Christian, Cían, Ciar

(49 Posts)
casey101 Fri 05-Jun-15 15:49:34

Hi guys
Which do you like best out of the above? I really lke Christian but was thinking bit hard to spell and pronounce. Was thinking about putting Christian on birth certificate then everyday nickname of Cian or Ciar. What do you think and which do you prefer? Thank you!

florascotia Fri 05-Jun-15 16:13:12

I think most people would use 'Chris' as the everyday name of Christian. It's fairly widely-known - eg famous mountaineer Sir Chris Bonnington.

Or else they might use 'Kit', or even 'Kester'; both are old short versions of the realted name, Christopher. Both are very easy to spell and say.

'Cian' and 'Ciar' are names from a completely different language than 'Christian'. They have no links with the name and sound very different, as well (approx 'Kean' and 'Keir'). Their pronounciation is not difficult, but it's not obvious to many people, either. I can't see how anyone would think of them as nicknames for Christian.

If you like them, why not use one of them as your baby's name? They are both good names.

florascotia Fri 05-Jun-15 16:17:56

Should be 'related name'. Sorry for bad typing.

I will leave Irish Mumsnetters to comment on the fada on Cian.

casey101 Fri 05-Jun-15 19:02:20

I'm preferring putting the fada on as otherwise all I see is Ian and I dont like that name no offense to any Ians! I don't like the nickname chris which is why i was trying to think of something else. I know christian is greek and latin and the others are irish/ celtic, just throwing ideas around at the moment, thanks both smile

casey101 Fri 05-Jun-15 19:03:02

I mean thanks florascotia smile

florascotia Fri 05-Jun-15 19:36:28

Fadas are not decoration - they change pronounciation. And sometimes they are just wrong! It really would be a good idea to check, to save your son any possible future embarassment.

Peanut14 Fri 05-Jun-15 19:40:11

Cian is a lovely name,there is no fada on it. As already said a fada changes the pronunciation of the name. I'm a big fanof the name Cian.

ButterflyOfFreedom Fri 05-Jun-15 20:25:02

Love Christian!

sweetpeame Fri 05-Jun-15 22:10:14

I'm sorry but it's completely ridiculous to put a fada on Cian because you don't want it to look like Ian... As previous posters here (and on your other threads) have commented a fada changes the sound of the letter and therefore word, you simply cannot just add them in because you feel like it (well I suppose you can but people will think you can't spell and frankly it will be an embarrassment for your son to explain in the future). I'm sorry to be harsh but spell Cian properly.

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 17:00:23

sweetpeame Ye ma'am! Kidding ;) I have seen it spelt that way online but clearly from what you say that was incorrect. Thanks everyone for all your comments!

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 17:03:21

Also in previous threads I had put the fada over the 'a' whereas in this one it was over the 'i' as, as mentioned, I had seen both online, but happy to stand corrected, second-hand! smile It sounds like you feel the same way about the fada as I do when I hear people incorrectly pronounce the letter 'H' as 'haitch'- it sets my teeth on edge!

villainousbroodmare Sun 07-Jun-15 18:35:55

Cén fáth atá ainm Gaelach ag teastáil uait?

ImpatiencePersonified Sun 07-Jun-15 18:42:09

My husbands name is Christian and he has absolutely no problem spelling or people pronouncing it - if you love the name, don't shorten it... he's almost 40 and is called Christian, not Chris or Cian or anything else.

Follow your gut grin

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:16:27

Villainousbroodmare I don't know what you said but it looks lovely- unless you were insulting me! haha. Dydwi ddim yn siarad gaelic/ irish! Pwy t'in siarad cymraeg? Diolch y'n fawr smile

Impatience...thank you smile

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:19:06

ps Impatience...I meant more it would be hard for my son to spell growing up smile

villainousbroodmare Sun 07-Jun-15 20:26:51

grin Casey, I asked in Irish why you want an Irish name. I don't speak any Welsh! grin
I'm asking because in one sense you seem so interested but at the same time you are saying about various names that when you look at them written, you simply see an English word or name. And that seems to be why you want to add a fada or choose a particular spelling.
I would be the same if contemplating names in a language that meant nothing to me - it's natural to relate unfamiliar words to words we know.
I'm curious - is there an Irish connection? Did you mention Northern Irish in some other thread?

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:32:16

yes both his paternal grandparents were northern irish but he will be born in wales. i also have scottish heritage so a bit of a mix and i do like celtic names. or at least the idea of them. The initial C is special to me, hence I wanted a name beginning with C but just can't find one I love. Kind of liked the Welsh Cai but have a Kai in the immediate family.

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:34:08

ps regarding seeing Ian in Cian it's because I used to know an Ian who was horrible and it put me off!

villainousbroodmare Sun 07-Jun-15 20:36:19

Conor?
Colman?
Conn?
Colm?

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:38:21

Thank you Vill.... I have literally scoured the websites and books and still nothing. I tend to like 'open' names as well ie ending in a vowel which is why unsure about Cian and Christian and why I like Cai. :D

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:40:40

Considered Cory until someone said it sounds like Corrie ie Coronation Street! Plus I think it's Corey which is the Irish version and don't like the meaning which is 'seething pool'!

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:41:21

I think my baby is not going to have a name until he is around 3 years old!

casey101 Sun 07-Jun-15 20:43:55

I did like Finn but obviously that doesnt start with a C plus is quite popular/ trendy which means will soon sound 'dated'? maybe?

villainousbroodmare Sun 07-Jun-15 20:44:14

How close is the Kai in the family? I have cousins who have the same name and I don't believe it causes a problem.

gointothewoods Sun 07-Jun-15 20:46:25

Cian doesn't have a fada.
I do like the name but it's quite common these days.
Never heard of Ciar - I would just think Ciar-a or Ciaran (as in Keer-a and Keer-an).

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