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February 2014 - We've got big bumps and we cannot lie...

(1000 Posts)
DawnOfTheDee Fri 29-Nov-13 19:44:41

You other mothers can't deny,
When a girl walks in with an ever expanding waist
And a round thing in your face
You....'d better give her some cake....

etc, etc,

New thread! Enjoy!

jazzcat28 Fri 29-Nov-13 20:10:29

Marking place..

EeyoreIsh Fri 29-Nov-13 20:34:05

Marking place smile

Thisisfreakingmeout Fri 29-Nov-13 20:36:56


Another one with my first baby nightmare. Weird lots of us had it at the same time! ��

LittlePandaBear Fri 29-Nov-13 20:44:27

Thanks Dawn - marking place!

rueyrichardson Fri 29-Nov-13 20:49:24

New thread and not a dildo in sight......yet......

winterflowers Fri 29-Nov-13 21:09:21

Woohoo cake!

Marking place

bugsyburge Fri 29-Nov-13 21:09:36

checking in

Unplastered Fri 29-Nov-13 21:09:51

Checking in! Thought this was going to be the One With The Dildos?! Though the bump is getting pretty mahoosive.

LovesToBake Fri 29-Nov-13 21:14:06

Checking in although a tad disappointed that we didn't get the dildo thread!

laura0007 Fri 29-Nov-13 21:19:55

I'd prefer a dildo to a massive bump! I can't get comfy tonight! I have either a head or a bum right under my ribs and it's very uncomfortable to sit down. Perhaps I should take it as a sign and go to bed!

Shropshiremummy2B Fri 29-Nov-13 21:25:10

I'm personally glad I won't have see the "d" word every time I post on here blush blush blush

notoneforselfies Fri 29-Nov-13 21:29:18

Evenin all

misskatamari Fri 29-Nov-13 21:36:12

Woo hoo new thread!

sunflowered Fri 29-Nov-13 22:13:11

Big bump checking in, with added heartburn neither of these are helped by the cake I've just been wolfing down in bed

Unplastered Fri 29-Nov-13 22:42:56

I really can't colain about my pregnancy body when my diet today has consisted of golden syrup on toast, DD's leftovers, buckets of tea, chinesetakeawy and chocolate orange. Oh, and an apple. Oops. Must try harder tomorrow.

SugarMiceInTheRain Fri 29-Nov-13 23:13:25

Woohoo, new thread!

I'm getting sick of the pregnancy malarkey. Saw MW yesterday and had ++ of glucose in my sample despite the GTT coming back negative. So she's worried and was on the phone to a specialist diabetes MW. Thinking I probably need to lay off the sugar, which has annoyed me as I have a tendency to comfort eat (particularly when pregnant) - how I'm not twice my size I have no idea! blush Today is DH's birthday so have eaten masses, mostly savoury for a change, but we're taking the kids to Cadbury World tomorrow so I will be mainlining chocolate! grin

SPD is really bothering me, I can barely walk by the end of the day so tomorrow traipsing round Birmingham after CW will be fun hmm Still, I'm looking forward to festive treats at the German Christmas market there. Can't wait to put my decorations up on Sunday - I love Christmas!!

barebranches Fri 29-Nov-13 23:26:52

I'm here!!! Marking places

Anyone know where i can get a decent pair of tights?? My current pair of preggo tights have caused me chub rub after slipping down. sad

CubanoHabana Fri 29-Nov-13 23:39:09

Marking place

SugarMiceInTheRain Fri 29-Nov-13 23:39:49

barebranches I got some fairly decent maternity tights from Boots recently. They stay up whereas all my other ones constantly fall down!

marzipanned Fri 29-Nov-13 23:54:15

Excellent thread! Just checking in before passing out.

Shropshiremummy2B Sat 30-Nov-13 02:54:52

bare my ASOS 120 denier mat tights are luscious. They have a rubber band at the top and don't slip down at all. All my other mat tights result in much Wacko Jacko style crotch retrieval and hoiking.

sunflowered Sat 30-Nov-13 03:37:56

Thank you, smoke alarm. 3.15am is the perfect time for you to start beeping to tell me your battery needs replacing. I love climbing on chairs in the middle of the night to make you stop making that noise. Where do you think I'm going to find a new battery at this time of night? And am wide awake. Again... angry

Josie314 Sat 30-Nov-13 03:39:16

I tuck my tights into the bottom of my bra under the underwire and back. Works really well to keep them up.

Baby is doing acrobatics today. My insides feel abused.

sunflowered Sat 30-Nov-13 04:13:29

I've got very short legs and have found just getting xl non-maternity tights works ok too and a bit less ££ if it turns out they don't work for you.

Dh now breathing loud, alcohol scented breaths in my direction. I think I might give up on sleep tonight.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 30-Nov-13 07:19:40

Checking in. Prudishly pleased about thread title gringrin

Somanychanges Sat 30-Nov-13 07:32:53

Marking my place too. Morning all, it's Saturday my DH and DC are still fast asleep and its still dark outside so why am I wide awake?

Might be the excitement of my baby shower later grin

The movie we watched last night had DH and I in stitches. It was called 'This is 40', about a couple who are both turning 40 in the same week, they have 2 daughters aged 13 and maybe 8ish. It was so funny and I don't think I have sat down and watched a movie in months. Was also nice to have some time with DH.

Does anyone else feel like they might squish the baby when DTD now? I was a bit worried yesterday as had to carry my DS to school as he hurt himself. He is 6 but as tall and heavy as an 8yr old. The only way I could manage was sitting him at the top of my bump. Then I spent the whole day worrying I may have hurt the baby. Then on top of that DH leaned on me a bit too much when we were cuddling pre DTD and all I could think of was that baby was getting squashed.

It didn't help that he hardly moved yesterday so I kept worrying I had damaged him. Anyway he is moving around now so I am sure he is fine.

barebranches Sat 30-Nov-13 07:55:43

haha somany constantly worried im going to squish the baby... even putting my just shoes on!!

re Dtd anyone found positions that are the best for non baby squishing!? sad wink

jazzcat28 Sat 30-Nov-13 07:56:56

blush had a lovely pg vivid dream last night involving hot and steamy action with some bloke who looked like a cross between George Clooney and Jimmy Nesbit where we stopped mid flow so I could eat some apple pie and custard. Makes a change from the panic inducing nightmares!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 30-Nov-13 08:07:32

DTD is a distant memory here sad not attempted for 3 months as I found it so uncomfortable and had painful BHs afterwards. envy

Champagnebubble Sat 30-Nov-13 08:30:03

Checking in....thanks Dawn.

I recommend H&M tights.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 30-Nov-13 08:36:23

Seen so many people recommending H&M tights. I must have a dodgy pair confused

I am a very average size 10 5ft4 so I bought them in medium. Even at full stretch it's impossible to get them over my bottom (let alone bump). They are so short in the leg!!

Thingymajigs Sat 30-Nov-13 08:41:01

Very jealous of your dreams. Mine largely involve zombies last night.
We don't fully dtd anymore. Not after a scary bleeding incident but dtd is not the only way to stay intimate so I don't feel too deprived.
I've just been reading the December thread. There are posters in labour, discussing stretch marks, latching and induction. We will all be doing that in a few weeks! When I guess dtd will only be discussed as a method to bring on labour or cursing that we ever did it in the first place to be in this position.

DawnOfTheDee Sat 30-Nov-13 08:43:23

Really sorry blush I must've missed the bit on the last thread about this one having dildos. I promise the next one will have lashings of dildos...i'll even chuck in some love eggs too....

notoneforselfies Sat 30-Nov-13 09:00:42

Bare I recommend lying on left side with right knee to chest (sort of recovery position) and a pillow under the left/bottom hip. Sort of semi-doggy. I'm off bury my bright red face in a pillow for a while now. blush

Champagnebubble Sat 30-Nov-13 09:10:57

Lastnight maybe that's why I like H&M....I'm shorter than you hmm so perhaps they suit us short a*rses better! grin I still find they have quite a lot of stretch though.....well the pair I have do!

Unplastered Sat 30-Nov-13 09:15:29

I've found Boots maternity rights really good. They don't fall down, are long enough without reaching my chin and a nicer feel than some. Plus half price voucher in the boots parenting club pack (with the one for the changing bag).

camwombat Sat 30-Nov-13 09:18:19

urgh, after a relatively fab nights sleep we were woken by the postman at 7.20 this morning. suffice to say neither of us got up to answer the door. his card says he rang twice and knocked. fab, I still wasn't getting up, no parcel is that urgent! annoyingly because it's a Saturday it doesnt get dropped at our post office for collection.

making mental note to avoid h&m tights then, unless other tall folk recommend them.

notoneforselfies Sat 30-Nov-13 09:18:25

I like woolly tights and adore seraphine's bamboo tights and leggings.

EeyoreIsh Sat 30-Nov-13 09:48:19

I'm a tall bod and the only tights I've found so far that vaguely stay up are from Debenhams.

I'm staying at my parents, and I slept so well last night, I think it's the first time in months when I've slept through until 6. It might have been all the sherry my mum put in the pudding grin wine My sister also left lots of her maternity tops for me. They're small, but most of them just fit, so I'm really pleased to have them. I was really struggling with my only two decent maternity tops.

We've got a family lunch out today. I am totally having a steak. I'm am really craving one (and pork pies still!). mmmmmm steak smile

EeyoreIsh Sat 30-Nov-13 10:21:39

Oh dear. Sneezing, having a full bladder and being 30+6 is not a good combination blush I've had my first pelvic floor failure, and to make it worse, it was in front of DH blush blush blush

I'm now squeezing like a crazy woman.

I can't believe I thought I wouldn't need that sample of tena lady blush

Littleen Sat 30-Nov-13 10:48:52

I use non-maternity tights (el-cheapo from tesco) too like sunflowered smile works fine for me, just wear a big size and pull them up!

DTD - since getting bump, we normally use a 'wonky' spooning position, which is quite nice and cuddly! Or girl on top works too smile

Squashing baby - I am scared of that too, I bend over a lot to grab stuff etc and it's very uncomfortable! But don't know how else to do things!

jazzcat omg I want your dream! Hahaha

lastnight it might have changed now - I couldn't DTD at all in the first 4 months because of really painful cramps, but after that it's fine for some reason! Perhaps have a try on your own and see if it's gone away?

Eeyore and squeeze!! I'm sure you won't be the only one for the next few months, so everyone just remember to squeeze! I only remember when someone says it on here :P

CubanoHabana Sat 30-Nov-13 11:07:57

I'm so annoyed!

Was supposed to have whooping cough jab yesterday at mw, to be told I needed to get nurse to do it. Got appointment for 9.30 today (typically a day when i seemed to be able to manage a lie in), turned up and waited for 45 mins to be told they have lost the injection... Have to go back next week...

On top of that, hubby well annoyed that I have bought clothes bundle from eBay, not happy they are second hand! Told him that they go through them so fast they will have hardly been worn but he says that all his family are giving us loads so there was no point... I Said most would be in bigger size but he says no, they have all bought only newborn and I knew about it...


sunflowered Sat 30-Nov-13 11:12:17

They all seem so matter of fact on the December thread - "so, I started having contractions this morning, got checked out at triage, and now I have a baby girl." "Oh yeah - me too, she's gorgeous." I apologise in advance for the complete outpouring of emotion and shock that's likely to come when I tell people the entire world that our bump has turned into a baby.

Re dtd I'm finding that me on top works well especially as it reduces the chance of feeling like I need to go to sleep half way through, which doesn't do much for dh's confidence... Or spooning as littleen said, but have to guide dh about where to put his hands - there are two very obvious places above the bump, and they are still totally off limits. Well, he tries, but it makes me leap into the next room.

We're out for a family lunch today and now you've mentioned it I'm going to be really disappointed if i can't have a pork pie!

After a couple of months of pain while trying to roll over to get out of bed facing fowards, have discovered a much simpler solution: climb out backwards... Doh. Now just need a way to get up off the floor every time I drop things about five times every bloody hour

marzipanned Sat 30-Nov-13 11:34:22

Ha jazz that dream sounds amazing. I particularly love the pause for pie and custard, inspired!

DTD - Same as Littleen - spooning, girl on top (well - not any more - I don't have the energy) or like missionary but with him kneeling up instead of lying on top of you. I make it sound like DH is getting a lot more action than he really is...

Tights for tallies - another here wearing non-maternity supermarket tights in a larger size (Sains in my case) with no issues. They are the woolly ones though, not sure whether the sheen-y ones would be as good.

Squashing baby - I don't worry about that, but yesterday a little boy poked me HARD in the bump. I did have a brief panic about him having poked the fontanel [shame] then remembered that lots of pregnant women are in car crashes etc and the babies are just fine.

Cubano how can they lose an injection? confused The mind boggles.

Off to read December thread now!

winterflowers Sat 30-Nov-13 12:09:03

Just read the December thread too, can't believe that is going to be us in terrifyingly no time at all!

Babies are so well padded and protected inside I think it would take a lot to really squish them. Plus it is so bloody uncomfortable bending over or doing any vague squashing am not sure we could even if we tried.

Hope you're all having lovely Saturday so far (cubano I don't know how they can misplace a vaccine!)

jazzcat28 Sat 30-Nov-13 12:09:16

Tights - I love Boots and M&S maternity but think you can only order them online.

Nursery drawers and wardrobe arrived today! Just waiting on Dad to refurb the cot and help us put up Pooh wallpaper and curtains in Jan then I will treat you all to a before and after pic.

Off to hang baby clothes in the wardrobe...

LittlePandaBear Sat 30-Nov-13 12:54:18

I almost bought the Boots tights today after seeing them in the shop - but they just had medium/large and I was worried they might fall down as I'm a shortie so will try to find the smaller size.

I just put in on facebook but I randomly saw Miss Kat in the car park at our local retail park and she was waiting to park in our space out of all of the spaces in the busy car park. I met her last week when she collected some of DD's baby clothes, and now she's stalking me! wink Stockport is still quite a big place and I never bump into anyone I know when I'm out unless I've arranged to meet them!

I've ordered some new glasses as a present from DH to me for Xmas. I have needed some new ones for a while now and they cost so much so never got round to it. Have picked some nice D&G ones but every pair I tried on DD was laughing hysterically like I was playing dress up! DH just said 'they all look the same' so I took advice from the optician. My family are useless!

I also had a shop assistant ask when I was due. I said in Feb. She said 'Blimey! Are you having twins?!'. Grrrr. Then she said I must be having a boy to be that big, well yes I am. This woman was probably bigger than me anyway and was too old to be pregnant. I don't have a small bump but it's the right size for the number of weeks I am so don't understand why people comment like that! Preggo rage.

I'm off for a date night with hubby tonight - a very rare occasion! DD is staying with my in laws and we're going for a meal out.

Have a lovely weekend everyone xx

CubanoHabana Sat 30-Nov-13 14:05:29

I did wonder about how to lose a batch of vaccines in a doctors!? It was the nurse practice manager who couldn't find it as well!

Bump wise, mw told me I had a very neat bump and must have very strong stomach muscle! Maybe about 10 years ago when I was a dancer and used to compete at figure skating but not now!

jazzcat28 Sat 30-Nov-13 15:24:47

Secret Santa present bought wrapped and packed for posting! Now trying to work out where to post from to cause maximum confusion to recipient...

Littleen Sat 30-Nov-13 15:46:04

I've not had a single comment from strangers about my bump! Some friends have excitedly said I 'finally have a bump' although one was excited about my bump when it still looked like podge :P depressing much!

sunflowered Sat 30-Nov-13 16:11:05

I've got my secret santa sorted too - had a moment of inspiration at the shops yesterday. Now just need to break my bad habit of leaving it until after the last posting date to send it on its way.blush

One thing I failed on yesterday was getting hold of my mum to be bounty pack. I've had the voucher since july and haven't found anyone with any stock. I know it's just a marketing thing, but I want that free sachet of stretch mark cream and tenalady now that it's been dangled in front of me and will feel hard done by if I don't get it! Have any of you had any luck?

Stuffed after my pub lunch and just waiting for dh to stop playing with the fire before I sit down with a coffee and a book and relax for a couple of hours. The only thing that would make for a more chilled out evening would be a bit of wine and cake there would be cake in the house if I hadn't eaten it all yesterday Hope you're all having good weekends smile

barebranches Sat 30-Nov-13 16:35:58

I got my secret santa sorted too! Also spent too much money in mothercare on tiny cute stuff! grin
thanks for the Dtd tips!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 30-Nov-13 16:40:43

Littleen re DTD it was just so uncomfortable all the way through - I hated it sad And I was the same with the last pregnancy so just going to abstain now. Hopefully will only be pregnant for another 7-8 weeks and then (if I manage to not tear this time) we can hopefully get back on track in the spring smile

misskatamari Sat 30-Nov-13 16:46:26

Gosh cubano - how the heck do they lose the vaccine? I think wc needs to be kept refrigerated so shouldn't be easy to lose (not sure if it's the case for all vaccines but I remember mw saying that one might be cold).

Thanks for all the DTD tips - I should probably actually try to be bothered this weekend. Hardly seen DH recently as he's working on deadline so it's just been sleeping for us for ages. Including today when we've just had a nice afternoon nap after playing the new Mario game grin

Does anyone else find they drool bloody loads now when they sleep? It's so gross and only since being Preggo! Very weird! Urgh I picked up a light coloured vest id worn to sleep in yesterday too and found some weird round stain marks at around boob level which I can only assume are from some leakage! God I'm painting an attractive picture aren't i!

Somany im constantly bending etc and squishing the baby but she seems okay so far - I think they have plenty of cushioning so should all be fine smile

I'm getting more "when are you due?"s now as well - although I think it's more the waddle than bump that alerts people. They do seen a bit shock when I say feb (but it is 1st of feb!) - I think lots of people just don't know how massive people actually get when they are 40 weeks Preggo! Imagine the comments we will all be getting by chrimbo! confused

Hope you're all having lovely Saturdays!

jazzcat28 Sat 30-Nov-13 16:55:41

I am a bit worried about weight gain in the coming weeks... my pregnancy book says we put on 10-12lbs in the 3rd trimester (and that must be for average ladies - I reckon I could do at least another half stone on top!)

misskat leakage sounds annoying - thankfully one symptom I haven't had yet.

EeyoreIsh Sat 30-Nov-13 18:34:29

jazz I'm sure your weight gain is fine, as long as you're eating reasonably sensibly it'll be fine. Your body is storing what it needs for baby and for breastfeeding.

I've just eaten masses. went for a meal out and had half a chicken, then I polished off everyone else's chipsblush they were so good.

I bought the secret santa gift today, just need to wrap it and send it from somewhere confusing smile

DH has carried on the lunchtime drinking with my dad, brother and bil. He'll be wasted, despite being a big chap he really can't handle his drink as much as he thinks. As long as he's not too hungover for ikea tmw I don't mind!

camwombat Sat 30-Nov-13 19:37:57

Eeyore hope you buy non-alcoholic mulled wine in Ikea. I've added it to my list to buy tomorrow, now we have to go as DS and a standing lamp had a disagreement today sad

You are all very organised with your presents, even planning on posting them from elsewhere!

I've just bought via eBay a little life travel cot, as we had a graco loan one last time. My poor bro has volunteered to pick it up on his way home from work next week for me. grin

notoneforselfies Sat 30-Nov-13 19:49:01

Just back from hospital - hadn't felt The Boy properly for 24 hours (despite several cans of full fat coke, lie-downs etc) which is very out of character as he's normally such a strong little hyperactive one, but thankfully all seems to be fine. Had me on a trace for an hour and his heart rate is normal. Think he might have just changed positions perhaps. Midwife was lovely, and back there for a tour of the mlu tomorrow! I walked about half a mile today and really suffering for it in my lower back and lower bump. Anyone got a support belt from the high street they can recommend?

EeyoreIsh Sat 30-Nov-13 19:59:52

notone glad to hear everything is ok and they took it seriously. I hope baby gives you some obvious wiggles soon.

Sassy20 Sat 30-Nov-13 21:04:19

Marking place x

Sassy20 Sat 30-Nov-13 21:14:27

Had a chance to catch up now.

MissKat - another drooler here! It's delightful isn't it - I keep waking up and having to turn my pillow over. confused

Dtd - another spoon or shock doggy shock. Funding that more up for it this time round than was when preg with dd.

Tight - I too got a bad pair of h&m tights and wouldn't recommend at all as the wouldn't stay over bump (when it wasn't as big as it is now) and were horrible. I got some mothercare ones and I'd recommend those. X

laura0007 Sat 30-Nov-13 23:10:27

No tone glad there is nothing to worry about! They do like to panic us these babies!
DTD... What's that? I can't remember wink

DTD: anything except straight up (or down!) missionary is doable isn't it? This pg and last pg though I cannot tolerate foreplay as its all a bit extra sensitive down there and the boobs are off limits as they are too sensitive too. GRR. That reminds me to set some time aside when dh gets back tomorrow....

tights: I am just over 5'4" and my h&M tights are rubbish. Mothercare have been ok.

Baby was making it very hard for me to balance on top of the ladder today (stripping dining room walls and ceiling) as I kept getting booted :D

winterflowers Sat 30-Nov-13 23:57:13

Glad he's all ok notone it's so worrying when they go awol. Am glad they checked you out properly as well.

I've got my secret santa also, well it's veen purchased and am waiting for it to be delivered. Then working out the posting game also ( although I think there's enough of us in and around london to remain vaguely anonymous).

sunflowered I haven't even been given the bounty vouchers by my mw let alone found somewhere to exchange them grrr.

Way past my bedtime now, night all x

sunflowered Sun 01-Dec-13 00:07:00

Glad everything seems ok notone smile

Winter - think you can also register for bounty vouchers online. You don't have to miss out on the free stuff random small packets of vaguely baby related marketing ploys

Petty - be careful up that ladder!

Despite spending most of today horizontal with a good book, I feel like I've just been for a long ride on a bike with a very uncomfortable saddle. Is this normal?! Have been doing lots of pelvic floor squeezes to try and work it off.

EeyoreIsh Sun 01-Dec-13 08:55:43

Morning preggos smile

I'm 31 weeks today which means only 9 (ish) weeks to go! and only 3 weeks of work left.

My pregnancy app basically said at this stage my body is screwed so baby can grow, and grow, and grow!

Off to ikea and kiddicare soon, with a hungover DH... It'll be a miracle if we don't have an argument at some point!

misskatamari Sun 01-Dec-13 09:37:40

Notone - I'm glad baby is okay. They're a worry aren't they!

Petty - gosh you're brave decorating. Id be scared of falling off as I'm so clumsy now!

I think nesting instinct might be starting. I just want to get home and clean the house and chuck stuff out!!! I'm resisting the cooked breakfast today too woo hoo - but am now determined to atleast try and get something vaguely like my money's worth out of the continental. That will be 3 bowls of cereal and 10 slices of toast then grin

misskatamari Sun 01-Dec-13 09:38:14

Good luck at ikea Eeyore - get hubby some meatballs and all will be well!

LovesToBake Sun 01-Dec-13 09:52:49

Eeyore best of luck for Ikea - we rarely manage a harmonious trip and I don't think either of us has ever been hungover, you're a braver woman than I! In fact we're planning to do an online order for the things we need for DS' new bedroom and have it delivered. Figured we'd need a van anyway so by the time we factor in petrol, van delivery and faff factor, the delivery cost will actually be cheaper thank goodness!

Notone - very glad to hear all is ok and the hospital were nice. Hope the tour goes well today.

I've got my Christmas cake in the oven (after 4 weeks of the fruits soaking in brandy and sugar syrup) so feeling very productive. Need to send DH up into the loft later to fish out the Christmas box, hoping I might have leftover cards and maybe some wrapping paper from last year but can't remember and think it's probably wishful thinking.

MissKat - not surprised you're itching to get home and get nesting how much longer in the hotel? Yesterday afternoon after a busy and tiring day out, I was chilling out on my bed while DS played in my room. This involved him emptying my entire underwear, socks and 'miscellaneous' drawers by my bed, total carnage but I didn't care as I had my feet up. The plus side was I'd been meaning to sort out and declutter those drawers for a while, so I got to do that once he was in bed. The strange things that make me happy these days!

EeyoreIsh Sun 01-Dec-13 10:20:57

DH seems to be coping ok so far... but we've not made it to ikea yet! Our small car is already full of nappies and other baby things that my sister got me at a massively reduced price, so there's not much space for new things. I shall focus on the non alcoholic mulled wine grin and put DH in the restaurant with meatballs and the free coffee refills whilst I shop!

breakfast of fruit salad and pork pie is entirely normal and balanced, right? missk, make the most of the breakfasts while you can!

misskatamari Sun 01-Dec-13 10:31:21

lol that sounds like a fun game lovesto! smile Hopefully well be home on Tuesday and the cleaning and tidying can commence! Awww the poor cats are only allowed in the kitchen due to all the painting and DH just sent me a piccie of one of them sitting on a blanket under a chair which I made as a crappy makeshift bed. hmm I miss my babies!!!!! They're so sad when we go home and visit them. Need to buy them lots of treats when we return!

Eeyore - your breakfast sounds entirely balanced and reasonable. You'll have to let us know if the nonalcoholic mulled wine is good! Did someone say m+S has tasty nonalcoholic champagne too? After my tiny taste of the real thing yesterday I'm gonna need a bottle of something fizzy for chrimbo day!

Littleen Sun 01-Dec-13 10:52:12

notone glad to hear baby is fine despite moving elsewhere!

eeyeore good luck and have fun in ikea ;D Had to just leave our attempt in furniture shops yesterday, as my other half was hungry = grumpy, so agree on misskat's comment to get him meatballs!

misskat would you like to borrow my 3 cats? They are absolutely doing my head in at the moment, so needy, and I just want some peace and quiet!

If the non-alcoholic mullet wine in ikea is "jule gløgg" then it's gooorgeous smile it's what we drink here, and add wine if we fancy!

CubanoHabana Sun 01-Dec-13 10:55:46

We are also off to ikea today and m&p and mothercare... Hoping to pick up secret Santa today but have come to an absolute blank on what to get!

My breakfast consisted of about 10 flapjack bites from morrisons... Mmm!

Glad everything went well at hospital notone

Champagnebubble Sun 01-Dec-13 11:03:53

Notone - glad all seems ok.

Eeyore - Good luck! As some others have said, something about Ikea makes men run for the hills I think! I also hate the traffic jams....ugh, just thinking about it makes me admire you immensly! I think your plan of installing DH in the cafe is a very good plan!

Misskat - I heard that the M&S non alco champagne is good so I'm trying to get my hands on it, but so far I've only managed to find a case of it....and it appears to be out of stock :-(


I'm actually busy doing researching to find the best Chrimbo drink. I sound like a right alcy (I really am not!) but I know I am going to find Christmas difficult as I love having a few glasses of champagne on Christmas day and on NY Eve.....

I might send an email to M&S to ask if they will be getting it into their shops! If not, there is the alcohol free company that does some....

I also found www.cari-fit.com/2009/05/new-product-find-alcohol-free-champagne/ and I am trying to see if we can get it in the UK....

...and Sainsbury's do a sparkling wine.... www.sainsburys.co.uk/groceries/index.jsp?bmUID=1385895739454

marzipanned Sun 01-Dec-13 12:30:53

Aw misskat I know exactly how that cat guilt feels, but if it makes you feel any better, ours was back to his usual imperial self within a couple of days of us being home.

Notone sorry you had a scare and glad that they took it seriously and all seems okay. Hope your insides are getting a battering today smile

Eeyore good luck...it will all be worth it when you get your hands on the mulled wine.

sunflowered I've had some internal vaginal pains a bit like bike riding, is that what you mean? They've always passed pretty quickly.

I tried the Coppella Winter Warmer apple juice heated up the other day and it was really nice, not a great substitute for mulled wine but an acceptable one.

Feeling a bit bummed today, after exciting first of December start. The house still isn't finished, and probably won't be for another fortnight. We were meant to be visit the lovely birth centre today but they have a woman in labour so we can't go (completely understandable - but disappointing nonetheless, as weekends are full for rest of the month). Lunch was projectile vomited up. Going to a Thanksgiving dinner later and I burnt the pie crusts so my pies look crap. DH and I in a bit of a mood with each other because I've taken all this out on him.

Okay, writing out those 'problems' has made me realise how pathetic I am being. I shall blame hormones and feel lucky enough that my cat is here to snuggle up with! tchbiscuit

Shropshiremummy2B Sun 01-Dec-13 13:01:52


Is it wrong that I have an obsession with my midwife? I couldn't sleep last night because I was so frikkin excited she was coming for another home visit!! She stayed for ages to chat and I didn't want her to leave! And I'm bummed that I now have to wait another 3 weeks until I'm 34 weeks to see her again, although she did say she would personally give me a tour of the mlu at the appt after that which I thought was sweet. I want her to be my friend!

So apart from my unrequited love all was good and growth bang on. Yay.

Littleen Sun 01-Dec-13 13:51:25

shrops do you have a secret crush on your midwife? :D

marzi don't worry about it! Last christmas eve I was cooking both Norwegian and English christmas dinner/lunch and got so stressed out from stuff going wrong that I just sat on a chair and cried for a while! No hormones or anything :P

rueyrichardson Sun 01-Dec-13 14:31:16

In my experience having a midwife who you can really properly talk to is a rarity so I'm a bit jel, Shrops. I haven't seen the same one twice this time apart from one quite miserable one (the one at the docs, Somany will know her!). When I had DS though the midwife who assisted in my labour I had a immediate connection with, she was brilliant and an otherwise difficult time was made warm and positive, just by me liking her. So good for you! Hope you get your new mate when you're in labour.

CubanoHabana Sun 01-Dec-13 15:15:43

Grr! Found a baby monitor we wanted, half price and mothercare had sold out, so they said they would order it in, to find that it is completely out of stock...

Then, tried to get the Moses basket mattress which was originally from mothercare and they no longer do the size, neither do m&p...

So a bit of an unsuccessful shopping trip!

Although we did get the shelves from ikea we wanted (but in the slightly wrong colour, birch instead of oak) but no mulled wine :-(

Somanychanges Sun 01-Dec-13 16:52:07

notone glad all was ok with baby.

I have just had a look at baby monitors and cannot believe how expensive they are shock

We had the BT one for both DD and DS. But I managed to loose the dock. It was pretty similar to the current one I think but not digital. I don't remember it being so expensive though. I think I may have to borrow one off someone as I really don't think I will be spending £50 on one. Some of them are over £100 I think that's a bit extreme.

EeyoreIsh Sun 01-Dec-13 16:54:28

cubano we bought a birch poang rather than oak, but then I did leave hungover DH to get that. lesson learned!

I'm so pleased, we managed to get our uppababy vista at kiddicare with 10% off as it was ex display. We couldn't see anything wrong with it all. We had filled the car up at ikea as we hadn't planned to buy a pushchair there and then, so we had to put it in the car all seperated out. It was like a giant jigsaw!

suddenly I feel much more ready for baby to arrive. Thanks to my amazing sis I have pretty much everything I need, and we've got a carseat coming tmw. I still don't have a few basics like blankets, sheets etc, but hey, I can get them another time!

I do have an empty bank balance though sad

camwombat Sun 01-Dec-13 18:36:21

It was clearly an Ikea day, I left DH & DS in car and dashed into the Gateshead one to buy a new lamp, sheet and some mulled wine. I was out of car and back into it within 25 mins.

The poangs are fab, we have the adult and kiddie ones. I used the adult one as a feeding chair and now its a reading chair in his room. The kiddie one is his tv chair.

EeyoreIsh Sun 01-Dec-13 18:59:09

We love poang too, it's our third one grin

CubanoHabana Sun 01-Dec-13 19:05:47

cam I went to Gateshead one too! but because hubby came with me, he wouldn't stop for the mulled wine though as there were too many people.

We also got the poang last time we went for a nursing chair.

Champagnebubble Sun 01-Dec-13 19:29:44

I bought a bottle of this in my last shop. I haven't tried it yet but am thinking it might be a nice mulled wine substitute. I will let you know what it is like.


misskatamari Sun 01-Dec-13 21:03:20

Ooooh you ladies are making me want an ikea trip!

Thanks for all the drink suggestions too champagne! Will definitely try and get hold of some of them grin

notoneforselfies Mon 02-Dec-13 00:43:48

Thanks for all the well wishes folks smile Hope you all had lovely weekends.

He was very quiet again today but I've felt some stronger movements again this evening which has made me happy.

Had such a busy few days running around that I feel like I've pulled or strained the muscles just above my pelvic bone at the bottom of my bump. Painless when immobile, but when I try and move - Ouch! So have bought a bump support belt and will attempt to stay still for a few days now to ward off any further deterioration...

Our tour of the hospital was great though: the mlu is amazing! It only opened in September so is all spanking new. There are 2 big rooms with pools and 2 little rooms. The big rooms have little fake candles all round the pool, fairy lights, colour changing mood lighting, bean bags, a sofa and birthing ball, double bed: it's like a bloody spa! Can't believe you can get that on the NHS... Just praying now that all goes smoothly, I don't have GD (GTT on weds) etc and I get to go there! Even on central delivery suite though everything was so quiet and calm. No rushing about, no screaming or mooing women. Was all quite reassuring!

Finished up today with a lovely meal at a friends house - this is the latest I've stayed up all pg as I'm normally passed out by 9.30pm. Hoping this means I sleep through tonight, with the exception of a few loo trips naturally. We'll see...

N'night y'all.

EeyoreIsh Mon 02-Dec-13 02:23:39

wide awake with bloody rib pains sad made the mistake of taking paracetomal which hasn't touched it, so now I can't take co-codomal until that's worn off.

barebranches Mon 02-Dec-13 04:34:22

sick of being awake all night and exhausted all day. sad
No position is comfortable.

Thingymajigs Mon 02-Dec-13 06:12:39

No sleep here either. I've always had sleel issues but pregnancy makes it much worse. Baby was booting me all night and restless legs didn't help either.
Pre-pregnancy I normally sleep on my front so I was just fantasising about being able to roll on to my tummy and spread out.
Did you manage to get any sleep in the end eeyore and bare?

barebranches Mon 02-Dec-13 06:38:55

i moved to the sofa because i was keeping Dh awake and nodded of about 5 ...i think... alarm just went off. angry
Sofa was more comfy because i had something to lean against.
Gonna be in a nice mood today!

Thingymajigs Mon 02-Dec-13 06:47:19

I remember spending the last week or two of previous pregnancies sleeping on the sofa in various weird positions in an attempt to get some sleep. It definitely helps to be a bit more upright.
I'm considering buying one of those huge pregnancy pillows. Anyone have one they can recommend?

Champagnebubble Mon 02-Dec-13 07:10:48

After nights of no sleep I managed to sleep through hmm no logic, rhyme or reason to it but still feel crappy. sad huge sympathies to you both suffering.

I was going to get a pg pillow but found I didn't like any of the designs. So, I have 3 cheap thin pillows in bed with me, one for the left side tucked under me at hip level, one for the right and the other between my legs. It has really helped my aches and pains and I can adjust them if I need more support elsewhere like under the bump. It's working for me at the moment smile

Champagnebubble Mon 02-Dec-13 07:11:37

Sorry....to you all suffering, not both blush.

LittlePandaBear Mon 02-Dec-13 07:44:04

Wow lots of pillows for everyone - I have 3 under my head so I can be a bit upright yet still on my back, and one under my bump. A friend suggested one under her legs too but I thought 5 was over kill. Obviously I need at least 6 to be an average preggo smile Last time I did have a boomerang shaped pillow which was amazing - under my bump in bed and then used as a nursing pillow to bring baby up to my boobs. I really need to get another one.

I woke up at 6am as DH was getting up and is the biggest faffer when getting ready. I mean, how loud can it be possible to put on a pair of socks? And then he put socks on again because he'd forgotten he already had a pair on. I feel like I already have 2 children!

To be honest I'm usually up at 5.30am on a Monday just to get to work for 8am but today I'm using up a random days holiday to go Xmas shopping, whilst leaving DD with the childminder smile Can't wait. I didn't want to venture into Manchester on a weekend due to the crowds but hopefully today will be reasonable - then whatever I haven't bought will have to be done online as I'll be too preggo. I have to remind myself to buy small gifts so it's not too heavy for me to carry.

DD slept in her new bigger bedroom last night, she looked so small in her full size single bed! I've managed to buy a pretty deep mattress and was worried she'd fall out of bed but no, she slept perfectly all night. So lovely to have her room finally finished and she loves it. Now I have to think about 'the boy' as we call him and sorting out his nursery!

Here's to a good week everyone xx fsmile

EeyoreIsh Mon 02-Dec-13 07:50:22

I got up and walked around, then settled back to bed but sitting upright to watch several episodes of masterchef! Finally dozed off again before 5, so I had an extra 90 minutes.

I've found with my ribs that no position is comfortable for very long, so I just need to regularly change.

Not sure how I'll function at work today, fortunately I'd already planned to work from home.

notoneforselfies Mon 02-Dec-13 07:51:55

Thingy - I adore my theraline pillow and won't be parted from it! Tried a dream genii too but didn't get along with it as it was too small and thin for me to be effective unfortunately.

Littleen Mon 02-Dec-13 08:00:37

I have this one, which is really nice and adjustable! Can put it however I want, move the filling to where I want and use it as a BF'ing pillow once baby comes smile Not happy with this turquoise colour though, so would recommend getting one of the others - plenty of choice there.


littlepanda grin lol at him putting on two pairs of socks! well done!

My other half has woken me up 4 (!) nights in a row for dtd, which I am more than happy about - our libidos are very out of sync so I take what I can get ;P But it does disturb my sleep, and then babyface wakes up at 7 every morning and wont let me go back to sleep! 7 is pretty early for me when not working - I don't fall aleep until 2 am. For the last week though, I've slept nearly painlessly (knock on wood)- so I feel quite rested :D Wish you all a random painfree week soon!

notoneforselfies Mon 02-Dec-13 08:33:12

Yep that's the one I've got Litleen. I'm evangelical about it grin

LovesToBake Mon 02-Dec-13 09:32:21

notone that's exactly what I'm like about my breastfeeding pillow. I sound as if I've got shares in the company or something but it was a life changer for me - if anyone is looking at getting one, check out 'My Brest Friend'. I only wish I had it from Day 1 with DS - I succumbed about 4 weeks in once we'd got to the bottom of our bf discomfort (a severe tongue tie that was never checked at birth, which we later had snipped) and it made the world of difference for me. Meant I could bring the baby up to the right height for my boobs without hunching over and getting really tense through my neck/shoulder/back (especially as he got heavier) and in time, it meant I could be totally hands-free which was great for longer feeds so I could read/play on MN/drink a cup of tea or whatever.

On the sleeping front, I think I'm quite lucky - I generally sleep through aside from two loo trips in the night. I sleep with 2 pillows under my head and a v-shaped pillow sort of under my bump and between my knees (sleep on my left hand side).

notoneforselfies Mon 02-Dec-13 10:18:10

Ooh glad you said that Lovesto - I just bought one of them from eBay for a fiver!

marzipanned Mon 02-Dec-13 10:24:20

Thanks Littleen smile Feel much better after a fantastic Thanksgiving dinner with lots of lovely people, none of whom minded about burnt pie crust!

Ooh I wish I had asked you lot before buying a pillow. Got a dream genii which I agree isn't really big enough to be effective. Hopefully it'll come into its own for bf...if not, the cat loves it smile

I'm not suffering from aches and pains at night but just weird inexplicable bouts of insomnia lasting about two hours. Not so bad.

notone you lucky thing, MLU sounds absolutely amazing.

LovesToBake Mon 02-Dec-13 10:32:01

notone that is a bargain! You won't be disappointed. It also has the added benefit that you can (if required) get up and walk around while bf and looking a bit like an ice cream seller at the theatre. I once answered the door to the postman mid-bf with DS on the cushion strapped around my waist.

SugarMiceInTheRain Mon 02-Dec-13 11:37:10

Haha, another BF pillow fan here. Use it between legs and to support bump when I'm trying to sleep and it is a lifesaver when BFing, particularly in bed in the wee hours!

notone for a lower bump/ back support, I managed to buy a one-size fits all waist support thing in Poundworld, which, whilst slightly annoying and restrictive, works more effectively (and restricts movement less) than the hideously uncomfortable support belt thing the physio gave me for my SPD when I was expecting DS1. Worth a try, and at £1, you're not throwing good money after bad if it doesn't work for you.

Just back from my WC jab. I'm sick of being a pincushion - GTT, flu jab, blood tests and now the WC jab have all been in the space of a couple of weeks. The nurse who did it today spent so long faffing about - she could only view my medical records back to 1998 so was worried about giving me the jab in case I'd had it as a child hmm so had to go and find someone else in the surgery to ask. Then she came back, then disappeared again to fetch the vaccine. Then when she came back with it, realised she didn't have any needles so went off in search of one! confused I was in there a good 15 minutes for what should have been a 2 minute in and out job. Whilst doing it, she moaned endlessly about MWs not doing the vaccinations themselves but insisting the nurses do it. I was just sitting there thinking 'Get over it, and get on with it woman, it's your job!'

SugarMiceInTheRain Mon 02-Dec-13 11:37:41

Sorry for the mini-rant. Pregnancy is making me pretty impatient! blush

Littleen Mon 02-Dec-13 12:56:13

Sugar can see where you're coming from, I've had all the pregnancy tests and also tons of tests about my new medication to see how my body responds to it! I don't normally care about needles, but bored of it now. Got more coming this friday and another glucose test next week ><

I am feeling hmm...ambivalent today. Sorting out things for our new flat - we can move in Thursday at 3! So that's awesome, only been delayed by 4 days!

The bad news is that we won't have internet up and running until January sometime. For someone who spends their day playing world of warcraft/hearthstone, watching all tv online and spend hours on here, that's going to be very, very boring! Going to look into those temporary internet thingies, but not had good experience with them in the past.

Anyone got suggestions what I and my other half can do to pass the time? :P I'll be taking up my painting again, and reading, but can't do that all day every day either!


I found my old wedge pillow from last pg yesterday - its supposed to support your back when sitting but I find it slides under my bump nicely to give some support when sleeping on my side. Luckily I have always mostly been a side sleeper but I do miss the option of lying on back/front if I want to! Rolling over in the night is a pita due to posterior pelvic pain. I do remember last time that bed became a place of torture in the final 6 weeks or so and I had a about 10 various cushions/pillows!

I have my 28 week (late) appointment with mw this week and hoping to actually meet her! I have had lots of other appointments but mw appointments seem few and far between 2nd pg!

Right, back to getting the dinning room ready for christmas...

winterflowers Mon 02-Dec-13 13:28:28

Thanks for the bf pillow tip lovesto ! I'd been meaning to ask for recommendations for ages. For now I am just sleeping in a pillow fort - probs a good thing I'm on my own as there'd be no room in the bed for an OH. I'm supe r comfy though grin

notone your mlu sounds like the dream. I really need to get in touch with my new hospital and find out what it's like. Can't imagine that swanky tho!

I'm a bit confused about why your nurse needed to know your childhood vaccines sugarmice. Surely we've all had them before and the idea is to boost them. She sounds a bit of a lost cause anyway. And I do hope you get a bit of a break from being a pincushion for a while.

littleen hav r you tried a dongle? Not a personal recommendation but my friend used hers a lot and raved about it. Definitely Jan is too far to last without internet at home!

marzipanned Mon 02-Dec-13 13:43:41

Sugar I feel your pin cushion pain, I actually refused the Down's screening because I couldn't face having yet more blood drawn. Think it was a couple of weeks after I'd been in hospital for an IV and I was still scarred by that experience!

Littleen DH and I never bothered getting internet in our first flat and we used dongles occasionally. Expensive but reasonably fast. Or could you look at adding an unlimited data package to your mobile? (I have NO idea how much that would cost - am a complete luddite.) Or become well acquainted with the owner of a nearby internet cafe?! If such things still exist outside big cities..

Petty your zeal for decorating is amazing! What are you doing to the dining room? Am waiting VERY impatiently for our sitting room to be recarpeted so I can put the tree up..

misskatamari Mon 02-Dec-13 14:23:53

Your MLU sounds amazing notone! Lovely and relaxing for a nice calm birth hopefully! smile

Littleen - god no internet sounds like a nightmare. Do you like any sort of crafting? Crochet is a really easy one once you get the hang of it and it's great for making cute baby blankets and toys.

The brest friend looks awesome! I'm gonna do some eBay trawling and hopefully find a bargain too!

Oh my god I think we can get back in the house tonight! Will have to sleep at the hotel still as it needs lots of sorting still but tomorrow night I should be back in my own bed grin which to be fair isn't as nice and comfy as the bed here, but I will have access to a kitchen and the cats so i can't wait!!!

misskatamari Mon 02-Dec-13 14:28:08

Oh my god - does anyone else need to wee ALL THE TIME when they are standing/walking? I'm not too bad when I'm sitting down but as soon as I go anywhere I just need to wee constantly. Then bugger all comes out and I just need it again. Think it must be uterus pressing on my bladder but it's bloody annoying. Was actually painful before at the bottom of my bump/Pubic bone - fine now I'm
sitting tho thank god!

Sassy20 Mon 02-Dec-13 14:36:41

MissKat - I'm the same - it drives me mad particularly the fact it's a tiny amount when I do go!

EeyoreIsh Mon 02-Dec-13 15:18:41

missk that is great news about the house, I hope it all looks amazing.

I'm going to have to investigate about pillows, clearly! so far I'm just using lots of normal pillows (I've tested each one for its optimal location grin).

Might try for another nap now. my boss agreed to let me do reduced hours today given my sore ribs. I feel like such a wuss when everyone is really busy.

sunflowered Mon 02-Dec-13 15:35:25

misskat - YES!! It's driving dh mad - while I'm sitting down it all feels fine so I'll tell him I definitely don't need to go, hang around for ages chatting/watching tv/etc then as soon as we need to get up and go anywhere it takes about 3 wee stops before I can leave. To be fair, given the amount we have to put up with growing the actual bumps, it's not such a big inconvenience for him really.

Thanks for the zantac advice last week - one day in (just the sainsburys off the shelf version) and a single pill this morning has done the job. Hope this relief lasts for a few days at least - was at breaking point yesterday morning.

24 days left at work - 12 before and 12 after xmas (the 12 after I'm obvs going to be completely dedicated and not just eating cake with whoever i can distract...) Have had some good applicants for my job which I was surprised about - just need to hope one of them is as good in person as on paper smile

gnittinggnome Mon 02-Dec-13 15:35:56

Back from a surprisingly ok weekend at the ILs. The "surprise" baby shower was not as wince-inducing as I had imagined it would be, and MIL had gone to a huge effort to put together a spread I could eat 80% of, which was super-kind of her. The goodies haul was small, but perfectly formed - cute animal print muslins, a Gro-Egg room thermometer, Mr Men board books, some sleep suits and some utterly awesome baby kit from babymoos (http://www.babymoos.com/) plus some second-hand stuff from SIL. FIL wasn't too ghastly, although sitting next to him when he's eating anything will still turn my stomach, but overall, I'm counting it as a win!

Diabetes clinic had both a reprieve from meds (three too-high readings, but the rest were bang on, so if I don't get any more high readings I'll be meds-free. I don't care about the meds so much, but needing them brings on a whole different, more intervention-intensive care approach, so I'd rather avoid them if possible) and a nice registrar who took me through the current care-approach as if I was an adult, who'd done research, and would understand the difference between risks and outcomes and such like. Plus! It turns out the Marks and Spencer Mini Parmesan and Roasted Onion Biscuits, whilst ensuring a quick death from clogged arteries, are diabetes-ok! So I get to pig out a little after all.

Going to have a second viewing of the little house I looked at on Friday this evening, with DH, so you never know. This may be a 100% positive post.

sunflowered Mon 02-Dec-13 15:55:18

Oh - and congrats on the house news misskat, and the diabetes, house and baby shower front gnitting. That must count for some (sugar free) cake to celebrate smile

Littleen Mon 02-Dec-13 17:08:59

thanks for the suggestions!
winter the dongles here are only on 12 month contracts, and so would cost an absolute fortune sad

marzi I have never seen an internet cafe in this country :O

misskat I do like crafty stuff, and I am making aprons and some paint things for christmas, so I do have things to do - it's just all day every day + when I feel hormonal I am more likely to just chuck it all in the floor in a tantrum -.- haha

Also the same with the wee issue - have been since day 1. Grats on good news with house! :D

gnitting glad to hear you enjoyed your baby shower not jealous at all and good luck with the viewing!

Thingymajigs Mon 02-Dec-13 17:12:16

Thanks for the pillow advice. I'm going to try one night with normal pillows and then look at some of your suggestions. I had to be woken up on the bus this afternoon after work. blush I never fail to sleep when I'm travelling somewhere.
That's great news about the diabetes check gnitting. Really hope the house works out for you too. And misskat, you must be so relieved to get in the house again.
I'm sending my secret santa soon. smile I would travel somewhere else to post to confuse my recipient but I'm 7 months pregnant. I can barely be bothered to travel to the sink for a glass of water these days. I'm hoping to finally realise my telekinesis powers this trimester.

CubanoHabana Mon 02-Dec-13 18:47:47

I want telekinesis powers too!

tinypolkadot Mon 02-Dec-13 18:58:31

Hi guys, not posted for a while but I've been reading!

gnitting glad you've had some good news, hope the house viewing goes well!

littleen you never know, no internet may just be a good thing, I went a month with no internet on my phone and have never been so productive!

Another vote for the theraline pillow, it's a life saver.

I woke in a little puddle under my boob today, which is a first, so odd. Have been wearing breast pads all day- do I need to wear them all the time now?

Feeling lots of movement and think I can start to make out body parts! Can anyone else feel their placenta being prodded? Sometimes I'm sure it feels like my umbilical cord is getting a good yank confused

Bought my secret santa today! V excited to post it

My maternity cover started a couple of weeks ago, it's the longest handover period in history!

CubanoHabana Mon 02-Dec-13 19:12:08

Also, toys r us / baby's r us have a mega Monday 50% off online orders on until midnight (although glancing through its only some items which are discounted)...

Unplastered Mon 02-Dec-13 20:09:29

Notone - you don't get that on the NHS round here, you lucky thing!
Our MLU has 2 birth pools, one of which was out of order when I had DD, the other was in use when I arrived... They also said when we went for our tour that it would take at least an hour and a half to fill it so to request it when we rang the hospital prior to arriving. Pretty resigned to not getting that option this time round!

LovesToBake Mon 02-Dec-13 20:16:09

Unplastered and hour and a half?! They must have really low water pressure or a bloody enormous pool! I would never have had my water birth with DS if the hospital pool had taken that long to fill. I think from the moment DH mentioned that I'd like a water birth to baby out (in pool) was about 1 hour so they must have filled it in about 20 mins or so!

barebranches Mon 02-Dec-13 20:59:02

im having my whopping cough jab tomorrow... but i have a cough/cold. will i still be able to have it or do u think they'll tell me to rebook?

rueyrichardson Mon 02-Dec-13 21:35:13

Another clothing conundrum. We've been invited to a wedding in central London on 28 Dec. I love a good wedding, trouble is its black tie. Where the hell do I get a cocktail dress that I will wear once at 8 months gone and that is priced commensurate with use? I need a big cheap sparkly parachute.

jazzcat28 Mon 02-Dec-13 21:39:43

misskat yes on the pee thing! All the time lately, so frustrating especially hauling myself up stairs to sit on the loo expecting niagra falls and ending up with nothing more than a trickle

Was lying on the sofa watching tv with belly exposed this evening <classy> and saw baby wriggling around for the first time! Still can't work out body parts but it was definitely having a good old party in there!

About 17 days left in the office for me, assuming I get 2days working from home a week. Argh all seems v close now!

My new panic is how many newborn sleep suits/vests to have. I have 6 of each in newborn and oodles of 0-3mths. Feeling like I need more newborn as surely 6 will only last 2 days max before I run out??

Ruey what size are you? I have a black jersey fake wrap dress with some sequinny bits on the shoulders and hip that I wear with heels, diamanté and lots of red lipstick! like this one Its a size 16 I think. I can loan it to you after 15th December? Otherwise Ebay have a good selection! (which reminds me I need to list dh's tux to catch the christmas party crowd!)

Can't remember who asked but I am stripping all the the ceiling, walls and floors in dining room to decorate and get ready for our first christmas in our first proper home! We will also be hosting 8 of us for the first time ever too so really could do with a dining room - its the last room for me to make "usable". There will still be lots overall to do in the house but after this I can relax a bit. Hallway/stairs/landing in new year and then outside in spring. I am a demon for DIY grin

Unplastered Mon 02-Dec-13 21:58:49

Ruey what's the budget? Www.seraphine.com have some lovely ones... But over £100.

Jazz... The washer will be going every single day for th next 3 years minimum anyway! I'd start with about 8 in newborn. People will buy outfits as gifts. Also they are not usually in newborn very long - at 9lb 1oz birth weight my DD went into 0-3 almost immediately.

winterflowers Mon 02-Dec-13 22:18:30

gnitting hope the house viewing went well!

The wc vaccine isn't live bare so it should be fine to have whenever. I'm not a dr though so it is probably worth calling to check before you go?

petty I'm so impressed! No way I'd be able to do it but sounds like it'll be so worth it.

Im another with the same bladder issues. It seems to happen also in the night when I roll onto my right. Then drag myself with my 80yr hobble.to the loo for no reason. Not impressed with the LO for that! angry

bugsyburge Tue 03-Dec-13 05:23:15

grrrr another one here who randomly wakes up wide awake in the middle of the night....I want to sleeeeeeep!!!!!envy

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 05:30:07

Morning! Wide awake too. angry

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 05:54:46

At least if we were having summer babies we'd be able to watch the sun rise... I think the darkness just makes waking up at this time even worse.

I've got the opposite sleep problem this morning - first good night's sleep for ages and alarm went off at 5 to get me up in time to do the actual work I need to do today (instead I'm locked into a 'must attend' workshop all day, a really relevant one as it's talking about strategic stuff for the year i won't be there) angry (but grin for only 24 working days to go!! Don't think boss has twigged quite how excited I am to be leaving...)

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 06:10:08

True, but when we have our babies (aaaaargh we're having BABIES) the nights will be getting longer, so that will make getting up ridiculously early easier for then at least smile

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 06:12:22

Oh and in only have 6 working days before Christmas hols now! (But back to it again in January hmm)
That's the office job anyway - not counting my self-employment stuff, but best not to as it's entirely unpredictable and that doesn't work well with achieving goals/ticking things off!

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 06:35:23

Very true notone! Most things feel a lot better when there's a bit of daylight to enjoy.

I'm looking forward to regularly eating breakfast on those beautiful late spring mornings at 10am on the (as yet unbuilt) patio with a peaceful, napping baby beside me. <wakes up from dream version of maternity leave and gets back to work>

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 06:36:39

ps - where's the aaaaargh real babies emoticon when you need it. I still wake up most mornings and think maybe I've overdone it on the flapjacks and chips.

rueyrichardson Tue 03-Dec-13 07:04:47

Thanks Petty and Unplastered. Budget is as low as I can get away with, I think it will be an eBay job. I'm a size 12. It will all be about the accessories grin

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 08:09:09

Argh- had dozed
Off again at 7am and just got woken by a ninja calf cramp. I'd liken it to being woken by a bear trap that someone snuck in under the duvet.
This begs the question - what is more painful: full on calf cramp or second stage labour contraction?! If the contraction then I'm farked. hmm

Thingymajigs Tue 03-Dec-13 08:13:41

I think full on intense cramp is about the same as second stage contractions. That is basically what a contraction is but you get something amazing at the end of it.

gnittinggnome Tue 03-Dec-13 08:33:56

ruey I got a lovely, full-length chiffon tent dress from Crave for around 40 quid, which is quite plain but can be very easily glammed up with accessories, in my case a silvery belt under the boobs, nail polish and a pretty necklace. ASOS have a fairly good selection, although I'd be careful of the fabrics. But yes, I think something plain, ooops, sorry, "classic" with some fabulous accessories has the be the simplest way to go. My tent is going to do me for every formal occasion till April, I reckon!

And we're putting an offer in on the house! Fingers crossed!

LovesToBake Tue 03-Dec-13 09:24:24

notone sorry to hear about the ninja cramp, but it's funny you should ask that because when I was writhing around with hideous cramp in both legs the other night which started down the front of my shins and then gathered pace around the sides to my calves, I randomly declared to DH that it was worse than childbirth. Of course he is delighted to have this little snippet of information and will now remind me every time he gets cramp... But to answer your question, I seriously don't think contractions are any worse and at least they come and go so you get respite between each one and you can prepare yourself to expect the next one!

marzipanned Tue 03-Dec-13 10:11:40

petty can you come and live at my house for a while? Full board provided in return for DIY magic.

gnitting that's fab news about the house - glad you liked it! Good luck!

Interesting to hear about what contractions are like on the pain scale! Cramp I think I can deal with (maybe have never had ninja cramp...)

31 weeks today, all the Feb 4th-ers grin

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 10:38:02

Lovesto and thingy - thanks! And at least contractions I get a bit of warning and potential of pain relief! I've got a very sore calf now. My muscles don't like being into action that aggressively without a warning I think!
Gnitting - got fingers and toes crossed for you! Very exciting. Where in Walthamstow is it?

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 10:42:54

Ps I use to get cramp in my toes all the time from keeping them pointed in training, but that's literally nothing compared to my whole leg going! I would grit my teeth through toe cramp and carry on (when you're 10ft up a rope you have to really, for safety!) but leg cramp is incomparable to anything else I've experienced. shock I shall be eating a lot of bananas heated in the microwave with lashings of Nutella today to ward it off! (Oh and had a dream last night we had a girl and DH wanted to call her Nutella)

Littleen Tue 03-Dec-13 11:32:20

polkadot I'm hoping to have a shiny clean flat atleast! hehe..

can't say I find leg cramps that bad grin perhaps I've adjusted - have had them several nights a week for years, no idea why really smile But they never las more than 30sec max though!

notone call her nutella!!

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 11:46:10

it's a boy though so sadly it just wouldn't be appropriate... wink
Just had to order a 34I bra. Pre pg I was a 30 E or 32 DD. Dark times.

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 11:46:55

(if I can't now breastfeed it'll be a case of the biggest case of false advertising ever)

skibear Tue 03-Dec-13 13:38:37

Another supporter of cake with a Feb due date - checking in!

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 14:47:26

ruey I've got a lacey little black number from jojo maman - website wom't work on my phone so can't link, but apparently it "doesn't look like a maternity dress". Not sure if it'll look as good at 8 months as 6 though. Have a 10% off code if you're intrrested in anynof their stuff smile

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 14:48:57

oops - posted too soon. Meant to say...

gnitting fingers crossed for the house!

notone you could go for nutello as a male version?

and hi to skibear smile

tinypolkadot Tue 03-Dec-13 14:54:09

Hi skibear

It was my turn for the 'oh my aren't you big with 2 months to go' comment today from the girl behind the till at tesco. Oh well!

So, have those who've had the wc vaccine not had any problems, it's all been fine? Just booked mine for Thursday.

gnittinggnome Tue 03-Dec-13 15:04:46

tiny mine was sore, and became a little alarming after 8 hours or so - a raised bump, pink skin, hot to touch. Asked the GP about it the next morning and she commented that the nurse had been heavy handed, so not sure if some of that was due to how it was injected. But she also said it's nothing to worry about and come back if it didn't go down or the skin turned angry red. Don't sleep on it! And give it a day or two to subside.

Hello skibear!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Tue 03-Dec-13 15:12:37

Woah Littleen a 30 second leg cramp would kill me!! Once the cramp is at it's worse mine only usually lasts a few seconds max as I have to act immediately to get rid of it. 30 seconds would have me passing out and I'm usually very good with pain. shock

My WC jab was literally unnoticeable. Didn't feel the injection and couldn't see where I'd been injected afterwards. No redness, swelling or discomfort - even slept on it that night. I think I was very lucky wink

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 16:24:49

Likewise - if mine went in for 30 secs I'd be halfway though sawing the offending limb off with a blunt instrument!
Just had a 'heated discussion' with an old lady in the post office. Couple in there with a gorgeous tiny baby (all wrapped up in a pram), mum walking a bit like john Wayne, and the old woman turns around to me and said "that disgusts me". I was a bit confused and asked her what exactly and she proceeded to tell me they shouldn't be out with a week old baby and that she's had 6 and everyone knows they can't generate their own heat at that age (hmm). I know she was about 90 and so is unlikely to have any opinion swayed, but I couldn't help but tell her that was a load of nonsense, the baby was wrapped up perfectly warmly, and perhaps after a week indoors the mum needed to get a pint of milk in from her local shop, and should be able to do so without being told she's disgusting. angryangryangryangry
People can be so vile.

marzipanned Tue 03-Dec-13 16:35:37

Ooh well done notone. I am so rubbish at those sort of encounters.

tiny mine was basically fine but sore to sleep on for a couple of nights.

skibear welcome! What's your EDD? Baby no 1/2/3/4/5...?

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 16:43:03

Old people can be so judgey angry What we know has changed over the decades and the way we live has too! Funnily enough, the number of babies dying has gone down, in spite of our disgusting modern behaviours...

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 16:48:04

I was just so enraged that this poor woman, prob venturing out for the first time and feeling a bit vulnerable, was being slagged off by a complete stranger to another (ie me), and she expected me to be complicit: She could at least have kept her insane opinion to herself, but if she insists on foisting her bile on to me then she's going to get a reaction.

EeyoreIsh Tue 03-Dec-13 17:04:44

Hi skibear

notone good for you for standing up for the poor lady!

Only 12 working days left smile I'm properly worried about how much I have to do in that time.

It finally dawned on me today that the house isn't going to be finished by the time I start maternity leave. DH has done lots, but I also can't help but think he's had 6 months off work so we really shouldn't be this far behind. I think I need to have a proper chat with him tonight about it.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Tue 03-Dec-13 17:08:25

Notoneforselfies I can't bear people like that. I was in a cafe with my friend when our boys were about 18 months old. They were being quiet and as good as gold. A table of old ladies sat near us were saying

'Mothers shouldn't be out in cafés with their babies they should stay at home. Never did it in our day etc. '

It made me so angry. angry How would they feel if we said 'old people shouldn't go to cafés, they should stay at home'?

sunflowered Tue 03-Dec-13 17:39:57

In their day mothers had to stay at home because they didn't have washing machines, fridges or heating so spent their days washing, drying, doing daily grocery shopping, and clearing away the ashes from the fire. Women now have the chance to engage with other adults while they're raising their babies instead of engaging with antiquated domestic equipment all day (ok, maybe I'm skipping a generation - but my grandma lived like that and she was raising her children from the 40s to late 70s)

(Must stop ranting and finish my work or I'll be spending my evening engaging with it instead of new fangled household equipment aka tv...)

I hope I'm not like that when I'm old sad

EeyoreIsh Tue 03-Dec-13 17:49:01

oops, chat with DH about the house turned into argument sad I'm staying out of his way and getting work done. I hate arguing sad

lastnightopenedmyeyes Tue 03-Dec-13 17:51:24

Yes sunflowered that's right.

I think I'd have gone mental without trips to coffee shops with friends when DS was small!! grin

tinypolkadot Tue 03-Dec-13 17:58:21

Oh no eeyorish hope you resolve your argument soon. If it's any consolation my dh is pretty slow at doing things, I still havent mastered the art of getting him to do stuff with him thinking it's his idea.

I can't believe that old woman, love lastnights suggestion of not allowing old people into cafe's grin

Thanks for all the positive stories about the wc jab, I've managed to get the whole morning off work for it as it's not until 11.50 - result.

Another meal for 1 tonight, a choice of pasta and pesto or hoops on toast, lucky me.

EeyoreIsh Tue 03-Dec-13 18:12:25

I think I'll have to bake a cake and cook dinner. I basically accused him of slacking off and only doing those bits of the house he thought needed doing. to be fair the last part of that is true he has done lots of the house, it's probably more that there's a never ending list of jobs to do. Oh well. We've booked the plasterer in fit Monday now so at least that'll happen.

winterflowers Tue 03-Dec-13 18:22:43

Good one notone it's a totally outdated view and we should be able to be out and about as soon as we are comfortable. What about Nutello for a boy? fgrin

I wasn't keen on the wc jab but the more I hear of you ladies getting it the more normalised it is sounding and I'll probs end up getting it. Finally have my 28 wk check tomo and am praying I don't have the same mw as last time. Am SO looking forward to hearing bean's hb again tho. Am seriously considering a private scan just after xmas as don't think I can go till end of feb without seeing her again.

Welcome skibear!

Littleen Tue 03-Dec-13 19:00:54

haha perhaps 30sec is wrong then - it feels like a long while! But I have had ones where I've though "why is it not going away.." smile Normally stretching the foot works quickly though!

Good job telling the old lady notone they can be so mean grin

eeyeore make him a cake and it might be better. I think it's a man thing, starting things and then never finishing it. Or finishing it so slowly it's madness. I once waited 6 months for my ex to clear out broken glass and beer from the freezer when he put a beer bottle in there. When he finally did it, it was because we sold the fridge to the new tenants -.-

EeyoreIsh Tue 03-Dec-13 19:18:18

I'm making dinner, cake next! He has cleared one of the rooms and is now madly stripping wallpaper whilst I mumsnet in there.

Baby has been really quiet today, still moved but not like usual, I've got my 31 week appointment tmw so I can get it checked out then.

For others that are 31 weeks today, when are you having your next appointment?

jazzcat28 Tue 03-Dec-13 19:19:44

My wc jab was fine on the day/night I had it but my arm was v sore for the following 24-36hrs. All fine now but it was tricky to sleep on that side!

Old ladies don't realise a) how patronising/rude their comments come across and b) how loud they come out (presumably as their hearing is impaired). Well done for sticking up for that poor mum! My grandmother is famous in our family for saying stupid things at the wrong time so I'm bracing myself for comments already! I'm pretty sure they will centre around name choice, breast milk and routines.

Am increasingly fed up with work, another week where I'm in 4 days instead of 3 as per the plan. Next week I'm only in twice admittedly due to anti d appt, masters graduation and ante natal class, but still. I am gonna be dead to the world by Friday.

marzipanned Tue 03-Dec-13 19:22:35

Eeyore I must admit I have some sympathy with your DH as am at home atm and finding it a real struggle to motivate to get things done. Ironically when I was hugely busy I was much, much better at actually achieving things! Currently I can blame my inactivity on the fact the building work hasn't finished, so I better turn into a whirling dervlish when it does smile

Appointments seem a bit different in Scotland - we get one at 32 wks rather than 31, then the next one is at 36. 36!!! That sounds incredibly close to the finish line.

Winter I felt a bit bamboozled into getting the WC jab - I hadn't really been planning on it, and then when I went in for the flu jab the MW just gave me both. But in retrospect I'm kind of glad that happened (well, thus far I am...hopefully there aren't any unforeseen consequences...)

barebranches Tue 03-Dec-13 19:45:50

had my WC jab... so far fine. treated my self to cake as a reward!!!
Have a cough and its causing me bladder problems sad might have to crack out my free sample of tena lady....

laura0007 Tue 03-Dec-13 19:56:42

Good for you notone! Silly old bat sticking her nose in!

Eeyore I'm 31 weeks today too and my next appt is on Friday. Hopefully the boy has grown this time!

I feel very very naughty. I've just had a mcdonalds! I never ever ever eat stuff like that when I'm not pregnant! This baby has turned me into a junk food fiend!

laura0007 Tue 03-Dec-13 19:57:19

Bare I'm the same! I coughed at work earlier and felt a little trickle. I just pretended it hadn't happened.... blush

Unplastered Tue 03-Dec-13 20:04:49

What it is with old dears sticking their noses in where they're not wanted! I was doing a weeks shopping with my Dd (aged about 2) in Tesco's. this takes around N hour or so to get round the supermarket, if I've written a list. I get one day off work a week - and was told by a snooty older woman that 'in her day' they took children to the park, not to the shops. Well, if you want me to feed her dinner tonight I have to go shopping... Mind your own business! I'd like to say I replied "we'll, in your day maybe you weren't at work full time and trying to cram all your housework, child activities, shopping into one flipping day a week" but actually I just stared, lost for words and wAlked away.

barebranches Tue 03-Dec-13 20:11:59

laura my dh keeps laugh at me... mean man!!!

EeyoreIsh Tue 03-Dec-13 20:23:12

bare I think I'll be wearing my tena lady sample when I go into work on Thursday. I can't sneeze or cough without a trickle unless I have an empty bladder sad I've been doing my pelvic floor exercises like mad but no change.

marzi you're right, it's hard to keep motivated. I feel doubly bad because I really haven't done much around the house since getting pregnant, so I'm having a go at DH whilst being bad myself. We've discussed it calmly now, hopefully he'll forgive me fully once he has cake in his tummy.

marzipanned Tue 03-Dec-13 20:30:12

Oh Eeyore I wasn't suggesting you should have done any of the work, you've been zooming all over the continent like a madwoman! Anyway - glad the argument is over, arguments are horrid.

Unplastered shock I think I need to grow a much thicker skin before giving birth..

Littleen Tue 03-Dec-13 20:39:58

bare and laura I had the same issue earlier today blush Now squeezing as a hero. We have to remember to squeeze when we cough etc!

notoneforselfies Tue 03-Dec-13 22:13:57

Just back from 4th NCT sesh - another good'un. Much immature hilarity at DH's doing nappy changes on dolls (my DH got marmite/meconium grin) So glad we've got a funny bunch though, makes it all a lot more entertaining! Only got 2 more and a bf session to go... That's another milestone I guess!

barebranches Wed 04-Dec-13 07:03:11

ahhhhh my arm after sleeping on my whooping cough jab!!!! angry angry angry angry angry angry

Thingymajigs Wed 04-Dec-13 07:59:02

It is uncomfortable isn't it bare. I had the flu in one arm and the WC in the other. I was stuck rolling around in bed every night for a week.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 04-Dec-13 08:08:21

I must've been really lucky with mine, I had flu and WC at the same time and neither were sore. I hope you feel better soon!!

Champagnebubble Wed 04-Dec-13 08:10:35

I love sleep sooooo much normally, but I woke up at 1am thinking 'great, I managed to sleep through the night, on to another day' wide awake! I was so disappointed when I looked at the clock!!!!! It is so weird!!!!! I wanna feel normal again! sad I'm so tired but not sure my body realises that anymore!!!!!!

jazzcat28 Wed 04-Dec-13 08:31:53

ooh glad to hear the NCT classes are going well notone. Our first one is in January and I'm quite looking forward to it.

Have started a sweepstake amongst friends (gender, date, weight) and I'm a little shocked almost everyone thinks I'm having a baby weighing more than 8lb!! Must look a bit tubby for my dates...

misskatamari Wed 04-Dec-13 08:47:15

I know what you mean champagne - I'm wide awake most nights at between about 3 and 4 and sometimes manage to nod back off after an hour it two confused

I decided to do my Preggo hypnosis when I was awake last night - figured it might help me fall back to sleep (it didn't) and it was at least a useful thing to do at that time.

We've got our nct classes this weekend and Monday night. Hope we get a good group! DH is not looking forward to spending his whole weekend at baby classes bless him!

Sooo nice waking up at home and being able to get up and make my own breakfast! We spent yesterday cleaning and rug doctoring the downstairs carpets and they look so nice. Now I just want to chuck everything away tho! I think nesting must be kicking in as normally I love having loads of pretty things about but now I just want everything clean! And bare! Midwife appointment this afternoon smile hopefully we'll get to discuss home births a bit more (and I must get my arse in gear and hire a bloody birth pool!!)

I hope your cake worked on DH Eeyore! smile

EeyoreIsh Wed 04-Dec-13 08:53:57

I've got nct this weekend and midwife this afternoon too missk smile It must have been so lovely to wake up in your own home.

DH is up and working on the house already. I feel like I've bullied him into it though, massive guilt going on. The cake was yummy, he had two slices last night.

Unplastered Wed 04-Dec-13 09:29:43

WC jab this morning then a dash into work. Hope it doesn't make my arm too sore, got a long day ahead!

marzipanned Wed 04-Dec-13 10:22:15

Another one here with NCT this weekend, looking forward to it but also slightly wary of situations in which you feel like you MUST make friends with people.

misskat I am exactly the same, I want to throw away everything.
Very jealous of your lovely Rug Doctor-ed carpets. We're waiting for new ones to get put in, then I can get the two ripped apart rooms deep cleaned and buy some new storage things so that all the things that I'm not allowed to throw away will at least be out of sight. And I can finally, finally put up the Christmas tree!

LovesToBake Wed 04-Dec-13 13:28:58

For those with NCT class worries (about the enforced friend-making bit), I clearly remember looking around the circle at our first class and thinking everyone looked a bit weird and unfriendly. 2 years on and I've got a fantastic circle of friends from the group, we're all still in touch, meet up whenever we can (less often these days with most being back at work) and I love watching their little ones growing up alongside my DS. We've already got our Christmas party and joint 2nd birthday parties in the diary too!

EeyoreIsh Wed 04-Dec-13 14:49:26

Just had a colleague share her four day/permanent damage nightmare labour story with me hmm

Midwife appointment was fine. Everything good, bump measuring a bit small but she wasn't worried.

I'm looking forward to nct, but I hope they don't judge me for having a pork pie for lunch each day grin

So much work to do but I'm shattered.

Littleen Wed 04-Dec-13 15:28:52

Eeyeore I had a friend do that as well once I announced I was pregnant :P Luckily another friend then followed it up by telling her very pleasant story, so got both sides! Haha. Enjoy your nct class smile

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 04-Dec-13 19:22:45

I had a horrific birth with DS but all my best friends (6 kids between them) had wonderful experiences so I'm focussing on that possibility this time grin

marzipanned Wed 04-Dec-13 19:55:08

Oh Loves I hope our group is like yours! I'll be happy if I meet just one Mum-to-be that I get along really well with.

This is weird, but I actually quite like hearing awful labour stories. I like to mentally prepare for the worst. And, although I am enjoying being pregnant now, the whole thing in general has been so tough that I am really, really excited about giving birth (you can all laugh at me in Feb when I'm recounting my own labour horror story smile )

jazzcat28 Wed 04-Dec-13 20:51:31

<wail> DH just found my first stretch mark sad

<bigger wail> journey home from work took 2hrs 30

<meltdown> can't eat cake as have gtt test weds next week

Somanychanges Wed 04-Dec-13 20:58:11

Evening all,

notone I know how you feel. I woke up screaming in the night, surprised my children didn't wake up. I had unbearable cramp in my right calf. It felt like somone had just stabbed me. Woke my DH up with the screaming and he lept into action rubbing it. I had the same with DS so he has been there, done that. Felt bad for waking him though as he has such long and hard work days and he seems like he is under the weather at the moment.

When I got up in the morning I nearly fell over. I had forgotten about the cramp in the night and my calf was really painful to put pressure on. Hoping for no more cramps tonight.

Went to see consultant today and got my blood results. They are all fine so the OC hasn't started yet so no idea why I am itching so much.

I am going to sleep now as I am pooped. I am praying you all have a lovey, long and uninterrupted sleep.

camwombat Wed 04-Dec-13 21:34:18

My nct group for DS is also lovely. Now a few people have moved away we are aiming for meetups every couple of months with all of us. Before that we were still meeting weekly with different folk each time. We email daily about everything and anything, there was a whole 87 emails about Ryan Gosling/Channing Tatum/Insert other similar men. They have been a fantastic set of people to get to know We have our Xmas get together soon, where we do secret Santa for the kids it's cheaper to buy for one and we do similar for their birthdays.

bugsyburge Wed 04-Dec-13 22:35:26

ladies I need some random advice (this will be long).....

I work for a fairly small company & have always felt undervalued by the MD.... I perform an integral role as a trouble shooter that keeps all the plates spinning in the air (if I do say so myself) but because he doesnt visit our site very often I'm sure he sees me as someone who doesn't do much more than answer the phone (mainly because we have very few issues because said plays are continuing to spinangry )

this doesn't normally bother me because the other director and the general manager do appreciate the effort I put in over and above what is required so I just let my I'll feeling towards the MD subside

anyhoos since July the general manager has been trying to negotiate a promotion and a pay rise for me but has always been more or less fobbed off although the general manager has continued to persevere & so far had got me a marginal bonus for the months of Nov, Dec & Jan.....I felt this was a slim gesture to shut me up &I had made it clear to the GM that I felt my other points were going to be fobbed off until time ran out & I went on mat leave at the end of Jan.

GM said he understood how I felt and the conversation with MD was due to be continued on monday regarding back dating the bonus to July, re looking at the smp I would be given as well as giving a clear indication of a promotion on my return from mat leave.

HOWEVER my GM was rushed to hospital Sunday night and it looks unlikely he will return before Xmas therefore none of this conversations will take place and I feel the MD has 'won'.

I am therefore contemplating starting my mat leave 2jan (but finishing 20 Dec) as without me &bthe GM on site the whole plant will have some serious issues.....

this is completely out of character for me because if anything I'm too nice, I don't like to leave people in the lurch and try to be as helpful as I can but I really do feel so unappreciated & a bit like I want to teach them a lesson.

Dh says to do what I feel is best but I'm concerned that I am cutting my nose off to spite my face by finishing work one month earlier than planned and therefore losing one months wage.... but on the other hand, I will be going on mat leave anyway so I'm only bringing the inevitable forward by 4 weeks so does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?

apologies for hi jacking the thread and well done if you have got this far.... what do you think i should do oh wise women? grin

notoneforselfies Wed 04-Dec-13 22:36:34

Oh Jazzcat you're better than me - I have GTT tomorrow at 8.30am and have just polished off 2 rolo yoghurts blush I thought I'd better finish them off before I got told not to eat any more crap. I realise my logic is flawed.
Terrible acid tonight. Must get hold of Zantac tomorrow. Double dosing gaviscon no longer cutting it.

notoneforselfies Wed 04-Dec-13 22:41:55

Bugsy - is there a reason you've hit on that date? Can you compromise and bring it forward 2 weeks? So you only lose out on 2 weeks pay but they will have some time without you both (or maybe that's not long enough to be 'felt'?)
I do sympathise as been in a similar situation myself for some time.

bugsyburge Wed 04-Dec-13 22:49:55

I thought about the 2 week compromise but because we shut down over Xmas I would still be giving my 28 days notice but would actually be finishing in 10 working days which would make them feel a bit panicky deep down.... I'm not sure if I'm just being a hormonal nutter though hmm

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 07:05:53

bugsy I can see why you're frustrated. Can you try talking to the MD or someone else in the GM's absence? Are you happy that you'll be able to finish everything necessary off in the next fortnight? I hope you come to a happy solution.

Is anyone else waking up really hungry? For the last week when I wake in the night I really really want carbs, so by the time I wake in the morning I'm super hungry. It might be because I struggle to eat much dinner, but I'm seriously tempted to keep a sandwich by my bed to stave off the hunger.

marzipanned Thu 05-Dec-13 08:41:43

bugsy tricky situation. I think what I would do in your shoes is basically write yourself an appraisal for the year with very concrete examples of everything you have done in order to keep those plates spinning. (If you can pull up old emails/files/etc as examples, so much the better.)
Insist on having a face to face meeting with your MD, send him said appraisal in advance (I understand you can't get your GM to sign off on it, but is there anyone else more senior to you with whom you work closely? If not, sod the signing off.)
Be really ballsy and basically tell him that if your demands aren't met you will be leaving for ML at the beginning of Jan. Make it clear that you are integral and he can't afford this, but be willing to negotiate.

I think women are really, really rubbish at asking for what we want/deserve in the professional sphere. I think taking your ML early is not the ideal solution because (a) the pay and (b) less time with your baby at the other end, but hopefully it won't come to that.

Eeyore funny, I was going to ask this today as well. I eat a huge dinner every night and I still wake up hungry most nights. I keep a cereal bar by the bed and it either gets eaten at about 4am during insomnia or first thing on waking. I forgot to put one out the other night and ended up eating leftover pumpkin pie in the pitch black kitchen smile

camwombat Thu 05-Dec-13 08:44:02

I always wake up hungry, I've taken to keeping a little snack by the side of the bed to stave off these feelings. One morning last week it didnt work and I ended up having an enormous double breakfast grin

I always assumed it was because if bump is very active during the evening and night then they are using what you have eaten thus making you hungry. or at least thats what I'm telling myself

Sassy20 Thu 05-Dec-13 09:14:09

Eeyore - I've had a banana and kitkats by my bed every night for ages now and at some point during the early hours at least one of them gets eaten if not both! smile

winterflowers Thu 05-Dec-13 10:39:03

bugsy I agree with marzi, if you pull together some really clear egs of of what you have achieved to substantiate what you say and show clearly your performance that gives you a v good bargaining position. I think use this as the base of the discussion, and go in requesting the full leave you said above but be prepared to negotiate by a week or so to show commitment/willing. But defo stand up for yourself and get your worth, we do need to be better at tthis! Good luck!

I always wake up hungry as well, must be bean's night time antics.

Had the nicest mw appt yesterday and she gave me the same reasonable advice on movements, less than 10 or so in a day and call in. So much less stressful than the other vague stuff. She let me record the heartbeat as well so now I have it saved on my phone - is wonderful!

Gah was putting ds to bed last night and noticed a big circular stain on my dress at left nipple height! I had obviously leaked and it had dried but now I don't know If it had been like that all afternoon in work blush or if my ds crying in the evening had triggered let down! Hoping for the latter as I was doing 1-2-1 work with my boss yesterday afternoon blush blush blush

I still have to eat every 2 hours-ish!

Got mw appointment in half an hour - hoping to actually meet her today! Forgot to get some pee though...

gnittinggnome Thu 05-Dec-13 11:58:28

Our offer got accepted! But we have to move quickly, and if all goes well the timing will be pretty good - exchanging around the same time Bean is likely to get here, so around 6 weeks crossover from flat to house - a leisurely move and lots of time to paint / buy bits and pieces. Ok, so it's a single-glazed house in the middle of winter, but at least Bean won't overheat!

gnittinggnome Thu 05-Dec-13 11:59:41

Oh wow petty here's hoping it was an evening thing... I'm still waiting for any signs of colostrum to come through, but nothing doing so far. Are you wearing breast pads?

winterflowers Thu 05-Dec-13 12:02:09

Yey gnitting that's amazing! Proper made up for you.

petty am sure that you would have had some funny looks if had been in work. Fx it was just an evening thing. I haven't had any leakage or anything to date that I've noticed, another joy to come!

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 12:43:31

Gnitting that's awesome news! Congratulations!
No leakage from me yet, though I do get a drop if I squeeze confused

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 13:02:01

gnitting that's fabulous news, Yay! I'm so pleased for you.

I'm relieved to hear I'm not alone in the midnight munchies. I think I might start taking a Marmite sandwich to bed with me grin I thought I was some kind of weird freak.

I'm totally fed up of work today. Not the work itself, but all the fucking comments in getting. According to everyone my bump is too small sad plus lots of unasked for advice. It doesn't help that bump measured a little small yesterday (only 1cm short). I just hate the way my body has become open for public discussion. When I'm in next week I'm just going to wear a huge smock. Sorry to let the side down shrops!

Thingymajigs Thu 05-Dec-13 13:02:55

That's fantastic news gnitting. smile
Not much leaking going on here either which I really thought I'd be struggling with by now due to over supply previously. I've bought some washable breast pads and Lasinosh in preparation though. I want to buy a pretty nursing bra so if anyone has any suggestions please share.
The wind is awful here. I'm sitting in the house listening to things crashing into the house. It's quite scary. I'm comforting myself with DP's homemade chocolate orange cheesecake. Well, someone has got to eat it, it won't last forever.

Thingymajigs Thu 05-Dec-13 13:06:49

I know the feeling eeyore. I get both comments. I'm never the right size. I think people just want to say something, anything, even if it's completely inappropriate or could worry someone.
I've found a sense of humour about it now and even managed a laugh when mum shouted out from her car that I was waddling down the street like a duck.

misskatamari Thu 05-Dec-13 13:19:47

Bugsy - I hope you get things sorted out at work. GM sounds like an arse! I think Marzis advice is excellent - fingers crossed you can show him all the things you do and make him see sense!

Oh no Petty! I'm sure it will have been an evening thing. Breast pads at the ready!

Eeyore I'm the same with food - although I am sort of like it anyway and usually keep some crackers by the bed even when not Preggo. Although now I do need to eat every two hours when awake too smile

Gnitting that is AWESOME news on the house! I am so chuffed for you! I bet you can't wait to move in and make it home. Just pick up some thermals and you'll be fine wink.

Yaaaaay my gifts from Santa just arrived! I want to put up my tree and get festive now. Must get my offering wrapped and posted too grin.

Spoke to insurance company this morning who said we should be able to get carpet replaced on or policy - just need loss adjusters to give us a budget now grin. I've no idea what type of colour to get tho a it's a sort of biscuit at the moment which is lovely but gets so grubby as it goes through from front door to kitchen (plus the cat likes to puke on it leaving it with oh so lovely stains hmm). Don't know whether to go for something darker - but then people say they show up every bit of crap! I've become obsessed since we rug doctored it anyway and would probably Hoover about 7 times a day if I could be arsed!

Finally got some chrimbo shopping done today thanks to amazon and have emailed enquiring about placenta encapsulation so feel rather productive!

Ooooh did someone post recently about a lamp thing that was good for night feeds? I'm sure I've seen one that looked like a giant egg and was really dim and got dimmer until it turned off....or am I imagining things? Also any tips for room thermometers? I'm sure some of you have mentioned gro-egg ones? Or does any big standard one do? Feeling the need to actually get things a bit more ready for the baby now after being bloody lazy for months and just buying the odd baby grow! grin

marzipanned Thu 05-Dec-13 14:08:41

Gnitting YIPPEE!!! Do you have an estate agent link you can post on FB? I love looking at properties online smile

misskat the dimming light that somany recommended to me is this one:

It actually just arrived today, but I haven't tried it out yet. As for a thermometer, I think I went for this one (can't remember if it was this or very similar and it's buried right at the bottom of the bursting Kiddicare box)
Basically it does room temp or body temp via forehead or ear. I just thought I might as well get a 3 in 1. DH also insisted on a bath thermometer, I think for his own bath really.

No leaks here, and I haven't dared do another squeeze test since the last one a few weeks ago.

In other news, I bought the Belvoir 'mulled wine' cordial. It's okay. It's not mulled wine. It's a million miles from mulled wine. It's a bit like a grown up hot Ribena.

Sassy20 Thu 05-Dec-13 14:11:40

Gnitting - great news on the house. We moved when I was a day overdue with dd - luckily she arrived a week late!

Some advice please - saw docs on Monday as suspected thrush which she confirmed and gave me canestan prescription. Using the cream on and off but now got light pink discharge. Anyone had this - is it anything to worry about? X

misskatamari Thu 05-Dec-13 14:39:58

Awesome marzi - thank you! Only 7 left in stock! I must buy one now!!!

Sassy - I have had thrush a few times this pregnancy but never a pinkish discharge. It's probably absolutely nothing to worry about but maybe give the docs/midwife a call just to be on the safe side and put your mind at rest x

Congratulations gnitting!!!

I have only had a teeny tiny leaks so far, for some reason in the night but this was erm.... quite big. 'spose I better get some breast pads then - at least they are an extra layer of warmth for my poor nips grin

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 17:12:08

Misskat - whatever you do get a bleach cleanable (i.e. 100% polypropylene) carpet! It's a revelation for cat puke and super soft. Dark carpets do show up every bit of crap and are highly annoying so I'd say go for lighter, but bleach cleanable.
Also, if your cats are prone to raking the carpet on the stairs etc make sure you get a cut pile rather than loop pile. And don't scrimp on the underlay - makes a world of difference. This is very geeky I know but I did a lot of carpet research just recently!

misskatamari Thu 05-Dec-13 17:32:22

Oooh no that's great notone! The one we have now is bleachable - we just haven't ever bothered to do it but carpet cleaning brings it up lovely. Luckily we should only need a little bit of underlay where the leak was. It's crazy as the damage is only about 1m of carpet but as it's open plan we need to replace the whole of the downstairs and the stairs. Silly house! smile

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 18:10:39

We're ordering new carpet at the moment. DH wants beige on the stairs and landing, but I'm putting my foot down and insisting on stripes to hide the dirt.

Only 10 working days left, woohoo! NCT tmw, Sat and Sunday. I'm confused as to why we need to bring cushions so we can sit in the floor though, I'm secretly hoping it's so us preggos can have an afternoon naps whilst our partners go to the pub...

I'm such an idiot. I forgot my earphones today, and my train home is delayed. So I treated myself so a new pair, only for it to be in one of those boxes that I now can't get into. It's so frustrating I might cry!

marzipanned Thu 05-Dec-13 18:44:25

Eeyore I think the cushions might be for labour positions, our email said bring cushions or a birthing ball if you have one. Earphone inaccessibility is a nightmare!

Littleen Thu 05-Dec-13 18:53:36

grats on the house then gnitting!

On the carpet thing - just get hardwood flooring! Looks amazing and is very easy to clean! No stains whatsoever, and then you can decorate with fluffy cosy rugs instead, which you can then clean if necessary smile A loooot less hassle than carpeted flooring.

Moving house tomorrow! :D

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 18:58:54

marzi a nice fellow commuter took pity on me and cracked into the packaging grin

littleen I'd love wood throughout, but DH prefers carpet, so we've got wood/lino (eugh but can't afford to replace) downstairs and carpet upstairs.

CubanoHabana Thu 05-Dec-13 19:13:39

Woo hoo for house things!

Also my secret Santa arrived today... Itching to open it!

tinypolkadot Thu 05-Dec-13 19:18:08

I'm so annoyed. And a bit naughty too, but I don't care.

Don't have the best relationship with dm at the best of times. Anyway we won't see her over xmas so she's sent presents, one each for dh and I which I can understand as she has been buying for the baby.

A while ago she tell me she's bought herself a onesie and its the best thing ever, and she said I'll get you one for christmas. I said, well it won't exactly fit will it confused. Anyhow, she changed her mind, said she'd send some money - I thought 'phew' don't have to deal with that now.

So roll on a month or so and she says she's changed her mind about the money and presents are in the post. They arrive today and I couldn't help myself, I am very bad. I opened it just to see if I had indeed got a onsie and yep, it is. Not only that but its a 12-14 no chance of me getting into that until next Christmas then as I'm a 16 in maternity at the mo.

I went and bought size 18 nighties at the weekend for after the birth ffs.

Don't know if this is one of her mind tricks or if she just genuinely thinks I'll pop back to a size 14.

Argh. And I had a really nice little parcel of gifts for her. I just give up, won't let it bother me too much, I'll have the best present ever in 2 months grin

Sorry for the me post.

Had my wc jab this morning and all was well smile

Congrats gnitting and good luck tomorrow littleen!

gnittinggnome Thu 05-Dec-13 19:29:04

Thanks all! I am refusing to get excited about this one though, till we're in! marzi no can do I'm afraid, all the agents have is a photo of the outside front, which looks like some kind of borstal due to the spikey thing on the wall of the nursery/community centre next door.

I got my hair cut today, then did a little light shopping, bought some disposable, cheap nighties and some maternity pads and then came home. I am exhausted. I am wrapped up like a little old lady, with my first hot water bottle of the season, demanding nursery food from my DH.

That is all just a precursor to say to all you ladies who are still working, ohmigod, how the hell do you do it? I was quite chipper till a couple of weeks ago, and now I'm just knackered! I stand (slump) in awe of your abilities to work, think, be productive, raise children! and generally not collapse.

Littleen Thu 05-Dec-13 20:15:33

Eeyeore My other half was talking about carpeted flooring as well, but I absolutely cannot stand it (unhygienic in my experience, but then again I am very clumsy and messy) so I refused, on the promise that we will have lovely lush rugs down smile Sheepskin on the side of the bed anyone? So soft and warm on the toes in the morning!

tinypolkadot thank you for the good luck! Don't think too much about which size she got you - my mum always used to get me way too big clothes, so she obv thought I was chunkier than I was! Probably just mindless buying, not intentional smile (hopefully)

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 20:28:53

would have liked to have had floorboards upstairs for style reasons (we have them downstairs) but they were in too bad a condition up there to contemplate leaving uncovered, and laying down hardwood flooring over the top was a tad beyond our budget! (to put it mildly!) Didn't want laminate floor in the bedrooms... As we don't have shoes upstairs and clean the carpets regularly too it's not too unhygienic I hope! hmm Will be friendly on crawling knees and hands too grin

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 20:29:46

I put sheepskin on top of the carpet too - I am spoilt grin

jazzcat28 Thu 05-Dec-13 20:36:59

Ooh where did you get your cheap nighties from gnitting? I need one for labour (already got my nice comfy post-birth one sorted).

Wishing all of you moving/buying houses good luck and stress free vibes. I wouldn't want to move again in a hurry especially close to Xmas and being pregnant!

I naively think that I might be able to decorate our hall stairs and landing whilst I'm off on mat leave (baby sleeps right?!) and want a stripey carpet for stairs and landing. It's currently plain dark navy which shows up every speck of dirt. We shall see how parenthood treats me first....

Those of you travelling to relatives over Xmas and new year, are you taking a hospital bag? I will be 33 ish wks and not sure? Will definitely take my notes but perhaps full on hospital bag is a little bit premature?

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 20:40:49

jazz my midwife told me to take the bag when I go home for Xmas... it gives me a deadline to have sorted one by!

I have 6 mini pork pies to get me through my nct weekend grin

jazzcat28 Thu 05-Dec-13 20:48:55

Oh gosh eeyore if that's the case I need to get my stuff sorted! How many weeks will you be?

Thingymajigs Thu 05-Dec-13 20:52:38

DP has announced that he's staying over at his friends house on Saturday night and he's going to a work do the weekend after and staying at his mum's that night. I'm a bit annoyed. There's nothing wrong with him going out, he rarely ever gets the chance so he should but its made me cross. I just feel helpless, vulnerable, fat and stuck here with the kids. I'm being ridiculously hormonal aren't I?

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 20:53:42

I'm 31+4 today jazz. She thought I should have bag ready already... I would say she talks rubbish but she did tell me to eat more cake so clearly she is full of good advice grin

Thisisfreakingmeout Thu 05-Dec-13 20:55:20

Help me out pregos. MIL asked if I have any stretchmarks. When I said no she actually lifted my top to check if this is true. Then said "wait wait I think I can see one!" And pointed and laughed. (It is a vein, bitch).

I am so furious she would be this insensitive. I am sure it will happen, I'm not stupid, but I will certainly not discuss it in a room full of in laws when it does.

Sorry for venting but as she is someone who takes offence easily she was pretty ridiculous. I don't think it takes a genius to consider it might be a time when I have some body issues.

My blood is boiling!

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 21:07:45

Oh my god thisis, shock how the hell did you not slap her? That's a bloody ridiculously an obviously awful thing to do! I'd have pulled up her top and passed comment on the state of her belly. Then slapped her. You're totally right to be furious. Did you say anything, or too shocked?

EeyoreIsh Thu 05-Dec-13 21:10:33

That is totally out of order thisis shock I think I would have slapped her, cried or pulled up her top. She's crossed a line. Can you have a word when you've calmed down?

Thisisfreakingmeout Thu 05-Dec-13 21:21:12

I am regretting that I was too shocked to say anything. If there are anymore overly personal remarks I will certainly be ready next time. Thanks for the support dears. X

Thingymajigs Thu 05-Dec-13 21:21:20

That is outrageous thatis. I don't think I'd ever bother visiting her again if my MIL did that to me. That's a line that no one crosses.

Thingymajigs Thu 05-Dec-13 21:21:50

thisis, even.

camwombat Thu 05-Dec-13 21:33:12

jazz last time I got the cheapest nighties primary sold, I think it was a pack of two for £3. So I could change if needed. I also bought cheap pants from there, that I could throw away too.

thisis thats totally out of order and a real invasion of you. I too would be blood boiling. and I've got new stretchmarks on my old ones

Err I am literally only planning on taking my notes if we go anywhere. If I take the bag, we'll have to take the car seat too...

Taking cushions to your nct classes? gosh thats a new one on me. Birth balls if you don't have one I recommend I used mine loads in late pregnancy and it saved many an uncomfortable evening.

Good luck with the house moves and the decorating....

notoneforselfies Thu 05-Dec-13 21:38:09

I'll definitely be taking my bag and the car seat when we go away from Christmas. It's 2.5 hours away and I'll be 34+ weeks. A few of my friends have gone into labour or had hospital stays at this stage so it's too much in my consciousness for me to be parted with it at that stage! It's such a remote chance I'd ever need it but I shall be comforted by it being stashed in the boot!

Unplastered Thu 05-Dec-13 21:42:44

Thisis, I would be seriously peed off by that. As others have said there's a line between joking and invasion of privacy and she's crossed it. Will your OH have a word in your behalf?
And actually stretch marks are not inevitable. I still don't have any (only teeny tiny silver ones on my hips that I've had for ever), even after 9lb 1oz DD.

Champagnebubble Thu 05-Dec-13 22:02:37

Wow thisis!!!! Shocked is not the word!!!!

I got accosted outside my station tonight. The lady tried to hand me a leaflet and talk to me. She said 'free spinning class round the corner'. Bearing in mind my Baby on Board badge was on full display, I was still outta breath from climbing the stairs I was like huh!?! I almost laughed my head off! I hope she wasn't suggesting I looked like I needed the classes!!!!! shock

Hope everyone is good, having caught up with the thread yet.

Unplastered Thu 05-Dec-13 22:09:13

DH has just got home to find me in my PJ's eating a bowl of sprouts and mayonnaise. I hadn't even thought it might be a bit of an of combination til I saw his the look on his face.
I really must start eating normal meals :-/ is anyone else finding they want to eat odd things?

Littleen Thu 05-Dec-13 22:22:57

notone good you don't have shoes upstairs - I don't get the thing about shoes indoors everywhere!
thisis what a horrible midwife grin I've got tons of stretchmarks but it's not her place to comment on! Mind I have a scar from operation that now has morphed in to a harry potter scar O.o

tinypolkadot Thu 05-Dec-13 22:26:04

Wow thisis I can't believe it! What an invasion of privacy. I would have been too stunned to react as well.

Sprouts and mayonnaise unplastered?! I like mayonnaise on most things, but that might be a step too far grin I've just polished off tinned pears and chocolate ice cream, contemplating a second bowl.

gnittinggnome Thu 05-Dec-13 22:44:41

jazz not quite in Primark's league, but I got two of these from M&S, it was buy one get one half price, so around 18 for both. Very lightweight, buttons all the way down for ease of bf, not too pretty so I won't get upset if they get knackered and at least a size too big for me for comfort.

thisis wow, that's just plain rude. It's amazing how otherwise delicate flowers can be so darn insensitive!

unplastered In my bid for tasty food, with fibre to counteract my iron pills, I've given myself a two-day long bout of the squits. The very notion of sprouts, with anything, is utterly beyond me! I have been craving oranges though. And going through lots of dental floss as a result.

sunflowered Fri 06-Dec-13 04:23:42

thisis I'm shock . What is it about pregnancy that makes people think that sort of thing's ok?!

Hope everything goes smoothly with the house gnitting. I've got a friend whose baby sleeps best when very it's cold and wrapped in a thick snowsuit (pref outside) so the double glazing thing might be a blessing in disguise!

I've also picked up an m&s maternity nightie this week (staying with pil over new yr and don't think current approach of pants and dressing gown will go down too well blush ). it looks fine, apart from that it would also look fine on an 80 yo lady. Would it cost them that much more to add in a bit of style?! Saw the one you linked to gnitting but wasn't sure if it was a maternity one so went with granny chic to be safe.

Currently awake with killer heartburn. Wondering if it"s got to the point where I miggt as well just get up and get some work done so I can finish a bit earlier today sad Dh has manflu and is mouth breathing extremely loudly beside me. Have just had to remove him from my pillow and back onto his own side of the bed as bump was in danger of being pushed over the edge of the mattress and taking me with it. Hope I get a nice midwife for appt today or I might explode if she tells me I'm looking blooming with bags under my eyes, puffy skin, a distinct waddle, and a bump that's starting to take over the world

lastnightopenedmyeyes Fri 06-Dec-13 06:37:29

We live in an Edwardian house with original single glazed sash windows and original doors. It's absolutely fine grin

Littleen Fri 06-Dec-13 07:29:40

inc rant! So it's our 4th anniversary today and we're moving house later on. He's not actually packed anything whatsoever, apart from taking screws from drawers that needed to be done. So he starts the morning by letting me know that he should have gone to bed instead, as he was so tired, and now was tired in the morning. He had plenty of time to do it earlier in the day, and it's not fair that I have to ask other people to help me because he just doesn't! Gah. Need to talk to him, but I just don't think he will get it at all. He's got his priorities all messed up!

misskatamari Fri 06-Dec-13 08:59:27

Oh god Littleen I bet you want to punch him! I know how you feel - when DH and I moved in together I was all packed, went round to his flat and he had done bugger all and just faffed for hours putting wires in boxes whilst I sorted out most of the other bits. I think it's quite easy to not actually "see" all the things you have that you need to pack - that's me trying to be understanding of their ineptitude! I hope you manage to give him a kick up the arse and get moved okay. Get a nice take away for tea and hopefully put your feet up smile

Thisis - I can't believe how rude your MIL was! I don't know how you didn't bloody punch her! Unplastered - I think you win the prize for weirdest food combo thus far! grin

Wow I slept through last night (bar loo trips). Amazing! Still feeling tired but I think that's just a given now isn't it!

Hope you're all safe and sound where you are in the crazy horrid weather!

misskatamari Fri 06-Dec-13 09:06:17

Just had a look at m&s and they have 10% off women's nightwear and there are some brightly coloured maternity things so not too crazily granny hopefully. I think I need to get some maternity pj pants too as my giant primark ones are now very tight! m&s nightwear

misskatamari Fri 06-Dec-13 09:12:54

Oh my god I want to eat some mini sausage rolls too - the frozen ones you cook at home and have cold at a buffet!!! I'm not letting myself buy any as I would cook them all. Then eat them all! I think one of the main reasons I want a home birth is because I'm having fantasies of making said sausage rolls when I first notice labour is starting then I can have a nice buffet when I'm done. Lol!

Unplastered Fri 06-Dec-13 09:48:02

I wish my DH understood my need to buy things - I suggested to him today that I might go to Primark for big pants and new nighties, as it would be time to pack my hospital bag soon. His response - what's wrong with the pants you already have? (do I really have to justify buying new pants?!) and haven't I got enough nighties already, didn't I buy a load of new ones when I had DD. (er, yes - nearly 5 years ago!) I actually hate it when he's at home on call on my day off!

Littleen I hope the move goes well and your DH gets his bum in gear!

So far today sticking to a normal diet - porridge and tea for breakfast!

marzipanned Fri 06-Dec-13 10:08:10

Wow, what's wrong with the world these days?!

thisis unbelievable behaviour. I don't even know what to say - because I know in your shoes I would have been way too gobsmacked to say anything at all. Wow.

thingy well, if you are being hormonal, it's entirely reasonable. DH is away a fair bit for work and if he so much as broached the subject of being away for something fun at the moment I would completely bite his head off! And I don't even have little ones to look after.

littleen GAH I feel for you. My DH is also completely disorganised. In fact the last time we moved house I just sucked it up and did all the packing because I knew that would stress me out less than trying to get him involved.

We have single glazed windows and it's absolutely frigid in the house, BUT that's not because of the glazing, it's because it's a detached stone house in NE Scotland and when the owners decided to renovate it 5 years ago they didn't put any insulation in the walls. So I think you'll be fine gnitting grin

Well, back to three vomits this morning. I hope this doesn't mean I'm getting a final trimester uptick of gruesomeness.

notoneforselfies Fri 06-Dec-13 10:19:38

not a single one of those M&S maternity bras go up to my size. I'm big for me but I don't think I'm that unusually large for a preggo? I'm currently sitting very comfortably in an Anita nursing bra anyway - thoroughly recommend them for those well endowed as it also makes me look much smaller! I have tried a LOT of maternity/nursing bras and this is the winner. Marvellous.

notoneforselfies Fri 06-Dec-13 10:23:02

litleen - happy anniversary! I did all the packing when we moved. It took me about 6 weeks. DH chipped in on the day before by throwing everything into bin bags angry
I now have a new rule where I ask three times and then just do it myself (otherwise I get called a nag) and hope the ensuing guilt might help him move faster in future. Yesterday saw me balancing on a chair with a tube of polyfilla fixing the ceiling where the plaster had come away after a leak. He's yet to notice!

gnittinggnome Fri 06-Dec-13 10:34:42

littleen Congrats! and good luck with the move..... My DH is like misskat's in that he needs to sort out his cables properly first, but I think that's a techie thing. Deep breaths, and lots of chocolate. (and you'll be in before Christmas!)

jazzcat28 Fri 06-Dec-13 12:12:30

Good shout on the M&S nightwear misskat - I have the M&S floral maternity pj bottoms and they are very comfy on the bump. They are the only things I can wear to bed at the moment with one of DH's T-Shirts as a top. Have also got one of the maternity nightdresses coming my way for hospital bag.

littleen happy anniversary and moving day. I also have a DH who doesn't do anything unless I ask him (then moans that I'm nagging). From the routine (have you put the bins out it's Friday) to the one-off stuff like nursery prep. Not sure if it'll help you today but recently I was huffing and puffing my way to sorting out our spare room and ended up with a sore bump so did a dramatic yell for "help" which had him running and made me sit down for the rest of the day. Perhaps stage a hurty bump mid-way through moving day to give him a kick up the bum?

tinypolkadot Fri 06-Dec-13 12:20:42

I got one of these night dresses for after the birth, it's lovely and soft and a bit sparkly.


I also found a long button up pyjama top from Primani for £7 which I bought as well. I was expecting more from Primark, but all they seemed to have was onesies!!

littleen congrats on your anniversary! I hope the move goes well, remember to delegate all the heavy lifting to your other half

Friday at last, roll on 5.15 and I'm just about to go and post my secret santa. Ho ho ho fsmile

Somanychanges Fri 06-Dec-13 14:03:42

Sorry haven't read all of thread since last on. Ill save that for tonight if I have the energy.

I like that pink spotted nighty misskat

unplastered my DH is exactly the same. I have no hospital bag packed as I don't actually have anything to put in it. I keep saying to him I need to get XY&Z he will say the same "what's wrong with the PJ's you have" etc etc!

It's so bad I don't even have a winter jacket and I am starting to freeze. My old jacket is now completely too small and I must have got fatter elsewhere as the shoulders have become too tight and it's now ripped at the top of the sleeve. Even in this state my husband says "oh it will do, just wear a scarf and you can't really see the rip" em thanks but I would rather not freeze or look like a homeless person.

I have realised its no fun being a SAHM with a husband like mine. i need to be earning my own money. I am just going to have to make a list of everything I need so he has it there in front of him and then I will email him said list on pay day 10 times.

Unplastered Fri 06-Dec-13 14:42:47

Somany - glad I'm not the only one! I'm not a SAHM and I work pretty much full time. He's not protective Of money or anything, it's just that since he is quite happy to live in craghopper trousers and ancient shirts, he thinks I should be as well. And I'm not! I just took myself off shopping in the end and have come back with a couple of nighties, big pants, an some baby bits as well as a Moses basket stand on rockers. I think I've got pretty much very thing I need for me and the baby now, at least for the first couple of weeks, just a few sleepsuits to get. I will have to restrain myself from sale shopping when I've finished work in January!

misskatamari Fri 06-Dec-13 14:56:02

Awww glad you got some goodies Unplastered! I am rather loving the sexy belly hugger pants I got from primark lol! Just ordered the M&S nightie and some pj pants too yaaaaay.

Oooooh bargains of the day! I went in to home bargains and noticed they had a baby section and I got a 5 pack of muslins for about 3 quid and some packs of 2 fitted moses basket sheets for about the same. The sheets are nice and soft too (Jersey I believe it says). :D Super chuffed. Plus I got some bright dylon dyes so I can start dying my baby grows/muslins/anything else white and cotton pretty bright colours!

Ooooh more good news too - I spoke to the loss adjuster people and they have said they will replace the carpet and that we can either get them to do it or they will give us £846 to sort it ourselves! grin woo hoooooo!!! I'm hoping that is plenty of budget as I'm pretty sure buying this one cost about £900 with all the underlay and grippers and only a tiny bit of the underlay actually needs replacing. Part of me is tempted to wait until after the baby is born in case my homebirth gets "messy" but DH wants to get it sorted asap which I guess is more sensible! Now we just need to decide on colours and keeping fingers crossed we can get something good quality in budget!

Littleen - I hope the move is going well!

gnittinggnome Fri 06-Dec-13 15:36:37

somany speaking as a kept woman (I may be starting up a small craft business, but it's definitely taking some time to come together, and I haven't worked formally since I left the UK to live overseas with DH about 7 years ago) I would say get it sorted out now, rather than when you're knackered and drained with a new baby! Even if it's access to a joint account and a clear-cut budget for "baby" stuff, "you" stuff (to top up maternity pay), "house" stuff etc. If you need to pay it back into a joint account when you go back to work, go ahead, but having him be the purse-keeper is going to be hard when you're used to your own cash. I'm guessing SMP isn't going to cut it 100%? I hope you can get it sorted out properly, as nothing works best to undermine a relationship than tension about money.

(ps, my New Look maternity coat was around 40 quid, is actually very comfy, warm and whilst it's not my regular style, I'll take being warm and cosy over belly poking through my old winter coats any day.)

marzipanned Fri 06-Dec-13 15:47:25

I'm another mostly kept woman and we're the opposite way round. DH is always trying to buy me stuff and I'm the one who says I don't need it (and gets annoyed when he buys himself the billionth identical polo shirt). That said he is a bit of a spendthrift.
Although I have now bought nearly everything the baby needs, we were watching some baby documentary together and he was like "have we got one of those? We need one of those! And one of those!" about EVERYTHING.

winterflowers Fri 06-Dec-13 16:13:46

Yey gnitting that's amazing! Proper made up for you.

petty am sure that you would have had some funny looks if had been in work. Fx it was just an evening thing. I haven't had any leakage or anything to date that I've noticed, another joy to come!

winterflowers Fri 06-Dec-13 18:27:45

Wow don't know why it reposted my msg from yesterday my phone must be having a meltdown. A slightly more appropriate msg for today would be as follows...

Congrats on the anniversary littleen! Hope your DP sorts himself out so you can move ok. Lovely you'll be in the new place for Christmas.

Also great news for the carpet Misskat am glad things are getting sorted for you. And that you can get something lovely in place.

Thanks for all the nightdress links, some nice.ones on there as well as the obligatory granny ones!

Is anyone else having problems sitting up but a but slouchy. I think my bump is finally starting to get in the way and it's starting to make sitting at my comp at work all day get super awkward and uncomfortable. Any ways around it wouls be awesome...

winterflowers Fri 06-Dec-13 18:28:52

Ih and thisis I am still in shock about the stretch marks top lifting incident!

Sassy20 Fri 06-Dec-13 23:08:38

Ugggh think I may have mild food poisoning confused After dinner started feeling sick and then stomach and back felt tight and painful then was getting stomach pains. Was really starting to panic but now been violently sick and feel a lot better for it. Dh informed me that he hadn't wanted to mention it but he ate a mouthful of my leftover pasta with pesto and spat it out as tasted off!!! I didn't even think pesto could go off. I'm hoping that one lot of vomiting has been enough to get rid of it and that now I'll be able to get some sleep. hmm

Champagnebubble Fri 06-Dec-13 23:13:21

Poor you Sassy. It could be a bug, there is so much going round at the moment. I didn't think you could get food poisoning from basil/oil/parmesan....but I guess you could? Get better soon thanks

EeyoreIsh Sat 07-Dec-13 06:20:02

Oh dear sassy, I hope you're not too ill. It could be the pine nuts, they can harbour salmonella and/or be toxic. Get better soon thanks

SugarMiceInTheRain Sat 07-Dec-13 06:21:22

Morning preggos! I say morning, it feels like the middle of the night as I went to bed at 11.30, dozed fitfully and have been awake since 2.30am. My throat kills, I am full of cold and short of breath as if someone is sitting on my chest. I am at my mum's and in a couple of hours have to be up and get 2 trains and a coach, then work til 10pm! Waaaah. Just wish I could phone in sick but if I do my boss may insist I start my maternity leave...

Sorry for the self pitying post. Feeling kind of crappy.

Sassy20 Sat 07-Dec-13 06:26:17

Thanks Champagne. I did wonder if it was a bug but had just the one bout of vomiting (touch wood) and would have expected more if it was a bug.

I did eat a sausage earlier in the day - maybe it was that!

Sassy20 Sat 07-Dec-13 06:26:40

Hope you're feeling better soon Sugarmice x

Sassy20 Sat 07-Dec-13 06:27:52

Sugarmice - I think it's only if it's more long term sickness that they can make you take mat leave early so I wouldn't worry about that. X

EeyoreIsh Sat 07-Dec-13 07:01:14

sassy, glad you're feeling better. sugar, I hope you get better soon.

Awake really early again. Wolfed down a bowl of porridge and still hungry!

Day 2 of NCT today. Day 1 went ok, after a mini freak out at seeing the picture (not even a photo!) of the baby/womb at term. It's slowly dawning on me that this baby has to come out somehow!

SugarMiceInTheRain Sat 07-Dec-13 07:30:45

Thanks Sassy, in that case I may have to call in sick, I imagine I will barely even be able to function by the time I get home.

SugarMiceInTheRain Sat 07-Dec-13 07:32:25

Hope you're feeling better soon too Sassy.

misskatamari Sat 07-Dec-13 08:17:41

Sassy I hope you're feeling better now and that it was just a one off. Sugar - hope you manage to call in sick and have a day resting!

First NCT day for us Eeyore (2nd tomorrow so DH is not looking forward to this weekend!). I hope it's good and that the people are nice. Don't know how much baby stuff they can talk about that it takes alllllll day but I'm sure we'll learn loads. Hoping it finishes a bit early as I want to go and look at carpets and also saw a vax carpet cleaner in b+m yesterday for about 60 quid which is half price and I stupidly didn't buy it. I may be getting a bit obsessed with having clean carpets now! grin

Hope you all have lovely Saturdays planned x

sunflowered Sat 07-Dec-13 08:41:58

Sassy and sugarmice hope you're both ok this morning.

In a break from house renovation and yet more work, today I'm going to see Jude Law at the theatre grin As a friend scarily pointed out yesterday, I'm not going to be able to do that again for quite a while without a babysitter and an awful lot of faff.

sunflowered Sat 07-Dec-13 08:44:30

Argh posted too soon... Meant to add that that was another 'aaaaargh having a real baby' moment yesterday.

Hope you all have good weekends coming up smile

winterflowers Sat 07-Dec-13 09:38:02

Enjoy the nct classed those who have them! I don't start mine till the new year, but then they are twice a week for a while. Ending at half nine how on earth will I still be awake enough to concentrate? !?

Hope you feel better soon sassy and sugar. &sugar* I had an abysmal cold for a while and finally cracked so got antibiotics from the dr. Still took a while.to clear but would recommend doing if you keep feeling bad, our immune systems are a bit pants these days so harder to shift things.

Am going to buy a new laptop today woohoo and not think abiut the miions or baby stuff I need im screwed if she comes early

Sassy20 Sat 07-Dec-13 09:40:34

Thanks everyone. Feeling less sick today but headachey and tired. Luckily I'm heading to my parents as dh working so they'll be able to look after dd while I head to bed for a bit. Nothing better than being looked after by parents when you're not well. Hope everyone else ok. X

jazzcat28 Sat 07-Dec-13 12:06:52

Oooh jealous of the NCT classes this weekend. Ours don't start until January. Let us know how it goes!

Had a minor panic today as have numbness in my left hand and slight swelling in my right hand. Text my friend who is a nurse and had swelling in her last pregnancy who reckons it's nothing to worry about but of course Dr Google had me convinced otherwise! Legs and ankles all normal it's just the hands so think it might be carpal tunnel again (though I usually only get that in bed).

After not really feeling much in the way of movements, am now feeling all sorts! It's lovely but annoying during the 3-6am window when apparently it's THE time for a party in womb-land. Think I could work out two bulges which must be bum and head but confused about position - larger bulge (head?) was bottom left quarter of bump, smaller bulge (bum?) was at the top under my ribs and kicks/wiggles were felt around fanjo area. So perhaps it's trying to manouver into head down position but lying across me somehow? Can only make all this out after about 10 mins of lying on my back though, no idea when I'm sat on sofa/walking around.

Hope everyone is having lovely weekends so far

30wks tomorrow for me! fgrin

CubanoHabana Sat 07-Dec-13 17:06:04

Jazz I am the same with movement, since yesterday baby has been going mad in there! I'm 29 weeks tomorrow.

Had whopping cough jab today, didn't hurray all but I've spent most of the day asleep! To be fair, we had works Christmas night out last night and I think I was just exhausted from that... Although I got told several times that I was glowing last night, which was a nice change from being told I look exhausted!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 07-Dec-13 17:20:49

We had a nice day planned but got within 5 mins of destination and poor little DS threw up all over himself so we had to come home quickly and clean everything thoroughly. Taking a car seat covered in sick apart is not fun.

He's been okay since so really hoping it was a freak one off. He's not a sicky child so it was a bit of a surprise!! Really hoping we haven't got a sick bug in the house!!

misskatamari Sat 07-Dec-13 18:43:25

Sassy I hope you're feeling better after some rest at your parents. I hope ds is okay too Lastnight!

Our nct class was really good. Everyone seemed really friendly as down to earth and we learnt about lots of things. None of which I can remember now as I think my brain is overloaded! Another one tomorrow so it's quite a full on weekend. We did manage to leg it to carpet right afterwards and sort out measuring up on Monday with the hopes of getting a carpet fitted before Christmas. I think the bump helped smile

32 weeks today - eeeeek it's starting to feel quite real!

sunflowered Sat 07-Dec-13 19:33:43

Glad the class went well misskat - you've just prompted me to try to take a notebook when our classes start in the new year! (need to add that to my list of reminders, brain is like a sieve these days...) And well done on the new carpet - there has to be a small consolation prize for all the stress your house has put you through in the last few weeks smile

Mentioned to a lady in a shop today that I'm going on mat leave in 6 weeks. She raised her eyebrows and said I didn't look pregnant... (see bump pics for proof that I'm already the size of a small house!!) And there I was thinking I didn't need to fish out the baby on board badge today. Bumps are funny things - I thought it would be so obvious to everyone from about 12 weeks!

EeyoreIsh Sat 07-Dec-13 21:05:54

missk are you my double one day ahead?! We have nct tmw, then carpet right and I'm 32 weeks tmw!

my nct class has been good. Lots of emphasis on the making friends bit, which is a bit forced. It's been really good to think lots of things through. Today we were practising labour positions, which was quite amusing, and quite weird. funny to think we'll be needing this knowledge soon! The thing I've found a bit frustrating is the whilst the trainer is good, she just doesn't have the knowledge of a midwife. So I've got lots of extra questions now. I'd recommend to others talking a notebook, as missk said, there's lots to take on board.

We've got a 3 hour breast feeding workshop tomorrow. I'm not sure what we'll talk about for 3 hours!

misskatamari Sat 07-Dec-13 21:20:03

Lol Eeyore that is weird! grin Our breast feeding one is in Monday night and I don't know how there can be so much to cover about breast feeding either. Apparently there will be dolls shock! They've told us they don't cover bottle or mixed feeding at it either but our nct lady said she'd do that with us tomorrow.

Oooh we got to have a go with a tens machine today - was so weird. Has anyone who's already had babies used one in labour? Considering buying/hiring one and it would be good to know if people have found them useful.

We get to change nappies tomorrow too woo hoo! smile

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 07-Dec-13 21:32:48

Yes misskat I used tens with DS labour and will definitely be hiring one again (tesco do them) this time. It made a HUGE difference to me. I just had the tens machine and gas and air.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 07-Dec-13 21:33:19

Meant to add, it feels weird when you're not in pain but when you are it really takes the edge off.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 07-Dec-13 21:34:49

Eeyoreish I went on a weekend breast feeding workshop when gp with DS. One if the best things I did to prepare for DS, even better than one to one hypnobirthing course.

There is so much to talk about, 3 hours will whizz by grin

misskatamari Sat 07-Dec-13 21:40:19

Thanks Lastnight smile I think I will definitely try and get hold of one then. It did feel quite weird - we tried them in our arms - but I can imagine it helping when on your back in labour.

notoneforselfies Sat 07-Dec-13 21:47:14

What does the tens machine do/feel like?

EeyoreIsh Sat 07-Dec-13 21:54:59

I think I'm just a bit nervous about breastfeeding, so I think I might feel more pressure after 3 hours discussing it. I really want to breastfeed but I think I've heard too many horror stories! Hopefully the session tomorrow will be really positive.

I've got a tens machine that I've used before for sciatica and period pain. I found it really works for period pain, so I'm hoping it does in labour too.

I went out tonight, first time in ages! Was home by 9 but it was still lovely to be in a pub with friends.

EeyoreIsh Sat 07-Dec-13 21:56:30

notone it feels like strong tingles. The idea is that it blocks the pain signals. The lady today said not everyone would find it works, but some do.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sun 08-Dec-13 06:59:38

Eeyoreish - if the course is done properly there shouldn't be any pressure at all and you should come out feeling reassured and motivated smile

Re tens, if you use it when not in pain it feels like strong tingling but when in pain it's hard to describe - it just takes the edge off somehow.....

jazzcat28 Sun 08-Dec-13 08:28:17

I have been fortunate enough to be loaned a TENS machine from friends - it's quite sweet actually, they were the first couple in our gang of friends to have a baby so bought the machine. Since then it has been loaned around the gang and once I've used it, it will have helped 7 labours. Haven't given it a go yet though, saving that joy for mat leave!

misskat glad yesterday's class went well, hope today's is just as useful.

We are putting our Christmas tree up today - yay!

LovesToBake Sun 08-Dec-13 10:18:22

I've got horribly behind on the thread as had the in laws staying for the weekend - they're off home after lunch so planning a lazy afternoon which will involve much catching up on MN news!

I went to my first pregnancy yoga class yesterday morning and loved it, came away feeling very relaxed and a little lighter in some way. The baby is kicking/wriggling/squirming more than ever at the moment which is obviously reassuring but she is seriously strong and I'm often finding the movements at bedtime or first thing in the morning take my breath away - sort of looking forward to the point where she gets too squashed for big movements now, just hope when it gets to that point she's head down!

Hope everyone who is at NCT classes today has a good time and learns lots!

CubanoHabana Sun 08-Dec-13 11:02:54

So annoyed at hubby! So yesterday was exhausted and slept a lot of the day and he called be snappy the crocodile and wouldn't do anything I asked him to do, then today he knew we had health visitor coming over (although I got the time wrong, thinking it was 3 and not 10), so had asked him to help tidy - in particular do the bins and the hoovering... Needless to say he didn't do it yesterday and wouldn't get up today. She then turned up at 10, so cat fur EVERYWHERE as it hadn't been hoovered, I just felt like a right slob! THEN I decided to puttdhe vinyl sticker up in the nursery, as we got 2 weeks ago and he has made no effort to do it. So got half way though and he decided to get up and then has a go at me for doing it! He said we should have done it together as it's for the baby... Grr! So I ask him to help me finish putting it up and he refuses! Double grr!

Anywho, I think it looks fab and will upload pic once I have the shelves up (although given that he is doing that, who knows when it will be ready!).

On top of that, the health visitor's visit was completely pointless , wanted to know if I had done any classes / had any questions and that was it... Just felt like it was to get another sneak peek at the house - and I failed because it was furry and the dishes were piled up waiting to go in the dishwasher :-(

tinypolkadot Sun 08-Dec-13 12:34:15

Ah cubano sounds like you had a tough day yesterday. Im sure the health visitor will have seen past the dishes and cat hair, try not to worry, I think they're looking for other things like crumbing walls, feral children etc! I know how you feel though, I hate it if people come over and I'm not properly prepared.

I also put some stickers up in the nursery without dh! He hasn't seen it yet, hope he doesn't mind, but sometimes things just need to be done. I get sick of waiting for the weekends to get stuff done, and he was working all day yesterday until 6.30am so is still in bed. Obvs not much is going to be done today either.

I've had a couple of weird clicky noises which I'm sure are from my bump. Anyone else??

LovesToBake Sun 08-Dec-13 13:06:42

Cubano that sounds like a crappy day, hope your DH realises the errors of his ways soon. I've not heard of a health visitor coming round pre-baby, is that the norm in your area and do others have the same? I've only had a health visitor come to the house once and that was when DS was small to do the hearing check and make me fill in a questionnaire that I think was to ascertain whether I was emotionally stable post-birth.

Those of you who have done wall stickers for the nursery, tell me more. Where is a good place to get them? I'd like to investigate for the nursery (currently DS' room) and also for the spare room which is soon to become DS' room...

After a busy weekend with the ILs staying, they have just departed, DS is upstairs having a nap, DH is out on a bike ride and I'm on the sofa with MN and the papers. Bliss!

CubanoHabana Sun 08-Dec-13 13:44:22

llovesto the stickers I got are from mamas and papas! currently reduced to £14 from £20. They on,y have a limited selection though. Really easy to put on and can be moved.

This is the second time hv has been out, first time to tell me about classes and introduce herself. Apparently it's the norm in Durham, but I had thought it was only after birth too.

LovesToBake Sun 08-Dec-13 14:31:36

Thanks for the wall stickers tip Cubano. Our spare room has lining paper on the walls (painted) so have you got any idea if they would work ok (and be ok to be moved if required) or are they supposed to just go onto straight plaster/paint covered walls?

LittlePandaBear Sun 08-Dec-13 15:52:34

Trying to catch up on the thread - seems like lots of house stuff, nesting, NCT classes etc. Exciting and hopefully not too stressful for those involved!

I had a meal out last night with my childminder and the other mums - I just felt rather boring and sober as everyone else got more merry, and when they went to another bar for dancing I just had to go home. I was home about midnight so surely that's late enough? I have a work do on Friday and I'm worried about how sober I will feel then too. I don't really mind not drinking in general, it's just Xmas parties that seems to require lots of alcohol!

I need to do some more nesting and sort out the babys room. Still not sure if we're going to paint it, get a decorator in, or just leave it. I'm trying to wait until the sales before I start buying things for him - I have the main big things from DD anyway but still want some boyish clothes, blankets etc and need bottles, boob pads, nappies etc!

Only 12 more days at work, which is 4 weeks as I'm 3 days a week. 2 before Xmas and 2 after. So excited to start maternity leave!

Also need to finish Xmas shopping. Why is there so much to do all the time?

EeyoreIsh Sun 08-Dec-13 16:29:25

Today's nct breastfeeding class was really good, there was lots to cover in 3 hours after all! I learnt so much.

It's been a bit of a packed day, we went onto the allotment and then I did some gardening, just put a soup on and finally sat down with a cuppa. I can't rest for long though as I have curtains to make... my work is never done grin I can hear DH banging and crashing upstairs, not sure what he's doing but I'm staying well out of the way! His swearing is quite inventive!

I really like wall stickers too. We found some at John Lewis we might get. I hope they peel off ok as we've just had the walls replastered.

marzipanned Sun 08-Dec-13 18:45:16

NCT AND ILs this weekend! Busy one.

NCT was good. I didn't learn much - except some more about pain relief - but there were several lovely couples we could see ourselves being friends with. It didn't feel forced, mainly because this is such a small town that nearly everyone in the group was either a friend of someone else's friend or worked in the same/next door building to someone else...

I tried out the tens machine and hated the feeling, but good to know that it's not like that and helps when in pain!

Feeling more torn than ever between the hospital and the countryside midwife unit, have some serious thinking to do.

LittlePanda I think midnight is quite impressive, we had a big family dinner, so not even night out, on Saturday, and I was dead by 10pm.

Hope all those suffering from bugs, food poisoning, etc are feeling better. DH seems to be coming down with flu so I'm feeling mightily relieved I had the jab. It's quite nice looking after him rather than the other way round for a change!!

bugsyburge Sun 08-Dec-13 19:47:53

evening all, I hope everyone has had a nice weekend & those of you with NCT have enjoyed it?

not had chance to catch up on the weekend activities yet, going to sit down with a cup of tea and have a catch up grin

thank you for all your work advice last week- I've decided to grin and bare it to get the extra months wage & present my case to the MD.

on a competely unrelated note, have any of you noticed that you've been feeling anxious during your pregnancy? I'm never had anxiety before but I've found myself getting worked up over various different things whilst I've been pregnant.... normally revolving around something serious happening to someone close to me...particularly my husband or my parents

I'm trying to rationalise it to myself that it's my minds way of coping with the massive change thats coming into my life.....

who knows!!!!!

rueyrichardson Sun 08-Dec-13 20:26:03

Ruey checking in at 31 weeks. Back from a family party, which normally involves at least half a bottle of wine being put away by me over the course of the afternoon. Whoever said that Xmas parties need booze was right. Not that we didn't have a lovely time but it was less.....jolly......without a snifter. I am pacing myself on the wine front, I've had a couple of small glasses a week in general throughout the pregnancy. But the food is a bit richer and boozier at this time of year so I don't want to overdo it.....having said that have promised myself a glass of fizz on Xmas day. And am hallucinating about it.

Sorry to hear of stresses and poorliness. Especially if you don't feel like you are getting the medical attention you need - that is really crap. I have no complaints (touch wood) other than a particularly wriggly DC in utero, and being so busy that I can barely keep up. But by 9pm most evenings I am unable to function, slightly dreading the parties that end late. If I haven't had dinner by then then I don't bother and take my vits before passing out. Having said that, iron supplements have really improved the fatigue. I definitely feel healthier this time than I did last. I get a scan on NYE to check placenta and size so am looking forward to that.

Take care all, hope you are cozied up in front of the telly with chocolate smile

barebranches Sun 08-Dec-13 20:57:32

feeling jealous of all the nct chat... half wish i had booked it now... twas a lot of pennies though.
i cant believe only 9 weeks to go...! still have my horrid cough and related wee problem but i used all my free samples if Tena. No way am i buying any in sains. sad
9 days of work tillchristmas then 10 days after means 19 more days at work till maternity leave!!! smile (still no cover...but trying to not think about that)

misskatamari Sun 08-Dec-13 21:26:24

Cubano - I hope DH got out if his grump and didn't inspire any more Preggo annoyance! Bugsy - I haven't found myself too anxious in pregnancy but have definitely suffered in the past with what you've described. I had anxiety years ago which was caused by the pill and then a flare up when we had a stressful house move and I would irrationally worry loads about something happening to DH etc. Its a horrid feeling as you know it's irrational but knowing that doesn't stop it. I find rescue remedy is really really good for when I do feel anxious, and also found acupuncture really good for helping balance out hormones. Also taking a good b vitamin (or good Preggo multivitami)n will probably help if you're not taking one. I think it is totally natural to feel anxious etc as our hormones are all over the place and it's a massive life change!

Phew bloody knackered after second nct day today. It's been good tho and I feel like I've learnt a lot more about how to actually look after a baby! Breast feeding tomorrow night. I feel so sorry for DH - he's been working crazy hours recently so is knackered anyway and has had no rest this weekend, and is in work again tomorrow then straight out for a 2 1/2 hour class. I must try and be extra nice and not a moany old bag this week!

misskatamari Sun 08-Dec-13 21:31:20

Oh my god I just had a quick look at the December thread and they're all having babies and contacting and dilating! That is gonna be us in 2 months!!!! Eeeeeeek!!!!

Shropshiremummy2B Sun 08-Dec-13 21:38:32

Hola! 32+1 today and starting to feel pregnant! Yay! Grunting at everything I do.

Another busy weekend here. DH's Christmas work party which was a real experience, like something off the telly. A room full of TOWIE wannabe's, tits and tattoos. He's new to the company and as he only really interacts with directors knows very few people. He tried to tell the wife of one of said directors I was pregnant by telling her I had 'tummy issues'! She looked at me sympathetically. It was too loud to inform her that I was pregnant so she now thinks I was driving because I needed a massive shit. Nice.

Started my morning by going to grandmas house to see if I wanted anything, I felt really bad that the only thing I wanted was her new washing machine...! I think I inherited my no junk policy from her as the majority of her cupboards were bare. I also took a pack of incontinance pads to use as maternity pads..... Thanks grandma!!

Then I went to the Trafford Centre which was heaving. Planned to do some Christmas shopping but came away with some cuuuuttte stuff from baby Gap as everything was half price and some grey and white bedding from John Lewis. Please do let me know if anyone sees any nice grey and white bits for my nursery, I'm struggling. Oh and got my christmas tree. Yay.

Does anyone have an opinion on this..... I'm tempted ...... m.johnlewis.com/mt/www.johnlewis.com/sleepyhead-deluxe-bed-guard-white/p231482924?un_jtt_v_pdp=yes&un_jtt_v_from_product=un_product_3

gnittinggnome Sun 08-Dec-13 22:17:00

oh no*shrops*! What a misunderstanding.... I think half of those guests were taking the train from Peterborough to London this morning - a dozen or so insanely heavily made-up young ladies marching up and down the train "looking for seats"...

I saw the Sleepyhead, and really liked the look of it - I want one! - but not sure it's 100% ideal for little one's back. Or how you'd work it with bedding. But it looks so darm comfy!

Survived our last weekend away this season. Not travelling anywhere else till Bean gets here - 7 weeks and counting. Bloody hell.

EeyoreIsh Sun 08-Dec-13 22:19:14

I've just spent lots on mothercare online-they've got a 3 for 2 on bedding and bath stuff, which was great. Now I just need muslins and more clothes and I'm sorted. The poor baby has everything in white or cream so I can bleach it!

shrops, I saw these gorgeous muslins at John Lewis, to continue your grey theme...

missk, I'm shattered too after nct! so much to take in.

I've felt a bit 'off' all day. A headache, sore ribs and right side and generally weird. I'd love a day off work but I've got to do a 6 hour round trip to spend the day talking IT. Only 10 days of work left though....

bugsy I've felt a bit anxious this pregnancy a bit as well. I'm always a bit risk adverse, but I've been far more so. I was hoping to have acupuncture when I start maternity leave, if I can justify the cost. It helped me to get pregnant so I'm going it'll help me through the last month.

Champagnebubble Sun 08-Dec-13 22:46:25

Haven't managed to catch up on the full thread yet blush

Jealous of all the nct classes too, ours starts in January, seems a long way away! We have the birthing centre tour in a few weeks though. Not long left until mat leave now, can't wait! Hope all had a good weekend, ours was quite busy, but need to actually start my Christmas shopping this week! Eek!

LovesToBake Mon 09-Dec-13 13:34:10

Quiet in here today! I'm at work (after puking this morning then sitting on the floor of the train for my 40 min journey into London as there were no seats and clearly nobody interested in offering me theirs...) and bored stiff! I finish next Thursday and I honestly may as well just walk out today and not come back because I have nothing to do, am being gradually kept out of meetings (not that I mind - it makes perfect sense as I won't be around to follow stuff through) and am just fannying around on Facebook, Mumsnet, doing my Ocado shop (which was all super easy seeing as I was the only one in the office from 8-10am!) but now just getting resentful and wishing I was chilling at home. Must stay patient!

Sassy20 Mon 09-Dec-13 14:06:18

Lovestobake - sounds like an awful start to the morning. I can't believe people let you sit on the floor and didn't offer you a seat - I think I'd lose it in that situation! X

marzipanned Mon 09-Dec-13 16:38:44

Argh Loves that sounds hideous. Can you squeeze in a couple more WFH days between now and next Thurs? If not, I really hope you don't have another commute that hideous. I wonder if your boss would let you come in for 10am or something so the trains aren't so busy?

jazzcat28 Mon 09-Dec-13 18:49:04

Sympathies to lovestobake for that horrid commute! Can't believe people don't give up their seats for you.

Found out today my boss has nominated me for a special recognition/leadership development programme at work - he said it didn't matter I will be on ML soon, I need to be recognised and developed and why shouldn't that be planned now for when I come back. Very pleased and touched he thought of me as would have been easy to be overlooked. Fingers crossed they remember who I am when I return in 2015!

NHS breast feeding class tomorrow morning for 2hrs, interested to see how it will compare with my nct one which is mid Jan.

Julietee Mon 09-Dec-13 21:30:36

Still here, just lurking and a bit down.

EeyoreIsh Mon 09-Dec-13 22:02:12

Sorry to hear you're down julietee sad hope everything is ok.

misskatamari Mon 09-Dec-13 23:03:48

Awww jazz that's awesome! Congratulations grin

Sorry you're feeling down Julietee - I hope you're okay. Make sure to look after yourself and get lots of rest.

We've just had our nct breast feeding class. It was useful and I feel a bit more confident about knowing what to do now. Apparently cabbage leaves on the boobs helps mastitis too! You learn something new everyday! Hope you all sleep well and that there are some more pleasant commutes tomorrow!

SugarMiceInTheRain Tue 10-Dec-13 04:54:33

Jealous of all the NCT classes here too. I know as I'm on #3 I probably don't need to go to antenatal classes but they are a great way to meet others at a similar stage to you. smile

Feeling absolutely rough. Thought I was on the mend but am having another sleepless night, nose alternately blocked/ running, sinuses hurt, head hurts, ear hurts. Got a busy day coming up today - dentist appointments for whole family, teaching, DS2's nativity, but could only get 2 tickets for it so don't know what to do with DS1 - argh! Maybe I will just send DH with DS1 for the latter and see if I feel better by Wednesday afternoon for that performance (which will hopefully be less busy).

Urgh, so sick of not being able to take anything to make myself feel better. My skin is all sore and chapped from blowing my nose so much and I just want to sleep but can't! sad Sorry for another self-pitying rant. I really dislike pregnancy...

Julietee Tue 10-Dec-13 07:39:21

Thanks, Eeyore and Misskat smile

EeyoreIsh Tue 10-Dec-13 07:42:09

Gah, I feel and look awful this morning. After yesterday's long train journey I arrived home late and shattered, and promptly burst into irrational tears! I'm really shattered and can't see how I'm going to get through the last few weeks at work, which is pathetic considering I only have 9 days left. I couldn't sleep because I worked myself up into such a state!

Oh well, at least I'm wfh today, although we've got the plasterers in. They drilled through a pipe yesterdayshock luckily it wasn't an electric cable! I hope they don't do anything as silly today....

Hope everyone else is coping a bit better!

Thisisfreakingmeout Tue 10-Dec-13 07:48:23

Well done Jazz.
Hope you feel better Julie, eeyore and anyone further up thread hav

Thisisfreakingmeout Tue 10-Dec-13 07:53:34

*having a tough time.

I still have 18 office days to go and finding it hard to care but if you have Can't Be Arsed day in my place you are the one who suffers tomorrow. So I am trying to keep the CBAs at bay for now.

Had a lovely 32 week app. Bloods and heartbeat all fine. MW had no clue which was baby's head and which was its bum! She didn't really care at this point so the mystery continues.

SugarMiceInTheRain Tue 10-Dec-13 08:34:00

Eeyore and Julietee sorry you're having a rough time of it. I'm counting down my working days now. Even finding it hard to motivate myself to do the teaching I do from home, but absolutely can't afford to stop that.

marzipanned Tue 10-Dec-13 09:20:31

Sorry to hear of people feeling down. It seems like a tough time of year, trying to get lots done and with all these bugs going around and not much light during the day.

I've got the lurgy too, got through an entire box of tissues yesterday! Bit of an uptick in nausea and vomiting as well but maybe that's because I'm on the home stretch and hormones are changing again.

Eeyore oh dear!! Hope you manage a nap at some point today even with the plasterers around.

Jazz that's lovely news about your work, well done.

I've got 32 wk appointment today and taking The Boss to the vet for his jabs this morning. Dreading that. Last time he was put in his cage he crapped everywhere.

8 weeks to go! My cousin's waters broke this morning. I am envy, want it to be late January now... (and have dissertation finished, new car bought, etc etc...)

Julietee Tue 10-Dec-13 11:08:46

Does anyone else's bump seem to change firmness very often?
Recently mine feels like a puffed up balloon a lot of the time, then suddenly it's squishier at the top. I don't know whether it's bloating or possible BH, but it stayed firm all night last night, which seems to point away from BH?
Either way, very annoying new symptom! And if it's firm I feel weirdly out of breath when I try to go walking sad

LovesToBake Tue 10-Dec-13 11:35:46

Julietee mine does and I think it's all to do with the positioning of the baby. As they get bigger and have less space to move around in there, you're more likely to have prolonged periods of hard patches within the bump where their head/bottom is lying I find.

jazzcat28 Tue 10-Dec-13 13:31:13

Eeyore I hope you are making the most of your wfh day and sitting in your pjs with chocolate and cake within arms reach - sounds like you need a bit of an R&R day to me!

I am home from the NHS bf class this morning. It has hit me. I AM HAVING A BABY. Facts and figures given out included how often they feed (8 times in 24hrs whether bf or bottle), how long it might feed at the breast for (up to 45 mins), that you need to express or feed every three hours (incl. through the night) to stimulate sufficient milk production, etc etc. We learnt different positions for optimum bf using dolls and I just sat there thinking "oh dear god, this is gonna be real in about 7-9 weeks".

I have to say that I am still on the fence about bf. I am scared that I won't succeed. I am worried that I will find it hard to feed when in company of friends and family (as family have already raised eyebrows and muttered 'hippy' when I mentioned I was considering bf). I am scared of it hurting/getting mastitis and sore nipples. I am worried that I won't cope with the feeding through the night. I have always needed my sleep and my action plan was for DH to do feeds until midnight then I take over but if I have to keep expressing/feeding every 3hrs to keep the milk going when then hell am I going to sleep? I don't have any positive bf role models in the family as every woman (including both of our mums) used bottles and are quite defensive about their choice. The only people I do know who've bf are friends.

Sorry for the long confusing waffle. I guess I'm just a little confused and scared about it all and know that in the fuzzy first few days of no sleep and lack of confidence I am likely to switch to bottles. I know this isn't the end of the world but I already feel like a failure.

We have 2 NCT breastfeeding sessions in January so perhaps I'll feel more informed/less worried after those.

<off to have a mince pie to cheer self up>

Julietee Tue 10-Dec-13 13:50:29

Lovestobake Yeah, I did wonder if it was that. Except his head feels harder and seems to be lower down (I haven't felt any rib incursions yet, but I'm 5"8), whereas this is medium hard and bloaty all over.

EeyoreIsh Tue 10-Dec-13 14:21:17

Baby did lots of jiggling this morning and now I can't lean forward at all! I think it's sitting right under my ribs!

julietee, my bump does that too. Sometimes it's really obvious that it's a shoulder/back/bum and other times it just feels randomly tight.

misskatamari Tue 10-Dec-13 14:21:53

Julie - my bump does that too and often goes hard at the top in the afternoon/evenings.

Jazz - try not to worry about breast feeding. I know people say it can be tricky at first but there is loads of support out there to help you (you should get a list of loads of contacts at your nct classes). Most areas have groups of women who meet up for coffee etc at a breast feeding friendly cafe and it can apparently be great to help feel more confident about it.

At the nct class last night the counsellor showed us the more normal positions to try and also showed us ones which basically involve you tilting back a bit and putting baby on you so it works with you to find the right position. Seemed like quite an easy way to try to get the baby latched on.

If you want to breast feed there are loads of benefits to you and baby, even if you can only do it for a short time so try not to let others put you off. On the other hand though, you will find what works for your family and if it isn't breast feeding try not to feel guilty. I know none of us can predict how we will find it - so try to learn as much about it as you can and don't be afraid to ask for the support if you are struggling at first.

I've been reading "the food of love" which my friend recommended after she really struggled with breast feeding.

notoneforselfies Tue 10-Dec-13 14:24:40

Jazzcat - when they gave you those figures, did they say that was an average and not at all set in stone? This is my DC1 so I'm no pro obviously, but I know that those figures can wildly differ from baby to baby! Eg one friend's DS always fed (or latched at least) for 2 hours at a time. Some only 20 mins. This time can vary throughout the day. Some babies will feed a lot more frequently than 8 times, some a bit less depending on how efficient they are at feeding etc...also they generally need a bit less if bottle as bottle milk is more 'filling'. And it can change from day to day! Did they really say you had to pump or feed every three hours? I hate to call bullshit but none of my breastfeeding friends have had to wake themselves up through the night to pump just to keep production going and have actively avoided pumping as it can have a harmful impact on your supply? (Make you produce more than your baby is actually requiring unnecessarily) It's certainly not for everyone from what I can tell anyway...

Basically I think it's worth doing a bit of reading around rather than taking one person's what sounds like slightly dubious teachings as gospel (not that I'm suggesting you are!) and also have a few different lactation consultants numbers to hand and support in place if you choose to bf. Certainly hold fire on deciding anything or worrying about 'failing' until you've had the NCT bf classes in Jan for comparison at least. I hope they'll have a slightly different message. Mastitis and sore nips happen, but they are not inevitable and they are both temporary and cope able, especially after the experience of pregnancy and childbirth, which I think sets a new bar for tolerance to pain and discomfort! And you can cross the bridge of dealing with them if or when they occur.

Mostly though, I think; don't be swayed by other peoples choices or feel pressured into doing one method over another. Actually calling you a hippy seems a bit much! shock What suited them, suited them, and that's great but you'll have to wait and see what suits you, without any external
pressure (or indeed heaping pressure on yourself) and that's got sod all to do with them! They'd do better to support you whatever you choose. And if you change your mind after deciding a course of action then that doesn't make you a failure.

gnittinggnome Tue 10-Dec-13 15:15:29

jazz try not to sweat it re bf - if you take nothing at all from Mumsnet, just remember that for every goady thread saying one way of feeding is better than another, there are thousands of comments from women who have had babies, or not, supporting a mum's choice to do either. The baby needs feeding, and that's that, and we're lucky we have a range of options that are all good for baby. So don't over-think it, if you can help it, and just remember that for all the rhetoric, you'll do what's best for you and your LO, and stuff everyone else.

And if your family start giving you grief, you can point out that you're not judging them for doing what was best for themselves and their families, so they can lay off you. I'm pretty much the other way round - DM was unable to bf for longer than a few weeks, but all my friends and family are assuming I'll be bf'ing from the get-go, no problems! So fingers crossed smile

lastnightopenedmyeyes Tue 10-Dec-13 15:34:01

Jazzcat just to echo everyone else and tell you not to worry. This 8 feeds in 24 hours business is not worth dwelling on. I'm afraid my DS didn't read that statistic, he fed 12-14 times - he was a snacker. Despite all my efforts to lengthen feeds.

But that phase passed really quickly, and the hormones really do get you through it. Or they did me. And yes, I was exhausted, but I found breast feeding very relaxing and rewarding so I never wanted to stop.

But everyone is different and you'll find your own way. Just don't worry about it, it will all work out.

jazzcat28 Tue 10-Dec-13 15:43:36

Aww thanks everyone smile I think I was just a bit overwhelmed with it all, and it didnt help I went on my own and came home to an empty house so my only outlet for a winge was here! I think I'm going to try and not stress out too much between now and the NCT classes. gnitting I hear what you're saying, my brain is telling me that bf or bottle is fine as long as it's fed but I guess I'm feeling a little bamboozled as a first time mum. Poor thing isn't even here yet and I'm worried I'm making bad decisions!

The one thing the NHS staff did say today was that every day counts when bf - so even if I just manage to give that very first feed and then go straight to bottle that will be better than nothing. Every day following that is a bonus as far as they are concerned.

Tomorrow I have GTT and anti-D injection so cue more stress...

I do have a nail appointment booked in for the afternoon to cheer myself up though.

misskatamari Tue 10-Dec-13 16:15:42

Fingers crossed GTT comes back negative and you can have a giant piece of cake to make you feel better too grin xxx

LovesToBake Tue 10-Dec-13 16:54:35

Jazzcat I'm sorry to hear you're feeling so disheartened about breastfeeding and speaking as someone who encountered various problems in the early weeks of breastfeeding, but stubbornly refused to consider anything other than making it work and then breastfed exclusively for 10.5 months, I would say don't listen to those average stats and just wait and see how things work for you and your baby. For what it's worth I think you're in a harder position than most with the lack of support from your family. I was never big on feeding in front of family and my Mum made me feel better about that by saying she was the same and that she actually found the act of breastfeeding a very intimate moment between her and the baby and that she actively preferred doing it alone in a room. The moment I started doing most feeds in my comfy feeding chair in the lovely calm nursery with my breastfeeding cushion, I felt the pressure lifted right off me and started to savour those moments.

If it's helpful at all, I obsessively logged all of DS' feeding timings in a notebook for months and months so could give you a sample of how it looked for us in the early weeks to try and give you a more real life picture? I would also just add that if you're anything like me, your body is awash with adrenaline in those early weeks, you feel amazing because you're no longer pregnant, you have a beautiful new baby and the fact that your nights are mostly a few periods of 2hrs sleep strung together really doesn't seem to matter. You don't have to get up to do to work the next day and you can lounge all day in your pjs if you want and have multiple naps when the baby sleeps during the day to catch up if you feel like it (easier with DC1 of course!)

Thingymajigs Tue 10-Dec-13 17:18:46

I don't tend to add much to feeding discussions because I've experienced both sides and know how emotive the topic can be. I do want to add to the bit about breastfeeding infront of family though.
My dad told me to take newborn ds2 to feed him in the bathroom (this was my own house and he was visiting). Not wanting to cause an awkward situation I just left and sat on my bed feeding the baby for an hour while the visitors eventually decided to leave. I was completely covered so there wouldn't have been an issue with exposing myself.
People don't realise how long individual breastfeeds can take and now I would never be told where to feed my baby especially by a generation who are completely clueless about breastfeeding.
If you choose to breastfeed I think it helps if your husbands/partners are completely onside and will help support you especially when dealing with awkward relatives. You have to be confident with your choice. I've prepped DP and my two boys so I should have lots of support and hopefully my boys will grow up knowing that its entirely normal.

marzipanned Tue 10-Dec-13 18:27:00

Loves if you don't mind sharing, it would be great to see what your early feeds looked like with your DS.

I am another one who is feeling pretty committed to bf and mostly worried about it going wrong. Luckily DH and all family are very supportive, and the two close friends I have who've already had kids both struggled with establishing feeding at the beginning but persisted and carried on for at least a few months (not sure if quite as long as 10.5 - that is fab!)

jazz as misskat says, you can only try your best. Even if all you manage is to get a bit of colostrum down baby, that will really boost their immune/digestive systems. But most important thing is happy Mum/happy baby, so if bf doesn't work, there is no harm or shame at all in switching (I need to remind myself of this too smile )

Had 32 wk appointment today and for the first time didn't come away feeling reassured. Bump has been spot on til now but is measuring a week behind ( I know it's no cause for concern, but I am so terrified of IUGR as a major cause of stillbirth) Trace protein in urine and HR had dropped from 150 to 130 - again, MW not at all concerned about either of these, but it was just the combination of factors that left me feeling a bit worried.

Baby very much breech at the mo so have bought myself a gym ball and am going to get bouncing.

In other news - my cousin whose waters broke this morning had an unplanned home birth, the baby came so fast! MW and paramedic arrived as baby was crowning, so it was almost delivered by the Dad. More jealous than ever - though it is her third, and I think first two births were a lot more slow and painful!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Tue 10-Dec-13 18:53:45

I was another logger! I had an app on my phone and recorded every feed, sleep etc. it helped me to feel like I had some kind of control! I also did it because I felt bad when I was in hospital, the midwives asking 'when did he last feed?' And I was so exhausted (and low on blood!!) I couldn't say. The midwives seemed amazed and unsympathetic at my lack of info and that made me feel guilty confused

Don't think it was anything more than horrid midwives to be honest.

I don't think I will get the chance to be quite as meticulous in my logging of feeds and sleeps this time round grin

LovesToBake Tue 10-Dec-13 19:12:15

Same here lastnight! My first hurdle was the day after DS was born waiting in hospital for the paediatrician to do the newborn check. DH rocked up at 9am when he was allowed back in and we naively assumed we'd be home within the hour - he's even been to Tesco and bought croissants for when we got home. Instead, we sat around waiting all bloody day for the paediatrician to finally do the check around 4pm - then when she did the heel prick test for blood glucose it was low. She was pretty unpleasant and straight away instructed the midwives to 'get some formula into the baby'. I burst into noisy tears as I felt like I'd failed already, then whilst alone with a lovely midwife, we realised I hadn't fed him for hours - he's been sleeping happily and who knew you were supposed to wake them every few hours in the early stages - we'd been totally left to our own devices with no midwives coming to check how we were doing with feeding etc. Anyway, I didn't see the formula as necessary and instead got the midwives to help me with feeding positions (being taught how to feed lying down in bed was the best lesson I ever learnt on that front!) and as a result, several hours and several more perfectly normal bloody glucose tests later, I begged them to discharge me at 11pm which was apparently a bit naughty but another lovely midwife snuck us out of the back door basically! So I guess I'm just saying, stick to your guns and despite all the pro-bf messaging, you'll encounter a real mix of messages at the hospital. Another reason I'm planning a home birth this time around...

Anyway, looking at my notebook from that first week with DS, he was mostly doing fairly short 10-20 min feeds, about 12 feeds in 24hrs. But I guess the nights are the most interesting for first timers - he would 'cluster feed' during the evening and through to about 10pm when we'd all go upstairs to bed, then there were about 3 proper 'night' feeds so we would get 3 proper sleeps between these feeds.

EeyoreIsh Tue 10-Dec-13 19:17:57

At Sunday's nct breastfeeding class they showed us marbles that represented the size of a newborn's tummy. It's tiny! Apparently a lot of the early suckling is getting used to feeding, rather than it being really productive.

It was also stressed that newborns are generally 50/50. So asleep 50% and feeding the other 50%. That's a lot of feeding!

tinypolkadot Tue 10-Dec-13 19:21:17

I had my 32 week mw appointment today too. Try not to worry too much marzi I know the past 2 appoinments I've had were a bit worrying, seemed like there was a combination of things to worry about, however today everything was fine. Although my blood pressure is still a bit high. Are you on 2 week appointments now?

Baby is transverse, so I'm another one who needs to get bouncing!

I was talking to a guy at work who recently had to deliver his baby at home with guidance over the phone. He looked very proud, and deservedly so! What an amazing thing to experience (but not something on my to-do list!)

32+0 and 8 working days to go!

LovesToBake Tue 10-Dec-13 19:22:23

That's a really good point Eeyore - a lot of the early sucking is also to stimulate your supply to get ramped up. Plus the feeding fluctuates madly depending on whether they're going through a typical growth spurt or not.

misskatamari Tue 10-Dec-13 20:23:15

Gosh lovesto - that sounds so horrible! I think you are so right about the attitudes you will encounter at the hospital. It seems crazy but I know a few people who at the first sign of any struggles with feeding etc they have been encouraged to give formula. It's ridiculous as we spend the whole of pregnancy being told how we should breast feed and persevere yet come in to contact with medical professionals with the "give up and give me some formula" attitude as soon as there is a problem. It just be so hard to say no in those situations too.

jazzcat28 Tue 10-Dec-13 20:30:44

All very lovely advice and tips, thanks to everyone for taking the time to reassure me! Had a wobble when DH got home from work and he is 100% behind me and said he will support me however I need him to (including keeping family in check) so that's a relief. lovesto what an awful experience! Fingers crossed that doesn't happen this time around.

tiny that colleague sounds like a superhero! I can't imagine DH delivering a baby!

Can't quite believe that Christmas Eve is 2 weeks today - think the time is gonna fly by!

Champagnebubble Tue 10-Dec-13 20:33:30

Jazz I'm also one the fence. I am right with you in your thoughts/doubts/feelings. In fact all my family and DH are supportive in that I should see what happens but....I have nagging thoughts/doubts. I'm going to play it by ear. I think that's all you can do despite your wants/thoughts/hopes.

tinypolkadot Tue 10-Dec-13 21:15:48

I know jazz I teared up when he told me, couldn't imagine my dh doing that either. In fact, I was trying to picture dh changing a nappy earlier and couldn't!

Just had a weird alien moment earlier. Heard another click from my belly and then a lump came out and travelled across my stomach shock had a little scream

marzipanned Tue 10-Dec-13 21:42:02

Thanks tiny. I wish I was on 2 week appointments! Next one in 4 weeks time, then 2 weeks after that. But DH has said we should book a growth scan if I'm worried...which I might well take him up on!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 06:41:04

Tiny I had the clicks with DS grin it's fairly common but not sure what causes them. Weird when it happens!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 06:44:00

Lovestobake we had to wait all day for the paediatrician check too. So so frustrating when they do that!

Julietee Wed 11-Dec-13 08:04:40

I don't think we get 2 week appts here - seems to all be a month apart unless you go over (Once again scowling at how my area does stuff).

Tiny That really made me laugh :D

Thingymajigs Wed 11-Dec-13 08:06:12

I think I would be weirded out by clicking noises. shock All that talk of bf last night kicked off my let down reflex for the first time in 7 years. It is so strange how that works. Just thinking about feeding can cause it to start.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 08:26:09

grin That's just reminded me of a time when DS was tiny and I was getting dressed in the bedroom. DH asked me if we needed more milk (for his cereal) and I literally sprayed breast milk everywhere blushblush

The word was banned for weeks!

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 08:46:31

Lol Lastnight that's hilarious! DH has started calling me "leaky" as one of my boobs seems to leak on him most nights confused

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 09:03:34

lastnight that's hilarious!

sunflowered Wed 11-Dec-13 09:08:45

misskat I'm not Leaky, I'm Snorey at the moment grin - heavy cold isn't making me the most attractive person to share a bed with blush

Champagnebubble Wed 11-Dec-13 09:32:44

No milk this end confused hmmmmmmm! Is that usual too does anyone know? My mum was the same and couldn't bf as didn't produce enough.

Julietee, I might be making it up but I think we are in the same NHS PCT, and I get two weekly appointments. In fact, as I have to book myself and nobody questions, I could manage to see the mw every week if I wanted. I don't, but I could say I had questions and she'd see me!!!! hmm

Thingymajigs Wed 11-Dec-13 09:34:42

Haha lastnight, that's brilliant. grin I can't remember any spraying incidents but I had lots of days where I'd looked down to see my top drenched in milk and then wondered how many people had seen that during the day. Looks like my washable breast pads turned up just in time. They are huge though. They fill up the whole bra.

marzipanned Wed 11-Dec-13 09:41:39

Champs no milk here either, though I got a bit of clear fluid on the squeeze test. I'm not worried about it - the birth is (hopefully) a way off, and only small amounts of colostrum needed for first few days anyway, before main milk comes in.

Have booked another scan for this weekend. I hope this baby hasn't been subjected to too many scans...this will be number six blush

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 09:51:29

Yeah I think mine is just a bit of colostrum. I'm leaky and drooly (that's two of the pregnancy dwarves covered!)

Julietee Wed 11-Dec-13 10:18:13

Champagne I'm in Watford - cool if you're in the same area!

I've just had a look at my notes and it goes 28, 32, 36, 38, 40 - so only 2 weeks after 36 it looks like. Is it different for others? I've just had my 28 week.
Same as you I could book extras if I wanted I guess smile

marzipanned Wed 11-Dec-13 10:42:55

Oh, those are same as mine Julietee (in Scotland). Then weekly if you go overdue.

The pregnancy dwarves:
Wakey (at 3am)
Horny (laura smile )

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 10:43:29

Just been signed off by the doc for the next fortnight, which will mean no more work for me now. I should be really happy but actually I feel guilty and a bit adrift! I'll have to do lots today to finish everything off, but I feel bad leaving my team in limbo.

We get fortnightly appointments after 34 weeks, then weekly after 40.

The house is a total disaster area after two days of plastering, so at least I can make a start on tidying it up. The good news is the plasterers found (by accident) that there's a lintel already between two rooms we were thinking of knocking down, so it means it'll be much cheaper for us to do when we get around to it. I'm putting a moratorium on work for a few years once we've finished this stretch of work. I'm fed up of it, and we have no money left!

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 10:48:57

Champs no leakage here either and I didn't ahead of the birth with DS and my problem was the opposite to your Mum's - I had oversupply! So I really wouldn't give it a moment's thought. Your body will leap into action triggered by labour to produce the colostrum and then about 3 days after the birth your milk usually comes in (in a BIG way - think Jordan boobs!) which is as a result of all that sucking that baby does in the first couple of days to stimulate production.

MissKat I'm with you on the drooling. It's ridiculous. I lie in bed trying to get to sleep and every now and again I have to wipe rivers of the stuff from the side of my face before they drench the pillow. Attractive!

Eeyorish, sorry to hear you're feeling in limbo but glad you've been signed off, it sounds like recent weeks have been exhausting and definitely not what a pregnant lady needs. There are no prizes for working right up to the finish line and everyone's different so hope you can try and relax (amid the house chaos) and let go of feeling guilty.

tinypolkadot Wed 11-Dec-13 10:52:42

I had my 32 week appointment yesterday and she said I'm on 2 weeks from now on, so next one at 34 weeks and on Christmas Eve as well!

I've only had the one leaky boob instance, and have noticed a bit of dried whitish stuff on my nipple, so I'm assuming that's a bit of colostrum. How often are people wearing breast pads? Will we need to wear them in our sleep? I'm just wondering whether I need to buy sleeping bras for nursing or not.

Also would appreciate some bedding advice, this is what I have for the moses basket/pram, but is it enough?!?

4 flannel sheets
3 fitted moses basket sheets
2 cellular blankets
1 fleece blanket
2/3 other random gifted blankets

Is anybody getting a bumper for the cot bed/crib? I've read they are bad, but not sure I fully understand why...

Thanks for your clicky story lastnight, I've had another one a few minutes ago, it's really freaky. I've been googling (of course) and it could either be his bones clicking, fluid popping or thumb sucking!

marzipanned Wed 11-Dec-13 10:57:56

tiny my friend told me not to get a cot bumper because if it comes undone it could smother baby or they could strangle themselves with it.

That said pretty much all my friends in the US put their newborns straight into cots with bumpers (funnily enough the advice over there is separate rooms from day one!)

Eeyore it sounds like you are definitely doing the right thing. Your team will cope, they will have to. You and baby are priority number one.

tinypolkadot Wed 11-Dec-13 11:08:03

Thanks marzi think we'll hold off with the bumper then, I'm not complaining if it saves us money!

Eeyorish it's really good news that you've been signed off, I don't know how you've managed this far, I certainly couldn't have done your job. Relax and enjoy it, your team will cope.

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 12:00:33

Tiny that list of bedding sounds spot on - it will certainly be sufficient to get you going in the first couple of weeks and if you find you need anything else, you can always buy extra bits. Your washing machine will no doubt be on every day as well which helps! We're using a Moses basket initially (so no bumper) but will have a bumper in the cotbed that we hope to move the baby into around 8-12 weeks. There is a fair bit of advice against using bumpers these days but I think you just have to be logical about it, see what's right for your baby and what you're comfortable with. My DS was (and still is) obsessed with having soft things around his face when he sleeps. So even now he will often squish himself up next to the bumper with a comforter or a couple of teddies over his face as well! But when they're tiny they can't move or roll in their cot so can't see why it would be a problem as long as the bumper is really secure and tucked down between the mattress and side of cot.

Re. breast pads - I would say you'll definitely need to wear night time nursing bras partly so you can secure a breast pad in place and partly as with the massive boobs you get when your milk comes in, it will feel more comfortable. So I would say you'll probably get through at least 2 pairs of pads in 24hrs at the beginning, maybe more depending on supply/leakage.

laura0007 Wed 11-Dec-13 12:01:19

Lol marzi! You guys know me so well! grin

Julietee Wed 11-Dec-13 12:06:45

Tiny The reason I read for bumpers being bad is that they can push themselves up against the bumpers and suffocate. Which is why you see baskets/ cots with cloth sides advertising that the material used is breathable.

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 12:07:33

marzi I'll be achey then, soon to be replaced by bouncy in a few days I hope grin

tiny that's pretty much what I've ordered for bedding. Does anyone use waterproof sheets under normal sheets?

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 12:16:27

Oooh what are the flannel sheets for? Are they for on top of baby? I haven't got any of those yet - but did just buy a couple more fitted sheets from home bargains grin.

For those who have done this before - Is it best to maybe get one nursing bra in prior to having baby or is it okay to get more? How massive do your boobs go? And do they stay that big for a while (hence needing a bigger bra) or do they go huge then go down quite quickly?

I don't want to buy loads of bras that will end up not fitting me, but also want to be prepared as I imagine the last thing I'll want to do with a new born (and potentially explosive boobs!) is go and buy bras.

tinypolkadot Wed 11-Dec-13 12:43:31

I bought a mattress protector eeyorish which is waterproof, but that's for the cot bed - just wondering if I need to get another one for when I need to wash it.

Misskat the flannel sheets are a mistake on my part confused I think I thought they were fitted and ordered the wrong ones, but i'm going to keep them as they should be ok for layering and I can always tuck them into the mattress as a bottom sheet if I need to.

Interested in bra advice too...

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 13:22:19

Before having DS I didn't leak milk once. A tiny bit of bright orange colostrum at 34 weeks but nothing to wear pads for. When my actual milk came in on day 3 all that changed, and for the first few months I was literally going through around 10 pairs of pads a day. I tried all kinds of washables but they just couldn't cope with the leakage. Typically the only ones that worked were the most expensive ones, Lansinoh. hmm

Needless to say I've stocked up in preparation. No leakage at all yet so I'm expecting the same thing as last time.

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 13:27:59

I'd second the recommendation for Lansinoh breast pads - they were the only ones that worked for me too. They're almost like nappies in the way that they store the leakage in little sealed off areas so you stay dry, unlike the cheaper ones that just leave you with a soggy pad on your leaking boob. I'm probably in denial about how many I got through in those early weeks/months - 2 pairs per day is probably what it settled to a few months down the line, and at that stage I found the washables worked well.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 14:01:54

Yes that sounds the same as me lovestobake wink

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 14:15:32

Gosh we're positively glamourous now aren't we - post birth were gonna be sat around in giant pants, maternity pads and breast pads, leaking everywhere!

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 14:19:06

And apparently without time to shower!

I was a bit shock at nct when it was suggested that I prioritise my crying baby over a shower. I was thinking a few minutes wouldn't make that much difference but apparently it can. I am going to be on a really steep learning curve!

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 14:25:18

That seems a bit like scaremongering to me eeyorish! I shower and wash my hair every day and that certainly didn't change after I had DS. They sleep loads so even if it's not convenient to have your shower first thing, there will be an opportunity.

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 14:43:46

I've got plenty of head scarves at the ready just incase grin or my trusty hat!

Sassy20 Wed 11-Dec-13 15:15:51

Well that's me finished at work till end 2014 / beginning 2015!!! grin

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 15:16:26

My solution to showering was bouncy chair in the bathroom with me. Sometimes he would be screaming and I'd have a 60 second shower, other times it was fine. Some days I didn't get the chance to even think about showering!

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 15:16:55

Thanks for the reassurance loves!

Yay, well done sassy grin

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 15:36:38

Congrats Sassy - how does it feel?

LovesToBake Wed 11-Dec-13 15:38:26

Eeyorish in fact I specifically remember a lovely phase once we were in a bit of a routine (after the first mad few weeks) where I would being DS into bed with me for the first feed of the day (say 7am or something like that) and would feed him lying down for about 30 mins so I could semi-doze. He would always fall asleep straight off the boob and I'd make sure he was safe and cosy in middle of the bed, then slip out for a shower.

Julietee Wed 11-Dec-13 16:13:46

I think he has been on my bladder all day as I've needed a wee constantly, then hardly anything comes out when I go blush

Thingymajigs Wed 11-Dec-13 16:16:37

Of course you have time for a shower. Don't listen to them, it's scaremongering. My eldest was the most demanding baby in the world and I still managed to shower daily. I used to put him in the bouncer next to the bath and let him have a cry so I could see he was ok and could still get on with my shower.
Great to hear some people are starting maternity leave. We are getting close!
I'm wondering if anyone is experiencing period pains. They started today after hearing some bad news, nothing major but a little stressful. Anyway, I'm thinking the stress might be triggering some cramps just wondering if this was normal.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 16:22:18

Thingy I've been suffering with excruciating period pains, I posted on fb about it. confused

Thingymajigs Wed 11-Dec-13 16:36:51

I saw a post about backpain. Is that part of cramping too? Perhaps these are just BH contractions without the obvious tightenings? I struggle to remember how they felt in previous pregnancies. Baby seems to be having a party in there so I know he's ok anyway.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 16:42:18

Midwife reckons it's just the pressure of the baby on the uterus/cervix causing my 'period' pains as she's starting to engage. She says 'it's all encouraging'.

jazzcat28 Wed 11-Dec-13 16:42:29

Re nursing bras, at my NHS bf class yesterday the instructors said if you go to John Lewis/Debenhams/Mothercare/M&S for a specific nursing bra fitting they will measure you then go up 2 cup sizes as that is how much bigger your milk-filled breasts will be! So I am thinking that is a nice shopping trip for me to do in Jan when I've stopped work.

Had GTT today and anti-D. GTT gunk was disgusting. Almost made me throw up. They said if I don't hear from anyone by Monday lunchtime all is ok. Have midwife appt Monday pm and so hopefully she will see the results on the computer. Anti-D was painful. Came straight home and ate cake and had nails done.

Just ordering bedding from Mothercare. Am bamboozled. We are using moses basket then cot. I have 4 moses basket fitted sheets already. So figure I need blankets. But it appears you can get them in moses basket size and cot size. If I get moses basket size surely they will only be used for a few weeks? But if I get cot sized will they be too big for moses basket?

Argh! My red glittery nails for Christmas are cheering me up amid confusion.

Yay for mat leave starting for some of you! Can't wait til I'm off now.

Sassy20 Wed 11-Dec-13 16:45:16

Lovestobake - not sunk in properly yet. Don't think it will till Monday when is normally be at work.

Re showering I'm another one who had dd in bouncer in bathroom while I bathed or showered. If baby cries for a bit while you have a shower it's fine and let's face it you need showers to wake you up and keep you fresh!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Wed 11-Dec-13 16:49:48

I don't know what size my blankets are, bigger than Moses basket but I just folded them so they were thicker. Means you need fewer blankets too.

EeyoreIsh Wed 11-Dec-13 16:54:45

loves, thingy, thanks for that reassurance. I can't face the day without a shower, so glad to hear it's manageable smile

I had a bit of period like pain yesterday too, I put it down to being really run down as I also had lots of BH.

I've set my out of office and closed the laptop, and I'm now watching masterchef smile I've still got to go in next week to hand stuff over, and I've got a few things to do, but I can do those in my own time and stop when the ribs hurt.

winterflowers Wed 11-Dec-13 17:07:48

Love the pregnancy dwarves! Think I have definitely worked my way thru all of them at some point, except leaky as still nothing on tht front. I'm only just 29 weeks though and having heard what you guys have said am not too concerned.

Little one has really become miss squirmy in the past days. Still get some monster kicks but mainly feels like she is wriggling round and round and then trying to get out.

Glad you have been signed off eeyorish it sounds like the best thing and woohoo sassy for making it to mat leave! I finish next week and cannot wait. So hard to keep motivated now. Six days!

CubanoHabana Wed 11-Dec-13 19:09:15

I want mat leave now! Still have 21.5 working days left :-(


HarlemWobble Wed 11-Dec-13 19:24:44


Apologies for the lack of posts, I seem to have lost 2 weeks somehow! Last time I posted I was about to have my GTT, which came back fine. Julietee sorry for only just coming back to you on your question, thankfully it's been answered by many already, but in my case the only risk factor I had was my DF and 2 GPs having type 2 diabetes.

So we finally moved house 2 weeks ago and have started a mammoth redecoration project! Getting it all finished by the time baby arrives may be a little optimistic! Work is still crazy as ever, and still no mat cover sorted despite me having just 29 days left in the office not that I'm counting I must have interviewed 20 different candidates but none of them fit the bill.

I'm very envious of those of you starting mat leave, it really does bring it home how close to the end we are. I'm glad you've been signed off eeyore and misskat. It sounds like you both need some time to rest and de-stress!

Fingers crossed I'll be able to keep more up to date with the thread more easily now that I have a longer commute - I can catch up with all your posts on the train journey!

Have lovely evenings all x

misskatamari Wed 11-Dec-13 22:27:52

Awww cubano - at least you have Christmas in the middle to break it up a bit - I'm sure mat leave will be here before you know it!

Harlem - good luck with the decorating! I'll keep my fingers crossed you get it all done before baby arrives.

God mine must have moved as she's started a merry little dance on my cervix! Oh my god the knitting needles!!!! It actually makes me yelp when she boots it! Just hoping she shifts soon! Time for some "rainbow relaxation" - hopefully when it tells me I will have a good nights sleep my subconscious will listen and I won't be awake at 4am again!

mrscookie78 Thu 12-Dec-13 07:25:31

for bras they like you to go around 37weeks I think when your baby may of dropped down so your ribs have moved back slightly. I got mine from m&s and they were spot on when my milk came in! grin if you ask at these places they will tell you the best time to come and get measured.