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April 2014 Thread 4 - We're almost in Trimester 3!

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LeeHandy Wed 04-Dec-13 20:26:51

Here's to fantastic 20 week scans, feeling baby move and other exciting milestones and best of all, the end of sickness!

prettyinpink90 Wed 04-Dec-13 21:09:04

Marking my place smile


Imnotsurehowtogetthisout Wed 04-Dec-13 21:24:49

I'm here too smile.
My nausea is slowly getting better, just a bit in the evening and after breakfast. Had my first consultant appt this week due to a cyst but just really said they will keep an eye on it and scan again at 30 ish weeks. Don't think it has moved me out of low risk but didn't really ask that. Feeling baby move quite a lot now which is nice.
Hope everyone else is ok.

Cannotbelieveit Wed 04-Dec-13 23:07:24

Marking my place too! Scan tomorrow at 11.10am

catameringue Thu 05-Dec-13 06:45:55


Nausea nearly all gone for me but vomiting heavily one day every 2 weeks. Causing pressure on my job but my manager has cut my workload a little.

Food smells more normal and I can go to the shops or stand in the kitchen without it smelling like a rubbish tip.


BeansAndCheese Thu 05-Dec-13 07:55:20

I am having trouble sleeping too. I think this is more because I have a number of things going on at the minute. Dh, who has been unwell but was getting much better , has had a relapse. Got some hip and back pain which got really bad yesterday after a exercise class. I have to give up the classes now, which is sad because they make me feel better generally. Was on for a good nights sleep last night, until dd kicked her quilt off and I had to go wrap her up. I shouldn't moan, but I'm knackered this morning.


Vikkijayne2507 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:07:58

Im here still smile my sleep has gone to sh+t. I find it hard to doze off and mornings are horredous and it doesnt help im waking in the night to use the loo, It almost feels like my body is trying to prepare me for the sleepness nights to come.

Ooo good luck with your scan cannot very exciting. I am glad in portugal they have 3 normal scans rather than our 2 so im hoping they will do another scan when I get there just as I want to see baby when hes a bit bigger smile

badfurday Thu 05-Dec-13 10:02:46

LeeHandy - Im completely with you on the sleeping thing (your last post previous thread) I seem to sleep from 10 - 2 fine and then wide awake for 1-2 hours then when my alarm goes off all I want to do is sleep! For me its not being able to get comfy, I'd love to sleep on my tummy but it hurts. Im really thinking about buying one of those overly priced long pillow things. And if one more persons says " its preparing you for a new born" I will swing for them. Grrrr.

Trinpy Thu 05-Dec-13 15:27:26

Sorry to hear everyones so sick/tired/miserable. I'm seriously considering deleting the pregnancy app on my phone if I tells me one more time that I'm 'probably feeling pretty good by now'. Lovely to see 3rd trimester in the thread title though - means it's nearly over grin .

Hope the scan went well today, cannot.


LeeHandy Thu 05-Dec-13 21:58:58

Trinpy We are more than half way there! smile My bump is growing everyday and I'm getting a little concerned about maternity clothes and having to buy more stuff!

I hope your scan went well, Cannot!

LightTripper Thu 05-Dec-13 22:40:14

Just checking in to the new thread! 20 week scan first thing. Wish me luck!

LT xx

bundaberg Thu 05-Dec-13 22:48:20

Hi all! lovely new thread :-D

had my scan today and we're expecting... drumroll...... a boy!

so... 4 little boys grin i'm so excited

19+4 today. 20 week scan next Thursday! smile

prettyinpink90 Fri 06-Dec-13 09:13:13

Good luck with your scan today light smile

My bump seems to have popped out all of a sudden, although I probably still look more 'too much cake cake' than pregnant.

Have been feeling movement but she's been a tad quiet the past few days. Trying not to worry myself too much as know they are still small enough to hide.

21 weeks today!

badfurday Fri 06-Dec-13 11:25:18

23 weeks today and its my birthday, hurrah, but stuck at work and husband working tonight and all weekend.

Trinpy Fri 06-Dec-13 12:11:21

Happy Birthday badfurday!!!!!! thanks thanks thanks

Congratulations on finding out you're having a boy bunda.

Light - hope your scan went well!!!

I'm also 23 weeks today and counting down every minute wink .

springfling Fri 06-Dec-13 16:52:56

Hi everyone, just saying hello!
23 + 3

LeeHandy Fri 06-Dec-13 18:17:54

happy birthday badfurday!! let me know if the pillow works, I tried a regular pillow for a couple of days and it did feel more comfortable to sleep but it got in the way and I found it quite annoying.
my most comfortable position to sleep is on my back but my bump is big enough to stop circulation so a couple of times have woken up in the night with pins and needles and stiffness.
hope your scan went well light! congratulations on the boy bunda! the blue streak continues! grin

wendle70 Fri 06-Dec-13 18:57:38

Hope the scans went well cannot , moomin and light..marking my place too. Bought my first thing for the baby today - the cutest stripy babygro. I keep looking at the feet on it...so cute!!
I too am waking up once in the night for the loo but have done pretty much from the start. Urgh. Also uncomfortable sleeping - my back is best too but then I get worried about circulation...had a complete freak out yesterday after I ate some home made lemon tart on day 4 in the fridge. Happy birthday badfurday! Hi springfling!

Ps pretty my bump has totally popped out in the last fortnight. I think I have put on a bit more than I should..I googled it. I have put on 12 pounds and am 20 weeks. It's juuust about OK but on the high side. Reading some forums, some women at this stage have just put on 4 pounds or so....??! Also got myself into a paddy about stretchmarks which apparently appear after week 28/32...but there's nowt you can really do (although am optimistically trying the cocoa butter).

Have lovely weekends ladies

Cannotbelieveit Fri 06-Dec-13 19:43:02

Scan was ace yesterday and little man was still a little man flashing his bits at us!!!

grin 19+6

LightTripper Sat 07-Dec-13 08:35:15

Hello everyone! Scan was lovely. Had a different sonographer to last time but equally fab. Does anybody else really want to do a career change and become a sonographer now?!?

Anyway, was amazed by the detail! She all seems to be present and correct as far as they can tell and they were happy with all the measurements. To begin with she was basically doing the plough, with her feet right over her head! Had to go for a coffee in the middle to encourage her to move around so the sonographer could see her spine and kidneys better. Came back after 20 minutes and she was in exactly the same position. Either a bit stubborn (like me) or very good at sleeping through a commotion (also like me)! Anyway, luckily when the sonographer started to probe again she did move just in the nick of time!

Am meeting some school friends today, most of whom I haven't seen so don't know my news. Already made one cry (I am the last of my school friends to have kids by a long way, so I suspect some of them thought I would never get there smile), and am quite looking forward to telling the others who don't know. Probably my last chance to surprise people with my news!!!

Hope you all have lovely weekends.

LT xx

Trinpy Sat 07-Dec-13 14:33:41

Glad to hear the scans went well Cannot and Light! Even if baby Light was being a bit stubborn!

Everytime I go for a scan I think I would love to be a sonographer and then remember all the not so amazing parts, like finding abnormalities or the non baby-related scans. Plus the pressure to not miss something or get the sex wrong!

Hope you're all having a good weekend!


LightTripper Sun 08-Dec-13 08:58:03

Yes that's true, I'm sure sonography is difficult emotionally as well as technically. But if you are kind you can make such a difference to people, even if they are having a terrible time. When my sister had her mmc I know the kindness of the sonographer was something she really valued.

Certainly makes my job look a bit pointless, at the very least!

LT 20+4 (more than half way, woo hoo!)

BlessedAssurance Sun 08-Dec-13 11:48:48

Just checking in to the new thread. Lee I am having trouble sleeping as well. Normally around the same time as you. But in my case it might be because after standing for 7hrs at work when I am home i take to my bed at 7.30pm[embarrassed] Hope you will soon be getting more and much needed sleep.
Congratulations to you all who have been to their skins and hey how to our babies kicking the daylights out of us. I am just fed up with the pregnancy jokes and the name calling from my workplace. They think it's funny and I play along with them but not so into it.
Now considering career move and become a sonographergrin

BlessedAssurance Sun 08-Dec-13 11:51:24

Damn you Ipad. To all who have been to their appointments for skan not skin

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 08-Dec-13 17:32:49

glad scans went well all. I had a baby shower yesterday as im leaving uk at end of month we had a right laugh playing games eating cake and drinking non alcoholic wine I haven't had any wine since found out pregnant and it felt naughty got a few little gifts a nappy cake no actual cake just real nappies in a cake shape. a cute dinosaur onesie baby bath stuff and played very silly games like bottle bowling dummy bobbing design a baby grow pin the dummy on the baby etc. my best friend is so awesome

Misty9 Mon 09-Dec-13 19:21:03

Hi all, glad scans are going well. My SPD has really ramped up in the last couple of days and it now hurts to drive as well as walk sad laid up on the sofa while my amazing dh does most of childcare/house jobs. Good job I finish work after Christmas, though not sure how I'll run around after 2.3yo ds instead... Pregnancy and my body really don't get on!

Misty9 Mon 09-Dec-13 19:21:31

Argh, forgot as usual - 22+3

LightTripper Tue 10-Dec-13 07:53:35

Aaahhhh! Saw the physio yesterday and she tried massaging a different place, as I hadn't had any relief from last week's attempt. Quite uncomfortable (I was very knotted), but this morning I woke up with my alarm, instead of at 5am in pain, for the first time since I put my back out. Soooo nice! Baby light seems quite dancey this morning, so I like to think she is pleased too smile

LightTripper Tue 10-Dec-13 07:55:41

Sorry about your SPD Misty. From what I've read it sounds like taking it easy is definitely the right thing, glad your DH is being a superstar!

Vikkijayne2507 Tue 10-Dec-13 08:30:17

aww misty I really feel for you sounds horrible

bundaberg Tue 10-Dec-13 08:37:23

misty poor you sad

it's such hard work when you have other kids to look after too, I think mine had a LOT of tv time in my last trimester with my previous 2 pregnancies lol, not that they were complaining!

I also had a lovely childless friend who would come over and take them to the park for an hour while I napped. She's so inconsiderate now and has had a little girl of her own though and is pg with number 2, so not an option this time wink

I have said that I'm definitely not doing this again. I'd forgotten how hard it is on my body and I'm feeling super old lol

LightTripper Tue 10-Dec-13 09:10:17

My MIL says being pregnant is good practice for being old!

Cannotbelieveit Tue 10-Dec-13 16:15:44

Just checking in ladies! Being back at work is so tiring!

Think I will finish for mat leave the earliest we are allowed to!

20+3 grin

Trinpy Tue 10-Dec-13 16:29:41

Hi misty. I have spd too. Did you have it in your last pregnancy? How did you cope?

I'm still signed off sick with it but being able to rest lots and doing the exercises has made a huge difference. I was told by occ health last week that they didn't want me returning to work, but now they think I can return next week but on light duties/reduced hours. Atm I can't walk for more than 15mins on a good day so god only knows how that's going to happen! I can't stop crying for days now, worrying about work worrying about the pain, etc.

And still 4 months to go! sad


Trinpy Tue 10-Dec-13 16:37:20

Btw, sorry for being so miserable today. I'm tired and just feel like a big drain on everyone now. I had to wake up dh last night just to ask him to help turn me over onto my other side ffs, because my pelvis had seized up and it was too heavy and painful for me to turn on my own.

ParsonsPig Tue 10-Dec-13 20:32:21

Hello everyone ... I've been lurking around for a while and thought I would delurk to offer sympathy for Trinpy. I have rheumatoid arthritis which is crappy at the best of times, but have had to be off meds while pregnant and trying to control it with steroids and paracetamol!!! I imagine the intense pain you're going through is just as draining and gets you down. Hope everyone is doing well and doesn't mind me delurking (21 +3).

Misty9 Tue 10-Dec-13 22:06:13

Hi Parsons, and sorry to hear that trinpy, definitely sounds worse than mine has been so far. Yes had it with first pregnancy but didn't get really bad until last few weeks. I do remember it ruining my first night with ds as I couldn't move off the bed to change him! As for coping, do as little as possible and taking painkillers if really bad. Rubbish tho isn't it sad

LeeHandy Tue 10-Dec-13 22:10:25

sorry to hear about your spd misty, trinpy and your arthritis parsons. sending lots of biscuit and brew your way.
I hope your symptoms improve!

LightTripper Tue 10-Dec-13 22:38:08

Just wanted to second the biscuit and cake. Sounds awful. I hope work have a bit of a reality check. I know it's easier said than done, but don't let them push you into doing so much it makes it worse.

Hugs, LT.

Trinpy Wed 11-Dec-13 16:22:58

Thanks for being so nice everyone! Feeling much more positive about it all today.

Sounds like we're all suffering a bit at the moment. Roll on April!!

I'm 22 weeks pregnant and never had chicken pox before. Neither have I been vaccinated against it. One of my colleagues son has caught it and the said colleague works in my team. Are there significant chances of me catching it through him?

Misty9 Wed 11-Dec-13 23:34:35

Not sure princess, best ask your midwife. Glad you had better day trinpy. I had day of screaming tantrums with my beloved child wanting to be carried and not understanding that mummy's pelvis may just disintegrate under such strain!
God knows how I'm going to cope when I'm heavily pregnant with the world's laziest toddler around.. Help!

BeansAndCheese Thu 12-Dec-13 08:52:54

Princess, The gp mentioned needing an injection to me when they suspected my dd may have it (she didn't), but I've already had chicken pox so didn't need to worry.Maybe ring midwife or go to check?

Trinpy Thu 12-Dec-13 13:45:00

Oh no misty, that doesn't sound much fun! At least if dc gets used to not being carried now it will be less of a shock when the baby comes along and wants to be carried too!

I saw the women's health physio today who basically told me to do the exact opposite of what the occ health physio said hmm . So I'm on complete bedrest now until my next appointment on Monday.


BunnyBump1 Fri 13-Dec-13 06:40:09

LeeHandy, I had the same problem and was not getting any sleep at all. I started sleeping very early to get some much wanted sleep. Also avoid drinking too much water after 6-7 PM. I feel much better since couple of weeks now 25 Weeks

mamapants Sat 14-Dec-13 10:21:01

princess if you go to midwife they'll be able to test your blood for chicken pox antibodies. Although I never had cp or vaccination I did have antibodies. So maybe had it so mild I didn't even notice. But if you don't have any they can give you an injection. Although I really wouldn't think you were likely to catch it via your colleague unless he has caught it too.

Have my scan on Monday.
And work xmas party tonight. Nearly thought I couldn't go as DP mistakenly agreed to work tonight and I had no one else to watch DS but he's managed to find some cover at last minute. Was feeling very sorry for myself last night when I thought I couldn't go.

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 14-Dec-13 13:05:39

I couldnt sleep last night when I did I woke up in excruciating muscle spasms in my leg. Ive noticed my legs are slightly swollen, not sure if I should just try and keep moving (blood flow) and then keep them elevated. I have good blood pressure so im guessing its water retention or something. My leg muscle just (calves) still feel a bit sore from last night it was so painful though. My sleep is so messed up I was in bed til 10.30 and had to get up to collect my car from garage or I would have stayed sleeping

LeeHandy Sun 15-Dec-13 10:04:03

bunny I usually wake up really thirsty in the middle of the night as well, despite drinking a lot of water.
I have started sleeping with a pillow between my legs and it's making a difference in how comfortable I am. I don't understand the reason why, but previously I used to wake up with my legs sore and achy and now it's hardly noticeable at all. vikki maybe that will help you as well.
we have been stroller browsing the last couple of weekends and now I am even more convinced that I shouldn't spend a ton of money on a pushchair that will be used only for about 2 years.
I really like the uppababy Cruz and Vista. we also liked the baby jogger city mini. we plan to go to mamas and papas and kiddicare as well before making a final decision.
my maternity leave is all booked in with my HR and it's only 3 months away!!

Imnotsurehowtogetthisout Sun 15-Dec-13 11:33:21

Hi leehandy I am handing my HR forms in this week. Can I ask when you stated you wanted to start maternity leave? I was thinking of putting the due date as the intended date of leave, knowing I would leave before then. I thought it would be easier to start earlier leave than I stated, whereas if I feel good and want to carry on they might not allow me.

Any advice appreciated.


Trinpy Sun 15-Dec-13 12:17:52

Hi everyone.

The pillow between your legs keeps your hips more aligned, so there probably isn't the same stretch on whichever leg is on top, iyswim? Not a very clear explanation, but it makes sense to me wink .

I've got all my mat leave forms all ready to hand in in the morning. I'm leaving at 32 weeks, but that's fairly normal in my job because it's quite physically tough. I'm breaking it up a bit with some A/L so I've only got 6 working weeks to go!


Vikkijayne2507 Sun 15-Dec-13 13:51:32

imnotsure I am leaving on 22nd Jan but AL before that so so i have like 12 days left which is insane but im moving country so want to be settled in new flat before baby comes I have a feeling he will be early but what do i know. I sorted my mat leave and got letter through confirming it all. What I would say is that you have to give 28 days notice if you want to change the date unless baby is born before that and mat which start as soon as baby born. So if you want the option of working to due date I would put due date as the leave as the mat leave will start before hand anyway if you went to labour I would ask your HR about if you can change the date if you feel it.

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 15-Dec-13 13:52:47

oh and i forgot about putting weeks 23 + 4 weeks

catameringue Sun 15-Dec-13 14:40:31

Hi all,

I've handed my mat leave forms in and I'm asking for a/l from 32 weeks then mat leave.

LeeHandy- I love the uppababy vista and also need to check mammas and pappas before making a purchase. The vista sells second hand on ebay for only a bit less than it costs brand new!

BunnyBump1 Mon 16-Dec-13 07:16:44

We had been checking out pushchairs, same here loved the Uppababy Cruz and Vista as well....
Imnotsure I am planning to hand out my forms HR this week as well. I heard that you should ideally put leave 2 weeks in advance to your due date beyond that if you wish to work need to get letter from GP that you are fit to work.


Cannotbelieveit Mon 16-Dec-13 08:50:46

My last working day will be feb 15th tho I have a couple days holidays to take so will finish before that! Counting down already and only been back 2 weeks!!! The 4 hours added onto my day travelling (no direct train or bus service) is too much!!

Pushchair turned up last week, not going to use it for DS1 yet will wait for DS2's arrival so it still all looks nice and new!

21+2 grin

LightTripper Mon 16-Dec-13 13:35:32

I have booked mat leave from 3 weeks before DD. A couple of friends had their first babies 2 weeks early, so I'm hoping it gives me a good chance of at least a few days to sort myself out. I'm pretty sure I'll be asked to stay longer when the time comes - but will see how I feel at the time.

Things are super busy here - have done 70 hour weeks the last two weeks and this one will be similar - am so ready to crash for Christmas. Am exhausted. Nausea seems to have plateaued at perfectly tolerable but annoying level, sciatica similar, plus now have a cold - joy joy joy.

Not feeling very festive yet. Managed to get tree up at the weekend but had to work some of it and decided laundry was a priority over decorating in the free time I did have, so still haven't decorated or done ANY cards.

Ho hum. Getting enough sleep, so I hope I'm not making the baby too miserable. Feel a bit guilty at what the working hours might be doing to her, but then think about all the women having babies in different countries and through the ages and I bet they didn't get much time off, so hopefully it will be OK. In the end my job is not at all physical, so as long as I don't get too wound up I'm hoping she'll be alright.

I would just so love a whole day feeling properly well.

LT xx


LeeHandy Mon 16-Dec-13 20:28:45

Hi all..

I've booked in mat leave from march 28th. My due date is 31st but I have 9 days of leave left that I need to use up before I go on mat leave so technically I will be off from march 14th. My HR is being pretty understanding in the sense that they told me that even though I am supposed to give 28 days notice to change the date of my mat leave, if I was feeling too tired to come in they would take "any reasonable notice" that i could give.

i'mnotsure, it's worth chatting with your HR to understand what options they can give you. Legally you need to tell them by 24 weeks when you are going on mat leave and then 28 days notice if you want to make a change.

The day after I gloated to a friend that I hadn't fallen ill yet this winter, I got a cold and so am sniffling all over the house and feeling sorry for myself.

cata mamas and papas are running offers on the sola & urbo2 before christmas so there are some good deals to be had if you decide to go for them.

25 weeks today.

BunnyBump1 Tue 17-Dec-13 06:43:39

Hi LeeHandy, the only issue would be if you have your baby before your maternity leave starts, from then on it will be counted as maternity leave. If you do not have option of carryforwarding your left over leaves to next year you will loose them. Hence i am planning to take maternity leave from 2 weeks before and another 2 weeks of my annual leave for 2013. which means i can take leave from 1st March as my due date is 28th Mar

BunnyBump1 Tue 17-Dec-13 06:46:25

25 + 4 days today

prettyinpink90 Tue 17-Dec-13 22:32:52

Hi ladies! Hope you're all feeling festive and looking forward to Christmas fsmile I've not contributed for a few weeks but I've been popping in daily to see what everyone's upto.

I'm also struggling to get a good nights sleep at the moment. I can't get comfy at all and keep waking with really achy legs.

I see the midwife tomorrow and presume I will get my MATB1 form so I can pass onto my HR department? I'm hoping to take my outstanding annual leave before I go on maternity so planning on finishing at around 33/34 weeks.


LightTripper Wed 18-Dec-13 17:05:39

My GP actually gave me my MAT1B at my first appointment ... I'm sure she wasn't meant to but I can see why they do it to save the paperwork. It's not like realistically you're going to hand it in if you end up not being pregnant, given it should generally be pretty obvious by the time you get to that stage!

I am really showing now with a proper bump that looks definitely like baby rather than cake. Keep catching sight of myself in the mirror and being slightly surprised as I seem bigger than the last time (even though I haven't actually put any weight on for a couple of weeks ... I guess it's just dehydration linked to the cold and/or stress - but I look bigger so it must be redistributing itself somehow). I think it's because looking down I still can't see bump over boobs - once i can see it for myself rather than only in my reflection I guess I will get a bit more used to the idea! Went into New Look yesterday to look at the maternity stuff but felt a bit overwhelmed and ended up leaving without buying anything. Will have to take the plunge soon though I think, if only to get some leggings and a big jumper. Maybe I'll buy online, that might be a bit less intimidating.

Still love feeling her move inside me. Haven't found pregancy that fabulous an experience overall, but feeling her move around is the one bit I really enjoy. Just found out a friend has been diagnosed with a molar pregnancy at her 12 week scan and am now feeling I should definitely moan less and count my blessings a bit!

LT xx


KLou1105 Wed 18-Dec-13 21:35:11

25 weeks today :-) had my midwife appt,, all okay and baby very active as normal. Also got my matb1, and invites to start antenatal classes in January which I though was quite early but she says they start from 28weeks. many of my friends have said they didnt find them that helpful but i willb going anyway!

Have decided to take my 4 weeks holiday and 2 weeks maternity before baby is due so will b going off on 19th February, and I'm secretly looking forward to having this time off, I do community care and work really early mornings and between 2-4 late nights aswell so can b very exhausting!

Finally over my sickness and enjoying pregnancy and also getting a bump at last! Now in desperate need of a new wardrobe, although I did go and get measured for new bras last week and have gone from c cup to dd cup!

Prettyinpink- I'm also finding it difficult sleeping at night :-( but have ordered a by Carla pregnancy pillow hopefully it helps!

Lighttripper - I'm the same every morning i wake upand look in the mirror and think god I look bigger again, haha. So sorry to hear about ur friend :-(

Hope everyone has a lovely christmas xxx

LeeHandy Thu 19-Dec-13 08:30:23

Oh bunnybump! what you are saying makes so much sense and I didn't think that I would lose my holidays that way! shock but you are right. I am now wondering if I should have taken the holidays earlier or if I can wing it and hope I don't have my baby more than 2 weeks early! oh decisions!
speaking of which, has anyone heard anything about the mutsy 4rider light? it's the number 2 rated travel system on mumsnet and I've never seen one. I found a retailer quite close to me that stocks it and want to check it out.

BlessedAssurance Thu 19-Dec-13 19:49:09

Hi everyone. Have not been posting for a while due to RL. Just popped in to check on how everyone is doing.
Yay to looking bigger and bigger. I was not that big with DC1 and people always comment on how big my tummy is. The rest of me is super thin but stomach is sticking out.
My maternity leave is 3weeks before arrival of the baby but because my job is quite physical i am allowed to take it when i feel i have had enough. I am still working because all is well with me and honestly have no idea what to do with myself if i was to take mat leave now. Will see how it goes. The moving at work is helping a lot. I have no swelling and sleeping is good most nights,what wakes me is the baby kicking the daylights out of me and i love itgrin and DD wanting to go to the toilet.

26+4 today

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 19-Dec-13 22:34:37

I leave my job on al next Friday. It's so close im working 8 to 8 at the moment exhausted but the end is in sight

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 19-Dec-13 22:35:06

24 + 1 weeks

Cannotbelieveit Fri 20-Dec-13 08:51:58

Still off sick from work, this fluey thing is terrible x haven't left the house since Saturday last week for work!

Hunter is getting better tho grin

21+6 and have a very active baby!! Had a anterior placenta last time but this time hrs posterior and high up so can feel so much more

mamapants Sat 21-Dec-13 08:03:52

Leehandy I carried over all my holiday leave when I had DS and I had loads left. Work didn't mind at all. All they say in my work is to try and use it first. Best check with your boss or H.R dept forguidance.

mamapants Sat 21-Dec-13 08:08:22

Oh and somebody upthread said you need a doctors note to work passed 37weeks but I never needed one and I worked to 39weeks. So again that might be just employer specific.

catameringue Sat 21-Dec-13 08:27:47

LeeHandy - not seen mutsy 4rider myself but I have a Which? membership. I looked up the review on there for you. It scores 72% (their best buy gets 89% the uppababy cruz). Lots of positive written about it, main cons are it's heavy and bulky.

Imnotsurehowtogetthisout Sat 21-Dec-13 18:36:35

Thank you all for the maternity leave advice.i think I will put 38 weeks down and see how I go. HR was away last week so won't be able to give form in till after Xmas now.

Had my 25 week mw appointment this week, all ok. They are keeping an eye on my platelets but I won't know results for a few days. I know some people are having difficult pregnancies but sometimes just the worry that my platelets will drop further or my cyst will become a problem feels overwhelming....hoping it is just because I'm tired from work and will feel better with this time off over Xmas.

How is everyone else feeling?


Bodeccia Sun 22-Dec-13 07:30:37

Hi everyone

Just catching up on the news. Had my scan and we're expecting a girl and a boy, really delighted smile

We also have booked my ELCS and they're arriving on 1st April when I'll be 37 weeks. I've said I'd work until 36 weeks, as I did with dd1 (she ended up arriving at 42 weeks and so I had 6 weeks of nothing - waaay too long). However, twins is a different ball game and I don't know if 36 weeks isn't wildly optimistic. We'll see...

We have a mutsy, we got it second hand, it had 2 children before dd1 and its been great. I can push it with one hand. I don't find it heavy at all, tho I don't know any different. It has been a real work horse.

We're probably going to get the bugaboo donkey for the twins and dd1 (who will be 22 months). An absolute fortune, I know, and not that much cheaper second hand, but I'll need options when twins arrive. I like the idea of having the twins in the carry cot together and dd1 on a seat next to them. They don't seem to do sales either which is a pain.

23 weeks

Trinpy Mon 23-Dec-13 12:48:08

Great news on the scan Bodeccia! Shame you don't have much choice over prams but everyone I know who's had the bugaboo donkey has liked them (apart from the price!).

I'm finally back at work tomorrow after 3 weeks sick leave. I'm a bit nervous about going back because I'm still in so much pain, but I have codeine and my maternity support belt thing, so I'm hoping it won't be too awful!

Hope everyone has a nice Christmas - next year we'll be spending it with our babies!!!


1muddymummy Mon 23-Dec-13 14:52:38

What's a matb1?


Frannyboo90 Mon 23-Dec-13 18:03:47

Hi all this is my first post on the site but my sister posts and recommended me to come on, I'm due 21st of April having a suprise smile when does the 3rd trimester officially begin? I should know as I have a little boy lol but he's 4 now and iv forgotten so much! X

patsy375 Mon 23-Dec-13 19:58:21

* muddy* the Mat B1 is a certificate which officially confirms your pregnancy and due date. This can be supplied by your midwife or GP and is given to your employer in order for you to receive statutory maternity pay.

patsy375 Mon 23-Dec-13 20:10:24

Welcome Franny smile
The third trimester is generally taken to be from 28 weeks til birth.

Patsy 25+1

1muddymummy Mon 23-Dec-13 22:47:51

Ah ok. Don't need to worry as I'm my DHs secretary and he knows I'm pregnant!

LeeHandy Mon 23-Dec-13 22:52:01

Cata, thank you for checking on the mutsy for me! Over the weekend I called the only mutsy stockist in my side of London but they are an online only store and do not have a showroom where I can test it. So much as I am interested in the mutsy, I don't want to buy something that important without ever seeing it in real life. I'm going for the uppababy vista instead!

Bodeccia congratulations on the scan! A boy and a girl is very exciting news indeed! Do you use your mutsy in public transport or cars? The mutsy and uppababy vista both weigh the same with the bassinet, but with the seat, the vista is 1.5 kilos lighter. So I agree, the mutsy is not much heavier than my other choice.
I am now waiting for the boxing day sales in the hope of getting a good deal on the vista.
Mamapants, It's good to know you could carry over your holidays - I hope my HR has the same viewpoint. I will have a chat with my HR manager and find out.
Welcome Franny!

26 weeks today

Cannotbelieveit Mon 23-Dec-13 22:58:45

Welcome franny xx

Frannyboo90 Tue 24-Dec-13 07:09:14

Thankyou everyone for the welcome! And happy Christmas Eve to all smile my placenta is posterior this time and was anterior last time (hope I've got that the right way round) and I'm definitely feeling less movement than last time! Still feeling some kicks though and it's so reassuring feeling them smile xx

prettyinpink90 Wed 25-Dec-13 06:16:23

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!! fsmile


LightTripper Wed 25-Dec-13 12:08:20

And to you Pretty! And to all the ladies... Have a wonderful day. Xxx


Vikkijayne2507 Wed 25-Dec-13 23:31:37

happy Xmas all baby been kicking all day and started again just now

LightTripper Thu 26-Dec-13 08:53:38

She is obviously a Christmas fan fgrin

Cannotbelieveit Fri 27-Dec-13 00:19:52

Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas xx

LeeHandy Fri 27-Dec-13 03:04:56

Hope everyone had a great Christmas and was not badly affected by the storms we are having! xx

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 27-Dec-13 18:00:43

storms were insane. didn't help i got awful heartburn that made me sick and packing house up had last day of work today so with no sleep I was working like crazy and now packing like crazy before I can breathe and relax on 29th when furniture gets taken and we get ferry 31st

poppyXsmile Fri 27-Dec-13 19:26:22

Hi everyone

Congratulations on your pregnancies and hope you are enjoying the festive season.

I am 25 + 1 due 10 April 2014 with a baby boy. Been quite anxious throughout pregnancy due to previous problems but going well so far thankfully.


Vikkijayne2507 Fri 27-Dec-13 21:37:46

hi poppy your 1 day behind me and im expecting a boy as well welcome. 25 + 2

Cannotbelieveit Fri 27-Dec-13 22:33:37

Welcome poppy x

carolinesas Sat 28-Dec-13 13:30:56

Hello! I'm due April 30th, so I could end up with a May baby. I'm starting to feel more and more movement which is exciting!

patsy375 Sat 28-Dec-13 18:56:50

Welcome newbies! smile

So ladies how have you found being pregnant at Christmas?
Have you missed the booze? wine
Have you had to suffer 'advice' from well meaning relatives?
Are you completely shattered or have you found it all a breeze?

I've really missed eating pate sad but have treated myself to 2 coffees with a splash of Baileys shock
I played the pregnancy card (and the fact I was working a night shift xmas day) to get out of hosting dinner this year and it was great! grin

Patsy 25+6

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 28-Dec-13 19:57:58

my Christmas has been a bit odd as we're moving country so 1 day of Xmas followed by me and oh living in a land of boxes and tape. I did miss drinking at Christmas and when went to a friends house I allowed myself half a glass of wine during a work do but it made me miss it a bit

LightTripper Sun 29-Dec-13 12:16:22

The one advantage of still feeling nauseous is that I haven't missed booze at all! Brie was probably the thing that called to me most, but other than that I haven't minded the food restrictions too much...

Christmas has been lovely, though I get knackered so easily! But everybody seems fine with me not being much help in the afternoon/evening. Today is our first day totally to ourselves, just doing various jobs.... Has been lovely so far!!

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 29-Dec-13 16:33:31

am exhausted all day packing and most evening tidying am feeling it now the exhaustion

nevergoogle Mon 30-Dec-13 21:22:40

ah here you all are.

I'm still on anti-emetics but feeling less nausea now and back to work. As if by magic, the depression has lifted too. Seems I just couldn't function without food, and my mood plummeted. Still only 10 days since I last threw up (while driving and in a lay-by in the rain), so won't count my chickens just yet.


LightTripper Mon 30-Dec-13 22:01:26

Hello never! Lovely to hear from you. Fingers crossed you are done with the vomming now at least. Hope things keep getting better, D xx

prettyinpink90 Tue 31-Dec-13 17:58:54

An early Happy New Year to you all ladies! Here's to 2014... safe deliveries, healthy little bundles of joy and lots of sleepless nights!

LeeHandy Wed 01-Jan-14 10:07:31

Happy New year everyone!! this year is going to be so special... grin
Vikki hope your move is going alright!

LightTripper Wed 01-Jan-14 14:27:46

Happy New Year! Has suddenly hit me, this is the year when everything happens!! Also bought some mat clothes for the first time yesterday (H and M: small selection but found plenty I liked and everything fitted... It's even all long enough!). Which is great, but having just been in normal baggy clothes until now I suddenly look properly very pregnant... Definitely can't just blame the cake any more!

ChurrosConChocolate Wed 01-Jan-14 16:47:19

Hello, can I join you?
I'm due with my second on the 25th April when DS will be 2.8years. Didn't have a great birth experience last time so hoping it will be more positive second time round.
Wishing everyone a great 2014!

Cannotbelieveit Wed 01-Jan-14 20:02:18

Hello Everyone, happy new year! It's seeming much closer now we can say we are due this year!

This little boy bean is moving so much and with so much strength! It's so different having a posterior placenta this time!

Counting down the days to mat leave (even tho I only started back 5th December!)

DS is poorly again! So I can't go to work tomorrow! Poor boy has cold etc and explosive poo nappies! I hope he gets a tooth soon!!

23+4 grin

nevergoogle Wed 01-Jan-14 20:21:49

Hi churros and welcome. smile
I had my second and 2 years 9 months after my first horrible birth experience.
Now pregnant with my 3rd with a 7 year age gap between DS1 and DS2.

LightTripper Wed 01-Jan-14 22:48:45

Welcome Churros! Hope you have a better experience this time.... Second ones are supposed to be easier aren't they, so maybe that bodes well?!

LeeHandy Thu 02-Jan-14 07:20:55

welcome churros!
everything definitely feels closer now that it's already 2014. less than 3 months to go! we spent last weekend painting the nursery and I bought my first set of baby clothes in the sales. smile

for those who are still stroller shopping, a few sites like pramcentre.co.uk and babynest in croydon are doing packages for stroller + car seat which are good deals. on the uppababy Vista, I am essentially getting the maxi cosi car seat free. grin

ChurrosConChocolate Thu 02-Jan-14 09:10:02

Thanks for the welcome! Yes, clinging on to the idea that second ones are easier smile

never did you have a better time second time round? Any tips on staying positive? I'm going to try some hypnobirthing and I'm being well looked after by the consultant and counsellor at the hospital but still feeling anxious and even though I could have an elective C-section if I wanted this time I really want to try and have a natural birth if possible.

Lee I know what you mean about it seeming more real now it is 2014. I've been putting off thinking about getting anything ready until after Christmas but now I really need to get myself sorted out!

ThedementedPenguin Thu 02-Jan-14 10:16:44

Hi, I used to be on this thread but have up and stuck to Facebook instead. I've just found it again so thought I'd post.

So I'm due 05/04/14. Am having a girl. Ds will be roughly 19months when this ones born.

Feeling so sorry for myself. I've been up all night vomiting. Managed to fall asleep around 6. Then started gagging again this morning.

Think I want food but I'm afraid to vomit again. Anyone on here that could advise me on what to do? Should I chance it?

catameringue Thu 02-Jan-14 14:01:59

Is it nausea and vomiting, or could heartburn/ stomach acid be making it worse?

ThedementedPenguin Thu 02-Jan-14 14:30:43

cat I have been getting heartburn/stomach acid, I got rennies and stuff for it. I took some before bed and then when I woke up I took some more.

Then it just hit me and I threw up, couldn't keep water down just kept throwing up.

I fell asleep around 6 this morning was up around 9.30am. Gagged/wretched a few times.

Since then I've had a slice of dry toast and it has stayed down, some water and some very flat lemonade.

Might try another slice soon. Not sure if I'm hungry or what.

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 02-Jan-14 14:40:49

cheers lee move went fairly well other than the ferry being cancelled and us having to get the eurotunnel and driving all the way to Portugal got here 10:30 last night. exhausted but in one piece. its feeling very rwal now and baby moves lots in the evening and im getting bigger every day I feel very pregnant bump getting in the way of reaching for stuff etc. have to wait for stuff to arrive from England in next 2 weeks and then all go getting house ready and getting all other baby things ready hopefully baby won't come 2 early so have a couple of months.
26 + 1 weeks

patsy375 Thu 02-Jan-14 17:22:30

Welcome churros do you mind me asking what happened last time? Or would you rather not say?

nevergoogle Thu 02-Jan-14 17:54:08

DS1 was born by emergency section with Group B Strep and developed pneumonia and septiciaemia. Born not breathing, it took 5 minutes for him to breath, he then spent a week in intensive care. His second night we were prepared by the docs and nurses that he may not make it through the night. I also had septicaemia from wound infection and we were in hospital for 2 weeks. Then there was the PND and the feeding problems from having been tube fed for the first week. We got there in the end but it was far from the natural process I had hoped for. And he was 6 months old before I allowed myself to believe I was getting to keep him and that I wasn't just loving and looking after him before he would die. sad

Naturally I was terrified second time round. I attended the classes and had an appointment with the midwife who talked me through the details of the first experience. That helped a bit. But at the consultant appointment the decision was made that an elective section was the way to go. I was disappointed but the experience was so much better I really find it hard to disagree with their decisions.

DS2 was born at 39 by elective c-section. He was healthy, feeding was easy and the recovery from the section was unproblematic. smile

I've always had that niggle that I would like to experience vaginal birth after having come so close with DS1 (dilated to 10cm and pushed for ever before they had to do emergency section), but having discussed the risks with the consultant I'm not keen on the odds. After 2 sections there is a much higher risk of rupture of scar tissue and we've gone ahead and booked another c-section for 39 weeks with the possiblity of a trial of labour if it starts before then.

I think I'm more accepting of the decision this time as my own. While I would love to have a natural birth, comparing my two experiences make it easier for me to accept that the section is the right decision for me this time. Although part of me still hopes i go into labour and it all happens so quickly the surgeon never gets his scalpel near me wink.

Que sera sera and all that.

ChurrosConChocolate Thu 02-Jan-14 20:55:16

patsy no, I don't mind telling you about it at all. Compared to some stories it's not so bad.

never I can't imagine how that would have been, I was so lucky in that DS was always doing fine, I can't imagine dealing with a poorly baby and fearing for his life but I'm so glad that second time round went well ad you all had a good outcome.

I had a back to back baby that everyone just presumed would turn. I had wonderful care in a MLU but eventually had to be transferred to the labour ward when things stopped progressing. I had an 8 hour second stage (2 hours of which was waiting for an epidural as I refused to go on the drip until I had one) and then several failed attempts with the ventuose and then a forceps delivery. It transpires the Registrar used the wrong forceps though and I had a bad 3rd degree tear and serious haemorrhage that took a lot of recovering from. The worst thing was the Registrar though who really hurt me and was very rude the first time he examined me and we basically (and correctly) had no faith in him. Even though we begged for some one else to do the delivery we were told that he was the only person available and he ended up delivering my DS and stitching me up. Just left me with very little faith in the people taking care of me and feeling a real lack of control. Cried for weeks after and feel like I lost those precious weeks with my son.

I have a great consultant and we are going to keep options open and have an extra scan and appointment at about 37weeks to check babies size, position and how perineum is holding up and make a final decision from there but I really want to have the birth I tried to have last time (even if I do have to go straight to labour ward this time which I'm not very happy about...)

penguin Sounds like if you can keep some fluids and toast down you might be ok but I'd be really careful not to get dehydrated and call NHS direct or see a doctor if you don't feel better in the morning.

nevergoogle Thu 02-Jan-14 21:09:40

3rd degree tears make for a rough recovery churros so hardly surprising you are worried. FWIW a friend on mine went on to have a natural normal delivery with her second after a similar experience.

jen2014 Thu 02-Jan-14 21:21:14

Hi, can I join you too? Am due on 28th April with DC2 - don't know gender! Also have a DS who will be 2.7 yrs at due date.
So far so good although heartburn is worse this time round - bizarrely often several hours after eating??
Anyone have any advice on double prams? DS1 is a good walker but if he throws a wobbly I will need to contain him somehow or I'll find myself abandoning baby in pram to hurtle off round the car park after him! I don't like the look of the ones where the baby kind of slides in underneath, practically on the floor. Also don't want a side by side as it will be too bulky. I've seen a Graco one where the baby sits in front but it looked quite old and I didn't get a look at the model type?
A friend dropped off a crib for us today - first piece of new baby equipment in the house, yay smile
23 + 3

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 02-Jan-14 21:21:57

ahh all your stories sound scary but its really useful for me to hear to know what can go wrong so im less worried or paniced if it happens to me

Misty9 Thu 02-Jan-14 21:41:42

Hi all, haven't posted on here for ages so welcome to the new joiners. Had our final specialist heart scan and all clear - but have been advised against a home birth sad just because they can't 100% guarantee there are no problems (can they ever?!). I'm thinking the mlu but haven't decided yet.

It's all seeming so real now; it's getting harder to bend over and baby's kicking and moving about so much. Anterior placenta again but ds was never this active! He was obviously just lazy grin

Just bought tandem buggy today and quite excited about it. Went for the babystyle oyster max tandem after a LOT of online research as it seems to have the most room between the two seats and can be used as a single when ds finally decides to walk a bit more (he'll be 2.7 when this one is born). It's so pretty too smile

Hope you feel better soon penguin

26+1 (I think!)

Cannotbelieveit Thu 02-Jan-14 23:49:00

Welcome to the newbies!!

I'm expecting ds2 on April 26th. Ds1 will be 12 months old! Eek!!

Double pram wise I got the oyster max have a look at it.

Newbies PM me if you want to join the Facebook group

23+5 grin (nearly +6!)

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 02-Jan-14 23:49:07

misty are you due on 9th April same as me as im 26 + 1 weeks

prettyinpink90 Fri 03-Jan-14 11:42:24

Welcome to all the newbies smile

Hope you're feeling better today penguin

Hope you're move went ok vikki and you're getting settled in!

It's starting to dawn on me that this is the year our baby will be born and I'm getting a tad nervous! It really doesn't seem too far away now. Bump is getting bigger and I feel our little lady kick everyday.
We have got quite a collection of the babies things now, including the nursery furniture and we ordered the Bugaboo Cameleon 3 yesterday. Is anyone superstitious about the pram being in the house before the baby is born? We think we will leave ours at a relatives house.

25 weeks today!

LightTripper Fri 03-Jan-14 12:33:37

Hello pretty! Not superstitious ... more wondering where we will put things, as we still haven't got decoration sorted (house hasn't been painted since we moved in, and in a couple of rooms previous people gave it a fresh coat around their furniture ... so it really needs it!!) It's going to be hard enough to move all our rubbish between rooms so they can be painted as it is (and one of the rooms to be painted is practicaly empty)... I need to be throwing stuff out, not adding stuff in!

Hopefully the only "big" thing we will get much before due date is the buggy (going to look for the fist time this weekend) - a friend has offered us a cot, but that might even arive after the baby. Other than that I'm planning just a plain chest of drawers and an arm chair for nursing (or might just move one we have) - so those can both wait until after the painting is done, or even after baby arrives if need be!

jen we're due date buddies smile I don't know what I'm having either smile

Misty9 Fri 03-Jan-14 18:54:42

vikki yes I'm due the 9th - though I'm being a bit vague with the exact date when people ask as I think she'll be late like her brother was!

cannot what colour did you go for with the oyster max? I'm ridiculously excited about having bought this pushchair and can't wait to use it! Went for red initially but have just changed it to purple after dh surprisingly had an opinion on colours clashing grin.

Does anyone else get a lot of Braxton hicks? Finding them quite uncomfortable.


Cannotbelieveit Fri 03-Jan-14 20:47:48

Misty I went for lime as have the ocean in the regular oyster. and think lime will suit a girl if we ever have one.

I got it whilst mothercare were doing 20% off so in effect the second seat was free!grin

ChurrosConChocolate Fri 03-Jan-14 21:16:41

jen and misty I'm going to have a similar age gap but really don't want to get a double buggy! I'm hoping I can make do with a buggy board and sling for baby, pushchair for toddler combo. My DS is getting better at walking more... Maybe I'm being optimistic but we'll see how we go..

pretty I'm really superstitious about these things! Didn't have the pram in the house with DS but it's already here now so can't do much about that this time smile I try not to buy too much until way into pregnancy and will get moses basket ready but not but up until I'm home with baby! I'm very rational about other things but my parents are superstitious and it's clearly rubbed off on me!

24 weeks today! I'm sure I wasn't this big at this stage with DS, could be all the eating over Christmas though grin

Misty9 Fri 03-Jan-14 21:37:30

cannot I couldn't see it on the mothercare website - do they stock it? There's 15% off at the moment so I'll be annoyed if I missed that!

churros I had thought I'd skip the double buggy but ds still naps in his and is a bit of a lazy so and so. He's also really uncertain about wobbly things so I dont know what he'd make of a buggy board... I also don't want to rely on the baby liking slings as ds hated his! It takes 4wks to order so I'm quite glad I've got it out of the way, and quite excited now! I can see them both using it for a year at least, then I'll use it as a single for dc2 and will have it in case of accidental dc3

jen2014 Fri 03-Jan-14 21:47:17

moominleigh yay for being due date buddies! Is this your first?
churros I'm wondering the same thing - whether I can get away with not buying a double buggy. DS1 is a pretty good walker and will do a fair distance without complaint. It's just the tantrums I'm worried about, and possibly having to haul him under one arm when he's having a strop. Some friends have just spent £1200 on their double buggy which I personally think is crackers, especially as their oldest doesn't like being in a pushchair anyway!
No Braxton Hicks at all - that I know of misty - what do yours feel like?

Yep jen I'm very excited but very nervous!

ChurrosConChocolate Fri 03-Jan-14 22:10:42

jen I really don't want a double buggy, I don't even know how I would fit it in our tiny flat! I think I'm going to see how I go without and then if I do need one just get a secondhand one as we can't afford to get a new one and with the age gap as it is will probably only be used for a short time anyway. Just hope the new baby like slings misty, hadn't considered it might not! DS still naps in his too but I figured if it was his nap time and I was out I would pop baby in sling (and actually I wouldn't be all that surprised if DS drops naps sooner rather than later anyway)

Cannotbelieveit Fri 03-Jan-14 22:23:02


oyster max

Misty9 Fri 03-Jan-14 23:06:41

Cheers cannot, I was looking in the doubles section and they class it as single with extra seat smile looks like it's excluded from their discount anyway, and place i got it was marginally cheaper. Mystery solved at least smile

Jen, they feel like part or all of bump tightening and funny sensation. Makes needing loo more urgent! Had them early with first too but didn't realise what they were until had one during 28wk midwife appt and she told me!

LightTripper Sat 04-Jan-14 08:48:35

We are going to have a first look at prams tomorrow... Not really looking forward to it!

I'm hoping I can use the sling a lot when she's small, so have been thinking of something like the city mini that you can strap a soft carry cot into, and then we can use the carrycot as an extra bed until she is big enough for a proper cot. We're not sure if we're getting a car yet, but if we do it will be small, so whatever buggy we get needs to fold down small, and also be easy to get on and off buses.

So I was thinking maybe City Mini or the lightweight Britax or Graca Evo, something like that. So unsure though... Need to see some for real!!

Bodeccia Sat 04-Jan-14 13:18:16

Afternoon ladies

I've been in such a dilemma about double buggies, we're going to have newborn twins with a 23 month old toddler, so definitely need two seats. I feel like I'm over thinking our options, so won't bore you with the details.

Tiredness has come back with a vengence, I'm so knackered all the time!

I'm also getting impatient to meet these little people and get twinmageddon started.

Happy new year everyone


ParsonsPig Sat 04-Jan-14 20:23:39

Happy New Year everyone!! I completely second earlier posts about how much closer it all seems now we are in Jan 2014!!

Can I ask a REALLY stupid question? My DH and I have bought a SnuzPod co-sleeper crib thingy and one of the selling points is that it can be removed from it's base and taken downstairs (I suppose like any Moses basket can). I don't get how you would do this with a baby though, as you have to carry the crib/basket empty. Where do you put the baby if you are carrying the basket and are on your own? Am I completely stupid??!! I'm beginning to panic about my lack of knowledge about babies and common sense.

LeeHandy Sat 04-Jan-14 22:15:45

glad to know everything went ok Vikki, I think I would not have been able to cope with moving to a new country at this stage.
we did a lot of baby shopping today! Ordered the car seat and stroller and am sure quite pleased with the deal we got.
we also went round to ikea to buy a cot and some other stuff to decorate the nursery. DH had a lot of fun playing with the stuffed toys that neither of us had ever paid attention to before. we ended up buying two!blush
welcome newbies!
I need to look up Braxton hicks, I thought they were false contractions? isn't it still early to be getting them?

jen2014 Sat 04-Jan-14 22:27:49

parsonspig I would suggest leaving the baby in the middle of your (double) bed while you carry the crib downstairs then come back for the baby. You can only do this until they're about 4 months old or whenever they start to roll. After that (if you're still bringing the crib downstairs) maybe put them in a swing seat or playnest or something while you fetch the crib.
I haven't felt anything like Braxton hicks although I have heard that apparently you have them throughout your pregnancy, it's just some women can feel them and some can't.

patsy375 Sat 04-Jan-14 23:18:14

lee I've had braxton hicks or tightnings from really early on. Probably 15 weeks or so.
Think the more babies you have the more likely you are to get them and from very early on. This being my 4th probably explains why I've had the pleasure of them so much this time!
26+6 (27 in about 40 mins time grin)

prettyinpink90 Sun 05-Jan-14 12:55:21

Is anyone else experiencing any lightheadedness / dizziness? I have for the past few days. I have been eating plenty and upped my fluid intake to see whether that helps. Is this something I should be worried about? I see my midwife on Wednesday so will mention it to her then too.

patsy375 Sun 05-Jan-14 18:45:49

Hey pretty how's things?
Made any pink purchases yet? I've had to make myself stop as its getting way out of hand!
Being light headed and dizzy can just be another one of the many joys of pregnancy but it can also be a sign of low blood pressure or anaemia so def worth mentioning to your mw x

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 05-Jan-14 19:20:44

ive been getting tightening on and off since 20 weeks but yesterday it was crazy the amount I got in a short space of time. today ive had a couple and its always in the evenings when i notice him kicking me more. not painful but can be really unfortable and doesnt help needing the loo more and more.

26 + 3

prettyinpink90 Sun 05-Jan-14 22:23:17

Thanks patsy, I will mention it to my MW on Wednesday. My first blood tests showed I was slightly anaemic so may be worth checking that again.
I've also gone a tad overboard with buying things (mostly pink and girly)... I hope she isn't a he after all. We have a 4D scan booked for two weeks time so will ask the sonographer to double check. Is this your first too?


Oli30 Sun 05-Jan-14 22:49:38

Hi lovely ladies, I'm a bit late, but please can I join your thread? I'm 25+2 (due on 18th April) with a DD, and have one DS whose 3rd birthday will be on 27th April, so I'm hoping it's not going to happen on his birthday.

Everything seems to be going pretty smoothly so far. I had a miscarriage at 12 weeks over the Easter weekend last year, so I'm hoping for better luck this time round.

I have a Bugaboo Bee which I love and has done DS really well. We also have a buggy board and a twin buggy because we do a nanny share, so very happy to answer any questions about transport logistics as we looked into every possible option!

Back to work tomorrow after 2 weeks off which is going to be a shock to the system!

LeeHandy Sun 05-Jan-14 23:22:34

welcome Oli!
the learning curve on having a baby is just astounding. grin I can't think how we are allowed to have them without any sort of training. hmm
I read about Braxton hicks and I think I would not have realised it even if I have had them. my s-i-l gave me a nursing pillow today. I had never heard or imagined of such a thing before!

prettyinpink90 Mon 06-Jan-14 01:17:32

Welcome oli smile
We have the same due date!

patsy375 Mon 06-Jan-14 08:48:00

Its my 4th baby pretty.
Sounds bloody scary when I say it out loud lol.

Vikkijayne2507 Mon 06-Jan-14 11:48:44

hello oli welcome im on my first so everything new over here starting to think I need to get more clothes I can imagine having to change baby a lot of times in a day and ive only got a few clothes. ive had a very active baby yesterday and night before and even this morning he's awake I have had lots of tightenings that don't hurt im hoping it's just uterus excising itself and not gearing up anytime soon for the main event. 26 + 5 wks

katatonic Mon 06-Jan-14 13:24:51

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Cannotbelieveit Mon 06-Jan-14 15:17:34

Welcome Kat and oli grin

ChurrosConChocolate Mon 06-Jan-14 16:10:39

Hi kat and oli

parsons you might find you don't move the crib around that much. I used to use a moses basket upstairs and put DS in his carrycot in his pram when downstairs. Otherwise, just stick him on a mat on the floor or in a bouncy chair or something while you move the crib.

vikki you will get heaps of clothes as pressies when the baby arrives though! And they grow out of them very quickly so don't get too much. Just make sure you have the basics like vests and sleepsuits as you normally don't get these so much as pressies!

Had a session with a hypnobirthing lady yesterday which was great and has given me lots to think about. Really don't want to give birth on a labour ward though, going to ask (beg!) my consultant for alternatives at my next appointment... Hypnobirthing lady was talking about finding a place where you feel safe and secure to give birth and that is definitely not the labour ward after the shitty experience I had there last time.

LightTripper Mon 06-Jan-14 16:24:16

Hello, welcome to the thread Kat and Oli!!

New Year has made this all seem scary close. Am suddenly realising that although hopefully LO will not be here for several months, she could be here much sooner, so I really need to get all my handover plans sorted ASAP!! I hate doing this though ... such a palaver, finding people to take over and making sure clients are happy etc. etc. - including on projects that are sleeping and may well not wake up again while I am away anyway. Makes me feel tired thinking about it!

Did book a decorator for Feb and had a massive clear out at the weekend (bags to recycling and Oxfam, plus quite a bit to the bin, and a couple of suitcases of clothes I can't use until post-baby put away), which was good.

On the downside went to see buggies/strollers for the first time on Sunday... ended up quite confused! Think I might go for a lie flat pushchair that's suitable for newborns (liked the BJ City Mini and Graco Evo Mini), rather than the full on travel system, as they seem so much narrower and more manouverable for public transport (and much lighter, so better for my poor crappy back!) - but initially had a bit of a wobble about whether she would be too exposed like that when she's tiny. Tried the carrycot attachment for the City Mini but found it impossible to get in and out (and my OH could only just do it), so I dont think that's going to be very practical for us - plus it makes the thing very unwieldy.

Did see a couple of small babies being wheeled around strapped into lie flat chairs at the weekend though, and they seemed to be comfy and sleeping happily, so I hope I'm worrying too much! But need to spend a bit of time thinking before I make a decision...

wendle70 Mon 06-Jan-14 19:42:16

Happy New Year ladies! Hope you all had lovely Xmases..mine was great. I even managed an inch of champagne on Xmas Day (all I could manage after researching WAY too much into whether you should even do that when pregnant....when will I learn to stop Googling..?)

Agreed - it all feels so real now doesn't it? Bump is huge and baby is kicking up a storm every day - now seeing the baby move around in my tummy (particularly on a Sunday evening??!) which is fun!

Had a massive splurge on organising baby thing buying...to the point where (don't laugh) I found a spreadsheet on the internet and then customised it into what we need. It's even more complicated as I will be spending some time at my OH's mum's house (at least every other weekend) so some things I need two of. Man. Anyway, if you want a copy of the world's most ridiculous baby spreadsheet no doubt full of stuff you do not need, let me know by PMing me. On the basis that my OH spends a lot on his car hobby I did not feel too guilty about the spend..

One thing we did do is buy a Bugaboo cameleon v 2 second hand on ebay - there are specialist dealers who safety check and valet them and so much cheaper (having gone into Mothercare and balked at about a grand for bugaboo cameleon 3). We realised lots of them don't have adjustable handles and my OH is quite tall so would be bad for his back. I think we'll get a sling second hand too.

Any views on electric v manual breast pumps? Heard Tommee Tippee Closer to nature bottles and teats are better than Avent...

Other developments (am gathering papers in front of me newsreader style)..

1. Backache has arrived. Absolutely have to sleep with large pillow between legs and even then v uncomfortable on my back. Also had tail bone pain after preg yoga (weird as in that class someone complained of that and I thought what the hec is that and the next day I had it!)

2. Had a session with consultant midwife re natural birth fears and c section desires. Got a psych appointment on Weds which I am having to go to in a bid to convince the hospital I truly do not want a VB but actually my hospital was great and said I can have any delivery I want. Thank goodness. Although with a low lying placenta I may have no choice anyway. If anyone is still considering which to go for, my midwife recommended the RCOG website (royal college of obstetricians website) and the royal college of midwives website for impartial fact based views. Tables 4.2 onwards if you look at the NICE guidelines. I found it really interesting though aimed at a more intellectual audience. I had to engage dusty lawyer part of brain and not the watching Peter Andre/TOWIE/Celeb BB part of brain. In a nutshell I concluded the report says....VB and C section risks and benefits (and bizarrely costs) about the same so each woman should have what they want. There really isn't much in it according to these 2 sources. Personally I am terrified about incontinence/baby being too big/tears...not that I think C section is a walk in the park or necessarily solves all these issues but I do feel the continence thing is better (and having had a load of UTIs in the past I am worried about anything urinary!)

4. Just signed up for NCT classes. Man they are expensive.

5. Trying to have a NY resolution not to work too hard and organise my handover as was super hectic pre Xmas. Also trying to work out when my last day at work will be. I quite fancy end of Feb/first week of March which will give me 6-8 weeks or so pre baby.

6. I also have sacked off preg yoga lessons this week with current class on basis I couldn't stand being told to breathe out misty mornings any more. Hoping I can find one that is less anti c section and hippy.

Toodle pip for now. Hmmn I have got a weird indigestion type feeling now - wonder whether it could be Braxton hicks? I ran out of food while working from home today and had baked beans and eggs (bbefore 19 dec but OH convinced me eggs can't go off unless they are bad) on PITTA BREAD. I think that will be it.

Wendle70 (24+3)

wendle70 Mon 06-Jan-14 19:47:04

ps anyone else feeling that they might be hamming up the pregnancy thing...I mean some people work out with weights/run mini marathons etc while pregnant don't they?..meanwhile I am waddling around out of breath whale like as if I am about to pop. I lever myself out of seats/roll out of bed. I walk like an obese tortoise. Haven't even dared to weigh myself - reckon must be off the charts with weight gain. Have sneaking feeling this is sub conscious ham acting on my part and I should not be out of breath walking 5 mins uphill from the station...OH keeps telling me to get fitter and walk more eg to tube in morning...but it's sooo cold and my bed is warm in the mornings..

Trinpy Tue 07-Jan-14 18:31:58


Trinpy Tue 07-Jan-14 18:51:00

Hello everyone!!! Haven't been on for a while because I changed usernames and couldn't remember how to change back from my phone! Last post was me checking it worked - nice to be Trinpy again!

I'm back at work but not for long. Hoping to last out next week and poss the week after then I might have to call it a day. Spd is still awful. Just about keeping it together at work but I'm on crutches every evening now. I know what you mean wendle - I'm not even that big but feel whale-like, no idea how people manage to carry on as normal until due date!

Is anyone else getting the constant comments on bump size? I keep getting told I barely look pregnant, bump is tiny, etc. So many people have said it I was starting to get a bit worried, but fundal height measurement yesterday put me at just above 90th centile shock .

Also if you haven't already thought of it, there are some good bargains in Jan sales atm. Very good time for baby buys wink .

Bigjellybean Wed 08-Jan-14 14:49:13

Hi ladies! I am new here. I'm due on the 15th of April. My little Aries kicks me everyday. I think I've already got used to it by now. It worries me if he keeps a bit quiet for a day. My friends told me that it showed even when I was just 4 month pregnant. And recently I was told by my mother in law that i obviously gained a bit weight and are getting much bigger. I guess I have to take it as a compliment that me and my hubby are doing a good job taking care of our growing baby.

Hi Trinpy, I don't think you should worry about the size of your bump although it's not as big as you expected. When my mum was pregnant with me, ppl said she didn't look pregnant, even before the due date. So you can imagine how small it was. It turned out I was quite a big girl (3.25kg). It seems to depend on the position of the baby. smile

KLou1105 Wed 08-Jan-14 19:51:42

Welcome jellybean

I've had my 28week midwife appt today, bloods taken :-( whopping cough jab booked. I have also been worried about my small bump! As everyone comments that I don't look very preggers either! But midwife said It was showing spot on average on the fundal chart, so I dont think there's anything to worry about Trinpy I'm sure we will soon look like whales hehe :-) i think I will pile it on wen i go on maternity leave x

28weeks today

LightTripper Thu 09-Jan-14 08:05:23

There is a girl at my work who is almost exactly as pregnant as I am, and her bump is much more prominent... But so far I've always measured fine, so I assume it's OK. I think maybe it's just because I am tall with wide hips, so there is lots of space for my bump to fit "inside me" if you see what I mean. Where as she is very petite, so the same size bump would get pushed out more. That is my theory anyway!

LeeHandy Thu 09-Jan-14 08:11:25

hello everyone..
I was also a bit worried about bump size and I was getting comments about how tiny I was carrying. but in the last 3 days I have totally ballooned out and now look very pregnant. there's a daily change in the size of my bump and I can feel myself waddling. shock
wendle I agree that I feel like a bit of a ham complaining about tiredness. I haven't even tried any yoga or any other form of exercise!! blush I would quite like to see the excel because I love organising my life according to spreadsheets and I have been using Amazon/john Lewis buying guides to shop. I don't how to pm from my phone but will try to figure it out.
I have started panicking about leaving work. I have been in this job for about 2 years only and got it after being out of work for 2 years so I feel like if I am out of work again for a year I will lose my confidence and have to start all over again. sad dh says I am being silly but I am blaming it on hormones.
my glucose tolerance test is tmw, fingers crossed I won't have to give up dessert!

Trinpy Thu 09-Jan-14 10:58:56

Don't worry Lee I'm sure you'll pick it all up again when you go back to work. I've only been in my job for 5 months (still not 100% sure I know what I'm doing some days!) but I think I'm going to ask about keeping in touch days when I go back to help ease me back into it all again. I don't know whether this is an option for you but if not I'm sure no one will expect you to go back remembering how to do everything straight away.

Good luck for the gt test tomorrow. Make sure you bring enough lucozade! I didn't (no one told me to bring the big bottle not the small one!) and I had to panic call dh and get him to bring another bottle to the doctor's for me. Hope it will be good news for both of us. Pregnancy is hard enough without having to miss out on dessert shock .

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 09-Jan-14 11:47:41

i was thinking about bump size yesterday im quite small at 5 foot 3 1\2 and i think I have started to look extremely pregnant the last few weeks and everyday bump seems to get bigger and bigger. My appetite has also grown and i now finish a plate of dinner (this never used to happen) and oh has said hes noticed how much more i seem to be able to eat on a more regular basis but its all gone on bump I dont seem to have put weight on face, arms or legs or bum. I was feeling the top of the uterus yesterday and its a good few inches above my belly button feels really high so im not feeling too bad about how big my bump seems. I have my first doctors appointment tomorrow in Portugal a bit nervous how it will go but ive been given the 'brit' doctor who speaks fluent english and ill have other half with me for any translation problems and its at 9am so not too much waiting either.

Bigjellybean Thu 09-Jan-14 14:04:12

Thanks for the welcome. smile It's nice to have a place to hang out with all the moms and mom to be. The information is so useful for a first time mom!

I was only given a small lucozade at the Antenatal Clinic for the GTT test. Isn't that enough? I'm surprised that we have to bring extra. hmm

ParsonsPig Thu 09-Jan-14 19:20:16

Yikes ... you have to take your own Lucozade?! I got mine free at at my last GTT!!! I was glad it was the original one because don't like the other flavour (is it orange?!).

Churros did you find the hypnobirthing super useful? I'm considering a session with a local therapist. This is my first baby but I've been for stays in hospital a lot with another condition and don't have a huge amount of faith in the hospital. Only one choice where I live too. I wish I felt a little more confident about it all.

25 + 5

Trinpy Thu 09-Jan-14 19:33:26

Can't believe everyone else got their lucozade free!!!

katatonic Thu 09-Jan-14 19:59:01

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Cannotbelieveit Fri 10-Jan-14 12:44:40

Got a GP appt next week as I'm in agony with my back and pelvis hmm


Vikkijayne2507 Fri 10-Jan-14 17:51:45

I had my first Portuguese antenatal appointment and im apprantly weigh more than i should be meh screw it. Also have to have glucose test as it's done here regardless boo but it's also standard to have a 30 weeks ultrasound so gd and bad

BlessedAssurance Fri 10-Jan-14 18:22:56

Gosh,how RL takes over sometimes. I have not been here for a while so happy new year ladies, cannot poor you. Hope you feel better soon.
Hope everyone is doing ok under the circumstances. I am still working 7-3 in a very physical job and am on my feet the whole time except when i have lunch. Amazingly i am in such great form it still puzzles me. No swelling, sleeping is ok except when DH snoressmile. Soon he shall be banished to the guest room. I will work till the end of the month and then stop, 2 months sound great for nestinggrin. To be honest i have no idea what i will do with myself. Dd is in nursery and Dh will be working. Clean the house several times a day? I got so bored nesting with dd1 and it was for 2 months as well.

Please give me ideas of what i can do when i am home. Would love to go for walks but this is Norway and outside will be something like -10 degrees so thats a no no..

BlessedAssurance Fri 10-Jan-14 18:24:06

29+5 today

LightTripper Fri 10-Jan-14 23:45:43

Blessed, if I have time waiting for LO to arrive my plan is to catch up with doing some photo albums (relive the crazy holidays travelling around unlikely places that I will not be having for a while now grin). Would that be any good for you? Or anything arty/crafty you are into?

Sorry to hear about your pain cannot, hope the GP can help.

Trinpy Fri 10-Jan-14 23:58:32

Oh no cannot, I hope they can help you.

I go my gt results today. All normal. I may have crammed a whole creme egg in my mouth at once in celebration <healthy>.

Had a 4d scan yesterday. Baby is so cute and plumping up nicely smile . He definitely has dh's nose too. Still another 3 months or so before we all get to meet our babies...

LeeHandy Sat 11-Jan-14 09:39:10

trinpy I didn't have to carry lucozade either! well I was given a glass of something I assume was lucozade but it was not even a bottle. I know my fears about working are irrational because my manager is really lovely. but I think I feel am feeling worse because I have only been in my role for 3 months and she is already having to advertise my maternity cover.
hope everyone's gt test results are ok. how was your appointment Vikki?

LeeHandy Sat 11-Jan-14 09:47:46

ooh missed a few messages at the end.
sorry to hear about your pain Cannot!
good to know that your appointment was ok Vikki! are they asking you to be careful about food or was it just a scold?
Kata A 28 inch bump would be more than 2 feet pregnant..grin I think I am about 28 cm as well which seems small for my height but the midwife was not concerned.
trinpy I have until Friday before my results come in and there are some chocolate puddings calling my name in the fridge. grin

ChurrosConChocolate Sat 11-Jan-14 10:08:42

Hello, been away for a couple of days for DH's birthday (will be the last trip just the 3 of us I guess, happy and sad...) so just catching up.

Parsons I found the hypnobirthing helpful. I figure there is nothing to lose and it is quite straightforward. A good way to just focus the mind and concentrate on breathing. And helpful in terms of just thinking it all through too. I feel the same about the lack of confidence in the hospital as they messed up so badly last time. Have you been to visit the labour ward or wherever you are giving birth too? I think that is really important too. Have you considered a homebirth?

Cannot hope the GP can help. Are you doing any yoga or pilates classes? It might help (depending on what the pain is I suppose...?)

Is the GT test standard? I didn't have it with my first? I don't have another midwife appointment until the end of the month so don't know how big the bump is but I feel huge! Although still feeling good, no troubles sleeping and no big aches and pains. Just get tired a little easier if I do too much walking. I'm trying to make the most of feeling ok before I get too massive, just realised how close to the 3rd trimester I am and I'm panicking!!! Still haven't sorted anything out, thought of names or done anything really!

Is anyone else self-employed and applying for maternity pay? It's on my list of things to sort out sooner rather than later but it says I need to show pay slips, but I don't have any as I'm self-employed! Do I just send copies of invoices does anyone know??


Trinpy Sat 11-Jan-14 11:31:57

Churros Do you mean maternity allowance? I'm not self-employed but I'm applying for this and from what I remember you don't need to send in proof of earnings if you're self employed because job centre can check your ni contributions. You could always check on the dwp website or with the jobcentre though.

And they normally only check gt if you're seen as high risk (such as a family history of diabetes) or if you have symptoms of gestational diabetes.

I'm interested in hypnobirthing but can't afford classes - has anyone used the CDs? Do they work?

wendle70 Sat 11-Jan-14 13:21:34

cannot i did preg yoga (a new class, as I ditched the one that read poems and talked about breathing bubbles) and it has helped my back a lot. It was like a good stretchy work out but without you ever feeling like you are out of breath/doing too much. The change is massive...feel much less waddly and more like my old self and puffiness in face gone down. Wonder if the right class might help you? Mind you if the pain is severe might sound like the last thing you want.

I also agree photo albums for nesting. I plan to sort out the nursery, garden lights, get the front of the house painted (by someone else), have lunch with people and get organised. Of course, life never goes to plan!

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 11-Jan-14 13:23:16

hi churros I wouldn't be having the gt test in the UK but apprantly its standard in Portugal and everyone has it.

lee I got the feeling it was advice I asked oh and he said it was discussed as a bit of stern advice to take a 30 minute walk after lunch and dinner as ive put on more weight than I should. but I honestly don't think it's that bad midwife in uk wasn't bothered at all she said women put weight on at different times some earlier than others im not going to be scaremongerd. sge also said to reduce carbs screw that sorry but being vegetarian im now eating very healthly in Portugal veg and soya and tofu im not going to stop having bread or pasta I'll stop any crisp buying but that's about it

patsy375 Sat 11-Jan-14 14:26:09

Trinpy I've borrowed some hypnobirthing cds from a friend. Ive been listening to the pregnancy one a couple of times a week.
I'm supposed to start listening to the labour one at 32 weeks.
It is very relaxing. Ive fallen asleep listening to mine!
Just makes you concentrate on your breathing and focus your thoughts on your pregnancy and the baby.
Lee your bump should roughly be the same in centimetres as you are in weeks pregnant regardless of your height x

LightTripper Sat 11-Jan-14 17:22:47

My "nesting" so far (not sure it is nesting so much as blind panic!) has mainly involved throwing things away. We are getting our upstairs painted, and need to be able to clear out one room at a time completely, so trying to get rid of everything we don't need pre painting, and then only get new baby stuff after it's done! So last two weekends have been a whirl of binning, free cycling, recycling centre, charity shop trips, and moving things around. Exhausted... This is by far the closest to any exercise I am getting!

Not sure that it is really nesting though, so much as a dawning realisation tha all this stuff is going to be much harder with a small person in the house so we'd better get it done!!

Right, I think I spot a freecycler arriving!

Trinpy Sat 11-Jan-14 17:52:57

Oh those CDs sound really good patsy. Which ones is it that you've got?

Misty9 Sat 11-Jan-14 18:28:21

Hi all. Feeling bit sorry for myself as it's my bday but toddler is ill and I'm not sleeping so bloody knackered. Ah well, it's nearly over for another year! Always bit of flat one after Christmas, hence why I actively avoided Dec and Jan births smile

can't quite believe she'll be here in less than 3 months...

Cannotbelieveit Sat 11-Jan-14 19:41:26

Thanks everyone think I will look into yoga or something!

25 weeks (seems to be going quicker now! grin)

patsy375 Sat 11-Jan-14 19:41:37

Trinpy I have the Pregnancy relaxation and Effective Birth preparation CD's.
You can get them from the website
They are 11.99 each or you can get them as downloads.
Have a look, see what you think.
Patsy x

BlessedAssurance Sat 11-Jan-14 19:58:00

misty happy birthday to you( in a singsong voice) smile. So sorry little misty is not well. It puts a damper on the day, doesn't it? Hope the day after will be much better for you and your little one.
tripper i am not a crafty person,not for lack of want but i am just not good at it.
However, you have just reminded me of something really important that needs doing. We have been in our home for a year and i still have not put any pictures on the walls. That is my nesting chore. Thanks a bunchgrin. It will take ages but i now have the time.
Throwing things away too, more like putting together clothes we fo not need and sending them to a charity shop, that should do it...

jen2014 Sat 11-Jan-14 21:39:09

Happy Birthday Misty!

prettyinpink90 Sat 11-Jan-14 23:43:31

Happy Birthday misty cake

I can't believe our babies will be here in 3 months. I'm getting quite nervous about being a first time mummy now!


Vikkijayne2507 Sun 12-Jan-14 02:01:45

happy birthday misty! !

ChurrosConChocolate Sun 12-Jan-14 09:09:29

Happy belated Birthday misty! Hope your day was ok in the end.

Trinpy yes, sorry, I mean maternity allowance. It says on the form I downloaded I need to send copies of pay slips to prove how much I earn so they can work out how much pay I get. I just need to call the job centre I guess.
I can't afford the full hypnotherapy course either. My DH bought me a taster session with a book and some mp3s for Christmas. I've read the book and my husband is reading relaxations every evening and I'm listening to the tracks. We'll see if it helps..

Vikki oh, ok, I didn't think gt test was standard here. It's funny the things that change from country to country. I moved from Australia when pregnant with DS and there was all sorts of little bits of different advice.

blessed glad you have a maternity leave plan! Sorting stuff out sounds like a good plan, I'm trying to arrange getting fitted wardrobes built before baby 2 arrives so I can sort out my bedroom and clothes.

Is anyone planning a homebirth? The more I read I'm wondering if I should be stubborn and put my foot down about not going to the labour ward. The hospital is just at the end of my road so would take me 2 mins to get there... I have an appointment with the consultant at the end of the month and I know she's not going to like the idea after I tore and haemorrhaged last time but I might see if I can speak a midwife about it first.

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 12-Jan-14 17:21:12

I think im going to get oh ti download some hypobirthing cds it can't hurt and could help me in the weeks before not panicking as I know I can do

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 12-Jan-14 17:21:37

27 + 4 weeks

LightTripper Sun 12-Jan-14 23:01:40

My midwife seems very keen on having "a lovely home birth" :-)
But I am a first time scaredy (and further from hospital than you!) so am planning to go to the MLU!

Trinpy Mon 13-Jan-14 11:40:09

Churros I'm planning on having a homebirth. This is my first though. Do speak to your midwife about it. I feel a lot safer with a homebirth because I know I'll have 2 midwives with me for the birth, so if anything goes wrong they will pick up on it asap and send me off to hospital. And it's not like transferring is an issue if your hospital is that close. My nearest hospital is 2 mins drive away and ambulance station is 2 doors down from me and I really don't think it would take any longer for me to get to theatre in an emergency than if I was in the mlu.

ChurrosConChocolate Mon 13-Jan-14 15:52:19

The MLU won't accept me because of what happened last time but apparently you can't be refused a homebirth... although you can be advised against it. I've sent an email and left a voicemail with the supervisor of midwives to see if she will have a chat with me about it. Would like to have an experienced midwives point of view before seeing the consultant. We'll see how much resistance there is...!!

Inglori0us Mon 13-Jan-14 16:39:51

Hi. I'm new to this thread. Hello!!
I'm under the homebirth team but not sure if I'll go through with it yet. OH not keen and I have a toddler to think about too so it depends when I go into labour and how I feel at the time I guess.
I'm feeling pretty crap and knackered due to low blood pressure (& 22 month old dd!).
Starting to have the compulsive cupboard cleaning thoughts too!

mamapants Mon 13-Jan-14 18:18:13

Everybody thinking about the birth!
I am debating the homebirth option. It was the original plan with DS but ended up under consultant led care and being induced in hospital.
Not sure this time as I was perfectly happy at hospital and know that you are already there if something goes wrong. But I really don't like the thought of leaving DS at home. And if its at night time then we would have to get my mum to watch him and I'm really not sure how well he'd cope if neither me or DP are there when he wakes in the night.
Got midwife appt tomorrow.


Vikkijayne2507 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:45:45

I had induction for antenatal classes which are apparently a legal requirement here in Portugal. also all babies and mums stay in for 2 days 3 if c section. I was surprised. also had anti d injection and have antenatal classes every Monday now. It was really good and nurse running class was lovely

LeeHandy Tue 14-Jan-14 08:22:20

Hello everyone!
happy very belated birthday misty! hope your day went well in the end.
patsy that's useful information on bump size. I will check what I am measuring and if it is supposed to be the same regardless of height, that's probably the reason why I look so small.
I have started feeling so hot all the time now. I am sweating on my way to work and it's 1 degree!
I am definitely doing the whole hospital and consultant thing because am a first time scaredy as well. I also feel that if I assume nothing will go wrong then something usually does and the way around. smile
29+1 (full term in 7 weeks!! shock shock shock )

springfling Tue 14-Jan-14 10:36:30

Hi All,
Enjoying hearing about all the nesting!
Kata, you got it right, we however are having an extension done right now, in fact they started yesterday so came home to a ripped out kitchen...!!
Definitely going to be far from ideal come the beginning of April but I am just visualising the summer when hopefully I'll be less first-time-clueless with the baby and all the building work will be done. We were organised in other ways though and painted the baby room in the Autumn, knowing it'd be stressful and messy doing that while our extension is happening. I think I am going to have to stay with my mum for a couple of weeks after the birth just because of the state our house may well still be in. Anyone who already has children, is this a terrible/brilliant idea? She lives about 2 hours from us in London, in a village in the countryside.

I am looking into antenatal classes too at the moment, anyone have any tips/advice on this?

Babymoon holiday for my husband and I on Friday for a week. Bit worried about the flight (8+ hours) but think we'll be glad we took the chance to relax and just be the two of us before the baby arrives. Anyone else planning on getting away before their dd?

Third trimester fatigue not kicked in yet, steeling myself for when it does. Just feel there is so much to do before then, including the most enormous work handover!!!


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ChurrosConChocolate Tue 14-Jan-14 16:55:05

Trinpy you were absolutely right about the maternity allowance, I just read the form again properly... Which is good news as I'll get the full amount!

spring where are you off to? Very jealous. We had a couple of days by the sea in Kent last week but had DS too, our last trip just the three of us I guess. When I was pregnant with DS we went away to Cuba and Mexico and it was lovely. House renovations sound exciting! Not sure about the plan to stay with your Mum, will your DH come too? Depends on your relationship with your Mum too but you probably won't want to be at home if there are builders there all the time for the first couple of weeks (I spent a good week or so slobbing around in pjs with my boobs hanging out... [big grin])

kat you just reminded me to do my pelvic floor exercises! I try and do them as much as I can remember (stopped at red lights, waiting for things to load on the computer...)

Vikki antenatal classes sound great, strange it's a legal requirement! What do they do if you don't go?!

I had a call from a lead midwife at the MLU centre last night and put my argument to why I should be allowed to go there and not the labour ward. She needs to talk to someone else and get back to me so fingers crossed! I think if they agree my consultant (and my parents!) would be happy with that but there would be a lot more resistance to a home birth. If they say no though I'm going to put my foot down about birthing at home, too many bad memories of labour ward...

Inglori0us Tue 14-Jan-14 17:44:09

Enjoy your trip! I traveled to New York when 7 months pregnant with my daughter. It was a bit uncomfortable but not too bad.
Found out today my car is knackered so the holiday to Cyprus we were going to book is now cancelled. Shit. Really disappointed (but my car is old and crap so not too surprised!).
I have consultant on Friday because I had a serious liver problem in my first pregnancy. Fingers crossed or doesn't come back. Don't think it's likely to but still a bit concerned.

bLooming2 Tue 14-Jan-14 22:19:31

hi all inglorious did you have oc colastasis probs spelt wrong with last ??

Trinpy Wed 15-Jan-14 07:05:06

kata god yes - must remember pelvic floor exercises. I keep forgetting.

churros glad you got the mat allowance sorted. I'm still waiting for my work to send me my mat b1 form back. Will have to chase up. Is it only people earning below a certain amount that don't get the full weekly mat allowance? It's all so confusing!


Trinpy Wed 15-Jan-14 07:05:48

hope everything goes ok on Friday Inglori0us.

LightTripper Wed 15-Jan-14 13:27:16

Pelvic floor exercises are about the one bit of my physio that I am actually managing to do every day (though apparently you are supposed to do 5 sets of 10 holds for 10 seconds each, every day, and I am definitely not always managing the full five sets! Plus, it turns out, 10 seconds is longer than you think. Plus, it turns out, I lose count very easily).

I had a good incentive though, because after my back went in December I found that every time I coughed (which was a lot in the evenings because I coughed every time I was nauseous) I had ... erm... a small problem. So I am now a fully paid up Tena lady blush

All I can say is the pelvic floor exercises have DEFINITELY helped with that. If I do 3 or more sets each day I can get the problem down to basically zero, but if I miss a day or two it starts to come back... so I definitely recommend doing it, for that reason alone!

Luckily the cough is nearly gone now, but I'm sticking with the Kegels!!

LT 26+0

Trinpy Wed 15-Jan-14 17:17:51

I had the same problem Light blush . Caught a horrible cough back in November that stuck with me for over a month. Definitely a great incentive to do pelvic floor exercises. Thank god I was off work at the time, I would have been mortified to have a 'tena moment' at work. Joys of pregnancy...

I'm dithering over whether to try to carry on working for the next 3 weeks or ask to be signed off sick. I'm in so much pain from the spd again. On Monday I hid in a stock room and had a little cry to myself because I'm so miserable. On the other hand I do enjoy work (now the ends in sight) and its useful to have my full wage for these last few weeks. I haven't been in my current job for long and I'm worried everyone will think I'm lazy if I don't keep up with the work.

Misty9 Wed 15-Jan-14 22:06:27

I'm trying to remember my pelvic floor exercises. I vividly remembering practically peeing myself while on a trampoline....before having any babies blush

Can't remember who asked, but I'm planning a homebirth after my midwife said its fine (despite consultant advising against, but still low risk so can go ahead). Can't decided whether to bother with the pool part or not though - I don't really like swimming, but it's hardly the same I suppose?!

Finished work yesterday! Woohoo! Short term contract and nothing else lined up now until after baby. Time for the real hard work to start, looking after ds 2.4yo full time again grin

Hope your SPD improves trinpy mine is grumbling along with the odd flare up.

28wks (is that 3rd tri then?!)

LeeHandy Thu 16-Jan-14 08:10:59

pelvic exercises! I wonder why I never thought of that during all the tena moments I have been having..blush I am starting them right now.
enjoy your babymoon, spring! hope it's somewhere lovely. grin
dh is finally convinced that his parents should be told not to visit until a month after baby arrives. they are so excited about their first grand child that they wanted to be here before the due date so they didn't miss anything!
They are nice people but I did not want them in the house when I was going to be a mess looking after a new baby. I am much happier to have my mum around because I know I can be cranky and unreasonable with her and it's fine.

LightTripper Thu 16-Jan-14 08:14:57

Sorry the SPD is still bad Trinpy. It must be so hard to know what to do. Part of me would be saying "hang in it's only 3 weeks and has advantages" - but the other part of me says if you are so unhappy you are crying in stock rooms then the advantages may not be big enough to make it worth while. Do you work Mon-Fri? If so is it worth just trying to make it through to the weekend, and then if you are still unhappy at the end of the weekend resolving to talk to your manager on Monday, maybe with a view to finishing that week and then going off? That would be 1 more week full pay and the end would well and truly be in sight?

I seem to be running very behind with the whole pregnancy schedule. I'm still on nausea phase (blech), but on the bright side other than a hasty taste in my mouth from the afternoon it's just evenings (and only really a problem from say 8-9pm most days) no trouble sleeping yet and am going through a fairly energetic phase (thankfully, I have so much work to get done before I go!!!)

Also, and most excitingly, we're more than half way through the week!! Am going to have lunch with one of my best friends on Saturday: her kids are a bit older and she has offered us a cot and maybe even a chest of drawers and some other bits, which would be a great help!

LT 26+1

LeeHandy Thu 16-Jan-14 08:18:31

pelvic exercises! I wonder why I never thought of that during all the tena moments I have been having..blush I am starting them right now.
enjoy your babymoon, spring! hope it's somewhere lovely. grin
dh is finally convinced that his parents should be told not to visit until a month after baby arrives. they are so excited about their first grand child that they wanted to be here before the due date so they didn't miss anything!
They are nice people but I did not want them in the house when I was going to be a mess looking after a new baby. I am much happier to have my mum around because I know I can be cranky and unreasonable with her and it's fine.
trinpy I agree with light. in the larger scheme of things working for 3 weeks more is not going to make that much difference and in my opinion it's much better to be as relaxed and happy as possible at this stage.

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 16-Jan-14 09:53:44

churros I have no idea what they would do very strange. im at the hospital at the moment having blood tests for gt diabetes which entails fasting having a blood test drinking this lemony sugar drink next blood test 1hr later and then apprantly another one another hour no idea what that ones about. also me and other half realised it's our anniversary today of when we met 7 years ago. we both forgot opps.
28 +1 weeks

Trinpy Thu 16-Jan-14 11:04:19

Happy anniversary vikki!

Your post made me look at the date - it's exactly 5 years today since me and dh met. We forgot too blush .

LightTripper Thu 16-Jan-14 11:26:14

OH and I met 20 years ago... now I feel old!!

LightTripper Thu 16-Jan-14 11:26:44

Obviously we were toddlers* at the time ....

* This may be a lie blush

katatonic Thu 16-Jan-14 11:31:54

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Trinpy Thu 16-Jan-14 11:54:57

Sorry to hear you're still feeling sick Light. I wish pregnancy books wouldn't always say that sickness goes away after 1st tri/you won't feel like a beached whale until the last few weeks/etc - it's obviously not true!

I think you're right to ask your PiL not to visit straight away. It's the one time when you really need some time to yourselves to get the hang of looking after a newborn. Plus newborns are a lot more interesting for visitors after the first month.

Thanks for your advice re the spd. I'm seeing my physio tomorrow so hopefully I will feel a bit better after that. I think I'm going to do another week then call it a day.


Inglori0us Fri 17-Jan-14 10:08:54

Hello all. Waiting to see consultant now.
Bloom no I didn't have cholastasis, although they thought I might for a while. My daughter was a very long baby and kicked my liver a lot causing it to get damaged and stop working properly. As my symptoms stopped as soon as she was born there was no follow up. It didn't occur to me to have it checked.
I'm still working 4 days, and am planning to keep going as long as possible as I'm self employed. Tired though. Would love a big rest!
13 weeks to go!

Inglori0us Sat 18-Jan-14 08:40:29

Morning. I've been freaking out since yesterday. Bump is measuring 6 weeks over. I'm being sent for growth scan and GTT a week on Monday. I'm very worried.

nevergoogle Sat 18-Jan-14 11:57:54

Hi inglorious. I'm the same. I'm 28 weeks but measuring 31. Midwife going to remeasure in a couple of weeks but likely for growth scan and GTT if getting big too quickly.
I'm trying to view it as drama for the sake of drama that'll turn out to be nothing to worry about.
As i'm already booked for a c-section at 39 weeks I doubt it will affect the outcome in the long run.
Try not to worry.

patsy375 Sat 18-Jan-14 16:23:00

Try not to worry inglorious.
And def try not to Google too much!
The main thing is they've picked up on it up nice and early and they're looking into it.
Take care.
Patsy 28+6

Inglori0us Sat 18-Jan-14 20:15:19

Thanks ladies. I'm feeling better this evening. My midwife came this evening and has put my mind at rest. (:

Trinpy Sat 18-Jan-14 23:31:13

Glad to hear you're feeling better about it now Inglorious. No point worrying
at this stage. Keep us updated.

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 19-Jan-14 01:24:41

im measuring bigger than I should and weigh more I am trying not to worry as well plus I just did a gt test and have another scan on 31st si it'll get picked up if it's problem and yours will as well. 28 + 4 weeks as it's past midnight

LeeHandy Sun 19-Jan-14 08:54:36

it's hard, but try not to worry inglorious. it's a good thing that this has been picked up and you are having the right tests. my friend was telling me last night that both her children measured large and had to be delivered by c-section 3 weeks early when they were already 8 pounds but both were perfectly healthy and are now a very average sized 6 and 3 years old.
30 weeks tmw!

prettyinpink90 Sun 19-Jan-14 11:47:29

Welcome to the new ladies :-)

We have been for a 4D scan this morning. She was very comfy snuggled up against the placenta which made it hard to get a really good view but it was still really lovely to see her. She's weighing on average too which is good to know.


ChurrosConChocolate Sun 19-Jan-14 16:40:36

Inglorious I echo the others! I know it is impossible not to worry but it's great they are taking it seriously and checking you out so fingers crossed it is nothing to worry about.

pretty 4D scan sounds lovely smile

LightTripper Mon 20-Jan-14 11:02:06

Hi all, just been for my 26 week appointment. Midwife seems happy with everything (even my BP, which is 119/64 - which seems to me to be both nearly high on the top number and nearly low on the bottom number ... but what do I know - if MW is happy I will be happy smile)

Saw my SIL yesterday who brought us a Moses Basket. And went to see my friend on Saturday who has offered us loads of stuff including a cot and chest of drawers, car seat and she has other bits and bobs she seems quite keen to get rid of too... so feeling like we have a lot of things coming together, in theory at least (of course painting hasn't started and house still a tip with things in boxes all over the place as I try to empty furniture so we can move it ... but we'll ignore that for now).

SIL also reminded me that her first was born at 28 weeks (i.e. only 10 days away!!!) Scary thought... but also nice as her daughter is now 8 years old, happy and healthy and bright and it's nice to think that even if she was born that soon my LO could still be alright in the end!

Right, must get back to work... so much to doooo!!!!

LT 26+5

patsy375 Mon 20-Jan-14 12:28:10

Been to see my midwife today too. Seems I have the opposite problem to inglorious and vikki, and my bump isnt big enough! sad
Measures 27 weeks and I'm 29.
Got to go back in 2 weeks to see if growth has improved and if not being referred to the consultant for scan.
Trying very hard to take my own advice and not worry but can't help wondering if my knackered old body has grown a slightly useless placenta and its not feeding my baby well enough. confused
29 +1

LightTripper Mon 20-Jan-14 12:43:06

Sorry to hear everybody is getting worrying measurements. From everything I've read measuring is a very inexact science anyway, so they only use it to decide whether to do further checks, and not as a problem in itself. If you think about how they measure it, there must be at least a couple of cm variation just depending on your shape (of your pelvic structure, and how much your bump is pushed out, etc.) Hope you get reassuring news soon!

Vikkijayne2507 Mon 20-Jan-14 13:55:09

patsy I think everyone worries one way or another I know of women who have had a second check on growth and suddenly baby is much bigger than it was some babies just take their sweet time in growth but either way its good they are keeping an eye.

I had my first ante-natal class today with oh lying down next to me translating he loved it he got to join in with the breathing and almost fell asleep during the relaxing time ahh dear. But it was useful as the nurse running it said he has to keep me calm she said she could see as soon as he came over to me I noticbly relaxed and got into the swing of the class. having the langauge barrier she said its important I feel as calm as possible and that he helps me with all the excercises and to do them at home as much as I can so when the time comes we both will feel confident and labour should be easier than me pancing i dont understand what they are saying or what they want me to do.

Cannotbelieveit Mon 20-Jan-14 19:52:59

Hi everyone sorry to hear of any worrying measurements I'm sure it'll all sort itself out though

I'm just counting down my shifts now, only 10 left!! grin

mamapants Mon 20-Jan-14 20:30:48

light tripper your blood pressure sounds completely normal to me. Unlike mine ha ha which is only 90 over 48. Which at least explains my dizzy spells and tiredeness.

The whole measuring thing is bizarre really. I measured on higher side of the graph through my last pregnancy but my DS was only 6'5. And my dsis measured exactly on the middle line through her pregnancies and her babies were all well over 9pounds.

LightTripper Mon 20-Jan-14 22:20:03

Wow mamapants, that doesn't sound fun!! At least you don't have to worry about preeclampsia I guess (always looking for the silver lining grin)

MrsMyMarbles Tue 21-Jan-14 12:53:13

Hi ladies – can I join you please? I am 30 weeks, I think, I lose track, but am due 1 April, with what will be my DC#3. I wasn’t sure whether to go for this thread, or the March thread, as it is so early in the month! I have not come onto the thread before now because I have had three miscarriages between DC#2 and this pregnancy, and have not felt confident. But as this baby is now giving me some belting kicks and making me nauseous with some of its acrobatic movements, I am feeling more certain of myself.

I had an emergency caesarean in 2006, and a beautiful home VBAC in a pool with an Independent Midwife in 2009. Sadly, an Independent Midwife is not an option this time, mainy because of the EU’s stupid directive, but even if there were IMs to employ, this time we don’t have the money, and so we are in the hands of the NHS for our planned homebirth. I really want a doula, but my DH is sceptical. Is there anyone in a similar position to me, for any of that, who wants to trade stories/give advice?

I know I should probably read back through the last 10 pages to ‘meet’ you all, but I really do need to go get some work done!

I took the step, and have made an ‘impending baby’ announcement (granted it is anonymous – still haven’t told many people – but people are starting to ask now!) and it feels a little more real now.

Next step, unpack, sort and wash all the baby clothes and paraphernalia DH has grudgingly got down from the loft for me!

Trinpy Tue 21-Jan-14 17:36:40

Hi Mrs. Congratulations on the pregnancy, I'm really pleased for you that everything is going well so far with this one. There are several of us on here due at the very beginning of April so you'll fit right in smile . Do you know what you're having or are you leaving it as a surprise? I'm planing to have a homebirth too, though I need to research it properly to find out what I need to have ready at home for it!

Sorry to hear some of you are having worries about bump size atm. I hope the scans are able to give some reassurance.

I'm stopping work tomorrow and will be signed off for 2 weeks from Friday with spd. I feel rubbish about it and there have already been a few comments from colleagues (nothing nasty just 'that's a bit early to stop work isn't it?' type things) which have made me feel worse. I feel so miserable every day I'm there now, I can't wait to leave smile .


Cannotbelieveit Tue 21-Jan-14 19:47:34

Welcome Mrs, glad everything is going well for you!!

LightTripper Tue 21-Jan-14 20:37:58

Welcome to the thread Mrs!!! I suspect we repeat ourselves quite a lot (well, I know I do) so I'm sure you'll pick up the gist in no time smile

Glad you are getting signed off Trinpy. When it's making you that miserable it's just not worth it.

I just had a little work-cry too, for solidarity (/because I felt like it). Unfortunately this is not that uncommon an occurence, and has nothing to do with any legitimate medical complaint, so I just feel a bit pathetic. sad Never mind. Tomorrow is a new day, with no mistakes in it (yet).

Trinpy Tue 21-Jan-14 20:44:58

Oh no, poor you Light sad .

smilesallround247 Tue 21-Jan-14 21:22:08

hola. Can I join in? I'm due 24th April with my first, a little girl grin .
I'll be 27 weeks tomorrow and im counting down until ill meet her.
slightly random question but does anyone else get anxious in general? just today I couldn't shake the feeling hmmconfused

Cannotbelieveit Tue 21-Jan-14 22:00:01

Welcome smiles! I think pregnancy definitely brings out the worrier In all of us!

Any newbies private message me if you want to join our Facebook group. It's completely secret so your posts won't show up to your friends etc

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 22-Jan-14 01:35:31

hi smiles and Mrs welcome never to late to join as it's past midnight im 29 weeks today. Feeling huge nothing looks flattering at the moment and in starting to feel very hungry more often now I never used to finish a plate niw it's always clear and sometimes want seconds eek

smilesallround247 Wed 22-Jan-14 06:50:41

bah I can't sleep, can't get comfy. sob!
ah me too, I can eat huge amounts of food and not feel guilty. ..... Most of the time ha wink

LeeHandy Wed 22-Jan-14 21:22:06

welcome Mrs and smiles! I am 30+2 so just a day ahead of you Mrs.
I hope you can get some rest now trinpy! it's probably better to get some rest no matter what anyone else says.. smile
light..biscuit thanks hope you feel better tmw..
I have been having a couple of baby brain moments today. blush I "wrote" to a client and was annoyed when he asked me an hour later for the material. I couldn't find my email anywhere!! blush blush blush blush

wendle70 Wed 22-Jan-14 21:51:45

Hi smiles and mrs!
I have definitely felt the anxiety levels creeping up! I MUST STOP GOOGLING! Today I saw the midwife and bump is also a little big at 26 weeks+5 (measuring 28) but she wasn't concerned (said only if was about 6 cm over would they look into it) plus I read a 2 cm variation is perfectly normal. As others have said, it can be caused by where the placenta is and all sort of things...or a big baby! Better to be a big un than too little a one in my book but in any event I got the jist from my v experienced midwife that it is an inexact science and not to worry.
I also had a day of trying to convince the hospital to give me a C section today. I think they will give me one - phew.
Can't wait for nursery stuff to arrive. Like light's SIL says, I guess we need to be prepared...
Anyone else getting a maternity nurse in? Have been speaking to them. Looks like have a choice of a strict Nanny McPhee type who will be amazing at getting the baby into a routine and sleeping all night but potentially a bit too strict or a less experienced more relaxed pair of hands who prob won't get the routine working but will be helpful for a bit..
p s did you all see the article on getting babies to sleep on MN today and what we should expect at 3 months, 6 months etc. Useful!

wendle70 Wed 22-Jan-14 21:53:11

pps I too am definitely suffering prego brain and have now misplaced my hospital notes. Marvellous. In fact sometimes I take my vitamin in the morning. Do one other thing and then come back to the shelf and think..did I take my vitamin today? Madness!

LightTripper Thu 23-Jan-14 08:40:05

Thanks for the virtual biscuits/support!

Feeling much better now. Just have the occasional wobble: this year seems so intimidating. I have been basically pretty in control of my life for so long now, but this year brings so many unknowns! Very very exciting, but also a little bit scary sometimes.

One good thing about work avalanche is it leaves me no time to drive myself crazy Googling pregnancy facts, which knowing me is definitely a good thing! Nothing so dangerous as spare time and Google... shock

Welcome to all the new peeps!

LT xx

27+1 <<< HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?????

Trinpy Thu 23-Jan-14 08:44:31

Welcome smiles.

That mn article sounds interesting wendle, I really don't know a lot about babies so I need to get as much advice of what to expect as possible!

My mw told me at my last appointment that bumps often measure a little above the line at the first measurement and then settle down to 'average' after that. Don't know if that's helpful to anyone getting anxious about measuring a little big.

My news is that I became an aunty yesterday!!!! My brother and sil had a baby girl yesterday. I've seen a few photos and she's so tiny and cute envy . Mum and baby are both fine and going home later today.


ChurrosConChocolate Thu 23-Jan-14 09:39:25

Welcome Mrs and smiles and congrats on your pregnancies.

Trinpy congrats on becoming an aunty!! When will you get to have real life cuddles with your new niece? Well done on finishing work, there is no point battling on if in pain, don't worry what others think. What are you going to do with all your maternity leave though?

Sorry to hear that some people are getting worrying measurements, but as others have said it is a very rough guide and just a flag to keep an eye on things so try not to worry too much while waiting to get checked out.

And move away from Google wendle grin. Glad you have convinced them on the C-section front, it is nice to get these things sorted so you can prepare properly. Would love a maternity nurse but couldn't afford one! Would love a doula for the birth and after too but can't justify the cost...

I'm doing my best not to worry! I'm filling myself with positivity otherwise I'm going to really panic after having a tough time emotionally and physically last time. Have read from cover to cover a hypnobirthing book, Ina May's guide to childbirth (recommended!) and have just started on Active Birth by Janet Balankas (sp?). Every night I'm burning relaxing oils, listening to relaxing music and either my husband reads me hypnobirthing relaxations or I listen to the mp3 of them. Also reading positive stories of people having good births after difficult first births, have birth affirmations written on the blackboard in the kitchen and a pic of a baby in optimal position pinned to my noticeboard. Started an antenatal birthing class last night too (gentle stretching, breathing and active birth stuff). Am I obsessed with positive thinking!!??? grin

Also heard from the Birth Centre yesterday that they will accept me!! SOOO happy about this! Just have to clear it with my consultant when I see her on Friday but I feel like a huge weight is coming off my shoulders. smile


Vikkijayne2507 Thu 23-Jan-14 09:57:12

that's good news churros hope it all goes smoothly. I was getting a bit worried about baby's movement but I did feel 10 movements in an hour and heard heartbeat on doppler I think he's moved into a funny position I also have an anterior placenta so that may explain why if he's moved. I have a scan Friday week so hopefully we ve reassured there.
29+ 1 weeks

Trinpy Thu 23-Jan-14 14:46:27

Wow churros sounds like you're really well prepared for the birth already. I hope it pays off and you have a much better experience this time round. I've heard very good things about active birthing and hypnobirthing - definitely seems the way to go for a more relaxed birth.

Db and sil live 3hrs away so I think we will give them a few weeks to settle in to being new parents and then go over. After buying so much boys stuff for my own baby I'm quite excited at the prospect of buying lots of little dresses and leggings!

And I'm in my final year of an open university degree so I've got a few essays to write and my revision notes to get started on before the baby does, plenty to keep me occupied during mat leave. It's actually quite a relief having all this time to focus on it now so I don't have to worry about studying with a newborn.

Trinpy Thu 23-Jan-14 14:48:12

that should have been comes not does. Sounded like I was expecting the baby to do my essays for me!

LightTripper Thu 23-Jan-14 23:57:23

vikki I actually checked with my midwife when she said 10 movements a day, what if you feel 10 movements in half an hour and that's it, is that OK, and she said that was fine. She said if you are having a busy day you may not feel anything, and if you don't feel anything and are worried then sit down quietly for an hour or two (not sure quite how you do that!) and you should feel something (and if not to call them)

So in short if you felt 10 movements in an hour that should be fine!

jen2014 Fri 24-Jan-14 10:59:04

Welcome mrs and smiles!
Can't believe you're finishing a uni course trinpy - I don't know how you find the time and motivation! Feels like time is dragging, won't see my midwife for another 2 weeks - it seems like ages between the 16 and 28 week appts of 2nd pregnancy. I know I shouldn't wish the time away but I just can't wait! My friend is due in 2 weeks so that prob doesn't help.
I have a crib from a friend, and hopefully getting a chest of drawers and wardrobe from another friend today though we still don't have anywhere to put them as nursery is going into current home study which DH needs to clear out! Hopefully he'll do that soon and I can make a start on painting, unpacking clothes etc, which will help with the itchy feet!
Can't decide on nursery theme - have fallen in love with a Winnie the Pooh set in white and bright primary colours but added all together (curtains, bedding, cushions etc) is way more than we can afford. Plus the baby will be in our room for first few weeks anyway so should I just wait for little one to arrive, see what gender it is then choose? Hmmm... hmm
26 + 4

LightTripper Fri 24-Jan-14 11:18:27

Re: nursery decoration, have you seen those wall decals you can get? They are really good because when your little one becomes a bigger one you can change them or remove them very easily! My friend has some great jungle ones, and my OH and I are kind of smitten with this one...

So cute! And the JL picture is even roughly the colour we are painting the room, so I can totally imagine it there now (even though, of course, the room isn't actually painted yet, and we don't actually have any furniture for it yet - but you know, have to get the really important stuff like wall stickers sorted out first).

My OH is having a little op at the moment (tiny thing but general anaesthetic which always makes me nervous) and I am going through a paranoid moment ... really want it to be over and him out and home safe NOW NOW NOW!!! I am distracting myself with spreadsheets, not very succesfully (and MN, obv.)


Misty9 Fri 24-Jan-14 13:33:05

Hey all,
Re room stickers, I'd definitely recommend ones from Becky and lolo website - we got the jungle animals and they are definitely repositionable as they graced the walls of four different houses!
Haven't figured out logistics of new baby beyond it sleeping in our bedroom for first 6 months, so will tackle that one when we need to. I need to get a bedside crib sorted though.

SPD has worsened massively since yesterday and I can hardly move today sad going down the stairs is agony so the toddler is having to help me by fetching things! Hopefully it'll sort itself out in the next couple of days as I'm not sure what I'll do if it's like this until she's born confused

I've decided my frequent Braxton hicks are probably down to dehydration...so trying to up the water intake. Never been good at drinking enough though.

Any tips for getting baby head down? I want a home birth but if she continues to present as transverse then that's out the window! Will pump up the ball when I can find the stopper thingy, but is that enough?


prettyinpink90 Fri 24-Jan-14 15:19:52

light we are also thinking of getting the tree decals for the nursery, they look lovely on the photographs! I just can't decide on a colour scheme now.
At our 4D scan last weekend we were told out baby weighed around 2lb 3oz, this sounds really small and now I'm worrying I'm not giving her enough of what she needs. Does anyone know what the average weight is around 27/28 weeks?

28 weeks today smile

Trinpy Fri 24-Jan-14 15:32:25

pretty the pregnancy app on my phone says 900g for 27 weeks and just over 1kg for 28 weeks. 1kg = 2lb 3oz, so sounds like your baby is spot on smile . It sounds tiny but they have a big growth spurt a bit later on (I think around 31/32 weeks?) and plump up ready to be born.

prettyinpink90 Fri 24-Jan-14 21:15:39

Thank you trinpy that has eased my worries smile

light hope your OH operation went ok?

jen2014 Fri 24-Jan-14 22:17:52

Thanks for the ideas, those wall stickers sound brilliant - I like the car racing ones for DS room! I didn't realise they were transferable but if they can survive 4 house moves they must be!
pretty I have 2 close friends who had their babies at 31 weeks who weighed 3lb 1oz and 3lb 10oz each so 2lb 3oz sounds fine for 28 weeks. As trinpy says they have a big growth spurt later on, I think that's where much of our later weight gain goes.

LightTripper Sat 25-Jan-14 00:07:20

Thanks, OH op went fine! He was home by lunchtime and not in too much pain, so all good.

Painting starts a week on Monday... Will be a real pain, but really looking forward to having it done so we can get properly sorted!

This weekend is for work and tax return though :-(

BunnyBump1 Sat 25-Jan-14 11:40:20

Hi pretty, At my 25 + 4 weeks scan baby weighed 1lb 14 oz and i was told it is within the range. so 2lb 3oz seems to be right for 28 weeks.

ChurrosConChocolate Sat 25-Jan-14 14:32:19

Light glad your OH's op went well! I'm (supposed to be) getting work done this weekend too but currently procrastinating...

misty Sorry to hear SPD is getting worse sad have you seen anyone for it? I wouldn't worry too much about the position yet, transverse is probably fine at the moment but have a look at the spinning babies website if you want some ideas on how to get them to move.

trinpy yeah, I'm prepared for the birth but less so for the actual baby! Need to start thinking about that soon.... Good you have Uni stuff to keep you busy, try and get as much done as you can while you get the chance!

Vikki apparently the guidelines on movements have changed and they don't say 10 movements anymore, just note what is normal for your baby and report any unusual changes. The count the kicks website is useful.

My DS has some jungle wall stickers in his room, they look really good, better than I expected really (although he did manage to remove one and ruin it the first day they were up!)

Saw consultant yesterday. Everything looking good and they have give me the green light to go the Birth Centre in the first instance! YAY! grin They will be overly cautious about transferring me if anything is not going well though, and I still have to hope the rest of the pregnancy goes well and baby gets in a good position, I don't need inducing, etc but fingers crossed I can have a nice, natural waterbirth in the ever so lovely MLU smile


BlessedAssurance Sat 25-Jan-14 16:12:58

Hi all. Have been lurking for a while.It seems a few of us are worrying about thes size og our little ones and in my case my MW told me the baby might be big for my frame!! Ha? I did not know. I just assumed all women carry babies and should be able to give birth,all the crap i have read that says our bodies are made for this. So now i might end up with another c- section again, not a problem as long as my little one comes out...Is it normal?

patsy375 Sat 25-Jan-14 20:02:39

Is what normal blessed?

LeeHandy Sun 26-Jan-14 09:41:24

Hi everyone,

I had a rough couple of days with very little sleep and it was lovely to sleep 9 hours straight last night.

On nursery decorating, I bought the jomoval farmyard animals set and they are all much cheaper on Amazon if anyone hasn't bought them yet but plans to. I haven't put them up yet because it says to wait three weeks if the room is freshly painted. Maybe I will do it today.

Yesterday was my friend's baby shower and it went really well. my shower is in 2 weeks so looking forward to that now. smile

I had my 30 week appointment and I measured 29 cm so just about average. the good news was that baby has already turned so I don't have to worry about breech.
my friend's baby is breech though and she is planning on trying a Chinese medicine treatment where they burn some incense under the soles of the feet and she has been told it has a 70% success rate! I hope it works.

misty sorry to hear your Spd was worse. take care!

Cannotbelieveit Sun 26-Jan-14 09:42:44

Just checking in ladies!

Only 7 more shifts at work now and last day of work is feb 9th!!

Back still aching and still feeling like I've been kicked down below confused

27+1 tho! 3 months today baby is due!grin

Misty9 Sun 26-Jan-14 12:30:03

Thanks for the sympathy ladies smile
churros I see an osteopath but as I'm not that misaligned, there's not a lot more she can do.

Thankfully it's a LOT better today. The night before last as I went to lie down in bed I was in excruciating pain and could barely move sad dh was less than sympathetic too. Not sure what aggravated it so, but glad it's resolved a bit.

blessed I think in general your body does grow a baby of a size which you can birth - but your other half's genes play a large part, literally! In our case, I was 6lb something but dh was a 10lb baby shock so ds ended up being 9lb. However, accurately detecting a baby's size before birth is notoriously difficult, so I wouldn't worry too much just yet.

trinpy I was finishing my doctorate when pregnant with ds and I definitely recommend getting as much done before the birth as possible! Saying that, I found it very hard to concentrate and left my amendments until he was born...when my motivation disappeared completely. Got it done eventually though. Good luck!

Am quite enjoying being unemployed again grin though ds is keeping me busy. He's started cuddling the bump and saying "sister" which melts our hearts smile

LightTripper Sun 26-Jan-14 18:36:55

Oh Misty ... I just almost had a small tear when I read about your DS... that is so sweet!!!

I have been working all weekend, and haven't even tackled the tax return yet. Ah well, that will have to be in front of the TV tonight with a well deserved glass of vino. Hmmm... bugger.

Sorry to hear about everybody's aches and pains. Feeling very lucky as mine are pretty much better (had better find some wood to touch!) Have just realised I am less than 3 months to go too!!! Does that mean I'm officially third trimester? That sounds scary...

LT xx

Trinpy Sun 26-Jan-14 19:39:05

Glad youre feeling better today misty. It's a shame your dh wasn't more sympathetic. I (only half jokingly) suggested to my dh that I kick him in the balls from time to time so he can understand what spd feels like. He got a lot more
sympathetic after that grin . Hope you can get plenty of rest though I know it must be difficult if you've got ds to look after. I'm very impressed that you finished your doctorate while pregnant. Everytime I start procrastinating I imagine being snuggled up on the sofa with my newborn in April knowing the degree work is all done. It's been a great motivator so far!


Misty9 Sun 26-Jan-14 21:11:48

You sound more motivated than I was smile
I would suggest that to dh, but after bringing up the vasectomy topic again I think he's feeling a bit sensitive about his balls! grin I've ordered a snoozle maternity sheet so hopefully that'll help.


Inglori0us Sun 26-Jan-14 22:37:07

Hello all.
eBay is great for wall stickers. My dd has trees, flowers and birds and it looks ace and cost about £20 to do the whole room. Just make sure the seller is in uk if you're in a rush. I ordered a set from Hong Kong and they took 6 weeks to come.
I've got the dreaded GTT tomorrow so I'm fasting now til at least 11.30am. sad
Also having a growth scan tomorrow as measuring large for dates. Fingers crossed all's ok.

iloveweetos Sun 26-Jan-14 23:12:02

Hi everyone! Just checking in to see how everyone is smile
Starting to feel worried about everything at the moment. From the house to the birth to bonding. Gosh just want her here already!!! But at the same time not yet! Lol

iloveweetos Sun 26-Jan-14 23:16:15

Could I join the Facebook group? I couldn't private message you smiles for some reason ?

Cannotbelieveit Sun 26-Jan-14 23:59:19

It's me you can message about the Facebook group grin

Vikkijayne2507 Mon 27-Jan-14 00:30:41

iloveweetos I've been feeling really anxious recently about everything really just imagining the birth and dreaming of the crying nights made me worried

iloveweetos Mon 27-Jan-14 04:33:01

Oh gosh me too! Worrying about breast feeding, overbearing family, how dd1 will be, etc etc lol good job back at work in a few hours. (No idea why I'm awake, been tossing and turning all night) hmm DH is snoring away....jealous!

MrsMyMarbles Mon 27-Jan-14 14:19:43

Hi everyone, and thanks to Trinpy, Cannotbelieveit, LightTripper, Vikkijayne2507, LeeHandy, wendle70, Churros and jen2014 for welcoming me to the thread.

To Trinpy, we’re not finding our gender, it’ll be a lovely surprise either way. We’ll have to share our homebirth plans – I am definitely getting hold of a birth pool again! Some good links to follow here: http://www.homebirth.org.uk/ Love this site!

wendle70, are you keen to get baby into a routine asap? I always found that trying to impose my routine on my older two didn’t work – I tried letting them ‘cry it out’ and all the other Gina Ford style suggestions to get them to do what I wanted, but found, quite simply, they would sleep when they wanted to, call for comfort when they needed it, and that, in the end, we were all much happier following their ques. Although, I can’t quite get my head around the full baby-led attachment parenting as baby will have to fit in with the school run and after school clubs etc., but I will certainly be in no rush to force a strict 4 hours feed/sleep schedule. That comes soon enough, and the stress of trying to do so nearly broke my heart! There are some great questions to find out what style of parenting might suit you here: http://www.nct.org.uk/parenting/approaches-parenting

Vikkijayne2507 and iloveweetos, do you think it helps to know other people are anxious too? If I’m not worried about something, I think I’d worry!

It is great getting the room prepared, but by prepared I mean putting the baby’s things in the chest of drawers in the spare room. We won’t actually set it up as a nursery until baby moves out of our room, around 6 months old – ish (my other two were a bit younger than that, if I remember correctly). We will leave the sofa bed in there, because having that for DH to sleep on so he can get a good night’s sleep when baby or I are unsettled, or for when parents stay over to help out, is infinitely more valuable to us than having the cot all set up.

I am getting excited now, getting things out of the loft and writing my list of things I need to get. I got my nappies out (we use cloth) and I forgot just how cute they were! I have my gorgeous little Kissaluvs with their fold down bit for the umbilical cord, and then my ultra fluffy Tots Bots and my funky colour Motherease! There are even more great nappies available now, but DH says I can’t have many more (he didn’t actually specify a number, so I think ‘many’ is subjective!). Anyone else going for cloth, even just part-time?

Trinpy Mon 27-Jan-14 18:27:22

Thanks for the website link Mrs! We're planning on using cloth nappies too. They are really cute aren't they? I can't wait to try them out. Did you use them from newborn?

Saw my mw today. I've gone from measuring on the 93rd centile to 68th so was sent for a growth scan. I wasn't too worried because I know a few of us on this thread have been sent for growth scans now, so I guessed they just have to be cautious. Luckily everything looked ok on the scan and baby weighs about 3lb 7oz at the moment smile .


LeeHandy Mon 27-Jan-14 20:05:49

I am stressed now. I had a bit of brown spotting today and called my consultant hoping he would say it's nothing to worry about. but he said that I need to rest and if it happens again tmw I need to stay home and get some rest for a few days as it may be a sign of pre-term labour.
only 31 weeks today!

LightTripper Mon 27-Jan-14 21:44:06

Lee, poor you. Sounds stressful.
Hope a day or two rest sorts it. In fact my niece and nephew were born at 28 weeks and 31 or 32 weeks respectively, and have had no health or other problems at all (both growing well, doing well at school, lovely fun kids) so I know it's scary but at least you are far enough through that the outcome could still be perfect.

Sending hugs and virtual cake xx

Misty9 Mon 27-Jan-14 22:06:56

lee sorry to hear that! sounds stressful. I had a bit of bleeding last week when wiping after going to the toilet, but put it down to having done the hoovering earlier that day (heavy Hoover) and having just done a big poo... blush have you done anything strenuous today? Hope it settles down.

mrs we used cloth with ds from birth and planning to with this one too. I'm yet to sort out the nappies but have some tiny newborn bumgenius ones which will get me going no doubt smile

We've had eventful day with morning at A&E for ds who had blood in his nappies. All fine though and he seems to be conquering his fear of hospitals, yey! The amount of time we spend in that place is unbelievable.

Must. Go. To. Bed and not fart about on mn for hours then be knackered the next day


Cannotbelieveit Mon 27-Jan-14 22:30:25

Mrs just seen your message and replied! Sorry! grin

smilesallround247 Tue 28-Jan-14 09:00:06

Anyone had the whooping cough vaccine? I've just had mine and it really hurts! I'm a wimp when it comes to injections but fine when I got tattoos hmm .
hope everyone is doing ok xbiscuit

Trinpy Tue 28-Jan-14 10:29:24

Lee - I know it's easy to say, but please don't get stressed! Lots of women get bleeding during pregnancy and go to term. I'm sure your consultant was just being extra cautious. I hope the bleeding has stopped now.

smiles my arm and neck ache always hurt for days after a jab. I'm a wimp too grin .

LightTripper Tue 28-Jan-14 10:47:10

Haven't had mine yet smiles - I am only 28 weeks next week, so planning to book it in with my 30 week midwife appointment (though actually that reminds me that I must book both - thanks!!)

ChurrosConChocolate Tue 28-Jan-14 10:53:37

Lee hope all is ok today and no more spotting? I always thought brown spotting wasn't too much of a concern as that was old blood but hope you are taking the advice to rest and not feeling too stressed.

Mrs I used cloth nappies from birth with DS and will this time too. I love them but am trying not to buy anymore as I really don't need them. I mostly used muslins when DS was a newborn though (which were great as you could fold them to fit and they dried super quick) but I get £20 from the council so I think I'll spend that on a couple more newborn sized nappies.

Misty hope your DS is ok, that sounds stressful. My DS has an ear infection so we are having a quiet day at home today.

Trinpy glad all was ok with the growth scan, just proves for other people with worrying measurements that it is not always an indication of a problem.

Hope everyone else is well!


Vikkijayne2507 Tue 28-Jan-14 22:31:27

thanks Mrs it does help. I've had a bad day very emotional for no reason but I made a chocolate cake and that was yummy baby then kicked me in appreciation of the chocolate sugar rush. I had a bad nights sleep awful heartburn and was sick so didn't start day well but cheerier now. 29+ 6 weeks

LightTripper Tue 28-Jan-14 23:07:14

He'll all! Have been woken up by cramp in my foot two nights in a row now. Hope I sleep through tonight! Anybody else had cramp? I end up stamping around my room at 2 in the morning and it is freezing. Maybe I'll try bed socks tonight!

On the plus side I have just made my first ever eBay auction purchase, a Tricot Slen sling. Hope it is good when I get it. Was much cheaper than new so thought it was worth a go!

LeeHandy Wed 29-Jan-14 07:09:46

Hi everyone, thanks for the messages. it was the same yesterday but luckily my consultant was more reassuring because nothing further happened apart from the spot. if I have spotting again today he has asked me to go in for a swab. I am also feeling better that it hasn't escalated and it just seems to be a bit of old blood from somewhere. baby has been especially active last few days so I am hoping it had something to do with that and not to do with having a 16 hour day going up to Manchester and back on Saturday and then running to catch a train on the way home
I also had pain in my arm for 3-4 days after my whooping cough jab and am not normally a wimp, so I think it is something to do with the jab.. grin

LightTripper Wed 29-Jan-14 07:36:18

Glad it is stable and consultant is being more reassuring (and also that I am not the only person carrying on as normal and then worrying afterwards that I've pushed it!). Hopefully that does mean you've just dislodged some old blood?

Really hard to believe that pregnancy is really the best way nature could think of to produce a baby sometimes.... grin

LeeHandy Wed 29-Jan-14 07:58:35

yes, it seems like other mammals don't have to suffer as much..grin I went for my first nct class yesterday and it was nice, though the teacher spent more than an hour dissing hospitals and advocating home births.
light I also woke up twice yesterday with cramp in my leg. I hope it doesn't become a regular feature now! shock

LeeHandy Wed 29-Jan-14 08:22:41

also light I forgot to mention that it was reassuring to hear that your niece and nephew are doing fine after being born so early. I felt better knowing that even if I was going to go into labour it would only affect my schedule and baby would be alright at the end. xx

Trinpy Wed 29-Jan-14 11:23:09

Glad to hear that your consultant was more reassuring yesterday Lee. Hope you don't have anymore spotting.

I'd heard some nct teachers can be a bit overly pro home/natural birth. Its one of the things that put me off the classes (main thing that put me off was the cost shock ). Hospital births make me a bit nervous so I only want to hear good things about them in case I end up having to have one, iyswim. Saying that, there's an active birth class at my old workplace which I'm considering. Knowing my old colleagues I'm fully expecting an evening of homeopathic pain relief recommendations and realigning our chakras grin .


LightTripper Wed 29-Jan-14 11:47:00

Oh good Lee - I didn't know whether to say or not, because I didn't want to say that I thought baby would come early, just that it could still be OK anyway even if the "worst" happens. It's really difficult to know what other people will find reassuring or panic-making!!

Anyway, glad it is all settling down now, so hopefully even your schedule will be OK too grin

BlessedAssurance Wed 29-Jan-14 11:56:57

Hi all. Lee glad all is well. Light i have cramps here and there, only this time a lot less. I am chuffed because my boss told me to stop work yesterday. My mat leave was tarting on 1st feb but she said it could start today [ grin] lovely woman. She has two kids of her oewn so she knows what it is like.
My male bosses however were asking me to continue part time, i work from 7-3 and stands all day. The job is very physical as well, i was mad that they would expect me to keep working. Thank heavens female boss sorted it.

ChurrosConChocolate Wed 29-Jan-14 15:01:42

Lee glad you've had some reassurance and are feeling better. Maybe just your body telling you to take it easy for a bit?

Light I had the worst cramp in my leg the other night. It was agony!!! It still ached the next day. I read that calcium helps so I'm going to have a glass of hot milk every night from now on.

blessed yay for finishing work!! What are your plans for maternity leave?

Just had a doula around for a chat. She's a trainee so a lot cheaper than a fully fledged one but still not cheap. I would be her first birth. Not sure whether I'll hire her or not, she was very nice. Need to have a think about things some more. Got my birthing class tonight and seeing the midwife tomorrow. It's all starting to feel very imminent!
We've started talking to DS about the baby this week (otherwise he just thinks I've eaten too many cakes - he said 'you're fat Mummy' the other day!). He told me at lunchtime he wants a baby girl and we should call her 'Spiderman, baby or Susan' grin We've been reading the book 'There's going to be a baby' to him which is where he's got those names from!
27+ 5

prettyinpink90 Wed 29-Jan-14 16:59:48

Hi ladies!

Glad you're feeling better lee after some reassurance from the consultant!

Does everyone need to have the whooping cough vaccine? My midwife hasn't mentioned anything.

Had my 28 week midwife appointment today. We are both doing fine and baby was head down which explains the movement just under my ribs. The midwife asked me if I had considered a MLU or a home birth (I've considered neither). She was very keen on me considering these options if not slightly pushy about it. Is this the norm?


prettyinpink90 Wed 29-Jan-14 17:58:09

Oh and the midwif measured me and I'm slightly over average but at my 4D scan last weekend they said her weight was slightly under average. I wonder who's right???

Trinpy Wed 29-Jan-14 18:02:19

pretty - they recommend the whooping cough jab for all pregnant women now. You can have it anytime between 28 weeks and the time your baby is born. Just make an appointment with your gp surgery.

And ignore your pushy mw. It's not fair to try to push women to give birth somewhere they're not comfortable with.

LightTripper Wed 29-Jan-14 18:04:53

Churros, that is cute! I will try the hot milk. Have been having quite a bit of calcium I think, but haven't been doing vits every day since I passed 3-4 months, so am trying to go back to that. Somewhere else I read bananas/nuts (for potassium and magnesium), so will try to sneak some of those into the diet too...

Pretty the NHS e-mail thingy I signed up for does suggest they want everybody to get it. The benefit is that it can give your baby immunity as soon as they are born - when they are still too little to have an injection themselves. I am planning to have mine in a couple of weeks when I go in for my 30 week appointment. Here is the NHS page for it. You can just get your practice nurse at the GP to do it. http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/whooping-cough-vaccination-pregnant.aspx

My midwife also very keen on homebirth (or a "lovely home birth" as she calls it - there seem to be no other type available smile). Where I am at Homerton I think the MLU is the "standard" unless there are medical reasons or you explicitly ask to be on the ward or to have a home birth. TBH I am quite happy with that as it looks a lot nicer than the wards anyway!! But at Homerton you can move from the MLU to the medical bit pretty easily if there are any problems I think, and I imagine that must be the case most places?

LT xx

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 29-Jan-14 18:28:45

sad day the family dog passed away suddenly unexpectedly devastated and hormones don't help with crying. he was 9 the craziest most loving labrador called zeus. All ny crying has made baby move a lot it makes me a bit sad he won't get to meet the dog sounds silly but I was looking forward to zeusy sniffing him trying to get a lick in when he knows not to. he lived with parents but was my dog sad gunna really miss him

LeeHandy Wed 29-Jan-14 19:52:26

Vikki sorry to hear about your dog. it's very sad when anyone loses their dog, but unexpectedly sort of makes it worse. thanks hope you feel better soon.

LeeHandy Wed 29-Jan-14 19:58:44

churros your ds sounds adorable, I like the name options! blessed it's great that your boss was understanding and let you go early. hope you can relax for a while now.
pretty I was told about the vaccine at my first appointment but after that no one reminded me. I was told anytime between 28 and 34 weeks. the vaccine combines whooping cough, diphtheria and tetanus so is a pretty useful one to get.
light I always start by thinking "what's the worst that can happen?" and work my way up from there. smile

BlessedAssurance Wed 29-Jan-14 20:32:44

* vikki* sorry about your dad. That really sucks.
churros don't askgrin i intend to clean the house till it begs for mercy. We moved in a little over a year ago and i have not got to putting pics on the wall yet. Then baby clothes,lots to do,i need to wash,iron and pack them in the drawer which DD was using so have to move her clothes to her closet. Then the rest of my time shall be spent on MN, the most important thing in my opiniongrin.
pretty your midwife is crazy. You give birth where you feel comfortable most. If she wants a homebirth the she can get pregnant and have one herself. Cheeky woman!!!WRG to the vaccine we don't get it here in Norway. It is not offered. I got the flu vaccine though.
lee thanks. I intend to use my relaxing time wisely, on Mn

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 30-Jan-14 01:35:33

thanks guys I kinda needed to vent earlier. I think dogs become such important family members for a decade its really hard to lose them even though you know they won't be around forever. hope everyone else is ok today

Cannotbelieveit Thu 30-Jan-14 09:32:51

Really sorry about your dog Vicki! They are definitely part of your family. I've grown up with cats and dogs and the love they bring is worth the pain they leave when they go

My cat Benz that id had since I was 17 died in November suddenly of a stroke and he was in perfect health, I'd had visions of DS1 growing up with him (he'd been so lovely and gentle with him) and I was looking forward to seeing how DS2 got on with him.

We had him cremated and I had some of his ashes put into a ring I wear everyday (this might sound odd to some but I don't mind!)

ChurrosConChocolate Thu 30-Jan-14 14:23:58

Vikki so sorry about your dog. We lost our family dog last year and I was very upset, and he was very old and it wasn't at all unexpected so I can imagine how sad you must feel about it coming out of the blue sad. Hope you are ok and being gentle on yourself.

pretty I think some midwives can be very pro natural birth (others less so!) but also I think if you are low-risk and all is going well they feel obliged to let you know that there are other options other than a hospital birth. Totally up to you whether you want to explore them or not though.

blessed glad you have plenty to keep you busy over the next couple of months smile

Had my 28 week midwife this morning. All well (apart from DS is going through a very 'helpful' phase and wanted to 'help' with my urine sample, blood pressure and blood tests grin ) They said I could get my whooping cough vaccine there and then but then when I went to get it the nurse said she didn't want to give it as I'm not actually 28 weeks til tomorrow hmm. It doesn't matter, I'll just nip in and get it sometime in the next few weeks.

BlessedAssurance Thu 30-Jan-14 14:30:48

vikki i just realised my ipad changed dog to dad, i have no idea why..

BlessedAssurance Thu 30-Jan-14 14:43:36

churros you are so lucky. My DD has gone from ' i love you mummy,you are the mummy ever' to ' mummy i hate you and you are stupid' All words learned in kindergaten and i miss my cuddly happy go little girl. She is lovely to her dad and just about everyone, only not me.

Sometimes when i go to fetch her from daycare she does not run to me happily like before,she will ask if i brought a surprise first, if i say yes then fine,if no then it would an hour before i finally leave the daycare..makes me very sad but i know it is because she has been my everything and now i am pregnant,can not carry her and play on the floor with her,being involved in her boring games with faked enthusiasm as before. I am too tired most of the time and she hates all that. However she is so thrilled that she is getting a brother and even when she is mad or throwing a tantrum, she is always quick to tell me that she has no problem with the baby, which she calls JJ but just mad at me.. I feel for her and try to be patient but sometimes i lose it..Gosh, that was long, sorry all, just wanted to offload.

BlessedAssurance Thu 30-Jan-14 14:43:59

The best mummy ever

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 30-Jan-14 16:22:54

blessed it sounds very frustrating and upsetting. I used to work in a nursery and lots of the children went through similar issues we tended to ask the parents if we could help ib anyway one mum constantly brought surprises for the child but it can make life difficult longer term. The nursery may be able to help with the going home and she can get the message is the same from mummy and nursery. just an idea ignore if not applicable

BlessedAssurance Thu 30-Jan-14 20:02:27

vikki i work in a nursery as wellgrin so totally agree with you, that is why she does not get a surprise anymore. I can not raise her to think if she does not get her own way then i have to pay for it somehow. I just tell her i am ready when she is then sits patiently ignoring the tantrum. Works all the time. It is just frustrating. I kept her home with me today and played her games with her, she was ok, no tantrum whatsoever. She actually got bored because i did not know the rules to the game so she wants to go to nursery tomorrow..great. Even bed time was great but i understand that being in daycare from 8-3 is tiresome. Here in Norway kids go for long walks whether it rains or it is sunny. They are in the snow outside for ages and they get tired. I hate it for the small kids..

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 31-Jan-14 03:35:15

blessed ut does sound a long day for litte uns I bet they are super tired which will not help temper tantrums. keep doing what your doing sounds like it's working well despite being bloody frustrating at times.
I have a 3rd scan tomorrow at 11am excited ti see baby again hes been kicking loads this evening especially late at night belly wiggles loads so for a standard scan I think and hope all is well im curious to see if baby is big in size or uf in just fat eek
30 + 2 weeks as it's past midnight

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 31-Jan-14 15:08:39

I had scan all is well he's apprantly approx 3lbs 7 already at 30 + 2 or 4 weeks. The woman put me back onto + 4. also got a surprise 3d look at him which was awesome he was shy though and was hiding behind umblical cord chewing it and playing. saw him swallow. definitely a boy could see that clearly and he's now head down as I though due to kicks under my ribs
30 + 2 or 4

LeeHandy Sat 01-Feb-14 20:56:54

blessed sounds like you have to do some tough balancing there... good luck!
Vikki that's so precious! it's amazing you could see all of that. grin dh and I went to Costco today to buy nappies and went completely overboard. we ended up spending more than 400 pounds. blush blush blush blush that place is dangerous!

LightTripper Sun 02-Feb-14 22:15:40

Ooh... Puffy ankles! But that's ok/normal in the evenings right? Haven't noticed it before, but have been standing a lot today.

Cannotbelieveit Mon 03-Feb-14 08:30:21

28 week MW appt today. GTT was all clear last week and bloods all came back fine (iron levels etc)

(4 shifts left at work!)

ChurrosConChocolate Mon 03-Feb-14 10:43:53

blessed that sounds tough. How old is she? I think it is tough going from being an only child to having to share mum and dad. My DS is only 2.5 so I don't think he really understands.

Vikki scan sounds lovely smile nice to get another peek at your baby boy.

Light I've never suffered too much with puffiness but it is normal, especially if on your feet a lot. Make sure you elevate them in the evening and maybe do some circling and flexing.

Cannot good luck with MW, and glad bloods and GTT were ok. Yay for finishing work soon too!

Feeling sorry for myself today as have bad lower back pain. It's a long-term problem that flares up every now and then but all the best ways I normally stretch it out don't work very well with a bump in the way. Moving hurts! Hoping it just loosens off soon otherwise I might have to get it seen to.

28 + 3

patsy375 Mon 03-Feb-14 11:41:46

churros I've been suffering with my back too usually when I've been to work.
I know what you mean about not being able to stretch in the usual way. sad
I have found heat really helpful though. Ive invested in a wheat bag which you can heat in the microwave and spent many an evening with that on my lower back.
Also for times when I cant use the wheat bag ive found those heat patches are great esp when I'm working. You stick them on, they warm up and last for 12 hours you can buy them off the shelf in big supermarkets.
Obviously no 2 lots of back pain are the same so it may not work for everyone but its worth a go and is safe for baby as no medication is involved.
I had horrible lower back pain yesterday morning after my night shift but after an evening with my wheat bag and a night with a heated patch I feel like a new woman smile

LightTripper Mon 03-Feb-14 12:03:09

Churros, sorry to hear your back is bad again. My physio has given me some "pregnancy alterntives" to normal exercises etc. as I have had similar recurrent back flare ups.

E.g. for cat stretch, although it is not recommended to do it on all fours like normal (because of the weight of the bump), you can do it standing up (just arch backwards - need to make sure you have a door frame or something to hang on to in case you lose stability!) That one feels nice.

The other one I like is an arm opening stretch. You basically lie on your side in recovery position with your arms in front of you, and then stretch the top arm over your body and behind you (so right over the top - only as far as is comfy) - gives a nice stretch across the middle.

Hope you feel better soon!

Misty9 Mon 03-Feb-14 14:24:21

churros I have recurrent back problems too and my osteopath said the best stretch for lower back pain is actually to the side - so bend to each side and feel the vertebrae unclicking. I love it! Also recommend wheat bag.

vikki aww! what a lovely scan description. So you're ahead of me now then? grin I've got a final scan next Friday to check placenta position. Never had such a late one so will be interesting to see what we can see. Hopefully she's head down by now...

Does anyone else not feel particularly huge? I'm nearly 31wks but sometimes feel like bump isn't that prominent then I look in the mirror mind you, I remember getting to 36wks or so last time and being incredulous that I could get any bigger, as indeed I did!

Suppose I better source a birth pool if that's what I want. Still trying to decide on crib options at the moment. Picking up the double pushchair tomorrow and quite excited smile


ChurrosConChocolate Mon 03-Feb-14 14:54:57

Thanks for sympathy and suggestions patsy, light and misty. I've been trying a few different stretches but can't quite get it to full satisfaction! It's not really my back I suppose, it is more my bum (top of ITB) so back stretches don't really get it. I'm sure I've got a wheat bag somewhere though, hadn't thought of that - I'll dig it out!

misty, no, don't feel that big either. I keep trying to squeeze through spaces and realise I don't fit though! Mind you, that could be my terrible spatial awareness grin

LightTripper Mon 03-Feb-14 18:11:00

Do you get sciatic pain with it too Churros? I always find once that gets going there is not much that can stop it ... just rest until the muscle stops twinging it (to use the technical term grin)

Quite hard to mix with stretching. When I first saw my physio she said not to do stretches if they were hurting the sciatic nerve, as you don't want to irritate it more (so even if you are helping the muscle long term, if you are irritating the nerve hold off and try something different). E.g. my hamstrings are very tight, but when I first put my back out hamstring stretches would really jangle the sciatic nerve - so she advised me to hold off until that stopped happening.

Once the initial spasm is over (which I use ice on for the first few days if the muscle feels hot), I also find a hot shower is very soothing. I actually think a hot shower in the evening tends to make my nausea a bit better too, although I can't imagine why that would be!!

I've also been bumping into things... have to get used to the idea that I am not much (if any!) narrower sideways any more!!

Decorator started this morning. Reckon he is going to be here most of the rest of the month (he is doing 4 rooms, so quite a lot to get through - eek!) But will be lovely to get it done.


Vikkijayne2507 Mon 03-Feb-14 18:58:37

misty I think Dr will keep me at the same one as he said before he'll stick with the 12 week scan as it's most accurate. I'll find out if I need more scans in Friday when I'll be 31 + 2 weeks from original dates as I have a sneaking suspicion that he's gunna say that I have gestational diabetes baby is bigger than should be and wants me to have rigid diet and checks booo I hate being told what I can and cannot eat esp as my only craving has been for mozerella cheese and ice cream with chocolate sauce. I haven't had any ice cream tbh but I really want some.
30 + 5 wks

BlessedAssurance Mon 03-Feb-14 20:17:59

churros when i have back aches there are two or three things that help, a massage, warm water,i stand in the shower and let the water run on my back for as long as i can endure and that heat thingy pantsy told you about. The pain is normally right above my bum so it feels like the bone wants to break when i get these aches. Thank God i have been ok for a while now.
WRG to DD, she is gonna be 4 when the baby comes and knows he is coming around the same time as her birthday.
lee thanks. I need all the luck i can get.
vikki luckily for DD i have always hated kids being in nursery for such a long time. I had to quit my job and became a temp at a nursing home because it is 5min walk from our house. That means Dh could drop her 8.30 and i could fetch her at 3. If i had not quit then i would have only managed to fetch her a few min before 5 and that is horrible.
Believe it or not some parents drop off kids at7.30 and pick up 5. Sad sad.
32 weeks today. Time is moving ladies...

BlessedAssurance Mon 03-Feb-14 20:24:35

Just to not confuse you ladies. I work in a nursery and nursing home. Both jobs are part-time because i was studying so needed to be flexible. Having both enabled me to have a fair income without being committed 100% to any of them...

Actually am now on mat-leave. The only thing i am not enjoying is the paperwork involved. Whe we bought our home we did not fill in so many papers,really boring...

MrsMyMarbles Tue 04-Feb-14 12:12:08

Trinpy I love cloth nappies, and yes, I used them from newborn with DC2. The beauty of using them from newborn is that you don’t need waterproof overs right away, as they wee so little it doesn’t soak through the nappy! So you get to see that lovely fluff on a cute newborn. My biggest piece of advice to anyone buying cloth nappies is to NEVER EVER buy a birth to potty set before trying them on your baby first! All babies come in different shapes and sizes, and so do nappy brands! Different nappy brands sizing will suit different babies. Try to get hold of a couple of different types first, try a nappy hire kit from a nappy agent, and see which type work for you. I have had so many parents say ‘I tried cloth nappies, and they didn’t work’ and I ask what brands they tried, and they give only one brand name! I loved the fluffy Tots Bots, and was going to use them on my son (DC1)but when he was born, he was very long and, bless him, his little willy poked over the top as the rise was too short (btw Tots Bots suit the more cuddly baby best) so I ended up with Motherease as my workhorse nappy for him, as they have a longer rise. Also, you only need to wash at 60 degrees for the first 3 months. After that 40 degrees is enough to sterilise them. Don’t use fabric conditioner on them, as it reduces the absorbency.

Misty9 I love the colours of Bumgenius – they don’t seem to fade!

Churros Oooh yes – muslins are good newborn nappies! Did you use nippas, or just fold them into a wrap?

Vikki so sorry to hear about your dog.

To everyone considering homebirth, I am a real advocate of it, having had CD1 in hospital (via emergency caesarean) and DC2 at home, and it was such a better experience all round, and if your midwife is keen on homebirth AND YOU WANT IT, go for it! I am ‘high risk’ so am not ‘allowed’ to use the birthing unit and am advised ‘very strongly’ against homebirth. So we hired an IM for DC2 to avoid all that negativity at the birth. It looks very much like I am going to be able to have an IM this time too – so I am super, super chuffed! My IM has agreed a payment plan for after April!!! I am feeling very lucky, and it means I am now going to actually get some antenatal care! We would have gone for a doula had this not come about as I hate the way the vulnerability of any birthing woman, and the naivety and inexperience of a first time mother, is completely ignored in the hustle and bustle of an over-stretched NHS environment, and having someone who is not emotionally attached to you, but knows you birth wishes and can speak lucidly for you and your partner is something, I think, is absolutely essential, especially if you are going into hospital! Churros even a doula on her first attendance will be able to offer you that support!

LeeHandy I love this article – to me, it totally shows why birthing animals seem to suffer less than birthing humans: http://www.pregnancy.com.au/birth-choices/homebirth/out-of-the-laboratory-back-to-the-darkened-room.shtml. That’s why I am avoiding hospital. But for many people, the comfort of knowing medical intervention is local is enough (but do remember that if you go into an emergency situation, you may still be waiting some time, for example the official guidelines for going from the decision by the consultant to have a caesarean section to the operation being performed is 45 minutes). I just think it is a shame that women’s choices are not supported, whatever a woman chooses!

Ladies, please forgive me my strong opinion, I totally respect a woman’s ability to decide for herself, but I am not announcing this to the world at large, so this is really my only sounding board to focus myself on my upcoming birth!

I don’t get on here often, so you don’t have to suffer me much!

Keep well ladies. Look after those bumps and little ones around you!

patsy375 Tue 04-Feb-14 16:26:35

Sorry marbles but I feel I have to let any of the mums on here planning to have a hospital birth know that your comment re a 45 min wait for a caesarean is not entirely true.
The decision to have an emergency section during labour does not have to be made by a consultant, senior doctors are able to make this decision alone.
The consultant on call is made aware of the situation but is not responsible for the on the spot decision.
If a baby or a mothers life is thought to be in danger an emergency caesarean is performed immediately.
This can be done within 10 mins if necessary.
A longer wait may occur in cases where there is no immediate threat to mum or baby, an unsuccessful induction or a failure to dilate for example.

Vikkijayne2507 Tue 04-Feb-14 19:32:48

had horrendous heartburn last night ending with me being very sick and hardly sleeping. Baby wiggling about lots he's enjoying kicking my ribs not fun.
30 + 6 weeks

smilesallround247 Tue 04-Feb-14 21:49:32

Anyone having trouble sleeping? I can't for the life of me get comfy! laying on my right side is nice on my back but my hips ache after a while sad but if I'm on my right side im soo comfy....until my back aches on my right side and I have to haul myself over! sleeping propped up on my back just makes my bum ache sad
I've got two memory foam mattresses toppers on and body pillows. nothing helps!
any suggestions? or tips?

Misty9 Tue 04-Feb-14 21:56:22

I'm having the same problem smiles - lying on my right side gives me instant heartburn, but is the comfiest, lying on my left makes my pelvis hurt, and my favourite position of back sleeping is definitely out now as it makes baby very squirmy. Harrumph is all I can say.

That said, I'm shattered today so am hoping that'll help me drift off quickly tonight when I stop farting about on mn


prettyinpink90 Tue 04-Feb-14 22:34:10

Just dropping in to see how you're all getting on ladies?

We had our first NCT antenatal class tonight and although I was worried after reading a few reviews I needn't have been. Our tutor is lovely as is the other 7 couples in our group, although at 23 and 27 we are the youngest couple by far. Hoping that friendships will be made over the coming weeks and they don't just see me as the baby of the group. My partner was really interested and asked lots of questions which put me at ease as I know he wasn't particularly looking forward to going.

The weeks seem to be going ever so quick and my emotions are a mix of excitement, nervousness and feeling like I'll never be prepared in time. I have a few exciting weeks ahead of me... I have my baby shower in two weeks and finish work in three weeks!


LightTripper Wed 05-Feb-14 10:37:34

Hello all! My NCT starts on 24th Feb, so still got a bit of time to go. Don't really know what to expect!

I've also had some problems sleeping. I know left side is supposed to be good, but that's the side my sciatic nerve is dodgy, and I tend to wake up with horrible cramp in my left foot if I actually go to sleep on that side. Right side was better, but 2 nights ago woke up with cramps in the right foot too, so not sure that's going to be a goer.

For keeping the pain down when sleeping on my back, I've found putting a fat pillow/cushion under my knees seems to help (something I discovered when my back was bad pre-pregnancy, but seems to be helping now too) - might be worth a go?

LT 29+0

MrsMyMarbles Wed 05-Feb-14 13:04:37

Patsy you are absolutely correct, and I am very sorry if I have caused anyone any concern. If the need arises then an emergency caesarean can and will be performed in the shortest time possible. Our medical care is exemplary in that regard. I was simply saying that I went into hospital with my first child under the assumption that if the decision was made for an emergency caesarean then it would be done in the shortest time possible, but that is not the case for most situations, and if, as you point out, it is not immediately life threatening, then many women do have to wait. My husband and I were unprepared for the wait and it caused us both no end of distress. Had I known that we were in no immediate danger at the time, I would have not been so stressed and upset. However we were told we needed an ‘emergency’ caesarean – which I took to mean ‘emergency’!

The NICE guidelines (http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/live/13620/57162/57162.pdf) on caesarean section state on page 131 that category 1 caesarean section are advised to be performed within 30 minutes, while category 2 caesarean sections between 30 and 75 minutes.

I would have liked to have known that ‘emergency’ caesarean does not always mean ‘emergency’. Ii, and my DH, would have coped better knowing that.

MrsMyMarbles Wed 05-Feb-14 13:07:55

Smiles and Misty, I find using a cushie roll pillow under my bump while lying on my side supports babies weight so I ache less. Still doesn't solve the having to heave over to change sides, but at least I can, mostly, get off to sleep. I keep waking every 2 or 3 hours. Really want an uninterrupted night’s sleep!

smilesallround247 Wed 05-Feb-14 14:21:18

ugh I've had the worst day ever. last night of course I didn't sleep well so im tired more so than usual. I'm really suffering with my legs chafing. tmi sorry! ! its like every step is like razor blades on my inner thighs. I've been to the walk in centre twice got told it's a bacteria infection then got told it's a fungal infection! nothing is working to keep it at bay.
I've been at work today and it's all on my feet. I spent the last hour trying not to move and it's frustrating as I'm so used to being mobile and active. so I've just got home torn off my trousers and pants and just sat crying on the floor out of frustration. I want to put down the tears to being tired and not hormones! I've rang my gp for an appointment tomorrow so hopefully they'll help this time! sorry I really needed a rant!

smilesallround247 Wed 05-Feb-14 14:26:53

to make things worse, I work with my partner so when I told him that I'd booked a gp appointment early the next day (which I'm working with him). He just said I should have ran the time past him. He knows I'm in pain but Tbh he's not being understanding. Heaven forbid if he were to go through this.....

ChurrosConChocolate Wed 05-Feb-14 14:29:17

light no sciatica pain at the moment (fingers crossed). Back is feeling a bit better, been managing to stretch it a bit and the heat thing seems to be helping. Tempted to book myself for a massage though... Hope the decorating is going well.

marbles I used the muslins with a nippa, they work really well on little ones I think. I'll mostly do that this time too I think. Good news you are going to be able to have a IM! I'm still looking into a doula. More concerned with the other doula having me as her first birth as I have quite a few issues from first time and I can't be sure how they will manifest in labour! Although at the moment I'm feeling positive and undefeatable! I think it helps knowing my rights more this time, but I'm also super keen to avoid hospital. I'm happy with the birth centre but if they wouldn't of let me go there I was definitely going to go down the homebirth route so I respect what you are doing and I hope it goes well.

blessed is your DD any happier now you are around more on maternity leave?

I'm having trouble sleeping but not pregnancy related! Just DS deciding to get up super early, the people in the flat upstairs banging around, car alarms going off outside, the cats deciding to go crazy in the middle of the night, very itchy eczema on my hand - arrrgghh!


ChurrosConChocolate Wed 05-Feb-14 14:32:21

smiles sending brew and cake, that doesn't sound like a fun day at all. Hope the gp can help.

smilesallround247 Wed 05-Feb-14 15:34:24

Thanks churros. I've had a hot bath and calmed down since I feel better!
my maternity leave starts mid march I'm wondering if I should start it earlier if I'm this uncomfortable confused

Cannotbelieveit Wed 05-Feb-14 16:25:04

Checking in! Only 2 shifts left at work after today!

Had terrible dreams last night! Kept waking up and then going back to sleep and going back into the same dream :-(

I can't over how different the movement is with this baby as this time the placenta is posterior and it was anterior with DS1

28+4 grin

mamapants Wed 05-Feb-14 18:40:57

Wow sounds like lots of you are going off on mat leave soon. I haven't set a date yet not sure when to stop really. I worked till the very end with DS and maybe thinking of doing the same this time.
Last time I worked full time till 39+2 but am using holiday leave this time so will only be working 3 days a week.
Unless of course they don't renew my contract, should be finding out this week. If they don't I will be finishing end of march instead. So fingers crossed I have a job to take leave from! My boss just sprang this on me last week! So could be facing smp and no job to go back to.

LightTripper Wed 05-Feb-14 19:01:49

Sorry you're having a tough time smiles - that doesn't sound like fun at all. Hope your OH has seen the light. It's a stressful time for everybody.

mamapants I'm not planning to stop until 3 weeks before (using 2 weeks holiday - 1 carried over from last year - and then starting actual mat leave 1 week before my due date). I'm hoping that's long enough to give me a bit of time to get sorted - although at least one of my projects will still be live, so suspect I will be part time the 2 weeks I am on holiday rather than fully off (unless LO chooses to make an early appearance of course!) But I think that will probably be better for me than a "hard stop" anyway - otherwise if she is on time or late I think it's going to be too much thinking time to get scared about the birth!!

Fingers crossed on your contract renewal... don't forget even as a contractor if you are effectively working as an employee you may have employee's rights - so it's not necessarily the case that they can just terminate your contract just like that (good summary on this here: www.workingmums.co.uk/advice-and-support/q-and-a/111245/maternity-rights-and-contracts-ask-the-expert.thtml)? I know not everybody has the energy to fight it (happened to a friend of mine and she couldn't face taking it to court) - but it really annoys me when employers try to wiggle out of their responsibilities by doing dodgy contractual games!

Weird question ... but is anybody else thinking of doing perineal massage or that balloon thing? One of my friends SWEARS by the balloon, but it seems like a weird thing to spend �100 on (on the other hand, if it works it is definitely worth �100!!!)

LightTripper Thu 06-Feb-14 08:09:46