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Feeling sick to my stomach that Katie Price has just named her baby the same name as my son!(141 Posts)
Currently holding my head in my hands rocking back and forth screaming "whhhhyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!"
Well, not really..... But I feel like doing that. I thought I had hit the jackpot with Jett, unique yet masculine and not too weird sounding and now KATIE PRICE has named her son Jett too.
Sorry, just had to have a rant.
Katie Price just makes it sound tacky
Sorry, you can't blame poor KP for that.............
I think if you're going to give your child a naff 'try hard' name you have to be prepared for naff celebrities to possible choose the same name.
Ladylurksalot Dress it up however you want, with as many post scripts and codicils as you can think of, but the fact is you are not leading by your own example. If you don't like KP then fair enough, but if you were as nice as you think you are, or other people should be, then you wouldn't have utilised the OP's post to vent your opinions on her, most of which are unrelated to the actual baby name issue.
Katie Price just makes it sound tacky
It's really a bit shallow to go off a name you put some thought into and obv liked at one point just because someone else whom you don't like or respect has used it.
Using 'What Would Katie Price Do?' as the way to judge a name is sort of indulging in the same silliness KP spends her time at, ironically.
Cloudkitten I very much do admit that I have been rude about someone, the difference is that she has asked for it. She lives her life in front of the media, and makes her living out of people having an opinion, positive or negative. She feeds the most controversial aspects of her life to the press because it makes her money. So no, ok, she didn't directly ask for my opinion, but she does base her whole public life on people having an opinion of her. So factually, yes is the answer.
As an example, why did she even feel the need to seek her most recent birth story to the Sun, and why did they buy it? She sold it knowing that either people want to buy it because they're interested, or people will have an opinion of it, which in turn will generate interest in it = pounds and publicity for Kp = how she makes a living. If people didn't care, the sun wouldn't have bought it. So she is selling the rights to people having an opinion.
Yes it is my opinion that she is undesirable, and I accept that that is a rude opinion to have of her, but that is how she makes her living. Out of people having an opinion, and I'm pretty sure she has accepted that, I'm equally sure she has a number of strategies in place to prevent it from being an issue for her.
The Two situations are completely different, and the message is being lost now. Yes I have a very public negative opinion of somebody who actively sells her life to the world for people to have an opinion about. For money. The op is a normal mum, without a team of support staff around her, who came here looking for sympathy, and instead got people's rudeness!
Ladylurksalot You are completely contradicting yourself. Please read back your own posts where you are rude about someone (and admit it) who had never asked your <very public> opinion either, but then here you are saying if we can't be nice then don't say anything especially when an opinion wasn't even being sought in the first place.
"I think I'm perfectly within my rights to call someone an undesirable if that is what they are" - (in your opinion but did that person ask you, and is it a nice thing to say? No and No are the factual answers). So you are simultaneously (santimoniously) admonishing people whilst being guilty of doing it yourself. In the very same post! Bravo!
Whatwhatwhat - I think I'm perfectly within my rights to call someone an undesirable if that is what they are. I have no desire to be like kp, justifiably so, therefore I find her an undesirable person. It is using that link that I am able to sympathise with the OP.
Cloudkitten you make a fair point, except that in the majority of threads on mumsnet, an opinion is actually asked for
This happened, was I right...
Come and judge...
What do you think of this bag/pram/house...
Or I'm thinking of giving my future ds/dd this name, what do you honestly think?
Not this is my ds/dd's name, this rubbish thing has happened, now come and sympathise.
Nowhere was an opinion about the name asked for, nor was it necessary to give it. If you couldn't be nice walk away from the thread.
As an alternative, you wouldn't walk into a bereavement thread and say 'well they were old, what did you expect' so I don't buy that people can't engage their sensitivity chip before their typing fingers. Imagine how the OP felt when she was reading some of those oh so important opinions about the name she has already used for her DS.
When your kid says they want to be like Katie/Jordan/whatever when they grow up - THEN you have something to worry about!
I really wouldn't worry OP. Most people have no idea what Katie Price named her baby.
Jett is a great name. Enjoy your little Jett and don't give the Barbie Princess's Jett another thought!
Ha ha. At least you thought the point was valid!
Wouldn't have thought I was a professional offendee more like a professional offender - IRL anyway
Apologies for any snarkiness. None intended.
no whatwhatwhat I haven't taken in names or who said what, it's just glancing through the text. I think it was the "I second the 'if you can't say anything nice - then press the hide button" (not relevant who said it) that I was mostly thinking of. I mean this is MN. There would be mayve 5 open discussions if people pressed the hide button on the basis they didn't have anything nice to say
Having said that now I have cast my eye over your post specifically, I think your point was valid. Although, being completely honest, you did come across (to me) as a bit of a professional offendee type, which always makes my teeth itch. Especially with the added snark about the grip.
Don't know if that reply is directed to me or not Cloudkitten.
I was/am offended at someone being called an "undesirable" not "differing opinions on baby names".
Thanks for the grip if it was for me. I'll see if I can put it to good use.
It wouldn't bother me, she's just a person who's son has the same name as yours. The only thing id be thinking is well it become more popular now. I have 5 sons and Jett hasn't been on my list for any of them, although it might have been if id seen this thread before they were born.
Ds3 was born right in the middle of the Tommy story line in eastenders. I still named him Tommy and as yet noone has asked me if I named him after an eastenders character, I wonder if the name is more popular now though.
Poor kp, Tommy was 8 weeks early which was quite scary. Luckily he was only in hospital for 10 days and is now 2.5 and the size of a 4 year old
I think you would have to be spanking brand new to Mumsnet not to know you will get all kinds of opinions, some of them forthright, some of them supportive, on any post you start within the topic "Baby Names".
If anyone is seriously offended by differing opinions on baby names then they don't have much to worry about and should be happy about that instead. Good grief, get a grip.
OP: I feel your pain over the name though.
I think it's a cool name actually - it's deffinately unusual!
I wouldn't immediately think of kp. I understand your disappointment but I don't think people would think of kp
KATIE PRICE HAS HAD A BABY????
I am seriously out of the loop.
Jett is nice, but as others have said it is quite celebby
Whatwhatwhat - the difference, IMO, is that KP makes a living out of people having an opinion of her. If I were to meet her IRL, or even on here, I would do as I have suggested, and either be polite, or say nothing.
Unfortunately, KP was at the height of her success around the time I was up all night with small babies. I ended up reading one of her books, and catching some of her reality shows. As such, the opinion I have of her, is one that she has herself given me. If you scrutinise her life story, things she says don't add up, she has sold out every aspect of her life for a quick buck, and has only stopped doing so in order to appear superior to PA. By 'her ilk' I'm merely describing people who conduct themselves in the same manner.
She is not a positive role model, she made money initially through her looks, but has since gone on to sell every aspect of her life, which at times has been incredibly dull, so she made stuff up. If KP were to read this, I doubt she'd care, because frankly, if she did, she probably wouldn't be where she is today. None the less, I find the life she puts out there, undesirable; and would not like any association with it. Which has absolutely nothing to do with any caste system. She could fit anywhere in a caste system and I would still find her vulgar. Equally I find K a t i e H o p k i n s vulgar, again, nothing to with caste systems. They both have these personas that they readily put out there, that I find distasteful. You're right, I don't know them, but what they let us see, I don't like.
For me, a particular low point from KP was when she publicly slated Jade Goody for courting the press while fighting cancer, when I knew I had seen her doing the exact same thing about discovering cancer in her finger.
While I accept I have been rude about KP, I think, like KH she makes a living out of getting a reaction, so would probably be more disappointed if people didn't have an opinion.
The OP however, is reading these responses. She is a normal person, without a team of publicists and pr people and probably therapists, who came on here to have a moan - and I sympathise. Why people felt the need to be rude to her is beyond me, when they could have just walked away. If KP had called her son James, I think the OP would have had more sympathy from some of the nasty posters. The point of the thread was not to discuss the name, it was to discuss the association.
I haven't contributed at all to this thread. I don't have a lot to say on the topic.
Until I saw that LadyLurksalot said that "Wow! Threads like this are the reason I avoid this topic. Some of you have been so astoundingly rude and nasty."
"It's the association with KP and her ilk that most people would like to avoid. Last week your Ds had an unusual, non conformist cool name, today it's been linked to an undesirable"
I haven't considered the whole thread but from scanning it it is clear that there have been some nasty and unwarranted comments from people to the OP.
I'm not a fan of Jordan/Katie Price - I don't have much of an opinion about her, what with not actually knowing her. But I can not see how referring to her "and her ilk" as an "undesirable" is anything less than astoundingly rude and nasty. Echoes of the caste system. She had a child and she named him as she saw fit. As she's perfectly entitled to. She, nor anyone else, doesn't deserve such vitriol.
I used to want Jett as my sons name, from the James Dean character in Giant, I always thought it had some 50's cool about it. Must say the KP version sounds a bit more pornstar and less 50's cool to me and its pretty ruined!!
Wow! Threads like this are the reason I avoid this topic. Some of you have been so astoundingly rude and nasty. I second the 'if you can't say anything nice - then press the hide button' because ultimately, this is not a face to face conversation you are having, where you might have to, through gritted teeth, give a polite response. It is a forum where the Op would never know if you slunk away because you couldn't show some manners.
I love how some posters have referred to it as not being a real name. What quantifies something as being a real name then? How did Oliver become a real name? Is there an approved list that I somehow missed? Or do a certain number of people have to hold the name before it becomes real? Where do all you real-name-mustn't-be-a-shortening-won't-be-a-high-court-judge think the names we use today come from? They've evolved, from names used in history, and if they didn't we wouldn't have the diverse amount of names we have now. Along the way, people will throw in a couple of randoms, and over time, they too will become accepted.
I could go on and on
more than I have.
OP I get totally what you're saying. Fwiw I don't think it will become popular, but that's not necessarily the problem. Actually most people will probably avoid it now, except the KP wannabes. That, I suspect is the problem. It's the association with KP and her ilk that most people would like to avoid. Last week your Ds had an unusual, non conformist cool name, today it's been linked to an undesirable. BUT she does seem to be closing herself off a little bit
hopefully and apart from this attention seeking story, she does tend to keep the children out of the limelight more than before so hopefully this baby will be heard of less than the other children were. I do think her star is fading, but you have my sympathies none the less. I think a few of us with Dc's whose names were not from the approved list could have been caught out by KP. As someone else has stated, she doesn't follow a set pattern with their names, so it was hard to predict IMO.
Gosh, you're surprised a tacky celebrity used the name Jett? Really? It's hardly James or Maximilian.
I get why it bugs you though. I would have been upset too. But then I'd never chose any names that KP would go for.
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