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June 2014 -Thread 8- 20 week scans, gender reveals... Halfway through!

(993 Posts)
GillyBillyWilly Thu 16-Jan-14 14:46:03

Jump in the new thread ladies!!!! smile

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 14:49:40

Woohoo

Mitchell2 Thu 16-Jan-14 14:55:01

Thanks!

SleepyNess Thu 16-Jan-14 15:11:58

Oops I just posted in the old thread! smile

GillyBillyWilly Thu 16-Jan-14 15:14:41

Looks like this is the most updated list... Feel free to update and add baby's gender and any other details if you like! smile

Ie next to my name I have put DC1 as this is my first child. And gender?? as we aren't finding out the gender smile

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver
Jessiebaba

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Biffle Thu 16-Jan-14 15:34:07

Looks like this is the most updated list... Feel free to update and add baby's gender and any other details if you like!

Ie next to my name I have put DC1 as this is my first child. And gender?? as we aren't finding out the gender

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga
Biffle - DC3 / Find out gender on 7th Feb smile

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico

Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver
Jessiebaba

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Have updated with my amended EDD smile and marking my place x

Jessiebaba Thu 16-Jan-14 15:35:34

Thread 8 already! We are a chatty bunch! shock

My due date has changed so I've updated the list smile

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Jessiebaba Thu 16-Jan-14 15:41:33

In response to comment on the old thread...

Sleepy I feel EXACTLY the same! Today is the first day I've been getting a sore bum but OMG, this morning it was SO sore! And I've got a sore neck and back too sad All I'm doing is looking at spreadsheets as well and I am a geek and usually love that but recently I've been struggling to stay awake looking at them. Think I'm going to try and sneak home in about half an hour...

Riblet Thu 16-Jan-14 15:47:12

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Mitchell2 Thu 16-Jan-14 15:49:15

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Riblet Thu 16-Jan-14 15:50:46

Sleepy and Jessie - completely agree. Have been trying to adjust my work chair as bum, back and shoulders have been aching but hasn't helped. Could probably sit up a bit straighter though- trainer at antenatal fitness is always going on about posture so may well be time to take notice!

Much better night's sleep last night - didn't use any support around bump or back but only seem to need to prop bump up on some nights and not others. Suspect being so tired from night before helped.

Jessiebaba Thu 16-Jan-14 15:57:20

I think I might actually ask for a new chair. I've not had my desk assesment yet (which you're supposed to get when they find out your pregnant) and will be very surprised if I don't have to just organise it myself (my manager is lovely but worse than useless when it comes to things like that!). I was on secondment in a different department until a few weeks ago and when I returned, I was left with the oldest, scabbiest chair there is! Although if others are feeling uncomfortable too, maybe it's not the chair.

Riblet Thu 16-Jan-14 16:14:01

It'd be worth a go anyway - might not just be the chair but can't hurt to have a new one smile

superlambanana Thu 16-Jan-14 16:14:53

My due date has changed to 23rd but am on my phone so I'll update later.

Sleepy yes!!! Lost my mojo... Doesn't help I've had a bit of a confidence knock - my previous bully of a boss really made me doubt myself and it's had a lasting effect, so now I've got it in my head that my current boss thinks my colleague (who I'm senior to) is way better than me, because she said she thought she was good. I know it's irrational, I'm really pleased that she is good because she's only been there three months and it helps me that she's great, but my brain has interpreted this as everyone thinks she's good and I'm rubbish. Doesn't help that she told me she will go for my mat leave if they offer it - which she's quite entitled to do of course, but I'm just worried they won't want me back!! Apparently my boss told her they might not even cover me and may spread the work across the team - no idea how that would work because everyone is working at full capacity as it is and things still don't get done...!

Just had my midwife appt. Didn't get to listen to the heartbeat though as they won't do it! Boo!!

BEEwitched Thu 16-Jan-14 16:28:35

bezzabelle Congratulations! We sure have a lot of boys on here!

I was actually looking forward to going back to work in two weeks time, my GP is going to write me a sick note to release me for limited duty - but I had a blinding headache all morning and just spent three blissful hours sleeping. Bah!

pomdereplay Thu 16-Jan-14 16:38:20

I am completely useless updating the list on mobile but my due date has changed quite a bit, to the 16th June and we are having another little girl. smile

My teeny little nearly 2 year old is going to be a big sister! Starting to sink in now after a rather fraught 18-some weeks.

Not been the easiest pregnancy so far so I haven't checked into the last couple of threads. Hopefully it's ok to jump back in now.

Brazza, well done on scan, fab news smile
Sleepy I feel exactly the same. I'm wiped out with work and kids. I've been signed off this week as not been well and dreading going back next week.
Just counted up how many shifts I've got til mat leave and it's 43. I can do this! PMA

Oops sorry that's Bezza! And congratulations pomder and hope your feeling better smile

MarlenaGru Thu 16-Jan-14 16:52:41

Sleepy and jessie I am the same. My bottom kills me after a day's spreadsheet staring! I am definitely getting more achy too. 18 more weeks of work hmm although I am on holiday for one so 17 more!

Expectingtwins1975 Thu 16-Jan-14 17:07:48

Ive added myself in smile

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
pomdereplay
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver
Expectingtwins1975 - DC1&2 boy and girl

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Expectingtwins1975 Thu 16-Jan-14 17:10:19

Riblet - really dot know what tandem I'm going to go for - most likely choices are baby jogger city select, icandy,bugaboo or mountain buggy duet - too many choices!!!!

Expectingtwins1975 Thu 16-Jan-14 17:10:41

Oops dot = don't

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 17:12:50

I've added myself - another boy and pomdereplay

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds
Sareva - DC3/boy

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl
pomdereplay - DC2/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 17:14:35

But x posted with expectingtwins! Okay going to add you to this last one expectingtwins

Liquidambar Thu 16-Jan-14 17:15:30

Congratulations bezz :-) and you too pom

sleepy my levels of productivity have been low... and it's hard to sit all day. I need to complete a risk assessment because i will be doing somw field work and I was reading that I could talk to my health and safety adviser to discuss some options to be more comfortable at work : e.g. new chair. I also laughed that they actually wrote something along this lines: pregnant women require more frequent toilet visits and they havethe right to leave their work space as often as they need. :-)

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 17:17:04

I've added myself - another boy and pomdereplay

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds
Sareva - DC3/boy

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl
pomdereplay - DC2/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver
Expectingtwins1975 - DC1&2 boy and girl

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 17:17:46

And expectingtwins as I x posted with her

Expectingtwins1975 Thu 16-Jan-14 17:43:33

Ta

Redcliff Thu 16-Jan-14 17:45:24

Those with bad backs on office jobs - I have found a foot rest makes all the difference . Last time my back was so bad I thought I would have to be signed off work and as soon as I got a foot rest it disappeared. Have made sure I got one this time and can really feel it if I sit somewhere else for the day,

Also had my midwife appointment today and was a bit gutted to not hear the heartbeat. Rest was fine - roll on scan in a couple of weeks .

SleepyNess Thu 16-Jan-14 17:57:41

So relieved I'm not alone!!! I'm due for a work space assessment, although I have a good chair my posture is rubbish but I can't seem to help it... feel so tired in the afternoons.. But I'm going to ask to swap desks because mine is in the hottest spot in the whole office. I'm coveting a really nicely located desk at the corner of the office, by the window and with lots of privacy (that might not help my productivity though.. <blushes> ). Someone won't be happy but I hope they'll struggle to refuse a pregnant lady! It's only for 4 m

ChicaMomma Thu 16-Jan-14 17:58:04

I'm due June 19th but loathe to update the list to clog up the thread again!!

Cannot believe we are almost half way there.. getting a bump now which is exciting.
have my 18 week appt in the morning, going to get my Hemoglobin checked as have been wrecked- started on the iron tablets last week so it has improved a bit!

TRYING to exercise every day, i know this is so important for labour! Did a 30 min walk at lunch time today and did pilates Monday/yoga tuesday. So a very good week on the exercise front!

We will have babies THIS YEAR ladies!!

SleepyNess Thu 16-Jan-14 17:58:14

Ooh! ...4 months anyway! smile

Sussex31 Thu 16-Jan-14 18:42:27

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds
Sareva - DC3/boy

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl
pomdereplay - DC2/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing
Sussex31 - DC1/Girl

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic
ChicaMomma

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver
Expectingtwins1975 - DC1&2 boy and girl

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhands

Sussex31 Thu 16-Jan-14 18:46:30

Fingers crossed I did that right...added ChicaMomma and updated my entry smile

I did an antenatal fitness class on Tuesday and my legs are still very achy! Shows how embarrassingly unfit I am. It was good fun though and I feel like I am doing something at least.

jaykay987 Thu 16-Jan-14 18:48:42

4 months? Scarey! grin

Jessiebaba Thu 16-Jan-14 19:07:03

Ah Redcliff I had wondered if a foot rest might make a difference, I'll definitely try one out and see if it helps - thanks for the recommendation! smile

Sleepy I sit at a freezing cold desk right at the window with lots of privacy (hence why I'm sometimes posting on here when I really should be working) anyway, I hate being cold. I can't wait until the 'hot' pregnancy feeling kicks in so I can enjoy my cold seat!

SleepyNess Thu 16-Jan-14 19:18:59

Jessie, ha hah! Grass is always greener, hey? smile I feel hot most of the time though.. And it's not like I can put a jumper on to get better AND everyone walks behind me which I don't like at all :P

wispaxmas Thu 16-Jan-14 19:29:17

Marking my place!

Vickyvix Thu 16-Jan-14 19:46:17

Ah congrats bezzabelle wispa and MrsCharlie and pomder smile

Good luck tomorrow gilly - and thanks for the new thread.

sleepy that's totally how I feel about work. I have lost all motivation but I am so busy and by the time I get home I am so tired. My bum has been hurting from sitting down these last few days but I have been worried it's because I am getting heavier .......and yes, my snacking at work is totally out of control!

Counting down the days. I'm actually off work on holiday next week, cannot come round quick enough!

I'll wait to update the list once we've had scan and know gender grin

MarlenaGru Thu 16-Jan-14 20:59:54

I have a foot rest but it doesn't seem to help much. Although I do struggle to use it! I keep kicking it and fiddling with it. Last time I found a yoga block helped my bottom! No idea where I put it though.

Bezzabelle Thu 16-Jan-14 21:10:28

Well time to get it all out..... After the initial high of the scan, I am now having a slight panic about the thought of having two children. Had a hard afternoon with ds who was very demanding, whiny and generally hard work. But generally he is a lovely little boy who eats pretty well, goes to bed without any problems, sleeps all night (took 18 months to sleep through though!!) adapts to most situations well and is nice with other kids so I am lucky. However now wondering how I can go back to sleepness nights, feeding, teething, constant illnesses, possible colic, weaning etc etc and with a little boy to deal with at the same time! Any me time is going to go totally out the window! Don't know why this has suddenly hit me and know I'm sounding totally ungrateful as am very lucky to have what I have but don't feel I can air this in RL and its all whirling around in my head....anyone else having this panic??

Vickyvix Thu 16-Jan-14 21:22:03

bezza that's the great thing about MN, it's not RL and we're all listening so let it all out.

I don't have and children, this is DC1 on the way so really cannot offer any real life experience type advice. But from what you say you have done a splendid job of bringing up DS1 and so you will undoubtedly do the same for DC2. I totally understand the thought of it could be a little daunting though.

I am sure your DS1 will rise to the challenge of being a big brother too and hopefully will quickly adapt to setting a shining example for his little brother.

I regularly panic about how on earth I will cope with one, plus DH plus the cat plus household stuff plus work etc so I admire anybody with more than one.

Mother Nature will kick in though and give you those magical mummy super powers which mean you're totally capable of managing it all.

I'm looking forward to some of those.....assuming they do exist ;) brew

misshoohaa Thu 16-Jan-14 21:26:24

Bezza - yup I'm with you. DS has recently dropped his nap as well, so the days with him are pretty long! I've been into the nursery we're hoping to get him into today, but just not sure I can face leaving him yet (he's 2.5 so not that young, but still my baby!) so roughing it out with two is daunting the pants of me.

Those who haven't been allowed or offered to hear the heartbeat at 16/17/18 week MW appointments, why not?

Surely there is a medical logic to doing so? I was very relieved to hear it at mine, and would have been pretty annoyed if the midwife hadn't done it? Seems odd?

MarlenaGru Thu 16-Jan-14 21:39:56

bezza my DD will be six when baby arrives. I will be going from total independence all the way back. Luckily she is great and very easy going but is still an awful sleeper so I am slightly terrified how we will deal with two awake at night. I think it is very normal to panic. Most people seem to cope though so I am sure we will too!

giraffelegs Thu 16-Jan-14 21:50:21

My midwife described it as 'a fish in a bowl' misshooha which I took to mean don't be surprised if we can't find a heartbeat. She did manage but I guess some places would prefer to avoid the panic that might be caused by not finding it! Seems a shame not to try though.

bezza I am also panicking. DD is 27 months and still doesn't reliably sleep through the night. so at the moment I'm up at silly o'clock with her wondering what on earth we're doing having another!

My due date is actually 8 June but I will update next week when I know the gender. I'm guessing it's a boy.

hackneybird Thu 16-Jan-14 22:07:45

bezza I'm panicking too. Like Marlena I have a pretty big gap (DS will be 4.5 when baby comes) and its been getting easier and easier as he gets older. He is toilet trained both day and at night, is starting to play by himself, can watch a whole film in its entirely, walks everywhere doesn't need a buggy......argh what am I doing!

It will be worth it in the long run.

sleepy yes I have zero motivation. A bit of a problem as I am soooo busy. Roll on May. All I care about is what I'm having for lunch and dinner. Am also hungry all the time so I am forcing myself to eat fruit salad.

welcome pom hope you haven't had too many serious problems

CleverOl10 Thu 16-Jan-14 22:36:41

Totally sympathise with those starting to ache. By the end of a day's teaching I find myself walking like a cowboy who's lost his horse! So achy! Today I ended up taking a chair to the front of the room and teaching sitting down!

Am another for whom the reality of having two children is starting to kick in. My ds will be just 4 when the baby is born and generally good but it's been hard work to get to this stage.....and now we're doing it again?!!!!!

BEEwitched Thu 16-Jan-14 22:51:17

We still only have our small Klippan sofa and I haven't adjusted the way I sit lounge - earlier on I was sitting with my legs crossed and I almost got stuck, the pain in my hip and pelvis when I untangled my legs was something else.... I really need to get into the habit to sit properly.

Thankfully our new sofa arrives tomorrow, it's nice and big and comfy!

Redcliff Thu 16-Jan-14 22:56:04

Bezza - I have had the same panic about two. My DS will be 7 and I can't get my head around being a family of 2 adults and one child to two adults and 2 children. Really want to get out and about in the summer but how is breast feeding going to work, willI be too shattered to do anything and so on. I am sure we will be fine but still feels very scary.

I think the stress of not hearing the heartbeat and the follow up hospital appoints have put some midwives off doing the heartbeat thing. I might ask next time though.

Sareva Thu 16-Jan-14 23:12:24

Bezza I echo some of the other ladies. My DDs will be 7 and 5 - I regularly have my omg moments! Especially when my sister and 4 week old nephew came to stay the night and I slept right through, I didn't hear the three times he woke up.....in the next room shock

Bezzabelle Fri 17-Jan-14 06:52:15

Thanks everyone- made me feel much better!

MarlenaGru Fri 17-Jan-14 07:34:56

sareva I sleep through thunder, burglar alarms etc but never once slept more than a second after the first whimper from dd when she was a tiny baby! After 9 months of 3 hourly breast feeds most night wake ups are dh's problem since she was about 2 wink

Bumblebeesmum Fri 17-Jan-14 08:06:34

Bezza I am completely panicking. My toddler is 19 months old extremely active & hard work & tbh it turns out quite a bully even to older toddlers which is upsetting enough & I have no idea how I'm going to deal with him & a newborn & sleepless nights! I think everyone has a little panic about something

Liquidambar Fri 17-Jan-14 08:16:24

Bezza my ds will be 4 once this baby comes. He was really hard work when he was little and pretty demanding now. There's only hope that if we did it once before we can do it again. My grandmother, who had 7 children, always told me that if they feel loved they will help with the little ones. there's hope smile

And it's Friday! !!! I have to fo a bit of work during the weekend but really looking forward for 4pm.

Liquidambar Fri 17-Jan-14 08:17:05

ah! good luck for today's scans smile

MarlenaGru Fri 17-Jan-14 08:25:22

Ah yes good luck today for the scans!
Can't wait for today to be over! Very excited for a very overdue haircut tomorrow and fitness class! My fringe has grown out completely as it has been about 8 or 10 weeks blush

Riblet Fri 17-Jan-14 09:07:13

Good luck for today's scans!

Will definitely look into the foot rest thing, think that could be a help. Could also do with raising my monitor more to eye level but there's a massive shelf in the way. Mind you, my boss is coming over later to rig up some kind of system so I don't have to lift 20kg boxes of solutions (don't ask), so maybe I'll get him to make himself useful wink

Super, where are you seeing your midwife/planning to give birth? We're at the Women's for everything although think would have been seeing midwife at children's centre if hadn't been referred to multiples clinic. I don't know what their policy on hearing the heartbeat is as I ended up having to go for an extra scan at 16 week app, but if it is so they don't scare people if they can't find it I suppose it makes sense, although is annoying.

Interesting to hear people's thoughts on going from 1-2, especially after reading the 'three's company' discussion of the day and it's opposing thread yesterday. I always thought I'd have 3 or maybe 4 but after reading those I don't know, there were lots of good practical points that I'd never thought of. All of you ladies will be great when the time for no. 2 to arrive comes, despite the worries. Even if it's hard, you just get on with it don't you? That's what I'm telling myself about going from 0-2! Only thing is (and I know it is silly to think of this now) is that I have loved being pregnant so far and it makes me a bit sad to think that if we stick at 2, this will be the only time I get to do it. Just thought I'd do it at least twice even if only wanted 2 DCs. Anyway, I'm being stupid as I know I am blessed to be having twins but at least it is making me enjoy every minute of it!

Biffle Fri 17-Jan-14 11:54:47

Suddenly feeling sick again today. Anyone else been fine and then all of a sudden felt rubbish again?

superlambanana Fri 17-Jan-14 13:14:16

Me, Biffle! Had two days this week of feeling really ill again - though luckily just in the mornings so I went in late and worked through lunch. Seems to be better today and yesterday but feeling a bit nauseous still.

Riblet I'm going to the Countess as I'm over the water, and all my appts are at a children's centre (apart from scans). Unfortunately this means I have to trek to Ellesmere Port for them all which is a pain!!

My friend, who is due three days before me, has found One to One Midwives - it sounds great! It's run by the nhs and basically gives you the same midwife for everything - all your appointments (which they'll do at home if you like), 24hr contact, she's there for the scans, which then happen in a clinic rather than hospital, and is there for the birth (presumably where possible). It looks like you can get them all over the country and it's all free! I'm not sure I'm bothered enough to change now but I'll definitely look for my next DC (planning ahead!). They have a website so if anyone's interested then give them a google...

jaykay987 Fri 17-Jan-14 14:08:55

Super - I looked into that when I was ttc, and it seemed they were primarily based in NW. Their service did sound amazing.

Baffle - I've felt really nauseous the past two mornings (and today it has yet to lift). It's been worse than the ms I had - which stopped three/four weeks ago. I've posted in the main forum, as I'm not sure if it's a side effect of movements. I'm not sure I can feel movements, but my gut is churning and I feel really sick. It's not a bug or a toilet related issue, it feels more like motion sickness. Horrid.

Lmf679 Fri 17-Jan-14 14:10:36

Wow, I've been away for a couple of days and we're on a new thread! biffle I've had a couple of days feeling sick again, i find it's when I wait too long to eat, I need to eat little and often still.

My pregnancy hormones have been tested to the limits this week, sounds silly but my friend (who is a hairdresser) highlighted my hair and it's awful! Really stripy and much lighter than I wanted, almost white. I managed to hold it together in front of her as I didn't want to upset her but have had a few rage/crying moments. I've booked into my usual hairdresser to fix it Monday and go back to my natural colour but I may be embracing hats for the weekend!

Biffle Fri 17-Jan-14 14:55:27

Glad it's not just me feeling sick (not saying I am glad everyone else is / has felt rubbish).

BEEwitched Fri 17-Jan-14 15:09:12

I think I have a bit of thrush - what a pleasant thing to discuss at your first visit with your new GP.

The pharmacist handed me the package with my prescription with the words "it is to be applied at your convenience"; blush.

I think all the embarrassing situations you have to cope with during pregnancy/childbirth harden you up for being out and about with a child!

LadyGoneGaga Fri 17-Jan-14 15:13:55

You'll be fine, honestly. It IS an adjustment. You will feel that you are being torn in two some days when they both want stuff from you. But you get through it. And I just adore how much DS and DD love each other. They fight like cat and dog as well but DS has to give DD a big hug and kiss every morning before school or she is so sad for the rest of the day. It's all worth it.

And you will know what you are doing. You will look back to when you had just one baby to worry about and think, "What the F was all the fuss about?!". After all, all a small baby does is eat and sleep and stay relatively immobile. By the time they get active you will have it all down pat. One thing I did find, where we could mostly wing it with DC1, with DC2 a proper routine became fairly indispensable if we ever wanted to leave the house.

I am slightly panicking about 3 though...fear of the unknown.

Jessiebaba Fri 17-Jan-14 15:22:49

Have you read the current thread about the pros of having three Lady? This is my first DC but I am the youngest of three and always imagined myself having three - reading that thread earlier, I got really emotional and all nostalgic blush

Riblet Fri 17-Jan-14 15:48:23

That does sound like a trek Super- must get to be a bit of a chore. I'm really pleased mine have been moved to the hospital as even though the children's centre is closer to home, the hospital is much closer to work so can just walk there and avoid the parking at hosp/getting back into car park at work issues. Haven't heard of One to One although at booking in my original MW did say I'd have her all the way through so maybe it was that but she didn't say the name.

Sorry to hear some of you are feeling ill. Did have to lol at your pharmacist though Bee.

Oh no Lmf, I feel for you - it's so awkward when you hate a new hairdo, must be 10x worse when it's your friend that has done it! At least it should be fixed soon.

I'm thinking of playing on the whole hormonal rage thing with my boss. A few months ago I had to do a bit of work in another dept, basically because my dept had promised they would provide someone to work on a project without actually having anyone to do it, so muggins here got that privilege. I never liked doing it but did so without complaining although boss knew I wasn't keen, and I was delighted when the dual luck of (a) boss asking me to give it to my colleague who needed some work and (b) when I told them I was pg they said I'd have to stop as a molecule I was using might not be safe, arrived at the same time - happy days. Now I've been asked (i.e. told) to go back for a bit as my colleague didn't want it and soon after left so they never had a replacement, and a new bit of work is safe for me to do. I told my boss I didn't want to and I find being there really stressful (turns out he's known for a while I'd be asked to go back but I only found out today) and I've basically been told to suck it up but it's just to train someone else because despite what I said about it, in their wisdom they never trained anyone else because obviously I'd be around all the time. The project boss in the other dept will try and milk it and get me to do loads as always but to try and placate me my boss has said it will just be 3 days and if there's any more he'll tell the other dept that's it. So, hmph- if anything else happens I'm going to have to try and unleash all the tears and hellfire I can muster - after all, he doesn't have kids and by the sounds of it doesn't know anything about pg women so it might work! Sorry for the rant!!

CleverOl10 Fri 17-Jan-14 16:13:45

I'm another like you Biffle. Had about 10 days with no ms and was starting to believe it had gone but back with a vengeance today sad

Not sure how I made it through a full day's work but heading to bed now. Hope everyone else feels better soon.

MarlenaGru Fri 17-Jan-14 16:53:29

Happiness is a fire alarm at 4:45! Happy weekend everyone!

Bumblebeesmum Fri 17-Jan-14 17:08:01

Riblet another (safer / saner) way to handle it might be if stressed etc go get a water or pop to loo and take 10. No one will complain even if it's 100x a day smile

hackneybird Fri 17-Jan-14 17:40:49

Popping to say hi to everyone - so glad it's the weekend! I am always so tired by Fridays.

I find I still get sickness if I go too long without eating.

Relieved I'm not the only one who is also nervous about going from 1-2 children. I'm preparing myself for it to be awful for the first 6 months then hopefully we'll all come out of the other side. All my friends have had their second and have survived!

I'm going to the cinema tonight - really looking forward to not having to pick up DS and do the tea/bath/bed time struggle. I'm just going to kick back and enjoy watching a film at leisure. Nice!

Redcliff Fri 17-Jan-14 19:57:28

What film did you see Hackney? Its been ages since I saw a proper grown up film in the cinema - somehow I am taking DS to see Turbo tomorrow while other half swans off to see the wolf of wall street - not sure how that happened. He is out tonight which I am really pleased about as he never goes out (I mean I am glad he is having a good time not that I don't want him here) so DS and I are getting pizza delivered and are going to watch a Dr Who - hooray!

I still feel sick in the mornings - today was terrible! Lets hope it goes soon.

Riblet Fri 17-Jan-14 20:27:17

Thanks Bumble, it may well be 100 times a day, not far off now wink Even more pissed off now as apparently I'll have to be over there two days a week now but I honestly don't think there's time to do that and my own job, so may just end up having a rational conversation with boss, not that it'll help. Anyway, apologies for the moan folks, just needed to vent.

With all the ranting I forgot to say that colleague brought in the baby clothes for us today and have just looked through them - I so hope we have at least one girl as we probably won't need to buy any clothes for a year- two big bags of lovely stuff and all good quality grin

Sounds like a great evening Hackney, enjoy the film, and you Redcliff, sounds like a nice relaxing night in smile

hackneybird Fri 17-Jan-14 22:31:42

I went to see The Butler, more out of interest than any great desire! But I had a free ticket so thought why not. It was 'ok', I didn't love it.

Cinema is one of my main interests and I go a lot. I find it so relaxing.

Hope everyone else has a lovely weekend, I am taking my son to an adventure playground with a friend tomorrow so really hoping I can find some energy from somewhere. DH will be doing jobs around the house and cooking us a nice tea for when we get back - have a feeling I'm going to be needing some comfort food after all that.

riblet hope you're feeling better after a good vent- don't worry, it is what we are all here for.

redcliff hope you and your DS have had a nice evening, sounds lovely. When I was in my deepest darkest early pregnancy exhaustion I ordered pizza for DS and I a couple of times when I was on my own and couldn't face cooking. A treat AND a lifesaver!

Redcliff Fri 17-Jan-14 23:08:22

I am a big cinema fan too - last maternity leave I went to so many patent baby screenings. I suspect I saw more films in those 7 months then I have in the 5 years since unless you count kids films.

GillyBillyWilly Sat 18-Jan-14 08:34:46

Forgot to let you know how my 20 week scan went yesterday... Copying and pasting what I put in the Facebook group smile

Scan was great although we had a "VERY wriggly baby in a VERY VERY awkward position" (sonographers words!).

She managed to measure everything except one thigh bone and the heart so she asked me to go for a walk, have a drink and come back after 20 mins.

Nothing to worry about as she could see the heart beating fine and she could see the 4 chambers and both ventricles... She just couldn't get a decent measurement due to the angle of the baby.

Anyway... My walk and drink didn't achieve much as the baby was being just as awkward when we went back although she was slightly more satisfied I suppose as she managed to get the thigh measurement and was finally happy with the heart......although she had to do an average measurement based on looking at the heart from a few different angles (all the angles except the one she wanted basically!).

Anyway... We didn't find out the gender but she said the baby was being so wriggly and awkward that she probably wouldn't have been able to tell us the gender even if we wanted her to. because the legs were curled up under its bum for 99% of the time!

She also did a transvaginal scan to check my cervix to make sure it wasn't short... blush Apparently short cervixes can cause premature birth? Well my cervix is "lovely and long"... Which is nice ��blush

In the end she gave us 6 scan photos and didn't charge us at all because she said she thought they were a bit crap because the baby was moving so much! But I actually think they're great photos so quite happy with that!!!

GillyBillyWilly Sat 18-Jan-14 08:36:57

Also if any of you ladies want to join our private Facebook group then just PM me your email address.
There's about 35 of us in there now and it's great smile
And completely private/hidden so other people on Facebook can't see it.

bellygazing Sat 18-Jan-14 10:09:14

Last night my 3yo DD who is a bit obsessed with the baby was resting her head on my belly and she said "I can hear the baby wriggling! " I'm not sure that's true but it was lovely seeing her so engaged.

SleepyNess Sat 18-Jan-14 10:29:13

DH felt the baby kick for the first time this morning! He's always bouncy as soon as I wake up so I put DH's hand on my bump and straight away he felt 3 really strong kicks! Very emotional! smile)

Mitchell2 Sat 18-Jan-14 10:30:41

How cool sleepy! What a great start to a day

MarlenaGru Sat 18-Jan-14 11:12:35

Mine seems to be moving constantly at the moment! Very weird. Gone in a few days from bubbles to wriggles!

Dh went to get DD a sandwich for after her dance classes as we have only got an hour to get her changed and to tennis and asked for one too and he came back with only one. Major grump from me may have followed blush

Liquidambar Sat 18-Jan-14 11:48:44

Sorry, but just needed to share this... I hate this lack of control over emotional reactions. DH was told he has to travel this week for 2 weeks and I just burst into tears. sad how am I going to survive without him and look after Ds while pregnant? what happens if I need something?
I know it's all very irrational... hormones! !! I hate pregnancy hormones

Mitchell2 Sat 18-Jan-14 12:03:51

liquid I am with you, although I think in your situation I would have been upset preggo nor not. Two weeks is a while and not insignificant when your pg.

I'm current in bed still upset over something that happened yesterday at work with my boss. He was being an arse, and a few heated email were exchanged (he is overseas), normally I'd just move on but I'm still stewing on it and can't help it!

superlambanana Sat 18-Jan-14 12:12:36

Aw sleepy grin

Marlena, Mitchell and liquid - I would have grumped too in all your positions! Hope you're all feeling better.

Can't wait for DH to be able to feel the baby. Seems a bit unfair that only I can! Though I also have to deal with all the crappy bits too so maybe it's payback...

MarlenaGru Sat 18-Jan-14 12:23:23

liquid I would have cried too!

summerbaby2014 Sat 18-Jan-14 13:55:30

Sleepy- that's fab!! I was just saying to DH last night that I don't think it will be long until he'll be able to feel something. The last few days I've been able to feel it every day.
Although it certainly isn't active in the mornings, much like me really grin

summerbaby2014 Sat 18-Jan-14 13:56:20

Marlena- I hope you got your sandwich in the end!

wispaxmas Sat 18-Jan-14 13:58:27

Super, at least you can feel your baby. I still have absolutely nothing!! 20+3 and not a peep!

MarlenaGru Sat 18-Jan-14 14:44:39

I did thanks! I think dh knew he was beaten wink

Majorly sad that my hairdresser is sick so I can't get my hair cut. I guess another week isn't the end of the world after this long.

Redcliff Sat 18-Jan-14 14:58:15

Belly - that is so lovely. My DS is coming round to the idea and has "conversations" with baby sometimes which is sweet.

I can't wait for DP to be able to feel some kicks. The last couple a days I have felt lots of movement so hopefully soon..

mimi74 Sat 18-Jan-14 15:17:35

Can't keep up with you lot! Had a few days off here too many messages to catch up on! Have added myself on here hope I've done it right....

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

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mimi74 Sat 18-Jan-14 15:19:49

Having a private gender/reassurance scan at 1pm tomorrow. I'm so impatient and can't wait until 20 week scan on 7th Feb, plus I just feel I need some reassurance due to constant drama surrounding me being pregnant and me been stressed and worried all the goddam time.

Anyone got experience of these early gender scans, I'll be 17+3 tomorrow, just hoping they can tell??!?

chestnutmare Sat 18-Jan-14 16:53:46

I don't have any experience of the gender scans yet mimi74 but have one booked for next week so I'll be interested in hearing how it goes! I'm sure it will all be fine smile

Bumblebeesmum Sat 18-Jan-14 16:58:25

I nearly cried when driving around for ages struggling to find my friends house when sat nav took me to wrong place - at least 2 weeks left alone is an actual reason to cry! smile

Riblet Sat 18-Jan-14 17:16:14

Sympathy and hugs to all you emotional ladies - I think anything justifies crying / moodiness when you're pg, even if it seems insignificant to others. I'm still in a strop with my boss but trying not to let it ruin my weekend.

Envious that so many of you can feel your babies move- nothing for me yet (am 19+3). Did wonder if I felt a little flutter yesterday but think it was probably wind!

DH had to go into work today so I've been getting on with loads of cleaning, washing and other chores - tiring but feel like I've achieved something. Also finally decided on a buggy (now that IS an achievement!) and ordered it - ex-display so a good price and my parents have offered to pay for it too smile

Right, need to go and feed the cats - queen bee blind cat is stomping on my belly in protest (I'm sure she knows somehow!)

bellygazing Sat 18-Jan-14 17:50:26

I didn't feel baby until something like 22 weeks last time - those of you who think it's wind might later realise it was your little wriggle smile. Have had lots of movement from really early this time - it is amazing. Towards the end when it feels like you have a whale in a bag in your belly it is less magical...

CleverOl10 Sat 18-Jan-14 18:06:00

My baby is a real wriggler but I think it helps that it's my second as I know that the wind like flutters are actually bouncy baby! Am slightly worried that they won't be able to tell the gender on Tuesday as it is so wriggly.

MarlenaGru Sat 18-Jan-14 18:52:27

belly I have some videos of DD looking like an alien trying to break free!

Mitchell2 Sat 18-Jan-14 19:12:40

18+5 and I am so jealous if your wriggles.... I wanna feel it!

BEEwitched Sat 18-Jan-14 19:53:45

I've felt less the last couple of days and it's been driving my crazy, I want to poke my belly and go 'c'moooon, have a wriggle!'....

hackneybird Sat 18-Jan-14 20:06:41

liquid I would have burst into tears at the prospect of no DH for two weeks as well! I've asked mine not to go out in the evenings at the moment as I am always so tired come bath and bed time and need the help.

I've suddenly had loads of movement in the last week and have had a couple of proper kicks, real belters. He/she is most active in the evenings and at night when I'm trying to get to sleep which is a worrying sign!

bee I remember when I was expecting my DS I used to feel concerned when I hadn't felt him for a couple of days, so would regularly poke my tummy. Sometimes I used to get a poke back, I loved that.

Liquidambar Sat 18-Jan-14 21:44:26

Thanks everyone.
It has been an emotional day. Actually DH has been a little star (I think he was a bit shocked with my reaction blush ) and he is trying to either find an alternative or he will negotiate the numbers of days he needs to be away.
In any case I have asked my mum to fly all the way here to help me. She has some work commitments so she might not be able to stay many days, but any help will be great.

I have been working since 7.30pm and I suspect this will be a long evening.

CleverOl10 Sat 18-Jan-14 21:51:59

Definitely sympathise liquid. I couldn't cope without my husband at the moment as he handles everything to do with ds and makes my dinner! I hope your mum can help make things easier.

BEEwitched Sat 18-Jan-14 22:01:38

I am sending BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG hugs your way, liquid, because it sounds as if you need them.

It's ten o'clock, it's baby dancing time (also known as ouchy groin attack...) - there's definitely someone awake in there!

Liquidambar Sat 18-Jan-14 22:11:32

Hugs received Bee grin

Sareva Sun 19-Jan-14 00:06:09

Mimi74 snap I have my 20 week scan on the 7th of feb also. Are you having a baby bond scan? I had one three weeks ago at exactly 16 weeks. The appointment takes about 20 mins, the sonographer looks at the baby does a few checks, points out nose, mouth, fingers, etc. all the while taking some stills. It was a bit like my 12 week scan actually, except some of it was in 3/4d not sure which one, but it was freaky. She left the sex towards the end of the appointment and me and oh couldn't tell whilst she was doing the other checks so were anxiously waiting. I was so sure I was having another girl because my symptoms were exactly the same as my other pregnancies but evidently not! Have fun tomorrow.

I'm also jealous of those who are feeling kicks and flutters. This is my third and I'm not sure if I can't remember what the flutters feel like, but so far nothing.

Sareva Sun 19-Jan-14 00:09:54

Liquid another one sending hugs, my oh also works away from time to time so I know how hard it can be, but especially so during this period and with other children. I'm very luck and thankful that I live near to my parents and alot of my family who are on hand to help me out.

MarlenaGru Sun 19-Jan-14 10:57:08

liquid I am glad he is trying to negotiate less time away. One of my pet hates is the way nobody seems to think a father might need to be around. My DH's previous company sent him to India for a month last year! Dh was so excited to go and I was livid as all childcare etc then fell to me. We both work full time so share things mostly.

Luckily he really missed DD while he was away and she barely slept a single whole night while he was gone. If I had been pregnant too I would have run away! I don't think he will ever agree to a trip like that again.

Now I just need to get him to come home early enough to bath DD once of twice a week! Weekends I have become very lazy though as I just can't do it all anymore.

noseymcposey Sun 19-Jan-14 11:48:02

Another here starting to feel pregnant and knackered - I am only 20 weeks! Trying to get lots done as I barely moved from the sofa for the first trimester as was really quite ill with sickness and bronchitis and ended up having over 20 days off work. Eek!

Anyway feeling like I need to make up for lost time but I just have no energy. I also keep getting really quite breathless (already??) and get a pounding heart when lying down? I was trying to give the kitchen a good cleaning this morning and ended up just sitting at the kitchen table staring into space. This is no good! We have soo much to do, we had just moved house when I fell pregnant and there is just so much that needs doing in house! Energise me please someone!

summerbaby2014 Sun 19-Jan-14 11:55:57

Nosey- I know the feeling! I also feel a bit useless sometimes.

DH is currently sanding down the living room floor with his Dad and I'm lying down and surfing MN. I was quite frustrated at first because I can do so much less than before, but now I'm just lying here feeling the baby kick me and letting them get on with it.

I should probably haul ass and make them some lunch soon

summerbaby2014 Sun 19-Jan-14 11:57:52

DH was away with work last week, but the perks are that I get chocolates and macaroons when he gets back grin

Plus this is our first so that makes it easier

CleverOl10 Sun 19-Jan-14 12:14:50

Summer and Nosey I know what you mean. Still sat on the sofa in my pjs while dh finishes hanging out the washing he put on and gets ds ready to go to tesco. I feel pretty useless but dh keeps telling me that my job is to look after the new baby and keep myself healthy. Although I do just look at the mess our house is in and despair. When does nesting kick in????

Poetschild Sun 19-Jan-14 12:16:17

DH'S unattached PhD supervisor is encouraging him to apply for a job that would take him to China for 6 weeks per year. Hmph!

MarlenaGru Sun 19-Jan-14 13:01:33

hmm indeed poet
I am fighting with DD who is knackered as been awake since 4 angry and wants me to bring the entire contents of her bedroom downstairs for her to play.
DH is finally back from his run and I have just finished tidying the kitchen and folding all the washing. My grand plans of making pizza and brownies are looking fairly unlikely at the moment!

summer enjoy it! I struggle to be lazy but really must get over that! I am definitely better than I was first time round!
clever I do wonder why the dads don't get the nesting bug instead. Would be a lot more efficient wink

BEEwitched Sun 19-Jan-14 13:45:12

I woke up feeling chipper! The sun is shining, the sea is sparkling, we've had a really long lie in and DH brought me coffee and PBJ toast in bed, now we're off to the beach with the dog.

Only took 5 months for me to feel like a normal human being again!

summerbaby2014 Sun 19-Jan-14 13:55:13

I think the dads do nest, they just show it through DIY! The impending fatherhood certainly had given DH a lot of motivation.

I actually feel a bit crap today. A bit headachy and sick. Back to the lying down methinks.

Glad you're feeling human now Bee

BEEwitched Sun 19-Jan-14 14:43:50

grin Managed a half hour walk before gagging all over the dunes, I call it a success!

HannahC1989 Sun 19-Jan-14 18:15:11

Having my 20 week scan tomorrow lunchtime.... very excited!! Hoping to find out gender however we couldnt with our first so im slightly worried... were only telling close family... however im slightly tempted to tell you all!

MarlenaGru Sun 19-Jan-14 18:43:16

Good news BEE
Hope you are feeling better summer and have lovely floors! I agree with DIY nesting, even if it is misguided! DH wants to do the loft which we don't need to do for now... Unfortunately we need to replace the dormer which is beyond his excellent DIY skills!

Good luck hannah hope baby is cooperative! Two weeks tomorrow for me but we aren't finding out gender!

mimi74 Sun 19-Jan-14 19:30:46

Sareva yes it was a baby bond scan, was lovely. I'm also having a little boy! The 4D/3D picture wasn't too great as he's snuggled right up against the placenta. But was lovely to just watch him on the screen for 15 minutes, I got about 6 different 2D prints including a right between the leg shot of his tackle, that'll be a good one to bring out on his 18th wink

Bumblebeesmum Sun 19-Jan-14 20:11:22

Wow Bee your kicks are powerful enough to hurt already? Mine are still at delicate tickling / popping but I'm a few weeks behind you & don't remember when did what last time

Btw those wanting to feel movement - prodding is no where near as good as an ice cold glass of water - down the water goes & 2 seconds later baby will wriggle away! Mwahahaha smile

Bezzabelle Sun 19-Jan-14 20:12:01

Keeps happening.... I get 4 or 5 obvious kicks/whacks in a row that could be felt from hand on tummy rather than just flutters and then as soon as I get dh to come and feel, baby stops- so annoying!!!!

BEEwitched Sun 19-Jan-14 21:08:32

Every now and then I get a poke back when I prod my tummy, it's lovely grin.

Bumble, it doesn't really hurt but it's quite uncomfortable, esp. as he seems to prefer having hus head wedged right into my pelvis! Can't wait until I feel lots of movement.

I've booked a scan for around 30 weeks - I find they help quite a bit with my anxiety, and back home you normally get a scan around that time. 8 knew I'd regret not doing it, too. It's sometime in March.

SleepyNess Sun 19-Jan-14 21:36:27

Hey all!! Another lovely relaxing weekend!

My tummy is growing by the minute. It's almost scary! My belly button is all stretched out..weird.

All this might be related to the fact that I cannot stop eating. Always looking for something to munch. No gooood!

Redcliff Sun 19-Jan-14 22:53:06

Bezza - that happened to me all the time last pregnancy . It was like he knew I was calling DP over!

Just came to bed to find DS (6 yo) still awake! At 10, 45!!! Hope the next one is a better sleeper.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 20-Jan-14 07:00:46

Right that's it ! I'm fed up of being miles behind everyone on here so am forking out £40 for a gender scan this Thursday - can't wait smile smile

Bumblebeesmum Mon 20-Jan-14 07:00:59

Right that's it ! I'm fed up of being miles behind everyone on here so am forking out £40 for a gender scan this Thursday - can't wait smile smile

MarlenaGru Mon 20-Jan-14 08:29:52

sleepy my belly button has gone outie already. Much to DH's amusement. Anyone got a linea negra yet? I can't remember when I got it last time but no sign yet.

Lol bumblebee do you have a preference or just very intrigued?

Redcliff Mon 20-Jan-14 08:37:49

Bumble. You almost made me lol on the train . I know what you mean as mine is in two weeks and it feels a long time to wait .

Off to look at prams today after work - all feels such a minefield. I got it so wrong last time so want to give it some real thought and research this time round,

Riblet Mon 20-Jan-14 08:53:28

Glad to hear you're finally starting to feel better Bee smile. Also good that your DH is trying to find a solution Liquid - don't blame you for your reaction though. My DH had the option of going to a conference in the States for a week in May but luckily it isn't essential and (surprisingly- ha!) he knew without asking me that it'd be out of the question. He did however say "at least I can go next year"- erm, we will discuss that when the time comes! He went last year and his colleague, who at that time had a DD of only a couple of months old if that, went too, which surprised me, but then the colleague's wife who is also an academic had a conference in the same place a few weeks later and he went out too to look after the baby, so I suppose they had some kind of deal going.

Sympathies to those who are feeling knackered and useless - I have generally been lucky and felt ok but sometimes the fatigue does kick in, and I hate doing nothing (especially as there is SO much to do to get the house ready) so feel really guilty. Am slowly learning that if I need to rest then I need to, so try and do stuff in the mornings if possible when I have more energy (I'm an early bird) and try not to feel bad about crashing in the evenings. As I say though, if you need the rest then you need it - it's a hard job growing a new person!

Vickyvix Mon 20-Jan-14 10:35:41

Good luck hannah smile

Trying to catch up on mobile so apologies if I have missed anyone else. Very jealous of those feeling proper kicks . I think I have a few fluttering a but nothing much, really want to feel something properly now.

Stacks Mon 20-Jan-14 10:49:48

I keep popping in then disappearing for ages. Having trouble with my DS (1yo) not sleeping well, so not had much time for mn. I hope he gets back to sleeping soon, I'm exhausted sad

Got my scan date for 20w scan - 7th Feb. Not too long to wait I guess, though it feels like ages. Can't wait to find out the gender, but I know DH won't agree to a private scan, so I'm going to have to keep patient.

Need to get in touch with my midwife today, been in agony over the weekend sad I had an operation back in 2009 which involved cutting through my stomach muscles on the right hand side. The operation site is suddenly agony, I can't cough, bend down, pick up DS or walk without pain. Not really sure if it's a midwife, dr or consultant issue though. Midwife is easier to get in touch with though, so we'll see what she says.

Hope everyone is well, going Togo back and catch up on the thread a hit now.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 20-Jan-14 11:00:29

Stacks it sounds like a GP visit where you will then prob be referred to consultant also but midwife will hopefully put you in right direction. Sounds awful though hope they can help.

Liquid I don't remember how old your children are? Is there any option for going away with him for a few days in the middle? I'm an auditor & when I was at EY travelled a ridiculous amount & sometimes my husband would come along for the free hotel (but never with a baby!)

Marlena I have a little boy so we have a house full of boys things & tbh it's getting ridiculous how much of the house he takes up. It would be great to know if we can get rid or if we're sorted for number two!

I do want a boy but I was surrounded by people having girls when I had my 1st & wanted a girl so I'm fairly certain given the number of boys on here - this ones prob a girl haha - but although I wanted a girl first time round I wasn't in slightest bit disappointed when I found out it was a boy so I know I would be very happy either way

Mitchell2 Mon 20-Jan-14 12:54:20

Hi Stacks - I had something similar. I have had 5 abdominal surgeries over the years (key hole and non key hole), all on my right side. Before Xmas I was in A&E due to the pain and the fact I literally couldn't move.

I wasn't in for long (a few hours) they said the baby was ok, gave me paracetamol as that is all they could give me and sent me on my way saying I should speak to my GP. The consensus for myself at least is that its just the internal scars getting shoved about with the uterus expanding. There is little that they can do for that and I was given a 'tough luck' spiel! I guess it is - my only concern is that I am not very big yet so the worst probably is to come!

Biffle Mon 20-Jan-14 13:10:05

Think I managed to catch up with everyone!! Such a busy thread smile

DD1 had a swimming competition all Saturday afternoon and then a (joint) birthday disco for 80 kids Saturday night so I was in agony by the time I got the girls to bed at 10pm! Think it has all caught up with me as I am shattered today and keep drifting off to another planet while I am at work shock ... still just counted and thanks to school holidays and the impending reduction in my hours I only have 64 days left at work!!

My 20w scan isn't until 7th Feb and I can't wait to find out whether this one is daughter #3 or boy #1. Briefly considered doing a bumble and booking a private one but there are no appointments available at the cheaper place any sooner and can't justify the £130 First View charge, especially as we have a 4D one booked in April for the girls to come along to see their brother/sister.

Have mw on Thursday and she has said she will do the heartbeat for me so can get excited about that instead

Redcliff Mon 20-Jan-14 14:08:05

Stacks - that sound horrible. Hope you get it sorted.

I have a GGT (think that's right?) which I have to fast for - boo hiss! I need my cornflakes but will just have to take something with me for after. Have to be there really early as well
sad

SleepyNess Mon 20-Jan-14 14:32:53

Mondays are killers! So hard to stay awake at work... Zzzz..

BEEwitched Mon 20-Jan-14 14:54:05

I have my GTT on the 3rd of March, but I only need to fast from midnight and was actually told to eat something at around 9/10 pm the evening before so I'm not starving.

Fingers crossed it goes well, Redcliff, and do take a decent snack with you for afterwards! Apart from some shrivelled apples the shops in my hospital only have sweets and crisps...

SarahAnderson Mon 20-Jan-14 15:07:57

Had my 16 week midwife appointment today. Two weeks late as we were on holiday until then. What a joy to hear that heartbeat! Sounded like he/she was about to explode, though, poor wee thing. At least that’ll tide me over until the 20 week scan.I find I need some sort of external reassurance that the baby still exists about every 3-4 weeks otherwise I start worrying.

Can’t wait for the kicks to properly start. I cannot decide whether I’m feeling something or just gas. Every time I feel like it DEFINITELY is the baby, 30 seconds later I fart.

Jessiebaba Mon 20-Jan-14 15:36:48

Sarah I had my 16 week check up today as well (1 week late). I didn't get to hear the heart beat though as it's their policy to not check for it before 20 weeks sad Glad your appointment went well though

I'm exactly the same and feel I need reassurance every few weeks. We've got a gender scan booked for 1st Feb so can't wait for that now!

mylittlel Mon 20-Jan-14 15:42:26

Sarah aa, thats funny, i think im the same, dont really know if its gas or baby, but think felt baby few times..now started having back pain(

HannahC1989 Mon 20-Jan-14 16:24:18

Just got bk from scan.... what an emosh time....
We are over the moon that everything is looking very healthy and baby cooperated and measured everything with no trouble!
They also spread their legs to reveal we have got a little BOY on the way... we have a 4 year old girl so we couldnt be happier!!!

Bezzabelle Mon 20-Jan-14 16:30:48

Congrats Hannah!!

Sussex31 Mon 20-Jan-14 17:25:23

Congrats Hannah smile

Jessiebaba Mon 20-Jan-14 18:05:26

Congrats Hannah! grin

Redcliff Mon 20-Jan-14 18:13:07

That's great news Hannah - congrats from me as well.

I just had an odd experience - I went to mothercare to check out prams and get some maternity tights and I saw a really cute baby grow. I picked it up but couldn't bring myself to buy it. It all feels to early - I'm crazy aren't I? I think I am like those that want that reassure every few weeks and my last scan feels ages ago. I have been feeling movement ( not quite kicks but some wiggling ) but after 5 years of trying it still feels a bit surreal. Am I crazy?

SarahAnderson Mon 20-Jan-14 18:19:43

Redcliff I'm the same - not buying any baby stuff at all. Felt weird when my sisters gave me a bunch of their hand-me-downs. My best friend from high school lost her baby at 5 months and I can't stop thinking about it.

Not sure when it's going to feel right to buy baby stuff. Possibly not until after the birth.

Vickyvix Mon 20-Jan-14 18:33:33

Great news hannah and lovely news from those who also had their 16 week appointments too.

stacks hope you get a referral and all sorts itself out pain wise soon

Stacks Mon 20-Jan-14 18:55:14

Mitchell - that's reassuring in a way, at least it's possible this isn't something serious. My mind is straying to hernias and tears in the muscle and all sorts. At the same time though, I doubt they could do anything about anything till after baby, so I'm worrying about what's to come too.

Congrats on the good scan and the little boy Hannah.

When I was pg with DS we didn't buy anything till I was 30w or more. I was in a sort of protective denial right up until he was born, just seemed too good to be true that we were finally going to get our long awaited baby!

Bezzabelle Mon 20-Jan-14 21:20:10

With ds, I didn't buy anything until right near the end. Mum and mil brought loads but I wouldn't have it in my house- I know it wouldn't have made any difference, just couldn't do it.

On a totally shallow note, I've hit a stone and a half in weight gain!! At 21 weeks- blooming Nora!! My uterus feels like its already pushing my ribs up and feel a bit uncomfortable after I've eaten. Worst thing is its not just baby, it's total over eating and I need to reign it in as feel a bit out of control. I know how I look isn't important but it's more that I'm worried about already being uncomfortable now when I've got weeks left to go....

Redcliff Mon 20-Jan-14 22:15:30

So glad I am not crazy (well not about this any way) I spoke to my mum today and she's keen to get something (sling perhaps ) but I have asked to wait. . Thanks for sharing your stories - I feel so much better

superlambanana Mon 20-Jan-14 23:37:56

Weird pregnancy symptom #793: I have noticed I no longer really have to shave my legs.

Well, there have to be some perks I suppose!!

Sareva Tue 21-Jan-14 00:52:06

Congrats Mimi and Hannah
SarahAnderson you've described what happens to me exactly grin
Redcliff I felt like that with my previous two, so much so both times I was not prepared and we had to get some stuff in post birth!
This time I've bought a pram and a rocker (jan sales), but all of a sudden I just think it's too early and am returning the pram and hiding the rocker. Maybe after my 20 week scan I won't feel so anxious and start to relax a bit.

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 07:29:54

sareva I keep thinking I will feel less concerned after each scan, midwife appointment etc but I think the worry never goes away.

Redcliff Tue 21-Jan-14 07:47:01

Sarvea - I would be just the same with any big purchase - I saw a nice discounted carry cot in John Lewis yesterday but couldn't even think about it.

Servana - I keep on thinking each scan I will feel better but it only lasts for a few days. I know its irrational and wish I could more like those that are planning ahead and getting everything ready!

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 08:35:06

Sorry I need a moan. We have a six year age gap because I stupidly thought insomniac DD would be sleeping by now. Two nights in three she has now started the day at 4. I am losing the will to live. I won't cope with a 6 year old doing that and a newborn and DH's solution is to shout at her and give her the iPad.

Riblet Tue 21-Jan-14 08:53:11

Stacks - I'd agree with Mitchell that it is probably scar tissue - don't think it stretches well. Worth asking GP or MW though. I've been putting the stitch-type pain I keep getting in lower right abdomen when sneeze/walk more than a few mins down to scar tissue as is the site of one of keyhole scars from appendicectomy - mine is nowhere near as bad as yours sounds but proper surgery and more scar tissue could explain it. Hope you get some relief from it.

Re. buying stuff - I've been pretty wary of getting anything too and have only allowed myself to in the last week or so. Have got car seats and buggy as they were in the sales but they can all be returned if necessary and 20wk scan is tomorrow... it's just so hard not to worry - in all likelihood everything will be fine and the way bump is expanding someone is definitely growing in there, but it's still hard not to fret!

Sorry to hear about your DDs sleep problems Marlena. Is there anyone you can speak to about it/have you spoken to someone? Can't offer any advice, just sympathy brew

SleepyNess Tue 21-Jan-14 09:33:22

Super, really?! I've never ever been so furry! I swear it grows everywhere now! Thanks, son smile)

Off topic, I'm puzzled why these private scans are called 'gender scans' . Surely, a baby in the womb doesnt have a gender, only sex? hmm

Mitchell2 Tue 21-Jan-14 10:05:39

preggo rage moment.

Actually feeling great this morning (but don't want to jinx it!!!) so was in at 8am as have loads to do. Not unheard of pre preg but def since October 9.30 - 10am (we start at 9.30) is the time I have been rocking up - meh, Im the boss they can deal with it and furthermore I stay much later than the rest of my staff in the evening, often work at home on weekends.

In walks in one of my staff at 8am - and he started giving me shit and making a big deal about me being early. Told him to 'stop fucking being rude' and it wasn't like that I made a deal when he worked later than 5.30 (he slopes off on time every day) and that he should be pleased for me and the fact I don't like feeling like I want to hurl this morning angry Twunt.

Mitchell2 Tue 21-Jan-14 10:06:16

sorry he sloped in at 9.30 and I had been her since 8am.... grrr

Bumblebeesmum Tue 21-Jan-14 10:24:46

Marlena my 19 month old is up at 4 every morning & it is killing me. Is there something you can persuade her to do at 4am to keep her amused?

Sleepy that's a good point although I reckon they prob just didn't like the sound of 'sex scans' smile

Bumblebeesmum Tue 21-Jan-14 10:26:53

Mitchell I hope you said you don't make a big deal when he leaves on time every day? People always see the early risers as harder working. Where I trained we had flexi time those who did 8-4 were somehow super hard working but those who rocked up at 10 but stayed well past 6 somehow didn't get same look. It's odd really.

Mitchell2 Tue 21-Jan-14 10:54:33

Yup not that it made a difference. I am a lot more senior than him and often am on conference calls in the evenings, international travel which involves 4.30am starts and midnight finishes and work on weekends which he seems to conveniently forget about.

Furthermore a) he works for me. So I don't understand why he thinks its acceptable in the first place b) he makes sure he has an hour lunch every day c) he leaves on time every night and d) I have already pulled him up about 10 times this year for the fact he hasn't done things he was supposed to and if he put in a few extra hours (which at his level and pay he is expected to) then he wouldn't be so behind.

Taking the piss.

I have his performance review tomorrow (which he has not done his bit yet despite the fact he was supposed to by the end of the year!) Not going to be positive. I think he forgets its ME who decides is comp and bonus?!

end of rant!

Redcliff Tue 21-Jan-14 11:12:06

Mitchell - that guy sounds like an idiot. I don't understand why he cares that you got to work at 8? Was he saying pregnant people can't start early? And the day before his review as well - clearly has no sense . Bet he is all surprised at his review when you don't shower him with praise .

Lmf679 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:14:13

Mitchell at least you have the review tomorrow and can constructively tell him he's a snidey little xxxx, in the most professional manner of course!

Worked out that with all my holidays I have 58 days at work - not that I'm counting or anything....

CleverOl10 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:15:39

Good for you Mitchell! What use is pregnancy rage if you can't put it to a good purpose! grin

Just walking home from work to get ready for my 20 week scan. Hoping to find out the gender! Had an achy belly for a couple of days now. Assuming it is some sort of growth spurt but will be nice to have the reassurance of a scan.

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 11:57:41

mitchell
I hate the idea that number of hours spent at your desk reflects anything! I have colleagues who are here for hours longer than me but it can take them hours to write an email. Efficiency is the name of the game!

Redcliff Tue 21-Jan-14 12:14:17

Clever - how exciting ! Hope you get to find out.

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 12:27:41

Ooh another scan! Wonder if it will be boy number 200 or girl number 3?!

Bumblebeesmum Tue 21-Jan-14 12:52:13

Mitchell I've seen loads of blokes make that sort of comment to senior female members of staff he's prob a sexist prick. Just remember a) you're more senior than him & b) you're more senior than him smile

Bumblebeesmum Tue 21-Jan-14 12:53:16

Marlena haha that made me laugh - we do seem to be growing a lot of willies between us ! smile

Mitchell2 Tue 21-Jan-14 13:10:22

Thanks guys - lets just hope the rage stays tomorrow and I don't revert to a blubbering mess!

BEEwitched Tue 21-Jan-14 13:26:32

Clever, good luck with your scan!

Mitchell2, no blubbering, get your inner drill sergeant out! (ahem, I'm the most teary person ever!)

I have my hospital appointment with the nutritionist tonight and I'm really scared - the midwife was banging on SO MUCH about how all participants didn't put any weight on during pregnancy, I'm terrified about being told off. Between my anxiety and being cooped up at home for months and Christmas in the middle of course I have put weight on!

I also pulled a muscle last night and can't move my left shoulder all that much, so I'm not looking forward to the 40 minute drive to hospital. Esp. in the dark, with the bad weather we're having yet again. Ah well.

noseymcposey Tue 21-Jan-14 15:10:06

superlambanana do you know what you're having yet? (sorry have lost track of who has found out!) the myths have it that more hairy = a boy so perhaps less hairy = a girl?!

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 17:41:06

The day is over and I can go to fitness once DD is in bed!

Thanks for the empathy this morning. bumble it is a killer. She used to only do it rarely but it is happening often at the moment. I wonder if it is the baby causing her to worry. I think she is a lot more sensitive than she lets on!

clever how was it?
mitchell nothing worse than crying at work! I burst into tears with my boss last year on DD's birthday. I was having an OMG my baby is 5 moment and he told me off for something he thought I had done (I hadn't) but I burst into tears. The shame!

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 17:42:08

Knew I forgot someone! Good luck at nutritionist BEE and hope the drive is ok!

CleverOl10 Tue 21-Jan-14 19:10:00

Scan generally good. All fine, nothing unusual but baby was very uncooperative - lots of wriggling and lying on its front so I have to go back in 3 weeks for a rescan as they couldn't view all the heart chambers properly.

I asked about the gender at the end. The sonographer was rather grumpy as she'd spent 10 minutes trying to get a good angle on the heart so just said I doubt we'll see anything with this baby. However there definitely was something between its legs, even she agreed! So we are almost certain we're joining the blue team! grin

Told ds when he got home. After two months of "girls are stinky" we didn't expect him to burst into tears and say I didn't want a brother! Apparently he's realised a boy might want to share his toys (!) Oh well! He'll love him in the end!

Sareva Tue 21-Jan-14 19:37:47

Marlena omg 4am you must be knackered by lunchtime. Your DH with the iPad though grin reminds me of me during the first 12weeks when my 6 year old started waking during the night all of a sudden. Giving her the iPad probably kept me from falling asleep at my desk! Hope it's rectified soon, what time is her bedtime?
Congrats Clever....Marlena looks like its boy 201!
Bee hope the nutritionist was okay.
Is there Anybody else with a high BMI that needs to take aspirin every day?
Mitchell stay strong for tomorrow!
Lmf - 58 days, I'm so jealous!

Liquidambar Tue 21-Jan-14 21:18:39

Clever another (active) boy! smile Glad everything looked fine.

Mitchell how rude of your colleague angry

Marlena <faints> 4am? shock How do you survive? I get very grumpy when DS wakes up at 6.

Bee how was your appointment?

Lmf I still have 75 days to go!! 58 sounds much better smile

Is anyone having braxton hicks? I had a couple on Sunday evening and I was getting scared. I am better now but I still get a couple during the day. I have been trying to read but information does not seem very reliable on what is normal, how many are "okay".

BEEwitched Tue 21-Jan-14 21:28:05

Urck, I'm back - everybody was really lovely, first had a chat with a really nice midwife and then with a nutritionist.

But after a rather emotional afternoon emailing back and forth with work ending in a slightly tense phonecall wasn't in the best frame of mind, and given my weight and how it's connected to my mental health I had a cry all over the nutritionist and felt really stupid afterwards.

The programme itself is fine, it's very low key and not at all about telling you what to eat or admonishing you - to be honest, if knew so much about the subject and my screwy eating patterns already, she only gave me some better coping patterns. Might get CBT out of it.

Now an engineer will rock up early next week with my magical monitoring scales - I have nightmares of a van pulling up that has 'Fatties R Us' written on it, but that's my anxiety talking!

MarlenaGru Tue 21-Jan-14 21:35:22

Sorry to hear about the tears BEE but sounds like there are some positives like CBT.

sareva hahaha 201 boys clever congratulations! Funny how DS cried though! Sure he will love him in the end.

And I am so used to the early wakings now. I hate them but once I am at my desk and busy the day is over quickly. I did nearly bite two heads off this morning, so really it is my colleagues who suffer thanks to DD! She goes to bed at 7:30. And she does actually really need her 12 hours for school! She leaves at 8 for school. She wasn't that grumpy tonight thankfully. She usually has a meltdown at bed time when she has woken so early!

Redcliff Tue 21-Jan-14 23:22:37

4 am! Can't imagine how horrible that must be! My DS used to wake up at 6 which was bad enough. We got him a clock and a star chart for staying in bed and it did the trick. Good luck.

Bee - I bet your not the first or last person to cry - food can be a very emotional subject. i have a meeting with a nutritionist in a couple of weeks - I hope s/he is as nice as yours.

SarahAnderson Wed 22-Jan-14 04:40:48

What's a 'normal' wake up time for a little one then? I'd have thought 6am was okay? (We get up 630am anyway and lots of people I work with get up earlier)

jaykay987 Wed 22-Jan-14 05:50:38

I think it depends on the age Sarah.

Slightly off topic - but something I learnt this week for any other first timers out there......

Definition of "sleeping through the night" for babies is midnight through to 5am. I've now read two very different books that define it in this way.

DH has a similar sleep pattern (it kills me) - but just thought it might help some people set their expectations!
(And anyone who's baby sleeps longer is a bonus! grin)

Cherryjellybean Wed 22-Jan-14 07:11:59

Liquid I've had a some, I really don't know how many are normal though. It just feels so early to have them

Congratulations clever and everyone else that has had their scans!

CleverOl10 Wed 22-Jan-14 08:06:17

Not sure if I can tell the difference between baby movement, pregnancy aches and pains, and braxton hicks. How do you know?

Liquidambar Wed 22-Jan-14 08:13:34

my bump gets really hard and tense for some seconds and then it gets back to normal. not painful but very uncomfortable.

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 09:19:42

My DD is nearly 6 and mostly sleeps 7:30 - 7 for school. I am happy with anything after 6 as I am a morning person.

But randomly she will wake at 4 and is miserable and not ready to wake up but it is so hard to get her back to sleep. I used to be able to rock her but impossible with baby bump and sore back. Dh has no patience so just gets annoyed and shouts which is very productive. hmm

Some people prefer later bedtimes with later wake ups but as she has always had nursery or school at 8 means for us bedtime was 7 and morning usually 7 if she ever slept that late!

SleepyNess Wed 22-Jan-14 09:25:36

Liquid, I'm having this too. Some days it's happening a lot and some days it's not too bad. I asked the consultant and she said its perfectly normal, unless regular and/or painful.

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 10:19:21

Sarah mine sleeps 7pm - 6 when he is well & then happily plays (even if v noisily) for at least 10 mins to an hour. If he's teething needs changing feeling grizzly etc then he wakes at 4am & we have to get up. Had 3 4ams in a row but this morning he was back to 6 not complaining about teeth so fingers crossed that stays a while - he's 19 months.

Tbh everyone labelled him as a 'bad sleeper' when he was a newborn & the number of ppl trying to guilt me into formula (seriously piss off I'd think while smiling) was unbearable. But he always slept 3 hours & always went to sleep easily. So 7pm bed 10pm feed 1am 4am 7am every night like clockwork till he was 6 months. Ok some get dream babies that sleep through really young but he always went to sleep easily after change or feed or whatever so although I was knackered it wasn't as emotionally draining as friends with colic babies etc. Then one day he slept 7 - 4 (my breasts hurt like hell) & that was it. Sleeping baby!!!

I'm not worried about the sleepless nights etc I'm more worried about a baby that can't be consoled whether it's in eve or middle of night - now that is hard going!!

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 10:34:23

Oh and everyone whether you formula feed or breast feed be prepared for the judgement. People are so bloody rude on this issue & can't help stick their noses in your business. I was made to feel like I was denying my baby sleep because I was selfishly Breastfeeding & know people who formula fed being made to feel similarly failures. I hated Breastfeeding found it v v hard & can't say I'll kill myself to make 6 months again this time but whatever I'm doing I will def be telling people where to shove it haha (ok I really probably won't but at least I'll not worry about it this time) smile

SarahAnderson Wed 22-Jan-14 10:45:33

Sorry for ignorant question... Why would breast feeding be denying him sleep?

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 10:48:57

bumble I'm already getting judgement of that. I am not comfortable with breastfeeding and will probably only do it for a few weeks and then move to expressed milk (yes I know its the worst of both worlds) or ff. There are loads of reasons why I am going down that route both personal, practical, medical and I keep on being told by well wishers that there is help available for me and breast is really best and don't give up.... I'm not bloody giving up. I am making an informed choice!!!

Snowlet Wed 22-Jan-14 10:58:41

Hi!

I'm just sort of popping in to say hello, find it impossible to keep up with this thread to be honest, tooooo fast and I have a terrible memory, but wanted to say good luck with all the 20 weekish scans, we don't go in til 3rd February.

Also, in case anyone on here is self-employed, there's a very useful thread that I started about maternity allowance and the stupid 'small earnings exception certificate', it's here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/1973499-Are-you-self-employed-maternity-allowance

If it helps even one person not be screwed over on their maternity allowance, that will be a very good thing!

CleverOl10 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:02:35

Hear hear! I think bringing up a baby is tough enough without people criticising your decisions. Breastfeeding can be hard and there are loads of reasons - practical, medical and psychological - why women choose not to. I did breastfeed, for a year. I didn't really enjoy it but it worked for me so I did it. I struggled to get ds to stop so will be more proactive with bottles this time. My best friend did not breastfeed once but neither of us judged each other. We had our own routines when we went out and it was fine. There were definitely pros and cons for both of us.

Sadly many people do feel they should have an opinion. The worst of these is usually mother or mother in law, which can be especially difficult.

Stay strong and do what works for you and your baby. And be aware that it might not be what you planned!

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 11:07:41

I have to say I'm quite grateful for the HCP and midwives I've had so far - about 9 midwives in total now (continuity of care, what's that?). They're not pushy about innoculations, they inform you about breast feeding but don't pressure you either way and part from this research programme about weight I'm in (which was entirely voluntary) no one has really mentioned my BMI too much.

Most of the women in my family haven't been able to breast feed - I want to give it a try, even though I find the thought really... well, almost revolting. I don't know why I feel that way but I've always felt like that and no amount or hormones seem to make it go away. I'll give it my best shot and persevere with it for a while, but 6-8 months and that's it. And I won't beat myself up should it not work out.

noseymcposey Wed 22-Jan-14 11:17:45

I managed to bf DS till 5/6 months, not sure if I'd be able to do it that long with a second DC as it involved hours and hours and hours just sitting there feeding! Think DS spent more time on than off the boob and would feed for 2 hours at a time at night. Saying that, he still likes to be physically close to me as much as possible (sit on my lap/lie on me in bed etc) He particularly likes to lie on me like I am a raft so if we're in bed he'll make sure every part of him is on me and not touching the bed. It's not that he's clingy as he'll happily go off and play all day but if I'm around he'll opt to be in physical contact. I think that is just the way he is made! I love having a cuddly toddler now but it was a little erm, claustrophobic when he was a baby!

Got my 20 week scan this afternoon. I think there are quite a few happening today. So good luck everyone!

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 11:31:43

BEE - just out of interest, you weren't breast fed? I wasn't - apparently I completely refused to latch on and to be honest its something that on a personal level has never appealed anyway... I wonder if that is linked back to the fact I didn't want the boob myself... hmmm.

Who knows, I may end up with a boob monster and not be able to do it any other way!

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 11:53:08

I bf DD until 9 months. It certainly wasn't easy. She had a dairy allergy which I suspected but all my HCP denied (until she was finally tested privately at 2 years old) so all my diet was dairy free.

bee my daughter really was a terrible sleeper. 45 minute wake ups from 7-10, then she would be awake for an hour, sleep til 1, awake for an hour, sleep til 4 sometimes (or not at all) and then not sleep much all day. And that was until she was 8 months and we contacted a sleep clinic as I was going back to work and was desperate. They helped a bit but it was only at age 2 after medication she improved.

This time I will be over the moon with one who sleeps and feeds at night! The constant bloody screaming does you in. And it was only at night. She never cried in the day and people used to tell me how lucky I was to have a happy baby!

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 12:09:57

Mitchell - no, neither me nor my brother were breastfed, we're 11 years apart. I don't think my parents were breastfed, either, my grans were both single parents and my mom and dad were really raised by their respective grandmothers.

Actually, making up bottles and feeding my brother is one of the few things I remember from when he was little, and something I really enjoyed and helped us bond a bit.

SleepyNess Wed 22-Jan-14 12:12:14

It's strange how your background impacts you.. I cannot wait to breastfeed the baby! Absolutely everyone in my family and friends circle were long term breastfeeders and I cannot wait to join them. I imagine it so special.. Honestly cannot wait for the baby to be handed to me and put to my breast.. Feel emotional just to imagine it..

I would be devastated if I wasn't able to do it.,

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 12:27:24

I was BF for 6 weeks before being put on evaporated milk and solids. No wonder I have every allergy going!

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 12:33:22

Evaporated milk shock

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 12:56:14

Exactly mitchell apparently standard advice in the 80s where I am from!

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 12:57:32

Sarah lots of ppl believe that babies wake up in night hungry & formula is heavier takes longer to digest so can mean babies sleep longer. It depends why your baby is waking though & formula can cause opposite problem as can cause more tummy problems aches etc. When mine went on to formula at 6 months it made absolutely 0 difference whatsoever to his sleep.

Mitchell 'breast feeding for a few weeks' is medically Breastfeeding and people who make you feel otherwise are wrong. My mum is a Consultant and whn she goes on courses they talk about the 'magic 7 days' which is colostrum, lining the gut, certain important immunities passed on etc so if you even make 7 days you have done a fabulous thing for your baby, you are as much a breast feeder as someone who lasts 2 years. But if you choose not to again it's your choice & your mental health & happiness is equally important to a baby. Babies don't just feed off milk it has been scientifically proven that tjey feed of smiles & interaction & develop better the more they get. So miserable Breastfeeding isn't necessarily better than happy formula feeding!

Sleepy 99% of women in the world Breastfeed. The chances of you 'not being able to' are minuscule. 3rd world countries simply don't get a choice the baby learns to latch etc. However it can be extremely difficult especially in first few weeks. For me it was extremely painful & upsetting but you can have real difficulties if you had transfusion and are left v weak etc or baby is in hospital & you're forced to try & express which is v tough. If it's a really important thing to you read up as much as you can & find some local Breastfeeding groups to go to after the birth where they often have specialists to help you. Midwifes in hospitals health visitors etc are v v hit and miss. When in hospital demand assistance from a mw with bf if you're struggling.

But for me personally - Breastfeeding was unpleasant I was embarrassed in public in agony for weeks often cried through feeding & it was not good for me. This time my intention is to fight through a fortnight even if it's hell - longer if baby is born low birth weight or something but other than that that is well and truly my lot if I have to endure that hell again. Ideally I'd like to make it to at least 4 months whn their digestion is almost done but I'm not going to beat myself up to do it.

Whatever you choose or end up doing ppl can be horrendous. If bf is important to you try & get someone to show you bf positions in advance (NCT do a whole session on it) & make sure partner is clued up on how to support & what they should be looking for. If it is not something you want to do choose baby groups that are not quite so 1 sided & consider not feeding in front of judgemental MILs etc in early weeks if you feel you might be sensitive to comments.

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 13:04:07

Bee your '8 months that's my lot' is funny as that is far far longer than the majority of breastfeeders. NCT & similar types will have you believing everyone breastfeeds to 2 & the minority give up. Actually in the UK it is completely the opposite.

Whatever option you choose & however long that lasts you are far from alone!

http://www.unicef.org.uk/BabyFriendly/About-Baby-Friendly/Breastfeeding-in-the-UK/UK-Breastfeeding-rates/

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 13:08:20

Thanks - I knew about the importance of colostrum only be cause my mother is a cattle farmer and she was always banging on about it being vital for the calves grin Without her farming knowledge I would honestly be clueless!

Even if I don't BF I will definitely put myself through the pain of expressing for at least two weeks to get that goodness and then who knows.

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 13:08:55

And yes 8 months is a HUGE amount of time and really something to be super chuffed with personally smile

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 13:19:53

I think 8 months is fab, too, but I'm afraid I had a peep at the breastfeeding boards and, well.... scary place. blush

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 13:20:42

La Leche League meats at a local cafe, but tbh sitting around with a bunch of other women in a public place and getting our tits out doesn't really appeal under these circumstances.

Only for orgies and hippy revolutions, please!

SleepyNess Wed 22-Jan-14 13:26:04

Call me a hippy but I'm totally going to breastfeed in public :P It's going to be summer so parks, cafes, etc - really want to make the most of it! smile

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 13:41:29

I've bought a few scarves for that purpose. I don't like it if someone plonks themselves down next to me at a party and gets their boobs out, either - I would never dispute their right to do it, at the same time I often see people deriding those of us for not being comfortable with it, and that's not on, either!

MrsBon Wed 22-Jan-14 13:43:25

Hiya Ladies, I am new to this group. I am due on June 18th.

Adding myself to the list, but not sure if that's the right way to do it?!

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds
Sareva - DC3/boy

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
ElizaB3
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl
pomdereplay - DC2/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing
Mrs.Bon

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhandsg

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 13:48:28

Its funny, one of my friends is still Bf'ing and she was so self conscious when it was one of our first girly catch ups with the wider group and her baby needed to be fed and kept apologizing.

We all thought it was hilarious and pointed out to her that out of everyone in the group we all had probably seen her breasts over the years than anyone's and then proceeded to reminisce over all the good times her boobs had made an unexpected appearance grin

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 14:07:54

grin Mitchell, that's fab - but I guess it illustrates what I mean, it just seems like something very intimate to me and if the thought of having a HCP look at it closely makes me shudder I'm sure I don't want to do it in public view!

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 17:23:58

One of my NCT group is Swedish and I was at a party at her house with lots of babies and one mum whipped them out to feed her baby and then realised I wasn't Swedish and blushed and apologised! I was very confused but my friend explained that I was breastfeeding DD too! I think in Britain it is rare for breastfeeding to be done for any length of time and almost never in public. For me my mental healer needed me to get out the house daily and as DD couldn't have formula I fed everywhere and anywhere. Mostly discretely but I have quite large breasts and when DD went through the staring around while feeding stage I am afraid a few people got flashed. Oh well!

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 17:39:10

Marlena If breastfeeding works out for me I probably won't be able to always do it discreetly, my breasts are just too big - to be honest, despite my feelings now I might very well get REALLY fed up with faffing about with scarfs and whatnot and in the end just really blase about whipping them out. I just can't imagine it right now!

CleverOl10 Wed 22-Jan-14 18:15:55

John Lewis does some fab bf cover ups. I'll try to work out how to link. They are a little expensive at just under £ 30 but Ioved mine. I had a tiny baby and he would disappear under it to the point someone once actually asked where my baby was while he was feeding underneath!

CleverOl10 Wed 22-Jan-14 18:17:44

This is an example

http://m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/bebe-au-lait-breastfeeding-cover-yoko/p231024501?un_jtt_v_pdp=yes&un_jtt_v_from_product=un_product_2

Sorry it's probably not clickable as on my phone.

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 19:48:35

Very true BEE I couldn't imagine it before I tried it. I actually am looking forward to it so much this time. Really lucky as DD is old enough to understand and so I should be ok to feed for years if I need to. I am going dairy free just in case again so formula isn't going to be an option.

bellygazing Wed 22-Jan-14 20:05:06

I loved breastfeeding. It was one of the few things I feel I did 'well'. I managed to feed for two yeArs which was my goal and I was definitely whipping 'em out in a fairly blase fashion. But I was lucky,I had no thrush, no tongue tie, no blocked ducts, very little pain and in general I just found it sooo easy. I doubt it will be so straightforward this time and I'll have to go back to work earlier which almost certainly means it will stop sooner. Which makes me feel sad.

Jessiebaba Wed 22-Jan-14 20:09:29

I'm definitely going to breastfeed (it's each woman's individual choice though - I'm not going to berate anyone who doesn't want to). My mum breastfed me and both my siblings and I've just always imagined that I would. She was quite politically active when I was a baby and still boasts to this day that she used to take me to meetings and breastfeed me without anyone even realising what she was doing (this was before anyone used breastfeeding covers) - she says it's all about wearing the right type of clothing and you acquire a 'knack'! I'd like to think she's right but I'll wait and see how that works out for me!

One of my SILs used the breastfeeding cover and more than once, I asked her where the baby was when he was actually under it feeding! My other SIL was the complete opposite and whapped her boobs out without a care in the world. I'd like to think I'll be somewhere between the two - I don't feel the need to 'hide' that I'm breastfeeding but equally, I agree with Bee, I'd like to be able to do it discreetly smile

Redcliff Wed 22-Jan-14 20:34:00

Hi Ms Bon and welcome. Just jump in whenever you like.

I managed 7 months bf and did mornings and evenings for the next 5 months as I was back at work. I found it hard at first but once I got going it was good. Not sure how its going to work this time - last time I just fed on demand and fitted dinner, bath times and so on around it. This time I will have a 7 year old to consider so how is that going to work? I am not a big routine fan but may have consider becoming one.

I am sure I flashed people at some point - might have to check those cover things out .

Jessiebaba Wed 22-Jan-14 20:36:36

Welcome Ms Bon smile

noseymcposey Wed 22-Jan-14 20:37:39

I didn't really mind feeding in public except for the fact that I have rather large boobs and it was logistically quite difficult! The only way I seemed to be able to feed is if DS was on a pillow which isn't always practical when out and about!

20 week scan all went well today and we found out that we are having a...................girl! I feel so so lucky as we won't have any more after this (not planned anyway!) and will have a DS and a DD. I would have been very happy with another DS though as I adore the one I've got! DP has two boys from a previous marriage so a girl in the household will be something quite different and as one of my friends pointed out if it had been another boy I would have been outnumbered 5-1!

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 20:47:45

Congratulations nosey number 3 girl!

LadyGoneGaga Wed 22-Jan-14 20:57:18

I breastfed both of mine despite no one in our family breastfeeding. The first I fed until 2.5 years and the second self-weaned herself at about 9 months. I was lucky in that beyond the first few says or sore nipples etc I had no issues at all and enjoyed the convenience. Had no qualms at all about feeding in public - I like to think I developed a knack of being pretty discrete even without a special nursing cover. Would just wear the right clothes - wearing two vests is brilliant as you can pull one up and one down and very little is exposed. And you can always drape a muslin over the area too.

Hopefully it will all work out again this time as cannot be arsed to faff with bottles full time. But nobody should be beating themselves or others up about their feeding choices, as long as you are actually feeding the baby!

Sad fact of child rearing is that somebody has always got a bloody opinion about everything and are not shy of sharing it with you hmm. The amount of shit and "hilarious" bitty jokes I got off people for breastfeeding until 2. Just master the nod, smile, ignore manoevre early on.

Mitchell2 Wed 22-Jan-14 21:14:21

Congrats nosey glad it went well

Jessiebaba Wed 22-Jan-14 21:15:30

Congratulations nosey! I'm so excited that there is another girl in the group grin Still over a week until we find out...

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 21:22:25

lady my DM was constantly trying to stop me feeding with snide comments. Plus actually giving DD a bottle of formula when I was asleep once. I never felt comfortable sleeping again when DM had DD.

ElizaB3 Wed 22-Jan-14 21:24:47

Congratulations Nosey that's lovely news
Wasn't your scan today too Riblet?
Mine was fine, the images weren't as clear as last time, but all healthy which is the main thing.
DH got to feel his first kick today, that was a nice moment.
We're not finding out the sex, but we both think its a boy.

That's our last NHS scan now isn't it, anyone else getting private scans between now & due date? Any recommendations for 3D/4D scans?

MarlenaGru Wed 22-Jan-14 21:51:11

I might do a 3D one with DD around her birthday so she can see the baby Eliza I went somewhere near Maidstone in Kent last time... Not sure this time!

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 22:14:53

When I said I hated feeding in public - I def admire those jar do & wish more did. I'd love to have been comfortable doing it, I just wasn't. And yes I agree with whoever said they hate that ppl berate you for being uncomfortable.

For me I ended up so blistered & sore despite no expert being able to find any latch issue - that I was using nipple shields (the only thing that kept me going). Getting them on discreetly was near impossible as my baby would end up throwing them off. Then - I had a near manic Breastfeeding baby he would feed then suddenly throw his head backwards exposing me or kick his legs & wave his arms around whilst feeding meaning no scarf or top etc could possibly stay in the right place. And on top of that I am sensitive to judgemental looks.

I spent much of my 6 months either avoiding leaving the house at the wrong time or hiding in changing rooms etc & a hungry baby is really not happy to wait while you rush to find somewhere to feed them & people really do give some looks if you push a pram with a screaming young baby in it that you're not doing anything about.

The embarrassment type issues I could live with again just not for 6 months but the absolute agony I endured - never again. This baby gets 2 weeks if they're not nice to me after that I will attempt to express enough for a feed a day but Breastfeeding made me miserable and I'm not doing that again.

Please don't feel bad though loads of people love it - my Aunt said she practically had to force herself to wean at an appropriate time because she felt so close and loving when Breastfeeding & she wasn't phased in slightest about whipping everything in to place. I hope as many of you as possible get an experience like that! smile

Redcliff Wed 22-Jan-14 22:17:02

Congrats Nosey - how exciting

Marlena - I can't believe your DM fed your baby formula behind your back. My DS had an operation when he was little and I found the nurse trying to give him some formula afterwards (which he refused) which I thought was bad enough.

CleverOl10 Wed 22-Jan-14 22:23:25

Congrats Nosey how lovely for you.

BEEwitched Wed 22-Jan-14 22:25:02

Eliza - I decided to have a private scan at 29 weeks as you get a check-up scan back home so just felt more comfortable having it; the only one I could find had a 3D/4D element which I could've done without, but I do get another scan DVD which I like!

I'm just going with the local Babybond clinic - while the private consultant I went to for my nuchal scan was ok, their follow up was really bad and they were much more expensive.

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 22:28:05

Congratulations Nosey how exciting for your house!!

Marlena & Redcliff both of those examples are awful how dare someone give your baby without permission they wouldn't pick one up & start bf them would they?!!! A midwife should definitely have known better too!

I felt a lot of pressure (more my own knowledge) to Breastfeed & was certain I would id never even considered it might be tough. I remember just crying once when he was crying because I just didn't want to feed him & go through the pain & I felt such a failure & guilty. But I also had lots of pressure from people to bottle feed. I really felt like I was a failure whatever I did tbh. I'm hoping I take to it more easily next time.

Has anyone who's had 2 already found Breastfeeding has been easier with the second? I'm really hoping it is as deep down I would really like to be able to do it to 6 months again

Bumblebeesmum Wed 22-Jan-14 22:29:19

I've got my gender scan tomorrow and I'm really nervous they're going to tell me something's seriously wrong. I know it's silly but I just want it over with now so I can relax & obviously be excited about whichever it is!!

MarlenaGru Thu 23-Jan-14 08:08:09

redcliff she was allergic to dairy too although not diagnosed at that point so no doubt it didn't make her feel good either. Just an example of why DM did not help my mental health when DD was a baby but she can't understand why I think that.

Riblet Thu 23-Jan-14 08:40:41

Welcome Mrs Bon and congrats on your girl Nosey smile

Glad to hear your scan went well Eliza and yes, ours was yesterday as well. All well for both of them, one wouldn't keep still and one was lazy and wouldn't move which was a pain when she wanted it to roll over to look at the spine, as she kept jabbing me with the scanner to try and get it to move! All measurements were right for age and due date still the same but the MW said something about induction if we got to 37 weeks so has put 21st May on my MATB1 - I should've paid more attention (there was a long wait and we had to get back to work so were rushing a bit) and got her to put the proper due date on for ML purposes, but since I'm still planning to go at 32 weeks I suppose it doesn't really make any difference, except that I'll need to get the form in earlier. As for induction etc, I thought that was more for identicals as higher risk but I'll find out more next time- it wasn't our usual MW and I think we saw this one as it was so busy, so hopefully we'll get our own next time as I much prefer her.

I mentioned this on FB yesterday but if anyone's not on it, I was wondering if anyone had any experience or advice of taking newborns to a wedding? One of my best friends has just got engaged and is already planning the wedding for this August. If she wasn't such a close friend I think I'd probably decide it was more trouble than it's worth but I'd really like to go. Has anyone taken young babies with them, or had someone look after them and pop back to feed them? Need to check if babies are invited first but thinking about the best way of doing things confused

Good luck to all having scans today - Bumble, you will be fine!

Redcliff Thu 23-Jan-14 08:49:59

Bumble - I have the same feeling before every scan and always say to my DP "lets not go" (I always go if course) let us know how you get on.

Marlena - mums can be like that sometimes. Mines a trained psychotherapist and can still drive me and my brother mad. Not to your extent - she didn't really get breast feeding but didn't really say anything about it.

Vickyvix Thu 23-Jan-14 10:01:14

Congrats nosey that's lovely news.

Good luck to those with scans today, 10 days and counting until ours

Lmf679 Thu 23-Jan-14 11:00:58

Riblet I didn't have any kids at my wedding, purely because we would have 52 if they all came! But two of my friends had newborns at the time so I said they could bring them as I really wanted them to come and enjoy the day as was aware they were both first time mums and breastfeeding, as they are a newborn they will not need a 'space' at the table so it shouldn't be a problem as they can be in a pram or car seat at the dinner. I'm sure if you speak to your friend she would understand. They were really good and slept most of the time, the Dad's took them out to another room a few times when they were a bit grisly but to be honest it didn't make a difference to me with them there, I was glad my friends could come to the wedding. I think you would feel more comfortable taking the baby with you as you can feed when needed and won't have to worry about having to go home and feed.

mylittlel Thu 23-Jan-14 11:24:13

Ladies do you know if we are going to have anymore scans after 20 weeks scan?

noseymcposey Thu 23-Jan-14 11:53:40

I took DS to a wedding when he was about 8 weeks (I think!) and it was fine. He was still at an age where he would either lie in the pram or just be held... (more the latter!) so we did have to do a bit of passing him between DP and I while we ate but there were a few other children there so didn't feel like a burden. It was a bit tricky finding somewhere to breastfeed other than sitting on the toilet.. nice! But that may/may not be relevant. They aren't too much trouble at the age so I certainly wouldn't rule it out. Even at a no-children wedding tiny babies are often allowed because they don't require a seat.

Don't know if this is true of all babies but DS seemed to be able to sleep through a ridiculous amount of noise at that age so in the end he fell asleep in his pram while DP and I had a bit of a dance which was lovely!

noseymcposey Thu 23-Jan-14 11:54:27

mylittlel no scans after 20 weeks on the NHS unless there is an issue!

BEEwitched Thu 23-Jan-14 12:38:48

Oh, one more note about breastfeeding/feeding choices that occured to me yesterday - I think my biggest problem is that it is a continuation of people trying to take over decisions about what you do with your body, after 9 months of pregnancy.

I mentioned to my mom yesterday that we had to start organising her 60th birthday bash and jokingly said how I love a buffet - and she immediately said "But no gassy foods!". I was like, excuse me?

"Well, if you're going to be breastfeeding you can't eat things that would bother baby!"

As if I need to give her one more reason of trying to control what I eat....

noseymcposey Thu 23-Jan-14 13:37:10

On the plus side you need extra calories when breastfeeding! I lost lots of weight in spite of craving chocolate icecream/chocolate milkshakes etc etc. I did not eat as well as I could have done when bfeeding but that was definitely a perk smile

I was very unsure about whether it was something I wanted to do while I was pregnant but once DS was here, even though a lot of the time I didn't enjoy I just couldn't/wouldn't give it up. I think I rather fixated on doing 'well' at breastfeeding because I 'hadn't done well' at birthing him. Which is ridiculous obviously but birth/babies/hormones do weird stuff to your head!

On some occasions, feeding him also gave me the biggest sense of well-being that I have ever had- it was both the most special and also the most claustrophobic experience of my life!

I doubt I'm alone in having a somewhat complicated relationship with bfing smile but I am hoping I'm a bit more chilled this time round as I was a little erm, 'intense' when DS was a newborn!!

MarlenaGru Thu 23-Jan-14 15:26:11

Totally agree nosey I found it great in so many ways but awful in so many others! I hated never being able to escape without dh declaring DD was hungry (ie she is crying and I CBA to figure out why so I will hand her to you for feeding!) but also loved that despite all the things going on only I could feed her and these enormous breasts I have hated my whole life actually had a really wonderful purpose finally! Complex indeed.

jaykay987 Thu 23-Jan-14 15:36:01

mylittle I have a growth scan booked in at 34weeks. Consultant mentioned it, as there may be a little too much of "me" when mw measures with a tape measure, and so they'll do a scan to check baby is growing ok.
Almost a polite way of referring to my belly. Almost!

mylittlel Thu 23-Jan-14 15:46:48

jaykay sonographer wrote that im above average when tried to measure baby on a dating scan (i was shocked), but told me that baby was too small (2 completely opposite things), so i wont be surprised if they say something like this to me)

SarahAnderson Thu 23-Jan-14 15:50:51

Great to see the wedding stories today. We also have a summer wedding to go to (I guess lots of us will, it is the season!) and wondering how it will be with a six week old. We will also have to fly there... My sister flew with her three day old baby so I'm not too concerned about this bit!

Riblet Thu 23-Jan-14 15:57:41

Thanks for all the advice re. weddings. Sarah - 3 days old?! That's brave! The one we're going to isn't too far away but would probably have to stay over. Also thinking about what to wear - not sure if I kept any of my dressy fat clothes so may have to be a tent maternity dress (am guessing I'll still be pretty big!)

Liquidambar Thu 23-Jan-14 16:17:27

we had our scan today. it was such a nice experience. the sonographer was great and made things so much easier. all is well with this little boy! another one on the football team smile

MarlenaGru Thu 23-Jan-14 16:25:29

riblet one tip re breastfeeding and wedding - it is almost impossible to breastfeed in a dress without either exposing yourself or ruining the dress! I was probably a size bigger round my bottom and had a very wobbly tummy for a month or two afterwards. I think the bottom wore off quicker than the wobbles! A nice stretchy wrap dress might be the answer as you can access to feed and it will fit whatever your shape. Maybe dark to hide any persistent bumpy bits!

liquid congratulations on your boy!

SicknSpan Thu 23-Jan-14 16:31:26

Hello all. Just checking in, my due date has changed to 30th May so I am keeping an eye on both threads!

Glad things are progressing smoothly for most of us.

At 20 week scan a fortnight ago was told that placenta was totally covering cervix. Will be scanned at a later date as the chances are that it will move out of the way as my uterus stretches upwards but it's still worrying me as it will mean a planned csection at 38 weeks. I know in my head logically that as long as baby and I are healthy then it doesn't matter which way it comes out, but after 2 v straightforward vaginal births/recoveries (huge thankfulness for these) the thought of the unknown is FREAKING. ME. OUT.

I have had such rough pgs with hyperemesis that I sort of believed that I was "rewarded" for it with my 5 hour labours. I was even looking forward to it- freak that I am. Feel a bit low about it all if I'm honest sad

LadyGoneGaga Thu 23-Jan-14 17:21:54

Try not to worry yet, Sick. As they said, the most likely outcome is that it will move out of the way. And even if it doesn't (and I reckon it will) friends who have had planned sections found that they were worlds apart from emergency sections in terms of stress/time to recover etc.

Bumblebeesmum Thu 23-Jan-14 18:29:50

Sicknspan most things they monitor for turn out to remedy themselves but of course you feel low. My sister was very upset at idea of c section with a fairly last minute turned breech baby. She agreed to have some sort of weird procedure where they jig it about from outside but as soon as she was given the relaxant drug the baby just turned round. There is a very good chance your baby will do the same & if not a planned c sec far better than unplanned

And....

I'm having a girl! I bloody knew it - surrounded by girls with 1st I had a boy now you're all machine like willy makers I was guaranteed to have a girl haha ! Already planning how to get rid of all my baby boy stuff as no excuse for it to take over the entire house anymore!! smile smile

Redcliff Thu 23-Jan-14 18:40:34

Congrats liquid and bumble - how exciting.

Sick - I can so see where your coming from. Pregnancy already messes with your hormones so any news can feel extra bad. My age means a CS is more likely so may be in the same boat as you soon.

Redcliff Thu 23-Jan-14 18:41:05

On a completely different note I went to big bosses leaving drinks last night , had half a white wine spritzer and felt drunk and sick. Did get a kebab on the way home which helped .

Big boss told me I looked more pregnant than 20 weeks ( which is true) but not sure I appreciate it being pointed out. One of my friends told me I was enormous last time when I was about 30 weeks - I did not like that at all!!!!!!

Bumblebeesmum Thu 23-Jan-14 19:03:34

Redcliff my friend did the same to me last time about that point today - saw her today & she said 'you look different this time - you were an absolute elephant last time'
Hahahaha thanks for that smile smile

Bumblebeesmum Thu 23-Jan-14 19:04:16

Redcliff that made no sense - friend did same to me about that point ie 30 weeks then saw her today etc haha

ElizaB3 Thu 23-Jan-14 19:15:51

Congrats on the girl Bumble
Finally updating myself to correct place on the list:

May
Monday 26th -
BEEwitched

Wednesday 28th -
Sasafraz

Thursday 29th -
Penguin13
Winkly

Friday 30th -
SicknSpan

Saturday 31st -
Bezzabelle
bee024

June
Sunday 1st -
highlandfling10
grainofrice
WooWooCaChoo
cjbk1

Monday 2nd -
bludgerwitch
monkeybananas
GillyWillyBilly - DC1/gender??

Tuesday 3rd -
Mezzaluna
carrie105

Wednesday 4th -
wispaxmas
Seatfor5
Loudandlarge

Thursday 5th -
MAgirl75
Katsan
Cheesysmile

Friday 6th -
Mrs MLB
Norah Vanstone
CarrotCakeMuffins
AuntPittyPat

Saturday 7th -
adaloveslace
MrsCharlieD

Sunday 8th -
LondonSuperTrooper
barnsey14
Winglet

Monday 9th -
Hannahc1989
Hackneybird
ElizaB3 - DC1/Gender?

Tuesday 10th -
Snowlet
Threefromdesire
Twinsmonplusone
noseymcposey
Minaleeds

Wednesday 11th -
Kirsty4609
TheMoonInJune
CleverOl10
Riblet - DC1&2 (twins) / gender ??

Thursday 12th -
squiglet
Giraffelegs
Ginandstripes
Redcliff

Friday 13th -
Mixology
Gingerandcocoa
NessieMcFessie
Londoncitymum
typhoonsmum
Mumof5plusazoo

Saturday 14th -
blondiedollface
Poetschild
sebsmummy1
MinaLeeds
Sareva - DC3/boy

Sunday 15th -
liquidambar
Hackneybird
Chestnutmare
Summerbaby2014
MTMD 15th

Monday 16th -
RaRa1988
Mitchell2 -DC1/Girl
pomdereplay - DC2/Girl

Tuesday 17th -
MrsGasMan
Sussex31
Ohcluttergotme

Wednesday 18th -
WifeofGru
Bellygazing
Mrs.Bon

Thursday 19th -
Panicmechanic

Friday 20th -
Beckala
VickyVix
Unoriginalusername123
Annabanana25
mylittlel

Saturday 21st -
MarlenaGru
Bellygrazing

Sunday 22nd -
Sheilatakeabow
SarahAnderson
Lmf679
Angelina77
Misshoohaa

Wednesday 25th -
Emmazers
Ladygonegaga

Thursday 26th -
Bumblebeesmum
Coocoocachoo
Cherryjellybean

Friday 27th -
Simpatico
Biffle
Wickedwiggle86
Mynameiswinkly
Jaykay987
Kittybubbles
superlambanana
Rainbowweaver

Saturday 28th -
Batmam
Stacks
Carks31

Sunday 29th -
PoppySeed2014

Monday 30th -
Jessiebaba

July
Tuesday 1st -
Mrsb2013

????????-
catslicer
airyfairy123
SparklyMasterMummy
kirstlovestea
Junebaby2014
Kittygirl33
Girlsgotink85
Summer29
Pussycat
Coldofhandsg

Redcliff Thu 23-Jan-14 19:59:23

Do you know bumble- your first post did make sense to me - does that mean I am on these boards to much ?

CleverOl10 Thu 23-Jan-14 23:18:49

Congrats liquid and bumble. One more for each side!

Good morning ladies!

Just popping in to say hello - I am terrible at keeping up with this thread! It is so exciting to see all the news and scans etc.

I had a 20 wk scan yesterday and all well - expecting a little boy to go with our 2 year old DD - very happy but also slightly worried - what on earth do you do with a boy!?

Been a rough few months - in and out of hospital - also (like stacks) got problems with severe abdn. pains - I have been told not to worry but it is hard!

And of course there is the wee revolution going on here at the moment - all very dramatic. Not to mention the bloody weather - tis -20 today!

Upthread someone (I think Gilly) was talking about a 'short cervix"? I am constantly told that mine is very short....and DD was only 4 days early so (touch wood) it hasn't been a problem for me!

Happy Friday everyone!

Bumblebeesmum Fri 24-Jan-14 08:25:55

Nessie boys are gorgeous so cuddly & not like girls practically wanting to leave home at 2 haha
Also you can just sort of keep your nose away & clean their bottom & willy any which way goodness knows how ill train myself to not do that with a girl haha
My boy does like to climb and run and destroy everything though....even the tv is no substitute for the furniture aka climbing apparatus smile

Thanks Bumble - it is the climbing and destroying I am worried about! My DD likes to quietly 'sort' things - it is wonderful!

Redcliff Fri 24-Jan-14 08:45:16

Congrats Nessie - I have the same thoughts about girls "what would I do with one" - we think we are having another boy but will find out on Wednesday .

Sunbeam18 Fri 24-Jan-14 09:03:49

Just sticking my nose in as saw the title of this thread - I was on the June 2013 antenatal thread so am a year ahead of you all. My gorgeous wee boy will be 7 months old tomorrow! I was due on 18 June and he was born on 25 June. I so remember this time lady year when we found out he was a boy! Good luck with the next 20 weeks and beyond - it's all worth it. A year from now your sons and daughters will be sitting up, giggling, babbling, cutting teeth and eating porridge!

AmelieRose Fri 24-Jan-14 09:06:30

I am coming late but can I join? First DC due on June 19th. 20 week scan next week...

SarahAnderson Fri 24-Jan-14 11:47:11

Sunbeam, how lovely of you to post! I love how these buses are like time capsules. I peeked at the January bus to see what our future holds... Was a bit scary!

noseymcposey Fri 24-Jan-14 12:15:09

Nessie boys are fabulous! I was freaked out by having one first time round but at 2.9 his favourite things are cuddles/jigsaw puzzles/colouring/running/football/dance/playing with his friends/'pretend' type games... so not so different to little girls I don't think? smile

Biffle Fri 24-Jan-14 13:15:14

Just read a really interesting post on another site and wondered what you ladies thought ....

The question was where do you intend / where does your newborn sleep during the day?

Every answer on the thread (so far) said mosed basket / crib / pram / bouncy chair / travel cot in the lounge. Both my DD's slept in the nursery for all their naps - morning, lunch and afternoon - unless we were out and about and it never occurred to me to do otherwise. I (personally) can't see why baby would have a different sleep place for daytime / nightime once they are in some kind of routine as surely it just makes settling them at night even harder if they are used to sleeping downstairs the rest of the time. Am I missing something? Are my views that unusual?

jaykay987 Fri 24-Jan-14 13:26:38

Biffle - I have friends that do the same as you plan.

However, the current SIDS advice, is that a newborn sleeps in the same rooms as an adult until they are 6months old. It is something to do with hearing another heartbeat to help ensure regularity of their heart beat (or something like that).
Given most people don't plan to sit upstairs in the bedroom every time their baby has a nap - many people now seem to plan to have a Moses basket or something that is downstairs in the living room.

noseymcposey Fri 24-Jan-14 13:30:28

What sort of age Biffle? Once DS was sleeping in his own room at night (6months) he had all his naps up there, in his cot. Up until then most of them were on me!

Is it because you can let them fall asleep on you and then transfer them to something nearby? or because they are more likely to nod off in a bouncy chair? I like the idea of the baby sleeping in their cot for all naps but not sure it would have happened. I think if DS has fallen asleep downstairs and then I'd carried him up to the bedroom he might have woken up? Not sure to be honest - what you say is very logical and I can't really remember why I didn't do that!

Biffle Fri 24-Jan-14 13:31:49

SIDS guidelines were the same when DDs were born too but neither would settle in our room so both went straight into the nursery when they came out of hospital and used a monitor. I know babies have sensitive hearing but can't imagine they can her another heartbeat from across the room?

noseymcposey Fri 24-Jan-14 13:31:56

Oh yes! much more sensible answer jaykay blush

I think I need to swot up again!

noseymcposey Fri 24-Jan-14 13:33:03

I thought it was hearing someone else breathing that was the thing?

Redcliff Fri 24-Jan-14 14:44:44

Hi MRose - lovely to have another new joiner.

I have read its to do with the breathing - I think the general thinking is that no one really knows but the breathing thing is best guess and there is a statistical correlation between babies sleeping in the same room as patent and a drop in SIDS.

My DS would sleep for such tiny amounts if he wasn't on me I gave up and he mummy naps until I went back to work. Great excuse for not doing any housework!

Bumblebeesmum Fri 24-Jan-14 15:31:14

Biffle it's the adult breathing which is why it's recommended close to bed as possible...but my mum does post-mortems on cot death (sorry to be so morbid) & there are a number of risk factors - whether they're in your bed (accidental co sleeping highest risk) whether there is a smoking parent but by far she believes the biggest factor is whether they sleep on their back or not. I had to put James on his front sometimes when he just couldn't sleep on his back & I felt guilty but you just have to read up on it all know the advice & do your best in as many ways as possible depending on the hand you're dealt smile

Bumblebeesmum Fri 24-Jan-14 15:35:25

Some are prob thinking co sleeping huh that can't be right it's a diff set of benefits & risks - & yes that's completely true but in v little babies Doctors can't tell the causes apart so it ends up in same statistics (basically a v little one can't fight suffocation by sheets or body so looks like SIDS & many parents will never know either way)

Again sorry to be so morbid - please remember it's v rare

BEEwitched Fri 24-Jan-14 15:44:54

I've settled on bed in the room with us, but baby not in bed with us - depending on how frayed my nerves get I might either follow UK guidelines which say for 6 months or German advice which says 1 year.

I'm used to having a 1,40m bed all to myself, I find our king size bed with DH in it challenging at times, no way would I stick a baby in there, as well. I know I tortured my parents and crawled into bed with them much longer than they'd preferred, but at least a standard double bed there is 2 metres!

BEEwitched Fri 24-Jan-14 15:45:35
SarahAnderson Fri 24-Jan-14 15:49:20

I'm planning on using an NCT bed nest.

MarlenaGru Fri 24-Jan-14 16:09:11

DD's naps were usually in a cat seat or pram (napping rarely happened unless she was in motion) or on me and I hope it is the same this time. Once she was 6 months and a bit (tiny) better at sleeping I put her in her cot for naps. Only really at about 9 months when I was going back to work did she start napping for longer in her cot with a lot of effort from me! I remember her sleeping happily in her pram and I would tip toe into the house and pray she would stay asleep long enough for me to have a cup of tea but as soon as the door opened she would wake up every single time.

MarlenaGru Fri 24-Jan-14 16:13:04

And in bed I have a crib but am under no illusions that the baby will sleep anywhere other than on me. I hate co sleeping with a passion (I need my space!) but I hate not sleeping at all a lot more.

OneintheOven2014 Fri 24-Jan-14 16:20:04

New to MN - hi ladies! Our little bean is due 22nd June - can i play in your group too please? Looking forward to sharing the journey x

Lmf679 Fri 24-Jan-14 16:33:21

Nice to see a few new people joining this week. Welcome everyone!

Redcliff Fri 24-Jan-14 16:46:48

Hi one in the oven - good to have you here.

Dam you SarahAnderson - now I want one of those NCT bed nests - they look great. Last time we have a moses basket in our room which DS hated so he ended up in our bed (we were fig 1 on Bee's great link) . I can see the bed nest being a great compromise.

GillyBillyWilly Fri 24-Jan-14 17:53:05

Welcome newbies and hello everyone! Haven't been on here much recently. Our Facebook group is thriving and has diverted me away from mumsnet!

Does anyone want to join the Facebook group? It's totally private so none of your fb friends can even see or find the group... Only people IN the group can access it/see posts etc.

It's great as we are all getting to know each other and sharing photos, room ideas, pushchairs, scan pictures... All sorts!

If you want to join, send me a message with your email address and I will send you an invite.

And I will try to be on here more often as well!!!! smile

Mitchell2 Fri 24-Jan-14 17:54:13

Welcome new people, come on join the fun on Facebook!

Mitchell2 Fri 24-Jan-14 18:00:12

Re the sleeping, I was going to get a bed nest as well and maybe a basket for downstairs, but just saw this basket.

pretty cool just need to remember the baby isn't washing!

Stacks Fri 24-Jan-14 18:54:52

I co slept with my DS for the first 6 months or so, meant I got loads more sleep and so did he. We were given different advice and statistics on our nct course, basically saying cosleeping was the safest option to avoid SIDS risks. The reason it's classified as unsafe in the media and general records is because it includes accidental cosleeping and risk factor parents in the statistics. If you take out people who accidentally fall asleep with their baby in bed (or the worst, the sofa) then the statistics are actually much better. I read something a while back suggesting SIDS had increased since cosleeping started being advised against - exhausted mums are too scared to sleep in bed with their babies, so sit on the sofa instead, and fall asleep there. Which is far, far, far worse than planning to cosleep from the beginning and doing it safely.

Stacks Fri 24-Jan-14 19:00:24

This is a great site

http://www.isisonline.org.uk

www.isisonline.org.uk

(Using the app so trying two ways of making it link...)

Bumblebeesmum Fri 24-Jan-14 19:52:00

Since campaign on SIDS started in 1991 cot deaths have reduced by 70%. The ratio is I think from memory 60:40 boys to girls - mostly within 1st 3 months & low birth weight are at a 4x higher risk.

Re cosleeping there are quite a number of reports suggesting cosleeping increases risk dramatically & account for over a third of all cot deaths. A recent one estimates & increased risk of around 5x.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22594587

But cosleeping is also lovely & a great way to bond. I think it's particularly good if Breastfeeding as you don't have to get up. I'm not against cosleeping whatsoever I think for me I will look at one of those attach to the bed crib things (if I can find one I can afford!) but different people approach risk differently. It is still only a couple of hundred babies a year which I know sounds like a long but of 130k born it really is a very low risk so I would still cosleep without pillows & all that stuff if you want to

Bumblebeesmum Fri 24-Jan-14 19:53:19

Oh & my personal reason for not even considering cosleeping is not the risk at all I really don't find that bothering it's the fact I tried it for a few nights & slept so unbelievably badly & woke up with such back ache where I think my body froze with the awareness of him being in the bed. So my reasons are completely selfish!! smile

Just wanted to pop on to say hi to new mums to be joining thread.
Have to say not been great at keeping up with this thread since joining Facebook group.
Just caught tailend of chat re co-sleeping. Bumblebee I'm totally with you and wouldn't due to selfish reasons as don't sleep with little one next me and lie really awkwardly so as not to wake baby!

CleverOl10 Fri 24-Jan-14 21:36:21

Both me and my ds are wriggly sleepers so I chose a Moses basket instead and kept it right next to my side of the bed so when he cried I could actually bf him without getting up or even waking dh!

Bezzabelle Fri 24-Jan-14 21:38:05

I'm not on Facebook so can't join so will hope that people stick on here a bit too.

We co-slept a little out of pure desperation as ds would not sleep in Moses basket but after a few weeks, I tried harder to get him to settle in Moses basket as kept waking in a panic that either I or dh had squashed him in our sleep!

Can't get enough of milk at the moment, anyone else having any cravings?

Also saw consultant today who booked my c section date, very very odd feeling knowing when baby going to come!

sisterofcaleb Fri 24-Jan-14 21:50:52

Hey ladies,

I am just a lurker on this thread (due 20th June) but reading main thrust of todays posts thought people might be interested in this cot:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WALDIN-Baby-Beistellbett-Wiege-Babybett-BUCHE-VOLLMASSIV-hohenverstellbar/360442200566?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D4351404835241772505%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D360740316845%26

It's from a German company who ship internationally on ebay. You can email them and ask questions about safety standards etc. We got it last time, cost 100 euros including the shipping which is about £85/£90 - considerably less than the bednest at £300!!

We found it perfect - it has a platform (pictured) which means you get a flush connection to your bed and you can adjust several different heights. It matched up with our bed perfectly.

It's pretty dinky (as are most side sleepers), but quite a lot bigger than a moses basket. I wouldn't want one any bigger as you can't get out of bed otherwise! Would last til 6 months easily.

I actually had a pretty hard time sleeping in the same room as my wee boy as his every snuffle woke me up but we did this for 12 weeks (and will be doing again for as long as it works this time) then put the side on the cot and moved into his own room.

Hope that helps.

Mitchell2 Fri 24-Jan-14 23:11:35

Thanks sister that looks fab

ElizaB3 Sat 25-Jan-14 01:33:35

You can hire the bed nest; £109 for six months -

http://www.nctshop.co.uk/NCT-Bednest-Rental-for-6-months/productinfo/4364R/

It comes with new fabric sides; makes it much more affordable. You'd sell a new one after 6 months anyway. We'll be getting one; it seems the best of all options to me, plus I love the design

sisterofcaleb Sat 25-Jan-14 07:43:42

Forgot to say if you want to recreate the mesh barrier between yourself and the bed that the bednest has then you can buy an airwrap bumper:

www.tesco.com/direct/airwrap-air-cot-protection-system-2-sided/438-2844.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=438-2844&sc_cmp=pcp_GSF_Nursery%20Furniture_438-2844kpid=438-2844&sc_cmp=ppc_g_{keyword_{matchtype}}

They come for either 2 or 4 sides. They fit cot beds so they are long and you can just attach to the bars of the cot to cover the side that is open to the bed. We did that once my son got a little bigger and would have been even more useful if he stayed in with us longer.

We still use the airwrap bumper to stop his little flailing arms and legs going through the side of the cot and he is a big boy now at 18 months smile

Bumblebeesmum Sat 25-Jan-14 09:17:25

Thank you sister and Eliza def going to look at those options!!

BEEwitched Sat 25-Jan-14 10:23:10

Thanks for that, it loos fabulous!

That's the one I was looking at: www.amazon.de/FabiMax-Beistellbett-Babymax-Matratze-PROTECT/dp/B009WQFPJ4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390575656&sr=8-1&keywords=anstellbett, it's very similar but a bit more expensive.

I love the look of this one, but it's just too small and expensive for what it is: www.amazon.de/babybay-Beistellbett-Baby-Bettchen-Original-extrabelüftet/dp/B00CKL7QH2/ref=pd_cp_by_3

Hello all!

With DD we always tried to use a Moses basket for naps - it just didn't work - she always napped on me or in the bouncy chair. When she was 6-8 months she started going in her room.

We are off to collect a 'big girl' bed for her today and start the transition - from her cot - any tips appreciated!

Poetschild Sat 25-Jan-14 12:42:20

Thank you for the co-sleeping recommendations! We're starting to panic about how much everything is going to cost. Or rather, I'm starting to panic and hubby is in his little dreamworld where he doesn't have to worry about these things.

Poetschild Sat 25-Jan-14 12:42:26

Thank you for the co-sleeping recommendations! We're starting to panic about how much everything is going to cost. Or rather, I'm starting to panic and hubby is in his little dreamworld where he doesn't have to worry about these things.

Poetschild Sat 25-Jan-14 12:42:46

Thank you for the co-sleeping recommendations! We're starting to panic about how much everything is going to cost. Or rather, I'm starting to panic and hubby is in his little dreamworld where he doesn't have to worry about these things.

Redcliff Sat 25-Jan-14 13:11:50

Good luck Nessie - we found just leaving the bed up for a few days with DS still in his cot gave him some time to get used to it and he went in happily. The thing that made me laugh was that he wouldn't get out of it by himself - he would still wait for me as if he was still in his cot.

MarlenaGru Sat 25-Jan-14 13:31:15

redcliff my DD was the same thankfully! I expected her to be up 20 times a night but she waited to be taken out thankfully! Nessie good luck.

Liquidambar Sat 25-Jan-14 21:10:51

Great discussion on co-sleeping. DS never slept on our bed. DH was always against it because he always saw it as a potential risk. This morning I was telling him about the side cots and he said he wouldn't mind having that, because it seems much safer. Who knows what will happen this time around. If this little one feeds every three during the night hours I will definitely consider it.

I gave the majority of DS' clothes to my my cousins. I only kept his preem clothes - so tiny! Today, I decided to wash them (in case this little one arrives earlier as well)
and it was such an emotional moment.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend

hackneybird Sat 25-Jan-14 23:05:56

Hello, haven't been on for a few days as also been sidetracked by the FB group - although I still get massively confused between MN names and real names! Also v busy at work and am trying to use devices less at night time as it has been disturbing my sleep (she says, typing on her iPad at 11pm!).

Husband and son were out all day today so I totally relaxed and did minimal housework. Really needed it as like everyone else I am exhausted. Although my house is filthy - mum is coming to stay in a couple of weekends and I'm going to have to get a cleaner in to do a blitz before she arrives, as I'm too tight to pay for one on a weekly basis.

I'm open minded about breast feeding and co sleeping. I'll see who turns up and how it all goes! DS was happy to sleep in his crib and I breast fed him til 7 months when he self weaned, but the new baby might not play ball. I'd rather not co sleep as I can't imagine one can sleep well when sharing with a baby but we'll see. Plus we only have a standard double so not really big enough - we'd have to get a side car cot.

hackneybird Sat 25-Jan-14 23:10:01

liquid I totally get how emotional it must have been sorting your DS' baby clothes. In a peculiar way I am dreading going though my DS old clothes as I am prone to being maudlin and I know I'll only get all upset at how fast he is growing;)

On another thread about this subject I saw that once their children are grown a bit some mums use a service called 'baby to bears' - they have their most treasured old baby clothes made into teddies and I think that's a lovely idea. She has an FB page and the teddies are really nice, not naff at all as I had first feared!

MarlenaGru Sun 26-Jan-14 08:45:34

Oh wow hackney that is a sweet idea!
I gave most of DD's clothes away but kept the most precious ones. It is always difficult looking at them for so many reasons.

GillyBillyWilly Sun 26-Jan-14 08:53:58

Just marking my place as the thread jumped off my active thread list!
I'm always lurking but forget to post! Hope everyone is well smile

mimi74 Sun 26-Jan-14 10:17:39

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CleverOl10 Sun 26-Jan-14 10:20:42

We had a cot blanket made from DS's baby clothes. It is a lovely keepsake, hoping to find a similar company this time too.

Jessiebaba Sun 26-Jan-14 10:25:10

18 weeks and I'm definitely feeling the little one wriggling about in there! grin He/she was very good at keeping me awake in the cinema last night when I was seriously regretting going to see a 3-hour long film!

Redcliff Sun 26-Jan-14 15:15:38

Really shattered today - friend cane over yesterday and we took her DS and mine to a nearby forest. It normally takes us an hour to get there on the bus but in her car it took15 mins - hooray. Stayed up late. DS up at 7.15 and then trip to Ikea with boys this morning thanks to DP. All I want to do is sit on the sofa but have promised DP

Stacks Sun 26-Jan-14 16:33:59

The cosleeping discussion was interesting, but if you decide to read up on it you really have to look carefully at what studies are quoted and how well they've been summarised. That bbc article is a case in point, though the research done was useful, the conclusions drawn were a bit scare mongering. Here's unicefs response, if you're interested.

www.unicef.org.uk/BabyFriendly/News-and-Research/News/UNICEF-UK-Baby-Friendly-Initiative-statement-on-new-bed-sharing-research/

I got lots of my clothes for DS from my sister, so they didn't really have the same emotional tie I think. It's amazing to look back at how small he was though!

CleverOl10 Sun 26-Jan-14 17:11:19

Ordered our pram today. Didn't want to spend too much so really pleased that this just cost £250 - the xpedior from Mothercare. Got it in plum!

www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Xpedior-Colour-Pack---Liquorice/729140,default,pd.html

One job down....

Vickyvix Sun 26-Jan-14 17:11:22

Hi ladies, have been away for a few days so still catching up. Went shopping today for beach holiday stuff - what a mistake! There's nothing in the shops as wrong time of year and I'm still finding any maternity clothes hideous and frumpy. Think I'll resort to online shopping instead.

Still on countdown to scan day....7 days and counting smile

CleverOl10 Sun 26-Jan-14 17:12:26

Ooh and the car seat was included in that price!

Vickyvix Sun 26-Jan-14 17:12:37

clever love the pram smile looks great

CleverOl10 Sun 26-Jan-14 19:01:18

Thanks Vicky grin

Redcliff Sun 26-Jan-14 20:16:48

Realized I didn't finish last post - nothing to exciting just that I had promised DP that I would clean the kitchen with him. Got it done - looks much better.

Clever - that is the pram I have been eyeing up! I like the blue but the rest of the colors are also lovely. One of the mums in the playground has it and next time I see her I am going to ask what she thinks of it (I don't know her al all - I hope she doesn't think I am mad!)

Hope your having a good weekend and really enjoying all the co-sleeping info. Have just joined the FB page (thanks Gilly) - is there any way to tell who is who?

Lmf679 Sun 26-Jan-14 20:47:53

Clever, that pram looks good, I may have to check it out. I've looked online at some but not gone to road test any yet.

Boring day here, I've been trapped in the living room most of the day watching tv whilst DH has painted the whole kitchen and hallway. I'm not complaining, he's been working hard all day, we're trying to get the house all sorted for the little ones arrival and he's been doing most of the work - I guess my hard work will come in June though!

BEEwitched Sun 26-Jan-14 21:14:25

I have all the paint for our house now, today I picked up 6 tins of paint for our bedroom, the kitchen & nursery respectively. Managed to get a 3x2 garden shed for £30, as well, which DH is currently building in the kitchen (madman...). I still have the paint for the hallway here, too...

The nursery paint is wipeable, which I suspect will be a good thing - ended up with a really strong blue/turquoise tone (Dulux Striking Cyan), a I've decided grey/yellow is just a bit too sedate, I want something brighter. I'll probably pair it with soft yellow and grey, and get orange decoration.

Lmf679 Sun 26-Jan-14 21:32:03

Bee, that sounds nice for the nursery, I've not decided on a colour scheme for that yet. I bought a few bits from mamas and papas patternology range today including the tree wall sticker so it might be along those lines as it's quite neutral for a boy or girl.

GillyBillyWilly Mon 27-Jan-14 06:50:16

22 weeks today! ... smile
18 weeks to go.... hmm

grin

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 08:04:30

Stacks I've read the UNICEF link you've posted & it says the risk might not be as much as 5x higher for cosleeping but only 2.7 times higher & that the safest place for your baby to sleep is in a cot by your bed.

My Mum as a Pathologist when starting her career did post-mortems on SIDs every week now it's 1/2 a year at most. But the biggest change noted by the profession is the sleeping position (ie baby on back) not the other factors.

And as I said before 200 out of 732,000 born is a minuscule risk we do far riskier things with our children without thinking about it & if I actually wanted to cosleep I definitely still would. Those who can do it successfully (ie actually relax in bed) seem to enjoy it & it definitely seems the easiest and most natural option but its just too uncomfortable for me.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 08:29:24

Bee you've reminded me we have so much work to do aaaah. I can pain the nursery as it's easy from last time but our dining room needs woodchip removed (omg that stuff is bloody evil) & living room needs holes repaired & sanding work before paint can go on.) It feels like such slow progress! I'm always amazed by people who just move in & have a whole house done in no time!

Vickyvix Mon 27-Jan-14 08:59:55

I did some serious pram research yesterday and am thinking I like the uppababy vista, I tried it in the shop and it seemed good at manoeuvring etc and has a big basket underneath. Need to measure our hallway though, we live in an old Edwardian house with a long narrow hallway so need to check that this pram would actually fit through the door!

redcliff on the fb group there are two documents, one with due dates and genders (if known) and one with a who's who's list of MN names.

6 days to scan.....

BEEwitched Mon 27-Jan-14 09:10:32

Just had a phone appointment with a GP form my practice and he's cleared me (grudgingly) for part-time work and has specified exactly what hours and where I'm allowed to work, so I hope work not wriggle out - of course the area manager I need to speak to is out of office until next week!

Bumblebee We have a few cracks that need closing and some re-grouting to do, but we moved in in November and barely anything is done, and ideally I want every room changed - whatever interior designer did this house up (was the Showhome once upon a time) did it SO not to my taste!

Redcliff Mon 27-Jan-14 09:37:10

I guess one good thing about baby not having his own room is no nursery to paint although we do have lots of other jobs that need doing.

I am sleeping so badly ' Yesterday I woke up at 6 and couldn't get back to sleep again and today it was 3.30 drifted off around 5 but woke up every half hour . I used to be a terrible sleeper so over the years have found having the radio on does the trick but not now ! Also can't take any over the counter sleeping tablets- have only used these in the past as a last resort maybe one every 3 month but missing that option. Have any of you found a cure or anything that helps?

Stacks Mon 27-Jan-14 10:19:39

Bumble, I'd just love to see a study if cosleeping and SIDS where the parents had both made the conscious decision to cosleep, and had an appropriate and safe environment set up for it. We got rid of all pillows and our duvet etc.
I found cosleeping from night 1 (the midwife put DS in bed with me in the hospital, after my CS and while taking morphine!) meant I avoided the crushing exhaustion of being a new mum, so managed to sleep lightly enough to wake to DS before he was even properly awake.

I will say it's not the most comfortable way to sleep though! DS just wouldn't settle his crib, and with silent reflux was up a lot - still 2 hourly at 6 months.

I'm getting a second hand Baby Jogger Citi Select system. Hopefully one I've seen advertised for £300. It's a great, very versatile single to double pram system. Which I'm hoping will last us from new baby till both stop needing a pushchair (DS will be 18m, so I'll need about 18m of a double pushchair I think, maybe less with a buggy board.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 10:32:54

Stacks there are always lots of variables they can't account for for example SIDS in cots will also include pillows blankets or babies on their front etc & so risk will also be 'overstated'. I think it's always good to read up & almost all medical professionals are in consensus that cosleeping is a higher risk but as with lots of things but there are always discrepancies like with what foods we're supposed to eat, how much exercise is too much etc etc. It's impossible to do a properly controlled study on anything I just think it's a bit frustrating that people want to fit the facts to their own personal choices. Epidurals increase risks of certain things but I am very likely to consider having another one. That doesn't mean I would argue that the risks are non existent - I just believe that for me last time & who knows possibly again, the benefits outweighed the risk.

Not to mention there are the SIDS risks that you cannot control like boys being at a much higher risk, low birth weight etc etc. I really don't think it's a decision people should obsess about as I think most will have a natural preference & should just go with that & forget about it - other than obviously doing whichever option as safely as possible ie pillows & blankets & whatever.

I will have a just turned 2 year old & am looking at that pram also. Although he's already happy to walk everywhere & I'm sure a buggy board would be fine - if he has a tantrum or doesn't want to leave etc I do think I will still need the option to strap him down for a bit. Plus it takes so long walking with him!! But doubles are a bit of a minefield

SarahAnderson Mon 27-Jan-14 10:42:22

How do you sleep without pillows or a duvet?? Just a sheet over you and no pillow? Feel like I'm missing something... I need to be tucked up, that sounds like a recipe for no sleep!

MarlenaGru Mon 27-Jan-14 10:55:46

hmm no way I could sleep with no pillows or duvet... Plus being pinned in one spot by a non sleeping baby. As I have said before we reluctantly co slept last time on nights where I just couldn't sit up any longer but whilst Dh got more sleep due to no screaming as she was attached to my breast all night long, I got no more sleep than when I sat up with her!

BEEwitched Mon 27-Jan-14 11:12:59

But it makes sense, baby shouldn't even have a pillow/duvet/bednest/padded side bits in the cot as all those things can increase the risk of SIDS, a sleeping bag with appropriate tog rating is all I'll be using, and maybe a sheepskin cot liner underneath. Yet another reason why this baby is getting his own bed!

MarlenaGru Mon 27-Jan-14 11:23:26

Obviously baby is nowhere near all those things but we need them, surely? DD had a sleeping bag when it got colder or slept in just a sleep suit and vest when warmer.

Gorran Mon 27-Jan-14 11:33:59

Hi all, I'm due 20th June but it'll be another ELCS so probably around 13th June. We had a gender scan at dead on 16w and were told another girl (our third DD!) - 20w scan next Tuesday, hopefully will confirm the same as I'm looking forward to a trio of girls now!

Starting to look at prams, cribs etc. now (we have everything away after our last DD, thinking we wouldn't be having any more, oops) so will be reading this thread with interest.

Gorran Mon 27-Jan-14 11:51:27

To add to the co-sleeping talk, we co-slept with both of our daughters (a decision made by choice, it seemed the natural thing to do, my first DD particularly needed to be close to me - she took all of our daytime sleeps on me until she was 6m) and will do the same this time. We did still use pillows for ourselves but instead of a duvet slept with pjs on (whereas we usually sleep with nothing on) for warmth and used a sheet over us. DD was in a grobag in between the pillows - with the pillows pushed so far to the sides of the bed that they were practically hanging off! You do seem to develop a natural instinct when the baby is in the bed, I slept curled around her and my H slept with his arm in front of him so never rolled over towards her - if that makes sense.

I do like the look of the NCT bednest and may look into hiring one.

wispaxmas Mon 27-Jan-14 13:07:25

Wow, I haven't checked in on mn in ages! Facebook has taken over a bit I have to admit.

I do love the talk of co sleeping, but I know I couldn't do it. I can't sleep without a duvet even in summer, and can't sleep without a clue pillows or I end up wheezing in the night, and my husband is a toss-and-turner! I know there would be some level of instinct that takes over, but I'd much rather have baby next to the bed rather than in it.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 13:41:35

Yes def no pillows is the main one for safe cosleeping. Sleeping without a duvet and pillows for one night would be torture for me I'd feel like I was on a weird boot camp or at a never ending student party if I tried to do it for 6 months. Then combined with freezing up & not moving - no way to cosleeping. But for those that are - thank god it will be summer for you!!

MrsGasMan Mon 27-Jan-14 13:44:08

Hi everyone! I'm so sorry I've been such a terrible lurker here and haven't posted for months! I've been keeping an eye though, and congratulations to everyone on their scans and all your gender news smile!

I have my 20 week scan tomorrow, and DH and I are still undecided about finding out the gender (all being well with everything else obviously-I know sonographers get a bit cross that we all think it's a gender scan and not an anomaly scan!). This is our 2nd, we have a DD and both 'feel' this one is blue, but equally we will probably only have 2 DCs and we found out last time, so a surprise might be nice! What a lovely dilemma to have though smile.

Gilly I will send you a PM if that's ok, this FB group sounds like fun!

Also the bed nest looks amazing! But my dad refurbished my little crib from when I was a baby before my DD was born for her, and it does push quite close to the bed, so I would feel guilty hiring something else... But then I think about begging my DH to lift DD out of the crib for her 2 hourly feeds in the night (she was under 6lbs so had to wake her every 2 hours, grim) and suddenly the bed best nest seems like a very good idea indeed!!

jaykay987 Mon 27-Jan-14 15:23:04

vickyvix I think we'll go for that too. Probably a stupid question....but do you think the width of the hallway is important? We also live in an Edwardian house - but I figured the pram will essentially live in ny car boot. I'll only carry the carseat or bassinet in and out. Have I not thought this through?

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 15:51:57

Jay I def think you need to be able to fit the pram in the house - unless you literally can't / won't walk anywhere from your house not even a local shop etc? Do you have a side gate & a back door that might be easier to get in to?

Redcliff Mon 27-Jan-14 18:36:20

Last time DS went in a gro bag on his back on top of the duvet no where near the pillows - he couldn't roll over and couldn't overheat so bit confused why you would sleep with no pillows or duvet - feel like I am missing something.

Am going to hire a bed nest - did put a bid on an e bay one but lost out .

jaykay987 Mon 27-Jan-14 19:33:30

bumble - yes, side door would easier. but still no logical place to store a buggy except for the garage. we have no internal door - so can't see me putting it in there. I was worried it would need to stand in the corner of the kitchen instead.....but after I thought about, I thought it could live in car boot. Even if Im going for a walk - I have to walk past the car on the drive, so figured it'd use it straight from there. The only time I think I'd throw it in the house is if I'm going out alone - and so would need to move pram to DH car or leave in the house. Plus he might be using a sling, so that might not even be needed. Hmm...maybe my thoughts aren't logical! Not sure now!

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 19:46:00

Jay we don't have a drive so park on street at varying distances so your plan might not be as unrealistic as it first sounded to me considering your 'storage' is right by house. It would be a pain in rain or if baby is asleep you will either need to wait outside or wake them but on the whole probably ok.

Redcliff pillows & duvets along with rolling parents are considered the biggest risk to cosleeping babies & a lot of babies that suffocate had parents that thought one pillow would be ok etc. Most cosleep with baby under duvet (I think - but I'm def no expert) so your option does sound better but I think recommendation is still no as if you pull duvet you could roll baby over in to the bedding, it could easily fold over on to them or you could roll them on to the floor. Chances do seem slim but I think that's the logic for the recommendation anyway.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 19:47:36

Oh and also rolling baby on to floor is not as unlikely as it sounds. We sent our 4 week old flying to the floor by catching a piece of bedding he was lying on having just finished a nightly feed. I think I died for a minute!!!

Redcliff Mon 27-Jan-14 19:59:07

That makes sense - to be honest we were reluctant co sleepers last time. I grew to like it and the best was when DP would go to work and me and DS would have a feed in bed and then a nap until 10 am or so. Those extra 2 hours of sleep were a life saver. Not sure what's going to happen this time round as will have to do the school run twice a day.

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 20:14:49

Redcliff I don't envy those who will have to do school runs!!
I did some super naughty / bad accidental cosleeping once & woke up saw my baby looking at me & nearly had a heart attack which is why I think that bedside attached crib thingie looks ideal for me. smile

SarahAnderson Mon 27-Jan-14 20:15:07

Who's shifted to maternity clothes and who's still in normal gear? I tried on three skirts this morning before I found one that would fit, and started feeling really uncomfortable towards the end of the day. Tights, too. Too tight. Got so uncomfortable that as soon as I arrived home I grabbed a pair of scissors and CUT the tights down the belly , letting it all hang out. Instant maternity tights!

MarlenaGru Mon 27-Jan-14 20:15:10

Yip DH rolled 2 day old DD out of the Moses basket and onto the floor. I nearly killed him!

MarlenaGru Mon 27-Jan-14 20:18:26

I fell asleep holding DD once and woke up not being able to find her. She was luckily right next to me asleep but it was one of the more terrifying moments and from then onwards I always put pillows around me so she wouldn't be able to slip out of my arms! (Propping my arms up)

sarah I have some stretchy dresses but otherwise have had maternity clothes or too big tights since twelve weeks. My bump is quite large already!

BEEwitched Mon 27-Jan-14 20:21:36

I need maternity jeans but I'm still ok with my regular skater dresses and jumpers. Just did a big shop at Old Navy for maternity stuff as it is very hard to find summery plus-size maternity clothes - plus size is niche, maternity is niche, and when the two meet, well.... Bon Prix is quite good but ALWAYS sold out of most things.

Just grumpy that their current money-off voucher doesn't work for international customers!

Bumblebeesmum Mon 27-Jan-14 20:57:13

Marlena that makes me feel so much better about chucking James on the floor!! He was in such a peculiar position to I was sure he was broken somewhere rushed him to A&E at 3am where the Doctor asked (of my 4 week old) "how many injuries has he had previously?" - I was convinced social services would be next in!!! smile

bellygazing Mon 27-Jan-14 20:58:46

I am mostly in maternity clothes apart from a few stretchy/ forgiving dresses and tops. Comfort all the way! I have my scan tomorrow -so excited. Not finding out the sex but can't wait to see this little wriggle again smile

AmelieRose Mon 27-Jan-14 21:22:25

I'm still able to wear some normal clothes depending on how baggy/stretchy they are, but in maternity jeans and trousers as my normal ones won't do up round the middle! A lot of my maternity stuff is still miles too big though... Need this bump to grow!

jaykay987 Mon 27-Jan-14 22:29:36

I've been in maternity trousers and jeans for since about 11weeka. They started off too big, but were just much more comfy than my old ones.

I wear a lot of stretchy dresses, so they are from my "normal" wardrobe. Ironically I can now wear a few that were too tight before my BFP. I've certainly not lost any weight, but my shape has changed, so a slight cling on the bump looks alright (whereas a pull on the bum or across the belly previously looked like jelly central!)

Good luck to any scans tomorrow!

Redcliff Mon 27-Jan-14 22:34:50

I remember falling asleep on the sofa BF a couple of times and waking up all freaked out. With a side cot or similar how am I going to stop my self drifting off during a feed and it just turning into co- sleeping?

Clothes wise I am mainly in maternity clothes with the odd non maternity stretchy jumper or dress still fitting. Oddly my jeans are ok - they were a little big pre baby days but not sure how much longer they will work . My birthday is at the end of March and I was going to ask for some over the bump ones but not sure if I can wait that long.

mylittlel Mon 27-Jan-14 22:51:29

re maternity clothes..i have tried bigger size clothes, which i didnt like and didnt feel comfy, so bought maternity jeans from New Look (nice and comfy) and wear maternity jumper but still no visible bump on 19 weeks

Bumblebeesmum Tue 28-Jan-14 07:55:28

Redcliff I've been wondering the same thing

Mylittle I buy larger clothes but from different brands that are different shape to what I'm used to. All shops aimed at older ladies are more generous around the middle like jaeger & I can't think what others called & then white company I could live in they have so much stuff that doesn't fit it hangs etc

Redcliff Tue 28-Jan-14 08:15:37

Little - I got a pair of trousers next size up and really didn't do the trick. Maternity clothes are much more comfy. Someone at work is due 4 weeks before me and has no bump - I guess some people wear it differently.

Vickyvix Tue 28-Jan-14 09:15:15

Welcome Gorran and MrGasMan smile

jay that's actually a very good point that I hadn't thought of! I had just kind of assumed that for walks etc I would need to have buggy in house. We don't have a side or back door as we are in a terrace but I park on street right outside the front door so actually that could work. The only real place we have for storing buggy is under the stairs but I could store the frame in the car boot and just carry in the bassinet or car seat - and leave (or put) the frame in the car. good thinking!!

sarah i like your tights story. I switched to just buying really big tights which are much more comfy. I'm still in normal clothes apart from maternity jeans, which I've been wearing for weeks. I have struggled so much to find decent maternity wear so have ended up getting a couple of 'normal' jersey dresses with empire line waist and going with those or normal tops/ cardigans. But I did a mammoth order of maternity wear from Old Navy yesterday though which I am waiting for delivery of. Their maternity stuff was sooooo much nicer than anything I have found in UK..... Can't wait for it to arrive smile my bump has definitely appeared now.

good luck today bellygazing

Stacks Tue 28-Jan-14 09:41:08

I don't hand any maternity clothes yet... I'm not due til end of June though, so a bit behind most of you. Also, I had a few generously cut jeans that I wore after having DS which still fit ok. My "normal" pre-DS trousers are all a bit too right to be comfy, also, my thighs get so much bigger when pg, so I can't wear any slightly tight jeans, even if they would fit on the waist!
Going to visit my sister in mid feb, she has all our maternity clothes, as she's due in march. So I'll get all the early pg maternity clothes off her then and start wearing them.

Mitchell2 Tue 28-Jan-14 09:49:51

I have some maternity jeans, and the rest of the maternity stuff I have is dresses for work from Seraphine which are stretchy and basically the same as the dresses I would normally wear. all my tops, jumpers etc still are fine at the moment (I like clothing with a bit of room anyway!).

Biffle Tue 28-Jan-14 10:14:06

I've been in maternity since about 8 weeks but this is baby #3 so no surprise. Can still fit in my pre pg jeans (if I stand up all day) but sitting in them for any length of time is really uncomfortable. Have really struggled finding jeans / trousers with a short enough legs. I have a 'short' leg pair of jeans from Mothercare and they are still about 4 inches too long!!!

mylittlel Tue 28-Jan-14 11:22:48

morning ladies, my silly husband forgot yesterday that im pregnant and scared me in the dark) thank god i had a quick reaction and just spitted at him))) now he will know not to do this again)

Gorran Tue 28-Jan-14 11:25:27

I'm still in my normal clothes but I'm living in dresses and tights - nice and forgiving as I favour skater style dresses or tunics. I AM getting a bit bored now though so will invest in some maternity jeans this week as wearing my normal jeans is getting interesting! I have a fairly obvious bump so when I wear them I'm wearing my jeans completely undone (except for a hairband/button closure I've concocted!) with a long vest then a top. Constantly worried about exposing an expanse of white blobby tummy!

Lmf679 Tue 28-Jan-14 12:45:10

I'm wearing some ASOS maternity jeans today and they are falling down, I got some Topshop ones last week and they fit nicely, my usual size 10 skinny jeans have been relegated to the back of the wardrobe for some time now as I was really sick and bloated in the beginning. Some dresses still fit but they are getting shorter as the bump is making them ride up a bit, I'm still getting into normal tops and some stretchier skirts. It's an odd in between stage at the moment.

Expectingtwins1975 Tue 28-Jan-14 13:55:46

I'm at an odd inbetween stage clothes wise - normal clothes haven't fitted for quite a few weeks (even though I'm only 18weeks) apart from cardis. But maternity clothes not a good fit - mat jeans always falling down. Havent found any maternity work trousers that have fitted properly. Have opted for regular stretchy skirts/trousers for work and bought some regular tops just in a bigger size. Only a matter of time before these are too small too - got a feeling going to spend majority of pregnancy shopping for larger and larger clothes!
Ps maternity tights are a total lifesaver!

wispaxmas Tue 28-Jan-14 15:18:18

Re maternity clothing, I bought a pair of jeans from the gap at about 12 weeks, but my normal jeans still fit until about 18-19 weeks. They would still be fine with a belly band now at 21+6, but I'm finding the mat jeans so much comfier. I got a bunch of stuff from my sister in law at Christmas, luckily. I bought a pair of over-bump leggings when I was home for Christmas, and they are properly the comfiest thing I've ever worn.

Liquidambar Tue 28-Jan-14 15:37:15

I seem to have poped over the last couple of days. I was still on my normal clothes but today I'm wearing a maternity top for the first time and I had to put an elastic on my trousers button to get an extra cm. I think I'll need to go shopping tomorrow to get a decent pair of maternity trousers.

CleverOl10 Tue 28-Jan-14 18:03:13

Just ordered some more maternity tights. They are amazing - they currently come up over my bra and keep my boobs warm! wink

Stacks Tue 28-Jan-14 18:35:44

There's a good deal this week on eBay for the Mamas and Papas Mylo pram/pushchair 50% off -

bit.ly/1aP83Tq

bellygazing Tue 28-Jan-14 19:29:05

Hi ladies, scan went well. Held my guns and didn't find out the sex, almost thought I would cave at one point. Like some other of you, she couldn't get a good view on the heart initially so I had to get up and go to the loo, then come back and it was fine. Baby was tucked up with back against womb so couldn't properly examine spine, so will need to go back. Oddly this doesn't worry me. At the beginning I was convinced something would go wrong but I've felt so much movement I feel pretty good now.

However, I did get a bit of a knock to my confidence. The sonographer was lovely, but reading my notes at the end, I saw she wrote ' restricted view due to increased BMI'. Which made me feel quite shit sad

MarlenaGru Tue 28-Jan-14 19:32:36

I am trying to decide whether it is acceptable to wear leggings rather than tights with a couple of my dresses to save the few pairs of tights I have?

Redcliff Tue 28-Jan-14 19:42:26

Where have people got their over the bump jeans from - the only ones I have seen that I liked were about 55 quid and not sure if I can justify that.

Redcliff Tue 28-Jan-14 19:44:23

Marlena - was also thinking about leggings as I have some from last time around but not sure about having a gap above my shoes iyswim

Expectingtwins1975 Tue 28-Jan-14 19:53:55

I bought some from next - weren't that expensive (although always falling down but that could just be my weird shape)

MrsBon Tue 28-Jan-14 20:09:54

Redcliff: I got an over the bump maternity jeans from
Next which is pretty comfortable and doesn't ride up too.. Cost me about 28 pounds but they do maternity clothes only online or something..

CleverOl10 Tue 28-Jan-14 20:29:42

I'd be unhappy with that comment too Belly. A bit mean really. Just putting restricted view, need to rescan is enough.

MarlenaGru Tue 28-Jan-14 20:36:21

I have long boots so no problem with gap... Might try on Friday!

mylittlel Tue 28-Jan-14 20:47:48

bellyhazing my sonographer was the same, on a dating scan she told us that baby is too small to take measurements, and later on i saw in my pregnancy notes she wrote-due to above average bmi could take measurements..i thought its offensive not to say this in my face but write it on a paper

jaykay987 Wed 29-Jan-14 05:09:25

red Marlena I haven't got any tights yet, so am living in leggings and boots in my dresses. (I would have to move to tights if I didn't have boots).

It's really comfy and warm. I'm just worried how this will work as I get bigger and hotter! I can't get my legs out for work - so when I can't wear maxi dresses I think I'll have to stick to tights which I am not looking forward to! Anyway....given it'll get colder before it gets hotter I'll not worry for now!

CleverOl10 Wed 29-Jan-14 10:46:59

After seeing a message on here last night, I had a look at Next online. Decided to order a pair of over the bump jeans for £28. This was about 9pm. I'm now sat wearing them! Super fast delivery and really comfy jeans! Win!

Redcliff Wed 29-Jan-14 11:12:10

Will check out the next ones - thanks for the tip. I got my work trousers from there and they are very comfy. I never think of getting non work clothes from there - no idea why.

Biffle Wed 29-Jan-14 12:20:31

New Look have quite a nice selection of reasonably priced maternity jeans too and mothercare do some for around £35. On my 12 weeks scan the sonographer wrote resticted view due to increased BMI so I have no doubt my 20 week one next week will say the same. Stupid thing is that technology has advanced so much since my scans with the girls in 2003 / 2005 that even these 'restricted views' are x50 clearer than the ones I had with them when I was slimmer!!

I have a BMI of just over 38 but seen as most of this excess fat is on my bum and thighs it really shouldn't make any difference to scan visibility. Midwife was pleasantly suprised when she felt my bump last week and found the top of my uterus and hertbeat first time as she expected it to be near impossible due to my 'cuddliness' but she was lovely about it!!

Mitchell2 Wed 29-Jan-14 13:12:53

I have brought some jeans from GAP and ones from topshop. I hate the ones from TS - they have stretched and now fall down. The GAP ones are nice, but I ususally wear their jeans in the first place so the same.

i have not got any maternity tights - still in my control top normal ones (not sure what that says about me and how big I was in the first place!)

carrie105 Wed 29-Jan-14 15:15:13

My maternity jeans are from Red Herring at Debenhams (£30ish I think).. so far so good. Had them about a fortnight. I did have to go down a size to get them to fit around the thighs as my usual size was coming up quite baggy in that area, so hopefully I wont put a load of weight on my thighs now!

Redcliff Wed 29-Jan-14 17:17:36

Mitchell2 - don't the control top ones press your tummy down or are they fitting under your bump?

Had my 20 weeks scan today - felt really worried (was saying to DP last night "lets not go - we can just go to the cinema or something" which he very gently said was not going to happen) but all was fine - had to pay a fiver for the pictures but well worth it. As we thought it’s another boy - DS is very happy.

MarlenaGru Wed 29-Jan-14 17:31:56

Congratulations redcliff
I can't wear normal tights as they have made me feel ill as anything touching my belly does. Annoyingly I have 5 pairs of maternity tights but with two other women wearing tights in the house someone seems to have at least 3 of my pairs! I have got a pile from my mum to check later...

Mitchell2 Wed 29-Jan-14 18:52:52

Redcliff - they go over my bump and are almost like wearing a supportive band - they are not super super control ones - I think medium from M&S. Very comfortable actually. Congrats on the scan smile

MrsBon Wed 29-Jan-14 21:45:45

Anyone had a private scan and know how much it costs? Just wondering since NHS doesn't do any scans after 20 weeks...

jaykay987 Wed 29-Jan-14 21:58:52

It varies gelt depending where you are in the country. Have a quick google......you'll easily find loads of options.

jaykay987 Wed 29-Jan-14 21:59:14

Gelt= hugely!!

summerbaby2014 Wed 29-Jan-14 22:58:52

Mrsbon- it's around £100 depending on what you have

Redcliff Thu 30-Jan-14 08:43:14

Thanks for the congrats and Mitchell - that makes compleat sense about the tights. I used to sell tights for a living and would often get newly pregnant women wanting tight control tights so people wouldn't think they were fat.

Sussex31 Thu 30-Jan-14 13:31:56

Bah, can't believe I have come down with yet another cold. I am wrapped up in 2 blankets in front of an open fire yet I am still shivering.

On the upside I think I felt kicks for the first time yesterday (anterior placenta so a bit behind some of you) and I have the 20 week scan tomorrow.

On the topic of maternity wear, I have only bought 1 item so far, these jeans from Jojo Maman Bebe:

www.jojomamanbebe.co.uk/sp+classic-wash-bootleg-maternity-jeans-in-maternity-jeans+a9900

They are superb! Really soft and comfy.

Junebabyjoy Thu 30-Jan-14 16:03:28

Hi ladies, haven't posted on here in ages but though i'd share my amazing find with you all as I could now not live without! River Island leggings are the most maternity appropriate item of clothing ever, without even being actual maternity! I think they are supposed to be folded over at the top, but instead if you pull them right up they fit beautifully over bump, really comfy and supportive, I wear mine daily! My bump is huge for 22 weeks and I find a size 12 fits beautifully and at a tenner a pair you can't go wrong ;) so,so,so excited to meet my baby boy...yesterday's scan made me melt. Why does due date seem forever away!

SarahAnderson Thu 30-Jan-14 17:43:24

Just had the scan. The sonographer was REALLY grumpy and when we asked about gender, she said the baby was '90% likely to be a girl, but we don't give guarantees'. When we queried what she meant, she just kept repeating the same thing. Anyone else had this sort of probability answer? We are confused now... Obviously we weren't after a guarantee but we can't tell whether she meant, "Basically, it's a girl, but as a general policy I never like to say it for sure" or "I couldn't really see properly, so this is a bit of a guess."

Feeling a bit flat about it if I'm honest!

Mummymidwife87 Thu 30-Jan-14 19:10:07

I've just joined MN and have a baby on the way in June!

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Sussex31 Thu 30-Jan-14 20:45:37

Sorry to hear about your experience Sarah. I'd recommend going for a private gender scan. It is nice to have those precious extra minutes looking at your baby, as well as getting a proper answer on the gender.

Sussex31 Thu 30-Jan-14 20:46:00

And welcome mummymidwife

MrsBon Thu 30-Jan-14 20:50:06

Thanks jaykay and summerbaby smile

MrsBon Thu 30-Jan-14 20:56:26

Sarah: Yesterday was my scan too.. The sonographer was quite nice n patient and took good time explaining the scan to us.. But when it came to revealing the gender she insisted that it was an 80% chance it's a boy.. She was very insistent its an 80% chance and not to paint the nursery blue. I think they say it this way so as to not be held responsible incase the baby turns out to be the other gender. Apparently that can happens sometimes..

Redcliff Thu 30-Jan-14 22:05:24

Sarah - my scan was yesterday and we had a really disinterested sonographer although she did say we were having a boy. Do they not realise what an amazing thing this appointment is and that a bit of bedside manner goes a long way.

Redcliff Thu 30-Jan-14 22:08:15

June and Sussex - thanks for the maternity wear tips - the jeans look amazing and some leggings for a tenner that are comfy - cant say fairer than that.

Welcome and congrats to you baby midwife

BaldHedgehog Thu 30-Jan-14 22:09:06

Hello you chatty lot!Sadly I've got not enough time to keep up with you,a very active toddler takes most of my time.

Hope everybody's doing fine and getting good news at their scans.
Had mine today,everything's fine here so absolutely delighted.DH opted for not finding out the gender so we're getting a surprise again.EDD 24th of June but if it's the same late as DS I might end up with July baby.

Take care ladies smile

Redcliff Thu 30-Jan-14 22:09:12

Should have read mummy midwife - sorry!

chestnutmare Thu 30-Jan-14 22:23:18

Hi everyone! Had a babybond gender scan this evening, we're having a girl! And we get to go back for a free scan next week as the baby wasn't in a good position for photos, so looking forward to that!

It's my NHS 20 week scan tomorrow, hopefully everything will look ok there, feeling a bit less anxious about it now though smile

Redcliff Thu 30-Jan-14 23:28:28

Congrats Chestnut - that's wonderful news and lucky you getting another on for free.

SarahSPT Fri 31-Jan-14 06:27:59

Hi everyone. Lovely reading all the progress stories and having gender scans. Our sonographer was very friendly but the midwives I've met so far haven't particularly - very much felt like I was just another number. Moving to north London in a few weeks though so looking forward to having a new team.

I'm 22 weeks today but I haven't felt any flutters for ages - anyone else? Bambino was going at it like mad for a while around 17/18 weeks but not much since. Had a scan at just over 19 weeks and all was fine (another booked in at 24 weeks) so I'm not particularly worried, but just wondered if that's normal?

chestnutmare Fri 31-Jan-14 09:53:20

I think it's normal SarahSPT. I felt some movement at about 16 weeks then nothing for a while, although the past few days she's been going at it again! At my scan last night I was told my placenta was sitting at the front so I'd probably not feel as many movements until the baby gets a bit bigger, so maybe you're the same?

SarahSPT Fri 31-Jan-14 10:13:33

Ah, maybe that's it then, thanks. I'm abroad at the moment and don't have a midwife to ask so am a bit clueless about these things!

noseymcposey Fri 31-Jan-14 13:10:30

Do you know if you have an anterior placenta SarahSPT? I had that first time round and feeling movements was very sporadic throughout pregnancy.

SarahSPT Fri 31-Jan-14 13:46:29

Absolutely no idea! I've been travelling since 13 weeks, had a scan before I left where they didn't mention anything, although I'll go and have a look at my maternity notes in case they've put it in there. I had a scan at 19 weeks in Laos just to check everything was fine and see the babba moving. I'm back in a couple of weeks and then a scan & midwife appt on 17th Feb so presume they'll have a poke around then. Am a bit more reassured though now thanks that that's what it could be. I'm feeling fine and normal too but if anything weird happens I can pootle down to the local hospital if needed.

mylittlel Fri 31-Jan-14 15:31:33

ladies who under consultant led care can you please advise what to expect from the first appt? Thanks

Vickyvix Fri 31-Jan-14 16:35:08

Thanks for the advice re leggings junebaby and congrats on your scan smile

redcliff sarah* and mrsbon congrats on your scans, glad all went well.

sarah 90% is pretty good isn't it? Maybe they were just covering themselves as others have said. Agree private gender scan might be worth it - they will purely focus on what you want to know.

Hi mummymidwife welcome to the thread smile

sussex sorry to hear you're feeling rough, hope you feel better soon

Yey, congrats on your little girl chestnut

I have to wait until Monday for scan - time is going so slow.....

Redcliff Fri 31-Jan-14 18:21:20

I saw a consultant a few weeks ago and they just prodded my tummy, did a quick scan and asked me how I was feeling. Was there for about 5 minutes. It might depend why your seeing a consultant though - I am having shared care (midwife and consultant) so not sure if that makes a difference . Hope it all goes well.

BEEwitched Fri 31-Jan-14 18:39:32

I think 90% is the standard number they like to quote when it comes to accuracy - what you think is a girl could have their little genitals tucked firmly out of sight, what you think is a boy could be a girl with the umbilical cord in an awkward position.

I don't think it happens this often these days, scans have become quite accurate, but there's still ass covering going on just in case!

cjbk1 Fri 31-Jan-14 19:24:35

Now I remember what I was going to say;
Yes bits could be cord
Yes to anterior placenta no to difference
also wanted to say; seem to be feeling hard bits of baby when it's surely too early for that or is that the placenta? blush

Bumblebeesmum Fri 31-Jan-14 20:08:34

MrsBon my scan was £39 it depends if you want 3D or 4D how long for what for whether you want to come out with videos & teddies that play your babies heart beat etc etc etc

Also groupon often do deals on private scans

spud28 Sat 01-Feb-14 07:20:51

Hi everyone. I have been lurking for a while but never got round to posting. I'm due 26th June with number 2. I'm feeling really sorry for myself I have some knod of virus, sore throat aches, head ache and generally feeling rubbish. Unfortunately hubby is working today so I have a demanding 2.5 year old to entertain sad oh and a horse and 2 dogs !
I still haven't told work or to many people yet. Was planning on telling work next week. Both times i really don't feel pregnant till the 20wk scan. I ban everyone from buying anything till after 20 weeks !! I'm sure they think I'm crazy !

GillyBillyWilly Sat 01-Feb-14 08:08:41

Welcome new ladies!
It's February already!!!!!!!!! My due date is 4 months tomorrow! smile

If you haven't already joined our totally private and secret facebook group and you want to, please message me with your email address and I'll send you an invite!

I'm off this weekend and my husband is working. Gonna just chill for the whole weekend.... LOVELY! smile

panicmechanic Sat 01-Feb-14 10:11:34

Hello ladies so lovely to read all of the progress stories. Thought I would give you the heads up in my
news as i have been reading and not posting. i went for a private scan a fmc on thursday and the baby is fine very wriggly and naughty for the scan but my problem with my placenta unfortunately doesn't seem to have gone away. Fmc think I have something called Vasa Previa. Basically
the cord is outside of the membrane so is at high risk to rupture as it is very close to the cervix. If it doesn't rupture. I will be given a Caesarian as early as 34 weeks and potentially hospitalised from 32weeks. When known about the chances of the baby surviving are good so
I am relieved we are informed but obviously if the rupture happens early there are risks that I don't even want to think about. I had my 20 week scan at the nhs on friday and they confirmed the same although i had to push them to check as they wouldnt normally check for this at this stage. There is a small chance that the umbilical cord was 'looped' and tricking us but if I am honest fmc are so professional I think their diagnosis is accurate as the vord position has been mentioned before.I have also been referred to a specialist as in their words I need to be 'managed'.

Anyway I am positive about it all and will just have to be super careful while the baby cooks some more.

Not sure who asked about consultant led but I am. They start with routine urine, BP and have a feel around. They ask about how you feel, sometimes get a portable scanning unit in, they get the Doppler and then organise with you the next session/scan. You tend to get more scans etc

Angelina77 Sat 01-Feb-14 10:18:44

Hi all, just checking in (EDD 22nd June, 20wk scan next Wednesday).

Recovering from a vomiting bug today, hope it hasn't affected the baby. He's probably enjoyed all the extra bubbling and gurgling going on down there, God knows what it must sound like from inside.

BEEwitched Sat 01-Feb-14 12:28:02

panic I'm glad to hear the FMC is being good about monitoring you - have to say, you have to wonder; if you don't get a scan on the NHS after 20 weeks and they don't check for something like this, how are you supposed to find out?

I know you sadly have pervious history, but for a first-timer that just seems a bit worrying...

panicmechanic Sat 01-Feb-14 14:03:33

Hi Beewitched, sorry I don't mean to worry anyone that is why I haven't posted until I got the results. I really wouldn't have known about this condition had the sonographer not picked it up at 10 weeks and then the next symptom is a bleed which I had a 18 weeks. I guess if you bleed at all it is best to go to the hospital. I have to say FMC have been very good but so has my NHS hospital in the past. If you are concerned about anything ask for a consultant appt and request a scan at 28 weeks. Try not to worry.

Jessiebaba Sat 01-Feb-14 16:10:46

Had our gender scan this morning and we're having a girl!! So excited and delighted! grin

I finally feel like I can relax a bit and start to buy things...bought a couple of wee outfits on the way home from the scan! blush

Now DP and I just need to start really thinking about girls names. At the moment we can't agree on any!!

panic that all sounds quite scary but glad you're getting the care you need thanks

BEEwitched Sat 01-Feb-14 17:46:58

Nah, I'm fine, just glad you're getting the care you need and a bit perplexed that things weren't checked properly - but that's why I've booked another private scan for 28 wks, as that's when you'd get another check up back home. It just feels safer!

Mitchell2 Sat 01-Feb-14 19:45:42

Panic - sorry to hear the news, but good that the FMC is on the ball. Hope it all progresses well from now on.

Welcome all the newbies and those who are popping in for an update. Am still waiting for the bump to not look like fat and for movements to be a bit more definite - 21 weeks Monday and have my 20 week scan and really really scared. And even more so after I heard that a friend back home had her 20 week scan last week and she had lost the baby sad Have no idea why, it was her third, so I can just assume it's one of those things but given my lack of regular and definite movements am worried.

Stacks Sun 02-Feb-14 07:40:22

I bought a pram yesterday! With DS I didn't buy anything till about 30 weeks, so this is a very big and early purchase for me. Got a good deal on eBay for a second hand Baby Jogger Citi Select, it's a single pram that transforms to a double, so I'll be using it for DS till the baby comes smile

Our scan isn't till Friday, looking forward to seeing LO again and hopefully finding out gender. Hoping we'll be in the girl gang, but shall just have to wait and see.

Mitchell try not to worry about your scan, in all likelihood everything will be fine. Really sorry to hear about your friend losing the baby sad

Panic I hope you continue to get good care. It must be scary for you, but good to know you're in good hands.

chestnutmare Sun 02-Feb-14 09:55:13

Congratulations on your wee girl Jessiebaba! smile

Redcliff Sun 02-Feb-14 17:36:46

Hi newbies and great to hear about positive scans. Panic - very impressed about how calm your being and glad your being well looked after.

Had a good trip out with DP and DS but feeling a bit done in after climbing the monument (311 steps - DS is doing the great fire of London) after a couple of rubbish days. Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

panicmechanic Sun 02-Feb-14 20:43:54

Thanks ladies for all of your support. Have a great week ahead.

Vickyvix Sun 02-Feb-14 23:55:44

panic sorry to hear your news but really glad to hear all is going ok for you so far, it must be very worrying but it sounds like you are getting good care from your consultant etc. I will keep everything crossed for you that things progress well and that baby is allowed to cook for long enough. Take it easy and take good care of yourself (which I have no doubt you are already doing)

jessie congratulations on your little girl!! So exciting smile

Welcome spud

mitchell very best of luck for tomorrow. We have our scan tomorrow too and I'm a bag of nerves, so scared that there could be bad news and struggling to think of anything else. Sorry to hear about your friends sad news.

Mitchell2 Mon 03-Feb-14 10:28:31

Scan went well. Baby very well behaved, but still all feels a bit surreal! I guess ones she is kicking me in the bladder almost constantly I will then believe there is actually something in there smile

Vickyvix Mon 03-Feb-14 10:35:21

Great news Mitchell smile

mylittlel Mon 03-Feb-14 13:01:26

hi ladies, have my scan in hour and a half and i can relate with Vicky as im a bag of nerves at the moment, hope everything will be fine with our babies)

SarahAnderson Mon 03-Feb-14 13:14:40

I was more nervous before my scan than I have been for anything in years! Best of luck. x

Vickyvix Mon 03-Feb-14 14:29:09

Good luck mylittlel fingers all goes well for you

HannahC1989 Mon 03-Feb-14 16:33:00

Good luck for scans today n this week etc ladies!
Do we have an official count of how many boys and girls and surprises?
Xxxxxx

KR33 Mon 03-Feb-14 16:53:23

Hi everyone!

Another late joiner here, but due 20-06-14 with dc1. We just had our 20wk scan today and found out we are having a little girl! I was convinced I was having a boy but would've been very happy either way. Just pleased baby is healthy :-)
I was terrified going in (as I was at the 12wk scan) after a mmc last year, and it wasn't helped by the sonographer going completely silent for 5 mins at the start while i couldn't see the screen - the longest 5 mins of my life! But it turns out she was just concentrating deeply on checking all the organs etc.
So far I have only felt fluttering and twitches but baby was wriggling and kicking lots during the scan so I am looking forward to feeling more relaxed as I start to feel more of baby moving about :-)

Good luck to everyone with scans coming up!

MarlenaGru Mon 03-Feb-14 17:39:43

Welcome KR33
I had my scan today too and very relieved all is well and we managed to stay in the surprise group! Was very worried DH would peek when she told us to look away!

Vickyvix Mon 03-Feb-14 17:52:10

Welcome KR33 congrats on your scan.

Congrats to you too marlena

Have just got home from our scan. All was well, one very very wriggly baby, and over the moon to report that it is a girl!! grin

Redcliff Mon 03-Feb-14 18:23:05

What great news - so glad all the scans are going so well. Is anyone else having ligament pain - I was in such pain this morning!

MrsBon Mon 03-Feb-14 18:42:07

Congratulations to all who have had their scans! smile
Redcliff I have the ligament pain.. It can be very difficult specially when lying down in certain positions and getting up..

So how many of us can feel baby movement? Very often/ sometimes? Would just like to know if everyone has a similar experience on that front or it varies..

CleverOl10 Mon 03-Feb-14 19:45:48

I also get ligament pain, usually after a full day on my feet at work. I develop a preggo lady waddle by about 3pm!

panicmechanic Mon 03-Feb-14 20:48:37

Congratulations on all the scans - very exciting

Redcliff Mon 03-Feb-14 20:57:00

It's horrible isn't it - wish it would go away but I guess my body needs to stretch . I have been feeling some movement but not loads - it's more like he's swimming although got a couple of thumps/kicks on Friday.

Bezzabelle Mon 03-Feb-14 21:30:03

Hi all,
Congrats on good scans.
Movements wise, it has really ramped up in the last week- feeling lots now throughout day and sometimes in night if I turn over, he seems to protest and moves loads. Am 23+ 2 today. One of my Nct friends from first time round had her 2nd baby at 24 weeks two weeks ago and that is a very scary thought that I'm only days away from her. Her little one was 1lb 6 and is fighting away. Very tough.

hackneybird Mon 03-Feb-14 21:50:48

Bloody hell bezza - 24 weeks! My heart goes out to your friend. I know a couple of people who had preemies at 30 weeks, but 24, wow. I really hope they are all ok.

Good news on all the positive scans, and also that we are getting some girls in the group! Welcome kr33.

panic glad you've been in touch as I was just thinking of you the other day, wondering how you were. Pleased you're getting good care and all is well, long may it continue.

Redcliff Mon 03-Feb-14 23:19:23

24 weeks! That is scary - I hope they are doing as well as can be expected.

Bezzabelle Tue 04-Feb-14 06:26:07

Early days at the moment but doing ok.

Can I ask- is everyone planning on having the whooping cough jab at 28 weeks? Wasn't around when I had ds and was just going to go along and have it as I was told but then a colleague made a comment yesterday saying she would never have it so that's made me think!!

GillyBillyWilly Tue 04-Feb-14 07:17:54

I'm 23+1 today. The thought of having the baby as early as 24 weeks is so scary for so many reasons.
Hope your friends little one makes it smile

Re movements, im feeling the baby every day now. Particularly in the evening when I settle down for bed but also mid afternoon and sometimes in the morning! grin
But mostly evening. My husband has felt it move once but normally when he puts his hand on my tummy it stops! Plus DH isn't very patient and can't just sit still and be quiet and wait!
However DH has SEEN it move lots of times! smile

BEEwitched Tue 04-Feb-14 07:35:56

bezza I hope your friend's baby will be alright, there's a lot they can do nowadays - I will be 24 weeks on Friday and I'll breathe a sigh of relief because if the worst happens there's a good chance of survival.

Yesterday I convinced DH to stay home with me - he had the sniffles and a headache and was going to drag himself to the office but I offered a lazy cuddle day so he stayed home sick. Today he woke up with a raging flu and is vomming away, so whatever it is has gotten a lot worse. Poor man... (and there's a little part thinking 'at least it's not me'...)

GillyBillyWilly Tue 04-Feb-14 07:36:33

Ohhhh and yes im planning on having whooping cough injection. My next midwife appointment is on 19th feb so I'm assuming it will come up in conversation then.
Also got my anti D injection the week after that!

Redcliff Tue 04-Feb-14 08:04:45

Does having the whooping cough injection immunise the baby? If so I will have it done I guess. My DP feels that immunisation is "a miracle of the modern age" or something like that and my dad was really sick when he was younger with TB so I tend to take anything that's offered.

My movements tend to stop once DP puts his hand on as well - why is that?

BEEwitched Tue 04-Feb-14 08:17:22

No jabs of any kind for me, no.

chestnutmare Tue 04-Feb-14 08:26:32

I'm feeling the baby a lot more too now Gilly, despite my anterior placenta! smile And DH felt it for the first time last night which was lovely.

We have our babybond rescan after work today so hopefully we'll get some better pictures, since she was way too wriggly at both the first babybond and the 20 week anomaly scan! Every time the sonographer tried to get a photo she'd move so much the image went blurry! Or she'd move into a position that was not photo friendly. It's hard to believe they move around quite so much in there!

Riblet Tue 04-Feb-14 08:50:39

Hello all,

Not been on much as was off sick last week and I usually come on here during work time wink

That does sound scary Panic but as others say, you're in the best place to get the care you need - good luck and look after yourself.

God Bezza, 24 weeks! Fingers crossed for your friend and her little one. I am planning to have the whooping cough vaccination and pretty much any other immunisation going. I know there are a lot of scare stories but being a biologist I generally tend to be all for vaccines and try and read the research papers behind stuff if there's any doubt (plus DH is a biologist too and thinks science is the answer to everything - I'd have to have a damn good argument to convince him that vaccination isn't the best thing since sliced bread!)

Re. ligament pain - did have a fair bit from around 14-20 weeks but seems to have eased off a bit now. Was mainly on one side when turning over in bed and sitting up, plus a stitch-like pain when walking for more than about 5 mins. I thought it'd gone off as things had stretched enough for now but saying that I haven't walked much for a couple of weeks so could well be why it's been better.

I haven't felt much movement and nothing I'd really define as kicks- more flutters and twitches. Felt first proper twitch on Saturday and DH managed to feel it too, but just flutters since. One of the placentas is anterior though so they said I probably wouldn't feel much until later. Just as well as I'd probably worry since everyone else seems to be feeling loads! (I'm 21+6)

Stacks Tue 04-Feb-14 09:53:14

My scan isn't till Friday, getting a little impatient about it. Also quite nervous, but not sure if it's more for the scan, or leaving DS with MIL while we go have it. I've never really left him with anyone, and the scan time is right when he'd normally have his morning nap, so he's going to be tired and grumpy. The scan for some reason is also right in the city center, instead of at the hospital 5 minutes away where all my other scans have been. So we'll be a good 40 minutes from home if anything goes wrong.

Really hope the 24w baby gets on ok, my brother was born extremely premature back in the 80's, he spent a long time in hospital, and was in and out lots through his childhood. He's now got two kids of his own though, so miracles and accidental pregnancies do happen!

mylittlel Tue 04-Feb-14 13:04:23

Hi ladies, we were in a bit of a shock yesterday, baby is fine, all is well but instead of a very much wanted boy we are having a girl, so we are team pink, need time to get used to it though...any tips on what to do with girls?)

Vickyvix Tue 04-Feb-14 14:28:42

Glad your scan went well mylittlel

mitchell very best wishes to your friend and her baby born at 24 weeks, I really hope they are doing ok. It is a scary thought to think that baby could arrive so soon.

My husband was very premature way back in the late 70's I'm not sure exactly how many weeks but he was due in August and was born in mid-May. He is now a healthy 6ft 1 man......and that was so long ago that medicine has moved on heaps.

Good luck with your scan stacks

Re movements, I've only felt definite jabs and kicks for a couple of days, just flutters before that but yesterday before our scan she was having a disco party in there smile

Just in waiting room for private growth scan to see if I can solve the conundrum re due dates. NHs scan suggested she was small but nothing to worry about but there's been a question over due date all the way through so I want to get it sorted (and get confirmation that she is definitely a she!)

Vickyvix Tue 04-Feb-14 15:40:29

Well baby is measuring dot on average for the private consultant due dates, which suggests they are probably right. Unsurprisingly measuring very small for NHS dates which are a week earlier. Panic over re extremely small baby. They confirmed she is indeed she and so I am working to due date of between 20th and 27th June (but more likely the latter).

Mitchell2 Tue 04-Feb-14 15:46:06

That's great news Vix

SicknSpan Tue 04-Feb-14 16:14:25

Hi all. Nice to hear all your scans have been good news and feeling the love from your general all round positivity. This is a lovely thread!

I'll be having the whopping cough jab, even though I've had it myself (was 9 at the time, horrible horrible 3 months of coughing until I was sick over and over again, and losing 1/3 of my body weight- maybe I was destined to get hyperemesis all along!)

Have a big old bump now at 23+4, getting loads of Braxton hicks mainly towards the end of the day when I'm tired. Lots earlier this time round but guess that as it's baby no 3 my body is just going "whatever. I know what I'm doing. Let me get on with it." Much respect to ladies on 4 5 or 6!

CleverOl10 Tue 04-Feb-14 18:31:21

Am also planning on having whooping cough jab as I hear it is to immunise the baby for when they are first born and too young to be jabbed themselves. Sounds sensible to me. Wasn't offered last time.

Stacks Tue 04-Feb-14 19:12:52

I'll be getting the whooping cough jab again. I had it with DS, it's quick and painless. He was due when the last epidemic was happening, so there was no question for me having it really. That said, for those who're not sure, the main risk to baby is from older siblings or people who are often out and about. If you think it's unlikely anyone will be bringing whooping cough into your house, then the risk of baby catching it is much less.

Mylittle when I was pg with DS I was really scared at the thought of having a girl. I have 4 little brothers and 2 nephews, but have spent very little time around girls. Even as an adult all my friends are boys. That said though, DH admitted before our 20w scan that he wanted a girl, and it got me thinking... When we actually had the scan I was disappointed it was a boy! Take some time, think about your baby as a real little girl, start looking at girl clothes and notice the little girls you see in the street or on the bus. You'll see they're just as cute as boys smile I'm not sure if you're like me, but I found it hard to think of girls as children/babies - I just imagined teenage girls (who I'm secretly terrified of, being an unpopular outcast in an all girls school growing up).

I'm waffling, but my point is, take some time. I'm sure you'll find you like the idea soon smile

Redcliff Tue 04-Feb-14 19:32:07

I have been feeling some stronger movements today - work has been crazy and I get so focused sometimes that its almost like "what is that - oh yes I have a baby in there . What do brackton hicks feel like -6 don't think I had them lady time round.

After lots of comments about how big my bump us from my manager who joyfully recounted that the head of our department said "is redcliffe sure she's due in June and not earlier " a lovely girl in another department asked me if I had lost weight !

mylittlel Tue 04-Feb-14 19:32:17

Stacks i had a little cry yesterday, but today i thought that i love this baby regardless and we just have to accept it, and like you said look at girly stuff i think that will put us in a right mood) re teenagers my hubby is scared of girl being teenager but i try to tell him that we need to think few months ahead first) thanks for support)

bellygazing Tue 04-Feb-14 19:50:18

Hi all, welcome to the new faces and congratulations on lovely scans. I've got my rescan tomorrow as sonographer couldn't check the spine last week, looking forward to seeing bump again. Have been uber tired this week and twice my boss has said 'you look exhausted' - just what you want to hear! Saw my GP today who has been keeping an eye on me due to mmc and depression last year and it turns out she's pregnant! Finishing work in 4 weeks so a little embarrassed I didn't notice. She's lovely though.

panicmechanic Tue 04-Feb-14 22:00:16

MylittleI, girls are lovely. My little dd is such great company and loving. She loves a bit of rough and tumble aswell as the Girly stuff. Congratulations!

I saw a consultant today who basically said let's concentrate on getting to 28 weeks and then we will make a birth plan. She confirmed it would be around 35 weeks but will be hospitalised before to ensure we are in a good space. She stressed that there is no reason I can't get to 35 weeks. Luckily there is a specialist in my hospital so I am really fortunate. Thank you all for your kind words.

Does anyone suspect that they are getting stretch marks? I am normally a size ten and have a very very visible bump now. I didn't get any stretch marks in previous pregnancies but think the itchness is a sign! I am using bio oil but does anyone have any tips?

Redcliff Tue 04-Feb-14 23:56:26

Little - I so know what you mean . We were hoping for a girl and have another boy on the way. Talked to DP about it and am feeling a bit better now. I would rather get used to the idea now and then be fine when DS2 gets here which us why I choose to find out this time.

MinaLeeds Wed 05-Feb-14 11:15:05

Hello! Been away for quite a while so had to catch up so much! Didn't quite manage it all. You ladies are a talkative lot. smile

Panic I'm really glad that the outlook looks good for you and baby and that you know exactly what's going now. I'll be sending you good thought vibes! smile

I had my 20 week scan at 21 weeks last week. Baby is doing well and was very active during the scan. She is a she and was busy chasing her feet through the scan. She has also been very active for about 3 weeks now and it feels like she's kicking harder every day. Dh has even got to feel it a number of times. Her heart beat is strong enough that it's just about possible for DH to hear it through my tum if we're really quiet and she's in the right place. Which was pretty cool.

PG hormones have gone a bit crazy. Had a complete meltdown and was crying uncontrollably for nearly an hour when DH got home from work. Poor man. All my mummy to be terrors came out to play at once. The whole motherhood thing scares me shitless tbh. Totally don't feel like I'm ready. sad The uncertainty of work in academia, the fact that I'll be jobless by the time baby comes, the fact that for the first time ever I will be totally unable of controlling my life as everything will depend on the little one. It makes me feel like I'm being such a bad mum for feeling resentful that everything is going to change when I just want it to stay how it is. Sigh.

Jessiebaba Wed 05-Feb-14 12:43:14

Mina I totally understand how you feel. This baby wasn't planned - basically because I didn't feel ready and wanted to wait a few more years. But fate intervened and I am over-joyed that it did...but at the same time, I'm terrified.

I don't think we're alone though - I'm pretty sure every mum-to-be feels overwhelmed and out of their depth at times (even if they don't show it) & it definitely doesn't make you a bad mum. I'm sure we'll be fine - at least that's what I'm telling myself smile

Mitchell2 Wed 05-Feb-14 13:24:41

Mina - another in the not maternal / shitting myself boat. Although was planned I thought (and my told by my gynae) that it would take ages and I would have had time to get in the mindset a bit more. It was very quick and I didn't even have time to actually think about what I was doing. Even when I have my scans I am a bit like - er are you sure that is inside of me?!

Oh and not being able to go out, have cocktails and basically live my old life is killing me and I really hope that I can get my mojo back with baby and be a person AND a mother at the same time.

Redcliff Wed 05-Feb-14 14:39:45

I remember feeling like that with my DS and we had been trying for 5 years. I think the thing I still miss the most is random nights out - when I would just e mail DP and say "let's go to the cinema / out for dinner "

mylittlel Wed 05-Feb-14 15:38:41

panic, thank you, i think it started to sink in slowly)

HannahC1989 Wed 05-Feb-14 15:50:55

Hello ladies,
Went to the doctors yday and she told me i have pubic symthesis, which i will need physiotherapy for, and im told it will only get worse in the next 18 n half weeks!
Anybody any advice.... im in agony and struggle to walk, sometimes, but stopping isnt an option x

Stacks Wed 05-Feb-14 17:43:22

Hannah - you really do need to take it easy. Some women end up wheelchair bound for the last bit of their pregnancy from it. It seems like too much to slow down, but your body will force you if you don't. I think the main advice is "knees together" imagine you're wearing a mini skirt and no knickers! Get into/out of cars/bed etc with knees together, don't cross your legs, and get some sensible flat shoes (or low solid heels). Good luck!

Redcliff Wed 05-Feb-14 18:20:11

Hannah - that sounds horrible . I hope the treatment helps - good luck.

Bezzabelle Wed 05-Feb-14 19:35:31

Boots have got 3 for 2 on baby things and amazon have big box of newborn nappies for £7.66- bargain!

MarlenaGru Wed 05-Feb-14 22:35:15

mina no matter how prepared you think you are a baby is a massive shock. You will cope because you have to and it will probably take more than a few weeks to feel like you again but I promise you at some point you will be you again, probably a better you!

I had a major mid life crisis after having my DD (well hopefully not too mid life as I was only 28) but I got through it (just) and now I really am me but better as I have a gorgeous 5 year old and it was worth it.

panicmechanic Thu 06-Feb-14 08:50:23

Marlena Gru I totally agree. You can't really prepare yourself fully. I also remember my mum reminding me I was on maternity leave so to forget about work for a few months as I wouldn't have brain capacity for it all (I laughed when she said it because we run my our business and have always been able to control things) she was so right thu. When I accepted I would be doing less for a few months things were much easier. Now I do everything I did before plus I have a munchkin! But you have to be super organised.