Any Irish MNers? Everyone? Advice on this name.

(53 Posts)
greenants Fri 23-Nov-12 22:37:30

I'm wondering how Erin is seen in Ireland. I believe it's meaning is Ireland and has been around since the 1950s or so. Is it a popular name? I'm trying to work out what kind of name it is - trendy, classic etc - and if its going to stand the test of time.

Could it described as timeless as that's what I'm looking for?

It's not a proper Irish name.

It's a name 3rd generation Americans call their kids. Phoney and naff.

I'm Irish.

ChippyMinton Fri 23-Nov-12 22:42:55

Lovely name. The only one I know has Irish parents confused

goralka Fri 23-Nov-12 22:44:29

the only one I know has an Irish dad....

CremeEggThief Fri 23-Nov-12 22:44:49

It's originally a poetic name for Ireland (Eireann), imported back to Ireland from Irish immigrants in America, I believe. I am 34 and know four Irish Erins, from 13 to early 30s.

Tommy Fri 23-Nov-12 22:45:08

Lovely name. Some friends called their daughter Erin - he is Irish, she is 2nd generation Irish

CremeEggThief Fri 23-Nov-12 22:46:00

Oh and in Ireland, it's pronounced 'Ere/inn'.

quietlysuggests Fri 23-Nov-12 22:48:54

I love it.
It started out as only Irish Americans would call their daughters this, also Shannon, to emphasise their Irishness.
So its been seen by Americans as an Irish name for decades now.
But whilest people used to sort of sneer at this type of thing (back in the 80s people would marvel at "only in america..."), in the past 10 ish years its become a name name.
I love it. Its high up my list.

CointreauVersial Fri 23-Nov-12 22:51:55

We have an Erin. DH is Irish, I'm not.

It isn't a common name in Ireland, and isn't traditional at all. But it is a name that works well in the UK, but still has a nod to her father's heritage.

I don't think DH's family had any objection to it.

goralka Fri 23-Nov-12 23:03:27

you sound familiar Ms V

forgetmenots Fri 23-Nov-12 23:03:59

It's similar to the Scottish Gaelic for Ireland, Eirinn (pronounced air-een)
Fwiw!

ConfusedandBemused Fri 23-Nov-12 23:04:44

I'm from Ireland, I know of one. It's not very popular at all, I would never have liked it. It would not be considered a traditional name here.

YoullScreamAboutItOneDay Fri 23-Nov-12 23:07:11

I think it is often seen as a compromise name for people who want an Irish link, but not a really Irish name with a 'difficult' spelling. I think relatives of mine would possibly consider it a bit naff. Like naming your child Chelsea or London.

But I (English) like it. Have two non-Irish friends with an Erin.

YoullScreamAboutItOneDay Fri 23-Nov-12 23:07:47

No, definitely not traditional or classic from an Irish perspective.

CointreauVersial Fri 23-Nov-12 23:09:36

Familiar, goralka? How so??

AThingInYourLife Fri 23-Nov-12 23:10:57

I really hate this name.

It reminds me of cheap cuppa soup - Erin Hotcup.

Erin and Éireann aren't pronounced the same way.

goralka Fri 23-Nov-12 23:11:23

were you ever Ms V in RL?

canyou Fri 23-Nov-12 23:13:18

Am Irish, it makes me think of Erin Soup

CointreauVersial Fri 23-Nov-12 23:18:19

My first name is V......

goralka Fri 23-Nov-12 23:19:45

ah no well then I got it wrong! Sorry!

tibradden Fri 23-Nov-12 23:20:15

Don't have too many close friends but 3 have daughters named Erin
prounced Air - in. All gave birth the same year

Each looking for an original name, all quite horrified that someone else had used their original name.

CointreauVersial Fri 23-Nov-12 23:30:41

(phew, thought my cover was blown there) wink

goralka Fri 23-Nov-12 23:35:47

grin sorry to alarm you!!

Again with the soup I'm afraid.

lollypopsicle Sat 24-Nov-12 08:15:42

I know 3 Erins, all under 3. All are British babies but named by first or second generation Irish parents who would regard themselves as having strong Irish roots (or at least one of them would). I like it, but it is becoming rather common in my (admittedly anglo-Irish catholic) circles.

milkandribena Sat 24-Nov-12 12:37:52

The only ones I know are all Welsh.
It's not an Irish name though - They all said that it is a welsh name (means Ireland in welsh) so not a made up american name.

BRANdishingMistletoe Sat 24-Nov-12 12:42:37

I'm Irish and I really like the name. It sounds sweet and cosy to me (I may have watched too many episodes of The Waltons as a child.)

Maryz Sat 24-Nov-12 12:50:05

It's mostly used by Americans or other Irish emigrants in various countries.

I actually quite like it as a name, but it is a bit soupy to anyone living in Ireland. And It needs a long Air with a short In - so it's not pronounced Errin. I think of it as being in the same genre as Cailín (or Colleen hmm).

HarlettOScara Sat 24-Nov-12 12:50:16

I'm in Northern Ireland and know several Erins (no babies, though...all aged 15+)

TakingTheStairs Sat 24-Nov-12 12:57:27

I'm Irish and I would not consider it a traditional or popular Irish name. To me it sounds American - Irish or the name of a packet soup. Sorry

AlfalfaMum Sat 24-Nov-12 12:57:38

I like it, it's a nice pretty name.
Know a 10 year old called Erin in Dublin.

AThingInYourLife Sat 24-Nov-12 13:35:03

That would actually make some sense, milkand, if it were a Welsh word.

It's certainly not an Irish one.

mathanxiety Sat 24-Nov-12 17:38:44

It is a made up American name and has nothing to do with Welsh. It started in America when Irish immigrants began to cherish and romanticise their heritage (when they were safely out of the manual-labour-straight-off-the-boat category of immigrants and nicely ensconced in the middle class). Other names in the same category are Tara and Shannon, and Colleen (which arose from a half remembered Irish word cailin, meaning girl). Alannah is another one (from the endearment (vocative case) 'A leanbh' - 'dear child'/'sweetiepie').

It's an anglicisation of the word Eireann, which is the genitive case of the word Eire.
You can find it in the hymn 'Hail Glorious Saint Patrick' --
'Thy people, now exiles on many a shore,
Shall love and revere thee till time be no more,
And the fire thou hast kindled shall ever burn bright,
Its warmth undiminished, undying its light.

On Erin's green valleys, on Erin's green valleys,
On Erin's green valleys look down in thy love.

Ever bless and defend the sweet land of our birth,
Where the shamrock still blooms as when thou wert on earth,
Our hearts shall still burn, wheresover we roam,
For God and Saint Patrick, and our native home.' (iirc)

Irish people tend not to use it and it's uncommon in Ireland for the same reason you don't find many British girls named Brittania. Plus there is Erin Soup.

mathanxiety Sat 24-Nov-12 17:40:11

Yes, pronounced AIR-in.

AThingInYourLife Sat 24-Nov-12 18:11:15

I quite like the name Tara though.

squoosh Sat 24-Nov-12 18:21:33

It's an Americanisation as others have said, like Shannon or Colleen. So some English people/Irish people in England have adopted an American name that orginates from an Anglicisation of an Irish word. I don't think it's actually that common in Ireland though.

I think it's really naff.

I also think of Erin Soups.

B1ueberries Sat 24-Nov-12 18:48:38

Erin packet soup. Cheap soup.

Erin sounds American to me. I mean, that is not bad per se, but I wouldn't pick it if I were looking for an Irish name. What about Edel? much nicer.

I agree with lollypopsicle, there's a sort of third generation-ness about it.

B1ueberries Sat 24-Nov-12 18:52:44

I like Tara too.

wigglesrock Sat 24-Nov-12 19:11:47

I'm in NI and I know about 4 under 8s and I can't think of anyone older than that with the name - I quite like it but I can't have Tara at all grin

elah11 Sat 24-Nov-12 19:18:38

I am Irish also and dont like Erin either, its American sounding and along the same lines as Shannon ], Kerry, Tara, Coleen etc. Its certainly not a traditional Irish name at all and most people in Ireland will immediately think of the soup smile

babyblabber Sun 25-Nov-12 23:21:25

I'm Irish too and also honk of it as a terrible American ''I'm totally Irish" name. Awful.

And the soup.

Janeatthebarre Mon 26-Nov-12 09:45:59

I'm Irish and Erin would definitely be considered the type of name Americans with an Irish background give their children. I do know of one or two Erins over here but it would be considered a bit of a chavvy name in Ireland.

Mu1berries Mon 26-Nov-12 11:08:11

Do you know what I have heard a few times in Ireland though, which I consider American.... Paige! I'm not sure if it's cos they've taken Peig off the leaving cert. Paige came out of Peig I think. NOt sure about that though. mathanxiety would know i bet. I couldn't have touched that name with a barge pole.

wigglesrock Mon 26-Nov-12 11:19:57

Oh, I know quite a few Paiges. I remember when I was about 9 I thought it was the most glamorous name ever grin I think there was one on Falcon Crest/The Colbys that coloured my notions.

squoosh Mon 26-Nov-12 11:27:32

Yes, Paige has a very 80s American soap opera sound, similar to Brooke or Peyton.

Don't think it has a link to Peig.

AThingInYourLife Mon 26-Nov-12 13:12:09

Oh, I loved Falcon Crest smile

It made up for not being allowed to watch Dallas.

mathanxiety Tue 27-Nov-12 01:55:07

Much more likely to have been inspired by TV than Peig. What a dreary slog that book was.

shock I wasn't allowed to watch Dallas either...

BartletForTeamGB Tue 27-Nov-12 12:31:45

I know two Erins, one is Irish through and through and one is Scottish.

chipmonkey Fri 07-Dec-12 00:55:24

LOL at not being allowed to watch Dallas but Falcon Crest was fine?shock
grin
I know an Erin who is 7. Not crazy about it tbh. Would you call your child England, for example?
Reminds me of Shannon (= Thames)
Another one that annoys me is Caitlin, pronounced Katelynn. It's actually pronounced Kathleen.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys Fri 07-Dec-12 01:08:47

I have never heard of an Erin either..except the soup!

I too was only allowed watch Falcon Crest!

Does it have to be an Irish name OP, or are you just looking for a timeless name?

DublinMammy Fri 07-Dec-12 04:40:37

It's a bit "Plastic Paddy" tbh.....

Dualta Fri 07-Dec-12 07:27:57

Hi there
I'm Irish and agree with other posters - its definitely not used over here. I would say that it is popular with 2nd generation Irish people in the US - would definitely associate it with names like Shannon, Colleen etc that are popular in the same vein.
It means Ireland.
There are loads of threads with genuine Irish names on here - some pretty hard to pronounce/spell if you're not in Ireland! but some lovely authentic names.

I'd love one for my next baby but DH is adamant after living abroad that we have to have internationally pronounceable names! smile

Another no from me I'm afraid. Soupy imo smile

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