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October 2013 - swollen hands, puffy feet and we all need a decent sleep

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roxvox Tue 03-Sep-13 09:57:36

Time to start thread #17!

Spreadsheet here

Checking in smile

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 10:07:51

Yay I got the last post!! Hello smile

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 10:10:07

Hello, I'll repost my dribbling confession:

And yes roxvox I mentioned dribbling - it's so bad I'm sleeping on a muslin (see they do have a million uses!)

Thanks for the confidence in the name everyone smile

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 10:12:31

Just looked at the spreadsheet and there are lots of ladies on there wh haven't posted here in ages, if you are lurking, come back! Especially you, sisteroutlaw because I love your name choices. Especially Aldous, love love love! And Oberon. Can I have an Albert Oberon H--- B---?! (The last two are surnames that will out me)

Going with my maiden name as a middle name, that's the H---, partly because I find the practise of taking husbands name outdated (although I've done it!) and partly because that's how it's done in Spain. The doctor asked us AGAIN whether we were brother and sister at our last appointment, I mean, come on!!!

roxvox Tue 03-Sep-13 10:16:14

Glad it's not just me pseudo! I wonder if it is a pregnancy thing. I will have a Google of that later in between my 30 second spurts of doing actual work

Umlauf I would love to use my maiden name as a middle name (my maiden name is obscure and recognisable, whereas the one I have taken from DH is a more common surname), but because it obscure it is so obviously a surname and so it would not work as a middle name. Loving the fact that the doctor keeps asking you if you are siblings!

roofio87 Tue 03-Sep-13 10:20:18

checking in, thanks for new thread!!
I think baby has turned round a bit, not quite transverse, but a lot more diagonal with feet at the top right and head at bottom left so fingers crossed he just settles himself back down!!

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 10:27:33

Thanks for the new thread, rox. Love the title, jelly.

I'm dribbling too, I didn't connect it with pregnancy but very please you all think it is!

Loving the name talk, I like all mentioned. Read a book recently with kids Timothy - pet name Moth, and Rapheal. Love them both, though I hate moths but its cute and love Raffy, though they used Raph.

My bump has dropped!! I know it doesn't mean much, but I can hope. Just when I thought it was going to turn into a table too. DS has grasped there is a baby in my tummy, I'm so surprised and pleased! He has been extra cuddly with my tummy, insisting on laying his head on the bare skin and stroking it. I'd thought its because it was comfy and very big etc. Well yesterday he was blowing raspberries on it and then said "tummy moving" I asked, "is my tummy moving?" (I hadn't noticed) he replied "Nej (no), baby moving!!". Last week he blew a raspberry and looked very shocked when baby pushed his face, but lost interest, or so I thought as I explained what happened.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 03-Sep-13 10:28:33

Thanks for the new thread - feel a bit of a fraud because I don't have swollen hands or puffy feet (will a swollen puffy vagina do instead? blush )

Sephy Tue 03-Sep-13 10:32:29

Checking in for the new thread after a long absence / lurking period! Hope everyone's ok and all blood pressure worries are settling down.

Had my first nct class last night and had the smallest bump there despite being the earliest due date by almost 2 weeks. Oh well, grateful to be a bit less uncomfortable than some others.

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 10:40:56

Eeepppp, a puffy vagina trumps all! Poor thing x

Sephy Tue 03-Sep-13 10:45:23

Tarlia your Ds story is really cute. How old is he? Do you think he has any idea what it'll be like to be a big brother?

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 10:46:14

Checking in.. I wonder how many babies will be born on this thread?! Mine needs to come at 37 weeks as it is kicking and head butting me to death grin

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 10:53:00

Ok the first pressing matter of my first DS-free day of ML, before going shopping for hospital bag stuff is to watch Dexter from the beginning. I'm 15 minutes in and finding it a bit.... hmmm. Should I carry on?

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 10:54:23

Umlauf I just looked at brand ally to buy those boots and they've gone hmm

However they have loads of Sergio Rossi boots and shoes and they are loads cheaper. One of my fav shoe designers. Must not buy must not buy. grin

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 10:56:30

Oh dear flyer I'm such a bad influence!! Did they still have the studded ones? I liked them too! I think they were in the outlet section not the private sales.. I've never tried Sergio Rossi but cheaper is good!!

AnythingNotEverything Tue 03-Sep-13 10:56:48

I have neither swollen hands not swollen feet, but I'm glad to be here nonetheless.

I have washed the baby's clothes and they're hanging on the line. I'm working from home but I can see the line over the top of my laptop and I can't stop grinning!

34 weeks today and two more weeks until mat leave. Very jealous of those of you who are further along!

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 10:57:34

these ones flyer just lovely! But £££

claphammama Tue 03-Sep-13 10:58:57

Checking in!

textbook Tue 03-Sep-13 11:02:12

Checking in - good luck for the scan today Falcon!

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 11:05:40

I saw those umlauf but in the camel colour. I'm just gonna buy them and hide them when they arrive. grin

DP wouldn't have a clue if they are new or old. When I see shoes I Iove I imagine wearing them and something inside me turns into this possessed crazy woman that just has to have them, my life would be incomplete without them grin I'm like that girl out of the shopaholic books grin

Haylebop12 Tue 03-Sep-13 11:11:40

Checking in..... Off to the zoo today as its dh's last day off before dd starts school. It looks like it might rain but never mind we shall have a good day :-).

Catch you all up later.

Pinkforboys Tue 03-Sep-13 11:29:53

Umlauf & Flyer I'll join you in the shopoholics corner grin I picked up a pair of similar boots in the V-P Camper sale this summer but have a rubber sole and fur lining. Heal not that practical for pushing a pram around, but I'm sure I'll find a way to wear them...!

Sympathies to all those suffering from puffy feet etc. Puffy vag def trumps the lot. I'd just add saggy veins...

JellyCurls Tue 03-Sep-13 11:37:21

I don't have swollen hands or puffy feet but figured I was in minority and it helped make a wee rhyme. Checking in for thread 17 while wondering what thread my baby will appear on

sisteroutlaw Tue 03-Sep-13 11:39:54

Hey there! Yes I have been lurking umlauf! I get behind reading the posts and like to comment on what people have said to make it personal, as everyone likes a name-check wink. Makes us hormonal lot happy.

Yes to using Oberon! Albert Oberon is ace - the combo is arty/literary/and yet down-to-earth. I might suggest Albert again as DP has a Hitchcock box set. Names are chosen for far more tenuous reasons.

Am struggling again with names as get the slow nod of dislike/indifference for most of my suggestions. My sister in law affects a strong East End accent for the name Ray angry, ignoring what it means: ray of light/hope and the sound of it (calm and strong and true). Meh.

Bridget I am with you on swollen, er, bits. Such a body betrayal. Cannot mention to ANYONE face-to-face but here? Easy grin

PseudoBadger I lost interest in Dexter [flakey] I'd go with Orange is the New Black if it's Netflix you're on.

cuillereasoupe Tue 03-Sep-13 11:42:10

I had my bloods done yesterday (I have them every month because I'm not immunised for toxoplasmosis) and the guy guessed from the size of my bump that I was four months preg with a girl hmm. Wrong on every count buddy.

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 11:44:42

sephy he is almost 2.7 but bilingual so still not at long expressive sentence stage, though he seems to understand everything, when he chooses to listen, typical toddler. He loves babies and is very kind and gentle to smaller kids, but it's very different when you are stuck with it every day I guess. We will see, I hope he will be fine.

badger def watch Dexter, it's great. Agree the first couple are a bit strange, but you'll be hooked.

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 11:46:48

Welcome back sisteroutlaw.

Anybody seen cherrycherry41 in recent times? Are you lurking as well cherry?

Pink and Umlauf after months of feeling like a complete frump and not being able to wear heels (other than suffering in the name of fashion at weddings) I say we all deserve to buy ourselves some trendy boots or shoes which are totally impractical for buggy use but sod it they'll look fab when we are walking down the street (or more likely round the house in my case) out with the flats bring back the heels grin

Warlin Tue 03-Sep-13 11:48:38

My goodness 17 threads already! Surely there will be a birth on this one smile

Sorry for the me me post but im stressed out. Went to mw and baby has turned transverse again. Heartbeat and growth fine but lying right across me. As I'm 36 weeks I've been sent for a scan this Friday. Hope he turns as the thought of a section terrifies me. Also mw said if I go into early labour it's dangerous as if waters break and the head isn't pushing down it can suck the cord down...eek. Terrified now as my waters broke at 37 weeks with ds. She said to keep as active as possible and not sit around to encourage him to turn...bloody typical as I that's exactly what I wanted to do for the next couple of weeks. Thought I was on the home straight but now I've all this uncertainty sad

Off out for dh's birthday lunch but will catch up on posts later. Hope everyone is doing ok.

roxvox Tue 03-Sep-13 11:54:39

Sorry to hear you've had a stressful morning Warlin. Fingers crossed for you that baby turns before your scan on Friday.

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 03-Sep-13 11:58:44

Checking in. Neither swollen hands nor feet (well, not permanently anyway) but definitely in need of sleep. Ironically, I slept better last night and feel worse today!

sorry you are in the same situation warlin, hope baby turns. My scan is actually 3.30 i got it wrong but as i said i am petrified of cs too apparently 80% turn before due so fingers crossed xxxx

Smitten1981 Tue 03-Sep-13 12:27:13

pseudo YES carry on, Dexter is my favourite, love it! Although the first two series are by far the best, so if you're not liking them you might not fare well later on. I was gripped from the start.

I had a rubbish night last night, my tummy really hurt and i felt sick all night, combined with the acid reflux that was not fun.

Something is sticking out of my side towards my back, I realised it hurt when I was sitting on the sofa and it dawned on me it was the baby, it feels very hard so not sure what part it is but I can't lean on the sofa arm until it moves - grrr!

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 12:39:26

Warlin hmm I hope she turns ASAP these babies are a worry.

Good Luck Falcon.

I've just booked in for my placenta to be picked up, steamed in chilli lemon and ginger and retuned in herbal tablet form grin I've to take in a 2litre Tupperware box to the hospital with me, and ask the mw to pop it in there with some ice and it will be collected later by the lady who will transform it! She is a mw and does it at her home grin £150. I reckon you'll all think i have a screw loose. I did turn down the placenta smoothie though, honest mixed with berries and banana for a quick instant shot before you start on the tablets!

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 12:50:12

Hiya, is it ok if I join? I'm due 12 october, making me 34 weeks. I'm starting to struggle a little bit and would love to chat to others around the same point as me.

I'm having a girl by cesarean at 39 weeks (if she hangs in there long enough). I'm excited but terrified! Hope you don't mind me joining in.

Sparkeleigh Tue 03-Sep-13 12:50:40

Wow, how fast do we get through threads?! Checking in grin

Umlauf lol, that's so weird! Surely no one has ever said yes to that!?

pseudo I love the name Caoimhe... It's so pretty. On a completly separate note, I can't stand Dexter, it makes me want to throw things at the TV...

Warlin I haven't looked at it, but I've heard lots of people recommend the website spinning babies to get the baby to turn? Fingers crossed for you... flowers

Smitten I've been taking Yakult for about a month now, I was wondering if they were actually doing anything but I ran out last week and now my reflux/heartburn is back in force and ouch! I got more on Sunday and I'm hoping they kick in soon... Might be worth a try? I didn't have to buy more galviscon until last week!

17.5 working days till maternity leave! grin

Hi ladies just checking on sparkly new thread!

Flyer actually a bit jealous of your plans for your placenta! smile DH would never support me in doing it, he won't let me have a home birth either!

Hope all the naughty babies get themselves in better positions over next few weeks, pretty sure this one is no longer head down as getting massive movements all over as opposed to the one side jabs I was getting last week, it's very stuck out to the front, neither low or high, just out! will post pic to fb later!

HotSoupDumpling Tue 03-Sep-13 13:06:00


Hello heffalump! I'm also feeling a mix of excitement and terror.

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 13:17:14

Hello sister ! It's frustrating to have other people's opinions of names thrust upon you, isn't it. I do love Ray as well, I knew some lovely old man Rays (all sadly passed away) but it makes me feel warm and loved whenever I hear that name because of them. It has such lovely connotations. Albert is an awesome name (of course I'd say that!) but wasn't Hitchcock and Alfred? Equally as awesome, especially if you say it in a northern accent a la Downton Abbey "young Alfred!"

And hello and welcome heffalump LOVE the user name, my parents live nr ashdown forest and we used to go on walks looking for heffalumps! Never saw them but often found their droppings (chocolate buttons!) congrats on your baby girl, do you have any other children? Do you have names in mind?

Sparkeleigh they think we're siblings because we have the same surname and nobody in Spain does that. Instead they have two surnames, the mothers and the fathers, so if you were Jane smith jones and you married John brown green, your child would become baby smith brown (I think). So when they see two people with the same surname they automatically think 'siblings!' It's just bothering me how much they are questioning it! They are going to try and give our baby the same surname when we register him, so he will be Albert B-- B--, which is why I'm hoping that my marriage certificate and old passport will be enough to get my maiden name on there as the first surname in Spain, and as a middle name in the UK (if that makes sense!!!)

Which boots did you get flyer in the end, do you have a link?! I always use the "oh this old thing?!" line on Dh!! It usually works... I told him about your placenta thing and how I wanted it done and he thought I was bonkers! I don't think I'll be able to do it here in Spain, but its great what it says about holding off the baby blues. I'm really worried about those, I'm prone to emotional problems and am really worried about PND and how it's diagnosed and treated here. pink a fur lining sounds amazing, perfect for long winter walks with the pram. I might buy some fur insoles off eBay for these new boots (if there is room in them, I doubt that considering the size of my feet ATM!)

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 13:50:00

Umlauf I went for the studded camel ones. I don't know how to put a link on here that enables you to click onto it.

Yeah I thought I'd give the placenta thing a whirl, it may well be a load of old cobblers but I've lost months of my life in the past through depression (only mild) but I've often struggled to get out of the house, been on medication, signed off work etc so I thought £150 was worth it if it helps me not get PND and dp was very supportive and offered to pay. He has many faults especially of recent, but I give him his dues he always supports me in things i want to try out.

Welcome to the bus heffalump smile

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 13:51:56

Pseudo I also love your name sorry I can't spell it and can't scroll back, but the pronunciation sounds classy but unusual. I've never heard of that name before and really like it.

snowgal Tue 03-Sep-13 13:52:20

I've been lurking... mainly because I find it hard to keep up with how fast the thread moves!

33 weeks now, and baby is either sleeping or wriggling like bonkers, unfortunately we don't seem to be able to coordinate our sleep patterns so he/she is going crazy in the night. Finding pregnancy much harder this time round with a toddler to look after, DS is 21 months and is yet to sleep the whole night through, however I see this a good thing as it means being up all night with a newborn isn't going to be such a shock to the system this time round! Have a lovely routine of being sick every morning which hasn't helped me enjoy this pregnancy, I have a phlegm-y cough and my gag reflex means as soon as I start coughing I have to be sick - which means I've given up on having breakfast. As suspected midwife doesn't think there is anything they can give me so I'm just counting down the days (49 days according to edd) until this pregnancy is over....

For those with breech babies, DS was breech from about 28 weeks and steadfastly refused to budge one little bit. Had two attempts at ECV (one with male consultant who thought he could move baby by brute force - mildly uncomfortable... second with female doctor who had one try then agreed that DS's bottom was wedged firmly into my pelvis). I think the most concerning thing with ECV was the fact it was done on labour ward (so we could hear other women giving birth) and the fact that they had to have a theatre prepped incase I went into labour there and then. As I think someone mentioned the ECV success rate isn't particularly high but I was keen to do anything I could to avoid having a ELCS. Spinning Babies website does have good suggestions, similar to those suggested by my yoga teacher, however I can't help thinking that sometimes a baby is breech and there is nothing you can do about it. Oh and I tried moxibustion (alternative therapy suggested by various midwives at the hospital) absolutely horrific give me an ECV any day, seemed to involve therapist burning a huge stinky cigar between my toes...was supposed to keep doing it at home but there was no way I was having that stench in my house. Although I was really keen to avoid having an ELCS it turned out to be a really calm, if somewhat surreal, experience, and I was lucky to recover really quickly.

Fingers crossed that this time I'll get to have a VBAC, baby is head down so now dependent on placenta having moved up and consultant agreement (he seemed quite pro-ELCS). If it wasn't for DS I would be happy either way but hate the thought of not being able to pick him up for 6 weeks (he's a robust nearly 14kg)

You guys have some lovely names chosen, we're still undecided. Probably Florence or Flora for a girl and pretty clueless for a boys name yet again (it took 4-5 days to name DS)

Sorry for all the rambling.

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 14:01:58

"I've just booked in for my placenta to be picked up, steamed in chilli lemon and ginger and retuned in herbal tablet form" Oh my goodness! <pushes away steamed oriental salmon lunch> grin
Why do they have to 'cook' it like that? I do admire you!

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 14:18:43

Hello! Thanks for the warm welcome smile nice to know I'm not alone in being slightly terrified.

Umlauf - this is my first baby, and we have decided to call her Daphne, middle name Annabelle. As long as she doesn't arrive and look nothing like a Daphne!

Snowgal - my baby has turned nocturnal too! I feel her every time i wake up to use the loo, which is now a ridiculous 8 or 9 times a night! She has little wiggles in the daytime, but nothing like the acrobatics at night. Worryingly I have been told its an indication of their wakeful periods once born!
It's nice to hear that your elcs experience was positive, I'm bricking it about mine.

Has anyone else had problems with fainting? I keep passing out sad I'm eating and drinking plenty so I'm not sure what's wrong. Seeing the midwife thursday so will ask then.

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 14:34:23

Tarlia and Sephy after reading your bilingual discussion, I wondered if anyone else on here is/will be raising a bilingual baby and will any of you be introducing a third language at a young age?

Our baby will get two languages from birth and we're really keen to expose it to a third as early as possible.

Started working this morning at 7.30am as woke up way too early. Was napping by 12pm and woke in time for a conference call at 2pm. Now in a complete daze!

legallyblond Tue 03-Sep-13 14:36:11

Busy busy today..... Will catch up later, but checking in. Still here in one piece... One week to go! This might be the thread when the twins arrive! Sorry - I'll pick up with everyone later.

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 14:46:16

serious although we are both English the baby will be in a bilingual nursery from about 11 months, I'm quite worried as he will only have heard English and then go straight to hearing 2 other languages (Spanish and Basque). Every school and nursery here is either only Basque, or half Basque half Spanish, so we don't have the option of just Spanish. I've read it has a delaying effect on speech development so I'm a little concerned, but as we don't have a choice we will have to go with it!

We will try and speak Spanish to the baby as much as possible but neither of us are fluent and it will be quite unnatural. I think the baby will be linguistically very confused.

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 14:52:39

I don't know, I go back to work and not only is there a whole new thread, but pages to read and lots of new people grin <waves>

Looks likely that the start of my maternity leave will be delayed for a week (20th Sep) but we'll see how this week goes.
Hope everyone is ok and fx for all breeches/scans.

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 15:08:51

Hi Umlauf - they do say sometimes babies/children who are exposed to 2 languages sometimes take longer to vocalise themselves fully at the same rate as monoglots, but once it clicks, there's no stopping them! I wasn't exposed to English until I was 5 years old and I don't even remember actually learning it. It was just something else you absorbed. I like to think I turned out ok so I'm sure your DC will be fine and it will be invaluable for them in years to come.

Maybe I'm being a bit ambitious too soon with introducing a third. It will get one language from me and one from DH...maybe we just gauge as we go along when to introduce the next one!

char1eston Tue 03-Sep-13 15:22:06

Welcome heffalump and welcome back lurkers - good to have you back in the fold smile
As umlauf said if there's anyone else lurking, do come back and feel free to join the Facebook group if you want to (currently posting bump pics, recipes and nursery photos). If you pm me, I can add you.
Love your names, pseudo. Wish we could agree on something.
I've been a bit of a dribbler too and getting an exceptionally dry mouth. I also had a funny dream last night that I got married! It wasn't to dp though but to one of the dad's in the Nct group!!!

Sparkeleigh Tue 03-Sep-13 15:22:20

umlauf oh, I see, sorry! I was skim reading and now I've re-read your original, that makes sense.. well, as much sense as it's likely to!

Hi snowgal!

Hi Heffalump - possibly your blood pressure is dropping? I know that can cause you to faint. Might be worth giving your midwife or hospital ante natal unit a ring just to talk it though with them before Thurs? I went into mine with some concerns last week and they were really nice to me so I didn't feel like I was bothering them about nothing if that makes sense...

roxvox Tue 03-Sep-13 15:31:43

Apparently (according to my latest Google search) - pregnancy hormones increase the amount of saliva you produce, therefore making it 'easier' to dribble at night! So we can blame it on the pregnancy grin

Welcome heffalump! We have a spreadsheet with our mumsnet names, due dates and likely baby names here should you feel so inclined as to join us on it/have a nosey at what the rest of us are expecting/when/name ideas!

2 days and 2 hours of work left to go... Roll on 5.30pm on Thursday!

roxvox Tue 03-Sep-13 15:33:40
PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 15:36:43

Well I've done absolutely nothing today on my first day off. DP will not be impressed grin

cazboldy Tue 03-Sep-13 15:44:07

I am feeling really tired, even though i slept well last night.

Just back from taking my 4 youngest and my niece and nephew to a nearby farm for a youth training day, and have been on my feet all day, and helped with the bbq lunch etc. Was fun, but am soooo tired now, and all achey from standing for so long.

Serious My dd1 turned just before being born, but dd2 came out face up, in the bath, with me on my hands and knees with the mw just arriving and running up the stairs.

Only thing i woulds say is that I didn't have proper contractions. With both I had a bad back ache, and a really heavy feeling, once dd1 turned I had 5 contractions and she was born, so happened very quickly, although I had suspected what was going on, and mw was there.

With dd2, It felt like someone was wringing my legs like a dishcloth (sorry only way I can describe it) and hurt like a chinese burn! I had a few contractions, but nothing strong or regular, until I suddenly felt like I needed to push! Mw had rung me (it was the day I was due, and she had to pass my house on her way to work) I said I felt funny, and was in the bath, and she said "I'm on my way", and as I said arrived as dd2 was arriving!

This time they said to ring a soon as I suspect anything to give them the heads up!

cuillereasoupe Tue 03-Sep-13 16:03:50

Our baby will be bilingual French-English seriousstuff, DP is French. I'm trying to work out how to get Cbeebies on our telly ATM.

Dd2 was fluent in both English and Kurdish by 2 1/2. Having a second language certainly didn't affect her speech development in any way. Her dad spoke to her in Kurdish all the time and we had Kurdish tv on throughout the day.
Me and her dad seperated shortly after her 4th birthday and because she didn't have someone to speak Kurdish with daily she gradually lost it all together. She's almost 11 now and barely knows any Kurdish.

I think apart from taking the kids to school and hospital appointments I am going to stay hone until Eliana arrives. I'm completely exhausted after my trip into town today.

Welcome back to all the lurkers. Heffalump like spark says it could be your blood pressure is low. I have naturally low blood pressure that is even lower during pregnancy and have had fainting spells too.

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 16:23:27

SeriousStuff where will the third language be coming from?

Umla if I were you I'd not speak Spanish to baby as this can confuse things even more. You should ideally only speak your mother tongue directly to children, or family language when talking together. I've many expat friends here who are monolingual at home, when baby starts nursery at 10 months they do just fine and pick up the language. It does have a delaying effect ie I'm sure most other 2.7 on this thread are fully conversational, but they do get there and he comes out with so many new words each day, knows all colours in English and can count go 5, so he is 'slow' if you know what I mean. Exposing kids to language at a young age is such a gift as it opens pathways which will not close.

char so funny about marrying NCT dad :D

badger that's exactally how you should have spent your first DS free ML day.

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 16:24:30

*isn't 'slow'

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 16:26:08

cuilli have you considered getting Netflix or just watching things on YouTube? You can find full shows on there and if you have Apple TV even better as can make it project from YouTube into main tv.

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 16:31:00

char1eston I'm dribbling a lot too. If I have a nap, I wake up with my hair stuck to my face and cushion because of the moisture - euck!

You've reminded me of some of my dreams too - I dreamt that I met Desmond Tutu last week!

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 16:35:26

Thank you Tarlia!

sisteroutlaw Tue 03-Sep-13 16:46:17

Ah yes umlauf, Hitchcock's an Alfred not an Albert. Doh! DP would not be impressed by such an error. Anyway - Hitchcock's quite a good source for names: our cat's called Marnie. Might look at box set again.

Thanks for the thumbs up on Ray! My DM loves it as does another friend. Will reinstate on my list. What middle name would work with it?

Got a hmm look from colleague for getting up again (after 90 mins sitting...) in a bid not to do the jerk nod off.

Pseudo I second that as the best way to spend your first ML day.

Bring on home time...

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 16:50:49

Ray works really well as a middle name with lots of the names you like, so Aldous Ray Surname Or Benedict Ray Surname. I think it also depends on the syllables in your surname. My brother and my mum both go by their middle names, in the case of my brother just because the order sounded better with his actual name in the middle.

I've got the chickpea curry on the go! I can't remember whose recipe it was, I think shirehobbit ? Anyway, I've added too much salt, any ideas what I can add to dilute the salt? Sugar??!

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 16:54:32

Ds's middle name is Raymond smile

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 16:55:31

Tarlia we were thinking of finding a Spanish playgroup, so when DC gets to playgroup age, it would be a good way of introducing a new language. Two of my sisters speak Spanish as a third and fourth language so at least someone would know what was going on! And it would be a great way for me and DH to learn a third language too.

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 16:57:13

And thanks Caz - maybe a possible quick birth is the silver lining then?!

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 16:58:58

It wasn't my recipe, Umlauf - maybe Orangeblossom?

A portato added to the pot should soak up some of the Saltiness Umlauf.

Sparkeleigh Tue 03-Sep-13 17:06:24

Oh, that was mine umlauf, umm, could you double up the chickpeas? That would dilute it a bit...

Back from scan and she is HEAD DOWN grin

She is sort of in a question mark shape. She is measuring 41 weeks so following her 4 weeks over curve they are not worried at all. They have assured me i will have an actively managed third stage and I can labour in the water grin grin really hoping for good news for you too warlin and flyer xx

doobeedee Tue 03-Sep-13 17:09:35

Wow. I can't believe how many posts there have been since I posted this morning. Umlauf, yes that's right, 36+1 but I reckon that's wrong. Just had my 36 week appointment. Got weighed for the first time since booking. Had put on 1 stone 4 pounds so pretty happy with that. Of course, I'll probably balloon in the next few weeks! She also felt the baby's position for the first time and confirmed that it is head down. I'll probably find it quite difficult to name check a lot on here as I only use the iPhone app which makes it difficult to look back! I'll try though. How can I join the Facebook group? Is it a hidden group?

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 17:10:16

I have a jar of chickpeas left and DH is bringing potatoes with him on his way home! What do u do, just put in a whole

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 17:10:46

Potato? Do I take it out or just add it to the recipe? Thanks!!

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 17:12:46

Brilliant news, Falcon - you were due a change of luck!

Smitten1981 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:25:46

Good news Falcon!

My mum came over this afternoon And I mentioned the WC jab fiasco. She said I had a WC vaccination when I was younger so I should have the antibodies anyway. Suppose I'd better Google it and see if it needs topping up or if you're set if you've already has the jab.

pinkbuttons Tue 03-Sep-13 17:26:00

Just checking in on the new thread although have clearly missed so much already!!

Great to hear baby is head dow falcon all ready to go now grin

Welcome to all those who are new and welcome back to some familiar names smile

Very impressed by all cooking attempts, at 35+3 here and goal for the week is to get this hospital bag packed.
Saying that I just got stuck in a lift at Birmingham new street station and am now having painful tightenings though not regular at the moment. Lift went up then dropped a floor about 5 times, bump and toddler less than impressedsad Now just resting on DHs orders until he gets home. Hope everyone else has had a lovely day.
Exciting at the prospect of babies been born on this thread! grin Surely it will last till next week for you legally!

cuillereasoupe Tue 03-Sep-13 17:31:11

Thanks for the ideas Tarlia, I watch a lot of stuff on youtube but I'll have a look at Netflix.

DP has just announced he absolutely can't get out of work the two nights before my due date. I know it's the nature of the job, but I am not impressed.

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 17:31:29

Congrats, falcon. I'm so glad things have started going your way.

pseudo (?) I've been sleeping with a tissue under my mouth and nose and had the idea this morning that I should use one of the baby's muslins. That's what they're for, right?

umlauf I second what everyone else's a saying in that bilingualism is perfectly natural for young children. I was three when my family moved to Canada and started junior kindergarten. They just put me in with the kids and I was at or near the top of the class in less than a year. If anything my parents' broken English at that stage hindered me. I remember trying to work out in my little head whether I should say birthday or birssday (like my parents). That's not a judgement of your Spanish but just to say put him in with the other kids and he'll not only survive, he'll thrive.

I'm feeling beautiful today. Someone had to fix my top before clinic started because my boobs "would scare the children," I noticed the horrific state of my hairy chin that I was hoping wasn't too bad, and I waxed it int he work bathroom, then I noticed a nose hair sticking out for the first time in my life. Add puffy vag to the list and seriously it's like I'm a glamour model. hmm

Sparkeleigh Tue 03-Sep-13 17:32:22

I googled it umlauf and it looks like its supposed to go in whole to broths, so it might not work depending on the pan you're using...

This site has an interesting theory for removing the salt using vodka! Setting fire to the dinner might be going too far though hmm www.genuineideas.com/ArticlesIndex/potatosponge.html

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:32:23

Well done willow!!

Pseudo why are you wobbling about Caoimhe? Is it the pronunciation being in the UK? It is a lovely name. Dh and I also liked Saoirse for a middle name but will probably go with Orla as if its a girl will have a Nigerian first name so don't want to give two names difficult to pronounce! We can't agree on boys names at all so better be a girl smile. Thought maybe Darragh as a middle name but dh also pushing for a family name which I don't want as not done in my culture and not mad on the names smile

Hope you've recovered from fall sparkle

Welcome heffalump and hi again lurkers!

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 17:33:22

Smitten you'll probably still need the jab. I had one about 8 tears ago for uni and still had a WC jab this time.

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 17:36:32

Sorry if my previous post sounds like I am showing off. I just wanted to emphasise that kids can do well even if they are thrown into a school in their non-native tongue.

You could chop the potato Umlauf if you are going to just add it to the recipe. It will still help soak up the saltiness. It works quite well if you've added to much chilli too.

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:40:00

Drooling and puffy vagina here too shock

How glam are we!

There was an article in the guardian recently about bilingual families and how you should speak your own language to baby and they ll be fine. I ll try and find it and link but I am officially crap at that sort of thing blush

It's ds birthday tomorrow! He'll be three. I have a very strange child, have been asking him if he wants a scooter and he keeps saying NO! Dh asked him what he wanted yesterday and he said a lollipop, an elephant and a cow ???

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 17:44:10

Apparently, when I was three, I wanted a duck (as in a real live one) and a yellow torch with white spots on, Chickie. And I have no recollection as to why.
But my Dad duly tippexed white spots onto a yellow torch, which I still had when I went to uni, 15yrs later.

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:46:50

I'm off out to look for an elephant and a cow smile

I ll tell dh your story shire! I think he can manage to get the lollipop grin

roofio87 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:52:44

shire that is so sweet of your dad!!
I asked my nephew yesterday what we should call the baby, he said 'Oswald'!!! my sister has no idea where he's even heard that name!! but then when my mum was expecting me my sister wanted to call me 'toilet window' so I guess kids are just strange haha!!

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 17:55:09

Chickieno I read your post as "drooling over a puffy vagina" shock I must read more carefully!

Do you cook lots of Nigerian Food? I enjoy eating the food, everything served with jollof rice. Lagos was one of my regular routes I used to operate.

Smashing news falcon I bet you are chuffed smile

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 18:07:42

Hahahaha flyer!

My jollof rice isn't too bad but my dad makes the best jollof rice with lamb stew! He s coming at the end of October and he's like a mother hen so will cook loads smile

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 18:09:07

Yay for head down Falcon!!
Chickie I don't know I just had a panic this morning about it. I'm not too worried about prounonciation as people will get it eventually wink

My sister is half Nigerian and my 2 brothers half Ghanaian (My mum is also mother of nations) so my mum cooked a few African dishes when we were growing up. I love peanut soup. Maybe you should post some of your recipes on the fb page for us all chickie

So happy that it looks like you're going to get the birth you wanted falcon.

Sephy Tue 03-Sep-13 18:27:10

I got booked in today (33 +2) for an ELCS at 39 wks in case the baby hasn't turned from being breech because apparently CS slots go like hot cakes, so need to book early!

Have to say I quite like the idea of having a known delivery date, especially as DH is going to struggle getting time off if I'm 2 weeks late, but CS date ties in v nicely with his half term... So good to hear snowgal's positive experience last time.

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 18:27:17

mon I'm crap at recipes blush. Anytime dh asks me how I made something I can't tell him. I put a pinch of this a dash of that, different spices each time. Most of the time it turns out ok grin. I learnt to cook from my mum when I was quite young and this is how she cooked so maybe that's why. I think with Nigerian cooking once you have the basics of the dish there are so many variations probably depending on what people have available at the time. There are some good recipes online will post them on FB.

Also meant to say earlier I too am scared of baking. Would love to be able to bake and think ds and dh would love it too smile. clapham s domestic goddess daydream was brilliant smile

Thanks everyone I am so pleased and relieved smile

ooh peanut soup sounds amazing, I have just had a full plate of pasta with turkey and tomato and mascapone sauce I ate it all! easy to see im very pregnant!

Wickedgirl Tue 03-Sep-13 18:39:03

So pleased for you falcon

pseudo dexter and breaking bad are both fantastic IMO.

I can't believe how fast this thread is moving.......I was here this morning, come back after a busy day and the old thread is done and the new thread is several pages long already!

This will probably be the thread that sees a few babies being born

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 18:39:27

Mon I remember seeing goat soup with fufu on the menu everytime I went to Ghana. Like a bunch of kids we used to laugh at the fufu bit grin I'm sure it's lovely just never appealed. I ate goat curry once and wasn't keen, in fact it knocked me sick. I loved Ghana sadly we have just stopped flying there so I will never go again.

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 18:53:06

Wicked DP and I are watching Breaking Bad most evenings, Dexter is for me during the days grin

It sounds like your cooking's a lot like my mums chickie She can never tell me how something is made.

The trick is not to chew it flyer just dip it in and swallow. I make it with semolina but my mum used to make it with ground rice sometimes and I hated it.
It would piss me off no end when I would smell the chicken stew cooking and get excited them realise she'd made ground rice fufu to go with it.

Warlin Tue 03-Sep-13 19:01:20

falcon great news...I'm very envy! snow thanks for your post....it's mainly the fact I won't be able to lift ds at a time when ill want to give him lots of cuddles that worries me about a section. That and the driving issue...I'm not good stuck at home!

Thanks sparkleigh I have used spinning babies though mw said the best thing to do is stay active so I'm keeping up all the dog walking.

Welcome all the new comers and congrats on your pregnancies.

Loving all the name chat!

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 19:02:00

We are watching The killing - subtitles are exhausting me though as we don't tend to start until 9.30, by which point I could sleep!

SeriousS fab way to do a third language, but wandering why if you are in the UK? Sorry just being nosey, not rude, as I'm all for language. I also have friends whose 2.6 has two home languages (English and Swedish) and a nursery language Danish (he started at 2 years) - its pretty amazing as my DP's mother tongue is Danish so the little boy uses words of that language to speak to him. My son speaks Danish and English but the boys speak together in English as that's what they've grown up hearing myself and mum speaking.

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 19:02:32

* wondering not wandering hehe

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 19:06:10

Tarlia I could never watch The Killing unless I was wide awake! We've got series 3 sitting on sky planner to watch but we've been too worn out for the last few months smile

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 19:21:57

Have to catch up with series 3 of the killing tarlia and pseudo. Wasn't a fan of the ending of series 2 so I think that maybe putting us off. If you haven't already seen it try mad men!!

mon and flyer my sister s dh is from Ghana. I've never been but she's just been to Accra a few weeks ago. She flew virgin and they got upgraded on the way out smile. Not a fan of fufu at all and cannot eat semolina. A childhood aversion. Goat stew done well is nice. I cheat and use lamb. And peanut (groundnut) stew is yum. Had a flatmate at uni that made the best stew. It's mainly from northern Nigeria.

sephy it's nice to have a date for baby s arrival!! Mine is in 4 and half weeks!!! Not ready at all

roofio87 Tue 03-Sep-13 19:27:31

im half way through season 4 of breaking bad so not quite up to date, but dp is obsessed with it. I have to find something to occupy myself for 40 mins later so he can watch the latest episode!!

Sephy Tue 03-Sep-13 19:34:20

Definitely agree chickie.

All this food talk is making me really curious about what these african dishes are like - what exactly is fufu?

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 19:36:47

Nice to hear your family got upgraded chickieno. It's good to hear positive stories about my employer.

sephy I make a version using semolina which is made by mixing butter water milk and semolina I to a thick paste similar in consistancy to mashed potato. You then pick pieces from it and dip it into the accompanying soup or stew. Lamb chops are great for the stew. You all need to try the peanut stew. It's amazing. I make a simple version from onions chilli tinned tomatoes vegetable stock and peanut butter.

Lack of apostrophes there. Sorry

textbook Tue 03-Sep-13 19:50:49

Yay Falcon grin

Baby keeps poking her bum out again today. She is so wriggly compared to dd1, it must be the anterior/posterior placenta difference I guess. I use a kick-counting bracelet on some days, but she's so active I find myself moving the elastic thing all the bloody time! I thought they were meant to sleep sometimes..?!? Does anyone else have a super-active bump?

Mmm... Agree the African recipes sound lovely. Off to google various bits...

chickieno1 Tue 03-Sep-13 20:11:43

Question, where do you ladies think has the best muslins? Need to get some more

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 20:29:38

Wow this thread moves fast!

Really pleased for you falcon it must be such a relief. smile

Textbook - my baby sticks her bum right out too, sometimes right round in my side. It's very strange.

Thanks for the advice re fainting, I phoned my midwife and was told that I should get myself a drs appointment tomorrow sad weirdly though she said that she thinks it's my blood pressure, but that it may well not be connected to the pregnancy, hence sending me to the gp. Seems a bit strange, i've never had problems like this before.

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 20:30:50

Chickie my best muslins are from John Lewis, they are lovely and thick. I have some from Boots and they are much thinner.

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 20:32:44

chickieno - I've bought mine from tesco. They are nice and big and lovely and soft. They perhaps aren't as thick as others, but they are a really good price. I think they will do the job nicely smile

roofio87 Tue 03-Sep-13 20:38:15

chickieno I've got some asda muslins that I think are really nice.
textbook my bump is so wriggly too. I don't get through ten minutes without feeling movement, its very nice though!

skullbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 20:49:26

Hello ladies

I would just like to delurk for a minute to thank you all - I've been on the threads since the very first one but as you ladies love to chat it has been quite difficult to keep up and catch up and consequently participate in the conversation.

You've all virtually held my hand through this second pregnancy - I was originally due 02/10 but now at 36 weeks have been given a date for an induction for next Tuesday (and of course I'm not ready wink).

My little bump is small for gestational age and I've been having twice weekly scans and monitoring with the consultant as DS was born 34+4 for unknown reasons and also because I have essential hypertension and fibroids.

You've all been there through the deadly heartburn, the sore hips/pelvis, the moods, the overheating and now the insomnia and drooling lol grin.

I have used my first week of maternity leave to rest and finally catch up on this thread.

I'm definitely sure this is the thread we'll all have news of our first babies!

Again - thank you for being so chatty and helpful.

skullbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 20:51:21

though duh! I remembered little Josie was born a little while ago

Natalieand Tue 03-Sep-13 20:53:38

Interesting jelly if we are using a thread every 10 days my baby should be born on thread 21 lol

I too do not have swollen hands or puffy feet. Although if I have a busy day my feet r agony as if they r swollen but deffo don't look swollen

I'm not dribbly, infact I'm the opposite my mouth is as dry as the Sahara desert at night its horrible

Welcome heffa xx p.s my Muslins are from kiddicare and sainsburys buy I may buy some more if I get a chance I like ones with nice patterns lol

Excellent news falcon so pleased she's head down and all ready for labour!

tarlia and pseudo how r u both feeling today? Hope your bps are behaving themselves

Dd is back at pre school tommorow yiipppppeeeeee lol
Baby has had hiccups for a good ten minutes now... At first it was cute, now its Annoying :-/ I'm so tired but the last few nights I've been weeing 6+ times a night. I always feel much more refreshed when I only need two wee's

Think I've remembered everything I needed to reply too. Sorry if I've missed anyone x

Natalieand Tue 03-Sep-13 20:54:36

Oh yeh chickie if ds wants a cow how about getting him some plastic animals and farm sheds/play set ? X

Hello everyone I actually took notes today as I had no hope remembering 6 pages of chat!
Badger me and DH are hooked in dexter, even though I don't like horror/gruesome things usually.
pinkbuttons eek at being stuck in the lift! If you had gone into labour that's the sort of thing that makes the news!
shire why is your mat leave delayed? Ofsted or just yr head teacher's list was too long?
umlauf love the bookshelf idea, I like having the covers facing forwards. Agree on putting a whole potato in and throwing it away once it has soaked up the salt. Or just add extra everything else to water it down and freeze the rest. Sugar sometimes works too.
Glad willow has turned falcon and warlin and sephy I hope yours turn soon too.
Hello snow oh no you must be the unlucky percentage that get morning sickness throughout, how rubbish!
Welcome heffalump and other lurkers. I hope you get an answer in the fainting and it is something easily fixable.
Eek Caz at the fast labours! I hope you get enough rearming this time, although you are a pro at it by now!
smitten yes the advice is you need WC again even if you have had it. I had a tetanus booster 2 years ago and still had to have it again.

First day back was fine, went on a course by Dylan Williams who is an inspirational educational speaker and easy to listen to, though hard to get back into a routine of weeing and eating when people say I can and sitting on a small hard chair. One of the teachers is in hospital so I will be covering her class when the children come back. Not the easy first few days reading with all the children in the year group I had planned!

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 21:04:35

It's the midwives!!!

Does anyone have muslins they don't recommend, lol? I have the m&s ones with cute animals and love the pattern on them but have no idea about quality.

Our friend came for tea. She is about 8 weeks now and it was so funny to talk to her ad though DH and I were the experts. grin I have to say no matter how uncomfortable I am now I would not go back to the first trimester for anything.

Pinkforboys Tue 03-Sep-13 21:05:36

Wow- at this rate we'll be on the next thread by the weekend!

Just had my first pg yoga session- nice to return after 6 years grin
Reminded me that o.m.g. this bump is going to have to end in a birth shock (is it just me that's been ignoring that part?!)

So pleased to hear that the babes have started turning- there's hope for Madam yet as I'm pretty sure she's lying transverse again.

Chickie I remember hearing a radio invention programme once where someone suggested a cross between an elephant and a pet dog. Can you imagine it trotting from the door with your morning newspaper rolled in its trunk?! Would have been perfect for your DC...

Re: WC jab, my SiL was diagnosed with WC last week and was told the vaccination only lasts 8 years, hence the request for us to get it done again. Mine's tomorrow- wish me luck!

textbook Tue 03-Sep-13 21:07:19

Skull glad you de-lurked smile Good luck for next Tuesday - we will be waiting to hear your birth announcement!! More October babies!!!

Smitten1981 Tue 03-Sep-13 21:07:40

Ahh boo, thought I'd get out of the jab, seems not. Thanks for the advice people in the know. I promise I'll stop obsessing now.

Chick, best muslins by far for me were from Sainsbury's, they were £6 for a pack of 6, they're pretty big and the clincher was that I got some with cute monkeys on. They're packed away in my hospital bag ready and waiting.

Hello skull I hope all goes well with your induction. How exciting and scarey. Stay on the thread and keep us all updated.

Muslins are the only things I have never used with any of my babies. I might just have to go and buy some for this wee one.

Pinkforboys Tue 03-Sep-13 21:10:53

Orange- v sensible.

I forgot to say 'hello' to the newbies & lurkers.
Pinkbuttons your lift experience sounds horrendous- hope you all sleep ok with no nightmares.
Nat my DS is back at school tomorrow too and I feel awful about how relieved I am! I'm looking forward to a day of silence, washing old toys and baby clothes and putting together the changing table (at last!) Oh- and catching up with the GBBO whilst DH slaves at work wink

Hope your sil is ok pinkforboys.
My baby has hiccups too. Quite irritating after a while!
I think we will get through threads much quicker now more people are on maternity leave and that the end if in sight.

I'm not having the vaccine smitten. My sil who is a nurse and is due any day now hasn't had it either. There have been no cases of wc in Scotland so that's made my decision easier though there is the worry in the back of my mind about how catastrophic catching wc could be for a child with a heart defect.

Wickedgirl Tue 03-Sep-13 21:28:26

skullbabe I hope everything is ok with your small bump and you deliver a good sized baby

chickien I have the m & s Muslins and they are fab. They are thick and slightly larger than most other muslins so will hopefully be more absorbent too.

nat My mouth is ridiculously dry at night too. My nose keeps bleeding so is always blocked which means I have to breathe through my mouth all night which leads to me snoring and a very dry mouth. I wake up, have some water, get comfy then need the toilet. Get back into bed, fall asleep, wake up with a dry mouth etc

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 21:28:58

My baby is a chronic hiccup-er - seems to have them 5+ times a day. Very irritating after a while!

Orange - the list isn't obscene, but there are also some field trips in the third week that are really struggling for staff. So as long as I'm fit and able, seems sensible to keep earning a while longer...I may change my mind next week!

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 21:34:52

My baby has the hiccups at least 3 times a day and repeatedly headbutts my cervix with every one. sad not fun!!

HeffalumpTheFlump Tue 03-Sep-13 21:35:49

Good luck for Tuesday skull!!!

Are you going on the field trips shire? confused doesn't sound like a great plan... Hopefully you can cover while others go on the trip and do the far away from school/lots of walking and standing stuff. That is what I am doing during the year 6 residential during my last week. I probably would have stopped at 37 weeks otherwise but should be a nice week, usually just a few well behaved girls with anxious parents left behind.

JellyCurls Tue 03-Sep-13 21:38:40

I haven't had WC vaccine either ladies as no medical professional has mentioned it to me. I did however end up with whooping cough last year so hope that leaves me immune. Nobody I know had it so don't know where I got it from, just the luck of the draw.

Bad BH again tonight think its going to be this way till I deliver, boo

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 21:41:06

I'll probably go with them, tbh Orange. They're Geography trips to Castleton in the Peaks and I know them quite well; there will be a bit of walking, but lots of chances to rest too. I'm still walking several miles a day with the dog anyway, so feel reasonably confident I would be ok.
But we can review next week.

Is there a definite return date for the colleague you're covering for?

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 03-Sep-13 21:42:58

warlin your fears are the same as mine re cs, I can't imagine not bring able to pick up ds when he will need some serious reassurance. He screamed blue murder when I picked up a friends newborn the other day. He was quite happy playing on the floor so I thought good time to have a cuddle and he speed crawled over clung to my leg and howled until I picked him up. Not a good sign of things to come.
Also having watched the midwives and seen the section footage- ugh! And also I struggled to feed ds last time because my milk came in so late- we did get there in the end but it was harder than it should have been I'm sure.
I'm basically terrified of c sections!

No, she has been signed off for a week but is keen to come back ASAP as it is her first year as an nqt so I don't think it will be much more than the first few days.

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 03-Sep-13 21:44:54

Is anyone else watching this twat on The Midwifes? We don't want any pain relief hmm. Glad the midwife checked whether the mother was actually happy with that...

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 21:45:09

That's a tough way to start your NQT year!

roofio87 Tue 03-Sep-13 21:46:11

shire I spent every summer of my childhood in Castleton with my grand parents!! I love it so much!! im jealous, even if you so have to go for work!!

Shirehobbit Tue 03-Sep-13 21:49:10

It's a great place, Roofio - last year, we were nearly washed down the hills by torrential rain and gales! Fx for better weather this year smile

I am recording the midwives for later in the week. DH has agree to watch this one with me as the info box thing said this episode was about hospital vs midwife unit. As our hospital doesn't do tours hopefully it will help us to see what isn't is like and the experiences in the two.

MrsHoratioNelson Tue 03-Sep-13 21:52:36

Orange it's really good for that - the differences are quite apparent. Not sure how much that unit is like others elsewhere, though. It looks pretty luxurious!

Sanjifair Tue 03-Sep-13 21:54:57

MrsNelson, we thought exactly the same. The midwife clocked onto him straight away though.

I was also amused by the DH with the water birth. He just looked so bored. I couldn't stop giggling at him.

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 22:00:09

Sanjifar and MrsHN: I think they had a professional interpreter at the end. I hope so. That husband was making me uncomfortable, speaking for his wife like that.

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 22:14:21

Just popping on quickly to say the potato worked! Thankyou sparkeleigh and motherofnations !!

Sparkeleigh Tue 03-Sep-13 22:18:48

Lol, I was just coming on to ask umlauf!

Midwives - I've been afraid to watch it, or OBEM in case they freak me out. This episode with a midwife unit sounds good though, should I watch it? Nothing too scary?

Tarlia Tue 03-Sep-13 22:20:29

Welcome skull and heffa.

I have a date! I'll have baby in just over 2.5 weeks wooo. Hope this pain all vanishes like last time too.

p-buttons you poor thing, sounds really scary. Have things settled down? Is DS ok?

orange with a sick note she isn't allowed to come back before its up due to insurance reasons unfortunately. At least it always used to be that way.

We love cute muslins here, but def worth having some plain ones too for later when weaning starts so they can be bleached if needs be. Carrot is a bugger to get out of anything.

ana it was lovely to hear about your language experience, can't remember the word you used in the following post, but no, not in the slightest! It's also lovely that you remover that confusion for me (sorry)but I harp on about this only speaking mother tongue and people so often raise an eyebrow.

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 22:23:17

Sparkeleigh this episode still showed the delivery suite and a premature emcs, although it was among the least traumatic episodes I've seen. Sorry if that's a spoiler, I just don't want anyone to watch it and be freaked out.

Natalieand Tue 03-Sep-13 22:28:10

I cannot believe that arrogant pig on midwives

Then 5 minutes later dh decides to test his luck

Dh starts 'suggestively' stroking my arm
To which I said ' please don't I'm not in the mood for that'
'Be greatfull I'm letting u have pain relief'
To which I then replied- as if I need your permission

Knob! I tell u these men sometimes, but on a serious note even dh commented that he couldn't bare to watch how arrogant that bloke was and that he uncomfortable to watch. He often asks me questions about what's going on which I quite like as it shows he's showing an interest like he asked what delayed cord clamping was and meconium. I guess we just assume they know all these things?

wicked that sounds exactly like my night time routine + enth of digs to dh to try and disturb his snoring. Worst bit is the cat has decided to sleep up against my bedroom door for some reason and makes like an obstacle course getting out my room without my feet being attacked or tripping over the furball.

Umlauf Tue 03-Sep-13 22:28:26

Thanks for the language tips, I won't speak Spanish to him then (I can barely speak it anyway!) but make sure when I have Spanish friends round they chat to him in Spanish and at nursery he will have it.

Speaking of which, those of of you who watched the midwives programme.... Should I avoid it? Sounds from what you've said it was similar to my situation (although I won't get a professional interpreter and hopefully have a nicer husband!) I was going to watch it on catch up tomorrow...

I had it for dinner sparkeleigh and still managed to have enough left over for 5 meals (for two) in the freezer!!! It was delicious and so cheap to make as we already had the store cupboard stuff!! Thank youuuu

Natalieand Tue 03-Sep-13 22:30:26

tarlia and orange if u/someone wishes to return to work before the specified date on a sick note then they need to make another gp appt and get a separate certificate which is 'fit to return to work' dh had the same recently and had to get one to return just one day early x

Natalieand Tue 03-Sep-13 22:31:42

umlauf no need to avoid if based on language alone. The husband was just a knob regardless of any language barriers, well that's the impression he gave me anyway x

ananikifo Tue 03-Sep-13 22:39:46

Tarlia I'm glad I helped. DH studied linguistics and it is generally accepted that although multilingual children may be a bit delayed int he beginning they end up naturally learning all the languages they are naturally exposed to. I've actually lost most of my Croatian, because my parents ended up speaking English with me so I would definitely encourage any expats to continue speaking their mother tongue at home.

umlauf I've replied to you on the other thread but honestly the couple on midwives were really weird and they gave me creepy vibes that I doubt you would. Is your DH's Spanish good enough to translate for you?

HotSoupDumpling Tue 03-Sep-13 22:54:59

Clapham, we've put up baby bookshelves (picture ledges from Ikea)!

Re Muslins, do NOT get mothercare ones. We bought John Lewis ones as my friend said they were the softest. We were given mothercare ones as a gift and they really are rougher, and with a looser weave. I wouldn't want to put them next to my face for a long time.

That husband in Midwives!!! The way he was taking about his wife set my teeth on edge ('I'm really pleased with her'. Wanker), even DH was a bit taken aback!

Hello Skull. I'm measuring small but haven't had a scan yet. Good luck with the induction!

claphammama Tue 03-Sep-13 23:04:17

wow... 155 posts already on this thread??? Where do I start? And doubt this thread will see a baby at this pace!

DP's birthday cake was delicious grin grin grin - so I now believe that baking is accessible to humans! thanks for encouraging me! chickie definitely give it a try! And please post some Nigerian recipes on FB - would love to try some (also not a fan of semolina though)

pink I had my WC jab earlier today. It didn't hurt at all although my arm feels a bit sore now. Nothing too uncomfortable though

About bilingual children - my DS is bilingual, we spoke only Italian to him at home (mine is native standard though umlauf) and he picked up English from the nursery, TV etc... Language was never a problem although he tends to respond in English when someone speaks Italian to him. I never introduced a third language as it was just too complicated - it's hard enough switching between two languages with him. However, this evening, he asked me totally out of the blue "mummy can you teach me Polish please?" Where on earth did this come from?? I never speak it in front of him as have no Polish friends and no family here and I totally forget I'm Polish most of the times, actually struggle to find words after 20 years when I have to speak it! How weird! Also, a great example - there is a Chinese boy in DS's class who didn't speak a word of English last September. Not even hello or goodbye. He is fluent now and speaks with perfect English accent and in full correct sentences. We all find it so funny! They are like sponges - honestly, don't worry about them being left behind. And I just remembered that my friend who studied languages with me at uni ended up doing PhD about bilingual children but I never asked what her conclusions were...

warlin hope the baby warlin turns soon... x When is your next appointment?

And what fantastic news for you falcon! smile

flyer yes, you are bonkers grin

tarlia good you have your date now!

And welcome all newcomers and lurkers. Really sorry if I'm forgetting someone... all 155 posts are now muddled up in my head...

claphammama Tue 03-Sep-13 23:07:00

ah and I'm also a big fan of John Lewis muslins! I knew I forgot something extremely important grin

hotsoup you couldn't have put it better (husband in the midwives) - what a wanker...

skullbabe Tue 03-Sep-13 23:08:57

That husband on midwives was seriously creepy - but I did wonder if there was an element of "lost in translation" - he was Russian and English was not his first language so maybe he didn't mean things the way they came across........but then so many of us felt uncomfortable with him - it was just really weird confused

claphammama Tue 03-Sep-13 23:12:05

hmmm... his English was very good and he clearly said "she won't have any pain relief"... don't think it was a language issue, just the attitude. I was also shocked they decided not to have any scans throughout the pregnancy...

Flyer747 Tue 03-Sep-13 23:16:00

Yeah total pair of freaks that couple on midwives! smile

PseudoBadger Tue 03-Sep-13 23:16:39

I'll be watching it tomorrow on Day 2 of doing not very much....

Haylebop12 Tue 03-Sep-13 23:27:32

That husband made me feel uncomfortable too. I understand that he had to translate for his wife but it was the constant use of "we". No darling you are not pushing a baby out your vagina, your opinions count a little but ultimately its not your decision.

So I've finally started making room for baby...

I came to the conclusion today that I definitely don't forget im pregnant but I do seem to forget I'm actually going to get a baby. If that makes sense. Got the feeling the school mothers will be thinking "oh my god, she's STILL pregnant" on Monday morning! I certainly feel like that!

Very jealous of all you with second/third languages and that your children have had/will have that opportunity. Languages was my weakest at school. Our children will get a choice of accent... Mancunian or Black Country grin

SeriousStuff Tue 03-Sep-13 23:57:27

Hi Tarlia - you're not being rude at all! Basically, DC will get Welsh from me, my family, friends and school (as it's my first language), English from DH (although he's learning Welsh too and will take this opportunity to enhance his own vocabulary), in-laws, other friends and also in school and we just wanted to take advantage of a child's amazing ability to take on languages by introducing a third.

I wish my parents had done this with me, because you get to a certain age when learning languages becomes a chore! I only spoke/understood Welsh until the age of 5 but when English was introduced, I just don't remember actively learning it - it just happened and over the years I became completely fluent in both.

We decided on Spanish because you can use it in Europe and South America, plus it's fast becoming a force in North America too. It's also fairly transferable to languages such as Italian etc...

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 00:52:45

Clapham that's fantastic that your bilingual DS is interested in learning a third language. Will you try to do that with him? I'm guessing he still speaks Italian with dad and is beginning to learn French at school too!?

SeriousS that will be fantastic. I wish DS second language was more transferable but they do say once those paths in the brain are open, like you at 5 it becomes easy to take on more language.

ana such a shame you ultimately lost your MT. Do you pick it up again if visiting Croatia though?

Won't be long now until you meet little shark, hayley!

Who was thinking about calling baby Ray, it's gone? I think it really suits classic middle names like James, Edward Thomas etc If you are still a bit wobbly over Ray, how about Jay?

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 00:54:42

Oh and this is me awake for a loo run after an hours sleep, but body wouldn't turn off, so now another hour has gone confused. Not enough napping today it seems.

SeriousStuff Wed 04-Sep-13 01:04:51

I've napped too much today and then eaten way too much sugar. Will be another couple of hours before I feel tired I suspect...

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 02:14:43

Urg, 30 min reading my kindle, 45 min fidgeting in the dark, still no sleep. It has reminded me of my pregnancy insomnia that I had in my first pregnancy though. Feel lucky not to have that symptom this time and feel sorry for those that do.

SeriousStuff Wed 04-Sep-13 02:33:35

Good luck Tarlia I'm off to try and sleep!

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 06:14:06

What clever kids u lot have! Dd only speaks English but then again dh and it English as are our families and we live In England so she hasn't had an opportunity to speak another language, I admire those that do though, very clever :-)

I just slept from 10.30-6 with only 1 wee break at 1am its practically a miracle I feel so refreshed!!

Dd back at pre school today and I have consultant and scan at 10.30 . Another peek at the little (still nameless man)

Have a lovely day everyone I will catch up with everything tonight xx

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 04-Sep-13 06:38:50

Got out of bed at half four after tossing and turning for an hoir. Now I have to "get up" and go to work sad

Three more days until mat leave...

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 06:45:00

Good morning MotherShips. Hope you all had a better night than me! Off to the hospital this morning for my weekly bloods and monitoring, wish me luck.

Nat enjoy your scan this morning. Always lovely to see them and get another picture though all squished up now smile

HotSoupDumpling Wed 04-Sep-13 06:51:52

Good luck Tarlia!

Another disturbed night here. Random parts of my body are boiling, other bits re cold and clammy. Delightful.

Good luck today Nat and Tarlia.
Didn't know that about fitness to work notes, interesting. I will let her know if she tries to come in early.

Have a good day all!

Hmm not sure you do need a fit note as long as your employer agrees you can come back... link the head certainly wouldn't say no!

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 07:27:45

Thank you!

Ah, sorry for the misinformation, orange. Seems its all changed with the new system of 'fit notes' rather than the old style 'sick note'.

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 08:04:46

Almost joined the night shift last night- can't blame pg symptoms, just a big bowl of very dark choc ice-cream at about 10pm. My tolerance for caffeine is about nil, so my mind was buzzing 2 hours afterwards.

Wow- Ds is already dressed and ready for school. Had a bit of a wobble first thing, but he's now excited about a new teacher, classroom, and seeing his friends again. Phew!

Good luck Talia and those seeing Docs today.

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 08:13:28

natalie im so jealous, I went to bed at 10 but was up at 11 30, 1, 3, 5, 6 and 8 for a wee. where on earth does it all come from?!?! good job I have nothing to do today but go to asda to pick up some things I ordered!!
30 days till due date here, we're really on the final count down now!!!

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 08:17:56

ps in the first few months of breast feeding a newborn I'm going to look back on last night as a good night's sleep aren't I?!?!!!

Iheartcrunchiebars Wed 04-Sep-13 08:24:52

Morning ladies!

Roofio this is completely tmi but I've found my second bladder! After going for a wee if you lean right forward you go for another wee! This means I only got up twice last night. (I can't believe I'm having this conversation!!)

Is anyone else having a second wind of energy? I feel like I'm 5 months ago and raring to go. It's so lovely after weeks of grumpiness and whinging!

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 09:00:22

Unfortunately not Iheartcrunchies I'm still whining here grin

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 09:27:43

Second-to-last day of work, and I am taking a quick Mumsnet break after sending 1 email.

I only seem to have to get up 1-3 times in the night for a wee. But I do do the rocking back and forth thing to make sure my bladder is empty (it doesn't always work for me). Then I usually drink about one third of a pint of water before I go back off to sleep as I seem to be relatively thirsty by night.

Working from home today, which is just as well as I have the mother of all backaches. I have a MW appointment at 2.30 so will mention it to her. It's up quite high on my back, and usually a good nights sleep gets rid of it, but having had a relatively pain free day yesterday I am surprised to wake up in so much pain today!

I watched that midwife programme last night. I didn't like matey's 'We' thing either, but I do think it was a slight case of 'lost in translation'.

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 09:30:22

iheart I do try to do that but probably not so much in my sleep deprived state during the night, but will try to remember tonight! !

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 09:35:18

Help please!
Just got my nightshirt through in the post but it's a little tight on the hips.Not sure whether to go thru faff of getting larger size or not. Can anyone remember if you immediately lose some hip-girth after delivery? I'm def a lot wider then my norm, and I'm sure it's not all cake...

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 09:54:29

Sorry pinkforBoys but I cannot help!

Out of interest, for those of you who know the sex of your baby, how true are you finding the old wives tales? It fascinates me that (because we don't know what we are having) people are so keen to guess what we are having and are asking me loads of strange questions/asking to see me from behind to try to work out what I am having. I know that they are called 'old wives tales' for a reason, but just for fun I would be intrigued to know what those who know what they are having think. Let's just go for a few;
- Do you prefer savoury or sweet (sweet = girl, savoury = boy)?
- Have you lost your beauty (yes = girl, no = boy)?
- Did you have morning sickness (yes = girl, no = boy)?
- Is your babies heart rate mostly over 140bpm (yes = girl, no = boy)?
- Has your partner gained weight in the pregnancy (yes = girl, no = boy)?

That's probably enough for now smile. According to the above I am 3/5's likely to have a boy. Although the majority of friends/relatives (and DH) think we're having a girl, but I am not convinced either way yet.

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 09:55:39

(as you can tell, my second-to-last day of work is going exceptionally well)

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 09:56:13

3/5 for girl but I'm having a boy, confirmed 3 times smile

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 09:59:03

roxvox 4/5 of thosr say yes I'm having a boy (which I am!!) well, not sure about the loosing my beauty bit but people do say pg suits me!! only one not true is the heart rate, his has always been over 150. I also have a 'boys bump' very neat and low!!

Haylebop12 Wed 04-Sep-13 09:59:17

rox I'm carrying a boy. I'm craving savory, not sure if I had much beauty to begin with... Awful morning sickness, hr generally around 140, dh gained weight but think that was mainly up to the pregnancy not during it. Don't think I'm helping much grin

All of them for girl 5/5 and i'm having a girl, maybe some truth after all!

Trying to have a chill day today

Good luck with hospital appointments and scans nat and tarlia

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 10:11:56

Pink glad DS went back to school ok - DD was very nervous about her new teachers and we had a bit of a wobble over her school shoes (one moment too tight, the next fine) but we made it there on time.

When she was lining up to go in, she turned to give me a brave smile and a wave but I could see her eyes were all teary.....and my heart broke just a little.

Do hope she settles in ok this term - her new teachers have a reputation for being rather strict and 'old school', whereas she's had lovely warm and friendly (but firm) ones so far.

Just trying to gather up enough energy to walk the dog - it's becoming a real challenge these days and seems to set off quite intense and uncomfortable braxtons. How are other dog-walkers coping? Impressed you are still managing such good distances Shire.

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 10:21:12

bridget I don't have a dog, but did walk up to our local square yeaterday, not particularily far, about 1 1/2 miles and was suprised by how hard I found it. I'm normally fine to walk there and back but got bus back yesterday. baby has changed position slightly too so my bump was really hurting by the end!! going to walk to asda today (can you tell im trying to fill my time!!) which is about 2/3s of a mile so will hopefully be easier!!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 10:22:02

rox - don't know the sex of this baby but I've always heard that craving citrus is a sign you are carrying a girl. Last time I was pretty much mainlining orange juice all day long and had DD.

Craving orange juice again this pregnancy but not with the same intensity, much, much sicker this time around....so we will see...

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 10:23:49

Re. dog walking my 2 get at least 30 minutes off lead with a ball each which I kick around a couple of fields. I walk at a reasonably slow pace. During my first pregnancy I couldn't kick due to pgp so I used a chuckit instead, however it's not too bad this time which is good. They then may get another on lead walk after DS has gone to bed if I'm not too shattered or if I can guilt dp into doing it.

SeriousStuff Wed 04-Sep-13 10:25:14

3/5 says boy but I'm having a girl, apparently...

During the day yesterday I slept for around 6 hours on and off! Then went to sleep last night at 3am as soon as I started to feel a bit dozy. Was feeling great at 7am when I got up so why, by 10.30 am I already tired!? Naps or no naps, I just can't seem to get it right.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 10:26:00

roofio - good luck on the asda trip...just the school run has wiped me out already. I fear my poor dog isn't going to be impressed with today's walk.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 10:27:25

Oh and on the days I have to take DS with me to the fields the walks end up being longer (about 50 mins) and may involve me carrying him and his fecking bike for a bit too...

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 10:28:42

I'm having a boy and only 1/4 of those say I'm having a boy (can't go upstairs to check preg notes for hb while the phone engineer is here). I've been really enjoying orange juice as well. Not sure what my bump says.

I ate a bag of oranges every day in my first pregnancy and had a boy. Having a girl this time and heartbeat is 150 and was craving sweet things for a while. I'm not losing my looks particularly. I've even been able to give up wearing foundation and as Dp is around 17 stone anyway it would be hard to tell if he'd gained a few pounds.

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 10:43:07

I come out at 2/4 (stolen beauty & sickness) so officially could be either! I've no idea about hr as no-one's ever taken it- dr & mw just listen and say it sounds good and healthy hmm
But the citrus craving swings it my way- I crave fizzy water with lemon & lime all the time despite it aggravating my reflux.

Bridget there were a few teary eyes in the playground this morn- mainly Mums leaving their youngest in Reception for the first time. I feel for you <hug>

And walkers- I'm impressed. I walked to yoga last night (15mins) and felt like Thomas the Tank Engine- struggling up the hills and then speeding down the other side! I hadn't appreciated how strong gravity is before this bump!

MrsHoratioNelson Wed 04-Sep-13 10:48:03

Re the sweetness craving, my mum went off sugar in her tea when she had me, but my friend (who went on to have a girl) developed a sweet tooth when she was pg.

I guess this all demonstrates that the old wives takes are fun but hardly accurate grin

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 10:49:41

I'm having a boy roxvox and all of those old wives tales are right for me except the one about partner gaining weight.

Just in waiting room now, I've had my scan the sonographer said she can't comment too much as that's the consultants job but 'he's definately a big baby'... Grrrrrrr8

claphammama Wed 04-Sep-13 10:52:20

Day two of trying to work from home with DS around. I may give up in a second and go for a quick walk in the park. The boy needs to be walked and I need a cappuccino. Both emergencies right now.

good luck with your appointments nat and tarlia!

little sleep here again... in addition to all the usual things, last night I also couldn't sleep on my left side because of my painful WC vaccine arm. How long does it take to wear off?

tarlia I would love to introduce a third language but no idea which one... I speak five in total so would love DS to speak at least three. And no idea if they are doing French at school. They didn't in reception. Do they introduce French in Year One orange? And does the language vary from school to school or is it always French?

What a beautiful day in London today? Is it gorgeous and sunny everywhere?

Haylebop12 Wed 04-Sep-13 10:59:17

Just a quickie, as I've started washing baby's clothes... Is anyone washing socks too or just vests, babygros, blankets and Muslins?

claphammama Wed 04-Sep-13 11:02:04

and not sure I believe in the old wives' tales. I am having a boy (again and confirmed twice) and this pregnancy is so different. My bump is very much the boy shape but I've been craving sweets occasionally (I never do normally), I had some sickness in the first months (none with DS) and the heart rate varies a lot. As to my beauty... can't see beyond the dark circles under my eyes right now... don't feel particularly attractive...

claphammama Wed 04-Sep-13 11:04:00

hayle I didn't bothered with socks. The only things I didn't wash

claphammama Wed 04-Sep-13 11:04:21

*didn't bother

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 11:15:57

Oh gosh I'm watching Midwives and finding it so traumatic sad sorry this will be a self indulgent post. First I felt judged by the vbac midwives, especially that one who said how 'disappointed' she was that Lauren has gone for an elcs. I wish I was as brave as people having vbacs.

Then seeing that tiny baby in nicu just like my DS (although he wasn't as tiny) - I was surprised how upset I got!

Still watching....

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 11:30:12

Thanks for all of your feedback re the old wives tales; it's all obviously quite hit and miss! I do like reading about them though.

Fingers crossed the consultant will be a tad more helpful natalieand!

hayle I washed everything. Just because I could then see the little socks hanging up and drying and look at how cute they are and how good they smell grin

clapham I was able to sleep on the side of my WC vaccine the day after my injection, so hopefully you'll be ok by tonight.

Pseudo it's each to their own at the end of the day, and I think that by the end of the episode it is quite apparent that Lauren made absolutely the right choice for her and her baby. Someone viewing it all externally (i.e. the vbac midwife) who wasn't there for the traumatic birth of their first child would not have any understanding of what the couple went through.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 11:32:22

paeudo I agree. That midwife made me just as uncomfortable as the Russian couple. She runs that clinic which ostensibly supports women make their own decisions but in reality she's trying to get them all to have natural births. Sadly I bet hospital execs love it because there's a huge business case for convincing women not to choose c sections.

Iheartcrunchiebars Wed 04-Sep-13 11:42:11

Why isn't midwives on iplayer? It's so annoying!

Smitten1981 Wed 04-Sep-13 11:50:15

rox They're not really true at all for me, we're having a boy.

- Do you prefer savoury or sweet (sweet = girl, savoury = boy)? Sweet by far, I'm living off cake
- Have you lost your beauty (yes = girl, no = boy)? No
- Did you have morning sickness (yes = girl, no = boy)? No
- Is your babies heart rate mostly over 140bpm (yes = girl, no = boy)? yes, 150-something BPM last time
- Has your partner gained weight in the pregnancy (yes = girl, no = boy)? yes, but because the house is full of cake, which I wouldn't have touched before

I don't need to wee in the night at all, but I do have the bladder of an ox. I just keep waking up because I can't get comfortable.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 12:13:28

Out from consultant. No need for csection or 38 weeks induction but has asked for sweeps from 38 weeks as its baby no2 and induction no later than 41 weeks. Estimated weight as it stands at 34+2 is 5lb 10oz xx

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 12:16:04

crunchiebears I think I first found it by scrolling through all the factual titles, then today I found it by going through the TV guide, back to the date and time it originally aired. I'm not sure why it doesn't seem to come up in searches.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 12:19:19

Natalie how do you feel about that? Is it a relief?

Warlin Wed 04-Sep-13 12:24:23

Morning all

Good luck to all the back to school kids today. It's a gorgeous day here too clapham

bridget I'm just back from my dog walk. I'm finding it hard but a little easier than it was before baby was breech! I take my dog to the beach for an hour. We can walk down but it's quite hilly so I've been driving down and walking for an hour just along the beaches and coastal path. I tend to walk slowly but do lots of ball/ stick throwing and my dog spends most of it swimming anyway smile I then take her for another half hour trip to the park later with ds or just round the streets, depending on how the days go.

clapham glad the cake went well. I'd love to take up baking. We had a lovely long lunch yesterday, picked ds up from nursery and then he stayed over at my parents. He was a nightmare though, wouldn't settle, refused to go into his cot etc. so frustrating as he's normally good and I don't want him to start playing up for them. I think he's still teething pretty badly sad

I'm having a boy but had morning sickness, no real food cravings....exciting for those who don't know what they're having.

Good luck today nat and tarlia

mon was it yesterday you had your scan? How did it go?

Off to soft play this afternoon to let ds burn off some energy!

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 12:28:47

Rox I'm also in the gender surprise gang.

I'm craving both savoury and sweet on a daily basis.

Heart Rate always over 140bpm

No morning sickness just nausea

My bump is very high all out front (not sure what that means)

As for beauty I feel I look like a minger, however others tell me i'm blooming (Personally I think they need their eyes and heads testing)

So maybe i'm having a hermaphrodite as i'm displaying symptoms for both genders.

Hope all goes ok Nat.

My dog gets a daily walk around the park, it's only a small thing so we can skip a day if needs be. This small dog found it's way onto the kitchen table last night (whilst i was watching midwifes and dp was on his laptop in the lounge) We turned around to find her happily helping herself to the last enchilada (covered in jalpaenos) little madam! It must have been payback for me putting her in the baby bjorn carrier earlier on! She was drinking water all night afterwards haha!

No scans since my growth scan last week which showed a good healthy sized baby warlin. Back at hospital on Friday where I'll hopefully get my c-section date and find out once and for all what hospital I'll be delivering at but I've got a feeling they won't tell me either of those things until I've seen the fetal medicine team on the 12th.

legallyblond Wed 04-Sep-13 12:50:32

So sorry, this thread seems to have moved faster than most (will it make it until my c section.....???!) and I just can't keep up after a busy 48 hours or so. Welcome to newbies and lurkers!

DD started school today and DH has just gone to collect her after lunch. It's the first term of nursery (she's "rising 3" - 3 in Oct) but because its the nursery of her proper school (a prep /pre-prep) its very much like proper school. So she has a full school uniform complete with pinafore dress, school bag and black school shoes (surprisingly hard to find for a not yet 3 year old). She was sooooo excited and happy to go! She tried to say goodbye to us at the gates!! We said "err, actually, we'll just come to your classroom and drop you off with Mrs x"!

Anyway, sorry, just wanted to share!

V jealous of all of you with bilingual kids. I would say that 80% of my friends are bilingual as most are people I met through doing languages at a v international / euro money uni... My degree was French and Italian and have lived and worked in both countries. So through hard work alone, I speak both well but am not fluent... I don't believe I ever will be truly fluent despite obviously being able to live and socialise etc. Peopke tend to think I am fluent / native as my accents are v convincing (I am pitch perfect so I put it down to my musically trained ear!), but there's no way I'm as expressive as I am in English. DH is also English so we will try to live abroad for a year or so when all kids are at school do that they become at least relatively fluent in a second language. Tbh, I fo learn them easily so I'm hoping that is inherited!!! Still v jealous of you all though!!!

Re sleeping and those of you suffering now and then worried about bf.... I found I got more sleep bf!!! I was lucky though. DD did wake every 2 hours for months, but she was only ever awake for ten minutes or so and often I would snooze as I fed. Plus I swear that bf releases some kind of hormone that makes you less tired than you would otherwise be... I never felt totally rotten... And with your first, I wholeheartedly recommend allowing yourself to snooze any time in the day the baby sleeps. Won't have that luxury this time round..... Eek!

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 13:25:08

I'm home. +1 protein, bp 135/97, put my medication up from 3 to 4 tabs a day. Hopefully things won't progress as not seeing them again until Tuesday. CTG was good though apparently, noticed my BH contractions are def getting stronger on paper too, it's not my imagination.

JellyCurls Wed 04-Sep-13 13:37:19

Agree with legally that bf releases a hormone that means night wakes don't leave you exhausted and also gives you an ability to fall straight asleep again after finishing.

Confession time: I have lost the ability to pee in sample pots provided by midwife. I feel runbish today so called for advice and managed to get an appointment for this afternoon. She has asked me to bring a sample with me but that's twice now I have completely missed the pot. What's happening to me???

Smitten1981 Wed 04-Sep-13 13:55:57

Flyer How funny, I came home from work at lunch to find our pooch on the kitchen table too. She'd had a go at a sticky label, ripped it to bits, and that was stuck all over her in various places, but she'd left the bananas and apples!

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 13:58:53

Tarlia have you got your own dipping sticks?

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 13:58:55

Tarlia - hope the extra tablet does the trick. What is a CTG? Sorry if that's a silly question..

JellyCurls - your post made me chortle. Just back from a midwife's appointment where I handed over the tiniest drop of wee ever - I've totally lost the peeing in a pot skill too!

I even lied and told her I'd spilt most of my sample. Too embarrassed to confess that my poor old privates now seem to send wee out in any old random direction. I think I'm going to have to pee in a bowl and then pour into the pot from now on.

Midwife said baby is head down but she couldn't work out the rest of its position despite having a good old feel (no wonder I haven't a clue) She also freaked me out at one point by asking me if I was sure there was only one baby in there!

Lots of comments about baby being "a good size" - slightly anxious now as DD was 8lb 8oz and predicted to be small!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 14:01:12

Flyer hope your little dog's tummy is ok today - not sure my pooch could handle that sort of food without serious repercussions!

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 14:39:45

phew back from asda, I managed the walk there and back but am now very sweaty!! its a random very hot and sunny day here!! picked up the two sleeping bags I'd ordered online as they were the cheapest I could find, only to discover that the asda ones were rolled back to only £8. i would have swapped them but they only had one asda one in so I just bought it as well. my sis said its good to have a few so once baby has pooed all over one and vomitted all over the next you've not run out!!

claphammama Wed 04-Sep-13 15:13:16

haha - I'm another one who can no longer pee in a pot. Last time I gave them a drop - literally. I bet they are used to it. I can't see where I should hold the pot and seem to be peeing in strange directions.

warlin and roofio that's a lot of walking. Should keep you fit!

Somehow I doubt we will have a baby on this thread... but we will definitely have at least 3 babies next week! Two from legally and another one from the newbie who is getting induced next Tuesday. Sorry newbie, completely forgot your name... can you remind us please?

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 16:32:51

Back from my midwife appointment. Bump is measuring fine now (although I got the impression that she kept running her hand down the measuring tape until she got the measurement she wanted).

With regards to my bad back, she said that if it's bad then source private help (i.e. a chiropractor or osteo) because by the time they could get me an appointment with an NHS Physio I would probably have a 1 month old baby and my problems would be gone. Although it is upper back, she said it would be because my pelvis is changing shape to accomodate baby, and that will affect my whole torso.

Baby's head is one fifth engaged smile ... I am pretty sure that he/she can still become un-engaged again, but it is still nice to hear.

I decided to ask her about strep b, and she said that the reason why the NHS don't test for it is because about 1/3rd of expectant Mum's would come up positive, and so would be given antibiotics at the birth, and for the vast majority of those women it would be a case of giving them drugs that they do not need as the baby is highly unlikely to react to the strep b anyway.
She also said that I may screen as negative this week, yet be positive for it next week.
Basically she tried to put me off taking the test privately, but I am still thinking I might (but will now leave it until 38 weeks or so to do).

legallyblond Wed 04-Sep-13 16:36:08

I agree Clapham... Don't think it'll be this thread! DD has been exhausted all afternoon since school this morning! No nap though, do early night... Yay!

legallyblond Wed 04-Sep-13 16:36:44

* so early night....

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 16:38:32

Sorry for that last me post.

JellyCurls I am slowly losing the ability, it's so easy for men who don't have to look to see where the trickle is coming from! I managed to fill a pot earlier, but if I struggled I would probably cut a small corner off of a sandwich bag, and put that corner in the pot, then wee into the bag (I read your post whilst in the waiting room and had lots of thinking time!) ... Also my midwife gave me what was pretty much a disposable shewee that clipped onto the sample pot at one of my very early appointments to use (which I then disposed of, not considering I might need it in the future). I wonder if they could supply you with one so you can fill a pot?

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 16:39:22

I'm not the only one getting bugger all sleep lately then. I got about two hours last night then had my first antenatal class first thing. The midwife there ended up taking my bp because I mentioned the fainting (I did say I was going to the drs) and its a bit low. She then sorted me a bloods form because she thinks I'm anaemic sad lovely! The antenatal class itself was a bit useless to be honest, nothing I didn't already know. Anyone else had their classes yet?

Clapham - round here they give you a little cardboard jug to go in. I'm very grateful for these jugs because I can't aim either!!

Had some pretty shocking news today, my dh lost his job. I think it's the worst timing possible really sad they knew he was about to have a baby too sad at least we have already bought everything for the baby. Any money saving tips for the future would be much appreciated?

Hope you are all having a better day than me.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 16:45:21

Oh no Heffalump, sorry to hear that sad Do you meal plan and shop online already? If so then my tip is useless.....

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 16:48:06

Oh dead heffa does he have a notice period to work? Or any holiday pay he will be owed? And isit the kind of profession/job that's relatively easy to take a position up else where? Xx

I hope your increased dosage of medication manages to tide u over for the next 2.5 weeks tarlia

As for the wee pot, I've never been able to pee in one I've had a designated cup to wee in and then pour it into the pot lol

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 16:49:55

Thanks pseudo. I don't shop online, but I write exact lists before we go so I have the right ingredients for decent meals. Then I make more than we need so we never use ready meals. Is that what you mean by meal planning?

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 16:52:38

Natalie he's being paid for the next week, but they aren't making him work it. He's getting a bit of a payoff, but it will only last us about 3 months sad Unfortunately he's a specific type of engineer and there is only one place round here that he could work at sad he's going to have to take any old job until the company starts hiring again sad

roofio87 Wed 04-Sep-13 16:54:29

heffa im very sorry about your dh's job. I hope you're not worrying too much.
I'm not doing any antenatal classes, apart from a breast feeding workshop. to be honest I just can't be bothered! ! haha

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 16:56:52

Sorry to hear that heffa, such terribly bad timing. I am afraid that I am not that great with money saving other than meal planning like pseudo suggested and buying stuff second hand/on eBay rather than new.

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 16:57:57

roofio I would have loved to do a bfing workshop! There isn't one round by me. That's really the only reason I'm going to the classes, to get bfing info.

Just popping out to see my nan, check back later.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 17:01:09

That's it basically Heffalump, and the rationale behind doing it online is to avoid impulse buys. I hate online grocery shopping tbh but I will be doing it for a bit once baby arrives.

SeriousStuff Wed 04-Sep-13 17:15:55

Jelly I had the exact same peeing experience and got wee everywhere because I couldn't see the stream past my huge belly!

Shirehobbit Wed 04-Sep-13 17:16:43

Sorry to hear your news, Heffalump sad
We've been through the mill in the last five years with DH's work, multiple redundancies in a three year period, which is why we waited so long before ttc.
It would be very tough for that to happen again, now. Our back up plan, if it were to happen, is that he'd become a stay at home Dad and I'd go back to work full time before SMP ran out.

doobeedee Wed 04-Sep-13 17:19:55

Awww. A lovely member of my first ever Year 7 form came to see me today at school and gave me a teddy for baby. She's 21 now and in her 3rd year of uni. I felt old!

Oh heffa sorry to hear that I shop around for food a lot sometimes things that would cost you 2 pound for it is £1 somewhere else invest in a big freezer if you don't already have it. Do not be afraid of basics some are hit and miss but some are fab its a bit trial and error.

Saying that i would fit into jamie oliver stereotype tonight blush sold a bike that was lying around so we are having an indian take away but its a treat we won't afford in future as DH is not working anymore he went back to uni at the start of the week and is on his 2nd year. I don't work atm so we are on half money this year we don't claim benefits other than child tax credit and child benefit so it will be tough but worth it in the long run we hope! His degree is in web development we are hoping for a well paid it job at the end maybe that is wishful thinking but its our only hope out of NMW positions hmm

Tarlia Wed 04-Sep-13 17:22:04

heffa I'm so sorry, that's really awful timing sad

badger yes I do. How's yours today?

Thanks, Nat, fingers crossed at least another week anyway.

bridget I'm not sure what they call it in the UK, it's the thing where they strap monitors on your tummy to graph baby HB and contractions, you also have a button to mark movements.

clap I think you are right - it was skull being induced Tuesday. Not Polish? Amazing you have do many languages - though you revert back to Italian with family language as English with the baby or does DP have another MT?

peeing ladies :P Buy yourselves a stack of disposable plastic drinking cups. That's what we use here as they don't give out pots to do at home.

SeriousStuff Wed 04-Sep-13 17:25:47

Heffa I'm so sorry about your DH's job. I was made redundant a few years ago when the recession really hit and it's an awful experience. I'm sure he'll find something in the meantime.

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 17:30:52

Heffa that's awful news. I guess the up side is that he'll be around to help with the newborn. Good luck with the cutting back. I guess we could all do with some of that this next year.

doobeedee Wed 04-Sep-13 17:31:01

Apologies for not name checking but... re: missing the wee pot. I do this too. It's even worse due to the fact I have to recycle the pot every time and it's got a label on the outside so I have to wrap a bit of toilet roll around it to avoid a soggy label!

Re: bump measuring. I'm measuring small although I'm sure that if the midwife didn't know how many weeks I was before she measured, she'd come up with any old number!

Can't remember the other thing I was going to comment on. Oh yeah. Anti natal classes. NHS ones weren't great. Did some private ones which were better but I didn't really learn anything I hadn't already googled/read on here. Was useful for husband though.

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 17:37:00

I'm in a hrrumph. Just back from WC jab- ouch! Now I understand why our 3yo's cry when they're given it!

I had to have a repeat wee test done and I got ++ on sugars, raised Ketones and +protein (but blood sugar fine) so I've got to report to mw tomorrow. I don't want another GTT sad I hope it was something I did/didn't eat- I always forget to be on bestest eating duty when I have a pee test.

Oh and on wee tests- in Oz I was given a red drinks-cup style sample container to use. DH almost drank it thinking it was orange squash shock Was def easier to use than our silly containers.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 17:37:13

Heffa that is absolutely awful. sad I hope your DH finds something again soon. I guess the best thing I know is to write down all your expenses and go one by one, making sure you're on the cheapest rates for utilities, deciding what are luxuries and what are necessities, seeing where you could cut back (like using the car less or trying to live with one car if you usually use two). You'll get lots of tips on how to save 50p on household items (which are useful) but in my experience it's big things like bills and car expenses that make the biggest difference.

Ok so I've properly started packing a hospital bag and instead of putting this in the comments of GT baby's list on fb maybe the thread can answer my questions:

1. Are cotton pads for anything other than wiping bums (ie same uses as wipes?)
2. Do hospitals not provide compression stockings if needed and also towels?
3. I assume t shirts, yoga pants, nighties and pj bottoms are for when you're not actually labouring, like around the ward and going home?
4. Is the bikini top for water birth?
5. What do you do with witch hazel and tea tree oil?

Sorry I'm thick.

Sparkeleigh Wed 04-Sep-13 17:52:49

Heffa that's awful news sad I can recommend the Money Saving Expert site and email's if you don't already use it. If you do up a budget/list of expenditures there're some helpful people on the forums there who'll have a look though it and give you a money makeover. For utilities and insurance etc there was some people with big savings.

I don't know if I'm having a boy or girl but I get 5/5 for a boy for those questions! I'd better start thinking about boys names just in case! I'm convinced it's a girl for some reason until next time I change my mind

I had my midwife appt today and according to the bump size chart the baby is about 5lbs which I was surprised by, it seems big for 33-34wks. She had a bit of trouble finding the baby's head at first and said I had very strong stomach muscles. I wish I'd got her to put it in writing, it's probably the only time in my life someone will tell me that grin

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 17:58:48

Oh Heffa that is truly and utterly pants! I hope a new job becomes available very soon.

I have been lucky enough to find my antenatal classes useful both times (probably more so first pregnancy) There probably wasn't any information I couldn't have found in a book, but I'm not sure I'd have found the time to do all that research independently. Also made some lovely friends last time, but the refresher course hasn't been so conducive to making friendships.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow Pink

Doobee - what a lovely gesture from your former pupil. You obviously made a lasting impression on her and should feel very proud flowers

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 18:01:26

ana my only contribution is that cotton pads/balls you can use for wiping baby's eyes/face with cold water. If they get an eye infection (surely not that early) you're s'posed to use boiled water.

I don't remember the hospital giving me anything.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 18:05:36

ana...this is as much as I know...

1. I've only used cotton pads for bum wiping and eye/face wiping (basically anything I'd use cotton wool for)

2. Don't know about stockings. Used my own towels last time (don't know if hospitals would provide them if someone didn't have one)

3. I think you're right

4. That's why I'm packing one - prob won't bother to put it on though!

5. I'd love more detail on this too - are they just added to bath water?

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 18:14:07

My hospital do supply towels and stockings x

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 18:14:50

Pink I'll be at the Whitt tomorrow from about 2.30, when is your appointment? Sorry about your wee sad

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 18:16:07

Yep Pink is right - my DD got a bit of a gunky eye a couple of days after we got home and we were advised to wipe it with cotton wool dipped in cooled, boiled water.

We were told it is quite common as babies can pick up some germs as they travel through the birth canal.

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 18:17:50

ana as far as I am aware the reason for the cotton wool rather than wipes is because they often recommend just cotton wool and water for the first 2 weeks as baby can have very sentisive skin. I believe the nightie is to give birth in, the Pj Bottoms for when you're walking around and want to cover up a bit. The tea tree oil etc is for use on your lady parts if you tear I think (meant to really help).

I have managed to fit everything for me and baby in one relatively small bag.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 18:19:30

Tarlia my bottom number is low 80s so I'll see what they say tomorrow. I'm going to get them to give me some dipping things too.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 18:21:39

falcon it sounds like you'll have a lovely meal tonight and that's part of what life's about. It's really admirable what your DP is doing and I hope it works out for you.

pinkforboys have you had these results and a GTT before? Best of luck. I hope you're ok.

At my Sheffield GP they have you really narrow, tall specimen pots that were impossible to wee in. In Manchester they've given me wider ones that work much better. Now that I've changed GP again I'm wondering what will happen. I enjoyed getting a pot at reception instead of having to bring it from home in my handbag so I hope the new GP continues in that tradition.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 18:21:46

Very minor issue but it's driving me mad that I can't find my towels from last time. I bought some very expensive bath sheets in a dark purple especially for the job (oh the days when I was earning!) and I'm positive they weren't binned, but they have disappeared off the face of the earth.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 18:29:02

Bridget have you moved since your last birth, or put a bunch of boxes in an attic? Sometimes random stuff gets mixed together in boxes. That's all I can think of.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 18:39:20

Yes, we've moved - think they're a lost cause tbh as I've looked everywhere I can think of. Never mind....sigh.... <wistfully remembers how gorgeous they were>

Sephy Wed 04-Sep-13 18:40:27

Has anyone heard about using lavender instead of tea tree oil after birth? A friend told me that works (you put some milk in the bath as well to help it mix, not just float on top apparently) but I've not seen it as a tip anywhere else! Wondering if it's true, because I already have the lavender but would need to buy tea tree!

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 18:44:09

pseudo I haven't got an appt- I've got to call and hope they'll deal with me on the phone I don't want to cancel my haircut!. What are you in for?

Bridget blame the pesky house-elves. They've hidden my old M&P nappy stacker too!

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 18:46:55

Consultant appointment. Have you got to call MDU?

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 18:51:19

Thank you so much for your lovely messages. We'll be ok, we've been through worse! Thanks for the tips on money saving, I'll be checking out that website too.

Good to see I'm not the only one who hasn't quite got the hospital bag packed! And roxvox thanks it's very helpful to know about the 2 week rule for cotton wool and water, I wasnt sure how long you were supposed to wait before using wipes.

Sorry about your towels bridget sad

sephy I've heard that lavender is good too as it has antibacterial properties. This is my first baby though so no actual experience.

Can I ask, do you need to take some sort of bowl for water for cleaning baby's bum? I'm having a c section so won't be able to run to and from a sink.

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 18:51:46

pseudo She just said to call the team and see what they say. It doesn't help that my notes seem to hold so little info- my GTT results aren't in there, but I know the consultant said they were fine.

I haven't got any record of baby's hr- have you?

Pinkforboys Wed 04-Sep-13 18:53:39

My memory of cleaning baby's bum in hospital was just doing it on the bed. The first poo is the merconium- be warned, it's like tar! I was told (afterwards) to wipe vaseline on baby's bum before first poop so it was easier to get off. I hope I remember this time!

GTbaby Wed 04-Sep-13 18:55:10

Cotton pads for bum just like wipes. If I'm honest I used wipes last time. And prob will again. I did however use pads to clean DS skin with. There was no where to give him a bath. So i used cotton pads and a cup of water.

Stockings I have from last time, mw told me to keep them as they are expensive n they throw them away. So thought I'd save the nhs a few ££ by reusing! Lol
Towel I took last time. As I'm a bit fussy. But I don't remember being offered any last time. And I think it's on list mw gave of things to bring. So maybe some hospitals don't provide them.

Bikini top is incase I want to go in water.

Witch hazel £1.19. From home bargain. wink With this stuff (I've heard ppl keep it in fridge but I didn't) u pour a cap full and put it on your maternity pad. It has a nice cooling effect (even tho not kept in fridge)
Tea tree oil is for bath. Few drops. Heard putting it in milk then putting in bath is good as it breaks up the molecules or something.

Tshirts n yoga pants are for after birth.
I think that is everything.

a lil tip for washing mittens and socks. Get a laundry bag. I use one which is for putting bras in the wash.
Mittens and socks get stuck in machine/other clothes and you loose them so quickly.

I also have never been able to pee in the pot. So have a stack of disposable plastic cups and then pour into sample pot.

Oh and heff that sucks! First bills to sort out are council tax (pay less if only one person works). Gas n elec suppliers. Stop using car as much as poss, dh can walk to get shopping.
Check insurance is on lowest rates.
And when I really wanted cut down I wrote down every penny I spent. Including .50p on a packet of crisp. Makes u more aware of your spending.
Babies do not need alot, shop around to mk sure you get cheapest.

GTbaby Wed 04-Sep-13 19:00:37

Cross posted there Sephy. Yes I've also heard to use lavender. But kinda like u I have tea tree so not going to buy more oil.
Glad u mentioned putting it in with milk. As when I wrote it I thought "did I make that up" lol. Think I remember that the fat breaks it up.

HotSoupDumpling Wed 04-Sep-13 19:03:34

Clapham - was 3 nights before I could comfortably sleep on my left side again after the WC vaccine - so you're not unusual, don't worry.

Heffa - sorry to hear about DH's job. Fingers crossed he'll find another one soon. In the meantime, I would definitely (if you don't already): try not to have any brand loyalty, buy what's cheapest; double check your house/car insurance and electricity/water and switch to the cheapest tariff every year (like ana, this saved us the most money); Money Saving Expert website is amazing.

Apparently we need to bring cotton wool balls and the little bowls to the hospital (they don't put it on the list given to us in our hospital antenatal class, but if you don't bring them they get a bit grouch and have to scrounge random bowls for you). Also, we have to bring towels. Hence why my bag is rather huge.

I really enjoyed our NHS antenatal classes - as you all say, most of it was nothing I hadn't read, but it sticks in the mind better when it's presented in a fun way. Also, DP definitely learnt a lot!

Iheartcrunchiebars Wed 04-Sep-13 19:03:40

Thanks ananikifo I will give that a go!

Hope you are ok heffa.

That's a great tip about Vaseline I hope I remember it!!

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 19:03:40

Thank you GT and everyone. I've been wondering about witch hazel for a while. Having worked in hospitals but not being a nurse I was surprised but unsure by the pressure stocking thing. All our non-maternity surgical patients seem to have the hospital issue ones. And all the mums at my work seem to have used wipes from the beginning with their second babies. I was wondering if you needed cotton for some thing else.

HotSoupDumpling Wed 04-Sep-13 19:04:40

Cross-posted with everyone giving exactly the same advice! (so it must be good advice!)

GT - I also found out (the hard way) that little mittens and socks should be put into a laundry bag!

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 19:07:33

And I would think those cardboard sick bowls would be ideal for washing bums. I have so much to learn...

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 19:08:18

Heffalump crappy news about your dh hmm I hope he gets something soon. Talk about timing hey!

My dog keeps running off with babies socks and scratch mittens....I seem to have odd amounts and missing socks...naughty pooch! She is off her food today (after the enchilada incident) I've just got back from work and dp has fed her mackerel as he was worried she wasn't eating, she wolfed it down, she's such a manipulator and we are too soft with her.

Falcon dp owns a recruitment firm and his main client is a big pensions company. He has just been hiring for a few web developers, a good career to get into with technology, Internet expanding so quickly. So it's a career that can take him many places I guess.

Still haven't packed my bag, planning on starting it in a few weeks shock lets hope I don't spontaneously go into labour or else I'm screwed.

Clapham, A foreign language isn't in the curriculum until KS2 (year 3) though some schools might start earlier. It doesn't have to be French but often is.

Natalie, good news on no c section or early induction. Did the baby just have a growth spurt last time that has slowed down a bit?

Jelly, me too on missing the wee pot or not being able to see where I am weeing. doobeedoo we have to reuse the same pot every time too so I put loo paper round it so I don't smudge the label with wee. Nice.

Legally, glad to hear you were less tired breastfeeding than when pregnant. You have given me hope!

Heffalump, so sorry to hear DH lost job. Are they allowed to give him such short notice? Has he checked his contract? Is this something citizens advice bureau could advise on? They might also tell you if it makes you entitled to any benefits.

Pinkforboys, I was told to do a first morning midstream wee for my repeat sample after having sugar in my post-lunch one.

Sparkeleigh not convinced they can accurately tell baby's weight from your bump size?! They aren't even that accurate when doing a scan.

Hayle agree on using a laundry bag or putting little socks etc in a pillowcase so they don't get lost and clog up the washing machine. We had a couple of break downs due to that when I was a child.

People tell me my bump is neat and all at the front which is a boy bump, but I am more sweet than savoury, have developed a fat spotty face, and have been drinking lots of orange juice and eating satsumas which are boy things so could be either. HR is always just under 150, some people say 150+ is girl, some 140+.

I am knackered after long day at work. Sitting on hard chairs for hours gave me a sore coccyx again and was very hot and sweaty. The other teacher who I thought was pregnant confirmed she is 4 months today. There will be lots of us all over a two year period, I think we could almost mill the whole children's centre nursery which has 9 baby places. Or maybe I should quit and be a childminder just for staff children!

I meant sugar/face and oranges are meant to be girl things.

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 19:28:57

Orange I hear there is a baby boom for 2013/2014

I keep getting a really uncomfy out of breath feeling and lots of pressure at the top of my bump, I presume my baby is still breech.

Nat pleased to hear your positive news on c section and induction front.

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 19:56:42

Hotsoup I have had sock and scratchmit issues too! I havent got any laundry bags!

flyer that really made me smile about your dog grin

orange checked his contract and they have done it all by the book sad hopefully because he is classed as being made redundant we should be able to sort benefits. Off to the cab tomorrow. Great tip about using a pillowcase as a laundry bag! Using that one.

Thanks again for the support re dh's job everyone.

Thanks for the advice about taking a bowl for water to clean baby's bum. I haven't seen it on any of the lists, but I was wondering what we would use.

Oh and I'm having a girl and I got 3/5 girl ones by the way.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 20:09:25

Pink no actual heart rate, just FHHR (fetal heart rate heard and regular). But I do have 2 lots of ctg trace in my notes too!
I'm going to get them to write my GTT and other bloods in my book tomorrow.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 20:27:19

tarlia I thought u might like to no that dh has had his one day off a week today and been moaning on and off all day about his back and each time I've just said 'oh right' although in fairness to him - he hasn't made me do any thing physically challenging to a pregnant women ie. lifting dd and carrying the shopping lol

doobeedee Wed 04-Sep-13 20:27:25

Orange at my school there are 4 of us due within 2 months!

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 20:33:45

Well I went to Boots today and spent £60 blush on hospital bag stuff. Oops.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 20:35:05

Hospital bags don't come cheap pseudo lol no wonder the hospital don't supply to it all.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 20:40:27

It was all the expensive stuff like Lanisoh, nappies, peppermint oil capsules (post cs wind!) etc etc

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:02:15

£60 pseudo! That surprised me, but in actual fact if I hadn't bought all of my stuff staggered then I probably would have had a similar bill. I always seem to spend too much in boots, which surprises me as someone who isn't in to beauty products etc.

I've posted a bare bump picture on Facebook. After my job of being 1/5th engaged earlier I am sure that baby has moved already as my stomach is going in to all kinds of weird shapes right now!

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 21:05:53

Yes rox I literally bought it all in one go. I just need snacks now another £60 should do it grin

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 21:10:48

Hehe pseudo £60 in snacks sounds ideal. I got breast pads maternity pads deodorant toothbrush toothpaste wetwipes and Capri suns towards my hospital bag stash today. Might have a little sort out when dd is at play school tommorow and see what else I need. I no for sure I need snacks. But shopping budget just didn't allow for it.

Anyone else got dry nipples? They aren't sore or cracked just quite flaky. Will normal moisturiser fix it do u think? As I don't plan to breast feed so don't want to pay out on an expensive nipple cream x

Also does anyone else have an appt with the health visitor? I got a letter the other day for an appt with the health visitor for tommorow to give me babies red book and have a chat... I remember having the same with dd briefly but just wondered if all areas do the same or something simular? X

i hope you all have advantage cards And boots parenting club. it is all expensive isn'it.

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 21:12:00

We did the same in boots a few days ago. Luckily I already had some of the bits but still managed to spend £30. I was very impressed with their 3 for 2 offers though, we saved £17 in total.

I just need to pack the actual bag now.

How many packs of nappies have you guys bought in advance? I didnt want to buy too many because I've heard that babies grow out of the first size pretty quickly. What brands have you gone for?

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:13:09

pseudo DH looked in my hospital bag the other day and exclaimed (jokingly) "Look at all of these snacks and sweets you're hiding from me, these are my favourite too!" ... He went quite sheepish when I pointed out that they were for him (and me) for the hospital smile

I enjoy knowing that it's all just sitting there ready and waiting to go. I've also added in some random bits like a full over the head hairband (not something I normally wear, but the girls on OBEM always seem to be brushing the hair out of their eyes), plus a nail file because I will be cursing not having one if I have a nail snag and keep catching it on things!

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:16:05

heffa I am probably the least clued up to help, but I bought one pack of the size 1 Pampers (I think there are 24 or so in a pack) and then 2 packs of size 2. I figure that, if baby does fit better in the size 1 nappies, then I can send DH to get some more.

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 21:16:18

natalie - mine are a bit dry right in the middle. I am hoping to bf so have just used my nipple balm. I would have thought a bit of Vaseline or lip balm would be better than just moisturiser. I only say that because my nipple balm says it can be used on lips so I assume they need similar sort of moisturising if that makes sense.
No appointment with a health visitor yet.

orange is the advantage card and parenting club worth it? I never usually go to boots and actually only popped in there because I was looking for lanolin free nipple cream. What sort of benefits is there to having one?

Sparkeleigh Wed 04-Sep-13 21:18:51

orange - I doubt it's accurate, but I was a bit shock when I calculated the weight from kg into lbs and ozs! I was 6lb and my bro was 7lb so I'm hoping this baby is around that size!

I'd completly forgotten about scratch mits, thanks to whoever mentioned those!

Haylebop12 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:22:01

I seem to have the opposite with my nipples. Very soft hmm

chellyyx Wed 04-Sep-13 21:22:02

Helloo how do I join the list??? Pg with number 2 a little girl due 19th October smile. I'm in the middle of getting a date for second induction 2 wk early so around the start of October.. She's measuring big just like DS! Had growth scan on Monday she's est at 5lb 13oz upto now smile. DS was induced 2 wk early and he was 10lb1/4oz.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 21:24:00

natalie I've had dry or flaky and sore nipples too. I'm convinced it's not crusty milk. If you're not planning to bf you could use a cheaper nipple cream or a moisturiser that's gentle. I would just worry that nipples are so sensitive so I wouldn't use anything that could cause irritation.

A colleague thinks I'm poor (and I found out later she's told others that's why she's giving me stuff confused) and she has given me half a tube of Lansinoh. I took it like I accept everything but I can't decide how I feel about it. One one hand it seems a very personal item but on the other hand the stuff is expensive and she only used half a tube in total. Honestly ladies is that gross? Should I stop being so cheap? (She also gave me a bunch of other baby things. It's not like she just handed me an old tube of Lansinoh.)

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 21:25:38

Heffa - I definitely think the advantage card and parenting club is worthwhile. Doesn't cost anything to join and the points really do add up. I spent approx £25 in Boots today and paid for it entirely with points.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 21:27:41

Lol ana why do they think u are poor? :-/ orquad. Personally I would use a half used tube but then I can be a bit of a snob with second hand stuff, ill always use second hand stuff if a family member of v good friend had given me if but if someone not so close gave me it I wouldn't use if and I wouldn't use second hand clothes off ppl I don't no too well either x

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 21:31:22

Hmmm, not sure how I'd feel about being given half a tube of nipple cream - I know it's expensive stuff but I don't think I'd ever dream of giving that to someone (maybe family at a push)

How long has it been open? I'm a bit germ phobic so probably wouldn't touch it.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 04-Sep-13 21:35:38

Oh forgot to say hello to chelly - welcome aboard this busy bus!

chellyyx Wed 04-Sep-13 21:38:40

Thanks BridgetandtheHairyBrigands! smile

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:39:32

Hi chelly! I will add you to the spread sheet tomorrow if someone else doesn't beat me to it.

Seems odd ana. Glad she gave it to you in amongst other stuff and not just on it's own! I'd probably keep it as back up (or as a spare in my changing bag or something). Not sure it would hugely bother me to use it, but I do like to have stuff new really.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 21:41:54

Sorry I just realised I wrote I would use it but I had meant to write I wouldnt use it. Xx

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:42:42

Baby is so active this evening... Stretching, wiggling around and now he/she appears to be panting and is also suffering from the longest bout of hiccups that I've experienced. Poor little mite, wish I could give him or her a little cuddle!

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 21:44:15

Me again... chelly - a 10lb baby at 38 weeks! Wow smile

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 21:44:33

Ana - I'm a bit of a germophobe too so I don't think I'd be able to use it.

Natalie - i'm the same, friends or family fine, anyone else not so much. I have seen some lovely baby bits at boot sales and been really cross with myself because I just couldn't get over that enough to buy them.

Bridget - if I go back there I shall sign up for one then. Thanks!

shelly - hello!! I only joined this yesterday, this is a lovely friendly bunch. I'm having a girl too smile

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 21:48:05

roxvox aww thats cute. I get the urge to cuddle my baby when she gets startled by a loud noise, its adorable! She has finally settled down after being bananas all day. I was sat in the antenatal class with my belly jumping about. It's nice actually as she has mainly been active at night lately.

chellyyx Wed 04-Sep-13 21:48:41

Roxvox looks like this baby's going the same way lol 33+4 and my bump measures 39cm! So really extra feeling it now lol.

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 21:50:17

Also orange I just realised I never answered u from earlier, as they found nothing wrong the the baby it would seem his head had just had a growth spurt last time, his tummy has now caught up and his legs r a little on the short side but still within normal ranges but I'm only 5ft 2 so most likely just genetics anyway. Plus he weighs 5lb 10oz now at 34+2 so definately not small xx

chellyyx Wed 04-Sep-13 21:51:29

Heffalump I've been lurking a while on and off here but thought why the hell not join in wink

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:52:19

Welcome chelly, blimin heck a 10lber!

It is a bit of a bizarre thing to give you ana, I'd probably use it, but I don't really mind second hand stuff (clearly I'm a scab) I've bought quite a few second hand bits, it's my way of economising and doing my bit for the environment in a round about way....

Although I think I have the worst carbon foot print on the job/commuting front so my recycling doesn't really count for much!

Natalieand Wed 04-Sep-13 21:55:04

heffa that's exactly the same as me. I keep seeing lovely stuff on Local selling sites but I just can't bring myself to buy them lol. Its rediculous really cos sometimes I make myself miss out on some lovely things.
I'm still debating whether to buy a crib or not? I already have a Moses basket the thing is my nonsuprise baby shower is this Saturday (if that's the date they definately chose)i can't be sure as after seeing dh's original texts to my mum about it I've tried to steer clear of anything that could give me any more info and ruin it even more lol and I'm trying so hard not to buy anything else I may need until after the baby shower so I don't end up doubling up on stuff and my sister said she would buy me a crib when I first got my bfp and hasn't mentioned it since so she may have got one for the baby shower?

Ok now I'm waffling and over thinking things

What does everyone else have for the early days? Crib or Moses basket?

chellyyx Wed 04-Sep-13 21:56:12

Yep Flyer smile was told he would've been about 12lb if they me go full term! He's 2yrs 10mnth and still a stocky little man lol

sisteroutlaw Wed 04-Sep-13 22:03:53

Evening everyone! Welcome chelly!


I'm having a beer to relax me... I snapped and shouted so loudly at DS earlier to get up the stairs as it was bedtime that my throat hurts - he was refusing, limp, wailing. But now the anger has gone I just feel bereft. This was after doing all the softly understanding "I know you're upset because you want to continue watching programmes but it's bedtime now" bollocks. Yeah, like he cares that I acknowledge his feelings. Sigh.

Probably need a good cry.

And some [hugs]

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 22:08:09

I said above that I like to have stuff new really - that's a complete fabrication. Every piece of nursery furniture I have bought has been purchased on eBay! But when it comes to products and stuff I just like buying new for the sake of having all new stuff lined up and ready to use (I.e. a money waster).

natalieand I have hired the NCT bednest for the first 6 months. However I would have otherwise opted for a crib over a Moses basket because a) they supposedly last longer (can accommodate a bigger baby) and b) you'll be able to see the baby through the railings from your bed without getting up, rather than have the solid sides of a Moses basket.

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 22:09:04

Big hugs sisteroutlaw! I hate the aftermath of tension.

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 22:15:45

Oh dear sister we all have times we lose our rag, hugs, I'm sure he won't hold it against you. Enjoy your beer.

Natalie I have a Moses basket donated by my best friend and a crib purchased second hand grin it's a John Lewis one in white wood and is almost brand new (so she said) I bought a new mattress for it though. I prefer the crib idea but what do I know (1st timer) so not the best person to offer advice.

HeffalumpTheFlump Wed 04-Sep-13 22:17:49

natalie I've gone for a Moses basket then will move baby into a cot. I would have gone for the bed nest actually but I didn't find out they existed until after I had bought my Moses basket! Never mind, i think this baby is going to be really long so I don't think she will be in the basket for long anyway.

Sorry you are having a tough night sister, all of you mums who already have kids have my utmost admiration. I've felt so crap through this pregnancy I just don't know how you manage it.

I'm off to bed to not sleep as usual. Night smile

GTbaby Wed 04-Sep-13 22:19:22

Rox I am also taking a nail file! Lol and wrap around head band even tho I never wear one.

Nappy wise. I have 2size 2packets and 1size 3pack. Pampers size two are from 6lbs-13lbs i think. Lo was almost 8lbs so think bump will be similar.
If you buy to many in a bigger size at least they will get used. And in an emergency they will do the job on a smaller baby. Small nappies will end up unused.

Right off to bed
Night night

Smitten1981 Wed 04-Sep-13 22:22:46

Natalie, we deliberated for months and then got a crib. It's bigger, won't creak when they move and it will last longer if we want to use it again. And it was actually cheaper than getting a moses and a stand.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 22:24:16

Glad to see the new thread members are bumping up the girl numbers!

sisteroutlaw Wed 04-Sep-13 22:30:26

Night everybody and sweet dreams (and thanks for the hugs heffa flyer and rox). Am just a bit tense and volatile at the moment! Poor DS.

Nappies wise, I'm going to get size 2 - I did first time round and they fitted fine on a 7lb8oz baby (3.1kg) and they say this one is BIG. Gulp.

Seen any offers anywhere? x

Haylebop12 Wed 04-Sep-13 22:34:22

nat I have a Moses basket but only really because it as dd's. if I didn't have it I would have gone for a crib since dd was long and grew out of the basket at 8 weeks.

sister I totally sympathize with you. Dd starts school Monday, she's 4.7, so we have been trying to get back into some sort of decent bedtime. Things have been let slip a lot during the six weeks. She's generally very compliant but the last two nights I've been ready to put her on eBay. Pissin about all the time!

I would never have considered second hand stuff until I started selling stuff myself. The decent stuff ie, well looked after or next etc I use eBay or fb selling sites. The rest goes to car boot. It's my way of recuperating money spent on clothes in order to fund the next lot. Anyway, I realised the stuff I was selling I would be happy to receive so I do buy a few bits now and again. Had some not so good ones tbh but also had some lovely bits and pieces that haven't cost the earth. (Also 80% of my maternity stuff was purchased on eBay :-))

textbook Wed 04-Sep-13 22:36:27

This thread is ridiculously fast-moving at the moment! Welcome to newbies smile

Pseudo I've bought peppermint tablet things too (and deffo spent at least £60 on hospital bag stuff) - do you know if they really work, as I can remember from section with dd that the trapped wind was awful afterwards? I also got arnica tablets but fear they are a bit woo and won't work!

Haylebop12 Wed 04-Sep-13 22:36:59

I've got one small pack if size ones, some in hosp bag, then a 2 packets and a box of size twos.

ananikifo Wed 04-Sep-13 22:40:32

natalie this colleague spends all day talking about stuff, as in things. We had a day where we both had admin to do in the office and were alone together for the whole day, and I heard about cheeky wipes, Lansinoh, whatever pram she bought (wasn't paying attention), pampers nappies, tommy tippee bottles (isn't just the normal ones to get?), christening suits, and gifts and cakes. I also just bought a house so I heard about her new oak furniture and the curtains that cost £1000 just for the fabric. I'm not too proud to admit to people that we are furnishing the new house with furniture from DH's parents, and that we didn't do NCT because of the cost, and a lot of our baby stuff is either used or bought on sale or we're waiting to see if we need it. Anyway by the end of the day she offered to bring me a bunch of stuff and again I'm not too proud to say yes, so she appeared with an unused car seat which would have been spare, some car window shades, and the Lansinoh. She told one of my friends in the office that she was giving it to me because she knew money was tight for me.

I was in the baby's room sorting out clothes and drawers for the last hour and I realised that I haven't touched her pile of stuff because the nipple cream weirds me out so I think I'll just bite the bullet and get my own tube, lol.

char1eston Wed 04-Sep-13 22:45:51

I would definitely use the nipple cream. In fact, I take everything I'm given. I had about 4 tubes of lansinoh on the go at once last time round - they were all in different places around the house or in the change bag. It would only be the end that would have been touched by someone so you could squeeze out the first bit and disinfect?
Although I've bought a couple of new baby grows, pretty much everything we have is 2nd hand this time around. I just don't see the point in spending loads of money on new stuff. We were extremely fortunate to have been given a bugaboo with dd! By someone we didn't even know.
It's entirely individual choice though and I can understand why people want to buy everything new.

char1eston Wed 04-Sep-13 22:47:22

We don't have a crib but we do have a hammock as well as a Moses basket. It was amazing for getting dd to nap during the day without me carrying her round the cemetery in a sling!

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 22:59:05

ana I agree with char1eston ... Squeeze the end out of it and wipe it over with an antibacterial wipe, then I'd put it in my change bag as a back up. The thing that would annoy me is that fact that this woman felt the need to express to someone else that you're strapped for cash. DH and I saved up quite a lot before we started TTC and we haven't touched a penny of it yet as I've been as vigilant as I can about purchasing things staggered over the months and only buying when reduced/only buying things I truly need/buying second hand or seconds. I wrote a list the other day of the big items we've bought and how much they should have been and we've saved almost £1300. Basically (with the big items) we've saved more than we've spent, which is quite pleasing.

Sorry, I have gone off on a rant there. But just because you aren't prepared to waste money doesn't necessarily mean that your strapped for cash and in need of help!

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 23:15:44

Textbook I'm hoping they work - the IBS tablets i sometimes take have peppermint oil in and they work so hopefully these will be similar. The wind was agonising last time.... I also have peppermint tea.

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 23:24:05

Totally agree with you rox and charleston although its a personal decision.

We've saved lots of money buying second hand, and it's not that I'm skint I would just rather spend my money elsewhere on family holidays or save it for the future. We bought new furniture for the nursery however we only did this because I couldn't find any nice second hand stuff otherwise I would have done. I understand why people like to buy new but to me second hand is perfectly fine.

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 23:27:09

I'm starving! Eat or sleep eat or sleep??

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 23:30:52

Eat! DP just got some chips from the chippy!!! Totally dirty at this time of night, they were bloody lush grin

PseudoBadger Wed 04-Sep-13 23:32:35

Omg chips would be amazing! I think I'll have to settle for cheese on toast.

Ana I agree with fix and charleston as long as hasn't been open for ages.

Natalie glad the baby hasn't continued growing too rapidly.

Boots do extra points and send vouchers if in the parenting club, have a look at their website. The points don't expire and are handy for when things are tight, I have £30 to spend, mostly earnt from buying baby things and vitamins.

Welcome newbies!

We have deliberated about sleeping arrangements and are going to go for the snuz pod as it looks nicer the pan the bed next and is better quality materials. Delivery nt until end of October so if baby is early we will use the pushchair carry cot for a night or two and/or buy the £35 Moses basket from John Lewis. Still cheaper than the nct bednest if we have to do that. We decided against renting in the end as it costs about the same to buy for 2 children, cheaper for 3. I kept bidding in ebay but they all go for £200ish and in e you factor in new panels and matrtress they cost more than buying new sometimes.

Stayed up late doing school work. This is NOT a habit I wanted to get back in to this year. Must try harder to be a slacker as I don't even have my own class... only just finished and now not in the mood for sleep even though I am knackered. Very swollen ankles which i havent had for ages and sore coccyx too. Tis working malarkey doesn't suit very pregnant women.

Flyer747 Wed 04-Sep-13 23:39:23

Oh I just wanted to add I hope I didn't come across as all preachy about second hand stuff. I just was trying to explain my thoughts on it, everyone has their own preferences etc etc. glad I've cleared that up smile
Night All

roxvox Wed 04-Sep-13 23:43:28

flyer ditto on my comments. Each to their own I say smile

Night all.

Prisci Thu 05-Sep-13 00:59:10

Ana I also agree, take it, disinfect it and use it, you don't know how long you are going to breastfeed for and indeed it is always handy to have them in more than one places.

To add to the hospital bag, it might sound odd, but a watering spray, a bit like the one you would use for houseplants. It is great after birth and going to the loo if you tore or not, fill it up with warm water and spray where needed, then pat dry, it really helps take the sting out, probably too much info but it works.

Sanjifair Thu 05-Sep-13 05:56:43

I have never bought anything second hand for myDS,but accept whatever handmedowns come my way from people I know. I have joined a local Facebook selling page and recently a friend put a breast pump for sale on there (the medela one) at a bargain price. However, although I wouldn't mind getting one as my previous one broke, I was too weirded out by the idea of using something my friend had used on her breasts, so I can understand the reluctance to use the second hand lanisoh. It's irrational, but that's just how I felt. Also agree its rude of Ana's colleague to make out she is a charity case.

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 06:13:42

Morning everyone. Well I couldn't be bothered to get up and get a snack overnight. DS woke once so I had a little sleep on his floor, and my carpal tunnel is bad this morning, my right hand is aching sad
Consultant appointment at 2.40pm. Have a good day!

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 07:40:16

U no, I really really hope it is my baby shower on Saturday I'm getting excited about it and ill be disappointed if it doesn't go ahead or has been changed to another date now lol.

Although I'm not keen on second hands clothes bottles etc i would use second hand furniture (except mattresses) I've had a second hand bed frame before, my current bed frame is second hand as ours broke, I've brought a second hand toddler sized wardrobe for bump. The other day I almost brought dd a second hand quilt cover but managed to stop myself, it meant I had to pay an extra £8 to get it new but- I'm not sure how I feel about second hand kids bedding as they quite often have accidents etc.

3 wee's last night so pretty average night sleeps here.

Just wondered also to those had already have young children will u be re using your cot mattresses? I still have dd's mattress wrapped in black bags with her cot and can't decide if I necessarily need to buy a new mattress or just airing it and giving it a once over will be sufficient? X
P.s I deffo have no intention of replacing the cot x

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 07:42:12

I'm reusing my cot mattress, it was in black bags in the loft but I brought it down about a year ago. Just need to unwrap it. I'm also reusing the Moses basket pad/mattress which is being aired at this moment.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 07:42:12

Hope your appt goes well pseudo do u have a scan too? Xx

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 07:42:35

I was meant to have a scan but it was cancelled as I had one last week.

ananikifo Thu 05-Sep-13 07:55:06

Just to clarify I'm using a lot of second hand stuff and don't see the difference tbh. Most of it looks new. It's just this nipple cream that DH and people in the office think is so weird. It's also the bad feelings that come with what was said about me.

On a completely different note, my bump is a different shape today. Baby has always laid in my right side, with right side sticking out more, but I've awoken to a symmetrical bump. I don't feel like he's dropped. I'm thinking he must have gone transverse.

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 08:28:35

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Sparkeleigh Thu 05-Sep-13 08:30:51

ana She sounds like an arse! Her comments say more about her than you and the people she's said it to will realise that, especially since I doubt you're the only one she's told about all her possessions! smile To me, passing on baby clothes and stuff is so normal it's slightly weird to make a big deal of it...

The nipple cream would ick me out though, I'd chuck it and get my own!

HotSoupDumpling Thu 05-Sep-13 08:43:28

Ana, how patronising of her! In the office I used to work in everyone earned a very decent amount of money but nonetheless second hand baby stuff and maternity clothes were handed around freely without any sense if charity - it's just sensible to reuse stuff that was only used for a short time, instead of wasting it! Re the cream, if it makes you feel dodgy, don't use it, it will cause you more stress than it's worth. I'd probably do what the others say, I.e. squeeze some out, wipe it down, use it as a nice light tube to put in the changing bag so you only use it for emergencies.

Hello chell!

Sister, hope everything feels better after a night's sleep (hah! I barely slept myself...), and that you fully enjoyed your consolation beer!

I'd have loved a snuz pod, so much better looking than the bednest. However, when I was looking to buy the delivery estimates were too late for my EDD, plus it didn't seem to fold as flat as the bednest.

So I have a bednest upstairs in the bedroom plus the cheap John Lewis Moses basket for downstairs. Hopefully we can reuse both for any second baby so it will be a little less of a mahoosive waste of money!

Thanks for the gap code pink!

Flyer747 Thu 05-Sep-13 08:57:16

Ana don't let miss show off get under your skin, all her posh fancy brand new stuff is probably all on tick (credit) anyway haha grin

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 09:14:08

Morning smile

natalie - I see your three wees and raise you eight. Nine is my record. I just need sleep!!

pseudo - hope your appointment goes well smile

sparkleigh - completely agree, it's weird she's making a big deal out of it. I've been inundated with offers of baby bits, and none of those people have made themselves out to be mother fricking Theresa!

Thanks for the code pink

Slippysnow Thu 05-Sep-13 09:14:18

Hi all,
I've been given loads of second hand clothes, blankets and toys by an emigrating friend. She had good taste and bought quality, has saved me loads. However, I'm a bit of a magpie and like to take things sometimes without really thinking if I need or actually like them that much! So have handed down some hand me downs before baby was even here. The other thing I've realised is that due to people washing baby clothes pre baby lots of the clothes haven't even been worn just washed without tags. smile so that's something to think about.

If I could go back in time I wouldn't have bought our Moses basket, they seem ideal for transporting baby around house with you, but as we live in our room (think studio flat ;) ) seems a bit wasteful for the time they actually spend in it. Ah well, they look cute and we may travel and use it.

I have a newbie question. Yesterday I had a pain which Im finding hard to describe. I suppose it felt a little bit like being kicked inside my vagina. (Baby is head down) and I don't think it is this. As I have never felt a contraction I don't know what Braxton h's feel like. Any way the pain took my breath away and happened as I was active. Maybe 10 times across an hour and a half then stopped.
I'm 33 weeks tomorrow. Any ideas?... After a useless explaination

Sparkeleigh Thu 05-Sep-13 09:21:20

slippy is it kind of a stabby pain? I've been getting pains like the baby is poking sharp little fingers in down there and it makes me wince and dance about to try to shift the position in case it is the baby... No idea what it actually is though!

pink ooh, thanks for the code! I think I might start stocking up on Christmas presents now!

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 09:23:46

Slippysnow - I get that. I'm going to see the midwife today so will ask her for a proper explanation, but I think it is baby's head bashing against my cervix. It really hurts.

I don't know if everyone is the same, but my braxton hicks are like doing a sit-up without doing it. All across my bump goes all tight and sometimes it can be painful. Like the muscles can't relax if you get me. The cervix pain I get is more like a bruised jabbing feeling. Is yours similar?

I shall report back once I've seen the midwife smile

roofio87 Thu 05-Sep-13 09:43:44

I've got so many second hand clothes for the baby, im made up about it. it means I've been able to buy some nice bits myself but have so many outfits for when I need extra. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. the nipple cream is a bit odd, I would have said fine until someone mentioned about germs, I would like want to know how long it had been open!!

Slippysnow Thu 05-Sep-13 09:55:29

Yes, I've think you've both got the same as me. A midwife explanation would be great. Sharp jabbing pain is a good explanation

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 09:59:20

Another scorcher here today. Enough already weather!!

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 10:09:40

Pseudo good luck with the consultant today.

I've just had a looooong-winded chat with the mw [yawn] who (aside from bitching about GPs passing the buck) told me to do the wee test again at the GPs tomorrow morning. Phew. I'm going to stamp my feet if anyone suggests doing the GTT again. Interestingly a friend just warned me that the Whittington are hot on Diabetes and have been known to over-react with their diagnosis and treatments.

Ana to add my 2p, I'd say it's okay to use the cream on the basis that if you'd had it leftover would you use it? But it sounds like you'll think of her patronising comment every time you use it, so for that it might be worth chucking it.

Heffa's description of BH is perfect. All tight and makes you stop in your tracks. It's been a while since I had a contraction but I seem to remember them as very different- far more like someone wringing out washing (?!)

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 10:10:28

Nat I had the same dilemma. I'm hoping to re-use cot mattress as it's been wrapped in plastic, but I guess I'll beat it out a fair bit. I think I'll get a new mattress for the moses basket though as it's far cheaper, and no idea where I stored it. DS slept in his moses a lot- I had it next to the bed as well as moving him around the house in it to sleep.

Sparkeleigh Thu 05-Sep-13 10:19:03

Oh, totally irrelevant really, but I just remembered - my midwife said that you can get someone to ring up your doctor after you've given birth and ask them to prescribe the lanisoh (?) nipple cream for you.

Prescriptions are free in NI, though I'm not sure about the rest of the UK so that's a good money saver if it's expensive. Though whether it's worth the hassle of someone having to go and collect it rather than having it handy is a moot point..

Sparkeleigh Thu 05-Sep-13 10:29:01

oh God, now I'm paranoid I'm being patronising too, I just figured that's what I'd do to save some money since we live close to the Dr's goes away and hides

Tarlia Thu 05-Sep-13 10:37:21

Can't believe the amount of posts I've just caught up on!!

Nat poor DH, I hope you run him a hot bath, gave him a back and foot rub :D. Still, great he wasn't so bad as to make you do the heavy work! It's hard to have sympathy when you are a house, isn't it!?

Cot mattress, I've bought a new one as its one part of SIDS I can control, which freaks me out a bit. I'm sure out old mattress would be perfectly fine, but I'm going to use it to make a cosy book corner instead.

ana I'd bin the cream for the pure fact that you'll think about it each time you see it and you need minimal thoughts like that PP.

Good luck at the Dr today, Badger. Hope that bp, urine and bloods are behaving. You don't have any symptoms yet do you, eg headache etc?

Second hand stuff, I was very anti before having kids and still only buy certain things ie really nice things that I wouldn't have spent the money on new. I really don't think there is anything wrong with reusing at all so long as it can have a good wash.

Can't remember anything else ha.

HotSoupDumpling Thu 05-Sep-13 10:47:50

Ohhh rubbbbbiish.......... Just realised I'm supposed to start perineal massage confused

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 10:51:58

How r u feeling tarlia?

Isit 7 o clock yet? I'm making spag bowl for dinner and I really wanna eat it right now!!!! I'm 34+3 but for the last week or so I literally want to stuff my face with food ....

Its another scorcher here today too pseudo dd is pleased as she has a meltdown at getting dressed time if she can't wear a skirt or dress. I'm down to two pairs of maternity trousers now and about 3 tops that r any good so I'm limited on what I can wear now as well

I think today is the day I will pack my hospital bag, so glad I print screened those hospital bag lists u all suggested so I don't have to trawl back through the threads. Then I will no what I still need to get.... Now I just need to get myself off the sofa

Tarlia Thu 05-Sep-13 11:08:59

Nat I sooo want to say, great thanks, but honestly, awful. Pre eclampsia sucks, my head feels like it could explode. How are you doing?

Good luck packing that bag, mine is stupidly still in piles which was made worse by DP packing an Emergency bag last week.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 11:11:25

Blimey tarlia u best get bag packing, especially in your condition. R u allowed to take anything stronger than parcetamol for your headache as its pre eclampsia related?

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 11:12:40

Oh gosh Tarlia sorry you feel so bad sad How often do you need to be checked out?
I've got pretty bad swelling and the old flashing visual thing, but nothing else so far.

snowgal Thu 05-Sep-13 11:22:31

On the topic of second-hand baby stuff, I'd recommend taking anything and everything people offer. We barely bought anything for DS as a number of our friends were moving on from the newborn stage. Some of it proved to be of no use but it did mean that we could assess what we actually needed and focus our investment there rather than buying everything it mentions on those "must have" baby lists. Like I say we ended up just chucking a lot of it up in the loft and never touching it but it was great when I thought "I really could do with..." I'd double check we didn't have it first! Only things I wouldn't take second-hand were sheets, mattresses etc, and I'd only take car seats from people I knew really well, so I'd know how they've been treated. It did mean that we didn't have to invest in big ticket items like pram/pushchair/travel system and could instead put all our money into the bike trailer we really wanted - I'm certainly not too proud to use a 10 year old pram which was my niece/nephews, if it saves me money in the long run.

This time around we have decided to charity shop/hand on anything we don't find useful straight away, then we'll assess stuff at a later stage (and once we've made a considered decision if this is definitely the last one) and hand on.

Rough night last night, DS had a late nap and as a result wasn't the slightest bit sleepy (he's never been a big sleeper - fx this next one is) DP and I were still up with him at 11.30pm and somehow both feel asleep on his bedroom floor. Woke up at 12.45, got to bed then was plagued with cramp all night - arrgghhh!

Now really intrigued by the Snuz Pod, was planning on hiring a Bednest from NCT but they seem an awful lot cheaper and more attractive - does anyone know of anyone who has used one? DS ended up co-sleeping with me a lot and I'm keen to get more sleep this time around.

Another question for those with toddlers, what are you planning to do about baby monitors? We have an Angelcare monitor which has been brilliant and we still use it for DS overnight so we can hear him when he inevitably wakes in the night plus the night light is just light enough to find missing dummies etc., so I'd like for him to keep using it. However the Angelcare monitor has the movement sensor which was great for teeny ones

snowgal Thu 05-Sep-13 11:33:14

Sorry just noticed that the Snuzpod isn't available until 31st Oct, so obviously no-one is going to have experience of using it - disregard my last question!

sad for those really not feeling well, the last few weeks of pregnancy shouldn't be like that - very unfair

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 05-Sep-13 11:53:33

Hello all, sympathies to everyone feeling rotten. Tarlia your headache sounds utterly horrid.

Very boring question but, if you've got (or are going to get) the bednest which sheets are you buying?

I've ordered a few directly from the NCT website but they are on the expensive side (and experience tells me it's good to have a plentiful supply!). Just struggling to get my head around the bednest mattress dimensions.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 12:02:36

snow I have fisher price lights monitor here perfect for what u want in ds room. Enough light to find dummies etc but not disturb sleep, leaving your angel care one free for the new baby.
I don't use a monitor for dd anymore so I will just use this one for when I need one for the new baby

Warlin Thu 05-Sep-13 12:19:10

Hi all

Gosh you ladies are hard to keep up with...I'm assuming tht those still in work are a tad distracted?!

Good luck today pseudo

ana how rude of that girl in work!

I'm washing sheets for Moses basket and cot today. Ds grew out of his Moses basket at about 9 weeks but used it loads up until then. We bought a stand for upstairs and downstairs so we could just carry it downstairs. He had most of his naps in it. Going to get the last few things for my hospital bag from tesco today.

Sorry to those who aren't feeling well. Sending get well vibes thanks

snowgal Thu 05-Sep-13 12:24:18

natalie I think you're right we probably need to move DS on the baby monitor, only problem is he's a way down the corridor from us so by the time we've heard him he's really ramped up the crying and is wide awake. Will have a look for a night light for him

SeriousStuff Thu 05-Sep-13 12:29:24

Ladies, I've reached a new low...listening to the radio and 'Slipping through my fingers' ABBA just came on and I'm bawling my eyes out. My daughter hasn't even been born yet and this song is really upsetting me!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 05-Sep-13 12:48:37

Ahhh, that song gets me every time too! Have a good old blub <passes the tissues>

HotSoupDumpling Thu 05-Sep-13 12:51:22

Serious - agree, that's such a sad song!

Bridget re bednest sheets, I'm getting these JL ones.

P.S. The JL moses basket arrived and it is pretty awful, even given that it's the cheapest they sell. Maybe it's bad luck with the one we got.

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 12:52:37

Just back from the hairdressers- figured I'd get the last cut in for another 6months (plus)!

I'm finally sorting thru the baby clothes I've bought (GAP/H&M) and can't remember what a sensible quantity of each size/shape is! My brain just goes to fluff every time I try to think about it.
Anyone worked out a sensible list I could crib from?

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 05-Sep-13 12:54:44

Thanks Soup - think I'll do the same.

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 12:56:48

Oh and Natalie I'm with you on the maternity wardrobe- getting more limited by the day!

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 13:14:19

I just got one of these, life changer, I'm so thrilled with it. I thought I'd struggle to find a decent nursing bra for my massive boobs but this one actually fits and is so comfy! Hurrah.


Haylebop12 Thu 05-Sep-13 13:24:35

I'm having my hair done next week pink4boys although saying that as its fairly long and thick I can go a wee while before a cut and it looks ok left to dry naturally as its a bit wavy.

All my friends with kids have there's all back t school so trying to find something to do with dd today is a bit annoying. I want an easy option of something I can do with her which involves me sitting reading a mag and her playing! Off to a play place centre it is. I just don't have the energy to walk round the park!

serious I'm with you on the emotional stuff, I blubbed at the lady who had a water birth on the midwives on Tuesday.

In ready to cuddle my baby now... Wah!

roofio87 Thu 05-Sep-13 13:51:29

just back from my breast feeding antenatal workshop. was good and good to hear of all the support that's available. they will see you in hospital then aim for a homr visit within 48 hours to see how you're doing then support you as much as you want after that. im very impressed!!

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 14:10:53

Just back from the midwife and I asked about the cervix pain. She said it is baby's head grinding and bumping against it. It will happen sometimes when you are walking and sometimes the baby will push themselves against it. It's apparently all very normal, if rather painful. She did a lovely demonstration by shmushing her fist into the palm of her other hand, the fist being the baby's head.

Hayleybop and pink - i'm having my hair cut next week too, I'm trying to find a nice easy maintenance haircut. Problem is i have flat hair that goes a bit flicky if left to its own devices. I'm hoping the hairdresser will perform some sort of miracle.

roofio - I'm really jealous of your bfing workshop! That sounds awesome. The most you can get round here is a helpline number to call sad once I'm up and about I will be going to a support group though so that's good smile

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 14:12:20

roof I'd add that the b-f helpline is also fantastic. I called when I had first signs of mastitis and they were brilliant. I was hallucinating and had really swollen sore boobs and they told me to have a really hot shower and massage out some milk. Worked like magic.
Maybe that's why they recommend hot baths/showers Chickie (was that you who said that?)

On that note- just got my boob-warming/cooling pad from Boots. Again worked a treat last time. Better than the red & savoy cabbages DH brought home! (I think it's the green one that's supposed to work)

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 14:14:59

oh dear... I can't keep up with all of you... the last two days of looking after DS while trying to work from home literally killed me... it all ended up in a massive tantrum and tears last night (me not DS!) sister I screamed yesterday too. DS wanted to negotiate everything and just didn't listen to anything I said - everything turned into a discussion "but mummy if I do this I can do that etc..." No you can't. "but mummy it's not fair that..." Well, life is not fair - learn it. I swear this child will be a lawyer.

And this morning, back in the office, I spent over an hours trying to comfort a colleague who's just found out she is 7 weeks pregnant with twins. Totally distressed and has been crying for the last 3 days. She had some bleeding so they scanned her early - two clear heartbeats... she is in the middle of buying a house, she doesn't earn a lot (she is 3 levels below me so I can imagine) and her husband earns even less. She was up for promotion but, knowing my team, she is now convinced she won't get it. And she is absolutely petrified about the costs, her career, and all the life changes. On top of it, she is South African so not like her mum can fly over quickly if she needs any help... I feel so sorry for her and don't know what else to tell her. legally are there any twin MN threads I could point her to? Or any other support groups? And what else can I tell her to help?

heffalump what terrible news... such bad timing indeed... do you work yourself and do you get a decent maternity pay? Or do you rely entirely on his job? hope he will find something soon and you are not too stressed, although probably easier said than done... flowers

tarlia sorry you are feeling rotten. Not long to go now xx (by the way, to answer your earlier question - DP is as English as they come, although technically half American, and speaks only English! My other two languages are Russian and Spanish - my uni degree)

pseudo good luck with your consultant appointment!

bridget my house-elves have stolen my breast pump and baby monitor... can't find them anywhere although definitely saw them after we moved in November... I've looked everywhere. So annoying and both expensive things to buy. I bet I will find them a week after I buy new ones

ana your colleague probably means well but is insensitive and rude in the process. Some people behave like this as money and possessions are the only things they have that make them feel good about themselves. Don't get upset - it's all about her not you xx I got most things for DS1 second hand from my best friend, including BF bras! (I would never ever take them from anyone else but they fitted me perfectly and she was my best friend so didn't feel weird!) She had another baby later though and moved back to Denmark, taking it all back, so I'm now having to buy all of it myself for this baby :-)

natalie hope you will get your baby shower this Saturday smile

pink hope all goes well with your wee test retake!

sorry for the mammoth post... so much happening

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 14:17:36

pink that's brilliant to hear the bfing helpline are good! I will not hesitate to call them for help then.

Oh and my midwife had my blood results and they are all good. Not anaemic smile she has told me the fainting is my bodies way of telling me to slow down. I'm really quite big now so it just seems to be taking quite a toll on my body. Feet up it is then!!

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 14:23:08

Thanks clapham unfortunately we were relying on his wage. I became poorly and had to stop my nursing degree halfway through then very unexpectedly fell pregnant. I trying to stay calm and just do the practical things to help the situation. Sorry you are having a trying time with your ds, but I have to agree he sounds like he will make a great lawyer one day!

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 14:36:01

Clapham sorry you've had some tough days sad

Ok I'm bored in the waiting room so.... Has anyone else got their head in the sand about anything?
I'm avoiding getting my Medela Swing out of the cupboard as I'm worried it's gone mouldy or something. And I'm avoiding getting my pram out of the car where it's lived (behind the seats - my car is big) covered in mud for about 12 months, as I don't want to clean it and I bet the hydraulics have gone.

legallyblond Thu 05-Sep-13 14:43:52

I give up! I can't keep up with this particular thread for some reason..!


Tarlia so sorry the PE is treating you badly. Tbh I do think you're lucky you are not admitted though... Here they seem v keen on hospital admissions from 35 weeks or so for constant monitoring...

Pseudo I hope your PE does not get too bad too soon...

Smitten I LOVE the bravado body silk bra... A few if us have it and have raved about it on other threads.

Heffy so sorry about your DH's job... It must be very stressful.

Clapham there is a multiple births thread (in being a parent, not becoming a parent) and she would get responses if she posted there. I can honestly say that I know how she feels... Even though my circs are different. I was in genuine shock, feeling v overwhelmed, for weeks. A close friend also has spontaneous twins now 2 months old) and found out at 7 weeks. She felt terrified too. I think it is entirely normal to feel fear more than excitement when you first discover its twins - I certainly did. It's exacerbated by the fact that at every appointment you're told how high risk it all is etc etc... TAMBA have a helpline staffed by twin mums, so she may want to google that and call them?

Flyer747 Thu 05-Sep-13 15:17:13

My friend in Australia gave birth to a gorgeous little girl this morning weighing 7lb 5oz, 6 hours in total from the very first contraction to the end result. So chuffed for her she is 43 and thought she'd never have a baby. Already been out in my lunch break to buy a little outfit to send to Oz. I shed a little tear of joy, I want my baby now :-)

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 15:17:29

Just finished my health visitors appt. she was a new lady, very supportive very helpfull lovely lady have me baby's red book and said I need to pack it in my hospital bag contents to that currently spread over my bed till dh gets home to reach the bag I want to use as when they do the newborn hearing screen at the hospital they need to write the results in it. Not sure if that's the same for all areas? Xx

How r u feeling legally really really not long to go now x

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 16:15:06

Well BP and urine all fine; the appointment was basically me signing elcs consent forms (scary!) and being given all the info. So I am booked for the afternoon list on the 7th October (39+2). But will be having an emcs if I go into labour before - DS was born at 38 weeks.....

pinkbuttons Thu 05-Sep-13 16:25:24

Hello ladies 400 posts in 2 days! maybe the twins won't ve born on this thread legally! Really cant keep up but just checking in.
Exciting to have a date pseudo hope baby waits so get a calm elective experience.

Glad HV was ok natalie exciting to already have babies red book! don't think we get ours here until baby is born.

Cant remember who said but just to say thankyou aboutvthe explanation of sharp crotch pains. Have been getting so many and didnt understand how it feels like shes kicking her way out when shes head down.

35+5 here and hospitap bag packing commences today.
sorry to everyone Ive missed, no idea how Im going to keep up when everyones off work grin

pinkbuttons Thu 05-Sep-13 16:26:33

Also meant to say Im sorry your feeling so rubbish tarlia what is BP doing? How is DS? x

Soupqueen Thu 05-Sep-13 17:07:16

I can't keep up either, maybe it'll be easier when I'm on mat leave? At the moment, I have a quick look at breakfast and then nothing until I get home (which is usually much later than this, had an appointment this afternoon). 1 week to go at work (+1 day) and if anything, I'm busier than ever!

smitten, if it's not too personal a question, what bra size are you and which body silk did you get? I think I'm too large but it'd be good to know if there is more room in them than I assume!

Just back from hospital scan. Growth is still on 50th centile, placenta blood flow fine so just need to go in for weekly monitoring from 36 weeks and, if all continues to be fine, hope desparately to go into labour by 40 weeks otherwise it's an induction.

I'm meeting some of the ladies from my NCT class for lunch tomorrow smile , hopefully we'll continue to meet up after the babies get here.

heffa, that's horrible news, sucky timing sad

Wickedgirl Thu 05-Sep-13 17:34:28

Wow this thread is moving fast!

With all of mine, I have bought new mattresses for the crib and cot. I have a crib in my bedroom and another downstairs as the baby can stay in a crib a lot longer than a Moses basket.

I'm not bothering with a baby monitor........I only had one with my first and it kept picking up the neighbours baby too which annoyed me so I didn't bother with one when I had the boys.

Here we don't get the red books until about day 10 when the midwives "hand us over" to the health visitors.

I'm another one struggling to keep up. I think the tiredness I'd getting to us all now.

soupqueen there's a size chart on the web page. They only fit up to an f cup so were no use for me sad.

Dd came back from school much happier after the deputy head got her, my niece and the bullies together to discuss what had been happening. It's her 12th birthday today and I didn't want it marred by the bullying. I'm so glad I got it sorted out when I did.

Despite not gaining any weight in weeks I feel so much heavier. Turning over in bed is such an effort. I feel like I have bricks inside me and not a baby.

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 17:37:42

Soup, I went to from a 36F to a 40F in normal bras, but the 40F was really uncomfortable last week and I think was making me get heartburn and I could kind of feel the baby wriggling underneath it, so it was probably getting too tight.

I got the XL and there's plenty of room in the back still. It seems pretty stretchy. It also somehow makes my boobs look smaller - result!

I have cankles again today, even though I tried not to be on my feet all day.

One of the teachers had her baby today by emcs 2 days after being induced and 13 days late. She really wanted a natural birth. sad So did the DP of a male teacher at school who had an induction and epidural at the end of July, she wanted water birth in MLU. Brought it home that things don't always go to plan though still crossing fingers all will be ok for us. I suppose it doesn't matter once you get your baby safely out.

Little green sheep recommend their 35x75 cm sheets for the snuzpod even though smaller than the mattress as they stretch.

I didn't used to like the idea of 2nd hand and want the best for our baby but am trying to become more frugal in preparation for losing my income. Got my BF chair, some clothes, angelcare sensor pad monitor and a cot top changer 2nd hand so far and given a breast feeding pillow and playpen from friends. Also stopped being such a snob about the pound shop which I was angry replaced m&s food as it brings down the appearance of the area but actually has some useful bits. Got cheap vacuum seal bags for clothes, toothbrush for hospital bag and containers for freezing food there. We then spend lots on things that matter to me like the pushchair and things that I really wanted new because of germs/risks like bedding and carseat.

We've just booked a two evening baby and child first aid course for next week which should be useful.

Oh and my maternity leggings, trousers, jeans and stretchy dress/long top no longer fit me so my wardrobe is shrinking too. Hopefully they will fit again for a while on the way back too. I am going to stick to summery dresses while it is hot then maybe buy some bigger leggings and a cardigan to go with them if autumn/winter arrives properly before the baby does.

Soupqueen Thu 05-Sep-13 18:14:50

We're doing a baby first aid class too orange

I think I just need to go and try a body silk bra on. I'm currently in a 36G with the cups ever so slightly loose, so if it's comfy on 40F, it might work. Taking my bra off is one of the highlights of my day blush

diege Thu 05-Sep-13 18:19:16

I wonder if it would be ok for me to join? A bit late in the day I know blush Due date 22nd October, baby number 6. Currently 33 weeks and in need of somewhere to off-load/seek advice etc! Current panic is that I don't have what I need. Dc 6 a big surprise and had just sold the last of the baby stuff on ebay... Has anyone packed their hospital bag yet? confused

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 18:29:20

Welcome diege by the looks of all the posts ATM lots of us r just starting to pack our bags I'm due oct 14th and made a start today but I'm still short of a few things for it. I no others r completely packed and others not started but then some p r 32 weeks while others r closing in on week 37 so I guess that explains the variation in people's preperations lol.

At least being baby number 6 u no what's a waste of time to buy and what u will atchly need. Do u no if your having a boy or girl?

Haylebop12 Thu 05-Sep-13 18:35:27

Welcome diege

There's another mum on number 6 on this thread. cazboldy iirc? How old are your other children?

I too have started my bag but its about 75% there. Just few bits and pieces for baby now. I went into labour at 37+5 with my dd so wanted everything ready by 36.

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 18:39:39

Soup, I'd have thought that size would be fine, it seems pretty stretchy, but still supportive. I'm hopeful it will still contain my baps if they suddenly grow over the next month.

chellyyx Thu 05-Sep-13 18:44:03

Anyone else getting a pressure on their pelvis from baby's head hmm only when I sit down I can feel her head touching the left side.. Doesn't hurt as such but it's a horrible feeling hmm

smitten sorry if I'm always banging on about bra sizes but have you used the bra guru better bra campaign fitting guide? Your rib cage measurement sounds big for someone who looks so slim.

diege Thu 05-Sep-13 19:14:36

Thanks for the welcome smile. I currently have 3 girls and 2 boys (dds: 12, 10, 7; ds's: 4 and 22 mths). This baby is a boy so nice and neat now grin Will keep a eye out for the other 'sixer' on the thread!
Right, I'm going to get The Bag sorted this weekend I think - or should I say bags plural? I have vague memories of having one for me and one for baby, but maybe I'm making that up confused Just 3 weeks or more left at work which will be a massive relief, not least through losing the commute. I'll have to have a good read through now so I can see where everyone in up to smile

Wickedgirl Thu 05-Sep-13 19:25:08

Welcome diege, I packed my bag when I was only 23/24 weeks blush

I wanted it packed while I was still earning good money so could buy everything I needed and while I wasn't in too much pain from SPD/PGP.

I am now 35+1 with baby 4 and have been waiting around for what seems like an eternity. Still, we are all getting close to that day now.

orange once the cooler weather arrives, I am down to 2 pairs of jeans and one pair of leggings and only 4 tops. My washing machine and tumble will be constantly on! I am currently living in primark and new look maxi dresses which will look odd in the cold, wet weather.

Welcome diege, my stuff is all upstairs in various piles around the bag but need to actually pack it with DH. I am 33+4.

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 19:47:14

Ooh, thanks MoN! I'm not that slim though, I was a size 16 before I got pregnant. I have looked at the bra guru threads but I've always found buying bras a nightmare to be honest and it scares me a bit.

I've found that 36 fitted the best before and that was what I was always measured at in shops. I'll definitely be checking their guide though when I start buying nice bras again.

Who said this pregnancy was turning a corner. I am in hospital had to go in and get a ctg due to non movement and her heart was not doing enough accelerations so im kept in to do another and if its still not very reactive I might need to be delivered sad I honestly give up angry

Back at work now and can't keep up!

Have today had the date for pre op which is 3rd Oct and elc will be 10th which is only 5 weeks today! Can't believe it smile

Hope everyone is ok and I will try to catch up properly at the weekend!

Umlauf Thu 05-Sep-13 19:52:28

Wow I've missed a lot!

Ana your colleague sounds a handful! It seems she means well but comes across awfully! I'd use the cream, maybe scrape off the first bit but use the rest. Most of my stuff and the baby's is second hand so I have no qualms!

Seriousstuff that song has always made my Mum burst into floods of tears and I have NEVER understood why until I became pregnant! The other one that gets my in tears every time is Nativity, the Christmas movie with Martin Freeman. Have you seen it? It's just about a primary school nativity play, but there is a scene when a Dad gets all teary and proud because his little girl is in the play and I just break down! I would definitely recommend it!

smitten the bra looks lovely, I wish I had vaguely normal boob proportions! I'm a bra-vangelist (like Mon perhaps?!) and having been trained at Bravissimo I am unable to wear anything thats not my "proper" size, which is a bleedin' 32J - the size NO NURSING BRA comes in!! Apart from the Panache Sophie, and really ugly Royce ones. I've been thinking about buying an XL in the Bravado and trying to take the back in to the equivalent of a 32 - so what back and cup size roughly is the XL do you know??

nat and orange I'm struggling with maternity clothing too, I'm basically not leaving the house and so not changing out of my PJs! I'm having a bit of fun with online shopping my post baby wardrobe, but even that is severely restricted as I have no idea what size I'll be as I've gotten so big (not in bump, in BUM).

Welcome diege and congratulations on number 6! What a lovely surprise!! I've nearly packed the hospital bags. What have you all put in for your going home outfits??? I've had to place an emergency order with M&S as I realised we do not have ONE piece of newborn sized clothing at all, everything is 0-3 or bigger. I do think he'll be huge though!

I rang DH today on his mobile, just for a chat, and when he answered he was really panicky and out of breath. Turned out he has been in a conference, in the middle of giving a talk in front of 100 odd people, and he thought I'd gone into labour! He was not best pleased when I asked "so what would you like for dinner?!?!"

Sparkeleigh Thu 05-Sep-13 19:56:12

falcon oh no, you've had enough stress sad sending hugs and will keep my fingers crossed for you flowers

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 19:57:31

falcon sorry to head your in hospital and having a stressful time! But think of it like this, worst case scenario and they deliver u then u are one of the first due dates on the thread and therefore shouldn't in an ideal world have any makor complications too contend with. Sometimes babies r better out than in. If they decide u have to deliver will it be an induction or Emcs? Sending u hugs and flowers xxx

umalauf I have just packed 4 baby's and 4 vests clothes wise for the baby. 2 of the baby grows being more 'luxurious' and will use one of those as going home outfits as I'm not keen on newborn babies in proper clothes (hope that doesn't offend anyone) I just like them in nice soft baby grows xx

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 20:01:15

Ignore that.... I haven't packed 4 baby's lol I have packed 4 babygrows

Haylebop12 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:05:12

diege wow nice and even now. I'm one of four, two boys the two girls. If you go the beginning of the thread there is a link to the spreadsheet with names, dates, sex and name options for baby. That might help get you up to speed smile

falcon glad they're looking after you. You've had it so tough :-(

blue yay for getting your date. Something to aim towards.

smitten I was a size 14/16 before getting pregnant. More a 16 and used to wear back size 36. I was shocked to be measured at 40d but the bras I have got are fine. Could do with a couple of decent nursing bras so might look into those silk ones up thread.

pinkbuttons Thu 05-Sep-13 20:07:20

Oh no falcon Hope your ok. so sorry to hear your back in hospital,but dont give up. Im so glad your in and being monitored. If baby needs to come out now then its what will be for the best for you both. Youve had enough stress already this pregnancy I just hope that this is your last hurdle. thanks

Laughing at packing 4 babies nat and your DH running out of a conference to your very important call umlauf

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:11:51

Umlauf, I think the XL might be too big at the back as its recommended for a 40F and up from what I can make out, but the L might be too small a cup size. I'd maybe order both and send one back, one of them should fit you, they seem quite versatile size-wise.

There's a sizing guide on the website though, just in case I'm talking rubbish.

legallyblond Thu 05-Sep-13 20:13:15

So sorry Falcon - must be v scary. But often babies are better out than in at this stage, for all sorts of reasons, and I'm sure she'd be fine at this gestation. If I were you, I would push for steroids tonight just in case? Would hugely help her lungs if they decide to exit her in the near future. Keep us posted if you can x x x

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 20:15:49

Falcon I'm so glad you're in being monitored, it's the best place as you know. I am thinking of you xx

Umlauf Thu 05-Sep-13 20:15:58

I'd need to take the back in a lot smitten but a 40F would be a 38FF, 36G, 34GG so a 32H, so still 2 cup sizes too small.... but I could try for later on.... Hmmm.... I'll see if I get a little smaller after the initial football-boob effect wears off!

So sorry to hear what you're going through falcon it must be really scary and I hope you have people with you.

Loving the four babies nat !! I'm staying 3 days in hospital and have 5 babygrows, 5 vests and 2 cardis. Do you think I need more??

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:16:57

How worrying Falcon, at least you're being monitored though. Sending positive thoughts your way, can't be great being in hospital in this heat either hmm

JellyCurls Thu 05-Sep-13 20:21:03

Good luck for next monitoring of baby falcon, keeping fingers and toes crossed for you x

Can't keep up with rest of thread so no idea who's been saying what. So hope everybody else is keeping healthy and well will try to catch up now but not holding out much hope for myself

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 20:21:12

For 3 days in hospital uma I would take at least 6 unless your dh can return home for extras? One for day one for night for 3 days that's without any sick or poo incidents lol

Shirehobbit Thu 05-Sep-13 20:21:48

Another one struggling to keep up now I'm back at work! confused

I have just packed an 'emergency' mini hospital bag and put the car seat in the car as we are away at a wedding all weekend, and it would be awful to be 300miles away from home and needing to go in...
I'm going with the philosophy that now I've thought about it, it can't happen. Hobbit logic.

Falcon - sending huge positive vibes your way. Hope everything is ok x

roofio87 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:26:26

I've put 5 sleepsuits and 5 vests in for baby just in case and I'm hoping not to be in for long so I'd pack more if I were you umlauf or at least have them in an obvious place at home so your dh can bring more in to you.
falcon sending positive thoughts your way. like others have said best they are keeping an eye on you and if you have to deliver then it will be for the best!!

Haylebop12 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:27:54

umlauf I too would pack at least six, more if your dh couldn't easily get more. I stayed in two nights with dd and as she was very sicky as a newborn we got through quite a lot. Plus the blood And other gory bits from delivery!

Soupqueen Thu 05-Sep-13 20:28:15

falcon, sending positive thoughts your way.

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 20:51:28

falcon I hope all goes well- you're in the best hands xx

Is anyone else looking forward to the break in weather tomorrow? This summer has been fantastic, but it's exhausting!

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 20:56:53

thinking of you falcon xx

pinkforboys me me me me!! I'm checking my weather phone apps obsessively these days... I thought I was going to die on the tube this morning. Anyone else had to go on Northern Line? One of the guys in my team was stuck on it for an hour and a half. I left a bit later thankfully and it was still a nightmare

Sorry to here you're back in hospital falcon. I can only imagine how worried and stressed you must be.

Umlauf Are you like me and have to fight the urge to tell strangers in the street that they're wearing the wrong size bra?
I couldn't hold back last week in Asda when I saw a woman with much bigger boobs than me pick up a 38B when I'd just had to buy a 34G. She looked at my quite modest looking boobs in disbelief and went ahead and went ahead and bought the 38B

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 21:02:31

I'm reluctant to measure my boobs. I currently wear a 42dd and worry if I measure I may find I go up a back size then id be screwed cos I wouldn't be able to buy a bra anywhere in a 44 lol

Where do ou normally get measured Natalie? Because if it's anywhere other than Bravissimo, John Lewis or Debenhams chances are your back is less than 44.

42 even.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 21:14:16

I've never been measured MoN I just no a 42dd seems to fit ok-ish lol

A 38 B seemed to fit me until I went to Bravissimo and found out I was really a 32 E. I only went to get fitted because the cups on the 38 were gaping but an A cup didn't fit right either.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 21:22:43

MoN when u was at your largest weight what size back did u have then?

Shirehobbit Thu 05-Sep-13 21:23:20

We so need to name a thread in honour of MoN - bra evangelist, at some point.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 21:26:00

Right I'm gunna make dh measure me, what's the link I need? Lol

Umlauf Thu 05-Sep-13 21:32:05

Sort of mon when I worked there I was really bad at ambushing strangers but I've mellowed a bit now. The worst is when I see people with the band of their bras higher than the back of their strappy tops, then I HAVE to intervene!!

I think I'll get a back up pile of baby clothes for DH to grab, you're right, ill need much more!

roofio87 Thu 05-Sep-13 21:33:32

haha, mon I love your enthusiasm, definitley made me think twice about my size. I'm going to go to bravissimo next week and get one nursing bra to see me through the start and then see how it goes once my milk has come in!!

JellyCurls Thu 05-Sep-13 21:35:40

Google bra guru it should come up.

Basically measure under bust and that's back size, no adding on 4 or 5 inches. Then braless lean over 90 degree angle, or as much as bump allows and measure your free dangle. If dangle 1 inch bigger then you an A cup, 2inch is a B and so on. Am sure that's right, I went from a 38B which didn't fit great to a 34 G which fits super

I was wearing a 46 B at my heaviest Natalie More than likely completely the wrong size. I've only been wearing the right size for the past 3 years.

AnythingNotEverything Thu 05-Sep-13 21:39:44

MoN - I struggle to keep my mouth shut! I've been a bravissimo convert for 6 years and am becoming a bit preachy about it.

Natalie - almost all women go down at least one back size and up in the cup. Give it a go. A well fitting bra is the best foundation for any outfit.

I'm struggling to keep up with you ladies though! I've got 8 more days at work and think by then we'll start seeing more babies rolling in.

Char1ston - I send you a PM re: the fb group. I'll try again.

I also need to add myself to the spreadsheet. Phew busy busy!

Good luck to us all in these final few weeks. It's great hearing everyone's experiences.

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 21:41:42

Surely I haven't done it right

My under chest measures 47 inches :-/ and bust 54 which makes me like a 47f

I can't be a 47/48 when I currently wear 42. Do u even get size 48 bras lol I tried a 42e on the other week and the cup gaped quite a bit

How are you doing falcon? Thinking of you and little Willow.

Better to round down than to round up for the under bust measurement. You have to pull the tape tight. For the over bust measurement braless is best and lean forward and keep the tape looser.

Tarlia Thu 05-Sep-13 21:53:15

falcon thinking of you tonight. When are they doing the next CTG? I hope tonight and not in the morning as you'll never sleep.

Chuckling at the boob dangling going on tonight.
I'm dreading buying breastfeeding bras as I've big busted too , HAVE to have wired, just cannot face non. Still, I'm not going to worry about that until I'm out of hospital as will live in my sleep bras while so engorged.

clapham those poor people trapped for so long. I hope you take water for your journey just in case as that would be horrific, so hot and cramped.

Thank you for the well wishes. Bp been high 80s low 90s today with my increased meds.

Forgot who asked, but my head is firmly in the sand over packing, which is really stupid. I don't have the energy to even consider what to pack, can't follow your fab lists as most supplied. I'm being really silly!

Wickedgirl Thu 05-Sep-13 21:58:10

Falcon, how far are you now? Are you almost at 37 weeks? I'm sure that if the hospital deliver you now, both you and the baby will be fine. 37 weeks is considered "term" so as soon as you hit that, your baby is no longer classed as being premature. I hope everything goes well for you both flowers

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 22:00:54

U def need to get packed tarlia pack pack pack lol

So I must be like a 44/46 e/f MoN.... Maybe when I give birth I will measure a 42 As I no quite a few of u have gone up a back size or 2 during pregnancy. Its difficult isnt it as different places and styles seem to offer different fits if that makes sense?i don't think I'm funny rush out for more bras until after I've had the baby then ill re measure and perhaps Ask for a few more luxurious bras off my mum for Xmas or something or tell dh I urgently need them when I've given birth lol

Maybe 46 FF but like you say all bras are different. I'm measuring as a 36 G right now but had to get a 34 F in the cheap Asda bras I got to tide me over until I'm in nursing bras.

Second trace done and its much better still in overnight and might have to come in for weekly ctgs till she arrives but does not look like ill need whisked to theatre the now at least smile

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 22:15:09

Excellent news falcon and good that they r keeping u in to keep an eye on you. Such a relief for you. Xxxx

Thanks MoN next time I'm in town I might nip in m+s and try and bigger back size on just to get a feel of what I feel like in it. Then go from there I think xx

That's good falcon. I was rather selfishly wondering how I was going to get any sleep tonight for worrying about you and Willow.

Shirehobbit Thu 05-Sep-13 22:16:28

Hope you get some rest tonight, Falcon x

Whatever you do don't let M&S measure you Natalie.

PseudoBadger Thu 05-Sep-13 22:18:40

That's good Falcon, rest well x

Thanks everyone no way I would get through this pregnancy without you all really want the roller Coster to end now xxx

notsoold Thu 05-Sep-13 22:26:48

Hi all!!!
I am still lurking around...33 weeks and baby is still breech ( slightly panicking about it).
My gestational diabetes is more under control but will have a scan next week to check size again....
M&S for bras and debenhms are awful and actually I don't know where to go for my nursing bras...
I am loving reading about the bags and gearing myself to start on then soon....need to find nighties ( cheap ones)

roxvox Thu 05-Sep-13 22:28:16

Glad to hear things are looking better falcon, fingers crossed you'll have an uneventful night and that little Willow stops worrying her Mummy so much!

Are these Bravado seamless bras the ones that you were all chatting about on an older thread? I seem to remember someone saying they were available in John Lewis and that they were amazing - is the one that smitten has linked to the same? I ask because I am off on a shopping jolly tomorrow (first day of maternity leave) and I might feel obliged to treat myself to another nice nursing bra.

Last day of work today, 2 weeks annual leave now and then my maternity leave officially starts when I am 38+4. Everyone in the office was lovely and they made me a party lunch (which is very sweet, especially when you consider I work with all males who I know would've preferred a trip to the pub). A colleague's wife knitted me loads of things (teddy comforter, socks, booties, hat, cardigan and blanket - pic on Facebook) which I thought was so sweet, especially as I have never met her. I genuinely feel like I am going to be missed, which is a lovely feeling. But saying goodbye to a few of the guys was quite hard because we've grown very close over the past few years!

Whoever said about shooting pains low down - yes, me too. Only started today, and they're most apparent when I am walking around. Someone's midewife's description of a fist punching a hand made sense to me smile (sorry for lack of relating this to people on the forum, but I can't remember who said what now).

Tarlia Thu 05-Sep-13 22:28:26

That's great news, falcon. Weekly CTGs will give you peace of mind with your lil monkey. You are in the anterior placenta club, right? Any word of a 38 week induction, or do you hope to avoid that?

nat I know. Tomorrow... hmm

We really do need to have a post natal thread. I've become to attached to you all for it to stop once our babies arrive.

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 22:34:17

good news falcon!

and please don't start the postnatal thread until we all have our babies... please don't abandon the late October ladies too early sad

Smitten1981 Thu 05-Sep-13 22:34:55

Rox, yes it's a Bravado seamless one. So comfy, I ordered another one straight away. They do them in John Lewis too.

Good news falcon. Glad they did it tonight so you can relax a little overnight. Good that they are monitoring you, they seem to be looking after you. Not too long to go now!

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 22:37:14

That's fantastic news falcon I will keep you in my prayers.

roxvox glad my appointment with the midwife has been helpful for you about the cervix issues. It's really not very pleasant, but it's good to know its all normal.

I'm also putting my head in the sand re packing my bag. I have pretty much all the stuff, I just don't know where to start! It seems like an endless list.

I haven't sorted my nursing bras either, but am actually quite excited to measure as I have a proper bust for the first time ever! Are these bravado bras ok for smaller boobs or are they just for you big busted ladies?

To the poster who mentioned her cankles upthread, you are not alone! My feet and ankles are blurring into one fat swollen mess!! Lovely! hmm

36+5 tomorrow so nearly term. She is measuring 41Weeks but no noise of induction yet tomorrow I should know more when the doc comes around.
Ds wont sleep with me not at home he will be terrible at school tomorrow sad

We need a post natal thread for sure I would be so sad without all of you xxxx

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 22:38:27

Evenin' All,
Who was it bought a Bugaboo at John Lewis and was looking for price matches? I've just found Lesters who seem really cheap and it looks like they have a shop too.

G'Night x

No intention of starting any threads Clapham the last one to have their baby can be responsible for that.

Has anyone else noticed a complete inability to spell the simplest of words since being pregnant? I find that I'm really having to think about my spelling now and often notice really stupid spelling and grammar mistakes when reading posts back. I have to fight the urge to correct every post I type.

monkeytree Thu 05-Sep-13 22:40:39

Welcome to the new ladies.

Whoever asked about lavender oil in place of tea tree oil way back in the thread, I think I used lavender oil (a few drops in the bath) after giving birth to DD but cannot be absolutely sure (last gave birth 7 years ago).

Natalie - I agree with you, I like to see new born babies in fresh baby grows as opposed to outfits

I've heard the weather is going to change tomorrow - cooler etc and can't wait. It has been a lovely summer but too hot for me. I am hoping the prediction for cooler weather comes true. The heat seems to exaggerate all my aches and pains.

For those who are struggling to get a good nights sleep at the moment (and that includes me) I hope we get at least some decent sleep tonight.

Pinkforboys Thu 05-Sep-13 22:45:54

MoN blame predictive text (we do!)

Sorry you're not with DS Falcon, you never know, he may be okay.

Heffa I'm with you on the boob front- quite envious of all this talk of big busts and cup sizes. I can't get that excited about bras- I'm just happy that the ones I wore last time still fit!

AnythingNotEverything Thu 05-Sep-13 22:47:46

Notsoold - I've looked everywhere for nighties and found nice plaid/tartan, brushed cotton button through ones at tesco and just this week at Primark. Nice dark colours.

Just waiting for my changing bag to be delivered then I can wash and pack them!

Natalieand Thu 05-Sep-13 22:49:50

We definately definately need a post natal thread. Ill feel like I've had my arms chopped off without mumsnet too read. Especially when feeding at 3am it will keep me awake lol. I just hope everyone agrees and hangs around or they would be a shame. Xx
Right time to TRY and get some sleep. I wonder how many wee breaks ill require tonight yawns
Night all.

Take care of your selves pseudo, tarlia and falcon xx

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 22:50:26

MON I cannot spell either now. I actually got quite nastily mocked on a thread I started a while ago for spelling rediculous wrong sad. Even worse I keep getting the times of things wrong. I have always been great at keeping appointments, but now even if I have looked at the letter 10 minutes before, I can't remember when something is for the life of me.

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 22:53:49

pinkforboys I will be lucky if I'm a good b/ maybe a small c cup now. And I'm not a small woman either! I'm usually a size 14 so not skinny, but i was just never blessed with big boobs!

Shirehobbit Thu 05-Sep-13 23:08:02

Having gone from the smaller end of the boob world to the weighty torpedo end, I can report that I miss my old, smaller ones.
But then I also miss my waist.
And being able to put on socks, easily.
And being able to get up without letting out an old-person style groan.
And being able to roll over in bed without thinking about it....

I should stop now, shouldn't I? wink

Lol shire

I miss being able to wipe properly after going to the loo blush much too much tmi?! grin

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 23:17:24

shire oh how i miss those things. And I miss seeing my fanny and not taking my life in my hands to trim and shave. Oh and I miss putting my own shoes on. And sitting up in bed without causing myself pain. But most of all, I miss pâté. On French bread. <drools> grin

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 23:19:48

thethreeblondies not tmi, it's a nightmare!! Dh laughed when I told him this and then very nicely said if I ever lose the ability all together he would help me. No that will not be happening, I will just never do another poo again. Simple.

textbook Thu 05-Sep-13 23:21:51

So glad to hear things are looking better Falcon - I've been checking in to see how your trace went! Hope the doctor can give you a better idea of what's going on tomorrow morning, and that your ds manages to get some sleep x

I've been feeling a bit less movement today after a very active bump day yesterday [paranoia], but she seems to have perked up this evening after I rested on my side. Had 14 movements in an hour, and been feeling lots since. Had EMCS with dd1 at 37 weeks due to reduced movement, and I'm starting to feel very anxious now at 36 weeks!

We absolutely must have a postnatal thread - I've loved having you all to chat to, and it will be lovely to have the support on the other side thanks Agree we shouldn't start it until all babies here though smile

Hello everyone else [waves] - Tarlia hope your bp stays down, hope everyone else is ok. Rain tomorrow and cooler grin

Pink and Heffa measure yourself according to the bra guru guide. You will be surprised. I definetly don't have what anyone would describe as big boobs but pre pregnancy was a 32 E and am now in a 34 F. Those cup sizes in combination with those rib cage measurements really aren't that big.

I'm with you on the appointment times Heffa.
I also lose track halfway through sentences and can't find the words to express what I want to say.

textbook Thu 05-Sep-13 23:26:59

Actual lol at things we miss grin

I miss having the energy and flexibility for positions other than missionary.blush

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 23:33:54

I miss wine. And camembert. And sushi. I miss walking without feeling breathless. I miss being less moody.

I love my boobs. Previously two miserable A cup things, they are now perfect and glorious full C cup. Sadly, also my hips and thighs have become "glorious" but I am accepting it as a package deal for the next few months...

HeffalumpTheFlump Thu 05-Sep-13 23:34:37

mon you can do missionary?! I haven't been able to lie on my back even propped up for months. Tbh I haven't been up for sex for weeks now anyway. I just feel too huge. I just dont feel sexy because it's so hard to move myself around. I can't exactly jump on dh, I would probably flatten him.

Anyway on that delightful note I need sleep. Night all x

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 23:35:08

LOL MoN. What about sideway / spooning positions?

claphammama Thu 05-Sep-13 23:36:58

ps. I'm also losing interest in sex these days... in my world, it must mean that I'm really sick or really pregnant...

Yes Herds apart from when Dp is a bit tipsy or tired and puts all his wright on me.
I found that spooning hurt my hips for some reason Clapham.

Heffa and weight. Auto correct at fault this time and not me.

SeriousStuff Fri 06-Sep-13 00:54:19

MoN I just wish I had the energy (or inclination) to do it at the moment. It really doesn't help that I haven't felt remotely sexy in the last 8 months!

I also miss...

- My waist and flat stomach, my pert bum (currently a beach ball of cellulite!) and my small manageable breasts!

- Being able to see my bits in order to keep them tidy!

- All alcohol, brie and sushi (come on Christmas!!)

- Being able to jump and roll about with my dog - just taking him for a gentle walk is a struggle now!

- Being in control of what or how much I eat

- Horse riding

- Lying on my stomach

- Being able to go an hour without having to pee

I could go on...