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February 2014 - all our bags are packed, we're ready to go...

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sunflowered Wed 01-Jan-14 20:19:20

Well... we're getting there at least, and definitely ready to meet the first thread baby!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 01-Jan-14 20:22:49

I filled up the last thread by mistake!! I wanted to add that when you take your pillow in, use a distinctive pillowcase so yours doesn't go astray!! grin

laura0007 Wed 01-Jan-14 20:23:09

Well my bag isn't yet....baby's bag is but mine not so much! Thanks for new thread sunflowered!

LittlePandaBear Wed 01-Jan-14 20:23:09

My bag isn't packed! I'm not ready to go!

CubanoHabana Wed 01-Jan-14 20:23:46

Baby back packed - stuff for me is in a drawer... Hmmm, not sure if I have packed too many baby clothes - 4 vests and 4 sleep suits, cardie, mittens, hats, socks...

jazzcat28 Wed 01-Jan-14 20:24:41

Marking place on shiney new thread which will hopefully be blessed with a baby from one of us soon - eeeeekk!!!

DawnOfTheDee Wed 01-Jan-14 20:27:59

Who asked about milestones now Christmas/NYE are over? I think this thread starting is a definite one i.e. the one where there will actually be some BABIES on it....eek!

Ta for the new thread sunflowered smile

Fwiw I was told to bring pillows but forgot and there was never any shortage. I think it's a bit weird really.....can you imagine going into hospital for anything else and being told to bring bedding and/or pillows?

I haven't packed my bag yet....really need to get a move on. Will attempt a trip into town though this week i think so can pick up last bits and pieces then.

Champagnebubble Wed 01-Jan-14 20:29:05

Thanks Sunflowered! grin

Interested to see who will be first! Way back in June/July I didn't think we'd ever get here.......and we have!!!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!!

Champagnebubble Wed 01-Jan-14 20:31:28

I think it is strange that people feel the need to steal pillows from a maternity ward....who'd wanna do that!?! But the midwife said that was the reason for asking people to bring pillows in. Odd. Very odd!!!!!!!

marzipanned Wed 01-Jan-14 20:32:16

Nope, bag not packed here either! (Not fully packed anyway - I have the bag my MIL did for me for Xmas but need to add all the functional bits smile ) Baby not allowed to arrive for at least another fortnight as dissertation due!

Re nail varnish - it's so they can check your blood flow if you're under anaesthetic - they press the nail down and see how quickly blood returns. So clear would presumably be fine...

I must say it felt brilliant not to be hungover today. A swift puke this morning but nothing compared to previous January 1sts!!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 01-Jan-14 20:34:09

I have a lovely luxurious pillow and I found it really comforting to have with me. Not so much during labour but for the 3 night stay afterwards. It smelled of home and was lovely and soft (the hospital ones are very basic!!)

marzipanned Wed 01-Jan-14 20:34:17

Champs that is SO bizarre. Though I am a bit funny about taking anything personal into hospital. When my Mum was in when I was little, I gave her one of my stuffed toys to remind her of home...and someone stole it!! Just...what goes through people's heads?!

sunflowered Wed 01-Jan-14 20:35:40

dawn that's what I thought about the moses basket sheets on the last thread - do some hosps just leave babies on inpatient wards to sleep on blue tissue paper? They must be able to stretch to sheets for newborns too <slopes off to check the lists of local nhs savings plans that I might or might not be able to read through work>

I should add that my bag isn't +actually+ packed... but reading all your lists makes me feel like I'm ready to go grin (that and the arse, feet and knees that have been wedged under my ribs all day. I know they're better than a head being up there but they hurt and I would like them out) (please)

marzipanned Wed 01-Jan-14 20:36:00

Btw - has anyone else been having slightly dizzy periods? Not of the passing out variety but of the - everything looks a bit out of sync and far away variety. Am assuming it's just because blood is having to travel round a lot more body atm.

Unplastered Wed 01-Jan-14 20:37:54

My bag is nowhere near packed! In fact I don't even have a bag to pack! That's the only issue with going on holiday in a touring caravan - no holdalls or suitcases chez Unplastered :-) the only things I do have are rucksacks - not sure my 90 litre Vango is all that appropriate for the labour ward though.

Totally not baby related but - Sherlock's back in twenty minutes!! Finally I get to find out how he faked his own death.

Poppy954 Wed 01-Jan-14 20:42:14

The last thread lasted over a month so it is an almost certainty we will have some babies on this one. So agree dawn this is another milestone!

EeyoreIsh Wed 01-Jan-14 20:47:14

oooh, this will be the thread with babies on! grin grin grin

I've packed one bag, with the key essentials in. I need to add to it with things like nighties, dressing gown etc.

I plan to have a list on top of the bag for last minute additions, like pillow, going home clothes etc.

Baby has been quiet all day and no movement in the last hour or so. I will have to eat some cake to get it going!

LittlePandaBear Wed 01-Jan-14 20:50:26

I recommend taking a nursing pillow with you - much easier to get baby in the right position for feeding (although I'm hardly the expert at breastfeeing but it would have been even more difficult without it). Especially after a section - I couldn't bend my middle to reach baby so was much better using the pillow to get her up closer to me.

I have a feeling this thread will move quicker than the last one as we're getting closer, more people on mat leave and more things for us to worry and speculate about! So there may not be many babies on this thread after all!

LovesToBake Wed 01-Jan-14 20:50:48

Agree with Dawn and Poppy - this new thread is a massive milestone and I will be hooked waiting for the news of the first birth which could easily be in the next week, so exciting!

I second the excellent advice about breast pads from Poppy and Thingy. I had a major oversupply issue and found breast shells a godsend and similarly got into the habit of freezing the excess that was collected from the side I wasn't feeding from during a feed. Saying that, once I stopped bf I ended up chucking out almost a whole drawer full of little bags of frozen milk because it all just became a bit of a faff. Determined to steer clear of the pump as long as possible this time - I was given so much mixed and poor advice last time and one thing I learnt is that if you've got an oversupply issue, using a pump 'to help empty the breast' is the worst advice ever as it just encourages the body to keep overproducing. Agreed that in the early months when you're not in an established feeding pattern and leakage is more likely, the Lansinoh pads are definitely the best. Later on, I switched to the washables which were good but only once supply had settled down.

Feeling thoroughly confused by what day of the week it is tonight. Feels like a Sunday night - DH off to work tomorrow but then only two days until the weekend. Will actually be quite glad when next Monday comes around and I know where I am!

LittlePandaBear Wed 01-Jan-14 20:51:08

I don't know what breastfeeing is either, sounds dodgy, but I'm not an expert at that either.

CubanoHabana Wed 01-Jan-14 20:53:36

Yay to Sherlock!

winterflowers Wed 01-Jan-14 20:54:04

We're having babies next month! And probably some.of us this month also we'd best get a wiggle on with the bags. grin

EeyoreIsh Wed 01-Jan-14 20:54:46

I really want my baby this month! Once I've gone past 38 weeks though..

sunflowered Wed 01-Jan-14 20:59:24

Dh is rather pleased with himself that on the 'which sherlock character are you' quiz he came out as Sherlock and I came out as Watson...

Unplastered I think the mws would prefer a 90l backpack to some of what they get on labour ward!

Shropshiremummy2B Wed 01-Jan-14 21:00:01

sugarmice why do you need maternity pads if you're having a c section? Is that a stupid question? I assumed that if you weren't passing a human through your fouff that there would be no change down there?

Thisisfreakingmeout Wed 01-Jan-14 21:06:33

Marking place. Here's to the first thread babies!

Artisticme Wed 01-Jan-14 21:14:09

Yayy new threadsmile) thanks sun

Is anyone able to add me into the fb page please?

marzi yeah I'm getting dizzy all the time, and short of breath. Think it would be to do with my iron levels though but probably partly to do with baby getting bigger and reducing our breathing space in general! Crazy that our babes will still almost double I size before we give birth! How is it even possible to fit any more in?

On the hospital bag front, Iv not really started yet. Going to get a list sorted out this week and get purchasing I think. Ooo getting close girlies!!!!

Champagnebubble Wed 01-Jan-14 21:14:44

Marzi that's so sad that some people would stoop so low to steal from a hospital!

I'm recording Sherlock so no spoilers please!!!!!!!!! grin. Too tired to watch it tonight, will watch tomorrow! Gives me something to look forward to! hmm

LovesToBake Wed 01-Jan-14 21:21:42

Marzi I was meaning to ask you, what was in the hospital bag that your MIL put together for you in the end? <nosey>

Poppy954 Wed 01-Jan-14 21:24:12

Not sure if it's been mentioned in the hospital bag lists but don't forget change for hospital parking. It's worth packing enough change for at least two stays ( one when you go in and one when you get picked up) but probably more.

Champagnebubble Wed 01-Jan-14 21:27:06

That's a good point Poppy, we always scrabble around trying to find pound coins in our house! You can never find them when you need them either can you?! smile

misskatamari Wed 01-Jan-14 21:30:43

Yaaaaay new thread! And yaaaaay Sherlock - I didn't know it was on today so will watch tomorrow on catch up!

I need to do hospital bag sorting this week. Hopefully won't need it but I feel totally unprepared for going in if I need to so want to get one out together. By the sounds of it I need to buy some scratch mitts too as I hadn't even considered needing them!

Just done my spinning babies inversion move which involves kneeling on the sofa and dropping arms down on to the floor. Thank god DH was with me as my arms are so bloody weak after not exercising for 8 months that I can barely heft myself back up again! Expecting the delivery of my cotbed and birth pool tomorrow eeeek! And I want to attempt to try and sort some stuff in the nursery - around the piles of stuff that belongs downstairs that is living there till we get the new carpet!

marzipanned Wed 01-Jan-14 21:31:10

Loves grin Gorgeous jammies (probably shouldn't actually take those? Will I end up bleeding all over them?), slippers, a few practical toiletries (mini shampoo etc) and lots of very nice but totally impractical toiletries which I have squirrelled away for post-birth bliss. Bless her, she seems to have forgotten all about the bodily fluids side of things smile

Artistic good point about the lack of breathing space! Mine should be over 5lbs by now so hoping she doesn't quite double in size before birth...

misskatamari Wed 01-Jan-14 21:32:08

Oooh and hospital parking - I don't know if any of yours are similar but at ours you can get a maternity parking permit thing that is a tenner and lasts through pregnancy and to a month after birth. Definitely worth investing if they do them

marzipanned Wed 01-Jan-14 21:32:56

misskat re scratch mitts have a look at your babygros as a lot of them have them built in (they just look like cuffs on the sleeves but actually can fold over to make a little mitt)
Hope your inversions work a treat! When are you next seeing MW?

misskatamari Wed 01-Jan-14 21:33:12

Artistic if you pm me your email address I'll add you to the fb group when I'm on my laptop tomorrow

LemonDrizzleCake11 Wed 01-Jan-14 21:38:46

Marzipanned - dizzy quite a lot now... in fact embarassingly fainted with most inconvenient timing at work earlier this week which has made me decide to take my holiday now and start mat leave a bit earlier (as my job is really not one that you can be fainting in!) Since I'm not anaemic/my blood sugars are fine I think the dizziness is to do with baby being bigger and intermittently not letting blood flow around the way it usually does/should!

As for the nail varnish thing - the oxygen saturation probes docs pop on your fingers to check your blood oxygen levels if you're not very well/having an anaesthetic work by colour of blood through nail, so aren't always accurate/able to work if you have nail varnish on.

Sassy20 Wed 01-Jan-14 22:09:11

Marking place x

gnittinggnome Wed 01-Jan-14 22:28:05

jazzcat They will monitor your blood sugar levels every hour in labour, and if they go above 7mmol you'll be put on an insulin drip. This is because (I am told by my MW) the baby is still connected to you, and still ingesting amniotic fluid, so may produce too much insulin if there is too much sugar in its environment, which means it may come out hypoglyceamic, which is not so good. It's not a major panic/risk, I think, but still requires extra attention. I'm taking in oaty drops, which have been my chocolate substitute (basically an oat and nut flapjack bound with banana and no sugar), nuts and fresh fruit to eat, because hospital food just isn't going to cut it. But I was told on Monday at my GD appt not to bring in sugary drinks, like Lucozade, because that will tip me instantly over the edge, and I'll have less ability to move around if I'm attached to a drip...

Shrops the un-needed blood and stuff in the womb has to get out somehow! I don't think they'd do a D&C after a c-section, but if anyone knows for sure please chip in!

My hospital bag is sat by the front door with a list of last-minute stuff pinned to it, and there's a little bag for Bean as well... But I keep reading all your lists and adding more things to it! Wondering if I can put in a cool box for soda water during labour, given that everything in a cold vending machine will be unsuitable...

Artisticme Wed 01-Jan-14 22:29:47

misskat how do I pm you? Probably a stupid question but I only ever use my phone as OH takes the laptop to work with him 2 weeks at a timesad thankyousmile

misskatamari Wed 01-Jan-14 22:41:34

Eeek not sure I'm afraid artisticme - I know how to do it on computer but not sure on app hmm

Gnitting I've heard a lot of people recommending to take a bottle of frozen water so you can have chilled water when it melts

bugsyburge Wed 01-Jan-14 23:20:41

just marking my place smile

Artisticme Wed 01-Jan-14 23:40:40

Aw boo, may have to wait till OH is home from work for a few days and sneak on his laptopsmile

sunflowered Wed 01-Jan-14 23:59:27

Artistic - not sure if every version of the app is the same but when I open up there's a screen with home, I'm on, I'm watching, topics, etc. One of the icons is for a pm.

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 00:19:31

Shrops I can confirm that you really do need maternity pads after a csection. I was bleeding/passing locia (sp) for a fair while after my emcs. A lot of it. Blurgh.

Btw the period like pains you get after giving birth are intense so don't be shy about taking/asking for painkillers if you're suffering. I remember thinking 'no-one told me about this bit!' when i was on the postnatal ward.

Scratch mits!!! Does anyone have any good recommendations of babygrows with these 'built in'? I've only got one or two and want to buy a couple more. Actual separate scratch mitts were next to useless...DD1 managed to get the first one off before you'd got the second one on. In the end I just left them off unless attached to the babygrow... <bad mother emoticon needed> blush

CubanoHabana Thu 02-Jan-14 01:14:44

Can't sleep! sad

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 01:28:34

Me neither sad Apparently really really tired but not sleepy is my new 'thing'.

Shropshiremummy2B Thu 02-Jan-14 04:02:09

Ok, makes perfect sense re the bleeding/ c section thing. Twas a stupid question.

Very awake and thinking about what snacks to take into hospital is making me hungry. Luckily I have a banana by my bed which DH finds totes hilare. Pervert. I am the sort of person that will pack lots if different snacks but commeth the hour not fancy any of them. Fussy beggar.

Can't believe it's now officially the 2nd of Jan.... I am due in under a month! Don't want this to be over.

EeyoreIsh Thu 02-Jan-14 04:36:59

oooh, I'm due a month today, how very exciting!

I wish I had a snack by my bed. I'm starving. And baby still isn't moving much so I could do with a glass of juice and some toast. But getting up means getting past my parent's crazy dog!

KalevalaForMePlease Thu 02-Jan-14 05:18:16

Marking place on new thread! I'm not due till 22nd February so lots of other births to sit through before mine, hopefully! Haven't even started thinking about hospital bag, must get that sorted. Thanks for all the helpful lists, you'd think I'd remember from last time, but no.

Thingymajigs Thu 02-Jan-14 05:28:01

I'm awake too. Just marking my place really but I'm another one whose due date is nearly a month away (4th). I think I'll miss Bob the squirmy bump but I'm sick of waddling, insomnia and the bloody annoying restless legs. This baby is all I can think about, I have even started boring my family, so I just want to meet him now.

good morning preggos - I knew I should have come here for company when I woke up an hour ago grin finally got to sleep early last night but forgot to sleep in the other side angry I am also hungry but cba getting up yet. ds will probably decide to sleep in til 7 today too.
feeling v tired and emotional this last week or so. cried yesterday because I trapped my finger in a door (fair enough) but also because the cheese grater and soup spoons were dirty.
my craving for bleach is back with a bang - I just want to sniff it ALL the time! might mention it to mw next week as could be a sign of low iron but I do rather enjoy this craving shock
no bags packed here yet (only 32+6) but baby now has some leggings so feel like I am making progress grin

Champagnebubble Thu 02-Jan-14 07:09:26

Aaaargh can't sleep either, since 5am this morning. This insomnia is totally new to me. I can usually sleep for any length of time and anywhere. I'm dreading going to bed these days shock

What to do today hmm I have so much still left to do, but do I have the energy that is ze question...confused

Sassy20 Thu 02-Jan-14 07:16:21

Another one who's been awake since 4.30! Read for a bit, then ate a banana at about 6 as was hungry, then had to get up for gaviscon and now just lying here unable to sleep despite being tired! Dd will no doubt be up soon and I'm going to be knackered later on. Ugggh. X

rueyrichardson Thu 02-Jan-14 08:19:51

Morning all. I have backtowork-itis, currently I am on my (later than usual) commuter train plotting how I can work from home a few days next week to overcome the exhaustion! MW for me this arvo, hoping that she will come up with some info regarding low lying placentas and how people with them should mainly sit around and eat crisps. At the moment I don't have a problem with sleep in the night, but I feel for those who have - nothing more frustrating. Lavender oil in a vaporiser at bath time helps me occasionally but does not really prevent early waking.

5 weeks to go til EDD.

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 08:44:25

Thanks for the sleep suit scratch mitt tip marzi - I think some of mine do have them on - will need a look. If not I'm tempted to just bung some baby socks on her hands - surely they're the same! I see a consultant at hospital on Monday for scan to check if baby is breech then if so I'll see mw the week after when I'm 37 weeks. If not and baby is right way round she'll come over on weds and discuss home birth things. Fingers and toes crossed for that option!

Wow there must have been something in the air last night - I was awake from about 5 too and ended up eating crackers in bed as started feeling sick. Eventually got back to sleep for a bit about half 7 but now I need to be up and awaiting courier deliveries. Maybe I can have breakfast and just nap on the sofa so I can hear the front door.

Ruey I hope you manage to get some work from days - early morning trains do not sound like fun at all. I think more sitting around eating crisps is definitely needed smile

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 08:46:52

Artisticme - I've sent you a pm on the app so fingers crossed you get it. Thanks for the tip on how sunflowered!

LittlePandaBear Thu 02-Jan-14 08:52:49

Morning all - although it still feels like it should be nighttime. I've also not been sleeping properly at all - either it's baby squirming, me not being comfortable, DH with his cold breathing on me, or last night it was DD waking me up lots.

She's started having the most vivid imagination which is cute in the day (she has an imaginary friend called Barney) but not so cute at night! She was crying that she had 2 balloons in her mouth. It was a nonsense but she was upset about it. The night before she said that the pirates were coming and I had to stay with her to keep her safe. I think I've been letting her watch too much tv...

Oh well, I'm 34 weeks today smile

winterflowers Thu 02-Jan-14 09:37:20

ruey definitely find a way to work from home! Hopefully they should allow you to be a bit more flexible now you're getting close...

Need to start thinking of hospital bag snacks, but knowing me as well I'll end up fancying something totally bizarre and unpackable.

Love the idea of socks as scratch mitts misskat, I don't have many.of those either yet but seems like a better investment!

Artisticme Thu 02-Jan-14 09:59:48

dawn I'm pretty sure debenhams and next have a few different baby grows with the fold over mitssmile they really are so much better!!

Really feel for everyone having sleepless nightssad I'm only getting them maybe once a week at the moment other than DD waking up with bad dreams.

misskat just noticed I have an inboxsmile) haha thankyou I'll go have a nosey and see if I can message you back.

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 10:22:57

Snack wise I'm thinking nuts and dried fruit, sweets, cereal bars, nakd bars, bananas, coconut water, sports drinks, lots of water and ice bottle, sandwiches, apples, emergency Pepsi max incase I'm knackered and need a caffeine boost, crisps (always need crisps on hand).... That's all I can think of for now. I always carry snacks with me as notice my blood sugar dropping easily and feel really crap when it does so want to make sure I have lots on hand if needed. God I'm gonna need a hospital suitcase (the type you take for two weeks on holiday!)

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 10:48:51

Thanks Artisticme I'll have a look.

misskat I remember when i was in having DD1 I asked dh to get me a coke and they wouldn't let me have anything fizzy. Can't remember why now.

I couldn't actually manage eating that much as i felt a bit sicky here and there but when i did the best things were cereal bars (also useful when you have a newborn btw!) and dried apricots.

KalevalaForMePlease Thu 02-Jan-14 11:22:56

I don't think I had any snacks last time, didn't even think of it! This time with the GD I suppose I'd better be more organised.

Oh my God, that first cup of tea and sandwich after you have the baby is the nicest thing ever! Mine was a cheese sandwich. I didn't like cheese sandwiches but I fell on it like a savage. Poor DH got nothing. I now like cheese sandwiches!

Julietee Thu 02-Jan-14 11:23:43

Bag not packed (nor bought for), hardly any baby clothes, no travel system/ car seat.... ohhhh christiscles.
The only thing I'm actually organised with is the NCT bednest hire! Still, no sheets for that even once it does arrive. I think I am the least organised person on this thread.
Has anyone else had no nesting instinct yet? Just me?

Meanwhile I remain jealous of those of you already past 35 weeks - somehow that seems a lifetime away from 32 weeks! Then again, it has all the way through these past few threads and I've always managed to catch up eventually...hmm.

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 11:27:26

Julietee I'm not much of a nester. My instinct consists of thinking about things I should do then every so often making some microwave fudge.

Been looking on debenhams website for sleepsuits with fold over sleeves/mitts attached. I can't quite tell but do these look like they have they foldy over bit on ? linky

Littleen Thu 02-Jan-14 11:32:57

marzi I get dizzy several times a day - only slightly, but annoying! It's due to increased blood supply according to my midwife and 1000 books read smile Nothing to worry about.

Hospital pillows and beds... Got to ask my midwife next week, don't even know which bag to put stuff in yet. As far as I remember, hospital beds are amaaazing to sleep on. Then again, last time I was in hospital for a few days I was in a very zombie-drugged-out state, so everything would probably feel comfy!

Sherlock.. Will have to watch it! My other half and his brother have decided that Sherlock is the name of the baby. Hrmf. Boys eh!

I feel utterly freaked out that little one still have loads of growing to do (still got 7 weeks left). Movements can be quite painful and sore, and I just don't get how it's going to work! Also the actual giving birth part have suddenly dawned on me, and I am not impressed by the idea...

prettyprudence I have on several occasions cried when the cheese grater has been dirty too - feel you on that one, haha! Even worse since getting a dish washer, as then I don't even have the option of cleaning it to use it, just have to wait!

Julietee My nesting instinct arrived about 3 days ago! So you're not the only one not in a rush smile

marzipanned Thu 02-Jan-14 11:34:14

Dawn I had a look at my newborn size babygros and they all have the inbuilt mitts. Since they were in gumtree bundle they are from all sorts of places - Next, Sains, etc. It looks to me like the ones in the pic you linked do because you can see a bit of extra fabric sticking out from behind the cuff (most obvious on the very far right sleeve)

www.next.co.uk/x533900s4#872147x53 Looks like those ones might too but a bit hard to tell not in person!

Julietee Thu 02-Jan-14 11:38:16

Dawn Haha, I like it smile
Those suits do look like something's going on at the arm, but the description is quite poorly written so I wouldn't trust that they'd have included that in the details.

Ok - help identify a clothing item for me.
What are those long onesie type things called that end in a dress/bag fastening instead of legs? So you don't have to fiddle with the legs while nappy changing? My aunt told me they're really good.

P.S. I reckon one of us will have popped by the time I start NCT classes on the 15th!

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 11:41:11

Cheers marzi I thought that too. I'll take a chance on them i think as they're in the sale!

gnittinggnome Thu 02-Jan-14 11:42:33

julietee I've seen them referred to as "bunting bags" or sometimes "changing bags" as you can change a nappy without undressing the baby / getting them cold.

Julietee Thu 02-Jan-14 11:45:56

Thanks! Will have a google. I'm currently searching the mothercare site with no luck.

Timpani Thu 02-Jan-14 11:48:11

Oh goodness it feels so very real now it's 2014. Due date is less than a month away now. And if it's anything like it's sibling it'll be born before the month is out. Argh.

I haven't packed a bag, got anything down from the attic or ANYTHING.

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 12:01:50

Ooooh good call Julietee - I wanna try and get some of those for sleeping in too. I know someone posted a link a while ago but can't remember where it was for! My nesting comes and goes. Some days I just don't want to move from the sofa and others I can be quite proactive. The sun is out today so I'm being productive grin gonna have a break and eat some cheese and crackers (mmmm pasteurised brie!!!) and then get some sort of hospital bag list together on the computer. Then I'm going to attempt to make a dent in the room of doom! Oh god and I need to try and get to the library as I have 5 books over a month over due! I'm gonna get told off and a mega fine. Books are in said room of doom too so fingers crossed I can actually find them!

LittlePandaBear Thu 02-Jan-14 12:15:53

Miss Kat - you can call the library or renew online these days - not sure if you can pay a fine without going in though but you may be able to stop the fine getting any bigger!

I think I like nesting as I'm a bit of a shopaholic and it's a good excuse to buy stuff. I'm more about the buying than the cleaning though - haven't washed the sheets/clothes/blankets yet so I have that to look forward to.

Also agree about getting sleepsuits with fold over mitts, the separate ones just seem to fall off all the time. I'm sure Next and Sainsburys have these as standard and probably loads more places too.

tinypolkadot Thu 02-Jan-14 12:16:51

Sorry to hear about all the trouble sleeping. I went to bed at just after 1am last night to discover dh cuddling my maternity pillow which meant it was all warm and out of shape. I like to get into a cool crisp bed when I can, so got off to a bad start but managed to sleep until 11.30! shock couldn't believe it when I checked the time.

Dh has just text to say he's had to get all 4 tyres replaced. Just had mine done 2 months ago, bloody expensive but I guess at least the bean will be safe when he arrives.

Hospital bag - I have tried to do it a couple of times but just stand there looking at the list and all the baby stuff and not knowing what to pack first. Also what size is everyone taking? When they say 3 baby grows is that 3 0-3 month and 3 newborn or a mixture of the two? What if he's tiny or long?! Argh, too many things I don't know! As for snacks, I've bought a 4 pack of toffee crisps, is that not enough?!

First proper day of maternity leave for me, yay, and we start nct classes this evening. It's getting closer!

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 12:19:07

I thought I could do it online too but couldn't find anywhere that actually let me do it. Tried calling and all the lines are busy so will try again in a bit to stop the fine growing (fingers crossed). It's lovely outside so I'm hoping to take a walk up there anyway later (maybe with a quick trip to feed the ducks) although I probably won't actually be bothered grin

I think the sleep suits I bought at Sainsburys had the fold over hand mitt things too so would definitely second looking there ladies

jazzcat28 Thu 02-Jan-14 12:39:25

julietee and misskat I think you are referring to baby bundlers? Like these from M&S and this one from mamas & papas (currently in sale!)

I am also confused about what to take for baby tiny. Have so far packed 3 newborn outfits and 1 0-3mth, with spare 0-3mth stuff to sit in the car which DH can grab if bean turns out to be huge!

Champagnebubble Thu 02-Jan-14 12:40:00

Those sleep suits you describe Julietee and Misskat are great - I've been bought some of these from John Lewis - but they have loads.....


Not nesting here tbh, I'm too tired! I am trying to get organised by listing all the things I have to do on my spreadsheet though!

The midwife said that the reason for no sparkling drinks on the maternity ward is incase they need to give you drugs, she actually said on the 'lower risk' birth centre with just gas and air, pethidine then fizzy drinks are fine, but they advise against it even then just in case something happens and you need to get transferred. So, she recommended Lucozade sport - the drinks aren't fizzy they are still juices and come in orange, cherry, raspberry etc. I don't think I will actually like them, but I've bought a pack of 4 just in case, you never know!

I had one baby bundler from JL for ds and it was ok. I never changed his nappy if he was sleeping anyway and he tended to poo between feeds (so boob, nappy change to stir anyway but usually pooed after first boob, and then offer the next boob). They didn't seem as cosy as sleepsuits but at least there are no poppers to deal with in the middle of the night when you are not as alert as baby seems to be!

tinypolkadot Thu 02-Jan-14 12:57:05

Ooh, that's a good idea jazz I think I'll do the same.

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 13:10:03

Ooooh thanks Jazz and Champagne. I might get a coulple and see how they go.

Wooo hooo i've made my home birth/hospital bag checklist. It is mammoth! How i'm gonna get it all there I do not know! Ooooh I wanna go and buy new cheapo granny knickers and miniature toiletries now! grin Thanks so much for sharing the ones on the last thread ladies - I've nicked loads and added in some of my own hippy stuff like rescue remedy and aromatherapy oils etc smile.

Wow it's getting real now!

LovesToBake Thu 02-Jan-14 13:14:12

Dawn, you had me at microwave fudge. Can you elaborate? On the sleepsuits with scratch mitts built in topic, I found Sainsbury's were great. I was given some normal scratch mitts as a gift but never even opened the packet. Not quite sure I see the point, even now. I always kept DS' fingernails neatly trimmed so he couldn't do any damage with the odd scratch and I didn't really like the look of them with mitts on. MissKat - socks would definitely do the job although again , I'm a fan of keeping it simple for the first few months, so baby just in vests and sleepsuits, no socks required, particularly with them being winter babies so cosy is top of my list.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Thu 02-Jan-14 14:56:47

M&S has 2 packs of bundlers for £8 in their sale. In pink, blue or grey and white. I've stocked up and they're lovely. I can't stand poppers confusedconfusedconfused

EeyoreIsh Thu 02-Jan-14 15:29:22

Those bundlers look gorgeous and practical but I can't justify spending money on more baby clothes, we've got so much handed down. Sadly no bundlers!

missk we also have a room of doom. Or more accurately, several blush
I've just been shopping with my mum. She treated us to the lakeland heated airer, which I'm very pleased about as we really struggle with drying clothes. She also bought a cute onesie for baby. And then we went to phase eight, big mistake! Their clothes suit me really well, and they had a sale on, so I bought a dress and shirt top for post baby/breastfeeding. I have no idea what size I'll be post baby, so I went with a size bigger than pre pregnancy to cover increased boobage. Both actually fitted my 35 week belly, so I hope they're not too large. The dress will be really practical though, it's a knitted v neck so u can breastfeed in it, and it's smart enough for the wedding I've got in early March.

For the maternity bag, I've currently got tiny baby clothes in there. I'll add some new born in a week or so, and at term I'll have a mix of new born and 0-3. I have no clue how big baby will be, it's bum feels huge through my bump, just like it's mum grin

EeyoreIsh Thu 02-Jan-14 15:30:34

gosh, sorry for all the typos and bad grammar in that postblush I blame baby brain!

Kungfubaby Thu 02-Jan-14 17:27:36

Hi all,
Mind if I join the party at this late stage? smile
I'm due 31st Jan with my 1st, so much more likely to be a Feb baby! Have been reading this thread for a while now but now I'm on mat leave (yippee!) will have more time to post.
Another one here who needs to stop procrastinating and actually pack my hospital bag! We're planning a home birth but need to have one ready just in case... and I'm so huge everyone keeps telling me I'll be early! I've set myself a deadline of tomorrow evening to get all the bits together so DH can pack it. Now I've put that out there I have to actually do it I suppose grin
NCT tonight so need to get off my backside and sort out some dinner before DH gets in from work. The classes have been a bit 'meh' so far and haven't really bonded with anyone yet, so hoping things are better tonight. Will catch up with everyone later smile

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 17:30:18

Microwave fudge recipe

100g (4oz) milk or plain chocolate, broken into pieces
100g (4oz) butter, melted (not low fat spread)
450g (1lb) icing sugar
45ml (3tbsp) milk
a few drops of vanilla or other flavouring essence (optional)

Place the chocolate into a glass heatproof bowl and heat on medium for 2-3 minutes. Stop the cooking time and stir every 30 seconds or so, until just melted.

Add the butter, icing sugar, essence and milk, mix well.

Heat on high for 3-4 minutes, take out of the microwave and beat well every minute.

The mixture and bowl will be very hot, so take care.

When the mixture starts to set around the edges of the bowl and becomes thicker, it's ready to pour into a greased, 20cm x 15cm (8" x 6") dish.

Allow to set for a few minutes before marking into squares using a knife, and leave to cool before removing from the tin.

Place in paper sweet cakes and keep in an airtight container for upto a week.


It says milk or plain choc (which is v nice btw) but i have done it with white chocolate too which is my fave. Can make it a bit squidgyer so you might have to add extra icing sugar and i usually put it in the fridge to set/cool.

I also tend to ignore the bit about it keeping for up to a week and just shove it all in my face in an unseemly manner.

Just reminded me that we took some into hospital when i was having DD1 - midwives liked it although they had to eat it fast as it got a bit melty due to temperatures in there.

Enjoy! grin

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 17:31:51

Welcome kungfubaby! smile

CubanoHabana Thu 02-Jan-14 17:36:46

Dawn that sounds amazing! Of course need a microwave first...

jazzcat28 Thu 02-Jan-14 17:40:45

dawn that recipe is on my post-birth post-GD to do list! Sounds yum!

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 17:44:23

You have to buy one Cubano. It's what microwaves were made for...

winterflowers Thu 02-Jan-14 17:45:52

Woohoo dawn it's been far too long since we've had a good microwave recipe - thanks!

Saw mw today, after measuring spot on at 28 wks am now two weeks behind at 32wks (measuring 30). She didn't seem too bothered about it so am hoping it's just different people. She also didn't say anything abt the wc jab, although I'm still not sure about it. Guess I can do it at 35wk appt though if I decide to do it. Bean's hb All fine though and she's still head down although not engaged. Mw then reassuringly said she did still have space.to move but 'should' stay put. Bloody well hope she doesn't budge!

misskatamari Thu 02-Jan-14 18:05:04

Dawn that recipe sounds awesome! grin I love fudge but have never made it so will definitely give it a go!

Welcome kungfu - we're hoping for a home birth too (if baby gets herself the right way round!). I hope your nct classes go well tonight.

I'm jealous of your clothes shooing Eeyore! I can't wait to buy some nice clothes again. The heated airer sounds awesome too!

Good to hear baby is head down winter - just make sure to sit up right etc to keep her there!

I'm so tired after being quite productive today and am currently lying on the bed trying to motivate myself to move. It's my anniversary of meeting DH today and he's back in work so gonna be in late booo so I foresee a very lazy evening of sofa and then early bed. Might catch up on Sherlock - ooh and record the new birds of a feather that's on at half 8! smile

Julietee Thu 02-Jan-14 18:17:55

Hi Kungfu!

Winter I'm worried about him turning breach again too! Not sure what to do to prevent it.

winterflowers Thu 02-Jan-14 18:17:59

Argh misskat now I'm not at work I hardly ever sit straight, am either lounging or in bed. Or both.

Your evening sounds lovely although it sucks your DH has to work on your meeting anniversary. Hope you can celebrate properly another night

rueyrichardson Thu 02-Jan-14 18:27:25

Welcome Kungfu. Hope you have a good NCT session this evening. Eeyorish could you let me know what you think about that heated airer when you've used it? I've had my eye on one for a bit but we are still using radiators. I had a few of those bundlers for our last baby - didn't use them, don't recall doing much nappy changing in the night unless really really necessary. Maybe we did in the very early days but re-evaluated priorities (sleepgrin) pretty quickly.

laura0007 Thu 02-Jan-14 18:29:06

Eek, my boss has just told me her friend (who is due 30th Jan, 6 days before me) has just been sent down for an emergency c section due to pre eclampsia. I'm so scared now, this is all a bit real. I'm actually going to have a baby anytime from now really and I have to look after it and keep it alive for 18 years!

barebranches Thu 02-Jan-14 19:19:07

oooh new thread!
my bag is not packed and im definatly not ready!!!!

HarlemWobble Thu 02-Jan-14 19:22:51

Sharing your pain re backtoworkitius Ruey. Getting up this morning was a really struggle after a lovely 12day Xmas break. When do you finish? I've got 21 working days left (last day 31st Jan)!

Not even a hint of a packed hospital bag here. I must admit I'm finding it hard to focus getting baby stuff done while I'm still at work. Hopefully that will change once mat leave starts!

First impressions of the guy covering my mat leave seem good. He's keen to get on with everything I'm giving him rather than watching me do it which suits me fine. Hopefully that means a more chilled out month for me!

Right, about to catch my train home, then it's dinner and bed for me, I'm exhausted!

EeyoreIsh Thu 02-Jan-14 19:38:48

ruey the airer is getting delivered sometime in the next week, I'll let you know how I get on. It came recommended from various friends.

Have a lot of dull period pain feelings this evening along with the odd stabbing pain.

I'm a bit angry with my mother. It took me over two years to get pregnant, because I have endometriosis and a shitty supply of eggs. We were due to start ivf when I got pregnant naturally, shortly after a miscarriage. I had the excellent and happy news today that a good friend is 3 months pregnant, just 5 months after getting married. My mum's reaction was 'I don't know why it took you so long to work out how to get pregnant', followed by other gems. I was very good and bit my tongue but angry This is why I didn't tell her I was ttc until we had had all the investigations.

Unplastered Thu 02-Jan-14 19:48:29

eeyore some people are just thoughtless aren't they? We suffered with secondary infertility problems - I never started ovulating again after having my implant removed and all I got from most people I told (there weren't many) was a shrug and a 'you've done it once, just relax and it will happen' plus DH had his own, blood pressure related issues which made it even more difficult. I felt like yelling 'relaxing won't fertilise a non-existent egg fertilise all by itself, you pillock!!' But because they don't know what to say they say the first thing they think of.

LittlePandaBear Thu 02-Jan-14 19:56:12

What an insensitive thing for your mother to have said Eeyore! I'd be fuming. Does she know of the difficulties you had? Some people will try for years and not fall pregnant at all.

I think it's a generational thing - people just didn't talk about problems conceiving but now people are more open about it. My mum is always surprised at how common it is for people to need IVF, whereas for me, even though I haven't personally had problems, I know of enough people to think that conceiving a baby and having a full pregnancy is a miracle and not the norm!

Littleen Thu 02-Jan-14 20:08:34

Kungfu welcome to ze club smile Not long until you're due then, nearly a month before me!

Eeyore That's a terrible comment she made, and a very ignorant one too! Personally I had no idea how common it was to have problems, but you don't comment on these things anyway, seeing it's difficult to know!

LovesToBake Thu 02-Jan-14 20:09:12

Dawn that fudge recipe sounds incredible. I agree with Winter, it's been too long since we had a quality microwave recipe in our midst.

So today I bought three items for the new baby in the Gap sale. Still have masses of actual stuff to do (decorating DS' new room - it was the spare room), setting up his new furniture and moving him across to free up the nursery, sifting through all of his old clothes and newborn kit, packing a hospital bag etc. but suddenly the act of buying the first items for this baby made it feel very real and rather lovely. Must make a list/schedule for the next few weeks so the important stuff actually gets done...

Welcome Kungfu - I'm also hoping for a home birth this time (DC2 for me) and am really excited about the idea.

rueyrichardson Thu 02-Jan-14 20:15:49

Harlem I am finishing on the 24th, at 38 weeks. When I got into the groove, work was OK. But I agree it's making me not focus on baby stuff, which is a good or a bad thing dependent on when they plan on making an appearance I suppose. No bags packed here either! MW seemed not worried at all about darn placenta so back to plan A, no sofa time for me quite yet! Thanks eeyorish, would be interested in how well that airer gets things dry, every review I've read seems to rave about it!

EeyoreIsh Thu 02-Jan-14 21:35:30

My mum knows all about the problems I had ttc! She's lovely normally, but sometimes speaks without thinking. Both her and dsis had no problems getting pregnant, and so don't get it.

Baby has settled with its back poking out of the side of my tummy. It's very funny/tender!

marzipanned Thu 02-Jan-14 21:38:33

If any other electrically challenged types would care for a non microwave fudge recipe, I give you...

500g dark choc (unlike Dawn's, I think this really does need dark choc. But you can use the supermarket stuff i.e. >50% cocoa)
1 tin (400g) sweetened condensed milk
50g butter
1 tsp vanilla
pinch of salt if you like that sort of thing

Melt the first 3 ingredients together over low heat in a large, heavy based saucepan. When all melted, take off heat and beat in vanilla and salt. Pour into tupperware type affair. Leave to cool. Et voila. The best and easiest sweet thing I know how to make.

Eeyore I'm so sorry you got those comments from your Mum. We never did tell my PILs that I had fertility problems and I'm not sure how much they guessed, over time. When I did try to indirectly broach it with MIL, I got all the "well you just need to go on a nice relaxing holiday and it will happen" which made me keep my mouth firmly shut until we'd had our 7 week scan!

Welcome kungfu

DH has got the nesting bug big time. It all started with the rental of the Rug Doctor. For the past four hours he's been upstairs vacuuming, painting, building, taking things apart, occasionally running up and down stairs with various armfuls of books and sports equipment. It's not often that he does housework, but when he does, he REALLY goes for it.

Littleen Thu 02-Jan-14 22:18:03

What a rubbish day! Thought I had an appointment in town, but turned out it was the wrong date... So 3 hours spent on bus / waiting for the bus and wandering around with no money to buy anything. Now my SPD has come back with a vengeance!

Baby is snuggled right down and it's quite painful at times (is it supposed to be?)
Get home and OH in a rubbish mood again today, although a confusing one. And it seems all my squeezing of ze muffin does nothing at all, and now even my tics are an issue. Everything is just very frustrating today ><

marzi nice to hear your husband have got the nesting bug! Still waiting patiently here!

I really, really want swiss roll cake. May have to make one tomorrow.

winterflowers Thu 02-Jan-14 23:19:29

Gah eeyore mums can be so thoughtless sometimes, mine's special but even she hasn't ever come out with such a gem.

Sorry to hear about your trek littleen I vote definitely make cake tomorrow to make up for it!

DawnOfTheDee Thu 02-Jan-14 23:47:14

Mmmm I've seen fudge recipes with condensed milk but haven't tried them. Will give yours a go v soon marzipanned.

Sorry about your mum's thoughtless comments eeyore. Some people really need to engage their brain before speaking...or better yet just keep their traps shut.

I am not feeling sleepy at all right now.....hopefully soon though....just one good(ish) night's sleep would be heaven right now...!

CubanoHabana Thu 02-Jan-14 23:48:23

I've been in so much pain today - not sure whether baby is hoofing me in same place very hard constantly, or if it's Braxton hicks but ow!

CubanoHabana Thu 02-Jan-14 23:50:17

Also, grr at eeyores mum - it took us 6 months ttc and that was difficult enough!

Mmm at marzi recipe!

LemonDrizzleCake11 Fri 03-Jan-14 03:06:30

Anothermmm at Marzis recipe... although am almost glad I don't have all the ingredients else I'd be up at 3am (now) trying it out, which is probably a bit unseemly....

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 03-Jan-14 03:20:54

I know I'm super vain but please humour me.... Is anyone else hoping for a full on makeover before birth?!

I'm planning highlights, brows, lash extensions (so I don't need to consider make up for atleast a month), pedicure, AND fouff wax.

Two questions- 1. Can I pay someone enough money in the world to wax a beached whale and are brazillians allowed? 2. Would love a fake tan too, even at this late stage is it a bad idea?

Yes, will change my name to Essexmummy2b post treatments.

Yes, I'm awake at 3am AGAIN and should probs forget the above and spend the money on eye bag surgery.

sunflowered Fri 03-Jan-14 03:47:41

Mmmm fudge..... If I wasn't still at the pils I might be making some right now.

Hope your mum holds off on any more helpful comnents eeyore. If ttc was as easy as 'just relaxing' then it would be yoga teachers not fertility clinics making the difference hmm

Hi kungfu, welcome to our clockwatching.

laura I've had to stop thinking about the next 18 yrs, it was making me too anxious. Each week survived without an a&e visit or minor meltdown is going to be a success in our house - baby has accident prone genes on both sides of the family.

Hope 2014's getting off to a good start for everyone in spite of the pelvic pain, back pain, insomnia, heartburn, sobriety, helpful families, ongoing sickness, exhaustion, cramps, etc Am currently bonding with wriggly bump and trying to avoid dh's stale breath. Some sleep would be nice too.

sunflowered Fri 03-Jan-14 03:56:46

shropshire I don't think that's unreasonable. If looking good helps you feel relaxed and feeling relaxed helps squeeze the baby out, it'll be almost like having a secret pain relief weapon.

Was given some lovely new nail polish for xmas by a relative who lives abroad where feet-in-stirrups is standard practice for giving birth. Apparently all her girlfriends say pedicures and foof wax are just a normal part of birth prep...

Thingymajigs Fri 03-Jan-14 04:26:13

shrops, I'd go for it if it would make you feel happier. Take any luxuries you can while pregnant. I was planning on getting my hair cut but that is about it tbh. No one cares what I look like and there's no pressure to look good but this tends to make me lazy though.
What I might do is have a post birth pamper session in an effort to reclaim my body a bit but I reckon diet and exercise might be the main contributor there. I'm never bothered by the state of my nails or lashes but the fact that my arse is currently half my body mass is very disconcerting.
Oh, I think baby may have dropped because I can breathe a lot better but my waddle is ridiculous. I can find out at the MW's on Tuesday.

SugarMiceInTheRain Fri 03-Jan-14 07:02:56

Haha Shrops. I have insomnia and look dreadful now. Took ages to get off to sleep and have been awake since 4.45am hmm I had highlights done in early December. Not due til 21st, so ELCS probably about a week before that. I'm planning on getting eyebrows threaded and dyed, a low maintenance haircut and colour (probably will get rid of the highlights and go darker for a bit so I don't have to worry about the roots!) and also at the least a bikini-line wax. Not letting them dry-shave me with a bic just before they slice me open. I'll have enough post-birth bodily problems without adding razor burn to my list of woes! Will do my nails with clear varnish as it does make me feel more 'done' though I rarely bother with my nails as I keep them short for work (piano teacher).

Can't believe in exactly 6 weeks I could be having my section, though hoping to postpone it til the Monday - don't want a Valentine's baby! Soooo much to get through before then - DS2's birthday, joint party at a huge soft play centre for DS1 & 2 (DS1's birthday is early March so I'll be in no fit state to organise anything then!), a few more weeks of work, make curtains for baby's room (and matching cushion if I have enough leftover fabric!) The last ones I'm hoping to do this week - my DM gave me a sewing machine for Christmas, and whilst I'm no seamstress, I managed to make 5m of bunting for the room yesterday, so have bought fabric to make matching curtains and cushion(s).

I'm hoping to avoid any trips to A&E, though DS1 (7) who has Aspergers and is not well coordinated at all, bless him, received a skateboard from Santa - watching him try to use it is a little bit like watching a car crash unfold. I shall consider it a miracle if we don't have at least one skateboard-related hospital visit.

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 03-Jan-14 07:16:27

A girl after my own heart sugar! I've made the bunting, curtains and made a mobile with my sewing machine, it's so rewarding. Plus you wouldn't see someone from TOWIE doing that which makes me feel better. Are you in the Facebook group (sorry if so, I'm crap at remembering who's who)? I want to see your handy work.

Still unsure about the spray tan. For every google result that says go for it, there's one that says don't!

Must remember to take some cocktail sticks to work today to keep my eyes open.

SugarMiceInTheRain Fri 03-Jan-14 07:27:35

I'm not on the FB group - somehow I missed all that... How do I join?

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 03-Jan-14 07:41:08

You need to private message someone like Dawn or Katamari who are on the group (and have their username in blue, I don't understand why some names are clickable on and some not) and give them the email address you use for fb x

Timpani Fri 03-Jan-14 07:57:42

eeyore that's terrible sad

We had problems with DS1. Had to have IVF and thankfully it worked. Now with this LO, who took us by surprise, I've been very aware how lucky we are and also waiting for someone to say "see, you didn't need all that treatment, you could have just carried on trying". Thankfully no one has said anything like that yet. But tbh I feel like a fraud anyway which is bloody ridiculous. I've had all the comments over the years, including people saying (no-one here!!) "oh it took us such a long time too, we really thought it would never happen, I know just how you feel" (tried for 6-8 months), and "it took me a year" when really it was a few months as they weren't trying for most of that year. It really does belittle how awful it feels (especially when you've had a diagnosis). I always thought I'd be one of the lucky quick ones and was very very shocked when I wasn't!

Getting a bit impatient now.

What's a bundler? Think I missed that! Ooo and we have a heated airer. You will never regret it. You will do endless washing and it's a right fiddly faff as tiny baby stuff is sooo small to hang up!

LittlePandaBear Fri 03-Jan-14 08:22:00

Morning all. I actually had proper sleep last night! DD didn't wake me once - I think I slept from about 10.30pm to 6.45am with just one toilet break in between - amazing. I still feel like I could sleep for another 5 hours but really can't complain as it's the best sleep I've had in weeks.

Shrops - go for your pampering! It will be more difficult for all of that once baby is here - depends if you have someone to leave baby with while you have treatments as if you're exclusively breastfeeding you're pretty much tied to your baby making you-time more difficult.

I'm just going to have my hair cut and I think I'm also going to get rid of the highlights and go all over darker as it's easier to maintain without roots etc. Last time I had quite a bit of hair loss after DD was born - no bald patches or anything but it wasn't very pleasant as my hair is quite thin anyway, so it should keep in better condition without any bleach. The symptoms don't stop after pregnancy, there's always something else!

I also have some beauty salon vouchers from Xmas so think I'll have another mum-to-be massage - I had one at about 5 months and think I need it more now! Thought about a facial but I could do that myself if I bothered, I can't do the massage and DH is really not skilled in that area!

I've never had a bikini wax [wimp emoticon] so don't think now's the time to start - just use removal creams or razors. Will have to get a mirror out though as have lost track of it's state hmm

notoneforselfies Fri 03-Jan-14 08:39:39

Go for it shrops - now's the time... I only have my highlights done once a year because I'm a tightarse and I get him to put them but leave a very thin layer of hair on top untouched - looks more natural/blends more and you don't get a big stripe at the parting as they grown out! Got my last wax at 37 weeks. Full Hollywood here! I have a massive pube aversion, mainly for hygiene (which I know is nonsensical) and even more so when I can't see it! It's a beyond undignified process though. I used to adore my lash extensions too as I very rarely wear makeup and they made the biggest difference to my appearance, but I had to give them up as I'm too big now to lie on my back unmoving for an hour and a half... Plus the glue fumes were starting to bother me. She had a 'sensitive' glue but apparently the lashes would last half the time with that on. (They lasted 5 weeks with ordinary glue)

Artisticme Fri 03-Jan-14 08:58:16

shrops haha that made me laugh!! Go for your pampering!! I'm also tempted but again don't know how I'll cope lying on my back for such a long period of time for lashes. May get the weekend ones and hope theyast for over my due date:/ And might just put some tan on myself rather than subjecting some poor soul to my huge pregnant belly! Was also tempted to get extensions as my hairs fairly short just now and we do some fairly low maintenance ones at my work but still debating this.

little my hair also fell out loads when I had DD. Iv started using a shampoo range called nioxin. It was created by a lady in America for hormonal hair loss following pregnancy but has kind of taken off for men in the uk. If you've got fine coloured hair it will be number 4 you need. Also there's a product by kerastase called initialise that's good for keeping all your hair thick and strong as it growssmile

So my last 3 days have consisted of lounging on my mums sofa and today I shall be stuck in a car for approximately 4 hours on the round trip to pick up OH from the airport (havnt seen him since 19th of dec so can't waitsmile ). So basically for the first 3 days of maternity leave I already feel like Iv done far too much sitting around and am so boredsad operation decorate the nursery and pack hospital bag may take place this weeksmile

Poppy954 Fri 03-Jan-14 09:02:29

My insomnia is at the start if the night. Didn't get to sleep til 2.
Shrops definitely get what you want done. ESP as you love being pregnant you will hate the saggy after feeling and there are all the other after effects that no-one tells you about like hair loss, after pains etc and it helps to feel at least a little bit more attractive than you would with no extra help. I'll at least get my hair, eyebrows and nails done as close to EDD as I can.

gnittinggnome Fri 03-Jan-14 09:06:45

shrops go for it! Speaking as a girl from Essex (but not quite an Essex girl) if you look like "you" you'll feel better when baby comes along and your world is turned upside down. I have no idea of the logisitics of waxing with a large bump - my skin has become so sensitive I haven't had a wax or dyed my hair since around 6 weeks (!) so am rocking a decidedly earth mother look. Otoh, this is the first time in years I haven't had dyed black/purple hair, and am plotting with my hairdresser to make this year the year of interesting hair. At least, he is, I'm just sat there gazing in awe at his Greek beauty. And being startled by how much silver there is in my hair shock

Dsis bought me vouchers for a beauty salon for a post-birth full-body massage, bless her heart, so I'm looking forward to that mid-February. Part of me is a bit concerned about the cave-woman pubes, but part of me thinks that if anyone in that maternity ward cares about how I wear my pubic hair they're in the wrong line of work. I'm too scared to take my regular painkillers (which should be fine - Panadol, so paracetamol and an acceptable level of caffeine) which is silly, and can't fathom the thought of doing it without... Plus getting to 37 weeks on Sunday - would this be a problem? So many questions, it's easier just not. Maybe. Argh!

DawnOfTheDee Fri 03-Jan-14 09:28:26

See, I have low level envy of people who always look nice like Shrops but i've come to realise it's because they go and do something about it, whereas I slob about vaguely wishing that various bits of hair on my body would just drop out, the hair on my head would brush itself and my skin would start glowing despite only being exposed to weak british sunlight for approx 7 mins a day.

Must try harder....

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 09:30:32

shrops go for the pampering! I wish I could afford to. Dropped massive hints at DH in lead up to xmas that I really would love a pedicure and some pampering but he ignored me. Did get a lovely watch though so can't complain too much. I may stretch to a hair cut and colour when I'm off on ML but again depends on finances. I'm trying to keep on top of fanjo area by using my wilkinson sword bikini trimmer which has a guard over the mini clipper/blade bit so can use pretty freely without too much risk of accidents..

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 09:39:31

Go for it shrops! I'm hoping to get a hair cut, facial and leg and Brazilian before baby arrives (just need my leg hairs to grow - I seem to have gone less beastly in pregnancy which is a shocker). Will get eye brows threaded too and I want lash extensions but like other ladies worry about lying on my back for that long and also don't know when to get them done as I don't want to end up with then for weeks before baby arrives and then have scary spider lashes at the birth lol. Ooooh it's probably a bad idea but my roots need bleaching and when I do them I like to do rainbow hair as well as it's the only time colours like orange and yellow take so I want to do that too smile I know I won't be bothered for so long after baby arrives so want one last colorful hair do (before I just resort to fading pink lol). Need to go and stock up on rainbow colours soon grin! Fake tan wise - I can't see it being much of a problem shrops - especially not so late on in pregnancy. My waxer says it's fine to get a wax too - they just sometimes struggle with backs of legs as you can't lie on your tummy. I must get all this stuff booked in!

Yaaaaay cotbed mattress is here and has joined the pile of homeless boxes in the lounge. God knows where the birth pool is gonna go when it arrives later. I didn't get to room of doom yesterday after my unsuccessful library trek so think I'll go tackle some of that now. I want to go to ikea and buy some wall shelves so I can shift stuff from babies room to down stairs but DH has forbidden it - which is probably for the best. Although it's ikea - i could have a nice nap half way round surely!

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 03-Jan-14 10:00:25

Totes misskat, the beds in Ikea aren't just for looking at. Either that or take a lilo to the ball pit.

Good, glad you're all pro me and my pampering. Although very sad that I've just shattered the illusion that all the girls in the Facebook group have if me waking up and looking like that.

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 10:21:32

sugarmice - if you pm me your email I can add you to the fb group. If you're on the phone app there's a pm button in the "more" bit from the home page smile

marzipanned Fri 03-Jan-14 10:37:34

Haha Dawn I know EXACTLY what you mean! Have been meaning to epilate my legs for about a month now.

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 10:46:13

misskat exciting that you have your mattress! What did you go for in the end? I still need to get on and order my bespoke sized one for my ancient cot but still bamboozled by all the different filling/covering options!

Champagnebubble Fri 03-Jan-14 11:04:11

I second/third/fourth everyone else saying go for the pampering Shrops. I'm not bothering to do anything special personally, I will save that for after if I feel the need. Had a haircut before Christmas and I'm not one for highlights/fake tan/false eyelashes anyway.

Feeling so sick sad. Sick of feeling sick. I'm not sleeping either which doesn't help, I'm a grumpy arse anyway when I'm tired. I am willing the last 3-8 weeks to go quickly now, ready or not!

Kungfubaby Fri 03-Jan-14 11:04:24

Morning all,
Thanks for the lovely welcome!
Another one with insomnia here sad. Usually get off to sleep ok but wake up in the wee hours unable to get comfy. Last night I couldn't even get to sleep in the first place & didn't get more than about an hour at a time, grrrr angry. I am zombie-lady today.

I think we all deserve a bit of pampering! I don't usually pay much attention to my appearance and am too much of a wuss for waxing! I do desperately need a haircut though, so that will be my mat leave treat, and I have a spa voucher to use so will get that booked in.

NCT was ok last night. Was all about stages of labour, how to cope, when to call hospital etc etc. All stuff I kind of know already, through lurking on here mainly! Thing is, our group leader talks waaaay too much and everyone ends up switching off! It's too much sitting (on really uncomfortable chairs!) and listening to her and not enough participation. Not had much opportunity to just chat and get to know each other yet either - that will come I suppose.

So today is hospital bag day. I think I'll relax more and sleep better if I know it's packed. Must. Get. Moving. Also going to give Maggie Howell hypnotherapy CDs a try today.

CubanoHabana Fri 03-Jan-14 11:12:30

Have plans to get waxed foof and eyebrows when I go on mat leave - although don't know whether to get it done at beginning - 36 / 37 weeks or try and go as late as possible. I'm also going to get hair dyed and cut at school the day before I go on mat leave... It's brill £6 for a professional hair dresser to dye and cut hair, kids (6th formers) take dye off, wash and dry hair.

Question about lash extensions - how do they do it, do they do whole lash or individuals, roughly how much and how long do they last? I vaguely remember having 3 or 4 individuals put on per eye when I got married but that's all I can remember!

CubanoHabana Fri 03-Jan-14 11:14:50

Also, I know I am getting £50 from work as a present when I go on mat leave, and plan on spending it purely on ME! Whether this will be added extras at spa or for new clothes for after birth but determined it is not going on baby - feel a bit guilty but by then absolutely everything I can think of will have been bought for baby and I want a treat!

Julietee Fri 03-Jan-14 11:25:21

Misskat Yeah, when I had eyelash extensions for my wedding it took aaages lying flat on my back.

Marzi I used to epilate religiously - haven't done it since BFP! Not looking forward to re-acclimatising myself to that pain again. The backs of my thighs are like a special hair lawn. I call epilating 'mowing'.

notoneforselfies Fri 03-Jan-14 11:46:15

Cubano - re lashes: mine were individually glued (so single lashes glued to your own single lashes) one at a time along your upper lash line.

So you lie there with your eyes closed, they use a pad to keep your lower lashes out of the way and get to work very methodically with tweezers. The glue is permanent so when your lashes reach the end of their life and fall out, the extension goes with it. So they generally get sparser and sparser and you get top ups. I used to get them infilled once a month to keep them looking good.

They made such a difference to my appearance. Looked so natural but just made me look like I woke up with immaculately applied mascara every day and made my eyes look twice the size! Can't wait to go back to them but it'll be a while before I can guarantee 2 hours away from my baby. I guess when I stop breastfeeding...

Mine cost me £50 for initial set an £35 for infills. She'd come round my house with a massage couch to do them. In London expect to pay at least double that for good (ie not Katie price looking) ones though...

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 11:57:34

Jazz - I went for this one for the cotbed - half price at babies r us and has pretty good reviews. For my co-sleeper I'm getting one made by babymattressesonline.co.uk/ and am going for a 4cm deep foam one with the coolmax cover (I think!). I've ordered a spare cover in corovin and some fitted sheets as well as I briefly thought about making some and then promptly rejected that idea!

Cubano - that's awesome about the bargain haircut! Eyelash extensions are awesome - I've had them a couple of times and like notone says its great waking up with lovely lashes. It does take ages though (I often have a nap whilst she's doing them lol). Definitely spend your cash on treating yourself! Don't feel guilty - you've been growing a baby for the last 8 months - you deserve a treat!

I've got an epilator too Julie but haven't used it for aaaages. If my wax doesn't happen maybe i can get DH to do it for me whilst im having contractions - surely i wouldn't feel it and could be nice and smooth post birth lol!

Champagnebubble Fri 03-Jan-14 12:30:37

Haha, misskat, I've got visions of your DH epilating you just as you go into labour and it actually distracting you from any contractions! Ouchy! I'm way too much of a wimp for wax and epilating!! Having said that, I've got sensitive skin and come out in red rashes and irritations as a result of things like that so maybe that's the source of my wimpiness! Once I tried a new face cream...big mistake as I was popping the antihistamenes for days after hmm so I stick to what I know. Mach3 razor...every day.

Littleen Fri 03-Jan-14 12:40:54

All the makeover and pampering plans sound awesome! Now that it's been mentioned, I've decided to get my hair cut and (home)dyed right before due date, find somewhere that can do my eyebrows, paint my nails and do the usual shave ritual. I've been very lucky - hair grows at half the normal speed since being pregnant, so I only need to shave every other week O.o ! I mean, it's been nearly a week now, and my legs are at the stage they would normally be after 1,5 days. It's great, since it's quite a hassle at the moment, what with stomach in the way. Like others, I'm far too much of a wuss to try a wax, but quite happy using hair removal cream instead on the muffin area.

Just about to create a spreadsheet listing everything that needs to be done. I have no storage in the flat apart from a chest of drawers, and the kitchen units of course. Also need to sand down and repaint the cot bed, get mattress and all other bedding stuff. Got to get started on the hospital bag too, and look at my hypnobirthing book/cd. And fix curtains for babys room. And find some lamps. Huff - been here nearly a month and still not finished unpacking! Such a slacker smile

marzipanned Fri 03-Jan-14 12:45:29

misskat I just tried to order co-sleeper sheets from that Irish website and they wanted to charge 30 euros for shipping! I've heard of people using two king size pillowcases velcroed together instead so might do a bit of investigating into that. It's just the principle of paying as much for the shipping as for the sheets themselves...

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 12:58:33

Lol champagne - it would be a novel way of distracting oneself from labour pain!

Don't worry Littleen - unpacking is a right chore. We've still got boxes in the basement from when we moved 5 years ago (and didn't unpack when we moved into our last house).

Marzi that's crazy for shipping!!! Babymattressonline do custom fitted sheets for about a fiver each so might be worth a look if the pillowcases don't pan out x

Champagnebubble Fri 03-Jan-14 13:02:14

Do you have any local people who do dressmaking/alterations/curtains or the like/have you googled your local area/yell.com? There may be some independent places or even someone who does alterations/dress making that might be interested if you can't be bothered with the hassle? It can't take them long if they have the skill and equipment....?

Champagnebubble Fri 03-Jan-14 13:02:48

Haha, that was meant to say Marzi.....

Champagnebubble Fri 03-Jan-14 13:03:35

You never know misskat, it might work and the craze might take off......kill two birds with one stone and all that......hehe!

marzipanned Fri 03-Jan-14 13:08:46

That's a good call Champs and thanks for the babymattressonline tip misskat. I think I need to order a mattress for the cot we have anyway as the one that was in there (that I was just going to leave in, not to be used, but just so it didn't look weird) doesn't smell very nice.

Argh, still so much to buy! Yikes! I keep thinking I'm practically done and then reality hits me on the head smile

LovesToBake Fri 03-Jan-14 13:35:24

Loving all of the pampering/pre-baby makeover chat. I'm planning a hair cut and will try my hardest to tidy up down below with my usual tube of Veet in the coming weeks. I used to use waxing strips many moons ago but have never had a professional wax and don't think the final trimester is probably a good time to start. I guess I'm quite low maintenance - don't colour my hair, do anything professional to eyebrows, lashes or foof so I'm hoping that squeezing in a hair cut on one of DS' nursery days between now and EDD will feel like my treat.

Damn - was about to write more but DS just woken up from his nap. Will try again later!

CubanoHabana Fri 03-Jan-14 13:48:50

Thanks notone, think I will looks into it - just need to find somewhere, as usual beautician has left and took all the staff with her and don't know where she has gone to!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Fri 03-Jan-14 14:25:31

I'm not planning any treatments or haircuts or anything grin I think I did last time round but DS keeps me so busy and when I'm not running round after him I'm relaxing.

I do have a £50 spa voucher which I will use when she's about 8 weeks old (because if she's like DS I won't be able to leave her for more than 2 hours without boobs exploding!!) for a lovely post birth massage.

One of my best friends is a beauty therapist and she has refused to do lash extensions on me because if the lying flat for hours aspect.....

Unplastered Fri 03-Jan-14 14:34:18

All this talk of waxing, etc, is making me feel like I actually should make an effort!
Not planning even a haircut before the birth. Have never fake tanned or fake eyelashed or fake nailed and I don't intend to start now! My hair gets a 2:1 shampoo and a hairbrush... My make up routine involves concealer and mascara only. All praise to those who can be bothered, and go for it if it will make you feel good - it's all too much effort for me!

sunflowered Fri 03-Jan-14 14:51:19

I'd been hoping to get a really nice haircut but my slow growing preggo hair means it's not really worth the money at the moment. Will def be booking a good wax for mat leave as the thought of someone potentially rushing it all off with a blunt razor in case of emergency just leaves me feeling a bit itchy down below. It's certainly not for the midwives' sake though - am sure they've seen all sorts blush

Just had a look on the mothercare website and they seem to have sold out of everything I tried to put in my shopping basket sad Currently have 1 pack of sleepsuits, a cardigan, a couple of novelty babygros/vests, and 1 cot sheet so need to do a little shopping before it makes its appearance.

Out of interest, are special nursing vests/bf tops worth investing in?

Leaning on bump to type this message on phone and am getting sleepy little shoves on both sides of the bump - making it clear who's in charge now.

camwombat Fri 03-Jan-14 15:17:27

sunflowered i would say that the breast feeding tops are worth investing in. I had a few tops and some bras for sleeping in (look a little like crop tops). It just made life a lot easier when trying to feed especially when out as I didnt have to hoik my top up. You have just reminded me to go and look online and order some new ones...

eyoreish that is shocking behaviour, especially knowing issues you have had. I had similar with my mother, who despite knowing I had been told "no children" ds was a massive shock and medical miracle was on about more grandchildren soon after he was born. Infuriating.

I think I will run to a haircut before Feb, but thats probably it. Im a bit worried about the concept of a massage, just in case I cant get up again afterwards! wink

camwombat Fri 03-Jan-14 15:22:13

Sorry Eeyoreish, god my spelling has gone out the window today!

sunflowered Fri 03-Jan-14 15:38:00

Thanks camwombat, will see what I can pick up in the sales. Might have to start using one overnight sooner rather than later due to leakage issues blush

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 03-Jan-14 16:42:19

Should I be worried that I'm not leaking???

gnittinggnome Fri 03-Jan-14 17:36:47

champagne I was talking about one of Juju Sundin's pain distraction techniques to a friend of mine, eg stamping your feet to use the large muscles in your legs, and she suggested that as the largest muscle in your body is the glutes, having DH spank me through contractions would be a good distraction... I'm not sure she was being very serious though wink

gnittinggnome Fri 03-Jan-14 17:37:47

shrops am also resolutely not leaking, not getting any colostrum, boobs not even sore any more! Am hoping the hormonal surge of giving birth will kick start it all, if nothing happens in the meantime.

shrops don't worry about lack of leaking, and enjoy all the pampering you can.

i booked a cut and colour for the day after my due date with ds... and missed it because he turned up on time! I wanted lovely hair for all the photos sad I did then arrange for a home hairdresser so i could feed ds and have my hair done at the same time. not a relaxing experience but essential!

bf tops - i found it easier to have cheapy stretchy vest tops and then pull my normal top up and vest top down to create a "peep hole" which was v discreet for feeding in public (thanks MN!). My boobs/nipples just didn't line up with bf specific tops!

Poppy954 Fri 03-Jan-14 17:55:38

shrops I have never leaked pre birth but I've checked and I do have colostrum there now. The proper milk supply comes in on about day 3 post giving birth triggered by a massive change in hormones. This is the day you will cry at anything and everything.

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 18:49:42

Remember ladies - placenta smoothie is supposed to be great for beating the baby blues wink

I don't leak much shrops - it's only a tiny bit of colostrum sometimes when I'm asleep. I wouldn't worry about not doing it as I don't think it's something everyone does prior to birth.

DawnOfTheDee Fri 03-Jan-14 19:45:04

I assume placenta smoothie is great for beating baby blues as it replaces them with the "urgh i've just downed a minging placenta smoothie" blues. Distraction technique, innit? wink

I'm not leaking either. Well...not from my boobs anyhoo.... blush

Julietee Fri 03-Jan-14 20:09:31

Gnitting I could go for that... :D

I had a mixed day.

Bad bit - I walked too fast up a hill (Again) and then everything felt bad and wrong and I was knackered for the rest of the day.

Good bit - Went on pram recon with my mum and have narrowed it down to the Uppababy Vista or the Bugaboo Cameleon 3.

I have a consistently sore spot at the bottom left of my bump.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Fri 03-Jan-14 20:35:37

No leaking here and I had very little leakage with DS and went on to have oversupply so don't worry!!

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 20:42:28

julietee I have an uppababy vista! Am first time mummy so no idea if it actually is good at doing its job but so far I'm impressed with its looks and that it fits in the boot of my Golf comfortably <shallow>

No leakage from me and nothing when squeezing boob or nipple. At my breast feeding info class the instructor said that every woman is different pre birth so not to panic that nothing has happened yet.

Thanks for the info on mattresses misskat, I will be using that online place too and will be ordering ours over the weekend.

Not sure I'm with you on the placenta smoothie though!

EeyoreIsh Fri 03-Jan-14 20:55:42

I've got the uppababy vista too. I hope it's as good as I've heard, it cost a fortune.

shrops the only time I had a little leakage was after cuddling my new nephew.

I've been freaking myself out by hearing how pregnancy after a miscarriage is higher risk. Apparently more chance of induction, pre eclampsia, etc. Why did I goggle!

FizzlingFireboxes Fri 03-Jan-14 20:56:36

Hello all, I've been to the midwife today and she is concerned about the amount of sugar I'm putting out sad
I had a GTT at 26 weeks which came back clear, well within the limits. I've had this with all my pregnancies, this is DC4.
She is insisting I have another urgent GTT, I'm 36 weeks and don't really see the point now, I'm on a low sugar diet anyway, have no symptoms, a bit overweight maybe but that's not a new thing ;)
I asked what risks there might be and she said the baby might get too big for me to push out :/
My others were 9lb 1oz at 42 weeks, 8lb 6oz at 41+3 and 8lb 9oz at 41 weeks so hardly massive.
Can I refuse? I actually said no twice but she was insistent, it means going to a surgery 8 miles away, my car is off the road, next week is manic with the other 3 going back to school etc. and I really don't want it done as I don't see the point!

Also, I had a private well being scan yesterday and baby was bang on the centre of growth chart and estimated at 6lb 4oz.

LovesToBake Fri 03-Jan-14 21:03:29

Same as lastnight - no leakage here, not even any soreness or tenderness of the boob and was exactly the same with DS and my problem was also oversupply. I woke up on day 3 with the boobs of a page 3 girl which was quite a surprise (and bloody tight, hot and uncomfortable).

So I did my first wash that involved baby stuff today, feel like I am making a tiny start. It was only a pack of new muslins, a couple of hooded baby towels that were DS' and some new Moses basket sheets but I did rather enjoy lovingly folding them up afterwards. Have yet to unpack my vacuum packed storage bags of sleepsuits/vests and other baby clothes from DS. Not even sure I need to wash them as they were all washed before being packed away not that long ago but I suspect I won't be able to resist freshening them up.

Can't stop eating today. Polished off half a tub of stem ginger ice cream earlier and have just made a mincemeat, pear & almond tart to take over to a friend's tomorrow night and finding myself with some extra pastry, I made a very inelegant mincemeat pie thing which I just split with DH.

sunflowered Fri 03-Jan-14 21:49:15

I only have very small leaks, just enough to leave a little dirty mark on pjs/sheets - not every night and usually only on one side. (Just enough to notice and add to the already massive laundry pile, which is my main objection). Hope that's not a sign that I'll have one normal sized boob and one page 3...

Think I've upset dh by not going out for an after-dinner mocktail with him and his brother. the bar will be busy and crowded - I can't stand up for any length of time but more importantly, dinner was 3 courses and I can't physically fit any more food or drink! I don't think he's quite twigged that everything is getting so squashed now... Who needs lungs anyway hmm

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 22:10:21

Fizzing - you can refuse any treatment so don't have to have the GTT if you don't want. If the only risk is a big baby and you're confident in yesterday's scan then it seems reasonable not to have it - I don't have any actual experience of GTT
and GD though so can't really advise much. I guess you just have to go with what you're comfortable with.

Littleen Fri 03-Jan-14 22:10:37

Eeyeore I very much doubt the "increased risk" thing is anything to worry about, considering the large % of women having had atleast 1 mc before carrying a baby to full term!

Fizzling I find that odd from your MW! I was supposed to have another GTT but because I got so sick from the first one, it's hard to tell whether I'll be able to keep it down on second one, so she said it's up to me, and get a long term bloodsugar test instead, to see what it's been the last 3 months. Could you talk to her about that option instead perhaps?

Not had any boob leakage or bigger boobs at all so far. (Don't want bigger, quite enjoyed my page 3 boobs from before! haha) Had sore boobs first trimester, but nothing since! Hopefully none of our variations will matter, and they'll all be in fine working order smile

EeyoreIsh Fri 03-Jan-14 22:12:14

litleen I'm sure you're right. I shouldn't go finding things to worry about!

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 22:12:28

Lovesto - your tart sounds amazing!!! I want to eat it! Sunflowered - silly DH - and well done on managing three courses! It definitely sounds like time for a sit down after that!

What's everyone washing baby stuff in? Is just any non-bio okay?

misskatamari Fri 03-Jan-14 22:14:47

Eeyore - try not to worry yourself! Step away from doctor google! You and baby are doing great and I'm sure they'll arrive healthy and hopefully on time. Just get some dates down you wink

winterflowers Fri 03-Jan-14 22:17:14

Nothing at all going on with my boobs here. No growth no soreness no leakage. But I do now n own breast pads so bring it on.

May have a pedicure and a hair cut next month but I'm not a massive pamperer either. Quite fancy some luxurious baths tho - how have people got around the lying on the back issue?

EeyoreIsh Fri 03-Jan-14 22:17:56

It'll be date cake, I don't think I could stomach them on their own!

I've been using non-bio and a sensitive fabric conditioner. We use non bio anyway, so I'm guessing that's fine.

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 22:19:59

fizzling I am a reluctant GD preggo. The risks to baby as explained to me by the consultant (if you don't try to keep your GD under control) are: higher risk of still birth, shoulders growing too big and chunky and getting stick behind your pubic bone during delivery leading to massive amounts of intervention, higher risk of jaundice, higher risk of breathing difficulties and a sugar come down for baby after birth. All of these were worst case scenarios but if you are so far along anyway all it means if you're diagnosed with it is you have to have additional monitoring before during and after labour, as well as checking your sugar levels daily. I thought it was the end of the world but really it's just a bit of a faff. Can't hurt to have the test.

After a blissful 1st and 2nd trimester I'm hating the 3rd! To add to the GD, piles, constipation and inexplicable tiredness I've now developed huge nose bleeds. A quick google suggests these are normal at this stage due to increase in blood flow to bean but they are so annoying!

Have ordered cute baby stuff from H&M to make myself feel better.

Julietee Fri 03-Jan-14 22:35:31

Jazz I've just read juicing as a recommendation for constipation.

No bigger boobs or leakage for me either Littleen!

Eeyoreish I think we all face those risks, previous mc or not! Remember, a 'higher risk' could mean something as little as less than 1%. Even if something says double the risk, say, double the risk of a a very slim risk is still... well, very slim!

gnittinggnome Fri 03-Jan-14 22:58:44

fizzling another GD preggo here, and to add to jazzcat's list of possible problems I'd add the greater risk of pre-eclampsia for you. But how's your blood pressure? Are you getting it regularly monitored?

It does sound strange that despite other factors not being an issue she's still after a GTT for you, but agree above, it may not seem worthwhile at this stage but it can't do any harm can it? It might get her off your back! I've heard that sugars in your wee is just a natural pregnancy thing, so if that's what she's going from (plus your history?) it is likely to be a clear result. But she can't make you do anything you don't want to! Regardless of how stern she may be...

loves to your baking sounds amazing - mincemeat and pear! Can you post me some in March please? I've just completed 24 black velvet cupcakes with chocolate ganache and white chocolate stars/buttons for my FIL's birthday party tomorrow, to which I shall not be going. Too far to travel at this stage in the game, really don't want to be delivering miles away in Brighton! I've snuck half of one cupcake for taste-test purposes, and the flat smells amazing - no more non-GD baking for me, it's too hard!

jazzcat are you drinking lots of water? Juicing is good, but you lose a lot of the fibre from fruits through juicing alone, although a smoothie would be good as you'd get all the fruit in that. H&M is a great panacea though.

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 23:05:42

I have upped my water intake but probably not dr

jazzcat28 Fri 03-Jan-14 23:08:37

Drinking enough. Will try harder tomorrow! Had good readings after lean beef chilli and wholegrain rice for dinner this evening so will add that to list of safe meals.

Those cupcakes sound like heaven right now...

Littleen Fri 03-Jan-14 23:15:51

Questions for those who already have kids;

Does your other half do more around the house etc. since your children arrived? I'm worried!

Time for hobbies - is there usually some time for hobbies etc, even with a baby in the house?

I know these things vary greatly from family to family, but just in a general sense :P Freak-out incoming

KalevalaForMePlease Sat 04-Jan-14 03:02:08

Fizzling, another GD sufferer here. I agree with jazz and gnitting, it's no harm to get the test, a bit of a faff, but I have found, since being diagnosed, what a delicate balance my blood sugar is in. I have to be really careful to keep it in check, so not just low sugar diet, but low carb, reduced portions, eating every two hours, etc. Apparently it can really ramp up in the latter stages of pregnancy as well, so even though I'm keeping it at bay at the minute, it could all change next week.

KalevalaForMePlease Sat 04-Jan-14 03:08:59

Littleen, DP and I have become more of a team since DD was born, I would say. I do more house stuff, as I'm the one at home, but he really pulls his weight at weekends. He loves spending time with her, and I've always encouraged that right from the start; heading off on Saturdays or Sundays to the shops or get my hair cut and leaving them to it. Pre pregnancy, I was off to the gym a few times a week, and out at weekends to the cinema and stuff like that. He also still has time for his hobbies as well. I'm lucky though, his hobbies involve sitting around with his friends playing a card game (think Big Bang Theory), which he can do here in the evenings. What exactly are you stressing about?

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 04-Jan-14 06:43:04

Littleen - yes dh really stepped up when I was first pregnant with DS, and then again after he was born. He works full time and I part time (together in our own business) and we probably share the housework equally with him doing all the hoovering and heavier stuff and me doing most cooking and kitchen stuff, and laundry.

When we are home together we share childcare 50/50 but obviously I'm at work less so I do more.

Hobbies etc took a back seat during 1st year which was v tough as DS barely slept and I had pnd. DH had time in the evenings but was often knackered, I just gave myself over to DS to be honest. After 1st year we both got more free time and now he's 3 we have plenty (although that's obviously about to all change!) grin

DawnOfTheDee Sat 04-Jan-14 07:06:21

After DD was born via emcs DH did everything except feed her as i was in too decrepit a state to do anything.....he was fab and they've got a really great bond now ie total daddy's girl

Housework wise I think we both do more than we used to because otherwise it's really hard to operate with a lo. Before we were both a bit slack but with a baby it's really important to keep on top of stuff like the washing up, clothes washing, hoovering, etc.

Hobbies wise things did take a bit of a back seat for the first year or so but we still made time to get out both individually and as a couple.

Thingymajigs Sat 04-Jan-14 07:29:13

My situation is a little different as my DP joined our family a few years ago. In my previous marriage I ended up doing pretty much everything baby related and didn't focus on the relationship or my own interests. This time I'm planning on letting go of some of the control, if I can bear it, to let DP really come into his own as a parent. He's already a fantastic father figure to my two and since my eldest is a teen with ASD he's been thrown right in the deep end so a baby should be easy in comparison.
I'm also going to ask that we do stuff together as a couple once a month and make sure I get to do my hobbies so I don't become a baby bore like last time.
Are you worried about anything in particular littleen? I started to get the 'oh crap, what have I done?' feeling a week ago and this baby took a year to conceive. Last minute nerves are very common.

It took me and dh a good 6-9 months to get the balance right after ds was born, and I probably still do more now, but then I work 2 days a week and he does 5.

DH missed the birth and didn't have paternity leave so he never really had the chance to get stuck in with ds in the early days. He started a new job 2 days before ds was born. My brother came to live/stay with us for the summer and he and dh would bugger off and play golf most evenings after work so I would be on my own with ds morning through to evening. My LITTLE brother was more considerate than dh tbh - did more housework, cooking, taking ds off my hands for a bit. TBH I think I made it all look a bit too easy for dh and for him life didn't really change (he just saw me going out for coffee with friends nearly every day!). Things got better when ds started waking at 5am each day! After a couple of months of that I broke down a bit and we instigated some new rules - we take it in turns each morning to get up with ds and take it in turns to put him to bed at night. The other person is then responsible for tidying up/washing up. I then started a new part time job when ds was 1 years old and dh looked after him for a couple of months and he got a much bigger appreciation of how much work was involved. Dh still needs a kick up the bum every now and again but he has been much better during this pg and looking after us all better.

I had loads of time for crafting in the first year after ds was born and when he was 18 months I joined a gym with a creche (could have sent him much younger). By the time he was 4 months old I had my evenings back (he went to bed 7-7 with one wake up between 12-2am) so I could have done anything in the evenings.

Trying to get anything done with a toddler is an entirely different matter....grin

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 04-Jan-14 08:42:03

Dawn you sound v similar to us. Prior to DS we didn't really keep on top of the house much, but once you have a baby you find yourself in total chaos if you don't keep on top of basic things like laundry and a clean kitchen!! wink

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 10:33:34

Yeah, I just had a 'Stop the ride, I want to get off!' moment last night.

FizzlingFireboxes Sat 04-Jan-14 10:53:22

Thanks for your replies about the GTT, I've decided to go along with what she says, I've googled GDD risks etc. and now worried myself silly sad I must admit I don't really have a clue about a diabetic diet, I've just been keeping sugar to a minimum and hoping for the best confused

Thisisfreakingmeout Sat 04-Jan-14 11:01:15

I'm another Uppababy lady. DH was obsessed with the silver with black body so we have ordered to collect today. We got our car seat on Thursday and learnt how to attach it. It seems to be happening!

Ps no leaking here either. I assume that my body will figure this out in due course.

Champagnebubble Sat 04-Jan-14 11:04:37

Gnitting - oh my, can you imagine the midwives witnessing that?! Hehehehe!

Shrops - no leaking here either. Not even colostrum there.

Jazz - I find dates help with the regularity thing....!

Eeyore - I am sure google was designed to freak us out, there should be some sort of pregnancy filter. Whatever you google, unless it's on the NHS website - take with a pinch of salt, and even then, it doesn't mean that it will happen to you. I say this as someone who has freaked herself out numerous times reading stuff on google! Everytime I vow not to do it again! which is why I ask you lot as you give me a sane level headed view!

After my many weeks of trying to decide on buggy we've gone for the Babystyle Oyster. I loved the iCandy - but just couldn't justify the cost, especially when the Oyster actually does more.....so head went over heart in the end! It was half the price!!!! Totally crazy how much some of these buggies cost. We justified it that by the time the LO is old enough we could buy a more lightweight pushchair like the Maclaran pushchair or something too and I'd feel less obliged to use the travel system which I would if I bought the obscenely expensive iCandy....that's just us though!

Hope all of you have good Saturday's....hope it isn't too rainy and blustery where you are - the weather is grim at least it's not snowing though! I feel for all the people who have been badly hit with the storms - I saw it on the news last night and it looks awful. Have a good day all!

CubanoHabana Sat 04-Jan-14 11:46:32

About to get ready to go to NHS antenatal class, on birth and labour. The last one I did was useless - all about shaken babies, domestic violence and SIDS - it was supposed to be about looking after a baby...

Will have to see what this one is like, although I'm glad that I have done private classes!

Kungfubaby Sat 04-Jan-14 12:23:02

We were set on the Uppababy, but couldn't justify the cost, so have gone for the Graco Evo as it fits in the boot of my little Yaris! It's also really lightweight and folds down like a dream. Just waiting for delivery so we can have a play...

Hope the NHS class is good cubano. Our's was brill, led by a fab midwife. Think we got more out of that day than from NCT so far.

Yuk! This weather is really depressing me - so much for long walks every day while on mat leave angry
Off to choose carpet for the nursery, which lifts the depression slightly smile

Champagnebubble Sat 04-Jan-14 12:29:21

Hope the class is good Cubano. I have to say the one NHS class and tour we went to was pretty good and I was pleasantly surprised - there wasn't an emphasis on making contacts like I understand the NCT ones do, but as for content the midwife was really good - she covered all sorts like breastfeeding, hospital policies, taking care of a newborn etc - she even got some dolls out and asked us to pretend they were newborns and helped perfect holding technique, BF technique etc and led it in a really informal way. I think like everything it depends on the person leading the course though. My NCT classes start next week - eeeek! Hope they teach you something smile

Littleen Sat 04-Jan-14 12:30:48

Cubano Hope your class is more appropriate this time!

Thanks for all the responses! I do have quite a "what have I done" sort of mind at the moment, and worry loads about how my other half will be once baby arrives. He really wants to be a dad though, so I'm hoping it will be fine. I think I worry that he doesn't worry enough, if that makes sense? Also he is not very good at doing his share of housework, and I can't keep on top of it on my own (even without a baby) so I feel the house is in a constant state of mess!

Reassuring to hear that most of your OH's have upped their efforts though, and that sparetime is still an option smile

petty Sounds frustrating for you when you had your first child! Good that you managed to find a solution smile

misskatamari Sat 04-Jan-14 14:49:54

I hope your nhs classes go well today cubano. I never got round to booking mine as could never get hold of the right person so thank god I did nct or I wouldn't have a clue! The second lady from our class had her baby yesterday morning eeeeek!

Gosh what a busy morning I've had. Got stuff from primark for birth and afterwards (so much nice "loungewear" that looks good for ready feeding too) and more giant pants, then got arnica, evening primrose oil, nipple cream and free changing bag from boots smile I also strayed into the m&s sale and got some cute bargains for when baby is older, then picked up our car seat (in bright pink grin) and base and finally returned my library books (to a giant fine ooops). So all in all very productive but I am now not allowed to go to shops again as I have gone a bit spend crazy! At least I got bargains I guess.

Hoping to start dyeing some of the white muslins and baby grows today yaaaaay! Baby is really really wriggly! I hope she's been listening and is getting herself in the "optimum birth position". I hope you're all having good weekends x

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 15:28:38

Having a slightly shit day mood-wise, have got out of the house to my mum's to get away from DH for a bit and have just bought a juicer online in the hopes that it will encourage regular pooing and good health.

DH loves to be in the house at the weekend but I need to get out and do something - anything - or I get all depressed as otherwise we spend the whole day sitting on the sofa as the house isn't very big.

I'm now questioning the Uppababy as the reviews I read on Which seem to say it's not great for offroading which is pretty much all the routes I walk, and I'd want to walk them with baby. Exept - unless the buggy has exceptional suspension, won't the bumps be too much for his floppy neck at first anyway? I don't know.

misskatamari Sat 04-Jan-14 15:36:18

hmm Sorry you're having a crappy day Julie. Prams are such a nightmare aren't they! We've gone for the baby jogger city select which is supposed to be good for lots of different terrains and seems really sturdy. Don't know much about other types tho as we just fell in love with that one. I can't remember the name of it but there's a website with loads of buggy reviews and comparisons etc - might be worth a look

misskatamari Sat 04-Jan-14 15:37:47

I think this was it

gnittinggnome Sat 04-Jan-14 15:39:34

julie as far as I can tell, your LO should be laid flat in a pram-style seat on the main buggy chassis until they can support their heads, eg around 6 months, so it will be bumpy, but not damaging.

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 15:57:44

Thanks Misskat, will check it out! I've been using the Which site so far, which is decent but lacking in user reviews.

Gnitting Yep. I've also read that you shouldn't jog with a newborn (if your pram allows that) because of the jarring? Not that I'm planning to jog, um, ever!

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 15:58:40

There's also: Will I have another kid and require a double buggy? To consider. But that's a bit beyond me atm!

Champagnebubble Sat 04-Jan-14 16:04:34

Julietee we went for babystyle oyster (mothercare stock it if you want a trial). We went and did a test drive and my faces were icandy, bugaboo and Oyster. The latter being a bit cheaper so I figured I could buy extra 'add ins' and tbh, for everything I need, it does the job. They also do air tyres as an extra which you can add which I've read are better four the parks etc which we intend in visiting as that was one of my worries about some buggies, but some also had huge wheels which I didn't like for everyday shops etc, so we may buy these as an extra if we find we need them. I've procrastinated about the pram for months so know how you feel and in the end sort if disregarded some rubbish reviews as some are really opinion focused.

Champagnebubble Sat 04-Jan-14 16:05:11

Faces? Faves.......


Champagnebubble Sat 04-Jan-14 16:07:07

Julietee, we decided to disregard the 'double' variable but I know some ladies in here factored that in.....if you do that, then your choice does kinda get smaller and easier though!!!!!!!

sunflowered Sat 04-Jan-14 16:09:54

champagne we've gone for the oyster too (but oyster max for added flexibility). It's still in its box at the moment though so no comments on what it's actually like yet...

littleen this is our first baby but also had a few housework related wobbles with dh recently - he does nothing for 2 weeks then has a tantrum and demands that we get a cleaner (which we can't really afford at the moment). He's said he doesn't mind doing it, he just needs to be told what to do (hmm ) - while I'd love him to just get on and do stuff as it's needed, am considering a tick list for when the baby's born so that it doesn't cause any arguments... Sounds like a good idea to be conscious about making time to spend together - it's so easy just to collapse on the sofa with smartphone and mn ahem and ignore each other, and that's without a baby to think about.

Dh and I have both had minor 'what are we letting ourselves in for' meltdowns in the last few weeks. He's worried about the added responsibility taking over his life and changing all the bits he likes, I'm worried about how I'll get into a baby-focused life on mat leave then struggle to get back to work this time next year. We both have to make changes and work things out as we go along, but these last few weeks while we're waiting to start that process could be quite unsettled I think.

In other news, shamelessly used bump to avoid the queue for the airport shuttle bus this morning grin Got home to find roof still leaking and builder 'a bit stuck' on what's causing it sad And an unexpected veg box delivery sitting on the doorstep when we got home (think disintegrated cardboard box, muddy vegetables starting to rot, eggs sitting out in the rain for who knows how long...) that needed to be dealt with in the rain. Back to the real world. Glass of wine would be nice this afternoon!

CubanoHabana Sat 04-Jan-14 16:23:27

NHS class was actually really good - was my actual midwife who led it, rather than the health visitors who did last one.

julietee we have gone for silver cross surf all terrain! which comes with the ability to have 4 wheels or 3 air wheel as standard. Loved the look of it, not too big but can be used to jog with but also used easily in shops etc. not arrived yet, so don't actually know what it's like but fingers crossed!

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 16:26:51

Champagne Thanks! Air filled tyres (just blanked on that word for at least a minute) sound good.

Sunflowered Eww! Did you pay for that or find it randomly?
We find trash in our drive all the time, it makes me angry.

winterflowers Sat 04-Jan-14 16:45:08

cubano glad the class was better! I asked my mw about our nhs ones and she basically told me not to bother as I'm doing nct. Thought that was a bit strange tho, may ask again.

litleen am sure everything will be ok once the LO arrives and your OH sees the support you need. But you should try and raise it with him - or do you have any form of antenatal classes coming up as they may help

amazing productive morning misskat!

jazzcat28 Sat 04-Jan-14 17:08:17

misskat what a busy morning you've had! Hope you are sat with a cuppa and feet up now.

cubano glad your class went well. Our first NCT session is on weds night and I can't wait.

We were very fortunate and given cash by DHs family instead of gifts for Xmas, plus got a few amazon vouchers off my auntie so this morning DH and I sat and ordered our bespoke cot mattress, baby monitor, baby bath and a cute cot mobile which has a projector to beam stars on the ceiling. Spent what felt like a fortune but it was all within the cash we received thank god!

sunflowered Sat 04-Jan-14 17:17:53

julietee looks like I paid for it - emailed to cancel deliveries until next week but they seem to have forgotten... It's a local farmer's business so feel bad but they've made so many little mistakes recently that I might change to one of the bigger companies or tesco where you don't have to wash the slugs off the veg yourself

jazz your shopping spree sounds like a great way to spend a rainy saturday smile

Dh asleep on the sofa with a serious case of post-xmas blues. Think all the talk about babies while we were staying with his family has made him realise for the first time how far away they are. He needs the man version of thanks and cake but what he has instead is a leaking roof to sort out and a 6 hr nct class tomorrow sad

marzipanned Sat 04-Jan-14 17:18:03

Cubano glad you had a good class. I wasn't planning on taking NHS ones as I heard they weren't as good as NCT but having now done NCT I'm sort of wishing I had done the NHS ones too.
Apparently my yoga teacher runs the relaxation during labour class which, knowing her, would be amazing.

Sunflowered that has happened to me so many times (veg box), eggs are always fine but the veg is good for nothing except soup, and then I realise I've spent £12 on a pan of soup, which is depressing. Sorry you're still having roof nightmares too. sad

Julietee based purely on having seen my friend's Uppababy, it seems similar in quite a few ways to the icandy apple (which I've got) though the apple is apparently good for off roading. The tyres are huge anyway. But I'm not one to take advice from on prams, I absolutely hated trying to choose one and just went for the first one that looked like a good deal on gumtree so I didn't have to think about it any more.
Can sympathise re your DH - mine is the same at the moment, but I can't pester him because he's working so hard (has spent all day today in bed, but working!!). All the same I end up feeling a bit cooped up. Really hope that when baby arrives we manage to get out at least once a day.

I think I've now got everything for baby bar car seats. Used that babymattress website to get a cot mattress plus sheets for cot, Arms Reach and pram carrycot. Still need a few things for me, but that's a lot less important!

On a sad note, the extra Christmas cake I baked to eat for energy during breastfeeding has now been entirely consumed sad

LittlePandaBear Sat 04-Jan-14 17:18:53

Happy Saturday!

I have the Oyster from DD and it did the job for us - we're using it all again. I have a friend who bought a new car so her big pram would fit in which seems like the wrong way round to me grin.

I went to the hairdresser today [swish emoticon] and now have darker brown shiny hair instead of faded blonde ratty highlights!

Then went to the supermarket and bought a breast pump, starter packs of nappies, maternity and breast pads etc. So now I have most things for a hospital bag! I say bag, it will be a wheely suitcase plus changing bag. Really need to find our steriliser from last time - I know I didn't throw it out!

I get quite a lot of Braxton Hix (MIL called them Branston Hix grin) but still think baby isn't head down. Maybe he just has a large bum.


Littleen Sat 04-Jan-14 17:28:55

sunflowered veg box sounds a bit of a hassle! Huff! So I'm not the only one with housework issues, my other half says I must ask for help, then moans quite a bit when I do, so I end up feeling bad and apologizing! So pointless. Bump as excuse for anything is good, we deserve it :P Hope your roof gets sorted soon!

Cubano Also got silvercross, though can't remember which model. It looks pretty! :P

winter Thank you, I do hope my worries are for nothing! My local council decided that there's no room for classes in the budget. So much for being "one of the richest countries blabla" eh -.-

DawnOfTheDee Sat 04-Jan-14 18:09:52

Argh..my dh used to do the 'tell me what to do' / 'you need to ask for help' shite. I refused. I will not have all the responsibility for saying and organising what needs doing, by who and when. Sod that for a game of soldiers.

We're still not perfect but after a bit of "why have you just shoved those plates in the sink? wash them up as you go along"..."don't walk past all the crap on the stairs...take some up with you" style coaching he is a lot better at 'seeing' what stuff needs doing himself.

CubanoHabana Sat 04-Jan-14 18:18:35

Do we need sheets for pram? I have a baby nest for it...

DawnOfTheDee Sat 04-Jan-14 18:26:44

Don't know what a baby nest is but we have sheets for the carrycot in our pram (babystyle oyster). The mattress in the carrycot is pretty much exactly the same size as that in the moses basket so we can use them interchangeably.

marzipanned Sat 04-Jan-14 19:18:00

I got sheets for the pram because I'm not getting a moses basket so think the carrycot will be used for quite a lot of napping. Plus it'll be what I take to ILs for baby to sleep in overnight. But the woman I bought it from said she never bothered as she only used it for wheeling the baby about.

Artisticme Sat 04-Jan-14 19:29:55

Are many people getting Moses baskets and if so what ones? Totally didn't remember from last time what a range of styles and prices there are:/ had a look at the stokke day bed but not sure it's worth the price:/ and so does "daybed" mean not suitable for nighttime sleeping? Really all I need is replacement covers for the whole basket because I already have 3 but just can't find any that look decent!

jazzcat28 Sat 04-Jan-14 19:33:00

Hmm hadn't even contemplated buying sheets for the carry cot. We have a moses basket for indoors so guess could use one of the spare sheets for that if we ever use the carry cot for sleeping in on occasional visits elsewhere.

Have any of your families mentioned getting a cot specifically for their house? Am starting to think both mine and DH's parents are a bit loopy... both live a minimum of 2.5hrs drive away and both are in the throws of kitting out a spare room as a nursery, complete with cot. If we lived in the same town I could kinda understand it, but we will probably only go visit one or the other family once a month so travel cot would surely suffice? Or am I stifling the excitement they are all going through as its the first grandchild for all of them? I just think it's a bit strange!

My DM also wanted her own moses basket but I managed to persuade her that given bean will outgrow it in a matter of a month or two (during which I may only be able to visit once or twice), that was a total waste of money. hmm

Gah I have the "tell me what to do" - does my head in! We now have blackboard in the hallway and I write down the weeks tasks and its up to dh to pick up his fair share.

I have sheets for my carry cot - ds was a v sicky baby so much easier to clean up!

Also I don't understand "not suitable for over night sleeping"? Newborns tend to be awake to feed every 2 hours day and night anyway so night sleep is no more than day time sleep in the early months hmm confused

Artisticme Sat 04-Jan-14 20:41:07

petty this is my thoughts but just wondered why then it would be called a "day bed" seems odd.

Unplastered Sat 04-Jan-14 21:03:39

My DH had lived alone with his children part-time for several years for I met him so he is pretty good with housework! His standards are not as high as mine though so I do have to remind him, but if I ask, from my position on the sofa, he will do anything housework wise except ironing.

Re prams. I've not tested masses, but 'good off-road' was our main criteria for buying both this and our previous pushchair. The main things are big, air filled tyres, the bigger the better for rough and soft terrain. Things like the Quinny Buzz (with 2 big wheels and small ones at the back) just don't cut it IMO.

I've got a Moses basket for night time, just a basic one from Mothercare 5 years ago, and a Moses-sized carrycot for on the pushchair which we will also use downstairs in the daytime, on a Moses stand in the living room. Both need sheets and I bought some in B&M which were actually cheaper than pillowcases which are fine to use instead.
I actually used the carrycot overnight a couple of times when DD was tiny and too small really for a travel cot. Once I just left it on the pram and she slept perfectly. It has a proper Moses mattress so I can't see why they say 'not suitable for overnight sleeping', seems stupid to me,

One more day of school holiday then Dd is back at school and I get some time to myself! Might actually get round to sorting out my hospital bags at last.

Littleen Sat 04-Jan-14 21:07:32

Petty Just before reading your post, I decided to get a blackboard to write down tasks on! And when baby comes, I can add the "we have to be good examples for him," as an incentive as well.

jazz I'd say just let them have fun with the whole nursery thing smile My mum was going to do that (we live 10 mins away) but then she got too ill to do it, so it's not happening now.

Carry cot - is that something separate? We'll just be using the pushchair so baby can sleep in it in peoples garden/balcony/porch when we visit smile Not given sheets a thought yet, going shopping on monday!

Don't get the "not suitable for night time sleeping" thing. As long as it's got a good mattress and can keep a suitable temperature, surely it doesn't matter.

notoneforselfies Sat 04-Jan-14 21:12:35

I believe the determining factor for overnight sleeping suitability is breath ability - not of the mattress but of the container, eg carrycot. If it has holes in the bottom it's fine for overnight but if it's solid then it's not. I guess it's because overnight implies you will be asleep while baby is in it and so not be alert to it rolling (?) and then not being able to breathe? Whereas during the day assumes you will be observing.

notoneforselfies Sat 04-Jan-14 21:16:04

Depth of sides as well as holes in the chassis is what makes a carrycot able to advertise as suitable or not - so it's ventilation.

EeyoreIsh Sat 04-Jan-14 21:44:40

I'm planning to use the carrycot to my uppababy vista for daytime naps, and overnight when we're away from home. I've bought some fitted sheets for it so that it's easy to keep clean.

I've had the most lovely day smile took the Xmas decorations down (well, DH did and I packed them), then onto his mum's for a nice cup of tea and a catch up, and then spent all afternoon with friends. It was one of those easy, feel good in a warm glowy kind of a way, days!

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 22:26:43

So what pram did you decide on, Unplastered?

I've ended up spending quite a lot today - paid for a course of preg yoga classes, juicer, food shop then takeaway! My debit card is sad.

Julietee Sat 04-Jan-14 22:27:49

Also - Does anyone know if regular aqua aerobics are safe? Rather than ones that are specified for preggos? My local leisure centre only has the regular kind.

Unplastered Sat 04-Jan-14 22:33:11

Julietee, we had a Quinny Speedi last time which was fab - just a few things we didn't like (forward facing only, pushchair didn't sit upright enough for a bigger child, hood not big enough - minor stuff). This time we went for a Maxi Cosi mura plus, which seems to do everything we liked about the Speedi and solved the above problems. Hope we like it as much when we actually get to use it! Both fit a maxi cosi cabriofix and DH has slightly altered the plastic clips (shaved a tiny bit of purely cosmetic plastic off) on the dreami carrycot to make it fit the mura.

gnittinggnome Sat 04-Jan-14 22:36:47

Just checked on my carrycot, and whilst it is apparently suitable for occasional overnight use, the special edition of it needs a separate mattress for overnight sleeping.... It's not expensive, but I hadn't even considered bedding for it.

What would you use in a carrycot in February when out and about? Obviously Bean will be dressed in a few layers, and I've knitted a couple of pram blankets, but would a very new baby need a footmuff insert? Handwarmers by his little feet? Suddenly fretting.

notoneforselfies Sat 04-Jan-14 22:46:40

I'm just planning on a snowsuit and blankets? As many as are needed for the temp I guess... (This is just what I assumed - I have zero experience!) 'Bedding' for it simply consists of Jersey Moses basket sheets (got 3 for £1 at an nct sale) but that's just to protect the mattress from any sick and something I can take off and clean when it picks up dust and cat hair etc!

marzipanned Sat 04-Jan-14 22:59:29

jazz my MIL was talking about doing this but I told her we would bring some sort of sleeping arrangement for the baby. I don't see us visiting the PILs more than a couple of times a year but I think they might be anticipating a lot more visits than that...

notone that all makes total sense but I think my carrycot is pretty solid yet it says on website that it's suitable for night sleeping. Hmm.

I'm also planning on snowsuit and blankets for out and about based on advice when I posed this question on FB page! Plus the carrycot has a cover that snaps over the top which would stop wind etc getting in - I think most of them do?

We are finally back in our own bedroom tonight after 5 months in the guest room. SO happy. En suite, lush new down mattress topper, king size bed. Will thoroughly enjoy sleeping in here for the next few weeks before my life loses the concept of sleep altogether...

Littleen Sun 05-Jan-14 01:02:23

gnitting According to advice I've found, babies would normally have a sheepskin thingy on the mattress in the pram (when out and about and it's cold), or a wool blanket, and then 2 layers of wooly clothes on baby, making sure baby is not too tightly wrapped in a winter sleeping bag or under duvet and blanket smile Mind this advice is for snowy weather, so might be too hot in the UK, depending on where you live! I'll be going for a solution like this, depending on what we can afford.

Mind, the most important thing is that baby is not wrapped up too tightly, as that will make it colder.

marzi I am most envious of your new mattress and en-suite bathroom! Grats on moving back in to your own bedroom smile

We just got back from the hospital, after I phoned about reduced movement for two days, I was adviced to come in. Baby was fine - although not happy when I had to lie on my back for 20 minutes for CTG thingy. When they let me lie on my side for a while instead, he was happy chappy again. Atleast we now know where to go if he decides to come in the evening smile

Littleen Sun 05-Jan-14 01:03:51

Oh, just realised that they recommend 1 layer of wool if it's plus degrees 1+ and up. So that would probably include most of you guys, apart from any very far northeners!

sunflowered Sun 05-Jan-14 07:42:33

marzi not only have I spent £12 on soup ingredients in the ex-veg box, I'd stopped at the supermarket on the way home from pils and bought a fridge full of food including soup ingredients...

Excellent news about finally getting your bedroom back smile

I also hadn't thought about how to keep the baby warm on the move... For clothes, I've been told 'as many layers as you would wear, plus one extra' but otherwise completely clueless. I'm hoping that as well as 'how to get the baby out' our nct agenda includes 'how to keep it alive'.

Back and, erm, inner thighs are killing me today after walking through airport and around supermarket yesterday. Really feel for those of you who feel like this every day, it's miserable.

LovesToBake Sun 05-Jan-14 09:13:10

Jazz I would definitely sit back and let the grandparents kit out a nursery at their houses, it will make visits so straightforward all the time the little one is sleeping in a cot - usually until 2-3yrs. My parents and my ILs both got cots when DS was born (first grandchild for both) - although we sourced a second hand one through a friend for the ILs and it has honestly made me much more inclined to visit, knowing that DS will sleep well and be nicely contained! Plus of course they'll probably get years of use out of them from future grandchildren so I'm sure they see it as a good investment and just want you to feel comfortable when you come and visit. Lots of my friends would kill for parents and ILs with this attitude!

So my sickness returned this morning after about a 2 week absence. Classic usual triggers - was over at a friend's for supper last night and we didn't eat until late (9ish) and it was a fairly meaty, heavy meal. Annoying but at least I know I have a chance of keeping it under control still by avoiding those triggers.

Thisisfreakingmeout Sun 05-Jan-14 09:30:57

Eeyore where did you get the Uppababy sheets? I had the same sort of idea for day time naps in the carry cot. We got ours yesterday in silver. It will look like a baby astronaut in a re-entry pod! I like the colour but it is all futuristic.

DH has been learning how to click all the bits on, fold and unfold. Nearly made me well up... Prego nutter!

EeyoreIsh Sun 05-Jan-14 09:42:56

thisis I got them from mothercare, they're Moses basket size. I haven't actually checked they fit yet blush

we got the silver version too, snap smile

36 weeks today, which means by this time next week I'll be term shock

Julietee Sun 05-Jan-14 09:59:41

I'm also hoping the NCT class covers keeping the baby alive! I am so clueless it's not even funny. I've never interacted with babies from family or friends so I don't have any base knowledge to work off! Never even changed a nappy before.

People with NCT Bednest - where are you getting the sheets? The mattress seems a funny size and the sheets sold on the NCT site seem pretty expensive.

marzipanned Sun 05-Jan-14 10:17:28

Littleen glad your little one was okay after the worry. I forgot we have a sheepskin...will be using that in the pram and everywhere else I think!

Loves sorry to hear about the sickness sad Hope you can avoid for the remaining few weeks.

Julietee I've bought all my sheets from babymattressesonline.co.uk/ They custom make sheets and mattresses to order, aren't that expensive, and though I haven't had the sheets delivered yet their delivery of the carrycot mattress was very speedy.

gnittinggnome Sun 05-Jan-14 10:22:16

Thanks littleen we ought to be ok then!

Re sheets for cot beds, if you've got access to a sewing machine have a stab at cutting up a bigger sheet - I've got 8 snuzpod sheets (mattress size 36 x 80 x 5cm) from one King size flannelette sheet from JL (22 quid for the sheet = 2.75 per sheet!) plus some pieces leftover to make two little mattress protectors, and I've just cut it up and hemmed it. (My attempts at a fitted sheet were miserable.) Plus the flannelette is so soft and warm and gorgeous I want to buy another king size sheet and just wrap myself in it!

notoneforselfies Sun 05-Jan-14 10:28:04

Julietee I bought some sheets from kiddicare that I think might fit... I get the bednest delivered a week on Monday so will try then and if they don't I'll get them from that babymattressesonline site. I'll let you know if the kiddicare ones work when I get the bednest delivery if that's not too late for you?

Julietee Sun 05-Jan-14 10:34:43

Notone Thanks! Not too late at all.

Gnitting I do indeed have sewing machine access. And some old sheets. Could be a solution. I don't want to attempt fitted sheets either smile

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 11:44:13

Good morning. I'm such a hormonal mess at the moment! DS is ill with a streaming cold so none of us have slept well for 3 nights, and he's worse today so that's not improving any time soon.

DH is being wonderful and working so hard in the nursery, sourcing curtains and furniture etc as well as looking after me, DS and all the housework I can't do at the moment (keep getting those terrible knitting needle pains in my crotch).

I couldn't ask for more but I'm so bloody cranky and stressed I feel like exploding. I've become quite intolerant of certain noises DS is making (screeching and constant chatting) but I should be pleased because he only does this when he's happy and he's been so poorly I should be glad he's playing happily.

Because of the constant jabbing and pressure pains I'm feeling really insecure like waters are going to break any second and although this is my 2nd, because I had to be induced with DS and had no niggles or twinges at all, it's all new to me.

I'm so sorry to come on here and just rant. confusedconfused

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 11:45:09

Forgot to say I'm 37+4 today brew

laura0007 Sun 05-Jan-14 11:48:15

Sorry you're having a rough time Lastnight. Hopefully you'll be feeling better soon. Not long to go now, at least you can say in 5 weeks your daughter will be here!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 11:51:40

I know it's just hormones and the last bit is so hard without illness thrown I to the mix! Just frustrated with myself as I want to be nice to DS and DH not a cranky cow.

misskatamari Sun 05-Jan-14 11:58:38

hmm Sorry you're feeling so crap Lastnight. Can you squeeze a nap in today? Or a nice bath? I know it must be hard to get time for yourself with ds to look after but you'd probably feel loads better for it if you can x

Artisticme Sun 05-Jan-14 12:21:42

Sorry your feeling so rubbish lastnight. Hormonal mess here too. I'm 34+3, must be something in the dates!! Never easy when there's illness involved and sleepless nights even when your not pregnant.
My OH got home Friday, went out yesterday for "a few" drinks with a friend and didn't come til 12.30 last having been in a fight (we've been together 7 years and first time I Ever known him to do such a thing) he woke up this morning with a black eye and I had his friend sleeping in my sofa. Today is the day we're supposed to be decorating the nursery and at the moment all OH is fit for is his bed and he's away in the bath in a huff with me for being angry with him.

Sorry for the rant, no one else to vent to and he's just making me feel in the wrong for being angry at him atall.

EeyoreIsh Sun 05-Jan-14 12:31:54

lastnight there's nothing wrong with being a hormonal mess as this time. I'm sure your DH understands. I hope your DS gets better soon.

thanks brew thanks

misskatamari Sun 05-Jan-14 12:43:35

Grrrr id be annoyed too artisticme as you'd made plans. Hopefully he'll feel better after a bath and can be of use! Can you get some coffee and carbs down him and spur him into action?

KalevalaForMePlease Sun 05-Jan-14 12:46:14

I reckon we should all vent away! Everyone else is an arsehole in the last few weeks of pregnancy, especially the "Wow, you're so big! Are you sure it's just one baby you've got in there?" comedians.

Littleen, so glad everything is ok. thanks

Jazz, I agree with lovestobake. My MIL, bless her, got a change mat, travel cot, car seat and highchair for when DD was born, and it makes things so much easier. We just had dinner there tonight. DD has hers early, then goes down to sleep in the cot no bother, then comes home with us when we're going. She's also had DD for sleepovers at weekends as well, and it's so good not having to cart things back and forth.

Artisticme Sun 05-Jan-14 12:51:48

Think he is possibly on the move misskat Haha don't know how productive he'll be but we may have a nursery before the days out!! Fx.

Littleen Sun 05-Jan-14 12:56:35

Julietee Fingers crossed it will cover this as well! I am the same - no experience whatsoever, and no classes to learn from! My other half looked after nephews when they were small so he will have to teach me everything O.o haha.

lastnight Hope you feel better soon, perhaps you could talk to your MW about the pains you have, to reassure you if nothing else? Atleast you really don't have long to go at all, before getting to meet the new baby smile

artistic Wonder what happened to cause him to get in a fight :O You certainly can be angry with him, sounds like irresponsible behaviour. Though I would still talk to him and ask what happened, it might have a better explanation than just "got drunk, got in a fight"!

I know the man-thing of making you feel in the wrong for being mad though - my other half said yesterday that I was 'useless at helping out' (with diy, because when I do help, he says I do it wrong, which he proved to do again yesterday) and it all ended with me apologizing for being useless, when really he was in the wrong.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 13:00:28

I know the pains are just crotch lightening, it's all signs that things are progressing. But they bloody hurt!!

winterflowers Sun 05-Jan-14 14:23:14

Lastnight hope you're doing ok, tis your body getting ready so just take it easy and don't feel bad for anything. It's exciting you are so close now.

Glad all ok litleen always best to get checked and typical he woke up as soon as you're there! My LO still has quiet periods too, wouldn't have thought there was still space for them to hide.

I have the bednest on its way as well and tbh hadn't really thought about sheets yet. I have a heap of jersey sheets that are probably more.cot sized - do you think I'll be ok using those and tucking them in well? Then was planning on using sleeping bags and a cellular blanket. Same for the moses basket I'll keep downstairs for daytime naps.

thanks artistic

I just pulled out all the baby clothes from the attic and I have 12 sleep suits, 17 vests and the various hats/cardies etc... that's just the newborn pile shock the 0-3 and 3-6 month piles are even bigger shock shock shock shock this is mostly all ds's gender neutral stuff plus a handful of items from my best friend. she has stacks of girls clothes on stand by for me too depending on babies flavour grin where the pants am I going to put all this stuff?

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 15:34:54

Another one here whinging, although mine are really quite minor in comparison to everyone else...

Got up early to tidy house as mil and step fil coming over to do last bit of DIY in nursery. Asked oh to help yesterday but the full extent of his help was to out all the crisp and chocolate packets he had piled up beside him into a carrier bag as bin is full, he then said he would help today.

Conldnt wake him up today, so of course did it all myself, bar the bins and litter trays (tbh it wasn't that much but still). Then get call to say they weren't coming over, as not well (again, not huge thing and they were coming yo do us a favour, even though I had tried to get oh to get them over next week with it being last day of hols before back at work today) and will come next week.

Finally oh gets up and I have to nag and nag him to do the litter trays (not Been done since Christmas Eve, yuck, I used to do them every couple of days, but they are in a cupboard with a cat flap, so he thinks out of sight out of mind and smell ). Finally got him to do them, on the condition that I did all the bins...

It's just really irritated me! I cook, clean, do the washing... Granted I have Ben on holiday for 2 weeks and he has only had a couple of days off, so I don't mind to some extent but this happens when I'm at work as well. Having minor panics about when baby is here because I get really worked up after a while about mess and can get quite depressed about it.

In the past when I have asked him to do things, oh will get a bit stroppy, do it and then few weeks later will complain how I've been nagging him. So now, I have to say things as a compromise...eg If you do this, I will make you a cup of tea...

We never argue about anything and I think he will be a fab dad and he is really thoughtful at times but I just don't want to have keep asking him to do things when baby turns up, would really like him to do it off his own back...

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 15:36:04

Wow that was an essay and a half! Also makes oh sound bad when he's absolutely lovely and would do anything for me (apart from cleaning unless asked!)...

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 15:43:23

Forgot to say also, also in oh's defence, he has given up smoking for new year... So has been a bit snappier and less inclined to do things as he is craving badly.

He had quit whilst we were ttc and right up until last 2/3 months but slowly started again (only those little cigars and 2 or 3 a day) and I had told him that he must stop when baby born but it was his idea to stop as a New Years resolution, so I haven't argued with him!

Thingymajigs Sun 05-Jan-14 15:49:22

Same thing is happening here too cubano. I'm beginning to think that any initial patience our partners had at the start of our pregnancy has now gone. My DP has gone from obsessively protecting me and doing the litter trays all the time to supreme laziness and casually letting me climb ladders today to repaint a room that he wasn't happy with (I wasn't bothered) whilst he watched football. I think they have become a bit bored by it all. Meanwhile we are less physically able to do these jobs and more irritated by their laziness.
It was DP's birthday yesterday so as normal I gave him a complete day off from everything while I made him a cake and his favourite dinner. He only left his bed to go to the toilet. This has spoilt him though because he's doing the bare minimum today. I better get on with the second coat really and try to hide my resentment a bit better.

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 15:51:59

thingy that is the prefect word for how I am feeling... Resentment!

Thingymajigs Sun 05-Jan-14 15:52:53

Weirdly my DP has issues with smoking too. We quit together 6 months before TTC and I noticed when I was 3 months pregnant that he stank of smoke. He lied to me about it for ages but didn't stop once he had admitted it but he only smokes at work. He hasn't smoked at all while he's been home for 2 weeks. But if you can stop for that long why on earth do you start again? Makes no bloody sense.
Ahhh I feel better now after a rant.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 16:01:29

Wow Cubano you must have really clean cats! We clean our trays about 6 times a day (2 cats, 2 trays) because they stink. And total clean out every 7 days. Bloody cats confusedconfused

jazzcat28 Sun 05-Jan-14 16:06:56

cubano feeling for you with the cleaning and your DH. Mine flits between having to be told what to do and then I'm told I'm nagging. He doesn't really do half of everything round the house but he does work more than me. After my epic nosebleed the other day he told me I'm not to bend down as much and proceeded to unpack the washing machine and tumble drier for me. But later on I had to pack the dishwasher and sweep up the kitchen floor hmm I keep reminding him every now and again that I might need a CS which will mean he has to do EVERYTHING for a couple of weeks and he says he understands but I'm not entirely sure he does...

I am dead chuffed with my TK Maxx shopping trip today. PIL bought me 2 pairs of mens joggers which were miles too small for me as 'comfy maternity loungewear'. Bless them, they don't realise how big I am! Alas couldn't find any suitable loungewear to swap them for, so instead swapped for a cute neutral jungle print babygrow/sleepsuit/bib set, a Le Creuset pie dish (bargain), 2 new baking sheets and a brownie tin with £2.50 change! Am hoping to make some cakes and biscuits to take in for last few days at work, but not sure I have the energy.

Also went into BabyGAP to check out the sale and found lots of lovely stuff for very cheap prices but couldn't bring myself to buy any as we still don't know what we're having. I really want some (sale) stuff from there though, as I worked in there for almost 8 years and spent most of my time daydreaming about what I'd buy for my baby in years to come...

misskatamari Sun 05-Jan-14 16:11:15

My DH successfully quit smoking too when I got pregnant - well he had quit and was taking champix which are horrible and made him feel crappy. He's started again now though as his work is so stressful at the moment and he's working ridiculous hours. I hate it and am getting worried about him being able to quit before the baby arrives. I feel guilty for being annoyed at him about it, but I hate that he's struggled so much to give up and now has to go through that all again. He was learning to drive too and hoping to have passed his test before now but hasn't been able to have any lessons for the last month or so due to his stupid work hours (15 hour days and in weekends etc). I'm just hoping they let him book some time off when the bloody project finishes this week as I really need his help at home and we want to actually spent some quality time together before the baby comes. hmm I'm joining the feeling crappy club today it seems! Sorry for the rant!

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 16:31:23

Thingy and misskat that is completely my oh - stopped for so long, why want to start and he says it's because work is stressful...

Lastnight - no the cats could poop for England! But we found using the wood pellets was 100 times better than other litter and really masks the smell plus with it being in cupboard, only get the smell when door is opened fully. Although we did initially have to get a movement sensor light for the cupboard for them until they got used to it! Also, food changed and not as explosive as they once were (tmi sorry).

Do not want to go back to school tomorrow and STILL have loads of marking to do but want to enjoy last day off!

LittlePandaBear Sun 05-Jan-14 16:53:37

I'm also a bit grumpy and under the weather today - sore throat and headache all day and just want to sleep! Back to work tomorrow after 2 weeks off and really don't want to go back, even though I only have 6 days to go spread over 2 weeks! I can't be bothered to get back into work mode as I've just been thinking of mat leave and baby this past few weeks and want to concentrate on that, not get up early and commute to the office sad I'm sure it will go fast...

My DH gave up smoking when I was pregnant with DD nearly 4 years ago. He was very much a social smoker - could go for days at home without having one but if stressed at work, on a night out he'd puff away. He replaced it with nicorette mints and sprays which did work for him (and the fact that there were less nights out after DD was born!). The trouble is he's now addicted to them and is still on them! I do nag about it as it seems like such a waste of money and I'm sure they can't be good for him, but must be better for his health than the cigarettes and no negative affects for baby.

I'm quite lucky that DH is helpful around the house. His mum is obsessively clean and tidy and it's rubbed off on him (opposite of my mum!). Sometimes it's annoying though as he'll move stuff that I've left out on purpose to remind me to do something and I have to go hunting for it.

Baby clothes are in the tumble dryer, looking forward to putting them away smile

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 05-Jan-14 17:01:57

We use wood pellets too, kind of. They will only tolerate cats best oko plus (v expensive) and if you leave the slightest trace of wee or poo in the tray they refuse to use them and do it on the floor instead. It's horrendous confused

EeyoreIsh Sun 05-Jan-14 17:11:08

Sorry to hear some of you are having DHs that aren't pulling their weight. Mine was fab at the start, but as I've got better during the pregnancy he's done less. He still does his fair share, but my nesting instinct is making it tough for him and my standards have gone up!

I've been so lazy today. I stayed in bed until 11.30, got up and did a few things, then settled onto the sofa for the last three hours blush

I've got all my paperwork out to do my birth plan, not made much progress though! I'm a bit cynical about how much notice will be taken of it though.

Champagnebubble Sun 05-Jan-14 18:07:05

Sorry it seems to be a crappy day for most today sad. I hope those of you who are back to work tomorrow for a short while are making the most of your Sunday evenings - not long to go now smile. Thankfully I'm feeling a bit better than I was this morning so that's good. That's apart from tiredness, backache, grumpiness etc!

I feel for those of you who are getting annoyed with DP's/DH's, I have a bit of a clean and tidy thing - I like everything 'just so' so it must be irritating, and especially with those normal 'chores' - you just can't leave them. Luckily in our house so does DH though - he likes things 'just so' too to a certain extent! At the start when I had HG badly he did everything and I've slowly took back on my share, only to start to struggle again now as tiredness and the fact I'm slower has kicked in and he's sort of taken over my bits again without us discussing it. To be fair, I am so lucky there - he's usually the one saying that he hates the mess and he starts tidying up without me saying and I've sort of taken on the lighter chores when I'm up to it.

I've got to finish my birth plan for my midwife by Wednesday too Eeyore. The mw wants to go through it then. I can't help feel like it's a bit of a waste of time! So many variables might mean that the plan I set my heart on mean it might not happen! I mean, if baby doesn't flip, then all of my plan goes out of the window and I will have to write a new one. How depressing. I really don't want to think about my 'ideal' in case baby doesn't play ball and then I've really thought about what my 'ideal' is....and then that will upset me if I can't do that. I know that birth is never straightfoward, but I think there is some logic there....somewhere!! I guess there are some choices with a c-section and I should think about both, but I find that too depressing to think about at the moment - even though I'm sort of ok with it if it has to happen that way. I just wouldn't choose it so I don't really want to plan it unless I'm told it has to happen iyswim. Gah...I guess I'll cobble something together and not think too deeply about it just yet and just hope, pray and will baby to flip.

I have just re-checked the criteria for the birth centre in my area to check that I'm not over the BMI criteria blush. I'm not and have some lee-way still (I'm still the same-ish dress size in maternity clothes and haven't put on which weight that goodness), but crikey, can you imagine that if baby flips and everything else goes to plan that I get blocked from going there if I'm just over! That would be horrid! Does anyone know how they work it out though? When I was weighed at the booking in and my height plotted on the chart I was well within, but obviously since then some of that is the weight of the baby - does this get deducted from your 'weight' score? Surely that's unfair if you're carrying extra weight due to fluid etc and it's not actually 'your' weight!

LemonDrizzleCake11 Sun 05-Jan-14 18:28:18

My MW thinks my birth plan of 'whatever as long as baby and I are well' is too vague whereas I think its a good way of not being disappointed by the 'birth experience' (I hope!)

Am feeling HUGE now thought and cannot believe that it may well still be 7 weeks if this one is as tardy as its sibling....

DawnOfTheDee Sun 05-Jan-14 18:38:37

Can't be arsed writing my birth plan down this time. It's basically 'have a vbac unless doctors recommend something else for a particular reason. Will see how I go with the drugs, might want them, might not. Oh, and dh doesn't want to cut the cord because a) he's a fainting nelly and b) he thinks the reason DD has such a perfect belly button is 'because the professionals did it'.

Littleen Sun 05-Jan-14 18:43:13

Sorry to hear so many are having a bad day. cake

Cubano that sounds very much like my OH actually. Otherwise he's amazing, it's just the 'practical' stuff he doesn't seem to do. I've decided it stresses me out just as much to nag, so I'm stopping, and just doing it myself.

thingy resentment is certainly the right word, such a pointless thing though!

So glad we have a cat flap now, and the cats don't need a litter tray ever. I hate them so much, and only the last 2 weeks can we give them cat food (the wet kind) without me having to shut them in the utility room to eat because I retched at the smell. Cat litter is 10 times worse.

Luckily neither of us smoke, nor do friends or family (apart from my gran we used to live with). Must be such an extra stress on top of pregnancy and incoming babies.

jazz in the same boat also, he wants me to remind him, yet gets annoyed and say I nag him when I do. Never happy!

lastnight One of our cats have (when very stressed) decided that the cooker top is a good place to go for the toilet. Luckily we have a flat glass one, so it's very easy to clean, but it's utterly disgusting. Would much rather he went on the floor :P

champage can our boyfriends and husbands come for a training camp with yours?

Also, what's the deal with weight gain? I really don't need any of the "extra" weight that normalweight ladies are recommended, as I was already too big when getting pregnant. I've now gained more weight than my MW recommended, although trying very hard not to. Thing is - I still wear lots of my pre-pregnancy clothes, only looser things around the waist and longer tops + some maternity ones, as I obviously have a bump now. My body apart from the bump looks exactly as it did before - where is all the weight going?!

marzipanned Sun 05-Jan-14 18:54:05

I've also got to take in birth plan thoughts for the MW on Tues. My notes have a page for it with leading questions (e.g. do you want to move around in labour? who do you want to have with you in labour?) I've basically filled it out with my preferences - no doubt it will go right out the window, but I figure it can't hurt to at least let my thoughts be known!

There is quite a good page on NHS online with a similar format if the notes in England aren't set up that way. www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/birth-plan.aspx#close just in case you haven't seen it.

Re c- section - I actually think with an ELCS you might have a better chance of getting your birth plan going to plan! I haven't written anything about a CS on mine except that I want skin to skin whether it's vaginal or CS, but if it does end up being ELCS then there are some great examples of birth plans online.

I think my DH has gone the opposite way to most of yours... he's ramped up his cleaning and tidying as the pregnancy has gone on. He's spent this entire weekend doing housework and the place has never been this clean (he's done all the carpets and sofas with the magical Rug Doctor, plus we've cleaned and varnished most of the wooden furniture...to be fair we would never have had to do any of this if it wasn't for the horrific mould which overtook the place during the summer, but it is lovely now it's finished. We also realised how unclean it must have been when we first moved in as found a grotty bib of the owners' son shoved way down the back of one of the sofas...eww)

Champs I'd imagine if you were borderline over BMI then they'd let you into the birth centre anyway... they need a cut off somewhere and it's probably more a tool for being able to refuse those women for whom they are worried there'd be complications due to weight. But it sounds like you will be just fine smile

Champagnebubble Sun 05-Jan-14 19:19:32

Littleen - haha. I think it helps that he hates mess as much as me, so he sees it, iyswim! I'd love not to be able to see mess!

According to the NHS 22lb - 26lb is 'normal' weight gain....


Marzi - yeah, see what you mean, they'd hopefully be sensible about it. In any case, I think doing the rough calculations I can put on another stone and still be ok (not that I intend to!) so hopefully that means all is ok. I'm almost 2 weeks away from 37 weeks, and therefore 5 weeks from 40 weeks, so worse comes to the worse that is 7 more weeks of pregnancy maximum and I think (hope!) I'd have to try hard to put on a stone, inbetween nausea and sickness. Easy on days when I haven't been sick, like today as I have an appetite, but on other days it is hard to eat/drink anything isn't it!!!!!!! grin

Julietee Sun 05-Jan-14 19:22:23

Ooh, Marzi, what did you do to get rid of the mould? We have some in our bathroom sad

marzipanned Sun 05-Jan-14 19:30:55

Julietee we actually had dry rot so had to have most of the house ripped apart and rebuilt - no joke!

But we still have some mould in the kitchen around the windows (the extractor fan is utterly useless and the windows don't open that far, so we get a lot of condensation when cooking) For that we've bought some mould remover spray from B&Q. It looks like pretty serious stuff (safety recommendation on back is to wear gloves, eye protection and mask when using) so you would need to keep well away and get your DH to do it. I think mine will be spraying next weekend so I shall report back then on whether it's effective or not!

winterflowers Sun 05-Jan-14 19:43:01

Ooh that's useful marzi thanks! My mw hasn't said anything to me about birthplans yet but I should be thinking about it. I'm pretty flexible really but looking at that link there are some thongs actually I really want/don't like lots of skin to skin etc.

eeyorish I've been super lazy today as well and suspect tomorrow will be the same!

CubanoHabana Sun 05-Jan-14 19:59:28

I've got to do birth plan for mw for Friday as well, really not that phased, will see how it goes but think she will want more detailed...

laura0007 Sun 05-Jan-14 20:04:46

I've got to do my birth plan for tomorrow's appointment. I don't know what to write other than, give me drugs. If I say I want them I mean now!

SugarMiceInTheRain Sun 05-Jan-14 20:13:12

Not caught up on all the thread yet, but I have packed the baby's hospital bag and most of mine - yay! Except for a baby cardigan - somehow amongst the squillions of lovely girls clothes my friend gave me (and all the neutral stuff I had) there isn't a single cardigan confused I seem to remember having loads when the boys were little, and I know I didn't give them away! Wish I'd had less willpower in JoJoMamanBebe yesterday! They had some gorgeous girly clothes in the sale but I resisted and just bought some sock-ons and a tiny Miffy soft toy.

grin at the birth plans. I haven't written a thing, mainly because when I had DS1 & DS2 if I mentioned a birthplan it was almost treated as a joke, and considering how hard it was to get the HCPs to read the vitally important health information on my notes, eg. Group B Strep + administer IV antibiotics during labour (which was all over my notes with big stickers etc!) the idea that anyone would actually read my birth plan seemed laughable. Maybe things are better now. People did ask me some preferences as the time came to make decisions during my labour, but on the whole, not a soul was interested in my birth plan, Community MW never asked etc. Friends who had babies at the same time as me, who had really set ideas about how their birth experience was going to be, then for reasons beyond their control didn't get that, ended up really taking it hard. I'd rather go with the flow like LemonDrizzle said upthread.

I am 33+2 so have a maximum of 6 weeks 5 days left as they will do the CS before term - I will get an actual date at my consultant appointment in a couple of weeks - hurrah! Still feels like an eternity away.

Had a surprise night off work last night (paid, yippee!) so finished the curtains, which are now hanging in the baby's room. At some point I will get round to taking pictures and posting them on the FB group. Today I have no energy or motivation left - we've taken down all the Christmas decs, put them away, hoovered etc and the house still looks like a bombsite (too many flipping toys and boxes of chocolates!). I feel very very flat. sad DH is fab though, has done the lion's share of the post-Christmas tidy up and is now putting the boys to bed.

SugarMiceInTheRain Sun 05-Jan-14 20:18:59

Sorry for the length of the last post! blush Sympathies to those of you feeling fed up - I'm so cranky at the moment, snapping at DH and the boys for no reason and feeling guilty afterwards but unable to lift myself out of my permanent bad mood. I'm sure I've developed frown lines during this pregnancy sad

Artisticme Sun 05-Jan-14 20:31:16

eeyore your day sounds lovely!! Very envioussmile

Hope everyone's days are ending a bit happier than they started!

Should maybe make a start on my birth plan too. Although Iv not really got many stipulations, just more see how things go and how I feel. Would love a water birth but at the moment I'm not allowed to a mlu due to low iron levelssad boo. So steak for every meal it issmile

champagne I think they use the bmi at the start of your pg rather than weighing you at the door of the birth centre wink FWIW I was over the bmi threshold last PG but was still passed for a homebirth. This time I was borderline (just under) and so no problem again.

I haven't been asked for a birth plan and wasn't last time either. Although my mw did ask me if I planned to use a birthpool and said my sofas were perfect for kneeling/leaning against for birthing ds but there has been no discussion this time. I assume afer my 34w appt on Thursday my next one will be the homebirth visit at 37w.

First load of baby clothes are in the wash (had to bleach them first as they were covered in ds's milk stains - he was such a chucker!). Actually I probably didn't need to bleach them but at the moment I am finding any excuse to run a bath with bleach and slosh clothes around to satisfy my cravings grin blush

EeyoreIsh Sun 05-Jan-14 22:19:28

champs at my 34 week appointment the midwife went through a list of questions to decide if I was suitable for MLU. I'm sure it's BMI at the start.

No progress made on birth plan blush I did however at least leave the house for church.

tinypolkadot Sun 05-Jan-14 22:20:53

I haven't been asked about a birth plan yet! Maybe I should just write one anyway. A bit worrying as the time is creeping ever closer!

We started our NCT classes last week, and had a mammoth session on Saturday, poor DH almost keeled over at one point after all the repetitive talk of labour. It's making me worry that he won't be up to the task when the time comes. Hoping the adrenaline will see him through. confused

I had an email from my boss on Friday, seriously. I'm technically on annual leave and don't start ML til the 11th. Hope this isn't the start of constant emails from her.

Getting loads of braxton hicks and stabby pains, sleeping is very hard and turning is nearly impossible. Poor DH is now in the spare room sad but at least he'll get an uninterrupted sleep for the first time in months.

I was borderline bmi when booking in, hope that doesn't affect getting on the MLU, might have to ask.


Unplastered Sun 05-Jan-14 22:22:37

Loving the talk of birth plans. My MW has just written in my notes "Birth plan -go with flow".

First day of 'proper' may leave tomorrow - DD is back at school, and I have the house to myself. I am planning a very long and indulgent bath, with NO interruptions.

Fedup1992 Mon 06-Jan-14 03:46:44

Hi I'm joining this group!!! What a nightmare this last week has been....

And your all doing your birth plans... Ill be nearly 36 weeks when I see her Friday and not even spoke to me about any of this.

Feel ain't confused in what's going on actually...

I've also only packed the baby's stuff non of mine... So I'm half wAy there

Also about feeling dizzy I fainted at a posh hotel on nye was soooo embarrassing!!! Come round pretty quick tho.

Is anyone getting cramp?? I'm getting it in my groin and bottom of my back and also right hand side of my back where I feel like I don't wanna take deep breathes sad

Not long now girls xxxx

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 05:29:34

welcome fedup smile

I'm awake early for the umpteenth night in a row. It's getting really annoying now! I've got to be up in a few hours as we've got plumbers and MIL coming, but I want more sleep first! I guess it'll have to be an afternoon nap instead.

I hope all of you still working have a good return to work after Xmas. Not long now grin

LemonDrizzleCake11 Mon 06-Jan-14 05:51:36

Hello EeyoreIsh - i've also been awake since stupid o'clock, and DS will be awake within the next ten minutes demanding breakfast/Postman Pat/'Mummy play'.

Just desperately hope he's up for an afternoon nap as I definitely will be!

sunflowered Mon 06-Jan-14 07:12:32

Awake since 4 too sad Hope you manage to get a bit of kip during the day.

Just waiting for community midwives to open to see if I can pop in and get blood pressure checked as cankles now extend to calves, knees and thighs, and more worryingly face is all swollen too and bump hasn't been its usual hyperactive self for the last 24 hrs. Might just look rough through lack of sleep but for the sake of being a couple of hours late for work thought it's worth getting checked out.

gnittinggnome Mon 06-Jan-14 07:36:35

Eeeek sunflowered if they don't open for a little while can you call your midwives at the hospital? Cankles are one thing, but a swollen face etc sounds a little more serious - definitely get checked out. Hope it's just lack of sleep/water retention.

rueyrichardson Mon 06-Jan-14 07:40:54

Sunflowered, poor you. Hope you can see a MW ASAP. Welcome Fedup. I've made a start on hospital bags too. But I got bored so we started to decorate our bedroom instead (extreme nesting type reaction). We are sleeping in the spare room until new carpet can be delivered. FX it's before baby arrives! Mess and "dirt" are starting to really get on my nerves.

Thingymajigs Mon 06-Jan-14 07:50:58

Hope everything is ok sun.
I got half an hours sleep so I'm feeling terrible. Why do restless legs only happen at night? I could happily sleep for hours now my leg has stopped twitching but I've got to get up.

Sassy20 Mon 06-Jan-14 07:51:19

Hope you get seen soon Sunflowered. I agree with the others that you definitely need to get that checked out. Hope all's ok and as you say you just look a bit rough through lack of sleep! X

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 08:05:14

sunflower glad you're getting checked out, that sounds like more swelling than normal. I hope it's nothing to worry about.

I finally managed to get back to sleep. I'm getting fed up of waking between 4-6.30 each morning, it's so annoying.

jazzcat28 Mon 06-Jan-14 08:10:24

sunflowered that swelling doesn't sound nice, I hope you get to see someone soon. Fx it's nothing serious but worth getting checked out.

I'm also struggling with sleeping. No amount of pillows is stopping me from rolling onto my back then I wake up thinking I'm a bad mum! Completely ridiculous I know but try telling me that when half asleep. Also having the really vivid nightmares again - last night's one featured us announcing the birth and name to my parents on the phone and my mum went off on a crazy angry rant about our choice of name being ridiculous. The name in the dream is actually #3 on our shortlist so now I'm thinking to scrap it alltogether!

Having had only a few hrs broken sleep I'm starting my penultimate working week from home. Undecided whether to bother doing the 90min drive to the office later in the morning (as I said I would) as I have no meetings, no work to do that can't be done from home, and must go in Tues and Weds so thinking why tire myself out before the week's begun for little benefit? The roads sound horrific after all the bad weather plus it's the big back to school/work day so traffic is going to be a nightmare.

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 08:37:45

I'd stay at home Jazz grin

Sunflowered hope all is OK and they see you quickly.

Eeyore, I feel your pain! I have to take loads if deliveries and I just want to sleep. Awake at 2am-3pm, 4-5:30pm then on/off after that last night. Biggest issue I have is that baby won't let me lie on my right, she kicks my side until I move so she must be lying there. confused I can sleep on my left but my hips go to sleep. My back is also hard to sleep on now too as if I'm remotely on my right hand side or propped up with an extra pillow, baby kicks me too hmm. Not sure if that is normal.....!

Welcome fedup.

That makes sense re BMI blush Feel daft now. Seems a lot fairer that way. Have read about midwives telling ladies they have put too much weight on though and hence not eligible for birth centre. angry As I say, I have quite a lot of le-way, but that's the kind of thing I'd procrastinate and worry about. Haha.

jazzcat28 Mon 06-Jan-14 09:12:05

champagne I had an ok/borderline ok BMI at booking in (29) but have put on just over 15kg (33lbs) since then. Combined with my GD I am destined for labour ward. On my hospital's website it says you can use the birthing centre if you:

Are between 37-40wks when you go into labour
Are fit and healthy
Have no complications (e.g. heart problems, diabetes, high bp, low iron levels, history of blood clots)
Have a BMI <35 at booking in appointment (although my MW seemed to think <30 was the cut off)
Are not having multiple birth
Are not having a child after 4 or more previous births
Had no previous complications in labour
Don't need antibiotics for Group B Strep
Don't want an epidural

This is just my hospital though linky - probably best checking with your MW?

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 06-Jan-14 09:26:47

I'm 37+5 and midwife hasn't asked about birth plan yet. I've handwritten a short note which I've clipped in on the relevant page just giving bullet points of last birth, explaining that I very fearful and expressing the preference for a water birth if I'm coping and the fact I really do want an epidural this time if I'm not coping. Then just said I want to breastfeed ASAP after birth so pls deliver into my tummy and apart from that anything goes smile

First day of mat leave for me too but as it follows 2 weeks off it feels a bit anti-climactic wink

Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 10:15:41

Ooo sun hope everything's ok!
Another one here that had a sleepless night. Don't think there will be much chance of a nap today either.

Got midwife today to recheck bloods for iron levels again. Should hear back tomoro if they've risen enough to avoid iron infusionsmile

Also been meaning to ask, for all that have had whooping cough vaccine, has anyone still been left with a reaction? Will be 6/7 weeks today (can't remember which) since Iv had it and it is still periodically flaring up:/

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 10:16:26

I'm now exhausted. I know it'll be worse when baby is here but at least the baby will be here! I'm feeling very woeful. I wouldn't mind if the sleep before I woke up was good quality but it isn't!

Just waiting for MIL to come around, and then I'll go for a walk into town. The weather is grim but after all day on the sofa yesterday I feel the need for fresh air.

winterflowers Mon 06-Jan-14 10:25:35

Hope you get checked soon sunflowered sounds unpleasant to have got all of that so quickly.

How do you know if you need antibiotics for group b strep? I've got another rotten cold and was wondering if it could be tonsillitis, which is strep, right?

champs your LO sounds like mine - it feels like she is doing a dance on the mattress when I'm in certain positions. I tend to sleep mainly on left with a pillow between knees and leaning slightly back onto another pillow to take a bit of weight off my hips.

Hope you stayed at home jazz

marzipanned Mon 06-Jan-14 10:27:25

sunflowered that does sound a bit scary, hope you get seen quickly and all is okay.

artistic my WC vaccine only hurt for a day or so, to have it still flaring up now is a bit unusual I think! Maybe one to mention to MW next time you see her?

Thoroughly miserable day here so I am planning to stay in bed as much as possible and work on dissertation. I fell back asleep between 8-9.30 after breakfast and it was blissful!

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 10:50:54

Hope you're ok, Sunflowered.

Apparently last night was the night for sleeping badly! Another one here. My thing is when I lie down I feel all this pressure in my head/neck/chest and it feels like... something bad is going to happen, then I think I shouldn't let myself sleep feeling like that and I prop myself up with pillows which is super uncomfortable because our bed is hard. Seems to be happening most nights at the moment.

So, fairly tired and grumpy here and in need of hot chocolate. I have my monthly osteopath appt in town today so I will get one then!

Meanwhile, did anyone see that report that TB is making an alarming resurgence in London now? Joy!
I am also cross with any restaurants that put those little bowls of salt on the tables that you have to stick your fingers into during norovirus season. Very irresponsible.

Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 10:57:02

I have midwife today marzi so will mention it then. I saw another midwife a few weeks ago and mentioned it to her but she didn't really seem to know what to do about it and just wrote it in my notes but didn't actualy advise anything:/

DawnOfTheDee Mon 06-Jan-14 10:59:57

Hope you get seen quickly sun and all is ok.

I am so tired. Had a pretty standard night i.e. wake ups at 12, 2.30 and 5 but i can already feel my eyelids getting heavy now. I've got DD by myself today....feel like she's being a bit short changed as i can't move about very much and i'm being a boring mummy. We're on our second watch of 'Room on the Broom' already. Hopefully she'll have a really big nap soon so i can get some sleeeeeeep.

sunflowered Mon 06-Jan-14 11:41:33

Am seeing the midwife this afternoon so hopefully she'll be able to confirm it's just general preggo roughness my fat legs rather than anything bp related. Though after making the appt the swelling has gone down a lot so now I'm worried my bp will be high because I'll be worried about looking like there was never anything wrong...

There must have been something in the air last night - did anyone sleep well?!

Interesting to hear about different takes on birth plans. I'd been told they don't often get read/taken seriously if you put a lot of detail into them but nct lady said to ignore that. Mine's pretty much 'get healthy baby out safely, pref in birth pool with minimal intervention and minimal damage if possible'... Think dh will be adding to it after nct yesterday though (he will not be cutting the cord and might pass out if he has to get near to the action... wimp)

Tinkerbellefairy Mon 06-Jan-14 12:29:15

Sorry haven't posted in a very long time but always read.

Seems like last few weeks are resulting in lack of sleep for lots of us boo!

Sun flowered best to get checked out and don't worry about swelling starting to go down that's what mw are there for don't feel like a fraud it's a worrying time. Hope it all turns out well.

Sorry for my silly first timer questions- I really am clueless but as getting closer suddenly having lots of wobbly feelings about actually having to look after a real life baby! Silly things have been going through my head like where do I change baby nappy when in hospital? What do I do with the dirty nappies? Do you live in pj's whilst at hospital or actually make yourself look presentable? How do I actually fit everything into a small suitcase when my list for hospital bag seems to keep getting longer? How much help is on hand after giving birth regarding nappies and bf seeing as have no experience of either?

Sorry for long post but after being very calm all through pregnancy, at 36 weeks tomorrow reality is starting to dawn on me, not helped by family thinking baby will be early. On a positive note- it's officially my first day of maternity yay!

gnittinggnome Mon 06-Jan-14 12:40:15

I think I'll need to prepare several birth plans, in case of induction / spontaneous labour / c-section.... But I'm not going to put pressure on myself if I do decide I want an epidural, or something doesn't happen according to plan. Interestingly my MW at my last appt seemed a little piqued I had organised a doula, and asked me why I'd done it - I explained that all the reviews I'd read of the labour ward mentioned not having enough MWs for comfort, and we'd decided to supplement our comfort care (not medical care, just so we had an experienced person with us to help us out) with someone who would be with us for the whole thing. Then she said that as I had GD, there ought to be a nurse with me the whole time anyway, which if induced seems unlikely.... I hope the other MWs don't take exception to our doula being there - I know she's worked on this ward before, so am hoping she's got a good reputation.

Kungfubaby Mon 06-Jan-14 12:41:24

I'm with everyone else on the no sleep front - last night was particularly bad. I get the same as you julietee where I get pressure in head/chest if I lie in the same place too long. That coupled with hip pain means I'm constantly waking up needing to change position. Have tried sleeping on folded up duvet, pillows between legs and in various configurations, but nothing helps much! Had lots of jobs to do around the house today but instead I'm moping on sofa feeling sorry for myself sad.
Pram was supposed to be delivered today too but had a message to say it's been 'delayed in transit' so won't be today after all...
And I have to go to nct by myself tonight as DH can't get out of sodding work. Booooo!

Sorry for the self-indulgent post. I will eat cake and that will make it all better!

tinypolkadot Mon 06-Jan-14 12:58:47

Just when I thought we'd sorted DMs visiting for the birth (lives 4 hours away) she tells me she wants to check in to the nearest travel lodge the day before my due date! Erm, what if I go overdue?! I asked her if she would stay there for two weeks, she seems to think I'm going to give birth exactly on time.

Managed to talk her back into the original plan - coming down straight after the birth and staying for two days. She seems to think she wants to be close by when I'm in labour, but honestly I don't know what she thinks she's going to be able to do.

Just one more thing for me to stress about.

Glad your swelling has gone down sun

Feeling completely clueless about the hospital side of things, how long do they usually keep u in for if you have a straight forward birth?

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 13:03:37

Gnitting I have a doula too, I also hope they don't get arsey about it. Don't see why they should as in reality it takes pressure off staff midwives! (At least for the non medical bits) Organsing her is one of the decisions I feel properly good about, so I will not be frowned at by grumpy midwives for it.
Midwife told me at 32 week appt that we will be discussing birthplan at 36 week appt. I already know my answers to the list of questions in the notes.

Sunflowered Really hope it's just random preg swelling, but definitely best to get it checked out. Pre-e is scary!

Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 13:15:47

sad not good news, waiting on a call from the hospital to go up for iron infusion. Boo. On the plus side apparently it makes you feel better instantly which would be lovely! Eating my lunch then going to have a large helping of chocolate to boost my moodsmile

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 13:20:26

Aww, sorry to hear that Artistic. At least you'll feel less drained after the infusion, but that must be gutting to be barred from the unit for this(if indeed this means you are).

Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 13:28:51

Thanks julieteesmile yeah definately not allowed to the unit for the time being anyway, they will retest my bloods 2 weeks after the infusion to see if they've leveled atall which may change things atall.

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 13:30:41

I know this is probably no help as different bodies do different things, but I've been eating mince 2 x per week and had good readings at my last blood test.

SugarMiceInTheRain Mon 06-Jan-14 14:02:53

Sorry to hear so many of you are feeling rough. I'm sleeping badly too - no amount of squashy lovely support cushions are helping. I also get the chest pains if I lie in one position for too long - never had these in previous pregnancies! Artistic hope the iron infusion goes well and leaves you feeling better. Apparently my iron levels are really good, but I have no idea why confused

Caved and bought a cute little cardigan for baby along with my grocery shopping today - oops! Supposed to be frantically saving this month as we overspent quite a bit in December. Lots of beans on toast to eat over the next month! grin I've been mainlining breakfast cereal for some reason - just had my 3rd bowl today! Not doing well at eating sensibly generally though blush

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 14:05:42

Oh artisticme it's a shame your iron levels haven't gone up enough, but hopefully the drip will have an immediate impact

Littleen Mon 06-Jan-14 14:21:12

Welcome fedup smile

I was kept awake until 4.30 in the night, as my OH decided it was a brilliant time to catch up with Sherlock Holmes, in bed with my laptop. So knackered now, but we have given back our borrowed sofa and picked up our brand new fancy one! It's very comfy but insanely huge for our small flat! Also picked up a small, supercheap wardrobe for the baby room!

sunflowered that doesn't sound good at all, hope all is well with the swelling going down, but yes - do get it checked out!

champagne I think you just have to sleep where you want and let baby move if he/she is uncomfy! Most nights my little one moves on both sides of the bump, often at the same time (probably legs one side and bum one side, head is down) so there really is nothing I can do to make him happy! :P My friend who's got two little kids says they did the same, kicking the mattress all the time!

Julietee That sounds like how I feel when lying on my back. Had a CTG (?) thingy where they track heartbeat, and baby was not happy when I was on my back. Worth asking MW about and trying to find a different position, just in case baby gets unhappy.

artistic Good luck with the iron infusion, I'm sure it'll be worth it for the extra energy it will give you.

jazzcat28 Mon 06-Jan-14 15:07:21

artistic good luck with the iron - hope it gives you the kick start you need!

Anyone got any experience of savings accounts/bonds for baby? Already had a couple of hints from family that some small cash gifts for a savings fund might appear post-birth but I want to make sure that it goes to bean rather than in DH & I's pockets! We would like to retain financial control over it until the 16th/18th birthday but to do this would we need to open an account in our name or bean's name? Do any of you have any suggestions from past experience?

I know a friend of mine opened up something in her daughter's name and had all sorts of problems trying to change the address on it when they moved house as the bank wanted her 2yr old to write and sign a letter!

I've also started a thread in the Money section of MN here

winterflowers Mon 06-Jan-14 15:10:49

Hope the infusion is fine artistic and you get a wonderful energy burst! Fx for the mlu when it comes to it as well.

Good news about the swelling sunflowered but best still to check. Mw will be able to tell the difference between high bp from nerves and anything more ominous. Without wanting to jinx us we've been really lucky with things in this group so far - fx it continues and we all have sneeze births!

bugsyburge Mon 06-Jan-14 15:24:38

sorry everyone is having crappy times at the moment, I too had a horrendous nights sleep last night and then had to drag my ass to work this morning.... I think I'm going o regret working until 31st Jan but I must keep reminding myself to think of the money.

I'm getting a bit antsy now for one of us to go into Labour, I feel like a baby should arrive for someone soon!!!!.....I went to visit my parents in Manchester this week and I had a bit of a panic that I might go into labour and I would be far from home and not at the hospital I had planned.... I have to go to the lake district 18th Jan when I will be 36+2 and I'm sure I'll have the same neurotic panic then too!!!

ChocoFrog Mon 06-Jan-14 15:36:21

Haven't posted for weeks but I've tried to keep up with the thread. Been super busy over Christmas and New Year trying to sort out DS's new bedroom. That's all decorated and with new furniture now so I'm back at work for a rest!

Rest of house is total dumpsite though and the nursery is full of boxes and rubbish from what was the spare room. No bag packed, no birth plan written, still baby stuff to get and so much to do. Really quite stressed about it and my DH is oblivious to it all. Also getting the annoyance rage that others have talked about. Snapping at anyone who dares to breathe in an annoying way!

8 days of work left. Finish on 22nd and can't wait. Mostly twiddling thumbs now and trying to find bits to do when all I can think about are all the important things I could be getting done at home...

Hope all goes well Artistic and Sunflowered and you're feeling better soon.

35+5 and praying it doesn't arrive anytime soon as so not ready confused

ch1134 Mon 06-Jan-14 15:41:05

Hello again.
It's been a while. Work got very busy before Christmas and then Christmas was busy and now, finally I can breathe! I am 37 weeks today, so officially full term! My ML starts today (although as a teacher I've just had 2 weeks holiday), and it's the last day of Christmas! I'm having a great day - NHS antenatal class was great, then a swim, now chilling at home.
I do not yet have my bag packed! A job for later today/ tomorrow. I feel like like only now do I finally have a chance to focus on the baby. We've still got to decorate and do its room - currently no heating in there so can't pant until that's sorted, but do have electrician and carpet fitters coming later this week so we're on our way.
Everyone I speak to seems to think i should be fed up with pregnancy by now and anxious for the baby to hurry up. But I've had such an easy pregnancy (sorry!) - no sickness, heartburn, constipation - I'm even sleeping well... and my appetite is normal. I'm sure having a baby will be harder than this and I'd really like to be a bit more prepared before it comes!
Got our pram - Quinny Buzz as we plan on lots of walking. Done NCT (wouldn't recommend) and now started NHS classes. Tour of the maternity unit tonight. Just loads of DIY to do...
Hope you're all well

LovesToBake Mon 06-Jan-14 16:00:28

Sorry to hear about all the problems people are experiencing with sleep at the moment. I think I'm quite lucky that aside from a couple of loo trips, I generally manage to sleep fairly well, although DS was coughing from 5am this morning so feeling pretty tired now. Today is the first day of what feels like proper maternity leave (although am officially on annual leave until 3rd Feb) as DH as work, DS in nursery and I've had a day to myself. Had grand plans of being super productive but all I've managed is a quick hoover downstairs, a trip to the midwife (34 week check), lunch, a nap and packing my hospital bag. Somehow it felt so much easier packing it this time around because I'm hoping I won't need it as planning a home birth, so was able to pack pretty light making sure I've got the essentials in there. We live really close to the hospital so I figured if I do end up being transferred in and I have to stay in for any period, DH can drop more supplies over to me.

I'm envious of all of you who are hitting 37 weeks. I really want to fast forward the next few weeks and get on with it now. Dug out all of DS' newborn, 0-3 and 3-6 month clothes over the weekend and did a big wash so the baby now has clothes, although I'm realising that there's a lot of blue so she won't be looking overly girly! Hoping we might get a few gifts of newborn girl clothes (but nothing too pink!) - didn't think I'd be that bothered but as we get closer it suddenly seems to matter!

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 16:05:12

Thanks Jazz - the list criteria sounds similar to mine, except it doesn't say BMI at booking!

Winter - it's so hard to find a comfy position, I tell you!

Littleen - I wish I could just lie how I wanted, but the LO boots me until I move waking me up, and then I think, yah, maybe I'm cutting off some kind of blood supply or something....and you guessed it...I'm wide awake again! grin

Jazz - my parents are looking at savings - I think they saw something at NS&I - but you need baby's birth certificate to open it. Once you've got that then you can start the account.

Ch1134 - out of interest, why wouldn't you recommend NCT? We went to one NHS class and it was good actually, NCT starts tomorrow for us.

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 16:08:29

Loves I'm kinda with you there. I want it to go quickly now....I'm exhausted, and it would better to be exhausted for a reason! I kinda am scared though, but anxious to get a move on - all mixed into one. I just wish the LO was in the right position so I can park the thoughts of c-section for the moment and feel excited to start the waiting game!

ch1134 Mon 06-Jan-14 16:09:08

NCT was not exactly disastrous but if you're on a budget I'd say don't bother.

For me it was too much of a time commitment - 18 hours and very slow. I didn't feel I learnt a lot, and it was quite expensive. Comparing the classes to the NHS one I did today, the NHS one was much quicker paced and more informative. I just found in the NCT ones there was quite a lot of chat about not very much...

sunflowered Mon 06-Jan-14 16:12:01

Verdict is in... Almost certainly pre-eclampsia sad Hopefully they'll be able to get bp down with medication (now 160/105 and rising confused ) and it'll just mean regular clinic visits until as close to edd as possible, but need to wait for blood tests to come back before they can decide. It was all going so well... They put the bump on a monitor for a while though and it was kicking away happily.

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 16:15:36

Oh sunflowered I'm really sorry to hear that thanks brew thanks I hope the medication works and they do keep a close eye on you and baby.

ch1134 Mon 06-Jan-14 16:33:17

Hope it all goes well sunflowered. Good job they've picked it up and you're being monitored.

Does anyone know what I have to do to get my free change bag from Boots? I've tried to join the parenting club using their little machines in store, and just now online, but there's no confirmation of it. Do I just go in and ask?

DawnOfTheDee Mon 06-Jan-14 16:37:59

Oh sorry to hear that sun but at least you know what it is and they can get it under control.

jazz I opened a children's saver account for DD shortly after she was born. Check out moneysavingexpert for the best rates/deals. You'll need their birth certificate and your own id. I think ours is set up so she can't withdraw money without my signiture until 16/18. It's really worth doing if you have a baby early in the year - DD got loads of toys for christmas so a few family members (including us) would rather give some money for her birthday rather than more pressies for the sake of it.

Tinker In hospital I changed DD in her cot or on the bed so you just stay in your own cubicle. Each section of the post natal ward had a 'station' where there were a few supplies and you could get warm water, etc. There's a bin for nappies too!

I lived in my pj's - but i did have a section so getting changed, etc was a lot more difficult for me. From what i remember most people were in pj's or lounge-type wear.

My 'one' bag was actually several....there was a lot of crap around my cubicle! As long as it's not in the mw's way no-one seemed to mind.

I have my second GTT test tomorrow as they found trace of sugar in my urine when i was last at the docs. I still think i'm fine but not sure how much they can do now as i'll be 38 weeks on friday! Oh well, a quiet morning with my kindle doesn't sound too bad (and i quite liked the cough syrupy drink last time!)

DawnOfTheDee Mon 06-Jan-14 16:39:35

ch144 They send you a voucher which you then have to take into store and exchange for a bag. If you joined online did you get a confirmation email or can you log in to their website? Hopefully it should get sent to you soon.

marzipanned Mon 06-Jan-14 16:41:19

Oh sunflowered what a shame. flowers At least you know about it and they are going to be keeping a very close eye on you. And if the worst comes to the worst and you have to be induced early, you are past the point of concern. How are you feeling about it all?

jazz thanks for starting that thread, am going to hop over and have a look at it now. Basically I want the most tax efficient savings plan possible! Will probably do a children's ISA plus some other form of savings.

Re NCT v NHS. I didn't do the NHS classes as thought it would be doubling up, and wanted to do NCT more to meet people than to learn anything. In that regard it was successful - met some lovely couples, we've already had one get together and another is planned for this weekend. I didn't feel that I learned much, and the agenda frustrated me - even though I am on the side of ideally wanting minimal intervention in labour, being able to EBF, etc, I felt VERY preached to and there wasn't much info on what happens if you can't do everything au naturel. The BF class in particular was irritating because the teacher just kept saying "it shouldn't hurt, don't let anyone give your baby formula even if their weight is dropping..." this doesn't sound remotely realistic from what I've read here!

For that reason I think I have learned way more from being on this thread than I did from NCT classes, but since you all live miles and miles away from me so we can't support each other in person, I'm very glad I did them anyway. smile

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 16:54:04

Sorry, Sunflowered. At least you did the sensible thing and caught it straight away thanks

Feeling pretty grumpy and sorry for myself as I had yet another unsuccessful walk. My bump goes hard and stays hard whilst walking, and it just keeps getting too uncomfortable/ puffy/ tight half way through. I had to walk home at snails pace and would have been very grateful for a lift.
I just don't think I should be feeling this decrepit at 33 weeks and don't know why things are feeling so uncomfortable. sad

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 16:56:43

julietee my bump goes hard when I walk/stand/baby moves lots. According to mw it's braxton hicks so all good, although bloody uncomfortable! I find slowing down helps, or just sitting for a few minutes.

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 17:12:48

Eeyore Yeah, I figured either BH or stomach muscles. Just weird that it stays hard for so damn long while I'm walking.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 06-Jan-14 17:13:34

Sorry to hear about the diagnosis Sunflowered, but its so good that they are aware of it and can keep a close eye on you.

sunflowered Mon 06-Jan-14 17:14:53

Now talking about a baby this week or next depending on how I respond to drugs. not allowed home from hospital, don't even have a bag packed (that was this week's job, am only 33+2) so writing dh a packing list. Active birth out of the window - will be full on monitoring and possibly cs. Feeling very scared now and not prepared at all sad

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 06-Jan-14 17:19:03

Oh gosh sunflowered, keep us posted. Try not to be scared x

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 17:22:00

Sunflowered firsly <hugs> sorry to hear about your day.

I can imagine that everything is going fast and that's bound to be scary - it's not the same, but when I realised baby was breech and saw that a c-section was a possibility I started feeling out of control. That was until someone said something very true - all that matters is that baby arrives healthy and happy. Anything else doesn't really matter. It's true really. We're also not that far away from EDD's now too. Hope you're ok. It's good that they know what it is and they are looking after you. flowers

misskatamari Mon 06-Jan-14 17:23:19

Sorry you've found your nct classes a disappointment Ch - I think it seems to really depend on where you are as ours were great. I think we were lucky that the lady running ours was a student midwife so we seemed to get a balanced view of what to expect from labour and different interventions etc. We were lucky to have a good group too and it was great to meet people in the same position as us who are local.

Sunflowered - so sorry to hear your news but fingers crossed they can manage it. Atleast they have caught it early as others have said!

Julie - I get hard bump too. Not had it for a few days but some afternoons/evenings it is rock hard and so uncomfortable. Nothing seems to really help it and it eventually seems to calm down.

I'm another one who's tired today. I seemed to have quite a lot of energy last week but the past few days I've been knackered and nodding off in the afternoons. Hoping for nesting energy to kick in soon! Time for a raspberry tea and last nights Sherlock grin

DawnOfTheDee Mon 06-Jan-14 17:23:35

Oh wow sun that's moved fast. So sorry to hear you're now in hospital. Hope you respond to the drugs well as that baby can bake a wee while longer.

I wanted an active birth with DD but ended up on full monitoring (then a cs but for very different reasons). Once i'd accepted that it was actually all fine and i honestly enjoyed it.

Keep in touch....we're all here for you x

Poppy954 Mon 06-Jan-14 17:24:52

Thinking of you sunflowered.

misskatamari Mon 06-Jan-14 17:26:14

Oh gosh, x-post sunflowered.

Try not to worry, I know it must be really hard, especially as things are happening much faster than you had been expecting. As Eeyore says though the most important thing is keeping you and baby healthy. Big hugs xxx

winterflowers Mon 06-Jan-14 17:33:04

Hugs sunflowered it sounds rubbish but so good you did go and get it all checked out and that LO is doing ok. Bp drugs can be super effective so fx they start to kick in and yiu can be monitored from home.

I have the hard bump when I walk as well, although haven't been doing much of that lately...

Have only had one nct class so far and it was fun but didn't feel I'd learnt much, hopefully will pick up and they'll tell me what the hell to do with a baby once I get to take her home...

jazzcat28 Mon 06-Jan-14 17:38:53

sunflowered just try to keep in mind the positives - you've detected the pre-eclampsia early, you are in the best place possible for you and baby, and you get to meet your baby in a matter of days! I know you're scared but they are pretty amazing positives (very jealous of you meeting bubba soon). Thoughts with you and your DH flowers

Sassy20 Mon 06-Jan-14 17:42:12

Sunflowered sorry to hear about you having to stay in hospital now but you're in the best place. Glad to hear baby's ok and that they're holding off as long as possible before delivering. Take care and keep us updated. thanks X

marzipanned Mon 06-Jan-14 17:58:04

Sunflowered can only imagine all the things running through your hard and how fast it is all going. I'd echo the positives jazz has said, and remember all the ladies on this thread (like Dawn) who've ended up having monitoring/CS and have had really positive experiences. Also a bit jealous of you meeting little one soon smile

gnittinggnome Mon 06-Jan-14 18:00:17

sunflowered you're in the best possible place for your health and for your LO, so whilst it all seems a bit scary, you'll be fine! Glad they caught it and are taking care of it now. You might be the first one to have your baby home!

Lots and lots of hugs and thanks

laura0007 Mon 06-Jan-14 18:22:12

Sending lots of hugs sun! If it makes it any easier my bosses friend was due 6 days before me and had her baby last week via emergency cs due to pre eclampsia. She literally went to the doctors and he sent her straight up to the hospital for a section it was that bad so at least they've caught yours earlyish and you've time to prepare yourself. Her baby is absolutely fine weighed 5lb2, just a bit jaundice. It's amazing how big they are inside us now!

Julietee Mon 06-Jan-14 18:24:59

Sun This must all feel so overwhelming. Thinking of you and sending you calm and supported vibes. Remember they're pretty much good from 34 weeks! xxxx

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 18:26:46

sunflowered you're in the right place, it's good they're really keeping an eye on you and baby. I hope you respond to the drugs, and your DH puts the right things in your bag.

hugs thanks thanks thanks x

Littleen Mon 06-Jan-14 18:37:22

Lots happening since I checked last night!

Chocofrog You have my sympathy! We are not organised or ready either, in any way at all! No bag packed or even list made, still got furniture to build in nursery and cotbed to paint, and so on. Can't find my hypnobirthing book after we moved either, but on the plus side, we got a mattress today :P It's a start I guess!

Champagne It can be pretty awkward :P Mine just tends to kick at both sides at the same time, or swap sides within 5 minutes of me turning. Luckily only for half hour or so in the night, and for a while when I first go to bed in the evening smile

sunflowered sorry to hear about the pre-eclampsia and everything, try to relax if you can and just look after yourself and baby. Hopefully they won't need to get labour started this soon, so you have time to prepare a bit more! If it helps, my midwife says that doctors are not worried about babies born after 32 weeks but before 37, even though they are not quite finished. Keep us posted xx

Makes me think of sorting out my bag asap, I'm 33+1 as I'm just a day behind!

Littleen Mon 06-Jan-14 18:42:29

Just on a lighter note for the cat-fans amongst us; This one got a nice little game:



Thingymajigs Mon 06-Jan-14 18:53:13

Sorry to hear about the pre eclampsia sun. You must be feeling so overwhelmed and under prepared. I'm really glad it was spotted before it got any worse and you really are in the best place even though it wasn't what you had hoped. You get to meet your baby soon! smile Good luck with everything and keep us posted when you can. x
This gave me a push to pack my bag today at 36 weeks although I think I'll be going over the EDD.
Fingers crossed for a full nights sleep for all of us tonight.

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 18:56:08

Oh Thingy I really hope so, I'm exhausted!!! hmm

rueyrichardson Mon 06-Jan-14 19:19:19

Sunflowered, will be thinking of you . Thankfully you caught it and I am sure you will be really well looked after x

ChocoFrog Mon 06-Jan-14 19:24:46

Sunflowered hope you're okay and everyone is right when they say think of all the positives. It's a shock but you'll have a beautiful baby soon so yay! Thinking of you though and off to pack my bag right now...

Littleen Mon 06-Jan-14 19:35:30

Sorry to ask, seeing as so many have been posted before, but I can't find the bag lists! Please can someone post one again? smile

notoneforselfies Mon 06-Jan-14 19:47:54

Here's mine littleen:

nighties with poppers on front x 2
giant pants I can bin
flip flops
lightweight dressing gown
warm socks

ear plugs
face cleansing wipes
evian face spray
shampoo and conditioner
unscented sensitive shower gel
massage oil
face cloth/flannel
hair bobbles
lip balm/8 hour cream
hair brush
face moisturiser
body moisturiser
basic make up (mascara and powder)
toothbrush and paste
pregnancy pillow

maternity pads
breast pads
lanisoh nipple cream
mama bottom spray
tucks pads
hot water bottle?
jug/squirty bottle

nappy sacks
water wipes
cotton wool
baby bottom balm
cellular blanket
swaddle muslin
2 x small muslins
2 x newborn babygro
2 x larger babygro
3 x short sleeve vest
3 x long sleeve vest

spare babygros (for car)
spare nappies (for car)
car seat with cosytoes
snow suit

Maternity notes and birth plan
notebook and pen
sports bottle for water
camera and charger
phones and charger
kindle or puzzle book
change for car park and vending machines
tin of chocolates for midwives
frozen water
frozen juice

going home clothes for me (poss what go into hospital in plus clean t-shirt)
change of tshirt and pants for DH
list of people to call and text

notoneforselfies Mon 06-Jan-14 19:48:48

thinking of you sunflowered - keep us posted... x

misskatamari Mon 06-Jan-14 19:51:27

This is mine Littleen - It's a bit long, and has my hippy hypnobirthing stuff on it too...

For birth

Old nightshirt
Tankini (water birth)
Massage balls
Tens machine?
Aromatherapy oils
Rescue remedy
Eye mask
Hair clips
Sports bottle for drinks
Straws (drinks and breathing)
Speakers and charger
Music on phone:
•Hypno/relaxtion tracks
•Relaxation music
•Playlist of nice songs
•Electric tea lights/fairy lights (at home)
Flannels (one in freezer at home)
Visualisation pictures (opening rose cervix etc)
Blue tac
Blue ribbons
Hypnobirthing sign
Birth preference sheet

For after

Nightshirts x2 – buttons on front
Cheap big cotton pants
Maternity towels
Breast pads
Nursing bras x2
Dressing gown
Comfy stretchy clothes
•maternity gym trousers and leggings
•comfy tshirts (buttons on front?)
Bath towel (x2 water birth?)
Hand towel

Toiletries –
hair brush
shower gel
hand cream
Make up
Distilled witch hazel

•Puzzle books and pen/easy to read books/magazines/headphones/kindle/note pad

V Pillow
Bed pillow
Own blanket?

For baby:

Baby vests x3 (newborn + 0-3 in car)
babygrows x3 (newborn + 0-3 in car)
scratch mitts/socks
Baby bath towel
2 tupperwares instead of top and tail bowl
Baby wipes
Cotton wool
Baby blanket
Nappies (10)
Car seat

For Dad

Change of clothes
Swimming trunks
Laminated prompt cards for labour
Hypnobirthing scripts
PS Vita

Snacks and drinks
peppermint teabags
flapjacks (oats are great for milk production)
nuts and dried fruit
cereal bars
nakd bars
coconut water
sports drinks
fruit juice
lots of water and ice bottle
Pepsi max

misskatamari Mon 06-Jan-14 19:52:15

which reminds me i need to order the bloody tens machine!!!!

EeyoreIsh Mon 06-Jan-14 19:58:54

Your list missk has reminded me that waitrose currently have nakd bars on offer, and some of them contain dates smile

Unplastered Mon 06-Jan-14 20:06:04

Echoing what everyone else has already said sunflowered. Thinking of you!

sunflowered Mon 06-Jan-14 20:08:00

Thanks for all your messages and thanks . Bp gone down a bit and blood results are ok so might not have to resort to an early induction. Told the dr that if it comes to it my main priority is healthy and safe however necessary (though 'with minimal damage and poking if possible' did get whispered as she left the room).

In the meantime keep packing those bags (and don't go anywhere near a midwife without them - even for a 'quick bp test for reassurance'...)

In other news, missed supper while changing wards so all I got was a sandwich. I'm starving and already sent dh home when I realised so nobody to send out for biscuit or cake. Or toothpaste, makeup and pj's. I'm going to look gorgeous when all those nice young drs come round in the morning.

Sassy20 Mon 06-Jan-14 20:14:12

Glad it's all a bit more positive now Sunflowered. How annoying that you missed dinner though! X

marzipanned Mon 06-Jan-14 20:28:47

Ah, that is good news sunflowered. Buzz for some toast - I got some in EPU at 4am when I was finally up to eating again!

Champagnebubble Mon 06-Jan-14 20:44:30

Definitely buzz for something Sunflowered, you can't go without food. Who knows they may also be able to get hold of some toothpaste for you too? Hope you're bearing up and OK. thanks

Poppy954 Mon 06-Jan-14 20:45:50

Good news sunflowered.

Those hospital bag lists just reminded me of my dream last night. I dreamt that I was thinking I must remember to tell the first time mums that they don't need to take the car seat into the hospital when they go in. Just to leave it in the car and get their husband to bring it in when he comes to pick them up!

So if you have been trying to squeeze your car seat into your overnight bag you can now breath a sigh of relief with that really useful advice!! I'm even boring myself in my dreams now.

SugarMiceInTheRain Mon 06-Jan-14 20:58:34

Thinking of you Sunflowered. They should be able to at least get you a sandwich and a drink (they did for me when I missed dinner due to being in recovery after c-section) They sometimes have basic toiletries. nightshirts, mesh pants etc available too for those who unexpectedly have to stay overnight. grin

misskatamari Mon 06-Jan-14 21:17:02

Glad you're doing okay sunflowered. I hope you manage to get some more food!

Oh my god the third lady from my nct class has just had her baby!!!

winterflowers Mon 06-Jan-14 21:20:49

Woop sunflowered that sounds positive so far fx it continues and DEFINITELY call someone to give you some food!

I'm due the first in my nct class by a week, and a month ahead.of some. Will not be impressed if someone overtakes me!

Thanks for the advice poppy saves me lots.of bag space ;)

LovesToBake Mon 06-Jan-14 21:26:24

Just catching up on a busy afternoon of posts - Sunflowered sending thanks your way and very glad to hear the bp has come down a bit and you might not need to be induced so soon. Echoing what others have said, your instincts were clearly spot on going to get checked today and hopefully having caught it nice and early and being in the best possible place for monitoring, everything will pan out for the best for you and the little one. Can imagine what a shock it must have been though. Feeling glad I packed my hospital bag today. Poor you being stuck without food or toothpaste or PJs. Are you on a ward with other preggos?

LittlePandaBear Mon 06-Jan-14 22:02:01

A busy day of posts!

Sunflowered - will be thinking of you and hope all is well in hospital. As long as they do whatever is best for you and baby then that's the main thing. To be honest I don't think any of us will be completely prepared even at 40 weeks - there is so much to think/worry about and so much unknown, even if we've done this before!

Keep us posted xx

Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 22:17:57

Hope you feel much better soon sun. Glad everything is looking a bit more positive. Hope you've been able to get some good toosmile xx

Unplastered Mon 06-Jan-14 22:21:28

That's good news sunflowered, fx for continued improvement. Definitely ask for something to eat, they should take pity on you!

I have pretty much packed my bags today - I found a small wheelie case that I've put all baby's things in, my stuff is still just a huge pile as I've got no bag to put it in... Carrier bags might have to do!


Artisticme Mon 06-Jan-14 22:21:28

And forgot to say thankyou to everyone for the messagessmile still waiting to hear back about my plan of care but at the moment sounds like I won't be getting my IV until next week because there's no appointmentssad bit disappointing as I was looking forward to my sudden energy boost!! Haha

CubanoHabana Mon 06-Jan-14 22:24:42

Good news about bp sunflowered, hope it keeps coming down!

Ch11 whereabouts are you again? Wish I finished teaching today bit alas no :-(

No sleep for me and mucho pain today after first day back at school... Fingers crossed tomorrow is better, although full teaching day tues and wed and then parents evening!

Littleen Mon 06-Jan-14 22:52:43

Thanks for the lists, girls! Sounds about the same as mine, though I will be staying in 2-3 days. But we only live 30 mins from the hospital so np sending my OH home to pick up stuff smile

sunflowered glad to hear bloodpressure have gone down a bit, I will attempt to summon a slice of cake for you with the power of my mind! x

Spurred in to action, I've now written my bag list, got out all the baby stuff and clothes (still no sign of my hypnobirthing book and cd sad )
and have just started my fairly vague birthplan! Will I seem weird to not want to see placenta or anything else remotely gross? hmm I'm just not keen on strange things coming out of my body..

glitterhoops Mon 06-Jan-14 23:01:57

Hi I thought I'd join this thread, I'm 33 weeks today and very much looking forward to mid Feb when I have an ECS planned : )

Re NCT - if you on a low wage and or in receipt of WTC the course is massively reduced - Im not sure of the current criteria, it was 3 years ago now I did mine so may had chained a bit, but worth looking into. The actual course was rubbish (I am sure there are good ones, but my local teacher was not so good) but it was invaluable for the local friends I made and of course we all shared such an important part of our lives together - our first baby!

There are a few things I wish I had taken to hospital with me for the first birth, they are:
-an eye mask - its too bright in there to sleep properly
-ear plugs - ok this is debatable as you need to be able to hear your own baby cry - however babies cries go through anything. The ear plugs just take the edge off the other 20 odd babies screams.
-a spagetti strapped vest that you wear under your PJ/T-shirt top which you pull down then your t-shirt covers the top of your chest - if you have a CS of birth complications they'll force you to have your curtain open - its not so much trying to establish breastfeeding with a load of strangers being able to peer at you. Alternatively you could just have a really big t-shirt and put the baby down your top so they are completely skin to skin.

DawnOfTheDee Tue 07-Jan-14 03:28:20

Am I the only one with pg insomnia tonight? Woke up at 2 and still awake sad I still have a bit of a cold/sore throat. And my back hurts. Nothing major just getting fed up. I can't remember what it's like to just be well, to move around freely. Feel like i'm moaning all the time. Blurgh.

Rant/moan over.

marzipanned Tue 07-Jan-14 03:39:43

Hi glitter.

I'm up dawn...no reason at all, just can't sleep. Possibly worrying about MW appt later today as pretty sure that after all the positive talk of babies turning yday, mine turned herself breech when I got into bed last night..

EeyoreIsh Tue 07-Jan-14 03:42:03

I'm awake too sad it's the same every night/morning, I'm so tired but can't sleep. It makes me want to cry with frustration.

DawnOfTheDee Tue 07-Jan-14 03:58:04

They say misery loves company!

Fx your baby is head down tomorrow marzi. I'm not sure what mine's up to.....has been head down so far but bump has now definitely dropped and i'm getting kicks/pokes at both sides of my tummy so i'm worried she's gone transverse. I see the mw on wednesday though so not too long to wait.

Totally hear the tired but not sleepy vibe eeyore.....then when i have to be up I'm so knackered i'm almost falling asleep every time i blink. And if one more person tells me it's 'practice' for when the baby is born I shall rip my arm off and beat them with the soggy end.

Final bit of moan - GTT in the morning so i a) have to be up probably at the time by body's given in and it actually letting me sleep and b) am not allowed to eat anything right now. Grrrr.....

DawnOfTheDee Tue 07-Jan-14 04:00:16

Oh and hi glitter....welcome to the thread. I'm usually a lot jollier I promise smile

marzipanned Tue 07-Jan-14 04:28:02

Thanks dawn. Bloody GTT. I'm hungry but too cosy in bed to go downstairs so munching my way through a tube of polos I found in bedside drawer. Small comforts...

ch1134 Tue 07-Jan-14 04:46:26

You're not the only one dawn! I spoke too soon yesterday saying I was sleeping fine! Been awake since 1am so given up and had breakfast now - might put on a film...
Just got so much whizzing about my head. I guess I have the headspace now has finished and Christmas is over. Worrying about the house not being ready. I really hope baby can wait a few more weeks, then the bedrooms should be ready... carpet fitters and electricians coming this week but only for estimates. i hope they're able to do the work soon! And then I'll need a plumber as no heating in baby room...
Making me think of sunflowered and how hard it must be to feel not ready, and worrying if baby is ready. Hope all goes well for you.
CubanoHavana - how much more teaching for you? I'm in Gloucestershire.

Champagnebubble Tue 07-Jan-14 07:00:40

Good luck for today Marzi, I think I'm in the same situation tbh! Sometimes I think she has moved and then last night I know she hasn't as I'm still getting nudges in both side of the bump so it feels like she is transverse and makes it hard to sleep. I have resorted to sleeping sitting up sad.

Another who slept badly. I keep getting hard bump which lasts ages and cramps. Last night I felt sick too. That's in addition to the weird sleeping positions. Feel OK now, just knackered.

I am seriously counting days now! Dawn, I'm with you there about people saying 'oh you're body is getting you used to having a baby due to lack of sleep'. No it isn't. My body wants me to sleep, it's just factors are stopping me. angry

Sunflowered hope you had an OK night and BP continues to drop.

Welcome newbies grin