How is the name Guto perceived outside of Wales?

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Reesie Sun 09-Oct-11 22:00:54

Dc3 is due any time now and I know that he is going to be a boy. I had no problems naming dd1 and dd2 but dh and I are completely stuck on boys names. Both of us like the name Guto (pronounced Geit-oh) and most local welshies are positive about it. However, a couple of relatives/friends who over the border really don't like it. I've known a couple of Guto's over the years and they have been rather cool, very gorgeous sporty blokes which has probably increased my preference of the name!

Anyway, would you say yey or nay?

Grumpla Sun 09-Oct-11 22:01:39

I've never heard it before, I'd assume it was foreign but not necessarily Welsh!

I like it.

jkklpu Sun 09-Oct-11 22:02:17

Guto Harri

Beamur Sun 09-Oct-11 22:02:19

I have to say I have never heard it being used in RL. Is it an unusual name in Wales? I like the way it sounds though.

othersideofchannel Sun 09-Oct-11 22:07:24

Not heard of it but like the look and sound of it. Nice choice especially with Welsh heritage.

Reesie Sun 09-Oct-11 22:19:00

We have considered Guto Harri! It isn't that common in Wales either, mostly Welsh speakers I suppose. There is probably one or two in dd1's primary school. I like it as it is a little bit different, is short and reflects my welsh roots. And of course he will grow up to be one of those effortless intelligent, tall, sporty cool blokes if i give him this name!!!! Past experiences with a people of that name really does make you have a negative/positive feeling for a name choice!

Reesie Sun 09-Oct-11 22:33:06

Oh! Just googled Guto harri and he looks neither sporty or handsome!

Reesie Sun 09-Oct-11 22:34:36

Actually I was looking at a picture of Guto Bebb, Guto harri looks much better!

seeker Sun 09-Oct-11 22:35:24

I'm afraid that calling q child who will go to a school outside Wales q name that's wound like Git-o would be q big mistqke

seeker Sun 09-Oct-11 22:36:19

Go for Gethin.

Mollydoggerson Sun 09-Oct-11 22:43:01

Reminds me of 6uido, nice, reco6niseable, i like it

Fixture Sun 09-Oct-11 22:50:56

Lots of people will pronounce it Goo-to.

Reesie Sun 09-Oct-11 22:51:57

He will go to a welsh speaking school so would be ok. Not sure if I like Gethin though! I know what you mean about the pronounciation/application of the term Git-o. It wouldn't spring to my mind but was wondering if it would to others.

oohlaalaa Mon 10-Oct-11 09:43:31

I have a friend called Guto. He lives in Snowdonia (sheep farmer), but he did live in England for a few years, and everyone called him Gitso. Guto likes this nickname. Everybody, who was English, liked his name by the way, Gitso or Guto.

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Mon 10-Oct-11 09:47:34

I would look at it and pronounce it Gut-too.
Have you considered Adrian, Dunan or Gavin?

oohlaalaa Mon 10-Oct-11 10:12:32

The Guto I know is sporty and handsome too, if thats any help.

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BelleEnd Mon 10-Oct-11 10:23:39

I am Welsh first language and I wouldn't pronounce it Geit-oh- It's Git-oh. And it's lovely!

Do you want to give out your DC's names so that we can see your taste? I love Gerwyn, Geraint, Gwyn, and Gwyddno.

GuillotinedMaryLacey Mon 10-Oct-11 10:23:52

Not sure on the pronunciation, is it Gay-toe or Guy-toe? Never heard it before but if you're in Wales then I'm sure it's fine.

campergirls Mon 10-Oct-11 10:32:36

lol at Adrian, Dunan or Gavin as alternatives. I think it's a great name, and Guto Ffowc is a fine role model!

HappyAsIAm Mon 10-Oct-11 10:43:39

I'm Welsh and I've never heard of it, and I definitely wouldn't have recognised it as being Welsh so I wouldn't have got the pronounciation right.

If you like Welsh names, what about Ieuan, Gethin, Rhys etc?

AvengingGerbil Mon 10-Oct-11 10:53:25

Another ignorant English person here. Never having seen it written down, I thought the BBC journalist was called Git O'Harry.

(I thought it was unusual grin but never cared enough to check. MN education service rides to the rescue again.)

Hotpotpie Mon 10-Oct-11 10:58:36

Ive never heard of it either sorry, not sure I like it but thats not up to us to call (I do love Gethin though and Geraint)

minipie Mon 10-Oct-11 11:02:30

I've never heard it. If I read it I would assume it was pronounced Gutt-oh or Goot-oh. Neither of which is very nice imo. Gait-oh is much nicer but I would have to be told that that was how to pronounce it.

Reesie Mon 10-Oct-11 19:25:03

I'm going to go for it. Adrian, Dunan and Gavin are just not my taste and other welsh names such as Rhys, Ieuan and Gethin as so popular around my neck of the woods. There would probably be at least 3 of each in ds class. It is pronounced 'Git-oh' but didn't want to draw attention to the 'Git' part to see if people would pick up on it!

DD's are called Eve (Dh's choice - I was pushing for Efa but dh won!), dd2 is Gwenllian but is called Gwen day to day.

I forgot that it was a welsh alternative for Guy (as in Guy Fawkes, Guto Ffowc)!

Reesie Mon 10-Oct-11 19:28:49

It seems that the name is also used in Brazil. This Guto is rather nice!

TimeWasting Mon 10-Oct-11 20:35:57

I really like it. It's unusual, but not unpronouncable outside Wales.
Aneurin is nice too.

grin at Git O'Harry.

lostinwales Mon 10-Oct-11 20:45:16

I love the name and was going to suggest the rather lovely looking young man you linked to as a namesake! I am however mother to three boys with very Welsh names! It's one of the names I have in reserve in the distant chance that we have any more, I like Huw as well (hmm Guto Huw, that would go really well with our surname) Efa is lovely too and my MiL is Gwenllian, I really like it.

BikeRunSki Mon 10-Oct-11 20:50:15

I am English and live in England, but lived in Wales for a few years. I love Guto when pronounced properly. If you live in Wales, then what's the prob. Us thicky English folk have managed to get used to Niamh after all!

lostinwales Mon 10-Oct-11 21:41:52

Dear goodness don't google images the name Guto unless you have good parental controls on you computer, there is a young man who makes a certain type of films with that name <bleaches eyeballs>

Reesie Mon 10-Oct-11 22:13:05

Really? I'm off for a look!

BelleEnd Tue 11-Oct-11 09:20:29

Oh your children have lovely names! I particularly love Gwenllian, and Gwen as a nn is excellent- Conjures the beautiful Eve Myles.

blushingm Tue 11-Oct-11 09:29:11

what about Garyn - i was a school with a boy called that and always liked it

i'm also here in Wales but don't hear Guto often at all

Reesie Tue 11-Oct-11 13:04:31

What are your boys names lostinwales? I could steal one! (the name not one of your boys of course!)

blushingm Tue 11-Oct-11 13:48:05

Iolo is nice too? Or Efan, Iestyn, Osian, Rhodri

ShroudOfHamsters Tue 11-Oct-11 14:06:38

Like Guto.

As to other names, how about Macsen? Works well in England - can also be Macs/Max for short. Or:


lostinwales Tue 11-Oct-11 14:08:00

Ah what the hell, I'm not very anonymous here anyway as their photo is on my profile and they're in uniform! I've got Rhodri Arwel, Tomos Owain and Gwilym Ifor, they do all have easy English NN's for the non Welsh side of the family, so they can leave Wales and not be constantly explaining their names to everyone (well their first names anyway!). They are all bilingual like most people round here and go to primary and secondary schools where the main language is Welsh. Our surname is proper Welsh too, when there are elections and all the posters are up with the politicians names on I always laugh and think at least if they want to be in the Senedd then they've got the right names for the posters!

lostinwales Tue 11-Oct-11 14:09:01

But no you can't steal any of the boys, just their names unless you want the four year old who is a right pain at the moment

Thzumbiewitch Tue 11-Oct-11 14:15:59

I thought I was quite good at the various non-English names in Britain but I've never heard of that one and would have a) pronounced it Goo-toe and b) thought it might be German or something (mind-link with Gunther, I think). I did also immediately think of Kato from the Pink Panther films. But I am ignorant and if you like it, go for it.

TheOldestCat Tue 11-Oct-11 14:21:08

I'm Welsh and there was a Guto in our street (a super furry animal, no less). Go for it; it's a lovely name.

We live in England but our son has an Irish name. He'll have to spell it out a lot, but better than a dull moniker like mine that everyone knows.

BelleEnd Tue 11-Oct-11 14:49:34

lostinwales What lovely names! I am a particular fan of Gwilym and wanted it for DS2, but DH vetoed.

BikeRunSki Tue 11-Oct-11 15:22:48

Lost in Wales and Reecie -
Your DCs names are great,
I have Welsh nephews, Rhobert Emrys and Tomos Micael (sp????),
My favorite girls' names ever are Elin and Carys, but since I have v little connection with Wales don't feel justified using them.

HengshanRoad Wed 12-Oct-11 04:37:16

Not super-keen...

cory Wed 12-Oct-11 08:36:15

With these foreign sounding names I think there is one factor you need to make your mind up about first:

are you going to be the kind of family that gets terribly offended (=posts obsessively on Mumsnet) if the child's teachers/friends/future in-laws mispronounce the name or misspells it on their first birthday card?

or are you going to be able to take it in your stride?

both my dcs have difficult names but we get on with it and are tolerant of other people's efforts

lostinwales Wed 12-Oct-11 09:39:45

Sorry but <snort> at foreign sounding names! Welsh is not 'foreign', sorry cory I mean no offense, and I can almost see what you mean, it just tickled me! (although I do get offended and upset that my father still cannot pronounce his youngest grandsons name, it's not hard!)

spiderlight Wed 12-Oct-11 10:52:30

Gwenllian is beautiful! I'm not a massive fan of Guto but I think Guto Harri has made it a bit more widely known outside Wales. I have a Rhidian (or, as he's commonly called, Rhidian-with-an-i-not-a-y-and-no-he's-not-named-after-the-X-Factor-bloke-he-was-born-well-that' hmm He did get a rapturous welcome when we coincidentally wandered into X-Factor Rhydian's local pub once though!)

spiderlight Wed 12-Oct-11 10:52:50


cory Wed 12-Oct-11 18:24:38

Sorry, lostinwales, I read the OP carelessly and though the OP lived in England. My apologies blush.

Since she lives in Wales (just re-read it) clearly it is not a foreign sounding name, any more than my ds' name would be foreign in Sweden. I take it back.

SenSationsMad Wed 12-Oct-11 18:46:15

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SenSationsMad Wed 12-Oct-11 18:51:36

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Reesie Wed 12-Oct-11 18:57:00

Oooh! Lovely names lostinwales. Gwilym particularly (the other two have been taken up by close friends!). I'm going to go for it despite the 'Git' warnings from my more english speaking friends. I'm not bothered if it will be misspelt. The more I think about it the keener on the name I'm getting. DH is starting to be more worried but saying 'Oh a name like Guto Rhys "Surname", he surely would play rugby for Wales' - usually makes dh more agreeable!

What his happening to Guto Bebb's wife tonight? - I haven't seen the news.

BestisWest Wed 12-Oct-11 18:58:13

Guto is lovely, go for it. Love Gethin too (my dad's name) but agree it is getting very popular.
Just looked up the story of Guto Nydd Bran and realised in his case Guto was a diminutive of Griffith (another good name).

Reesie Wed 12-Oct-11 19:02:39

I looooovvveee Griffith but was pipped to the post by another friend.

SenSationsMad Wed 12-Oct-11 19:23:42

"Actually I was looking at a picture of Guto Bebb, Guto harri looks much better!"

I bet she loves him very much grin (if there is a mrs Bebb)

moondog Wed 12-Oct-11 19:26:25

There is and she is a very nice woman. grin

BelleEnd Wed 12-Oct-11 19:26:50

SenSations Gwenno is a wonderful name. One of the nicest EVER. It always makes me think of "pa bryd y deui eto i edrych am dy Wenno, pa bryd y deui eto wrth grwydro, Deio'r Glyn?" (Folk song.) I LOVE Deio too, for that matter <<stuck in Traed Mewn Cyffion-era Snowdonia>> grin

moondog Wed 12-Oct-11 19:31:35

What a fine place to be stuck too!
Good old Kate.

BelleEnd Wed 12-Oct-11 19:37:35

Aye. In fact, there was a Geini in that book. I've never heard that used in rl. Not keen myself, but it's different. <<ponders a baby name thread inspired by Welsh literature>>

SenSationsMad Wed 12-Oct-11 19:39:06

Thank you! Though I would n't have gone with Gwenno if I had called DS Guto or we'd be forever singing " Guto benfelyn o Dyddyn y Celyn a Gwenno o Dyddyn y Gwynt......

BestisWest Wed 12-Oct-11 19:39:35

Mrs Bebb is called Esyllt according to wikipedia. Another gorgeous name.

BelleEnd Wed 12-Oct-11 19:43:21

My hormones must have been mental when I was pg with DC1. If he'd have been a girl, he'd have been Lloer. Bearing in mind I am a pale moon-faced girl, the teasing would have been terrible... hmm grin

Esyllt is a great name. I loved Eirys too, but it doesn't suit our surname.

DigOfTheStump Wed 12-Oct-11 20:18:19

What about Gwyllm (sp) or Wyre?

mejon Wed 12-Oct-11 20:44:55

I've got a Gwenno too SenSationsMad (and a Mabli smile).

I like Guto - just that little bit different and not too common. Go for it OP!

lostinwales Wed 12-Oct-11 23:05:22

Love Gwenno.

What is happening with Guto Bebb <missed something emoticon>

Cory no offence at all, and I could see your point perfectly, it just tickled me! It was a point well made especially as the boys were watching 'pointless' tonight (goodness only knows why but that's another thread) and there was a question on languages, DS1 was totally incredulous that hardly anyone would know that 'Bore da' would be a greeting in Welsh. We live in a Welsh language bubble here, but I pointed out to the Ds's that they speak the contestants language perfectly whilst they don't understand his. I imagine your Swedish names are beautiful (and unlike DS2 here they aren't one of three in their classes)

DigOfTheStump I have one of those and we spell it Gwilym although that's probably diffrent somewhere, Wyre is a great name too.

BelleEnd Thu 13-Oct-11 08:27:33

I think I've come across you on here, lostinwales - Am I right in thinking you're in the south west? I am mid-Wales coast, but from north west originally- Quite weird going from somewhere that is a bubble of Welshness to somewhere where it's considered a quaint quirk... sad

I have also missed the Guto Bebb thing. What happened?

SenSationsMad Thu 13-Oct-11 08:38:02

Nothings happened to GB. OP was commenting how GH looks better than GB. I was worried for GB's wife should she stumble across this thread, she'd be upset to find that OP prefers Guto Harry to her husband!

((((hides in the 'sbensh' for making everyone confused))))

BelleEnd Thu 13-Oct-11 08:59:29

I can guess where you're from, SenSations, with the use of the word sbensh... <high fives in slate solidarity> grin

SenSationsMad Thu 13-Oct-11 09:02:07

right back atcha smile

mejon Thu 13-Oct-11 14:17:09

Ooo I wonder where you are BelleEnd? I'm a bit up from lostinwales and slightly inland so I guess we're pretty close. Dwi ddim yn bell o dref y coleg ger y lli smile.

BelleEnd Thu 13-Oct-11 14:59:47

Na fi! Ychydig i'r Gogledd... <<wets self in anticipation of MN Mid West Wales meet-up>>

SenSationsMad Thu 13-Oct-11 16:06:08

Rhy bell i mi sad


BelleEnd Thu 13-Oct-11 16:10:37

You could... Um... Dala'r tren cyntaf mas o'r dref..? grin

oohlaalaa Thu 13-Oct-11 16:22:38

Gwenllian - this is one of my favourite girls name. Love it.

I have a grandma called Gwendolyn. My cousin has used the name Gwennan, so not able to use any Gwen names.

I'm a welsh english mix, lived in Oswestry (just over the border, till I met my welsh DH, and moved 5 minutes away into Wales), with a welsh dad english mother.

I read your first post, and thought, oh I've always pronounced the name wrong, saying Git-oh instead of Geit-oh. I immediately assumed, that I was using the wrong pronounciation, and so never mentioned it. Glad its been corrected!

SenSationsMad Thu 13-Oct-11 16:31:22


lostinwales Thu 13-Oct-11 16:57:49

<losty wishes she knew what 'sbench' is>

SenSationsMad Thu 13-Oct-11 18:18:26

Why Lostin? What do you call the cupboard under the stairs?

BestisWest Thu 13-Oct-11 18:29:56

I call it the cwtch dan star (but I am South West and speak Wenglish rather than Welsh unfortunately)

BelleEnd Thu 13-Oct-11 19:49:14

I'd call in twll dan grisha...

lostinwales Thu 13-Oct-11 22:19:26

Cwtch all the way here! But we have a very weird pocket of language here, 10 miles down the road and it's different!

spiderlight Fri 14-Oct-11 09:43:26

Cwtch here too!

SenSationsMad Fri 14-Oct-11 09:53:34

I think sbensh is just in my home town, and some parts of Cornwall? ( DM read it in a novel)

wearymotherof6 Fri 14-Oct-11 10:03:03

love the name guto, i also live in welsh language bubble - on the lleyn. I have an Ifan and a Bryn, their English cousins have fun teasing them about their welshie names!

BelleEnDaNiAmEnnill Fri 14-Oct-11 20:58:23

Oh weary, Lovely names! Especially Bryn. Treeeeen i Afonweeen... grin
Llyn is lovely, I was there a few weeks ago- Around Sarn Mellteyrn and then Traeth Llanbedrog. Heaven!

I love the name Guto.

I have a Cwtsh dan star.

<Awaits news of Mid West Wales meet>

SenSationsMad Sat 15-Oct-11 10:33:19

Licio'r enw smile

Reesie Sun 16-Oct-11 20:31:18

Diolch i pawb sydd wedi dweud bod chi'n hoffi'r enw! Fi'n dod or dinas a definaley cwtch dan star!

Please excuse the welsh as I'm extreemly rusty. Although spoke welsh as a young child I ended up in english education and haven't spoken welsh well for many many years!

PrincessOfWails Mon 17-Oct-11 12:32:09

BIL is a Guto. Occasionally called Git Owen (he has a middle name so if you mumble his two names that's what you get!).
We call him Gut (git) for short!
I know a few Gutos, and I really like the name.

But I'm a woman who's gone properly obscure Welsh with my DS2...

wearymotherof6 Mon 17-Oct-11 12:44:45

BelleEnd - that is actually where i live!

BelleEnd Mon 17-Oct-11 13:05:57

No way weary! What a lovely area. I've got a few friends in the Botwnnog area (none with 6 kids though, so I don't know you grin ) It's so beautiful.

I am desperate to know PrincessofWails DS2's name. My two boys have Welsh names which I thought were pretty easy for English side of the family... Turns out they aren't grin

Shutupanddrive Mon 17-Oct-11 19:17:31

Wow surprised at the people that are in Wales that have never heard of Guto! Love it by the way. My boys are called Osian and Ifan.
Also like

DiaryofaSleepDeprivedMum Tue 18-Oct-11 10:11:37

Like most people outside of Wales, I read it as Goot-oh, which sounds African. As soon as I realised the correct pronunciation, I liked it. The one thing you will have to ask yourselves is can you or your child live with the constant questionning and mispronunciations. In my experience with my son Caleb (pronounced Kay-leb), I found that for every person who asks how the name is pronounced, you will find at least two that don't bother to check and just mispronounce it in the worst possible way and stick with it no matter how many times you correct them!

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