A few boys name questions

(52 Posts)
Cordial Thu 21-Mar-13 21:54:59

So if I say the name Fred what name do you think it is short for or is it a boys name in its own right?

Second question we are fond of the name Horace. Does anybody know any???

KD0706 Thu 21-Mar-13 22:17:29

If I was asked I'd think Fred was short for Alfred. But can definitely be used on its own.

Sorry don't know anybody called Horace.

wedontplaywithelectrics Thu 21-Mar-13 22:17:57

Fred, I would presume short for Frederick,possibly Alfred.
Never met a Horace but love it!

mayanna123 Thu 21-Mar-13 22:32:02

Fred - nickname for Frederick.

Horace is a great name - underused classic, much more interesting than Fred imo!

mayanna123 Thu 21-Mar-13 22:32:36

All the Alfreds tend to be know as Alfie round here.

Cordial Thu 21-Mar-13 22:45:28

I had thought Frederick and then a friend pointed out the Alfred connection but I wasn't sure how commonly used that was. I only meet Alfies!

Interesting to see some love for Horace , I love it but worry that it is a bit out there / is a name that gets you teased? The few real life people I've mentioned it to look at me like I'm insane! Maybe I'm worried about being teasedwink

olivertheoctopus Thu 21-Mar-13 22:46:19

Frederick or maybe Alfred at a push. Horace is very cool!

anonymosity Thu 21-Mar-13 23:27:45

i know a 5 yr old boy called Freddie. Very cute, cherub.
I know no children named Horace only the Latin writer (he was Latin, wasn't he?)

PurpleStorm Fri 22-Mar-13 00:05:48

Fred - Frederick. I wouldn't think Alfred - they tend to be Alfie for short.

Never met any Horaces. (and yes, Horace was a Roman poet)

raisah Fri 22-Mar-13 02:01:34

short for Alfred & Frederick
Put the full version on bc & call him Fred everyday.

Hedwig3 Fri 22-Mar-13 17:01:14

Love Horace
I had a great uncle called Horace.

I was quite a few years old when I realised his name wasn't Orris! [Blush]

Cordial Fri 22-Mar-13 18:34:45

So where are all the Horace haters I meet in real life smile

Oh Horace is lovely.

I like Fred as nn for Wilfred or Frederick but I hate Freddie.

You might like Hector / Howard / Terence too.

KD0706 Fri 22-Mar-13 19:38:40

I don't personally like Horace. I didn't mention that fact earlier as you didn't ask for opinion on whether it was a nice name, just asked if anybody knew a Horace smile

But honestly if you like the name then go for it. Now I think of it I know a baby Hariss (not sure if I've spelled that correctly it looks odd written down). Harris maybe... That's kind of similar.

alemci Fri 22-Mar-13 19:55:06

remember Diary of Horace wimp. Not keen on Horace. Think there was a cartoon strip about a Horace too in Jackie magazine or that may have been Leonard. (really showing my age).

Cordial Fri 22-Mar-13 23:00:03

KD how restrained of you most un- mnet like! Thanks for the feedback. We have got Hector on the list.

So given we like


Anybody got any other suggestions or opinions?

Froblawd Fri 22-Mar-13 23:02:22

I teach a Fred and a Freddie, both short for Alfred. I also teach a Horace, a lovely young man. Brilliant names.

Froblawd Fri 22-Mar-13 23:03:49

Herbie? Short for Herbert?

KD0706 Fri 22-Mar-13 23:26:11

I know! I'm not convinced I really belong here. Not nearly blunt enough. grin

I like hector a lot.
Fred / Frederick I like well enough too, but hector us definitely my favourite.

Do you already have any DCs - maybe worth thinking how the name will fit with the others if so?

simplesusan Fri 22-Mar-13 23:33:02

I would say Frederick.
Done know any Horaces.

JollyYellowGiant Fri 22-Mar-13 23:36:03

Isn't there a Horace in the Broons?

Sadly Fred reminds me of Fred West.

sjupes Sat 23-Mar-13 00:06:28

Fredrick was my first thought.

My mum names all spiders freddie. Put me off the name sad

Don't know any horaces but hungry horace is a frequently used saying where i live.

PurpleStorm Sat 23-Mar-13 10:00:53

Well, I said earlier that I didn't know any Horaces.

I popped into the corner shop yesterday, and a mum in there was shouting for her little boy (looked about 4 or 5) called Horace. He didn't want to go away from the sweetie shelves.

Only Horace I've come across though.

I don't like Hector because of the meaning of it as a word.

Lionsntigersnbears Sat 23-Mar-13 12:03:15

You could have Wilfred,nn Fred ...?

WormCanner Sat 23-Mar-13 12:56:05

The problem with Horace is that it starts like horrible and horrid.

TheSecondComing Sat 23-Mar-13 13:00:10

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FranKatzenjammer Sat 23-Mar-13 13:08:45

It reminds me of the 80s computer game Hungry Horace and its sequels Horace Goes Skiing and Horace & the Spiders. This is not necessarily a bad thing, however.

scrumpkin Sat 23-Mar-13 13:11:35

I think Fred is fine on its own. A really lovely name.

Horace just makes me think "horse" sad sorrythanks

fussychica Sat 23-Mar-13 16:30:48

Horace - please don't do it.

BikeRunSki Sat 23-Mar-13 16:36:02

The Frederick I know is called Rick.
The Wilfred I know is called Bill.
The Freddie I know is a nn for Fred.
The Alfies I know or either just Alfie or Alfonso.

I like Frederick as a name, it would have been DD's name if she had been another DS.

lljkk Sat 23-Mar-13 18:22:51

Fred is a name in its own right.
I love Alfred; I worked with a lovely Fred (Alfred in full). Don't like Alfie, though and DH wouldn't like any of them. Frederick is ok.

Don't like Hector At.All.

I can think of a few cool Horaces though (eg. Miami CSI?). I like other names better, but I wouldn't cringe to hear it on a child.

Local painter-decorator called Horace Horis, how could you forget a name like that?

Bibs123 Sat 23-Mar-13 20:09:18

truly cruel... horace... really?

chesticles Sat 23-Mar-13 20:40:24

Had a great uncle Horace, who died last year at the age of 92. He was a lovely old man. However, despite him being a lovely man, I wouldn't call a child Horace. It's just not to my taste. His brothers were Walter, Wilfred, George. All of which have a similar feel in my opinion.

mayanna123 Sat 23-Mar-13 21:26:15

Hector has a very unfortunate meaning (to hector = to bully, to torment) and would you shorten to Heck?

I love Horace and think it is cool and masculine!

anonymosity Sun 24-Mar-13 01:04:01

Hector does not mean "to hector" - its a Greek name which means "to hold, to possess"

Homebird8 Sun 24-Mar-13 01:17:30

My DM had an imaginary son called Little Horace. He was perpetually 6 years old and perfect in every way. Very hard for DSis and me to live up to. However, I do still have a soft spot for the name and the little brother I never had. I still write his name in the sand on the beach like DM used to.

All this rambling gives no opinion on the name. Don't even know where DM chose it from. No family of that name as far as I know.

FuriousRox Sun 24-Mar-13 01:31:42

Horace - no, please. It's just a bit silly! Sorry.

Fred - short for Frederick in my book.

Snazzynewyear Sun 24-Mar-13 01:34:48

Hedwig - snap! I also had an elderly uncle Horace, who I genuinely thought for years was called Orris.

Fred = Frederick for me

Cordial Sun 24-Mar-13 10:03:59

Horace is a very marmite sort of name I see. I don't see how such an ancient name can be silly but I more worry about him being picked on at school and/or taking offence if people so actively don't like the name.

Cordial Sun 24-Mar-13 10:07:52

homebird how funny re your DM I could see my DH go the same way, getting him to think of non- Horace names is a battle . So much do I thought it might be easier if baby is a girl!! I think we need a longer short list and then a good look at dc to make up our minds!

mayanna123 Sun 24-Mar-13 10:10:22

To hector means to torment, to bully.

In terms of bullying potential lots of more widespread names are much more likely to be teased - e.g. Will -Willy or Benedict - Bendy Dick or Gabriel - Gayboy. And I can't see anything teaseworthy about Horace. I think it's a strong sounding cool name!

PurpleStorm Sun 24-Mar-13 11:46:45

mayanna's correct about the meaning of "to hector" when it's used as a verb. It's right there in the dictionary.

Hector as a Greek name may well have a more positive meaning, but IMO that doesn't outweigh the meaning of hector as a word.

The name Hector means to anchor/hold fast - it's nice.

anonymosity Sun 24-Mar-13 15:02:55

Yes, the meaning of "to hector" is correct, but that's not the meaning of the name Hector. Two different things.

TomDudgeon Sun 24-Mar-13 15:25:03

First thought Frederick
Possibly Wilfred, Alfred etc

Never met a Horace though my mums Tortoise was called it

WormCanner Sun 24-Mar-13 17:57:23

Doesn't make any difference if the name means something different - it's still the same word insofar as it's the same letters in the same order.

To those who think it does make a difference - would you name your child Gay?

PurpleStorm Sun 24-Mar-13 18:35:02

I know an adult Gay.

She's old enough to have been born when gay still meant happy and carefree and nothing else at all - but I did still have a confused hmm [must keep a straight face] moment when I first met her and learnt her name.

But back to Hector - I fully agree with WormCanner's point about it not making a difference whether the name and the word mean different things. People will be far more familiar with the meaning of the word than the meaning of the name.

But most children won't be familiar with the verb, 'To hector' so it's hardly going to be a potential bullying issue.

KittenOfDoom Sun 24-Mar-13 20:36:46

It's not just about children though. I think of the unpleasant meaning first whenever I hear the name - and I had a classical education!

anonymosity Sun 24-Mar-13 20:41:06

Wormcanner I'm afraid it does make a lot of difference, to many people. I have a friend whose Dad is called Hector and it never occurred to me to think that he is hectoring as a personality, or to relate it to the other term, because that well, would just be a bit stupid grin.

mayanna123 Sun 24-Mar-13 22:22:49

It may not be a bullying issue but why give your child a name that has an unfortunate meaning (depending on what newspapers you read the verb hector or hectoring is used fairly frequently) if there are so many names with lovely or no meanings. Isn't that the whole point of these threads, that people like the op can ask for opinions on potential names?

nooka Sun 24-Mar-13 22:36:22

dh wanted to use Hector for our prospective ds (historian and classicist), but although I love the hero (despite him coming to a very sad end) I think it's a harsh name with no nickname possibilities.

I'm afraid that I think Horace whilst cool in principle is not at all a good name in practice. Better I think for a pet. Plus for me Horace is very definitely a bear (and one that eats his whole family, so not really a very nice bear!)

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