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October 2013: no pushing in from the back of the bus, please

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MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 12:01:49

Stats sheet here

[[ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0AidVHHwJSwC3dDU2VzFhWWt1ckg4dW84WkdCNzhOaFE&f=true&noheader=true&gid=1 New arrivals here]]

SC - still cooking (pre EDD)
SFW - still f***ing waiting (post EDD)
OWT - on way to theatre (CS)
IP - induction in progress
SWIL - somewhere in labour
LIT - lost in transition

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 12:02:45


births here

ananikifo Tue 08-Oct-13 12:41:05

Thanks for the thread, MrsHN!

I'll be going to bf group at the children's centre now. I told the mw on Monday how down I've been and how I'm trying to get out of the house more and she encouraged me to come even though I don't have a baby yet. I does say "expectant parents welcome" on the timetable but but I'm afraid it's gonna be awkward. Wish me luck!

Hope it is useful and people are friendly Ana. smile

xuntitledx Tue 08-Oct-13 13:14:07

loving the name of the new thread!

Pinkforboys Tue 08-Oct-13 13:17:38

Checking in... and loving the name too.

Is anyone else on the Vente Privee email list? They've got a Vertbaudet sale today with some really slashed down prices here You might have to sign up to see it though.

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 08-Oct-13 13:23:22

Checking in at 39+2, my last full day being pregnant! Csection tomorrow... I'm a bit terrified to be honest. Sorry if this counts as pushing in as I'm a 13ther!

Hope you are all well smile

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 13:26:38

thanks for the new thread MrsH and good title! (although I'm hoping to jump the queue hehehe....) now you can go and have your baby grin

hope you enjoy your class ana!

my choux pastry is now in the oven... it looked OK (I think confused) but my attempt at producing my own piping bag was truly pathetic... so ended up spooning it on the tray... who knows what shape they are going to be. They looked a mess. I can't wait... I need to get a life... or a baby?

Smitten1981 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:29:13

Afternoon everyone. Just checking in. 37+6 SC!

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 13:29:54

by the way, not sure how many of you remember my work saga and all the stress I had a few months ago... so... my inadequate and emotionally immature manager has just got sacked... following the feedback from our team ie. 7 of us... wow... I'm slightly shocked... justice in this world??

Flyer747 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:34:11

I certainly WON'T be jumping any queue. My fat ass is firmly fixed on the back row with the rebels after my mw app.

39+2 she did me a sweep, found it fine didn't hurt no probs there. Cervix still prosterior and long and thick confused

She could feel babies head though and my notes say 4/5 so does that mean 4/5 engaged or only 1/5 engaged, it confuses me so if anyone can shed light please do.

Shire glad to hear you are going home.

Pink good news monitoring all ok.

Clapham post a pic of your profiteroles on fb so we can all drool over them.

Pinkforboys Tue 08-Oct-13 13:35:34

What is it with all of you due on the 13th?! Enjoy today Heffa

Orange (was it you?) not my last monitoring, I'm booked in for next week too. The Doc said I could ask for a sweep- but I"m not sure who he meant nor when confused Would that be the ladies in the Maternity Day Unit? And next week (I'll be 39+4)??
I'm not booked in to see anyone else before Induction Day so I guess that's my only chance.

MoN You must be a very well-loved Mum for your DCs to miss you so. I hope you get to balance your time successfully- and as others say, without missing out yourself.

I'm off to meet CAMHS woman now to find out how to help DS get over his occasional self-destructive behaviour, and adjust to being a big bro. If I get any useful info from her I'll be sure to share it with you all.
Just got to get out of this chair and put my shoes on [heave...]

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 13:36:19

clapham I am a fellow Friday night dinner fan, funny stuff!

flowers to all those feeling down and SFW

Enjoy taking your baby home shire

Sympathies to all those struggling with breast feeding xx

flyer I can't remember which airline u work for but I'm almost certain I have never flown with them as the only good I've ever seen on a aeroplane looks and smells like vomit unless its a tub of Pringles off the trolley lol

I feel like crap today keep getting the shakes despite eating plenty and I'm drinking lucozade go keep my sugar levels up

MoN sorry your still struggling I hope u manage to find a resolution that suits all of your family x

pseudogood to hear your little ones heart problem isn't causing any issues I hope ds enjoys meeting his baby sister this afternoon x

No idea what else I've read so apologies to everyone

SC @ 39+1 and feeling quite upset as I've now had two sweeps cervix closed on both of them and really thought I would have had the baby by now which I no might sound rediculous as I'm technically not due also someone at the baby/toddler group I go to said 'I bet (friend) has her baby first u no just u wait and see' I felt like stabbing her in the eye balls as the girl in question is a week behind me :'( some ppl r so insensitive
And with regards to the school run I get asked by the pre school teachers oooo how long left now I wish I could simply say 'one day less than yesterday' without sounding rude!

Haylebop12 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:37:14

Checking in...

After a pretty rough night I've just had a lovely two hours and Isaac is just waking to be fed... Again. If this guy hasn't put weight on I'll eat my hat! Had a wobble about bf last night as I was truly exhausted and told myself I was going out to buy formula this morning but alas I was to tired to go shop and all is well in the world again. He still won't keep his latch without a shield but I figured its protecting me from sore cracked nips anyway. Bf lady visiting tomorrow as well as HV and neonatal team. Kinda want everyone to buggar off now and leave me to it!

orange in a way I'm glad dh is back at work. As awful as it sounds I'm just not used to having him around quite so much and he's a lazy sod who's just complained all week how tired and I'll he is. I feel like I can get on with it now iyswim?

Where's nat?

Good luck tomorrow heff!

Haylebop12 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:37:34

Haha there you are nat!

Flyer747 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:45:53

Oh god this gets more depressing I've just googled it and it says 4/5 means only 1/5 of the head in engaged in my pelvis.

I'm going to walk to the end of the earth later on the have a shag fest romantic night whatever will be a quickie, needs must in the hope it does something!

Hayle it sounds like you are getting on fine on your own.

Sorry to hear things aren't more progressed flyer. My midwife records as the number of 5ths the head is in, but others write how much is still palpable so you would have to ask your midwife how she does it.

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 13:50:32

Wow Clapham that's fairly direct feedback! And your choux pastry should be fine if not piped I think. The experiment will be tasty at least!

Heff medical necessity is of course a permitted exception to the ban on queue jumping smile

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 13:51:50

good to see you back smitten!

by the way, we haven't heard from soupqueen for ages now... soupqueen are you there...?? Or MrsO?

flyer I'm selfishly pleased you are not leaving me at the back on the bus... our rebel ranks are decreasing every day...

hayle glad all is better with BFing today. It is hard... no question about it

nat don't worry your time will come!

choux pastry looks good!!! where do I buy piping bags? just in any supermarket? I seem to be unable to make one myself...

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 13:52:30

I'm here hayle clinging on for dear life. I feel like ringing my midwife and bullying her into bringing my induction forward to next week instead of the 21st. I literally feel like I can't physically cope with another 24 hours of pregnancy never mind another 13 days! (Induction is oct 21st)

Good to hear u and Isaac are doing so well :-) how is Amelia now he's had a full week home? Xx

PseudoBadger Tue 08-Oct-13 13:53:51

Hayle - if Isaac keeps slipping off latch has anyone checked him for a posterior tongue tie? DS had one undiagnosed - and it really does make things so much harder. Having fed dd a few times now the difference so far is amazing.

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 13:54:21

ps. still need the bloody piping bag for the cream MrsH... unexpected obstacle today!!

and enjoy your last day heffa! smile

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 08-Oct-13 13:54:43

flyer don't fret about the engaged bit, sometimes they don't engage until labour starts.
Ds is poorly so my day off is being spent lugging him about on my hip and administering calpol <sigh>

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 13:57:38

Clapham you might be able to get one in a supermarket but certainly Lakeland will have them. If all else fails you can sometimes snip the corner of a flat freezer bag, but that's not so easy with something stiff like choux pastry cos the bag might split.

Hayle whatever gets you through - and fingers crossed for weight gain. I'm kidding myself that going into labour will solve all my problems aren't I? I'm just going to swap one set of worries for another, much bigger set grin

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 14:01:46

corner of a plastic bag... genius mrsH... I only need it for cream now so should work!

shooting hope your DS is better soon. Must be tough looking after a sick toddler when so heavily pregnant...

and pink yes, please share any wisdom after your school meeting. Also very much needed here...

pinkbuttons Tue 08-Oct-13 14:01:53

Checking in and love the title mrsH heres hoping my baby is born on this thread! if it lasts 10 daysnit wont have a choice anyway.

yum to all bakers, am now making lemon drizzle cake.

Glad monitoring all ok pink

nat sorry to hear your struggling today. im having one of those days too and may cry at my appt on Thursday if midwife wont even do a sweep.

Haylebop12 Tue 08-Oct-13 14:03:38

pseudo thanks for that info... Bf lady is coming tomorrow so will definitely ask. Or it might just be a case of teaching him to latch without as I've only tried maybe 7-8 times in two weeks.

nat she's doing better. Sticking to her routine and bedtimes has been key. Still besotted with him, surprised he's got any cheeks left!

pinkbuttons Tue 08-Oct-13 14:08:29

also just watching midwives from last night and would like to slap that lady being so rude to the midwives that are trying to help her baby!

AnythingNotEverything Tue 08-Oct-13 14:09:55

Just checking in ... Nothing exciting to say, but SC @ 38+6 here.

Manically glossing banisters and skirting boards as we're having a new wooden floor and stair carpet fitted from tomorrow. I'm hoping all the time on my hands and knees will get this baby moving!

Good luck to Heff for tomorrow!

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 14:11:04

I have to say where regarding last nights midwives I wonder where the hospital would stand if the baby died, are they actually able to take the decision away from her and just do a c section or would they have to leave her and let the worst happen if she really never did back down ??

Wow Clapham glad they took all your feedback seriously. Hope you don't feel guilty, sounds like he was completely incompetent.

I buy plastic disposable piping bags from the supermarket which come on a roll. They are much thicker and shaped than ordinary freezer bags but that would be worth a shot. I find them much easier than the cloth one that came with my piping nozzles as you don't have to wash it up and dry it out.

roofio87 Tue 08-Oct-13 14:28:47

checking in - SHB here (I'm trying out a new abbreviation, its Still Had Baby....... not sure where he would have gone though! wink )
all good here, in true scouse baby style we've had trips out so far to Asda and home and bargain!! just wanted to make sure we both get outside every day. also went to register him at gps today!!
hope everyone sc is doing well, sounds like sweeps are being done lots which is good, I was still completely unfavourable at 39+6 so couldn't even have one!!

Just finished knitting a little hat for the baby. Much quicker than a blanket, just took last night and after lunch this afternoon. I think I will stick to little projects, might look up a mitten pattern to match now. Any other novice knitters I found this pattern good because lots of others I looked at needed double ended or round needles which I don't have and it only uses simple stitches. knitting pattern

xuntitledx Tue 08-Oct-13 14:42:56

clapham - my favourite piping bags are from Lakeland and they're marketed as non-slip I think. They're huge and very robust!

Think I might also make some choux buns this week as you've planted a seed...!

Off to midwife shortly, going to ask for another sweep so will see what happens.

notsoold Tue 08-Oct-13 14:47:47

Sc at 37+4 here!!!
Loving the new thread!!

Batch cooking for family and soups for me when out of hospital.

I don't know who asked but my mum is not italian, my dad is so she learned simple Italian cooking. ..

And dyeing my hair because I am fed up of my greys and certainly of not being able to have the Brazilian blow dry during pg. Half my hair is straight and the roots ( the whole 9 months of it) is really curly. And I miss my toenails and hamds looking lovely with colour, because mw said that no nail varnish from now on....

apperleydapperley Tue 08-Oct-13 15:12:54

ooh a new thread already! just marking really.

I was wondering that too Nat about midwives last night and at what point they would have been able to overrule the mother for her and her baby's own good... felt very sorry for the midwives trying to help her.

clapham yum - profiteroles, i may just have to make some go and buy some now you've mentioned them! The m & s profiterole stack would go down well right about now grin

Hopefully having a sweep too at mw appoint tomorrow, although i'm not convinced baby is anywhere near ready, it seems to have moved upwards and relieved the pelvic pressure i've had for the last three months confused - someone tell it that's the wrong direction!

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 15:16:49

Nat from what I have gathered from my colleagues who do clinical negligence law, ultimately they have to get her consent for procedures (including a c section, even a crash one) so they would have had to have respected her wishes.

In practice, I suspect what they would probably have done was to get a couple of doctors in to explain the risks (one to explain, one to witness) and get her to confirm that she didn't want intervention. The hospital would (I think) have had to go to court to take action if she didn't consent and I'm afraid its likely that her baby would have died or been seriously injured by the time that happened - it's difficult to get even an emergency court order in less than about 3 hours. There are judges "on call" as it were, but its a question of the hospital's lawyers getting to one in time.

If she was unable to consent (eg because she had passed out) her next of kin would be able to consent for her and then it's their decision. I couldn't tell from the programme who the bloke was - her partner or an adult son? He wasn't exactly trying to reason with her but I'm not sure I'd have wanted to either in his shoes!

I had to turn it off because it was making me too cross - I guess the baby was ok in the end, since they showed her on telly?

textbook Tue 08-Oct-13 15:28:10

Checking in - cheers MrsHN for the new thread grin

Good luck Heffa for tomorrow, fx it all goes smoothly for you x

MoN you've had some excellent advice already on this and the last thread. It must be such a horrendous juggling act for you, and you must remember to look after yourself as well as your family thanks

Clapham I'm also a massive Friday Night Dinner fan - the constantly topless dad is my absolute favourite, and 'shit on it' has definitely entered our household vocabulary grin

Thea is now 2 weeks old (where the hell did the time go?!?) and is now 7lb 7oz, so had regained weight plus 2oz. So pleased, but finding bf very hard atm - it's not that it's difficult, as she feeds brilliantly, but it's the feeling of being totally tied to the bloody bf chair, and not able to share the night feeds with dp. I finally got to sleep at 1am last night, then was up again from 2am until almost 5am, then back up at 7:30am confused I'm totally fucking exhausted to be honest, and having dp snoring in bed the whole time I'm up isn't helping at all, and I'm starting to feel really resentful. Rubbish. Hope everyone else is finding things a bit easier xx

Flyer747 Tue 08-Oct-13 15:29:18

Get you MrsH a font of knowledge. I too suspected it was down to her regarding consent.

Roofio I love a bit of home bargains, you can't beat it. grin

Good luck to those hoping for sweeps or positive news on babies impending arrivals.

thanks textbook, sounds like you are doing brilliantly for her to have regained her birth weight. Wow two weeks already?! I hope it gets easier soon as her tummy grows and she can take more at once so it is a bit quicker/more time between feeds.

apperleydapperley Tue 08-Oct-13 15:40:33

Thanks for explaining that MrsHN guess that makes sense, thank goodness she consented in time (yes the baby was fine)

textbook can't believe there are babies 2+ weeks old from the thread shock, i guess it goes quickly once they're born - sorry you're finding it tough.

I've just updated the spreadsheet as best i can with births. Just checking - no news from oddlife or warlin?

Flyer747 Tue 08-Oct-13 15:50:03

Textbook thanks you are doing a brilliant job by the sounds of things. X

xuntitledx Tue 08-Oct-13 15:55:41

Back from midwife, no sweep due to unsuccessful one on Friday so she didn't see any point in doing it sad

Follow up appointment booked for Friday when they'll give me another sweep and also an induction date for next week (in case sweep not successful).

Mixed feelings really, still very disappointed at the no-show but also pleased that at least by the end of next week, we'll have a baby.

SHIT ON IT!! (Another Friday Night Dinner fan here and that phrase has well and truly been adopted in this household!)

Smitten1981 Tue 08-Oct-13 15:59:26

Thanks Clapham, haven't been posting much as I haven't got much to say lately apart from moaning how achey my ribs are, but no one wants to hear that - ha ha.

Settling into maternity leave though, I've resigned myself to just gestating for the next few weeks and to stop feeling guilty about not having a routine.

I wish my inept manager would get the sack, he's so awful. Still, won't have to worry about that for much longer grin

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 16:12:59

Friday Night Dinner a big hit in those house too.

Flyer you have no idea the amount of useless information at my fingertips. Useful information? Not so much grin

Apperley I think Warlin has had her baby, a little boy I think, but I'm getting confused on FB with RL names and MN names...

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 16:18:35

mrsh glad its not me just getting confused with names. Sometimes I feel like I'm talking to a different set of people lol

Flyer747 Tue 08-Oct-13 16:20:25

Yeah warlin had her baby was it yesterday or Sunday?! She posted a pic on fb x

legallyblond Tue 08-Oct-13 16:22:26

Textbook - this (constant feeding, especially at night) is really normal at 2 weeks and only lasts a few days - it's a classic growth spurt time. Honestly, bf gets soooo much easier a few weeks in and if you stick with it you will be so grateful (no need to get sterilised bottles, so easy when out and about..).

Re the woman on midwives, don't forget Mrs HN, they could have got a psychiatrist in to declare lack of capacity and then made the decision for her. Capacity is unfortunately something I have to think about all the time at work wink. Tbh though, I doubt she would have lacked capacity....

legallyblond Tue 08-Oct-13 16:23:53

And I need to rejoin Facebook, but I looked at DH's page and its totally changed in three years... confused

claphammama Tue 08-Oct-13 16:37:08

Shit on it untiitled... but hope "a lovely bit of squirrel" will make you feel better tonight grin

textbook, as legally says, the worst should be behind you now! don't give up x

orange no, I don't feel bad about my manager to be honest... it was based on confidential feedback from 7 different people who reported to him and it had to be very bad for them to at on it so quickly and so strongly. My company is very tough like this - there is nowhere to hide when you don't do a good job... and he really was a terrible and very selfish manager...

smitten fear not... your hands will be very full soon!

Good Clapham.

I somehow have a stitch on my right side. Have done zero exercise so don't feel I deserve it!

Smitten sorry about the achey ribs. I am completely signed up to your philosophy that all I have to focus on now is gestating!

Made some cupcakes for DH to take to work yesterday. They went down well apparently. hopefully will sweeten new boss up to letting DH take lots of time off to be with me and new baby grin

Sanjifair Tue 08-Oct-13 16:45:17

clapham sounds like your manager got what he deserved. Good for your company for listening to the team and responding swiftly and directly to the feedback. In most organisations I suspect he probably would have been promoted rather than fired!

Flyer I am jealous of your 1/5 engaged. My check at 38+5 showed not engaged at all!!

Mnippy Tue 08-Oct-13 17:04:23

Checking in , thanks MrsHN for the thread.

KarmaBiatch Tue 08-Oct-13 17:06:24

checking in - SC at 38+1 after an unsuccessful and uncomfortable sweep yesterday.

I still need to join the FB group, who would be best for me to send my RL name and description to? smile

Karma I can have a go at adding you. Pm me.

KarmaBiatch Tue 08-Oct-13 17:13:55

Thanks Orange, PM sent smile

Pinkforboys Tue 08-Oct-13 17:27:08

Evening All,
I'm afraid no insight to share as my hormone befuddled brain got the days muddled up. I'll hopefully have something useful to contribute tomorrow... blush

Having a 'lovely' evening trying to get DS to do some thank you cards almost 2 months after his b'day. Not the easiest of tasks, even when we've reduced it down to a mere 'Thank you for my X, Love Ash' How hard is that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Clapham must be good to hear he wasn't just you who could see how useless he was.

Pseudo What did DS make of little badger?

thanks to those SFW.

Oh God, now DS is scratching his head like a cat. Time to crack out the Headrin. Oh you new Mums, what joys you have ahead of you......grin

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 17:39:35

Pink what timing! I was just about to ask for your thoughts on why I should be grateful that I'm still pregnant grin

Legally is of course quite correct about the psychiatrist. It's similar to these cases where parents don't want their children to have surgery or want to take them for some experimental treatment in America. I'm always astonished that people don't follow the medical advice, but I suppose listening to MoN say how she hasn't always been told everything or she's had to push for this, that and the other, you could see how you might become distrustful of the doctors.

Iheartcrunchiebars Tue 08-Oct-13 17:49:30

Checking in. Making shepherds pie for tea to freeze leftovers. That's about the most active I've been all day!

No instant cure for my sore back at the chiropractors sad but the good news is my pelvis area is pretty much straight, even if it is stiff and tender so that means the exit is nice and clear for baby to come out.

I forgot I made enough dinner for two days yesterday and have had a mushroom and lentil stew in the slow cooker all day so will have that tomorrow. Not sure mushrooms freeze well. My brain has really turned to mush.

Wickedgirl Tue 08-Oct-13 18:35:21

39+6 and sc. I am hooping that this baby will make its appearance tomorrow as I have never been late before and don't want to start now! I've been polite and not jumped the queue, but surely tomorrow is my turn at getting a yummy baby to cuddle?

No signs of anything happening yet though sadly

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 08-Oct-13 18:50:11

Phew! Ds in bed and I won't be far behind. Sick toddler at 38+3 is no fun whatsoever. I know he won't sleep through as well so hoping if I go to bed at 8 I'll get 4 hours decent kip before I either need a wee or he wakes up for a cuddle and some calpol!

kd83 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:02:53

All this talk of baking today is making me very hungry! Going to try my hand at homemade mincemeat for Christmas this week if baby doesn't make an appearance.

Re the question about midwives, I've heard that the baby doesn't actually have any rights until after its born so they have to respect the mothers wishes, even if they are ridiculous like that lady was being. I know she was scared but it was so dangerous for her baby!

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 19:15:09

Oh dear god. MIL on phone telling DH not to panic about the non-arrival of the baby. I'm not sure he was, to be honest grin

Then he wound her up asking whether, as it was so long ago when he was born, did they have proper anaesthetic?

Now she's asking how I can crochet hats when I don't know what sex the baby is confused. Have I missed something? Are hats only for boys or vice versa?

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 19:23:28

She could do a white bag mrsh or yellow? I think MIL's are born to be evil, my real MIL hasn't contacted dh since I was 20 weeks and all of a sudden yesterday she makes contact im sure it has nothing to do with being due a baby in 6 days the nosey cow

Shepards pie here for dinner too. Dd just in bed I said nun night darling and she replied nun night princess to me :-D children can be so sweet can't they?

wicked sending u lots of labour vibes! How early were your others?
My mum just texted me to say can u please run up and down the stairs so I replied 'no I'll still be pregnant at christmas' lol

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 19:24:02

A white bag hmm clearly I meant a white hat ....

Shirehobbit Tue 08-Oct-13 19:27:42

One of the positives of not having the planned homebirth, has meant that we have dealt with Ali meeting both sets of grandparents already and we're clear to hunker down at home, visit-free for a few days as I wanted.
And, in defense of MiLs, though mine isn't the easiest character, she is a sweet person and broke down in tears meeting her grandson today and I was really touched.

Wickedgirl Tue 08-Oct-13 19:36:59

Natalie.......my dd came on her due date, my ds1 came 9 days early and ds2 came 6 days early

I really hope this baby comes tomorrow

xuntitledx Tue 08-Oct-13 19:43:30

We did have a 'lovely bit of squirrel' for tea as went to TGI Fridays safe in the knowledge that baby isn't going to be making a show!

Back home and waiting for GBBO!

Mnippy Tue 08-Oct-13 19:46:15

Oh FFS. DH to me 'you're being really irritable, is that a sign of labour'. NO, it's a sign that you've been removing things from my bloody hospital bag to use for yourself (i.e. water bottles with sports lids). Grrrrrrr!

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 19:49:55

Mnippy that is hilarious - I love how everything gets blamed on pregnancy because, naturally, they are beyond reproach hmm grin

xuntitledx Tue 08-Oct-13 20:15:59

mnippy - mine is doing that too! I bought nutri-grain bars and sweeties for the snack bag and since then, he's taken a bar for work each day and already started tucking into the sweeties.


Livened Tue 08-Oct-13 20:25:33

My DH has also snaffled some of the boost bars from my hospital bag, and opened and nearly finished the bag of sweets... I have helped a bit with the sweets, but the boost bars were strictly hands off!

roofio87 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:27:03

can some of you mums who've done this before please just remind and reassure me that this horrible hormonal crying phase will pass. I'm on day 4 since Hunter was born and I feel rubbish. I feel so anxious and worried that something will happen to him. I can't sleep when he and dp are which is no good at all. I'm hoping its just the initial baby blues and will soon pass, I just love him so so much I don't think I know how to deal with it!

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 20:29:43

It will definately get better roofio no one warned me about baby blues in the week or so following birth and I thought I was the worst mum ever until I told my mum and she assured me its completely normal and said every day gets better xxx

cazboldy Tue 08-Oct-13 20:34:09

I have horrible back ache again tonight, don't think its a sign of anything happening though, it just seems like it's every other night, and then I manage a good nights sleep alternate nights too...... I haven't put any food or drink into my "just in case" bag, but dd1 made some lemon curd tarts and a sponge last night (so the mw's can have something yummy to eat while we all have a cuppa once baby is here) and they are nearly all gone so i will have to do some baking tomorrow if no appearance of baby before then.

cazboldy Tue 08-Oct-13 20:35:22

x posts roofio bless your heart <hugs> xxx

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 08-Oct-13 20:54:55

Bless you Roofio no experience to share but I'm sure you're doing just great. Hunter's mummy loves him and that's all that matters smile

KarmaBiatch Tue 08-Oct-13 21:15:36

it's the back of 3pm here, and had a busy few wee hours after dragging my pyjama-clad body out of bed..

I've ordered pressies to be delivered for various people's birthdays back in the UK (and some stuff for baby), cooked a couple quiche lorraine's to be frozen for when bubs arrives, and I just lost my mucous plug shock

now in a mild panic thinking of all the things that REALLY need done incase the mini human arrives in the next couple days, and most of it involves cleaning angry

oh well, off to pop the marigolds on and hope for some time-worthy contractions grin

Racheld33 Tue 08-Oct-13 21:20:20

Exciting news karma
Fingers crossed your cleaning gets done, and brings on your labour!

legallyblond Tue 08-Oct-13 21:21:21

Roofio (and everyone else) days 2/3 to 5 are terrible hormonally. I promise the vast majority of mothers I have spoken to feel an utter mess. It is the baby blues. With DD and again with the twins, I knew I loved them with every fibre of my being, but I also thought... What have I done? I can't do this. I am not able to cope with this.... Every time my Mum (and this time round, the MW I saw on day 3) warned me that I would feel like this and assured me that everyone feels like this and it passes very quickly. It isn't pnd. You will feel so so fine by the time H is a week old. I promise! X x

Racheld33 Tue 08-Oct-13 21:24:53

roofio completely agree with everyone else's advice about baby blues days 3-5. I remember it well from having DS, and am prepared (as much as possible!) for it in the next day or two. You just have to ride out the next few days, lots of cake/chocolate and as much rest as you can cake

legallyblond Tue 08-Oct-13 21:31:33

Btw, Rachel, can't remember if I congratulated you,,,, well done!!! Such s lovely name - v high on our list both times x x

MrsO27 Tue 08-Oct-13 21:33:36

Hi clapham thanks for thinking of me. I'm doing fine, SC at 37 + 6. Just been really busy as we have a 3 day trip away this weekend for a wedding and been having lots of trivial but time consuming issues the past few days (like my ballooning feet now not fitting in my lovely flat jewelled sandals I had for the wedding and trying to find suitable replacements which is near impossible as its all the winter shoes in the shops now). Also been busy meeting up with friends/family for coffee/lunch/dinner etc, which has just been a bit too much to keep up with. I have one commitment to meet a friend for lunch next week though and not making any other plans following that as my body is definitely telling me to slow down now. Will also give me more time to keep up with the thread and all these gorgeous babies being born. Anyway, as you can see, all very trivial issues! Thinking of all those who are suffering more serious issues flowers.

checking in a few days away and I miss loads!

Good job I have FB to catch up when i get the chance.
Its my Birthday tomorrow so away to finish watching crap tv and drink a few glasses of wine DH has the kids under control this is my birthday treat lol grin

Natalieand Tue 08-Oct-13 22:25:11

Lots of tightenings in my belly tonight although painless but my back is aching so bad! 39+1 (almost +2 lol) and baby is back to back so who knows.. Ill blaitantly be posting in the morning with a sulky SC post lol

Pinkforboys Tue 08-Oct-13 22:41:18

Fx for you Nat that this really is the start of something x

Interesting yoga session- got stuck on the floor lying on my back and squealed with pain when teacher tried to rock me over on to my side to get up. Shocked her, me and the rest of the class! Ironically it did seem to ease my joint for a while, but now I'm scared of going to bed and getting stuck again on my side or back!

Just caught up on GBBO...who was it found Ruby annoying? I hear ya. Mr Hollywood obviously has a soft spot for her. I like Kimberly- at least she's honest about her ambitions!

Is anyone else outraged that Mother of Baby P is being let out shock?!
Lawyers- please defend the reasoning cos I can't see it...

Fairy-sleeping dust to all of you and the little newborns xxxxx

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 02:39:22

I'm awake .... Back is agony but sadly I don't think it will progress into labour but who knows maybe it will be helping my cervix etc soften

pink... Right there with u on the baby p case....

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 03:23:26

thanks ladies, was having a bad moment but dps been up with ds until now so I've had 5 solid hours sleep so hopefully that will help and I'll get some more now!! baby was asleep all day and been awake all night, hopefully he'll get it the right way round soon!!
natalie hoping that your backache becomes something!!

JellyCurls Wed 09-Oct-13 04:29:42

Up for through the night feed so checking in. MW came out and weighed baby and he has static weight so we have bought ourselves another 24 hours. If weight up tomorrow we ok if not we have to go back to hospital, come on JellyBaby J drink .....

Just read through today's post while up expressing and making packed lunches, though not for ds after yesterday mornings meltdown.
I think he's realised now how sdressed Dp and me really are after witnessing dp breaking down in tears when they all complained about the dinner he prepared tonight as well.
I'm meeting with a clinical psychologist at the hospital tomorrow. Dp kindly told her he thought I wasn't coping very well when she done a ward round. What I had was normal post natal teariness. It's him who's really not coping. He looks shattered and keeps breaking down in tears. I think I made the right decision coming home when I did. I'm going to leave hospital early tomorrow so that he has some time alone with Eliana and I can deal with all the stressful kid stuff and dinner.

The schools here are off for a week from the 12th so might ask my sister to take kids for the day a couple of times so we can have time alone.

Iheartcrunchiebars Wed 09-Oct-13 04:47:06

I find it amazing that no one tells you about the day 3-5 baby blues. I only know because my mums friend casually mentioned it and said 'everyone gets it''. I then asked every mum I know who said 'oh yeah it's horrendous, you'll spend at least a full day non stop crying'.

I just find it a bit bonkers that the health visitor or midwife doesn't flag it up as it must be horrible it coming out of the blue.

Chin up roofio. I bet you are being a fab mum. In a few weeks this will all be a distant memory.

I've been awake since 4am as I'm insanely hungry! I can't regulate my meals at the moment, if I eat too much I can't sleep but now if I eat too little I can't sleep.

Anyone in labour or up raiding the fridge?

Haylebop12 Wed 09-Oct-13 04:56:19

Up feeding if that counts iheart? Hes let me sleep 12-4:30! Amazing!

roofio just let it out, that's what i did but felt better for it. Still have the odd moment 2 weeks on but things are looking up :-)

Good luck for a good weight gain jelly Isaac also being weighed tomorrow.

mon sorry your dp isn't coping well. It's hard enough for everyone despite your situation. You will eventually see the light at the end of the tunnel (with a few "in limbo" patches in between.

Iheartcrunchiebars Wed 09-Oct-13 05:09:56

That's great Hayle. A nice 4.5 hour stretch. The sleep thing is my biggest worry at the moment. I just done know how I will cope.

Mon sorry to hear things are very stressful. Today is another day, (if you love Anne if Green Gables you'll get that quote). It would be so much easier if we all lived near each other, then the 'back of the bus' people could come & help out the new mums and then by the time we have our babies you will be pros and could come and help us!

chickieno1 Wed 09-Oct-13 05:34:07

Ah mon that is very stressful all around . How is Eliana doing? How are you doing from a physical point of view. You must still be in pain from the op. are the painkillers working for you?
Could your dp see a psychologist or get some help? It must all seem overwhelming. Thinking of you flowers

roofio hope you feel better after your sleep xx

jelly good luck with weigh in. Going to get lo weighed and checked out tomorrow. I'd say she's jaundiced but hopefully not too bad. She lost 5% of her birthwt before we left hospital but hopefully she's put some back on.

nat hope back gets better and if not then hope it's things kicking off!!

mrsHN hope things happen for you soon. I feel your pain, dc1 was 13 days late. Thanks for the thread!

pink hope you're ok today. Yoga episode sounds scary.

Good luck tomorrow heffa. Looking forward to hearing your news.

Hope things are progressing for you karma

Sorry forgot everything else.........

Chat tomorrow xx

roxvox Wed 09-Oct-13 06:01:06

SHB here @ 5 days (I like it Roofio!)

Congratulations Warlin! So pleased my due date buddy has had her baby now. He looks gorgeous.

MoN I really feel for your DP, bless him. And the fact that he mentioned to someone that he had concerns about you is so sweet considering how he is clearly taking it very hard too. I hope Eliana makes good progress soon so you can both start to relax a bit.

Flyer at my midwife appointment last Wednesday the midwife wrote down in my notes that baby was still just 1/5 engaged, and I gave birth 2 days later! So I don't think there is an exact science to it all.

roofio I know how you feel. It took me about a day to completely fall for my little baby, and in those few hours I kept getting quite mentally stressed about the fact that I didn't have the gushing love for her yet or panicking that I couldn't cope, and I was utterly convinced it was the start of pnd, but I didn't want to talk to anyone about it because I felt so guilty for feeling it. Now I am the complete opposite (which is similar to how you are feeling I think) where I just look at her at times and it makes me cry seeing how perfect she is! Last night she started breathing a bit funny (she was having cuddles with FIL and we now think she got a bit hot), it took a matter of minutes to resolve, but the turmoil I felt in my head in that time was unbearable worrying about her and what we would do if the breathing didn't resolve etc. I said to DP that I didn't realise my heart/heads potential to love and worry about a person as much as I do now. It's like I have unlocked a new level, and to be honest it scares me a bit because I don't know what I would do if something happened to my little girly. I haven't really had a 'day of blues' (was told by friends to expect one on day 3), but I have cried at least once every day because I am so gushing with love for Ailla, and at least once a day with the stress of it all. Tiredness definitely doesn't help!

Speaking of which, Ailla was totally zonked last night after a good feed and a relatively active day where she was awake quite a lot, so we decided to try putting her in the bedside cot. She lasted all of about 10 minutes before waking up and getting herself all worked up and stressed. Popped her on my chest and she was wide-eyed but completely calm within seconds. So yet again another night where my bedside cot is being used to hold things to keep me entertained/awake, and my chest is being used as a mattress for Ailla. DH and I swap over every couple of hours (although I try to let him get the lions share of sleep because he doesn't seem to be able to cope with it as well) so so far tonight I have had 2 hours sleep. After Ailla's next feed (in about 1-2 hours I expect) I will wake DH again and he'll have some quality father-daughter time whilst I sleep smile ... We've got the midwife coming over today so I think I'll need to ask her if she has any advice for us about if all. Hoping it might just get better by itself very soon and she'll start to use the crib. I can't remember who the other mum was who has the same issue? Chickienio was if? How are you coping now/what are you doing to get through the night?

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 07:09:03

Morning all...

40+6 and SFW. Please tell me someone had a baby overnight, even if it wasn't me?

Was it someone on these threads who said that they had cried to DP with a previous baby that the doctors were going to have to cut arm ad leg holes in their tummy to let the baby grow because he or she was clearly never coming out?

Hope things progress karma and Nat.

A bad night with my pgp and back pain last night. Poor DH now sleeping very lightly and every time I manoeuvre myself over or get up and stand for a while to check I am not going to fall over before hobbling to the loo in the night he gets excited and asks if it is a contraction. Nothing yet! He is getting very tired and could still be over 3 weeks to go! At least I know I can nap in the day now.

thanks to all the new mummies and those in need of them.

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 07:29:39

Orange I get that too - "are you alright?". Well, no I'm not actually, but neither am I in labour so go back to sleep you daft bugger.

Top of my post-pregnancy hit list is being comfortable in bed and not having to plan each turn like I'm manouevering a super tanker - even if much of the time I spend in bed won't actually be spent asleep!

I suggested he speak to the psychologist too chickie but he says he finds it too hard to open up to anyone unless he's been drinking.

roxvox Eliana is making great progress. Do is just too impatient and wants her home. He doesn't understand the longer they wait to do the io the stronger she will be.

cazboldy Wed 09-Oct-13 07:52:29

Morning all SFW 39+2....... no baby here mrsHN

mon sorry things are so tough for you atm xxx thinking of you lots

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 07:56:06

No baby here mrshn

SFC (still f-in cooking) @ 39+2

Severe back ache. Absolutely starving

Nothing else to report

cazboldy Wed 09-Oct-13 08:15:36

40+2....... my brain is f**ked! grin ........

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 08:30:20

mon its tough, when I had cancer a few years ago I wanted dp to see the psychologist but he wouldn't. men don't deal with their feelings like that, even though they should. I'm sure he'll find his own (healthy) coping mechanism in time.

rox thanks for sharing that, nice to know you feel the same. I know, I never knew it was possible to love someone like this. I just feel so protective of him. did manage another 1.5 hours while he was asleep so thats improvement.

think baby might be a bit constipated, seems uncomfortable and his poos have been a bit pellety. now I just feel even worse about giving up bf, , which is stupid. will ask mw later when she visits. his cord fell off this morning so going to have a bath soon to get belly button nice and clean!! mw and heal prick later and then my mum and sis are coming over so should be a good day.

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GeorgieJo Wed 09-Oct-13 08:37:47

MrsHN - I completely agree with you about the turning! Getting harder and harder to simply roll over - can't wait to be able to sleep on my back again..

40 + 4 and trying to stay positive. For last ten days have gone to bed thinking "this could be the night!". Now struggling to believe it will ever happen!

Just really really want to avoid induction (hoping to get through most of it with hypnobirthing, feel like that will be much more difficult if if it all gets started artificially)

Roofio - thank you for your post, I hadn't heard much about baby blues, so has been really helpful to read all the responses and see all the reassurances from everyone else. Really glad you got some sleep, hope next few days go well.

Shootingstarsandcomets Wed 09-Oct-13 08:50:19

Oh yes I remember baby blues and crying for no reason a few days after ds was born. Totally totally normal.
roofio sometimes switching to formula can constipated them or maybe it's wind? Ds was such a windy baby and he was breastfed, I think ff babies can be worse. I used to bicycle his legs until he did a big trump and he was always more settled after that grin.
Terrible night here. Ds screamed from 7-8.30 even with me holding him, finally got him to sleep in our bed and then he woke at 12 rolled over and dived over the side- had to catch him by his legs before he crashed to the floor! More screaming until calpol locked in then up at 3 until 4.30 then up for the day at 6. I think he is trying to finish me off!!! Please someone tell me he won't do this when I have a newborn to look after as well!

xuntitledx Wed 09-Oct-13 09:01:54

MrsH - that was me crying to DH that they'll have to cut arm and leg holes in my tummy as this baby clearly doesn't want to leave!

Scheduled for a sweep on Friday where they'll also give me a date for induction next week if that doesn't work.

Amazingly, it's chilled me out a little bit. I'm a control freak and it's the not knowing that's killing me so at least I have (or will have) definitive dates to work towards now!

Doing some cleaning and cooking today to keep me busy grin

JellyCurls Wed 09-Oct-13 09:06:45

MoN sending you and your family big hugs, its horrid feeling so helpless towards your little one. We refused psychology help when DD was in special care and I regret it so much. Talking about how your feeling clarifies and organises everything. My DH really struggles with the talking side too and resorts to slamming doors and being moody which helps nobody.

Rox have you tried putting your top in the cot beside baby so she can still smell you? Also swaddle tightly babies are used to being all hugged up tight in womb so when they come out it can all seem scary to them. Where does baby sleep during the day? Could she sleep here at night?

Baby J is sound asleep and I need him to wake for a feed but hate waking a baby that's not even stirring.

Oh and big C section plaster removal today - am more than a little scared, does it hurt?

JellyCurls Wed 09-Oct-13 09:09:21

Roofio sorry forgot you in last post. Formula fed babies need to drink some water as well as formula bungs them up. Add some boiled water to a baby bottle and leave to cool, offer baby a few sips and his (sorry if you had a girl) stools will soften. Don't need to drink a lot but they do need some

star87 Wed 09-Oct-13 09:15:49

Hi all, not checked in for a while. Am 38+3 and getting mkre and more fed up by the minute. Have been getting moreandmore painful contractions since Thursday but still no sign of a baby! Have a midwife appointment soon so I am hoping a sweep is suggested. Like you untitled I am a control freak and not being able to control when this happens is driving me crazy!!

Congratulations to all the new mummies and sending positive baby thoughts to all of you still waiting

pinkbuttons Wed 09-Oct-13 09:15:55

Morning ladies,
No baby here Im afraid mrsH but have now given her permission to jump the queue, so well see if shes just following rules wink

Georgie think I must have missed your first post but think were due date buddies... fingers crossed babies arrive soon!

nat sorry to hear about your back, do you think its babys position. I ended up on al fours in the night trying to get her to wriggle off a nerve.

MoN sorry to hear DH isnt coping to well, and frustrating je wont see the psychologist, is there anyway you could go together? sounds like you are still doing amazingly and am glad you DCs are more understanding now xx

Good Luck to all babies being weighed today jelly and hayle

and hope your feeling a bit better today roofio am glad to have a reminder about the baby blues actually. My mum came over on day 4 last time found me crying and said "there we go thats much more normal" apparently id been far too perky on day 3 and she was concerned something was wrong because I wasnt getting baby blues.

shooting sorry to hear DS is ill really hope hes better quickly. we had a night at the start of the week where my DS only slept whilst cuddling me because he was poorly and its the only 24 hrs ive wished for baby to stay in. sending sympathetic hugs x

40+4 SFW...
Have midwife tomorrow so going to ask for a sweep and will discuss induction and reflexology which the MLU offer. Think DH is fed up of waiting too although hes being much more attentive than he ever was with DS. Think the waiting is making him more anxious as well as me.

Also good to hear from falcon and MrsO glad all is ok.

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 09:17:29

xuntitledx I completely agree - if I knew it was going to be another week, that would be absolutely fine. I'm uncomfortable, but not massively so, it's just the constant knicker-checking, twinge analysing high alert state of affairs that's doing my head in. It's a bit like at the beginning - I just knew I was pregnant, but I kept getting BFNs!

Flyer747 Wed 09-Oct-13 09:31:55

thanks Mon as someone else said wouldn't it be good if we lived near one another that way we could all rally around and help you. I think speaking to a professional is a really good idea. I hope dp will as well it may be very beneficial for his emotional well being.

Roofio also thanks I hope that the blues pass asap. I'm glad someone has bought this up as I warned dp about it last night after reading your post and hearing feedback from mummies.

Shooting thanks for you and I hope poorly DS is feeling better soon so you can rest.

MrsH, untitled, pinkbuttons, and anyone else sfw biscuitbrew I feel your pain but I'm only 39+3 so well behind you. I hope and have everything x 'd you'll pop one out today smile

winethanks Happy Birthday Falcon enjoy your day being truly spoilt by dp/ds/dd

textbook Wed 09-Oct-13 09:39:42

Jelly for big plaster removal my midwife told me to soak in a bath in the morning before she was due to remove it. I also peeled around the edges whilst soaking - it didn't hurt at all when she took it off smile

Wickedgirl Wed 09-Oct-13 09:40:17

40 weeks today and feeling sad that this baby still hasn't arrived. Off to see the midwife later where I may be offered a sweep but I've never had one before and don't know if I want one today.

Dh is also getting fed up of waiting and keeps telling the baby to hurry up (in a nice way).

I've had SPD since 17 weeks and the pain is really getting to me. I was hoping it would all be over by now and I would be able to start walking again and being able to leave the house without being in pain all if the time. Night times are hell. insomnia, reflux, Brixton hicks or baby moving all mean that I get about 4 hours sleep a night so that certainly isn't making me feel any better.

Sorry for the moan, flowers to all of you who are struggling with something too.

legallyblond Wed 09-Oct-13 09:40:24

Roofio - what Jelly said! Formula doesn't contain a certain natural laxative that, apparently, breast milk does, so I understand that most ff babies need a little water to help them along. Please don't feel bad!!! It's just a question if giving her done extra water!!

To those who are SFW... Please don't worry about bring induced. I was induced with DD at 40+12 and she arrived at 40+14 and I would def be induced again. It was a calm, good, natural labour with gas and air only...

notsoold Wed 09-Oct-13 09:49:05

Nat...I hope things are progressing for you..xxx

MoN it is distressing to see dps in such a state and please look after yourself. My dcs seems to be getting stressed ( more than us actually) about lo's arrival.... Ds arrives home and instead of letting himself in , stands by the front door calling "mum,mum"....I panic thinking that something happens and come running( waddling) downstairs. Yesterday I was dyeing my hair and was quite annoyed with it all. I do think at some level they are at loss sad
My thoughts are with you...xxxx

MrsH.... Dh does the same!!smile

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 10:01:41

MrsH Orange you describe the nighttime manoeuvres perfectly. This must be our body's way of making us really want this baby out of us now even if it means a different kind of sleepless night...

Wicked I admire you for putting up with so much for so long thanks

And I'm another grateful for the reminders of the rollercoaster reality of the first six weeks. I remember losing it with DH in the street for taking control of the pram when we went out for the first time blush I was still so attached to DS, DH felt like a stranger not a father. It was hard for him the first few months as there's so little for a father to do (when bf) apart from the messy jobs.

MoN I hope your DP will see the lady with you- it sounds like he needs it, even if he just listens to what you and she say and doesn't contribute. xx

thanks & cake to all in need.

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 10:05:30

thanks for the advice on water ladies, I'll offer him some sips. although since writing that he did a big poo on his bath towel when cleaning him so hopefully that's helped!!shock he is quite trumpy too so could just be that.

yeah my sister had warned me about the baby blues since she burst into tears in the middle of mothercare a few days after her ds was born so I knew what it could be like as that is so so unlike her!! last night I burst into tears for literally no reason, nothing had been said, I hadn't seen anything to upset me (purposely avoided watching diy sos as that sets me off at the best of times!!) it was mad. but feeling brighter today so I'm sure it will pass!!

Shirehobbit Wed 09-Oct-13 10:08:11

Survived our first night at home grin

But, there is a small panic on here...I'm home, I'm on the sofa, it's 10am.....where's Homes Under the Hammer? shock

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 10:17:19

Shire I just came on to ask the exact same question!!!! Real rescues?!??!!! I don't know about this!!!!!

Well done shire! Hope you are enjoying having Alastair home.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 09-Oct-13 10:46:36

Hello ladies, checking in to the new thread.

Wicked - not sure that I want a sweep today either. Probably being a bit bonkers but I can't let go of the idea of baby coming when it's ready. I'm only 40+2 and think I want to give it a little longer without any intervention at all.

Glad to hear you are feeling brighter today roofio.

I was thinking back to what helped me when I became a new mum and I loved the book "What mothers do: especially when it looks like nothing". It isn't a typically baby routine book; more a collection of thoughts and snippets of conversations from new mothers. I found it wonderfully comforting to dip into and helped me to make sense of all my new and overwhelming emotions.

It was recommended by my NCT teacher and I was so grateful she suggested it.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 09-Oct-13 10:50:41

Oh happy birthday Falcon x

shooting really hope DS gets better soon - what a hellish night you had!

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 11:02:11

Oh no! Remember the neighbour with the badly trained dog that wanted to nibble my wrist? She's just rung the doorbell and asked if I wanted some company. I had to fib and tell her I was going out blush

Now I really have got to go out, otherwise she'll know I fibbed and I was quite happy in my house, watching DVDs sad

claphammama Wed 09-Oct-13 11:13:04

morning everyone. SC here at 38+1

happy birthday falcon! hope you will have a lovely day. flowers

also flowers for MoN, shooting, and everyone SFW or struggling with night feeds, lack of sleep and general exhaustion.

I'm feeling super low today after another anxious night with no sleep. My ex and DS's dad has a very serious genetic liver condition and it flares up now and then... and will end up with a liver transplant at some point. He called me yesterday really distressed as he started pooing pure blood, cups of it. This is a really bad sign so he is going to the hospital tomorrow to be checked. We are still best friends and I'm worried sick about him. I struggle to see him in pain and so distressed. It also reminds me that, one day, things will get really bad, before he gets his transplant, and my little boy will see his dad really really sick and in pain.... and it simply breaks my heart. On a practical note, he was going to be our childcare when I go into labour and now, if they end up admitting him tomorrow, after his check, I have absolutely no idea what we are going to do... although, in a greater scheme of things, I know it's not a big problem. I can give birth on my own if we have no choice and DP can look after DS. My family is abroad, my ex's family are abroad (coming to the UK only on 22nd Oct to visit and look after DS) and DP's mum is in Cheltenham and old...

really really fed up with everything today and harshly reminded about the fragility of everything we ever have

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 11:19:59

thanks Clapham

Sorry to hear that Clapham. Hope there is good news for him at the hospital. Do have friends at DSs school that could help with childcare? I know there are some less than nice mums... Hopefully your little one will be born at a nice convenient time of day during school hours! My sister used this website when her usual childminder was on holiday for a week emergency childcare website

Happy birthday falcon. cake

I can't seem to get enough to eat today. Already had my breakfast and lunch and thinking about what I can eat next...

enjoy your unplanned trip MrsH!

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 11:26:57

What's a girl to do? Coffee and cake at M&S it is - I simply don't have a choice smile

What a hardship MrsH!

Flyer747 Wed 09-Oct-13 11:32:54

thanks Clapham, this is not nice news for either you, ex dh, ds. I hope he will be ok and you manage to sort out some kind of child care so dp can be with you when you are in labour. And here's another reason we should all live closer to one another. Big hug x

Flyer747 Wed 09-Oct-13 11:34:30

I have my two best friends coming to see me shortly, go out for lunch. And I really can't be arsed, how terribly anti social is this!!

Wickedgirl Wed 09-Oct-13 11:39:04

Happy birthday falcon

flowers for clapham

Good luck for today heffalump

legallyblond Wed 09-Oct-13 11:45:30

Clapham - we used close friends who live on our street as childcare. Their daughter is DD's age and they had a baby 5 months ago (so she's still on mat leave). Do you have anyone like that. They didn't use us for their baby - instead the DP's mum came to stay for ten days... She's old (or seemed old compared to my parents who are late fifties!) but it wasn't too bad as it was just looking after their daughter in her home environment. How about that?

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 11:45:51

Urgh, dps gone off to the gym and forgotten to get the pram base out of the boot of the car for me so now I can't go to the shops like I wanted to!! so annoyed and the water works have started again!! on the plus side baby had his heal prick this morning and he didnt even make a peep!!

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 11:51:52

Happy Birthday Falcon
Clapham that's awful, your poor ex. It's so lovely that you're still close, must be good for your DS, but terrible that he's ill. I hope you find a caring Mum who'll help you out. (Or from what you've said about them perhaps they'll lend you their nanny grin)

Enjoy your unscheduled cake MrsH

I just treated myself to a take out iced latte but only realised on way home that she'd put sugar in it [sulk]

Now feet up and watching Midwives for the first time blush after all your talk about it....

Slippysnow Wed 09-Oct-13 12:06:23

Hiya all,
Took me ages to catch up with all the new arrivals and developments. Sending my well wishes to all that need them.

I'm sc 37+5 I will be a naughty queue jumper mark my words. Me and the birthing ball are best of friends. ;) also maybe tmi but I was wondering whether any ones discharge has resembled what it's like during ovulation (like egg whites) could this be my plug? Sorry for being gross

new mums is there any way to refuse a home visit after the baby is born? I think it will be complicated for the mw's because where I am currently living is out of their catchment, I'm more than happy to go to them.

Also legally I remember you saying you had a positive experience when you had your 1st born by induction. I was wondering how they monitored you, it seems as though you have to be strapped down and baby's monitored which puts me off most.

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 12:21:15

Slippy I've had the same kind of discharge but not that much and assumed it's just normal.

My God this Audrey woman on Midwives is bonkers!! But what a cute baby.

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 12:24:00

Sorry things are tough ATM clapham hope your ds dad gets good news at the hospital (as good as it can be anyway) and u manage to resolve your child care issues. Xx

Enjoy your cake mrsh xx

Happy birthday falcon xx

SC at 39+2 pains seemed to have dissapeared now so won't hold my breath dh just drove me down a road with about 30 speed bumps at god knows how many mph lol my mum keeps txting me to take castor oil I took it with dd to go into labour but I'm too scared too this time cos I no what pain I'll be inflicting on myself where as I didn't no what labour would be like last time lol. Plus I'm trying to be as patient as possible. Plus my midwife is unavailable for 24 hours as of this evening and I can't think of anything worse than doing it without her.

cazboldy Wed 09-Oct-13 12:24:07

Happy Birthday Falcon cake

so sorry about ex dh clapham not really what you need right now xxx

ananikifo Wed 09-Oct-13 12:36:31

clapham I'm so sorry abut your ex. How awful for all of you. thanks

Tmi warning: slippy I don't know what's normal but this morning when I did perineal massage I got really thick mucus, almost chunky so I was thinking maybe that was part if the mucus plug? That paired with bump dropping has motivated me to get more organised for this birth! (DH came home yesterday and couldn't get over how different my bump looks).

Slippysnow Wed 09-Oct-13 12:45:03

anna that sounds pretty similar to me, lovely stuff ;). Good news your bumps dropped so significantly, i also think mine has but have only noticed it because my bra is looser and my clothes aren't siting how they used to.

It's very exciting, just chucked loads of tobasco sauce over my lunch. I shouldn't be complaining because I know there are so many women who have had difficult pregnancies, I'm just excited to meet him now :D

GTbaby Wed 09-Oct-13 12:49:11

Slippy I'm out of my hospital catchment area. I was referred by the hospital to my local mw. It involved no extra work for me! I literally sat at home and someone turned up for nxt day and 5th day visit.
The last thing I'd have wanted was to go to any appointments.
Ask your hospital what they do for out of catchment babies.

Tarlia Wed 09-Oct-13 12:58:31

clapham so sorry to hear about your DS's dad. Can't he see someone medical today?? :S
I'd send out a class email to see if anyone has a nanny (local or live in) who would be interested in possibly earning some extra money - always nice to have a possible babysitter too. You could get her over one evening for an hour for interview/informal chat, introduce her to DS and show her the vitals.

Sorry some of you are having a tough time with the blues or pregnancy, not easy. I ended up crying most of the evening last night - men can be so insensitive and stupid at times. Grr!

Slippy I am out of area too which I didn't realise until last MW appointment. So I have all my antenatal care and have the baby at kingston, but then afterwards the st helier team will come to me. My MW wrote on huge front of my notes that they need to be faxed to that team. I am going to ask DH to. Make sure that's done so I don't slip through the net.

I have discovered that my ironing board goes down really low so have been ironing all of baby's things whilst bouncing on my ball and catching up on the last two episodes of midwives.

roofio87 Wed 09-Oct-13 13:25:25

for those SC I just wanted to say that I've been taking arnica tablets (the 30cc ones from boots) since the birth and I do think they're helping. my bruising and swelling has gone down a lot. the most noticeable thing is the bruises on my arms where they took blood (or tried to, this always gives me bad bruises) are fading so fast, after my anti d at 28 weeks I had bruising for 3 weeks, this time 5 days on they've almost gone. I'd definitely recommend! !

Hi all, keep reading but not posting! SC 38 + 4, finally feel ready for baby to come now, house clean and tidy, cupboards full! Can't remember who said about getting everything ready every night b4 bed in case u go in, but that's totally what I've been doing, keeping on top of school uniform for DD's, lunch boxes, swim stuff etc if needed! Get it all ironed and leave it hung up so if anyones ends up here overnight they can find it all in the morning! I've been having increased bh and discharge but nothing really to point to it being imminent smile

legallyblond Wed 09-Oct-13 14:19:03

Slippy - they monitored the baby only occasionally (every hour or two) with the elastic thing that goes round your tummy and listens to the baby's heartbeat. Even with it on I could bounce on the ball if I held it in place. I spent a lot off time standing up leaning on the bed.

Good to know the arnica works, thanks. I've got some in my hospital bag.

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 15:00:56

I need a selfish post

I really do not no how much longer I can cope like this, sweating all the time in so much pain down there, carrying on like normal with dd. I don't no how I am even driving to get her to sxho

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 15:03:03

I need a selfish post

I really do not no how much longer I can cope like this, sweating all the time in so much pain down there, carrying on like normal with dd. I don't no how I am even driving to get her to school anymore as my belly rests on the steering wheel and I can't turn round to look behind me. U feel like my house is falling apart where I'm slacking so much. I can't even decide if I have reduced movement or not as I feel like the thought that they might induce me if I go in with it is clouding my judgement and I don't want to lie to them. Dh keeps telling me how moody I am ATM. I am seriously stressed I feel like sitting down and crying my eyes out for however long it takes until he arrives !!!

And now I can't even manage to post a rant without accidentally posting it half way through!!!

Soupqueen Wed 09-Oct-13 15:06:26

Hello all. SC at 39+2 but more on that later.....

Thanks for asking after me, clapham, I'm sorry you're having such a stressful time and hope there is better news soon. Congratulations to all who have had babies since I last posted!

I've been fine, just in a bit of a funk for a number of reasons so haven't had anything positive to add and didn't want to just moan when I have a lot less to moan about than some.

Had my weekly monitoring today which was fine, but they're not budging on needing me to deliver by EDD. I'm booked for induction on Saturday. The woman that everybody was frustrated with on Midwives was in a similar position to me - the big difference being that my baby's growth hasn't dropped at all, everything is textbook ok but, because my blood test at 12 weeks indicated a possible problem they're pushing for induction - despite everything being ok. I really don't want to drag this baby into the world before it is ready. Good to hear your positive induction story, legally, I hope mine goes as smoothly. The baby is nowhere near ready though so I doubt it. The midwife attempted a sweep this morning but my cervix was high and back.

I'm now frantically trying to get everything organised but backache and SPD are not helping!

Dreading the blues, I was expecting it, but it looks like in laws will be around. I'm an intensely private person and hate to show emotion other than with DH.

I will try to be better at contributing over the next few days - and update from the hospital (assuming its ok to use a phone on the ward anyway!)

xuntitledx Wed 09-Oct-13 15:12:20

nat - I think unfortunately that it's part and parcel at this late stage!

There's been a few of us who have had a little breakdown recently so let it out!

Hope you feel better soon x

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 15:20:05

I could have sworn I posted asking about arnica, but apparently not - I have bought arnica gel, but now I'm wondering if that would be best and whether the tablets would be better? I though the gel would be cooling, but perhaps not.

JellyCurls Wed 09-Oct-13 15:22:16

Baby has put on weight so we are off the naughty list for the moment - next visit from me will be on Friday grin

Soupqueen Wed 09-Oct-13 15:26:37

MrsHN, I think the gel is for external (but not broken skin) and the tablets are for internal so you could use both.

The tablets are homeopathic though so depends if you believe in that.....

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 15:34:33

Thanks Soup, that makes sense and it did occur to me as I was reading your post that the bruising could be internal ouch

Also, I was trying to think of a polite way of enquiring about the point you make in the second part of your post - I suspect you and I are of one mind on that particular hot potato, but so many people have said that it really worked for them I didn't want to cause any upset grin

Is anyone else struggling with connection on here today? I'm on the mobile app and it's so slow updating and checking threads! Don't they know how often and important it is that I keep this thread refreshed! smile

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 16:26:29

Same problem here threeblondies on mobile app as well I thought it was my wifi

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 16:45:48

Mobile website not app but veeeeerrrrrryyyyyy slooooooowwwwww

flowers Nat and soup.

Soup they can't induce you if you don't want to be. Have they explained properly why they think it is best? Can you ask to speak to someone about it and possible alternatives eg extra scans/monitoring? Was it low Papp a levels at 12 weeks and worries about placenta working? I mix people up, sorry if that wasn't you.

Nat probably obvious but have you moved your car seat back?
I wondered whether it is safe for me to drive yesterday too as pushing the pedal/turning round sent my back into spasm. Other than dr and hairdresser down side roads I am not going to on bad back days again.

Smitten1981 Wed 09-Oct-13 16:56:51

Sorry about your ex Clapham, must be very worrying for you.

I'm feeling so pissed off today with my sister. We had a falling out about 5 months ago as she caused a lot of upset over nothing and involved my parents in it all. Then she moved to the US for work. I haven't spoken to her since as she really upset me and have been waiting for some apology or even an acknowledgement that she was sorry for her actions.

I woke up this morning to a Facebook status saying she's coming home at Xmas and she's excited for the baby to see his aunt.

Firstly, she hasn't asked me about the baby in 5 months, I haven't heard a peep. Secondly 'excited for him to see her?' Really???

I've been stewing all day on it. I really want to send her a message asking why she thinks she can just ignore me for the best part of 5 months and then come home and spend time with me and the baby without any sort of apology for the upset she caused me and my parents.

DH says to take the higher ground and write her an email saying that she upset me and has been rude not to take an interest in how I'm getting on, but to say that I don't want it to be awkward at Christmas, but she needs to know that she can't just carry on as if nothing has happened.

What's the best thing to do here? I just got so angry when I saw her status after she hasn't even asked about the baby at all. If we weren't related I'd happily have nothing to do with her ever again.

Sorry for veering off the baby topic, but it's really stressing me out.

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 16:58:50

orange my seat is as far back as I can possibly have it as I'm only 5ft 2 so wouldn't be able to engage the clutch and I'm a larger lady anyway.

Dh is pissing me off even more cos he's bored and wants to go out somewhere like go and sit round his NANs and the last thing I want to do is speak to anyone or go anywhere as that would mean wearing trousers others than track suit bottoms

Ugh. I feel so sorry for myself this afternoon its rediculous

sad Nat.
You have a lot of family close by don't you? Would any of them be able to help with the school run sometimes?

It seems like everyone has a few days of feeling really down and fed up about now. Maybe it is a sign babies are their way soon smile

My connection is playing up too.

Just had an hours nap. I am so pleased to be on maternity leave!

That was a weird way for her to put it smitten. I agree with DH that you should try to rise above it, you have enough to think about without extra stress. Easier said that done though I know.

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 17:27:10

Smitten how upsetting. I wonder whether now is the best time to get embroiled in a conversation with your sister that might just escalate and make you more upset? I completely understand wanting to have your say and point out how hurt you are by her behaviour but it sounds like she might be the sort who would be completely oblivious to that and would feel that you were the unreasonable one for making, as she might see it, "a big fuss over nothing"? Not that it's nothing to you, but that might be her take on it?

There's no need to welcome her back with open arms - you can certainly keep her at arm's length but its probably not worth the aggro to get drawn into it.

Sorry, I suspect that's not what you want to hear and I hate it when DH is all voice of reason about something that's really pissed me off, but unfortunately he's usually right.

In other news, stabbing pains in my cervix can only be a good thing, right? I've had them before and they've made me wince but these made me properly squeal sad

Smitten1981 Wed 09-Oct-13 17:46:53

Thanks folks. I know DH is right and I should rise above it, but I've really had enough of her selfish behaviour. I'm just tempted to leave the baby with my mum and not see her to be honest when the time comes. It always seems to be me that rises above things where she is concerned and she just carries on acting in a completely self-absorbed way with no consequences. Grr, anyway I won't clog up any more space with my rants smile

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 17:54:07

Blueberry sour cream cake recipe as featured on FB smile

But, having made this once in a ring mould, the quantity was far too much, so I used 1/3 quantities of this recipe for the 2lb loaf tin and would use half for a 23cm ring mould.

Also, I find that Hummingbird Bakery always massively overstate the amount of frosting required, even for my sweet tooth, so instead of the 2 x quantities suggested shock I used 1/4 quantity cream cheese frosting which was plenty for this size cake. So that's 25g butter, 150g icing sugar and 75g ish of cream cheese.

Rant away smitten. Good to let it out!

Hopefully MrsH! Isn't it strange, the same feelings a few weeks ago would have had us worrying now they make us excited.

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 18:39:21

Underside of my bump is very achy as well, like the ligaments are stretched to breaking point. In previous weeks, this preceded a marked growth of bump. Can you get stretch marks on your stretch marks? sad

Wickedgirl Wed 09-Oct-13 18:57:05

Back from my me appointment. Declined a sweep even though I'm desperate for this baby to come. I just the the fewer intimate examinations, the better.
I might regret it when I'm still cooking this time next week but just the thought of it made me cry (not that I'm hormonal or anything)

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 19:06:34

Grrr, not just the mobile site that's playing up.

Nat, Smitten rant away, that's what we're here for. Who else was it complaining about an insensitive sister??

I just merrily booked myself in to see a reflexologist that was recommended to me last night, and foolishly only asked the price at the end of the conversation (will i ever learn?) £45!!!!!(Or whatever I can afford, but how am I going to pay her any less confused)

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 19:10:02

Have you all seen why everything's on a go slow? Some people have some very odd post-sex regimes grin

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 19:23:53

Clapham I had that 'chat' today with child mental health lady. She was really nice and supportive, saying that it's natural for all children to have some kind of response to a change in family make up. She recommended making a feelings book or worries box for DS to note down what's bothering him and then referring to it later. Or trying to write a story about 'a boy who felt...'
I think part of my DS's problem is him hitting a sugar low at the end of the day which I need to avoid with more snacks. He then spirals into negativity (yesterday it was 'I want new parents'. Yeah- good luck with that one!)
She also recommended not giving him undue attention when he has a strop but welcoming him back when he comes back having calmed down. Oh- and remembering that adage of separating the behaviour from the child (my DH is guilty of not doing that)
Not huge insight, but still helpful.

Pinkforboys Wed 09-Oct-13 19:30:05

Xpost MrsH. Thanks for pointing out that thread, I'm in tears already and I haven't got past the first page!!!

Natalieand Wed 09-Oct-13 19:34:04

Someone please send a link to the thread in question I can't find it :-(

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 09-Oct-13 20:10:02
roofio87 Thu 10-Oct-13 02:08:52

how bizarre!!! haha. im awake with a full but also wide awake baby!! Hope everyone else is having a good night!

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 02:27:28

Morning Roofio glad I'm not the only one with an internal clock up the spout.

How are you and Hunter doing? Had he put on weight when the HV came to weigh him?

roofio87 Thu 10-Oct-13 02:41:15

mw said if I've switched to formula she didn't need to weigh him until next week. wish I'd got her to now though out of interest. he was still being slow with feeding and only having 1oz here and there so she recommended we buy some 3m+ medium flow teats for the bottles and he's been (very messily) guzzlig down more each time since! ! if only I could have done the same with my nipples!!
how are you doing mrsh? any more twinges? re stretch marks? I swearni didn't have any until after the birth. I think my stomach stretched to nee extremes during my contractions!!

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 02:50:25

Hungry boy then! Do you have a children's centre near you? Ours has a self weigh station (like at the greengrocers grin) so you could weigh yourself if you feel up to getting out.

I had only a few stretch marks on my boobs (which have gone up 5 cup sizes and that's before any milk appears shock) until about 36 weeks which i was really surprised about because I've had them elsewhere since I was about 12. A few appeared at that stage, then in the last few weeks (when bump growth caught up with my weeks' progress) they suddenly erupted and now I look like I've been mauled by a tiger. No-one warned me that they would actually be sore as they "popped" although I was aware they'd be itchy.

roofio87 Thu 10-Oct-13 02:50:51

slippy I also had a good induction experience. they only had to monitor me constantly because they were already worried about baby's heartbeat. but it was fast from start to finish and no problems or interventions. just diamorphene and gas and air. tbh if I'd realised that my pain would decrease when I got to the pushing bit I wouldn't have.bothered with the diamorphene. it is hard as you don't want to stress baby out, I was no where near ready to go either but my baby out and safe was the right thing for us and I don't regret it

the arnica tablets might be complete rubbish, there's no proven effect and I am a sucker for placebos, but I do think they're helping. they're not hurting anyway!!

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 02:51:26

Not weigh yourself, weigh the baby grin

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 02:58:02

Good to hear another positive induction story. I never dreamed I'd be contemplating it, but I guess it's looking more likely. Apparently I was 4 days late so I assumed this one would be a bit late, but not like this. Mind you, on my original dates I'm only 2 days over as opposed to 7 according to scan dates. My mum didn't have a scan when she was pregnant with me so her dates were never adjusted like mine were - EDD brought forward 5 days which, now I think about it, is medically impossible... So maybe it's just the artificially early EDD which is cocking things up IYSWIM.

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 03:24:47

Morning Roofio and MrsH

MrsH same here with scan dates. I'm expecting to go over as I was bought forward 6 days, I was born on time, same as you no scans back in the olden days. So I also think my edd is artificial.

Roofio glad to hear H is feeding better now. smile

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 03:30:31

Doesn't stop you fixating on the "proper" EDD though, does it...

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 03:33:52

No of course not, you psych yourself up to have had it by your due date.

Have awful reflux from eating at Jamie's Italian earlier...reflux and insomnia confused

kiwee Thu 10-Oct-13 03:36:43

Not had chance to catch up with everything from last few days yet but pleased to announce Charlotte Elizabeth born 7th October after elective csection (though sadly ended up being done under general anaesthetic so don't actually remember much of the first day), weighed in at 2830g and doing well.

Couldn't work out how to change colour on spreadsheet though have put her details on....hopefully someone clever can change it for me.

Will try and catch up with news when I get a moment away from BF!

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 03:39:08

Congratulations Kiwee and a lovely name. thanks

PseudoBadger Thu 10-Oct-13 04:12:50

Hi everyone, I posted an update earlier but stupid MN lost it during the issues....

So a quick summary of the last 2 days:

DD had an eventful first day/night with 24 hours worth of fasting blood glucose tests (due to my medication) which are heel pricks. Also due to a screw up with her cord blood samples they also squeezed out blood group and blood count samples from her heel, twice (the first was inadequate).

She also had her cardiac echo which showed that she has a 4mm hole in the heart. As expected she's been referred for ongoing consults with GOSH. We then went and had her blood pressure and sats measured which were good, so hole not affecting her currently.

We expected to go home today but whilst waiting for discharge my BP had a nice big spike. It was then high all evening so instead they took more preeclampsia bloods and here we've been overnight again, awaiting review I the morning.

Then this evening we noticed that she's developing slight jaundice so they squeezed yet more blood out of her poor heel. Good news is that it's not at an action level so if she keeps feeding nicely it will pass.

Then.... DP and I fell asleep when DD did. We both woke up an hour ago to find a midwife standing over dd - she'd rushed in as dd had coughed up some mucousy stuff and was struggling to clear her airway - we'd slept through the whole thing - how bad are we as parents sad She's ok now but DP seems to think we'll be sleeping in shifts for the foreseeable, which I've suggested is a bit ridiculous.

In other news, DS came to see us yesterday and whilst he was impressed that dd had brought him fireman sam goodies, he wanted to leave the hospital as soon as possible. I barely saw him, and when I found out we had to stay tonight as well I was very upset sad DP has been going home to put him to bed and then coming back which is nice.

My wound dressings are off and I was up and about the morning after the operation. I feel much better than last time, if you ignore the ever labile blood pressure and preeclampsia!

Dd is ever so small and cute and lovely, if rather sleepy due to the jaundice.

I'm sorry that those SC/SFW are having tough times sad you really are getting there, hang on in there xx

apperleydapperley Thu 10-Oct-13 04:14:42

Congrats kiwee
Morning to flyer and. mrshn if you're still awake!

I have been admitted after routine mw appoint found baby transverse so at this late stage (40+3) there is risk of cord prolapse if my waters go.

I think they might try and turn baby tomorrow and then induce me or failing that a c-section. Not quite the birth I was after but never mind. Typical that baby was head down until last Friday!

Anyway am hoping to get a bit more sleep before morning but wards aren't that great for sleeping!

Hope everyone else is Ok thanks cake to anyone that needs them.

Iheartcrunchiebars Thu 10-Oct-13 05:21:34

Congratulations kiwee, a beautiful classic name.

39+2 still can't sleep and very itchy!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 05:30:21

Another one awake early. Congratulations kiwee!
pseudo sounds like a stressful first couple of days. Good that the hole in the heart seems not to be causing a big issue at this stage. Hope your BP stabilises soon.
Mon sorry that as well as Eliana's health the rest of the family are causing you stress as well. Hope it all resolves with a bit of t

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 05:31:57

Whoops hit post by mistake.
SC at 39+4. Getting bored at home now. Even cleaned the

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 05:34:26

Oh, FGS!!

The oven yesterday. A bit of shopping today I think.

Couldn't get on MN at all yesterday afternoon, so will be reading the dunking thread today as well!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 05:36:46

Apple my baby keeps having big wiggling sessions, hope it hadn't done the same. How frustrating for you as was head down until now! At least you will meet baby very soon though.

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 05:47:28

Hi flyer and mrs hn. Hope you managed to fall asleep

Congrats kiwee ! I was thinking you must have had baby. Lovely names. Sorry about the GA. hope bf going well. Are you on FB group? Would love to see pics smile

pseudo flowers for you. You're having a difficult time and I'm sure the postpartum hormones aren't helping. Does Caoimhe have a VSD? When is she being seen at GOSH? Hard to watch heel prick tests, dd had three which was bad enough. I also have a sleepy jaundiced baby here but she's feeding well so not too worried.
Crap about the BP and having to stay an extra night. It's hard when you miss ds but you have to look after yourself. It's lovely that your dp can come back into you at night. I missed both ds and dh when I was in and it was only 48hrs. Fingers crossed you'll be home soonxx

apperley sorry you're not getting the birth you hoped for but at least you'll be meeting your baby very soon! Good luck tomorrow xx

clapham flowers for you. Hope your ex h is ok. Try and look after yourself. It's hard when you're not sleeping either.

brew and cake to all SC and SFW xx

Bronzemoth Thu 10-Oct-13 06:24:38

My waters broke at 3am very weird sensation a big pop feeling then a whoosh. . No contractions at the time and hospital said to come in tho I'm sure community midwife said just to call them just to let them know but they didn't need you to go on in unless they didn't stat for 24 hours. Ive now got slightly odd contractions. I had one massive one over 3 mins that made me throw up and now I've got smaller ones of about 30s biut only 3 mins apart abit like terrible period pains.

So status isnow SWILat 39+6 (no queue jumping here)!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 06:49:43

Good luck Bronzemoth!

Natalieand Thu 10-Oct-13 07:09:38

Sorry to hear you r having to stay in longer than planned pseudo but good to hear that the hole doesn't appear to be causing extra complications at this stage. Hope u feel better soon xxx

bronze u may not be cue jumping but that doesn't stop me bring extremely envy of u! Best of luck xx

Congrats kiwi would also love to see pics if u r on Facebook xx

SC @ 39+3.... I went into labour with dd @ 39+3 so u have been warned baby!!!!!

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 07:10:08

Well they sounds like an eventful and stressful few days Pseudo thanks

Good luck to Bronze and apperley and congratulations kiwee, nice to have another bit of baby news after a few days' break. Very classy name!

Feel dreadful this morning after tossing and turning all night. Couple of hours reading on the sofa didn't help much except to stop me feeling bad about keeping DH awake - not that I should have worried, he was snoring when I came back to bed.

41 weeks (or do they count it as 40+7?) and SFW. Another sweep today. Keep everything crossed for me ladies (except your legs, I don't want to stop any babies emerging grin).

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 07:14:55

Oh, and Flyer, less of the olden days if you don't mind hmm

Congratulations kiwee. flowers I love the name! First and middle name both on our short list. DH said I must be having withdrawal symptoms when I said MN was broken yesterday. He was right, I need my daily baby fix! Thanks for providing it this morning!

Pseudo, sorry to hear about your ongoing dramas with blood pressure and that DD has had to be poked and pricked about so much already, poor little thing. At least she won't remember any of it. Great news that the hole isn't affecting her at the moment but also that they will be doing something about it in the future. Hope things get better for you all soon.

Ooh naughty baby apperlydapperly. I think the turning procedure is meant to have more chance of working on a transverse baby than a fully breech one, less turning to do I suppose, so I really hope it works well for you. Otherwise you might have your baby very soon which is also good news even though c section isn't your ideal plan. thanks

Good luck bronzemouth! That is annoying to be given contradictory advice about what to do if waters break. We were told you don't need to go in if waters break but not close together contractions either, except I that they want to see you if it has been 24 hours because of infection chances after that. Do you feel like going in yet? I hope things progress nicely for you.

Hope you have a better day today Nat. smile

Still very much in pain with my back and hip, seems to be constant now and I can barely walk, sit or lay down which doesn't really leave many options... I think I am going to be housebound and pretty inactive for the rest of my maternity leave unless something miraculously changes which is a shame as it could potentially still be three weeks. (37+4 and SC today).
I weighed myself yesterday for the first time in a few weeks and have now put on just short of half my old body weight so I suppose it is not surprising that it is finding it difficult to deal with the strain. That gives me hope that it will go away again. I worry that it will not go away and I will be practically disabled when the baby comes but that is probably just come being melodramatic.

Ooh 38+4 I mean. Just put myself back a week confused

PseudoBadger Thu 10-Oct-13 07:53:26

Things got a bit scary just after my earlier post when my BP went to 180/90.... Luckily my medication has brought it down, but it just seems that every peak is worse than the last sad I await the doctors' ward round...
Chickie - yes she has a 4mm vsd.

apperleydapperley Thu 10-Oct-13 08:00:49

pseudo just missed your post last night, sorry you had to stay in, it is hard leaving the other DCs I know. Good that baby is going to be under GOSH care, they are brilliant there.

Sanji oven cleaning! That is hardcore nesting I definitely never got that bored!!

Good luck bronze hope it all goes smoothly.

Orange sorry you're in pain, I'm sure it will resolve as soon as baby comes. My hip and pelvis pain has improved so much just with the baby turning round already (even though not ideal!)

Hope things happen soon for those getting fed up cake

thanks pseudo.

I hope so apperly. Glad that there is one positive to your naughty spinning baby.

roofio87 Thu 10-Oct-13 08:07:15

pseudo hope you're feeling better soon and baby is being well looked after.

congrats kiwi thanks

bronze hope it's going well can't wait to hear news.

mrsh my legs are firmly crossed for you (as they will be for the foreseeable future as dp has been warned!!wink )

Soupqueen Thu 10-Oct-13 08:24:52

Glad the site is working again! Did anyone else read MrsHN's link "do you dunk your penis" to the tune of "do you like good music?"? No?

pseudo, sorry your BP is still causing issues. Hope you and baby Caoimhe are home soon. Congratulations kiwee!

Sorry to hear baby has turned, apperly, didn't know they could do that at this stage.

roofio, thanks for another positive induction story, glad to hear it was ok even though the baby wasn't ready to come out. Having slept on it, I'm feeling better and trying to focus on the positives. I know they can't make me induce but I think, deep down, I have a fear of being as unreasonable and reckless as that woman on Midwives this week.

orange, I know how you feel with the constant aches, I used to love my bed, now it's just a place to be uncomfortable for a few hours.

clapham, any news on DS's Dad?

Good luck, bronze!

I'm SC at 39+3, and induction minus 2 days. Today will be spent catching up on things I should have done weeks ago - crazy that the induction deadline has focused my mind when I was aware that the baby could come at any time.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 08:29:32

Morning Ladies- so good to see you all again after yesterday's MN meltdown.

Pseudo thanks and sending you lots of BP lowering wishes.
Bronze I was always told to go in when contractions 3mins apart. Good luck!!!
Appleby hope bubba turns for you.
Orange Have you tried acupuncture for your pgp? After the FB advice Im going to try to get an appt to see if it'll help. At least there's only 10days left!!!!

Oh- and congratulations Kiwiee! So sorry it wasn't as planned, but you must be a proud Mum now xxx

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 08:31:24

Roofio you have my special permission to cross your legs - you've earned it grin

I told DH last night that if this sweep doesn't work we will be DTD this weekend, whether he likes it or not. England expects every man to do his duty... You'd think he'd be a bit keener, given that he might be experiencing something of a drought soon hmm

GeorgieJo Thu 10-Oct-13 08:34:53

40 + 5 and still nothing...

pinkbuttons good luck with MWs today, will be really really to hear what they say about sweep and induction. I am seeing mine tomorrow. 40 + 5 seems too early to make any plans but at last appointment I was told they would want to induce at 40 + 10, will be really interested to hear what they say to you!

legally and others - thanks for the good induction stories, really reassuring. Arnica also sounds like a good idea.

Very interested to see a couple of people mention reflexology, I am booked in for a session today. Really hoping it does the trick...

Congratulations kiwee, gorgeous name!

And pseudo, hope things go really well for you and the baby over next few days.

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 08:41:08

Georgie MW told me on Mon that at my second sweep today they would book me in for induction at 40+10 (so next Tuesday) on a "just in case" basis - I guess they need to plan to the extent they can and inductions and ELCS etc are all more predictable than nice compliant babies who arrive of their own accord.

Pinkforboys I am not sure I could safely drive / walk to an acupuncture appointment. That would probably do more harm than the treatment could fix. I think I might see if I can get a home visit for reflexology or acupuncture or perhaps something at the weekend when DH can help me. At this stage I don't mind paying extra for that. Anyone else in west London area got any recommendations?

Let me know how it goes, I would be interested to hear if it helps at all.

Pinkush Thu 10-Oct-13 08:59:13

Congrats to all new arrivals. kiwee Love the name- think we're also going to use Elizabeth as a middle name (if it's a girl!)
Am now 40+8 (only 40+4 by my dates). Off for my first sweep this morning so hope that will get things going. Also going to book a reflexology session for this afternoon to see if that helps. Was only 2d over with DS1 so getting a bit frustrated but very reassured by positive induction stories. I think induction is mainly a problem when it's done early in pregnancy rather than when they should be out!
MrsH- my DH was also oddly reluctant for DTD but now seems to have got over it after 3 nights on the spin! wink

GeorgieJo Thu 10-Oct-13 09:05:00

MrsHN what did your first sweep feel like? Guessing I will be offered one when I see the MWs tomorrow, and would like to know what I am letting myself in for...

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 10-Oct-13 09:07:27

clapham sorry to hear of your news thanks for you
And congrats kiwee
And good luck bronzemouth
Midwife appt today so am hoping she'll do a sweep as my cervix should be open as have lost plug? Also having very watery discharge, is that normal now or should it be thicker?
Sc at 38+5 and fed up!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 09:09:23

I won't tell my induction story, let's just say it wasn't good. Hoping to avoid induction this time. My area has a policy of 40+12 to induce, does worry me a little that it is so late, DS came out after induction at 40+12 at 40+14 and they told me my placenta was gritty and starting to fail. So much as I don't want to be induced again, if I am that late again this time I would still go ahead with it rather than refuse and be monitored.

apperley my previous bit of nesting was taking the car to be valet cleaned. Not sure that counts, ha ha!

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 09:12:30

Good luck at mw app MrsH, my midwife simply said about dtd "He helped put this baby in you, he needs to help get it out now" we tried the other night, obviously didn't work for us!

Pseudo I hope the bp levels and that is good news dd isn't currently affected by the hole in her heart. Fx you can get home to DS today.

Good luck with ecv apperley I hope it works for you. I also didn't know they could turn this late on either.

Orange thanks for all your discomfort, it sounds pretty awful, good idea about the acupuncture. Dp swears by it for his neck pain and upper back tension.

Wickedgirl Thu 10-Oct-13 09:15:04

Am I the only "over cooked" person that turned down a sweep?

Congratulations kiwee.

I wonder how heffalump is getting on?

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 09:17:13

Sanji in Liverpool they also induce at 40+12. My best friend has been induced both times and had awfully long stressful births that resulted in forceps so I'm also a bit scared by the stories I've heard! Sorry to put a dampener on things. Glad to see a few on here who've reported positively about them. Everyone is different I guess.

grin at he helped put this baby into you, he has to help get it out!

Soupqueen Thu 10-Oct-13 09:22:42

Those of you who've gone in for planned inductions/C sections and haven't needed to let people know for childcare reasons, have you told friends and family when you're going in?

I wasn't planning to make any announcement until the birth announcement but FIL has expressed a strong desire to be called as soon as things are underway (nobody knows yet that I'm being induced). The thought makes me uncomfortable. I think my inner wild animal just wants to sneak off in private but am I being unreasonable? I also don't want DH being under pressure to provide updates when he should be with me and focused on the job in hand.

Soup we aren't going to tell anyone when I go into labour and I don't think that would be any different with induction, especially as it can take a long time to work and I agree I wouldn't want DH having to provide text progress updates rather than looking after me.

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 09:27:14

Me niether soup we won't be telling anyone. Just want to surprise people when they don't expect it.

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 09:28:11

Oh actually we have to tell Mary the cleaner as she is looking after our dog. grin

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 10-Oct-13 09:34:17

Stood shivering outside Laura Ashley waiting for the blasted shop to open (want my new curtains before this baby appears!) so can't post properly...but Wicked I turned down a sweep too.

Going to give baby a bit more time to do it's own thing...will probably live to regret it though...

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 09:46:21

Georgie I'm not sure whether I was lucky because I have heard that a sweep can be painful. But truthfully, it was a little odd and uncomfortable but totally fine. I kept expecting her to say "ok in going to start now" and it to start hurting but it was fine - I would describe it as being like a vigorous smear test or - if you want really TMI graphic a bit like if DH and I have been DTD and we've just managed to catch the wrong angle and it gets a bit too deep and uncomfortable. The things I never knew I would be discussing with a bunch of "strangers" on the Internet!

I have no doubt that it helped that I was keen for her to do the sweep and I have never felt particularly worried about smears so I was probably as relaxed as anyone is going to be in those circumstances.

As for DTD this weekend Flyer that is exactly what I said to DH - although my version went "you got me into this mess, the least you can do is help me get out of it". Indie point out that it wasn't very convincing when he was sympathising if he wasn't prepared to do the one thing that might actually help. It's not like I'll be enjoying it either wink. To be fair, he's worried about hurting since it has been off the cards a fair bit lately, but needs must and all that...

Finally, I won't be telling anyone when I go into labour - I got overexcited earlier this week by all that backache and told my sister but I have learned my lesson there!! I might tell my mum when I go into hospital but that will depend on what time it is and how panicked it is etc. The constant stream of "just checking how you are" enquiries is bad enough without feeling the need to give cm by cm updates...

JellyCurls Thu 10-Oct-13 09:49:19

We didn't tell anyone when we went in to have DC1 as didn't want grans stressing in middle of night, we knew she had a severe brain abnormality. Anyway when DH went outside to make the "your a granny call" he had 15 texts from my mum and 4 missed calls. Last text was I am sorry if I have upset you guys but please call me I need to know you are all ok. Felt really bad but we all saw the funny side of it, my mum could worry for Britain!

Good luck to those in labour and flyer my mw told me we'd need to have sex about 7 times a day to produce enough hormone to soften cervix and start labour. Needless to say we didn't try

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 09:54:00

Oh Jelly that's rather burst my bubble sad

thatsnotmypineapple Thu 10-Oct-13 09:55:59

Hi everyone. Another lurker here, although I did post a bit back in May, and I note that I am still on the spreadsheet.

I appear to be leading a parallel life to MrsH in that I was due on the 3rd and am still waiting. I had a sweep on Monday and should be having another one either today or tomorrow. I am booked in for an induction on Tuesday if all else fails.

Like a previous poster, I won't share my previous induction story, but I was really hoping to avoid it this time, if for no other reason than i want to experience spontaneous labour this time.

I am having some twinges which started last night, so they might turn into something, although I am trying not to get my hopes up.

Congratulations to everyone who have had their babies.

roofio87 Thu 10-Oct-13 09:58:22

we told my parents and pil and our siblings, only because they all knew we were going in for monitoring of baby's heart so we told them after that I was going to be induced. didn't tell them it had worked and I was actually in labour. my mum was suprised when I called 11 hours later to say I'd had him!!

cazboldy Thu 10-Oct-13 10:03:05

Congratulations Kiwee

Apperley so sorry to hear about your naughty little monkey, heres hoping all goes well for you today.

and Bridget, all 3 of us still hanging on atm!! I have mw at half 12, just routine appt, has said she will do a sweep if I want, I'm not sure. I had one with my first pg, but since then have never been this far overdue! Don't know how long they will let me go over and still have a hb? will find out!!!

Good Luck bronze

Pseudo hope everything calms down for you and you can go home to ds. Nice that dh can stay with you. Hope the bp isn't making you feel too poorly xx

Oh and mrs HN can't believe your dh doesn't want to dtd..... though don't hold out much hope.... I made mine do it twice yesterday and I'm still waiting. Top tip...... just climb on and help yourself and as you are so big, they can't escape grinwink

thatsnotmypineapple Thu 10-Oct-13 10:05:16

Re not telling people, because I was so overdue last time (personally l believe the hospital to my dates wrong as she was under 7lbs despite being 16 days late according to their dates), everyone knew I was in hospital and drove me mad with messages.

MIL was hassling DH so much he started ignoring her calls. Then when I was finally just getting ready to start pushing, a rather exasperated head midwife came into the room to say, "could he please call his mother, as she couldn't get hold of him, and she was jamming calling the main labour ward line to ask for an update" grin. My response was rather undignified.

xuntitledx Thu 10-Oct-13 10:06:00

I won't be telling anyone and we're also going to be switching off the location services on our phone as my stalker mum has set it up to alert her when we arrive at the hospital!

Too much pressure I think if people are aware, they'll be waiting for updates and I'd rather DH and I just focus on getting this baby out safe and sound! The way I see it, they've waited 9 months so another few days isn't going to harm anybody.

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 10:37:19

We didn't tell anyone our planned CS date (apart from ds preschool). It worked out fine and they were all thrilled to hear the news smile. My sister and sil new something was up but didn't want to ask too many questions and mil said she couldn't sleep the night before. With ds I felt there was so much pressure. Was induced and dh had to give text updates. Then my sisters had a huge row cos one turned up at hospital after he was born even though we said no visitors that day and the other sister was upset she wasn't there!! All averted this time though smile

Good luck bronze

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 10-Oct-13 10:43:24

Congratulations Kiwee - enjoy lots of snuggles with your little girl.

Pseudo - sorry you are having such a tough time. Sending lots of best wishes your way flowers

Pink - thank you letting us know how your meeting went. Sometimes it can be helpful just to discuss stuff even if no earth-shattering insights come out of it. I think our older ones will be fine in the long-run, given how much we love them, even if there are some hiccups along the way.

Lovely to hear from you Caz - was wondering if you were the first of 7th October gang to break ranks and have your baby.

DP resolutely refuses to DTD with me sad - I haven't the mobility to do the move you suggested Caz!

My current shallow reasons for being pleased the baby hasn't come yet are..

1. I have a horrid spot on my face that I don't want in the "mum cuddling newborn" photos.

2. There's a chance of getting the rather cool birthdate 13/10/1

3. I get to stuff my face relatively guilt-free for a few days longer.


4. I like the look on people's faces when they say "Not long now" and I say actually I'm overdue (I hated it when I had to say "actually I'm not due for another 2 weeks etc)

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 10-Oct-13 10:45:05

Sorry - 13/10/13

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 10-Oct-13 10:46:36

Oh Clapham - I'm hoping there has been some more positive news about your Ex's health today x

AnythingNotEverything Thu 10-Oct-13 10:49:29

Congrats Kiwee!

Have we heard from Heffalump? Was she having a CS yesterday or the day before? Maybe she's lost in love grin

SC @ 39+2. I've had a couple of twinges this morning that I thought might be contractions, but I think they've turned out to be wind. Getting very impatient now. I started with DS at 38+6 I think, so was hoping to have baby by now! Getting rather fed up ...

Good luck to those SC, SFW, or SWIL.

Slippysnow Thu 10-Oct-13 10:50:32

Thanks for the positive induction stories it's good to know we have some options. I'm also a strong believer in pushing past the date of induction if you are sure the dates are inaccurate, but it's up to the individual and towards the end I know lots of us will just want them out!

I would love not to tell anyone but as I'm currently living with pil there will be little chance of sneaking out and going AWOL. Then our plan is to go to my parents which is closer to the hospital for the early stages of labour. Meaning both sets of parents will know. I just hope they are sensitive and don't pester. thats not my I think I would have killed someone in your situation!!

ananikifo Thu 10-Oct-13 11:25:43

Congrats, kiwi and good luck to everyone who is SIL and SFW.

I don't want anyone to know when I'm in labour, either, but I'm sure my MIL will call at exactly the wrong time and keep trying our numbers until she gets through. She has a talent for doing that.

I had my flu jab today and couldn't believe how quickly they did it at this GP surgery. I didn't even get to sit down! We've decided to get DH a flu jab privately (probably at a supermarket) because it would really be awful if he got ill this year. We're thinking not only of him spreading it to baby, but also the fact that flu is the last thing you need when taking care of a baby and working.

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 11:57:06

he helped put this baby into you, he has to help get it out!

Does that mean if I go overdue I have to shag the fertility dude who wielded the syringe? wink

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 12:08:04

Whatever takes your fancy imp grin

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 12:12:13

Ewww no, he was about 70 and was called Alan like my FIL. Not really my thing ;-)

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 12:24:04

Agree with Bridget - I think clambering on would involve some sort of winch at this stage...

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 12:24:35

Ha ha imp

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 12:29:54

thatsnotmy this time I was texting my sister post csection. I mentioned I was a little sore. She texted back I will ring the ward and get them to give you painkillers!!! She's in London, I'm in Canada! I love her to bits smile

Smitten1981 Thu 10-Oct-13 12:39:19

Just back from the midwife. She said baby was 'at brim', I asked her what that meant and her reply was 'is this your first?', no other explanation given. I take it it means not anywhere near engaged though.

Also had the flu jab today, didn't even feel it but the dreaded arm ache has started already - sigh.

apperleydapperley Thu 10-Oct-13 12:40:50

How long after a section can I eat? In case I have one later I'm not allowed to eat and I'm starving!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 12:41:12

I did a Facebook announce when I went off to my induction last time. Which was a mistake because we didn't update with the birth for 4 days (long labour and then had to tell close family and friends first) and people were really quite worried. Won't make that mistake again.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 12:43:34

lol imp. Mine was possibly equally as old this time. Now if it was the guy we did our first attempt at IVF with.....blush

Chickie your sister sounds lovely x

I'm just finishing some mini-goodbye-cakes for one of DS's friends then must waddle off for bus to acupuncture. Having sat on ball for a couple of hours my hip pain has swapped sides hmm

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 12:45:17

Pink my ball is quite comfortable but I get a numb bum after about 30 minutes!

ananikifo Thu 10-Oct-13 12:51:49

smitten I'm surprised your mw Dodd explain. Engaged is how far into your pelvis he baby's head has gone. If you're "free" the head is free to move but "at brim" means it's at the edge of the pelvis , hopefully on its way to moving down. My baby was at brim on Monday and I was basically told he's on his way down. I asked what the chances were of him moving to a breach or transverse position and they said not much chance now at all.

Morning ladies, connection seems much better today thank goodness! Having quite uncomfortable regular bh (38+5) not sure whether I want to bounce on my ball or go for walk and see if they ramp up, or if I want to sit back and hope they go away! Have very mixed feelings that this could be the beginning of the end of my last pg confused

Smitten1981 Thu 10-Oct-13 13:04:41

Midwife was useless as per. Had yet another one I'd never met. I asked who I called when things start happening as I haven't seen the same midwife twice and she said 'well don't call me. Call the hospital'.

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 13:14:30

Smitten when is your due date? At my mw app 2 weeks ago it's head was at the brim, this week it's 1/5 engaged. Get bouncing on that ball smile

Smitten1981 Thu 10-Oct-13 13:22:01

23rd Oct Flyer. I'm gonna get the ball out this afternoon!

thatsnotmypineapple Thu 10-Oct-13 13:28:35

Well these twinges are definitely getting stronger and are now more like pains, but I don't recognise them as anything I felt last time around confused. Am seeing the midwife at 3pm, so hopefully she will tell me I am in early labour. I have never had Braxton hicks so it could be them...

Haven't told anyone in RL. DH would just come rushing back from work and I would feel a bit pressurised for it to turn into the real thing.

claphammama Thu 10-Oct-13 13:36:29

morning everyone - seems we have our thread back!

firstly, thank you so much for all your lovely words and support... too many of you lovely ladies to list. You are honestly the best and such a source of comfort xxx He is seeing the specialist at 3pm today so we will see what they say. I have a feeling they will need to run some tests before they can tell anything of substance. And I hope they won't hospitalise him today... He keeps calling me all the time as he is so worried and so down and needs someone to chat. tarlia he has a team of specialists looking after him (spread across three different hospitals) so had to wait for his gastro expert at St Thomas's to be free (only two days though so he was definitely prioritised, it's usually weeks...) And, by sheer coincidence, I have DS class mums' drinks tonight so will see if I can line up some alternative childcare for emergencies. Some mums seem very nice, I just don't really know them yet. legally we are relatively new to the street (moved here only last November) and both worked full time until now so our friends tend to live far away and most of them have 2-3 children already so I wouldn't feel comfortable calling them at 2-3am if needed. orange thanks so much for this link to emergency childcare - it may come in very helpful indeed... thanks again everyone! xxx

kiwi congrats on your little girl! Lovely name

bronze good luck! looks like you may be one of those 5% women giving birth on their due date?

and good luck to everyone else who is SC, SFW and SWIL! I'm still cooking here at 38+2 (or 38 by my own dates) so far from panicking yet. I had an OK induction story too. I was very disappointed I couldn't have my water birth but otherwise it was honestly ok, apart from terribly painful as my contractions were full on from the start and you don't get many breaks in between them when induced. Otherwise, I was able to move around and, like legally, was upright, kneeling or leaning against my bed for most of my labour. All the midwives commented afterwards that this is what made my labour much faster and helped me avoid any interventions (so make a note!!) They made me lie down towards the end as they lost baby's heartbeat and wanted me to change positions to hear it better. I hated it but it went OK eventually So, not ideal and not what I wanted, but not a bad story at all.

pink thanks for letting me know about your meeting with child psychologist yesterday - a lot of it makes sense and it's so good to know their behaviour is normal and to be expected. Sometimes it can be so hard to "separate the child from the behaviour" as they say... hope your little boy calms down once the baby arrives and he can see he hasn't lost you and your love. My DS is now very close to DP and can't get enough of him - a proper bromance... I love seeing it, it's adorable, and know it's because he thinks "I have the baby now" so he is temporarily shifting all his affections elsewhere

chickie your sister sounds so lovely! you are so lucky but you are probably an amazing sister yourself so entirely deserve it smile

smiten a bit shock at your mw not explaining... how insensitive

and imp and caz LOL - thanks for making me laugh today! caz I agree - they make quite good pregnancy balls don't they? MrsH don't you let yours get away with it tonight... we want to hear all the details tomorrow morning - 7 times grin

really sorry if I'm forgetting someone and sorry for this essay!!

pinkbuttons Thu 10-Oct-13 14:12:38

Good Afternoon Ladies,
Just managed to catch up after a busy morning (sadly not having a baby)

clapham really hope someone is able to offer help at mums drinks tonight, although still hoping that tests come back ok and can be one less thing for you to worry about.

Good Luck bronze and pineapple!

LOL imp your post made me laugh smile
and MrsH really hope DH sorts himself out tonight and steps up to the plate although very sweet of him to be worried about hurting you. Mine has very much been trying to make the most of it and weve DTD 4 times in past 5 days, clearly not working and Im exhausted and feel like a whale

Georgie just a heads up re: sweep, I sneakily text a friend this morning whos a midwife and asked about policy as mine seems to be quite strict but was getting very jealous of everyone else having sweeps, apparently guidelines say not till 4 weeks unless patient is having tightenings...

So I went to midwife and told her Id been having tightenings for a couple of hours last night and she offered a sweep, sadly cervix still closed but apparently she bought it forward a bit so could still trigger something. Have also been to MLU to collect "labour oil" which is a mix of essential oils with instructions to put it in my bath tonight, am on standby to go in for reflexology when midwife is free and have another sweep booked in for Monday. If all that fails induction booked for Friday when Ill be 40+13...

Sad that cervix is still closed but happy to be now doing everything I possibly can to trigger my body to start labour itself. Lovely to hear positive induction stories and does make me feel a bit better but would still love to have my water birth at the MLU if at all possible.

40+ 5 and SFW but at least I now have a plan.

Sorry for the essay, and to all Ive missed cake

pinkbuttons Thu 10-Oct-13 14:13:33

p.s pink serious admiration from here at 2 hours on gym ball!! Im exhausted after half an hr and get a sore back. Maybe thats where im going wrong.

Good tip to mention the tightenings then pinkbuttons! I've got an appointment tomorrow with my gp but not sure I would want him doing a sweep and I am not due yet anyway. Starting to get impatient though!

Do you know what is in the labour oil from the MLU? I had a bath today with my clary sage and lavender oils and also added some of my massage oil which has evening primrose, arnica, lavender and some other things in it. link
Very nice and relaxing and took away some pain for a little while (except when trying to get out! grin ) and the baby seemed to enjoy it but not sure about its labour inducing properties.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 14:31:27

Feeling rather embarrassed and v annoyed at myself- I'm an hour early for my appointment!!
Practically in tears from waddling with hip pain (how am I going to cope with labour?!) and have just been rude to some old biddy who almost fell on me then seemed to want my help carrying her walking stick down the stairs during fire alarm. I was trying to explain that I was not able to walk well myself but she just took offence. Oddly only half the building seems to have evacuated so I've retreated to the safety of the other half to pass my hour.
Pseudo- you'll be pleased to know you're in the safe half!
I'm trying to write that journal to unborn baby but finding it a bit weird. Prob not the best mood to be doing it in!

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 14:36:26

Just back from my last check-up at 38+4. I'm apparently dilated 1 cm, baby's head very low, and he casually announced as he rummaged around "oh I've just given you a quick sweep, won't be long now" shock jeez, you could have asked first!

Oh dear pink! Any trashy magazines to flick through?

Eek imp! Sounds like things are starting to happen. Glad to know it can go unnoticed, must mean it doesn't have to hurt. shock that he didn't ask you! I suppose he must be used to women desperately begging him to 'get this baby out of me!'

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 14:42:14

Yeah I'd be quite happy to hang on ten days, the next few days would be most inconvenient...

cazboldy Thu 10-Oct-13 14:43:41

oh pink that doesn't sound like fun sad

clapham glad to be of service grin

I had a sweep, baby low and cervix 3 cm dilated! apparently thats fairly normal in a mum thats had a few babies. My baby objected to her prodding it's head though and nearly jumped out of my tummy! grin

She hasn't booked me for an induction, and as long as I am happy i'm allowed to have a hb until term +14.

If baby not here I have to see her again next week.

cazboldy Thu 10-Oct-13 14:45:08

x posts imp and orange

no it didn't hurt at all...... no point in doing it if it does apparently!

She said they only speed things along, if it's already starting to happen.

That hopefully gives you plenty of time to have it at home still then Caz. Especially as you haven't gone that late before and it sounds like you are well on your way.

It's 12 days over for MLU birth here because you can't have induction there.

Ooh it is all very exciting everyone.

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 15:45:03

Clapham 7 times shock!! You want me to use up all next year's allowance as well, just tonight?! wink

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 15:48:19

lol MrsH

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 15:53:22

Ha ha ha. Good job had elcs otherwise if depending on dtd dd would have had to be forcibly evicted smile

claphammama Thu 10-Oct-13 16:30:41

lol MrsH - yes, all next year's allowance - birthdays, anniversaries, valentine's day... grin grin grin

by the way, I've done lots of ironing today as I've started to doubt if you will ever come... all this lasagne, garlic bread and profiteroles I will now have to eat myself... sad

imp do you really think you can jump the queue and go before me with your later due date?? angry angry angry

buttons very crafty! well done you on your research. We will all have imaginary tightenings when the time is right!

pink seems you are having a tough day. wine for you. And don't feel bad about your pregnancy brain. I drove our car to the bottom of the hill yesterday before going for a walk, thinking I will then save myself a terrible up the hill bit on the way back. That was at 1pm. I then completely forgot about it, even as I was struggling and dying on the way back home. It was only when DP came back at 7pm and asked "dude, where is my car"... and me thinking about it for 15 min no kidding, that I remembered where it was grin

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 16:43:15

Clapham you make me laugh (and I'm sorry if I have contributed to your expanding waistline smile )

pinkbuttons Thu 10-Oct-13 17:01:07

Sorry to hear having a rubbish afternoon pink dont worry about grumpy woman maybe she was having a bad day too but sending brew and biscuit for pregnancy brain. I left the freezer open for 3 hrs this morning and put my phone in the fridgehmm oops.
clapham oh dear about car, did make me laugh though the thought of DH being very confusedgrin

orange just had a look the "labour oil" is a mixture of Lavender, clary sage, ylang ylang and jasmine. no ideas of quantities but it smells lovely!! if anything it will definitely help me relax.

ImpOfDarkness Thu 10-Oct-13 17:17:11

Talking of baby brain, that's twice this week now I've completely forgotten to shut the garage door before driving off. Good thing no-one's nicked our bikes yet, I'd never hear the end of it blush

Feeling mildly period-painy and had a tiny bleed, but I'm taking that as the result of the sweep.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 17:30:39

So sorry for moaning earlier, thanks for the support.
And thank you ladies for making my brain sound perfectly normal.

I feel a million times better after the acupuncture session- just having half hour laid up on a bed not being able to do anything was much appreciated.
Not sure it improved the hip all that much, probably only marginal improvement, but she did all my induction points while she was at it and when booking me for my other two pre-labour sessions she said 'see you Tuesday and then I'll book you in for Thursday but I doubt I'll see you then' (I'm due Friday) She's convinced Madam is on her way grin

I got back in time to doll out mini-pink-cakes to appreciative bunch of 6yo with exception of my DS who was sulking cos he wasn't allowed a Dr Pepper [sigh]

Oh- and I've got toothache. But when on earth am I going to get to a dentist?!? Nat what did you decide to do in the end?

Oh dear Clapham!

Thanks pink buttons. Well I have half of those ingredients. Maybe mine will work!

Sobbing away watching the end of 'one day'. I never used to cry at films now I do all the time. I blame hormones. DH figured out we can watch sky movies on the iPad using PILs log in for sky go. This is how I will spend much of my maternity leave i think!

Yes imp it sounds like that was because of the sweep. Did they say that might happen?

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 10-Oct-13 17:35:30

Not sure of my post failed earlier but back from midwife at 38+5 and she wouldn't even attempt a sweep and has written rather depressingly on my notes that there are no signs of labour sad
Oh and baby is back to back so I'm hoping he/she turns.

Natalieand Thu 10-Oct-13 17:36:27

pinkforboys I just took 2 paracetamol 4 hourly, 1 if it was still mild and used dentinox and it passed in about 5 days. But then I've had it on and off throughout the pregnancy and know there's nothing actually wrong with the teeth as I've had them checked 3 times but as its the first time you've had it it could be worth a dentist trip just to rule out any problems?

Will catch up with everything else later x

Glad it was positive pink. Let's hope she was right.
Sorry to hear you have toothache. Worth going to a dentist even if you don't think they will be able to treat it at the omens to see what is causing it?

Plus it is free!

Natalieand Thu 10-Oct-13 17:48:11

Everyone loves a freebie grin

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 17:53:52

Is it only free if you can show your MatB1 certificate? THe Accountant still has mine...hmm

Enjoy your baths, ladies x

Natalieand Thu 10-Oct-13 17:55:02

Usually the case pink but as its blaitantly obvious at this stage that we are pregnsnt it should be fine. U could always ask when u book the appt? And if she says they need to see it to treat u u can just say u will arrange an appt when u have the card back

PseudoBadger Thu 10-Oct-13 18:01:04

Hi Pink ah yes at 2.30pm all the power went off in our ward several times - so that was a fire alarm! Glad acupuncture was pleasant smile

I have a maternity exemption card that is different to my matb1 form- like a credit card. Not sure if matb1 form can be used as well, presume so as it shows you are pregnant too. The dr filled in a form for the exemption card when I first went to say I was pregnant at 5 weeks. It is valid for free prescriptions etc for a year after the baby is born too so worth asking for one if you haven't got one.

But I agree worth asking if it is necessary at this stage! They may want it later for their records but I don't imagine anyone would think we are making it up at this stage.

Hooray I have a reflexologist coming to my house on Saturday morning.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 18:36:49

Orange that's great news about reflexologist. Let us know if it works...

My acupuncturist gave me some pressure points to encourage labour- 2 are on the thick fatty bit between your thumb & forefinger (1 on each hand). The other 2 are on your feet I think in a similar place on your feet, about an inch in from the bottom of your toes between big two and number 2. You're supposed to press all 4 at the same time so need another pair of hands...
THere are also 2 points on your shoulders but I'm afraid I can't see where those are!
Happy prodding!

MrsZzz Thu 10-Oct-13 18:37:41

Checking in to say baby boy was born at 9.08 this morning after a 4 hour labour at 40+6 (no queue jumping here). Name is most likely going to be Cassian (but still a bit unsure). Will post details later.

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 18:39:34

Ooh- congratulations Mrs Zzzzz xxx thanks thanks
Nice name x

Congratulations mrsZzz! thanks I was looking at the spreadsheet today and wondering how you were getting on!

Thanks pink rubs hand vigorously

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 18:47:42

Congratulations MrsZzz - about time we had another de babies!

Sanjifair Thu 10-Oct-13 18:48:14

Congratulations MrsZZz!

chickieno1 Thu 10-Oct-13 18:55:33

Congrats mrszzz

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 19:11:29

Congratulations MrsZzz thanks

Ooh just found out one of our friends is 18 weeks pregnant and they are moving to a house near us soon. Yay more mummy friends for me! smile

Found an innocent smoothie recipe book I got as a present years ago and am enjoying a pineapple, orange and banana smoothie. Three other pineapple smoothies to enjoy this week... I don't think I will be eating enough to do anything even blending up the core with it - don't want to go mad and get tummy ache - but is a new way to get more fruit and they are tasty if nothing else.

xuntitledx Thu 10-Oct-13 19:38:36

Congrats MrsZ!!

Been busy today, house cleaned top to bottom with lots of organising and sorting taking place! Also made profiteroles as had a craving after the Facebook post grin

Sweep tomorrow (hopefully) so let's see what happens over the next few days!

JellyCurls Thu 10-Oct-13 19:43:49

Congrats Mrszzz thanks

Well I have been sat on my rear end bf my Jellybaby all day (or feels like it) he better have a weight increase again at tomorrow's weigh in. Is it normal for a bf baby to be looking for food every 2-3 hours and then guzzle for a good 30 mins? I expressed a bottle (90ml) for DH to feed him while I went to DD's class open day and it was gone in about 15 mins then 2 hours later he rooting for another feed.

Oh and at 8 days old his feet are too big for tesco 0-3 month babygrows and almost not long enough - he's so long

GeorgieJo Thu 10-Oct-13 20:08:27

Pinkbuttons thanks for the advice re sweep! Definitely good to know one needs to mention tightenings... Glad you now have an induction booked for next Friday - it must be huge relief have a plan. And next Friday is ages away, I am sure things will progress before then.

I am seeing MWs tomorrow, if they try to push to book induction at 40 + 10 I will definitely ask for a sweep first, as seems to be the most "minimal" intervention.

So thank you Mrs HN for reassuring me that a sweep doesn't need to hurt! Had been nervous, but having read everyone's advice I really think it does make sense.

Plus I guess that as discomfort during labour goes, the sweep will be the least of my worries ;-)

Plan to spend rest of the evening bouncing in the hope that 40 + 6 might be my day...

Livened Thu 10-Oct-13 20:13:52

Not sure if mentioning tightenings actually helps get a sweep - I went to the midwife today and am 39+5 and had two Braxton hicks contractions that she noticed while she was prodding my tum - said no sweep until this time next week! So disappointed. Although baby is 3/5 engaged and I'm getting lots of movements in the right direction so to speak. DH is at the pub (no point him sitting in staring at me bouncing n my ball!), but really hoping things start soon... X

GeorgieJo Thu 10-Oct-13 20:24:50

ps Congratulations Mrs Zzzz! Hope you are in a bliss bubble

Soupqueen Thu 10-Oct-13 20:26:02

Congratulations MrsZzzzz!

I had an attempted sweep yesterday (only 39+2 but I guess it's worth a shot when I'm booked for induction at 39+5), just to reassure you it didn't hurt. It was uncomfortable but not painful.

char1eston Thu 10-Oct-13 20:45:35

Checking in...it's been a while so am off to catch up.
Congratulations on all the births wine

Flyer747 Thu 10-Oct-13 20:56:23

MrsH are you in labour yet? You've gone quiet this afternoon. Or maybe you are just entertaining yourself in other ways with DH grin

Just marking place to help me keep up - have hands full with DS and baby and can't type one handed!

Name is decided, Emilia Rose.

Congrats mrszz.

Fingers crossed for all of those SFW. Dont know about the 7 times a day, but I DTD last Friday, and contractions started about 6 hours later, so worth a go ladies. It was quite vigourous though - dp under instructions!

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 21:45:09

No progress Flyer we've just been out for dinner. Any labour-inducing activities are off the cards this evening - I'm so tired after a terrible night's sleep and a frustrating, uneventful and emotional day. Have lost all faith in any of it working, plus I'm really itchy again so feeling pretty miserable. Been looking into inductions and getting resigned to waiting until next Tuesday for anything approaching labour.

I'd much rather it all kicked off before then - it's our wedding anniversary next Thursday and I have visions of never being able to go away for it ever again...

Baby Center sent me an email today, the subject of which was "your baby at one week old" hmm

kd83 Thu 10-Oct-13 21:48:19

Congratulations MrsZZZ.

Today was my due date. No sign of baby but had my show this morning, quite bloody (sorry TMI) but rang the hospital and they didn't seem at all concerned. Feeling a little crampy now, fingers crossed things as starting but something tells me that might just be wishful thinking.

Good luck to all those who've just had or have impending sweeps, hope they get things moving for you.

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 21:48:48

No progress Flyer we've just been out for dinner. Any labour-inducing activities are off the cards this evening - I'm so tired after a terrible night's sleep and a frustrating, uneventful and emotional day. Have lost all faith in any of it working, plus I'm really itchy again so feeling pretty miserable. Been looking into inductions and getting resigned to waiting until next Tuesday for anything approaching labour. I've got to the stage where I'm not feeling all that interested in the aftermath and the baby when it finally deigns to put in an appearance.

I'd much rather it all kicked off before Tuesday - it's our wedding anniversary next Thursday and I have visions of never being able to go away for it ever again...

Baby Center sent me an email today, the subject of which was "your baby at one week old" hmm

legallyblond Thu 10-Oct-13 21:48:53

Argh! I can't keep up!

Congratulations MrsZzz!!

flowers Clapham - hope your ex's results are positive x

JellyCurls - yes!! This is totally normal. Just feed every time he roots etc, however often. The feeding frenzy only lasts a few weeks. On some days, don't be surprised if its every 1-2 hours at times... That Could be a growth spurt or cluster feeding (enabling them sleep for 3-4 hours or more.

MrsHoratioNelson Thu 10-Oct-13 22:01:41

Sorry, not sure why that posted twice...

Pinkforboys Thu 10-Oct-13 22:24:11

Another dose of Cillian Murphy and I'm ready for bed. I'm going to miss Peaky Blinders, but then in 2 weeks I hope to have something else to occupy my evenings...

Lovely name, Jelly, I'm still making my way through the Name Bible, not got passed the 'L's yet confused Anyone got any leftovers they want to pass on? grin

Sleep well, all! (lol)

apperleydapperley Thu 10-Oct-13 23:02:48

Hello, just to announce the arrival of baby Thomas earlier at 9lb 2.5oz smile he is pretty gorgeous even though I'm biased!!
Had the ECV which worked straight away and then they broke my waters (v painful). When I was put on the drip baby started getting distressed and after a couple of hours it was decided a csection was required. So...wasn't quite the water birth in the MLU that I wanted but he's here safely and very worth it!

Sorry I haven't caught up with the rest of the thread but hope everyone is doing well and congrats for any other new bubbas xx

tuckingfits Thu 10-Oct-13 23:47:00

Sorry shooting. Bit rubbish that mw wouldn't even attempt sweep but it is a bit early. I have been "fortunate" hmm to get two early sweeps but they are doing all they can to help me into labour so that I can avoid an ELCS. She could have had a check though,dunno how else she could possibly judge no signs of labour... And there is definitely time for your baby to move. You might need to spend lots of time hanging over your gym ball if you have one & on all fours if not. Google "polar bear" position too,supposedly very good for helping baby turn.

Congratulations apperley & MrsZ.

39+4 (almost 5) SC. Had second sweep today. Cervix slightly shorter than last week & now 2cm dilated as opposed to 1cm last Thursday. Told consultant to do a doubly vigorous sweep. Had contractions on & off from Thurs to Mon,then pretty much tailed off. Also had loads of my show. Am now very uncomfortable with irregular contractions again,slightly blood tinged discharge. Fingers bloody crossed.

Still keeping up with everyone. * clapham* I hope your ex had a positive consultation today.xx

Cant keep up! Thanks for all the birthday wishes

Congrats mrs ZZZ and apperly and anyone else I have missed!!

Willz is 3 weeks old and my life still a blur tbh on night shift tonight as DH has uni in the morning!
I have organised one hour a week to myself to go to a weight loss class lol the excitement :D. Hope all new mummies and those still waiting are dong well I miss having the time to catch up!

roxvox Fri 11-Oct-13 01:28:21

Congratulations apperley! Sorry you didn't manage to have the birthing experience you'd hoped for, but pleased that baby Thomas is doing well.

Ailla will be a week old tomorrow. Time has flown by and I have spent most of it exhausted! We asked the midwife about the 'won't sleep in cot' issue and she offered some advice which means that for the last 2 nights Ailla has spent some time at least in her crib smile

I don't know if it's the same everywhere, but the midwife got me to feed Ailla whilst she did the heel prick test. As a result she barely reacted (except for screwing up her face briefly before returning to suckling!) Just thought I would share that in case it is not something done as standard.

Ailla's just finished feeding, so I am going to put her down again now and I'll be back on here for the next feed in about 3 hours (hopefully, but probably less!)

chickieno1 Fri 11-Oct-13 01:38:21

Sorry falcon belated happy birthday. I think I said it in my head but didn't type itsmile

Congrats apperley he s a good weight!! Hope you're both well xx

mrsHN really hope things start for you xx

clapham how did things go with appt?

tucking fingers crossed for you!

jelly sat here feeding dd non stop too. She'll be a week tomorrow and is putting on weight. I'm happy as she was so small and lost 5% wt when left hospital. She s still under 7lb but I can see she's filling out.

chickieno1 Fri 11-Oct-13 01:39:49

Snap rox

roxvox Fri 11-Oct-13 02:49:06

Last night and tonight I seem to be suffering with the shivers. I am wearing pyjamas and a dressing gown and am under the duvet in a r

roxvox Fri 11-Oct-13 02:51:16

Shakes made me hit the wrong button!

Room is 21 degrees, and right now I also have a baby lying on me, yet I have uncontrollable shakes. I also had them just after the labour and the mw said it was just hormones leaving my body hmm

Anyone else experience this?

HeffalumpTheFlump Fri 11-Oct-13 03:08:19

Hi ladies, finally managed to get enough Internet signal to post. Baby Daphne Annabelle was born on Wednesday at 12.16, weighing 8lb7oz with a mop of beautiful dark hair. The csection went amazingly well, apart from I kept fainting (bp dropped again and again over the day) and she was a bit stuck so they used forceps to get her out.

The moment I heard her cry I completely broke down and couldn't stop sobbing. I was so overwhelmed and was then completely shocked to see that she is my little double! I thought she was going to look just like dh, but she is all me but with his nose.

They put her straight on me for skin to skin and she immediately tried to look for a nipple. She screamed her little lungs out until we got into recovery and I could get her on the breast. She latched straight on and seemed to know just what to do, clever little monkey.

The first night was quite hard but the staff have all been amazing. She is so much more settled tonight and I can't describe how incredible it all is. I'm so in love with her it's a bit scary. I didn't realise how my whole world would shift focus so quickly. Sorry to waffle on about it, I'm just in awe really.

I've managed to get up and around no problem and am in very little pain now. Hopefully home with her today, I can't wait. Once home with better signal I shall have a catch up on the thread, but congrats for any new babies and hope you are all well. Xxx

HeffalumpTheFlump Fri 11-Oct-13 03:09:00

Sorry that should be 7lb8oz!! Doh!!

apperleydapperley Fri 11-Oct-13 04:05:40

Congrats Heffa it's amazing isn't it? smile thanks

roxvox Fri 11-Oct-13 04:09:08

Congratulations heffa! And welcome to the world baby Daphne! I know what you mean about the love you feel for your daughter; it is pretty scary but amazing all the same.

I'm bfing again and this time I am really hot and a bit dizzy. Reckon it might just be my blood sugar levels because I am not hungry during the day at all, and so only eat if I am made to! Naughty Roxvox. It's a horrible feeling though so I will man up tomorrow and eat everything I see to see if it improves tomorrow night!

moonblues Fri 11-Oct-13 04:37:21

Congratulations Heffa, apperley and MrsZzz and anyone else I've missed. Just finished a feed here too. Got home on Wed and midwife came yesterday. Has lost nearly 10% so has to be weighed again tomorrow. Starting to feed better, so hoping things will improve... Felt a bit inundated with unannounced visitors today. Could do with a quieter day tomorrow. Think baby blues have hit and just really want to have a bit of time with my little family. DH's family are lovely, but do seem to have a tendency to just turn up... hmm and didn't feel like being sociable today.

Baby Cormac is delicious and we have all fallen in love with him. My DD is besoted and just wants to hold him all the time.

flowers to everyone whose fed up with being pregnant. Good luck to those SWIL.

chickieno1 Fri 11-Oct-13 04:39:07

Congrats heffa! Beautiful names xx

rox you need to make sure you eat well and drink lots when you're breast feeding. I also feel cold but at th same time have the sweats. Had the same with ds. All part of the postpartum period.

moonblues Fri 11-Oct-13 04:39:10

Ps Roxvox - do you have a fever? Would be worth seeing your GP if you do...

Sanjifair Fri 11-Oct-13 04:53:12

Congratulations Heffa and apperley!!
tucking sounds like you will be the next of the 13 thers to go...
roxvox if you feel flu-like if could be mastitis? Def see your doc if you do have a temperature.
mon hope the op goes ok tomorrow. And clapham hope ex's results look ok.
Insomnia again here. Well, I guess it's preparing me for baby being here...

roxvox Fri 11-Oct-13 05:03:31

Thanks sanji moonblues and chickienio. I did consider mastitis but have none of the other symptoms (I thought I did last night, but it was just that I had neglected to use my right breast to feed for a while (it's a bit cracked). I've been using it 50% of the time today though and it's now just as supple as my left boob). I took my temp yesterday morning at it was 38.5. I've just eaten a cereal bar and had some Lucozade (forced on by DH!) and am not feeling quite so dizzy now. Also it only affects me at night, during the day I feel fine. Thank you for all of your advice though. If it hasn't gotten any worse or better come Monday then I'll speak to the midwife!

cazboldy Fri 11-Oct-13 05:39:53

Morning all. Baby girl born here at about 2.15 am after i woke with contractions around midnight. Born before midwife arrived, but we are both fine. 7 lbs 10. No name yet.

Iheartcrunchiebars Fri 11-Oct-13 05:42:41

Congratulations heffa, lovely story to hear.

And Caz wow what a shock. I hope you and baby Caz are fine this morning after such a dramatic night.

Woken up with light period pains this morning. Fingers crossed!

Flyer747 Fri 11-Oct-13 06:02:03

Oh wow caz you don't hang around, congratulations to you and your family thanks

Congratulations as well Heffa thanks

apperleydapperley Fri 11-Oct-13 06:07:39

Wow it's all go on here! Congrats caz that sounds quick! Hope all is well. Bridget any news from the other 7ther?!

Roxvox glad you're feeling better, as others said make sure you get checked if you feel bad again but also make sure you stay hydrated and are eating enough - bf drains your resources!!

Fx iheart smile

moonblues Fri 11-Oct-13 06:17:24

Congratulations Caz, that's fast work! Glad the baby waited until your DH and DSs got back.

Roxvox, that's a high temp. If you're still feeling shivery please contact your GP - you could give them a phone in the morning, rather than waiting to see the midwife.

Natalieand Fri 11-Oct-13 06:21:04

Lovely to hear of some more new borns, congrats heffa apperly and caz look forward to pics if u are on the Facebook group xxxx

Natalieand Fri 11-Oct-13 06:21:40

Congrats to mrszzz too. Xxxx

Shootingstarsandcomets Fri 11-Oct-13 06:46:30

Congratulations new mummies!
Thanks tucking I know it was a bit early for one but I'm hoping to avoid an Elcs too so was just hoping really. Hope things get going for you soon.
jelly it's totally normally with bf newborns. They get more efficient at feeding so don't worry it won't be like it forever! He's upping your milk supply by feeding so often and also maybe comforting himself and just keeping his tiny tummy full. I used to feed ds when he was having any jabs etc, really calms them down. In fact to be honest when he was tiny anytime he cried a boob was always the answer!!

Sanjifair Fri 11-Oct-13 06:54:34

Congratulations caz. Quick work!

roofio87 Fri 11-Oct-13 07:25:12

congrats mrszzz caz and apperly!!

ive had a good night. dp did most the work so I've slept well and he's having a lie in now. roxvox im not bf and still feeling a bit shivery and not great. think its our bodies settling back down.
my boobs are really painful today, left one still feels quite hard. hoping the milk will dry up soon. was a bit worried about mastitis/infection but when I looked they'd give me the same antibiotics im on anyway for my stitches so hopefully they'll be fighting everything off!!

Congratulations Caz, heffalump and apperly and welcome baby Caz, Daphne, Thomas and Emilia. thanks woohoo an exciting night! Well done all. Glad the c sections and speedy home birth all went well. Good job you are a pro at this now to do it yourself Caz.

Rox i would at least call nhs direct or whatever it is called now about your temperature. And apparently breast feeding takes up 700 calories a day so you must eat and look after yourself!

It was only 13 degrees in the baby's Moses basket this morning, 16 degrees during the day. I put the bath thermometer in there to see. Might be time to out the heating on when little one arrives. I am quite pleased at the arrival of yucky weather though as I always imagined an October baby being born in cold weather, maybe even snow, certainly not the glorious sunshine we have had recently. Now it seems like it is nearly here.

Thinking of you and your family today MoN. thanks

roofio87 Fri 11-Oct-13 07:36:59

orange I agree, all baby's clothes are winter ones but he's hardly worn any cardis etc because its too warm!!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 11-Oct-13 07:49:50

Wow, lots of baby news to wake up to..Many congratulations to MrsZzz, Heffa, apperley and Caz Lots of best wishes to you all.

Apperley - I'm still here and SC at 40+4 (going to save SFW for next week) Get my induction date today but I'm hoping I won't need it. DD was 6 days over, so hoping bump is just following the same pattern.

Sorry you didn't get the water birth you'd planned, but pleased it all worked out ok in the end x

Caz - that was super quick! I hope you are enjoying a lovely breakfast with your newly expanded brood x

Soupqueen Fri 11-Oct-13 07:51:07

Congrats Caz, heffa and apperly. Babies coming thick and fast!

I agree, orange, October should be chilly, I'm glad to see the change in weather.

rox, I have no experience yet but the midwife at our antenatal class did warn us about shakes and shivers.

SC at 39+4. Induction minus 1 day, eek.

Soupqueen Fri 11-Oct-13 07:52:05

Good vibes heading down the M8 to you, MoN

Pinkforboys Fri 11-Oct-13 08:06:16

Wow- what a night! Congratulations Heffa, Caz & Appleby (Glad you saved yourselves for when MN wasn't held up by dunking penis talk!)

Bronzemoth Fri 11-Oct-13 08:09:52

Congratulations mrszzz, apperley,caz and heffa. Caz I think must have record on here for quickest labour!

Mine lasted nearly 24 hours but little baby g was born at 1.31am this morning. It involved threatening to discharge myself from hospital, yelling a taxi driver who complained my labour pains were upsetting him! And deciding I wanted an e