Back again - Esther, Agatha, Clara, Cora or play it safe with Rose?

(56 Posts)
emmyloo2 Tue 30-Apr-13 08:16:27

Still no decision made about our DD due now in 3.5 weeks. Despite discussing for the last 9 months.

I now like Esther or Agatha (Aggie) and DH has said both can be possibilities although he is not particularly thrilled with either to be honest.

He also says he will consider Clara and Cora but finds them a little hard. I think I prefer Esther and Agatha to both.

He wants Rose or Isobel or Alison (which is a family name). I love Rose but it really is too popular for my liking and Isobel is definitely too popular. I really wanted Alison for a while as it is my late aunty's name but I can't shake the feeling it's not my style and is a little dated for me. I love the old-fashioned names, most of which have been rejected by DH..

I honestly don't know how we are going to resolve this. It's getting closer and closer and we are not getting any resolution.


DonkeysDontRideBicycles Tue 30-Apr-13 08:43:59

Hi again hope you're keeping well and calm in spite of all the name crunching.
I bet if your DD arrived tomorrow you and DH would agree on something in a heartbeat.

Just a suggestion what about Hester instead of Esther, or what about Dora instead of Cora?

I have heard Sally used as a nn for Alison btw but that doesn't sound the kind of style of name you're after.

We had a definite shortlist for my Rose when she was born, but it didn't include the name 'Rose'. As soon as we saw her it just seemed the right name for her, so maybe wait and see how you feel when she arrives.
Or you could call her Esther Rose and he can call her Rose and you can call her Esther! good luck with your decision

MyNameIsSuz Tue 30-Apr-13 08:53:58

What about a variation on Rose if you think it's too popular? Rosa, Rosalie, Rosemary etc? I think Rose is lovely.

emmyloo2 Tue 30-Apr-13 08:57:54

Thanks all. Donkeys - I prefer Esther to Hester I think and I love love love Dora. I don't think that will pass the gatekeeper though, although I will check. He is so conservative it drives me up the wall!

Suz - I have proposed all these but no go. I really also prefer just Rose to any of the longer versions. I do love Rose, I just think it might be a little safe for me....

He did the same thing for our son - he wanted Thomas and that was it. Again, I like Thomas but it's way too popular so I put my foot down and said no to Thomas. He came around to my DS's name which is George and of course now he thinks it's the best name in the world. See I just need him to see my taste is fabulous!!

mummybare Tue 30-Apr-13 09:01:13

I love Esther and Rose. Perhaps you could use Alison as a middle name if it has a family connection?

wiltingfast Tue 30-Apr-13 09:01:48

To be honest, Rose, Isobel and Alison are a lot nicer than Agatha, Esther, Clara and Cora.

You say Alison is dated but the names you have said you prefer are part of the current "old names" fad and could well seem a bit odd in years to come. (Agatha? Really? Instead of Rose?)

So go with what you genuinely like rather than what mn tells you to like!

mummybare Tue 30-Apr-13 09:04:26

Actually, I love Clara as well. Cora is a little too nicknamey for me (although I know it's a name in its own right, I do prefer Coralie or Coraline) and Agatha is a little 'granny chic' for my tastes, but altogether some great choices.

Good luck whatever you decide, OP.

wiltingfast Tue 30-Apr-13 09:04:31

There's also roisin (rosheen) and rosaleen just in case you haven't thought of those.

emmyloo2 Tue 30-Apr-13 09:05:02

Wiltingfast - you make a very good point. Very good.

See - it's like I have two arguments in my head at all times!


telsa Tue 30-Apr-13 09:05:29

I love Agatha. That is the name of my never to be DD!

thegreylady Tue 30-Apr-13 09:06:37

Rose is a beautiful name and I don't know any child with Rose as a first name-several with mn Rose though. If you like trad how about Dorothy nn Dora or even Dorothy Rose which sounds so pretty and gives options.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Tue 30-Apr-13 09:07:22

Not stalking you honestly OP but saw in another Baby Names thread you like Felix. Did you consider Felicity?

littlemonkey2013 Tue 30-Apr-13 09:13:52

I really like Clara. I think it's unusual but not so much it can be made fun of. Rose is also nice

AThingInYourLife Tue 30-Apr-13 09:15:18

Clara is my favourite of the names you've listed.

I agree with you about Rose.

FingersCrossedLegsNot Tue 30-Apr-13 10:21:48

Love Agatha

MummyBurrows Tue 30-Apr-13 12:04:23

I think Rose is more popular as a middle name or hyphenated first name like Lexi-Rose rather than a stand alone first name,I think if its a name you both like then go with it,its a beautiful name smile

Of the other names you listed I like Clara smile FWIW I know an Esther,she's 22 and absolutely hates her name because "its a shitty old ladies name"...she gets everyone to call her Esme (ez-mee) instead,much to the frustration of her parents...

everlong Tue 30-Apr-13 12:12:10

Clara isn't hard. I think it's very feminine. A lovely name. Also love Agatha.

lottiegarbanzo Tue 30-Apr-13 12:15:08

I really like Esther and Clara. Agatha is very 'old lady trendy'.

Esther is great, it's in that classic category of 'everyone's heard of it and can probably spell it but it's not widely used or linked to a particular point in time, social class or anything else'. I knew one nn Bess. I don't like Hester.

Clara has a nice sound and is one of the names that pops up in my head unexpectedly when I'm thinking about what names are nice, along with Cleo.

Alison is desparately dated and linked to babies of the 70s-80s, it will be quite a while before that's fashionable again. For now, it sounds as though you're naming her after a school friend.

I'd go for Esther Isobel or Clara Rose (or the other way around but I like how you repeat the S sound in one pair, R in the other).

Ham69 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:33:54

Clara and Esther are beautiful names.
I think Esther Alison is lovely.

diddl Tue 30-Apr-13 12:58:32

I like Isobel the best.


night1971 Tue 30-Apr-13 13:01:13

Agatha is much more interesting and goes v well with George.

Agatha Rose?

brackengirl Tue 30-Apr-13 15:21:14

I had an Esther Madeleine a week ago and love it (obviously!) Have had lots of good responses. Also have DD1 Rosanna so I think Esther Rose would be perfect!

ZolaBuddleia Tue 30-Apr-13 16:04:06

I love Esther and Cora. Honor? Coral/Coralie?

Leafmould Wed 01-May-13 08:09:52

Have I understood right? Is Rose your oh's only choice? That's a bit limited. I would be asking him for a list of 10 suggestions.

If he is being lukewarm about all your ideas, perhaps that choosing a name together website is what you need.

Gingerbreadlatte Wed 01-May-13 08:11:05

Esther. Love this but was vetoed by my oh.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 01-May-13 08:20:51

I guess if OP overruled her DH on Thomas last time he might feel it's his turn.

Okay just putting this out there:
You could look on giving a DD a popular name as, well, we love it, she deserves something attractive, she may not be the only one in her kindergarten or school class but she's the only Rose in your house... And there'll be people who are expecting babies after you who'll not use it because of its popularity. Besides, who's to know where she'll live in years to come, maybe a place where it wasn't well used locally. She may decide later she prefers a nn or second name whatever you pick!

Snazzynewyear Wed 01-May-13 08:26:00

I love Alison and think it's due a revival. If you both actually like it and there's a family connection, it has a lot going for it IMO.

Of the others I like Esther.

Kelly1992 Wed 01-May-13 09:07:31

Personally I love Clara, Rosalie or Coralie (Rose & Cora).

Rosalie Allison/Isobel or Coralie Allison/Isobel would be lovely.

or how about Cora Allison Rose or Esther Allison Rose or Clara Allison Rose.

Clara is my fave i'm not a fan of the others too old fashioned for my likeing but thats a personal opinion.

Kelly1992 Wed 01-May-13 09:13:42

Sorry just read through it and said you dont like Rosalie.

Rose Allison/Isobel is lovely though

irregularegular Wed 01-May-13 09:15:40

Does he like other, more unusual, flower names: lily, violet, viola, flora? I think he's being a bit unfair to only consider Rose. Or other old fashioned but softer names: Martha, Maisie, elspeth. My son was going to be Clara btw. Not keen on Alison for same reason as others.

OneLittleToddleTerror Wed 01-May-13 09:23:20

I know Clara isn't mentioned a lot on this board. But it's the new Dr Who companion. It might get really popular, like Amelia which is the companion of the last couple of years. Just keep this in mind if you are betting on an unusual name. (Since you are saying Rose might be too 'safe').

AgathaPinchBottom Wed 01-May-13 09:53:16

I love Agatha, Clara, Esther and Dora. That's my short list too! All are brilliant! My granny was an Esther but was always called Essie which is nice. Couple other options that I also like: Agnes, Flora, Cecily and Winifred (Freddy)

Gwennan Wed 01-May-13 10:17:24

I like all of your names with the exception of Agatha, which reminds me of the aunt in Matilda who was not nice at all. I am less keen on Cora as I've never met one and keep wanting to spell it 'corer'; I think knowing one would make me like it more.

I'd go for Rose, Clara or Esther - all are beautiful!

If you're not sure about Alison, how about Alice?

raisah Wed 01-May-13 19:14:04

How about Rosa, Rosalyn or Rosario as alternatives to Rose?
Or adding Rosa as a middle name to any one of your suggestions, which are lovely.

miffybun73 Wed 01-May-13 19:18:43

What about Isadora?

Allalonenow Wed 01-May-13 19:25:00

I'd vote for Clara, but as you have mentioned a family link with Alison, I think Alison Clara would be lovely. I really like a family history with a name, and Alison is so pretty and not at all dated.

StrangeGlue Wed 01-May-13 19:26:00

Is Rose that popular? I haven't met any babies called that yet.

Lots of Lillys and Violets but no roses

miffybun73 Wed 01-May-13 19:33:37

I think that Rose is very popular as a middle name, but I haven't met any babies with Rose as a first name.

I think it's lovely as a first name on its own, rather than used as it seems to be a lot - Lily-Rose, Ellie-Rose etc.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 01-May-13 20:09:25

Isadora, that's inspired miffybun73 smile

emmyloo2 Thu 02-May-13 03:40:08

Hi all, I am back!

Miffy - Isadora was something we actually contemplated but we decided we might feel a bit ridiculous calling it out in the supermarket. All names mentioned we have considered and I love most of them but none have seemed to be the "right" name or DH has rejected. I really like Clara, as does he, so that's now agreed to be on the list. Rose will stay as a safe option, together with Elizabeth, which we will use as a fail-safe option if we can't agree anything else. Agatha is off - we both decided it was a bit hard. Ditto Cora. Alison he still loves but I don't think it's the right name for me.

However, we have both decided we like Eleanor (which for whatever reason doesn't even crack the top 50 here) and Caroline (which I really like, although perhaps a little dated for some). Victoria, which was always a favourite has been taken off because we don't like the nicknames. Esther I still adore although DH not as common. I also propsoed Elsa as someone suggested, but we realised we know someone with a dog called Elsa.

So I feel like we are making slow progress. My gut feeling is we will go with something more classic and less "old lady" than I would prefer, but I don't want to choose a name he doesn't love. I.e. we may compromise with Eleanor as opposed to Mabel (which is my deep down love).

Actually - for whatever reason, DH decided he didn't mind Dora but preferred Doris? WTF?? Even I think Doris is a bit too vintage, but no he likes Doris. I still think Dora is fab. However, not sure if it can be pulled off in Australia. People would say..... Dooooraaaaah. (in australian twang).

TheRealFellatio Thu 02-May-13 03:50:42

Anything but Agatha PLEEEEEASE, it's dire. It's one of those names that should remain forever unressurected.

Tortoiseontheeggshell Thu 02-May-13 04:21:52

I think Rose is the most popular middle name going, by about a million miles, but I don't know any little Roses as a first name. That's no help, obviously, since I presume you've checked the actual baby name charts and know better than I do.

I love love love Clara. Clara and Eleanor are both great, although you will inevitably end up being the 1,365,748,239th parents to use Rose as a middle name with either of those, because it flows so well.

emmyloo2 Thu 02-May-13 04:48:05

TheReal - never fear, we have removed Agatha from the list!!

Tortoise - I would never use Rose as a middle name, purely because it is the most common middle name ever around here. Along with Grace. The middle name will be Catherine which is a family name.

Unless we went with Clara...not sure Clara Catherine works?

Eleanor Catherine is very nice though I think.

Now I am secretly loving Dora - I can only blame Donkeys for putting that in my mind!!

ripsishere Thu 02-May-13 04:49:40

Esther is a lovely name, so is Rose. The others are a bit not quite as nice.
Rosa is great so is Anna, Ellen and Julia.

sleepywombat Thu 02-May-13 05:06:57

I knew it was you when I saw the thread title!

Clara is my fave out of your new ones. Clara Catherine sounds nice, but I don't mind alliteration.

Eleanor is nice too.

emmyloo2 Thu 02-May-13 05:19:28

Sleepywombat - I am so mortified that I am still posting about this! I honestly thought about name changing just so people didn't think I was a complete nutcase. Can you imagine what my poor DH has had to endure!

Unfortunately overthinking things is part of my personality and I am really quite nervous and stressed about a second baby (I really found number 1 very hard) so I think focusing on the names, which is the most fun part) is a way of taking my mind off it!!

I am glad you like Clara and Eleanor though!

Only 3 more weeks of me posting though, so never fear! And there isn't going to be a third, so I will never had to go through this naming thing again!!

Tortoiseontheeggshell Thu 02-May-13 05:24:21

Eleanor Catherine is much better than Clara Catherine. Which is a shame, because Clara is fabulous, and Catherine's a great (ha, see what I did there?) middle name. I can't see Dora without thinking Explorer, sadly.

Also, you forgot "May/Mae" as a middle. Rose, Grace and May, the holy trinity of middle names in middle class Australia.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Thu 02-May-13 08:19:07

We don't mind exploring name options with you emmy for as long as it takes smile .

Purplebananas Thu 02-May-13 13:50:00

Any of the names except Agatha are ok. Agatha is horrible and grey sounding. Rose is a little boring. Clara is my favourite from your list.

emmyloo2 Fri 03-May-13 09:17:00

Thanks all. I should clarify that DH is not just proposing Rose. He is also happy with Isobel, Alison, Eleanor, Caroline, Elizabeth (as a fall back) and Victoria and various other names he has proposed (Vivienne, Nina, Laura, Ramona, Flora, Florence) which have been rejected by me. We just can't agree on a middle ground. I like old lady names and he likes names like Laura and Victoria - more classic names I guess, which I like, but find a little safe. He was actually pushing for Alison despite it being my aunty's name and nothing to do with him. He just decided that's the name he wanted.

I can't convince him to agree to Mary, Margaret, Ruth, Hazel, Mabel etc which are the types of names i love and I think match George. Hence we are going around in circles. He is not being difficult and has the patience of a saint, but we just can't seem to meet in the middle....

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 03-May-13 10:11:34

emmyloo have you tried writing one list of acceptable names each, and then find the ones that are common on both? It sounds like you two do have a bit of common ground. That way, you would eliminate the possible names down to those acceptable to both of you quickly.

(That's how we did ours. We ended up with a list of I think 1 girl name and 2 boy names)!

OneLittleToddleTerror Fri 03-May-13 10:12:36

You can even rank them and see the preferences better maybe?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Fri 03-May-13 11:35:58

Eleanor nn Ellie or Nell is that very popular where you are?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Fri 03-May-13 11:37:32

Did we ever suggest Lucie/Lucy?

emmyloo2 Fri 03-May-13 12:04:05

Hi toddler, yep we have tried this and we do have some on both list but they aren't my favorite ones so that's where I struggle. I think I am just going to have to compromise.

Donkeys - Lucy is good but two friends have Lucys. Eleanor isn't even in the top 100 here. I like it a lot but it's a little long. I love Nell though. I have realized I like the one- two syllable names. Ruth, hazel, Maude, Mabel, Meg etc, none of which pass the gatekeeper. Boo!

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