If we call our son Raven will he get beaten up?

(54 Posts)
Ipp3 Sun 02-Dec-12 16:32:29

We cannot agree on a boy's name. My husband has suggested Raven. My first response was ' Why on earth are you suggesting that? We have already agreed not to send him to a Steiner school!'. But Dh said it is actually an old English name and not a hippy name. I admit I quite like it but think this is a theoretical like and that I am imagining our son called Raven as the dark, brooding, but deeply charismatic, hero of some gothic teenage flick. When I imagine our son called Raven in the real world I see him being chased around the playground by a group of other boys flapping their arms up and down and shouting 'Caw! Caw!' What do you think? I am not so much asking if you like the name, I have seen enough mumsnet discussions to know how deeply divisive names are, just asking if you think life will be harder being a boy named Raven.......

Convert Sun 02-Dec-12 16:36:05

Well I don't think it would make life any easier for him. What happens if he turns out to be a fair haired quiet type instead of a dark, take over the works type?

Convert Sun 02-Dec-12 16:36:53

Damn it. World, not works!

Bluestocking Sun 02-Dec-12 16:37:10

I don't think it will cause him any problems at school. But are you likely to have a dark, brooding and deeply charismatic son? I would be worried that if I called my son Raven he would inevitably end up stocky, sandy-haired and indomitably cheerful, none of which would be a bad thing but would not really go with his name!

Hassled Sun 02-Dec-12 16:37:59

I think life is already hard enough without the burden of a name like Raven. You're really just handing both the ammunition and the gun to any random bullies who may feature in your boy's life.

Ipp3 Sun 02-Dec-12 16:53:14

Blue stocking, if he is like me he will be fair and quiet, if like my brother ginger, small and highly social, if like his dad dark and ranty! : ). I was just trying to sort out my imaginations from likely realities. Childhood is about fitting in really isn't it? You have to wait till you are older to be an individual really....

MolotovCocktail Sun 02-Dec-12 16:59:24

Yes. Having Raven as his name will make life a little bit harder, IMHO.

Snowflakepie Sun 02-Dec-12 17:10:31

I think it would be easier on a girl than a boy tbh. In fact I think there is an annoying show on Disney channel with that as the main character, female.
I suspect it will be the thing that gets picked on, in the way that kids always find something to pick on, sorry. It was a good effort by your OH tho!

whywhywhywhywhy Sun 02-Dec-12 17:12:10

I agree it would suit a girl better.

TrillsCarolsOutOfTune Sun 02-Dec-12 17:13:26

The only Raven I can think of is a girl

Also - only people with black hair can be called Raven.

sunnysunnyshine Sun 02-Dec-12 17:54:35

I know a baby girl called Raven. No hair yet but I hope it's black! I like the name but think it would only work on a 'raven haired beauty'. Which can never be guaranteed when naming a child obviously...

PurpleTinsel Sun 02-Dec-12 19:05:50

Raven sounds more like a girl's name to me.

Agree that having a name like that could make things harder, especially if you have a son who's on the quiet and shy side.

pictish Sun 02-Dec-12 19:09:16

Ah but will he look like a Raven?

If he turns out to be fair, freckly and jolly he's going to face a lifetime of confused grin isn't he?

I say nay to Raven.

LynetteScavo Sun 02-Dec-12 19:10:32

I think it will be OK if he has black hair. But if he's blonde with freckles, it will just be silly.

JesusInTheCabbageVan Sun 02-Dec-12 19:10:43

Only works on a certain type. He's not going to carry it off if he turns out to be, say, adorably rotund and freckly.

MsElleTow Sun 02-Dec-12 19:13:53

There was a girl called Raven in DS1's class at secondary school. AFAIK she didn't get any stick.

Sabriel Sun 02-Dec-12 19:15:21

My 23 yo has a name with a similar sort of feel to Raven. It has raised eyebrows over the years but also acted as an icebreaker. Children who bully will find anything to use so that really isn't a worry.

I was a TA in a rough secondary school and we had a girl transfer in called Doris. She was Y8. All the teachers and TAs said "Doris?! WTF?". None of the kids batted an eyelid.

You can't say only people with black hair can be called Raven. That's as daft as saying only people with red hair can be called Rufus (means red-haired - Rufus Sewell anyone?) or only girls with very pale skin and white-blonde hair can be called Lily.

SandStorm Sun 02-Dec-12 19:15:36

I thought it was a girl's name too.

racingheart Sun 02-Dec-12 19:18:14

Sounds like you have misgivings. There's far more variety in names these days, so he won't necessarily get teased for it. But it is so specific and he might not suit it.
If your DH likes old English names, look for others: Edward, Edmund, Alfred, Wilfred, Bede - all popular enough without narrowing down what sort of person they suit.

MuggedByTheSleepThief Sun 02-Dec-12 19:18:23

I think names absolutely can be the source of piss-taking and Raven would make him more vulnerable to this. Also, it has sinister connotations imo. Sorry

racingheart Sun 02-Dec-12 19:20:28

Here's a list of lots of Old English boy's names. there are some really lovely and unusual ones in there.

madwomanintheattic Sun 02-Dec-12 19:23:43

I think dh will change his mind once he realises it is a Disney girl's name. grin it won't have the same unusual and masculine appeal...

That said, I know boys called Ocean, Wolf, Forest (not double r wink), and various other slightly woo names that attract no attention at all.

But raven is without doubt a girl's name. Sorry. That's ok if dh is up for it, but I suspect he was imagining it was somehow innately masculine. grin

And it just isn't. (It's also a totally lame show)

Nagoo Sun 02-Dec-12 19:25:26

Mortimer is a nice name grin

Whirliwig72 Sun 02-Dec-12 19:26:36

How about Wilf? That's English and manly without being dark and brooding dependent.

Anonymumous Sun 02-Dec-12 19:29:35

It's not really my usual style, but I actually really like Raven. It brings to mind the Tower of London and lots of bloodthirsty male history (not that I am particularly bloodthirsty, you understand - it just seems like a more masculine name to me because of those connotations).

My son got called Theo Wee-o at his first school. No name is safe, in all honesty!

Frikadellen Sun 02-Dec-12 19:49:56

I have to say Raven for me is a girls name as I know a lady called it. But I think it is lovely and no I dont think it even figures on the odd list.

Yika Sun 02-Dec-12 20:02:08

Sounds masculine enough to me. I personally wouldn't though there are so many unusual names about I assume there's less teasing - and even very innocuous, ordinary names can be used to tease if children are determines enough.

Ipp3 Sun 02-Dec-12 21:34:08

Thanks everyone! Especial thanks to racing heart for the list of old English boys names and to whirligig for the suggestion of Wilf. I quite like that! Will bat it around , it is a definite contender! And Nagoo, I like Mortimer too. I suggested Giles Mortimer but husband was dead against it!

SantasBitch Sun 02-Dec-12 21:40:08

Raven mad...

CheeseStrawWars Sun 02-Dec-12 21:43:35

Someone's already linked to the TV series "That's So Raven", she is the only Raven I know of.

Raven will get nn of Ray, surely? If you're happy with that nn, what about something like Rafe/Ralph (pron rayff, as in Ralph Fiennes)?

Narrowboat Sun 02-Dec-12 21:47:00

how about Parker? More male, low key and quietly different.

Raven is a bit try hard

OwedToAutumn Sun 02-Dec-12 21:49:27

I know a Raven.

He's a musician, from a family of musicians.

Viviennemary Sun 02-Dec-12 21:51:21

It's a ridiculous name. Please don't even think about it.

busymummy3 Sun 02-Dec-12 21:53:08

What Parker as in Lady Penelope's chauffeur ? ThunderBirds are Go !!!

HongKongPooey Sun 02-Dec-12 21:58:54

Raven loon... not for me grin

CheeseStrawWars Sun 02-Dec-12 22:01:33

Nosy parker? Parka jacket? Peter Parker/Spiderman? I think you could get away with Parker in the US (wasn't one of the Sex & The City babies called that?) but in the UK...?

Do you like the name Ray? Because that's what he'll be called.

cityangel Sun 02-Dec-12 22:09:41

Reuben, Ryder, Cavell, Aiden, Evan...

Worley Sun 02-Dec-12 22:09:51

am I the only one now singing the theme tube to "teen titans" the kids cartoon with a girl called raven in...
(tis what happens when I have 2 ds's obsessed with super heroe cartoons)

lljkk Sun 02-Dec-12 22:18:35

I think Raven is fine. Boys called Tom & Jack get beaten up too.

Clary Sun 02-Dec-12 22:33:25

I taught a Raven.

The oddest thing about it was that he was sandy haired and freckly! But AFAIK he got no grief over his name.

Iggly Sun 02-Dec-12 22:35:59

Raven is one of those names which sound nice in theory.

Don't do it.

Feckbox Sun 02-Dec-12 22:43:17

Raven loony
Raven poofter.
and worse

blanksquit Sun 02-Dec-12 22:54:08

Sorry but it's a silly name.

It sounds hippyish. And he may not be hippyish.

I genuinely feel sad for the Storms and Forests out there. It's on a par with these.

edam Sun 02-Dec-12 22:58:59

I know a girl called Ocean who doesn't get any stick for her name, can't see why Raven would be any worse in terms of unusual names. ds and I used to love the CBBC programme but if you do use this name, encourage your son NOT to go for the neat tache and beard combo the presenter is sporting. grin

pecans Sun 02-Dec-12 23:03:24

I know a Raven ... And he goes to a Steiner school. I quite like it but if you doubt the name don't use it -- you will go off it later. All the semi-hippy names I liked while pg just sound pretentious to me now.

SirBoobAlot Sun 02-Dec-12 23:08:05

Short answer? Yes.

There was a kid with the middle name Raven at our school. He had the piss ripped out of him despite a normal first name.

Mu1berries Mon 03-Dec-12 08:09:52

A girl in my old office's brother was expecting a baby and when she came in and said that it was born, a girl, called Raven, some people were wondering if the mom was african american. apparently it's perceived to be african american name there. but names have different assoications in different places.. More to the point though I think it's a GIRL's name! It's a feminine sound and I wouldn't use it for a boy. But I've heard worse and I don't think he'd be beaten up.

HRH008 Mon 03-Dec-12 08:13:22

Please don`t. If he´s tall he will get called big bird, and teased, a lot.

1978andallthat Mon 03-Dec-12 08:42:10

I think it's silly. Sorry.

YouCanBe Mon 03-Dec-12 12:10:05

I agree that he would probably just end up as Ray.

My first thought was he will get called Claw because of Ravenclaw, but then I am a sad Harry Potter fan.

There more I say it though, I like it, for a girl or a boy.

pinkandyellowbutterfly Mon 03-Dec-12 12:30:16

As it is a name so strong in image, I think its type casting him before he is born, which later on might put alot of pressure in him as he feels he has to live up to his name, and that could potentially be disasterous in his teenage years.

firefly4400 Tue 04-Dec-12 19:14:38

I know a guy called Raven who definitely doesn't fit the dark, brooding stereotype, and he's never had any problems with his name. He's tall and well-built with light brown hair and blue eyes, and no one gives a monkeys that his name is supposed to imply a different appearance! There are plenty of Scarletts out there who don't have red hair!

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