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January 2014 (thread 9) Pregnancy half time is over. Fast growing bumps, braxton hicks and we thought we would worry less!

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Frizz1986 Wed 11-Sep-13 12:55:24

Hope its ok me setting up a new thread.
Couldnt see one, but if I am just being blind please tell me.....

Frizz1986 Wed 11-Sep-13 13:01:53

Noticed that the other thread had filled, and was like OMG we haven't started another one yet.
Hope I haven't totally missed one that has already been done.

Toby am very jealous of your bread. It is my weakness, but am looking forward to making home made pizza at the weekend when my best friend visits.
Haven't seen her since getting pregnant (schedule clashes as she lives near Leicester) so am looking forward to showing off my bump.
I love Waitrose too and would shop there all the time if I could. I had one back home that my mum used to go to for special occasions as the stuff is so nice and then last year 1 opened up north near me. Was so excited!!

I am planning on getting a flu jab and whooping cough.
You can get the flu jab as soon as your gps has it. I called mine last week and they don't have it in yet, but it is normally Sept/Oct time I am told.

Whooping cough is from 28 weeks so I have still got a while before I can have that one done.

Re: coats..... My winter one is starting to get a bit tight but really cant afford to get another one. Hope it holds out a bit longer but otherwise I will just wear it opened and hope I can make do.

TobyLerone Wed 11-Sep-13 13:23:30

Well done, Frizz! I noticed when I posted that I had xposted with a few people but didn't realise I was #1000! Then I noticed that the thread was full but didn't want to duplicate if anyone else had made one.

MrsAVB Wed 11-Sep-13 13:33:09

Yay for thread 9- well done frizz.
My winter coat just about does up at the moment. I will def need a coat of some sort as I walk everywhere. But wondering if some kind of swing/ empire line thing rather than a maternity coat would be better.
toby impressed with your cooking. I keep meaning to buy a cabbage but feel uninspired by them as they remind me of school dinners...
I am getting the jabs, annoyingly at my surgery I have to make a separate appointment to the midwife one though, which I know makes sense as injections aren't a good use of midwife time, but still annoying.

TobyLerone Wed 11-Sep-13 13:44:49

I love savoy cabbage and red cabbage. DD, who is a freak, likes horrid school white cabbage.

YY if you walk everywhere you're definitely going to need a coat. I'm super lazy and don't walk anywhere! Rugby is really the only time I will ever need a coat.

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 11-Sep-13 13:48:01

Yay new thread! smile

Sarah so glad to hear your niece's operation went well, everything crossed for continued improvement x

Short post as running round like a loon today, will look through and name check more later.

Dd1's first day at school, had to leg it to Croydon to pick up my Britax soft carrycot (£25 Ebay bargin) then back to pick her up. Now I have to get the train to my Dad's to test drive my new double buggy.

I have two maternity coats, one Mothercare second hand Ebay one for £10 which is thinner for autumn, but will fit a big jumper underneath. The other one is a thick SuriAjuni one that I had for dd2. She was born in February last year and it was great as it fitted over the sling wrap to keep her and me warm. I intend to baby wear a lot again so I am very glad I still have it.

MrsGSR Wed 11-Sep-13 15:00:07

I'm planning to get both jabs to, no idea how to go about getting them, I'll have to try and remember to ask my midwife. My next appointment is as 25 weeks so plenty of time smile

I have my exam next month, then a paediatric first aid course neurotic first time mum and then a few months of nothing but knitting smile

Glad to hear the surgery went well sarah, keeping fingers crossed she keeps improving x

TobyLerone Wed 11-Sep-13 15:10:45

I was thinking of doing a paediatric first aid course too, MrsG, and this is DC3 so you're not that neurotic grin

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 15:27:59

Yay thread 9! Thanks very much Frizz! Can't believe we have filled yet another one!

Sarah phew - thank goodness your niece is doing OK! Will keep everything crossed she will be properly on the mend soon!

Toby our issue is waste also, hence making a menu plan for the whole month and then sticking to it! We have tried doing this before but have then deviated when work gets in the way and it's then too late to cook, or we decide to be naughty and have a take away! This time we are sticking to it so far and have decided we will allow ourselves a take away on one night when we are really knackered and can't be arsed to cook! grin

I was wondering about coats too! My hoodie jumper still just about fits so am currently wearing that and will team it with a scarf and layer up a bit if needed and will only buy a coat if I really need one.

Am completely knackered today - two nights now where I have gone to sleep without a problem, but then DH has come to bed, woken me up and then I can't seem to get comfy again. Bump is too big now for me to lie on my back, but when I am lying on my sides I am getting really bad hip pain which is radiating down my legs! I peed three times and it was a relief to get up! I must have laid awake for about 4 hours last night! I have tried propping myself up and surrounding myself with pillows, but nothing so far has worked. I have just ordered an egg crate foam mattress topper as after frantic googling this was recommended. I will feedback how good it is once it arrives in case anyone else is suffering with the same at any point.... DH thought he would make a joke and say "don't worry, just a few more weeks to go!" Ummmm, try 15-17 weeks, so yes, just a few more.....

Wasn't expecting to start suffering with things like this yet, so it's a bit of a shock. Plus when I walk up the stairs, but the time I get to the top I sound as though I have been running due to heavy breathing! I mentioned it to the midwife this week and she said she would check my iron levels at the next appointment but if it gets really bad to see my GP. Well, I don't really know what counts as really bad, but it's just embarrassing at the moment! I answered the phone the other day and the person on the other end said "did I make you run?" I lied and said yes, because I couldn't admit the truth!!! blush

Right, back to work for the last slog....really struggling today. (Yawn!)

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 15:29:39

When I said I peed three times, I meant I got up to pee three times, not I peed in the bed three times! Things haven't got that bad yet! grin

MrsGSR Wed 11-Sep-13 15:32:13

That's reassuring Toby! DH has done first aid, but mainly battlefield first aid and I'm hoping we won't need that!

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 15:35:55

MrsG that made me laugh! That is definitely something I am interested in too. I bought some DVDs on babies, one of which is infant first aid, which is what attracted me.

MrsGSR Wed 11-Sep-13 15:36:12

sultana the stairs wears me out too! My iron levels were fine at my last appointment so I'm blaming low bp.

I also keep getting really dizzy and feeling like I can't get enough air. I have to lie down and breathe deeply for a few minutes until it wears off.

MrsGSR Wed 11-Sep-13 15:38:11

Thar reminds me sultana, the red cross have a load of first aid videos on their website, if I remember I'll put up a link when I get home (on my phone waiting for DH). I haven't watched any yet but they look quite good smile

MrsAVB Wed 11-Sep-13 16:07:19

another - I hadn't thought about a coat also being useful for wearing with baby in sling, thanks, now I have another good reason to buy one!
I find that we spend more if we meal plan, my approach is generally looking at what are the top 3 items going out of date in the fridge first and making something from them! And buying meat/ fish/ prawns in bulk and freezing in portions. And yellow label hunting - but only buying if its good enough value compared to what we normally buy.
sultana that sounds miserable! I normally sleep on my tummy and its only been the last 2 weeks or so I've not been able to. I think someone said before about wanting to cut a bump shaped hole in the mattress so they could still sleep on their tummy...smile. Getting out of bed/ from sitting is definitely more effort that usual too.
My cockwomble boss told me today that I definitely wasn't one of those women who just pops out at the front as I was getting big all over. "And you can see you're getting big from behind". Geez... Doesn't everyone know that's not what you say! And generally people have been saying I'm small! Pfft...

Hi all! Nice new thread.

I always mean to meal plan but it never quite happen. We live a two minutes walk from the shop which doesn't help. Will have to try harder on mat leave though, as we'll be skint.

Yes to peeing in the night. I'm usually up at least twice. With fecking pelvic pain too it's a wonder any sleeping at all happens. It's a bugger.

Naturegirl82 Wed 11-Sep-13 17:46:42

Just checking in. will try and catch up later. Currently traveling on the train which is causing major travel sickness. Definitely a low point for me throwing up in the train toilets! sad

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 17:59:13

mrsa I used to be a tummy sleeper and trained myself to sleep on my back. The sides are so uncomfortable! A bump shaped hole would be awesome, but would also need a hole for my boobs too now!grin

Omg I cant believe your boss! I mean, who says that? Like, ever? What a dick! You should have replied, "yes, but I can lose the baby weight, but u will always be a dick"! wink

mrsg I remember someone mentioning the red cross site.,Must remember to check it out...

nature I feel for u! Travel sickness is the worst! Poor u! Hope u dont have much further to go....thanks

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 18:00:35

enjoying remember its just a few more weeks to go! wink

Just about to venture out in the pissing rain! Joy! At least it will wake me up! grin

Mac2014 Wed 11-Sep-13 18:32:16

A quick rant to mark my place. Commuting cuntpuffins. Wearing a badge on the train home. Tool 30 minutes to get a seat, despite asking to take a priority seat. Acknowledged by lots of people with ridiculous eye contact then the raise of a book.

Hate them all.

And breathe.

TobyLerone Wed 11-Sep-13 18:39:59

Next time, sit on one of their knees. Just right on it. Please do this.

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 18:45:09

Oh mac I second Tobys suggestion! And please can I be there when u do it? grin

Toothfairy78 Wed 11-Sep-13 18:58:23

Hi just checking in.
Thanks for starting new thread frizz.

sarah glad to here your niece had a good op. Still rooting for her with everything crossed.

sultana good thing you clarified about getting up to go pee. I nearly sputtered my pitta and ketchup over the iPad!

Last night my slacking with housework finally caught up with us. DH discovered he was down to his last pair of clean underpants! Oops. Better go do some laundry. Then off to investigate the nappy nippas that arrived in the post to today...

sarahleanne Wed 11-Sep-13 19:29:49

mac please do what toby suggested. Absolutely hilarious grin

frizz well done on the new thread.none of us even mentioned we were getting close to the end , we were all too busy chatting away.

RE. first aid , luckily my old job I had to do yearly updates on first aid including babies so I am ok on that front.

Found out something today that I didn't realise. I never knew that you couldn't still be on annual leave once baby is born. So, I have moved my annual leave forward by two weeks as I have 6 weeks to take. Im now officially finishing work on the 2nd December smile.I do have a feeling I may get a bit bored though???

DH has ordered me a slow cooker. I'm off to research what stuff I can stick in it!

Frizz1986 Wed 11-Sep-13 20:08:23

yy to hip pains in the night. I have been getting them since about 14 weeks. First I could only sleep on my right side, but now I have had to shift to sleeping on my left as its my right that hurts. Am sure that soon it will revert to being the left that hurts again and I'll have to switch again!!
I seem to wake up at 4-5am to pee and I just wish I could hold it longer or be up at 1am as it just isn't nice knowing that I will only get an hours more sleep.
Is it stupid that I am worried as I havent needed to get up to pee for the past 3 nights!! So silly what I worry about.

mac I would be very very peeved indeed!

tooth luckily with dh being out of work atm I am making him keep the house clean. Its not going as well as I would like but he is trying (a bit)

mrsa cant believe your boss. That is very rude and he was lucky you didn't punch him.

I am at present searching for venues for our work xmas party.
I like doing all the researching so am getting some brochures printed to give to my boss. We are leaving it a little late though so worried that everything will be booked but we can only try.
The plan is to have it on 14th Dec so I will be huge!!

extracrunchy Wed 11-Sep-13 20:08:40


I wrote a long post in the old thread and then it was full and my post disappeared because I am a dumb ass. And also a bit high cos GP sorted me out with codeine for SPD (and physio) - was scared to take it but apparently it's safe and it definitely helps smile

Sarah brilliant to hear re your niece's successful op!

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 20:13:51

Lol tooth! grin

sarah yeah I moved mine back too - didnt want the hassle of sorting out with work cutting my hols short because bubs decides to surprise me with an early arrival! I dont think I will have a chance to get too bored - am hoping it will mean plenty of time to sort stuff for xmas, my Dads birthday and last minute bits for bubs, rather than the normal last minute rush....thats the plan anyway.....wink

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 20:18:31

frizz I had the lack of night peeing for a few days and got really worried and then it came back with a vengeance! Currently midnight, 3amish and 5.30am!!!

I feel for u with the hip pain. I had it a few weeks back so ended up on my back again, but thats just not an option now. Will let u know if this mattress topper makes any difference.

Sultanajo Wed 11-Sep-13 20:20:35

extra! meant to say enjoy your high! Thats great they have given you something to help. Really hope it does the trick!,grin

BuntCadger Wed 11-Sep-13 20:58:19

Hi everyone smile

Thanks frizz for starting this thread xx

Sarah still thinking of your niece x

Toothfairy78 Wed 11-Sep-13 21:23:21

I have meeting with bosses tomorrow to plan my mat leave. The aim is finish up 13 December and return late July.

frizz I have been getting up to pee every single night between 2.30 and 3.30, except 2 nights this week. Which made me worry a bit. Then last night a tiny little someone woke me up at 3.20 with some prods at the bladder!

sarah you got a slow cooker? I have 2, a family size one and a 1.5L one for just the two of us. My most recent discovery with it is butter cooked turkey. Just quarter some onions, chuck in a turkey leg with a load of butter (like half a pack) n herbs. Leave on low for several hours and you get juicy falling off the bone turkey! You can add carrots n tatoes 1 hr before the end too.

Love how slow cookers turn cheap meat into melt in the mouth niceness!

Next weekend I want to try turkey cooked with lardons.

And you can do really lazy risottos, amazing chilli, biryani, cakes...

Hungry now.

I love food grin

sarahleanne Wed 11-Sep-13 21:24:20

thankyou bunt and all the rest of you too.The update is she has now been moved to Leicester hospital. Will keep you all informed.

sultanajo you have just made me so excited because you reminded me it's actially Christmas BEFORE our babies arrive. I had totally forgot this!! I just sent a text to DH saying how happy I was I could do xmas shopping as soon as I go on maternity leave because I leave 2 days after payday!

I really don't think this baby will be early so I'm not too worried about losing/having to carry over annual leave. I've neve gone into labour by myself but then again, could be 3rd time lucky I suppose.

sarahleanne Wed 11-Sep-13 22:19:13

argh sorry tooth ive only seen your post just then.I'm going to try risotto and I love chilli and chilli con carne.Although I am vegetarian which is a pain as everyone else eats meat in the family. maybe I will need 2 slow cookers aswell? grin

BuntCadger Thu 12-Sep-13 10:14:20

My 3rd was my quickest labour so far Sarah, I need membrane ruptured with other 2 ;)

I'm feeling very fat at mo sad don't like any maternity clothes I own and just feel huge. I know it all part of it and I love I'm pg but I'd got down to pre preg size for first time since (eldest is 13y) and now I feel gross. hmm

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 10:38:49

I'm with you, Bunt. I don't ever remember feeling this...cumbersome. Mind you, I wasn't this old last time!

hello everyone!

glad to see scans have been going well and that you're feeling better toby. i've been AWOL for a few threads but now reporting for duty. DD has started school shockand the flat is almost inhabitable. the people staying while we were gone left us bedbugs, black mould and general grossness. they also broke all the expensive dishes i liked but not the cheap ones i hated. grrrr.

thnking of your niece sarah and praying for her recovery.

we had tye 2nd trimester scan last week and...it's a boy! everyone we've told seems gutted. my dad said "Oh! Welll, as long as it's healthy i suppose." grin

forgot to say, I am also massive and cumbersome and generally feeling embarrassed. too many crisps. baby also small for dates so no excuse!

i too have hip pain while sleeping and had it with DD too when i wasnt so huge so i guess it just comes with the territory. went away after the birth though.

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 11:27:50

shock altered! What a horrible PITA to come home to sad

Congratulations on being Team Blue. Secretly I hope I join you!

Spacefrog35 Thu 12-Sep-13 11:58:40

altered your dad sounds just like mine! Made me chuckle.

Have total sympathy with everyone feeling fat. I still don't really have a bump to speak of I've just got 'thick' around the middle and a bit bulgy. I've always been bigger but at least before I had a waist so I could dress nicely, now I just feel frumpy. Only style that works is empire line but I don't have any clothes that work in this weather! Humph. Might go eat cake at least if I'm going to look like I have I might as well get the pleasure of it!

Yay for boys altered

So sorry about your flat though. Bedbugs are an utter fucker to get rid of. Do you have to stay there?

I'm fat as a cow, and only 22 weeks. What the hell am I going to look like come 30 weeks? Eek. I was quite compact first time round, but was also 25 and a lot a bit fitter.

Frizz1986 Thu 12-Sep-13 13:00:21

I am huge but kinda loving it. My bump feels pretty solid and I don't look that pregnant from the front so it seems to be all going in the same area which makes me very fortunate (I expect it will pile on around the sides soon enough)
Was rather skinny to begin with and had almost started to get a bit of a problem with my food/eating as I was so determined to stay skinny (after losing 4 stone) that I think I took it too far and was on the brink of something bad.
Pregnancy has really changed that tho. I love my changing shape and at the moment am not even bothered when people say "wow your bump is growing more and more every day"
I expect by the end I will want to slap them but just feeling pretty happy in my skin at the moment.
And the weight will come off eventually......... I hope!

Yay for a boy altered and for a good scan. I am still adament that we are blue, but got another 17 weeks to wait to find out.
Sorry about your place though. Some tenants can really suck.

sarah glad she has been safely moved. Still thinking of you all and hoping for the best.

toby I have a slow cooker and love it especially in winter. Its so nice coming home from work to yummy smells. I normally do a stew or there is a lush 16 hour lamb i have done before which is just a leg of lamb and a lot of garlic left for ages....(can't remember if you put a drop of stock in or not)

sultana I am hoping mine doesnt arrive early. I am planning on taking my hols from 23rd Dec and that will take me to Jan 2nd so can start mat leave then. Bubs isn't due til 10th so hoping thats ok. Just really want bubs to arrive on time (ish) and naturally as I dread a cs.

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 13:12:18

I'm currently experimenting with parsnip and cheese bread. No idea how it'll turn out, as I had to faff with it a bit. And we're having black bean, chilli and chocolate soup for dinner. Bit of a gamble, but it's not like I don't have time on my hands hmm

I've also spent the whole morning on the phone to insurance companies and the car dealership, trying to get things sorted to pick the car up on Saturday. Who knew buying a new car was so hard?!

Sultanajo Thu 12-Sep-13 14:41:59

OK, lots to catch up on.

Firstly anyone with hip pain at night, I folded up a duvet and slept on it last night and it did help a bit, so I am hopeful the egg crate mattress topper will be good also - will keep you posted.

Sarah that's great your niece has been moved - still keeping everything crossed for her! Yeah, I too forget it's actually Christmas - am due on 27th December, so I really must ensure I don't forget about Christmas entirely because unless bubs is early, it will be our last without bubs!

Bunt I too am feeling fat and self conscious have now put on 11.5lbs (was overweight to start with) so it doesn't make me feel great, especially as I worked so hard last year to lose weight for my wedding. However, am thinking in approx 15 weeks it will start coming off again - this isn't forever! So am keeping that in the back of my mind, every time I have a fat uncomfortable moment! wink

Altered that royally sucks about your flat! What a total fucker! Your scan news is however great news! Another boy! Hurray! I am actually getting really excited now about our bubs being a boy - so I am really pleased I found out because now I am just getting curious as to what he looks like! Plus I am really growing to love the name that I think we are finally sticking with, so that's a bonus!!!

Space I am loving the "may as well eat cake if I look fat anyway" attitude! grin

Om nom nom nom! The slow cooker recipes are making me dribble! Garlic lamb! YUM! Must make sure I remember not to eat anything after 8.30pm and just drink water, as have the GTT tomorrow morning! Ekkkk! Will finally know if it is the dreaded diabetes or I just have a chunky monkey! Really hope either way I get another scan just to check - it's making me really worried he won't fit down the birth canal or will get stuck which is one of my biggest fears. Just want him out safely!

Frizz I don't dread a CS. One of my other biggest fear is going overdue (which probably will happen as it's my first). There is a reason for this fear, but I am not going to share it as I can't even bear to think of it, let alone put it in writing, but it's because of something that happened to a friend of mine. I know it's unlikely to happen to me, BUT when it has happened to someone you know it very much makes it feel like a real possibility.... Therefore I would rather have a CS and know he is out safely than risk something happening to him. Really must be positive, but I know if I go overdue I will be a total wreck!!! Deep breaths Sultana - 15 more weeks before you need to start worrying about that! Many more things to worry about before! wink

Toby chocolate and chilli soup sounds interesting! You will have to let us know how that one turns out....! OMG buying a new car is FULL of hassle! Not as bad as moving house/planning a wedding, but I would say it's probably in the top ten of stress causing activities! Hope you get it all sorted!

Well I am a lucky little Sultana and have finished work for the week! Hu-frickin-ray! Just 9 more weeks left of work! Woop woop! The ad for my job went out this week so just praying decent people apply for it! Should find out next week who has gone for it (if anyone)....

AnotherStitchInTime Thu 12-Sep-13 15:11:57

Had anomaly scan today, all is well with the baby. We are in the pee in the eye crew, team blue as I predicted.

The bad news is that I have placenta previa which may or may not move out of the way, so I have to get scanned again at 28 weeks. There is a risk of bleeding and will have to be admitted if I do. NO SEX UNTIL AFTER THE BABY UNLESS IT MOVES AARRGH!!!!

Sarah glad to hear your niece has been safely moved.

Tooth I have a slow cooker, but it just sits in the cupboard, I think it is due a resurrection, must get a cook book to give me inspiration.

Congrats on your boy altered. That sucks about the bed bugs though, make sure you get the proper treatment, I know a few people who have had them, they are difficult to get rid of without several visits from the pest control experts.

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 15:22:19

No sex, Another? Bad times sad

Good luck with your GTT, sultana. Hope it's not too awful. Have a lovely long weekend smile

sarahleanne Thu 12-Sep-13 15:42:39

hiiiii everyone!

toby please stop making me jealous with your brand new car talk ha ha . I would quite happily go through hassle if I get a new car at the end of it. Mine is an absolute shit tip at the moment grin.Should have learnt my lesson not to drive with packets of crisps on my lap! they are now all over the floor

another no sex? I never got told this when I had DS and placenta praevia? Possibly because I was on my own then though and not with anybody. If it makes you feel better I am on 'no sex' too because DH is away hmm.

altered congrats on your boy secretly jealous boys are soooo lush!! And that's coming from someone who has one of each don't tell DD I said that grin

bunt your 3rd was your quickest? That's so what I wanted to hear, thankyou! Hopefully this one will just slide out ha ha lovely thought. If I have to be induced again I am going to cry!!

oh just had a text from DH , he is home tomorrow .smile Probably not for long though hmm.

update on niece- she's doing fab!! Im so proud of her the little fighter.She must of had a guardian angel watching over her to fall 5 floors and survive. They took her off sedation and she tried pulling her tubes out grin. So bloody pleased. Her oxygen is back up to 88% so she's definitely getting there now.Thanks for all your support.

sarahleanne Thu 12-Sep-13 15:43:22

I just realised how many faces I used in that oh dear

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 15:52:55

sarahl, if you will agree to take my DH to the station every morning, pick him up every evening, and take DS to rugby twice a week, you can have the car grin

That's such great news about your niece! I'm so pleased to hear that!

AnotherStitchInTime Thu 12-Sep-13 15:59:54

Brilliant news Sarah smile

I think the no sex rule is because I have major placenta praevia (it completely covers the cervix) and have had two previous c-sections so have a higher chance of placenta accreta. I didn't see the consultant though, just the registrar so I am hoping when I do see the consultant that she might relax the rule if I don't have any bleeding.

MrsGSR Thu 12-Sep-13 16:02:11

Sarah so glad to hear your niece is doing so well!

Yay for more boys! But boo to no sex and bad tennents sad

I hope you manage to get all the car stuff sorted Toby!

I might have to buy a slow cooker reading all these ideas! Yum! DH got home tuesday but is going away again on Sunday so we're treating ourselves to a Chinese tonight smile
DHs brother is coming to stay this weekend with his girlfriend, I'm very excited as I love them both, but we're in the middle of a spring (autumn?) clean so everything is everywhere. DH wants to sort through everything and throw out a load but I think it's all going to have to go back in cupboards for now!

Sultanajo Thu 12-Sep-13 16:37:31

another hurray for peeing in the eye group! Boo for no sex....

sarah thats amazing news about your niece! grin

Thanks toby. Looking forward to what I hope will be a chilled weekend! Ah bliss!

TarkaTheOtter Thu 12-Sep-13 18:40:43

A no sex rule wouldn't make a difference in this house at the moment. Too tired and everytime I start to feel interested DH does something incredibly irritating and the moment passes grin

Am so fed up of having gestational diabetes now. I was only diagnosed at 28 weeks last time so had 10 weeks of it. This time round it's ALREADY been nearly 10 weeks. I want chocolate. And not the one tiny piece I could probably get away with, a whole kg bar. Ridiculously, so long as they fit under my bump, my pre-pregnancy clothes are now way too big so I suppose I'll appreciate it once the baby is here.

Has anyone noticed a boy/girl trend in Jan yet? Seem to be lots more boys than girls or is that just me? My intuition is telling me I'm having a boy this time but we didn't find out.

sarah glad your niece's operation went well and the transfer to Leicester has gone/is going smoothly.

Toothfairy78 Thu 12-Sep-13 18:54:25

sarah wonderful news about your niece! Still willing her on to keep on recovering here! You can use as many smilies as you jolly well please.

Today I had my meeting about my mat leave. It was nice to told how vital I am to the team. Bosses have decided not to hire anyone to cover my work as by the time they got them anywhere near trained up, I'll have returned anyway. So it'll be a case of seeing what the business can wait 7 months for and divvying up the rest. Was also asked if there was anything I needed, to let them know if they're piling too much on me and was everyone treating me OK and to let them know if anyone wasn't. Was half tempted to take advantage and mention the stupid irritating twunt who's been snubbing me for several weeks (his own stuff up) needed sorting out, but decided not to. Would've been too easy. Even my own boss who's a lovely guy has started wearing headphones in order to drown him out!

It's a real novelty for my bosses as there are so few women in my department and they haven't had anyone go on mat leave for nearly a decade!

Oh, someone in another division came to me for help today. They wanna borrow me before I go on leave cos it's mega urgent. Have work spilling out of every orifice already. Just as well my hormones have effect of me not really giving a @?*!...Well, it's nice to be wanted I guess!

lovelilies Thu 12-Sep-13 19:05:27

Just checking in, moved house and had no internet for nearly 3 weeks!!! shock

MrsGSR Thu 12-Sep-13 19:12:54

Hope the move went well love!

tarka I think there's more boys than girls on here. I'm also the only person I know in 'real life' that's due with a girl, and I know 7 other people due at the end of this year/beginning of next!

curlywurlyllass Thu 12-Sep-13 20:32:52

Marking my place after a stressful few weeks. All is well with the wee fellow now being quite active another team blue flag here

Will take me a while to catch up from the last thread but hope you are all well, keeping fit with the toilet trips through the night - my loo is downstairs and i swear one day i will tumble there half asleep!

Sarahl good to hear your niece is on the mend

Hi to everyone :D

TobyLerone Thu 12-Sep-13 20:37:51

Oh, curly, it's lovely to have you back with us smile Glad all is ok.

Hope the move went well, love.

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 07:11:09

tarka your post has made me want my test results to be negative even more! grin Hang in there! You can do it!

tooth as hectic as things are for you at work, that must have been really nice to hear. They often dont realise what they have got until its preggers and walking out the door!

Hey curly! Great to hear things are good!

Glad you survived the house move love!grin

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 07:14:29

mrsg my two mates who are preggers,in RL arent finding out what they are having. I would love them both to be boys so they could all be the three musketeers! I know a few people with boys already, but it would be nice knowing some his age right from the start.

Starting to stress - DH has been hogging the shower and I need to leave for the hospital in 45 mins and still have to wash, dry and straighten my hair!!! confused

AnotherStitchInTime Fri 13-Sep-13 07:28:17

Sultana Run the hot taps elsewhere in the house, he will soon get out grin

I have not managed to have time to straighten my hair since dd1 was born. My morning routine consists of brushing teeth and hair, checking I don't have a crusty face, stains or vomit anywhere then running out of the door!

love glad the move went well.

curly good to here all is well, nice to have you back smile

Tooth that sounds stressful, but at least they are supportive and recognise your worth.

Tarka no chocolate sad Can you have diabetic chocolate, or is it dreadful?

thanks toby! having a boy will be an adventure, def not looking forward to the peeing!

going to try and register at a hospital for the birth today. should have done it months ago but i wasn't sure where i'd be and now everywhere is full. bleurgh. anyone given birth in paris before? i'm expecting to have a fight in my hands about not wanting an epidural. worried they'll stick one in me and i'll go proper batshit crazy on them...i hate feeling restricted.

also totally breaking own commitments about not buying stuff. all second hand, but still...our flat is 30m square and we already have dd. so far got a lot of winter babygros and cardigans, a carrycot/moses basket thing which slots onto a pram base and a bouncy chair. still the sling, nappies, muslin squares and bodysuits to get.

Spacefrog35 Fri 13-Sep-13 07:51:20

So much news from everyone, struggling to keep up so yay, boo, hugs, - please delete as applicable.

Nice to have you back curly

Had a wobble at DH last night. There was a lady & a small person on train home last night & small cried non stop for 45 min journey. Felt sorry for her, irritated by crying, irritated by the comments other commuters were making and ended up convincing myself that Pootle & I will never be able to go out in public in case one of us embarrasses ourselves.

I know a few of you have dc's already, how do you cope with horrible people who have no right to pass judgement doing it anyway?

extracrunchy Fri 13-Sep-13 08:33:48

Space - judgy people will judge whatever you do. Just ignore! The best you can do is your best smile

Frizz1986 Fri 13-Sep-13 08:56:44

welcome back curly

I am def sensing a lot more boys so far.
The last 2 people at my work to have babies had boys as did my sister and my cousin. Would be nice to add a girl but still think its a boy. Keep saying 'him' as well as I just don't like using 'it'

Dh felt a huge kick last night which was really nice. Hoping it makes him smile during the tough times at the moment.

tooth thats good to know how valued you are. I don't think you ever really find out if your work appreciates you unless you are leaving for something.

My boss hasnt even passed my letter and MATB1 form over to the HR guy yet (its only a small family business tho so he does know I am going) as she is a bit in denial I think. She keeps having dreams that I tell her I don't want any maternity leave!!

I have advised them that I want the full allowance as I think its easier to go for the maximum (as then I know what I can have) and then I can just give them 8 weeks notice to return earlier.
The girl who is currently on mat leave has been nagged about when she is back and if she is back and I just don't want to have to deal with that.
Anyway my boss turned round and said if you text or call and say you want to come back then ill let you back the next day lol.

They haven't even started planning my cover yet either as another girl has handed in her notice so we have to have a complete switch around to cover her work, plus hire someone new to fill the empty spot then they can finalise my cover.........Have a feeling that I am going to be manic right until the end.

Does everyone have a diabetes test?? Or is it only people with history of it?
Its something that I have read a bit about what it is but not if everyone gets tested for it.
I really won't be looking forward to the not eating bit. I love food and am always hungry (sometimes to the point of feeling sick) by about 11am.

Oh and on no sex.....Me and dh have only partaken once since finding out. I struggled before ttc (psychological I think) so i was in rather a lot of pain. Everything wasn't stretching how it should (sorry tmi).....
Anyway I had to get some things to "stretch" myself before we tried anything and eventually all was ok, but after not doing anything for ages things have tightened a bit again (i think its all nerves due to the pain previously) so we have only tried it once.
And now bubs is moving more I am worried that it will freak me out a bit!!

Oh and I really need to work on pelvic floor stuff. Have been bad and only remembered to do it recently and have only been doing 8 reps (holding for 10secs) once/maybe twice a day. I am guaranteed to be the accidental pee lady blush

Frizz1986 Fri 13-Sep-13 08:57:25

oh and space let people judge all they want. You will know all is ok so they can just keep their mouths shut!

TobyLerone Fri 13-Sep-13 08:57:35

Ignore them! It's all you can do. I never feel irritated by babies crying since I had mine. I just feel a lot of sympathy for the parents.

TobyLerone Fri 13-Sep-13 09:00:37

Frizz, I don't know much about this, and feel free to tell me to STFU, but wouldn't a bit of 'stretching' be a good idea before a baby has to come out of there?

extracrunchy Fri 13-Sep-13 10:31:35

Oh god you've just reminded me of perineal massage/stretching to avoid tears... Had forgotten. Google it!

MrsGSR Fri 13-Sep-13 11:52:14

Good to have you back curly smile

From reading threads on here it really does seem like strangers in public will judge you for everything! I think the best thing to do is just develop a thicker skin! (which I'll definitely have to do as I take everything personally)

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 12:29:10

Omg extra I had forgotten about that! Does it really work? Beginning to shit myself at the thought of pushing this wriggly monkey out!

Well made it thru the GT test - the sugary drink was nasty and gave me horrendous heartburn. The rennies in my bag were calling me but I wasnt allowed to take them. sad They will only call with results if its positive, so praying for no phone call. wink

Bubs got a massive sugar rush and for the first time I could actually see my tummy jumping as he moved. At one point he was kicking so high up under my right boob, that he made my boob jump several times! grin Hilarious!

Have had lunch and feeling human again now! grin Apparently Peter Andre was at the hospital doing a piece for This Morning - the nurse kept telling me to hang around at the entrance cos thats where he would be. Well Im sorry Pete, but food and drink were my top priority! grin

I too am gonna have to grow a thick skin and a dont give a shit attitude! Am particularly worried about breast feeding in public....but gonna force myself out there and just do it! Come on sultana! You can do it! grin

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 12:32:06

frizz as far as I am aware not everyone has the diabetes test. The only reason I was referred for it was because bubs abdomen was large at the 20 week scan.....

If the results are negative, then I guess I wont be getting another scan. However, I am paranoid now that his abdomen is gonna remain huge, so may go for a private scan to just check it....hmm

Frizz1986 Fri 13-Sep-13 12:50:05

toby you are totally right that 'stretching' will be good for the labour and I am all planned for slowly stretching things out in preparation. I think I am more concerned that I will push it all too fast so that we can have sex and get dh all ready to go before everything has stretched enough for it not to hurt. And then it will either hurt (which will make me nervous again and it will become an awful cycle) or ill have to turn him down which is pretty difficult/unfair to do when we have already started!!!lol
It just sucks that I really have to plan our bedroom antics way in advance.
Must do it though so dh doesn't feel starved!! Feel like a bit of a bad wife blush

TarkaTheOtter Fri 13-Sep-13 13:08:38

I think the criteria for the diabetes test are: bmi>30?, close relative with diabetes, previous large baby, certain ethnic backgrounds, repeated glucose in urine samples.

Sadly diabetic chocolate is 1. Disgusting and 2. Still quite high too high in carbs for pregnant diabetics.

It's not all bad though. It has made me have to eat so much better. I never got that massive feeling with dd even right at the end. I just looked like pre-pregnant me with a watermelon up my jumper which meant I was still really mobile.

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 13:30:56

tarka every cloud.....grin

frizz poor you. That sucks! How stressful for u but it sounds as though you have a good plan of action and need to take things at your own pace, so it doesnt become a mental block.....

The egg crate foam mattress topper has just arrived but it smells vile! Gonna try airing it out! envy

Spacefrog35 Fri 13-Sep-13 13:31:05

sultana the thought of your jumping boobs just made me snort my drink over my computer blush

Arf at jumping boobs. Sounds like baby enjoyed the sugary drink! Hope the result comes back ok.

I've taken the plunge and bought some baby things. Hanging on and waiting to move is taking too long, so we now have a baby bath, crib and mattress (in box - I'm not that organised) and a new changing mat in a pile in the spare room.

I've also started a new stash of cloth nappies, which is very exciting, but highly addictive. Will need to keep a lid on it!

Frizz, we've hardly done it at all. Hormones kill my libido, and DP is a bit weirded out by the bump. It was the same with DS, but we got back on track eventually (as the new bump is testament to!). Don't feel like a bad wife!

enormouse Fri 13-Sep-13 14:18:10

Hi everyone! Been away for a bit and lost the previous thread.

MrsAVB Fri 13-Sep-13 15:25:22

Afternoon all!
Meant to say this before but Argos have a baby sale on at the moment and they have those full body length pillow for preggos at half price, £12.49 I think, plus tens machines with £5 off and loads of other stuff.
Does anyone have maternity tights recommendations? I bought some blooming marvellous ones from mothercare, in the smallest size, and despite being taller than average and having longer legs than average they are still too saggy in the legs - but fit really well round bump.

I bought some H&M ones which are tiny! I'm usually a medium, so thought that would equate, but they are halfway down my legs sad

Maybe we should swap grin

This is the best thing in argos, surely? www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/207612.htm

I've reserved a pillow though - fingers crossed for some sleeeeep!

MrsAVB Fri 13-Sep-13 16:40:37

Hahaha... I can't believe there's a market for maternity witch costumes!

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 16:47:19

Thats hilarious! Bring on halloween! Dont know how I have managed all this time without that costume! grin

Hmmmm, may have to look into the full body pillow....

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 16:51:12

Ok body pillow ordered - will go and collect it tonight! Heres to a fabulous nights sleep ladies! grin

BookTart Fri 13-Sep-13 18:24:18

I am now sad that I have shunned a fancy dress wedding science - I could have worn that beauty! Instead I'm stuck with a boring maternity dress.

Gah, work is being a bit tricky. Everyone has just assumed that I'll be going back, and so they are all being lovely and making my job permanent before I go on leave and making the job description more interesting and planning to recruit maternity cover. It'll be super-awkward when I tell them I'm not coming back! I keep being asked to apply for a promotion as well, even though I'm off on mat leave in December. Starting to feel a bit bad! Is giving up work a terrible thing to do? Will I regret it?

Sorry to hear about the GD tarka. What a pisser about the chocolate being so grim sad

lovelilies Fri 13-Sep-13 18:54:48

Right ladies, I'm having serious lady garden issues....
not allowed to immac when pg, shaving is difficult and spiky bits ugh, been considering a wax but I'm a wax virgin (apart from eyebrows)... grin
How are you all managing this dilemma? wink

Frizz1986 Fri 13-Sep-13 18:57:26

I am currently still in some normal thick tights but my thin ones fall down from my bump. Got some mat leggings from asos but they fit nice around the legs but are baggy around my back at the top of the bump. Maybe should have gone for a small but it said medium because i am tall. Really hope i fit them soon as cant really afford to get any more and my whole plan was leggings under baggy dresses/long tops.
I have a full body pillow from my sister but it hasn't stopped me from aching. I did start using it at 14 weeks to get into the habit so it would prob be a lot worse without it. It def makes it amusing getting back into bed after peeing as you have to navigate the pillow lol.

book i wouldn't worry about not going back. I will prob have to go back but would rather not. I will def have to work as cant afford to be a SAHM (would love it beyond anything if i could be) but as i am getting rid of my car in Dec, for me to go back to where i am we would have to get me another car (2nd hand) but it might not be something we can afford so i might have to find a different job. I am of course telling my bosses when they ask that i don't think i can afford to not return. Therefore i am not lying but as my boss is convinced that i really want to come back its best to keep it that way. Always good to leave the door open!

Toothfairy78 Fri 13-Sep-13 19:39:40

Lady garden issues? Being a hardened waxer of many years have been hot waxing til recently. Now it's trimming and the epilator, just cos it's less hassle and bump is beginning to get in way!

I do like those immac bikini strips. They really grip everything and give a neat finish. I use the when I can't be bothered or when travelling. Should be good for a newbie waxer and they come with wipes for afterwards. Just remember to trim first!

Naturegirl82 Fri 13-Sep-13 19:41:11

love I'm being waxed. It hurt the first time (but got through it and full leg wax) second time was a lot less painful. I'm going to stick with it as the more you have the less it hurts.

I had to buy a new coat only because I forgot to pack one when going away with work. Don't know how long it will still fit but does up over the bump at the moment.

My GTT came back fine thankfully. A little surprised by that as I had insulin resistance before. Bit worried I will still get it as I was tested early though I'm sure I'm just being a worry wort!

sultanajo fx yours comes back ok. Your jumping boobs made me laugh grin

Bubs has been very active this week. Even felt a few high kicks and seen tummy move.

Need to go bra shopping again tomorrow. Getting very uncomfortable by the end of the day.

I'm finding sleeping ok. No pains here (apart from stiff neck from sleeping funny!). Even managing not to get up to pee. Unfortunately puppy has started waking in middle of night so not having undisturbed sleep sad

sarah still thinking of your niece.

That's really all I can remember. Been a manic week at work as I've been away. Also some restructuring going on which is a little disconcerting. My role is fine but makes for an uncomfortable atmosphere at the moment. sad So glad it's the weekend

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 19:53:04

frizz I am with u! I am doing the same but deep down hoping I can think about at least dropping some hours.....would love to be a SAHM....I dont think I would regret it book if we could afford for me not to go back....

love I have been shaving blind about once a week for swimming - its a challenge and a tad dangerous! I have heard others saying how painful waxing is in pregnancy and I find it horrendous normally and I would worry the pain would make me pee myself! Soooo not worth it! blush I am struggling even more with sorting out my ever growing toe nails!

Collected the argos body pillow. Its smaller than it looked in the pic, but will see how it goes tonight....grin

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 20:00:47

nature and tooth you are both well ard! grin Putting me very much to shame with my wussiness! blush

nature so glad your results were negative. Dont think we will ever stop worrying!

flyawayblue Fri 13-Sep-13 20:07:33

Wanted to pop in and say hello to you all. I'm due 15th January and expecting a baby girl smile

Still really tired all the time which is irritating and makes it hard to do things.

Has everyone got things sorted now? Rooms set up for example.

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 20:10:35

Congrats flyaway! Have now bought most of the large items but they are all still in their boxes....

Spacefrog35 Fri 13-Sep-13 20:13:10

I've never been brave enough to wax but I'm going to have to try soon, been shaving as normal but my skin has gotten so sensitive & I'm getting awful itchy rashes blush. Might give those strips a try, thank you whoever recommended them.

Definitely a thank chrunchie it's Friday day today, although why does the smelly weirdo on the train always sit next to me confused

Toothfairy78 Fri 13-Sep-13 20:15:29

Say has anyone been getting cramp at all?

I have had cramp maybe only a handful of times ever in my life. This past week I've been woken up by cramping calf muscle 3 times! I'm eating a banana a day and religiously taking mum-to-be vits.

Any tips?

Naturegirl82 Fri 13-Sep-13 20:29:29

No advice tooth but I feel your pain. I've been getting calf cramp for the past few months.

MrsAVB Fri 13-Sep-13 20:31:40

love I am embracing the hairy foof as was having the same dilemma... and trimming with scissors, not ideal but I can't be bothered with anything else.
frizz I got mat leggings from new look, they were in a mat basics pack with a bump band and vest, the leggings and bump band are both really good.
book I am in a similar position at work, I prob won't go back but want to leave the door open to if I change my mind, but feel bad about not being entirely honest. But they have been pretty crappy about mat stuff so I don't feel too bad.
tooth I've had calf cramp pretty much from the start, usually at night, and haven't found a cure. Midwife did recommend potassium high foods; bananas, tomatoes and apparently chocolate! Good excuse!

Sultanajo Fri 13-Sep-13 20:49:03

mrsa loving the excuse for chocolate!

For cramp I have read that avoiding pointing your toes in bed is meant to help. I have thankfully so far only had it a couple of times but can really sympathise with those suffering as it was mega painful!!!

Have put the egg crate foam mattress topper on the bed and tested it - feels really comfy so I am hopeful it will help. Got my body pillow too - am actually looking forward to bed tonight. If the heartburn would now just do one I would be a happy sultana! grin

chocoloulou33 Fri 13-Sep-13 21:12:02

Hello ladies. Not sure if anyone remembers me but I was around a lot in the first 12 weeks. I had a mumsnet break as was having some problems and just shut myself away from everything and didnt want to talk about it at the time. Basically suffer from major anxiety and have panic attacks etc. The pregnancy seemed to make me 10 times worse as I had been fine for so long. Am off my meds obviously being pregnant and didnt want to go back on them. Anyway got rly low for a month or so and have been a nightmare to live with. Poor OH lol. Last few weeks have been so much better and think I'm finally turning a corner. Just feel so guilty feeling like this as am so happy to be pregnant but my body thinks otherwise hmmm.
Have had a little read and trying to keep up with u all again lol. Missed u guys. Im 23 weeks now with a little boy. Really need to start buying soon. I kept everything from my daughter but wont be able to use a lot of that haha x

Welcome flyaway! Does having a small ile of boxes count as having a room ready grin

Nice to see you back choco, and glad you are feeling a bit more on an even keel.

Mythreeknights Fri 13-Sep-13 22:31:22

Hi another well it's you and me with the placenta praevia then! I am not being re scanned until 32 weeks so its interesting that you are being re scanned at 28. I had a low placenta with my last pg and it did move up on its own, but it is a real shame to not have nookies until it is safe. I am also fearful as a friend had the same and her dd was born at 27 weeks with an abrupted placenta...luckily she was in hospital at the time so they saved both lives. Anyhow...not to be too dramatic or anything, but I wanted to shout out and say you are not alone!

AnotherStitchInTime Fri 13-Sep-13 22:52:28

Hey Mythree, it is scary, but most placentas do move unless like me you have had previous c-sections then it is 50/50. I also have a 40% chance of placenta accreta due to my history so that is why they are doing a 28 week scan as well as 32 weeks. This RCOG guide explains it nicely.

Frizz1986 Fri 13-Sep-13 23:04:55

Welcome to the thread flyaway and lovely to see you back choco

Another boy and girl to add to the numbers....

Dont worry choco you have just missed us freaking out about a large variety of things, but i think most of us are starting to feel a little bit more comfortable in our pregnancy skins! We are now onto back aches, cramps, peeing lots, lady gardens..... Lol

MrsGSR Sat 14-Sep-13 07:00:14

Welcome & congrats flyaway, I'm due 15 with a girl to!

Welcome back choco smile

Panicked a bit yesterday as didn't feel baby much, only for her to be very active as I was falling asleep smile

MrsVDB Sat 14-Sep-13 07:02:11

Checking in from Bali!! Baby is very active last few days! Also didn't think through the sunbathing on my front situation. Still doing it but a bit to the side and don't think it makes baby too happy as feel him squirming!!

Naturegirl82 Sat 14-Sep-13 07:59:10

Well last night was a bit of a disaster. Dh was up most of the night being sick and puppy woke at 2.30 and 5! sad Managed to get puppy to settle back down pretty quick which was good. Just going to view it as practice!

Sultanajo Sat 14-Sep-13 08:29:58

mythree fingers firmly crossed the odds work for you and it moves up out of the way.

choco course we remember u! You would be so proud of us chatting so much we forgot to set up a new thread until we had already reached 1000! wink Great to hear you have turned a corner. Horrible feeling so out of control... Yay another little boy!,grin

Sultanajo Sat 14-Sep-13 08:31:50

mrsv get u in Bali! Are u having a fab time? Really want to be chilling by a pool right now....well jel! wink

nature what a lovely night for u! sad Is DH any better this morning? Glad pupster settled quickly - very much good practice for whats to come. grin

Sultanajo Sat 14-Sep-13 08:41:07

mrsg they just love scaring the shite out of us dont they! Not much movement this end this morning and jumped on the scales to find I had lost 2lbs also and (tmi) much larger amount of discharge this morning....that surely cant just be because I didnt have breakfast yesterday... However, trying not to freak out as all three of these things have happened before....

OK so the sultana mattress topper and body pillow test results are in....

Egg crate foam mattress topper is a massive success. It didnt totally erradicate the hip pain, BUT it gave me much longer on my side before it kicked in, meaning I spent almost the whole night on my side. grin

The argos body pillow was also a success. It could have been a bit chunkier, BUT the fact that it wasnt meant when I turned over I could take it with me easily and it didnt take over the bed.

So all in all, apart from waking up to pee or take rennies, I had a pretty good nights sleep. grin

toby is it today you are collecting your new car?

Solasum Sat 14-Sep-13 09:04:21

I am in London, and pretty sure the midwife told me that in London there are enough 'high risk' groups for everyone to get a diabetes test.

They even provided lucozade. That will be nice on an empty stomach an hour before my 8.30am appointment..

BookTart Sat 14-Sep-13 11:09:20

Hiya choco, I've been wondering where you've been! Sorry you've been having such a rough time though flowers Like sultana said, our thread finishing has been a shambles without you smile

envy at you mrsv - have a fabulous time!

Frizz1986 Sat 14-Sep-13 12:08:35

mrsv so jealous...

Been nice and busy today. Weekly shop, making pizza dough, cleaning, hanging the washing to dry, taking out the bins, looking after pooch all before my best friend arrives for a weekend visit. Cant wait to see her as not met up since the big news!!
Felt a bit stressed before tho as father in law arrived to help dh with the garden. Nice for the help but had this weekend planned for ages and wanted dh to help get everything ready before our guest but h has been stuck outside laying concrete.

sultana glad the reviews are in and good. My pillow is def bigger as it takes a lot of effort trying to move it (and myself) without waking up dh lol. Slightly smaller would be good but yet again mine is borrowed so ill take it!
Bad night for me last night. Up to pee 3 times, woke up once on my back and the pain was awful. Almost had to wake dh up to help me move. Oh well should really call the ohysio as midwife said they do some classes or something but i dont thinki will get reffered for anything worthwhile. What i wouldnt give for a decent back massage!!

enormouse Sat 14-Sep-13 12:09:19

Hey choco it's lovely to see you back.
Hi MrsV sounds like your having a great time.

I've gone back to studying part time and have missed it so much but the lecturer is already going on about ucas/full time studying etc and it's scaring me somewhat. I've decided on speech therapy but uni of ulster have been giving me the run around for weeks.
I'm getting a diabetes glucose tolerance test too, purely due to ethnicity.

I'm off to get my monobrow waxed soon, so I'll try and write on the thread a bit more than I have been. Xx

MrsAVB Sat 14-Sep-13 12:38:58

Wb choco, we missed you too! Good to hear you're feeling better.
sola I am in London and not having a gtt, you still have to have risk factors in my area.
Happy Saturday everyone!

Hope2014 Sat 14-Sep-13 12:40:36

Hello, just thought I'd check in and say hello here - Due date is 6th Jan and I'm having a pink one. Been a bit late in signing up - too paranoid early on but now feeling properly bumpy so thought it was time! Hope everyone is having a good weekend x

MrsVDB Sat 14-Sep-13 13:06:09

Glad your niece is doing well sarah

I really want an all over body massage. Had one last time and it was amazing (if not a bit intimate ha ha) but worried about whether they know how to do it safely and right oils etc. health and safety isn't their strong point here!

Had a bite of a dippy egg earlier too. Haven't had one whole time and I'm sure the eggs are much safer in England but for some reason fancied it. One bite in chickened out!!

Toothfairy78 Sat 14-Sep-13 14:57:36

My DH thinks I've gone mad.

I read about reusable baby wipes and how effective and Eco friendly they are......I have spent all morning on my sewing machine.

Welcome to hope! Congrats and lovely to see new peeps joining for the second half!

Hope you're all having a fun Saturday!

Solasum Sat 14-Sep-13 15:02:38

How and with what are you making the reuseable wipes, toothfairy? (Sensing fun project!)

Toothfairy78 Sat 14-Sep-13 15:12:34

An old flannel sheet. It's soft and cottony!

And it's very relaxing cutting and sewing a bazillion squares.

Have seen lots of cool stuff to sew in t'internet too including

Would be the perfect excuse to play with funky fabrics!

flyawayblue Sat 14-Sep-13 16:57:55

MrsGSR smile lovely to have a 'twin' hope things are going well for you.

I had the same fears re movement 2 weeks ago but was advised drinking really cold water and then calling the midwife if nothing happened. Drank the water and bing lots of movements. Very scary though.

She doesn't seem to move for J though. He's felt her a few times but mostly she quites down when he comes over. hopefully this means she will sleep for him later wink

Glad to here everyone's not 'done' was getting a bit worried.

I found you all :-)

I'm doing well, 22 weeks, well just over and Bug 2 is a little boy. Seemingly he's pretty happy.

bymoonlight Sat 14-Sep-13 20:25:29

Can I join in! I'm 21 wks today and am having a girl! So she's dd3!

Dh has resigned himself to never having a son as this is definitely our last baby.

We have already decided on the name Florence.

Sultanajo Sat 14-Sep-13 20:25:46

Welcome newbies! Nice to have you aboard!,grin

frying glad u found us! Congrats - really good to hear you are doing well! grin

frizz sounds as though you need a full body massage! Ahhhh bliss! grin

Sultanajo Sat 14-Sep-13 20:27:03

bymoon Florence is a lovely name!

bymoonlight Sat 14-Sep-13 21:12:37

Thanks Sulanajo, feels strange knowing what we are having as we never found out before.

I am over the moon to be having another little girl.

chocoloulou33 Sat 14-Sep-13 21:54:48

Ah thanks lovely ladies. Looks like I've been having similar issues to some of you with pains at night. I have a v pillow which is great and does help but hips still kill in the mornings. I do have back ache throughout day too. Was never like this with dd but that was 6 years ago I guess. Also meant to say yesterday I am in your anterior placenta club lol. Mine is high so am getting lots of v low kicks x

Hello! I'm back from lovely Devon - I see you've all been busy whilst I was away.

sarah glad it sounds as if your niece is on the road to recovery, what an ordeal. Poor little mite, I hope she continues to recover.

Toby glad the ctrx have slowed down (stopped?) and you're okay - how scary for you.

another poor you - no nookie. Hope the placenta moves its bottom sharpish.

Cannot remember ANYTHING else, despite reading six pages of posts...

We had a lovely week - had a pg massage (full body), and MY GOD do I recommend it. She focussed a lot on my hips, which are aching from side sleeping, and really relaxed them - so much better since then. If you can stretch to it (the lady i found does home visits in Devon, was £37) I would absolutely without question go for one.
Also went to the River Cottage to do breadmaking (class) - it was okay, but I'm still not sure I 'get' the trick of decent bread - everything we brought away was okay, but nothing special.

I have to go to sleep now - was determined to catch up with you all, but KNACKERED! grin

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 07:47:41

choco interesting another ap and similar aches.

humpty welcome back! grin Sounds like u had a good holiday and the massage sounds amazing! DH and I shared a shower last night grin and he gave me a mini massage using the shower gel which was just lush! How I managed to remain standing I dont know!

Another pretty good side sleeping night last night, despite stupid headache that wont shift.....grrrr!

TobyLerone Sun 15-Sep-13 07:58:09

Morning, ladies.

Hi, newbies smile

Welcome back, loulou grin

Glad you had a lovely time, Humpty. Breadmaking is all about practice. Yours will get better as you go along (if you cba to keep trying, of course!)

Sultana, I've had a headache for days, too sad Isn't it shit? Also heartburn that won't shift.

We picked up the new Mum-mobile yesterday. Meh. It's ok. I am such a brat.

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 08:36:57

Yep with u toby on both counts! Will all be worth it, but it sucks. Lots of strong kicks this morning so that is making me smile. grin

You will learn to love your brand new shiney car soon I am sure....it wont be forever - one day u can get the car of your dreams! grin grin

Trying to decide what to do today. Have been up since 7am and dont want to waste the day, but DH is working and am not feeling inspired.... Should probably go for a swim at some point.....Want to do something relatively active while I can....

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 13:06:23

Well went out to get some fresh air, do some browsing round the shops and sit by the waterfront, followed by a bit of food shopping. Well, now I remember why I dont do it very often. Because everyone is a cuntpuffin and I feel as though I am moving out of their way more than ever before. Omg the RAGE!!! angry Then I went to sit by the waterfront, which was bliss for 5 mins with a lovely cool breeze before it began to piss with rain! Food shopping was equally shite afterwards. All I could think was, how am I gonna cope doing things like this with bubs in tow, when I get totally fecked off when its just me....confused

Still, feel as though I got some exercise which is something....

Hope you are all having more successful Sundays....grin

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 15-Sep-13 13:41:24

Welcome hope and bymoon and congratulations on your girls smile

Sorry to hear about headaches Sultana and Toby, I suffer from these whenever the baby is on a growth spurt or I have tension in my shoulders. Good excuse for back and neck massages smile. Does anyone know if we allowed that 4 head stuff?

Right scared myself silly reading about placenta praevia online, so I am now taking it much easier than I was, no more lifting dd1 (4) onto swings. DH has stopped looking sad about no nookie too, now he knows the risks to baby and me. Dd2 had me up at 6am so when DH got up I went back to bed until midday and have just had a lovely bath.

TobyLerone Sun 15-Sep-13 13:44:21

Yes, we can use 4Head, as per my midwife.

bymoonlight Sun 15-Sep-13 13:44:58

Sultanajo - Once baby is here you will have the pram and then people will have to move out of your way or get clipped ankles grin

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 14:00:13

bymoon I was actually thinking the same! grin

another that sounds very sensible and what a blissful morning! Ahhhh.....grin

sultana I am the same - when I have to get out of the way for other people, and particularly when I have to twist at the waist to do so, I get furious and want to scream at them 'Can't you see I'm pregnant' grin. I sort of hate myself for being like this, as I do think I'm being a bit precious, possibly, but I can't help it! grin

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 15:04:14

humpty this hacked me off before I was preggers, but once my bump was obvious I thought people may start to be more courteous! Wrong! So the rage is now ten times worse because I feel I have to protect bump. Its just feckin rude and I feel like a mug constantly moving.

I also felt really old in the shops I was going in and a bit intimidated for some reason. Young people seem to have all the confidence in the world and I suddenly seem to be regressing! Must be hormones to blame.....blush

Penny31 Sun 15-Sep-13 16:36:24

Phew my feet are killing me! Mammoth shopping spree this weekend, ordered furniture and pram and bought lots of clothes and some sheets. Pleased I ordered the pram sooner rather than later! The delivery date is only 4 weeks before my due date!

Haven't had a chance to catch up yet but I hope everyone is ok xx

sultana a good friend of mine taught me the following trick, and it works (if you are walking towards people, not so much if you are standing still):

DO NOT make eye contact. Look just above their heads (also don't look down). Continue to walk the direction you were heading. Do not hesitate or deviate. 90% of the time people then move for you - the psychology is that subconsciously your brain recognises whether you've been 'seen' or not by the other person. If not, it's reflexive to move aside, as you don't want to get hit/bumped.
If you look down, it signals inferiority and they will assume you will move. You have to be brave, but it stops me committing genocide daily grin

Sultanajo Sun 15-Sep-13 20:27:59

Ekkk penny how exciting! grin Yeah, I didnt expect the delivery times on furniture, so I too am glad we bought it now, rather than November which is when DH wanted to shop....

humpty omg I am gonna have to try that and not wimp out! Thats just brilliant!!! grin

Just saw "white house down" at the pics and it was actually really good! It helps that Channing Tatum was the lead! Yum!!! grin blush

TobyLerone Sun 15-Sep-13 20:46:45

Humpty's advice works. I do it all the time. It's part of 'London Rules' in our house.

toby it is part of surviving here, isn't it? What happens if two Londoners both do it to each other, though? Does it create a wormhole in the space-time continuum?

Had a v chilled day today, ate roast lamb, made brownies, caught up on MNing things since holiday, had a bath. Trying to consciously make the most of pre-baby time.

Ooh, forgot to say - come and join me in my spiteful-glee-corner (like story-corner, but meaner): my cuntpuffin boss has partially got his comeuppance - my lovely colleague, who does all the bookeeping, payroll, mgmt accounts and finance management for the organisation has resigned. Said cuntpuffin does not know how to do any of these things, nor does he know which is which, and why they are important. He is POOING HIS PANTS. Ha. <does the spiteful dance of glee>

TarkaTheOtter Sun 15-Sep-13 22:49:33

Argh I've got a terrible cold! Does anyone know any remedies that don't involve drugs we can't have or sugars/carbs (so honey and lemon are no goes)??? I have no idea how to make myself feel better.

Also, I'm on a hen do this weekend and have a four hour train journey home tomorrow morning - double arghhh.

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 15-Sep-13 23:05:10

Vicks on the feet?

TarkaTheOtter Sun 15-Sep-13 23:10:25

YES - thank you another, Vicks is a great idea and I hadn't thought of it at all.

Toothfairy78 Sun 15-Sep-13 23:34:04

Oh dear, a cold? That sucks.

My colleague from Pakistan once took pity on me and gave me some of his Johar joshanda tea. It worked pretty well for something that didn't have paracetamol, phenylephrine or any other pharmaceuticals. I stocked up on some at the local Asian supermarket.

My step mum swears by ginger tea for colds, though it might remind you of fighting morning sickness!

Can you eat chillies at all?

Meh, not allowed real drugs and winter's coming!

Mac2014 Mon 16-Sep-13 07:31:23

I just wanted to check if anyone else has complete irritation bordering on rage with minute things? Yesterday a bloke stood too close to me at a checkout ... So close he was touching me... Weird old man & I had to turn round and tell him to move in a loud, disgusted voice. Think he just wanted to rest his basket?! This morning, the smells and irritating noises on my commute are nearly sending me postal & the lacks attitude of some of my team are irritating g me before I've even seen them.

I hope this calms down ... Or there'll be a new Downfall ... Pregnant women goes bonkers. Just send that noone has any manners anymore & is incapable of rational thought. (Not that it could be me being hormonal and irrational!)

Anyway angry rant over.

Have a good day all.

extracrunchy Mon 16-Sep-13 08:20:51

Mac - me. Big time. I'm incredibly irritable and can't seem to put things in perspective!

MrsAVB Mon 16-Sep-13 08:42:25

Morning all!
tarka, my vote goes for duvet on the sofa and cheesy films. And a man servant to bring food and drink. In the absence of drugs and sugar, what's a girl to do? Also maybe head over bowl of hot water with Vicks or similar? Or is that banned too?
Have a good day all! X

Frizz1986 Mon 16-Sep-13 08:47:53

oo no colds are not good.

I have been fairly good with rage so far.. but did yell slightly at pooch as she jumped up onto the chair as soon as I got up to pick her up (she isn't allowed to jump atm)
Then she did her waggle her tail and do a sad face at me as she knew I was angry. Then I just couldnt help giving her lots of kisses and cuddles.

Had a nice weekend with my bestie. Just chilled and watched 'the american president' a classic! with snacks and nibbles and yummy home made pizza.

Am currently feeling chilly at work so am sat with a hot chocolate. Bubs seems to be fumbling away inside which is nice. Did had a lovely sharp under the rib pain on my drive to work this morning. I don't like these random aches and pains. They are so annoying.

Plus my mum passed a message over from my nan this weekend. Apparently my uncle was due on Jan 8th (I am due jan 10th) and he arrived on xmas day!! Yay!

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 08:50:13

Humpty and Toby it would be hilarious if you two unknowingly walked towards each other in London one day and played chicken with each other to see who would back down or whether you just crashed into each other! grin

Tarka that sucks! I don't have any other remedies, but offering you some soft ultrabalm tissues and a hot non-added sugar ribena...!

Mac and extra that was totally ME yesterday, although I think a lot of my ranting was justified! However, supermarkets are the worst at the moment - just have absolutely NO patience whatsoever. In fact, as I walk towards the doors I can feel myself tensing up!

This morning, I just feel irritated and overwhelmed by the amount of work I have on! Just trying to keep it in mind "9 more weeks of work" and that is really the only thing keeping me going! hmm

TobyLerone Mon 16-Sep-13 08:51:16

grin wormhole.

I made brownies yesterday too, Humpty. Sweet potato ones. I owed some to DS's friend as he's been complaining that I haven't baked him anything for ages. DS rang him last night to tell him that he'd have some brownies today. Then he passed the phone to me in time for me to hear "I love you!" in deep, 15 year-old voice. It gave me the lulz grin

Also, I love it when that happens to CuntBosses. All of a sudden they're all of a fluster and everyone else is suddenly busy and doesn't know how to to any of the things wink

Tarka, paracetamol and plenty of fluids. Vitamin C. Make something with plenty of garlic, chilli, onion in it. Soup, perhaps?
Also, you can buy menthol crystals in chemists that you put in a bowl of hot water. They work quite well.

Mac, I always have that rage. Especially when people invade my personal space. So probably no more than usual!

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 16-Sep-13 10:25:02

mmm brownies .... How do you make sweet potato ones Toby?

Re: the rage thing. I am much more chilled out this time. When I was 8 months pregnant with dd1 some idiot woman tried to push me from behind as I was getting off the escalator, because I wasn't fast enough for her apparently. She got an earful from both me and DH who was in front of me wheeling off a suitcase (hence why I couldn't go any faster).

Hope you feel better soon Tarka, colds are rough especially when pregnant.

Sympathy to those with colds! I'm just getting over mine, it's been just over a week. Everything takes so much longer to get over.

I managed to sleep funny and I've hurt my neck. So i'm feeling all sorry for myself today!

Oooh, sweet potato brownies toby. Yummity. May need to know how those work. Y'know, for science.

tarka feel better, a cold must be particularly miserable if you can't nuke it with Lemsip. My mum swears that Redoxon Vit C is better than any other kind (not sure if it's PG safe, but worth checking?) for colds.

fryingpan ouch - is it a wry neck? Can you move it without screaming? If it's a wry neck, you'll need a doc/chiropractor to pop it into place. I had that once - bloody horrible. Can you take it easy today?

Just had my 25 week appointment (eek! How am I 25 weeks already - well, 24+3) - heard the hb for the first time, bean is measuring exactly right, which is nice. Had the nice midwife again, who makes me laugh - she finds EVERYTHING I say really funny, and is really sweet when I ask silly questions.

Mythreeknights Mon 16-Sep-13 11:47:38

For those with colds, try vitamin c and zinc - both are allowed in pg, in fact zinc is a recommended supplement as it's necessary for functioning DNA in foetus's. Chillies, ginger tea, fresh garlic on crackers (as much as you can stomach), sleep, pints and pints of water, vaseline under your nose and vicks on feet. I've been fighting off my 3 year olds cold all week, think I'm doing ok so far...

I'm feeling MARVELLOUS today - having had a shitty nights sleep on Sat night/Sunday, and feeling dreadful yesterday, today by contrast I feel normal and awake and just found out 2 bits of great news - one friend pg with second baby and one just engaged! Whoppee x

Mythreeknights Mon 16-Sep-13 11:48:53

Humpty can I have your midwife please? Mine is complete opposite - cold, abrupt and disinterested. I wouldn't dare crack a joke in case she breathed fire on me.

Frizz1986 Mon 16-Sep-13 12:47:41

mythree how lovely. Always nice when there is happy news around.

humpty so jealous of your MW app. I can't wait for my 25 week one. Do they measure the bump?? Hope my MW doesn't say its huge! Is it from 25 weeks that they get more regular too. Like every 3 weeks???

OMG all I can think of now is brownies..... Really like the sound of sweet potato ones but am now also dreaming of chocolatey gooey hazelnut ones. Damn it!!!! This cheese sandwich is just not going to fill the void.

mythree I will send her over to you! The last one I had (one of a team) was like yours - so glad I had the nice one again today! The horrid one sneered when I asked her about my persistent runny bum, and said 'you do know you're pregnant?' in a v disparaging way. Bitch.
Glad you're feeling chipper and have had such lovely news, hurrah!

frizz yep, I had the official tape measure of fundus (fundal?) applied. 24cm. Bang on <get in, baby!> My next appt is 28 weeks, so yes, I think this is where it starts to grind into action a bit more - anyone else?

TobyLerone Mon 16-Sep-13 14:39:09

Sweet potato brownies recipe. It's popular with everyone I know (and especially teenage boys, it seems!).

Yay for good midwife appointments. I've got the consultant this week and the midwife next week. Then probably another scan. Then more midwife, more consultant, another scan, repeat to fade. I don't think I'll have much time free from bloody medical appointments!

frying, do you have a cherry pit bag or something -- you know, the ones you put in the microwave? Could you put that around the back of your neck to ease the pain? Poor you sad

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 15:16:26

OMG! Chocolate brownies....dribble dribble! Now have a MASSIVE craving for them! Warm with vanilla ice cream! Lush! And perhaps a tiny bit of chocolate sauce drizzled over the top? Drool!

Humpty and mythree I HATE midwives who are disinterested and sarcastic! My last one was horrible and I didn't feel I could ask anything without getting some snarky remark.... My current one is nice, but perhaps a bit too "relaxed" about a few things I have mentioned. I wanted to ask her about the large abdomen at the last scan, so I did, only for her to stop me mid-sentence and say "don't worry, loads of people are told that and it's nothing to worry about". I didn't feel I could ask anything further as she had already basically moved on. OK, so perhaps it isn't anything to worry about in her eyes because maybe loads of people are told it, but her saying that in the way she did actually didn't make me feel any better.... Great your current one is lovely Humpty.

My midwife didn't measure my bump at my 25 week check just gone - I didn't think they started doing that until 28 weeks....perhaps like everything else it varies with area...

Frying poor you with your sore neck! Horrible when that happens! Is it just sore when you try and turn or all the time?

Mythree great to hear some exciting news and a double dose also! Woop woop!

TobyLerone Mon 16-Sep-13 15:18:16

The good thing about the sweet potato ones is that you need less fat and less sugar. I use less sugar even than it says, and they're always good.

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 15:33:47

Well that's a complete bonus! Bring them on!!!

I just had a phone call - heart stopped and thought it was gonna be the hospital saying I had diabetes. It wasn't thankfully! Instead it was the company who will be delivering my cotbed. Well, considering I ordered it from kiddicare, I didn't expect them to be a company based in the Netherlands and that is where they will be delivering from!!! So he will be in my area on 30th September - otherwise he would have to try and organise a date in October. He really wanted me to have the September date, so pushed me into it.

He also got funny when I said I didn't want it assembled yet - he kept saying "but it will only take them 15 minutes, if time is an issue". Ummm, no, we are gonna be re-doing the floor first so no point in putting it up yet and also feel it's jinxing things putting things up too early! It's one thing buying it and then leaving it in boxes - a whole other thing to put it all up already! Will need something to do when I go off in November anyway, so that will be the time for nesting, cleaning and assembling! grin

hello all!

i am on a major procrastination spree because i'm supposed to be clearing out the flat ready to spray for bed bugs later this week. i am very itchy and red and fed up.

beginning to get really wound up about our bed too. sad it's a fold out futon thing and the mattress has a stupid unpadded bit in the middle where it folds which i always end up sleeping on. if i sleep on the edge then the thing tips over. argh! rant over. i shoud suck it up cos we're getting a new one on sat but it's smaller than the one now and lower, so not sure how i'll get in and out when sore after the birth.

anyone else still getting leg cramps? i had one on sat morning, it was crazily sore! it still hurts so might mention it to midwife tomorrow.

hope everyone else is having a good day. apologies for the eeyore like tone of this post. i really need to get it together!

TarkaTheOtter Mon 16-Sep-13 16:25:54

I wake up with cramp in my right foot most mornings at the moment. Always the right one. If you get any good tips from the midwife please pass them on!

I've survived my train journey home and am currently trying to do the sofa/duvet thing to recover from my cold. Unfortunately I'm doing it with a toddler who keeps running off with my inhaler. She has also comandeered the tissues and will only let me have one at a time and then only if I let HER wipe MY nose.

Rant ahead- my dh picked up an electric breast pump I'd lent to a friend in an emergency and in full knowledge that I would need it back. I gave it to them fully boxed like new. They have returned it a few months later in a carrier bag (no box) with all the electric parts missing. They're friends of dh's so I am letting him deal with it but I REALLY want to send a passive aggressive message along the lines of "thanks for taking such good care of my breast pump you cuntpuffins ".

TarkaTheOtter Mon 16-Sep-13 16:27:49

sultana don't want to get your hopes up but when I was diagnosed with GD I had a message on my phone by the time I was home from the hospital.

MrsGSR Mon 16-Sep-13 16:32:59

I hoe you feel better soon altered, frying and tarka. Stupid beds, neck ache and colds! I hope the crowd tricks work for those who are struggling.

I'm on a bit of a downer, my BIL & SIL have just left, DH went away yesterday so I'm alone now for 2 weeks sad I do have a night in planned with a friend on Thursday, but I have an exam next month so mostly I have to lock myself away and force some revision!

I've also been having bad back pain that I'd just been ignoring as I figured it was just muscular until my SIL pointed out that the pain is where my bladder is. Apparently her friend had pain there when she had a bladder infection. So it looks like the antibiotics might not have worked. I'm a bit annoyed as they first detected an infection in the 8 week appointment, waited until 16 weeks to tell me and request another sample, the results took 2 weeks to come through and were posted so I didn't receive them until after I got home from holiday. And now it looks like I still have the infection at almost 23 weeks angry

Mythreeknights Mon 16-Sep-13 17:01:55

Sultana if it makes you feel any better, this baby's cot is already up as it has been sitting in a spare room since my youngest 'graduated' from it. I don't think it will jinx anything.

I did feel v pleased with MY FIRST BABY PURCHASE - in a local charity shop I found the exact same cot mobile that my other 2 kids had and which broke with my youngest hanging off it. So, for £15 I have got another one (£50 new)! Wiooop woo.

Mrs GSR bad bad luck with the bladder infection...but aren't you in a whole load of pain all the time? I picked up a parasite in Africa years ago which lived between my bladder and urinary tract and basically munched it's way through most of it...resulting in constant agonising cystitis for about a decade after. All cleared up now (touches wood), but I really do sympathise with UTIs. Uva Ursi is a herbal product which works WONDERS - might be safe in pg, not sure.

Tarka what idiots. That is really crap of them. I had the same when lending all my Mat clothes frompgs 1 and 2 to a friend who then lent them to another friend and when I eventually got them back, the bag had a completely different set of clothes in completely different sizes. On the positive side I was bored of some of the stuff anyhow so it was nice to get some new things, but some of my old favourites had gone and that really was annoying.

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 17:10:32

Ekkkk Tarka will try not to grasp that information and run with it!!!! I am praying it's negative!!!

Altered I am not surprised you are feeling hacked off! I would be too! Poor you! angry

Tarka glad you made your long train journey home! Phew! Bless your DD - clearly thinks she is taking care of you like you do of her! OMG I can't believe the breast pump situation! What is WRONG with people?? I would be mortified if I couldn't return something to someone in the condition I received it - in fact I just wouldn't, I would go out and buy another to replace it! Unbelievable! I hope they sort it out cos that's not on!!!

MrsG you aren't alone! We are all here and will all bundle round yours for a cheesy film and munchies night at the drop of a hat! wink The revision for your exam sucks! Blerghhhh! And your potentially ongoing bladder infection sucks even more! Doesn't give you the greatest faith in your healthcare providers does it? The more I experience myself and the more I hear from people I know the more nervous it makes me! I am definitely gonna call my GP's practice in a couple of weeks if I haven't heard anything about my diabetes test to just make sure the reason I haven't heard is because it's negative and not because someone has lost it/misfiled it/assumed someone else has called..... Are you going to go back to your GP?

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 17:16:29

Mythree it makes me feel a teeny bit better....grin

I can't believe people who borrow things and don't return them in the way they should be. People have been offering me baby clothes and I have been panicking about how to remember who lent me what - so am gonna take pics of everything and label the pics, so I can return everything in as good condition as possible to the right people! Wish everyone had a similar attitude. There are things I have leant people that have either come back in a shitty condition or not come back at all (and because my memory is so bad, I remember lending them out but can't remember to whom, so that's them gone forever).

DH brought home a few books his colleagues have leant us - I really wish they hadn't as I am never gonna remember which books they were. I put them together in a bunch so I could at least remember which are theirs and then DH went and moved them! Sounds crazy that I don't know which ones are mine, BUT they are all on similar subjects to those I have already and they all look very similar in size, colour etc. I just wish he would take them back now so I don't have to worry about them going missing!

I am up for cheesy film and munchies at MrsG's - I'll try out toby's brownie recipe and bring the results. Bah to stupid bladders though.

tarka that's appalling - how rude. I'm sorry - will they replace, do you think?

mythree excellent bargain hunting skillz!

altered bad beds are the devil's work. I cried at my DH for three hours and he bought us a new mattress, even though we are in a rental and will have to leave it behind and will only have had five months use out of it. I cannot sleep in bad beds - yes, that's princessy, but I don't give a fuck, it's my one thing. You have my UTMOST sympathy.

sultana I wouldn't assemble the cot yet either if we'd bought or even chosen one. Not superstitious, just practical!

We bought a baby monitor today - the Tommee Tippee Closer to Nature one, Which recommended as a Best Buy, and was £20 off (£65 originally) in the M&P sale. Feel like we're on the road to actually having a nursery - AND the landlords of the place we're moving to have FINALLY confirmed that we are def getting it. Once we have a move date, we can order nursery furniture and pram - no point before then. Eeek!

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 17:50:01

ekkk humpty! Thats definite progress! Hopefully a moving date soon eh? We very nearly went for the same monitor because of the which reviews, but ended up with a BT one after seeing my mates in action....

BookTart Mon 16-Sep-13 18:39:30

Oh god, you're all so organised! I WILL buy something soon. Probably.

tarka that's bang out of your friends, I hope they replace the missing bits.

mythree that's horrific! At least it has made me clench some muscles though - I keep forgetting my pelvic floor exercises but all I have to do is think about your parasite and I'm clenching away grin

TarkaTheOtter Mon 16-Sep-13 18:44:22

Congrats on the new place humpty. Hopefully you'll get a moving date soon.

Spacefrog35 Mon 16-Sep-13 18:59:01

I've never used it but I like the look (& the name of) this website http://www.returnmypants.com/ might be helpful for those struggling with lending/ borrowing items?

I think I'm having a 'rage' day as well. I work with an idiot who not only talks to herself constantly all day but uses the word 'no' as a response to any statement without seeming to understand the implication that she is apparently disagreeing with you. Took half an hour of arguing this afternoon before we eventually figured out that when she said no, she actually meant OK. Added to that the big boss had a chat to the company today and announced they've employed a new team of people to take on half of the work my team does. No problem with this at all as my team can actually only get through half the work with the resources we have which is discussed with the boss last week but it would have been nice to have even 5 minutes notice that half my teams responsibilities were being reallocated rather than having it dropped on me in a company wide briefing! Aaaarrrggh cuntpuffins all of them angry

How much do I want a pint of wine

Sorry & breathe, thanks for listening ladies, as you were smile

MrsGSR Mon 16-Sep-13 18:59:02

Congrats on your new place humpty smile

Mythree that sounds terrible, I'm glad it's all cleared up now! I've been in a lot of pain, practically in tears by the evening! But I haven't thought anything of it as I have a bad back from an accident years ago and I expected it to get worse with pregnancy.

Couldn't get through to the GP this morning so hoping to get an appointment tomorrow.

I love cheesy movies! My DH has some crap chick flicks he claims he got free with other films, I might set out the sofa bed and watch a few!

MrsGSR Mon 16-Sep-13 19:00:40

flowers space, that doesn't sound like fun!

Frizz1986 Mon 16-Sep-13 19:02:59

Congrats on the new place humpty

I dont even have a cold or anything but retuned from work, put on the pjs and dhs wooly jumper an am under the duvet so i am ready for movies and nibbles when you all are smile
Sorry about the possible infection mrsg

tarka cant believe the cheek of some people. I am only borrowing from my sister so i know who things go back to and everything will either be returned in the same condition or i will replace or pay.

Cant believe people have bought stuff. Dh doesnt want to start til oct-nov time. Is that too late?? Still need to do the nursery but might start on that this weekend.

sarahleanne Mon 16-Sep-13 19:16:34

tarka thats bloody disgusting that they would return it in that state I would not be impressed.

mrsg im on my lonesome too as of tomorrow! Dh's boss rang him earlier and said he is booked on a flight tomorrow and going away for a few weeks I just love how specific they are

well my friend who told me she is pregnant last week has found out today she has had an early miscarriage, poor girl. It was suspected last week and confirmed by scan today.

My niece is doing well and back in bristol now at the specialist hospital.

Congrats on the place humpty-I moved last month and told dh im not bloody doing it again for years!!

I cant believe how fast this pregnancy is going. Im 23weeks today and it's flying by. I am having some serious pulling pains in my stomach though, even when im driving or just lazing around not doing much.

Spacefrog35 Mon 16-Sep-13 19:20:27

frizz haven't bought anything! Borrowing a few bits and have a list of what I think we will need but just can't motivate myself yet! If I don't buy stuff I can ignore the fact that in less than 5 months time this odd sensation in my tummy is going to take over my house as well as my every waking thought!

sarah good news about your niece

mac, extra and space I am joining you in the preggo rage club after my commute home. Some little turd pushed me aside on the platform as he tried to get further along as the train was arriving. I said (V LOUDLY and in my V POSH VOICE) 'DO YOU MEAN 'EXCUSE ME'?' at which point he turned around, sneered and said 'nah, fuck off'.

I'm afraid I rather lost the moral high ground my yelling 'Learn some FUCKING manners you rude cunt' and stalking off down the platform. I got a wink from one older chap though, so perhaps it wasn't as unladylike as I felt blush

sarah such good news about your lovely niece, still thinking of her.
Sad news about your friend though, that's really tough.

Toothfairy78 Mon 16-Sep-13 19:42:19

Oh dear humpty what a rude selfish little twat! Next time trip him up!

sarah good to hear the nice is doing well. Sorry to hear about your friend.

I had my 25 wk appointment with the GP today. Got weighed....beefcaaaaaaaake!!!! listened to baby which was nice! I asked about my MAT B1 form, he asked what one of those was! Had to go ask the receptionist to follow it up! The Doc also had NO tips for avoiding cramp. Chocolate blimming' teapot!

And I worked my fricking balls off today.

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 20:27:34

humpty I bet you felt sooo much better after yelling that at him! Brilliant! Stupid little twot had it coming! angry

sarah not great news for your poor friend bless her, but great news about your niece! Hurray!,grin

OK, mind blank.....

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 20:36:46

tooth how does your GP not know what a mat b1 form is? He should get together with mine! hmm Good job one of you was on the ball!!!

Those who havent bought yet, dont stress. I only started because I like to be super organised and got over excited! I am the one who arrives early for everything, as the thought of being late stresses me out big time! I dont mind having little bits left over to buy - in fact I need some so I can pace myself a bit more - but I just wanted to big items ticked off as they were playing on my mind and I found it so complicated to choose! Still got clothes, nappies, breast pump, bottles, steriliser, mirror for the car back seat and sunshield, blankets, bedding, nursery decorations etc to get, but was gonna wait until after the nct classes before getting those bits.....

Cant believe NCT starts in three weeks! Really hoping its going to give me all the answers! (ever the realist!!!) grin

Naturegirl82 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:20:52

I just ate two cream cakes, mine and Dh's! What a fatty!blush

So much chatter today and I can't remember anything anyone has said (although I do remember something about brownies! Obviously have cake on the brain!).

Dh is still ill. Poorly him. But he did just get to feel bubs kick quite hard which surprised him smile .

I start pregnancy yoga tomorrow. Hoping it is ok, going to go with an open mind and see if it is for me.

Puppy dog starts training classes this week as well grin I'm so excited I think she is really going to enjoy it (well I'm going to enjoy it anyway!).

Sarah sounds positive about your niece.

Naturegirl82 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:24:03

I'm suprised the gp didn't know what a matb1 form is! Shocking!
Had it confirmed today that I accrue bank holidays whilst on mat leave which is good. Has anyone else handed in their maternity letter yet? I have to hand mine in next week so just trying to firm up my plans.

Frizz1986 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:28:32

Omg sultana i hadnt even noticed that nct was that close. Holy moley!

Frizz1986 Mon 16-Sep-13 21:29:56

What sad news about your friend sarah but glad your niece is making progress.

Gosh, lots to catch up on.

tarka that is so rude of your friend. I'd be furious.

humpty yay for the new house! Still waiting for our move to progess. Streeeeessss!

sarah that's brilliant that your niece is closer to home. Hopefully she'll be up and about soon

I start preg yoga tomorrow too naturegirl. It's a yoga bellies one, which sounds ok, but possibly a bit woo! I just want to do some exercise, not necessarily connect with my inner goddess or anything...

Sorry to all I've missed. Mad busy at work at the mo, and DS is still settling into school. It's his last afternoon with childminder tomorrow after over 4 years. He's still so little, I kind of want him to stay with her forever and not have to go to scary school every day sad that said, he loves his school, has great friends and is thriving, so I guess I just need to woman up a bit and celebrate how we'll he's doing and what a fab young man he is turning into. Pregnancy hormones aren't helping me do this though!

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 21:57:00

nature your poor DH but at least bubs is keeping him smiling! Yay puppy classes! You will have a fab time - how could you not in a room full of pupsters? grin

frizz I know! Suddenly snuck up on my from nowhere!,grin

Sultanajo Mon 16-Sep-13 21:58:25

enjoying bless your little DS! How cute! Great to hear how well he is doing!

Good luck at yoga ladies....ommmmmmmm! wink

Angelesque Mon 16-Sep-13 22:12:57

So... Today had a meeting with a supplier I was meeting for the first time. They asked if I was "finishing soon", and I didn't know what they meant... Then I realised they meant was I going on mat leave soon! I'm only 21 weeks and have only put on three pounds... I'm still wearing normal size 10 clothes FFS!!

So I am sulking on the sofa with a Toblerone...

Angelesque Mon 16-Sep-13 22:26:13

nature that's interesting about accruing bank hols too... I had no idea. Talking to HR tomorrow about how long I'm planning on taking off so will mention then. Thanks!

TarkaTheOtter Mon 16-Sep-13 22:57:57

Oh that's good about your mat leave nature. My work didn't have to let me accrue them with dd because of how my contract was worded (and the fact that they would have been on top of 6 weeks holiday that I did accrue). I argued it for a while but seems there had been no test case in my favour by the time I left. Can't complain too much as I took them for absolutely every penny I was entitled to then handed in my notice.

extracrunchy Tue 17-Sep-13 01:07:53

Angel how the hell have you managed not to balloon?!? Not fair! I'm 25 weeks and have gained about a stone...

MrsVDB Tue 17-Sep-13 02:17:22

nature I also get bank holidays which I wasn't expecting. I'm hoping to be able to get about a year off in total so the whole of 2014!! Woo

Naturegirl82 Tue 17-Sep-13 07:09:24

Extra week off paid so definitely not complaining about the bank hols smile . I hadn't realised until yesterday that minimum holiday had been upped to 28 days so even if your work doesn't allow you to accrue bank hols that is the minimum you should accrue.

Getting treated to breakfast in bed this morning. smile

Angelesque Tue 17-Sep-13 07:43:12

extra I think I'm about to go on a growth spurt... Apparently I look eight months gone according to yesterday's meeting! I'll go away and get over it now smile

Has everyone decided how long they're taking off work. I'm going to tell HR today... Going for seven months I think...

Frizz1986 Tue 17-Sep-13 08:02:11

angel i have told my work that i plan to take the whole allowance. Not sure if thats 52 weeks plus all my hols or if my hols are within those 52 weeks tho.
It all seems a bit confusing but gov website says that you can have up to 52 weeks of mat leave and that you still accrue hols so am assuming you can potentially take 13 months.
You only have to give 8 weeks notice to return earlier and as i like being in control it puts the ball firmly in my court and i know they wont be nagging when i am coming back.
I expect i will go back sooner if the financial situation stays as it as we cant really live off just my mat pay but fx things will get better and i can have as long as possible off with the baby.

I am hoping to have a meeting sometime soon anyway to answer all my questions and for them to confirm everything. Once you have handed in your letter they are supposed to confirm you mat leave in writing within 28 days, but as it took a week for my boss to even pass it onto the hr guy, plus we are currently recruiting due to others leaving, i have a feeling my maternity will get thrown on the bottom of the pile.

MrsAVB Tue 17-Sep-13 08:46:51

I am doing the same as you frizz -saying I'll take a whole year because there's the proviso to come back early with 8 weeks notice. My employers still don't have a maternity policy, despite it being the law and that they've known I'm pg for 20ish weeks as I had to tell them early cos of the vomming. So my letter is going to be a long list of questions asking them to confirm in writing all the stuff they've said verbally. It's very annoying that I'm having to do all of this, research it all myself, and be the one asking awkward questions, but I want to protect myself as much as possible. CUNTPUFFINS
Baby has been much more active the last few days and is starting to be a nuisance at night, was really uncomfortable last night, boo. Better than not being able to feel him/ her moving though.
angel I've only put on 4lbs too from my pre pg weight, although lost 7ish in the first 12 weeks, so the increase since then is nearer a stone. Am still mostly in my normal clothes with bump bands.
Have a good day all

BookTart Tue 17-Sep-13 08:52:49

I'm taking the whole year as well frizz. I have to hand my form in by the end of next week, but my boss is on leave and I can't get my head around it all so I've set up a meeting with HR on Friday. I think I accrue holiday whilst on mat leave, but policy here is that you have to take it in the same leave year. given that I'll be due back on 5th December, there aren't actually enough days left in the year for all my leave! I think I can take some as paid time during mat leave, but will have to check. Also found out that they don't like you working past 36 weeks without a doctor's note and me signing a disclaimer, so that's bought the date I go on leave forward by a week. Yay!
No sign of bubs moving this morning, so am having a cheeky cup of tea to see if I can wake her up. I may also have some sort of cake chaser when the cafe opens. I can't imagine why I've put on a stone already grin

extracrunchy Tue 17-Sep-13 09:09:02

Book according to this www.thebabycorner.com/tools/pregnancy/calculators/weightcalculator.php I'm right on track with about a stone of gain at 25 weeks! Reassuring!

Naturegirl82 Tue 17-Sep-13 09:34:29

extra good you're on target. I'm going to ignore my results from that though as it's telling me I've gained half a stone too much for 23 weeks! sad I'm literally all bump and boobs though. And you can only tell I'm pg from looking at me from the side so the bump sticks out. I bought new underwear in my usual size at the weekend so I can't have piled on the pounds sad

BookTart Tue 17-Sep-13 09:35:00

Ooh, I like that link crunchy! According to that I'm at the bottom end of my acceptable weight gain. I'm off to have some extra toast then grin

Solasum Tue 17-Sep-13 10:20:29

A long shot, but I don't suppose anyone has excess vests they'd like to swap? After ebay-bundle-shopping, I have ended up with far too many in 0-3 size, all immaculate, mostly white, a few with stripes, stars etc, decent highstreet brands. Has anyone done the same with bigger (3-6, or 6-9) sizes? I am having a boy, so ideally not all pink, but otherwise anything goes...

(By vest I mean short sleeves and poppers between the legs, if this should eb called something else, sorry!)

Lalunya85 Tue 17-Sep-13 11:28:10

Hi all - I'm joining you at the January 2014 for the first time - I had no idea this existed, how nice!

I have a question about the weight thing: I was 64kg before pg, then lost some weight (down to about 60kg until week 16) and am now on 62.5kg at 22weeks.

How should I calculate my weight gain? Have I lost 1.5kg (compared with pre-pg weight) or have I gained 2.5kg in the last 6 weeks (from my "lowest" weight after ms etc.)?

Any ideas?!

AnotherStitchInTime Tue 17-Sep-13 11:54:29

Hi Lalunya and welcome smile Have a look here, I think you calculate from your starting weight at the beginning of pregnancy.

Got to pick up dd1 from school, back later to catch up <waves>

Frizz1986 Tue 17-Sep-13 12:23:26

I haven't weighed myself for the past 3 weeks. I was a few lbs above what I should have been then but I don't look massive and am hoping that the mw will tell me if I've put on too much. I might even ask at my 25 week ap just in case. I think they get more concerned about baby being way too big or too small so as long as the bump measures ok. My sister had put on almost 4 stone by the time my nephew arrived and he was 5.5 weeks early. The mw never made any comments tho I just think she felt a bit sluggish and urgh because of the weight gain. I was def too skinny before tho as was 9st 11 but 5ft 8! So am hoping that means I can get away with a bit more weight gain smile

Lalunya85 Tue 17-Sep-13 12:24:00

Thanks AnotherStichInTime!

According to that calculation I should be around 13 pounds heavier to reach the minimum weight gain required. Is anyone else so much below the recommended weight gain? I'm not really worried as I'm eating well now and have started putting on some weight.

Oh well - I guess it leaves me with plenty of room to fatten up over the next four months! I've only stopped being sick about a month ago, so have only really been able to eat proper food since then.

MrsVDB Tue 17-Sep-13 12:31:56

I asked the midwife about my weight at 16w as bmi was 34 at booking in and they said they don't even weigh people throughout any more and as long as its under 2-3 stone I shouldn't worry. She said there's only so much damage you can do in 6 months!!

But at 20w scan when lady was looking for sex she asked the other lady in the room if I was booked in for extra growth scans due to my bmi so I could find out then if not! Bloody rude!! No I am not!

ok ladies, just back from the midwife and i asked about leg cramps. she said that sometimes they can be a sign of magnesium deficiency and so gave me a prescription for magnesium supplements.

she also gave me an appointment with the dietician because i've gained too much weight. blush i was actually a bit relieved because almost all the 8kg gain came during my first trimester self-medicating with crisps phase so if i stop eating crap now perhaps i'll manage not to gain too much more. i do look like an especially badly dressed whale in the midst of all the parisian women though.

my husband watnted to cry because i also have appointments with a cardiologist, two ultrasound appointments, an information session at the hospital and two midwife appointments all within the next month. this is without the three pages of blood and urine tests. he will have to accompany me to all of them because my french is crap! i think he's given up hope of finishing his PhD.

Lalunya85 Tue 17-Sep-13 12:40:37

alteredimages - magnesium as well as potassium deficiency can be a cause for leg cramps (I used to get these all the time!). Try to eat lots of bananas! ;)

altered It's a well known fact that those skinny, perfectly dressed Parisian women are secretly deeply envious of us and wish they could eat crisps too, but they are too buttoned up to try. grin

Thanks lalunya, i'll try and up my potassium intake too. i eat a lot of fish though, so i reckon it might have more to do with dehydration. I don't know if there's a link but i definitely should be drinking more water!

grin humpty. you almost made me spit out my haribo.

i'm now into day two of my procrastination spree. should probably just do the cleaning. sad

MrsGSR Tue 17-Sep-13 13:29:34

Glad to hear your niece is still improving Sarah

I haven't weighed myself for a while, I'm a bit scared to! I've been eating mostly healthily so I'm just going to hope it's fine and stay ignorant for a while!

Sorry to hear of so many useless GPs. My GP surgery is spread out over 3 locations, my appointment Thursday is at one I've not been to before so I have no idea what to expect!

I hope your yoga has gone well nature and enjoying, I've been very lazy recently so I'm very impressed!

Welcome and congrats to those who've just joined smile

altered I've spent all morning procrastinating too! I need to do some revision this afternoon!

I'm still feeling a bit sorry for myself home alone, need to get over it soon!

MrsAVB Tue 17-Sep-13 14:01:44

lalunya I am 8lbs under my minimum weight gain by that calculator. Am not worried though, I think it's different for everyone, and like you I lost a fair bit with sickness in the first 12 weeks, but have gained steadily since then. And am still being sick and still on meds, ho hum!

Lalunya85 Tue 17-Sep-13 14:35:19

MrsAVB - how far along are you? Sorry to hear you are still being sick - I hope it will be over for you soon! My sickness stopped/eased off around 16 weeks and is almost gone now. No more vomming at least, only certain smells still make me feel a little nauseous but nothing compared to the first four months. They were absolute hell!

puggle01 Tue 17-Sep-13 14:42:23

Room for another? Budge up! smile
Due 4th jan. Thought I'd dipped my toe in the water yesterday but must have stuffed up posting. All new at both mumsnet and the actual having a baby bit.
So far have been lurking but MN has saved me regarding hyperemesis (just presumed morning sickness meant not being able to keep water down until I looked at the threads here --and was sick cos the morning sickness thread descibed people eating actual food--)
I'm in the "painting the nursery cream" / find out on the day what flavour of baby group. Do we have a name?
Good luck to all you house movers - I'll be moving at 32 weeks and bit concerned my dh still counts me as work force rather than decorative accessory wink

Spacefrog35 Tue 17-Sep-13 16:44:12

Hi puggle
I think those of us who aren't sure if we're 'pink and fluffy' or 'blue & pee in the eye' are team yellow smile

Love the idea of a decorative accessory, just wrap yourself in bubble wrap and write fragile across your forehead wink

Sultanajo Tue 17-Sep-13 17:31:30

Welcome lalunya & Puggle! grin

According to that weight calculator I am at the top of the range of where I should be....blush Must get swimming more!

Absolutely cream crackered today - no time to even think or pee at work today and feel as though I am rapidly dehydrating after a day forgetting to drink! Just trying to psych myself up to go out in the rain to get some apples to snack on.....come on sultana - you can do it!!!

Frizz1986 Tue 17-Sep-13 18:07:05

I think i am about 4lbs over what i should be blush
I havent been exercising blush
And although i have eaten healthy teas i have snacked badly blush
I also dont think i have eaten as much fruit/veg as i should be or enough fish ... double blush

Oh well. Like some of you said there is only so much damage i can do in 9 months and i dont feel huge yet so....

Welcome to the newbies. Have some cake so i dont feel like so much of a pig.
On the up side i do remember to take my pregnancy vitamins everyday so hopefully bubs is getting what it needs.

MrsAVB Tue 17-Sep-13 18:29:53

I am very bad at taking my vits sultana. But fairly good at eating cake.
lalunya, I'm 24+6.
Welcome to team yellow puggle!

MrsAVB Tue 17-Sep-13 18:30:47

Oops frizz to sultana!

Sultanajo Tue 17-Sep-13 18:35:30

frizz I have my moments of being angelic and my moments of being very naughty. Clearly the naughty moments are currently outweighing my angelic moments! It would be much easier if food came in a tablet! grin

I must not make Toby's brownies because I know I would eat the lot!!!

I am just getting to the point where my bump is starting to affect me being able to get in and out of the car easily. I am just having to be a bit careful I dont hit it on the steering wheel on my way in and out! I am quite short so the seat is quite close to the wheel... Also tried to lean over to pick something up off the passenger floor and gave up as I couldnt breathe and bump was in the way....time to realise I cant do everything I could pre preggers me thinks! Can only imagine what it will be like in 14 weeks! hmm

BookTart Tue 17-Sep-13 19:43:32

sultana have you got a special bump belt thing for the car? I've started driving to work in the last week instead of getting the train/bus (because I am lazy), and I can't make the seatbelt go across my lap instead of over my bump.

Hello lalunya and puggle!

Baby finally moved after I drank orange juice, two cups of caffeinated tea and a hot chocolate, and then ate a triple chocolate muffin. She waited until I got home and got the doppler out though - I was starting to get a bit worried. I can see she's going to be trouble already wink

extracrunchy Tue 17-Sep-13 19:47:37

Sultana I made Toby's brownies for DH today! BLOODY NICE. And also ate half the tin before he got home. Ahem.

extracrunchy Tue 17-Sep-13 19:48:06

Ooh hi lalunya and puggle smile

puggle01 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:50:03

Cheers for the cake frizz I'm contemplating making my own carrot cake for the added fibre ahem.
Has anyone found any maternity jeans that have working usable pockets on the front? I'm baffled that suddenly I'll have no need to carry my phone/hanky/bus ticket/loose change/pretty shell now I have a bump. Or will I be issued a Bat man mama style utility belt by the midwives?
Any tips for getting these cursed emphasis things to work?

puggle01 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:50:28

Oh cancel that its worked after all

Frizz1986 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:53:54

More brownie talk smile
I think we can all take something from extra eating half the tin.....make 2 tins and eat 1 so no one knows! Lol
I am off to get sone syrup sponge and custard before bake off starts. Its blooming cupcake week this week too (not on bake off but in actual life) and as we are uber budgeting i cant afford to make any sad
Oh well......

Hope2014 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:55:20

Hello all, I just thought I'd share my freak out moment. We have no long mirror at home (haven't gotten around to putting it up yet) and I am in a hotel tonight for work tmrw.

So instead of stressing about tomorrow's work thing I am now totally freaked out at seeing my body in 24 wk pg glory (bump has materialised rapidly over 2 wks) in crazy bright hotel lighting, complete with what look like a few stretch marks starting at the side/back!


TobyLerone Tue 17-Sep-13 20:22:10

Yay for brownies!

Hi newbies!

I can't concentrate on the thread properly because of Bake Off. And also because DS and DH are talking about farts hmm
But yays/boos as appropriate.

TobyLerone Tue 17-Sep-13 20:23:15

Oh, also, I have some Next overbump maternity jeans with usable pockets front and back. They're not this season's, though, so I'm not sure if the current ones have them.

MrsGSR Tue 17-Sep-13 20:42:04

book I've got one of the bump belt things, was about £20 from kiddicare. I love it, it's very reassuring, especially when we're traveling the 4 hours to and from our parents!

MrsGSR Tue 17-Sep-13 20:43:26

puggle I can fit my phone and keys in the front pockets of my new look underbump jeans smile

TobyLerone Tue 17-Sep-13 20:47:58

I've also got 2 pairs of underbump jeans with pockets, but I've never found them comfortable at any stage of pregnancy so far.

Naturegirl82 Tue 17-Sep-13 20:48:03

All this talk of cake Dh just came in and he had baked me a birthday cake grin He has never baked me a cake before. It tastes so good grin grin grin

Naturegirl82 Tue 17-Sep-13 20:49:32

Also I have some underbump jeans from mothercare that have useable front pockets.

Welcome to everyone new smile

Angelesque Tue 17-Sep-13 20:57:34

puggle my New Look skinny under bumps have usable front and back pockets, and they were £16, and I LOVE them. Prefer them to my Seraphine ones.

Lalunya85 Tue 17-Sep-13 21:30:59

MrsAVB Another one here for team yellow!

Cake night for me too tonight - must be something in the air! Had a swim and cycle from work earlier though, so not feeling too bad about all that sugar! shock

booktart It's so great when they move! Always makes me smile like an idiot at my desk at work when it happens. Colleagues must think I'm going bananas...

Do you guys feel movement every day? I'm at 22 weeks and feeling baby move every other day, but definitely not every day! Have so far resisted renting a doppler because I'd be listening in constantly...

Angelesque Tue 17-Sep-13 21:37:44

Lalunya I'm 21 weeks and still only feeling flutters/twinges, and not quite every day. Anterior placenta here so I'm blaming that! Wish I could feel more though...

TarkaTheOtter Tue 17-Sep-13 21:46:56

lalunya I'm 23 weeks and movements still only sporadic (although strong when I have them). I think it's once you're 28 weeks that you should definitely be feeling regular movements before that baby small enough to move without knocking the sides too much.

I'm not taking the weightgain website too seriously as it said I was 25- 30lbs under where I should be at this point. I get scanned/measured all the time though and baby is growing fine. It's just me who has lost weight.

Asos under bump skinny jeans (elgin?) are look great and are comfortable and have all the regular pockets of normal jeans. I LOVE them. They are better than my non-maternity jeans.

MrsA your work really are shit, aren't they? How fucking ridiculous.

puggle and lalunya hello!

I have underbump mat jeans from Mamas and Papas which are okay, not great, and have back pockets only, not front - bloody weird, as far as I'm concerned.

lalunya I'm 24+4 and have movement every day. I didn't have it until about 2 weeks ago - HTH.

Bought the MOST GORGEOUS baby booties in JL today - little furry bear booties. I luffs them grin

MrsGSR Tue 17-Sep-13 22:28:44

hope I've been trying to avoid mirrors for that reason!

lalunya I've been feeling flutters for about 3 weeks but some days I feel very few, if any, and other days she's very active! Today has been an active day which is very reassuring after I dreamt last night that I'd lost her.

extracrunchy Tue 17-Sep-13 23:38:19

Nature! Happy birthday! thanks

Frizz1986 Wed 18-Sep-13 07:58:47

layluna i am 23+5 and seem to feel strong movement every day about 5 or so times (starting to get a bit more regular) Some are almightly kicks, well to me they are but its still small compared to what i expect it will become (first timer so not really sure)
I have an anterior placenta too and only started feeling more regularly over the past week.

Oh and happy birthday for yesterday nature if my dh baked i cake i think we could lose the house in some kind of explosion. Hes better sticking to savoury things!

Best get myself ready for work after a painful hip aching night.
I did get my government from bump to birth and beyond letter yesterday so have asked to be signed up for that free antenatal class. Dh even said he would come which is nice as its on a Tues for 4 weeks and Tuesdays are his night out playing dungeons and dragons with friends so i am quite chuffed that he is prepared to miss it. Think he loves this baby more than he will admit already smile

I am in next and new look over bump jeans. Have no idea on the pocket situation as i only carry dog poop bags lol. They are comfy tho and are starting to feel much more comfy than my new look under bump ones. I cant get away with skinnies with my almightly thighs!

And i properly weighed myself today and have put on about 19lbs blush Think i am supposed to have put on 12-15lbs. Oh well if i am only 4 lbs over the whole way thru its fine. Maybe less cakes and biscuits and much more fruit!!

TobyLerone Wed 18-Sep-13 08:11:11

Happy birthday for yesterday, nature smile

I've been up for 2 hours now, being constantly battered from the inside. Huge, easily visible kicks, coupled with what feels like spinning/breakdancing. My entire abdomen is moving like the sea.
DH thinks it's amazing. I think, "get back to sleep!"

Consultant today. Can't imagine I'll be any the wiser when that appointment's finished...

extracrunchy Wed 18-Sep-13 09:26:51

Good luck at consultant appt, Toby!

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 09:42:36

Book I have the same problem! No, I didn't know they existed! Will look into it. Thanks! MrsG you would think the amount of time I have spent in Kiddicare I would have seen it, but clearly not!

Extra that's my fear! Won't be able to not eat them all!!! Frizz I am loving your tip on making two tins!!! grin

hope Hotel mirrors are NEVER kind and their lighting make things look ten times worse! Step away from the mirror!!!

Toby am loving the bake off! Dribble!

Nature hope you had a fab birthday and ate ALL of your birthday cake!!! grin

Humpty bear booties! Love it! Do they have ears (to continue your everything with ears theme)?

Toby can't wait til my tummy is dancing like that! Am sure DH thinks I am making it up that I can feel some kicks from the outside now, as whenever he tries nothing happens! Good luck with the consultant today - hope they give you some answers at least!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 10:51:12

toby good luck for the consultants appointment.

nature hope you had a good birthday, I'm very jealous of your cake! DH doesn't even like cake, he definitely couldn't make one!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 10:53:13

sultana I can't do a clicky link but it's:


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Mythreeknights Wed 18-Sep-13 11:13:16

Kelly My relationship would be more satisfying if I could have sex...I'm now starting to have all sorts of very wrong sex dreams as a result of my placenta praevia. Perhaps you could research safe sex for those of us who might haemorrhage at any given moment?

nature happy birthday for yesterday! Have some more cake

toby good luck at consultants today

sultana oh yes - we are #teamears. To the death. These are the bear booties. If I could be sure that bean would arrive before Christmas (which would, admittedly make him/her nearly two weeks early, but I LUFFS Christmas...) I would get these too. No ears, but they are cute enough to forgo ears for once.

I also got this which has ears on the bear faces, but MOST importantly can be teamed with this which I have to get (it's calling to me), and a white cotton hat with a bear face which is no longer on M&S website, but which came with two pairs of scratch mitts which have bear paws printed on them. I heart them hard. This will also all go well with this which I also got yesterday.

#teamears FTW

MrsG and sultana here's the clicky link

BookTart Wed 18-Sep-13 11:35:29

Humpty, I am also all about the ears! H&M have a few cute bits that I have bookmarked for purchase. I will, for example, be dressing my child as a raccoon and a bear She will need something to tell her therapist about in 20 years, right? grin

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 11:37:56

Thanks humpty smile and all those clothes are so cute!

I'm trying really hard not to buy too many clothes, it's my birthday in November and I've suggested baby clothes to everyone who's asked what I'd like!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 11:39:50

Book I have a hoodie that is very similar to the bear costume but grey (with ears and everything!) I'm wearing it at the moment as our house is freezing, I'm trying to find a matching one for baby...

book my wallet just gave a tiny, defeated sigh. TOO CUTE!!!!!!!

BookTart Wed 18-Sep-13 11:55:58

I can only find this really expensive one mrsg - super cute though!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 12:05:55

Aww! There was one in next ages ago, I'm hoping it'll come back in stock soon for winter smile

BookTart Wed 18-Sep-13 12:21:51
Frizz1986 Wed 18-Sep-13 12:48:49

Good luck with the consultant toby

OMG i so want to dress up my baby. Am loving all these clothes!! I want to go for a sheep and also a frog lol.

sultana I know what you mean about seeming like a loon with baby movements. They feel really strong for me and as I know where to look when the kicking starts, I can sometimes see it from the outside.
DH however never seems to be able to feel it as much.
Really want my work people to feel it too but every time the kicking starts and I think about telling them to come feel it slows down, then starts again 5 mins later.
I know Ill hate it when I get feet poking in my ribs but its still so exciting at the moment.

Only a week until my 25 week MW app too. OMG time is flying now but I so can't wait to be a mum. It is my dream job!!

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Angelesque Wed 18-Sep-13 13:40:23

I cannot WAIT to dress up my baby! Most excited about pumpkin costume at Halloween, but also Father Christmas outfits/Easter Bunny hats etc.

TobyLerone Wed 18-Sep-13 13:52:04

Thanks for the good luck, ladies!

Consultant was a waste of time. So much conflicting information hmm But I don't have to go again until December so they're obviously not that worried about me.

Kelly, I'm not entirely sure what the rules are, but you might want to check with MNHQ before posting on threads with requests for people to do your survey. IIRC, unsolicited requests lie somewhere on the scale between 'frowned upon' and 'not at all allowed'.

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 14:08:40

MrsG and Humpty thanks for the link. I googled and ordered it as so as I had posted, so it should be here tomorrow! Hurray!

Also some maternity PJ bottoms that I ordered arrived today and they are mega comfy! YES!!!

Humpty you are SUCH a bad influence! Cuteness at it's bestest! If I had any money left on my card I would sooooo be using it right now!!! grin

Frizz I am totally with you! DH did say to me "you will be whinging when LO keeps you up at night kicking and it hurts". Well, yes that is probably true, but it doesn't stop me getting excited about it and finding it weird and amazing!!!

Toby at least that is one thing no needing to go back til December....so annoying with conflicting and vague information that leaves you just as clueless as you were before you went in! I have a remedy for that - sweet potato brownies! grin You have to make them and eat them for me so I don't!!! wink

Still not heard from hospital re: glucose test, so really really hoping that means the results were negative, rather than they just haven't got their arses in gear! Please please please!!!

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 14:10:57

OMG Humpty the elf boots are SOOOO CUTEEEEEE!!!!

MrsAVB Wed 18-Sep-13 14:17:17

Will catch up properly later but... Does anyone know if the date you state you're starting mat leave can be a bank holiday?

toby bloody grrr to bloody consultants.

sultana heh I can spend your money, my money, DH's money - NO SWEAT. I am unstoppable.

MrsA no idea - depends on your work policy on BHs, I guess - we have to choose to use holidays to take them off, they're not automatic. If you automatically get them, I guess it then depends on whether that entitlement forms part of your AL allowance or not; if not, I can't see why not, if it does, I'm not sure you can officially start mat leave whilst on other forms of leave - but you could 'add' that onto the beginning of mat leave?

TarkaTheOtter Wed 18-Sep-13 16:07:06

MrsAVB in my contract BHs were in addition to annual leave so I didn't accrue them whilst on mat leave. Therefore I insisted that it start the day AFTER the BH so I would still get the BH paid but off like normal. They were a bit funny about this because they would have preferred I started mat leave on a Monday but I was annoyed with them about the BHs by this point and insisted.
If you do accrue BHs on mat leave then I suppose it doesn't matter because you can just add the day on at the end (or be paid in lieu for it if you decide not to return).

TarkaTheOtter Wed 18-Sep-13 16:08:13

Meant to add I think you can start it whenever you want but you might want to wait until the next day rather than lose the BH.

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 17:13:42

Its a bit of a minefield bank hols isnt it! confused

When will I learn to resist foods that make heartburn worse??? Stupid fresh spicy salsa! angry

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr can I please just have a rant for a second? No need to read (it's boring, I know), but I just have to get it off my chest or poor DH will have ANOTHER night of me yelling/crying about work.

I was asked to tender out our Newsletter (print, rather than email one), which I did, and saved us a hefty wodge of cash by doing so.
The new print company then took THREE WEEKS just print the fucking thing, then a further two weeks to mail it, meaning it's arrived about 2-3 weeks later than usual. Fine - that's something worth complaining about - not actually my fault, but I get that it annoys people. Our members, who receive the newsletter, HATE change, and cannot bear things being 'late' (there is no official deadline, just 'when it's always been').

So, just now - after we're closed, btw, but I stupidly answered the phone as I'm still here - this CUNTDONKEY rings me to say that he's only just received his copy, and that this is unacceptable, as so many of the events advertised in the Newsletter have now passed. I pointed out that in fact ONE (of seven) has passed, that's hardly 'so many' and explained that it's not something we had any control over, and I can only apologise. He says he wanted to start the evening class (that I'm teaching, as it happens), which was meant to start two weeks ago. Aha, thinks I - he's not on the e-news mailing list, so he didn't get the notice that the start date had changed. I check, and sure enough, he's not - that's his fault, not mine. We aren't allowed to bulk subscribe members to a mailing list without their permission.

So, I explain this, and offer to subscribe him. He says 'well, fine, but I was really hoping to come to this class'. I reiterate that it now starts tomorrow and so he can still sign up - at which point he tells me that he can't make it tomorrow or for a fortnight to come, because of work commitments. SO HOW WOULD HE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT IN THE FIRST PLACE, FFS? He'd have missed these weeks, whether it ran from two weeks ago, or started tomorrow.
Christ, people really FUCKING LOVE complaining for no reason, don't they? I am steaming.

Please, if we are all still in touch when it comes to the end of my maternity leave and I start applying for jobs, please PLEASE remind me NEVER EVER to work in a job where I have to answer the phone to halfwits and mouth-breathers. I am sick to the back teeth of dealing with this utter fuckwittery.

Rant over. Thanks ladies, I feel better.

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 17:18:08

flowers humpty, that man sounds like a compete idiot!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 17:21:12

toby sorry to hear your consultant was crap!

sultana I hope the heartburn doesn't last long.

I'm also really excited about dressing baby up, I'm not excited about next Christmas than this ad I can't wait to put her in a little elves costume!

DH has just text to say he's managed to lose his wedding ring. It wasn't too expensive and can be replaced easily enough but it's going to have to wait until after we buy the pram and baby monitor!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 17:32:03

*More instead of not
*as instead of ad

mrsG aw, thanks - you honestly didn't have to read my rant, but very nice of you to do so!
My DH lost his wedding ring - IN A BAR - within weeks of us getting wed. He is still reminded of this occasionally grin.

TobyLerone Wed 18-Sep-13 17:45:43

Humpty, I HATE people. Actually loathe them with a passion. Until I gave up work, I worked with the public over the 'phone on a daily basis. They are utter fuckwits. ALL OF THEM.
I sympathise completely. He should boil his head.

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 17:57:22

humpty he obviously had nothing better to do! Complete fuckwit! Good luck with finding a job without them though - if they arent external then they are internal....I have found that there is no escape! hmm

toby, sultana I love you two too! You lot are MY PEOPLE! <embraces you all in emotional, bosomy hug>

Now to take over the world and make fuckwittery illegal. <dons plotting hat>

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 18:05:36

mrsg thats a pain in the ass! I am waiting for the day DH does the same. The number of bank cards he has cancelled because he couldnt find them! Its only a matter of time me thinks....

Its actually quite chilly in the house now I have stopped racing around. Am currently snuggled under a blanket waiting for DH to get in.

Cant believe I will be 26 weeks on Friday! shock I have been reading about when you should start taking note of kicks and from what I gather its from 28 weeks and you should count how long it takes to get ten movements from then on, daily, around the same time of day. You should apparently get them within two hours although often its in less time than this. You should choose a time you know they are normally active to do this. When I asked my midwife, all she said was you should start feeling movements daily from 28 weeks, but as usual was vague and gave no further guidance....

Has anyone else been advised about kick counting yet?

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 18:08:12

If only that were possible humpty. I find a lot of them in supermarkets too! Waitrose not so much, but the rest of them....there is usually an abundance!

Oh god, don't get me started on fuckwittery in public places. I went to the BM to meet a friend for lunch today and growled at FOUR separate groups, who seemed to think that the perfect place to pause and take in the view was RIGHT IN THE DOORWAY of a gallery/the museum.

This is why I do most of my shopping online. It's for the safety of humankind.

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 18:22:45

Lol humpty! It always happens! Lets all stop for a chat mid aisle leaving our trolleys blocking the way. Or lets leave our trolley blocking a shelf while we wander off to get something else. Or lets not tuck our trolley in when browsing the shelves....lets instead let them stick out in the middle of the aisle. Or lets stop in the doorway to put our wallet away rather than moving to the side! Grrr! Not sure if you can tell, but I get major trolley rage!

Dont get me started on the car parks....ok too late. Lets not find somewhere out of the way to drop someone off or pick someone up. Instead lets pull out of a space and sit in the gangway blocking the rest of the traffic while the person we are waiting for saunters leisurely to the car. Or lets not put our seatbelt on before we start the car and get out of our space. No, lets get out of the space first and then drive at two miles an hour holding everyone up while putting our seat belt on at the same time! Fecks sake!

humpty what have you started!!! grin That was cathartic! wink

Mac2014 Wed 18-Sep-13 18:36:25

humpty sultana toby mrsg sat on the train home surrounded by too many cuntpuffins indulging in fuckwittery to write about.

TobyLerone Wed 18-Sep-13 18:41:06

Many sympathies, Mac flowers

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 18:48:40

You have my sympathies mac, pregnancy hormones + idiots in a confined space = not fun!

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 18:50:37

Its taken him over a year to lose it so I guess I should be impressed humpty!

sultana usually is me that loses things, I'm very careful with my rings though!

Penny31 Wed 18-Sep-13 18:54:14

Had my fair share of cuntpufffins over the last couple of days! Had to go to London for work and encountered all sorts. Main issues were on the tube, people pushing past, stopping at the top of escalators (one of my biggest pet hates!), nobody ONCE offering to help with my case despite me making a huge deal of it at every opportunity and very obviously with bump, I stood for 20 mins next to the seats at kings cross while waiting for my train and not one person offered me a seat and when one came available a man actually raced me for it and won! Once on the train people were pushing and shoving and tutting while I tried to out my case somewhere without lifting it, again no offer of help. Grrrrr am I being a spoilt brat?

People are just annoying!

Toothfairy78 Wed 18-Sep-13 18:57:40

Oh dear, everyone sounds pissed off today! Offering round hugs and loan of pitchfork.

I had a chat with head of dept. today about mardy-pants-in-the-corner of my office. I am just fed up with him droning on at high volume all day on the phone with no concern for others in the area and me not being able to ask him to turn it down a little because he refuses to even look at me. Other office buddies are barely around so don't care too much. Well head of dept went and spoke with him while i went home. Will see what tomorrow brings...I'm rather hoping he'll have moved desk!

Am also tired due to GI probs which kept me awake and in the bathroom a lot last night and covering for boss whose MIL died this week. Don't really feel like going to work tomorrow!

Mac2014 Wed 18-Sep-13 18:59:20

I was a hater of fuckwittery prior to bump, it just seems to exacerbate the hatred and make me share my opinion with those in the vicinity. Spot the shouty sweary pregnant woman commuting home!!

Penny31 Wed 18-Sep-13 19:01:58

Oh tooth I hope they move mardy pants and that you get better sleep tonight! Sleep seems to be a thing if the past these days sad

Toothfairy78 Wed 18-Sep-13 19:56:38

Has anyone had anything nice happen today?

TobyLerone Wed 18-Sep-13 19:59:24

Um.....DD came in from school and wasn't completely hateful like she was yesterday and the day before...

I'm counting that as something nice grin

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 20:01:43

tooth will keep everything firmly crossed! Well done for speaking up!

Ladies, what we need is a giant punchbag to take out our frustrations on! I completely agree with everything! Do you think the people who commit these crimes are also bothered by other people doing the same thing...? Surely not or they wouldnt do it themselves.....

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 20:04:24

toby grin

Nice things....well found out there have been two applicants for my maternity leave (hurray!) and had a great training session with a new member of staff who is lovely and on the ball, so that was really good.

Oh no, I've unleashed the RAGE!

Mac sorry to hear you're having a rubbish time on your way home. Fuckwittery is unacceptable, particularly when one is pregnant. I believe you are entitled to one small murder or unlimited spiteful glee as everyone else on the train trips over on their way to the doors, in the circumstances.

Penny of course you're not, that's awful. On behalf of London-folk, I'm sorry they were all cockwombles. Do you come to London much? If so, get a Baby on Board badge - free from TfL/most stations. It will make a difference (IME). You have earned your choice of the following: two of the non-standers to be put in the stocks and pelted with rotting meat OR all of the people who annoyed you to be struck with a mild case of the trots.

(I am enjoying pretending to mete out justice).

tooth hope they move the prat - if not, perhaps one of your pitchforks, strategically placed?

Yes, I had a lovely email from the lady who I book one of our lecture theatres from (never met her), congratulating me on impending motherhood and saying 'what lovely news'. Proper touched me - she's essentially a complete stranger.

<remembers resolution to look on the bright side>

sultana they can't be bothered by it, or they wouldn't do it. For example, I LOATHE people dawdling along platforms, particularly in pairs/groups - I have to get all the way down the Central Line platform at my stop to have a chance of getting on the train and to be near enough to the exit to make my change in under 10 mins (at Bank - platform there is horrific, you need to be by the exit). Hence, I either look over my shoulder to my 'blind spot' when walking so that I can move if needed (if I need to walk slowly), or walk right by the wall, so that I take up the least possible space. I do the same on the stairs - I'm slow these days, but I keep right over to the edge and tuck my bag out of the way so others can pass.

I'm one of those awful people though, who thinks that if they say things to the 'offenders' often enough, that eventually word will get round/the momentum will change the tide of downright stupidity. E.g. today - walking past Argos, not right next to the wall/steps down, but clearly walking past, purposefully - and a chap wanders down the steps, into my path (he saw me, as he looked at me directly, I saw him clock the bump), and stops dead, and checks his phone. So, because I am awful, I stopped dead too, instead of steering around him, waited until he looked at me, and said '^SERIOUSLY^?' in a most aggrieved tone, before walking off. I know that's not actually going to help, but it makes me feel better. As I said - because I'm horrid. grin

Frizz1986 Wed 18-Sep-13 20:19:44

Oh wow ladies. It seems like its been a bad day. I have been on the warpath too and my boss was warning people to keep clear!

One of the "management" team basically spent the whole day pissing around. He kept disappearing and locking himself away in the boss' office as the boss wasnt in today. It was basically because i think he didnt want to do any work. His phone trips to mine when he doesnt pick up and he would sit there chatting away to someone and not pick up his phone! I wanted to punch him. He is crap at his job anyway and me and my boss spend all our time mopping up after him, but the big boss loves him. We refer to him as 'the highest paid admin clerk ever' as when he is off my boss covers her job and his with no issues, and when he is in he just seems to spend the daywandering around doing nothing.

Then our holiday board for next year went up and one of the guys rolled over and booked off christmas next year....yes next year!! Bearing in mind he has worked with us for 2 years and he has had every christmas off since he joined already. As soon as the board goes up he puts his stickers up. No checking with others on his desk. He doesnt have small kids, but others on his desk do and they have had to work the last few christmases because he has taken it off. I commented to him when he was at the board because you are supposed to get all holidays authorised with your team leader and his response was 'well no one else is off'. Um yeah thats because the board only went up today and noone else is so rude that they are booking christmas next year off!
Apparently he then told his desk that it is first come first served and he got his stickers up first. I hope that they complain as he hasnt authorised it and he is being a bit of a dick!! Although said team leader for his desk is 'highest paid admin clerk' cuntpuffin!

Oh and i kept finding mistakes that people had made all of which adds to my work load as I waste time checking and correcting all the stuff they do wrong.

Have been ranting all day!! Glad that others are feeling it too. I really thought the pg rage had missed me out!

Really want some stodgy takeaway, followed by cake, biscuits, chocolate and a big cheese toastie!! Arghhhh

And also MIL called to make sure i knew i needed to get whooping cough and flu vaccine as i am pg. Duh! Does she think the MW wont have told me.

My god humpty what gave you started! Lol! smile

Frizz1986 Wed 18-Sep-13 20:24:23

That should have been what have you started lol.

toby glad u dont have to go bak for a while

Sorry to humpty and all others for their, lets face it... 'Shitty' days.

Heres to a nice rest of the week. I hope!

frizz welcome, welcome! Come in! Make yourself at home. We have plenty of rage here today, for your browsing pleasure. Bring and buy, swap it, enter the tombola and win a ragey prize - it's the Rage Fete!

I really have started something. Oh dear.

Quick, everyone - let's tell each other jokes before we hit critical mass and small planets start to be sucked into the Vortex of Rage (patent pending).

I'll go first:
How do you know if there's an elephant in your fridge?
Footprints in the custard.


Toothfairy78 Wed 18-Sep-13 20:41:40

How many Freudians does it take to change a light bulb?

Two, one to climb the ladder and the other to hold the penis...I mean lightbulb.

extracrunchy Wed 18-Sep-13 20:49:52

Hahaha love it I am also ANGRY today.

Here's a plus - when DCs arrive (if you haven't got them already) and people continue to get in the way, you can play being rude to people via your babies. So much fun. "Ooh what a horrible rude lady, eh DC? And hasn't she got a big fat bottom and silly hair? Yes she has yes she has"

Angelesque Wed 18-Sep-13 20:52:47

I am loving the rage on here tonight ladies! Keep it up!

tooth, that is OFFICIALLY my new favourite joke!

extra oooh, pass-agg rage expression via innocent children! I love it! I knew there was a reason I got upduffed.

Okay - inspired by tooth:

How many bosses <insert focus of rage in place of bosses if required> does it take to change a lightbulb?

Just one - they hold the bulb, and the world revolves around them.

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 21:02:10

I'm loving your ideas for justice humpty!

I think we all need some cake, and maybe toby's brownies too, and a hot chocolate....

BookTart Wed 18-Sep-13 21:03:15

Oh god, if I start I may never stop. Yesterday I shouted at everyone. Luckily I was working from home today, otherwise you would know me by the trail of dead....

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 21:03:47

OMG am in stitches! grin grin grin

Why did the chicken cross the road? Oh... have u heard that one before? My bad! wink

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 21:05:56

Why did the chicken cross the road? To get away from all the fuckwits and cuntpuffins!,grin

Spacefrog35 Wed 18-Sep-13 21:07:44

I've had a massively ranty day, everyone and everything set me off, there must be something in the air today that only our hypersensitive pregnant noses can detect!

Oh & I'm massively sorry if this offends anyone but it's my favourite joke.

What's got 2 legs & bleeds?

Half a dog

(Sorry did warn you)

Toothfairy78 Wed 18-Sep-13 21:15:34

LOL! Space!

Nope not easily offended here!

Frizz1986 Wed 18-Sep-13 21:17:39

Lol to all the jokes!!
Dh just made me hot choc with marshmallows. I knew i married him for a reason.

Sultanajo Wed 18-Sep-13 21:21:04

Yay ladies! Things are looking up! grin

extracrunchy Wed 18-Sep-13 21:22:49

Ooh ooh what do you call a blind deer?
No idea.

sarahleanne Wed 18-Sep-13 21:33:29

Ive had a shit day!! Woke up to a pissing massive house spider on my bedroom floor and I hate spiders as in i screamed like a ten year old girl! Then my alcoholic client rang me to ask a favour that I cannot be assed to go into but it totally screwed my day up and meant I had to ring sister in law to collect kids from school and nursery. Then piss head client breathed alcohol breath all over me for 2 whole hours and I mean stale hasnt bothered to brush teeth and had white lighting cider for breakfast breath which was literally making me urge, then he made me late leaving so I got home late!! Then im home for an hour and theres a big pissing house spider in the hallway so I hairsprayed the little shit to death and broke him in half with a plate. Dh only went away yesterday I swear the little bastards hide until hes gone!!

sarahleanne Wed 18-Sep-13 21:35:44

Ive just realised I have just made myself sound like a whore haha, replace client with service user .

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 21:49:25

Sarah spiders in this house hide until DH goes away to. The bastards.

MrsGSR Wed 18-Sep-13 21:50:11

Just to clarify, the spiders are bastards, not our DHs!

extracrunchy Wed 18-Sep-13 22:03:37

Wait wait wait what do you call a blind deer with no legs??

Toothfairy78 Wed 18-Sep-13 22:06:04

We interrupt this joke with a newsflash...

DH is back and commenced bribing me with rolos!

space that is an excellent joke. Excellent. grin

sarah <cheers> well done for spider-murder, you have clearly done more than your fair share now - time for someone else to have to hairspray/lighter, vacuum, squash or otherwise exterminate the little fuckers.

Well done the DHs who are appeasing the rage. Mine has made me coffee ice cream milkshake. He is now allowed to approach me without being snarled at.

extra still no idea...

extracrunchy Wed 18-Sep-13 22:23:35

YES. I love that. I'm sad aren't it?

MrsVDB Thu 19-Sep-13 01:04:50

Happy belated birthday nature

Frizz1986 Thu 19-Sep-13 06:09:01

I do a bit whine when a spider appears and thankfully Dh saves me. He doesn't work away so hoping I will be safe for now.

So after my hot choc I fell straight to sleep on the sofa for over an hour in an almost bolt upright position. I don't even remember Dh putting pooch on my lap so she could snooze with me (very cute when I woke up)

Have got up 4 times in the night to pee tho and pooch randomly started barking at 1am so Dh brought her upstairs to sleep with us. I love her but she is trying to use my maternity pillow as her snooze pillow. My hips are in so much pain and have had a rubbish sleep, hence now sat up writing on here.

Are we allowed to sleep on our backs but just prop our pillows up so we are at an angle. My sofa snooze was the best sleep in weeks. Do I need to check with the mw?
I fear I will be another grouch today due to lack of sleep!
Oh and to make me feel good Dh is snoring away like a trooper and pooch is curled up in a ball on my side snoozing away too.

Naturegirl82 Thu 19-Sep-13 07:15:52

You ladies make me laugh grin

I had rage yesterday too, stupid cuntpuffin cut me up twice on the way to work angry

Thanks for the birthday wishes, had a fab day and now have a pregnancy massage to look forward too smile

Not sure pregnancy yoga is for me but I'll stick it out a bit longer as I am assured the breathing practice is very useful for labour

Urgh wish it was the weekend.

Dh and I looked at some prams yesterday. Some of the prices are eye watering. Can't believe a pram could cost more than my car! shock Heading to kiddicare next weekend so will hopefully find something then

Hope today is a better day for everyone smile

Sultanajo Thu 19-Sep-13 07:42:00

Frizz I get the "night guilts" where I end up on my back "just for a second" due to hip pain and then wake up an hour or so later! I am at a bit of an angle with duvets and pillows under me (to try to combat heartburn - only Rennie needed twice through the night last night), but probably not enough of an angle for bubs... If I have ended up sleeping on my back, I tend to wake up to kicks, which then makes me even more paranoid it's because bubs isn't happy/getting enough oxygen, so quickly move back to the less comfortable side position....! My mate used to sleep completely upright towards the end of her pregnancy, propped up with tons of pillows. I think that may end up being me, although when I tried that recently my ass starts to go numb if I sit for any length of time like that in bed........lesser of the two evils - hip pain or completely unbearable numb ass? grin

OK, so here's to a day of not letting RAGE take over! Longggggg day today, but then day off tomorrow, so can't really complain too much! After this week it will be 8 weeks til I go off on holiday break/mat leave! OMG! Soooo excited!!! Just 2 weeks til NCT classes start! grin

TobyLerone Thu 19-Sep-13 08:16:56

I sleep on my back every night. Not a lot I can do about it so no point worrying about it.

Speaking of rage -- avoid Sainsbury's first thing in the morning when the online shopping staff are clogging the aisles with their massive barrow things. They are so bloody rude! They stretched this morning from one end of the bread aisle to the other, blocking everything. Then wouldn't move at all, completely blanking me when I asked them nicely if I could get to the bagels. So I huffed loudly and shoved one of their barrows out of my way.

Then, when I got to the till, I paid and was about to leave when the next customer turned up, and stayed on her phone the whole time the lady was serving her. How bloody rude! I wanted to hang her phone up for her!

So I have The Rage today and it's only 8.15. I'm also deeply regretting today's meal plan -- homemade soup with homemade pesto and sundried tomato bread. Why didn't I say we'd have beans on toast today?!

MrsAVB Thu 19-Sep-13 09:14:34

Oh dear ladies... Sounds like some stressy ragey days were had yesterday! Hope a night's sleep has done the trick?
Thanks for those of you who responded to my q around bank holidays. My problem is that not only do my employers not have a maternity policy, but nothing is mentioned about bank holidays in contracts or any other policies. In practice, everyone gets the bank holidays on top of their annual leave entitlement (full timers have to take them on the day, part timers get the time pro-rata). Plus we get 4 additional days not out of our annual leave as our office is closed over Christmas. As these and bank hols are not contractual but just what everyone gets I have no idea where I stand - any ideas? So that's why I want to put my first day of leave as a bank hol, as my due date is a bank hol, and so I can't go the date after, but want to make sure I am still a "normal employee" for as many as the days before that no one will be at work for but are not contractual leave.
Sorry, all very boring, but if anyone has any advice it would be much appreciated!

Don't worry about sleeping on your back. My MW told me to sleep however was comfortable for as long as possible. You aren't going to hurt the baby. You're body will make you move when it feels like you should.

Yesterday I felt the rage as my stupid DH, long story, but he was a pratt. Then he came home and was all lovely so I loved him again. It's so awful being this moody all the time. I know i'm doing it, but it seems like I can't stop.

I'm struggling with smelly people. I hate the stale sweat smell and it's like it's everywhere. I can't cope!

I've ordered some jeggings and some leggings from matalan, they appear to have a sale on mat clothes at the moment smile

Sultanajo Thu 19-Sep-13 09:25:22

MrsA I really wish I could help - reading that I feel as befuddled as you.... confused Hopefully some bright spark on here will have the answer!

Toby I can just imagine! The staff are the worst as they feel they have the right to put themselves in everyone's way and they should just lump it. The number of times I have huffily pushed carts out of the way to get to the shelf I (the paying frickin customer keeping them in work) need to get to! Shite, the RAGE is trying to sneak out! <quickly pushes it back down again>

I have been really bad and lazy and have gone away from the meal plans - have been knackered by the end of work and DH also gets in late. I need to eat early to prevent as much heartburn as possible, so that means I need to prepare the meals every night. Sooooo, DH bought some bagels at the weekend and the last couple of nights I have just had a bagel and some fruit for dinner and DH has made himself something when he has finally got in two hours later.... Will get back on it at the weekend when I feel more inclined to cook! We are having a slow cooked beef brisket roast at the weekend and left overs for the next few days! YUM! I can't wait!!!!

TobyLerone Thu 19-Sep-13 09:28:14

MrsA, have you handed in your MatB1? Could you get your MW to adjust the due date to the following day so that you can start your maternity leave the day after the bank holiday?

Dammit, frying! Now I'm on the Matalan site! I really love this, but I always find that Matalan maxi dresses are too long for me. I suppose I could order it and return it...

extracrunchy Thu 19-Sep-13 09:38:52

Haha Toby me too! Dunno what's happened but my spending recently is OUT OF CONTROL.

sarahleanne Thu 19-Sep-13 10:09:02

Happy birthday for yesterday nature enjoy the massage.

Woke up to another hugr spider this morning in dd's room, rang mother in law to come and rescue me! I even check my shoes before I put them on now.. paranoia!!

Shit im blubbing at kyle,what is wrong with me!!

Dont worry abiut sleeping on backs, I did with both of mine anyway.
Got soaked on the school run and was waddling up the hill, looked like a whale.

Extra not at all. I love jokes like that.
What's brown and sticky?
A poo.


frizz bless you, snoozing with pooch. I hope DH took a sneaky picture. As for sleeping on your back, I don't believe (not a doctor!) that it harms the baby even if you're flat out - it's your vena cava (large vein) you're compressing, which will affect your blood oxygenation.. oh, so I guess in that sense it might have a knock on effect. I'm pretty sure you'd wake up if it got bad though - and you only need to be not totally horizontal to take the pressure off, as I understand it.

nature did I say happy belated birthday? If not, happy birthday! And enjoy the pg massage, I loved mine. I'm starting pg yoga tomorrow, not sure it'll be 'me' either, but I want to try and use the breathing techniques, as my Mum only used that when she had my sister, and swears they are miraculous!

Toby <bows, hands over Rage Crown>. Can you buy 'homemade' style soup, decant into pan, do same with pesto, hide packaging, fling some veg peelings round the kitchen and dirty up chopping boards/utensils, then serve up your lovingly 'homemade' dinner? That dress is lovely, btw - worth seeing if you can get it taken up/take it up yourself?

MrsA god - no idea then. We had the same really awful vague arrangements before - 'everyone' took Easter & Christmas off, but it wasn't contractual, just mutually agreed - and then the boss changed his mind. I'd suggest (and this probably isn't helpful, given how incompetent your work have been so far) asking for written clarification of how you stand wrt bank hols. I think Gobbo who was on here, but has disappeared again, is an employment law type - you could PM her, maybe?

fryingpan I am so up and down with DH. Mostly, I am in awe of how patient he is with me, then he'll say something without thinking, and off I go again, crying uncontrollably. I do apologise, albeit in a snotty, snivelling way grin. Lucky DH, eh?

sarah you're just getting your share of the little fuckers all out of the way at once - everyone has to encounter a certain number of eight legged monstrosities every year, and you won't have to see any for AGES when this is over. Hopefully...

Much better today - but it did take a MASSIVE sobbing session (that's every night this week) at midnight, for two HOURS, to get me to this zen-like state. God, I am a wreck this week. I can't stop crying - everything's a bit much. If I were a Victorian lady, I'd be suffering with my nerves grin

TobyLerone Thu 19-Sep-13 11:17:56

Tomatoes are roasting for soup, bread is proving. It's all a little better now and the house smells delicious! Cooking calms me, when I can get up the energy to actually do it...

My sister and my delicious nephew are on their way over to my house, which is awesome. I love that baby.

Ugh @ the crying, Humpty. I don't cry much. I think DH would think I'd gone mad if I started crying all the time. I'm not ruling it out, though!

I bought the dress (along with some yoga pants, PJ bottoms, a vest top and a skirt) blush

I go from being really mad at dh to being really clingy. Needing to hear he loves me, won't leave, won't die on me, and that he still finds me attractive. Poor man can't win. I did it when i was pregnant with ds too so it's my go to feeling ��

i didn't get many other clothes, but just ordered my toddler more train parts for his track from ebay. He's a big choo choo fan. Drives me demented! But it's nice to see dh playing with him.

today I'm 23 weeks and feel massive. I look massive too, but it's all bump which is lucky really

Naturegirl82 Thu 19-Sep-13 12:43:48

You are all a bad influence. Just ordered three new tops off asos!

Frizz1986 Thu 19-Sep-13 13:04:04

Oh no now clothing talk. I need to get something for work as my mat trousers that I guestimated size wise at 14 weeks no longer fit my thighs and my dress I have been wearing is getting progressively shorter the bigger the bump gets. No way it will last more than a few weeks longer.
Really can't afford anything tho. Hopefully I'll start to fit the mat leggings and Ill just have to get some big cheap tops or something to wear as dresses almost?!

Thanks for the sleeping advice ladies. No sleep is making me grouchy atm. Am hoping it will be nicer waking up to a baby not just to turn my fat arse over!

mrsa i am not sure about holidays either. If your work don't have a maternity policy maybe you should ask for a meeting to clarify everything and just go in starting with so I think this is what I get off and this is how it works and see if they disagree. Then ask for it all in writing to confirm.

There are a few things that I am not sure if my work will know and as I am not too sure myself I am going in with information but stating it as a question so that gives them to opportunity to find out or just agree with me if they can't be bothered. As long as you get it in writing..... Such as 'I think my holidays are .... days. Is this right? And do I add these onto the end of my leave meaning I would come back in Feb?'

Lalunya85 Thu 19-Sep-13 13:35:43

Hello everyone,

Not sure whether i should be starting a whole new topic for this - don't be shy to let me know if I should!!

So, I have two questions:

ONE: My bump is still really small - and everyone (on this forum anyway ;) ) seems to be talking about maternity clothes etc., and I still have no need for them whatsoever. I'm 22 weeks tomorrow and although I am showing, I still seem to have a bump that "comes and goes" - there in the evenings and when I let it relax, but almost gone in the mornings or when I feel stressed. I want a bump too! Luckily, the 20 week scan showed that all is well, and I do feel "flutters" and sometimes stronger movements every other day now. Still, everyone who finds out that I'm pregnant (and 5 months at that) comments that I'm "not showing at all"!! sad I've also been struggling to put on weight (I'm still around 3lbs below my pre-pregnancy weight as a result of severe and long MS. But gaining weight now at about half a kilo a week.

TWO: Sleeping positions - I saw people here commenting on the importance of sleeping on the side. I try to do that, but not religiously! Not pregnant I usually sleep on my stomach - don't have much in terms of boobs etc, so it's usually not a problem if I use a pillow. Even pregnant - given my small bump - I can still sort of get into that position, although have to lift my leg and sort of tilt back a little bit. I also use a pillow to support bump and breasts. Is that ok? I fear that lying on my front side might be a complete NO NO? What do you think?

Cheers everyone for reading. Bit of a long one... xx I need a brew to relax I think... ;)

Lalunya85 Thu 19-Sep-13 13:43:51

Hi MrsA - I know for sure that when you are on maternity leave you are still entitled to your full year's holiday allowance. So if you were to take 9 months mat l