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April 2014 - Thread 2 or 3 depending on which way you count!

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LeeHandy Tue 17-Sep-13 17:57:20

Hello ladies.. the previous thread is almost full so I thought it's time to move on to a new one to mark the start of trimester 2. Here's to fewer bouts of sickness and more "glowing" all around!

Vikkijayne2507 Tue 17-Sep-13 18:38:41

Ooo shiny new thread. Im hardly eating have no appetite other than crisps, tomatoes and onions and mozzarella cheese nothing else and only a bit of those

mamapants Tue 17-Sep-13 19:06:07

Hope everyone is doing ok- between sickness, crashes and exhaustion.

I am mainly only contending with exhaustion not helped by a toddler who is teething and congested. Attempts to night wean have failed. Hopefully we can have another more successful attempt before bump has matured.

Am still waiting for my scan appointment! Am not sure if I should phone midwife to chase it up. Am properly envy at all of you who have either had scans or about too.

catameringue Tue 17-Sep-13 19:51:28

I've been living of salt and vinegar crisps, and pasta and sauce. Feeling on the verge of being sick right now, it's flared up again after a period of calm.

Finally told my dm and df. Only told three people, but it's amazing how suddenly everyone appears to be an expert.

prettyinpink90 Tue 17-Sep-13 20:19:11

Just popping in to day hello on the new thread smile

mamapants Tue 17-Sep-13 20:21:24

Must be exciting telling people cat
You had an early scan didn't you?

Am waiting for scan before telling people. Do occassionally think about telling people but really just want to see him/ her first.

pinkpeoniesplease Tue 17-Sep-13 20:55:41

Marking my place...

Sorry to hear so many people feeling unwell.
I have my scan Thursday and am feeling really anxious, I saw a heartbeat at 7 weeks but am still so worried and thinking about mmc statistics sad
It's nice hearing about the positive stories of scans on here though!

ChocChaffinch Tue 17-Sep-13 21:00:01

hello fellow glowers. I am a wilter, more of a sweating lump of dough than a blooming glower grin

put my back out today hauling food round asda. Feels a bit sciatic, shooting pains down my legs etc. Have to now be v v careful with my back....

also have sore throat, and you literally aren't allowed any type of throat pastille/lockets while pg are you.

catameringue Tue 17-Sep-13 21:23:11

Yes I did have early scan but I've only told people when I've had to. I.e. because I can no longer drink/do crazy things etc and I felt an explanation was deserved.

I am quite worried each time symptoms subside, though wish them away again when they re-appear!

LightTripper Tue 17-Sep-13 22:46:17

Hello all!

Still feeling quite sick, but only actually sick once most days now, and managed to get some proper work done today, so feeling a bit calmer about it.

Sorry, way TMI coming up, please feel free to skip the rest, I just feel the need to share, having nobody to moan to but my poor OH! I also (why is this harder to own up to than vomminess?) am quite loose and very ... Erm ... Windy. I thought pregnancy was supposed to bung you up?

Anyway, getting used to it I suppose, so it's getting easier to handle. Still get very annoyed when I mistime food and throw up though. So dull. At least I'm not eating anything interesting, so it all just tastes of orange squash on the way back.

LeeHandy Wed 18-Sep-13 08:45:14

good morning! a heavily pregnant lady was sitting next to me on the train to work and she was looking so uncomfortable I felt sorry for her. then felt a bit sorry that I am going to be in that state in a few months. shock
good luck for your scan today Suzy!
what time is your scan tomorrow, Pink? I have mine at 8.15 am tomorrow and am quite nervous about it as well. I think tomorrow is when DH and I will finally believe it's real.

Fairypants Wed 18-Sep-13 10:06:20

I could use some advice today. I had some browny spotting yesterday and discussed it with the mw who wasn't worried. Today though, it has turned v pink but still spotting (although there was a bit of a gush when I first got up to go to the loo). I've also noticed a dull ache low down but its only really noticeable when I move around. I'm really worried but not sure if I'm overreacting as I haven't had any spotting with either of my previous pregnancies.

pinkpeoniesplease Wed 18-Sep-13 11:02:51

Lee- mine is at 9. I think we're lucky it's early, I'm just wishing the time away now!

Fairy- I had spotting/bleeding quite often until I was 9 weeks, always pink or red. I wasn't worried as I've read it's really common but I did see the Dr and had a HCG test all was fine.

ChocChaffinch Wed 18-Sep-13 11:40:12

how's it now, fairypants?

prettyinpink90 Wed 18-Sep-13 11:40:28

Morning ladies!

suzy good luck for your scan today! Let us know how it goes.
Hope your scans go ok tomorrow lee and pink

I have my booking in appointment on Friday, not sure what to expect but I'm sure there will be lots of talking about family history, current health and a blood test (I've never even had a blood test before!). Does the midwife use a Doppler to listen to the babies heartbeat?

Fairypants Wed 18-Sep-13 11:47:18

Thanks for the reassurance pink.

It seems to be getting worse - a bit darker and more bleeding than spotting, although still not a lot. I called the mw who has referred me to EPU tomorrow. I wish I'd called straight off this morning as EPU closes at 11-exactly the time I called the mw. It's just a waiting game now but it's going to be a long day!!

catameringue Wed 18-Sep-13 12:35:00

It's good they are checking bit out though fairy.

I hope there's something you can do today where you can put your feet up and distract yourself x

ChocChaffinch Wed 18-Sep-13 12:50:39

I just finished the other thread, prob confused the hell out of everyone but nevermind


as you were grin

learnasyougo Wed 18-Sep-13 13:20:35

My scan this morning has bumped my due date to two days sooner. I was charting though, so I KNOW that is off by around 5 days. Still, that's not an issue unless I start going overdue and they want to induce.

relieved it's a solo passenger, not sure I could handle three under 2 (DS had just turned one).

Fun and games getting blood out of my arm. I have tiny veins made of rubber. it took three people five goes to get blood. They resorted to ringing around other departments to find someone with the magic touch. I now have plasters on each arm. I was there for about 40 minutes. Good job I'm no needle-phobe.

everything looks good and I'm feeling very bouyed now I've seen my 12 weeker, somersaulting about in there. Good luck, my little gastronaut, enjoy my rumbly tummy noises (once you can hear).


SuzyP36 Wed 18-Sep-13 13:21:42

I'm here smile posted on the old thread.
I'm excited now I have my pics of my baby. Hope every1's scans have gone well so far

Xavielli Wed 18-Sep-13 14:23:02


Xavielli Wed 18-Sep-13 14:24:12

Ing place

Booking in appointment took 2 hours this morning due to computers being down so it all had to be hand written.

cookielove Wed 18-Sep-13 14:37:18

Hello all.

Big shout out to Choc grin

Oh dear, come home from work with a mahooosive headache!!

And l actually have become a Cookie monster, l made loads of cookies and eaten most of them blush

catameringue Wed 18-Sep-13 17:04:19

All foods are smelly and hideous.

The only thing left is chocolate.

I'm going to be a whale.

Cannotbelieveit Wed 18-Sep-13 17:11:35

Marking my place! x

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 18-Sep-13 17:26:55

I have zero appetite still I have eaten 2 kellogs chocolate cereal bars today and 2 cups of tea and dont feel hungry. I gagged a bit earlier today and felt really nauseous at lunch. But just dont feel very hungry thats not good. But I am massively bloated look 7 months pregnant rather than almost three. Im starting to get anxious about mmc or problems. Theres not much to do but wait until next week friday am hating the wait sad

cookielove Wed 18-Sep-13 18:33:46

Hello again.

Went to the dentist, been about 7 years since last check, (without the nhs card) as I am a new patient they asked if I was exempt and I said yes as I'm pregnant, but don't have my card yet. So I had a check up, a clean and a small filling (no pain relief) and they charged me absolutely nothing. Felt a bit naughty leaving shock

Dh only got charged £49 for his check up, 3 xrays, 2 fillings and a tooth removal. I thought it would be more expensive than that.

Bodeccia Wed 18-Sep-13 20:11:14

That's really cheap, cookie! I'm going to the dentist next week, and I always think its going to cost a fortune.

I really need to get some new clothes, I'm wearing my stretchy, comfortable clothes at work, and they're just not professional enough. I'm thinking of biting the bullet and getting maternity clothes. I also need smart flat shoes - heels aren't an option at the mo. so I'm thinking brogues, a smart pair of trousers and some tops. That should do.


ChocChaffinch Wed 18-Sep-13 20:20:10

clarks hamble oaks are lovely brogues, v confy and a blowout but quality and will last. I got the black ones for work.

Ninunina Wed 18-Sep-13 21:33:26

Marking my place too! Have been posting mainly on the Facebook group but always catch up here as well. Scan next Monday. .. will be 12+3! I can't wait. My sudden lack of morning sickness is starting to worry me.

Ninunina Wed 18-Sep-13 21:34:46

Marking my place too! Have been posting mainly on the Facebook group but always catch up here as well. Scan next Monday. .. will be 12+3! I can't wait. My sudden lack of morning sickness is starting to worry me.

Misty9 Wed 18-Sep-13 21:48:52

Hi all
Can't believe how many people are having scans already! Haven't heard when mine is yet but hopefully in next couple of weeks. As for telling people, I've had no choice with the size I am! I've decided I must be growing an elephant because the baby sure isn't that big yet grin. All family knows and some friends. Had to tell boss weeks ago due to sickness and new job stuff.

Walked more today than I have done in ages, and now feeling the SPD starting sad can't see osteopath until 12 weeks so hoping it won't get any worse before then. Really need to be able to run around after 2yo ds! I have the blandest diet due to sickness first and now horrible heartburn. Poor dh, he's craving a takeaway curry smile

fairypants how are you now?

Misty9 Wed 18-Sep-13 21:49:19

Oops, forgot

catameringue Wed 18-Sep-13 22:13:29

I've got booking appt next week but not heard about scan. Guess everywhere is different. Seems very over subscribed where I am.

Question: can u literally pick which hospital/birth centre u want anywhere or does it have to be within your area or something?

I'm struggling getting vitamin pills down and have missed a few. This is bad and now I feel guilty about it. I'm trying but the sickness has flared up again.

nevergoogle Wed 18-Sep-13 22:29:24

Jeez, this nausea has gone bananas.
I'm assuming it's a surge in hormones as my skin has also gone hideous.

I'm eating small bland meals, all served through gritted teeth by my DH who is really trying his best to accommodate my sudden uselessness.

mostly i'm snacking on tuc crackers, toast, and moffat toffee.

and i'm eating every hour, i am going to be ginormous come april.

have been off work since tuesday with this nausea and extreme tiredness, i'm sleeping or laying still mostly.

This can't continue, I have to work as I'm the main earner.

<whinge whinge whinge>


learnasyougo Thu 19-Sep-13 04:41:58

nevergoogle I had debilitating sickness with my first pregnancy and it came back with a vengeance for 6 days and then went. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
I still hatred curry for tje duration of the pregnancy though, thanks to a hot one burning me twice. I like a hot curry, but something about the acidity when it comes back up makes it far hotterconfused
This time my nausea has been a breeze! Some people have no idea how bad it can be.

Te the question on coding where to have your birth, my local midwife is connected to two hospitals locally, but I know I could choose one outside the area if I wanted. I won't because we don't have a car and last time I was kept in for a week and for DH it was handy to be nearby.
Bear in mind, even a short car journey is horrendous when in full blown labour, but you also don't want to be at the hospital in too early a labour -pre labour can take days. So I wouldn't pick somewhere TOO far.


LeeHandy Thu 19-Sep-13 07:12:25

good luck today pink!
cata in theory I had a choice of 2 hospitals as well because of distance (my GP told me I could choose) however when it came down to it, because the two belong to two different trusts I have to go to the one that's in my area.

longbath Thu 19-Sep-13 07:45:10

Hello ladies and congratulations to everyone who's had great scans!

Apologies for joining so late; after losing the baby at 12 weeks last year, this time I was determined to get through the scan first. It went great and yesterday evening, much to my relief, I saw a healthy baby in there! Needless to say, last night I slept like a log and woke up with a smile on my face smile

I've been following the thread from the beginning though and been so looking forward to joining.

11+6, EDD April 5th (April 2nd according to the dating scan yesterday)

Cannotbelieveit Thu 19-Sep-13 08:31:15

Welcome long! Great news for you. Congrats x

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 08:32:00

congratulations longbath. great news about your scan.

i don't have my 12 week scan until the 30th. i just want to know that everything is ok, and it is a baby and not some molar pregnancy or phantom and to know that there's just one.

meanwhile, lots of lying still as it seems to be the only thing keeping the nausea at bay.

longbath Thu 19-Sep-13 08:54:43

Thanks cannot and never smile Is it still ok to join the FB group?

never, I know exactly where you're coming from, this 1st trimester was so slow! All I wanted was to get to the end of it and hear good news.

cookielove Thu 19-Sep-13 09:01:29

Hello all,

12 weeks today!! 5 days till my scan. And last day of work for a week and a day!

Cannotbelieveit Thu 19-Sep-13 09:09:51

Long just going to send you PM about fb x

LightTripper Thu 19-Sep-13 09:16:23

Just wanted to say welcome longbath! So glad your scan went well!

longbath Thu 19-Sep-13 09:35:17

Thanks so much light, I really wanted to join earlier but last year I joined, set up a fb group for everybody and then miscarried. So this time I didn't want to jinx it. I know - it's silly but I really needed all the odds to be in my favour, iykwim x

The scan yesterday was amazing, the zoom on that machine was unreal - we even saw fingers and toes smile

Good luck with your scan cookie

LightTripper Thu 19-Sep-13 09:56:47

I am totally the same. Never believe anything until you've got it in writing. If it weren't for my intense and deep seated need to have a good moan I wouldn't be here either!

Will join you all on the FB group when/if we're "public" post scan!

longbath Thu 19-Sep-13 10:08:45

Only 11 days to go light, although it does feel like a lifetime when you're waiting for a scan. I was like a ghost these past couple of weeks, couldn't think of anything else. But as soon as I saw the doctor looking at the screen all relaxed, I knew baby was fine! I wish you the same and then we can have a glass of water to celebrate ;) x

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 10:17:31

oh cookie I was moved forwards 2 days at my scan so now I'm not the same as you any more

be cool if you got moved forwards 2 as well!!


ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 10:19:49

aaah longbath that's lovely news

so amazing to see how detailed their little bodies are already, isn't it. I was thrilled to see that little heart going, as have had a MMC previously, only discovered at scan. delightful. and weird to think of them hidden inside, flip-flapping around. I wonder if they think!

LeeHandy Thu 19-Sep-13 10:27:39

Hi all, I just had my scan and everything looks great. The baby was jumping around a bit and was amazing to hear the heart beat. I can finally believe that we are really having a baby now. grin grin grin
congratulations and welcome long!!

longbath Thu 19-Sep-13 11:01:23

Thanks choc and lee - CONGRATS!!! I'm like a new person after the scan, relaxed and finally excited smile

pinkpeoniesplease Thu 19-Sep-13 12:39:38

I too am feeling like a different person! I was so anxious and am a bit in shock after my scan today that I'm actually having a baby shock

So pleased to hear your scans are going well grin

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 13:36:24

it is ALL REAL NOW!! even dh is different, more relaxed and accepting, he rubbed my tummy goodbye this morning grin

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 13:39:28

wonder who's going to have girls/ boys... and what names we'll all pick.. so exciting!

learnasyougo Thu 19-Sep-13 16:48:15

we're not intending to find out. same as last time. Luckily he was a boy, as we couldn't agree on a girl's name.grin

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 16:56:25

i don't know whether to find out or not. we have two boys already and busting with excitement at the prospect of having a girl. maybe finding out will give me time to nip that in the bud before I then feel cheated at having another boy. which of course will be lovely too.

Cannotbelieveit Thu 19-Sep-13 16:58:26

We have the names picked out already and don't have a preference for pink or blue! Just healthy will do! xx

CazInLondon Thu 19-Sep-13 17:01:01

Hello new thread!

Welcome Longbath - and can't imagine how awful it must have been for you and Choc to discover a MMC during the first scan, what a horrific experience to have to go through... Really happy for you that all is well!

I have a question, particularly to those who are on their 2nd or 3rd pregnancy: are you showing yet?? I'm a little bit anxious because I am meant to go back to work at 13 weeks (the week after my scan) and they don't know yet, don't think they'll be too impressed. I wonder if I should tell them straight after the scan (ie the week before I get back to work) or go back and try to hide it for as long as possible... The trouble is, not sure how much I'll show. With my son I started showing around 18 weeks. I'm not overweight but not particularly skinny either (5'7, size 10 on top and 12-14 bottom) and have always had a pot belly.

So wondering if anyone could share their experience... Any tips/advice welcome smile

And good luck for all the upcoming scans!



nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 17:21:53

3rd pregnancy here and people have been guessing since about 7 weeks.

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 18:46:23

Im showing, 3rd pg, usually a size 12 on top 14 on bottom
wearing lots of baggy tops/coat for school run til I have downs result

CazInLondon Thu 19-Sep-13 19:21:58

Gosh nevergoogle, that's early!!!

ChocChaffinch, how far along are you?

I feel bloated and uncomfortable with my jeans all done up, but it's definitely not visible yet to anyone but me. And I'm hoping that when it pops out, people will be too busy thinking about their own lives to notice (for a while at least!). But then again am only 9 weeks and a couple of days...


cookielove Thu 19-Sep-13 19:28:02

choc that puts you due on the 2nd of April, which is my birthday! Now it would be odd if I was moved forward!


ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 19:29:35

nah they say 1/4/14 yet Im having a section so really 26/3/14

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 19:30:29

I am 12+2
had my scan on weds.
wanted to wait for downs result in post but have told kids properly tonight. ds (5) wants a girl!!!

cookielove Thu 19-Sep-13 19:34:48

Ahhh thats so sweet of your ds! grin

I can't wait for my scan. Taps footvin impatience! !

Misty9 Thu 19-Sep-13 19:35:51

2nd pregnancy here and I've really popped in the last week and people are now "is she isn't she" if they don't know grin. I remember I showed early with ds too - definitely before scan as by the time we went public, anyone who saw me regularly wasn't surprised!
Nausea ramped up today and felt very wobbly and not with it today, shit day at work didn't help sad


learnasyougo Thu 19-Sep-13 19:36:32

I'm definitely showing. last time around I started showing around 14w, this time it's earlier. I'm quite the pear shape, though, a have always been rather lean around the middle (size 16 bum, mind) so that's probably why I show already. At least a big round tum makes my bum look smaller -or that's what I tell myself anyway. I'm dreading having to buy maternity trousers. I look bloody awful in 90% of trousers. Maternity wear is always such a tiny selection.sad

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 19:59:19

holy cow cookie - your birthday is my dh birthday

<<<weird wibbly music>>>

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 20:32:07

hmm, rather helpful bra lady in mothercare insists it's twins. shock

ChocChaffinch Thu 19-Sep-13 20:39:59

x-ray vision must be useful in her job

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 20:42:03

yes, no point going for the scan now.

cookielove Thu 19-Sep-13 20:54:16

choc spooky grin

never that made me lol

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 21:00:21

she was spot on with the bra size though. hmm

LightTripper Thu 19-Sep-13 22:53:18

Are you guys needing new bras due to pregnancy? I assumed that wasn't until near the end! Hmmm... My pre project research turns out to have been very lacking. Anyway, for the moment the boobs seem reasonably happy in their existing lodgings. Just as well, can barely make it to the corner shop (and although it stocks many surprising things - e.g. a variety of hookah pipe designs and sizes - not sure it would stretch to bras).

prettyinpink90 Thu 19-Sep-13 23:01:07

light I'm definitley in need of new bra's. I bought some new ones in July after loosing 2st and dropping a few cup sizes which fit perfectly but over the past few weeks I've noticed a double boob effect under my tops... not a good look! Didn't think they got bigger until later on.

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 23:01:09

i was very uncomfortable in my usual underwired bras. i've switched to softer, and much larger size for now. heaven.

nevergoogle Thu 19-Sep-13 23:02:18

i think you get bigger in the first trimester, then not much bigger until your milk comes in.

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 19-Sep-13 23:07:13

im usually a 34d and couldn't fit ub nt normal Size qiew bra by 7 wks they were so sore si bought a maternity bra and it's heaven. I think they have chilled out in growth now but still bit sore and harder than b4

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 19-Sep-13 23:08:00

oh 11+ 3 wks

learnasyougo Fri 20-Sep-13 01:34:10

you guys should definitely check out the numerous bra intervention threads on here. This adding 4 or 5 to you're band measurement is all wrong apparently. I thought I was a 34DD, but I'm actually a 32G! my bras fit beautifully now.

dobedobedo Fri 20-Sep-13 08:38:37

Hey can I join in? JUST found out I'm 12 weeks pregnant. So the whole first trimester lasted a week for me. Thank Jeebus!

Number 2 for me - I have an 8 year old boy too!

Cannotbelieveit Fri 20-Sep-13 09:04:50

Welcome dobe!! How great to fly thru that bit!

cookielove Fri 20-Sep-13 09:26:31

Wow dobe you skipped the best part grin

longbath Fri 20-Sep-13 09:38:24

dobe, that's so convenient, I'm jealous ;) Haven't you had any symptoms at all? Congrats and welcome x

I definitely need a new bra. Showing a little bit but it's mostly donuts at this stage; I'm going to look like a whale, no doubts about that confused


dobedobedo Fri 20-Sep-13 09:51:19

Oh I have had symptoms. Bleuugh. And I've went right off most foods. Especially sweet things and chocolate! I was in Italy for a couple of weeks and I put it down to all the wine and weird raw meats I was eating. Also I broke my ribs in a go karting accident a couple of months ago so put the missed periods down to that!
Really it's quite amazing I'm still pregnant at all! Hopefully the not knowing doesn't mean I've done any damage. I'm trying to remain positive. Haven't had a scan yet, but a midwife is coming to see me at home this weekend and she said she'll sort one pronto.
I remember being a nervous wreck with my first - I acted as if I was terminally ill, and that's no good for anyone! This time I'm determined to try and take it in my stride and enjoy it.
My other half (dp I think you kids are calling it these days) is taking really good care of me, bless him. This is his first baby and he's buying all the books and ginger nut biscuits (eating most himself, mind) and other pregnancy tests just to "make sure". Plonker! grin

cookielove Fri 20-Sep-13 09:54:17

Ahhh thats really sweet of of your oh. I wish dh would buy me pregnancy test. He put a ban on them blush

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 10:13:30

I've got a spare test in my drawer! Only ever used 1 in my life, and it said YES in about 2 seconds flat. Does that make me a weirdo?! wink

Given how I'm feeling I amnesty confident the hormones are still there. Blech. Had a nice morning com today to make a lovely change... Maybe it means I'll get a day off evening hell, what do you reckon? hmm

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 10:14:08

Amnesty = am pretty. Sheesh!

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 10:16:04

And com = vom. Maybe my autocorrect is trying to protect you all from my moaning?

Still, 9+2, and 1 week to first scan, so holding on to that as the next "target"! Just need to hang on in there...

longbath Fri 20-Sep-13 10:27:25

Hi light, 1 week... I wish I could say it was going to go very fast, sorry sad Do you have another scan scheduled for around 12 weeks? x

dobe At least you had a chance to fully enjoy Italy, if you had known you were pg, there wouldn't have been any wine and raw meats ;)



LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 10:49:57

Thanks long! Yes, I have a normal 12 week one too - this is just associated with Harmony, but should be good enough to tell me if there is a foetus and whether it is in roughly the right place I hope. I am also slightly scared in case it's twins, given me feeling quite rough, and I have twin first cousins... I have friends with twins and they are super cute (girl and boy! Why is that cuter?), but we didn't really see them for the first year, they were so knackered!

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 10:51:20

Hmm just had another thought... Suspect my morning vom may have lost my vitamin tablet... Should I take another one do you think? I also have some straight folic acid, maybe that would be safer to make sure I don't get too much of anything else?

dobedobedo Fri 20-Sep-13 11:06:15

Dunno Light - another folic acid can't hurt, can it?

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 11:10:43

Thanks dobedobedo (love your name!). I am going to do that - I don't think it can do any harm. And also congratulations on zooming straight into week 12!!!

prettyinpink90 Fri 20-Sep-13 11:39:18

Morning ladies!

dobe congrats! how lovely that you have already skipped your first trimester. Your OH sounds just as excited aside, aren't they sweet!

I've had my booking in scan this morning which was exciting but so much to take in! She was telling me about the birth centre where she delivers and it sounds so lovely, much more personal than our local hospital but feel a little wary if something went wrong and we needed to be rushed to the hospital. Has anyone else chosen a birth centre over a hospital?
My scan is on the 7th October when I'll be 12+1. Chosen to go for the combined screening scan.

dobedobedo Fri 20-Sep-13 12:14:39

Pretty The birth centre sounds lovely - I'm hoping there's one near to where I live, go for it. I had my first in a normal labour ward in a hospital but they transferred me to the birth centre for five days after the birth so I could get the hang of breastfeeding! I know, jammy cow! The normal maternity ward was full.
My other half is way more excited/nervous/scared/everything than me. It's weird. I never would have expected him to react like this. It's nice! (if a little annoying!)

cookielove Fri 20-Sep-13 14:39:16

I've chosen a hospital but the midwife led unit within it! As I want a water birth smile

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 20-Sep-13 17:22:25

I heard the HB on my doppler. Im amazed. It was defo not my hb as I could hear mine as well and it was vvv fast but i kept losing it quickly so couldnt count but much faster than mine. Am all funny now its actually real just wow wow. Scan is next week and I feel much better was starting to worry for no reason there was nothing there.

11 + 4 wks

LightTripper Fri 20-Sep-13 17:41:15

Oh wow Vikki, that's so exciting!! And now you don't have to be so on tenterhooks for the scan, yay!

Cannotbelieveit Fri 20-Sep-13 21:29:53

Private scan was all good x dates matched up with mine! Feel so relieved now!

Now if I didn't have the beginnings of tonsillitis and ear ache, I would be dancing x


pinkpeoniesplease Sat 21-Sep-13 07:41:35

So pleased it went well cannot, hope you feel better soon!!

LeeHandy Sat 21-Sep-13 07:47:59

congrats dobe! it's pretty cool you skipped so much stress and arrived straight at 12 weeks!
I had a stressful day after my nuchal and scan on Thursday. The tests were perfect - my risk for Downs is 1 in 2528 which is low. My due date was moved 2 days so now I am due on March 31st and presumably I am only 12+5 today instead of being 13 weeks.
But I came home and was getting ready for work when I took a tumble down the stairs! scared myself silly because my tights and pants were soaked through and I was sure I was leaking amniotic fluid. Luckily my epu was really nice because they called me in for a scan the same evening even though it was after hours and thankfully, everything was normal. DH and I were so scared, I have now ordered a doppler so we can monitor baby ourselves.

oh and at the scan they said that there's a 70% chance it's a boy! shock I wanted a girl but there's still hope. As long as baby is fine, I guess it's all good though.

LeeHandy Sat 21-Sep-13 07:48:44

glad your scan went well*cannot*!

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 21-Sep-13 08:18:47

Sounds very stressful LeeHandy glad all is well thats exciting you have a good idea what your having this early

LightTripper Sat 21-Sep-13 08:22:13

Oh Lee, sounds horrible! Glad it ended well. There's just no end of scary stuff is there?

This pregnancy is turning me into a morning person. Going to bed earlier and earlier to avoid sickness (luckily lying down seems to help, and I don't tend to wake up in the middle of the night feeling sick). Which means 7am on a Saturday, feeling a bit queasy but not too bad, aware it's going to be my best bit of the day... So weird!! Usually I am a total night owl. Not sure i approve of the change. OH is still asleep, so might actually have to do some work shock

Definitelysometime Sat 21-Sep-13 12:16:49

Wow, Lee - congrats on the scan. How on earth could they tell 70% on the sex already? That's amazing. Also, you got your results super quickly. I had my 12 wk scan on Tuesday. Nuchal measurement looked ok I think but we won't get the results, and percentages, for a couple more weeks. Yet more waiting. The scan is just amazing though, isn't it?!

learnasyougo Sat 21-Sep-13 15:06:25

my down's screening results have come back and it's 1:5096 which is very low. The radiographer said going by just the nt measurement it already looked good. (1.3mm). Baby measured 5.3cm, so about 2 inches. it's amazing how quickly they grow. Organs are all there. mind blowing, really.


LightTripper Sat 21-Sep-13 15:29:06

Good news learn! How long did you have to wait between scan and results?

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 21-Sep-13 18:32:09

Lots of good news stories good stuff ladies

LeeHandy Sat 21-Sep-13 22:01:36

thanks Light and Vikki!
definitely my scan was at the Harris birthright centre where they do a lot of research so there was a senior person floating around giving instructions to the ultrasound operator. He showed us a line on the baby and said if that line was at 45 degrees it would be a boy and if horizontal, it would probably be a girl. TBH I don't know what it was or if he knew anything at all, but that's what he said! smile
We had to only wait half an hour for our nuchal results so the whole process was really quick and efficient.

LeeHandy Sat 21-Sep-13 22:02:14

great news on your scan learn!

Chasingclouds Sun 22-Sep-13 01:54:20

Hello, I am new here, first ever message actually! Due April 20th with #2, terrified of mmc because of 2 prior so properly on edge till my scan. Nausea started early at 5 weeks and I wanted to actually diiiiiiiiieeeeee but it seems to have lessened this last week, though I still have some very bad moments. Much worse than with my first!

Finally have my booking appt on Tuesday morning, does everyone else have green notes? Mine were yellow last time.

Look forward to getting to know you all smile

Misty9 Sun 22-Sep-13 07:39:24

Welcome chasing I'm on my 2nd too and also have awful nausea with this one when I didn't with ds. Horrible isn't it? It's lessening now and mostly horrid heartburn instead - but as long as I don't let myself get hungry it's not too bad. I have to eat porridge before bed every night else I feel terrible in the morning smile

My notes were yellow last time too, and I think they're green this time. Apparently they're pushing for standardised notes across the country (we're in different county to last time). Had my scan date through and it is the day we move house shock so I'm hoping I can change it...

Feeling very tired after being kicked in the back by ds (2) most the night as he woke last night and wouldn't go back in his own bed. We've ordered a superking size bed and it can't arrive too soon!

Hope all have good days, whatever the weather.

Misty9 Sun 22-Sep-13 07:40:27

Oops, forgot again - 11+1

CazInLondon Sun 22-Sep-13 08:02:02

Welcome chasingclouds, and fingers crossed for you! Am also expectingt second, have had one MC in the past before my DS.

What do the colours on your notes mean?? Don't remember anything about it the last time round (and it was only last year!).

I have my booking in appointment at 10 o'clock today (feels so weird that it's on a Sunday. I'm guessing they have to work 7 days a week to cope with demand!). Bit apprehensive of the blood test - I have had hundreds of them in my life due to past medical conditions, yet I'm more scared of them than ever, silly isn't it.

Anyways, hope you ladies have a lovely, sunny Sunday smile


LightTripper Sun 22-Sep-13 08:29:38

Welcome chasingclouds! I think you are just a bit ahead of me. Sorry about the sickness (and misty). I am not having a very easy time, but this is my first so at least I'm not trying to take care of a toddler too! My booking appointment is not until after my 12 week scan, so ages yet to find out what colour my notes are! smile


LightTripper Sun 22-Sep-13 08:30:40

And good luck for your booking in Caz!

Chasingclouds Sun 22-Sep-13 11:41:17

I should be 10+1 today, so the end is in sight, I'm hoping the sickness completely gets lost by 12 weeks because I'm so over it! I hope your house move goes well Misty, you're a brave soul doing it pregnant and with a toddler!! Are you moving far?

Thanks caz, I hope the blood tests go smoothly. My hubby hates needles too. I don't think the notes colours mean anything, it's just a different booklet than I had last time, though it was back in 2010. Seems more complicated with more pages tbh and they've renamed the "birth plan" section as "birth preferences"
It's weird - I got an appointment that I thought was my booking appointment, but was just a midwife giving me the notes and making me an appointment for my booking appointment, nice and uncomplicated!!

Really odd your scan is before your booking appointment light tripper!

This is disgusting but one of the things I seem to be able to eat no problem is... Chicken and mushroom pot noodles shock I had the strongest random craving for one that's turned into me eating one every night before bed! Even more shocking is how much better they've made me feel, but they're probably going to help me beat my record of putting on 4 stone last pregnancy (mostly on my bum hahaha!!)

Seems ok weather today, hope everyone has a good one xx

dobedobedo Sun 22-Sep-13 11:43:40

Hey! Yesterday I had my booking appointment with the midwife - she came to my house to do it. Everything seems so different this time around, compared to nine years ago with my first child. She tried to listen for the baby's heartbeat with the doppler but we only heard it faintly for a couple of seconds, which was disappointing for my other half as he didn't hear it because he didn't know what to listen for! Bless! Placenta sounds and blood supply sounds good apparently. Is it worth getting a doppler or do you think it will make me neurotically check for a heartbeat every five minutes?
Hopefully I'll get a scan next week.
Hope everyone else is doing good.

LightTripper Sun 22-Sep-13 12:23:43

Thanks chasing! They were booked at the same time, and the booking in is the Monday after the scan on Friday, so not too far apart. I am in Hackney and think maternity services are very busy here, so I assume it just means the Homerton is slightly less backed up than the midwife! The good thing is booking in is at my local surgery, so nice and easy to get to (not that the Homerton is hard... Feel very lucky to be so close to a good hospital: my sister was there for her mmc and they were lovely, so I feel in safe hands).

LightTripper Sun 22-Sep-13 13:30:47

Oh, and dobedo, I would definitely be neurotically checking all the time, but then I am a bit neurotic!

catameringue Sun 22-Sep-13 13:38:45

Hi all,
Well since The Big Sick three weeks ago and everyone giving good advice, I have been plodding along until today.

Today has been vomit central, I feel like I have a temp but no, completely normal. Struggling to get fluid down again. Hope it will pass.

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 22-Sep-13 14:23:17

my notes don't have a colour just a big white booklet. woke up 6am this morning needing loo and on way back to bed kick leg and toe on bed really hurt I then couldn't sleep and dss woke up at 7.30 all full of cold and so am very tired today

learnasyougo Sun 22-Sep-13 14:48:10

My queasiness and loss of appetite have come back, and I pondered to myself: 'but what if you were actually ill. How would you know you weren't just experiencing pregnancy nausea?'

when you get the runs like water and recurring stomach cramps, that's how. ladies, this had been my weekend so far. high temperature (though not too alarming) and unable to keep down even water.
NHS guidance is to avoid immodium etc, stay hydrated and contact gp if it lasts more than 48hrs.
Fortunately DP is a natural carer, so has been looking after DS(1) and bringing me water.

nevergoogle Sun 22-Sep-13 15:13:41

chasing, i agree on the pot noodle. horrible things really, but actually one of the few things i can stomach at the moment.

Cannotbelieveit Sun 22-Sep-13 16:37:28

Welcomed chasing!

I had my booking in today and hight risk just as i thought! Due to previous EMCS, high BP last time and my now high BMI.

This fluey thing I have is vile and I've now lost my voice too!

DS (nearly 6 months) was good as gold at the booking in and flirting with the midwives after he napped!

Went to TK Maxx after and bought him 2 gro bags as he's outgrown his others!


LightTripper Sun 22-Sep-13 16:53:01

Oh learn, that sounds vile. Well done your DP for holding the fort, and hope you feel better soon!

Chasingclouds Sun 22-Sep-13 18:01:21

Oh no there's not much worse than being ill while pregnant, I hope you feel better soon cannotbelieve How lovely your ds is so young, he's going to be bestest friends with #2 I bet! I wanted a small age gap but my periods didn't even come back till 20 mths after the birth, and my cycles were rubbish for ages after and I just couldn't get pregnant! Will you get extra monitoring being high risk? I wonder if I will be classed high risk for my first being premature?

My hubby is working till late 11pm ish tonight and the lights have decided to all fuse. Uurgh!! I am crap and don't know how to fix it, so I feel sorry for myself! At least I have a couple lamps I can use so it won't be pitch black. Hope everyone else has had a good day!

Misty9 Sun 22-Sep-13 19:28:11

We're old hands at moving chasing - this'll be ds's fourth house in two years, and our 8th in 5 years shock. Ds has taken the other moves in his stride (6wks, 7mo and 15mo) so we're hoping his being older won't mean he'll be too freaked out by this (final) one. Moving to our own place, at last.

Finally feeling more human (except in evenings) and managed some decorating of ds's room yesterday smile and a pub lunch today.


Cannotbelieveit Sun 22-Sep-13 19:44:26

Chasing itll be extra scans and checks and consultant appointments

The reason DS was emcs is cos I'd gone in for lack of movement and he still didn't move and his heart rate was really high. He seemed fine when he was born but the day after his blood sugared were checked cos he wasn't feeding properly and his blood sugars didn't even register they were that low. He spent 16 days in SCBU. And finally came out on his due date. I'm happy to have any extra checks as I don't want something. Like that happening again!

CazInLondon Sun 22-Sep-13 19:45:44

The appointment went well, thanks LightTripper and chasingclouds - the midwife called my name and as soon as she saw me she said "I recognise you" and I was like, "So do I!". I saw her a few times as she was following DS from birth for a few weeks, and he's 10 months now so it's still quite recent I guess. I was amazed at how small a world it is, it's London after all so quite vast and lots of MWs working in that big hospital smile

catameringue and learnasyougo, sounds horrible, really sorry you're having such a tough time. Hope it eases off and goes down to the level of just nausea, as opposed to not being able to keep anything down :/ (I'll stop feeling sorry for myself now, constant nausea's rubbish but at least am not throwing up!).


daftgeranium Sun 22-Sep-13 19:57:12

Hello all, 10+4 here, feeling a bit like a beached whale.....

cookielove Sun 22-Sep-13 20:26:34

Hello all smile

It is so great to hear how everyones scans are going, I've got mine on tuesday and l am soooooooooooooooo excited!

cookielove Sun 22-Sep-13 20:27:07

oh whoops I'm 12+3

Misty9 Sun 22-Sep-13 21:40:30

Just dug out the doppler and used good old vaseline. Heard the heartbeat!! Quite a moment and dh listened too smile


CazInLondon Mon 23-Sep-13 08:02:16

Must have been so lovely Misty9 smile

cookielove Mon 23-Sep-13 09:12:39

I so want a doppler now!

dobedobedo Mon 23-Sep-13 10:05:09

Arghhhhh think I'm going to have to tell my boss I'm pregnant today. She's getting suspicious about the time off (for blood tests and then there's the scan soon and all that jazz) and I don't want her complaining that I'm skiving or something. Also she keeps asking me to carry heavy boxes, desks etc and I'm sure I'm not supposed to be at that!
Wish me luck - she's not going to be happy.

LeeHandy Mon 23-Sep-13 11:47:52

I ordered a doppler and expecting it today. can't wait. grin
dobe good luck! hope your boss takes it decently.
I have a question for the second, third timers here. How does it feel to have baby move? I read that you feel it earlier when you know what it feels like. I am trying to figure out if vague butterflies in stomach is gas baby moving. smile
13 weeks today according to dating scan.

LightTripper Mon 23-Sep-13 12:52:37

Good luck dobedo! Fwiw I was worried about telling mine (she sailed through her pregnancies working like a machine) but actually she has been very cool and flexible about it - I'm now finishing early on weekdays and doing a bit on weekend mornings to catch up, so I still feel like I'm doing my bit, but I'm doing it mainly from home and she's been great about telling me not to do things that aren't absolutely necessary, and generally pretty supportive. Not sure how long this will last, but so far so good! Fingers crossed yours is also understanding when it comes to it...

dobedobedo Mon 23-Sep-13 13:27:47

Well I told my boss, and she was fine about it actually, phew!
I don't think I need to reduce my hours yet or anything, but a little nap at lunchtime would be amazing. Think that's pushing my luck though! grin

I think I've popped out a bit. My trousers definitely feel tighter than they were last week and I haven't put on weight, so I can only assume it's the baby. I still don't know when the scan will be - I really hope it's this week or next! I'll be 13 weeks on Wednesday!

Chasingclouds Mon 23-Sep-13 15:29:59

LeeHandy it depends on your placenta - I had an anterior placenta meaning it was on the front so it blocked most of the movement feelings so I missed all the early little flutters and only started feeling the big kicks that happened to the side of the placenta from about 20, 21 weeks onwards. I think 13 weeks very early for a first baby, it's usually between 18-22wks, but it could be I suppose. I'm hoping for a posterior one this time!!

I reeeeeaaaaally want a Doppler too, but hubby has forbid it, said I will drive myself crazy with it, the big spoilsport!

I'm still a stay at home mummy to my toddler so no work to worry about telling, but I'm not looking forward to telling my mother!

crazycranberry Mon 23-Sep-13 17:07:59

chasingclouds Pot Noodles eh? Weirdly I had a craving for a beef and tomato one just the other day (not had one in years!) but annoyingly I got halfway though it and didn't fancy it anymore! This is happening with most meals. I get halfway though and then it's like my body just says "nope - no more of that please" angry

Did a little bit of decorating at the weekend but still found I needed a nap in the afternoon (must be my age! Haha). Nausea still very much there 24hrs but at least I am making myself eat this time (I was sick for 17weeks with DS and I actually LOST weight!).

Got my scan booked for 10th Oct - cant wait!!!! I do hope everything will be ok. The wait is nerve wracking isn't it?!!! Had booking appt last week and midwife did go on and on about downs etc due to my age. Not the great appointment I hoped for sad

DP is brig a total STAR! He makes me breakfast in bed every day now (can't seem to get up without a bowl of porridge inside me first!) and he is making school lunch for my DS. This will be his first baby and he is doing a great job of being totally supportive. I am very very lucky. [big grin]

10weeks today

crazycranberry Mon 23-Sep-13 17:08:53

Brig = being

CazInLondon Mon 23-Sep-13 17:33:02

Hi LeeHandy, with my first I started to suspect I was feeling movement at around 17 weeks. The best way I can describe it is like when you have gas and little bubbles move in your lower belly - super subtle at first. The funny thing is, during the 8 months' break I had in between my previous pregnancy and this one, I got this bubble sensation a lot, clearly it was gas but every time I thought "Hey, it's the same as when the baby was first moving!".

crazycranberry, we're scan buddies, mine's also on 10/10 smile

9+6 xx

bLooming2 Mon 23-Sep-13 18:20:41

hi all havnt been on here for a while im also craving beef potnoodles with crusty bread to dip in grin has anyone else been prescribed sickness tablets and feel like there wearing off also anyone else going to QA Portsmouth
12 weeks

Chasingclouds Mon 23-Sep-13 18:39:03

crazycranberry what a horrible midwife you had, I wouldn't give the age thing two thoughts. I don't know how old you are but last year my 44 year old friend delivered a perfect little boy, yet my 23 year old friend (god I wish I was that young still!) got a result back for downs screening of very low risk, less than 1 in 15000 chance, every scan looked perfect, then she delivered a gorgeous little girl who sadly had Down's syndrome. Point being, statistics don't mean a hoot when you're the wrong side of them, so ignore it all and enjoy your pregnancy. Your DP sounds like an absolute star! My hubby only shows concern when my nausea is interfering with his sex requests haha!


LightTripper Mon 23-Sep-13 18:42:37

I was prescribed some blooming, but gave up on them quite quickly because I still felt awful, just took longer to throw up (which is sometimes a relief!). So now I'm trying to manage it through eating and sleep. Might take one in the morning though, as I have a client meeting ... Dreading it!

Vikkijayne2507 Mon 23-Sep-13 19:33:56

my oh heard heartbeat on doppler yesterday took agea but the grin he gave when he heard ut was worth the wait

Vikkijayne2507 Mon 23-Sep-13 19:34:20

12 weeks today

cookielove Mon 23-Sep-13 22:34:14

Scan tomorrow smile

Sooo excited 12+4

Chasingclouds Mon 23-Sep-13 23:07:44

Aaahh how lovely best of luck tomorrow cookie hope everything is perfect and you gets some great pics of your little one! I wish it was mine tomorrow I've no date yet.

prettyinpink90 Tue 24-Sep-13 08:37:41

Good luck for your scan today cookie!

cookielove Tue 24-Sep-13 16:26:25

Thank you for the last luck. However I found out the baby died at 8+ weeks. So sorry ladies I will be leaving you sad

LightTripper Tue 24-Sep-13 17:18:14

I'm so sorry cookie xx

prettyinpink90 Tue 24-Sep-13 17:44:34

I am so sorry cookie thanks please look after yourself x

mamapants Tue 24-Sep-13 17:47:59

So sorry cookie

cookielove Tue 24-Sep-13 18:13:02

Thank you all x

LeeHandy Tue 24-Sep-13 18:48:20

oh I am so sorry cookie! that's dreadful news. thanks

crazycranberry Tue 24-Sep-13 19:09:08

Big hugs coming your way cookie
Sorry to hear your news. Take care if yourself Hun x

nevergoogle Tue 24-Sep-13 20:20:10

oh cookie, that's so sad. lots of love you and your partner. x

Chasingclouds Tue 24-Sep-13 22:36:02

Oh no cookie I am so very sorry for your loss! I hope you find peace and I wish you all the best for the future sad xxxx

CazInLondon Tue 24-Sep-13 22:43:46

So very sorry cookielove, please take care of yourself and a huge hug xx

learnasyougo Wed 25-Sep-13 02:40:01

sad I'm so sorry, cookie. How terrible to find out like this. Be gentle to yourself and I hope you have people around you for support. thanks

cookielove Wed 25-Sep-13 09:01:18

Its the worse news possible. But the truth of it is we wanted a healthy baby and the baby died because it was poorly (you could see this on the scan which is unusual) so even though I am totally devastated, some very small part knows it will be ok. And we can try again. The main problem is we really wanted this baby!

dobedobedo Wed 25-Sep-13 09:46:16

So sorry to hear about this Cookielove :-(
Hope you've got lots of support xxx

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 09:46:19

Must be so hard to take. Before I got pregnant I knew early mc was quite common and thought I would deal with it ok if it happened, but now I'm here I know I would handle it very badly indeed. I just had no idea how pregnant you feel, even early on. As much as you tell yourself you won't assume anything before the scan you just can't help feeling somehow connected before then.

Good that your OH is supportive, I know when my sis had hers having her partner there made such a difference. I have never wanted to hug him so much, he was so sad but so strong for her. Do give yourself some time, it is a big thing to get used to.

Big hugs to you and Mr Cookielove. Xx

Chasingclouds Wed 25-Sep-13 11:53:25

I know how you feel as I've had 2 prior missed mcs. Before the first I just thought if something was wrong I would start bleeding, I had no idea you could have lost the baby with no signs at all and like you, I found out at my 12 week scan. Heartbroken doesn't even cover it does it sad I chose to have a d&c procedure because I didn't feel up to the ordeal of taking the tablets that make you miscarry, and I couldn't face waiting for possibly months to miscarry naturally. It was actually fine, and the cycle after the procedure I conceived again, this time with a healthy baby, and honestly I feel no sadness for it now looking back because the mcs were for a reason, there was something wrong both times and it would never have been a baby, and if it wasn't for those steps on the path I wouldn't have my 2.5yr old, who is the light of my soul, if that makes sense. Sending you lots and lots of love xxxx

ChocChaffinch Wed 25-Sep-13 13:29:31

ah cookie thanks
I am so sorry.
take it easy. X

ThedementedPenguin Wed 25-Sep-13 15:04:32

I'm back. Sorry for being so flaky on this thread. However I've just done a quick catch up on last couple of pages.

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss cookie.

I'm almost certain I can feel baby move. Every so often I get this strange feeling which I'm certain is baby.

My ds had his one year injections yesterday, poor wee man. However, seems to have coped okay.


dobedobedo Wed 25-Sep-13 15:17:57

Hi thedementedpenguin - I thought I felt something move last night too, though it may just have been a fart brewing blush

My sickness seems to have really ramped up today, I feel bloody awful. I still haven't had a scan date so, since it's payday today, I went and booked a private dating scan for tomorrow night. I just can't stand the waiting any more - my midwife said it could be another 2-3 weeks before I get one on the nhs and I'm already 13+1!

Last night I dreamed I had a scan and it was just mashed potato and soup in my uterus - I'm quite nervous about it, obviously!

learnasyougo Wed 25-Sep-13 15:27:53

Mashed potato and soup, haha, is that what all is bloating is?

If you are 13+1 they don't have much time to waste as the nt scan must be done by 14+1. Have you rung the hospital? It could be they lost your referral or something.

dobedobedo Wed 25-Sep-13 15:32:20

They said if they missed the date for the nt scan, they could do a different test - forget what it was called. Because I only got registered with a doc and midwife last Saturday (I only found out I was preg a week before that) - everything is just taking it's time. I'm only 13+1 going by dates, but I could be less so after the dating scan, I'll have a better idea about the exact amount of hassling of the hospital I'll have to do!

Chasingclouds Wed 25-Sep-13 15:55:46

I think they will do the quad test instead dobedo it's what I had the option of when I was pregnant with my first because they didn't offer the NT scan and blood test then. The quad is literally just a blood test they do and the computer takes the results and calculates your percentage risk, if it's high you can discuss options from there.

I'm 10+4 and have no scan date yet.

Had my booking in appointment and it took ages. The midwife managed to mess up my bloods so she stabbed me once in my left arm, and 3 times in my right arm before she managed it, and I have great big visible veins so she's got no excuse for making such a mess of my arms!! Then she couldn't get through to the scan department so I have no idea what date my scan is going to be booked for, which I was really excited to find out sad

On the plus side because my first was a 35 weeker I'm apparently getting consultant led care starting with an appointment at 18 weeks to discuss management options because I'm classed at high risk of having another preemie and they might recommend steroid injections to mature baby's lungs, among other things. Pleased that they at least seem to be on top of things, though hopefully we'll manage to reach term this time!

crazycranberry Wed 25-Sep-13 17:21:43

I was told at my booking appointment that I have to be seen by the Obstetrician as I suffer with an auto immune condition. Midwife doesn't know anything about condition. Its very rare in UK. No-one knows if this will cause any problems during pregnancy. This in itself leads me to be anxious (on top of normal mc worries) until I have my 12 week scan. Gotta wait until 10th oct.
DP keeps telling me not to think negatively as this is unhealthy for the baby..........but it's hard - sometimes thoughts just pop into my head!


cookielove Wed 25-Sep-13 17:27:06

lighttripper I kept telling myself it will be ok if there is no hb. Your strong! As soon as she said it I burst into tears and cried pretty much for the rest of the day!

chasing yes we will be having a emrc next Tuesday. I don't want to see any of it.

Trinpy Wed 25-Sep-13 17:41:07

Hi everyone, sorry I disappeared for a while - I've been having a quick read through the thread to catch up on everyones news.

So sad to hear your news cookie. I dont have anything to add to what everyone else has said except that I'm so sorry you had to find out this way.

I have my 12 week scan tomorrow but feeling much calmer now I've seen a healthy baby at 10 weeks. Dh still hasnt told many people because he's paranoid there will be a problem tomorrow, which I can understand since the memory o the mc is still quite fresh, and I think it's shaken his confidence.

I was told yesterday that what I thought was just my stomach getting a bit fat is actually the baby blush . Don't think I will be able to keep this secret from work for much longer!


LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 18:05:36

Oh I know that one crazy. I tried to explain to my OH that telling me not to get stressed because it's bad for the baby is ... Erm... A bit stressful? Bless him, he has taken the hint!

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 18:06:51

Good luck for Tuesday cookie, let us know how you are!

catameringue Wed 25-Sep-13 18:19:33

So sorry cookie, thoughts with you.

I'm not convinced mine is 'viable' - my early scan was so early it just looked like a blob. Other people are excited for me but I'm not as I can't afford to get emotionally invested if it's all for nothing.

I've had my parents over today - my df just sat there whilst dm did 6 hrs of cleaning for me.

Saw my gp and he's written me a note for my employer hinting that I may go off sick if things don't improve. I'm hoping to use it as leverage for them to lighten my workload.

BindiBarbarella Wed 25-Sep-13 18:39:14

cookie so sorry to hear your news sad take care of yourself and give yourself time to grieve xxx

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 19:25:46

Are you still struggling to keep anything down catameringue? Sorry you aren't doing so well. Good that your family have been rallying round! Do you have another scan coming up?

catameringue Wed 25-Sep-13 19:43:00

I can keep lemon tea and wispa bars down.
It's not great.
It's not just keeping it down that's tricky it getting anything in at all. Everything tastes and smells gone off.

I think I have a reasonable pain threshold but my ability to handle nausea and vomming is pathetic.

LeeHandy Wed 25-Sep-13 19:45:26

caz and chasing so if we feel movement only after 17 weeks or so, then I guess I imagined it. It definitely felt like little butterflies on one side of my stomach though.

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 20:05:57

Poor you. I'm also crap at feeling sick (getting slightly better at it but not being tested nearly as much as you). How many weeks are you? I'm just at 10, and the actual vomming is much less though still feel rubbish... Maybe the end us close? I read somewhere hormone levels peak at 8-10 weeks, so am hoping its downhill from here...


LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 20:06:49

Are boiled sweets any good for you? I use them in the evenings to mask the horrible taste in my mouth...

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 20:07:45

Of course, all my teeth will fall out, but that feels like the lesser of two evils. confused

BlessedAssurance Wed 25-Sep-13 20:32:29

Hello everyone. My name is Blessed and my due date is april the 3rd. I was pleased to see this thread. Hoping everyone is doing fine, well as fine as they can be with all the puking that comes with the first trimester..

Chasingclouds Wed 25-Sep-13 20:45:28

Aww I'm sorry crazycranberry that sounds so stressful. Until you get your scan and speak to the consultant I really would try not to worry.

I completely ruined my pregnancy with my daughter, because it was after 2 miscarriages. I spent the entire time beyond anxious and bordering hysterical that something was wrong, that this baby would die too, and literally ALL it did was stress me out, possibly contribute to her being born prematurely, and mean that I really didn't enjoy a minute of it. I promised myself that this pregnancy I would think positively and not do the same thing again and honestly it really works. Just push all the worries out of your mind, and take a deep breath and say to yourself "I believe that everything is ok." Sorry I hope I don't sound like a hippy or something!

lighttripper just go for it with the boiled sweets! My teeth were terrible after last pregnancy from all the stomach acid from throwing up - yuk!!!! So I'd definitely go for the boiled sweets over that (plus we get free dental while pregnant I suppose!)

leehandy it really might have been, apparently you can feel it sooner if you're very slim, and some women are just more sensitive to it. Trust me when I say you will definitely know it's baby when they get big enough, it's one of the best feelings ever!

catameringue can your mum come tidy up for me too? grin

Bodeccia Wed 25-Sep-13 20:51:34

Scan tomorrow for me, I'm sure there is someone else whose is tomorrow too? I'll be glad to see them in there, I hope they're both ok...

Totally am showing, still haven't bought clothes yet, waiting for payday!

Misty9 Wed 25-Sep-13 21:15:10

Hi all
cookie so sorry to hear your news sad hope you have good support around you.

Managed to get scan date moved thankfully and it's next Friday, so only the day after the proposed date. Got enough to stress about with the move and work, without adding to it! More decorating today though wasn't a good day as feeling very dizzy and sick. cata I know what you mean about pain vs nausea - I gave birth to ds via induction with no pain relief but have coped so badly with nausea! Incidentally, I refused gas and air precisely because I hate feeling nauseous!

Does anyone else have to eat very regularly, or else feel awful? Sat in bed munching a flapjack as if I don't eat before sleeping I feel terrible by morning. I've always had blood sugar issues, but this is ridiculous!


Cannotbelieveit Wed 25-Sep-13 22:00:31

Welcome blessed xx

Me and DS are still ill but think it'll pass soon!

Still no scan date thru yet. Will chase on Monday if I've heard nothing

9+4 grin

LightTripper Wed 25-Sep-13 22:35:59

Hello Blessed, welcome to team vom!

dobedobedo Thu 26-Sep-13 07:19:35

Got my dating scan tonight - I'm a nervous wreck! So much for "this time around I'm much more relaxed about being pregnant"! confused

CazInLondon Thu 26-Sep-13 10:23:46

I do feel like I need to eat constantly to keep nausea at bay, Misty9. Yesterday I was out shopping and feeling like I was going to throw up all over a shop front, so rushed to Pret for a sandwich and felt instantly better. And today, right now, despite having had breakfast, I want to eat already! When my stomach's empty it gets kind of painful and the nausea gets worse.

I'm worried if I keep going like that, I'll put on loads of weight and therefore struggle to keep my pregnancy a secret for a few weeks at work. Mind you, maybe putting on weight is a good option, I can just say I've got love handles and a pot belly due to too much chocolate and crisps!



CazInLondon Thu 26-Sep-13 10:24:37

Good luck today, dobedobedo and Bodeccia!

prettyinpink90 Thu 26-Sep-13 10:34:16

Good luck dobe and bodeccia for your scans today!

LightTripper Thu 26-Sep-13 10:37:14

Hey Caz, are you actually putting on weight though? I've been eating constantly for 2 weeks and only put on a couple of pounds (having lost half a stone to start with ... I guess due to giving up the booze and the milky coffees...). I have no idea where it is all going. Maybe eating little and often isn't actually that many more calories, though it definitely feels like it is. Or maybe I am growing a monster giant baby...

Good luck to ladies having their scans today! Mine is tomorrow (I think VikkiJaynes too?), which I'm looking forward to but also nervous about! I'm taking the day as holiday, as I don't suppose I'll get anything useful done in the morning anyway...

ThedementedPenguin Thu 26-Sep-13 14:44:22

I got my letter today for my 20 week anomaly scan for the 20th November. Seems so far away.

bLooming2 Thu 26-Sep-13 15:04:15

scan tomorrow so nervous and exited grin grin hope everyones scaans went ok today xxx

CazInLondon Thu 26-Sep-13 15:36:55

Lots of scans coming up soon, very exciting! Still another 2 weeks before mine.

Yes it's strange LightTripper, but I haven't put on any weight yet either, despite devouring everything in sight. With my first, by the time I was 10 weeks I reckon I'd already put on half a stone! Strange, but hey, I've learned from my previous pregnancy to just trust my body (I put a fair amount of weight on in the first 5 months or so and it made me think I'd end up a whale, but it all evened out eventually and my weight gain was totally within guidelines. So i figure, life's too short to worry about it too much - your body's gonna do what it's gonna do!!).


Trinpy Thu 26-Sep-13 19:05:27

See some others also had their dating scan today smile .

Had mine earlier today, baby has grown so much and it's amazing seeing little fingers and toes. Due date has been moved again to 4/4/14 (easy to remember!) which makes me 12+6 grin .

crazycranberry Thu 26-Sep-13 19:17:06

Congrats trinpy on your scan! Are you further along that you thought or has your due date been pushed back?

I am paranoid and v.anxious and my scan is not until 10th Oct! Eeeek! The wait feels like forever (I know we are all in the same boat!). DP wants me to stop worrying cos it's not healthy angry - I do know this! He has suggested I contact midwife to see if my scan can be brought forward and if not he wants me to have one done privately to stop me from stressing out. I know he is just worried about me and Jellybean but I a can't help the random thoughts that pop into my head.
My nausea was gone today - just like that! and this is also making me fret that something has changed. It's a roller coaster ride that's for sure. Anyone else had this?


BlessedAssurance Thu 26-Sep-13 19:48:22

trinpy congratulations on your scan and your due date is a day after mine. I haven't received a letter for the scan yet so am hoping it will show up sooner or later.

Concerning nausea, mine is not as bad as it was with DC1. Maybe that's because i am eating at every turn.

Congrats to all who had their scans today. Very interesting stuff..

BlessedAssurance Thu 26-Sep-13 19:49:59

crazy if i may echo your DP's words, stop worrying, it shall be well. Easier said than done though isn't it?

ChocChaffinch Thu 26-Sep-13 20:03:21

Hi Blessed, byt he way! congratulations on your bfp

crazy - others down the thread said symptoms come and go; sadly my nausea is like an unstoppable express train

I don't want to see any of my friends because Im such a miserable bastard !!

Trinpy Thu 26-Sep-13 20:08:20

Thanks smile . My due date is sooner than I thought (8th April) but later than my mw thought (25th march) - so we were both wrong!

crazy sickness comes and goes. I have days when I feel great and others when I can't keep anything down. It is very unusual to get as far as the 12 week scan to find the baby has died when there has been no bleeding. As we sadly read yesterday, it can happen, but chances are everything is fine smile

BlessedAssurance Thu 26-Sep-13 20:16:38

thank you choc love the name because it is very close to choc chip cookiesgrin. Food is all i think about now.

I think i have become a bit stupid with this pregnancy. When the doc asked me when last i had had my period, i could not remember. How could i not remember? I gave him three dates, and needed DH to confirm the right oneblush

BlessedAssurance Thu 26-Sep-13 20:20:24

i must bid you all a good night. Early and busy day tomorrow for me. All the best with the vom, ahh the good times[times]. Sometimes i am just so surprised at how much women have to go through when pregnant, then when they give birth.. All that for our little darling..Thank God it is all worth the pain and the nausea and everything that goes or comes with it..

See you later ladies..

BlessedAssurance Thu 26-Sep-13 20:21:11

meant to put a smile on the good timesgrin

Bodeccia Thu 26-Sep-13 21:01:39

My scan was a waste of time today, I'm too early at 10+4 so I have to go back in two weeks. Nice to see the little bubas though, they're still there smile

dobedobedo Thu 26-Sep-13 21:04:47

I had my dating scan and my dates were totally wrong. I'm only 7+4! Due date isn't until 11th May. So I'm kinda relieved that I haven't subjected my baby to too many drunken nights out, but also I still have so much first trimester left! Suppose I'll mosey on over to the May thread... smile xxx

LightTripper Thu 26-Sep-13 22:55:59

Oh no, dobedo, we'll miss you! You have to promise not to have more fun on the May thread than here... smile

Speaking of fun, having not vommed since Saturday, just had a lovely bedtime super vom. Lucky I have been carrying my washing up bowl everywhere I go like a favourite teddy, as I had hardly any warning. Fun fun fun... Ugh. Roll on week 12 (or whatever week the blooming starts!)

Have just been reading apparently if you get travel sick it is much more likely you get morning sickness, and I was a very travel-sicky child, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that this bit is not fun.

Anyway, scan tomorrow. Hoping I manage to keep it together for the travel and the sonographer! Early days, but they should at least be able to say if something is there and in the right place I hope. Fingers crossed for all tomorrow's other scanees xx


Vikkijayne2507 Fri 27-Sep-13 08:50:22

I have my scan today and last night me and oh couldnt find the hb on the doppler took ages and a very full bladder but oh found it and I could tell as he started grinning and I heard it as well. I was relieved so relieved I decided the throw up with no warning whilst washing my face in the sick sorry for tmi. I also was physically sick this morning. Im starting to think maybe I have my dates wrong and im not 12 + 4 wks as my nausea has stopped and im not as tired as I was but actual sickness has increased. grrr. Im still really nervous about my scan want to get it done and know outcome asap gunna be a long morning. Heres to sticky thoughts for me at 2pm and everyone else.

12+4 wks

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 09:26:48

Sending sticky thoughts Vikki! May neither of us throw up on our sonographer ....

Chasingclouds Fri 27-Sep-13 14:59:09

My scan is booked for 16th october, but I will be 13w 4d and I'm totally freaking out because they can only do the NT test for Down's syndrome before 13w 6d so if my dates are slightly out I'm screwed, and I do often ovulate early sad so upset!!! I don't know what to do.

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 17:05:59

I'm sure it will be fine chasing, but is it worth phoning them up and seeing if you can do better? Maybe they'll have a cancellation if you can go at short notice?

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 17:28:23

My scan was good. Only one in there, and all looks good and in the right place! Really looked more like a baby than I expected, and amazing to see him or her moving about, hadn't realised how much difference it would make to see them actually jigging around rather than just a snapshot. Went for Panorama test in the end (very like Harmony) and should get the results in a couple of weeks (hopefully around the same time as my 12 week scan).

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 27-Sep-13 18:24:31

hi all scan was good just the 1 bouncing around saw arms legs nose very surreal but now excited 2 days back but I knew that as I knew my ov date was later than 14 days. so am now due 9th April am 12 weeks 2 days

Chasingclouds Fri 27-Sep-13 18:26:11

Awww so glad your scan went well light, I must admit I haven't heard of panorama before, is it something available on the NHS or are you paying privately?

I have high FSH levels so it's a miracle I conceived naturally at all, but on top of that there is a very increased chance of miscarriage and chromosome disorders which has me steadily more freaked out as the days go by!

Thanks for the idea about asking if they get a cancellation, I will phone on Monday.

Chasingclouds Fri 27-Sep-13 18:28:53

Oops sorry we posted at the same time, really glad yours went well too vikki!

Aargh mine is just forever away!!

crazycranberry Fri 27-Sep-13 18:36:15

Glad your scan wen t well.........What's a Panorama test LightT?
Is this something to do with Downs?

Shame you are heading off to the may thread dobedobedo been lovely seeing your posts smile

I had a day at home today watching rubbishy day time TV but to be honest I was quite chilled so probably did me some good (if they ever introduce 'worrying' as an Olympic event I would win Gold!) wink

Latest health/body development is that I have 3 large mouth ulcers (symptom of auto immune condition I suffer from) & my top lip so swollen that eating & drinking is painful. Can't use my usual numbing spray whilst pregnant -Doh! How annoying! Wonder if they have appeared cos I'm being a stress head? Either way, the ulcers top trump the nausea (what an odd thing to be pleased about!).

BindiBarbarella Fri 27-Sep-13 18:37:25

Crazy I am glad you brought up lack of symptoms as I am the same today...I'm 10+5 and have had bad nausea/sensitivity to smells/going off foods etc for about 5 weeks then I woke up this morning and...nothing?! I was also freaked out and was googling like mad. I have found a lot of positive answers essentially saying what all of the ladies on here have said, that symptoms come and go and it's completely normal. Seen as we are around the same stage let's look at it as a positive and try not to worry! My scan is 11th Oct so 2 weeks to go! Good luck and sending you positive vibes smile xxx

crazycranberry Fri 27-Sep-13 18:38:12

Oops posted at the same time - really glad your scan went well too vikki!

crazycranberry Fri 27-Sep-13 18:41:00

Thanks Bindi appreciate the vibes. (Actually thanks to all you lovely ladies for any reassuring etc).
My scan is 10th Oct. can't come soon enough smile


wendle70 Fri 27-Sep-13 19:25:22

Hello everyone I think I'm in the right place although all you ladies seem to be a little ahead of me...I'm 10 weeks exactly today (due 26 April). I wish I'd found this thread earlier..it has made me laugh out loud. Glad I am not the only one feeling like this. I have put on 6 pounds at least (though weirdly bump is MUCH bigger in evening than first thing in morning..must be gas eek). Had to buy jeans one size bigger and now a week later even they don't fit me!! Need new tights as a matter of emergency.

I don't think a vegetable has managed to pass my lips for weeks as all I can eat are carbs and sweets (poor little bean..it can't be good). I feel sick as a dog (just started puking in the evening and some mornings too). Tried travel bands and nevasic app but neither made much difference. Skin has also gone terrible (it's the terrible diet no doubt).

So sick of my own moaning let alone what my other half must think. Can't subject too many friends to it! Have told far too many people already as have a ginormous mouth and now regretting it in case something awful has happened. But I figured I'd want them to support me if it did. Will hold off telling work until 12 week scan over although somehow the CEO wangled it out of me last week when we met for the first time. He is sworn to secrecy. Hmmn. Oh and it's a new job! I found out the day before I started...oh dear!

12 week scan feels like ages away on 14th Oct but I have decided to opt for Harmony test privately as am 36 and weirdly it is £180 cheaper if you also have an early scan (due next Thurs) and a nuchal 2 weeks later. I had 2 early NHS scans because I had some period pains at 5 weeks but all was fine - last one they saw the heartbeat at 7 weeks. Now v nervous about the scans as realising I might not have realised if something has gone wrong. Might get DH to come along. Actually should he be DB as we are not married...?

That is prob way too much information sorry! Wishing you lots of luck with the scans and such like. Ohhh I am so looking forward to not feeling sick. When I get the odd 10 mins of feeling normal it feels so nice!

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 19:31:47

Re loss of symptoms, I read that it is supposed to get better as the placenta gets bigger and takes over. Saw my placenta today and looking quite big at 10+3, so that is making me all hopeful I might be joining the symptom free soon!

Panorama is basically a Downs test, yes. Done on a blood sample like Harmony. I just know my odds at 12 weeks won't be great because of my age, so wanted something more clear to guide me whether to risk amnio or not! Hopefully I'll have the results by about then. Only private at the moment sadly, as it's still really new, though I know people are talking about one of these blood tests being on the NHS in a couple of years, fingers crossed. There are various threads about Harmony on the Antenatal tests page.

bundaberg Fri 27-Sep-13 19:41:22

Hi all! Can I join you?
I'm due on the 25th April 2014 with my 4th baby.

My youngest has just started school so enjoying being able to rest a bit in the day now.

Anyone else gone totally brain dead tho? I'm forgetting everything! So far this week I've forgotten a school meeting, 2 after school clubs, a dentist appt, two diff arrangements to pick stuff up off Facebook and a meeting with a friend!!!

wendle70 Fri 27-Sep-13 19:58:06

By the way if any of you are suffering with morning sickness still, I recommend the thread where's the weirdest place you've thrown up in with morning sickness! It was an editor's pick. It made me laugh out loud...places include a child's pumpkin full of sweets at Halloween, the wine aisle at waitrose, the hoody of a man in a wheelchair in front on the bus (!) and puking and then fainting into a bin in front of a drama class. Genius. I have been feeling sorry for myself puking in my bathroom - no more!

wendle70 Fri 27-Sep-13 20:02:46

Hi Bundaberg...My brain has gone a little bit foggy but I think it's because I cannot think about anything but how sick I feel. As opposed to true memory loss. You can imagine how much fun I am in the evenings when my other half comes home. Him: How was your day? Me: Ok. I feel sick. How was yours? Oh hang on don't tell me..oooh I feel sick. Did I tell you I feel sick? Thank god he's so understanding..

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 20:12:35

Hello Wendle! Welcome to the thread. I am sorry you're feeling crap, but in a way relieved to hear I'm not the only one feeling guilty for being rubbish and moany! Can't wait to get back to normal. Having a weekend in Suffolk this weekend, so hoping the sea air does me some good!

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 20:18:03

Bundaberg... Yes!! Brain very foggy. Just about ok in the morning. Totally useless after 5pm.

BeansAndCheese Fri 27-Sep-13 20:20:41

Hi all. I thought would join in here as I am expecting dc2. Had my scan on Tuesday. There was one happy little critter bouncing away on my enormous bladder. I already have a 21 mo dd. Haven't suffered too much with nausea etc(sorry). Feelin g pretty lucky so far. good luck everyone with up coming scans.

13+0 weeks

wendle70 Fri 27-Sep-13 20:25:18

Ah enjoy Suffolk air Lighttripper...I am thinking of a trip there next weekend but worried it will be a waste if I am too sick and moany! Maybe another 7 days and it will start to recede...my other half was kindly talking plans for pampering weekend and then I realised massage was out, as was sauna, hot tub...so think some nice country Suffolk air might do the trick instead if I can survive the car trip (cars bring on sickness big time)!

bundaberg Fri 27-Sep-13 20:46:26

haha glad it isn't just me! i swear I was fine until I had number 3, then I started to seriously lose brain cells. This one has just pushed me over the edge hmm

Have got my first midwife appt on Monday because I kept forgetting to phone them (d'oh)... so prob going to have a frantic couple of weeks organising booking appt and 12 week scan. oops.

had an early scan at 7 weeks due to bleeding which is still ongoing, on and off. not much fun, but there was a healthy baby there so fingers crossed there still will be in a couple of weeks!

Hope the sickness eases off for those of you suffering badly from it. This is my least sicky pg so far. I'm feeling nauseous most of the day but not actually properly sick, just feel blah!
craving roast potatoes with gravy and mint sauce constantly :-/

learnasyougo Fri 27-Sep-13 20:56:18

Bundaberg, can I ask, what's the origin of your MN name? I ask because I use the name bunda on another site and wonder if it's from the same linguistic origin.

LightTripper Fri 27-Sep-13 21:01:38

I know, bit worried about the car! But bus to the scan was fine this afternoon, and we're heading off first thing. Usually mornings are my best time so fingers crossed we'll make it! Will let you know how the sea air goes.

bundaberg Fri 27-Sep-13 21:01:51

i was drinking bundaberg root beer at the time blush

Cannotbelieveit Fri 27-Sep-13 21:18:35

Welcome bunda and Wendle!

We have a (secret) fb group too if either of you want to join x
Pm me if you do!

I'm 9+6 today (due April 26th).

This will be dc2 (DS is just turning 6 months!)


Cannotbelieveit Fri 27-Sep-13 21:20:04

Welcome to beans as well!! grin

learnasyougo Fri 27-Sep-13 21:27:16

Root beer? Haha, then no. In the language I was thinking of, bunda is the soft way of saying 'mother', you see.

LightTripper Sat 28-Sep-13 07:17:14

P.S. Wendle, re veggies, I also can't manage much at the moment, am mainly living on porridge, toast and boiled potatoes, but have managed sweet stuff like sweetcorn and mange tout... Worth a try? Though apparently the baby should take what they need anyway, as long as you're getting folic from a supplement. Also banana seems fine. Grapes are good at the time, but I think make me more likely to throw up if I have too many...

BeansAndCheese Sat 28-Sep-13 08:33:30

Anyone based in the northwest, Wirral cheshire and greater Manchester area and going with one to one. I am booked with them and had great service so far. Wondering what other peoples experiences are.

Chasingclouds Sat 28-Sep-13 09:42:07

What's one to one beans? I am in the north west, nearish warrington.

Trinpy Sat 28-Sep-13 10:25:48

hello and congratulations to wendle, bunder and beans.

Really pleased to hear the scans went well yesterday. It really is so different seeing the baby wriggling around than just seeing a picture. Made me well up both times!

I'm having a lazy day today and staying indoors where it's warm and dry smile .


Trinpy Sat 28-Sep-13 10:27:19

Sorry that should have been bunda - my brains going a bit foggy too...

prettyinpink90 Sat 28-Sep-13 10:44:00

Hello fellow NW ladies beans and chasing, I'm in Preston smile

BeansAndCheese Sat 28-Sep-13 10:49:32

Its a private midwife service that's been employed by the NHS to take the strain off the NHS maternity services. I might be available in Warrington. It started as only Birkenhead but has expanded a lot. You get your own personal midwife to look after your case. They do all your appointments at home (helpful when you have to take your disruptive adorable toddler with you). I mainly went for because they facilitate home births which I would really like this time. You feel a bit like you are on a conveyor belt in hospital.

BeansAndCheese Sat 28-Sep-13 10:55:08

www.onetoonemidwives.org if anyone is interested

Chasingclouds Sat 28-Sep-13 11:58:52

Thanks so much for that beans , I hated it last pregnancy because I never had the same midwife twice and I definitely agree with the conveyor belt analogy, they can't wait to rush you out. I would love a home birth too but my first came at 35wks so I think I'm classed as being at risk of another premature birth (though I had a fast labour so if it's much faster second time round I might not even make it to hospital!) I will look into it later when my own little disruption is asleep!

Hiya prettyinpink90 it's a small world isn't it, you're only down the road really!

BeansAndCheese Sat 28-Sep-13 12:45:21

If they are available in your area they might be more inclined to go with the flow, but I don't know what their guidelines are. I think a traditional independent midwife would probably just explain the risks, but leave the decisions to the mum.

I have been given more clarity from my current midwife about issues arriving from my dd birth. I had a SROM and was induced after 24 hours. Apparently the is hospital guidelines. NICE guidelines say 4 days with daily monitoring. I would have much preferred to be at home for as long as possible, rather than strapped to a monitor in hospital.

daftgeranium Sat 28-Sep-13 12:52:46

I have scan on Thursday at bang on 12 weeks, anyone else? smile

catameringue Sat 28-Sep-13 15:25:03

So many people have had scans and I've only just had my booking appointment!

She noted my pcos and said I needed an additional blood test later, but otherwise bmi ok at 27.

I ate 12 slices of garlic bread yesterday. Is that weird??

Felt a bit miserable this week as boobs have grown into udders, tummy expanding

ChocChaffinch Sat 28-Sep-13 19:34:15

my boobs are sore my belly button is now like a coat peg... eating far too much crap... ah phooey

nevergoogle Sat 28-Sep-13 20:16:32

first trimester done on monday.
had massive surge in hormones at 10 weeks making me horribly nauseated and tired, and hair and skin went greasy.
settling a bit now although grazing constantly and unable to eat proper meals.
no weight gain for the first trimester although feeling bloated.
booking appointments all done and scan due on monday.
fingers crossed for good news.


Misty9 Sat 28-Sep-13 20:29:41

Hi all
Feeling crappily nauseous again today sad just fed up of it tbh. Had a worrisome moment earlier when couldn't find the hb, but dh managed it after I'd been trying for ages and we heard it beating away and moving too smile so it's out on Facebook.

Scan is next Friday and I can't wait for the first trimester to be over a week today! Right, I'm off to get my evening porridge before heartburn takes hold.


ChocChaffinch Sat 28-Sep-13 20:34:29

Im about 13 1/2 wks and feeling extra sick from 4pm. loads of saliva. hyperemesis controlled by the drugs im on, but feel shite for 95% of the day. roll on Easter next year.

TedandFred Sat 28-Sep-13 20:45:44

New to this thread and to mumsnet in general...have heard great things tho. smile
Baby #3 due end of April-ish...still awating scan. Hoping everything is ok.
Feel like crap! Running around after a DS aged 3 and DS aged 18 months.
Brave or crazy...we will see but definately excited and in love already. Nice to read others are feeling the same, tho would not wish the yucky/exhausted mess that is me, on anyone right now.
Hope everyone gets a good night sleep tonight. Finding it hard to sleep from 3am already...anyone else find the same??

nevergoogle Sat 28-Sep-13 21:00:12

hey ted, and welcome.
I'm awake for a while every night too.
Number 3 on the way too, but have been very used to full nights sleep for a long time as my other two are 9 and 6.
Going to be a shock to the system.

ChocChaffinch Sat 28-Sep-13 21:04:04

no 3 here too...and my 2 are 7 and 5!! going from easy life to vvv challenging life............

TedandFred Sat 28-Sep-13 21:12:22

Yeah I have heard its tough going from one extreme to the other. My thoughts were more like quick get #3 in or ill get to comfy and not want to ever go back to babyhood!!
Wanted 3 bad too so that helped. smile
By my dates I'm around 10+3, how about you ChocChaffinch and nevergoogle?

ChocChaffinch Sat 28-Sep-13 21:14:02

err Im 13+4 due april 1st but will be having a elcs so endish march

nevergoogle Sat 28-Sep-13 21:48:13

11+5 but likely c-section a week earlier too. depends on whether consultant will let me try for normal delivery.

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 28-Sep-13 21:52:44

I'm struggling to sleep after 3am needing wees I'm feeling a bit less tired but still wanting a nap midday like today went for a walk in the sunshine I was shattered after an hour walking not like me

Cannotbelieveit Sun 29-Sep-13 00:42:22

Welcome Ted! Xx

Dc2 here! DS is just 6 months old.

I'm 10 weeks so dc2 due April 26th grin

BartBaby Sun 29-Sep-13 08:09:06

Hello ladies smile

I've missed so much while I was away!! I've been lurking occasionally but don't think I will be able to read through all 11 pages of the new thread blush but I will try to be better at this from now on....

Welcome to all the newbies. There's so many of us here now smile and well done to all the lovely ladies that have had their scans! I've got mine tomorrow and just can't wait.

My sickness all but went away while on holiday, but is back now I'm home. Obviously my body just prefers being on holiday! grin I'm 12+5 now though so hopefully the end is in sight. I have managed to find baby's heartbeat on my doppler thing though so that is very reassuring. It's been much easier the last couple of times. Can't wait to see baby Bart tomorrow.

I really love the idea of the one on one midwifes. But I'm in the north east so doubt they are in my area. I didnt like my midwife last time. Don't even remember the midwife in the hospital! And am not keen on my one this time. Although she is an improvement on the last one so its a step in the right direction!

BeansAndCheese Sun 29-Sep-13 08:27:55

I feel like I'm coming to the end of a really tired and arsey phase. Been a bit of a cow recently although I'm not admitting that to dh. My dd seems to be snapping out of an awkward toddler phase too

BeansAndCheese Sun 29-Sep-13 08:36:05

Yes bart they are spreading east, but I dont thank they have gone much past greater Manchester yet. Loads of independent midwives are joining the company because of the legislation that will mean they cant facilitate home birth any more.

catameringue Sun 29-Sep-13 08:59:06

Choc - I'm also worse from 4pm onwards, sickness wise.

I haven't been eating enough, though since Friday the sickness has reduced enough for my appetite to return, and I haven't stopped eating.

Dh has taken to calling me 'queen' due to my demands.

Nessalina Sun 29-Sep-13 10:52:38

Hey there ladies smile I've had a miserable few weeks of feeling very sick indeed, although only chucking up once a day usually. Been a bit of a ghost, mainly going to work then flomping in the evening. Not even been on MN much!! Not wanted to see a lot of my friends because I was very vocal about us trying so they're bound to ask, and now we're so close to scan I really just want to make sure all is good before telling anyone else!
Scan booked for 11th Oct so counting down the minutes. Having the NT at same time so all a bit nerve wracking. Can't wait to stop feeling so sick and tired and begin GLOWING!!
10 + 4 smile

PrincessKitKat Sun 29-Sep-13 12:13:51

Hi All
New to the thread - I didn't want to join until I'd had my scan. But all is well & my wiggly bean was body-popping away!
Dated at 12+6 today (DD 7 April) and feeling so much better than I have been but I'm now prone to outbursts of OTT rage and OTT crying. DH can't deal with his normally fairly calm and rational wife turning into a crazed Babyzilla smile
It's my first. I'm very emotional!!

Cannotbelieveit Sun 29-Sep-13 15:15:13

Welcome princess! This thread is getting loads more members now! Xx

BeansAndCheese Sun 29-Sep-13 15:33:13

Hi princess I cried the other because I had to cook dinner and I was tired! Wtf?

mamapants Sun 29-Sep-13 17:32:56

Ha ha I remember the random crying from first pregnancy. I cried while driving home from work because I didn't know what to have for dinner!
Not really had any this time, but pregnancy very different this time so far.
Got midwife appt on tues. Blood tests and maybe listen for heartbeat.
Still not had letter with scan date so will have to ask about that. Getting impatient now!
I am not sleeping well but that is because DS is an awful sleeper.
Am starting to gain weight now, looking more solid round the middle still fitting in my clothes though.
DS finally seems to be eating more food and feeding less in the daytime which is a bit of a relief, was picturing having to feed round the clock when no. 2 arrives.

LightTripper Sun 29-Sep-13 17:57:08

Hello and welcome new peeps!!

I will probably regret saying this but the horrible taste in my mouth has really faded quite a bit, and there were a good couple of hours this afternoon when I really didn't feel sick at all... shock

So either I'm allergic to London, and must go back to the seaside immediately, or just maybe maybe it is starting to lift. Now it's evening I am starting to feel a bit rubbish again and my stomach is making UNBELIEVABLE noises. blush But it was so lovely to just have a little bit of normal back... After more than a month of non stop queasy I had almost forgotten what that was like! grin

wendle70 Sun 29-Sep-13 18:20:45

Hello all! Ha me too I was in the countryside this weekend and was worried about car journey/ how to hide morning sickness from bf's 2 girls and his mum...but was fine! Not sick! Clearly I am also allergic to London...

Of course now I'm a little worried I feel better (crazy lady). Got early 10 week scan on Thurs anyway ..thinking of all you ladies having scans this week.

Still laughing about weird places to throw up thread!

Have a good week all smile

bundaberg Sun 29-Sep-13 21:24:38

do we have a list of names and due dates etc? if not can we make one??


i am getting excited already even though i'm only 10 weeks lol. although also feeling worried about my 12 week scan just in case something is wrong :-/

anyway, if there isn't already a list i'll start with me:

bundaberg 25/4/14 sex unknown

bundaberg Sun 29-Sep-13 21:25:23

ooh and are people going to find out the sex?

i didn't with my other 3, but kind of wonder what it would be like, so tempted to do so for this one! can't decide

LightTripper Sun 29-Sep-13 21:47:35

We are going to find out! Hate calling him/her "it", but "the baby" is a bit long winded. Should find out together with the Downs result in a couple of weeks.

LightTripper Sun 29-Sep-13 21:49:11

Oh, and here is the stats thread!


bundaberg Sun 29-Sep-13 22:12:20

Have updated the stats thread smile

3 of us for the 25th now!

have your previous ones been early/late/on time?

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 29-Sep-13 22:14:17

We are going to find out the sex, hopefully all will be well at the 20 week scan as its oh birthday 2 days after the scan so thats his present sorted hehe.

BeansAndCheese Mon 30-Sep-13 06:54:13

I definitely want to know the sex. Last time little monster was curled in a ball and no amount of belly poking and jiggling could get her to show us her bits! Had to wait until she was born. It was a lovely surprise though. This time I am not at all bothered boy or girl, just want to know what colour to paint the room! grin

bundaberg Mon 30-Sep-13 11:14:37

i'm really undecided. As I say, last 3 times we didn't find out, but by the end with DS3 I was just desperate to know!!!
I am worried that if it's another boy I'll feel disappointed though. obv we didn't try for another baby just in the hope it'd be a girl but I'm just worried I will anyway! whereas when you actually give birth you're just so excited to get your baby it doesn't matter what sex it is.

decisions decisions!

patsy375 Mon 30-Sep-13 13:47:55

Hey ladies. Hope everyone is ok.
Been lurking for the last few weeks as nothing new to report.
Wanted to say Hi to Bunda.
Im in exactly the same position as you! I have 3 beautiful boys and I'm expecting number 4.
Ive decided I'm going to find out the sex this time as like you I know I will be a bit disappointed if it's another boy.
Having time to accept it, name him and buy him some bits means his birthday will be a totally happy occasion as it was with all his brothers. smile

crazycranberry Mon 30-Sep-13 15:51:30

Hi everyone.
Sadly my earlier fears posted in this thread have come to fruition.
Had scan today for reassurance ( was 11weeks today) and unfortunately no heartbeat. They have classed it as MMC as I had no traditional physical symptoms (bleeding/cramps etc). In my mind just felt something was not right. Jellybean measured just under 10weeks.

It's been great being on this thread but I will say bye bye and wish you all good luck in your journey xx

LightTripper Mon 30-Sep-13 17:01:22

I'm so sorry crazy, such sad news. thanks

mamapants Mon 30-Sep-13 17:31:41

Sorry to hear that cranberry

Cannotbelieveit Mon 30-Sep-13 17:40:27

So so sorry to hear that cranberry. Please take care of yourself xxx

bundaberg Mon 30-Sep-13 18:01:13

oh crazycranbery, i'm so very very sorry sad

LeeHandy Mon 30-Sep-13 18:27:49

I'm so sorry for your loss crazy flowers

BartBaby Mon 30-Sep-13 18:49:22

So sorry to hear that crazy I hope you are doing ok flowers

I've been moved forward a day at my scan today. Just one baby bart and new due date of 7th April. Which is what I thought it would be based on ovulation rather than lmp.

cookielove Mon 30-Sep-13 19:52:02

Crazy - so sad to hear your news. My baby died at 8+6 and had my op to remove it today. Please please pm if you nees someone to talk to. I am always here!

Fx for everyone else having sticky sticky beans!

ChocChaffinch Mon 30-Sep-13 20:00:53

sorry to hear that cranberry. thanks MMC are horrible, so shocking. Sending you love XX

ChocChaffinch Mon 30-Sep-13 20:02:33

Hey cookie hope you're OK after op; feel better soon XX

crazycranberry Mon 30-Sep-13 20:09:48

Thanks ladies x

Hope your Op went well cookie. I have mine booked in for 7am Thursday. Scared but felt it was a better option than letting nature take its course. Thanks for the offer - I might take you up on pm. Be good to chat with someone in same boat (even if its a sad boat)

Had to tell my 10yr old DS today and he was gutted about not having a bro or sis. One of the hardest things about all this. Bless him - he did ask if we would try to get pregnant again which was sweet!

Hope everyone else has positive scan results. I will probably come back to this thread over the coming months to see how you're all getting along.

Take it easy everyone

LightTripper Mon 30-Sep-13 20:36:28

Would be lovely to see how you're doing crazycranberry!

Glad your op was ok cookie, thanks for letting us know. I had it in my head that it was tomorrow, so glad you had a bit less time to wait! Will be thinking of you on Thursday crazy xx

nevergoogle Mon 30-Sep-13 20:49:59

so sorry to hear this crazycranberry.

my scan was today too. thankfully all is well.

Trinpy Mon 30-Sep-13 21:04:34

so sorry to hear your news cranberry. Hope you do pop back to say hello now and again, it would be nice to hear how you're getting on.

Lovely to hear that others have had successful scans though.

cookielove Mon 30-Sep-13 22:20:28

Light it was meant to be tomorrow but they called me this morning and moved it to this afternoon!

ThedementedPenguin Mon 30-Sep-13 22:53:51

cranberry sorry to hear that. Must of been hard telling your ds.

Can someone do a clickable link to stats thread as I'm on my phone and can't find it.

I've been feeling very sick past few days it's awful. Went grocery shopping today and as I walked around I got sicker and sicker. Not good.

Got my flu jab booked for 19th Oct, dreading it.

LightTripper Tue 01-Oct-13 08:16:17

Glad they brought it forward cookie, waiting is not nice. Xx

Penguin, haven't done a link before, but see if this works!

Stats Thread

LightTripper Tue 01-Oct-13 18:05:07

Back to vom today after a couple of better ones sigh

Everybody at work now seems to know, which is a bit weird given I've not told anybody in real life yet ... But given I've been working from home so much and my boss is not famed for discretion not all that surprising. One good outcome was I had a lovely chat with a colleague with two kids who sounds like she had exactly the same sickness as me, and she cheered me up by saying (a) hers improved completely at 12 weeks, and (b) she found it by far the worst bit of pregnancy, much worse than even right at the end, so she reckons it should be downhill from here ( or from soon)!

So, hanging on in there...


mamapants Tue 01-Oct-13 21:29:06

Had a midwife appt today. Was a bit of a non event really. DS who is normally completely happy and cheery all the time was very upset by the whole thing and crying even with the big box of toys the midwife brought for him to play with.
She didn't manage to get any blood so have to go into hospital tomorrow to try again, have very fine veins and low blood pressure so hopefully they'll manage tomorrow.
No luck getting heartbeat which even though isn't something to worry about am worrying all the same.
Still haven't had scan date! So she's going to chase that up.

Trinpy Tue 01-Oct-13 23:46:48

Light I hope this really is the hardest part of the pregnancy - for all of us! It's amazing how something so small can affect your body so much! Glad your colleagues are being supportive. I chickened out of telling my boss after the 12 week scan and now she's off work for 3 weeks, so I'll be at least 16 weeks before work know.

mama how many weeks are you? A lot of midwives won't even listen for the heartbeat before 16 weeks because it's so hard to find early on, it just makes people worry. Hopefully you'll get your scan arranged soon and actually see the heart beating smile .

Nessalina Wed 02-Oct-13 07:26:25

After feeling hugely sick over the last few weeks I seem to have got my appetite back in spectacular fashion - absolutely ravenous! Woke up at 6am with tummy rumbling hmm
In other news I'm still not peeing any more than I usually would which is a bit of a worry - anyone else not noticed more urge to wee?!

LightTripper Wed 02-Oct-13 07:50:04

Hi Nessalina. I don't think I am either. I did a bit right at the start, after my positive test, but not so much since being sick. My tum has been very loose too, so suspect I am losing some fluids that way.

BeansAndCheese Wed 02-Oct-13 08:34:32

nessalina the uterus starts to lift up as you get towards 12 weeks, so the urge to pee more gets better. It will be back with a vengeance towards the end. Actually with my DD I was peeing all the time. But this time I've not been so bad. Probably means I'm not drinking enough

BeansAndCheese Wed 02-Oct-13 08:36:33

Also if you've been really sick you're probably just slightly dehydrated.

mamapants Wed 02-Oct-13 11:22:21

Hi trinpy am at most 12 weeks and know its nothing to worry about, and she didn't try for long as DS was getting upset. Heard DS hb at 11weeks which was lovely and its so nice and reassuring.
Would be nice to have a scan date to look forward to! Instead just get to go to hospital for them to try and get blood samples.

catameringue Wed 02-Oct-13 13:14:53

Hi all,

Had an early scan today.
The little bean was there flinging it's arms and legs about. Hb was normal.
Sadly, though it's officially 4 days too early for NT scan, they measured 3.1mm of fluid.

Dh and I are of the opinion that unless there is a major medical problem then we carry on. But now we are left feeling sad and worried. I wish they hadn't told me.

Cannotbelieveit Wed 02-Oct-13 14:17:09

Under 3.5mm is classed as fine cat xx

LightTripper Wed 02-Oct-13 18:02:55

Plus I think at this stage it can still go down, no? How long do you have to wait for your 12 week scan? I know it's worrying though xx

LightTripper Wed 02-Oct-13 18:06:30

This is the story I was thinking of. This lady's was higher than yours, but then went down, and then cvs came through clear too...


BindiBarbarella Wed 02-Oct-13 18:09:53

Crazy So very sorry to hear your news sad Take care of yourself. Thinking of you sad sad xxx

catameringue Wed 02-Oct-13 20:37:17

Thanks for the link to that thread.
The Internet hasn't been helpful in telling me whether it goes up or down.

I'm 10+6 and I have to phone for a scan from 11w.

LightTripper Wed 02-Oct-13 21:01:43

Fingers crossed you don't have a long wait!

ChocChaffinch Thu 03-Oct-13 09:24:31

will we be summoned for a flu shot or do we need to request?

ThedementedPenguin Thu 03-Oct-13 10:13:10

choc it depends on your clinic. I've already received my fly jab appointment. However I know some people had to ring up and book theres.

ChocChaffinch Thu 03-Oct-13 10:14:53

I'll ask today when I pop in for my repeat

PeartreePeanut1 Thu 03-Oct-13 11:48:17

Hi Everyone!!! I have been everyone's posts...... congrats to you all.

This is my first pregnancy and it has come with a few difficulties already but it is worth it. Not sure it has sunk in yet tbh. I had kinda written it off after trying for two and half yrs with nothing....... but my peanut is there making me glouriously sick and uncomfortable lol.

Had my booking appointment yesterday and was a bit put off by the midwife's offhand attitude towards the fact that they have me on Clexane injections twice a day and no-one has been monitiring my blood levels. Has anyone else found the midwife/s to be this way? She then gave me all my paperwork loose and sent me on my merry way.

Apologies for my long essay!! my first scan is next friday which will make me 12+2 by then.

Cannotbelieveit Thu 03-Oct-13 13:04:26

Welcome pear tree!

Congrats on your pregnancy first of all!

So far my midwives have been hit and miss tho the one at booking in was lovely as we'd met at a bf class and in hospital in march when DS was born.

Got my letter thru for consultant this morning 11th November 9am!!! Will be hard to get there with giving DS breakfast and bottle at 8am! Will have to make hubby take me and ask for all other appt to be afternoon x

10+5 grin

prettyinpink90 Thu 03-Oct-13 13:13:08

Welcome and congrats peartree smile

ChocChaffinch Thu 03-Oct-13 13:30:35

congratulations peartree my MW is like a cross old school marm
I'm a bit scared of her, she's very serious. I like my healthcare providers to be a bit silly. My consultant seems a bit silly, which is great.

CazInLondon Thu 03-Oct-13 13:32:38

Welcome Peartree and congrats, you really deserve it after all this time!

Similarly to Cannot, my experience with midwives (from my previous pregnancy) have been mixed. Some are an absolute delight and will spend ages talking and reassuring you, others are like chain workers in a factory. Never be afraid to put your foot down if there is something you're not happy with, at the end of the day it's your body and your baby!

After a couple of days of feeling amazing and like my old self again, I'm back to being nauseous and crappy. I wish I could just crawl up in bed and hide under the duvet for the rest of the day...

Any ladies out there out of the first trimester nastiness yet? I'm trying to remember how wonderful it was to feel normal again but right now I need reminding, can't see the light at the end of the tunnel!

Though when I think about it, it's amazing how I'd forgotten about the 1st trimester fatigue etc. Nature is very clever. I mean, labour - if my memory serves me right, it just stung a little bit, right?! :D



LightTripper Thu 03-Oct-13 16:25:07

Welcome peartree!
My booking in isn't for 10 days, so haven't even met a midwife yet. I'm hoping for the best but expecting grumpy!

Caz, I'm 11+1 and in the same boat as you. Had a good 24 hours at the weekend but now back to full on nausea and vomminess. I think mornings may be getting slightly better, but evenings even worse. I am really hoping it all just goes at 12 weeks on schedule and I'm not one go the unlucky ones! Maybe I'm just allergic to work?

wendle70 Thu 03-Oct-13 18:22:20

Crazycranberry so sorry to hear that. Thoughts are with you i cant imagine how hard that is xx

wendle70 Thu 03-Oct-13 18:32:14

On the due date and finding out sex issue
Bunda i am due 26 april
..and I am going to find out the sex. Reckon there are enough surprises for me at birth being a first time mum!
I actually did the harmony test today at fmc. As part of the down's blood test package you also get a scan (saw it moving, heard heartbeat and saw fingers and toes!) had a a giggle when we saw what looked like HUGE pinochio nose (was hand in front of face!) As part of that test you can find out for an extra £10 from a blood test what sex it is.

They tried to tell me though not to have the nhs 12 week scan because there was no point as the same team at fmc are at my hospital (uch) and because the nhs less accurate down's test might be different and that would confuse things. In 2 minds..surely the more tests the better?

Now have seen it move, feeling doubly guilty about lack of nutrition...tried to eat a proper lunch today but it just came right up. Bleurgh. So it's ryvitas and fruit and the odd sandwich for the foreseeable!

Good luck with scans ladies xx

Ps anyone else struggling with the exercise guidelines? Exactly how i am supposed to be exercising when all day is spent trying not to puke i don't know..!

LightTripper Thu 03-Oct-13 18:53:59

I have done Panorama (like Harmony) but am going to do NHS 12 week again. Mainly just to check everything is still ok! I think Downs wise I will be relaxed about ignoring quadruple test odds and focusing on the Panorama, so I don't see a downside. Plus it's my first chance to have a look at Homerton!

Re exercise. Big fat zero. It's as much as I can do to get to and from the bus stop. Bad as I can already feel my back starting to give up. I'm just going to have to try to catch up on health and nutrition when the sickness is over!

ChocChaffinch Thu 03-Oct-13 20:08:13

zero exercise here. cant even walk fast.
listen to your body don't force it is my mindset.

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 03-Oct-13 22:23:08

hi pear tree welcome. I got a letter from hospital with low risk for downs syndrome so thats good

BeansAndCheese Fri 04-Oct-13 07:12:34

I have carried on spinning 3 times a week. It did it before, and have been tired more than sick so it helps a bit. You can try and get back into exercise when you feel up to it. Walking is great if you dont feel up to anything else

LightTripper Fri 04-Oct-13 07:40:02

Great news VikkiJayne!

catameringue Fri 04-Oct-13 09:00:48

No exercise at this end either!


ChocChaffinch Fri 04-Oct-13 11:49:10

names names names. Everything I love dh hates, and vice versa.

bundaberg Fri 04-Oct-13 12:46:04

yay just got my scan appointment through!

friday the 11th.
it says I MUST bring my pregnancy notes... only I can't because my booking appt isn't til the 15th hmm

ho hum

LightTripper Fri 04-Oct-13 12:57:02

Ha! Same for me Bunda ... Scan on 11th, booking on 14th! It can't matter that much if they book it that way.

learnasyougo Fri 04-Oct-13 13:00:48

Re exercise, stationary bike is a good one, because you can do it no matter how big your bump. I was cycling everywhere (including to work and to my NCT classes and midwife appointments until 40 weeks. It was a darn sight more comfortable than walking! Even when I had SPD I could cycle to work just fine, then only hobble to my desk.

springfling Fri 04-Oct-13 13:13:19

Hi everyone, I am 14 + 4, due date is 31st March. But, I have been following this thread for ages, waiting till after my scan to join. My dating scan pushed me forward into March but I want to stay here! Would prefer to be at the front of the pack than behind... Hope that is ok!

LightTripper Fri 04-Oct-13 14:26:27

You're very welcome springfling! And congrats on the good scan. Funny, I am the opposite - due late April, but quite glad to be at the back of the pack to get some warning for what's coming! shock

bundaberg Fri 04-Oct-13 16:44:33

i feel like it's really real now I have scan date and have seen the midwife.

had a real omfg what have we done, moment with DP last night lol

daftgeranium Fri 04-Oct-13 18:40:44

Cranberry and cookie, thinking of you, so sorry to hear your news.

We had scan yesterday at what we thought was 12+1, turned out to be just under 11, and nuchal measurement 6mm. told this was very high risk. They refused to do bloods because baby is too little - going back next Wednesday. we are besides ourselves with worry, it's all really horrible, unreal like a bad dream.... sad

Nessalina Fri 04-Oct-13 19:32:11

Sorry to hear that Geranium, must be really stressful sad If you're only 11 weeks measured are you in the right range for the NT test?
I've had two days of appetite returning and feeling rather good, then the sickness has returned today with a vengeance! hmm In a silly way I'm a bit relieved, I've been worrying no end about the 12 week scan (next Fri) just because of other's bad experiences so sickness sort of makes me feel like all is ok! Why I can't focus on all the good scan news I have no idea!!
Re: the lack of peeing, I've not been going any more than usual all the way through, but I think early stages I wasn't drinking much coz sicky, and now I'm drinking more I guess the pressure might be off the bladder now? So hard to get enough liquid. And exercise? Are you having a laugh?! wink

bundaberg Fri 04-Oct-13 20:27:25

oh geranium that must be so worrying for you sad

BindiBarbarella Fri 04-Oct-13 20:32:17

Hope everything turns out OK for you Geranium thinking of you sad xxx

prettyinpink90 Fri 04-Oct-13 20:33:48

Sorry to hear you're having a stressful time geranium sending hugs your way!
ness I'm also really nervous about my 12 week scan which is on Monday. We saw a little baby with a strong heartbeat at 8+6 but after reading all the sad news I can't help but feel anxious. Fingers crossed for happy healthy babies at our 12 week scans!

Misty9 Fri 04-Oct-13 20:49:58

Hi all. Geranium, sorry to hear about your worrying news, hopefully everything will be okay and it might have been too early for an accurate measurement?

Had scan today and saw it kicking around smiledoing sort of hiccups every now and again. Moved forward one day so 2nd trimester today! still feeling rubbish with nausea and heartburn and worse last couple days, but probably due to tiredness and stress of moving house.

Weekend here we come!

daftgeranium Fri 04-Oct-13 21:17:54

Thank you all, it really helps.

Nessalina - don't worry re scan because of bad news stories - I read somewhere that only 1% of scans have abnormal results - hope yours is good! smile

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 04-Oct-13 21:47:43

hope it's all ok geranium. scans are worrying I had mine and now next not till November I think I'll be worried until I feel baby move

LightTripper Fri 04-Oct-13 22:20:01

So sorry the scan was worrying Geranium (great name by the way... And geraniums are hardy you know, especially daft ones). Sending hugs and keeping everything crossed that your bean is just a few days behind! Roll on Wednesday. Waiting is horrible.

Glad your scan went well Misty and that the move is all done. I'm exhausted enough getting through the day, can't imagine moving house like this. Very inspiring!

catameringue Fri 04-Oct-13 23:08:48

Sorry geranium you had a shock at the scan.

My early scan indicated raised concern, and now I have to wait til 21st for further scan.

At first we felt quite worried but I'm just going to see which way the dice land and accept I have no control over the situation.

LeeHandy Sat 05-Oct-13 08:36:35

welcome spring, we have the same due date! is this your first?

sorry you have had worrying scans geranium and cata! I hope things turn out ok in the next scan. I googled a bit on high nuchal measurements and it seems like quite a few people who had it in early scans saw the measurements reduce a couple of weeks later. that's probably why they define a narrow window of between 12 and 13+6 weeks to do it.

Vikki if you are stressed about baby moving, have you thought about getting a Doppler. I think it's the best 20 pounds I spent recently. whenever I start to worry, I just listen to baby's heartbeat and it's very reassuring to hear the little thing beating away.

I have not had any exercise at all. shock My foot is still hurting from my fall two weeks ago and I am now wondering if I cracked a bone. I probably should have it checked out soon.

I have a small bump now, not big enough to be obvious but just enough to look like I have been eating too much dessert lately. blush Which I probably have.blush blush blush

Cannotbelieveit Sat 05-Oct-13 08:57:33

Welcome newbies! Nice to have you here.

Possibly feeling a bit less sick (still haven't been sick), still feeling starving all the time!

Scan on Friday so we are looking forward to that grin hope all is still well with baby!

Dare I say it but time seems to be going a bit quicker.

11w today grin

daftgeranium Sat 05-Oct-13 10:23:54

Good luck with that catameringue - it's a long time to wait! PM me if you want to talk it through, sometimes it helps when people are in the same boat.

BindiBarbarella Sat 05-Oct-13 18:22:51

Sending you good luck vibes cata smile

I had little to no nausea for almost a week and then it came back with a vengeance on Thursday. I have treated today like the Sabbath and literally done nothing!!

Hope you ladies are all having nice weekends smile xxx

ChocChaffinch Sat 05-Oct-13 20:51:50

killer foot cramp. anyone else! oooch!

LightTripper Sat 05-Oct-13 22:15:41


Nope, am sticking with farting and vomming here. Am nothing if not consistent...


bundaberg Sat 05-Oct-13 22:17:23

not yet but I got awful leg cramps when pg with my last baby. every bloody night

LightTripper Sun 06-Oct-13 07:55:23

Is good nobody tells you this stuff before you get pregnant the first time, or I probably wouldn't be on this thread now!! blush

Misty9 Sun 06-Oct-13 08:02:31

Yep, horrible leg cramp all last evening and night sad
Anyone else feeling utterly wiped out? I can do short bursts of activity then I feel dizzy, sick and breathless and have to sit down for a while! Not sure how work will go tomorrow..


LightTripper Sun 06-Oct-13 09:11:16


I thought it would be a few decades from now before going to bed and brushing my teeth would need to become two distinct activities, with a nice lie down to catch my breath inbetween.

Nessalina Sun 06-Oct-13 09:44:36

Ha! Yes, me & the toothbrush are arch enemies these days, I eye it suspiciously on entering the bathroom - damn thing always makes me want to vom! 11 + 4 today and full of cold, bleurgh! Staying over at a friends house and its damn freezing! We've had our heating on for nearly a month now blush I'm such a weed.

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 06-Oct-13 10:49:21

I got foot cramp for a bit last night. Not as tired as i was and not been feeling ill. Still feeling bloated and everything feels heavy. am at a friends house and a friend is 8 months pregnant and it was weird and scary that will be me in 5 months sooo strange.
13 + 3 wks

LightTripper Sun 06-Oct-13 11:57:21

I have spent some of this morning reading about the stresses of trying to get an epidural... Getting ahead of myself much?!?! I'm not even 12 weeks. I am going to be a total nightmare!

In my defence, the main reason for this was catching up on the work I've got behind with this week. I worked out at the moment if I work absolutely full whack I can do 40 hours work. Normally that max is about 70. So the constant eating/nausea/tiredness is stealing about 30 hours a week. Am in AWE of people who do this with kids already (although my clients sometimes behave like small children, I can just refuse to look at email for an hour if I need a break... Apparently toddlers do not have a "pause" button...)

nevergoogle Sun 06-Oct-13 15:53:15

i am so bored of feeling lethargic and nauseated now.
i want to feel human again.

Misty9 Sun 06-Oct-13 19:26:15

With you there neverGoogle and I bet my husband is sick of me feeling like this too!

Toddlers def don't have a pause button.. currently stood outside my toddler's bedroom waiting for him to sleep. Taking my mind off nausea and heartburn at least

Discovered today that antacids like tums which I've been popping like sweeties can hinder the body's absorption of iron. Bugger. Been getting symptoms of anaemia so better lay off tums and get eating iron rich foods. Beef and broccoli stir fry anyone? smile

LeeHandy Sun 06-Oct-13 20:39:49

Light, I was stressed about trying to get an epidural before I knew I was pregnant.. hmm I am convinced that the only way I can get one is if I pay for it.
DH and I have spent the weekend researching prams. First we needed to read a guide to understand the difference between prams, pushchairs, buggys, strollers and travel systems! We tried out the bugaboo chameleon with our niece today and were very impressed with it until we realised that it can only be used until the baby is 10 kg and the average weight of a 1 year old baby is 10 kg. So people spend 800 pounds on something they use for a year or less? shock We are now wondering if we can get away with a baby carrier like bjorn or ergo for 7-8 months and then move straight to a stroller, but need to do some more research on this.

Misty9 Sun 06-Oct-13 21:04:22

lee I know it's scary how much these things cost! And yes, most people will only use it for the first year, if that. I'd say you'll find a baby bjorn hurts your back after a couple of months, due to the weight of the baby pulling it forwards. An ergo will probably be easier on you, but bear in mind the personality of your baby - we bought a moby and later a bloody beautiful but expensive rose and rebellion carrier, but ds HATED being carried and they were rarely used. I'm hoping we'll get some use out of the R&R with this one!

As for pushchairs, we got the mamas and papas glide, which is basically the same as the sola but with a carrycot included. We've been pretty happy with it and intend to use it for dc2, having used a cheap stroller for ds since he was 18mo or so. It was £350 for the package iirc.

prettyinpink90 Mon 07-Oct-13 07:56:33

Morning ladies!

I have my 12 week scan this morning. Woke up excited but equally sick with nerves.

12+1 (if my dates don't change)

LightTripper Mon 07-Oct-13 08:46:57

Ooh! Hope it goes well. Everything crossed for you.

Have just realised my Panorama test comes back this week, and the 12 week scan on Friday. So a big week coming up!

bundaberg Mon 07-Oct-13 09:20:38

misty i was going to suggest anaemia from your symptoms but see you've already thought of that :-D

leehardy fairly sure the bugaboo cam goes up to 17kg in the main seat... it might have been the carrycot that's 10kg?

with regards to epidurals... don't worry about it too much! easier said than done, I know. But you might not end up even wanting/needing one once you're in labour.
I had one with my first and it wasn't an issue. In fact I had 2 cos the first one didn't work, but I didn't have to fight for it at all, they just did it. In hindsight I wish I hadn't had it for various reasons, although I do know people who had them and loved them
I guess what i'm saying is don't get too hung up on one kind of pain relief, aside from anything else you don't need the stress and worry this early on lol
I had my second and third babies at home, so no pain relief at all and they were honestly much nicer experiences and actually easier because I could feel what was happening and when to push, which I couldn't with the epidural.

LightTripper Mon 07-Oct-13 09:45:30

Thanks bunda! I am not always very good at just taking things as they come, but this is a skill I need to learn for my own sanity!

Just had a call from my Panorama test clinic. Only had it a week ago on Friday, so didn't think it could possibly come back this soon, but it has and we are low risk on everything, which was a huge relief! Wasn't sure they would bother to call with positive results, so when the phone went I was bracing for sad news. The gender is also in the report, but asked her not to tell me on the phone so I can find out with OH when he's home from work tonight.

So excited, between that and the nausea I don't know how I'm going to get any work done at all today!! Now also in two minds about whether to tell at least my parents and sis before second scan on Friday. My Dad has his final exam for his degree today, so was going to phone them tonight anyway... Not sure I can keep this to myself any longer now!!

11+5 and not moaning for once....

bundaberg Mon 07-Oct-13 12:49:21

lighttripper, neither am i, but i;m good at telling other people to lol!
in fact, i'm awful at over-analysing and over-thinking things but I KNOW only too well the anxiety that then comes with it

what a relief to get your results back though, and to know you'll find out the gender later! will you let us know or are you keeping it to yourselves??

LightTripper Mon 07-Oct-13 12:53:43

Oh no - I'll let you know (whether you want to or not grin)!

spicynaknik Mon 07-Oct-13 13:32:34

First posting on this thread - am due 11th April I think.

Just at that stage where I don't feel really nauseous and don't feel that I have to crawl into bed at 7pm...and instead I am now worrying whether the lack of symptoms means there is a problem.

This is DC2 for me.

Wendell do you mind me asking if that was the FMC in London? I had the Harmony test there a couple of weeks ago and was told that no, it wasn't possible to find out the baby's sex. However I have noticed a couple of posts where people have mentioned the £10 extra charge to find out so I am bit confused.

LightTripper Mon 07-Oct-13 13:48:16

Hello! Welcome to the thread. Really glad to hear that "normal" life may only be a couple of weeks away!! One of my colleagues told me she woke up at 12 weeks exactly feeling fine ... that is only 2 days away, so am on tenterhooks!

I know the question re: gender testing was for Wendell, but thought I would share as much as I know from the Panorama experience. I think it must be TECHNICALLY possible with any of these tests, but get the impression that it hasn't been offered until recently in practice. I went to the Birth Company (upstairs from FMC), and they asked if we wanted to know or not. With them (at least for Panorama, but I think also for Harmony) there isn't any extra charge to find out the gender, but you do have to specifically ask them to do it - I think I've read that at some places there is a small extra charge too.

Maybe it just depends on the policy of the clinic ... if FMC have found a lot of people not wanting girls, maybe they choose not to offer it even if it is theoretically available?

prettyinpink90 Mon 07-Oct-13 14:52:35

My scan went great, we have a happy healthy baby who wriggled so much the sonographer couldn't get proper measurements at first. They have brought my dates forward by two days which means I'm 12+3 and due on the 18th April smile

Nessalina Mon 07-Oct-13 17:22:15

Hello ladies, hope you're all well smile Good news on the wriggly scan Pink! My breasts are driving me mental today even with new resized bras - is anyone else finding that their nipples itch like hell?!

spicynaknik Mon 07-Oct-13 17:41:55

LightTripper my original understanding was that the lab definitely can provide gender info from the genetic material extracted but for ethical reasons they don't disclose this info, to prevent people potentially having terminations on the basis of gender. However, it seems that this is changing.

wendle70 Mon 07-Oct-13 17:49:55

Hello ladies

Great news on scan pretty in pink! Hope all of those others who are waiting for scans and results are holding in there.

Re gender question.. yes was fmc (Dr Barbara) and they just asked did we want to know and it would cost £10 extra! We were like YES PLEASE! Weird if they don't always offer this - it was only a week ago...

Oh I am so excited by the post that said symptoms can actually stop on 12th week.. googling told me it might be more like 16 weeks and the thought of feeling this sick for a further month...although I puked a bit less this weekend which was a small step for mankind.

and re over analysing and over googling everything now..errr totally! I am now starting to worry about exposure to electrons/wireless thingies as so surgically attached to iphone.

Bump definitely prominent now although other half said it looks like a chardonnay belly! I am telling friends (and told my family) apart from work mates. Going to wait until after scan on 18th before cat is out of bag with everyone else.

mamapants Mon 07-Oct-13 18:57:29

I don't know anyone in real life who hasn't had an epidural when they wanted one. They were actually urging me to have one. I'm sure it does happen but I wouldn't start worrying about it now.

I still haven't had appt for scan. I don't want to be a pain but think I'm going to have to phone my midwife to chase this up. She was meant to chase it up last week after my booking in appt but its getting ridiculous now.

LeeHandy Mon 07-Oct-13 20:23:16

Misty I never thought that the baby may not like being carried around, but of course, you are absolutely right. Sometimes I wonder how I can be so ignorant and still qualify to have one. smile I suppose we shouldn't eliminate the idea of a push-chair though my baby may decide to be contrary and refuse to lie in the 800 pound bugaboo. grin
I'm glad your scans and tests went well Pink and Light!!
Welcome Spicy and congratulations!
Mama and Bunda you're right, there's no point in thinking about epidurals now. But I suppose that's just one of the things that I can think about that I can actually control as opposed to the rest of the process.
You're also absolutely right, Bunda, the chameleon does go up to 17kg. I don't know where I got the 10kg number from? Possibly from the weight of the chameleon itself rather than its capacity.

ChocChaffinch Mon 07-Oct-13 20:24:48

going into my birth in my plan I had been quite definite that I did NOT want an epidural...
then in labour I decided I did.. but the MW ''persuaded'' me I really didn't as I had declared in my pre-birth ignorance,
as it turned out it was probably better I hadn't even though I needed a spinal for the further surgery after delivery
if Id had epidural Im sure it would've been a forceps/ ventouse and I'd have been even more damaged
moral - don't declare you DON't want birth pain options in your birth plan , be as openminded as possible wink

ChocChaffinch Mon 07-Oct-13 20:26:45

we're having mothercare's own pushchair/carseat/carrycot set, my sister had one and it is fab. Easy to use, tall adjustable handle, as I am tall, range of colours, probably going to have the apple green or the bright red.. it's all in for £250

bundaberg Mon 07-Oct-13 21:27:52

i'm going to get a baby jogger city versa GT I think. maybe. unless I change my mind again lol

i do have a proper big pram which I got for DS1, so will prob use that to start with

and one of my many slings. I will have to go out a LOT with this baby so I can use all of its modes of transport blush

Definitelysometime Mon 07-Oct-13 21:47:05

Wow, haven't been on for ages so trying to quickly catch up on all your news. I'm 15 wks today and feeling like a new woman! Those still feeling rough, hang on in there. Weeks 10-12 were actually my worst. But you know what they say, it's always darkest before the dawn. About 13 weeks and ping! No sickness and shiny shiny hair. Hurrah. Wish that meant I was exercising and eating like a yoga bunny but alas the cravings for nandos and egg fried rice remain. Along with wind and udders-for-breasts. So not exactly sweetness and light. Anyway light, any gender news for us?!

LightTripper Tue 08-Oct-13 07:56:11

Aw, definitelymaybe have a massive thank you hug for putting light at the end of the vom tunnel!

Last night not so great, got some sad family news so didn't feel it was the right time to share mine in the end, and then felt sick all evening, even food didn't help. Anyway, went to bed at 9 so didn't have a chance to post...

But actually before I went to bed OH and I thought we needed cheering up so he looked at our results and .... We are having a girl!! I joked to him we would have to stock up on pink paint grin. It's funny, I felt like it was a girl, but suspect that's just because I have a younger sister, so my brain was taught early that babies are girls smile

Anyway, it was a nice way to end the day! Yesterday was just so weird. It feels like everything in the world happened yesterday, good and bad. I still can't get my head around it. I'm hoping for a calmer day today!

LT 11+6 (so last day of sickness, right? Right?)

LightTripper Tue 08-Oct-13 07:57:21

Sorry, definitelysometime!!

Definitelysometime Tue 08-Oct-13 08:15:32

Oh I'm so sorry you had sad news yesterday. Do hope you're ok.

What exciting news about your pink little bundle! Once you're out of said vom tunnel you can get out there and start browsing super cute tiny little girl things!

I'm team yellow, but right now 25 more weeks seems like forevvvveerrr!

BeansAndCheese Tue 08-Oct-13 16:00:46

I am jealous you know the sex so early. I couldn't find out at all last time. I really hope I get told winky/no winky at 20wk scan. Dh is too tight to pay for an extra scan!grin

wendle70 Tue 08-Oct-13 20:47:30

Lighttripper you are a few days ahead of me. Am on tenterhooks hoping that you will confirm in just a few days you are feeling wonderful.

The vom tunnel is also getting to me. It just sucks the joy out of everything..even OH said tonight it's hard to feel mega positive..cant cook or eat a nice meal, dread travelling anywhere, cant really make conversation as feeling so sick, cant cuddle at night, cant sleep through..I cant tell you how bad the air freshener in the loo at work makes me feel it brings on dry heave every time i go in there. I just feel like I am counting down the days. But if i feel better at 13 weeks latest that's only 1 week plus 4 left to go...

LightTripper Tue 08-Oct-13 22:17:12

Well today was better than yesterday. Still felt sick all the time, but managed to work until 8 and stay up till now with no vom, whereas last couple of weeks have been horizontal by 5 and in bed by 9.30, so fingers crossed its downhill from here! Think I can work from home tomorrow, so hoping that will help (plus obviously 12+0 is the magic number, so will be fully cured in the morning anyway!)

LeeHandy Tue 08-Oct-13 22:28:44

light great news that you are having a girl! I badly want a baby girl as well but am probably having a boy.
choc is this the mothercare one you meant? http://www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Xpedior-Pram-Pushchair-Travel-System/psX5077,default,pd.html
I am also on the lookout for a tall one and the uppababy vista goes up to 104 or 107 cm.
I haven't checked the baby jogger series out yet though. I think I will make a trip to the store to see what all of them look like first.

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LightTripper Wed 09-Oct-13 09:42:42

Well, wendle, I am sorry to report from the other side of the 12 week line that it is still nauseous (though no vomming in week 12 so far, yay!). However, the NHS emailed me this morning to tell me that my pregnancy sickness (am boycotting the term "morning sickness") should start to ease, so will be making a formal complaint at my booking in on Monday if it turns out not to be true grin

I did find this quite interesting summary of lots of research on NVP (well, wha there is) and felt, (a) a bit unlucky, but also (b) a bit encouraged, as it looks like on average weeks 10-12 are the worst, so there really is some hope to hold out for...


It is also quite nice just to see the unhappiness and loss of productivity caused taken a bit seriously somewhere, which seems to be quite rare.

CazInLondon Wed 09-Oct-13 14:29:55

LeeHandy I have the Uppababy Cruz which is fantastic - you can happily drive it around the park but also take it on the bus with no issues, because the wheels are smaller than on the Vista. If it is confirmed that I have a healthy baby growing in my belly at tomorrow's scan, we'll need to start thinking about a double pram and I'll be very sorry to sell my urgent one which I love!

I'm about to take DS for his very first settling in session at nursery and starting to feel quite emotional, it's going to be so hard to hide it when I say goodbye but I'm gonna have to! One year maternity leave sounds like a really long time but it goes so so quickly. Sigh.



daftgeranium Wed 09-Oct-13 19:10:29

hello again all. Afraid to say the tests today were pretty bad - high probabilities of DS plus physical defects at scan sad looks like little chance that baby will survive.

I'm signing off at this point - wanted to wish you all the best of luck with your pregnancies and babies xx

bundaberg Wed 09-Oct-13 19:32:57

oh daft i;m so sorry to hear that <hugs> sad

maybe start another thread if you feel up to it? because I know there are people on here who've been given similar prognoses and gone on to have their baby, and also those who have chosen to terminate the pregnancy.
it's an awful decision to have to make sad

Cannotbelieveit Wed 09-Oct-13 20:20:24

So so sorry to hear that geranium xxx sending love xx

ChocChaffinch Wed 09-Oct-13 21:33:28

sending love, geranium. Look after yourself X

ChocChaffinch Wed 09-Oct-13 21:39:22


yes it is the mothercare xpedior set, £250 is a good price for what you get, raincover & footmuff even are included.

This is my 3rd dc all being well, so I know what I want and need from a buggy.
With dd, our 1st one, we bought a three-wheeler mothercare thing, very heavy, very grey (dh colour choice) with inflatable tyre wheels. Fecking thing had about 83 punctures - from pavements / shopping centres as didn't take it anywhere off the beaten track. Then I bought a pushchair suitable from birth, mothercare again, about £80 at the time, worth its weight in gold and light as a feather to stick in the car boot

I m 5'9'' and the xpedior is plenty tall enough for me. It has a good size shopping basket too. When I have a buggy I can walk to the library as the books can be carried in the buggy net and not in a bag in my hand :-) I will also stroll up to supermarket for odd bits.
Travel systems mean at a push you can put carseat into the buggy base, useful if baby asleep and means you don't disturb

we didn't really use the carrycot much with dd, but will this time as have read around and better for baby to lie flat as much as poss.

LeeHandy Wed 09-Oct-13 21:41:36

so sorry to hear about your news geranium please take care and hope you find strength at this time.

LeeHandy Wed 09-Oct-13 21:45:38

caz i have been reading some comparisons between the vista & the cruz and several people said that though the cruz is lighter and narrower the suspension is quite hard and so the vista was a more comfortable choice. Did you feel this was a problem at all?

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 09-Oct-13 21:47:41

sorry to hear that geranium

CazInLondon Wed 09-Oct-13 22:24:00

Really sorry about this sad news Geranium, make sure you and your DH take care of yourselves and each other...

LeeHandy, haven't personally found the suspension to be a problem, yet we go to the park a lot and some of the pavements in my area are quite bumpy. DS doesn't seem to mind! I find it easy to "drive" and steer around, even one-handed. I also forgot to mention, the handle's height is adjustable so my OH (6'3) can push it just as comfortably as I can at 5'7.

Any decent shop should offer you the option to test drive the models you're interested in!


LightTripper Wed 09-Oct-13 22:25:27

I'm so sorry geranium. Love to you and Mr DG xx

LeeHandy Wed 09-Oct-13 22:38:45

caz we plan to go to one of the large stores and try them out as well. did you buy the optional carrycot as well? the adjustable height is definitely important as I am 6' and dh is 6'1". so far I like uppababy (though not sure yet on vista vs cruz) but am still reading up on other brands as well. if I can find something cheaper that ticks the boxes, I will buy it happily.

Nessalina Wed 09-Oct-13 22:39:16

Awful news Geranium, thoughts are with you & your DH sad thanksthanks

Nessalina Wed 09-Oct-13 22:41:37

12 weeks today! And still feeling sick!! This was not the deal at all hmm I was promised I'd feel fresh and fab, day 1 trimester 2!! Lol. Dream on. Good to hear that it might at least be the beginning of the end.
Scan on Fri, not let myself even consider buggies etc til afterwards!
12 + 0 grin

LightTripper Thu 10-Oct-13 07:56:13

Hello Ness! My scan is tomorrow too. Looking forward to seeing little bean again, keeping everything crossed will still be OK! Getting very impatient to be through with the vomming now too... Hopefully just a few days to go.

LT 12+1

Vikkijayne2507 Thu 10-Oct-13 08:39:17

I had 2 days this week where i was sick in the morning and am now 14 + 1 weeks. Keeping hearing HB on doppler and its getting louder and easier to find in the last week. I also have a bump that appeared this week but it seems quite big. ive not been eaten more than usual or changed anything so i think it must be uterus moving up and pushing everything out and making way

Cannotbelieveit Thu 10-Oct-13 09:03:34

I have the scan tomorrow too! Got no one to look after DS tho so gotta hope he sleeps so hubby can actually come in with me!

11+5 grin

catameringue Thu 10-Oct-13 09:05:25

Sorry to hear your news Geranium.

I spent Tuesday and yesterday vomming with migraine. Migraines are fun now that I can't take anything for them.

I understood 2nd trimester is 13 weeks so maybe we have one more bad week and that'll be it?!

Someone said I was unusually big. I haven't put on any weight yet. So that was nice of them.

CazInLondon Thu 10-Oct-13 09:56:48

Hey LeeHandy, yes I did get the carrycot but DS outgrew it quite quickly, by about 4.5-5 months I would say (though he is quite tall, taking after his daddy!). I think one advantage of the Vista over the Cruz is that the carrycot is larger (but don't quote me on that, it's just an impression I got from seeing them on the street and comparing the size to mine. I'm sure the size difference will be quite clear in the shop).

I have my scan at 3pm today! Equally excited and scared (to have another baby so soon... that they will find a problem... Aaaah!). Trying to tell myself, like I did when I had a MC before, that if something happens it just wasn't meant to be, but it's such a tough thing to go through; my whole heart goes out to the ladies here and their partners who are facing this horrible ordeal...


CazInLondon Thu 10-Oct-13 09:57:30

Oh and also meant to ask, any scan buddies out there having theirs today, too?


ThedementedPenguin Thu 10-Oct-13 11:57:41

Hi again.

You fell off my TIO. Not that I post much.

How's everyone today?

LightTripper Thu 10-Oct-13 16:06:42

Catameringue.... Just shock at that comment!!

I am also slightly lighter than I started, though slowly getting back there. To be fair, by the evening I do look pretty much like a heffalump, but then deflate back to my normal shape overnight smile

Hope today's scans went well! Mine is tomorrow morning. Looking forward to it I think.

12+2 (and still vommy)

BindiBarbarella Thu 10-Oct-13 18:47:15

Such sad news Geranium take care of yourself thanks sad

Hope all the scans went well today and good luck for all tomorrow! Mine is at 10.30am - I'm equal parts excited and terrified at the moment. Seems like there are so many things that can go wrong sad I'm sure everyone else is worried too. Best of luck ladies! xxx

LeeHandy Thu 10-Oct-13 19:23:44

hope your scan went well caz, updates please!
lots of scans tomorrow! good luck nessa, light, cannot and bindi!!
fingers crossed for all of you!

CazInLondon Thu 10-Oct-13 19:32:35

It went well, thanks LeeHandy smile

One little surprise for us, going by LMP I thought I was 12+2, but it turns out I'm actually 13+2!! Which explains why I got pregnant in the first place (turns out it was conceived on the day after my period finished, when we thought it was safe to fool around with no protection... Well there is never a safe time, apparently! Sorry if TMI!). It would also perhaps explain why I've been feeling SO MUCH better the past couple of days, no nausea and tiredness, hurrah!

Was hoping to hide my pregnancy away for a few weeks when I go back to work from mat leave next week but now everything's been pushed a week forward, I think I'm gonna have to be very shrewd indeed...

Hope everyone else is doing okay today!


LightTripper Thu 10-Oct-13 20:05:57

God news on your scan Caz! So, 13 weeks is my new non vom target. So glad you are feeling better (not only for selfish reasons!)

Misty9 Thu 10-Oct-13 20:17:17

Hi all

So sorry to hear your sad news daft sad hope you've got good support around you.

I'm afraid I'm another one bursting the bubble that is the myth sickness goes away at 12wks dead on! 14 weeks tomorrow and still feeling blurgh. Tonight everything I eat is leaving a hideous taste in my mouth, which makes me feel sick. But if I don't eat, I feel sick. The joys. I'm also unbelievably shattered all the time.

It's weird, my bump seems smaller these past couple days - but I can't fit into my work trousers anymore, so must be growing! Annoyingly I seemed to start off fatter in my last pregnancy so all my trousers are a size too big. I'm only working until January so will have to shell out on mat trousers for all of three months. Grr.

Nessalina Thu 10-Oct-13 22:05:09

Gosh, lots of us having scans tomorrow! Mine's at 3:30. Will look forward to coming on after and hearing how well they've all gone! Fx smile

CazInLondon Fri 11-Oct-13 07:45:38

Best of luck today LightTripper, Nessalina,cannotbelieveit and Bindi! What an exciting way to end the week, keep us posted smile

cannot - we took DS in with us and had his afternoon bottle at the ready, when he started to moan because he wasn't happy sitting still my OH gave him his milk and that helped keep him quiet and happy for a while. The scan technician said that babies often cry in the scan room because they are worried about what she's doing to their mummies!

Will be thinking of you all today!


prettyinpink90 Fri 11-Oct-13 07:58:14

Good luck to all you ladies having your scans today! smile

Cannotbelieveit Fri 11-Oct-13 08:07:53

Thanks Caz will have to see how he is as he won't wait for his afternoon bottle he has it between 3-3.30 and scan is 4.20! Hope hubby can come in tho xx

Hurry up today x

grin 11+6

wendle70 Fri 11-Oct-13 09:39:38

Good luck with all the scans today ladies xx

wendle70 Fri 11-Oct-13 09:42:41

Ps i caved in and saw the doc about an anti emetic but turns out he has prescribed me metaclopromide which is one of the least researched ones (according to light's very useful pregnancysicknesssupport page) and the patient information leaflet says do not take in early pregnancy! So i wont be taking that! Going to see if he can prescribe me the more researched ones so got them on standby...it's just nice to know they're there. Am hoping wont need to take them.

bundaberg Fri 11-Oct-13 10:38:44

back from my scan! all is well, little thing was wriggling away grin

all seems a bit real now <scared>

Vikkijayne2507 Fri 11-Oct-13 10:44:12

Yay Bundaberg it does feel more real after scans doesnt it smile

prettyinpink90 Fri 11-Oct-13 11:09:06

Fab news about your scan bunda isn't it amazing to see them wriggling around!

LightTripper Fri 11-Oct-13 11:57:22

Thanks all! Back from scan. All looks good still. NT only 0.8, and baby girl moving around and everything present and correct as far as they can tell at this stage! Sonographer was lovely, not rushed at all.

They aren't going to do the other tests, as I'd already had Panorama which is more accurate. They obviously hadn't seen Panorama before (not surprising, think it only appeared in my clinics options in the two weeks between me booking and actually going to the appointment!). But they were familiar with Harmony. Sonographer did need to check whether to still do the blood tests though, so they don't see it THAT often I guess.

So now this weekend is announcement weekend! How are you guys all doing it? I'd really like to tell my parents in person, but worried that by the time I got there I'd risk announcing by throwing up, so think I am going to tell them on the phone tonight and then see if they have time to come for lunch one day at the weekend. But is it terrible to tell by phone? Then we were just going to tell siblings and closest friends, and just let things spread naturally from there. Suspect our news will be a shock to a lot of people, but hopefully a happy one! Still a bit nervous about the whole announcement thing though...

Good luck to all the other scanees!


LightTripper Fri 11-Oct-13 12:23:12

Congrats on your scan bunda!

wendle, I have a feeling that's what I was given too. I'm afraid it didn't do much for me, so I only took 4 in the end then gave up! I actually think when you're feeling that bad sometimes it's better to actually be sick, but nice to have the option anyway.

CazInLondon Fri 11-Oct-13 13:21:59

Whoop whoop Bundaberg and LightTripper! Have fun sharing your news over the weekend smile

wendle70 Fri 11-Oct-13 17:10:19

LightTripper yes good point I agree the only relief is the being sick part. Going to hold off meds for now. Havent actually been sick today although always worse in the evenings but maybe just maybe it's easing...

congrats on the scans ladies! glad they went well. In my 10 week scan i saw it moving around so much was soo weird and made it much more real (and lovely). can't wait till next Friday's full proper scan is over and I can totally come out of the pregnancy closet with everyone!

I have been rubbish at keeping it a secret though - have told most family and friends already but this weekend we're telling my OH's family as we're staying with them and I can't hide the puking any more! With the puking and the prominent bump there is no hiding it for any longer anyway...have good weekends all with your lovely news smile

Cannotbelieveit Fri 11-Oct-13 18:26:00

Scan all good! Dates bang on! So happy to see bean again and they let us take DS in

11+6 grin

BindiBarbarella Fri 11-Oct-13 18:31:01

Congrats to all other ladies on their good scans today! I also have good scan news smile I have a very wriggly baby! It was so surreal seeing it like that! Sonographer couldn't quite get the NT Measurement accurately but said she was sure it was fine from what she could see. I'm so relieved. Hope everyone has fun spreading the good news - I've had a lot of squeals over the phone smilesmile xxx

Nessalina Fri 11-Oct-13 18:38:51

Hey ladies, sorry to bring the thread down, but scan did not go well here sad
NT of 9.3mm and lots of fluid in baby's chest around lungs. Doctor said it looks likely to have a severe heart defect, and they don't usually see babies with this much fluid carry to term, less than 10% chance.
Absolutely gutted. Back for more tests on Monday to let us know cause and prognosis with more accuracy, then I guess we'll have some decisions to make.

BindiBarbarella Fri 11-Oct-13 19:04:34

Oh Ness I'm so sorry to hear that. Can't imagine how you must be feeling sadsadsad Lots of love to you - take care of yourself xxx

bundaberg Fri 11-Oct-13 19:20:00

Nessalina, I'm so sorry to hear that sad

LightTripper Fri 11-Oct-13 19:30:02

Oh Ness.
sad flowers
I'm so sorry.

LeeHandy Fri 11-Oct-13 20:10:59

I am so sorry Ness!! please take care...thanks

Bodeccia Fri 11-Oct-13 20:16:50

Really sorry ness, thinking of you thanks

wendle70 Fri 11-Oct-13 20:22:12

Really sorry to hear that ness. Thinking of you and daft geranium. It's such a scary time x

CazInLondon Fri 11-Oct-13 20:44:40

Oh Nessalina, I am so sorry. My heart goes out to you and your other half xxx

Cannotbelieveit Fri 11-Oct-13 20:52:56

Oh gosh Ness, so sorry to hear that xxx sending you hugs xxx

BeansAndCheese Sat 12-Oct-13 07:13:12

So sorry ness, terrible news xx

Nessalina Sat 12-Oct-13 10:44:05

Thanks ladies. Emotional turmoil here, but trying to stay positive! Some good support to be found on the antenatal test threads, so gonna mooch over there for a bit, and I'll keep you posted with any news. Best wishes for continuing happy healthy pregnancies for all of you xxx

LightTripper Sat 12-Oct-13 11:01:15

Good idea Ness. Thanks for keeping us posted! I would much rather know than just see people disappear and worry. Fingers crossed you get some good news and are in the 10pc xxx

LightTripper Sat 12-Oct-13 11:06:52

Slightly weird thing on my measurements yesterday. When she first measured, she got 68mm. She then re measured and got 62, which she seemed happier with. And then on my actual print out it said 60, which is the right size for my dates. I wonder if that is pretty normal if you are close to the right size for your dates, and there is no point moving just a couple of days?

Anyway, I'm perfectly happy with it. We actually know our dates within a couple of days either way, as we only tried when I thought I was fertile, so it can't be far out. But then when they say measurements are a more accurate predictor than conception dates at this stage...makes me wonder how meaningful that actually is!

Trinpy Sat 12-Oct-13 17:30:36

Thinking of you Ness. Sorry you have to make such a difficult decision.

Vikkijayne2507 Sat 12-Oct-13 17:38:05

sorry to hear that ness thinking of you thanks

mamapants Sat 12-Oct-13 18:42:08

Sorry to hear Nessa and Geraniums sad news. Hope you find out more soon.

I finally have a date for a scan, it will be this coming friday. So will finally have a due date and hopefully everything will be ok. I was so nervous with DS scan, was shaking. Will probably be the same this time. My letter told me I'm not allowed to bring DS. Seems a bit unfair and will have to pay childminder to have him. Oh well.

CazInLondon Sat 12-Oct-13 21:53:00

That's so rubbish, mamapants - I didn't know some places didn't allow you to bring your DC in. I just rocked up with DS and went in without asking if it was okay, oops!

Great that you finally have your scan date though, roll on Friday!


bundaberg Sat 12-Oct-13 22:29:31

we aren't allowed to bring children either,

partly in case they make a fuss and they then can't do the scan properly, and partly in case you get bad news

BeansAndCheese Sun 13-Oct-13 08:06:21

Maybe not a bad thing if you can get child care. We had to take dd with us, but she caused something of a disturbance. She got very distressed by the small dark room and had an enormous paddy when taken outside. Very cute when brought back in, scrambled on the bed next to me and stroked my face. Ideally would not take her next time.

CazInLondon Sun 13-Oct-13 09:25:04

Fair enough, I was looking at it more from the point of view of someone who can't get childcare in the middle of the day. I tried to see if anyone was able to look after my 11 months old for a couple of hours but all my friends were busy or working!

If he was older and able to grasp the situation, the possibility if him hearing bad news alongside me would be a worry indeed...


LightTripper Sun 13-Oct-13 14:29:26

Hello all! Spent yesterday telling family. They were surprised but happy for us!! Going to tell our closest friends today. More nervous about that to be honest, as we have always been part of quite a tight knit little group of child free friends who go on holiday together etc. There are only a handful of us left and I think it will be a bit of a shock and although they'll be happy for us it isn't probably going to be a welcome change. Biological clocks, life choices and all that. This stuff is hard.

Anyway, family calls were lovely. My sister was brilliant. She must have mixed feelings because of her mmc last year and a bunch of other stuff going on, but she just did really excited auntie jumping up and down noises. She is so lovely, I feel so lucky.

Turns out she had very similar nausea to me with her mmc, as did my Mum with all 3 pregnancies (two dc and one mc), so not that surprising that I have it I guess. My Mum felt really good in second trimester though, so just hanging on for that. It's just so nice that they know! It has really felt like sneaking around. Really want my besties to know too and then no more secrets.

Hope you are all having good weekends!

Trinpy Sun 13-Oct-13 19:27:14

It's lovely being able to be tell everyone, isn't it? Glad your sister was so excited Light, the mmc must have been really tough for her.

I accidentally bought a pram yesterday blush . Really didn't mean to buy anything much until after 20 week scan, but I couldn't help myself! Luckily dh was happy with my impulse buy!

I have my 16 week mw appointment tomorrow because my mw is away on holiday next week. I can't believe I've got this far. It's gone by so quickly.


bundaberg Sun 13-Oct-13 20:07:53

we told the children yesterday, so that they could break the news to my parents. Cos I was too scared to tell them myself pmsl
i knew my mum's reaction would be along the lines of "omg, what have you done that for"... so getting the kids to tell her meant she had to be happy for us grin

there is something very wrong about being in your thirties and being scared to tell your parents you're pregnant lol. DP still hasn't told his

LightTripper Sun 13-Oct-13 20:44:24

I know!! I am almost 40 for Goodness sake!! Funny really.

Anyway, have now told two of the three friends we were going to tell, and has also gone OK. Think they were probably more shocked than our parents even, but were pleased for us too, and I hope we put their minds at rest we are going to do our best to be the same people and not disappear into parent-land completely!

Feels so good to have it out there. Didn't realise how worried I had been until I wasn't worried any more!

Congrats on the pram purchase trinpy! What did you go for? My OH is aching to get going on the decoration we need to do before baby arrives, but I'm holding off until the nausea dies down!

LT 12+4

wendle70 Sun 13-Oct-13 21:05:11

Hi ladies glad news went well. We told OH's mum this weekend and she was pleased though shocked and certainly a lot to take in! Haven't told OH's kids yet..need to find the right way/maybe take advice.

Just thought I'd post as light my pregnancy sickness has subsided this weekend. Not gone completely but havent been sick and 60 pc at least improvement. On the exact day I turned 12 weeks! Of course it may come back next week but has been lovely to feel a bit more like me..hope all yours improve soon too..

Now just counting down days to scan on Friday...

bundaberg Sun 13-Oct-13 21:34:12

i did a facebook reveal lol, means that pretty much everyone i know now knows, so no more announcing

LightTripper Mon 14-Oct-13 07:13:52

Thanks Wendle! Another one alighting the nausea train, yay!

catameringue Mon 14-Oct-13 09:00:08

My n and v is easing off, still challenging after about 5pm. Tiredness is still here to stay.

Starting to eat normal food again but only things like soup etc.

I've ordered a maternity dress as I've got a couple of smart do's coming up over the winter. I hope it won't look like a sack. My normal dresses are tight on the tummy so I wouldn't fit them now.

prettyinpink90 Mon 14-Oct-13 13:38:08

Afternoon ladies, hoping you can advise me as I'm freaking out a little bit. For the past couple is days I've had a tender patch to the left of my belly button. It's not causing me any pain but if I lean on it or touch it, it's quite tender. I put it down to my muscles stretching but now today I have yellow discharge (sorry tmi!!!). Is this normal or should I give the midwife a call?

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LightTripper Mon 14-Oct-13 16:34:24

cata great that your sickness is lifting a bit too!

PiP I don't suppose it is anything to worry about! but probably worth a call to the midwife to be sure? Speaking to mine today she seemed to think if it didn't smell of fish (blech!) it was OK.

Beetle welcome back! Twins must be exciting! I'm sure there's lots of time or them to untangle themselves. Stupid question, but if they are identical does that mean they are in the same sac, or do they have one each? My cousins are identical twins. Always had a lot of fun pretending to be each other at school!

BeetleBeetle Mon 14-Oct-13 18:06:18

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LightTripper Mon 14-Oct-13 19:13:46

Presumably you're suffering Beetle? I read that twins make it even worse... But hopefully done with all that soon!

nevergoogle Mon 14-Oct-13 19:24:43

Nausea ongoing here. And now have a cold on top.

Just burst into tears this morning. I'm so fed up and exhausted with feeling ill. I'm so bored of this laying on the sofa and achieving nothing.

Working full time while feeling grim is exhausting.


LightTripper Mon 14-Oct-13 19:38:48

Snap nevergoogle! Woke up at 3.45 with sore throat and all bunged up. Joy. On the bright side I now can't smell some of the things that make me queasy, so that's something! Annoying not to be able to take too much for it though. I guess hot lemon and honey is Ok?

I'm lucky work is not too busy at the moment. If it was I would be in big trouble.

Going to bed soon in the hope that sleep will cure all ills. OH away for work this week, so I am having to do my own fetching and carrying :-(

How far along are you though? There is a really good chance that one morning pretty soon we wake up feeling fab!

nevergoogle Mon 14-Oct-13 19:51:28

14+1.(am losing patience)

I'm taking paracetamol and using my inhaler loads.

Just retched watching you've been framed with the kids.

Misty9 Mon 14-Oct-13 20:25:08

I'm sick of feeling crap too sad 14+3 here and no sign of it letting up as everyone keeps bloody telling me it will
Not too bad until 3pm then it's all downhill and feeling nauseous and heartburn-y for the afternoon and evening. That foul taste in the mouth is hideous!

Excuse moaning, had crap day at work too and came home to tantrumming toddler... And I don't fit in any of my clothes so had to do trolley dash on newlook maternity online.

Rant over.

wendle70 Mon 14-Oct-13 22:03:11

Just a quick post in case you thought I got away lightly on the nausea... Was def worse today (12+2) than on Miracle Saturday when i felt brilliant. Fairly nauseous for large chunks of the day but still holding off on vomming. So still an improvement on last week. Hoping you all feel better soon. Keep us posted. I can't wait to fancy food again and not feel sick!

Trinpy Mon 14-Oct-13 23:26:30

Light I ordered the bugaboo cameleon. So hard to choose though, theres too many options!

Sorry to hear you're all feeling so sick. I thought we were all supposed to be feeling great by now?? I finally gave in today and went home from work after lunch. Hopefully I can get an appointment to see my gp tomorrow and pick up some anti-sickness medicine. Also saw mw today. I might have a uti but they need another sample to check. Joy. grin


LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 07:44:36

Oh no, misty, never ... I have my 20 year college reunion at 14+3 and really don't want to miss it, but I'll be totally useless if I feel like this! If it's just over by then I will be eternally grateful, that's the deal...

LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 07:48:35

That looks really neat Trinpy! If you get a buggy with a bassinet, do you reckon you need a Moses basket too? Seems a bit mad to buy something specifically that may only get a few weeks use. I used to sleep in a drawer and I turned out OK (I tell myself...)

Or am I just being a cheap old moo?

LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 07:49:13

Wendle, glad it's a move in the right direction, if not a complete cure.

BeetleBeetle Tue 15-Oct-13 08:03:07

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LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 08:26:50

Beetle, not at all. I actually think the nausea is by far the worst part. So relentless. The throwing up is obviously unpleasant but if I could just get rid of one or the other I would get rid of the nausea any day.

Obviously different for people with HG who can't keep anything down, but for me the nausea is by far the worst bit.

LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 08:33:31

Interesting you get travel sick though. So do I, and apparently there is a strong link between travel sickness and pregnancy sickness, so we were always more likely to get it!

Trinpy Tue 15-Oct-13 09:38:23

I didn't know there was a link between travel sickness and pregnancy sickness. I've always got travel sick so I suppose it was inevitable.

Bugaboo donkey looks great. I like that you can choose different colour packs.

I'm having a Moses basket but only because someones offered to lend me theirs. I quite liked the idea of a bedside cot for nighttime.

LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 09:52:10

Well, of course now I go to check that and the evidence seems a bit mixed. But some studies have found it...


bundaberg Tue 15-Oct-13 16:59:54

i didn't have a moses basket for any of my previous 3.

had a crib upstairs and then a cot (which we used side-car on the bed), and they slept in the pram downstairs (well, ds2 was mostly in the sling as he wouldn't be put down)

this time I'm planning on just using the cotbed and taking a side off and having it up against our bed again from the get-go so i don't have to buy a crib as well.
we got rid of all the baby stuff after DS3 as I didn't want any more babies haha

LightTripper Tue 15-Oct-13 19:15:40

Oops! Well, at least this time you know what you actually need!

Cannotbelieveit Tue 15-Oct-13 21:45:46

Hubby looked at the bugaboo donkey but we decided to stay with oyster as didn't like the foam handles on the bugaboo and also we felt it overpriced for what it is. The oyster max is £528 and we prefer it and I've loved our regular oyster.

12+3 grin still felting sick tho

wendle70 Tue 15-Oct-13 22:31:37

Ah i used to get travel sickness too! Interesting. Today has been bad..felt really sick all day at work and just come home to huge vom session. Feel so tired and i dont know whether you ladies do this but there are tears in my eyes from the exertion post vom. So feeling a tad fed up and emotional! I've planned the first social event i've had in my diary for ages meeting up with friends for lunch on Sat and now thinking I'll have to cancel. Got OH's mum's bday lunch tomorrow too and I'll struggle to make it through that but will have to try. Feel not far off having to take a sick day. It just is so ironic as someone else said that if we werent pregnant we would definitely be off sick feeling like this! Hope we all feel better soon...

LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 07:48:13

Definitely! But you can't take 6 weeks off sick can you!? Horrible. My sis said when she was like this she used to have to stop for a cry between getting off the tube and getting into work. Mine is worse in the afternoons/evenings, but can definitely feel that way on the way home. :-(

I have a big college reunion in 10 days, so that is my big "deadline". Having had the chance to sound out more people now, end dates are anywhere between 12 and 16+ weeks, which is a bit depressing. I just hang on to the fact that it could end any day...

Was supposed to be going to the opening meeting of one of these networking"lean in" groups tonight. Feel terrible about it but will have to bail I think. Hope they don't kick me out if I miss the first one as it's supposed to last a year and would be really useful for work! But anyway, it is what it is.

LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 07:50:28

Oh and yes, really stingy tears at the end of a vom session, totally with you. If I can get to the sink in time it's better as I can turn the tap on and run water over my face between heaves. Otherwise vile vile vile. Never had that before with normal tummy bug type sickness.

wendle70 Wed 16-Oct-13 08:32:33

Urgh i have definitely regressed to last week's nadir of preg sickness. Could hardly sleep last night for nausea and this morning very sick. But yes it could end any day! I'm going to go and get the other more trusted anti sickness pills on Fri as i think knowing I have them might help somehow even if i hold off taking them.

Ha light i cant imagine doing any networking in this condition. I cant even stomach seeing my friends let alone business contacts. Although maybe talking about the sickness could be a good opener with the other mums in the group. Until you puked when it would be more of a lean away than a lean in!

catameringue Wed 16-Oct-13 09:36:24

The only thing I have bought is a moses basket - less than a fiver off ebay so if it's rubbish I can flog it myself!

I cry a little after vomming because it's so unpleasant. I started gagging whilst driving the other day and that was horrible. Had to find a lay by and all I had was my jumper. Nice.

I'm confused by this whole buggy/pushchair thing. And I'm shocked at the cost of some of these. Ebay is full of them but the problem is I don't know what I'm looking for or what to avoid.

LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 09:54:56

Cata, I find it sooo confusing. Some of these things are over 500 new! I had no idea. Will see what friends say, but at the moment very tempted to just get a sling and a car seat, and then see what else I need when baby is here!

Trinpy Wed 16-Oct-13 11:04:27

When I spoke to my gp yesterday she said most women stop having morning sickness by 17 weeks, so still a little way to go yet!

I found going on mumsnet pram reviews really helpful to work out what's good and what's not.


LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 11:16:28

Did she give you something for it Trinpy, or are you going to try to manage without? Feel sad you still have it at nearly 16, that's a long time to cope! But you must be nearly there now xx

BeetleBeetle Wed 16-Oct-13 11:44:53

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LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 11:49:18

Oh no Beetle, sounds stressful. Though great news the twins seem fine and good news that the bleeding is from outside I guess - could just be a polyp or something? Do you know how long you will have to wait for the results?

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LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 13:37:43

You probably just need to catch a cold now, or break down in the car somewhere...

Sorry, not funny I realise. It does just sometimes feel like all the shitty stuff happens at once. I really hope nature has done with flinging hard stuff at you and it's down hill from here!

Hope the Consultant is reassuring. Is it worth actually trying to get properly horizontal inbetween i.e. in bed? Sometimes that seems to help me when the nausea is really horrible.

Trinpy Wed 16-Oct-13 17:08:44

Sorry to hear you've had to go through all of that beetle. Really good news though that the twins are still ok and cervix is closed. Hope theres some very ordinary, completely healthy explanation for the bleeding.

Light - Yes, she did prescribe me something but said she doesn't like prescribing them for pregnant women unless absolutely necessary, because no one knows for sure how safe they are. She said I could have them because I looked like death (thanks for that!), but with the promise that I would only take them on days when I really couldn't cope. She also helpfully told me that she managed to cope with sickness through both her pregnancies, which made me feel a bit rubbish, like I was giving in too easily sad .

LightTripper Wed 16-Oct-13 17:29:11

Trinpy, she sounds really patronising. Everybody's sickness is so different, and the demands of their life on any given day are also totally different, as is how supportive their partner can be based on the demands of his life, how many children you have, what kind of child care, etc. It just seems totally ignorant to say "I coped and herefore so can you".

And as for drugs, I hope (but doubt) doctors realise we are smart enough to know that there is no such thing as "absolute safety" in medicine, but actually a lot of these drugs have a lot of data to support that they are very likely to be safe. It just seems like in this country we have a totally risk averse view because of thalidomide - whereas in other countries Doctors have been prescribing things for years, resulting in the build up of good data that we could now use to do the same. You can make somebody aware that there is always a small risk involved without sending them on a massive guilt trip.

I have to say even though I have hardly taken mine at all except on the worst days, or when I have something big at work coming up that I cannot afford to throw up during, it means the world to me to know that they are there if I need them. So far I have taken 4 (the prescription is 3 a day) - but even though they only help postpone the vomiting, and do nothing for nausea, those 4 have been worth their weight in gold on the days when I needed them.

Gaargh... Sorry for the rant. This just makes me so angry. I hate being patronised, I'm really bad at just letting it go, although I'm trying to teach myself to do it!

So far luckily my GP, midwife and sonographer have been lovely and i haven't felt put down at all, but I guess I am kind of expecting to be a sitting duck while pregnant/vulnerable, because I have no idea what I'm doing so in the end I am going to be totally reliant on what others tell me to do. But I have already had advice from the midwife which I know is out of date with the latest research/government advice (re peanuts), so it doesn't exactly fill you with confidence. hmm

LeeHandy Wed 16-Oct-13 19:36:09

Sorry to hear that some of you are having a rubbish time with the sickness.
Cata, I agree with Trinpy, the mumsnet reviews on prams are pretty useful. the only thing I would also suggest is that you make a list of what you actually need from a stroller and then eliminate possibilities using the reviews. What happened to me is that reading all these reviews just made me aware of the shortcomings of every stroller! The only stroller that almost no one has anything bad to say about is the bugaboo chameleon. But it's so expensive, I think I will buy it second-hand off gumtree if I decide to get it.
I hope your tests turn out okay, beetle! It's very stressful to have all this happen, but I'm sure the fact that twins are still happy floating around is very reassuring. Good luck!
I finally did a whole round of maternity clothes shopping. At the moment, I'm still looking fat but I think I will get a proper bump in the next couple of weeks. I can't believe I am only 16 weeks now, it feels like I have been pregnant forever.
We had a sales conference last week and a cocktail making class after - it was awful to watch everyone guzzle lovely cosmopolitans while I was drinking ginger ale. envy

ChocChaffinch Wed 16-Oct-13 20:19:45

hop over to the hyperemesis support thread for ongoing puking, there are many website links and research that shows early treatment for nausea and vomiting is infinitely preferable.. and we've pooled our experience to generally discover GPs are shite in the area of pregnancy sickness...
hyperemesis and sickness thread

ChocChaffinch Wed 16-Oct-13 20:23:07

BTW I have hyperemesis...but have never had motion sickness or sea sickness etc
many of us on the pukers thread have discovered we had problems with the pill / hormonal contraception, though.. sensitivity to hormones could be part of the problem... but in the UK we'll never know as currentl pregnancy sickness isn't being researched. <sigh>

sorry for ranting!!

still liking mothercare's buggy travel system, but def. have posh pram envy, just absolutely could not afford

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 16-Oct-13 21:09:08

I do feel for you guys who are so ill I've been very lucky not too ill. im 15 weeks today and my smell senses have gone into overdrive can't stand certain smells

Bodeccia Wed 16-Oct-13 21:52:14

Sorry to hear of the strange bleeding, beetle, I hope it clears up quickly and your results are good news. Reassuring tho that your scan was fine and the twins are fine. Are they the same size, out of interest? Mine were both the same size at the 10 week (i.e. Mistake booking) and 12 weeks scan, and apparently its unusual, 63mm at 12 weeks.

I know what you mean about having enough surprises so far, I've only really just started feeling happy and excited about having twins, and I've known for about 6 weeks...


ChocChaffinch Wed 16-Oct-13 22:02:06

yes fingers crossed for you beetle

ThedementedPenguin Wed 16-Oct-13 22:38:02

Haven't had a catch up yet but I really could do with some advice.

Sorry for tmi but I'm really badly constipated. Have got lactalose (sp?) and am working on my diet as it's been awful this time. So anyways, I'm in agony, it hurts to breath sometimes, if I cough it hurts, burps. In general if I move at all I'm in pain.
So I've started the lactalose this morning after quick discussion with doctor. It says it can take a few days to work and to take 15mls twice a day. This morning I took 20mls, would it be okay if I took a bit more than that as I really need this sorted?
I'm really not sure I can wait a few days.

If anyone can help me quick I'd really appreciate it. Thanks

LightTripper Thu 17-Oct-13 07:11:37

Im sorry, I don't know Penguin, I've been right at the other end of the scale!! Why not ask on the Pregnancy board as there might be people who are further along who would know?

Hope you get some relief soon, and hoping you get some good answers today beetle

LightTripper Thu 17-Oct-13 08:29:28

Yesterday was a pretty amazing day for me.


Admittedly was home in bed by 8.30 and throwing up by 9, but still!! I went to this women's networking thing. I really didn't think I'd make it, but got to 4.30 (when I've usually been going home to beat the rush hour) and thought "actually I don't feel too bad". So gave it a go and it was all surprisingly fine! I think it will be really good timing for me too, as it is going to be quite hard to figure out work and baby, and most of the women there have kids already (and everybody else is planning kids I think) so will be really helpful to learn how they did it.

I'm trying not to get carried away into thinking this is the beginning of the end of the vomming (given I threw up at home straight after), but even if it was just a good blip it was so lovely to do something other than sleep - work - lie on sofa with bucket - repeat. Has really buoyed me up!

Hope today is a good day for all you ladies, especially beetle and penguin cake brew

BeansAndCheese Thu 17-Oct-13 08:47:03

Hi penguin. Lactulose kind of works from the top down, so it will take a while. Maybe speak to your gp about something like senna to get you started. Not recommended in pregnancy, but what is? I suffered when first bfing with dd. Had to disimpacted myself (sorry tmi). Really unpleasant. Remember drink way more than you usually would, if you can.

EerieCompadre Thu 17-Oct-13 08:56:50

Well hello everyone. I've only just come across this thread, but I'd love to join and share my woes of sickness and nausea and tiredness smile
I'm currently 12w6d, due on 25/04/14.

LightTripper Thu 17-Oct-13 09:15:05

Hello Eerie! Welcome to the thread. grin

BeansAndCheese Thu 17-Oct-13 09:16:24

Hi eerie!

Cannotbelieveit Thu 17-Oct-13 09:21:35

Welcome Eerie!

Good to see the last few scan pics on the fb page. Now we are all counting down to 20week scans and private 16/17 gender scans!

catameringue Thu 17-Oct-13 09:35:55

Oh Beetle what a stressful time. Hope you get some rest.

Lee - ok but what 'do' I need in a stroller? Something that takes you from new born to toddler is the only criterion I know. It seems second hand is still quite dear. It's like shopping for a car!

To my bunged up comrades, if I don't have allbran every day I'm the same. Unfortunately I've not had any all week.

Sickness is going down here but in fits and spurts.
Enjoyed a chinese last night which would have been impossible two weeks ago.

LightTripper Thu 17-Oct-13 09:41:52

Ooh, actually, I could probably join the FB group now my news is out (well, next week I can anyway). Could somebody tell me how to do it?

Trinpy Thu 17-Oct-13 10:27:14

Penguin - don't take more than recommended because it might end up being more than you need to get things going. You don't want to end up with uncontrollable diarrhea! Normally they tell you to start with a low dose and then they increase it or try something stronger if it's not working.

cata - what pram you need depends on where you're using it. If you are going to be taking it on rough terrain (country walks) then go for a 3 wheeler, if you live in the city then get something light and compact. If you use the car a lot get a travel system where you can attach a car seat and make sure it fits in the car boot. If you rely on public transport it's easier to have something you can fold with one hand. I've researched this a lot blush .

ThedementedPenguin Thu 17-Oct-13 10:31:32

I took 15mls extra yesterday, today I'll stick with the correct dose as I feel a good bit better today.

Cannotbelieveit Thu 17-Oc