Savanna & Harvey....thoughts

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MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:06:51

I am only in my firat trimester but me and my OH already have some favourites names wise. I wondered what other people thought though.

For a girl we are pretty much settled on Savanna Brooke, its unusual and so I'm worried our parents wont like it, but it is a name which means something to us and reflects my OHs history so we are very keen on it.

For a boy we like Harvey Sebastian but I dont like Harv for short which is tricky....we also quite like Ryley and Dexter as first names so this one is less decided.

Any thoughts would be welcome. grin

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 20:09:22

Savannah should have an 'h' at the end imo

Harvey is much better than Ryley (?) or Dexter.

ladymia Mon 11-Mar-13 20:11:03

It's Savanna(h) and R(i)ley?

WickWackThurso Mon 11-Mar-13 20:15:24

Well, you like them, and they have meaning for you, so I am loathe to be honest....

Since you ask -

Savanna - really don't like, have always disliked with no good reason. Bit harsh sounding. Anna or Susanna are beautiful though.

Brooke - again, never been keen, a bit dated now I think. Can sound very different depending on regional accents.

Harvey - I like but wouldn' t use it now due to the Jordan connection.

Sebastian - I know several Sebs, so it's on the rise, but all lovely little boys, nn Seb.

Ryley - v now, faddy, dislike.

Dexter - seriel killer, cool but hard to carry off.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:32:15

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JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 11-Mar-13 20:36:38

The thing is, if you spell it an unusual way, the kid will be saddled with a mis-spelled name for he rest of their life. It will be annoying for them (and you).

Those other examples don't come from a real thing, ISYWIM. Savannah is a geographical feature, and that is how it is spelled. IMO.

I prefer Brooke Savannah

JamieandtheMagicTorch Mon 11-Mar-13 20:38:31

I don't really like your boys names, but wonder of you'd like:


notso Mon 11-Mar-13 20:42:04

Savanna is ok, prefer the proper spelling. I think the opposite to you it sounds softer with rather than without, but that could be the accent round here has a very hard 'a' sound.
I think Savanna(h) Brooke sounds a bit like a place or a paint colour, Brooke isn't to my taste.

I hate Harvey and Riley/Ryley. I like Dexter and love Sebastian.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:47:05

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MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:47:54

We also had Cooper on the boy list for a while. hmm

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 20:52:03

Of course you can spell it however you like, you can call your child Roger and spell it Saucepan if you want.

But if you post asking for opinions on a public forum, expect people to pint out that you are spelling it wrong grin

TheSecondComing Mon 11-Mar-13 20:55:11

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everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 20:57:19

Dexter is nice.

What about Susannah?

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:57:39

yeah I asked what people thought of the names, I didnt ask whether people liked my spelling!!!

bamboostalks Mon 11-Mar-13 20:58:11

The spelling of both Ryley and Savanna are incorrect and just make it tough work for future dc who will be forever correcting people. I think these individual spelling are just daft tbh. Catherine v Katherine fine. Savanna is not a similar alternative but a geographical feature.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 20:58:16

greensleeves not exactly constructive!

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 20:59:23

That goes with the name territory OP. Names and how you spell them wink

Looby12 Mon 11-Mar-13 21:00:39

I like Savanna And Harvey, go with your gut as its your child and you need to feel comfortable saying the name. I personally didn't decide until after giving birth, I had a short list and chose after seeing the baby and testing out using the names in relation to her. I wouldn't pay attention to the spelling debate smile

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:01:29

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MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:02:16

Thanks looby grin finally a sensible person! I could hug you!!!!! grin

toobreathless Mon 11-Mar-13 21:02:44

Strongly dislike Savanna. Also don't think it's that unusual. Also don't really like Brooke in combination as a second name. Think Savanna/h is so strong it goes better with a more 'girlie' middle name:
Savanna Rose
Savanna Grace
Savanna Joy
Savanna Faith
Savanna Elizabeth

Brooke Savanna is nicer IMO.

Harvey & Dexter are not to my taste but nice enough and perfectly good names. Agree with you that 'Harv' is not a good shortening. Do not like Ryley, dare I say it very 'chavvy' but love Sebastian. Little mermaid did not occur to me

Harrison/Harry: great, but agree very popular.
Henry: love this but as per Harry.
Cooper: bit American but strong and I quite like it.

Names that seem to fit your criteria:



What do you think?

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 21:02:59

Oh ffs.

What is wrong with people.

You asked a question. On an open forum.

You are not always going to get the answers you want.

The thing is, a major part of the name IS the spelling, so you cannot expect people to say that they love it if they don't like the way it is spelled!!

Fwiw I think Savanna looks odd and like the name of some foreign car / vanette / pickup truck. And Savannah is horrible too.

Riley is ok (ish)
Ryley looks like you don't know how to spell and is therefore awful.

Also, your dc will have to introduce themselves as "Savanna-without-an-h" and "Ryley-with-a-y".

Don't do it to them, it will be annoying for them and they won't thank you for it.

Also, it does not make you look unique, it makes you look daft.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:03:17

Not if I explained over and over again that the spelling isnt an issue ever sad

Love love love Sebastian though!

nenevomito Mon 11-Mar-13 21:03:50

DS's class is full of Harveys and Rileys, I like both. I don't get why you're so keen to change the spellings of Riley or Savannah. Misspelling doesn't make a name more individual, just strange.

SanityClause Mon 11-Mar-13 21:04:05

Seriously, OP, I have an ordinary name with an unusual spelling.

Bane of my life.

But the spelling will be an issue. Maybe not to you, but for your dc, on official forms, on name tags, it will be an issue.

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:04:24

Savanna without the H is fine but it's a brand of cider.

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:05:25

I like Cooper too

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:06:06

LOL at OP stomping about going "spelling is not up for discussion" and "thread closed"

that's not really how it works I'm afraid grin

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 21:06:09

I think people were trying to be diplomatic re the spelling. In other words they probably didn't like the names you've chosen, but if you are going to have them, spell them correctly.
That's all.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:06:28

yeah ken I know, and Harvey is a beer lol.......we are not drunks honest. grin

belfastbigmillie Mon 11-Mar-13 21:06:33

so... you have asked if people like them - they didn't and now you have gone into a strop smile Have to say, I don't like them either. They sound chavvy to me.

ladymia Mon 11-Mar-13 21:07:58

I am just saying, everyone else will also assume you have spelled it incorrectly and they will have to correct people all their lives. Sorry if you think it's not an issue, it is.

CheeseStrawWars Mon 11-Mar-13 21:09:45

Savanna (no h) is a brand of cider.

CheeseStrawWars Mon 11-Mar-13 21:10:30

oh, x-post

Llareggub Mon 11-Mar-13 21:10:45

Really not my cup of tea at all. Variety is good though. We can't all like the same names.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:11:08

greensleeves my issue is that you went on a rampage about spelling even though I said on more than one occasion that it wasnt thoughts on the spelling I was asking for. You ignored that and I found your imput unkind, unfriendly and unrequired....sorry if you are used to belittling people but that is not how I work so I found it hurtful.

I started the thread asking for friendly imput I didnt realise that would open me up to unkind comments, an I think I can make requests on my own thread without you being unkind again.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:12:49

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Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:14:19

guffaw at "went on a rampage"

Look love, if you want to give your kids awful misspelt names that's your lookout

but if you post on MN asking what people think of the names, and what people think is "you've spelt it wrong", then that is what they will post. And it might be worth you taking notice, because it is going to keep happening.

Viviennemary Mon 11-Mar-13 21:14:29

I don't like Harvey very much at all. Savanna is quite nice I suppose if you like that sort of name.

nectarini1983 Mon 11-Mar-13 21:15:50

Love Savanna Brooke. .....its one of my younger cousins names!! Shes 19 and gorgeous!

Not sure on Sebastian as dont like nn Seb...and will always think of the crab from The Little Mermaid.

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 21:16:15

OP don't get stressed.

MN is friendly, but people are honest, sometimes very honest about stuff, especially baby names.

If you ask ' I wonder what other people think ' type thing, people will tell you. Honestly.

But like you said, it's your baby and you can call it what you like wink

Glaikit Mon 11-Mar-13 21:16:34

Savanna makes me think of a character fro Dallas or dynasty all big shoulder pads and hair.

Harvey is ok, not my taste but I think we have completely different tastes

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:16:45

I think OP there are lots of us here who have unusually spelled names - mine is an unusual form of a Gaelic name . So my name is ALWAYS spelled wrong by people , it's a nightmare hence why you will get comments.
Your baby your name!

ladymia Mon 11-Mar-13 21:16:54

ok apart from the misspelling (which is not up for discussion) i believe the names are absolutely dreadful ... sorry

Savanna(h) is pretty popular now, so if you're keen to have something unusual maybe it's not the one?

Dexter is better than Ryley, imo

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:19:05

gaffaw away green, kind of proves my point. Its obviously your way or the highway then, sorry I didnt realise.

Well my opinon is that you are being unkind, unfriendly and that you continue being so when I have made my feelings clear. Perhaps that says more about you than me? Sorry that my thoughts re my childs name makes you gaffaw....charming. Just glad I dont mix in those kind of circles normally. I try to live to the 'treat people as you would like to be treated' mantra and assume wrongly that others do the same. My bad.

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 21:20:51

Try Nethuns then, they'll tell you what you want to hear I reckon.

MustafaCake Mon 11-Mar-13 21:21:26

Savanna, Brooke and Harvey not my taste at all I'm afraid. Sebastian is nice though.

And like sanity I have an unusually spelled version of a fairly normal name, It is the bane of my bloody life and I have to spell it out and correct people ALL THE TIME!!!

And like it or not people will judge. Many people have said to me "oh you are nothing like I expected an "X" to be".

MotherofCleo, can you really not see that the spelling is what makes (or breaks) a name?

Names are not just said and heard, they are written and read too.

AndFanjoWasHisNameO Mon 11-Mar-13 21:21:37

Used to love Harvey but then one of my friends went and named her puppy this! angry Total doggy name for me now...
Really like Savannah, sorry but I agree that it needs an H, it's an actual place so I would liken it to calling my baby Mancheste iyswim?
Do you like the nicknames that these names may generate and then teasing names -eg Chavvy Savvy etc? I'm obsessed with checking things like that wink.
Also really love Brooke btw. You'll change your mind 9 million times before you have your baby anyway smile

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:22:10

ken I appreciate the imput, my own name is spelt an old fashioned way and I have to spell it for everyone plus I work with 2 people with very unusual names so I guess I'm just used to it. Food for thought though.

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:22:48

If you read back you'll see that it was the phrase "went on a rampage" that I was gaffawing at

but maybe in future, avoid asking for opinions if you don't actually want them.

abbyfromoz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:23:22

Savannah yey
Harvey neh
Sebastian yey
Brooke- not a fan but if it has meaning then sure
Dexter- hmmmm not sure... I think i like it.

But MotherOfCleo, did you just want everyone to say 'yes, they are great names, go for it!'

Why did you ask the question?

duck94 Mon 11-Mar-13 21:25:32

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KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:25:53

I have just given up and accept incorrect spellings grin

duck94 Mon 11-Mar-13 21:26:24

So is Harvey, I'm afraid.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:26:50

fango I have the same thing, a friend called their son Finley and I know 2 dogs called by that name so now he sounds like a dog.

I've never had an issue spelling my name as I like how its spelt, plus I always have to spell my surname anyway so it doesnt make much difference.

I dont mind opinions I just didnt like the ganging up re spelling. Thought rightly that it was unrequired. Who am I to tell my friend for example that Finley should be Finlay or Finnley? Or that her daughter should be Molly not Mollie. Not my call really.

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:26:56

yes duck94, but Savanna and Ryley are yooneek innit

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:27:06

Ahem, Savanna is as correct as Savannah according to wiki here

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:27:31

I'm raising an eyebrow here it has to be said. I'm assuming you've not read many of the baby naming threads before?

The spelling of a name is a massive factor as to whether people like it or not. The silly spellings (not saying yours are in particular) do tend to bring out strong opinions and after all it was opinions that you were fielding.

It doesn't quite work that you ask a question, get the hump with a slight musing on behalf of posters and then tell us to bugger orf grin!

Shr0edinger Mon 11-Mar-13 21:28:29

/awful, and worse for being paired together. If you changed it to Susannah and Harvey it wouldn't be so bad. Susannah and Charlie has the same ring.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:29:25

Yes but the mothers' of Molly/Mollie and Finley/Finlay/Finnley aren't on here asking for opinions are they?!

curiousgeorgie Mon 11-Mar-13 21:29:45

Savannah is totally lovely... But looks chavtastic and a bit try hard without the H...

Sebastian is brilliant and was on our list for DC2 before we found out it was another girl.

The thing is, motherofcleo, you asked if people liked the name. And they rightly told you that yes, but only if spelled correctly.

For instance, I love Sebastian. I would hate Sabestion! Likewise, I quite like Riley, but hate Ryley. I love Finley. But do not like Fynley or Finnley or any variation thereof.
So as you can see, even though they sound the same, it is possible to like one version and not another. Which is why people were telling you that spelling did matter!

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:30:28

Btw I do actually like Savanna(h) but it sure as heck isn't unusual these days.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 21:31:53

no ploppy I wanted thoughts, other suggestions, friendly chat etc like everyone else gets on their names threads not a lesson attack re spelling. I dont mind if people dont like them, fair dos, no worries, its personal choice, my issue is that my original post got totally lost in something off topic.

Some people said 'I dont like savanna but I do like......' thats constructive imo. Have I taken issue with anyone saying th dont like them? No! That is what I expected tbh.

TheSecondComing Mon 11-Mar-13 21:31:59

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Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:33:19

MotherOfCleo, the spelling issue comes up all the time on this topic. People aren't being unfriendly they are offering their opinion which is what a forum full of questions is normally all about.

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:33:25

I prefer gaffaw actually

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:33:26

[arf] at "thread closed" grin

For goodness' sake, you can't say "what do you think" and then tell people they can't comment. That's just silly.

All the examples you give of different spellings are different for a reason - for example Robin (boy) Robyn (girl). Lyndsey (boy) Lynsey (wrong) and Lyndsay (girl).

If you spell it Savanna, she well spend her entire life saying my name is Savanna-without-an-aitch.

And Ryley will constantly be saying "my name is Ryley-with-a-y-no-not-a-y-at-the-end-a-y-in-the-middle-and-an-ey-at-the-end".

Honestly, they will.

If you like the spellings, that's fine, but don't think they won't have to explain them every single time.

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:33:52

You need to rephrase your op.

Instead of "any thoughts welcome" you should say "come and tell me you like these names".

toobreathless Mon 11-Mar-13 21:34:03

Personally the unusual spelling would make md inwardly roll my eyes but if you like it go for it. And as you say you have a more unusual spelling so will have an idea what it will be like for your child.

The thing about Mollie/Molly and Finley/Finlay is that I feel that they are accepted variants like Jayne/Jane, Katherine/Catherine/Kathryn whereas Savanna just feels a bit wacky rather than an accepted variant? Correct me if I'm wrong.

And as an aside, I love the name Cleo (and the spelling wink) and I just adore your dog!! Gorgeous!

CheeseStrawWars Mon 11-Mar-13 21:36:37

KenDodd Wikipedia also says that Savannah is a given name but does not recognise Savanna as such. But I could pop onto Wikipedia to update it and change all that right now if I felt like it...

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:36:41

This might help explain here

everlong Mon 11-Mar-13 21:37:03

Cleo is gorgeous. ( name and hound )

Shame you could have had it for your baby.

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:38:35

I didn't read it properly - just googled Savanna. Ok going to update it. Ken Dodd's Wikipedia has a certain ring to it grin

nenevomito Mon 11-Mar-13 21:40:02
CheeseStrawWars Mon 11-Mar-13 21:41:35

No, no That is all. wink

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:41:52

KenDodd, if you google Clowey or Pheobe you get that they are variants of Cloe (with two dots that I can't type) and Phoebe. MrGoogle says they exist, so they must be ok wink

KenDoddsDadsDog Mon 11-Mar-13 21:44:36

Well yes who wouldn't want to be Clowey.
I'm off for a choona sandwich and some mylk.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 21:45:21

choona grin!

NandH Mon 11-Mar-13 21:46:02

I have a 5 week old Harvey smile love the name....obviously ;)

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:48:10

NandH, you should have spelled it Harvy, just to be different grin

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:48:24

Sorry op blush, that was a bit mean.

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:48:48


OliviaMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 11-Mar-13 21:48:58

Evening all
Does anyone need a lovely link to the guidelines??

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 21:51:00

well she started it

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:51:09

We are being very nice Olivia.

Has the op reported us for doing as she asked, i.e. giving her our thoughts?


Are we only allowed to say "those names are luffly hun"?

CheeseStrawWars Mon 11-Mar-13 21:51:41

Sav or Savvy would bother me as a nickname, regardless of spelling of longer version tbh. They sound a bit too close to Chav or Chavvy for playground nickname potential.

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 21:52:14

And she called us unkind and unfriendly <cries>

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 21:59:42

Surely it is better to raise your child to be memorable in their own right rather than saddling them with a name that will be forever misspelt?

Ds has a very very common name - always in the top three of boys names (albeit he has always been the only boy in his year with his name). What makes him stand out and memorable is his personality, not his name.

Shr0edinger Mon 11-Mar-13 22:00:26

I only read the OP. Are the children already named?

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 22:01:20

Maryz I'd like to politely point out to you that you are spelling your name incorrectly. Surely it should be MaryeeZee? grin

My thoughts are that I don't like either sort of Savanna(h), the 'v' is a bit harsh, and actually I am just weeing against this lamppost whilst I wait for the thread delete notice smile

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 22:10:26

Acksherly (spellt corectley) my name is MaireeZed, I just spell it the other way so I can remain annonnymouse.


Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 22:10:35

I quite like Savannah, by the way. But it's just silly to mis-spell something because you are stubborn [baffled]

Viviennemary Mon 11-Mar-13 22:11:08

Surely the whole point of asking people's opinion on a name is that they will say what they think. And it will only be what some people will think but not say in real life. So surely it's a good thing that people are honest.

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 22:11:56

Don't be silly Viviennemary wink

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 22:14:23

Sorry MarieeZed you are of course correct with your English spelling. I was mistaken in spelling it the trailer trash American way grin

DumSpiroSpero Mon 11-Mar-13 22:17:53

I like Savanna - I personally would spell it with an 'h' but I don't think it's a major catastrophe to spell it without.

Brooke - is ok, not my cup of tea and for personal reasons I wouldn't use it even if I did like it.

I think the combo works though and it's nice it has meaning for you and DH.

Boys - I like Dexter & Cooper, Harvey is ok but not very unusual if that's what you're after. Don't like Riley/Ryley regardless of spelling but thing it looks daft with 2 y's tbh.

Eglantyne Mon 11-Mar-13 22:30:21

OP, if you go to Mumsnet spelt N.e.t.m.u.m.s. you will get the answers you wanted.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 22:36:23

well arent you all having fun at my expense, all feel big and clever do you? Proud of yourselves? Hope so, because otherwise why exactly are you here? Was there a reason or just to be bitchy?

SanityClause Mon 11-Mar-13 22:39:46

Sorry, Cleo, your OP says "Any thoughts would be welcome."

Was that not what you meant, then? confused

Shr0edinger Mon 11-Mar-13 22:40:57

I only read your OP. I didn't realise I was like the 100th person to say something negative. Sorry. I do know how upsetting a pile on thread can be.

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 22:41:32

Naming your child is one of the most important things you will ever do in your life. Get it wrong and you burden your offspring forever. Maybe you have a name that has to be spelt out every single time you say it and the times you don't it is misspelt? Personally that would be too much for me. Savannah is a lovely name, Savanna is not. As I posted earlier, giving your child a unique name isn't necessary to make them stand out.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 22:42:34

Well my 'thoughts' on you guys arent exactly what I would like to put in black and white. Sorry, should I have put any constructive thoughts which dont come as a vaguely disguised bad. Didn't realise school ground bullies were on this site, bad.

KobayashiMaru Mon 11-Mar-13 22:45:23

you're right, it is unusual. Because you have spelled it wrong.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 22:53:12

I can't believe that you think people are bitching just because they are giving you their honest opinion confused.

Go ahead and call your children Savanna and Harveee if you wish no -one really cares you know, but maybe it is a lesson in not asking for opinions if you don't really want them hmm?

There is a big difference between bitching and just being brutally honest you know.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 22:56:50

read back paxi so few comments are name related most call me either a chav or suggest I cant spell. Those arent opinions they are bitchy comments aimed to hurt or get a reaction. Eg, Harvee, that was designed to be bitchy!

If you are used to being spoken to as people on here have spoken to me then I feel sorry for you.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 22:57:47

thanks shr0 and bisjo finally something constructive smile

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 22:59:06

If you are keen to name your dd with a very unusual spelling then you will have to put up with a lot more comments than this group of random strangers on an internet forum. You either need to be man enough to face the criticism head on without getting snippy or choose a different name/spelling.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 22:59:08

and thanks dum we werent really after unusual but it just happened that way as we both liked a certain girls name which I dont even want to write now.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:00:07

maryz its not misspelling.....geez, it has 2 spellings and its personal choice.

KobayashiMaru Mon 11-Mar-13 23:00:15

It's not bitchy to suggest you can't spell when you actually can't spell.

SanityClause Mon 11-Mar-13 23:00:47

I don't even think people have been brutal in their honesty, Cotapaxi. I do think the OP is being over sensitive, though.

Just a suggestion, OP, don't call your DD Savanna or your DS Ryley, as it may really upset you when they are born, and you have to put up with all the "Oh someone's spelt her/his name wrongly, here!" comments. (I have had this for 44 years, including people telling me that Ihave spelled my name wrongly.)

Incidentally, when I was pregnant, I used to get really angry about random stuff, and after I had the baby, I was eye rolling at how my pregnant self could have been so indignant about nothing much at all. blush

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 23:01:48

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Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:02:28

I didn't call you a chav.

I didn't say you couldn't spell. I said you had spelled the name Savannah wrong, which you have.

I was very nice in explaining why you should think before naming your child something which they will have to spell out every time they identify themselves.

Obviously, though, you don't want opinions. I'm not sure still why you asked for them [baffled]

And, as far as I can see the only person on this thread who has called other people names is you. Which isn't very nice, when everyone else is trying to be helpful by giving you honest opinions. And those opinions are what people in real life will be thinking if you use the name Savanna. They may not say it, but they will be thinking it [helpful]

difficultpickle Mon 11-Mar-13 23:02:53

This is interesting. Basically confirms that Savanna is a misspelling of Savannah.

OP why do you want to spell it without the usual 'h'?

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:03:16

x-posted - it doesn't have two correct spellings. It has one correct spelling, and one wrong one.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:06:59

Ok I was pulling your leg a bit with Harvee but honestly you did kind of bring it on yourself with all the 'stop this thread' lark etc.

Didn't you say that your family gave you hell when you named your other child Harlowe? Well would it be churlish to point out that most posters here have been quite polite and second time around you should be a bit more prepared for some honest opinions if you choose a name that is a bit more 'out there'.

Call the baby Charles or Lucy and all will be well smile.

You do need to lighten up a bit <runs>

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:07:18

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Greensleeves Mon 11-Mar-13 23:09:19

"we should know we have history in Africa"


Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:10:29

You are beginning to sound a tad unhinged now. If you come on a massive forum with millions of readers did you seriously expect everyone to just say yes name is fab - next...

btw I don't hate your choices and many others don't - most people are just saying fgs spell it properly.

That link I attached earlier had a similar heated debate over the spelling of Georgie (perfectly acceptable) and the rather more contentious Jorgie. You see it is all in the spelling.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:10:43

cota hum you may be confused this is my first child! Harlowe.....huh. Perhaps thats another woman your slating not me?!?

I've asked for the thread to be deleted as I dont think its constructive.

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:11:03

No-one has slagged you off confused. You have called people unkind and unfriendly, accused them of ganging up and being bitchy. This isn't very nice.

And no-one (I don't think) has said they hate your choices. Quite a few have said they like the name Savannah, but have suggested you spell it correctly.

Can't you take that as a constructive suggestion?

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Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:13:03

ps there is another thread running about a person considering (a year or so ago) calling her daughter Lushe. It was annihilated as a name but the OP was very gracious in accepting the opinions and called her daughter a different much nicer name. She took on board the suggestions which I suspect is a better way of reacting tbh.

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Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:15:03

Oh don't call me hun for gods sake. Sorry I have mistaken you with the gracious poster who was suggesting using Lushe as a name as her other daughter was called Harlowe. She was far more accepting of people's views than you have been this evening it has to be said.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:15:31

Greensleeves grin!

LazyMonkeyButler Mon 11-Mar-13 23:16:38

Ignoring all of the previous comments grin, I was just going to say that Savanna(h) is a lovely name IMHO, but not at all unusual. Not in this area anyway, it seems as though every other baby girl here at the moment is either a Savannah or a Sienna.

If you want the name because you love it then great - I love it too. But if you want it because it's unusual then it isn't really that anymore, it may have become more popular than you realise. Brooke I've never been keen on but the two names do flow well.

Harvey or Dexter are nice - much better than Ryley in my opinion. I would expect a Ryley to be very loud & very naughty for some reason! Although that might be a bit unfair blush.

P.S. A work colleague of mine actually has a Harvey spelt Harvee smile.

Roopoo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:17:12

I like Harvey
Savanna is nice as well!

teatrolley Mon 11-Mar-13 23:17:23

They aren't names I'd choose however you spell them.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:17:44

mary all of those things are true, that is how I feel. I have been called chavvy, horrible and that not worse than asking people to not be unkind?

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Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:18:15

There's me thinking I was ahead of the curve with Harvee grin!

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:18:33

I don't see why Harvee is being bitchy, btw. Harvee is no sillier than Savanna.

Though I personally would prefer the very unusual and slightly edgy Har-V.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:19:57

Very apt Maryz as I am sadly old enough to remember Harvey Smith and his famous V sign grin!

Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:21:22

No-one called you illiterate, did they? They said you were spelling Savannah incorrectly. And no-one called you horrible. Or chavvy - they said the names sounded chavvy, but I didn't because the word chavvy is pretty horrible.

You called everyone bitchy. And said everyone was ganging up.

You asked for opinions. Hide the thread, go away and think about it. Because the reaction you get here will be the reaction your children will get in real life.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:22:36

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Maryz Mon 11-Mar-13 23:24:17

This is constructive chat [baffled]

It's what you wanted - opinions.

[sigh] I give up.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:25:26


I was trying to be constructive by saying that I liked the name but that spelling it in an alternative manner doesn't really help in its general acceptance and perhaps spelling it in the correct manner - back to Georgie and Jorgie - might make life a bit easier in the future especially for your DD to be.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:26:00

x posts Maryz!

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:26:18

yes please do give up and scurry off.

teatrolley Mon 11-Mar-13 23:26:25

No-one called you 'chavvy' or illiterate. They said the names, in their opinion, sounded 'chavvy' or that they judged deliberate misspellings.

twinklestar2 Mon 11-Mar-13 23:26:46

I loved Savannah about 10 years ago!! Now it's everywhere so I've gone off it.

Dexter is my fave out of all your boys names.

My mate has a little girl called Rylie which I think is just an odd way to spell it.

boomting Mon 11-Mar-13 23:27:10

Unfortunately miss spelt names always make me assume the worst about the intelligence levels of the parents

Imagine this alternative thread...

OP: DH and I have a lovely history together..<insert origin of Savanna with no H>, but we wonder what you think of the name
MN vipers: ahhh, what a sweet story, but we think maybe you might have trouble with the alternative spelling for the following reasons
OP: I see what you mean, and thanks for your comments but I think we will risk it and go with it anyway
MN vipers: <shrug>
Olivia: <silence>

Mother IMO Brooke is beautiful, and I love Sebastian. I too have an odd spelling of a common ish name and despite spelling it regularly find that people get v interested. Personally therefore I find speaking a minor thing. Clearly one mans junk is another man's treasure, and all I mean by that is that you're not going to find anything other than opinion here, and the only opinion that matters for your baby is yours x

Whilst I do find speaking a minor thing I clearly meant spelling in that context hmm

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:31:26

thanks merkin grin

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:31:33

'Scurry off' and 'do one' - charming I'm sure.

Charles and Lucy, the thread would have been 3 posts long grin!

Hippee Mon 11-Mar-13 23:31:58

OP - leave the thread and don't be tempted back. If it's not going well it's better just to cut your losses - if you try to argue it will just get worse. Don't worry about it - just enjoy your pregnancy.

MotherOfCleo Mon 11-Mar-13 23:34:39

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ladymia Mon 11-Mar-13 23:40:18

Mind you, I quite like Sebastian.

I am unsure how having African history makes it OK to spell Savannah wrong but hey-ho the spelling thing has been done now.

My cousin called her daughter Nichole! with an H! We all snigger behind her back but tell her it's lovely so if you do decide to call your child something with the incorrect spelling I doubt it will matter as nobody would be rude enough to tell you once you have done it.

Frogman Mon 11-Mar-13 23:40:47

Not only do you want to spell the names wrongly, but you also add a splattering of 'LOLs' and the dreaded 'my bad' in your posts. Any post with these ingredients isn't going to end well.

Cotapaxi Mon 11-Mar-13 23:42:13

I was desperately trying to ignore the 'my bad' thing but honest to god? You called me hun too...


teatrolley Mon 11-Mar-13 23:45:39

Psssst! Half the people on the thread are probably pregnant.

I started a thread about the name we wanted to give DD. It was a difficult to spell name and I found the advice I got on MN very valuable in deciding to give DD a name that is easy to spell and doesn't have an variants. In all honesty, one of the best pieces of advice was not to discuss my baby's name with anyone except DH.

FriggFRIGGisPoorlySick Tue 12-Mar-13 00:04:51

This is brilliant.
It's like nethuns bingo grin

BabyFaker Tue 12-Mar-13 00:09:34

Hi OP. Congrats on your bfp!

I don't like Harvey because of the Jordan/Katie Price association.

And I think Savanna is much better spelt Savannah.

Riley is sooo popular. Andrew might be more cool and unusual!

Sorry to say I think names spelt in a 'kooky' way look horribly chavvy.

MidnightMasquerader Tue 12-Mar-13 00:16:36

You just know that when a thread in Baby Names has 167 posts, things haven't gone well. grin

Cleo - you asked for opinions/thoughts on the names Savanna and Ryley (among others). People have given you their opinions on Savanna and Ryley.

I would put it out there, that if this thread has annoyed you as much as it has, it might be better not to go with these names/spellings, since you'll have a lifetime of explaining and justifying. And if a small foray into that, via MN Baby Names is enough to raise your blood pressure, a lifetime of it is going to do you no good at all.

BabyFaker Tue 12-Mar-13 00:22:40

As horrible as it might be to hear OP, people in real life might not say what people on here have said but they will be thinking it.

Anyway, hope you are tucked up in bed and not too upset about the nest of vipers!

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 00:27:21

I dont think people would say to your face when introducing your gorgeous little baby.....ohhh what a chavvy name. People are happy to type things they would never say. Plus I actually couldnt give a flying fig what those nasty women think.

I think there are far more unusual names out their than Harvey and Savanna(h) so I'm not worried about explaining myself for years. I know an Orlah a Roisin a Rhiain a Brianna a Michiyla a Siobhan a Tamar a Charley etc.....none of these panic at having to spell their names and they are far more unusual than Savanna.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 00:31:22

nest of vipers is a perfect way of putting it. grin

I wasnt trying to be kooky or original or unique I was simply writing what we like, the disregard for feelings hurt but I guess I should have expected it. I never realised the lack of a 'h' would freak out so many people.

Tbh the name Savanna will be hugely unusual where I live, I have never heard of anyone of any age with that name so whether it has a 'h' or doesnt it will raise eyebrows

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 00:46:44

cota trust me their is no way in hell I would call you 'hun' it was a 'hum' as im 'hummmm what on earth are you on about' hope that makes you feel better.

KobayashiMaru Tue 12-Mar-13 01:10:26

they won't say it to your face, just behind your back.

Cotapaxi Tue 12-Mar-13 06:56:14

Ok that does make me feel better thank you MotherOfCleo grin!

Hope you feel ok this morning, honestly was not my intention or I suspect anyone's to make you feel bad.

wigglesrock Tue 12-Mar-13 07:07:05

God this is horrible thread, and I dont mean the OP. Its baby names, anyone with a bit of wit would realise a poster is going to be a bit sensitive re a prospective name. A lot of the responses have been very clever clever, and are we still going the Netmum digs (snore) ?

If you want to spell Savanna without the H go ahead, people will get it after being told once. My daughter has the less common spelling of a popular name- we have managed.

Im not as fussed on the boys names, Cooper is actually my favourite.

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 07:14:05

Savannah ok but without the H not so.
I wasn't being mean when I said about Netmums OP.

Have you tried them. They're not as outspoken as MN.

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 12-Mar-13 08:11:02

Have never ever had to explain Orlaith , my DDs name as it's a recognised spelling.
All you have to consider really is , are you going to be upset every time a party invite, teacher etc spells Savanna or Ryley incorrectly. If you will be easy going then do it - if it will kill your blood pressure then use Cooper / Harvey etc smile
Enjoy your pregnancy it's a special time - watch out for the hormonal surge of made mess that makes you think that Velvet or similar is a great name grin

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 08:32:32

Thanks wiggle grin glad you understand my issue.

ken ryley was a thought so dont get too hung up on it. Savannah or Savanna I actually dont mind how its spelt I just like the name, I simply would have liked some imput on the
actual names not just the 'h'. You see, I would struggle with your daughters name, usual spelling or not as I have never heard of it before, so we are obviously all different.

The upshot of this is that I shall go back to the forums I know are friendly. I think the reaction on here will stop me advising other people to join though.....sad really.

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 08:56:59

MN is friendly.
As long as spell your kids names correctly wink

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 12-Mar-13 08:58:11

I'm not hung up - was trying to be nice. Sigh.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:01:29

ken sorry that wasnt mean in a nasty way at all. I simply meant we probably wont go with it so dont worry too much about it. Sorry if I offended.

KenDoddsDadsDog Tue 12-Mar-13 09:04:24

It's ok - you have had a rough time for a baby name thread ! Still think you should go with Cooper.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:05:25

ever I certainly havent found you friendly. sad
If Savannah with an 'h' makes you feel better thats fine, if you like it with an 'h' great if you dislike it with an 'h' also great, just a note again though it was thoughts on the 'names' not an english lesson I was hoping for.

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 09:05:37

Goodness me mother, you're posts on this thread really aren't very nice shock.

I do find it ironic that you are calling everyone names just because they don't agree with you. Everyone has been very friendly despite your continually calling them bitches, nasty, uncaring, unfriendly and a whole lot of other things. And telling them sarcastically to scurry off and end the thread etc.

Really, not very nice hmm.

Do you not think the thread would have been useless if everyone had said "lovely name, go for it" - or did you really want a dozen posts saying that?

Surely asking for thoughts means that you want thoughts. And the helpful advice you have got on this thread now means that you know what people will think when you use these names - which is what you wanted, isn't it? And as you said yourself - you didn't realise the lack of h would surprise so many people. Now you know, which is useful, surely.

I genuinely don't understand why people do this [sigh]

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:06:22

Thanks ken I do like Cooper, it has a nice ring to it, maybe we shall put it back on our list. grin

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:14:12

mary I honestly dont understand how you think people have been 'kind' [baffled]. Someone had their message deleted for swearing at me, how is that 'kind'.

I have called it how I saw it/felt it. People ganged up on me for no real reason. Surely if someone says they feel you are being unkind calling them deranged isnt the natural next step.

I am obviously less used to being treated like this than you are. Sorry if my sensitivity offended you. I think we should just leave it as I did get a few helpful comments/suggestions among the mud slinging.

I will just say I am 'wrong' Savannah should always be spelt with an 'h' as people will pick on my child if it is spelt any other way. I will make sure to tell my OH that people don't really like it but they like it even less without an 'h'. Riley will be totally forgotten after this thread, I've taken it off the list.

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 09:20:03

No, people haven't ganged up on you.

People pointed out nicely that you had spelled the name wrong, and gave you constructive criticism. You ignored most of it, but instead got arsey, called people bitches etc and told everyone to get out of your thread.

So of course people took the mick.

You need to read your own posts and see how rude you were , before jumping up and down and criticising everyone else.

AndFanjoWasHisNameO Tue 12-Mar-13 09:23:25

See now I like Cooper and love 'Coop' for a nickname too smile
Have a look on good site for names.
Try not to feel to victimised on here-it may be worth having a wander around the boards to pick up on the general feel of the place before posting and getting yourself too upset. I love it here and much prefer the brutal honesty and subtle humour it to any other site but it certainly isn't for everyone....wink

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 09:23:43

I don't like Savannah with a H or without. It's naff.

I was just being polite wink

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ladymia Tue 12-Mar-13 09:25:26

As I've said its not misspelt, there are 2 spellings. We should know we have history in africa.

Well I was offended by you, I have "African history" and to hint that people can spell Savannah wrong because they are from that continent makes us look like idiots smile just FYI ... well unless by African history you mean the cider Savanna which originated in South Africa.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:25:51

I have reread my posts and stand by them, I asked people to be constructive to which people swore and took the piss, it was like being back in a school playground. I was asking grown women for imput not a 'you cant spell [snigger]' type reaction.

As I said sorry if it upset you, if you are that annoyed just walk away.

I prefer Savanna without the h.
I also prefer Harvey to be spelt without the h too = Arvey.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:29:21

no mia I mean my OH grew up in Africa and knows people with the name, therefore we accept both used spellings. Most naming sites give 2 spellings for Savannah as they do for Stephen, Katy etc etc. I really don't see why everyone got so upset about an 'h'?

I was getting told I couldnt spell and I was stupid etc so wanted to point out we know the origin of the name and know both spellings.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:30:00

See this is going back to how it was last night, a personal attack on can you not see that?

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ZolaBuddleia Tue 12-Mar-13 09:43:33

I like Sebastian, it's cool and suits all ages. Particularly like it as a first name with a one syllable surname.

Brooke feels a bit 'princessy' to me, I see a little girl with a 'When I Grow Up I Want To Be A WAG' t-shirt on. What about Megan, Amber, Molly, do you like those?

Ryley and Savanna I'm not keen on because Ryley sounds the same as the very popular Riley and I don't like the name Savannah so I wouldn't want something that sounded the same.

The Katie Price connection would put me off Harvey, sorry.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 09:45:24

thanks zola hum Amber, thats quite nice smile

givemeaclue Tue 12-Mar-13 09:45:43

Chav names? Names were popular with American trailer trash ten years ago, Britney and Courtney being two others. Miss spelling them also popular to make them "different".

SanityClause Tue 12-Mar-13 09:47:58

How is it a personal attack?

No one has said that you are, for example, stupid for spelling Savannah without an H, or Riley with two Ys.

They have given reasons why they don't like the spellings you have used. That's not a personal attack. It's an opinion about the names you want to discuss.

That's what you asked for, and that's what you got.

As for the Africa connection, it may well be true that in some African countries, made up unusual spellings are more common. (Remember that Chelsey girl that Prince Harry dated for years?) But, in the UK, this is less common.

By the way, the vast majority of people on this forum are either pregnant, or have been pregnant at some point in their lives. Forgive us for not expecting to treat you like a princess because you are pregnant.

givemeaclue Tue 12-Mar-13 09:50:42

Jazmin, Whitney, Jordan, Cheyenne, Kaylee, Brooklyn, Paige, Bailey, Regan etc all also on the list

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ZolaBuddleia Tue 12-Mar-13 09:52:29

I'm also very much not a fan of creating your own spellings of names, but I think it would cause more problems with Ryley/Riley than Savanna/Savannah because it's a popular name so everyone would automatically think of the recognised version. A friend of mine has an Aemilia, which, although a recognised spelling of Amelia, means endless spelling out as people are so used to the more commonly found spelling.

I like Cleo!

Frogman Tue 12-Mar-13 09:55:00

I prefer Savannah without the S A V A N N A H in it wink

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 09:55:13

Yep Cleo is cute. not Clio

NandH Tue 12-Mar-13 09:55:18

OP, it's your baby, you name him/her smile
your only going to get flamed on here regarding spellings, I too prefer savannah with a H but that's just my opinion and my opinion (like everyone else's here) doesn't really matter tbh, if you like savanna use it!

like I said before, I have a baby Harvey so love It!! Sebastian is also lovely!

your pregnant, you don't need the stress, and this thread is reverting back to how it was going last night so I suggest for your own sanity and stress Free day you just leave the thread, people will get bored and leave it also when you stop reacting to them smile

Enjoy your pregnancy! and good luck smile

remember no-one on here knows you in real life so when you sign out of mumnets forgot about it, leave this "conversation" here and don't think about it smile

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 09:55:51

MotherOfCleo MN is friendly, I have had some fantastic advice, support and entertainment here.
Baby names and AIBU probably not so much, you need a thick skin to ask for the opinions of faceless strangers and a big pinch of salt to read their posts with.
My DC names usually fall into two categories on here 'chav' or 'of the moment', but I couldn't give a fuck!
For what it's worth I do think there has been bitching aimed at you OP but I also think that the spelling opinions are constructive and valid or at least the first few were.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 10:19:41

thanks notso and nandh glad you can see my point of view. Also glad to hear from some nice MNers.

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 10:27:18

Oh, ffs.

That was yet another unpleasant post.

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 10:33:03

From you Maryz hmm

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everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 10:42:17

So you're only a nice mumsnetter if you agree with an OP about the crazy spelling of a name?


Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 10:43:14


SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 10:47:49

I like Sebastian, but not the others - and misspelling names in an attempt to make them interesting or yooneeq makes my teeth ache.

Those are my thoughts wink

Roopoo Tue 12-Mar-13 10:48:21

OP my DC have names that are frequently slated on MN as being chavvy etc. grin

If you like the names that is all that matters. If everyone liked the same names it would be a boring world.
Alternative spellings don't bother me. Just because a name is spelt differently doesn't make it wrong.

FWIW I think the word chavvy is vile and is says more about the person using it. Almost like it makes them feel superior.

Now Im running for cover winkgrin

SanityClause Tue 12-Mar-13 10:52:16

The first few opinions about spelling were what the OP took umbrage to, notso.

If the OP had had your attitude of "I don't give a flying what MNers think of my DC's name", the thread wouldn't have panned out like it did.

She asked for opinions, but when people gave them, she accused them of being bitchy and bullying, and worse, accused them of saying things they had not said.

I'm not sure what opinions would've got the thumbs up from the OP - certainly yours wouldn't have if it had been on the first page. Read it back!

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 10:55:31

Actually if you misspell a word it does make it wrong! Or should I say - iff yoo miss spel a wurd it duzz mayk it rong wink

As other posters have said (and I completely agree, having a surname that looks misspelled) living with a name that has a yooneeq spelling is an utter PITA.

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 10:56:53

Roopoo the chav word wasn't used for quite a way into the thread.

The OP didn't like it that people didn't agree with her choice of spellings. And in her second post she said ' not being funny but it's my kid and I can spell it how I want '

Well why bother frigging asking then!!

hatsybatsy Tue 12-Mar-13 11:24:44

phew - what a read.

OP -am not going to comment on the saga that has happened here. I am not even going to give my opinions on your names (your baby, your name).

All I want to say is that after 40 years with an unusual spelling of a very standard name, it really is not worth it. An unusual spelling may look prettier and seem more exotic, but for the person in question it's a waste of time. If I could wind the clock back and persuade my mother to choose Katherine (rather than a variant which include altogether too many 'A's and 'Y's) then I would.

Savanna may feel the same in 40 years time.

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 11:25:46

I gave my opinion six posts in Sanity I said I didn't like the spelling of Savanna.

However I didn't spit my dummy out when the OP didn't bask in my infinite wisdom and change her mind about the spelling unlike some others. I'm not saying the OP handled things well but all this mock innocence and she started is pathetic.
Other posters perhaps should have taken OP's constructive critisism, it works both ways.

SanityClause Tue 12-Mar-13 12:18:13

Oh, yes, notso I can see that you did give an opinion of the spelling, even after the OP said the spelling wasn't something she was willing to discuss.

GreatUncleEddie Tue 12-Mar-13 12:27:34

Think you'd better go back to the friendlier forums hun

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 12:34:56

Actually she had only said
"'s my kid and I'll spell it how I want ..." by then, the
"I asked what people thought of the names, I didnt ask whether people liked my spelling!!!" came after my post.
Not sure what your point was though hmm

Viviennemary Tue 12-Mar-13 13:15:41

Well I looked up the spelling in Wikepedia so obviously it must be right! it says you can spell it with or without the h. Trying to be the voice of reason. grin

KobayashiMaru Tue 12-Mar-13 13:21:53

I did find one person who spells her name that way. Shes a prize winning porno actress.

difficultpickle Tue 12-Mar-13 13:26:50

The problem is OP that you are in the UK and practically no one would ever spell Savannah without an 'h', no matter if it is common to spell that way in SA.

Up to you what you choose but just imagine always having to spell your name out and then explain why it doesn't have an 'h' at the end.

ladymia Tue 12-Mar-13 13:44:41

It's not a common spelling in SA bisjo. In SA they spell it the PROPER way with an H! Except when they are referring to the cider which is without the H ... or the OP's future child.

See what you have done OP, just what I was afraid of ... People now think people in SA are illiterate and can't spell! grin

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 13:47:20

Did the OP say SA? I just seem to remember that her OH had African heritage - which struck me as a bit vague! I must have missed the SA bit.

Roopoo Tue 12-Mar-13 13:55:41

OP never mentioned South Africa

KateSMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 12-Mar-13 14:10:28

<runs in blowing whistle and making time out signal>

Ok, you say Savannah, I say Savanna, let's call the whole thing off.

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 14:13:08

Bit late for that Kate wink

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 14:17:34

And Ryley? Where does MN stand on Ryley, Kate? wink

KateSMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 12-Mar-13 14:21:36


Bit late for that Kate wink

It's never too late for a bit of Ella and Louis

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 14:21:51

as if it wasn't bad enough giving your poor kid the name Riley, but lumbering him with it spelt wrong too <rolls eyes>

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 14:27:24

MN has neatly sidestepped the Ryley question, I note grin

now, Ella and Louis, they are LOVELY names smile

Skygirls Tue 12-Mar-13 14:51:22

Oooh! You're all so naughty wink.

Cleo congratulations on your pg btw. IMO, as others have said, if you like the name go for it. At the end of the day it is your child, so please don't get stressed out by what others have said. It doesn't matter.

I take the point that it can be a PITA to have to constantly correct people if your name has an unusual spelling, like mine, but so what? I never had a problem telling people.

My DD is a Savannah. Personally I love the name - for me, it was right for my DD. It suited her.
I had friends say to me that it was a porn star's name or was chavvy, but that was their opinion of the name, not mine.
(Although my DH said he would prefer not to think about her being a 'treeless plain' or just 'plain' grin)
My 2 cents worth is that I don't really like Ryley though, but love Sebastian - no real reason.

In a few months, you will have a beautiful baby.
The name you pick, spelling and all, will be lovely because it'll be right for your child. Good luck with everything thanks

Skygirls Tue 12-Mar-13 14:56:41

Well what is the correct way for pronouncing Louis? Is it Looey or Lewis?
Don't want to open a can of worms here......grin

badtime Tue 12-Mar-13 15:03:47

This is an awesome thread.

I do feel sorry for the OP, in that she is clearly taking a lot of things personally which to an outside observer do not look like personal comments. She may well have felt overwhelmed by the number of people who (rightly, IMO) thought the spelling was an issue, when she did not consider that the spelling is an integral part of the name.

However, I think the 'thread is closed' and calling everyone bitchy etc was not helpful. That sort of behaviour looks a bit passive-aggressive, even if someone doesn't mean it that way.

Also, if many people think the same thing, it is not evidence that they are ganging up - it may just mean they all think the same thing about a particular name.

FWIW, the Queen's great-granddaughter Savannah Phillips is 12th in line to the throne. I don't like the name, but it's not necessarily 'chavvy'. wink

SanityClause Tue 12-Mar-13 15:08:20

My point, notso is that the OP has changed her tune.

Earlier on, anyone mentioning spelling (including you) was attacking her.

But then, she thanked you for being understanding, even though you had "attacked" her previously. As I said, what you put in your later post, that you were thanked for, about not liking her choice of spelling would have been unacceptable to her on the first page of the thread.

She has been somewhat irrational all through the thread, and I don't really think she has been bullied, at all. And no one has called her illiterate or a chav. She made that up.

Frankly, I agree that she can spell the name however she wants. Many others who have been accused of bullying have said the same.

vamosbebe Tue 12-Mar-13 15:34:43

OP: I don't like any of your names except Harvey - only because of the James Stewart film with the invisible bunny, one of my favourites.

How you spell names is, of course, up to you; but be aware that even though people in RL (probably) won't comment on something they don't like, when you're behind the anonymity of a forum username you'll read those thoughts.

For instance, I hate small babies with their ears pierced but I wouldn't say that to a parent's face!

Congratulations on your pregnancy thanks

Cotapaxi Tue 12-Mar-13 15:36:13

Not passive-aggressive just plain ole aggressive.

badtime Tue 12-Mar-13 15:41:34

I agree Cotapaxi, but I think the OP genuinely thought that she was being attacked, even though most people were being polite and expressing an opinion which just happened to differ from hers.

I do think MN should have a [wahmbulance] emoticon.

AvonCallingBarksdale Tue 12-Mar-13 15:46:22

I couldn't give a hoot about the spellings tbh OP., that's your call, totally. However, my personal opinion is that they are both names that I would give a very, very wide berth to. Savanna is marginally better than Harvey, which I really don't like. Sebastian, oth is great - Seb, Bas, Sebby, Bastian are all good IMVHO.

Ashoething Tue 12-Mar-13 15:51:28

You asked for my opinion op-savanna and ryley are both horrible names and you will be judged for them as shall they.

MotherOfCleo Tue 12-Mar-13 15:53:33

<Peaks in slightly scared and intimidated>

Ok, firstly sorry to anyone I upset, annoyed or p*ssed off in anyway. I have raging pregnancy hormones which went a bit awry, I honestly felt upset and like I was being ganged up on but should have written things more constructively last night.

I am finding things a bit hard at the moment as my OH had to go overseas almost as soon as we found out I was pregnant and I haven't told anyone in RL so have felt very alone. Then I fell quite badly in the snow last night and hurt myself, I was hoping for a nice chatty thread with name suggestions, banter etc but ended up feeling a bit bullied by all the 'anti' talk which continued long after I stopped posting.

I will bow out and let you continue and discussion you want to have.

CheeseStrawWars Tue 12-Mar-13 15:58:39

Congrats on your pregnancy OP, and sorry you've been upset. I don't think that was the intention of most posters on here. Hope you recover from your fall quickly. thanks

Cotapaxi Tue 12-Mar-13 16:01:25

Oh no Cleo I am genuinely sorry sad. Well done for coming on and apologising that takes a lot of guts smile.

Take care of yourself and try not to take it to heart, don't bow out of MN altogether, this thread will die a death soon enough anyhow smile.

The names are not to my taste but if you like them that's what matters.

FWIW, when I was pregnant with DC1 I started a thread on here asking for opinions on a particular name with a particular spelling - a certain friendly ghost you may have heard of, but with a 'K' (that I loved and had called my cat years before)! The vipers ladies of MN said it was a nice name but suggested I might want to spell it a different way as the 'K' spelling I liked was associated with a clown/idiot in Germany. I didn't know this so was grateful. I ended up using the spelling of the name that MN suggested (beginning with a 'C' and ending -ar as I realised from research that their spelling was actually the 'original' spelling of the name and it has Persian origins, which I loved because I am of Persian heritage. I am glad I did, I love it and I'm so thankful I posted!

Funnily enough though he does get his name misspelt a lot, people tend to know the version of the name beginning with 'C' and ending -er that bloody ghost but it's nothing we have ever been upset over as we know our spelling is correct so we just correct as and when we need to but for things like birthday invitations and Christmas cards it really doesn't bother us.

Moral of the story: call your baby the name you love and if a certain spelling had meaning to you then that's nice and don't worry what other people think! But also, listen to MN, they may stop you making a big mistake. grin

I really don't think spelling Savannah 'Savanna' is anywhere near as bad as spelling, for example, the name Alistair as 'Alaztayre' - you're only missing off a letter on the end, not adding random letters and punctuation!

P.S. If you guessed my DS's name please don't spell it out on this thread as I don't want to out myself by his name being searched for. thanks

Congrats on your pregnancy OP - I'm in first tri too, it's an emotional time isn't it. smile

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 17:11:29

Don't bow out Cleo
It's big of you not to flounce.

MN can be a really lovely place, offering support, advice or just a laugh.

Unfortunately baby names and the spelling of them can cause carnage.

When are you due?

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 17:15:41

That's very gracious of you Cleo smile. I'm sorry too - I genuinely didn't mean to be mean, I just see an awful lot of threads like this (have you seen the amarie one?) where people haven't thought through the fact that their "unusual spelling" with be their child's "constant annoyance".

I understand the hormonal thing too. I was convinced that I could call my first child Zinzan (after a New Zealand rugby player) despite not having any maori blood, knowing nothing about what it meant, and just thinking it was a manly, different, strong name.

Thankfully I saw sense - ds1 would really hate me if I had done it.

Meerkat, I remember that thread <sniggers slightly> but I won't out you. It was a humdinger iirc/

Sorry you are feeling shit op - it's horrible being pregnant and not able to tell anyone; it's very isolating.

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 17:28:00

I think we've all been there Cleo - you'll be able to look back and laugh at this thread in future (when you're holding Savannah or Riley in your arms wink grin)

I wanted to call my DCs some real belters when my pregnancy hormones was at their raging best. Fortunately my DH put his foot down (one of the few times he has, thankfully) and they've been spared lives of misery as a result. Not sure what MN would have made of them - I suspect in comparison you have had it easy on here!!

Hope the rest of the pregnancy goes well.

everlong Tue 12-Mar-13 17:34:54

<<group hug>>

PandaWatch Tue 12-Mar-13 17:52:06

<wanders into thread>

When we first started ttc I announced to DH I really wanted to call potential future DS Sirius, after my favourite HP character. I was adamant for a while it was the only boy's name I liked. I didn't even have pregnancy hormones to blame at the time. Picking baby names does funny things to people.

<wanders out of thread>

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 18:10:24

Sirius is nice. I like Sirius. What's wrong with Sirius??

MardyBra Tue 12-Mar-13 18:13:48
SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 18:14:38




Surely that means you are a fan of Brooke, though? wink
(Valentine, by deed poll, wtf? shock)

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 18:34:09

Valentine????????????? shock [splutters] [teenage dreams smashed emoticon].

Yes, Brooke is a very nice surname wink

SanityClause Tue 12-Mar-13 19:12:51

Peek back in again sometime, OP!

Pregnancy hormones always made me very irritable, as well, as I mentioned upthread.

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 20:13:38

Well I returrn for a right old barney and instead find this schmaltzy love-in,
who needs a hug? grin

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 20:14:20

Rolled my 'r's there!

Cotapaxi Tue 12-Mar-13 20:32:00

Kumbi ya my lord kumbi ya... oh lord kumbi ya

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 20:38:51

<gets guitar out>

Cotapaxi Tue 12-Mar-13 20:58:25

<and tambourine for the rousing chorus>

MooseyMouse Tue 12-Mar-13 21:24:40

Hey OP

You were ganged up on. Lots of people gleefully mocked you and the tone of several posts was unpleasant. If you love those names you should use them. Congratulations on your pregnancy!

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 21:34:59

There's always one [sigh]

It doesn't matter how nice a thread has become, there's always one.

SirChenjin Tue 12-Mar-13 21:42:51

Give the pot a big old stir now Moosey - go on, you know you want to.

notso Tue 12-Mar-13 21:56:56

Hey Moosey peace man, this thread is all about the love now.

Maryz, I don't think it was much of a humdinger sadly, I took the point swiftly and glady, grateful to have been saved by MN. grin Was a good 2 1/2 years ago so I can't remember the finer points.

I think the MN baby name board is an institution! You can bet Kate is on here somewhere contemplating posting her list for approval;



meerkat grin

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 22:20:08

We need a thread on that, don't we.

I vote for a perfectly standard name (Victoria or Elizabeth) with an interesting nickname.

Off you go maryz and start that threads<lazy Norks is lazy>

princess Maryz?

Maryz Tue 12-Mar-13 22:26:31

Mary Zahira, maybe grin.

Hasn't anyone started one yet? There must be someone.

iheartmycat Wed 13-Mar-13 13:59:11

There,s a secret bit of me that desperately wants to call my baby dimples (I'm not joking!) luckily dp would rugby tackle me to the floor if I tried to register her as this! (Don't know what I'm having and v much hoping this is pregnancy hormones! )

iheartmycat Wed 13-Mar-13 14:00:02

If Kate and wills want to steal dimples tho, thy can feel free (I could start a trend) wink

thegreylady Wed 13-Mar-13 14:44:50

I hope the op hasn't been frightened off mn for good as she could use the support if she is pregnant and her dh is away.
What on earth does it matter?It doesn't alter the sound of the name at all.

manicinsomniac Wed 13-Mar-13 19:48:52

I have a 10 year old Savannah and
a) she is never called Sav, Savvy, Chav or Chavvy. Often Vannah but I quite like that.
b) we live in the home counties and she's at private school

There is also a Harvey in her class.

I quite like all your name choices except Dexter but Savanna and Harvey would be my favourites.

Laquila Thu 14-Mar-13 12:36:10

I like Cooper, not keen on Harvey (Jordan, and also So Solid Crew), love Sebastien (and Bastian).

Savanna Brooke is very American to me - not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, just pointing it out.

Ryley I'm not sure about - definite prefer Sebastian.

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