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December 2013 - waddling slowly onwards

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LadyMedea Mon 30-Sep-13 19:26:36

Our new thread!

PistachioTruffle Mon 30-Sep-13 19:36:33

Thank you! flowers

Whisper, what a lovely thing for your friends to do! They sound like real stars.

If I don't start sleeping soon I don't know what I'll do. I'm sooo tired sad

Stom91 Mon 30-Sep-13 19:36:44

Marking place x

mumoftwoboysS Mon 30-Sep-13 19:37:49

Another thread already! Now I just need to remember what I read on the last one!

feather I'm sorry if you mentioned it before but why do you want a c- section? Did you have a bad experience last time?

NomDeClavier Mon 30-Sep-13 19:39:51


Gosh feather that sounds bloody awful. Glad you got your way in the end.

I need to go have the GTT done Thursday or Friday morning, plus all the other bloods. I'm really not looking forward to thank drink. I threw it up last time I had it.

alyssa have you considered a second hand pram? There are some good bargains on preloved for what wouldn't be much more than a good sling. If you'll be using it as baby's main mode of transport for the love of all things holy dint get a baby bjorn type one. You'll knacker your bank and it's not good for baby's hips. A proper sling or carrier will support baby in a froggy position or knee to knee when they get a bigger.

Stom91 Mon 30-Sep-13 19:48:28

nom I'm planning on drinking my through a straw so I can't taste it so much (put the straw as far back as I can lol)
I hope I don't throw it up. Bright orange lucozade everywhere will not be a good look lol..

I'm really worried about this whooping cough jab! So worried it's going on hurt I'm not. To fused about the flu jab as I've had that before.

NomDeClavier Mon 30-Sep-13 19:50:53

It's not so much the taste that gets me as the nausea from too much sugar.... Which is sort of the point of having the test!

WhisperMen Mon 30-Sep-13 19:55:59

it's weird that they don't need to do a blood test before the lucozade Storm else how do they know your normal level and if the lucozade has affected it?

One of my dads friends has just popped round and given me a massive dish of chicken casserole. I haven't a clue why she did it, but it's solved the problem of not having any food to eat. She just knocked on the door, I opened it and she went "hiya Whisper, thought you would like this. Don't worry about the dish, just give it to your dad when you see him, got to dash, bye" and ran off back to her car. I was left standing in the doorway holding a pot of casserole with a confused expression. It seems it's be nice to Whisper day haha.

Featherbag Mon 30-Sep-13 19:57:40

Alyssa, I've just ordered a stretchy wrap sling from Victoria Slinglady on eBay for about £18, I did a fair bit of research beforehand and her slings come highly recommended for tinies!

I want a section for many reasons, but mainly because of surgery I've had which could be disrupted by a VD. It could also be catastrophically disrupted by episiotomy and forceps, leaving me needing extensive reconstructive surgery and/or totally incontinent. I was meant to have a section last time but when I went into prem labour I was completely ignored and forced to deliver vaginally against my will, with no pain relief. I avoided episiotomy by a whisper, as I was too out of it to argue when the doc said she would likely need to do one. The medical staff seem clueless about the surgery I've had, why I had it, consequences of VD, etc. and I just don't trust them. I have never felt so helpless, ignored and frightened as I was during the last labour, where I am usually strong, assertive and have a very much 'get on with it' attitude. As a result I suffered badly with PND which ruined my first months as a mum, I could've handled the NICU weeks but I couldn't handle how I felt. I'm not having more babies, so I'm leaving nothing to chance this time, I WILL have a good experience!

NomDeClavier Mon 30-Sep-13 20:02:49

VSL wraps are bloody brilliant. And she is a nice, helpful person. Good choice, feather.

That's really sweet whisper. Enjoy it!

I'm sitting snacking on pretzels and Nutella. Piggy piggy.

Xenadog Mon 30-Sep-13 20:06:04

Featherbag that sounds like an awful experience! Have they agreed you can have the C sec? Fingers crossed you have the labour/birth you want this time.

Whisper how lovely??? Seriously what a fab day you have had!

Thanks for setting up the new thread LadyM smile

Stom91 Mon 30-Sep-13 20:09:43

whisper she didn't say anything about doing one before? My sugar is usually a 4. And it's in my notes. So i guess that's ok....

I've just got a letter saying drink the lucozade at 730 and be at the hospital by 9 for a blood test at 930

Featherbag I hope you get the CS you want x

WhisperMen Mon 30-Sep-13 20:09:54

I think the universe is being nice to me to make up for the fact it took me nearly 2 hours to do a 10 min walk home from the midwife because I had horrendeous pains and had to keep sitting on the pavement and I have been in quite a lot of pain ever since. That and I have to go and get punctured again because my one useable vein apparently doesn't want to work anymore.

Does anyone know what happens if they physically cannot get any blood for the 28 week bloods?

NomDeClavier Mon 30-Sep-13 20:11:58

They'll get the blood out another vein whisper. They've had to go for DS's feet before sad Are you getting your bloods done by a proper phlebotomist at the hospital?

mumoftwoboysS Mon 30-Sep-13 20:15:32

Oh and I just got an email about the tesco baby event if any of you need any more bargains/essentials!

WhisperMen Mon 30-Sep-13 20:16:32

I have to go to the hospital sometime this week or next to try and get them done there. my veins are so stupid. I literally have one that you can get at and it's the smallest skinniest little thing ever. When they did the bloods for my booking appointment and had to do all the vials then it took about 10 minutes as it just drips out really slowly.

kchapper5 Mon 30-Sep-13 20:17:31

Ooo Shiny new thread smile.
whisper hope your pains get better soon.
I have to have a blood test first then the sugary drink then sit for 2 hours and have another blood test when i go next week.
I'm in a good mood tonight because i'm off work tomorrow smile only so I can have my flu jab but still I've booked myself into the hairdressers afterwards to make me feel better smile

Stom91 Mon 30-Sep-13 20:24:31

Hmm im seem to be the only one that isn't have a bloodtest bbefore the lucozade... Strange..

Ooh enjoy the hair dressers.. I'm having mine done Friday smile

MildredH Mon 30-Sep-13 20:47:04

Thank you for the new thread grin.

Marking place.

DH is away tonight- thinking of going to bed now just to get comfy.. The lower back pain has migrated now into a wierd position in my groin- kind of in the crease btw my thigh and fanjo on one side.

BohemianRaspberry Mon 30-Sep-13 21:38:59

New thread and everyone's already piling in! Yay

When I had the GTT stom I had fasting blood test at 8:40, drinky lucosade immediately after, second blood test at 9:40, fasted again and bloods taken again at 10:40 if that helps? I had three readings - 5, 10, 5

Envying your day whisper smile

Stom91 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:51:42

Oh weird I'm just having the one. As I have to drink the lucozade before I go to the hospital to have blood taken.

PinkWitch803 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:53:06

Someone asked about the pregnancy pillow. I find mine really comfy unless I am hot, or need to turn over! So for the last couple of days I haven't used it.

PinkWitch803 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:54:02

Oh, I do have a couple of those bean bag pillows and I use the floppiest one to support my belly if I a not using the big extra person in bed pregnancy pillow.

Featherbag Mon 30-Sep-13 22:07:16

Forgot to add, got my first dose of steroids today to strengthen those little lungs! Getting more tomorrow.

ccsays Mon 30-Sep-13 22:17:33

Just marking my place.

That's me back a work now, seven shifts to go then I'm off! Counting down!

Off to bed for an early night now, still sweltering all the time!

violetbean Mon 30-Sep-13 23:57:50

I love my v shaped pillow (from Argos) but it's a pain to turn over with! Have been using it since about 10 weeks though so used to it now.

My veins are awful too, have to go to a phlebotomist every time and ask for a butterfly needle (the one they use for kids) and they take it from the back of my hand. Annoying but have stopped letting anyone but an expert even try so the experience is usually much less painful now!

Thanks for the new thread Lady smile

Xenadog Tue 01-Oct-13 07:00:32

Morning all. Well I slept through (apart from one loo get up) and I'm putting it down to Patrice my Pregnancy Pillow! DP is quite jealous that I'm snuggling up to another man(!) in bed but when I slept so well I can't get rid of Patrice now. Even the dog likes Patrice and when she came into bed for a cuddle this morning she hogged him!

Have a great day ladies and we're one day closer all the time! smile

mumoftwoboysS Tue 01-Oct-13 07:08:55

feather I'm glad they listened to you in the end then- nothing worse than feeling you'd have to go through something against your will.

Are the steroids in case baby comes early?

Looking fwd to my mw Apt this morning (tho not the blood test!)

Stom91 Tue 01-Oct-13 07:45:19

Just drank the lucozade... Feel rather sick now.. Hopefully I won't throw it up lol x

itsliz Tue 01-Oct-13 07:45:25

Ahh, so this is where you've all been hiding! Can't believe how fast we're whizzing through these threads!

whisper that's such a lovely gesture from your friends, it makes such a huge difference wearing something comfy and flattering during pregnancy doesn't it?!

Nom are the Baby Bjorn carriers really that bad? We weren't planning on getting anything like that but we were given one that's pretty much brand new by our neighbour. Haven't done much research into them but I've heard both good and bad reviews so far...

feather Good on you for standing your ground! Here's hoping that it all goes to plan on the day, I'm sure it will though, sounds like you're a force to be reckoned with, haha!

All this talk of needles and tests is making me feel really far behind - my 28 week appointment isn't til Monday so until then I have no idea what jabs I will or won't need!

Popped down to Tesco with DP last night but the Baby event doesn't seem that great this time round. A few decent bits (I think the Cussons Mum & Me range is all half price and nappies are 3 for 2 etc, but no real bargains to be had. sad

Mothercare is just next door to Tesco so we went in there and ended up getting tickets for their baby event thingy next week.
Has anyone been to one before or have any plans to go? It sounded like there's going to be a lot of useful advice, demonstrations, money off etc (and possibly a goody bag!)

More info here if you're interested:

Also, it's October which means we can now say we're having our babies the month after next! Eeeek! grin

itsliz Tue 01-Oct-13 07:50:21

Ooh and best of luck with the test this morning stom! If you feel rubbish, just take big deep breaths and try to keep yourself occupied. I'm sure you'll be fine though smile

Quick question... Am I the only one here that actually likes Lucozade?! grin

TakingTheStairs Tue 01-Oct-13 08:00:56

Morning all. I haven't been on for ages, don't think I managed one post in the last thread blush
Just checking in to say hello. Feather, so pleased to hear people ( of the medical variety) are finally listening to you x

PinkWitch803 Tue 01-Oct-13 08:11:50

I like lucozade sport. But not the original stuff!

LadyMedea Tue 01-Oct-13 08:23:34

I like original lucozade, it reminds me of being little.

I've dragged myself out if bed this morning to go see a friend 2 hours away by train. I think it will probably kill me - both in terms of exhaustion and SPD - but she goes back to work next week and I haven't met her 4.5 month DS! handmade quilt will also finally be delivered.

WhisperMen Tue 01-Oct-13 08:25:47

guy's it's October...how has this year gone so fast? I think we've missed a month or something...it can't be October already...<sits in the corner gently rocking backwards and forwards>

Stom91 Tue 01-Oct-13 08:30:44

Urgh I hate all lucozade.. DP loves the stuff...

Ahh October!!! I love October because it's my birthday & because it's the beginning of autumn...

Just arrived to the hospital and the pay machine is out of order... No need to pay for parking - result!

lisbapalea Tue 01-Oct-13 09:21:55

Morning all!
My arm is killing after yesterday's whooping cough jab - was really painful to lie on my left side so had a crap night's sleep. Also have woken up feeling really rough, almost fluey - do you think that's the jab, or I am coincidentally coming down with something?

Either way I am feeling really grumpy and sorry for myself. On my way into London for a day of horrible meetings, so I think my colleagues and clients will be lucky if they escape my bad mood today!

Cannot wait to stop work - 7th Nov cannot come quickly enough!

Chilli81 Tue 01-Oct-13 09:34:33

Wow this thread moves fast!

ccsays I'm also on count down. 19 more work days. Yeay!

MildredH Are you sure your pain isn't SPD? My pain often migrates down to my groin area. If it is there's stuff you can do to stop it getting worse.

Hope everyone has good days.

Stom91 Tue 01-Oct-13 09:47:22

lisa don't say that I have my whooping cough and flu jab at 2:30 today...

They managed to get my blood first time which makes a nice change!
I had a crappy night sleep too... Feel like i haven't slept a wink. Worrying about money it think :/

lisbapalea Tue 01-Oct-13 09:51:01

Sorry stom I shouldn't be such a misery guts! Am sure your jabs will be fine - glad the blood taking was straight forward!

NomDeClavier Tue 01-Oct-13 09:57:43

lisba I'm quite thankful I get to avoid the whooping cough jab! Hope your meetings go well.

stom good luck for the blood tests.

lady poor you sad I hope your friend appreciates the effort! I can't wait for my sewing machine to be out of transit so I can get making cute baby things. I have fabric to make a complete pram set, but not a nasty frilly one, and flannelette for nighties and a roll of fat quarters for a quilt....

If you're not interested in baby carriers feel free to scroll past now!

itsliz Baby Bjorns and similar carriers aren't the work of the devil unless they're used forward facing - excellent blog but they're not optimal either.

Imagine the choice between sitting on a chair and a bicycle seat. How a baby sits in a classic Bjorn is like sitting on a bicyle seat. All their weight is concentrated between their legs, their legs are swinging free and pulling down. If there is any kind of pre-existing weakness in their hips then this will make it ten times worse, exacerbated if you're swaddling with their legs straight or the car seat is very narrow and they spend a lot of time in it etc. A properly wrapped fabric sling or an ergonomic carrier is like the chair. Hips and thighs are supported and the only flex is in the knee. Very small babies are froggied up so there isn't even that.

As for you the classic carriers have 2 straps which cross at the back, and they're quite narrow. Baby's entire weight is focused at the top of your shoulderblades pulling your shoulders forwards and you off balance. A wrap sling crosses further down and ties at the back giving you lumbar support. A soft structure carrier is more like a backpack put on your front. Most can also be used as back carriers too. There are other options - ring slings and mei teis (which are a cross between a structured carrier and a wrap - but I mention wraps and soft structured carriers like the Ergo and Manducca because they're best known.

A new style baby bjorn has lumbar support which on me does nothing unless I cinch it so tight it squishes my boobs and makes upper body movement impossible. I think men find them much better tbh. They also have a wide seat for the baby, but people still turn them forward facing and the brand shows them forward facing which just breaks my heart. If you want baby to see the world when they get to 3 months or so then try a hip carry in a ring sling. Before then they a) don't need the stimulation and b) don't have good enough neck muscles to hold their heads up so they end up flopping back and over-extending their throat.

If you want to buy a carrier look for a reputable brand and beware of fakes (particularly ergos sad) because they may not have solid stitching or might use toxic dyes.

A baby bjorn is a great introduction to carrying your baby hands free and fine for occasional use - you're parked halfway down the road and don't want to lug the pram in and our the car or you live on the second floor and the pram is down 2 flights of stairs - but if you plan to use it for extended periods like alyssa or you have a refluxy baby like I had who needs to be carried 24/7 then protect your back and your baby's hips and get a decent carrier. They don't have to be expensive and you can pick them up very reasonably second hand. Remember that carriers like the Bjorn are tested by the brands for use similar to a car seat, which a baby shouldn't be in for more than 2 hours at a time. They're really not designed for extended babywearing as practiced in many cultures. When you look at the commonalities across those culturs in terms of carrying style whether it's SE Asian, African or Peruvian you find they're universally easier on the person carrying and the baby is well supported. The number of people I know who are aghast that I carry a heavy 2.5 year old, even when pregnant, are the same ones who had a classic Bjorn and said after 3 months their back was knackered, which is a shame because carrying continues to be so useful through teething, separation anxiety, when they want to walk but get tired but want to get down...and a carrier can go all sorts of places a pram won't! So don't not use it, but bear in mind its limitations, use it with baby facing you only and if you find you're using it more than a couple of hours at a time or on a daily basis for less time or your back starts hurting and you want to go on carrying then look up your loal sling library and investigate other options.

That was a bit of an epic. Sorry sad I'm only a bore about that and BFing! BFing because I think the support is crap and this because I had borderline hip dysplasia which didn't need correcting in a spica, although sometimes I wish it had been, but thanks to a very enlightened paediatrician in the eighties my parents were told to use terry nappies (the bulk spreads the hips holding them in the correct position) and avoid baby carriers. Thankfully there's been a lot of research since then on safe carriers but it made me do a lot of reading around when I was having DS.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 01-Oct-13 11:16:11

Mw appointment went well, baby growing well/on dates,lovely to hear heartbeat and when I told her I'd been having blood tests for low platelets she looked at the results and said that's not low and the other mw shouldn't have worried me about it! She deals with low platelet/high risk births and there's no need to worry unless they're below 50,000 (mine were 129,000) I'm so annoyed I went through all that stress and worry for nothing!

nom thanks for the info- wondered why my back always killed using the baby Bjorn- thought I just had a weak back. So are you saying the fabric ones that you wrap round loads of times are better? I borrowed one of those and used it for oth DC's when they were tiny and used to cry a lot in the evenings-kept them close to jiggle and walk around and was less knackering than holding them. Need to get another one now. Also have a baby Bjorn but DH tended to use it more last time.
Are you the one who is the bf councillor too? I'm gonna need some help with that after 2 failed attempts!'

And talking about sewing- those of you who've done patchwork quilts have you done them before? I love crafty stuff and would love to have a go but no idea where to start- it's a bit daunting...

itsliz Tue 01-Oct-13 11:35:37

So glad to hear everything is going ok mum! I don't think midwives realise just how important it is to say the right thing to a pregnant woman, especially considering how much we end up over analysing everything! Good to know that there are some nice ones out there though smile

And don't apologise Nom, that's exactly the sort of info I needed! It's things like this that make me so, so glad that I joined MN because I just wouldn't have a clue otherwise...!

Taking into account everything you've said, I don't think we'll be using the Baby Bjorn much. I've suffered from a bad back since I was 5 (fell off of some gym apparatus at school and landed on a hard wooden floor because they didn't put any crash mats down... Ouch!) so I really don't want to risk making that any worse, let alone causing my baby to have problems with his hips or posture.
I think we'll hang on to it just in case, but since we live quite close to town and drive everywhere else, it would only be used for short periods of time, if at all.

If we hadn't been given the Baby Bjorn then we probably wouldn't have bought one, so it just helps to know exactly what we've ended up with! I suppose it could be worse though, at least it's branded and not a fake!

NomDeClavier Tue 01-Oct-13 11:58:10

I'm a trainee BFC, mum, so feel free to ask any questions but there are loads of very, very experienced posters who are incredibly generous with their time over in the feeding sections that far surpass me in my knowledge. I'm still learning smile Glad your MW appt went well!

As for slings do go along to a sling library and try some out. There are likely to be plenty of very experienced baby wearers there, even if you find them a bit far out their expertise is invaluable! The best libraries are run by trained baby wearing consultants (that's another course I'd love to do). The fabric ones are very handy in the early days, as long as it's a stretchy, because you tie it up and then pop baby in and out. Plus you can feed in them!

I have quilted for a while, but I started with very simple quilting and you just have to try stuff out and be brave so go for it! There are tons of tutorials online.

WhisperMen Tue 01-Oct-13 12:12:20

in a lot of pain today. the bottom of my back and my hips feel like they're on fire and paracetamol is doing naff all sad also stupidly tired after the second night with hardly any sleep thanks to the pain in my hips when I lie down.

pregnancy is stupid. it makes you exhausted but then never lets you sleep.

anyway, end of moan grin

that info about the carriers is really useful. we have been looking into what to get and feeling clueless. good to know what to avoid.

hope you're doing okay today storm with all your stuff going on.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 01-Oct-13 12:12:26

Nom will remember that when I start bf tho I'm sure I'll be I the bf thread too!! And yes, maybe I should just be brave and try quilting- just wish there was a class near me for some guidance.

Sorry a bit tmi but the last few days I've had loose stools which is giving me a tummy ache (going 3-4 times a day) I just read somewhere that prenatal vitamins can cause it- and funnily enough I've been more vigilant and been taking them every night. God. It's making me feel lousy (not sure what's worse, being bunged up or like this!) might stay off them for a few days and see. Anyone else had this problem?

NomDeClavier Tue 01-Oct-13 12:19:04

Are you sure there isn't a class? Often local sewing or wool shops will have one. If you're anywhere near Marlow or Henley on Thames I can recommend an excellent one.

Sorry you're feeling rubbish whisper sad I agree pregnancy is rubbish - makes you tired and won't let you sleep is about right!

Stom91 Tue 01-Oct-13 12:47:34

Pregnancy is rubbish... We should sue them for false advertising lol.

Yeah I'm ok whisper.. Back is killing me too and so tired as didn't sleep.. Plus that lucozade has given me a headache... Caffeine overload I think lol..

Managed to sort of work our money out. DP can cover all bills on his wages if we just spend the bare minimum. Next month should be better hopefully..

Talking of BF. I'm going to a class thing on the 24th... BF really freaks me out and i just feel it's not for me. Dont get me wrong ice got nothing against anyone doing it. Its natural and so good for baby. But it's just weird for me.. Hopefully this class will help make me less freaked out

MrsShrubs Tue 01-Oct-13 13:11:06

Blimey can't believe how quickly this has all moved! Thanks for the new thread!!

Thanks to those about the growth scan info, hoping by my next appointment my measruement won't be so boarderline, just annoyed none of the other MWs didn't write my measurements down so I can see what the progress has been like.

Those with vein problems I had this at my 12 week appointment and the phlobotamist said that not being hydrated enough can have an effect so this morning I drak plenty of water before my appointment and while I was waiting and was in and out in about a minute smile so maybe try that?

nom thanks for all the carrier info and stom for asking because I'd been wondering about the same thing with the bjorns v slings.

Nursery work has started, so excited!!!!!

abcdemma Tue 01-Oct-13 13:35:52

Found you all smile (thanks Whisper lol)
Booked antenatal classes but need to get BF ones sorted too, busy month ahead!!

Stom91 Tue 01-Oct-13 13:37:20

Im ok at giving the blood they just can't find the vein... Iget it from my dad.. Hes bbeen to the nurse 3 times and been stabbed in both arms each time and nothing comes out he's tried drink loads and all sorts x

Roselau Tue 01-Oct-13 13:38:01

woah this thread is just going so fast! sorry I've definitely missed some parts.
whisper i'm so sorry you're in so much pain! do you know why? it seems awful
mum a few weeks ago, i had about 10 days of the exact same thing. I read that it could be the vitamins (but I hadn't changed vitamins I was taking) or that it could actually be a different form of constipation where everything doesn't come out when you have to go so it just feels like you have to go all the time and it's loose as a result. It was right around my 25 week check-in with the GP and he basically said: don't worry about it, it's normal in pregnancy... not very useful, but it did go away.

So my mom is here to help me out in my last week here. it's nice because she's running all my errands, making me food, cleaning, etc. But psychologically it's really hard. She managed to tell me casually this morning that she really doesn't see me as a mom. I didn't really need this, I have enough things to stress me out at the moment. but she just doesn't realize it. I know people say that they want their mom around when the baby is born, but I'm not sure the physical help makes up for the psychological abuse to be honest.

28 wk mw check-in tomorrow. have no idea what to expect. no one has ever mention GTT to me. I dont know if I want to get the whooping cough shot so close to taking the flight in case there are some side effects. MW has been pretty useless so far - only the second time I'm seeing her this whole pregnancy - so I'm not expecting much. How come some people are having growth scans at 28 wks? I was told my next scan was around 33 wks?

mumoftwoboysS Tue 01-Oct-13 13:47:16

I completely forgot to ask my mw about the whooping cough jab and she didn't mention it!

rose yeah it's hard to know if it due to the vits or just a pregnancy 'one of those things' I do get IBS on and off so it could also be that triggered (usually by too much bread/wheat) and I did have a pizza last Friday (the biggest culprit but I was feeling good so thought what the hell) if staying off the vits for a few days doesn't help I'll try cutting out wheat (which I hate doing- wheat free bread is pretty gross) then see the doc if it's still not better.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 01-Oct-13 13:49:34

Oh and nom I found a quilting course not far away but they are charging £420 for it! Henley & Maslow are about an hour away- too far for an evening course unfortunately! Think I'll just try YouTube tutorials and self teaching and see how I go! Also want to learn to make/see other stuff and found a local course but it's already started so may have to wait till next year now.

Chilli81 Tue 01-Oct-13 14:01:16

Nom thanks so much for the sling advice. I bought a stretchy material one last time but didn't get on with it (partly because it was mid-summer and it made me so sweaty. Hopefully with a winter baby it will be better. I also ended up getting an ergo when DS1 was bout 6 months old. I have heard you can get a baby insert for them. Any views on that?
Rose I think it's worth finding out whether there have been outbreaks of Whooping Cough where you are moving to as that vaccine is to protect the baby once he's born (whereas the flu jab is for us during pregnancy iykwim. I think it's fairly recent that it's given here because of recent outbreak. I have to say I had my flu jab and WC jab on Friday and had no real symptoms apart from a bruised arm from the WC one.
Stom and whisper sorry to hear your backs are hurting. Have you tried doing child's pose to stretch out the lower back, bum and hips? I helps me loads.

froubylou Tue 01-Oct-13 14:44:59

Hello all

Just marking place and back later after school run!

LadyMedea Tue 01-Oct-13 15:25:39

I'd never touched a sewing machine until about 2 years ago but now I love quilting. I've made four crib quilts for friend's babies and a snuggle size quilt for the sofa.

I taught myself following tutorials on the internet so you don't necessarily need a class. I'd suggest starting with a kit for a pillow case. Even if it comes out less than perfect they still look lovely.

Clothing is the next thing I want to learn...

Wow, loads to catch up on!

Sorry to hear about those of you struggling with aches and pains, the pain in my hips that I was getting at night seems to be a bit easier these days not that I'm getting any more sleep

I am so glad I've only got 3 weeks left to work, all day today I got nothing but grief, normally it doesn't get to me but it did today, I had a pounding headache when I finished and it's a good job I wasn't getting my blood pressure checked! grin

Featherbag Tue 01-Oct-13 21:39:52

God, I am so utterly fucking knackered it defies belief. I woke at 2.30 this morning after 3 hours of sleep as I was being booted in the bladder, then lay awake until 4.20 worrying about things. Like, what if that pain wasn't baby kicking, what if it was the start of labour? Does the bed feel damp, have my waters started leaking, or is it just a cold patch on the sheet (it was just cold)? What will I do if I do go into labour in the next 4 weeks, at what point do I decide the risks to me from a VD are greater than the risks to baby from a CS? Ridiculous. Then DS woke up at 4.30 demanding to be in our bed, and by the time I got back to sleep I got 10 minutes before the alarm went off at 6 for my 12th shift before mat leave starts. Only 5 to go before another week's hols.

Then I got wrong off matron for not leaving my converse on instead of putting my black trainers on - my heartburn was so bad I hadn't dared bend forward to change shoes when I got to work! My head's stotting, and now DH is being nearly with me for being a bit ranty and slightly less than overjoyed with life when I got in half an hour ago. I hate being pregnant, gggrrrrrrrrr!!!

Featherbag Tue 01-Oct-13 21:40:53

Got wrong for leaving the converse on, not for not leaving them on!

Featherbag Tue 01-Oct-13 21:41:23

And DH is being narky, not nearly. Gah, I give up.

MildredH Tue 01-Oct-13 21:43:48

Feeling a bit less grumbly after a nice relaxed day off. Had a 3D scan this eve so got to say hi to Gizmo again which was a good reminder of why I'm having all these niggles!

Nom- thank you so much for the Lilypadz suggestion- mine arrives yesterday and I wore them for the first time today. So much more comfy than the sweaty old pads! Did have a small collection of liquid in them at the end of the day which I've just washed away- do you think I've applied them right?

Lisa- I had a day of feeling sniffly after my whooping cough jab.. Thought was coming down with something but luckily after a good sleep I felt much better the next day..

Chilli- I think you're right. This could well be SPD. I've only got 2 more weeks of work which I really want to get through. I'm a hospital doctor and still on the on call rota so on my feet all day. Does anyone know if carrying on working will make things worse? I think if I can just grit my teeth and get through it but obvs don't want to make anything worse..

Am going to go back to GP about physio referral I think.. Maybe ask MW- I don't know whether she maybe able to refer me?

MildredH Tue 01-Oct-13 21:59:51

Aw sorry cross posted with you Feather. Tell your matron to stick it- your Hosp must be running v smoothly if your footwear is all she's got to worry about!

A few weeks back I was accosted by some member of hospital management who told me I must wear a bumbag emblazoned with the trust logo. Apparently compulsory for all doctors. Not 7 month pregnant ones I told him. We had words. Nothing like knowing you're leaving in 2 weeks to make you not care what the "bosses" think.. Grrrr angry.

NomDeClavier Tue 01-Oct-13 22:13:12

Oh wow your trust is so fashionable mildred! Bumbags are not a good look. Re: lilypadz when you apply them you need to turn them inside out, the jab your finger with the pad on onto your nipple to push it in and smooth the rest so it create a seal. There is likely to be a tiny bit of leakage into the space it can't seal but it shouldn't escape.

feather I understood your rant <soothes stressed pregnant lady> DH is being unreasonable. Pregnancy is an excuse for being ranty, as is a crap day at work.

LadyMedea Tue 01-Oct-13 22:19:34

Hey mildred just ring your midwife and explain your symptoms and she'll refer you I would think, that is what mine did ... And yes standing will make it worse from my experience!

I've heard nowt about my physio referral and it's been ten days.... I think I might ring the physio dept tomorrow.

13loki Tue 01-Oct-13 22:53:22

Sat up late (it's almost mdnight here) marking because last week I had a day off with sick child, so am behind. Then we had an IT blackout at work, so I couldn't mark because I had no internet to translate the kids test answers, and no system to put the results into. Will be shattered tomorrow, bt have booked computer room for half my lessons, a video for another, so just have to deal with one experiment. 16 teaching days left (plus a total of 2 days inset) until holidays and then maternity leave.

The 37 week pregnant lady at work came and had unch with me "because we are both massive" Gee, thanks. I am measuring big, but it's nice that my bump has a strong enough gravitational field to pull in others!

Featherbag Tue 01-Oct-13 23:28:16

Nice to hear you've had a good scan Mildred! Does your trust not have self-referral to Physio via occ health? Most of the ones I know do, I just had to call and quote the magic 'P' word and got an appointment in 3 days!

kitty213 Wed 02-Oct-13 02:27:23

Hi everyone, i have just signed up to mumsnet, is this the club for being due in december?

I have just been to the hospital after having reduced fetal movement but heartbeat was great, they have asked me to go in tomorrow for a growth scan tho because my bump is measuring smaller than last time it was measured. Has this happened to anyone else? I will update tomorrow on what they say, hopefully everything is ok, first time pregnant so am worrying over it a lot confused

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 02:58:45

Hello kitty,

welcome. I don't have any experience of growth scans yet, but wanted to extend a supportive arm at 2:30 am!

my dp is sleeping with a cold, which means that I don't get to sleep at all.

I am just about to head to the sofa!

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 03:01:07

I currently have the baby adjusting position on the front and dp elbowing me from the back - and who said sleeping on the left was best!

ccsays Wed 02-Oct-13 05:25:04

Aah buggery bollocks. Guess I'm in the 5am club now then sad

MildredH Wed 02-Oct-13 06:29:10

Oh cc- me too!! Didn't think to look ok here for company as I assumed 'twas only me!

Been lying in bed for an hour trying not to wake DH. In the end got too hungry and have had to get up for some bran flakes!

MildredH Wed 02-Oct-13 06:32:53

Feather- sorry if I'm being dense.. What's the p word??



Will try our OH today but going on prev experience I shan't hold my breath!

Due to be on call today, Fri, Sat and Sun. Worried about 3 days on call on trot. Going to see medical staffing today to see whether they could maybe cover one of the weekend days with locum. Pretty sure they'll say bog off!

ccsays Wed 02-Oct-13 06:47:09

Copied and pasted from the night owl thread:

'I've been awake since four, went down to switch on the broadband at five. DP said "so I guess you're not sleeping then? I might start spending the odd night in the spare room, I've only had about two hours sleep". Me: "Why don't you go through just now? You've still got two hours before you have to get up". DP (sulkily): There's no point now" 5 mins of huffing later Me: "please just go through and get some sleep"

He's lovely the rest of the time, but gets SOOOO huffy when I keep him awake with my tossing and turning. It's not my fault he can get woken by a sparrow farting two miles away the slightest noise. And the sleep martyr bit ("noooo, it's fine! I'll just lie here and suffer!") drives me up the wall.'

Since posting that the cat has been going mental so I'm pretty sure he's awake now. I might make him some porridge and a coffee, I feel quite guilty. (The cat automatically becomes 'your cat' when he's being a shit, as opposed to 'the cat')

Also, I think the p word is pregnant Mildred grin

MildredH Wed 02-Oct-13 06:56:20

Oh- pregnant. Yes. That's fairly obvious isn't it! Yeesh. I wonder if physio could do anything for my brain whilst I'm there. confused

itsliz Wed 02-Oct-13 07:12:28

Haha, for a second there cc I thought you meant you were going to make some porridge and coffee for the cat! grin

5am club for me too, although it was closer to 2am this time. Woke DP up by getting up to go to the loo, which made him grumpy for all of about 5 mins until he fell straight back to sleep.
Dozed off again eventually but ended up waking up with DP when his alarm went off for work at 6.

Being unemployed and having no money is rubbish, but it does mean that I can go back to bed for a bit now...!

Featherbag Wed 02-Oct-13 07:26:05

I asked ours if they have brains etc. in a spare parts cupboard, but apparently not hmm

ccsays Wed 02-Oct-13 07:45:03

itslz Yes, looking back that sentence doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? grin

Made DP a coffee and porridge (which makes him feel guilty about being such a sleep grump, heh) and we had a bit of a laugh about it, so all's well. He looks really tired though, I feel quite guilty, especially as today's a day off for me confused

PistachioTruffle Wed 02-Oct-13 07:55:02

I couldn't work out what the 'p' word was either, at least I'm not the only one haha!

Mildred, I hope you manage to get your shift covered!

Sleep has been slightly better the last couple of nights, I'm still waking 3-4 times plus but managing to drop back off instead of lying awake (probably through sheer exhaustion, I'll probably be back in the 5 o'clock club tomorrow)

My skin is terrible at the moment, both flaky and dry AND really spotty hmm

I can't really be bothered to do anything either, unless its shopping for baby stuff which I can't afford at present.

froubylou Wed 02-Oct-13 08:12:15

Morning all

Well touch wood I have slept quite well for me the last few nights. Dozed off around 10am then awake about 4.30am, DP's alarm goes off at 5am, he leaves around 5.45am and I drift back off until 7am. Its still awake a lot earlier than what I would like BUT at least I'm not up at 2am, 3am, 4am etc etc. I usually have a wee, a sip of water then play on candycrush then MN then FB then another forum I use then drift off lol.

Feel so much better for blitzing house properly yesterday. Been decorating kitchen/diner for 2 weekends so it's been a bit upside down and not much point dusting etc when the dining room table is in the lving room. But all clean and shiny and tidy now and loving the new kitchen. Actually done some baking 2 days on the trot lol. So much nicer to be in that I actually want to be in here!

For all you sewing enthusiasts I noticed Aldi had some decent sized packs of thread and sewing kits in yesterday as well as some wool? Didnt notice the price of the wool but the sewing kits were £3.49 which was good value for what you got. Wish I was 'crafty'. Am rubbish at anything like that and really wish I could use a sewing machine and 'run up' my own curtains etc. My MIL was brill at it and was going to teach me but she died before we got around to it.

I did want to mention somebody but can't go back a page to see who it was lol.

We're a bit skint too. Sigh. Be OK next week but I have to work to a budget this weekend. I'm really good at it but DP is rubbish lol. So need to be firm with him. It's nice to go out shopping and stuff and wander around and pick up any bargains but when you just don't have the spare cash you don't have it.

Still have the pram to get, as well as a few other bits and pieces. Seen a Mothercare Xtreme I think it is in the outlet near me for £140 instead of £400. Doesn't have the carrycot which I did want but does lay all the way back. Have decided to get a chunky 3 wheeler travel system for the winter months and going to the ponies and to shows next year, and then invest in a smarter umbrella style buggy for summer. Loved my maclaren when DD was a baby so think I'm going for one of them when baby is old enough to sit up a bit. So don't want to spend a lot on the travel system.

Wish I had a spare £140 quid to get that one to be honest as it is quite smart and will do the job I want it to do. Bet when I have some cash I don't see anything lol.

Off to see if I can squash in any of my coats. Sigh. Its pissing down here and I never got around to buying one. Fuck. Can see the school run being in the car this morning!

NomDeClavier Wed 02-Oct-13 08:32:37

Hi kitty good luck for the growth scan.

Sounds like you have a serious case of p-brain mildred! I agree occy health should be all over you the minute you mention it.

cc my DH does the martyr thing too. Ugh. I've told him in no uncertain terms this time if I tell him to go and sleep elsewhere the he needs to go and bloody well do do. There is no point both of us being overtired.

The guy next door was beating his dog last night and then he shut it outside so it's been whining and howling since then. Poor thing sad I really need to find out whether here's somewhere I can report it too. It sounds almost human sad

Day 3 of being semi-housebound. Bare bottom potty training might work but I don't see how we'll ever leave the house again. I've managed to introduce DS to the concept that Mummy is tired so he'll play with his cars beside me in bed while I snooze a bit more. Can't wait until they're old enough to get up, pour themselves cereal and switch the TV on by themselves <evil grin> or DS is old enough to babysit his siblings. How old do you reckon before that happens - 5? 6? grin

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 08:43:11

I managed to get back to sleep! But not sure how good it was. DP briefly woke up this morning and was immediately grumpy. He is really crap when he is poorly, and he called me a bad patient! He is asleep again now. Fingers crossed he can fight this cold. He can take all the drugs!

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 09:34:27

Morning all.

Sorry to those that aren't sleeping... I slept ok but had to get up to pee several times.. And both my arms feel like mike Tyson has punched me due to the jabs yesterday ... Mw rang I passed the GTT test woo smile and my iron levels are really good. May celebrate with cake haha.. Going to see my great uncle today as he's not been well since his op... Then off to the range to have a mooch...

DD keep scarring me and only doing small movements.. I haven't felt her this morning yet but been in bed so going to have a shower and try the cold drink and lying on my side thing...

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 09:40:37

Congrats on your test results. I have my 28 week appt this Friday.

My stupid cold has now migrated to my chest which makes me sound like a 20 a day smoker!

mumoftwoboysS Wed 02-Oct-13 10:15:11

Morning! I didn't sleep too badly-woke @ 4 when ds1 said he had lost his teddy, went for a wee, then had to getup for another wee at 6.30!

nom how's the potty training going then? I tried with ds2 a few days ago and nothing then this morning he said he wanted to use the potty and did a big poo in it- the first time he's done anything in it! I was almost crying with joy (god, pregnancy hormones) so now thinking maybe he is ready to do it! Have to go out this morning tho so can't do the housebound thing-it's harder with the second one-we need to go on the school run later so can't just stay in for 3 days solid. May have to use pull ups tho don't really agree with them.

Good start to the day ESP as our new car was delivered too -woohoo! Well DH will be driving it mostly as it's a replacement for his company car but I'll get to use it sometimes and @ weekends- it's a 7 seater so I really feel like a suburban housewife with 2.4 kids now! (Well almost 3!)

Nom that poor dog- where are you living? You should be able to alert the RSPCA?

violetbean Wed 02-Oct-13 10:33:24

Hey all,

Just write a long post and phone swallowed it, argh!

Welcome kitty, hope growth scan went well. The bump measurements are weird. One midwife measured my bump from only just above my belly button and said I was measuring small. 2 weeks later another midwife measured from practically underneath my boobs and said it was measuring perfect. She didn't do much feeling around for the fundus thing so no idea what to think, but am just going with the flow!

Congrats on the GTT result Stom! My arm was red, painful and a bit swollen for 5 days after the whooping cough jab but is absolutely fine now. Glad I had it done. Flu jab next week, joy!

Frouby hope you didn't get too wet on the school run.

Had a rough night's sleep too, very vivid, confusing dream - one of those ones where when you wake up you can't work out if it actually happened. Hope those with insomnia have a chance to rest today, I'm definitely going to take it easy.

Think Nom is in France so no RSPCA - may be wrong though?

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 10:42:40

Thanks smile it's not red or swollen I just have a little dot where the needle went but my god does it hurt lol. Lifting my arm up hurts lol.. The flu jab arm is fine just hurts abit to lay on it.

DP is off to Budapest on sunday for a 2 nights on a stagdo... I ddon't know why but this time I'm really worried.. Cos he'll be drinking loads and he's in a foreign country.... Though it's not different to the one he went on in June.. They're staying in the same place and everything...

WhisperMen Wed 02-Oct-13 11:13:21

Hey everyone,

I am in a horrendous mood today. Everywhere aches, really bad indigestion and I am exhausted but can't sleep because I am in too much pain.

Just had a shower to see if it helped the pain and now I feel fresher but even more exhausted.

Does anyone want to shoot me? I would be most greatful.

kitty213 Wed 02-Oct-13 11:33:54

oh thanks pink803 i didn't expect anyone to be awake so didn't check back, i have my growth scan at 2pm so am looking forward to seeing her again, ill let you know how it goes smile

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 11:39:18

No worries Kitty, being awake most of the time is my new superpower. Only all my other abilities such as thinking and functioning have been reduced to dust.

LadyMedea Wed 02-Oct-13 12:37:22

For everyone suffering from aches and pains I recommend one of these www.amazon.co.uk/Opal-Cherry-Stone-Thermal-Pillow/dp/B0027MDO8Y/ref=pd_sim_sbs_beauty_2

Like a wheat bag but I think they hold the heat better and they don't stink of lavender (I hate lavender) and they can even go in the washing machine if you spill chocolate angel delight on them. This shape is segmented too so works great for necks and lower backs.

MrsShrubs Wed 02-Oct-13 12:43:25

welcome kitty when are you due? Do you know what you are having?

Had a hormone break down last night, was fine for most of the evening and then started getting a bit ratty, covered my stretchmarks in cream and started to get really really ratty over them and then OH accidently jabbed me in the boob and I just burst into floods and floods of tears, it didn't even really hurt so I've no idea why that set me off. Poor guy didn't know what was going on!

Luckily I'm not doing too badly on the sleeping front at the moment, just having to get up once to go to the loo, fingers crossed it stays that way up until we have little one here waking us up!

kchapper5 Wed 02-Oct-13 12:59:59

Afternoon all!
frouby I've gone for a 3 wheeler for the stables too.
Welcome kitty hope your scan goes well.
mrsshrubs I had a similar meltdown over my weight gain the other day so big hugs on the way to you smile
My current ailment is lower ab/ pubis area pain it feels musculature but every form of movement hurts going to sit down walking rolling over when I'm trying to sleep. I'm going to mention it to my mw at the next appointment but I've got a 29 week one not a 28 sad

froubylou Wed 02-Oct-13 13:00:40

Well anyone that feels shitty is welcome to mine to come and eat some of this yummy-even-if-I-do-say-so-myself cake.

Having a bakewell theme today. Done a big tart for after tea, a dozen small ones to use the last bit of pastry up and then some strawberry marbled fairy cakes to use the last of the mix up.

Just waiting for the little ones to cool down enough for me to check they are as nice as they smell lol.

What I ought to be doing is cleaning the windows inside. But can't reach half of them so waiting til DP gets in to help.

Once this lot of baking is out to oven might be snooze time lol.

WhisperMen Wed 02-Oct-13 13:04:10

ooh frouby that sounds lovely. I wanted to bake today but I don't have the stuff I need and DP took the bank card so I can't go and get them. I'll just have to make do with eating crisps.

froubylou Wed 02-Oct-13 13:04:27

kchapper which one did you go for? I know from experiance that they get a bit battered, not to mention muddy and shitty lol so don't want to spend too much on one. It was either get a decent travel system to use from birth and for best, then a cheapy 3 wheeler off ebay or something for the yard, or spend a bit more on a decent buggy later to save for home and best and relegate travel system to yard.

We intend to be back out showing april time so it needs to be pushable across fields etc. As well as warm enough for the school run over winter when baby is tiny.

Not much to ask for lol.

kchapper5 Wed 02-Oct-13 13:41:08

We went for the cosatto giggle travel system thankfully paid for by my parents. I definitely wanted something sturdy as hopefully either myself or the girl I've just part loaned my mare too will be taking her out to do the late hunt season and then back on the local riders club jumping.
whisper if you do get round to baking please send some my way smile

Roselau Wed 02-Oct-13 15:20:45

i've been really busy today but do not worry, I have now hopped on the 4am train... woke up at 4:16am and could not fall back asleep because of stupid anxieties so featherbag you are not alone. plus baby girl was dancing the jig in there. fell back asleep around 6am only to have my alarm ring at 630.

anyways, while i don't have severe money troubles like some of you, it will still be a big adjustment to go from two salaries to one, and the new job my DH took in the US is paying much less than what he was making here. Thankfully we have savings, but I was hoping to keep them for a downpayment on a house at some point... I am 31 so it would be nice to own a place. But the world has decided otherwise for us. so I'm just rolling with it.

jealous kchapper that your parents are pitching in. My parents are nice and generous in some ways, but quite cheap in others. I think I have pissed my mom off by moving to the US, so they definitely wont contribute to anything because they will feel like their contribution is them coming to visit. not really fair but I hate talking about money things to them so I'm just going to let it go. My MIL is super generous, but she's not buying the stuff we need and i dont know how to tell her. she keeps buying little dresses, and i'd so much rather help with a crib / car seat / stroller etc.

OK off to MW appointment - hopefully it's a bit less useless than last time.

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 15:59:51

Having a proper hormonal moment and all I wana do it balk my eyes out. So tucked into a box of malteasers lol.
Been invited to a masquerade party. I hope dp. Let's us go. I'm really excited as I've always wanted to go to One. I'll be 36 week by then but think it'll do. US good to have a night out before dd arrives x

MrsShrubs Wed 02-Oct-13 16:15:07

thanks kchapper!

Competely feel for you stom just when you think the hormones are under control the crying wants to break out! Def do you some good to have a night out before dd arrives and let your hair down, even if you only go for a couple of hours.

Frouby cake is exactly what I need right now, that all sounds amazing!

Hope MW goes okay rose

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 17:03:27

Thats what i was thinking MrsShrubs they have reserved all the rooms in the hotel so going to try book a room that way if i get tired I can go to bed and dp can stay and have a good time. smile and i wont feel so guilty.

MrsShrubs Wed 02-Oct-13 17:52:57

Sounds like a plan to me smile

BohemianRaspberry Wed 02-Oct-13 18:15:09

We're all having crap days today it seems!

I've managed to bugger up every lesson today the kids have been off the wall. Also, p-brain has kicked in which means I keep mixing up my words and typing so I end up looking stupid. This means it's taking me forever to plan lessons.

Also, not-terribly-tactful colleague slammed an exemplar essay I had written (in a topic that I thought I was good at) and then proceeded to make it up to me by telling me how wonderful his lessons were going and would I like all his stuff instead. In floods of tears doesn't even cover my reaction to this, it just felt like such a demotion.

I'm trying so hard to maintain my working persona but this has just completely shattered any thoughts I had of being good at my job. I know in my heart of hearts that that is exaggerating but that's how it feels at the moment.

Plus Junior has decided to increase the movements into full on kicks, twists and punches. I should be happy but just in pain now.

MrsShrubs Wed 02-Oct-13 18:22:51

bohemian I can't believe he said that, that's horrible!!! Sending huge hugs your way!! Try not to take it to heart, some people like being mean for means sake because they enjoy making people miserable. I'm sure you're a wonderful teacher and that the kids are lucky to have you. Try and take time out tonight to pamper yourself, even if it's an extra long soak in the tub.

Just thinking about holidays for next year as the parents and in laws want to go away as a group, would 4 hours be too long to have a 7month old on a plane??

WhisperMen Wed 02-Oct-13 18:31:54

I have just been informed that PIL have booked two lodges at centre parks in the middle of january. This is because we live near there and it means that all the relatives can come and see the baby. I honestly don't think this will be a good idea. If peanut is overdue it could end up being a January baby and even if it is born on the 19th then I really don't think I would be up for a week away. DP says it'll be fine and it will mean there's loads of childcare so I can catch up on sleep. hmm

bohemian that sucks that he said that to you. Some people are just so callous and cruel it baffles me. How can people be so rude and not realise? I bet you're a wonderful teacher. Like mrsShrubs says, give yourself a break. Pregnancy is bloody hard work and so is being a teacher. The combination of the two must be horrible. Have a long bath and put your cosiest jammies on and pig out on chocolate infront of a chick flick.

NomDeClavier Wed 02-Oct-13 18:38:09

mrsshrubs I'd say no, but DS has been flying since the age of 3m and came to the UK for Christmas (that was 10hrs plus 1hr from where we lived) at 8m. They're almost easier at that age.

bohemian what a prat. If he had issues with the exemplar essay there are more tactful ways to offer improvements and offer a hand.

I have a horrid suspicion the place I used to teach are expecting me to be teaching tomorrow afternoon. Someone remind me to call them in the morning. It's not a huge issue but I need someone else to pick DS up from nursery if I am hmm or risk being late. Or leave class early.

The masquerade ball sounds like great fun, stom! Go for it grin

I want maltesers. And cake.

NomDeClavier Wed 02-Oct-13 18:40:57

Oh gosh whisper <slow typist, me> I had my ILs and the my family to stay 2 and 6 weeks after DS was born and I was barely in a state to leave he house let alone go for a week away. Also if you're anything like me you won't want help with childcare and unless you're bottle feeding no amount of extra hands is going to let you sleep! How about they stay there and come and visit you?

Featherbag Wed 02-Oct-13 18:50:59

Whisper, I wouldn't be having that, DON'T let yourself be railroaded into a week with relatives when you've a newborn, you'll hate it and by the end of the week you'll hate them too!

I'm still in a shitty mood. Just had a little tea party for DS's birthday, was only sandwiches and cake and family, but my DM was being really weird, very 'off', then attempted to piss off before we'd even sung happy birthday and blown candles out. I think my DGPs (who are a nightmare to deal with at the best of times, although I'm sure deep down they mean well) had said/done something to upset my DM and/or DB, and as a consequence they all left. Leaving my very hard work DGPs behind for me to deal with. So I'd put in what felt like a Herculean effort to put on this party when it was the last thing I could be arsed with, couldn't eat any of the food as my heartburn's so bad, then ended up in floods of tears because everyone was being so off. And I've got loads and loads of party food left, which is just looking at me and begging me to eat it, but it feel too sick. I seem to have spent all day preparing for the party, and it was shit, and I'm back in work for the next 2 days so won't even see DS again until Saturday. I'm fed up.

DS has had a fab day though, he was allowed to have chips for dinner and chocolate and crackers for tea, plus got so many presents we've had to put some away for the weekend to avoid over-excited toddler meltdown!

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 19:53:03

Hmm bit F**cked off if im honest.... I said to dp about the ball. And stayin in the hotel as it's our last time we can have a night away together.. It only 10 miles up the. Road if that but itlit'll be nice to have a night away from this freezing flat and it'll end the night nicely. Especially if i feel tired and wana go to bed he can stay and i wont feel guilty.... But he said we will see which in dps terms means no.... His excuse was we have lots of money this going on. And we will need to book a room for his cousins wedding thats in FEBRUARY! .

He has been on 2 stag do's this year with our savings... And i hhaven't been anywhere except feelin being stuck in this flat feeling crap from being pregnant.... It would be nice for 1 night to have a nice night with friends and then not have to worry about getting home etc... Would be nice if he saw stuff from my view for a change.... He said he would take me away for my birthday but he's going on a stag do instead so that's not going to happen...

Sorry for ranting... Just really wanted to have a last night away before dd arrives. But yet again he gets what he wants (to go abroad and get pissed with his mates) and i get to sit alone in the flat. Great.

Featherbag Wed 02-Oct-13 19:55:52

Why aren't you just TELLING him that you'll be booking the night away? And if it impacts on his stag do fund, he'll just have to make it up from somewhere else?

kchapper5 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:04:41

Stom thats sucks, i think at last night away together would be lovely. hopefully he will realise how much hes been away and how much it means to you and come round to the idea.
Whisper I would hate that, holidays with relatives etc is my idea of hell.
feather hope you cheer up soon, at least your DS had a wonderful time smile
Rose It is lovely that they buy things for us but unfortunately its what i refer to as guilt money, I had a rubbish childhood and have a very difficult relationship with my mother, so they buy me and now bump things to try and make up for it. And will also use it to try and claim time with bump when its here.

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:08:06

Hes paid for his stag do etc... We have a credit card we don't owe anything on it and the night away will be £90 so I was thinking I could put it on the credit card now. And we'd have that paid in 2 months...
I can't tell him I'm doing that because he will go nuts... And just have a go at me. He all ways does when I suggest going away.... We can't afford it black black but we can afford 2 stag do's .. The one he went on in June and the one he's going on next week. Hes spend £200 on flights both times and £200on spending money that's £800 near enough and all I wana do it spend £90 on a nice night away for me to spend with him! Argggg

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:14:29

Bla bla**

Featherbag Wed 02-Oct-13 20:16:03

Well I made the stupid mistake of ringing my DM to as wtf was going on - she was clearly in one when she got here, but said she felt no one was talking to anyone else and she was sick of making the effort (she only stayed 45 minutes), that DH and FIL were being rude by drinking and not offering anyone else a drink (they had one bottle of beer each, and alcohol wasn't offered as no one EVER says yes please when it is) although DH made everyone tea or coffee as soon as they arrived. She said I was being quiet (I've felt like hammered shit all day, it was all I could do to paste a smile on my face without vomiting) and she was having to do all the work as the whole atmosphere was awkward. I could barely respond, she was very aggressive, and she's usually super-nice and supportive, I really don't know what she was on about as I didn't pick up any of what she said she felt! Anyway, that was shortly after my last post and I've been sobbing since, I feel so wretchedly miserable and even more pathetically all I can think is that it's just so unfair! My head's splitting now too, and I still can't eat.

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:21:39

Featherbag sorry to hear DM can be a pain in the arse .. Sometimes . Hopefully she'll come round and apologise...... DP just asked me if I want anymore more money i said no and he said are you sure so I saidiI'd rather spend it on a night away at he party.... He just went quiet and has gone for a cigarette. So who knows. :/

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:25:42

Dont want to scare anyone but according to watchdog the cosatto giggles pram is not safe as it collapses while baby is still in it. Just to warn anyone that maybe thinking of getting one xx

BohemianRaspberry Wed 02-Oct-13 20:34:02

I saw that stom - scary! I think I'm looking at a Britax, Oyster or Quinny (got everything else half price, dammit I want a new travel system).

Stom91 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:38:20

I've got the mammas and pappas 9 in 1 thing second had from a friend but it looks brand new smile

Yeah i haven't watched it just seen it on Facebook... Awful that they get away with making such awful things.

kchapper5 Wed 02-Oct-13 20:44:04

I've seen it Stom and we've got one, according to the manufacturer its been fixed on the new models. And has a 4 year guarantee so the moment anything goes wrong it'll be going back.

Xenadog Wed 02-Oct-13 20:58:30

Evening ladies. Just read through a mammoth session of posts and I feel really cross on some people's behalf.

Stom I would forget staying over for the ball (although still go) and then book yourself into a spa for sometime in February when you feel ready for a day or so away and leave DP with bambino. A whole 24 hours of being pampered because you need it and tell him to go and do some overtime to pay for it!

Whisper you aren't responsible for what PiL are doing but you do have control over what you do. I would just be telling them they can do whatever they like but as you are the mother of a new-born you will only be doing something if it suits you - no plans or agreements to anything until the day so if you don't want visitors you won't be having any. Others can whistle if they don't like it.

Bohemian I work with a tosser like the one you described. He is newly promoted and thinks he is the bee's knees telling everyone how great he is. I have warned him I am hormonal so he'd best leave me alone and then if someone dares ask for anything which I think is stupid I tell them: "I don't give a shit!" So far it's worked like a dream! My tosser wants to do a lesson obs on me next week when I am more than 30 weeks pg - like I need that hassle! Hmm not sure which way I will play that one!

Featherbag Hope you are feeling brighter now - family's can be such a pain can't they.

To all the ladies who are struggling with sleep I hope you all get a good night tonight!

BohemianRaspberry Wed 02-Oct-13 21:09:31

Thanks xena think he's trying to play big man on campus but I still have to face him.

Only problem is I've cried so hard, I now feel miserably ill.

Xenadog Wed 02-Oct-13 21:15:06

Bohemian you need to calm down and remember this is about this tosser's ego and not about you. I suggest you thank him for his "help" and then ignore him. You can't have too long to go and really it's just a case of Keep Buggering On (to quote Churchill) and only worrying about the things that really matter.

Hang in there, lovely - this idiot is just a carbuncle on your otherwise lovely life. xx

Tulipsandbuttercups Wed 02-Oct-13 21:29:54

Hi all, Can I join this thread?

I'm due 27th December, (the day before my birthday) with our 1st. We didnt find out what we are having, can't wait for the surprise.

Not sleeping very well at all as it seems when I try to sleep, baby decides to wake up, little pickle lol


Deya Wed 02-Oct-13 22:06:03

Hi Tulips! Welcome! I'm now watching my belly dance - will give my little man some time to throw himself around before I attempt sleep!

As for everyone else - Gosh! All those annoying relatives/colleagues/partners and things they come up with! My head hurts after reading. And my own annoying mother just adds to that. I try to explain to her that she can come visit for two weeks when baby is about two months ( I don't think I could handle any extended stays before that). She always tries to turn it into two months stay when baby is about two weeks. Noooooooo!

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:07:07

Of course, welcome.

You are not alone with the sleep thing. I am one of the many who also have sleep challenges! So might see you at some strange time between now and tom morning!

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:13:58

tulip we didn't find out the sex either. We did ask the sonographer to write the sex on a card which we've sealed in an envelope with a copy of the scan. I didn't want the tempation of trying to guess from the picture

Deya Wed 02-Oct-13 22:24:06

Those scan pictures are pretty sex-guess proof. All the sticky out bits had to be pointed out to me by the sonographer on the screen grin
I wish you a good stretch of sleep tonight Pink

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:40:58

I am just too curious. I would be trying to guess like a cheeky child looking under the christmas tree for my pressies smile

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:42:03

Thank you for the good sleep vibes ;)

LadyMedea Wed 02-Oct-13 22:42:28

I've now passed through that pregnancy rite of passage of a trip to triage for reduced movement. Twiglet was just being a lazy so and so and is fine. At least we got a sneak peak at delivery suite as my hospital doesn't do tours. And I now have my own pair of monitor straps.

PinkWitch803 Wed 02-Oct-13 23:38:03

lady Glad is ok with LO. I hope you can feel assured now. Until the next challenge pregnancy throws at you/us smile

abcdemma Thu 03-Oct-13 00:04:38

I'm the same Lady, kinda glad we got a sneak peak at the delivery suite etc as it takes out an extra stress element when the time comes wink
Just come back from my first full day at work in nearly 2 weeks and I ache all over lol. Bought some deep heat to help me get through my mammoth next few shifts as my back was so bad I was almost limping... kinda like a Mrs John Wayne envy But bambino was nice and active so now chuckling at my stomach rippling all over whilst DP plays on fifa...

kitty213 Thu 03-Oct-13 01:10:08

back on here at 1am lol the night owl that i am, thanks for welcomes ladies - im having a little girl on the 2nd december smile

I had my growth scan today and everything is looking great, in fact she has turned from breech to head down which is why i felt a difference in movements so im pleased. I am happy to say that she is measuring at a healthy 4lb 5oz and is set to be about 8lb 3oz by her due date! Am really happy and they will rescan me in 2 weeks to do another check to put my mind at rest and then put me back to community midwives. Midwife told me that my little lady is putting most weight on her belly, they checked the umbilical cord and fluid levels which were all perfectly normal. She has her bum sticking up and her legs and arms are all grouped together on my right side, nice to know exactly where she was smile

Anyway i can stop fretting now which is the main thing. Phew, being my first i just dont have anything to compare this pregnancy with. Feeling a very happy mommy now grin

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 03:14:51

Congratulations kitty. It sounds like a nice reward for any anxiety you felt

kchapper5 Thu 03-Oct-13 04:08:26

Welcome tulip I'm due 30th and didn't find out either smile aww lovely news kitty.
Apparently 5am has become 4 sad

Featherbag Thu 03-Oct-13 06:53:55

DS was awake at 4am shout in 'oh God!!! Poo!' And poo indeed there was. Everywhere.

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 06:56:43

What a lovely wake up call featherbag. You must have been so proud ! ;/

Xenadog Thu 03-Oct-13 07:06:30

Oh dear Feather hope you got back to sleep once the poo was dealt with!

That's great news kitty you can definitely relax now and enjoy the last weeks.

As for the 5am club I was woken at 4.30am with the worst cramping in my calf ever. DP woke up to me rolling around in bed screaming and it must have been a bit like Linda Blair in "The Exorcist!" It still hurts now so wondering if anyone has any advice for how to deal with cramps as I have never had them.

Anyway have a good day all and welcome tulip.

Roselau Thu 03-Oct-13 07:52:15

kitty that is great that you had a growth scan and feel reassured!
heard LO's hb at the midwife yesterday so I'm reassured for a few days, but then I have a doctor's appointment as soon as I get to the states next week on Thursday. so shoudl all be ok.
xena i've had the exact same thing happen a month or so ago. My DH didnt know what to do was googling furiously and finally through stretching and him massaging it, it sort of went away. I hear it could be low potassium but in general they mostly dont know why it happens.

I love how we are all migrating to 4AM club. It was once again 416 for me (two days in a row the exact same time. weird). but whatever. two more work days. i can soooo do this!

kchap hmmm yeah that taints the presents a bit in this situation. totally am with you on the rocky mom relationship. same with mine... at least enjoy the presents smile

EmB1715 Thu 03-Oct-13 09:25:14

hi ladies.. Can I join? I'm due 5th December. Currently struggling with SPD, so could do with joining others at the same stage!

Featherbag Thu 03-Oct-13 09:26:16

Hi Em, I have the same EDD and SPD, nearly there though! Do you have other DCs?

EmB1715 Thu 03-Oct-13 09:29:54

smile yes not long to go now. No, this is my first!

Featherbag Thu 03-Oct-13 09:36:57

I've got DS, 2yo, can't wait for newborn cuddles again, especially in front of Christmas tree smile

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 09:53:19

Wow, lots of newbies joining us! Hello to you all.

really craving chicken nuggets and mayo this morning. That's not an acceptable breakfast is it? I'll just have to have my boring porridge. It does smell like christmas though which is pretty nice grin

29 weeks today and suddenly it's all feeling real. I really don't think I am ready to be a mum. I forget to feed myself most days, I can't be in charge of another human being!

I too am part of the newly formed 4am club. Woke up at 4am on the dot. So frustrating when you're exhausted but can't sleep. It doesn't make sense.

PistachioTruffle Thu 03-Oct-13 10:10:18

Whisper, I had a mince pie for breakfast this morning, I'm really not qualified to comment on what is and is not suitable breakfast food! grin
I know what you mean about it suddenly feeling much more real thi

Welcome to

PistachioTruffle Thu 03-Oct-13 10:17:06

Aggh stupid fat fingers! What I was trying to say was: I know what you mean about it suddenly feeling very real, I had a moment this week where I suddenly remembered I'm going to have a real life baby, and felt a bit scared (this is despite the fact we have an almost finished nursery full of baby gear, so you'd think it would be obvious!)

Welcome to the newly joined December ladies flowers

I've been lurking in the Christmas bargains thread, and they have links for a free fisher price baby rattle and nuby soother, baby spoon or nappy cream. I've just signed up, at the minute free is definitely good! If anyone wants me to repost the links here let me know.

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 10:38:30

Today it is National Poetry day, so I thought I would share with you guys my all time favourite poem. It's called "if I should have a daughter/PointB" and it's by Sarah Kay. You can listen to her reading it here

or here is the whole text if you can't watch it...

"If I should have a daughter…“Instead of “Mom”, she’s gonna call me “Point B.” Because that way, she knows that no matter what happens, at least she can always find her way to me. And I’m going to paint the solar system on the back of her hands so that she has to learn the entire universe before she can say “Oh, I know that like the back of my hand.”

She’s gonna learn that this life will hit you, hard, in the face, wait for you to get back up so it can kick you in the stomach. But getting the wind knocked out of you is the only way to remind your lungs how much they like the taste of air. There is hurt, here, that cannot be fixed by band-aids or poetry, so the first time she realizes that Wonder-woman isn’t coming, I’ll make sure she knows she doesn’t have to wear the cape all by herself. Because no matter how wide you stretch your fingers, your hands will always be too small to catch all the pain you want to heal. Believe me, I’ve tried.

And “Baby,” I’ll tell her “don’t keep your nose up in the air like that, I know that trick, you’re just smelling for smoke so you can follow the trail back to a burning house so you can find the boy who lost everything in the fire to see if you can save him. Or else, find the boy who lit the fire in the first place to see if you can change him.”

But I know that she will anyway, so instead I’ll always keep an extra supply of chocolate and rain boats nearby, ‘cause there is no heartbreak that chocolate can’t fix. Okay, there’s a few heartbreaks chocolate can’t fix. But that’s what the rain boots are for, because rain will wash away everything if you let it.

I want her to see the world through the underside of a glass bottom boat, to look through a magnifying glass at the galaxies that exist on the pin point of a human mind. Because that’s how my mom taught me. That there’ll be days like this, “There’ll be days like this my momma said” when you open your hands to catch and wind up with only blisters and bruises. When you step out of the phone booth and try to fly and the very people you wanna save are the ones standing on your cape. When your boots will fill with rain and you’ll be up to your knees in disappointment and those are the very days you have all the more reason to say “thank you,” ‘cause there is nothing more beautiful than the way the ocean refuses to stop kissing the shoreline no matter how many times it’s sent away.

You will put the “wind” in win some lose some, you will put the “star” in starting over and over, and no matter how many land mines erupt in a minute be sure your mind lands on the beauty of this funny place called life.

And yes, on a scale from one to over-trusting I am pretty damn naive but I want her to know that this world is made out of sugar. It can crumble so easily but don’t be afraid to stick your tongue out and taste it.

“Baby,” I’ll tell her “remember your mama is a worrier but your papa is a warrior and you are the girl with small hands and big eyes who never stops asking for more.”

Remember that good things come in threes and so do bad things and always apologize when you’ve done something wrong but don’t you ever apologize for the way your eyes refuse to stop shining.

Your voice is small but don’t ever stop singing and when they finally hand you heartbreak, slip hatred and war under your doorstep and hand you hand-outs on street corners of cynicism and defeat, you tell them that they really ought to meet your mother."

13loki Thu 03-Oct-13 12:03:34

Morning! Welcome em

Midwife told me off this morning for not eating breakfast so I went and bought 4 apple and cinnamon muffins before going back to work. And ate 3 of them. She also measured me and at 31+4 I am 36 cm. so then there was the "hmmm, I'm just going to speak to the doctor" followed by me sitting in the midwives office waiting. In he ends he decided to leave it until next time after the doctor was busy and she talked to a few other midwives.

Then a student fell down the stairs at work and I was the only adult around so I ran up the stairs to check on her. I now have taken painkillers and am considering asking someone to cover my last lesson. I can't get cover now because we are doing practical work and there's no science teacher free. I want to cry. To make it worse, the silly child got up, said I'm OK and walked off! She could have at least hurt herself!!!!

MrsShrubs Thu 03-Oct-13 12:14:16

Welcome tulip & em smile

Had the worst nightmare last night about baby boy and it was so vivid, I woke up in such a state and its still hanging around with me now. So sleepy because I didn't sleep too well afterwards but I was reassured after a couple of minutes of waking up from it by some kicking and wriggling.

13loki oh no that's horrible, if you're in pin I'd definitely try and get cover, don't want to make yourself any worse. Hope you manage to sort something out!!

pistachio def post a couple of links, free is always good in my books!!!

MrsShrubs Thu 03-Oct-13 12:15:02

in pain* not pin

kchapper5 Thu 03-Oct-13 13:35:34

welcome em smile
rose it's all I've ever known so doesn't really bother me too much I occasionally have a meltdown and think I'm gonna turn out like her as a parent but then I get over it smile and I enjoy the presents in the mean time.
I love how we've all graduated to the 4am
Club little things keep me amused at the moment.
Oo definitely post the links pistachio love a freebie smile

Roselau Thu 03-Oct-13 15:33:06

ah kchapper turning out like my mother is one of my biggest fears in life! but at the end of the day, I know I will try so hard to not replicate her behaviour that I will just fall in other traps. So I will just do my best and I try not to freak out about it.

mumoftwoboysS Thu 03-Oct-13 16:38:19

Me too (worried about turning out like my mother) but then if we're worried about it that means we probably won't!!

This thread is flying- so much to catch up on and it's only been a day or so!!

Had my flu jab this morning, blood test @ lunch and they offered to do my whooping cough jab too but I drew the line at having another needle in me today!

Having major aches and pains (feels like sciatica down my right leg but only goes to the knee) and a dodgy clicking sound in my pelvis when I walk! (And that's on top of the throbbing pain of varicose veins) I'm worried as I don't know how I'm going to get through 12 more weeks of this!....

God I'm starving too, haven't eaten much today but bloated with gas so don't feel like I can! Argh!..

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 17:18:25

I made scoth drop pancakes for breakfast (well I made the mixture and DP cooked them) served with golden syrup or sugar and lemon. We mixed sultanas in sone of the pancakes, so didn't fancy chocolate! Perhaps tomorrow! If it isn't too naughty. Plus I baked a madeira cake, yum.

Then I started a course of antibiotics for a chest infection! But I am going back to work on Monday after two weeks off! That is going to be real hard work! But will get through it, I am sure.

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 17:18:43

I made scoth drop pancakes for breakfast (well I made the mixture and DP cooked them) served with golden syrup or sugar and lemon. We mixed sultanas in sone of the pancakes, so didn't fancy chocolate! Perhaps tomorrow! If it isn't too naughty. Plus I baked a madeira cake, yum.

Then I started a course of antibiotics for a chest infection! But I am going back to work on Monday after two weeks off! That is going to be real hard work! But will get through it, I am sure.

thecherryontop Thu 03-Oct-13 17:21:26

Hi ladies, I hope it's ok if I join, I have lurked a bit on mumsnet but not really used it properly if you know what I mean! I am 30 +5 with baby number 1 -due 7th December. I'm currently off work with spd which is very frustrating. Anyway, would be really good to chat to other mums to be as its starting to get very real! grin

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 17:39:03

Hello cherry ofcourse you can join us. We welcome everyone here. Be warned we like to chat though so the threads move pretty fast!

Sorry to hear you have SPD. hope it's not too painful for you.

For any of you who aren't part of our facebook group, i'll update you here too. I am currently in hospital after taking a tumble down the stairs and giving bump quite a knock. I have that blood type that doesn't like baby so I went to get checked and ended up having a bleed. I'm being kept in tonight for monitoring but I don't think anything too bad is happening.

Featherbag Thu 03-Oct-13 17:53:49

Pleased you're ok Whisper x

Xenadog Thu 03-Oct-13 17:57:30

13Loki hope you are feeling better now, will you have tomorrow off if you still feel poorly?

Whisper I'm sorry you're in hospital. I hope you are feeling OK and LO is well too. Take care and how lovely of you to think about inviting us newbies to the FB group when you are clearly under the weather.

PinkWitch those pancakes sound lovely - a real treat for breakfast sets you up for the day doesn't it?

Hello to all the other newbies too.

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 17:59:19

If you want to be in the group on FB, just send me a private message on here & I can add you to the group. Gives me something to do while I'm stuck in here.

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 17:59:45

a private message with a link to your profile...is what I meant to say haha

mumoftwoboysS Thu 03-Oct-13 18:01:29

Oh dear whisper hope all is ok. Take it easy and watch those stairs!! I'm sure baby is well padded but it's still worrying when things like that happen- have they scanned you or anything to check?

NomDeClavier Thu 03-Oct-13 18:05:55

I will respond to people more fully later but I need to vent.

Aaaaargh!!!!!!! DH isn't home and I promised wend ear dinner together tonight, he says 10 minutes half an hour ago. I am knackersd. The art school not finding a replacement apparently my fault so I had to teach this afternoon so needed to grovel to a friend to pick DS up from nursery. My legs hurt. I've twisted an ankle. I have the GTT tomorrow. I'm not sleeping well. I am in a VILE mood.

Hello new ladies. I'm nice really grin

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 18:14:14

I haven't had a scan mum, but they have done bloods and I'm on a fetal heartrate monitor. They said they might scan tomorrow just to check, but they don't seem too concerned really. I don't actually know why I have to be here over night because all the staff are very happy with how peanut is. hmm

oh dear nom you sound like you're having a bad day. Have a bath and some chocolate and an early night. Good luck with the GTT tomorrow, hope it goes well.

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 18:15:49

nom sending you a massive hug! My dp is pretty useless with time too.. He'll say 10 miles and turn up an hour later....

whisper sending you lots of love. You're in the best place

Baby Is sat in the most awkward position ever!! I can't sit properly hopefully she will move soon

weechops Thu 03-Oct-13 18:22:22

Hiya all. Had a bad few days with everyone in the house having some sort of bug one after the other. Think it's my turn now - starting to feel ill sad and the sciatica is killing me too. Ok moan over smile

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 19:15:23

I wish I could hug everyone and make you all feel better, but I might end up giving you my chest infection smile

I have just had a really good chat with my DP about the house! He is off work too with this cold and we are bith feeling human enough to go through some paperwork that needs doing. You know those jobs you should do but never get round to! So tomorrow we are reviewing our insurance policies, bank account, energy provider etc. and he has promised not to get pissy.

I also have my 28 week appointment and have invited him along to know what goes on at these appoint and let him have a chance at hearing LO heartbeat again. He doesn't need to come along, but it might be interesting for him! We'll see how he feels.

I am really stuck for what to have for dinner. He is having soup and i was too, but am just "off" food, except cake. Anyone with any suggestions? I can't be doing with cooking so at the moment I am tempted by toasted sandwiches, or back to soup!

WhisperMen Thu 03-Oct-13 19:18:58

something with cheese pink everything is better with cheese. especially if it is melted. grin

When I don't feel like cooking, I usually just make instant mash and beans. Super healthy I know grin

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 19:31:37

Maybe mozerella and tomato toastie! I also like banana toasties when the banana caramalises but both might be too much toastie. Especially as I had one and a half sandwiches at lunchtime. Maybe a salad sad with one cheesy toasty smile

PinkWitch803 Thu 03-Oct-13 19:32:16

Hope you aren't too bored whisper.

mumoftwoboysS Thu 03-Oct-13 19:45:42

whisper well it's good they've done that and are keeping an eye on you. I'm not sure how bash proof our bumps are but DS1 just kicked mine at bedtime- he was really hyper and didn't specifically aim for my bump but did it when he got upset when I tried to calm him down. I was like a protective animal over her babies and practically hissed at him! It was a decent kick but I'm sure baby is fine...

So fed up with his hyperactiveness. He started school (foundation) this month and going well apart from being like a crazed animal on speed every bedtime-so fed up.

5ammy Thu 03-Oct-13 20:16:05

Hi ladies,

I have a bit if a TMI question - this is my third so it's really embarrassing.

I've recently noticed an increase in discharge (sorry), mainly very watery. Yesterday I said to my husband 'ugh, feel like I've wet myself' - went to the bathroom and my knickers were all wet. Just put it down to pregnancy.

Same again today, lots of watery discharge, I did wonder if my poor pelvic floor had given in, but it doesn't smell ammoniaish. I got changed from work about an hour ago and am wearing grey track suit bottoms - sat on the sofa with one leg on the floor and one on the sofa and the husband says 'honey, you're erm leaking', as in he could see a wet patch between my legs. So the increased discharge can't be my imagination.

Is anyone else having lots of watery discharge? I don't need to worry do I?

Sorry I don't post much, I'm more of a lurker. Thread moves so fast I can barely keep up.


Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 20:36:41

Whisper you must have felt very worried after the fall and especially the bleed! Have you had your anti-D injection already?
I didn't "live" to see my anti-D as I had a bleed last week brought on by an excessive nesting instinct ( which involves moving furniture around ). Had to go to hospital and have my injection early. And all is fine with the little one, maybe too fine, as now docs are concerned about him being massive!

Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 20:43:20

5ammy there is no such thing here as TMI grin Mention the discharge to your doctor or midwife and ask for a swab. Can't hurt knowing that all is fine!
I had a swab last week unrelated to discharge - as a routine because I had a bleed-and it now turns out I have BV (bacterial vaginosis) going on without any symptoms. Yeah, i do have more discharge than usual but it doesn't smell, doesn't itch so I would not have been tested if not for the hospital stay.

5ammy Thu 03-Oct-13 20:49:16

Thanks Deya,

Seeing midwife on weds so will mention it. Just had a shower, so feeling a bit fresher, popped a pad on too. It's probably just my pelvic floor giving up the game. Ha ha.

Thanks for the reply.

Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 20:57:52

Bladders do become a bit weird with little naughty heads/feet testing them! smile
Had a funny episode last week when I could only pee standing up grin. Nothing was coming out if I sat down so I resorted to doing it in the shower. Awful, I know!

Gannetgob Thu 03-Oct-13 21:02:31

Hi all, not been around for a while, trying to catchup as much as I can!

Bohemian – that other teacher sounds like a dick, I’m finding teaching much harder than I did before I was pregnant, especially since September. I know it’s awful, but I just don’t give a crap, I’m just counting down the days now – only 13 days left!

MrsShrubs - I don’t know about 4 hours on a plane, but I’m going to the south of France next summer with my parents and we are driving, not looking forward to it! I’m sure it will be fine!!!

Feather, I'm sorry your DM has been a pain. Try not to get upset about it – it will hopefully pass soon enough!

Stom, your DP sounds like he's being a bit of a wally. Just book it – he will get over it and probably end up having a great time!

Xenadog, my HOD wants to do an observation in the next 3 weeks too. He is lovely, but I just don’t see the point. We have gone to the performance related pay already, and I won’t be able to meet any targets made this year, so what’s the point? I don’t know what to say to him – don’t want to seem like I don’t give a shit!

Whisper, sounds scary – I hope everything is ok, I’m sure it will be!

5ammy, my discharge is gross too. Sometimes it’s the same consistency as snot! I might mention it to my midwife next week. I don’t know about watery discharge though. It could be you are just a bit leaky – I’ve wee’d when I’ve sneezed twice this week.

Lady, glad everything is ok. I had a trip to triage this week too. I was bleeding and hadn’t felt baby for a while. Everything seemed to be fine though, so that’s good. They have booked me in for a scan at 34 weeks – I’m not sure why though. I meant to ask but it was 1am and I was so tired! Anyone have any ideas why they’d arrange that? Anyway, was told to take the rest of the week off, so just been lazing around which is nice!

Sooooo, now that’s done, I want to talk nipple pad things. My boobs were leaky ages ago, but that has stopped now. Anyway, people with previous experience, should I use disposable pads or do you think it’s worth buying reusable ones? Also, are there ones I can use to catch milk when I’m breastfeeding? Or have I imagined that? Any advice will be much appreciated!

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 21:13:10

DP is just being a knob. Hes called me phsyco earlier! Totally uncalled for! I asked him about the party again (also mentions he'd spent £800 on stag do's this year) and he said let just get this stag do out the way and we will discuss it. I've got too much going on money wise..Urgh. If it was just him that had been invited it would be a different story!

Then he said to me what do you actually do all day just sit and watch Netflix!? (this house must get tidied magically then! And the fairies must cook his tea)

If i just go ahead a book it he will do his nut. And have a huge go at me even the the credit card is OURS.. He thinks I'm crap with money and is going to get us into debt just because I owe £200 on a very account which I pay each month without fail!

Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 21:44:44

Stom I don't know how comforting this is, but my DH thinks your DP is a knob and very insensitive. Sorry for passing your story on, just thought it might be handy to find out opinions other than those of hormonal women! smile

Xenadog Thu 03-Oct-13 21:57:06

Stom your dp seems to want everything on his terms - I would not be impressed and would be giving it to him with both barrels. Where's the give and take? After all it takes two to make a baby doesn't it so why should the sacrifices all be yours just because you are carrying the baby? Grrr he makes me mad.

"Gannetgob* I think you should just say to your HoD that the extra stress of an observation is going to be too much - I would state that you need to be as calm as possible at this point in your pregnancy and anything which causes stress needs to be eradicated. Have you had a risk assessment done? Whoever did it (if you had one - and you should) should be reviewing it with you regularly and ensuring the school is not piling unnecessary stress on.

As for discharge it's normal to produce more (I read) but I hate it - it makes me feel bleugh IYKWIM.

Crikey Deya I've not heard of difficulty peeing when sat down! Hope you're back to normal now.

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:04:42

Haha thanks deya.. He is being a knob so don't apologise lol.
Hes usually lovely. I just don't know what's up with him. Perhaps he's fed up with me being off work. I don't know. Hes really hard to talk too.
He gave me a silly apology about the physco thing before he went out. I said he can apologise properly when he gets home & actually mean it.

Its not even loads it's £90. Thats £45 each. For me to have one night away i haven't been away all year or last year he's been to Budapest twice this year.

Such a jerk - I wish someone other than me would explain this to him then he would see my side....

Ill be explaining something to him or put across my concerns etc and he won't believe me or listen.. But as soon as one of his mates says the same thing he believes them... Then I'm like I've been telling you that for months!! It winds me up so much!!

Sorry I'll stop ranting now xxx

ccsays Thu 03-Oct-13 22:05:36

whisper I love 'If I Should Have a Daughter' makes me tear up (especially as I'm having a daughter)

Stom Sorry your DP's being a knob. I have big problems with calling a woman 'psycho' or 'crazy' to shut down an argument, there's a great article on The Good Men Project about that very thing.

Well, two shifts down and five to go! I have TV series that I've always wanted to watch (Orange is The New Black, The Killing) waiting to go smile

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:06:26

Xenadog.. You hit the nail on the head.

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:09:41

This is what happened... He was staring into space so I said said nicely.... What you thinking about? He replies
With... Nothing sstop it! I said what? What's do you mean stop it i haven't done anything... Then he says.. What's wrong with you? Having another of your psyco moments!?..
According to him since I've been pregnant I've become psyco... Argh!!!!

Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 22:17:48

By the way if my husband asks me what I've been up to all day ( I'm off work sick now) I say I've been making his son's penis. And should I get interrupted from doing so, he may turn out disadvantaged in that department. grin

Stom91 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:18:11

Thats for the like Ccsays.... It was a very good. Read!!
I actually related to it.. Thats bad?

Oh and I've literally juat finished watching orange is the new black.. Its really good you'll enjoy it! Though there's alot. Of. Girl on girl :S nothing explicit though but you can get the gist lol

MildredH Thu 03-Oct-13 22:18:57

5ammy- don't want to alarm but if there's enough to soak through your bottoms I wonder if you should speak to someone tomo rather than wait for next week- is there any chance you could be leaking amniotic fluid? Worth a phone call I'd say.. Sorry hon- don't mean to panic you.

Deya- I had a wierd thing with not being able to pee properly earlier this week.. Had a brief panic about it and then it trickled out ( sorry tmi!).

Frickin groin pain still getting me down. Working is really tricky but am so determined to get to my mat leave date in 10 days.. No joy from occ health and tried to contact midwife on the number but they just told me to call labour ward which seemed really inappropriate. On plus side- work have been unusually helpful and covered my Saturday on call shift so am only doing the Sun.

NomDeClavier Thu 03-Oct-13 22:19:27

5ammy I get gushes of watery stuff. I think it's normal tbh but if you're worried get it checked.

stom your DP is being a bit of a twat at the moment. (Sorry I don't have much patience today). Calling you names like that really isn't on sad

gannet lilypadz are your new b(r)est friend. I found disposable pads got lumpy, reusable ones are great for soaking up milk later on but you need to change them fairly frequently and breast shells are way too obvious under tops although they come in really handy later.

mum my bump has come in for a fair few kicks, and a couple of accidents with cupboard doors when I forget I'm pregnant! They're pretty well protected barring massive blunt force trauma or a serious fall.

whisper I hope everything is okay with you and bump. They're probably just being cautious in case anything is triggered you're in the right place to get help straight away.

deya if they're basing that on a scan then remember it's about as accurate as guessing the weight of someone in a bathtub of water in the next room (ie not very)!

pink virtual hugs don't spread germs <un-MNly hugs all round> Hope you're feeling a bit better soon!

mumoftwoboysS Thu 03-Oct-13 22:25:11

ccsays I just read that article- wow, it's really interesting. Never heard of gaslighting before but the article makes a lot of sense.
the bit that really rang true for me was this bit: .

When we are discouraged in our youth and early adulthood from expressing emotion, it causes many of us to remain steadfast in our refusal to express regret when we see someone in pain from our actions. that is so my DH. if we have an arguement he often finds it impossible to apologise for upsetting me in the heat of the moment, even if he knows he's the one being insensitive, but later he'll apologise. Also I definitely feel he thinks I'm a bit overly 'emotional' and unbalanced at times just because I'm a woman and that's what they're like. It's so embedded into society and how men view us!

anyway thanks for posting the link- would love to show DH but know he'd just scoff and say it's a load of psycho babble! But I did a psych degree and am really interested in people/behaviour etc.

Deya Thu 03-Oct-13 22:30:13

Ha ha Nom that's a good comparison!
I think all issues are related to the dating scan. They added nearly 2 weeks to my EDD after the first scan and since then he's been always measuring too big for his weeks. If we assume he's 2 weeks ahead of what midwifes go by then my bump and baby is spot on! Or maybe it's just me wanting him to be here a bit earlier...? Arrgh...wait and see.

Hi, sorry to hear of everyones woes, I spent all of last wednesday afternoon getting checked out as I'd had hardly any movements for a day and a half, typically since then shes not stopped boogying!

Had yet another growth scan today, although she has grown and is now estimated at just over 3 pounds shes gone from between the 2nd and 5th centile lines to below the 2nd, so still got to keep having scans every 2 weeks. Good news though, last week she was breech and is now head down.

The consultant had a girl in with him who was on work experience and while he went to work out the estimated weight he asked if I'd mind if she had a go of the scanner, it was great fun, I wish I'd done something like that on my work experience!

LadyMedea Thu 03-Oct-13 22:44:15

Hey 5ammy I second Mildred in saying get checked out for the wetness tomorrow rather than next week... You might just be leaking waters. I'm a lot more...err... juicy... Since being pregnant but not quite that wet!

kitty213 Fri 04-Oct-13 00:08:50

roselau its special hearing heartbeat i love it so much

hi emb1715 am a newbie too, due 3 days before you, exciting

what is it about 4am lol, why are we all waking up then? are we getting ready for night feeds or something?

5ammy and others id not worry my discharge actually bleaches my underwear, no smell but i cant wear coloured cotton or i end up with bleach like marks, worried but doctor said as long as no smell or burning then its fine, am getting quite a lot to at the moment is quite watery

mumoftwoboysS Fri 04-Oct-13 01:22:15

Oww! Keep getting cramp in my legs. (Last few weeks) Just woken up with cramp in one leg to get it in the other! Keep getting it in the front/shin. Bloody painful. (And that's after fighting with restless leg going to sleep)...

PistachioTruffle Fri 04-Oct-13 03:26:23

Oh, hello 3.30am hmm

froubylou Fri 04-Oct-13 03:45:23

Hello 3.45am lol. You are similar to 2am. Sigh.

kchapper5 Fri 04-Oct-13 06:48:14

Morning everyone 2am and 4am again here oh well at least it's a Friday smile will check back and post properly later

EmB1715 Fri 04-Oct-13 08:06:02

Anyone else have nightmares about baby? I woke up crying in the early hours. Freaked out DH no end!

froubylou Fri 04-Oct-13 09:23:49

Morning all

EmB I haven't really had nightmares but have had some very vivid and very strange dreams whilst being pg. Don't worry about it, something to do with hormones I think!

Whisper hope you and the baby OK this morning? Let us know when you get a min.

And 5ammy, did you get checked out? It's probably nothing but better to be safe than sorry..

And speaking of worries, another one for worry corner sigh. I don't think it's anything but movement feels different. Still getting the same number of kicks and prods and stuff (if I concentrate) but they feel different. Softer somehow and less intense. But I think baby has changed position. At my scan last week he was head down, back to back and I have a feeling from where I am feeling movement he's turned around so his back is to my tummy now if you know what I mean!

Bump also seems to have dropped a bit. I had a 'shelf' under my boobs which has gone now and that part of my tummy is softer and the rest of my bump is rounder. But that could be to do with the fact that my constipation seems to have gone a bit (sorry, TMI!).

I know my placenta is at the front which could muffle movement a bit if he's bouncing off that. Going to do the cold drink and lay on my side for 2 hours and see what happens! Good excuse to go back to bed for a bit lol.

Anyone else noticed bump being lower though? Am 29 weeks today so a bit early for baby to be engaged I would have thought?

EmB1715 Fri 04-Oct-13 09:31:46

froubylou I've had the same worries since saturday! Bub's movements haven't been anywhere near as obvious as they had been for the past few weeks. Still getting the right number but just different. Mentioned it to MW on Weds and she just shrugged it off so I'm assuming it's nothing to worry about! Hope you're ok smile

PinkWitch803 Fri 04-Oct-13 09:32:48

Frou- I am similar to you this morning except dor scans and bump moving. I have felt muffled movement abd have an anteriorl placenta. I have a MW appt today otherwise I would be popping to the assesment unit for a check. Just to reassure me

PinkWitch803 Fri 04-Oct-13 09:34:43

Plus my bump is aching, a bit like trapped wind, so hoping that is what it is - glad I am not at work in case it is ;p

WhisperMen Fri 04-Oct-13 10:08:20

hello all. just had a scan and baby is fine. had a rough night and I'm covered in bruises and have a strapped up ankle. I would rather it be me in pain than peanut though. I can go home when DP gets here at 11. I am going straight to bed.

going to PIL tonight for the weekend as DP is running a half marathon for charity in London on Sunday. not looking forward to having to stand around for a few hours while he runs though!

Roselau Fri 04-Oct-13 10:43:17

whisper glad everything is ok!!!

frouby sometimes the movement feels different for me too. I also have placenta at the front so I think it's just when she changes positions and faces the back? I'm 29 weeks tomorrow. I do notice for me full bladder / constipation makes my bump a bit higher. I think as long as I'm feeling some movement all is ok. trying not to freak out about everything, it can't be good for baby...

So weird, this morning again, it was 415 am. That's 3 days in a row I wake up at the exact same time. I wonder if it has anything to do with her sleep cycle or something

on another note - LAST DAY IN THE OFFICE WAHOOO!!!! My team has been so lovely. I've gotten the most amazing feedback from them and they are taking me to lunch today. Hormonal preggers is going to have a hard time not crying her eyes out...

Featherbag Fri 04-Oct-13 12:00:37

Hope you're tucked up in your own bed now Whisper! Was 3.30 for me, woken up by DS then baby moved in such a way that meant I had to sit on the loo for about 20 minutes before I could move again. I must have been constipated as I seem to have done noting but poo for 2 days now, feeling more comfortable for it though!

WhisperMen Fri 04-Oct-13 12:04:41

Unfortunately I'm not in bed. I have a lovely bruise all up once side of me from the banister and can't lie on that side and on my other arm I have a massive bruise so can't lie that side either. I have given up and am now on the sofa with a mug of peppermint tea and my knitting.

ooh isn't it wonderful when you can finally poo feather I never knew it would be such a pressing concern in my life haha!

froubylou Fri 04-Oct-13 12:10:12

Glad it's not just me that thinks that movement can change. Not amounts of times as much but the way it feels. Had a couple of hours on the bed and got lots of flutters and 1 strong kick when I put my hand on my tummy. Decided to ring M/W for a chat if nothing else.

Had a cuppa before sitting down to call her and whilst I was drinking my tea (and OK eating a bit of cake) felt 3 big strong movements. So feel better now. Think he has just moved position. Don't think even going up and being monitored will make any difference as he is definatley moving and wiggling around, just a different type of wiggling around.

Only had a scan last week and that was fine. I feel fine myself too. No signs of BP being up or anything. But obviously if I am still worried or he has another quiet time or the movements change again I'll nip up for a looksee.

Think I am going to treat myself to chip shop chip butty for lunch though lol. have a craving for salt and vinigar chips. And usually do shopping on a friday but wages going to be late in today so just sort of twiddling my thumbs with nothing much to do apart from wait for them to go in. Can't go out anywhere as once they go in our business account I have the payroll to do.

And am getting annoyed with phonecalls off the lads wanting to know where their wages are. They are all self employed subcontractors. We have just changed the company we are subcontracting to and they don't do their payroll until about 3pm on a friday. Its to keep the subbies on site longer on a friday I think and stop them pissing off at 12 o'clock to the pub (which is what they all usually do). So they were all told 2 weeks ago that payroll won't be done until after 3pm this week onwards.

But seeing as how they are all supposed to be on site and working, and aren't supposed to leave site or use their phones (except on breaks due to H & S) I'm a bit surprised that one of them has phoned me 4 times already to see where his wages are! He can't spend them until he finishes at 3pm. So why the big rush I have no idea and my DP has been saving his 'dinner money' for him all week so he doesn't blow it then have to borrow money off the others.

Have sent DP a txt to go find him and have words!

MrsShrubs Fri 04-Oct-13 12:54:38

Frouby so glad you said that, I've been having the same number of movements but they're not as strong as they were even a week ago, and they're more wriggles than kicks at the moment too. I wonder if they've not got as much space now and that's whats causing the more muted movements? Also I've been thinking all week my bumps shrunk compared to last week, I suddenly look really compact and low rather than an over all bump so I'm glad you've mentioned that too!

whisper hope you're okay, you're not doing well injury wise at all are you? Glad baby seemed fine, just hope your bruises etc go down and the pain eases.

Em I had an awful baby related nightmare wednesday night, really really upset me. Must be the hormones! Other than that I've barely dreamt at all, think my bodies too tired to dream or remember them if I have been!

Rose hope you have a good last office day, not long at all now until you and DP are reunited!!

Stom91 Fri 04-Oct-13 13:50:09

Those getting less strong moments I've had the same over the last couple days.... And then all day yesterday and all of last night all she did was beat me lol.. So she must've gotten into a position where I couldn't feel her so much.... I rather bruised today

Glad all ok whisper....
Sorry I haven't really caught up.. This thread moved too fast lol...
Had my hair cut today so feels better..

Still no apology from dp... But apparently I pushed him out of bed in my sleep so my unconsciousness was angry at him too lol

I keep dreaming dd is born at 30 weeks... Thats just over a week away confused

abcdemma Fri 04-Oct-13 14:33:01

Also jumping on the altered movement bandwagon. It went less to kicking 'out' and more to wriggling on the inside, but was still feeling movement so not too much of a worry. I think he's moved again though cause now he's been kicking the crap outta me for a couple of days lol.

Hope everyone is feeling ok/better (lots to read and catch up on), now to drag myself back to work for the other half of my mammoth shift sad

LadyMedea Fri 04-Oct-13 14:47:12

Feeling like a sad git for looking forward to our Sainsburys shop tonight... Getting out of the house with Dh is always nice no matter what it is doing. He's studying at the momement for professional exams so its going to be a quiet couple of months. The exams are either side of my due date so we'll see what happens!

Whisper so glad you are OK even if you are a little beaten up.

Roselau Fri 04-Oct-13 14:58:45

lady i just lurked around your profile and hadn't seen the cake pic before (must've missed it). it looks AMAZING! you are such as star baker! i'm so impressed i would never be able to make something like that.

WhisperMen Fri 04-Oct-13 15:39:57

Thanks guys. I have felt rotten all day as everywhere aches. I do have some impressive bruises though!

spent my day knitting and have completed the first row of my baby blanket. I am doing it sort of patchwork style with lots of 10x10 inch squares that I sew together.

Just realised I have half a cake to eat as we're at the PIL's for the weekend so it will go stale if I leave it. I guess I will have to eat it grin

ooh lady I love going to the supermarket. DP thinks I am mental but I genuinely love it. It makes me sad that we have no car so have to do our shop online. You just don't get the same experience sad

PistachioTruffle Fri 04-Oct-13 15:50:44

I hope you feel better soon Whisper, it must've been really scary to fall, that feeling when you realise that you're going to is terrifying. Glad little whisper is ok too.

It was 5.30 the last time I looked at the clock this morning, goodness knows what time I actually fell asleep. I'm now so tired I'm constantly on verge of tears and quite ill. Please tell me it gets better, I've got no idea how ill look after a newborn feeling like this sad

I've had both flu and whooping cough jabs today, so both arms are really sore and I'm feeling very sorry for myself indeed.

Roselau Fri 04-Oct-13 16:12:25

i have a guilty pleasure for the supermarket too. love it

Roselau Fri 04-Oct-13 16:17:45

i dont think that sentence made sense but you know what i mean

MrsShrubs Fri 04-Oct-13 16:24:14

I'd completely forgotten to have a look at the cake too when you put it up, just had a look lady and it is amazing!!

WhisperMen Fri 04-Oct-13 16:27:05

I don't suppose any of you guys have seen my motivation anywhere? I have so many things to do before we leave tonight but I haven't moved from the sofa all day. Someone come and pack my bag and go deliver this parcel for me?

NomDeClavier Fri 04-Oct-13 17:04:58

Argh! At what point do I tell DH that 'doing his best' isn't fucking good enough?

Xenadog Fri 04-Oct-13 18:49:34

Evening guys.

Whisper it's good to know you have cake to help you through this tough time; I think it's a great treatment for bruises too! As for your motivation - can't help as mine has buggered off too.

Nom what has DH done/said or is it just his efforts in general?

I had reduced movement a few weeks ago and then phoned the MW but it took her a day to get back to me! In that time LO returned to normal but I did have about 2 days of worry. There was still movement but it was significantly reduced and felt so much weaker/softer than it had previously. I did the "count the kicks" thing where I drank a cold drink, lay on my side for 2 hours and counted the movements. That did put my mind at rest as I had more than 20 in the 2 hours which was the target and so I stopped fretting so much. It's worth doing if you just aren't sure about whether you should head off to the MW/hospital.

Enjoy your Friday evenings all.

WhisperMen Fri 04-Oct-13 19:08:57

I have just packed the bag. Well I went to put my toothbrush in and I discovered that I apparently have tried to pack the bag earlier. I have no memory of doing this and I clearly wasn't thinking at the time. It's for 3 nights and 2 days away and I have apparently decided we need...

an egg cup
two teatowels
one sock
an apple
pillow case
pack of rennies
a teapot

Seriously?! what the hell was I thinking?! I can understand the rennies and the teapot and the apple. Everyone needs those things. but the rest?

I've repacked it now with clothes grin

PinkWitch803 Fri 04-Oct-13 20:11:02

whisper I love your list. It makes perfect sense!

MildredH Fri 04-Oct-13 20:40:53

Lol whisper- love the crazy bag packing.

Talking of bags- sorry if we've talked about this recently and I've forgotten- when has/is everyone packing the bag?

I'm 32 weeks.. Kind of had 34 weeks in mind- don't know why- but the thought of DH having to pack a bag for me if i was caught off guard fills me with dread!!

Deya Fri 04-Oct-13 20:55:13

Talking about hospital bags - you can't pack it too early. Too late is a frightening possibility though! I'm 29 +5 and haven't started yet but by 32-33 weeks it will be done!

PistachioTruffle Fri 04-Oct-13 21:31:57

grin Whisper.

I've started buying a few things for the hospital bag, a nightie and slippers from primark, a pack of face wipes and a single pack of maternity towels so far. Something tells me I might need a few more things before its finished! (I'm missing egg cups too, I can see how they'd be essential wink)

Was it this thread where someone reccomended natal hypnotherapy? Reviews for the CDs look good but it's quite a lot of money for us at the minute. Interested to hear any thoughts on it.

PinkWitch803 Fri 04-Oct-13 21:33:58

I packed my bag last week following my unexpected stay in hospital and I was going to leave the baby and dp/snack bags until later, but paranoia has the best of me and I have got down my bag of newborn baby clothes and three muslin cloths to wash and put in a bag, plus coop is doing a deal on nappies and wipes, so without panicking, I may have the baby's bag packed by the end of next week! So then I may as well do the dp/snack pack too smile

I will have to redo it later as I won't remember what I have packed, but hey ho.

NomDeClavier Fri 04-Oct-13 21:42:49

I may have recommended natal hypnotherapy. I personally think it's worth the CDs and you can often pick then up cheap at NCT nearly new sales, or if you know anyone who's bought them see if you can borrow.

I have absolutely nothing done for hospital bag. I guess I'll need to start thinking about that!

Stom91 Fri 04-Oct-13 21:42:53

Amazon are going newborn pampers nappies box of 74 for £7

Deya Fri 04-Oct-13 21:55:53

Pistachio I have to say that hypnotherapy or soothing/relaxing type of CD is not something I could relate to while giving birth. If I'd like a nap during long hours of contractions, then yes, maybe.
I actually want to ask if I can play AC/DC or some other rock music while pushing grin I mean it's hard work, I need adrenaline, stimulation and power! And blood, sweat and swearing go much better with rock than with "twinkle, twinkle little star". Haha - sorry if I've gone a little OTT here.

Pocketsocks Fri 04-Oct-13 22:02:20

Hello all, mind if I join in?

I'm another due December 5th and having the joy of SPD. Must be something about the date!

I have two boys already age 8 and 3 and this will be boy number 3, much to MIL's saddness. She aimed so many girl vibes at my uterus before we found out, I'm sure he's going to think he is one!
But due to monty being a guinea pig for my consultants student, we are rather sure of what we are having.

I'm slightly higher risk due to various factors, retained placenta and a 2 litre pph with my first who was only 6lb 7oz followed by the unexpected 10lb 13oz his brother weighed. Both of them needed a few days in hospital for various small issues, so if I get a quick discharge this time I won't know what to do with myself!

Current irritations are the fact that I have to wait till the 30th for my group physio appointment and my upcoming gestational diabetes test. It's been a needle every 5 minutes what with blood tests, whooping cough vaccine and anti d in quick succession! Anyone else feeling like a pin cushion?
I also keep coming myself to death every night which I think is the pregnancy pillows fault.

Glad to see I'm not the only one wondering about movements. I should be glad of the break as things are getting quite painful, but I'm still constantly feeling like prodding him! I'm hoping he had finally turned from being breech and is getting comfy!

So that was my epically long introduction. Hope to get to know you all!

MildredH Fri 04-Oct-13 22:19:35

Welcome pocket! I'm due 30 Nov- just been through the needlefest too! 28 week bloods, anti D, whooping cough.. Urgh. Glad to be done for a while.

Am going to make a start on a hosp bag this wk.. smile

5ammy Fri 04-Oct-13 22:24:23

Hi Pocketsocks,

Welcome :-)

Hope this birth goes a little better then your previous,

What's 'coming [yourself] to death'? If it's what I think it is, then where did you get that pregnancy pillow from, because I want one!!!!!


MildredH Fri 04-Oct-13 22:25:21

Thanks for the amazon tip Stom. Getting some nappies/ wipes might be a good start to the baby bag..

Anyone know what size is a safe bet? Esp if getting a massive box.. Is size 1 going to be suitable if I have a big bruiser ( convinced ill be squeezing out an 11lb'er!)

EmB1715 Fri 04-Oct-13 22:34:32

Hi Pocket smile sorry to hear of your SPD too! Great to have more due date buddies!

Pistachio I got the Natal Hypnotherapy CD on eBay for about £6. Have yet to find the time to start it... really must get on with it!

PistachioTruffle Fri 04-Oct-13 22:34:46

Thanks Nom,I think I might go for it, or try and see if I can get them a bit cheaper on eBay.
Deya, that's fair enough, it would be boring if we were all the same grin To be honest, I've been feeling quite anxious (not about birth particularly, more generally) so I'm hoping it will help with that, and anything else is a bonus!

Welcome pocket flowers

Stom, that's a bargain. I daren't buy any more first size though, I've got about 120 in a mix of various brands, and wonder if he might grow out of that size before we finish them if I buy any more. I notice they have the Lansinoh cream and breast pads at really good prices too.

Pocketsocks Fri 04-Oct-13 22:35:09

See this is why I shouldn't hold a conversation and type at the same time. Auto correct needs vigilance!

I meant "cooking"!!!!

Mildred, I'd go for size 2 as in pampers at least I think they are 6lbs to 13lbs whereas size 1 are 4lbs to 11lbs

Deya, I like the idea of a bit of AC/DC! Thunderstuck seems like just the ticket to get you psyched up!

PistachioTruffle Fri 04-Oct-13 22:36:01

Oops, cross posts with em. It appears eBay may be the place to look then smile

Stom91 Fri 04-Oct-13 22:45:55

Welcome. Pockets smile

I was going to get the 6 - 13lb ones.. As I don't think baby will be any smaller than 6lb. If she is we can grab a few smaller sizes on the way back from the hospital.... Mw hasn't given me any indication of how big she thinks baby will be... I'd quite like to know though.

Just retold dp that im at risk of rapid birth. And he's like Omg what am I going to do if I have to deliver her.. I don't know how to deliver a baby. Why didn't you tell me this... I said you did you just didn't listen as usual...
Then he kisses bump and says Dont worry lil one I'll ge you out - then he says to me i wont have to sew you up will i? Lol!

Stom91 Fri 04-Oct-13 22:46:57

pockets we also have a Facebook group just message me a link to your profile and I'll add you in

PinkWitch803 Fri 04-Oct-13 22:53:39

I don't want to get many nappies until I meet the LO and know the size we need, then Amazon here we come.

I can't use my pillow at the moment because I do truly melt every night. And day at the moment. It is October and I was wearing a summer dress the other day! Bearing in mind I usually struggle with being cold. Heatwaves are generally comfortable for me. I am so pleased I am warming up as the weather is cooling down.

Deya Fri 04-Oct-13 22:59:41

Another hot pregnant lady here! Had to tell off DH for turning on the heating the other day. That has NEVER happened before!

kchapper5 Sat 05-Oct-13 05:42:21

I could cry I'm in so much pain tonight my lower abs/groin area hurts so much I can't roll over in bed or even lifting a leg up like to go upstairs is horrendous. My hips click everytime I try to push myself over from one side to the other. I know can't sleep can't ring the midwife later as the number I've got is for Monday to Friday between 9 and 10am. Grr.
I really hope everyone else is having a better nights sleep.
Ooo and welcome pocket

mumoftwoboysS Sat 05-Oct-13 07:28:26

This thread moves too fast! pistachio I also recommended natal hypnotherapy -it's great to relax before the birth- sooth away your anxieties which could make for a calmer easier labour- I have yet to use it in labour, perhaps if I get to the hospital in time this time I will!

Thanks to whoever mentioned getting flu jab in he arm you don't sleep on- mine was killing me and luckily I had it in my right arm so just had to turn over again when it woke me!

Had THE most horrendous dream last night- I was being chased by these people and had to kill them (with a pitchfork through the heart) to survive! I'm a nice person really- no psychotic tendencies honest! grin so disturbing!...

WhisperMen Sat 05-Oct-13 08:00:59

morning all smile

just woke up from the best sleep ever. I didn't wake up for the loo once! I am at PIL's house and have a single bed here, so I think it helps that I don't have DP rolling all over and breathing on me. grin

sorry you're in pain k hopefully your midwife can refer you to physio smile

I haven't brought any nappies or wipes. tp be perfectly honest I sort of completely forgot about them blush

off to London tomorrow as DP is running a half marathon for charity. he's raised nearly £400 which is pretty cool smile does mean we have to be up at 4am though shock then I have to stand around for a few hours while he runs the thing.

hope you're all keeping well and enjoy your weekends

LadyMedea Sat 05-Oct-13 08:45:57

Hey kchapper, SPD is shitty. Don't be afraid to take the full dose of paracetamol, rest as much as you can, keep your knees together when turning in bed/getting out of a car, avoid driving, go up stairs one at a time. Also you can try putting a belt around you hips and tightening it to hold your pelvis stable.

And get on to the midwives on Monday morning they should refer you to physio... Although the wait around here is 2 weeks so if you can afford it you may want to go private. I've got my first physio group session on Wednesday and I'm still thinking a may go private to get some one to one manual physio. My local Spire private hospital has a specialist spd clinic.

whisper I know you want to support DP but standing for hours.....?

Chilli81 Sat 05-Oct-13 08:51:00

welcome Pocket and other newcomers. I am also suffering from the dreaded spd. it's cheap isn't it?
Thanks for the nappy tip. I guess I better start buying that stuff to spread out the cost.
I think I may also have a look into hypnobirth cds. found breathing and visualisations really helpful last time but would be nice to have guided visualisations. oh God, I sound like a right hippy. I'm not, honest! wink

Chilli81 Sat 05-Oct-13 08:51:40

crap not cheap

EmB1715 Sat 05-Oct-13 09:11:11

What an awful night's sleep! I know sleep will be few and far between when baby is here but I am so looking forward to not being pregnant anymore!

What was the waiting time for those of you who have been referred for physio? I've been waiting for 2 weeks and nothing yet.

Hope you all had a good sleep smile

kchapper5 Sat 05-Oct-13 09:28:09

I haven't been diagnosed with spd but I'm assuming that's what it is. sad thank you all for the advice smile
Wow that's amazing he's raised that much money so far whisper could you take a camping chair with you so you could sit down

5ammy Sat 05-Oct-13 10:34:00


Your post made me think - we should think up some 'songs to labour to'.

When my mum was in labour with my youngest brother I remember them bringing a TV in and David Bowie being on singing 'Under pressure' - her waters were still in tact and she'd been going on about the pressure. Every time I hear that song I think of my brother being born.

Anyway -

Songs to labour to:
Push it by Salt n Pepa,
All that she wants (is another baby) by Ace of Base

Any more?

NomDeClavier Sat 05-Oct-13 10:49:41

Argh they won't give me my GD results over the phone because a biologist isn't there to interpret them. But they'd happily hand over the bit of uninterested paper and when I said I was capable of interpreting them myself she got all huffy and said she couldn't let me go that. Still no toxoplasmosis thankfully!

I used the techniques in labour but didn't have the CD is music. I had my own which was considerably more metal influenced than the natal hypnotherapy choice Children of Bodom

I really feel for all of you with SPD sad It just sounds so painful.

We had an amazing lie in! DS stayed asleep until 10.30, although I was on the beanbag in his room between 4 and 7 hmm DH can take night duty tonight but he never wakes up whereas I'm a light sleeper sad

stom how come you're at risk of rapid birth? Best get your DP watching OBEM!

Welcome pockets!

Stom91 Sat 05-Oct-13 11:00:41

nom my Mw gave me my GD results over the phone
Hah he won't watch it. All hospital sticks makes. Him feel. Ill.... We watched a scene last night where this guy was having an op.. All you could see wag the drs being passed the instruments but he was like i can't watch it. Is it over yet.... Woose!! Lol.

Im hypermobile - so I'm at risk of rapid birth and more prone to bad tearing. I'm seeing a consultant next week to find out more about how hypermobility affects birth

froubylou Sat 05-Oct-13 11:18:41

Morning all.

Had a horrible phone call this morning. My dsis is 19 wks pg and was rushed to hospital last night with stomach pain. They are 99% sure it is appendicitis and are taking her down to theatre shortly.

Obviously she is concerned for the baby and in a lot of pain. Only saw her yesterday and compared bumps.

Fingers crossed they are both out of the woods later on.

Featherbag Sat 05-Oct-13 11:25:06

Oh Frouby, I know you'll be worried sick, I hope you get good news soon - she'll be getting well looked after, try not to sit and fret too badly xx

MildredH Sat 05-Oct-13 12:21:09

Your poor dsis Frouby.. I know it'll seem worrying but as feather says they'll be looking after her well and keeping an eye on baby. At least it's something which will be quickly dealt with. Hopefully in a few days time she'll be recovering.

I've had a small victory this morning. Went to a midwife drop in session at the hosp re pelvic pain. She did me a physio referral straight away.

BohemianRaspberry Sat 05-Oct-13 13:08:45

Poor DSis frouby hope everything's okay and congrats MildredH

In terms of birthing music (I so want the birthing centre at my hospital rather than the delivery suite!) I'm going down the rock music route - I'm really getting into "No Fear by The Rasmus as well as the more classic Metallica and Iron Maiden :D DH also suggested using the funny internet songs that I love to 'help laugh Junior out'

He has earned DP points this week with getting me a double decker bar when I was desperate for chocolate

MrsShrubs Sat 05-Oct-13 13:28:28

Blimey this has moved so fast since yesterday morning!!

We were talking about the hospital bag prep last night, I think we might start putting some bits together like pjs, pads etc this week just in case.

froub hope she's okay flowers

Welcome pockets smile

So glad it's not just me who feels so warm at the moment, I'm boiling at night at the moment.

People who have had babies before - or those with knowledge- have you been using a special detergent for babies clothing or just your normal stuff? Keep reading mixed things and want to make a start on washing this gigantic wardrobe he's already gotten as my mum and the MIL have been buying things like mad women bless them!

NomDeClavier Sat 05-Oct-13 13:40:46

mrs I use the same detergent I use for our cloth nappies, which isn't special baby detergent but is recommended for sensitive skin/babies. At the moment it's EcoSprout but I've also used Rockin Green and Violet's laundry powder, and the slightly more mainstream Ecover.

Stom91 Sat 05-Oct-13 13:41:04

So after a massive breakdown in front of dp. Told him to stop being selfish and the name calling and talking to me like dirt.. And more crying and hugs and i do love you and sorrys...
I think dp has finally realised that he has been abit of a dick.. And he's now asked if I want to go away for my birthday -

But once I start crying I find it really hard to stop... Going to be blubbing all day now lol

He said he reckons that all us on MN plot against all the men! We don't tall about babies at all. Lol

NomDeClavier Sat 05-Oct-13 13:43:47

Oops pressed post

I don't seem to be getting too hot at night but I spend half of it out of bed at the moment, falling asleep in DS's room, so I'm more likely to get cold!

frouby your poor Dsis. Let us know how she gets on. You must be so worried sad

Stom91 Sat 05-Oct-13 13:51:41

frouby hope dsis is ok. Sending lots of love.

I'm not hot at all but then our flat is cold so probably keeps me cool.

Featherbag Sat 05-Oct-13 16:05:54

Just a quick warning to other ladies with SPD - DO NOT go for a walk along the beach, especially if the sand is dry. I just did and now I'm in agony confused

EmB1715 Sat 05-Oct-13 16:31:23

Hope your sister is doing ok froub?

We went to an NCT nearly new sale today. Slightly stressful experience...DH made us late and then we had to queue for ages (cue me whinging everytime someone walked out with a bulging bag 'all the good stuff will be gone'!! Drama queen!). Got baby some lovely bits though

MrsShrubs Sat 05-Oct-13 16:38:56

Thanks nom smile

LadyMedea Sat 05-Oct-13 16:47:49

On the physio front I rang up after 10 days of not hearing anything and they slotted me in to the next session this Wednesday.... Not sure if I would have heard anything yet if I hadn't chased. So worth giving them a ring I found the number of the hospitals website.

Xenadog Sat 05-Oct-13 17:05:40

To all those ladies who are hot n bothered - snap! Normally I am freezing but i also had to tell DP off for putting the heating on this morning! I keep waking up in the morning with no quilt on me and the window wide open - at least we are saving money on the heating bills!

A friend told me earlier about a tip for snacks for the men (more to suit them Than us I think) for the labour bag and that's to freeze a sandwich or two - no Mayo though - and then just grab that on the way to the hospital. More nutritious and filling than packets of crisps and no need to stop at a shop or the expensive hospital cafe then. Anymore ideas for snacks to go in there?

PinkWitch803 Sat 05-Oct-13 18:25:11

Frou, I hope things are ok with your Dsis.

Snacks I am thinking of include carton of juice, ginster pies, haribo, dried fruit, cake, biscuits, fresh fruit (grab 'n' go from the fruit bowl) squash, water bottles with sports lid, a couple of cans of cider for DP ;p, breakfast bars. I haven't started packing it yet, so still have some thinking about what and how much.

Is anyone else having paranoia about baby movements! It seems like I can't feel much movement, so I do the cold drink thing and feel enough to reassure me, then nothing again for ages. I keep thinking it is because I have an anterior placenta and the baby has moved to behind it so moevements feel different. Like I say, I am getting moevements but seem to be panicking between kicks.

PinkWitch803 Sat 05-Oct-13 18:29:17

Since posting this a couple of minutes ago, Razzle has been doing the cancan! I can't seem to move away from the paranoia. I can't sit still for the rest of my pg! sad

Stom91 Sat 05-Oct-13 18:49:27

pink I get that's sometimes... Yesterday all dd was beat me. Didnt stop all day then today she's been really quiet just small lil pops here and there and the odd kick.. Though she did have hiccups earlier which was funny.
Try not set worry I'm sure. Lil. One is fine and will have a busy day kicking you tomorrow smile

froubylou Sat 05-Oct-13 19:02:28

Sister now minus an appendix and back on ward. Baby doing ok so far and op went well. Just hope everything stays the same for them.

Her dp is useless tho and not in a endearing way. Dsis has been working every hour god sends to pay bills and save up for baby. Her dp is off sick from work because of stress. But he isn't actually stressed. Just doesn't like his job and is waiting to be made redundant. And has been for about 8 months. Have told him today it's time to nan up and get his arse back in work. The sooner he goes back the sooner they will make him redundant and he can move on. He was on good money too. Triple what dsis gets and she will be off for at least 6 weeks so if he doesn't do something they are going to get in a mess.

And I don't mean to sound as though I don't think stress is a legitimate reason to be off sick. It's just in his case I know he is playing the system whilst she supports them all.

Pink I had exactly the same yesterday. Just think baby moved deeper back iykwim?

MrsShrubs Sat 05-Oct-13 19:23:26

Well done on telling him to man up froub and glad all seems to be okay.

Just seen something I hadn't thought of for a hospital bag but a spare shirt & boxers for DP in case you're taken in in the middle of the night or labouring through the night so they also have something fresh to wear

PinkWitch803 Sat 05-Oct-13 19:24:13

Frou, you sound like a good sis. Lets hope mister gets the message.

Thanks for your reassurance on the LO. I sure I will get feet and arms in ribs and pelvis soon and will be whingeing about pain.

Alyssa1978 Sat 05-Oct-13 20:21:39

Hi everyone, can't believe I haven't posted on the new thread yet, just been busy with work etc.

nom thank you for the advice on the slings, I definately won't be buying a baby bjorn lol, what urge what we are doing yet.

stom sorry you were having a hard time with dp but glad you got it all out in the open with him and I hope you get your trip away

frouby Happy to hear dsis and baby are doing good, well done telling her dp to man up, sounds like he needs to.

mrs I have to admit I have never washed any of the new clothes I bought ds1 and 2 but now I use fairy non bio powder and comfort pure fabric conditioner and ds2 has very sensitive skin and they are fine for him.

everyone who is feeling the heat, I'm exactly the same and it doesn't help that my work has no air con.

My bags are all packed, mine and babies, I have in mine.....dressing gown and 2 nighties, about 5 pairs of knickers, maternity towels and breast pads, nipple cream, wash bag with deodrant shampoo etc in and towel, slippers, hair bobbles, clothes to come home in, breast feeding bras just need to put in snacks and pop for dp as I only drank a but if water in 25 hours lol

Babies bag has a towel, 7 body suits, 4 sleep suits, wipes and cotton wool as the first poos are a nightmare to get off baby and the only thing that works is cotton wool and warm water wipes didn't touch it, coming home outfit, blanket, hats, bibs, dummies, nappies, car seat and a coat.

No one got back in touch about my GTT test so it must have been fine.
Although the doctor keeps sending me smear letters confused I'm a bit occupied in there at the moment lol grin

Welcome all newbies and sorry if I missed anything, lots of posts since I was last on.

I'm having less kicks and more full on pushes, it feels like he's kicking my hip bones lol and under my right boob is so painful but numb to touch, I'll not miss that.

I have another growth scan Monday, so it'll be nice to see bump,again and see how much he weighs now grin

mumoftwoboysS Sat 05-Oct-13 20:39:28

Wow all of you talking about packing your bags are scaring me- I haven't even thought about it! Think I was 37 weeks or so when I did it last time! Tho I needn't have worried as we didn't need much anyway as we're only in for 7 hours. And DH forgot money to pay for parking in the rush!

BohemianRaspberry Sun 06-Oct-13 00:50:15

Looks like I'm kicking off the Night owls club tonight. Neighbours have had a late night party and it's triggered an anxiety attack so that's a no on sleep for me.

Wish I could knit properly now, give me something to do. Will just lie here and read the papers on my tablet and let Junior practice chacha on my bladder and to ignore the head demons.

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 01:00:10

I am still up, not sloghtly sleepy and feeling increasingly hot.

I had my concerns about movement earlier, so the fact my baby is clearly following the same dance class as yours bohemian, is quite reassuring smile

I am going to try to force myself to sleep in a minute and failing that, I will have to give up any hope for sleep tonight! So I may see you soon...

LadyMedea Sun 06-Oct-13 01:56:32

I'm really regretting that daytime nap now as I'm wide awake. I've just finished the book I was reading so not sure what to do next...

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 03:39:23

I had a nap too, but I would have really struggled if I didn't! You can't win, at least if you can't sleep, you know you aren't alone!

EmB1715 Sun 06-Oct-13 05:14:45

5am and been awake for an hour! Got woken up by a searing pain in top right side of bump. Felt like I was being burnt from the inside. Ouch.

Hope everyone is sleeping well tonight

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 08:24:57

I managed to get some good sleep between 4&8am, but that is going to be no help to me when I go back to work tomorrow and need to get up at 6:30!

It is all for a good cause, it is all for a good cause, it is all for a good cause <<says rocking back and forth>>

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 08:31:05

Right - as we've been talking hospital bags, please peruse the contents of mine and tell me what I'm missing - I'll be having a CS, even if labour starts early -

Button-front nightshirt
2 pairs pyjama bottoms
2 stretchy bras
2 vest tops
Light dressing gown
Breast pads
Maternity pads
Huge comfy granny pants
Wash bag with shampoo, conditioner, shower gel, hairbrush, toothbrush/paste, facial wipes, toner, moisturiser, paracetamol, codeine, enough of my regular meds to last 5 nights.

I'm not packing baby's bag until 35 weeks as before then he'll more than likely go into NICU for a bit and will neither need nor fit into the clothes and nappies I've got!

I need to put together a 'grab and go' makeup bag.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 08:34:39

Don't know whether to change the nightshirt for a bigger one, I can get it on now, I know I'm going to get bigger but it's for after the birth so my belly should've shrunk enough to get it on, right?

NomDeClavier Sun 06-Oct-13 09:22:07

feather not necessarily by that much and CS mothers often experience bloating and trapped wind. Are the pj bottoms nice and high and very loose?

I feel like I've been hit by a bus. sad Baby seems to be fairly relaxed at night, apart from wedging herself into uncomfortable positions, so I can't blame her!

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 09:29:27

They are, yes, there's plenty of room in them now and if I buy any bigger they'll be so big as to be useless by about day 3! I hope I've got the 'big but not TOO big' balance right!

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 09:29:48

And I have maternity yoga trousers as a standby just in case.

MrsShrubs Sun 06-Oct-13 09:35:05

featherbag deodorant & nipple cream and closer to the time don't forget some snacks like cereal bars etc

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 09:38:14

Ooh ta, forgot it bought deodorant to go in but haven't bought cream yet! Do I remember someone saying Amazon have good deals? Or was it Boots?

Featherbag if you know you could be in for a few days (especially if having a CS) then stuff like book/magazines/kindle and chargers etc. I find that no matter how exhausted I am I find it really hard to sleep in hospital and if I don't have something to distract me time goes by at a snails pace.

Also as I read on here somewhere, vaseline on babys bum makes it MUCH easier to get that horrible meconium off! grin

mumoftwoboysS Sun 06-Oct-13 09:46:00

feather throw-away paper pants are a good idea- you may only use 2 or 3 but the first few hours/day will be pretty messy - unless you just want to wear old pants that you'll throw away after.

I didn't bother with makeup but then first time only my mum visited us then we were out the next day, second time didn't get any visits as it was so short and I didn't care what I looked like!

I should have packed a spare pair of shoes -lol! As I gave birth fully clothed outside all my clothes got ruined including my shoes and went in a big hospital disposal bag to be incinerated. I had to wear those horrid blue plastic bags on my feet that they pull over shoes as I had nothing to wear!

I'm in such a bad mood- sorry for rant but whenever DH and I argue it's 99% of the time about money. Yesterday I went out for the day with old uni friends- something we do only once a year. He said enjoy it, treat yourself (with some of our weekly money) if you like. So I did- had a lovely day, only spent £20 on myself and bought a shirt in the sale for DS1. Today he has a go at me for spending money 'all the time'. I mean WTF. Now I feel so bloody guilty- I hardly ever buy stuff for myself, I felt guilty doing it anyway but thought it would be nice to have a treat esp as DH is going away on business for a week next week and I'll be looking after the kids. It's not like I went ona massive shopping spree. It really upsets me that one minute he says something like that the next he has a go. Now I feel like taking the bloody stuff back just so I don't look like the bad person spending all our money.

I don't spend a lot, I always try and look out for bargains and cook food frugally and when I occasionally buy something for myself I get shit for it. God, I really can't wait to get a job (which won't be till baby is at least 6 months old) just so I can say I'm contributing and not being a leach on our finances......

sorry rant over, just so frustrated about it....

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 09:57:49

I bought 15 pairs of multipack granny pants to wear and throw rather than endure paper pants! And iPad and charger will be on the 'grab on the way out of the door' list to ward off boredom. Haven't given much thought to coming home outfit but there'll be plenty of time to get DH to fetch stuff for me.

I bought a 5 pack of granny pants from primark a size up, just don't do what I did the first time and buy white ones, not a good idea! DP was dispatched very quickly to buy black ones to replace them and I think I ended up wearing them them for a good few weeks after DD was born - so much comfier than regular pants!

Also sling a couple of carrier bags or nappy sacks to put dirty clothes in.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 10:05:06

Erm, I've just realised my bump's dropped, it looks and feels very low!! I did have a shelf under my boobs leading to a big round belly, but now it kind of slopes! There's no baby right under my ribs! Anyone else get this?

itsliz Sun 06-Oct-13 10:12:26

Oh mum, that's rubbish sad
Really not something you need to be dealing with at the moment on top of everything else! Try not to let your DH make you feel too bad though, you're being as careful as you can and not doing anything wrong.

Sorry I haven't been on here for a while (it didn't seem like that long until I realised how many posts I had to catch up on!)
Been busy trying to force myself to do a bit of freelance work this week, which is not easy when I can't seem to concentrate on anything that's not baby-related! On the plus side though, got a letter from the tax man yesterday offering me a £500 tax rebate! Been having a lot of fun daydreaming about all the nice baby things I can buy with it smile

Seem to be in the same boat as everyone that's feeling hot and struggling to sleep at the moment - woke up around 4/5am nearly every day this week feeling achy and uncomfortable.
And the one night I managed to get a decent sleep, I woke up early because I'd left my contact lenses in and they were making my eyes hurt!
P-brain strikes again! grin

Really can't wait to start packing my hospital bag (how sad am I?!)
I've only just hit 28 weeks though so it still feels a bit early to be making a start on it...
For those who have done it before, is there anything that's absolutely essential to take? Or anything that's really useless and not worth bothering with at all?!

Pistachiotruffle Sun 06-Oct-13 10:32:06

Feather, how about a towel for you and possibly a flannel? Are you planning to bf? If not some hospitals request you bring your own milk (I believe mine does)
Amazon had Lansinoh cream for £6.66 and pads for 3.33 when purchased as an add on with something else, like the nappies Stom linked, so a good saving if you were planning on ordering something else anyway.

My hospital list is so long the midwives are going to think I'm moving in! I'd post it but you'll all laugh at me grin

mum, I can see why you are upset and frustrated, I would be too. Does he even realise how he's contradicting himself?

I will get round to posting the freebie links when I have access to a computer later I promise.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 10:53:56

I am planning to bf but might get an SMA starter pack with bottles just in case.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 10:54:32

Will add a towel, thanks!

MrsShrubs Sun 06-Oct-13 11:01:14

mum that's horrible, money always causes arguments. Don't feel guilty, especially if you've bought something for DS.

feather mine has dropped I was really round from the boobs down and now it's all compact around the tum. Feels as though I've shrunk!!

froubylou Sun 06-Oct-13 12:44:39

Morning all

Sister and baby OK at the min. Fingers crossed it stays that way for them!

Havent started my bag yet to be honest, but am only just over 28 weeks too so no big rush I don't think. Just taking the bare necessaties in with me. Hate hospitals and anything I do take in will go on a hot wash as soon as I get home, or straight in the bin! Will buy a couple of cheap nighties, a new pair of slippers and am taking my old dressing gown as it has seen better days and can be binned lol. Will chuck a pair of cropped mat leggings in as PJ bottoms, a pair of normal mat leggings and top to come home in and half a dozen pair of big knickers. I'm wearing bfing bras already so will try and go in with a black one on to give birth in (along with a vest top that can be binned) and chuck a clean one in my bag. Will also get a bag of mini toiletries ready, a towel and flannel and a little bag for baby.

Baby will have towel, vests, babygro's, hats and a couple of blankets. His coat will sit in car seat ready to be put on just to come home in. Though he will be coming straight from hosp to car which DP will have to bring around so may not even bother with coat as its not like he will get cold wrapped up in a blanket. Will see. Have a big fluffy pram suit but that may be too warm for car, so may just do a cardigan over the top.

Not panicing yet. Intend to stay at home as long as poss so will have plenty of time to start shoving stuff in. And if its a rush and I forget something can always get sister (who has a key) to dig it out for me and bring up.

My bump keeps changing shape too. My shelf gone, bump more pointy and lower down now too. Can breath a bit better though and I don't think he's sat on my bladder as much as I don't keep thinking I need a wee, and a few drips coming out lol.

Lovely day here. Me and DD just been up to ponies, given them a good brush and a pamper and dug their winter rugs and stuff out. Am lucky in that they live on my best friends yard so she does them for me twice a day and I only have to go up when I want to. Which is nice over winter lol. But its been lovely this morning just having pony cuddles and snogs! They are both very gentle around my bump too and Ros, the girl pony who has had a foal herself blows on it through her nose and snuffles it with her nose. Very, very cute! Just hope this baby likes ponies as much as DD otherwise me and DD will be going to ponies at a weekend and DP and baby will be off doing football or whatever he decides he likes!

Only thing about boys around ponies is they tend to be braver than little girls. So whilst DD at 9 is happy to tootle around on them, boys tend to want to jump and gallop which am not sure if my nerves will take. And can see my ponies being a bit dischuffed if they have to actually do any hard work lol.

WhisperMen Sun 06-Oct-13 16:38:16

Hello everyone!

frouby so glad your sis and baby are okay. Must have been terrifying for everyone involved.

mum that's pretty harsh of your DH. Perhaps he is just stressed, which I know isn't an excuse, but it does do strange things to people.

I have just got home from London after DP did his half marathon. He ran 13 miles in 22 degree heat the mental bastard! Raised £400 for charity doing it though, and I got free posh m&s sandwiches while I waited for him to finish. Bump really does not like the underground though. As soon as I got into the stations it went crazy kicking and didn't stop till I was above ground. No idea what was making it go so mental, perhaps the air pressure? I also seem to now get travel sickness too which is fun! I wanted to sleep on the way there and back but every time I closed my eyes for more than 5 minutes it felt like the car was spinning and I was nearly sick. So weird.

Hope you've all had brilliant weekends.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 16:56:08

So pleased your sister's doing well Frouby! Well, I made myself paranoid about the nightshirt not fitting so I took it back and got one 2 sizes bigger, that'll DEFINITELY fit! They also had a different patterned one half price so know have 2, feel better now.

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 17:05:15

I have bought two swimming tents from figleaves with the intention of sending one back. I just hope it is just one I send back and not both sad

I am going back to work tomorrow after two weeks off sick and I am a little nervous. At the moment I am exhausted after a couple of hours out of the house, let alone the 12 hours I face tomorrow! but we shall see. I would say, early night and a good night's sleep, but that isn't going to happen! not unless a miracle hits. I am aiming for 5 hours and that should be enough.

I hope your weekends have had some good moments that make you smile, you have made up with loved ones, sick are getting better and your babies are sending you all their love through kicks and headbutts smile

Stom91 Sun 06-Oct-13 17:54:20

smile me and dp made up and he got me a bunch of red roses to say sorry... He left at 8am this morning and I now won't see him until really late Tuesday sad
I really hate it when he's away. I really miss him..

Here's to a sleep filled week for all those who haven't been getting much x

Gannetgob Sun 06-Oct-13 18:16:25

Glad your sis is doing ok frouby and that you and DP have made up stom.

Tomorrow will be better than you think pink. I'm dreading going back after having 3 days off, so it must seem much worse for you! We will be fine though!

I haven't started my hospital bag yet. Seems like I need loads! Better get on with that soon!

Does anyone have a shaky baby? Baby is vibrating and I'm not sure why. It only happens for a second or 2, but my whole bump seems to just shake. Anyone else?

Nom, I've looked at those lilypadz but I'm still pretty clueless. Will they catch the milk or just absorb it? What are the shells you speak of? Who knew leaky boobs could cause such a fuss?

BohemianRaspberry Sun 06-Oct-13 18:22:24

stom saw your pretty roses on fb smile

Haven't started on bag yet - really need to think about that! Think I have all the stuff, it's just a case of assembly.

Managed to burn out for the day though: walking at the gym, walking all around town, standing in the kitchen cooking and hoovering all downstairs may have been overdoing it. Now out for the count on the sofa, DH may have to do tea at this rate.

It might mean I sleep tonight though. wink

Stom91 Sun 06-Oct-13 18:38:42

gannet I've been getting the same thing... Not sure what it Is... Maybe baby is shivering? Lol... I got like pops earlier like baby had hiccups. I'm not really getting full on kicks just small movements

NomDeClavier Sun 06-Oct-13 18:52:47

breast shells

Lilypadz are like breast pads but instead of letting the milk drip out and absorbing it they actually stop your boobs leaking by creating a seal using suction. You get a tiny amount of leakage but it's not the dripdripdrip with breast pads and the bonus is if you get chafed or cracked nipples when BFing they promote moist wound healing but keeping your nipple damp in nice antibacterial breast milk instead if conventional pads which will dry your nipple and make the pad stick to the fragile skin.

Shells are a bit like the boob equivalent of a moon cup and standard pads are like sanitary towels!

Glad DP has seen sense stom

Xenadog Sun 06-Oct-13 19:36:38

Nom thanks for that bit of info about the lilypadz - I did wonder how they worked and what they did.

Not sure about BFing - I think if it works right from the start I will pursue it but if not I'm not putting myself through the stress of trying to get a baby to feed. I know too many people who have struggled and really suffered when trying to get a baby to breast feed. What are everyone else's plans?

Just had roast pork dinner with crackling and it was so lovely. Not really wanting to go back to work tomorrow as I had open morning on Saturday so only had one and a half day weekend. Boo.

Hope everyone gets a decent Sunday night sleep too.

Alyssa1978 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:08:41

Mmmmm dp is making us steak, veg, roast potatoes and puddings, can't wait.
He also finished painting the nursery today while I was at work, one wall blue and the rest white, looks lovely bless him.
Growth scan tomorrow at 3pm, bump was 2llb 7oz 5 weeks ago at 27 weeks so it'll be interesting to see how much weight he's put on.

Lucky you stom I love roses.

Thank you for the nappy tip on amazon who recommended it, I got 2 boxes of newborn, 2 of size 2 and 10 packs of buggies wipes all for £40, very happy with that grin

Alyssa1978 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:09:37

Huggies wipes that is lol

Chilli81 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:17:23

I feel slightly better now I've started to get organised. got loads of maternity pads and breast pads at mothercare as they were 3 for 2. also got these gel pads to soothe your boobs when your milk first comes in. you can put them in the fridge or warm them. don't know if they'll work but they were reduced to 4 quid from around 15 so thought I'd give them a try.
gannet I found breast feeding quite tough at first with ds1 but it was something I really felt strongly I wanted to do. some.lucky women find it easy but I didn't. I persevered though and so glad I did. once I got the hang of it, it was so convenient and cheap not to mention the health benefits to baby. I understand though that it's a sensitive subject and I totally don't agree with putting yourself through it if you are finding it all too much. there's so much pressure to bf that sometimes I find women pour undue pressure on themselves and end up miserable. my approach was very much taking it one day at a time knowing everyday I was able to bc was beneficial to my baby but that I would stop if it became too much. sorry if that's a really long rant but when ds1 was born I found myself totally unprepared for bf and felt like a failure when it wasn't really straight forward.

Stom91 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:17:39

Bargain! Glad in could help lol....

Is it 10 movements and hour or 10 movements a day???

Chilli81 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:19:59

oops just realised it was xenadog not ,gannet,, who posted about bf. that's the problem with posting on smartphones. once you start writing you can't go back. wink

itsliz Sun 06-Oct-13 20:32:11

Hope the scan goes ok tomorrow Alyssa smile Got my 28 week appointment tomorrow so fingers crossed my midwife is happy with how little bean is getting on...

DP has been an absolute star today and cooked us a Sunday roast with the full works - roast beef, veg, yorkshire puds, stuffing, gravy, roast potatoes, mmmm grin
We're now lazing on the sofa feeling very full, new Yankee Candle burning, rubbish telly on... Perfect way to end the weekend!

Hope you all get a good sleep tonight and have a relaxing, stress-free, pain-free week!

EmB1715 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:34:07

Frouby glad your sis is doing well. Must be so scary to have an operation when pregnant.

We're starting our NCT antenatal classes tomorrow night. Has anyone done/is anyone doing them too? Don't know what to expect!

EmB1715 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:34:47

Oh and Whisper congrats to your DP. which charity did he raise for?

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 20:44:29

Stom, it is per hour.

Xenadog Sun 06-Oct-13 20:46:57

Chilli I think that's the right attitude about BF.

One friend who had her first baby in New Zealand told me the story of how her DS couldn't feed from her and he ended up losing loads of weight during the first 2 weeks. The nurses and HV kept telling her to persevere and showed her loads of videos about feeding your own baby but in all the videos the women were maori women.

Finally my friend was crying on a new HV's shoulder and the HV told her to just give him formula and not to worry as she has "European nipples" and they aren't very good for bfing with!

NomDeClavier Sun 06-Oct-13 20:53:04

xena I didn't find BF 'easy' - we had recurrent thrush and it was time consuming, and DS had undiagnosed lip and tongue tie but it was something I was very focused on doing and tbh if I'd stopped it might have pushed me over the edge with PND. This time I guess I'm in the lucky position that I know I can do it physically, I'm training to support other people so I know about the possible problems and how to combat them and I hopefully won't have PND so won't feel that FF is a 'failure'. Expressing may be impractical and the odd feed after 6 weeks isn't going to mess up my supply irrevocably. But I do plan to BF exclusively as much as possible because I've worked 24/6 which full time FF babies and it's so much more tiring.

I do know that if it's not going well it's worth getting what support you can, but if you can't get that support FF isn't poison as long as you're preparing feeds correctly.

Featherbag Sun 06-Oct-13 21:10:09

Watching Downton is giving me flashbacks to DS's teeny tiny newborn days, I just CAN'T WAIT to meet his little brother!

Gannetgob Sun 06-Oct-13 21:23:46

Thanks Nom. Lilypadz do seem like the way forward! Thanks for your help! I really want to BF but I am not going to put pressure on myself. If it works, it works, if not, no problem. I'll give it a go and see what happens!

Stom, glad its not just me with the shaking! I might ask the midwife about it on Wednesday.

Em, I start my NCT classes on Thursday. Are you doing a normal antenatal course? Mine is about 14 hours I think, a few nights then an all day Saturday in a few weeks. I'm feeling a bit nervous about it I think. You will have to let me know how it goes!

Any changing bag recommendations? I thought a changing bag is a changing bag. I've been told this is not the case and there is lots to think about!

EmB1715 Sun 06-Oct-13 21:40:11

Gannet..yes normal antenatal course, average 2 evenings a week. I'm looking forward to it just worried about long days at work and then being out all evening! It's an hour's drive away bleurghh! I'll let you know how it goes smile

Xenadog Sun 06-Oct-13 21:53:04

Nom I think I might be turning to you for advice on the old BF stakes in about 10 - 12 weeks time then! I have no idea about any of what's going to happen to me as haven't been called for the antenatal classes yet!

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 22:31:31

I am doing the NHS classes and not NCT. I am happy I will get the advice I need and get to meet some other pregnant ladies. The only downer is that as they are in the daytime, my DP can only make it to two of the four. But he is going to see if work will release him!

As for changing bags, I read not to worry too much about the bag until your little one arrives. You might want a cavernous sack, but you might find it easier to have compartments and be uber organised. Also, don't get too caught up on spending too much money on a fancy bag. You might get just what you need from one of those bag shops in every town centre!

PinkWitch803 Sun 06-Oct-13 22:32:22

But one strap to hang on the buggy is also a good idea.

thecherryontop Sun 06-Oct-13 22:48:04

Hi everyone! Feel like I'm learning so much trying to catch up on all of your posts grin just wondered if anyone could help me; I've seen growth scans mentioned a few times... I'm 31 weeks and none of the midwives I've seen have mentioned another scan -last one I had was at 25 weeks as the baby was in the wrong position to measure the heart at 20 weeks.. Is this something I should be getting or does it depend where you live? -I'm in london and to say the ante natal department is manic would be an understatement! They haven't given me any indication of weight at all... In a way I'd like to know so that I can mentally prepare for it smile during the last scan the sonographer was manually entering some info and didn't put anything about weight? Hope someone can help smileXx

mumoftwoboysS Sun 06-Oct-13 22:53:50

Well DH did apologise in the end for his rant about my spending. He says he wasn't having a go at me (could have fooled me!) and is just frustrated by how much 'we' are spending. So anyway, new action plan to spend less now....I know he's also a bit stressed as he left to go on a business trip for a week so had a lot on his mind. (just wish he wouldn't take it out on me)

left with 2 very demanding kids plus potty training one of them, plus horrendous back ache. Thank god my mum came over for dinner and helped with the cooking/tidying at least.

Xena I'm very keen to BF but having failed before, seem to really struggle with it so am a bit anxious about it all going pear shaped again. But it won't stop me trying.

Nom thanks for info on Lilipadz - I hadn't heard of them before and sound like just what I need- I remember the pain of using throw away breast pads and them sticking to my already sore nipples- and if there's one thing I need is something to help them heal as I'm dreading sure I'm going to get sore cracked nipples again. Will add them to my list of essentials.

actually whilst we're on the subject of BF, Nom do you know if a clicking sound is normal when BF? I read somewhere that it means the latch isn't good. I had this with DS2 and tho he seemed to be feeding contentely there was a definite clicking sound when he sucked. A day or so later I had badly cracked bleeding nipples sad I do also have flat nipples and don't know if that means I'm at a disadvantage as they are pulled out unnaturally when they're feeding if you know what I mean?

stom and gannet I've been getting that too- almost like a shudder or vibration that starts then stops quite suddenly. I have thought about it and can't imagine what baby is doing in there but assume it's normal - especially if other people have felt it too!

I had a roast too, yum, so full, but just got hungry again so had some cereal. Time for bed now me thinks!

Stom91 Sun 06-Oct-13 22:57:28

Hi cherry. I think you only get growth scans if they're worried about stuff.. I haven't had any.. My last scan was at 20 weeks .. Though I'd love to see lil one again & I quite like to know how big she's got...

Let me know what the mw says about the shaking gannet!!

LadyMedea Sun 06-Oct-13 23:03:47

Hi cherry unless you have any additional factors for your pregnancy i.e. high blood pressure, high BMI, dodgy blood results. You only get two scans at 12 and 20 weeks. baby's size is roughly monitored by your bump size and you might be referred for a scan if you are measuring well above or below dates (it's roughly a cm a week, so at 30 weeks bump measures approximately 30cm give or take). Some of the ladies on here have additional risk factors... I've got high BP so I get an additional scan at 36 weeks.

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 00:06:51

I think growth scans relate to your fundal height measurements. If everything. Is hunky dory, there isn't a need for a growth scan. Although it may also have something to do with gestational diabetes. I am guessing, so someone else might know more.

I am getting a scan at 36 weeks to check my placenta has moved but otherwise no other scans planned.

BohemianRaspberry Mon 07-Oct-13 00:26:24

I was 1.5cm over last time and they mentioned the possible need for a growth scan.

Hope everyone else is managing a good night's sleep smile

thecherryontop Mon 07-Oct-13 01:33:34

Thanks ladies, I was told I had an anterior placenta at each scan -think I will ask the midwife at next appointment... I think maybe because each time I go to the midwife it's a different one -doesn't give me as much confidence as if it was the same one each time. Hope that makes sense... Maybe I just need to relax!?!

Do any if you who struggle with spd not sleep at night? -I'm now in the routine of not sleeping till almost 4 as by then I'm so tired and can sleep through it better.

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 03:01:51

I have an anterior placenta and they still only plan to scan you if they see any problems. Mone happens to be low lying so they need to check it is out of the way of the os at 36 weejs or it is cs for me. Sorry if I wasn't clear earlier. Also, i had a bleed at 26 weeks so they did a scan to check placenta was still fully attached.

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 03:03:53

Have you tried sleeping with a pillow between your knees and under your bump? Have you been refered to physio for it by your mw?

thecherryontop Mon 07-Oct-13 03:13:50

Oh ok I understand,

yes -I've had physio, got the pillow, been fitted for a brace and am on crutches... Just glad there's not long left! I'm not getting any more physio as they said it can't be reversed so just need to try & manage it. I've been signed off work which helps as I'm not stressing as much about that on top of everything else and can take things at my own pace & lie down etc when I need to.

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 04:26:35

I am discussing work with my consultant this week and can't help thinking being signed off would be better. I get myself so wound up about work that I get less sleep than normal! Tonight is a prime example. I am going back to work after two weeks off sick and had approximately two hours sleep. I am shattered, but everytime I lie down to sleep, my eyes ping open, or my bladder tells me I need to pee.

I just hope that with tonight and work later, I will sleep tomorrow night and not be ill in between. Oh I sound like such a grumpy old woman when I am usually so positive and cheery sad

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 04:29:28

Sorry about your psd. Make sure you do your pelvic floor exercises, you want to give your pelvis the best chance possible smile

Plus, I find it helps with pelvic pain smile

DaleyBump Mon 07-Oct-13 04:44:44

I've not been on here in AAAAAAGES. Bear (eh Whisper? wink) with me while I catch up!

DaleyBump Mon 07-Oct-13 04:56:49

Pink it sounds like you could do with some time off sad remember if you take too long off on sick it starts to use up your mat leave (or something, I might be talking rubbish).

cherry I totally feel for you, I have only mild SPD and I'm really struggling. I have trouble sleeping at night too, it's 10 to 5 and I've not slept yet and I have such a busy day tomorrow with wedding planning and flat-going-to-see and a midwife appointment (must pee in pot, must pee in pot).

I've been off on mat leave since 29 weeks (now 32+2) because I was unable to participate in my uni course (nursing) and my choice was either to defer for a year (unpaid) or to go on mat leave for 45 weeks (paid). I took the mat leave but I'd already been off since May which is when my last course finished so I am totally stir crazy. I'm in my 6th month of being off, I can't take it any more!

stom and gannet and mum, I've been getting that funny vibration too, It really confuses me! No idea what it is!

Is anyone else's belly clicking? It started a couple of weeks ago and I asked about it here and apparently it's not uncommon, it's so weird though!

I've had about 10 scans so far (blush) because of periods of reduced movement which totally used to panic me but now when it happens I just get all huffy and fed up that I have to travel an hour and a half to sit in the hospital for four hours to be told everything is fine and then travel the hour and a half back again. It's really stressful having to keep a kick count (on request of the consultant) but at least it means I know when I should be worrying.

On a side note, my belly button popped out today. Properly out and won't go back in. I kind of love it.

That was a huge ramble, sorry!

DaleyBump Mon 07-Oct-13 04:58:14

Or blush even.

meandbumpy Mon 07-Oct-13 05:35:57

Hello ladies, I'm due December 10th with my first bambino, can I join you? smile

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 06:11:22

Hello meandbumpy, welcome.

daleybump I have looked into sick/maternity leave. Work can put me on mat leave four weeks before my due date which is only two weeks earlier than I had booked, so can suck it up . The only thing I need to check out is what will happen to my annual leave. Technically, I have to use it before April as I can't carry it over tax years, but they might make an exception!

I am sorry you are bored. Have you picked up any hobbies?

meandbumpy Mon 07-Oct-13 06:35:41

Thanks PinkWitch803

It's comforting to read about others that are suffering with aches and pains and the lack of sleep that comes with them; I usually find I'm up from about 4am for a few hours every night.
Does anyone else have upper back pain, just below the shoulders and along the spine? I did try a pregnancy yoga dvd earlier on but as I've got bigger it's become impossible and just made things worst. I've read that a few people have been referred for physio and wondering if there's a knack to getting this? I've been to see both my midwife and doctor about the pain i'm in and they keep shrugging it off as 'just a pregnancy thing'. Perhaps I should be more of a drama queen about it and kick and scream til they do something!? Any advice welcome!!

itsliz Mon 07-Oct-13 08:24:05

DaleyBump, thank you so, so, soooo much for mentioning peeing in a pot!!! I've got my 28 week appointment this morning and definitely would've forgotten if I hadn't read your post!

A very warm welcome to all our newbies! smile
If you haven't already done so, feel free to add yourselves to our stats thread and/or Facebook group.

I'll post properly with links etc later, but for now I'm off to make sure I don't forget anything else before waddling down to the doctor's surgery...

LadyMedea Mon 07-Oct-13 08:28:29

Hey meandbumpy It seems to be easy enough to get a physio referral for SPD (although mine took over two weeks and is a group session... So we'll see how useful it is on Wednesday) but if it's your upper back they may not put it in the same category. You could always do what I do and look it up on YouTube and see if there are anything specific exercises to try! Otherwise it's go private if you can afford it or paracetamol and hot water bottle...

WhisperMen Mon 07-Oct-13 08:47:26

your bear made it over here too dale What a well travelled bear!

Welcome meandandbumpy

to all those counting down till mat leave I feel for you. Pregnancy is bloody hard work without adding the stress of work on top. I have been unemployed/studying for the last few years which isn't fun. Money is always such an issue.

I think my step sister might have PND. She has had her baby for about 4 months and has recently stopped going out anywhere to meet anyone and is acting really differently. I am going to see her today with cake to try and find out what is wrong. Does anyone have any advice?

PinkWitch803 Mon 07-Oct-13 09:25:36

Google. You might find some useful advice. Maybe call the midwives for advice.

Try the nhs websites and try lift psychology (the Swindon site has had great feedback)


kchapper5 Mon 07-Oct-13 09:29:28

Morning guys after being in horrendous pain from what I'm guessing is spd since Friday I've not gone into work and am at the drs in half an hour. I plan on being quite dramatic grin and to be fair I've been in tears with the pain trying to walk upstairs which isn't like me at all. I didn't even cry when I chipped my spine by falling off my rearing horse onto concrete.
Not much advice from me I don't have much experience of pnd just try talking to her I guess see what you can do to help in anyway. Hope she's ok

Alyssa1978 Mon 07-Oct-13 10:01:34

Ahhhhh day one of a week off....having to use the last of my annual holidays in case I don't go back until after April next year and I'd loose them.

Only 3 weeks to work when I get back then I start mat leave, I'll be 36 weeks then, but every child I've had I've gone into labour exactly a week after starting mat leave hmm

So sorry to hear about all the pain everyone's having.
I'm not feeling kicks anymore, just full on pushes etc, he must have ran out of room.

Enjoy your days everyone.

Welcome newbies flowers

Alyssa1978 Mon 07-Oct-13 10:04:14

Forgot to say when packing your hospital bag it's a good idea to put a Plastic bag in, to hold any wet towels etc after showering.

Ooh I just remembered I didn't put nappies bags in babies case and boy did I need them last time and time before.

abcdemma Mon 07-Oct-13 10:25:33

Hey meandbumpy
Just under 3 weeks left of work for me, can't bloody wait!!! Suffering with my back but by the time I get a referral it'll be time to leave so I'll have to suck it up! Deep heat pads have been helping but they bloody slip off after a couple of hours so they go in the bin envy
Serious case of baby brain this morning... made sure I had the morning off for flu jab, got up early and everything, only to arrive and be told it's tomorrow! Mortified lol.
Hope everyone feels good/better today smile

meandbumpy Mon 07-Oct-13 10:47:40

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the advice LadyMedea. I have another doctors appointment tomorrow morning to try again and will look on youtube today for help in the meantime. I think I'm getting SPD as well (pains in my pelvis and hips that make it hard to walk) and they've been quite casual about that too. I think the midwives here tend not to get too involved unless you're high risk in some way. If it's just aches and pains and the usual annoyances you're told to deal with it and sent on your way.
In fact if I didn't have mumsnet and One Born for research I'd have been completely clueless about pregnancy and birth! Anyway, hope you're physio session goes well and gives you relief smile

I don't know much about PND either but my best friend has had depression for years now and the best thing I've been able to do to help is to just be there and listen. Quite often she has odd or strange thoughts and I think it's good for her to know that she can voice them and I won't judge her or make her feel like a crazy person. Also, plenty of sleep, exercise and a healthy diet seem to do wonders, but I imagine these are like gold dust when you have a new born baby to look after.

mumoftwoboysS Mon 07-Oct-13 14:05:29

daley is the clicking like a ticking feeling inside? I get this but it's the baby having hiccups. Not sure if that's what you're feeling?

God I'm so tired today. went to bed late so it's my own fault and now I'm annoyed at myself for just lounging around whilst DS2 naps instead of doing stuff. And now I'm having a cuppa and a twix! Should really eat some fruit at some point today...

NomDeClavier Mon 07-Oct-13 15:34:23

mum I know the feeling, except DS doesn’t nap and I’m just faffing instead of getting stuff done while he’s occupied with stickers.
Clicking sounds while Bfing are not normal if they carry on throughout the feeds. It means the seal around the breast has been broken, so feeding isn’t efficient. Some babies pull off because you have a fast letdown and you can get a click for a couple of sucks, sometimes an ear infection, teething or thrush can cause a temporary click because the baby is in pain. An overfull breast can be difficult for a baby to get a latch on in the first place and cause a click. Sort the external problem and you should sort the click. In your case it might have been because your DS was trying to suck his tongue and you ended up with a shallow latch which shreds nipples.

If you have flat nips you might find that a classic cradle hold is less effective for you and you’re better off with biological nursing or a rugby ball hold. Flat nipples certainly don’t mean you can’t BF but they can make it harder if baby has a small mouth or tongue tie. However it’s breast feeding, not nipple feeding, and baby should have a good mouthful of nipple, aereola and breast tissue, which all gets squooshed up anyway so the shape of your nipples is (to a certain extent) irrelevant. If you’re worried then breast shells (not shields) will help draw them out. In fact I’d be putting shells on your list ahead of Lilypadz smile

Hello mean! Does your pregnancy yoga DVD not have adapted poses for later in pregnancy? I find yoga brilliant for dealing with spine related aches and pains.

Alyssa I’m really jealous of you having such little work left! I think I’ll still be going by the time half of you have had your babies!

daley I thought mine was going in for most scanned baby (we’ve had 5 so far and 1 more due) but you’re beating me hands down.

I’ve been feeling really short of breath, and according to my bloods this morning I’m anaemic which might be causing it. DH was oh so sympathetic when I told him on the phone – ‘yeah, I thought you’ve been looking really pale recently.’ Thanks darling hmm nothing like making a girl feel beautiful, is there?! No GD though as far as I can interpret. My system seems to metabolise glucose just fine.

DaleyBump Mon 07-Oct-13 16:11:24

mum, no, it's like when you crack a knuckle. It happens when he moves his feet, I think he has clicky joints smile all my joints click so it wouldn't be that unusual smile

Nom, I have another one next tuesday! Glad you don't have GD, I'm anaemic too and it's relatively easy to control it you remember to take your iron smile

5ammy Mon 07-Oct-13 18:50:41

Hi ladies,

Just another suggestion for those breastfeeding - I BF'd DS1 no prob's but DS2 was a nightmare! I was in agony every time he latched on - was awful. I refused to give up as I knew it wasn't 'normal' and attended every BF group I could find so I could get some help. Finally an experienced midwife saw that he had thrush - hence my agonising nipples. She recommended I get some Jelonet - Vaseline soaked gause. I used to cut it up and put that over my cracked/sore nipples before the breastpad. Was safe for baby and stopped breast pads from sticking to sore nipples. T'was a life saver (maybe quite literally as I had awful PND). After he was treated for thrush we managed to BF just fine, and my poor nipples got better. :-)

Cried at uni' on Friday - I've decided to stay on my course until absolutely necessary - although I need to do some risk assessments before I go in the labs as not sure microbiology labs are a great place for heavily pregnant women. Anyway, I went in to register and they refused to see me on the basis I was a 'returning student', despite there being no-one else there. I explained I had come in especially to register, no I couldn't come back later as I work and have 2 kids to pick up from school - they'd just registered someone else from my course, they weren't busy etc and then burst into tears. They must have thought I was a mad hormonal woman. Finally managed to register today in between lectures, but took an hour, as this time they were busy, and I almost fainted queuing up for so long.

I don't start my maternity leave from work until my due date - they wouldn't let me book it any later! I can't do my normal job when pregnant, so sit in an office doing not a great deal - seems silly to go on mat leave earlier then I need to, may as well get paid a decent wage for longer and do very little at work as opposed to do very little at home.

I haven't thought about hospital bag really yet. Both my DS's were late, and induced, so I'm not expecting to have this baby before my due date - watch it be early now.

As for PND all I can say is listen, listen, listen, I don't think it's picked up a lot of the time. I had it with both DS's, the 2nd time I didn't realise until I caught myself planning on how I could manage to successfully kill myself but make sure the kids came with me to (as I didn't want to leave them without a mum) - I went through various scenarios of how I could do it, but I couldn't think of a way that would guarentee none of us would survive. After a while of thinking things through like this (often I'd be looking for 'opportunities' when driving with them in the car) - I realised I had 'issues'.

I spoke to a very good friend who had me stay with her, I talked and talked and talked - she listened. Things got better. Not great - but, well, I'm still here and my boys are fine young men.

Really sorry, just realised that's an epic post. I have t proof read it as I just realised its youngests bed time. Sorry for any iPhone related typos.


meandbumpy Mon 07-Oct-13 20:02:13

Hi Nom my dvd does have a late pregnancy bit but even struggling with that now. I've been making a list of all my symptoms today ready to bombard the doctor tomorrow and tbh I'm beginning to think that perhaps the cause of a lot of them are down to the dreaded constipation causing extra pressure and weight. Sorry if TMI!

Thanks for the invite to add my stats, not sure how i do this though can someone please explain? blush

Alyssa1978 Mon 07-Oct-13 20:22:04

Scan went fine, baby still head down and weighs approx 4llb 7oz so he's put on 2llb in 5weeks.
Apparently my GTT test was fine but my urine sample showed some glucose so they are just watching it.

Saw the boy bits again so its good to know all the blue clothes and nursery furniture etc wasn't in vain lol.

Bp was 130/80 when its always 120/70 but she said that was fine so that's good, have my mw appt on Thursday so I guess she will be doing all the same again.

How many weeks pg are you nom ?

Just got back from a yearly festival a neighbouring town has and we won ds1 a HUGE Spider-Man teddy, well its actually the height of me and actually looks like its gonna come to life and web us all confused

Have a good night everyone xx

BohemianRaspberry Mon 07-Oct-13 21:49:20

Hi mean and the toy sounds very cool Alyssa

Thank you for your honest post on PND 5ammy I know I am at risk of it, already having anxiety/depression issues. Hopefully having made it very clear with MW and Doctor should help with it being spotted.

Should so not be watching Midwives ... making me all hormonal and tearful.

MrsShrubs Mon 07-Oct-13 22:33:52

Will catch up properly tomorrow morning as I've missed loads but I'm just so excited because I squeezed a boob and liquid came out!!!!!!! Never felt more like a mammal in my life but in a very good way!

mumoftwoboysS Mon 07-Oct-13 22:44:10

Thanks nom for the bf info/advice- really appreciate it-any extra info I can get now could help me be more successful this time round- and I'll look into breast shells- is that what you called them? On my phone so can't look back at your post- will look later! The frustrating thing is I was told baby had a good latch then a day later the cracked bleeding nipples started so obviously something wasn't right!

5ammy how awful to go through that, but great that you're sharing it as it could help someone else who may not know they have PND.

Have the worst heartburn/indigestion tonight and I can feel even the usually great Gaviscon struggling to keep it at bay sad time to try and sleep tho, knackered...

Alyssa1978 Tue 08-Oct-13 07:45:42

Lol mrs makes me remember how excited I got too grin

Mum i haven't really had much luck with bf either, ds1was fed through a tube for the first few days and not much seemed to come out of me at all so i gave up after a bit and ds2 was always feeding near the beginning and i was tired and made the worst ever decision to let dp top him up with formula and after that my milk never seemed to satisfy him, I think if I hadn't done that it may have gone ok.

It wasn't until after the fact the hv told me because I'd had dia morphine it makes baby more hungry the first few days until its out of the system completely, so to just feed on demand as itll ease after a couple of days, but it was too late as id already topped him up sad
I'm determined to give it a good try this time, no formula in the house etc. i have to admit i felt guilty also as dp and pil wanted to give ds2 bottles and i was bf all be it not very long or successfully

ive got my tough head on this time, so if yous wanna bond then do the nappy changes grin also get some Lanolin, the stuffs a god send but its a shame you were told the latch was good and the cracked nipples came, I hope it goes well for you this time but don't beat yourself if it doesn't. I'm gonna give it a good try and if it works great but if not then it will be formula, the other 2 have turned out fine but very noisy lol

On the heartburn topic......ouch bloody ouch, I was up at 2am searching for the gaviscon and a cup of cold milk, but I did have pastry and was naughty and had a coke during the day, both of which cause heartburn anyway so I need to step away from the good stuff smile

MrsShrubs Tue 08-Oct-13 09:00:32

To all the ladies for the BF info thanks so much, I need to call the GPs to find out about any NHS classes around our way, MW didn't mention anything to me at 28 week appointment about any classes and I forgot to ask.

Welcome to the new December baby ladies flowers

5ammy really admire you for sharing your story and like mum says you might end up helping people out who don't realise they have it either.

Glad all went well Alyssa with the scan, really want to see little man again - also to doubley check he is 'little man' although there should be no doubt as he gave us a very good flash at the 20w scan!

Do people have any good baby shower games? I am being incredibly spoilt and having two, one back up in my old home town in the midlands thrown by my mum and she wants some ideas as she's never thrown one or been to one before. The other my friends are doing for me in Kent and are taking care of the games etc.

PinkWitch803 Tue 08-Oct-13 09:46:49

Meandbumpy - i copied and pasted the last post in the stats thread and just added my details to the bottom. Not sure if that was right, but it seemed to work!

itsliz Tue 08-Oct-13 10:42:43

meandbumpy sorry I didn't get chance to post as promised yesterday, the stats thread for you to add your details can be found here:

We also have a Facebook group, which you can join by PMing your details to DaleyBump or Whisper smile

Alyssa, so glad to hear your scan went well! Really wish we cold have another one just to see little boys bits again - they were pretty clear on the 20 week scan, but every time I buy something blue I start doubting myself!

And 5ammy thank you for sharing your experiences. Must have been horrible to have to go through that but I'm so glad you were able to ask for help and that you're still here to tell the tale. You sound like you're a great mum to your two boys smile

MW appointment went well yesterday, ended up with one that I'd never seen before but she seemed nice enough... Despite telling me that she was running late because her last patient fainted on her(!) and then refusing to try and take blood from my better arm (cue several failed attempts and a very bruised arm!)
Apparently little one is all good but measuring slightly large for dates, which she said is probably down to me rather than him... i.e. I'm getting bloody huge grin

I was awake for half the night with awful heartburn as well. Downing half a bottle of Gaviscon didn't seem to make much difference though so if anyone knows of any other remedies that work then feel free to let me know!

meandbumpy Tue 08-Oct-13 11:32:45

ohhhhhh, so that's what a stats thread is, HA! I've copied and pasted and added myself in, thanks Pink and itsliz

Alyssa1978 Tue 08-Oct-13 12:19:02

its sometimes I find that a glass of cold milk works wonders if there's no gaviscon at hand ooh and I tried a packet of Trebor soft mints and that seemed to help too.

Not sure about any games mrs no ones ever thrown me a shower sad
I did see one on the tv though were everyone had to drink (a drink of your choice) out of a baby bottle and the first one to finish won a prize.
I've only ever been to an Ann summers party with games which I don't think would help you here and would be slightly inappropriate lol

I've been cleaning the kitchen and downstairs toilet today like a mad women, maybe my nesting is kicking in smile
Baby feels like he's pushing down a lot too, lots of pressure low down.....anyone else??

lisbapalea Tue 08-Oct-13 12:21:05

Hi all

Am stressing, probably totally unnecessarily. Just called the Dr's to check on my 28wk blood test results and apparently I have to make an appointment to see the Dr.

Just feel annoyed as it's a faff to arrange an appointment - I have to call at 8.30am tomorrow to see if I can get a last minute appt for that day, or do the same on Friday, or wait until next week. Which means I will be worrying why they need to see me until I do actually see someone.

Anyone know what they're looking for at the 28wk blood tests - is it likely to be anaemia, or anything nastier?

I have been feeling totally fine, a bit knackered and breathless but I put that down to being a) a bit overweight anyway, b) unfit - dog walking is my only exercise and c) pregnant, and nothing more serious.

Aside from this blood test irritation, all is good with me though. My sore arm after the whooping cough jab went down, and I now feel brave enough to book my flu jab, which I will do once I have seen the Dr.

DH has a day off work on Friday, and my Mum will be looking after DD from Fri-Sun, so that we can decorate her room, as well as the baby's. I think we have our work cut out - DH has never picked up a paintbrush in his life, so it could be entertaining!

That is the extent of our organisation and prep for this baby though - I am very alarmed by seeing people write about prepping hispital bags etc - I am properly head in the sand about it all at the moment. I finish work on the 7th Nov so am hoping to get it all sorted then. Most of our baby stuff is with various friends, so am trying to gather it all back, and then hopefully remind myself what it's all about and what I need to do! Someone please reassure me I am not leaving it too late!!

Chilli81 Tue 08-Oct-13 12:38:56

lisbapalea I haven't started on my hospital bag either. I have started buying some bits like maternity pads but that's it. I also need to gather stuff from friends but will do that once I'm off work.
When I called to get my 28 weeks blood results, they just told me that my iron levels were fine so I guess maybe they want to see you to give you some iron tablets if your results showed they were a bit low.
5ammy - I agree with others. Was very brave to share. It sounds like a terrifying experience. Hopefully anyone who has similar feeling will know that that they aren't alone.
Hope everyone else is ok. I am feeling quite happy at the moment as my SPD seems to be not as bad as it has been. I don't want to tempt fate by not going to my physio appt later but is so nice to not be in so much pain. Touch wood it doesn't get really bad again. My huge sympathies for any of you who are suffering from this.

kerryc29 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:20:56

lisbapalea I had my 28 week bloods taken yesterday (even though I am 30 weeks on Thursday - for some reasons my appointments are running a week or so late).

I received a call from the doctor this morning to inform me that the tests show I am slightly anaemic and that I need to pick up a prescription for iron tablets. I know that the previous surgery I was at the reception staff would not give results over the phone as they are not medically trained and they didn't seem to over the service which my current surgery does of having a doctor phone you. I therefore assume it is just protocol they are following. I know that the other thing they tested for yesterday in the bloods was antibodies levels. In terms of the anaemia I am relieved in the sense that these iron tablets should make me feel better than I have in the past few weeks and from what I gather has no impact upon baby. I hope you get an appointment asap.

itsliz my bump too measured big - in fact 3 weeks ahead of schedule! The midwife hasn't weighed me since my booking appointment and suggested that it was all baby (from what she could feel). I have a scan booked for 4 weeks time for a low lying placenta issue so she said they will measure baby then - have you had to be booked in for a measurement scan?

Hope everyone is keeping well. I made the mistake of watching the Midwife program on BBC 2 last night - I suddenly feel very nervous!!!!

EmB1715 Tue 08-Oct-13 13:53:25


So we went to our first NCT class last night. It was really good! I'm quite a clued up person but learnt so much! It's also nice to have a good whinge with the other pregnant women as I don't know any others! The men also had their own group discussion about how they are feeling about everything, which is good as I don't think they often get the chance to voice their thoughts and feeling on the subject

WhisperMen Tue 08-Oct-13 14:11:45

Hello everyone.

Wow, thanks for sharing your experiences with us 5ammy it really helps to know about signs and stuff.

I haven't started my hospital bag yet either. I suppose I should probably start looking at stuff soon.

I am fully exhausted today after two busy days. Sunday I was up at 4am to go to london and then a whole day of walking. Monday I met my step sister and had a wander round town and then this morning I had to be at the hospital at 8am for blood tests which was a 2 mile walk. Everywhere aches now. Even having a bath didn't help sad I seem to have developed hip pain that is only bad when I lie down. I was in bed crying my eyes out last night because I was so tired but lying down hurt so much. Poor DP didn't know how to help me and just faffed around trying to make me smile.

I definitely feel pregnant now. Which I guess is due to the fact I am 30 weeks on Thursday so not long to go now! I just want the aches and pains to go away. Paracetamol does bugger all!

PinkWitch803 Tue 08-Oct-13 14:20:50

I heard (another wives tale perhaps) that bad indigestion is worse when the baby is hairy! Don't know how much truth there is in that!

PinkWitch803 Tue 08-Oct-13 14:22:12

I mean hairy in the right places smile i am not suggesting anything strange!

froubylou Tue 08-Oct-13 14:23:41

Afternoon all

This thread moves really fast! Spent 20 mins just catching up from when I last posted which was only yesterday or the day before I think?

Anyhows, I don't know about anyone else but I am fucking knackered. All the time. Everything is a real mission to get done, and instead of being busy all day like I used to be, I'm fooked after about 12/1pm. How you girls who are working or running around after toddlers cope I really have no idea. All I have done today is the school run (1 mile walk), had a mooch around town centre and tesco's, put some shopping away and done a bit of tidying, made lamb tangine in slow cooker (never had it before but it smells delish!), done some paperwork and I am seriously knackered. My whole body aches and I feel really tired and heavy. The thought of walking back to school is exhausting and I've had a little (20 mins) snooze on the sofa and am still yawning!

Iron levels were 11.6 at 28 week blood tests and I'm assuming they are still ok (was only 2 weeks ago) so can only think that it's just generally being pregnant that is knackering! I never felt like this 9 years ago when pg with DD. And I smoked and worked my arse off and didn't eat properly whilst PG with her. This time I'm a lot more sensible, gave up the fags and have a much healthier diet and lifestyle and I'm literally dead on my feet lol.

I don't like complaining (it took us 3 years to get PG so feel bad for moaning) but I really can't wait to not be pg again and get back to normal. Which I think is a good attitude to have as last time I loved being Pg and wanted to be pg again as much as I wanted a baby if you know what I mean lol. Now I am just looking forwards to having baby here and won't miss being pg and certainly won't be planning another one. To fit it in (I'm 36 this month!) I'd have to have one PDQ, no 9 yr gap this time and I just don't think I could do it with a toddler to chase after!

My nesting instinct has kicked in too and I'm slowly getting things done. Front room was blitzed yesterday, all skirts and windows and behind sofa's ect was done. Going to do bathroom and hall and stairs tomorrow, then our room on thursday. DD's room can be done when she is off at half term. It wasn't so many weeks ago I spent 2 days in there sorting out and its a tip already! So she can bloody well help.

Then I'm buying a carpet cleaner at the weekend (how sad is it to be excited by that lol) and can do all the carpets next week, pick cot and rest of stuff up from dsis and start getting stuff properly organised. Buying pram end of october, so can spend november getting little bits sorted and christmas sorted out.

Gulp. Its all happening too fast now!!!

Dsis is also home from hospital and recovering slowly. Baby doing OK and dsis is as sore as can be expected but says other than that she feels better than what she has in a long time. Thing is she has told m/w twice about these pains she's been getting, been to the GP and went to the walk in centre on friday before she went to A & E! Doesn't fill you with much confidence does it? Triage nurse at walk in centre wouldn't let her see dr, told her to rest on bed and take 2 parecetamol for pain. Not good.

But the main thing is she is fine now I suppose.

Alyssa1978 Tue 08-Oct-13 14:44:42

Oh frouby I'm with you on that one, got a nearly 3 yr old and a just gone one year old so not much of a gap, but I'm 36 in the new year and this pg has knackered me, I'm so ready to be done.

I also quit smoking before this one and I'm more tired....go figure?

pink ds1 didn't have much hair and I had very little heartburn but I was plagued with it wigh ds2 and he had tons of black hair so maybe some truth to that one, we will see when this ones born as I'm ill with it again this time.

LadyMedea Tue 08-Oct-13 14:44:44

itsliz if the gaviscon is not cutting it anymore you can move on to ranitidine - sold as 'indigestion relief' in tesco etc. you can get it on prescription but it's £1 or £2 for 12 from the supermarkets and you only need one or two a day so I haven't bothered.

It actually reduces acid production rather than masking it - I take one at lunchtime when the acid starts and it works all day. I still take gaviscon occasionally at night but it has made a huge difference. It's considered safe in pregnancy - a rare FDA category B drug - you are meant to take it under a doctors supervision but I forgot to ask mine last week and everything I can find says it's absolutely fine.

MildredH Tue 08-Oct-13 14:53:28

I'm definitely believing the old wives tale about heartburn and your baby having hair. I just love babies with a shock of hair. I was born with a full head of v dark hair all sticking up despite being blonde mousy now.

Featherbag Tue 08-Oct-13 15:06:28

I've moved onto ranitidine now too and it's really helping! Don't know how much truth there is in the hair thing, but have had horrific heartburn both times, DS had loads of hair even prem at 32 weeks, and this baby has so much hair already you could clearly see it on the scan I had last Monday!

I've had to do what I desperately wanted not to do, and come home from work because of the pelvic pain. I was in so much pain I couldn't concentrate, and the people I look after deserve better. I managed 7.5 hours of the shift but I still feel wretched about not managing to stick it out - being in yesterday and it being really busy didn't help, but I've got a few days off now so hopefully I'll be back for my next shift. We're so short staffed and I hate letting people down. Only 7 shifts to go!

MrsShrubs Tue 08-Oct-13 15:35:28

featherbag don't feel bad at all, I just sit at a desk all day and do normal working hours and I feel pooped most of the time let alone running around and looking after other people so I don't know how you do it! Sometimes you've just got to put yourself first and take care of yourself, no cause to feel guilty at all smile

whisper bless you hope you start to feel better again soon, you really seem to be going through the mill at the moment.

EmB1715 Tue 08-Oct-13 16:13:25

thought it was worth mentioning - supermarket ranitidine is half the strength (75mg) of prescription (150mg). Dr has said I can take up to 300mg a day so I really think it's worth getting it on prescription for free if needed! Even then I'm still gulping gaviscon most days!

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meandbumpy Tue 08-Oct-13 17:31:01

Hi all, I'm booked in to have the whooping cough jab tomorrow morning and they also want to give me the flu jab at the same time. Just wondering if anyone else has had them both on the same day and how it turned out? Bit concerned that it's going to knock me for six or whether it will affect the baby.

EmB1715 Tue 08-Oct-13 17:39:37

Yep I did! It was ok. Felt a bit odd for a few days and the whooping cough one really hurt my arm so make sure it's on the side you sleep on least!

Featherbag Tue 08-Oct-13 18:31:59

I had them both together, no side effects at all except a bruised arm on the whooping cough side!

froubylou Tue 08-Oct-13 18:37:02

Omg. Just scoffed the lamb tangine I made in the slow cooker and it was to die for.

Find slow cooker wonders on fb, go into files and do the lamb tangine. Tis delish!

meandbumpy Tue 08-Oct-13 18:44:07

Cheers EmB and Feather good to know!

Stom91 Tue 08-Oct-13 18:50:57

I had the both together.. Had sore arms for a couple. Days but felt fine!

Spent the night in hospital last night after a night on thehospital bed in a ward of old biddies that can snore for England. I am glad to be home!

Dp get back from Budapest today can't tell you how much I need a hug from him!

Alyssa1978 Tue 08-Oct-13 18:56:00

You ok stom ?

I never had the flu jab but I had the whooping cough and my arm was very sore and bruised for a few days.

Omg!!! My bump has gone even lower, it's a hell of a lot smaller than this morning and slopes all the way down until it hits my belly button. I had a lot of cramp earlier on, I wonder if that's why? confused

MildredH Tue 08-Oct-13 19:05:45

Gosh feather- DO NOT feel guilty. You do a flipin hard, physically demanding job.

Is it worth talking to them in advance about your remaining shifts? Are they 7 longs? I spoke to my consultant last week and she's agreed for me to do half days until I finish next week.. It's so frustrating as I'm feeling pretty well but walking around the ward is so painful.

Stom91 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:29:59

Yeah I'm ok now. Was on a heart monitor all night x

WhisperMen Tue 08-Oct-13 19:30:10

when are we meant to have the whooping cough jab?

meandbumpy Tue 08-Oct-13 19:30:18

Thanks stom and Alyssa

Hope you're ok stom thanks

Alyssa1978 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:41:07

Heart monitor?? Hope you feeling ok stom

whisper its between 28 and 38 weeks pregnant Hun.

Stom91 Tue 08-Oct-13 19:45:16

Yeah i had palpitations quite bad and couldn't breathe and a cough and a temperature and BP was raised... They kept me on a monitor all night to see if they could catch the palpitations but it didn't happen again! - typical. They're not sure if it's pregnancy related so just got to keep an eye on it and rest up...

Baby is fine.. Got to see her smile

itsliz Tue 08-Oct-13 19:51:34

Lady Thanks for the tip, I'll definitely give that a go! Annoyingly, I popped to Morrisons before seeing your post and ended up getting Gaviscon tablets (just to see if tablets were any more effective than the liquid!) but I'll make sure I pick up some ranitidine next time instead.

And kerry I haven't been told I need a growth scan as the midwife said that she's perfectly happy with how things look at the moment (I'm 28 weeks and measuring 30cm, so not toooo bad!)
Hope all goes well at your scan though smile

So, the whooping cough jab, flu jab, GDD test etc... I assume we only have to have them if we need them? Or are they compulsory?
Just wondering as none of the GPs or MWs I've seen have mentioned them to me!

WhisperMen Tue 08-Oct-13 19:54:12

flu/whooping cough are our own choice if we have them or not and GDD is if you have any risk factors, if you were needed to have one then you would have already been told so don't worry itsliz (by the way, the grammar nazi in me always wants to correct your username and it makes me feel weird to type it wrong haha)

Featherbag Tue 08-Oct-13 20:23:16

Oh no Stom, that must've been a rotten night for you! Hope you're feeling better x

Mildred they are 7 longs, but switching to shorter shifts means working 5 lates a week and I'm not sure I wouldn't just die on the spot at the thought of going from 7 left to 1 long and 10 lates! I need the rest days in between more than I don't need the long hours IYKWIM. If I have to go off earlier it's not the end of the world but I'd really like to get to 35 weeks before starting leave. Off duty's done so no chance of taking more holiday now, only option would be sick and I'll only do that if I literally can't work at all.

Featherbag Tue 08-Oct-13 20:24:10

Is your consultant covering half your shifts with A/L, or are you just having to do more of them?

kchapper5 Tue 08-Oct-13 21:05:16

Evening guys I'm currently stuffing my face till 10pm as I have my gtt tomorrow sad not got the first blood test till 10am and have no idea how I'm going to survive I've normally eaten at least twice by then sad any tips?
I know what you mean feather I'd rather do 7 long shifts than 11 shorter ones

MildredH Tue 08-Oct-13 21:12:38

No, I'm literally just doing what I can manage. I am limping like anything. They ( surprisingly) were good about it. GP was keen to sign me off completely and since I'm due to finish next week I essentially said I'd rather do the half days than get signed off completely.

Luckily I've finished my on calls now and am just on the ward which is well covered this week.

If your GP did you a fit note to say you can only do 6/8 hour days your work couldn't make you do more shifts..

I do know the feeling of not wanting to leave your team short though. I'm just very lucky there are enough other doctors on the ward this week.

Think about getting a fit note if you're struggling. That's what they're there for- a compromise between being off completely and doing what you can..

Xenadog Wed 09-Oct-13 07:26:49

Morning all. Stom hope you are ok and how lovely to see baby again.

Feeling like pants after a rubbish night's sleep, aching back and think I might have spd starting too as I have pain in my pelvic region at the front. Off to see nurse for my blood pressure check first thing (have to go every fortnight due to being old!) and will be asking her about having my wc and flu vaccines. DP has shouted at me today too - yep I was grumpy but I was in pain and knackered.

I'm getting ready for pregnancy to be over now- but still got 9 and a half weeks to go. Anyone else fed up with being pregnant? I know it's a natural process but wish it was a bit more pleasant! Anyway happy hump day guys - have a good one!

Alyssa1978 Wed 09-Oct-13 07:47:22

xena I'm very ready for it to be over, pregnancy is very long I think.
I never mind up until about 30ish weeks but I think that's when the back aches and heartburn and everything else gets worse.

I'm not sleeping much at all and then getting up with the kids at 6am is really tiring me out now.
I feel really bad when complaining as this baby is very much wanted but the rest of life (cooking, cleaning, work etc) doesn't stop and I can't even bend down anymore lol grin

Had a weird dream last night, I was constantly sitting on the toilet as tmi alert my body was constantly having a number 2 cleaning itself out ready for labour confused then I kept waking up moaning to dp about where have these new baby things come from

Alyssa1978 Wed 09-Oct-13 07:51:03

Oops pressed post..... And there are no new recent baby things.

But only 7 weeks to go on Monday.

Have a good day everyone

mumoftwoboysS Wed 09-Oct-13 07:55:40

Two hairy babies here too and heartburn with both! Heartburn this time too but I think I'm just suceptible to it (get it occasionally when not preggers too)

stomsorry to hear you weren't well-hope it doesn't happen again!

frouby (was it frouby? Can't check on my phone!) thanks for tip re tagine. I love my slow cooker and always looking for new recipes- and love tagines!

I've got really bad pelvic pain, stater yesterday but it's at the back-kind of lower back/pelvis where all those pelvic bones are. I've had it before it's almost like a bone has gone out of place and I need it clicked back. It causes me to limp the pain is so bad. sad not sure doc can help- need to see osteopath again I think. DH is away on business till Sunday too so I have to do everything including lifting ds2 into and out of his cot which I really shouldn't be doing- kills my back.

I really feel for those of you working at the moment-it must be really tough. Trying to keep a house tidy and clean and look after 2 kids is knackering but at least if I really am shattered I can just stop! (Hence house is not as clean or tidy as I would like!)

froubylou Wed 09-Oct-13 09:31:12

Mumof2, let me know if you can't find the recipe and I'll try and get it on here for you. Really is lovely! First time I've done a tangine so can't tell you how it compares to a normal one but it was delish. In fact there is enough for some more for lunch today lol.

How much is too much excercise wise? I'm 30 weeks tomorrow and really struggling with the school run on foot. Its half a mile there and half a mile back, done twice a day. I'm getting breathless half way through the walk unless I go really slowly and when I get home I have to rest for at least 20 mins.

I'm really pissed off as I like doing the school run. I take the dog so she gets out at set times each day and if I didn't do the school run with her I'd still have to take her out twice a day.

I'm also pissed off as when I was pg with DD 9 years ago I did a really physically demanding job right until the end where I walked miles each day. And always said that if i got pg again I'd carry on as normal.

I do have asthma and have stopped smoking early on which you think would make things better but am wheezing and rattling like an old man at min lol, which I didn't do before and I am using a lot more blue inhaler and started using the brown one again twice a day.

Sigh, just fed up with being physically fooked all the time but brain doing overtime all night. Got a list a mile long of things I want to get done today but all I can think about is sneaking back to bed for an hour. And I have the car sat outside so it's really tempting to use that one way on the school run. But then I worry if I can't manage 2 1 mile walks 5 days a week at 30 weeks how am I going to cope with labour and recovery at 40 weeks?

Chilli81 Wed 09-Oct-13 09:49:06

mum I was just thinking how much harder it's going to be physically when I do go off on maternity leave. At least at work I get to sit down at my desk. Once I'm off I can't justify sending DS1 (a very energetic 2.5 year old) to his child minder so am going be chasing after him myself! Aaargh!
Feel really bad for anyone who works on their feet all day. You have my respect!
Hope you all have good days.

WhisperMen Wed 09-Oct-13 09:51:22

frouby I am exactly the same. It is about a mile walk to town from our flat and I am really starting to find it a struggle. It usually takes me 10-15 minutes to walk there but yesterday it took nearly 45 minutes and I was gasping like anything.
I think it's because our bodies have so much going on and we are carrying extra weight. Even if you are normal weight for your weeks, the baby is an extra 2lbs alone then you add on the waters, placenta, giant boobs. It's no wonder we get tired easier!

Alyssa1978 Wed 09-Oct-13 09:55:06

You'll be fine frouby my breathlessness went away after babies were out, so did my painful bit under my right boob, babies came out and I was like ooh the pain under my boob has gone lol

Dp always said he couldn't believe the difference in me as soon as baby was out, although the tiredness still stays thanks to night feeds lol.

But I was quite lucky that both mine slept all though from 10 weeks and ds2 was the only baby on the labour ward that slept through the night after he was born, it was the lady and the baby in the next bed that kept me up.....typical while mine slept grin

Remember you were younger too Hun 9 years ago, I don't care what anyone says, I think this gets harder the older you are.

I have a very physical heavy lifting job and I walk constantly for 9 hours a day 5 days a week and I find it very difficult too, were carrying lots more weight with us than usual, I'm always telling dp to slow down, he may as well run ahead of me sad

Hop you feeling better soon flowers

NomDeClavier Wed 09-Oct-13 10:06:20

When you say breathless what do you mean? Could you hold a conversation or are you completely out of puff and gasping for air?

I'm only 29 weeks but I don't really feel like I've had to slow down much over the course of pregnancy yet. I dropped a lot of stuff due to first trimester tiredness and obviously I've had to adapt some things I do to make way for bump, but I fully expect it to kick in over the next 2 weeks as my lungs get progressively squished. I do remember getting breathless more easily when walking with DS and having to consciously slow rather than do less.

I appear to be measuring very small sad 25cm at 29weeks. Got a scan on the 24th anyway but MW didn't seem at all concerned. I have no idea where the weight I've put on is going if it's not on baby!!!

itsliz Wed 09-Oct-13 10:45:45

Whisper, I know exactly what you mean! My username on every other site up until now has been 'thatliz' but when I started signing up to pregnancy/ parenting websites I was only about 8 weeks pg and didn't want to be outed grin

Big hugs to everyone that's struggling with aches and pains at the moment thanks I think we've all reached a point where we need to accept that we should be taking it easy from now on!

At the moment I seem to be exhausted after doing the simplest of tasks like loading and unloading the washing machine, but feel absolutely fine after a 15 minute stroll into town...
I suppose that just goes to show the difference between going at your own pace and doing things quickly in short bursts, though!

DP and I are off to an 'expectant parent event' at Mothercare this evening. Apparently there's going to be product demonstrations, nursing bra fittings, baby yoga and massage experts on hand, safety advice, all that sort of thing... Ooh and a goodie bag and light refreshments! grin
Should be a nice, informative evening although I've got a feeling it might make me want to spend lots of money!

froubylou Wed 09-Oct-13 11:18:37

Nom I can hold a conversation but feel very panty if you know what I mean? If I walked at my usual pace I'd be buggered but waddling along and having a yes/no conversation is OK. Couldn't do a 5 min speech though. In fact have just been on phone to friend and had to get off after 10 mins as I was loading washing machine up at same time and it was too much effort!

Have my asthma review next week so going to have a chat with nurse and if it's not asthma and I know my iron levels OK can only assume its baby squishing my lungs. Little bugger lol. Plus as Whisper has said all the extra weight (stone and a half last time I got on scales 3 weeks ago) in a funny place (on tummy and boobs) is a bit much to carry around!

Try not to worry about your measurements too much. All M/Ws measure in different places I think and even the scans are open to interpretation. DD was supposed to be very, very small too. Around the 5lb mark I think but was actually 5lb 12oz with long, skinny legs!

I've got another scan too, but not whilst 24th of Oct. Can't wait to see him again, taking DD (aged 9) for a nosey so I hope he does stuff on camera for her! On the last one I could see him opening and closing his mouth and swallowing, and sucking his fingers so I hope he puts on a show for his big sister!

Don't know whether to do a pile of ironing or do the skirting boards on the stairs lol. Might do the ironing and get that out of the way and cheat tomorrow and use car for school run in morning then have loads of energy to do a big clean! In fact have to use car tomorrow in morn as she has to take her baritone (huge big brass trombone thing) back and it weighs a bloody ton lol.

PinkWitch803 Wed 09-Oct-13 12:55:25

I am feeling "strange". Not in a medical kind of way, but more an emotional way. I started back at work this week after two weeks off following a relativley big bleed at 26 weeks. My two weeks off were rounded up with a horrid cold which quickly turned into a chest infection.

I was really nervous about going back to work because amongst other reasons, the time off made me realise how fragile things can be.

I am really fortunate that I have a really good sick leave benefit and it will cover me until my maternity leave starts. I also have 11 days annual leave which will carry over to next financial year and which I plan to tag on to the end of my maternity leave. That will make up for my mat leave starting two weeks earlier than planned.

I had a consultant appointment yesterday and she has written in my notes to consider taking sick leave so I can get the GP to sign me off.

I have a very supportive line manager who seems to support this decision. we just need to make it official.

I went into the office today and have discretely cleared out my desk. I don't have a huge amount of stuff anyway and to anyone passing by I was just have a "nesting" tidy up.

So for once, all the cards are in my favour.

I work 45 miles away from my house and I am out of the house for at least 12 hours a day to include travel and a full on job, albeit a desk job. I do get two days a week for working from home, but topping it off with not sleeping, I am absolutely shattered by the time I get home, and when I work from home I end up doing really long days to keep up with my workload.

The consultant made it very clear that if I have another bleed, or feel any pain, or experience anything, I should go to the assesment unit as it might mean the baby has stopped growing or that I have gone into early labour. The chances are there is nothing wrong, and if I have no more bleeds and my placenta moves, I might still be able to have a home birth - but that means not knackering myself out with work. So it is a no brainer that I get signed off for work.

But I feel a little bit like I am cheating, but then every mile I drive away from my home (which is next to the hospital) the more panicky I get that I will be "caught out". I am also even more paranoid about all the twiches, aches etc. My baby goes quiet for a while every few days and it chose last night to be really quiet, so I was panicking about that. All fine today though smile

I don't know what I expect by sharing this with you. As of next tuesday, I am likely to be on sick leave, but I feel really edgy and needed to get things off my chest! And the more I think about it, the more I keep making it sound like a room full of negatives, which can't be further from the truth.

I know I am doing the right thing, but it still feels naughty. I am not the first pregnant woman to walk this earth, so why should I get the right to have two and a halve months at home before my official due date?

WhisperMen Wed 09-Oct-13 13:33:25

Oh pink stop beating yourself up. You are correct you are not the first pregnant lady, but everyone is different. You are doing this for your baby. You need rest and relaxation not work related stress. The doctors wouldn't have suggested it if it wasn't a good idea. I think we are so programmed to think working is the best thing to be doing that we forget that sometimes our bodies just need to slow down. Growing a person is incredibly hard work and it takes its toll. There will be some women who work up till their due date happily and there will be others who need to stop. It isn't worth getting worked up over. Just think of all the lie ins you can have now! Be nice to yourself and do all the things you wanted to do before baby comes. <big squishy hugs>

meandbumpy Wed 09-Oct-13 15:17:00

Don't feel bad Pink it sounds like you'd be doing the best thing for you and your baby to take the time off. You sound like you work really hard and i'm sure you'll continue to for years to come, so is it really that bad that you take a teeny bit of extra time off in between?

Xena I'm soo fed up with being pregnant lol! The constant aches and pains, having to heave myself around, the heartburn and the breathlessness. I was doing a 3 mile walk everyday up until 29 weeks but now I'm 31 i just can't manage it all the time. Went out yesterday and where as it was taking me 30 mins it took me twice that and i fell asleep for an hour as soon as I got in. Also got overtaken by a couple who looked like they were in their 80's! grin I've recently started getting super emotional over things too. I cry at almost anything sad but also get over whelmed by feeling happy too. I'm a bit like a crazy drunk telling DP how much i love him and how happy i am, feel like a right twonk, haha.

Can I get something off my chest too? My anxiety levels are high at the moment because we've still got so much to sort out for when baby arrives. We decided earlier this year to stop using protection and see if we got pregnant, thinking that in the mean time there'd be plenty of time to get prepared. But it happened that we got preggo after having sex 3 times. I feel incredibly lucky that it was easy for us as I know that's often not the case but we've been playing catch up ever since and it's caused a lot of stress. DP has gone from freelance to a permanent job so we're more secure financially. He's now living away during the week with his mum and I'm at home living in a tiny village with no car and no friends or family around. We've put the house on the market and are trying to re-locate to DP's new job and closer to family. It's a bit of a mess but it's down to our own naivety, I feel so stupid that we didn't hold off and get things sorted before hand. I can't regret what we've done because we're going to have a baby because of it and both couldn't be happier. But I do feel like an idiot that we started trying without considering that it might happen straight away. Really sorry for the moan and feeling sorry for myself blush

PinkWitch803 Wed 09-Oct-13 15:24:14

Thank you Whisper smile

Pistachiotruffle Wed 09-Oct-13 15:25:21

Pink, listen to Whisper, she is wise! I'm sure I've said it on mumsnet before, but I'm convinced the only reason so many women work so close to their due date is because its a toss up between that or spending less time with their baby afterwards because of the way maternity leave works in this country. It certainly is for me. In years gone by women stopped work at 6 months even with the most straightforward pregnancy, and no one batted an eyelid, so please don't worry about it flowers

Hope you're feeling better Stom!

itsliz, did you post about the expectant parent event a few days ago? If it was you, thank you! DH and I are off to one tonight too. I'm excited, he looks less thrilled about it though hmm

WhisperMen Wed 09-Oct-13 15:39:50

I am very wise grin No need to thank me pink just telling the truth smile

PinkWitch803 Wed 09-Oct-13 16:27:34

Thank you to all for your lovely support. I swear mumsnet has been a lifesaver for me as a first timer.

You make some good points which I will take on board smile

meandbumpy we were the same as you. We weren't actively trying, but it was more we would like a family and I am hating what the pill is doing to me, so I am going to come off the pill and we both know what that might mean. I came off the pill in January and was pregnant by the beginning of April.

We are super excited, but had already started demolishing the house for DIY and the house is no where near ready yet. But as other mumsnetters have said to me, it all seems worse than it is and it will be alright on the night.

I am sure your house will sell in good time, so perhaps you could start packing and sorting your stuff. I bet there is loads you can put on freecycle or chuck away. That might take the pressure off when it comes to moving, and it might even help sell the house.

Is it an option to rent out your house? then you could move before the baby comes, or not long after.

Take each thing one step at a time and remember all the positives.

BohemianRaspberry Wed 09-Oct-13 17:02:17

Pink - we are also knocking through a wall and it seems that most of my yoga class are moving, refurbing or overhauling! I think it's a pregnancy thing!

Trying to remember the positives of being pregnant but have searing pain on the left side mid back - is it worth harassing the midwives for? I was in tears with the pain earlier when sat at my desk but lying down now, it's mostly okay.

qumquat Wed 09-Oct-13 17:27:55

Hello ladies,

I've been lurking for a while on this thread and thought it only polite I should introduce myself! I'm due dc1 on Boxing Day. I was on the January thread initially (initially due date 1st Jan), but couldn't keep up, the pace here suits me better! Things are going well mainly, after horrific morning sickness early on I've been quite lucky since. Today though I had a complete meltdown, I normally work 10+ hour days as a teacher and it's just starting to kill me, I cried in between every lesson today! So have made an early escape today hope I can rest enough to cope with tomorrow. I am putting on a play in mid November, hopefully once that's over I can slow down a bit, unless ofsted turn up ...!

I doubt I'll post much as I'm not much of a 'chatter', but I love reading this thread and seeing that I'm not alone! X

NomDeClavier Wed 09-Oct-13 17:34:14

pink it's expected in France that you go off around 6 weeks before, longer if you have a big commute or a manual job. Don't worry about not being at work, just take the time to rest and relax and cook that baby!

mean the adjustment to parenthood is hard even when you've TTCed for more than a month! DS was a surprise, okay a stupid risk, so I understand that panic about thinking you would have more time but it will all work out in the end. They say the 3 most stressful life events are marriage, moving and having a baby and you're trying to do 2/3 at the same time so I reckon a little anxiety is normal

itsliz Wed 09-Oct-13 17:46:10

Pistachio Yes, it was! Hope you enjoy it smile Not really sure what to expect but I'm excited... Not sure if the same can be said for my OH either though! Which store are you going to, if you don't mind me asking?

Pink As everyone else has said, you really shouldn't feel bad. At the end of the day you have to do what's best for you and baby and whether you like it or not, any aches and pains and problems are your body's way of telling you to slow down!
I know it feels early to be taking time off, but it's easy to forget that we're all into the third trimester now and very much on the home stretch!
You're in a great position being able to leave work now and be on such good terms with your managers, so just try your best to enjoy it and make the most of your time off smile

I know it's easier said than done though - My contract finished at the end of August which means that I've been unemployed (or on 'extended maternity leave', depending on how you look at it wink) for about 6 weeks now. Although I've been desperately searching for work, I'm very lucky in that DP has encouraged me to stay at home and let him pay for everything instead.
It's great but it doesn't stop me from feeling a bit worthless and guilty that I'm not contributing as much as I could be financially... I'm slowly starting to realise that it's more important that I relax, de-stress and prepare for our baby than slave away at a job I hate, though!

On a completely different note, my nesting is getting way out of control... I spent over an hour reading reviews of steam cleaners online earlier and I've convinced myself that we NEED one so that I can clean the flat from top to bottom before baby arrives.
DP is convinced that I've gone mad hmm

Stom91 Wed 09-Oct-13 17:50:16

Welcome qumquat smile

I'm feeling alot better today - baby's hasn't stopped wriggling all day - last night she was so happy i think because dp had returned home after 2 nights away! Hasn't stopped wiggling since!

Got a obstetrician appointment tomorrow! I don't have a clue what he will talk about or what to expect has anyone been to. One before? I take it we will discuss how. My condition affects pregnancy and birth etc?

thecherryontop Wed 09-Oct-13 17:57:26

Hi everyone, I really understand those of you who are feeling bad about considering/leaving work early -I have had to but in all honesty it is the best thing -I think not only for yourselves & babies but also work -I'm a teacher and I feel that at least now the students will get a long term replacement rather than just a different cover each lesson. Those of you who are still going are to be greatly admired!

I had a midwife app today and asked her about raspberry leaf -I had stocked up hoping to begin in the next day or so at 32 weeks but she said not to -instead wait until 36 as it can trigger early labour. -everywhere I've need reading online seems to suggest 32 -have any of you had experience of it?

I feel like I'm at the stage where I will try anything due to the fear of the unknown ahead, I am trying a hypnobirthing cd and also bananas for carpal tunnel!

Have any of you experienced braxton hicks at all? I have felt vague period type pains on and off -more so today but the midwife assured me its normal? I will still be dr googling later! smile

Stom91 Wed 09-Oct-13 18:07:26

Dont Google! It'll scare you!! Period type pain could be just everything stretching as baby is getting bigger.. I had Bh all night while I was in the hospital... My tummy would just go really hard but ddidn't hurt at all

WhisperMen Wed 09-Oct-13 18:44:05

Dr Google is the worst decision! Saying that, I still do it and convince myself that I am dying of several ailments. grin

Tell you what, I am exhausted today. No idea why as I have had a 3 hour nap and not done anything other than shuffle around the flat. Was meant to be going to the cinema tonight too. Wednesday is the only night me and DP go out because we get the orange Wednesday code and he has an unlimited card so it's totally free. I cannot make the walk there though so I am upset and frustrated but have told him he can go anyway. No point him missing out on his night out just because I'm tired.

thecherryontop Wed 09-Oct-13 18:57:47

Hahaha whisper -I do exactly the same but I just can't stop myself! grin

It def doesn't feel like stomach hardening -just a dull periody pain.

Featherbag Wed 09-Oct-13 19:01:12

Another one struggling with stopping-work-early-guilt here! Was due to go off at 35+3, but after the midwife gently suggesting earlier that now might be a good time to give up, I'm seriously considering getting signed off after my shift at the weekend, if I even manage to do that. I was so determined to make it to the finish line, but in my last pregnancy I'd been off for 5 weeks at this point (and gave birth tomorrow! shock ) so maybe I'm expecting too much of myself, my pelvis is so much more painful this time around and I've got DS to run around after!

BohemianRaspberry Wed 09-Oct-13 19:28:29

Hi qumquat, I'm a teacher too and I feel the stress with you - I spent twenty minutes crying in the copier room today and have cried all the way home every day this week so far. Hopefully you just have a case of bad-day-itis.

Cherry I'm trying my best to stick it out for as long as I can. I've managed to steer my classes into assessments for the next few weeks and so that should help me rest a little before I go properly. Work has also been nicer over the last week and has been letting me off meetings and cover.

itsliz I wanted to go to our Mothercare event too but they are fully booked shock with a waiting list ... must serve really good biscuits!

Well I have another kidney infection and another round of antibiotics to go through. Hopefully these ones will kill it permanently this time. Currently slumped on the sofa feeling very pained and sorry for myself.

ccsays Wed 09-Oct-13 19:41:26

I was struggling with leaving work early guilt, but now I just feel like this to be quite honest. Roll on mat leave (last shift on Friday)! Also, as my ex midwive neighbour pointed out, it used to be pretty normal to go off at 30/31 weeks.

I've booked DP and I on a Red Cross Baby and Child first aid course after watching a particularly traumatic episode of One Born Every Minute were the baby contracted meningitis and realising I would have no clued whatsoever about what to do in a baby related health emergency confused

BohemianRaspberry Wed 09-Oct-13 20:56:52

This .gif made me laugh so hard ccsays - if I could use it at work I would

Gannetgob Wed 09-Oct-13 21:02:05

Glad it went ok EmB, I'm looking forward to going tomorrow!

Pink, you are dong the best for your baby. Work isn't on the same scale of importance as your baby's health, so try to relax and stop worrying quite so much!

Stom, I asked the midwife today about the shaking. She said she had only had a couple of women say that before, and as long as it only lasts 2 or 3 seconds its fine, but if it becomes more frequent to phone them and let them know! I hope you are feeling better!

Just a heads up guys, if you are thinking of going to NHS antenatal classes or breastfeeding classes you need to phone and book them asap if you haven't already. I phoned today and they only had 3 dates left for the classes and could only offer me the 19th December for breast feeding which is no good when I'm due on the 13th!

I know I'm worrying about work far too much too. We are due a visit from Ofsted in the next few weeks and I feel so sure they will come before I leave in just under 3 weeks. I feel so anxious and stressed about it. I'm getting upset about it and I'm not sure why. I have gone through Ofsted a few times before, so shouldn't be getting this worked up about it. I just can't help it. I can't even relax too much because SLT are constantly doing learning walks in order to prepare and I feel awful if I am sitting down when they come in to my lessons and if my lessons aren't top notch.

My back is also so painful. My midwife said it's because the baby is tilting back and is really far towards the back, she said she could barely feel her to find out where she is. I have been lucky that I teach 5 or 6 lessons less than I should be but I just don't feel like I'm coping very well. Another pregnant woman left last week at 37 weeks, so I feel really pathetic.


meandbumpy Wed 09-Oct-13 21:28:11

Thanks for the advice and kind words, helping me to keep it real. Pregnancy brings such a mixed bag of emotions! I've already done a bit of packing and DP is hopefully bringing some more boxes back with him at the weekend so will give me something positive to focus on. We don't have the option to rent the house out as we'd need to spend money on improvements/fixing things and changing the mortgage which we don't have as we need it for moving and buying baby things. We really are very ill prepared!

I really admire all you ladies that are working so hard and for such long hours. Part of the reason we thought about starting a family was because i was made redundant and was finding it hard to get another job, so thankfully I've just been doing the odd bit of freelancing from home and been able manage things. I think I would've bailed much earlier if I'd had a full time job and been commuting. You're all totally fabulous for hanging in there IMO and should jolly well enjoy the time you have off without even a snippet of guilt. You've earned it ladies! smile

By the way, I chickened out of having both jabs and just had the whooping cough for now. Did a load of housework and cleaned the carpet as when I got in and now I've a big painful lump on my arm and grogginess is kicking in. Early night for me I think

Stom91 Wed 09-Oct-13 21:31:25

Thanks gannet. Feeling much better just get odd periods of short breath.

I'm booked in for a breast feeding class on the 24th.

I felt guilty about being off work. Had to go off sick quite early.. On official Nat leave now though... But after that scare on yesterday - I was told to slow down even more - seriously if i do I think I'll stop! I can't go much slower lol..

Gannet don't feel silly... Every pregnancy is different and everyone cope in a different way.. You have to do What is best for you and baby.

Seeing the obstetrician tomorrow! Not sure what to expect. Anyone else seen one?? Thanks gannet. Feeling much better just get odd periods of short breath.

I'm booked in for a breast feeding class on the 24th.

I felt guilty about being off work. Had to go off sick quite early.. On official Nat leave now though... But after that scare on yesterday - I was told to slow down even more - seriously if i do I think I'll stop! I can't go much slower lol..

Gannet don't feel silly... Every pregnancy is different and everyone cope in a different way.. You have to do What is best for you and baby.

Seeing the obstetrician tomorrow! Not sure what to expect. Anyone else seen one?? Thanks gannet. Feeling much better just get odd periods of short breath.

I'm booked in for a breast feeding class on the 24th.

I felt guilty about being off work. Had to go off sick quite early.. On official Nat leave now though... But after that scare on yesterday - I was told to slow down even more - seriously if i do I think I'll stop! I can't go much slower lol..

Gannet don't feel silly... Every pregnancy is different and everyone cope in a different way.. You have to do What is best for you and baby.

Seeing the obstetrician tomorrow! Not sure what to expect. Anyone else seen one??

Stom91 Wed 09-Oct-13 21:37:53

Oops stupid phone sorry

mumoftwoboysS Wed 09-Oct-13 21:41:25

Sorry haven't had a chance to read all the posts but sitting here on the sofa (DH is away) and baby is going crazy in there! The kicks are so hard it hurts! Anyone else had this? My tum is rippling from the movement then I get the odd painful kick, and baby has hiccups. Maybe I shouldn't have had that cup of tea!

BohemianRaspberry Wed 09-Oct-13 21:42:13

gannet can't you be put on a 'vulnerable' list or something if ofsted turn up? I think I read somewhere you can do that. When ofsted rocking up at ours a year ago, one of my colleagues basically told the inspector that she was 34 weeks pregnant and any judgement he made had to take that into consideration or she would consider it victimisation! (wish I had the balls to do that!)

Hope obstetrician goes well stom

ccsays Wed 09-Oct-13 22:05:42

Bohemian it works for so many things grin

mum yup, kicks are getting occasionally quite painful and jabby and I've had a rippling stomach too.

PinkWitch803 Wed 09-Oct-13 23:37:05

Thanks again for the words of encouragement. I am sure I will feel fine when I actually finish my work. I already feel better knowing I don't have to go back into the office, so will be in the comfort of my own home. I am also comforted by knowing I am not the only one going through the leaving work early guilt thing.

I am getting the certificate from the doctors tomorrow and will mention that I have just joined the 'kicked in the groin and then stabbed with needles' club.

as for friendly baby kicks, mine are mostly in one place and not that hard yet to cause me pain. Perhaps things will change, but my anterior placenta is probably cushioning me from the full force.

abcdemma Thu 10-Oct-13 00:07:51

Mine's starting kicking right down in the hip/pelvis area, feels like under where your hip bone is. Them ones stun me for a second or two, but now he's just having a good wriggle and making my laptop move from side to side!!
17 days left of work for me... can't bloody wait!! Had to swap shifts today cause stupid arse manager had left me to rearrange the conference room which meant lifting chairs n tables. The slightly kinder assistant manager came and told me, and said she couldn't have me lifting tables so would I like to swap shifts and make the time up. I know I'll never get to make up the time as he's massively over-budget with wages as it is which is annoying...but hey ho. Gone off on a massive tangent there blush
My antenatal classes had loadsa room left, got the birthing one next week and going to book the BF one for November hopefully smile

froubylou Thu 10-Oct-13 03:27:12

Been awake since 2am and just had some crunchy nut cornflakes lol. Baby likes them!

Just a thought and I may have missed this but who was it that was leaking fluid and wetting their joggers? Was it clare? And did we get an update from her? Hope she is ok and I have just missed it.

EmB1715 Thu 10-Oct-13 07:47:37

Bit of a tangent, but we learnt something at NCT class last night that I thought I should share! If you want to avoid a tear, do not actively push your baby out at the crowning stage! Contractions will slowly do it for you, each one slowly stretching the perineum. Midwives have a tendancy to rush the birth of the baby when women are ten cm dilated, but there's really no need, the body will do it for you with little or no help from pushing.

Hope some people find this useful smile

Featherbag Thu 10-Oct-13 08:24:40

Well, this is it, the day I've been looking forward to and dreading! 32 weeks exactly, the day I went into labour with DS. So far so good, no odd feelings although after DH got a bit amorous this morning I did wonder if it had been a good idea (not that I objected!). I just know I'm going to be a wreck from here on in, overanalysing every twinge, but every day he stays in is a day more cooked than DS! Only 3 weeks and I can more or less relax, 35 weeks means little or no NICU time. I'll have less angst about the cs then too. Hope everyone's well and feeling rested today! I'm stuck in waiting for a furniture delivery, and wondering what to do with an 18kg toddler I can neither lift nor catch when I'm on my own :S

WhisperMen Thu 10-Oct-13 08:42:18

fingers crossed for you feather Hope your little one carries on cooking in there! I am 30 weeks today and have realised it is between 7 and 12 weeks till I see my baby. I am terrified!

Featherbag Thu 10-Oct-13 08:59:04

7 weeks maximum here, nursery is finally painted, furniture in, just have to get all the teeny tiny baby things down from the loft and sort through for wash/throw/charity shop so I know what I want need to buy and I'm done! Oh, and need DH to put shelves up in nursery, FIL is here overnight tonight so going to get them to do it tonight. I've asked my dad to drop his drill in before he disappears for the day so DH has no excuse for further procrastination! Oh, and I need curtains.

Featherbag Thu 10-Oct-13 09:34:20

Just rang the MW and booked onto the NHS breast feeding class a week on Saturday - I know I've done it before but I'm hoping that by continuing to prepare for a 'normal' experience it'll be more likely to all go smoothly! Last time there were NG tubes, breast pumps, separation from baby, tongue ties and interfering batshit crazy bf advisors to deal with, no great surprise I didn't manage to keep going past about 10 weeks!

Speaking of breast pumps, I think I've been done sad Won a Medela swing a couple of weeks ago on eBay for a stupidly low price as there were about 15 ending in the space of half an hour, I just bid on the one without a box or accessories. It hasn't arrived, so I contacted the seller who said it was posted 10 days ago. It's definitely not at the PO, and when I've contacted the seller she's refunded me immediately, saying she'll do the chasing with Royal Mail, even though in the listing she said she wouldn't take responsibility for lost in post items and would forward proof of posting to the buyer in that situation. I think she wasn't happy with the sale price and hasn't sent it. I'm so gutted it's unreal! Money's getting VERY tight and I really want one of those, going to have to rake the house for stuff to eBay to fund one I think sad

PinkWitch803 Thu 10-Oct-13 10:51:18

It is official, I am signed off work. I have a few bits to tie up and then the is me done! Although I still feel a little naughty (not much thanks to you lovely ladies and my lovely DP), I also feel such a huge sense of relief. All those things I was going to try to squeeze in are no longer daunting, but more exciting. I also feel much less scared of going into early labour.

Plus because of my paranoia of going into labour early, I have washed a load of baby clothes (not that they would fit yet) and bought things for the baby bag, so now I can start putting it together.

I am going to get a Medala swing. I was playing around with the idea of getting a manual pump, but my friends told me they knew quite a few people who developed carpel tunnel syndrome from using them!

meandbumpy Thu 10-Oct-13 11:10:42

Had a bit of good news, we've found a house to rent where DP's new job is so going to take the plunge and go and hope the house sells before we go bankrupt, lol. At least I know we'll all be together when I have the baby and i won't be on my own 200 miles away from all family and friends. His new boss (also pregnant) has been very generous and is allowing him to have his paternity leave even though he won't technically have accrued it by the time I'm due. Thinking of positives, thinking of positives!!

Gosh you are all very organised, with hospital bags ready and nurseries decorated etc. I'll be nearly 36 weeks by the time we move so we're going to have to do most things last minute and hope for the best. All that is the least of our worries though and I'm sure it will be lovely to do once we're together again.

Having some powerful kicks now too and think it's had hiccups a few times as these have been quite rhythmic. Does anyone else feel the baby having a huge stretch? Sometimes when I lie down in bed I feel a pressure building up and my bump starts to rise up and get really tight. It's like baby is on hands and feet and pushing it's back out. Feels weird but also lovely because I can make out it's head and little bum, although not sure which one is which!! grin

PinkWitch803 Thu 10-Oct-13 12:18:22

That is great news meandbumby. I am really pleased for you.

I have to say I am a little jealous of the big kicks as I just get tap tap tapping away and the occoasional shoving and stretching action. I think we had the hiccups the other day too.

but I am sure they will come soon enough. I am 29 weeks today.

LadyMedea Thu 10-Oct-13 12:35:31

feather and pink can I suggest a different breast pump. I know the medela swing is very popular but the ameda lactaline is now a similar price on amazon - www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B004E9SW7G - and is a dual pump with a proper closed system. This means you can sell it on afterwards with a clear conscience. The swing is not a closed system which means it is possible for breast milk to get into bits which cannot be sterilised, which isn't good generally if you ask me, and so is a 'single user item'. Many people do sell them 2nd hand but I was very put off by this article mythnomore.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/why-you-shouldnt-buy-sell-or-borrow.html?m=1

If you don't plan to sell it, then why have a single when you can have a double!

meandbumpy Thu 10-Oct-13 12:57:28

Pink I didn't have big kicks before 29 weeks either. It happened all of a sudden and now baby hardly stops wriggling and stretching. I'm sure it will happen for you soon and you'll be being kicked awake at 2am in no time!

So happy for you that you're finishing work and feeling better about things. Hope you're relaxing and enjoying yourself smile

mumoftwoboysS Thu 10-Oct-13 12:59:52

pinkmanual pumps are useless in my opinion so you're much better off getting an electric one. I had a manual one and hardly got any milk from it.

meanandbumpy that baby stretching feeling sounds like Braxton hicks. Like you say, feels like baby is pushing bump out, get a weird pressure sensation and bump goes hard.

God, I'm so far behind a lot of you that have your nurseries almost sorted! I'm still trawling through the shit stuff in what was our office so we can clear it then paint. Going to be a month before it's finished I reckon. Ds2 is napping so i'd better crack on with some more!

Had the most weird dream last night, baby was born-a girl. I was over the moon then she opened her mouth and it was full of big crooked teeth then she went to latch on to my boob...I think it was at that point it turned into a nightmare!! shock

Stom91 Thu 10-Oct-13 13:05:12

Urgh rather annoyed after a wasted trip for an hospital appointment!! He didn't even know why I was there!! I said that my midwife wanted me to see him because of my hypermobility and he was like how do you know you have it!? I've been seeing a consultant every year since I was 12!!

He was so rude!!! Mum had to take the morning off work to take me aswell... I'm so annoyed!!

I felt quite upset after.. :/ Argghh!!!

PinkWitch803 Thu 10-Oct-13 13:06:56

thanks Lady. I will check it out. Thhe breast pump was something I was buying new, but I feel more educated now.

Do they do a single pump option. I can't help thinking using a dual system would make me feel more like a cow! but to be honest, I can see the benefit of a double. Oh dear I am waffling!

qumquat Thu 10-Oct-13 13:18:48

Thanks for the welcome ladies!

I bought a second hand Ameda Lactaline dual electric pump on Ebay and it looks great. You can use it as a single if you prefer. I read up on the closed vs open system thing, and Ameda Lactaline definitely seemed the best bet. Even if buying new I'd rather not have bits of the pump not being fully cleanable.

Having a slightly better day today, lessons a bit rubbish but at least I'm not crying constantly! A day and a half till the weekend!

LadyMedea Thu 10-Oct-13 14:47:09

stom I hate it when a doctor you've been referred to asks you why you are there... And even worse when they automatically doubt an existing diagnosis rather than ask for a history.

My classic experience was seeing a new GP and saying I had ME. His response was 'what makes you think that?'... Err... About 4 GPs, a pediatrician, an NHS ME specialist and one of the world's leading medical experts on the subject.

itsliz Thu 10-Oct-13 15:14:56

Afternoon, all!

Pink So glad to hear you managed to sort out getting signed off of work in the end! It'll be so, so worth it in the long run smile

Stom That's awful! I genuinely don't know how some people are allowed to work in the medical profession with that sort of attitude, let alone lack of background knowledge. I know it's not easy, but try and put those pregnancy hormones to good use and kick up a fuss!

You'll have to let me know how the breastfeeding class goes Feather - I've just booked onto one for the November, and onto an active birth class for 30th November.
It all feels very last minute as I'll be about 35 weeks by then, but at the moment I'm just happy that I've got a place after as I was so sure they'd all be full!

Had fun at the Mothercare event last night. I assumed it'd be a case of sitting and listening to people giving presentations for 2 hours but it was actually a lot more relaxed, with lots of experts positioned around the store for people to approach and chat to as and when they wanted to.
I think DP secretly enjoyed too it as he ended up buying a changing mat, a new moses basket mattress, 2 dribble bibs, a shampoo rinse jug, a nightlight, a healthcare kit (hairbrush, comb, nail scissors etc) and a new nursing bra for me... Which, with the event discount, all came to £48!
Oh and Bohemian, I think you might have a point! There were mini doughnuts, chocolate brownies, mini muffins, little coconut cakes and squash, so I can see why so many people were after tickets wink

Managed to walk into town without feeling totally exhausted today (woohoo!) to sort out presents for DP. It's his 30th birthday on Saturday so I've been keeping myself busy planning surprises, buying decorations and ordering cake grin
Think I'm more excited about it all than he is though, haha!

itsliz Thu 10-Oct-13 15:16:11

Oops, that should've said 21st November, not 'the November'...

Featherbag Thu 10-Oct-13 15:29:54

Quick message from Sainsbury's - Lansinoh cream is on special at £6.65!

musiceverywhere Thu 10-Oct-13 15:31:40

HI!! OMG I can't believe its so long since I posted. Work has been mental so when I get home, I think my brain doesn't have enough capacity to write a coherent post! But I have the day off today so making the most of a bit of spare time. I have been reading everyone's posts though and keeping up to date with all your news.
Was so sad to hear Hetsto's news, I hope she's starting to recover (although I'm sure its something you never really get over).
Things ok here, lots of shuffling/kicking. Bump much bigger, finally invested in over-bump trousers for work-so much comfier than under bump. But trying to hold out without buying a winter coat- doesn't seem worth the money it for the time we've got left. Will just do lots of layers!
House is still a tip. Building site in back garden. Doesn't feel like we'll ever be sorted. But as long as the new kitchen is in and the nursery available for storage I reckon we'll be ok for the first few months.
Had whooping cough and flu vaccines last week. Put them in different arms, so wasn't comfy on either side in bed! sad
Three more weeks at work smile Its getting really tiring as am on my feet quite a lot. Definitely understand why all people with SPD are finishing sooner, it must be really difficult.
Have most people started packing bag? I keep putting it off, not sure why...

PinkWitch803 Thu 10-Oct-13 16:00:45

ItsLiz that sounds like a bargain. I will look to see if there is a similar type event near me. I will have to make sure the timing is right as I don't want to scare DP. We are running behind with the house preperations, mainly because of me generously giving my loving OH my cold and chest infection and by taking him to a baby event it might give him a heart attack. I will wait until we are a little more complete me thinks!

Happy birthday to your mister, I remember working as a contractor for my 30th and I had a little more disposable income that I had ever been used to, so I went all out and hired a bucking bronko and portaloo. It was a really great day and my DP really enjoyed it too. It took me two days to clear up, but such is life. But he doesn't get overly excited about birthdays and plays along with me because I love them. My step son is 18 in Feb, so trying to do something special for him like send him and DP off to watch Liverpool play while I visit my friend to coo at the baby!

As for my bags, I am getting there. If I had to go to hospital today I would be ok and would only need DP to get a few bits and peices. but it isn't organised to my OCD standards LOL.

stom - complain smile

qumquat I am pleased your day is better than yesterday. We are all with you.

I have been listing all my work on a spreadsheet to give to my line manager and have reached 42 lines and I am sure there is more I have missed. I am now going through the 200 odd emails in my inbox to close some things down, add them to my list or say goodbye. It is quite tiring, but when it is done, on go the out of offices and off goes the computer

PinkWitch803 Thu 10-Oct-13 16:10:29

mumoftwoboysS Thanks for the advice re manual pumps and sorry about your dream/nightmare. that isn't a nice thought let alone personal film in your head!

meandbumpy Thu 10-Oct-13 16:32:21

Oh could it really be braxton hicks? That's exciting, thanks for letting me know mum

Stom91 Thu 10-Oct-13 16:34:40

He was juat so rude!! What a wasted trip!! He's association site it says that it can affect pregnancy etc... That was the whole reason my Mw sent me to him!! He made me fee so small!

Yeah I'm going to have a moan to my midwife when I see her next week

Feeling so tired last couple days! I've found myself falling asleep in the afternoon! I haven't even don't anything.. Popped to town for 20 me n's is about the most I've done... I can't manage much as I'm so. Out of breath.. I hate pregnancy so much. Roll on December xx

PistachioTruffle Thu 10-Oct-13 16:43:01

Itsliz, I'm envy of your snacks, there were no refreshments at the store we went to! It did have a good atmosphere though, and We got a few things with the discount: a baby monitor, Moses basket mattress, bi