Why is st.john pronounced

(103 Posts)

Serginon?

SoupDragon Sat 19-Oct-13 10:43:43

it isn't. Isn't in Sin Gin?

SoupDragon Sat 19-Oct-13 10:44:21

Isn't it Sin Gin.

Not that it answers the question grin I guess you have to be very very posh to understand.

fusspot66 Sat 19-Oct-13 10:44:25

Do you mean Sin Jin ?

Hassled Sat 19-Oct-13 10:44:48

Yes - Sin Gin is right. As to why - no idea. I used to know a StJohn - he was lovely.

fusspot66 Sat 19-Oct-13 10:48:07

For the same reason as Cholmondly is pronounced Chumley.
It's knobishness devised by the toffs to keep the plebs on the outside.

I remember being bemused by this name at English a level - he was a love interest in Jane eyre I think. Or Tess of the D'Urbervilles? It's Sin Jin btwwink

curlew Sat 19-Oct-13 10:54:52

It's more like Synj'n than SinJin. Like a posh version of a glottal stop.

And it's one of the specially designed unwritten rules that enable the posh to spot the non posh however hard the non posh try to "pass". I know them all- will pass them on for a fee. Like which fork you use to eat asparagus.........grin

Curlow, do you know, I was thinking the same about the pronunciation but wasn't sure how to describe it in words - well done!

"Curlew" sorry

Theironfistofarkus Sat 19-Oct-13 11:06:30

On my very first day at work we had a meet and greet drinks event in the evening. Everyone was wearing badges and I was asked to introduce the people I was chatting to to a more senior person. One of the badges said St John. I was utterly baffled and thought to myself "surely he isn't called Saint John. Help!". Had never seen anything like it and thought it was utterly hilarious. Was luckily rescued by someone in the group who did know.

I think you pronounce it Sin j'n - got to know the guy after that.

Alisvolatpropiis Sat 19-Oct-13 11:23:20

What other names are there that generally posh people use which sound nothing like the way they are spelt?

curlew Sat 19-Oct-13 11:29:22

Beauchamp
Belvoir

Oh, and Wednesday grin

DontCallMeDaughter Sat 19-Oct-13 11:29:48

Beauchamp is pronounced Bee-chum. There is a Beauchamp Street in London that I struggled to find, no one knew what I was talking about until some helpful Toff told me is was Beechum Street and it was just around the corner... hmm

YoureBeingADick Sat 19-Oct-13 11:30:14

Ooh this has reminded me of an irish name 'conchubhair' which is just connor grin had me stumped for a while till i had a better grasp of irish.

DontCallMeDaughter Sat 19-Oct-13 11:30:40

Gah, x-post with the knowledgable Curlew...

curlew Sat 19-Oct-13 11:31:49

Featherstonehaugh.......

MrsBungle Sat 19-Oct-13 11:32:56

Yes I thought it was more sin Jun. had no idea about beachamp!

MrsBungle Sat 19-Oct-13 11:33:37

Beauchamp even

YoureBeingADick Sat 19-Oct-13 11:34:36

How do you say featherstonehaugh?

Confusedbyyou Sat 19-Oct-13 11:35:53

Are you talking about first names?

Are there people whose first name is spelt St. John but pronouced Synj'n

<<once again proving my WC roots>>

OiVaVoi Sat 19-Oct-13 11:37:05

Magdalen college

Bowlersarm Sat 19-Oct-13 11:37:12

Isn't it pronounced Sin Gin as a first name, but St John as a surname?

I tripped up on Grosvenor - pronounced it Gross-venor for a while (only to myself luckily)

BinarySolo Sat 19-Oct-13 11:39:14

I remember a radio 1 competition phone in when they were doing the roadshow in Leicester. They asked where the mosquito coast was reply was 'Belvoir Street' (pronounced beaver). Dj snorted with derision and said 'no it bell voir street. Pfft beaver? Hahaha'

Dick.

charleslingus Sat 19-Oct-13 11:40:45

Youre, it's pronounces fanshaw, belvoir is beaver, cholmondley is chummly

The stjohn I knew was sinjun.

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