Really like Henry but already have a Harry - help!

(133 Posts)
Spellcheck Sat 05-Jan-13 10:32:33

Please can I have some opinions on this! Expecting my DC4 (DP's 1st) in a few weeks. It's a boy, and we are really stuck for names. I am a teacher and therefore most names remind me of some of the children I teach so I don't want them as they are already 'taken' IYSWIM. The only name we really, really like is Henry.

However, my first son is Harry. It's a name in it's own right, I didn't call him Henry and shorten it, so surely as they will both have different surnames, it would be ok to call DS2 Henry?? Some friends have called the idea into question, and now I've thought about it so much I can't think straight.

What would you think if a friend did it? Or should I say sod what everyone thinks and go for it anyway?

Oh go for it. Not many people I know would realise that Harry is actually short for Henry.
Both lovely names wink

mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 10:34:07

I wouldn't think anything if a friend did it and I love the name Henry so I'd just go for it! Henry & Harry sounds good together imo!

mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 10:35:16

And YY to purple - I didn't know for years that Harry was a shortening for Henry (how is it a shortening anyway with the same amount of letters???!).

saffronwblue Sat 05-Jan-13 10:36:17

I think it is the same name, but I am a random person on the internet to you, so I think you should go with what you and your DP want.

Welovecouscous Sat 05-Jan-13 10:36:18

I wouldn't do this - too similar, sorry.

Go for Henry as a mn

ISpyPlumPie Sat 05-Jan-13 10:46:09

Honestly? I wouldn't but there were quite a few generations of Henrys-known-as-Harrrys further back in my family so maybe that skews my opinion and I know Harry has become a name in it's own right since then. Still essentially the same name to me though, but both versions are lovely.

louloutheshamed Sat 05-Jan-13 10:48:32

I have a Henry and to me Harry is vv similar, it would be like having a Katherine and a Katie or an Elizabeth and a Beth.

seeker Sat 05-Jan-13 10:50:30

It's the same name. As any fan of the royal family will tell you.

happystory Sat 05-Jan-13 10:56:03

I wouldn't do it. Don't think your ds1 will thank you for it when he's older

MoetEtPantsOn Sat 05-Jan-13 10:57:02

Do as you like (Henry is a great name) but bear in mind that reactions through life will be same as on this thread and with your friends. There will always be people who think that you have two sons with the same name and others who don't.

lockets Sat 05-Jan-13 10:58:24

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Well I suppose Jack and John are the same name and I wouldnt think that was odd.

Harry and Henry are too similar sounding for me - its almost like having Harry and a dd called Harriett

MorrisZapp Sat 05-Jan-13 11:02:11

I wouldn't, sorry. They are the same name.

HappyNewBleurgh Sat 05-Jan-13 11:04:06

I think they're too alike, but probably because I know they are the same name. I'd also make the John/Jack connection as well.

I view them as the 'same' name as well, sorry. Henry is great though!

wigglesrock Sat 05-Jan-13 11:07:54

Its the same name, I have always known Harry as a nickname for Henry. I would equate it with using Danny and Daniel.

CheeseStrawWars Sat 05-Jan-13 11:12:23

I think it's the same name but also bear in mind:

Letters will be address to "Mr/Master H Smith" - how do you tell whose post is whose?

Yelling "Henry!" or "Harry!" in park or wherever - hard to tell which name you're calling, from the child's point of view. Confusing for all concerned.

QOD Sat 05-Jan-13 11:13:51

I know someone with Bryan and Ryan ... Go for it!

NotLongUntilXmas Sat 05-Jan-13 11:15:01

I didn't realise they were the same name, but then I accidentally named two of my DDs with the same name, one is the French version.

Clary Sat 05-Jan-13 11:17:23

Harry is a diminutive for Henry - Prince Harry is actually called Henry, and Henry VIII ws known as Prince Harry or Prince Hal as a young man.

So on that basis I think it's the same as calling your children Billy and William. I woudn't do it myself.

lottiegarbanzo Sat 05-Jan-13 11:20:27

They are the same name but Harry has become a very common name in its own right in recent years and I imagine many Harrys and their parents don't even know it's the same.

What is the age difference between the two boys? If it's large, they may not actually spend a lot of time together as the years go on and will have different friends and acquaintances. With a different surname they certainly won't be confused and only family will necessarily know they are brothers. That's a reason to go for it.

There may be a sense though, that you appear to be 'starting again' with a new family with the new DP, disregarding what went before. That may not be what you wish to convey.

In the end, do whatever you want, of course.

almapudden Sat 05-Jan-13 11:24:44

I woukdnt. It's the same name. Equally, I wouldn't have a Jack and a John, or an Emily and an Amelia.

AuntieShirley Sat 05-Jan-13 11:33:22

I am afraid I see them as the same name too. I don't even think they are similar. They are the same name. There must be something else you like?

mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 11:57:28

Ignore these old fashioned idiots - call your son's what you like - if someone can't hear the difference between the two they should be calling their GP for a hearing test appointment!

mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 11:58:40

Bugger, in my irritation I added a 'panic' apostrophe in sons!

seeker Sat 05-Jan-13 12:06:41

So Elizabeth and Beth is fine? Sam and Samuel?

cece Sat 05-Jan-13 12:07:26

I know someone with two sons - William and Billy,

Go for it I say if it really is the only name you can agree on.

Clary Sat 05-Jan-13 12:07:45

LOL @ Sam and Samual. I know someone who called their children Luke and Lucy which I thought was a bit odd!

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 12:07:46

Don't do it. It's the same name. I agree with the Daniel/Danny analogy.

sleepyhead Sat 05-Jan-13 12:08:09

I'd have thought there was a fair chance that your son Henry would get the nickname Harry at some point.

Clary Sat 05-Jan-13 12:08:35

Doh! Samu*e*l of course. William and Billy for brothers, really???

SuperChristmasScrimper Sat 05-Jan-13 12:09:10

Oh my God please don't do this. There are so many names out there, why let your existng son think he is so unimportant that you gave another child what most people will consider to be the proper version of his name!

Mosman Sat 05-Jan-13 12:15:55

It's the same name IMO I'd think it very strange.

MardyBra Sat 05-Jan-13 12:16:24

I would smile and nod, but secretly laugh at you.

bigkidsdidit Sat 05-Jan-13 12:18:33

I would think it was very odd.

SuperChristmasScrimper Sat 05-Jan-13 12:19:29

Mardy, I don't think I'd be able to swallow the laugh down tbh!

SirBoobAlot Sat 05-Jan-13 12:23:40

I wouldn't do it. And if someone told me they had a Harry and a Henry, I would look at them like they were mad. And would regularly get confused as to which child they were actually talking about.

susiedaisy Sat 05-Jan-13 12:24:27

I know someone who has done this and they were completely unaware that it is suppose to be the same name, but tbh not many people under the age of 25 even realise the names are connected as Harry has become a popular name in its own right, it was the older generation that thought it was odd, anyway the kids are now 10 and 14 and no one mentions it all! So I would say do it if you want!

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 05-Jan-13 12:27:15

I wouldn't do it.

It's like having an Ian and a John. Or an Elizabeth and a Bethan.

Also,everyone will be reminded that Harry is a nickname for Henry as Prince Harry takes on more official royal duties and is called Prince Henry,as he was at his Olypmic appearance.

Harry was a standalone name originally,Welsh,spelt Harri. But I think even fewer people know that! Henry VIII was known as Harry before he became King <history nerd alert>

SirBoobAlot Sat 05-Jan-13 12:28:16

Bryan and Ryan? William and Billy? Sam and Samuel? SERIOUSLY?

Do people not actually think about sibling name combinations... Blimey.

Viviennemary Sat 05-Jan-13 12:29:48

It's the same name. So I wouldn't. It will cause endless confusion.

AgathaTrunchbull Sat 05-Jan-13 12:38:53

Agree with all those above who know they're the same name. Once knew a whole family of siblings with names based on Charles, i.e. Chaz, Carl, Charlie, Charlotte. It's daft.

lockets Sat 05-Jan-13 12:59:33

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mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 13:06:15

But they're not really the same name these days are they? I was being a bit bombastic saying old fashioned idiots and for that I am sorry, but they are two different sounding names - even if traditionally Harry was a less formal nickname for a Henry - and IMO it is not a 'shortened version' either given they have the same number of letters and syllables. You can't really compare it to Sam and Samuel, or Elizabeth and Beth. Harry has no N or Eh sounds in it and Henry has no 'A' sound.

lockets Sat 05-Jan-13 13:14:33

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Clary Sat 05-Jan-13 13:15:19

So Elizabeth and Libby (for example) would be OK on that principle then Mrscog? hmm

Clary Sat 05-Jan-13 13:16:15

Ahh Lockets, Cassius is getting an unfair slating on another baby names thread, go stand up for it grin

GuffSmuggler Sat 05-Jan-13 13:21:05

I agree with others that say this will upset your first DS.

It is hard enough for older siblings when a new baby comes into the mix without one feeling it's been given the same name as him and people WILL say this to him whatever you think.

mrscog Sat 05-Jan-13 13:25:16

Yeah probably - I would think that one was slightly strange, but not particularly - especially if you used Elizabeth in full all the time for the 1 DC. Or Lizzy and Libby - I'd think it sounded really cute!

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 05-Jan-13 13:27:27

lockets two of Lucien Freuds sons are called Francis and Frank. By different mothers but nonetheless very odd!

lockets Sat 05-Jan-13 13:29:40

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Alisvolatpropiis Sat 05-Jan-13 13:34:56

Yes! And there's a daughter called Georgina/Georgia.

I was reading about Charles II the other day,of his 8 illegitimate children he had four sons named Charles and a daughter named Charlotte. Think two of the sons called Charles were by the same mother as well hmm

lockets Sat 05-Jan-13 13:36:12

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DontmindifIdo Sat 05-Jan-13 13:45:00

very odd, as most people do realise they are the same name - not helped with a Prince Henry known as Prince Harry being a high profile case of it.

I'd avoid also because they are so samey and it's a bit like you couldn't be bothered to think of a name just for your DS2, rather than just giving him a variation of his big brother's name. He's going to be a person in his own right, give him his own name.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 05-Jan-13 13:45:26

Exactly! grin

Ephiny Sat 05-Jan-13 13:52:23

I wouldn't. Even aside from the nickname issue, they're just too similar IMO. Both 5 letter names where the first and last-two letters are the same? I wouldn't be confused as such, but I'd find it a bit odd.

TameGaloot Sat 05-Jan-13 14:07:19

Another vote for
They're the same name
I wouldn't do John and Jack either
I wouldn't even have a Margot and a Daisy

What about if 'Henry' wanted to go by Harry when he's a bit older? There are several boys at DS1's (13) school who are called Henry, but go by Harry, including one of DS1's friends. DS's friend says he prefers Harry as it's more informal/relaxed, whereas Henry is his 'posh formal name'.

Your potential Henry wouldn't have that choice. Well actually he would, but it would mean you'd have two sons known as Harry!

thegreylady Sat 05-Jan-13 14:50:36

I'd ask your ds1 and if he doesnt mind go for it.
I know when dh and I thought we were having a baby 23 years ago we were talking about names and wanted Thomas [the full name] however dss1 who is Tom was distraught at the idea and we abandoned it-we werent expecting anyway and never did have a joint dc.

I met someone a few years ago who had two sons called Henry and Harry. Every time I saw her, all I could think about was the fact that she had unwittingly given her two children the same name. To do this knowingly would be completely incomprehensible to me.

If you like the name Henry so much, perhaps you could give it as a middle name. It would look like a sort of homage to your DS1.

forgottenpassword Sat 05-Jan-13 15:04:31

I wouldn't do this as I think it could be frustrating for your boys. It is them who will have to live with the confusion if there is any so I think better not to take the risk. Perhaps they won't mind but why take the risk?

everlong Sat 05-Jan-13 15:10:44

My niece has a Henry and Harry. It's never been a problem.

I wouldn't have chosen them together though.

TidyDancer Sat 05-Jan-13 15:11:05

I really wouldn't do it.

The majority of people will make the connection with them being the same name, especially with Prince Harry being the most famous example of this.

It's a shame as I like both Harry and Henry. DP and I are TTC and Henry is firmly on our boy list.

SuperChristmasScrimper Sat 05-Jan-13 15:38:41

I think this must be like a reverse AIBU... I bet the husband has suggested it grin I just can't really imagine a fully grown woman, and a teacher to boot who must know how children are with names really thinking it would be a good idea to give her 2 sons pretty much the same name. Especially as she is the Mother of both so would know how weird/hurtful it would be for her DS1.

So my bet is she will back on to say she wrote it to prove to her husband that it was a crazy idea!

bananaramma Sat 05-Jan-13 15:42:57

Harry is a nickname for Henry. I would not name my son Henry if I already have a Harry!! How would Harry feel if his little brother got his name (whereas he 'only' got the nickname version)? I honestly wouldn't - there must be another name you like.

Astley Sat 05-Jan-13 15:51:42

My 2 cents is that as a parent to a Henry it is one of my greatest regrets. I kick myself everytime I see the class list, he is one of 5 in his class sad I am so very, very annoyed with myself that I didn't pick something else, I hate that he is the 'Sarah' of his generation. I can think of so many other names now! The other day I even had someone say 'oh great, another Henry' and I realised I am that person with no imagination sad

Secondly we don't shorten, but DD can't say Henry even at 2 1/2 and says 'Harry', so if we had a Harry too, that would be seriously weird.

AlexanderS Sat 05-Jan-13 15:57:13

They come from the same root and for that reason I couldn't. I know somebody who has called their DDs Ellie and Ella and when I posted about that on here to find out if I was the only one who finds that a bit shock the unanimous verdict was that they are essentially the same name (as they are both derived from Eleanor), it was kinda lazy/uncreative and it isn't fair on the kids.

There are thousands of names out there, you will find another one you like!

Astley Sat 05-Jan-13 15:58:58

Yeah that is it, it feels a bit lazy, like you only read one page of the baby name book grin

It's the same name IMHO.

littleacceb Sat 05-Jan-13 16:08:02

Obviously you are making the decision with full understanding of the situation, but it's tricky because to use both names might imply a lack of knowledge on your part, which can be embarrassing for children as they grow up.

Not quite the same, but... We're considering Margaret but our dog is named Meg and it's making me feel slightly uncomfortable.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 05-Jan-13 16:17:48

littleacceb I know what you mean there. Have a dog called Milly and it recently dawned on me I can never use Camilla now. Sigh. DP was delighted when I mentioned it though! <sigh>

I think you could get away with Margaret though,she could be Maggie/Mags rather than Meg?

DS1 is Jack, at the time I didn't like John, but over the last few years I've grown to LOVE the name John.

However, I would never use it, because however different the names might look and sound, Jack derived from John and therefore is the same name (so to speak).

littleacceb Sat 05-Jan-13 16:59:45

@Alisvolatpropiis - DH charmingly pointed out that Meg probably only has another 8-10 years on her, so it's ok. Way to make a pregnant woman cry...

We'd probably shorten to Maggie, but it's actually just dawned on me this moment that Maggie is my aunt's dog's name. Oh well, what with my husband and my mum's dog sharing a name, it can just become our family tradition or something!

@TessOfTheBaublevilles - very good point! Just thinking of a well-spoken Henry at school who was devastated at being called "posh" and insisted that everyone call him Harry. Last I saw on FB, he goes by Henry as an adult.

Oooh my dd is called Meg! Love it!

Ephiny Sat 05-Jan-13 17:02:17

I think it's a bit different if its a dog - it's not like Milly/Meg the dog is going to be upset by having the diminutive version of another family member's name! Also, it's not really a big deal to change a dog's name if you really want to.

And yes, sadly dogs are not with us for very long, if you think long-term sad

nkf Sat 05-Jan-13 17:05:41

I think one is a nickname for the other. So if a friend did it, I'd think she didn't know many boys' names. But, sod what everyone else thinks and doing it anyway is a perfectly valid choice of action.

Spellcheck Sat 05-Jan-13 17:42:36

Thanks for ALL feedback - as it happens Harry is 13 and came up with Henry himself for DS2! He sees the names as entirely separate, and Harry as a name in its own right, though he knows Harry is sometimes used as a derivative of Henry, so no need for rude comments re him being hurt, etc. All of us are having a say in the choosing of Baby's name. You've all brought up opinions we'd considered, but always good to get objective opinions because as I said in my OP, we just can't think straight about it any more!

Thanks again y'all.

DontmindifIdo Sat 05-Jan-13 18:59:21

Thing is, at 13 your ds is too young to get they are the same name, but he won't always be! Honestly, pick your ds2 a name of his own.

StellaNova Sat 05-Jan-13 19:18:39

The thing is, even if you don't think they are the same name - and I can see how opinions change, Sally used to be short for Sarah I believe but we'd probably see them as different names now - Henry may get nicknamed Harry later in life. So its like having a Charles and a Charlotte and ending up with two Charlies, or a Phillip and a Phyllis and ending up with two Phils.

Having said that there are twins in an Enid Blyton book called "the two Harries" because they are Henry and Harriet, so Enid is behind you, and in the end its up to you of course!

LittleDonkin Sat 05-Jan-13 21:08:55

I have never heard of Harry being used as a nickname for Henry and assumed they were standalone names. I wouldnt think it was strange at all.

ArtigeneAuberchoke Sat 05-Jan-13 21:41:30

My DD1 is 6. There are two boys called Harry in her class, both are Henry on official documents so I would strongly argue it is not old fashioned to see it as the same name.

Rhubarbgarden Sat 05-Jan-13 22:40:12

I would assume someone who called their children Harry and Henry was rather uneducated. I don't mean to be rude by that - it's what I would privately think.

MummytoKatie Sun 06-Jan-13 00:26:20

I agree with the poster who said that with Prince Harry taking on more duties we are going to hear him be called Henry a lot.

Incidentally dd is Katie short for Katherine. When we named her a lot of people were slightly surprised that we bothered with the Katherine. But since William and Kate got married it is pretty much assumed she is K/Catherine.

sleepywombat Sun 06-Jan-13 00:39:39

I think you should go for it.

My great aunts (sisters) are Peggy and Margaret. Not uneducated in the slightest; both Cambridge graduates.
I know siblings Henry & Harriet (2 yrs apart), from pretty well-to-do family. Nobody bats an eyelid.

I just assume parents liked the name(s)!

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Sun 06-Jan-13 00:40:09

I agree with Rhubarbgarden blush

But that aside - even if they weren't essentially the 'same name' I think they are just far too similar looking/sounding to use and that you are completely lacking in imagination.

Millions of names out there - I'm sure you can find something else. Buy a couple of baby name books and get circling!

onedev Sun 06-Jan-13 00:54:55

I agree with Rhubarbgarden also, sorry!

MyLittleAprilSunshine Sun 06-Jan-13 01:06:28

Maybe not.humphrey but not Henry.

Alisvolatpropiis Sun 06-Jan-13 01:12:52

Ephiny it's true that Milly the dog wouldn't be bothered but Camilla nn Milly by her peers might. So I couldn't do it.

Are you American OP?

Maryz Sun 06-Jan-13 01:14:35

Michael Jackson and George Foreman did it.

Do you want them as role models?

Does your Harry really not know that Harry is historically a nickname for Henry? That's mad - it would be like a Katy not knowing that her name was related to Catherine, or a Beth not knowing their name came from Elizabeth.

AuntyAnna Sun 06-Jan-13 01:14:59

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Maryz Sun 06-Jan-13 01:17:40

Wow, I've just googled George Foreman grin

Foreman has 11 children, and each of his five sons is named George: George Jr., George III, George IV, George V and George VI. His four younger sons are distinguished from one another by the nicknames "Monk," "Big Wheel," "Red" and "Little Joey." Also of issue in his marriage are two daughters named Natalia and Leola. He also has three daughters from a separate relationship: Michi, Freeda and Georgetta. He also adopted a daughter, Isabella Brandie Lilja (Foreman), in 2009.

I feel a bit sorry for his daughters, tbh.

confuddledDOTcom Sun 06-Jan-13 01:19:46

I had a debate with my husband who wanted to give our son the male version of our second daughter's name. It's not obvious because they're not English names and sound totally different (unlike the English versions) but I couldn't do it. He said as they're so different it doesn't matter because no one will know unless they know what those names mean but I would know and that's the most important thing!

I definitely couldn't do Henry and Harry!

ZooAnimals Sun 06-Jan-13 01:20:05

It wouldn't bother me that they're the same name. They're not the same. Henry and Henry are the same. Harry and Harry are the same. Henry and Harry are clearly not the same, one can be used as a nn for the other, one is derivative of the other, but they're not the same.

I think they sound too similar though.

williaminajetfighter Sun 06-Jan-13 01:39:45

Why not? Friend has a Henry but as often is the case he goes by derivative of Hank or sometimes Hal.

If you like the sound of Henry you could always take off the H and create a whole new, just slightly different name. Enry? Enrique? Enron? shock

Musomathsci Sun 06-Jan-13 01:42:48

Could you use Henry for a middle name?

If you are stuck for ideas, perhaps you could fix on a particular starting initial? My kids' initials make a 'team name' that we sometimes use when referring them to collectively, signing cards and so on. They seem to like it...

Lighthousekeeping Sun 06-Jan-13 01:43:29

I wouldn't. My friend has just called her baby Hugo would you consider something like that? I also have two pregnant friends who have chosen Henry. It's getting popular.

SwedishEdith Sun 06-Jan-13 01:53:00

Aside from them being the same name, it'd be a bit like having a Lenny and a Larry - just too cutesy.

I honestly wouldn't let a 13 year old have too much say in a name - my favourite name at 13 was Kevin.

ZooAnimals Sun 06-Jan-13 02:11:58

Kevin is a perfectly reasonable name surely?

If your favourite name when you were 13 was Sundance or Moon Unit you might have a point.

SomersetONeil Sun 06-Jan-13 07:48:30

<brutally honest warning alert>

If I met two brothers called Harry and Henry, I would snigger and (inwardly) judge their parents. And probably go home and regale DH at their dimwittedness... :-/ <not proud of self>

Sorry, but there it is. blush

seeker Sun 06-Jan-13 07:58:04

I do think of all the bizarre "you use the name if you love it, hun, your baby your choice" type threads, this one of the most bizarre.

Hugh and Hugo, anyone? Matilda and Tilly? Alison and Alice?

legalalien Sun 06-Jan-13 08:08:36

With all this talk of Henry viii, how has no-one mentioned Henry v ("God for Harry, England and St George") ? smile

I wouldn't do it unless it's an important family name from your ds's perspective. Agree that it's a good idea for a middle name though.

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 08:16:21

Also, Prince Harry is actually called Prince Henry, Harry is just his nickname. When he gets a little older and starts doing more 'official' work as a member of the royal family (normally coinsides with them getting married), you'll get more of him being at events as "Prince Henry" with the public calling him Harry, the fact that Harry is just a nickname for Henry will become more widely understood, and you will be the mum who gave each DS the same name...

seeker Sun 06-Jan-13 09:01:23

I know this isn't relevant to the thread, but when Prince Harry "gets a little older"?????????

He's 27 or is it 28? Why do people persist in behaving as if he's 18?

DontmindifIdo Sun 06-Jan-13 09:18:37

Seeker - because they don't normally start doing "official" work as a Royal until they are early 30s, he's still in the grace period of being allowed to persue his military career only, but give 5 - 10 years, or when he gets married, he'll be expected to start doing more walking around hospitals/factories/rainy town centres smiling innanely at everyone and saying nothing of consequence. (Then being slagged off for never saying anything interesting, of course if he ever did say anything the slightest bit interesting, we'll all slag him off for interfering in politics) Prince William is getting it now, as he's about to have a baby, the assumption is he should give up doing something actually rather useful for the country like flying rescue helicopers his 'distracting' career and focus on wasting his life, walking around rainy town centres while people give his wife flowers 'public work'.

GuffSmuggler Sun 06-Jan-13 13:39:01

I agree with rhubarb and somerset....

farmersdaugther Sun 06-Jan-13 14:26:55

I agree with rhubarb...

I think it would be v silly.

TalkativeJim Mon 07-Jan-13 00:09:18

They're the same name!

Yes many people see Harry as now standalone but - they are the same name. Harry is the nickname for Henry. I know two Henrys who are known as Harry, and of course there's the Playboy Prince grin

Don't do it.

echidnakid Mon 07-Jan-13 00:50:18

I don't think of them as the same name but they sound too similar to give to siblings, sorry! Henry is a spectacular name so I feel your pain but I definitely think you have to choose something else.

QOD Mon 07-Jan-13 01:19:40

They'll be 14yrs apart., never at same school etc. I wouldn't worry about it.

My Dh has 3 siblings . Without actually giving their real names they are the equivalent of

Julia
Julian
Patricia
Patrick

its mental to be fair, but who cares

confuddledDOTcom Mon 07-Jan-13 01:32:35

Harry is already starting to be called Henry officially. I remember my feed going mad with idiots going "Prince Henry? His name's Harry!" during Olympics ceremony (I think?)

sonnieboo Mon 07-Jan-13 12:16:56

I honestly would not name one of my sons Henry if I already had one called Harry, sorry. Wouldn't your son Harry feel a little annoyed with having to share his name with his little brother? Wouldn't it be nicer for both of them to have their OWN name?

SpanishLady Mon 07-Jan-13 12:48:47

I have a Henry and we call him Harry - I really wouldnt do what you are suggesting.

finchale Mon 07-Jan-13 13:07:05

I wouldn't do this - it would be a bit different if ds1 was Henry, and happy not to use the nickname Harry -
but if you call ds2 Henry, then he cannot use the nickname Harry, even though many Henrys do use Harry as a less formal version of their name.

Narked Mon 07-Jan-13 13:11:52

Root wise they are different - Harry from Harold and Henry from Henri - but they're seen as too closely related now to use both.

persephoneplum Mon 07-Jan-13 14:08:17

I wouldn't even use Hamish and James for brothers let alone Harry and Henry.

And my son Felix thinks it's a great idea to call his baby brother Fox because it's so similar to his own name. Um no. I'm the parent, I name the baby (even though I love Fox, it's too similar).

I personally don't give a fig about democratic naming practices - my son will name a baby when he has one himself. Just because it was his suggestion doesn't make it a good one.

AuntieShirley Mon 07-Jan-13 16:33:47

Also, I don't think I would like to be the younger sibling and feel as though I had been named after a big brother. I would feel as though Iwas supposed to be living up to something.

ZooAnimals Mon 07-Jan-13 19:15:37

As the OP and her family clearly view Henry and Harry as two seperate names, I don't think the younger DC will grow up feeling he has been named after his brother and feel pressure to 'live up' to him.

Pancakeflipper Mon 07-Jan-13 19:26:32

No.

In our family you wouldn't use John and Jack as my Grandpa's proper name was John but known as Jack as his less formal name...

StrawberryMojito Mon 07-Jan-13 19:38:22

My younger half sister was given a variation on my name. I was not and still am not impressed. Don't do it OP.

Pancakeflipper Mon 07-Jan-13 20:39:06

Was she called MintyMojito?

PickledInAPearTree Mon 07-Jan-13 22:49:56

Noooooooooooooooo

grin

StrawberryMojito Wed 09-Jan-13 20:12:20

grin

TameGaloot Wed 09-Jan-13 22:08:45

Narked
Really? Everything I've seen says that Harry or Herry were the medieval pronunciations of Henry which is from Heimirich / Heinrich as is Henri/ Henricus

MoottonBun Wed 09-Jan-13 23:29:43

NotLongUntilXmas - I am dying to know what your daughters' similar names are - can't think of anything significantly different for English/French equivalents, please share!

TheOriginalSteamingNit Wed 09-Jan-13 23:30:46

You can't have Henry and harry! That's like having Lizzie and Elizabeth!

they are the same name

CheerfulYank Thu 10-Jan-13 04:43:59

Definitely wouldn't.

Even if your ds1 is fine with essentially having his brother named after him, you've no way of knowing how ds2 would feel about it. As a middle name it's fine, but give him his own name too.

Also, unless I were introduced to them together I'd probably spend ages trying to figure out which boy was Henry aka Harry, and what the other brother was called.

RubyGates Thu 10-Jan-13 07:45:48

It was common to give at least the first couple of boys the same first (usually the father's) name and call them different diminutives because noone expected both to live to adulthood and reproduce.

WE have ancestors in the 19th century with two sons called Israel but only one survived sad

Harry and Henry are the same name. To me it feels as if your replacing DS1 with DS2 by using the same name. Will you call a third Hal?

CheeseStrawWars Thu 10-Jan-13 14:32:46

Oh, it's sweet your DS came up with the name. What about Henrik? Henry as a nickname? (Bit tenuous?)

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