Trying to make a name work

[Aiwo]

I'm trying desperately to make the name work but I just can't seem to. I'm trying to honour a Bridget Mary but in Welsh

Anyone think of an arrangement that works or am I just being silly and it doesn't sound odd at all.

The one I go back to but worry it sounds weird is:

Ffraid Mair

Opinions ?

[WhyCantIuseTheNameIWant]

Is Brigid welsh?

Brigid mair?

iPad just suggested Mari...

[PattyPenguin]

Ffraid Mair is absolutely right in Welsh.

Ffraid was a very, very popular saint in medieval Wales - just look at all the places called Llansanffraid / St Bride's.

Incidentally, Brigid, supposedly an Irish saint, is in fact a recycled Celtic goddess, which is really cool.

However, Ffraid runs a huge risk of being turned into Fred or Fried Fish or similar. I would love it to be used in Wales, but I can see why parents might not want to take that risk.

Mair is still used a bit - there's a TV presenter called Angharad Mair, and her second name is the Christian name meaning Mary, it's not the Scottish surname pronounced like "mare".

Again, the name the basis of all those places called Llanfair.

If Mair won't work, you could use Mari - short a, not Mah-ree like Marie Lloyd. Or Meirwen, which means Blessed Mary.

[Aiwo]

WhyCantI
Brigid is Gaelic :( Ffraid is the only option for Bridget
But yes Mari is the other option

Patty
Thanks
That is my concern with Ffraid. I guess there is a reason you don't hear it a lot.

I've tried moving it around.
Mair Ffraid
Mari Ffraid
Ffraid Mari
But none of them sound great :(
Or maybe it is just me

[PattyPenguin]

I think Meirwen Ffraid could work.

Ffraid as a middle name would be used less, and you could call her Mair as a nickname for / shortening of Meirwen.

[Aiwo]

Patty thanks
I know what you are saying and objectively in many ways it does sound better. But I just don't like Meirwen/Mairwen :(

You are right about the Ffraid in the middle name spot. But then I worry that it isn't 'Bridget Mary' (I know it still is) And even though we have settled on that name we still don't know what we would call her (both, the middle name, the first one etc)

Ahhhh

[Raines100]

Simplest thing would be to use Ffraid Mair as middle names and pick a first name of your choice. Or use Bridget Mary as mn and pick a Welsh first name of your choice.
Then you can have what you want, in the order that you want, in the language that you want- but your dd doesn't have to live with a first name you don't like.

[BuffaloCustardbath]

I personally would put both names Ffraid Mair as middles names in that order and choose a name that you both love as the first name.

[Aiwo]

Raines and Buffalo

I know exactly what you are both saying, honestly I do.
I just always thought I would call a daughter a version of Bridget Mary/Ffraid Mair and as much as I can't seem to make it work I just don't want to send it to the middle name.

Some days I really like Mair and think we would just use that. Then I worry that Mair Ffraid sounds odd

Then I think that Ffraid is different in sound and think may Ffrai (Fry) is somehow very modern of a nickname.

But then I worry if I chose Ffraid Mair and want to call her Mair I'm causing an issue.
And maybe we should just use Ffraid Mair as one name and see what develops

I do think I am set on her being called one/both however.

Ahh, it would be easier is Ffraid didn't sound the way it does :(

[froggyjump]

I know quite a few kids known by their middle names, such as Rosemary Claire, known as Claire (mainly have first names honouring relatives etc) so Ffrai Mair, known as Mair seems great to me.