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March 2014 - thread 5 - Dating scans in full swing(1000 Posts)
oops got to 1000 post before starting a new thread, so I hope everyone finds the new on ok??
Here you are. I've been looking for you, you bunch of chatterboxes!
[mouthful of Pop Tart] I'm here!
Still resisting buying pop tarts!
Yes and in my super exhausted state I forgot to write "thread 5" in the subject!
Glad you guys found it.
My scan is next Wednesday and the reality that in 6 months time we're having a baby is starting to sink in. Roll on mild panic! Feel some lists coming on!
* wonders * have I ever eaten pop tarts? - not sure I have
I know one of my friends made pop tarts from scratch... they didn't look quite the same as shop bought ones that was for sure.
Oh god - now I'd like pop tart. But I hate them. How does that work??!!
How is everyone today?
At the start if this thread can we see how far everyone is? I've lost track!
Raspberry #1, 9weeks, 4days. Due date 23rd march
Good luck to Grey, Frank and Rock today, looking forward to seeing some new scan pics
Pram so sorry your DP is being an utter twat - I do hope he manages to pull himself together as much for his own sake but also that of your baby.
Feeling shattered, just as I think my symptoms are letting up, they seem to come back full swing, so I'm treating myself to a large portion of chips covered in salt and vinegar with ketchup for lunch - I need carbs!
F&T Age 29, #1, 11 + 1, EDD 12th March, Dating scan Wed 28th August
Neither do I Raspberry. Still want one though.
MTB My symptoms are coming and going all the time now too. Can't decide if I prefer that or them being constant and predictable!
I am also in the mad list making phase! Keep looking around the house in utter panic about what needs to be done.
I've been too ill to even manage the laundry, so you can imagine what the house looks like! Have been feelin muscly better recently so might have a crack at a bit of sorting today. Perhaps the best thing is to focus on one area... (Any tips from super efficient Kim and Aggie types greatly appreciated!!)
DH is painting the living room this week, so we can move my desk and teaching resources downstairs to free up "the nursery" - we did have a dining room, but have built a massive extension so dining area in the kitchen means I can have one of the reception rooms as my study/craft/tutoring/library room!!
Pram - I'm really really sorry things went badly with your DH yesterday. No advice but sending lots support!
Becca I have been on strike, everything looked like a bomb site until couple of weeks a go, my DH broke in the end and did some 'tidying up'. I had done the washing but when he 'tidied' the bedroom, I discovered he had been using his side of the bedroom floor as a laundry basket so my lovely empty laundry basket (I had literally emptied that day) was instantly full. After two weeks of ignoring it, I had a sulk, told DH I was sick of doing the washing... I am currently doing the washing now.. such a push over!
My advise, you can live in a messy house but you can't go out naked, well you can but its not as warm as it was a few weeks ago!!
Becca Write a list breaking everything up and tackle one at a time. If you see anything else while you're going on, don't let it distract you, just add it to your list. Have lots of breaks!
Becca I'm making lists, but can't do anything yet as we take possession of our new house in just under a month. We also have the last of our guests due this weekend, and then several quiet weekends which mean we can finally start packing and sorting our what's going with us and what is going to the tip.
The great thing is that 2 close friends are also pregnant, one due the month before me and one after, and we're all looking to move into roughly the same area - which would be amazing!
Good luck Moosey, Rock and Frank
Bit of a TMI question - but has anyone had a really gloopy (like clear snot) discharge?
I've had it the last few days and it seems really quite odd
MTB I have especally after DTD, I believe its just your body keeping things clean up there to prevent any infections spreading up into your cervix.
Quick opinion gauging...am I completely mad to be moving house while pregnant???
Found you all!!!
Don't even get me started on housework.... I'm fine with all the washing, but the smell of toilet cleaner does not sit well. It's about time mrM did some housework anyway
Thanks F&T that might explain it - I finally had a good day on Sunday and DTD
Jolleigh - I'm moving house, so I don't think you're mad, but I wouldn't do it towards the end of my pregnancy... Taht said I would rather do it pregnant than with a new born
Hi all! Thought id check in as have not been on Fred in ages!
Hope everybody is well. Got my dating scan Tues. Fx'ed only one monkey in there...
How is everybody symptom wise?
Have horrid constipation here... Yuk. And feeling quite emotional. Am having a panic about this baby deep down. Things like how will I cope, and will my ds love his new bro or sis? Ergh so many silly doubts!
Ugh. Took me bloody ages to find this thread and only then 'cos I appealed to the Martians on fb for help.
MTB, I am joining you in a chippy lunch; I'm going to have chips and gravy on a barm cake <salivates>
Joll, lots of women do it; it's not ideal but my house gets demolished in a few weeks so I have to shift my arse pretty soon. Are you moving far? Will the new house need decorating? <shudders at the very thought>
Jealous of all those DTD. My husband is completely frigid when I'm pregnant
Just spent £56 in sainsburys on school stuff and fruit, veg and milk. How does that happen?! Both kids needed wellies, dd needed cardigans and tights, lunch boxes and bottles too. No money for the weekend now .
I'm feeling particularly pukey today and absolutely starving. Just had 2 crumpets with marmite and I want another 2.
I'm doing one room a day and completely ignoring anything unnecessary like the spare bedroom/office. DP's been doing some washing which is unheard of! I think he was running out of underwear.
Joll I moved 300 miles at 34 weeks pg last time and it was absolutely fine. Much better than doing it during the knackering first trimester or with a newborn. We had no problems at all.
thanks everyone, think it's 5am's scan day too so there's four of us today!!
prammy sorry to hear he's been such an idiot, hopefully it'll give you a chance to get your head together more if nothing else!
jol as long as it's not you doing the moving i think you'll be fine, i'm moving in october (lease runs out) and won't be lifting a finger, it's perhaps good timing ;)
maybe we could 'report' this thread and get mums net to put thread 5 in the title? also maybe if we report the other one they'd kindly put a message on thread four saying 'here's thread 5' as it's a bit of a pain to find!
on the first post on this one i've sent:
'please can you amend the title to March 2014 - thread 5 - Dating scans in full swing
(people aren't finding it and it's a bit confusing!)'
on the last post on the other one I've sent:
'hello, would it be possible that you add a message at the end of this thread with a link to thread 5 please - http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a1833122-March-2014-Dating-scans-in-full-swing
people can't find the new thread!
The move is in 2 weeks so it's first trimester unfortunately but I really didn't want to do it heavily pregnant and the layout of my house right now would make keeping the dog away from the baby a nightmare.
It's only down the road about a mile away from where we are but the area is infinitely better as I live on a street where nobody seems to have a concept of what time is appropriate to stop fucking shouting and unfortunately we get a lot of boy racers...the new place is much more peaceful. There's even a tree outside lol.
I'm definitely going to end up having to lift things unfortunately. Got quite a bit of muscle on me though so I'm hoping it's the same as other exercise...the more usex to it you were before pregnancy, the less risky during?
I meant 'used to it' not 'usex'. Nothing on my mund at all
Another one whose parter is being a frigid twat here
Mind! Jesus my phone typing is appalling.
Good luck with all the scans today. I'm 11+4 today. I'm having a lot of twingy pains today, they are uncomfortable rather than very painful. Do you think it is just stretching or more serious? No bleeding or anything.
Jolleigh 'usex' - and I agree, better to move now and get settled before the baby arrives. I moved at 6mo last time. Was fine. Be careful with the lifting though- and maybe try to pack in smaller boxes so lighter than fewer, larger boxes.
Owlina I think others have had those and said they're normal. Uterus growing or something.
No nanechange then Grey? Good luck today, lovey.
<sigh> better get back to my spread sheets.
Found you all!! Re moving house, I moved at 15 weeks pregnant, then again with an 18 month old and pregnant was the far easier choice!!
Joll the risks of lifting heavy things is more to do with injuring yourself because of the relaxin hormone, not to do with hurting the baby so just be careful
Trees outside houses are lovely <hippy>
Laughing my head off at 'frigid twat' I like a bit o' swearing, me.
Owlongwillyoubeonthebog, don't fret, my love, this is entirely normal. At weeks 10 & 11 I had some very odd twanging and pulling sensations.
Thanks for the tips ladies!
Re: moving, a friend of mine is due September, she moved about 4 weeks ago! I am AMAZED by how much they have got done since they moved (and absolutely GREEN with envy, we've lived here for 3 years and it is still a project!). I can only assume that pregnancy is a real incentive to get things done, I am hoping that the closer you get to the due date, the more we get done...
Ah well if the risk is more to me, I have no issue. I'm always bloody hurting myself anyway...still seem to have a pulled
arse bum muscle which is causing endless amusement
Ooh, shiny new thread!
pram, I'm so sorry that your
DH behaved like such a cucking funt. I read your post open-mouthed at the level of his delusion. No advice to offer, just moral support.
Good luck all scannees, and congrats to yesterday's lot; it's so lovely to see all the pics on Facebook.
I had my booking in appointment this morning which went well. Classified as low risk, at least for now... MW is dating the pregnancy from my last period, rather than from the early scan, which isn't always very reliable, so according to that I am 10 + 5, instead of 9 + 4. Given that I don't so much have a menstrual cycle as a menstrual random number generator, I'm inclined to believe the scan more, but all will become clear at the dating scan. I'm expecting a letter soon with a date, and can't wait cos I feel like once I've had my scan it will seem more definite, and we can finally go public!
Joll, I moved at 7 months pg with DS2. It wasn't a huge problem. I just let everyone else do the work and shouted instructions
Pram, how are you feeling today? Hope you weren't up half the night thinking.
Good luck scanees. Looking forward to more pics on FB.
I had my first middle of the night wee last night. I fear it's the first of many. Last time I was pg we had a downstairs bathroom so I kept an old fashioned china potty under the bed for night wee purposes
Mummypig, now I want crumpets with marmite but I have no crumpets
Think I'm going to go to Mothercare to look at baby stuff. I'm not going to buy anything yet but I want to start choosing. Unfortunately most of my baby stuff is in the loft of the house dickhead XP lives in (our old family house) and whether I get it back or not will depend on how much of a bastard he chooses to be. He might say I can't have it just to spite me. I wouldn't put anything past him anymore.
I don't know if I'm being paranoid, but I announced my news on FB (rl one) and although I've had many likes and comments some people have completely ignored it. Maybe they disapprove? I find it odd. It's big news, not "what I had for dinner" like so many people's fb posts.
MTB, I've been getting that snot-like discharge pretty much from day 1. It's totally normal.
On DTD, sorry some of your OHs are being frigid. My DP worries that we might be hurting the baby but I reassure him that bubs is well cushioned in there and wont know what we're doing. So no reduction in activity here
Anyway, I'm 41, #3, 13+2, edd February 25th after hospital adjusted it but I shall be sticking around here if that's ok by y'all.
Was I buggery up half the night, Lyra...slept like a bleddy log.
Hey Chatterboxes!! New thread already!
Just skimmed the last few days and I can also say
1. Craving crumpets with tonnes of
butter, also on the list is lumps of cheese and chips. And last night I wanted a mug of gravy!! I normally eat so well!
2. Window shopping at mother care. I also cannot resist. Have also 'chosen' a pram at kiddicare!
3. sex - I am completely off it. I feel too tired. I work long hours so when I get home I just eat and sleep!
Congratulations to all the happy scans. Still waiting for a date. I am ten weeks and four days today. Phoned to chase it up and they said I'll be getting it at 13/14 weeks. Grrrrr
What's DTD ?
My OH is not being frigid per se but is leaving it to me to make moves. So don't know if he's not interested or being overly sensitive.
Ive heard there's a mothercare store with a testing circuit for buggies. Definitely want to give that a go.
Can't wait to hear about today's scanees! we're just living vicariously thru you.
DTD means doing the deed
Currently have an overwhelming craving for pecan plait pastries. Clearly I need protein and sugar... I'm off to the shops then....mmm...
ice i cant think of anything really, maybe it should be another colour animal combo?
I've just found out they don't do the nuchal test at the hospital I'm at which I'm a bit about.
mimili we're on pram talk on the fb, i couldn't help myself...
also on the subject of moving I GET TO GO HOMEEE! i hate cities so much and cannot wait to be back in the countryside with my animals, tractors stopping me getting anywhere on time, millions of old people and the smell of farms and poo. if you thought i wasn't country enough we also book the wurzels numerous times each year. ooh arr.
grey will join Facebook just as soon as I've had my scan! Hate missing out!!!
justmuddling I too had a craving for pastry this am, sadly it is not something I will be able to have... ever. I am Gluten/dairy free. Please enjoy one on my behalf. * Reaches for the carrot sticks and hummous *
My DP also frigid due to totally irrational baby-damaging fears... and he's a medical professional FFS!
But since he has been coming up with such gems as...
you've put on too much weight
you've really let yourself go
it's your baby
we're not getting married in case you take my flat
... I am not too bothered by the lack of sex at the moment.
Called him a c**t and now we're both sulking, thinking the other is unreasonable.
Just read this on a pregnancy app. Some of them are so utterly ridiculous. I wonder if people actually believed them:
Here are some surprising and popular myths when it comes to predicting your baby's gender.
You're more likely to be carrying a boy if...
Your baby's heartbeat is lower than 140 beats per minute.
You're carrying all out front.
You're carrying low.
You're blooming in pregnancy.
You didn't suffer from morning sickness in your first trimester.
Your right breast is bigger than your left.
You look at yourself in the mirror for at least a minute and your pupils dilate.
You crave salty food or protein, such as cheese and meat.
Your feet become cold more quickly than before you were pregnant.
You tie your wedding ring to some thread, hang it over your stomach and it moves in circles.
Your skin becomes dry.
You combine your age at the time of conception with the number of the month you conceived and the resulting number is even.
Your hair has become more full-bodied and shiny during pregnancy.
The hair on your legs has been growing faster during pregnancy.
You are more prone to headaches.
Your pillow faces north when you sleep.
You're asked to show your hands and you present them palms down.
You lie on your left side when sleeping.
Your urine is bright yellow.
You were the more aggressive partner during love-making when you conceived.
You eat a clove of garlic and the smell seeps out of your pores.
Your previous child's first word was "dada".
You're more likely to be having a girl if...
Your baby's heartbeat is faster than 140 beats per minute.
You're carrying all round.
You're carrying high.
You've missed the "blooming" period altogether.
You suffered morning sickness during your first 12 weeks.
Your left breast is bigger than your right.
You look at yourself in the mirror for at least a minute, but your pupils don't dilate.
You crave sweet things, such as juice, fruit and sweets.
You tie your wedding ring to some thread, hang it over your stomach and it swings from side to side.
Your skin is soft.
You are more moody than usual.
You're asked to show your hands and you present them palms up.
You were the less aggressive partner during love-making when you conceived.
You eat a clove of garlic, but you don't smell of it.
You combine your age at the time of conception with the number of the month you conceived and the resulting number is odd.
Your hair has become thinner and dull during pregnancy.
You lie on your right side when sleeping.
Your pillow faces south when you sleep.
Your urine is dull yellow.
Your previous child's first word was "mama".
This is interesting. It's about pregnancy and birth in the fifties.
Lyra re: announcing news on FB and getting no response from some folks. Easy to say, but please don't dwell on it. Folks I know seem to use FB very differently, from the frequent posters, to lurkers who like but don't tend to post comments or status updates (me) to those who only go on every few days/less often and seem to miss things!
I'm sure the folks you care about are dead chuffed for you.
Edamame - I've had a lot of that shite from DP as well. And every time we talk it out we fix it. Then he sleeps and it's as though we've hit the reset button. He wakes up in a foul mood barely saying 2 words to me all day. Which is frankly an impressive achievement considering we work together.
Have gone through this cycle about 5 times now...including on my birthday.
I'm unfortunately starting to mentally put together a 'going it alone' plan. This baby was planned but the resentment I'm getting is now truly ridiculous.
I hope he snaps out of it soon.
Edamame why on earth has he said those things? Are you ok?
Lyra I found second time around, people cared less about our news; third time I might not even announce it on FB as I don't think anyone will care! Don't take it personally - some people just aren't that moved by pregnancy news, or even if they are, they "like" it in their head but not on the keyboard.
I'm so tired today. DD is asleep and me and DS are snuggled up on the sofa watching A Bugs Life. Was Retch City here this morning, bit of a relief in a way as I had a symptomless day a couple of days ago but it's come back with avengance!
POP TARTS I don't normally like them but man are they hitting the spot. I just read on the packet that one pop tart = 10% of your daily calorific allowance!
So I didn't get my chips - I went out and spent every last penny I had (cash) on maternity dresses , so I resorted to a chicken korma microwave meal - only to have some skinny bint walk past me and not only tut but comment, "no wonder you're getting so fat if you keep eating that crap" WIBU to slap her skinny arse into next week?
As an aside - if anyone has a few hours to kill, and wants to have a giggle,this thread got me through my pregnancy last time round Well worth the read
Edamame and Joll that's terrible! Why are they being such dicks?
Pirates I haven't had a pop tart since I was a kid! Have you burnt the roof of your mouth?!
Sorry, haven't had a chance to catch up, busy at work. Hope all is well lovely Martians x
Seriously MTB? I'd have kicked her in the shins. Bitch.
Grey So exciting. Can't imagine life without tractors holding up the traffic!
Pirate That means you can eat 10 . Go go go!
Sorry to hear about rubbish DPs. Look after yourselves.
I can't work out if I feel better or if I'm just so used to feeling crap that I've stopped noticing it.
I'm still alive! I think. It's possible I died and am in hell. I'm still completely fucked by this morning sickness. I don't even mind the spewing anymore, it's the long long build ups to the spewing that are so awful. I'm still in bed about 20 hours a day - just getting up to eat dinner and throw it up again. And I can't swallow the cyclizine. Thank God for my Mum who is bringing me food and doing all the housework!
Everyone has worked it out too. Everyone at work and all my family. No-one's really saying anything to me though, possibly incase I spew on them.
Got scan a week Tuesday, but struggling to get excited about the whole pregnancy thing as feel so shit.
OK, pity party over.
Edamame that's really harsh of your DP - I can see why DTD isn't high on your priority list.
Thankfully DP's attitude to this pregnancy is very different from the last where he would constantly comment about my excess weight, not he does comment occasionally, but more frequently buys me tubs of ice cream to cheer me up.
Oh my god edamame and jolleigh, that's horrible! If my dh said anything like that he'd get a slap. Are they both maybe freaking out at the prospect of being a dad? Not that that excuses it in any way, but I'm hoping neither of them would dare treat you like that normally
Would some kind of pre-natal counselling be of use?
I can't believe anyone would comment negatively on a pregnant woman's weight, let along their partner. Wow, my DH is suddenly looking like a saint.
Edam, is your partner Aspergers?
Jolls, is your fella depressed?
I'm not being facetious; I truly am shocked at that stuff (although nowhere near as shocked as I am at my shower of shit of a man).
MTB, I've just finished my chip butty with gravy. Outstanding. I have no words to describe that girl who abused you
fucking swamp donkey
<waves to MaybeIt'sMaybelline> <plagiarist>
Why does my stomach hurt so much after eating? And then I get painful trapped gas that keeps me awake all night burping? Is this indigestion?
Fox, you poor bastard. That sounds grimmer than grim. I hope things improve.
Last night, when I called my OH a cunt he retorted: 'you're a fat sweat!' I can grin because I am categorically not fat
although I may stink
Fox, it's called 'pregnancy'
Oh shit, there must be something I can do?!
I have relented to going home from work sick today after being off for 2 of my shifts in the last week aswell.
I'm moving house on Saturday, no choice as tenancy runs out end of August and its the only day my husband is off work at same time as me, although now I'll probably be off work sick. Nothing is packed, had an emotional crying outburst earlier as there were no vans with a tail lift available for this Saturday so broke down to hubby on the phone as he's useless at organising anything without prompting. Thankfully we now have an alternative van and my dad is coming up to help us move as I have to stop moving every hour to sit down and hurl. (And he won't let me lift anything!- which I'm secretly quite pleased with as I hate moving, don't mind unpacking though)
Scan is Tuesday can't wait to check everything is ok and finally let everyone know why I've been off work and been a grumpy emotional mess recently!
To be fair, there is usually quite a lot of teasing and general piss taking in our relationship. Normally it's funny.
But it's very annoying at the moment because every time it happens I say very explicitly that my body is awash with pregnancy hormones, I am feeling more sensitive and emotional than usual, and as you well know, it is normal for women to put on weight in pregnancy so please stop making jokes about me putting on weight when I am still only a size 10...
And then it happens again and again, exactly like you say Joll
Edamame & jolly u r not alone; we had a sex related sulk this morning. DH woke me up digging in (as they do). So I offered him and he REFUSED on the basis that apparently I didn't want it anyway and had been frigid ever since we finished SMEP. Er ok , admittedly my libido has suffered...by the third trimester if it's anything like last time I'll be constantly on heat. But don't look that gift horse in the mouth now! Men are such fuckwits.
I also stink. I have abandoned deodorant because the smell makes me puke & every time I brush my teeth I puke too. I'm truly grim.
Oh Bec that's the last thing you need bet some rest today if you can. It'll be a relief to let everyone know.
I also cannot imagine MrM ever commenting on my weight during pregnancy. It's just not fair. I'd go on strike ladies. Leave then to fend for themselves.
<flutters eyelashes at Prambam>
Fox that's shit. I too was really suffering after I ate. So now I make dinner last hours. It really helps. And a peppermint tea if you can stomach it.
Pram - I can only assume so right now. He flat out refuses to go to the docs, counselling, anything that might help. He also refuses to pull his finger out of his arse and stop getting the pregnant woman to practically cut up his food for him. I'm quite literally doing everything. And I'm trying my hardest to get this fixed but there's going to come a point where my physical ailments mean I need to slow down. I'm physically and emotionally exhausted.
On top of that he frequently has his nasty hat on. He complained yesterday that I never to what I'm told any more. All I could respond is 'that isn't tge type of relationship I agreed to be part of'. He also said the reason he isn't giving me any affection is because the way HE gives affection is 'playing' with my boobs. And my boobs are too sore so he isn't giving me anything. (tmi, but his playing isn't in the slightest bit gentle).
He frequently gets like this when he doesn't get his way, even if it's something irrelevant. I just hadn't thought his selfishness would extend to what's supposed to be the happiest time in our lives.
Thanks No Maybe I'll take that on board.
I didn't know you could use bold and italics
does it work the other way too?
Not aspie, pram, just twatty at the moment.
Fox, Maybe I do think it's temporary though v annoying, and probably to do with fear and/or power - in a normal subconscious / psychological way.
Massively cheered up by this thread though. You guys are awesome!
Do we have any scan reports today?
Jolls and and What on earth are you going to do with that creature?
I don't know about you, Jolls, but I feel like I'm rapidly falling out of love. It's an awful feeling
I have a report after 'scanning' Inside Soap magazine: Liz MacDonald returns next week and runs the Rovers with son, Steve.
It's horrendous Pram and the timing of his behaviour really couldn't be worse. We planned this baby. But the way things are going, I certainly wouldn't subject a child to him.
I'm just hoping he improves soon and realises what a twat he's being.
Fox sounds like you're having a horrible time, you poor love. Hopefully seeing baby next week will cheer you up.
Fox I 2nd the peppermint tea or fennel, also try to cut down on sugary things as they can cause more bloating. A warm bath may help everything relax, if you know what I mean, probably a hot water bottle would do the same thing.
As for the deodorant get an Alum block they don't smell of anything you run it under the tap and then rub. It isn't a antiperspirant just deodorant I have used one for years and works fine for me.
Edamame - definitely hope it's just temporary for you. Though I have to say, some of the comments he's already said would be the tipping point for me. The man must have a death wish saying that to a pregnant woman!
Good to see you making full use of your time there Pram
fox I totally know what you mean. I am very stinky, which makes me feel sick, but washing also makes me feel sick... It's a nightmare.
So sorry to hear that there are so many men problems on the thread today. My DHs worst flaw is that he leaves stuff everywhere and never picks it up. Not much in comparison so feeling quite lucky.
My DP was really freaked out at the start Edamame- didn't say anything directly like that to me but was really distant at a time I wanted to talk about so many things. I knew he'd come round when he bought a baby blanket. Might just need time.
I'm new here and 10+6 got my scan on 30th August and really can't wait. Been having loads of weird dreams about scans and heartbeats. Anyone having the same?
fox joll edam sorry you are having a shitty time.
I can't wear perfume at the moment, it makes me feel sick. On top of already feeling sick. I was up at 4 this morning so I feel knackered.
hoopins welcome, your scan is two days after mine. I can't say I am having dreams about the scan but deffo dreams about how I am going to cope with new baby. It's just your brain trying to process things.
Best of luck for you scan.
I had a weird breast feeding dream the other night... I was really sad when I woke up that the baby won't be here for another 6 months!!
Welcome Hoopins no dreams yet this pregnancy, I recall the last one were horrid
Thanks everyone . This is my first and dreams at the start were all demon baby who hates me, but those have gone now thankfully!
Apprentice - hmm...seems this is more common than I thought.
Poor you Fox, hope the puking resolves soon
Welcome Hoops - and congratulations!
Hoopins, best you don't read We Need To Talk About Kevin
I saw the film lyraSilvertongue and that was freaky enough!
I opened a petty cash tin this morning and even the smell of money knocked me sick - just looking at dried fruit has the same effect. At least the baby's too big now to be compared to something like a raisin or prune.
Heyheyhey peoples.....hope yoyr all doing well.....found you at last
I have been feeling rotten alI day and was sent home from work after fainting today. Been lying down for a while and still feel rotten
Just need to get up now as I have a doctor's appointment at 5. I expect my blood pressure has dropped but they want to check. Hope its nothing to worry about.
How did everyones scans go? My oh gets a erm gun in his pocket everytime he sees my belly he cant keep his hands off my wobbly bits! Very odd! Xx
I got my scan date through on 3 sep, when I will be 14+2! :/ very rude person on phone told me that that's the earliest they can see me
Sorry I didn't get back to everyone after their kind words of reassurance etc ( I know, I'm a hypocrite!) ha ha. This moves so fast and as I was so busy over the weekend I have struggled to keep up! Pram sorry to hear about your other half. Sounds like your better without him tbh. Well done to all those with successful scans! Can't wait for mine next week. Please can someone send me the link to the FB group or tell me the name so I can join and look at all these photos? Thank you x
Lamb send greymoose a pm with your Facebook link and she'll add you
Surprised my scan is on the 3rd too! Not long to wait now but rubbish that you've had to wait so long. I'll be 12 weeks.
Mimi hope you're feeling better soon lovely.
Does anyone else find that they are eating later and later because you'll do anything not to get on and cook? Cooking makes me feel extraordinarily unenthusiastic about eating. We have eaten no earlier than 8pm (we ususally eat between 7-7.30) and 9.20pm has been my latest tea time this week.
I have discovered that although genrally I am feeling less nauseous eating mayonnaise (my one and only vice of food I have left) brings it back big time
Welcome Hoops. Where
the fuck have you been? Your description of money in a tin made me feel sick, too. I used to be a stripper and some of the notes the punters used to hand me after a dance would have all sorts stuck to them (and stink of piss) so I've never liked the sight of them since.
I have just woken up from a 3-hour 'nap'. I've missed all the scans. All good?
I never thought I would do this to my facebook friends but I can't resist.
Eurgh piss money! I've been surviving up to now by just looking at a pregnancy app which tells me really useful stuff like it's safe to use a computer Glad to finally be able to talk to people at the same stage as me.
hoop My DH was showing me that the other day, we had a right laugh about it.
Pram Love the alternative write up on pregnancy, but I wont be sharing on FB, not planning an announcement. Hoping to get through as much of my pregnancy with as few people knowing as possible (maybe I'm weird). Was that the first thing you've shared or had you already mentioned it?
Comms&greymoose sorry but how do I send a pm on here?? Lol
F&T, I announced my pregnancy on fb on Tuesday after my 12 wk scan. I never thought I'd share something as tacky as a 'baby's progress' chart but, hey... <shrugs>
Lamb, go to the top of the page to 'my mumsnet', use the drop-down to find 'inbox' and send a message there.
Update for everyone.
twatty OH managed to continue with his a attempt to not say a full sentence to me all day. To the extent that he sat in the car outside and let me to the weekly shop alone. Called my mum while in the shop and nearly burst into tears.
I've now gone out. Not sure where yet but more importantly, he's not bothered where or if I'm coming back.
I obviously made an uber fuck up planning a baby with this stranger of a man.
Oh...I also suspect he's snooped into what my MN username is and is googling for thread hits. So...say hello to my fiancé all. Doesn't give enough of a shit to ask me, but is certainly controlling enough to spy on me.
Frank, how was your scan?
To all the pukers out there; what's the worst thing to come back up for you?
mine so far....cereal and milk - literally coming straight back up, milky vomit hmmm lovely.
Omelette and homemade chips - ate too quickly and too much therefore lots of chunks! Reminds me of my student drinking days.
And then just now, a well chewed apple, not drank much today so literally had apple mush stuck in my throat and its now burning.....when will this end!
I'm hoping the chicken and noodle stir fry OH is making for me will stay down now.
11 weeks 3 days today
Oh, Jolls, my love, I am deeply sorry you are being brought low by this man. I'm not going to slag him off - that's your job - but please pm me if you want to meet up for moral support at the weekend. I'm only a couple of bus rides away from you or you can come here if you prefer. Just an offer of friendship, that's all xx
hi everyone, i am completely lost. cant keep up with the speed of the threads! Congratulations to everyone who have had scans
Thanks for the offer Pram I may just end up taking you up on it! I really am fuming. If his pregnant fiancé isn't his priority, he seriously will not be mine. The stress is crippling.
Have any of today's scanees checked in yet?
commsgirl yey a scan buddy!
[becface] with you on cereal and milk. so grim second time round! today was a fruit and spinach juice. green puke is also disgusting!
Sorry for the delay all! Scan was great, baby was all wriggly and it took a while to get all the measurements but all looks great and measuring bang on for my dates. All systems go!
Joll, what a time to be going through this. Was he like this pre-pregnancy or has his behaviour become worse recently? My XP was controlling and sulky and it's soul-destroying. So much so that it took me years to gather the strength to leave him. Do you think things might change or are you drifting towards the end?
Rosy, they have on FB. Mixed news.
What do you all think I should do about my due date? I'm sure of when I conceived but my scan has put me a week ahead. This wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't for the fact that I'm planning to have an elective section, which will be done in week 39 but I'll only actually be in week 38 and I don't want bubs yanked out any earlier than is necessary. Should I insist the hospital uses my dates when deciding when to do cs?
Lyra - he's never been this bad. Always a bit moody but some people just are. It's gotten gradually worse since we found I'm pregnant.
If this continues I just don't see it lasting much longer. I keep hoping he's going to snap out of it so I can start enjoying some of my pregnancy and we can carry on being as happy as we were before.
Frank, such lovely, lovely news. Are you coming over to faceache?
Jolls, are you ready for a 'crisis talk' with him or would he point-blank refuse one?
I wish Rockchick would check in...
Lyra, I would only rely on my own dates if I knew from temping when ovulation was. I wouldn't believe ov pain. Sorry.
The deja vu argument unfortunately IS the crisis talk. Half of why it's so gutting when he hits the reset button and continues to be a shit the next day.
Unbelievably frustrating, Jolls. The bloody million-dollar question: are you in love with him? Is he in love with you?
With his behaviour I don't see how he can be in love with me. I certainly love him but not at my own expense...I can't let things carry on like this.
It's not just the pain though Pram. It's also the change in cm, sore boobs etc. also my ovulation date ties in with my lmp. Their date just doesn't fit at all. I think I'll trust my own body and insist they go with my date.
Joll, has he given any reason, such as nervousness at becoming a dad and the responsibility that comes with it?
I'm given different reasons every 10 minutes...half of them directly conflicting with the others.
Maybe he doesn't know himself why he's feeling and acting the way he is. If you really love him, don't write him off yet but do make sure he knows in no uncertain terms that you find his behaviour unacceptable and won't put up with it forever.
Jolls, can you tell him to leave for the weekend so you can decide if you want to carry him in this relationship any longer?
I'm thinking if he doesn't give his head a wobble by tomorrow evening I'll probably stay with friends myself to get away from things.
Fab news Frankel!
I would insist on your date Lyra - and I say that because I am in the same boat and that's what I will be doing if they
move my due date! DD was hauled out at 40+1 and wasn't ready. I wouldnt want to actively choose a 38 weeker.
My OH is moving out next week when he has the week off work. He hasn't found anywhere yet and has a shite credit rating so there's no way he'll be able to rent through an estate agent <shrugs>
Rockchick I hope you're ok. Please let us know, lovey.
Jolls ugh, men can be crap. I've no advice to offer apart from share away m'dear. Having seen how thoughtful and supportive folks have been to prambo I feel this is a good place. However if you think he's spying on your MN name, perhaps a cheeky nanechange is in order? We'll figure out who you are
Pram, what happens if be can't rent somewhere? Does he have people he can stay with?
He'll have saved the link to the thread so not much point.
Besides, how ever will he snoop for home truths if I name change?
I'm so sorry to hear about all the shit you lovely lot are having to put up with. I agree with Ice, share away.
Prambamthankyoumaam is this all final now? Do you think there can be any coming back from it?
can I be a pain and ask again for info on how to join fb group? I just can't find old link thank you!
Lyra, there is no option but for him to leave. I won't feel oppressed in my own home. I've told him he will have to take a room in a shared house. Maybe, after last night's debacle there is no way I can move forward with him. He would have to do a lot better than that shower of shit and he is currently squirrelled away in his stinking Bat Cave. I'm off to stay at my mate's tomorrow night.
Such a sad situation all round, Pram. I wish this hadn't happened to you Hope you have fun at your friend's. A change of scenery will do you good.
Here for you all the way Pram. Sometimes there are no other options. xx
Mmmmm chocolate mousse. In bed. Mmmm.
And before anyone starts with the 'can't eat chocolate mousse when preggers' stuff, this is an aero chocolate mousse dessert. I doubt it has anything raw and non-processed in it, let alone an egg
Oooh, I love a bit of chocolate mousse! Not a big fan of the processed ones though, so having to do without currently. I just replace it with cake instead
Having said that, I totally cocked up at the weekend and had lemon meringue pie, completely forgetting about the whole 'no raw egg' thing.... We seem to have survived, but I need to concentrate a little harder perhaps!
It is very, very sad, Lyra, but not life-shattering like alcoholism. I've got the tools to deal with anything in life now I am sober (and thanks to nine months of daily therapy in rehab. It was like finding gold; the therapists were that good)
Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm here! Scan was perfect... Eventually... Funny story actually!
Scan was booked for 4pm. I'd written it on my calendar as 4pm, I'd told everyone it was 4pm, I'd arranged a lift off my dad for 3.30 so plenty of time to get to the hospital and park up.
3.29 I'm getting my shoes on, decide to dig out the scan letter from my bounty pack... Scan Thursday 22nd August... 3pm!!! Cue me panicking, stressing, ringing the ultrasound department in a flap. Nurse (or whoever) tells me sorry, last scan is at 3.30 so can't scan you today, may be a bit of a wait for new appointment. I end up sobbing telling her all about previous MMC and she agrees to scan 2pm tomorrow. Still in a huge flap, DH can't get tomorrow off work, and I was so stressed in case bad scan again that I ended up in a panic attack
Ring round all the private clinics google can find me, none can fit me in. Leave my number in case any cancellations, tell them the saga of it all.
Plan had been to go for a meal with my parents, DH and DS following scan so we went for this as planned, me looking like utter shit with puffy face, red eyes and burst blood vessels under my eyes
so sexy. Get a phone call while there from closest scan clinic, 5 mins walk from the restaurant... Willing to stay open and do me a quick scan after hours!! Turns out the owner is friends with my sister and she rang him coz she knew how upset I was!
8pm finally get scan. I expected quick 2 min appointment, got full dating scan, measurements checked, heard heartbeat etc. They wouldn't take any payment either, favour to sister, they were so lovely!! Also got 10 different photos!!! Have booked in for gender scan there, they were amazing, and I'm literally bouncing off the walls with happiness!!!
So pleased to hear your news, Rock xx
Yep, how lucky am I??? Meant to say Pram and Joll (and anyone else from ooop north) I'd be up for a Manchester Martians coffee if anyone else fancies meeting up?
That's amazing news Rock
Pram I'm pleased you've got things straight in your head. Once you have your head around something, the rest follows.
Just, don't worry about the egg. As long as you use lion stamped eggs, you can't get salmonella, as the eggs are vaccinated.
Getting the time wrong is the sort of thing I do. Glad you got it sorted in the end.
RockPaperScissors, I am so up for a meet-up. I know Comms & Jolls are a short distance from Manchester. I'm a 50 minute bus ride away
bear send a private message to greymoose, she'll sort you out with FB!
Rock omg what a day!!!! [makes mental note to check scan time next week] you must be absolutely exhausted now but you'll sleep well I'm sure. Congrats lovely x
Prammy you are made of some strong stuff Missus.
Only 2 pop tarts today.
Yay for amazing sisters and their friends rock! So glad it turned out well. I'm so paranoid about getting dates & times wrong for appointments, I even had a mini flap this morning before my booking appointment, thinking i'd got something wrong!
PiratesEatPopTarts, I'm not quite as hard as I make out but I'm certainly not to be messed with <kisses guns>
You're all watching Celebrity Big Brother, aren't you? <accusatory>
Excellent news rock! But what a palava!
Pram I don't generally know any of the celebrities, so sorry but no!! Who is on it this time?
CBB? Ack, no. I'm watching Celebrity Masterchef on iPlayer. The definition of celebrity gets looser by the day. And it should be renamed amateurchef. None of this bunch has a clue about cooking.
I was wondering where everyone had gone, pram!
Oooh, it's going to be great fun: Janice & Les Battersby from Corrie; that transexual who used to be an antiques toff when he was a little boy; Sophie Anderton; Louis Spence; Carol McGiffin; Ron Atkinson & some other fools.
I'm working at the charity shop tomorrow (sigh).
Ooh! Manchester Martians Meet! Definitely a great idea give me a time and place.
We'll work it out on facecrack, yeah?
hellooooo, haven't been able to get on here for some reason (been on my phone!) scan all went well and have announced to the world (Facebook...)!
I've sent you my Facebook link etc in a private message lamb sorry for the delay! anyone else want to be added?
maybe we should do a south/southwest one too - maybe bristol/bath/ even reading kinda in the middle but i suppose we're all a bit spread out, open to ideas if anyones up for something xx
Wow that's great rock so lucky!
grey I live near reading so would be up for a down south ish meet.
Starting to worry about my scan now, what if the baby has died and my body just doesn't realise?
Mummy I'm so there woth you on the scan front, I have minimal symptoms, no bump to speak of which is addong to my paranoia! How many more days of worry gor you? Hope you got some sleep (noticed the time of your post).
Long day for me today, so probs won't check in. But here's to a day of no MS, no rude colleagues commenting on weight gain, politeness on public transport and no probs from bastard men! Have a good one ladies x
I updated on the Facebook page as had our scan yesterday. Baby is alive and kicking but we have a very high nuchal and referral for diagnostic tests. Went through this with DD and she turned out to be clear but my main thoughts now are that there may be a chromosome issue that wasn't identified for her and we will have to wait and see what that means for this little one. DD had lots and lots of cuddles from us both yesterday.
So glad everyone else's scans are going well even if some of your DP's aren't! What makes them plan a child and then behave like idiots?
I think it's time I went over to the Datk Side too. Can you PM me too greymoose? Thanks!
5am what a worry for you! If it was something you went through with your DD do you think maybe its normal for you, even if it's higher than average? What happens next, will it be CVS?
Mummy and Faith I've had no symptoms really for the last week or so
well, forgetfulness maybe no morning sickness any more, dizziness has eased off, appetite has stabilised. Also had some light period-type pains. Yet everything was perfect, think its just the start of the second trimester. Missed miscarriage is actually pretty rare, its just that a lot of women (myself included) who experience it want to be able to talk about it with others who have been through it, and want to know they aren't the only one. So its a false sense of how often it occurs when you read online about it.
Who is it scan day for today? DOUBLE CHECK YOUR APPOINTMENT TIMES PEOPLE!!!!
I've got another 3 weeks until my scan
Very glad we had an early scan, I'd be going crazy if I hadn't seen the baby yet. 3 weeks is going to drag!!
greymoose, I live in Bristol, so would be well up for a south west meet up! I don't drive though, so not sure if I'd want to go all the way to Reading on the train. Maybe split it into two meetings, say one in Reading/London and one in Bath/Bristol? People can go to either or both.
Best of luck to all scannees today; hope to see lots of wriggly scans this evening
Thanks f&t and rock. I have symptoms, I still feel sick and have sore nipples, poss a small bump forming but I have a fat tummy anyway! I don't know, I'm just worried. I have 8 days left till my scan and I can't wait. I just want to tell people and get it over with so they understand why I've not been around much lately and have been quiet.
Raspberry I'm with you - had a bit of a panic and called my ultrasound department and they moved me forward 8 days. But I still have to wait 3 weeks :-(
Mummy I'm having the same panic, my boobs and bump have deflated a little and add the fact the my morning sickness is starting to drop off, I'm really panicking that something has happened
Oh and would happily do a south/south west meet up.
I live outside Reading, but work in London so either work for me
Mummy, the days immediately prior to a scan are horrendous; it's when all logic goes out the window and irrationalities come flooding in. Take courage that MMC is rare.
I had the worst nausea ever last night and it actually precluded any sleep. Horrid.
What a worrying time for you 5am.
Mummy, I am scared of that too but it's far, far, far more likely that everything is completely fine. I only heard about mmc on MN since getting pg, never in RL. Before U/S scans were available, we wouldn't have given it much, if any, thought. for you too!
Edam, do you love edamame beans or summat? Are you, by default, thin?
The days before my scan I got myself in a tizz googling things about MMC.
It's so difficult not to think about the worst case scenario, but the odds of anything like that happening now are so tiny compared to the odds of everything being absolutely fine.
I'm now one week and two hours away from my scan - hopefully with the bank hol weekend visiting friends (who thankfully already know i'm preg) it should go quicker. I've been having to convince myself that I am expecting because of symptoms after having only taken one (albeit pretty conclusive) test in early July!
5am thinking of you, hopefully u will get answers soon hon. Also have scan anxiety but trying to stay away from Google mn (hmm how long will this last..)till scan Monday arvo. Not sure about practicalities of real life meet ups but out of curiosity.. who is in Scotland?
Anxious about scan here too! Its on Tues but still feels like forever away.
My dsis had her dating scan yesterday and everything was fine. But that makes me feel like I'm more likely to find somethings wrong. Silly silly silly!
Either that or its gonna be twins seeing as she def has just the one in there!
Although I'm now well over 12 weeks, and the scan was all fine, we are waiting for another scan at 14 weeks to check for a specific hereditary condition before telling people. It seems a long way away! Husband understandably doesn't want to discuss anything baby-related until after the scan, so am feeling very impatient! I am a bit concerned about work next week though, especially on Tuesday where I'm at an event where I have to stand up for hours on end with no break/food/drink. Even before this I tended to feel wobbly if I didn't eat regularly and now I think I will really struggle. Hmmm.
on scan anxiety, i was 99% sure something was going to be wrong no heartbeat etc, it's just so natural to panic when it's such an important thing, positive thinking!
just messaged everyone who asked about fb so we should have a few more martians there!
southwest / londonish martian meet ups - yes that might be better to do two like just said - a reading/london one and a bristol/bath one - does this work for those around these areas - preferences? is everyone who'd be interested in either of these places on the Facebook page as it may be easier to organise on there rather than on the thread if so? let me know if you're interested but not on the fb! ooh how exciting, we might even get to see the growing bumps in real life!
Oh god I haven't done any googling! I feel like my sickness is getting worse. Not better. I used to feel sick from around 1pm, now it's more like 10am. I'm also not sleeping very well and my patience with the kids is wearing thin. I will miss them so much when they go back to school but god I would just love one day on my own.
Readin/London works for me, I can get to both easily.
I'm completely with those who are suffering from scan anxiety, I had a MC in May when I was 5 weeks, so the 7 week scan was a great reassurance, but I also lost 2 before I had DD and one was at 10 weeks and the other at 14 weeks, I keep telling myself I can't be that unlucky for it to happen again.
I keep trying to focus on the positive and tell myself it will all be ok
Reading London works for me too
London good for me too.
Ill join FB after scan next week. Pre scan jitters are awful. I was worried because nothing was happening until MS came back with a vengeance yesterday a long with bouts of tears.
So scans - is apprenticemamma next then? And then Floatyflo on Tues, and me, April13 and Lamb on Wednes - who else is next week?
I am struggling to hide bump now. Normally size 8-10; my tummy feels like its twice the size already. But I think because it's 3rd time for me and also all the retching must make it swell up! Grim. Husband is now off until the scan which is AMAZING as I really need some rest. Although he doesn't often put his blackberry down! He has done lots of cleaning this morning whilst I've been eating pop tarts (obviously).
So scans - is apprenticemamma next then? And then Floatyflo on Tues, and me, April13 and Lamb on Wednes - who else is next week?
I am struggling to hide bump now. Normally size 8-10; my tummy feels like its twice the size already. But I think because it's 3rd time for me and also all the retching must make it swell up! Grim. Husband is now off until the scan which is AMAZING as I really need some rest. Although he doesn't often put his blackberry down! He has done lots of cleaning this morning whilst I've been eating pop tarts (obviously).
Sorry about double post; don't know what happened there!
I'm on Tuesday too for my proper dating scan! I did have a sneaky scan this week though because of the bleeding. (Which has finally stopped thank goodness!)
I'm Wednesday at 11.50am, what a silly time. DH and I are going for lunch after.
Rock I will double check time/date before its too late! Glad you fot it sorted in the end.
Does everyone else have to pay for scan photos 2 photos are £4.50.
Ours are £5, but no idea how many you get. You have to put the money into a slot before you enter the room... Really odd!
Yeah, I think it's the same system here. It is a bit weird, because surely you want to check everything is ok before getting the pictures!
Ours are £5 too. Have to take pound coins so I assume it's a slot system too.
10 + 3 today and feeling a lot less like I'm going to vom all over my desk. This is normal, right? Never thought I'd be worrying about not feeling sick!
Yes I have a feeling its the same because you have to take the exact money. Strange that you have to do it before?
My MIL wants a picture of the scan but I think that is weird and dont really want to give her a copy. I feel its too personal, I have no plans to put it on FB either. Thoughts Anyone? maybe I should do a AIBU post!
I have my scan on Wednesday and I am worried, however my belly sticking out gives me a wee bit of reassurance....that said
and I am scared to say this out loud i feel like I have actually returned to being a normal human being this week, sickness, nausea and uber sensitive nipples seem to have subsided...I have even managed to make (and eat!) three dinners this week (from scratch too not just in the oven lol), that dont just consist or toast and crisps! I might even try salad again......
Also, I have no idea if I pay for pictures hmmmmm....
Comms it is normal, the plcenta starts to take over and start ( hopefully) to feel a little less yuk.
My nausea is the worst it has been and I'm 12+3. Couldn't sleep last night because of it and, like you, MummyPig, it used to start at 4pm and dissipate at 9ish. Right now I could puke for England (mind you, I have just done a two-hour shift at the charity shop and the residents in the flat above the shop are heavy weed smokers. The smell comes right into the shop and it was just vile).
Fox, have you lost loads of weight from all that vomiting? <well-jel>
I'm not looking forward to a weekend of Lurkio skulking around the house
How are things today, Jolls? x
Don't know Pram don't really know what I weigh. Think I'm about the same. I tend to spew when I have an empty stomach so I only bring up water and a bit of a biscuit or something.
Spoke too soon, I'm back in nausea city.
F&T Thanks for the reassurance. I won't be putting a scan pic on Facebook either, although DP does want to 'announce' the pregnancy which I'm happy with. Just don't want to share a picture of my insides! We've text/emailed a copy of our 8 week scan to my DPs and MIL so I guess they could print if they wanted to. It does feel a bit private/personal but they're all just excited so I'm trying not to be too precious. It's your baby though so you have to feel comfortable.
Very restrained shopping in Mothercare yesterday. I only bought a hat, a blanket, some teeny tiny socks and a little toy. Also chose the pram
Anyone else started buying yet? I feel it's too early which is why I only bought a few things that I couldn't resist.
We got a little outfit and a blanket the other day. I really want to start buying stuff properly, but am just a bit nervous!
Sorry the nausea has come back Comms. It lulls you into a false sense of security doesn't it
We've agreed not to buy anything until after the 20 week scan. We'll do lots of window shopping and research in the meantime, but I want to be confident that everything is well before we start splashing the cash.
my scan's on tuesday - 9:05am. vomming still in full force so how im going to have a full bladder by then and not puked all the water back up i have no idea!!
i've lost a stone since i found out i was pregnant simply from not being able to eat much and puking almost every day. However, deffo don't be jealous of this - i could prob lose 5 and I'd still be overweight!! once i stop vomming it'll pile on again im sure.
haven't bought a single thing yet and wasn't planning on doing until after xmas as didnt want to jinx but you've all got me thinking now.
babybear I've lost a stone too. I'd much rather be eating!
We've bought a couple of bits. I'm just trying to be relaxed. Don't want to buy anything big for practical reasons but I want to try and enjoy this pregnancy as much as I can. And I like shopping
My mum tells me she has bought a sun canopy whatsit for the pram 'for next summer'. Bloody ridiculous.
Hi Pram - a bit better but only once I made it clear that I will not allow him to make me ill with stress and if the only way to avoid that is to do this alone, I'm fully geared up to do that.
Then we started the talk about what screening tests we would like and what would happen if any came up as high risk etc. I had to cut that conversation very short. Put it this way, there's a very good reason that the law leaves that particular choice with the woman. I know those types of choices are very personal - it was more the way he was stating it - as though his opinions should be law and anyone with opposing opinions to him would automatically be wrong.
Still. Better than yesterday. Just. And he still has potential to fuck it up yet. Saw friends and family last night and have been promised the physical and emotion support should I need to get him out of the house and be helped to move house by someone.
Either way, pretty sure he's aware the ice is thin.
I would be very at that kind of talk, Jolls, can see why you put a stop to the conversation. Let's hope his behaviour is temporary and is part of adjusting to the prospect of a baby.
Anyone looking for maternity gear, H&M have got loads in the sale. I got a pair of jeans that are insanely comfortable, but then had a root through the sale rail (can't normally be bothered despite always being skint, as all the things I like tend to only be in tiny or huge sizes) and ended up with a lovely pair of harem-type pants (not full-on MC Hammer though) for £7!! Very pleased
scan today - good news
Had a viability / dating scan - it was part of the Harmony test at the Fetal Medicine Centre, not a full Down's screening scan. DP came too, all good, it was very moving to see a little heartbeat in there; we were both in tears. The Dr was great. Measuring a full week ahead on a very regular cycle so not sure what's going on there. So today I'm 11+0 not 10+0. Placenta might be at the front but too early to be sure. They gave us 7 pics, mostly 3D, which seems like absolutely loads. Going back in a couple of weeks for the Harmony blood results and the full Down's scan. Can't stop looking at the pics...
I have to pay £10 for my scan pics! £10!!!! Parking will probably be a joke too, £7 or something.
Comms the problem is it isn't just my baby its my DH's too and I dont want to upset him. I've mentioned that I don't want her to have a copy but we haven't discussed further. I feel it's our picture to show not hers, I hate the idea of her showing it to complete strangers I don't even know. I know I'm weird.
Rock Thank you for the heads up, maybe DH and I can pop into H&M after the scan next week. Do H&M do shortass maternity stuff? Not too worried yet though, 11+2 and still nothing to show for it!
Mummy that is extortion! I am not even thinking about the cost of parking, the machines take cards... don't think I need to say more!
I totally agree F&T I don't want either my MIL or my own parents showing people a picture of the inside of my womb. Also it's my baby and I want to ration exposure to the very few pictures that we get.
Is anyone carrying their notes around at this stage? I'm going away for the weekend and taking them but not been carrying them around the rest of the time.
I haven't bought anything yet. Not even thought about it. Although I had an early can that seems ages ago and it doesn't seem very real yet. Also my nausea and vom has settled so I dnt even have the awful pregnant feeling anymore which was oddly reassuring :/
Our hospital has extortionate parking charges too but there is a park right around the corner with free parking. We will park there.
I don't think you need to carry your notes around till you're nearly due. I never have before.
Our scan pics were £10 for 3. We ended up getting 6 as DH's parents are divorced and would want one each, my parents want one and we want 1 each to carry around!
The car parking at Addenbrookes is actually pretty good if you remember to get your ticket validated at the main reception. It's something like £2.50 an hour for visitors but patients can have the whole day for £3.
hi! when everyone refers to notes is this something you have already? Or is it something you get at the first scan? thanks in advance!
I have a green A4 booklet that hosp sent prior to booking appointment which I filled bits of and midwife did the rest, got to take it to all future appointments.
I got a folder from the mw. A yellow one and a blue one. Not sure why there are two.
I think I get my book/notes at my scan.
I've not bought anything but my mum has bought shawls x2 about 20 baby grows (no exaggeration), booties, socks, 2 cardigans (knitted), dh has bought a Goonies never say die and stone roses t-shirt(apparently sex doesn't matter), gran has bought a blanket and baby grows and my dd has bought a basketball net. Yes you've read that right!!! But it's ok, because its that "Chico make" so for kids...... WTF?!! Lol
Chuckling at the parents buying stuff already. My parents and inlaws are under strict instructions that it is forbidden just yet!! Although am not convinced SIL isn't buying on the sly bless her!
Hopefully I'll get my notes at the scan (whenever that will be .... still waiting Grrr!)
My mum has bought pukey cloths. Ever the practical one...
Scan day today! I didn't realise how wound up I'd got myself but all was fine. I'm 12+1 so due on March 6th. I've got to have an extra growth scan at 32wks because I'm underweight. I always have been and they've never bothered before!!!
Telling my boys tomorrow and I can't wait to see their reaction.
Lyra what pram have you chosen?? I love prams!!!
Can I join thread please? My edd is 29th March. May not post as much as I would like to in between bowts of nausea and the odd moment where im sick , even though I have empty stomach
whats that about? so tomorrow I am 9weeks which got confirmed by early dating scan. How is everyone doing on the nausea front? I guess some of you maybe getting to the end of the first trimester so hopefully its wearing off a bit now!!I hope that mine does wear off after first trimester as I really dont wanna take the anti sickness tabs ive been prescribed :0/
They say that if you have more morning sickness at the beginning you are likely to be having a girl, any experience of this?
who are they anyway?
Sorry, kinda waffled on!!
Lumpy, the Mothercare Orb. I was really impressed with it. DP doesn't know yet but he just has to pay, not offer an opinion
Glad your scan went well.
mimili my gp surgery gave me a maternity pack with a booklet to fill out to take to booking in
I have a list of banned items... Not a lunatic...
On prams we've chosen too and I want it nowwww - going shopping with my ma tomorrow too so excited!
Welcome an I I'm still waiting for the nausea to go. I get a few days off then it comes back!!!
Lyra I like the mamas and papas urbo and sola. I think it'll have to be second hand tho!!!
Welcome Abi. I'm 10 weeks and feeling more sick than ever. Hoping it eases off for us all soon.
I'm so torn about prams. Dh likes the orb, I like the buffalo but will never get it, maybe a second hand cam, I like the bee plus too and the sola. I want a moby wrap too for the first few months as I remember how much babies want to be held and I'm not going to have huge amounts of time to do that.
I had a wrap sling with ds2 it was amazing. I even used it last winter in the snow!!! Don't fork out for a Moby, have a look at Victoria the slinglady on facebook. I can't do links!!! She makes slings, they're amazing.
Welcome abi! Sorry you're going through it a bit with the MS, hope you get some respite from it soon. I have heard that bad MS means its a girl, but then Kate Middleton ended up in hospital because of it, and had a boy, so I'm not sure there's all that much truth in it!
Our only purchase so far is a babygrow with a tractor on it, which will be worn regardless of gender; well, we do live in the West Country...
Maybe I should do more research before choosing. I've only looked in Mothercare.
I'm going to dig out the Baby Bjorn that I used with DS1+2 but I quite fancy a wrap sling. They look comfier. A sling is an absolute essential for me. I could put the baby in it and get on with stuff. My two always liked being close to me as much as possible and they were very chilled babies because they were held so much, I think.
Lyra definitely get a wrap instead - they are sooo much more comfortable! Agree about Victoria Slinglady, she also sells on eBay and her own website. Just as good as a Moby but a third of the price, and can resell for near enough what you paid when you're finished with it.
Evening all. Glad scans went well.
Prams. I have no idea what any of the models you are talking snout actually are I have to admit, I'm not a fan of shopping. I'm more of a 'get a recommendation, buy it, done' kind of girl. And I hate clothes shops too. Buy almost everything online. Does that make me a complete weirdo?
I am very interested in getting a wrap sling though. I have a baby Bjorn which is great for walks and that kind of thing, but not super comfy for being at home. I feel lacking in confidence about how to tie a wrap one securely. I'd love to get one I could bf in rather than be tied to the sofa
watching House box sets
There is a sling meet/library/consultation thingy in my city that is advertised on FB. I'm thinking I might go. Anyone been to this sort of thing before?
Thanks for the warm welcome may not be able to keep up with all the posts but will try my best!
I keep looking at pushchair/travel system/pram things, even when people in the street walk by im like "Oooohhhh" . I used to want an icandy when ds was little but we could never afford it!! Seen a graco travel system which you can buy the car cradle for which looks good and has fairly good review, but willing to keep my options open!!
Oooh slings, hmmmm I got told they were really good and handy so may have to invest in one this time round .
I have tbh I was really bad this evening and could only stomach a macdonalds
no one slap me
The nausea is crap isnt it ladies, and im hoping that we all dont suffer too badly for much longet. I too get worse bowts of it every few days too but it still lingers every day one way or another!! Fx we all have relief soon!
So whens everyones scans?
Ice most of the sling meets have a library too so you can hire a sling for a small charge, worth going while you're pregnant to get an idea of what you would like then hire something once baby arrives if you're not 100% sure what would work best for you. Tying a stretchy wrap is really easy once someone has shown you how, you can fasten it on then leave it tied and just pop baby in and out when you need to. Can also breastfeed in it which is handy if you aren't confident feeding in public as the sling keeps everything covered!!
just love the tractor outfits haha!
we're pretty sure were going to go for the buffalo, but are gonna wait til it's in the shops to compare it to the chameleon, upon more research i like the changes that it has though.
it means we can sell it on after for a good price and also have heard they ae quite robust so will last more than one sprog.
also hello abi and anyone else new to the thread!
What is it about week 12 being a shocker? Thought we were meant to be over the hump of the sickness now!
I'm borrowing a wrap sling from a friend for the early months, and then I'm going back to my trusty Ergobaby carrier. Best baby purchase ever - much more comfy than the baby bjorn (which we also have but not the extra back support one) - up until I got pregnant the 2yr old was still happily going in it. (Is anyone still using a back carrier for their toddler when preg? Are we "allowed"?)
Ice I HATE shopping! I must have bought 2% of the kids stuff in the house. Everything else is hand me down or borrowed. Hopefully with a boy and a girl already we won't need to get much else
oh feck apart from a new car
Abi welcome to the thread!
Edamame and Lumpy glad the scans went well!
Had my booking in this afternoon, all went well but gotta wait and see if I can have a water birth. They won't listen to heart beat till 22 weeks!!! Iv got a Doppler tho so listening in on that :-)
Welcome newbies x
Hey back at all the hello's! !
All exciting and glad that for the people who have already had scans are all well
Sarah wow is it really that late on for to hear the heartbeat. I so thought it was earlier im sure my one with ds was earlier, although that is having to remember a few years back now!! How much is a doppler then? What week can you start using it by?
sorry being nosey
Yeh it's really late. With ds they started listening at 12 weeks. But it will be different everywhere. Someone ( sorry can't remember who) had a listen at their bookin in appt.
I got mine for £20 of eBay. It depends on the Doppler it's self but the one iv got can be used from 8 weeks.
Yeah I was gonna say im sure mine was about 12weeks with ds, but thats over 4years ago now, my friend whi is due in the next few days had hers quite late too, gonna check my schedule in my notes!! Really tempted to get a doppler if it is gonna be a lot later this time round
goes to check notes whilst uploading ebay
Any recommendations for dopplers peeps?
With my DS (20 months) they listened for hb from 16 week appnt.
In terms of slings/carriers etc, I have my eye on a Boba 3G. Had a wee try of a friends and so much comfier than my Babybjorn and feels much closer somehow. As it's soft structured, you can just keep it tied around the waist in the house and pop baby in and out as needed. Waiting until after 20 week scan before I make any purchases like that though.
Morning everyone - and welcome all newbies!! I just cannot keep up with you lot! Couple busy days behind me, couple equally busy ahead. So much is going on on the thread, I feel like I will never be able to catch up properly...! Congratulations to all the recent scanees and my thoughts are with all of you who are gearing up for more headache and stress, all fingers crossed for you. To all of you still suffering of morning sickness - oh dear, what a bloody nuisance. Those who have to deal with annoying partners - shame on them, and stay strong and glowing, ladies! Hugs to all.
At my booking in, the mw said to make sure my 16 week appointment was definitely after the 16 week mark as they aren't allowed to listen to the heartbeat before then! Which is madness!
It's no wonder people get confused when everywhere gives different advice!!
pirates I don't see why you can't carry your toddler as long as it is comfortable for you.
grey I prefer that the buffalo seat is higher than the cam, and it's bigger. Totally out of my price range though unless I can pick up a second hand one right before baby is born.
We don't get to listen to baby's heartbeat till 16 weeks here. I remember being so nervous thinking "what if she doesn't find it?" It's a lovely thing to hear though.
Joining in. Not really sure of edd but at booking appt the said 17th March. Personally thinking 25th more likely. Third baba.... bricking it about scan which is 5th Sept, the day before I go back to work after ds2 . He is 14 months but I took a few extra weeks unpaid to avoid going back before Summer hols (working in schools). Dreading reaction at school. Very obvious bump already, my friend said she noticed three weeks ago!
Ps can I join a fb group, am on that way more than here.
Working9 I have been working just a month and will be telling them next week. eek, not looking forward to the reaction.
I would also like a Doppler recommendation please. All this waiting till scans is driving me mad
I have this doppler from last pregnancy, its ok. I don't think any of the home ones are half as good as the ones the midwives use but managed to find baby's heartbeat a couple of times so far this pregnancy so it can't be too bad!
Morning all. Anyone else feel like this is all flying by?
With my last pregnancy, they wouldn't listen for a heartbeat before 16wks because they didn't want us to worry if they couldn't find one. That's when it becomes easier apparently.
I love my wrap! Leaves hands free for other children/dogs, keeps baby close and warm, and stops everyone else grabbing them for a hold! Took a couple of tries to get used to tying it but then it's second nature. Pirates Ergos all the way! I used mine from a few months old up until I was several months pg with DC3. I think it's fine as long as it's comfortable.
Happy long weekend all - seems like we're all busy so wishing you all lots of energy and not much sleepiness!
I had one mw who didn't listen to the heartbeat at all. She said it told them nothing and shouldn't be used for reassurance as you can listen to it and 2 minutes later it could stop. She focused more on foetal movement.
Told my boys this morning. Mixed reaction. Ds1 went all silly but then said the baby can have his old dummies because he's a big boy and he'll help me look after it, ds2 was more bothered about his shreddies. They would both like a sister tho. No pressure there then!!!
Pirates yay, not just me that hates shopping! I don't feel like a weirdo We're actually going into town this morning because we have to have DS fitted for his first shoes (aww) but I've planned it like a military operation - this shop, that shop, home. In and out, no messing.
Thanks for all the sling chat folks. Rock, I think I will pop along to a sling meet and get them to demo them and help me tie it on. Maybe when I'm showing a bit more.
Welcome newbies. Workingforawhile and sosurprised I've been back at work after mat leave now for 3 weeks, same boat as you. I told my bosses just before I came back (it felt more honest) but haven't told colleagues yet. Will have too soon though, I'm starting to find my clothes are getting tight and I can't suck in the bump anymore.
Morning ladies (and welcome newcomers)
Update for you on the 'DP being a twat' situation...
Blazing row again last night. In which he clearly expressed that I'm the pregnant one, not him, so why should his life be affected before the birth etc. Apparently he should be allowed to do exactly as he pleases to let off steam. Also, if the rest of his life was going to be like that, he may as well leave etc... He threatened to leave AFTER I told him that the stress he's causing is making me ill.
So I told him to leave. That I'm not marrying a man who can't make sacrifices for his child. (He keeps smoking in the house etc...) And that I certainly won't be with a man who doesn't care that he's treating me so badly it's making me ill.
Well, something must have struck home. Complete attitude transplant. He apologised and consoled for about an hour. Then took me out. You know a man is aware of how badly he's been fucking up when he takes you back to the spot he proposed to 'make out' then takes you for a swanky meal while your eyes are nearly swollen shut from crying.
So, I have a bona fide promise that he's realised he needs to put my health first and that the toddler tantrums will stop when he doesn't get his own way. Considering it was getting to be an enormous row every other day, that can only be a good thing.
Watch this space, lets see if he's capable of packing in the selfishness.
Thanks to everyone for the support you've given me through all this. xx
I have a vcomin Doppler, which is the same as some midwives use. I was lucky tbh as the one iv got brand new is about £150 but got it for £20 second hand but was never used. I think the best thing to do is read up on all the different types there are as its personal preference and see where the deals are on the one you like.
12+5 and still retching...
Jolleigh, fingers crossed the change in attitude lasts.
We definitely haven't thought at all about any purchases and won't until nearer the time. My mum's always been a bit superstitious about buying things for babies that aren't born yet and I think that's rubbed off on me a bit. Although obviously I realise that you need certain bits of kit before it arrives.
One of the first decisions once we've had the next scan will be whether the cat has to move out of his bedroom! He is currently very much the centre of attention so he is going to get quite a shock...
<<reads back through thread>>
I am in Leeds so Manchester doable!!!
working I'm in Wakefield
Joll Has he hit his head?? Glad to hear it and I hope it lasts for you.
Joll sometimes they need this kind of short sharp shock. DH used to be like this in the early days of our relationship but a couple of make or break moments early on sorted him out. He's a diamond now. Hope you're not too puffy-eyed this morning!
I've been in bed all morning, retching and dozing. DH downstairs with the kids, they are all watching telly. If only it wasn't raining, I could have sent them all to the park! Feeling so rough.
Think I'm also panicking about the scan on wednes now, and likelihood of Down's etc. The stress probably isn't helping me feel human, I just want wednes over and done with now! I wasn't at all worried and it hit me this weekend!
12 weeks today
Jolls, great news about the epiphany. Don't feel you can't talk to us if he reverts back to being a moron x
F&T, you asked for opinions about your MIL's desire to have a scan picture: I think it's mean to refuse and I don't understand why you would be precious about it.
I stayed at a friend's house last night who I haven't met in years. I immediately regretted it upon arrival. The walls and beautiful furnishings were thick with the stench of cannabis and, although she smoked it out in the garden I felt ill with it. She is also in the throes of a new relationship and she and her beau couldn't wait to get to bed last night and were at it (albeit it quietly) this morning. Ugh. Made me almost miss th'usband
Pram - uncomfortable much?? Not sure what I would have done in that situation.
I'm flat out today. Between the exhaustion and nausea I'm definitely staying in bed. The DP is actually in the middle of packing downstairs up for the move (shock horror!) without my help.
Pirates - hopefully that's the case here. Wish it didn't have to come to quite so close a shave before he got the message. I genuinly meant it when I told him to leave.
comms - I very nearly hit his head for him
Just looking into the screening tests now...scary stuff. Nothing like lots of medical jargon to make a girl suddenly nervous.
Jolleigh, glad your DP has finally woken up and seen what a twat he's been. I hope it lasts and he doesn't revert back to the toddler tantrums.
Pram, sounds very uncomfortable.
I'm currently lying in bed being very lazy. Might get the laptop out and watch episodes of One Born.
The boys are with their dad till this evening and DP has gone to work so it's just me for most of the day. I should do some housework but I know I won't
Pirates Sorry you're feeling rubbish. Wednesday is so close now, you've only got to hang in there for a few more days x
Pram Sounds awkward. Are you staying there any longer?
Just catching up! Sorry to hear about all the man-trouble people are having
It's been a hellish week here, as my Downs risk came back high, so we've come back from holiday for a CVS, and I'm now having a couple of days being waited on hand and foot, which is nice! We should get the initial results back on Wednesday, then it's another couple of weeks for the full results to come back.
I'd be up for a Bristol/Bath meet up
jolleigh, I'm pleased that your man seems to have woken up to his behaviour. As pram said, do feel free to vent on here, if he presses that reset button again.
pram, how horrible! I hope you get your house back to yourself soon.
Comms, yes, I am back home now. After hearing their not-entirely-discreet shagging I told her the stink of her house was knocking me sick. I said it nicely and she was perfectly
shamed understanding. She is a lovely girl and, notwithstanding the stench of weed and lurve, it was nice to get away for a night.
jolleigh I'm so glad to hear your partner has done a 180 and I hope it lasts.
Feel so sick and tired today. There's loads I should be doing but I just cannot be arsed. We are watching walking with dinosaurs. Ds is crying because I made spaghetti hoops on toast and he didn't want that. It's stone cold now and I'm getting fed up of his noise.
My husband is driving me spare. I had ms with ds1 until 22 weeks and same with ds2. This time I have no actual vomiting but just the constant swell and loads of dizziness. I am finding it worse to be honest not to even have the relief of being sick. It just seems to rise and spend ages at that awful bit where you are just at the point of fetching but then I just can't even make myself sick.
If he says once more 'there must be something they can give you'. No, love, this is normal and people with severe hyperemesis can have nothing. I am a bit about it as he was never like this with the other two but I am struggling much more in a way that impacts on him as when he's here I really need him to mind the boys. Basically he just wants me more functional for him and never gave a monkeys the other times when I was feeling pants and managing it better.
Ah Pram don't be harsh on FandT, in pregnancy everyone has moments of being precious about really stupid crap. I'll also wager that where MILs are concerned it's always more about the relationship dynamics than the surface details. A very normal friend of mine went ballistic about her MIL buying a teddy for her son, she spoke about it like this toy was laced with heroin at the very least. Hormones and relationships with MILs are a toxic mix.
Haven't had a chance to catch up yet but just wanted to say thank you to Edamame - I have booked in for the cheapo Harmony test at the FMC. First test on Friday - eeek! Nervous but excited. I never would have been able to afford it if Edam hadn't said about the offer - so thank you, thank you!
How cheap is "cheapo"?
I evidently don't do enough baby research yet. But I don't have my booking in appointment until Wednesday so I'll let myself off.
What's a harmony scan?!?!
Working, thank you for reining in my judgyness..I needed that. I guess I don't understand the MIL dynamics as I don't have one (OH's mum ran away when he was three), plus my IVF baby has been the centre of attention since conception and I'm bloody loving the pride and excitement coming from my family members. They could blow up my scan photo to the size of a house and stick it on Blackpool tower and I would be okay with it
Lyra, 'cheapo' is £180 compared to the usual £300-plus cost of the Harmony test.
Here's some info on it, Jolls
Yes, £180 instead of the £400-£900 that other places quote. But the £180 also includes a viability scan and a nuchal scan as well as the Harmony blood tests - whereas usually its £180 just for the nuchal scan. So I think its a pretty good price. And you get free hot chocolate and about a million free pictures of the baby which sweetens the pill somewhat
2 birthday cakes done and finished. I'm exhausted today. Dh has just got home from work so he's "on duty" now till I get up. A nice long afternoon nap is just what's needed. Night night!!
Oh good Pram, I was worried I might offend. But the first time of baby threads is no judging on baby threads. I am still in a group of 21 I met online when ds1 was a tiny bean back in Feb 09. We are all chalk and cheese and we have everything from mammies who feed their kids chicken dippers and wedges every day to those whose children have never touched a sweet, babies with pierced ears and babies whose parents won't vaccinate, babies who have no television in their houses and those who have fully fledged superhero addictions, wealthy mamas, mamas on council estates, religious mamas, anarchist mamas. You name it we've had some variety of the great tapestry of new mothering practices... but we see each other a few times a year and are still massively daily active on fb because we've learned not to judge. Not that it was always so. We started off much more judgey and birth, breastfeeding and weaning choices definitely engendered a few rolled eyes in all directions. But as time has gone on and there have been more serious challenges of depression, cancer, bereavement, coming to terms with special needs, serious marital issues, unemployment, infertility, ill parents etc you realise all any of us really need is people who will cheer for you even if they don't really get why you do what you do. I love my November 09 mamas, would be lost without them. And they've relaxed my judgy pants hoiking beyond all measure ;)
First rule . This auto correct is seriously irritating.
MILs are a minefield, even the nice ones!
I actually thought I wasn't judging simply because F&T asked us for our opinions. Now I can see I sounded a little harsh.
Working, sounds like a great group of women. Hopefully we'll all stay in touch on this thread. There are some amazing women here too
Thanks pram and rosy. £180 is a good deal but I have so little spare money right now that it's still pricy. I'll find the money for it somehow if I get a high DS risk from the scan and blood test. My NT measurement was low so I'm hopeful all will be ok. If its not, I really want to avoid amnio and cvs (think its too late for cvs anyway).
I've never had a MiL. XP's mother died long before I met him. DP's mother lives in Turkey so I've never met her. Hopefully I will soon though. I'm sure she's a lovely woman from what DP says about her. He adores his mum.
Just back from a week in Cornwall and can't believe how far things have moved on here! Sorry to hear about some of the issues you guys are dealing with.
Also just back from my booking in appt which seemed to take ages and because it was on a sat I have to go back next week to do bloods which doesn't make any sense, why schedule an appointment if you can't do everything? But the midwife was lovely, just looking forward to my scan on the 5th. Also got my edd of 17th march which is exciting as didn't really know where I was.
Symptoms seem to be better just tired, hopefully a quiet long weekend will help! Anyone have nice plans?
Oh and on mil, I have a really lovely one but I know I'm lucky with that... Fil on the other hand drives me insane!
Jolls glad your man did a u turn. FX he keeps it up and doesn't do another!
Pirates hope you feel better after your afternoon off! Mmm bed.
working sounds spot on. It's so good for you, to interact with folks from different backgrounds, classes, etc. not only because it makes you see different perspectives and reins in the judginess, but also because people will probably, between them, have experienced virtually everything. So can give great advice.
I've just returned from the middle of Brum with shoes for DS. Foolishly ate a custard slice in the car on the way back and now feel sick. But I think that's my own silly fault for being greedy, not ms
Oh and Baldrick, so sorry about your test results. Make the most of being waited on, eh? Silver linings! And best of luck for good results in a couple of weeks.
Just got very confused...I have a dog called Baldrick. Took me a while to realise we have a lady here with that in her user name
Best of luck with the results Baldrick...just saw your post. It must be stressful.
Baldrick hope you get good news
I am so exhausted today. Slept for 4 hrs in the afternoon.
Working I asked for opinions, I can't expect everyone just to agree! I wouldn't expect anything less that a straight down the line answer from Pram, which I respect, harsh or not.
I am an introvert and don't really like attention, my MIL is the opposite and is going to want to tell/ show everyone under the sun and I'm not ready to deal with that yet. I know she will keep to my wishes but I just feel scan photos are very personal.
Slings, love slings, I already have a stornch wrap, a babyhawk mei tai, mya wrap ring sling and a patapum toddler ssc (like ergo), I am going to get a stretchy (like moby) too, they are so snuggly for newborns. If you are going from a bjorn I woild suggest a soft structured carrier like ergo or try a mei tai. Highly recommend your local sling library so you can try before you buy/get advice/demos. I babywear until about age two then they learn to walk for themselves!
Baldrick hope you get positive results soon.
Feeling rubbish today - seem to only have enough energy to see me through to lunch and hoped I'd be past this by now. Sorry - having a full on grumpy day.
Sorry to hear your going through that Baldrick, fingers crossed for a positive result.
So glad you could get an appointment Rosy. I feel pretty lucky to have just squeezed in to their week 10 offer, someone said on another thread it was ending next week.
I'm working abroad for the next couple of weeks so won't be on here too much - gonna miss this supportive vibe a lot! Wishing you all a nausea-free fortnight, happy, healthy relationships and above all positive results and baby bliss. Ciao for now.
Forgot to mention in case anyone is interested - during my scan at the Fetal Medicine Centre, we asked if they could tell the sex yet and they said no (obviously) but we can order a sex chromosome test with the Harmony Test for an extra £10 - it's not 100% guaranteed to get an answer though. Also that they could do the test and keep the result secret until we specifically asked for it. Got the impression they wouldn't have mentioned it if we hadn't brought it up though I might be wrong...
Coolhand, sorry you're feeling biz. Are you bilious still?
You going abroad on business or for pleasure, Edam? Safe travelling, anyway.
I am lonely and bored but very happy to have a baby in my tum-tum
edamame that must be the fetal sexing thing I was talking about! Science is mental !
F&T, you don't come across as an introvert; you sound confident and forthright. You can't always tell someone's personality on t'internet, I guess. If the thought of your MIL flashing your bits around makes you wince then take a stand. Surely she knows you're not comfortable in the limelight? How many children do you have and how did you tackle this previously? I hope she doesn't do your head in.
Just has XP here for talks, which was pretty pointless. He's not willing to withdraw his application for full residency unless I let him buy me out of my house, which he part-owns. And he doesn't see that this is blackmail. Sigh.
Oh FandT we don't have a local sling library. Very jeal of those who do!
I was going to go for the Boba 3G soft structured as I'm a bit nervous about the whole tying the sling thing (I am rubbish with anything that needs to be tied/wound etc). Watched a video on YouTube and it frightened me! The 3G is similar to Ergo but my friend liked it better than her previous ergo - think she found it more comfy but don't ask me why! It's suitable for newborns with no insert. You're tempting me to give a sling a try as well - which would you recommend for a novice like me? I'm also hoping if I baby wear I might avoid the double buggy!
Thanks Pram - yes bilious, tired, crappy and ready to start blooming now.
Lyra that is a nightmare. I presume you want to stay in the house and so it'll be the residency battle. That is the last thing you need now - what a dick.
A colleague from work texted me today to say congrats - she said she had noticed my bump yesterday and asked someone else who confirmed it. Guess I'm officially showing then.
Very jealous of those who are showing. I just look fatter than normal... I've gone a very weird shape!
Bought some maternity jeans in New Look today for £9 today in the sale! Despite lack of bump I can't fit into normal jeans anymore... They are super comfy!!
Lyra . Have you had mediation etc? Can his trying to blackmail you be brought up against him?
Lyra - horrendous behaviour from him. It beggars belief just how often people forget the value of common decency.
Th'usband just told me he is moving into a B&B next week and 'will be out of my hair' this weekend too. Why do I suddenly feel scared and lonely? Will I feel better when he's gone? Why isn't he fighting for me? I'm such a dick to be allowing these feelings
Pram, you ain't a dick. You're a pregnant lady who's doing her damned best to do right by her baby, but who can't be strong every minute of the day.
It's probably worse whilst your in this house. When you get a fresh start in a place you've never shared with him it'll be better, I'm sure. Be nice to yourself this evening. And cry if you want.
Sorry, just to add, I'm off to sleep now (cos that's the way I roll on a Saturday night). Not ignoring anyone, just sleeping
Not a dick Prammy. You're human. I think it's the fear of the unknown that is so hard. But you absolutely will be ok c
Pram- do you have a friend you can stay with tonight? preferably not the sameone as last night! If he's not going to put some effort in he's definitely not worth it. That said, having a few days apart could do you both some good anyway. Gives you some breathing space and gives him a chance to realise what he's doing? If after that he still doesn't put some effort in, you're probably best rid.
As always, here if you need a chat. You did the same for me.
Flip the situation...if I'd posted something similar, what would yoy tell me to do?
prammy you're bound to feel those things, its natural completely! and i am 100% with ice on this. you are doing what you think is right for you and the puppy and thats what matters! although i will say, men sometimes aren't good at fighting and sort of wallow and just give up, could it be that he just doesnt know how to fight? are you 100%? sorry to bring it up again tell me to shut up and i will!
lyra sorry to hear about the ex - is there any written proof of the blackmail, i would endeavour to get some by hook or by crook tbh, just to have it in your arsenal.
Thanks, girls, so much. I'll admit that, if he were to tell me he wants us to be a family and will go to counselling and wants me to run the finances and will never do this again blah, blah, I would give him another chance. I think. But he thinks I'm unbreakable and that I will not bend no matter what he now brings to the table. Nevertheless I do not feel it is my place to approach him and tell him what he needs to do in order to redeem himself. I must let him go. He has betrayed me for a year. He did not stop once to consider we were going through IVF and that our future would be compromised with his gambling.
I will let him go. This is not my fault. Pity for him now is inappropriate and misguided. I will let him go..
Lyra, I am thinking of you and am sorry to have no advice, legal or otherwise. Mediation sounds good but I can't see the self-absorbed bastard agreeing. I'm giving you a squeeze x
Pram Just echoing what others have said really but it's completely natural and completely allowed to feel like you are. Pregnant or not, it's a major life change.
Lyra Your situation with your ex sounds like a nightmare, sorry you're having to go through that.
Today I have eaten a normal sized portion of a proper meal that didn't involve any toast. Feeling major sense of achievement.
Sorry to hear there is a few of you going through really tough times with results and ex's and meany partners, thats tough going when you're not pg, let alone when you are!! I hoping that you all get to a good place soon and can continue on with your pg feeling more comfortable in more ways than one. Big hugs.
Been sick again today, and have been feeling rough as poop, and seriously contemplating starting to take the anti sicknesses prescription I have from docs, but also really dont want to. Any tips or advice? 9weeks today and fed up with feeling like poop!!
Yayh comms, glad you've had a better food experience! ! How many weeks are you? :0)
Thanks again for your support.
I just realised I probably shouldn't say any more on the subject on here. He's been known to stalk my internet posts (even printed out my private messages on another forum after I stupidly left myself logged in) and he knows I've used MN a lot in the past. Have to play it safe from now on.
Now to catch up on the thread...
Pram, I agree with what greymoose said about him giving up because he doesn't know how to fight. He sounds like a pretty weak person but correct me if I'm wrong. But I agree with you that you shouldn't have to tell him what to do to make this better. You're not his mother. He needs to man up before he lets everything slide away.
Lyra, I feel you are right. Thank you.
Lyra sorry XP is being such a bellend. It must be hard for your DP too - how does he handle it? He sounds lovely (DP obvs not XP!).
Abi what meds did you get from docs? I had cyclizine last time and took it when I couldn't keep anything down as I was so worried about keeping my folic acid down. I probably took it for 2 months, from about 9 weeks. Didn't do any harm at all. It didn't stop me feeling a bit sick but it did stop me chundering all the time!
comms well done on the whole meal! Maybe you're through the worst!
I had a really rough day yesterday - went bathroom shopping for our forthcoming extension but had to run out of the shop heaving.... Feeling a bit better this morning, just had frosties in bed whilst DH feeds LOs downstairs. Am seriously making the most of him being here this weekend - he's gonna want to go back to work for a rest poor sod.
Awful nights sleep as our smoke alarm started beeping at 2am. Why do their batteries always run out at night?!
Hi Becca, I'm... er... 'showing', look about 5 months. Unfortunately I reckon it's all constipation
Aw, thanks Pram, it's all work but that's gonna make the next 2 weeks fly by.
Have a good couple of weeks all
At the beginning of the day I look normal, by bedtime I look 6 months pregnant! I'm kind of torn between wanting to look pregnant, not just fat, and not wanting anyone to guess until we are ready to tell.
It's pouring with rain today and the house is an absolute tip so it looks like I will be doing some hardcore housework. If I can get off the sofa.
Am not going to make it out of bed this morning - the frosties have just made a dramatic reappearance . If I carry on like this beyond tomorrow then I'm getting me some cyclizine. DS (4) is starting to worry about me poor lamb.
And we're out of pop tarts!!!!!!!!!!
Mummy24 I an the same, look big by end of day. Alas as Edamame says I think that's a factor.
Pirates, DP has to cope with it all too and it's not easy. XP told him a lie about us sleeping together (as if! I find the man utterly disgusting!) but luckily DP knows what he's like and didn't believe him. It does put a strain on our relationship though. I'm sure XP would be delighted to hear that
Sorry you're still so sick. I haven't thrown up for week's now but I do get occasional queasiness.
In other news, my lovely friend who had twins a couple if years ago is lending me her Doppler so I can listen in any time I want. Cue panic when I can't find the heartbeat...
She's dropping it off today
Week's? Stupid iPhone autocorrect is forever ruining my grammar.
Abi I'm 10 + 5. Feel awful again this morning but at least I got a break!
Pirate You're really having a rubbish time aren't you poor thing. Hope it gets better for you soon.
Housework for me too today when I make it out of bed!
Pram I'm going against the grain here, but personally I think I'd tell him what he needs to do to fix this (if its possible to fix it). 5 years down the line if things worked out you wouldn't remember the fact that you had to say "make the effort with me, and go for counselling" you would just be glad he got the help he needed. However if you're only feeling like you are because he's moving out and it feels final and scary, not because you actually want to work things out, then ignore my suggestion!! I left a very unhappy relationship a few years ago, best thing I ever did, but as I moved my stuff back to my parent's house, I would happily have taken him back just so things stayed 'normal' despite normal being shit!
Well, pregnancy announced on Facebook, have now gained a grand total of 1lb and am showing properly! All plodding along as it should be. Counting down the days til my gender scan!!!
Rockchick, beautifully put, as usual. I'm struggling to know a) what I want, b) what are true feelings and what are just sadness and c) whether I can be arsed with the work involved. Thank you for your honesty.
I can't believe you've only gained a pound you, you rotter!
Coolhand, I'm sorry you're so pukey; get thee to the quacks and get some drugs (and get thee to the shop for some Pop-tarts!)
One of you suggested I go and stay at a friend's (you, *Lyra?) to beat my loneliness, but I just can't face it after my stay at Biba's. I really missed my own bed (I don't mind sleeping under an eight year-old's Transformer duvet but I draw the line at a slobbering Staffie taking up all the bed).
Oh no pirate I was about to say lucky you for being able to eat a more sugary cereal with milk, but ive just read further down the post :0 ( sorry to hear its made another appearance in a bad way. I currently am struggling most mornings with anything dairy or sugary so this morning im testing out wheatabix that ive soaked down with hot water and no sugar, its horrid, wheatabix I normally at least have with sugar but I think it will come back up again. The pills they prescribed are called 'buccastem 3mg' I got them because my ds starts primary in just over a week and I was worried about him not getting there ok if I had been being sick or feeling sick, im kinda fed up of sitting round trying not to hurl!! I just wanna be able to get on with some stuff! Im wondering if I should just take them and stop feeling guilty about these meds whilst pg? Ohhh I dont know?!
Mummy24 and edamame, im 'showing abit' here too! Only 9+1 and maternity trousers are far more comfortable for me, that or no trousers at all
whilst in comfort of own home I get more nausea when waitbands dig in!!
Hoping everyone is having a good weekend/has a nice rest of the weekend :0)
abi have you looked on the hyperemesis support thread on the Pregnancy board, I bet you'll find some people on there taking that drug. I am with you on the school run worry - my DS starts reception in a couple of weeks too We're going to look like hungover mums!!!
Ahhhh thanks for that, shall have a peek! You're not wrong there on hungover mums, if only it was actually alcohol lol! ! I hope that you manage to reduce how horrid you're feeling! Big hugz.
Abi are they the ones you pop on the inside of your mouth to dissolve? They're really good. The docs wouldn't prescribe them if they were dangerous x
I'm also showing. 10 weeks today. I think I just look fat, but DH says its definitely a bump. I. Ant stand anything ought on my tummy either. Have found my skin has got really sensitive too
Anyone else having to force the milk down? I keep trying to take at least one glass a day, not least because of all the iodine deficiency stuff that was in the news this year but it only seems to aggravate the nausea.
Abi, I had buccastem. I thought they were working for a couple of days but after that they didn't do anything. They've prescribed me cyclizine now but the taste is unbelievably strong - as soon as I put it in my mouth I spat it out again!
I'm actually really enjoying warm milk. It's very soothing in the tum. Never used to drink milk.
I've really gone off milk at the moment. But I can manage it in a hot chocolate when I'm not feeling as nauseous. Can't get enough of smoothies though, so going for dairy that way
I'm fostering a serious Nesquik addiction Haven't had Nesquik since I was about nine. The calcium has got to be good though, right?
I have to ask, what is it with pregnant ladies and pop tarts? Just gone on a pop tart run
RockChick - 1lb!?!? You're kidding me?? I put on 1lb while sticking strictly to a vigorous gym and weight watchers routine before realising I was pregnant...that's what made me decide to do a test! God knows how much I've put on now
rosyryan - as far as cravings go, nesquik has got to be better than most. It has added vitamins and stuff...I'd just look up which vitamins we shouldn't be having too much of (I'm sure there's 1?) and check if nesquik has loads of it. If not...nesquik away!
I can't stand pop tarts. Bleurgh!
Lyra - neither can I. But apparently my developing little alien loves them
Jol DH thinks it means we are having a girl as I'd put on over a stone at this point with DS... I think it means I've not used pregnancy as an excuse to eat EVERYTHING like I did last time, also don't seem to be able to eat a full meal at the moment, whereas with DS I was constantly hungry.
We have no toaster, so can't have pop tarts
I think pop tarts are horrible, the dh loves them n I can't be down stairs when he has them as the smell makes me feel sick. Iv noticed that the main thing that I can keep down now is cup a soup. Leases it's some form of food lol.
As for weight gain iv acctually lost 1 stone since gettin bfp. Think it might have somethin to do with the awful ms couple weeks ago
I get ravenous, but can't eat much at all before I feel full and sick. This happens to me in pregnancy usually so I expect I will have lost a few pounds. My clothes still fit so I can't have put on much.
I love a frijj chocolate fudge brownie milkshake. Yummy!
Some things I will never be able to stand again due to this nausea. My washing up liquid is one of them.
Well I am constantly hungry (which I was last time as well) but haven't been able to shake the feeling that I am having a girl for some reason.
I'm not sure I've ever had a pop tart but they aren't appealing right now. I could quite happily eat chips though but going to have some bread while I wait for my roast, yum.
I'm dreading seeing how much I put on. I'm already quite a chunkster...was in the process of losing the chunk when we found out I'd fallen pregnant so quickly. Really hadn't expected it after 6 years of the implant. Thought we'd be waiting a good 6 months and I could have shifted a couple of stone in anticipation. As it turned out, I'd managed about half a stone before the scales started to creep the other way!
Silver lining...the more tired I am, the less hungry I am. Bring on the sleepless nights!
Sorry, Coolhand, it was Pirates who had run out of Pop Tarts and whom I was urging to get to the shops.
I've just been looking at the September 13 thread and they're all huge and uncomfortable and watching for signs of labour. That'll be us in a few months
Getting impatient waiting for friend to drop doppler round. I said I'd pick it up but she insisted on bringing it round so I feel guilty for being impatient.
Pram, are your thoughts any clearer today? It's hard to know how you feel sometimes, and what to do about those feelings.
I know when XP moved out I was gutted -it was what I wanted and it took two years to get him out but it was the end of our family as we'd known it and I grieved for the happy future we should have had but had failed to make. Does that make sense?
MummyPig that's hilarious about the washing up liquid because I have been thinking that exact same thing about mine! Randomness.
There is a May 2014 thread now!! We are creeping up the charts
Rock We don't have a toaster either. I really want a pop tart!
Sarah I've lost a stone too. I've not even been sick that much but the nausea has made eating really hard. I think it makes the fact that I'm pregnant really obvious though as I've lost weight everywhere apart from my stomach. Have had a few people comment while staring at my tummy knowingly.
Nomaybe thats the ones, you plop them in between your lip and your gum and they dissolve over a course of 1-2hours. I think im going to have to try them as there is not mych I can keep eating without feeling awful dreadful. Worth a try and if tgey dont work then ive lost nothing!!
Cant remember who said about milk as gone past that page, but I cant stomach milk at all :0 ( so instead im gonna have to wait till hopefully after the nausea has gone. I was the same with ds and in the second trimester I could stomache it and it actually helped with hearburn. So lets hope all our sickly moments will fade into non existence! !
Lyra, yeah that makes total sense (you always do). He has gone out walking and I'm trying to work out whether I'll miss him or not when he leaves. he works twelve-hour days and is away all day Saturdays 'til 8pm visiting his son so I spend a heck of a lot of time alone. Has he enriched my life thus far? Well, he's funny and clever and adores me but has been deceiving me for over a year. The secrets and selfishness makes all the good stuff pale into insignificance really. I'm damned if I'm going to become one of those women who stays with a rotter simply because she's scared of a future alone. But is he a rotter? Or is he a good man who has done some bad stuff (that was a rhetorical question; I don't expect anyone to know the answer to that)?
Pram im sorry I dont know whats happened to you and your chap? I couldn't read that far back without my eyes going gaga on this phone!! Sounds like your having a lot of a bad time at the mo. Its such a tough thing to way up when thinking about relationships so I really hope you find the path that is just right for you. Big hugz
rosy which one is it? Mine is tesco blackberry and fresia one. Urgh, makes me shudder whenever I have to wash up.
Pram how long have you been together? You know that with little Pramette in your tum you're never going to be alone again, don't you x
If I were you, Pram, I would give him one more chance if there's any chance of you salvaging your future. But he'd have to seriously up his game and I'd be watching him like a hawk for some time till he'd earned my trust again. At least that way you'd know you'd tried everything rather than having regrets about what might have been. Just my opinion.
Being on the brink of losing everything will have been a major wake-up call for him. I doubt he'd risk it all again.
Thanks, Abi & Lyra. Lyra, how do I let him know I will give him another chance without actually forcing the issue? He skulks around the house and has made his plans to leave. I really don't want to have to go: 'Erm..before you leave..you do know I'm willing to give you another chance if you do x,y and z, don't you?'
Pirate, we've been together two years, since leaving rehab.
When is he due to leave? As an outsider I can see why, after going through the bleakness of addiction yourself, you'd be doubly worried about the risk of it in your orbit. Hwvr if there are things he could do to salvage the relationship, and you think you could move forward together with him doing those things, then you maybe should just tell him. Men are IDIOTS - my DH will often say "well you only had to ask," if I'm in a strop about him not doing something. Things often don't occur to them and he may well be thinking "she wants me out, she says she'll never trust me again, so there's nothing I can do apart from skulk around, maybe she'll develop a thing for skulking, you never know...". Honestly, IDIOTS.
I used to do silent sulking in our fights, the old "I'm fine" but said in a voice that you think conveys you are not fine. However, DH hears this and thinks "she says she's fine, so she's fine." I now set out very specifically what is required of him!
You can start a conversation by asking how he'll change, because whether he is with you or not, he'll have to. That might ease you into a "if you did XYZ then we might have a shot at a future as a family". But it's your way or the highway. Here have a and a think about it.
Good news, my lovely friend who is a nurse and recent preggo vommer is driving over with her left-over cyclizine! I've had it before so know I'm ok with it. It will tide me over until tues
How do you think another letter would go down? I'm not much of a letter writer, so i might be talking rubbish as i wouldn't. But it was how you felt able to express your feelings before? And would mean you could have a couple of tries to get the tone right without saying stuff in the heat of the moment.
Pirates that makes sense - I really have to spell things out to my DH as well. There is no reading between the lines and he takes me quite literally as well. I just spell out my needs now. Also find men have a bit less initiative (or maybe that's just my DH).
Hope the meds help Pirates.
I had a big fat snooze this afternoon - when will this tiredness ever lift?
Pram, you could go in with something like "So that's it? You're going to move out without fighting for our relationship."
Then if he says "what can I do, you want me to leave so I'm leaving."
That would then give you an opportunity to spell out what he could do to make it right.
Men are like children in that they tend to take us literally at our word. Subtlety is wasted.
pram could you not go right back to the start?? Let him move out but tell him there's still a chance? You want to be together and be a family with this very precious baby but he has to earn your trust again. Start slowly and build on it??
I'm just about to put my boys to bed. We've had a fab party and the house now looks like toys r us. I'm exhausted. Once they're in bed I'm going to treat myself to a fridge fresh necterine. My craving. As for milk, I'm not a fan but a did eat
a whole some Angel delight the other night!!!
Chicken risotto for dinner tonight. The boys have been nagging me to make it for days.
What's everyone else having?
Just felt baby doing gymnastics!
That's so lovely Lyra!! How far along are you now?
We went out for lunch and I had a wild boar and chorizo burger. It was amazing. Though I am feeling pecking again!!
I think I have a strange DH in that he knows me too well. Even if I say I'm fine he knows I'm not. Go figure.
Prammy did you come to a decision? Whatever choice you make will be the right one. If that I'm sure x
Cool I'dlove to not be tired!!
Nomaybe, 13+5. I've been feeling movement for a while but very sporadically. I'm looking forward to feeling regular movements, just to remind me that there really is an actual baby in there
Lyra! I think it will be a long time before I really believe its a baby and not just a balloon in there
I do sometimes actually forget. Then I realise that my fat tummy and tiredness has a cause
Crumbs. Your advice was brilliant, all of you who kindly gave your wise words. I went with your strategy, Lyra, because Pirate's post described him to a tee and I knew he had resigned himself to sackcloth and ashes and moving out. He cried when I told him I was frightened of being a single mum but even more frightened of trusting him again. He said he will go to Gamblers Anonymous or Relate or anywhere I felt was going to benefit both of us. I said we'll do both. I told him to google phone numbers and appointment times and that this week we need to open a joint account.
I told him the counsellor will need to help me let go of the sadness and betrayal I feel and help me to trust again, if that is at all possible. I told him he needs to think about what he expects to gain from the sessions. I told him to expect gamblers anon members to thrash him if he tries to suggest he is not addicted. I told him they won't tolerate denial but he knows that. He kept wanting hugs and to touch me but I'm not ready for that yet. I'm relieved that a decision has been made (and that I can keep Sky telly) but feel strangely deflated. Oh, and I don't fancy him at all...
Sorry Prammy, a totally ill timed grin.
How do you feel about your decision? I'm so pleased he is ready to get help. I think anger will be preventing you from the physical side of things. You're not ready to trust him yet. Which is totally understandable. But you'll get there x
I'm so glad there's been progress, Pram. It's not unexpected that you'll feel a bit numb at first. You're hardly going to leap into his arms and smother him with kisses. You've resolved to try to fix things but this is just the beginning. Nothing has been fixed yet so give yourself time to see if those feelings will return.
Just catching up on the weekend's goings on.
Pram I'm glad you managed to sit down with him and lay your cards on the table. Give it time and see if the old feelings return, Lyra speaks a lot of sense.
Pram Well done you for making a decision. Just give it time now and make sure you stick to your guns x
Well I'm pleased that you had the conversation pram and that there is hope for you two. I really hope it goes well.
I went and saw my friend in hospital tonight, she had we mastectomy on Friday. It went well, they were able to put a spacer in so as long as her body accepts it and her treatment goes well, she will be able to have a reconstruction in a year or so.
When I got home dd was so sad, she thought I was gone forever! It's crazy the impact I have on little people's lives! She hasn't been apart from me in 4 weeks and I guess she was worried I wasn't coming back, it broke my heart to see her so upset. So I lay with her in bed and cuddled her until she felt better.
I've not had any dinner yet. The only thing I want is ice cream but I don't have any. So I'm sulking.
Looks like something finally got through Pram . Hopefully you'll feel better about things once he's proven he'll go ahead with what he now says he will. Keep us posted. The fancying him could follow once he earns your respect back.
Yeugh! I have a very very upset tummy. My only comfort is hot water
Oh Lamb that's no good. Pregnancy related? I hope it passes soon
Sounds like progress, Prambellina.
Just had a bath, and read a 300+ long thread about wedding disasters. Was actually an ace evening! Feeling relaxed now.
Loving that tomorrow is a bank holiday and I don't have to get up for work . Hope you all have a lovely day!
Wow, it's taken me a while to read all this thread! But so pleased that some of the twatty blokes are showing signs of improvement.
I had my scan on thursday and was rather suprised to hear that measurements put me 8 days ahead of my own dates. Previous 2 pregnancies have only had dates a day or two out. Nuchal was hard to measure (I had to jump up and down!) but it was well under the more risky measurement so hopefully bloods will agree. Told our parents who were pleased, got proper bear hugs off in laws which has made me feel good. I thought they might think us a bit nuts but they are just really excited! Waiting for DS risk before going more public and telling kids.
Had a lovely day out atnyork maze today with only a little indegestion to cope with (sorry I amone of those who ddoesn't really suffer symptoms). My bump is starting to pop out in the evenings, but then I am 13 +4 apparently!
Off to pm to join facebook...
Don't think so notmaybe it's just a stomach bug or something. My tummy really hurts and I have to keep running to the loo with a bowl in my hands for the other end I hope it ends soon. (Sorry for the detail lol)
Oh Lamb lovely, that does not sound good. Hope it settles down soon and you manage to keep something in. What shitty luck
Sounds like a lovely day Fruit! Glad all the parents were happy
Posted too early. I love a good bath Ice! I've got a nice bath bomb lines up for tomorrow!
Thank you. Hope it's gone by Wed because its my first scan with my first baby
Fingers crossed it will be long gone by then! What a great day Wednesday will be
Lambchop, you poor thing!
Whoever was talking about crumpets with marmite, I Have just succumbed only with bovril instead - divine!
Feeling dim as I can't work out how to pm on my tablet so I can facebook, can anyone help?
Fruit pastille great news on the scan and fx for your bloods. I'm scanning tomorrow and hAve been trying to keep busy /thoughts away from how it will go. It was a beautiful day here ...Ds kindly had a 3 hour nap so was forced to snooze in the sun Then my well intended MIL invited us for a roast lamb which didn't reach the table till DS bedtime but was bloody amazing nom nom . Just chillaxing before my half day of work tomorrow and going to treat self to a new kindle book (recommendations?) . Prambles great that you've pinned oh down to an action plan. I was the same, reached breaking point and phoned for counselling then and there. Sometimes decisive action is needed .. We only had to wait 5 days for our appointment. FWIW we r only 4 sessions in but v positive and & a safe space to explore and communicate your issues esp those which are so emotive its hard to communicate otherwise . x
p.s. Your name fruit pastille has triggered a huge fruit pastille craving I could actually murder a huge bag of you. Or wine gums or opal fruits. Please can you change your name! Would also love a bath but we don't have one . Power shower not the same ...
... wrong on so many levels. Nausea now kicking in..
apprenticemma I just read a few of Karin Slaughters book sand enjoyed them, but depends what you like. Another fan book was Before I Go to sleep. Not what I expected, but fab!
pram glad you've turned a corner, will be a long process, but worth it I think (whether you stay together or niot), life's too short for living with regret x
Mum wanted to look at prams today, so I humoured her but picked a pram.. Had to escort her from the shop to stop her putting a deposit down! Scan on Wednesday x
Good luck for your scan April fingers crossed its a great day for both of us
April I love Karin Slaughter books too - DH can't read them though, finds them too gory!! Apprentice if you like daft girlie, easy to read books then anything by Sophie Kinsella is fab, detective-wise Mark Billingham is excellent, depends what sort of thing you like? I read far too much, tend to get asda 3 for £10
at least once a month
Prammy I think you have done the right thing - I'm not surprised you're not attracted to him at the moment but better to try and fail, than to not try at all and regret it!
April what pram? Do you like it or just your mum???
Hope you feel better soon Lamb
Thanks for the book tips April and rock chick. I'm fairly new to mumsnet and just discovered a whole section on books. April, room made me weep buckets when I was upduffed last time, fabulous book. That's sweet about your wee mum getting all pram excited too. Dhs dad spent months researching and we finally got the mamma n Pappas sola as got the best ratngs in 2011. It's had a few minor glitches but generally pretty good and our ds still fits it although we use a buggy as the pram v heavy as is ds now.
To the ladies talking books...if Karin Slaughter is your thing, I'd definitely recommend some Martina Cole. I'd start with Dangerous Lady and Maura's Game.
I read a Martina Cole and it was all about child abuse and too sad for me. It's put me off reading any more of hers.
I can't recommend The Hunger Games highly enough for anybody that hadn't read it. I recommended the first book for my book club and they all loved it so much they read the second and third books too.
Also second Before I Go To Sleep. Great read.
Also Gone Girl has been one of those must-read books this year. I really enjoyed it.
Not read one of hers like that Lyra...the 2 I've mentioned have a different feel entirely. They're definitely a bit gruesome though.
I hated gone girl! I only really read non fiction apart from trash and love twilight so my opinion probably shouldn't be taken seriously though!
Mummy - hope everything goes well for your friend!
Pram - glad he's being a bit more proactive!
Just caught up briefly - with the Facebook thing to pm on iPad I think you just click the little arrow by the side of whoever you want to message's post and click message user or similar! Send me your link and ill add you to it now
Hi ladies. Took myself out of the loop for a while so I have lots of catching up to do buy just to let you know scan web great last Thurs and all set for EDD of march 9. Very exciting. Was in a fender bender on Saturday which was really scary but I think all is fine. Can't get anything checked until after the bank hol. Otherwise all good and just hoping energy will continue to pick up. Hope you're all doing well and will be back once I've caught up with all your chatter!
Sorry to go against the grain but I read a Martina Cole and hated it. Hated it more than any book I've ever read. It was 'The Take' or something like that and all about a gangster and his lowlife family, hurting people and stealing stuff. Violent and depraved. So grimy.
But each to their own, eh?
I loved Water for Elephants recently.
Thanks ladies, Lambchop are you Wednesday too?
I've read the Martina Cole books, I like a good crime thriller 😀I second Sophie Kinsella for an easy read; Jodie Picolt is good like that too! My friends have told me to read the I Heart New York series, not read them yet!
Think we are going for the iCandy Apple 2. I quite liked the Silver Cross Wayfayerer and a Babystyle one. We also loved a Stokke one but nearly passed out at the £1050 price tag! The iCandy is on offer at the moment so getting the pram/stroller car sets adapters covers, insect net and hood for £590 which I thought was a good deal x
Ooh I've ordered the new Margaret Atwood book, can't wait for it to arrive although god knows when I'll read it!!
April and Lamb I'm Wednesday for scan too
Had nearly 10 hours sleep last night; feeling a bit grotty but so fat keeping a weetabix down. Fingers crossed. Might even get out of bed today!!
Yes April my scan is on Wednesday too. First baby so feeling excited but nervous. Really hope everything is ok. Is this your first?
Good luck too you too Pirates
Hi Everyone :-) I'm new here. I have been posting on the April thread as I thought I was 7 or 8 weeks but had a scan Friday and I'm actually 12+3 now so EDD 6th March :-)
I'm scared as first baby but really excited too.
Anyhow, just saying hello and hoping to learn about everything 'baby' from you so I'll probably just lurk and read :-)
quick question ...full bladder required for scan, anyone? Nothing to indicate in letter .
Lamb hope you are feeling better today.
Hope everyone has a good bank holiday today. We are going to my grandmas for a "family breakfast" and she said between 11 and 2 so I have no idea what to expect! She's also a notoriously bad cook so I'm a little worried!
Nothing on my letter either apprentice so I'm going to go with a full bladder to be safe!
to pee or not to pee that is the question!
apprentice - depends. Having something in your bladder can give a clearer picture. My appointment letter advised drinking a pint of water one hour before the scan. But...
Is your appointment booking in and scan combined or just scan? If combined, they will prob do all the paperwork first and it's not good to be busting for a wee through all that! If just scan, is it late in the day at a huge busy antenatal clinic - if so they might be running late (2 hours late for my scan for DS!) so same applies.
If you're in doubt, I would turn up with a bottle if water (but not crossing your legs IYSWIM) and see what the wait is like. HTH.
My scan letter says "FULL" bladder in capital letters. Last time I was so full I couldn't enjoy the scan at all and desperately wanted to pee. It didn't help that they were 1.5 hrs late.
This time I will drink some water but no way am I going in with a completely full bladder.
Mines different again, just says not to go to the toilet for an hour before hand nothing about drinking a pint of water like with ds. Ill just take a bottle of water with me in case there is a wait but there shouldn't be much at 9.30am
I obediently drank the pint of water for the 12 week scan and then was told my bladder was too full and to empty most of it. I think it depends how much you normally drink: I usually drink quite a lot so probably didn't need to drink any extra, maybe just not go to the loo for a bit beforehand. It took ages for the baby to be in the right position to do the nuchal measurement: in the end she sent me out while she scanned someone else then got me back in again...
Totally agree that men need things spelled out: subtle hints do not work!
I find the Patricia Cornwell books very interesting, and think the central character is strong, but they are definitely gruesome and not for the squeamish!
I work at a college and start work properly again tomorrow so may be too knackered to post much on here. If so, apologies and fingers crossed things go well for everyone.
Thanks Mummypig I'm feeling better today, still a bit fragile but luckily well enough to go to work today! Lol
Yeah Lambchop, my first too . I have had a couple of scans already (at nine weeks), I was carrying twins, but one stopped developing at 8 weeks, so really nervous that the other one is doing OK. I am hoping so, and if my stomach and boob size
and nipple colour/changes (WTF?!) are anything to go by, everything is OK!
Is it just three of us on Wednesday? Is anyone going for one today? Its not a bank holiday up here today, but I hope everyone who is off enjoys it!!!
On the full bladder front, I had a full bladder for my earlier scan, but it was too full and I was told to empty. At my next, I made sure it wasn't so full, and the image was clear, but then I had to empty it completely for my internal scan with the "dildo cam"
Hope you are OK Lottie
feeling so miserable this morning. sickness worse than eve. up around 4 chucking up bile. really thought at 12+4, id be over it by now. just hope its all worth it when I have scan tomorrow!
lottie I fell over yesterday, well more dragged over, and freaked a little so can't imagine being in a fender bender. How are you feeling?
april my first scan is on Wednesday and this is my first too. I a little worried I'm going to find something wrong but I know that's mainly because of my mmc but trying to remain calm and positive
Hi running it must be quite nice to have fast forwarded a month in the first trimester!
Hope everyone else is ok x
Think I'm the only person today April...not a bank holiday in Tayside. Sorry to hear aboutThanks all for advice 're weeing. And speaking of books shall follow some of these tips...might bring my kindle if we r in for a wait ! Now I'm putting the phone away...must not mn at work!
My scan is at 10.25 next Saturday so hopefully they won't be running too late. But it will take us an hour to get from home to the hospital so I guess I will take a bottle of water en route.
Just want to go back to sleep!
So sorry not everyone has a bank holiday, I seriously needed an extra day away from work. 11 weeks today and having to be 'normal' at work is taking it's toll, I'm exhausted!
This is no. 1 for me and I genuinely have massive respect for those of you that are upduffed while looking after other dc's. Have a heartfelt bloody well done, I'm almost crying at the thought of the extra energy it's going to take to wash my hair this morning. Pathetic individual!
Good luck for your scan today Apprentice!!
Babybear hope you feel better soon.
Feel sick this morning but seem to have found a pattern - if I eat supper before bed, I'm ok in the morning. If I don't have anything then I'm nauseous.
any excuse for a brew and chocolate digestives before bed
Think DH is taking DS out somewhere this afternoon so I can tidy the house - it seems to have drifted from its usual lived-in amount of mess to just a pigsty. Virtually impossible to do a proper job of cleaning and tidying it when DS is around though, as fast as I put things away he creates more chaos!
I've got into a regular pattern of spewing up just before going to bed! It's so predictable it's tedious. Anything I eat after dinner comes back up again at bedtime.
I'm so jealous of people who can eat normally. I would love to go for a pub lunch in the beer garden today. I would love to do bloody anything, it's been about a month since I left the house! (not counting hospital appointments and my attempts at walking which involves dragging myself to the end of the road and back)
Anyone else NOT having the NT test? I didn't really see the point, as I wouldn't do anything with a high risk result other than worry.
Fox I've not had it, and didn't with DS. Whatever odds they gave me, I'd stress that I would be that one in X - if my odds were 1 in a million then someone still has to be that one. I wouldn't want CVS or amneo, because of miscarriage risk. Also to be completely honest, there are so many "worse" disabilities that can't be picked up until baby is born, yet I'd still love them with it, that I can't imagine testing for just one thing. Only my personal opinion, would never judge anyone else for their choices
fox I'm not having it, I had the test last time, but I just feel its unnecessary this time, I don't know, just feel like I don't need it. It can't change anything by having the test anyway.
ikab I washed, dried and straightened my hair this morning and its damn near killed me! My hair is thick and long so it takes forever.
Good luck today Apprentice
Hope things settle soon Fox. Luckily I have never been sick, but the constant nausea is horrible. Mine has started to get worse at bedtime the last few days. So tedious.
I totally get why you wouldn't want the NT test. I think I will gave it, but I also wouldn't have a termination of downs was detected. So why go though the stress?!
Lamb, April, Pirates and Total. I am also wednesday. Its my 1st. I've been told full bladder, its a teaching hospital so I guess they let the beginner's have a go!
Best of luck to everyone with scans this week.
I am having it but would not have cvs or amnio. I will also have a fetal echocardiogram privately as I was on antidepressants falling pregnant.
I have pretty much made the decision I would not terminate for medical reasons, even in the case of something like anencephaly. This is not for moral or religious reasons, just that I suppose I feel that you grieve either way and if there was a small chance I could meet and say goodbye to my baby I would want that. I think it would be different if I were on a different pregnancy but I have my two boys and if fate dealt me this hand I probably wouldn't be having another baby so all I could do for it would be carry it. I appreciate this is an unusual point of view especially as I am not religious but I've lived with very serious fear of something happening in all my pregnancies as I get perinatal OCD which basically means I have a lot of waking dreams about horrible things happening to my baby that are distressing and unwanted. So I've had a lot of therapy and time to think about it and in that very sad situation, I think that I would take the five months to come to terms with our loss and to give myself over to it as it unfolded.
Though I have no judgement at all of what anyone would ever decide in these sad situations and perhaps if it came to it I would feel differently.
Interesting to know. My midwife said that only about 50% of people have it, but it seemed everyone on here was.
working this perinatal OCD sounds bloody awful!! How are you doing with this pregnancy?
NoMaybe I think the constant nausea is worse than actually being sick. At least with being sick there is a bit of relief afterwards.
Good luck today apprentice .
To be honest, I never really thought about the NT, but the midwife said they do it with the scan ad its not invasive etc, so I will probably say OK, however, I have also been told that I may not be able to have the NT as i haven't passed (sorry!) the 2nd baby, and they wont know until on the day if my body has re-absorbed it. I know I probably wouldn't have the CVS or the amnio due to miscarriage risk and like Rock it wouldn't make a difference to me or DH either way, regardless of the test results.
Working my heart goes out to you. It sounds incredibly distressing but thank you for sharing. I really feel that all comments on this thread help someone else in the group either directly or by cementing previously held believes or by understanding that this pregnancy lark is as changeable, individual and varied as you can imagine and then some. No right or wrongs.
I am having the NT, not sure about thoughts about results but dh and I made the decision to test after reading in the mn book that one woman's likelihood was v high and indeed she did have a baby with Downs and she felt that knowing before the birth helped her prepare herself and those around her.
Authors like Kinsella, Cole, Picoult, Cornwell et al are chick-lit whores, in my opinion. Any chick-lit makes me feel ashamed to be a woman. The only female authors I respect right now are Hilary Mantel and Lionel Shriver. I find female authors allow their gender to get in the way of their writing so I stick to the blokes. A woman could never write a book like Shantaram (David Gregory Roberts) or Shogun (James Clavell).
I've sent th'usband on a two-mile trek to the neighbouring village to buy me a bag of traffic light lollies.
Good luck today, Apprentice.
The last book I really enjoyed was Jeanette Winterson Why be happy when you could be normal. Laugh out loud funny, clever, damaged, survivor with crystal clear clarity, its fair to say I love her a little bit. I also really liked The colour of milk by Nell Leyshon.
Yesterday I gave in and bought A cuckoos calling, I need a bit of escapism right now and sorry but really did enjoy Harry Potter
hides in the corner awaiting abuse from the high brows stands proud (sort of!)
ikab i love Harry Potter . I have also recently downloaded The Hobbit to read in preparation for the films..I am a complete Geek though
apprentice if it is not too late, my letter said a moderately full bladder so I drank about half alitre on the way there.
My name I because it is the nearest I had to a craving with dd! I will pretend I didn't hear you re bovril.
Ahhh, books.. I have varied taste. Anyone who enjoyed the Hunger Games I have just finished the very enjoyable Divergent by Veronica Roth, another young adult dystopian future novel with a female main character. The second book is Insurgent and I am awaiting the third in september.
I also loved Room, Gone Girl and Before I go to sleep. Jojo Mayes Me before you and The girl you left behind also really good but fairly easy reading. Sorry, crap capitals, can't be arsed on tablet!
I loved the Harry Potter books too. And the Twilight books. I'll read anything with a good story, whether low or high brow. Book snobs annoy me. There's one in my book club. She likes poncey books that are hard to read for no other reason than they are considered intellectual. Stupid attitude IMO.
I'm not a book snob, I simply don't like the way women write. JK Rowling is enormously talented but I can't read fantasy or kids' books. Chick-lit authors are just whores like John Grisham; churning out the same old shit under different titles. It infuriates me because I am a voracious reader but haven't been gripped by anything close to an intelligent storyline in about two years. Gone Girl was hugely enjoyable until the last third of the book which became wincingly absurd, stupid author.
I am guessing you like Phillip Pullman too Lyra! We had that on our name list for dd but weren't brave enough.
..in fact, I believe I am simply still grieving the death of Stieg Larsson
Pram, I'm not a fan of chick-lit in general either. And I agree about Gone Girl - it was all going so well but then it got a bit preposterous and the ending was awful.
Yes, big fan of His Dark Materials. If this baby is a girl I'm very tempted to call her Lyra, if DP agrees. I know a two-year-old called Lyra and at first I felt like she's stolen my name I've had this name online for years.
I also love the Steig Larsson books. Apparently he'd made plans to write about 10 books in the series but only lived long enough to complete 3
Some of John Grisham's books are great though, eg A Time To Kill. That's the first one of his I read and I loved it. For crime thrillers, I love Harlan Coben.
I've read a couple of Picoults and the like and they are very forgettable.
Currently ploughing through the second Game of Thrones book. The first was bloody marvellous. They're very fat though and there's a lot of them so it may take me a decade or so to get through them all
Pram I think you'd like Atwood - her dystopian fiction is amazing and read by men and women alike; not flowery writing at all. You also might like Kate Atkinson who is another "no nonsense" writer, she wrote the Case Histories books and Behind the Scenes At The Museum. I thought Kevin was an amazing book by Schriver but I tried and failed to read The Post Birthday World. She over-writes terribly in my view- a bit of a show-off!
Lyra is a lovely name, we know a 4yr old Lyra. It would be very fitting if you named a little girl that, Lyra!
Welcome to the new names, am on phone so can't name check you all.
So many of us for scannage on Wednesday!!
Ooh, love Game of Thrones. Have just started the box set and excited to see it brought to life on screen.
I'm another that likes twilight, recently read host aswel which was a lot better than the film. I'm currently reading city of bones before I watch the film. I do like sci-fi fantasy books quite a lot tbh lol
Sarah, I love the Mortal Ibstruments series. I'm also excited to see City of Bones.
Damn, posted too soon.
The author had also written the Infernal Devices series, which is a prequel to Mortal Instruments.
Also read a lot of Doris Lessing's books. I like her uncomplicated style of writing. The best one I've read is Mara and Dann and is set in the next ice age.
Not sure anyone is implying that anyone is a book snob.
There is a lot of repetitive cloying shite out there by male and female writers and I feel more annoyance about the marketing of said shite to women. I'd hate to think that I was lumped into any bracket let alone a pink fluffy 'she'll read any old toss' because of my gender or indeed because on occasion I love a bloody good Phillipa Gregory romp and I'm glad I didnt dismiss them because its a 'womans book'. I really missed my weekly dose of The White Queen on the telly last night or middle class porn as Dh calls it.
Hurry up the return of Sherlock to replace it..
I certainly wasn't implying anyone here is a book snob. I've met some in rl and they annoy me.
pirates mam Agreed on Atwood, also have a love/hate with Lionel Shriver. Can't stand the self obsession, either in her writing or when interviewed however after finishing We need to talk about Kevin while on a family ski trip I sat in stunned silence for half an hour with SIL who'd bought me the book asking me repeatedly if I was ok and still talking to her. Love it or hate it its pretty high impact and they come along very rarely.
I have tried - and enjoyed - a couple of Phillipa Gregory books. Did Kate Atkinson write Got Up Early Took The Dog? If so, I couldn't finish it. Before I Go To Sleep was original but became infuriatingly Groundhog Day (which was the point, I suppose). A Time To Kill blew me away and made me cry and was the reason I went on to read all of Grisham's work throughout my twenties. It is only now I look back and realise I wasted so much life on him and Patricia Cornwell.
I didn't bother watching The White Queen as it was slated as being utter toss. I have made a promise with myself to watch Game of Thrones but if I find it absurd (or that it is simply Coronation Street with tits and pelts) I will be most upset.
I once tried to be a literary snob and bought Crime and Punishment. I got to about page 14. I
shoplifted bought Shogun when I was an alcoholic and quite poorly in the bowel department. It is a 1000-plus page book and I had read up to approximately page 900. One day I had to make a dash for the toilet and, upon discovering a dearth of bog roll, had to rip out the last couple of chapters of Shogun to wipe my arse
Fnar! Corrie with tits and pelts sounds like great Sunday night viewing to me! [Grin]
Pram, I highly recommend reading Game of Thrones before you watch it. There are so many characters and families and interwoven relationships, it help to have read the far more detailed books first and then see it all brought to life on the screen later. When I do this I tend to look at the cast so I have their pictures in my head when I'm reading. Avoids the "that's not what x should look like" thing later.
The most recent book I read was The Picture of Dorian Grey which had an interesting premise but was ultimately a pile of word wankery. My very well-read friend said it was "up it's own arse" which I had to agree with.
Must admit, I like Harlem Coben too. I am not a book snob by any means, but I must admit, I attempted the Twighlight books and they actually made me so angry I had to stop...her character is just ridiculous and hate her in real life too
must deal with anger issues
Pram I feel about James Patterson the way you do about John Grisham, so good books, then the same old shite! I also loved the Steig Larrson books and was gutted when I realised there'd be no more!
To be honest, I'll pretty much read anything if its got a good recommendation. I have just been given We Need to Talk About Kevin to read...no idea what its about, but been told its good!
If you like crime, I also quite like Micheal Connelly and Linwood Barclay; but only read a couple of theirs, so not sure if they become same-y
April, might not be the best time to read Kevin while you're pregnant
Pram I feel about female singers the way you do about female authors!!! Nothing against any of them
yeah right! but its all too same-y, trying too hard, there is very few songs I will listen to with female vocals yet I love music generally!
April and anyone else who hasn't read We need to talk.., I wouldn't read it whilst pregnant! The teenage character Kevin is incredibly disturbed and disturbing and if I remember rightly the mother asks did I do something wrong whilst carrying this child. Of course you are all intelligent women capable of distinguishing fact from fiction but F me its harrowing!
Yes I wouldn't read Kevin when pregnant!!! It's one of those books that once you finish it, you want it OUT OF THE HOUSE. My friend who lent it to me said, with a haunted expression, "Here you go. I DON'T WANT IT BACK." Great read though.
Yep, the book is all about the mother exploring whether her very difficult relationship with her son right from birth led him to do the terrible thing he did or whether he was born that way. Disturbing but thought-provoking.
Thanks, Lyra - good tip. I also love Lyra for a little girl.
Right, I've just had a shufty at my bookcase and it seems I'm being somewhat unfair on female authors. I found these which I loved: everything by Marina Lewycka (^A Short History Of Tractors In Ukrainian^ is especially good); anything by Zadie Smith (although I dislike the smug bitch); The Help by Kathryn Stockett; Where'd You Go, Bernadette by Maria Semple.
I have two books by Rosamund Lupton which I deeply regret (another whore). I have Of Mice And Men by John Steinbeck and found it to be shit. Same with To Kill A Mockingbird^; why the fuck is that revered so?; I couldn't get through ^Love In The Time Of Cholera by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. I would be happy to wipe my arse on the entire Twilight saga.
These books I have adored: anything by Tony Parsons; all work by DBC Pierre; everything by Khaled Hosseini (of Kite Runner fame); The Slap by Christos Tsiolkas; everything by Truman Capote; all Gerald Durrell's work (ditto Bill Bryson); and Defending Jacob by William Landay you would all love.
April, We Need To Talk About Kevin is an astonishing book: raw and uncomfortable reading is an understatement. I am forever astounded that Shriver was able to write this stuff when she herself is childless. An iconic book, in my opinion, and very, very brave.
I have to say I am unquenchably judgemental about any person having read even one chapter of the EL James Fifty Shades series. What actually came over the female population of the world? Preposterous, desperate shite.
F&T - my first too Good luck on Wednesday! x
Apologies for italics fail and for boring the socks off the lot of you.
..and for being a tad supercilious. I don't care what you lot read 'cos I love you all, innit.
Right. Last post because apparently I have to see the sunlight at least once today.
Just in the kitchen eating croissants with dh after his 5 hours of excercise and my marathon laying in bed session. Whilst listening to the radio and reading the news on the internet dh points out the story about the female panda in Edinburgh zoo possibly being pregnant. She is showing signs of pregnancy but the vets are unsure as she was uncooperative while being scanned "maybe she couldn't be bothered with it after sitting on the sofa all day eating crisps" dh comments. What can he mean?!...
Have a good afternoon all.
Pram Schriver said (rather smugly) that she could write it because she was childless. She said a parent couldn't have written it. I read it first before I had kids and then again after - the only difference was I thought she didn't really get a handle on the birth, once I'd been through it myself. Totally agree with you about Zadie Smith but I think she might suffer over-exposure at the hands of her publicists! I loved that Ukrainian Tractors book too.
Bill Bryson books are my favourite, I haven't read for ages because I get so distracted I don't move, generally ill give everything a go and can't not finish a book no matter how shit but have avoided fiction a lot as I tend to get annoyed...! Lauren weisberger I love though!
On 50 shades I read all of them because I love twilight and was interested in how much of a rip off it was - a bit like car crash tv really, I skipped the sex bits where possible, made me feel like there were spiders under my skin, eurgh.
Ikab, how do you cope with a five-hour-exercise-regime husband? Is he smug with it?
Pirates, I dunno, can we really trust a woman called Lionel? Zadie Smith gets my goat because she feels this overwhelming urge to celebrate her race all the time. She's such an intelligent writer though; I can't believe she wrote White Teeth at the age of 21
<<<head hanging in shame>>>> I also read the Fifty books, purely because I am a nosey cow and wanted to see what the fuss was about...although in my defecnce, I gave up during the second book....perhaps it was the twighlight link...but yeh, i thought they were shit...DH said I was reading a porno lol
I will delay reading Kevin....until after the birth...... If you like autobiographies I'd read I know Why The Caged Bird Sings...its by Maya Angelou, I read it many moons ago
for my English Higher I think and loved it
Lots of my friends have husbands who go for 5 hour bike rides on the weekend. My
lazy DH says its so they don't have to help with the kids!!
Lyra apparently she changed her name to Lionel when she was a
pretentious fifteen year old.
Grey, I love Bill Bryson too. His books are laugh-out-loud funny.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoyed the 50 Shades books. Didn't find the sex bits erotic but interesting because I knew nothing about S&M but by the middle of the second book I was skimming through the sex bits because it all got a bit boring. I was more interested in finding out what happened to the characters.
Pirates also love Margaret Atwood's writing and it's quite diverse.
Reading Americanah by Adiche at the moment and really enjoying it. I think she's a pretty amazing young female writer.
Just went down to my son's nursery as I have some concerns at the moment. Instead of rationally explaining them, I broke down into blubbering sobs 5 mins in - curse these hormones. So . Thankfully recovered it before the end.
Oh and then came home and ate a load of chocolates after deciding I was going to reduce sugar intake today to see if it helped with nausea. Oops
I really enjoy reading Dorothy Koomson, The Ice Cream Girls is great, frightening, different to tv version. Goodnight Beautiful is heart breaking. Some of the others good too, all fairly easy reading but tackling different issues. I also love Sarah Walters, everything I've read of hers. Jodi Picoult OK, but I found they got a bit samey. Sophie Kinsella is great holiday reading, fun characters.
Regarding Down's testing, I have had the screening. I'd just rather have all the information possible to be honest. Don't honestly know what I'd do, but would rather know what was going on, hopefully help me worry less. Lots of things to consider in this pregnancy, I'm under the consultant so need to know exactly what's happening to stay in the right place mentally iykwim.
Good luck for all the scan ladies this week!
Coolhand, what's Americanah about? I tried to read Martin Amis but he comes across as a bellend. I wish I was intelligent enough to read a Will Self novel.
Coolhand, I, too, suspect that sugar is a huge culprit in the nausea saga and I feel rotten after indulging. Tonight I am making
creammy tagliatelle with sausage, ricotta and basil but instead of ricotta we'll be having lashings of mature cheddar 'coz we iz philistines, innit. For dessert we are having warm cherry pie and custard.
Coolhand, what were you blubbering about? Hope you feel better now.
Scan went fine. Puffin was sleeping but generally measuring on target.Lovely to see him at last Nuchal measurement was 1.6 which apparently ok as under 3.5. Dr only told me bc I asked and kept saying that would need to wait for the blood test algorithm to come back in two weeks as the bloods could change the risk. She kept saying 'WWYD with that info anyway?', I'm not sure if people normally ask but figure I've got a right to know!! Dh also seemed v happy, think it's more real now. Had a good chat with mw re epidural and she was v helpful. I'm defo having one in my birth plan after last time, and been following an interesting AIBU thread on the subject..people have v strong opinions on pain relief options in here and good to hear positive experiences. x
Ps enjoying hearing the Martian Book Club chat. My advice is read while u still can. We need to talk about Kevin is amazing....v thought provoking and one of those books you can take so many angles on..you are always questioning where the truth lies if that makes sense. The film is rare in that it lives up to the book and scarily portrays the story in my minds eye...but only watch after the book.
Aw, congratulations on the scan, Apprentice.
I fear I've come across as a twat today on this thread. That could be explained by the fact that I've felt oddly twattish all day and I'm finding it difficult to work out why. Th'usband and me seem to have segued effortlessly back into our relationship and it feels wrong to be suddenly reconciled like this. I dunno, sumfink feels strange and it's making me feel a bit twatty. Sorry.
My midwife kept asking me to think about how I would feel if I got a high risk result before deciding whether to have the test. I got the feeling she was trying to talk me out of it
Thank you everyone for suggesting so many great books. I will be reading back to find some good books when I'm in need.
I also feel shit after eating or drinking anything sugary, so worried about gestational diabetes, although I haven't had any problems and I'm very healthy. Anything sweet also makes the bad taste in my mouth worse.
You haven't been twatty, Pram. your dinner sounds lovely. I'd make it but I can't include sausage in anything because DP doesn't eat pork. Our poor baby will have to live without sausages, bacon, ham, BBQ ribs -basically all the tastiest meats.
Glad puffin's doing well, apprentice. Your nt measurement is the same as mine.
I'm on the bus and the world's smelliest man just got on and sat near me. I couldn't stand it for more than a few seconds and got up and moved. Another lady did the same thing. I feel mean but it's his fault for not washing.