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Please help. Were my reasons for terminating good enough?

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guiltyandsad · 02/05/2012 22:39

When I read about people who are considering terminating pregnancies, the advice given is often 'make sure your reasons are the right ones' etc. I had a termination last year and I have since got really hung up with whether my reasons were good ones, or whether I made a big mistake. Am feeling very depressed, low, and guilty about it.

This is the story - sorry it's long: dp and I have two beautiful dcs, and the youngest was 12 months when I found out I was 8 weeks pg by accident (stupid, of course, really stupid at the age of 39 not to know better, but the first 'accident' I have ever had). I had never decided I only wanted 2 - in theory I kind of had an open mind about having 3 - but when I found out I was pg I felt very strongly that I couldn't go through with it. I suffered really horrendous AND and PND with my first child, so bad that I felt utterly suicidal and was hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital. My dp and I struggled a LOT in the early years with looking after the two very active, challenging (though lovely) dc, with our relationship, with work, moving house etc - they were four pretty hellish years in lots of ways, to be honest, with me on and off depressed, in therapy, lots of arguments, etc. At the time when I found out I was pg with number 3, things were just starting to look up. I had been at home for a year on maternity leave and was looking forward to going back to work part-time. The idea of having another baby just felt like sinking back into this morass of crying, no sleep, nappies, isolation, breastfeeding, another c-section, two babies under 2 at home, and terrible anxiety. And I didn't think it was fair on my youngest dc to have so little time as the 'baby', like I wouldn't have enough time or energy to give her the attention she needed when the new baby came along.

What made it all worse - and this is the bit I feel particularly bad about - was that I had taken medication before I found out I was pg (i.e. in the early weeks of the pregnancy) that you are not meant to take during pregnancy. I researched it and asked my gp etc but all the answer I got was basically that nobody knew whether it would have affected the baby, that it had been proved to be toxic to fetuses in animal studies but that they couldn't say whether it was similarly toxic for humans.

The thing is, I know that for many people this would not have been a big deal. I have a friend who takes this kind of stuff very pragmatically and wouldn't have lost any sleep over it. But for me it was massive - I knew that I would be eaten up with anxiety and guilt for the rest of the pregnancy, and that even after the baby was born, I would be looking out for signs that it was damaged in some way. This is my anxiety condition talking, I know.

I couldn't face going ahead. I was frightened that I would end up depressed again and that my dc would suffer so much from that - the first 4 years were bad enough. And on top of that, I just didn't want it. I just dreaded it. My dp didn't want to have the baby either. So I terminated. And now I feel so dreadful, because i think maybe my reasons weren't good ones after all. It's not that I wish I had the baby now - to be honest, I don't - but I feel desperately guilty. I try to work out all the time whether I did the 'right' thing, but I just can't understand it.

Thanks if you've bothered to read all this and sorry it's long.

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MeDented · 02/05/2012 22:44

I think you are being very hard on yourself. Sounds like you certainly didn't take the decision lightly in the first place, have some very sound, logical reasons and doesn't sound like you 'regret' the decision now. Please try and learn to be at peace with the decision you made or you will drive yourself mad.

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whattodoo · 02/05/2012 22:46

It sounds to me as though you thought long and hard, with your DP,before coming to the decision that was right for your family.
I honestly don't think there is anything you should feel guilty about, but wonder if it would help you to talk about it with someone like a counsellor or gp?

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AmethystMoon · 02/05/2012 22:47

From what you have said you made the right decision for you and your family and that is what is important. There is no universal right or wrong because we and our circumstances are all different. I can understand why you decided to terminate.

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ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 02/05/2012 22:48

Sweetheart - I just want to hug you x You haven't done anything wrong, nothing at all. You made a very difficult decision, that was right for your whole family at the time. I have a feeling that no matter how much you might be questioning what you did now, that you would be in a much worse place if you had kept the baby. I really do. I don't say that lightly at all as I am pro-choice in principle, but far more anti-termination in reality.

I think your anxiety and everything else you are struggling with is making you focus on this one thing and you need to find a way to put it behind you. You made the best decision you could at the time - that is all you can ever do (and fwiw - I think it was the right decision).

I think that you should go and see your GP - get your meds checked out and find that place, the one where you were happy with life, the place you were at before you accidentally got pregnant.

Does that make sense?

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5madthings · 02/05/2012 22:49

what medented said, everything you have said shows you thought the decision through very seriously and you were right to think about your own mh and the impact that would have on your dh and your existing children.

i am so sorry you are beating youself up about this :( have you spoken to your dh or thought about getting some counselling?

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parachutesarefab · 02/05/2012 22:53

You thought it through, discussed it with your DP, and made a considered decision based on what believed would be best not just for the two of you, but for your 2 young children. What more can we do as parents?

You will never know if you made the 'right' decision, as you can't know what would have happened if you'd made a different one, but you made a very understandable decision and need to find a way forward, at peace with the route you chose. It would be tragic if, having decided not to risk the horrendous PND that you experienced previously, this decision was the trigger for more depression. Hopefully you'll get support here, but please do get professional support too.

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guiltyandsad · 02/05/2012 22:54

Gosh, thank you, I had no idea I would get so many (very kind) replies so quickly. What bothers me most is the medication thing. When I told my friend about it, she was very surprised and said - in the politest way possible - that that was a pretty crazy reason to terminate a pregnancy. It certainly wasn't my only reason - not at all - but it was a factor. I wasn't convinced the baby would have a problem - I just knew it was a possibility and couldn't face the thought of that anxiety and guilt and risk. Is that bad?

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alarkaspree · 02/05/2012 22:55

Can I ask what you think would be good reasons to terminate a pregnancy? Maybe it would help to make you feel less guilty if you examined this, because personally I can hardly think of a better one than the desperate feeling you describe that you just couldn't cope with another baby. Obviously you haven't changed your mind really, you don't wish you'd done differently, so I think you need to accept that this was the right decision for you and your family.

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ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 02/05/2012 23:11

No, it's not bad. Just because your friend feels differently doesn't make you wrong.

The things is, you made this very very difficult decision (partly) so that you wouldn't feel guilty and wouldn't be anxious... and now you are guilty and anxious :(

Please don't let this send you in a spiral of depression... please see your GP x

You didn't do anything wrong, you made the best possible decision you could have at the time, for your family

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AmethystMoon · 03/05/2012 05:25

It is very easy to pass judgment and make comments as your friend did when they are not in your shoes. Your friend could never fully understand your situation; because she is not you. You thought long and hard...your friend did not, it sounds like they made their comment on the spot. So you can't even begin to compare what they said to your decision. You were very brave and took a decision based on the needs of your family. Please see your GP, to get some support but please try to be nice to yourself, you are a strong brave lady xx

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3duracellbunnies · 03/05/2012 06:30

You will never know if the baby was affected, but you can only guess the impact if it had been affected negatively by the medicine. FWIW dh and I have both worked with children with disabilities, and rightly or wrongly we felt that we wanted all the diagnostic tests because we felt that we didn't want to travel the paths that many parents and the siblings of severely disabled children travel. I have enormous respect for parents who do, but we felt we didn't want that for us or our family (while of course recognising that no child would ever be perfect, and they don't come with guarantees). We didn't find ourselves in that position anyway.

If the child had been severely affected it wouldn't have been your friend caring for the baby, it would have been you and your children, for the rest of all of your lives or the child's life. You will never know the alternative outcome, but with the best information available you took what you felt was the best route for you and your family.

Do see your GP and ask for support through this. It may be particularly hard as now you see babies around you and wonder 'what if', but for you and your children you need to take steps to make sure that this doesn't dominate their childhood instead. Hope that helps.

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StrawberryMojito · 03/05/2012 06:53

The medication may have been an unusual reason to terminate the pregnancy of a woman who would otherwise want that child and be able to go through the pregnancy without suffering the anxiety that you do but you are not that woman. You suffer with anxiety, have enough on your plate already and don't want to risk plunging yourself into the despair you once felt. You have absolutely nothing to feel guilty about, you made the right decision for yourself and your family.

Protecting the mother from a life threatening condition is a completely 'valid' reason for terminating a pregnancy (although so is simply feeling like you cannot go through with it) and that is what you did. Your pnd made you suicidal, so of course you don't want to risk that again, even if you didn't get it with your second dc. Give yourself a break, you've done nothing wrong.

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mummytoh1 · 03/05/2012 13:08

Oh big hugs to you. I absolutely think your reasons were valid for you and your family (ALL of them, you had several). Being quite an anxious person myself, I can easily imagine how you are revisiting this over and over, and doubting your decisions, and it sounds to me like you need some closure. Are you able to have a few counselling sessions to talk it out?

I have two DS, both very much wanted and conceived through fertility treatment, and yet last cycle I thought I was pregnant naturally and I felt so low at the possibility (I wasn't). I had PND after DS1, a terrible pregnancy with DS2, and I'm now back at work and enjoying life. My understanding is what you and I feel in these types of circumstances is not unusual.

Take care. x

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guiltyandsad · 05/05/2012 22:28

Just wanted to say thank you again for the really supportive replies. It does make a difference to get sympathy and understanding rather than the blame which I assume in my head everyone would rain down on me if they knew.

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loveisagirlnameddaisy · 08/05/2012 14:01

You poor thing. What a terrible quandry to find yourself in.

I think you've had some excellent advice on this thread and I hope you are able to not only see it as good advice, but also make peace with what you did. Your post sounds very much like you are trying to convince yourself that you've done the right thing and I think that you need some help with the acceptance part of the process.

The reasons you give are as valid as any I've ever seen for having a termination and the fact you're torn up about it is clear. But I don't think the reasons in themselves are as important as your ability to accept that what you did was the right thing for you and your family - everyone's reasons will be different and very personal to their situation. I hope you are able to do that soon.

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porcamiseria · 12/05/2012 21:37

sweetheart, I think you did the right thing, being hospitalised for PND must have been BRUTAL.

Now, please be at peace with your decision and move on

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