I want to call my baby Avocado

(114 Posts)
allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 12:59:28

Not really.

Hear me out...

Okay, I like Persimmon (nn Persi) (which is still in the running) but everyone was horrified to the point where I have a seed of doubt sown in my mind.

So... my children have taken to calling the baby Avocado, and I was idly wondering if there was a nice Latin name for Avocado or an Avocado flower or something, and it turns out that the Avocado is of the genus Persea - do you reckon it's pronounced Percy or Persee-ay?

And, if you're feeling indulgent, can you think of anything else Avocado-y that might work? (But don't just be cutting and acerbic) (unless it's also funny).

BluddyMoFo Fri 23-Sep-11 13:00:57

Guacamole? That would work for a girl OR a boy.

Northey Fri 23-Sep-11 13:02:07

I would say per-SAY-a.

If you have fond childhood memories of Anne of Green Gables, there is a character called Persis in one of the later books. Quite a nice one, too.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:02:28

See? That was cutting and funny. You can stay.

grin

i would pronounce it percy-a but i have no idea

i just wanted to come on and see if you have a copy of this book

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:03:30

Per-SAY-a. Hmmm. Don't think I like that. You could well be right though.

Persis is okay. <off to google>

KnottyLocks Fri 23-Sep-11 13:03:34

Guacamole?

Nice ring to it.

Also known as an alligator pear. Not much help, am I?

avocado is also known as the alligator pear

so how about ally
or pear

or gator

hass?

Avocado comes from the latin American 'ahuacatl' meaning testicle!! Not very pretty really...

Hullygully Fri 23-Sep-11 13:04:58

you are really losing the plot now allhail

what about Ava-Katie-Eau

"The word 'avocado' comes from the Spanish aguacate which in turn comes from the Nahuatl word ahuácatl (testicle, a reference to the shape of the fruit)"

testicle it is then!

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:05:29

grin @ Avocado Baby. If I work out an Avocado-y name I'll have to get that!

EdithWeston Fri 23-Sep-11 13:05:33

I'd say it purr-see-a - like the feminine of Perseus.

Northey Fri 23-Sep-11 13:05:38

Or Eve Ocado.

damn MP got there before me! lol

JuneChollySawcutt Fri 23-Sep-11 13:06:34

You will get many copies of this if you do stick with Avocado.

Just back from the farm shop where they are selling Quince, in season atm. Kind of cute. (If you want to stick to the fruit and veg theme.)

EdithWeston Fri 23-Sep-11 13:06:54

Testicle? Back to Plum, then?

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:06:58

Testicla for a girl presumably.

Oh arse. Does it really come from testicle?

KnottyLocks Fri 23-Sep-11 13:07:20

Erm, I'd steer clear of using 'avocado' itself though. It is derived from the native word for testicle.

So, if you go for it, I'd suggest using it for a boy grin

KnottyLocks Fri 23-Sep-11 13:08:31

I keep x-posting.

Must try harder.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:08:34

Persis means 'Persian woman' which my baby won't be, so I don't think that works.

aliceliddell Fri 23-Sep-11 13:08:43

dp suggests jerusalem & artichoke for twins, nn jerry and archie

I'm not very good with funny, but I did find this name pronouncer which pronounces it persee. Definitely prefer that to perseea/persaya

schobe Fri 23-Sep-11 13:11:50

I'm loving this saga.

You're going to end up calling her Jane.

You'll have gone round full circle, then imploded and sort of become a baby name black hole.

ShoutyHamster Fri 23-Sep-11 13:12:27

Why not Persephone??

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:13:14

Persea pronounced Persee? I like that.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 13:16:12

Noooo. Persephone is a beautiful sounding name but the connotations are too unpleasant.

Lol @ baby name black hole. I can't call it Jane or Susan! I do like those names but daughter 1 is called something ridiculous and I have to stick to the theme. I can't have them come to me in 20 years time and tell me Everything Is My Fault for calling one of them Rainbow-Flower and the other Maud.

Northey Fri 23-Sep-11 13:16:12

So we can assume it will be an avocado, then? wink

EdithWeston Fri 23-Sep-11 13:18:56

I googled, and found there is an avocado.org which lists names of varieties. How about Gwen?

HerdOfTinyElephants Fri 23-Sep-11 13:21:09

Persea I'd say per-SEE-uh or per-SAY-uh. I think I quite like it (for a girl).

Mind you, your baby won't be an avocado either. In fact, will have rather less in common with an avocado than with a Persian woman.

schobe Fri 23-Sep-11 13:21:30

You could start a new trend of modern names like Grace, Charity, Hope etc.

Persistence.

persimmon is also known as Sharon fruit....

there is also one called velvet-apple

velvet is a cool name

tigercametotea Fri 23-Sep-11 13:39:35

Avocado just doesn't have a feminine ring to it. It ends in an "o"... which is typical of Latin boy names. Why not have it end with an "a" as in "Avocada"? :D

5inthebed Fri 23-Sep-11 13:42:33

I always think Alioli is a beautiful girls name, wins Guacamole hands down anyway.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 14:19:52

Avocada
Testicula
Velveeta

<adds to list>

MyRightToAdvice Fri 23-Sep-11 14:22:12

I love Ariadne but i seem to get a lot of scepticism about it. (Alioli made me think of it)

cat64 Fri 23-Sep-11 14:24:10

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EdithWeston Fri 23-Sep-11 14:57:04

If you really want a testicular name, you could try Orchid?

Or if you must have an edible child, then Vanilla.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 15:31:34

Is Orchid testicular in etymology then? How strange when they look so much like fannies.

Vanilla. No.

CalatalieSisters Fri 23-Sep-11 15:35:37

What about shortening to Ocado? (assuming of course that you had a home delivery.) Nice and aspirational.

What about Persia, prenounced per-say-a?

Please do not name your child after a foodstuff.

Sidge Fri 23-Sep-11 15:43:12

DD3 and I were watching Blues Clues yesterday and I thought that Periwinkle was a FANTASTIC name.

I think you should use it.

TipOfTheSlung Fri 23-Sep-11 15:43:39

classified in the flowering plant family Lauraceae

Laura!

toddlerama Fri 23-Sep-11 15:50:19

This is weird. We called DD1 Avocado whilst in utero. It didn't stick.

CocktailQueen Fri 23-Sep-11 15:54:04

Oy schobe, nothing wrong with Jane!!

ShoutyHamster Fri 23-Sep-11 15:55:16

Perdita

Philomena

Pieta

Polydora

ShoutyHamster Fri 23-Sep-11 15:56:26

Pingu

pixiestix Fri 23-Sep-11 15:57:40

I would have thought it was per-say-uh.

CailinDana Fri 23-Sep-11 15:57:41

Why not just call her Percy, that's a great name and related to foodstuffs as in Percy Pig.
Otherwise why not call her Pear?

ShoutyHamster Fri 23-Sep-11 16:01:18

Penelope?

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 16:01:23

Pear is a boys name.

OTheHugeRaveningWolef Fri 23-Sep-11 16:05:08

Marie Rose? After the sauce on the 70s prawn and avocado buffet dish?

allhailtheaubergine Fri 23-Sep-11 16:24:07

Now that's thinking outside the (veg) box.

OTheHugeRaveningWolef Fri 23-Sep-11 16:36:29

If you're thinking about the outside of the veg box, what about Abel or Cole?

munstersmum Fri 23-Sep-11 16:43:51

Avoca - means great river

schobe Fri 23-Sep-11 16:44:38

Snort at 'Pear is a boy's name'.

CocktailQueen - sorry, Jane was just an example of the opposite sort of name that aubers is angling for. As you say, nowt wrong wi'it. <quakes>

ShoutyHamster Fri 23-Sep-11 16:56:48

Demelza

frutilla Fri 23-Sep-11 16:59:04

I like Persimmon, and Persephone. Percy is sweet for a girl. Also like my username, frutilla, pronounced "fruiteesha", the word for strawberry in latin america.

lollystix Fri 23-Sep-11 20:01:51

Ds1 told me girl' in his class called mango. I didn't believe him thinking he'd heard it wrong but checked with another mum today and it's true. How odd? Poor girl.

EdithWeston Fri 23-Sep-11 20:03:49

Mango? Transferred surname, isn't it?

Honeydragon Fri 23-Sep-11 20:07:14

Shouty you can just turn up, suggest Pingu and leave!

Are we doing both genders?

lollystix Fri 23-Sep-11 20:07:33

We passed her in the street - her mum looked slightly Spanish/Brazilian etc so not sure if it could be a foreign name.

plainwhitet Sat 24-Sep-11 11:31:00

Person?
In supermarket: "Person! Person! get here right now" (crowd runs to you)

notnowImreading Sat 24-Sep-11 11:40:05

I like the connotations of Persephone. Think about it: beautiful maiden - nice; adored by her mother - nice; abducted by the god of the dead - less nice, I admit; resourceful girl makes the best of a bad job, makes him fall utterly in love with her and becomes queen - reasonable outcome for tricky situation; returns every year to the world, bringing light, life and springtime - lovely; symbolises fertility, wealth and spiritual enlightenment - pretty great too. Plus she had Cerberus - best pet ever. The Persephone story is the origin of Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast and is all about growing up, so mostly positive.

allhailtheaubergine Sat 24-Sep-11 13:00:34

You put forward a good argument. But the myth is known as 'The Rape of Persephone' which is not brilliant. And isn't the etymology of her name supposed to be 'bringer of death'?

nevergoogle Sat 24-Sep-11 13:03:02

what's wrong with just Percy. perfectly nice name.

missmiss Sat 24-Sep-11 13:23:54

Persephone probably means "sheaf-beater", hence her connection with Demeter and the harvest. She's pre-Greek. There's an interesting summary here if you're interested in historical linguistics and philology.

ShoutyHamster Sat 24-Sep-11 16:10:32

Hah I thought a quick exit best after Pingu, honeydragon grin

I really, really like Persephone - said as a classics graduate. You could get her a puppy ok maybe just a gerbil called Cerberus!

Personally I think you could get away with Persimmon, so I'm not the best person to ask about anything.

Persephone Persimmon? Let's hope your surname isn't Phillips grin

cat64 Sat 24-Sep-11 16:37:49

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Panzee Sat 24-Sep-11 16:47:18

How about Lawyer? Abogado(s?) is lawyer in Spanish.

TangerineQueen Sun 25-Sep-11 19:13:03

Aw someone already had my Orchid idea. Quite nice actually!

So I present you with..... Asteridiella, a form of mildew which plagues the avocado. (Astrid?!)

Or more seriously Laura or Laurel or Lorelai or something pertaining to the order of the species.

allhailtheaubergine Sun 25-Sep-11 19:39:05

Lorelai came up on my last thread too. Funny - we've gone full circle.

I just know 100% that we have found the right boys name, and I want to feel as certain about a girls name. I feel as though I'm skirting around it but haven't found it yet.

dottyT Sun 25-Sep-11 23:17:42

have you read The Avocado Baby? highly recommend it. very relaxing for all parents. Your children might enjoy it too.

agree about Persis - a shame because the reference to her in the Bible which filters through into Anne of GG, is "the beloved Persis" - which is a lovely phrase and I don't think said about any other woman.

[if on culinary matters what about adding Marmite for the boy? has certain ring to it... could have Honey if a girl.. round us there was a fashion for derivatives of wine types: Merlot, Chardonay, ]

what sort of refs do you want?

ShoutyHamster Mon 26-Sep-11 09:50:13

Maybe move away from the Pers- sound and start all over again for a bit?

Do you have any other nationalities/ethnicities in your family that you could plunder for inspiration?

Some COMPLETELY random names:

Linnet
Olga
Heulwen
Georgina
Tamar
Juno

LynnCSchreiber Mon 26-Sep-11 09:57:03

I just knew this would be you.

I knew a family who had fab unusual names.

Rebekha (ok, not so unusual, but it was in Germany)
Torben
Berenike
Vanessa

BarryShitpeas Mon 26-Sep-11 10:09:24

Tamar means date in Arabic.

LynnCSchreiber Mon 26-Sep-11 10:21:51

Tamaris

Damaris

mumzy Tue 27-Sep-11 00:24:37

Right, you want fruit names: Clementine, Guava, Pomelo, Morello, Durian, Lychee, Logan, Honeydew

allhailtheaubergine Tue 27-Sep-11 06:19:24

Durian is terrible.

voscar Tue 27-Sep-11 21:04:41

What about Ava? Particularly where people have accents the o in avocado is pronounced as an a. I know in Scotland that's how we pronounce it

LynnPW Fri 30-Sep-11 17:12:03

It's Latin, so it would be per-say-ah. I'm not great on Latin, but do work with botanists.

exaltedwombat Fri 30-Sep-11 18:03:17

A few years ago I worked with an accomplished young actor named Smedley. Because his scan looked like a bean. He seems to have survived very well.

Grainger Fri 30-Sep-11 18:56:29

Someone has already suggested avoca, and judging by their mumsnet name I'm guessing they are Irish. There is a chain of shops in Ireland called Avoca and they sell all sorts of lovely things. One of those posh gift shop type places. Do lovely food too.

http://www.avoca.ie/home/

NotADudeExactly Fri 30-Sep-11 19:09:47

It's pronounced per-SAY-ah if you want to go with the Latin.

I have not been able to find it in a dictionary. However, genus are usually plural (AFAIK no exceptions), which would make the singular "perseum" in this case. This would make this a neutral, gender wise. Not sure if you care (I wouldn't particularly) but I thought you might want to know.

It sounds pretty.

allhailtheaubergine Fri 30-Sep-11 19:18:30

Perseum is good! Dh likes it too.

I still like Persea, but I don't like it pronounced Per-say-a. But if something is pronounced a right way you can't really change it. Oh well.

Persimmon is still hovering in top place.

Clementine is good but possibly too popular. Not so keen on Avoca (sounds like that horrid orange drink) or Ava - 50% of dd's friends are called Eva and Ava and Evie and Mia and Maia and so on.

Oooh, hang on, what about Ivy? Can Ivy be short for anything? Oh no, it sounds like I.V. (intravenous).

seeker Fri 30-Sep-11 19:23:20

I SO want someone to call their baby Clemency. Any chance you might oblige?

allhailtheaubergine Fri 30-Sep-11 19:28:25

Clemency. No. I don't like that there are so many girls names listing appropriately feminine attributes, though I'll grant you Clemency is not as bad as most of them.

Faith
Hope
Charity
Prudence
Chastity
Honour
Grace

No.

NotADudeExactly Fri 30-Sep-11 19:31:51

Faithless?

I'd go with it - but DH is a theist!

NotADudeExactly Fri 30-Sep-11 19:32:28

(Disgrace would be a bit too much, I suppose.)

seeker Fri 30-Sep-11 19:39:04

Clemency isn't a soppy female virtue- it's a wonderful unisex attribute.

Mind you, I speak as a woman who nearly 16 years ago thought that Grace was a charmingly old fashioned and incredibly unusual name. And who was horrified to discover that Christian friends thought that we had chosen the name because we had finally had a child after 20 years of trying! When in fact it took us 20 years to get round to it, and she arrived precisely 9 months after we first decided we might quite ike a baby!

allhailtheaubergine Fri 30-Sep-11 20:04:32

It is, but you don't get boys called Clemency. Grace is a lovely name and a wonderful attribute, but it somehow rankles that you don't get boys called Athleticism or Reasonableness.

RnB Fri 30-Sep-11 20:06:18

I wanted to call ds1 Lupin. Pressure stopped that from happening angry

largeginandtonic Fri 30-Sep-11 20:23:31

I quite like it. Just plain old Avocado.

I will be a terrible influence as my dc have mostly bonkers names.

DD1 had a narrow escape from Tiger Lily. Dc8 is due in 8 weeks, i did have a name picked but am wavering.

allhailtheaubergine Sat 01-Oct-11 08:18:22

No. Even I can see that Avocado is a silly name. Can you imagine walking into a room and saying "hi there, I'm Avocado"?

Tigerlilly is nice. But we have a close friend called something very similar so it's not on the list.

ShoutyHamster Sat 01-Oct-11 09:16:49

Go with Persimmon.

Once you think about it for a bit, it is lovely. It just isn't what we're used to. Why is Persimmon any different as a word to name someone than Penelope or Jonathan?

Persi, Perri, Mimmi, Penny, Sim - all possible nicknames.

I think it's absolutely fine and that she is likely to love it, and to cover your backs give her a very normal mn. Persimmon Anna, Persimmon Lucy, Persimmon Sophia. Worst case scenario, she HATES it and uses her mn.

seeker Sat 01-Oct-11 14:46:54

All hail- I bet there are as many boys called Clement as girls called Clemency!

allhailtheaubergine Sat 01-Oct-11 16:38:29

Yeah okay. After due consideration I take it back - Clemency does not belong with Chastity, Patience and Doormat. It is a good name, and I do know a chap called Clement.

I still think Reasonableness is a good name.

seeker Sat 01-Oct-11 16:46:25

What about reintroducing Puritan names? PraiseGod , Thankfulness, Diffidence, Dust......

allhailtheaubergine Sat 01-Oct-11 16:57:48

I do like Bonniface and Loveday.

DesertOrchid Sat 01-Oct-11 18:14:38

I rather like Persimmon, I am glad that's still up there!

TooImmature2BDumbledore Sat 01-Oct-11 22:49:22

Damn, DH has just vetoed Dust. And Loveday. If I ever write a book, the main character will be called Loveday.

Lettice?

allhailtheaubergine Sun 02-Oct-11 06:52:20

Why is Dust a Puritan name?

Hooray! 2 votes for Persimmon. Sorry to all the haters, I really think if this baby is a little girl she will be Persimmon.

seeker Sun 02-Oct-11 07:00:05

<starts rearguard action>

Promise won't call her Percy then. Even if you spell it Persi.

seeker Sun 02-Oct-11 07:01:19

Dust - as "All flesh is......."

Carmel206 Sun 02-Oct-11 07:49:09

the irish word for avocado is abhcoide (avcweede) not great i grant you but possibly other languages may have better sounding translations?

twooter Sun 02-Oct-11 08:46:08

If you like persimmon, how about Barrett (as an alternative home build) ?

ShoutyHamster Sun 02-Oct-11 10:34:00

Eeek Persimmon Loveday totally goes against my suggestion for a sensible mn BUT is probably the most amazing name I've heard for ages!

My DH vetoed Loveday (grr)

largeginandtonic Sun 02-Oct-11 11:32:42

< swoon > at Persimmon Loveday.

It makes me want a pink one to call that. Go on, do it.

My sis is pregnant, i wander if i can convince her to have a Persimmon Loveday...

vividgingerchilli Sun 02-Oct-11 14:12:02

Persimmon - will he/she be a builder when she/he grows up?!

Struggling to imagine calling the register and getting to Persimmon...or Avocado.. At least it's original!

ChippingIn Sun 02-Oct-11 14:24:55

For the love of god your hormones really are playing up aren't they grin

Avocado is better than Persimmon!! Neither of them pass the 'walk into the room test' IMO

Your poor poor DH sad

grin

vividgingerchilli Sun 02-Oct-11 16:27:13

What is the "walk into room" test?!

Panzee Sun 02-Oct-11 16:37:01

Is it like the Playground test? That's when you imagine shouting your chosen name across a crowded playground.

eg: :"AVOCAAAAAAAAAAAADO!" grin

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