Help! My Dad has poisoned our name......

(84 Posts)
ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 21:55:45

I need a new middle name. We had the first name Ava, middle name Florence. We both loved the name Ava Florence. I committed the cardinal sin, and told my parents our girls name. My Dad said Ava Flo, followed by Over-Flow. Dad has spoilt the name for me. My husband would still use the name, as he does not think middle names are ever used, and nobody else would come up with Over-Flow. I’m not taking the risk, the name has been tarnished.

It’s 35 weeks and we’re back to the drawing board. I should mention it took us 30 weeks to finally decide on Ava Florence, and I’m particularly difficult when it comes to names.

I have a few rules when it comes to the middle name:
- It must not end in an - a (Ava ends in an a)
- It must not end in an –ie or –y. I don’t like ie or y names.
- It must not start with a vowel, a G, or a T.
- It must be more than two syllables. Ideally I’d like a longer middle name, as we have chosen a short first name.

My husband is an inverted snob, and his rules are:
- It must not be posh or pretentious (it took me ages to convince him that Florence is a common name)
- It must not be more than three syllables

So far, we have ruled out the following names:

Ava Juliet
Ava Primrose
Ava Delphine
Ava Seraphine
Ava Constance
Ava Clarice

Your help would be hugely appreciated.

ripsishere Sun 13-Jan-13 21:59:58

TBH, I agree with your DH. Middle names just aren't used except on forms. I've certainly never called my DD XX, rather than just X.
If you are absolutely set on changing your choice, I like all of them except Primrose and Delphine.
Good luck OP.

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:02:25

Thanks, but the list of names are ones that we have ruled out. DH does not like any of them except for Clarice, and I'm not keen on Clarice.

I cannot get past Over-Flow, so Ava Florence, is now a no no. I loved it prior to my Dad's comment.

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:03:19

I agree middle names are not used, but I still want a pretty middle name, that flows with our other names. It matters to me.

PelvicFloorClenchReminder Sun 13-Jan-13 22:04:42

Could you have Florence Ava instead?

forgetmenots Sun 13-Jan-13 22:07:27

Here are a few for a start OP, although I really would pay your dad no heed. Ava Florence is lovely. Can I ask, have you ruled out some of your list because DH thinks they are posh? Might help other posters!

Ava Beatrice
Ava Catherine
Ava Charlotte
Ava Francine
Ava Helene
Ava Hermione (may be breaking an ending rule, and posh rule!)
Ava Jasmine
Ava Juniper
Ava Jacqueline
Ava Janine
Ava Katrine
Ava Kirsten
Ava Louise
Ava Lauren (very 50s film star to me!)
Ava Linden
Ava Marcheline
Ava Martine
Ava Margaret
Ava Michelle
Ava Nadine
Ava Nicole
Ava Pauline
Ava Penelope
Ava Rachel
Ava Rosaline
Ava Roxanne
Ava Seren
Ava Sandrine
Ava Susanne
Ava Vivienne

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:07:40

No, we both love the name Ava. I know it's popular, but don't mind. It sounds fab with our surname too.

ratbagcatbag Sun 13-Jan-13 22:07:57

Ava savannah (ok slightly a sounding end)
Ava Charlotte
Ava brogan
Ava Sophia

Ava Cecile?

PelvicFloorClenchReminder Sun 13-Jan-13 22:10:17


Ava Madeleine/Madeline?

SminkoPinko Sun 13-Jan-13 22:10:38

Ava Marianne
Ava Elizabeth
Ava Katherine
Ava Caroline
Ava Eleanor
Ava Josephine

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:11:16

The names were too posh, apart from Clarice, which DH likes, but I don't. I tend to prefer the names DH would describe as posh.

forgetmenots Sun 13-Jan-13 22:11:47

Love Ava Caroline sminko, I imagine that to be the name of a new princess in Monaco or something. Beautiful.

nbee84 Sun 13-Jan-13 22:12:32

Ava Virginnia
Ava Heather
Ava Beatrice
Ava Gwennan

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:12:40

I love Ava Madeleine, but I don't think I could use Madeleine without Madeleine McCann coming to my mine.

ineedanewmiddlename Sun 13-Jan-13 22:13:57

I'm off to bed now, but given me something to chat over with DH. Will log on again tomorrow morning.

ZenNudist Sun 13-Jan-13 22:16:22

Ava Marie? Classic.

Liked Ava nicole from list above

Ava Colette?

Think anything too long with short name is odd.

NotInMyDay Sun 13-Jan-13 22:16:46

Ava Colette

Ava Catherine

Ava Elizabeth

Ava Tèrese

VBisme Sun 13-Jan-13 22:17:27

Ava Frances?

I think Ava Florence is lovely, but if you're really against it I think Frances is a lovely name for a girl, (and not posh).

NotInMyDay Sun 13-Jan-13 22:17:37

Wow Zen get out of my head. I think Ava Colette is beautiful.

ravenAK Sun 13-Jan-13 22:19:53

Ava Mathilde?

NonnoMum Sun 13-Jan-13 22:20:32

'Ava Banana?

That didn't help much, did it?

NonnoMum Sun 13-Jan-13 22:21:18

I think Ava Florence is lovely.

SoggySummer Sun 13-Jan-13 22:22:52

Ava Frances?

Ava Frances
Ava Beatrice
Ava Harriet
Ava Genevieve
Ava Camille
Ava Imogen
Ava Merle
Ava Claudette
Ava Rosamund

cosykins Sun 13-Jan-13 22:27:00

Ava Felicity?

Ava Elizabeth sounds lovely.

MmeLindor Sun 13-Jan-13 22:28:57

I have been so confused by your list of rules, that I can't think of a decent suggestion.

Why don't you just try out some names, and see if you like them, rather than sticking to the rules? Doesn't that make it awfully complicated.

<snort> at Ava Banana

mumsywoo78 Sun 13-Jan-13 23:15:34

Ava june
Ava rose
or maybe even give her your name as her middle name u never know it may even start a new trend! smile

BlueBowTie Sun 13-Jan-13 23:37:08

Ava Frances,
Ava Lily,
Ava May,
Ava Calypso,
Ava Cleo,
Ava Kate,
Ava Rosalind?

RedLentil Sun 13-Jan-13 23:51:45

Ava Florence is a lovely name. smile

The first time my mum met my dh he mentioned he had been called 'timburke-too' at school, and she said. 'God! And all those people shouting 'timber!' at you like you we're a lumberjack.'

After a long pause dh confessed that she was the first and only person to think of that version of his name. grin

I suspect your dad may be similarly on his own with his theory ...

amck5700 Mon 14-Jan-13 00:16:06

I know it doesn't fit any of your criteria, but Ava Jane sounds lovely

chroniclackofimagination Mon 14-Jan-13 01:00:04

I love Ava Elizabeth. That would have been DS2's name had he been a girl..

Ava Margot?
Ava Francine?
Ava Petra?
Ava Georgina?

Yamyoid Mon 14-Jan-13 01:13:47

My mum made a comment about the name I was thinking about for dd which really put me off; it was a rhyme. But it was the only name Dh and I agreed on and I think I'd already named her in my head. So we went with it any way and now I'm glad we did. Try and put it out of your mind, perhaps? Ava Florence is lovely.

PuffPants Mon 14-Jan-13 01:15:42

It really doesn't matter. Hardly anyone outside of her family will ever know or care what her middle name is. Use it to honour a female relative instead. A grandmother or great-aunt. I think it's nice for children to carry family names.

lollydollydrop Mon 14-Jan-13 01:29:54

I agree with OP in that I dont think I could get it out my head.. my dad is a massive joker and I think he would actually resort to calling the child 'Over-Flow' at times just to be 'funny'!!! Could you talk to your dad about how you feel? I would urge you not to act in haste/emotion and do something now that you regret later.. Is there any special connection to the name Florence? Did you check the initials dont refer to anything awful?

I love Ava Elizabeth- classic.

mum2day Mon 14-Jan-13 08:02:43

Ignore your DF for goodness sake! Go with the name you liked. If not...

Ava Biscuit (very mumsnet)

Ava Cuppatea.

Ava Barney (named after the row with your dad)

fuckadoodlepoopoo Mon 14-Jan-13 08:06:00

I think you are being a bit silly about not using the name you like, it will soon enough fade from your mind what your dad said.

ILikeSquirrels Mon 14-Jan-13 08:22:05

Ava Constance
Ava Jennifer
Ava Nicole (Nicolette)
Ava Kathleen

JimbosJetSet Mon 14-Jan-13 08:26:32

Ava Violet?

emblosion Mon 14-Jan-13 14:07:49

Ava Rose
Ava Louise
Ava Jane

But if you love Ava Florence, use it!

emblosion Mon 14-Jan-13 14:09:04

Ava Gardner was Ava Lavinia btw...

delilah88 Mon 14-Jan-13 14:10:02

Ava Jane is gorgeous!

delilah88 Mon 14-Jan-13 14:11:26

And Ava Louise. Could be called Ava - Lou (but that leads back to your dreaded plumbing/toilets theme!)

What about a weirder middle name, like Ava Star or Ava Spring? Ava May, Ava June?

DontmindifIdo Mon 14-Jan-13 14:16:25

How about 2 middle names, so something between Ava and Florence?

How about:
Ava Ruth Florence
Ava Jane Florence
Ava Grace Florence
Ava Joy Florence

I know what you mean about ruining it, this is why nothing will be said to my parents about name choices until it's a done deal.

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 18:46:20

I can’t get Over Flow out of my head. So Florence is a no no.

I did think about Ava Rose Florence, but DH thinks two middle names pretentious, and a pain in filling forms.

We’d discussed honouring a family member, but couldn’t agree on a family member, and one who’s name we liked. We decided to just choose a pretty name.

The list of rules, was just an idea I had last night. I agree the list is very anal. I loved Florence, and I loved the –ence ending, and how it sounded with Ava and our surname. I do dislike –ie and –y endings, I’m not sure why. G and T avoided due to our surname. As I was going through name lists, I found myself disliking –a ending names with Ava, and vowel names with Ava. It sounds worse, when I try to explain myself!

I have had another think about names, and I do like Ava Rosanna. Yes it breaks the –a ending name rule. I’m nothing if not contrary. blush

I’ve not broached Ava Rosanna with my husband yet. He’s not back from work, and after speaking to him on the phone, he’s had a rubbish day, so I might leave it till he’s in a better mood. I suspect he’ll consider it posh, but I might try persisting, like I did with Florence.

I don’t like his choice of boys middle names, but happy for him to have this name (DH’s father figure was his maternal Grandad, who he loved and adored. Losing his Grandad was like loosing a parent, and he’s always wanted to honour his Grandad. Although his Grandad had a name on the lines of Ernest, I couldn’t possibly say no. We even changed one of the first names we liked, as the initials spelt MEG).

wiltingfast Mon 14-Jan-13 19:02:37

Ava Diane?

Anonymumous Mon 14-Jan-13 20:06:47

If you're prepared to break the 'a-ending' rule, how about Ava Miranda? That flows beautifully to my mind.

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 22:04:16

Well DH does not like Ava Rosanna.

I'm going to try out Ava Coraline, see what response that gets.

petitdonkey Mon 14-Jan-13 22:07:10

I have an Ava Lydia which is a combination that I haven't seen suggested and I like because they don't flow into each other too much if that makes sense.

Emandlu Mon 14-Jan-13 22:12:11

Ava Charlotte
Ava Petrina
Ava Galatea
Ava Rachel

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 22:24:03

Names very easily have associations for me, and I have a lot of relations. Rachel, Charlotte and Catherine are all cousins names for instance. It makes it much more difficult.

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 22:24:38

Tempted to just play safe with Ava Frances.

amck5700 Mon 14-Jan-13 22:28:13

Noooooo - it has to be Ava Jane - honest grin it sounds the best!

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 22:28:36

I had a great aunt who was called Frances, and she was very nice. Hmm.

ineedanewmiddlename Mon 14-Jan-13 22:31:29

No, my sister's called Jane.

Tigerbomb Mon 14-Jan-13 23:24:41

Ava Marie or is that to close to Ava Maria?

lottiegarbanzo Mon 14-Jan-13 23:39:32

Rosalind, or rosemary? Camille, violet?

I like Florence and jokers like your dad will come up with some unfunny forced 'joke' about any name, unfortunately.

Jessicatx1 Sun 20-Jan-13 06:02:20

Hey Im using Ava as a name if i have a girl, its such a difficult name to choose something that fits in nice. I personally am torn between:
Ava Lily
Ava Grace
Ava Imogen
Ava Joyce
Ava Rosalie
Ava Willow

But still I think even one of those aren't perfect. Such a pretty name aswell sad

sleepywombat Sun 20-Jan-13 07:05:17

I love Ava Frances

hawkmcqueen Sun 20-Jan-13 08:36:05

OP, you have your name already, you spent 30 weeks choosing it and you are very pregnant which messes with your emotions. I reckon you will regret not using Florence if you do replace it. Ava Florence is her name it looks like to me, people will chastise you for a million reasons, I would not change her name because of one (very)) silly comment. That's all!

DontmindifIdo Sun 20-Jan-13 09:42:48

If your dad is the type who thinks he is terribly funny, don't go for Ava Marie or he will sing Ava Maria in a "taking the piss out of you" way. Just don't give him ammunition!

Thing is if you have a cousin or sister with a name that you want for the middle name, say that you are giving your DD that name in their honour. You don't have to be actually doing it, but it stops people thinking you've nicked a name !

iamabadger Sun 20-Jan-13 09:49:08

Is a middle name really worth this much angst? I don't have one and have never felt deprived. If you love Florence stick with it and surely you could just introduce her to everyone as Ava when she arrives? Or just don't even bother with a middle name.

LittleDonkin Sun 20-Jan-13 10:29:28

If you like the "ence" ending how about Ava Cadence

Snazzynewyear Sun 20-Jan-13 11:03:44

If you like the -ence ending, then Ava Constance sounds lovely I think. I also love Ava Catherine - it's a very classless name so might work for both you and your husband. To differentiate either from your relative use either the C or K spelling, whichever they don't.

Having said that, I agree that it's a real shame to let your dad put you off the name you have set your heart on. Keep thinking of alternatives but I wouldn't write off Ava Florence altogether.

dgift Sun 20-Jan-13 11:03:46

I think
Ava Gift is great or Ava Mechellen.

Snazzynewyear Sun 20-Jan-13 11:06:06

Argh, just read your OP back and you've ruled out Constance already! Oh well.

Frances is very pretty. It makes a good middle name I think - I would consider Catherine Frances if having a girl.

TickleMyTitsTillFriday Sun 20-Jan-13 12:29:24

I think Ava Frances sounds beautiful

Ilovecheeseandlovinglife Mon 21-Jan-13 18:53:05

I'm sorry your dad ruined the name for you. As soon as we announced our daughters name, Fern, my uncle thought it was the most hilarious name ever.. I'm sure he would have found a common name like Anne hilarious too, the knob.

Ava Beatrice
Ava harriet
Ava Eleanor
Ava Bethany
Ava Marie

All the best! Xx

iheartmycat Tue 22-Jan-13 00:20:54

Ava Cadence
Ava Marie
Ava Sunshine smile
Ava Helen
Ava Heather
Ava Ruby

thegreylady Tue 22-Jan-13 19:33:33

Ava Charlotte
Ava Lucy
Ava Harriet
Ava Josephine

CharlieBoo Tue 22-Jan-13 19:49:53

I would use Florence too.. You are full of crazy hormones right now and over flow is nothing like Ava Florence at all IMO. I think it will always be in your mind if you don't use it. All the best.

ZolaBuddleia Tue 22-Jan-13 20:00:00

I still don't get how Ava translates to 'over'. Are you pronouncing it Ay-va, or Avva?

I also think it will always be in your mind if you don't use it.

I love Ava Michelle.

Yfronts Wed 23-Jan-13 17:27:51

Ava Clementine

Tincletoes Wed 23-Jan-13 21:16:19

I know it breaks your vowel rule, but I think Ava Eloise is pretty

Cadence? As in the micro-chip design software? grin

mathanxiety Fri 25-Jan-13 04:49:12

Ava Katherine
Ava Naomi
Ava Noelle
Ava Simone
Ava Hope
Ava Jasmine

anonymosity Fri 25-Jan-13 05:16:57

Do you NEED a middle name?

Alligatorpie Fri 25-Jan-13 05:25:30

Ava Charlotte is lovely
Ava Frances
Ava Simone

Raeray Fri 25-Jan-13 05:57:26

How about
Ava Alice
Ava Ellen
Ava Isobel
Ava Edith

Know they're vowels but maybe worth a consideration!

Also how about Ava Renee to keep a little of Florence lettering in her middle name?

Rosa Fri 25-Jan-13 06:20:36

What about Eva ?

emblosion Fri 25-Jan-13 07:55:09

Ooo I like Ava Renee!

Was popping back to say I like Ava Frances too.

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