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December 2013 - steaming towards 3/4 cooked

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LadyMedea Sun 01-Sep-13 16:35:26

Our shiny new thread... Pile in!

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 16:44:46

Yay. Hello everyone smile

DaleyBump Sun 01-Sep-13 17:03:31

Marking place smile thanks Lady smile

MildredH Sun 01-Sep-13 17:12:06

Ooh lovely new thread. Marking place. Will be back post BBQ dinner!

MsCatShoes Sun 01-Sep-13 17:45:36

Marking my place too - hello everyone smile

MrsShrubs Sun 01-Sep-13 17:57:58

Thanks lady

I'm a bit confused - Monday I went to the labour ward because of reduced movement, everything was fine but they suspected I had a UTI because of my white cell count, got the results and was completely clear. Thursday had my scheduled MW appointment and again they did the test and urine was fine but just I've been to the loo and straight after I'd been, so not during, I had a burning sensation that went on for a minute. So this probably means I do have one doesn't it? I know they can come on quickly but that's really quick surely if I've been tested twice in a week? I've drank a lot of water to be doubly sure all week that I was hydrated but looks like it might not have worked.

Hope everyone's okay - thanks for the tip on Argos sale gannet ill be checking that out tonight!

crying you story was so funny, I've been clumsy recently but that just tops everything bless you! Hope you've enjoyed your weekend away though despite that.

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 18:20:40

Maybe it's worth having it checked again...

When I phoned labour ward they thought I had a UTI but because I said it didn't hurt to pee she ruled it out... I get a burning every now and then and it's quite painful. I'm not sure it it's one of the joys of pregnancy?

In a lot of pain with my back today my tummy hurt..Getting feeling down and fed up now and still feel like December it forever away :/

PistachioTruffle Sun 01-Sep-13 18:33:55

Hello, thanks for the new thread grin

Sorry to hear you're still feeling ropey Stom, did you get to see anyone in the end?

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 18:39:19

I gave them a call but they didn't need me to go in..
Just told me to rest that's what ive been doing! Lol

Dp just came home and said his mates wife has had a water birth and they won't let u have one unless u can get out of the pool quick if u need to so I'll doubt u will be able to have one...

Thats just made me feel even crappier - I said ill talk to the midwife but he thinks he knows it all.
I just want to cry sad sorry to be on such a downer...

Craving a curry from our local Chinese so dp has gone to get one lol

Soopermum1 Sun 01-Sep-13 19:14:07

Just come back (disappointed) from shopping for maternity clothes. Where is the rule that states all pregnant women must wear stripy tee shirts?

ooooh a shiney new thread!

We have just got home from our trip to the PILs It has been fun and tiring. Today though I have apparently developed a horrible cold. DP said he could see my face filling up with snot. Lovely grin
now it is time to die on the sofa. Hope everyone else had a great weekend & everyone is feeling better smile

13loki Sun 01-Sep-13 19:21:52

Hej all. I keep forgetting to call the physio in the 10 minutes I have where I am not teaching and the phone lines are manned! But I have swapped my office chair for an exercise ball, and I have a support belt coming tomorrow, so I hope by e time I actually get an appointment I will not have gotten too much worse with the SPD.

abcdemma Sun 01-Sep-13 19:38:13

I'm the same re. burning and peeing, sometimes it hurts and sometimes its ok. MW checked the other day and all clear... I think it is pregnancy joys sad
Crying your story made me chuckle, I'd have died of laughter/embarrassment lol
Surely any heavily PG woman in labour isn't going anywhere in a hurry Stom... I'd not give up on it till you speak to MW.
Prepared a nice beef stew in the slow cooker then realised we haven't got a knife block to cut the beef with... so it's a takeaway pizza for Sunday tea blush

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 19:42:54

abc those where my words exactly! lol
feeling utter pants right now, in so much pain i actually dont know what to do with myself. cant sit,stand or walk... getting so frustrated!

Alyssa1978 Sun 01-Sep-13 20:02:53

Thanks for the new thread lady

mrs I've just finished my anti biotics for my uti and it didnt burn when I peed at all, I had really bad lower back pain one night and a couple days before that I would be bursting for the loo and only a trickle would come out.

sooper my last 2 maternity tops were stripes cos there was nothing else there lol, I'm off to mothercare next week to look for something as I have a works conference so hopefully they'll have some non stripey ones in hmm

stom I may be wrong but I don't think not being quick will stop you from getting a water birth, as abc said no pregnant women in active labour is going anywhere fast.
I only know of baby doing a poo while still inside stops you from being in the pool once active labour starts. Definately talk to your mw.

LadyMedea Sun 01-Sep-13 20:09:08

Hey loki now I'm nt the only crazy person sat on an exercise ball at work. I've been on one since about8 weeks as my coccyx does not like me being pregnant. Sacroiliac now also starting to protest but only three mre weeks and I'm out of there. Can't wait to see the back of the place.

On the weird UTI sensation front I was convinced for ages I had one but nothing showed up. Now I've realised it's when twiglet is sat on my bladder makes it really uncomfortable to pee.

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 20:11:31

thanks Alyssa yeah im deffo going to ask, yeah i really hope for a water birth obviously there are other factors but it will really help my back,

if i could sleep in a hot bath i so would right now lol.

with regards to UTI. i have a bad lower back anyway, but the last few days its been excruciating, and i sometimes burt for the loo and barely anything comes out, do you think it may be a UTI? im seeing Mw on thursday, so maybe I should ask her to check?

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 20:12:37

oh and sooper there is some nice materinty stuff on newlooks website, just having a browse, as i need a new autumn/winter coat at i now cant do mine up lol

mumoftwoboysS Sun 01-Sep-13 20:17:46

Hello - new thread again!

Just back from a BBQ at mums and ate far too much ice cream!

Sorry to hear about all the aches and pains. I don't have pain when weeing but I do have varicose veins in the most awful places (think I mentioned it before) which makes going to the loo (no1 or no2's) and achey painful affair sad not much I can do but put up with it tho...

A friend of mine had a little girl yesterday (I was/am bursting with brooding at the news) and labour was only 1 1/2 hrs- not bad! She was given an emergency birth kit from the mw in case she ended up having a quick birth @ home- that's the first I've heard of something like that. Might ask my crap midwife if I should have one considering I didn't make it to hospital last time. She hasn't mentioned it yet.

MrsShrubs Sun 01-Sep-13 20:19:16

Thanks ladies, I'll see how I am the next few times I got the loo and see if it happens again or if it was a one off. The joys of pregnancy indeed smile

stom my friend was so tired she struggled to get her son out of the water pool after she'd given birth, plus I can't even get up off the sofa quickly and there's still 3months to go so you may be okay. Plus that's what our DPs are for, to pull us out right?!

sooper my mum and me had the exact same conversation, its crazy!!

mumoftwoboysS Sun 01-Sep-13 20:23:23

'Brooding'?? I mean broodiness! Bloody auto correct!

MsCatShoes Sun 01-Sep-13 20:42:45

I've found for generic stretchy jersey tunic tops and simple wrap dresses - typing in purpless' into amazon.co.uk here all priced about £8-15

They are smart enough for work but still comfy and breastfeeding-friendly for later on. I bought empire-line dresses in black, red and chocolate and tops in black and purple.

Got midwife tomorrow and 'things to ask' post-it is now three post-its long! Actually quite nervous as it's first day back at work after summer holidays then followed by MW sad

mumoftwoboysS Sun 01-Sep-13 21:12:11

actually thinknig about it it is a bit painful/sore to wee with varicose veins so maybe some of you have a few in your you know whats too! Don't worry they go away after the birth!

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 21:19:27

not sure how to word this... how long do leave it until you start to worry that you havent felt baby move? im 24 weeks and shes usualy very wiggley and kickin, but i havent felt her for at least 2-3 hours

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 21:22:03

maybe more than that, ive been i alot of pain so not sure if thats the reason x

abcdemma Sun 01-Sep-13 21:36:26

Stom try moving around or making a loud noise to wake baby up, or eating/drinking something. You may just be focussing on the pain and not be aware of baby's small movements...?

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 21:41:10

Yeah thats what i was thinking... Ill. Leave it abit and see how it goes. Going to watch a film. So when I'm relaxing she usually has a party lol. I've not been doing g much just sat in bed on laptop...

I'm juat worrying about every lil thing at the min. Thanks abc

MrsShrubs Sun 01-Sep-13 21:52:43

stom I'd give it 24 hours, midwife told me to have a really cold sugary drink so something like orange juice or something and lie on your left side, that can help stimulate movement. It may take a while for it to kick in though. I called the midwife after 2& half days but really that was too long as Id gotten myself freaked out but everything was fine, he had just gotten himself into a position where I could no longer feel him but the move my monitor showed me he was moving non stop. Or call them first thing tomorrow and see what they say.

Stom91 Sun 01-Sep-13 21:58:12

Yeah I've tried all that and walking... I'm sat here I usually I can feel a little niggle but I can't feel anything.. Starting to worry myself now.
Do u think it'll be ok to leave til tomorrow morning?
Sorry it's still all new to me

DaleyBump Sun 01-Sep-13 23:20:46

I would say give your MW a ring, Stom. No point sitting worrying! I'm sure everything's fine though smile I've been up twice for reduced fetal movement and they're really great and there have always been other mums-to-be up with the same worries smile

violetbean Mon 02-Sep-13 05:00:49

Hey Stom, like your bump pic! Hope you can feel baby again soon and that the pain dies down.

I have my placenta at the front so I can hardly feel movement at all, just a kick or butterflies low down once or twice every few hours and if I'm not concentrating it's easy to miss. Has anyone started recording baby movements - and is this even necessary?

Hand-holding to all with ailments, I'm struggling with the insomnia but otherwise ok at the mo. Thinking of you all!

hetsto Mon 02-Sep-13 09:47:06

Thanks for starting the new thread LadyMedea

Oh CryingGivesMeAHeadache, your service station tale made me chuckle so much! You poor thing; I expect you’ll be living that one down for a while yet. Hope the cold clears up quickly!

Roselau - Nutella is the best, I’m getting through about two jars a week at the moment. Naughty but so nice! I’m still eating like a complete pig, and the babies are definitely growing! A couple of us over on the twins thread were comparing notes and one lady said she’s got to a 66” waist at 34 weeks – eeek!

It’s funny – I was so happy that they put us down from weekly to fortnightly monitoring, but I actually really missed seeing them last week and the reassurance that brought. I’m looking forward to our appointment on Wednesday and hopefully getting to see them somersaulting again! smile

So sorry to hear from all those suffering this weekend – insomnia sounds particularly dreadful! I’m beat at the end of every day recently so can’t imagine not being able to sleep on top of that. Stom91, hope you’re feeling a bit better – sounds like you’ve been going from one thing to the next recently, so fingers crossed this will be a better week for you! Good bump pic too! Hope you’re feeling a bit better too MrsShrubs!

froubylou, it’s really nice to hear that you’re feeling well in your pregnancy, I have to say that by and large I am too! Now I’m getting used to being about a foot ‘deeper’ than previously, I’m even beginning to enjoy the way I look as well; like you, I’ve somehow been lucky enough to put the weight pretty much just on my stomach so far. smile

Soopermum1, I know what you mean about the stripey t-shirts! I really like stripes generally, but even I’m getting a bit sick of them in maternity wear. I’ve got about 5 maternity t-shirts and I think 4 of them are stripey. The horizontal stripes make the bump look even bigger too!

It’s really nice to hear a good news birth story mumoftwoboysS; I reckon I could handle an hour and a half! Has anyone tried this website? http://tellmeagoodbirthstory.com/ I’ve been searching for positive twin birth stories and used this site to get in touch with a few mums of twins who were happy to share their experiences. I think it’s a great idea, as there are so many horror stories and scaremongering around, so thought I’d pass it on.

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 10:28:07

Well i feel really sick this morning lol so I hope not a not yhe return of the morning sickness...

Going to waddle to town and get mum and birthday present today. Lol..
I didnt call me as I fell asleep. Though didn't sleep well.She jahasn't moved much yet so if it carries on I'll give her a call..

Sorry for being so moany.
Have a good day xxx

Hope little one starts moving around soon storm my little one has also been quiet this morning. Perhaps we just have sleepy babies? grin

I just got back from my 25 week (even though i'm only 24 weeks) MW appointment. Everything is fine apparently. Bump is bang on perfect so DP can shut up telling me i'm massive Found out I have to have that anti D injection next time. ugh more needles! Got my gestational diabetes test on the 20th too. Really hope I don't have that. I want to be able to eat icecream sad

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 10:52:02

I've got my 25 week check thurs. Not 25 weeks til sat though! Glad all went...
So when I was as weighed at the beginning i was 79kg Iwent on mums scales llast night and it's says 77! So while I'm on town I'm gong to boots to double check haha.. I don't feel I've lost weight with the amount of crap I've been using eating lol

And yeh my dp calls me massive so I hope mw says I'm bang on too haha

I've lost weight too. It doesn't make sense as i'm eating like a machine haha. I have been walking more I guess...I need to go to town today but I'm shattered and can't breathe through my nose so I am having a disney dvd day.

itsliz Mon 02-Sep-13 11:02:20

Morning, all!

Can't believe we're onto thread number 4 already! Just catching up on everyone's post as I was visiting family in Somerset over the weekend.

Spent all of Saturday on my feet as my friend had asked me to come down and photograph a small festival that he'd organised. Had a great time but my back and legs were killing me by the end of it all! Saw a lot of old friends at the festival as well, which was nice but exhausting what with answering hundreds of baby-related questions and standing around letting people admire my bump...!

Big hugs to everyone that's struggling at the moment - I think most of us are into or nearing the third trimester now, so at least the end is in sight! grin

I'm mostly feeling ok at the moment, just really achey and restless. Think that's down to being out of work though, as I really don't know what to do with myself... Trying very hard not to end up being the sort of unemployed person that watches Jeremy Kyle and stays in their PJs all day!

hetsto, that website sounds like a great idea, definitely going to check it out smile

Oh and sooper, I've had so many rants about that! Honestly, if someone gave me £1000 to spend on clothes then I could do it within seconds... but if you told me I had to spend it all on maternity clothes, I'd probably tell you to keep the money, haha! Since we're all feeling huge and generally rather unattractive during pregnancy, you'd have thought that maternity clothes would be pretty and flattering to make us feel a bit better but they seem to be the complete opposite! New Look are pretty good for maternity stuff though and I've managed to get a few tops and jumpers on eBay for no more than a fiver each... And they're not in yucky colours, they're not huge and frumpy and more importantly, they're not stripy! grin

Loving all the bump pics by the way, might have to join in and post one at some point!

NomDeClavier Mon 02-Sep-13 11:06:07

Place marking for later!

Re/: water birth mobility is an issue but in that you need to be able to climb in and out - clearly if you're mid contraction it's not really going to be instant moving but they'd expect you to be able to get in and put under your own steam IYSWIM.

I appear to have varicose veins on my fanjo. It's a very bizarre sensation! Either that or something's prolapsed!

MrsShrubs Mon 02-Sep-13 11:20:51

oh my god crying I am so jealous of your Disney dvd day, nothing more I would rather be doing right now instead of being at work!

Chilli81 Mon 02-Sep-13 12:23:57

hello all. Thanks lady for three new thread.
I'm still catching up with all the parts as been away in north Wales with no reception.
I'm also jealous of your Disney DVD day. I am on annual leave today as my childcare fell through but feeling exhausted and looking after a toddler with spd is a total nightmare. I am praying he had a nap today so I can go back to bed for a bit.
Also house is an absolute tip but physio says I'm not supposed to be vacuuming (not that I can be arsed right now anyway). I want a fairly godmother to clean my house.
bit worried about how I'm going to cope in December with two if I already feel so tired. aaargh. guess I should have though about that earlier!
hope all of you with UTI s are feeling a bit better. it's so uncomfortable!

Chilli81 Mon 02-Sep-13 12:24:31

posts not parts.

Alyssa1978 Mon 02-Sep-13 12:35:19

How's everything stom
Definately sounds like when I had my uti and I also couldn't feel bump moving at all ( don't know if its related) labour ward midwives checked bumps hb and everything was fine and he started moving again the next day.
You're not being moany at all, I was very protective first time around and I think everyone is, it's all new and I think we all wait so long to be pregnant the thought anythings wrong is terrifying. I was a bit more relaxed with ds2 and this one, don't get me wrong any bit of pain I'm not comfortable with and I will phone my midwife or labour ward as that's what they're there for and no way would I take a chance with bump.

Oh and a glass of cold milk always gets him bouncing around like mad lol.

Got a growth scan at 3.30pm today so fingers crossed everything ticking along nicely, hope everyone else is doing ok, I'll catch up on the last opulence of days posts tonight, in the meantime take care everyone xx

Alyssa1978 Mon 02-Sep-13 12:36:53

Couple of days not opulence hmm

hetsto Mon 02-Sep-13 13:01:20

Stom91, on the sickness – I was worried about that early last week, it lasted a few days and I was sick a couple of times each day, then died off towards the end of the week, so I decided it was probably some kind of bug. Then it returned today, so I wonder if it’s the shock of a Monday morning that’s upsetting me! I know that sounds silly, but sometimes getting up really early can make you feel a bit queasy, so I’m thinking perhaps my body-clock just gets too used to the weekend lie-ins. I’m going to try and tackle it by laying off breakfast until a bit later in the day I think. Did you have bad morning sickness in the first trimester? I seemed to be sick all the time to begin with, and this thankfully nothing like as bad as that!

Glad to hear all’s well at the 25 week appointment CryingGivesMeAHeadache. Best of luck for the scan Alyssa1978, I can’t wait for my scan on Wednesday!

froubylou Mon 02-Sep-13 13:01:58

Here you all are.

Stom have an ice cold drink and lay on your lwft side for a while. Usually gets them wiggly again. If you are still worried give your mw a call. Must admit towards the end of last week I didn't feel as much movement but I think baby seb has changed from horizontal to more vertical. Getting kicks and pokes low or high rather than in one side now and the sides of my tummy gone soft and my bump more pointy if that makes sense?

Indigestion driving me mad lol. Does anyone know if I have to see someone to get gaviscon on prescription orcould I jjust call and speak to mw?

Had a lovely but tiring weekend at a pony show. DDon a resreserve championship so over the moon with her and the pony. Lovely way to end the season with that pony. Got 1 more show with the other one on Sunday then we have done until next year. End of an era really as next year we'll have the baby with us and hopefully our own lorry too so will be very different going with dp and the dc instead of with us going with my friend.

Friend was a nightmare again on Sunday sigh. She didn't do very well and wanted to go home early but we had more classes booked in so she had to wait and sulked about it. If I had a quid for every minute I have waited for her over the years in some god forsaken cold, wet, windy field I'd be a wealthy woman lol.

Dd back to school tomorrow and feel sad about that too. Lots of endings and new beginnings coming up!

Roselau Mon 02-Sep-13 13:05:39

am loving the autocorrects hahaha! also catching up on posts from the weekend - thanks for the new thread smile

Spent the weekend stuffing my face with delicious food. I will miss eating whatever I want!

Had 25 week appointment with GP this am (I'm 24 wks 2 days). he had no idea that he was supposed to do it, and thought it was MW's job so we were both confused. But i was definitely told it was GP and the MW wrote it in my book. anyways, he's lovely really. Even if he was late for his next appt, he went to find a doppler so that I can hear baby girl's heart and I heard her loud and clear! it was so amazing. but he didn't measure fundal height. He didn't seem concerned. Said I gained 4kg since pre pg and I'm at 62kg, again he didn't seem too concerned. So I'm just rolling with it.

My next appointment is the week before I move to Los Angeles!! Going so fast! My hubby is leaving next week and I'm sad that we will be 4 weeks apart. But we just had to do it so that I can get my mat leave - it's a lot of money so really worth it.

25 work days to go (although I will be working part time for 6 weeks from the US, but i don't count that).

I hope all of you feel better very soon!

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 13:08:09

Hi all.. Yep tried the cold drink thing and laying on my left.. And sitting up as that's when she bounces.. Tried walking.. Having to come back from town early as I feel so terrible... You know that feeling u get when you've eaten too much and ur belly just hurts it's like that..
Still feel sick...
No i didn't have bad sickness just has really bad nausea but was never sick.

Think I'm Deffo going to give mw a call when I get in. Least I can stop worrying then.. Just hate to waste their time :/
Urgh fed up now lol x

MrsShrubs Mon 02-Sep-13 13:45:47

I wouldn't worry about feeling like you're wasting their time stom the midwife last week said to me that's there job and they would rather you be in every day (although I'm sure that's a slight exaggeration) if it put your mind at rest.

frouby I got mine last week through my doctors reception, I'd just finished my MW appointment and I said they couldn't prescribe it for me could the doctor do it, she just took my details and said they'd have it for me to pick up from the pharmacy (they're next door to each other) the following day once the dr signed off on it. Give yur reception a call and see if they can do similar without your doctor having to see you, it's only gaviscon so it should be fine. Just remember your maternity exemption card when you pick it up so you don't have to pay smile

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 13:55:55

I've phoned 4 midwifes as mine no longer practices the person takin over is on holiday and the others are not working yet. So will it be ok to ring labour ward?

mumoftwoboysS Mon 02-Sep-13 14:18:46

stom yes phone the hospital maternity ward and someone will be able to help you- do you have a few numbers on your notes? That's crap that you can't get hold of a mw. Mine is the same- never answers her phone and now she's left I have no idea what would happen if I called! Hope you talk to someone soon- if you're worried just be persistent and make sure they let you come in for a scan. I know I'd feel like I was making a fuss but you're not- after all they are there to help.

frouby I also didnt want the hassle of making a docs apt to get some Gaviscon so just called the docs reception and they got the doc to call me back, she did a prescription over the phone which I picked up a few hours later. Get the big bottle of Gaviscon advanced! I've started using mine now and think I'm going to need it more and more!...

Alyssa1978 Mon 02-Sep-13 14:21:20

Yeah definately give labour ward a ring stom

I have tried loads of heartburn remedies and the only one doing any good is gaviscon double strength mint flavour, I just bought it at boots as I was in agony and at work at the time.

Off to growth scan now.... 27 weeks today, love getting to 30 weeks then I can start counting down grin

Roselau Mon 02-Sep-13 14:37:40

stom i was given a phone number line with 24/7 midwife service from UCLH (my hospital). it's printed on the last page of my maternity notes. that's usually who i call when i have questions because my MW is useless. i called at 4AM the day I had food poisoning and they answered my questions.
did your hospital not provide something like that?

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 15:14:03

No they didn't. But called labour ward. Now in the hospital at the assessment unit... They're going to check alls ok xx

Roselau Mon 02-Sep-13 15:34:39

awesome! keep us posted and good luck with everything.

Hope everything is okay storm

Enjoy seeing your little jellybean alyssa

to everyone who is jealous of my disney DVD day, well it has had to be cut short. I got up to make a drink, dropped the glass on my foot and cut it. I then bent down to pick up broken glass, stood up and smacked my head cutting it open on the open cupboard door..then fell over and put my hand onto a giant shard of glass cutting that open. I am currently in a&e feeling very stupid and sorry for myself. I shouldn't be left on my own, i'm far too accident prone!

PistachioTruffle Mon 02-Sep-13 16:40:37

Oh Crying, you poor thing! Are you normally this accident prone or is pregnancy making it worse? I know I normally get really bad around the time my period is due. Hope you get seen quickly and aren't in too much pain.

Hope all is ok Stom flowers

I've spent my day off cleaning and organising, just had a short nap and now back to it. The house WILL sparkle by tonight!

yeah I am terribly accident prone usually however pregnancy isn't making it any less. I've had to have glue on my cut on my head and just bandaged up my hand. My dad has took me to mcdonalds and tescos to stock up on junk food because I feel horrible. I am going to stay in bed till DP gets home and feel sorry for myself I think. Everywhere bloody hurts. Turns out we didn't even have any squash anyway so I should have just got the bottle of water out of the fridge.
pistachio your name has made me crave pistachio nuts like crazy. I'm surrounded by chocolate and crisps and I want none of it! Enjoy your cleaning. Isn't it lovely when everything is clean and sparkly?

LadyMedea Mon 02-Sep-13 17:00:30

Argh I'm getting really fed up now. I was desperately trying to make it to mat leave with no more sick leave and I've failed. Had thurs &fri off with fever, bad tum and headache. Felt fairly crap over the weekend but thought I'd be ok to get to work. Got showered, dressed, breakfast, left house... Then had to make DH turn around and the me home as I felt too crap. Just totally exhausted beyond belief.

This job has been an 18month unmitigated disaster. I hate it, My health has been atrocious (CFS/ME suddenly worse) and then we decided to have a baby.... Despite hating the organisation I still hate even more that I don't feel I've been there enough and well enough to do a good enough job. Giant pants.

On the plus side, the new sofa is getting a lot of use and is really comfy.

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:14:29

Glad your all bandaged up crying

lady I feel the same. Really. Didnt want any more sick but I just can't do it so much pain and so exhausted.. Looks. Like. I'm. Going to be off until. Mat leave starts..

Baby is fine.. Strong heartbeat smile feel. Silly. For worrying now!

Came home to find a tax rebate from Mr taxman... Now do I pay a bill or do some shopping.. Hmm.. Lol.

Shopping ofcourse storm what a silly question

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:36:54

Of course! Lol need a new autunm/winter coat as mind doesn't do up now haha

itsliz Mon 02-Sep-13 17:47:02

Crying you really have to stop copying me, haha! grin Somehow I managed to slice my finger open whilst doing the washing up earlier, stuck my hand inside a glass and it just shattered on me!
Didn't bother going to A&E but luckily the giant hole in my finger has stopped pouring blood now so I'm just relaxing on the sofa feeling sorry for myself. Feel a lot better knowing I'm not the only one doing stupid things at the moment though! grin

itsliz Mon 02-Sep-13 17:48:47

Oh and Stom, needing a new winter coat is DEFINITELY a good enough reason to spend it all on shopping! wink

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:49:29

Itsliz... My dp done the exact same. Though he had a deep cut between his knuckles.. It needed stitches but he was being a man and wouldn't go to a and e lol.. So i wouldn't worry.. Hes not pg and still be clumsy... He did get out of finished the washing up though! I think it was a ploy! Lol

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 17:50:19

Haha yup. Shopping it is.. Haha. Its not. Much but enough to get me a new coat and something for dp.. Can't complain!!

Glad to hear everything is ok stom and hope you're ok too crying

i hope you have better news than me at your growth scan Alyssa, had mine this morning, baby is small approx 5th centile, and breech although they said that there is still plenty of time to turn in the next 12 weeks and as well as that apparently I now have a low lying placenta.

Got to go back in two weeks for a repeat and the doctor said that although by then baby could have turned, grown and my placenta moved up realistically I'm likely to have to be monitored every 2 weeks or so until baby comes.

Feeling very sorry for myself, have purchased a hypnobirthing book and was saving it until after today as I was so sure I would be referred back to the MLU. Made a cheesecake with my little girl yesterday, may well end up scoffing a lot tonight!

itsliz I only went to a&e because I rang my dad to come help me pick up the bits of glass and fix the cupboard door back on. He took one look at the amount of blood on me and decided we should go get checked out.

I am 100% craving chocolate and NONE of the chocolate I have in the house is making it any better. I attempted to make a chocolate milkshake and ended up in a sniveling mess on the floor because I couldn't reach the plug socket for the blender. I don't think my mood has been helped by it being September and the realisation that I am not going back to Uni this year has hit me. All my friends are excited to start their final year and i'm here sniffing baby grows and cleaning the bath at 4am because I can't sleep. It also doesn't help that everyone in my family is convinced I will never get my degree. Feels like nobody has any faith in me recently. I feel completely lost and alone today. sad

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 18:10:41

Oh no crying... As long as u have faith in yourself and believe that you will do it. Thats all you need! As long as your dp supports you his opinion is the only one that counts!!
In a few months we will all be holding a bundle of joys.

Sending lots of hugs x

DP is one of the ones saying he doesn't think I will go back. sad

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 18:19:46

:O what a douche bag!.. Well you will just have to prove him wrong... Tell him that he should be the one having faith in you when no one else is... Tell him how upset you are..
I really want to do a learn at home course. I'm fed up with having no qualifications.

Could you finish your degree from home? X

I probably could finish my degree at home, but it's my final year and so i'm doing a dissertation and other modules that I would prefer to take with the tutor I know. I mean it's not the end of the world if I don't get a degree, but the fact I don't get to graduate with my coursemates is getting me down. We are a close group and I miss them loads.

I've tried to tell DP how upset it makes me and he just says that there is nothing I can do about it now so there is no point crying. My DP is lovely most of the time, but sometimes just doesn't know what to say.

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 18:29:22

Yeah i know what you mean.. My dp is the Same.. And he can say the complete wrong thing without realising. And upset me.. Men eh...

Yeah of course u want to graduate with your course mates... But things happen for a reason and you will have a beautiful baby soon. Thats got to be worth a smile x

Yeah I guess I won't mind come December. I just need DP to get home from work and give me a cuddle I think. I've had a bad day and very little sleep so I feel rotten. I'll just sit on the sofa probably crying till he gets home though. I never cry usually, but my hormones must be awake today

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 18:49:08

Yeah in know that feel. I can usually bit my lip and hold back but nope not recently... Cried on the phone to my boss haha

Yeah make sure he gives u a big hug smile

I'm craving cheesy mash so it's steak with cheesy mash veg and gravy for tea haha smile

ooh that sounds yummy! i'm having jacket potato with cheese but I cant be bothered to put the oven on, so it wont be for a while yet haha

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 19:03:33

Haha trick u do is. Put it in microwave for 10 mins then out it in the oven for 20. Doesn't take so long and still comes out nice.. If it's only a small spud doesn't need as long etc smile

Hah yeh nearly done.. Backs killing now though :/ roll on bedtime haha x

our microwave blew up yesterday because somebody <glares at dp> left a spoon in the bowl when heating up his beans. I'm not particularly hungry anyway, just know I need dinner else I will be starving at 1am. I just need to stop crying and pull myself together. My user name is being a self fulfilling prophecy right now as I have a horrible headache thanks to cutting it open and crying.

I know back ache is the worst. I might just go to bed at 8pm. Can't see the day getting any better haha. Enjoy your dinner.

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 19:48:25

Awwh hun everything is better after sleep!

Dp failed to tell me he is going to be late so I've enjoyed mine (first meal I've enjoyed for ages) and he will have to re heat his! Lol

. He was disappointed though when I said it's steak and he's ruined it haha bless him.. I was trying to say sorry for being a moody mare (pain makes me a right cow lol)

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 19:49:03

Feeling rather fat now... Can't move lol

I hope I feel better tomorrow. DP is on his way home from work now so at least I will get a cuddle and we can watch some rubbish telly.

Glad you enjoyed your dinner though. Hope your DP's dinner isn't too ruined for him. Nothing worse than horrible steak!

Stom91 Mon 02-Sep-13 20:12:47

Cant beat a cuddle and rubbish tele.
Try and Cheer up hun. Your hormones are probably making everything feel worse too
Everything will be better in the morning. smile

Hes eating it now. Says it's nice lol

b0nker5Mum Mon 02-Sep-13 21:24:08

Hi all

Thanks for the shiny new thread...

This talk of Nutella and pistachios
makes me sad as I am not allowed to eat them as dp is allergic to nuts and there is a risk the baby will be as well!hmm

Haven't been around much lately as still working on the house... We have bedrooms now and kitchen on order for end of month, had the tiler in today who did the worst job in the world so am quite annoyed... I reckon my dog could have done better! What's worse is it's an old school friend so feel difficult complaining.. :-(

Hopefully should be able to move in at the end of the month/beginning of oct.

My work replacement started today so training her up for 2.5 months... Poor thing must have been soooo confused! Baby brain meant I kept going from one thing to the next!!

Hope all the injuries are healing... I still have the odd pins and needles feeling just below my boob, mainly when I sit down and had the worst BHs when we were away that dp nearly stopped the plane taking off as thought I was going into early labour in Scandinavia... Thankfully all ok now...

mumoftwoboysS Mon 02-Sep-13 21:51:36

Bloody indigestion/heartburn whatever it is- almost every bloody day now-grr!!! Thank god for Gaviscon...

mumoftwoboysS Mon 02-Sep-13 22:27:07

bonkers what does your BH feel like? I know I'm on no.3 and should know by now but feels different this time- been having really odd sensations on and off- like someone has pumped my bump up with a bicycle pump! Kind of painful but weird too. Last time just felt hard. Am pretty sure it's BH just didn't realise till a few days ago!..

MrsShrubs Mon 02-Sep-13 22:58:39

B0nkers I get that pins and needles under my boob too!! Only my left one and it really kicks in if I try to lie on my left side. So bizarre!

abcdemma Mon 02-Sep-13 23:07:12

Jees sounds like everyone is having a right hard time of it!
Glad everything's ok Stom
Watching Archibald kicking my phone which was on my stomach earlier, great fun smile As if it's September already though! Which means the month after next we'll have to have everything ready! A friend who's a week or so behind me has calculated that it's 100 days till her bambino is due which means it's like 93 days till mine.... how absurd!
Tucking into a roast dinner at 11pm so hoping I wont have to reach for the Gaviscon straight after...

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 07:51:07

Well that was a shite nights sleep. Heartburn and restless leg, DC1 got up twice and woke up with a really dry mouth, turns out I was also snoring like a freight train. How attractive. Oh well 15 weeks and 1 day to go!

b0nker5Mum Tue 03-Sep-13 07:54:13

Mumof, not sure how to describe them, like period pain cramps but they were coming very regularly and fairly painful, I have a high pain threshold hence the panicking... With my DD I just thought I had a spot of constipation and even the MWs said I wasn't in enough pain so I will probably be going home after the examination.. (I was 9 cms dilated and she arrived 20 mins later!)..

Mrs, my pins and needles seems worse in the eve after dinner and mainly sitting down so I usually end up in bed by 8 as its the only way to get comfy... We're only 2/3s through... Imagine what it'll be like in 2 months!!

And my bump is enormous... DD is worried that the clothes we have bought will all be too small as the helpful assistant in mothercare said that babies rarely come more that 7lbs so suggested getting tiny baby clothes rather than newborn.. (She was only 19 so not sure how qualified she was to know that in retrospect!!)..

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 08:17:18

bonkers I had that a week before dc1 was born- like a trial run labour so I'm not surprised you were worried, it's a bit early! Maybe your BH are just going to be more painful this time? Your labour sounds familiar! I was also v calm when on the phone to mw with Dc2 and they said to go have a bath etc. I got upstairs and realised I should be in hospital- but didnt make it! Next time we should both wail and shout down the phone despite how we're feeling- lol! They just assume you're not as far along as you are...

Well now many tiny baby clothes have you bought? It was true in my case that both DC's were far too small for newborn size for a few weeks but you could have a bigger baby! Perhaps 4-5 tiny size baby grows then next size up? Most people do end up putting their babies in oversized clothes initially! Also their arms and legs tend to still be curled up from being in the womb so the legs and arms always look too long!

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 08:18:21

That should be 'how many' not now many!

Alyssa1978 Tue 03-Sep-13 08:25:37

Thanks crying it was lovely seeing jellybean again and he's most definately a boy grin flashed his legs wide open lol. Baby is in the 65th centile for weight and weighs approximately 2llb 7oz right now (smack in the middle of range) so he should be around 7llb5oz ish like ds2. Future mil came and was so excited she never shut up the whole way there and back lol.
Still have to have another 2 growth scans at 32 and 36 weeks as consultant says its towards the end where growth can slow down but everything great so far smile

Oh no clare I hope you're doing ok and baby starts packing on the pounds, ds1 was in the low centiles and ended up being born at 37 weeks and he was 5llb 6oz so please try not to worry (easier said than done i know) it is very possible placenta will move up before due date. I've got my fingers crossed for you.

bonker did you buy the tiny baby baby clothes? I had to rush out and get them with ds1 but he didnt seem to be in them 2 minutes. Ds2 wouldn't have fit in them lol so glad I bought new born etc. women next door to mil just had her baby boy yesterday and he weighed 8llb 13oz shock I can't believe mothercare lady told you that lol.

Hope everyone else is doing ok and heartburn and aches and pains aren't being too much a pain in the arse.

Hugs to everyone flowers

b0nker5Mum Tue 03-Sep-13 08:48:09

We haven't bought that many clothes so I'm not that worried, we were given a load from DPs family in Finland which we had to smuggle back on the flight home! Well my lovely DD managed to squeeze it all into one of the 3 small suitcases and all our clothes into 2! Luckily they were not over the 10kg limit for hand luggage! (Well one was but DP sort of lent it against himself so it was 9.9k!)!

I was told to have a bath with DD but the only reason I went in was because I was sick... Luckily I did! Still have my heart set on a home birth though.. Hopefully we will be in the house by then or my parents may not be happyeeting their grandchild on the kitchen floor!!

hetsto Tue 03-Sep-13 09:16:49

Good morning everyone!

Wow, Roselau, can’t believe you’re off to LA soon – so exciting! I can see why you’d be a bit sad about your DH heading out there early, but sometimes needs must I guess. Are there plenty of people around to look after you once he’s in the States?

Glad to hear you got checked out Stom91, it’s always worth putting your mind at rest.

Aww, Crying, you poor thing! Hope all the wounds heal up nice and quickly – sounds like you need wrapping up in cotton wool for the next couple of months! Don’t let the uni stuff get you down too much, if you really want to go back, you will, regardless of what anyone else thinks, and if you decide it’s better not to, that will be fine as well. As others have said, either way, you’ll have a lovely little bundle of happiness soon and nothing else will matter quite as much as that.

Sorry to hear about your growth scan clare8allthepies, it sounds like there’s plenty of time for your baby to catch up though and turn as well. I know what you mean about the monitoring being annoying, but you do get used to it and the reassurance of seeing that all’s well is really nice. We were on weekly monitoring until recently and now we’re down to fortnightly I actually really miss seeing them… Looking forward to my scan tomorrow! smile Get eating that cheesecake!

I’ve been having what I’m pretty sure are BH for a while now, just a sudden tightening and hardness of my bump for a couple of minutes, not really uncomfortable but did take me aback a bit to start with. I probably have a few a day at the moment.

I’ve mainly been buying the ‘tiny’ and ‘up to 7lb’ clothes, but given the likelihood that our twins will be premature, I think that probably makes sense. I’m hoping that anything we’re given will be ‘newborn’ or ‘0-3 months’ so that we’ll be ok for after as well, but who knows?!

Congratulations on the growth scan Alyssa1978!

My theory on having a later breakfast to avoid early morning sickness didn’t quite work out – I ate a croissant and a banana on the tube and then promptly vomited into my hands and lap. Really gross and pretty horrible for everyone else in my carriage too, although they were all very sweet. I feel fine now but think I’ll lay off stuffing my face for a couple of hours... Oh dear!

MrsShrubs Tue 03-Sep-13 09:42:29

Oh no hetsto !! Hope you start to feel better, I resorted to having a plastic carrier with me everywhere as I was sick every day until 18 weeks for that very purpose. Glad people were nice though, I'm just about to start my London commute for today.

crying if you want to go back then that's all that matters, my friend was in the same situation, our uni were great and really supportive, she went back part time so it took 2 years rather than 1 and she's finished this year.

hetsto Tue 03-Sep-13 10:36:43

Thanks MrsShrubs, I was doing that too, until about 14 weeks, but I really thought I was over all that now. Maybe time to restock the plastic bags!

I think it’s just that there’s so little room in there now, I need to try to eat more slowly and smaller amounts at a time. I’m constantly hungry so find myself wolfing down meals and then puking them up again fairly quickly. I actually feel pretty much ok in myself (especially immediately after I’ve been sick) so I’m mainly worried about maintaining weight gain for the babies really…

morning all smile

oh poor you hesto I hope you start to feel better soon. lets hope it's not the return of ms!

my injuries hurt alot today sad didn't get much sleep as my head felt like it was going to explode. that and the gymnast in my belly was practising routines all frigging night.

hope you all have a lovely day. smile

Roselau Tue 03-Sep-13 12:58:38

hesto i really hope you feel better soon! sounds horrible. i was lucky to not get too much MS so just counting my blessings every day i feel good.

well i didnt have any meetings today so i decided to work from home. it's so hot in the office i feel unwell early in the afternoon so i figured i'd work from my couch which is much more comfy. but so far, it's 1pm and i've sent two emails. watched some stupid show on telly and ate the whole chocolate cupboard. i'm going to call it a mental health day. or a preggers day. whatever.

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 13:17:29

Hesto.. Hope your feeling better

Roselau: sounds good.. I'm feeling Christmasy.. I don't know why so I'm watching the holiday smile

Back is killing after washing up so I'm sat watching the holiday eating chocolate .. smile

Roselau Tue 03-Sep-13 13:19:10

stom that sounds like a good day too ;) i'm watching barefoot contessa marathon.

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 13:31:41

Its in the hope that December hurries up!
As iI'm getting fed up now!

I have my 25 week scan thurs. And because it's my first pg I gave one at 28 32 and 36 etc week.. So I'm hoping breaking into weeks like that will make it go slightly quicker? Lol.

Off to see a medium tonight (mum didn't want to go alone) not sure if u believe in all that stuff.. But who knows. see if anyone from 'the other side comes though lol

Ooh I am jealous of your christmas film storm I wish I got more scans. All I have is MW appointments until baby is born now. I wan't to see my baby again!

Roselau your day sounds lovely. I would just give up on work and chill out. Preferably eating rubbish food and watching rubbish tv grin

I am currently making a big batch of vegetable soup and baking some banana bread. Both one handed and hopping around the kitchen. I've had to put my cut hand in a sling because I keep using it to do stuff with and getting the bandage wet/causing it to bleed more.

On my own till around midnight tonight as DP is off out straight after work so making nice food to distract myself from the fact I won't speak to a real human until tomorrow as I'll probably be asleep when he gets home.

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 14:02:57

I know what you mean crying I want to see baby again! I'm worried she's not growing so hopefully mw will reassure me on Thursday smile

This will be the 3rd mw I've seen. Hopefully won't change anymore!
Baking sounds good! Just don't have anymore accidents lol x

I have seen a different midwife each time too. Apparently Mel who is my assigned midwife is always at home births. grin

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 14:38:16

I had someone called. Kayleigh. Because Jane my Mw was on holiday. Then I did see Jane but now Jane has left so now I have someone called Vicky lol.

I'm watching One Born Every Minute and the midwife on it in this episode is annoying the hell out of me. Her voice makes me want to smash my laptop screen.

Roselau Tue 03-Sep-13 14:43:30

i'm so confused with the system. i have only seen my midwife once in the whole process so far, at 16 weeks, and she was pretty useless. the second time i'm meant to see her is the 28 week appointment.
for 24 weeks they told me to see my gp, and i think it's the same for 32 weeks but i wont be here anymore.

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:00:49

oh thats strange! theyve not said anything about me seeing my gp for my checks,
i just got to a family clinic thing down the road.
we will see when i go on thursday. will you all be having the flu jab? and the coughing one? or have any of you had them before?

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:11:34

crying is that the one on really channel?

Nah i'm watching it on 4od because I can't find the tv remote haha.
Don't think i'll have the flu jab or the coughing one. I do have to have that anti D one though apparently. Ugh I hate needles!

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:20:01

ooh haha im watching one on really. but its old.. its weird watching it though, knowing that im going to go through that in a few months!!!

im not too bad with needles... the amount of blood tests ive had in the last few months i think if i had a phobia i would have gotten over it lol

I know. I think I am living in denial about labour. If I ignore the fact that it is already September and in 3 months time it will nearly be time to meet baby crying then I don't have to face up to the fact it will hurt Why can't I just go to sleep and then wake up with a baby? It would be much easier grin

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 15:40:35

hahah i think every woman wishes that! lol..
im trying to keep a calm and open mind about labour.
ill prob be awful on the day lol
i hope i go into labour when dp is about, i dont want to be on my own lol

it hurts my tummy to sneeze.. lol i think my muscles and ligaments are all stretching and then i sneeze and iim like owwww lol

DP is expecting me to walk to the hospital when i'm in labour. We live about a 15 minute walk away and he is convinced I will just be able to breeze merrily down there. I think he is living in a dream world haha!

abcdemma Tue 03-Sep-13 15:51:06

I'm booked in for the cough jab next week, thought may as well as it's safe and will protect bambino. Will probs have flu jab too for same reason.
Labour is becoming more and more of a reality isn't it? I'm not one of those who'll scream the house down when in pain but as it's the worst pain I'll have experienced it'll prob be a whole new ball game lol! I want a water birth too so it'll be gas & air all the way sad

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 15:54:07

I feel terrible. Kids just trashed the bathroom- water and stuff everywhere, whilst I was washing up thinking they were playing nicely. I just screamed blue murder at them I was so angry. Didnt have much effect- my 2 yo thought it was funny which made me even more mad. Then I spent some time crying thinking what a bad mum I am. I've never shouted like that at them but I was just so angry like a raging bull- maybe hormones?? God, I feel so bad now. I don't want my kids to think its ok to shout like that but when they do something like that I want them to know its not ok. Sigh....now I'm even worried baby has been affected by my insanely angry outburst. sad

mum don't worry. Everyone loses their rag at some point. your boys will soon get over being shouted at and perhaps they might think twice about being naughty if they saw how angry and upset it made their mum. I don't think your baby will have been affected so stop worrying about that. Have a cup of tea and a sit down.

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 16:06:24

mum boys will be boys, dont worry about shouting at them, and im sure baby is fine. like crying said, sit down and have a cup of tea.

is anyone elses hair falling out? mine is not loads but im finding bits everywhere sad

Green18 Tue 03-Sep-13 16:08:05

Its ok. It happens. When you've calmed down explain why you were cross though your 2 yr old is a bit young to understand. Family life!

Green18 Tue 03-Sep-13 16:09:36

I hope youre joking!

MrsShrubs Tue 03-Sep-13 17:24:43

mum the fact that you care and are feeling bad go to show you are a good mum, if you didn't care at all how you spoke to your children or how you treated them then maybe you could put yourself in the the bad mum category. Same as green I'd apologise for shouting and then explain why you were angry and what they did wrong.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 18:58:50

Thanks for the supportive posts! A cuppa a fair bit of chocolate and a scone helped!! And I took advice and explained/apologised. My 2 yo, when asked what he'd done wrong, didn't know so I guess that shows he's too young to understand it all. And hindsight and perspective are wonderful things- a wet bathroom really isn't the end of the world. And I'm going to have a third?? Yikes!! Lol! grin they certainly do test me at times and its so hard trying to do everything right and not shout etc.

Deya Tue 03-Sep-13 20:07:29

Hi girlies! I've decided that it's time to check in myself and my boy bump ( EDD 16th Dec). Have been lurking for a while wishing that you all would talk more and now I'm here ready to help with that! grin

Deya Tue 03-Sep-13 20:34:18

Crying I can't believe that taking in account your accident stats your DP doesn't mind letting you walk to the hospital. That is a birth story of the century waiting to happen! smile

Stom my hair is not falling out but I do wish some of it wouldn't grow! My head is covered in fluffy frizzy baby hair that sticks up between my normal hair. And the other day I found about an inch long blonde hair ( I'm brunette) growing right out of the centre of my cheek! Weird stuff.

Hello and welcome deya feel free to natter away grin

I'm watching GBBO and Paul Hollywood annoys me so much. I think it's hormone related because he never bothered me before.

"it's just cake, custard, fruit and cream" SHUT UP PAUL THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT A TRIFLE IS YOU FOOL.

he makes me want to throw things at the tv every time he opens his smug little mouth.


musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 20:46:57

Hi all, sorry for lack of personals but I've been gone too long and you're all so chatty! Sorry to hear about all injuries/worries, hope it's all starting to heal over. Roselau -can't believe you're moving to LA. So exciting! Stom, I hope you're feeling a bit more positive and glad to hear all well at your scan.
This week is my first week back full time so am pretty exhausted today, and also DH is working the next 3 nights which basically means I won't see him until Friday sad Used to love having the house to myself, now just feel a bit vunerable. Also doesn't feel very 'homey' at the moment due to all the building work.
Ah well, have to cheer up. Had clinic appointment today and all well, love my consultant and all the midwives at the hospital have been lovely. Just my community MW that I haven't really got on with. Has anyone else found they just feel like another irritating pregnant woman!?
Hi Deya, glad you've joined us! You're due a few days after me. Is this your first?
Lots of shuffling about from my bump which is nice. MatB form in, 8 weeks left at work!! unless house extension isn't finished in which case I might start sleeping in the office!

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 20:54:24

Crying, I've only just started watching it this series but yes he is quite irritating! Speaking of coming late to things- I've only just discovered Downton Abbey! Think I'll be requesting box sets for birthday this week in prep for mat leave/feeding sessions! smile

2Labradors Tue 03-Sep-13 21:05:09

Hi, just checking in on this new thread.

crying I hope your bumps and scrapes are healing, poor you.

Sorry to not reply to everyone but I hope you're all well. Hello to deya

I'm on countdown to work and think I'm getting a bit obsessed by it haha. It's 7 and a half weeks now. Days still sound too long. I can't wait to be out of there, I want to wash baby clothes and smell them blush

Deya Tue 03-Sep-13 21:18:02

Music yes, this will be my first baby with EDD on my birthday! Still can't figure out whether it is a good thing or not. I have a feeling he'll be a bit early anyway ( or maybe it's just me starting to wish the time away ).

And I know what you and Labradors mean by counting every day left in the office. Same here - 7 weeks, then two weeks holiday and mat.leave. Can't wait as I'm starting to feel my pregnancy quite painfully now. Actually got sick leave yesterday for the rest of the time I have left at work but haven't put it to use - my company are very nice to me and I would feel too guilty. Grin and bear it...

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 21:28:34

Yeah I've had a long sick leave during this pregnancy (surgery for ovarian cyst) and now find myself feeling like I should be working twice as hard to make up for it! My EDD is FRIDAY THE 13th! I know its common with first births, but hoping I won't be overdue- although she can't be too early or the house won't be finished!

Thanks labradors I have a spectacular bruise on my foot along with the inch deep cut which hurts quite alot and it's quite annoying to not be able to use my right hand (I am right handed) or lie on my right side in bed as that is where the cut is.

Deya Tue 03-Sep-13 21:39:37

Today I was sitting in the office and at times my eyes were popping out with rib pain ( hand goes into the bag for the sick note ). Then again I would feel better ( sick note stays in the bag ). lol
I feel guilty because unknown to anyone, including me, I was 2 weeks pregnant when I started in my current job. So I will be longer off on mat. leave than I have worked there!
Music are you doing up your house or is it a new place?

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 22:15:40

The main bit is we're extending the kitchen, but also have just finished bathroom. The hall/stairs and nursery also all need decorating! DH lived here when we met, so its 'our house' now and it needs some love! Am excited for when its finished, and meanwhile I'm glad I'm out of the house during the day! We've ordered our pram! (Can't remember if I mentioned that on last thread) Has anyone else chosen theirs? Gone for an Uppababy Vista in bright red (festive!)

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 22:18:06

Rib pain sounds horrible Deya I'm expecting it to kick in over the next few weeks.... Crying I hope you manage to get comfy, sounds like you've had a really bad run of luck. I'm focusing on NYE bubbly. BF or not, I'm having a little glass of fizz!

I just want to be comfy. Apparently that isn't on the agenda tonight so I wish I could just get really drunk and fall asleep. Can't do that either. Pregnancy is rubbish Knowing my luck I will be overdue so STILL wont be able to have a tipple on NYE and baby will be born in the new year.

We have our pram too music we got it for £50 from a car boot and it is brand new came with everything too, the cozytoes thing and rain hood and whatever else you get with a pram. It goes from lying down to sitting up so can be used for a while. Also in bright red as is the car seat grin

mumoftwoboysS Tue 03-Sep-13 22:51:35

Anyone watch the midwives tonight? Couldn't watch all of it (but is recorded)as DH came home and refused to watch it. That couple- not sure where they are from? They wanted everything natural which is great, but then he says 'we're not expecting there to be any pain' (during labour/birth) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! That's funny. Oh dear, how naive...

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:54:37

Welcome deya.

I've missed loads and too tired to catch up lol..

Came home and all I want was a hug from dp. I get a bad mood and him telling me I'm not all there and can't wait til I'm not pregnant anymore.. Thanks.

In so much pain and so effing (sorry) fed up now.

We got a 9 in 1 pram thing from a friend they paid £1000 we Brought it for £300 came with loads of extras so good deal. But bit annoyed as was having a play today and the wheels done turn.. So to turn u have to lift the front if you get me? Going to be a pain in the arse lol

Sorry for the huge moan x

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 22:55:29

Pram bargain! Sounds great. I didn't think I wanted red at first but as the nights get longer and winter comes along I think I'll be glad of something bright and cheerful! Although this winter will be like no other!
Watched 'Midwives' AND 'OBEM' this evening! V interesting, but maybe not the best idea to sit and watch it on my own.

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 23:08:00

Stom only just saw your post after I sent that one about Deya's pram. I'm sorry yours isn't turning properly. I assume its nothing simple like needing oiling or something tightening?
Have you spoken to someone about your pain, is it somewhere specific? Would you try painkillers?
Can't believe your DH was so grumpy sad try and ignore him, (I'm sure mine's felt like saying that a few times mind you), I hope you get an apology and/or a hug soon. Or have a hug from me. x

musiceverywhere Tue 03-Sep-13 23:09:42

mumoftwo I saw that, they were an interesting couple. I won't spoil it for you, but let me know when you've watched it all and what you thought!

Stom91 Tue 03-Sep-13 23:17:14

music it's ongoing pain I've had since I was 12.. .. But it's gotten worse because of pregnancy..
I'm taking pain killers but they aren't touching it sad

Dp says stuff like that all the time. :/ it's the 'your not all there' that hurts most

The pram is designed so the wheels don't turn.. I will double check. But going to be a pain.

MildredH Tue 03-Sep-13 23:48:25

I'm not sure I can watch that midwives prog.. Watched ep 1 in floods of tears..! Will almost certainly end up watching though!

Ooh yes yes to whoever said community midwife makes you feel like another irritating pregnant lady. I think mine doesn't love the fact I'm
a doctor and I feel she's fairly defensive. Just glad seeing as I won't be home birthing there's no chance she'll deliver me.

6 weeks tomo will be my last day at work. Time's flying by!

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 01:07:59

Welcome deya!

I need some advice. I was up in hospital yesterday for reduced fm as I'd only felt him twice the whole day. They scanned me and ran a trace and everything was fine, but it's been a while and he's still not started moving normally again. I'm really starting to worry about it. I know he's probably fine and they've checked me but all I can focus on is that he's not moving and he should be.

itsliz Wed 04-Sep-13 06:57:11

Welcome, Deya! Looks like your EDD falls on my birthday, too smile Don't know about you but I can see December getting even more expensive than usual what with my birthday, the little one's birthday, Christmas AND New Year! Very jealous of everyone that's cracking open the champagne this year as I'm due on 30th and have a feeling he'll end up being late!

Ohhh and don't forget to add yourself to our stats thread: http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a1803742-December-2013-Stats#41065303

music I'm loving the sound of your festive pram grin We got our travel system a couple of months ago on eBay - It's a Graco Symbio (with the car seat, carrycot and upright toddler seat) in black and 'moon grey' which is worth well over £500... We got ours for £160! I wanted a Bugaboo and DP wanted an Oyster, but this one is like a combination of the two!

Daley glad everything went ok at the hospital yesterday. I think we're all getting to the stage where everything is starting to worry us now that we've come so far! If you need any extra reassurance though, maybe try things like eating something sugary and sweet or having an ice cold drink or going for a brisk walk (I always find he's wriggling around loads when I finally get to sit down after walking around or being busy for a while!) Big hugs from me though, I'm sure everything will be fine smile

weechops Wed 04-Sep-13 07:13:59

Just checking in briefly before another manic day starts!
I've been rubbish at keeping up with posts recently.

Good news here is that dh is starting a job at home in 3 weeks so no more oil rigs and scary choppers woohoo!

In getting really bad pain in my hips at night. Having to constantly turn over to ease them so I'm not really getting a good sleep sad we have a new bed coming on the 20th so I'm hoping a new super comfy mattress might help a bit.! Poor dh might have a problem getting in though with all the pillows surrounding me these days smile

froubylou Wed 04-Sep-13 09:32:18

Morning all

Sorry to hear about everyone with aches and pains. Especially Crying. You poor love. I think you need wrapping in mummy style bandages for the rest of your pregnancy love! On a serious note are you getting enough rest and eating enough? I always get more clumsy when I'm tired.

Hello Deya!

I'm off for a nosey around that Mothercare outlet again today. I wasn't going to get a pram just yet but if you lot have started buying yours............?

And am tempted to nip into town too. We have a bric a brac market on a wednesday in the market and I know there is a baby stall on there with 'reconditioned' prams and stuff. They are all immacualtely clean and like new and start at about £60 for a 3 in 1 travel system. DP wanted a new one for him but I know I won't use it long before I want a Maclaren umbrella style. Am really tempted to forgo the travel system altogether and buy a nice maclaren that lays down so suitable from birth and a car seat seperate. So going for another look at prams today so I can hopefully decide.

But I won't be buying one today. Nope I won't. Definatly not <wanders off to check bank balance, just in case>

Have a fab day everyone!

I'm getting hardly any sleep frouby its a miracle if I get more than 3 hours a night sad hope you find a lovely pram though grin

I want to go look at baby things. it annoys me that PIL have already got us everything we need so I can't go and buy things. Saying that, now we're in September, I need a coat that fits. anyone got any recommendations?

MrsShrubs Wed 04-Sep-13 09:57:16

Morning lovely ladies!

weechops I had that pain in my hops so I went to mothercare and bought their version of a pregnancy pillow for £24.99 (there are other brands there for about £40 but i didnt want to pay that much!) and I'm now having the best nights sleep, apart from having to go the loo at 2am I sleep straight through now. Also great news on your OH's job!!

Welcome deya !!

We're ordering our pram next week, we're going to get the icandy peach2, we're thinking of getting the carrycot in silver but the main pram in black for a bit of a change. Plus gender neutral for in a few years when we think about baby number 2 and it converts to a two seater pram too.

daley I had the same and was checked out last Monday, it took him nearly 2 days after I was checked for me to feel him properly again and then he hasn't stopped since, they said he was moving from what the tests showed but he'd gotten himself into a position where he was either facing my back so wouldn't be able to feel him anywhere bear as much or squashed himself somewhere where he didn't have as much room to move. It is really scary though when you're used to feeling then quite a lot. They also told me some people still at this point haven't felt their baby move at all.

MW wise I haven't been allocated one specifically its whoever is the community MW available that day but so far all 3 I've seen have been really lovely so fingers crossed I don't end up with a dragon when I go into labour!

Feeling really good this morning, and managed to find a work appropriate summery outfit that doesn't make me feel frumpy too so huge pregnancy bonus in the office stakes today!! Very jealous of how little time left at work people have, I've got 11 weeks to go so only 3 weeks before he's due, but my works quite low maintenance and I'm really lucky that they're great to work for so it shouldn't be too bad!

mumoftwoboysS Wed 04-Sep-13 10:13:47

I'm going to get my dream genii pillow out of the loft today- starting to get sore hips too. Sorry to hear you're not sleeping well crying as for maternity coats- eBay is a good bet if you don't want to pay too much tho from what's remember bidding can be fierce as they're always in demand. I don't have one that fits me for winter- I used a non-maternity wool one that just had a belt I could tie round me last winter but was wearing it when I have birth to dc2 outside the hospital so it got ruined! Turns out amniotic fluid and vernix (that whitish coating on baby) doesn't come out in the wash!

A cheap alternative that I used last time was a knitted poncho. Sod whether or not its fashionable, layered up with a jumper it does the job if its not too cold!

Just tried to neaten up my lady garden with DH's trimmer- ended up looking bald and also cut myself- can't see a bloody thing anymore! Maybe I should look into waxing tho I don't know if I can bear the pain!...

mumoftwoboysS Wed 04-Sep-13 10:17:50

From ' what I' remember'. Meant to say...

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 10:19:23

crying new look website have some nice maternity coats!

I'm waking up hungry in the middle of the night.. What do u all eat?
I think I may need a pregnancy pillow. Worst night sleep ever! Baby was wriggling making me feel sick lol
But least u know she's happy smile

Ooh I shall check out the newlook website then. I have a lovely dress from newlook that I pretty much live in these days as it's so comfy. My Dad just popped round to check how i'm doing after my disastrous day earlier in the week and gave me £30 to treat myself with. Might use that to get a coat or a jumper.

I need to have a shower today as I've been managing with just flannel washes for a few days but I don't feel clean. I'm just not sure how to manage it with only one hand haha.

oh and storm I usually get up at 4am and have a bowl of cereal because I am so hungry grin

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 11:58:26

Yeah I've seen one on new look i like so I'm going tgo. Get that.

Awwh that was lovely of your dad smile send him my way haha
Lol nice.. I don't like milk so it would be dry cereal for me lol
Good luck with the shower lol.
Ive just had a bath. Takes all the energy out of me. was nice to though

Okay guys I am having a bit of a mental break down. I was meant to be going into my last year of uni in a few weeks. Obviously I have deferred for a year, however I signed a contract to live in a house with some friends. Seeing as I now don't live in the place where I went to uni I am not using the room. I have been trying desperately all summer to get someone to replace me but with no luck. It is now two weeks before freshers week so I doubt anyone will take it. I have just had a call from the landlord saying if I don't find someone to take the room by next week the case will be passed on to debt collectors. I don't have the money to pay for the room as we can barely pay for our rent in the flat we are in as it is. I'm sat here crying and I can't find a way to resolve this situation. I have no money. My overdraft is maxed out and I have no way of finding the money for the room.

MrsShrubs Wed 04-Sep-13 12:36:37

crying go and speak to your local citizens advice bureau or give them a call in the first instance, take the copy of the contract you signed and see if they can advise you on how to proceed,. They should be able to give you some numbers of people who can help legal aid wise to see if you are obliged to pay seen as your situation could be extenuating circumstances.

MrsShrubs Wed 04-Sep-13 12:37:51

PS I'd also contact your university and see if they have a list of people who are waiting or trying to find accomodation and see if they will post the room you were supposed to have on their intranet or accomodation section to help you try and fill the room

I've just come off the phone with the renting agency and I apparently have 3 options.

1. find someone to fill the room. It is 2 weeks before freshers week, so I very much doubt anyone will take it.

2. Pay the £1980 rent that I would have paid if I was using the room

3. Offer the landlord to pay to get out of the contract. Given the amount of rent I don't think he would accept a low offer and I'm not really sure this is a viable option.

I don't have 2 grand lying around and neither does DP, my parents or his parents.

Why does life have to be do fucking difficult.

froubylou Wed 04-Sep-13 13:24:21

Crying don't panic sweetie.

I run my own business dealing with landlords and tenant issues so can probably help you out!

Firstly have you explained to the landlord that you are pregnant and this is why you don't want the room? They get a lot of cock and bull stories so are a bit suspicous sometimes when someone can't take the room.

Secondly the tenancy agreement you signed should be on a joint and several liablilty which means that although each of you are renting a seperate room you are all laible for the others debt. So it is very difficult for a landlord to enforce the cost of 1 room against 1 tenant if it goes to court. Also the fact that the room may remain empty is not your problem its the landlords and a court would usually view that as part and parcel of owning and letting out property, especially in the student sector.

I presume that you aren't working at the moment and won't be for a good while once the baby comes along and will probaly return to uni. Whether you are planning on getting work or completing your course is irrelevant it's the fact that you have £0 income at this moment in time and for the forseeable future. It's only worth someone taking someone to court if they have something they can either sieze to sell AND they are confident on winning.

When did the Tenancy agreement stay it would start and when did you advise them you wouldn't need the room? If you have given a reasonable amount of notice before it should start it's the letting agent or landlord's job to fill the room in time for new term starting. Ask the agent what they have done to do this and ask to see copies of adverts etc.

Write to the landlord and the letting agent with an income and expenditure , a list of assets you may have, a copy of the letter or telephone conversation you had giving notice and state that you have taken legal advice on this matter and will not be paying any rent for the property nor will you be 'buying' yourself out of the contract. As a gesture of good will you will maybe pay £50 towards advertising the room again to try and secure a tenant. Or if you paid a deposit offer that as a one off good will payment.

If you want me to scan through any paperwork for you my work email is info@yorkshirelandlordservices.co.uk I'm the only one who will see that so don't worry about anyone else opening it. Put it to my attention (Jodie) and I'll have a squint for you. x

Oh thankyou Frouby

I only told the letting agent today that I wasn't coming back because I am pregnant. Nobody had asked me beforehand.

I don't know when I told them but I think It was in june some time. The tenancy says it starts September 1st so I am apparently already liable for rent. The agent told me it was up to me and my housemates to find someone, so i'm not sure they have done anything to advertise it.

I'm not working but i've applied for a temp call centre job and have an interview tomorrow, but I don't know if that counts against me?

I don't know who the landlord is as we have always contacted stoke property shop as they deal with people and not the landlord. I did pay a deposit but I was pretty sure I had lost that anyway due to not taking the room.

I don't have a copy of the contract, i'm not sure if any of my housemates in stoke have it, would be be best to ask them for a copy of it?

I mean they didn't know the reason before today, they knew I wasn't coming back in either may or june.

froubylou Wed 04-Sep-13 13:36:09

Oh and I was good and didn't buy a pram lol. Saw some lovely ones though and was tempted but I think DP should be with me if and when I buy one. Have been offered one by my sister (a silver cross travel system) but still haven't confirmed it or seen it yet so ought to have a look at that first.

Wanted a new one but if it saves money it saves money I suppose!

So spent £40 on bedding, some babygro's and vests instead lol. Got a pack of 'new baby' size of each, didn't realise they went up to 10lbs. When I bough DD stuff I'm sure the 0=3 months was about that size, probably just clever marketing to make sure we buy an obscene amount of clothes in 2 different sizes before they are 3 months old.

And I got a little outfit too that is very cute.

Really must stop going in that mothercare. Was only looking really!

And speaking of prams and travel systems when I had DD her carseat went in the car either on the base I had or by itself. You don't need a carseat base do you? Will probably end up buying one anyway as they are easier but I can't see me using the car much. And when I do it will probably be at weekends so will have DP to help. So it's just in case I don't get one straight away. Would rather save the money to be honest and get him a decent car seat in the next size up rather than spend a bomb on one that lasts a few months. Most of these car seats say up to 15 months but I think I had a new one for DD once she was about 8 months as she looked squished in the first sized one and I bought a new pram anyway.

NomDeClavier Wed 04-Sep-13 13:37:07

It's likely that there will be postgrads who are pitching up and don't have accommodation sorted, crying, so I wouldn't despair of finding someone.

Do you have a student advice an representation centre at your Uni? They might be able to help.

musiceverywhere Wed 04-Sep-13 13:38:13

Crying- of course that's what the agency would say! They won't suggest any course of action that would mean any hassle/loss for them. They'll leave it all to you. As per someone's previous post, try and get in touch with CAB and look in detail at the contract you signed. Get the room on a uni list. Can your friends not help with finding someone? (would think they won't want to end up with an oddball so have vested interest in getting a nice replacement!)
Sorry you're so stressed, there may be overseas students coming over soon who are planning on just finding accommodation when they arrive so maybe get ads in their society.

musiceverywhere Wed 04-Sep-13 13:44:44

Cross post with everyone! Ignore me, listen to Frouby, she sounds like she knows the deal! If you signed a contract, don't they legally have to give you a copy? If not, get friends to post/fax one (our local library does faxes) or they could scan and email if they've got access. Hope you get it sorted. x

NomDeClavier Wed 04-Sep-13 13:46:23

I would get a 0+/1 carseat like the britax 1st class. I ended up having to buy one anyway because DS was squished and had to stay RF. Do bear in mind they're talking about extending the amount of time babies need to RF for, so unless you desperately need an infant carrier style.

LadyMedea Wed 04-Sep-13 14:07:18

Whoah this thread is motoring ahead. I'm at home trying not to let my anxiety go through the roof. Tried to go back to work yesterday and DH had to come and rescue me as I felt so ill and wasn't well enough to drive myself. Assuming this is just the old chestnut of CFS/ME. Off to doctor tomorrow and don't know what to suggest... I'll know she'll go with what I suggest. Just didn't want my last few weeks at work to be like this.

A least a friend is popping over tonight and she always calms me down.

No major hip pain yet here but I'm sure twiglet is practicing for strictly in there. Very weird sensations.

Oh that couple on midwives made me chuckle. Pregnant as a raw food vegan... Oh dear!

musiceverywhere Wed 04-Sep-13 14:09:29

Nom what's RF?

Chilli81 Wed 04-Sep-13 14:19:50

Hello everyone. God this thread moves fast!
Can I join in with the sore hip moan. I really want to be one of those blooming everything-in-my stride pregnant women but instead I am a moany one with loads of back/hip/pelvis problems.
I've also found lying on my back for a bit the only way to relieve it for a while.
crying hope you manage to sort out your problem. Frouby's advice sounds like the way to go. I work in the legal sector and can confirm that whilst people often threaten legal action, they will only pursue it if you have assets worth going for.
I am jealous of all the shopping that's going on. We have pretty much everything we need form DS1 and as this is another DS I don't think I can justify buying clothes. I may well look at a winter coat though. New Look is always decent value so will start there.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 14:35:25

Hope you get sorted soon crying.
Lady sorry to hear your not feeing too good.
I feel like pants today and my bump is really painful.
All i can smell is iron

Just wana run away from it all at the mo.
DP said to me last night try and be strong I'm really trying. So hard when I have no friends... Not one person from work or even my 'friends' has checked in to see how I am.
Feeling so alone. And fed up.

I'm Deffo investing in a winter coat as it's always so cold and im never warm enough lol

storm where do you live? I'll come and see you and moan about being pregnant with you grin I know how it feels as I have no friends where I am either.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 14:46:56

Haha that's would be nice smile I live in Sussex lol
By the beach which is lovely but boring when you're on your own lol

oooh i'm jealous! I would love to live by the beach. It'll be great to take the baby for walks next year though smile

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 14:59:32

Thank you itsliz and MrsShrubs, he's changed position today (bloody breech and back to back) but because of that he's just not stopped moving and wriggling about smile even though his big head is killing my ribs, I'm just so happy he's back to normal smile

Crying that sounds really tough sad no advice but wishing you the best of luck flowers

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:01:50

yeah, my brother is excited to take baby for a stroll along the beach bless him. and i cant wait for lil picnics by the beach ect, will be so good.
just trying to focus on that.

i keep hinting at dp i want a weekend away.... last night.. well 3am when he couldn't sleep he randomly asked me if i wanted to go away... so maybe he/'s gotten the hint (he never wants to go away, he'd rather play golf with his mates all day)

i could never live in-land. I'd feel too trapped, i love living my the sea, though sand gives me a rash haha x

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:03:47

Also, if anyone fancies a look, here's the link to my photobucket with pictures of my 4D scan that we had about 3 weeks ago. Just had to share, even though I'm outing myself smile

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:04:56

Stom have you tried using talc to get wet sand off? It's fab!

Oh wow, they're such clear images daley Isn't it weird that it looks just like a little person? I am struggling to get my head around the fact it has fingernails and toenails.

hope you get to go away soon storm

also daley are those goats in that kitchen? I presume it is a screen shot from The Sims?

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:10:11

I know! We got a DVD too and he yawns and stretches and sticks his finger up his nose in it! grin just like his daddy wink

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:11:19

Aw god, yeah. Horses. I used to play The Sims all the time and there was a glitch grin

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:15:20

daley no i havent, i will try that haha
your pictures are amazing, its so surreal to think that we have lil humans inside us!


anyone seen this? made me cry with laughter, the poor lady!

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:21:12

Thank you! I can't quite comprehend it myself smile are you able to link? Can't click it on my phone :p

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:24:24

i dont know how you do it lol else i would ill have a try xx

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:24:51
DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:25:23

If you do [[ paste link ]] but without the spaces it should work smile

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:25:36

Thank you!

DaleyBump Wed 04-Sep-13 15:29:14

Oh god HAHAHAHAHAHA! That is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me grin

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:31:35

haha, i was literally crying with laughter.. made my day alot better!! lol

I couldn't breathe after reading that thread yesterday. The poor woman. I would never be able to go outside again.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:57:55

haha me neither lol

itsliz Wed 04-Sep-13 16:12:49

Oh I'm so glad everything's ok Daley! Huge sight of relief smile

I'm afraid I may have to join in with having a moan today...
My contract ended last week so I put in a claim for Jobseeker's Allowance and went for an interview this morning. Rushed into town for my 9.50am appointment, only to get there and find they don't open until 10am! Eventually went in and was told there's not much chance of me getting any benefits since I haven't contributed enough to National Insurance, what with being a student until June last year.

Went to the CAB afterwards to see if they could help me to sort out any other benefits, and basically just ended up being given a pile of leaflets to read and websites to look up.

So long story short, I'm 23 weeks pregnant with no job, no chance of getting a job due to lack of experience and being pregnant, no chance of claiming any benefits, a credit card bill that I can't pay off, an overdraft that is now accumulating nearly £200 of interest a month, not to mention rent and other bills to pay (and the urge to go out and buy loads of pretty baby things!) And poor DP doesn't earn enough to support the two of us, let alone three...

On top of all of this, the ancient crappy computer I'm having to use at the moment has crashed three times on me today and I managed to break the printer this morning. Ended up in tears on the phone to DP who has taken the afternoon off of work to help me sort out this whole sorry mess.

Anyway, rant over! Time for a cuppa I think...

Oh itsliz welcome to my world. It is hard enough being pregnant without all the added stress of not being able to get a job or benefits. The only benefits we get is a measly £33 a week towards rent and a whopping £1.53 off our council tax a month. The benefits system is all wrong. If it is going on NI contributions then surely the vast majority of people claiming job seekers shouldn't get any benefit at all? I better not start on this rant again, I've only just calmed down about my own situation.

I just had a call from one housemate who said that the letting agency are showing a girl the room this afternoon. If everyone could keep everything crossed for me I would be eternally grateful.

I've got a job interview tomorrow that I don't know if I want to go to. It's a call centre job and i'm petrified of talking on the phone. I don't even talk to DP on the phone unless I absolutely have to. I just don't know if going to the hassle of finding something suitable to wear that fits and walking to town is worth it.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 16:20:47

Oh itsliz I'm sorry to hear that.
I hope you can get something sorted.

The benefit system is crap. There so many people that are getting loads abd don't need them and there people like us that could really use the help...
Read the link it'll cheer you up smile

PistachioTruffle Wed 04-Sep-13 17:12:37

Crying, fingers crossed the girl wants the room! Sorry you're still having so much stress sad I hate talking on the phone too, though oddly I'm ok with it in a work environment. At home I'd rather text everyone even if it takes 3 x longer to explain!

Itsliz I'm sorry about your work situation too, it truly is a rubbish system if you fall through the gaps flowers

Stom, I read that the other day! Bless her, it was so funny the way she wrote it but that poor lady, it's like my worst nightmare come true!

Daley, BabyDaley is so CUTE! I'm going for a 3D scan in the next couple of weeks, I was given it as a gift but wasn't sure how I felt about it....I almost feel like its naughty peeking at presents early....but seeing yours I'm getting quite excited!

Sorry if I missed anyone, and welcome to Deya, this thread has zoomed today!

NomDeClavier Wed 04-Sep-13 17:39:30

RF is rear facing. ERF rextended rear facing. FF forward facing.

I spend a lot of time using these kind of acrronyms in work notes and memos and forget people don't always use the same!

Fingers crossed for the room, crying.

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 19:35:21

Thanks for the welcome and have added myself to the stats thread now.
One day at work and now here's lots to catch up with!

Like pregnancy difficulties wouldn't be enough, some of you are having it really tough on other fronts too..

Loving the 3D pictures Daley! I have some pictures from few weeks ago - it wasn't really a 3D scan, just had a chance for a little "preview" smile
He looked like a Gollum! grin

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 19:39:13

I think I'm off to watch the latest episode of the Midwifes on BBC, since you're telling me it's a good one! And my squeamish hubby is at work, which makes this time even more suitable for birthing TV!

MsCatShoes Wed 04-Sep-13 20:06:18

Hope she took the room crying and hi Deya

I'm sorry I'm coming in for a moan (as we all are), just feel quite upset.

I made three requests for work for my working with maternity and that was for a new chair, near a toilet and less stairs. None have been listened to - in fact I now have to move around at least three times a day usually involving at least two flights of stairs each time.

DH is outraged, apparently I should have had a risk assessment done? But his getting frustrated and cross is just getting me really really upset.

It doesn't help either that I said to a colleague that the phrase "but you'e going in eight weeks anyway" was making me feel quite stressed and now she's using it as a way to wind me up "just as a joke" and "I shouldn't take it so seriously".

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 20:22:02

Hi folks, I'm a newbie to mumsnet. Sorry if I'm jumping in but I've been enjoying reading the chat smile

MildredH Wed 04-Sep-13 20:28:32

Daley- your pics are incredible! We've been umming and ahhing over having a 3d scan- I think I'm sold now! I want to see this little person who's wriggling around in there!

So, I think I've got a haemorrhoid. confused V sad.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 20:35:26

Welcome mummyboy smile when are you due?

Oh no Mildred the joys of pregnancy sad
I really want a 3d scan but I don't have the funds sad

Ooh birthday on October maybe I could ask for it as a present? smile

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 20:39:03

Hi stom, I'm due December the 23rd smile always wanted children at Xmas x

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 20:39:38

When r u due? Is this ur first too?

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 20:41:10

Im due December 21st! Yea this is my first smile

I'm not too keen on an Xmas baby lol.
Hope your pregnancy is treating you nice! X

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 20:48:01

So far I have been really lucky and have no issues apart from being sore if I'm on my feet too long and the odd time he/she lies on my bladder and I can't pee!
Pregnancy is the strangest thing though!
How is your pregnancy treating you?

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 20:53:41

Awwh that's really good.

Awful actually can't wait for it to be over lol x

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:00:51

Oh no sad I wish I could offer pearls of wisdom on how to make it better sad December is hurtling toward us it will be over in no time x
Do u no wot sex ur little one will be?

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:05:50

Yeah not long autumn is on its way. I have my 25 week mw appointment tomorrow then I have one a 28 weeks and I think at 32 etc so hopefully that will break it up abit

If the scan was right we are having a girl! So
Happy. I always knew it was a girl.

We are nearly done with all the bits. Got everything second hand so haven't spend much. Just the last few bits to get smile
Do you know what your having? X

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:06:59

MsCat I do feel for you having to work in an unsupportive work environment! My work is very nice to me - so far I have a foot stool, new chair and a room to lie down if needed - and they all the time ask me if there is anything else I need. And even then I'm counting weeks left to work before maternity leave starts. Dunno how I would cope in your shoes...
Outbursts of your DH are nice though - it's just the way men care and protect smile
And if you can, try not to pay any attention to colleagues comments - she probably has not been pregnant so doesn't know better.

Hi Mummyboy!

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:10:52

Stom I have my 25 week appointment tomorrow too - we'll be able to compare the notes! smile I guess nothing special is going to happen though..

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:13:42

We shall indeed daley
The most exciting thing will be getting my matb1 form! smile
I'm going to ask about a water birth, and breast feeding. I know it's good for baby but it freaks me out lol x

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:16:43

Which one is the freaky one - breast feeding?
For me it would be the water birth that would freak me out! :D

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:20:26

R u O neg too stom? I've to get bloods done this week and then anti d at 28weeks and not sure what after that. I've had little contact with my m/w but I'm not sure I like her much anyway so it works well for me.
A wee girl! How fab! We went for the surprise option but I have my £ on a boy but I'm not bothered either way.
I've not go much. My friends have given me a few bits, Moses basket and a new born car seat but other than that I've nothing! I'm getting married at the end of the month so I've promised myself I'll get on it and get stuff after!

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:25:05

Aww congratulations smile

I'm A+ I actually didn't know until mw told me.
This will be my 3rd mw. They keep changing lol.

We don't have alot of money so we opted to buy everything second hand... I think that babies grow out of stuff quickly anyway so I don't see the point in wasting money... I got a lovely cotbed for only £40 it from John Lewis and was originally £200!

We were going to go for the surprise option but then the sonographer asked us a second time and we changed our minds! Lol
I was glad though as I was struggling to bond due to feeling so rubbish and wasn't sure if it was what I wanted etc so knowing has helped me bond with baby.
I'm really excited now smile

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:26:26

I'm looking into a water birth too. The only issue is the hospital that has a pool is 20mins away from the better equipped hospital if anything goes wrong!

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:30:46

Im quite lucky as the maternity unit is next door to the main hospital.. Though it's a half hour drive from my house which is going to be a killer when I'm in labour lol

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:35:04

Getting baby brain half way through wedding planning, I don't recommend! So glad I did a huge chunk of stuff before the woopsie but I wouldn't change it smile I'm with u in the second hand stuff. I try to get most stuff that way or if its new on a discount of some kind!
Finding maternity clothes has been a nightmare! How has everyone managed?

LadyMedea Wed 04-Sep-13 21:36:54

itsilz I'm confused about you not being eligible for JSA. You can normally sign on straight after finishing a degree so no idea why you wouldn't be eligible. Have you tried plugging in all your details into the official benefits advisor site? Might be easier than wading through leaflets.

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:38:03

Ebay! Lol got some nice stuff on there and the new look sales!

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:38:28

I'll be needing an anti-D injection too. I think the first one is at 28 weeks and then another one before giving birth?
I have had blood taken once only at the very beginning of pregnancy and there has been no mention that far of any other upcoming blood tests.. It's annoying that the system seems to be different for everyone as it gives no clue of what to expect ( apart from babies ) grin

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:43:51

Silly question what's anti D injection? .
My notes say that blood is taken at 28 weeks.
I've had loads of tests and re tests due to them losing my tests!! Surprised I've got any blood left lol

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:47:59

As far as I know you should get bloods done at around 24/25 weeks. I'm lucky I'm bringing up the rear where having babies is concerned most of my friends have done this and had the same m/w as me. I agree with you deya I found out I was pregnant and had to wait 4weeks to see anyone just glad I had support round me and a brain to gather my own info or it would have all been super terrifying!
So far I have found eBay the best place but my trouble is getting things to fit on the bottom half sad but its good to get it cheaply and then move on expensive business maternity wear!

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:49:07

Anti-D is related to your and your partners blood group. I have a negative one, my partner has a positive. So if baby inside me is positive, my body might attack and reject him as he is seen as something alien to me. So they give the injection to prevent that from happening.
Forever grateful to modern medicine!

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:50:26

Ooh never knew that im A+ but I don't know what my dpis. I ddon't even know if he knows!

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:50:56

Anti d is for people who r O neg blood type be lucky u don't have to worry x they lost ur tests! Jings no easy having faith in nhs!

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:53:28

Mummyboy try wrap-dresses from any label ( or e-bay) for cheaper alternative to maternity wear. I have a few and wear them to work all the time. I'll pair the ones with long sleeves with maternity tights and bring on the autumn! + no need to worry about bottom half looking mahoooosive! smile

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:55:37

Yeah at my booking in appointment I gave a urine sample went i went for my 16 week check they had lost it so had to do another... Then I had a blood test couple weeks ago as was feeling unwell and they lost that so had to have another,! Useless! Lol

Glad I don't have to have one I hate injections!!

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 21:55:38

They've never checked my partners blood but my cousins r both O neg and so were they're children who were tested straight after birth. They've also assured me there is nothing to worry about x

Deya Wed 04-Sep-13 21:57:19

Oh, yes - do not worry Stom - injections are only needed where mummy has negative blood group ( I have B - ).

Stom91 Wed 04-Sep-13 21:59:21

Ahh I see all good then lol... I can have blood taken doesny phase me but hate injections lol

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 22:05:53

I gave blood a few times so giving s wee bit more isnt bad but apparently this is a stingy one in the bum :0
Bottom half needs to be comfy I'm carrying low. I work in a pub too so need to be covered up x the less the blokes have to slaver over the better x

anti D injection is in my bum?! sad I don't want it now

Mummyboylan Wed 04-Sep-13 22:17:44

That's wot I've been told by others x but they might do it different depending on where u go x

MildredH Wed 04-Sep-13 22:48:28

My anti-D is next weds.. I'll let you know!

abcdemma Wed 04-Sep-13 22:49:09

Bloods are done at 28w, my next appointment will be when I'm 29w and new MW (very nice lady) said she needs to do more then, along with signing up to antenatal classes and a few other bits.
Lots of catching up to do but I'm like nearly everyone else and suffering with lower back pain sad It runs from where my muffin-tops would start (ok... do start) and along my left butt cheek, quite painful at times. I look like a right idiot walking round work like I've just got off a horse lol.
MrsC you need a risk assessment doing every month from the minute you tell your boss about your pregnancy. He's breaking the law by not doing one with you.
itsliz I was the same as you with benefits, told I hadn't contributed enough to claim JSA. You can try income support but when I enquired I was told you had to be 29w pg and/or a single parent or some rubbish, but it's worth finding out for yourself. You should be able to claim Mat Allowance soon though? Get your DP to claim Working Tax Credit too and see if you qualify for this Maternity Grant from the government.
Essay over lol, just sat watching tummy bouncing cause we've just had curry and bambino has woken up grin

itsliz Thu 05-Sep-13 07:11:58

Lady It's because I live with DP so they take his income into account, meaning I'm not eligible for income based JSA. I am eligible for contributions based JSA but although I was working full time for the last year, they calculate your allowance from whatever NI you paid during tax year April 2010 - April 2012 (which is zilch as I was a student then)
They've sent my application off so I'll find out if it's a definite yes or no in about 2 weeks, but the woman I spoke to yesterday said that its unlikely I'll get any JSA sad

And abcd that sounds about right, the whole system seems to be a load of rubbish and full of loopholes! I don't understand how anyone is able to claim benefits like this...!
I'll definitely look into the Maternity Allowance and Grant today though and ask DP to see about Working Tax Credits... I was just too fed up bother with trying to sort anything else out yesterday!

Hope everyone else is feeling a bit better today smile

hetsto Thu 05-Sep-13 10:11:41

Crikey, things move quickly around here! Here comes another long thread from me, trying to catch up - sorry if I miss anyone.

We had another scan and check-up yesterday and our girls are doing really well! So happy and relieved! smile Apparently the twins are not quite as big as they’d like right now, and growth apparently tends to slow down towards the end of a twin pregnancy, as they run out of room, so they want me to pack the lbs on now while I can. That led me onto discussing my recent sickness with them, as although I’m not feeling too bad generally, that can’t be helping with weight gain. They’ve given me some anti-sickness pills to take and recommended lots of v small meals as they think it’s probably just down to the pressure on my stomach, so fingers crossed that clears up soon!

We also discussed the birth and they’re happy to let me try for a natural birth provided things continue to go well and the babies both stay head down. Hopefully it’s a way off yet, but I was reassured to hear that they’re not going to immediately recommend a c-section.

Hope your scan goes well today Stom91! On the night time snacks, I’m going for cereal at the moment – quick and easy and fills a hole.

Welcome Deya! You’re due the day after my 40 week dd, although I’ll probably end up in the November club in reality… Please don’t make me leave this one though guys!

On the anti-D injection, I’ll be having that one too (just load me up, I say!?!) as I’m O rhesus negative. As long as you’re ok with needles I think it’s ok and a fairly straightforward thing for a potentially serious problem.

Is there a new series of OBEM on now/soon, are you guys watching the old ones? I’m not sure whether to tune in or not really, they usually do an episode on multiple births that’s very dramatic and scary… might give that a miss!

Hope you’re doing well DaleyBump, and your baby is wriggling around like a champ!

Hope you’re ok Crying, it all sounds very stressful, but I’m sure it will work itself out – the student market is so strong that they really shouldn’t struggle to find someone to fill the room.

Sorry to hear about the money woes itsliz, they really don’t make the system easy to navigate and sort through, do they?

Welcome Mummyboylan!

Oh dear, MildredH, I guess haemorrhoids are another perk of pregnancy eh?!

violetbean Thu 05-Sep-13 10:52:39

Watched The Midwives on catch-up yesterday and didn't stop crying through the whole thing! It's a bit different to OBEM but I quite liked it and especially that there are no adverts!

Sorry to hear about the JSA issues, I'm hoping to get maternity allowance from end of September so that will be a big help.

DH has to fill in his paternity leave form by tomorrow but we can't decide when to start it from as there's the interruption of Christmas and he still had some leave left to use up this year. Any of you in a similar situation?

Today is a shit day. My favourite dress looks shit on me now. I am 25 weeks today. I've uploaded a pic of my 25 week bump. Today is the first day I have sat crying because I have nothing to wear and hate myself when I look in the mirror. DP keeps telling me I look beautiful but he is wrong. I am a whale, a whale that has a fondness for mcdonalds big macs and eats them constantly. I call bullshit on the 'glow'. Sorry guys I am just having a moment here. Feel free to tell me I look fine and that i'm being stupid. I'm growing a person, so of course my belly is growing!

I'm going to go and cry about my ruined life and the fact I can never go outside again because nothing fits me

Carry on with your happy day guys grin

violetbean Thu 05-Sep-13 11:47:51

Crying, you don't look horrible at all, your bump looks lovely. I understand what you mean about the dress, I tried one of mine on the other day and it looked awful. Don't worry about the Big Macs, just focus on how nice it'll be to have baby in your arms in December.

Roselau Thu 05-Sep-13 12:32:36

Ok well that’s a LOT to catch up on! Welcome to those of you that have recently joined us.
crying and itsliz I’m really sorry to hear about the money issues. It must be so hard to deal with this on top of being pregnant. I really hope that everything gets figured out. It angers me when I read things like this, because I’m happy to pay high taxes if I know it goes to people who need it. But when I read this, I realize that it doesn’t necessarily. It makes you wonder what the hell they do with your money when they can’t help pregnant women have somewhat of a stress-free pregnancy. Glad frouby is able to help with the lease advice – the girl seems to know what she’s talking about smile
crying sometimes I just go through mini-crisis as well, and then the next day I wonder what the hell I was so depressed about. Take one day at the time. If today is shite, just acknowledge it, bitch and moan (it makes me feel better) and tomorrow will be better. But you do look beautiful. You look properly pregnant (I.e.: not like you’re eaten too many bigmacs smile ).
hetsto I know right, off to LA in less than 5 weeks! but soon left behind sans husband – he leaves next Wednesday. I actually don’t have family in the UK, nor in the US – my whole family is split between Canada and Brussels. I could very easily flip the shit right now but I’m weirdly very zen about it all. When we get to the US, we’re taken care of by hubby’s new company (corporate housing, support with the move and with medical system, etc), plus I still get full pay top up from my work for the first 16 weeks of mat leave and all my benefits from work in the UK remain active, so all this makes it much easier than if we were leaving in uncertain conditions. I also have friends visiting every weekend until I leave, and my mom is visiting for the last week. I have a pretty tense relationship with her, so that will be very interesting, with the hormones and all. Will need to take my own advice and take it one day at the time… Sleeping in my flat alone is the worst, so I’m minimizing that… only 10 nights I’ll be by myself I think.

Glad they gave you sick pills hesto, and so happy your girlies are doing well!

mummyboy good luck with the wedding planning! How exciting !!

Omg mildred hemeroids? I’ve never had those… that sounds awful. Is there something you can take?

Ok so I watched 16 and pregnant last night (you know, to make sure my IQ does not rise too much in pregnancy haha), and the girl had the worst stretch marks. My DH saw that and was like ‘eeeeeh will that be you? that’s horrible!’, but then quickly realized what he said and told me he’d think I’m beautiful even if that happens to me. But I just started freaking out. Right now I have a proper clean bump. I moisturize it every morning with my cowshed shea butter but SO worried to get those horrible stretch marks!! When do those usually happen to those of you that have gotten them in the past. Am I safe if I don’t have anything and I’m almost 25 weeks?

PS – cowshed girls, I’m going for a facial next weekend to the cowshed at shoreditch house with my girlfriends because they didn’t have availabilities in the other ones. Have you been? I’ve not been to that location.

Final comment – TURN THE HEAT OFF!! why has London decided that this year is the year where it should be abnormally hot in December? I keep getting dizzy at work so they brought me a fan. And I forget who it was, but YES your work should to a pregnancy assessment as soon as you tell them you’re preggers.

Roselau Thu 05-Sep-13 12:34:21

obviously i mean hot in september, not december... ha!

froubylou Thu 05-Sep-13 13:04:02

Afternoon all.

Crying have a duvet day. You will feel different tomorrow I bet.

Hope the tenancy issues get sorted. Any problems let me know and I'll try and help.

Rose not much you can do about stretch marks I don't think love. Has your mum got them? Think they are hereditary.

Baby seb had me worried yesterday the little bugger. Got to 5pm and realised I hadn't felt him move since early morning. Did all they recommend and after an hour on my left side still hadn't felt anything. Sat up to have some more cold water and got what I first thought was a bh. Put my hand on my tummy and could feel him turning around lol. He then proceeded to disco dance all night. He is obviously a bit of a jocker and had been sat all day where I couldn't feel him.

DP is going to be useless when I am in labour though. All I wanted to do was stay still and quiet to concentrate and he drove me bonkers lol. Kept chatting and wanting to stroke my head and tummy. Wonder if when it's time I can sneak him some gas and air to shut him up lol.

Got my gaviscon on prescription by ringing surgrty and leaving a message for mw that I needed some but it has easdd off now. Think he was squashing something and has moved.

Been fettling DD bedroom all morning and just stopped for a sandwich and lost all motivation now. Think a coffee is in order!

PistachioTruffle Thu 05-Sep-13 13:09:01

Rose, unfortunately as I understand it the likelihood of developing stretch marks is to do with the natural elasticity of your skin , so they could appear suddenly at any point - my friend had none until 39 weeks, then suddenly got a few under her bump (although it stayed at a few, and very subtle ones at that, the lucky thing). I'm still slathering the palmers on though, as my theory is that it can't hurt to try grin

Crying, your bump is lovely and you look perfectly pregnant, I don't see any evidence of Big Macs at all! Have you seen the movie version of what to expect when you're expecting? Your post reminded me of one the characters in it, it was funny at the time but now I know exactly how she felt!

Hetso, glad the babies are doing well! Keep growing little twins!

Sorry to this whom I'm torturing with my username grin perhaps I should change it to VeggiesAndSalad instead?!

MrsShrubs Thu 05-Sep-13 13:23:01

rose I'm quite prone to stretch marks as my teenage growth spurt taught me well and have a handful from pregnancy at the moment even with moisturising but I have to say as far as stretchmarks go they're not that bad (at the moment) compared to some peoples I've seen. I think all you can do is keep drinking water and moisturise to try and keep skin as supple as possible.

crying I have days when all I feel frumpy and gigantic and others when I feel really good about how I look, I'm with frouby and rose there are good days & bad days, and with the hormones flying round everywhere it's no wonder!

SO excited for Sunday, it's our 1 year wedding anniversary so we're going back to our wedding venue which is a hotel & spa and have booked in for a pregnancy massage, I'm literally counting down the hours until it happens! Thing is I only have bikini's as I went on holiday in early May when I wasn't really showing so will wear one in the pool at the spa, you don't think other people will mind bump hanging out in my bikini as I really don't want to pay for something new just for a couple of hours wear?

Chilli81 Thu 05-Sep-13 13:25:49

Rose I totally agree about the heat. I am baking. I used to love hot weather and now it just makes me sweaty and tired. Quite looking forward to cooler autumn days.

Is anybody else worried about having a newborn in December? I think probably December itself will be fine because of Xmas etc but then worried about January/Feb especially if it snows and managing with a newborn and toddler. My first DS was born in June so wasn't an issue. Maybe it's just a good excuse to buy one of those all in one fluffy bear suits with the ears for the little one. Any outfits with ears get my vote!

Hope everyone is ok

Hetsto good news about your girls.

*Crying - I cant see your photo on this computer but I'm sure you look great. I feel your pain re junk food. I had cold leftover pizza and a portion of chips for lunch. Healthy!

abcdemma Thu 05-Sep-13 13:56:15

Chilli I was thinking about snow etc and getting around with a pram. Plenty of people do it so I'm sure it's manageable but awkwardly. Definitely getting the fluffiest snowsuit I can find for him when we have to go walking about smile MIL wants to buy the travel system for us and I'm itching to go and try some out but she's saying there's plenty of time... sigh...
Hormones flying all over the place today as OH's Grandad passed away during the night so trying not to become a blubbering wreck in front of him. Just dropped him off at his Grandma's but she's in a bad way (so didn't think it was right for me to be there), so am sat at home devouring the chocolate cupboard... I'm with everyone else feeling guilty about the last of nutritious food I'm supplying bambino with blush

abcdemma Thu 05-Sep-13 13:59:33

Oops posted too early... meant to say glad the baby worries have been with the twins and lack of movement etc, and like hesto said students always need a place to stay so there should be no problem filling your place crying smile

abcdemma Thu 05-Sep-13 14:00:07

been sorted I meant, ffs lol

hetsto Thu 05-Sep-13 14:20:13

Thanks all for the good wishes!

Oh dear Crying! I’m with the others – a) you look great, and really don’t need to worry! b) everyone has ups and downs and I think with a bit of rest and a new day you’ll feel much better about things.

Good for you for being so calm Roselau, it probably means you’ve got your head ‘round it and are pretty sorted for the move! I’m sure it will be great and it must be quite reassuring to know that your DP’s company will sort lots of the admin out for you as well. Glad to hear you’ve got lots of company planned between now and then too. I’d love to move abroad one day! I haven’t been to the Shoreditch Cowshed I’m afraid, but let me know how it is.

I’ve just been looking into plans to visit some friends in New Zealand next year and discovered that BA won’t let 1 adult travel with 2 infants! This wouldn’t usually matter but my DP won’t be able to join us this time as he’ll be really busy with work at that point. I’m not sure how we’ll get ‘round this, but I’m learning to readjust my expectations to having two babies! Any ideas from well-travelled women on here?

No idea about stretchmarks I’m afraid – I’ve managed to avoid them so far and am using copious amounts of shea butter on my bod, but I reckon they’re going to be pretty much inevitable for me, by the end I’m afraid.

Sounds like you’ve got a little menace there froubylou! Glad to hear he’s moving lots again now though.

Congratulations on your anniversary MrsShrubs, sounds like you’ve got a lovely celebration planned! I wouldn’t worry at all about baring your bump in a bikini either, I’m sure you’ll look great! We went to Sicily back in June and I wore my bikini then, I was much smaller than I am now but still had a bit of a bump and no one seemed to mind.

Chilli81, I love the little snowsuits with ears! I’m quite looking forward to wrapping them up all snuggly to be honest and I’d have thought we’d be fine as long as they’re kept warm when going out and the heating is on indoors. I guess getting out and about could be more of an issue – maybe worth thinking about in terms of buggy choice…

Thanks guys. I just feel like a person who has been inflated. I'm sure tomorrow i'll be okay smile

We have a couple of the snowsuits with ears. One of them is a me to you bear one that we got given for free by a lady at the car boot because she was excited about it being christmas baby grin BabyCrying will look just like a little teddy bear in it. Cant wait to have snuggles with it grin

MrsShrubs Happy Anniversary, hope you have a lovely time. Don't worry about wearing a bikini, no one will care and if they do just sit on them grin

NomDeClavier Thu 05-Sep-13 14:56:22

hetsto I don't think there really is a way around it with tinies. Some airlines will let you book a seat and use a compatible carseat. Other possibility is a travelling nanny - I've flown to the US as an extra lap before, and it's the same as booking a seat for a carseat, plus you get the benefit of an extra pair of hands.

mrs I was in a bikini at 40 weeks with DS. Stuff what everyone else thinks!

Stretch marks.....the good news is the longer you avoid them the less bad they'll be. The bad news is they can appear even after you give birth (I know, wtf?!) so you're never truly 'safe'. I reckon you're either prone to them or not and there's precious little you can do.

I plan to get round the snow issue with a sling. Buggies and snow are far more lethal than a good secure sling with yaxtrax on your shoes. And by good, secure sling I don't mean a high street baby bjorn...

Sorry about your OH's grandad abc sad thinking of your family.

Wow rose! It's getting close (and exciting). At least you'll have a fair amount of time to adjust and find some friends before baby arrives. We're still waiting on news of DH's threatened transfer. I've said I'm not moving in December or January so if he goes then he's off without me!

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 15:06:27

Wow there loads to catch up on lol

Just had my 25 week check. I'm 24cm which is about right she said. Baby kept wiggling away from the dipper when she was trying to hear the heartbeat lol lil bugger...

She's referring me to a consultant due to my hypermobility and back problems and they also like hypermobility people to see a anaesthetist just incase I want a epidural.. Which I will be avoiding if i can.

On the heat front i cant stand it i usually love summer but right now winder can hurry up lol

Hope everyone is ok. Sorry your feeling rubbish crying. Hope your feeling better now. Xxx

Deya Thu 05-Sep-13 15:47:58

Glad to hear that all went well at your appointment Stom . Fingers crossed that a consultant can make your back pain more manageable.

I had my appointment too. Nearly died on my way there and back! Somebody turn off the heating please! Walk that would normally take some 30 min took 45 mins at least as I had to keep in shade, sit down on every bench on the way and I could only move my cankles forward very slowly. Now feeling so dizzy and tired, that I haven't gone back to work for today. Can't do it.
All this suffering for nothing really. Saw a different midwife once again and found out that at 25+3 my bump measures 26 cm.

Bring on the rain tomorrow!

hetsto Thu 05-Sep-13 16:27:46

The travelling nanny is a good idea Nom, thank you! I’ll have a look into it. I think it’s something to do with the number of oxygen masks in a row, so you’d need one baby to be in each row, and therefore one adult too.

Glad to hear your appointments were ok Deya and Stom! smile

NomDeClavier Thu 05-Sep-13 17:12:39

O2 masks are why if you have twins you find yourself in the aisle seats with random strangers in the middle who get annoyed by the bassinet! The rules about 1 adult per child are down to needing to hold the children on your lap for take off unless the airline has approved certain seats. When DS was tiny I used the Pebble (got that over the cabriofix because it's approved for flying) and we now use a CARES belt.

MrsShrubs Thu 05-Sep-13 17:26:37

Thanks guys - I shall bear my bump with pride...whilst remembering to avoid the jacuzzi grin

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 17:32:55

So i got my matb1 form today. Yay!
Mw said I need to also out in writing when j want to leave... But no have know clue how to start the letter...
Was just going to say something like. Due to medical conditions I would like to start my maternity leave on 5th October..
Think I may Google it. Or any suggestions I'm not very good at writing lol x

Roselau Thu 05-Sep-13 17:41:32

stom don't overthink it.

I would just put something like: I would like to inform you of my mat leave start date which will be 05.10.2013.

you don't need to give them explanation, it is your right to start your ML up to 11 weeks before your due date.

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 17:49:57

Ok thanks... I wrote on the form they gave me that I wanted to take it in November but because of all the problems with pain etc I'm just going to start it earlier...
It'll be ok to change it.?

MsCatShoes Thu 05-Sep-13 18:48:49

Any advice on approaching my impossible working day with management and my colleagues without p*ssing everyone off?

If I seek to swap rooms with colleagues to involve less travelling around - they will have just as a hellish time with the constant moving around and treat me with deep resentment which would actually be more unbearable than the aching legs.

I don't really want to play the legal card, but I have only had a meeting with the boss and no formal risk assessment has been done since April/May and my whole working day has been changed since then.

I don't think I can do this for next seven/eight weeks though - one room was 36 degrees today.

Sorry to be so negative - I promise to cheer up soon.

MrsShrubs Thu 05-Sep-13 19:19:10

stom you have to give them 28 days notice, so as long as you hand it in with 28days to go before 5 October, and as long as that date is 11weeks and under till your due date you are fine

mscat it depends what you actually want to do- do you want to do less moving around? Is it better for you & baby that way? If so sod your colleagues, plus they might not actually mind & may understand that since you're carrying an extra person around with you you need to be taking it easier than normal. Or is there a compromise? Don't suffer quietly, definitely speak to your manager and see if there's something that can be done

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 19:28:09

I'll be handing it in tomorrow. I'll be 24+6.. And I'll be exactly 29 weeks on the 5th October x

MsCatShoes Thu 05-Sep-13 19:37:12

MsShrubs I'm a teacher and currently in a different classroom each lesson which isn't too bad if they were all on the same corridor, near the loo but a lot of time they are three flights of stairs to get there and then to get back again. Couple that with lugging the equipment too, it's exhausting.

Think I'm whingy because it's been so hot today too. Thanks for listening.

One good thing has happened though - clean bill of health at the dentist!

13loki Thu 05-Sep-13 20:03:23

msCatShoes definately ask to swap rooms. I feel guilty now that I am the only person in the department who only teaches in 1 room and 1 lab, but my department have been lovely and even take all the equipment and books I need so I don't have to carry anything (except laptop, iPad, keys, cushion to sit on, and last minute (is there any other kind?) photocopying.

I've now asked for longer in between lessons - I have a 30 minute lunch in between 2 labs, it takes at least 10 minutes to clean and set up for the 2nd lab and the physio has told me to walk even slower and NEVER use the stairs (which with 1 lift in the building takes forever). I also got covered for a 75 minutes lesson so I could go to physio, and got back to school 5 minutes into the lesson but just hid in the staffroom rather than teach.

stom Could you be signed off sick rather than use your maternity leave? Your maternity leave would be triggered at 36 weeks, but you would save a lot of leave for after the baby.

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:21:28

yeah id like to do that, but when i spoke to the mw, she said if im off sick then ML automatically starts at 29 weeks?
cant being off sick will be less money than ML.

so it will be financially better if i go on ML, im not worried about going back to work earlier, as i would only get a weekend job due to not being able to afford childcare, so it would only be weekend that i wouldnt get much time with DD.
if that makes sense?
*Mscat8 i would definately ask to move rooms, you're pregnant, not them, im sure they will understand and if they dont then bugger them,, you and baby are more important, i learnt that the hard way after my boss had ago at me for being off sick xx

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:22:16

crying i want that snow suit! sounds so cute!!

NomDeClavier Thu 05-Sep-13 20:31:09

ML can only be triggered 4 weeks before you're due, and only if it's pregnancy related sickness.

Maternity Action do a great leaflet which explains the situation.

Stom91 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:32:40

thanks nom ill have a read x

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Welcome zoogeek flowers

13loki Fri 06-Sep-13 07:42:16

Stom if you are in the UK, your midwife is wrong. Pregnancy related illness will only trigger maternity leave at 36 weeks. I was off from 30 weeks with SPD with DD, and my maternity leave started at 36 weeks. The info is here https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave/leave

You'll get sick pay for weeks 29-35, then start maternity pay. So you get 6 weeks longer off with some pay.

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 08:06:52

Hi ladies, I could do with some perspective if anyone has a min. I'm sitting here crying not knowing what is the right thing to do. Our cat is ill. He's been I'll for months- his illness? Vet isn't sure but basically some sort of bowel disorder resulting in pretty vile explosive poos. Poor DH has had to clean most of this every morning (he tends to miss the litter tray) we keep him in at night to reduce fighting with other cats (hence having to use a litter tray). Vet bills so far have been in the hundreds despite insurance (bloody insurance company changed their policy and now we have to pay 20% of bills) the next step is to do an operation to get a biopsy- more bills to pay. This morning DH put the litter tray on a stool in the garage so cat wouldn't use it (we make him go outside during the day) he found it, crapped in it and some of it went all over the place (including wine bottles!) DH went mad, major argument ensued. He wants him put down. I think he's being an insensitive shit. I'm sat here blubbing my eyes out cos I love that cat but know we can't keep paying money out, have a baby on the way and can't be dealing with cat shit as well as baby shit AND I shouldn't be clearing it up and will now spend the next hour doing just that. He says most people would just accept the cat has to be put down but I don't know... Anyone with pets out there help with any sort of perspective/thoughts??

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 08:09:46

DH says I'm putting the cat before him and the kids!??! Am I?...

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 08:37:14

Hi mum. Please don't cry. I'm not too good at the reassurance thing. But we had a kitten once and he had something wrong with his bladder and he couldn't empty it so it was getting really full and the toxins were killing him... We took him the to vets abd they said they could do at op which would cost £4000 but the insurance wouldn't cover (not sure why think is because we hadn't had it long enough) anyway... We could either go ahead with the op but that meant that our kitten would have to be on a special diet all the time couldn't eat anything by acccident like grass or anything else he would become I'll.... We couldn't afford the op... And even with the op they said it may not work or could happen again. So we found the kindest thing would be to have him put down as he was so poorly.

It doesnt really help. But I guess you just have to do what is right for your situation.... You have a baby to think about too abd your health.. And the last thing you want to do is get into debt from all the bills.
If the best interest for your cat would be to put him down instead of putting through the pain of the op.

If im honest. I love my cat but if I had to choose between his health and my baby and money. I think in the interests of the cat being unwell and us not having the money I'd either outbid down. Or send him to a charity that will pay for the op and then look after him (we tried to do this but ko charity would pay for the op due to it may not work) but could be worth a try... You won't get to see him agaib but he won't be put down.

Sorry I'm not too good at this but please down cry xx

MildredH Fri 06-Sep-13 08:38:36

Mum- sorry you're having a stressful time. I have to admit I've never really had any pets so I just have no perspective on this. However the only advice I can give is not to make any decisions in a hurry, especially whilst you're feeling so upset. If its possible, let things settle a little and talk to your DH again then?

That's prob not hugely helpful .. In the short term, cup of tea, sit down.. Look after yourself.

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 08:38:49

Sorry for mistakes... Stupid predictive **

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 08:54:42

Thanks stom and Mildred. Well the thing is the operation would be just to take a bit of his gut and look at it but they may just confirm its bowel disease and the only treatment is more steroids (of which the current ones aren't Doug anything) special cat food for the rest of his life which is bloody expensive and more explosive runny poos....or it could be something worse meaning more treatment etc.

He managed to shit in a coffee machine we were going to sell on eBay- it's so disgusting!! I just wish DH could be more sensitive- he's not great about stuff like this and I'm an emotional wreck so we can't seem to talk rationally about it...

Thanks for the support. I might look into the cats protection league or RSPCA and see if there's any chance they'd take a sick cat?....

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 08:56:44

'Doing' bloody predictive text too!..

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 09:02:42

I'd give them a call and see what they say.
Also you don't want the baby getting near the poos especially when he/she starts crawling about.

But yeh defo look into seeing if a charity will take him. I think that will be better for you in the long run.
You don't need the worry or payin the vet bills and making sure he gets the right food and looking after a baby aswell... It would be different if your cat was healthy..

I hope I'm not sounding callous...
But I think if it was me I'd be putting baby first
And the money situation x

5ammy Fri 06-Sep-13 09:06:10


I work in aviation - you can't travel with two infants because they have to go on your knee and be secured - you cAn only safely secure one infant on your knee. The airline I work for will let you put a second infant in a car seat (forward facing, 5 pt harness) secured to the aircraft. I don't work for BA but suspect they will have a similar policy. Have a look at that as an option.


mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 09:18:45

DH has called and texted and apologised for being insensitive...now we need to make a decision :-( ...I just feel like because the cat isn't terminally ill or In pain that its our responsibility to look after him and we would be callous if we put him down...but we can't go on cleaning up that shit every day- especially like you say stom with a baby crawling around...

MrsShrubs Fri 06-Sep-13 09:22:07

mum completely understand your dilema, we had to put down my family cat of 15 years last weekend after he had a stroke, the vet said we could send him off for 2 weeks to an intensive care vets where they could syringe feed him and see if they could get any improvement out of him but they said the chances were slim that he'd recover and it would be very very expensive (after paying out a few hundred in bills for steroids and antivirals when they first thought it could be a severe inner ear infection) we could tell he was in a lot of distress, his weight had plummeted in 2 days, he wasn't really able to walk and it was just kinder in the end to let him go. We've all been so upset but I know it was what was best for him. Animals do become part of your family and it is so hard to think about putting them down when you don't want to let them go or for feeling guilty that you haven't done enough. I'd seek the best impartial advice from your vet on what his chances are. You're right you shouldn't be going anywhere near cat poo as it can be harmful to baby, I can understand your other half getting frustrated cleaning it all up - mine complains about changing the litter tray at the moment even though its only used at night time as our cats out in the day, so to be cleaning up a messy mess must be horrible. Sounds mean but can you contain your cat over night in the large cages you can have with a litter tray to try and keep it a bit more contained?

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 09:22:22

At least DH had apologised... Now have a cuppa & sit down & forget about it for a while.
I think a charity is a good option x

froubylou Fri 06-Sep-13 09:22:55

Mum if the operation is just to confirm a prognosis and course of treatment that you cannot afford and will also have a significant effect on his quality of life I would seriously consider pts.

I know it's difficult when it is a much loved pet but sometimes you have to consider the long term with them. I have ponies and a dog and have always said that if they get an illness or a disease that impacts on their quality of life then I would pts before they suffered.
If he has constant explosive poo and suspected bowel disease he probably isn't comfortable much of the time.An opoperation causes more pain and distress and it doesn't sound as though it will cure anything.

A charity is unlikely to take a sick animal. Too many healthy ones needing rehousing.

I know it's not what you want to hear but totally leaving the issue of poo and cost out of it plus the new baby coming I would have a consultation with your vet and ask them for a frank discussion about his future. Lots of small animal vets will now do a lot more investigations just because a lot of people have insurance. And my personal thoughts are that not all are necessary.

Maybe start the course of treatment the vet would prescribe if the op confirms what they suspect and see how he goes on. If his quality of life is improved then make a decision on whether you can afford the treatment long term.

MrsShrubs Fri 06-Sep-13 09:29:41

Was just trying to think of vet charities but PDSA and Bluecross only help I think if you're on some sort of benefit, although they may be able to point you in the right direction of someone who could help?

hetsto Fri 06-Sep-13 09:37:23

Welcome Zoogeek! Surely this is far from ruining Christmas – it’ll make it even better!

Thank you Nom and 5ammy, I think a flight nanny is probably the way we’ll have to go…

Ach, that sounds really tough MsCatShoes, I think you should definitely try to shift your day around or change rooms etc – they ought to be understanding and you have to put your health first ultimately. Perhaps you could get one of the kids to carry your stuff around for you?! Good luck!

mumoftwoboysS, sorry to hear about your cat – totally understandable that you’re upset and don’t want to just put him/her down! Our cat was ill a while back and kept being sick everywhere, it was a total pain to be honest but I wouldn’t dream of having him put down unless he was in so much pain that it had to be done or we really couldn’t afford to care for him properly. If that is the case, I’d recommend talking to the RSPCA as that’s exactly what they’re there for and they have lots of time for responsible pet-owners. They even have some schemes to help people afford vetinary care I think and if not can probably talk through some other options with you.

Whilst we’re on gross bodily functions – I’m still vomiting like a trooper at the moment; beginning to think it could be some sort of flu or stomach bug as it just isn’t clearing up and I’m starting to worry about keeping enough food down to grow these babies. The anti-sickness pills I was given on Wednesday haven’t make much difference yet but I’m not sure if I’m keeping them down. I’ve been sick twice so far today already, yuck!

MildredH Fri 06-Sep-13 09:46:36

Hetsto you poor thing. Can't imagine vomiting at this stage.. I'm sure I'm stating the obvious but if you're not keeping much down, esp fluids you may need to go to hosp..

Day off today- thank god I booked it as annual leave for a long weekend as the ward has been mental this week and had every last bit of my energy.. Had planned a swim then a wander round the shops/ nice sit down in Starbucks but really struggling to motivate myself for the swim although I suspect I'd feel quite nice & relaxed afterward..

28 weeks tomo- time seems to be flying past at the moment!

MrsShrubs Fri 06-Sep-13 10:03:22

hetsto this might sound really bizzare and it's obviously if you have the time to then retrieve it, but dampen a flannel and pop it in your freezer when you feel like you need to be sick take it out and put it on the back of your neck, the shock of the cold eases the need to be sick - one of the tricks I learnt while still throwing up until week 18! Doesn't work every single time, and sometimes you just won't have time to grab it but it does help!

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 10:03:37

frouby he has been on the treatment for suspected bowel disease for months now- strong steroids, and they haven't helped at all. You're Right I should have a discussion with the vet- these days like you say they always assume you're going to keep paying for everything but I get anxious every time he suggests a new treatment or op. a while back he skewered himself on a fence, punctured a lung etc and that op and treatment was expensive so this just adds to it. I would hate to put him down (feel like he trusts us and I'd be betraying him somehow) but its putting stress on family life... Not sure about a cage shrubs as would still have to clean up the mess. Could leave him out all the time so he goes outside to poo but that would just be ignoring his illness really., thanks so much for all your support/replies. Will book an apt with the vet- it's going to be very emotional...

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 10:06:11

hetsto enough about my problems- sorry to hear you're being sick sad how horrid for you. Hope it eases soon.

Alyssa1978 Fri 06-Sep-13 10:49:30

mum so sorry to hear about your situation, I've always had pets and only had to have my dog put down but he was very old and ill and having fits, he was like my baby and I grieved a lot afterwards.
I couldn't put my pet down unless he was in constant pain with no quality of life so I would probably try a charity or such. It must be a very hard decision for you and I feel for you greatly....huge hugs from me Hun.

hesto go to hospital or your midwife Hun, with ds1 I was sick all through pregnancy and when I went to hospital I had ketones in my blood which means I had to be admitted onto a drip to rehydrate me and I was starving as nothing was staying down, I had that morning sickness thing hyper something or other, sorry cant remember the name kate Middleton was admitted with it hope you feeling better soon.

zoogeek ds1 was born November 30th due December 19th and it made Xmas so much better and I dressed him in a my little pudding outfit it as a tiny baby one as he was 5llb 6oz born and he looked oh so cute with his Xmas pudding hat on lol.

Ds3 is due December 2nd and I can't wait for another Xmas baby smile

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 11:04:56

Thanks alyssa he probably is in pain (I have had IBS and know the pain of stomach cramps well) but I don't know if its reason enough to have him put down... I'm not sure a charity would take a sick cat either...

I had a Santa outfit someone gave me (a hand me down)I think it was 6-12 months and have photos of both my boys in it- so cute! Good idea actually- I haven't bought anything for baby yet but might by a cute warm furry reindeer one or something!

Hello everyone, I have just woken up after falling asleep at 8pm last night. I think I needed the rest!

mum sorry to hear about your cat. We have always had dogs and I couldn't imagine having to make the decision you're faced with. Animals are such a big part of the family it would break my heart.

Welsome zoogeek

Sorry you're still being sick hetsto a few weeks ago I had to be put on a drip because I couldn't keep anything down. It was horrible but thankfully it's passed now.

My bump is really sore today and I still feel down in the dumps about the way I look. It's freezing cold and rainy here today so I think I might have a day in my pyjamas watching films.

itsliz Fri 06-Sep-13 13:16:01

Welcome, zoogeek! Don't forget to add yourself to our stats thread as well smile

mum that sounds awful, sending you lots of big hugs! As an animal lover I'd be inclined to say do whatever you can to keep the cat and look after it as best you can, but then given the circumstances you really ought to do what's best for you and baby at the moment. Either way, it sounds like you need to sit down talk it all through with DH as it can't be good for baby if one or both of you are upset!
Also, regardless of what happens, I've been told that cat poo can be toxic to pregnant women so please please make sure your DH knows that and cleans it up, no matter how yucky it is!

All this talk of cute outfits is getting me so excited for December! Little bean will have just missed out on Christmas (which is a shame since I'm loving the sound of the pudding outfit!) but I did manage to get him the cutest Baby Gap beige fluffy bear pram suit for about £6 on eBay a little while ago! Soooo cute grin

Oh and I've finally got round to posting a bump pic on my profile, if anyone fancies having a good laugh at the state of my face and my new way too fluffy, way too short haircut...! grin

Deya Fri 06-Sep-13 15:02:06

mum I somewhat can relate to your situation as quite many years ago we had a cat that developed explosive runny poos, while later cat started to be in pain ( she shied away from being touched ) so we went along with tests and it turned out to be a bowel cancer. There was no way we could watch the cat suffer so she had to be put down...Seemed more human that way. But my decision was from knowing that I couldn't live a day knowing that my pet suffers. Other people would find it harder to cope with an idea that they put an end to their pets life. So go with how it feels right for you.

Deya Fri 06-Sep-13 15:06:54

And what a nonsense about ruining Christmas for our December babies - I am December baby myself and am telling you, there was no other season I anticipated most than winter ( like, who would do that?!) as I had my birthday, my twins birthday and Christmas to look forward to! I LOVED it! smile
And grown-ups were nice enough to give me separate presents for Dec 16th and Dec 24th. And 6 year olds don't know about "expensive" grin

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 15:27:57

I just devoured a whole tube of pringles without batting an eyelid.... I don't even like pringles that much... :S

Hope you are feeling better hetso .. Like the others said.. I'd get it checked...
Feeling really down in the dumps today... I actually was sleep last night til dp woke me up Moanin I was takin all the bed... I actually wasn't he just likes to sleep on the edge so he thinks he has no room...

Still feeling guilty about being off.. I just don't know what to do anymore.. So fed up.. And woke up with headache.. Was my own fault... I can't have anythinf with orange as it sets off a migraine... But I was craving a terry's chocolate orange.. So had some... But they have recently put real orange oil in and not artifical which I didn't realise.. Oops..
I'm boring you now haha..
Hope you are all well x

awh storm I hope you feel better soon. Which flavour pringles were they? The sour cream and onion or texas bbq are the best grin I feel crap today too. My legs feel like they're made of lead and I feel just a bit off. I can't pinpoint what is making me feel ill so I don't know how to make it better sad

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 15:50:24

Texas bbq... I actually don't really like them.. Haha pregnancy! Due feel really sick now though sad
Yeah i managed the house work today so now say watching tv...
Just feel so guilty for bing off sick and money etc but I juat duno what to do... I tried to talk to dp about it and about him sorting out his paternity leave... All i get is I've been at work all day I don't wana talk about it so I wait til the weekend and I get its the weekend I don't want a talk about it...
So i thought bugger him of he don't wana sort it out and have a couple weeks with me a dd that his own fault...
I'm fed up with doing everything for our baby.. I've had to sort out buy clothes and pram bed etc.. Hes not bothered.. I asked him to finish reading his baby book
And he says no.. But I won't him to to be abit prepared for labour and stuff as he thinks he's knows but in reality he actually hasn't got a clue. And that scares me..
Sorry for the moan again lol

violetbean Fri 06-Sep-13 16:01:17

Hey Stom, sorry you're feeling glum, great that you did some housework!

I am feeling so blue today, had a little crying spell, have done nothing all day except tidy the kitchen and eat and nap on the sofa. This cold has done my head in and I'm really hoping it's on its way out.

Bleurgh, can't wait for today to just be over so I can go back to bed and forget about it all. Hope others are feeling a bit better!

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:03:50

Oh no violet hope your cold goes soon! It's rubbish being Ill when pregnant.

Yeah just about used all my energy lol but I feel guilty asking dp to do at I'm off sick and he's out at work all day

Hope your feeling better soon!

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:09:30

Welcome Zoogeek smile

Sorry for all those feeling rubbish sad Crying, you look bloody fabulous. Chin up!

brew, cake and non-alcoholicwine for all of you flowers

Sending you huge hugs mum, we had to get our lovely dog put down last year after having her since I was 7. I'm still feeling the sadness now. It's so, so hard.

Thanks for the lovely compliments on my scan pictures smile

I've been kicked so hard in the ribs that one of them is cracked. It was weak anyway and I crack it periodically but OUCH. Never in my life have I felt so much respect for the woman on 16 Kids and Counting. How can she do that to herself?! I can't lie on my left or stand up properly... or breathe...grin

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:15:29

Ouch daley that sounds painful!!
No way I'm doing this 16 times lol.
Once is enough maybe again in a few years after I've recovered haha

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:18:42

Agreed grin

I can't believe that I'm 28 weeks tomorrow. Panic panic panic!

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:21:51

Im 25 wees tomorrow... I wish it would be quicker though.. It feel like it's years away haha. Honiley get my bday in October out the way and it'll fly by!

I want to meet my Lil one! I want a 3d scan but dp won't go for it says it's too expensive sad
Which is true cheapest I found it £100.

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:29:53

They are expensive :/ DP's dad paid for ours.

I know what you mean though, it really is DRAAAAAGING. I finally got a bump picture up but the only one I had on the computer was me in my onesie so please pardon the outfit grin

Roselau Fri 06-Sep-13 16:29:58

I'm 25 wk tomorrow. I feel relatively good although almost fainted a couple of times today and feel like my tummy is about to explode. not of pain, just so uncomfortable especially after I eat. but i can tolerate it all i'm not complaining.

The thing that I just can't believe is that there are another 15 weeks ahead of me and it's just going to get worse and worse and worse and worse. I already miss lying down on my belly because it's usually the only thing that can ease my upset stomach. baby girl woke me at 5am dancing a nice little jig in there. I have no idea how she manages, but she was kicking at the same time my stomach and my touchka - probably extending both legs and arms? It's annoying because I can't sleep but I must say I love feeling her having a good time in there ;)

16 kids lady is completely cray cray. oh. my. god.

Looks like it's been a tough day for a lot of us out there - I wonder if the sudden change of weather has affected us this way (both emotionally and physically). I think I'm going to leave the office at 5 today. not as if I'm being productive or anything.

I hope everyone starts feeling a bit better. sending you all positive vibes and wishing you an amazing weekend xoxox

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:30:35

I'll put a better one up later on grin

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:32:16

X post, sorry Rose!

Is it constipation or indigestion or something? I got Peptac liquid stuff from my GP and it's a lifesaver for indigestion. Sorry you're feeling rubbish!

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:33:53

I love your bump daley!

I know what u mean with the partying at 5am lol.. She loves to kick my stomach and it makes me feel so sick lol but it's good to know she's happy! Xx

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:36:20

Aw thanks Stom smile it looks much better in other clothes grin loving yours too!

I was just wondering, when I was on the November thread they had a private Facebook group. Is that something you guys would want to do or is it a terrible idea?

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 16:36:45

Like, for bump pictures and such.

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:39:56

I think its an awesome idea smile

itsliz Fri 06-Sep-13 16:40:17

Loving the onesie Daley! I feel like my pic needs to be a lot more colourful now sad

Little man seems to like kicking me in the middle of the night too! I was told the other day that their sleeping pattern in the womb ends up being fairly similar after they're born... Not sure how true that is but I hope that doesn't mean that in going to end up having a little night owl!

Roselau Fri 06-Sep-13 16:42:12

daley cute bump. smile

Nah I don't think it's indigestion or constipation, more that I need to get used to the pressure on my stomach. I think it's reducing the volume available for food and I love to stuff myself silly... I have no sense of self control lately. I thank god for my good metabolism because I've not gained excessive amounts of weight and still fit in my regular jeans (albeit with a belly band because I obviously can't zip them up).

your bump is awesome daley I really want a onesie but DP won't let me have one because he says they are silly. He is a big fat meanie face.

On the plus side I have made a chicken casserole and garlic mashed potato for dinner and I made a lemon and lime cheesecake for pudding. I think the horrible weather made me crave mash and gravy!

Ooh storm my birthday is october 27th. People born in october are the best grin

I usually love it when it's crappy weather and I can wear jumpers and snuggly socks but I cant wear socks on my feet recently. It makes them feel really claustrophobic confused and my fluffy jumper doesn't fit.

roselau I feel like that when I've eaten. even if it's just a tiny amount. It's so annoying. Hope you feel better soon.

Roselau Fri 06-Sep-13 16:43:43

itsliz I heard that they usually tend to wake-up when you're lying down / sleeping because the daily activity rocks them to sleep.

This baby is NOT going to be a night owl. I refuse. mama needs her sleep.

haha! I just noticed your little message when you hover over your username daley that gave me a little giggle. How on earth do you do that?!

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 16:47:13

Crying your dinner sounds amazing save me some lol.

Mines October 19th
I was juat thinking earlier I need an excuse to snuggle under the duvet with a hot water bottle but it's still not cold enough yet lol. Roll on winter. I'm very much an autumn/winter baby..

Though I hate Feb. Feb is just too cold! Lol

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 17:00:43

Aw thanks everyone! You all have such lovely bumps!

Crying, my onesie is an absolute life saver right now. It's the only thing I can wear to bed because it zips up over my bump without putting pressure on it, and it'll be awesome for breastfeeding in the middle of the night smile to do the messagey thing you go onto "My Mumsnet" then "my profile" and there's an option for it smile now I'm away to make cheesy garlic mash because you've bloody well put me in the mood for it <grumble>

Let me know what you all think about setting up a private FB group, I'm happy to organise if you're all up for it.

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 17:02:01

Also, just wanted to say, if any of you are worried about kick counting (I'm a total worrier) the kick counter bracelets from Count the Kicks are really awesome. They've totally stopped me worrying smile

well DP has just informed me he is "popping for one drink with his work mate" so he won't be home until around 1am and will therefor miss out on my lovely dinner, so help yourself storm grin

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:04:51

I have no bubble bath... What could I use to make bubbles!?

I've cooked and washed up all week. When it gets to Friday I can't be arsed to cook :/lazy as I'm not working i know.. Maybe is cos I'm in a rubbish mood

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:05:18

Yes!! Haha thank you smile

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:06:10

Is your dp very much a 'I'll be home in 10 mins'... 2 hours later he's still not home.. Kinda guy? Lol
Mine is haa

Oh yes he is. the other week he told me he was walking home from town. Even at my slow waddle this takes a maximum of 20 minutes. 3 hours later he turns up and is confused as to why I am annoyed with him haha.

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:09:28

Haha men eh!

itsliz Fri 06-Sep-13 17:15:11

Hmmm, how about washing up liquid as a quick substitute for bubble bath?! Can't guarantee you don't come out smelling like freshly washed dishes though...! grin

And I'm up for a December Facebook group if everyone else is!

enjoy your mash daley mine would have had cheese in it but I ate it all yesterday grin

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:31:37

Hmm yeah haha will body was work? Lol. I'll give it a whirl haha

Does anyone Watch come dine with me? Some of these dishes look rank haha

I love come dine with me. I was watching it today but the tivo box got annoyed and changed the channel as it wanted to record something so I couldn't watch it all.

Bodywash might work, might not get looooads of bubbles but least you will smell nicer. IF you use fairy liquid you will be all soft. "Hands that do dishes can feel as soft as your face" grin

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 17:43:00

Haha :D

I watch one the other day and she gave them squirrel and they were all throwing up in her garden lol :S

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 18:03:32

crying impressed you've made pudding! I never seem to manage it (my poor kids have a choice of yogurt or custard!) I'd love a pudding right now....

My baby has a party in there when I lay down to sleep- must have been an hour of it last night (which was lovely but prevented me falling asleep) then restless leg, then woke @ 1am with cramp in my leg-DH mumbled sleepily that he thought I was in labour from my swearing! Then baby woke again!....

Nights like that make me want to swipe at anyone who says 'make the most your sleep before the baby comes' would if I bloody could! hmm

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 18:05:09

Squirrel??! Gross! I used to watch it a fair bit but not for a while now. Always amusing!

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 18:09:35

Okay, I tried to create a group on Facebook but I need one of you on my friends list first so I can add you in. Apparently I can't be in a group myself and I think the rest of my friends list would be a little perplexed at being invited to a group called "December 2013" grin any takers? I'm lovely really wink

I only made it because I needed to distract myself from feeling so crappy. You're welcome to a slice mum DP doesn't like cheesecake so I have a whole one to myself grin

I think I have overdosed on mash. Sitting here in my pyjamas slipping nicely into a food coma. My casserole and mash was perfect, even if I do say so myself haha.

Oh god yeah people who say I should get loads of sleep before baby comes need a smack in the face. I am trying my best but baby doesn't want to sleep!

I'll give it a whirl daley

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 18:14:08

Cheers Crying! I'll PM you smile

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 18:18:36

That's it up and running smile it's a secret group so nobody who isn't in the group can see who's in it and what's been posted smile send me a message if you would like to join smile

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 18:25:18

Just had a bath and used my honey and milk shower lotion as bubble bath.. I now smell lovely!

And the sleeping thing.. I actually think I'll get more sleep when dd is here... I said that to someone and they looked at me like yeah right.. But I actually think i will.... Ill be in less pain with back and joint and i wont have a baby wiggling inside of me lol
So I'll sleep better lol

I thought we couldn't eat cheesecake because it's made with soft cheese :O
Will be amazing if i can I'm really craving chocolate cheesecake haha

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 18:27:18

DaleyBump I think I messaged you lol I'm not sure

mumoftwoboysS Fri 06-Sep-13 18:30:58

Soft/cream cheese variety is fine stom so dig in! It's just the unpasteurised type we can't have like Camembert and Brie (unless baked/piping hot)

crying I had casserole and mash too- yum- ultimate comfort food!

DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 18:35:45

Done Stom smile

MrsShrubs Fri 06-Sep-13 19:15:28

I'm freeeeeee!! A weeks annual leave to look forward to sorting out baby bits. Never been so relieved to finish work, been 4 months since I've had any time off!! smile

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:33:27

Yay MrsShrubs enjoy!

MrsShrubs Fri 06-Sep-13 19:47:15


DaleyBump Fri 06-Sep-13 19:48:22

Fantastic MrsShrubs!

hurrah! freedom is wonderful mrsshrubs grin dont go too wild.

Stom91 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:07:00

DP has got the footy on... How boring!