Catherine or Katherine

(89 Posts)
OooShiney Mon 25-Feb-13 16:14:43

DD has always been insistent that my bump in fact contains a kitty cat and not DC2, we haven't found out the sex but if it's a girl we've thought about C/Katherine with the nickname Kitty.

DD is Beatrice.

But don't know if we should put Catherine or Katherine on the BC... What d'ya think?

amck5700 Mon 25-Feb-13 17:32:56

I prefer the K for Katherine or even Kathleen instead smile

Sharpkat Mon 25-Feb-13 17:33:54

Definitely Katherine although I am slightly biased wink

bridgetsmum Mon 25-Feb-13 17:36:33

We have a Catherine, much prefer it spelled with a C but don't know why confused

Bluelightsandsirens Mon 25-Feb-13 17:38:24

What about Kathryn?

PixelAteMyFace Mon 25-Feb-13 17:51:34

Katherine doesn`t look right to me, I`d spell it Kathryn.

But if it was my DD I would choose Catherine - it looks prettier with a `C`

NaicePig Mon 25-Feb-13 17:53:11

I came here to say Kathryn too! By far my favourite spelling of the name. And what a sweet story to tell her about how she got her name smile

mrsnobby Mon 25-Feb-13 19:28:05

Just to add to the mix I like Katharine.

SorrelForbes Mon 25-Feb-13 19:33:48

I second Katharine (the original spelling, apparently).

BookWormery Mon 25-Feb-13 19:39:55

Nooooo HAS to be a C. It's classic.

A K looks hard, seems to sound more hard.

You could still use Kitty with Catherine.

chickabilla Mon 25-Feb-13 19:44:20


cate16 Mon 25-Feb-13 19:46:35

Catherine smile smile smile

whattodoo Mon 25-Feb-13 19:46:38

Katherine. Makes better sense of Kkitty, Kate, Katy etc.

HappyJustToBe Mon 25-Feb-13 19:47:48

I prefer Catherine.

Spoonful Mon 25-Feb-13 19:48:32

I like it with a C.

I prefer with a K, but both are beautiful names and go really nicely with Beatrice.

I prefer Catherine and think the nickname initials are a red herring. You don't spell William with a B, nor Margaret with a P.

GetOrf Mon 25-Feb-13 19:53:48

Katharine. It is the original spelling (from the greek katharos meaning pure, to be a pedantic twat about it grin).

Also the late great Katharine Hepburn spelled it so.

And it is my dd's middle name.

So completely unbiased of course wink

To me Kathryn is a very 70s variant, like Jayne, Carole or Karyn.

noddyholder Mon 25-Feb-13 19:55:07

Yes katharine one of my faves

GetOrf Mon 25-Feb-13 19:55:45

You have to be careful though. It's an oft-repeated Mumsnet baby names rule that only plebs names their children with names beginning with K.

(I am a prole with a K name grin)

WTF? How is it pleb-y to name a baby Katharine? confused

If you want to be poncey about it, Katharine is surely more correct as it's from the Greek for 'pure' and the Greek letter kappa gives us our 'k', not our 'c'.

(I owe this piece of pedantry to my mother, btw, it's not original because I'm not quite that barking mad.)

nickelbabe Mon 25-Feb-13 20:08:04

definitely Katherine.
my best friend is Katherine and it's dd's middle name.

plus all of the nicknames make more sense with a K

GetOrf Mon 25-Feb-13 20:09:01

There was a thread (or two) some time ago where people said that names beginning with K were chavvy.

Madness. I don't agree, obv.

It's mumsnet though, isn't it grin

gymboywalton Mon 25-Feb-13 20:09:31

definitely catherine

Catherine and Katharine are probably not derived from katharos anyway.

If we are going to be etymology pendants! grin

amck5700 Mon 25-Feb-13 20:17:29

The K thing I believe is where a name that normally begins with a C is replaced with a K instead i.e. Kaleb, Konner etc and not that all names beginning with a K are plebby/chavvy/schemey.

Katharine is a perfectly (lovely) legitimate name that happens to begin with a K, not the same thing at all....and not that it actually matters anyway.

amck5700 Mon 25-Feb-13 20:18:29

I, in general tend to prefer the C, however not in this case for some reason, the K is definitely nicer.

StrawberryMojito Mon 25-Feb-13 20:20:57


Catherine just seems more plain.

Geranium3 Mon 25-Feb-13 20:21:06

love catherine.........
but hate katherine!
No idea why!

Still18atheart Mon 25-Feb-13 20:27:02

Catherine imo

FatJasper Mon 25-Feb-13 20:28:45

I prefer Catherine.

Love Catherine and came to say it's traditional, innit.

But I see Get and LRD have friffing spoiled that for me. Feckers.


horatia - fair enough, I stand corrected. What do they come from?

Oops, sorry chaos. blush

But turns out we're wrong anyway, so feel free to come back and call us pig-ignorant plebs, won't you? wink

GetOrf Mon 25-Feb-13 20:40:35

Lol at chagrin.

But like LrD says we are all to cock re katharos anyway.

Unless horatia is wrong and she is just tricking us...

<Twilight zone music>

I bet she's going to cop out and tell us it's via Old Saxon or summat, getorf. hmm

<gets excuse in early>

CBuzz Mon 25-Feb-13 20:45:18

With a C - its the only way!

QueenOfCats Mon 25-Feb-13 20:45:19

Prettier spelled with a K smile

ErikNorseman Mon 25-Feb-13 20:53:13

Katherine smile the 'ar' spelling is much less common and when you have a name with so many variants it's easier to go with the more common one. Never ever Kathryn. Vom.

Sashapineapple Mon 25-Feb-13 21:44:19

Catherine or Kathryn.

IIRC it is one of those "dunno" ones, neatly back formed to a word with a pleasant meaning. Certainly my dictionary has it as an "etymology unknown; some suggest..." which is a big fat hedge.

Sorry to disappoint.

Part of my own skepticism re K- variants in English comes from looking at variants in other languages - Slavic and Celtic languages use K (because they don't use C for that sound) and Romance languages use C (because they do) so adherence to K- on etymological grounds is a bit ... unnecessary.

And even if we are all ultimately using Catherine/Katherine from Greek-for-pure then we are doing so linguistically a long way from the original.

That said, Katharine of Aragon was anglicised from Spanish Catalina (as in contemporary materials with H and K interwoven) although that may have been a contemporary fashion as Kitty Howard was also a K-.

NaicePig Mon 25-Feb-13 22:00:49

But but

Kathryn is so pretty. Agree Catherine is somehow more plain.

Thanks horatia.

It's such a pretty name, anyway. One of my favourites.

GrandPoohBah Mon 25-Feb-13 22:14:11


That's how my middle name is spelled... grin

nickelbabe Mon 25-Feb-13 22:14:30

I would like to draw your attention to my post - I said Katherine.
I thought you luffed me sad

Yes, high on my list too.

spelt properly with a C and with K nicknames muahahahahaha

Katherine seems stronger to me than Catherine. I would look at the nick names you might use and go for Katherine for Kitty or Catherine for Cathy.

mrsyattering Mon 25-Feb-13 22:21:00

how about Katharine, like me wink

Passmethecrisps Mon 25-Feb-13 22:21:55

Hmm. OP I think you might be me. In the future.

In which case I would go for either Catherine or Kathryn. Kitty is gorgeous and I can imagine having it for a potential DD2 at any cost

serin Mon 25-Feb-13 22:28:20

Catherine, I just don't like the spikeyness of a 'K'

amck5700 Mon 25-Feb-13 22:55:19

oh, and if it's a boy you are going to need to have a cat type name too.

Thomas or Felix perhaps smile

mathanxiety Tue 26-Feb-13 02:38:37

The K spelling would be my choice as it's closer to the Greek. I like Kathryn too even though it's a more recent vintage.

Horatia -- wrt Celtic languages using K -- there is no K in Irish (or Scots Gaelic that am aware of). C is always hard in Irish.

sleepywombat Tue 26-Feb-13 03:23:03

If I'd had a daughter she would've been Catherine. I think it looks softer & prettier with a C.

MidnightMasquerader Tue 26-Feb-13 04:58:43

Infinitely more elegant with a C.

Katherine is too 70s for me; Catherine more timeless. Irrational, I know!

CanIHaveAPetGiraffePlease Tue 26-Feb-13 05:19:18

Beatrice and Catherine were both names we liked. Much prefer the C version. Feels classier to me but that's obviously not universal.

GetOrf Tue 26-Feb-13 07:06:38

In any case, whatever you choose, Catherine or Katherine or KATHARINE grin it is a beautiful name and goes so well with Beatrice.

Perhaps if the baby is a boy you could call him Christopher, Kit for short.

Trazzletoes Tue 26-Feb-13 07:29:32

Catherine is my middle name but I much prefer Katharine.

I keep looking at where I've typed Catherine and it just looks weird.

beginnings Tue 26-Feb-13 07:34:16

DD is fifth generation Catherine and known as Katie so it works well. I love it as a name.

I figure Katie is a good girl name but Catherine a good grown up name.

Off to NC now as I've just completely outed myself.

Emilythornesbff Tue 26-Feb-13 07:59:11

A vote for Catherine.
Did you ever read "Anne of green gables"?
It's definitely Catherine. And can still be shortened to kitty.

Emilythornesbff Tue 26-Feb-13 08:00:28

Lovely name btw

MortifiedAdams Tue 26-Feb-13 08:03:26


Willow36 Tue 26-Feb-13 08:59:56

Catherine for me. Beautiful name.

kmark Tue 26-Feb-13 09:44:58

I am also like Katherine, which means pure

Sorry Math, I edited my post for clarity and stuck Celtic languages in the wrong place because I am a twat - oh the irony!

Bakingtins Tue 26-Feb-13 09:48:53

Katharine. It's a lovely name, but bear in mind that she will always have to spell it out, because there are so many variants. K/C? arine/erine/ryn?
At least Kitty is easy to spell!

amck5700 Tue 26-Feb-13 10:14:39

Math - that's why I have a Ciar and not a Keir - the latter being a Scots surname and the former being the original form of Ciaran. This is where I back up my claim that in general I would use a C but Katherine is an exception as I prefer it with a K smile. We thought we were using a Scottish Gaelic spelling but now think it is probably Irish....or could it be both?

NervyWervy Tue 26-Feb-13 11:42:39

My middle name is Katherine and Im named after my great auntie kitty!

monica77798 Tue 26-Feb-13 15:52:51

I think the spelling with the K is better, Katherine

Katherine.... always!

GrumpyKat Tue 26-Feb-13 21:12:28

Katherine, clearly wink

MoleRat Sun 14-Apr-13 19:20:21

Katharine/ Katherine... don't know why, I just prefer it!

LadyLech Sun 14-Apr-13 21:48:51

I have a daughter, Katherine (nn Kitty).

Whilst I much prefered the C spelling, I didn't like the possible initial confusion. I also taught a Catherine / Katy at the time, and she said she found it really annoying too.

So we went with the K spelling.

'Tis a great name, and I think my daughter is either the only Katherine at her school (there may be another, much older girl or she may have already gone up to secondary). But we don't know any other little Katherines.

thermalsinapril Sun 14-Apr-13 22:38:22

If the nickname's going to be Kitty it would make sense to have Katherine with a K.

ZZZenagain Sun 14-Apr-13 22:40:13

think I prefer the k but like both

KittenOfDoom Sun 14-Apr-13 22:41:18

The Kardashians have spoiled all K names.
"Kathryn" is an abomination though.

Weegiemum Sun 14-Apr-13 22:43:58

I've a 13 year old Katherine, usually known (by her own choice) as Kathy. Hence I'd go for the K!

raisah Mon 15-Apr-13 04:27:18

I know a Catherine known as Cate.

sashh Mon 15-Apr-13 06:10:14

What about Kathryn?

No, don't do it, not ever. Also no to Cathryn, Catheryne, Katharinne, Katharinn and any other non standard spelling.

I know Kathryn has been more popular recently but please do not lumber your child with a normal name and a ridiculous spelling.

If you give your child an unusual name then they have to spell it all the time. If you give them a normal name with a made up spelling they spend their time correcting people who have already filled half a form in.

<yes I am bitter about my name, so bitter I changed it by deed poll to the ordinary spelling>

nooka Mon 15-Apr-13 06:29:52

I like Catherine better, and I thought that with a K it was an 'a' in the middle - Katharine? One of those names that you always have to spell clearly!

I don't think that there is any particular need for nicknames to have the same initial as the full name, my family nickname is the second half of my name, and I've never even thought about that being a problem. Plus where the nn is well known it's not really thought about - think Bill, Tony, Ned, Peggy, Nancy, Liz etc etc

YoniYoniNameLeft Mon 15-Apr-13 06:50:42

I think I prefer the C way. It flows better when you write it.

The little girls in the film Dream House are called Beatrice and Katherine [useless fact] I think that they go well together. smile

OrangeLily Mon 15-Apr-13 06:57:07

I much prefer Katherine.

thistlelicker Mon 15-Apr-13 07:00:51

Cathryn ?

poshfrock Mon 15-Apr-13 07:09:03

So on MNet names spelt with a K are chavvy? How would you spell Kirsty/Kirstie/Kirsten/ Kate/ Katie then ? How ridiculous. And one of my best friends is a Kathryn.


TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 15-Apr-13 07:21:04

I prefer Catherine or how aboutChristine, nn Kitty?

<throws kitty amongst the pigeons>

LadybirdsEverywhere Mon 15-Apr-13 18:57:11

In Pride and Prejudice, Kitty's full name is Catherine with a C.

nemno Mon 15-Apr-13 19:02:42


TomArchersSausage Mon 15-Apr-13 19:06:16

I like Kath*a*rine a lot.

With a C could morph into Cath which sounds old lady.

ShadowStorm Mon 15-Apr-13 19:41:32

I like it better with a K.

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