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Just Shagging Grads Thread 9 - Roll Up, Roll Up all you graduated Viroids!

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HungryHorace Sat 07-Jun-14 21:41:14

Welcome to the 9th grads thread...celebrating the success of Just Shagging in getting us viroids upduffed. :-)

The thread we have graduated from is here in its 24th outing!

There is also a Just Mumming thread in postnatal once your babies come along, or to keep up with the graduated graduates!

For those not in the know, a viroid is an autocorrected version of 'ladies' from the 1st JS thread, which then stuck.

So, roll call below please, viroids. :-)

HungryHorace Sat 07-Jun-14 21:43:43

Just Mumming here

HungryHorace Sat 07-Jun-14 21:44:34


Link fail!!

HungryHorace Sat 07-Jun-14 21:45:36

In date order...

2nd Child
EDD 07.08.14 (ELCS date to be given 11.06.14)

1st child
EDD 21/10/2014

First child
EDD: 8/11/14

Third child
EDD 30/11/2014

Name: Minion
1st child (after the man child)
EDD: 10 DEC 2014..

1st non furry child.
EDD: 5/1/15

1st child
EDD: 09/01/15

2nd child
EDD 18/1/2015

RPopz Sat 07-Jun-14 21:47:31

Wahey! Thanks Horace grin

JuniDD Sat 07-Jun-14 21:49:22

hurrah! hello shiny new thread. smile

DulcetMoans Sat 07-Jun-14 22:13:17

Yay! Thanks horace!

wilhelmeaner Sat 07-Jun-14 22:25:03

Thanks Horace!

Nessalina Sat 07-Jun-14 23:43:24

A new thread! Hurrah!

1st child (a boy!)
EDD 4/11/14

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 06:17:22

Oooh me likey!

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 07:27:58

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

JuniDD Sun 08-Jun-14 07:46:29

So nub theory would suggest that's a girl? I don't think mine has a nub! I think it's a boy (but I think they're all boys!).

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 08:48:22

Ooh, are we going to play that game?!

I'm going to dig out my 12 week scan. :-)

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 08:52:27

Here we go!

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 09:47:47

Ooh Min I missed yours! I wouldn't be any help anyway I'm a scan novice! Hehe.

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 09:53:01

Min, I was going to suggest you may want to crop yours to remove detail. :-)

Nessalina Sun 08-Jun-14 10:18:29

Lol! Did I just miss Min outing herself? grin

zenry Sun 08-Jun-14 10:18:40

So this is mine. See that thin white line pointing down? Apparantly thats a girl nub! Still convinced its a boy though.

Nessalina Sun 08-Jun-14 10:22:33

Here's my super fuzzy offering - we know it's a boy so there should be no nub then?

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 10:32:22

Aah now I see why you removed it hehe!

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 10:45:07

So, what's mine then, zenry? I'm crap at nub theory!

And yes, you did, Ness! Not that I saw as you can't enlarge photos on your phone, but I could tell the header was still on the scan picture.

zenry Sun 08-Jun-14 11:03:10

Right nub theory is- boy: at an angle of 30 degrees or more to the spine
Girl: parallel to the the spine or pointing down.
My boys never had a nub visible on their scans.

horace not sure I can see a nub but im feeling a girly looking at your scan

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 11:08:07

Not long til we find out! I love the guessing games, but I'm impatient to find out now too. :-)

Sick of being told I'm huge and the jokey asking if I'm sure it's not twins. Sigh.

Then there's the 'will you have a third to try for a boy if it's another girl?' Answer to that is, 'God, no...too old and too knackered for a third!'

Besides, the sex doesn't really matter to me.

Nessalina Sun 08-Jun-14 11:12:54

I'm determined that me & DH won't become one of those couples with 5 sons still going for a daughter, but we would love a girl... Next time TTC we'll be trying all the old wives girl-conception tricks, lol!
We do want a boy too (luckily!), I'd just be sad if we didn't have a girl, so currently imaginary baby number two will be the clincher, lol.

zenry Sun 08-Jun-14 11:18:07

We would love a baby girl but have both decided 3 is enough. Plus I will be 36 when they are all old enough to fend for themselves grin

I do like the idea of three boys but I will have to get some extremely female scents to cut through the wall of link when they are teenagers grin

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 12:43:51

I always thought I wanted a girl but now I'm here I'd happily take either! There are virtually no boys in our families!! But I can definitely see how having a little boy would be fun. All the nice crochet blankets I've pinned on pintrest so far are blue.... could be a sign haha!

In other news, still want to murder Mr Rpopz in cold blood. He has scratched my kitchen table putting all his shit on there despite me asking him NUMEROUS times not to.... Blah. Single parenthood isn't so bad, right???

wilhelmeaner Sun 08-Jun-14 13:31:38

Oh dear, Mr Popz is really in the bad books at the moment.

Ha I also missed Min outing herself, how disappointing! grin. I'm trying not to look at photos as don't want to get adept at figuring them out. I'll be gutted if I can tell from my scan!

I genuinely don't mind this time as I always wanted a girl and we have her already so will be happy with either. Mr Wil wants a boy though.

Feel rotten today.

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 17:03:19

I don't feel very well now either sad Feel a bit fevery. Started taking some antibiotics this morning so not sure if its that....confused

fifi669 Sun 08-Jun-14 17:14:13

Where's my name? wink

35 + 3 here. Home stretch hopefully. Currently panicking for absolutely no reason about stillbirth.... Stupid over active imagination.

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 17:36:37

As soon as I had posted it I thought 'farrrkkkk' so emaile hq to delete the offending article.
Did you notice my name? The problem with it is it's so bloody recognisable.. I'll crop and add another later and you can guess mine too x

DulcetMoans Sun 08-Jun-14 17:57:42

Aw I missed it to min. I doubt many people saw it, don't worry. Only us in here and you can't see pics in the app so very limited audience.

Nearly there fifi, hope you are reigning in the crazy!

Hungry day here. Want all the food!

fifi669 Sun 08-Jun-14 18:09:09

DP is still having his midlife crisis (at 28) so there's enough crazy in this house already!

wilhelmeaner Sun 08-Jun-14 18:20:45

Haha that's pretty young for a midlife crisis Fifi! Am sure all will go fine with the birth, not often that things go wrong at this stage with no prior warning.

Hope you're ok RPopz.

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 18:42:58

Ahhh...fifi will be next then, not me! :-)

Min, if I'd been on the iPad I'd have seen your name, but you can't enlarge pictures on the iPhone so I could tell the details were there, but couldn't see what they were.

You've not outed yourself to me!

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 19:03:49

Try again shall I?
Ok, pink or blue?

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 19:04:15


fifi669 Sun 08-Jun-14 20:49:05


I should be sectioning sometime from 3rd July....

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 21:07:07

I don't know about nubs but I can see its faaaaaace! grin That is an awesome scan pic x

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 21:16:07

I'll be about 4 weeks after you, fifi, as I'm exactly 4 weeks behind you. I get my ELCS date this week. :-)

Minion Sun 08-Jun-14 21:20:06

I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right nub tbh. I thought it may have been the one right at then end which is horizontal so looks like a girl but everyone says boy, so gawd knows what I'm looking at.

The funny thing is, the actual scan was really clear, arms, legs nose everything but because it was moving around so much the only pic she could get was blurry. I assume the poor kid was hopped up on the 2 bottles of Apple juice I'd just mainlined to make my bladder full.

Nessalina Sun 08-Jun-14 22:07:28

I'm equally confused by which bit is nub! blush
Ah, 20 weeks will soon roll around and then hopefully you'll be able to find out for sure!
Is anyone on the thread going for a surprise? smile

RPopz Sun 08-Jun-14 22:35:19

Kinda tempted, unless hubby has any strong opinions otherwise. Would love it to be a surprise but then again. don't want to spend the next 6 months buying neutrals.... wink

HungryHorace Sun 08-Jun-14 22:56:21

There are some gorgeous neutral babygrows around.

We didn't find out last time or this time. I'm dying to know now, it has to be said!

cookielove Mon 09-Jun-14 01:05:28

hello all, the sun came out!!

California is lovely, my feet have swollen from all the travel, so I am resting and raising them kots. Need them to go down!!

Also there is a face book page for grads if any one wants to join, pm me!

My due date is 23rd Sept 2014 ;)

Minion Mon 09-Jun-14 05:54:00

Ooh if it's late it'll be a libra.. All the best people are. Well apart from a lad at school born day after me, he was a knob, but mostly we're a good bunch.
What part of California are you in cookie? I quite fancy the north wine region to your around, not a great fan of wine, well as a sleep aid it's fabulous, so not sure why I fancy it, it looks stunning.
Have lots of fun and drink lots of water, get those trotters down x

HungryHorace Mon 09-Jun-14 07:38:14

Enjoy your holiday, Cookie. You're due on my parents' 42nd wedding anniversary. :-)

I've been to San Francisco and loved it.

Dulcet had been going to join the Facebook group, but I'm not sure about anybody else.

First full day of annual leave today. I was awake at 5, typical!

Nessalina Mon 09-Jun-14 07:56:57

I'm not a big fan of Facebook groups because you get two conservations happening and people saying things like 'oh, did you not know? I must have said it on Facebook' hmm
I like MN.
Ness = grumpy in the mornings
It is good for seeing baby piccies later on mind wink

JuniDD Mon 09-Jun-14 10:05:29

We're having a surprise, if we don't inadvertantly find out at the next scan. MrJuni is quite adamant about this.

Happy holidays cookie!

Enjoy your day horace smile

I am revising for my exams and panicking about life with a newborn...should probably focus on my studying for today!

FurryScoob Mon 09-Jun-14 10:08:53

I'm sat waiting for the midwife to phone me back, my twat of a boss has kept quiet about someone at work having shingles for the last week. Hopefully I'm immune to chicken pox or all hell is gonna break loose when Im next at work.

HungryHorace Mon 09-Jun-14 10:13:27

To be honest, the Facebook group is more about scan / baby photos than anything else. There's not much / any idle chat (unlike my antenatal group!).

Furry, do they know you're pregnant? That's ridiculous keeping that secret in the circumstances.

zenry Mon 09-Jun-14 10:21:40

Min I say girl but if your earlier than 12+3 could just be a late riser!

Minion Mon 09-Jun-14 12:35:26

zenry they actually put me fwd to 13 + 1 at the scan, so maybe a girl afterall...eeep!

I cannot believe they would keep that quiet furry, how freaking irresponsible. Regardless of upduffage in the office there could and probably are people with compromised immunity.


Absolute utter Fuckwits.

Im seething on your behalf. Fingers crossed that you are indeed immune.
Let us know how you get on. x

FurryScoob Mon 09-Jun-14 12:47:17

I don't get this nub theory, I can't tell what I'm looking for!

I've had chicken pox so should be immune, midwife was very helpful & told me not to worry. My boss has no idea whether I've had chicken pox or not & happily put me & the baby at risk, I'm going in for my next shift ready to make good use of all these pregnancy rage hormones!

HungryHorace Mon 09-Jun-14 13:01:33

Minion, being put forwards doesn't mean it's accurate, it just means that the baby was that size when you were scanned.

I was moved forwards a week too, but know when I conceived, so know it's not right. I was just grateful to leap forwards a week! DD was moved forwards 4 days, again wrong as I also know when she was conceived. :-)

I'm crap at nub theory too, Furry!

zenry Mon 09-Jun-14 13:09:17

I was put forward 5 days but I know when I ovulated so they have actually only put me 1 day ahead. Cant wait for obem on wednesday. Anyone going to watch?

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 13:29:40

I've still got the whole of the last series taped on the sky box... I couldn't watch it as I was too bitter about ttc. Now it seems too real and scary to watch!!! blush

Minion Mon 09-Jun-14 14:12:26

Yep thats what I thought, i know when I ovulated so unless I implanted really early (approx 6-7 days) then I'm right. We'll see at the 20 week scan tho, I fully expect them to say, 'Oh Minion, looks like you knew all along'..well dur!
im very excited that currently mat leave is a week closer, however ha!

I too am shocking at guessing nubbage.

HungryHorace Mon 09-Jun-14 14:28:45

Minion, now you have your date, that's it. The next scan is anomaly only, so they won't move you again. :-)

I don't know if I'll watch it. The screaming does my head in! I was nigh on mute during labour with DD.

Minion Mon 09-Jun-14 14:47:38

So I wont even get the saisfaction of being proved right?
Gah, spoilsports ha!

I like OBEM but it dont half attract some questionable folk. Showing the gory bits gets a bit much on a full stomach post take out scoffage

HungryHorace Mon 09-Jun-14 14:50:03

You really don't want to go backwards...that'd be gutting!

All TV like that attracts questionable folk. Nature of the beast, I feel. Can't be loads of people lining up to have their labour filmed, I imagine!

cookielove Mon 09-Jun-14 15:05:53

Hello all, my feet look almost normal! I think im my 12 week scan they put me forward, my original due date if I remember correctly was the 29th of Sept, so that's just under a week!

furry im my first pregnancy (I work in a nursery) there was chicken pox and in this one there was mumps! I was off work for three weeks and it took almost 2 months to get the results of blood test to confirm immunity (for mumps)

I am in Ventura, for a week! My brother is getting married on Sunday! Then we are travelling up the to the parks to see the redwood's and across to San Francisco, then back down to Lax.

Good times!

FurryScoob Mon 09-Jun-14 15:48:39

Cookie your making me want a holiday!

I use to watch OBEM but DP's banned this & the last series while we were TTC in case I changed my mind think its too late for that

Thanks for the support on the chicken pox ladies, I'm sure it'll be ok, at least I know I can't trust my boss to keep me safe at work!

DulcetMoans Mon 09-Jun-14 17:42:54

Eurgh. Been at an away day today with a distinct lack of hourly snacks I have become accustomed to! Then again, managed to put on 3lb this weekend so maybe I deserved it!

Can't believe your boss kept that a secret from the office furry, so dangerous for everyone!

OBEM will be watched in my house, be interesting to see if I feel any different this time compared to previous years!

Oh and it will be a surprise for us too I think. I like the idea of finding out on the day!

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 18:20:24

Cookie that is a disgrace. Can you complain in some way? A while ago a colleague of mine was pg and exposed to a friend's child with chickenpox... she wasn't immune and so one of the consultants at work gave her the vaccine himself when he found out! Mini perk of working in a hospital I guess! hmm

My back huuuuurts.... surely its too early for this!?

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 18:21:40

I meant Furry then obviously!! Cookie its a disgrace you're in California and I'm not... wink

Nessalina Mon 09-Jun-14 18:50:54

I can't believe the negligence Furry!! What idiots! shock Really hope there's no issues for you, glad the midwife was reassuring. If they know you're pregnant I think an official complaint is in order...

I didn't know OBEM was back on! I've still got last series to watch still - thought I'd save it til it got a bit more real...!

Minion Mon 09-Jun-14 18:54:03

Urgh. Feel like garbage today. And just looked in the mirror, I'm all square, where has my waist gone?
Is mental how quickly your body changes isn't it? My little not quite a bump, bump is now turning into a I can see you bump, bump.
So strange.

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 19:11:25

It is weird how it all knows what its doing isn't it? DH commented my nipples were bigger this morning! shock blush Makes you wonder how some people go months without knowing they're pg. I wonder if we weren't ttc and early testing I'd be able to ignore/ explain away all these little things!

zenry Mon 09-Jun-14 20:00:03

I also wonder how they cant know?!

Anyone cloth buming? Ive just ordered my first ever teenyfits! Excited!

wilhelmeaner Mon 09-Jun-14 20:09:16

I think they must be the symptomless people RPopz, I'd find it tricky to ignore feeling this shit and having such giant sore boobs.

If you've had the pox, things are most likely to be ok Furry. But if you get a rash then go to GP.

So jealous of your holiday Cookie.

Aargh I can't face work tomorrow.

Nessalina Mon 09-Jun-14 20:11:39

I don't get how people can not know. Especially if they've been upduffed before! I'd know this crap feeling anywhere!
My breasts have got even bigger. I bought 4 new bras only 2 months ago, now I'm going to need more! hmm

DulcetMoans Mon 09-Jun-14 20:25:17

Sorry, are we ignoring the cloth buming comment from zenry there?! Pahahaha!

Holiday does sound awful cookie. It's drizzly here, you should come back.

Even if it was jut the boobs I would probably be questioning if I was pregnant cos its such an unusual feeling. But guess not everyone gets the same feelings!

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 20:52:33

I've always been tempted by cloth bumming Zenry! But not sure if its just one of those pie in the sky ideas i'll never put into practise because its slightly trickier than the norm.... blush I am a nappy novice after all!

FurryScoob Mon 09-Jun-14 20:55:19

I'm gonna make an official complaint but I don't think anything will happen. I had chicken pox a few years ago as an adult & was pretty ill with it so I'm keeping my fingers crossed ive had a good enough dose of it to be immune.

I don't get how people can go so long without knowing their upduffed either, only trapping my nipples in a vice could make them hurt more than they did in the first few weeks!

DulcetMoans Mon 09-Jun-14 20:56:30

Oh I thought it was an autocorrect but now I see! Sorry zenry!

I am thinking about it to use whilst at home but not researched it. Link would be appreciated if you have a supplier!

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 20:59:41

Hahaha well now who looks silly Dulce grin wink

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 21:02:42

I just need to say arrrrrgh!!! Some fuckwit is arguing with me on ebay and apparently my pg hormones won't let me rise above it angry lol.

JuniDD Mon 09-Jun-14 21:03:29

I'm planning to do reuseables. If you go to the nappylady website (just google nappy lady) you can fill out a questionnaire and she sends you two recommendations for kits. Pretty useful, although I want to have a look at them IRL so need to plan a trip to the hippy shop on the other side of town for sometime.

Sorry about the chicken pox scare, furry, I'm avoiding a friend at the moment who has a house of pox, I don't want shingles or anything, but had a bad dose as a teenager so probably have a decent immunity. People are so thoughtless.

DP asked tonight if we could go on holiday...I said he should choose where we go & book it. No holiday for us then! wink

wilhelmeaner Mon 09-Jun-14 21:15:18

Is he as useless at planning holidays as my other half Juni?

I don't know about using reusables. I feel like if I was going to do it, I should have done it first time round. My plan last time was to use them in the house and then disposables when we were out but I kind of never got around to it. Apparently the environmental benefits are negated by using the washing machine to clean them and it's only significantly cheaper if you use the really cheap ones. Plus I'm pretty lazy I might look into it again though.

JuniDD Mon 09-Jun-14 21:19:05

He's funny really wil. Sometimes sorts really nice stuff. But I can tell this time it would be my job and if he wants to go away that much he can sort it! grin grin

RPopz Mon 09-Jun-14 21:27:00

Ooh I like the nappy lady! Some scary looking contraptions on that website though hmm hehe x

DulcetMoans Mon 09-Jun-14 21:36:01

I know popz, what a fool I am! I thought it as a new interesting way I saying clothes buying.

Hands up to useless hubby - we'd never do anything or go anywhere if left to him!

Nessalina Mon 09-Jun-14 22:05:15

I am epically lazy. Reuseables have never even crossed my mind! I'm already dreading the washing just in babygrows!!

Minion Tue 10-Jun-14 07:15:27

I'm a bit on the fence about washables. One one hand, great yes, recyclable and breathable and I only put cotton on my bits so should do the same for MINIon, otoh, all the washing poo down the sink..bleurgh, my gag reflex goes mental near a bin on a hot day.
As for husbands planning holidays... Here have mine. I live with Judith bleeding chalmers. The man is ridiculously good at planning. Me, I'm a bit blasé.

HungryHorace Tue 10-Jun-14 10:21:20

Disposables here, I'm afraid. I couldn't be doing with the extra washing and we don't have a tumble drier, so winter would be hideous as we'd be surrounded by drying nappies!

DH tends to defer to me when arranging stuff, though he could do it himself if he didn't. :-)

Min, is your husband as orange as JC?!

Minion Tue 10-Jun-14 11:29:24

Haha horace, believe me if he could, he would! He proper hammers it on holiday but the poor thing hasn't quite worked out just how pale skin, blue eyed, slight ginger tinted he is yet. He's only 31, I give him 5 more years before it sinks in..

Nessalina Tue 10-Jun-14 17:32:13

Quiet afternoon... Work was sooo dull. Can't believe it's only Tuesday!
Could definitely feel some little baby squirmings today - such a weird sensation shock Very cool though smile

RPopz Tue 10-Jun-14 19:11:07

Good point, we don't have a tumble dryer either... confused

Bread and cheese for tea! grin

wilhelmeaner Tue 10-Jun-14 19:34:36

Mine never plans anything either. Sigh.

I had to have a sandwich for tea too as the thought of anything else made me want to spew.

How exciting Nessa.

RPopz Tue 10-Jun-14 19:37:15

Just nearly cried at the OBEM trailer.... guess I won't be allowed to watch the actual series then!! Lol.

Have you actually been sick at all Wil?

That is exciting Ness grin Sorry work was rubbish though!

Minion Tue 10-Jun-14 20:32:34

Girls girls girls.. My hair is no longer greasy.. Is this the miracle second trimester starting?
I just had to share, was well impressed!

wilhelmeaner Tue 10-Jun-14 20:56:19

Oh I love pregnancy hair Min, can't wait until mine kicks in!

No Rpopz. I actually know I won't be, I'm never sick. But just feel constantly seasick. I think I may actually go to bed.

HungryHorace Tue 10-Jun-14 21:14:09

I think I'm giving birth to an elephant...this baby is intent on battering me to death from within. Don't think it's stopped for the last few days. And it's HARD!

ELCS date tomorrow. Yay!

Wil, do you wear seasick bands?

RPopz Tue 10-Jun-14 22:00:05

Hooray for nice hair Min! Thankfully that's one delightful pg symptom I have managed to avoid so far. Even my skin is amazing, despite my preposterous diet! Hormones gotta be good for something eh.

Same here Wil I'm never sick either. Been feeling sick and retching like a trouper but still not actually vommed yet and don't think I will tbh. I wonder if we'd actually feel better if we did vom though?? My preggers work colleague swears by those travel sickness bracelet things but they're not very discrete!

RPopz Tue 10-Jun-14 22:00:57

Wow Horace that's crazy - so by tomorrow you'll know exactly when bump is arriving!! grin Eek!

Nessalina Tue 10-Jun-14 22:20:10

It's the L'Oreal 'I'm worth it!' Trimester! grin Get swooshing! My hair has been very easy to manage lately, and it's growing like mad!

That's a bit exciting Horace! Have you set your mat leave date yet or will you plan it round your ELCS date?

DulcetMoans Tue 10-Jun-14 22:55:12

I didn't even know such a symptom existed! Will watch out for sexy hair from now on.

Exciting times horace! How do you find out - are you waiting on a letter of appointment?

Minion Wed 11-Jun-14 06:59:53

Oh god, please let it be the 'L'Oreal trimester and the not the Cheryl 'dull, lank, lifeless' Cole stage!
I've had to wear my hair up for 3 months as just one finger ran through it would turn it into a do that could power a roadside cafe for a year. Don't even get me started on my skin.
Spotty Herbert had nothing on me. I hope that clears up too.

It's particularly galling as I used to be able to go three days without a shampoo, my hair is really very thick and strong, grows like weeds and doesn't get split ends but the past 12 weeks let's say I looked like worzel gummidges slightly more tidier cousin.

HungryHorace Wed 11-Jun-14 07:24:46

Min, I've not had that symptom before (do the old wives link it to a sex?!). My hair generally stays as it was (last time) or gets full and glossy from the start, to the point that my hairdresser said it felt different!

Yay that yours is now 'worth it'!

Ness, I finished work last Friday. I've been on secondment since I went back from my last mat leave and decided that it would be too complicated to try to slot back into my actual employer for 2 weeks (and it's a 90 minute commute each way), so I had a debrief there on Friday morning and then finished.

I've 5.5 weeks' leave to take so mat leave starts at 36+6, which isn't too bad.

Dulcet, I think the consultant will just tell me the date today face to face. :-) I'm not really sure how it works really, as I was told to book my appt between 30-34 weeks, which I did after my first consultant appt after my 20 week scan. Since then I had to go to VBAC clinic to discuss my options.

They'd better not get me back again. It's like a cattle market where your given time mean nothing! The scan plus appt took 2 hours last time. Good job DH was with me. He won't be today though as DD has a consultant appt herself in the next city to check her hips are level at exactly the same time.

Just want to know so I can plan!

How's everyone feeling today?

Minion Wed 11-Jun-14 10:43:12

Horace, well if the old 'girls sap ypour beauty and boys give it' myth is anything to go by, I suspect it would point to girl.
I hate waiting to find out.

OOOH exciting, by the end of today you know when youre meeting your new addition!
Thats excellent news!

DulcetMoans Wed 11-Jun-14 11:17:41

When's the appointment horace? We all need an update now! haha!

Hooya for panicking that I don't feel ill enough please!?

HungryHorace Wed 11-Jun-14 14:56:04

Don't panic, Dulcet. I had 2 weeks of sickness this time then nothing at all. And no boob pain. Symptomless, in fact! And I'm definitely still pregnant with a bonkers, belly-shaking, baby!

I have a date, but I'm not putting it on here in case I've been outed (like I was before!).

I will say that it's when you'd expect it to be though. :-)

I've put it on the Facebook page too!

RPopz Wed 11-Jun-14 19:53:32

Make the most of it Dulce! I had some good days last week and thought I'd reached the mythical 9 -weeks ms getting better stage.... Apparently not!

Is that really how you outed yourself before Horace?? How annoying!

I've never heard that saying before! Since my skin is lovely I'll go for boy... but I'm a flabby pig so then... maybe its a girl... confused grin

wilhelmeaner Wed 11-Jun-14 20:35:07

Nah, that's not true. I had great skin and hair last time and generally 'bloomed' and it was a girl.

That's awful Horace, who twigged on it was you?

Mini hooya Dulcet, am sure all is well.

Don't do the sea bands. I used to get awful travel sickness and I never found they worked for it. Plus as Rpopz says, now the weather is warmer and I'm in short sleeves it'd be too obvious.

So I had the tiniest bit of spotting today. I'm being all calm and rational (check me out). In my gut I feel things are ok and time will tell anyway. Have booking app later in the week so will chat to midwife then.

RPopz Wed 11-Jun-14 22:28:44

Massive kudos for your calm and PMA Wil. There's a lot to be said for gut feeling (though I tend to ignore mine as its a massive drama queen...) Hope the spotting stops soon thanks x

HungryHorace Wed 11-Jun-14 22:58:49

I was outed by posting about my inlaws not coming to our wedding (long story, but no, they didn't come).

And I have no idea who it was as they weren't polite enough to tell me (which is what you're meant to do). I know they know my MiL, but I've got no idea who they are either on here or in RL.

So if they're reading this...I think you're a rude, inconsiderate bitch who enjoys stirring shit and karma will bite you on the arse one day.

I'm glad you're being calm and rational, Wil. Would your period be due about now? I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. :-)

RPopz Thu 12-Jun-14 09:16:09

Wow that is shitty Horace. I never really though about being outed on here having any serious consequences apart from being a bit embarrassing!!

Hope alls well this morning Wil x

DulcetMoans Thu 12-Jun-14 10:39:37

Oh god horace, that's horrible! Same as popz, never thought it would be anything other than embarrassing but if I think about the moaning I have done about colleagues sometimes I guess it could be more than embarrassing at work!

Keep calm wil, hopefully the midwife will put your mind at rest.

I'm in the facebook group people! I can confirm it is secret!

Nessalina Thu 12-Jun-14 15:18:29

That is crap Horace. Stinkers.
One of my best pals knows my user name, but I haven't been fussed enough to change it - I think I'd just do a temporary NC if I had anything embarrassing to post! I outed myself because when we had the problems with the last pregnancy she was searching on Mumsnet to find out more about Turner's Syndrome, and she realised the post she was reading was actually me! She was mortified and told me, but it wasn't like she was snooping anyway.

Hope the spotting has stopped Wil, I salute you in your stoicism!! Do mention it to the midwife even if it stops, it's good for them to keep a note of these things. How far on are you now?

HungryHorace Thu 12-Jun-14 16:17:32

When I came across my cousin by accident I immediately sent her a text to tell her, but she was fine about it.

It's only polite to tell someone if you've outed them, but clearly the bitch person who outed me was more interested in shit stirring. Hey ho.

How're you today, Wil?

RPopz Thu 12-Jun-14 19:12:00

I'm hiding in here today. There seems to be a miscarriage a minute on the due in Jan thread at the moment.... I really thought we were in the safe zone now!! confused Feeling increasingly twitchy about my 12 week scan now... sad

Has everyone been enjoying the lovely weather? I've had today off but unfortunately am working tonight instead! Ah well x

I'd probably be easily outed as my user name isn't terribly imaginative!! hmm

wilhelmeaner Thu 12-Jun-14 19:27:17

Ah don't worry Rpopz, remember that those due at the end of Jan won't be very far along yet. I'm due the 18th and I'm only 8+5. You're a lot safer up at the 10/11 week end. I haven't joined that thread this time as it freaked me out altogether last time. Ooh does that mean your user name is similar to your real name. I'm going to start guessing wink.

I change my username slightly every couple of months to make it slightly harder to search me but if someone was really bothered to read all the shit I have written, I suppose it would be easy enough.

No more spotting. I wonder whether it might have been from a small cut or something. I actually would have been due AF about 4 days ago so I suppose that could be related but it was such a tiny amount. Anyway, am feeling fine about it. And also, I have a frigging bump! Can't believe it, I was so lovely and petite last time and I'm clearly heading for big fat waddledom this time.

And there was no one else you already knew in the fb group Dulcet?

HungryHorace Thu 12-Jun-14 21:06:02

RPopz, our August thread was horrendous for a while. We lost far too many people in a very short space of time. :-(

It's not what you need when you're already nervous, is it?

I held my breath when Dulcet and I became Facebook friends, but we have no mutual friends! There really aren't very many people in the secret group. You'd be unlucky to know somebody else in there!!

DulcetMoans Thu 12-Jun-14 21:55:04

Didn't see anyone I recognise wil, but I haven't explored much! I will spy on the list! Not sure what to do now I'm in there though... Might just loiter!

Haven't been in the jan thread for a while but sounds like I'd better stay away popz. Don't want to hear the bad news! Poor ladies.

So the football started... hmm Good job we did make a baby cos there would be limited time for the next 6 weeks!

DulcetMoans Thu 12-Jun-14 21:58:38

Just had a minor heart attack as a few of the members had 1 mutual friend. Freak out! But it's ok - it's horace! Phew!

HungryHorace Thu 12-Jun-14 22:03:26

Ha ha! :-) Sorry to scare you!

RPopz Thu 12-Jun-14 22:20:47

Haha perhaps I'll peek my head in on the fb group then! What do I need to do??

Think I majorly freaked because one of the mc ladies is about 10ish weeks - turns out she's had a mmc which most likely happened a few days after her early scan! Horrendous. sad

I'm at work until 8am! sad sad Thankfully seem to be having a nausea free day today... hopefully will continue! grin Just inhaled some chocolate brownies the that someone has thoughtfully left behind grin

Nessalina Thu 12-Jun-14 22:41:51

8am?! Poor you! Bloody hell.

I've not been on the Nov thread since this one got going. It went through a scary MC zone too, and there were a lot of people saying a lot of nothing so I just lost interest. I much prefer our select crowd of viroids smile

Man it's been hot here today! Got some of my maternity clothes through in the post for holiday smile Not a bad selection from New Look. Really nice maxi skirt with a bizarrely baggy bump cover - not quite sure if I'm supposed to fold it over or something, lol! shock Mat clothing is such a minefield!

Has anyone got any experience of buying nursing bras? Thought I might pop into Mothercare on Saturday and have a look. The boobs are getting out of control, and it feels like a waste to buy more normal bras!! blush

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 07:46:55

Haha, I fear new bras may be the next thing on my list... DH will honestly not stop staring at my tits!! Guess there's gotta be some perks of being preggers!

30 long minutes until I'm home in my lovely bed!! grin

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 08:21:21

Morning. I've got some maternity bras from Debenhams which are pretty good and supportive. Quite pricey though. They're not nursing bras just non-wired and structured. smile

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 08:31:45

Yeah RPopz if you can be bothered with that nonsense, I guess it is a plus! Whenever MrWil suggests anything of the sort, I look at him with my spewy face and a raised eyebrow. Doesn't get brought up again for a while. Actually wish I felt well enough!

Nursing bras are generally not that attractive. I just got ones from Mothercare and M&S last time and they were comfy but the trouble is, if you have bigger boobs, they're not that supportive and if you're used to wearing underwired ones, the shape and height is obviously very different. I have found a page called 'hotmilk' (bit of a rank name if you ask me) though where they look a bit nicer (although still underwired). Ooh or found this site with underwired ones: www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk/search.asp?extratype=1 Not sure how comfy they'd be when your breasts are massively engorged but might give it a go.

That's awful about the mmc Rpopz. Had she still been having symptoms?

haha Dulcet that's the kind of thing I'd do - fb freak out!. It would be weird seeing people in real life as I kind of have a picture of everyone in my head and I bet they wouldn't match at all.

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 08:57:56

I know you have worked all night popz, but I am jealous you can get in bed now. Its so hot in this office and it's not even 9am. I am going to melt today. Must stay hydrated!

Are there different bras for while you are pregnant and when the baby comes? I am confused by the name nursing bra when you are pregnant...!

10 weeks today! Waiting for my NHS email to see what fruit I am. My app said prune... hmm

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 09:13:44

Haha prune doesn't sound the nicest!

Well if you want to breastfeed, you may as well buy nursing bras now (they have little clips so the front panel can be undone for easy access) or you'll waste money buying two types. If you don't want to breastfeed then you can just buy maternity bras which are basically just wireless bras for comfort as far as I can tell. You only need them if your normal ones are hurting you. I'm doing ok in normal ones this time whereas last time had to give them up straight away which worries my paranoid self.

Hope your office cools down.

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 09:34:54

So, its just gone half 9 and I can tell my productivity is going to be pretty low today...

Thanks for explaining the bras wil! My boobs are bigger but I can probably keep going with these for now. When is your midwife appointment?

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 10:22:25

In an hour, I'll be more preoccupied with keeping the terrible toddler entertained rather than focussing on the midwife though.

HungryHorace Fri 13-Jun-14 10:45:12

Regarding nursing bras, it's really not worth spending the extra money to get those. Non-wired, bigger bras are best for now.

Our antenatal midwife said to wait til 10 days post partum before buying your nursing bras as your size should be established by then.

Mine are massive. And growing. Not sure I'll be able to stand upright once my milk comes in!! :-)

If anyone wants to join the Facebook group PM me your real name / email address / description of profile picture and I'll sort it.

Home alone with DD today. She's so active it's very hard to keep up. But thankfully she's not as grumpy as first thing before her nap. Bloody teething.

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 12:19:11

Oh I feel your pain Horace except it must be extra difficult at your stage of pregnancy. I bought nursing bras during pg last time and they fitted fine until baby started on solids and then I started to get a bit smaller again from feeding less. Mine only went up a couple of sizes though and were pretty big to start with so I guess it depends on how much you change.

Appointment lasted about 25 minutes if that. MiniWil was exceptionally well behaved and I didn't even have to drug her. But, they didn't do a pg test, which is surely weird no? So I basically won't have my pg confirmed until my scan? Which of course was booked for when we're on holiday and needed changing. I'm sure it was a much longer appointment last time.

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 12:33:18

No one has tested me either wil! I could be making this whole thing up! Did you discuss the spotting? Extra sweets for mini-wil then!

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 12:53:34

Haha, well extra grapes anyway, she hasn't learned what a sweetie is yet grin thank god as she eats like a horse

Oh that makes me feel better. I definitely peed in a pot last time round though. I really hope I'm not making it up, can you imagine how embarrassing that would be? She was wholly unconcerned about spotting because she asked if it was similar to mc and I said no. TBH I've found a sore bit and think I have a small cut. No clue how that happened mind you.

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 13:25:34

Glad the appointment went well Wil. I think I've heard the booking app isn't as long for second+ pregnancies. No one's ever done a pg test on me either!! (though I've done enough of my bloody own... lol). I was surprised too. I peed in a pot but they just protein/glucose dipsticked it.

Intresting bra talk! I'm still in my normal bras, just with the straps made bigger on a few. I was reading in my book the other day that underwired bras are not recommended in pg at all! Surely not!? I can't live without underwire! I figure as long as they're not hurting I'm ok?

Good to reach double figures isn't it Dulce grin I've been feeling loads better/less sick these past couple of days so hopefully am over the worst!

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 13:32:09

Haha, Wil - I haven't actually let Mr Rpopz touch/ utilise them wink He just likes a good gawp!

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 13:40:54

It does feel good popz but I know I am a bit behind too so feel like a bit of a fraud! I can feel another POAS coming on though as I have mostly felt ok this week except tired and boobs.

Email from NHS arrived but no fruit! So disappointing! I will have to go with prune then...

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 13:52:15

Yeah I think I'm a bit of a fraudster too. My crazy 5 week cycles put me a week ahead which I'm thinking they'll take off me at the scan!

HungryHorace Fri 13-Jun-14 13:55:49

No, they don't test you normally. Just take your word for it. Bonkers really!

I'm glad it went well and they weren't concerned. :-)

I had a minor heart attack earlier as I thought I'd lost my phone in Sainsbury's. Turned out that a small person had inserted it under the sofa! It definitely wasn't me as I can't get to the floor without huge effort!

My boobs were from big to football sized last time. I have a couple of nursing bras that are like vest tops, so not a particular size, and they're useful.

Trying to get DD to nap now...not having huge success! Currently crawling round her cot. Hmmm!

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 14:04:02

football sized??! Ouch! grin. Ha I also have a toddler who hides things. usually house keys when we're in a rush to get out!

I presume it's just for comfort Rpopz, I can't imagine what actual hurt it would do you. You may find it becomes too uncomfortable eventually.

I have to get my ass into gear but afternoon pukey feeling has surfaced.

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 14:04:37

*harm, not hurt

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 14:11:53

I've pm-ed you Horace - hopefully there aren't 500 other HungryHoraces on mn who I've also messaged!

I have no idea what any of you look like!! Not even in my head!

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 14:18:26

The non-wired bra thing is because the wires can press on your breast tissue in the "wrong" place and not do your forming breast ducts any good. Definitely not recommended when breast feeding.

The maternity bras I have have strong seams in the same place as underwires so they fit really nicely and give the same shape. No droopage here!

Can I have a little hooya please? It's the private scan tomorrow which is exciting, but it's in the same private hospital where the molar pregnancy was diagnosed. I swore I'd never go back there and can't help feel terrified it'll be bad news again sad. Silly I guess but MrJuni isn't being very "with it" this week with the support. Argh.

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 15:37:29

Yay popz, you are in! I know who you areeeeee! grin

Tiny sympathetic hooya juni, I bet it is unsettling but there is no reason for it to happen again. You'll see a lovely heartbeat and all will be well! Stay strong.

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 15:46:54

Haha how did you know it was me!? wink blush x

HungryHorace Fri 13-Jun-14 15:58:39

Yes, gentle Hooya for Juni. What you're feeling is how everyone feels, even without any sad history behind them. I'm sure you'll be fine. :-)

RPopz, we went to the same uni! Many years apart, but I went there too. I think you'd have been city campus though whereas I was at the other 2.

DH has rescued me from a grumpy, nap-refusing DD, so I'm happily sitting in peace on the sofa. It's lovely.

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 18:19:33

Big hugs Juni. Just think that you have already had the scan so you know things are ok really. This is just so you can have a nice experience and ask all those questions you didn't get a chance to last time (if you have any). There is no reason for anything to be amiss. You'll be fine thanks. (And leave a big old sign up with flashing lights telling MrDD you need a hug).

Ooh you're right about the bra thing, I feel like I once knew that fact! I am the complete stereotype of a second time around pregnancy. First time I read everything and knew all the dos and donts etc and this time I have read pretty much nothing and can't remember anything apart from I'm not supposed to drink and eat soft cheese.

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 18:22:38

And no street drugs wil, stay off the crystal meth wink wink wink wink

Thanks for the hugs and hooyas smile will try to get excited. Knackered today which always makes me a bit low. I may suggest a trip to John Lewis after the scan to look at prams shock xx

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 18:55:58

Oooh I love John Lewis! grin

Bloody hell I feel sick as a dog now. angry

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 19:29:29

Shit really? shock hides crack pipe and kicks Bunsen burner under rug wink

Nessalina Fri 13-Jun-14 19:30:13

I normally wear a 34DD underwired bra, but last pregnancy my breasts were SO sore and swollen from very early on so I got measured and bought some non-underwired 34H bras! Now I'm growing out of those! Definitely feels like a waste to just get more regular bras so figured if I get nursing bras now with clips then I'm baby ready smile But after what Horace said I might hang on to chat to my midwife... I need something though, I'm being strangled by current bras! I think some crop-top style night bras would be good too.

Glad the booking appt went well Wil! They didn't test me either. Maybe they're wise to our crazy peeing and figure we're not worth wasting a test on!

My baby is apparently the size of a grapefruit today shock

Sheer nosiness may tempt me back into Facebook - really intrigued to know what you lot are really like! Just so long as all the good chat is still on here!!

Gentle hooya Juni smile Stay chilled, things should be fine xxx

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 19:40:44

ness have a look at these. I'm pondering a purchase but coping ok though I think I'll be in an E before long. I was a B/C before, can't get my head around it! And then it all goes back/different again, so weird!

Feeling better now though trying not to kick MrJuni's lazy arse. I asked him to do me some soup and he said no as he's too comfortable reading in bed, and he's not hungry! He did a really nice dinner last night so I'm trying to be reasonable. Still. I'm so tired! But oh yeah, he's tired too... hmm

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 19:43:07

Oh, and yes wil. Heroin too. It's ALLLL gotta go. wink.

My pregnancy app has a bit of pregnancy info every day. One of them was about stopping taking street drugs. I've looked ahead and one is about getting a tattoo in pregnancy. I guess it's good it covers all of these things but it wouldn't occur to me to get a tattoo right now!

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 19:56:35

Ooh maybe there will also be one about 'female piercings'. 'We advise you not to get your clitoris pierced during pregnancy as it may be an infection risk during delivery.'

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 19:59:25

Did you write the app wil? That's exactly the tone!

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 20:29:19

Ha no but maybe I should write one to top up crappy stat mat pay! We could have a JSing app, bet that would be better than some crappy NHS one.

Just realised I didn't pick up my free vitamins from the table after my appointment. Fecking annoying.

Nessalina Fri 13-Jun-14 21:20:37

Ooh that is annoying! We don't get free vitamins around my parts - why the heck not eh? I like freebies as much as the next woman!

RPopz Fri 13-Jun-14 21:39:15

No freebies here either! And we love free stuff in Yorkshire!! grin

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 21:53:13

Ah, bummer about the free vits. They keep trying to push them on me but I've got about 1000 pregnacare to get through. Wonder what the criteria are for giving them out?

wilhelmeaner Fri 13-Jun-14 22:10:23

Oh I was going to say it's probably a Scottish thing, but not if you get them too Juni. Maybe we just look like we need them! grin

Nessalina Fri 13-Jun-14 22:39:28

Well I live in Leeds, my mate lives in Bradford, she got them, I didn't! I think it's either something to do with areas with nutritional issues, or it's just whether there's budget for it!
She did share some of hers with me grin

DulcetMoans Fri 13-Jun-14 23:16:05

We get them but I think that's something to do with the type of area you live. All our stuff is through sure start centre and we lie in ex-council estate - a rough bit of town traditionally. So we get the vits and, if you are on benefits, free fruit and veg! I do get free swimming pool access which I thought was good.

My app was talking about giving up smoking last week. Couldn't help think it was a bit bloody late to tell me that by then!

Might have to POAS in the morning, paranoia big style!

JuniDD Fri 13-Jun-14 23:22:32

I live in a deprived area so guess it's that. Am being kept awake by some delightful neighbours out on their dirt bike on the common land sad sad so tired, it's bad enough it's too hot without that bloody racket.

cookielove Sat 14-Jun-14 01:08:11

Hello, I got a feee advent bottle from a maternity shop in California I was very shocked!

My feet are so swollen!

HungryHorace Sat 14-Jun-14 07:43:42

I get free vits too. Not because of my actual location, but the borough / metropolitan area I live in is deprived in some places, so I'm caught by catchment.

I tools Sainsbury's pregnancy ones til about 16 weeks then the free ones (I like to take zinc in early pregnancy).

That's good, cookie. Sorry your ankles are swollen though. :-/

Who has weekend plans then? I have none!

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 08:21:12

Working.... bleeeurgh sad sad

DulcetMoans Sat 14-Jun-14 11:01:20

Well I learnt crochet last night so I'm off to buy the equipment to make a baby blanket! Just hoping I can remember what I learnt...!

Nessalina Sat 14-Jun-14 11:19:59

I've slept in big time confused Supposed to be a useful day! Going to Mothercare...

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 12:41:11

Aaargh Dulce crochet is awesome!! Glad to have another crochet geek on board grin After the first few rows you'll just do it without even thinking.

Everyone at work is really pissing me off today! On the verge of sending them all home... #grumpypregnantlady.

JuniDD Sat 14-Jun-14 13:46:02

What you getting at Mothercare ness?? I had a quick ponder at prams last time I was in there and got freaked out!

Well, the scan was AOK and the sonographer was LOVELY and we got lots of pictures and we saw that everything is in working order. She didn't tell us the sex but I think it might be a girl. Call me a weirdo but she showed us the four valves of the heart which I loved. smile.

Come home now though as this hayfever is kicking our arses so hiding indoors with some tennis. Sorry you're at work rpopz. If you're the boss can you go and hide somewhere? xx

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 13:49:27

You learnt it in a night and now you can make a blanket Dulcet? Are you super talented or is it quite easy? I suppose my area is quite mixed, most places in Scotland are.

I was out this morning but now feel shit. Hoping to go into town when wee one wakes up.

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 13:50:58

Sorry Juni, x-posted. That's fabulous news, so glad you had a good experience. I also have hayfever, does anyone have any tips of things we can actually take that help?

DulcetMoans Sat 14-Jun-14 14:02:09

So pleased it was a good experience this time juni and you got the reassurance you needed. It is amazing to see things like the heart, knowing that's happening inside you!!

I'm by no means super talented wil, believe me! I struggled with the counting even! I am going to try start making, not saying I will get anywhere with it soon! I made a granny square yesterday, my theory is if I keep going with that it will become a blanket...!

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 14:05:37

Ah I suppose it would. My gran taught me how to knit a little bit but I can't remember now. Why do you feel a bit unsure today Dulcet?

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 14:13:35

Unsure about being pg? You're not POASing again are you Dulcey?

So pleased the scan went well.Juni and hopefully has erased the other silly one from your memories!!

Crochet is quite easy Wil - just takes practise. You could make a respectable scarf or blanket with just one stitch.

I'm the boss today so sent the buggers home! On my lonesome til 6pm now grin

JuniDD Sat 14-Jun-14 14:16:30

I'm taking Prevalin nose spray at the moment, wil. It says "safe for pregnant, breastfeeding women & athletes" so assuming there's basically nothing in it. Think it's a gel that coats your sinuses. I'm usually a two type of antihistamines, eye drops and steroid nosespray kinda gal so hoping I can cope for the rest of the summer. It's a shame going outside is so miserable!

I live on one of the two "posh" roads in one of the most deprived areas in the UK so that's probably a reason for the free vits. I used to work with my local councillor and casually complained about the dog poo. When I told him my road he was like "Chuh, you live down the posh end, whatevs!". Thanks, but we still get dog poo everywhere!!

Rambling away, MrJuni is working again and I've got no one to talk to...should phone my mum.

DulcetMoans Sat 14-Jun-14 14:16:40

Just don't feel pregnant really. It gives me the worries and scan isn't until 11th July so finding out for sure if its all ok is a while away.

And, you know, never google!

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 14:27:47

Ah you're probably just one of the lucky ones Dulcet who doesn't get many symptoms. Your scan is quite late, mine was supposed to be on the 10th only I couldn't make it. Why don't you call the midwife and have a chat to her if you're properly concerned? She might be able to get you in to listen for heartbeat or something?

Juni that's great, I haven't heard of that, will try to find some this afternoon. Last pg, my hayfever pretty much stopped but not so lucky this time round.

Doesn't that mean more work for you Rpopz?

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 15:06:08

Google is the enemy!! Can't help feeling that pregnancy must have been more enjoyable prior to the internet!! I'm starting to worry about my scan now though, in case there's nothing in there! I guess its natural worry. You'll probably feel sick later and wish you hadn't said anything wink

The morning's are the busiest Wil, once everything is set up its pretty manageable alone - weekends aren't that busy. Plus I can play on my phone and not feel guilty! grin

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 15:09:40

Wish you were my boss if you're prone to sending folk home early!

DulcetMoans Sat 14-Jun-14 15:31:55

I have had symptoms wil, I think it's the change to not having them but creates the worry. But it's probably normal to have wobbles. And hopefully I will regret it in a day or so wink

So crochet isn't going to plan already. I am following same pattern as yesterday but today it's a circle and yesterday was a square!

When do you finish popz? Will you get some fun in the sun?

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 15:37:28

I don't work many weekends so I'm not usually the boss wink Most people expect to be sent home early on a weekend anyway.

Finishing at 6 Dulce and then on to Tesco! (rock!). Its not very sunny here today though so I'm not really missing out smile

Nessalina Sat 14-Jun-14 19:28:22

Well Mothercare was interesting! I told the lady that I was looking for nursing bras, and she said 'oh no, we don't measure for those until 37 weeks'. So she measured me up as a 36J good grief!, and then she said 'ah, well we actually only do 36Js in our nursing bra range' grin

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 19:33:41

Bloody hell Ness! shock

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 20:13:07

Hahaha! That's crazy. Did it fit? I never trust those bra measuring people, they always give me the wrong size.

RPopz Sat 14-Jun-14 20:21:33

What size were you before!? I can't even comprehend a J cup... wink blush My bra's been really digging in today - after all my bitching about needing underwire the other day.

My worse in the morning sickness has turned into worse in the evening sickness.... waaaah sad Mr Rpopz is making us watch the football... double waaah!!

How's the crochet going Dulce?

Nessalina Sat 14-Jun-14 20:54:31

I started out as a 34DD!
The bra felt pretty good, but didn't feel like I was getting much more support than my current preggo bra (a Triumph no-wire 34H) so didn't go ahead and buy yet. £28 for two which isn't too bad, so I may still consider it. Just hoping that I've stopped growing!! DH wants me to try and weigh the boobs, lol, not sure he can believe how big they've got... Not sexy though, they're going very blue-veiny too shock Ugh. Dread to think what they'll look like afterwards!!

wilhelmeaner Sat 14-Jun-14 21:14:58

Ah well once I had finished bf, mine were about 2 sizes smaller than they used to be and definitely a little further south. I am not looking forward to seeing what will happen after number 2. The veiny look goes away though. That's some jump though Nessa, I went from an E to a FF and then down to a D after I'd finished. Think I'm probably back up to an E now though. It's actually nice having them a bit fuller again.

This is probably a really stupid question but can I use antihistamine eye-drops? That spray you suggested has really helped Juni but my eyes are still so itchy.

DulcetMoans Sat 14-Jun-14 23:24:54

Wow, J-normous knockers on here!

I'm out for a birthday tonight combined with football viewing of course! I've found a new way to et away with not drinking - secret mocktails! You need a willing barmaid though. (Tomorrow I will tell you an extension to this story that might have outted me in a sitcom style!) mocktails = sugared up to my eyes though!

Crochet is mixed success - I seem to e creating a spiral item. But I could make a round blanket!?

JuniDD Sat 14-Jun-14 23:38:07

My friend did a gorgeous spiral crochet blanket. I can knit but not crochet. Looking forward to the mocktail story tomo!

I am not watching football but being kicked plenty from inside!

J cups... shock wow!

DulcetMoans Sun 15-Jun-14 09:23:01

Oh that's positive juni, maybe I can make a spiral blanket too! Not sure how to end it though - just keeps going and going?

Just realised its Father's Day - did anyone do anything for their DP/DH? Never really thought about it much and wonder if I missed an opportunity.

So, cocktail story. It was all working out beautifully. They had dozens o cocktails but not mention of non-alcoholic drinks. I had snuck up to the bar and asked whether they could make mocktails and the girl was really helpful and basically said they can make most things as a mocktail and I could just tell her the flavours I wanted and she will make one. Fab! I had a mango and pineapple mojito first and it was possibly the nicest thing I have ever tasted and it looked the part so no one questioned it. Then we all found out cocktails were half price until 9pm. Inevitably we all piled to the bar at about 10 to 9 to stock up. Me and DH got up here first with a list of 6 cocktails, 2 of which were mocktails for me. Some of the other girls turned up at the bar to order theirs and stood by the till. My new favourite barmaid rung our order up as he was making them and left the word 'mocktail' on the display right where they stood. I got a bit twitchy but thought they might not notice so ignored it. Then she tarted making my new mocktail, a blueberry number she had recommended that became my new favourite but she never told me the name. She put some shots in it and I got a bit stressed and was trying to tell her that was meant to be a mocktail but it's loud and busy so quiet is difficult. Turns out that wasn't mine and she ran though all the glasses, pointing out the ones that were alcohol free to us and all our friends if they choose to listen. Then she started making mine an it looked great so this stranger next to me asks me what it is and I'm stumped. Partly I don't know and partly because I would then have to admit its alcohol free! The barmaid took over and loudly explained that it was a mocktail and probably not what stranger wants, stranger agrees.

So in the process of getting these drinks I just felt like it all ramped up and up until the barmaid had pointed out that I wasn't drinking a good 20 times! Friends never mentioned it so not sure they really clocked it. But if I was them, I would have and I would be asking questions!

Upside is - mocktails are wonderful!

(Sorry that's so long!)

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 09:47:14

Haha they were probably so hopped up on their non mocktails they didn't notice! grin Plenty of your 5 a day there in all that fruit juice!

Working in the round can be tricky Dulce - it took me ages to get to grips with. Rows are easier - you can just keep going and going and going until its the size you want, and it works up quite quickly if you use a tall stitch like treble cochet. Did you give up on your granny squares?

Anyone got any exciting plans.for today? x

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 09:48:30

Aaah I debated buying DH a father's day card from the foetus when I was buying my Dad's card!!! But then I couldn't decide if that was really tragic / if it was too early and jinxy.... so I didn't! confused

HungryHorace Sun 15-Jun-14 10:18:09

I got a card for DH last year, but I was 39 weeks' pregnant (and waited til the Thursday before to buy online in case baby came!).

He's got the matching '1st Father's Day' card today. No presents as we won't do those til the kids are old enough to want to get involved!

Dulcet, how awkward. I'd have been mortified if I were you. I hope they didn't clock it!

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 15:24:58

Well I just went out for a look and bought a bedroom carpet... whoops. Expensive day!

DulcetMoans Sun 15-Jun-14 16:25:26

Wow, that was an epic post. Didn't appreciate that at the time - sorry!!

Is it a lovely carpet popz? Worth it I'm sure. I hate carpet shopping but I love having new soft carpets!

Nessalina Sun 15-Jun-14 16:37:07

New carpets are awesome smile Though definitely in the class of 'things that until I owned a house I thought costed way less than they actually do'! grin

wilhelmeaner Sun 15-Jun-14 16:47:09

Aw Dulcet, bless you. If they did clock it, it was good of them not to say anything.

I am getting grief for not getting MrWil a present! He's impossible to buy for though and actually I just never got round to it as I've been feeling so dodgy.

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 16:53:19

Haha tell me about it Ness! To be fair this one was in the sale so could've been worse. Its for the spare room (formally Mr Rpopz's toy store/ junk room) which is massive. So was expecting to have to pay mega bucks for some cheap crap. But turns out there was a sale on at our local carpet place and we managed to get a nice quality one for 50% off grin

Done nothing else useful today..m had loads of grand plans for cleaning, crochet, diy, dog walking.... so far I've sat on the sofa, eaten digestives and felt sick and sorry for myself! Oops.

DulcetMoans Sun 15-Jun-14 20:39:44

Popz, I can only seem to crochet in circles. WHY?! Going to try rows now but how do I turn around?!

Are you planning a belated fathers day present then wil or will he let it go?

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 20:55:47

Haha.. erm... you need to do a chain which is a wide as you want your finished product to be, (but don't slipstitch the ends together like tou would for a circle - just leave it as a long chain) then do your first row of stiches into the top of the chains. When you get to the end you do one/two/three chain stitches depending on height of stitch you're using and then flip it over and go back and stitch into the tops of the stitches on your first row and repeat ad nauseum or until its as big as you want it.... If you can make sense of that! There's some good videos on YouTube, that's how I taught myself. x

wilhelmeaner Sun 15-Jun-14 21:17:07

That sounds like a different language.

Mmm I'm not sure if putting effort in after the event is worse than not doing it at all? We did give him a card. And would have taken him out for dinner but we were all out at a function all day so couldn't really. Don't know, might try to think of a random nice thing for him.

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 22:13:01

You're building him a new baby, is that not present enough!? grin wink

wilhelmeaner Sun 15-Jun-14 22:22:22

That's so funny, it's pretty much what I just said to him. He made me a cup of tea and said "I just love being your man-slave." So I said "I just love being your baby oven." However I am fast learning that you don't get away with so much second time around.

RPopz Sun 15-Jun-14 22:38:40

You should get away with more if you ask me! I can barely look after myself right now never mind a small person too! smile

Minion Mon 16-Jun-14 07:23:07

Morning gals.
In Tuscany, weather is grim but it's so lush and pretty. We even watched fireflies the other night. (After working out it wasn't a person at the tip of the steps with a torch, waiting to knife us that is), so cool, sitting out in a lightening storm doing it!
Sampled the vineyards wine, small glass but so good, we're taking a few bottles home and the husband says he will save one till baby is here!

Went to Florence yesterday. Big big city, didn't realise it was quite so big, but the architecture (and cannoli) were amazing! However all that walking up hills etc is being paid for now.. Achy bump indeed. And I'm getting those stretchy type pains in groin... Oosoooosssshhh.

Anyways I was off to make a lush brekkies on the veranda but it's raining, so do I wait for him to fully rise to make the most of our lie in, or get up and have brekkies indoors?
That's the sum total of my problems today and if it remains like that, a all is well.

Off to walk the city walls in Lukka shortly. Please pray for sun x

DulcetMoans Mon 16-Jun-14 08:39:35

Wow min, jealous much! That all sounds amazing, you aren't going to want to come home! In comparison I am sat at my desk, breakfast-less, wondering if the shop is open yet and if I can get a yoghurt to eat in front of my screen.

I do not want to be here today. I am ready for maternity leave! My office is next to the nursery and I can hear all the little ones turning up for the day. So cute! Except the ones that cry and don't want to go.

DH going away with work this week - Mon-Thurs. I am going to be so lonely!

Thanks for the advice popz, I gave it a quick go and was unsuccessful but will try properly again this week. Will try print off some idiot guides too!

wilhelmeaner Mon 16-Jun-14 08:54:27

Aw Dulcet you sound a bit blue. Have cake and brew. Do you start work at 8?

Min it sounds amazing - apart from the weather. Italy in June should = sunshine so I hope it arrives soon. We actually have some today so praying it stays around.

Noisy vtech toys and tv Rpopz. They look after the small person wink.

DulcetMoans Mon 16-Jun-14 09:13:35

Thanks wil, I do sound a bit dreary, don't I? I am ok. Just a bit down today. I'll be fine in an hour. The good news is, the shop was open so now I have a yoghurt!

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 09:24:59

min that sounds amazing! Hope the weather cheers up, can't believe it's crap, went to Rome in May once it was boiling!

dulcet glad you've got food. Really recommend you tube vids, helped me loads with knitting.

Hayfever is so bad today think I must be doing 100s of pelvic floor clenches a day! grin

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 11:59:17

I am five months on Saturday and no one at work has guessed/asked me yet!! I need to email my managers as want to start leave soon. Don't wanna! Someone give me a boot up the are to tell them grin

HungryHorace Mon 16-Jun-14 12:08:43

As long as you tell them by 25 weeks!

I'm impressed you've kept it quiet for so long.

I hope you had more than a yoghurt for breakfast, Dulcet. I'd be starving just having that!

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 12:11:10

Indeed. But I think I would like some half days for ante natal classes. oh the inner conflict! wink wink

How you enjoying mat leave Horace?

I am so hungry all the time now and can't think of stuff to fill me up sad

DulcetMoans Mon 16-Jun-14 12:14:07

Yeah, that's an achievement juni. You must look good, or have a flattering wardrobe at least!

That is what I normally have for breakfast horace but I snack on fruit after 10am.

So my feeling slightly down earlier has turned into mild anxiety. I have managed to convince myself there is something wrong and I am at work having an internal melt down. I don't actually suffer from any actual anxiety related... things... I think a series of bad dreams and bad thoughts have just become very big in my mind!

wilhelmeaner Mon 16-Jun-14 13:31:06

Oh that's crap Dulcet. It's all out of your hands and control at this stage so try to just let go of all the stressy thoughts and tell yourself that if there is something wrong, you can deal with it as it arises. There is no point working yourself up just in case. The odds are in your favour. thanks

Yeah tell them now Juni in case the 25 week mark creeps up on you. When do you want to start leave? Also, they'll probably appreciate having more notice. I met someone last week who was due next month and with the top she was wearing, you couldn't even tell she was pregnant. Ha, at 8 months last time I looked like I had a beach ball shoved down my dress, could not even have hidden it with a tent. I think it's easier to hide it if you're tall. And count yourself lucky regarding the sneezing. After you've had the baby you'll also have the added worry of if you're going to wet yourself every time you sneeze grin.

HungryHorace Mon 16-Jun-14 13:34:39

I did that in both this and last pregnancies, Dulcet. It's normal, if frustrating. Worry is entirely natural. And I'm sure probably worse when your journey has been so long to get to your BFP.

I snack on fruit too. But after 3 Weetabix for breakfast! I need carbs!

I'm loving mat leave, thanks, Juni. :-)

Is there any reason you're not telling work? When do they need your MATB1 by? You may as well just go for it really. Especially if you want some leave!

DulcetMoans Mon 16-Jun-14 14:23:23

I know you have to tell work juni but I would be tempted to try and see how long it would take them to say anything! Could you get all the way to the last day without it being mentioned?!

Thanks both. DH is annoyed at me for stressing now too but I can't help my brain going round and round! Just ened to get out of work, might make me feel better!

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 14:34:14

Thanks peeps, gonna email now. It just feels very private and I don't really like the idea of people I don't like much knowing about it. Or any people we haven't chosen to tell. Complicated feelings! confused

dulcet sorry abt the anxiety, keep breathing and try to distract yourself with more food! xx

HungryHorace Mon 16-Jun-14 18:14:12

What did they say, Juni?

I had my MW appt today. I'm measuring 4 weeks ahead but MW wasn't worried as baby feels big too.

Because I have pelvic pain she may refer me back to the consultant to have a 38 weeks section instead of 39. It depends how I am next time she sees me in 2 weeks' time.

Oh, and baby is still breech, so it's a head, not a bum, sticking out of the right of my bump! Explains why (s)he can push so hard into my hip / pelvis as it's feet not hands down there.

RPopz Mon 16-Jun-14 18:25:49

Hope you're ok Dulce is the anxiety related to DH going away maybe? Mr Rpopz has been on a couple of nights out recently where I wouldn't have been able to contact him easily if I'd wanted to - and each time I had a mini mc meltdown... Hugs and brew

Juni I'm amazed you've kept it quiet this long!! There's rumours about me at work already and I think I've been pretty discrete (plus am not showing yet obvs). Hope telling them goes ok anyway - I agree they'll probably appreciate extra notice.

Hope the sun came out for you today Min! smile

RPopz Mon 16-Jun-14 18:35:14

Just bought my first baby thing!!?!?! shock shock Aaaaarggghhh....

Nessalina Mon 16-Jun-14 18:56:04

Hey all smile
Busy threads today!

Ha! You caved Rpopz! grin What did you get?!

Glad you're having fun despite the rain Min! I'd love to go to Florence, it looks beautiful! Take it easy though - DH was dragging me round town the other day, and I'm like 'hello! I'm pregnant! I move slower and get more tired more quickly than I used to'. I will say a prayer to the sun gods for you smile

Chin up Dulcet, it's hard not to panic, but try and think zen thoughts! I'm doing a lot of focusing on happy thoughts, and where I find I'm worrying, I just try and think that it's all out of my hands - whether I worry or not, the outcome will be the same, so why worry? It's working about 50% of the time I reckon wink

I feel your pain re: work though. God it's so hard to care about work!! I've got my half year review in about two weeks, and because I'm not there at year end my rating will stand, so it's important I get a good one. But after that? I can't imagine what'll motivate me to get out of bed!!

Is anyone else doing pelvic floor exercises?! I keep forgetting, I've probably only done them about 5 times. My fanjo is doomed.

RPopz Mon 16-Jun-14 19:31:51

One of DH's work friends who's on maternity leave was selling off some baby bits. Most of it was pink unfort! But have bought a Cabcoo sling off her for 20 quid. No idea if its a pile of crap or not but they're 60 in John Lewis!! Hopefully it'll be ok, was definitely wanting a sling of some kind anyway as the spaniel dog is not going to be a walking nicely next to the pram type of boy! So hopefully a bargain.

Feels a bit real and serious now!! grin

I'm not going to hear the end of it if I don't do some pelvic floors... my Mum's job relates to all that sort of stuff and she's obsessed!!

Minion Mon 16-Jun-14 20:14:22

Ciao bellas!
Well the sun came out this arvo, bloody glorious it was, still warm now, and we've just whacked on the BBQ so all good in the hood (vineyard).
Completely over exerted myself (totally worth it though) by going up the leaning tower of Pisa.
Man was I fooked by the top. But it's another unesco ticked off the list!
Supposed to be lush tomorrow so it's a stay by the pool/villa day then off to Siena and Florence again later on in the week.
It's been so relaxing (apart from the walking) and surprised how cheap it's been.. 1 small glass of wine and a Nutella cake... 1 euro 90!
Bargainous indeed...

FurryScoob Mon 16-Jun-14 20:22:08

Evening viroids
min hope you found the sunshine today, Florence sounds lovely.
Hope your feeling better dulcet anxiety seems to be part of pregnancy even if its not normally something you suffer with.

I've had a really shit week at work, confronted my boss about the shingles to be told me, the midwife & all advise I've had from the hospital is wrong, I can't possible catch anything from this other lady. I had been doing 2 people's jobs for 1 wage but I've now decided bollocks to them & I'm doing my job only.

Anyone booked any antenatal classes, there are no NHS ones here so I'm not sure what to do. confused

FurryScoob Mon 16-Jun-14 20:26:10

envy envy envy your holiday sounds bloody lovely minion any chance we can all jump on a plane & gatecrash your relaxing day round the pool?

Minion Mon 16-Jun-14 20:36:57

Ai furry c'mon over. Bring a sunbed tho as there's only two. Oh, and don't forget the sat nav, who knows where you'd end up without one (not in the mountains when it tells you to turn left and you go right, eh, husband of mine?).

wilhelmeaner Mon 16-Jun-14 20:48:44

Min your holiday sounds amazing.

Can't believe there aren't NHS ones Furry. What kind of thing do you want? Am sure NCT will do factual based ones. There is a company called 'Lazy Daisy' who do "Active Birthing" ones. I know someone who goes to their baby classes and likes them but don't have any reviews of the birthing ones. I don't know if I'll do NHS ones this time, probably not much point doing it twice?

RPopz go and put your puppy in the sling and see if it's any good. I need some recommendations grin.

RPopz Mon 16-Jun-14 21:14:19

Nutella cake!?! Oh god I need some of that!

Haha Wil she's posting me it so I'll have to let you know wink grin Seems to have some good reviews online though. x

DulcetMoans Mon 16-Jun-14 21:43:39

I also need to know what nutella cake is min! Not a massive fan of nutella but at the moment I feel I need to try it! Hopeful for your relaxing day tomorrow.

I hear very positive things about the NCT classes furry. As much for the support after the baby is born as for the classes. Pain that all the NHS ones are booked though. Midwife told me to do them quick so I have had my booking forms back over the weekend but I have heard they get oversubscribed.

Thanks for the reassurances viroids. I think it is all pregnancy related - a symptom in itself! I am a bit over emotional which is not normal for me at all. Feel better in my own home.

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 21:45:28

Hello, work were very nice. I had a quick meeting with one manager who said the most important thing was that I look after myself. smile

I am rapidly turning into the ante natal class queen. I've booked NCT, mainly for MrJuni who reckons he'll ask me anything he needs to know. He doesn't know what he needs to know, FOOL! I've also booked Lazy Daisy which I understand is more of an exercise class but the instructors often do couples workshops and stuff. I'll probably also go to NHS classes for completeness but I can well imagine it'll be an hour of "stop smoking! stop drinking! breastfeed!" given some of the issues in the area. (they find me rather exotic and extraordinary as I talk "posh" and know words like "obstretic". NOT A JOKE)

JuniDD Mon 16-Jun-14 21:53:31

I think I look freaking massive, btw. I'm only 5ft tall and short backed so no torso for baby to hide in. Think they're all unobservant, very polite or I was walking around looking a lot larger than I thought. I'm wearing quite a lot of loose tops which I guess helps. Also, it's an office job so when I'm sat down I just look chubby.

(yay for my world cup flag, although I'm not watching any football at all!!)

FurryScoob Mon 16-Jun-14 22:43:08

Nice flag juni how do you get one of those?
No idea what classes to go for, I just want the facts about labour & what to expect if things go wrong, It would be nice to meet other mums to be as well & DP needs a crash course in looking after a baby, he's never changed a nappy!
Looks like I need to get googling local classes & read loads of reviews.

Nessalina Mon 16-Jun-14 22:59:07

I'm going to go NCT I think - we don't have any family in the area, so I'm really counting on making some good pregnancy pals to stop me going mental once I'm a mum grin

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 08:28:24

Ooh dear that's all like a foreign language to me. Hopefully will get to hear about all this stuff soon!

Hope all viroids are well this morning. My delightful new symptoms are grease and spots! No L'oreal trimester for me!! grin

brew brew brew

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 08:42:00

Morning all!! Praying for a quick work day here, I want out of this place! I have booked yoga tonight so hoping it will calm me down.

Loving the flag juni! Why Netherlands?

From what I am told by recently pregnant friends, that's exactly what NCT is good for nessa. There seems to be a consensus in the four people I have spoken to about it here that, it's not necessarily going to give you more than the NHS classes while you are pregnant but the support once the baby has come is more than worth it. Relies on you having a good group though...!

Did you not get any details of the NHS classes from your booking in appointment popz? I would look into it as I hear they do get full quickly.

JuniDD Tue 17-Jun-14 10:21:57

re flags, there's a thread in site stuff. It was linked in another thread I was reading last night. I chose Netherlands as I like Amsterdam! Very good reason.

Next task is considering whether to do an announcement at work. Probs just tell the psycho I work for then wear a tight top! grin wink

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 12:00:24

OMG. Just found dopplers as an iPhone app...

HungryHorace Tue 17-Jun-14 15:15:19

Step away, Dulcet! The apps really aren't any good as Dopplers.

Our NHS antenatal classes are booked after 28 weeks. We went on an all day Saturday one at about 34 weeks. I'm not bothering this time!

I wouldn't pay for NCT ones. Other people I know have had a variety of experiences with them. Whether you stay in contact depends on who is there! :-)

Nessalina Tue 17-Jun-14 15:46:48

Well the NCT ones are booked now, so really hoping they're worth the dosh!!
Sat waiting for 20 week scan... Frickin' bursting for a wee!!!!

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 17:46:49

Eeek hope the scan goes well Ness and you haven't peed yourself yet grin

Nope they didn't say anything about it Dulce - unless there's something about it in the huge mass of paper work she gave me! Though I'm sure I read it all. The NCT stuff sounds like something we should look into as me and DH have no family close by.

Another mmc on the January fred... Swinging violently between excitement and terror for next Wednesday! sad

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 18:34:12

I'd already downloaded it by then horace, but it's deleted now. Couldn't even hear my own heartbeat! Should have known it would be too good to be true!

Did you make it to scan room without wetting yourself nessa?! Hope it all went well.

Your 12 week next week popz? Why is mine so far awayyyy?! My class info was in the stuff she gave me at booking in. But it's not the same anywhere is it! I managed to get onto most of mine ok. Have first class next Saturday 'health in pregnancy'. Then nothing til October I think!

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 18:49:11

Yup I'm 12+ something next Wednesday apparently! I expect I'll get put back a week tbh. When's yours? x

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 18:50:42

11th July. Would make me 14 weeks technically but I expect to be 12 and half by then probably.

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 18:53:31

14 weeks is cutting it a bit fine for NT testing isn't it. Wonder why they've booked you in so late! I think I'd have caved on the private scan if I'd have had to wait til then. x

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 18:58:17

It is a bit, I wondered if they were basing it on the fetility clinic scan right at the beginning. I don't think I will actually be 14 weeks which is good but if the fertility clinic haven't told them that then they don't know that! Have you got the day off?

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 19:02:23

Yep booked it off yesterday. DH was supposed to have it off too but its looking as though he'll have to go into work afterwards angry I doubt I'd get anything useful done if I went back to work after tbh though!

wilhelmeaner Tue 17-Jun-14 19:49:27

Maybe you could phone and get them to move it forward a bit Dulcet? Mine also seems like ages away so trying not to think about it. Thankfully I got it changed to a non-working day as I wasn't looking forward to having to ask for the time off.

Yeah we're not allowed to book any ante-natal stuff till later on either. I think everyone who wants it gets it though, none of this 'too full' nonsense. Guess that is the only benefit of being in Scotland.

Does it actually freak you out to read the Jan thread Rpopz? Maybe you should stop if so?

Hope scan went well Nessa?

Don't think anyone gives you the facts about labour Furry, they all lie and tell you how manageable it is without pain relief. Am sure NCT will do that kind of thing though and about nappy changing and bathing etc.

Juni can you let me know how the Lazy Daisy ones are when you start them please? I feel like I'm going to need to do something to get over my first birth experience if I have any chance of popping another one out. I really don't want to go to something all flowery and chanty though!

Nessalina Tue 17-Jun-14 19:50:14

Alreet ladies grin
Scan was good! Hurrah! We went in bang on time which helped with the bladder, but she was only scanning for 5mins before she said 'actually, your bladder is a little too full, do you want to go for a wee'? I've never jumped up so quick in my life! Lol. We had to have a break halfway through because baby was squirming all over and wasn't staying in the right place long enough for her to check his spine, so she sent me off for a walk and a glass of water. Second time he was better behaved, and we got some decent piccies!

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 19:54:33

Haha, great news Ness grin

The mc rate is what's freaking me out Wil! I have this obsession with mmc recently. I guess I'll stay out of there for a bit!

HungryHorace Tue 17-Jun-14 20:19:14

The chance of MMC is really, really low. Most MCs make themselves known before the scan. It's impossible not to worry though.

With DD I was puking loads so was actually OK at the 12 week stage. This time I wasn't being sick and had no real symptoms, so was scared witless.

I mentioned to the sonographer that I was scared and she made sure she told me the second she saw the heart beating. :-)

Lovely scan picture, Ness. Did you find out the sex?

Dulcet, if you want just a basic Doppler you can have my Angel Sounds one if you like? The headphones are knackered and there's no gel left, but you can have it for the price of posting it. Any headphones work with it, so I'm sure you must have some somewhere!

HungryHorace Tue 17-Jun-14 20:20:09
DrFunkesFamilyBandSolution Tue 17-Jun-14 20:32:45

<delurkimg> 14wks, 2nd JS baby (& hopefully my last as it'll be dc3)!

Rpopz, rate of mmc is something stupidly low like 1-2%. But understand if t wasn't that it would be something else to worry about.

dulcet, if you take hungry up on the offer of angel sounds, it's awesome (any lubrication will do, even olive oil), found HB with ds2 at 9 weeks with it.

Congrats on the scan ness!

furry, have a search on Facebook for local parenting groups, there may be something through them re. Classes. You could always just book tours of the different facilities your nhs trust offers and spam those midwvies wth questions?

Our local NCT parenting group (not a member, didn't do heir classes) is for bump to toddler so worth seeig what yours is?
Also, netmums, should have a decent local page which should list pregnancy events in your area!

RPopz Tue 17-Jun-14 20:39:34

I figured it was quite rare- I never even knew it existed until mumsnet! And have never known of anyone in real life its happened too. I suppose i just thought it was so rare that there wouldn't be any on the antenatal freds either but there's been a few recently. My heart just breaks for them, I can't imagine how you'd get through something like that.

I'm just focussing on the fact that I so feel very pregnant (or very not normal anyway wink ) which is surely a good sign!

Anyway apologies for bringing the fred down! thanks brew biscuit

DulcetMoans Tue 17-Jun-14 20:53:26

That's what I am worried about too popz! I know the odds are good, I have nothing else indicating a miscarriage but the fear of mmc is quite high! I did stop reading the Jan thread, mainly cos I couldn't keep up. Sounds like a good job I stopped though!

That sounds fab horace, are you sure you won't need it for number 3?? wink I hadn't thought about them really but peardrop messaged me and mentioned one. Bless her!

Dr! Welcome! Your name still makes me happy. How are you feeling at 14 weeks?

That pic is great nessa, very clear. It's a little person! I bet you can't stop grinning!

HungryHorace Tue 17-Jun-14 21:39:22

You've already seen a heartbeat, Dulcet, so your odds are really good. :-)

Oh yes, I told Peardrop your news, I hope you don't mind? We still email each other quite regularly.

And unless we have a FUBAR with contraception, there isn't going to be a number 3! So if you'd like the Doppler, let me know.

I think the 'problem' with being on antenatal threads is the early losses. Our August thread had a good few and we had a really grim week or two around the point that you Jan girls are at. But the odds are still on your side. :-)

Anyone watching the programme about the missing Malaysian Airlines plane? It's fascinating.

Nessalina Tue 17-Jun-14 23:33:39

Hello DrFunke! smile

We already knew we were having a boy Horace! Although if we'd needed to know apparently he was making it very obvious! grin

The fear of MMC was very much with me before my 12 week sad That's the curse of MN really... When it only happens to 1-2% and you've got loads of pregnant ladies on a forum, it's almost like whatever can happen, will happen to someone on there. But it's still quite a rarity! So keep positive ladies smile Not long til those scans now!! Maybe I'll finally be able to relax now the 20 week is done... I doubt it!

DulcetMoans Wed 18-Jun-14 08:41:14

Right, in theory I have a flag when I post this...!

I know you are right horace. Just need to keep positive. DH is worried how stress and worry affect the baby so trying to get me to chill out. Hard when he's away though. I'm so lonely! The cats are great company but shit at conversation...

Have you had any name thoughts nessa? I know you probably wouldn't share anyway but just wondered...

HungryHorace Wed 18-Jun-14 09:05:57

I missed that you knew already, Ness! Do you have names sorted?

I also never knew about MMC until I came onto MN. Then it becomes this huge fear as you see people experience it. :-(

I'm glad your cats can't talk, Dulcet. That'd be weird! How long is your DH away for?

Minion Wed 18-Jun-14 10:47:22

Oh god, mmc talk. Even at 15 weeks I'm terrified of it. Today is one of 'em days.
The past two days I've had sy tetchy ow types twinges, none today and the boobs have gone a bit softer...
You'd think I would have relaxed a bit by now eh?

Sun is blazing here in tuscany. We're having a sunbed day as both knackered from walking everywhere, but we keep getting dive bombed by various Beatles etc, never seen the husband run so fast.. Had to laugh when he made me walk before him to check Godzilla wasn't still taking a nap on his sunbed.

HungryHorace Wed 18-Jun-14 10:50:57

Minion, hard boobs = growing, soft boobs = not growing for now. Itchy boobs often also happen after growing boobs. :-)

Sounds like you're having a lovely time. I'm not jealous at all!

Minion Wed 18-Jun-14 12:13:56

horace, the voice of logic. Thank gawd you're here talking me down. Having a lovely time thanks, just had lunch on our patio, now we're back to sunbathing (shade bathing for me really) and it's gone so quiet. The annoying people in the villa about 200 mtrs away have stopped and gone out. The law mower has quit it's incessant hum so all we are left with is silence interspersed with crickets, the lazy buzz of a kamikaze fly, the soft cooing of the local wood pigeon, the occasional car in the valley and the nearby (ish)s cockerel making you aware that, yes, he's still here.


HungryHorace Wed 18-Jun-14 13:08:45

My poor DH has suffered through far too many of my 'Waaaahhhhhhh my boobs aren't sore / hard / itchy, the pregnancy must be failing!' conversations and has talked me down too!

DulcetMoans Wed 18-Jun-14 15:10:28

Pregnancy advice needed! A colleague is back from America and has bought Reese pieces. I got excited and took one and then remembered the whole confusing thing about peanuts. What is the rule there?! Can I just eat it?! (WARNING: it might be too late. I might have already eaten it)

You do a good job of talking us all down actually horace! Good to have someone that has been through it already.

I would love it if my cats could talk. Especially the little one, she needs a good talking to cos she is so naughty. I could explain why I don't want her dirty paws on the side and why I don't think it's good she gets teabags out of the compost! I think we have a good understanding with the older one, she knows the rules!

min - that does sound a bit lush. You won't want to come back!

Minion Wed 18-Jun-14 15:29:33

Erm, I eat peanuts on a daily weekly basis dulce, hope I've not too much damage.
Seriously tho' I think that's the old advice, something to do with the NHS etc advising parents to avoid them contributed to the peanut allergy epidemic... Or some myth along those lines...
So in short.. Eat and enjoy...--and send some here--

FurryScoob Wed 18-Jun-14 15:45:44

Same here with the peanuts I've been addicted to crunchie nut cornflakes for weeks, if their on the naughty list it's way too late to worry now confused

Anyone else's feet grown? Mine are deffinatly not swollen but I've just had to buy a size bigger trainer. I can cope with bigger boobs but not clown feet!

DulcetMoans Wed 18-Jun-14 16:49:05

Yeah, I think it is old advice. When I went to docs for the initial appointment all she really gave me was a list of things I couldn't eat and starting talking about nuts as a no-no but I told her I was snacking on brazil nuts to fight off sickness at the beginning so she started to backtrack and then I was confused!

Anyway, done now and it was tasty!

No bigger feet here furry, but I did hear someone on telly say they had gone up half a size with each child! Why would that happen?!

HungryHorace Wed 18-Jun-14 17:00:39

Nuts are fine! Go for it. :-)

And my feet didn't grow first time, but do seem bigger this time.

My sister's have just gone done to pre-pregnancy size 6. 16 years post-pregnancy!

RPopz Wed 18-Jun-14 18:13:47

I never understood the peanut allergy bullshit! Its basically nonsense... the child is surely more likely to be allergic to something you fastidiously avoid than not! I'm still eating nuts.

And also I'll have wine on holiday and stilton at Christmas!!! (Well a little bit anyway wink )

Nessalina Wed 18-Jun-14 18:49:51

Nuts are fine! They thought they might cause peanut allergies, then apparently when they advised people to stop eating them, the incidence of allergies actually went up! So the did some more studies and backtracked grin Stilton is also fine btw - it's only soft blue cheese (like Roquefort) that's naughty!

We've got a name short list smile There's two we really like, and one of those that I'm really keen on. Just hoping DH likes the same one as me!

I'm sooo jealous of your holiday Min! It sounds just fabulous!

RPopz Wed 18-Jun-14 18:52:26

OMG I thought all mouldy cheese was out!!!!

<rushes to shops for stilton fix>

wilhelmeaner Wed 18-Jun-14 19:10:06

It's lucky I'm so full or you lot would be making me hungry. Yeah nuts are all good. I know quite a lot of people are weird about giving them to their kids. There really seems to be a public fear of them. I'm always eating stuff I shouldn't be - usually salami.

Somebody told me your feet can go flatter and hence bigger if you gain a lot of weight - not sure whether they were taking the piss though confused.

RPopz Wed 18-Jun-14 21:29:23

Why can't we have salami? Bloody hell I am a serious pregnancy n00b!

JuniDD Wed 18-Jun-14 22:11:01

Congrats on a well-timed nice scan ness, lovely.

Hi DrFunke don't think we met before, congratulations to you.

This page explains the cured meats thing. I expect it's ok, plus apparently if you've ever had a cat you probably have toxoplasmosis anyway.

I need a bit of a hand hold tonight. Texted a friend who's had a recent mc to tell her my news. I was just at the beginning when she told me about her mc so couldn't then turn around & say "I'm pg!". I hope she's ok and feel sad if my news has made her sad. sad. But, mini-Juni has been kicking up a storm which is nice.

minion your holiday sounds lovely. It's way too hot for me at the moment, I really hope it doesn't get hotter, I won't be able to cope at work. Stuffy building, no air flow. Oh well, coming clean tomorrow to all colleagues so at least I can stop wearing polyester tents!

wil lazy daisy review noted, classes start in a couple of weeks.

RPopz Wed 18-Jun-14 22:14:44

Oooh riiiiight.

I'm a crazy cat lady so more than likely riddled with toxoplasmosis anyway wink

DulcetMoans Wed 18-Jun-14 22:22:47

Yeah, of you can catch something off a cat a probably have it too!

That is an awkward one juni but hopefully she will feel happy for you. Did she text back? I'm seeing my friend this weekend that has been TTC nearly a long as me an no luck. She's having tests etc and think they have found the problem but not looking forward to discussing it in case it feels a bit like I'm rubbing it in.

OBEM just had hypnobirthing couple on - anyone thought of that?

wilhelmeaner Wed 18-Jun-14 22:46:07

I know nothing about it dulcet. normally I wouldn't be into anything like that but I'm pretty petrified to give birth again so wouldn't rule anything out!

thanks juni, sorry you had a difficult Evening. that kind of thing can't really be avoided though. Am sure your friend will be happy for you. One of my best friends announced her pg around time of my mc. I didn't feel any badness towards her at all, two things are totally unconnected.

JuniDD Wed 18-Jun-14 23:13:39

Thanks loves.

I have the hypnobirthing CDs and do the pregnancy relaxation ones, you don't start the hypno stuff til 32 weeks. I quite like it so far.

JuniDD Thu 19-Jun-14 07:20:57

My friend hasn't replied yet sad hey ho, had to tell her at some point, eh?

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 07:25:02

Give it a few days. If it was me I'd be all angry and sorry for myself for a bit and then realise I was being an ass a week or so later. xx thanks

Nessalina Thu 19-Jun-14 07:39:48

Can't be helped Juni - there's really no right way to tell someone if they've just MC. I think text is best because if you tell them to their face they can't really be upset without looking like a cow. Like Popz says, they're probably having a rage and will realise that it's not your fault pretty soon! I had a friend at work who fell pregnant shortly after my TFMR and knew all about it, and she didn't tell me to my face that she was pregnant, even though we'd talked loads. I just found out on the grapevine, and that was pretty hurtful that she didn't feel she could tell me, so yeah, you've done the best thing, just give her space.

JuniDD Thu 19-Jun-14 08:38:00

Yes, I've cried enough tears over other people's pregnancies, it's very odd to be on the other side. Oh well, what will be will be. thanks thanks

DulcetMoans Thu 19-Jun-14 08:43:12

I'm sure she will be ok juni, if anything she might need time. Like wil said though, the two aren't connected. You getting pregnant does not impact on her ability to have a baby. I had to tell myself that a lot when TTC! Hope she gets back to you soon.

Right, it's not even 9am and I know I don't want to be here today.

JuniDD Thu 19-Jun-14 09:56:40

I nearly cried on the bus I didn't want to come to work! And I had to stand, need one of those badges!

Cheered up, she replies and wants to see me. smile hurrah! so glad.

ness forgot to say lovely scan pic xx

Just been outed at work, better tell my colleague!!

HungryHorace Thu 19-Jun-14 10:17:28

Juni, you've done the right thing, I'm sure it's a matter of time before you hear back. :-)

Dulcet, can you PM me your address so I can send you the Doppler please? It's wrapped and ready to go.

HungryHorace Thu 19-Jun-14 10:18:21

Oops...read everything first! I'm glad she responded positively, Juni. :-)

DulcetMoans Thu 19-Jun-14 11:26:36

All done horace, woop woop!

Hope you are happier now then juni. I am an emotional pregnant lady, for sure! I thought about crying this morning too but for no other reason than I am at work. Which is the exact same reason I did cry a few weeks ago. I don't hate my job or anything, just don't want to be at work!

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 18:35:54

Glad your friend got in touch Juni smile

I'm not much of an emotional preggers yet! (Apart from going all misty eyed over babies in the street/ on the bus) Possibly due to all the ADs though... hmm

DH is going out tonight so might treat myself to some OBEM!

wilhelmeaner Thu 19-Jun-14 19:20:21

I'm not emotional either. I generally am too lazy for emotions I think.

I don't feel sick anymore. which is just as well as I couldn't cope with sickness plus hideous hayfever.

Anyone have exciting weekend plans?

Nessalina Thu 19-Jun-14 19:46:33

I'll mainly be shopping for holiday maternity clothes. Ugh.

Anyone watching the football tonite? smile

JuniDD Thu 19-Jun-14 20:07:45

Evening, definitely feeling better tonight, so relieved, it's been worrying me since she told me about the mc. sad AND I came out at work so no secrets anymore! Now I just need to worry about mini-Juni being a bit quiet today. Always something...

My emotions are more or less ok, just sometimes VERY down, but I wasn't crying my eyes out last night so that's all good.

This weekend is busy busy with family stuff so just tomorrow to get out of th way and can't wait!

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 21:05:33

Chickened out of OBEM again. Watching celebrity Masterchef instead.

Cleaning the damn house again on Saturday... applying for the promotion I'm too pregnant to get... Then tea at mumma Rpopz's on Sunday for the sister's birthday!

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 21:06:57

Is it too early for bed??

wilhelmeaner Thu 19-Jun-14 21:24:54

I'm in bed. Never too early.

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 21:36:31

Masterchefs are cooking snails on toast with bone marrow.... why? WHY?

Definitely bedtime.

DulcetMoans Thu 19-Jun-14 21:59:39

It's all been football here. Now I have a sad husband. But I did get to eat pizza so I'm feeling alright about it.

RPopz Thu 19-Jun-14 22:01:39

Hahahaha its "wear your England shirt to work day tomorrow" ... wonder if anyone will actually bother! grin

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 07:11:50

Did they lose? Are they out now? Nobody seemed very confident this year.

Snails on toast sounds grim.

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 07:24:13

They did lose. I think it's more or less impossible for them to go any further now.

One of my cats has gone AWOL sad. I hope she comes back soon. She always wanders for a couple of days in the summer but I don't like it! Doesn't help I saw her lookalike about a mile from the house yesterday. Hope she's back when I get back from work tonight.

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 08:16:01

Is she off JSing or have you had her speyed? If it's normal for her, am sure she'll return. I'd quite like a cat but MrWil doesn't like them.

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 08:50:02

Mine did that the other night Juni - she never usually leaves the back garden! I think its the extra day light. Confuses them. Hope she's back soon (minus kittens!) x

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 09:24:04

She is spayed so no kittens here! She does wander but we have foxes and badgers at the back so worry she's been beaten up sad

Got the bump out at work for the first time. Feels weird!

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 09:29:48

Hehe I bet everyone's thinking you just got pregnant overnight!! grin

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 09:35:15

Mine was a dirty stop out this week too juni. Came back at 6am crying to be let in. It only happens when it's nice out though, off on a jolly. I am sure she will come back soon!

What have people at work said since you announced and displayed the bump then juni?

Mine is the size of a lime this week apparently!

HungryHorace Fri 20-Jun-14 09:53:47

Ha, Dulcet. I'm harbouring a pineapple! Certainly feels spiky. :-/

I'll get to the post office today and send the Doppler. Hopefully it'll get to you tomorrow. :-)

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 10:26:51

Mine's apparently the size of a "large mango". I'm not familiar enough with mangoes to know what that means!

I did an email and one person replied saying "you're very very clever" which is possibly the weirdest fucking thing anyone's ever said to me. The normal people are amused by my tight top today. And someone told me that my bump is small. So, that's nice!

Having a hungry day today, munching on biscuits but may end up having two lunches at this rate. Also, it is BOILING, half want the early days of feeling cold again to get some relief!

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 10:41:24

I think a 'large mango' is cheating. They shouldn't specify the size of the fruit or it misses the point entirely! That large mango could be the same as a small melon. It should be one set size! I realise that is a bit rage-y for something not very important but it annoyed me when my friend was pregnant. She came in and was the size of a large this and a small that. NO! That cheating! For me this time we are picking things that are set sizes. My lime today is the same size as golf ball and that's one set size.

Phew. Hormones! (?)

Did you reply to the clever thing juni? That is weird! What was clever - getting pregnant or keeping it quiet? What does it mean?!

Thanks horace, i'm super excited!! Haven't told DH, a surprise for him! haha.

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 10:52:11

* backs slowly away from dulcet *
Although, I'm always on board with a good rant. I'm going to find another website to give me a more precise measurement. At the private scan the woman said it was the size of a woman's hand. Which also means nothing. Apparently it's about 27 cm long which seems much bigger than a mango, that's nearly a foot, right?

He is a strange man, so I have just ignored the email. He also asked about seeing scan pics and I was like...er. NO WAY.

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 11:20:52

Haha Dulcet that is possibly the best rant I've ever read. You should do an AIBU wink

Juni that is super creepy.... confused

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 13:17:48

I know, it's a weird thing to get annoyed about. But its worked out find as now I put my efforts into finding a new solid scale of measurement! For 27cm I propose... the size of the 'cleaning bucket of joy' in my office. I just measured it - its 27.5cm but close enough. Too specific?

Not need for AIBU - We all know i'm not. wink

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 14:13:46

Ok, so I can tell MrJuni that Thumper is the size of the cleaning bucket in dulcet's office? hahaha! Hilarious!

Right, any tips for swollen feet/ankles? Being sat up all day isn't doing me any favours. I tried to put my feet up when I had lunch but it just wasn't long enough, or comfy enough. Trying to do leg exercises at my desk but it's not really helping. My shoes are so tight by the end of the day!

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 14:40:20

Short of wrapping ice packs round your ankles, not really got any ideas. ah it's roasting and i'm feeling sick again.

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 14:54:16

Sorry you're feeling sick again wil. Hope you can take it easy.

I'll try out the icepack-anklet look. smile

The cat is back, hurrah!

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 15:12:13

Not very glam is it juni, i'll find something else when i'm at home!

Yay for cat return though!

My back hurts a lot today. That is my pregnancy report. Although I did do a class last night so it could be that...

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 15:15:25

No, we need things like "the size of a Fendi clutch" or something. Sod all these food references!

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 15:15:40

Not that I have one of them lying around at home to measure!

Minion Fri 20-Jun-14 16:10:22

I'm at pear stage apparently, which is nice for the husband as apparently I already have a 'lovely pair' hmm

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 16:37:54

Hahaha oh Mr Min grin That sounds like something my DH would say...

Glad the puss cat is home Juni. They are a worry sometimes aren't they!

Sorry you're feeling sick Wil - the heat doesn't help sad

Oooh pregnancy report. I think I might be over the worst of the ms! Feeling humanish this week. Apart from wanting my bed from 8pm onwards... wink

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 17:12:14

I'm with you Rpopz, I could sleep any time of the day. Knackered. Definitely finding this pg easier than the first though. I reckon that means it's a boy.

Ha Min Mr Wil would also make a similar joke. Sounds like they'd all get on well. Can't believe you're only at pear stage though. Mine must still be a peanut. It's a long old 9 months.

FurryScoob Fri 20-Jun-14 18:52:22

I just googled baby size & apparently I'm currently carrying a heirloom tomato sized baby, what the hell is one of those?

Have a good weekend in the sun viroids, I'm spending it at work sad

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 20:07:24

Hello all!

I am officially miserable. My boobs are enormous, itchy, red and hot, and driving me CRAZY. Also feeling fluey and ill, so Dr Goofle has convinced me that I have mastitis! confused Anyone else's boobs gone mental?!

My sprog is apparently just the size of a mango - large or small not specified! grin 25cm crown to heel, but I guess he's all curled up still, coz that's pretty damn long in my book!

Glad the cat's ok Juni!

Sympathies on the vom Wil - you must be getting to the end of it soon!

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 20:10:21

Eeek sounds nasty Ness - didn't think you could get mastitis unless you were breastfeeding.... but then I know nothing!

Got out of work an hour early and Pizza Hut is en route... woop woop!

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 20:10:58

Feeling a teeny bit sick after my proclamation earlier!! Hopefully just hunger... wink

HungryHorace Fri 20-Jun-14 20:14:55

Mastitis already, Ness? Can you get to an OoH GP for antibiotics as you shouldn't leave it for the weekend really?

I'm glad the cat is back safe and sound, Juni. :-)

I'm glad that people are maybe starting to get past MS and other grimness.

I'm very tired after a trip to Liverpool, then a trip home via Mothercare and Kiddicare. Spent quite a bit too, on DD and DC2.

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 20:28:38

It's actually fine, just lasted a couple of hours. back to moaning about hayfever grin . Thanks for sympathy though.

I think mastitis when not bf is pretty rare. Hope you are ok. If you actually think you might, get to doc asap because it gets worse pretty quickly. thanks

Whenever it gets past 8pm all i can think about is going to bed. Tragic.

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 20:35:00

ness that does sound like mastitis (not that I've ever breastfed but you know). Do you have a walk-in or something near you? Friday night is such an awkward time to need medical help. Take 2 paracetamol? Hope you feel better soon. xxx

I need dulcet (are you the charity shopper) to rein me in! Just took delivery of three pairs of black maternity trousers! Might have to rethink the plan to just have one to get some wear out of all these clothes! wink

Braxton Hicks are odd, aren't they? Not sure I'm a fan!

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 20:44:40

Thanks guys smile It does seem to be rare in pregnancy, but not impossible. They're just so bloody enormous I'm not sure if it's just general tenderness, but they definitely look red in patches to me. Hmm.
Think I'll ring NHS Direct and paracetamol sounds like a good idea in the meantime!

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 20:48:15

That is totally me juni! Get thyself to the charity shop. Barnardos for the cheap stuff I find. I was in my 99p work trousers today. Haven't checked them out for maternity stuff though, can you just buy bigger sizes? Does it work like that?!

Not sure what that mastitis thing is ness but listen to these lovely people!

Pizza here too popz, left over from yesterday. Yummmm!

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 20:53:35

Haha, I was thinking to just get bigger sizes rather than maternity gear... I guess it might work for tops but not so sure on trousers... unless everything balloons at the same rate as your belly! wink

NHS direct are a bit pants Ness. Their ultimate answer to everything seems to be: go to gp/ walk in centre! Hope you get sorted though.

Braxton hicks already Juni??

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 20:56:27

Good grief, they've booked me into the OOH GPs shock Appointment at 22:40! I'll have to get out of bed!

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 20:57:32

I've got one pair of v cheap trousers in a larger size but they just balloon out between the bump & the tops of my legs where maternity trousers seem to fit properly. Also, elastic. wink Tops worked for longer. I love shopping and clothes though so this is me just trying to get my wardrobe up to scratch! I know one of my friends mainly just bought a size up.

Apparently, you can get Braxton Hicks all the way through! A part of the bump goes really hard for a minute. I don't like the sensation much, though it's not painful.

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 21:05:11

Predictably the pizza arrives and I can only manage 2 pieces of it cos I feel sicky... angry

Ooh I never knew that Juni. Learning a lot from you ladies! I know my bf had them loads towards the end of her pg, they used to wake her up in the middle of the night, making her super grouchy.... wink

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 21:06:42

I love clothes shopping too. Not done any in a while though cos it seems a bit pointless!

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 21:08:51

Wow nessa, I didn't know such appointments existed?! Glad they've fit you in so quickly though.

Great excuse for a new wardrobe juni! I hate trying stuff on though.

Forgot to say! I got a new bra from mothercare. No wire - bliss!!

JuniDD Fri 20-Jun-14 21:10:53

Wow ness! Maybe grab an hour's kip now then head down? It's good they're getting you seen to. Hot sore boobahs doesn't sound very nice at all.

Ah rpopz, a bigger top here, an elasticated skirt there (which no longer fits!) it's a slippery old slope. And then ASOS is my staple. I'm trying not to go too crazy but it's so flipping hot, I need some linen trousers in my life!

Oh yes, I had a terrible journey home from work today. I asked DH to pick me up but the traffic was so bad it took him 20 mins to get to the main road so I got the bus. Then, believe this, the bus had the HEATING on!! I was melting, and felt like I was in a sauna so I got off the bus and staggered most of the way home. With my sore feet and swollen ankles. Gonna ask work if I can finish early on a Friday as the gridlock is always so stupid.

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 21:11:31

Oooh do you feel like a proper pregnant lady now Dulce, shopping in Mothercare? wink smile

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 21:16:58

Oooh linen trousers... now there's an idea. DH has just informed me he has to work 12-8 on Weds (scan day) ARG! I've got the whole day off i'll be bouncing off the walls all that time on my own!!

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 21:17:51

I'm irrationally excited about our trip to Mothercare next Weds smile I'm gonna buy up the store!

I know - who knew they had 11pm appointments!! I had a little snooze earlier, so think I might hop in the shower and try to wake up a little bit. That way I can lie in a bit more in the morning rather than getting up to wash my hair. Unfortunately I have work tomorrow!!

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 21:18:35

Oh no! Will he be able to go to the scan Rpopz?!

DulcetMoans Fri 20-Jun-14 21:26:13

Mixture of pregnant and fraud popz, yeah! It wasn't planned but walked past and thought id look. Most expensive bra I ever bought but worth it!

RPopz Fri 20-Jun-14 21:26:57

Yeah the scan is at 8am shock haha. I was just hoping to go out for lunch or something afterwards. Have a smoochy coupley day. Looks like I'll be on my own for most of it though... boo.

wilhelmeaner Fri 20-Jun-14 22:01:40

Definitely worth getting checked out Ness. It'll probably be fine. My friend had it and said it was the worst experience of her life, so if you're not feeling like that, it's hopefully something else. That's my messed up logic anyway.

Bigger trousers don't work unless you also put weight on your bum and legs. You'll need to get some maternity ones at some point unless you're one of these lucky skinny girls with teeny bump. envy

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 22:06:27

I just got my work maternity uniform, and it's silly. The trousers are a size 18 (I'm usually a 16) and fit now, but really won't fit in a month! The shirts are size 16-18, fit at the back, then have about half a metre of spare material at the front confused Think I'm going to try and put some pleats in... I hope it works, I resent buying work clothes!

Nessalina Fri 20-Jun-14 23:43:19

Back from the OOH GPs! He didn't even look at the offending items, just prescribed me a week of 'preventative antibiotics'! hmm Which is good I suppose, but I kinda would have liked a medical opinion! Never mind. I'll take them and if it's not better in a few days I'll go to the proper GPs!

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 07:31:36

How weird Nessa, you practically have to be dying to get antibiotics when you're pg up here. Annoying he didn't look but good he took you seriously. Hope you feel better soon brew thanks

fluffymouse Sat 21-Jun-14 07:58:48

Hi I'm joining this thread after graduating from the js in a record (I think) 4 hours. Due date 28th feb smile

DulcetMoans Sat 21-Jun-14 08:19:02

Welcome fluffy, that is quick! What made you test just 4hrs later?! How are you feeling?

That is annoying nessa, why would he not look?! You aren't a doctor and we shouldn't be encouraged to self diagnose from google, surely! We'd all be pregnant all the time if the was the case!

Off to the big smoke today I meet my friend that has been TTC for nearly as long as I was. Bit worries how she will take my news... Hope it doesn't upset her.

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 08:26:57

Haha I was wondering if he was going to make you get them out Ness!! Surprised he didn't tbh. Are you feeling any better this morning?

Welcome fluffy! grin Is this your first?

Good luck Dulce I'm sure she'll be chuffed for you xx

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 09:31:51

Welcome Fluffy.

Yeah Dulcet it's like the 'not checking you're actually pregnant' thing. I still think i might be making it up. Good luck today. Hope your friend is happy for you. It might give her a bit of hope? Or best scenario, maybe she is pg too.

HungryHorace Sat 21-Jun-14 09:44:15

Wow, Fluffy...I think that even beats Kitten's 'doing a Kitten'! Congrats and welcome.

Interesting that the doctor didn't want to see your boobs, Ness! Let's hope the antibiotics work. :-) What kind of bra are you wearing? A too tight under wired bra can lead to mastitis.

Enjoy London, Dulcet. I hope the postie has been when you get back.

I need to make DD's birthday cake today. I suppose I should get moving!

fluffymouse Sat 21-Jun-14 10:12:16

Silver, the thread reminded me to test, and I got lucky!

This will be dc2smile

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 10:48:51

Weird isn't it? I've was quite disappointed not to get me tits oot.
It was 11pm and he had just had the previous appointment's child throw up all over his office, so I wasn't too surprised that he didn't want to string it out! They still feel pretty sad today and I didn't get much sleep, but once I've finished work I can get the antibiotics from the chemist!

I've been wearing non-underwired for ages - they're a wee bit tight my bras, but then they've got to be or they'd be hanging by my belly button at this rate confused I'm going to get a bigger size from Mothercare on Weds, and they were a little softer too, so that should help.

Welcome fluffy! Good to see the JSing BFPs are flowing! I wonder how long it'll be before we can tempt Red over!

Hope things go ok in London Dulcet, you never know, she might have good news for you and be thinking the same!

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 11:44:57

Bleddy Cats Protection League... sending me begging letters and pictures of cute kitties! I can't resist in my hormonal state!

JuniDD Sat 21-Jun-14 18:33:25

Aw rpopz they so tug in the heartstrings.

I'm so tired today we has to cancel dinner out and I'm lying in front of a fan trying to nap. Much respect to you guys looking after other kids, I am wiped out.

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 18:42:50

Know that feeling. Mr Rpopz wanted to go out tonight. I've walked the dog, vacuumed the shit out of the house, been shopping for birthday presents for my sister, brushed the dog, scared the crap out of myself on the antenatal threads.... and now I'm whacked!! Can't see myself moving off the sofa again today tbh. Feel bad though.

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 19:02:58

Rpopz will you bloody stop reading those threads. You're going to stress yourself out plus we're much more fun grin .

Sounds like you've been really busy, enjoy your rest. You too Juni. Kids actually don't take that much looking after. Once they sleep well, it's a lot easier than you'd think. (Before that point it's hideous)! wink

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 19:12:54

Haha I was waiting for someone to say that Wil! I'm def staying out of there now til Wednesday!!

Got some lovely new nail polishes whilst shopping so I might just get off my ass long enough to paint my toes wink

How you feeling today?

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 19:49:17

Alreet ladies smile I'm in bed feeling poorly - DH just brought me take out Nando's grin envyenvyenvy

Your day sounds epic Popz! I'm impressed!

How's is everyone else?

zenry Sat 21-Jun-14 20:29:20

Sorry ive been MIA. Just popping by to say we are exoecting a healthy perfect baby girl!!!

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 20:45:19

Hooray Zenry! grin

Hope the antibiotics kick in soon Ness x

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 20:47:12

Ah great news Zenry! grin

Minion Sat 21-Jun-14 20:50:26

Hi fluffy!
4 hours, deffo a record.
I'm in major freak out mode tokay and I have no clue why. The other night I dreamt I wiped after going for a wee and it was bright red so I kept saying ' no no no no no' and woke myself up. Then today I just feel different so when I got home I did a test (I know, I know) and the like is fainter than the last test I did (admittedly ages ago) and I've been having this strange discharge (sorry of tmi), feel all wet down there.
Please tell me this is normal... horace I need you to talk me down.
But glad to be home, I'm gonna have a long long soak in the tub. My back, feet and calves are in bits.

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 20:53:21

Fab news zenry!

Sorry you're still feeling shitty Ness.

I am fine thanks Rpopz except for my hayfever which is awful. Apparently there are some antihistamines you can take whilst pg if you get a prescription so think i'll have to go to the GP.

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 21:10:59

Ok Min, in the absence of Horace, I'll give it a shot.

Dreams just play on your thoughts (and fears) and aren't indicative of real life. So let that go.

I don't really know how hcg levels change during pg but do know that tests aren't always reliable. Try to stop POAS as it really doesn't tell you much. It wouldn't suddenly show up as negative even if the worst had happened and will just risk stressing you out.

I have tons of discharge and it has changed over the weeks. In what way do you think it's weird? What colour is it etc?

If you have no pains and no blood then you know it's likely things are ok. But i do think that if you're at all worried, don't be scared of contacting the midwife. That's why they're there. thanks

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 21:24:14

Excellent advice from Wil, hope you're ok Minion thanks It sucks when your brain runs away with you!!

Minion Sat 21-Jun-14 21:26:09

Thanks wil I need the sane in my life. It's mostly yellow ish and watery, has been since day one so that's why I'm confused about the anxiety.
I've a feeling is to do with it being a couple of days till my 16 week check up, not knowing whether baby will be heard etc.
Scanxious indeed!

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 21:26:50

Plus, tmi, I also have lots of discharge, and I occasionally go rushing to the loo because it feels like blood. That is definitely normal pregnant behaviour!

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 21:35:30

Exactly the same here Ness! I've been quite wet and "gushy" down there from day one. And in the early weeks I did many a panic stricken run to the loo expecting blood...

Hope you're ok Min. Pregnancy dreams are weird aren't they. I've had a couple of stressy dreams recently.... first one I was looking after someone's child for them (god knows who!). Said child was far too old to be wearing a nappy but was, shat himself and then proceeded to smear shit ALL OVER my house. Cue me screaming to Mr Rpopz: "I can't deal with this, I'm getting an abortion!!" confused hmm The one I had last night... I was trying to breastfeed my newborn, but it just wouldn't latch on. According to the midwife who was living in my house for some reason; it was because I'd made the mistake of feeding it banana and apple for the first few days after we brought it home (!?) so now it thought milk wasn't good enough. I woke up in a horrible panic because this baby would only feed for seconds at a time and so couldn't possibly be getting enough food from me!!

(we feed the dog chopped banana and apple as a treat.... blush hmm )

JuniDD Sat 21-Jun-14 21:38:05

The discharge is completely normal. Leucorrhea I think. It does feel horribly like bleeding sometimes.

I think HCG changes or drops off after 12 wks so poas is not the thing to do. Try not to freak out min, maybe you're tired after your hol? Always makes me panic and fear the worst.

That's me for my bed now, family shindig tomorrow so will need as much energy as I can muster.

wilhelmeaner Sat 21-Jun-14 21:53:56

Rpopz your dreams are hilarious! That really made me laugh.

Yep just googled hcg thing and it plateaus or drops off after 12 weeks.

Know how you feel Min, my scan can't come fast enough.

HungryHorace Sat 21-Jun-14 21:54:37

Minion, yes, I agree with everyone else. Please don't worry.

Here's an hcg chart for you: m.huggies.com.au/pregnancy/early-stages/symptoms/hcg-levels/chart/

It's really interesting.

Nessalina Sat 21-Jun-14 22:14:46

God yes, the dreams are getting weirder here too! I had one that really freaked me out where my MIL was looking after the baby straight after the birth, and she brought him back in wearing a dress and with his ears pierced! shock Everyone was saying, oh what a pretty girl, and I was like, no! He's a boy!!
Pretty clear where that one came from, as my MIL was hoping it would be a girl, but she's super excited about a grandson and would never do anything like that!!

RPopz Sat 21-Jun-14 22:47:57

Haha I'm sure that happened in real life you know Ness ... some woman with loads of sons cracked up a bit when she had another, so she just decided to dress it up as a girl and tell everyone it was a girl therefore it was a girl! confused ... Come to think of it that might have been a film or something....

DulcetMoans Sun 22-Jun-14 07:24:45

Oh min. I could have wrote your post! The wiping dream is exactly what I have had a couple of times on the nights before I have my breakdowns. For that reason I would guess is normal!

Oh and the wet knicker rush to the toilet is commonplace here too.

Trip gone well so far, I think! Tried to steer conversation away from pregnancy so don't rub it in and talk about her plans. She's been to see a clinic and sounds like that's a goer so really hopeful for her too soon!

JuniDD Sun 22-Jun-14 08:03:42

Glad it's going ok with your friend dulcet.

I slept for around 10 hours! So hoping I'm up for family today and my nan asking me 20 times if I've got everything for the baby. Also realised that I'm over halfway through - baby's had more time inside that it's got left. EEEK!!!