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RM OCTOBER 2014 thread - Today we are pregnant

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TinyTear Thu 30-Jan-14 11:09:26

Hi
This is a thread for people due in October with past miscarriage issues, so we don't scare the 'regular' October people and we don't annoy the RM thread with our pregnancy talk...

TinyTear MC May 2010, MC June 2010, MC November 2010, DD Jan 2012, MC October 2013 ADD 6th October

JBrd Thu 30-Jan-14 11:15:43

<<marking my place>> Hello Tiny <<waves>>

TinyTear MC May 2010, MC June 2010, MC November 2010, DD Jan 2012, MC October 2013 ADD 6th October
JBrd, DS May 2011, MC Jan 2013, MC April 2013, MC August 2013. ADD 3rd October

tannyLoo Thu 30-Jan-14 11:16:32

tannyLoo - 41, 2 DSs, age 14 and 2, TTC#3 for 15 months, MC @ 5+5 weeks in Dec 2012, MMC @ 11+4 weeks but measured 6 weeks in April 2013, MC @ 6+2 weeks in Oct 2013, MC @ 6+4 weeks in Dec 2013 (Blighted Ovum) Diagnosed in Jan 2014 with Super Fertility and taking Aspirin, Progesterone and tons of supplements. Also having acupuncture.

TIAP ADD 7th October.

Thanks Tiny

TinyTear Thu 30-Jan-14 11:20:33

I am not taking anying else other than increased dose of Thyroxine for my underactive thyroid (usually take 150mcg, upped to 175mcg)

Have my GP appointment next wednesday, so hope they will send me for some bloods and with a week at the higher dose I will know how things are and if i need to increase it.

my RMC tests from St Mary's were normal, so the plan should this not work out is to go to Professor Q in Coventry to test for NK Cells...

I was actually very surprised at the BFP as we didn't really do it much at the right dates and I had made my mind up to do further testing....

tannyLoo Thu 30-Jan-14 11:27:06

The progesterone is making me feel very pregnant. It's hard to tell where it ends and I begin!

JBrd Thu 30-Jan-14 11:33:51

Tanny I'm also on progesterone, but so far, all I get is a high throughput of knickers! It's a bit icky, definitely not a fan of pessaries, me.

I'm also on heparin and aspirin. The heparin because I had a blood clot a couple of years ago, the aspirin because it might help with the mc... Sigh. My first pregnancy was so uncomplicated and straightforward.

squizita Thu 30-Jan-14 11:49:58

TIAP! I am September but am cheekily joining. ADD 12th Sep.

3 losses: 2 natural losses at about 7 weeks (where I am now shock ). 1 MMC which turned out to be T69 and monitored for partial molar.

Diagnosed with APS and on Clexane and Aspirin.

Dare I say, feeling 'more' pregnant than in last 3 attempts, let's hope it's those meds working!

tannyLoo Thu 30-Jan-14 12:00:56

Jbrd a trick I got from someone on a thread is to stick it up the wrong-'un. Not a pleasant experience, but it stays put and no icky pants. I tried it up me fanjo but it just came straight back out! can't tell I've had 2 kids

nearlyreadytopop Thu 30-Jan-14 12:33:04

thanks for thread tiny
My edd is 2nd Sept but I'm not brave enough for other ante natal threads.

TaytoCrisp Thu 30-Jan-14 14:19:15

Thanks tiny. Marking my place.

DD 2010, mc 23 wks 2012,mc 14 wks 2013.

Now pregnant, edd 1 oct.

Hope to start heparin next week (if scan ok); then cervical stitch around 14 weeks if all goes to plan.

Happy, hopeful and anxious. At least TIAP!

SweetPeaPods Thu 30-Jan-14 16:18:11

Hello! DS2 edd 13 Oct.
3mc before ds so fingers crossed this one sticks. Last pg I avoided caffeine, higher strength folic acid and no dtd for first trimester.

TinyTear Fri 31-Jan-14 06:46:04

Welcome everyone. When I am at a laptop I might collate all ADDs in one post...

TinyTear Fri 31-Jan-14 10:07:09

Here is the list...

If we get to a second thread shall change the name to September / Octobers!

nearlyreadytopop ADD 2nd September
Squizita 3 losses: 2 natural losses at about 7 weeks (where I am now shock ). 1 MMC which turned out to be T69 and monitored for partial molar. ADD 12th Sep.
taytocrisp DD 2010, mc 23 wks 2012,mc 14 wks 2013. EDD 1st October
JBrd, DS May 2011, MC Jan 2013, MC April 2013, MC August 2013. ADD 3rd October
TinyTear MC May 2010, MC June 2010, MC November 2010, DD Jan 2012, MC October 2013 ADD 6th October
tannyLoo - 41, 2 DSs, age 14 and 2, TTC#3 for 15 months, MC @ 5+5 weeks in Dec 2012, MMC @ 11+4 weeks but measured 6 weeks in April 2013, MC @ 6+2 weeks in Oct 2013, MC @ 6+4 weeks in Dec 2013 (Blighted Ovum) Diagnosed in Jan 2014 with Super Fertility and taking Aspirin, Progesterone and tons of supplements. Also having acupuncture. ADD 7th October.
Sweetpeapods DS2 edd 13 Oct.

nearlyreadytopop Fri 31-Jan-14 11:27:04

woo, I didn't realise so many of us are preggers! That is an excellent listsmile
I didn't introduce myself properly
Ds born 2011, mc at 7 weeks, mmc at 17 weeks, mc at 7 weeks. I have been taking metformin but am now to gradually stop.

TinyTear Fri 31-Jan-14 11:51:17

interesting, why were you on metformin?

I will probably have to go on it, as last time I had Gestational Diabetes and was on metformin for the last 8/9 weeks (and overnight insulin in the last week)

SweetPeaPods Fri 31-Jan-14 12:14:20

Wow quite a list. My 3 mcs were all pre ds, so I'm hoping this one sticks but I've had a look and so many of you ladies had mc after dc so I'm now a lot less confident.
2 of mine were mmc so at least the consultant has agreed to scan me again from 6 wks as I couldn't think of anything worse than going for 12 wk scan and it's all over.
Got a feeling this pg is going to be much harder, no resting as ds is starting to crawl and walk.

nearlyreadytopop Fri 31-Jan-14 12:24:52

tiny I have pcos and some doctors think met can help with fertility issues in ladies with pcos. The doctor yesterday said the benefits are only until bfp but the previous one thought it can help prevent mc.
I know for me its been amazing in that when on it I have lost weight (low carb diet) and have a slightly long but reasonably regular cycle.

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 12:28:41

Sweetpea I think nowadays the key thing is treatment (in the old days, they were quicker to lower odds). Your story is very hopeful for me because I've had 3 with no DC so am hoping (with clexane) this one will work out better than before.

Anyone else in symptom spotting hell? Cursing the fact I was sick on Weds. My MS is just the 'feeling sick and lots of things smell foul' kind, but being sick once has me panicked because now, days with just a nauseous feeling in the early morning and about 2pm are scaring me (whereas before that was my norm) i.e. "my sickness has gone!" not "my sickness is same as normal, I had a sicker day Weds."

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 12:30:05

...by treatment I include monitoring and cans, which have been shown to improve things too!

TinyTear Fri 31-Jan-14 12:54:12

i don't care about symptoms as i had nausea with miscarriages and not much with my DD and the active smell sense in both DD and miscarriage, so i try not to think of it.

i am colder but don't know if this if pg or because it is colder outside anyway
:-)

JBrd Fri 31-Jan-14 13:38:15

I try not to symptom spot (if I can help it, easier said than done) - it'll drive me crazy. Currently using the head-in-the-sand approach and ploughing on. Within reason, obviously, I'm not going to start kick-boxing now grin

I did feel queasy yesterday morning and last night, but it's too early to be anything conclusive. I'm not even 5 weeks.

squiz Have you thought about relaxation techniques?! If you don't mind me saying so, you really are in symptom-spotting hell, you poor thing... Do you have anything to distract you? I find that immersing myself in work is really helping.

This morning, DS (2.5) came into the bathroom and then watched me insert the progesterone, followed by the heparin injection. And promptly asked me what I was doing. Uhmmm... confused

TinyTear Fri 31-Jan-14 13:46:06

why do they have to follow us to the bathroom? whyy?

my DD like to pretend sit in her potty (fully clothed we aren't potty training yet) next to me in the toilet... I have to send her away to pick up books or toys when i want to wipe or change a pad

nearlyreadytopop Fri 31-Jan-14 14:16:18

I also don't like to say it as it does reassure others but, sickness means very little to me. I had hyperemesis and a week in hospital and still had a mc.
This week has been very bad sickness wise and I have reluctantly got some cyclizine which has reduced the actual vomiting quite a bit.

SweetPeaPods Fri 31-Jan-14 14:29:19

I'm trying hard not to symptom spot too, but have felt queasy this morning and I'm exhausted but all could be down to lack of sleep as had a couple of bad nights with ds.

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 15:03:14

Jbird I'm afraid relaxation techniques don't touch the sides with me. For various reasons deep in childhood I am riddled with (slightly clinical) anxiety and I think my hormones are flaring it up really badly. In "real life" no-one ever guesses (counselling = super normal on the outside) but I think my crazy is spilling out a bit here! I am also finding work useful though, a good distraction! grin Thanks to those of you who say you ignore symptoms, I think I should really as well. Just go by scans and absence of obvious problems.

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 15:43:28

Need to read THIS every day like a mantra LOL.

nearlyreadytopop Fri 31-Jan-14 16:09:41

squiz I really should have added that all my friends who never have mc had morning sickness that comes and goes.
I think normally it is a good thing as it means pregnancy hormones are increasingly (dramatically). Some people are more sensitive to these changes than others.

I am trying very hard to resign myself to whatever happens happens. I feel I have given this pregnancy my best shot. And every nurse, doctor, midwife has said I'm not doing any good by worrying myself silly. One actually had quite an in depth discussion on stress hormones and how this are bad for pregnancy.

I think we all need to sit back with a cup of something warm, a few ginger nut biscuits (for the sickness of course) and get our dh's to rub our feetgrin

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 16:28:57

Nearly ah see that's what I get hung up on though - I assume that in order to show hormones I need it 24-7 or getting worse (rubbish: not everyone ends up on a drip thank goodness). Nonsense of course! That's why POAS varies with what you've eaten/drunk. Also and I must remember this many women in my family hardly have it... my mum was pregnant 10 weeks with twins before she realised, no shortage of hormones there. So more than likely it's a family trait. Thanks so much for talking down the insanity guys!! smile

With regards to stress damaging pregnancy, I have also (obviously) spoken in great depth with consultants, midwives, gynies etc' and read up on it. All absolutely categorically told me my anxiety would not (unless it affected eating/sleep etc') affect future pregnancies one jot. In a weird way it was very comforting indeed to hear that!

I have to get on my soap box here and say some medical professionals (often the inexperienced overworked gynie who says the wrong thing when they can't find a HB late shift at the EPU) create a vicious cycle by making women scared and ashamed of being stressed after MC. Research shows it can be like mild PTSD - nothing that the self-help printouts the NHS might give us could change ... and often it gets women in a cycle of stress-then-stress-that-stress-will-damage-baby. Lesley Regan and Jon Cohen both write about how frantic knicker-checking, depression and stress don't in themselves affect outcome: rather being supported by a Dr saying "this craziness is normal, don't worry, your chances are good" is what makes all the difference.
One thing I've found with St Mary's is they are excellent about that. The way they can be blase and blunt "No that's not a risk but we know you'll worry...", the moment Mr Rai told me "Expensive vitamins are not better than cheap ones, but I'd advise you to keep taking the expensive ones because they make you feel better and it won't hurt" was great.

nearlyreadytopop Fri 31-Jan-14 17:03:28

squiz that is so true. The only person who has really recognised the stress of a positive preg test has been myk counsellor.
I have read that extra reasurrance scans and support can improve outcomes but the mechanism by which this happens is not known. I wish someone would focus some research on this area.

I noticed on another thread someone had suggested a 'mindful pregnancy' book from amazon, Im going to check it out and will report back.

squizita Fri 31-Jan-14 18:51:55

Nearly that sounds a great read! DH is reassuring me by buying me junkfood. No objection here. smile

Millysdream Fri 31-Jan-14 21:51:40

Can I join?- EDD 6th sept.
3 miscarriages all between before 7 1/2 weeks.
Had scan on Monday and was 8 weeks 2 days, my longest time yet. No kids but one cute puppy ( bought as hubby as baby substitute- I think lol).
In a panic today. Boobs not quite as sore as other days and appetite is improving. It is going to be a long wait till my next scan(2 weeks today). I feel like I trying to push any thoughts of having a baby to the back of my mind. I really don't feel like I will have a baby. I wish I could relax a bit more. I am just floating through the days- counting down till next scan. In some sort of daze. Is this normal after 3 losses? X

JBrd Sat 01-Feb-14 08:17:25

Welcome Milly! Totally normal, I'd say. I'm currently taking one day at a time, trying not to think what will or could be because it's too harrowing. I am envious of everyone who never has had a mc and can really enjoy their pregnancy hmm

SweetPeaPods Sat 01-Feb-14 08:41:46

Milly with ds they scanned me every week from 6-12 weeks to put me at ease but it didn't really. I would still be really nervous each week.
My gp is a pain, they insist you see them before they refer you to me but they don't actually have any appts till march!!

squizita Sat 01-Feb-14 09:14:34

Hi Milly - yes completely normal. It's a worrying time but the facts say most pregnancies even after 3 are fine (which I know, as I'm in the same boat as you, you can have said to you and forget in an instant!).

TaytoCrisp Sat 01-Feb-14 09:45:20

Welcome milly. And congratulations! That's great news.

Like you in my last pregnancy I really pushed thoughts of a baby to the back of my mind... It worked ok, but I was still devastated when the pregnancy didn't work out. So this time (on advice from a friend) I am going to be a lot more positive and hopeful. That way I can just have more positive experiences (in between the anxiety!). And in the end, if a loss occurs it will be as upsetting irrespective of whether i focus on the little growing baby or not. So my current strategy (and maybe it is risky...) is to be very hopeful about this pregnancy and to remain focused on the present and the fact that i am pregnant now..at least I'm getting a by excited about it in a good way. We shall see...

Very best wishes to everyone these weeks. I have a 6 wk scan on tuesday ( so early!!!). if all goes well I will start the heparin injections (which I will moan about even though I know I shouldn't!!).

Millysdream Sat 01-Feb-14 09:59:48

Thanks so much for your replies. I am not sure it will ever get easier having a scan. I shut my eyes( for what feels like hours) until they say anything. I just don't feel pregnant at all. Every time I see the baby in the scan it doesn't feel like it's inside me. Am taking aspirin for this pregnancy but didn't get chance to have many tests done as got caught pregnant again. Just do worried that I won't cope if I miscarry again. The longer I am pregnant the more I invest in the baby.

So nice we have a thread for us as we all must have concerns and worries. Let's hope 2014 is our year xx

SpanielFace Sat 01-Feb-14 11:27:31

Hi, can I join in? Due date 7th October, slightly gobsmacked as only had unprotected sex twice - we decided to start trying this month then stopped as DH has been put as risk of redundancy. Wasn't expecting a BFP! I'm a bit anxious about money but i think we'll be ok. I have one

SpanielFace Sat 01-Feb-14 11:28:24

Sorry pressed send too soon! I have one DS who is 17 months. No symptoms yet other than very sore boobs!

squizita Sat 01-Feb-14 12:23:47

Hi Milly and Spaniel! smile

Just had a very reassuring chat with my ma, who categorically told me she has "never ever" been sick in pregnancy and she thinks it's a family trait. She mentioned feeling 'queasy' mornings and afternoons, same as me.

Having a pretty good day - slightly queasy but not 'laid up', so "today I am pregnant" but not debilitated phew.

SpanielFace Sat 01-Feb-14 13:13:50

My morning sickness didn't hit until about 8 weeks last time. My tea tasted funny this morning though, which happened last time - I went totally off any caffeinated drinks for the duration, obviously no bad thing as it's not a good thing for the baby.

So sorry for all of you who have had miscarriages. Having never had one, in my head pregnancy = baby, even though I know very well that that's not always the case. I need to try to remember it - I keep finding myself getting excited about gender, names etc already. I need to remember that I'm only 4.5 weeks and a lot could still go wrong.

SpanielFace Sat 01-Feb-14 13:42:56

Oh god I am so sorry - I just realised that this is a thread for people who have had miscarriages. I didn't read it properly. Didn't mean to be so insensitive. I really wish you all loads of luck with your pregnancies. I'll go & find the other October thread. blush

juniorcakeoff Sat 01-Feb-14 14:09:35

I'm going to be brave. Approx 6 weeks gone. On heparin and aspirin and 9 billion mcg folic acid. Two live births, one 2nd tri PProm & partial abruption following which baby didn't make it.

Love today I am pregnant. Am going to try and avoid any scanning before 9 weeks as I think there is a degree of certainty with a negative scan result at 9 weeks and no false hope?

Have various symptoms which irritatingly come and go. All my pregnancies have been different as to the degree of sickness so no use there. Have stopped testing and comparing the line colours as it was costing a fortune and no use to anybody grin

Happy to have found other people with similar issues but sorry for all your losses.

nearlyreadytopop Sat 01-Feb-14 14:10:50

squiz my mum had 5 children and remembers being sick once or twice with my sister envy

Tumtimes1 Sat 01-Feb-14 15:19:17

Hey all, glad I found you from the other thread.

So i have had x3 mc's all before 7 weeks but one discovered at 9wks as mmc. We have no children (so far).
Had tests for thrombolias and NK cells.
EDD for this pregnancy is 16th September and I am on steroids, heparin, aspirin, high dose folic acid and vits.

I have so far been for 3 scans - the last one was yesterday. Heartbeat was there and healthy but it didn't look like baby had grown much in 3 days. however this scan was done at a differ hospital and the doc said dates were measuring normal.

However have woken up is morning with no breast pain ( has slightly returned this PM) but still have nausea off and on.

I am afraid im BESIDE myself with worry, my rational head tells me I saw a healthy hb yesterday so chances are could be ok, but I am so worried. I even had the doc call me back at home and reassure me again.

But still today, I have been in tears wondering how I will cope to go through this all again, how I would muster up the strength to get pregnant again.
I spoke to my sister and she was very rational and helped a lot. I so wish it was simple for all of us. I hate weekends like this (always on the weekend)
Anyway has anyone else had sore boobs that have just disappeared over night? As I say, they have slightly come back this afternoon but not as strong as before.

squizita Sat 01-Feb-14 15:39:40

TumTimes I've had significant worry over symptoms. MS and tender boobs do vary wildly day-to-day in many women. They ABSOLUTELY do come-and-go. which terrifies me all the time I know this because lots of women and indeed docs have told me and it happens to me.
As for the HB and scan 3 days apart - the growth in 3 days at such an early stage would be tiny to see even on a transvaginal scan especially with different equipment in different hospitals. Was there a medical reason for the scans being close together? St Mary's are only scanning me every 2 weeks even as a high anxiety case, as I guess it's hard to see development otherwise and could cause more worry. The HB is the main thing.

Junior Hi! On the topic of scans - You may need to negotiate with your consultant if you don't want a scan before 9 weeks and are injecting clexane. St Mary's were keen to check that I wasn't injecting for months masking a problem (as Clexane is unpleasant and bruises/has some risks) so I was scanned at 6 weeks and will again next week at 8.4. They were realistic at 6 weeks but seeing the HB meant I was good to continue Clexane (which for me had to be started at 4 weeks).

juniorcakeoff Sat 01-Feb-14 16:08:10

Tumtimes I had a scan in the 2nd tri in one of my successful pregnancies which seemed to show no growth in 2 weeks. It was terribly scary but the sonographer was fairly relaxed about it. As squizita says the margins of error at this stage are huge. Also babies do not grow in length on a smooth upward trajectory - they grow loads one week and then spend the next week developing ears etc. It's bloody annoying for you though.

Hi squizita I did have a scan on clexane at 6 weeks with the last one, but that was because I self-referred directly at the hospital at about 4+3 so they were really on the ball. This time I have moved so obtained my drugs through GP in a different area, so though I have been referred to hosp I might have another couple of weeks grace before they turn me into a stress head??! I thought the purpose of early scan on clexane was mostly to exclude ectopic/dangers of heavy bleed etc. rather than clexane being able to mask problems?

squizita Sat 01-Feb-14 20:32:20

St Mary's weren't keen on my injecting clexane with anything like a blighted ovum - although I was given it from BFP, they wanted to see it was 'viable' ASAP. It might well be specifically their policy: they follow up on all their patients until at least week 12 I believe.

TinyTear Sat 01-Feb-14 20:51:53

I was scanned in St Marys at 6, 8 and 10 weeks last time. I wish I had that now...

Welcome to the newcomers. Can someone at a computer update the list? I am on my phone

Millysdream Sat 01-Feb-14 21:03:12

I was scanned at 7 weeks, 8w4d, next will be 10w5d then (fingers crossed all ok) will have one at 12 weeks they said.
Nervous already about next scan. Had a cry today as I am terrified. Like having scans as they reassure me but prob only for a day then am back on countdown. Least the countdown isn't too long though. At my last scan, loads of people were buying the photos and I remember thinking- I would just love to get to that stage. Trying to take small steps at a time or would go even more crazy than I am already x

Millysdream Sat 01-Feb-14 21:05:55

I meant 8w2d for second scan

squizita Sun 02-Feb-14 13:05:06

Quote of the day from DH upon hearing me retching up in the loo and grumbling "shurrup and enjoy your morning sickness, you were moaning about not having enough last week". grin

Millys I have a scan on Tuesday and am bricking it. Absolutely terrified (in spite of the sickness) nothing will have grown since 6 weeks. I have my booking in the same day - weirdly booking in morning, scan afternoon, which illogically to me means jinxing it (cannot be helped, I'm lucky to have both appointments in the same 1/2 day really given it's a massive busy hospital).

Hmm. Delightfully, my 1/4 Asian/Mediterranean blood is showing through against my 3/4 Celtic paleness. In the form of a little bit of a tache. :/ Well they do say you can look pale and drawn in the 1st trimester, and pregnancy stimulates hair growth. Guessing mini facial wax strips are safe to use? Just so the Midwife doesn't ask where my wife is at booking in LOL!!

juniorcakeoff Sun 02-Feb-14 14:37:55

Agree about booking in. Last time I refused to book in until 16 weeks. It's not as if they can do anything for your baby before 24 weeks so what is the bloody point.
I know it seems wrong but so glad you are feeling sick grin

Also agree Milly about scans. The sheer dread of them, the 30 seconds of relief, then the going home and overanalysing every comment/chart/googling average sizes for 9+2 weeks etc. I cannot take it.

Have not heard any contraindications for waxing tache - go for it I say.

CallingAllEngels Sun 02-Feb-14 15:01:45

tiny and tanny so pleased to read that you're both pg (we were on the same rmc thread when we all mc in Oct, can't remember if I've nc since then, but was still an engels ). I only got all clear a few weeks ago as my HCG took 3 months to drop and was monitored by hospital (and told not to ttc) till it got to 0. Wishing you both the best of luck.

squizita Sun 02-Feb-14 15:09:55

Junior I think they want me to book in early for the posifrickintivity of it, and tbh I don't mind a bit of paper work early - just wishing the sonographer had an earlier slot free! grin Superstitions of pregnancy after MC!

DH is being a dear and getting me salt and vinegar everything and cidona from Tesco. Seems to be all I fancy today. Read elsewhere on MN that this is usually the worst so best for me week for it (week 8-9) and I'm sure a week of extra crisps and oatcakes won't do too much harm.

squizita Sun 02-Feb-14 15:10:48

PS. For those of you less Oirish than I, Cidona is a drink of the gods. Tastes like Bulmers, 0% booze. Tesco stock it.

Tumtimes1 Sun 02-Feb-14 16:04:30

Ah how glamorous, I have just been waxing my tache coincidently! We just came from having some lunch and I glimpsed my face in the mirror and with the sun beaming down on me it looked positively beard like!

Anyway - my boobs have gone back to hurting again so feeling very 50/50 about the next scan. I plan to beg for one when I go to the doctors on Tuesday. I can't wait another two weeks wondering if I've had an mmc. Ive had both natural mc and mmc and on the latter I had symptoms way after baby had no heartbeat so feel like I'm constantly worrying. I'm trying to meditate to stay calm but my mind runs away with me.

Millysdream Sun 02-Feb-14 19:08:19

Boobs are still not very sore at all but have been sick a couple of times this weekend so that is keeping me going for now- luckily no tash as of yet lol. My next appointment is a scan at 9.30, seeing the consultant at 11.00 then meeting a midwife at 1.00. It was really nice of them to put everything on the same day. Just hoping I get past the scan. Tumtimes I still look at my scan as a 50/50 chance too- either heartbeat is still there or not. I know this isn't strictly true and the odds should be in my favor but 3 miscarriages in a row makes me in the 1% so odds haven't always worked for me. I hope you get your scan tomorrow and that everything is great.
This is the first time i have had a normal heartbeat. 1st and 3rd miscarriages never got to the heartbeat stage and my second m/s was a slow heartbeat that then stopped. I am keeping everything crossed that this is my time. I work in a school and see so many children neglected and unloved and it seems so unfair. We just want our chance to give everything we can to a child. If this one doesn't work out I am not sure what our next move will be. The thought of it terrifies me. There is only so much we can take and all last year was taken over by the miscarriages. Feel like I am more distant from friends and family as have had so much to deal with. We have also have some real family issue too so we are really in need of some good news.

I am so glad I found this forum as sometimes it seems like no one quite understands the stress involved in being pregnant after miscarriages.

Tumtimes1 Sun 02-Feb-14 19:16:58

Hey Milly is this scan tomorrow and appointments? If so i hope it goes really well! Are you on any meds for this pregnancy? Have you had tests - sorry if you have already said.
I too have distanced myself from close friends - no one except my sis knows about this pregnancy. It won't help having friends know infact it just adds pressure and expectation for us so I choose to keep to myself.
My scan is on Tuesday hopefully.xx

TinyTear Sun 02-Feb-14 20:25:56

Engels hello. Thought you were coming to join us here. Hope you get lucky very soon

I wonder if my milk is reducing already. My DD seems to want more and I wonder if it's because there is less of it...

Millysdream Sun 02-Feb-14 20:29:11

My next scan is a week on thu- ages away! Was 8w2days last Monday and all was ok. Fingers crossed for yours. Trying not to think about it.

Hope I haven't jinxed myself but have just been googling maternity wear.

Millysdream Sun 02-Feb-14 20:30:41

Only only baby aspirin as didn't get chance for many tests due to getting caught again before my miscarriage appointment. That was Monday and they wouldn't do any tests on me because I am pregnant. Just hoping this one is meant to be x

tannyLoo Sun 02-Feb-14 20:41:30

Engles it's lovely to hear from you! Sorry it's been such a long recovery from your last mc. It's shitbuckets.

I'm pretty convinced this one isn't a goer either but am trying hard to sit tight and wait.

Stay in touch, and we want to know the minute you have news...

SweetPeaPods Mon 03-Feb-14 00:10:42

I'm convinced this is going to end in mc. Don't know why.
Ds isn't helping at the minute, he used to be such a good sleeper but started really fighting it.
Anyone got a scan this week? I've got 2 weeks to wait hmm

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 00:21:37

Hi sweet. Sorry you're feeling like this too. I am also convinced I'll mc, and then I relax and start to think it might be ok and then tell myself off.
I'm 4+5 (for the last 15 minutes anyway) and usually mc at 6wks, so I've got a bit longer to wait yet. EPAC have said they'll scan me at 6wks, and until then I just have to try not to think too hard.
It will be what it is, however much we worry. sad

CallingAllEngels Mon 03-Feb-14 07:45:02

Hoping to squeeze onto a bus before the end of the year tiny but will just have to wait and see!

Good luck to everyone on the rm bus. Keeping my fingers crossed for you ladies.

TinyTear Mon 03-Feb-14 08:37:13

Thanks Engels, I do hope you catch your bus!!

Tanny and sweet, I know what you feel. I am 5w, not seeing a GP util wednesday and will try to get scanned at 8w...

Until then, TIAP and keep taking my thyroxine...

I can't say I usually mc at x weeks as they were - 10w, 6w, 8w and the last one I was scanned at 8w to find out it was measuring 5w but had no bleeding or anything...

squizita Mon 03-Feb-14 10:25:40

Scan tomorrow - anyone else? Seem to recall someone mentioning this week?

Very nervous. No problems to speak of, don't tend to have MMC, but still bricking it!!!!

TaytoCrisp Mon 03-Feb-14 11:55:00

Good luck tomorrow squiz. I hope you feel a little more relaxed afterwards.

I have a first scan tomorrow too. I don't feel worried about the results right now as both mcs have been in second trimester (i will be a fruit loop then!).

But i am anxious about being back in the hospital, as it brings back lots of very distressing experiences.. hopefully it will be ok. DH said he will come - i don't think he really needs to, but maybe i should just let him be there.

Tumtimes1 Mon 03-Feb-14 12:14:02

Hey - I am hoping to get an urgent scan tomorrow as I am having worries that I have had an MMC. Although my symptoms have all come back, but that didn't make a difference last time! My rational head is telling me to be positive but I am struggling! Roll on tomorrow!

Good luck Tayto and Squiz on your scan tomorrow!

xx

MintyChops Mon 03-Feb-14 12:20:57

Hello, just found out this morning that am 5 weeks pregnant. Quite shocked as only started trying again. My history is DS May 2009, MC May 2011 at 10 wks, MC Oct 2011 at 6 wks, DS2 Dec 2012. Am pretty scared as I am 40 now and worrying not just about another possible MC but will be or she be ok as I am so old.... Anyone else around my age?

TinyTear Mon 03-Feb-14 12:42:27

Minty I turned 40 last year... welcome to the vintage club grin

MintyChops Mon 03-Feb-14 12:50:54

Vintage so much nicer than old!! Thanks Tiny. Doing a slight head in the sand and not going near my GP for another few weeks. No symptoms other than feeling knackered but had put that down to my vintage status....

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 13:19:50

Hey Minty, I'm 41. Welcome.

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 03-Feb-14 13:22:16

I might be feeling brave enough to say hello. Hello!

V early days, I'm 4.5 weeks today. tanny if it goes well we should have the same due date, am I right? But a bfp is a bfp and today I am pregnant. It is lovely to see others in the same boat.

My story. DD 4, DS 2, mc at 5 weeks, mmc at 11 weeks (baby died at 9) erpc. Bfp 31.1 hurray!

I spoke to the Miscarriage Association today. She said that only 1 in 100 couples end up having repeat mc testing. I am seeing the gp at 4, and am now fully armed with my facts. I would like a couple of early scans for reassurance, I think.

tumtimes I'm so sorry you are worried, do hope you get some good news.

TinyTear Mon 03-Feb-14 13:34:24

Hello handsfull welcome!

TaytoCrisp Mon 03-Feb-14 13:54:51

Congratulations handful and welcome!

Best of luck tomorrow too tum.

Another vintage lady here ;-) (40 last year). People are living longer these days.. So hopefully DD, and if all goes well this little rainbow will be cared for by me for another 40 years! They should be ok after that!!

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 13:58:28

Hey Handsful nice to see you here, it's getting good and busy! My alleged due date is Oct 7th, but that's just silly. TIAP grin

katster37 Mon 03-Feb-14 14:14:47

Can I very tentatively join?? Done three tests today and all very faintly positive. Slightly in shock... This will be my third child (2 DSs, aged 4 and 2.10).

JBrd Mon 03-Feb-14 14:29:58

Another vintage person here, Minty, I'm 42 - you're not alone! Good to see that there is a good contingent of 40+ ladies here grin

Welcome newbies! Lots of hand-holding here through the first few crazy weeks, you have come to the right place.

Good luck to all of you that are having scans this week, I'm envy. I'm waiting to hear back from the mw about when I'll be having my booking in appointment...

Anyone else feels as if they are popping pills/applying medical treatments all the time?! I do progesterone twice a day, then the heparin injections, aspirin and the pg vitamins, mornings and evenings are busy times! Constantly worried that I might either forget or take a double-dose, I think I need a daily tick-off list confused

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 03-Feb-14 14:44:49

jbrd I wish I had some stuff to pop, it would feel like I'm doing something positive instead of just sitting and glumly wondering whether things will go wrong again. I hate the 3 mcs before investigations rule, I feel so powerless!

Hello Kat welcome, it is nice to see a few third timers on here. On days I struggle with my two, I wonder if nature has been trying to tell me enough is enough!

Can you tell I'm working from home today? Mega productive bursts in between getting far too excited about the bfp. I am sooooo distracted.

squizita Mon 03-Feb-14 14:55:25

JBird I am like a pincushion LOL. Don't mind though - really helps the anxiety because I just think "OK, I'm not bleeding, I feel well - wait until my 6am pills and injections and that should protect me another 24hr". FX that's what they're doing!! grin

Tumtimes1 Mon 03-Feb-14 15:01:20

Hey guys. Ugh I can't stop WORRYING. I am at work and I am so distracted and sad, wondering whether or not baby is still alive. I know I need to be more positive.

My concerns are as follows: Friday baby measured smaller than I would have hoped, by one day according to doctor and hadnt grown since the last scan (tuesday) as mentioned. Boobs stopped hurting on Saturday morning (but came back in afternoon/evening). Could do no.2's during the non-boob hurting phase with ease, but have since gone back to constipated. Whats that all about? Have had some tummy cramps but not sure if these are just stretching pains etc. Ugh. I am beyond EFFED off with all this.

The other issue is that when I go to the GP tomorrow to BEG for a referral to EPU i am probably going to have to CRY to be heard and go through all sorts of anxiety to ensure she takes me seriously. My sister who lives in Bournemouth can just call EPU directly and they let you refer yourself.

Any tips on PMA at all? I am SO trying, I don't mean to be so doom and gloom and I know I am probably sounding irrational but I can't keep loading this on my husband. I think he is getting a bit frustrated with me to be honest.

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 15:01:27

Jbrd shake me and I rattle! Actually, don't. I'm feeling like a sick dog and that Waggon Wheel won't taste so good 2nd time round!

Unfortunately I can't enjoy symptom spotting as I think most of them are caused by the progesterone. They might be starting to increase, so hopefully there's some of my hormones kicking in.

Handsful apart from progesterone and aspirin, everything else is self proscribed, but I know what you mean. I have clexane envy! blush

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 15:17:09

Hey tum cross post.

So sorry you're going through all this. It is such a worrying time.

It's a bummer you can't self refer to your EPU, and I hope your gp is sympathetic.

My epac nurse was happy to talk over the phone, if that's an option, and she was good at putting some of my anxiety into proportion. She is right. There is nothing we can do once we're pg apart from wait and be kind to ourselves. I was feeling like it was all over before it even got going, but I don't know this.

Just know we're here for you, we won't judge or think you're bonkers cos we all know how you feel. Big hugs. x

Tumtimes1 Mon 03-Feb-14 15:27:03

Thanks so much tanny I am so glad I have you guys to speak to. Hopefully I can help advise as well if you guys need me. I will keep you posted.
Has anyone got any tips on ensure I can definitely get a scan tomorrow?

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 15:29:38

tum I just had a thought.

Today I was talking to a colleague who is experiencing a ton of mixed emotions at the moment, and she finds herself thinking "I feel really low about this, I SHOULD feel positive because loads of good things are happening" or the opposite, "I feel great and life is good, but I SHOULD feel rubbish because this shit thing has happened to me".

We talked about it and about how negative it is to judge our own feelings like this, which we were both doing, and how being mindful and accepting the emotions as they are can take some of the sting away.

We work for a mental health and addiction agency, and use mindfulness a lot to encourage people to take time to listen to how they feel.

Here is a link to some self guided free mindfulness meditations, not ones we use at work, but just some I found through Google. I don't know if they are any use, but I think some deep breathing and some space to be calm might help us all. Mindfulness Meditations

Tumtimes1 Mon 03-Feb-14 15:54:55

Thanks Tanny this is really helpful. I have always been open to this kind of thing. I did some CBT back in 2008 as I got anxiety (randomly and out of the blue). So I am quite conscious of my worries and irrational thoughts and keeping them in check but sometimes (well in pregnancy) they seem to take over a little bit. I have been using meditation to get to sleep at night which helps and has meant I am getting proper sleep.
I will check out this link and thank you so much for offering up this help, I really appreciate it. x

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 03-Feb-14 17:01:10

I just went to log bfp at doctors. I think some of the trauma of the mmc, erpc with evil anaesthetist ("are you here for your abortion?"), infection and long stay in a shoddy hospital got to me. I was shaking and couldn't stop crying for about 5 minutes. Poor guy, he was really nice and reassuring. The midwife will get me an early scan, because blimey, if anyone needs reassuring it's the madwoman blubbering at her gp. And now DH won't answer phone, so I'm telling you guys.

We must all wash our salads carefully, apparently.

SweetPeaPods Mon 03-Feb-14 17:14:02

Handsfull I'm just back from drs to collect my folic acid prescription as I need higher dose and self referred to mw. The dr can't see me for wks so I requested to fill in the form by myself. This was ok until it asked for all my pregnancy history then I was a mess too, standing at the reception desk like an idiot!

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 03-Feb-14 17:40:23

Sweetpea that's tough you had to do it yourself. There's no way you should have had to do it at the reception desk! I started sobbing the minute I saw the GP in the corridor, big girl's blouse. I felt quite sorry for him, poor chap! Off to retrieve the dcs now, work is done, so let the chaos commence...

Millysdream Mon 03-Feb-14 18:39:22

Having a panic today- dont feel pregnant at all!
My boobs are just heavy and only felt a bit sick before having tea as later staff meeting than normal. Have had hardly any symptoms this pregnancy but now less than ever ( should be 9w 2d today). Put weight on with the 3 miscarriages last year anyway as eat when stressed so no noticeable weight change (have a bit of a belly anyway). Just not sure how I can cope till a week on thu.
Woke in the night with period type cramps. So scared of a missed miscarriage. My heads a mess sad

Tumtimes1 Mon 03-Feb-14 19:38:59

Hey handsful that sounds horrendous at your last Erpc. I had the same behaviour, very little sympathy and was the only one that day not having a chosen abortion and was put into the same category. Was a very difficult day.
Isn't it incredible what wrecks this sends us into on what should be a very happy and exciting time. Sounds like your gp was nice and understanding which is the main thing. I find sympathy and a caring attitude really really goes a long way with me. I love the lady at EPU she's so nice to me (when I can get an appointment).
Hey milly just wanted to say hi, I really can understand what you're going through today as I too am v worried. Sending you support.
Hi to everyone else! X

SweetPeaPods Mon 03-Feb-14 20:41:31

MillyI know it's easy to say but please please don't stress.
Saying that I poas again this evening!
With each mmc I put on weight too. In the space of a year I was pregnant 3 times. So if this goes full term, after I hope to lose the weight from 5 pregnancies!

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 03-Feb-14 20:53:35

Oh milly you poor love, in your shoes I'd be having a proper full on wobble. Can't say anything useful, but have a hug.

tum how dare they? It makes me so angry that they didn't help, they added to my grief. I get the shakes just thinking of it.

Yes to mmc weight gain, not helped by post mmc comfort eating at Christmas. Still, I am going to grow big with blessings and treasure every second I'm carrying this little bean when I'm not sobbing all over the doctor that is

SweetPeaPods Mon 03-Feb-14 21:34:21

Tum opposite here, the ladies at epu have always been very unsympathetic with me. As if they couldn't care less. when I had my second erpc I couldn't have told you who was in for what as I was in a separate room rather than on the ward. However the first time I was on a ward and we heard the dr give one couple bad news, the poor girl crying etc. they knew it was a boy so most probably after 20wks. All that separated us was a curtain. We also heard a dr on the phone going into loads of patient detail. It was horrible.

JBrd Mon 03-Feb-14 22:50:52

I am shock at some of your experiences with doctors/EPUs - that is truly appalling. It's where you need support the most, you are so vulnerable.
sweet YY to the useless curtains in hospital - I don't get why they bother using them! They might as well get everyone to sit around in a circle and share their stories. I too have overheard some incredibly personal and harrowing stories. At one appointment, DH and I started a completely random conversation, just so that we wouldn't have to listen to the story of the lady on the other side of the curtain - I felt so sorry for her, this is now how it should be.

Overall, I think I have been very lucky, apart from one stupid sonographer who gave me the 'Well, you have a DS, so at least you know it can work' line. Unfortunately, I was in no condition for a snappy reply angry

Hope you're feeling better Milly and tum This limbo is just awful, we all know how you are feeling. One day at a time, small small steps.

tanny What are your progesterone symptoms? I don't seem to have any so far! I read that it can cause diarrhea, but so far, I'm more constipated than anything (sorry for tmi). But that might also have to do with the fact that I'm not nearly exercising enough as I used to at the moment. But that's because I have this flipping toothache that is driving me mental. On top of everything else.

tannyLoo Mon 03-Feb-14 23:06:10

I'm really shock too about the way you've all been treated. I've had some dickish remarks and the gynae who wanted to whip out a fallopian tube without knowing if I had an ectopic or BO...

Jbrd my progesterone symptoms are like pg ones. Nausea, overwhelming tiredness, sore boobs, wind and bloating. I think using them up my bum has stopped any constipation!

Like I say, it's hard to know where they end and I begin!

squizita Tue 04-Feb-14 08:56:04

Tanny I've also had a junior doc who couldn't wait to cut me open and have a rummage ... luckily the nurse rang the gynie consultant on the golfcourse who had stern words indeed with him. What I heard through the curtain that day was someone getting a telling off for not being able to diagnose properly!

tannyLoo Tue 04-Feb-14 11:12:38

Squiz, that's a conversation I would have liked to hear though the curtain!

I POAS this morning, and the line is much more definite and properly there, so that, combined with nearly chundering this morning, is making me feel a bit more relaxed smile

Still another week til I can go to EPAC for a scan, so plenty of time to get the fear between now and then.

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 11:26:02

Yay tanny! How often are you testing? I have only done the one, wondering if it would be nice to do another. I am symptomless really, apart from throbbing legs, which I always get!

TinyTear Tue 04-Feb-14 11:51:06

I only did one single test.... don't think i will do another

SweetPeaPods Tue 04-Feb-14 11:52:48

Only 1 test! I wish I could!!
I've lost count, must be 5 or 6!

TaytoCrisp Tue 04-Feb-14 13:01:00

Waiting in car park to head in for scan. Sudden feel quiet emotional and shakey. Need to get a grip here.. Right.. Water...,

TinyTear Tue 04-Feb-14 13:07:04

Good luck Tayto!

nearlyreadytopop Tue 04-Feb-14 13:29:09

good luck taytosmile

MintyChops Tue 04-Feb-14 14:37:02

Good luck Tayto!

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 14:55:27

tayto I've been thinking of you. Hope it was a lovely experience. I will be a jibbering wreck when it is my turn.

TaytoCrisp Tue 04-Feb-14 15:18:24

Thank you so much ladies.

I'm afraid it was really not what i had hopef for at all :-(.

The sonographer identified the gestational sac and yoke sac but no heartbeat..:-(. BUT she did say it is really still very early, and if my cycle was delayed at all, it just might be too small to see yet.

My consultant was so nice and didn't focus on this, saying that really it was still to early to see for sure. He gave me the heparin so I will start them tomorrow anyway.

I now have a scan booked for 2 weeks time.. If I don't mc before then... God, it just feels like such a mountain ahead right now.. I really wasn't expecting this limbo already...

Anyway, still hopeful and anxious.. But unfortunately not as happy as i was before today's scan.

I hope everyone else with scans around now had a more positive experience.

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 15:28:02

Oh tayto you poor sausage, how terrifying. I do hope they are right about it just being too early. Have a hug.

Tumtimes1 Tue 04-Feb-14 15:33:18

tayto this was a six week scan wasn't it, so yes still really early and a good chance of being ok. Sending you much support and also positive vibes. I know this next two weeks will be hard - would they see you at 7weeks at all? Save the wait being two weeks?

Tumtimes1 Tue 04-Feb-14 15:35:51

So I went to the doctors today and bawled my eyes out and have now been signed off work for a week. The doctor said I must try to relax and work is not helping.

She sent me for a scan and after a 4 hour wait (!) I was seen. The baby is alive which I couldn't believe and is measuring correctly for it's age. 8 weeks. I have NeVeR got past 6.5 weeks so I am feeling very shocked. So it seems it makes no difference if symptoms come and go. Lesson learned.

TinyTear Tue 04-Feb-14 15:36:20

Can you ask them to see you next week?
6w is quite early so the heartbeat may come in the next couple of days

nearlyreadytopop Tue 04-Feb-14 15:39:52

oh tayto I really hope its just too early. With ds I was told I had a blighted ovum, 2 weeks later there was a hb and now a fab 2 yr old. Don't give up hope just yet.

Hunnyangel80 Tue 04-Feb-14 15:42:20

Tayto I had a scan at 6 wks and they told me I wasn't pregnant went back 2 wks later and there was a lil heart beating away. Good luck ladies I hope u all go on to have beautiful babies sprinkling baby dust xx

TaytoCrisp Tue 04-Feb-14 15:51:47

Thank you so much ladies. It was a very early scan - 5+6. And as I was using the opk I know the cycle was longer than usual, so im going to focus on this and the positive thoughts and stories above. Thank you.

Many congrats tun, that's great and nice to have a good scan story today too ;-). And a great sign to be further on than ever before.

Heading back into work now for an hr.. Thanks again for the lovely supportive messages which make a big difference.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

tannyLoo Tue 04-Feb-14 16:21:07

tayto, stay positive if you can. I think a yolk sac is good, when I had a BO there wasn't one.

tum, I'm really pleased you got a scan and signed off for a week. I hope both these help you to stay strong.

squizita Tue 04-Feb-14 16:29:45

Tayto sorry to hear it was an anxious scan. As others have said, it is early enough that no HB is normal and in 2 weeks you may well see one! Fx!

Tum lesson learned for me too. 8 weeks, normal HB, seen on the external scan. Midwife referred me to specialist psychologist for pregnancy anxiety, but said given my history it was to be expected.

SweetPeaPods Tue 04-Feb-14 16:36:44

Sorry it wasn't as you had hoped Tayto. But 6wks is early. I think 2 weeks wait is normal, when I've been to epac with first 2 mcs they scanned me and saw me 6 weeks later as they are checking for reasonable growth.
However in the recurrent miscarriage clinic they scanned me every week!
I should be 6w2d when they see me so not sure what we will see -/fingers hands toes everything crossed--

SweetPeaPods Tue 04-Feb-14 16:37:10

Great news Tum, sounding very positive.

TinyTear Tue 04-Feb-14 17:40:32

Tum. Just saw your post. Yay for an 8w one. Stats are much better now...

Tumtimes1 Tue 04-Feb-14 18:03:55

Fab news squiz! Tell me more of this psychologist! I would be interested in that side of things as I ally struggle at times with this stress wise.

TaytoCrisp Tue 04-Feb-14 18:50:54

squiz really good news re: ur scan!

If you don't mind, please do share any new anxiety mgmt tips from the psychologist. You have a very interested audience here!

Millysdream Tue 04-Feb-14 18:58:10

Tum seems like we are in a similar position. My last scan was just over 8 weeks at last scan and never got to this before. Congrats. Try to hold on to this good news as long as you can xxxxx

Tayto please keep the hope. A scan in a week would be better if you can push for it but depends on your state of mind. Do whatever you need to do to get through to next scan then you can get your answers. Fingers crossed all will be ok and you can stop worrying for a while at least.

fedupofrainydays Tue 04-Feb-14 19:18:24

Tentatively sticking foot in the door... Hello.

Fedupofrainydays, 1 ds, ttc #2 for 15 months, 1 mmc at 12 weeks in feb 2013, and 1 mc at 5.5 wks in dec 13

Currently going mental and physically shaking when I go to the loo petrified of seeing blood. Feel exhausted after the emotions of just one day knowing I'm pregnant, any tips for surviving?

fedupofrainydays Tue 04-Feb-14 19:20:08

Sorry forgot EDD 14 oct (ds birthday - which makes it more scary as don't want to doom that date. First mc EDD was DH's birthday sad

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 19:27:36

Hey fedup well done for venturing over. I have no tips for staying calm, though a big pack of chocolate buttons has helped, oops. I am just trying to treasure each day that I'm pregnant with this little one. Also keeping crazy busy might help!

squiz and tum that is lovely news and so encouraging.

tannyLoo Tue 04-Feb-14 22:04:04

Hey Fedup, pleased to see you here.

If you're anything like me, then you probably feel like you'll be back on the ttc board in a few days! It's just pants, this early bit, and we are all gibbering wrecks. Sorry, that's not very helpful!

There is talk of psychologists, mindfulness and counselling here at the moment, which might help.

Tiny has a post it at work that says "TIAP" - today I am pregnant - I've stolen her idea and it has helped me...

We're all here for hand holding.

fedupofrainydays Tue 04-Feb-14 22:17:38

Thanks ladies... Oddly it's comforting that we are all in the same situ and you haven't got someone 38 weeks bleating at you that it will all be fine!

At this point with my last bfp I had spotting so an holding on to fact that I've no blood yet.
Tanny - did you stop testing / did lines get darker? As I Recall you were worried.. Same happened to me this morn. But I'm having pricking in my boobs and lots of milky cm (which makes me run to loo stressing!) which are both good signs.
Love the post it idea - what do you say if someone asks?! Let's think of another acronym it can be...

Well I'm busy all right... And prob a few mins go by without thinking about my pants! I've got a lot on and actually this month was very inconvenient for a bfp which I think it's why I have it grin

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 22:29:40

The Important Activity Proceedure? Think Important And Proceed?
Throw Igloos And Party? Theatrical Infants Aren't Pleasant?

I am worrying about no spotting fedup, we are the opposite! If we can find something to worry about, we sure will. Tanny gibbering wreck neatly sums me up at the moment. I'm trying to lose myself in my little choir, do you think I can get a bunch of 5-11 years olds to do a convincing 'Gimme Some Lovin'? I'm going to try, just for a laugh.

Hurray for inconvenient bfps!

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 04-Feb-14 22:30:22

The Infinitely Amazing Pants. I'll go to bed now.

tannyLoo Tue 04-Feb-14 23:11:05

Hmm I'll have to try and think some up. In my work we have acronyms for everything, no one will bat an eye!

Fedup yes I had 4 days of weak tests without much sign of change, so by this time last week I was convinced it was going to be a chemical pregnancy. I felt so low.

After talking to an EPAC nurse about it all I started trying to rationalise it. I really can't control my body or the pinhead ball of cells, all I can do is support it as best I can for these first few weeks. They'll see me for a scan anytime after 6 weeks, and I know the support from them is there.

I made myself get up and go to the loo in the morning without turning the lights on so I wasn't tempted to poas, but I did test again this morning and got a nice clear line.

In reality, so many things can still go wrong, but I can cross CP off the list. confused

JBrd Wed 05-Feb-14 09:45:18

Wow, look at you all chatting away! I don't check for one afternoon and evening and promptly have to wade through pages and pages of posts grin

tayto Like the others said - hang in there! I am amazed they agreed to scan you this early, to be honest, they should know that at this stage, it is very rare to see anything! Not all is lost, so much is happening in terms of growth at this stage. I once had a scan where they also could just see the sac and nothing else, and only a week later, there was a heartbeat.
And if I may give some advice - stop testing!

squiz Fab news, this is excellent! I was thinking of you yesterday and had everything crossed. I really hope that you can manage to relax a bit now.
Also great news for you tum! Get some rest now, make most of being signed off.

5+3 today, and I have gone in auto-pilot mode, putting my head in the sand and trying to ignore that I'm pg. This outward calm is interspersed with moments of panic when I'm convinced that I am heading for another mc sad
DH asked me yesterday 'Do you feel pg yet?' and no, I don't confused

squizita Wed 05-Feb-14 10:10:07

Jbird Thanks. Don't wobble too much about not feeling pg at 5+3 ... I was nothing but slightly swollen boobies then. Didn't feel it at all. Got all worried. Now I'm queazy as anything and have a brain like mush. Also DH pointed out I'm looking a bit 'filled out' compared to usual possibly the epic wind.

SweetPeaPods Wed 05-Feb-14 10:36:39

I'm at a day spa today for mil's bday with both sil. Trying to hide the fact I feel very queasy, look very bloated on top of mummy tummy from ds and trying to quietly ask for decaf coffee is not easy. DH doesn't want to tell them for a few weeks.
They will be very happy but surprised at small age gap so hoping they don't suspect today. They might guess when I don't have bubbly with lunch or don't go in hot tub mind.

JBrd Wed 05-Feb-14 10:42:22

Sweet You need some stealth and distraction tactics! How about telling them that you have mild food poisoning? Then go into great detail about diarrhoea and vomiting, to put them off asking any further questions grin. That will also then help to explain why you don't want to drink alcohol (although a small glass of bubbly won't hurt!) or do some of the treatments. No one will question you not going in the hot tub if you have an upset tummy.

SweetPeaPods Wed 05-Feb-14 10:59:11

That's a good idea. Dodgy tummy bug from ds possibly. Hence feeling queasy and bloating, and no hot tub! Don't think I could stomach the bubbly even if I wanted it!!

TinyTear Wed 05-Feb-14 11:11:23

TIAP Today I Am Pregnant

Can also mean "today I am pantchecking"
[Grin]

Just in the waiting room at my GP to get in the system.
Took a second test today and the lines came up really quick and strongly...

Feeling positive

And hello everyone. Hope the tube strike isn't messing up your plans if you are in London.
I work from home on Wednesday so I'm ok but tomorrow will need to brave it all...

squizita Wed 05-Feb-14 11:42:08

Paranoia of the day: people saying "I'm 9 weeks and can't do any of my clothes up I need maternity clothes" (!!!) I am 8+3 and still in my regular clothes. My tummy looks a bit bloated but am deffo still in normal clothes territory. I don't even think I've put on much weight - at the hospital my weight was similar to normal post xmas.

TinyTear Wed 05-Feb-14 11:44:57

Just been to the GP. Got the flu jab straight away. Now on my way to get blood tests. A random glucose one and a thyroid function one. My pulse was a bit high so tomorrow need to get it checked again.
And he was lovely and actually called the epu for me and booked me a scan at 7+2 on the 17th.
Feeling good!

nearlyreadytopop Wed 05-Feb-14 14:30:45

10 weeks for me and I don't notice a difference in terms of clothes. I think at this stage the uterus is still tucked down in the pelvis so its perfectly normal not to notice. I was however eyeing up maternity jeans as those big over bump bands look so warm and comfy.

bakingtins Wed 05-Feb-14 14:36:40

Ladies - hello! Can I appeal to those of you who regularly posted on the RMC thread to keep us updated with how you are doing? I don't want to stalk you all here but I miss you! I can understand you don't want that whole thread to be about pregnancy after RMC when there are people still going through testing, but there's a happy medium somewhere.

TinyTear Wed 05-Feb-14 14:40:33

I think i needed new jeans at about 10/11 weeks last time, but i didn't look pregnant until at least 17 or 18 weeks

TinyTear Wed 05-Feb-14 14:41:08

Awww baking! We shall pop round...

JBrd Wed 05-Feb-14 16:01:47

Squiz Remember, every pregnancy is different! Honestly, I think it's perfectly normal not to show before at least 12 weeks, esp if it's your first! And be glad if you are not putting on much weight! It will come, don't worry grin

I put on over 3 st with DS, and it was such a pain to loose it again, took ages. Because for me, it didn't 'just drop off' after giving birth, like for some lucky people (not that I'm jealous or anything). But eating was the only thing that kept the sickness at bay in the 1st trimester, and then I just carried on... Not good. I'm really hoping to keep the weight gain at bay this time!

SweetPeaPods Wed 05-Feb-14 17:41:27

JB I'm exactly the same with weight gain. Hoping running around after ds I won't gain as much!

Can't remember when I started wearing my mat jeans last time but it definitely wasn't before 12 weeks, prob around 16 weeks.

fedupofrainydays Wed 05-Feb-14 19:39:11

I can remember not being able to wear pencil skirts and tights quite early on but I wasn't in mat clothes for a while with ds. Mainly cos I didn't tell work will I was 15 weeks so just wore loser clothes. I have a short body so it sticks out quite quick.

I put on a stone in first trimester but was literally cos I are none stop as was only thing that didn't make me feel sick! In total I was 3.5 stone! One stone was easily lost the other 2.5 I had to work at...

My paranoia today has been doing a poo. Sounds crazy maybe. But last mc I started spotting when I did a number two. I managed to go which was a bit painful as not gone for a few days out of fear. Fortunately it also pushed just clear / milky cm out as well. Thank god. Sorry for the tmi about my bowels but been so scared!

squizita Wed 05-Feb-14 20:11:19

Fedup I had that too- the fear of poo. Thankfully some dry fruit and veg-rich dinners stopped the straining.

Handsfullandlovingit Wed 05-Feb-14 20:57:31

Weight - gained a stone after the last one we lost just before the 12 week scan. Carbohydrates cure my morning sickness. It's not gone, whereas with the other two I have breastfeed the weight off without too much effort. I will have my work cut out after this pg, starting at a disadvantage!

fedup glad to hear your bowels are in order. Any trip to the loo is terrifying at the moment.

My efforts to be Mary Poppins failed mahoosively this evening. Kids were revolting. Not entirely sure I deserve another baby.

tannyLoo Wed 05-Feb-14 22:34:55

Fuck me! Who donated their huge knockers? They clear the bath water by a full couple of inches!

Thank you progesterone pessary inventor x

tannyLoo Wed 05-Feb-14 22:36:32

Unfortunately it's viewing only for DH as I think he'd get an involuntary slap if he touched them...

TaytoCrisp Wed 05-Feb-14 22:42:14

The first time I was pregnant I didn't need mat wear until about week 22! The second time it was about wk 16; the third time about wk 12. This time... I'm not yet sure what will happen.. But if I get past wk 8 I think I will be looking for roomy clothes soon after!

I get a strange restless legs/heavy legs feeling when I'm pre mestrual; also got it prior to last mc. And feel like that tonight. Perhaps a bit paranoid but I think I better have a rest.

Glad to hear of the positive experiences today. Keep well ladies!

TinyTear Thu 06-Feb-14 08:47:57

oh my goodness, I am on an October 14 FB group as well (from the babycentre) and there are people there who aren't even pregnant?????

They should ovulate about 'now' and so it means they will be due at the end of October so in the group...

The naivety!!! the optimism!!
The innocence...

Madness!!

squizita Thu 06-Feb-14 08:56:16

Tiny blimy! I wince at the POAS advert where she's telling her mate (DH always points out is could be a close relative) 2 weeks in before she's due on!
Joining a group before you are actually pregnant. Just wow.

TinyTear Thu 06-Feb-14 09:02:38

I know... amazing... So far my husband, doctor and one of my best friends are the only people who know in real life... Will tell work tomorrow or next week but only because if I mc again I will probably be off for 2 weeks and need my boss to be aware this will be a possibility

Tumtimes1 Thu 06-Feb-14 10:18:49

Tiny thats exacty the only reason I told my boss too. Either way (Whatever the outcome) they would find out so I thought I might as well let them know. It also means that whist I am signed off I don't feel guilty or have "the fear".

My next scan is 14th Feb. Why do they have scans on a friday? Why? Why? Stupid. I will never understand it... Fingers crossed all is ok. If its ok at 9.5 weeks I think I may tell my best mate. But we shall see. So far only my ma and pa and Sis know.

How's everyone doing today?

mum2kiss Thu 06-Feb-14 10:19:22

Hey ladies smile

I havent read back but say tiny's post on another thread which made me realise I belong here!!

I had a mc 15 years ago and had my.first dc 5 years ago. I have an edd of 11th october this time around and I am currently on permanent crotch watch!! Terrified about dtd, exercise, and anything else that requires a little exertion!

I mc'd at 15 weeks so I wont even begin to relax until we pass that marker!!

MrsDinoRawr Thu 06-Feb-14 10:28:46

Hi everyone. I am here thanks to TinyTear who pointed me in the right direction. I put my post in the wrong thread - really hope I haven't scared everybody in the Oct thread sad

I need to have a read through the posts on here - but I saw the OP and it sounds like a good idea for a thread.

I used opks all month as my cycles have been really messed up since my miscarriage in October and I didn't know if I was even ovulating. I used to be quite regular 29/30 day cycles. But have had 36 and 43 day cycles since.

This month seemed to be back to normal. Got positive opk on CD17. By 9dpo I was starting to see the line getting darker again which was either another surge or possible pregnant... By 11dpo the lines on sainsburys hpt came up within the time but were faint (With my last pregnancy they came up after 10 mins but had to take the tests apart to see them). I did a clearblue digital on that evening - Pregnant 1-2 weeks! Have done loads of tests (poas addict?) and they are getting darker every day.

On Tuesday at 1am I wiped and there was red blood (It was my 30th birthday - great present!). I went to work but started crying and they sent me home. By midday the blood started to turn brown with occasional red blood. It has not been enough to fill a pad at all and is really only when I wipe. I am still spotting today - but there is hardly anything there and it is brown not red (hoping this is good). I am 5 weeks today. Last time I was about the same time but the bleeding was as heavy as a period and red with some clotting. I have had no pain or cramps. I have been sick every day for the last week. I don't know what to think. I have booked a doctors appointment for 9.50 but I know from last time that they wont do anything until I get to 6 weeks. The other thing that is worrying me is that the school I teach in has had a few cases of slapped cheek (including a child in my class) which can cause miscarriage.

I am trying to stay positive and telling myself that spotting can be common. Clearblue digital went up to 2-3 weeks yesterday (when I had my miscarriage it didnt get past 1-2 weeks and I miscarried at 6 weeks).

----
Update - just been to the doctors. He said nothing they will do until 6 weeks so he has booked me an appointment for next week - said if I am still bleeding it will be to book a scan but if I am not it will be to book an appointment with the midwives. So here starts the long wait until Friday.

Hope everyone is doing ok - I am going to sit and have a read through the thread now. (Sorry for my VERY long first post - will make them shorter in the future)
x

TinyTear Thu 06-Feb-14 10:45:00

Good luck Dino
I hope it was just implantation or non-bad bleeding... i know someone who has a 3 months old girl who lost a twin at 7 weeks, but one of them was fine in there and things worked out really well...

Hello mum2kiss, i like 'crotch watch'... know the feeling... every single drip in CM makes you run to the loo to check...

One day need to update the member list and ADDs and all... unless someone is bored and can do it
grin
I am allegedly working from home because of the strike...

no, not allegedly, I am doing some work
smile

squizita Thu 06-Feb-14 10:52:43

Dino if it is spotting and has turned to brown and your hcg is rising fx it's just a bleed.

Mum2kiss Hi! Yeah crotch watch... tell me about it. grin

I am getting sick of crisps, bread, ryvita and cheese. Sadly my body feels sick if I eat anything else. Any ideas for food variety? I'm eating plenty and keeping most of it down, just like someone off freaky eaters. Fingers crossed I'm a typical 'worst ms at 6-8 weeks' lady blush but if I am I'll be frantic week 10 when I can eat what I like lol.

TinyTear Thu 06-Feb-14 10:57:01

babybels kept me going in my last pregnancy... and ginger biscuits

MrsDinoRawr Thu 06-Feb-14 11:05:48

squizita - am keeping my fingers crossed. I told deputy and head at school on Tues that I was bleeding and they sent me home and told me to rest. As the bleeding has almost stopped I will go back to work tomorrow. Need to think 'Today I am pregnant' and at home I am just sat thinking I am home because I might be having a mc.

I am feeling the same about food - all I want is dry savory stuff. Bread, crisps. Strangely I am ok with milk! If I have chocolate I am sick. Shame as it was my 30th on Tuesday and there is quite a lot of my moms famous chocolate fudge cake and loads of her ice cream cake left.

I am worried that I am not eating anything much that would be nutritional for the baby.

squizita Thu 06-Feb-14 11:10:13

Dino I am eating limited variety too, but I think that is normal for the first trimester. Bean is tiny so doesn't need huge amounts of food and provided you're taking folic acid docs seem unconcerned.

Tiny babybels are currently a whole food group of their own as far as I'm concerned.

tannyLoo Thu 06-Feb-14 11:18:27

Oh Dino poor you! I always have my MCs around 5-6 weeks, closer to 6, and it's horrible because no one seems to want to take concerns seriously. I think the reality is that they can't see anything at this stage and can't do anything, but it feels all wrong. I've heard people say that bleeding without cramping is better than with, so I hope it calms down and you get some good news next week.

Welcome Mum2kiss too. It's nice to have some more new bods to be paranoid excited with!

Squiz I totally agree with Tiny on the Babybel front. I have some in work and some at home. Those and mini sausages blush. I'm mostly eating them and Dr Karg Emmental and Pumpkin Seed crackers, but if this pg carries on, I will have to change, as when MS kicked in with my other successful pgs, I couldn't do "bits" in anything and was reduced to Ritz crackers and satsumas!

I'm in a completely head-fuck zone at the moment. Boobs are still big (the grew even bigger overnight) which must be my hormones rather than the progesterone, and the smell of coffee seems to have gone from "mmm, heady aroma of dark roasted loveliness" to "yuk, burnt soil - why would I ever?", but I am having loads of cramps, which have always preceded MC before.

squizita Thu 06-Feb-14 11:52:53

FX Tanny if it's any comfort I had all the same twinges and cramps as usual before loss a couple of weeks ago, but nothing came of it, as scan on Weds showed. Must have just been bits moving around.

TaytoCrisp Thu 06-Feb-14 12:50:08

Hi Dino - what a tough few days for you. Fingers crossed that that is the end of the bleeding, and the blue lines stay put..

Hi MumtoKiss. I will be with you are you aim to pass the 15 wk mark.. one week/day at a time. Welcome!

Less paranoia here today after a good sleep last night.. And the heparin injections are not so bad as i had remembered... Still on countdown til 8 week "viability scan" in 12 days time.

This working from home is great!I can't logon when at work in my tiny shared office!

SweetPeaPods Thu 06-Feb-14 13:32:50

I are loads of mini babybels when pg with ds. Only thing I have gone off so far is my morning cup of tea. After half a cyclizine tablet I'm fine.
Feeling a bit odd today, not sure why. I'm actually really terrified of having another mc.

mum2kiss Thu 06-Feb-14 14:03:56

Called to make my booking in appointment this morning. Its not until 12th march!! I will be 9+5 by then! Seems a lifetime away!

tannyLoo Thu 06-Feb-14 16:25:05

Could crack out the maternity tights but that would only jinx things to cover my windy belly. Totally look 20 weeks. If only!

SweetPeaPods Thu 06-Feb-14 18:28:39

Mum2kiss my mw appt is at 9w3d so must be the norm.

Tumtimes1 Thu 06-Feb-14 19:26:07

Guys is the booking in appointment the midwife meeting? I haven't booked mine I am 8w2d. Does anyone know when I should book in? Xx

SweetPeaPods Thu 06-Feb-14 19:38:03

Depends on your area but where I live I would try to arrange an appt soon. As after your booking in appt your mw will arrange your 12wk scan. But yes it's your first appt with mw. Basically loads of form filling, plus height, weight, I think they took some blood and urine too. That's where you will be given your antenatal notes.

SweetPeaPods Thu 06-Feb-14 21:34:48

I am aching all over. Really not sure why. My legs, my tummy, my back. It's really odd but going to have an earlyish night if your listening ds and see how I feel in morning.
Hope everyone else is feeling ok.

Handsfullandlovingit Thu 06-Feb-14 22:06:47

Hope you get some sleep and feel better tomorrow sweetpea. It could be anything, no panic. I'm just 5 weeks but starting to feel the tiredness setting in.

Yup tum I would get thee to a midwife or at least log it with gp so you are brought into the system ASAP. Our midwife is dotty and liable to forget you, so I will do much shouting this time.

I have wind and twinges all over my pelvis. It messes with your head. Loving crotch watch. Sounds like it needs a theme tune. Jaws theme seems appropriate...

TaytoCrisp Thu 06-Feb-14 22:07:59

Good plan Sweet, an early night does wonders.

Tum The booking appointment is the first meeting with midwife where they go through all your details. It can take up to an hour (or maybe that's because i had a midwife who was very nervous about typing and couldn't navigate the screen and dialogue boxes well..) In my area the booking appointment and scan are arranged at the same time. I rang my GP and they gave me the number to call. It would be good to make your appointment soon.

mum2kiss Fri 07-Feb-14 07:26:02

The reception at my surgery said that the booking in appointment can take up to an hour.

She also said appointments go like hotcakes so to make an appointment right away

fedupofrainydays Fri 07-Feb-14 07:39:42

Yeah you norm book in around 9 to 10 weeks. My doc arranged the scan date when I register the pregnancy with them / get mat exemption etc. but that's how they do it in my area.
Booking in is v dull (I took DH with me first time as thought would be fun in my naive days) and is the first in a long line of urine and blood tests!!

So feeling v sick today. I think I'm 4 plus 4 so still ridiculously early. Been managing to go to the toilet (no 2) without too much fear. The crotch watch is still constant.

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 08:31:18

LAst time My booking appointment was supposed to be at 9w and a bit. When I was told I was miscarrying I called the midwives office and told them to cancel it all, and still on the day I got a call to say I was late.
bastards!

this time i don't have any dates yet... other than the 7+2 scan on the 18th

squizita Fri 07-Feb-14 09:27:04

I got booked in at 8+3 (but I think this was convenient for them because I was going in for my 8 week check up with the recurrent miscarriage clinic anyway that day).

SweetPeaPods Fri 07-Feb-14 09:47:22

Tiny that's dreadful.
I do worry if I've jumped the gun this time by arranging my mw appt. have a really horrible feeling and it won't go away.

JBrd Fri 07-Feb-14 09:53:13

Sweetpea Hope you're feeling better today! I tried to have an early night as well last night and did got to be at 10.30pm - but then ended up reading until 12! Silly me angry

Yes, booking in is usually between 8-10 weeks, to give them enough time to arrange the 12 -week scan. I'm wondering if there is any way that I could get an early scan before seeing the midwife, so that I won't have to fill out all the bloody forms again, only for it all then to go pear-shaped... But that would probably mean I'd have to go and see my GP again, and I don't want to take more time off work - I've been to the doctor and dentist so often in the last few weeks...

Squiz I know we don't do fish slaps on this thread (actually, why don't we?), but I'm throwing a fish in your direction. Enjoy not feeling sick!

allisgood1 Fri 07-Feb-14 09:55:37

Can I join?

My DD is sept 9 though wink

History: 1MMC (6-7 weeks), DD1, 1MMC (6 weeks), 1 incomplete mc (7 weeks). Have had a total of 3 miscarriages but 5 ERPC's confused

Currently 9+3, hb seen at 8+3. Was feeling confident then I had a dream last night I went for a scan and it was gone hmm so feeling very depressed today. Not helped by the fact that I haven't taken my progesterone for 2 days, aspirin is very hit and miss depending on how sick I'm feeling, and can't remember the last time I took my prenatal vitamins. Convinced I've ruined it all now hmm

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 10:30:40

hello allisgood - September and October welcome!

Are they going to scan you agian, or wait until 12w?

I have been told that seeing a hb at 8w means a 98% chance of success

allisgood1 Fri 07-Feb-14 10:41:25

My scans were private so thats up to me. I can't contemplate it now--too scared!! I forgot to add in my stats DD2 after the 2 mc's. Baby brain!!

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 10:50:43

With your history maybe your GP can refer you to another scan.

I have a scan at 7w and it was referred by the GP... if that one goes well i may ask for a 9 or 10w one (cheeky) as when I had my DD i was under the RMC so was scanned at 6w, 8w and 10w... got a bit addicted to scans... and then when I developed GD I was scanned a lot in the end as well....

SweetPeaPods Fri 07-Feb-14 11:02:04

Hello Allisgood.
Tiny I think that's normally the case but with mc no 3 we had a hb but stopped growing at 9wk. But yes generally a hb is a very good sign.

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 11:09:46

sad all of mine (even when only discovered at 10w) never developed more than 6w

tannyLoo Fri 07-Feb-14 11:13:58

Me too Tiny... That's why next week feels so pressured. I'll be 6 weeks on Wednesday sad

fedupofrainydays Fri 07-Feb-14 11:20:13

Hello can I be added to the stats please?

Fedupofrainydays, 32, 1DS, 2 mc, EDD 14 oct.

I know I try not to symptom spot as also felt sick with both my mc. But feel pretty yuk today and sicky. Hard to ignore and not count as a good thing but also I know it doesn't mean anything at same time.

Am really busy at the mo so keeping my occupied but time is still so slow. Not even 5 weeks yet. EPU phoned to rearrange my scan to 18th so I have a week and a half to get through til then. Sounds short but feels everlasting.

squizita Fri 07-Feb-14 11:44:14

Tanny and Tiny me too. Hoping now I've got this far it's 'broken the curse' but who knows..?

Allis if you look back on the thread over on the pregnancy forum I kept having terrible miscarriage nightmares, maybe it's the hormones. But after them, I had a good scan ... they're just nightmares! Have you tried half a dissolved aspirin in a little warm water? My doc suggested it if I was feeling too queasey for tablets.

Jbird Thanks for the fishslap. Yeah I need it. Especially as for the last fortnight it's been 'one day sick, the next ok'.

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 12:01:51

ahhrgh ahhrgh ahhrgh.,..

a friend of mine just announced her pregnancy on FB with a photo of her little boy saying 'on big brother training' which is really cute... BUT...

she is due a few days AFTER me!! meaning she isn't even 6w yet!

Naive... naive...
She is lovely but just feels like tempting fate - i told a good friend, but wouldn't announce it to the world like this! at 5w!!

i so hope things will go well for them...

McRedHead Fri 07-Feb-14 12:58:13

Hello. A little advice please. My mmc discovered at 12 weeks but it was blighted ovum so nothing much visible on scan. When I mc the week later though there was still a lot of blood.

Is this was to happen earlier is there still a lot of blood. Going away for the weekend and driving myself crazy with silly thoughts but had a little blood when wiping this am.

I must remember TIAP.

TinyTear Fri 07-Feb-14 13:02:00

MY only natural mc (others were ERPC) was at 8w and there was A LOT of blood as well, I was soaking through pads really quickly... (and I was staying at the MIL so had to pass it off as a bad period)

Would you be able to get a scan this afternoon to see how things are going?

tannyLoo Fri 07-Feb-14 13:18:07

I've experienced both heavy and light bleeds with MCs, but usually lighter the earlier on it is.

Really hope it's all ok and just a bit of spotting. As tiny says, scan would be the way to know for sure, but you probably wouldn't want to know if you're going away.

Good luck!

McRedHead Fri 07-Feb-14 15:58:34

Thanks for replies. Still a bit of pinky brown this afternoon. I was at work and now heading down south until Tuesday. I'm hoping it just stops and I don't need to do any more about it. Was looking forward to this long weekend break, now just a little apprehensive.

I booked my doc appt for Friday next week. If I wanted reassurance would I call them first or EPAU at the hospital, even though I'm not on their books yet?

tannyLoo Fri 07-Feb-14 16:07:54

Personally, I'd go straight to EPU, even just over the phone. They have been really supportive and full of useful advice. Always seems to happen at the weekend, doesn't it?

McRedHead Fri 07-Feb-14 16:26:12

Thanks. Hopefully won't need to call. So many people on here say they've had some kind of bleeding and go on with a successful pg...

Wishing everyone a happy weekend cake

mum2kiss Fri 07-Feb-14 16:27:15

Ive just been to the loo and noticed a hint of pink when I wiped sad

I have a scan booked for.monday because I had some.pain last weekend. I was going to cancel.it as ive had no more pain but now I think I should go....

JBrd Fri 07-Feb-14 16:39:53

Tiny Wow, your friend must be very confindent. Or very naïve. Or just have no idea at all.
I always wonder what to do in these cases. I mean, would you say to your friend 'Actually, you might want to be careful about who you tell this early, because at this stage, everything is possible...'? And risk destroying their happiness and make them all anxious? But seriously, who doesn't know that you don't tell anyone until at least 12 weeks?!

Welcome allis Can you try carrying the aspirin and vitamins around with you, and as soon as you have a time where you don't feel sick, just take them? Just a thought... Or soluble aspirin, as someone suggested. I find the vitamins much easier to take on a full stomach.

red I don't think that there is a rule as to how much blood there is in early vs late mcs...
Unless you are gushing blood, I don't think that the EPU can/will want to do very much at this stage. Most likely, they will tell you that a lot of people have bleeding and/or spotting during their pregnancies, esp in the early stages. So you might as well go on your weekend away - it might do you good!
I know it's so hard, but try to relax! Whatever happens, it's out of your hands... (this is meant to sound encouraging, not sure I am getting the tone right here). Hopefully, it'll all stop again!

Can anyone suggest an activity for the weekend that might take my mind off being pg? So far, all I have planned is gardening, but that is very dependent on the weather. I need distraction, I feel I might go stir crazy otherwise!

McRedHead Fri 07-Feb-14 16:51:09

Jbrd, you're right of course. Thanks.

As for the weekend are you on your own or could you meet up with friends? Time passes easier with others. Or clear out the loft... (That's on my to do list anyway!) smile

McRedHead Fri 07-Feb-14 16:52:29

mum2kiss I would holdfire just now.

allisgood1 Fri 07-Feb-14 19:57:03

Mum2kiss and red. Hope your spotting settles into nothing. I've had it go both ways and only time will tell (unfortunately). In my case even the scan was an incorrect indication (I mc'd 2 days after a scan with heavy bleeding and hb). With DD2 it settled quickly and didn't come back.

mum2kiss Fri 07-Feb-14 20:14:36

Thanks guys...

it was a tiny tiny smear of pink...it was there on thenfirst wipe and then gone...ive been to the loo twice since and nothing.more...I am still having a.minor stroke though!

My awful indigestion and bloating seem to have gone today too so the lack of symptoms worries me!

My dp is totally relaxed and naive about the whole.thing! This will be his first dc. I told him.about the spotting he said "that very common in early pregnancy isnt it?!"... well.of course this is true but cant you be as concerned as me?!

SweetPeaPods Sat 08-Feb-14 09:19:09

How is everyone today? Any more spotting?
I'm very third this morning, not sure if it's being pg, or having ds!

McRedHead Sat 08-Feb-14 09:58:46

sad Dark red today, not much, but more like AF than yesterday. I'm not very hopeful. Good luck to you all.thanks

squizita Sat 08-Feb-14 10:25:21

mum2kiss I had 1 day 'red when I wipe' and it's been OK since (2 scans since, both fine). Fingers crossed for you. Maybe you need a chat with DP? Previously my very optimistic/happy-go-lucky DH has caused me terrible resentment and anger without realising. Once he realised it was much better (though he now waits for knicker check results with almost too bated breath!).

McRedHead Sorry to hear that. Still keeping FX for you.

fedupofrainydays Sat 08-Feb-14 11:01:02

mcred sorry to hear that I hope you are ok and I'm hopeful for you that it's 'just one of those things' and all is fine.

I'm feeling very crampy today and on knicker watch constantly. I took some paracetamol to try dull the cramps so I'm not thinking about it every second of the day and driving myself insane. I really do feel emotionally unstable with this pregnancy. I knew I would be but doesn't make it any easier sad

SweetPeaPods Sat 08-Feb-14 12:49:59

Mcred sorry to hear that Fx for you.
I've been crampy on and off I think the paracetamol helped distract me. Just read back and I obviously meant tired not third! 2.5hr nap with ds was just what the dr ordered thank you ds. Getting the night balance between feeling optimistic but not over excited is very difficult.

squizita Sat 08-Feb-14 13:24:32

Fedup and Sweetpea I'm having a bad knicker-checking day too. Twinges (nothing lasting) and dots (small enough to be part of loo roll) ... the usual for me.

tannyLoo Sat 08-Feb-14 14:08:30

Red crossing my fingers and toes. We're here for you.

Lots of cramps here too. Boobs have gone down a bit, and feeling the fear every time I pee.

I have posted on the RMC thread about this too. I got a letter from the gynae who says I have an abnormal blood result and have high IGM levels. He wants to do another test in 2 months, but obviously doesn't know I'm pg.

Dr Google says it can be a sign of APS, but can I have heparin without a second blood test? Am I too late?

Tumtimes1 Sat 08-Feb-14 14:35:08

I went onto Heparin with a negative sticky blood result as a precaution from 6w's. x

tannyLoo Sat 08-Feb-14 14:37:18

Thanks tum, how are you?

TaytoCrisp Sat 08-Feb-14 15:37:32

Oh ladies, must be something going round. Lessening of symptoms here today too. . Not ideal when waiting for the viability scan..

mcred hope u r ok. Sending a hug.

In terms of bleeding, an in-law told me she had mc-ed, following bleeding. And I had a long conversation with bro in law about it, offering a listening ear and empathy. A few weeks later mum in law told me all was fine with them. It has resulted in some complex dynamics which I won't go into here (around communication) but my point here is that she was absolutely fine, and is doing well coming up for 20 week scan. So even what must have been heavy bleeding did not result in mc in her case. But it must be scary. Sending good wishes and hugs to anyone experiencing this especially now.

mum2kiss Sat 08-Feb-14 17:30:33

No spotting here today just super tired!

Do any of.you have bullet nipples?! Mine are hard errect and tender but the rest of the breast feels.fine...very strange. I dont remember this with dc 1

TinyTear Sat 08-Feb-14 17:40:14

mum2kiss hell yeah! feeling embarassed to go out like this. need to find the breast pads somewhere...

and my DD has her last molar coming out so her latch can be a bit hard... OUCH!!

Millysdream Sat 08-Feb-14 20:42:41

My nipples are constantly erect at the moment

squizita Sat 08-Feb-14 22:21:27

Mine think it's freezing even when in a hot shower. Like wrinkly brown sultanas, they are. grin And one side is tenderer than the the other. And DH charmingly said they looked "massive, wobbly and a bit saggier than usual ... that'll be the hormones" which was a should I thank him or slap him moment!

Currently stressing because I ate spicy thai food for the first time in ages, got the 'just eaten chilli - need a poo' thing within an hour. Clearly NOT food poisoning (I've had this before, I've just irritated my guts with raw chilli) but paranoid it will damage bean. sad

fedupofrainydays Sun 09-Feb-14 07:14:54

Me too re erect nipples (but don't show through bra!) and after a random discussion once after too many wines apparently I have large nipples and areolas anyway!! Hee hee. I don't know how we got on to that chat but we did... And no we weren't measuring each other's... Just our own!!

SweetPeaPods Sun 09-Feb-14 07:21:17

My nipples are fine here. But they were with ds too.

SweetPeaPods Sun 09-Feb-14 10:21:55

Does anyone else feel like time/days are going really slowly?
I got kind of excited when I got my scan date but it still feels like ages away. Sometimes I think it must be better to find out when AF is late, but stupidly I tested early.

Tumtimes1 Sun 09-Feb-14 11:39:58

hi tanny i'm ok thanks. My latest stress is how long I will be on the heparin for. I want to be on it for the full duration but I have a feeling they will say I need to come off it at 12 weeks. I am sure that would be fine but you know when you get all worried about it....
I have my next scan on Friday (14th) and I would be 9w 3 d on that day. If I have got to that land mark I am going to allow myself some positive thinking.

I will be coming off the steroids at 12 weeks (weening off them) and I am looking forward to it. i swear my face is perfectly ROUND. Its round anyway, but its looking extra round to me.

sweetpea yup days are draaaaging indeed.

I am just about to go to a bridesmaid fitting (me being b-maid). The bride and b-maids don't know I am pregnant so I am hoping they don't expect a communal change. What with my pendulous veiny breasts and heparin bruised stomach, this could be a give away.

tannyLoo Sun 09-Feb-14 23:19:33

Had a crappy weekend thinking I am on my way out, so off for a morning visit to EPAC tomorrow.

fedupofrainydays Mon 10-Feb-14 06:45:05

tanny what's happened? I hope you are ok. Good luck at EPU xx

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 10-Feb-14 06:50:30

tanny what is going on? Yes, good luck at the epu.

I have been away this weekend and started Sat morning will some spectacular being sick. I was practically cheering in between clutching the toilet bowl. Yesterday and today I'm back to normal, which is both a relief and a worry.

Oh this time is passing too slowly...

TinyTear Mon 10-Feb-14 08:35:11

tanny good luck at the EPU, hope all is ok and you are still in the club

SweetPeaPods Mon 10-Feb-14 08:39:14

Tanny good luck at EPU

JBrd Mon 10-Feb-14 09:53:51

Hope you're OK, tanny

hands Had to laugh at the mental image of you cheering between retching. We are turning into proper nutjobs, aren't we...

So... I was 6 weeks yesterday, and for the first time, felt utterly and completely yuck. Had to lie down in the afternoon to sleep for a few hours, and that made it only marginally better. Really hoping that this is a good sign, FFS!
Much much better today, only feeling a little bit off - but that could well be because it's freezing in our office! Going to have a banana now, see what happens.
Got my appointment with the haematologist, and of course it's on the same day I have to take DS to his 2.5yr assessment. Hmph. Well, guess, DS will have to wait to be assessed then grin

squizita Mon 10-Feb-14 11:29:30

Tanny Hope all is well, good luck at the EPU. thanks

JBrd Mon 10-Feb-14 11:40:34

McRed How are you? Any new developments over the weekend? Hope all is good with you x

allisgood1 Mon 10-Feb-14 14:24:46

Ladies with no/lessening symptoms...I was one of you (the week before last) and I can say with certainty, its back and it sucks! I haven't been able to get out of bed or look after my children properly since Thurs. Every day I pray the next will be better and its not. 10 weeks tomorrow here. Slowly feel like dying. I've also been sick twice now with no sign that its going to ease up (and I have things to do and can't get up!). IF you are lucky enough to have one bad day interspersed with good days THANK THE LORDS...you are so lucky. Off my box and back hiding under the duvet. sad

tannyLoo Mon 10-Feb-14 15:08:26

It looks like I'm out again.

I went to EPU because I had a letter from the gynae consultant about my blood tests, which had abnormal IgM levels (today I was told it was high IgG levels). I was worried about lack of symptoms and some cramping.

Pg test was only very feint line, nurse was surprised I wasn't already bleeding.

The consultant scanned me and I had an irregular but empty sac, with a slight shadow.

He agreed with me about trying heparin, which I was hoping for when I thought it was still possibly a viable pg, but seems a bit after the event.

Rescan in 10 days if no bleeding. Heparin and aspirin and progesterone in the meantime.

I wouldn't wish this shit on anyone, and can't see any way forward.

TinyTear Mon 10-Feb-14 15:20:21

oh tanny I'm so so sorry!

How many weeks are you supposed to be? 6w?
Fingers crossed on good news and hope the 10 days won't just draaaag

JBrd Mon 10-Feb-14 15:25:09

Oh tanny I'm so sorry, how awful for you. Do you think that there is any chance it might be too early to see anything?
Wishing you lots of strength for the next 10 days...

SweetPeaPods Mon 10-Feb-14 15:57:47

Tanny I'm so sorry. Big virtual hugs to you. I'll keep my Fx for your next scan. Life sucks sometimes doesn't it.

allisgood1 Mon 10-Feb-14 16:55:26

Wishing you all the best tanny. With a regime, maybe its too early to say its over??

mum2kiss Mon 10-Feb-14 16:59:29

So sorry tanny sad

I can only imagine how you're feeling and its an image I remember for the same sad reasons. Fx that you get your sticky bean soon

fedupofrainydays Mon 10-Feb-14 17:13:52

tanny sad I'm so sorry. Life is so unfair and rubbish at times. Thinking of you lots and hope for all it's worth that the treatment works, and if it doesn't you have a good plan for next time. X

TaytoCrisp Mon 10-Feb-14 19:56:46

tanny so sorry to read your update. What a stressful couple of weeks it has been for you, and continues to be. I really hope things work out... but it is hard to call now. Sending you a hug and strength for the days ahead. Thinking of you.

tannyLoo Mon 10-Feb-14 20:39:51

My first heparin injection is done.

I appreciate all the positivity, but no one had a positive or hopeful face today.

To borrow from elsewhere, chin up, tits out...

Handsfullandlovingit Mon 10-Feb-14 20:59:32

Oh tanny you poor love, I am sending you a big hug. The next few weeks will be grim whatever the outcome, and you have our support for all of it.

fedupofrainydays Mon 10-Feb-14 21:49:15

tanny I echo handsfull we are here to support you whatever the outcome. Definately time for chin up and tits out xx

McRedHead Mon 10-Feb-14 22:57:46

ladies, I'm still away from home and had the worst three days. The bleeding continued including worse than clots. I took cb digi two weeks ago which said 2-3 weeks. It said the same 4 days ago (I tested the morning after I had a vivid dream that I has miscarried-... paranoia!) but then the spotting started. I believe it to be more a chemical pregnancy. I was so hopeful this time. Should I keep my doc appt on Fri to let him know. Does it matter?

McRedHead Mon 10-Feb-14 23:07:12

can someone take me off October stats on other page parade. I'd rather not go back and say. Thanks xx

McRedHead Mon 10-Feb-14 23:53:05

please not parade

squizita Tue 11-Feb-14 08:34:00

McRedHead So sorry to hear this. sad thanks If it said 2-3 weeks it wasn't a chemical pregnancy, it was an early loss, so yes you should let your doctor know. You don't have to pass an intact sac to mean there was a (small) sac there: often they break up or absorb. I've had losses that early and my GP made sure I had a follow up scan and swab to check no infection, and referred to them as 'miscarriage'- she even mentioned how many losses are misdiagnosed by busy GPs (or women at home) as 'chemical pregnancies' when they need after care, they go straight back to work etc'.
Her guideline was "if you knew you were pregnant, it probably wasn't chemical".

TinyTear Tue 11-Feb-14 08:39:49

So sorry McRed
x
do keep your doctor appointment

tannyLoo Tue 11-Feb-14 09:42:41

Red I'm so sorry. Of course it matters. Go to your GP appt and make sure it gets recorded as a miscarriage, that you get some time off work and get heard and with a plan of what to do next.

Stay with us as long as you want. Although I will eventually duck out of here, having the support of this group is really important to me.

thanks

SweetPeaPods Tue 11-Feb-14 10:26:59

Sorry to hear that Red.
I would definitely tell GP and take as long as you need off work.

nearlyreadytopop Tue 11-Feb-14 13:21:42

sorry to hear that red

Handsfullandlovingit Tue 11-Feb-14 16:52:32

Oh red, I am so sorry.

allisgood1 Tue 11-Feb-14 19:18:51

So sorry red :-(

fedupofrainydays Tue 11-Feb-14 19:38:28

red so sorry to hear that. Definately tell your doctor and no, I don't think its a chemical and I think squiz definition was a good one and you definately knew you are pregnant.
No matter how early or not these mc still fucking suck. And do matter. So please do take the time you need. thanks

mum2kiss Tue 11-Feb-14 20:13:41

Sorry to hear this red

Ugh ive got the pink cm again this evening...im 5+3 today...just when I had started to try and relax a bit, and its back! Still just when I wipe but I'd rather not see any! Sorry if tmi but I had a lot of creamy cm this morning, now its pink this evening...wish I new if this was something to worry about or not!

fedupofrainydays Tue 11-Feb-14 21:21:20

I wouldn't worry if it was just pinky mum2. But I know that's easier said than done. If you are concerned still / it gets more i would consider EPU, even if just to stop you going nuts checking your pants. I am having quite a lot of cm too and this morning my heart stopped when i saw a red blob in it. Turned out to be red fluff. No idea where that came from as everything i had been wearing was blue!

mum2kiss Tue 11-Feb-14 22:26:28

Lol that red fluff did make me laugh fedup

Just went to the loo again and no more pink...just mild cramping which I seem to get every few days...

was looking forward to dtd tonight as well as we havent since I first saw the the pink.spotting on Friday...not sure if I'll be able to stop worrying enough now!

Millysdream Wed 12-Feb-14 07:05:07

Sorry to everyone who is having a hard time at the moment. We have all been there and it just isn't fair.
It's scan day for me tomorrow. Not confident at all. No symptoms at all for over a week (except very mild breast tenderness). I feel too good physically to be pregnant. Emotionally I am a wreck. If this one is gone I am probably giving up. The last year has broken me. I don't feel like myself anymore. I have turned into a baby crazed obsessed monster. Going to plod through today at work then probably toss and turn all night.

squizita Wed 12-Feb-14 08:16:03

Millys fx for you. Chin up. My symptoms have been extremely varied (as in some loads, sometimes nothing) but luckily had 2 good scans so far.
I'm freaking out today as I feel 'too well' too!

Fedup that fluff story is familiar. Happened to me too!

Mum I had some pink in my CM at 5 weeks, but it faded. FX.

TWO stupid things from me today:
1) Worried about symptoms. Not actually been sick for a few days (still get waves of nausea), boobs feel sore on/off, although swollen.
2) Went on to the childbirth forum. OMG. Almost 100% of posts are 'things that have gone wrong' and some of the women (understandably) post on and on about their ruined bodies. Terrified that as (I feel) my body is a bit shite at making babies it will almost 100% fail if/when I get to term. shock

SweetPeaPods Wed 12-Feb-14 08:24:54

Milly good luck for 2mrw, Fx for you.
Squiz don't worry about labour yet. It's amazing what the human body can do, and what you haven't read is all the 'normal' birth stories which there are many more off.
I won't tell you my birth story just yet! Just getting to that point is what we're all finding so difficult!
I keep getting cramps on and off. Can't really remember if I got them with ds or not. I wish I had kept more of a pg journal with ds but I was so sick that it would have been a very distressing read!

TinyTear Wed 12-Feb-14 08:36:51

good luck for tomorrow Milly...
my scan is next tuesday... less than a week...

my main sympton is poky outy bullet nipples OUCH
and my lovely breastfeeding teething 2yo has had a terrible latch lately so i cringe whenever she asks for mummy milk... but i am doing don't offer don't refuse so i just grin and bear it...

Eeeeek

tannyLoo Wed 12-Feb-14 09:07:16

Milly good luck for the scan tomorrow. I know what you mean about emotions. I'm seriously considering giving up. DH says I'm distant and so focused on being pg that the rest of the world seems to disappear. sad

JBrd Wed 12-Feb-14 09:19:50

Milly Fingers crossed for your scan! Don't worry about feeling 'too good', lots of people have no symptoms at all! There is no rule that you need to be sick as a dog when you're pg wink

tanny Don't give up just yet, there is still hope! I know that it must be so hard being in limbo where it could swing both ways. When is your next scan? How are you feeling physically?
And being focused on being pg is a survival strategy, everything else just becomes unimportant.

squizI've already told you off on the other thread, but I just had another thought - you know, how on Tripadvisor, the majority of the reviews are negative? It's because people generally want to share the bad stories, to let off steam, but good experience stories are much rarer because most people just can't be bothered. Same thing everywhere, including that thread you've been reading.

squizita Wed 12-Feb-14 11:56:49

Thanks Jbird! I don't know what came over me. As I mentioned I think if/when the time comes my RL friends would be far more useful than the board-they'll be frank (one had a BIG boy and needed exercises to get her pelvic floor back, another had one so sudden/easy he almost popped out in Waitrose!) but non-scary/hysterical.

Tumtimes1 Wed 12-Feb-14 13:00:41

Oh Squiz your scaring me!! What are the horror stories? Actually don't tell me.:-)
Tiny good luck for your scan next tuesday.
Good luck for you Milly for tomorrow. I know how you feel about the symoptoms mine are coming and going but ultimately I feel generally pretty well. This concerns me.
I have my next scan on friday at 4pm. Why are scans on a friday? I am ezpecially nervous as I am 9w 1d today (or should be) and I am aware that if the scan goes well on Friday then this might actually really be happening.

fedupofrainydays Wed 12-Feb-14 20:02:51

My scans are annoyingly on Tuesday or Thursday - I would love a Friday (as don't work Friday!)

I'm the same... Worried I feel too good. Really resisting the urge to POAS to see strength of line as if it's faint what am I going to do anyway? Scan on Tuesday... Just got to get to that milestone.
How did it go milly? Hope all is good.

Im amazed squiz you are already worrying about the birth bit! In a way that's much more positive thinking than me... I'm not even thinking beyond next week at this stage! And if you are really stressed about it - you can have a c section. Someone i knew for themselves so worked up, she was given a c section as was so scared of birth. She now says she wished she had given the naturel a go as feels she 'missed out'. No pleasing some is there!!!!!

SweetPeaPods Wed 12-Feb-14 21:58:46

My scans are always on a wed as that's the day the recurrent mc clinic runs so don't think there is every a happy medium.

fedupofrainydays Wed 12-Feb-14 22:02:03

True.. Tues and thurs afternoons are for the location and reassurance scans - mine is a location one next week hmm

JBrd Wed 12-Feb-14 22:34:33

I'm so scared at the moment - I had a dull backache today, but thought it's because I'm hunching over my desk at work... But now my discharge is slightly darker than usual (sorry tmi). It's probably nothing, I wouldn't even call it brown, just more yellow than its usual white, but still, freaking out. Please please let this be a false alarm...sad

tannyLoo Wed 12-Feb-14 23:07:59

jbrd I hope you manage to have a restful night and that it's just a tired back and some dark CM. It really is possible. She says.

I had a completely hysterical moment last night but have felt more calm today. I think it cleared the air and made DH and I talk properly.

Since taking heparin my cramps have gone. Don't know what that means.

I have small smidgens of hopefulness and then tell myself off. Silly arse.

I'm not going to POAS and just go to the scan next Thursday.

Sorry it's all about me. I am rooting for you all, and it's crazy how much I care about you...

tannyLoo Wed 12-Feb-14 23:10:54

Sorry jbrd. The "she says" was directed at me for being so quick to think of the worst case scenario. My communication skills are a bit spiky at the moment.

squizita Thu 13-Feb-14 08:16:10

Jbird I have had yellow and cream. Inspected the yellow a lot in case it was really brown. Nothing happened, it goes back and forth between yellow/cream/clear and Doc wasn't fussed. FX this is the same for you.

Tanny FX it works!!!

My boobs are getting me down. They used to be reliably sore all the time and now I am going through periods where they are still enorm and veiny but not sore. Then they get tender again. Coming up for week 10 (at the weekend) - I've heard symptoms change a bit then, hoping it's that.

Still getting the nausea on-off thankfully (not too bad, not too good) and was sick yesterday. Going to an American diner with work tonight, which specialises in milkshake (which I presume is pasteurised and permitted). "My milkshake brings all the puke to the yard" grin

allisgood1 Thu 13-Feb-14 09:20:00

Jbird My cm also varies from white to green to yellow. Try not to worry.

Tanny all fx here for you!

squiz Boob soreness goes away around now from what I can remember. Mine are like water balloons!

Have woken with a headache today but not as nauseated, thank god. These last 2 weeks have been hell. Although I am thinking I'll need to eat my bag of crisps very soon as I can feel it creeping back. I just wish I actually fancied food!! sad

JBrd Thu 13-Feb-14 09:46:22

CM is brown this morning sad I'm beside myself with fear, running to the loo every half hour to check.
This is exactly how it all started with my mcs...

squizita Thu 13-Feb-14 09:51:40

Jbird can you get to a docs? Just for reassurance? FX it's a cm phase.

allisgood thanks! smile Yep mine are ridonkulous but if the soreness fading is 'normal' then it can fade away and take the queaze with it !

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 09:51:46

Please can I just talk on here for some support

I am due October 13th, 1 previous mc 1 termination for medical reasons so desperately hoping everything will be okay, but I feel like I'm on my way to another loss

I have ibs and had a horrible episode last night which lasted hours. When I got up off the toilet i wiped and there was a small amount of pink bloody discharge. There has been nothing since but in

tannyLoo Thu 13-Feb-14 09:52:43

Jbrd keeping everything crossed for you. Can you get a scan?

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 09:53:55

Sorry, I'm terrified the cramping of the ibs has started a miscarriage or something. I'm so early there's nothing I can do, I still feel horrific and am cramping now, but I'm quite sure it is my bowel in pain. I'm so scared about going through another loss :-(

Millysdream Thu 13-Feb-14 09:57:04

I cried all night, all morning and all through the scan, convinced it was bad news. Well it's not! The baby is10w 5 days with a strong heartbeat. They even give me a scan picture and I never thought I would ever get to this stage.

So anyone worried about lack of symptoms or fading symptoms try not to panic (hard I know) but it obviously doesn't mean anything to me. Maybe this baby knows what a hard time I have had over the last year and wants to be kind.

St Mary's manchester are such a fantastic hospital for ladies in the area xxx

squizita Thu 13-Feb-14 10:01:27

smile smile smile Milly's that is excellent news, really glad for you.

TinyTear Thu 13-Feb-14 10:16:33

great news Milly
hooray!

SweetPeaPods Thu 13-Feb-14 10:50:13

Great news Milly thanks

TinyTear Thu 13-Feb-14 11:49:34

Just had a call from my GP about my thyroid test results and it seems I am now taking too much thyroxine (I upped my dose on BFP)

So to go back down to 150mcg instead of the 175mcg I am currently taking...

Scan on tuesday, so in less than a week i will know how things are progressing...

have taken the higher dose for just over 2 weeks so let's see if it helped...

after the scan on tuesday then i need to either make an appointment or just request a phone call with him and he can then refer me to the midwives and stuff. in a way it's good it hasn't happened yet as it means if things go bad again i won't have the worry of cancelling all the appointments and scans...

6+4 today, scan will be at 7+2... nothing more to do than wait and see

nearlyreadytopop Thu 13-Feb-14 12:06:33

I have a scan on Tuesday too tiny and this week is really really dragging. Postive thinking required.

fedupofrainydays Thu 13-Feb-14 12:10:30

Congrats milly great news! I'm worrying bout lack of symptoms here so good to know. Although I am comparing to my only successful pregnancy when I felt shit from before bfp.

jbrd I forget how many weeks are you? Can you get to EPU? It's so horrid isn't it. Both my mc started with brown too so I really know how you must be feeling. I can say brown blood is ok but in your case it obviously wasn't before (nor mine) so I would ring EPU and if you are over 5 wks they should be able to see something.

fedupofrainydays Thu 13-Feb-14 12:11:22

Mine is on Tuesday too at 2pm. Petrified

JBrd Thu 13-Feb-14 12:13:21

Great news Milly Hope you can relax a bit now.

ltd I can completely understand your anxiety! However, if you are certain that the cramping is due to IBS, is there something you can do to lessen it (painkillers or the like? Not sure what you can take for this when pg).
Also (and sorry for the personal question) are you sure that the pink matter came from the front when you wiped, and not the back? You might have ruptured a small blood vessel 'down there', which could explain it... Fingers crossed that it'll all calm down.

I'm still very scared - no more brown stuff when I went to the toilet last time, but I still have a back ache, and now also slight stomach cramps sad
No point asking for a scan at this stage, I'm not even 7 weeks. And my EPU don't do anything unless you have been bleeding for at least a week. Like tiny said, nothing more to do than wait and see.

TinyTear Thu 13-Feb-14 12:14:51

fedup and nearly mine is at 9h45

At least I don't have to wait during the day...

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 13:26:50

Hi jbird, definitely from the front unfortunately but nothing since the early hours. Epu don't seem concerned but then they never do in my experience.

It was just one streak of red/pink discharge. The cramps are definitely irritable bowel because they go away as soon as I go to the loo, and then slowly build up again until I go again xx

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 13:27:34

Is there a chance it could just be from straining? Sorry for the tmi question.

Millysdream Thu 13-Feb-14 16:33:35

A few weeks ago I had brown discharge in my knickers and when I wiped. This happened the next day as well. I went to epu and they did a scan. They couldn't see any reason for the bleeding and said not to worry. Try not to panic too much. It is so hard to know what will be. These things are sent to try us! Xxx

Millysdream Thu 13-Feb-14 16:40:05

fed up tiny nearly I am keeping my fingers crossed for you on Tuesday. Luckily the last who scanned me was excellent. She saw how upset and anxious I was so she said that she wouldn't keep me in suspense and she didn't. She told me straight away that she could see a heart beat with no messing around.

New dilemma- hubby doesn't want me to have the Down's syndrome test at next scan. Plus hospital said would only scan again at 16 weeks if I didn't have the test. I really want it. I need to be reassured again before 16 weeks plus I would like to know what is in store. Hubby says he wants the baby whatever. He is being very stubborn on this!!!!

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 16:54:52

My cramps have totally subsided, it's not unusual for my stomach to be like this the day after. I also have had a pad on all day and only lost normal discharge. I've had some suspicious discharge when wiping, but I'm only looking because I'm so worried, if that makes sense?

My husband is so optimistic and I feel like I've given up on this pregnancy already. Thanks for listening xx

allisgood1 Thu 13-Feb-14 16:55:29

Jbrd I also had brown spotting in my 2 successful pregnancies. It pretty much went a few hours after it started. With my mc's it carried on and got heavier. The fact that its stopped is very very good.

milly so pleased you had a good scan! I am 10+2 and really starting to get scan fear again. I don't know when my next one is...
Re: testing. I would argue that you just want to know. If its not going to change your mind, surely its better to be prepared than not? Also, to be blunt, its your decision, not your DH's. Its your body. That would be my argument.

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 16:55:39

Millysdream, how far along are you? X

tannyLoo Thu 13-Feb-14 17:20:08

It's all getting a bit sad here. I came home from work this morning as I just couldn't stop crying. I hate this process and the lack of sympathy and understanding in the real world.

I don't have symptoms any more, even on a high dose of progesterone.

I really threw everything I could at this one.

Millysdream Thu 13-Feb-14 17:23:24

10w5d says the scan. I can have another between 11-13 weeks if I have the testing. If not I have to wait till 20th march (16 weeks) then will have 20 week scan as normal.
I always wanted testing just to know. Plus if all is ok it is one less worry.

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 17:24:27

Aww tannyloo, so sorry your having a hard time. What's your history if you don't mind me asking. I hope your okay xx

Millysdream Thu 13-Feb-14 17:26:02

tanny big hugs. It is so hard when everyone around you just doesn't get it. I don't think they can understand what it dies to us mentally. I was going to punch the next person who told me to stay positive. Remember no symptoms for me for about a week so ignore that x

ldt87 Thu 13-Feb-14 17:26:43

Millysdream, I had issues at my 12 week scan which didn't show up at 10. Knowing that I would never turn down that scan, because I couldn't imagine not getting the news I did until 16 weeks

Not to scare you, but may be worth mentioning to your husband that it isn't only downs that scan is used for xx

squizita Thu 13-Feb-14 21:38:40

Tanny sad It's awful, just awful when there's no one in RL who 'gets it'. Thinking of you.

Millys As it's been said... your body, your choice. I know it's hard but husbands/partners don't carry the baby and haven't been through our losses in quite the same way. Hope you get it resolved.

Ltd I have had 2 incidents this pregnancy where I pooed hard and got a 'pink wipe'. I'm on clexane so bleed easy. I had my scans after the poo/wipe incidents and they had done no harm. FX it's the same.

JBird FX that's the last you see of the brown blood! I can imagine the horror with all the memories flooding back, here's hoping (as in a majority of cases) it's a small bleed and means nothing.

I threw up my whole lunch today, and ate a massive burger for dinner. Replacing the calories. wink It was a proper preggers burger as I ordered loads of extra pickles on it.

fedupofrainydays Thu 13-Feb-14 22:52:06

tanny I hope that here we help with listening and can acknowledge and understand how really so crap and heartbreaking it is. I get so annoyed and let down by people in real life who give all the 'at least you got pregnant' or try and be all 'cheer up' about it. I bet you it's pretty hard to do the chin up and tits out right now. flowers
I would have the scan milly you can ask not to know the downs result afterwards - as they do check everything else too. I agree tho, it's your body and if you need that scan for reassurance go with it. Or pay for a private one that isn't a downs checking one?

fedupofrainydays Fri 14-Feb-14 07:48:16

How are you jbrd and ltd?

ldt87 Fri 14-Feb-14 07:58:09

Hi fedup, my ibs has settled right down, no cramping at all, just a bit of a dodgy stomach left over. I'm starting to think it might be okay after all. No more cramps, nothing when I wipe. Hoping things will be okay

How is everyone today? Xx

squizita Fri 14-Feb-14 08:32:04

Glad to hear that Ldt - must be a weight off your mind.

I had dreadful bowels/cramps last night. Basically I was STARVING after puking up lunch, went out with work and gorged a massive burger and milkshake (in a diner not MDs! grin ) ... all night I was cramped up (clearly gastric, my tum not used to big meals) and I dreamed so vividly of vomiting up vanilla milkshake I woke in a panic thinking I'd puked in my sleep. Thankfully not.

Back to feeling moderately queasy (a blessing: know the hormones are there but OK) but generally OK.
Have to supervise a school disco today (as you may have guessed from my frequent 'checking mumsnet on my phone' my job involves a lot of supervising/wandering to head of bad behaviour, I'm not "bad teacher" texting in lesson LOL). On a wet afternoon in Feb.
Teen sweat + Lynx + trainers + closed windows + sweat + radiators = THE WORLDS MOST VOMIT INDUCING SMELL. This may be "interesting" with MS hahaha. grin

JBrd Fri 14-Feb-14 08:53:47

tanny So sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time. Is there anyone who you can talk to at all? A good friend? Your DH? It can be so lonely...

ltd Good news that it has all settled down for you, fingers crossed that your pregnancy will be uneventful from now on.

I wish I could say the same about me. After the brown cm settled down yesterday, and I was getting a bit more positive, there was red blood this morning sad Not much, and I only noticed it because I had to put the progesterone pessary in, but it was definitely there. This can't be happening again, please....

ldt87 Fri 14-Feb-14 09:47:10

I've got everything crossed for you jbird, hopefully it's just things getting settled, how far are you?

My stomach is still so tender, like my bowels are just on the verge of spasm constantly and my back is killing, I just wish it would settle down completely as it's hard to relax with aches and pains going on xx

mum2kiss Fri 14-Feb-14 09:53:07

More spotting for me yesterday evening...whats going on with us?!

I had mild cramping for most of the day yesterday too...the spotting always seems to be in the evening...not sure if that means anything in particular...

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 09:57:29

I can only relate anecdata as for me bleeding/spotting always meant miscarriage but I do know of a few people who had spotting and even proper bleeding and went on to have healthy babies - in a couple of cases they were losing one twin and the other one survived

fedupofrainydays Fri 14-Feb-14 13:33:38

Just went to see my sister and she was 'so are you pregnant' with first 5 mins. Apparently it's be issue I hadn't bombarded her with doom and gloom that I had my period this month!! I don't want everyone to know really as I'm not thinking that far ahead. Just carrying til if I get to that 12 week and all ok.

Sorry ltd your tummy is still being dodgy. I know it's so hard to relax when in pain. As it's a constant reminder / worry.

jbrd I would def to to EPU if it's still going on Monday. You are far enough to see what's there.. And you have had bleeding on and off for a while so they will see you.

My neighbour (and friend) had her baby last night... Of round this afternoon. I hope I hold it together...

JBrd Fri 14-Feb-14 13:43:18

Thank you all. It seems to have settled down again, no more fresh blood since the bit this morning, and only very little off-colour discharge (I'm checking my panty-liners like a loon, all I need is a microscope confused). I'm hoping and praying that it was a one-off, but from my experience I know that everything is still in the open... I've just had this too many times.
I think I'll give them gym tonight a miss... I wouldn't be able to enjoy it.

And then I'm supposed to go to a friend's babyshower on Sunday - which I am not a fan off anyway (the babyshowers, not my friend), and other friends are just assuming that I'm happy to contribute to the present - WTF?! I will happily buy my friend a present when the baby has arrived, but another present, and before it's even here?! I don't think so angry

Sorry for the rant. By writing this here, I might be able to now construct a civic answer to my present-throwing friends, politely declining any contributions at this stage.

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 13:44:04

i had a friend from another birthgroup ask me if i'd been to the NK testing. i had to tell her i was waiting to ovulate as i needed to make the appointment on the day the ovulation test said positive...

i didn't lie... but felt a bit bad not telling ehr the truth

Tumtimes1 Fri 14-Feb-14 14:29:30

Hi jbird and mum2kiss hope your spotting stops completely very soon.
tiny ive had to outright lie to my friends who have asked me. I do feel bad but i just dont want them knowing yet.

Im feeling crappy. I had a very stressful day qt work yesterday where in i ended up having a heated discussion with a colleague that really upset me.
When I went to speak to my boss i started crying which made me feel like a dick. I'm supposed to be quite 'senior' in my company and I manage a big team and i just felt rubbish.
This morning i headed into work but got a migraine with aura (mainly aura) on the train (2nd one this pregnancy) so had to come home (makes me blind in one eye etc).
And so now it has passed im sitting here worrying what my boss thinks.
And to top it off I have a scan in 1hour 25mins. I'm dreading it.

Gah! Sorry to rant, im so trying to think positive. If this one is ok I would be 9w 2 d.

nearlyreadytopop Fri 14-Feb-14 14:49:55

jbrd glad things are settling down.
I have been quite sore today, a low dull ache. I've had this a few times this pregnancy and always notice extra mucus ( sorry if tmi) afterwards. I'm sure I had feelings like this in my first successful pregnancy but I wasn't really aware of it all then, so naive.
tum does your boss know you are pregnant? I don't think you can be expected to work with migraine. I had my first one ever complete with vision problems the other week. I couldn't believe how painful it was and it really scared me. Is this something I should tell gp about or is it just preg hormones as Dr Google told me?
My mindful pregnancy book has arrived, perfect timing as I'm going slowly mad in the days coming up to 12 week scan on Tuesday.

Tumtimes1 Fri 14-Feb-14 14:56:21

Mindful pregnanacy? Is that all about positive thinking? If today goes ok i will buy it

My boss does know im pregnant but she hates kids so isnt the most understanding. X

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 14:57:15

good luck with your scan later tum

Tumtimes1 Fri 14-Feb-14 15:08:07

Also nearly if you arent usually a sufferer of migraine i would just let the doc know.
I myself have had migraine with aura (vision and numbness etc) sporadically but during pregnancy they usually become more frequent. Apparently this is normal my neurologist tells me. X

Tumtimes1 Fri 14-Feb-14 15:10:28

Btw sorry just to add -migraine in pregnancy is totally normal and is just a symptom, telling your doc would be more of an fyi.

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 15:45:34

Afternoon ladies. I'm tentatively joining you after finding out on Wednesday that our first attempt at IVF was successful and I'm pregnant. Its VERY early days and after 2 miscarriages and a cp I'm far from relaxed. I've had some shocking period pain type cramps and last night they were so severe I begged my DH to call me an ambulance. The clinic I'm under can't tell me what's causing them but think it may be everything settling down as I over stimulated on the IVF so my ovaries will be pretty huge.

I'm taking progrsterone, aspirin and fragmin and have a 6 week scan on the 28th when I should be 6+3.

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 15:52:58

Welcome buggerlugs

Hope you feel comfortable here... we are not afraid to talk fears, anger and crotch watch... without scaring (and scarring) the wide-eyed innocent newbies who might already be buying prams...

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 15:56:10

Once upon a time, Tiny that was me. How naive was I. In my first pregnancy I registered for the Boots Parenting Club and still have a £25 voucher Mothercare sent me when I ordered their brochure. God what a fool!

I just can't see how everything can be ok when I honestly felt like someone was rippling my cervix out last night.

fedupofrainydays Fri 14-Feb-14 17:18:11

Oh hi buggerlugs and yay to ivf working!!! I remember you from the BESH thread! (I ashamedly couldn't keep up as it moved too fast!)

Those cramps sound very scary for you. I hope you are ok now?

I'm on crotch watch continually and my heart just stopped as when I wiped just now I saw the pink of my fingers through the paper and thought was pink cm. I so got to stop doing this to myself as I'm not sure I can cope... 3 full days still scan now but still worried they won't be able to see anything....

fedupofrainydays Fri 14-Feb-14 17:20:53

How did it go tum?

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 17:24:59

There you are Rainydays, I wondered where you went. The BESH are very guilty of being a quiche I'm afraid. We are very protective of each other and do talk a lot, an awful lot.

When did you get your BFP?

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 17:41:08

What's a quiche?

My first mc was at 10 weeks. I had also signed up for mailing lists and had bought three pregnancy books.

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 17:43:43

It's the MN word for a clique. Sorry grin

Tumtimes1 Fri 14-Feb-14 17:47:41

Hello - well I cant believe it but the scan was good. Baby is progressing well and measured correct. We dont have any children so this seems mad that it actually may happen.
The doctor has said i come off clexane at 14 weeks - anyone else been advised this?

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 17:51:06

Yay tum

Ahhh should have guessed. Haven't been active here that long...

fedupofrainydays Fri 14-Feb-14 17:59:26

I couldn't cope with getting back from work and reading pages of posts! Lost the thread quite literally. But I do miss my cunt bunting wink
I got my bfp 1.5 weeks ago - I'm 5 and a half weeks. So in proper scary zone.

tum yay that's great news!!!!

Hmmmm I could eat quice right now....

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 18:01:35

Tum fantastic news. I can imagine the fear and anxiety before the scan and the sheer relief afterwards.

Rainy congrats on the BFP.

<scatters a few TWAT cushions round to make everyone feel at home>

TheBuggerlugs Fri 14-Feb-14 19:27:48

My DH has come home from work where he's been speaking to a good friend who's pregnant after IVF who also had shocking pains until 12 weeks so I'm trying to be hopeful and happy that everything is normal...........it's hard though.

Millysdream Fri 14-Feb-14 19:36:17

tum so pleased for you. Yeah. In the same boat- no kids and things ok so far. I was being to think I wasn't going to have any xxxx really pleased for you xxxxx

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 20:48:33

With my Daughter even after successful acana at 6, 8, 10 and 12 weeks I didn't buy anything until the 20 week scan. I felt I jinxed it when I got maternity clothes at 16 weeks...

I think I only enjoyed weeks 20 to 30 last time.

TinyTear Fri 14-Feb-14 20:49:14

Acana = Scans
Fat fingers

Millysdream Sat 15-Feb-14 02:59:13

When did you tell people tiny? I am feeling better after scan but no where near telling people. Probably having scan at 13 weeks then one at 16. Is it likely I could last to 20 without showing ? Luckily I put weight on due to stress of the last year so not particularly noticeable- esp in pants. I don't want to jinx anything. It doesn't feel real. You said you enjoyed 20-30. That gives me hope as I wasn't expecting to enjoy by of it except a few days after a good scan xx

JBrd Sat 15-Feb-14 08:04:19

I'm not planning to tell anyone except some very chosen few friends who already know now - they have been so supportive during my mcs, they know the deal. No family will know until I have seen a heartbeat.
But I am planning to tell my boss prob next week, just so that she can be prepared that I might drop off the face of the earth suddenly confused

TinyTear Sat 15-Feb-14 08:17:27

Last time I told some friends at 12 weeks and didn't make a fb announcement or anything, just let it drop on conversations. JUst one of my friends knew from the start.

This time the same, only one of my friends knows from the start

Milly i probably would have enjoyed more, but at 30w was diagnosed with gestational diabetes so had to rethink my whole way of eating and it was tiring, and checking the blood 4 times a day and so on...

yes, might tell the boss next week so he knows. he was very supportive in all the miscarriages especially as in the days of the ERPC i couldn't call in sick on the day as i was in hospital from 7h30, so told him in advance so we didn't have to follow protocol

Millysdream Sat 15-Feb-14 08:20:54

I have seen the heartbeat 3 times now. My boss knows and my teaching assistant at work ( so she can lift the heavy stuff for me) plus she is a good friend. My best friend and my sister knows as they have been very supportive through the miscarriages. As for everyone else I am leaving it as long as I can. Hubby would like to tell a few of his close friends soon but they don't know about my miscarriages. When I tell people I want to be able to get excited but am not in that place yet. I am too worried still. For most people 12 weeks is when they tell but feel it's different for me x

Millysdream Sat 15-Feb-14 08:29:30

My mum hasn't been great through the miscarriages. I told her after number 3 and she just said that loads of people have them so stop stressing. Then she wouldn't discuss it anymore. Know I will get- told you there was nothing to worry about! The thing she doesn't realise is all the stress etc it has caused. Think she will be one of the last to know. Normally we are very close. It's as though she has just blocked this out. X

SweetPeaPods Sat 15-Feb-14 09:56:14

I told boss early last time but as on mat leave going to leave it as long as I can.
Going to tell parents when we see them in a few weeks.
I've told a couple of friends as needed to tell someone. I'm excited but also scared about mc.

SweetPeaPods Sat 15-Feb-14 09:57:59

Milly sorry your mums not been very supportive. It's sometimes difficult for them to realise what it's like I think if they haven't experienced it. Even DH, he gets upset but obviously doesn't have the hormone changes etc too.

juniorcakeoff Sat 15-Feb-14 14:09:24

Congratulations all those with positive scans and thinking of those of you who are experiencing scary stuff, I wish there was some way of knowing or predicting that things will be okay or not. The uncertainty is bloody painful.

I thought I would share my insane worry of the day and hope you can all slap me and tell me not to be stupid. Am currently 8 weeks. Have loads of sickness, all the other stuff. Yet am worried because I do not need to wee a lot. And stomach flat except bloating, should I be able to feel uterus? Sure with my first that I did but maybe not until 9/10 weeks? Can't remember with 2nd or 3rd pg. Can anyone help?

Sorry for being an idiot when other people have real worries.

squizita Sat 15-Feb-14 18:08:27

Junior I have only just started to wee loads and I am 10 week (& had a good 8 week scan). Also only getting stretching pains for a fortnight. Hope that's reassuring!

JBrd Sun 16-Feb-14 11:32:26

I never weed a lot in any of my pregnancies, successful or unsuccessful. I've also never felt my uterus (but to be honest, I never tried to!). Everyone is different. Are you drinking lots?

Brown discharge has increased again, and today I have a backache. I am beside myself with fear, this is going exactly like in all my previous mcs.
EPU won't be doing anything, so I don't think I will call them just yet. But wondering if I can try to book an early scan directly, or if it has to come from the midwife. I'm 7 weeks today, so would like one in a week's time...

allisgood1 Sun 16-Feb-14 13:14:41

Another one that doesn't wee loads until baby is so big it's pushing on my bladder.

jbrd a side effect of progesterone suppositories is spotting. I learned this in my last pregnancy when I had brown spotting, freaked out, and went to epu. Then a friend who had IVF had the same thing happen to her. We were both told its a side effect of the suppositories. I didn't have any this time (knock on wood), but I still had a successful pregnancy last time. I would also think the fact that it's not getting heavier is a good sign and more likely to be a side effect.

Nausea has ramped up again since Friday. I have eaten wheat though when I should be gluten free so I think that's a lot of it. Booking appointment finally came through for Friday with a scan the following Thursday. OMG I'm so close to 12 weeks...so scared but trying to be hopeful. I'm getting a bump, which I hope means good things!

Ive started to get sinus pain under my right eye today which I know is the start of a sinus infection...GP tomorrow before it gets worse I think!

fedupofrainydays Sun 16-Feb-14 18:01:21

I'm scared today as my nephew launched himself at me today and my lower belly took quite a hit. I know everything is protected in there but I can't help but worry.

I also look pregnant. My bloating is ridiculous. Doesn't even go down over night now. I know it's bloating and not bump cos at 6 weeks that's ridiculous / impossible plus can't feel uterus but not sure I ever have!!

I am a big wee-er anyway and this preg is no more than usual. So nothing changed. But it's usually when there is someone squashing my bladder when I get that urge to wee every 5 mins!

You can book a private scan jbrd yourself. Or if you are still having the brown discharge the EPU will see you as they like to check out any blood. I thought they wouldn't see me when I had brown blood at almost 5 weeks and they called me in. Just try them... See what they say.

TheBuggerlugs Sun 16-Feb-14 18:13:29

Jbrd I'm also on progesterone and yes they can irritate your cervix. You can use your back dog if you prefer which solves the irritation and mess problem.

Rainydays I'm also bloated to chuffed but that's due to my ginormo-ovaries after the IVF. I can see them protruding through my tummy!

I'm a but behind everyone else as I'm only 4w5d. I have a scan on the 28th....how on earth do I stay sane between now and then?!

TheBuggerlugs Sun 16-Feb-14 18:13:52

Back door, not back dog. That would be just weird grin

squizita Sun 16-Feb-14 19:17:56

Jbird fx it is just the pessaries irritating you, and that the EPU will see you.

Fedup I wee a lot at the best of times too. Slightly worried how bad a wee-er I might become!!

Absolutely knackered today with slight nausea and stupid emosh feelings of dread. All of which I guess are symptoms - my scan is Tuesday I think I'm just getting myself worked up.

Our neighbour's wall got blown down Friday night into our garden, too. Perhaps lack of sleep is adding to tiredness. Thankfully it's all in hand!

tannyLoo Sun 16-Feb-14 20:26:00

Jbrd I think the fact it's not increased is a good sign. Just a complete bitch you can't get EPU support. Fx for you.

I'm having a hopeful day. Can we import some fish? I am in need of a slap across my deluded chops.

I've been siversmithing all weekend to distract myself. It has helped.

And totally unrelated but I have come down with tonsillitis too.

Scan and an end to all the roller coaster emotions on Thursday, and I don't think I'll be going back to work before then.

I hope everyone continues to do well.

nearlyreadytopop Sun 16-Feb-14 20:43:05

silversmithing tanny that sounds fantastic! Did you make something nice? I'm thinking of trying crochet as an evening switch off /distraction but recently I haven't been awake long enough.
I am 12 weeks tomorrow. And a scan booked for Tuesday. I booked it for the evening so dh could attend but now I'm wishing it was first thing. I've been feeling pretty rubbish today with what I think were palpitations and then dizziness on standing. Nausea is coming and going now instead of all day. I actually can't believe I've got to this stage.

SweetPeaPods Sun 16-Feb-14 21:42:11

Exhausted here too. I also keep getting dizzy/light headed. Not sure if it's worth making a dr appt? Possibly low bp?
I've tried to start knitting but once ds has gone to bed I'm just too tired. I've bought the wool now though so I'm determined to knit something!

juniorcakeoff Sun 16-Feb-14 22:02:41

Thanks allisgood and squizita. The MW said in my last pg that I won't relax until the baby is born, so I guess I just have to accept this anxiety and try to laugh off the worst of the madness. tannyloo wet fish slaps may help all round. Distraction ideas are good, I have loads of work on which is weirdly helping. Jbird I hope things ease up for you and you find someone to help, maybe EPU could do HCG tests?

Millysdream Mon 17-Feb-14 07:36:58

Think anxiety comes with the territory for us ladies. Let's just hope it gets easier the further along we get. Have finally convinced hubby to have the next scan and check for downs syndrome. Am going to ring up and book the scan later today. Tempted to ask for early next week but seeing as only had a scan last thu I should hold out longer as it will make it easier to wait till the 16 week scan they have given me. Don't want one at 13 weeks. I had 3 miscarriages in 2013 so have suddenly become very superstitious !!!
If I leave it till thu next week it will be 12w5d and next scan is going to be 15w5d (which will feel like a lifetime).

TinyTear Mon 17-Feb-14 10:54:41

Less than 24 hours to my scan...

Millysdream Mon 17-Feb-14 12:17:39

Hope you are feeling positive about it tinywishing you lots of luck. What time is your scan? X

TinyTear Mon 17-Feb-14 12:30:08

it's in the morning, 9h45 am

i am positive as i feel different to last mc but i don't want to have my hopes up...

i have been a terror to my husband as i am really moody and scared....

SweetPeaPods Mon 17-Feb-14 13:26:18

Thinking of you tiny.
Mine is on wed morning, and I'm terrified. But feeling a little positive as I'm feeling nauseous and constantly dizzy/light headed but we'll just have to wait and see.

JBrd Mon 17-Feb-14 13:53:32

Good luck for your scans tiny and sweet Hope the time passes quickly for you until then.

My brown discharge seems to have stopped, also no cramping since yesterday... Feeling more positive today (although still walking on egg shells and constantly knicker-checking. I never knew how many shades of brown you could find in your cm...confused), very apprehensive. DH is away next week, and I'm worried about what to do regarding an early scan - have it when he's away and then potentially having to face bad news on my own, or wait until he is back, i.e. 2 more weeks?! Argh.

fedupofrainydays Mon 17-Feb-14 14:18:36

My scan is tomorrow too. I'm annoyed as my mum was like 'oh you will have to take time off work'. Well yes mum. They only offered me tues or thurs and I work both those days. She also banged on at me about getting a job that doesn't exist. Wish she lived in the real world sometimes.

Sounds like there is a few scans next day or so. Hope all good news! I feel mixed, positive one minute, negative the next. Mine is only really a location scan so not expecting to see much as only 6 weeks. Just hope it's all there in the right place!

mum2kiss Mon 17-Feb-14 14:25:00

Hey all smile Sounds like everyone seems to be doing ok at the moment aside from the inevitable worry!

Not much going on here although the mild cramping and pink spotting seems to have stopped since friday. Its half term and I have the week off. I wonder if the generally relaxation from the routine and being able to slob around in comfortable clothing has helped! Really starting to think my work trousers were the source of the tummy pain.

we went over to dps parents for dinner on saturday and his dad poured me a glass of wine! (Awkward!!!). I just pretended to sip it for the toast and then left it on the table lol!

Tumtimes1 Mon 17-Feb-14 14:38:40

Good luck Fedup and Tinytears* for tomorrow's scans and Sweetpea for wednesday.

xx

JBrd Mon 17-Feb-14 17:26:01

I now have a scan on Saturday, gulp. Will be 7+6 then, so hopefully, it will be clear.

My lovely midwife called and immediately suggested that I should have one, I didn't even have to ask. She then called me back after 5 min to let me know the date and time.
Good timing, too - after thinking I'm OK now, I found red blood on the tissue after going for a wee. I swear my heart stopped sad

mum2kiss Mon 17-Feb-14 17:32:47

Great timing for the scan jbrd I'm sure everything is fine though, this whole spotting thing is just here to ensure we lose the final scraps of our sanity!

Tumtimes1 Mon 17-Feb-14 20:21:47

Hello again, I have a quick questions: Does anyone recommend bothering with a doppler or will it just make me more insane and anxious that usual? I'm thinking the latter.

Also, I haven't got my booking in scan until the 4th March. Iroinically the same date AND TIME as my appointment at St Mary's RMC. I don't want to cancel RMC just in case. shall I call the booking in dept and ask to change it? Plus that booking in app is the 4th march when i would be exactly 12 weeks. Isn't that a bit late to see the mid wife? (My 12 week scan is on the 6th March so that sounds ok to me.)

juniorcakeoff Mon 17-Feb-14 21:27:25

I debated a doppler loads in my last PG but I knew it wouldn't help me. Firstly, iin my pregnancy I lost baby had a heartbeat which was found with a doppler when my waters had already broken and she was already in trouble - medics took no action as a heartbeat was found, but had they scanned me they'd have found waters gone and partial abruption. The doppler just finds a heartbeat in that moment and on that date. Secondly, I knew there would be times I wouldn't find it or I would think it was fast or slow and spend hours googling average heart rates etc. Thirdly, it gives a false sense of security (see above). Baby movements are a better guide.

Having said all that, I am debating one again just for the bit up to when the baby starts moving because I am an idiot smile

Booking in - varies imo. Round here they tried to book me in at 6 weeks - Get lost, in my view I'm not even pregnant till I've seen a baby on a scan with a heartbeat! Where I used to live - booking in appointment after 12 week scan. Makes more sense to me.

SweetPeaPods Mon 17-Feb-14 21:36:02

I debated a Doppler in last pg but I knew if I didn't hear a hb I would really worry. Labour/epu wards hate them. They say they cause more false alarms than actually picking up problems, some people pick up their own and think everything's ok, and it's movements we should be looking for. My last pg has anterior placenta too so my chances of getting hb even lower. Obviously until we get to that stage nothing we can really do. With regards to movements it's patterns they are looking for, not a certain number of kicks but has there been a change to usual pattern.

tannyLoo Mon 17-Feb-14 22:16:05

Sorry everyone. Its finally started. MC number 5. Spotting and pain. Will hang around for a while just to make sure you're all ok.
Shitbuckets sad

Millysdream Tue 18-Feb-14 07:48:10

tanny am gutted for you. Sending you lots of love and hugs xxx

TinyTear Tue 18-Feb-14 08:05:40

So sorry tanny
Big big hugs for you...
xxx

I have my scan in 2 hours... it will either be child 2 or mc 5

fedupofrainydays Tue 18-Feb-14 08:13:30

Oh tanny I'm gutted for you too. Shit buckets. Hope you are ok. Mc 5 is scary and I so admire you for your strength to carry on. Although it prob just feels like the motions... Xxx

My scan is this pm and feeling sick with nerves (not Ms). Had horrid dream about it last night that I woke up in panic. Good luck tiny

SweetPeaPods Tue 18-Feb-14 08:43:26

Tanny so sorry. Big hugs and hope you have lots of support around you.
Fedup & tiny good luck for scans, Fx for you both.

tannyLoo Tue 18-Feb-14 08:57:08

Tiny and Fedup good luck with your scans. We need to hear about fluttering heartbeats...

Bleeding is heavier today. Staying put and watching reruns of star trek voyager. And killing teenage son if he doesn't tidy his pit.

This has been such a long time coming that now it's here I feel a mixture of heart thumping sadness and relief.

TinyTear Tue 18-Feb-14 09:54:52

Heartbeat seen and measuring 6 and half weeks she said.

Will be scanned again in a couple of weeks. Still not in the clear but further than I've been with the other miscarriages.

JBrd Tue 18-Feb-14 10:06:57

Great news, tiny! Small steps in the right direction - remember that with every good scan, your chances for a good outcome increases.

TaytoCrisp Tue 18-Feb-14 10:12:04

Thinking of you tanny. Such a shame. Sending u a big hug.

Good luck with the scans sweet and fedup !

Scan at 2 today here and a bit nervous. I haven't been on the thread that much as have been trying to not think about the whole thing but getting anxious now. No heartbeat at 5+6 so today is important. Unfortunately had some bright blood this morn, but think it was (tmi alert!) rectal bleeding which can be associated with heparin...according to some websites anyway.. Embarrassing!

Hope everyone else is ok, and hope to hear some good scan outcomes later.

Oh - great news tiny - all sounds good so far. U can take out the pink lemonade after the 8 wk scan! ;-)

TinyTear Tue 18-Feb-14 10:59:22

Good kuck tayto

I am still not in the clear...

Looked at my app where I was marking when we DTD and the dates she mentioned today seem possible. i think after the ERPC i wasn't as regular as before...

In 2 weeks I will actually be seen by the consultant and be scanned again. as i will most likely be consultant led if this goes ahead, I said yes to the consultant when they asked if I wanted the appointment just with the sonographer or the consultant

SweetPeaPods Tue 18-Feb-14 13:20:01

Great news tiny.
Hopefully puts your mind at ease for a little while, or at least until 2mrw?
Last pg they scanned me every wk in first tri. It relaxed me for all of 24 hrs ha! Every thurs I was convinced the hb had stopped or something but thankfully everything was fine. We now have ds. I'm feeling very nervous about my scan 2mrw. Tempted to poas again this afternoon.

nearlyreadytopop Tue 18-Feb-14 13:39:00

tanny I'm so sorry, its just utterly shit.
goodluck for all the scans today and tomorrow. This afternoon is not going quickly enough for me.

fedupofrainydays Tue 18-Feb-14 13:43:32

Sitting in the car park waiting for my appointment at 2. Sick with nerves. By my dates I'm 6 weeks (short cycles) but by NHS I'm 5 + 5. So I'm nervous with what will see. To be honest it will be a relief if there is something there in right place. I know it's normal to not to see a heart beat at this stage too.

Hope the wait isn't too long..... Appointments never run on time here... Eeek.

Good luck tayto

TaytoCrisp Tue 18-Feb-14 14:50:29

Ah, such a relief. Scan showed a little heartbeat measuring 7+4. Still a long way to go though. But Pleased right now.

fedup hope it's going ok. And don't worry if they can't see the heartbeat at such an early stage. As you say the focus will be on position for this scan.

Just in car, must catch up with how people are doing properly later.

mum2kiss Tue 18-Feb-14 15:04:37

Hey all smile

I sorry to hear that tanny sad

Glad to hear todays scans have gone ok.

I now have a permanent sour taste In the back of my mouth so I have a steady stream of butter mints on hand! I am also burping all. Day. Long!! So annoying! I guess I should be glad that im not puking!

Took dd to kids cinema this morning and said she could have a happy meal after. I decided on a double cheeseburger meal...ooooh the heaven!!!! I totally thought it would make.me heave but no it was oh so good!!! Im salivating now just at the thought! The gherkin, onions, ketchup!...fries....oh I need more!

fedupofrainydays Tue 18-Feb-14 15:29:02

What a relief here too. All in right place and flicker of a heart beat too. Cried with relief. Although there is still a long way to go it beats my fears of there being nothing there... Doctor said I'm about 5 + 6 so about what I thought.

Great news tayto

TinyTear Tue 18-Feb-14 15:33:12

Happy for you tayto and fedup

we can have a couple of days of elations, before two more weeks of worry...

when are you having follow up scans?

SweetPeaPods Tue 18-Feb-14 17:14:26

Fedup & Tayto glad your scans went well. I've got everything crossed for mine 2mrw. Should be 6+3 going by my LMP so we'll see.

TheBuggerlugs Tue 18-Feb-14 17:24:46

Congratulations on the good scans Rainydays & Tayto. Mine is next Friday and I'll also be 6+3. To say I'm nervous is probably an understatement. I'm sticking to the 'head in sand' approach at the moment and it seems to be working quite well.

Is anyone else on fragmin and aspirin?

Tumtimes1 Tue 18-Feb-14 17:25:21

Thats brilliant fedup and Tayto so pleased for you both.

Really sorry to hear that things arent looking good Tanny. I'm thinking of you.

In my camp, I should be 10 weeks today. Woke up to yet ANOTHER migraine today with aura. This is now my 4th. I am getting very stressed out with this especially as it is causing issues with me going into work. I went to the doctors today and he thinks that these migraines will not let off for the first trimester so has signed me off for the next two weeks.
Work were surprisingly ok about it, I was so worried. My friend who works in HR says as long as you are signed off and your pregnant there isn't much work can do.
Other than that I keep worrying about the next scan (which isn't until the 3rd) especially with the migraine thing. Plus my sickness seems to have gone away now, is this normal? And I still seem to have stretching pain? Its not actual pain, more of an ache. Plus I am still constipated majorly.

Ugh when will i be able to relax???

JBrd Tue 18-Feb-14 17:26:49

Buggerlugs I am on fragmin, aspirin and progesterone. Really hoping that it will all make a difference, although to be fair, the only 'new' thing this time is the progesterone...

Tumtimes1 Tue 18-Feb-14 17:33:22

buggerlugs I'm on clexane and aspirin, progesterone and steroids x

TheBuggerlugs Tue 18-Feb-14 17:43:09

Were you given any advice about when to take the fragmin and aspirin? I haven't been and take both at night....I've started worrying that I should be taking them 12 hours apart or something. I'm also on the delightful progesterone aka fanny bullets as this is an IVF pregnacny.

juniorcakeoff Tue 18-Feb-14 17:46:16

Fragmin and aspirin and 9 trillion grammes folate here, was on clexane and aspirin but think its the same thing!
Congratulationson successful scans and so so sorry Tanny

JBrd Tue 18-Feb-14 19:00:27

No, I wasn't told when to take what. I've just fallen into doing the fragmin in the morning and the aspirin at night with the folic acid. I don't think that it should make too much of a difference, due to the different administration routes.
I switched to doing the progesterone as suppositories, as I'm worrying they might be causing the spotting...

TheBuggerlugs Tue 18-Feb-14 19:03:57

Good idea. I started off using them like that but switched to vaginal after a couple of days as I was so constipated from the tablets I was on to stop OHSS. I'm terrified of spotting so might alternate where I shove em.

squizita Tue 18-Feb-14 19:11:41

sad Oh no, Tanny, so sorry to hear it looks bad.

Glad to hear scans went well tayto and Fedup.

My scan also went well: measuring 10+2 (I'm 10+2!), placenta etc' forming normally and the all important heartbeat. Got seen by the nurse, not the consultant as it transpires I am to be handed over to ante-natal from RMC. Big step. Eeek!

We went to GBK after. I did the annoying pregnant woman thing and asked the hapless teen at the counter "I take it your blue cheese sauce is pasteurised" he was like "Erm it comes in a big catering jar so I think so!". grin

TaytoCrisp Tue 18-Feb-14 20:30:32

Very Good news squiz - sounds like everything is progressing nicely.

Great news fedup too - nice to see a heartbeat! Momentary relief at least.

tum those migraines sound terribly severe - u poor thing. Good to have the drs letter, and hope it eases soon.

Another one on fragmin here buggerlugs, and I'm not sure whether I should be on aspirin or not! Had both last time. Local consultant recommends aspirin and heparin but st Mary's seem to decide on aspirin depending on the teg test result..and I haven't had that yet. So I don't know.. Hmmm..maybe I should ask again.. In any case I just take the heparin in the morning to have it done with. Dont think it matters.

tanny thinking of u.

fedupofrainydays Tue 18-Feb-14 20:45:12

Does anyone get sore after a date with the willy-cam? I'm feeling sore down there and it's got me all worried, but want to put it down to having a dildo like instrument shoved up me?

tum glad to hear work are being understanding and think a good thing you have been signed off. Hope they get better soon though as sounds really horrible.

Glad scan was good too squiz

nearlyreadytopop Tue 18-Feb-14 21:05:15

Big sigh of relief, all well at my scan. Measuring 12 weeks, feeling pretty happy but I'm wondering how long it will lastsmile

TaytoCrisp Tue 18-Feb-14 21:24:21

It's terribly uncomfortable fedup. I was like a balloon today to avoid it; the sonographer praised me for my extremely full bladder! Its the only way after the last willy-cam experience!

Great news nearly, let's try and eek a few days of tempered relief out of this! wink

Millysdream Wed 19-Feb-14 06:15:44

Lots of good news today ladies. Pleased for everyone with a positive scan. Have a few relaxing days before you start the countdown till your next scan. Mine is 1 week today then hopefully will be 12w4d. I am surprisingly calm at the moment. Think the last scan has helped me more than I thought it would. Not obsessing about lack of symptoms anymore either as just not had many throughout.

tanny sending you hugs x

fedupofrainydays Wed 19-Feb-14 06:36:31

tayto I'm told to wee before the scan so no chances of that! Fortunately the pain has stopped now.

tanny how are you doing? Please still talk to us here, and feel free to rant as we all know how fucking shit it is. Am thinking of you

TinyTear Wed 19-Feb-14 08:35:24

I was also told to wee, but i prefer the dildocam as i have too much padding and would be worried they couldn't see much externally

SweetPeaPods Wed 19-Feb-14 18:11:23

All good at today's scan, little flickering hb smile

fedupofrainydays Wed 19-Feb-14 18:51:38

Yay sweet great news!

TinyTear Wed 19-Feb-14 20:15:41

Yay!

tannyLoo Wed 19-Feb-14 21:34:19

I'm pleased to hear about all the fluttering heartbeats, despite having some dark "why not me?" thoughts.

Next bit is TMI so feel free to skip

I've been completely wiped out all day today with some heavy cramps and bleeding and I passed the sac and wee bean this afternoon. Just sat holding it for a while. Then wrapped it up and flushed it away. That little longed-for bunch of cells is gone...

End of TMI, I promise

Now my bleeding has nearly stopped, and I can't help wondering if the lack of endometrium is linked to this possible APS type thing I might have.

I'm going for a scan tomorrow and will see a consultant. So many emotions and questions that I don't know where to start...

TheBuggerlugs Wed 19-Feb-14 21:38:08

Tanny sadly everyone on this thread has been in that exact same position and my heart goes out to you massively. The worst of the physical bit may be done but don't be too hard on yourself or rush into anything. Your emotions need looking after thanks

fedupofrainydays Wed 19-Feb-14 22:02:44

Oh tanny it's so horrible and still so very unfair. We can all identify with the 'why not me' thoughts too. I hope the professionals are helpful tomorrow but as lugs suggested, go easy on yourself re the emotional aspects.

I had a little cry when I read your post too - it really dredged up all the feelings I went through with my miscarriages, and I so wish it wasn't happening to you again. I'm also so scared it will happen to me again and emotionally not sure I could hack it. But I said that after the first... And I did cope. So you will get back on the case again and you will get through it but I can also acknowledge just how fucking shit and really tough it is. thanks

JBrd Wed 19-Feb-14 22:14:34

Oh, tanny. My heart goes out to you, it's just awful. So much hope gets invested every time, just to get crushed again, it's brutal. We all know how you feel.
Take good care of yourself, don't rush anything <<hugs>>

fedupofrainydays Thu 20-Feb-14 07:31:47

Does anyone else get night sweats? It's my paranoia today.woke up in night all sweaty and I've only had this before when miscarried or post birth of my son. Just stressing its a sign it's all going to end. Maybe ridiculous but I can't help it!

TinyTear Thu 20-Feb-14 08:12:33

So so sorry tanny
I know I am still not in the clear, a heartbeat at 6 weeks just means 78% chance of all being well... and with 4 mc behind me, I am not feeling positive... just scared...

We have all had the why me moments... Especially seeing all the people due in June - my last one...

i hope the scan today and talking with the consultant will bring some answers...

TheBuggerlugs Thu 20-Feb-14 08:55:46

Rainy I think your temps increase when pregnant hence the term 'bun in the oven'. I'm a lot warmer at night that's for sure.

squizita Thu 20-Feb-14 09:27:29

Tanny How awfully, awfully sad. Hope the consultant sorts you out and you never have to go through it again. sad Take it easy.

Fed up yep and I was stressed cause I thought I was ill. I just go hot n cold!

SweetPeaPods Thu 20-Feb-14 13:57:46

Tiny my consultant said a hb at 6 weeks has a 95 percent chance of getting past 12 weeks safely.
A hb at 12 weeks has a 98 percent chance.

TinyTear Thu 20-Feb-14 14:06:35

Really Sweet?

I always read 78% at 6w. It may be true in most pregnancies but probably not with my history... don't want to think of high chances... after the 8w scan then I will dare to hope

http://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/information/ultrasound-scans/

Research has shown that if you see a heartbeat at 6 weeks of pregnancy, the chances of the pregnancy continuing are 78%.

A heartbeat at 8 weeks increases the chance of a continuing pregnancy to 98% and at 10 weeks that goes up to 99.4%.

So things could still go wrong and sadly sometimes do, but as long as there is a heartbeat, the risk of miscarriage decreases as the weeks go by.

squizita Thu 20-Feb-14 14:12:52

Tiny I had a complete arse of a doc at the RMC at 6 weeks, basically so he could feel cleverer than Mr Rai (who had said with my history and known condition, 70% at 6 wks) he drawled 'well if you asked me... erm 60, 65%'. Scared me half to death, why had it gone down.

Made no difference at the 8 and 10 week scans where the chances progressed up nicely exactly as I'd been told to expect by Mr Rai for a clexane-pregnancy. But DH wanted to complain. It was clearly macho-man posturing contradicting the 'big boy' having never read my notes which (I saw) said 'very anxious, be positive and optimistic'.

nearlyreadytopop Thu 20-Feb-14 14:22:36

My 12 week scan 'glow' lasted approximately 1 daysad . One of my mc was missed mc at 17 weeks, the baby had stopped growing at 13 weeks. I'm terrifying myself with thoughts that it will happen again.
The logic part of my head says its a very different preg this time but its so so hard. I have to tell my boss tomorrow and I know he will be supportive but it just feels like we have been in this situation so many times before.

TinyTear Thu 20-Feb-14 14:35:29

squiz I can imagine!

I saw Mr Rai when I went to St Mary's back in 2011, he was great - quite good and straight to the point...

If anything he seemed a but too "trying hard to be friendly" at times which seemed artificial as if he had been told in a review to improve his 'bedside manner' so to speak grin - I prefered when he was being straight to the point but never arrogant

TinyTear Thu 20-Feb-14 14:36:43

Aww nearly
Hope the weeks fly by for you...

All my mcs were early ones, so I will relax after the next scan (a little bit)

Would a doppler be good for you? i know it would make me paranoid but might help reassure you...

nearlyreadytopop Thu 20-Feb-14 14:52:40

thanks tiny I am still surprised that I have made it this far! Have had two earlier ones as well as a successful preg. Trying to compare this pregnancy to the one that produced ds does help.
I think I would drive myself mad with a dopplergrin . I've a hospital scan at 14 weeks, midwife at 16 and then if I get that far I will book a private reassurance scan at 18 weeks before the big one at 20. So trying to take it two weeks at a time.

Tumtimes1 Thu 20-Feb-14 14:58:48

Speaking of further reassurance scans I have just booked a private reassurance scan for next Monday. I would be 10w 6d. I think I have exhausted my NHS scans (x5 so far) so thought I should probably go private for this next one. I am struggling big time with the worry and I feel that this would definitely help if it was ok Then my 12 week scan is the following Monday.

i am currently signed off for 2 weeks owing to my migraines with aura which are pregnancy related it seems and sporadic. Did anyone else on here say they suffer with these?

Tanny thinking of you xxx

nearlyreadytopop Thu 20-Feb-14 15:36:12

I have had my first migraine recently. It was so sore.
I paid for a babybond quick assurance one and it was the best £39 ever spent. I will happily pay it again if I can't get another one on the nhs.

TaytoCrisp Thu 20-Feb-14 19:06:57

Sounds like scan central here! grin. I've never felt that reassured by a scan as I had routine scans at 13 and 22 weeks, but an mc a few days after both..(.Thanks to thrombophelia, cervix damage and bad luck), But I can see that they can be reassuring, especially with missed mc.. I did get a day or two of relief this week though so I should focus on that.

Feeling rather nauseous and tired today, and waiting for short haul flight. would like a bag o crip but better wait til I feel better!

Wishing everyone an eventless few days!

tanny sending a special wish and hug your way.

allisgood1 Thu 20-Feb-14 19:46:20

tum I get migraines. Luckily, not so much in pregnancy but have had 3 this time so far. I take Imigran, which is class C, so nothing proven that its safe or dangerous. I have actually read a lot of research about it lately and felt confident that the chance of miscarriage was low enough (especially as its not a regularly taken med) that I felt ok taking it. My dr was in agreement with me. I do find that my physio was able to get on top of my migraines (pre-pregnancy) to the point that they went away completely. Is it possible for you to see a physio or chiropractor?

tanny so sad for you. I hope your consultant gets a plan in place for next time so hopefully you never have to go thru this again.

I have the midwife tomorrow. Scan a week from today. I haven't had one since 8+3 and I can feel the dread creeping back in. Does anyone know the chances of mmc after seeing the hb (a good strong rate as I made them check!)? I am feeling quite weak and tired these days, and am starting to convince myself theres something seriously wrong as I just feel SO dreadful! Im sure having a toddler and 5 year old who keep me on my feet doesn't help...

TheBuggerlugs Thu 20-Feb-14 20:06:25

Evening all. Hope everyone is staying sane. I'm 5+2 today and am resisting the urge to get a digital in a few days test to (hopefully) see the 3+.....has anyone else been doing these tests to see them progress?

In my 2nd pregnancy I did one when I was 6weeks something and only got a 2-3weeks and it was the first indication of something being wrong. I miscarried a week or so later.

squizita Thu 20-Feb-14 20:13:31

Allis After 8 weeks I think it's down to about 2% or so, pretty low! FX for you.

Buggerlugs I kept away as I was worried things like how diluted my wee was would change the result and send me in a tizzy! They look all fancy but the basic mechanism is the same and hydration makes a big difference.

TheBuggerlugs Thu 20-Feb-14 20:17:46

Phew, glad I'm not the only one resisting. I have better stuff to spend a tenner on. I've probably spent close to £500 on sticks to pee on since starting ttc 3 years ago. I just wish my scan would hurry up but I'm also dreading it.

Tumtimes1 Thu 20-Feb-14 21:33:56

buggerlugs I did did the dreaded dig's and when I didn't get a 3+ when I expected to I felt shit. Then I got one a few days later. My advice to you is to not bother but easier said than done isn't it.

allsgooed are your migraines with aura and any visual disturbances? I am always on constant baby aspirin as a preventative measure and in normal life (i.e. not preggo) seems to work, but when I am pregnant i still get them but they are MUCH milder. i.e.: I don't end up vomming.

fedupofrainydays Thu 20-Feb-14 22:14:26

lugs same experience with me and the digis as you with my last mc, so with this preg I've not tested at all since my bfp (did two on same day at that's it). I almost did test last Wednesday but knew I couldn't really do anything if the line was faint or the digi didn't say the right conception indicator. So I haven't!

Managed to stop stressing about the night sweats. Just hope it doesn't happen again tonight. I'm like a schizophrenic - fine one minute and totally nutty and obsessing the next.

I never get headaches - only when pregnant or hungover! So I can't identify with a migrane but they sound so horrid. I hope they go away soon alls as sound pretty debilitating and prob don't help as don't give you a distraction from obsessing about symptoms and crotch watch

ldt87 Fri 21-Feb-14 08:59:46

Hey everyone, just checking in, still pregnant lol. I've been reading but not posting as I had some brown spotting on Monday and I was driving myself insane

i have an early scan next Friday at 7+4, 6+4 today. My spotting was only a small amount when I wiped, nothing on a pad and nothing since Monday. I'm trying to be positive now xx

ldt87 Fri 21-Feb-14 09:00:44

I also got a horrid migraine yesterday, blurred vision, numbness in my hand the full works xx

squizita Fri 21-Feb-14 10:07:15

Ldt FX, sounds like it's just spotting. Glad it's cleared up.

ldt87 Fri 21-Feb-14 10:10:37

Thanks squiz, I hope so, I am having sickness and sore boobs now so I'm really hoping it was just a one off. I think I've had a uti, so not sure if that would have aggravated everything xx