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January 2014 (Thread 11) - We demand answers like what to pack in our bags and who stole our energy?

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Toothfairy78 Sun 27-Oct-13 23:18:59

OK before we start... SQUEEEZE!

And begin!

extracrunchy Sun 27-Oct-13 23:48:18

Checking in.
Also, I have hippo feet.

Checking in - haven't caught up, as DH in hospital - appendicitis.
He's out of surgery now and okay, but have had a rough few hours catastrophising in my head (stupid surgeon said it was 'a half hour' op, so the fact he went up at 9pm and only just got back had me thinking the worst).

Hope everyone's okay - will catch up more in a couple of days when home more/not totally wiped etc. MN on phone is super-slow and eats battery, so prob won't check in much.

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 02:20:46

Oh, that's rough, Humpty. Poor thing sad
Glad he's out and ok.

Thanks for the new thread, tooth flowers

Good luck for your scan today, nature.

Holy crap, it's really windy outside!

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 06:00:05

Poor mrhumpty - had it perforated?

Dd has not fully grasped the change to GMT although only woke 10mins before the start of cbeebies today which is an improvement on yesterday.

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 06:52:01

Checking in. I feel today is going to go very slowly!

humpty hope your Dh is ok

extracrunchy Mon 28-Oct-13 07:13:12

Hope MrHumpty feels better very soon.

Tarka same with DS. 5.40 today. Humph.

BookTart Mon 28-Oct-13 07:33:48

Poor MrHumpty - hope he feels better soon and that he is a good patient!

Other thread is full grin

flyawayblue Mon 28-Oct-13 07:37:40

Just checking in.

Humpty sounds like a manic few days, glad to hear DH is out of surgery and okay.

Thinking of nature today - good luck for your rescan.

I was kept awake last night by wind (outside smile) and the little one doing the most movements ever. At one point it was like she was a spinning top - so fast!

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 07:40:41

tooth thanks for the thread!

humpty that must have scared the shite out of you! Glad he is on the road to recovery.....perhaps he needs a hat with ears to help him along? wink Hugs!

nature good luck today. Hope you finally get some positive answers.....

toby hope the heartburn and cramps have eased off. When u guys said wind woke u up I totally thought u meant gas! grin

Its pretty blowy here too and both our neighbours have had bushes and signs fall down. Our fences are still up thankfully and at least it has stopped humping it down with rain now! Just getting ready for our spa day! Am determined to savour every moment of it while trying to ignore the stress of work that will arrive tomorrow.....grin

MrsVDB Mon 28-Oct-13 07:43:04

Hope he's ok humpty

Good luck today nature

I've got midwife at 9.45 but having a nice lie in before. Haven't felt much movement since yesterday afternoon just the odd kick so glad to be going in anyway

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 07:44:26

humpty glad all is now ok but bad times for worrying.

nature good luck today. Got everything crossed for you.

I have just had a massively long sleep after my busy weekend but my back is in agony. Guess this is the start of all the 3rd tri issues for me.
Cant hear that much bad weather outside yet (yes i am still in bed and have not opened curtains yet)
Think the north west is supposed to get a bit later today but it shouldn't be too bad.
Going to see if i can go and view the midwife centre today and then its food shopping time, dhs MOT (i hope its cheap as we really cant afford a problem) and breastfeeding nct tonight.

Anyone not had baby jab them in the ribs yet?
Am 29+3 and baby seems to be sticking to the movement routines of the last few weeks, just feel it a bit more, but no rib jabs yet. Just regular kicks and some hard pressure when i am guessing it turns and is pushing against me.
Are we supposed to be sitting down for an hour each day to count movement? I am just planning on doing that if i think movement gets less. Its difficult with this ap to figure out how much less kicking ill feel than others.

BookTart Mon 28-Oct-13 07:51:26

frizz I've had nothing that high up yet (30 weeks today). It seems my one prefers to prod me in the bladder confused. I wound myself up so much with the kick counting app that I had to delete it. She doesn't ever kick, just wriggles around, and she doesn't seem to do that as much as everyone else's baby does either. So long as I feel some movement two or three times a day I think I'll have to be happy with that. Stressful though.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 08:00:51

I never had rib kicks with dd. I do have a long body though.

Toothfairy78 Mon 28-Oct-13 08:02:18

Morning all,

Well done for filling that last thread ladies.

humpty wishing mrhumpty a speedy recovery.
frizz I have been getting occasional jabs in the ribs for a few weeks now, especially if I slouch. Only just under the bottom rib on my right though. I have high AP too.

OK am gonna check what it's like outside and venture to work via motorways on,y I think. Hope everyone i Ok and has safe journeys.

MrsVDB Mon 28-Oct-13 08:21:55

I haven't had rib jabs but last week my ribs really hurt and my bra back size went up so I'm assuming he moved up a bit. Did have like a sharp pain in ribs at back which I assume was foot/elbow/ something hard for the day which has now gone.

There was a kick counter stall at babyshow and the lady said your supposed to count periods of movement so not necessarily kicks and also that you should just learn what's normal for you so there isn't a set number a day

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 09:45:06

Thanks. I am pretty happy that baby is still moving regularly so all is hopefully ok in there. Am kinda looking forward to worrying about baby once it's here. At least it will be a real baby and not just what I often imagine as a blob in my belly!

Hoping to have the nursery done and everything up by next week. Then we can see exactly what my sister has loaned us and figure out what we still need (a lot if my Amazon list is anything to go by) Then I need to clean up the buggy and car seat and figure out how they work.

Hope the weather is holding out for everyone so far.

Spacefrog35 Mon 28-Oct-13 10:15:17

Everything crossed for nature thinking of you x

Hope mrhumpty feels better soon

MrsAVB Mon 28-Oct-13 10:15:51

nature lots of love and FX for your rescan today, will be thinking of you.
humpty hugs... Hope your DH is ok and you're not too stressed out, and that he recovers quickly and doesn't use it as an excuse to sit on his arse indefinitely.
Had another busy weekend, tiredness is definitely setting in, plus combined with not sleeping well. I am longing to be able to sleep on my tummy again!
Everyone that I work with is a wuss. The storm is not very bad where we are and yet loads of people are skiving off. And I have further to travel and am preggo. Plus we knew it was coming and so there was plenty of warning to leave extra time for travelling. I know in some places it's much worse but here it's fine.

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 10:27:47

Small blessings, I don't have to see cockwomble colleague until later in the week. I've also got lots of treats to eat today smile

Weather near me is fine. Are others in the North West as well then?

Hope Monday is treating you all well so far.

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:00:10

I am near chorley natureand all is fine here. Mix of rain and sun so far today.

Just been to chorley midwife centre to look around and I think I am gonna go for it and try and have bubs there. It looks so lovely and they have lots of resus gear in case but only 1 in 5 get transferred to the hospital and there are lots of reasons for that ie baby pooping!

All the rooms are lovely with lots of space and pools. There are double beds so partners can stay over in the room with you as u can stay for 24hrs. They don't have visiting hours so my mum and dad could come up to see us straight away if they wanted. It just seems really nice. No hospital beds as they want to encourage you to be up and about so lots of beans bags etc and mood lighting.
Got a viewing at the hospital at start of Dec but I think I have already decided! !

MrsGSR Mon 28-Oct-13 12:16:35

Hope your DH gets better soon humpty!

Picking up a prescription for iron tablets today, hoping they'll help the tiredness and I'll be able to keep up with this thread!

Met my 2 week old nephew this weekend, he is gorgeous and I had lots of cuddles smile

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:21:19

Frizz that sounds lovely. I was hoping to use the midwife centre at my hospital but worried I will be made high risk now so won't be allowed. Fingers crossed that won't be the case. You're not too far from me. I used to work in and around Chorley. I'm over near Liverpool. We have even had some sun today!

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 12:23:50

That does sound lovely, Frizz. I'm still hoping to be allowed to use the MLU, but it all depends on what the next scan says.

What time's your appointment today, Nature?

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 12:45:55

No MLU for me. But I am planning to pay for a side room so that baby and I can get some alone time together before we go home. I have to stay in for at least 24hrs after the birth and dh will be mostly with our toddler. I'll probably be on the induction ward for a bit before the baby is born so I think I'll have had enough of other mum's company.
I might ask if I can use the MLU if labour starts naturally before 38 weeks but I doubt it because I'll need drips for insulin and glucose anyway.

My friend recently argued her way into the MLU by threatening a home birth so that's always a negotiation option!

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 13:03:56

Toby it's at 4.30 so just whiling away the hours at work.

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 13:22:44

Hi everyone, I haven't posted since the first couple of threads because a few people back then had MCs in the first few weeks which made me worry too much. I'm 28+3 today.

I don't feel in any way prepared for birth, I'm under shared care with the consultant an the midwife and don't feel like I've received any information at all, they are just checking me and baby and sending us on our way. I'm totally unprepared for mat leave as well since I've been trying to get the necessary form for MA from the admin person at work for weeks with no success! I've also started getting horrendous anxiety this week which I think is a combination of work and having to have extra monitoring because of low fluid around the baby at the scan last week.

On the plus side we've got most of the essentials sorted and baby is kicking and wriggling lots which is both awesome and weird to feel!

I hope everyone else is ok.

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 14:10:59

Thinking of you, nature. How cruel for it to have to be so late in the day.

Welcome back, madrat. I think you'll find that none of us are really prepared, so you're in good company!

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 14:13:52

I'm glad we're all a little unprepared then!

Nature I've just been having a catch up with the previous thread, I really hope your scan today is reassuring.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 14:22:00

I think they do preparing for the birth stuff around 36 weeks. Before that it's usually somewhat of an emergency anyway and until then the situation isn't really clear enough - ie whether you'll be low/high risk or induced or need monitoring etc.

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 14:24:33

YY Tarka. I'm not seeing my MW again for another month anyway, and I have a scan the week after that (at 36 weeks) to find out what they're going to do with me. If I'm allowed a VB, I suppose she'll go through birth plan stuff on the appointment after that. I think that's normal. She mentioned something about a home visit for that.

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 14:27:52

Ah ok thanks, I'll worry less. It's my first baby so I don't really know what to expect. I just want to fast forward to christmas off work and a baby a few weeks later, work is draining me right now!

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 14:34:54

I'm not prepared at all, but MW mentioned induction last week (although it was in the context of they won't induce you this early) but it's still put the fear in me to get hospital bag ready and moses basket blankets washed just in case!

It is annoying having to wait till this afternoon but it does mean Dh can come without causing problems at his work. I've 55 mins till I leave work now!

lovelilies Mon 28-Oct-13 15:04:39

checking in grin
having horrid dreams about dp running off with another woman - woke up crying at 3am!sad

Hope mrhumpty is on the mend humpty. flowers

Been thinking of you all day nature, hope your appointment goes well. Only an hour and a half to wait! Please do let us know how it goes, we're all thinking of you.

Welcome back madrat! Like toby said, no one here is prepared. In fact, I had a freak out about that yesterday, but after seeing cute baby pics of DD I decided that perhaps a baby isn't such a terrifying prospect after all. smile

Hope everyone is ok with the wild weather. How are you doing toby, book and choco? It seems like things are a bit crazy round your way. And sultana and space? Sorry to everyone else, I can't remember where others are. I'm blaming pregnancy brain.

x post

sorry about the horrid dreams lovelilies. pregnancy dreams are really weird and they feel (at least to me) much more real than not

ughh. fat fingers. at this rate will finish this thread by myself. sorry...I meant to say they feel much more real than my normal dreams. At the end of my pregnancy with DD I kept having a dream where I was driving on US interstate 95 in a chevy suburban we owned when I was 15, but I can't actually drive so I kept knocking down and killing my family members. I still haven't gotten the courage up to drive. sad

MrsAVB Mon 28-Oct-13 15:35:30

Thinking of you nature. Hope it goes ok.
Exchange just had in my office -
Colleague who has just been on H&S course: "have you had your second pregnancy risk assessment?"
Me: "I haven't had any risk assessments"
Colleague: "well on my course they said you're supposed to"
Me: silence I BLOODY well KNOW I'm SUPPOSED to...
My boss: "well why do you need one, there's no risks here"
Me: because it's a legal requirement, CUNTPUFFIN, alongside a CHUFFING maternity policy "well for example, you might want to put things in place around me carrying heavy stuff like when you left an event early last week without telling me, leaving me to carry everything, or X, Y, Z bla bla bla"
Boss: "well it's not like you do any of that anyway"
Me: hmm
Boss: "and anyway, you should be sensible enough to manage that yourself"
Me: "it's nice to know you care about my health and safety... Haha.. Only joking"
Boss: "well it's nothing to with me anyway, health and safety isn't my thing".
And... BREEEAAATHE... angry

Bluecarrot Mon 28-Oct-13 15:39:06

In packing up our bedroom and moving downstairs for 6+ weeks so it can be insulated and plastered along with the nursery. Great cause our loo is downstairs but bad cause I don't want to be decorating my bedroom and nursery with just a few weeks to go! Going to ikea tomorrow to show DP the furniture I like and hope he likes it too ( mixture of malm and expedit in white)

Re nursery decor, what are you all going for? DP thinks bright. I think calm and neutral nursery and playroom can be bright. Ours is an attic room that only gets sun in for a few hours in early morning < adds blackout blind to shopping list> so needs to be light coloured to help it feel brighter.

Thinking silvery grey or pale aqua ( to keep it unisex also).

MrsGSR Mon 28-Oct-13 15:56:33

Thinking of you nature, keeping fx!

madrat I liked at some birth plan templates online today, I don't understand half of what they say!

DH has told me we need to pack the hospital bag now (his DB and SIL still hadn't packed one at 39 weeks when she went into labour!)

We're going for neutral and relaxing white and grey in the nursery smile

MrsVDB Mon 28-Oct-13 16:06:44

blue we just got our room and baby room plastered thus weekend and need to do coving, skirting and flooring before decorating so I know how you feel! I had already bought wallpaper for spare room (which is now baby room) when I under estimated how long house renovations take so I'm sticking with that. It's cream with burgundy toile pattern and other walls will be cream

MrsGSR Mon 28-Oct-13 16:06:48

I don't know how you managed to stay so calm MrsAVB! Your boss sounds terrible!

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 16:17:03

We've painted baby's room a pale green (f&b pale powder if anyone's interested). It's a tiny room though so only really room for a cot and a tiny dresser. Hopefully it'll share with dd at some point (if she ever starts sleeping better).

We have loads of expedit too blue. We had several different coloured units throughout the house and DH has just finished painting it all white to go in the living room for toy storage. Would love a playroom envy

Fingers crossed things go well for you nature and you get some answers.

hi all! Just checking in. Humpty so sorry MrH has been poorly. Hope he's being looked after in hosp.

Nature good luck for this afternoon. Fingers crossed they can give you some proper information, and all's well with baby.

We're decorating the nursery/spare room too, despite the fact it's fairly likely we won't live in this house at xmas. Mad pregnancy hormones made me demand it. We're doing it calico (magnolia by any other name), so it isn't overtly 'nursery' and we had a load of spare paint

MrsAVB your boss sounds like an arse. Can you just write your own RA, and take it in to be signed and looked at? Make up a template - at long as you're covering the risks, the severity and any steps required to reduce risk, it should be fine.

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 16:24:33

blue we are going for a yellow to match our jungle/animal theme.

We still only have the ceiling painted though and no aminal stickers have been purchased.......
We also need curtains and a blackout blind but hopefully once its decorated we can sort the rest out fairly easily.

madrat i am normally super organised but havent been at all. Still so much left to get/do but most of what we have isnt due to my organisation but because we are borrowing of my sister and as they are 180 miles away people have brought stuff up as and when they visited.

I am sure someone has asked before but....what exactly do we need when baby is born those of you who have done this before.

We have:
a moses basket which i think has a mattress in it, sheets, some clothes, baby seat, pram, 1 big pack of nappies in one size and a small pack of nappies in the smaller size, wipes, baby bath (we also have lots of random stuff we dont really need or that we will need later - love my sister so much)

I know we need to buy:
A moses stand, changing mat, lots of muslin cloths, blankets, bath thermometer (i dont trust myself), some baby soap and maybe a baby towel and id like a car sunvisor thing for morning sun if we go out.

And ill need: nursing bras, nursing nightie, breast pads (if breastfeeding goes to plan)

I assume the following can be purchased after baby arrives:
Bottles, a mattress for the cotbed, dummies, baby monitor, breast pump etc and obv loads more nappies!

People keep saying that we dont need to worry as baby will get lots for xmas but i dont think baby will be getting a big pack of nappies or a breast pump lol.

nature thinking of you lots right now and i hope the app goes well. Let us know how it goes.

mrsa bosses are def cuntpuffins. They have no clue and to top it all off they dont seem to understand that we are in our 3rd tri and would like to actually know what the hell is going on with our jobs/mat leave/safety etc and it doesnt relax you to realise how they are even less prepared than we are and they dont have all the hormones raging.

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 16:27:04

We have just assumed the cot will be in our room to start so we've not done any decorating for the nursery. I thought we could do it in the spring ready for him to move into it next summer. I hate decorating though so maybe I'll save up and pay someone else to paint it for me. Or bribe my younger brother (cash, beer and pizza).

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 16:32:01

Fingers crossed nature!

mrsa your boss sounds like a fuckwit!!! He really has no idea!

Sorry, really cant remember anything else! blush

Oh, except frizz my mw said no need to kick count, just be aware of whats normal for u and if you notice a reduction to get in touch.... Am finding that quite hard as my bubs has no pattern and has quieter and busier days too...

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 16:32:42

Frizz I'm working to this list of 'essentials:
- somewhere for baby to sleep - I just need a new mattress and some bedding and blankets for the cot
- Pram - ordered
- Car seat - also ordered
- Clothes - just need some cardigans and a hat or two
- Muslins

I also want or have already got:
- A thermometer because our house gets very cold
- Breast pump and a few bottles, hopefully so DH can help with night feeds
- Reuseable nappies
- Breast pads and maternity bras and nipple cream
- A steriliser

A lovely friend has given me a play mat thing and someone else has offered me some rattles. I'm getting a bouncy chair for him as well.

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 16:36:02

Had a lovely spa day anniversary - swim, carvery lunch and chill out.

We may not finish the decorating til after bubs is here as he will be in with us for the first few months.... We are gonna get wall stickers, so will wait and see what theme to choose once we know him.....grin

TarkaTheOtter Mon 28-Oct-13 16:46:05

frizz a baby towel (sponsored by persil) seems to be a bounty pack staple so should get at least one that way. Otherwise ikea are good <and some even have ears>.

madratlady good idea to save baby room until later. Unfortunately dh has been using ours as his exercise bike room and it reeked so I insisted we decorate it early to stop him using it and to give it a chance to air.

I have most things from dd so think we've got about everything we need. Just some new cot/Moses mattresses.

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 16:55:43

Glad to hear all are ok after the storm.

I have been blue-lighted in by ambulance and admitted to hospital after a big bleed this morning, this baby has impeccable timing!

Only 26+5, so have been given steroids and still on labour ward waiting to see if I have any more bleeding. No contractions and baby happy, so I am hoping that things settle down and they can move me to the ante-natal ward later and maybe discharge me tomorrow if all is well. I had expected this due to my placenta praevia, so had emergency plans in place, but still a shock.

DH brought the kids to see me, but it took him 2 hours to get here because of the travel chaos on the roads and he had to leave again straight away to make sure he can get back for dinner time. Poor Dd1 was in tears, feel so bad as she is only 4 and worries about me going to hospital, has done since I was rushed in by ambulance in labour with dd2.

Sorry for being me, me, me.

Anyone got any good jokes? I am bored and need cheering up.

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 17:05:43

I'm going to Ikea tomorrow, any baby bargains I should know about?

Madratlady Mon 28-Oct-13 17:06:14

Oh Stitch X post there, hope you're ok!

Hello all - thank you for good wishes, DH doing well and I got a few hours sleep at last.

another you poor thing, that's scary. Um, no jokes, sorry. Hope you're doing okay though.

MrsA, your boss and mine need to go in the incinerator together - they are both total wastes of space. GRRRRR.

nature hope appt went well.

Back to the hospital shortly - I'm sure I'm overreacting, but I really don't like not being there with him all the time.

puggle01 Mon 28-Oct-13 17:17:07

Crumbs what a weekend. Hope stitch all is well and your placenta stops misbehaving. Sorry to hear about mrhumpty too. Hope all went as well as it could for nature

Another thread! - they're filling up faster and faster. Wonder how many more we'll need before we're all there.....Yikes best not think
remains completely disorganised and slightly in denial

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 18:02:50

humpty good to hear things are going OK. I completely understand you not wanting to stay in there the whole time....

another poor you! As you say, still a shock despite being prepared. Naughty placenta causing stress! Really hope things settle down and you can get back to your poor 4 yo.

Jokes.....ummm....tonight I wont need to take any rennies because I wont have any heartburn.... ha ha! grin

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:04:31

another complete suckiness!
Glad contractions havent started and that you are feeling ok and bubs is wriggling about nicely. You are at least in the best place possible and at least you were organised with an emergency plan. Sounds like you are sorted for it all. Good to be prepared in case.
Fx they discharge you tomorrow for some rest and relaxation at home.
Its typical that there is shocking weather and traffic when you really need the roads to be clearl hopefully dh will be able to settle the kids.
No jokes though, i suck at jokes.

humpty glad mr humpty is doing better now. Must be a relief.

Oooo ears on towels i am liking the sound of that!
I am totally gonna dress up bubs for all occasions. Am thinking of a lamb at easter!

I have to say puggle i sometimes think i am in a bit of denial about the whole pg thing. My friend who had hers in jan seemed so chilled all the way through her pg, didnt buy much until right near the end and was still decorating at about 32 weeks pg. I always thought that as soon as i found out things would be purchased, the nursery would be done but alas no. I think once you actually get pg you are so worried about jinxing it or getting everything too early that you leave it all and kind of forget about it lol.

Frizz1986 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:05:15

Oh and sultana glad u had a good day at the spa

Percypiglet Mon 28-Oct-13 18:05:52

Hope Mr Humpty gets better soon.

Stitch - hope you are okay and all settles down. You are in right place of course.

Puggle - think it was you - hope all is well now.

Nature - hope appmt went okay.

Love - had exact same dream about dh having affair. It would seem I might be starting to feel a bit insecure about myself and my changing body....

And yes, am also completely disorganised. All we have so far is 8 babygrows, lots of knitted cardigans and hats, two knitted blankets (courtesy of both grandmothers) and 1 hooded towel... Randomly also bought some cotton wool, metanium for nappy rash and my sister bought me nipple cream! I think we need to get organised in the next 12 weeks!!

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 18:25:01

Thanks all, have been allowed to eat and drink finally after being nil by mouth all day and will be moved to ante-natal shortly. Feeling a bit happier now I have eaten, low blood sugar makes me all emotional.

Just caught up a bit, signal is so intermittent here.

Sorry to hear about mrhumpty humpty, glad they caught it and that he is recovering well. Hopefully he will be home with you soon.

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 18:26:18

Hope your appointment went ok nature, have been thinking of you x

another yay that you have had food, that's always a sign that they are relaxing! PHEW! Really hope you go home soon.

MrHumpty should be home tomorrow, with luck. Phew again.

Now I would like a week STRESS-FREE, please!

BandontheFun Mon 28-Oct-13 19:03:57

Just checking in...u guys have been busy 3 pages already!

Humpty hope ur husband gets home soon.

nature hope ur appointment went went ok

Another that sounds scary hopefully u get home soon. Last thing u need just now is the weather being an ass!

For our baby's room the walls are neutral but we have added lime green, turquoise and orange. It's pretty unisex just now but think if it's a girl it will be easy enough to add in pinks and purples.

I'm pretty organised wanted to get the baby stuff bought so I can start thing about Christmas! Just stuff for my hospital bag and sheets for the crib and cotbed, I have to get now, do u think disposable pants are a necessity? Also looked at maternity mats for the bed and car and stuff not sure if I will need them anyone used them in previous pregnancies? So much leakage to think about! shock who knew?

MrsGSR Mon 28-Oct-13 19:38:46

another glad you've been able to eat, I hope they get you home soon! I don't have any jokes but notalwaysright.com always makes me laugh, a website full of stupid things customers say.

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 19:39:05

I think pink is over rated, the dd's bedroom is a lovely tropical sky blue with dinosaurs, as requested by dd1. Dd2 also loves it and is obsessed with dinosaurs, she points to the wall transfers and says "dinosaur, rrraaa"!

I bought cheap black cotton Primark big knickers instead for my last two band, more comfortable, just buy two sizes bigger. I had bed mats for my last pregnancy which are good, waterproof sheets for my first, but they slide too much, but typically my waters went as I got into the car, all over the footwell.

After this experience I will be getting my hospital bag together I think!

sarahleanne Mon 28-Oct-13 19:43:58

Don't forget big fat sanitary towels almost like nappies for your hospital bags. Get the huge ones as they will be comfier if you end up having stitches.

humpty I hope DH makes a good recovery.

another that sounds scary.I hope you get some sleep in there tonight.

nature any news? thinking of you.

madrat jealous of your IKEA trip tomorrow !!

DD is currently in what will be the babies room. She will be moved in with DS once babies born into the bottom bunk with a bed guard. Thinking about it, I should probably get her used to this before babies born as the transition from cot to bed could be tough? hmm

29 weeks today! smile It's getting closer ladies...

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 20:12:08

How old is dd Sarah? Dd2 had been in a cot bed with a bed guard since 17 months. Do you plan on having the baby in with you for a while at first at all, to give you more time? You could always try taking the drop side off the cot with a bed guard for a trial and see how it goes before moving her?

Big pads also good over cs scars to protect them too.

sarahleanne Mon 28-Oct-13 20:18:54

Oh that's good to hear your DD has been in a bed with a guard since so little, that's fairly reassuring actually.
DD will be 2yo next month so I think age wise she is fine. The baby will be in with me for approx. 6 months or when I stop breastfeeding so plenty of time to move dd into the other room. But, I've been reading that it may be better to move dd sooner rather than later so she doesn't feel that the baby has taken over her space/room etc. hmmm decisions...

BookTart Mon 28-Oct-13 20:23:29

Blimey another, glad to hear all is okay though. Hope they let you out soon.

nature, how did it go this afternoon?

Nursery-wise the baby will be going into the second bedroom, but it has lots of beams on the walls and ceilings so it will probably stay magnolia with some wall stickers to jazz it up a bit, because painting in between the beams is a massive hassle. I'm really badly organised though - tonnes of cute babygros but only one blanket, no bedding yet but loads of cotton wool. I think I'm just panic buying!

DP worried/stunned me earlier. I had to explain to him why he needs to come to ante natal classes, because he thought it was just in case he had to deliver the baby at home in an emergency. Apparently he could just look up how to do that on the internet if he had to. It took ages to explain that it would help him to know what to expect, and how he could help me through labour (whilst I am calling him all the bastards under the sun and blaming him for the whole thing grin) Promise me yours are all a bit less dense, or we're all in trouble!

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 20:46:08

Lol book! I too have been panic buying I think!

During the first Nct class, DH said to me in surprise "the baby comes out head first?" When the instructor also suggested the blokes may wanna cut the cord, his first reaction was "can I say I dont want to?" hmm Am really quite worried about how he will cope. Am praying everything goes smoothly and I dont totally lose it for his sake apart from anything else! Think it could put him off having any more otherwise....shock

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 20:54:38

We haven't been to any classes, but DH has a pretty good understanding of the whole thing. I think...

Another! How worrying for you. Are you feeling ok now?

Thinking of you, Nature flowers

We don't have a nursery. We only have 3 bedrooms and they're all full. So the baby's in with us for the foreseeable future. We'll have to move next year.

Glad DH is on the mend, Humpty smile

I've no idea who else I've missed out. You've all been super-chatty today!

My sister and my adorable nephew have just been round for dinner. I finally cooked the roast I've been longing for for about a week, and typically I only managed a tiny bit sad
I have, however, allowed myself a half glass of red wine this evening and it's sooooo lovely! I've been sipping it for about an hour grin

Sultanajo Mon 28-Oct-13 21:01:00

toby its so frustrating only being able to manage a small bit of your meal! Glad u finally got your roast though....grin

puggle01 Mon 28-Oct-13 21:05:41

Every time I hear any cord cutting chat I think about the scene in Peep Show when Sophie has her section and Mark is thinking in his head "Cut the cord? That's your job. Or do you want to do some credit ratings for me in return?" or something on those lines. DH definitely in the Mark Corrigan camp here though I have banned him from going out for KFC on the day

flowersfortea Mon 28-Oct-13 21:15:54

Hi everyone, just checking in and now heading off to find the last thread and catch up on everything!

Stitch - hope all stays well overnight. If you're looking for some cuteness /distraction then this link is lovely: www.boredpanda.org/wengenn-in-wonderland-sioin-queenie-liao/

All well here with me, 28 weeks tomorrow and very much identifying with those getting fatigued!

Toothfairy78 Mon 28-Oct-13 21:39:45

Urgh! Blimmin' Monday!

What is wrong with people at work? Dept head was back today though he's still a bit unwell. Asked what I was doing about organising the fecking Xmas do! Given that my lovely friend volunteered but is a shy retiring type, I may have to gently nudge her to take the lead. May also ask what the other senior mgr on the floor is doing about it.

There are also a lot of people in the danger zone for:
Giving me more work to do
Looking to me for guidance/hand holding
Chasing me for stupid tasks
Plain old dithering
Being useless

Have people not clocked I'm pregnant or something???

Sorry about the self centred post, but it's either that or I start collecting scrotums / scalps angry

Anyway moving swiftly on...
Glad to see people are safe after the storm.
nature, humpty any news?
another hoping you get to go home soon and get some rest.
I could do with a trip to Ikea, kinda sounds like an appealing idea right now, so very envy madrat!

Naturegirl82 Mon 28-Oct-13 21:51:10

Hope you're ok another and you get to go home soon.

So appointment was long. Didn't get seen until 5.30 and then I was scanned for 1.5hours! So had good news in that babies bladder is fine. Consultant thinks the sonographer was measuring cyst and bladder together which is why it was measuring so big. We were team yellow but she warned us at the start she may have to tell us the sex because of the diagnosis and she did, because the cyst is either a duplex kidney or possibly an ovarian cyst, so we are now team pink smile Dh and I are over the moon and was quite nice finding out after all the stress. So either of those conditions is easily treatable. However she does now think the stomach looked a bit strange so has offered us an amino. Have to be scanned again in two weeks to check on everything and see if anything is clearer. Will see what stomach looks like then and make a decision on the amino at that point.

Both of us feeling a lot better. Thanks for all the support over the past few days it's been much appreciated.

extracrunchy Mon 28-Oct-13 21:53:41

Oh nature that's great news! And welcome to team pink smile
Annoying there's another thing they want to check up on, but they're probably just being careful.

Percypiglet Mon 28-Oct-13 21:57:02

Excellent news nature , glad you are feeling happier about things. A little girly, lovely news.

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 22:10:24

So glad you're feeling better about it all,nature smile

Oooooh, sultana, btw! Sainsbury's have got delicious Copella cloudy apple juice on half price at the moment!

Spacefrog35 Mon 28-Oct-13 22:20:29

Fantastic news nature thanks

another hope you & bubs are doing ok too cake

TobyLerone Mon 28-Oct-13 22:22:59

Space, you are so lovely. How is everything going with you?

flyawayblue Mon 28-Oct-13 22:25:24

Glad things looked good today natureand welcome to team pink smile

Hope things are okay another. Sounds very scary but good that they are allowing you to eat and moving you to a ward.

I also had a day for anoying colleagues and bosses. They don't seem to understand that I can nolonger to 2+ jobs easily and are complaining when things aren't done quickly. Also still haven't sorted out my maternity cover!!

loving the sound of towels with ears - may have to pick some up at the weekend.

sarahleanne Mon 28-Oct-13 22:29:24

great news nature.Awww a little girly,cute smile

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 28-Oct-13 22:35:51

Good news nature, congratulations on being team pink.

Have been moved to a ward with a newborn on it, not much sleep for me thinks. Got to have more steroids in the morning just in case, but no more bleeding so crossing fingers that my placenta will behave now so I can go home.

Grr at annoying bosses and colleagues.

cake all round.

Toothfairy78 Mon 28-Oct-13 23:23:57

Ooh good news another and nature!

Hoping for continued improvements!

ToothJr appears to have taken up Cossack dancing. I seem to getting kicks in multiple directions this eve???

I also had a neat business idea...*antenatal Rage-er-cise*. It involves pregnant ladies donning boxing gloves and punching the crap out of a punchbag or a man dressed in one of these suits www.bartitsu.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Bicycle-11.jpg


extracrunchy Tue 29-Oct-13 00:07:54

Tooth - absolute genius.

Another - hope you're home tomorrow and glad to hear you're not having any more bleeding.

Night everyone!

OnlyThePurpleOnes Tue 29-Oct-13 06:30:22

Hello all. Been very slack on catching up because - we'll, I'm slack.

Another hope you get home soon! must be so frustrating.
Nature great news,a mad congrats on joining team pink grin

28 weeks yesterday, little one keeps doing the most insanely painful stretches which culminate in her head smashing repeatedly into my bladder. Was hobbling round the mall at the weekend, trying to keep up with DD, almost in tears. Prolonged walking seems to make it worse. DD had a chest infection over the weekend bless her, and was on the ventolin nebuliser three times a day, which she isn't the biggest fan of. Needless to say there were a few early mornings and late night, and we were all a bit wrecked. Thankfully she's bounced back now and is back in nursery today so I get a bit of a rest!

Ordered a huge box of Christmas bits from tesco which is getting delivered tomorrow (we're overseas), very excited about DH's novelty Christmas pyjamas! Lol. Also got DD a fluffy reindeer onesie which she will be delighted with. £9! Can't do a lot for that round here.

Not long to go now ladies - we're all 3/4 of the way there!

MrsAVB Tue 29-Oct-13 08:43:35

Morning all!
nature glad you're feeling better and have had some more positive news! congrats on team pink!
another hope you're doing ok and managed to get some sleep. FX for going home today.
humpty, how is DH today? Hope you're both coping ok.
I am having an irrational rage week so far. Yesterday's cuntpuffin boss stuff has really got to me on top of all her past form, then trains were still fucked on the way home from the storm, DH made dinner unreasonably spicy with no good reason, and baby was unnecessarily kicking me painfully yesterday. And now someone has had the nerve to sit opposite me on the train so there's no leg room when there's loads of other seats. Which I've now moved to, giving her a LOOK! I am turning into a grumpy old woman, sigh.
Only 7 weeks left at work, sigh...
Have a good day everyone.

TobyLerone Tue 29-Oct-13 08:54:00

Ugh, MrsA. I really hate personal space invaders angry

It's sunny outside and I've done the housework already because my best friend from school is coming over today and I'm quite excited. We haven't managed to see each other for about 5 years -- she has 2 children I've never met. She sadly couldn't make it to my wedding and we promised ourselves then (January!) that we'd meet up soon.

Have good days, all smile

Mythreeknights Tue 29-Oct-13 08:56:13

Hi all, clocking in, thanks for the squeeze reminders. Does anyone else feel like their fanny is about to fall out? So much pressure, sometimes I just have to sit down. Well, ds1 woke this morning looking peaky again, ds2 has gone into nursery and ds1 is now munching some cereal and is now v chatty so I am starting to think he was trying one on...might leave it half an hour and then get him dressed and into the car if he continues to be so cheerful. It's hard to make a call when they are all weepy and tired when they wake up (or maybe I am just a bit wet!).
Hope storm damage not to bad for those affected. Stunning blue skies and very calm here. However our heating still doesn't work so it's a bit chilly.
puggle take it easy!! Sounds quite scary for you.

another glad you're on the mend, fx it continues that way.

nature YAY! So glad you had good news. Phew!

Off to hospital in a bit to see DH, he should be coming home today, and I've had a million offers of help with the last of our housemove and everything else, which is lovely and very touching (may have cried a little).

After last night (came home at 5 to wait for Ocado man - stocking up on convalescent food - he arrived at SEVEN THIRTY with no message to warn me, by which time I'd missed evening visiting at hospital) I am thinking today might be a good day for once.

As for rubbish colleagues - sorry, in a rush, cannot remember who said this - I just checked work email to find ANOTHER reminder from our Cairo rep of something he really should be doing himself, and sent him a stinky 'Actually, my husband is in hospital, so this will have to wait' email. Made me feel a lot better - aren't I mean? He couldn't have known. Still, maybe he'll take some initiative.

Have good days all, will check in tonight, hopefully, with DH back home.

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 09:41:44

Yay for nature and another getting good news, fx it continues and another and mrhumpty get to go home today.

extracrunchy Tue 29-Oct-13 09:43:48

Is anyone else thirsty ALL THE TIME?!?
I'm now worrying about whether MW should have tested me for gestational diabetes since I'm measuring about 2 weeks ahead as well... Is being thirsty a symptom? Dr Google says tiredness but seriously, who the hell isn't?!

TobyLerone Tue 29-Oct-13 10:00:21

Not mean at all, Humpty!
Hope DH is shortly home and comfortable.

extra, I'm thirsty all the time, too. On Sunday I felt like I had a hangover! Really thirsty, headache and knackered. No glucose in my urine at any appointments and my mw didn't seem particularly bothered that I'm measuring a bit big.

extracrunchy Tue 29-Oct-13 10:07:22

Sounds the same, Toby! Hmmm... Might ring and see what they say cos DS was born at 36+5 at 8.5lbs, which is massive, so might also be an indicator.
Humpty good to hear DH should be home soon!

MrsVDB Tue 29-Oct-13 10:18:56

Had my 28w apt yesterday and mw said I should have already been referred to gtt and dietician due to booking in bmi (34 and cut off here and she hadn't weighed me since so not sure what's changed). She said its too late for dietician so 'just eat less sugar' and then referred me for gtt. No glucose in urine or other indicators (am measuring 1.5 week ahead but apparently that's due to my fat gut)

They don't plot growth on chart here apparently, I thought that was pretty standard?

MrsVDB Tue 29-Oct-13 10:20:03

Sorry meant to say cut off here is 35 so I'm under

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 10:25:57

MrsVDB I only got growth plotted on graph at 28 week scan. Was just given measurement and corresponding gestational age up till that point.

Toby and extra I'm mega thirsty at the moment. Drank 3 pints of water last night alone! I was measuring a week ahead on some measurements last night but even then that is still within the limits of "normal".

Morning all!

Glad you're feeling better another, hope you are home soon. I think being anywgere near a newborn at the moment would be enough to make me change my mind about this pregnancy altogether! Felt so sad for your DD, hope she's feeling more reassured now.

humpty yay for your dh coming home and grrrr for crap delivery and egyptian colleagues. We are normally based in egypt and I have worked with enough egyptians that I now really enjoy being difficult and putting crap colleagues in their place. If he gives you any more trouble, I will sort him out if you like. grin

Was feeling really rough last night. Was worried I am leaking fluid and had some excruciatingly painful contractions. Things seem better now though still think I might be leaking. Baby moving fine, so not sure whether I am just making something of nothing or whether I should call the midwife. Any thoughts?

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 10:33:08

This is probably a stupid question, but those of you who have been measured, how were you measured? With a tape measure or...?

Your appointment sounds really positive nature. Little girls are great! Hope things go more smoothly from now on and the next scan rules out any problems. Hope you are able to relax more now and enjoy the calm before the storm rest of your pregnancy.

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 10:39:05

altered if you are worried phone the midwife. I think they also suggest to wear a pad to collect any fluid.

MrsGSR my bump was measured with a tape measure. All my other measurements have come from the copious amounts of scans I have had!

MrsVDB Tue 29-Oct-13 11:37:24

mrsg I was also measured with a tape measure but have a growth scan booked on Thursday too due to septate uterus

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 12:09:02

The nurse who did my gtt put a measurement on my chart for 28 weeks but didn't actually measure me! I'm not worried, it just confused me slightly!

Mythreeknights Tue 29-Oct-13 12:09:11

altered that doesn't sound so good - you should never be in excruciating pain (until D-day) and if you are also leaking fluid (does it smell?) then you should ring midwife / EPU ASAP. Good luck...you are not wasting someone's time.

Mythreeknights Tue 29-Oct-13 12:10:43

I have also just found out that I've missed my 28 week midwife appt (due tomorrow but hadn't booked and now she can't fit me in) She can't see me next week either - this would be the second time only this pg that I'd have seen a midwife - what would you do - just wait til 30/31 weeks?

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 12:59:40

Am I right in thinking they do blood tests at the 28 week appointment? If so maybe see if you can book an with a nurse just to do the bloods? I didn't see my midwife at 28 weeks, only the gtt nurse. All she did was take blood and check my bp.

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 13:03:27

(obviously some of the bloods were for the gtt, but they did general blood tests again too) I know nothing though so hopefully someone else will have a better idea!

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 13:03:45

Also if you need it they give anti-D depending on blood group, so if you are rhesus negative you should make sure you get this.

Has anyone read this article on bbc news?


I've not looked up the actual paper yet but might see if I can get hold of it.

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 13:04:27

MrsGSR you are right that they take bloods. I had ones taken to check for iron levels amongst things.

Frizz1986 Tue 29-Oct-13 13:08:58

mythree they do blood tests at 28 week app along with the normal blood pressure, pee stuff.
I personally wouldn't want to wait really so would probably call the midwifes or gp surgery to ask what they would normally do at this point.
I am sure it happens on a regular basis.

mrsg i was measured with a tape and was told not to read too much into it all as each midwife will measure you differently.

altered I have had worries about leaks as I wasn't sure if it was pee or fluid.
I called the midwife and they said to put on a pad and see if it is leaking all the time as if it is continuous it could be fluid but if you have some periods when nothing comes out then it is probably pee.
In all honesty I think I have phoned the midwife twice about the same thing as didn't know how so much pee could be leaking but as I had some hours where nothing came out they said it was pee blush
I think if things were painful though I would def call asap and they can reassure you as to what to do.

So my pee and vaginal swabs came back ok so no infections, just lots of peeing straight after the previous toilet trip. Although this seems to have got better.

Had breastfeeding NCT last night. The lady was a bit random and kept going off topic so it overran by 20mins!
I think i am going to ask others about their experiences though as she said that if you breastfeed you should be feeding on demand (normally every 2 hours for anywhere from 20mins to 1 hour feeds) for the first 6 months and you shouldnt be trying to get them into a routine.
Surely this isn't right as I don't think my friends have gone 6 months feeding this regularly as some of them said theirs were starting to settle through the night way before 6 months.
Any knowledgeable ladies out there?????

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 13:17:31

Puggle hilarious peep show cord cutting reference! thlgrin

Nature what a relief and great news about team pink! What a shame they found something else to keep an eye on - hopefully in a couple of weeks it will be normal and you can finally relax!

Toby hope you have a fab time with your mate! I LOVE the copella apple juice, but it's just heartburn juice for me at the moment, so having to stay well away! Sniffle!

Tooth what an AWESOME business idea! I really think it would catch on!

Another hope you got some sleep with the newborn in your ward.....fingers crossed you will be allowed home soon...

MrsA fuckwit space invaders! Gets right on your tits doesn't it when it's unnecessary! It's like when they stand and breathe down your neck in supermarket queues - makes me wanna say "oh that's very kind of you to pay for my shopping! Oh, you weren't offering? My mistake, it's just that you were standing right next to the card machine which is a centimetre away from me...." Grrrr!

Humpty fingers firmly crossed your DH comes home today and you get everything you need to sorted. How annoying about last night!!!

Extra YY to thirsty! I am ALWAYS thirsty these days! I thought I had perhaps been eating a lot of salty foods, such as gammon, but it is never ending thirst! And it HAS to be ICE COLD drinks! Going through ice like it's going out of fashion! I too am measuring big (saw MW this morning), but she said people usually measure big at this stage and then it evens out.... No glucose in my urine and my GTT was negative....

Altered I would call the MW and just check with her - not worth sitting back and worrying. Fingers crossed it's nothing significant....

Mythree I had bloods taken at 28 weeks to check iron levels and then the normal blood pressure, urine sample etc. I would be tempted to make an appointment sooner than 31 weeks - did she not give you any guidance?

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 13:18:47

Frizz great news about your test results! x

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 13:19:23

No knowledge here Frizz but if you find out any info I'd love to hear it. I'm going to quiz my sister at some point to see how she found it

curlywurlyllass Tue 29-Oct-13 13:33:16

Mythree can you see another midwife? I can be seen at midwife clinic at gp surgery (only runs fortnightly) or up at the ante natal bit of local hospital. It gets confusing when organising appointments

MrsG i was measured with tape measure....37 at 28weeks!

Altered deffo call midwife, might b a good idea to get checked out

Anotherstitch hope placenta behaves and you can get home soon

Extra, mrsV & sultana i had glucose in urine last week, re checked yesterday and none. But im still getting sent for GTT since growth scan shows a big baby sad

Humpty hope you get your DH home today smile

Nature congrats on team pink, hope your re scan in a few weeks goes well and you dont need an amnio. You have time to make your decision if needed and later amnios have much less risks.

Only hope you get some rest today, glad dd s better after illness

Tooth awesome idea! Can i b first customer for rage-er-cise? smile

book & toby we also havnt done any classes, could only get booked on one for 16th nov! I was hoping for weekly classes coz its our 1st and both are clueless. I tried to explain to DP what a sweep was- he turned green lol

I need a rant or a good cry sad
Growth scan yesterday has worried me. Apparently im growing a BIG boy (no one is listening that my 12week scan was crap/dates set disregarding 3rd measurement which was more in line with positive bfp, and that i have never agreed with their EDD and im certain im further on than they say) so now they are sending me for a GTT even tho urine re test shows no glucose (i drank lots of flavoured milk and ate breakfast before sample last week)
Work is stressing me out and now ive screwed up the rota for tomorrow (needing morning off for gtt) with all permanant staff going on training which leaves me with weak bank staff and 5 challenging teens. This mirrors last week exactly :'(

And breathe!

MrsAVB Tue 29-Oct-13 13:38:45

humpty FX for DH coming home today, hope you're ok and not too stressed out.
altered excruciating pain sounds like a reason to call the midwife! especially if it feels like contraction type pain.
Re. Measuring, I've been measured with a tape measure at 25 and 28 weeks, am measuring 1 week behind, but within normal. Have 31 week appointment today.
three I think I would try to make an appointment at her next clinic rather than wait til 31 weeks, or if this isn't possible see if it's possible to have blood, BP and wee tested by nurse or someone else.
frizz I read a good book about breastfeeding, called something like "how to breastfeeding, and what to do if you can't", from the library. From what I remember it was feed on demand in daytime, but no more regularly than 2 hours and no less than 4, for not more than half an hour at a time. At night you could leave them longer and there was also the suggestion of introducing a bottle of expressed milk in the eve with dad pretty early on, about 6 weeks I think. Will try and find out what the book was called.

curlywurlyllass Tue 29-Oct-13 13:42:13

Bloomin heck that took me so long to write!

Frizz glad your test results came back fine

MrsV good luck for scan on thursday


Thanks for all the responses guys. The pain was late last night, and since it's been gone for a good twelve hours I'm hoping all is ok on that front. I discovered after posting that I have a v upset stomach so given that contractions weren't painful with DD even in labour I'm wondering if thepain was that instead. Will keep an eye out to see if it returns tonight, but hoping all is well. With regard to the fluid, I will put on a pad and see what happens. If I am leaking it is clearly a tiny amount and not constant so will phone mw first thing if I'm still concerned. Also thinking of buying some amniosense pads so I don't drive myself mental for the rest of the pg. I know they're not 100% accurate but at least they can stop me worrying if it's negative. I think I just have a complex because I didn't know my waters had broken and I was partially dilated with DD til they examined me before my planned induction. blush

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 14:54:29

flowers curly! At least if you have the gtt and it comes back negative they might listen to you about dates! Baby will come when they're ready regardless of the hospitals EDD smile

Lots of work stress so far this week! fx the rest of the week gets better for everyone!

MrsVDB Tue 29-Oct-13 14:55:03

altered glad your feeling better but I'd still get checked if your worried at all

I was reading on another thread that babies shouldn't sleep away from people (ie in there own room) including naps until 6 m due to increased risk of SIDS. Apparently your breathing regulates theirs. I hadn't heard this before

MrsGSR Tue 29-Oct-13 14:57:56

altered I had some stomach pain last night due to an upset stomach, fx that's all yours was too! I'd ring your midwife or the tommy line thing if you're worried though.

Naturegirl82 Tue 29-Oct-13 15:06:33

I didn't know the reason why MrsVDB but I had heard that they shouldn't sleep away from you. I haven't got a baby monitor yet and that was one of the reasons I haven't got one yet as I figured I wouldn't need it till baby was older.

lovelilies Tue 29-Oct-13 16:58:44

Frizz I Breastfed dd for 9 months, to begin with she fed approximately every 2 and a half hours, more during the day because every time she cried, I fed her (you can't over feed with breastmilk grin ). she wasn't a 'long feeder' usually about 15-20 mins a go, she always fell asleep!
anyway, she was sleeping through by six months pretty much, maybe a quick feed to settle at one point in the night.
HTH smile

TarkaTheOtter Tue 29-Oct-13 17:02:42

frizz I think the key with bfing is to feed on demand. It might be that your baby feeds a lot and each feed takes ages, on the other hand they might only want to feed every three hours for five minutes at a time. For a newborn both are completely normal (volunteer at a bfing support group so get to meet a lot of bf babies). By six months they are likely to have feeds more spaced out and take about 10/15 mins.
On the other hand newborns will have growth spurts when it will feel like they feed constantly. These only last a day or so an are really important because they signal to your body to increase your milk supply to meet your growing baby's needs. The key is to go with the flow so I disagree that you shouldn't feed any more than once every two hours because there will be occasions when it might be more than that - maybe even hourly.

On the other hand, if you are feeding on demand and your (full term, back up to birthweight) baby sleeps through you let them sleep! No need to wake a baby that is growing well - they will wake themselves when hungry.

Sorry - that was a bit long. My personal experience was that from about 6-8weeks my dd fed about every 3hrs during the day, fed hourly from 4.30-7ish then did an increasingly long stretch from 7. So by 13weeks was either sleeping 7-7 or 7-1, then 1-7 with a feed in the middle. (Sleep all went wrong at 4months but that wasn't really to do with feeding.)

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 18:04:26

mrsv and nature I also read that them sleeping in the same room as you including naps is something to do with the composition of the air. I think its something to do with carbon dioxide we breathe out encouraging the baby to breathe (something like that anyway).....blush

another are you home now? Hope so.

altered call the midwife. It's probably nothing, but best to be safe not sorry. And yes please to sorting out Cairo rep!

Thank you all for loveliness, DH is now home and I can finally relax. Ridiculous, as I know an appendectomy is not a big op, but I have been like a cat on hot coals the past few days!

MrsG I've been measured twice with a tape measure, from top of uterus (they poke to find it) to pubic bone.

Gah, didn't refresh before posting...

curly sounds like you need to INSIST on being dated differently. You don't want to be induced etc just because they think they know better. Sorry the rota has become difficult - is there any cover at all?

mythree I had bloods at 28 weeks, as part of GTT (they were taking blood anyway, so just took one more vial!) - I would be insistent that they find someone for you to see. It's amazing how if you insist, they find a way. I am inspired to say this by the lovely old lady whose DH was in the bed next to mine in hospital. Overheard by shamelessly earwigging a very unpleasant doctor saying 'well, if he can pass urine, he can go home' and her quietly, firmly but insistently saying 'he can't walk. If he goes home, and has to come back in because he gets worse again, he has to be carried down 2 flights of stairs to an ambulance. I'm 89, he's 89, we don't need to be in and out of hospital like yo-yos. Please keep him in until you're certain'. They did grin

tooth I am signing up for Rager-cise. Love it grin

Spacefrog35 Tue 29-Oct-13 19:22:08

Wow, what is it with a nice shiny new thread. So much going on I can't keep up with you all!

tooth I'm in for ragercise, sounds just my cup of brew

humpty glad DH is home. I don't think you're daft at all for stressing, I was a complete wreck a few years ago when my DH was in for a few days. Felt like my arm had been cut off, I had no-one to tidy up after smile love your old lady earwig too, she sounds awesome.

another gentle hugs & cake

altered get yourself checked. Please, please don't ever feel like you're pestering or being silly. I'm pretty sure that it would have made no difference but I can't help wondering if I should have made more of a fuss or told people I was worried so please, just phone them or go and see them to put your mind at rest thanks

Everyone else, apologies I've forgotten what you said.

We finally have a date! The funeral will be next week so now we can actually get on with stuff. Only organised a tiny amount of stuff today but absolutely shattered. Think I've come out in sympathy with you all. MIL is still being an absolute *puffin but have decided to ignore her as far as is possible.

Hope everyone else is doing ok & all bosses/ colleagues/ randoms are winding their respective necks in

TobyLerone Tue 29-Oct-13 19:23:46

Space, I actually love you. You're amazing flowers

Spacefrog35 Tue 29-Oct-13 19:31:28

Aww thank you. Love you too Toby


AnotherStitchInTime Tue 29-Oct-13 19:39:48

Thanks for all the well wishes, not posting much as signal bad on ante-natal ward. Being kept in until Friday at earliest as a precaution, scan on Thursday morning to check placenta.

Special hugs to space, glad you have a date for the funeral, be gentle on yourself, it all tends to hit home again emotionally once the funeral is over.

altered phone your midwife just in case, pain can mean many things.

Will try to get back on later and catch up properly x

space I'm so glad you have a date for the funeral, that must feel like you've crossed a huge hurdle. Ignore your MIL to the ends of the earth, it is NOT about her, but about you and your DH and saying goodbye to Idris.

Did you get the PM results then? I hope it helped. Take care of yourself.

another grrr for being kept in. Do you have earplugs? Hope you're feeling okay.

Percypiglet Tue 29-Oct-13 20:01:08

Space your posts always strike me that you are acting in such a dignified and selfless manner. You are happy to think of us here moaning away about things that are much less than what you've experienced. Bless you, I think you are amazing. Hope the funeral goes as well as it can next week, will be thinking of you x

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 20:20:26

I'm getting myself worried tonight, he's been much less active today and I've had a crampy pain in the left side of my bump. I've been feeling sick and just 'not right' all day. I'm worrying about nothing aren't I? I had a cold drink and he did a kick and a wriggle but he's usually kicking me hard all evening! I think I'm worrying more than I need to because of the consultant mentioning amniotic fluid being borderline low and seeming concerned.

I know DH thinks I'm worrying needlessly because baby has been moving a bit. It's probably just anxiety related?

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 20:23:52

Sorry to but in when I know other people have a lot going on, I'm just sat here worrying and getting all anxious and need an opinion from someone other than DH.

Spacefrog35 Tue 29-Oct-13 20:28:29

Don't be daft madrat your not butting in thanks

Do you have an out of hours number in your notes? Mine was the labour ward. I phoned them a couple of times. Always felt awful for disturbing them but they were so lovely. Give them a bell if it will put your mind at rest

Spacefrog35 Tue 29-Oct-13 20:29:55

Aaarrgh - I committed the cardinal sin!

you're not butting in

Sorry wink

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 20:31:20

I do have an out of hours number, I'm worried they'll just think I'm being neurotic because I phoned once before when he hadn't moved all afternoon a few weeks ago and they told me to do the cold drink thing which worked. He's moved a few times now although not the big kicks like he always seems to do on an evening, I think I'm just panicking, I've been anxious all day for no real reason.

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 20:31:43

I'll let you off for the lapse in grammar wink

Spacefrog35 Tue 29-Oct-13 20:42:44

I doubt they will think you're neurotic, and you know what, even if they do, who cares! It's your bubba, if anyone is entitled to worry then you are.

If you really, really think you're being paranoid then try cold drink & lying down quietly to see if that helps but if you feel something is wrong just phone them & have a chat.

Hope you feel better soon x

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 20:46:45

He's just started kicking as I decided to go and call. I guess I was worrying needlessly.

I've got another scan on Friday to check amniotic fluid levels.

lovelilies Tue 29-Oct-13 20:58:10

Madrat, mine seems to not be quite so vigorous atm too, its maybe because they're getting bigger, with less room? smile

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 21:04:41

That makes sense lovelillies, for some reason I've turned into an emotional nervous wreck over the past few days though.

I got a form today to fill in for work to notify them of my pregnancy and planned start of maternity leave. Never mind the fact that I notified them in writing of my due date and requested my SMP1 so that I could apply for my MA four sodding weeks ago. I want to start Mat leave in 7 weeks, god knows how long it'll take them to return my MAT1B and give me the SMP1 now, never mind however long it'll take for the actual MA application. This is not helping the OTT anxiety!

MrsVDB Tue 29-Oct-13 21:24:55

madrat I've also felt less movement over last couple if days but had midwife apt yesterday and everything seemed fine. I think some movement is ok but call if your worried

sultana I had dinner in the shard tonight and the toilet cubicle had mirror on every wall and door. You could see everything from every angle and reminded me of you ha ha

curlywurlyllass Tue 29-Oct-13 22:32:30

Madrat call them whenever you are worried, that's what they are there for. I have days where wee yin is quieter than usual, worries me, then there's days where I could greet coz he won't stop moving! But if you don't feel right-call

Space thinking of you and I so admire your strength. I hope with all my heart that next week goes as well as it can

Another- hope you are not too bored being kept in and scan on Thursday goes well

MrsG knowing my luck I will have gestational diabetes!

Humpty I reckon I will be the one asking for an earlier induction, I'm petrified of being left too long and if I don't have GD I will be demanding they change my due date at next scan smile
I will find out if they have sorted staffing in the morning. Decided I'm not going to stress about it counting down shifts and 9 to go

Madratlady Tue 29-Oct-13 22:43:54

I've stopped worrying now he's woken up a bit, i think i'll go to bed, where of course he'll keep me awake kicking after worrying me all day!

I agree with others Space, you sound like an incredibly strong person.

Staffing is a pain Curly, I need a couple of hours out of my shift on Friday and a day off next Thursday and my assisstant manager whi is lovely is unfortunately rubbish at sorting the rota, it comes out about 2 days before the previous rota ends and I know he won't have remembered either of those appointments I tried to tell him about so I'll have to swap shifts if I'm scheduled to work, when we're short staffed anyway so I have very few people to swap with.

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 22:53:25

space thats excellent you finally have a date. I think you are amazing and really hope things go smoothly for you. smile

mythree my little monkey has been similar to yours all day and has suddenly started wriggling and kicking in the last hour finally! Also had what I think were hiccups! grin

mrsv grin

humpty hurray your DH is finally home! Bet you feel better already!

NCT was great tonight - the previous group came in and talked to us with their babies. Gave me lots of reassurance....Was surprised at how many of them ended up with c sections....! shock

Also arranged to go to an aquanatal class with a couple of the girls from NCT which will be great!

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 22:54:21

That should have been madrat and not mythree! Sorry! blush

Sultanajo Tue 29-Oct-13 22:56:08

another at least they are keeping a close eye on things and can reassure you further which must be comforting...

Frizz1986 Wed 30-Oct-13 08:31:38

Morning ladies.

I agree with everyone else. space you seems like such a strong and incredibly understanding person. I really hope that the PM gave you the answers that you hoped to get and that the funeral goes as planned. If your MIL becomes an idiot again just ignore her immaturity.

madrat glad bubs has awoken and settled your mind.

Yay humpty that dh has made it home.

sultana oh know the dreaded C I really dont want one of those!

I have the second class of this week tonight. The leader couldn't make the one a few weeks back so she rearranged, but i am exhausted. Fell asleep on the sofa again last night!

Well the maternity cover plans have gone down the pan again at work! The girl who was possibly going to have to relocate after we lost her customer is now going to stay with us as my friend currently on mat leave isnt coming back so there is a job free.
The girl is now being trained on her new customer by the girl who was supposed to be my cover. And as her customer wont finish until Dec and i am the only other person who knows how to do it, i am now covering that while she trains as its stupid training someone for a customer that is going at the end of the year.
So the plan is now....i do this customer (prob until i finish - gutted as the girl who went on mat last year had 2 months of handover and chilled out work), oh and the customer can't know i am doing it as the other girl is still on contract with them, then the girl who is to cover me is going to train and support others until prob end of Nov, then she might get trained on my stuff.
So annoyed as they are just so unorganised. Every time we have a plan and i feel like my stuff will actually get sorted something changes and i go to the bottom of the pile even though i am their hardest worker. Will be asking for my meeting next week to go through my leave and dates etc as only 7 and a half weeks until i leave. Hope that'll force them to realise how soon i go.
And breathe....must get to work!

BandontheFun Wed 30-Oct-13 08:42:01

another good shout on the Primark pants, prob more comfortable than the disposables.

Frizz hopefully it gives them the kick in the ass they need! I'm training someone in my job just now, it's a shame for them, but I just can not be assed! Glad I'm doing it now who knows we're my mind will be next month, I'm already on maternity leave mode!

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 09:17:17

Sorry not caught up properly but Frizz sorry you're having such a problem with work. I've finally managed to pin my boss down with a plan because I warned him that whilst I plan to stay tiil Christmas there is talk about inducing me if a problem is detected at any of these scans so may suddenly disappear! That freaked him a little. Cockwomble colleague was surprised when I said I only have 7 weeks left, he thought I was staying till mid-January even though that is my due date!!!

Space glad you now have a date. Wishing you all the best with the plans. I hope the PM has answered your questions.

MrsAVB Wed 30-Oct-13 09:23:27

madrat how are you feeling this morning? Hope you slept well.
space, you are amazing! Hope the time until the funeral passes peacefully and you are able to relax and get some me time, or me and DH time!
tarka thanks for the excellent BFing advice... I think you are going to be our guru!
frizz my mat cover has messed itself up too (i say messed itself, that's probably being too easy on cockwomble boss). The person who was going to do the majority of my cover has got a new job. We were also offering my assistant some of the hours as a promotion to give him the opportunity to develop, but now the bosses have decided to cut his hours as my assistant so it's debatable whether he'll want to stay just for the hours within my role. We are restructuring, and my boss's job is more vulnerable than mine, so I think she's going to try and steal all the interesting parts of my job while I'm off. I know my job is guaranteed while I'm off but that doesn't stop her nicking the most interesting bits as long as I come back on the same salary/ responsibilities etc. On top of the no mat policy, no RA, messing up my annual leave and general lack of acknowledgement of me being pregnant it pretty much sucks and it's hard not to let it stress me out. On the plus side, I've negotiated not to take on any new projects before I go, so I just have some ends to tie up, events to run, and then hopefully plenty of time to write a comprehensive handover, even if there's no one to hand it to apart from cockwomble boss.
Sorry for the boring rant guys...
Hope you all have good days...

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 10:37:41

I need some very trivial advice. Was planning on buying my pram today (uppababy vista) and was going to get it in red because that was the colour I preferred in Kiddicare. I can save £60 on the red, but I've now seen it in green which I prefer more but i can't get a discount on that colour. Is it silly paying more because of the colour?? Trivial I know!!!

MrsGSR Wed 30-Oct-13 10:40:24

Some of your bosses sound like nightmares! I hope they all pull their fingers out soon and everything gets sorted so the last few months are stress free smile

I'm another one who thinks you're amazing space! Will be thinking of you next week, I hope you have lots of support and someone to tell your MIL where to go if she tries to make it about her!

Today I'm completely exhausted. My only plan is to make Halloween biscuits for DH and his work mates (most of whom are big kids!)

MrsGSR Wed 30-Oct-13 10:43:50

nature I have the same problem! The pram I like is on sale in most colours except the one I want! I think if you can easily afford the colour you love then get it, if money's a bit tight it might be best to get the cheaper one.

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 10:49:58

nature, Winstanley Pramworld has both colours here for the same price. Our Stokke was cheaper from here than anywhere else, with really fast free delivery.

MrsVDB Wed 30-Oct-13 10:50:22

nature we bought the car seat in the colour we preferred but was more expensive. It won't make a difference but you will use it a lot and I'd rather have something I like smile

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 10:50:28

Also, the green is lovely, IMO.

Mythreeknights Wed 30-Oct-13 10:52:13

I woke with calf cramp last night - oweeee - has anyone else been suffering all along with this? First time for me and I hope not the start of things to come...

I also officially look massive. Had a committee meeting last night and everyone's jaw pretty much hit the floor when they saw me. Another 11 weeks to go...I just can't see where the baby is going to fit.

I have a consultant appt tomorrow instead of the 28 midwife check - and they'll do bloods and jags. So that's all ok. Only problem will be having a 3 yr old and a 4.5 yr old in the room with me...

Sultanajo Wed 30-Oct-13 10:59:12

Frizz and MrsA sounds as though you are having a similar day to mine! Just found out my bosses are even more Cuntpuffiny that I ever thought possible! The main person who is covering me, who I spent all last week training and will continue to suppport until I go off, while still tieing up a million and one loose ends and working shitty hours to get it all done, told me this morning that they have basically said to her they expect her to make significant changes to the way things are currently run and if she doesn't they won't be happy! When they advertised the job, they didn't say any of this (and it's the first I am frickin hearing of it too - as far as I was aware they were very happy with the way I run things, as when I have had appraisals that is what they have told me every time!). I am sooooo pissed off also because I have pulled them out of the shit on so many occasions I have lost count, including working all the hours physically possible and not claiming them back (which I wish I bloody had now!!!)

The way they have gone about finding my cover has also been very calculated and I am also thinking that if I do go back after a year full time (which I am not sure I will yet), that they will keep the current person in my post and find me something else or make me redundant.... (They have done this before).... If I want to go back part-time there will probably be very few options also. I was dreading going back before I knew all of this, but now the thought fills me with absolute dread! A big part of me thinks "great, make me redundant - give me a big frickin pay out and let me go....!"

I am absolutely fuming - they are sooooo frickin ungrateful for everything I have been through and done for them and this is the thanks I get. I obviously can't say anything to them either as my colleague told me this in confidence! Fuckers!

Sorry ladies - rant over! Now, where did I put my giant stash of chocolate???

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 11:09:05

Thanks ladies. The cheaper online price makes it £33 difference which is better. I do prefer it as the red isn't really me. I did buy the car seat in red (which I know doesn't matter) but wondering whether to swop it for the black! I think I'll pay the extra for the green. I was happy with the red until I saw the green! So much more me and would be suitable for girl or boy (thinking to the future!) smile

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 11:12:22

How much is it from Kiddicare, nature?

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 11:21:34

it's £629.99 but I should be able to get 10% off so £566.99.

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 11:28:09


Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:17:32

I think my issue is it is way more than I was anticipating paying for a pram (but we both loved it) so just trying to keep the cost as low as possible. But if I buy it in a colour I'm not happy with for the sake of £30 I know I'll regret it!

Mythreeknights Wed 30-Oct-13 12:27:16

nature do it! First child gets everything brand new, spanky clean, in the best colours. Second makes do. By the time you have a third, everything is broken so you buy complete tat second hand to 'get on by'. Once upon a time I had a Bugaboo. Now I have a £5 no rain cover, no basket, no brake, no reclining seat, shit, push chair. But it.will.do. hmm

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:30:05

I've had most other stuff second (third/fourth) hand so this is really the only new thing we are buying so I suppose I shouldn't quibble! Tempted to change the colour of the car seat now as well! Dh is going to think I'm mental haha!

TarkaTheOtter Wed 30-Oct-13 12:35:51

Really feel for you all with cuntpuffin bosses. I remember counting down the hours til maternity leave with dd. This time my boss is a dictatorial toddler so no maternity leave as such but at least I get a lunchtime nap (sometimes).

Mythree I've been getting cramp in my feet and legs. It's normally when dh steals all the duvet. I've started wearing bed socks which helps a bit but I think sleeping with socks on makes me have more anxiety dreams as I overheat so debating bringing the spare duvet up so we have one each.

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 12:39:57

My boss was once a dictatorial toddler too. In the form of a mid-50s woman grin

TarkaTheOtter Wed 30-Oct-13 12:41:10


MrsAVB Wed 30-Oct-13 12:51:07

Oh sultana that's very sucky. I've been amazed at how many of us have had crappy experiences with our employers. Maybe I'll care less once baby comes but my career is really important to me, and even just going on leave and having to sort child care disadvantages us without all the other crap. Sigh.

amandine07 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:53:09

Hi everyone, just found this thread!smile

Am due 11th January and don't know anyone around me who is having a baby as well, really nice to just read throught the posts & see what symptoms people have been having, struggles at work trying to sort out Mat leave & generally feeling knackered!

Has everyone sorted out ante-natal classes?
Am feeling v disorganised!
Me & OH are planning to attend the hospital ones late November...am still dithering about doing NCT!

Most women have said to me it's more about making friends with people in the same position as you, kind of like paying for mates...but I'm thinking that the £200 or more could be put to much better use!

Frizz1986 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:56:53

mrsa and sultana can't believe your bosses either!!!
Sometimes you really want to just tell them where to shove it and that you won't be wasting your time coming back but then you know you have to be nice to try and get the best deal on your return if you do come back.

nature you should go for it if you can afford it. I kinda wish we had been able to go out and enjoy picking a pram, but maybe we'll be the ones buying new for our second instead of our first. And to be honest its really not that much price difference for the colour you want. In the grand scheme of baby spending it is a drop in the ocean!

Frizz, MrsA and Sultana FFS your cuntdonkey bosses are ridiculous. They really need massive kicks up their collective behinds. I am VERY good at kicking - could work on a pro bono basis, if you like?

To be fair to mine (cuntdonkey boss), he was great the past few days, promised to cover everything if I couldn't make my Friday deadline (I can, phew) and told me to stay with DH as long as I needed. I guess all bastards have a heart!

nature get the colour you like. You have to push it around, every day for up to two years, maybe longer. It's worth it - work out the per day cost grin

Frizz1986 Wed 30-Oct-13 13:04:56

welcome and congrats amandine

I have gone to NCT classes and am really enjoying them. It is a lot of money and to be honest I went to make friends and although everyone is lovely, people don't seem to be keen on meeting afterwards just yet. There is still time though. I am quite shy and think maybe others will meet up and it's just that I am not putting myself out there enough.
Its great to meet people in RL who are going through the same things as you. It can be a bit of a giggle and I am still glad that we have gone for them as our NHS ones don't start until November and if they arent good itll be too late to go to any others.

Sultanajo Wed 30-Oct-13 13:22:00

Frizz and MrsA arghhhh! Exactly! Would LOVE to say something, BUT I may well need some sort of job to come back to and I would effectively be cutting off my nose to spite my face for just a moment of satisfaction!

Toby loving your comment!

Humpty boss kicking - yeah!!!

Welcome Amandine! I too thought £200 was a lot of money for NCT classes, BUT with only two of our sessions left I have to say personally it was one of the best things I decided to do. Partly for DH, so he could meet Dad's to be and learn about what is going to happen, but also because despite not really going to meet friends in the area, it has actually happened and the others are really keen to keep meeting up! Frizz what a shame your lot aren't that keen yet - ours only really spoke up last night and said "we only have two left so let's still meet up on a Tuesday night shall we for drinks/food?" I think it probably takes one or two people in the group to be proactive about it.

Last night we had her previous class come in to talk to us about their experiences - their babies are now around 10 weeks old. I found it so useful and very reassuring!

Peanutsmummy2be Wed 30-Oct-13 14:00:04

Hi everyone

Just recently joined this site & love it already! So nice to be able to 'chat' to other expectant mums grin

Im due 12th Jan with first baby but getting induced 2 weeks early.

How is everyone coping with pregnancy?


TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 15:44:13

Hi newbies smile

Hello peanuts and amandine.
If you want to add your EDDs to our stats thread then we can all stalk you encourage you when you're next in the queue. grin

Amibambini Wed 30-Oct-13 17:20:18

Hey there. Just found this thread, thought I'd say hello and introduce myself.

Pregnant with first child, a girl grin, due Jan 5th.

I live in London with my awesome partner on a little dutch barge that we are madly trying to finish before the arrival of our new crew member.
Have been pretty lucky with my pregnancy so far, very little ms, hasn't really impacted on my life in any way (apart from no more boozing!), still feeling pretty nimble and normal, though I do get slightly more puffed out on my bike, and having to eating A LOT of Rennies.

Fun side-effect, my face is much hairier! I have blond mutton chops!

Halfway through hypnobirthing classes, about to start NCT next week.

Haven't bought ANYTHING yet, no pram, no sleeping paraphernalia, nothing!

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 17:35:44

Hi Ami! You and I are due date twins smile
How cool to live on a barge!

I don't think you're the only one who hasn't bought anything. We've got the pram and a car seat but nothing else!

extracrunchy Wed 30-Oct-13 18:02:36

Welcome, Ami, Peanuts and Amandine!
Ami DH and I lived on a boat before we had DS but had to move because landlady didn't want children and wouldn't renew our lease. I miss it so much!!

flyawayblue Wed 30-Oct-13 18:25:21

Sad to read that others have horrible bosses. Sultanajo MrsA & Frizz Agree with Humpty that a good kicking is in order. Mine hasn't even got documents to HR yet for advertising my cover. It just won't happen in time even though I told him at 3 months. It's just stupid and as I lead a team appalling for them as they may be without a line manager for a bit.

* Sultanajo *I'm also worried about changes to my job while I'm off but can't believe the nerve of discussing it like that!

Mythree also woke up with cramp this morning - not nice! Sadly quite a regularly thing for me at the moment, hope it doesn't become regular for you.

nature Go for the green. It's not that much more and it will make you smile later.

Welcome to Amandine, Ami & Peanuts smile Ami love the sound of the barge - always wanted to live on one.

I'm really tired this week, could go to bed when I get home tired. Cutting back on hours at work, well working nearer to the 35 I'm pain for than the 50 I was doing but still knackered and now things aren't being done.. Need to workout how many weeks I've got left at work and then shout at boss some more.

MrsGSR Wed 30-Oct-13 18:32:59

Welcome to those who've just joined!

We've bought hardly anything, were given a moses basket but need to buy a pram and new mattress etc

I had really bad cramp a few nights last week and over the weekend. Since taking my iron tablets (28 week bloods showed I'm slightly anemic) I haven't had any. Might not be related but I hope it lasts!

Percypiglet Wed 30-Oct-13 18:40:50

Mythree I had cramps almost daily in the first trimester and first half of second trimester (way too early, as they say you are more likely to get it in the 3rd trimester). They kill. I was often out of bed well quick, swearing like mad and waking DH up! Very ladylike. It helped me to eat bananas and do stretching calf exercises each day. I also notice that if I stretch out my legs too quickly in bed that's when I am more likely to get cramps, so I gingerly stretch now! Might help you?!

I was naughty today and had a lie on my back this morning - it was soooooo nice. Life is strange when I consider this a luxury!!

Welcome newbies...

quackojuliet Wed 30-Oct-13 18:45:48

Evening all and welcome newbies!
We had a 3d/4d scan today, groupon deal in london. We had a good view of our little miss asleep,then blowing rasberries and opening her eyes, was amazing! The sonographer put the 3d on for a view of her girly bits at which point I felt we were invading her privacy somewhat...
We've got our first antenatal class tonight so looking forward to that. Its been a very babycentric day!

sarahleanne Wed 30-Oct-13 19:01:33

hello newbies wow 3 new late comers all at once, the group is growing.There must be loads of us now.

I have bought most of my stuff without even realising it.I just need a breast pump, car seat and ummm I think that's it? I need to go through what I have when i'm on leave.

I asked DH on the phone today if he thought I had spread sideways with this pregnancy as someone at work said I looked chubby hmm , he said it in jest but it's made me a bit paranoid. DH went quiet then said ' well your bigger than when you had DD'. sad.He then tried to redeem himself by saying 'but it could be because the babies lying across your belly and not head down' haha.
I'm scared to stand on the scales!!

Some cuntpuffin twats have vandalised DS's school and DD's nursery,bloody idiots! All their outdoor equipment is ruined now!

Re leg cramps I've had them about 3 times now so not too bad but my god I've never moved so fast out of bed in my life.

Babies body part is stuck right under my ribs but I cant work out which part it is? maybe a foot? which would be good as it means perhaps it is turning around a bit. But it definitely doesn't feel head down as I don't have that head between legs shit ahhh kind of pain yet.

I havn't bothered with nct classes but that's probably because i'm on my third. I went to them with my first but don't remember much blush

ooohhh DH is hopefully home tomorrow yippeeee that's not a sarcastic yippee smile

Naturegirl82 Wed 30-Oct-13 19:07:45

percy don't feel guilty for lying on your back. My scan on Monday lasted an hour and a half and I was lying on my back that whole time. Consultant didn't seem fussed.

Welcome to the newbies. smile

By some miracle it looks like I might actually meet my work deadlines tomorrow despite some inept colleagues who apparently can't use a word template! I'm still amazed at how much they messed up the formatting!

I'm in the tired club too but trying to power through to get the house tidy as we have visitors at the weekend.

Oh and I'm going for the green grin Thanks everyone. I feel I can treat myself given the stress of the last week smile (although I will be changing the colour of the car seat as well now! Ha! smile )

Hope rubbish bosses pull their fingers out soon for you all.

TobyLerone Wed 30-Oct-13 19:28:28

I lie on my back often, and sleep on my back for most of the night.

Angelesque Wed 30-Oct-13 20:09:34

Hi newbies!

Ami how's hypnobirthing going? We start our classes in two weeks.

Also had a horrible day at work. So frustrating and exhausting... Another 2 1/2 months to go, boo!

Also had leg cramp for first time last night... Woke up with massive calf pain, but just pulled my foot back and it disappeared... Weird!

Amibambini Wed 30-Oct-13 22:17:23

Yeah what is it with the leg cramps? I have to be careful stretching in bed at night because it triggers a big YOOOWWWW in the leg area.

Thanks for the welcome ladies! Have added myself to the stats page.

Waves at TobyLerone hey fellow birth date twin!

Extracrunchy - ah that's a pain that your landlady was anti-kids. Yeah some people can be quite negatively opinionated about the idea of raising a child on a boat. Sucks to be them. Where was your boat and what kind was it? It's never too late to get back onto the water!

Angelesque - hypnobirthing classes are going ok. Some of it is a bit hippy dippy and I have to hide my eye rolls at some of the examples of mind over matter reasoning. Like really? Poor people are poor because they don't 'Think Rich'? Bitch please. But aside from some of that foolery, I do appreciate the whole fear equals pain thing and trusting that your body knows the way to give birth, so work with it instead of against it. My partner and I definitely fall asleep easily while listening to the relaxation recordings so they seem to work, thigh I'm listening to one about positive birth affirmations while typing not sure if that's the right way to do it. Anyways, my slightly cynical self is giving it a go because I've heard so many consistently positive stories about hypnobirthing from very level headed women.

Frizz1986 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:46:29

Welcome toall the newbies. Glad you managed to find us crazy lot smile

Nct class tonight was really good and just felt really relaxed. Everyone seemed to be much more chatty which was really good although i am knackered now and keep thinking about a burger king (damn food thougts)

nature glad u went for the green you would have only regretted ir it otherwise.

I love falling asleep on the sofa as i am propped up on my back. I think its my best sleeping experiences now. I wake up loads in bed and have sore hips and have to turn over, then i realise that my if i lie on my left my hip hurts within 5 mins so its straight back onto my right where i just have to deal with the discomfort as best i can.

Cant wait for the weekend when we do the nursery and i am finally going to get some non underwired bras. I have just been wearing all these old ones that used to be too big but know that i prob should be going for some non underwired ones to help with the milk ducts etc.
Anyway m&s do a pack of 2 fairly cheap so am going to nip in and try some sizes on this weekend.
When are we supposed to get nursing bras? As surely my boobs are gonna explode once the baby arrives and they fill with milk but its not like i can go get measured then.
Also thinking of seeing if i can get a mega cheap nightie for my hospital bag in primark or something.

quackojuliet Wed 30-Oct-13 22:56:56

Frizz I got a 2 pack of soft cotton nursing bras from m&s that I've been using for past 2 months with no complaints, course my boobs will get bigger when milk comes in but hopefully these will be useful at some stage. Thought I may as well buy nursing if I have the choice and they're very comfy - spotty ones.

Our nct class was good, its a friendly group and we quickly got past the anxious first few introductions... DH was cynical at first but think he enjoyed it more than me and practically skipped out! Am glad he's feeling more involved now and its less abstract for him.

extracrunchy Thu 31-Oct-13 00:10:07

Haha Ami "bitch please" is my favourite phrase grin
It was the lower deck of a barge in Brentford. So so nice living on a boat. Think we might consider moving back onto one in a few years if we can afford to buy. Do you own yours?
I miss waking up to the fire boat rocking the crap out of us and maybe moorhens living on the deck! And we had the best parties. We were legendary.

extracrunchy Thu 31-Oct-13 00:11:30

Baby moorhens not maybe moorhens.
And our cat loved it. He used to sit in the tree on the bank like a leopard and stalk things.

chocoloulou33 Thu 31-Oct-13 07:41:03

Morning all and hello to the newbies!happy halloween everyone thlsmile

We got our pram yesterday yeyyyyy. Our first big buy. We got the mothercare xpedia in black. I wanted blue but oh wanted red. After a 5 min domestic in shop we had to compromise with black.

in other news I had my whooping cough and flu jabs on Monday. One in each arm. Not sure what one was which but one arm is still aching now. Not as nad as I thought though as I hate needles. Also got my blood test results and am anaemic so am on iron tablets now.
Day off for me 2day so have got some stuff to do for the kids as they want to go trick or treating 2nite. Hope you all have a good day x

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Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:05:46

Nature and choco yay for pram buying! Loving the domestic and the compromise of black choco! Nature - definitely choosing green was the right thing to do....

Mythree I have only had a few leg cramps, but when I have had them OMFG! They make me leap out of bed (as best I can) and stumble around the room trying to get rid of it. I have however worked out it tends to happen if I stretch out in bed like Percy, so I too now stretch gingerly!!!

Flyaway Grrrr! It just pisses you off when you give them plenty of notice and then they faff around and cock it all up! FFS! Mind you, your comment saying "horrible bosses" reminded me of the film "horrible bosses". Has anyone seen it? I thought it was hilarious and it would give me some great satisfaction to watch it this weekend!!! grin

Welcome Ami and peanuts! Ami your "bitch please" comment cracked me up!

Sarah stupid idiot vandals! That's just awful!

Frizz glad your NCT class was good and everyone was more relaxed. It definitely takes a few weeks for that to happen, but ours also seem to be getting better every week in that respect....

Quack loving your DH practically skipping out of the first NCT class. That's exactly what I found my DH did, although the novelty is starting to wear off with him a bit now, so glad we only have one more with the boys involved....

Happy Halloween! Here's to a better day all round!

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 08:06:47

Morning, morning, morning choco! Black sounds like a good compromise, I'm going to get 'shadow' which is basically grey.

I'm a little worried this morning. Had a migraine yesterday (which I've had twice before but not for years) but had some strange symptoms like pins and needles in my left side and half my face went numb! Popped into the walk in Centre and was checked over by a GP who said he thought it was just a migraine and to take it easy today. asked me a few times if I'd thrown up, which I hadn't at that point. Last night I threw up twice and am feeling generally crap this morning. I don't want to go back in incase its a bug, baby's moving around as normal but I'm a little worried.

flyawayblue Thu 31-Oct-13 08:17:32

Morning all, hope the night was free of leg cramps and everyone had a good rest.

Wet and child start to the day here and so want to be back on bed. Worked our I have 7 weeks of work left smile and am now a mix of very happy and scared.

We have most of our big purchases done as getting a lot from friends & family only things for me left.

Silly question but bigger breasted people what are you doing for maternity bras. I've cheated so far and used old or to big bras but not going to work for much longer!

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:17:38

MrsG what did he say the significance of throwing up could be?

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:19:49

Flyaway as a bigger breasted lady, I have been using non-wired total support bras from M & S. Not the most comfortable bras by the end of the day, but they have got me through so far and I expect they will continue to get me through until I need nursing bras....

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 08:23:23

flyaway I've been remeasuring myself every few months and bung cheap wired bras of eBay, I've started looking for non wired/nursing bras but there aren't that many for larger boobs!

sultana he didn't say, it just worries be that he asked so many times! Then again he asked if I could manage a urine sample 3 times so maybe he's just forgetful!

MrsVDB Thu 31-Oct-13 08:26:58

flyaway I have found after lots of searching m&s to a moulded tshirt bra up to a gg. I'm normally a h but went up a back size and it fits well. I'm not a fan of non moulded but can't find anything in h upwards so will have to give up soon I expect

Hello newbies

Toothfairy78 Thu 31-Oct-13 08:28:13

Ooh! Welcome ami, peanuts and amandine! So nice to have 3 newbies at this late stage. Major bonus!

I had good news yesterday. Having patched up with Mr Mardy pants who was in a strop with me, me and my boss moved desks to a nicer bit of the office where there are some women! Boss offered to take the end desk so he's not in between a bunch of women yapping! grin

OK I'm still stupidly overloaded and underpaid but hey, I get office buddies with better hygiene!

Hope everyone has a good day!

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:28:58

MrsG Lol! Did he ask you why you were there three times also? grin I would be tempted to just call the surgery and see if you can speak to a doctor for some further advice.... As you say, it may just be a bug and it may be your GP had forgotten he had asked you, but at least that way you can get some reassurance....

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:30:27

Woop woop tooth for a better environment! Every little helps....!

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 08:36:29

loulou, you really wanted us to know that, huh? wink
I wasn't interested in buying that pram at all, but the blue colour almost made me buy it anyway because it was so lovely! I'm sure it's nice in black, too.

Flyaway, I'm an F cup and have been wearing my normal bra with a back extender because the cup size is still fine. I cannot bring myself to wear non-wired bras because monoboob is such a horrible look! Think I'll look at hidden support vests for the first week or so of breastfeeding, until my milk is in and I know how massive my boobs will be. Then I will get some nursing bras.

MrsG sounds exactly like a migraine to me. I sympathise. They're horrible! flowers

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 08:37:56

Yay for a nicer working environment, tooth!

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:44:13

Toby monoboob! grin I was really worried about monoboob too, BUT the total support bra I found in M & S separates them nicely. NOT quite as nice an overall shape as my underwired bras (so on special nights out I have popped on an underwired one), but generally it doesn't look too bad....

Here it is in all it's non-sexy glory.... www.marksandspencer.com/Support-Non-Wired-Floral-Embroidered-Crossover/dp/B000KS5KH0?ie=UTF8&ref=sr_1_5&nodeId=43248030&sr=1-5&qid=1383208972&pf_rd_r=0CJGY573HNXENTHBNEDM&pf_rd_m=A2BO0OYVBKIQJM&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_i=0&pf_rd_p=321381407&pf_rd_s=center-3

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 08:46:23

I also have this one.... www.marksandspencer.com/Jacquard-Lace-Total-Support-B-G/dp/B002EDV40G?ie=UTF8&ref=sr_1_23&nodeId=43248030&sr=1-23&qid=1383209085

They both used to be white until DH dyed them an attractive shade of grey!!!

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 08:50:04

tooth glad some things at work are improving!

I think it was just from the migraine, I haven't had one for about 7 years but remember throwing up then too. I think I'll leave it until lunch then ring if I'm still feeling rough.

I hope everyone has a good Halloween smile DH had hidden the sweets as I stole a few yesterday!

chocoloulou33 Thu 31-Oct-13 09:03:35

Sorry it posted so many times. My phone is terrible for this site. It tells me its failed when it hasn't.
Its the fact oh didn't want blue coz blue is for Chelsea. What an idiot. So he wanted a red one as he is arsenal. I literally could of killed him there on the spot. Sales assistant didn't know what to say lol.

MrsAVB Thu 31-Oct-13 09:19:26

Morning all,
Welcome ami, amandine and peanut!
choco, I know you like to fill up the thread... But... wink
humpty how is DH today?
Re. Bras, I am a 30f, the best ones I've found have been the m&s wireless nursing bras in a 32e, the ones with padded cups, but then I'm someone that refuses to pay loads for bras, so you can prob do better in posher shops. If I don't have padded cups I end up looking like Miranda in that episode of sex and the city where she wears the fake nipples. I was thinking hidden support vests to begin with too toby, I wear them in bed anyway. Have you seen any with nursing clips and adequate support? I've been looking but have only seen either flimsy support with clips, or proper support without clips. But I guess if they have thin straps I don't really need clips. Hmm...

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 09:38:37

Thanks, sultana. They're no less sexy than any other bras in giant cup sizes!

loulou, I'm actually amazed that you managed to have sex with that 'man', let alone choose a pram with him! grin

MrsA, I hadn't actually thought far enough ahead to care about clips! I'm not sure I knew you could get proper nursing ones.

MrsA he's fine, thank you - being a bit of a twat, actually (told me to stop worrying about him, when he was rushing about - the DAY after he leaves hospital, FFS, then when I got upset, said 'it's not all about you'), so must be on the road to recovery.

Any progress with your work situation? It's SO crappy to be left hanging for as long as you have been.

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 10:41:11

Choco I can JUST imagine the scene! DH is a massive Liverpool fan, but we have ended up with a blue pram because it was £100 less than the rest. I don't think he thought about the Chelsea side of things, but then again our blue is more of a denim.... I certainly won't be bringing it up however! wink

Humpty your DH is clearly on the mend! wink

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 10:48:01

OMG, DH just said I was waddling as I was walking! blush Shite! Mind you, bump feels MASSIVE today and my lower back is killing me and I could sleep at the drop of a hat! Feel as though I want to sit on a giant beanbag (although would never be able to get up from it...) or spend the day in a swimming pool! Roll on the weekend!

Spacefrog35 Thu 31-Oct-13 11:51:13

mrsg sorry bit late but he might have asked you about the being sick thing so many times as it's quite common to be sick with migraines. Lots of migraine medicine has an anti nausea ingredient but the most common one you can't take when pregnant. My doc swapped my migraine tablet prescription when she knew I was ttc.
Or maybe he's just a dozy bugger wink

twinklexx Thu 31-Oct-13 11:52:09

hi all
can i join in a bit late to the party?
im due 29th jan with my first so got a little while to go yet smile

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 12:14:49

Welcome twinkle smile

I think he was just dozy space! He was lovely though.

MrsVDB Thu 31-Oct-13 12:40:20

sultana I definitely waddle now. Said to dh the other day 'I'm must be swinging my arms more when I walk than I was as I keep hitting people' he said (without looking at me so must have thought it before) 'yes your properly waddling now'!!!

I can't find nicer bras in posh shops which are padded h or above. I've been to rigby and peller a few times and tried on everything in bravissimo. So went with the m&s one tshirt bra I'm also not ready for underwired. I think as long as they fit ok should be fine

TarkaTheOtter Thu 31-Oct-13 12:41:47

Hi twinkle!

I'm still in regular bras too toby. I think because I've lost weight and it's not been that long since I last stopped feeding I've not really changed size.

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 16:00:42

I forgot to say, on the first aid course last week the guy told us about a 'baby and chid first aid' app the Red Cross have released. I'm only just downloading it (as I forgot!) but he really recommended it, and it's free smile there's a general first aid one too.

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 16:21:06

Hi twinkle smile

I will get on that, MrsG. Thanks!

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 16:29:27

grin MrsV

That's awesome MrsG! Thanks. Have just downloaded it! How are you feeling?

Sultanajo Thu 31-Oct-13 16:29:58

Welcome Twinkle by the way. smile

flyawayblue Thu 31-Oct-13 18:26:46

Toby nearly spitting out my juice over monoboob, brilliant!

MrsADB we sound quite similar normally a 28gg but now wearing the r&p 'fitting' 30g .. don't want to spend bravissimo prices for something that will change so quickly.

Will give the m&s links a go and try the t-shirts with in built support again - never found them very good but them never had a reason not to wear underwire before.

On the useless boss front I had the head of HR asking me when I was off and if they were replacing me today as he hadn't seen anything. I work for a London uni so not normal for the head of HR to query things! Hopefully this will kick useless boss up the arse...

Also got to meet one of the new people they have employed to do something that isn't my job at all but that I've done for 5 years. Funny how they've ignored me saying it's another job until I go on maternity leave and they get scared no-one else can do things...

Toothfairy78 Thu 31-Oct-13 18:27:29

Wow! 4, yes FOUR, new ladies!

Congrats, welcome and how nice to have you to twinkle!

humpty I take it DH is in good spirits then? grin

I had my 31 week visit with the lovely lady Dr today. ToothJr has head down, right down at bottom of the bump, squiggling and kicking. Fundal height 32cm so spot on. Everything else is in order too.

mrsG this first aid app sounds good. Think I'll go investigate!

flyawayblue Thu 31-Oct-13 18:28:13

Hi twinkle and thanks MrsG will have a look smile

BookTart Thu 31-Oct-13 18:28:57

Happy Halloween everyone! I've spent the morning getting married, and now we're watching horror films and waiting for trick or treaters grin

I was a G cup before I got up-duffed so am now officially HUGE, and I've struggled to find anything even vaguely nice, underwear-wise. I've got a couple of non-wired bras from M&S, a couple of old-lady style Triumph ones, and a great black set from Hot Milk. Does the name of that company squick anyone else out, or am I just being weird?

puggle01 Thu 31-Oct-13 18:34:25

Hi flyaway By R&P do you mean Rigby & Peller? Gosh I thought they were superexpensive (having never looked) and just grit teeth in Bravissimo and get card out. I've rationalised it in my head as G and above bras need much more construction and fabric than your fiddly little A+B cups not that I'm jealous (34/36G just now, used to be 34E)

How does it work with nursing bras then? Do we just buy a couple of cup sizes up and hope for the best? Can't imaging anyone wanting us in their shops with screamy 3 day old babies getting measured....And what if there was a bit of leaking when you were trying them on? eeeuuugghhh

Hi to all newbies by the way

puggle01 Thu 31-Oct-13 18:35:41

Booktart congrats - cool wedding date
I am totally icked out by Hotmilk. Bleugggh. I can only assume the concept was a task from The Apprentice at some point

Toothfairy78 Thu 31-Oct-13 18:37:19

Ooh congratulations book! thankswine

And yes I'm not sure about the "hot milk" name either. Not sure why.

Percypiglet Thu 31-Oct-13 18:48:02

Had my 28 week midwife appmt today and finally saw the same midwife! Anti D injection in my bum - was expecting it in my arm but nevermind! Recorded the baby's heartbeat for my DH, still sounds like a galloping horse! so cool. Measuring 2 weeks under but the midwife didn't seem worried.

Arent you meant to get measured for nursing bras at 37/38 wks - I think the shop assistants just guess but maybe there is more to it than that!!!

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 18:48:21

Congrats, Book! Lovely cake, btw grin

Hot Milk grosses me out too. I bought a dress from them and it came with a hanger and any time I hang anything on it I'm vaguely disgusted.

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 18:51:18

You have no idea how big your boobs will get when your milk comes in, Percy, so I can't imagine how you'd get measured before that happens.

Once it comes in (at 3-ish days), your boobs will be enormous and like rocks. It's best (IME) to wait a week or so (it's not like you're likely to be going many places in the meantime, so you can make do with vests or something) until they settle down a bit and then get measured. Or measure yourself then and order some online.

Percypiglet Thu 31-Oct-13 18:51:40

Yes, sorry Congrats Book.

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 18:52:12

When I say "you have no idea" I don't mean "you're an idiot", btw blush

I mean you're probably right that the shop assistants guess!

I'll shut up now...

Percypiglet Thu 31-Oct-13 18:52:44

Boobs like rocks sounds disgusting. This does worry me! Sure I read somewhere like mothercare about going to get measured beforehand, all seemed a bit like random guesswork, like you say!

Percypiglet Thu 31-Oct-13 18:53:24

I didn't take offence!!

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 18:53:51

Good grin

Angelesque Thu 31-Oct-13 19:00:24

ami glad to hear hypnobirthing is going well and you've gears good things... Going to have to steel myself to ignore anything like "poor people think poor", I mean, WTF?!!!!

Angelesque Thu 31-Oct-13 19:02:44

...and congrats book! How exciting!

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 19:03:19

Congrats book smile

I'm feeling a lot better thanks sultana smile

Percy the assistant in moderate told me I should be measured at 38 weeks for nursing bras too. They don't do my size in store anyway so I'm going to wait and see what happens! Currently a 34H, I'm glad my backsize (phone tried to correct to backside, I'm not glad about that!) has finally gone up as finding cheap large bras in a 30 was a nightmare.

I'm quite impressed with the app, have downloaded it onto DHs phone to!

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 19:03:49

*mothercare not moderate

Percypiglet Thu 31-Oct-13 19:10:58

Squeeze ladies! Why am I so crap at remembering to do my pelvic floor exercises...?

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 19:16:47

Thank you percy, I keep forgetting!

So many cute trick or treaters tonight! DHs cousin has put a picture on Facebook of her one year old as a pumpkin, awwww!

flyawayblue Thu 31-Oct-13 19:23:05

Congratulations book brilliant wedding date.

puggle Yes rigby and peller but I really don't rate them. They measured me to big across the back so where never comfortable. I kept them as they where expensive and glad I did as fitted brilliantly for the last few months.

Going to go for support tops I think as the m&s ones don't go down to a small enough back. Or try a back extender until I end work as don't want any monoboobs (tm) at work.

TarkaTheOtter Thu 31-Oct-13 19:27:34

At our bfing group we recommend getting fitted at 38 weeks as a good indication of what size you will be when you have a 2 week old. Nothing is going to fit well when your milk first comes in as your boobs will be ridiculous for a bit but it should settle down. Ignoring those few days 38 weeks should give you a reasonably accurate measure of your cup size. Only thing that might change is your back measurement as your rib cage might shrink down a bit so better to err on the tight side than the loose bizarrely. IMO worth buying 1 or 2 at 38 weeks then seeing what you like/what size you are once your milk settles down a bit. Also not worth buying loads in case things don't work out with bfing.

We sell the bravado range and they do these vest tops with support so you can just pull your outerwear up and your stomach is still covered. Alternatively hm and primark do cheap stretchy vests that have long enough straps to pull down or you can wear a normal strappy best backwards so the low bit is at the front.

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 19:31:17

Wow, those vests are expensive!

BookTart Thu 31-Oct-13 19:41:54

Cheers everyone smile We've had a record number of trick or treaters this evening and have nearly run out of sweets. I was planning to eat the leftovers later, but I don't think there will be any thlsad

The hot milk name is grim, but I have to say I love the stuff I've got. It feels really nice and doesn't look dowdy like all my other maternity bras. I got it all cheap on Casabu, so it didn't break the bank thankfully.

TarkaTheOtter Thu 31-Oct-13 19:43:02

The cost price is significantly cheaper than that. That's just the first website I found. We sell them for about £24 I think which includes a few pound donation to our charity.

TobyLerone Thu 31-Oct-13 20:03:56

Book, we've got a whole bowlful of fun size Milky Ways/Mars bars. We've had no trick or treaters at all sad
You're welcome to our leftovers!

I got a Hot Milk non-wired bra from Casabu and it's awful for monoboob sad

That's slightly better, Tarka!

extracrunchy Thu 31-Oct-13 20:05:51

Welcome twinkle!

Huge congrats, Book! And yes, Hot Milk is just wrong.

Those looking for good support tops - I've been given some awesome ones made by GlamourMom. Not sure about the name for these either but they have clips and an amazingly supportive built in bra bit. Highly recommended! Would advise maybe a size up as I got a medium and they fit fine in most places but a bit tight round the back.

GummiBear74 Thu 31-Oct-13 20:16:44

Hi everyone! May I join the influx of newcomers? My EDD is 14 Jan and this is our first, so we're getting far too excited! We're team pink (not that I approve of the boy-girl blue-pink thing).

I've been stalking you following this group for a while now and it's been really encouraging to hear about people going through the same aches, pains & embarrassing bodily functions as me! Finally felt that it's time to delurk now.

Congrats to book, what a cool wedding date!

GummiBear74 Thu 31-Oct-13 20:19:40

By the way, book, feel free to come round and help yourself to our left over sweets - we've had no trick or treaters either. I bought a whole bucket of mini Haribo bags - if any are left by then, perhaps they'd be good for energy during labour?

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 20:27:53

We've got loads of sweets left too, but only because I sent DH out to get a few more bags when we almost ran out.

Bluecarrot Thu 31-Oct-13 20:27:58

I'm making breastfeeding tops. First type is a vest top with a circle cut out where my nipple is , and wear it under another top (obv!) The second I saw on Pinterest- cut a spaghetti strap a few inches from where it joins at the front. Can be removed at the back. Make it into a loop and hook over the bra nursing clip. Hope that made sense. Google DIY nursing top and you are bound to come across a tutorial (I'm on phone and can't link!)

Plus I plan to use the boob tube type things supposed to cover pregnant belly.

Toothfairy78 Thu 31-Oct-13 20:31:40

Wow! 5, yes FIVE new ladies!

Count them with me...one new lady, ah ha ha ha...two new ladies ah ha ha...

And so on and so forth...Congratulations and welcome gummi!

Hmm, the haricots has made me think...I'm thinking isotonic, lucozade type drinks. Or maybe some bright orange Viper which I used to use for big sports events for the hospital bag. What are your reckonings?

Toothfairy78 Thu 31-Oct-13 20:33:06

*haribos not haricots FFS stupid auto correct, who the hell would give kids legumes on Halloween??? Mutter mutter.

extracrunchy Thu 31-Oct-13 21:17:12

In my experience Lucozade or other energy sweets are better than drinks - less sicky I found and a lot less to consume for the same effect. Also I think I read sucking sweets can be good as you get a dry mouth.

MrsGSR Thu 31-Oct-13 21:50:58

My sister used to live the Lucozade glucose tablets, they're pretty tasty so I'm planning to have some of them in my hospital bag. The Halloween sweets definitely won't last until January!

hello all the new people and happy halloween!

We've had quite a few trick or treaters tonight, but DS went out trick or treating with his friend (I played the 'too pg to walk around in the dark and cold' card - result!) so brought home a whole load more junk to replace what I'd just given away. Most sweets aren't veggie anyway, so I can't even steal them!

I bought a couple of nursing bras last time at 38 weeks, but they were never quite as good as the ones I bought when things had settled, so totally agree with tarka about only getting one or two. I haven't got the chest for a monoboob, even when BFing, sadly, so those vests are ideal for me! <no chest emoticon>

Hope everyone is well and happy.

Frizz1986 Thu 31-Oct-13 23:33:13

Huge congrats book Hope it was the best day!

Welcome all the newbies smile

enjoying i am the same as you on the lack of boobs front. They are the biggest they've ever been but still tiny. At least i wont struggle to find bras to fit now.

We haven't had any trick or treaters but we only got 94p lollies so didn't waste any money.

Dh has been secretly painting the nursery and he showed me tonight as he was really excited with what he had done, i cried! He has done really well and we have now got our stickers on the way for the walls.

This weekend i am going to town to get everything for my hospital bag and then on sunday we might put stuff up in the nursery!! 30 weeks tomorrow, yay!! (oh crap)

extracrunchy Thu 31-Oct-13 23:39:38

Aw Frizz that's so sweet of your DH! Exciting now you can turn it into a little bedroom too smile

extracrunchy Fri 01-Nov-13 00:18:53

I can't sleep cos feel like I'm going to barf and have done all day. Waaaah. Can morning sickness come back at 32 weeks..?! Bleurgh.

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 05:59:17

How sweet, Frizz smile

Ugh, enjoying. Poor you. Hope you feel better after some sleep.

I am envy of the small boobs.

GummiBear74 Fri 01-Nov-13 06:42:50

Nobody is ever happy with their boobs! I was so excited when I got measured at 16 weeks to be told that I'd gone up 2 whole cup sizes, from A to C. 'Normal' sized boobs at last! Not much progress since then, and they're dwarfed by the bump, but small pleasures, eh?
So the advice is to go for the support vest thingies at first? Good thing, no one in their right mind would go near the shops to be measured in late December when loads of us will be 38 weeks!

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 06:45:14

no one in their right mind would go near the shops to be measured in late December when loads of us will be 38 weeks!

Excellent point!

Naturegirl82 Fri 01-Nov-13 06:53:42

congrats book

That's so sweet Frizz. Sounds like your Dh is feeling a little better about things as well.

All I have to add is TFI FRIDAY

MrsVDB Fri 01-Nov-13 07:15:23

Congrats book how exciting!!

Had my 28w growth scan yesterday and all is good, head measured 29w (which I'm not too keen on) but all other measurements were spot on. Following the extremely reliable curve ill be having a 7lb 7oz baby. As dh is 7ft (although I'm only 5ft 2) I was expecting a whopper!

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 07:38:31

Ummmm, right, first things first... Book you don't just casually mention "spent the morning getting married" and then move the conversation on...! You say "Well....guess what ladies..... I GOT MARRIED THIS MORNING!!!" [WINK] I had to triple read your message to make sure I wasn't imagining what you had said. HUGE congratulations!!! What an amazing date to get married! Woop woop! [party popper emoction] grin

flyaway OMG another useless boss! WTF is going on???

Tooth and MrsV great your measurements came out as they should. Don't panic about the large head MrsV. I have been told I will have an 8 or 9 pounder, but hoping they are wrong and he is more like 7!!! wishes she could follow her own advice about not panicking!

MrsG glad you are feeling better. Phew!

Percy I ONLY remember to squeeze when someone mentions it! Absolutely rubbish I am!!!

Welcome Gummi! Your name has just given me a craving for Haribo Gummi bears! grin

Frizz bless your DH painting your nursery and surprising you! Awwwww!

No trick or treaters our way so far, but the guy delivering our Chinese last night thought he would be funny by hiding the food behind his back and saying "trick or treat". Then when I gave him the money he pretended to walk off saying "that's your trick and my treat"! [Rolls eyes emoction]

TFI Friday! Roll on 5pm!!!

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 07:41:31

Oh and the lady who measured me at M & S for bras last time said to come in a few weeks before I am due to get measured for nursing bras. I can't imagine I will be in any sort of state to go to M & S at 38 weeks!

Do you know what they should do - start up a home measuring service for new mums!!!

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 08:18:36

Just measure yourselves.

This is how to do it properly. Then order online. No Christmas/January sales fighting necessary!

MrsAVB Fri 01-Nov-13 08:40:01

Welcome and congrats twinkle and gummi!
book congrats! Hope you had a fab day!
Boobs are such a nuisance... Sigh! Although I guess I'll be grateful for them if they provide free food for baby for a while!

BookTart Fri 01-Nov-13 09:30:37

Cheers sultana! We only had four guests and I forgot to tell my dad so I'll need to do that today. Whoops!

I also fancied some gummi bears when I saw gummi's name, until I read the reviews on these shock. Wish Id have them for the trick or treaters though mwahahaha!

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 09:49:33

Did you get married in the registry office, book?

Spacefrog35 Fri 01-Nov-13 09:57:47

Wow! Congratulations book awesome date grin & I love the fact you forgot to tell your dad, nutter wink

Hello newbies. thanks

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 09:59:20

Thanks Toby. I had tried measuring myself before and got it completely wrong each time blush Will defo be trying again this time though!

Book OMG! One of the reviews cracked me up! RUN!!! grin

BookTart Fri 01-Nov-13 10:09:52

Yep toby in the horrible, ugly library. All done and dusted by 11am, perfect smile (although obviously a librarian getting married in a library is a bit tragic!)

Cheers space! Hope your MIL is behaving better now.

De-Halloweening the house this morning and then breakfast I think. What is everyone else up to today?

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 10:15:11

We had to go there to do the pre-marriage malarkey. They could have at least tried to make it look a bit less...clinical.

Totally would have done the same as you, though, if it had been up to me smile

Congratulations book! Can't believe I missed that, sounds like a lovely, lovely day smile smile

AnotherStitchInTime Fri 01-Nov-13 10:34:02

Congratulations booksmile

Hello to all, welcome to more newbies smile

Still in hospital, starving as having GTT test for diabetes this morning. Had US scan, showed further problems with placenta so waiting for an MRI scan. Also have polydraminos (too much amniotic fluid around baby) and baby may possibly have a bowel obstruction so got to have another US scan in two weeks. Stressed and fed up now, they won't let me out until after the MRI and there is only one scanner in the hospital so long waiting list grrr.

Sorry for the moan, glad all is well with everyone. What did you all do for Halloween?

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 10:49:15

Another really sorry you are having such a stressful time! Poor you! Not surprised you are fed up! Small consolation that they are at least thoroughly checking everything, but the waiting just drives you nuts doesn't it!

How can we cheer you up a bit? Well, I could tell you that while DH and I were chilling out on a double recliner at the spa on Monday, I grabbed his hand to feel bubs moving, and two seconds later I did the biggest fart EVER which reverberated through the recliner AND his hand on my tummy! OMG! blush The look on his face was a picture! I was as surprised as he was as I hadn't felt it brewing at all! It just happened! I had NO CONTROL whatsoever! Wonder if that's a side effect of the haemorrhoid I discovered last week? Oh the glamour! wink

MrsVDB Fri 01-Nov-13 10:58:33

Oh dear another that can't be fun but at least they're checking everything

sultana that just made me chuckle and took my mind off the new stretch marks I've just found above my belly button

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 11:25:28

Boo hiss stretch marks MrsV. So far mine are above my hips and one above my belly button. Could be so much worse so just hoping I am lucky and that's my lot....

extracrunchy Fri 01-Nov-13 11:45:17

Another sorry you're having a crap time. Hope all's well on the scan. brew

Sultana that just made me laugh out loud!

MrsV yes stretch marks just above belly button here too! Some will disappear back into the currently absent belly button though I hope...

Naturegirl82 Fri 01-Nov-13 11:55:50

Another sorry your having so much stress. Have they said what the implications of the possible blockage maybe? I hope you get scanned soon, the waiting just makes it more stressful.

sultana that made me laugh out loud! Haha!

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 12:14:34


Lalunya85 Fri 01-Nov-13 12:29:57

Hello everyone! It's been so long I haven't been on here, university degree and full time job are proving to be a bit much for me at the moment!

Plus dh and I have finally started getting a few things sorted (like preparing the house, moving furniture around) and have bought/received a few things by now. I got two big boxes of reusable nappies in the post yesterday, and couldn't take my eyes off them. It really made me realise that we will have a real, living baby in the house in less than 3 months. I still find the thought unbelievable sometimes!

Got a question about moses baskets: we got a hand-me-down one from a friend, and are planning to use that as baby's first bed. I've ordered a new mattress as the one it came with looked super thin and I didn't like it much. I also bought some mattress protectors and getting mattress sheets should be easy, too. But what about getting some paddings/covers for the basket itself? The one we have seems to have a "hood" option - can we buy just the material somewhere? Is it expensive? Our basket is a bit smaller than the usual size (69cm I think), so most materials might actually be too large? Any experienced moses basket users among us? Would love to hear your views. Do you actually NEED padding/material on the sides? And a hood?

MrsGSR Fri 01-Nov-13 12:45:14

flowers another, I hate waiting around, but as someone else said at least they're checking everything. We stayed in last night and watch Harry Potter, we've been watching one each evening as DH thinks he's not seen one of them but doesn't know which!

Frizz1986 Fri 01-Nov-13 12:55:46

another sorry you are having a pants time. At least they are doing things to try and figure everything out. The waiting must be tough tho. Hopefully you will be first in the queue soon enough and can get some answers.

Lol sultana I tried a sneaky one in the kitchen at work whilst my curry was heating up. I thought it was my best chance as the curry would conceal any smells. Thankfully I think I got away with it! DH just makes a face at me when I do it at home as it seems to be all the time blush

layluna I havent even got my borrowed moses basket out of the bin bag my sister gave it to us in so I am of no use to you. I don't even have a stand yet and am not sure if there is a decent mattress in the bag either.

TarkaTheOtter Fri 01-Nov-13 13:05:39

I don't think the fabric is essential lalunya and it's really hard to replace unless it's a very standard size.
Probably cheaper to buy a 2nd hand basket with fabric inc anyway as the cheapest replacement covers I found when looking for dd's basket were £15-20.

Hope your having a big lunch now Another and your GTT comes back clear. Also hope the MRI provides some answers thanks

Lalunya85 Fri 01-Nov-13 13:30:37

tarka - that's the prices that I saw as well - pretty steep for a bit of fabric. I might just improvise something with bits of cloth... Thank you!

another - hope the results put your mind at rest a bit - at least you will know what's going on and the doctors will have a better idea of how to keep you and baby safe and happy! I went through a similar ordeal in the hospital a week ago - spent 7 hours waiting for different tests, with the word "cervical cancer" firmly in my head (gynecologist had scared me to death). I ended up bursting into tears in the middle of the corridor, crying my eyes out on the phone to dh. It can be really stressful. But at least it's Friday, and you can relax for the rest of the weekend. brew

MrsAVB Fri 01-Nov-13 13:37:48

lalunya we have the same issue, I bought a Moses basket from a charity shop, it has a hood and fabric edging which we've washed and is fine now. Mattress and sheets we've got from mothercare (they have 20% off bedding at the mo), but we were hoping you could buy a bundle in the same way you can for bigger cots, but haven't seen any anywhere.
another hope you have had your MRI, all is well and they let you out! Hospitals are very annoying sometimes...

Naturegirl82 Fri 01-Nov-13 14:00:15

Yippee just ordered my pram and new car seat smile. Managed to get the shop to price match for the green and they had the car seat and base on offer (cheaper than I had originally bought) so managed to get it for only £16 more. And I have had £75 of vouchers to use for the shop for the last 6 months so put that towards it as well, so have ended up spending far less cash than if I had stuck with the red. Very happy. Now just have to wait 4 weeks for it to be delivered!! grin

Afternoon, ladies!

book MASSIVE CONGRATS! That is awesome, how lovely and romantic. Ah, this thread has everything now - weddings and babies. My life is complete <closet Richard Curtis fan> grin

another sorry you're still having a rubbish old time of it, you poor love. What do you have for entertainment? Can we find amusing YouTube videos for you? Do you have a tablet?

Day off today, thank CHRIST. I was at the end of my tether yesterday. I think I'd never really calmed down from that feeling when DH was in hospital, in surgery, and I was on my own in the flat, convinced he was going to die and I was going to be left all alone <weeps dramatically>.
So much better for a lie in and good breakfast.
DH has v sweetly made a scale plan of our new house, with furniture to scale, on Powerpoint, so I can have fun rearranging the furniture and seeing what else we can cram in need.

space I meant to ask - which day is the funeral next week? I want to be sending good vibes on the right day. How are you?

MrsVDB Fri 01-Nov-13 14:34:37

humpty what a great idea my afternoon at work is now sorted we are turning our spare bedroom into baby room so have to fit in day bed, 4 door wardbrobe, chest of drawers, cotbed, baby wardbrobe and baby chest with changer on. The room is only 3.3m x 3.4m with windows taking up a whole wall, chimney breast and fireplace on another and 2 doors on another! Think I need to plan!

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 14:54:03

MrsG I LOVE Harry Potter! What a fab way to spend a few nights! I feel inspired to start my mat leave doing something like that now! Woop woop!

Frizz well done with the kitchen and the curry! Was soooo glad the whopper at the spa didn't smell - that would have been AWFUL! I was walking behind my mate in a super market once and let one rip in an empty aisle, just as she decided to turn around and head back up the aisle because she had forgotten something! She has NEVER let me live that one down!!! grin

Bless ya Humpty. I don't think sometimes you realise how worried and stressed you have actually been and suddenly it all gets too much! Great you have a day off and also have a powerpoint to play with!

Have made my list of the things we still need to get baby wise. Plus I have added the words "hospital bag stuff" but haven't actually decided what is needed yet. Am 32 weeks today so things are starting to feel really quite real all of a sudden! Ekkkk!

Spacefrog35 Fri 01-Nov-13 15:50:57

Hope things are going ok another thinking of you thanks

Bless you * humpty* it's on Thursday. We just met the guy who is going to do the service for us. He's lovely which is a massive relief. He's a padre which makes me feel really comfortable as he's practical. I was absurdly worried we were going to end up with someone earnest & wet which wouldn't really have suited me. An army vicar is much more my brew. He's also absolutely ok with not wearing his dog collar so MIL won't have a clue he's a 'proper' vicar grin

Hope everyone else is doing ok & is making sure none of those left over sweeties from last night don't go to waste wink

Spacefrog35 Fri 01-Nov-13 15:53:08

Oh dear. Why does this place not have an edit button blush.

Apologies for a non bold humpty & an excessive amount of double negatives. Hopefully you can figure out what I meant blush

MrsGSR Fri 01-Nov-13 16:00:26

Will be thinking of you Thursday space. I hope it all goes well.
I've made a good start on the Halloween sweets smile DH has just taken them off me or I 'wont eat my tea'. I think he's practicing for being a dad!

Spacefrog35 Fri 01-Nov-13 16:21:52

Lol @ MrmrsG that's too funny, bless him smile

space I don't mind being non-bold - I think in real life I am more than bold bolshy enough to make up for it!

Thursday - will be thinking of you then. Glad the padre is practical and not floppy-hand-shake type (I'm thinking of the Eddie Izzard sketch about the CofE?), so much easier to deal with. Do you have music? Have you chosen what you'll have? I don't want to pry, but am genuinely interested, if it's not intrusive.

MrsG do you have to eat all your main course to be allowed pudding as well? grin

Powerpoint thingy is AMAZING. Do it, ladies. You just have to do the maths of how the measurements scale down (ours were divide by 10, multiply by 4, for example), then you use the 'Size and Position' menu when right-clicking on a shape you've drawn, to make sure the furniture is to scale too. We've decided to make a different bedroom the main one on the basis of what can actually fit in on this plan!

sultana I think that's exactly what it was. Yesterday I felt I couldn't get through the day. Today I feel so much lighter, helped by a snotty cry all over DH last night and him reassuring me that he's still around.

Spacefrog35 Fri 01-Nov-13 17:17:03

Not prying at all. It's really nice to be able to talk to people about it. I sort of feel like I shouldn't be 'burdening' people with constantly talking about it, which is sort of difficult as I don't really have anything else to talk about at the moment!

We're going to have 3 pieces of music. Haven't decided on the 'entrance' piece yet. The piece in the middle is going to be Hendrix's Little Wing. When Idris had all his tubes and stuff in they had to put little splints on his arms that he used to flap about. He looked like he was off to compete in a Birdman event so DH used to sing little wing to him. The 'leaving' piece will be Hootie & the Blowfish - Hold My Hand. Idris loved holding hands with us & it's one of my favourite songs. Also it's quite uplifting & I want people to leave feeling happy if that's at all possible.

We've also bought loads of those little bubble wands you get as wedding favours. He liked blowing spit bubbles (gross I know) & it used to make us giggle so we want everyone to blow bubbles for him. Hopefully it will make people smile. You can't be sad & blow bubbles!

Weirdly I'm kind of looking forward to it. Also it will be nice to have him settled & be able to go and visit him. I've really struggled with not being able to go & 'see' him. I think once I've got a place to go then that bit will become easier.

Sorry seem to have written a small essay blush

TobyLerone Fri 01-Nov-13 17:55:49


Mac2014 Fri 01-Nov-13 18:06:45

space that is lovely. It sounds like a really perfect funeral. ( Odd to say I know). Please feel free to talk about all of it. That's what we're here for. So amazed by your strength!! Massive hugs (slightly snivveling ones!) And both HTH for Thurs!

Mac2014 Fri 01-Nov-13 18:09:44

book you are bonkers and I love it... Dropping the FYI got married this am...into conversation must be v satisfying - lots of interesting reactions.
Congratulations!!! You must be v excited.

Toothfairy78 Fri 01-Nov-13 18:14:25

Hi all,

Well I was gonna gripe about how shit a time I've had at work and how miserable and tired I felt this evening but then I saw sultana's fart story and I'm happy again!

book are you gonna tell us all about your wedding then!

I'm off to read all your posts properly now...see you in a bit!

MrsGSR Fri 01-Nov-13 18:14:59

Aww, space that does sound perfect. I love the idea of blowing bubbles. I have a pack of bubbles left over from looking after our nephew, I'll blow some on Thursday and think of Idris, if you don't think it's intrusive. Feel free to talk about it as much as you like x

I didn't manage to finish my tea, but DH still gave me a mini milky way smile He's hidden the others though sad

Percypiglet Fri 01-Nov-13 18:30:09

Sultana you made me laugh so much with the fart confession. My bump was jiggling around so much from laughing, think baby wondered what was happening.

Space glad you are feeling positive about the funeral and have it all planned out. Completely get your need to have somewhere to go to "see" Idris. Will be thinking of you on Thursday.

Thank goodness it is Friday, I am flipping knackered..........Got Monday off so long weekend to look forward to. Am pram, cotbed and bedding ordering tomorrow for baby and chest of drawer ordering for us, bit of a spend up but am making the most of the various sales on at the mo!

Enjoy the wkend all.

space that sounds absolutely perfect to me. Love the music choices and the bubbles are fab! Totally appropriate way to remember Idris. I think wanting people to leave uplifted is a great idea, and something my Mum has said she wants from her funeral, so I totally get where you're coming from.

Also, having somewhere to visit - that makes perfect sense to me. It's a bit up in the air now, isn't it? I guess you must want to talk to him, and think of him, but without a particular place to do it, it's a bit hard. In the same way as when you were pregnant with him, you probably directed any chat/strokes to your bump. I get it.

As Mac said, do talk about it - I think we all get it. And I know I like thinking I might be able to help a tiny weeny bit by listening/reading. Plus, you're one of us, and we all talk about whatever we want to, them's the rules, no? grin Is there anything else we can do to help? Hire you an anti-MIL bodyguard, p'raps? grin

Toothfairy78 Fri 01-Nov-13 19:22:32

another sorry to hear you're hanging around in hospital. You're in the best place and FX they fix you and LO up soon.

space really glad to hear funeral is planned. Sounds like it'll be beautiful and totally apt.

And awwww to mrfrizz for painting the nursery. You both had a tough time and that's such a lovely thing to do.

Right, if sultana's farts haven't been enough to cheer you up or you'd like to test your pelvic floor then this is for you:


Happy Friday folks!

Sultanajo Fri 01-Nov-13 19:26:08

space your plans have just made me bawl because it sounds so unbelievably perfect! It will be an amazing day and having somewhere to visit afterwards will be really helpful. Will be very much thinking of you on Thursday! grin

BookTart Fri 01-Nov-13 19:29:20

space that sounds absolutely lovely and totally appropriate.

How's it going another? Hope you aren't too bored.

Honestly not much to tell about wedding tooth - it took 20 minutes, we only had 4 guests (3 parents and 1 brother), I wore black, he wore jeans and army boots, there was no music or anything, then we all went to the pub for lunch. It was excellent!

My bump has been really uncomfortable today. It keeps going hard for an hour or so at a time (so not BH I don't think). I think it is because her back is to the front of the bump so it feels harder, but I don't know. Anyone else get this?

GummiBear74 Fri 01-Nov-13 20:18:31

Thanks for the autocorrects, tooth! The one about chicken vaginas made me laugh so much I cried, and then blood started pouring out of my nose shock

Is anyone else getting loads of nosebleeds?

space, I've found your story so moving, your strength and dignity are amazing. The funeral plans sound perfect.

MrsGSR Fri 01-Nov-13 21:14:13

tooth I'm getting weird looks from DH for sniggering at that link!

gummi I haven't had any actual nose bleeds, but (TMI) I have noticed blood on the tissue after blowing my nose a few times, which hasn't happened before.

DH has bought us tickets to a fireworks display tomorrow night, I'm really excited and hoping the weather improves!

space you really are amazing. What a perfect send off for your lovely boy. I'll blow bubbles for you on Thursday too xx

Frizz1986 Fri 01-Nov-13 21:54:50

space the funeral sounds just right. It will be a lovely way to remember Idris and i think the bubbles sound like a wonderful idea <welling up>
Never feel like you cant share anything you want to, its exactly what this group is for, we are all here for each other, no matter what.
Ill be thinking of you on thursday.

book i have had the hard feeling a lot in my bump. I think it is bubs leaning to the front and its v uncomfortable. My bump has felt really heavy today, i think the 3rd tri is really hitting me.

So dh finished touching up the nursery today and i came home to find it all finished, cleaned and hoovered and the cot built. I cried again!

Have just booked me and dh an xmas treat......the hobbit at manchester imax! Cant wait and we can go round the xmas market afterwards and stuff our face with treats. I will be 36 weeks so itll be hard going and its the day after my work xmas meal (but i wont stay late) so ill be tired but then itll be my last week at work so hopefully i wont be doing real work! Have booked aisle seats so i can escape to pee lots.

sarahleanne Fri 01-Nov-13 22:52:52

space I hope Thursdays goes well for you. Will be thinking of you all day xx

another I feel for you.I had a long hospital stay pregnant with DS and hated it.

I'm off to check out tooths link grin

sarahleanne Fri 01-Nov-13 22:55:11

PMSL skittletits I'm actually lolling!!

Toothfairy78 Sat 02-Nov-13 09:14:13

Eep, gummi nosebleeds?

A few weeks back I had the odd bit of blood if I blew my nose. But only tiny spots.

wa wa skittletits! LOL!

Right, i think a spot of breakfast is in order. Then, off shopping for a keepsake book for friend who is retiring this month, costco shop for cake ingredients ( it's my birthday this week and colleagues need cake) and maybe a few bits for my hospital bag. I've already got the disposable bits all prepacked through some bounty offer, soooooo convenient!

Have a good day kittens!

BookTart Sat 02-Nov-13 09:33:31

Thanks frizz, sorry you're having a hard time too, but it is less of a worry when someone else has the same thing smile

gummi, I haven't had proper nosebleeds but Ive had the same as tooth every bloody day since about 8 weeks. It is rank.

Porridge scoffed, I'm off for a day out by the sea somewhere before it starts raining again. Hope you all have lovely Saturdays!

flyawayblue Sat 02-Nov-13 09:57:34

another Hope the MRI went well and you have done answers.

space I am welling up at your plans, it sounds beautiful and a lovely way to remember Idris. Will be thinking of you all on Thursday.

I get the hard bump to and it does seem to be when she has her back to the front of my tommy if that makes sense. Also get the outs inside kicks when she's like that. At the moment she's sideways and keeps kicking me down by my lest hip - very odd.

I think the nose bleeds are due to the increased blood volume and I've had a few little ones. Midwives didn't seem concerned but mine weren't bad.

Still so tired all the time, going to try and find the energy to exercise as I hope it will make things better.

Frizz1986 Sat 02-Nov-13 10:40:29

So i have purchased my nightie for the hospital bag and am about to get some more bits in an attempt to complete it.
How do u all know how ur babies are lying? I can't tell at all and only know it's moved when my belly goes hard in one area but I never know how it's moved. I've even prodded the bump and can't feel anything in there!

Sultanajo Sat 02-Nov-13 10:54:05

Morning ladies! frizz I only know how bubs is lying because I had a scan a couple of weeks back and the mw had a feel this week (which really hurt btw!)

Well got up early today, washed my hair, tidied the house, made a healthy breakfast and now feel as though I could go back to bed! blush Just waiting for a package with my first bits of xmas shopping to arrive, then off food shopping - joy! wink

GummiBear74 Sat 02-Nov-13 10:59:56

frizz, I've been wondering the same! I only know that mine's head down because I had a scan last week. I think she may have a great career as a contortionist ahead of her, though, judging from where I can feel movement!

Mostly I've just been getting the blood in the tissue thing too, but laughing too hard, crying, or throwing up (how to make morning sickness even more fun) can set off a proper nose bleed. I think it's normal, so I haven't been worried.

MrsGSR Sat 02-Nov-13 12:21:20

I also have no idea which way baby is. The top of my bump is usually bigger than the bottom but the bottom is bigger now. No idea what that means!

Bless Mr*Frizz*! That's so sweet!

AnotherStitchInTime Sat 02-Nov-13 14:07:43

Hey all, still no MRI, bored. GTT clear though so no diabetes smile

Space the funeral plans sound lovely and very fitting. Thinking of you all x

I find the harder bigger lump is generally the head, the more wriggly smaller lump is the bottom/hip. You can also tell a little by where the baby kicks. If the kicking is in the middle to upper part it generally means head down. If kicking is towards your cervix, breech position likely

MrsGSR Sat 02-Nov-13 14:13:24

another great the the GTT is clear, I hope you don't have to long to wait for the MRI.

I think baby is punching me as well as kicking, but the stronger ones are at the top so hopefully that means she's head down. I could see my whole stomach moving yesterday, DH thought it was really weird!

I hope everyone's having a good weekend so far smile

BookTart Sat 02-Nov-13 15:08:39

frizz I have NO idea, and neither does my midwife. My last scan said she was breech, but both midwives swear her head has been down for weeks! I don't really get any kicks (I assume she's kicking inwards), just occasional squiggly movements and sudden urges to wee, which I guess means something is pressing on my bladder!

Had a lovely day today by the sea in Rye and Dymchurch. Only when I pulled into my road did I realise that we should have been at ante-natal class all day. Shitshitshitshit. The midwife is going to kill me isn't she? I'm booked onto NCT as well, but that isn't until 35/36 weeks so let's hope she doesn't arrive early!

Good news on the GTT another, have some cake while you wait for the MRI!

Toothfairy78 Sat 02-Nov-13 17:20:43


Good news the GTT is clear another! Hopefully they'll scan you soon. Sounds rubbish being stuck all day waiting and worrying. Xxx

I think ToothJr has been head down the entire time. The doctor showed me how she felt for the head this week. She said it was hard to tell on some women if they have a fair bit of muscle which means you need to press firmly so maybe frizz and book you still have good tummy muscles!

Today was a success, got 2 nighties a couple sizes too big, buy one get one half price at M&S. Did look at Mamas & Papas but nothing short sleeved and wasn't going to pay £28 for a nightie that'd be worn only a few times.

Also got other bits I was looking for but the big success was finding Reading now has a Five Guys in the Oracle! Perfect opportunity to placate/bribe DH for dragging him out. We had cheeseburgers and shared a regular fries. DH was very very happy! We decided if was the best thing since Mission Burrito and DH LOVES Mission Burrito!

Sultanajo Sat 02-Nov-13 17:23:38

Oops book! Did u get that cold sweat feeling?

another boo hiss for no mri, but great u got the all clear on the GTT! grin

Sultanajo Sat 02-Nov-13 17:45:54

Mmmmm! Robinsons Apple Squash with ice! Lush! grin grin grin

Tried to get DH to look at nappies today but he thinks its too early. However, did get some Fairy non-bio so I can wash all the baby clothes we now have. Almost also invested in Comfort Pure softener, but then got paranoid about giving bubs a rash if his skin is super sensitive so decided against it....

Frizz1986 Sat 02-Nov-13 18:26:24

tooth I got nighties today too. I got some mega cheapos from primark so I have them ready to get gooped on in hospital! Also got some non underwired bras from m&s and a million maternity pads from mothercare.
My hospital bags are now half packed and the rest of the stuff is in the wash. Just need to pack going home clothes (I'll go in pjs if i have to), toiletries and nursing bras (which u aren't supposed to get yet) I even have £ coins ready for the car park.
It's so silly that in 1 day my hospital bag is practically done! Feeling much better now about it.
Have even washed the cover for the chair my sister loaned us for the nursery and the cover on the bouncer seat thing. Nursery is looking nice and tomorrow I just need to clean up the pram, car seat and baby bath.

Sultanajo Sat 02-Nov-13 18:41:22

frizz I am itching to get on with bits like you have. I may make a start next weekend and primark cheap nighties and large pants are top of the list! grin

Angelesque Sat 02-Nov-13 19:39:24

FINALLY getting on with sorting stuff. Crib bought today, ordering travel system tomorrow. Bootees, hats and scratch mittens purchased - also now have a complete outfit for baby (including fleecy suit with #ears) - feeling much better. Still faaaar behind you lot but slowly catching up!

Hospital bag is the next thing on the list!!!

Naturegirl82 Sat 02-Nov-13 19:48:26

I've almost finished my maternity bag as well. Just need to find an old nighty to give birth in. Bought myself new pjs with easy boob access and baggy bottoms today. Got changing bag and all my toiletries as well I think. So good day. But the bugger parked next to me had scratched my brand new car when I got back to it (someone else had left a note on my car to tell me!) so I've left a note on their car asking them to call otherwise I'll go through insurance. Got photos of damage to mine and their car and evidence they were parked next to me so bit of a downer.

another yay for the no GD, boo for the no MRI.

book ooooooops. Oh well - they must have had baby brainers before, right? grin

Anyone still need a cot? We just bought this one - £61.50, gets great Which reviews, full price £130 odd. Also £10 off with a Vouchercodes code (£10 off £50 first spend), and 4.5% cashback through Quidco - works out to under £50!!

I'm so chuffed - my DM found the deal for us, so wanted to pass it on.

I also ordered our new kettle, toaster and microwave today, using JL vouchers from our wedding.

Might treat myself to a nice overnight bag for hospital bag in celebration, methinks.

Frizz1986 Sat 02-Nov-13 23:08:28

humpty i have also been purchasing today. After getting my mat pads etc i have just gone and bought a changing mat, muslin cloths, a baby sleeping bag, a baby blanket, car sun visors, baby bath thermometer and some fitted sheets for the moses basket all for £45 off ebay.

I have also pigged out on so much Chinese that i feel so unbelievably uncomfortable!! Big mistake!

GummiBear74 Sun 03-Nov-13 08:07:41

Now we all seem to be shopping like mad, in case you're interested, Mothercare have a breast feeding kit thing including electric breast pump and storage containers, reduced from £150 to £100. Considering that they also have 15% off if you spend £100 online, this seems to be a bit of a bargain. I think the pump sells for about £100 on its own!
I figured that I'll be able to make some money back on ebay if I can't use it for some reason, and I've already taken the nipple cream and breast pads out for my hospital bag. smile

Bluecarrot Sun 03-Nov-13 08:30:25

Who was it that couldn't use lanolin? Have a look into virgin coconut oil as an alternative for nipple cream. I've seen it mentioned a few times now.

I'm pretty much packed except for my last minute things. But I'd better not go into labour anytime soon as DP has helpfully buried my bag under other stuff as we cleared our bedroom. ( currently sleeping in the living room while our room is redone... Not just talking a bit if wallpaper here. The ceilings and walls are being pulled down, insulation added and it all plastered. Actually wondering if it'll be done before baby comes!) I'm not allowed in it as possible lead in the old paint, not to mention goodness knows what in the roof space.

So I spent this week buying stuff for the nursery. Looking forward to getting started with the sewing for it next week. Everything will be from scratch as DP chose colours that people just don't mass-produce nursery bedding in!

This week though ill be buying in for our bedroom and getting my dd psyched up for the transfer test ( 1st of 3 happens next Saturday here in NI- not sure what happens in rest of uk) She is expected to pass and get into the excellent grammar school down the road, just worried she will get too anxious on the day and flop! Though I may be more anxious than her...

Percypiglet Sun 03-Nov-13 09:45:39

Hello fellow shoppers! We have also been spending. Finally, after much deliberation, ordered our pram, cotbed and changing unit yesterday - taking advantage of the various sales.... Also went to our friend's house last night for dinner and they loaned us their moses basket and stand. The house is looking suspiciously like a baby might arrive in the next few months now!

Enjoy your Sundays one and all.

GummiBear74 Sun 03-Nov-13 10:29:48

So our nursery furniture arrived about 10 days ago. Since then, I've been frantically painting myself and everything around me the nursery, in the hope that one d