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December 2013 - creeping closer but no more hospital stays please god!

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LadyMedea Wed 23-Oct-13 22:24:29

We are a chatty lot!

NomDeClavier Wed 23-Oct-13 22:32:37

You do realise you're tempting fate with this title, right?!

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 22:48:19

Thanks for the new thread, I'll actually try to properly keep up with this one!

I was admitted to hospital last night with my 8th episode of reduced fm. I was feeling such an idiot, I hate going up but when the wee man stops moving what else can I do?

I was sent for a scan (11th scan, had enough!) this morning and everything looks fine, but when I got back to the ward there were 8 doctors waiting to speak to me to tell me that "we don't think you're crazy, it happens sometimes" and that they want to induce me at 37/38 weeks. I'm 34+4 just now. So in about 2-3 weeks.

Oh my god. They don't actually let you leave the hospital with them, do they?

PinkWitch803 Wed 23-Oct-13 22:48:47

Tempting fate indeed smile

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 22:50:33

Also, welcome dizzy smile

itsliz Wed 23-Oct-13 22:56:05

Thanks for the new thread, Lady smile
Can't believe how chatty we are! How many threads is this now? 5...?

I had no idea about cord clamping until now so thank you so much mum.
I'm really worried that I'll forget all of this useful info in the heat of the moment, so do you think it might be the sort of thing to include in my birth plan? I haven't really got a plan as such, just wondering if it'll make any difference being written down...

Big hugs for Lady and meandbumpy - it's so inspiring to read about how strong you both are. All of those things are hard enough to cope with as it is, without everything else on top! Although it's horrible at the time, I really do think that the tough times make us and our relationships stronger...
When I first met DP, he'd just come out of a long term relationship and had lost his job and I was being messed around emotionally by one of his friends, taking on too much overtime at work and struggling through my final year of uni.
I won't bore you with the details but we managed to make things work and just a couple of months later, we moved in together. I was terrified that things were moving so fast but in hindsight, I think we're much stronger for going through so much together so early on in a relationship smile

Ooh and welcome, dizzy! We don't mind at all - the more the merrier grin
Glad to hear you've had a nice straightforward pregnancy so far, fingers crossed things continue to go well!

Chelsealady Wed 23-Oct-13 22:57:38

I need help ladies!!!!!! For the past 2 weeks been having braxton hicks and the midwife said if i have more than 4 in a hour to call the hosp...well i am so confussed as i had one at 9 then another at 9.30 and then one at 10 and now im nearly crying in pain as iv had another which had lasted the longest and its the most painful yet. No bleeding or anything else....so scared as im actually on my own at the moment and i am only 30 +3 sad should i call them or wait and see???

Hooray, new thread!

The last one lasted nearly a month, if this ones the same then we'll have some babies on this one, yay!

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 23:05:12

Call them. They shouldn't be painful. Best to put your mind at rest.

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 23:05:48

Sorry, that was to Chelsea.

LadyMedea Wed 23-Oct-13 23:07:28

If they are painful - not just bloody uncomfortable from everything being squished - then call the hospital. I have a lot of braxton hicks but they never properly hurt... If they did I'd be calling maternity! They Can strap you up and see if they are contractions.

Chelsealady Wed 23-Oct-13 23:10:26

On my way nowsad i new as soon as my boyfriend left to go away for the weekend something would happen. This is the worst pain iv felt in my life let alone pregnancy!!! Ahhhh

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 23:11:31

Keep calm. Have you taken any painkillers? Did you call the mws?

BohemianRaspberry Wed 23-Oct-13 23:12:45

Agreed chelsea call them, you'll only get more upset if you don't. Who can you ring to help you? Let us know!

In random news, junior has the most dramatic case of the hiccups and I've just pressed the side of my bump to soothe muscles and had a little hand push back... feel all warm about that smile

PinkWitch803 Wed 23-Oct-13 23:19:01

Chelsea, keep calm and know we are here.

Bohemian, i am quite jealous. I assume it is because of my anterior placenta but I don't get to see many body part impressions, just lots of bouncing and ripples. Which are lovely but not easily identifiable smile

Chelsealady Wed 23-Oct-13 23:19:52

My boyfriends mother is on her way to meet me at the hosp. Called them they said come in asap...have had no movement from her with the last contraction and im feeling wet sitting im the taxi as i type...thanks for the support ladies. Im 19 and have no knowledge of what pain is what but i am really hoping baby is not on her way as i still have till 30th december left!

Stom91 Wed 23-Oct-13 23:22:00

Welcome dizzy!!

Chelsea hope you are ok! I ended up in hospital a couple weeks ago when dp was in Hungary!! He'd also smashed his phone so couldn't get hold of him!!
Let us know how you get on. I'm sure it's nothing to worry about xx

Can't believe it's a new thread already.
And can't believe how soon we will all have babies!!

LadyMedea Wed 23-Oct-13 23:22:43

Hang in there Chelsea. If baby is on her way she's got a very good chance of being fine.... Even if you end up in shock at her arrival!

BohemianRaspberry Wed 23-Oct-13 23:24:45

You're doing all you can chelsea hang in there. You are in the best possible hands xx

DaleyBump Wed 23-Oct-13 23:32:06

We'll be here for support Chelsea, just remember to try and keep calm. Everything will be fine.

13loki Thu 24-Oct-13 01:16:52

Hope everything is OK Chelsea

Relented and took a codeine so I could get to sleep around 8:30 last night - apparently standing in a science lab for 3 hours trying to stop children from squirting each other with chemicals when you have SPD and are measuring bigger than full term even though you are only 34 weeks is silly and causes pain. If Friday wasn't my last day I would have left work on Wednesday, since I was in pain before I got into work, even though I only worked a half day Tuesday. Unfortunately the drugs have worn off, and while I am not crying like I was before I slept, I can't get back to sleep now with the ache and not being able to lay in a position that doesn't hurt.

Half day at work today (woo hoo) but then I have to take DD to the health visitor to try to work out immunisation schedules. That gives me a wonderful workout for my (very bad) Swedish, since the health visitor only speaks conversational english. Luckily, most of the medical type terms are close enough for me to work out.

I had (massively) delayed cord clamping with DD. Possibly because the paramedic and ambos wanted to wait for the midwife who was "on her way" and she didn't come until nearly an hour after Lola was born. It was really nice because no-one else got cuddles (except hub who I think may have laid down with us) and we just snuggled and fed until MW got there.

PinkWitch803 Thu 24-Oct-13 01:58:41

13loki - may the force be with you. Just one more "sleep" to go before you finish. Try to rest even if you can't sleep. You can tale more drugs shortly.

NomDeClavier Thu 24-Oct-13 03:34:26

Thinking of you chelsea.

I'n quite excited for you daley. I know being induced isn't ideal and you must be really worried about these episodes of reduced movement but just think how soon you'll have your baby!!!!

itsliz that sort of thing is definitely worth putting into a birth plan. IMO a birth plan isn't so much for 'this is my birth all laid out so you just need to follow the instructional' but a) an idea of your wishes where you do have a choice (ranking the pain relief you want you want to try, delayed cord clamping, who cuts the cord, who tells you the sex if you don't know,managed third stage or not, skin to skin immediately after or not) so the MWs don't have to ask you lots of questions assuming all goes well and b) a chance for you to think about the less than desirable circumstances and how you'd prefer those situations to be handled. If you end up with an EMCS and baby goes to SCBU do you want your partner with you or the baby, for example. You can even create birth plan A, plan B etc!

Poor you loki sad Not too long to go now until you can rest up on ML!

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 06:49:57

Cheers for the new thread lady.

Hope everything is okay Chelsea.

Just a quick place Mark

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 07:51:49

Woken up and my head is pounding urgh.

Hope Chelsea is ok!?

Chelsealady Thu 24-Oct-13 08:11:46

Morning ladies, after a stressful and scared night i am fine! False alarm but they did keep me in just incase. The midwife was very helpful letting me know that they probably will get more painful...boosad and also got to see my little lady again and she weighs a massive 3.7 already so i have another growth scan at 34 weeks depending on how much she has grown then i may be having her early...hope everyone else is feeling a bit better as i know a lot of you were feeling under the weather! Im off to bed now as feeling very tired been up all night. X

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 08:23:40

so glad everything is okay with you and baby chelsea

I almost leaped out of bed this morning I felt so much better. Unfortunately my hips and back didn't let me so it was more of a slow roll over whimpering. Ah it's good to be free of the headaches.

I had a dream last night that me and feather had to find a special chocolate bar. I was in tescos and she came up to me and proclaimed "hi, I am featherbag and you must help me. I am on a quest to find the special chocolate" we searched everywhere in tescos but never found it.

hope everyone is feeling good this morning. <jumps around with pompoms> YOU CAN DO IT loki

violetbean Thu 24-Oct-13 08:26:55

Chelsea, so glad to hear you're ok, hope you're able to catch up on sleep today.

Welcome dizzy!

Slept pretty well last night despite 4 loo trips. Have a lot on today so that's a very good thing!

Thanks for the new thread Lady smile

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 08:31:41

Whisper I think I may have your headaches sad
Woken up and my head is banging!

Glad all is ok Chelsea x

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 08:35:44

oh no. I'm sorry storm try a hot shower, the steam used to help me a little bit. Also avoid caffeine, it made mine so much worse.

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 08:40:05

I will try that thanks.
Hopefully I'm just abit dehydrated so going to drink loads in the hope it helps abit.

kchapper5 Thu 24-Oct-13 08:44:53

Thanks for the thread lady
And really glad everything's ok chelsea I would of been very sarcastic with the 'reassuring' midwife.
stom I practically down pints of water when I've got a headache if that helps?
After my hospital trip with reduced movement the other night I have got my extra scan today. Im happy we are going to see bump again but hoping everything's ok. So fingers crossed I'll be giving you all a nice update later.

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 08:47:20

Fingers crossed it all goes we kchapper
I shall be downing lots of water !!

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 08:52:50

I've just been informed that I get to spend my birthday on my own. It's on sunday and somehow everyone has become busy with other things. DP is working from 7-9pm and my family are in cornwall for the weekend. How depressing is that?

I always find if I drink too much water I throw up storm but I could just be weird grin

good luck with the scan kchapper

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 09:22:51

Hi everyone! I can't believe how quickly this place moves! Must try and catch up!

I've decided my little monkey doesn't like Thursdays, last thursday I was in hospital for RM as soon as I got hooked up little one started wiggling. This morning little one is quiet again. I'm still working so trying to be as quiet as possible to pay attention to the wiggles!

Also waddled to the shop today and got a pain right at the front of my foof blush does anyone else get that?? Its the first time i've felt it I wonder if it's pelvic pain? - sorry I've posted twice here and I'm already talking about foof's! lol! grin

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 09:25:55

I get that too molly bloody hurts doesn't it? Don't worry about talking foofs with us. We don't mind grin

mumoftwoboysS Thu 24-Oct-13 09:41:12

Hi Molly foof- good word! I was going to mention the same. Sounds like it's SPD pain. I Have had it with previous pregnancies but only at the end and not enough to incapacitate me. I've had the same pain the last day or so.

I can't keep up with this thread so sorry for missing people out! chelsea glad all is ok and baby is staying out for now!

Regarding my last post- hope the info (tho a bit biased!) was useful re cord clamping. Whoever asked if it should be on the birth plan- definitely! And how you want your 3rd stage to go as well (delivery of placenta) you can have it 'managed' or 'natural'. With ds1 I had it natural then it didn't budge and had to have it managed with an injection, lots of tugging by midwife- was a bit traumatic and was terrified of it becoming retained but luckily it came free eventually. 2nd time round I was worried about that happening again so had a managed 3rd stage and it all happened easily and quickly. This time I'd like to try for natural again as sounds like its much better to let my body do it as nature intended but I may change my mind!

Worried now about the whole cord clamping thing- maybe I'll mention premature cord clamping (when cord round babies neck) when I go in but am worried I'll sound like some hyperchondriac/worrier!

froubylou Thu 24-Oct-13 09:42:27

Morning all.

I keep getting a stabby fanny too. Usually on the school run. Or in bed at night just as I am drifting off to sleep.

I have a scan too later. Only a growth scan as DD was a titch. Picking up DD from school at 12 and we are going for lunch then she is having a look at her baby brother. She is finally getting excited about things.

Will be interesting to see what position he is in and if I am right. I think he is head down and currently hiding behind my placenta which is anterior. He was lying on the right hand side until the other day. Must admit it felt very bizarre when he moved over. Like my insides were swishing about!

Hope all of the poorly folk feel better soon!

mumoftwoboysS Thu 24-Oct-13 09:46:18

Chesea I meant to type that baby is staying 'put' for now, not out! Grr. Typing with iPhone is so frustatjng- spend half my time correcting stuff!

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 09:56:19

haha so glad I can talk about this on here. I am definitely walking slower! Was REALLY uncomfortable last night and quite breathless, definitely going downhill fast here!

chelsea glad baby is staying put!! Little monkey!

froubylou would love to know where my little one is - was breech last week and I really don't think there has been any change in position! Need to get little one to wiggle in the next two weeks!!

MrsShrubs Thu 24-Oct-13 10:04:44

Just marking my place, going to go catch up smile

Glad to hear everything is ok chelsea

Thank god DD has finally stopped puking! Back to being her very cheeky self, as long as there are no setbacks I will be able to put her in nursery tomorrow and start on the massive list of jobs I had been putting off until my maternity leave started.

I haven't got around to istening to my natal hypnotherapy cds once yet, better get a move on, 35 + 1 today!

Going to have to take her with me to midwife appointment this afternoon, hope she behaves herself grin

MrsShrubs Thu 24-Oct-13 10:19:30

Welcome dizzy

Glad you're okay now chelsea and hope you manage to get some sleep today.

Cannot believe how quickly we are going through these threads, thanks for the new one again Lady grin

molly I've been having pain in my foof too when walking and it happens when I attempt to try and cross my legs too, as someone else says I think it's SPD setting in.

Little boys not really moved so far today, had one or two movements but that's about it. I've got my MW appointment at 2pm today anyway so if he's not woken up and given me a good kicking as he normally does by then I'll have a word and see if I need to go to the labour ward.

Chelsealady Thu 24-Oct-13 11:32:10

Ahhhhhhh after last nights antics i now have a huge issue is there anyone who has gone through housing or knows anything about it? Because i ring them and they are hopeless!!! sad i will have no were to stay once my daughter is born!

Featherbag Thu 24-Oct-13 11:40:25

Ooh, new thread,

Whisper that sounds like a very worthwhile quest! Did I have a waist in your dream, cos that would be nice!

34 weeks today! One more week and I won't mind if DS decides he wants out. Rang the hospital this morning to check the time of scan/consultant appointment on Monday and I'm so pleased I did! I'd been told 4.30, and DH has arranged to leave work early based on this. I don't know what made me call to confirm, but apparently the consultant appointment is at 4.30, the scan is at 3.45! No one has mentioned anything about 3.45! So DH is now frantically trying to get away earlier still, as he's missed the last 2 scans and this is more than likely going to be the last one. And I really NEED him at the appointment as this is when the ELCS will be scheduled, I'm not a small amount terrified!

Just waiting for DS to finish his nap and eating biscuits then we're off to the park for a picnic with nana.

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 11:57:48

you looked lovely in the dream feather I Was very jealous. Long brown shiny hair and a beautiful red dress and heels. I felt very underdressed waddling round tescos with you in my pyjamas grin

I feel poorly again today. A bit like I am hungry, but when I eat I feel sick. If I sit forward I get pains in my bump too. i'm not worried though, just a bit fed up of feeling like crap. I would have lked to have gone and done something productive today but looks like another day sat knitting.

ooh hope your DP can get away from work feather i'm quite jealous of your picnic.

glad your dd is feeling better clare

hope baby gets a wriggle on soon mrsshrubs it's always worrying isn't it?

NomDeClavier Thu 24-Oct-13 11:58:32

Good luck for later feather

Glad baby is staying put for the time being chelsea. Don't let them bully you into induction because they think baby is measuring big in a scan. They're notoriously unreliable. Do, on the other hand, ask them to check you for diabetes because that can lead to high birthweights and IIRC you said you were 19? So you're quite unlikely to have been offered screening unless you have other risk factors. No idea about housing but hopefully someone will be able to help. There are other more specific sections of MN with some very knowledgeable posters if you post a question there.

whisper that is a really bizarre dream!

molly foofs are all over MN so just jump right in!

NomDeClavier Thu 24-Oct-13 11:59:25

Knitting is productive whisper grin I would like a couple of productive days sat knitting right now.

Oh no chelsea! try posting on one of the high traffic areas like chat, I've seen loads of people get good advice on things like housing but know nothing about it myself, sorry.

Have been trying to crack on, have ordered 2 big boxes of nappies from Amazon and a pram liner for my silver cross. Getting excited now!

PinkWitch803 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:15:52

This thread moves soooo fast.

I keep getting sharp pains at the front and to the side of my bump. I am hoping it is ligament pain. The baby seems to be moving ok but with keep and eye on it. My consultant told me to report any pain but if I reported every twinge and twist I would have moved into the hospital by now!

I am off to but curtains and then visit a freind and her 6 month old boy. It might be one of the last times I fit behind the steering wheel so we are possibly marking a very special occasion (lol). I am bringing another freind whose birthday it is. She is lucky. Who wouldn't want to choose someone else's curtains on their birthday. She is such a lucky lady. I bet she tries to get me to get funky ones when I just want plain old dark blue ones! I am more interested in the runners tbh.

WhisperMen Thu 24-Oct-13 12:18:29

it wouldn't be so bad nom but i've almost run out of wool and I don't have anything I want to knit at the moment once I have finished my step mums birthday present which will take about an hour.

Peanut has had hiccups for about an hour. How long are they meant to hiccup for? anything I can do to help the little thing?

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:22:47

Gosh I can't keep up ! Lol
Enjoy the picnic feather
Pink enjoy looking for curtains and seeing your friend.

Mum popped in for a cuppa this morning after he dropped my brother at work. Needed a hug feeling rather pants today. She's about the only friend I've got. :/

May go an have a nice bath and then wash up (boring) and make some cakes.
My life is so exciting lol

mumoftwoboysS Thu 24-Oct-13 12:36:52

Grr! Had indigestion since this morning. Erm a pain au raisin and tea probably didn't help! Don't want to take Gavisgon as then I won't be able to eat lunch straight away but don't know what to eat anyway! So many things give me heartburn- beans on toast, soup (any kind) anything with tomatoes in it, anything yummy...

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 13:28:30

whisper bump gets hiccups for ages! I feel so sorry for the little one, I never get them so it just feels so mean! must get it from their daddy! I find just lying still breathing slowly and rubbing bump helps! Although its probably just a coincidence!!

I treated myself to a choccie croissant this morning, went to the loo at work to find chocolate all round my face (including under my eye!) no-one told me at all! Either I'm a grouchy pregnant person or this sort of thing happens on a regular basis and work are used to me looking a state!

PistachioTruffle Thu 24-Oct-13 13:45:50

Ooh new thread, thanks Lady.

Daley, it sounds like they are being cautious and taking your concerns seriously. Are you happy with the plan? How exciting you might have your baby so soon!

Stom, where about in the country are you? If you were near me I'd meet up with you grin

Chelsea, what are the issues with your housing? Hope you get it sorted soon.

I've just tried to post the links for the freebies, but it seems the fisherprice offer has expired sad But the Nuby offer still seems to be working - like the Nuby UK FB page, click the bump, birth and baby tab and enter your details to choose which gift you want - I think its a choice of soother, nappy cream or weaning spoons. I'm not sure how good they are as mine haven't arrived yet!

I think I mentioned it in an earlier thread, but the Emma's diary pack is worth getting too, full size Johnson's wipes and some travel size Johnson's baby toiletries to try out and see if they suit. I haven't received loads of junk mail or email from them since I signed up either, which is good.

DaleyBump Thu 24-Oct-13 14:16:09

I'm really happy with it Pistachio, I just want him here safe and sound asap now smile

Whisper, hiccups are good! Although they're annoying, they help baby's lungs develop smile

Chelsealady Thu 24-Oct-13 14:29:46

PistachioTruffle basically at the moment i am at my mothers which is not good! I lived with my nan since i was 11 die to home issues with my mum when i was young. When i found out i was pregnant i had to go back to my mums and i am currently in a box room and things are not great. I applied for housing 6 months ago and told them once baby is here i am no longer aloud at home as my mother will be kicking me out (we have never got along she has a bad drinking habit). They wrote to me today to say i am 89th on the list as i am not high priority...fair enough as there are woman out there with 3 kids and no were to go but what am i meant to do when baby comes along? Also they said i am only aloud a 1 bedroom do you think this is because baby is not here yet or is this just how they play it now?

I have tried to call them but they have to pit you in a Line and call you back and they never do. Starting to really stress my boyfriend is in the army and i cant live at his mums theres no room there eithersad

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 14:35:14

pistachio I love in West Sussex lol

chelsea I hope you get something soon. I think because it's just you and baby will be so small they'll only give you a one bed? I tried to get on our council list when I first found out but they said I had to wait until I was 7 months toget on the list!! In the mean time dps brother has offering us to live in his house for a cou

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 14:36:31

Bloody phone.

Has offered us to live in his house for a couple year while he's in Dubai. So least we are kinda sorted until lol one is at least 2 could be longer if they decide to stay there. But give us abit more time to sort it.
Hope things work out soon. It's a pain when you want help and no one is willing to help you xx

LadyMedea Thu 24-Oct-13 14:38:51

chelsea can you go in in person and talk to them? Unfortunately everything I've read makes me think they'll offer you a hostel place if your a kicked out if your mum's when baby arrives. 89th sounds bad but find out how many properties cone in each week then you can work out how long you might be waiting. I would have thought you'd need a two bedroom so query that... X x

Saw my midwife today for 34 week check, all looks good. Then it was a slightly painful trip to the hygienist - pregnancy gingivitis anyone? My gums are screwed, when I Brush I look like a vampire. grin

Chelsealady Thu 24-Oct-13 14:39:07

stom itis a nightmare! Iv been doing this on my own as boyfriend is back and forward im ok at mums for now i just keep myself quite. Even if she changed her mind about me being aloud to live there with the baby i wouldnt even be able to fit a cot in my room and i have no space to store anything now let alone when she is here!

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 15:04:03

Oh Chelsea I wish I could help you.
Like lady said maybe it's worth going to the council offices?

kerryc29 Thu 24-Oct-13 15:50:41

Haven't been on here in a while - between work and sleeping I don't seem to have any time spare, which I am taking as a good thing at the moment because I haven't been able to start panicking about things as yet!!

Chelsea have a look on the Money Advice Service website (https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/categories/having-a-baby) the section about having a baby has all the info you need. I have also phoned them not about housing but working tax credits and they were really helpful so I am sure they will be able to tell you what you are entitled to.

I am 32 weeks today, getting scared now every time I see on Facebook someone has posted one of them countdown to Christmas things, makes it seem too close!!

I have a scan booked in for the week after next as I had a low lying placenta at the 20 week scan and they need to check if it has now moved - has anyone had experience of this? I'm worried as I'm not worried if that makes sense, I am assuming that it would have moved by now.

Also, I have no idea how some of you know what positioning your baby is lying in I cannot make any sense of which way mine is laying!!

froubylou Thu 24-Oct-13 16:09:30

Well am back from hospital.

Not my best appointment. Baby is breech which I kind of expected. Felt him turn last night. He is up high with his legs under his chin and his back on the left hand side.

And he has dropped off a bit on the growth chart. Still grown since last one 4 weeks ago but not as much as they would like. Blood flow is fine as are fluid levels but they want to keep a close eye on things so have to go back next week for blood flow and fluid to be checked. And then at 34 wks for a growth scan.

So bit worried about it all. Going to eat lots and rest even more!

qumquat Thu 24-Oct-13 16:51:05

I hope everything is ok Chelsea. We are thinking of you.

Loki - just think how you will feel when the bell goes tomorrow afternoon!

I have moved my maternity leave to starting the 6th December, so only 5 more weeks after half term! I feel so much better for it, just have to hope Ofsted don't come in during those 5 weeks!

meandbumpy Thu 24-Oct-13 17:17:39

Blimey, a lot has happened since last night!!

Lol claire that's about right! grin

Hi dizzy, glad to hear you're having a good pregnancy.

ring I've always been intrigued about placenta eating, it kind of grosses me out but then again it's probably a very natural thing to do. Is anyone else thinking of doing it/ has done it?

Daley glad you're sorted with a plan for bump and that you're happy with it. Not long now!

D'you know itsliz it's amazing how when you share these stories you realise that tough times are just a natural part of life and that people will understand what your going through and how your feeling. It's good to talk smile

Chelsea what a night, I missed it all! Very glad to hear you're ok now. Definitely try to get in to the office and talk to someone face to face about your situation. I'm sure some things will have changed a bit by now but when my mum was applying for a council house she really had to state her claim as she wasn't considered high priority (she'd sold the family home after my dad left and was faced with being homeless for 6 months before the new house was ready for us to move into) With regards to them offering a 1 bed, i'd advise accepting it if you can manage as sometimes they drop you further on the priority list if you've refused a few places. Get yourself in somewhere for now and then go back later to ask for a bigger place.
Also, please ignore me if I'm prying but could you discus with your boyfriend the possibility of renting somewhere privately. i know he's away but I'm sure he could still set up payments in his name if that was something you thought could work for you both and his wage allowed.
Good luck and keep persevering, you will get there!

Hope your dh makes it to the scan feather

Stom I'll be your friend! Although it might have to be virtual as I'm up t'other end of the country!

Phew, I've missed loads but can't keep up! Hope everyone's foofs are behaving!! grin

meandbumpy Thu 24-Oct-13 17:19:53

Sorry to hear your appointment didn't go so well froubylou and thinking of you

Featherbag Thu 24-Oct-13 17:44:08

Whisper I think that must've been an imposter! I have long brown hair but that sounds like the only similarity! Even looking at heels is making my feet swell lol! But thanks for the ego-boosting mental image smile.

Chelsea I really hope you find somewhere! I agree with whoever suggested it that private rent may be the way forward, does your local council offer any help with deposits etc. for that?

Frouby sorry you've not had a more positive appointment I know you're going to worry until the next scan but try and be nice to yourself in the meantime! what about some pampering (salon or home) to help take your mind off things?

Picnic was good, DS was a little whirlwind in the play park, I'm so pleased my mum was there to chase him or he would've been in the lake with the ducks on several occasions! We then went to Homebase to steal wallpaper samples for DS to draw on with the chunky crayons I bought today - I'm trying to come up with activities he can do at home when my mum isn't able to come on outings with us.

DH has managed to persuade his boss to let him out earlier still on Monday so will be at the scan thank god, but the thought of him having come so close to missing it because of someone's stupid mistake makes my blood boil, this is very very likely to be our last scan, and as it's our last baby, DH's last chance to go to one with me!

Mum tells me my dad's apparently agreed to go on a business trip abroad at the exact time the baby's due. He'll be going shortly before the date I reckoned a CS would be scheduled for, at 39 weeks, and will be gone for up to a fortnight. I'm gutted! She says he didn't realise, but I've had the same due date since the 12 week scan, so it's not a surprise! As mum can't drive, it'll also make it more difficult for her to have DS although she'll still have him. I was planning on asking my consultant to deliver at 38 weeks because of the SPD, I don't reckon I'll be able to move at all by then - do you reckon I should mention the difficulties in childcare by 39 weeks too? Or will they not care?

thedizzy1 Thu 24-Oct-13 18:08:21

Lol at everyones foofs behaving!
Froubylou I hope you're able to rest and not worry too much- I had to have 4 extra growth scans with my dd as I was measuring too small and they weren't sure about her growth, but twas all fine.
Im impressed with the organisation of everyone ordering stuff and shopping- I've ordered a double pram and washed all of dds excessive amount of babygros and vests but thats the actual extent of my organisation. .. haven't even thought about my hospital bag yet. I think I feel like I've just done it all- where I had dd in may last year I think part of me isn't ready...it's a problem!!
Last night was hideous, had to wee 4 times while trying to get to sleep, then I was up every hour to go toilet then I woke up at 3 and worried about everything in the world! Couldnt sleep again so I'm really tired today. Bath and an early night tonight methinks.
Could I join the facebook page please? It'd be nice to put names to faces.

Featherbag Thu 24-Oct-13 18:11:02

I'd like to join the FB group too, who do I message again?

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 18:16:36

Feather and dizzy pm me a link to your profile and I'll add you in. I have to add u as a friend first. Xx

MrsShrubs Thu 24-Oct-13 20:43:49

MW appointment went well, confirmed I have SPD but its manageable at the moment. And baby boy at the moment is head down ready to go, however with 7 weeks left in pretty sure he will move out of position again.

Watched look who's talking earlier, really made me giggle!

Sorry frouby your appointment didn't go as you hoped

Glad your OH has managed to get the time off feather

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 21:05:42

frouby my little one is breech as well and seems to be quite happy up there as well!! Hopefully they'll both turn in time!

I'd like to join the fb group as well if poss so I'll send you a message stom

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 21:09:07

stom I'm getting used to this, how do I send you a message?! blush help!!

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 21:20:46

Molly I got your messages all 3 of them haha I'll add you in xx

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 21:27:30

lol so sorry! I'm not normally so much of a technofobe! xx

BohemianRaspberry Thu 24-Oct-13 21:28:03

chelsea can you keep harassing them to give you something? Tenacity hopefully helps and if you don't mind moving slightly away, you may get something?

sorry to hear that feather hopefully it'll all work out well!

frouby sorry you have such a lousy appointment - any chance of it turning for you.

Lady I've managed to break a tooth today! I hope that's the only problem I have with teeth and pregnancy.

Think junior is still head down, can't tell ...

MrsShrubs Thu 24-Oct-13 21:46:26

Really random thing I've started to notice, at the tip of my bump towards my sternum I have a numb spot, anyone else got this?

Alyssa1978 Thu 24-Oct-13 21:54:22

Yes me mrs
It's directly under my right boob and its numb to the touch but really hurts too, I had it with ds2 and its gotten worse with this one, it goes away after bump is born.

Asked ds1 what he wanted to call the baby and he replied with jelly baby lol bless him.

Glad everything turned out ok chelsea and little one is staying out for now.

Sorry for missing people out, it's all moved too fast while I've been at work, I think I'll keep up better when I eventually start mat leave lol

MrsShrubs Thu 24-Oct-13 22:05:24

Same mine hurts too but doesn't have great sensitivity, so weird!!

Molly28 Thu 24-Oct-13 22:22:08

I get that feeling and I just though it was cos baby is breech and was sticking its little head in my ribs didn't realise everyone got it!!

Deya Thu 24-Oct-13 22:39:10

Me too - I had a really painful right underboob. It used to go from numb, to very sharp and burning like agony. It stopped as soon as I was signed off work. So it must be exacerbated by prolonged sitting at desk. Now I only get it if I've been standing or walking for long - which isn't often now at all! As somebody said earlier - it has gone rapidly downhill here in recent weeks and a pleasant walk is a rare luxury now.

So much to catch up on!

5ammy Thu 24-Oct-13 22:39:33

Does anyone know how to DM off an iPhone? I want to join the Facebook group - but can't seem to DM :-(

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 22:43:23

Go to the top if this page and click on inbox then should be a new message link write in my name or whispermen then write your message.

Alyssa that's really cute!!!

Really rather spaced out tonight
Can't wait for dp to get home for a hug. Feel like crying and have no idea why!

kchapper5 Thu 24-Oct-13 22:47:59

Just an update from me about today's scan, everything is fine with bump and we managed to avoided the gender again. Apparently bump weighs about 4lb already (gulp) and according to dp has my nose. smile
Will catch up with everyone properly in the morning as we've been for a meal for sil's birthday tonight and I am stuffed so going to sleeps

5ammy Thu 24-Oct-13 22:50:04

Thanks everyone for being so kind when I was having a mini breakdown/bitching session. I'm normally a nice girl.

Glad all is OK Chelsea :-)

Feeling better now - skipped my molecular biology lecture this morning to sleep! Was so needed. House is still a mess and mother due to come and stay - but balls to it. I'm a working mum of two who's 34 weeks pregnant and a full time uni' student - if my house was immaculate too I'd have a cape!

Got an email from work today telling me I had 2 days leave I needed to take before my mat' leave / due date - so that cheered me up too (may even manage a day off before baby is born).

Sorry to all those having a tough time with growth and RFM. I just keep feeling wet - although midwife said not to worry - I'm sure it smells funny and am paranoid that people think I'm 'the dodgy smelling pregnant girl' - although my husband assures me it doesn't smell funny (not an offensive smell - just weird).

Wonder who of us will have baby first?

I expect to be late - was with the last two - will be a shock of this one is early as I am busy right up until due date.

Gonna try and get more sleep (I could sleep for England). In the lab tomorrow - took a swab of my iPhone to see what was living on it - I should see the results tomorrow - I'm more excited about that then the experiment I'm supposed to be doing. Ha ha.

Sleep well ladies x

5ammy Thu 24-Oct-13 22:57:31


I think I've managed it.


Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 23:03:12

With regards to holiday. I had 5 days to take before my mat leave started but stupid douche of a manager said I wasn't entitled to them which I know I am. But I'm not on Mat leave. Can I get the pay or have I got to face facts that I will just loose it ?

Stom91 Thu 24-Oct-13 23:03:39

Now on Mat leave *

5ammy Thu 24-Oct-13 23:07:57

I think if you don't take the leave you can just lose it. I said I wanted to be paid for mine - but they said no. They've told me if I don't book it they'll automatically allocate it to me.

I'm just trying to work out when to book it now :-/

PinkWitch803 Thu 24-Oct-13 23:22:24

Stom, did you go straight on to mat leave, or were you signed off sick?. If you were sick, then went to mat leave, then they have to carry any remaining holiday over to the next tax/holiday year (I think). I know that is the case with my nhs trust and they are very much guided by the queen (hmrc).

Worth checking out.

PistachioTruffle Thu 24-Oct-13 23:42:53

Can I ask a couple of questions about the fb group? Can any of your fb friends see that youre a member of it? Can anyone who's not a member find it or see what's written? And can members of the group see your profile, or only what you write on the group? I would like to join but I'm very particular about who I'm friends with and what people can read due to some bad experiences some friends have had in the past sad

DaleyBump Thu 24-Oct-13 23:48:43

No Pistachio, I made it secret so nobody can see you're a member except the other members. Someone has to add you as a friend to add you to the group, but you can remove them afterwards. You have to be invited, you can't find it otherwise. I'll add you if you like and remove you from my friends list straight away? smile

MrsShrubs Fri 25-Oct-13 09:09:12

So glad the numbness is not just me, it's so weird!!

glad everything went well kchapper

such an unproductive day yesterday, I was on a half day due to my MW appointment and thought I'll make the most of it by doing a tidy up around the house and start washing and drying babies clothes, what actually happend was MIL & SIL came round for 2 hours then DH finished work early and we sat and watched films and tv for the rest of the day - oops!!

MrsShrubs Fri 25-Oct-13 09:09:58

ps daley I'll send you a message about joining the facebook group too if that's okay?

Featherbag Fri 25-Oct-13 09:30:00

Oh dear, think if have a poorly little boy! He woke up covered in horrendously stinky poo and has been so lethargic since getting up. He's usually so busy charging about, no time for mammy, but he spent ages lying on the floor half-heartedly pushing a fire engine back and forth then climbed up on the sofa, dragged a blanket over himself then pulled my arm around him and snuggled in! He feels a bit warm too. Think I'm going to put him down for an early nap at about 10 with some calpol, and if his little brother would be so kind as to stop head butting my bladder I might get my head down for a bit too as I feel like I haven't slept!

WhisperMen Fri 25-Oct-13 09:41:13

oh no feather hope your ds gets better soon. Hopefully it's just a 24 hour thing.

I am in a full on screw the world mood today and will probably spend most of it hiding under a blanket eating custard creams. I have about a million phonecalls to make today. None of which I can make because my phone has decided today it shall die. Should hopefully be getting a new phone this evening though unless orange carry on being stupid fuckwits and pissing me about.

Oh no feather, hope your DS is better soon!

Taken DD to nursery and picked up a couple of bits from the shop and I'm wiped out. Putting my feet up for a bit but I have a massive list of thing to do today!

itsliz Fri 25-Oct-13 10:37:18

Morning all!

Been keeping up with everyone's posts over the last couple of days but haven't had chance to chip in til now!

My Grandad is very, very ill so I popped round for a visit yesterday in case it's the last chance I'll get to see him.
I've been putting it off for ages, firstly because he was in hospital for quite a while and so I was advised not to visit in case I picked up any germs, but secondly because I didn't know how I'd cope with the whole situation.
What with all these pregnancy hormones, I didn't want to end up stressing out the little one or bursting into tears in front of everyone and making things even harder for them! Amazingly I managed to stay very calm though and told him how we'd be using his name for our little man's middle name smile

DP cheered me up afterwards by taking me to Wetherspoon's for dinner (he's a charmer, I know!) so by the time we got home I was completely shattered. Somehow though I still managed to end up waking up at 2.30am and stayed wide awake until about 5.30am... All these people telling me to make the most of sleeping while I can is starting to feel like a cruel joke! hmm

Feather I hope your little boy feels better soon, bless him.
And Chelsea I'm so glad to hear everything's ok with you and baby.
5ammy I was wondering that the other day - maybe we should start taking bets on who will give birth first?! My money's on Daley wink

froubylou Fri 25-Oct-13 10:40:00

Hope he picks up soon feather.

Well I have spent the night being kicked and punched from the inside lol. At 5am I am pretty sure baby was vertical rather than horizontal. Would guess from where I was getting booted most he was head down.

By 7am pretty sure he was horizontal again.

It appears my little boy is a fidget bum lol.

Am going to join you with a lazy day I think. Am knackered after such a busy night and think an hours snooze will do me the world of good.

Pram shopping tomorrow whoop whoop!

WhisperMen Fri 25-Oct-13 12:07:46

managed to get my phone to charge using an elaborate concoction of household items to hold the wire in exactly the right place. I stupidly used the custard creams though and now I am staring hopelessly at them because it took me an hour to get the bloody phone on charge so there is no way I am going near it until it is at least 3/4 done!

I'm sorry to hear about your granddad liz I know what you mean about people saying make the most of the amount of sleep you get. I want to punch them in the face. with spikes on my knuckles that have some kind of slow acting poison that makes their life unbearable for many weeks before killing them. I have probably thought too much about this, but what else is there to do at 4am? grin

enjoy your nap froubyI just had one and it was amazing.

MrsShrubs Fri 25-Oct-13 12:28:41

Sorry to hear about your grandad itsliz and what a lovely way to keep him close to you by using his name.

Little mans got the hicuups again, seems to get them every day about twice a day. At least I get a reminder for a good 15 mins straight that he's in there I guess!

Ooh, how exciting frouby, have you chosen what you want to buy yet or not?

Still sitting on my arse watching TV, will get up to start doing stuff soon, promise! smile

LadyMedea Fri 25-Oct-13 12:58:33

Can I join you on the sofa for a duvet day? I was up most of the night with intractable heartburn, not touched by ranitidine or gaviscon. I've booked into the doctors on Monday to get my hands on some omeprazole... I'll have no oesophagus left at this rate if I don't do something. No sleep has left me feeling all dizzy and spacey so I think its lovefilm instant watching something unchallenging this afternoon.

DH is on a course for the next two weeks so I get the car! Driving does leave me walking like John Wayne but it means I can just pop out to mooch mothercare or meet a friend for lunch without contemplating walking and buses. Yeah!

Just started reading this wonderful book on child development/psychology - Keeping Your Child in Mind. It's really fascinating as it's not about parenting techniques but how to put yourself in your child's shoes and respond to their behaviour by understanding their psychological and neurological development...first chapter is on the 'difficult baby' so very relevant.... I'm a nerd aren't I?

Stom91 Fri 25-Oct-13 13:10:00

Sounds like a good book lady!

Sorry to hear about your grandad. Liz I lost mine a year ago last week. I hope he gets a little better soon.

If Daley is being induced I think she will have a November baby!!

I'm 32 weeks tomorrow. Really should sort put my hospital bag but alas no money til pay day next week :/

NomDeClavier Fri 25-Oct-13 13:17:25

lady I suggest adding to your reading list 'the wonder weeks' - it's another child psychology/development book and I found it absolutely spot on.

I think there are a few November babies with changed EDDs or ELCSs. I'm more likely to have a January one!

sad sorry about your granddad liz.

Poor you feather it's worrying when they're usually so full on and then just want to lie there and do nothing.

I have the opposite - DS has a hideous rash but doesn't seem ill at all. Nursery reckon it's an allergy so have taken him (thank heaven!) but docs at 4. Now I really need to crack on and do some work!

Stom91 Fri 25-Oct-13 16:35:11

Just come back from
My birthday reflexology treatment. Was so nice and relaxing! Highly recommend. Was weird to start with because I hate people touching my feet lol but was so worth it.

My nan bought me 4 boxes of nappies, a box of wet wipes and a change /hospital bag today so once they arrive I can start putting my bag together yay smile can't believe we are all coming so close to our due dates. Doesn't seem that long ago we were moaning as we had so l

Stom91 Fri 25-Oct-13 16:35:34

Just come back from
My birthday reflexology treatment. Was so nice and relaxing! Highly recommend. Was weird to start with because I hate people touching my feet lol but was so worth it.

My nan bought me 4 boxes of nappies, a box of wet wipes and a change /hospital bag today so once they arrive I can start putting my bag together yay smile can't believe we are all coming so close to our due dates. Doesn't seem that long ago we were moaning as we had so long to go!!

BohemianRaspberry Fri 25-Oct-13 20:09:08

woo it's Friday and many nappy returns Stom, sorry about your grandad liz. And daley you might be the first of us smile and lady I'm personally loving my car at the moment , glad you have it.

I managed to have lots of energy today, felt quite proud of that :D

Although have to share the embarassment of that I gave my HoD a lift back to his house and then proceed to drive the wrong way out of his town. 10 miles down winding hairpin country roads in the dark with Junior pressing ever harder on a filling bladder. Finally hit a village in the middle of nowhere and see a pub and think 'thank god', pull over and go into only to find male barman and five blokes drinking. Manage to stutter out that I need the loo and they say yeah no problem. Then as I walk out, all six begin to ask if I'm alright and do I need anything ... and I burst into tears at their kindness, apologising frantically, leg it out of the pub and drive! I feel terrible now!

Chelsealady Fri 25-Oct-13 20:23:52

itsliz Really sorry about your grandad always hard in times like that. We are using my boyfriends grandads name Sidney as it is also my little brothers name but as im having a girl she will be s Sydney...not sure if i want it as the first name or second yet tho. X

lisbapalea Fri 25-Oct-13 20:32:31

Hi all,

Hope everyone's relaxing this evening and on track for a decent night's sleep! I woke up at 5 and am knackered after a really full on day. DD has been really good but it's wiped me out getting from one errand to the other!

I am now slobbed in front of telly while a Bolognese sauce for tomorrow's lasagne (have got friends plus their 3 children coming for lunch) bubbling away on the hob!

I had my 32wk appt with my new midwife today and she has got me very nervous for my appointment with the consultant on 21 Nov. I have now decided I would like to go for an elcs (DD was also an elcs as she was breech) and the appointment is the follow up to my first appointment with him which was immediately booked for me because of my precious section. I have thought about it a lot and discussed with midwives etc and have decided the section is what I'd like to go for. But the midwife today told me that the consultant may well tell me there's no medical reason to have one. This is the first time it's been positioned this way and until now I have been under the impression that it's my decision to make (seeing as it's my body and baby and other technicalities like that!) and as long as the hcp's have given me all necessary info, for both sides, then they will support my decision.

But now I feel it's the consultant's decision and that pisses me off. I know in other areas (like where we used to live) a previous c-section pretty much automatically qualifies someone for an elcs, so I don't know why I am going to have to fight for it at my local hospital.

I struggled to stay calm and not cry when the midwife told me I need to "prepare myself" for the consultant to say this. Am sure I will cry at the next appointment so am taking dh with me I think.

Feeling pissed off and miserable about it, so have just eaten a Bounty. Baby seemed to like it - LOADS of kicking!

Deya Fri 25-Oct-13 20:52:24

liz sorry to hear that your grandad is poorly. I love my grandparents very much as I spent a lot of time with them as a child. My grandad lives far away and I see him rarely, and every time I'm there he says this must be the last time I'll see him. Have to remind him that grandma used to say that for 10 years at least smile
lisbapaela you must feel very insecure at the moment as I guess all of us would like to have at least some sort of say or control over how births of our babies happen. I'm even scared I might not get the epidural I want and it worries me lots. I hope your consultant turns out to be understanding...

MildredH Fri 25-Oct-13 20:55:26

Lisa you do have the right to ask for an ELCS- NICE say so and even more so in your case as a VBAC has risks which they can't make you accept.

Just be polite, calm but extremely firm. Make it clear you have spent time considering your options and this is your final decision.

meandbumpy Fri 25-Oct-13 20:58:50

So sorry to hear about your Grandad Liz, thinking of you thanks

Bohemian that's so funny, I'm sure you've given them an education!

Can anyone advise me on RFM please? I'm a bit confused about what to do as bumps kicks have definitely reduced other the past few days but not stopped altogether. Do they need to fully stop before you ring up about it or is a change in the usual routine enough to cause concern? I am nearly 34 weeks so could it just be that it's getting cramped in there and bump isn't able to kick as much? It is getting plenty of hiccups, about twice a day, but just isn't having it's mad kickabouts like it was.
I'm probably fretting unnecessarily but feel a bit confused about the whole thing and thought someone might be able to put my mind at rest.

Alyssa1978 Fri 25-Oct-13 20:59:23

liz sorry about your grandad.

stom that's really nice of your nan to buy those for you, at least you can get your hospital bag started now.
Glad you enjoyed your reflexology, I can't do it, I hate feet lol and if someone tried to touch mine I'd kick them confused
whisper lol I always laugh now when people say that to me as I know once you get to a certain point in pregnancy, there ain't no sleep until baby decides he/she will sleep through the night.

lisba sorry to hear that, hopefully if its a c section you want then you'll get it, c sections really scare me and I've never had one confused

bohemian don't feel terrible Hun, hormones are evil things, I feel like I'm always yelling at my kids at the minute and even though I know its all down to hormones and hopefully they'll be gone soon I still feel like a terrible mother.

mrs I was watching jelly baby have the hiccups earlier, must hav gone on for 10 minutes bless him.

Anyone else having pain in their legs? My left thigh at the front has had random shooting pains all day sad not helped by a 9 hour shift on my feet sad I was thinking maybe its due to bump being low down.

Alyssa1978 Fri 25-Oct-13 21:02:09

meand my midwife says that even when it's cramped you should get less kicks but the amount of movements you get should roughly stay the same, maybe give the labour ward a ring Hun and ask, even if its to put your mind at rest.

PinkWitch803 Fri 25-Oct-13 21:09:06

Lisba, you know what you want and have good reason. Talk to the consuktant when you have your appointment. He will be the one who matters.

I say this following another unhelpful mw appoint where all my questions were answered with "if you have any concerns, contact the assesment unit"! What is my mw for if not to ask questions. Is it really about taling my bp and trying to find the baby's heartbeat. Which took about a minute. The only reason I didn't panic was because seconds before the baby was doing backflips!

So I am phoning the assesment unit tomorrow to ask all my questions and not discussing anything else with my mw! I will talk about delivery with my consultant at my next appointment.

Don't get me wrong, the mw is lovely, but I really had to ask what was the point of that appointment!

lisbapalea Fri 25-Oct-13 21:13:30

Thanks all. mildred I think you're right in making it clear that I have understood everything fully. I met with midwife who leads the vbacs a while back had a really honest chat with her when I hopefully demonstrated I was pretty well informed and clued up on this, and she totally seemed to appreciate my thoughts, so I just hope I can get the consultant (and my new community midwife) to treat me like an informed adult in the way she did!

I totally get that c-sections are major surgery and have lots of associated risks which are understandably scary to lots of people, but having had one last time (which was absolutely not part of my initial birth plan, which was very much midwife led, hypnobirthing etc), I have actually been left with a very positive experience of c-sections, so I am much more keen to go down the 'better the devil you know' route, as if I was to have a vbac, most of the "natural" options I originally wanted last time would be off limits.

The prospect of a medicalised vaginal birth, with constant monitoring, no access to pools etc, makes me very wary as this to me, knowing the way I sometimes respond to stressful situations (which a constantly monitored labour would be, in comparison to a straightforward natural labour), is more likely to end in an emcs. If I can avoid the emergency c-section by planning it up front, I think it makes a lot more sense.

5ammy Fri 25-Oct-13 21:41:44

Sorry about your grandad liz

I lost mine earlier this year - was absolutely delvistated. He kept talking about a baby - when he wasn't really 'with it', I didn't find out until a week after he'd passed that I'd been pregnant the whole time.

Very emotional time, but it does get better.


LadyMedea Fri 25-Oct-13 22:47:08

bumpy as Alyssa said movements do change as by 34 weeks it's pretty cramped in there with legs and arms tucked up so focus on frequency not scale... I'm 34+1 and I still get a lot of movement it's just more twiddly arms at the bottom and legs at the top and occasional vertical spins as it shifts from left to right. But it's very different than it was a couple of weeks ago. The advice is to look for ten movements in 2 hours, if you are getting less than that go in for monitoring.

BohemianRaspberry Fri 25-Oct-13 22:56:47

Seconding lady I'm 34 weeks and I rarely get the full on swimming lessons but I do get the verticals, pushing hands and twitchy feet. I was told to look for frequency too x

meandbumpy Fri 25-Oct-13 23:24:50

Thank you for the advice Lady and Alyssa, I think I'm probably over reacting about it, just really strange when it'd had such a set routine for so long. I'll do the counting and check for an hour and check. Perhaps I'm not noticing them now they're smaller....we'll see hmm

mumoftwoboysS Fri 25-Oct-13 23:34:32

Anyone else awake? Sorry haven't been able to read all posts today. Can't sleep due to restless leg, hunger, baby kicking and moving like mad and having had an argument with DH about our cat. He's lost more weight, we can't afford to have all the tests, biopsy etc to find out what's wrong. DH pointed this out and I know he's right but he looks at it so logically whilst I'm there a blubbing wreck crying as I don't want to put down my beloved cat and DH doesn't understand this! I feel distraught and can't cry properly as if hurts my bump! He apologised later but I just feel like he's so insensitive-grr! I know babies are more important than cats but I feel I've let my poor cat down.

Sorry to hear about your grandad too liz

lisb hope you get what you want- there's nothing worse (or more scary than the thought of someone else controlling how we have our babies, I can understand that. It's such an unknown as it is not knowing when and how, I can see why you want them to listen to you.

I'd better try get some sleep, so tired....

mumoftwoboysS Fri 25-Oct-13 23:37:38

meandbumpy I'm getting less big movements too (32 wks tomorrow) much more twitches, hand movements, the odd knee in the stomach muscles. I think it is that baby is bigger so the movements change. Hope you're reassured soon, as long as you're feeling stuff I'm sure baby is fine, in there chilling smile

DaleyBump Sat 26-Oct-13 00:01:35

Sorry, I've not read all the posts, I just wanted to say bumpy, if you're at all concerned, get checked. Don't wait until you can't feel anything. I'm saying this as someone who gets repeated rfm and I'm getting induced because of it. Please do get yourself checked.

DaleyBump Sat 26-Oct-13 00:03:15

Also, hiccups don't count because they're involuntary movements. Like how you can wriggle your wrist but if you've got hiccups you can't stop it.

If that makes any sense.

MrsShrubs Sat 26-Oct-13 01:03:27

Definitely give the MW a call, I went at about 24weeks and I'd waited 48hours, the MW told me off in a very nice way because I'd waited that long and stressed myself out about it and I thought I'd just be wasting their time but like she said to me its their job her words were 'I would rather you be here every day being reassured baby is fine than you being at home and quietly worrying you're going to cause an inconvenience to us and ignoring things' so for sure give them a call and get yourself monitored for your own peace of mind. They're there 24/7 for us.

Roselau Sat 26-Oct-13 02:10:41

here you all are!!
jeez, 6 pages in two days!? you chatty bunch. It's so hard to keep up. when I get up in the morning (with 8 hour time difference), there is so much to catch up on that I often have to give up on reading before I get to the end. but I'm still around smile

chelsea i followed your little adventure from the other day and got so worried for you. I'm glad everything is ok.
I'm also getting loads of BH. I'm told to phone the Dr if more than 6 per hour. But they are not painful, just uncomfortable, and always make me want to go pee! ugh. I can't go 20 minutes without needing to go pee. it's really annoying.
So got to see baby girl's little face yesterday in 3D. she is so cute, she's got a chubby little face. but she is massive - already 4.5 lbs and I'm not even 32 weeks. They don't understand how I've only gained 15-17 lbs... she is head down which is good, but pushing my ribs with her little feet which can be painful.

Other than that life in the USA is ok. we live right next to the beach which is great to go for a walk during the day (although I have to rush home to go pee more often than not). glad it's the weekend because I get really bored at home by myself. DH works a lot.

anyways, will finish catching up, but i hope everyone is ok!

Roselau Sat 26-Oct-13 02:17:30

sorry about your grandad liz sad

itsliz Sat 26-Oct-13 06:35:55

Thank you all so much for your kind words. It really means a lot and reminds me that I'm incredibly lucky to be part of such a lovely, friendly welcoming little community on here smile
He's got cancer and at the age of 95 he's decided he'd rather not have any treatment so although he has good days and bad days, unfortunately there's not much chance of him getting better. I'm surprisingly numb to it all at the moment but maybe that's just a coping mechanism...

Anyways, we've got a busy weekend here - the nesting has kicked in and at last DP seems to be on board with it all so he's agreed to move some furniture, build the cot etc while I take a slow waddle into town to buy more supplies for the hospital bag. I also ordered a steam cleaner on Amazon last night, so I'm going to go nuts blitzing the flat when that arrives!

Tonight we're off to a Halloween party which should be fun although it'll probably involve lots of standing around, so not sure how long I'll last. I'm not dressing up but I was hoping to buy one of those skeleton tshirts for the occasion, with a rib cage at the top and a cute little skeleton baby where the bump is! Couldn't find one in a maternity size though... How does that make sense?!

Going to get back to catching up on the thread now but I hope you all have a lovely pain-free, stress-free weekend smile

Chilli81 Sat 26-Oct-13 08:26:16

hello everyone. have just about caught up.
Liz sorry about your grandad. it's really hard even if you know rationally that their time has come. thanks pistachio you probably don't remember asking now it's been so long but yes house of cards is brilliant (if you like political thrillers)
rose glad you found us and that you are ok. it must be quite hard being somewhere new when dp is out working a lot. once your dd is bitten I'm sure you'll meet lots more people. it's incredible how a baby can give you an in to your local area like nothing else can.
Daley can't believe you might be having your little one so soon. very jealous. I'm 34 weeks today and the thought of having another 6 wks to go (at least) makes me want to cry! I've got two weeks of work and then I'm really going to go for it with the bouncing, raspberry leaf tea, etc... grin sorry again if I've missed people out. I'm on my phone so can't go back to check who's posted what.

Chilli81 Sat 26-Oct-13 08:27:24

rose one your dd is here not bitten. wink

WhisperMen Sat 26-Oct-13 09:30:53

Morning all! Hope you slept brilliantly.

I had a lovely afternoon shopping with my Dad for my birthday. He gave me £40 and let me loose. I ended up only spending £32 so I am going to use the last £8 to treat myself to a shit ton of junk food tomorrow as it is my actual birthday and I have to spend it alone. Might as well spend it eating cake and chocolate watching films grin

Got a birthday party tonight for one of my Dads friends and lots of family will be there. There has been two new arrivals recently, so I get lots of tiny baby snuggles and someone to moan about being pregnant with. The only part I am not looking forward too is assembling an outfit for myself that doesn't make me look like I got dressed in the dark grin

Hello rose I was wondering how you were getting on in the states. Lucky you living close to a beach though. It must be nice to go for walks.

itsliz for a halloween costume go in primark, buy a stretchy bright orange tshirt and draw a pumpkin face on it! Surely we have the ideal shape for this holiday grin

meandbumpy go get checked out if you are worried. You will only stress more and that is bad for baby so not doing it is silly grin

froubylou Sat 26-Oct-13 10:16:43

Morning all

Very jealous of your beach Rose. Hope you are settling in OK!

Don't anyone sit worrying about movements/strange pains/anything out of the ordinary, go and get checked out. If nothing else you get to sit for 2 hours at least doing nothing much except listening to babies heartbeat! Which some days sounds nice.

Couldn't find a pram I liked yesterday. Bollox. I really want a chunky, 3 wheel off roader type thing but the ones I have seen like that tend not to have the carrycot as an option and I think that a newborn would look hopelessly lost in the pram part even though it is designed from birth. The ones that have carrycots all seem to be pretty flimsy and plasticy in comparrison. The only compromise I can think of is to use the carseat for a few weeks to do the school run etc. I just worry that a newborn is going to be a bit lost and a bit exposed to the elements unless you permanently have the rain cover up. I know you are limited on the amount of time they can spend in the carseat but its about 30 mins twice a day. So not over the 4 hours they say.

And I am refusing to spend a lot on one lol. Which doesn't help. I will only use the pram until he is big enough to go into a maclaren and then his first pram will be used for stables/ponyshows/dogwalking etc hence the need for one that will cope relatively well with a bit of offroading. And from experiance they don't tend to last long before they either fall to bits or get so filthy they are beyond cleaning so will then get a cheapy off ebay or something.

I have been looking at the Mothercare Extreme one in giraffe. Is on the website at £200 and in my local mothercare outlet at £140! So pretty good value. Going to leave it until next week now and see if anything else I like comes in and if not probably have that. The other option is the Mothercare My4 I think it is? This has a better seat system than the Extreme and looks more newborn/tiny baby suited but feels pretty flimsy at the side of the extreme. And is the same price and doesn't include the car seat.

DP is getting a bit pissed off with all the pram shopping though bless him.

Going shopping later though. So might see something then!

meandbumpy Sat 26-Oct-13 10:19:15

Morning everyone, just coming on to up date and will catch up with everyone's posts soon. I didn't think about hiccups in that way Daley, good to know. I did the counting for 3 hourly slots through the night and when I really concentrated I could feel tiny weeny movements and a few bigger ones, so I think I was probably over reacting. I think I'm not noticing the smaller ones when I'm busying around in the day. Also, the cat came and sat on the bump at one point and his purring vibrated through and made bumpy go a bit crazy. Likewise when dp got home and was talking. . .maybe it's just bored with being stuck with just me all week and wants to hang out with someone else!??
Will keep doing checks today to make sure though. Thank you for being there for me and all your advice x

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 11:50:23

Hello rose hope you are enjoying the USA. Very jealous of your beach!!
Happy birthday whisper smile
Chilli I've started watching house of cards I'm on episode 4 or 5 but kinda lost the gist of what's going on as dp was being annoying and talking so I kept missing bits. Can you help me understand (plus I'm not very brainy) lol

Dp and his dad and sorting the garden out today ready so it's nice when we leave.

My brother pissed me off abit today, his play station has broken and my dad has tried to fix it for him but it didn't work so my brother is like I want my money back etc (bought a new hard drive to put in it) he was just really ungreatful, for
Dad even trying did even give dad a chance to say I'll take it back to the shop. I guess that just 19 year old boys
For you!

Made some more cakes today. Didn't burn them this time!! Lol
Dp was asking about the birth, and baby and all kids of questions this morning while we was chatting in bed which was nice it's the first time he's seemed interested in it all. Which is a good sign. Made me feel like he's does care and is interested (usually all I get is oh it'll be ok, just like having a big poo! Charming!!)
Anyway long post
Hope some of you got some sleep and babies are still playing drums with put insides smile
Have a good Saturday smile

LadyMedea Sat 26-Oct-13 12:23:39

DH just came to wake me up as for the first time ages I'd slept right through to 12pm. Didn't get to sleep until 3am so that's 9 hours sleep - woo hoo! Did finish off with a weird dream that a work colleague was actually the father of bump from a one night stand which was less relaxing.

Chelsealady Sat 26-Oct-13 15:05:08

froubylou I have the mothercare extreme i got it in the mothercare sale for £170 reduced from £400 when i was 4 minths pregnant. Its worth the money feels solid and safe and comes with raincover cosytoes carseat (which clicks in safely). I too was worried how the baby would look in the buggy being so small but as i wont need to be going to many places when she is born i will just keep her in the carseat atleast i can see she is okay. Keep the hood up baby wont look too exposed then but im sure they will be fine. X

Chelsealady Sat 26-Oct-13 15:09:07

rose thanks...the midwife said 4 BH contractions in 1 hour too me so i would maybe go with 4 just to be on the safe side. Try a warm bath helps ease the pain but not to hot as the midwife always stresses to me!

Alyssa1978 Sat 26-Oct-13 15:19:02

Don't bloody believe it, tripped over a pallet at work and landed directly in bump so I'm now am my pau strapped to a monitor to check on jellybean.... It really hurt and I'm all aches and pains now.
Having tons of bh, quite fun watching how high they go on the monitor, only 33 and not painful so that's good.

chilli I'm on the raspberry leaf tablets as I don't like tea, been taking them since 32 weeks though, so I'm upping the dose again next week at 35 weeks.

Hope everyone is doing ok xx

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 15:23:50

Hope everything is ok with you and jellybean alyssa xx

lisbapalea Sat 26-Oct-13 15:31:30

frouby we got a really good off roader on eBay for taking over the fields with this baby - a Mountain Buggy Terrain (got it for £80 and they're £400 new). We didn't get a matching carrycot as we have one on our other buggy that we used for DD (when she came we didn't live in the countryside or have a dog, so we had different buggy needs!).
I am pretty sure you can get carrycots to fit the mountain buggy though, also on eBay, so that may be worth a look?

WhatABeautifulPussy Sat 26-Oct-13 15:55:30

A lot of them have a cosy/cocoon (like the Phil and teds) treat than a clip on carrycot.

PinkWitch803 Sat 26-Oct-13 16:01:48

Are you ok alyssa?

BohemianRaspberry Sat 26-Oct-13 16:21:23

Oh no alyssa - if everything okay? Hope you recover (hope work are apologetic!). Stay strong liz - my DH's grandfather stopped cancer treatment and although he had bad days, he was better for it in the long run as he ended things on his terms.

chilli it was me asking about House of Cards ... it's on our list to watch smile

Have tidied up the lounge in anticipation of the health visitor next week and sorting out the nursery more. Hoping the fact that we will be having a wall knocked down in the dining room during the visit won't cause too much distraction/worry.

Pushchair-wise we've gone for the Oyster as we will be travelling to far away in laws and it was the lightest of all of them.

BohemianRaspberry Sat 26-Oct-13 16:22:13

Oh frouby try second hand, gumtree or ebay or a '4x4' style three-wheeler. There's quite a few around.

mumoftwoboysS Sat 26-Oct-13 16:51:39

Re raspberry leaf tea, I was going to start taking it but have read conflicting stuff about taking it if you've had previous quick labours (less than 3 hrs) some say don't take it, others say it only softens/gets the cervix ready for labour and shortens 2nd stage (pushing) not the rest of labour. My last labour was about 3 hours so not sure if I should be taking it! Anyone know?

mumoftwoboysS Sat 26-Oct-13 17:05:54

Just read your post alyssa hope all is ok! I know baby is well protected but must be worrying!

WhisperMen Sat 26-Oct-13 17:12:07

hope you're doing okay alyssa.

Alyssa1978 Sat 26-Oct-13 18:12:14

Hi everyone,

Everything is fine thank god, doctor said the trace was good and my BH are not unusual for me so was happy to let me go home and relax and to go back if any bleeding or bad pain, I'm aching all over but as soon as I came in there was a stack of dishes and dp went straight to bed for a few hours saying he was still going to work, so I've got the bedtime routine to do alone after lo's come home and then ALL of ds1's toys were all over his room for me to clean up and dp left his pan of rice etc on the oven for me to finish cooking for his bait tonight.

I'm now in pain and very pissed off

While I was there a women had come in as she had felt no fetal movement in 24 hours and you could hear them trying to get a heartbeat, it was very slow and in distress and last I heard she as took for an emergency c section.

mum I also heard not to take raspberry leaf if you've had previous quick labours of under or 3 hours. I'm just taking them as mine were 24 and then 25 hours long and I'm hoping upon hoping that this makes the shorter.....fingers crossed.

BohemianRaspberry Sat 26-Oct-13 18:53:51

alyssa that really sucks - hope your evening improves and that you burn his rice get an apology

I'm 33 wks - is it worth taking raspberry leaf? I've never really thought about it.

Chelsealady Sat 26-Oct-13 21:48:46

I officialy found my first stretch mark today not happy sad

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 21:53:01

I thought I'd got away with it too Chelsea but they've all appeared at once. sad

Just at the hospital being checked as think my waters maybe leaking. Just on the monitor. They said for 20mins but it's been over an hour. They are busy though just feel bad if I've wasted their time x

Alyssa1978 Sat 26-Oct-13 22:35:59

stom hope you and bub are ok, I was on the monitor for over an hour too Hun, they were just really busy but there is no such thing as wasting their time when it comes to you and bub.

bohemian thank you Hun, I couldn't bring myself to burn the rice though lol, everywhere I've read says midwives say not go use raspberry leaf before 36ish weeks but apparently it's not meant to put you into labour just prepare the uterus so you have a shorter second stage of labour, but I thought I'd be a bit naughty and start it early blush

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 22:48:43

Yeh. I'm off the monitor now. Just waiting for the doc he's doing a c section at the mo.
Heard a couple babies being born smile
Not looking forward to the spectrum!!

Alyssa1978 Sat 26-Oct-13 23:13:09

That's like de ja vu stom my doc was doing one too lol.
Just think at least after the swab you'll know if it was your waters leaking or not.....thinking of you, let us know you're both ok

MrsShrubs Sat 26-Oct-13 23:18:22

Hope both stom & alyssa are doing okay!!

Had a fab day today, had my first baby shower back at my parents with the people I grew up with and then have another one where I live now in a couple of weeks. My mum did such a great job organising it all today and had such a giggle, both me & baby shrub have been thoroughly spoilt.

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 23:25:57

Docs been. Says doesn't look like my waters are keeling. All looks fine. The spectrum hurt! And has made me bleed a tiny bit and now my fanjo hurts.
I said I'm hyper mobile and he actually took it seriously and said you know your at risk or early labour. Unlike the other doc a few weeks ago that fobbed me off!
They said I didnt waste their time and are glad I came in. And if I'm worried again to call.

Dp was abit disappointed that they didn't say we need to deliver now. Bless him.

Chelsealady Sat 26-Oct-13 23:33:38

stom iv given up on bio oil coco butter and all the rest....my belly is huge im measuring alot bigger than i should so i new it was going to happen. Faced reality and just keep telling myself every mark is worth it!

Alyssa1978 Sat 26-Oct-13 23:36:04

That's good to hear stom make sure you rest when you get home. What does hyper mobile mean??

So jealous of your baby shower mrs so glad you enjoyed it. I've never ever had one sad hinted enough lol but all anyone ever says is....baby gets plenty of stuff when he's here. Yes but I would love to know what pampered feels like hmm

chelsea I never had any stretch marks wih first 2 but I've spotted some low down on my bump with this one, I think it's because I've carried really low from the start. I'm shoving the cocoa butter on all the time now and hopefully it'll stop them from getting worse.

Chelsealady Sat 26-Oct-13 23:46:23

alyssa I am the same I noticed really low under my belly i have them and also around my belly button. I have a wierd feeling i will get loads once she is born as i had them before i was pregnant from the age of 16. I was a size 14 and went down to a size 8 and had them all over my hipssad.

Quick question...does breAst feeding help your boobs go down again or keep them bigger. Iv always been bigger i was an E before pregnancy and always suffered with a bad back but they are totally taking over now i have just outgrown a FF bra!

Stom91 Sat 26-Oct-13 23:46:45

I have extra bendy joints and connective tissues and my ligaments and muscles have to work harder to keep all my joints and connective tissues together. So all the stuff that attaches my body together basically lol.
Makes me really tired all the time and thats before pregnancy.

Yup going home to bed tho am starving so guna have a bite to eat first xx
Hope you and bubs are ok now Alyssa

Chelsea Yeah I've got all the creams but forget to put it on. I've been washing with Palmolive milk and honey and just lathered it all over my bump in the shower and that kept them at bay for a while

meandbumpy Sun 27-Oct-13 00:39:30

Hi guys, another busy day!

I feel a bit stupid over worrying about movement now as bump has been really active today, I guess I'm being a worry wart because it's my first and a steep learning curve. Sorry to cause a fuss.

So sorry to hear about your Grandad Liz. A similar thing happened with my great uncle, he didn't want to go through a lot of unpleasant treatment so was just made to be comfortable in the hospice. He was given 2 years at first but actually had more like 2 months in the end. Although it was a shock and hard for us I think his rapid decline was better for him in that it didn't prolong his suffering. Keep strong thanks

Happy birthday whisper hope you enjoy your day. You're not alone, we're here to celebrate with you, I shall light a candle in a slice of cake in your honour! grin

Glad you enjoyed being pampered Mrs, sounds lovely

Sorry to hear about your scares Alyssa and stom, glad you've been given the all clear and hope you're both managing to get some rest.

Alyssa1978 Sun 27-Oct-13 07:39:04

Never worry about being stupid over movement meand it's always better to be safe with anything like that and I think we are all the same Hun.

Is it your birthday whisper happy birthday if so grin

Ooh stom that hyper mobile thing sounds no fun at all. Hope you and bump are ok.

Well I'm off to work soon as no one to cover my shift sad had a few cramps this morning but they've gone.
Day off tomorrow though and then into last week at work before mat leave starts woooooo hooooo grin

WhisperMen Sun 27-Oct-13 08:22:47

it is indeed my birthday today. Thanks alyssa and meandbumpy grin

glad everyone is okay after hospital visits and the like. enjoy your Sunday everyone.

BohemianRaspberry Sun 27-Oct-13 08:37:05

Happy Birthday whisper

mean it's my first too and every quiet moment has me paranoid. He was quiet this morning and I ended up putting phone on the bump with music and making DH talk to him until he woke up. Poor lad.

Maybe it's the extra hour of sleep but all of a sudden DH is making breakfast for us and it's pancakes. Been told stay in bed. That I can do...

Alyssa1978 Sun 27-Oct-13 08:47:38

Ooh you lucky thing bohemian enjoy. I get dp to do that too lol, I'm always saying to him wake him up he's not moving lol I bet he won't sleep when he comes out to pay me back hmm

chelsea I was always told that if you're gonna get stretch marks nothing will stop them but its not gonna stop me from trying lol. At least if. Have to ge them that they are low down and at the moment can't see them unless I look in the mirror.

happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear whisper, happy birthday to you
cake and flowers for you.....enjoy your day. X

MrsShrubs Sun 27-Oct-13 08:49:54

Happy birthday whisper cake

My stretch marks are awful, mine came in around week 24 and look so angry. I've been using bump butter by cussons morning & night but not sure if its helped at all or not. Knew I'd get them anyway because my skins prone to them from adolescence.

Thanks we had such a good day, my mum had never been to one let alone thrown one so I did all the games for it, was such a giggle. If anyone does have one or is going to one and wants some quizzes let me know and I'll email you them across.

MildredH Sun 27-Oct-13 10:26:45

Happy birthday Whisper! We have a bit of sunshine where we are so I hope you do too! Have a lovely day..

We're off to order the pushchair today- at LAST! Following about 17 trips to look at them I'm going for the M&P Sola. On offer this week with £80 off so DH, mum & I are heading to order as she's offered to buy it.

Got a load of bits at Mothercare yesterday as they had 20% off a lot of things. A tip for anyone with anything big left to buy- if you go on their website you get a further 15% off and seems to work on top of the 20%. We saw a nice cot we were deliberating over so think we'll order it that way and the mattress..

Happy Sunday all.. Our lovely friends have invited us for a roast so am planning a relaxed one! Just have to make an apple crumble to take.. Waiting for DH to go out and pick the apples off the trees in the garden so in the meantime am staying in bed grin.

itsliz Sun 27-Oct-13 12:18:15

Happy Birthday, whisper! Hope you enjoy your day smile thanks cake

Glad to hear you're all making the most of an extra hour in bed and getting spoilt with breakfast! DP decided that the crumpets sitting in the cupboard just weren't exciting enough this morning, so he treated me to a cooked brekkie at the pub just down the road. It was luuurvely, even if it did involve having to get out of bed!

Bohemian and Alyssa, my little one was exactly the same this morning! Much quieter than usual so I kept asking DP to try and wake him up. Think he was just having a lazy Sunday morning lie-in though smile

We went to a Halloween party last night which was really nice. Everyone was stood around chatting in the kitchen though, so of course I was in agony after a couple of hours of standing! I ended up sitting outside for a bit and bless them, half the party relocated to the garden so that I didn't have to sit on my own (even though it was cold and dark!)

Came home feeling absolutely knackered and managed the first good night's sleep I've had in ages (might've been down to the comfy new PJs I bought yesterday!) so hopefully that'll make dragging myself out of bed early for my 31 week appointment a little bit easier tomorrow!

Anyway, hope you all have a lovely Sunday! smile

violetbean Sun 27-Oct-13 12:31:01

Happy Birthday whisper! Have a lovely day. cake thanks

Those of you who've been in hospital, hope you're ok and glad to hear the doctors were reassuring.

Have a good Sunday all!

abcdemma Sun 27-Oct-13 12:31:01

Happy Birthday (again) Whisper smile
Hope everyone who had hospital visits/appointments is now ok and resting up flowers
Busy week for me as on Thursday DP asked me to marry him (squeal) and today is the first day of my Mat Leave grin Boss screwed up my MA documents which prob means I won't get any money through till around the time bambino's due. Thankfully we've got all the baby bits though so it's just Xmas to think about big spending.
Just gonna drag myself out of bed and tidy up a bit before we leave for a few days holiday tomorrow, last escape before all hell breaks loose!
Enjoy your Sunday everyone brew

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 12:44:51

Congratulations abc smile
Happy birthday whisper

So jealous I those who have had breakfast cooked/bought for them!! Dp make his own bacon and eggs and then buggared of. To

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 12:47:56

Urgh stupid phone.
To play golf!! I wouldn't mind but he said he had no money to get me anything for my birthday last week but he has £20 to go play golf! He's put it on the credit card but that's not the point. His excuse was that he doesn't see his cousin much (he's in the army and is away a lot) which is fair enough but still annoyed me a little.

Especially as we only have £10 for food shopping next week. I'm starting and we have nothing to eat he won't go shopping today he wants to wait til after work tomorrow grr wish I could drive !!

And now I'm craving roast dinner!! Send me some my way!!

Have a lazy Sunday all smile

WhisperMen Sun 27-Oct-13 12:58:56

Thankyou for the birthday wishes guys. off for a wander round town to spend my birthday money and then being treated to the cinema and dinner by dp who decided to skive off work as it's the last birthday where it will just be us two. smile smile

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 13:24:08

Awe that's lovely smile enjoy your day xxx

Roselau Sun 27-Oct-13 15:12:24

happy birthday whisper and congrats abc!!! that's so great! how did he ask?

it is a bit worrisome when she stops moving for a while, but I guess it never lasts too long, and she lodges her little foot right under my rib and causes quite a bit of pain. Anyone else with rib pain? any tips? it's starting to get very uncomfortable, and I am really freaked out that I still have 8 weeks of her getting bigger and bigger - my ribs have nowhere else to go! i fear she's going to break one!!

anyways, i'm so lucky that i have no stretch mark yet - knock on wood. i do hear it's genetic and my mom never had any, so keeping my fingers crossed!!

i hope you're all having a great sunday. mine is about to start, but DH has to work so not too sure what i'll do...

MrsShrubs Sun 27-Oct-13 15:53:14

Congratulations abc that's fantastic news!!

I got back after the 2&half hour drive from my parents and got home (DH had to work yesterday so couldn't come) and DH has cleaned the house from top to bottom and done all the washing and a big food shop, the house is immaculate! Nearly burst out into tears when I walked in the house.

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 16:28:06

Awe that's lovely of him mrs it's nice when our blokes do stuff without us having to ask 1000 times !

BohemianRaspberry Sun 27-Oct-13 18:07:35

Shrubs that's lovely smile

feeling dead today, have built a sofa nest and just dozing all the time. Feel like a pudding.

mumoftwoboysS Sun 27-Oct-13 19:52:51

Happy birthday whisper hope you've had a lovely day!

And many congratulations abc!

I haven't got any more stretch marks since my first pregnancy but there's still time! Funny thing is I only got two small ones and they're right on my belly button- almost like a cross that goes through the top of it and it's right where I used to have my belly button pierced. I like it as it's my reminder about how amazing my body is growing a baby (tho I don't want any more-lol!)

Been so productive today- cooked a whole load of apples my mum had from her tree and made a yummy spicy compote, cleaned bathroom, mopped floors, cleaned cloakroom, made Sunday roast and now making soup from the chicken carcass. I think I may collapse any minute now tho! Back killing me. Time for some M&S s

mumoftwoboysS Sun 27-Oct-13 19:53:21

Oops bloody phone. .. Sponge pudding and custard!

Alyssa1978 Sun 27-Oct-13 20:11:59

abc massive congrats Hun, I bet you are over the moon?

Mmmm sponge pudding and custard sounds lovely mum I was craving apple crumble and custard a few days ago, so I bought some aunt Bessie's and it tasted so much better in my head lol.
It sounds like you've well and truly nested today.

mrs that was so nice of him.

Hope you enjoyed your day whisper

MrsShrubs Sun 27-Oct-13 20:12:49

mumoftwo you're like superwoman today well done!!!

BohemianRaspberry Sun 27-Oct-13 21:01:00

Impressed by your motivation mumof I managed to actually get off the sofa and cook and clean the kitchen. Only chicken fajitas but at least it was something! I even managed to clean the hob with it's embedded grease stains.

Still have the old silvered stretch marks from rapid weight gain and subsequent loss so hoping they will be the worst of it ... if I'm lucky.

Sorry for tmi alert but trying to fight off a wave of depression today it seems - hoping to talk it out with the perinatal mental health nurse on Tuesday, because I don't like where my moods are heading at the moment. Anyone else struggling with dep/anx? Any tips?

Chelsealady Sun 27-Oct-13 21:49:06

Bohemian keep busy, ino its hard being so far gone now but the more you do the less you think about things, if things get really bad i usually go for a long walk which is when the dog comes in handy. Hope you start feeling better soon

MrsShrubs Sun 27-Oct-13 21:59:02

Always keep in mind bohemian and anyone else feeling low we're always here to listen, no ones alone here we're all here together. Glad you've got the nurse to speak to on Tuesday as well

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 22:11:11

I just keep dreaming that I die during labour or that I die just after dd is born. It's really worrying me ;/

mumoftwoboysS Sun 27-Oct-13 22:33:40

I was quite surprised at my motivation too but I'll probably do nothing tomorrow now- it comes in bursts! Oh and that was spiced compote not spicy (hot) that would just be weird- even by pregnancy cravings standards!

bohemian talking is always good- is there anyone you can share with to make you feel better? Good idea to mention it to the nurse. I don't feel depressed tho my mood swings are pretty bad ATM. stom those sort of worries are completely normal- I have similar thoughts sometimes but just try and push them aside. I think the unpredictability of birth doesn't help our fears but just remember that we're in good hands when we give birth and I'm sure all will be fine! Hypnotherapy CDs will definitely help ease the anxiety- I recommend them! Even if you don't use it in labour it's great for calming and empowering. We can do it! smile

meandbumpy Sun 27-Oct-13 22:35:20

Congratulations abc!! How did he do it?

I'm so glad I'm not the only one to over worry sometimes. I suppose there'll always be something to worry about from now on! It's getting very exciting now, nearly in November and we're getting ever ready to pop!

There must have been something in the water today because dp cooked our breakfast too and he never cooks! Boiled egg and soldiers with fresh orange and proper coffee, yum smile

It's great that you're seeing the nurse about your feelings Bohemian, do let us know how the appointment goes and as Mrs says remember we're always here to listen. Don't beat yourself up if you find you need a rest day and just want to chill out. Be kind to yourself brew

Stom91 Sun 27-Oct-13 23:11:37

That's mum. I know it's rare I just always think the worst about anything! I'm
Worrying about my dad going out in this storm he starts work at 3am and drives a lorry. I'm hoping he refuses to
Go. But he's not that sort of person. But it's so bad out there. Even the bin men in our area are cancelled!

Dp was having a good chat and play with bump earlier which was lovely. Now she's getting bigger he's becoming more interested in her movements. He put his head on my bump and he's like aww she kicked me head lol bless him.

Going to the BIL tomorrow to sign the tenancy agreement woo smile just wish we could move in sooner. 7th dec seems so far away!

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 06:08:36

Have had another crap sleep - DS in with us from about 1.30 and crying mam!mam!mam! Every time I tried to change position. Plus today's the Big Day - growth scan and we find out our little boy's birthday, assuming he stays put until then!

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 07:30:58

good luck today feather hope everything goes the way you want.

bohemian we're always here to talk if you need us. hope the nurse has some good advice for you and you feel happier soon lovely.

I had a trip to the labour ward last night due to peanut not moving much. of course as soon as im hooked up to the machine baby kicks like a mad thing. made me feel a bit of a fraud. just as they were saying I could go home I got really dizzy and threw up a few times though so had to stay an extra hour and have bloods done. not the best way to end my birthday it has to be said...

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 07:36:52

Woo hoo 35 weeks today

Oh no whisper but at least everything's ok Hun and an extra special treat to hear bubs hb on your birthday smile

bohemian hope you feel better soon and like everyone's said, we are always here to talk, my mood. Swings are atrocious at the minute.

feather good luck today Hun, I've had a crap night sleep too, tossed and turned all night and everytime I emptied my bladder it made my stomach cramp hmm
At least I have a day off work though.

Have a good day everyone xx

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 09:35:30

tmi alert tmi alert

I have been to the toilet 5 times in total yesterday and already twice today, it's not loose so my bot is killing me sad
Anyone else got this? I've had on off cramping all day but only once my belly went tight with it. Seems to have stopped now though so I'm not gonna worry as if I think hard I'm sure I had this last time and it was my cervix thinning but not opening and I still went into labour at 40 weeks exactly, I'm just sure it didn't happen this early last time hmm

BohemianRaspberry Mon 28-Oct-13 10:53:45

continuation of tmi

Alyssa it may be a bit of IBS and trapped wind making you not as 'consistent' - also for me it has been the multi-vits just slowing everything down and making it more crampy and uncomfortable. Last ngiht, I thought I was having really bad BH but it was just a combination of both Junior and gut beating me up.

As a more practical aftercare solution, invest in some of those moist toilet tissues - especially the aloe vera ones. They are so helpful, plus if the windowsil of your loo is cold, keep them up there for cooling of bot afterwards.

I also recommend dried apricots as a less vicious and more tasty way to get things 'softer'. No way in hell am I drinking that cheap=orange-squash-with-added-ground-doormat fibogel nonsense. thlgrin

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 11:33:09

Hi all- (waves at everyone) know this is ridiculously late to be joining a "due in Dec" thread so hope people don't think I am being cheeky but really want to slow down a bit now and start thinking about the birth and chatting with people who are at a similar stage to me. I am due 22nd Dec with no.2 and feel like I've barely had time to think about being pregnant so reading about people packing hospital bags etc has made me think its not that far away and I should start trying to get prepared! Hope everyone is feeling well today and is having lots of movement which I think is one of the most exciting parts smile

BohemianRaspberry Mon 28-Oct-13 11:42:02

Hi overreaction - welcome to the thread! We're all fighting hospital visits, rejoicing in eating everything we shouldn't and comparing biological irritants cake

itsliz Mon 28-Oct-13 12:00:01

Welcome, mrsoverreaction! We're a friendly bunch and all enjoy a good natter, so don't worry about being cheeky - the more the merrier! Do you know whether you're having a boy or a girl? Or a surprise?!

Whisper, so glad to hear everything's ok with you and bump! Hope the sickness and dizziness clears up soon and at least you got to listen to little one as an extra birthday treat! Maybe that's why he/ she was playing up, so that they could wish you a happy birthday wink

And a huge congratulations to you, emma! Where, when, how, etc did he propose?! You'll have to tell us the details so we can all get jealous grin

Alyssa, not sure what to suggest but I completely agree with Bohemian on the moist toilet tissues - I don't know how I coped before discovering Andrex wipes! Spotted them in Poundland the other day and I think they were on offer in Sainsbury's recently, too...

DP surprised me by popping out of work for a couple of hours to drive me to my 31 week appointment this morning, so that I wouldn't have to wear myself out braving the stormy weather! He's been so lovely and thoughtful lately bless him, think the reality of the whole situation is finally starting to sink in!

All went well at the doctors though, had my flu jab and got booked in for a whooping cough jab next week (once again being reminded that I'm so far behind the rest of you!)
Turns out little one is measuring spot on for dates now too, which has put my mind at ease as they said he was ever so slightly on the larger side last time! smile

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:03:01

Welcome overreaction
I'm due 21st dec! smile
Don't worry I haven't packed my bag yet still waking for it to arrive! I've still got bits to buy yet. But getting there slowly!!

My boss is still bugging me to do this elearning ! I'm on mat leave! bugger off!!

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 12:12:09

welcome overreaction. we love a good natter and everyone's welcome grin

I feel like death today. had my 32 week mw appointment which meant I had to do the two mile walk there and back which hasnt helped matters. im now getting waves of pain low down which is pissing me off as I just want a nap. sad

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 12:18:21

Thanks all! It's lovely that other people are due so close to me smile We don't know what we're having- love the surprise. I must admit I haven't read ALL the many threads that started many moons ago but have read this one to get a heads up on what people are experiencing. Remember going into the mau to have a trace put on the heartbeat with DD and worrying that I was being a nuisance but leaving feeling v re-assured by the lovely, calm mws so I understand what people are going through. Having loads of movement with this one so if it slowed down / stopped I'd be straight in there getting checked out!

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 12:22:00

The only things I am struggling with at the mo are feeling pretty pathetic (when DD wants carrying, getting DH to do nearly everything) and bad reflux. One thing I would be interested to hear about though is people who already have a toddler and how they are coping. We are experiencing quite a stroppy, grumpy phase with plenty of tantrums and am getting mildly terrfified that she may still be going through it when no2 arrives (or that she'll regress as I've heard happens, unsurprisingly).

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 12:24:46

Whisper- you poor thing! 2mile walk there and back! I would really struggle with that. No buses obs? Are you able to go and have a rest now? I've had a very lazy morning so far and am torn between feeling lazy and feeling entitled wink No such thing as a 32wk appt for me though- is this because it's your first?

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 12:25:43

How do I "tag" people???

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:29:10

whisper I would say have a bath but with what happened last time maybe avoid that lol

When I went to the hospital the other night they were so busy but so reassuring and didn't mind one bit. Even dp was surprised at how nice they were. Think that put him at ease abit too (he hates hospitals)

Dtd last night after about 4 months (sorry tmi) must have been the storm as dp had banned me lol it was so nice to feel close to him again though if that makes sense? Though after I did have a horrible thought that labour would start lol nothing yet though which is good!

MrsShrubs Mon 28-Oct-13 12:29:54

Welcome mrsoverreaction flowers

So so excited, I've just spoken to work and after southeastern rail being awful last week and again today the commute is just getting to me so I've asked if I can bring everything forward by a week and leave on 15th November (annual leave for over a week and then my maternity leave will kick in) and they said yes! So excited to only have a couple of weeks left now smile

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:30:56

To make it bold do * name * but no spaces xx

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 12:32:09

Yay mrsshrubs that not long at all can't believe it's the end of October already!!

Mrsoverreaction Mon 28-Oct-13 12:41:31

That's impressive Stom! Last time we dtd I felt crap and nauseous for the whole next day so can't see it happening again wink Very good news Shrub, get resting! I stop on 15th Nov but already dropped a shift so winding down gradually thankfully.

Chelsealady Mon 28-Oct-13 12:41:47

I just keep telling myself its only 1 full month left...(if my little lady doesn't decide she wants to be a 2014 baby)! Cant believe it its gone so fast!!

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 12:55:10

nope no busses sadly overreaction I have to walk everywhere anyway as we are too skint to afford busses. I didn't know 32 week appointments weren't a standard though. I guess it's just the way it's run in my city.

MildredH Mon 28-Oct-13 12:57:29

Welcome overreaction..

Whisper- how about some paracetamol, hot chocolate and snuggle down with a wheat bag/ hot water bottle to see if you can nap..

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 13:01:01

Mines a 33 week one whisper. I think they're less frequent if you've already had a baby x

Haha yea it was nice overreaction lol I feel ok today just tired and rather lazy. Only just had a shower lol.

Dp was moanin about all the lie in I've been having. I told him I'm making the most of them before dd gets here! He then agreed and told me to enjoy them haha

MildredH Mon 28-Oct-13 13:02:52

I think 32 weeks might be first timers only.. I was seen around then- next one next week supposed to be 36 weeks.

Slightly anxious about them feeling for position at 36wk- midwife def not convinced gizmo was head down last time and a midwife friend had a feel yesterday and said was unstable lie- first off oblique then transverse blush. I know I would refuse an ECV so it mean a section.

I must actually start getting on with things- err pack bag (!!), nursery.. Got 4.5 weeks til EDD..

13loki Mon 28-Oct-13 13:04:00

hi Mrsoverraction getting prepared is over rated. I'm due Decmber 1st and haven't even started the hospital bag yet. Well, I think I found a few outfits for the baby last night while sorting out the clothes we shoved in no order into vacuum bags when we moved.

Dried apricots are definately the way forward, I will take them as a snack to hospital, too

mumoftwoboysS Mon 28-Oct-13 13:12:34

Hello Mrsoverreaction I have the same due date as you! But I'm on my third smile I must be mad
I also haven't got my hospital bag ready or anything!

How old is your toddler? Ds2 is 2 1/2 and just potty trained so I'm a bit worried about regression and jealousy issues but at least he has his brother to play with. We had major jealousy issues with ds1 when #2 came along but every child is different so you may be lucky!

Talking about dtd, every time we try I find it a bit painful and the next day worse (due to the varicose veins I have in undesirable places!) I feel sorry for DH tho, they just don't get how sometimes it's hard to get in the mood when you have indigestion, aches and pains and baby doing the cancan in your uterus. Passion killer? Just a tad!!

DH keeps saying to me I don't need him for sex anymore now I've got the babies I wanted- lol!

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 13:54:19

dtd we never really stopped blush but I still can't resist him lol don't tell him that though, I guess it is hard to find the right ahem position but don't worry stom it hasn't started my labour yet lol.

Welcome mrsoverreaction this is my third ds1 is 3 in November and ds2 turned one in July but ds1 was fine with ds2 not really too jealous but he's had the terrible twos this time around but I think he would've had that regardless. He is really clingy lately but he's always been mummy's boy grin
I think ds2 is going to be very jealous when this baby arrives.

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 13:54:44

I'm considering myself very lucky no varicose veins! My stretch marks have started to appear. Sex has always hurt for me so kinda used to it. Just felt abit sore after and today my lower tummy hurts bit I think that's cos I used muscles I hadn't used for a while!! Haha
But i didn't care about the sex so much it was just nice to be close to dp again. I was surprised he asked lol usually it's a no no and it's too weird for him.

He had a really lovely day doing nothing just watching films and he was really chatting with bump and playing with bump etc it was so nice to see usually he's not bothered.
I think the scared the other night made it abit more real for him. X

meandbumpy Mon 28-Oct-13 14:10:55

TMI - Oh Alyssa I have the opposite problem! The doctor gave me 3 weeks worth of laxatives that had only just started to take affect when they ran out last week and now I feel like I'm back to square one. It's so frustrating, when I eat it takes ages to persuade the food to stay in my stomach then when it's finally convinced it won't bloody well come out again at the other end!! Woke myself up retching lastnight as I'd gone to bed without leaving long enough for my food to settle, my system has well and truly lost the plot, lol confused

Welcome Mrsoverreaction Haven't got nearly enough ready either and we're also moving house when I'm 36 weeks so don't worry we're all in the same boat! [snile]

Hope you manage a nap whisper

We've been managing to dtd a reasonable amount but it's definitely not passion central. I get mega BH afterwards though and it's starting to make me paranoid. This is definitely TMI but.....dp is a boobs kind of guy and the other day whilst he was enjoying himself in that area I mentioned that sooner or later he could be doing that and some milk could come out! He looked so horrified I thought I'd put him off for life!! grin Sorry for being gross!

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 14:15:39

Sorry meandbumpy but that's last bit made me
Laugh lol. My dp keeps asking when my milk wil start coming out. He says he wants to try some! hmm weirdo!

I'm also moving when I'm 38 weeks! It's cutting it too fine for my liking but that's the earliest date they would
Give us!

I'm due 21st but dp has the 14 in his head and I can't get the 9th dec out of mine so we shall see The 9th is 2 days after the move!! It's just a feeling I've got!

meandbumpy Mon 28-Oct-13 14:21:16

Haha, I don't see what's wrong with trying it, got to be more natural than drinking a cow's milk? Thought it was only considerate of me to warn him that it could happen though, lol

LadyMedea Mon 28-Oct-13 14:57:24

We attempted dtd on Sunday night, first time in ages as unlike all the books say I've had no sex drive and very weirdly my clitoris no longer seemed to feel connected to anything confused. Well it seems to have reconnected now but couldn't master the right positions so gave up and did other stuff instead. I really miss missionary position as I like to be cuddled.

Really enjoyed my pregnancy massage so booked another for ten days time. I highly recommend them!

Bump is definitely head down but keeps swinging round to back to back - naughty! So I'm spending a lot if time sitting upright or meaning over an exercise ball so I doesn't get the idea that it can stay there!

Roselau Mon 28-Oct-13 14:59:09

ahh all this talk of dtd... we haven't done it in a few months. he's scared of 'poking' the baby's head. especially now that she's head down. it's nonsense, he knows it, but hey that's life.

hi overreaction. i'm due the day before you and i have nothing ready. found a few clothes, but i dont even really know what i need to be honest. I think i'll play it by ear. it's nice here that you don't really need to pack an elaborate hospital bag because they give you everything you need (you pay through the nose though so I guess it's fair - even with insurance, this delivery will cost us something like $4000).

lisbapalea Mon 28-Oct-13 15:07:59

Welcome mrsoverreaction! I am also due dc#2 (don't know the gender) on 22nd Dec! Although I am aiming for an elcs so if the dr's "allow" that, then my due date is more likely to be around 16th Dec.

My DD is 3.5 and is generally pretty good and excited by the new arrival but I am sure she will regress a bit when the time comes.

I had to pick her up early from preschool today as she was sick - in fact she projectile vomited over one of her friends (poor friend!!). So I am spending the next couple of days trying to avoid her lurgy germs, and also enjoying lots of cbeebies!

Very impressed by the talk of dtd - have to say we've been rubbish and not really done it since the bfp; I am totally not interested and was the same when pg with DD. Poor dh, but he's being very understanding!

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 15:28:22

Lol stom dp had a squeeze the other day and decided himself he would try it lol said it tasted sweet hmm

meand I get the bh too, gotten used to them now lol.

Lol rose tell him if he wants to park his car in the garage then it's fine as the baby is safely tucked up in the house smile

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 15:57:27

hahah Alyssa that made me chuckle!!
dp been saying that he didn't want to do it because and i quote 'what if she pokes her hand out!?'

ive always had a higher sex drive than dp.... it went away for a while and the dp didnt want to do anything because it was too weird for him. then he asked last night... im still getting over the shock haha he's not overly fused when it comes to hanky panky lol

so changing subject - my boss is still bugging me to do this E-leaning but its not an actually course with anything important its just an in house thing that you do, you cant take the certificates with you if you leave, Plus i'm on maternity leave and it can easily wait until i go back next year, its just a refresher thing.
he's such a useless boss i've asked him to send my my wage slips and he hasnt - im not sure whether to call head office and to tell then im on mat leave which is why i haven't done the e-learning. plus i don't have a laptop only my phone so it'll be difficult to do anyway! Was thinking about asking head office about my annual leave that they owe me too! (boss said i wasnt entitled to it before i went on mat leave but found out that i was)

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 16:12:43

last time we tried to DTD I ended up having to go and throw up halfway through. It was so romantic hmm DP hasn't tried it on since. I feel mean as I know he has needs but I am exhausted and in pain and he understands.

I am pretty annoyed at him though at the moment. He does nothing round the house at all. I haven't done anything the last few days as I have been shattered or busy and instead of helping and washing up his plates he just piles them in the sink. Do all men just not understand that there isn't a magic fairy that cleans up or is it just my DP?

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 16:41:12

Hi all, wow, a lot of chat to catch up on today! Just waiting to see consultant, the clinic's running an hour and a quarter behind, it's only 8 minutes past my appointment time so will be here a while. Scan fine, little boy is still breech, which I'm actually relieved about as it means I'm less likely to have anyone try to pressure me into a VB if I come in in pre-term labour. I haven't felt him turn and he's been breech the last 2 scans so think the MW must have mistaken a head for a bottom last week! Will catch up on other posts while I'm waiting smile

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 16:41:24

No mine thinks a magic fairy lives in our house whisper

stom just tell your boss you'll be too busy with a new bang to do any e learning and you were definately entitled to your hols so indeed contact your head office and get the to sort it.

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 16:44:18

Oops baby not bang hmm

mumoftwoboysS Mon 28-Oct-13 17:00:19

Oh no whisper I really struggled to dtd in first tri when feeling queasy, 2nd tri and early third I was quite up for it- mojo reappeared! Now it's well and truly fled and I can't see it coming back. But DH shouldn't feel too hard done by, with ds1 & 2 I just didn't care if we never did it again!

And my DH will put stuff in the dishwasher but he never cleans the worktops and leaves his dirty washing in a heap on the floor. They definitely think that stuff gets magically done!!

feather must be nice to know which way baby is- I have no idea and mw didn't check @ my last apt. Do they onl start doing it @ 34 wk check up? I think baby may be head down, legs and arms are mostly kicking on rh side and only little wriggles down low- feel like arms/hands. But I'm no expert! I'm the opposite tho, my worst fear is having a breech baby, but then I've only ever had normal VB in the past...

BohemianRaspberry Mon 28-Oct-13 17:05:09

Poor DD lisbapalea hope she is better soon

In terms of dtd we generally average out once a week or so - finding it a little uncomfortable now and like you Lady I miss the missionary for cuddling.

Junior has been spinning, rolling, kicking and punching all day. Probably because I've been propped up on the sofa, builder-sitting not doing terribly much. Must stop being so lazy.

PistachioTruffle Mon 28-Oct-13 17:10:43

Just marking my place, I'll be back later to try and catch up!

meandbumpy Mon 28-Oct-13 17:19:17

Mine simply doesn't see dirt whisper, he will clean something if I ask but otherwise wouldn't even notice it needed doing. I don't mind doing the cleaning because he works and I don't but I do get annoyed with him being so messy. We have a cup in the bathroom for the toothpaste and brushes and he never puts his brush back in, just leaves it on the side next to it, drives me crazy!

itsliz Mon 28-Oct-13 17:34:36

mumoftwo I'm 31 weeks today and they've checked baby's position for the last 3 or 4 appointments, so I was under the impression it was just standard practice. Might be another one of those things that varies depending on where you are in the country though...
Little man's been either head down or horizontal the last few times so I'm hoping that's a good sign!
I've mostly felt movements low down or to the side, so I'd assume that means your little one is head down too smile

My sex drive has always been a lot higher than DP's, so I think being pregnant has brought us down to about the same level, haha! We've managed to dtd at least once a week, but I don't know how much longer we'll be able to keep that up for now that I'm getting so much bigger and feeling more rubbish...

Oh and whisper, when it comes to the washing up (and in fact, housework in general) DP insists that I leave it because he doesn't want me squashing bump up against the sink or hurting my back from standing, which is all well and good but he's so busy at work and so knackered at the weekends that it never gets done unless I step in!
Oh the glamorous life of a domestic goddess...

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 18:06:08

Well, unless he decides to turn up early like his brother, DS2 will be born on 21st November!!! That's 3 weeks on Thursday, which is absolutely terrifying!!!

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:23:39

Wow feather that's so soon!! Argh this is all getting too real now!

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 18:26:11

Good god. How can it be 3 weeks until the 21st november? Where has this year gone? <hyperventilates> I'm freaking out, I don't know about you feather

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 18:29:53

Freaking out doesn't quite cover it...

itsliz Mon 28-Oct-13 18:30:57

Ahhh feather, that's so exciting!!! Albeit a little bit scary...
Have you got most things ready yet or are the next 3 weeks going to be spent dashing round the shops?!

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 18:32:07

cake to calm your nerves feather

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:35:44

Wow feather is that a c section date Hun?
I wish I was due to give birth in 3 weeks, that's so close I bet you're getting excited?

I think me and dp have the same sex drive but mine never really disappeared this time, although when pregnant with ds2 I will admit we never dtd after that second pink line popped up blush until after the birth and the bleeding stopped, I just wasn't in the mood poor bloke lol

Thanks everyone for the moist wipes hint, I will definately be buying some.

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:36:55

How many weeks will you be then feather

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 18:42:11

That'll be 38 weeks on the dot! I think I've just about got everything, need more nappies as so far have only 1 pack, and need to get a formula starter pack in case it's needed, ooh and some peppermint tea bags and drinking straws. Really can't think of anything else! I'll do a hospital bag inventory nearer the time and you can all help me check I've got everything.

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 18:43:08

Sorry, yes it's a section date!

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:51:11

I'm so excited you'd think it was me lol

WhisperMen Mon 28-Oct-13 18:54:52

what on earth do you need drinking straws for? Well obviously for drinking, but that wasn't something I had considered.

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 18:56:51

So you can have sips of drink during labour. They're easier to drink out of xx

itsliz Mon 28-Oct-13 19:00:02

I read something recently about taking drinking straws so that your partner can help you to have a drink while you're in labour and not in a position to get things for yourself.
There might be more to it, but that was the general gist of it...

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 19:04:46

The straws are so I can get a drink without having to sit up as that really hurts with an abdominal wound!

LadyMedea Mon 28-Oct-13 19:05:11

Added straws to my hospital snack bag this weekend! Along with jelly babies grin

itsliz Mon 28-Oct-13 19:22:49

Ahhh, that makes sense! It did occur to me after posting that the same logic might not apply if you're having a c-section...! Definitely worth remembering though.

Lady, Jelly Babies are a brilliant idea! Putting those on my list straight away!
I've got most toiletries and a few clothes sorted for me, but hardly anything for baby and no drinks or snacks at all yet!
Maybe we should all start comparing hospital bag lists soon so that we don't end up forgetting anything important?!

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 19:38:44

I haven't started mine yet sad waiting for mr postie to bring it.
Love jelly babies

When I do mine I shall be comparing it to all yours!

Alyssa1978 Mon 28-Oct-13 19:49:40

I thought I was almost finished mine just needed breast feeding bras and was gonna get measured at 37 weeks for those but I've realised I don't have snacks of any kind and the hospital has pop/water in vending machines everywhere so I'm not going to pack any of that.

What snacks do I take? I never took any with last 2 and I don't like jelly babies lol well apart from the one in my belly I've realised too I have no shoes in my bag incase my waters break all over the ones I'm wearing but all the shoes I own are too tight thanks to my huge pregnancy feet confused

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 20:20:21

Just had 'the chat' with DH about when he wants his dad to come to see the new baby. I was so shell-shocked when DS was born I was more concerned about keeping everyone else happy, and ended up with MIL sitting on my sofa for 13 hours a day when we brought him home, so it's unsurprising I never got bf going properly with that on top of all of the other issues we had! PIL moved a 5 hour drive away while I was pregnant with DS (think the conversation went 'PIL, we have news, you're going to be grandparents!' Response - 'oh, that's unexpected, well we have news too, we've sold our house and we're moving to the other end of the country'), MIL subsequently died when DS was 9mo and FIL has stayed where they moved to.

Anyway, as expected, DH said he'd just let his dad know the date of the section and leave it up to him when to come visit, but said he'd probably come up on the day. He looked all surprised when I said no! And I've also vetoed him staying at ours - I've said he can come stay at SIL's but the same visitation rules will apply to him as will apply to my family, short visits of no more than an hour, with leaving time prearranged and a promise not to be offended if he's asked to leave sooner. Am I being unfair? I just want to be able to settle into my new family with the new baby, recover from major surgery in peace and try to get bf established. I don't feel I can do this if I have people in the house!

Stom91 Mon 28-Oct-13 20:26:10

feather I think that's very reasonable. I would do the same in your position. You want to settle into your new family not worry about who had enough tea or not

And I'd hate to see family straight away.
Luckily my dp has been very reasonable and doesn't want anyone to see baby at least for the first day.

Chilli81 Mon 28-Oct-13 22:12:00

hello all and welcome newcomers.
I feel pretty bad on dp but really dont fancy dtd at the moment. We have been reasonably active (once every week or two) during the pregnancy but now I just feel like a whale and so unsexy and the thought of leaking breast milk really doesn;t do it for me.
Feather I dont think you are being unreasonable. It's a really special time and what you think and need are what matter. Saying that I come from a big and close family and had 13 people in the waiting room when DS1 was born (although thankfully I didn;t know it at the time). Personally I didn't mind having people around as I felt like I could just leave them to it and go to our bedroom with DS1 if I needed to and wouldn't offend anyone but it's such a personal choice and also really depends what you are used to culturally.

Featherbag Mon 28-Oct-13 22:26:00

Having a bit of a wobble now things are getting more real - just been looking at sleepy DS cuddling up to his bunny and thinking, how on earth do I find enough love for another one? Surely I can't possibly love a second one as much as DS? And what if DS thinks I love him less? Will I love him less? Ladies with 2 or more already - I'm being silly, right?!

Feather it's not the love side I'm worrying about, it's coping with 2. DD is nearly 3 and a half and like any child her age can be a total pain in the arse on the odd occasion, I'm just finding it really hard to cope with at the moment. How am I going to manage with a newborn too?
DP is already leaving everything to me as I'm not working anymore, think I will start telling him I need more help. I don't think he realises just how tired and achy I am all the time, goodness knows how those of you with SPD etc are coping. thanks

On the bright side my pram liner and mattress came yesterday so think that's just about everything bought for now. Do want to get a breast pump and bottles but not planning to start expressing for the first few weeks at least so no rush, time to start on the christmas shopping I suppose grin

Alyssa1978 Tue 29-Oct-13 07:32:10

feather that's a perfectly normal response to another baby and one i also had.
You will love this baby just as much as soon as its little face is staring up at you, I'm not gonna lie.....ds1 will always be my baby, he was my first born and I waited so long for him but I don't love him more than ds2, it's hard to explain, it's just there's this special bond with him being my first.

clare you will cope fine Hun I promise, it takes s little getting used to but once you find your routine you'll be fine.

Must get off to work now......5 shifts left before I start mat leave grin

Chelsealady Tue 29-Oct-13 08:19:40

clare i got a tommytippe breast pump with 10 bottles off of Amazon brand new £30.

Featherbag Tue 29-Oct-13 08:28:53

My first thought on waking after extracting DS's toes from my nose was '3 weeks and 2 days'. Oh my god!

Thanks for the tip chelsea

While nosing about on amazon noticed they had a medela swing pump (which I had last time and got on well with) for £86 rather than the RRP of £130 so ordered that, a couple of bottles and some replacement valves just in case. That's one more thing off the list! smile

Finally have a day with DD at nursery, no appointments and no deliveries to wait in for, think I might have a day in town mooching (slowly) round the shops

Featherbag Tue 29-Oct-13 10:04:47

Just been musing on baby names. My aunt has looked up my 2 favourites and called to tell me she votes for Isaac (means 'he will laugh') over Luke ('light bringer'). But Benedict, which I vetoed early on, is actually starting to creep back in as a possibility! Poor DH keeps suggesting perfectly decent names which I instantly dismiss as 'nice, but it isn't his name'.

Featherbag Tue 29-Oct-13 10:06:06

That's a bargain Clare ! Enjoy your mooch!

Anyone used a nursing pillow before? Do I need one? Slightly panicking about only having 1 payday left between now and birth!

Mrsoverreaction Tue 29-Oct-13 10:13:32

Once a week! I'm impressed. Feeling increasingly sorry for my DH...

Mrsoverreaction Tue 29-Oct-13 10:15:30

Featherbag I love my maternity pillow. Have a dreamgeniie and it's great for sleeping now and for feeding baby later. Cases are a nightmare to get on though- DH ripped one last week so have had to buy another.

Mrsoverreaction Tue 29-Oct-13 10:19:15

Featherbag this is such a difficult and emotionally fraught area but you are right to stick to your guns and make your wants and expectations clear right from the get go. It is totally your decision. And it seems reasonable if there is somewhere else he can stay. Good luck with it. I have very over enthusiastic ILs and had to be quite firm when DD arrived. One rule was no unexpected visits - they had to be invited or at least get in touch to check it was convenient.

This time round I've got a widgey breastfeeding pillow (only as I got one for £4 from a baby sale) but last time I just used pillows off the bed to prop baby up for feeds

Mrsoverreaction Tue 29-Oct-13 10:26:52

MildredH can I ask why you are so keen to avoid an ECV? I had one with DD after midwife failed to be able to tell position and I was a bit annoyed with her as she left it quite late and then finally said "would you mind going for another scan?" Me: "Of course not!" Baby was successfully turned by a fabulous MW and I was so relieved that I was able to have a VB. LadyMedea good on you for having a pregnancy massage; they are great aren't they? Must get mine booked... Had two last time and enjoyed them so much smile mumoftwo my DD will be 2yr11months when no2 is born. She's very maternal so think she will be quite sweet and caring BUT she is also having a lot of full on tantrums at the mo which I am finding v stressful and emotionally tiring sad And to the people moving house- gosh that does make me feel pathetic that I can't even keep up with the housework! Best of luck with your moves!

thedizzy1 Tue 29-Oct-13 10:28:43

Feather that's so exciting! I don't get my section date for two more weeks- so jealous! I was really worried when I had dd that I wouldn't be able to love her as much as ds, but I really do. It's a different kind of love but its overwhelming. Now that we're expecting dd2 I have the same doubts though!
Clare how old is your dc? Im thinking of starting dd in nursery for a day or two a week- really struggling to be a fun mummy at the moment. Plus we have riduculous amounts to do before baby comes, and achieving anything with dd1 around is a forlorn hope! Enjoy your mooch.

DD is three and a half, as both DP and I were working full time she has been in full time nursery for ages. We will have to cut the hours down as can't justify paying £500 per month when I'm bit at work, though we both get Childcare vouchers which saves. Going to email the nursery later for some prices, she does love going there though!

13loki Tue 29-Oct-13 14:04:07

That's one of the things I love about livimg in Sweden. Lola just turned 3 and her fulltime nursery is about £90 a month. Once I am on maternity leave she can only go 15 hours a week (Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, 5 hours a day) but it will be free. She's just changing now feom a big nursery that was wonderful but 20 minutes from home to family daycare 5 minutes walk from home (sometimes I will drop her off at the child minders house across the road).

Yeterday I felt wonderful, I felt lkke I could almost jog home from the local shops. Today I am close to tears my pelvis hurts so much.

froubylou Tue 29-Oct-13 14:18:09

Afternoon all.

You have been busy chatting lol. Been following but not had much to say really.

Just popped in to let you know primark have some nice and cheap nightware at the min. There are a couple of button up nightshirts, proper sleep shirt style for £7 I think. A few vest and short sets which looked nice and some normal night shirts that go up to size 22 and fit over huge knockers and a reasonable sized bump! Got 2 of the normal nighties for my bag. I am planning on using my cropped maternity leggings for pj bottoms so won't be flashing tummy lifting nightie up to feed in hospital.

They also have slippers at £3 I think.

Feel a bit more organised now lol.

Going to wash all baby clothes next week and get those away and just start buying a few bits each week.

Ache from top to toe today. Bought new carpet cleaner at weekend and instead of doing a room ay a time did it all yesterday. Carpets look lovely and bright. I can scarecly fecking move lol. J.x

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 14:39:35

That's frouby I was thinking of popping into Portsmouth primary next week so glad it won't be a wastes trip.
Going to start getting bits for my bag
And I only have one pair of comfy bottoms which are fithly so had to reluctantly put then in the wash lol (I only wear them round the house)
Really need to get a comfy pair of black trousers. None of mine fit

Feeling abit lonely today - no one from work has called or texted to see how I am neither have any of my 'friends' dp is pretty much my only friend I always look forward to him coming home but sometimes he's so tired he just sleeps.

My brother popped in with a bar of chocolate on his lunch break bless him.
Had a tidy up and a Hoover and then had a bath and baby went crazy smile
Now just sat til I start dinner at half 6.
I'm actually looking forward to being busy when baby is hear. Can't complain I'm bored then lol

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 14:40:03

That was meant to say thanks frouby

Roselau Tue 29-Oct-13 15:15:24

lol Alyssa, when I read your comment about parking the car in the garage, my DH was right next to me and I started laughing out loud, so I had to explain the conversation that was going on... hum. haha

feather how exciting! you will probably be the first one to have your LO! I can't believe I am due a whole month after you. seems short, but feels verrrry long.

with regards to family around at the birth, I'm so relieved that there should not be anyone here. but my parents want to come as soon as possible (i.e. end of December - I'm due on the 21st). While people say it's great to have your mum around, mine just stresses me out. I have a lot of anxiety I'm dealing with at the moment, and everyone around me has been so great: telling me I'll be good at this, I'm making the right decisions and everything will go fine. except my mum who thinks her job is to make sure I'm as stressed out as possible. She managed to tell me when we were together back in London that she really doesn't see me doing this. The words are still resonating in my head. Anyways long story to say that I'm not looking forward to having her around to stress me out. At least I said that no one is allowed to stay over in January and that's a hard rule.

WhisperMen Tue 29-Oct-13 15:16:39

ooh thanks for the tip frouby I shall go in tomorrow.

I know what you mean storm I'm always on my own apart from when DP isn't at work. It sucks doesn't it? I have downloaded the entire 7 seasons of Gilmore Girls so that is keeping me entertained at the moment.

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 15:21:29

It sucks indeed. I'm watching being Erica smile

rose ignore your mum you will do a great job. Regardless of what she things. The best is all we can do xx

meandbumpy Tue 29-Oct-13 16:09:14

I know how you feel stom I'm stuck on my own all week at the moment as dp is working away. Feeling pretty miserable about it today actually, I've come over really tired so having to rest but so bored. Can't wait to move and be with dp and have the baby so I've got a purpose in life again. Right now I feel a bit lost, isolated and useless.
It's funny, people keep chuckling at me and saying what hard work it will be and how I'll be so busy running around after the baby. Well I say bring it on because at least then I'll have something to do and can stop feeling like a nothingness. I felt like this when I was made redundant, that feeling of having nothing in particular to wake up for in the morning is awful.

Not long to go now though ladies and at least we can have a moan and a chat on here!

MrsShrubs Tue 29-Oct-13 17:01:06

Rose have every faith that you are going to be a great mother, all any of us can do is our best. Definitely filter out any negative comments like that and try not to let them get to you, you know how you feel yourself about having a baby not anyone else. Your mum will soon be eating her words.

So so so tired this week, don't know where any of my energy has gone!

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 17:48:06

meandbumpy couldn't have said it better myself that's exactly how I feel. I bet I'll be less tired and and less bored and feel like I have purpose again once little one is here.
I know it's only 7 weeks for me til due date but it still feel like it's years away!!
I just want to move into my new house
So I can wash babies clothes and get her room ready it'll give me something to do. But I'm not moving until I'm 38 weeks!! Which in my opinion is far too close to due date for my liking lol xx

Alyssa1978 Tue 29-Oct-13 17:53:06

Lol rose I was telling dp what was going on too but he just said*you always did have a strange way of explaining things* lol I think I put it perfectly lol grin
I also think you'll make a great mother Hun, I was probably the least maternal person ever until I got pregnant with ds1 now I love babies.....still stopping at 3 though hmm

I think my energy must've gone to the same place as yours mrs although dp did a hell of a lot of fidgiting last night and kept me awake a lot.

MrsShrubs Tue 29-Oct-13 18:26:28

TMI alert just went to the loo and my discharge smells really sweet, does amniotic fluid smell sweet??

WhisperMen Tue 29-Oct-13 18:28:18

I thought sweet smelling discharge was something to be checked out. It could be amniotic fluid. Give the labour ward a ring and see what they say.

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 18:43:26

Amniotic fluid smells like sweet hay apparently.
I'd give labour ward a call to be on the safe side
I went the other day because I thought I was leaking turns out I wasn't but they were so happy I called just incase!

MrsShrubs Tue 29-Oct-13 18:46:03

Will give them a call when I'm off the train, I'm not soaking or anything just wonder if I've sprung a leak sad

Stom91 Tue 29-Oct-13 18:55:50

It my just be excess discharge. That's what mine was. But better to check smile hope it's nothing serious xx

BohemianRaspberry Tue 29-Oct-13 19:17:22

whisper, *stom and mean - I feel it too DH is working late tonight and so I feel a little lonely (although this thread is no end of help!!). Doesn't help that I've had to spend an hour today talking about it to the perinatal mental health nurse - get to walk past the teenage pregnancy appts (my appts always seem to clash with this clinic!) with luminous red eyes and sniffles.

And mean I can totally empathise, people keep saying 'enjoy the time off' and 'you'll wish you had it back when he comes along' but I feel I have lost all purpose.

Shrubs I get similar but I was told by the midwife that unless I was soaking pantyliners throughout the day then not to worry. Still ring though smile

Rose I love my mum to bits but having her at the birth will just send my anxiety levels sky rocketing - I can just imagine actually pushing the baby out whilst checking that she has everything she needs and cleaning the delivery suite

Roselau Tue 29-Oct-13 19:35:31

thanks for reassuring me. I think I'll be ok, because I don't see why I wouldn't be, but hey it's always annoying when the person who should believe in you the most is totally unsupportive. She's actually just angry because I decided to move to the US. I well I am ignoring her.

mean, whisper, stom, bohemian I think we're all in the same boat. I've always been such an achiever, working on my career etc, and right now I'm wondering what my purpose is... I know I'm cooking a human being, but it's still a bit hard to deal with the loneliness sometimes. ah well, only 7 weeks to go then I will have someone with me all the time smile

but yes, it's so great to have all of you keeping me company!!

Alyssa1978 Tue 29-Oct-13 19:40:30

I was told that it doesn't smell mrs but the more I read the more people note a sweet smell.
Mine came out in an almighty gush with ds1 that I soaked through 2 towels actual bath towels lol
They had to brake it with ds2 and my back waters broke in a trickle and by the time they broke my actual waters long story that came out in a gush too so I've never really noticed a smell as I was in active labour both times it went.

OMG this bab is pushing down into my pelvis with some force, its actually hurting, if he pushes anymore then he's gonna pop his head out confused

BohemianRaspberry Tue 29-Oct-13 19:42:37

I know what you mean rose I'm at home with only myself for company ... that's never a good thing. I argue with and torture myself for twisted fun it seems.

meandbumpy Tue 29-Oct-13 19:57:40

How did your appointment go Bohemian? Hope it has helped and you're feeling better x

meandbumpy Tue 29-Oct-13 20:25:09

Hope all is well Mrs

I keep having to double check the dates to believe it's only 6 weeks to go for me, it still seems like such a long time away!
I found mine and dp's New Years list from the great 2013 get-our-lives-back meeting and it turns out we're not doing too badly. He's gone back to a permanent position, I went self employed (although hardly had any work but it's a start!) we're moving to where we want to live and got pregnant which is the icing on the cake. The only things that we've missed is dp wanted to 'get buff' (he's been the one eating for two, oops!) and we need to sell the house, which is a big stress but at least it's the last thing on the list. Finding that was much better than finding that bloody card from the year before! Puts things into perspective, we're not fully on top of things but we are a hell of a lot better and have been working hard.
Got me thinking about what New Years resolutions or plans we'll make for 2014 but I just can't see that far ahead at the moment!

Chelsealady Tue 29-Oct-13 22:45:36

I cant wait to see the first babys on the way story!!! Its going to make me so excited and i know as soon as the first labour story pops up they will be all coming one after another and then that will be telling me my time will be soon :D yaaaay

PinkWitch803 Wed 30-Oct-13 00:44:05

I can't keep up with everyone. It has just taken me 30 minutes to catch up from yesterday smile

BohemianRaspberry Wed 30-Oct-13 02:56:50

Okay, it's 3am and being kicked mercilessly on the inside by Junior who appears to have discovered yoga and being shoved by DH who is indulging in similar moves. Like father, like son I guess. Come on lads I need sleep!

Dasie Wed 30-Oct-13 09:31:33

Hello everyone!!
I've been out of the loop for a few weeks as I moved house at the beginning of Sept and it consumed so much of my spare time for a while. Been silently popping by but you gals have so much to say I guess I've missed a lot of updates smile

Anyway hope everyone is well and getting excited about meeting their new little people soon x

MrsShrubs Wed 30-Oct-13 09:41:48

Not leaking thankfully, spoke to the MW last night and like someone else said earlier they weren't worried because I'm not going through loads of panty liners or anything. Did go to bed at 8.30 with a film and was asleep by 9.30, hoping that will give me my energy boost today, I slept walked through most of yesterday.

Baby feels like he's trying to push his way out via my belly button at the moment, keep having flashes of that part in alien!

thedizzy1 Wed 30-Oct-13 09:48:30

Hey whisper, meand, bohemian and stom. Im joining your abandoned club- dp is on a project at work at the mo which means he's out of the house for 14 hours a day, leaving me to do everything. I am so so ao tired, and while dd is super cute, shes constantly on the go and im so uncomfortable with my bump that I'm really struggling with chasing and lifting her. The guilt is awful too.

WhisperMen Wed 30-Oct-13 11:01:38

DP has abandoned me AGAIN. his bloody day off and he agrees to work 9-3. I swear he likes being at work more than being with me recently.

I have just had a pretty embarrassing moment. I was hoovering and cleaning the flat in my underwear because I didn't want to get my clothes dirty. I completely forgot I had opened the bedroom curtains. The bedroom window faces out onto a very popular busy main road. There is always someone wandering around. I have just been flashing my self to a group of students whilst dancing like a loon. <hides forever>

BohemianRaspberry Wed 30-Oct-13 11:48:31

sorry mean the appointment was good, hard going but okay - mainly reassuring me that I can make other friends and that I'm not as isolated as I think. The main thing is to keep busy.

dizzy I'm with you on the guilt feelings too

And I will be busy the next few days as the builder has covered everything in brick, plaster and general dust ... but still it's all worth it: we've had a wall cut through and the kitchen looks mahoosive now. Only problem is that the Oyster is under all the dust sheets so I can't play with it.

whisper if anything says anything just get really snotty and yell "Does the sight of a pregnant woman scare you THAT much!"

Chilli81 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:52:18

Hello all
MrsShrubs Glad you're ok. Good to get checked out though.

We are getting new windows done but the only week the window people can do it is the week before my due date. Am I mad in agreeing to this? They said they would start with our bedroom (where baby will be). I know it's close but if we don't get it done then it will have to be in February some time and I've heard it's going to be a freezing winter and our current windows are really draughty. wwyd?

Finish work next week and cant wait to be off and finally have some time to prepare for little one's arrival.

Like Chelsea said, I can't wait to start hearing stories of arrivals! Wonder who will be first? How exciting!

Chilli81 Wed 30-Oct-13 12:53:01

Whisper the image of you cleaning in your underwear with passers-by watching made me laugh!

Chilli I would get it out of the way, if the worst comes to the worst and the baby is here before the room is done then you can always put them elsewhere, do you have a moses basket or carrycot? DP was ill just after DD was born and I spent a couple of nights on the sofa with her in the moses basket next to me.

froubylou Wed 30-Oct-13 14:28:36

Pmsl whisper. I once flashed my tits at the old (very devout muslim) man who lived next door. I went to shut the window before I got in bed. My bedroom windows look out onto some woods and it was late so I didn't expect any one to be around next door.

Felt awful because he was on his prayer mat and looked so peaceful and serene til I flashed my f cups at him.

Off to hospital shortly to have placenta and liqueur checked. Could do with a nap instead though.

WhisperMen Wed 30-Oct-13 14:38:25

liqeur? that sounds like fun grin

LadyMedea Wed 30-Oct-13 15:07:34

Always baffles me why they call if liqueur rather than fluid...

froubylou Wed 30-Oct-13 15:13:02

I thought that too whisper lol.

Until I got here and the receptionist told me it is the consultation doing all my scans now. Bit worried about that to be honest. Wasn't too concerned before.

And I am pretty sure he is sideways on again. Sigh. Norty baby determined to be a pest before he is even born lol. Might ask consultant to do a full growth scan again while I'm here. Last one was only 6 days ago but if they get same sort of measurements it takes human error out.

WhisperMen Wed 30-Oct-13 15:23:09

liqueur sounds like alcohol. Much more exciting than fluid!

ooh I hope everything goes okay frouby

itsliz Wed 30-Oct-13 15:47:42

Chelsea the first 'baby's on the way' story is unfolding as we speak, over on the Facebook group!
The lovely stinkerboo (who's only posted on here a couple of times) was induced today and has been keeping everyone updated.
If anyone wants to be part of the FB group, best to contact Whisper or stom smile

Chilli I'd get it out of the way, too. It hopefully won't take too long and once it's out of the way then you won't have to worry about it. Besides, you'll be glad of it when it's freezing outside and you're all cosy inside having newborn snuggles!

Got woken up just after midnight last night as people were banging about upstairs and discovered the power had gone out in our building. The rest of the street was fine, so DP went out to investigate which meant we didn't get back to sleep for ages.
Everything was fine in the end but I was in a real panic as the only way to get in or out of our building is via a big electric gate with a code, and it occurred to me that if I suddenly went into labour or needed to dash to the hospital then we wouldn't be able to get out!
Completely irrational I know, but now that we're all getting closer, everything is starting to feel a lot more real...

Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 16:23:33

chilli as others have said is get it out the way too. Then it's one less thing to worry about when baby is here.

Ahhh can't believe there is a baby on the way!! At the beginning it seemed so far away!

I've been on a proper prego rage today and I have no clue as to why! Fed up I supposed. Dp went and got £250 put the cash point and it got stuck and wouldn't come out!! Luckily the bank fixed it and they credited out account but was scary as that's all the money we have for bills etc so that worried me this morning.

I got angry at the postman for ringing to the door bell 3 times. I was on my way I just had to roll off the bed! Lol I got abit stuck haha.
We have no food so dp is going to get fish and chips tonight as he got paid today. So no cooking yay!

Going to go chill in the bath and see if I can get rid of this angryness! lol
My 4 boxes of nappies and my hospital bag arrived today yay! So if anyone wants to share they hospital bag list with me I would appreciate it!! :D

violetbean Wed 30-Oct-13 16:25:48

Argh, hope you guys don't mind if I have a mini-rant!

We are having a bath put in which I have been looking forward to since July (not having a bath really sucks). Ordered one 3 weeks ago and they said it would be delivered within a couple of days. After a lot of chasing, it was delivered today... but it's the wrong bath! (doesn't have handles, which I definitely need!) Argh! The store manager just said 'call me back tomorrow morning and we'll sort it out'.

Also I have really bad pains in my pelvis when I lie down or sit in certain position, guess it's the start of spd sad

Arghhhhhhhhhh! This sucks!

Exciting that babies are already arriving, have been following the story on Facebook and hope everything goes well for stinker boo. thanks

Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 16:29:21

violetThat's really bad of the manager! He should be sorting it out now for you!! What a goon!
I hope it gets sorted and you get your bath!

froubylou Wed 30-Oct-13 16:56:52

Hmmmm, this baby of mine is a pest lol.

He is as I thought still in the same position ie breech. Because he is in a strange position (he is sideways on at the top of my womb with his head to the righthand side) it makes measuring things difficult.

However after the trainee consultant and the actual consultant had messed about for half an hour (giving me a panic attack) they decided that although he is fine my fluid levels are at the low end of normal.

Consultant also asked if I have a heart shaped womb (I have no idea!) as the position he and DD are in suggest that may be the case. A breech baby (according to Dr Google) is linked with low amniotic fluid.

Had a google and as long as baby is fine there is no real danger from low amniotic fluid. Did ask the trainee consultant when the other one had left if my fluid levels could effect the level of fluid around baby. She said no, but when she checked my urine said I was a bit dehydrated too.

Again, according to Dr Google my fluid intake can effect the amount of fluid around the baby. So have to make a real effort to drink more.

Also asked the consultant if she thought baby would move around by 38 weeks, she didn't think so in her opinion given the position he is in and the fact that DD didn't either.

So although my EDD is 20/12 I bet I have him at 39 weeks. Just hope it's not the 13th as thats a friday lol. Don't think our hospital does ELCS on fridays anyway, they all tend to be the start of the week. So he would either be around the 16th which would make me 39+3 or the 10/11th. Which would make me 38 + 3.


That sounds to close pmsl.

NomDeClavier Wed 30-Oct-13 17:40:08

Sorry I've not been around for a few days - we had guests and I am knackered plus one of my clients has made their babysitter search function free so trying to work out strategies to promote it plus the usual end of month craziness. <yaaaawn>

So exciting we have a baby on the way! I don't think I ever managed to join the FB group. Need to get into a pc so I can send someone a message!

MildredH Wed 30-Oct-13 18:02:49

Hats off to you Nom for having guests- I can't be arsed to even have anyone in for a cup of tea.. Means tidying and everything. Just arranging to meet people out a lot..

Molly28 Wed 30-Oct-13 18:09:33

hi ladies, so my little monkey is confusing the midwife, she said she thought it was a head at the bottom but then said it could be a head at the top!! lol!

so at 36 week appointment they will need to decide if I need to be scanned! come on baby make it clear!!

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 18:25:26

Oh wow first baby born...my friend gave birth today 5 weeks early today!! :D baby weighs 6.8lb and is healthy....she had a seriously quick labour had to call an ambulance and ended up giving birth to him in the ambulance outside the hospital!

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 20:09:49

Congrats to your friend, that's a good weight for 5weeks early.

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 20:43:53

I know, he looks massive in the pictures she sent me! Its scared me now considering im due 3 weeks after her original due date anything is possible..ahh excitement is taking over.

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 20:48:49

Oh yes, they will come when they want to, I've got 4 weeks Monday and its so real now, I just wanna meet him smile

Midwife appt tomorrow then a growth scan on Monday.

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 20:49:58

stom was hoping you would share hospital bag inventory first as im confussed.com what to put it. All i have so far is nappies and still dont know how many to pack!

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 20:53:10

alyssa How comes you have growth scans?? I also do but only because im 19, its nice getting to see bubba few extra times and also reassures me after having my mental breakdown before i go into the hosp every time. I always get this feeling something is going to be wrong and end up tensing up and shaking so much.

Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:04:15

I haven't a clue! Lol Im putting about 10 nappies in

Some of them little toiletries for me nightie clothes slippers a towel
For baby a few baby grows. Going home outfit etc
I'm not sure what else lol

Aww I'm so jealous of all the growth scans I'm only had the 2 normal ones x

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 21:17:20

Hmmm, i keep seeing mums post about bottled water and straws??

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:20:55

My first baby was early and weighed 5llb 6oz chelsea he was tiny and couldn't keep his heat up so they just check with every pregnancy after that they are growing ok.

stom I have in babies bag

Nappies x20
Sleep suits x3
Body suits x7
Bibs x 7
Scratch mits
Cotton wool balls
Baby wipes
Coming home outfit
Nappy bags
Shampoo and body wash
Car seat (not in the actual bag lol)

In my bag

Maternity towels
Bath towel
Breast feeding bras x2
Shampoo, conditioner, wet wipes, ear cotton buds, toothpaste and brush comb and brush, body wash and sponge.
Change of clothes and socks/shoes
Knickers x7
Mints (Trebor)
Moist wipes for the toilet (trust me pack some lol)
Breast pads
Paracetamol and codeine tablets
Ibuprofen and codeine tablets (both for after birth)
2 maternity night shirts that button half way down for bf
Dressing gown
Phone charger

I'm sure I've forgotten something, but bloody hell you'd think I was going on holiday lol

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:22:33

Hair bobbles to tie my hair back

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:23:35

Tin of sweets and a thank you card for the midwives

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:25:27

My phone
Money for parking
I feel like I'm forgetting something..............oh yes and DP lmao

Chelsealady Wed 30-Oct-13 21:31:22

Wow how big is your bag Alyssa i actually didnt think of half the things on there so glad you posted that!!

Can anyone recommend where to buy nursing bras from? Iv had a look but i really need some with underwire as i need support!

kchapper5 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:33:27

Evening guys, just caught up smile Even though i've got ages to go, i'm starting to panic as I don't seem to have got anywhere near what we need yet. Im hoping as me and DP are both off friday, that we can go and buy nursery furniture, and nappies and other hospital bag stuff, which means most of it.

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:33:51

Lol chelsea I take 2 small cases like the hand luggage ones you take on the plane, one for me and one for baby and that way you're not rummaging around the same bag for everything.

Oh and I'm taking my vibrating breast feeding pillow.

I get my bras from mothercare x

MollySJ Wed 30-Oct-13 21:47:24

Vibrating breast feeding pillow?? Link please!!

Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 21:49:52

Thanks alyssa very helpful I'm going to save that haha
I'm also going to stick some underwear and t shirt in for dp just incase it's the middle of the night etc

Does anyone know about these formula starter packs and where I can get them from do aptamil do them?
As that's what I'll be using at home ( don't hate me, I've been to the bf groups and stuff and as guilty as I feel I just can't do it, mw is fine as I'm all clued up etc like I said I do feel guilty but I jut can't do it. Nothing against those who do tho!)

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:00:20

Lol stom yeah I used aptamil starter packs with ds2 after bf failed, you can get them at boots and asda Hun.

I got my pillow from asda living its a bright star and has a pocket in it with a battery operated thing that makes it vibrate

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:07:21


Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:08:08

Don't know how to link it properly sorry but that's the one I have x

LadyMedea Wed 30-Oct-13 22:09:04

From here to maternity - http://www.fromheretomaternity.co.uk - Has the widest selection of bras I've seen and fast despatch. You should be ok with underwires once your boobs settle down but make sure you get a soft one to start with as you could really do some damage to your milk ducts when your boobs are first engorged. I'm roughly 38GG (at the moment) and have bought the soft carriwell nursing bra in XL for starters, then I will get something more fitted when I know what's what.

LadyMedea Wed 30-Oct-13 22:09:31
Featherbag Wed 30-Oct-13 22:13:26

I bought a bf pillow today! Was going to get one from asda, but had to take DS into Mothercare to buy new trousers (and then put them on him as he weed all over the ones he was wearing, little darling) and on the sale table was a fleecy adjustable height bf pillow reduced to £12 from £45! Must have been meant for me, as I'd been going to call into asda on my way home and buy the other one!

Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:13:33


Alyssa1978 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:13:56

Damn it i give up lol x

Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:16:41
Stom91 Wed 30-Oct-13 22:22:12

Could be a stupid question. The starter packs do they have the cold? Or do you warm them up? Sorry this is completely new to me! I'd use them for the hospital them buy the powder for home x

AngryByrd Wed 30-Oct-13 22:31:00

Hi Guys!

I was on this thread before as 'QueenofWhispers' had to go away for a bit due to being super busy with work. Hope it's okay to join back in! x

MildredH Wed 30-Oct-13 22:42:13

Hey Queen/Angry

How you doing? Wondered where you'd got to..

PinkWitch803 Wed 30-Oct-13 23:25:11

I bought my maternity bras from figleaves. I have two non wired and two with flexible wiring

Roselau Thu 31-Oct-13 01:44:05

hm so I just got a call from the dr office this afternoon to tell me that he wants me to take the full glucose test (the one that's 3 hour fasting, taking blood every hour) because the results came back a little high. Has anyone done the follow-up test? I had not heard of it before.

I don't want to have GD! I have been indulging in the nutella a bit much, but I have a healthy BMI, am relatively active and try to eat healthily most days of the week (although I fail sometimes).

I'm also freaking out a little bit because I'm already 33 weeks pregnant, so it's really late to catch it and I hope I haven't harmed the baby too much!!! also I will have to drive there by myself, fasting, and back after that glucose awfulness that makes me feel sick. It stresses me out to no end to drive in this city, and the Dr office is pretty far. My DH has been driving me the last couple of times, but this time I can't ask him to take the whole morning off! anyways, speaking of which, since I had the car today, I now have to go and pick him up from work.

hope all you ladies had a nice day and are catching some zzzzz

qumquat Thu 31-Oct-13 04:14:43

Anyone else still struggling with sleep? I am going mad only one hour so far tonight and running an all day rehearsal with 30 teenagers starting in 5 hours. I just can't cope! Came off anti depressants earlier in preg and was so proud of myself, but wondering if this is what has caused the insomnia- my anxiety levels are through the roof. I'm awake all night worrying about work (even in half term), then work is predictably disastrous as have had so little sleep! (Took me 3 hours to mark 7 books yesterday). The kids better behave at rehearsal or I will burst into tears on them!

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 07:09:31

Hi MildredH!


So I don't exactly have GD but sort of do. So they made me take the GT and 2/3 times it came back normal, but then on the third time it was on borderline. I had a few other symptoms (extra baby juice in my belly) and glucose in my urine. <yuck>.

It hasn't been that bad. I'm eating less fruit now. Funnily enough, pineapple spikes my sugar worse than a cupcake does. What is super annoying though is the stupid finger pricking. I'm supposed to be emailing a weekly dairy to my Ob and GP; but since I'm not eating fruit or anything near a cupcake I just don't want to finger prick and read my low blood sugar levels all the time. I know they are going to be within range, and yet I still have to do it. My doctors don't even think I need medication.

BohemianRaspberry Thu 31-Oct-13 07:50:52

rose the gtt is inconvenient but okay. Hopefully it's just a precaution - take a book. There's no telling who gets gd - I'm high-risk supposedly and once size 10 friend isn't, but she had it with hers, I so far don't.

If you do have GD it'll mean diet control, no pills or anything and monitoring your blood sugar by prick tests - but it really does benefit baby to do this as unchecked GD babies can be unheathily bigger and need treatment as they can get poorly with it.

Hope this helps xxx don't fret xxx

Alyssa1978 Thu 31-Oct-13 08:07:51

The starter packs are ready to use stom you just screw the teat on and away you go.

Could scream this morning, got a midwife appt so I've got time of work for antenatal and thought if get a nice extra hour in bed.....but no, dp heard ds2 let out a tiny noise and then he went quiet and he went in to out his dummy in and obviously woke him up and with him ds1 also so I ended up getting less sleep than when I get up for work angry

Featherbag Thu 31-Oct-13 08:50:55

Quick decision-making help needed! Do I a) continue to sit on this sofa in my PJs watching DS play with toys/watch CBeebies for another couple of hours then meet mum for Christmas shopping and lunch, or b) get off my lazy arse, get both of us ready and out in the next 50 minutes to meet friends and their kids at a farm adventure place for a couple of hours before lunch and shopping? I have a headache but can't see this being improved by Mr Tumble...

PistachioTruffle Thu 31-Oct-13 08:58:39

I'd stay on the sofa if I was you feather, but then I am feeling particularly lazy today!

WhisperMen Thu 31-Oct-13 09:20:04

another vote for sofa. but I love the sofa and I don't think I could cope with going to a farm and christmas shopping in one day

itsliz Thu 31-Oct-13 09:47:59

I vote for the sofa too, Feather - sounds like you're going to need to save all of your energy for christmas shopping later!

Welcome back, Angry! I was wondering where you'd got to! Aside from being busy, hope all's well smile

qumquat sleep has been eluding me, too sad Woke up every two hours last night and couldn't get back to sleep after 4! I've just put it down to being uncomfortable and not doing enough during the day to wear myself out. How long do you have until you finish work? Sounds like you could do without that extra stress at the moment...

DP treated me to a trip to the cinema last night which was nice as we haven't been in ages. He kindly booked us seats at the end so I wouldn't have to try and squeeze my bump past people or struggle to get out if I needed the loo... Only problem was that the room was much tinier than we'd imagined so there was only one way in or out of the aisle.
DP spoke to a steward, who loudly announced that everyone needed to shift along so that we could sit at the end as planned! SO embarrassing!!! But bloody brilliant that they were so accommodating smile

Oh and <SOUNDS KLAXON> ladies... we have our first December baby!
This morning stinkerboo posted on the FB group to say that she gave birth to a gorgeous little boy yesterday evening!!! Wonder who will be next?!

MildredH Thu 31-Oct-13 09:50:40

I vote sofa too Feather. I've come to realise one activity per day is the way to go!!

kchapper5 Thu 31-Oct-13 10:15:17

Definitely sofa feather
Welcome back angry
Love that the cinema was so accommodating for you liz
Im off to my first Physio appointment at 11 then off to Birmingham tonight to see the arctic monkeys! We're seated so hopefully it won't be too tiring but im very excited

Alyssa1978 Thu 31-Oct-13 10:18:26

Why was she induced so early (October) is he ok? A good weight?

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 10:27:48

I'll catch up late. But alyssa her waters went on the 39th so she had to be induced.
He's 5lb 13 I think and doing well x

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 10:33:15

29th x

lisbapalea Thu 31-Oct-13 10:38:19

Sofa definitely feather!

violetbean Thu 31-Oct-13 10:44:12

Agree with sofa crowd grin

Phoned bath company and they are going to try to deliver the right bath today between 1 and 2pm. Fingers crossed...

Think nesting instinct may have kicked in today, feel sudden urge to get rid of all our junk and prepare baby's room! Weird. Problem is I have a friend visiting this afternoon so if I get all the stuff out to sort it, I'll probably have to abandon it half way through when she arrives...

Welcome back angry! smile

LadyMedea Thu 31-Oct-13 10:55:47

Very freaked out by stinker boo's baby arriving, I think she was a couple of days ahead of me and I'm 35 weeks today with a history of early babies in my family.

qumquat I did the same as you and came off the anti-ds whilst TTC, anxiety is my main problem too. Made it to 16 weeks ok, then had a mini breakdown, worse than I'd ever been. Decided with doc to go back on but luckily a lower dose has done the trick (might be the placebo effect but who cares) so I feel I did my best trying to come off them and a low dose is better for me and babs. Keep an eye on yourself and don't feel guilty if you decide to try them again. The affect on babs will either be nothing or they can be a little jittery for 24 hours after their born, but that's rare. Your sanity is more important.

New baby news is very exciting! smile

36+1 today, have another growth scan this afternoon, really hoping if all looks well then they will give me the go ahead to have her in the MLU.

meandbumpy Thu 31-Oct-13 11:57:38

34 weeks appointment today and things are looking good. Baby is head down and my bloods are fine so no negative/positive cross over as yet. Midwife even asked if I'd considered a home birth so I feel reassured that things are going smoothly. I hadn't thought about having one before but now I'm considering it. Did anyone else have a home birth with their first? Does anyone think it'd be silly, possibly risky, to have one with the first when there are so many unknowns?

Good to hear your appointment went well Bohemian, it sounds like you've got a really positive, constructive plan together for dealing with your anxiety.

Sorry to hear people aren't sleeping well. I think i must be weird because I can't stop sleeping at the moment, averaging about 10 hours a night, in between wee stops, over the past few weeks! I feel so lazy but after not sleeping all the way through the pregnancy I just can't help myself. Must be the one benefit to dp being away in the week and me having the bed to myself.

Alyssa1978 Thu 31-Oct-13 12:18:46

Everything fine at midwife appt 35+3 and measuring 37 weeks hmm baby is head down and he's only 4/5ths out now and she said she couldn't move his head so that's good, he's going in the right way lol

Gannetgob Thu 31-Oct-13 12:43:33

So exciting to hear baby news already. Scary too though!

Glad things are going well at midwife appointments, it doesn't seem like 5 minutes ago we were all going for booking in and 12 week scans!

I have a bra dilemma. When are you all going to buy nursing bras? There is a pack of 2 for £15 on the mothercare website but only available in a 38d. This size seems to be the comfiest on me at the moment, so I don't know whether to buy them. I'm 34 weeks now, so I assume my buzzies will get bigger. Is it too early to get them now? Shall I wait for another 2 or 3 weeks or shall I just go for it?

Excellent list Alyssa. I am also putting my green notes and birth plan in, a towel for me, a TENS machine, nipple cream, vaseline to make first poos not stick quite so much and a carrier bag for dirty clothes. I might also shove my hairdryer in the car. Not an essential item but I hate having wet hair after a shower.

In terms of milk, I decided against buying a starter kit. In boots the cow and gate starter kit worked out at £1.39 per 100ml of milk, so I got a couple of the big bottles of ready made milk (29p per 100ml). We have lots of bottles already, and I don't want to waste lots of money when (fingers crossed) breast feeding will go well!

Hope everyone is ok, have a lovely day and let me know about nursing bras!

jemimastar Thu 31-Oct-13 12:44:02

Hi December girls! Sorry to be a late joiner I always wandered where these due date/month specific threads were, sad I've only just found them with 5 weeks to-fingers crossed- go! sad
I'm Due Dec 2nd & counting the days...bump has dropped massively, was convinced I had a UTI but just babies head engaged and making me waddle around.

Have an anterior placenta so movement can be very sporadic, at my MW appointment this week she wasn't happy as baby wasn't reacting at all & made me go into hospital to DAU to be hooked up and checked...baby eventually woke up/moved around after some water and chocolate! Really wish had more regular movement though.

Gannetgob Thu 31-Oct-13 12:50:42

Oooooh, also, this may be a really silly question and correct me if I'm wrong, but here goes...

I read a thread on here not so long ago about when baby had their first bath. I was surprised that some people were saying up to 2/3 weeks after they were born. I understand that its fine to just use cotton wool and water to wash baby at first and a proper bath is often about bonding/routine/nice experience. Soooo... Baby is going to be a bit gross when they are born. Gunge and gloopy stuff all over. How do you get that off? Do you just to use wet cotton wool and keep going until its all off? I know that I can give baby a bath whenever I want, but what do you lot think?

Alyssa1978 Thu 31-Oct-13 12:54:12

Ah yes ganetgob I also have nipple cream and empty carrier bags for wet towels etc, i knew I'd forget something I had in lol.
I was told by the mothercare bra measurer woman lol to come get measured at 37 weeks for nursing bras.

Welcome jemima same due date as me and my placenta is at my back so feeling lots of movement this time around.

Gannetgob Thu 31-Oct-13 12:56:15

Welcome jemima!

I can imagine it must be hard not feeling baby very often, I know I panic when I don't feel mine for a while! However, it sounds like your midwife is on the ball and making sure you are both ok, so that's something!

Is this your first? Do you know if you are having a boy or a girl?

Alyssa1978 Thu 31-Oct-13 12:57:55

I took in johnsons top to toe for babies first bath as it says its mild enough and you can use on body and hair. I still use it now.

WhisperMen Thu 31-Oct-13 13:34:36

I was just going to use water and wipes in hospital and wait until the cord has dropped off to give baby a proper bath I think. That's what my step sister did and it worked for her. To be honest I think I will be a little bit too scared to bath it for a while incase I break the baby haha.

I am poorly once again today. I am fed up of feeling rotten. It's just low level niggly stuff that combined is making me feel rather rough. The joys of being pregnant eh?

Molly28 Thu 31-Oct-13 13:38:55

hi ladies! hope all is ok! I'm really struggling today, in work and got some period pain again. making me feel very restless! can't wait to get home. although I hope the trick or treaters are patient, takes me a lifetime to get out of the chair!!

jemimastar Thu 31-Oct-13 13:45:46

Alyssa1978 thankyou!! Due date twins how fab!

Ganne thankyou!! This is my first and we haven't found out, hard as its been resisting. Sorry will try to catch up as much as poss on this thread, but how about you?

violetbean Thu 31-Oct-13 13:50:04

Welcome jemima! I have a similar experience with movement - anterior placenta and long waits from one baby movement to another. Always so reassured when feel something at last! smile

Made me feel better finding out that baby is sleeping for 90-95% of the time at the mo. Probably he is shifting around at night while I'm asleep so I don't notice some of it!

Bath not arrived yet, sigh. Will give them until 2.45 then call again...

Molly28 Thu 31-Oct-13 13:54:03

I was thinking last night that I don't think I've ever had as many kicks etc that people talk about any I thought maybe there's something wrong with baby (but I've been monitored for movements and they've said its fine) didn't occur to me that the anterior placenta caused it!! smile that's yet another night of worrying for no reason!! wink

LadyMedea Thu 31-Oct-13 14:04:43

If the baby comes out in the normal creamy goop (vernix) you are meant to rub it in I think rather than wash it off as it's their natural moisturiser. It's only if they come out covered in meconium that they need a wash straight away... That would be gross if you left that on. I think we will play it by ear whether to just top and tail for a while or do a dunking.

jemimastar Thu 31-Oct-13 14:22:07

Thanks Violet ! (is that your name? As our top name if a girl!).
Baby was sleeping for much of time it was being monitored too actually which is why (I hope!) I hadn't felt much that day, are those sleeping stats general stats for our stage of pregnancy or for your baby? Really interesting.

Molly- yes it can really affect how much we feel movement as extra cushion for kicks etc to get through!! V frustrating...

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 14:25:10

Welcome jemima I hope you've had a nice pregnancy so far (as nice as pregnancy can be lol)

With regards to bathing I think I'll do whatever come naturally. I'm not really sure. Tbh I have got a clue so hoping me and dp can work it out together.

Tmi alert. Had my results from the swap and I have really bad thrush (no symptoms though) anyway mw says I need to get the pessary and cream from the dr.
What is the pessary like. I've never had thrush or used one so I'm nervous lol. Plus I think I've prob given it to dp so how do they treat men for it?

BohemianRaspberry Thu 31-Oct-13 14:38:45

Hi Jemima hoping you are getting on well

stom TMI as well but I've got thrush atm, stupid uti antibios - I'm just using canesten cream atm but may have to move onto pessary if it doesn't clear up. With the pessary don't use the applicator they give you, use your fingers so not to go up too far. The pessary will dissolve and clear up your thrush but the downside is the excess will come out so wear a sanitary towel/thicker pantyliner. Men are usually treated with the cream, so dp needs canesten cream too.

I plan to just use water and wool for the first couple of days then move onto a nice warm dunk.

Finally had my full leg wax today and feel a damn sight more human now. And now my tankini has arrived, I can go swimmy tomorrow now smile

Gannetgob Thu 31-Oct-13 14:48:20

Thanks for bra and washing advice!

Jemima, Violet is our top name too! This is my first, due 13th dec and it's a girl (going to ask them to double check when I have another scan next week though!)

No idea about thrush, hope you are better soon!

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 15:01:35

Thank you for the warm welcome back everyone!!

I'm actually scheduled for a c-section on the 22nd; so quite excited to be done soon hopefully.

I am panicking over quite a lot these days. I look after two of my younger sisters; one of which just graduated from uni and the other is still in Uni.

The one who just graduated became engaged in August and then broke off the engagement two weeks after--and the anxiety and drama revolving her life is really affecting me. The break up was quite angry and I saw a side of her ex-fiancee I had never expected to. I doubt anything violent is likely to happen, but I still feel a bit threatened and vulnerable.

I'm having quite a few anxiety attacks at night and I'm not comfortable leaving the house for a few days to have a c-section without taking my son with me. Unfortunately for me, thanksgiving is a week after delivery so my parents will be in town the week of baby and possibly two weeks post. Thanksgiving is a big deal in our home and generally lots of friends and family come in from around the world to congregate around a giant turkey. This year, I haven't even begun to prepare the menu. I wonder if I can get canned turkey?

My mil is also starting to feel the need to come over more and more as the date approaches and I just feel crowded!!!

and while I write this, I am encountering another very strong braxton hicks contraction. Blagh.

Chelsealady Thu 31-Oct-13 15:05:58

I read on a thread on here that some people weren't washing the baby till the baby was 7-8weeks is that really necessary??

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 15:33:37

ooh! Just for a bit of fun.

just spoke to my friends fengshui master and he says I need to pick a name that starts with one of the following letters:

C, H, M, R, W, B, G, L, Q.

So far our names that are relevant have been:

Roselau Thu 31-Oct-13 15:35:46

angry and bohemian thanks for the reassurance on the GD stuff. I have my test tomorrow morning, so will let you know what comes out of it. my DH is too adorable, he said there is no way he's letting me drive there without eating and after they take blood from me, because he knows I will be dizzy and feeling really sick after that. So he's driving me and staying with me - no questions. he says he can just work later at night. he is too sweet. he's already working crazy crazy hours. I'm really lucky.
funny you mentioned about the pineapple. it's my favourite fruit in the whole world and I have it everyday. I have one waiting to be peeled right now! maybe I will try to cut down a bit, I thought it would not be a dangerous addiction, but I guess everything in moderation...

hi jemima! I also have an anterior placenta. TBH I think it's been a good thing, because I've been able to not freak out too much whenever I don't feel her for a few hours, blaming it on the anterior placenta. but yes, frustrating all at the same time.

wow - the discussion on bathing / washing makes me realise that I know nothing about newborns! I just figured they would tell me at the hospital what I'm supposed to do?!?

RE: bras. I have been in nursing bras since week 12. My boobs grew SO much in the beginning that it was the only thing I could find that fit. It does seem like they have stabilized which is good. However eveyone thinking of buying their nursing bras, I have heard (I don't know - experienced mums would be good to get your advice), that you don't want to get too many before the birth because your boobs explode again after you start BF'ing.

Roselau Thu 31-Oct-13 15:36:58

angry leah is one of our top 2.
zoe is still number 1 i think though.
i really liked violet, but with the last name Rose, it's not really cool for the baby.... same goes with Lily unfortunately which I love.

Molly28 Thu 31-Oct-13 15:44:28

Not sure how many people are still in work and are currently doing a handover to their cover but I was wondering how youa re all finding it?

I'm really struggling. My cover is new to the company and has taken a step down from managing 8 members of staff to basically being at the bottom of the food chain(!) At first I didn't like it because I can happily admit my brain power is more than a little limited now and she is completely on the ball with everything, but now she's treating me like the junior member of staff. I only have 2 weeks left but I'm dreading coming back already! (She is probably going to be kept on as I currently do a split role full time - and will only want to one aspect of this role part time).

Has anyone else found the whole process completely weird or is it just me?

jemimastar Thu 31-Oct-13 15:57:31

Rose- I agree, at times I've almost been grateful as know its most likely due to the anterior. and have a diary of movements so know in myself whats "usual". My MW was having a good feel through my tummy/poking and prodding and wasn't happy it didn't respond at all. Was V scary!!

Molly- they have been late recruiting for my cover and almost glad haven't had a handover as know id be paranoid that person was better/more liked than me! TBH your cover sounds like she will start to grate on other people if she has this attitude of being a bit above her station...especially so soon in when she should be eager to please and humble?

13loki Thu 31-Oct-13 16:01:22

I only got a one day handover. I admit I have no idea what my classes are meant to do after the holidays, I only looked as far as I was teaching. They couldn't find a qualified person to do my job, so I have a cover supervisor doing my job until the summer. After Christmas a friend is coming back to work part time after maternity leave, so she'll support in my classes, but it's not ideal.Still, it makes salary negotiations interesting for my department. We are paid less than teachers in government schools, apparently because people want to work in our company. Since I think they offered someone about 150 quid a month more than I get and they turned it down, it will make for an interesting conversation.

I'm aiming to not use any soaps or baby ewashes on this baby - both of our kids have eczema, and I want to avoid drying her skin out.

In the hospital bag, don't forget at least a spare top for your partner. DH handed DS to me once he was delivered and he was glad to have a top to change into, he was covered in vernix and meconium.

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 16:32:43

I love the name Zoe! but We can't have anymore 'Z' names in our family or else we'll start looking a little too Kardashian.

I was super relieved that the KK named their little one 'North'. That family really has put me off of names that start with 'C' and 'K' but I really love Camilla.

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 16:41:42

Thanks for the thrush advice bohemien
I was talking to mum and bathing the baby and I think for the first week I will just wash with water and cotton wool and then the next week I'll give her a lil bath just with water. Although I saw that top to toe stuff that alyssa was talking about so may use a little of the too. Also with regards to the cord bit on the belly button I heard that a little bit of surgical spirit helps it to heal. That what mum used to me so may use that too. But it changed in 20 years lol so I'll check with mw first.

Going over mums for tea tonight as dp is at pool and I don't have sky so can catch on on the programmes she's recorded for me. Mainly the originals and vampire diaries lol love vampire dairies. Got mum and dad adopted to it lol

I'm properly fed up of being pregnancy today nothing it and the stretch marks look horrid I get paid tomorrow and I need to buy a new bra and clothes but we little rally have no money spare. It's going my head in now.

I tell ya the next 7 weeks can't come quick enough. I'm hoping that my hyper-mobility is on my side for once and let's dd comes at 37/38 weeks lol

As for names we have decided to call her Amelia.
Though was gutted to find out it is the top 100 girls name. Lol when we chose it we didn't think it was that popular but we love it too much. We actually decided it before we were pregnanct. Just in convocation. And it's stuck ever since xx

Chelsealady Thu 31-Oct-13 16:51:22

stom same thing happened to me i was set on the name Isla for the past 2months then started hearing it everywhere and then someone i went to school with popped up on Facebook to say she has names her baby Isla. Been put off now i need to do some researching as i have no names i like i want something unique and pretty. Very fussy lol, also need it to sound good with her other names as she will be something Sydney North...maybe i will have something pop into my head when she is born.

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 16:54:00

Yea. We love Amelia and dp great great nan was called Amelia so it's being kept in the family which his nan is pleased about. I love it too much to change it. Everything else we think of we don't like. So she is staying Amelia Kathleen L.

Chelsealady Thu 31-Oct-13 16:55:57

I love the name Amelia its a pretty name iv been looking at the names of flowers and stones but still nothing sad

Stom91 Thu 31-Oct-13 17:00:13

Have searched baby names in google. You get loads
It's really hard. You never know like you said it may just come to you when she's born xx

MrsShrubs Thu 31-Oct-13 17:09:10

Welcome jemima

Absolutely love the name Leah...but that's because it's mine smile it's just spelt differently.

Only 10 & half working days left woohoo!! Molly I've just finished my handover notes - was like writing war and peace, but my cover doesn't start until the 11th which is my last week here. I'm hoping she's pretty switched on otherwise my poor team will struggle for the next year. Packed up most of my desk last week, that felt really weird and so does knowing someone esle will be sitting their for a year!

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 17:33:13


We are strongly considering Isla too; but the fengshui guy gave us those other letters to use so it helped us cut one name down.

LadyMedea Thu 31-Oct-13 17:38:14

I've probably shared this before but as we're back on names this website - names.darkgreener.com - is really good. You can put in any name and it will show you how popular a name has been every year since 1996.

I love Amelia but it was no. 1 in 2011 and 2012.

MildredH Thu 31-Oct-13 18:08:14

anyone who's yet to get their car seat etc sorted- I think I've found a great bargain..

Been checking on prices for the maxi cosi isofix family fix base for a few weeks. This afternoon had my usual scout round and have found this:


Really hope I've not cocked up here with my pregnancy brain but seems to me at £87 inc free delivery it's almost half the RRP?

Just wanted to share- ( really hope it's the bargain I think it is!)

MollySJ Thu 31-Oct-13 18:53:22

If you're looking for just the base it's about right? They are price matching Kiddicare 15% off. The seat is separate!

MollySJ Thu 31-Oct-13 18:57:18

Ignore, just done a price check and that IS a good deal!

violetbean Thu 31-Oct-13 19:02:58

Hey all,

Have massively cheered up because our bath is FINALLY here!!!!!! thlsmile thlsmile thlsmile

My real name isn't Violet, but I really like that name so chose it as a pseudonym for mn. Won't be using it though as we're having a boy...

Great website, Lady, thanks! I also really like www.nymbler.com/

I think the 90-95% figure came from one of my pregnancy apps but if you type into google 'baby sleeping 32 weeks pregnant' there are loads of sites that seem to cite the same figure.

MildredH Thu 31-Oct-13 19:16:10

Thanks Molly- yes got seat on a good deal from kiddicare a while ago but best I've seen base is £120-130 so this seems too good to be true. However can't find a fault! DH will be home soon and probably find I've ordered something spurious!

NomDeClavier Thu 31-Oct-13 19:27:14

lady I'm a bit obsessed with that site wink and the aftekch equivalent. One of the names we're considering isn't on there at all (but it's very French) and another is well down in the 5000s so I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing! Second name will be Catherine and then DH favours Serenity and I prefer Amity for a third name - family tradition to have a virtue as a middle name.

chelsea what other styles of name do you like? What kinds of sounds? I am queen of pretty and unusual names

Good news on the bath violet. I could kill for a bath right now.

I don't have anyone to take over from me hmm so it seems my class just won't have English timetabled until April. Doesn't bother me really. I can't stop on my SE stuff anyway!

I don't plan to bath baby for a few weeks. They don't need it - topping and tailing is fine and the routine will come later.

Re nursing bras I would get some expanding ones for the first couple of weeks. Your rib cage should shrink back down within a fortnight or so and by then your boobs will have gotten over the first ginormous week, so don't spend ££££ on nursing bras. I spent the first few days in a support BFing vest! If you are buying bras then avoid seams across the boobs and underwires. Cotton is best because you can boil/iron it in case of thrush.

Chelsealady Thu 31-Oct-13 20:45:12


Im very drawn to "la" sounding names such as Isla, Delila, layla but im not keen on the 3 i just said haha!

I like flower and stone names also and just anything unusual. Im just very fussy!

BohemianRaspberry Thu 31-Oct-13 21:12:06

Saw the John Lewis familyfix on offer this am. it's ordered and being picked up tomorrow!

In terms of cover my timetable is being covered by another member of the staff as I have exam classes and the last-minute, no idea what he's like supply has the safety timetable of mainly lower school groups. I'm happier about this.

We have a shortlist of three boys names but keep changing our minds!

13loki Thu 31-Oct-13 21:22:47

Ah Bohemian I managed to avoid any important classes. We are in Sweden, so no exam classes as such, but year 9 here are like English year 11, leaving school to go to college. I only have year 7 and 8 this year (my choice, I asked to drop my year 9s so they wouldn't change teacher mid year)

My year 8s have begged me to return early so I can have them for year 9. I don't think so.

meandbumpy Thu 31-Oct-13 21:41:46

Has anyone elses boobs not got any bigger? My ribs have expanded but my boobs have remained exactly the same so far, how disappointing, lol. Leaving getting a nursing bra fitted as long as possible as assuming they'll have to change at some point right?

We're struggling with options for boys names. We'd like something a bit different but find a lot of the unusual boys names sound a tad ridiculous. I do kind of like Edward but that's because shortening it to Teddy would be so cute.

Featherbag Thu 31-Oct-13 22:10:08

Hi all, I decided to take your advice and stay on the sofa this morning, but then mum phoned and asked me to meet a little earlier, so got ready and was still ridiculously early so went to supermarket before starting Christmas shopping. Shopping started well, but then my brother and his incredibly badly behaved 7 year old turned up and wouldn't leave - I love them both dearly, but DB is one of those people who is incapable of not talking, even when he's run out of anything vaguely interesting to say. He's obsessed with money and wants you to guess how much everything he's wearing cost (he's 31 but, well, he's an individual), even when he's already told you twice and the figure keeps going up. My DN is unfortunately going through a phase of whining when she can't have her own way immediately, and enjoys winding up my DS. Which she did to fucking perfection today, so he had no nap and was a little nightmare. ARRRGH!!!

Still, now have only 5 presents to buy, and 2 of those are at least identified and can be easily picked up. The other 3 are for grandfathers and DB, I'm sure that won't be TOO hard! I also got 70 size 1 nappies and 150 size 2, that should be enough to keep us going for a while! My hospital bag is now officially complete with the addition of peppermint tea bags and drinking straws - will hoik everything out in next couple of days and inventory it for your critique! Only have to persuade DH to actually pack something for himself, take DS's travel cot and 'Best Big Brother' t-shirt to my mum's and write a list of things that need to go to hospital with me but can't live in the bag, like chargers, iPad, etc.

Going for my first ever manicure/pedicure tomorrow! It's a 'Gelish' one, anyone have any experience? If you do, do you reckon they'll be able todo anything with a thumbnail starting to split horizontally just before the bit where it's no longer connected the flesh? Only it's painful!

Featherbag Thu 31-Oct-13 22:11:49

Re: boobs/bras, I've noticed mine have gotten stupidly bigger - my E cup bras are decidedly snug! I've bought some of those stretchy seam-free bras beloved of nanas, they're a revelation! I'm planning on feeding in them, they're stretchy enough to handle it and I found nursing bras a right faff last time.

Chelsealady Thu 31-Oct-13 22:23:20

Featherbag before i was pregnant i would be in the nail shop every 2 weeks! Gels are amazing dont ruin your nails and look great. With your thumb they always seem to work something out i had a broken nail once and they put some special glue looking stuff on before they put the gel on so should be okay. Nice way to pamper yourself also!!

AngryByrd Thu 31-Oct-13 23:31:01


I like gelish nails; but I do find they dry my nails out quite badly. I prefer to only use them if I have an important event...not everyone is the same though.

If you want a long lasting manicure with a plump effect top coat Nails Inc. have a lovely top coat called 'Gel effect Kensington and Caviar' and lately I've been swearing by it. Using it at home or at the salon my manicures can stretch to 12 days without a single chip. It's changed my life smile

PinkWitch803 Fri 01-Nov-13 00:08:53

My boobs just can't get any bigger. You are all frightening me sad

I really would fall flat on my face if they got any bigger!

Roselau Fri 01-Nov-13 01:51:58

I'm with you pink. although at least now that I have the bump, they look smallish in comparison, but I think I'm still rocking something like a 30GG which is unheard of.
so when I lose the bump they get even bigger, I will not only not find ANYTHING that fits, but will also tip over

13loki Fri 01-Nov-13 06:53:09

Rose and pink My current bras are 32Ks. Seriously, a single cup is too big to wear as a hat. I could cry as it is basically impossible to buy a bigger cup size in a nursing bra. well, you can get a Royce Jasmine, but they are a tighter fit than my other, nicer 32Ks.

Before I had DS I was a 32FF. After him I settled back down to a 32G, then after DD I ended up a 32J. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AGAIN! When I lose weight it tends to be off my (already non-existant) bum and my legs, making my chest seem even more out of proportion.

Taking the 3 year old to the childminder for (yet another) settling in day, then back home to wait for the head of family daycare here to visit and have a chat, then back to get the child. Last day of holidays for me, I officially start maternity leave on Monday.

Alyssa1978 Fri 01-Nov-13 08:07:27

Ah last 2 days at work, tomorrow is officially my last day.

Bought a 65cm gym ball from argos yesterday and been sitting on it like a birthing ball and its so comfy. I don't want to sit on anything else now lol

Have a good day everyone x

Chelsealady Fri 01-Nov-13 08:28:26

This baby does not stop hiccuping!! For the past 4 days its been hiccups at night and in the morning.

Finally got housing sorted I'm on a new scheme called affordable homes. I pay the rent myself but its discounted and i can start bidding tonight only for a 1 bedroom but anything will do better than the prison cell i am living out of!

violetbean Fri 01-Nov-13 08:32:55

Chelsea, I had a dream last night that I was helping people pick baby names (!) and distinctly remember suggesting 'Marilla' to you - she's a character in 'Anne of Green Gables'. No idea why my weird brain picked that one but anyway thought I'd better post it here, hehehe. grin Also I have a cousin called Annabella, if you're still looking at 'la' names. smile

violetbean Fri 01-Nov-13 08:34:28

PS congrats on the housing! smile great news!

froubylou Fri 01-Nov-13 09:54:10

Morning all

Feel for you all with big norks. Am normally a f girl myself, now a H cup and already in maternity bra's. My theory is have a couple in 2 cup sizes up but 1 size down in the back with a bra extender on standby. That way it allows for my ribcage to shrink a bit but boobs to go up when the milk comes in. And hopefully once they start to go back down again the ones I have at the moment will fit, even if I have to take the back in an inch or so.

I'm very lucky that I have the Mothercare outlet about 2 miles from me where they have nursing bra's for £10 for 2 pairs. So can try them on and they are cheap enough to have a few different sizes knocking around. And to be honest the ones I have bought so far are quite comfy and supportive and even give a decent cleavage lol. No mono boobs for me!

Got my pram yesterday as well. Decided on the Mothercare Extreme in the end. £140 in Giraffe print, which is basically black with a bit of print around the trims. Quite pleased with it. Its big and bulky but I needed something that will go off road, be sturdy enough to go across fields ect and be suitable from birth. It's not got a carry cot which I did want but in real bad weather doing the school run he can sit in the carseat and be covered up with the hoods. Its only 20 mins each way so not too long for a newborn and I'm going to get one of those padded insert things you can slot in to make it a bit comfier for him.

We decided on Sebastian just after the 20 week scan and he seems very much a baby Seb at the minute so can't see us changing.

I loved Emmeline for a girl as well as Amelia, and I think they both derivie from the same name (meaning Little Rival from memory but don't quote me on that). Loved Amelia but the popularity did put me off a little I'll admit. I also love Tabitha for a girl and Tobias for a boy. And my DD is called Francesca for whoever was looking for girls names which I and everyone else seems to love. She's frankie for her NN and it suits her!

Bit fed up at minute. Think am going to end up with a C section, baby seems to go down and turn, spends a minute or 2 there and then shoots back up. And with each day that goes he seems to find it more and more difficult to wrestle himself past my organs and inards lol. Was in the bath last night and my poor tummy looked like it had a bundle of fat puppies wriggling around under a blanket. Was going from side to side and everything!

Really want to try a natrual birth this time. Will be my last so looks like I won't get to experiance childbirth at all. Know its more important that we are both safe but am a bit disappointed all the same.

And it doesn't help that because he is right up under my boobs I am out of breath and suffering with indigestion constantly. And darent take any Ranitdine as last time I took that I had severe shits for 2 days! Sorry if thats TMI lol.

Off to do a Morrisons big shop, some housework and then going to try and have a nap later if DD will let me.

MrsShrubs Fri 01-Nov-13 10:51:00

congrats on the housing chelsea

Little bit worried, I share an office with 2 other people, 1 of which has just come back after a weeks annual leave and has just told me shes on her third day of antibiotics for pneumonia! How contagious is pneumonia and should my flu jab protect me because the last thing I want is to catch that!!!!

MildredH Fri 01-Nov-13 11:10:58

MrsS- pneumonia is essentially a chest infection. Ideally people shouldn't come in with infections working in close environments!!

Best you can do is just avoid getting too close to her, make sure the room is ventilated and wash hands lots.

NomDeClavier Fri 01-Nov-13 11:25:04

Wow Mrs that's really irresponsible of her for her health as well as yours. When DS had pneumonia he was in hospital for a week. First sign of a cough you should get yourself checked out.

mean my boobs don't change until my milk comes in and then it's up a couple of cup sizes but I was back in normal bras by 6 months or so. I don't know whether they'd have deflated at the end of BFing as I was already expecting this one!

I've had an amazing lie in, which I really needed after a crap night, and DH has told me to take my time getting up. Bliss!

AngryByrd Fri 01-Nov-13 11:58:33

congratulations chelsea smile

So I really want to compare the ameda lactaline double electric pump with the lanisoh one and then compare those two to the medala one.

wonder if lanisoh and medala will contribute breast pumps for my research.

MrsShrubs Fri 01-Nov-13 12:00:18

I know I am slightly annoyed she's come in knowing I'm preggers and how close a proxmity we'll be working in, will be going out at lunch to buy that antibac gel!

NomDeClavier Fri 01-Nov-13 13:02:03

I think if I'd had a Medela it would have been disgusting by now because my oversupply would have just backed up the tubes!

I need to pack my hospital bag really. And freeze some colostrum in case.... And pack my 'in case I have to stay for ages' bag.

meandbumpy Fri 01-Nov-13 13:23:12

That's great news Chelsea

Haha, glad it's not just me Nom. I'm usually a 30D, boob size has remained exactly the same but my ribs have stretched nearly 4 inches now, ouch!

Nearly finished all the packing and I'm off tomorrow to stay at dp's mum's with him for the week. Then next Saturday it's the big move and we can finally get ready for the babbles. Totally making the most of being preggo and not going to help with the moving at all, just going to wait at the new house and direct dp, his bother and dad with where to put things grin

Gannetgob Fri 01-Nov-13 18:17:30

Do we need to start expressing colostrum now nom? And in case of what?

How would I store it? Can I put fresh colostrum in with frozen colostrum? Gosh, you have introduced me to a whole new confusion!

AngryByrd Fri 01-Nov-13 19:07:18

I have stuff in my boobs! can i start pumping?! I didn't know that. Tell me more.

Must get those freezer bags.

Alyssa1978 Fri 01-Nov-13 19:09:49

Great news chelsea

mrs ill just echo what everyone else has said, first sign of a cough and go get yourself checked out.
I've just booked a flu jab today for Tuesday, I wasn't gonna bother but one of my staff came in ill today with what looks like a cold, but then informed me her entire family are bed ridden with actual full blown flu.
Now my hypochondriac tendencies have surfaced and I immediately got a sore throat and headache, so I'm going to be on the safe side and put aside my needle phobia to get myself covered.

nom I'm also confused lol, I expressed my colostrum a syringe full was all I managed for ds1 but that was after I'd had him and they were tube feeding him for the first 2 days and didnt want me to waste the good stuff but I never did that with ds2.

NomDeClavier Fri 01-Nov-13 22:02:13

A pump probably wouldn't be too effective but you can hand express and freezer bags is excessive! I have tiny syringes (maybe 20ml?) because you'd only need tiny amounts and I just froze whatever I got out of both boobs at a time last time and the syringes weren't full. I have to say I never used it though because it wasn't needed.

It's definitely not something you have to do or even need to consider unless you anticipate complications!

Seeing as most of you live in the UK where there would be access to donor milk in very bad case scenarios I wouldn't worry! I don't have that option, plus if I have to have a CS it would more than likely be under GA so expressing colostrum for the first 12-24 hours will avoid pressure on DH to consent to formula.

Didn't mean to worry anyone!

PinkWitch803 Sat 02-Nov-13 00:44:44

Angry someone on this 'ere forum recommended the ameda lactaline double pump and after doing some research, I am pretty much sold on it.

mumoftwoboysS Sat 02-Nov-13 07:49:02

I've just about caught up on all the posts! Half term and DH is off so been really busy this week!

I'm not one to buy clothes with slogans etc on them normally but u saw the cutest baby gro/romper suit in Mothercare. It has 'mummy's best christmas gift' on it. So cute and I'm tempted to get it. Haven't bought anything for baby yet. Tho both of mine were in tiny size for a few weeks so don't know what size to get!

Hope everyone slept ok. I feel like I should make the most of the lie in DH has given me but I'm awake now so just lying here...

mumoftwoboysS Sat 02-Nov-13 07:49:56

'I' saw., not 'u'!

MildredH Sat 02-Nov-13 08:04:35

I saw that Mum- like you I'm not one for slogan/ characters on baby clothes but thought that was lovely.

Alyssa1978 Sat 02-Nov-13 08:09:37

Ah that one sounds lovely mum, might have to look it up.

Last day at work today woooo hoooo I finally got here lol and bless my area manager he got me a pay rise to say thank you for the hard work, that and I'm on an increase of 50% on last years figures grin

Have a good Saturday everyone xx

kchapper5 Sat 02-Nov-13 14:40:51

How's everyone fairing today then?
I've just been swimming and absolutely loved it would definitely recommend smile and there was a little baby probably 6 months old there and It made me really excited for when I can take bump.
Mum that sounds so cute and I'm not normally one for slogans either.
Hope your last day is going well Alyssa and brilliant news about the pay rise smile

WhisperMen Sat 02-Nov-13 14:57:59

ooh that sounds adorable mum we have a few slogan babygros but they were given to us so can't complain grin
I wish I could swim and wasn't so petrified of water chapper I have heard it does great things for the aches and pains. I think when baby is here I will make an effort to get over my fear. We live two minutes from a pool which is handy.

Hope your last day flys by alyssa

I am feeling alright today if I ignore the constant nausea headaches and pain whenever I move

I have been a busy bee though, been up since 6am. My washing basket is empty I took a picture of it just so I can look at it on days when everything seems to much and know that for one day it was empty. I have also baked a chocolate fudgecake, darned some socks and knitted some more squares for my baby blanket as I realised seeing as I give birth next month I should probably get on with it. Just about to go and start a chicken casserole as I have my parents coming over for dinner later. However I have now sat down and I am not 100% sure I can get up again thanks to my useless hips grin

Featherbag Sat 02-Nov-13 15:25:20

Whoever it was that bought the Mothercare Xtreme (on phone and can't check, sorry) be really careful to make sure it NEVER gets folded down with the back clip that holds the seat back upright fastened! I've never done it myself, but yesterday my brother has forced the buggy shut without unfasten ing the back clip, and the seat back has snapped in 2. Just had to fork out the £40 I had earmarked for the last of the Christmas shopping to buy a new seat unit. And then walked around town sobbing about it for the best part of 2 hours, in 8-months pregnant hormonal fashion. There's zero chance of my brother even admitting to it, let alone paying for it, but it was definitely him.

AngryByrd Sat 02-Nov-13 15:36:13

for anyone interested and pink

the lactaline was what i used during my last breastfeeding experience. I did find it impressive. It's much more affordable compared to the other brands, but it's just not as pretty. I'm used to having beautiful things attached to my breasts, like pretty coloured bras and lace...

i'm shallow.

Featherbag Sat 02-Nov-13 16:53:56

I think we've finally decided on a name! Opinions welcome - Benedict Anthony (will prob get Ben).

WhisperMen Sat 02-Nov-13 17:11:38

oooh I love the name benedict (probably because I am in love with mr cumberbatch though)

we have gone for toby or olivia depending on which it turns out to be smile

mumoftwoboysS Sat 02-Nov-13 17:28:53

Took the kids swimming earlier but not quite the same- didn't get to do any swimming myself. Quite knackering just holding them, then walking back. So unfit!

Friends came round with their 12 week old- he's so cute! You know how you say people's kids are cute to them (even if they're not!) well this baby really was cute! But it's so funny, I have 2 kids but a small baby like that felt weird when holding him- I felt awkward and didn't know what to do with him! I know that'll change when I have my own again, just funny how it didn't feel natural!

mumoftwoboysS Sat 02-Nov-13 17:37:18

Sorry to hear about your buggy feather so your brother just didn't admit to doing it? Shame on him- not fair on you! Tho I know my brother is a bit similar- he helps or quite a bit with DIY but he's so brutal with stuff sometimes he forces things and breaks them or makes a mess and never thinks he's to blame!

whisper very productive! I so want to make something for the nursery (am going to order some fabric off eBay) but we never seem to have the cash - something else always crops up- and I feel like I need to paint and put the furniture in before I can start doing all the fun decor stuff.

Car boot tomorrow morning so fingers crossed I make some money to put aside. DH is really good with money and we have a weekly budget we have to stick to but sometimes I get so frustrated. This week we can only take half out as we need to pay for petrol from his work car. Which means we can't get the electrician in to change the nursery light fitting. So I'm pushing that back yet another week...

Alyssa1978 Sat 02-Nov-13 17:52:04

Ah finished work, flew over but what a busy day to leave on, we had to put the shop into full on Xmas mode, every inch of it looks like Santa threw up lol looks bloody lovely though if I do say so myself smile

Always bitter sweet when I leave cos I miss everyone sad but so need to not work until bump is due in 4 weeks, omg 4 weeks is so soon.

Got a beautiful outfit and blanket from everyone and they bought my 2 boys a Spider-Man balloon each bless them.

MrsShrubs Sat 02-Nov-13 18:47:52

Well done on finishing alyssa must feel so nice!

feather that's really awful bless you, don't blame you for crying!!

We went to the NHS birthing class at our hospital this afternoon and feel so much more confidant about what's going on, might go to the breast feeding class on Thursday too.

froubylou Sat 02-Nov-13 19:09:05

Tis me with the extreme feather. Thanks for the tip. Because mine is ex display I didn't get a manual with it so would never have known.

Feeling you on the hormonal tears. Nearly cried earlier cos I couldn't decide what I wanted for tea apart from a Sunday roast and a banana milkshake pmsl.

Can you all remember takingthestairs that posted quite a bit in here? It looks like she is having her baby tonight! Got a thread running in pregnancy bit! Pop over and wish her well if you get a min.

Alyssa1978 Sat 02-Nov-13 19:30:52

So sorry to hear about your push chair feather
I would have cried too.

I can't find the thread for takingthestairs

Alyssa1978 Sat 02-Nov-13 19:54:01

Never mind I found it smile

Chelsealady Sat 02-Nov-13 20:28:40

featherbag it was me with the mothercare extreme thanks for the heads up. Its okay to have a hormonal sob atleast yours had a meaning...i cried the other day because i couldnt get my charger into the phone...pathetic!

BohemianRaspberry Sat 02-Nov-13 20:52:36

I can't find the thread for takingthestairs ... boo but glad you finished on a high note Alyssa

That really sucks about your seat unit feather even more that they didn't just replace it. I would have sobbed at that completely

The builder has finally left us after knocking through our wall and bricking up one of our back doors. We now have a useful dining room! It was wonderful wheeling the buggy in and parking it neatly at the back of the room! The colour pack for the buggy came today too, a lovely jade green colour just to be different.

I haven't been tearful today (for a change) and I have felt really proud of my self-control: woman in the opticians said 'all new glasses are being dispensed upstairs today' and I politely refused. She persisted and I politely refused again and said that at seven and half months pregnant and with what I have just paid for the glasses, the dispenser could come to me. She did! Usually as of late, I would have just burst into tears and climbed up in agony. Actually feel quite proud of this.

But I still don't understand how a short stroll around the shops in the morning has me walking like someone crippled and in agony but this afternoon, I have been cleaning, climbing, hoovering, mopping and hands-and-knees floor scrubbing ...

froubylou Sat 02-Nov-13 21:14:32

Fuck. Dunno what baby is doing in there but it really bloody hurts. I am hoping he is trying to turn around and get his head down. Just keep getting a really stabby fanny pain and then it feels as though he is having a rave in there lol.

Then when I stand up it feels as though every thing has gone south!

MrsShrubs Sat 02-Nov-13 21:54:37

Might be trying to engage frouby

Chelsealady Sat 02-Nov-13 22:37:22

With a little hope baby is engaging frouby!

Alyssa1978 Sun 03-Nov-13 07:17:33

I have a birthing ball frouby as I find it the only comfortable place to sit......well it's a gym ball but does the same thing. Everytime I sit on it I feel pressure like he's pushing down and everyone has commented on how my bump has dropped really low since I started using it.

froubylou Sun 03-Nov-13 08:32:01

Well he was wiggling all night but still feels up high. Don't mind if he doesn't want to engage yet but would quite like him to turn around. And stay head down!

Just had a coffee and 2 Eccles cakes in bed for breakfast. Yummy.

But bet I pay for it shortly with indigestion lol.

Takingthestairs having her baby has me worried. Going to spend the day washing baby clothed and packing a bag with the stuff I have, and doing a list for the things I don't.

41 days to my edd and I'm on the 20/12 so that means some of us are due in 3 weeks. And could go in 1 week and be classed as normal!

It really has gone too, too quickly!

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 10:03:16

can people stop having their babies now and wait until their due date please? None of you lot are allowed to push until you're at least 37 weeks gone. Okay? Good. I am freaking out quite a bit today as I realised I am 37 weeks this month. I could have a baby by the end of this month and that isn't long enough at all.

I'm going to eat cake for breakfast because I can grin Happy Sunday ladies

MildredH Sun 03-Nov-13 10:51:57

Tell me about it- 36+1 today. Wierd, wierd, wierd. Think still but little bit of denial going on.. Happy denial. Love buying pink small things, just don't accept that someone teeny will occupy them!

Hosp bag remains unpacked. Carpet went down yest tho which is lovely. Just need to put the house back together! Then I'll definitely, definitely pack the bag!!

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 11:04:47

We have written the list of what is going in the bag. DP has made some sort of spreadsheet that details where the item is in the flat. He is taking it very seriously. We're packing babies bag tomorrow because we currently don't have much to go in mine. Waiting for payday on Thursday and then shall buy stuff for me. Anyone got any recommendations for maternity pads btw?

PistachioTruffle Sun 03-Nov-13 12:34:06

I'm with you all on the panicking thing, someone I know had their baby this week at 37 weeks, and realising that could be me in 3 weeks time made made me feel a bit faint! I'm not ready! Also, I woke up this morning and forgot I was pregnant. What the heck is that all about?'

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 12:35:37

whisper I was about to ask the same. Maternity pads which are the softest/ comfiest. And breast pads too.

Also (tmi) how long after having baby does your period come back? And when can you use a tampon is it after 6 weeks? I hate pads they make me feel yucky.

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 12:42:31

oh I regularly forget I'm pregnant pistachio usually when I've just woken up. I lie there feeling nice and then roll over and remember that I am infact a beached whale.

Chelsealady Sun 03-Nov-13 12:51:03

I feel so far behind to everyone else im not due till the 30th i still have 8 whole weeks sad

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 12:56:06

chelsea I have 7 weeks left and it feels like forever!! I'm hoping that lil one makes an appearance 2 weeks early
I due 21st but BIL is moving to Dubai on the 23rd so she needs to come early or on time so she can meet her uncle!!

I will actually cry if she's late. I don't want to still be pregnant at Christmas lol x

Chelsealady Sun 03-Nov-13 13:00:39

stom I keep saying i want her here on the 20th thats my ideal date because i dont want to be pregnant at xmas or in hospital at xmas and i certainly dont want to carry over into next year!!!

abcdemma Sun 03-Nov-13 13:04:59

Going back to the Xtreme, I'm looking at getting that one and wondering what you think of it frouby, Chelsea and feather. We don't do much 'off-roading' and I'm worried it looks mahoosive but the quality looks good which is the main thing.
Think I'm going to make a start on hospital bags today, but it means washing everything and there's already a pile of washing to get through before starting on baby stuff.
Also wondering about the period returning thing, and is it affected by contraception as I'm debating what to use post-baby. I've read so many horror stories about the mini-pill & implant turning people into bleeding hormonal wrecks confused Been stocking up in Tesco/Asda pads as they're only £1 for 10 but just seen 48 for £5 in Mothercare with 3 for 2 on offer so it'd be £10 for 150 which is miles better value....

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 13:06:25

Same I said to dp Christmas will be rubbish if she's not here lol as soon as I hit the 38 week mark I'm trying everything to get her out lol
My dad has a feeling she will be here the first week in December. I have the 9th in my head and dp has the 14th so we will see lol. We move on the 7th so she has to stay til then lol

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 13:09:40

liz I'll probably go back onto cerezette. I was on that before and had no problems.
I'm off to Brighton Wednesday to buy all the stuff for my bag
And do a little Xmas shopping smile

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 13:39:27

isn't it 37 weeks that baby is full term Storm perhaps you should start then. give you an extra week to try and get the little one out grin

my feet keep going numb and pins and needly today. That's not right is it?

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 13:45:33

Haha yeah. Going to buy a gym ball and get bouncing on that to see if she will turn as I think she is sideways. I'll find out Tuesday when I see the mw.

I don't think I can last til 40 weeks!! Why is pregnancy soooo long! Let hope she wants to be a 2013 baby and not a 2014 baby lol I actually want a few drinks new year! Lol

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 13:56:10

I want mine to come before or on time so that I get my christmas present of a decent wee grin It's not much to ask for is it?

MildredH Sun 03-Nov-13 14:46:12

I got the mother care pads on the 3 for 2 offer- got a pack of 48 which will start me off at least! Then the other 2 items I got breast pads and those pads for the bed/car whatever.. You can mix and match

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 14:59:23

pads for the bed/car? we needs pads for the bed/car? There is so much I don't know about sad

Chelsealady Sun 03-Nov-13 15:09:02

abc i dont do any off roading its not actually that chunky think it looks very nice. X

MollySJ Sun 03-Nov-13 15:31:45

I'd recommend the lasinoh breast pads as the best all rounders, as for pads I used the full on tens lady pants for 3-4 days then just went onto nighttime Always as wearing a 'nappy' got a tad irritating <grin>
As an aside is anyone on the Christmas bargains threads? It's amazing!! I'm pretty much sorted already and all at BARGAIN prices

BohemianRaspberry Sun 03-Nov-13 16:01:15

whisper the nct lady for us recommend picking up a pack of pads you put in kids beds for bedwetting for when your waters go, any accidents etc. I picked up a pack of seven pampers ones for £3 in ASDA. Good recommendation on the tena pants molly I didn't think about those.

We managed to get the isofix base into the car today with only one swear word ...

Counting down to maternity leave, marking my yr13 class for the last time, just yr11 lit essays to go and judging by the first five, they all look at C and above.

I really don't want little one coming late either - really don't want to be pregnant and overdue at Christmas. Already planning vast amounts of walking, curry, raspberry leaf and EVERYTHING else.

Onesliceortwo Sun 03-Nov-13 16:07:28

Hi there,
I can only apologise for not checking in more regularly - no excuses, but now I'm on fat leave (thankk God!) I may have a bit more of a chance!
Some of you have been asking about maternity pads/breast pads. FWIW and from my experience last time, go for the thickest maternity ones that you can find - the extra cushioning is much needed in those early days. You do need to use the maternity pads though and nothing with a 'dryweave topsheet' as if you run into difficulty afterwards (as I did) your midwife will need to see what you're actually losing - looking back now I can't believe that I was so happy to readily show my midwife my 'waste products' but tbh, having not long had several hands and various implements up my bits and pieces, I seriously didn't care! When I had DD (2 years ago) I used both the Boots and the Tesco ones - they did the job. Sainsbury's ones were to be avoided as they weren't plastic backed (they may be now though.)
Regarding breast pads - best advice I was given was to buy the most expensive you can afford - it makes a huge difference! I used the Tommee Tippee or the Lansinoh ones.
Stom - I don't know if you're having a vb or a section and I can't comment on a section, but trust me, if you have a vb you won't be wanting to use a tampon for a while - it's like waving a pencil round the Albert Hall if you get my drift! I breastfed my dd, had a brief period when I went on the pill about 8 weeks after having dd and then didn't start properly again until she was 9 months and I was cutting down feeds as I was returning to work.
Hope that's helpful x

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 16:30:16

Very helpful thank you oneslice

May have to check out that Christmas thread smile

Those pad thingys are a good idea bohemien as our mattress is an expensive memory foam one so will definitely be getting some!

Stom91 Sun 03-Nov-13 16:31:47

Oh and yay! To those starting maternity leave!
Have come cake cake

13loki Sun 03-Nov-13 17:14:20

We had to throw out our mattress topper after I accidentally gave birth in bed. I currently sit on a bed wetting pad when in the car.

Cake is what I'll miss now I'm on maternity leave. Unless I visit work every Friday for fika (Swedish coffee and cake tradition). I could time it so I could visit the different staffrooms and get 3 or 4 goes at fika, each with 3 or 4 different cakes.

My periods came back after about a year and a half with each of my 2.

ladymalfoy Sun 03-Nov-13 18:45:54

Hello everyone. The thread moves so quick I've no doubt this is a 'drive by ' intro!
I'm 32+2 and edd is 27 Dec.
Got all the kit just got to set up the nursery. Bought first baby clothes today and did our first NCT class yesterday.
If I'm honest I want to start mat leave now as I'm tired and want to get stuff sorted at home.
Good luck all and I'll try to keep up with the fastest thread ever!

ladymalfoy Sun 03-Nov-13 18:52:59

Whisper men ( and fellow Whovian?) I'm missing a proper wee too! There isn't any wee satisfaction at the moment although the more I move around the worse the urge gets.

Alyssa1978 Sun 03-Nov-13 19:01:45

I bled for around 7 weeks after I'd given birth as the bf didnt go as planned and after that stopped, my periods returned after 5 weeks so I went back to normal pretty quick.....well! Until I fell pregnant a few months later confused

I use Tommee Tippee breast pads and I just use always night pads or Kotex super pads they are both the thin ones but I found them better than the huge things. I have a few packs of mothercare thin maternity ones too, I just found the thick ones annoying.

I'm taking a break from my cleaning spree.
Just finished the downstairs toilet and then I need to finish the rest of downstairs tonight.
Upstairs is fine apart from our bathroom.

Think I may be nesting grin

WhisperMen Sun 03-Nov-13 19:02:54

<leaps around in excitement> ladymalfoy you are the first person to recognise where my name comes from. always nice to meet a fellow whovian

ladymalfoy Sun 03-Nov-13 19:09:06

Whisper. They were scary. Like the floaty,quiet men in Buffy. I hope the bump can wait until after the Xmas special !