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Matching first name to surname

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bessmum · 15/08/2008 20:42

How important do you think it is to have a good balance between the first name and surname, in terms of length, number of syllables etc? Our surname is short, one syllable. Longer first names seem to sound better, but there is the risk that they'll get shortened so defeating the object. (Ending up with something like Tom Jones, for example, which to me sounds a bit abrupt). DH thinks I'm thinking too much about this and should just pick a name we like, he's probably right, what do folks think?

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artichokes · 15/08/2008 20:44

I would not worry about matching long and short. Find a name you love and go with it as long as it does not seriously clash with your last name (e.g. by making a rude word or becoming a tongue twister).

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Monchichi · 15/08/2008 20:52

I agree with you actually, it's fairly important.

I agree that a short sur name needs a long first name (even if you shorten it for day to day).

eg, Anne Stone sounds very abrupt. It doesn't sound like a name, even, it sounds like 'Anstone'. Annie Stone works better, it's easier to tell exactly what the first name is. Annabel Stone flows well. It has a pattern. There is a name for this pattern actually, I read this somewhere but I can't remember the name of the pattern.

Another thing I'm not crazy about is, say, Ingrid Piaccentini. Too culturally confusing. Maribel O'Reilly.
Fabienne Krisonowski, Bronwen Zachariades IYSWIM.

I think if one of the names is English that's ok, but if both names are foreign, and neither is English then it is a cultural overload.

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barnsleybelle · 15/08/2008 20:58

We have a very long surname so picked short first names for both ds and dd. I'm glad we did as ds already hates having to write his full name at school!!

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hillbilly · 15/08/2008 21:43

Totally agree with barnsleybelle. We did the same.

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hellebores · 16/08/2008 18:35

Contentious question potentially - but what's wrong with a name being short or 'abrupt' as you put it.. intrigued to hear the answer?

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bessmum · 16/08/2008 20:07

Not sure really, I have a short first name myself. When I got married and took DH's one syllable surname I always felt that the combination of my names never quite sounded quite right - when introducing myself it just sounds "abrupt" to me (A bit like the examples Monchichi gives). One of the names we love will inevitably get shortened so I think I am looking for reassurance that I'm being a bit daft here really!

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moondog · 16/08/2008 20:09

You are either barking or bored senseless to be wasting time worrying over this trivia.

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CvQ · 16/08/2008 20:10

my sons first name and surname are both one syllable but his first name was too important for me to let go of

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bessmum · 16/08/2008 20:14

Fair point moondog, probably both, though I'm not worried about it. I'll shut up though.

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nooka · 16/08/2008 20:27

I agree. You want the whole name to sound harmonious. My dd has always used her full name for formal occasions until we got to the US where she decided that she liked the way that Americans say her short name (hitherto used only by friends and family) and now all her school stuff has only her short name. With our very short surname I don't think it sounds (or looks) right at all. Not the end of the world of course, but I prefer the three syllable full name with our one syllable surname. But I'm quite a fussy namer!

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hellebores · 16/08/2008 20:48

'harmonious'?

isn't this all a way of saying you don't want the child's name (and by crazy implication - the child) to sound uninteresting..?

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nooka · 16/08/2008 20:52

Nope. I have a very interesting (and harmonious) name. I just think names should have a good rhythm. That is when you say the first name alone, the first name plus surname, and the full name they should sound good. Now what sounds good to me may not sound good to you, so it is entirely personal. For example I think Fifi Trixibelle Geldoff is an utterly stupid name, but I also think it sounds nice.

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hw2004 · 16/08/2008 20:54

I think it's important. i have quite a short, sharp surname and so it kind of rules out very short names like Jack for me.

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LongLiveCuckoo · 17/08/2008 19:44

I think one abrupt name is fine, but not two. anne Stone eg would be awful. Anne Stoneman or Annie Stone would be more balanced.

Not a big deal. If I meet a person I don't think, ooooh there name is so unbalanced oh my God. But, that doesn't mean that it's not worthwhile putting somet thought in to the matter, so that the whole name flows well.

Why do slebs feel the need to change their names?! Julia Roberts was once Julie Roberts.

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Vulgar · 17/08/2008 20:12

Oh dear -ds's name is so obviously culturally confusing.

but then to look at him with us would be too.

I don't think there are any hard and fast rules with names . . .

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