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May 2014: The Maybies are growing humans - what's your superpower?

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We are superheroes grin

Sickness and scans galore in the latest installment of the Maybies' journey through human-growing.

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Cake, chicken nuggets, Shloer and whatever else we're craving is on the table ready grin

snoozysleeper Mon 21-Oct-13 13:53:30

How exciting a new thread!!

Thanks for setting it up moomin !!

bluestone85 Mon 21-Oct-13 13:53:45

Thanks moomin grin

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 13:55:07


smile anyone else into blogging? I've recently set one up and I'd be interested to read anyone else's if they do one smile

snoozysleeper Mon 21-Oct-13 14:03:57

I think I'll take the schloer smile I didn't realise anyone else was craving it too!!

snoozysleeper Mon 21-Oct-13 14:12:36

moomin I don't have a blog but if you want to share yours then please do smile

bluestone85 Mon 21-Oct-13 14:13:16

I think I've gone off chocolate....... not sure how that is possible! I'm a major chocoholic. This makes me very sad sad

bluestone I went right off chocolate for a few weeks. Still not overly fussed on it. Apparently it's quite common, happened to all my family at least.

bluestone85 Mon 21-Oct-13 14:17:35

Moomin Glad I'm not the only one. Oh well, will hopefully help my expanding waistline grin

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 14:26:53

moomin I don't blog (often thought about setting up a food related one) but love reading them.

Your not alone, ive been right off chocolate too even now I cant stand the smell of it when dd's have some.
The worst thing is I keep wanting tuna mayo sandwiches sad

Spirael Mon 21-Oct-13 14:28:12

I can still eat chocolate, but I'm not madly keen on it at the moment. I seem to be craving cool, refreshing things! Fruit is going down well, but what I reallyreallyreally want is a nectarine or a peach. Unfortunately they're not in season! [sob]

What I also want is an ice lolly. We have some in the freezer. At home. I'm at work... [wail] At least I can rectify that one later. smile By which point I probably won't want one anymore. hmm

Anyone else having weird/strong cravings? With DD it had to be cake and spicy curry! (But not at the same time. wink)

I technically have a much neglected blog, Moomin. But its primary purpose is to share updates and photos with family, who are spread pretty far and wide. So it's not very interesting reading, unfortunately! And would massively out me if I posted a link.

Mind you, speaking of outing... Would it be worthwile adding a (general) location column to the stats page? Then if there are groups of us in a similar area, it might be feasible to arrange some kind of meet up further down the line or after our lovely LOs are here. smile

thistlelicker Mon 21-Oct-13 14:30:44

I'm still really sleepy

If anyone's interested, here's my blog smile The Speed Bump

Spirael I think the craving that seems to amuse everyone I've told is the McDonalds chicken nuggets. Has to be McDonalds, any other type has suddenly started making me feel sick, when I used to love all types of nuggets hmm
Fruit is the big one for me too - anything sweet and juicy.

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 14:33:31

I've just suddenly started craving meat/protein. I am a former Vegan so it should be interesting. I've even done a meal plan and Shopping list for next week my appetite must be coming back.
I'm looking forward to being busy in the kitchen again.

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 14:34:57

thistle me too. I wasn't during my last pregnacy but this time around I'm permantly tired.

wm3010 Mon 21-Oct-13 14:39:11

Hi ladies - thanks for the new thread moomin. My scan is a week today, why does time seem to be passing so slowly?!

hobbjobb Mon 21-Oct-13 15:01:34

Ooh shiny new thread, thanks moomin

Massive sickness today but I've managed to hold down some hoummous and breadsticks so fingers crossed...

According to LMP I'm 10 weeks today, still no scan date yet, I'm itching to tell people!!!

Today's my day off so I've been curled up on my sofa with my purry little cat watching catch up tv of One Born Every minute and blubbing at everything.

Hope everyone has a great week

Flixy102 Mon 21-Oct-13 15:07:45

New thread thanks moomin! Ive also been reading your blog and ive really enjoyed it so far!

Scan tomorrow, finally!

snoozysleeper Mon 21-Oct-13 15:20:42

Yes moomin I agree with flixy you write very well!

bluestone85 Mon 21-Oct-13 15:25:42

Hehehehe Moomin love the blog! I also like the use of my visions of you invisible hula-hooping around the hospital grin I would do one, but mine would not be anywhere near as interesting.

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 15:27:23

Hey moomin I'll check out your blog when I get home. I used to blog but I won't share as it would totally out me!
These days I don't feel like I have anything interesting enough to say!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 15:35:27

Moomin, I'm not sure if I've given mine to you already, but mine is Cakes, Kids and Other Ramblings I update very regularly, although I haven't blogged since Friday! Feel free to take a look!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 15:38:24

Moomin I love the Emma's diary post! Very very true!

hamncheese Mon 21-Oct-13 15:44:30

Ooh yay love blogs mine is Sandy's Castle named after my DS and our home move. Recent posts are a bit less happy than usual, I blame ms.

Going to nosey at yours now...

FrightFlea Mon 21-Oct-13 15:54:19

littlebairn if you are thinking that you are leaking more than the usual amount of discharge, then you should get yourself to the EPAU. Better to get it checked and told that it was nothing. Especially after what happened to you.

I was surprised myself how much extra discharge occurs from pregnancy but not so much that I would wonder if it was something other than cm.

<Warning, don't read if you have ms, food alert!>. My cravings have taken me to the dark side. I ate 2 hot dogs with pickled gherkins last night. I don't particularly like hot dogs and HATE gherkins. Usually. An alien has taken over my taste buds. It was lovely! -hangs head in shame-

Squiffie Mon 21-Oct-13 16:17:35

Woohoo, I'm here grin

I think a general location tab would be great - maybe just county for starters?

RosesInTheRain Mon 21-Oct-13 16:25:42

marking place, fab to hear good scan news today

My scan is tomorrow and I'm terrified... lots of history confused

Squiffie Mon 21-Oct-13 16:25:44

Frightflea you're a disgrace! Please get your coat and do t come back until you are eating 'normal' things please grin

Spirael Mon 21-Oct-13 16:32:04

Not convinced about the gerkins, but actually a hot dog sounds pretty good... :9 I wonder if I can persuade DH to change the meal plans for tonight.

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 16:34:29

With this pregnancy, I haven't had any consistent cravings at all. One minute it's melted cheese, the next it's mashed carrots and brown sauce and the next it's corned beef or something else. Dh is doing really well out of it because as soon as I buy a truck load of "the only food I ever want to eat", I immediately go off it.

At the minute he's got spicy nik naks, salt and vinegar mini chips, frozen yoghurt and cheese pizzas to get through!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 16:58:31

I went to ikea on Saturdays and was really craving a hot dog. Hate the things so stayed away but you talking about them now makes we want to run out and buy some so I can cut them up in our pasta! hmm this kid has it's daddy's taste buds!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 16:59:03

I could really eat a pizza about now too! Shame carbs are still making me feel off.

shanks313 Mon 21-Oct-13 17:04:39

I am really hating the idea of pizza right now.
I have had a mad thing for bacon.. My other pregnancies wouldn't go near bacon or mushrooms.
Couldn't think of anything to eat for lunch so had sausage roll and apple sauce
Got early scan tomorrow at 10 weeks .. Excited but also terrified that nothing will be there.
Sooo tired today.. Been wanting to sleep all day.. Had to ask in laws to pick up kids from school.

hamncheese and cbeebies, I've had a read of your blogs - love them smile now following (cbeebies I've liked yours on Facebook... I assume that's the equivalent of following on wordpress?)

thistlelicker Mon 21-Oct-13 17:38:20

Was there a Facebook group set up ?

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 17:59:50

I don't believe so thistle Moomin is talking about my Facebook page for my blog readers!

There are lots of ways to follow Moomin, Facebook is as good as any!

All this talk of food is making me hungry!

hamncheese Mon 21-Oct-13 18:00:43

No Facebook group yet thistle

Agree for location... Happy to disclose county here. Last time there were a lot of Scottish mums (I'm Scottish) randomly!

Following you too moomin smile

I've been getting the short lived cravings. Something is amazing for max two days then I can't look at it, so DH is left to Hoover up the remains. He's put on a stone in pregnancy weight with each baby so far hahaha

Last time I craved ice. I would go to Costco buy two massive drinks containers and fill them with ice from the machine instead of coke and then crunch away on the ice alllllll day long.

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 18:08:08

Haha hamncheese we're exactly the same, craving wise.

I'm okay to disclose county too. Northamptonshire here!

thistlelicker Mon 21-Oct-13 18:10:50

I've had weetabix as a snack set my blood sugars are low

randdom Mon 21-Oct-13 18:17:40

I'm in Sussex

Hamncheese I love your blog post on morning sickness. I just made my husband read it as it might give him a bit of an idea of why I am so moody.

We have just got to a nice hotel as it is our anniversary tomorrow. We have food booked for 7:30 and I am really hoping that there is something I can eat without being sick hmm

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 18:19:28

Frightflea I don't actually think I am leaking, I'm not damp or seeing anything, its more of a sensation. I've even been going around knicker less. blush
I am going to call my midwife for a talk tomorrow.
If anything its possibly bladder trouble I had a manual removal of my placenta with mini forceps, I haven't had any trouble with it before but maybe pregancy is just stressing it a bit.
Maybe its a sign to do some Pelvic floor excersise, anyone done them? Did it make any difference?

moobaloo Mon 21-Oct-13 18:20:28

Yay! new thread!

Blogs all very interesting, I love reading blogs and can spend hours of useful time browsing instead of making soup (like I was supposed to yesterday... oops)

I am so, so, so tired right now, I was in bed at 9pm last night. DP came through and said "if you think you're tired now, wait until it's born". He's right, but I threw a pillow at him anyway. (lucky I had nothing heavier to hand...)

I don't know what to cook for tea and it's stressing me out! confused potato omelette or cottage pie? aaaahhhhh

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 18:36:20

moo my DH the same points out it be no different when we have a baby, but right now its cosy inside me so I want some sleep!

I think I might be coming down with a cold too. At least I'm no longer working so I can veg out at home.

Xavielli Mon 21-Oct-13 18:37:23

Cbeebies I make cakes too smile mine can be seen on my Facebook profile ( www.facebook.com/RuthEBrennan ) it's the only part that's public.

I'm mad for meat at the moment and all things pickled. I managed to get up a hankering for chocolate today (after 6 weeks of not wanting it. Loving strawberry split lollies too.

Ooo I'd love a juicy peach!!

LongTailedTit Mon 21-Oct-13 18:51:47

LittleBairn - there's an MNer called GussieGrips who's downright evangelical about pelvic floor exercises, I think she's an HCP of some sort.
There was a thread recently where she said that a THIRD of women currently suffer some incontinence!! and that it can be generally be fixed (for most people) by doing pfe's three times a day for three months.
For the rest of us, we should be doing them once daily for the rest of our lives anyway!

I'm rubbish at remembering, probably do them three times a month, if that.... blush

But yes, def a wise idea to ramp them up during pregnancy. I had a bit of incontinence for a couple of days after DS was born, it was not good.

hamncheese Mon 21-Oct-13 18:54:09

randomm that'll set him straight ;) it was a bit of a mega rant. I just get fed up of those sort of smiles that's indicate they think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. I found another fab analogy... Imagine the norovirus...FOR TWO MONTHS.

As for sleep I am so so so so much more tired now than I was when DS was a newborn. Mind you I was particularly tired after seven months of two hourly wakings... But it was more a mental breakdown than a lot of tiredness!

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 18:55:06

Hamncheese your blog about ms is spot on!

hamncheese Mon 21-Oct-13 18:55:11

Confession. I don't do pelvic floor exercises... No probs post DS. But I'm led to believe its later in life this might come back to bite me. Tens lady in waiting.

I don't know how to do pelvic floor exercises sad I've tried so hard but the leaking has already started, if I sneeze ferociously or laugh too much. It's horrible sad

Great blog moomin!! xx

Movetothesound Mon 21-Oct-13 19:39:23

Hi All,
I've just found this site and thread so thought i'd join in, good to have lots of others going through the same thing, i'm 9 weeks, due on 23rd may and have my scan in 3 weeks. Look forward to chatting to you smile

I'm in North East Wales (Wrexham if we're talking counties) smile

Welcome move

loopylou52 Mon 21-Oct-13 19:54:36

Welcome move.

I meant to say earlier, I had the flu jab on Saturday (a clinic thing at the docs where you basically just queue up, rather than having a specific appointment). My arm has been sore but is getting better, and no other effects as yet.

I'm pleased to report that having gone off chocolate, tea and yogurts (my previous staples) I'm now getting back to eating all three. Currently eating an obscene amount of rocky road!

Xavielli Mon 21-Oct-13 19:54:51

Welcome move

I'm in Oxfordshire.

dobedobedo Mon 21-Oct-13 19:56:37

Welcome move!

I don't want to jinx anything but I've just got into bed and I haven't been sick at all today! grin

This must be the first day in I've lost count how many weeks that I haven't puked. I've certainly felt like it, pretty much all day but I've tried hard not to. Go me!

Maybe this second trimester thing does get easier than the first!

Vikks Mon 21-Oct-13 19:56:54

Lovely new thread!

Movetothesound Welcome! Make yourself at home. Are you well or have you been suffering with the dreaded MS? x

I've been working my way through the blogs. Moomin had to smile re. the jam doughnuts, been there when DP wouldn't get me a take away at 3 am (on the way back from the airport)! grin

Great news on the scans today x

Vikks Mon 21-Oct-13 19:59:55

dobedobedo Well done on the not puking!!! Result x x

thistlelicker Mon 21-Oct-13 20:04:51

Has anybody had their
Nuchal scan yet?

Magpie78 Mon 21-Oct-13 20:07:28

Hello everyone am back from hold with a raspberry. Am in Hertfordshire, have midwife appt tomorrow, feels a little bit more official then....
I also only want tuna mayo sandwiches or chips and now get very emotional when I can't have them. grin

Magpie78 Mon 21-Oct-13 20:08:03

*holiday, whoops!

Xavielli Mon 21-Oct-13 20:33:34

Mines on Friday thistle not looking forward to the blood tests.

thistlelicker Mon 21-Oct-13 20:37:13

Mines is Wednesday! I know the girl who does them so think will b ok

Cupcake1985 Mon 21-Oct-13 20:44:14

Ooooo dobedobedo I'm northamptonshire too! Work in northampton currently live in a village near kettering smile

Dylanlovesbaez Mon 21-Oct-13 20:54:51

Helloooo! How are you all doing?
I'm 9 weeks now but still no date for booking in appointment, will be chasing tomorrow. Been sick quite a bit but nowhere near as much as last time but queasiness lasts all day whereas last time I threw up every day but that was it.
I look huuuuuuge! People are guessing and I'm really struggling with hip and back pain. Can't wait for scan, just need to know there's (one) baby in there!
Oh and I'm in hove but having baby in worthing.

LittleBairn Mon 21-Oct-13 21:00:01

longtailed I will look out for that poster/thread thanks for the tip.

moomin I think I know how to do them (it's meant to be the muscles you use for weeing) but it takes me a lot of effort I can't do them uness I focus on it. But I've heard f devices that are supposed to help....

In fact one woman told me that in France it's a matter of course you see a specialist that umm trains you....using what sounded remarkably like a dildo. shock

Welcome move smile

Ive felt somewhat human again this evening, which has now made me paranoid! 9 + 4 today.

Im in West London.

moomin excuse my crude terms, but basically to do pfe. You pull your bum hole and hooha inwards and upwards thus clenching the muscles together. You need to hold it for 5 seconds 10 times. I think?!

Thanks mumof2 . Think I just managed it... it feels strange though hmm

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 21:10:22

I'm in North Somerset, Weston to be precise.

Moomin, wear panty liners at all times! Some women find that the lactin produced during pregnancy relaxes their muscles too much and incontenance is an issue during pregnancy. It sounds like you might be one of these w

CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 21:13:09

Women, especially considering it's your 1st baby. Mention it to your midwife next time you see her and see if you can get a referral to the physio. They'll give 1on1 advice and explain how to do the pelvic floor exercises.
I'm a firm believer all pregnant women should automatically see a physio at least once during pregnancy, there are so many problems that are so easily fixed or helped but are ignored because it's too expensive angry
Ok physio rant over!

moomin I often practice my pve during sex, OH likes it hmm


CbeebiesIsMyLife Mon 21-Oct-13 21:43:21

I do that too mumof2 when I get bored blush dh also likes it hmm

If I'm doing it right, I've always been able to do it during sex without realising they were pfe blush, I just can't seem to do it now. And I'm not really in the mood for it lately... plus OH has watched Knocked Up too many times and thinks he's going to poke the baby in the eye hmm

rebeccax2 Mon 21-Oct-13 22:02:20

Great scan news today!

Ive gone of sugar - chocolate particularly.

And I'm craving salads like crazy.

OH's friend - a midwife - looked at the scan and said she reckons it's a girl this evening grin Bounty and the Chinese Gender predictor may just be right after all grin

Had my scan this afternoon. It was amazing. So clear compared to the others I've had.
We took MIL with us, so she got to see the baby bouncing around all over the place it didn't seem to stop the whole time we were there.

Had my nuchel fold test done today so she wanted the baby to move off the bottom, which it wasn't up for doing. So she asked me to slam my bum down on the bed. Did it and the poor thing went flying. It was so cute and crazy to think that when I'm going about my ordinary life it'll just be in there moving about.

I think I caught a glimpse of the nub, even though you can't see it on the pics that i have, and I'm convinced it's a boy now. The scan was so clear I could even see the profile of it's face and I swear it looked like my dad. Also I have a gigantic baby inside of me. By dates I should be 12+2, if I go by what they told me at 8 weeks scan then I should be 12+3, and today they measured me at 12+5!! Know I can't be that far along, so I think I just have a long baby. DH is 6ft 5, so guessing baby is going to be tall. Another reason why I think it's a boy.

Put 3 photos from the scan on my mumsnet pics.

Glad all the other scanee's that we've heard back from had good days.

Good luck to all of you having them tomorrow.

loopylou52 Mon 21-Oct-13 23:30:55

Wow impatiently, that sounds amazing!

Tried my new doppler tonight but couldn't find anything. hmm Determined not to panic though, as I known it's still pretty early and I didn't really know what I was doing.

snoozysleeper Tue 22-Oct-13 00:47:46

Ah congrats impatiently so pleased for you!!

Was there someone else yesterday meant to be having a scan that we've not heard from? I don't think we've heard from nanny have we? I hope all is well

snoozysleeper Tue 22-Oct-13 01:06:13

Just checked back on last thread and nanny had said she would let us know after 11:40 yesterday confused I really hope she's just been too busy to get back to us all !

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 04:54:17

Omg!!!! I can't move!!! Need to see if doc will do home visit !!!

hamncheese Tue 22-Oct-13 05:35:44

Hooray dobe <no sick high five> I have now had two days in a row of feeling good... And this morning I came downstairs (yes at 5am bah) and ate toast and a yoghurt and realised I didn't gag at the smell of downstairs or the fridge or anything for the first time. Please please please let me be on the up!

I have an exciting day today. Booking in with my independent midwife. In the comfort of my home! And then the second scan this Avro. Going to take DS to see the new baba, and hope they don't refuse him entry. Dad is coming too though in case they have a problem. Will be so sweet to see them both IYSWIM!

Any other scots out there? I'm in north Lanarkshire smile

Hope you all have happy nonsick days. Bring on the bloom that moomins blog so rightfully argues not to exist. I think of it more as feeling not quite so like a dead person rather than a bloom!

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 05:55:37

I'm a scot in England

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 06:04:14

Could seriously kill dh right now angry I've hardly slept a wink through sickness, him snoring and general discomfort. He's got to be up and out early so he's set the most shrill sounding alarm (cos he sleeps through the normal one) that woke me as I was just nodding off, scared the fucking life out of me. Then he put it on fucking SNOOZE, so it did it again, I'll snooze his bloody ass, aaaargh!

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 06:05:02

^^sorry just needed to rant. Going to TRY and get an hours kip now.

Xavielli Tue 22-Oct-13 06:48:57

Are you ok Thistle?

Squiffie - that's nuts in a vice territory right there. Almost akin to spraying deodorant in the bedroom.... I go mental.

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 07:10:22

More sleep didn't happen so now extremely tired and grumpy!

Good news on the scan impatiently smile

Hope you're ok thistle x

I'm from Yorkshire but I think I'd already given that one away! grin

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 07:15:19

I went to a n e an hour ago because of the pain, wasn't even triaged - have walked out will try and get to gp!

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 07:25:37

Where's the pain thistle? Hope everything is okay X

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 07:27:27

Morning! This morning I ate a whole bowl of cheerios without retching grin

Let's see how the rest of the morning goes

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 07:27:33

Right across lower back sadsadsadsad

Spirael Tue 22-Oct-13 08:07:28

thistle, do you have a minor injuries unit near you? If so, try that instead of A&E. Usually much less crowded and a lot quicker, but they normally have all the diagnostic equipment, medical expertise and pharmaceuticals still.

Also, you could try calling 111 (if it's active in your area) for the non-emergency NHS helpline. Though I expect they'll just tell you to report to a MIU or the GP.

WFH again today, thank goodness. I seem to have developed travel sickness on top of my MS, or at least travelling makes my MS infinitely worse. I nearly threw up on the bus home yesterday, not nice!

I then fell asleep on the sofa at 7:30pm as soon as DD was put to bed and just migrated upstairs to bed when DH prodded me at around 9:30pm. Slept all night and I'm still tired this morning. Not faaair... I literally can't squeeze any more sleep into my day!

Squiffie, whereabouts in Yorkshire are you, if you don't mind me asking? smile I'm in West Yorkshire, near Leeds.

moobaloo Tue 22-Oct-13 08:09:37

Oh no thistle! Hope all is ok xx

I have my booking in soon - eek!

Magpie78 Tue 22-Oct-13 08:12:01

Thistle have you got an EPU at your local hospital, call them if so. May well just be ligaments stretching especially if you ever suffer with back pain but they will check everything for you. Or call the maternity unit at the hospital. Hope you feel better.

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 08:21:55

Thistle it could be a kidney infection. The last time I was pregnant I had the most excruciating lower back pain and that's what it was. Pregnant women are prone to them.
Let us know what the doc says xx

rebeccax2 Tue 22-Oct-13 08:34:39

impatiently I waited to hear from you all day! Amazing news. The photos are absolutely adorable. :-)

thistle it could be anyone of a number of things, so you need to speak to a doctor.

Spirael I'm exactly the same. I can't get enough sleep, like ever. It seems to be getting slightly better now so fingers crossed we're coming out of the worst of it! I hate the tiredness more than the MS.

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 08:42:21

I rang 111 they said attend a n e as it's the closest unit! I waited over an hour and was t even triaged !! 111 said it sounds like a bad uti and needs antibiotics, I have gp this afternoons ! Can't have paracetamol until around 0930 so tucked up in bed with a hot water bottle

bushprincess Tue 22-Oct-13 08:49:05

love the blogs cbeebies, hamncheese and moomin will be keeping abreast of your stories!

Great news on yesterdays scan impatiently what amazing pictures - look at those little fingers!!

Good luck with todays scan flixy and roses.... I feel your fear roses but I'm sure everything will be ok and really looking forward to hearing good news later.

Hope we hear back from nanny soon

I'm feeling more positive today, slept appallingly so have re-convinced myself that it must be the influence of little prune/lime... so fx for tomorrows scan.

littlebairn I hope you manage to get an earlier scan appointment, 14 weeks seems crazily long to wait if you're meant to be on high risk monitoring. sorry you're having to deal with that.

hope everyone has a good and preferably nausea-free day!

bushprincess Tue 22-Oct-13 09:01:15

Hope you get to the bottom of it soon thistle sounds excruiating

wm3010 Tue 22-Oct-13 09:11:25

Yay for lovely scan news again today!

thistle I hope you get sorted today and that it's something easily fixable and not serious.

I'm in Scotland too, in Fife though work in Edinburgh.

CbeebiesIsMyLife Tue 22-Oct-13 09:22:23

Good luck everyone with scans today, thistle hope the pain eases soon x

I'm off to Worcester today to speak to a head midwife about dd2's birth and pregnancy. I'm really nervous and am feeling sick just thinking abou it. It was a very traumatic expiearience and I'm hoping to put to be all the anxiety and worry about her pregnancy and birth.

I really have no interest in complaining and I don't want to soun like I'm accusing them, but I need answers.

Thanks Guys, sorry to have kept you waiting Rebecca, we went for celebratory food and then to the cinema after the scan which is why I hadn't posted til late.

Hope all is well with Nanny.

Good luck today for scanees.

Thistle it sounds like you are having an awful time with your back. Hope that the doc can help ASAP.

Glad to hear so many people are starting to see a light at the end of a tunnel for morning sickness.

jellyandcake Tue 22-Oct-13 09:36:28

I'm another one from West Yorkshire and proud possessor of a peach I think. 14 weeks tomorrow so definitely in the second trimester. Have had a month off work with debilitating nausea but went back yesterday and managed ok. Got so tired that I thought I was going to puke all over the doorstep when I arrived home but ate some salt'n'vinegar crisps and had a nap and the urge to vomit passed.

Am properly in maternity clothes now! Have been reading an incredibly annoying pregnancy book which advises against buying any new clothes until the third trimester and borrowing clothes from your husband or 'larger friends' (!!) until then lest you become sick of maternity clothes! But neither my DH nor any of my friends are shaped like a pregnant lady with massive norks so I don't get how that is supposed to work...! So have ordered some nice dresses from Jojomamanbebe instead and am keeping a keep eye on ASOS smile

jellyandcake Tue 22-Oct-13 09:37:44

A keen eye that should read!

jellyandcake Tue 22-Oct-13 09:39:16

And I am a fraudulent Maybie as scan put my due date forwards to 23 April. But as I started the first May thread I don't want to leave!

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 09:51:10

Well that Didn't go well! Called my midwife about the leaking and also because I'm now feel dehydrated (even thought I'm drinking loads of water) and feeling a throbbing pain internally.
My community midwife says EPU won't see me because I'm over 12 weeks & I have a scan booked. So told me to phone triage.
Called Triage basically they don't think it's anything concerning so they won't see me. sad

jelly don't worry about dates the babies will be born all over the place, I'm due 2 May but I feel it's unlikely I will get to 40 weeks so possibly an April baby.

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 09:51:38

The sickness is not getting any easier and I've booked a doctors appointment for tomorrow to speak to them about it. I can't contact my midwife, its a joke! The only way I have of getting in touch with the midwife is to phone epau at the hospital and if they think its necessary then they'll contact her on my behalf! Oh or I can contact the central office for community midwives and they'll take a message and ask my midwife to call me.

How do other people access their midwife? Where I lived when I had ds and dd I had a mobile number for midwife that you could either ring or text.

I'm in South Yorkshire by the way spirael

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 09:55:59

hamncheese I'm in (i think south) Lanarkshire too! Which hospital are you using, I'm Wishaw General.

jellyandcake Tue 22-Oct-13 10:01:01

Good luck squiffie at the doctor's. It really does seem to be a matter of luck as to whether you get a sympathetic and well-informed doctor wrt pregnancy sickness or not. Given how many women just on this thread who are really suffering, I think it's a disgrace that it isn't more widely known about or taken seriously. It is debilitating. It can seriously affect your ability to work. I agonised about going off sick but DH pointed out that if I felt so ill when not pregnant I would not be at work so why feel I should when pregnant? It's shocking how many people seem to feel you should just somehow get on with it when you simply can't.

Anyway, I hope your doctor is helpful! My midwife gave me a phone number but I haven't needed to call it so don't know how easily contactable she actually is.

hamncheese Tue 22-Oct-13 10:33:33

That's shocking squiffie you really should have a direct number to your community midwife team. Good luck at the doctor, the medication really helped me so if you go down that route I hope it helps you too.

littlebairn that's rubbish they won't see you. Can you not call maternity assessment? I went there a couple of times about things, this was when in Glasgow though, not sure about here (moved in may). I'm attending wishaw for scans but generally just the health centre and my indie midwife comes to the house. Hopefully not but if I do have to have a hospital birth it would be wishaw

bushprincess Tue 22-Oct-13 10:35:22

what a pain squiffie, I've no idea about the workings of the NHS, but I hope you manage to get a number for someone that you can call direct fx.

wm hope you cope with the wait tilll your scan next week - time drags so slowly eh?!

littlebairn sorry you're not been taken seriously. do hope they are right and nothing to worry about.

Jelly second littlebairn on that - stick with us - I'm sure we'll be spread out from mid-April till mid-june as I'm sure none of the beans have read the book and will come when they want to come! great that we're all in this together and will be exciting waiting for each arrival, from the first to the last!

bluestone85 Tue 22-Oct-13 10:40:34

Beautiful scans impatiently

Hope your back eases up soon Thistle

bluestone85 Tue 22-Oct-13 10:42:40

Oh, I'm in Lincolnshire - not far from Grantham.

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 11:07:14

ham Maternity assessment and Triage are pretty much all the same thing at Wishaw, when I had my hematoma at 8 weeks I was bounce around around on the phone to the all eventually I gave up and called hairmyers and was seen within the hour.

I need to make an appointment to see my GP to tomorrow anyway so I will raise it with her too, she's very proactive and I trust he judgement.

If you do go to Wishaw (even after all the hassle I've had) the midwives are fantastic (in fact i would go to say they rule the roost) their birth pool rooms rarely used so often available and I can highly reccomend some of the male consultants.

I'm not sure if you fall under it but Hairmyers also does Scans and EPU they are fantastic. I seriously don't rate the Wishaw Sonography department but I could have just been unluckly with them.

I was planning a home birth with my first ( I did actually deliver him at home I was very smug about it because they really aren't keen on HB around here so felt like it was our little victory together) it's very likely this one will be a hospital birth but I'm open to HB if the hospital start to try to get too medical.

moobaloo Tue 22-Oct-13 11:50:27

I just had my booking in appt grin Midwife was really nice, not my "actual" midwife as she had just worked a night shift but one from their team. I also have a trainee midwife who is going to use me as one of her projects and come to all my scans and appointments and hopefully the birth! (I'd better try and fit it around her uni schedule smile ) Was weird looking at her and thinking she'll probably be there in 7 months time when I am pushing a human out of me... ew.

Our hospital has a maternity led bit and I've opted to give birth there, instead of in the main hospital, although I can be transferred if necessary as it's just down the corridor. They'll only let me if I'm still a low risk by the time I come to have it but I'm low risk at the moment which is nice grin I considered a home birth (I was born at home, in a birthing pool) but we're a long way from the hospital and I'm nervous!

Hope everythings goes ok for those struggling with pain/doctors etc. at the moment, hopefully it'll all be fine and you'll have forgotten all about it in a few weeks because it will no longer be important smile

hobbjobb Tue 22-Oct-13 12:15:14

Hello everyone, sorry to hear some of you are having a hard time.

I'm in Hampshire so a lot further South than most of you!

shanks313 Tue 22-Oct-13 12:36:24

Bye everyone
Went for reassurance scan today and I have had a MMC.. Totally unexpected
Hope your pregnancies well x

hamncheese Tue 22-Oct-13 12:38:23

That's good to know that you rate wishaw littlebairn. How come you don't fancy a home brith this time round?

Shanks I'm so sorry, what a dreadful shock. So so sorry. Thinking of you.

moobaloo Tue 22-Oct-13 12:50:44

shanks so, so sorry. Thinking of you and sending love... It is so shocking when something like this happens, cannot imagine how you must be feeling xxxxxxxx

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 12:52:33

ham The main reason is I tested positive for GSB during my first pregnacy if I test positive again I will need antibiotics.
This region are very against HB (they claim they aren't but in my experience they are) and I don't see to them agreeing to allow me the antibiotics at home.

But also because my experience has been awful with the community midwives (excluding my current midwife but its quite likely she wouldn't attend me) and I feel more confident with the midwives at Wishaw. I spent 5 days there and they were all wonderful very respectful and compassionate.

If I am unhappy with how I feel they will handle/react to my pregancy, espcially wanting to make it a medicalised birth then I will consider a Indi Midwife.

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 12:53:17

shanks just saw your post in so sorry that's a devastating shock. sad

rebeccax2 Tue 22-Oct-13 12:55:43

Oh Shanks I'm so sorry. I'm thinking of you. sad

bluestone85 Tue 22-Oct-13 12:56:49

shanks how awful for you! I'm so sorry that you've had to go through that. Make sure you take care of yourself xxxx

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 12:59:18

So sorry shanks xxxx

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 13:08:22

thanks Shanks xxxx

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 13:12:04

Oh no shanks sorry to hear your sad news, take care of yourself! X

Movetothesound Tue 22-Oct-13 13:16:20

Vikks i've had nausea pretty much 24/7 but I've only been sick a couple of time, i felt no nausea over the weekend and immediately wanted it to come back!

rebeccax2 i've been craving salad as well, not a big fan before pregnancy now i cant get enough of it!

congrats impatiently

wm3010 Tue 22-Oct-13 13:28:33

shanks that's awful, look after yourself x

bushprincess Tue 22-Oct-13 13:30:39

oh shanks so sorry to hear that. what a horrendous shock for you. Hope you have the support you need at home to grieve your loss.

snoozysleeper Tue 22-Oct-13 13:31:25

Oh shanks so sorry to hear your news flowers

Spirael Tue 22-Oct-13 13:41:32

So sorry to hear that, shanks. sad

I ended up at the doctors this morning because while I can cope with the MS, fatigue and dizziness that pregnancy is throwing at me, I just can't cope with them while commuting and working FT! All I can manage currently is to collapse on the sofa with a bucket and feel sorry for myself.

I didn't bother trying to contact my MW, as past experience with MWs is that you generally get a "Live with it!" response to what is seen as normal pregnancy complaints.

Luckily, I ended up seeing a lovely nurse practitioner who was really sympathetic. I have to pop back this afternoon so they can take my bloods to make sure it's nothing more sinister and that my iron levels haven't plummeted already.

I've also been signed off work for two weeks, for which I could cry with relief! Hopefully the worst will be over by then, but she's told me that if not they'll just renew it until I'm recovered enough to work.

I feel really guilty about leaving my work in the lurch. sad But I just haven't been able to function at all for the past few days and it's not really helping them for me to drag myself into the office.

8+3... Not long to go, right? confused

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 13:51:28

You hsve to look after yourself and your bean spirael

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 13:57:55

Look after yourself Spirael. If I had a long commute I wouldn't come to work either.

Look after yourself Spirael

Shanks I'm so sorry. thanks

Squiffie Tue 22-Oct-13 14:36:09

Apparently it peaks around week 9 Spirael hmm

McBaby Tue 22-Oct-13 14:53:10

littlebairn in the same boat as you re gas in previous pregnancy. I have the problem that my labour was v quick so a home birth is likely this time so I feel its better to plan for it just in case but the hospital are already suggesting hospital and antibiotics would be best even though not tested positive yet this pregnancy.

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 15:03:52

McBaby My consultant already said even before I was pregant that not having the antibiotics is always an option that a lot of people are positive and don't know it and never receive the antibiotics.
There is always monitoring the baby and giving antibiotics directly to the baby if there is a concern.

My concern with the antibiotics is compromising the babies gut flora.
It's hard to decide what to do for the best.

I am currently trying to take steps to try keep the GSB away, I have done a lot of reading and the most seem to say Probiotics are worth a try, high Vit C and garlic capsules.
I'm already taking Vit C to help build a strong amnotic sac and trying to eat probiotic yogurts.

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 15:08:55

spireal don't under estimate what a serious strain pregancy can put on your body, enjoy the rest.
I know when I was seriously struggling I saw the red mist if anyone dared to utter 'its not an illness'.
I just can't imagine anyone else in society being expected to carry on with weeks/months of sickness, dizziness, dehydration, fatigue with a compromised immune system and be patronised like pregnant women are when struggling.

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 15:13:51

Little you're so right. I noted the absurdity earlier of me spending 15 minutes throwing up, only to walk back to my desk and to carry on making phone calls.

If I was sick in work and I wasn't pregnant, I'd go home! But we're just expected to get on with it. It's frigging exhausting.

Oh and my "not throwing up any more" lasted a day. Bleugh.

One week until the scan! * nervous face *

loopylou52 Tue 22-Oct-13 15:39:03

So sorry to hear your news shanks thanks

Hope you're feeling better soon thistle and, of course, those of you with sickness. Cbeebies - did you ever get to the bottom of why you were feeling funny?

I've had a headache all day and paracetamol aren't touching it. Bloody hormones!

NannyPlumForPM Tue 22-Oct-13 15:57:47

Heyho thlsmile sorry for needless worry - scan went fine! Had second half of booking in too smile am going to be consultant led which was expected really! Am now apparently 12+2 which was somewhere around what I thought so my due date is.... May the 4th hmm

But 2 arms, 2 legs and a huge giant head!! So I'm happy smile congrats to all other scannees! Hopefully I'll get my 20 week scan a bit early because the consultant will want to scan to see the gender ASAP so I'm just waiting for my letters thlgrin

NannyPlumForPM Tue 22-Oct-13 15:59:11

And cbeebies- I'm in Worcester too! smile

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 16:08:15

May the 4th? So your dh/dp can lift the baby saying "I am your father!" Congrats on the scan!
Can I ask why the consultant wants to know the sex of the baby?

McBaby Tue 22-Oct-13 17:00:40

little thanks for the extra info maybe wilil start on probiotics etc. I really don't want to give a new born antibiotics and would rather have them my self if anyone needs to. Guess have to wait and see how it pans out. But no idea how I will have 4 hours worth antibiotics in this time when 2 hours before giving birth last time they wanted to send me home as I was not in labour!

snoozysleeper Tue 22-Oct-13 17:08:46

Excellent news nanny grin I had been worrying for you

Sending best wishes for your 20wk scan also

SarahChez Tue 22-Oct-13 17:16:57

Hello everyone!
I've been lurking for a while now, but I was a bit scared to post incase something went wrong or I was imagining being pregnant :P
Anyway, I had my 12 week scan yesterday and we have a beautiful little baby in my tummy and evrrything is as it should be. I'm 24 and this will be my first baby, me and my husband only got married at the end of June so it's happened quite fast grin

Flixy102 Tue 22-Oct-13 17:17:58

I'm so so sorry shanks I've really no words to make it better, take care of yourself xxx

Flixy102 Tue 22-Oct-13 17:21:42

Another may the 4th baby here! Had first scan and baby wasn't cooperating and couldn't get any clear pictures apart from measuring its crown rump length so went and did the other booking in things, came back and got lots of clear pics and baby was waving lol

So sorry shanks thinking of you.

Welcome Sarah smile

Congrats Flixy, Nanny and Sarah on the good news.

Dobe I think Nanny has a higher risk of miscarriage if she is carrying a boy due to a genetic condition? Is that right Nanny? Hence why the consultant will be arranging to find out the sex as soon as they can.

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 18:03:23

I maybe have kidney stones!
Urine sample sent and back to gp next week

Vikks Tue 22-Oct-13 18:10:53

So sorry Shanks thanks x

We're getting dwarf hamsters tomorrow.

Is this a big mistake? (Please tell me it isn't, because I really want a pet. I miss my dog so much sad )

Vikks Tue 22-Oct-13 18:20:21

Welcome Sarah congratulations on the scan.

thistlelicker sounds awful, hang in there. Hopefully if it is kidney stones they'll sort it quickly.

Great news on other scans ladies!

I'm another one who can see the light at the end of the MS! Very mild today and functioning 'normal'! 10+4 and over the worst. grin

AliOh Tue 22-Oct-13 18:37:43

Hi everyone sorry been MIA for the last week or so due to tiredness/sickness etc and it's taken me a couple of days to catch up on posts!

So sorry to hear of your news shanks take care of yourself x

A bit late in the day but sorry to hear of what you've been through too ThePFJ can't imagine how you're feeling - stay strong x

Congrats to those of you who have had good scan results smile

Booking in done last week, had to have repeat bloods yesterday because they weren't labelled correctly hmm and have first scan a week tomorrow which I'm soooo nervous about sad

11+1 today (seems to have gone so slowly but crept up so fast IYSWIM)

AliOh Tue 22-Oct-13 18:38:10

Oh and welcome to any new Maybies I've missed!

AliOh Tue 22-Oct-13 18:41:21

Moomin just thought I'd share my experience, I've had 3 hamsters, one was lovely, the other two (one of them we have currently) were/are very vicious despite being handled a lot. They smell despite being cleaned at least once of not twice a week and if you're planning on keeping them in the same room where you sleep they WILL keep you all night!

Ali I've just read somewhere that pregnant women should not come into contact with rodents, pets or otherwise, because there's a very very small chance they carry some kind of disease... but they don't say how very very small the chance is sad looks like it'll be fish sad

Magpie78 Tue 22-Oct-13 18:50:10

Hello everyone!
Had midwife appt today and she has moved my EDD to 3/06.......does this mean I will be expelled!!! grin
My notes are yellow and she has given them to me to fill in with OH before my next appt 12/11.
Still don't feel anymore pregnant, am just so anxious something is going to go wrong, plus we have so much to do with the house. Think I am just going to worry now for the next 4 weeks sad

FrightFlea Tue 22-Oct-13 18:58:32

So sorry about your very sad news Shanks

Welcome Sarah

I had my booking in today and scan too. MW thinks I'm a week further along than I guessed so 10+5 instead of 9+5. Baby was waving to us all and bouncing around. I'd be happy if I'm further along, that bit closer to the end of ms. The 12 week scan in the hospital will date me properly as their machines are better than my MW's antiquated one. No photos either.

Loved yours Impatiently great photos and thanks for sharing.

DD1 who is 3.8 was with me and loved seeing the baby on the tv.

thistle lots of sympathy for having kidney stones. I had them just after dd2 was born and I blame the pregnancy for them. The pain is unreal and a thousand times worse than labour. Hope they pass quickly for you.

BananaHammocks Tue 22-Oct-13 19:27:06

Hi Sarah I also got married at the end of June and am 10+4 today!

I had my booking in appointment on Friday! It was a home visit which was good because it made me give the house a thorough clean! I've got to get the higher dose of folic acid because of my weight but she said as everything was straight forward I can give birth in a pool in the midwife led unit if I want! Yay!

How long after your booking in appointments did you find out your scan date? I want to know when it will be!!!

Hezbean Tue 22-Oct-13 19:54:21

Shanks - so sorry for your news, that's just awful. I hope you are doing OK. big hugs....

Thistle - OUCH! Hope you are ok, that sounds very painful.

Impatiently - amazing photos, so clear! Great news about all the scans in the last couple of days too, and that a few people are beginning to see the light at the end of the MS tunnel!

I'm feeling OK, a bit nauseous if I'm hungry, but not too bad. I'm feeling really stressed and tired and grumpy and fed up today. Anyone else feeling a bit blue? I'm sure it will pass but poor old DH is getting the brunt of my moods bless him. Doesn't help that I'm still sleeping really badly. I'm waking up several times for the loo which is really annoying, only a couple of hours after I go to bed, despite going about 3 times before I go to sleep!!!

SarahChez Tue 22-Oct-13 19:55:44

Moomin I have a hamster and he's awesome. He's called Hagrid ^^
I have had nasty ones before though... and I kept dropping a baby one we got because he was too wriggly blush

dobedobedo Tue 22-Oct-13 19:55:54

Welcome Sarah!

Banana, I had to call the ultrasound dept to make my own scan appointment for when I was 12 weeks. One week to go! (incidentally the midwife now reckons I'll be 14 weeks by then, I guess we'll see!)

I'm in bed now. I just can't stay awake any longer! Today has been a crap day, sickness wise. I just want it to stop already. Shouldn't it have stopped by now? Ugh sorry for whinging.
Have a good night everyone! brew

Welcome Sarah smile Hagrid is a great name. I'm worried about some kind of disease they say hamsters have that can be dangerous to pregnant women... is the risk high enough to not get a hamster? I'd be getting him from Pets At Home.

thistlelicker Tue 22-Oct-13 20:28:13

I have my nuchal scan tomorrow !! X

Magpie78 Tue 22-Oct-13 20:42:03

Hi moomin found this seems it should be fine.
What will you call them?

Thanks magpie smile will follow that advice. They will be in bedroom for most of the day, but then I am out for most of the day. At night once we've finished playing, they'll probably go in the bathroom. Seen that quite a few people do that - stops the noise being too bad in the bedroom etc.

Not sure yet smile they're going to be dwarf hamsters hopefully smile

bushprincess Tue 22-Oct-13 21:06:13

Welcome Sarah!
Great scan news Nanny, flea and anyone else I've missed!!

Thistle, ouch ! Hope they can break them down so you don't have too much pain passing them. How awful for you.

Moomin, master should be fine, just wash your hands after handling him!

Scan tomorrow. Hope i get some decent sleep tonight.... it's been so ridiculously hot... not helping me stay awake in the day or sleep at night!

Night all!

Cupcake1985 Tue 22-Oct-13 21:19:34

moomin I have a long haired syrian hamster called Tarquin whose very docile. Russian ones are small and fast so no chilling on the settee like we can do! To be honest he is over 1 and won't be replaced when he goes. Love him to bits but we get him out every other night as he looks bored (in his massive multi climbing frame cage!) and it's a bit of a tie especially when you have a baby I think. The last thing i'll want to do with limited sleep is give attention to my pet for an hour. But I will because I can't ignore him it's cruel. Personally I wouldn't buy one at this time I'd just give all my attention to the baby.

Magpie78 Tue 22-Oct-13 21:35:20

Moomin how about Itsy and Bitsy! Lol

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 22:15:19

Moomin I had a Russin Dwarf Hamster she was the sweetness little thing, lived years beyond what they are supposed too and was a great character. She was also a master escape artist and bloody faster than a greyhound!
I've found that unless a hamster is handled regularly everyday they can become frightened of being handled and therefore aggressive.
They take a lot more effort to care for than most people realise but they can at least be left for a few days if your away unlike a dog or cat.

Hazebean I was getting a bit blue at one point due to lack of sleep. For me it's usually hormone related that causes sleeping problems, once the placenta kicks Around 12 week I feel much better. The last few days I've been managing 7 hour stretches compared to only 2-3 hours.

I think I may leave it. I'm worried that being out for the amount of time I'm out for, and lots of toing and froing back home - combined with the time a baby is going to take up - I won't be able to give it the love and attention it deserves. I love animals and I'd feel awful if that was to happen.
Thanks for the advice guys smile

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 22:28:17

moomin I think that's a wise decision. A lot of pregant woman end OU getting pets during pregancy in a misplaced need to nurture then feel terribly guilty when they don't sent give the same care and devoting to it.

LittleBairn Tue 22-Oct-13 22:30:17

Wow that was a very badly written post by me, damn iPad.
It meant to read :
moomin I think that's a wise decision. A lot of pregant woman end up getting pets during pregancy in a misplaced need to nurture then feel terribly guilty when they aren't able to give the same care and devotion to it.

Minions Tue 22-Oct-13 22:31:04

Sorry shanks to hear your sad news.

I'm 13 weeks today and ms is definitely getting better, tends to be whole good or bad days. I might be crazy but I think it depends on what I wear! Jeans that are a hint tight now = feeling sick all day. Floaty dress = much better day with hardly feeling sick.

I'm going to avoid jeans/trousers for rest of week until I get bigger ones! Night night all

Hezbean Tue 22-Oct-13 23:00:07

Thanks LittleBairn for the reassurance! I'd better get to bed and get some shut eye hadn't I?! 10 weeks today so hopefully in a couple of weeks the sleep will return...

Night night everyone! See you tomorrow lovely ladies xxx

Good luck for tomorrow's scan Bush and Thistle and anyone else having them. Hope they go well.

Xavielli Wed 23-Oct-13 06:53:58

So sorry shanks

Good luck to today's scanees. I'm starting to feel a bit excited about mine now - making me feel more positive about the whole pregnancy.

Going to take the babies to playgroup this morning and make a start on DS2's requested Tree Fu Tom birthday cake this afternoon. This must mean I'm feeling better as I couldn't even think of making plans that took me off the sofa last week. Hope everyone else starts feeling better too

hamncheese Wed 23-Oct-13 07:36:43

Sorry to hear shanks sad

littlebairn that's rubbish. Makes me glad of my indie Mw though that you've said that. I think knowing who is coming is a big deal to me, knowing that I won't get someone who doesn't know about or care for my wishes arriving when I'm in labour or reassuring. There are two indies in our area I know of, carrie macintosh in Edinburgh and Allison Ewing in Glasgow. Allison is my mw but they are both trying to work together at the moment so you would have both of them for the birth anyway. She is v supportive of home birth despite things that make hospitals want you not want to have one.

moomin our four cats have had to deal with being a little less loved since DS arrived... Poor moggers! I think you are right to wait, get pets when your little one is wanting them too!

Had my scan yesterday (again) all well, pictures not as good oddly but they changed me one day (why bother?!) either way it all ties in with the date of conception I told them but they chose to ignore! Ho hum...

I'm hoping to buy a car soon (if I can scrape the cash together)... Being less fit with pregnancy has made me realise now I don't live in town I'm getting a bit isolated. DS went to mil today for a change of scene he's so bored of being in the house all day poor man!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 08:46:55

Minions that's not coincedience! Keep with the loose/maternity clothing and you should feel better.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 11:15:11

Can someone please explain this confused

I had bookin in appt and was told I'd be midwife-led care. Today I've got a letter telling me I have a consultant antenatal appt at approximately week 13 hmm

Is this a 12 week scan ? It doesn't say that on the letter...
And if not, then what in earth is going on?!!

bluestone85 Wed 23-Oct-13 12:12:36

I'm really not sure Snoozy. But then I'm no help with it being my first pregnancy. I'm sure I forgot to ask the mw things!

Just rang and got my scan date :D 4th November... seems so long away, but I know its not smile xx

LongTailedTit Wed 23-Oct-13 12:31:02

Snoozy - I have had a letter about a consultant appt too, no info saying what it's for, just the appt time and date. I am assuming it's because i had GBStrep in my last pregnancy, no idea what else it could be. Mine's around 16wks.
If it is the GBS thing, it'll mean a home birth's off the cards and I'll go to the labour ward - which is fine!

Massively inconvenient early appointment, as I've no idea how i'll get there unless DH takes the morning off, and DS may have to miss preschool if I can't get someone to both take and collect him.

LongTailedTit Wed 23-Oct-13 12:32:34

PS meant to add, it def won't be your 12wk scan appt.
You should get a letter soon about that, mine arrived around wk9/10, it needs to be done between week 11-13.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 12:36:28

Thank you longtailed and bluestone

This is my first pregnancy so now panicking that there must have been something wrong at my booking-in appt that I don't know about confused

bluestone85 Wed 23-Oct-13 12:59:58

Snoozy, ring your hospital antenatal section and ask them to tell you your scan date. Thats what I did as our post is so unreliable.

You can always ring your midwife too, or the hospital to ask why you have consultant appointment xxx

bushprincess Wed 23-Oct-13 13:08:00

Hi All!

scan went well today (well I think so, Dr seemed to err on the side of the morose, but I'm sure thats him and nothing to do with me or bean!!)

They've pushed me forwards to 11+3 based on measurements (could just be because I come from a family of giants!!) and he did a NT measurement 1.5mm which he said was within 'his' normal limits... when quizzed more on what the set normal limits were he was pretty cagey, but I get the impression not to worry too much...

Thistle what did they say about your NT today??

Minions hope the floaty dress theory has done away with your sickness again today!! All my trousers definately a little more snug, but luckily the weather here at the moment is conducive to floaty dresses so think I'll stick with those for a while!

Snoozy hope you find out what your appointment is for, it would seem rather re-miss of the midwife if they didn't alert you to anything wrong at your booking in, so fx it's just routine for your area/something v.minor. But I'm sure you'll feel better if you can understand what the appointment is for. let us know

Will check in later for news. Hope everyone else is having a good day!

I've got to have consultant appt at some point... history of genetic disease in immediate family, abdominal adhesions and a scar from an operation make me a pregnancy minefield it seems grin

LongTailedTit Wed 23-Oct-13 13:22:53

Snoozy I have just called Obstetrics and managed to change the appt time, and while I was on the phone I asked if they knew what the appt for for - she didn't know, but agreed it was most likely to do with the GBS.

I also asked if it could be something to do with the blood tests I've had (midwife requested ones) and she said v firmly NO - I would be informed of anything found straight away, they wouldn't book me in to tell me a month later!
She said unexpected Obs Consultant appts will usually because you have a long term medical condition or the midwife has relayed concerns about a specific issue, or something arose in a previous pregnancy.

Maybe just give your midwife a call and ask her to let you know why she has referred you.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 13:48:02

Thank you bluestone and longtailed again smile I've called midwife but no answer!! So I'm going to call tomorrow

I'm relieved to hear its unlikely to be bloods related too, Thankyou longtailed

bushprincess congratulations on your scan flowers it must be a relief to have had it done

moomin there must be something in my past medical history but yet to find out what it is... I suppose it doesn't really make a difference because I'd still go to appt. would just like to know what it is

Got my consultant letter through in the post this morning.... clashes with an assessment that I can't get out of and don't want to get out of. sad this is tougher than I thought it'd be and the baby isn't even here yet!

Minions Wed 23-Oct-13 15:12:05

Congrats bushprincess smile

Hope you get through to the mw soon snoozy - frustrating that they don't always tell you about these things....

dobedobedo Wed 23-Oct-13 15:14:52

Just call up and change it moomin! He probably only wants to meet you and do his own tests anyway.

Today I had a very naughty donut from Greggs (toffee icing and custard in the middle in case you're wondering) and then I immediately puked it up.

Finally morning sickness makes itself useful! grin

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 15:24:27

minions still not getting through to midwife but called antenatal dept instead to 'clarify' and they said the appt was for BOTH my 12 wk scan and a consultant appointment confused

I'll be 13+3 then hmm

So irritating, I keep trying to be calm but not working

dobe I'm glad your ms has come to some use wink

And moomin just give them a call to change date

hamncheese Wed 23-Oct-13 16:01:06

dobe I ate two aulds toffee crispies and feel so so sick. No puking though, so I'm porky and nauseaous! Got to go do a crit for a paper at a seminar this evening too bah. sad

Called and changed date smile much easier than I expected grin thanks smile

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 16:12:50

moomin, it'll be really easy to change, just phone the number on the letter and explain the situation. They'll either put you in the week before or the week after.

And as for after the baby is born. Studying with kids is...interesting. but usually doable (says the lady who is 1.5 weeks behind and whos children just will not let her get on with studding today!) I do the OU, but if you want to keep going to uni it's completely feasible especially if there is either a creche at uni or family who are willing to help out. Don't stress, it'll all work out. Use the talk boards to discuss childcare options, the best thing I have found about MN in the 5.5 years I have been here is you can always ALWAYS find someone who has been there and done that and will give advice x

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 16:13:19

x posted with you!

moobaloo Wed 23-Oct-13 16:47:14

All these scans are very exciting grin anyone else lagging behind with me at 9+3 and only just past booking in appt?

By the way, does the letter for the scan have anything written on the outside that may give the contents away? Reason is I share a post box with my mum and she doesn't know I'm pregnant yet!! Could do without an envelope with "Ante-natal care" or similar written on outside!

and the post usually arrives whilst I'm at work so I can't even race to it first, eek

Squiffie Wed 23-Oct-13 16:55:24

I'm bleeding, no pain but definitely bleeding sad

So scared.

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 16:57:44

squiffle, dont panic (easier said than done!) Have you already had a scan? how far along are you?
Have you booked in with your midwife. Call the EPAU if you can and speak to them to get an appointment.

It may not all be over, bleeding can be normal x

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 16:59:12

moo, if t says anything it will say NHS.

dobed, you're brave posting in AIBU! Some people just dont listen x

Spirael Wed 23-Oct-13 17:02:46

Firstly, don't panic Squiffie! Sit down, relax, preferably lie on the sofa so your legs are raised.

Next, call your midwife/the hospital/EPU depending on what numbers you have. They'll be able to advise better and get it checked out if needed.

Is there much blood, and what colour/consistency is it?

No cramps is good. There are lots of reasons why there might be a bit of blood and not all of them are sinister, so try not to worry unduly!

bluestone85 Wed 23-Oct-13 17:04:51

What kind of bleeding squiffie? How far along are you? xx

Squiffie Wed 23-Oct-13 17:08:52

EPAU close at 4:30 and I don't have a direct number for midwife.

I had a scan at 7+6 and there was a heartbeat but I know people who've had that and miscarried. sad

Minions Wed 23-Oct-13 17:13:59

moomin I changed the date of my 12 week scan, it was no bother. They gave me a few options and I actually ended up going a day earlier smile. Hope your place is as helpful

Squiffie Wed 23-Oct-13 17:14:00

I'm still childminding until 6pm and its commute time so parents won't be able to get here any earlier plus nobody knows anyway.

It was watery red blood with some thick stringy mucus/clotted blood (sorry for tmi).

I'm 8+4 now I think - same as spirael

bluestone85 Wed 23-Oct-13 17:16:05

Was it just on the tissue or knickers too? Any more since? Xx

CbeebiesIsMyLife Wed 23-Oct-13 17:19:49

Squiffle, bleeding can be a sign off doing too much. So from now until 6pm you are to sit on the sofa with mindees until parents turn up, then you are to either stay on the sofa all evening or sit on your bed all evening. You are not to move until you have spoken to EPAU in the morning.

I know its scary, I bled at 8 week and was convinced it was all over. Have you put a pad on? is there enough blood for that? Try not to panic and to stay calm.

dobedobedo Wed 23-Oct-13 17:39:09

Squiffie the other girls are giving you good advice - I don't have anything more to add. Keeping everything crossed for you. It's more than likely nothing to worry about. Take it easy xxx

Squiffie Wed 23-Oct-13 17:42:17

Just on tissue. I'm out and have nothing with me so stuffed tissue in my pants, and there were a few spots when I went back to the loo. Dh is working away tonight so think I'll watch telly in bed when the kids are in bed.

Squiffie childminding is strenuous especially when we are constantly lifting the kids in and out of buggies or just for cuddles, playing aeroplanes etc. You really need to take it easy, ive definitely tried to reduce strain on myself as I have big toddlers to look after!
As dobe said the other ladies are giving great advice. Please rest up as soon as your home and mindees have left.

bluestone85 Wed 23-Oct-13 17:50:03

If it was mainly just on tissue try not to worry. I had the and kind of thing a couple of weeks ago. Just happened 2 mornings. Although I haven't had a scan I'm being optimistic and the gp and midwife didn't seem to think it was anything to worry about. So take it easy and give epau a ring in the morning and see what they think xx

Spirael Wed 23-Oct-13 18:05:35

Squiffie I had a tiny bit of blood on a tissue yesterday. I worked out that I'd be due a period about now if I wasn't pregnant, so it could have been a tiny trace of my body trying to follow normal pattern by mistake. Since you're at the same point as me, it could be similar for you?

Agree also with the others that it could easily be that you've just done a bit too much lifting and carrying, and caused a minor internal bleed. Alternatively, is there any chance it could have come from further back? Because of the increased blood flow, you could have irritated a bowel and get a bit of blood that way. Or, the ever delightful piles could be starting to appear.

Get a pad in when you have access to one and then make sure you rest with your legs up this evening. Hopefully there'll be no more or very little blood. If there is a bit more, or you're still concerned in the morning, then phone the EPU first thing.

The fact that you had a HB last week is good, I think a HB and expected measurements at 7 weeks is a 97% chance that all will continue fine. So there are pretty good odds that it's all going to be ok.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 18:16:41

squiffie thinking of you, please follow the advice on here , which is excellent, and try to take things easy tonight. If bleeding gets heavier or any pain then you should contact a health care professional.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 18:17:27

Agree with spirael odds are in your favour!

LittleBairn Wed 23-Oct-13 18:18:40

snoozy longtail sometimes you get arbitrary consultant appointments usually around 16 weeks if your BMI is considered high.
They tried to do this to me during my last pregancy I cancelled (obstrician I know personally agreed they are pointless appointments) there was little point in a lecture after I was pregant and Gestational diabetes can be tested by the midwife.

squiffy any amount of bleeding can be stressful in pregancy and always worth mentioning to midwife. I agree once you can go lie down and try rest. It's a very good sign you aren't in pain.
But it doesn't always mean bad news at 7 & 8 weeks I had massive bleeds soaking through bath towels etc. The baby was perfectly fine, I had a Placenta Hematoma that just needed to drain.

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 18:27:43

Thank you littlebairn but my bmi is 25, so could be lower but technically normal. I think you're right though, there's bound to be some arbitrary reason that was so boring it wasn't mentioned, here's hoping!

LongTailedTit Wed 23-Oct-13 18:30:57

Thanks LittleBairn tho not the case for me, normal BMI, but I did mention that my sis had GD with her first DC so it could be related to that.

She had a low BMI and no other risk factors at the time for GD, so it was all a bit odd, plus this is my second DC and I didn't have it with my first. confused

Ah well! We'll find out what it's all in aid of soon enough I guess!

On another topic, I just found out another mum on the school run is pg and a week ahead of me! She only found out she was pg a few weeks ago as she'd had a lot of bleeding around period time, so when she started feeling sick and a bit tender she thought "No way I'm pregnant"!
All ok now, and due a week before me! grin

LittleBairn Wed 23-Oct-13 18:33:07

snoozy it could even be if your under weight even just slightly. They have silly narrow margins that the want everyone to fit in.
But yes don't be suprised if its a totally random reasons.
I would be pretty cross with my midwife for not raising the issue with me seeing as would be the one referring you to consultant.

In my expereince consultants can be very difficult to get hold of, unless you know his/her private secetarys number. We still don't know the exact reason I'm being prescribed Asprin what was the different results found after the post Mortum. All this time later we still dont have a clue!

Thinking of you Squiffie, look after yourself this evening.

We went back to Pets At Home today and found a gorgeous little hamster up for adoption, a Robrovoski called Tiny. He's gorgeous and not used to being handled so he just needs a little extra TLC. OH is going to clean his cage and I'll re-stock it, so we're helping equally on that front smile he's a little bit older and a little bit quieter so he's not too crazy or demanding - and I'm such a pet lover I'll go without sleep to make sure my animals are happy anyway blush

Cupcake1985 Wed 23-Oct-13 19:27:14

That's a good compromise moomin! A rehomed slightly older hamster smile
Hope you ok squiffie x

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bushprincess Wed 23-Oct-13 19:47:03

Hope you're feeling ok squiffe thinking of you and hope that there is no cause for concern

hope Thistles scan went well today... will pop in again later and see if there's any news

Movetothesound Wed 23-Oct-13 19:58:51

squiffy Thinking of you, hope you can rest soon.

moobaloo i'm behind you, 9+5 and still haven't had my booking in, i have another two weeks to wait. All of my hospital post has been in plain envelopes.

rebeccax2 Wed 23-Oct-13 20:41:26

squiffy I bleed regularly. Just for a day, brown/red... not much but it scares me everytime.

Put your feet up and try to relax. My bleeding was caused by a harmless sub chorionic haematoma which cleared up and flares up from time to time. xx

BananaHammocks Wed 23-Oct-13 20:47:26

I've got my next appointment at 16 weeks, my midwife just said that is when we'll hear the baby's heartbeat! Don't know what else it is for.

This is a really, really stupid question but when you get a prescription can you pick it up from any pharmacy? Ran out of time to get it from the pharmacy next to the surgery but I go past a supermarket on my way to work in the morning (in another town), can I just get it there? I realise I sound like a twat I just have never had many prescriptions and always got them from the surgery's pharmacy! blush

Jealous of all the scans! moobaloo I'm lagging behind with you! 9+5 and had booking in appointment last friday, am now (im)patiently waiting for a scan date!!

Xavielli Wed 23-Oct-13 20:50:09

Yes, any pharmacy smile

AliOh Wed 23-Oct-13 21:26:08

Hope you're ok squiffie and managing to get some rest this evening.

Great news on your scan bush hopefully we will hear from thistle soon

11+2 - scan a week today!

Minions Wed 23-Oct-13 21:33:37

Hope you're ok Squiffie and have been able to rest tonight.

Sorry, my last post looked like I had ignored you (& you moomin telling you you can change the date after you already had!). I must have posted without refreshing the page first.

Hope everyone else is ok x

rebeccax2 Wed 23-Oct-13 21:34:44

I just heard the heartbeat on my doppler! Amazing. Very faint but I counted and it was 168BPM so must be right. x

Vikks Wed 23-Oct-13 21:36:48

Squiffie Thinking of you. Take it easy tonight x x

thistlelicker Wed 23-Oct-13 22:23:43

Sorry it's late ladies, but I was on a long day at work after appt!!! Baby thistle looks amazing she/he is
Pouting away on pic! Unable to get
Nuchal as baby wasn't cooperating!! Nothing to do with me being fat, oh no!!!wink Anomaly scan booked fr 17th December! Will be the best Xmas present ever!!!!

God I've been on a high all day!!

snoozysleeper Wed 23-Oct-13 23:21:35

Ah wonderful news thistle !! smile

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 05:55:33

grin great news thistle! Xxx

hamncheese Thu 24-Oct-13 06:07:03

Congrats thistle and rebecca

squiffie hoping you've had no more bleeding. Let us know how you get on today, hopefully they will confirm nothing to worry about.

moomin what's his name?

Morning sickness fading here but what do I do? Eat far too much sugar and feel sick anyway. What an idiot!

I have the health visitor coming here today which is surprising because I've not seen one since DS was 4 months old, such is the crap service you get in Glasgow. Now in Lanarkshire and it seems a better system...

His name's Tiny, hamncheese grin if we don't get him and we get the Russian dwarf instead, his name's Peanut grin because we're adopting them, they've been at the shop so long they've given them names smile They think they're females so they're better living alone anyway smile

LittleBairn Thu 24-Oct-13 09:04:40

hamncheese ahh don't say that about the health visitors I was hoping they would be non existent in this region! Might need to move to Glasgow...

squiffy hope the bleeding has stopped and you get seen quickly by EPU.

rebeccax2 Thu 24-Oct-13 11:14:26

Hey squiffie thinking of you! Hope things are better today.

My morning sickness seems to be fading a little now as well but mostly I'm excited because I've got more energy again!!!! I'm 10+2.

hamncheese Thu 24-Oct-13 11:22:37

Still waiting on her arriving... I'm surprised to have heard from one let alone her coming by. In Glasgow they are absolutly dire. when i saw one it was just to lecture me on weaning. DS (15mo) still hasn't had his mmr because of them messing up!

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 11:28:17

I'm probably jinxing myself here but last night I didn't feel too sick and today I'm not as sick as I have been either. Is this the end of the sickness? Oh I hope so! smile

randdom Thu 24-Oct-13 12:16:43

9 weeks today! I finally have an olive :p

bluestone85 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:27:55

Congrats dobe, fingers crossed it sticks smile xx

Woo random little olive! I still don't know officially how far along I am... I'm guessing at 9 weeks. BUt from LMP I'm 11 weeks today grin Can't wait for dating scan. A week on monday!!! Eep smile xx

rebeccax2 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:32:00

Wahoo random an olive!

dobe I also thing the MS may be easing. Fingers crossed.

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 12:50:38

Yay Random! According to my lmp I'm 17 weeks. According to early scan I'm 11.5 weeks but according to midwife and the fundus thing I'm 14 weeks.

Scan on Tuesday so hopefully then I'll know what fruit I am! grin

bluestone85 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:56:05

Hahaha, how random is that! Hopefully they will getting it right at the scan :D Though imagine if you were actually 17 weeks, that would be amazing! Hehehehe :D

bluestone85 Thu 24-Oct-13 12:56:47

I'm either an olive, a prune or a lime grin

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 13:05:07

Squiffie - hope you're doing ok today. Please keep us posted.

Thistle - exciting news about the scan!

Dobe - fingers crossed the worst has passed :-)

Rebecca I'm so tempted to get a Doppler now....!

2 weeks today til my scan - getting a bit impatient now. Still feeling a bit hormonal and grumpy - just hope it passes!!

Spirael Thu 24-Oct-13 13:11:25

Hope everything is ok with you today, Squiffie!

I'm nearly an olive, here. Think I'm still at the raspberry stage for another couple of days. I was laying on my back earlier though and I think I can feel my womb now. I'm sure that's earlier than last time... Guessing it's because I have no stomach muscles left and it's finding it easier to stretch this time around!

Feeling quite nauseated here today. Being at home rather than work is helping, but one of my damn cats has decided to wee or spray in the hall and I can't find exactly where or get the smell out! I've tried fabreze, washing liquid, white vinegar, bicarb of soda, steam cleaning, etc... And it still reeks! God damn cat!!

Currently freezing my ass off with all the windows open trying to cope with the stench until DH gets home from work and we can get to the store to buy more cleaning products. Bleagh!

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 13:37:53

Hi ladies, thanks for all the supportive words it means a lot. Fingers crossed everything seems to be ok. Not spoken to epau as its either engaged or they don't answer but not too worried atm.
Went to bed at 8:30 last night, supposed to be working tonight but think I'm going to phone in sick as should be an 8-12 shift sad
I got some anti sickness meds from the docs yesterday; I only took one then I got the blood so now daren't take them, sticking with the sickness and hoping it eases soon.

Spirael Thu 24-Oct-13 13:47:03

Squiffie does your doctors surgery offer telephone appointments? You could mention your concerns and about the medication, and if wanted ask to be signed off work.

The nurse practitioner I saw the other day told me that they were much happier signing pregnant women off for a few weeks to better cope with MS than to give drugs for it.

Smelly cats aside, I've found my MS has eased back to manageable levels since I've been able to get a good 12 hours of sleep per night and rest whenever it started to flare up.

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 13:51:00

They do yes, tonight would be my last shift this week so might hang fire for now but good suggestion to bear in mind, thanks. X

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 13:52:00

My smelly cat pooped on the floor whilst we were out angry

Spirael Thu 24-Oct-13 13:58:31

Moomin likes animals, would she like some free cats? grin wink

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 14:04:46

Ah, now there's a thought mooooomiiin, where are you? wink

bluestone85 Thu 24-Oct-13 14:06:19

Hahahahahaha! Moomin probably would grin.

squiffie has there been any major changes (apart from the obvious) to cause her to be stressed? This might be why she's doing it?

rebeccax2 Thu 24-Oct-13 14:13:51

Ohh glad things have settled squiffie - it's certainly scary. I can't wait till we're all in the 2nd trimester and the scares ease off a bit!

Rushyswife Thu 24-Oct-13 14:49:37

Hi all!

I have been a bit of a lurker since I joined the board to add my stats, sorry I did last pregnancy too. I hate the first trimester and refuse to acknowledge I am pregnant till the first scan! Anyway I had my scan today and they moved me forward from 14th May to the 9th so I am now officially 11+6
Still got morning sickness but hoping it is going to get better soon. I have been SO tired and running about after DS is tough but cannot wait for 2nd trimester energy boost!

kally195 Thu 24-Oct-13 14:56:30

Hello - could I join you please? We're not telling anyone until after the 12 week scan, so it would be lovely to have some people who understand to talk to!

I'm currently ten weeks along with number 1, due 18th May. Scan on the 4th November - looking forward to it and petrified at the same time!

It's all been a bit of a rollercoaster so far. We were trying, but just assumed it would take much longer (DH is smugly referring to himself as "one shot, one kill"). We've just moved back to the UK after the best part of a decade overseas, and I was the most stressed I've ever been when we must of conceived. Found out a couple of weeks after we got back, and all of a sudden my complete inability to cope made sense...

I'm now trying to get my head around being back, new job with lovely 12 hour shifts, OU degree, feeling insanely tired and nauseous and a DH who is disappointed that I'm not more enthusiastic about everything that needs doing to our undecorated, unfurnished house.

Sorry - needed to unload that. I'm normally more cheerful....

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 15:04:03

Welcome newbie and lurker! smile

By all means get stuck in. The more the merrier! wine (non alcoholic of course)

bluestone85 Thu 24-Oct-13 15:04:54

Welcome Rushy and Kally smile

Rushy, congratulations on the scan smile xx

Kally, Rant away, thats what we're here for :D Days always get on top of people, but then you have your good days too smile I have my scan on the 4th too smile xx

CbeebiesIsMyLife Thu 24-Oct-13 15:31:42

Kally welcome. How far into the degree are you and what are you studying? I'm on my 1st year of ou. It's all rather unexpected!

And hi lurker too (I wish I could remember your name sad

Welcome Rushy and Kally

Don't try and offload cats on me shock I'm not a cat person at all. Dogs, hamsters, gerbils, rats, rabbits, guinea pigs, fish, birds (OH's family has 23 owls and birds of prey in their garden), degus, chinchillas... anything except cats grin

Exhausted after rehearsals today but it was quite funny, every time the warm-up/rehearsal involved anything strenuous, everyone kept checking I was okay and asking if I was sure I wanted to do it... will probably get annoying after a while, but one of my close friends is making me giggle, she keeps quoting the film "Juno" at me and making jokes grin

LittleBairn Thu 24-Oct-13 15:45:46

rushy we have the same due date. I hate the 1st tri too is just drags.

kally My DH loves it when I'm sick because it makes it feel so real to him. hmm its easy for them to be all excited when they don't feel like crap 24/7.
Remind him that you won't really be able to help decorate all that much, heavy lifting isn't advised nor is painting.

I remember being furious a few times during my first pregnacy that I had to go through hell during the pregnacy yet once a baby is born the father has equal right in law. It seems so unfair. grin

thistlelicker Thu 24-Oct-13 16:19:11

When does second trimester officially begin!??

Rushyswife Thu 24-Oct-13 16:25:36

At the end of week 13 I think

kally195 Thu 24-Oct-13 16:27:15

Thanks for the welcome xx

Cbeebies - I'm on my fifth module of a history degree. I am currently posting on here instead of finishing the assignment which is due today.... What are you doing?

Littlebairn - he is very good at looking after me (he wouldn't let me move a single one of the 90 boxes of our possessions that arrived last week); it's more he wants me to get on with buying stuff and making decisions about paint colours and it's all just a bit overwhelming. I'm not really sure how to explain that choosing the 'wrong' dish drainer currently feels like an end-of-the-world situation!

Rushyswife Thu 24-Oct-13 16:27:27

Thanks for all the welcomes guys! Nice to be properly on the thread now!

Yep second trimester starts in week 14.

Welcome back Rushy, glad that you are feeling more confident after your scan. And hello and welcome Kally.

Yep second trimester starts in week 14.

Welcome back Rushy, glad that you are feeling more confident after your scan. And hello and welcome Kally.

CbeebiesIsMyLife Thu 24-Oct-13 16:36:51

I'm doing psychology, I finished my first assignment 2 weeks early but haven't actually done much since. I'm due on the 14th May which is exactly 2 weeks before te final assignment! I'm really hoping baby makes an early appearience, preferably just before assingnment 6 is due and I can get it all done and in and not have wasted my first year [nervous]

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 16:48:20

Hi new and lurking peeps!

moomin I can't believe you're making me keep the cat hmm lol

Can't remember who asked but she pooped on the floor because I forgot to let her out prior to going to the doctors and then they were late for my appointment which I should have know because it happens every time

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 16:50:32

I feel like I've made progress today as I've only felt sick but actually managed to eat without being sick <touches wood>

I think mumsnet need a green sick face smiley!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Thu 24-Oct-13 16:52:49

They have thlenvy it's close enough for me!

Squiffie Thu 24-Oct-13 16:58:52

Well I kept thinking about using that but was a bit hmm about it!

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 17:35:46

Squiffy I think my sickness is starting to go too! I was a tiny bit sick this afternoon, but the all day nausea seems to have gone!! grin grin grin I've just had pockets of it throughout the day.

And yesterday I got in the car at the end of the work day and for the first time in about 6 weeks, I didn't freak dh out with my dry heaving! Whoop!

TBH I was petrified it would never go away!

AliOh Thu 24-Oct-13 17:45:46

Hello and welcome rushy and kally

Day 3 of no sickness here smile yay!! Hoping it's actually gone this time hmm

My sickness seems to have well and truly gone away grin yay!

OH couldn't resist grin we went out and bought the stuff... and on the way out OH said he didn't want to wait, so we adopted Tiny there and then!

thistlelicker Thu 24-Oct-13 18:15:52

I can't believe how far we have all come!! Sorry I don't know how to upload my scan pic to share with u

AliOh Thu 24-Oct-13 18:55:06

I know thistle seems like we've all been waiting forever to get this far! Now I'm nearly 12 weeks I'm wondering where the time has gone! I bet it all moves pretty quickly from here too - will be Xmas before we know it smile

snoozysleeper Thu 24-Oct-13 19:19:13

Welcome rush and kally smile

I'm only 9+3 , feels like ages away to me!! It's probably because my scan is the best part of 4 weeks away yet

snoozy dont worry im only 10 weeks today so im slacking behind with you. Haven't got my scan till 15th of November.

Yay moomin hope your new addition settles in well.

Hello newbies!!!! smile

Xavielli Thu 24-Oct-13 19:35:26

Had a rubbish day here sad DS2 lost his balance on the buggy board and pulled his elbow so we spent 5hrs in A&E and they still aren't sure it's back in. Poor little chap.

I've not felt poorly though, despite not eating anything since 10am. And scan tomorrow to look forward to.

Rushyswife Thu 24-Oct-13 19:47:26

Sorry to hear that (xavielli) must have been a horrid day! Hope scan tomorrow cheers you up!

Have people decided whether they will find put the gender, when the time comes yet?

randdom Thu 24-Oct-13 19:49:21

I am feeling miserable today. I am tired, I can't stop being sick. I haven't even had my booking visit yet (is tuesday) let alone got a date for a scan. It just seems never ending. My husband is being lovely but i can tell it is really getting to him how miserable I am. I just never thought it would be like this.

Flixy102 Thu 24-Oct-13 19:54:37

Posting on my phone so can't see how to reply to etc but thanks to everyone who needs them. (I am a rubbish maybie!)

Felt very uncomfortable earlier, felt a bit bloated and painful, was very aware of belly etc and was very worried about what it could be.

It was wind blush

Also just went to iron and got my GHDs out instead of the iron!

dobedobedo Thu 24-Oct-13 20:14:44

Today is my Friday! grin day off tomorrow, yay!

Had some sharp stabbing pains in my stomach earlier. Really freaked me out until I realised they were much too high to be baby related. Probably just wind! blush

Rushy I'm definitely going to fine out. I can't wait. I have booked a scan for 3 weeks Saturday when I'll be 16 weeks.

To everyone 9-10 weeks, I felt that weeks 10 and 11 were no way near as long as the ones before it. I'm sure years passed whilst I was waiting to get from 4-10 weeks pregnant, then time suddenly seemed to go much faster.

Rushy I'll be finding out. I'm really excited grin I don't go for the whole pink/blue thing for girls/boys so a little girl will be wearing clothes with dinosaurs on regardless (I'm big on dinosaurs), but I like being able to plan. Plus, all being well, the 20 week scan will be a couple of weeks before Christmas smile lovely Christmas present.

We'll be keeping it a secret in RL, but I won't be able to keep it a secret from everyone, so you all may end up finding out before family do grin

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:01:33

We can't decide whether to find out or not. In some ways I really want to know, but I think the whole speculation thing could be really fun! I keep changing my mind and so does DH.

I thought that I spotted a boy nub on my scan, and I posted my scan pics onto a gender guessing website and 9 of the 11 responses said they think boy too, the other responses said they couldn't tell. So I think I'm definitely having a boy.

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:06:04

Do any of you have a preference for a boy or girl? I mean, I'm sure everyone will just be happy to have a healthy baby, but for example my dh I think would love a boy if he could choose. We have agreed on boys names but not girls so far!

Hezbean my dp wanted a boy and both times we've got girls. He absolutely dotes on them and although he says it'd be nice to have a boy he says he loves his girls. I however am desperate to get a boy!

thistlelicker Thu 24-Oct-13 21:13:40

My twenty week scan is 17the dec, a week before Xmas !!!! Then I go away for my birthday on New Year's Day ! So will be abroad at 22 weeks and come back 24 weeks a lot of people think I'm stupid but it was booked well before pregnancy

LittleBairn Thu 24-Oct-13 21:14:43

My DH would love a girl. I've always seen myself as the mother of loads of boys plus nannying I always found boys easier. Plus I'm not sure I could cope with a pink princess type.

I miss my boy and the future snatched away from us but at the same time I wouldn't want them muddled up in my head.

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:15:40

mumof2 ah bless. Are you going to find out?

I know he'd dote on a girl too but I think it's something about carrying on the surname. His is quite rare and I don't think there's anyone else who will carry it on.

He is also joking about putting a baby girl in a spurs football kit. Well I hope he's joking!!!

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:18:00

littlebairn I know what you mean about the princess thing. I hate pink!

LittleBairn Thu 24-Oct-13 21:18:58

xavielli awe your poor DS hope his elbow isn't too sore. I've heard of that happening a few times on buggy boards due to kids loosing their footing but not letting go.

moomin I'm the same in regards to baby clothes I hate the whole pink/blue thing I've got a whole closet full of lovely bright baby clothes.

hezbean yes we will find out. I like to be prepared.
I dont have particularly girly girls thankfully. Dd2's best friend is a boy so she's pretty rough and tumble type. She has all the dressing up stuff but always opts for supergirl costume.

You saying about a spurs kit, my 9 yr old dd1 does girls football at school. You never know what they'll be into!

Hezbean Thu 24-Oct-13 21:59:56

That's great - it's nothing against girls playing football more that I don't want DH parading the baby round like a football mascot! :-)

I'd love a girl but I'm not fussed as long as he or she is healthy. Everyone I've spoken to reckons a girl though grin

It's all decided by this point (13 weeks) isn't it?

I'm not too worried about the girly girl thing; my mom was a football referee for years, I played football as a little girl and still love the occasional kickabout and watching matches, and my younger sister has been playing since she was nine. She's 12 and plays in the league for the boys' team grin she's academy standard, it's just a case of trying to find one she can travel to every week. She could easily go professional -and that isn't just biased big sister viewpoint smile

Vikks Thu 24-Oct-13 22:33:27

Hello Maybies!

Welcome Rushy & Kally nice to ‘meet’ you.

Rushy I’m another one who will definitely be finding out the sex. I think it’s really exciting knowing! With my DS we were calling him by name before he was born, went shopping mad and got loads of personalised things. Loved it! Plus I really want to tell the grandparents on Christmas Day.

Hazbean Part of me would like a girl this time as I have a boy and I've always thought one of each would be nice. Saying that I’m getting boy vibes….DP thinks it is too. I don’t know where that comes from, we just do. I think I might be more temped to have a third if it is a boy…....(that will probably end in a football team)! hmm

Xavielli Hope your DS is ok.

Thistle I can’t believe you've got your 20 week scan date, very jealous. I’m 11 weeks tomorrow and no 12 week scan date yet? Thank God my fertility clinic are just handing scans out whenever I want. Got another tomorrow, hoping for some lovely clear pictures.

Can’t remember who said that they were having consultant led care, but I am too and I have no idea why. I've no medical problems, no weight problem and my first pregnancy was all normal. DS was 42 weeks, could that be it? So much information was going in at the booking in appointment, I just didn't question it.

Anyway, Lime tomorrow! Scan in the morning and then I’m Facebooking it. I've got 36 friends and family members at the house for DS 3rd birthday party on Saturday and I’m crap at lying (plus I’m looking a bit too rounded now for eagle eyed Aunties), I’m coming out!

<Waves> to everyone else x x

thistlelicker Thu 24-Oct-13 22:41:22

I'm consultant led care for diabetes and bmi

Rushyswife Thu 24-Oct-13 22:54:31

Hiyaoh looks like lots of us are finding out! It was nice having a suprise last time but I think knowing will help me bond with the baby more. I can't decide if I'd like a girl so I have one of each or another boy because DS is so amazing! Think I will be happy either way (thankfully!)

Wow we must be so pregnant! There is a July bus already!

AliOh Fri 25-Oct-13 01:00:33

We're hoping to ask the sonographer to write the gender in an envelope for us and then we'll open it at the end of march (DPs birthday). That's my compromise as I don't want to find out and DP does! I do kind of want to know (still a bit undecided) but feel like 20 weeks is too early, how long we will able to go without opening the envelope though I don't know! grin

dobedobedo Fri 25-Oct-13 05:19:29

Ali that's a lovely idea! I might get them to do the same for us so we can open it on Christmas day. Thanks for the inspiration! smile

I honestly don't mind whether we have a boy or girl. One isn't better than the other to us. Ds is a joy, and not your typical football playing, car liking boy. He loves music, drama, "stylish clothes" the only thing he asked for last Christmas was a baby doll lol. I have an inkling it's a girl though, just from how sick I've been. If it is, I don't think we'll tell anyone. I can't bear the thought of mountains of baby pink crap all over the place! blush

Hello everyone. Just popping on to say hi. I had my 12 week scan this week which was great and found out the gender too! A little boy! The quest to find a name begins - we'd only really thought about girls' names up to then! confused Hope everyone is feeling well and the ms is dying down.

dobedobedo Fri 25-Oct-13 07:29:55

Hi yikes great news on the scan! How did you find out the gender already?! Jealous grin

AliOh Fri 25-Oct-13 07:59:24

Wow yikes congrats and you've found out the gender already! We've only decided on boys names so far.

Know what you mean dobe we are under strict instructions from MIL not to buy ANYTHING on pain of death!! So I'm tempted not to tell her the gender when we find out - she's very 'blingy' (if that's a word?!) and I'd rather have neutral stuff for the baby. If all goes well I'll be 33 weeks before we find out the gender, hopefully we will have everything by then anyway smile

Think I'm day four with no sickness!! Getting mild headaches every now and then, nothing major though smile


hamncheese Fri 25-Oct-13 08:04:05

Um moomin are you actually me? I am obsessed with dinosaurs. DS had so many dino clothes I was going to post a pic but I realised I don't have any online... But here he is in his cutesy whale jumper which will be rocked by a little girl if I do have one for sure! LITTLE BABY CUTESNESS TO GET YOU ALL AWWW

I would love a girl, as I have a boy already. Obviously the just a healthy one thing def applies but I won't lie, I would be a little disappointed if I didn't have a girl as I won't be having anymore after this one. However, brothers would be very nice. We find out on 18th dec hopefully... An early Christmas present!

Is anyone planning on finding out the sex but not telling anyone? We are... Just my mum because she's a nosy one.

I'm 13 weeks today so I have a peach now right? Bring on the second trimester!!!

thistlelicker Fri 25-Oct-13 08:05:40

Wow! They told U the sex? Didn't think they could yet, !!!

hamncheese Fri 25-Oct-13 08:06:11

Oh yea ali I've been having headaches too. This happened last time if I remember correctly, the ms faded only to be replaced by horrible skin and headaches... I'm wondering if this is the result of increasing progesterone...

dobedobedo Fri 25-Oct-13 08:16:13

Hamncheese we might not tell anyone the sex, purely to avoid a load of pink stuff! Whether we can keep our gobs shut for that long is another thing!

hamncheese Fri 25-Oct-13 08:34:04

Oh god yes dobe if its a girl I'm putting out a pink embargo. Buy it and it goes back to the shop. I was with mil and SIL the other day saying how if we had a girl it would be in DS clothes mostly which I am happy with. And mil said "ohhh I loooove pink" and SIL chimed in "ooh yes, CANDY PINK" <shudder>

My GP surgery offers routine appointments a week in advance, or emergency appointments on the day. I'm just trying to figure out if I've done the right thing or wasted their time in asking for an emergency one, because I feel bad already sad

When I was at the hospital a couple of weeks ago, they said there was a bit of infection in my wee and gave me antibiotics for three days. I took them, symptoms didn't clear up much but I wrote it off. Past few days I've been struggling with wee; as soon as I realise I need the toilet it starts hurting, the pain started where I assume my bladder is, but I'm also getting twinges in my back near my waist. Also I'm struggling to start weeing (sorry for TMI). I had a kidney infection a couple of years ago that left me in hospital for a couple of days and the symptoms are fairly similar, so I'm worried especially with the added factor of pregnancy this time.

I'm also feeling sick despite morning sickness having gone, generally ill and run down, and I've got a slight fever. It got a lot worse overnight, the pain woke me up. Am I wrong to have called for an urgent appointment?

Squiffie Fri 25-Oct-13 08:41:12

I want a 'surprise' this time as already have one of each but dh wants to find out. With our first we found out but pretended not to know and didn't tell a soul! With our second we knew but only told family.

I don't mind whether we get a boy or a girl but I know dh would love another boy; he says he only wants one little princess! She really is a princess as well!

Squiffie Fri 25-Oct-13 08:45:19

No, you've done the right thing! You can't leave an infection a week! X x

Hezbean Fri 25-Oct-13 08:59:04

Definitely the right thing moomin! You don't want it to get worse.
Hope you feel better x

Yikes - how can they tell the sex already? That's amazing.

Don't ever question yourself about booking a doctors appointment moomin. You have to look after yourself and unborn baby.

Am I the only one on here refusing to have the flu jab?

Yes Moomin you definitely did the right thing getting an urgent appointment. You can't be expected to be in that level of pain/uncomfortableness for a week!!

Hamncheese your little boy is gorgeous. How old is he now? Loved his outfit. I've said to DH we are to casually tell people now that we don't like bright baby clothes, I don't want masses of blue stuff just as I don't want masses of pink if it's a girl. Irrelevant of what it is I want nice neutral and pastel colours. He thought I was being harsh but I already mentioned it to his mum and she was fine about it.

Yikes I can't believe you know the gender. I'm 90% sure that I know I'm having a boy following my and the forums nub spotting, but their bits look so similar at this stage. Was it you NHS sonographer who told you it was a boy?

I didnt have it last time when carrying dd2 when the swine flu was in full force. I didn't get ill. I can't convince myself to do it.

Squiffie Fri 25-Oct-13 09:19:08

I'm not having it either mumof2

moomin do you drink much water? Its really important that you do especially as pregnancy progresses. I know its a pain in the ass with having to get up during night to pee but our kidneys will be doing overtime trying to filter everything we and our babies produce. Please dont take that as me telling you what to do cake

wm3010 Fri 25-Oct-13 09:20:47

Morning all - moomin, you are definitely doing the right thing, best to get checked out particularly as you have had a previous infection which went to your kidneys. I've only had that once and it wasn't as bad as yours but I don't ever want to repeat it if I can avoid it!

12+1 today and feeling marginally better. Crossing fingers ms is on its way out although that might be wishful thinking.

Scan on Monday, I am excited but also scared. Hope everything is ok.

I can picture myself with a girl more easily although I'm sure if it's a boy I will be delighted too. We will definitely find out if we can as like to be prepared although going to try to avoid gendered clothes as much as possible. My mum always says she likes little babies to be dressed in white/cream which I guess is traditional from when you couldn't know in advance and it does also avoid the pink/blue explosion!

LittleBairn Fri 25-Oct-13 09:37:38

moomin yes you did the right thing you really need to see the Dr. I agree ith drinking plenty I knw it's painful to wee but it will help.

We won't be finding out the Gender, it's something DH is very against and one of the few things he's ever asked of me during pregnacy so I'm agreeing too it.

mumof2 I won't be having the Flu either. It was rushed out too quickly for pregnant woman IMO without proper research I'm not planning on being a test case. I can understand why people would of they had compromised health but not for ordinary healthy people.

wm3010 Fri 25-Oct-13 10:06:53

I'm having the flu jab, the potential complications of flu seem like too big a risk to take - with my dh being in the medical sphere I am much more aware of that sort of thing. Although I've never had flu myself my dh had it once and I wouldn't wish it on anyone but the really worrying thing is potential complications such as pneumonia which often sees normal healthy people in intensive care never mind pregnant ladies! They have been using the flu jab for a long time worldwide on pregnant women with no serious side effects so I'll be getting mine tomorrow. It's quite a personal thing though.

bluestone85 Fri 25-Oct-13 10:15:15

Moomin, you definitely did the right thing, you definitely can't wait a week to see a doctor!

Is anyone else who hasn't had a scan feeling like they may have made up there being a baby in there? I feel like this every now and again and that when I go for a scan there isn't going to be anything in there. I think it doesn't help that I haven't had that many symptoms (apart from spots, tiredness and occassional nausea).

Sorry, just on a downer today probably due to me feeling exhausted.

wm3010 Fri 25-Oct-13 10:17:43

bluestone Yes I have had plenty tiredness and nausea but still have a slight fear they are just going to tell me the mini-bump is down to eating too much over the last 8 weeks when I get my scan! Sorry to hear you're feeling down, that feeling itself is probably a symptom you know. cake Hope you feel better soon

LittleBairn im in the same thought process as you I dont have any health complications either and (touch wood) seldom get ill. Im not going to give my 3 year old the fluenz vaccine either and dp supports my decisions.

Bluestone I felt exactly the same way before my first scan. Genuinely a bit scared I'd made it all up. Had 3 scans now though so that feeling has gone away.

Thanks everyone. Went to the doctors, confirmed an infection and blood in my wee so on better antibiotics now. Worth going smile also booked my 16 week appointment with midwife smile

hamncheese Fri 25-Oct-13 10:55:52

Thanks impatiently he's almost 15 months now, can't believe that little baby is the same boy you know! I know what you mean about the clothes, it feels mean to say to nice people giving gifts that you want or don't want x y z, but is it more rude to just return it all? Who knows. Hopefully the gifts will be fewer now its number two, we got sooooo much for DS I felt so bad about all these things for free!

I didn't get the flu jab with DS and I'm not this time. Don't know why really. Considering I've already had the flu whilst in the throes of morning sickness there seems little point now!

bluestone85 Fri 25-Oct-13 10:57:05

Thanks wm and impatiently - glad to know I'm not alone in this feeling smile Have to wait just over a week for scan, to show that I'm not crazy! Just had cake, so feeling slightly better smile xx

bluestone85 Fri 25-Oct-13 11:00:48

I had my flu jab last weekend.

Will be finding out the sex too. I have a feeling its a boy, but I'm happy whatever we have, so long as they are healthy. I'm the same, I'm not a very pink person, so if I do have a girl, they will not be covered head to toe in pink! xx

NannyPlumForPM Fri 25-Oct-13 11:21:30

Phew! Just got to the end of all your chatter - 6 pages shock

dobedo impatiently had it right, consultant wants to know the sex because I've got a dodgy X chromosome - if it's a boy it'll have a 50/50 chance of surviving, which is still good odds smile

Have decided against doing a CVS or Amnio - spoke to midwife and the chance of miscarriage due to the test is 2/100 and 1/100 respectively and then I wouldn't know what to do with the information anyhow! Obviously if its a boy with the condition he'll miscarry anyway but if it's a girl then she'll either be fine or have the mild condiiton (like DD) or be severely neurologically damaged hmm What will be will be!

I'm definitely finding out the sex though wink And I am a little blush but I live in a house full of baby pink, bright pink, sparkles and glitter and a massive tub of blue lego, cars/garage and dinosaurs

I actually don't care which flavour mine is - a little girl would make a pair of sisters and a little boy would be one of each so either is nice! I could really do with FX for a healthy one though. That's enough of a surprise at 40 weeks for me grin

Hows Tiny moomin ? and waves and hugs to everyone I've missed V jealous yikes that you know gender already envy

snoozysleeper Fri 25-Oct-13 11:27:59

moomin I'm glad you're on better antibiotics, hopefully you start feeling better soon smile

I've had my flu jab and pleased I did. I appreciate this is a personal decision. However, for anyone undecided I recommend discussing this with your gp/health care professional as they can give you the facts and reference the research that is being used.

Wow Nanny, you seem to have a brilliant outlook on things. What will be will be, makes so much sense but didn't stop me from occasionally acting unhinged with anxiousness pre-scans, so I really admire your outlook.

Everything crossed for you that you have the healthiest of babies in May next year.

Haha to your houseful of pink sparkly things. Despite my protestations I wouldn't be surprised if I end up changing my mind completely and have a houseful of pink or blue things before this baby arrives. Especially for when the baby starts going out, I can imagine a hairless girl in neutral clothes will be mistaken for a boy fairly often by chatty strangers.

Spirael Fri 25-Oct-13 11:46:43

Morning all! Ugh, nausea is ramping up here. But then I'm 9 weeks tomorrow so it's hopefully reaching the peak around now and will start to fade again soon. Still feel like crying with relief that I don't have to drag myself to work and pretend all is fine, but can instead crash on the sofa with a bucket!!

I'm not planning on having more children after this one, but despite having a DD already I genuinely don't mind whether it's a boy or a girl. smile A boy would be nice and balance things out, as well as match in nicely as both DH and I have one sibling of the other gender. On the other hand, having two girls is supposed to be the most harmonious family unit and no girl has ever had a sister on my side of the family for three generations, so there'll be a lot of novelty there.

Not at all a pink fan here either and only allow limited amounts of it into the house. DD however professes to like pink and sparkles (gah) but is still at an age where I can manipulate what she wears. She also likes her Thomas the Tank Engine PJs, after all! And she's equally as happy doing Octonauts jigsaws or playing with Brio as she is playing with her doll.

She requested a cat costume for Halloween, which is fine by me and much better than a princess or similar!

We're going to have a gender scan, mostly so we can manage DD's expectations as I anticipate people will be asking her "Would you prefer a brother or a sister?" like she has some kind of choice in the matter. If we've primed her beforehand which one she's getting, then there are likely to be less tantrums if she doesn't get what she wants!

Currently trying to decide whether to have the gender scan at 16 weeks, right before Christmas, or wait until after Christmas. They're still pretty certain at 16 weeks, especially with a private 4D scan, right?

Glad you got everything sorted out, Moomin! I always think the emergency appointments at doctors surgeries are badly named... If I had an emergency, I'd be going to A&E, not ringing my doctors surgery!

LittleBairn Fri 25-Oct-13 11:52:34

mumof2 I agree on the kids flu jab it's insane especially when they have already admitted it doesn't really benefit the kids (very few healthy kids ever get the flu!) but society as a whole. That isn't worth compromising my own child's health.

I would also say while it's worth talking to health professionals they are biased. Read independant research in particular the American research.

I've had really server flu before but I'm willing to take the risk and the responsbilty for it.

Nanny I will keep my FX for you. I'm impressed with your attitude I could do with some of that, I have an 85% chance of having this baby survive I get upset at my missing 15% but I really should be more greatful.

imaptiently my sister was completely bald until the age of 3 even dressed in pink my mum says she was always mistaken for a boy. grin

LittleBairn Fri 25-Oct-13 11:58:14

spireal I'm not sure how accurate it would be at 16 weeks, I k ow some super high tech scans scan see ovaries quite early on.
But sex organ wise it can be hard to tell. My DS was delivered at 16 weeks even thought he had clear male anatomy we still had to wait for DNA testing to confirm because at that stage the sex organs look quite alike.

I agree I so frustrating when people question children on what they want, talk about setting them up for disappointment.

Spirael Fri 25-Oct-13 12:02:01

I'm getting my flu jab tomorrow. DD had the nasal flu vac several weeks ago and DH is having the flu jab via is work next week. So we'll all be vaccinated here!

I completely respect everyone's right to make their own decision regarding vaccinations. In our case, we're all luckily very healthy and unlikely to be harmed by the vac, but we live in a small town with a large retired population.

When not off sick, I travel on public transport and DD is at nursery, so prime ground for picking up flu from someone. Last thing I'd want to do is then pass that on to one of the old dears. They'll be someones grandma or grandad, after all.

Also, the advantage of me having the vac tomorrow is that DD can come with me and watch me having the injection and not batting an eye. I have no fear of needles, usually I'm a blood donor. wink

She's got her preschool boosters coming up in the next month or two, and hopefully seeing me utterly unbothered by having a needle stuck in my arm will help her to not fear injections!

AliOh Fri 25-Oct-13 12:05:42

hamncheese your DS is a beaut! I'd take the headaches over ms anyday tbh I suffer with them quite alot anyway so tend to just grin and bear it!

moomin you definately did the right thing! You need to look after yourself smile

CbeebiesIsMyLife Fri 25-Oct-13 12:05:43

Moomin I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it and I'm not trying to scare oh in any way but uti's in pregnant women are very serious. If left untreated or unresolved they can cause miscarriage and later on prem labour.
You've done exactly the right thing. It's actually part of the reason dd2's labour kicked off at 31 weeks. I personally after going through that would say it's absolutely an emergency

LittleBairn, so sorry for your loss, that sounds heartbreaking.

Spireal we are having a gender scan at 16 weeks. Booked for exactly 16 weeks by my dates, and I'll be 16+3 based on my scan. Booked with babybond whose website says they have a 99% success rate (but that could be marketing spiel). My only experience is my sister who had a gender scan at the same place I am going at 16 weeks and they were right with her.

wm3010 Fri 25-Oct-13 12:32:21

moomin glad you got treated and hopefully will be recovered very soon now you've got the proper medication.

Thanks everyone smile

Nanny Tiny is settling in well smile I think she's a girl so I'm referring to her as "she". She's so cute! (and she really is tiny!)

Hopefully these antbiotics will start to work now smile

I'm so hormonal and jealous today, but part of me isn't sure if I am being paranoid or not. I was tempted to start an AIBU thread but I'd get torn to shreds on there, I know it's probably just down to hormones etc but I'm so jealous of OH's new friend. I don't understand why - in the nicest possible way, she doesn't look like a supermodel or anything, but OH is devoting so much of his time to her.

He texts her all the time and often ignores me for the sake of texting her. It seems like whenever I'm around he's got his head stuck in his phone, texting her, and he'll be vague and moody with me. Today I managed lectures for an hour but had to head back home, OH had stuck around on campus to wait for me and I had to call him three times before he'd answer - turned out he'd stuck his phone on silent, despite knowing I'd be calling at about half ten, so that he could speak to this girl without being disturbed.

She's constantly talking to him about her failing relationship and how everyone assumes her boyfriend is a nice person but how he likes to get things his own way, how my OH is the only one she feels able to talk to about it etc - she has other female friends on the course, but seems to cling to my OH like nobody's business.

Next week OH is on reading week, and she's invited him round to hers, an hour's journey away, for the day. I can guarantee that if I was invited to a male friend's house, he'd be wary about it and constantly plaguing me with questions, but I'm expected to go along with this. He seems to attract friends who need him to make themselves feel better - he's a lovely guy with self-esteem issues, and he's constantly complimenting people. He has a habit of calling other girls "pretty", which gets on my nerves, but he insists it's just a friendly way of making them feel better about themselves.

He's made it perfectly clear that he misses being intimate with me, and yet he's the one who refuses to have sex because he's scared he'll hurt the baby hmm I explained that I wasn't up to it for much of the first trimester, and that I'd rather avoid it during the first few weeks just to negate any possible risk. He was fine with that, but keeps making these comments, and if his friend is so open about her relationship, I've no doubt he is too. I've seen her a couple of times and she doesn't seem to like me very much, and doesn't seem to like seeing me with him.

Sorry this has turned into an essay, should probably have started a thread or something but I just need to vent and I need someone to either slap me and tell me I'm being ridiculous and protective, or to hold my hand and say that they'd be a little bit jealous too sad

moomin I am massively possessive of my oh. Admittedly he looks like channing tatum (not just my opinion) and hes 6ft 2 with big muscles.

I completely understand where your coming from and dont blame you for not posting in aibu. You need to talk to him. If he respects you he'll come up with a compromise. You can't ask him not to me mates with her, although I admittedly would. I'd probably give my oh an ultimatum. But my way is definitely not the way to deal with it.

Btw being intimate doesnt just mean sex. You can do other things that are just as intimate.

NannyPlumForPM Fri 25-Oct-13 12:47:03

Oh dear moomin ... I mean personally I'd wager some sort of war, completely attack OH for even THINKING about speaking to another woman, maybe a physical attack on said woman and if not then definitely some slanderous talk. wink (not actually the physical attacking type btw)

But I actually wouldn't be very impressed if DP did this - but our standards are pretty much no male/female friends (I know I know, prehistoric).

And I think you are not being unfair - but also be aware that if you are normally very laid back then it could be your hormones making you protective. Quietly speak with DP saying that he seems to be neglecting you in favour of his new friend and make sure he remembers which side his bread is buttered on grin

Ty for all your kind words everyone but really i am quite chilled about it - I think it helps that DD was the 'worst case scenario' and she's absolutely fine! Bar having one working eye and a couple of spiky teeth hehe

NannyPlumForPM Fri 25-Oct-13 12:49:06

And if my DP was going around calling other girls pretty and inviting them for 'reading week' i'd go absofuckinglutely mental actually sound like a nutter

snoozysleeper Fri 25-Oct-13 12:51:32

moomin have you spoken to him about the way it makes you feel? Maybe when he realises then he will reduce the amount of contact going on.

He certainly should not be prioritising texting/speaking with another girl (or any friend regardless of gender) above supporting you! Especially given that you're pregnant with his child!

CbeebiesIsMyLife Fri 25-Oct-13 12:51:37

Moomin I actually don't think your being jealous. I think his behaviour is completely off here. Can you talk to him about it, ask how he would feel if it. Were the other way around.

AliOh Fri 25-Oct-13 12:53:48

I haven't really thought about getting the flu jab - no one has mentioned it to me as yet.

bluestone I am wondering if I will get to my scan next week and tell me I've made the whole thing up! Still cant quite believe it!

Xavielli Fri 25-Oct-13 13:15:37

Scan went well, lovely wriggly peach. Was accosted for my flu jab and enrolled in a Bp and urine study. All good fun

bluestone85 Fri 25-Oct-13 13:32:54

Moomin I think you are right to feel like this. He shouldn't be prioritising speaking to her (or anyone else) over you at all. I think you need to tell him how its making you feel. And so what if you haven't had sex since you've found out, if he's got the problem with it too, why is he moaning? My husband and I haven't since I found out and won't be until after the scan "just in case" and he understands. He will come and snuggle me on the sofa for a bit just so we have "us" time, which is lovely smile So definitely sit him down and tell him how you're feeling, as calm as you can (I know its difficult with our hormones running around).

Ali It is crazy isn't it. I think, because it happened quite fast for us, is another reason I think its fake. Its like the pregnancy tests (lots of them) are saying I'm pregnant becuase my body was wanting a baby so much that its produced the hCG to fool the tests. Hahaha, silly isn't it?? Well I just hope we both have a beautiful little bean and can show the picture to prove that we aren't crazy!

bluestone85 Fri 25-Oct-13 13:35:50

Congrats Xavielli on scan smile Great news smile

Hooray for the scan Xavielli.

LittleBairn Fri 25-Oct-13 13:56:25

impatiently thank you it was (and sometimes still is) a painful time In our lives. I'm a Christain so I know our separation isn't forever.

moomin no wonder you feel that way his behaviour is inappropriate. In the evenings he should be focusing on you not catching up with this woman.
I say that as someone who isnt a jealous person at all, DH and I are very indepenant of one a other but I still would not be pleased with that sort of relationship especially if it were a new one.

I would also make it clear that under no circumstance may he turn off his phone or be uncontactable. Pregancy can be an unpredictable time its his duty as your partner and the babies father always to be avalible.
Consider it his first parental responsibility.

bluestone lol I was exactly the same during my first pregancy convinced it was a phantom pregancy because I was so desperate for a baby.
DH didn't help by claiming he wouldn't accept I was pregant until I missed another period just to be sure even thought I had done about 10 tests.
This time he wouldn't believe it unless I used the really expensive tests. hmm

ham your DS is adorable.

Squiffie Fri 25-Oct-13 13:57:04

Congrats on the scan Xavielli x x

dobedobedo Fri 25-Oct-13 14:00:30

Congratulations on the scan xvalli!

Moomin, you're not being unreasonable. I'd go nuts. He has to put you first and if he's not up to anything, he should not be behaving in a way which would make you or any reasonable person feel insecure. And you're feeling insecure and you're being very reasonable imo.