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Soooo, should I try and knit some socks? i feel intimidated...

(122 Posts)
jobnockey Sun 18-Nov-12 22:11:01

... but i feel i should try. How hard is it? I have only just got my head around using a circular needle and have always been a bit scared of usings DPNs...

Shall i give it a go or will it drive me round the bend? (I am a novice/intermediate knitter... trying to be more adventurous than hats and jumpers...)
Tips and encouragement/discouragment welcomed!

TiredofZombies Sun 18-Nov-12 23:03:26

Do it do it do it! DPNs are easy, really you're still only knitting on two needles - the rest are just holding stitches. The first round or two are a bit fiddly because there's not much to hold on to, it sort of flops around a bit, but once you've done a couple of rounds it's much easier. There is a technique for using circular needles too, I think it's called Magic Loop, but I've never done it, I just use the dpns. Sock knitting is ace - you can get a pair out of one ball, you can finish them reasonably quickly once you've got the hang of it, and it's a nice small project to stick in your bag. Ideal bus knitting. (Just don't drop a dpn on the bus.)

Go for it! For your first pair stick to one colour and a plain design and you will be fine. I don't knit socks often but it is strangely satisfying.

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sun 18-Nov-12 23:10:55

Yes, do it - I knitted my first one a couple of weeks ago.

The DPNs - fiddly to start with, but you are only ever using two, just ignore the others.

I used a pattern from Ann Budd's beginners book and it worked. It was just a diddy one to practice but I'm going to try some full size ones very soon.

Melfish Sun 18-Nov-12 23:21:58

Don't be scared of the DPNs, as others have said just concentrate on the 2 you are using and it is like knitting with 2 needles. Ignore the ones you are not using at that point in the row. I found circular needles far more confusing TBH. Regia do some lovely sock wool which comes out in stripes as you knit. I have knitted several pairs and I found the free pattern that Regia distribute to be the best. I got my copies from the knitting show at Ally Pally and a couple of local wool shops. I did take out a book from the library here which has a good selection. I knitted one called stepping stones which was relatively easy.

gussiegrips Sun 18-Nov-12 23:27:05

Yep.

Knitted socks are the besht.

and, they are easier than you think. Way easier.

Enjoy

nickelrocketgoBooooooom Sun 18-Nov-12 23:30:20

I've got a book you can have. it's called socks from the toe up. so far i have used 3 YouTube videos to decipher it and discovered i need another double ended needle with the long wire in the middle.

Wolfiefan Sun 18-Nov-12 23:32:06

Oh yes dpn easy.
Videos on YouTube help.
I like Ann Budd book but have a very basic pattern I use. I love knitted socks. Hate sewing up projects so socks are ideal.
Can we have a sock knitting corner?!
Try patterned wool like Regia etc. I use 4ply sock wool.

Wolfiefan Sun 18-Nov-12 23:35:01

Oh and Opal wool.

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sun 18-Nov-12 23:39:55

Nickel - you just need a long circular needle. like this in 100cm/120cm length.

I would love that toe up book grin if it's the Wendy.D Johnson one

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sun 18-Nov-12 23:41:33

I used the Ann Budd book I got from you Nickel smile how spooky. I actually had a go, it was not as hard as it looked.

TwoJackRussellsandababy Mon 19-Nov-12 06:18:21

Definitely have a go, its addictive for some reason, although second sock syndrome can be very frustrating, or that might just be me?

TiredofZombies Mon 19-Nov-12 11:12:31

Not just you, TwoJack. It's the rib that gets me. Once I've done that, it's ok, but if I don't cast it on IMMEDIATELY after finishing the first one, it might just never get done.

My best friend and I have a saying: Socks don't count. So if you have seven or eight one or two projects to finish, and really shouldn't start something new, you can cast a sock on, because they're so small, they don't really count. Also, you can get a pair out of a 100g ball, so if your stash is huge and you're trying to be restrained and not buy any more, sock yarn doesn't count. You can buy it guilt free. One ball? That's like, nothing. Try it, it's a great way to justify it!

bamboobutton Mon 19-Nov-12 11:20:07

yes yes yes!

I'd recommend toe-up, no fiddly picking up stitches when you turn the heel/gusset.

I like this one

With a figure 8 cast on youtube vid

nickelrocketgoBooooooom Mon 19-Nov-12 13:37:25

Magi - that's what i thought, but the way they describe it, you have to knit front and back of sock at the same time, so need two.
i discovered that from the youtube video as my sock didn't look like the one in the book (it was okay, but it was a needle at the top and a needle at the bottom instead of one at the back and one at the front)

i think that's where i went wrong.
i'm crap at reading patterns anyway.

nickelrocketgoBooooooom Mon 19-Nov-12 13:37:47

maybe i need to get that Ann Budd book for myself grin

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Mon 19-Nov-12 21:18:51

You can knit socks on one long circular or on two.

Either way, or with DPNs, you are knitting front and back at the same time because you are knitting a tube. It's just a tube with a bend in it really grin

Listen to me, the expert. I've only knitted one

FlamingoBingo Mon 19-Nov-12 23:24:45

I LOVE knitting socks smile. They're small, relatively quick, and they don't use much wool so you can use really nice stuff smile

Picking up the heel flap stitches is easy peasy so long as you remember to slip a stitch at the beginning of every heel flap row...or you can do short-row heels.

The best advice I can give is to not think too hard about it, and just follow the pattern to the letter, and then look at your beautifully turned heel and marvel in amazement grin

I sat knitting socks at a group thing the other day that my kids go to. I used dpns and was knitting top-down. She immediately told the other woman with me, and myself, that she decided to not start the 'easy' way and go straight on and learn the 'harder' toe-up, circular needles, magic loop way and she'd never do it any other way now (I tried not to say 'that's open minded of you' wink). Then she asked me what heel method I was using. I said 'heel flap on these particular ones' and she started to tell me how she thinks the heels she uses were much better and she'd never dream of doing heel-flap heels. By this point I was quietly getting on with my knitting and inwardly hmming and hoping she went away very soon [sigh].

Anyway, that aside - go ahead, get a simple pattern, and just do it! Once you've done one pair, and got the hang of it, you may just find yourself addicted wink

Viviennemary Mon 19-Nov-12 23:31:54

I only just mastered knitting with four needles a couple of years ago. I got an opal sock kit and followed that pattern. Also I found actually using five needles a bit easier than four.

When you cast on cast all the stitches onto an ordinary needle and then divide them up. Much easier than trying to cast them onto four different needles. You can even knit the first two or three rows on ordinary needles before dividing up the stitches. Hope that makes sense!

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Mon 19-Nov-12 23:44:23

www.cometosilver.com/socks/SockClass_Start.htm

Silver's sock class - a great tutorial as widely recommended on Ravelry.

Do join Ravelry if you haven't already, it's bloody great. Like MN but with more knitting.

Viviennemary Mon 19-Nov-12 23:48:19

Phoenix Knitting Forums is also very good. Much much smaller than Ravelry. Somebody will always answer if you have a question on something.

nickelrocketgoBooooooom Tue 20-Nov-12 11:26:12

I knew i was doing it wrong when it didn't look like a tube, or even a fold.
it really did look like I was knitting top and bottom.

fossil97 Tue 20-Nov-12 17:37:58

Do it! Socks rock, you must get some good selfpatterning yarn.

DPNS - there is nothing to master really. You knit with 2 of them at a time just like with single pointed needles. I used to think you had to magically hold them all at once. I do cast on a single needle and divide the stitches into 3 or 4 after the 1st row. I have done the 2 circular needles method but I don't think there's any advantage.

Toe up is probably good but top down is maybe easier to understand for your very first pair, because you start with straight knitting, just cast on REALLY loose.

Supplies here <pusher>

I started with a Sirdar pattern that was very clearly written with UK terminology, that might help? The current one appears to be 8489 assuming that is knitted in the round.

jobnockey Wed 21-Nov-12 20:24:32

Okay I'm convinced!!! I will probably be back with questions once I've got started!!!

<goes off to look at lovely, lovely wool>

Hooray! Looks like a sock knitting community has taken over MN!

sunnysunnyshine Wed 21-Nov-12 21:33:23

Oooh just found this thread! Can I join in? I started knitting a sock a couple of days ago.

Was really scared of dpns but its going ok(ish) so far smile

jobnockey Wed 21-Nov-12 22:02:48

sunnysunny that's good to hear... I have just ordered some opal sock yarn plus a set of DPNs, hope to be starting soon!

FlamingoBingo Thu 22-Nov-12 08:06:43

Yay! A sock club on MN! My dream come true! [Grin]

I have just bought the wool for my third pair of socks from one pattern (not my third pair in total). Will put photos of completed socks on my profile at some point if we're clubbing here now!

MrsZoidberg Thu 22-Nov-12 10:08:50

Oooooh Sock People grin I'm really fussy about socks, I'd never thought of knitting my own.

DPNs scare me too, I've seen round knitting looms like This - can you knit socks on the little one?

Do you need special wool / cotton?

Daisybell1 Thu 22-Nov-12 10:52:34

Ooh a sock club! I have a book but it's failed to inspire me so I need a kick up the backside!

evenkeel Thu 22-Nov-12 11:13:50

Joining in here to say that they really are easy once you've got over The Fear. I used to use dpns but was encouraged by the man at Loop (amazing yarn shop in Islington) to try the Magic Loop method (ie one long needle) and it's brilliant.

Socks make an excellent, soothing project for winter evenings, are quick to do as long as you crack on and avoid Second Sock Syndrome grin - and if you do get stumped, there are loads of videos online to help. Agree with the post up thread about the free Regia pattern; it's the only one I ever use! You can pick them up in John Lewis afaik.

Good luck!

jobnockey Thu 22-Nov-12 11:20:32

I love the fact the this is the first thread i have ever started on MN which has stretched to beyond 3 or 4 posts and its about knitting socks!

evenkeel Thu 22-Nov-12 11:31:05

Oh and PS, I've recommended this site before on MN but it's worth another mention - verypink.com

It's American but she knits in the 'English' style and the videos are fantastically clear and helpful. There's one specifically for beginner sock-knitting.

FlamingoBingo Thu 22-Nov-12 12:29:31

I am still on the cuff of my MIL's socks. It is a p1k1tbl rib and it takes SOOOOOO long! I will never do this sort of rib again! One more row to go and then I'm on the pattern - woohoo!

It is this pattern and I'm on the second sock so this really is the last row of this annoying rib!

TunipTheHollowVegemalLantern Thu 22-Nov-12 12:33:48

I did a pair in the summer, really enjoyed it, except I never got round to learning Kitchener stitch to close the toe so they're not quite finished.

I am by no means an experienced knitter and the heel took quite a bit of concentration but it was really fun. They're also a bit thick because I used handspun wool that was a bit too bulky so I'm waiting for it to snow so I can wear them inside my wellies.

Daisybell1 Thu 22-Nov-12 17:52:44

Can anyone recommend some good yarn for socks? Maybe something DK and self patterning to make bed socks.... I'm addicted to sirdar crofter and similar...

FlamingoBingo Thu 22-Nov-12 20:47:23

I've got some sirdar crofter to make socks with for my dad. I looked it up on ravelry and there are socks made with it. If it's just for bedsocks, the only criteria is that it's warm and soft, and that you have the right pattern and needles for that weight of yarn.

I made an amazing pair of socks for my DH out of Jarol 100% wool aran - undyed. It's gorgeous! So soft and warm. The pattern's in a book: Knit the Perfect Pair. I'll see if I can upload a pic to my profile of them.

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Thu 22-Nov-12 20:52:18

Oh I have that book coming flamingo - from theworks.co.uk at about 3.99 IIRC, it should come this week.

I have got a few balls of Regia sock yarn - it's self striping/patterning and 75%wool, 25%nylon, hardwearing but soft. Good for socks. Knits as usual 4ply. like this

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Thu 22-Nov-12 20:53:25

Shall we find a free pattern online and do an actual Mumsnet Socks KAL (knit along) do you think? Any takers?

Daisybell1 Thu 22-Nov-12 21:57:28

Ooh, that could be a plan. If only to make us all finish the second one!

FlamingoBingo Thu 22-Nov-12 23:10:01

I'd love to do a KAL, but can't take part in anything before Christmas as have so much to get finished for presents!

Viviennemary Fri 23-Nov-12 00:00:12

I think Opal sock yarn is really good and you get a free pattern depends on where you buy from. Ebay usually has some or did a year or two ago. That is self patterning and available in lots and lots of colours.

FlamingoBingo Fri 23-Nov-12 06:42:09

daisy wanks DK, though. Do Opal and Regia do a DK weight?

KnottyLocks Fri 23-Nov-12 06:59:27

Oh I looooove knitted socks smile

Never made them though. I'm bookmarking all these ideas for later.

Daisybell1 Fri 23-Nov-12 07:52:40

<snorts tea through nose at Flamingo>

I may love yarn, but maybe not quite that much grin

Never made socks knotty? I am shock. If anyone would like a pattern I think I have some for small 'tester' socks I could share.

TwoJackRussellsandababy Fri 23-Nov-12 08:05:15

I'm up for a KAL, have so many WIP's that another won't hurt!!!

MrsHoarder Fri 23-Nov-12 08:09:57

I'm working up to real socks: half way through a Christmas stocking. So when I start on my gorgeous sock yarn it won't be that difficult? And where can I find a simple sock pattern they can be resized? I have big feet...

FlamingoBingo Fri 23-Nov-12 10:22:45

I don't understand, Daisy <innocent> confused

MIL's sock is knitting up really fast now I've got that ribbed cuff out of the way. Half-way through the calf already smile

Daisybell1 Fri 23-Nov-12 15:25:56

"Daisy wants DK" came up with a k instead of the t in your post Flamingo

<childish sense of humour>

Sorry, I'll be sensible now, I appreciate you steering people back onto DK. Is there anything like crofter which is more sturdy? Some of the posts I've read say that it wears through the heels/toes easily

sunnysunnyshine Fri 23-Nov-12 16:22:11

Haha Daisy grin

MrsHoarder What's your christmas stocking like? I want to knit ds a stocking. Is it difficult? I've been looking for a chunky knit one which will be quicker to knit and hopefully done in time for christmas THIS year...

I didn't even think of getting special 'sock' yarn. Is it just generally stronger then?

And is it possible to use circular needles on a pattern that uses dpns does anybody know? Just cos I've already got a lot of sizes of circular needles and find them a bit easier to use.

Questions questions....

Viviennemary Fri 23-Nov-12 16:30:57

There is a method of using two circular needles which looks dreadfully complicated so I've never tried. It's called the magic loop method. Don't know if it's been metioned on here. But a lot of people seem to swear by it.

I got some very small double pointed needles and found them much easier to knit with.

Viviennemary Fri 23-Nov-12 16:32:35

Sorry I think you only use one circular but make it into a loop.

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Fri 23-Nov-12 17:23:17

Regia makes a 6ply this which is basically DK weight. I will have a mooch for patterns later, maybe a simple ribbed one as we are (mostly) beginners?

MrsHoarder Fri 23-Nov-12 17:43:51

sunny The Christmas stocking is this one. I'm a slow knitter and expect to finish it within the fortnight. Well except maybe for the dupliate stitch, that might be done on Christmas Eve.

It will have DS's name around the top and (I think) a snowman on the side. Quite excited about it really.

jobnockey Fri 23-Nov-12 21:44:04

Ha ha! Daisy, I think sock wanking should be another thread altogether...

Well my lovely opal yarn has arrived and i paid £3 extra for a set of DPNs, stitch markers and a basic pattern so i am ready to go. I am wondering whether to start tonight, probably too late now and I have had a a few wine so might be better to wait...

Who's in for the great sock knit along?

FlamingoBingo Sat 24-Nov-12 06:55:50

Haha Daisy grin I was looking up DK on urban dictionary, certain there must be some obscure sexual reference to the initials I had never heard of grin

What will the KAL involve? All knitting certain parts at certain times? I can cast on my next sock and join in? Do you all want to finish a pair by Christmas? If so, am happy to be chief whip-cracker if no one else wants to? And then maybe in the New Year we can arrange some themes or something and do it more co-ordinatedly (fab new word! grin)

MrsHoarder Sat 24-Nov-12 08:40:29

Does anyone have a revelry link to a free basic sock pattern please? Then I'll join the kal. Otherwise considering ordering a sock book from the library, but it could take weeks to arrive.

MrsHoarder Sat 24-Nov-12 08:41:10

Does anyone have a revelry link to a free basic sock pattern please? Then I'll join the kal. Otherwise considering ordering a sock book from the library, but it could take weeks to arrive.

trumpton Sat 24-Nov-12 08:51:30

Picture of my first pair of socks on my profile . They were from the free sock pattern I got with the opal sock yarn .

sunnysunnyshine Sat 24-Nov-12 12:16:39

Wow Mrshoarder those stockings look really lovely but I wouldn't know where to start with knitting actual pictures... A snowman will be amazing! Make sure you put a pic up when they're done!
I'm after a chunky knit cable pattern, but a v simple one. The ones on ravelry are a bit complex...

Thanks viv I might try using a circular needle, I've done the magic loop on the sleeves of jumpers. It's just if I can adapt the dpn pattern - all seems v confusing at the mo!

Yay I'm up for a KAL! Also about to start a cardigan for dh and hopefully a stocking for ds, but would like to knit my dad some socks too.

On way to hobbycraft to get some wool now smile

sunnysunnyshine Sat 24-Nov-12 12:17:22

Trumpton they're brill!!

MrsHoarder Sat 24-Nov-12 12:24:09

Its not as scary as it looks, and the basic pattern is pretty simple. I've just worked out how to do stripes and duplicate stitch for this, its nearly all straightforward knit except for the heel (which was easier than I expected).

If you don't feel up to names and stripes it can be used for a solid-colour stocking...

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sat 24-Nov-12 12:31:54
MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sat 24-Nov-12 12:36:23

They are a basic ribbed sock in 4ply.

MagiMingeWassailsAgain Sat 24-Nov-12 12:38:17

wisehilda.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/by-popular-demand-basic-ribbed-sock.html

Same pattern from blog in case anyone is not a member of Ravelry. Though you really must join, it's great

MrsHoarder Sat 24-Nov-12 14:15:31

Fab thank you. I've queued them.

BornToFolk Sat 24-Nov-12 14:51:49

I love knitting socks. It's what I knit most, I think. I am in fact currently wearing a very nice pair that I made myself recently. Very warm and snuggly in this horrible weather!

This Knitty article is a very good introduction to sock knitting.

I made my dad some socks from Regia 6-ply recently. It goes much quicker than 4 ply and makes a nice thick sock.

Opal and Regia are great sock yarns. Both are 75% wool, 25% nylon. The wool makes the yarn sock and warm and the nylon adds strength. I do frequently use 100% wool yarn too because you can get some lovely hand-dyed 100% wool. The downside is that you do need to handwash (Regia and Opal go in the washing machine fine) but it's worth it for the lovely colours!

littleladyindoors Sat 24-Nov-12 15:05:23

you are all a lot of enablers!!! I am going to have to try some socks now for my mum for christmas. Will you all throw me out if I knit some flat whilst you-experts do it on dpns? I havent even picked up stitches before- I get my mum to do it- I am currently knitting a jumper for my XLDH which I swore Id never do- never mind!

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Sat 24-Nov-12 15:08:35

Littlelady - if you get stuck, look on YouTube, or Knittinghelp.com, or Ravelry or post on here.

You can't knit proper socks flat, it is against the law and the knitting police will come for you grin

G'wan, I haven't made a whole pair yet either.

littleladyindoors Sat 24-Nov-12 15:46:17

Moaning- I really dont need a knitting criminal record, ive only just got my reputation back grin

I will have a look at home, Ive got some DPNs I think in my drawer- i know ive got 3.25mm and 5mm but im sure there are some 2.75mm in there somewhere. I use them for icord.
Ive just had a look at the silvers sock class tutorial mentioned up thread so Ill give that a go I think. cue the swearing when I start!!! I have some in my rav library but Im just a scaredy cat

I would be looking at more patterns but people keep coming into my shop to buy things- dont they know Im trying to knit LOL grin

littleladyindoors Sat 24-Nov-12 20:30:28

Right, I've taken the plunge and I am knitting on more needles than I think is humanely possible! And I'm doing it!!! I am knitting on DPNS in the round!! Thankyou all for shoving me at this-this may all change when I start to turn a heel!!!

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Sat 24-Nov-12 20:43:06

grin grin Just ignore the needles except for the two you are using

It'll be fine

I will join in the sock fest after Christmas. I have too many projects on hand atm including some antlers for another MIners dog and Woolly Hug stuff.

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Sun 25-Nov-12 12:15:00

I will start after I have finished my current WIPS, I have a test knit cardigan and a small baby blanket and a very quick scarf all on the go.

TBH I did try to cast one on last night using some dark grey cygnet 4 ply but it seems a lot thinner than the Regia sock yarn so will need to find my 2.25mm needles I think, it's too loose on the 2.75s

Daisybell1 Mon 26-Nov-12 16:37:04

I bought wool for socks blush

jobnockey Mon 26-Nov-12 19:45:28

ooh just logged in after the weekend away. I am taking the plunge right now and will report back one I have cast on...

BornToFolk Mon 26-Nov-12 20:04:05

Don't be blush Daisy! Sock yarn doesn't count. It's similar to how Fun Size chocolate bars contain no calories...wink

What did you buy?

Go jobnocky!

Daisybell1 Mon 26-Nov-12 20:25:43

It counts, its DK sad

It's King Cole Moods - I got the red, brown, black and blue to make a pair each for my family <over-ambitious emoticon>

FlamingoBingo Mon 26-Nov-12 21:18:36

Finished my Dad's Christmas present socks! Just got to finish MIL's now, and then I'm done for Christmas sock-making...as soon as I've got everything else done, I'll be back on socks for definite! I love them!

TwoJackRussellsandababy Tue 27-Nov-12 14:02:18

I'm going to slightly cheat in that i want to finish up some socks I've been pottering away at since the summer, but they are socks so that should count yeah? grin

KnottyLocks Tue 27-Nov-12 16:11:36

You lot are pesky! Got bloody socks on the brain now grin

of course they count! We all have lonely socks waiting for a friend grin

FlappingToad Tue 27-Nov-12 18:13:44

How do you know which size of circular needle to use, please?

Inspired by this thread, I would love to have a go at knitting huge fat socks out of chunky wool.

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Tue 27-Nov-12 18:44:23

The needle size will depend on which wool you use, and what gauge you get, Flapping Thicker wool will need bigger needles but you might want to use a slightly smaller needle than you would use to make a jumper out of the same wool, IYKWIM

eg for standard sock yarn/4ply you would usually knit a cardi on 3.25mm but probably use 2.75 for the ribbing/edges. Socks you would generally knit on 2.75mm in this wool but you might need different size if you knit very loose or extra tightly.

jobnockey Tue 27-Nov-12 22:28:08

Okay, well im twelve rows in to my ribbing and so far so good. Dpns are easier than a circular I reckon! Only problem is how bloody fiddly it is on these tiny needles. Last few things ive knitted have been really chunky so it feels very different. However, my socks have begun... Huzzah!

FlappingToad Tue 27-Nov-12 22:49:44

Thankyou MoaningMinge. I will have a bash on different sized needles. If it all gets out of hand then they will do for Christmas stockings. grin

MintCakeMavis Tue 27-Nov-12 23:02:10

Right, you've convinced me that my life is missing knitted socks.

I have 2 hour and a half train journeys on Thursday and no children, husband or friends with me so I've printed the ribbed sock pattern linked above and dug out 100g of 4ply from my stash <polishes halo> and I will attempt socks.

I may have to curb the amount of swearing that usually accompanies new knitting techniques as I'll be in public but I can make up for that on something else.

jobnockey Thu 29-Nov-12 20:56:49

Sock news: I am about a third of the way down the main body of my first sock. Very impressed with myself so far. have read ahead in the pattern however and feel a bit scared about the next stage, hopefully a sock expert will be around here to talk me through it...

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Thu 29-Nov-12 21:40:41

I did manage to turn the heel on my one sock I have knitted before.

All I would say is, don't think about it too much, just follow the instructions, it will be fine. I am now doing two test knits on Rav so a bit tied up for now blush They are beginners/easy patterns though.

MintCakeMavis Thu 29-Nov-12 22:13:42

Good sock news here too. I've got 2 inches into my first ever sock and learnt the magic loop method with no swearing or anything. It was v satisfying. But I must finish DDs jumper before any more sock knitting otherwise it will be too small.

I think next year everyone will have socks for their Christmas presents.

Daisybell1 Thu 29-Nov-12 22:39:51

Am onto the foot of first sock. Heel successfully turned but ribbing has ended up lop-sided so have a big lump of knit on one side, and a lump of purl on the other side. Will have to knit 2nd one the same way so they match...

sunnysunnyshine Fri 30-Nov-12 18:55:18

Sounds like everyone's doing well with their socks! smile

I'm about to start the heel. Been looking at YouTube tutorials for wrap and turn but I'm still a bit confused. Guess I should just go for it!

MrsHoarder Fri 30-Nov-12 19:03:17

Turn is easy. You just stop and go in the other direction. Like you are at the end of the row.

I'm nearly at the toe on my stocking. With minimal frogging smile

FlamingoBingo Sat 01-Dec-12 14:43:39

Have now completed MIL's socks too! smile I am a happy sock-knitter...except that I have no more socks planned for Christmas so none on my needles right now sad. Looking forward to having done all my Christmas knitting so I can cast on another pair of socks - one for me this time I think!

Wolfiefan Sat 01-Dec-12 14:53:27

Oooooh socks on MN. Reigniting my passion after a pair that went pear shaped for my sis and suffering second sock syndrome for my pair!

sunnysunnyshine Sat 01-Dec-12 17:13:25

Stupid question alert!...

I'm shaping the heel (w&t) and pattern says to work 1 stitch fewer every 2 rows.
If this means every other row then surely the decrease will just be on 1 side only?
Or can someone explain when exactly I should be decreasing my stitch? Is it the end of every other row? It can't be can it?

Help pleaseeeeeeeee!

Viviennemary Sat 01-Dec-12 17:44:08

That seems like a very unclear instruction. What pattern are you using. If nobody on here can help, I recommend Phoenix Knitting Forums. Somebody will always answer a question and they have a whole section on sock knitting.

FlamingoBingo Sat 01-Dec-12 22:00:08

That does sound very unclear. What does 'w&t' mean? What sort of heel are you doing? Do you have a link to the pattern?

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Sat 01-Dec-12 23:09:00

w&t is usually wrap and turn.

So 1 st less each row means, for example,
sl1, p11
Sl1, k11
Sl1 p10
Sl 1 k10 there should be a k2tog or a p2tog at the ends of some of those I think, the 2 together is one of the stitches you are working plus another from across the gap, IYKWIM

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 07:53:17

That's a short row heel then, isn't it? Same as yarn over? Odd that it says at the end of every 2nd row. Is it a free pattern? Can you copy and paste the actual instructions? Or link to the pattern?

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 07:54:23

I find it good to look up a pattern on ravelry, then look at the notes of those who've made project pages of it. You often get all the errata and explanations of odd instructions explained through doing that.

sunnysunnyshine Sun 02-Dec-12 15:55:30

Thanks for the replies!

Yes it's short row shaping...

It's a pattern from a book called 'Socks' by Chrissie Day I picked up in Hobbycraft.

It says:
Row1: k19, wrap 1, turn (20 sts)
Row2: p19, wrap 1, turn
Repeat rows 1 & 2, working 1 fewer every 2 rows until 11 sts rem on needle.

This probably makes perfect sense but I just can't get it.

I understood that by working 1 fewer, I wrap & turn 1 stitch earlier. So this has to be at the end of the row. In which case if this is every 2 rows, then it's every other row but then it would be on the same side...?

I'll have a look at ravelry and the other forum mentioned to see if other patterns make more sense and shed some light on this. I'm sure it's something really obvious that I'm missing...

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 17:10:14

It may still be an error. Definitely check Ravelry for the pattern notes. what's the name of the pattern?

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 17:17:15

If it's the socks http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/cable-clog/people?status=&group=&photoless=0&photoless=1&search= it seems you're not the only one worrying about the one-sided heels!

You could either look up a short-row heel tutorial on youtube, or designer http://www.ravelry.com/people/knittingnotetimes seems to post on Ravelry fairly often - you could message her via there and ask her.

bluebayou Sun 02-Dec-12 17:30:18

Coo , admire you , you go girl . I am afraid I just go down shops and buy a pair . Cheaper , with the price of wool .grin

sunnysunnyshine Sun 02-Dec-12 17:32:31

It's not a pattern from ravelry, but from a book. I think I'm just going to give up on this one and start again with a different pattern altogether.

Can anybody recommend a V simple pattern that uses 4mm dpns? I'll start looking on ravelry now... Like you say, at least I can read any notes and contact the author if need be.

MrsHoarder Sun 02-Dec-12 18:22:37

Sunny I think you've misunderstood ravelry: this is (I think) all the patterns in Socks by Crissie Day. So you can read other people's comments on the patterns.

Its not just the free online patterns!

And I've pretty much finished my stocking. Just got to finish off weaving in ends, duplicate stitch DS's name on and sew the heel flaps together

sunnysunnyshine Sun 02-Dec-12 18:42:47

Ohhhhh - great, thanks mrs! I'll have a look. I've only looked at the online free patterns before...

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 20:14:07

Yes, it's pretty much every pattern on the planet on there! grin Explore it, Sunny.

Blue - do you not do anything for the process ever? Or just for the product?

MrsHoarder - well done! What was the pattern? I've never made a sock I have to sew together - usually give up on patterns that have lots of finishing to do at the end grin

I tried with DPN and hated it, found it fiddly and ugh. I bought a sock loom to try and am much happier now.

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 20:54:24

I hated the dpns at first too, BigBird. Stuck with it, though, and lvoe it now. I find the same with many patterns, but as soon as I'm used to them, they go much faster and I start really enjoying most of them smile

MrsHoarder Sun 02-Dec-12 21:11:58

I think I linked to my stocking pattern upthread, but here it is again: Ravelry stocking. There's not really much sewing: most of the weaving in is because I went a bit ott with stripes, and the duplicate stitch is only because I really want it to have his name one (pfb). Of course the only response I will get this year is he will try to eat it...

I love making my own clothes generally because I'm too long for everything the shops sell, so hoping by knitting my own socks I can have the pride in making something and then socks that fit.

FlamingoBingo Sun 02-Dec-12 21:16:05

Oh lovely! I forgot you'd linked already smile

Flamingo, it is the stopping and starting, tugging on the gap bit. I've done enough crafts to know what I like and what isn't going to be me fairly quickly.

Also I have a kid who will not leave things alone and dogs who tend to swipe things off surfaces. The loom is less likely to suffer from dropped stitches due to interference.

Viviennemary Sun 02-Dec-12 21:40:13

For my first pair of socks I used the Opal sock pattern. It was really straightforward I thought. And sometimes I do find patterns a bit confusing so I'm not great with all of them. I would recommend this one though.

jobnockey Tue 04-Dec-12 12:54:32

WAAAAAH! had just got to heel turning point last.night. just got it out to start heel whilst ds watches dvd for a bit. STUPID TWAT that I am I left ds in room sat next to knitting whilst I got us a drink. I think you can guess what happened next....

MoaningMingeWhimpersAgain Tue 04-Dec-12 13:42:11

shock Oh No.

I have had too many bits of knitting ruined by the children. 4 inches of knitted up 4ply for a cardigan just taken off the needles, because they were 'helping me with the string'

FlamingoBingo Tue 04-Dec-12 16:02:09

Oh Jobnockey! sad is it salvagable, or do you have to start over? How frustrating!

I'm taking part in a KAL after Christmas on the UK Sock Knitters group on Ravelry. It may interest some of you. It's based on the thirteen full moons in the year, and is designed so there's a lot of creative flexibility for the knitters.

TwoJackRussellsandababy Fri 07-Dec-12 06:02:53

Jobnockey did you manage to mend your sock? I have one in my huge mending pile which the dog chewed...I was going to wear them for only the second time when I found out his antics, at least its a plain vanilla sock so easily mended and I have leftover wool.

Daisybell1 Fri 07-Dec-12 08:37:22

Oh no, sock trauma for Job. I've developed lightning reactions for when dd is advancing towards my many work in progress

jobnockey Fri 14-Dec-12 14:49:43

No I couldn't salvage it... needles to bloody small and fiddly to pick up the tiny stitches!!! I finished a hat which was for a chritmas prersent and just last night cast on my sock again. Doubtful i'll be able to knit a pair before christmas but if DP is lucky I'll be able to wrap up one sock with an IOU for the other one!

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