Claudia or Harriet?

(64 Posts)
Mythoughts Mon 05-Nov-12 15:16:59

After much debate, we are settled on these two names, I prefer one and my DH prefers the other. Which do you prefer?

B1ueberryJam Mon 05-Nov-12 15:23:25

Claudia. Harriet is very ugly. Makes me think of Hairy, or hairytoilet. i know this is just me. But it is totally grim and Claudia is beautiful. From one extreme to the other!

Claudia, definitely. I feel like Harriet is a bit 'wet'. Claudia is feisty and not to be messed with grin

Oooh no, I LOVE Harriet!

Bessie123 Mon 05-Nov-12 15:38:20

Doesn't Caudia mean cripple?

Mythoughts Mon 05-Nov-12 15:53:14

Claudia does mean 'lame' but to be fair, there are plenty of other names with random meanings, so I'm not letting that put us off.

Harriet for me on the grounds of being more flexible and more pretty.

Currently crushing on Hatty as nn.

WitchesTit Mon 05-Nov-12 16:01:45

Harriet is awful, brings to mind a spoilt chubby little girl on a Shetland pony.

Claudia is the polar opposite, a willowy elegant girl with a long fringe who reads loads and knows how to do 60's eye makeup.

I'm aware I'm over thinking but we are considering girls names at the moment too, and these two have come up a few times (by DP)

Bessie123 Mon 05-Nov-12 16:05:39

I think the meaning of a name is important, you're sending a message to your child.

bigbluebump Mon 05-Nov-12 16:09:25

Claudia just screams 'lame/disabled' to me, sorry. Perhaps I've studied too much Latin though smile.

VivaLeBeaver Mon 05-Nov-12 16:10:44

I love Harriet.

bigbluebump Mon 05-Nov-12 16:10:46

And yes, other names have 'random' meanings but the names Claudia/Claudio is excactly derived from the latin claudus meaning lame/crippled. Shame as it a nice name otherwise.

B1ueberryJam Mon 05-Nov-12 16:56:36

yeah but Amelia means no limbs and that's the number one name.

SurreyWithAFringeOnTop Mon 05-Nov-12 16:57:38

Claudia by a mile.

I love Hattie but Harriet is plain and prim.

Everlong Mon 05-Nov-12 17:03:49

Harriet by a million miles.

It's my favourite girls name if I have to pick.

Classic, cool for all ages.

Claudia is just about ok.

buttercrumble Mon 05-Nov-12 17:08:12

Harriet is lovely, not keen on claudia.....

BeaWheesht Mon 05-Nov-12 17:09:28

Harriet is one of my favourite girls names ever

Allalonenow Mon 05-Nov-12 17:15:06

Claudia is lovely, Harriet a bit frumpy.

Alisvolatpropiis Mon 05-Nov-12 17:22:12

Claudia definitely. It's lovely. Harriet is horrible (sorry)

Dogsmom Mon 05-Nov-12 17:47:00

Claudia, much prettier & classier, I didn't know the meaning but it wouldn't put me off.

Harriet/Hattie is bland.

AvonCallingBarksdale Mon 05-Nov-12 17:49:50

Not hugely keen on either, sorry, but I would choose Claudia over Harriet every time. nn Claudie, Claude.
disclaimer - I know a HArriet and a Claudia, and prefer the Claudia!!

Viviennemary Mon 05-Nov-12 17:50:13

Claudia I think. But I'm not keen on either of them I'm afraid. But both are quite acceptable names.

bigbluebump Mon 05-Nov-12 17:50:38

Didn't think that Amelia meant no limbs in latin....confused.

smornintime Mon 05-Nov-12 17:51:02

Harriet

shockers Mon 05-Nov-12 17:57:50

I like them both, but I know a small Claudia (age 7) who is fab... gutsy, funny, bright, beautiful.

So I'd go for Claudia ( I'm not related to her BTW!)

hatsybatsy Mon 05-Nov-12 17:59:04

slightly biased here blush but I definitely prefer Harriet - laughed at the suggestion that Claudia was feisty and Harriet weak - our Harriet is the feistiest child you could meet!

I don't dislike Claudia - but Harriet (IMO) does have more options - our daughter is currently Hats/Hatsy but has a name that will see her through adulthood.

CremeEggThief Mon 05-Nov-12 18:08:58

Claudia. Not keen on Harriet.

Ham69 Mon 05-Nov-12 18:54:58

Harriet, definitely, always loved it. A classic and not overused. Love nn potentials and it won't be mispronounced unlike Claudia.

hellokitty123 Mon 05-Nov-12 19:01:24

I'm don't like the sound of Harriet - it sounds quite harsh and unfeminine to my ears, sorry. I do like the sound of Claudia but the meaning would put me off, unfortunately (I'd hate my child to grow up wondering why we chose her her that meant lame/disabled sad).

Ohsiena Mon 05-Nov-12 20:21:55

Love both.

lottiegarbanzo Tue 06-Nov-12 10:52:49

Claudia, either with clawed or cloud pr.

Harriet is ok but sounds terribly sensible, hockey-playing and head-girly to me, rather bossy.

Mythoughts Tue 06-Nov-12 11:48:39

Thanks so much for all of your replies. It looks like opinion really is divided. Decisions, decisions ......

sonniebonnie Tue 06-Nov-12 14:35:17

I don't like the sound of Harriet, it sounds a little harsh and doesn't travel well into other languages. Claudia sounds much more feminine and sounds great in most languages, but the meaning is a shame and would probably put me off.

weepootle Tue 06-Nov-12 14:41:20

Definitely Harriet, I love it - so pretty and feminine whilst being very strong. Don't like Claudia at all - sounds harsh and I want to say it in a german accent.

gazzalw Tue 06-Nov-12 14:43:05

Sorry I'm in the Harriet camp! Claudia is a very hard name - it might work in Italian but it just doesn't at all over here....Have a DN called Harriet, diminutive Hattie after la Jacques!

pikesy1 Thu 08-Nov-12 00:08:19

Claudia is lovely. As are Clara and Cora. Harriet sounds like the noise a train makes.

LuellaLovesLavendar Thu 08-Nov-12 09:41:44

Harriet lovely

Lebkuchenfan Thu 08-Nov-12 10:12:39

I don't like Harriet, it sounds so masculine. And starts with 'hairy'.....

Claudia (pronunced Clow-dia, the German way) is lovely and much more feminine. But the unfortunate meaning is a shame and wouldn't be nice for your dd as she grows up. Same with the name Cecilia (latin Caecus = blind).

i am biased and therfore think you shoudl have harriett <<claudia's are unique>> grin

PandaWatch Thu 08-Nov-12 12:13:39

Unless you're looking at baby name books or researching names online for baby naming, how many people actually consider what a name means when they meet someone? I'm sure if you call your DD Claudia most people's first reaction won't be "oh that comes from the Latin for lame".

Besides, it's not done Claudia Winkleman any harm - despite her being one of the most annoying presenters in the world!

Oh, and there is a feisty Claudia in Roman mythology:

Claudia was a Vestal Virgin as was thought to be Tarpeia, Tuccia, and Rhea Sylvia, who conceived Romulus and Remus. In Roman mythology Vesta pertains to a Roman goddess, the Sacred fire of Vesta, and the Temple of Vesta.

Claudia, a descendant of noble Roman stock, was devoted to her father and had much love for him. One day the Roman Senate decreed a great honor on him. While he was celebrating an elaborate triumph in front of a large crowd, a tribune of jealous plebs lunged forward to do him harm. Claudia, seeing this from the sidelines, rushed in between the plebs and her father to protect him. Somehow, this small woman managed to forge between her father and the attackers, giving her father a chance to escape. He was then able to continue his grand triumphal march to the Capital. Claudia, in turn, was also able to march triumphant back to the Temple of Vesta.

So I vote Claudia! smile

Lebkuchenfan Thu 08-Nov-12 12:40:58

I think some names have more 'obvious' meanings than others and Claudia happens to be one where the Latin root 'claudus', meaning crippled, lame is quite promiment. But perhaps I've just studied too much Latin grin.

PandaWatch Thu 08-Nov-12 13:51:50

Yes - I think you have grin

I honestly don't think most people would make a connection between Claudia and lame as there is nothing obvious to connect the two words unless you have a good knowledge of Latin.

RosannaBanana Thu 08-Nov-12 14:13:33

Prefer Harriet. Nice name, and name meanings are important to me. What happens when your daughter asks you what her name means?

We have a Harriet and she is neither fat nor hairy.

Everyone thinks it is a very pretty name and she is a lovely, balanced, clever, pretty little girl (well at 5' 3" and 12 not too little).

The only Claudia I knew in real life was a year above me at school and a complete bitch - one of those who ignored you and made all of her friends ignore you if you were out of favour.

So Harriet but then I am very biased! Oh and our Harriet is always Harriet at home but Hatty or Harry to her friends.

Otterpop Thu 08-Nov-12 14:40:26

I like them both, but prefer Claudia ever so slightly.

How the hell are you pronouncing Harriet that it begins with hairy?

I have a Harriet like MadameC's smile Everyone comments on how lovely her name is.

baskingseals Thu 08-Nov-12 22:56:23

i like Harriet more.

i would prefer to be called Harriet rather than Claudia.

tigerdriverII Thu 08-Nov-12 22:59:36

Harriet. If DS had been a girl that's what he'd have been. But in the spirit of Harry Hill - there's only one way to find out.....

chickydoo Thu 08-Nov-12 23:01:33

Claudia is very Germanic, also quite harsh sounding, what would you shorten it too?
Claude?? That's hideous.
Harriet is sweet, Hattie is gorgeous

Fozzleyplum Thu 08-Nov-12 23:05:36

Definitely Harriet, which I love. I don't mind Claudia, except for the Latin meaning. I know this is very subjective, but in my opinion, Harriet is a less "try hard" name, iyswim.

Yourefired Thu 08-Nov-12 23:07:07

Harriet. Bias as knew a claudia (which is a perfectly lovely name) who had a cockney nanny who used to screech "cloudier" at the poor bean.

scarlettsmummy2 Thu 08-Nov-12 23:16:29

Harriet.

LineRunner Thu 08-Nov-12 23:22:13

Claudia doesn't actually mean 'lame'; it's a latin urban myth. And even if it did, who cares? Really?

It's beautiful.

I like Harriet, too.

mummybare Fri 09-Nov-12 07:32:24

Hmmm, to me, Harriet is a bit Enid Blighton Jolly Hockey Sticks. Claudua is lovely, though - international and sophisticated while still working for a baby/child. Beautiful!

poppydaisy Fri 09-Nov-12 10:42:35

"Claudia doesn't actually mean 'lame'; it's a latin urban myth. And even if it did, who cares?"

The name Claudia is derived from the latin adjective 'claudus, clauda, claudum'
which means:
1.defective/crippled/imperfect
2.limping, lame
3.uneven/halting/wavering/uncertain

"Who cares" Well, I think I would care if my name had that meaning. Especially as there are so many other beautiful names out there with nicer (or no) meanings.

LineRunner Fri 09-Nov-12 10:47:26

It is a myth, honest guv. Those derivations are guesswork that have become modern factoids.

michellec1302 Fri 09-Nov-12 11:52:17

Harriet edges it for me. I wanted to be called Harriet when I was younger because of the film Harriet the Spy which I was obsessed with smile

Unless i've always pronounced it incorrectly, I have no idea where the 'hairy' nicknames are coming from. You could probably derive an ugly word from alot of names if you tried.

LineRunner Fri 09-Nov-12 13:21:06

(I believe that the origins of the Latium gens 'Claudius' do appear to predate by far any association of the name with 'lameness'.)

Bessie123 Fri 09-Nov-12 13:35:29

linerunner your argument is super lame

blondefriend Fri 09-Nov-12 22:57:07

Harriet. I know a few babies/toddlers called Harriet so the name will fit in without being too common. It's also very pretty. I do teach a beautiful girl called Claudia but I generally think of the name as being for older people.

PandaWatch Tue 13-Nov-12 14:40:14

Linerunner is right.

The association between Claudia and lame comes from the fact that Emperor Claudius allegedly suffered from various physical afflictions. Therefore the name pre-dates this meaning. The myth of the vestal virgin Claudia also predates this.

Remember that Latin taught today evolved over hundreds of years.

A comparison would be the name Hector, which means to hold fast but now also has the meaning to bully - a meaning which was long preceded by Hector of The Illiad.

strawberryswing Wed 14-Nov-12 11:45:24

Harriet is gorgeous but i really hate Claudia (sorry to any Claudias or mums of Claudia!)

StellaNova Wed 14-Nov-12 13:53:59

I love Harriet. Mainly because of Harriet Vane in Dorothy Sayers, but I still love the name.

On the other hand I feel I have been loving Harriet quite a few times on threads recently, and I have never seen Claudia come up, so maybe Harriet is becoming more popular? (I like Claudia but the Claw sound puts me off a little, unless you pronounce it Cloud-ia)

survivingautumn Thu 15-Nov-12 13:44:25

Love both and they were high up my list for dd smile

Claudia just edges it for me as it is a little more unusual but I think Harriet is an equally lovely name.

I have never heard the association of the name Claudia with 'lame' confused It was my DM's 'Latin' name at school in the 1960's so will ask her..

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