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September 2013- Annoying "Any news?" texts, maternity leave and BABIES!(792 Posts)
Looks like we need another new thread - we've been rather busy!
Up to date (ish) Stats thread here:
As previously- Welcome newbies! If anyone wants to join the Facebook group (better for sharing documents and pictures- especially picture of gorgeous babies), please message myself or jennimoo with your real life name and email address and we can add you to the group!
Bring on the irritating texts from family members and best friends to find out whether you've had your babies or not (like you wouldn't tell them.....), more weird and disgusting labour symptoms, more internal examinations than you can shake a stick at, and LOTS OF BABIES!
Muslin over the head end of the basket crib makes the sheets last longer and can be quickly taken off in the night. Pillow cases work as Moses basket sheets. I'd get something to swaddle with as unless they sleep through right away you'd probably want to try swaddling just in case it does the trick, and lots of babies are too small to start in gro bags.
Labouring on your due date means you get lots of texts asking how you're doing, and by not replying people sort of guess!
Ben is feeding fairly well now, although super sleepy (in the day...) and have to strip him right off to persuade him to wake enough to feed!
Arrrrgh. Still contracting every 13 mins. Agony. For 15 sodding hours. I really thought it would all be much faster than this... By the time I get to hospital I will be absolutely exhausted.
On bedding, I think all the gro bag type things only work on quite big babies, so worth getting some sheets and blankets too to begin with.
thanks for the new thread fl0
Ooh hello new thread! Yes to muslin over head end of fitted sheet in Moses basket and pram. Fraser has conjunctivitis and am therefore changing the muslin every sleep, but loads easier to wash and replace than a new sheet each time. He's too small for gro bags yet so I tuck a cellular type blanket across his body under his arms and down under the Moses mattress, that seems to work ok. My hospital midwife said the latest advice is not to swaddle, so my swaddle blanket from DS1 remains in the drawer ;) Fraser self soothes by sucking his fingers anyway and likes a wriggle so swaddling wouldn't suit him in any case...
Marking my place - still in hospital - still having regular contractions and just waiting to see a consultant to see about another pessary to help me dilate. You ladies are definitely keeping me going
The double sheet thing - I did this because I purposely didn't bother to buy a mattress protector for the crib mattress. Seems a waste for such a short use. But equally didn't want a damp sicky mattress, not much you can do with that in the middle of the night!
So double sheets and yy to the folded muslin too. Tbf, DD was a mega sicky baby so please don't think I'm mental....
Need to remember we have this thread! Spend all my time on fb
Thanks for the tip around gro bags, I bought a couple but couldn't help but think they were huge!
DH is tickled by the other suggestions for texts back to nagging PILs that I read him off FB. That was the one from MIL which said "any news?" and DH wrote back my suggestion: "yes we're very worried about the situation in Syria." She has now written back "YOU KNOW that's not what I meant! I just want to know everything's ok." We are ignoring for now. Everything's definitely not ok in Syria, anyway. Horrible.
DH finished off the parts of the hedge I couldn't reach later this afternoon (I should point out I mean the literal actual garden hedge, not fanjo preparation) and mowed the clippings into bits on the lawn, so the garden looks presentable, hopefully for some sunshiney first baby pictures soon... get out get out get out dammit. (40+1)
Hope things speed up for you soon Charl!
Freya and I are home happily now - I'm eating tea on the sofa while she snoozes in the moses basket. Thanks for all your good wishes!
Thanks for the bedding tips ladies! I hadn't even thought of double sheeting, though I had heard the muslin tip. Looks like a big browse'n'buy day on amazon tomorrow.... I need more sheets!
I found asda was cheapest for sheets and they were all fine in the past.
I can't believe you were hedge trimming rake (literally not metaphorically)
I am stiff and sore after hoovering the livingroom and hall and walking to the hairdresser and back (only about half a mile away).
Tomorrow's grand plans are to bake a cake for my ante-natal yoga group, clean the bathroom and then go to yoga..... that seems like challenge enough for me
Sending good dilation vibes Charl and mooster. Good luck x
Things that are not a good idea: Allowing DH's friends to invite themselves (and their two month old baby) to stay when I am 38 weeks pregnant. On the upside I will get to serve the mint jelly I made! Alongside homegrown lamb, homegrown spuds, homegrown beans and homegrown kohlrabi. I am indeed a modern (and much, much fatter) version of Felicity Kendal.
Thinking happy, contraction (SURGE!!) thoughts for all the induction/labour ladies. Rake I can't believe that trimming a hedge hasn't kickstarted labour! Maybe scrub floors? If you haven't got any dirty floors to hand you can come here and I'm sure I can find you some!
Yey to new thread, thanks fl0 likewise great to me you and ready yesterday, we must do it again + anyone in the Surrey/Hampshire borders that want to join us?
I officially live in Surrey now. None of that London crap for me anymore! To be fair, I live in Kingston so it it very close to London still.
I've knackered both my hands- think it's carpel tunnel brought on by doing too much. Painted neat plaster yesterday which was hard work, then woke up with very sore joints in both hands. It started last week when I sawed a hole for a cat flap in our wooden door Think I need to accept I'm not capable of doing thr same things anymore- I seem to just wreck my body when I try.
Checking in. Good luck Charl and Mooster!
Just checking in and marking place.
fl0, I don't really know how to send a private message so that I can give you my real name for fb
juniper I'm an ex-Kingston resident...moved along the river to Staines...still inside the m25 tho (just) ;-)
Just checking in. My tummy is going hard at very regular intervals. It doesn't hurt but is uncomfortable. Could this be the start of something? I haven't had anything else - show etc. eeeeekkkkkk if it is!
Charl, I've been checking Facebook all day for updates from you. Hope you're managing to rest/sleep and you have some news to share soon. How many magazines have you got through?
ION, I've missed having the odd bit of chocolate due to GD. My DH took me to Hotel Chocolat to pick a post birth treat after I'd seen the consultant today. I've got a mini slab and some truffles to look forward to . . . that's why I married him!! Oh, he also knows to have the Brie and pâté ready!!!
That's lovely flip! I've got a bag of pretzels waiting for me, that I will inhale hopefully heartburnless!
Oh a new thread! Will mark place and catch up tomorrow, too sleepy to read now zzzzzzzzz.....
Couldn't resist a quick skim read - I'm on the Sussex/Surrey border and near the motorway so count me in for any meet ups please )
BOO, no-one is near me, though I'll happily come to London as it's easily reachable.
Am now officially overdue but fine with that. Had no uncomfortable feelings whatsoever at this stage with DD but have had several moments over the last week where I feel like I've got 8cm pressure down below! Hoping that means that this one won't be too much longer. Sadly is has reminded me how much 8cm pressure hurts. ARSE.
Hello new thread!
Hope charl & mooster had eventful (or restful) nights ... Look forward to news this morning.
And good luck to those in for cs today, hope all goes well all round ...and for those gd sufferers close to the end!!
I'm in Kent.
I'm pretty sure I definitely had my show last night. and still have my need to poo but don't feeling.
I got about 2 hours sleep in the end though, so if today is the day then it could get interesting.
Had a scan and baby definitely breech, I've got some acupressure tips and will start scrubbing the floor!
Thanks for starting the bedding discussion, I've learnt lots, going with blanket&sheet rather than grow bag at first.
Found out yesterday my best friend has either had a missed miscarriage or ectopic. I've been there so can help her thru it but reminds me how lucky we all are to get where we are.
The pillow case tip is a good one though. Would save some ££
hetty sounds like my braxton hicks-esp if they are high on the bump
Good luck tuddles
juniper & kitten sounds good, we arranged via FB, will do the same for next week
SGJ I think London is the 1st place I wouldn't want to travel to at this point, after years of commuting there, I'm not missing it at all
Super excited for those who are having babies today!!!!
The highlights of my day will be baking a cake for the ante-natal yoga group, cleaning the bathroom and going to ante-natal yoga. Rock and Roll!!
ION: finally put the waterproof sheet on the bed last night... it's not nice but better than ruining the matress I guess. 39wks today. Still feasibly three weeks to go...
Yay for babies!
hetty- I talked to the MW about my weird pains on sunday and she said they sounded like BH as "proper" contracts start bottom of the bump and work their way up and BH tend to be around the top of the bump.
I have a baby! Born at 2.45 this morning. Oh my god though, labour was one hell of a shock. (a survivable one though, for first timers still waiting to go, with no disasters or anything).
Will catch up on thread now.
Congratulations mooster! I know it hurt but even between contractions I found I forgot how much they hurt! The feeling afterwards when you've 'done it' is fab though: DH couldn't understand how I could look and feel so good afterwards.
Hope that isn't TMI for those still waiting for DC1, I really remember both my labours 'fondly' even now less than 3 days after the 2nd
Congratulations monster!!! Yahoo..
I nearly sent my message saying moister!
Massive congratulations Mooster!!
Am liking the pillow case idea too
Congratulations to Mooster!
I've got a growth scan this afternoon. No idea what they're going to say. I don't doubt that the baby is probably small, it has never felt heavy to me, and also we are the 'small family' as I've had to explain to poor DS1 recently as he's just realised that he's at least a head smaller than everyone in his class! Just not sure if the size of the baby is going to be a problem. I'm assuming they only really worry if you have a lack of amniotic fluid and they think the baby isn't growing. But I've got such a short time to go (already 39 + 4) and there is certainly no shortage of movement from this baby. I'm going to put my hospital bag in the car anyway just in case. I suppose it should probably be there anyway...
Fingers crossed Dorita that you'll manage to persuade baby to turn!
Congrats Mooster!!! Yay for all the babies!
Oohhh I think I'm drastically underestimating how hard this is going to be
39 + 1 today, have a midwife app this afternoon. Really hoping she will say I'm engaged. Last time (2weeks ago) this monster was totally free! Fingers crossed.
Congrats to all the lovely new babies I hope everything goes well today with impending births xxx good luck ladies.
Good luck to other ladies on the verge. Wish it was my turn! But only 37+4 so probably a while to wait yet
Congrats Mooster! Looking forward to hearing all the juicy details!
Hi all, I'm new to this thread but due today, technically! Was offered a sweep yesterday but am not impatient enough just yet so going to have faith that the baby will come out when ready.
Good luck to everyone going into labour at the mo and congrats to those all done and dusted!
congratulations mooster hope you are recovering from your marathon effort and enjoying baby cuddles.
badguider I had a waterproof undersheet on the bed for a while too but found it make me sweaty and uncomfortable - have now swapped it for a strategically placed dry-nites toddler training sheet underneath the fitted sheet which is a bit nicer
Welcome laquila how are you feeling?
congratulations Mooster that's brilliant news.
I am now having a c section as the induction failed too make me dilate so they couldn't break my waters - really hoping it happens today but may well be tomorrow as it's not an emergency.
Thanks Kitten! I feel OK, to be honest, not that things couldn't be improved by a couple of decent nights' sleep before the baby arrives...;)
Last night was uncomfortable and I think maybe I had some Braxton Hicks, but hard to tell. I think I'm in for the long haul, basically!
Charl either way it sounds like it won't be long for you although I know that time doesn't half drag right now!
Good luck with the section Charl. Looking forward to the birth announcement.
Well, I had another (thankfully) pointless scan. Was measuring small according to the midwife but baby is measuring bang on average and fluid levels fine. So back to waiting impatiently.
Welcome Laquila- message me if you want to join the facebook group too- good for sharing photos of cute little babies! :@)
Good that the scan went well Manoodle and hoping you've had your csection now Charl Not knowing when you can next eat or drink can't be fun.
I have a section booked for next tues as baby has been determined to stay breech. Due date is not until the 6th so unlikely to come earlier although had some period pain cramps and like lots of braxton hicks last night. Had my pre-op appointment today which has made it all quite real now. Looking forward to hearing more baby news!
I am on the Hampshire/W Sussex border if that's near anyone?
Also, I know it was ages ago but since someone mentioned their changing box of goodies for downstairs I have also found it v useful to have a little wash bag in there for me. It only has nipple cream, breast pads and maternity pads but is useful for sorting yourself out after LO is fed and changed etc.
ION my little man is doing v well, day five and he's only lost 3% of hs body weight, and is feeding well. As a first timer I can say that I pretty much forgot the labour by the time I was transferred to the overnight ward.
Well done and congratulations Mooster!!
Thanks Manoddledo send all your 'turning' thoughts my way!! Sounds like you're pretty ready to go... good luck!
With regards to the downstairs changing bag, are people buying one or two changing mats? I bought a second hand changing table (£12 off eBay!) which I plan on putting in the baby's room, but realistically I'll probably change its nappy downstairs... so two changing mats? Or is that excessive?
I was thinking about that earlier juniper...came to the decision that I'd probably keep an eye out for a travel type foldable changing mat to go in the box without taking up loads of room. Would interested to hear what others are doing though....
I used the free Boots changing bag for downstairs last time, which came with a good sized travel change mat, so we always used that and kept the nice Mamas and Papas one for upstairs, though to be honest I should have swapped as the downstairs one got a fair bit of use! We also had a travel change mat in our bedroom for night time changes whilst DD was still in with us, which was really handy.
ION (and possibly TMI), I've been feeling some unusual wetness over the last couple of hours and am wondering whether it's my waters very slightly trickling or just normal/late-pregnancy fanjo wetness that most people get anyway (I do not get this during pregnancy, I should say; I always experience a decrease in discharge throughout pregnancy. Sorry - definitely TMI!)
Anyway, have out a pad on, finally finished packing the bags and put a towel on the bed just in case!! Was due yesterday...
Ooh that's exciting SGJ, keep us posted!
Sgj- exciting, might be something! It wasn't for me this time., but last time it all started like that.
Cheese straw - we're close aren't we, I'm also on the border bust chat on FB! And well done on the weight loss: looking forward to seeing how DSs doing on Saturday.
Jenni, I was thinking of your labour when I was typing it! I think I've had the tiniest bit of show and there were a few mild twinges at times but nothing progressive at all, though DD woke up several times for no apparent reason so maybe she can sense something's occurring!! It has meant that I finally have had my first 'I've had the baby' dream and in said dream it was a very speedy but accidental home birth - eek! Premonition?!??
Have got my midwife sister coming round with her DD today anyway, and a midwife appointment this afternoon so will see what happens. Would still really like to hang on until 12.01am on Sunday though!
SGJ I had that unusual dampness yesterday and went to my local day care (who were a bit useless) and they said it's not but that my pains aren't braxton hicks as my tummy isn't going hard all over and that they could be mild contractions, still going to Wales tonight with the foresight that we may need to leave earlier than planned
I think I trip to Wales would definitely bring on labour! Hope it works for you!
Congratulations to all those with new arrivals! (I'm starting to lose count! )
Last time I kept the changing bag, with the travel changing mat in it, downstairs, so I had everything to hand for a change. Had a "proper" changing mat upstairs, laid out on the spare bed with everything set out around it. Planning to do the same this time.
ION I've now finished work (the cakes went down well) and the tiredness hit me. Had a bath at 6.30, dozed off while DH went to buy us a curry, woke up, ate curry, went back to sleep until 6.30 this morning! Sadly, I still feel tired.
Could someone on the Sussex/Surrey/Hampshire borders meet up chat on fb add me to it pretty pls? Purplepoppyseed said she had pm'd me but I don't seem to have got anything....TVM!
Babies babies everywhere!!!!
I want one now.
And that's probably about the first time I've really felt that about a newborn - dh and I have been more about wanting a 'child' or toddler but now I'm starting to see the appeal of newborns (thankfully!).
kitten unless ur friends on fb the message goes into a different inbox called 'other'...it's visible from a laptop but not on ur phone unfortunately!
PS...I've only just discovered it & it appears I've missed out on all manner of leaving/engagement/birthday parties over the last 3 years! Quite a few of the messages were from friends so I've no idea why they ended up there...people must be thinking I'm so anti-social...
Oh ok thanks ready I'll boot up the laptop and have a look then - what a bloody unhelpful feature that is!
You can change your settings to allow messages from non-friends into your inbox but it means any page or company can spam you.
I've updated the stats list - can somebody check it? The 29th was our busiest day yet for babies - four mums and five babies
I think some people might have changed name between being listed in the EDD list and their birth announcement - so there might be some people below the line listed with an EDD who shouldn't be there as they're already above the line with an actual birth date.
The one to check is the very last post on the list, dated this morning, and that's the one to copy and paste if you can make any changes.
I'm up for meet ups! Can do anywhere in/around London - have existing reasons to go to Essex (ILs), Kent and Surrey (mates), and there are lots of gardens I want to visit with my RHS card and I think you can usually take one guest in free/discounted. And they do good tea and cake. Honestly, taking a baby into London other than in rush hour is really not that bad once you have got into good habits of not taking every possible thing out with you. Daunting yes but difficult no.
Changing bags: when you come in from a day out, re-stock the bag so it is ready and stuffed under the buggy. Having a changing set either on the table in the nursery or in the room you end up spending most if your time should be a separate thing from the going out bag. Changing mats... Hmm we actually always ended up using a muslin, just to protect the floor, but we did have some more spill-proof mats too, no idea where they are from, and foldable slightly padded wipe clean mats. If you put the fresh nappy opened out under the bum before you start taking off the stinky one, you usually don't run the risk of any mess escaping at all.
We've lost some people to the 'due any dway?' thread too, badguider. E.g. I'm sure ladyflumpalot was one of ours some time back.
people are defecting to other freds?? Traitors!!
rake I'm definitely up for a central London meet up too, will be looking for an excuse to take baby into the office for showing off!
That's where I'm lucky Kitten, my office is closer to the ward than my house is. I've already warned people that I will be waddling over for a change of scenery if they want to keep me in!
Boooooo. Just had 40+3 appointment. Baby still pointing the right way but 4/5 palpable so not very engaged at all. Went for a sweep but cervix posterior and she could only just get a fingertip in. So it's basically not happening. Ah well, I can plan other stuff now. Think we'll go swimming, and go into London tomorrow to one of the museums. I could have booked a pedicure if I'd thought about it but my preferred places are probably booked up now.
Lovely lovely midwife had to mention induction to me, gave me a leaflet, but agreed it wasn't something we really want to think about now. At next Friday's appointment we'll talk some more probably, but I've had a look at the leaflet and they do 'outpatient IOL' for low risk pregnancies, where you are given the pro-pess and sent home to labour normally. I expect home birth is not advised by then (although if I really really insisted...)
So I am a bit grumpy now.
Poor you rake. I remember that feeling with DS2. I was 40+3 too. Still, it can all happen really quickly. I got home from my midwife appointment in a right mood, gutted that it wasn't happening and my waters broke very soon after. I'm feeling a bit like that just now. It feels like weeks now I've been on edge, every morning you get up thinking it could be today, then at night you go to bed half expecting to be up in the night making a dash to the hospital, but no... Do you think if I finally sit down and sew up all the baby things I've been knitting the baby will make an appearance? Is that what it's waiting for? Or maybe I need to actually have the moses basket fully ready, currently it's just sitting by my bed full of sheets and blankets and some newborn clothes.
Rake - DD wasn't even 1/5 engaged a few days before she was born so means nothing. This one was 5/5s engaged for weeks...
And the cervix thing, you can be totally closed and go into labour within hours, or equally you can be 1-2 cm and nothing happen for days/weeks.
Totally get where you're coming from though. DD came 11 days late, and the whole 'babies come when they're ready' gets really old really quick «hugs»
Thanks for the sympathy I know I am over thinking. Bit self indulgent. I have grown another 2cm over the bump in the past week too, so I know baby is getting bigger all the time and it can't be spacious in there any more, but I just weighed myself too and I have lost a whole kilo since a couple of weeks ago, which is very odd indeed. This may have something to do with the energy boost I think have had and the walks, berry picking, swimming... But still, bump getting bigger and overall weight not... is weird.
Ho hum. Yay for all the new babies especially the latest twins!
I thought that second children onwards didn't really 'engage' till labour anyway rake?
I doubt any of it means anything.. still could be any time.
Rake, have been just reading a few 'signs to look for' articles and lots of which suggest mom will often lose a couple or three pounds just before things kick off....sounds like what's happened!
Rake, I feel your pain. 40+2 and saw the midwife this morning - mine's still not engaged either, and grown another 2cm since last time. They wouldn't even attempt a sweep with me! I have been getting a few cramps over the last couple of days so I did think things might be starting off, but had nothing today so I think I can safely assume not. Ah well, got a hot curry made for tomorrow night and will get bouncing on the gym ball to see if that helps.
Baby brain also seems to be getting the better of me. Been quite good til now but I have just managed to take the dog to the park in my pajama bottoms Wearing them round the house as I decided to wash all my comfy bottoms this morning (can I blame that on nesting??!) and my jeans are just slightly too tight for lazing on sofa confortably but I fully intended to put them back on to go out. I realised midway round and then the odd looks I'd got from my neighbours on the way out suddenly made sense...
Gah! Trying to get our mortgage changed over using a brilliant independent financial advisor. Annoyingly they needed to see a bank statement with payments going in for our sallaries and are now asking "Are you pregnant" as there's some Mothercare purchases on there. CAB says www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/housing_w/housing_moving_and_improving_your_home_e/buying_a_home.htm :
^A mortgage lender doesn't have to give you a mortgage. However, they must not refuse to lend you a mortgage, or treat you less favourably than other people, simply because you are pregnant.
If the mortgage lender has turned down your application because of your pregnancy, this is likely to be discrimination and could be unlawful. Get advice from an experienced adviser about what to do.^
But it's v annoying. When we first got a mortgage 5 yrs ago, we owed much more, were paying a much higher rate and were both earning considerably less between us than my husband currently earns.... so with our new much lower rate we'll be quids in- so they better bloody not refuse us a mortgage!!
Walked 4 miles yesterday and feet are the size of loaves of bread..... husband had the afternoon off and the chain snapped on his new mountain bike so he's hobbling around too! Rubbish pair!
Ha ha Waggy, that made me chuckle! Baby brain indeed!
Fl0 try not to worry (although it is a pretty random question to ask!) I've just moved house and although our mortgage provider threw many obstacles in our way (house related) in the end they approved everything, so good luck
Phew, thanks! Just did some dull maths and they'd be idiots not to approve!
Rake - I've heard the same thing about losing weight right at the end as well; there's got to be a silver lining about going overdue!
Midwife has arranged for a sweep next Thursday (41+1) but didn't book an induction date so hoping that it'll all kick off naturally and I won't end up having to wait until 14+ days over due to September baby boom/busy hospital!
Flo I tried to hide my pregnancy from
... Our mortgage advisor as we're first time buyers and I thought they might see me as too much of a risk. Trying to cover up a 6 month bump by standing strategically was not especially effective. When she looked through our account, there was a payment to NCT which she queried, but I just played innocent. Don't think we fooled her, but she never asked directly- just asked if we have any dependants (and the cats don't count, regardless of how DP feels about them!)
I weighed myself in labour on Monday and securely hadn't put on in the last few weeks, possibly a month. Might have even lost a pound but my scales are pretty unreliable. Looking forward to weighing myself soon and seeing how much has dropped off!
I weighed myself the day ds2 was born (after an 8lb2 baby + all the other guff had gone) and cried as I was 15 stone (5 stone weight gain!!!!!!!!!!!!) took me 2 years to get back under 10 stone then found out I was pg with ds3 am currently 12 1/4 stone trying not to turn into a whale!!! (Again!!)
Two words to suck the joy and any residual glamour out of pregnancy.
On an entirely weight-gain-unrelated note (although perhaps not, as it'll involve me wearing a swimming costume), DH has just revealed he's bought me a spa day to use a few months after I've had the baby! Very sweet, AND he bought me flowers and biscuits yesterday. He's obviously been paying attention when I've recently mentioned labour and how annoying it will be...
kitten sorry just seen your note, I tried to pm you on here and FB! Have you found either?
purple yes I got the fb message sorry for not replying yet only had a few mins on the laptop, will do it tomorrow!
SGJ aww bless your DH how lovely of him
I thought i was Ing to have to divorce dh when he announced that I wasn't allowed to buy any of the gorgeous winter baby suits with little ears. Then found one in the bag of clothes we have been given ...with a little bear on hooray!!!
Bear, I bought a really cute one from h&m and it was only £15... It's quite beary too!
RunningBear why is DH so morally opposed to teeny tiny ears on teeny tiny clothes?! How could someone mind such a thing?!
'Unusual dampness' has continued, am now working with gunk that's occasionally tinged pink/red/ brown, so definitely the start of losing my plug. Haven't had many contractions though, probably only about 5 since waking up this morning. Making the most of a probable last weekend as a family of 3, and a sunny one at that!
Personally I don't understand why anyone would not jump at the chance to dress tiny cute babies in super cute clothes!? anyway, seems I am allowed to use the one we have been given, but not buy new ones ...i think that is a win!
My DH is a bit anti bear suits, I think it's because he got dressed in one and the photos ome out too often
Apparently Edinburgh Zoo shop is selling panda onesies. I'd like to say I haven't already checked their online shop, but that would be a lie. All clothes are 10x cuter with ears, 20x cuter if they have a tail too and 30x cuter if they have paw pads. It's a scientifically proven fact
I totally agree juniper I've got a cute monkey onsie for DD to wear this winter, she's 3 so I might not be able to get away with it much longer!
Oh good gracious, the ILs have surpassed themselves now. I sent an email giving them the date our vicar has said is available for baptism of both DS and yet-to-arrive DC2. They have written back that yes they will keep that date free, but then "You seem to be lacking a baby at the moment unless there's something you are not telling us." And then complained that we haven't told them anything compared to Janet and Roy who know that their next grandchild will arrive on a specific date in December and is going to be a boy called Billy Bob (names changed to protect the innocent). Er, what? We told them in February the due date (the actual one, against
my our better judgement) , that we don't know the sex and that we haven't picked names. DH is hopping mad, and I can now hear the sounds of the constituents of a beef stir fry being chopped angrily to prevent himself phoning them and giving them an earful of what-for.
We have a handmedown snow suit from Gap in tan suedette with bear-like ears. It is gorgeous, but is for a 9-12 monther, so unless we go somewhere cold next summer or have an outrageous whopper of a baby, we might not get to use it...
What makes it worse (I may have told this story before) is that DH's brother and his very private
some might say to a loopy degree wife only told the ILs about the arrival of their child the day she arrived - yes that's right, a phone call saying congratulations you have a grand-daughter. You'd think we would have less interference in comparison, as thankfulness that we keep them in the loop at all, not demands for exhaustive detail to make up for it.
They sound bonkers Rake! Some people have no objectivity or perspective, especially at this stage!
Hello, I'm back again!
Unless we have any speedy labours that start and finish within the next 4 hours - it looks like we've made it to the new school year!! Yay!! That has been on my mind for the last nine months!
Can now start trying all the upright and forward positions with squats! And a big fat chinese curry. Oh yes.
juniper I squealed when I discovered that my cuddle robes have tails as well as ears.
runningbear [taps nose] noted.
Oh yeah, DJ made me buy the polar bear hooded towels though for their cuteness value ...wonder why they don't count? Maybe it is an 'in public' thing.
ION have just got the sewing machine out whilst making chicken soup (which I have never made before) but have some uncontrollable urge to make this morning!? Nesting anyone?
Not sure how many are suffering from nasty itchy stretch marks as no one else seems to be mentioning it....anyways I've discovered Mum&Me Stretch Mark Fader...not sure about it's fading abilities as am obviously still stretching, but it has a metal roller built in to the tube which is very soothing when ur trying to fight the urge to itch...
Rake can't believe your ILs, sound like you guys are managing them as best you can and at least you DH is totally in the same camp as you n how they are being... I'm planning to start ignoring my phone regularly over the next week, so I become unreliable and people don't assume I'm in labour!
Ready I'm terrified of getting stretch marks as I had them sooooo badly as a teenager, still have the white marks all around my boobs and all over my hips, however so far I seem to be lucky (touch wood) but that might be because I was a fat teenager, I'm only now just up to the weight I was at 18! For me, as a teenager, bio oil seemed to be the only thing that worked, but that was 10-15 years ago
I got them on hips & boobs as a teen too....thought I'd got away with it this time then at 34 weeks they just came out of nowhere :-( Fortunately they're all under my bump so can only see them if I look in the mirror, but that doesn't stop them itching...
I had terrible ones as a teen too. With first pregnancy I had one or 2 appear at the very end underneath. This time I had them all over my bump! I did put on half a stone more but I wouldn't think that would make that much difference!
Oh yes my stretch marks itch like crazy! Actually they're quite sore sometimes :-/
Can I ask some advice please? LO has developed dry skin, seemingly overnight on his torso, is this normal? It doesn't look suspicious, just very dry, but I am not sure how/whether to treat? He is due o have his first bath tonight so should I baby oil him? TIA
Cheese straw - totally normal I reckon, both mine have had this. It will likely go a bit peely too. It's like the first layer or skin from being in the womb gets 'shed' I think you can use e45 but I'm not going to use anything this time
cheese I think if u use anything at this stage then olive oil is recommended over baby oil.
Beautiful baby boy born last night at 39+2. We're in Scotland so no issues at all with the August birthday.
Labour started after a nice relaxing neck and shoulder massage. Wasted a whole night at 2.5cm by "resisting" the contractions rather than going with them. When I finally figured out what I was doing got to 7cm at home with tens before going into the MLU for a water birth which almost worked out but had to be finished off "on land" for the last three pushes due to meconium.
He's well and I'm feeling both very well and very grateful for such an uncomplicated birth.
Good luck to whoever is next!
Thanks ladies, I wasn't sure if I had the wrong washing powder or something. Will just bath him and leave him then. Phew and I thought it was stressful worrying about pregnancy!
Fabulous news badguider, so pleased for you. Let the fun begin!
Wonderful news badguider well done!
All 3 of mine started flaking soon after birth cheese, mw said to just let it happen, perfectly normal. Aveeno is good if you need anything longer term though, lots of friends with dry skinned children swear by it
Thanks kips. My sister suffered really badly with eczema (sp?) when she was a baby so thought it might be that. Very pleased to know he's all ok though!
Congrats Badguider! Sounds like a good birth.
I'm finally having that curry tonight. I've gone off the boil, it just feels like it's never going to happen... Been getting lots of stabby nerve-type pains. Ow ow ow! Can't believe I could still have another couple of weeks as I only hit my due date tomorrow.
ION my mum came round yesterday just to drop off three different cakes she'd made for the freezer to give my baby visitors. Yay!
I'm hoping baby visitors bring me cake....not the other way around!!
rake sorry but your in laws sound equal parts annoying and bonkersly funny from the outside. Obviously just annoying for you though. I totally dare you not to tell them for a full 24 hrs after the baby arrives...
Had 38wk midwife appt this morning, all looking good, baby still head down but only the tiniest bit engaged. Next check up not until 2 days after EDD - eeek! Mw said she'll do a sweep if I want next time...I had to explain what that was to DH after came out - his face was a picture haha
badguider huge congrats, sounds like a lovely birth experience for you!
We're having another Spicery curry tonight - Achari Murgh, which is a chicken curry made with mustardy spices, and a plum chutney which is apparently where the kick is...! Neighbours coming round to help us with it (always big quantities). DH is in favour of labour starting when the boy goes into nursery in the morning, I think it's more likely at night time. To be honest I'll take any time, I am just so tired carrying this great big lump around. DS was 9lb 5oz, so I am quite likely to drop another the same sort of size, and it just feels like it is getting bigger and stronger all the time. There was a serious modern dance explosion in there last night when I tried to settle down to sleep - I put DH's hand there (tried out the Hand Of Authority concept!) but even he thought it felt violent from the outside.
Been out today swimming and a supermarket sweep for the curry constituents just at the end of the day - some excellent MN-worthy behaviour observed at checkouts... I usually escape it these days with the self scan thingy but they shut it down an hour before Sunday closing it seems. Had a nap and still feel tired. Early night coming up.
Cngratulations badguider! I was so envious when you and your namesake both said you had kicked off yesterday morning. Glad that little boy is here safely, and didn't take too long either.
Made massive duck roast dinner; contractions come back again. Bloody typical! At least I'll be getting value for money from the tens machine...
Also think that clothes with ears are the actual best. My sister is obsessed with pandas so I May mention the panda onesies..... rake in laws are mental, is the law. Yours maybe more so than usual. .... On that note though, mil clearly does some where and somehow 'get'me as she isknitting a snowsuit with bear ears
In other news, my uterus does like a Sunday. This is now two in a row with horrific bh painful contractions right at the top of the bump. Like awful indigestion pains. Mw said they were bh. Almost identical to last Sunday so paracetamol and hot bath right now. OUCH!
had a lovely baby shower slash general party yesterday which was lovely to see friends and we also received some very cute and unexpected pressies plus my sister donated leftover wedding laurant perrier! Bonus!
Struggling to type today! Sorry!
"Leftover Laurent Perrier" are 3 words that would never be put together in my world......
Mine neither. ... pre pregnancy! I thoroughly enjoyed a sip of about 6 glasses. ... was one of those parties where I put down and lost my glass every 30 mins!
Ps feeling a bit grumpy as one of my friends seems to be annoyed at me for not inviting her to the baby shower. She lives 200 miles away, I saw her 3 weeks ago and she got back from her honeymoon this week. I assumed she wouldn't be able to make it plus people are rubbish about replying on Facebook so we had no idea how many people were invading! Eek
I want one of those bear suit things too but can't find one yet, so we're going to wait until the babies born as we'll know what size to get too.
We're in the process of buying a house too, didn't tell mortgage people that I'm pg either and as we got mortgage months ago, I was still working and we hadn't been buying things yet so was all ok.
Trip to Wales didn't bring baby on but been getting more and more painful twinges, so hopefully won't be too long till baby arrives
Lotsa, our overnight trip to the South Coast to stay in a caravan didn't show any signs of shifting this lump either... Feel disapointed and relieved in equal measure.
DD adorably called the caravan the 'cafe' all the time we were there
Big congratulations Badguider.
What an achievement to get to 7cm at home!
Hope you don't mind me being nosy. Did your waters go in the birthing pool; is that when they realised there was meconium? Were you asked to leave the pool straightaway?
Sorry for the questions, don't answer if you'd rather not. It's just I had meconium last time (although discovered on artficial membranes rupture) and hoping for a water birth this time.
Triple, I had meconium in my waters with DS four years ago which broke when I was labouring in a MLU pool. He came at 42 weeks and the MW judged that in the absence of any other signs of distress, this was just a sign that he was a bit overcooked. So she said carry on labouring in the pool, I was also out on dry land for the last few pushes, and when they checked him out he had no breathing problems at all so her judgement had been spot on. There's a page on the 'home birthers and hopefuls' web page about what to ask if you're given "uh-oh, meconium, all bets are off" as a reason to move you out of the labouring position you've been progressing in. here it is - is it old, fresh, thick, grade 1/2/3...
Speaking of dressing in bear outfits, work bought me a massive bag of goodies which included this...
[[ www.toysrus.co.uk/Babies-R-Us/Travel-and-Pushchairs/Car-Seats-and-Boosters/Car-Seat-Accessories/Car-Seat-Bear-Cosy-Wrap(0090624)?searchPosition=1 Bear Cover ]]
First real day of mat leave today and know I should try and rest a
bit as utterly shattered, but hard when dh is out at work, I stupidly feel like I should be doing something productive although he keeps telling me to stop doing jobs and do something I like doing....my cleaning is out of control.
Hope I manage to slow down a bit before lo is here, feels so odd not to be working....
I'm sooo rubbish at links, try again...
fozzie enjoy maternity leave however you want! People keep saying I'm doing to much but I'm really trying to enjoy myself in my own way. I find I'm spending about half my time relaxing and half my time being productive. My husband tells me that as Long as I keep growing baby and keeping it safe, he is happy! Is morning I had a long shower, lots of fruit for breakfast and I'm catching up on some telly.vthen I'm going to wash up and have a picnic with a friend and go for a walk.
I'm the same, balancing rest and activity. When I had nothing planned last Thursday I ended up with a stress headache. Do whatever you feel like and don't worry about feeling a bit lost at first. I've definately been there last week. I'm currently on the sofa, eating left over cream tea from my baby shower yesterday having cleared up all the mess and taken a very well behaved MIL to the station. I'll be batch cooking cottage pie later & wandering over to my parents as the Manx family are in town. Hopefully some sunshine will factor today too
We can chat babyshowers tomorrow purple- ours was sat! I've got leftover roast dinner to nibble on whilst faffing with photos from babyshower
triple - yes, I'm pretty sure I felt the waters go in a big bubble in the pool though there had been a tiny trickle earlier as I got into the pool.
I felt my mucus plug go at home and it came out in one big lump and was brown. When I got to the MLU they were already muttering about meconium when they saw the remains of that.... not sure though....
Anyway, when big bubble of waters went they decided the baby needed monitoring and wanted me out the pool. I knew he was nearly out but wasn't in a position to explain that Getting out was horrible but They thought I'd be pushing for a while because of being a first timer so got me out and I heard them say something about going upstairs to the clu delivery suite but at next contraction they saw him crown so called a paed down. Two more and he was out. The only problem was he went to be checked and I had medical delivery of placenta but he was back for skin to skin really quick and everything was/is fine. (DH was slightly traumatised by the end bit though!)
Congratulations badguider sounds like you did a good job! It is funny what makes mw twitchy.
I can't quite imagine climbing out of the pools just as the baby is about to come, although I gather some people want to get out and others don't. My home birth pool is being delivered tomorrow morning and I've just had a session with an aromatherapist midwife - what has happened to me! Might have to go and get myself a kaftan and get some braids in my hair or something ...
I think my mum was slightly disappointed to leave this morning for home without being a granny yet!
If anyone on mat leave with spare time wants to finish my university transfer application, or finish of my phd chapter, just shout! Or you can come and work out how the hell my living room curtain rail goes back up!!!!
Today is my due date and I'm now officially grumpy! Poor DS2 stuck at home with me today, trying to get lots of cleaning done around him. I think we have some of the hottest temperatures here today, unusually for north of Scotland. Making the most of it by getting lots of washing out. Just away to tackle load 3 of the day.
Lol at Triple saying she's disappointed and relieved in equal measure. I feel a bit like that too.
DS2 is supposed to start his pre-school year at nursery tomorrow, which is great timing... Will have to wait and see whether that will be happening. Managed to totally forgot about it and have booked midwife appointment on Thursday for exactly when I'd need to be taking him to nursery. Doh! She has offered to do a sweep but I'm not sure I'll be that desperate.
MeanMrsMustard had a gorgeous girl, for whoever's doing the stats at the moment... haven't seen her on this thread though.
That makes me and SGJ the most overdue of those still posting now... MASSIVE GRUMP.
I am also having a grump today about where DS's early years funding is going at the moment. He isn't starting at school until the third week at term, so we are continuing to pay for him to be at privately run day nursery full time (8-5), but I think that September's bill from them doesn't include Early Years 15 hours per week, I suspect that the school has got the money by putting in their whole school roll as if everyone was there for the whole term.
Hate to break it to u rake but SGJ has done the deed! Lovely baby girl...pic on fb.
Oh, I've just seen that. <mournful whimper> I guess I'm a "ten month mama" type. Although I have had some mucus this morning - completely white, but it's the first mucus in a while.
I'm not usually one to complain, but Boy, am I bored! Maternity leave started a week or so ago and I've now run out of things to do. Reading and TV just about all I can think of.
Not got the energy or need to do any cleaning either - plus bump is descending again which can cause rather sharp hip pains so I'd rather stay sitting for the meantime.
DP back at work today so just me knocking around the house. We moved back to Birmingham 3 weeks ago (stressfu,l but fine) from London and I don't have many friends here as yet. I hope that will change once baby is born.
Lovely to be reading of everyone's arrivals here and on fb though.
dakomponist could you do some batch cooking or baking for the freezer to alleviate the boredom? I felt so smug afterwards! This is my fifth week of mat leave (40+4) and I'm starting to feel I've exhausted my options...have crafted, baked, cooked, read, bathed, walked, shopped, hoovered (intermittently...) and done a lot of crosswords. The worst bit is not being ale to sleep at night, so I'm starting to go to bed later and later which probably isn't good for me. Hey ho - you just do what you can, don't you?!
All discharges are held up as there's a big queue for docs to write painkiller prescriptions. But I'm not on any painkillers or in any pain. Don't want any meds. Just want to go home!!!
Thanks for sharing your birth info Badguider
Sorry you're stuck in... Would you not be seen by a MW tomorrow at home anyway?
I think that without discharge paperwork the MW visit tomorrow wouldn't be triggered and/or she wouldn't have full notes.
Just have to keep being patient.... Am being very insistently polite
Babies, babies everywhere!
My child is still resolutely in breech despite my repeated attempts to reason with him. Looks like I've got a headstrong one on my hands... the boy is not yet born and I am feeling like a parental failure already!
On a different note, did everyone prepare gifts for their ob-gyn/midwife team? I have a vague feeling I should do so, and can't think of anything but boxes of chocolate.
Peregrin - I'd say hospital staff love chocs - or anything they can nibble on when their waiting to have a break - it keeps them going!
Badguider - was just wondering what you meant when you said you wasted a night resisting the contractions? Do you mean the position you were in? Just thinking what's best to do when they start up...
Well I am 39 weeks today, but still running around like a headless chicken with loads to do! Aghh! At least change bag arrived in post today so I can pack for the labour! Wonder if I'm the most disorganised....although half my NCT group seem to be moving house on their due dates so I must be more sorted than them!
I feel quite rubbish now, but it would never have occurred to me to pack gifts for the ward MWs...
I didn't take gifts. If I felt someone went above and beyond I might send something in afterwards though.
We've packed a couple of packets of nice biscuits for the midwives. I think that'll do for them!
dakomponist have you looked up ur local children's centre? A lot of places seem to offer a 'bumps & babes' club that u can start going to pre-baby & might help u meet sum people...
I'm only on mat leave part-time but between my existing friends, mumsnet & Nct I have activities planned with fellow preggo's/new mums for every day that I've had off so far & have planned in the next 2 weeks! When I do eventually get a free day I plan to swim & to bake something.
Oh & if I have loads of time on my hands then I've going to create photo books for our last 2 holidays....
If I go 2 weeks overdue then I may even get round to creating the photo book of my round the world trip...only been on the to do list for the last 7 years or so!
I'm so sorry, Rake! We were supposed to be over due delivery buddies! If its any consolation, I started getting clear mucus appearing on Friday night and had delivered by this morning, so the end could be in sight!
I shocked myself by having a (completely unplanned) water birth - after arriving at hospital at 4am, by 6.30am I was so shattered from no sleep for 2 nights that I decided to forgoe a quick labour (was having the start of pushing contractions, prob was about 8-9cm) and just lay down on the bed and slept for an hour! Cxs stopped altogether! Then on shift change the new midwife suggested getting in the water and I thought why not, that'll keep them at bay for a bit longer...HA HA HA, in the water at 8am, baby by 8.50am. No gas & air, even flubbed out the placenta without an injection! Teeny weeny cord again though, so did about 5 mins max of skin to skin before chopping.
And, to end this essay, we even let a male paramedic in to watch the whole thing as it was his training rotation - first birth he'd ever seen!! (He sensibly left when I had stitches though!)
Anyway, birth story over, now sending contract-y vibes to Rake and anyone else still waiting xx
Oh and I packed presents, got 2 lots of a vase, small packets of Thorntons and some Love Hearts (cheesy, I know). Last time DH went out and panic bought loads from Waitrose so I planned ahead this time!
For the midwives I bought a gift box and have four pretty mugs, a tub of Milicano coffee and Bewleys hot chocolate. Then I filled the rest with museli bars etc. I have to say, my midwives have been exceptionally nice.
I might be allowed to have a sweep this week a few days before I am 40 weeks. Baby is very big.. are any of you going to go for one?
I have been off since the start of the school holidays.. first time in my life having as much time off as I have had. Had to get over the guilt stage a while ago.
Ha ha ready I've had the same 'round the world trip photobook ' item on my to do list for 13 years now... With 3 DS now I'm thinking I might just need to cross it off the list for good and move on ;)
I'm still here Rake! 40+5 and absolutely no sign of anything happening soon. Had curry for the last three nights, lots of raspberry leaf tea, pineapple juice, long dog walks, plenty of ball bouncing and even dtd for the first time in ages...and nowt. What more do I have to do?!
Huge congratulations to everyone who's had their babies, looking forward to joining you soon!
My midwife tried to convince me not to have a sweep when I her for my 39wk appt next week. I'm not bothered either way but she says that everything is on track so no point intervening until I'm well over 40wks but she is sure I won't get that far without baby arriving naturally (how to build up my hopes! )
I'm blooming shattered after s nice picnic with friends this afternoon. .... didn't realise how long it would go on for and someone else drove so I was a bit at their mercy and didn't want to be a pain! In bed now and been for a while :-)
Sweep a week Wednesday. A compromise as the MWs are not keen to let me go over because of my immobility and I'm not keen chemical induction. My bump is measuring at 35 weeks even though I'm almost 39 weeks. D'ye reckon that means I'll be miles overdue or will the sweep sort it out?
I have absolutely zero guilt at being off and am happily filling my time. The rest of my life (mostly) will be running around after other people so I'm happily being selfish while I can.
SGJ can't believe you did that without g&a! I reckon there must be a medal (made of chocolate?) for you somewhere!
amiready I still haven't packed either. Good to know it's not just me!
Right I'm keeping my fingers crossed you overdue ladies pop tomorrow -it's also my birthday and the weather is great for a BBQ every year on 3rd Sept so a great day to be born
amiready - at 2.5cm I was a bit weirded by the contractions being in my back and bum and hips and I sort of tensed and gritted my teeth through them rather than consciously breathing them through and trying to relax / open. I was still 2.5cm 6hrs later.
After I got the breathing I felt everything open and plug come out etc.
Is anyone up? This is really TMI sorry
I was just laying in bed with quite bad pains. Felt something kind of just go (really hard to explain) so quickly went to toilet and something "fell" out of me (into the toilet, so couldn't get a decent look) it was a greeny/brown colour.
Does anyone know what this could be/ if I need to ring hospital?
I'm now sitting on the toilet, scared to move and in quite a bit of pain. Most of it is quite low down but it is in waves.
I hope you're off the toilet now! Definitely the plug if its snotty green and old blood brown. And waves of pain sounds like contractions. I don't think you need to call unless close together, hopefully you've gone back to sleep.
Sounds like plug!
Mine came out in one big 'plop'.
Good luck, remember to breathe slowly and relax as much as possible.
Ooh sounds like it's happening Lotsa, good luck!
Oooh good luck lotsa, keep us posted!
So lovely waking up to exciting baby news every morning at the moment!
Good luck Lotsa!
I am seeing consultant tomorrow at 38+3 and have the chance of a sweep. DHs and my instinct is that it's far too soon, but we're happy to talk it over at the appointment and then decide.
Childish I know, but I feel quite shy about it. Plus my backside is really sore from piles (sorry TMI, Prep H is my friend) and I'd just rather not have someone have a good old gander and a rummage round there just yet... Anyone else feel the same?
Good luck Lotsa :-)
Woken up this morning after feeling rubbish for a few days and bump has severely dropped!! 36+6-feeling much better today.
Is there any guide on how soon a bump drops vs how soon baby comes for a first baby? Assuming probably not, but dh and I are pretty convinced this one will be here early
sure hospital dated me wrong by a week
After planned induction yesterday morning (only needed gel, then broke waters & all kicked off) I had the fastest & most straightforward of my three births, my beautiful little girl born yesterday. Good luck to you all, it's the best thing in the world.
Triple-I feel the same, sure I won't care when I'm in the midst of labour, but only seen female drs previously so dreading possibility of random man having a rummage
Mw's are all female, but think drs are mainly male so praying for no intervention.. But tbh probably won't care by then
Wow-congrats tat! Lovely news
There's a male mw at our hospital fozzie...I'm not sure how I'd feel if I got him. I guess u get over it...plus I'm guessing some of the docs are male anyways...
Exactly Fozzie, it for some reason matters to me that 1) it's a bloke (surprising myself there) and 2) it's in the cold light of day. The midst of labour ones where you've already got half your kit of anyway don't worry me much at all and are much less painful by that stage anyway.
Weirdly Ready, I feel ok about a male MW.
I think it's a different balance of power with a Consultant. I'm always slightly nervous before the Cons appointments compared to the normal MW ones. Also feel the need to dress reasonably smartly and be prepared beforehand in terms of any questions, whereas MW appointments are much more laid back.
The thought if dropping my drawers so Mr Consultant can have a look weirds me out. As if he was a head teacher or my boss or something... Totally silly on my part I fear
Well good morning all. It's 41 weeks for me today, by the scan calendar, and 40 weeks by my cycles, which I know to the day because I was quietly OPK-ing just for information while Just Shagging for TTC... So I have a 14 day literal phase, 28 day cycle, have had one 9lb+ baby before but oh no, if it has a whatever cm CRL on the day the scan is done, it must be 12w6d gestation. Because all foetuses of all parents' ethnic mix and body shapes are exactly the same size as they develop, yes? Ggggrrrrrrrr.
And not a twinge. An ok night's sleep.
Thanks badguider, that's helpful. Must remember to breathe. I've told DH he needs to remember all these things and remind me - although he will probably get his head bitten off once he tries. Ah well.
Good luck Lotsa
Sorry you feel fed up Rake. I'm 39+2 but hoping it will be a bit delayed as I'm catching up on my to do list for the first time in ages!! Also DH has told me that I can't have it this week as he is covering 3 people at work! He said he would have to still go in if I did! Not sure about that one....
Anyone else wondering how the care will split between yourself and DH when they are 'going to work' and we are 'not'? e.g. weekend lie ins, going for nights out etc. He keeps murmuring about wanting to do lots of hobbies....
Haven't posted since I had my gorgeous baby girll ast Thursday (Isla Olive) - just wanted to say congratulations to all the new arrivals - it really is do lovely hearing everyone's news.
I hope those waiting won't gave to wait too much longer.
Best tip so far (being a first timer) is putting a muslin cloth over the Moses basket mattress - it's saved me from completely having to change the sheet numerous times - so thank you to whoever passed this tip on
Well, at 2:20 ish this morning my waters broke (pretty impressively, into the toilet) but the baby had pooed, so was told to go straight in.
When MW did examination, she found that he was breech so did a scan to confirm.
So because he was breech, I had to have an emergency Caesarian and at 5:29 this morning little zach was born weighing 5lb 13, he's perfectly healthy apart from he's got a bit of mucus where he'd breathed in some of the miconin (or however you spell it).
Was quite amusing as MW was saying that due to the miconin they will probably induce me, then examined and said that even if he wasn't breech, they wouldn't need to as he was coming quickly. When they but my catheter in, she could see his butt making an appearance.
So, I'm currently laying in hospital, with my gorgeous baby who wriggles as much in his sleep as his dad does
I was quite scared of getting an epidural, but it was nothing compared to the contractions. Although, it really is true. I think I've forgotten how bad they were already
Congrats Lotsa, gosh what a rollercoaster!
Congratulations lotsa! Glad it all worked out.
Congrats lota and tat :-) hurrah for even more babies!
I'm having a very slow day after a rather over long picnic in the sun yesterday. Have succeeded at washing up and de-fluffing below with complex mirror set up and now very tired, but off for lunch soon with kitten juniper purple and ready (I think!)
Oops, baby brain strikes again, it's just the three of us again as kitten and juniper are not on mat leave yet, was going to see if we can sort something in the evening later this week or next week instead!
Congratulations to both Lotsa and Tat!
Triple, I used to feel exactly the same way about consultants! Now I work in HR at the hospital, and it's just impossible to feel threatened by anyone you've had to explain an expense form to 3 times! Most of them are really, really nice, but I do see a fair bit of the "highly intelligent people have no common sense" theory in practice. The only awkward part for me is seeing one of the doctors who's treated me, come into my office, and thinking "God I hope you don't recognise me when I'm upright and dressed!"
ION first "day off" for mat leave, with DD in preschool, and no work. I've had a lovely long bath, exfoliated, moisturised, and even fake tanned my legs. My skin doesn't know what's hit it. Now off to Ikea to buy potato cakes as I've had a hankering for them all day.
I hope all of you with new arrivals are managing to get enough sleep, and I hope all of you still expecting aren't getting too fed up.
Congrats lotsa, bit I am eventful night for you then!
fl0 et al, hope you have a fun catch up, looking forward to meeting you all soon
Brilliant news Lotsa! Hope you and little Zach are now enjoying some time together
Mango, that sounds immense! Congratulations to Lotsa and Tat - even when not having a baby I love hearing all about people's different birth stories, it's mad how many ways we humans can produce babies!
Rake - I'd hold off for a couple of days now if I were you - this heat is tres annoying with a teeny baby, and the hospital room will be sweltering. Wait until Thursday night when the weather's set to cool down!
I'm hoping to pop at home, SGJ, so with any luck I wont have to suffer a sweltering PN ward at all... Nevertheless as time ticks by you have to think through different ways it might pan out, so last night DH and I had a run through of the arguments for/against induction based on being "overdue" and also the backchat we might have to deploy if advised to transfer in to hosp during birth process or afterwards for more checks. I have some trenchant views... So now DH is even better prepped to be my walking talking dynamically responsive birth plan.
wow Lotsa, that's quite a birth story! Glad it went well though and you have a healthy baby.
Thanks badguider and kitten we had a lovely but very hot pizza lunch!
Kitten & Juniper - as Fl0 is more reliable than me, she'll be in touch abt a Surrey meet next week.
Huge congratulations Lotsaand Tat
Congratulations tat and lotsa sounds all quote dramatic but glad all is well. Is it standard now to c section all breech babies? Do they not even try to support a normal birth? Intrigued ...
having spent much of the day asleep I am quite annoyed to find it is a gorgeous day outside! Might haul the whale like carcass out for a walk, especially as I weighed in at 80kg this morning, although I think that was partly a huge brekkie (nb I was 57kg in January!)
I was told at nct class 3 y ago that as times gone on more and more breech babies are delivered by CS and so fewer MWs have experience of delivering them, making it more risky than it was.
I expect that you would be supported to deliver without CS but I expect they'd prefer to avoid the risk, and so discourage you!
Not sure if it's procedure for all breech babies, but they seemed to imply that it is for all breech 1st babies
Round here there are a couple of specific MWs - one nhs and one IM you're advised to speak to if you want to birth a breech baby ad yes, few these data have the hands-on experience.
Ooh congratulations tat and lotsa, great news! And rake, hang in there, it can't be long now, surely?!?!?
Could anybody who's bf before or read up lots come to www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1843025-3day-old-bf-how-long-each-feed please??
badguide - I haven't yet, but did have a really good breast feeding session at NCT and another from my independent midwife... Both used marbles as visual representations of baby's tunmmy size to basically say, don't worry about how much baby gets in the first week, as it won't need much, which really surprised me. If you google images for newborn stomach size, it says at three days they are only 1oz (27ml) which is tiny, I'm sure you're doing fine
Ps didn't comment on the bf page as I haven't tried yet so didn't want to get criticised for offering advice when I haven't been there!
DH has had a bit of a bust up with FIL on the phone today...
Neither of us had responded to Saturday's rude (well it came across as rude) email from them accusing us of not telling them what was going on or holding something back. He had a missed call from them yesterday, then FIL called today, started off with 'so, how are things with you?'. I know it sounds innocuous but none of us are the sort of people who phone just for a chat like that, so it was def a nag for "news". It went on a bit and there was apparently an abrupt end when FIL just said well we'll leave it there and put the phone down.
I'm not sure whether DH is actually sad about it or has just put it down to the usual frustrations of the way they are, i.e. self centred and thoughtless about how anyone else is perceiving a situation.
Sorry to post such a downer.
Badguider, I was thinking of you today. I remembered you were keen to feed. I think we both gave birth on the same day. How are you getting on? I feel like he is latching on well, the rugby ball position is working well for both of us. He just doesn't seemed satisfied by me after what I think has been a good feed, he falls asleep and 2 mins later he's rooting and unsettled. I just don't know what to do. I know his tummy is tiny but I'm worried I'm starving him and he's so precious. We had a fairly traumatic and very long labour. Resulting in forceps as my waters had been gone for so long, they would only give me 90 mins to push, if I'd had another hour I know I'd have had him out but had to do what was best. Poor little guy is very sleepy and prob has a very sore head!!! About to feed but will read you breast feeding post in the morning. Hope you have an ok night.
Badguider, just read it. You're doing amazingly well. Far better than us. I think I'm going to have to top up, really don't want to. Hoping my milk will come in tomorrow.
My poor boy is so sleepy I can't feed without us being skin to skin and a lot of tickling. It's no wonder, he's been through a lot.
I'm constantly feeding and expressing to try and get my supply going. I was in hospital for 60 hours, I got 4 and a half hours sleep, no wonder I don't have a good supply. I don't know what to do and what's best for my boy!
My phone app has just sent me an update to inform me that our baby has now been born!! Which is nice. However, I don't recall giving birth and can't seem to see a child anywhere!?
Ah flip - I am sure you're not starving him. He's programmed to want to suckle loads and loads. I think it's more an issue for us than them - when do we sleep?
You must be exhausted.
Have you spoken to anybody about topping up by syringe? Are you giving him your expressed bm? Are you getting much?
You are almost certainly not starving your baby flip! That's normal newborn behaviour and as long as you want to bf try not to worry and don't too up. Google kellymom for a fab website if evidence based info which always puts my mind at rest when I start to get anxious.
In feel a bit like that too flip, I know that DS was only born this morning, but he had a big feed from just before 9:30 until just after 9:50. Then only a 5 minute feed just after 12. He has woken up since then and cried, but he just keeps going back to sleep (until I put him in cot at least)
Lotsa - both mine hardly fed the first day. Keep stripping baby off and offering breast but then rest and try not to worry.
Getting no where with expressing but I will persevere. They gave him 20 mls of formula from a cup in hospital, I always knew it was on the cards due to GD and knew feeding was the only way to stabilise his blood sugar (which only took 1 dip over 24 hrs) I was using their hospital strength Medela and got no where, so retreated to the formula. Continued to offer the breast, he would latch, suck etc and his nappies were wet/dirty. I didn't get on well with the night staff, had no sleep and when they stood over my bed with a bottle, with teat, in the middle of the night telling me he was starving and had to feed I was so tired and emotional , I didn't put up much of a fight. Huge regreat. I knew I had to get out of there if I was to have any hope of breastfeeding. They wanted me to stay another night, I had to put up such a fight to get home. Things have improved at home, still not getting much sleep but I'm coping with that and I'm far more relaxed now. After a marathon feeding session yesterday and feeling like I was getting somewhere, then an evening of cluster feeding, he was still rooting and becoming fractious. We didn't have a great night (but he's so adorable I can forgive him) He's far more alert and less mucusy now, so today we should be able to feed on demand, rather than set timers and alarms and try to wake him to feed. I'm not ready to throw the towel in especially before my milk comes in but it has crossed my mind. Midwife coming today, hopefully I'll be reassured when he's weighed and checked. She's going to look at latch etc again. My nipples are torn to shreds and I'm very sore after the traumatic labour, it really doesn't help but DH is being an amazing tower of strength.
Thanks Jenni, I'll have a look at that, might just give me the nudge to keep going.
You need to see / speak to someone flip. Did they give you numbers you can call to speak to BFing counsellors with your discharge stuff?
I can confirm the getting fractious is normal too though: DS has a few hours most night/evenings where he cries like he's starving but won't latch on very easily. It's stressful but if he's latching more or less ok the rest of the time I know he's fine. Read the Kelly mom on fussiness, I was in tears the other night but reading about it calmed me down no end.
I still think you need RL help though. If you can't find a list of numbers let me know and I'll see if the ones I have are national ones.
And just in case: you might find the person coming to weigh etc isn't that clued up on BFing. As I said I was given a ticking off and the set line as to how long DS should have been feeding despite the fact he only lost 3.7% at 5 days! Don't let them make you feel bad and if they aren't helpful enough find someone else, preferably who only does BFing support...
Well done flip - you are doing brilliantly!!!
If its any reassurance my ds was "fractious" most of last night and its nothing to do with the availability of my milk (there's lots and I can hand express) or his latch which is fine when he wants to!)
We had some really horrible times when he was not hungry so I ended up giving him my pinkie finger to suck and I think we will buy a dummy today. But only offer it after he's eaten from both sides.
A dummy is unlikely to be for you in your circs but I just wanted to let you know that "fractious" doesn't always mean hungry. I am sure ds was not hungry last night.
Flip sending you and
Your experience with the hospital MWs sounds awful.
Have you thought about posting a thread on the BF / Bottle feeding board? There are some massively experienced and highly qualified people on that board. They can reassure or sign post you in the right direction for RL support.
Sorry if you already have.
Big well done to all you breastfeeding ladies, sounds like you're all doing brilliantly...especially flip good on you for sticking with it
rake sorry your PILs are causing you stress - that's just what you need right now isn't it, grown up relatives acting like spoilt stroppy teenagers I'm annoyed on your behalf!
Likewise, many of us have all this to come and I'm sure you'll all be pros by then
Rake don't let it bother you, it's really good that your DH is fending them off, as many of us find our DHs don't notice their parents odd behaviour I do think as ppl get older they loose a bit of perspective on how busy real life can be when your preparing for a baby-I've just had the same with my Aunt calling every day trying to arrange to meet when we're desperately trying to sort things out before baby arrives!
kim I had my app do weekly updates for a while but it wound me up by week 14 when it kept telling me how much better I felt at that stage - did I? Really? So it got turned off
NCT BF Helpline- 0300 330 0771
NHS BF Helpline- 0300 100 0212
Well done breast feeding ladies, if it is any help everything I have heard is that is it hard work to start with as you and the baby learn how it all works. flip sounds like a dreadful hospital experience, if you can be bothered make sure you complain. Midwives are supposed to support you with breastfeeding etc post birth if you want to, and do everything they can to help you establish feeding.
The nct has a national helpline phone number which links to local breastfeeding supporters who can either talk things through on the phone or if they are local come out to see you.
Also, def try the mumsnet board.
Phew! Survived another night
My goodness the nights are tough.
Discovered last night that once ds has fed loads on both sides and still crying he can be slightly calmed down by sucking my finger. Partic during nappy changes which he hates. He won't take dh's finger though and hes the one doing nappies so i can sleep. So going out for a dummy today - to try when he's really fed but still upset. Apparently the stats (cochrane review) is it doesn't have ti harm bf.
badguider I reckon this is definitely one of those times where you throw the books out the window and go with whatever works for you and your DS. And if DS wand a dummy then that's what he should get - sounds like you'll all be happier for it
Ladies, you are all amazing, thank you for your support. Expecting midwife any minute, hopefully all is well and she'll check latch etc. our local breastfeeding group has moved (we're pretty rural) and I'm very sore so don't fancy leaving the house. Today I'm going to make some calls, see who can offer help or if anyone can visit us. I'm feeling far more determined and positive that it's not causing harm thanks to you wonderful people.
Badguider I read a fab book called Blissful baby expert and she suggests using a dummy after feed otherwise baby will use you as a dummy and you'll become sore. I don't think I should try it yet as I think I need all the stimulation my breasts can get. Praying my milk comes in, it will give me a bit more hope. He's just so beautiful and worth every second. I'd like to think DH and I are still fairly relaxed and not getting too uptight. My parents arrive on Friday, can't wait, feel a million miles apart from them right now. Mum is planning menus and to do all my chores for me so I can feed, she's brilliant. Sounds like DH isn't pulling his weight, he most definitely is but I can see he's getting tired. Thanks again, I'm ready to take on today and feed like a demon!!!
Glad you're feeling more positive flip. I find its the middle of the night that's the worst: I convince myself I must be doing something wrong
Do let us know who you find most helpful though so we can know who's best to call when we need it!
My boy is still resolutely in frank breech so my consultant persuaded me to try for an external cephalic version tomorrow. Feeling a bit nervous about it! I've read the RCOG guidelines and the actual statistics, which make it sound quite safe, but it's still hard to ignore personal stories that ended up going tragically wrong.
On a totally different point, I had not yet gotten around to pruning my pubes and my (very handsome) consultant decided to do a strep b swab on the spot.. most embarrassing. Definitely purchasing some Veet today and getting the shears out.
Hello everyone. I've been hovering around the pregnancy boards for ages. Due on 19th Sept so wanted to come and join in. First baby. Getting nervous now.
Just had the news that my baby has flipped back to back, just like DD was
Gutted after presentation scan showed baby in an optimum position 2 weeks ago.
So I have now got an ELCS booked for 41 weeks and feel all up in the air now about a VBAC. Just wish I had a crystal ball and knew what the outcome would finally be.
hiya pinkapple- Think you might have been on ttc thread last year with myself and dietcoke? Hope you're well! PM me if you'd like to joint he facebook group too!
yes flo I remember you. I luckily wasn't there v long. Would love to join the fb group I'll send you my details if I can figure out how to pm
Hi, been doing a lot of looking but not much posting of late. It's lovely hearing about everyones new arrivals and the pictures on FB are just adorable. Hope all the new mums and dads and babies are keeping well and those who are still waiting (like me) aren't getting to fed up.
Been to see the MW today 38+5 and baby is floating around very free and happy - head down (which is a relief after being breech at 37 weeks) but not even the slightest bit engaged. I on the other hand, would quite like baby to make an appearance as I am getting increasingly grumpy and feeling more aches and pains. The MW said that chances of baby coming anytime soon are very slim . Trying to enjoy the last few days/weeks of being pregnant for what I think will be the last time but finding it tough. Planning on taking it easy tomorrow and hope to do some baking - nothing like eating cake to cheer me up!
Hi all, welcome pinkapple.
I had my 37 week appointment with mw today, and she thinks the baby is too big so off to hospital on Monday for a scan. Typical I forked out 100 quid to have a private one last week that estimated the baby to be 7lbs but I didn't mention that to mw as any chance to see the baby is gladly recieved!!
She also found +1 protein in my pee, I've been resisting the urge to consult Dr Google, any one any similar experience? Have to drop in another sample in the morning.
Mw also reckons baby is too far on the right, she said the prefer left or centred? Any experience? How do I get it to move?!
Hey all, I haven't posted since waaay back in the beginning but it's great to hear about all the new babies!! Congrats all around!
Peregrin I had an ECV last week at 38 weeks, and it was SO not as bad as I thought it was going to be. It was successful and took all of 30 seconds! And this is my first baby, and I have pretty strong abs
I think the risks are less than 1% overall, (trust me I was worried too, but was keen to try and avoid CS) and if the doc who does it knows their stuff they can usually tell straightaway if baby is going to co-operate or not. Mine was frank breech. I just did yoga breathing and honestly it was fine. They monitored baby before and after for quite awhile, all was well, and brought me and DH tea and toast. Good luck for whatever you decide though! I know how frustrating a stubborn little breechling is..
Welcome new ladies/old posters! Our group is fab.
Just a quickie:
DD2 has only had 1 wet nappy all day so far. It's only day 3 and ridiculously hot here, and she has done a frankly quite astoundingly huge poo today, but is anyone else's baby not weeing much in the hot weather?
EmmaDee have you looked on the Spinning Babies website? It explains the different presentations and exercises to try shifting them.
From what I understand, baby's back bone curving down the front/LHS of your abdomen is optimal.
No-one has told my baby though who is in the dreaded OP or back to back As was DD 3 years ago, sigh!
Poppet, thanks for posting your experience and for the reassurance. Good to hear it worked for you! Hope your little one stays head down now, and nicely engaged.
EmmaDee, in my antenatal course we were taught that the baby lying on the right typically means longer labour. If I remember correctly, they supposedly rotate around to the left during labour as that way they fit better into the birth canal due to its shape.
SGH I only know what is says in the Mothers and Others guide which is around 6 wees in 24 hours by day 5, and a couple of yellow poos each day.
Not sure about the hot weather but presumably baby would be taking more feeds to make up for that, plus I'm sure that the make up of BM changes in warmer weather to take account also.
Although to be frank, it's easy for a nb's wee to get 'lost' in a nappy and or lost in the poo, so he may have gone a few more times? Have you compared the weight of his used nappy to a dry one to see if a wee is hiding in there?
SGJ was the pee really dark? That would be a sign of a dehydration...
Sgj mine didn't go more tan once/twice on day 3 but tbh think triple is bang on, think his got 'lost' in the giant nappies!
Re bf, my LO is feeding really well once he latches (day 11) but it is really hurting me, am sure my positioning is all wrong (more on one side than the other) which means my latch hurts.... He gets it right on the right 8/10 times, but only 1/10 times on the left. Any advice gratefully received, am feeding through gritted teeth/tears sometimes. Am doing cradle on right and rugby on left but have tried variations. He's so wiggly!
Just sent u a Facebook message with some dehydration info....
Hi Ladies, I've not posted for a very long time but just wanted to say it has been lovely reading all the good news. Sorry to hear of those struggling with BF. I struggled with DD1 and was too stubborn/bloody minded to ask for help and then regretted it after lots of my friends later went on to attend lovely BF groups and had lovely BF support workers. Despite my difficulties 1st time I plan to BF DC2 and will seek advice/attend group if necessary.
To those of you who have already given birth or remember from a previous time - when you had your 'show' was it pinkish in colour? I really can't remember from 1st time round if I had a show at all.
Can I ask a silly question to those who have now been through it - I'm getting the funny feelings most nights that I initially thought were me reacting to the head moving in my pelvis, but they actually seem to pulse/serge down from low bump until they cause a sort of involuntary pelvic floor tense as they move lower? Tend to feel sick at the same time. Could they be v. early contractions that will come and go for a while? Or as I originally thought - a squirmy baby?
My baby Watson the right because I had an anterior placenta on the left soon thing I could do about it.
My labour wasn't too long though it did have an early bit without progress but fast once we really got going.
Hi everyone. I've not posted in aaaaages! My little man will be a week old tomorrow. Actually it's today now!
Whizz, my show was red last time and totally clear this time. Last time my waters broke at the same time, but like a slow puncture but i was only 35+3 so I was on antibiotics until I naturally a week later. This time waters broke 3 days after show and I was induced the next day after nothing happened.
Labour was 6 hours and intensely painful but so worth it as my boy is gorgeous.
I love your name poppetty. Ace word, it's microwave isn't it?
Oooh purple I've been having something similar. I guess if baby is getting engaged, there will be some unusual feelings and mine have been punctuated by nausea too.....
Would be good to know if they are something to take note of or try to ignore they don't really hurt but they are enough to stop me sleeping and seem to make baby kick and its def aligned to when I'm feeling full and/or sick. The embarrassing bit is sometimes it almost feels nice which my hubby laughs at!
I have a symptom update, stardate 41+2... Mucus (clear) since Monday, tingly boobs Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, the usual BH pattern, but a slight slowdown in baby movements. Not to a worrying level, just seems like there finally isn't enough space in there to party. So we added a dtd to the mix this morning, let's see whether there's any notable response...
For those of you with babies already, do you think you can connect to anything you did? Dtd, curry, bouncing about etc?
If your cervix is ripe then you could try nipple massage. Apparently it needs to be for an hour ( ) a day to really work. But I did it far less and think it helped both times. It stimulates contractions in the same way as breast feeding.
Pineapple - you need to eat the equivalent of 7 fresh pineapples so more likely to get the trots!
Sex - apparently there's something in sperm that start the process but again it's quantity, orgasms are also supposed to start contractions so I guess quality counts too!
Binary Thanks! It is indeed microwave. I don't even use one (nor am I Welsh) but I've always loved that word!
Purple I get that too! Must be what fl0b0t says.
Oh and congrats on your little boy Binary!
Thank you! Same here actually, not welsh and not a microwave owner but love that word! I like the welsh for rabbit too which sounds like crooninging. Probably spelt totally differently tho!
rake - a slow, relaxing professional back and shoulder massage.
I came out blissed out and labour pretty much started right then.
Thanks fl0 and poppetty
badguider a massage you say... mmmm nice idea. Would you say a stretch and sweep was a sort of massage?! Coz that's what I ended up having after phoning the midwife advice number when I realised I was getting these "BH" contractions every few minutes!
So, let's see whether that kicks anything into gear
Good luck rake!! Curry gave me belly ache, dtd was pretty much out the question. Had the odd bit of pineapple. Had a stretch and sweep at 38+1, 2 days later waters broke. Could be a coincidence, I dunno but here we are!
Congratulations to all with lovely babies already I was awake at 4 (again) because of heartburn. Am now 4 days over. If anyone says " have you not had that baby yet?" again to me today, I am within my rights to kill them dead, aren't I?
Nothing happened overnight at Rake Towers... Gave bump instructions to have at least a few hours sleep with me to build up our energy for today. Regular BH contractions have started again this morning just like last night. No waters gone so I'm not up against an induction ticking clock at all.
Two c-sections and a broken waters elsewhere in the gang according to fb this morning!
No joy for me either
Yesterday, had periody type aches in my lower bump and thighs. Last night in bed, tightenings that were keeping me awake. But took 2 paracetamol, got a few hours kip, and now nothing, nada, zilch.
Sigh, shattered today and DDs been up since 6. Poor DH resorted to the sofa last night and didn't get much sleep so he's knackered too. He's gone off to work. At least DD and I are snuggled up watching Peter Rabbit
michaelcaine I was having that problem...have now stopped eating after 6.30pm and that seems to have put a stop to it.
Sorry to dive in with my own thing, but my belly button and the surrounding area has gone numb. Is this okay? Nothing hurts or anything but it's a bit weird!
Mine too Hetty, it did it last time round as well. I think it's as our belly gets stretched. Bigger area, same number of nerve ending, so "reception" gets worse. I did get feeling back after last time. I think also the fact that the skin inside our belly button is now covering some of the surface doesn't help. I doubt there were many nerves in that bit to start with.
Thanks MrsM, pregnancy is just a world of new experiences!
Triple and rake, I feel your pain, or lack thereof. Now 40 + 4. Have had pretty much constant lower back pain since about 5 this morning. Trying not to read too much into it. Don't want to take any painkillers in case it goes away. I need to believe that something might be happening. Induction is now booked for 15th, which still seems far enough away for me to ignore, it ain't gonna happen(!). My mum has offered to take the kids to her house tonight (she'd be having them if I was in labour). DH is now looking forward to a child-free weekend and has instructed me not to go into labour until after that!
Went to the bf clinic today and the wee one clearly has tongue tie (as does dh - though id never noticed) which he was managing with ok till my milk came in but now restricts him getting latched, particularly on the bigger side.
Giving him expressed milk top ups for now after each gentle bf attempt and appt will be next Friday.
Glad they were able to spot the TT Badguider and glad they're sorting it for you.
Glad the TT is getting sorted- sounds like it happens a lot?
Damn painful BH across the top of the bump again this afternoon (but I did get to meet a gorgeous 1 week old baby of a lady from my antenatal class).
Ohhh do you think meeting the baby brought them on? They do say meeting new babies is a good way to get yours moving
Who knows- he was super cute!! :-) had to spend the afternoon in the bath! Feeling better now though...
I had a cuddle with a gorgeous 4 week old baby this morning - was hoping it would get those hormones flowing! Am going to have a v v hot takeaway curry tonight.
Goulash for lunch with extra chilli sauce, pad Thai for dinner with extra chilli sauce.
Induction "discussion" appointment at hosp on Sunday morning.
OUT OUT OUT!
Congrats on the TT fix, bg, and whoo hoo yay! for people with new symptoms..
Can someone point me in the direction of the Facebook group please? Would love to see pictures of everyone's babies and of course share mine.
40 + 2 today and no signs or labour symptoms as yet! Getting very stabby (knitting needle up the whats-it) type pains again! But ive had them quite a lot in the past so nothing new there. Anyone else getting similar pains?
Binary - inbox me your FB email address and real name and ill add you to the group. It's secret so that's the only way to find it.
Sounds positive kim
I'm now in my second hot bath of the day (post paracetamol) as I'm having my second bout in 6 hours of awful excruciating bh pains top of bump. Nothing can make it go away ( tried birthing ball, standing, sitting, all fours, yoga. ...) no other proper symptoms just pointless angry pain!
I'm going to need a trip to the library on Monday as I'm going to run out of books!
I've pmed you jennimoo, thanks.
Fl0 are you sure it's bh? I didn't think that was supposed to be painful. Could it be early labour?
thats the frustrating thing flobot, im not sure its a sign of anything really. Ive been getting these stabby sensations 'down below' for about 4 or 5 weeks now I reckon. I was under the impression these were due to baby getting lower and getting engaged but baby was already 2/5 engaged when I last went to see the mw.. Im still getting really sharp jabs though. Anyone else noticed these?
Morning. Still here. Still grumpy. No twinges. The only stabby thing round here is my temper.
Morning Rake, me too. <hands over chocolate and a spare pitch fork!>
My stupid, stupid back has decided that now is a good time to pop out of allignment (old injury) so I'm waddling and limping. Getting lots of back/hip/bump pains, but nothing even remotely hopeful, all just from being stretched to my limits, and my stupid back!
I'm getting the stabby pains, have been off and on for a few weeks.
I thought it was baby trying to engage, but stilll on the brim at 39w so clearly not!
Flo are u getting any other things like blurred vision, dizziness, swelling, headaches etc? Pain at top of bump can be a symptom of pre-eclampsia...give the mw a call if ur not sure. Better to be safe...
Oh how helpful. My stabby index has just climbed a few notches. MIL has informed us it is her birthday on Monday and they are going away on holiday on Friday, so baby had better make an appearance soon smiley emoticon no pressure la la la.
Rake, I so feel your pain. I was told off because BIL is down from London and he "is disappointed that he can't see the baby". Oh I am so very sorry not to have given birth at his convenience!
Oh and Kim yes, I am getting loads of that jabbing pain. Thoroughly unpleasant!
<fist-bumps michaelcaine in solidarity> yeah. Coz it's all about the wider family's convenience isn't it!
I do feel guilty and churlish for two reasons - this thread is full of happy news and people excited to meet their babies and getting to grips with the early days of BF-ing etc and I don't want to cast a shadow on that, so sorry to all the lovelies that I am being so mardy! But secondly, the PILs are the only people badgering us for news and also the only ones who seem to be assuming they will visit straight away. I am quite tempted to write back today and tell them to re-set their expectations about when they see baby because there is with every day that goes by there is for various reasons an increasing possibility that I or baby won't be up for visitors by the time they go on holiday, no matter what day baby is born. In fact I think I will try to write that, as kindly as I can. I wouldn't want baby to arrive tonight for example and them then to feel that we were punishing them with no invite to visit, for having nagged and badgered.
Oh and a third reason I feel guilty/churlish... This one's a bit of an AIBU...! I really don't want baby to arrive on MIL's birthday and spend his/her whole childhood being expected to phone and talk to an increasingly old lady on their birthday. Birthdays are for kids, right?
Couple of monster BHs this afternoon so far. I just raise my eyebrow at them now in an "is that the best you can do?" sort of way. Braxton Schmaxtons.
thanks ready- I've been worrying a bit about the same thing!
I've got swelly hands and feet, slight fuzzy vision but no problems with protein in urine or BP issues...?!
binary not really all that sure- MW said BH last time i told her about it, but had 4 episodes in 10 days of it
Will chat to her at my next appt unless anything gets worse....
My parents have taken the boys for the weekend so that I can have a baby in peace. That's the theory.... No pressure then. Absolutely nothing doing. Barely a braxton hix. Baby just doesn't feel low enough to be coming anytime soon, despite being 40+5! Have spent all afternoon traipsing round town. Have discovered that DH loves buying little girl baby clothes, that came as a surprise. Aww! Still we are making the most of a child-free weekend. Went to the cinema last night, out for lunch today and just about to go round to friends for dinner.
Guys you do NOT need to apologise at all for anything!
This was always going to be a funny thread this month with everybody at such different stages but even through the current breast obsession I can still send you my sympathies
I am at people getting pissed off at having to wait... Like baby is going to because your bil has arrived... Grrrrr....
Luckily I haven't had that.. But my mum hasn't registered in her brain that i am nine months pregnant and asking me to run lots of errands, carry loads of heavy washing etc. then asked am I going out tonight??? Er... No... Only place I want to go is the labour ward.
Ahh Rake I hope you get the natural birth you want ut completely understand why you don't want baby to share its birthday with its grandparent. It would be a bit rubbish.
I feel that I'm in this lull too, still got time to go, but seeing everyone's lovely pics, I start to feel jelous. At the same time, I had my first raspberry leaf tea today, within about 2 mins of starting it, I got severe BH! Thought it might be a coincidence, but I've had none since... Now I'm wondering if I should have it again or not - I want the baby but still scared stupid of labour!
For rake : dear mil, I understand you are excited, but at the moment I am anxious and stressed about the fact that I am now over due and am facing the possibility of not being able to have the birth I wished for, and potentially medical induction. As such, every message and phone call you make asking about the babys arrival is adding to my anxiety and is really not welcome. So please, just stop. We will let you know when the baby arrives safely. love rake.
That should do it feel your pain, I can't imagine having such insensitive in laws.
I did get a phone call from my mum this afternoon which started me: 'hello', mum: 'are you in labour?' apparently she had had some premonition!? Btw ...no vague signs of labour at 38+6
Aah Rake feel for you, they sound awful.
Rake, I can sympathise. Both my sons have been early. Ds1 was 36+4 and ds2 was 39 weeks. Both times my heart was set on a natural birth at a birth centre and it's not happen dye to being too early or needing to be induced this time when my waters broke but no contractions.
Inductions aren't too bad tho and you should still be able to have a relatively normal/natural birth. If you've got any questions about drip inductions I'm more than happy to answer them.
I'd quite happily take an induction right now. Just fed up of being pregnant and all the stuff that comes with. Really need to find me some more patience.
MIL is coming over today, and will probably have words with bump about turning up promptly. She's had 4 herself, this will be the 8th GC, so she's not one for putting on any pressure on me, will just do it to make me laugh. I'm quite lucky when it comes to ILS. My sister, however, has already started her chain of phonecalls.
Baby here, at home perfectly as planned. More details later
Brilliant rake - so so pleased for you! Well done!!!
well done rake! looking forward to hearing the details.
Congratulations rake! So pleased it all turned out as planned x
so who else is eith me in the over due club now then? ive sort of lost count and I cant open the spreadsheet on my phone.
Also, quick question. If you go over due and get induced, are you still allowed a water birth??
Kim - I think it depends how much help you have whether and you need constant monitoring. As well as what your MW / doctor says!
Me, Kim, six days over today, and symptoms add up to a fat lot of nothing.
cheers jennimoo, ive just been googling it but getting very mixed answers so thought it might be best to ask on here! im really hoping I can at least try the pool for pain relief, even if I cant stay in there for the birth.
Mynameisnot - I feel very much the same as you. Im 4 days over now and like you say, no symptoms/signs as yet. Im currently sat on my gym ball whilst drinking my Raspberry Leaf tea! Come on baby leavy
Kim I'm now 11 days over. Yes, 11. Booked for an induction on Tues - should've been wed but the hospital are already too busy that day. Doesn't bode well but never mind. I asked the midwife about whether a water birth would still be possible and she said I'll have to ask when I get there and it depends on the consultant. Aaarrrrgggghhh I just want him out now!
And congratulations Rake, glad you got the birth you wanted, and before tomorrow!
kim - where I gave birth they don't do induction in the MLU where the birth pools are but I think there are "baths" in some of the CLU rooms.
Not sure they're keen on you being in them for long if at all if induced due to the IV and cannula and monitoring pads. I think you need to ask your specific hospital.
Of course, you might be induced with pessary only or by breaking your waters and not need the IV drip?
Poor you everyone overdue! Spend my life silently Ss and I'm a)not due for ten days and b) have spent the last 8 months telling myself baby will be late and that either way it will arrive before the end of September! And yet still every twinge elicits ^baby arrival thoughts!
Still enjoying maternity leave.... Today we watched telly, I had a long and luxurious shower and then lay about in my dressing gown reading baby and pregnancy books and painting my nails badly. Cat asleep at my feet. Bliss.
Self indulgent post alert...
Nipped in for a spot of monitoring today as baby had been a bit quiet over the last day or so. After a bit of a flurry of activity when they thought baby might suddenly be breach, I was treated to an impromptu scan which as showed not only head down, but LOA!! After baby being back to back on Friday I'm so thrilled!! Bring on the VBAC
Will catch up on the thread now!
Hello, want a birth story then?
so at 10ish went to bed with a stack of print outs about induction pros and cons and a red pen... Felt nice and empowered. Asked DH for a massage and he correctly surmised I needed more of the kissing and nuzzling than undoing knotted muscles. Lights out 11, lights back on 2am when a couple of contractions woke me. Called triage for the to send the on call mw.
DH then bustled around double-cleaning the kitchen and we started to fill the pool. I sat on the birthing ball and put the TENS on. Two midwives turned up, lovely both of them. Gently suggested positions now and again but mostly just sat and listened, writing all the time. I was 4cm at 4am and she did a sweep to help move things along. Got in the pool about 5 when the TENS wasn't cutting it any more.
My god the water is amazing. Do it if you possibly can! I had to get out a couple of times for the loo and the difference was phenomenal. In the pool I could just breathe as deeply as possible and that dealt with pain completely. Outside I was moaning and groaning as well and moans do nothing for pain.
8cm at about 7.40. From then on I started thinking about pushing. I asked what G&A would do for me, and they said it would do what my breathing was doing, but might slow things down by making me spaced. So I thought sod it, massive deep breaths are working let's stick with them.
Can't deny the pushing hurt but there was only an hour of it, the quickest passing hour of the whole morning, and it wasn't every cx either, sometimes I got a breather. Waters went pop with a bit of meconium about 8.30, that was a relief! Head out at 9.06 right when I would have been in the waiting room to be told about induction, ha! And the rest followed by 9.16 in three pushes I think. 1st degree tear. 3.96kg girly.
Cord cut after a while of pulsing not completely finished but because it wasn't very long it was inhibiting me moving much. Got out of the pool for third stage, felt very dizzy. From then on it went a little tiny bit Pete Tong, and at 11ish I went to hosp under blue lights, had cannula, catheter, epidural and a sort of a clear out of a bit of membrane and placenta. Tear severity revised to 2nd degree and repaired. Currently on recovery bit with sensation slowly returning to my legs and gorgeous snuggly baby on my chest. Unlikely to be discharged before tomorrow so have booked the last remaining private room rather than suffer PN ward (haven't slept since 2am and anything I ate I vommed, until a couple of syrup pancakes an hour ago).
It's all good though. I had exactly the birth I wanted, then a bit of an adventure and all looked after and stitched up nicely. Now I just need to ignore the binging blood pressure machine and doze properly!!
Wow, Rake, that's an awesome story. Thanks for letting us know!
I am SO sick of waiting around for this baby to turn up. I've posted before how bored I am - thanks for the suggestions btw. I'm still at a loose end a great deal of the time though. I'm usually very patient, but 9 months has been a very long slow burn.
Winge over- back to watching the grass grow.
I wasn't able to use the birth pool as I was induced. Really wanted to try it tho as had a bath last time in the early stages and thought my contractions had stopped as it was so effective. I think as others have said, if its via pessary or waters being broken it may be different. My waters had broken in the previous 24 hours so it might have been due to infection risk and also that I was induced via the dreaded cannula drip. The midwife laughed at me as I gasped when I saw the needle - I'd forgotten how long they are! Not too painful tho, just annoying and uncomfortable. Well worth it for the end result though. .
Rake, we were obviously not destined to be delivery date buddies but actual delivery buddies instead! Almost all of your story matches mine, including gender, and even down to time of birth! So pleased you got your watery home birth, it's lovely. Sorry you had to go in to hospital but at least it'll all be over and done with rater than you having to go in, in pain, and be generally prodded and poked down below for several days post delivery. Fingers crossed you get some sleep and enjoy those baby cuddles x
Congratulations rake and I hope things are all going ok in hospital.
In the far less dramatic world of breast feeding for beginners we seem to be back on track....?
Since lunchtime Friday when we got a tongue tie diagnosis we have been expressing a bit off at each feed to soften the breasts, then offering the right breast (almost always refused) then the left which he'd take for about ten mins, then topping up with the expressed milk.
A few hours ago he suddenly started accepting the right and left and being too full for a top-up!
I can also see his tongue moving more and wonder if he's somehow stretching the tie??
Anyway, this could all change again at the next feed but I thought I'd just share for those having difficulty to show it can pick up suddenly and unexpectedly.
I have a baby! Beautiful baby girl, 8 pounds 10 ounces, born 5 days early after waters broke, pink show first. Told to come in just for a swab and induction to be booked, but then contractions started. Was put on monitor and her heart rate was 180 and my temp was up. Doctors called, I was told I would need an emergency c section but fortunately all settled with fluid drips and paracetamol - then was left to it - but massive pain on gas and air - totally went off my head, vomiting everywhere, unresponsive etc. thought I was going to die, no respite between contractions ?! Ended up begging for an epidural, did not even come close to managing without it! Then dilated slowly, got to 10cm eventually and waited an hour for head to come down, then pushed, baby's heart rate was decelerating with each contraction so they did a ventouse delivery and an episiotomy and then for final stage cord came off in the doctors hand and had to go to theatre for manual removal of placenta! (Boy was I glad I'd had the epidural!!). On post natal ward all night with no sleep and screaming babies but home late the next day with my beautiful baby! no sleep since but hey ho, all worth it!!
Now THAT is a truly epic birth story! You absolute champ! Massive congratulations and enjoy every minute with your little girl.
Congrats to the latest mummies and babies! All good chez barra, have health visitor tomorrow, fingers well and truly crossed that DD has gone back up to her birth weight!
Congratulations rake and ready and thanks for sharing. And fingers crossed badguider that he's solved it on his own, clever boy! We're in the middle of a week 3 growth spurt here, Fraser is having a huge feed at least every 2 hrs, day and night and can't be beyond sniffing distance of a boob.. I feel like a dairy cow with enough milk to feed an army of babies! I can almost see him growing before my eyes though so it must be worth it...cake is now my saviour!
Congratulations Rake and Amiready. So happy for you.
Hope all is well fl0. Phone the MW. They won't mind.
Thanks for posting the birth stories. It's not just helpful for me but also for DH.
Does/has anyone else got a reception blanket? My lentil weaving SIL sent me one because they are not as "dangerous" as ones in the hospital. What does she mean?
DH has (almost) finished installing the solar panel so the baby can come whenever because that's the last major bit of work on this house. Hurrah!
Massive congratulations to rake and ready! STILL nothing doing here at 40+6. Grr! Zero symptoms! Just had THE biggest spider run across my bare foot. Eek! I actually screamed. You'd think the scare I got might put me into labour. But probably not... Not looking forward to taking the kids to school and nursery and having everyone point out to me that I've still not had the baby!
Congratulations on all the new arrivals since I last posted - and commiserations to those still waiting (though if I'd have known how much easier even late, uncomfortable, pregnancy is than having a newborn I would have been a bit less impatient, FWIW).
DD is now 11days and this is the first second I've had to come and try to catch up. How are all you other new mums managing?! I've never been so tired in my life, which makes everything feel impossible. DD doing well though - managed not to lose any of her birth weight and has carried on gaining, but feel like I'm feeding ALL the time. Second-timers: when does it get easier??
Congratulations Rake & amiready sounds like you both went through the wars a bit but so pleased to hear you & little ones are all well
Mooster - most people say that it gets easier after 2 weeks though obviously it's different for everyone. I think as soon as they start to be awake more during the day (eyes open, looking around, looking at you) then they start to sleep for longer between feeds at night. When that happens you should start to feel more human!
Congratulations to all the new mummies! I hope you're settling into motherhood and everything that goes with it.
I'm still resolutely pregnant at 39+3. I reeeaaalllyyy want Littley to arrive this week.
I've done everything I was planning to do with my mat leave - freezer full, nursery finished, bags packed and house clean(ish) and tidy. My mum is back from her trip now and all the other ladies in my nct group have had their babies - last one arrived yesterday morning. Only me left now! Come on baby - whenever your ready!
Sorry triple, I missed your post to start with. Good news on baby getting into the right place.
Mooster, I found the first 2-3 weeks hard. Might even have just been the first 2, it's a bit blurry! After that it kind of clicked, and I started really, really enjoying it. I could see that DD was thriving, and despite the lack of sleep being hard going, I started feeling like I was doing a good job. The first time I thought "hey, I AM getting this right" was fab, and it made everything else easier to deal with. Also finally realising that I wasn't supposed to be able to do everything (baby, cleaning, laundry, cooking, hosting guests, writing thank you cards!) Feel a bit silly when I look back and think about how much effort I wasted on pointless stuff. Guests can make their own tea, and do the washing up while they're there!
Congrats amiready .... hope you're ready!
I am aware i have a couple of messages which Annoyingly I can't sort on my phone, will try to sort on the pc later.
Think things are starting to move for me at 39 weeks. .. pop and gush this morning and I think my waters went. Having mild contractions like period pains. Husband on his way back from work now. ....! Help!
Eeep, exciting news fl0! Fingers firmly crossed for you. Think one of the messages was probably from me, you kindly added me to the FB group but I don't seem to be able to access it yet.
Obviously I'd appreciate it if you could sort it before you into established labour
Yay fl0 - fingers crossed for you!
My absolute top tip is to try the yoga breathing and concentrate on relaxing dilating thoughts. Sounds v hippy but was what worked for me (after I wasted a night being too excited/tense).
Kilkers - ill approve you, I messaged flo to check you were legit...
Hi ladies, congrats to everyone who has given birth so far sending good vibes to those in labour, nothing happening here 38 & 2 here and only thing happening in back pain but no contractions hopefully wont go until next week as dh started a new job today an will be nights all week �� just my luck she will come when he is in work.
Stressful times! Went to mothercare to buy sleep and nursing bras, and the only assisstant on the shop floor was a teenage boy. Great start, I thought. Picked up nursing bras in the size I've been wearing throughout pregnancy (38DD) and tried one on. It fitted fine, but I thought I'd ask at the till what I was supposed to do as presumably, your boobs get bigger when your milk comes in. She said they wouldn't fit me then, so got a lady to come and take me to the fitting room to be measured. Now, I hate being touched, and I take my clothes off for noone, so this was always going to be horrendous but I dutifully stood to be measured, and she came up with 40B, despite measuring my underbust as 36". Tried it on, and it was basically a big saggy mess so just said thanks for your help, I think I'll buy bottles instead. Now I'm sobbing in the car park as I have a real thing about bras and boobs, and am now contemplating not breast feeding at all as I don't know how I'll get over the embarrassment of it all, plus I now can't go back into mothercare for bras seeing as I just flounced out in floods of tears. Sorry the essay, but I don't l know what to do now
Very excited/emotional at the thought of u getting ur baby soon Flo! But before u get carried away with contractions etc...what did u get up to yesterday?? Any food/activity u think may have triggered it? I'll try anything after Wednesday....
Oh bless you!!
I'm of the opinion that Mother care don't make bras designed for normal humans.
Get yourself somewhere like M&S where someone can measure you properly and have a proper range of sizes.
How many weeks are you?
I think the idea is that you should be able to do up the bra on the tightest band setting to allow some growth room. Plus the cups should have some give in them, but they shouldn't be baggy...
Sounds like the assistant had no clue. I feel your pain, hate bra shopping especially when the stupidly small range of sizes in stock makes you feel abnormal when you're not.
Thanks triple, I don't see how she can say that I'd come down 3 cup sizes and up a back size! Have people gone up lots of sizes for their nursing bras or generally stay the same?
I think if they put you up a back size they start you with at least one cup size smaller. But measuring is just the start, they usually have to change it from there and try you with several sizes until they get it right.
I'm usually a 34 back and was feeling a bit put out when my maternity bras were fitted as a 38. But they were so much more comfy that I soon got over it!
Baby news! Oran Marius born 3.43 am weighing 9 lb 8 oz at 39+ 6. Very quick labour and another lovely water birth. We're just over the moon with him and can't wait till he meets his big sister this afternoon! Think I win the prize for the biggest baby so far!
We are boats - I measured myself and ordered online. Ill post the links to how the MN bra intervention thingamys works later on then you can order some to be delivered. Mothercare were talking rubbish, you definitely need a 36 band if that's what you're measuring. Unfortunately m and s do the adding 4 inches too.
How to measure yourself.
Thread I started asking for bra ideas
Thanks for the help, I've settled on a 36DD which was comfortable around the ribs on the furthest hooks, but had a bit of breathing room in the cups for when the milk comes in. I probably need to get over my aversion to being seen/touched, as I'm being induced on Wednesday and I take it I can't stay fully clothed with my pants on for that!
Sorry for interrupting all of the labour and baby news, and good luck to everyone currently awaiting their babies x
weareboats just realised you are my due date twin, best of luck for Wednesday!
Thanks geese! Getting super nervous about the induction, I was hoping to go until the 18th but alas it's not to be ;)
Weareboats, I second jenni's suggestions. If you're a 36" measurement, there's no way you're a 40B. A 40" band won't offer you any support at all, but will quite possibly hurt, and make you look like you have a fat back! (woeful voice of experience there!)
I will be sticking to my night nursing bras, and vest tops with hidden support until they've calmed down a bit. Then I will be re-measuring myself, and either trying on everything in M&S, or ordering a heap online, in a range of sizes.
I hate bra shopping at the best of times, so I'm not looking forward to it at all, but I will manage to completely avoid being mauled by mis-trained sales assistants!
ty for the second link jenni, will be having a good read of that later.
Im glad youve got sorted, weareboats. Felt awful for you reading about your experience
I don't trust anyone to measure me so was so pleased to find that the measuring method in the link seems to work for me. I have gone up 1 inch / cup size since pre birth and my back's stayed the same.
boats I have nothing to add except my support ... sorry... bras and boobs are emotive issues. I'm usually 32FF and I've gone up to a 38 which was very depressing and I cried. Now I'm wearing soft vest style bras which come in sm, med, lrg. £5 in Asda. I have never spent so little on a bra! Much better even though I resisted through almost the whole pregnancy because I thought it would be enough support it is far better than wearing ill fitting wires. Take heart. Recommendation for nursing bras has been Bravado which operate the s, m, l system.
My Mothercare sleep bras came in dress sizes too, which conveniently side steps the whole matter!
The trouble with getting yourself fitted wherever you go is that it's the luck if the drawer who you get measured by isn't it?
Bloody boobs! I'm going to see how my existing maternity bras with nursing clips serve me when the initial engorgement has settled down and then if a shopping trip is in order I will venture back out then.
Mooster I actually love you a
lot bit for that post. Also 11 days in, knackered and worrying how I'll cope after DH goes back to work. No thank you cards written, I fucked up bread in the breadmaker, and DT1 has decided that she doesn't fancy sleeping or eating properly today - 2oz feeds and won't sleep unless she's being cuddled - as soon as we put her down she wakes up.
Cried on the health visitor, and on DH, and then the bloody in laws have turned up.
It will get better, won't it?!
It WILL get better, it really will. A friend of DH's asked, when DD was only a few weeks old, if we'd had "that" moment of thinking "What the fuck have I done?!" when the reality of a newborn is kicking in, and it dawns on you that this is forever, and there's no going back. Yes, we had, but it was still too fresh to be able to answer! I think I stood there for an age with my mouth open before squeaking "nope!" (it's NOT forever btw, just feels like it!)
Ignore the breadmaker, and the thank you cards. If guests turn up, doesn't mean you HAVE to let them in. If you do, ask them to fold some laundry/make the tea/run the hoover around, or just hold the babies for 20 minutes so you can shower in absolute peace! Most of all, be kind to yourself. Pyjamas, crap food, sofa/bed, daytime TV, whatever you fancy, and all guilt free, it's been well and truly earnt.
The next person to text "Any news" or do a comedy double take at my bump still being there is going to get my mobile shoved up their arse.
I still can't access the Facebook group. Not sure what's going on as I'm pretty sure I've been invited but for some reason my Facebook refuses to acknowledge it! Could it be that my Facebook email is an old one that no longer works? I thought the invite would show up in notifications. Bums.
I agree with mrsmangobiscuit, limit guests if you can but that might be hard if in laws are coming. Try to get DH to help manage them to give you space. I was so relieved once all 3 sets of grandparents had been and gone...
Oh and congrats to all the new mums and 'Go Fl0'
Binary - have PMed you, we'll get you sorted somehow!
Bras - another one here who has gone from a 32 to a 36-38 with the same cup size. I can't believe it and I have to admit I've always cried about bras too!
Weareboats I used to measure myself as i hated buying bras so much!
I think this is where the mothercare mistake came from - In the past (10 years ago) you used to measure as follows - add the 4 inches to your actual rib cage measurement if you measured even (eg you measured 36 so wore a 40 bra), or add 5 if you measured odd (eg you measured 35 so wore a 40 bra). Then you used to measure around the widest part of your boobs and if they were the same size as the added 4/5 then you needed an A, 1 inch larger, B and so on... I.e. 35 or 36 rib, with 41 boob was a 40B!
Now it has completely changed and that's why I went through another repeated phase of crying, as the bra size will match your actual measurement round your ribs... eg you measure 36 on the ribs, so wear a 36 bra. I think the cup is therefore based on the true difference, ie 1 inch wider on the boobs is an A, 2 inches a B etc etc. So in this case 36 on the ribs, 41 on the boobs would give you a 36DD - so it sounds like you picked the perfect bra, but she measured you the old fashioned way which is both confusing and upsetting - and I've def been there too!
The only thing I did learn at mothercare that they didn't think of in M&S is that when we're pregnant, we should buy a bra to fit on the tightest hooks, so we have room to grow as baby grows and our ribs get bigger. Afterwards, when breast feeding our ribs should go back down a bit (there is hope joskar), so buy a bra that fits on the looser setting so as you shrink & the bra stretches with age, it continues to fit well.
Hope that helps, completely understand how you are feeling, I have always cried when buying bras until I found bravissimo a few years ago, but since being pregnant I've had the same experience.
I hate bra shopping too....agree that bravissimo made life a whole lot easier, if you're lucky enough to have a Leia near by then that's even better. I got my hotmilk bra fitted at a baby show (by a lady who does home visits if u happen to live in Kent!). It's got 6 fastenings on the back & has survived my whole pregnancy as a result. Am going to wait for my milk to come in before I attempt bra shopping again...
My back has gone back to 'normal' now, in fact once the baby fully engaged I seemed to be about back to normal. Had gone up to about a 40 but back in a 34 now
I prefer to fit my bras myself based on what I already have and how tight they are rather than in inches and order online.
Right now though at 9days post birth and bf I am in sleep bras and vests as my breast size changes by the hour.
I feel like much less of a drama queen now ladies, I thought it was just me who cried about bras! It doesn't help that I don't want the ladies in the fitting room to touch me, particularly when I have a huge pregnant tummy that they would have to see as well! Life would be so much easier as a man, they have so much less to worry about! x
Hello again everyone. Well I am home from the hospital and feel so much better to be with my boys.
There were two tricky things about today - one was that it turns out I wasn't in the £150 a night private room, I had been taken (at 1am, having had a total of two half hour dozes the whole day after labour and the op to remove placenta bits!) to the private birthing suite which was £450 a night room only. DH was given a bill this morning for a deposit of over £1000 based on an expected few nights of staying. We are having to dispute this because although something about cost being different from where I was 'on a list' being said to me, I was in no state to understand what I was signing at 1am...!
The reason I was in overnight was that my Hb levels were low. My last bloods at 28w showed about 11.5 I think, and after the PPH and op and syntometrin they were 7.8. Overnight they had dropped further to 7.3 (which I would think is unsurprising given I had had hardly anything to eat and hardly any rest). So anyway, I was advised to have a transfusion, which I really didn't want but I didn't have great reasons that I could articulate. I just said I didn't want it, and I had support at home not to need to lift a finger for weeks if necessary, and would be able to maintain taking supplements and eating an iron rich diet to replace what was lost. I would go for testing through my GP and would be prepared to change plan if diet and supplements weren't working.
I am so lucky to have DH not needing to go back to a job. His redundancy earlier this year was such a silver lining really. He is also actually amazing anyway [soppy grin]
I'm now reading up all sorts of links on here about low iron and tiredness making it take longer for milk to come in, but also that transfused blood can boost your blood volume and iron but it doesn't carry the birth/pregnancy levels of oxytocin which are needed to be coursing around through the body to help milk production. Baby seems to be getting something from my colostrum however, and I have already felt more rested and recovered just from being home. I dont think I have had much benefit of being a second-timer... it was no less of a shell-shocking process, this birth lark, but for different reasons this time! At least I got the paed check and hearing screen out of the way today while waiting for discharge, as those would have been a pain to deal with from home.
I 'took to my bed' as they say in books straight away on arrival home at 2.30 and have only moved to go to the loo since. Loving all the bra talk (wow there's a real world out there with shops and everything!) and more babies arriving. Congrats slowblonde!
Rake, after I had DD, I had an Hb level of 5.5. I also refused a transfusion, as I didn't want to get Mad Cow Disease (LOL now, but this was 10 years ago, and they didn't screen, also my Mum had just died and I was just generally scared of anything relating to serious illness).
Anyway, I didn't have a transfusion, as was allergic to the horrible tablets they gave me. I took 2 sachets of Spatone every day and ate loads of pate, steak and leafy green veg. Dried apricots also good (although I hate them!)
Tbh, looking back it was about 8 weeks before I was properly better. I was very, very weak for quite a long time. It was more tiring feeding dd than ds, and I had less milk, although plenty enough to feed her, it was just that she was on for literally hours at a time! Be kind to yourself and accept all of the help you are offered.
Congrats Snow - only the second Oran I've ever heard of, brilliant name
Rake glad you're home and ok, I can't believe they have a £450 a night room! I'm sure they'll back down - likewise I'm sure there wasn't anyone else queuing for the room either at that price!
Jeni so glad to hear that ribs go down again, mine haven't yet even though baby has dropped a bit! So ready if I go with hot milk, should I order smaller in the hope that they actually have clips a bit bigger than normal but will shrink with me?
ps. Boats never think you're being a drama queen when pregnant. By default we are always right
Well done Rake, sounds like a challenge at e end but at least you ad the birth you wanted. I have been lurking on here for a while reading everyone's stories.
My first little one is due on Friday the 13th, we're not sure if it is a girl or boy. We are planning on having it at a birthing centre about 20mis from the nearest hospital (assuming everything goes smoothly).
im with you mynamesnotmichaelcane! If I could remove two words from the English language, they would without a doubt be "any news". Saw the midwife again today for another (failed) attempt at a sweep. once again my cervix is too posterior. So im booked for an induction on the 17th (term plus 13). Gutted that I might I still have another week of waiting. How are you getting on? Its lovely seeing all the new babies on here and facebook but I must admit its making me very jealous hurry up baby Leavy. Its really not that bad out here I promise you.
Hi all 3 am. .. What's going on? ! Baby Robin is almost 12 hours old. ... little boy born at 3; 35pm. Beautiful wonderful water birth three and a half hours after coming in! madness. Third stage more complex. ... retained placenta, so after almost an hour of waiting for natural third stage, then the injection anyway, then a crash team of 14 arriving whilst I lost some blood (benefit of this being I was mostly out of it by then) cue surprisingly unscary for me spinal block and visit to theatre to get my 'unusual'placenta out! daddy got lots of cuddles time with baby and we were all reunited about 7pm.
Mental day. Robin hasn't quite worked out latching on for more than ten seconds but enjoys a spoon of hand expressed colostrum. Accidental flooded catheter at one am plus other babies crying. .. not had any sleep yet
Thanks for all your kind words, realty makes a difference to read all this feeling tired and emotional at 3 am whilst working out whether it's rude to call the nurse to find out about plugging my phone in. .... not that I can find anything.
Biggest bestest tip.... if you packed your hospital bag ages ago like we did, double check what you have. I have no idea what is in any bag and legs still a bit wobbly to investigate. Midwives keep asking 'do you have x?'and u have no idea!
Also if you have a messy bloody birth, don't panic if baby's first sick and spit for hours after had blood in it! entirely normal apparently as poor mite has taken a belly full of gross stuff!
Oh thank you dietcoke and mrsmango, it's so nice to know this is sort of normal. My whole life is abit of a 'what the fuck have I done' moment at present, so that really really helped. Can't believe you're even attempting to make bread though! All I do at present is try to sleep, and occasionally eat something...
On the bras I can recommend the bravado seamless silk - really comfy and comes in s, m,l so a bit less stressful. My boobs gave settled down a bit now and the m and the l both seem to fit my 34d/e ok (depending on measuring system-with the mumsnet system I'm an e or f FWIR).
Sorry, posted before reading last page of thread - congratulations fl0, and well done!
Congratulations Fl0, lovely news Kim, failed sweep here too, am booked in for Sat (term +12). Had a little cry as had lovely home birth with ds and this just seems so different. Did think there might be something starting off last night, but obv not as absolutely nothing doing this morning.
Hey Fl0, don't worry too much about sleeping just yet...u must have so much adrenalin coursing through u right now! I'm sure you'll get some once ur body calms down.
Purple I'm normally a 32G or 34FF, the hotmilk is 36FF. When I got it at 16weeks I was I the 3rd notch...as I grew I went all the way to the furthest setting, now I've 'dropped' I'm just 1 in from the furthest (so notch 5). This is it: www.boobiemilk.co.uk/product.php?id=154 I'm thinking that I might just order 1 cup size bigger & same back size....but it's so difficult to know as my boobs really don't seem to have grown at all so far.
All this talk of retained placenta's has confirmed I want that injection now....even if it does involve tummy rubbing!
Me too Ready, and I didn't have it either other time.
I have bought 3 of the Bravado seamless nursing bras, and they are absolutely lovely. I'm normally a 30DD, so have bought the medium, as I can always take them in eventually if need be, and at the moment they fit really well.
I breastfed both of mine for quite a long time, so ended up getting some nicer nursing bras (I think I had Elle Macpherson ones) once I had settled back into a size that was going to become more normal (once they were about six months old). I then mistakenly thought I would have a more generous cleavage forever. Bit of a shock when I stopped feeding DS when he was 3 and went from a 32FF down to a 30DD!
I was thinking that too about the injection Ready and Michaelcaine. Think I will have it too. If I get a VB
Agreed ready in fact didn't we talk about 3rd Stage when we met last week?
Oh fl0 I feel terrible if you went for natural 3rd stage based on our conversation and then that happened! Poor you! If its not a difficult question, can I ask - did the cord stop pulsing before they cut it? My NCT teacher kept saying that if we wanted natural 3rd stage then the cord had to completely stop pulsing before it is cut.
Thanks for the bra advice ready I think I might order one as whilst the M&S ones seem ok, they probably won't be once the milks in!
purple sounds like this would have happened with natural or managed so that's. .. good?!I can't remember tomuch of what happened post baby arrival but they did delay the clamping.
I had lots of rubbing and jiggling and pulling and then the injection and more of that than a big man with his hands in me!!! I think it's an inherited issue so unless you know your mothers had problems with retained placenta then not to worry too much. What's amazing is that they literally make a placenta puzzle to make sure they have all the bits! ! I just had a chat with the doctor who did it for me. They are in disagreement about how much blood I lost! Not that it matters!
Amazing had to listen to Bounty hard selling to a few couples in my Ward (some just over a hundred quid! ) . I even heard s midwife apologise to the Bounty trip for interrupting her. ..wtf?! when they popped into see me I looked tearful and said I wasn't interested at all. They still have me the child benefit firm and then fucked off.
Oh so the rubbing and jiggling and pulling wasn't just my NCT teacher over dramatising, that's good to be prepared for! Funny to imagine a 'placenta puzzle'
Cant believe the bounty ladies, glad you were able to get rid! No visitors but the bounty lady is fine WTF!
Don't forget you can have the injection anytime. I went for natural 3rd stage and delivered the placenta fine and intact. However a shirt while later there seemed to be a bit more blood loss than there should have been (a little 'gush'!) so they recommended I have the injection at that point.
Looks like I've entered pre-labour, even though our due date is 28 Sept. DH is abroad at a conference that he very smartly organised... early this year he thought I was crazy for suggesting that maybe he should avoid booking trips abroad this month! As an expat, I don't have any family here either. Hang on in there, baby... and please don't come on the weekend either when the obstetrician I trust is away!
Currently 2 cm dilated (I'd had an appointment anyway at the hospital for follow-up monitoring after an external cephalic version). Last night was interesting... the pain of the contractions was fine but the soreness spread to my thighs, the way it feels before my periods, and I couldn't sleep. At some point I was shivering under a hot shower with my teeth rattling, but I am pretty sure that was panic rather than directly to do with labour.
DH kindly announced my placenta looked like a sirloin and was bigger than the baby!!! Charming man!!
Fl0 sounds like you had a bit of a rough time after a lovely labour. Hope you're taking it easy and feeling better.
Now it seems to me that there is some queue jumping happening. I must be nearly at the head of the queue and yet there are people after me with babies. A word of warning: I'll be tapping you on the shoulder and saying "Excuse me!" in a loud outraged voice if there's any more of this carry on!
Now it seems to me that there is some queue jumping happening. I must be nearly at the head of the queue and yet there are people after me with babies. A word of warning: I'll be tapping you on the shoulder and saying "Excuse me!" in a loud outraged voice if there's any more of this carry on!
Yikes Peregrin, that does sound like early labour, but don't worry, it can go on for a while. With my first, irregular contractions including that feeling down to my thighs went on for 48hrs and I was only 3cm at the end of it all. Obviously I don't wish a long labour on you but if you need time for DH to get home, then this is possible!! Have you got a friend or a doula if you did need to be accompanied to hospital?
Good luck everyone who's yet to have their babies. I'm switching to the FB page for a while, just easier to keep track of especially as I have my c-section tomorrow and life will likely be very different!!!
Good luck dorita, hope all goes well.
Congrats to Fl0, good luck to Dorita. I can't seem to get my head around the Facebook page as I don't know who anyone is on it. Is there a Mumsnet name to real name conversion chart anywhere?
Now over a week late and starting to stress out about possible induction. With my other 2 I had really straightforward, fairly quick births and I just can't see that happening this time round for some reason. I might be wrong, there's still time. I shouldn't have been such a wuss and refused a sweep last week, although if you're not ready, there's not much they can do anyway. The midwife did say I could change my mind at any point. Might call her tomorrow...
man if you look on the spreadsheet then everyone is listed by MN name and real name.
peregrin good luck with the pains, and fingers crossed DH makes it!
Does anyone know if you can go into labour before baby has dropped if it's your first time? I've been getting weird and uncomfortable pains all day, but I know I haven't dropped (I'm either 37+2 by scan or 38+2 by dates). They don't feel like period pains, but they don't feel like Braxton hicks either. Baby is still moving a lot but it doesn't feel like that either. I'm meant to go to the hospital as soon as labour starts (strep b) and I'm scared I'm going to miss the early signs, then be too late for the drip.
Jukiper - With DC1 I was 5/5s palpable just a couple of days before birth so its definitely possible. If you're worried it might be labour just call and speak to someone. If you're meant to go in right away I'm sure they won't mind. Good luck.
Good luck peregrin - sounds stressful, but hopefully your dh will get back in time. Remember paracetamol - it helped me a bit in the early stages.
I had the injection and the Pulling/rubbing was really fine, and pretty minimal - the midwife just did an occasional gentle tug to see if it was ready and then when it was just gently 'encouraged' it out. Writing it down it sounds worse than it was-I hardly noticed any of it.
Agreed about the pulling and ribbing being fine. .. I had just pushed an 8lb baby out on gas and air. .. there wasn't much more could shock me at this point! !!!
Today has been a long day but got a shower and fed which all helped. Our little man is amazing but still struggling to feed. Lots of helpful midwives doing their best to give us lots of options and he managed to latch on for about 4 mins this morning which is a huge improvement. I hands expressed about three teaspoons this feed too so no more formula on this feed so pleased. Let's hope he is getting it!
I've even had a little sleep between feeding schedule and already had at least double nights sleep. Not sure they will let me home till we sorty feeding. In feeling much more capable than yesterday when I couldn't even get our of bed to pick him up myself! learning to call midwives for little things. ... couldn't get into my cereal this morning.
Hosp foods surprisingly ok but a bit short supply so snacks needed. I can't reach my cereal bars or Choc buttons but having a lovely cuddle so happy to be hungry!
Surprisingly easy to miss stuff. .. medicine trolly this evening. Every muscle in my body is stiff from pushing including neck and arns madly but missed my last lots of paracetamol.
Good luck to those waiting. ... what an experience this all is!
I had the injection to deliver the placenta both times. There may have been tugging but there was definitely no rubbing! I can't even remember delivering it the first time but do remember pushing to deliver it this time
Apparently with an induction they prefer that you have the injection.
Good luck dorita and peregrin - hope your dh makes it home in time.
Congratulations fl0, and well done on a gas and air delivery! I hope recovery and feeding goes well (and you can start reaching food soon) and get home asap.
Can't wait for my little bear to arrive, both super nervous and excited at the same time.
Thanks for all the 3rd stage experiences everyone, it's the bit ppl don't talk abt and for some reason it's been worrying me! Maybe it's just that worry abt things going wrong at a home birth, don't know. Fingers crossed I barely notice it too!
Juniper - I've been getting all sorts of different pains,aches & cramps for the last week + yesterday felt like the day my period is due, yet still nothing! Def worth checking with the MW though, I have been just in case!
YY to various twinges, cramps and periody type pains all coming to nothing.
Also can barely walk due to John Wayne style gait and pressure low down. What's going on, I thought 2nd babies didn't engage until start of labour but I've been like this on and off for days!
Today is DDs nursery day, so really looking to a quiet day. Plus new washing machine is being delivered after 10 days without, thank goodness. I suppose I shouldn't wish baby here until the backlog of washing is cleared...
Can I just ask, who went for a sweep and was it worth it? I'm now 40 + 9(!), due for induction on Sunday. I declined a sweep last week but now I'm reconsidering, but I am a wuss and also feel the less footling around in there the better. This is probably partly due to the fact that with my previous two births it wasn't even necessary to have an internal. I have a really sore lower back today, but otherwise no symptoms. It doesn't help that I had a visit from a friend last night who works in neo-natal in a different district which doesn't allow people to go past 10 days over and she was slightly shocked my induction was booked for +13. Has panicked me a bit. Why are the guidelines so varied?
On the subject of the injection, I will definitely be having it. Had it twice before and there wasn't any pulling or rubbing required at all.
manoodledo- im 40 + 7 today and booked for induction at 40 + 13. I am feeling very much the same about the varied rules for different districts. Concerned this kids gonna be bigger than me when he finally arrives
Two midwives have attempted to perform a sweep on me over the last week unsuccessfully. For whats its worth, they werent too bad! So I would definitely recommend giving it a go. My cervix is still too posterior for the sweep to work properly but Ive been offered another try on Monday and I think I will definitely go ahead with it. id much prefer a sweep than a drug induction! I really dont want to scupper my chances of a water birth ideally.
michaelcaine have ou it anything else ou can shove, surely you need your mobile to chat to us?
kimjayne thanks for that. Maybe I will give a sweep ago. It would be worth at least finding out if my cervix is remotely favourable. I've just been out to try and get some castor oil. Thought it was worth a try. Turns out you can't get it in chemists any more! Maybe that's a blessing in disguise though. I'm wondering too about the size of the baby. So far it's been measured as average, which, if that's the case, means it'll be way bigger than my other two who were/are tiddlers. Eek!
Thanks everyone for the kind words! Thankfully we are still in one piece. DH arriving on the last train tonight.
Goodness, I've been rubbish at keeping up with the thread.....I blame all the gorgeous baby pics on fb that keep distracting me!
Finding all the talk of 3rd stage really interesting and helpful so thanks for that ladies. I've had a vague notion of declining the injection in the spirit of keeping things as natural as possible, but having read this I think I'll be keeping a much more open mind - I'll hopefully be in a birthing centre an ambulance ride away from the nearest hospital so if there is any placenta retained I'm guessing it'll be a much bigger deal from there, so maybe giving it a helping hand isn't such a bad idea after all.
I was hoping for a natural third stage but they had to check little Mr as there was meconium in the pool.
DH cut the cord while i still had my eyes shut, then I remember saying "ouch" at the injection!! - seriously? After pushing out a baby on gas and air???
Then they said I'd have to push it out but the push required was hardly more than going for a pee and it all came.
Before I knew it DS was back on my chest and it was all over.
I had a sweep this morning. It was a bit sore but not that bad. My cervix is very posterior and so nothing doing. Even though I knew in myself that it wasn't time I'd sort of psyched myself up for it so I'm feeling all low and disappointed now.
Have been forced to eat a Snickers, a vanilla slice, two choc chip biscuits and a small packet of mini-cheddars washed down with a can of lemonade in an effort to cheer myself up. Can you give the bairn diabetes in the last few weeks in the womb?!
kimjayne and Manoodledo my SIL was 40+13 when she was induced (at Stirling hospital) and her LO was 7 12. I don't think it necessarily gets any bigger after a certain point. SILs first baby was well over 9 so she was expecting to have another whopper.
TMI alert - I think I might have a small 'pile'... will it go away by itself? Or do I need the stuff from the chemist? Is the stuff from the chemist worth getting anyway?
It's not causing lot of problems but makes needing the toilet a bit uncomfortable. I think it bleeds a little bit but as I still have lochia I can't tell for sure.
Boo! Sorry to hear that Joskar! I'm such a wimp, I didn't call the midwife about a sweep after all. I get the impression that it isn't that painful when your cervix isn't ready 'cos they can't really do it. Oh well, back to being a sex pest, poor DH.
I was also wondering if it's too late to give myself GD as I've fair been going at it with the biscuits in the past few days.
Just crashing by to wish all the September Mummies good luck. This time last year I was in labour, I can't believe how fast time has gone. My amazing DD is one this week!
I'm jealous of you all with your newborns and maternity leave. Enjoy it!
I'm currently TTC#2 ;)
badguider Mine have all gone away by themselves. Lots of figs (fresh, dried and in biscuit form) and plenty fluids and wet wipes (or wet loo paper) rather than dry paper.
It's all glamour in pregnancy ain't it?!
badguider mine went away on their own too, after about 8 days (or at least I think it was a pile, never had one before, and didn't want to investigate too thoroughly!)
Badguider - bowel issues run in my family so I often get fissures (bleeding) and have had Hemorrhoids in both pregnancies (or 'Roy', as he's affectionately known) and though not troublesome, if it's causing you some stinging when using the loo then Germoloid cream or ointment is your best bet. It numbs the area and shrinks the pile. You can get Germoloid wipes as well which are good.
Hi all. Good third stage chat. At home cuddling Robin in bed as he won't settle in moses basket. No idea but halt with a cuddle. Due next feed after first epically shite home feed (ended up spooning in hand expressed colostrum formula top up after failbto latch on for morethan a couple of mins over an hour then HUGE meconium and pissing up himself). He had been dieting a few feeding cues so will try nappy change then Boob first, then hand express then formula. Really want to bf and really thought we had it this morning but he has gone back to latches for a few moments then either falls asleep or loses it. Supply good (leaking all over his cuddle).
fl0, my LO only stayed on for 5 mis at a time maximum for the first few days and then fell asleep. The mw didn't seem worried though and she actually gained weight by her 3 day check. Slowly she started staying on longer. Blowing on her face used to wake her a bit and get an extra minute sometimes.
I'm so bored of being awake for no reason in the middle of the night
I'm bored of bbc news
Not sure whether it's better to be up for no reason or for feeding/sleeping reasons. Both equally frustrating. Both girls are incredibly sleepy but seemingly incredibly hungry too. And they're tag teaming me - this stint started at 2.30 after me getting to sleep at 1.30. They're being very cute though, I'm just tired!!
well ive not had a show and my waters havent broken .... but I seem to be having contractions. Was initially convinced they were strong braxton hix but after 4 hours solid im starting to think ... this might be the real deal eeeeeeek!!!! wish me luck
cheers ready. Im confused by the gaps between contractions at the moment. they are generally 3.5 or 4 mins apart but occasionally I get a longer gap (around 6 mins). is this normal?
My cxs were never very regular so I don't think there is a normal. Good luck!
Ooooh Kim let's hope so!
And hang in there flo. My DS1 was like that for first 3 days.. I didn't top up, just kept offering boob v v frequently. He did lose a bit of weight but way less than 10% cut off, then just got it all of a sudden and became an obsessive and efficient feeder, who i bf for 15 mths... Good luck and thinking of you!
And thanks salty and good luck with the creation of DC2
Good luck kim!
At the moment I think I would quite like a cute little boy to feed/change/cuddle in the middle of the night, then at least I would have a good excuse and wouldnt mind sleeping through the day as well! ...having said that, I deserve the right to change my mind, if he ever turns up!
Thanks guys! Can I ask if you did formula top ups? I don't want to but caved in already!
GL kim....! Mine were v regular in the onthe whole then some long and shorter gaps
flo if he's getting plenty of colostrum you probably don't need to. But up to you of course. Go by wet and dirty nappies to reassure you he's getting enough. Don't forget how tiny that tum is.
You may find feeds will lengthen when your milk comes in too. Hang in there, you're doing great.
Thanks. This was exactly how I felt til evil midwife discharging me suddenly put the fear of God in me. He had had 5 massive meconium pooh s since 5pm yest and a few wet nappies. He is getting some colostrum but not a huge amount but milk is defo coming in today (and leaking all over him, me, the bed etc.
Husband is asleep so iI'm going to pop sleepy baby down and grab a shower!
Waiting for a call from community midwife team about visiting today. Looking forwards to it.
Flo, remember that nappies are designed to soak up and hide wee. There could well have been a lot more than you realised. Colostrum/BM is supposed to be fab at helping to flush out meconium, so it sounds like he's getting enough of it to work. If you find now that your milk is in, he struggles to stay latched and cries (not just falls asleep) it might be that your let down is a bit fierce. Sometimes it can be a bit too powerful, and they get a mouthful, and a bit of a shock. Expressing a little bit first can help with that. Oh, and I used to feed till DD dozed off, then changed her, which woke her enough to feed a bit more. Sounds like you're doing great though. Please ignore evil midwife, there's always one! We had one that even scared DH! Evil bat!
Oh god, I am so tired and uncomfortable with bump aches and bh I really hope this little bear doesn't decide to make an entrance today, I don't think I would have the energy for it. Just had a shower and need another lie down. This is rubbish!
Part of me is secretly hoping this feeling awful is some secret sign, or that it might be early labour and so hard I haven't noticed, but unfortunately i suspect not. Although I have no idea why I feel so dreadful and tired
Good luck kim, fingers crossed for you.
Had horrible night of feeding every two hours, then no interest in feeding for nearly 8 hours despite me trying to wake and offer. Just wants to sleep. Managed a couple of five minute feeds but that's all - do you think I should be worried? She's on now but only did a few mins of proper sucking and is now mainly doing fluttery sucks.
How old is your DD, mooster? 8h is quite a long time but if she's a few weeks might be preparing to sleep through for you!
I haven't been on the thread in months and months! So very sorry but huge congratulations to all those with their gorgeous arrivals.
May I ask a quick question. Did you all get offered/have the whopping cough jab? After seeing an NHS email saying I should've had it by 38wks (I'd no idea about it prior! ) I panicked and called the midwife. Turns out she forgot to mention/organize it. So I'm having it today at 39+6, which causes no harm to the baby but will give very little chance of passing antibodies on. Am in a bit of a hormonal tizzy now that baby will be at risk! Anyone else had a late/no WC jab?
Wibbly, I didn't have it in the end. My midwife didn't mention it until I asked, and told me I would have to book in with my GP if I wanted it. Although she was pro-jab, she didn't exactly seem enthusiastic. I've had whooping cough, and I've been exposed since. I don't even remember it being an option with DD1, so I'm not panicking about it this time round.
Wibbly - I had to ask for it. I think they're not so fussed about us having it now as the risk has reduced or something. So I had it but wouldn't have worried too much if I hadn't.
DD is 2 weeks, She woke for a feed at 5 and is still going though, so I think she's ok.
She's definitely got day and night mixed up if she's thinking of sleeping through though! In fact, does anyone have any tips for this? If she's going to go longer than 2/3 hours between feeds it's always during the day.
fl0 - we didn't get a lot of wet nappies till more like day 4.
we felt that so long as the meconium was coming out and then later changing colour that it'd be ok.
The wee came BIG TIME when my milk came in properly on days 4/5.
Have you any reason to think your wee one isn't getting all the colostrum he needs just fine?
Can you access special feeding support from your MW?
Mooster - I think it takes about 6 weeks til they 'get' day and night IIRC. But I'd be thinking its a great sign for the future! ;)
wibbly I haven't had the jab either, don't worry too much if you've missed the window, it's a new thing in the last year or so as there has been a bit of an increase in it. Personally, I was just lazy about getting around to it.
Some people are anti it as its not been fully proved, I.e. no formal testing on pregnant women and no conclusive proof that it is passed on to baby and finally, worst case, baby gets its own jab at 8 weeks.
Hey all. Sorry to hijack with feeding stress!I've started a thread on Feeding group thing www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1851035-3-day-old-want-to-BF so if anyone has any thoughts of advice please pop over!
The only thing that makes me think he's not getting enough are comments by VERY pro-BF community midwife who I saw today that we need to top up with formula for now until we get the expressing going- and the fact he is jaundice and really is not feeding from me for more than a couple of sucks in an hour or so.
Robin just falls asleep or stops sucking no matter what we try. He is getting sleepier and slower.
He is wonderful otherwise. 3 days blues not quite kicking in with my milk, though I did almost loose it at DH at 3am feed who told me very clearly that he was coming to help in a minute (but fell asleep). And then whilst he knew I was trying to get my thoughts together about the BF problems he was trying to get me to go all the way to the kitchen to go and "look at the runner beans" he was about to cook. I shouted back to cook something else as I was too busy to come and "look at them".
Oh Fl0 sorry to hear about little Robin's struggles to feed. Looks like you've had some great advice on the other thread. I've heard lots of stories of babies going back to bf later - in fact my MIL said that my DH was bottle for 2 weeks as a newborn as she was so ill, but she still managed to get him back on to bf. sounds like you are doing everything you can, but you need rest (*sleep*) too as without it, you'll get more stressed and it will seem harder - maybe take the advice about allowing DH to do one bottle tonight while you sleep, tomorrow might seem a lot easier then?
fl0 I'm so sorry to hear that you're having a nightmare. I haven't had my baby yet but I know from speaking to my (midwife) mother that I was very sleepy and slow to feed as a baby. I think it's pretty normal. Baby is learning the whole rigmarole too and I don't think he'll let himself be hungry so I'm sure whatever he gets from you will be fine. Thinking of you and sending positive milky thoughts. And cake. Never go wrong with cake.
Have u tried either the nhs or Nct bf helplines flo? My SIL is training as a bf peer supporter...but she's only just started the training so not sure how helpful she is yet...can give her a try on fb if u like.
One of my friends ended up expressing & bottle feeding in the first couple of weeks as mw was worried about jaundice, but she has no probs with the breast now & is happy to take bottles too so if u do use a bottle I don't think it has to spell the end for breast....just make sure you keep expressing to maintain the milk supply.
Thanks guys. Better, s quicker and more prepared routine through today has got things feeling a bit brighter. Will see a different community mw tomorrow so hope that there will be more good advice to come! He is more alert and a better colour this evening so this is working and I've expressed a full feeds worth of almost 50ml throughout the day today (sore nips starting) which I am hoping my husband can give to him this morning maybe the half six feed or maybe mid morning? We are sharing the In between care so I had a good nap of 90 mins earlier plus a couple of hours last night too.
He refuses to sleep at night in moses basket (needs to be cuddled upright or cries) but happily kips all day in it. So I'm in first cuddle shift to the next feed and expressing cycke in an hour or so then husband will take responsibility for the second half of the night worked well last night so fx!
So. ... who had read all my blatherings and is wondering if they can go back in time 9 months? !
And who is having the next baby? !
Oh I didn't mention post catheter uti that developed today? Hoping community mw will be able to sort tomorrow for me!
Oh Fl0 you are really going through the wringer aren't you! Glad you have got A Plan with Mr Fl0 and are sharing the shifts. Just a few days and this will seem a distant memory, once milk has settled down and feeds are a little more predictable.
DH has been out this evening and I had a friend round to help put DS to bed, because as expected baby was in a demanding phase just at that point of the evening. We managed ok! But I have so far tonight had two hours of sleep with her lying on me, and for the past 90 minutes feeding, winding and changing a monster crap. While waiting for the wind to burble up through her, she lay against my chest in frog pose and seemed to be having lovely dreams, I was watching a fabulous range of facial expressions including massive smiles! It doesn't help me get my sleep to have her on me but there's no other option at the moment - I keep trying to put her in the basket but she really doesn't like it.
Inlaws, 5-day MW visit and DS's last day at his lovely nursery tomorrow before starting reception on Monday... Could be emotional.
Will go and check your thread fl0 - sounds like the expressing might be improving?
Have you tried different times of day? I can express loads around 10/11am but almost nothing at 11pm.
I keep forgetting to play catch up here, a little person is taking up all my time (and it's wonderful)
Fl0 sounds like you have things sorted now, good on ya! I also had the same problems as you but struggled to express and didn't get a drop with hand expressing. I think these little boys are a tad lazy which doesn't help and we're far too warm and comfortable, we're the perfect cushion. We failed big time, my recovery wasn't going well, DS lost a lot of weight and after a disastrous MW visit, I packed in. Huge regrets now, but that's only since the anti B's have kicked in and I'm mobile again. I so wish we could turn back the clock. It is wonderful to see him thrive after being so worried about him though. I was worried about the bonding but there's no where he'd rather be than on mummy's chest snoozing
So many new babies, congratulations everyone.
Keep up the good work to everyone still waiting. It will soon be your turn and you'll have forgotten all about the 9 month wait. Day 12 for us and feels like he's been here forever.
Flip - there are ways to restart if you really want to.
We're doing ok feeding but no expressing: I discovered last time my milk has some enzyme which means it doesn't keep at all. It does take the pressure off a little as if we want / need to give bottles it'll be formula!
I'm finding it horrible having a 2 week old with a cold though Thankfully he slept better last night, but in the day and the previous night he just wanted to be held upright which DD wasn't too impressed about, especially as she and I are feeling coldy too!
I hope the still pregnant people aren't too terrified by all this! Despite the cold though I feel pretty good: after barely walking anywhere the last month or so due to SPD I've pushed the buggy miles on the school run this week, can go up and down the stairs without issue, have no heartburn can fit back in my maternity jeans etc
Haha, a little bit scared, but still more scared of birth at the moment!
Urgh it's so hard, isn't it? You forget what makes it so hard! We have had two nights so for - the first he slept fine but I just couldn't fall asleep, I was still coming down from a high/reliving the pain every time I closed my eyes. Then last night I took him upstairs at about 9pm whereupon he seemed to get wt the point of breastfeeding is for the first time. He alternated between feeding and screaming till about 5am. His latch isn't brilliant so my nipples got sorer and sorer. I tht they didn't have the feedathons till at least when your milk came in? I eventually fell asleep lying on my back with him on my chest which can't be terribly safe. We tried everything, swaddling him, winding him, walking up and down with him etc etc. I can't remember how long it takes till they can latch themselves on - at the mo I have to put the light on and wrestle him every time. Grr!
I'm with purple still worrying about birth, but I am taking notes about all your breastfeeding/sleeping problems so hopefully it will all go swimmingly ...
It's just frustrating that after the exertion of giving birth if you could just have a good night's sleep you would feel so much better! With hindsight I should have had a very stiff drink on Wednesday night to send me off to sleep, but it wouldn't have mixed with the paracetamol and I didn't realise how sleepy thebbaby would be ttat first night.
Yes, top piece of advice - the baby will sleep most of its first night so get as much sleep yourself as you can!!
Woo! Just met a Mum at a play group this morning with a DD the same age as mine and a 6 week old.
She told me they have totally revamped the pool rooms at our local hospital, en suite, mood lighting the works. Didn't bother with a hospital visit this time so I'm quite excited to see it all now!
Come on baby, edd in 2 days!!!
Actually excited to go into labour now!
Was woken up in the night several times with period type pains and kind of rippling pains travelling from bottom of bump about half way up. Then felt sick from about 5am..
Didn't have bfast until 11:30 as felt so sick and ended up wandering round Sainsburys and had awful bump pains all over the bump.
Got home now and had some food and a sit down and bump pains have subsided. Could it have just been that I've done too much or does this sound like the kind of pains everyone else has had pre-labour? I'm only 38 weeks... Not that that matters!
Sounds similar to mine, and they do tend to come on when I'm busy and go as I relax... I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it'll make real labour go quicker
Thanks everyone for the reassurances on the whopping cough vaccination! Feeling much calmer. The nurse said I had little chance of it having an effect to help her if she arrives soon (due today!) but any overdue time it'll give her a few antibodies.
Been having lots of BH, back ache and nausea today but then have been for the last 10 days so not getting my hopes up on it being today. I had none of this with DS1, he just woke me up at 1am with a contraction so painful there was no doubt I was in labour. This time its a bit of period pain here, some contractions there. I'm so confused and my poor DH is on the cusp of a nervous breakdown as he keeps thinking this is it
Finally decided to sort out some of the music I might want to listen to in labour, and load it onto my phone. Then went to the loo and lost my plug! Hopefully mini biscuit is thinking about making a move, but I'm probably just getting my hopes up. Would be lovely if she could turn up before PILs go on holiday tomorrow.
All this chat of aches and pains and backache and show... what did I say to yous all about queue jumping?! There'll be no more of it, thank you! My turn next!
I have to go to a wedding tomorrow. The only clothing that fits are DH's jogging trousers. They have a hole in the crotch (not part of the original design or a deliberate addition just a feature of age) and they are blue with grey stripes and slightly too long as DH is a full 15 inches taller than me. The only shoes that fit are ancient pink Birkenstocks that the dog chewed when he was a puppy. Even then my dropsical ankle flesh will flop all over the floor. In fact it's not so much that they fit as that they don't have enough structure to prevent me squeezing my feet into them. I look like I'm wearing those big comedy slippers in the shape of monster paws. And I include the hair in that image.
Either this baby comes now or I get struck by lightening but whichever it is it has to be better than attending a formal occasion in that rig out. It's never cool to take attention away from a bride on her wedding day but particularly not if it's because you look like an escapee from an asylum whose only clothing options were stolen from a bag intended for the bin.
OMG, people, OMG.
Lol Joskar! It's a beautiful image...
At the risk of TMI, DH has been taking trying to kickstart my labour very seriously. This morning he succeeded in giving me some major full-on contractions that really hurt - and lasted all of 15 minutes! What is it with babies who just don't want to come out. Am now 41+4!!!!!!
Can't imagine even looking vaguely presentable at this point so glad I've got nowhere important to go
Joskar that is hilarious, let us know what you end up wearing!
I left the house for the first time in about 2 weeks today and had to force myself out of my XXL man's hoodie and my trackie bums.
Have been having quite strong period-type pains and lower back ache for the last couple of days. Was a teeny bit excited although I'm aware this can go on for days. Just had a midwife appointment though and the baby is still only 4/5 palpable so barely engaged yet, I'm 39+4 today. I'm going to be bouncing on my ball and DTD a lot over the weekend I guess!
Big love to all the other impatient/overdue ladies out there in MN Land
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH haemorrhoids! I'm in actual hell. To all still awaiting labour, yes you will deserve biscuits, and fresh pasta meals that cook in 5 minutes are super easy when you have a small baby, but if you have a family history of problems in this area, you really ought to eat more fruit and veg and drink lots.
Clearly that last sentence was written as if I'd gone back in time and could give advice to myself.
SGJ - Things are bordering on stuck in that department for me too.. have been drinking tons but it's not helping. Feels like first trimester again I think it's the sleep deprivation and lack of physical exercise.. I've never spent so long sitting on my bum in my life! I was much more active than this in pregnancy!!!
SGJ, I've got the "bunch of grapes" issue! A cool pack on sofa, then lower myself on top has been heavenly. Just don't share a picnic with me
Softening things up with lactulose, dried apricots and chopping prunes on top of my bran flakes has helped. The fear of the poo is horrendous, I fear for my stitches everytime. So glad I'm anonymous on here
Hope things improve for you!
Joskar that just made me snort out my well earned glass of vino after getting the 3 boys on my tod!!
Oh and sgj and flip, me too so much so that my iron levels have plummeted from associated blood loss. And I haven't been constipated, just all in a bit of a state clearly #gross
That should have read 3 boys into bed on my own (as DH still at work) clearly the wine I did manage to consume before reading joskar's post has had an effect ;)
Joskar, had to show that to dh and he was on the floor laughing and looked like he was going to wet himself. He did send love and sympathies though and 'bless, poor pregnant ladies'. Having said that he is sitting next to mw in my pants as everything else seems to dig into my bump ....
ION I think I had a contraction! Just the one, but it was quite exciting :D
running your DH is wearing YOUR pants?! Is that some kind of show of solidarity?!
Good news re the contraction though. Carry on, carry on!!
Yay, thanks for making me feel better ladies, even if it's cos you all feel awful too! I know it will improve but you're right, badguider, all the sitting around feeding really doesn't help!
Sorry Joskar, this time my aches and scares haven't subsided but I'm still a bit in denial over whether this is labour or not. MW suggested I take a bath and then try to sleep, has anyone else done this and found it stops things?
Ooh purple sounds exciting!,I didn't have time fit a bath but I'd say go for it as the warm water is lovely!!
joksar that cracked me up! Sorry
Feeling chipper over here at the moment. Worked out a schedule for tonight ( as he still isn't demanding feeds, we are on 3 hr scedule) and have included who looks after him if he wakes at different times. Hopefully this plan will help us be more with it tomorrow! In other news, leaving the house to go to the bf clinic was good.... We left the house!
I've been doing lotsof skin to skin and it's amazing.... I am leaking like crazy! Went from taking about 12 hours to express 75ml of milk to just now reading this thread my right boob gave me 40ml! He is taking about 50 to 60 per feed at the moment so if I can feed him and express enough for the next feed in an hour I am happy
Next to get the imp to latch on, stay awake and suckle. Got my 5 day appt tomorrow with mw so hoping he's not lost too much weight. They promised I call first this time so we can arrange a time when he is due a feed so I can get more help!
Ooh sounds exciting purple! Keep us posted!
No dietcoke ...me in my pants, unfortunately dh fully dressed (and laughing too much to remove more clothing).
Great news fl0 sounds like things are coming together for you all. Try not to stress about weight loss as some is quite normal.
Am super uncomfortable tonight, still feeling refluxy sitting upright so not much chance of sleep. Also having cramps/bhs which sends babybear super wriggly after so not much chance of sleep for the moment. Just trying to send thinning thoughts to the cervix!!!
oh and hilariously got a Facebook message from my grandma asking if we had had the baby yet!? People are starting to get bonkers, I will fill you in on any rediculous messages, but I think that thinks may have won ...
Bless your grandma!,
Things coming together I hope. Robin had a proper feed from the breast just now! So excited! I have just expressed a little extra but hoping he has found a rhythm now and I can just prop up in bed and bf with him now. Can hear him keeping his daddy awake so to the steriliser and then bed!
fl0 yay, so pleased it's coming together.
My DH has an uncanny knack of sleeping through even the loudest, unconsolable screams. No idea how he manages it at all...
ooh er, I see you contraction and raise you - one set of yogic breathing. How do you like that! Ha!
(hmm see how long that lasts). DH is preparing himself, by sleeping as much as possible
My DH used to sleep through it all, soon put a stop to that ;) It's definitely a choice as he can now wake if he knows its his responsibility, but has to be clearly
ok contraction. How about 2 paracetamol and a tens machine? Take that!
Yay for running bear, baby bear and the long awaited contractions!!
All the best and looking forward to updates.
Oh runningbear, good luck! So I had my bath and as MW predicted they subsided so I went to bed, I've managed to sleep in 2 hour chunks but they have started to come back now. Nothing super painful like last night so I think I'm just on for an epic pre-labour instead of it being anything serious yet!
Good to see all the good advice for the next few weeks-think I might have to find a way to get all the gems out if this thread and the FB group and put them in one place!
Big question for me is do I become a sex pest and try every else to get this moving or just chill all weekend while it happens at its own pace?
Hurrah runningbear and purple!
I'm multitasking. .. skin to skin and expressing! And on my phone! He is now refusing the breast like it's poisoned so expressing! so noisy I can't watch telly!
My waters broke! At about 12.50 last night - so exciting! We went off to the hospital and I was hooked up to the monitor. Baby is fine and it did show some tightenings but nothing that could be construed as contractions.
I got sent home at about 3.30am and managed to get some sleep. We have to go back in tomorrow morning if nothing doing. Is there any way to encourage contractions? I really don't want to be induced!
Good luck to the ladies who are feeling the start of things and great to hear things are going well for you fl0 x
Oh dear! I'm sure it'll get easier Fl0! Fingers crossed for you xx
Sounds like this could be a busy weekend on the baby front! Good luck ladies, hope everything progresses swiftly for you all.
Maybe it's time to get active purple? Nice walk to a pub for lunch perhaps...
Oh, I want it to be my turn!!
Good luck everyone
DS announced this morning that baby sister is called Savannah.
Had proper milk start to come in on day 4, which is better than I expected having read up that blood loss can slow it down. As soon as the feeds have been more satisfying, she has started being much more alert. She's looking at all the contrasting shadows around the room, looking towards the light of windows, and especially looking up at my face like she's going to have to describe me in detail for a photo-fit later...! This morning there's so much milk I'm dripping from one side while she suckles the other. Nice!
Sympathies on the grapes front... DH has been feeding me fresh fruit slathered in plain yogurt for almost every breakfast. It seems to have helped, well, I've had three or four successful trips to the loo on that front... Used my labour breathing to stop myself tensing up, which worked! We have some lactulose but I haven't used it yet.
The cord came off yesterday. It was looking pretty horrible in the morning, as the not-quite-dried blood was flaking away. There was only a thin part of cord still hanging on but the clasp thing was making it get tugged about a bit. We couldn't see a way to undo it so instead I got micropore tape and held it in place. It was the day 5 MW visit so she had a look and pronounced it ok, then it fell off later in the evening. The weighing went well, my big girl had only lost 60g from her starting weight of 3960g. She really objected to the heel prick procedure, poor love. Not only the stab but the squeezing to get the spots on the card thing. But I'm sure it's all forgotten now. The only immunisation DS really knew what was going on and retained any memory/grudge about was his pre school boosters.
Inlaws visit yesterday was all fine. They spent slightly too long trying to suggest names to us, and weren't too hot on the skills of holding baby properly supported, but it was all fine.
Should probably get out of bed and get dressed now...!
Yey hetty good luck.
Ready - prob a good idea, might suggest it to DH
Could be the last one you get to enjoy in peace for a while!
He's here!!!!! Perfect home birth, no issues, no stitches just a graze! 10 hours start to finish. Hayden George born 2.33, 8lb exactly. Has fed well, done a huge poo on me now snoozing on the sofa. So amazing, being at home was fab.