Our final five

(38 Posts)
FreedomOfTheTess Wed 06-Mar-13 12:58:20

Baby bump (due in July) is "almost certainly" a girl, so we've focused efforts on girl names right now, although we will have some boy names on hand just in case.

Anyhow this is the final five for #4 who will be a sister for Jack, Alexander and Sarah...

Mary - not popular now, but obviously was the "go to" name for generations, and as such is the most common female name in the world. Would she hate us? Is it tired sounding or would it sound fresh these days, among all the girls called Olivia and Ruby (to name but a few)?

Margaret - we love, love, love Maggie but would never use it as a given name. We also love Margaret, it's a family name on both sides, but when I mentioned it to my mum she said, "Thatcher". Yeah I get that, but by the time baby bump grows up, Maggie T isn't going to be around is she?!

Elisabeth - a family name on my side, was my great-grandmother's name (I knew her, she passed when I was 7), and is also my mum's middle name. The 's' spelling is how my g-gran and my mum's middle name is spelt. We would shorten to Bess or Elsie.

Rose - we both love the simplicity of it but could we use it when we've got a Jack? When I mentioned I liked it to a friend, she said, "but Rose and Jack - Titanic - you can't do it." Thoughts on that?

Frances - a family name on DH's side and also my grandmother's middle name. We would only call her Frances, not Frankie or Fran, we don't like either of those. NB: If anyone can come up with alternative nicknames, much appreciated, but it isn't vital. We'd be happy to just use Frances.

So what you do think? What is the best fit with the older sibling names? Which one is more "wearable" these days? Or should we scrap the list and start again?

NB: The middle name will be Helen, after my aunt.

FoofFighter Wed 06-Mar-13 13:02:12

I think any of them would fit perfectly well and they are all lovely names smile my order of preference would be:


They are all lovely. I'd use Margaret like a shot.

ShowOfHands Wed 06-Mar-13 13:09:55

Oh Mary. By a country mile.

LemonBreeland Wed 06-Mar-13 13:13:39

I find Mary and Margaret old lady names, although I knew a family a few years ago who had both, and another DD with a distinctly modern name. So I've always remembered that.

I don't like Rose at all

Frances, if you don't like Fran or Frankie I would be tempted not to use it as it would seem inevitable that when she grows up that one of those will get used.

Elisabeth is a timeless classic, and has so many lovely nns so I would go with that.

I have a lovely friend called Mary, she is in her late twenties and I've known her since we were students, so not old lady to me but rather my very outgoing friend. That gets my vote, and Elisabeth second because your nicknames are gorgeous. I also think the s spelling avoids being shortened to Liz which is an awful name imo...

seeker Wed 06-Mar-13 13:18:08

They are all lovely. But you do know you only have any control at all over shortenings and nicknames for about 2 years don't you? And even then not much?

ELR Wed 06-Mar-13 13:22:43

I'm not keen on Mary or margaret but like Maggie.
I like Frances and Elisabeth but not keen on Elsie but like ELISA
Rose is lovely and don't get why it matters about jack and rose its a film!!

I think Rose fits nicely with your other children

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 06-Mar-13 13:32:37

Mary is underused imo, would make a lovely change.

Have you looked at MN Baby Name Finder? Lots of variations of Mary:

Maarya, Mair, Maire, Mairi, Mara, Maree, Mari, Maria, Mariah, Marie, Marwah, Marya, Maura, Meera, Meira, Mere, Merie, Meroe, Merry, Mhairi, Mir

and elsewhere Mariska gets a mention too.

Tricky calling a girl Frances and not finding everyone calls her Fran or Frankie.

I agree by the time your little girl reaches high school then adulthood Lady M Thatcher will be consigned to the history books, her generation won't bat an eyelid.

Rose is very popular, I wouldn't be put off by already having a Jack in the family simply because of a film released in 1997.

notso Wed 06-Mar-13 13:35:37

Elisabeth sounds best with your other DC names, don't like Bess or Elsie though.

Rose is lovely, my second favourite.

I love Maggie, but don't like Margaret so much.

I find Mary a bit 'meh'.

Frances is my favourite and I will always regret not using it for DD. DH vetoed it sad

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 06-Mar-13 13:44:29

Left out Elizabeth, heaps of names for her to choose a shortened version later on. Bess is sweet, don't like Elsie personally sorry.

FreedomOfTheTess Wed 06-Mar-13 13:48:38

Oh yeah, full aware that we only have control over shortenings for a short time.

DS2 is Alexander, and we call him Lex, but even at the age of 6, he has decided he prefers Alex. So I try to call him Alex now, if that's what he wants.

Maebe Wed 06-Mar-13 14:03:01

Maggie! Slightly biased as I have a girl Alex, and hopefully any future girls will be a Maggie (though I'm with you on the longer name on the birth certificate).

FreedomOfTheTess Wed 06-Mar-13 14:06:53

Oh and with regards to the Jack and Rose thing, my friend says people might think we used both names because of the film!

If we did use Rose and anyone commented, I'd simply point out it isn't the case, as I didn't even like the film!!

I like Mary. Can't imagine anyone with that name being horrid. Elisabeth would be my second choice.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles Wed 06-Mar-13 14:41:44

I've never seen that film all the way through, myself.

AThingInYourLife Wed 06-Mar-13 14:48:51





Mary is the worst name in the world. I've known plenty of unpleasant Marys.
Awful name.

Frances and Margaret are great though.

SurreyWithAFringeOnTop Wed 06-Mar-13 20:11:36

Mary is lovely, my favourite, closely followed by Elisabeth (love Betty and Elsie).

Margaret is a good solid name but I just think Thatcher, ruins it for me.

Rose is really dull.

I do like Frances but it is just ok, not great.

Catchingmockingbirds Wed 06-Mar-13 20:12:33


wiltingfast Wed 06-Mar-13 22:53:22

I think Rose fits best with the other names in your family. Who cares about the titantic? The connection would not occur to me and you won't have only Jack and Rose so not v obvious imo.

After that like Margaret (love Maggie!), again I don't think people automatically think thatcher? She's gone a while!

Not sure about mary, quite like elisabeth (tho wld prefer a "z"!)

Not that keen on frances either really. Frannie is another nn for frances.

curiousgeorgie Thu 07-Mar-13 09:11:17

Maggie is so lovely... Margaret not so much.

The others I don't think go as well.

MorphandChas Thu 07-Mar-13 09:41:00

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pinkandyellowbutterfly Thu 07-Mar-13 15:28:45

I've always liked the name Frances but do feel its an aquired taste. I find it hard to say and find that it doesn't really flow well. The s on the end can be combersome expecially when constantly referring to something that belongs to her: frances' etc.

WormCanner Thu 07-Mar-13 16:17:45

Haha, I see everybody's avoiding the traditional nn for Frances .... Fanny.

baskingseals Thu 07-Mar-13 16:32:06

my favourites are Rose and Elisabeth.

i love the name Rose. elegant simple and not too common. plenty of girls have it as a second name but i don't know one Rose - big or small.

Elisabeth is also lovely, and i love the nickname Bess.

i would use Margaret, Mary and Frances as second names.
another alternative for Margaret could be Marguerite.

Frikadellen Thu 07-Mar-13 17:10:25

I love Frances and love the meaning of it being tied to your family too

zxcv123 Thu 07-Mar-13 18:21:20

What about Rosemary - that way you get two of the names you like for the price of one! And DD could have the choice of either Rose or Mary as a shortened name when she's old enough to choose.

Margaret sounds frumpish to me, but I wouldn't be put off by the association with Thatcher if you like it. But if you actually want to use Maggie on a day to day basis, why not choose another name like Margot, Marguerite etc?

Frances / Francesca are lovely names but will end up being shortened to Fran, Frankie, Fanny etc.

zxcv123 Thu 07-Mar-13 18:23:33

Meant to say I think Elisabeth is a great name, but there's probably more than a fair chance that Kate & Wills' baby will end up being called that if it's a girl. In which case it could become really popular again.

Coconutty Thu 07-Mar-13 18:27:03

Margot is nicer really can't like Mary. It's such a nothing name. I do know a Frances nn cece which is okay.

WormCanner Thu 07-Mar-13 18:31:50

I love Francis for a boy but find Frances a bit too masculine for a girl.

Rose is dull, but I like Rosanna, Rosalind and Rosamond.

Margaret is very "mumsy" to my generation, but I love Margarita.

Elizabeth is a fine classic name but I don't like most of the nn's.

Mary is a classic of course but not much used atm. I would pair it with a really flamboyant middle name. (I suppose you could do that with Rose too)

BarbieDahl Thu 07-Mar-13 18:36:46

most of these names could be on Kate and will's list - something you like might to consider

everlong Thu 07-Mar-13 19:56:37


Do you like Mirabelle?

FreedomOfTheTess Thu 07-Mar-13 20:04:12

Thanks for the comments so far.

I hadn't even thought of Rosemary, will suggest that to DH.

Not concerned about the William and Catherine thing, despite being due about the same time Catherine is, because these names are all pretty timeless.

I do really like Margot and Marguerite, but I have to think about how names go with my other childrens' names, as they're a bit more "exotic" compared to Jack, Alexander and Sarah!

wafflingworrier Thu 07-Mar-13 20:18:20

i cant imagine a grown up woman called rose, just a small child. it doesn't seem like a "strong" name to me, more like a damsel-needing rescuing type of name
i love frances but i think it means "french" which is not that interesting, also because its not so common people mayh spell it incorrectly (francis), my good friend has the problem all the time
so i like elizabeth best.

they are all lovely though, congratulations on your pregnancy!

meddie Thu 07-Mar-13 20:44:57

Maggie has too mention thatcher connections for me. maybe thats just an age related thing.
I like Elisabeth, its a good solid name, won't date, has lots of variations to choose
Lizzie, Liz, Elisa,Liza ,Beth Elspeth,Betty and my favourite version Lillibet

meddie Thu 07-Mar-13 20:45:35

too many*

bouncysmiley Sat 09-Mar-13 22:20:27

Frances definately, much more unusual than the others and very pretty. Congratulations.

mackerella Sun 10-Mar-13 09:13:51

Mary is nice (and quite underused these days) but I would worry that it sounds too much like Sarah?

I know an adult Rose (prob late 40s) whose name is short for Rosemary. It suits her fine and doesn't seem too weak or girly at all.

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