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October 2013 - insert witty, worn out, nearing the end thread name here

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PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 08:11:34

New thread smile

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 08:13:12
BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 16-Aug-13 08:14:41

Ooooh, a brand new thread - thanks pseudo.

Any idea what number we are up to?

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 08:17:09

Well the last thread lasted just over 10 days which is about average I think <googles 34 weeks in days>
I'm guessing 23 or 24?

Natalieand Fri 16-Aug-13 08:20:22

Surely we haven't had 24 threads? If I had to guesstimate I would say 15? But I've stalked a few threads for other birth months and we seem to go through about 5 pages in the time it takes one person to post one message on the other monthly threads lol

HotSoupDumpling Fri 16-Aug-13 08:21:12

I'm here!

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 08:22:22

I think the furthest along person on here is 34 weeks, am I right? So that is approx 240 days, if we go through a thread in 10 days and allowing for slow threads at the beginning and a delay in starting it could easily be 20-24.

HotSoupDumpling Fri 16-Aug-13 08:25:28

You beat me to it Nat!

I reckon around 24 too...

Umlauf Fri 16-Aug-13 08:26:26

Checking in! I can't keep up... confused

1stTimer25 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:28:28

Checking in! That last thread finished quickly!

Checking in - so we have at least 6 or 7 more threads until all of the babies arrive?

This time next week it will be my last day of work woo hoo! DP told me last night that one of the groups my childminder takes DS to is having a leaving party for him on Wednesday which resulted in me being in floods of tears for an hour as he is going to miss all of his little friends. God, I'm bloody welling up now!

Anyone else feeling very breathless at the moment - the humidity is doing me in.

Flyer747 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:30:37

Checking in, blimin eck only been asleep a few hours and the last thread is finito.

Flyer747 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:33:30

Terribly breathless bowl I feel like an old woman.

cazboldy Fri 16-Aug-13 08:33:41

checking in too smile

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 08:34:19

Breathless here too

1stTimer25 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:36:23

bowl I've been feeling breathless recently too, some days are worse than others! I haven't been checked out though so can't offer any advice or solutions I'm afraid! Possibly just lack of room for our lungs now as our babies get nice and plump for arrival?!?!

We all in the same boat then. I'm really pleased I decided to finish work earlier this time, as really starting to feel heavily pregnant now at 34 weeks - breathless, knackered, legs ache if I am on my feet for more than an hour, back aches if i sit for too long, bump aches whenever I stand up - moan moan moan lol.

Any nice plans for the weekend? I have pain in the arse SIL, BIL and nephew staying - first time they have graced us with a visit for 3 years! Can't wait hmm

Kelly1814 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:46:39

Hello all!

Utterly fed up now, I live overseas so no maternity care like uk.

Working like a dog, albeit trying to do half days ( which am using vacation time for). Unfortunately no one is respecting this, clients, team etc, and am far, far too stressed by it all. And I'd might have another 5 weeks of this as scheduled to work up until 37 weeks, joy!

On the plus side, at 32 weeks, am so happy to get this far, there was a time with the cerclage I have when never thought would get this far.

And have next 4d scan on Sunday so will see the wriggler again which is always a treat smile

roxvox Fri 16-Aug-13 08:49:41

Thanks for the new thread pseudo!

Looking forward to having the next 2 weeks off work, but it does mean that I have got loads to do today! Plus when I get back I only have 4 days until I start maternity leave... It's all starting to seem quite real now!

Yes to having breathless days. I used to occasionally suffer from exercise or crying induced asthma that seems to have cleared up, but my breathing now reminds me of that. I do think that it is just that there is less room for my lungs to expand nowadays!

Haylebop12 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:50:19

That was a speedy finish!

Morning ladies, wow, better nights sleep here too. Feeling positively human.

Midwife at 10am. Hoping to hear he's head down, possibly engaged and to sort whooping cough jab.

Also handing in our house application later today, if I can find my passport. Have stressed to them already we need to know asap as our tenancy renewal landed on the doorstep on Tuesdays and we need to get it signed asap if we're staying put!

Haylebop12 Fri 16-Aug-13 08:51:16

Anyone else starting to waddle slightly? I am, with the pressure down there there's no other way!

Shirehobbit Fri 16-Aug-13 08:53:00

Sounds fun, Bowl - not. Here, have some cake.
(Loving that new icon!)

It's wedding day here, third one while pregnant with one more to go (at 35 weeks - eek).

On Saturday, I might pop over to a hen do I declined to go to because of this wedding and their main activity being Go Ape tomorrow, but it would be nice to maybe say hello in the afternoon, before they all get very merry.

Then Sunday is in-law day (with the difficult FiL) so a busy old weekend ahead.

Just cross fingers my crying phase is over, or things could get interesting!

HotSoupDumpling Fri 16-Aug-13 08:54:42

kelly, I know what you mean, I feel v grateful to have got this far. Hopefully this chicken will keep roasting for a while longer.

I'm also breathless and waddling. Btw, whoever recommended John Lewis Bravado bras way back... Thank you thank you thank you. So comfortable, and I can justify them because they are so stretchy and will grow with me.

roxvox Fri 16-Aug-13 08:55:48

I have just had a quick count and we are on thread 14 or 15. I would like to be more specific, but lost count towards the end and couldn't be bothered to back track and work out if I had counted the previous thread or not...!

ananikifo Fri 16-Aug-13 09:02:38

I have today off. I can't figure out how to watch the stupid talk talk tv so I may just do laundry and then run errands like I should be doing anyway. MW appt at 12:15 so that's a bit exciting.

We're moving our stuff into the new house this weekend. It's exciting but also really stressful. I hate moving very, very much and without a clearly defined job for me to do I'm not looking forward to it.

I hope everyone has a good day and remembers their pelvic floor exercises. (I'm trying to temind myself constantly because I'm terrible at remembering to do them, so I thought I'd remind you too!)

Oh my gosh, there is a thread in active 'have you ever had a party and no one came' - it is making my cry...

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 09:07:59

Checking in... Love the title, that's exactly how I feel. Can't even be arsed to put a brave face on the tiredness [weak smile icon]

Another NCT class last night, this one on BF. It was really useful.

Hiya ladies! Hope u are all doing well, havent had a chance to carch up on threads yet as ive just come out of hospital having had a liitle girl by emergency ceserean last wed. 7 weeks early due to severe eclamptic attack which developed into HELLP syndrome. Very scary but so chuffed we had a little girl! Shes called Josie and she weighed 3lb 9. Shes in neonatal unit doing very well with no help breathing. Feeding her expressed milk via a tube.

roofio87 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:09:39

morning! checking in! 33 weeks today and starting to get impatient!! lolgrin

roofio87 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:12:05

ahh pinklady massive congratulations! ! so pleased to hear little Josie is doing well. tht must have been very scary, but am so pleased for you!!
our first baby!!!!!!grin
sending you all lovethanks

claphammama Fri 16-Aug-13 09:13:21

Omg - new thread. Getting ready for this wedding so no time to catch up but checking in!

flyer heels packed. I'm going to unleash my inner Kim Kardashian. I won't disappoint you!

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 09:13:49

Oh my goodness 34Pink!!! Congratulations, but I'm sorry it was in such circumstances. Welcome Josie - our first baby!!

Natalieand Fri 16-Aug-13 09:16:24

Wow 34pink amazing news that she's doing so well and breathing un-aided. Congratulations to mummy and daddy. Here's hoping for a short stay in the nicu with no complications xx

1stTimer25 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:16:43

Congratulations 34pink! Glad both you and Josie are doing well!

claphammama Fri 16-Aug-13 09:17:05

What what what??? pinklady congratulations!!! Our first baby grin Glad she is doing well and what a lovely name. It's so exciting! Hope she can go home with you soon and can't wait for the photos. omg - it's so amazing!

textbook Fri 16-Aug-13 09:18:31

34Pink congratulations! Sounds terrifying but so glad Josie is doing well thanks First "October" baby! I hope you can bring her home soon x

roxvox Fri 16-Aug-13 09:20:25

Congratulations 34pink, that's amazing! Like the others have said, fingers crossed for a short stay in NICU, and it sounds as though little Josie is doing well already! I love the name as well by the way! Congratulations Mummy and Daddy xx

Haylebop12 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:21:25

Pinellas congratulations. Welcome to the world Josie. Hoping for a short hospital stay for her :-)

Haylebop12 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:21:48

pinklady auto correct FAIL!

Wow wow, 1st baby, massive congratulations pinklady. Hope you are both doing well flowers xxx

Shirehobbit Fri 16-Aug-13 09:27:07

Oh wow! Congratulations Pinklady and MrPink and Josie flowers
I hope you are recovering well and fingers crossed you'll all be home soon.
Amazing grin

HotSoupDumpling Fri 16-Aug-13 09:30:50

Oh Em Gee!!! Congratulations Pinklady on the very first baby! Hope Josie doesn't have to stay in NICU for long. There must have been a few hairy moments but so so glad she and you are well.

Sparkeleigh Fri 16-Aug-13 09:34:11

Congratulations pinklady! That must have been so scary but how wonderful she's breathing on her own! Josie is a lovely name!

legallyblond Fri 16-Aug-13 09:34:57

Wow!!!!!! Our first baby!!! Pinklady - how scary, but how wonderful!!!! Welcome Josie! 3lb 9oz is a great weight and fab that she is breathing unaided and that you are managing to give her expressed milk! Huge well done on that front. I am so happy that you are all ok, and I hope she comes home soon x

legallyblond Fri 16-Aug-13 09:38:17

Oh, and so glad they caught the severity of the pre eclampsia. We really are lucky to live in the first world.....

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 09:41:13

Yes well done on the expressing, I found that very very tough when I was unwell after my emcs and DS was in NICU - you are doing so well xx

Flyer747 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:42:01

Oh wow congrats pinklady fantastic news and so pleased little Josie is doing well...I actually thought about 2 days ago I'd not seen you on here for a while. As everyone else has said so glad they caught it and could act on it and everyone is well...thanksthanksthanksthanks First October baby yay x

Woop woop a baby! Yay! So sorry it was in stressful circumstances pink lady but absolutely thrilled for you. Well done little Josie on the breathing and feeding. I hope you get to bring her home with you very soon.

It all seems a bit real now doesn't it!

cazboldy Fri 16-Aug-13 09:50:50

Huge Congrats Pinklady flowers hope she is home soon, thats quite a good weight isn't it?

Must have been very scary!

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 09:54:33

Well after all the new baby excitement it has promoted me to get my arse in gear, especially considering I'm at reasonable risk of similar circumstances.
So I'm going to wake up properly, drag DS to Brent Cross and maybe even the big shiny Mothercare at Edmonton and buy a few things for my bag.

ananikifo Fri 16-Aug-13 09:54:58

Congrats 34pink! I hope you are ok and Josie does well and gets to come home soon!

Congratulations Pinklady so pleased little Josie is doing so well thanks

Empress77 Fri 16-Aug-13 10:11:31

Wow congrats! ickle Josie! Lovely!xx

pinkbuttons Fri 16-Aug-13 10:42:16

Wow pinklady Congratulations!! How exciting. sorry to hear you had such a rough time of it but so glad to hear shes doing so well, hope you are recovering well too. thanks
Love the thread name pseudo thankyou.
Didnt worry me orange no c section for big baby and no induction unless her weight also reaches that size.
At consultant waiting for bloods. Just been measured with paper tape measure and just to say to those that were worrying about it, have just measured 2weeks small with my "big" baby, is clearly ridiculous. Not looking like Im going to get an answer about birth today want to cry a little bitsad (bloody hormones)

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 16-Aug-13 10:44:26

Welcome to the world little Josie!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 16-Aug-13 10:46:27

<hands a tissue to pinkbuttons and gives a little hand squeeze>

Sanjifair Fri 16-Aug-13 10:47:28

Wow! Congratulations 34pink! Great news, though sorry you got so poorly. A friend of mine had HELLP syndrome and its scary stuff. She had no problems in her second pregnancy however. Gosh, the first baby on the thread! I am so unprepared, no hospital bag packed yet or anything.

Sorry to hear about people's work issues, it's not easy. As you aren't going back though clapham I would probably just let it go.

char1eston Fri 16-Aug-13 10:58:12

Thanks for the new thread, Pseudo. Haven't made it on for a few days so apologies for not responding to stuff.
I have some 20% off online vouchers for M&S if anyone would like a code? They are for clothing, lingerie, home and beauty. Have just looked at the baby stuff and they have some lovely bits. Voucher is valid until tomorrow. May be going into work later (had pains in my tummy this morning and couldn't work) but will be able to send discount codes later today.

char1eston Fri 16-Aug-13 11:06:29

WOW - congratulations pinklady and welcome to the world Josie. Having the first baby on the thread arrive makes it all the more real doesn't it - eek!
Here's some cake for you pinklady x

Pinkforboys Fri 16-Aug-13 11:08:11

Wow- a baby! Ditto to everything everyone else has said, pinklady, Congratulations, well done for getting through what must have been a really worrying time, and help yourself to a well deserved wine & flowers

Congratulations 34pinklady first baby of thread!! glad you and Josie are doing well!

No movement here this morning hoping she perks up later they are worrying these little babys!!

favellio Fri 16-Aug-13 11:14:01

woo hoo!! massive congratulations on the first baby of the thread smile
glad everything is going well xx

Haylebop12 Fri 16-Aug-13 11:16:52

Good midwife appt.

He's head down at the brim of my pelvis, that kinda makes it seem more real tbh and would explain my new waddle. She confirmed which way he's lying (back on my left side).

Measuring 30.5cms and I'm 31+5 so pleased with that.

there was +1 protein and something else present in my sample so they're sending it off as possibly a see sign if a water infection brewing. No other symptoms though so will await as ny results.

See her again in 4 weeks at 35+5. Wow I had dd at 37+5. Getting super close!

Flyer747 Fri 16-Aug-13 11:17:24

Rock that Kim K look later today Clapham, have a good wedding.

Pinkforboys Fri 16-Aug-13 11:33:09

31 weeks today, yey!

Is anyone else fed up with their maternity wardrobe? Change of weather and I find it soooooo hard to work out what to wear. Every pair of jeans I've tried/bought gives me a builders bum whenever I bend over. Or, n the case of the over the bump ones, just feels like it [sigh]

Good luck with the weddings- I think I'd be in tears if I had a to dress up for an evening, then again, at least I wouldn't be in jeans...

Sparkeleigh Fri 16-Aug-13 11:43:37

flowers pinkbuttons It's so horrible feeling teary and knowing why you're feeling that way doesn't make it better!

Has anyone else had pain in your ribs on the right side? It's been sore constantly for the last day or so for me, almost feels like a foot is wedged in-between them. I was considering ringing the midwife but from googling it seems fairly common..

On the plus side for me today, the guy replacing me in work seems pretty good so I'm considering moving my maternity leave forward to 38 weeks. With a weeks leave I'd get off at 37 weeks in 6 weeks time then. Ideally I'd like to hold out, but I'm not exactly giving them my best at the minute!

Wickedgirl Fri 16-Aug-13 11:47:57

Massive congratulations pinklady. Our first baby! How exciting. How are you holding up?

tuckingfits Fri 16-Aug-13 11:59:44

Huge congratulations pinklady. Josie is a lovely name & she sounds like she is doing really well. Look after yourself too.

I had 32 week scan yesterday to check position of placenta as it had been on my c section scar - it has moved! Sort of yay,sort of "oh shit". Just as well I am really enjoying the hypnobirthing classes & can really see the benefits of the theory.

Unfortunately I am still experiencing the shortness of breath (unexplained as I was checked out v thoroughly a few weeks ago) and it lead to me feeling like I was going to pass out in a shop we stopped at yesterday,then I had some kind of panic attack/hyperventilation episode which scared the life out of me. I had midwife appt in the afternoon & mentioned it to her & how crap I am feeling generally. Not really interested was her general demeanour. I came away disappointed & feeling let down. She commented on how tired I looked & said my iron levels might be starting to drop,but they won't take blood again for another four weeks.

She did measure my fundal height as 28 weeks (I was 31+4 yesterday) with no mention of it & the fact that the sonographer reassured me yesterday that the baby is perfectly average in terms of all measurements just goes to reiterate to me that the measurements are really just pie in the sky & should not be stressing anyone out!

pinkbuttons Fri 16-Aug-13 13:03:56

thankyou for hand holding and reassurance ladies. just back from consultants what a faff! had to wait an hr to get bloods done as they werent able to take my thyroid antibody bloods on the maternity floor ?! so had to go to main hospital. Having antibodies checked and if they're high baby will need to stay in hospital for up to a week for monitoring of her thyroid. Upset and frustrated that this has never been mentioned to me before, bt still hoping the fact that shes clearly growing well means it hasnt affected her. Have another appt at 36+6 to decide where I can give birth. Dissapointed Im not out of limbo bt guess I should be glad its been picked up on now rather than risk her being ill.
Glad all was well at scan tucking although frustrating about midwife, would it be worth getting drs appt instead incase is not just due to pregnancy? I was diagnosed with asthma whilst pregnant with DS, pregnancy just exacerbated it.
Also glad all wepl at midwives hayle
really not long to go now! The arrival of little Josie is making me think I should pack my hospital bag smile

cuillereasoupe Fri 16-Aug-13 13:08:02

Congratulations pink and DP and new baby! lovely news!

xuntitledx Fri 16-Aug-13 13:23:38

Congratulations pinklady - our first baby, so exciting! Hope you are all doing well xx

I'm thinking that's going to be a big kick up the ass for the rest of us procrastinating over hospital bags etc!

All to real now that people are having babies. Congratulations 34pink. Glad to gear little Josie is doing well and hoping it's not too long until you are able to take her home.

rubytwosday Fri 16-Aug-13 13:39:17

Congratulations Pinklady. Thinking of you and baby Josie. It sounds like you are both doing extremely well. Glad baby is growing well pinkbuttons but bad of midwives/docs etc not to mention to you before that baby will have to stay in.

Bored today - waiting in for someone to come and work out why the boiler doesn't fire properly and for a bathroom suite delivery. DP promises bathroom will be fitted by the time baby comes.......!

Shootingstarsandcomets Fri 16-Aug-13 13:46:50

Omg!! A baby already! Congratulations pinklady hope you have her home soon

Shirehobbit Fri 16-Aug-13 14:02:58

Just hopping online on the way to the reception to share something I know you'll appreciate - end of the ceremony, and there's a queue for the loo before the couple have even made it out the door, three of us, one @25wks and two of us @32wks grin
Pregnant solidarity! And all of us in heels.

moonblues Fri 16-Aug-13 14:05:18

Congratulations pinklady, so glad to hear that baby Josie is doing so well. It must have been so stressful for you all. Hope she has a short stay in hospital and gets home to you soon. Are you feeling better now or are you still on medication? Good luck with all the expressing. It sounds like you're doing great.
flowers

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 14:05:48

Squeeee! A teeny tiny squishy baby grin

Congratulations! I thought legally would be the first!

Smitten1981 Fri 16-Aug-13 14:20:57

Congratulations Pinklady. Love the name and I hope she's at home with you very soon.

snowgal Fri 16-Aug-13 14:57:56

Congratulations on the arrival of Josie pinklady, hoping you have her home very soon. Your news has totally freaked me out - I have absolutely nothing ready!!! flowers

Tarlia Fri 16-Aug-13 15:06:31

pinklady huge congratulations on the birth of Josie! How are you doing? Have you been discharged or still suffering the effects of eclampsia? Sending you all hugs x

I was sent from my 32 (+6) week check with Dr today to hospital for monitoring - they let me go home, but will call me back in later if bloods arnt clear - which I'm sure they will be as they were until 37 weeks last time.

We best get packing those bags ladies! Every day I think 'ok, today is the day' but I get no further than that :S

GTbaby Fri 16-Aug-13 15:10:19

What! We have a baby? Off to catch up. (Dismissed idea of having lunch and gets to speed reading instead!)

Sorry you don't have an answer today pinkbuttons. How ridiculous that bump is small, weight is medium and head is big. Really it seems they have no idea.

Thanks for reminder to do pelvic floor exercises Ana. I am rubbish at remembering and they make me need a wee so I have to do while near a toilet!

GTbaby Fri 16-Aug-13 15:22:58

Major speed read! Congrats pink lady x hope all is well (as it can be) and you get to bring her home soon.

But deff what was said up thread... Need to pack my hospital bag ASAP!

Need in day assessment unit. As I'm getting paranoid about itching, so thought its time to check my bile acid level n know for sure if I have OC again. Hopefully will get results later today.
But mW said regardless of results I will prob have to go in twice a week for remainder of pregnancy! For baby monitoring. And to have blood level checked once a week. As you can have the condition and the itching some time before its detectable in blood tests. Brilliant! Lots of time in hospital now hmm

Oh dear Tarlia and GT, hope all is ok with you. Hang in in there, not long to go!

terrifiednewbie Fri 16-Aug-13 15:55:48

Huge congratulations pinklady- wonderful name and so glad to hear you are all doing well. Fx crossed little Josie won't have to stay in too long at the rate she is going.

For those who are still looking to buy the bravado silk seamless nursings bras- figleaves sell some and they have 15% off with BABY15 code at the moment.

pinkmoonlight Fri 16-Aug-13 16:41:59

Wow! Our first baby! Congratulations pinklady- beautiful name and glad that you are all doing well flowers grin

Packing hospital bag has become my new priority too!

Checking in and amazin gnews that we have a baby already! Congrats on Josie flowers

Think I ought to get going on packing that bag and getting nursery sorted if only so I can put stuff away somewhere!

Off to a steam rally in mo and all day morra think I might need cake to help me get through it! Fished ball out of the back of the cupboard last night and currently sitting on it reading and typing. Much better than sofa on the back smile

Here's hoping that everyone has a good weekend and I'll attempt to catch up on everyone's news when we get home from the rally grin

grin at us all panicking that we are actually having actual babies! I've just got the moses basket down and am washing all the covers and sheets! I said to DH last week that him and the girls could get me some bits for hospital bag for my birthday at end of sept, he actually said "should u not have it packed by then?" clearly he knows better than me!

roofio87 Fri 16-Aug-13 17:55:32

haha, just sorting through stuff in baby room and dp asked about the maternity pads. He was horrified to hear about post birth bleeding and how long it can go in for. He has no clue about some things! !

HotSoupDumpling Fri 16-Aug-13 17:56:31

I've been busy stocking up on hospital bag things... the sudden appearance of Josie has really acted as a kick up the backside for me!

Prisci Fri 16-Aug-13 18:28:14

Congrats, great news about baby Josie can't believe we have a little one on the thread already.

Also making me panic, as we are not going to be home until the first week of September only to fly off afew days later for DS1 medical check up, thus can't start nesting until mid September, hopefully will not be too tired, everything still has to be done, just ordered changing table etc...which should arrive mid Sept, can't start on the hospital bag either. Compensating by knitting at every opportunity but there so many cute booties a baby can have smile

ananikifo Fri 16-Aug-13 18:43:51

Whew. What an afternoon! After my mw appt I bought cleaning stuff, went to our new house (across town), set up the fridge and cleaned things and found the shelves for our kitchen cabinets in the yard and cleaned them, went into town and bought snacks and drinks for the people helping us move tomorrow, and found a new GP and got forms, all on foot and public transport. My back is KILLING me. I don't like it when people tell me to take it easy but seriously they're right. At least one of the things I bought today was a gym ball and it feels so good to sit and roll around on it.

But on a positive note, we're moving tomorrow, and my commute will be much shorter, and the midwives in my new area are apparantly very pro-home birth and I'll likely know the midwife at my birth. smile

Umlauf Fri 16-Aug-13 18:44:47

Such lovely news pinklady and welcome to the world little Josie! Its a beautiful name, it was on our girls list and I just love it! Tell us all about her!!! Its v scary about the HELPP syndrome and pre eclampsia, as clapham was saying it makes me so glad to live in the time and place we do. I was rewatching series 3 of downton abbey the other day where Sybil has pre eclampsia and it really made me shudder.

34 weeks today though MUST get on with packing my hospital bag when I get home from holiday!

Can't believe we have a real life baby! Are you going to start the first postnatal thread pink ?!!

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 18:55:38

Agree that the name is lovely - it's my grandmothers name. She's known in the family as Hokey Cokey Josie smile

And yes, I am thinking Oh Shit on the hospital bag front... grin

Mind you, the way that Sporcamuss has been elbowing my bladder all day, I could cope with the idea of having him or her now. Seriously, it's like he or she has got a biro in there and is waving it around - its been making me wince all day sad

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 18:56:23

Oh, and Rox do we need to add a birth date column to the spreadsheet?!

GTbaby Fri 16-Aug-13 19:04:18

Just packed up babies stuff into Bags today.
Tomorrow i will get all my hospital stuff into one place so it's ready to pack when I pick up a wheelie case from my mums. I've already done toiletries and make up grin

Natalieand Fri 16-Aug-13 19:13:00

Eek baby Josies arrival has deffo made me panic about my hospital bag but I just don't have the money too go and get all the stuff I need for it ATM, as rediculous as it sounds I just have a need to have everything in the hospital bag new? Lol

Took dd to cinema this afternoon for the first time ever and she did pretty good for a 2.9 year old. Only one wee trip which I didn't think was too bad either!

Haha, I am also loving the sudden mad panic of everyone realising we are having babies. Im definitley feeling the urge to start taking it easy - ds doesn't seem to agree though.

Pinkforboys Fri 16-Aug-13 19:58:58

My Mum just reminded me to pack some nipple cream blush. I'd happily blocked that one from my memory. My online basket at Boots is getting rather full!

Tarlia Fri 16-Aug-13 20:00:32

Urg, so many painful braxton hicks tonight, not fun!

Haha yep, BFoJ we are all finally waking up to that fact :D

GT sorry you are having a pants time. How's your SPD doing? No worse I hope! Goodness, I thought weekly monitoring was bad enough! We are lucky as Clapham said to have this care available to us.

Nat perhaps you could pack the things you do have, ie baby stuff and put next to it a pile of the stuff you want new but don't yet have like pjs and then at least it's easy to grab if labour comes before shopping?

Bronzemoth Fri 16-Aug-13 20:07:54

Wow congratulations Pinklady and Josie glad everything sounds like everything is going as it well as it can for an early arrival.

I'm another one who is completely underprepared, definitely time to start moving.

Had leaflet through today, Asda baby and toddler event starts 26th Aug! I will buy some nappies then! smile

Tarlia Fri 16-Aug-13 21:08:30

Starting to get a bit worried about these braxton hicks, I'm having lots. Some of which I have to concentrait on my breathing through. I'm sure it's not labour - I'm only 33 weeks tomorrow and CTG earlier was showing 2 small and 1 medium in the 20 mins when they were monitoring baby.
What could be causing so many? I shouldn't be worried about them should I? I mean they either turn into labour or they stop, right?

Natalieand Fri 16-Aug-13 21:12:37

It may well be worth going in for another monitor tarlia especially with your PE. U shouldn't have to breath through a Braxton hicks contraction it should be painless. And if u are In the throws of labour u don't wanna leave it till last minute to get to hospital as they can give drugs in early labour to stop it on some occasions x

Soupqueen Fri 16-Aug-13 21:20:17

I came on to moan about horrible heartburn, stressy day at work and having been awake since 3am, but 34pinklady's news just puts it all in perspective.

Huge congratulations, very glad to hear of Josie's safe arrival and that she is doing so well.

tarlia, I would phone up to see if they want to see you, best to err on the side of caution?

natalie, I mean this gently, but yes I do think it's a little ridiculous to put off packing your nursery bag because everything has to be new when funds are so tight. At the very least, pack the stuff you have and replace it with new as you buy it, but if money is tight, should you be saving it for something you have to spend it on? I'm a total hypocrite by the way - I haven't started packing mine yet!

pinkbuttons Fri 16-Aug-13 21:28:30

Love that everyone is as unorganised as I am with packing smile my aim is to do it at 34 weeks so have 1 more week to get bits.
tarlia I would phone up too, are they regular? I had regular BH a few weeks ago and they asked me if my waters had gone or if they were taking my breath away so if they are, definitely worth phoning. Hope all is ok though. Also mine were caused by dehydration so could try a drink if that might be a problem. x

PseudoBadger Fri 16-Aug-13 21:29:04

I'd call Tarlia if it were me, thinking of you x

Flyer747 Fri 16-Aug-13 21:32:04

I will most likely pack my hospital bag a week before my due date. 1. I'm totally crap at getting my arse into gear 2. I'm the most disorganised person ever 3. I can pack a suitcase for a night stay in 5 minutes as I've had years doing it week on week out.

So fear not everyone who is worried about not being ready/organised I will be way behind you all in the organisational department smile

Natalieand Fri 16-Aug-13 21:33:17

I no its rediculous soup but good suggestions too pack my older stuff now and then replace it in the bag as and when I can just incase for some reason I am unexpectedly taken in cos then ill be annoyed with myself for not having sorted something to 'make do' in the mean time.

Racheld33 Fri 16-Aug-13 21:34:54

Congratulations pinklady

What a beautiful name! Hope Josie keeps getting stronger everyday and will be coming home soon flowers

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 21:53:58

Those of you who are old hands at this, can I ask did anyone labour or give birth in water?

enough of this childish excitement over the first "October" baby wink

JellyCurls Fri 16-Aug-13 21:55:56

34pink congrats on the arrival of baby Josie. I hope her stay in NICU is short and she continues to make good progress xxx

Tarlia are you dehydrated? I had strong labour like braxton hicks with dc2 that had me up all night and were coming every 5 mins. Thought was in labour so called in but was false labour caused by dehydration. Whatever you should contact hospital as they will be able to advise

char1eston Fri 16-Aug-13 21:58:42

I did comtesse. Was in the pool for hours and I loved it. Gave birth in there too. Only sketchy point was when they couldn't find babies heartbeat with the Doppler - I think she was passing through my pelvis at he time.
Would highly recommend labouring/giving birth in the water.

char1eston Fri 16-Aug-13 22:01:45

tarlia - I have also had some braxton hicks where I have to breathe through the pain. Maybe start monitoring how regular they are so you can tell the hospital if they go on or a while?

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Fri 16-Aug-13 22:02:25

Thanks Char1eston

I never thought I would want to (I'm not a bath person), but the more pregnant heavy I get more keen on the idea of not having to support my weight while I labour.

Now to my real question - what's all this about sieves? I realise what they're for of course blush but will I really need to bring my own from home? shock

chickieno1 Fri 16-Aug-13 22:03:06

OMG!! Congrats 34pink on the arrival of baby Josie! I hope you're recovering after a scary time. Well done on feeding your little girl! Hope the days till she's home with you go quickly. [ flowers]

MrsO27 Fri 16-Aug-13 22:52:32

Congratulations pinklady! Hope you all get home soon.

tuckingfits Fri 16-Aug-13 23:03:11

Thanks pinkbuttons. I might make an appointment with GP,the thought of another 8 or 9 weeks of daily breathlessness is too much for me to handle at the moment!

natalie I kind of agree (kindly too) with soupqueen - if things are tight then I wouldn't worry about needing new pjs etc for hospital - especially considering the chances of leakage etc. We are fairly strapped for cash & I will be packing things I already have. Frankly,I was so gubbed after labour last time I didn't care what anyone might have thought of the state of my pyjamas. Plus we all know that the new mummies we might encounter on the post natal wards will be utterly engrossed in their new babies & if they care about anyone's appearance it will be their own!! Seems a waste of resources to buy new stuff for potentially one night in hospital.xx

SeriousStuff Fri 16-Aug-13 23:09:21

Woo-hoo! Congratulations pinklady!!! First baby of many for this thread...really glad Josie's doing well. Enjoy every second flowers

SeriousStuff Fri 16-Aug-13 23:16:13

natalie don't panic about your bag, just pack what you can. Chances are many of us won't be at home to collect our bags when contractions start and will have to make do with what the hospital has! Get your nappies, wipes etc. from Aldi - really cheap and have won loads of awards.

tuckingfits Fri 16-Aug-13 23:18:12

Oh comtesse don't know about bringing your own sieve! Are you doing antenatal classes? Maybe they will cover it? Or ask your midwife next time you see her... Or if you're really brave start a thread & see what other water birth mums did - I had hoped for a water birth last time but didn't happen for various reasons & I didn't even consider taking a sieve - so you're already ahead on the organisation front!!

claphammama Fri 16-Aug-13 23:50:02

tarlia best give them a call and hope they stop soon and you can relax that everything is OK. Thinking of you xx

gt good they keep monitoring you. must be tiresome to have to go so often but only a few weeks left for you!

flyer I made you proud today. I wore my heels from 1pm to 8pm although took them off under the table during the dinner. A big mistake. Massive. Switched to flats later and in bed only now at 11.30pm. DP still partying.... it's been a lovely wedding in a castle in the Forest of Dean but our room is in one of the towers. Top floor. Bloody 10 flights of stairs I kid you not. Every part of my body is killing me now and I think I will spend tomorrow in bed!

pinkforboys I'm also totally fed up and bored with my wardrobe. but really trying to resist buying more at this stage - seems so close and such a waste of money... it was really nice to wear a dress today though.

off to bed now as I'm dying. earplugs ready as expect major snoring from DP later tonight. hope everyone has a restful night x

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 00:00:56

Clapham well done good going on the shoe front! 7 hours of high heel wearage you should be proud of yourself!

What earplugs do you use? They never work on me and just drop out, I have considered getting some industrial type ones (honest no joke his snoring is that bad sometimes)

Glad you had a nice day.

Tarlia I hope all is ok and it's merely a case of BH x

chickieno1 Sat 17-Aug-13 01:58:51

Hope all ok tarlia I would also say try and drink plenty and ring mw/unit in the morning. I get quite strong Braxton hicks as well even though they're not supposed to be painful I think they are!! Hope you can get some rest tonight.

Wedding sounds lovely clapham, all those stairs though not so much! Hope you can rest tomorrow.

A friend from work just had her baby 7 weeks early. That got me going so this am bought stuff for my hospital bag! When I got home and checked the thread saw 34pink's news! It is getting close.......

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sat 17-Aug-13 04:49:44

4am I have seen rather too much of you recently.

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Aug-13 05:10:51

I hope Tarlia is ok. Also haven't seen Falcon around?

legallyblond Sat 17-Aug-13 07:24:46

Morning all. I also hope Tarlia is fine and slept well.

Clapham - well done with the heels! Hope you slept ok! I know this was a while back, but on the work front, I really would just let it go. Try to relish the fact that your replacement is vaguely competent and willing to take stuff on his shoulders now... I would have loved that and felt much better about finishing this week. As it was, I was still checking the work of those I handed clients to on my last day... And finding problems.... I would take full advantage and step back now as much as you can! He was obviously v insensitive (and a bit weird) to not have run the Europe response by you while you are still there, but the moment you go, he will presumably have to go it alone... Seriously, start planning your next, more exciting, career!

GT - poor you with the extra monitoring. Is the OC (liver issue, yes?) a problem for just you or the baby too? Does it mean you'll likely be early?

had another scan / appointment yesterday at 33+6 (I'm 34 weeks today... 3 weeks 2 days until planned D day!). All ok, although twin 2's looks v small to me. They aren't overly concerned and will rescan in 2 weeks, but obviously cue worry for me! Turns out that, even though 37+3 is term, I'll still be having a course of steroids in the 48 hours pre c section to give their lungs a boost... I didn't know that before yesterday! Apparently its routine at my hospital where its a non vaginal birth pre 39 weeks (because the babies miss out on the squeezing and stress which matures the lungs in a normal labour)...

Hope the rest of you are all well.

1stTimer25 Sat 17-Aug-13 07:25:05

tarlia hope you are ok...
claphammama well done! My feet would have been like balloons after a few hours let alone 8! I'm glad you enjoyed the day smile

I'm the same with hospital bag, have it ready but I haven't forked out much for it all as like other ladies have said the chances are it won't keep if there is any leakage etc!

legallyblond Sat 17-Aug-13 07:26:51

To clarify, twin 2's head looks small.... Might call my consultant's secretary on Monday and try and get a call from him...

legallyblond Sat 17-Aug-13 07:30:41

Oh yes, and Nat - last time I ended up binning mist tings in my hospital bag as a result of staining from leaking or just because it had been in the hospital and ended up on the floor etc and I was paranoid about infection. It was all Primark stuff anyway. In the nicest possible way, I really wouldn't fork out if money is tight... Except maybe on dettol spray and some nice shower gel for that blissful post labour shower!

HotSoupDumpling Sat 17-Aug-13 08:15:09

comtesse, I was also awake at stupid o clock last night. And unlike most nights, I couldn't get back to sleep.

Question: how on earth do you fit everything into one bag!? I happily packed the post-labour stuff (towels, toiletries, pads, breast pads, massive elcs Knicks), just about squeezed in a few vests and babygros, and then there was no room for accessories like mobile phone charger and food/drink for labour! How I'm going to get a massive breast feeding cushion into hospital is beyond me.

Prisci Sat 17-Aug-13 08:23:29

Hotsoup last time I had two bags, one for labour and one for after, we left the second in the car and DP brought it up after the birth, this way we had more room etc...

I am here pseudo although having a really bad day today. Its DH birthday today I bought him a pile of pc games for his birthday (he is still a big man child at 29) so last night at about 9 he started playing them and i went through to bedroom to watch a movie but fell asleep not once did he come through to check on me at all (really struggling to move atm and having sickness) i woke up at 3am all the lights and tv was on and the dogs had not even been let in the garden for a wee angry I went through to the lounge and he was like "hi" no use of his brain at all!

Then i said did you put electric on (we have a crappy key meter) we had bought it earlier in the day, he had not and as a result of waiting so long it had went under emergency and the money we had put on the key was not enough to top it up and keep the electric on. So if he is not back from my parents with cash to add more by 9am I will be cut off and the freezer will start to defrost angry

Why cant he just use his brain according to his uni results he has one its devoid of any common sense!!!!

Sorry for the rant, I am going to have to find a way to be nice to him later too hmm

Tarlia Sat 17-Aug-13 08:29:33

Good morning ladies, thank you for all the love. Sorry I vanished, i ended up getting some hospital bag bits sorted into the cot - just incase. The contractions continued for a good while but didn't get closer together, nor painful. When I said I had to breath through, it wasn't painful but very uncomfortable, which I've experienced before. They stopped around 11.30 and I went to sleep only to wake at 3am to more, so I'm going to keep an eye this morning, nothing much yet.

Legally so sorry to hear your worry. Did they give you a gestimated weight for each? Can't wait to find out the sex combo you have.

chick wow must have really hit home as I'm guessing your friend was due with a few days/week of you!?

Flyer you can pack a bag in 5 min normally, when in labour, maybe not so much. My labour was intense from the start, I could barely get back from the toilet to bed.

Clapham go you wearing those heels for so long! 10 flights!? I can't believe it. Hope the view is worth it and the bed is/was comfy. How was the snoring? Did he manage the stairs?

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Sat 17-Aug-13 08:38:06

Morning all..

Legally hope you get some reassurance re: twin 2. Sure all is fine, but a call on Monday will be worth it if it puts your mind at ease.

Comtesse - I spent most of my labour in the en-suite bath to my delivery room (just got out to for transition and pushing stage) I loved it and hope to labour in water again. Obviously can never prove it, but I think it contributed to a quick straightforward birth. Arrived at hospital at 9am and DD was born at 11.43am.

Re: post-birth showers - I brought a gorgeous expensive body wash last time as a post-birth treat but was advised not to use it...was told plain water was best for stitches and so my natural smell wasn't masked for baby/breast-feeding/bonding etc... My NCT teacher has even advised not to wash for as long as possible.....er, no way!

That's just reminded me...did anyone else sweat like mad in the first few days after birth? Don't know if it was the ridiculously hot post-natal ward or a natural post-birth bodily response.

HotSoup - the size of my hospital bag last time around is a family joke...it was so enormous that the hospital porter was really concerned for DP carrying it and offered to give him a ride to the post-natal ward in a wheelchair!

char1eston Sat 17-Aug-13 08:44:29

comtesse I didn't take a sieve - it never really crossed my mind actually. I had an upset tummy and was sick in the early stages of labour so it was never required anyway - or so I am told! I am sure the hospital will be equipped with anything like that (unless they've specified otherwise).

I'd say definitely give it a go if you have the option. If you're not a bath person normally you may find that it's not for you. My friend got in and found it too much when she was in labour and got straight out again. You may have the option to use a bath at the hospital in the earlier stages of labour too - this will give you an indication as to whether water is for you.

One thing I'm not sure I've mentioned before is that I was given an ice pole last time I was in labour and it was amazing so I'm definitely going to take some in with me this time.

roofio87 Sat 17-Aug-13 09:01:58

I'm going to stay at my parents over the bank hol weekend, mainly to spend some time getting looked after by my mum but before I become the responisble mummy. I'm really looking forward to it but starting to feel uneasy about being away from dp for 6days/nights. I keep panicing about having the baby without him there, I won't even be 35 weeks by the time I'm back so I'm being ridiculous! ! haha.

legally, not long at all now. try not to worry about twin 2, especially if no one at the hosp seemed concerned!!

TWavre Sat 17-Aug-13 09:06:30

Hello,
I'm new to this thread but just thought I'd read it through & say hi!
I'm due with my first on the 12th Oct & so excited/nervous/unprepared.
I'm so relieved I'm not alone in worrying about when to start packing my hospital bag, I've been told I should pack two, a small one for durning labour & a bigger on for once she's arrived, the problem is I am struggling to decide whether to try and cram everything for afterwards into a small bag or just give in & admit I want to use a big giant suitcase.

roofio87 Sat 17-Aug-13 09:12:08

quick hospital bag question, ive bought maternity towels, packs of 10 from boots, how many packs should I take with me? maybe I could leave more in my 'just in case' bag I'm leaving in car and can send dp out for?!

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 09:33:02

No time to catch up ATM but roofio I would say take one pack of 10 the hospitals has their own ones that u can use if necessary xx

Soupqueen Sat 17-Aug-13 09:35:43

roofio, I think the advice is to take way more pads than you think you'll need . I've bought a pack of 10 and the box is about the size of a cereal box! Don't know how I'm going to pack more than 1!

I'm not sure at all re hospital bag size/contents. We don't have a car, so no option to leave back up supplies there. I'm also really worried about things getting stolen if I'm taken to a different room/ward/theatre.

tarlia, glad you're feeling better. legally, good that no-one seems worried but definitely call. My friends wee boy had the steroids when she had an EMCS at 37 weeks, he required no assistance after he was out and is now a cheeky 6 year old.

falcon, I was going to say "me too" when I started reading your post about pc games/man child (but mine is 40 so don't count on him growing out of it)/ forgetting everything else but the electricity/freezer/dog situation is bad. I hope he feels very embarrassed and makes it up to you today.

Can I ask the anterior placenta gang what you're feeling in terms of movement? I think mine has slowed/changed but it's always been so frustratingly inconsistent that it's hard to know when to worry! I'm 31+5 if that's relevant?

ananikifo Sat 17-Aug-13 09:48:38

This may be a stupid question but when you're in labour what do you wear? Just a nightie? No underwear? Socks?

What if you're in a pool? Would you wear a bikini top?

Thanks.

moonblues Sat 17-Aug-13 09:56:24

Good morning.

Sorry you're worried legally. I think they worry more about a small head size if it's out of proportion with the body, so if twin 2 is the smaller twin that might be why they are just scanning you again in 2 weeks and not getting too worried about it. Good news about the steroids, my DD was breech and so born by C-section and was definitely a bit grunty after birth, I think because she hadn't had her lungs squeezed on the way out!

hotsoup I think a bag for labour ward and then a bigger one for the postnatal ward is the way to go too. Don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, but my DH was ridiculously grateful for the drinks, breakfast bars, and change of clothes I packed for him (my first labour lasted a looooong time)

Clapham very impressed with your heel wearing. 10 flights at the end of the night sounds like hard work. I had to climb up 8 flights at work yesterday and was breathless at the top!

Welcome TWavre!

Bridget I'd forgotten how hot the post-natal wards are til you said! I definitely did get a bit hot when feeding as well.

You ladies are so much more organised than me. Somehow keep thinking I'll have time to get stuff sorted later, but pinklady's news has certainly focused my mind. Might try and sort out the Moses basket today and work out what I need to buy for the hospital bag. Will have to trawl back through the threads and find that list!

Hope everyone has a good day.

cazboldy Sat 17-Aug-13 10:08:11

Comtesse yes I have laboured in water 3 times, and given birth in it once.

AnythingNotEverything Sat 17-Aug-13 10:13:08

Ananifiko - my thoughts have turned to this this week! I'm off to tesco today as they have some button through nighties (how glamorous!) pretty cheap and in dark colours. Don't spend a lot though as they could get covered in blood.

In my last labour I had a real urge to strip off, which is really common, and wore pyjamas with a shirt top.

Button through is good if you want baby out straight on your chest after birth. I'm hoping to get breast feeding started ASAP this time.

And a baby already! Congrats and welcome to baby Josie.

cazboldy Sat 17-Aug-13 10:17:45

posted too soon!

Clapham glad you had a nice time at the wedding smile

legally sorry you are worried, and hope it turns out to be unneccessary xx

tarlia I know what you mean about those uncomfortable ones - i tend to get them a couple of times a week, can be a bit scary if they stop you in your tracks though xx

I have everything i need for my bag, but am yet to pack it..... though dd1 knows where everything is grin

Tarlia Sat 17-Aug-13 11:30:13

ana pretty much anything goes. Whatever you feel comfortable in. Lots of people labour in a vest top and pj bottoms, so they can walk the corridors then take them off later. Others are happier in a nightie as they can just hitch it up and down again. I will say whatever you wear shouldn't be precious - ie do not consider vying one of those gorgeous birthing gowns. As for socks I got very cold feet but they stole them as they wanted to keep an eye on my toes :/

soupqueen I'm not anterior this time but movements have really changed from kicking to rolling and squirming over the last few weeks. I'm 33 weeks today smile

caz yeah, I tend to only get that sort every few days, so surprised to get so many last night.

As for bag size, I took a rucksack sized bag for labour and a hand luggage flight case for after. Put electricals into the case as unlikely that your phone/cam will need charged as try and keep them charged up in the coming weeks (plus men can usually easily recognise these things anyway). Put excess food in case too. Soup Take maternity pads out of the box and into a few freezer bags to keep clean but this way you can squish and delflate excess air.

Haylebop12 Sat 17-Aug-13 12:12:17

ana I laboured in the t shirt I turned up at the hospital in! I really could be bothered to get changed as I was contracting with little breaks in between. So, my point being, go to the hospital in something your bit fussed about either incase you don't get chance to get changed.

Haven't even thought about it this time round. Only for one set of pyjama ready for after!

HotSoupDumpling Sat 17-Aug-13 12:25:27

This is all brilliant hospital bag advice!

I think I'll do a rucksack for labour and small suitcase for afterwards, as suggested! We can't park near our London hospital so can't leave stuff in a car. Will get some ziplock bags and decant the massive box of pads into that. DP mentioned this morning that he needed space in the bag for his overnight things (our hospital might allow us to go in a private room where he can stay the night after the elcs) and I was like 'er, no.'. Looking back, this was a tad unreasonable of me wink

ananikifo Sat 17-Aug-13 12:28:00

Thanks tarlia and hayle. I am much more of a pj than a nightie person but don't want to show up with the wrong thing. Does everyone have to take their socks off?

All the pad stuff seems easy to me. It's clothes/ footwear I'm confused about!

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Aug-13 12:33:30

The danger with pjs is if you need a catheter or something.

JellyCurls Sat 17-Aug-13 12:42:05

I laboured in my jeans n top with dc2 as was so quick I didn't have time to change or get examined but with dc1 I had an old nightshirt that I was going to bin but DH washed it and it came up like new. Same nightshirt, that's not bean worn since, is in my bag for this baby. Only advice is be comfy. Had wooly bed socks on with dc1 as was so cold but bare feet with 2 as was too hot

claphammama Sat 17-Aug-13 12:49:40

Hi girls! Had a relatively good sleep after the long day yesterday and was the only person at breakfast without a hangover! DP came back at 2.30am and managed not to wake me up, not even with his snoring. flyer I will post a photo of my earplugs on Facebook - the only ones that work for me. they are used by professional swimmers apparently and really work. They are very sticky and you can shape them to your ears like a blue tag. I buy them in Boots. We are now back at DP's mum in Cheltenham. He is snoring on the sofa (obviously) and she is doting on me.

how are you feeling now tarlia? have they eased off a bit?

re: labour outfit... I was quite shameless I'm afraid. I wore a black vest and nothing down there... I couldn't stand anything below my waste... (not my usual behaviour I promise but I was in so much pain I couldn't care who sees what etc) At one point the midwife wanted to cover me for a doctor check up to make me look more decent and I just barked at her so she didn't.

legally try not to worry too much hard as it is, like everyone said, I'm sure they would react if they thought something was wrong. you've done so well to get to 34 weeks with twins!! (and yes, I'm letting the work stuff go and planning for my brighter future instead smile)

falcon this sounds stressful but hope it turns into a better afternoon and evening. And yes - as soup said, they don't grow up... mine is 39...

ana the sieve... it made me think... didn't think about it until now. Believe it or not, my biggest worry about the labour was that I would push out something else in addition to the baby... I was actually so paranoid about it that refused to push at first when they asked me to push... I'm also really worried about it this time... I will ask midwife about it at my next appointment.

hotsoup which London hospital are you going to?

And I told DP pink lady's news yesterday and now he really wants to cancel his trip to HK! I would be 33-34 weeks when he goes.

claphammama Sat 17-Aug-13 12:56:07

and forgot - Bridget, I can't remember sweating after my first birth but read something about it somewhere last week. apparently it's normal to sweat profusely in the first few days after birth as your body gets rid of excess water etc

Kelly1814 Sat 17-Aug-13 13:46:45

Hi all!

Legally, I had the steroids at 24 weeks when they thought my baby was coming, aside from the indignity of an injection in each buttock they were fine. I'll be having my section at 36 weeks (if get that far, fingers crossed) and they have mentioned they may give me a second dose but undecided as yet.

Bracing myself for another week at work, thought of it is horrific. May have to eat some biscuits to get myself in the mood smile

Bronzemoth Sat 17-Aug-13 13:59:39

anything good call on the tescos nighties. The check shirt one is exactly what I was looking for, button up but not too nightie-ish. I've also been confused as to what to where I've read other threads where some of the answers have been dismissive about clothing being the least of your worries. It may end up like that but if like the option to maintain a small amount of modesty if possible. My only question is what size. I was size 10 before pregnancy do I just go as big as they go 20-22?

roofio87 Sat 17-Aug-13 14:31:54

bronze i was a pre pg 10/12 and have bought one nightie 20-22 and one 16-18. both are still big on me now at 33 weeks, but even the bigger one isnt ridiculously big!

ananikifo Sat 17-Aug-13 15:30:25

So are we thinking something like this or this or more like this? I guess I would need to get my lazy bum to tesco and see them in person to make sure the "button detail" actually unbuttons.

Hi everyone. I'm exhausted today too. I didn't get to bedu til almost 3am. it was my mum's 70th yesterday and we all we t up to see her and had a wee house party.
My Dp made the stupid mistake of getting very drunk and falling asleep in one of the bedrooms. My brother and the dc's thought it would be very funny to cover him toothpaste. When he woke up he wasn't best pleased and seemed to blame me even though I was very considerate and videod the incriminating evidence and put it on facebook.
He told me that he wouldn't be looking after dc's today to let me meet my friend for lunch but he saw the funny side eventually and relented. Hopefully it will put him off getting so drunk in the future.

MrsO27 Sat 17-Aug-13 15:46:23

soup I'm anterior placenta and would be similar to you. Inconsistent. 2 days this week baby was very active but yesterday and today, not much at all. Just putting it down to what I was told about the way baby is facing. If you're worried, have a cold drink and something sweet and place 2 hands on your stomach in quiet room for 30 mins. If you have no movement in that time, ring your mw/hospital. It's a constant worry though so I do sympathise. Much prefer the active days as I can get on with my day without worrying so much!
clapham I can't give much advice on the work situation as even though I know I shouldn't stress about it, I do. Meeting with the CEO on Monday about a particularly difficult project and it's all I can think about this weekend (although after last weekend, I'm avoiding my emails!) Just counting the days to maternity leave and trying as much as I can to step back and away from situations I am powerless to resolve in the time I have left, especially now my cover has started. Unlike your replacement, mine seems to be less ambitious and a bit of a lazy bones and quite happy letting me do everything, but I got that sorted on Friday! I know I shouldn't feel this way, but kinda hoping he is a bit sh!t so they realise how lucky they were to have me grin. That's bad isn't it?!

Pinkforboys Sat 17-Aug-13 15:57:19

MoN thanks for sharing, made me laugh!
Falcon I do hope your other half saw sense and got the electric on. Not a stress you need. Poor dogs too sad

You've all been making me think about my labour with DS. I'll echo what others have said- make sure you're comfy. Really comfy. I went to hosp in really loose trackie bottoms plus loose T-shirt/vest and my favourite but v old loose jumper. The contractions made me want everything off my tummy so I lost the bottoms, but the loose tops covered my dignity.
With regards to the other, er, things you might push out, I found that I naturally needed the loo just before transition (thank God!!) tho that meant wandering down the hall to the loo in my next to nothings in front of the security guards (!?)
Somehow DS went straight to my boob- I think I lost all care for my dignity by the end of the labour and just stripped off.

I took so much stuff in my hosp bag that I didn't use. There's also the worry that nothing's secure there. Button open nighties are def the way to go, or crossover ones where one side drops down. I'm already wearing 2 of the ones I wore post-DS.

Oh- and if you want/can it's worth investing in some 'nice loungewear for when you're receiving guests' post birth at home. You may not feel like wearing anything without an elastic waist for a very long time...(I think I went for a size L when I'm usually an S)

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sat 17-Aug-13 16:27:25

Thanks to those answering my questions about water births. We had the last of two NCT classes today and I am now pretty sure that I'd want to labour in water, possibly even give birth in the pool. Of course, there's a chance I'll hate it, but I'd like to give it a go.

I was also reassured that there's no need to bring a sieve blush

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 16:33:05

I think instead of a pyjama set for after or even just a nightie perhaps a nightie and pyjamas bottoms (which loads of places sell separately nowadays) is best cos then if u do have a catheter u can not bother with the trousers but alternatively if u feel more comfortable u can cover up to go to toilet etc i no that's what I did last time and I just wore track suit bottoms and vest top home.
I second what pink days sbout comfy loungewear especially for why u have visitors the last thing u want is to be wearing your pyjamas but at the same time u don't wanna be wearing jeans either especially if u do end up with a c sec.

I can't remember who asked originally but I'm in the anterior gang and the last few days I've felt little in the way of movement but what he is doing must be behind the placenta as my tummy is jolting like he's moving but I can't feel it also he keeps jamming something under my ribs as its difficult to sit in some positions without feeling like my ribs r gunna break.

MoN your story about dp did make me chuckle- always essential to video and put on Facebook lol

I made the first step towards my hospital bag yoga ex dog buying giant pants the other week by collecting the bag ill be using from my sister

falcon where will u be getting your post birth nighties from? I don't mean to cause offence but I'm on the bigger side too so thought I could steal your ideas. Cos I noticed lots of the ladies usually a size 10ish r buying 20-22 nighties and I would usually buy that size anyway and not
Many places accommodate for bigger than that?

Last time I laboured in long vest top and pyjamas trousers u til my waters broke then changed into a hospital gown and tbh I have no idea what I wore post birth x

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 16:38:00

Oh and I've had a successfull day today WRT buggies

I've managed go get my brand new mirrored chassis babystyle oyster + carrycot + colour pack for a total of £336 which should infact cost £494 by harrassing customer services with various deals they have done over the last few months so I'm well chuffed with that

afternoon has got better thank god!

nat I just bought a 2 pack from mothercare size 18 and they are quite roomy but bhs has some nice big ones too that i might buy incase of prolonged stay. I also have a joe browns one from simply be its a 22 and enormous "boyfriend shirt" button down the front but its white which is an issue for labour/post labour leakage but its super comfy

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 17:23:30

Thanks falcon my mum got me a 2 pack of from asda in size 24-26 which fit fine in my belly but they r thin strapped and quite loose around my boobs so a bit to revealing hopefully they do normal nighties with short sleeves in that size too ill have to have a look x

SeriousStuff Sat 17-Aug-13 17:42:46

Welcome TWavre we have the same due date!

DH is with friends all weekend (last chance he'll probably have for a few months now!) so I've started washing baby clothes/blankets/towels etc... I'm 32wks today so not sure if I'm getting ahead of myself but thought, the baby could come anytime now so best be prepared!

Comtesse the sieve is what freaks me out about water births. I'm a bit of a clean freak so sitting in dirty water really worries me. But I figured, when I get in, the water will be perfectly clean and by the time the water includes other 'stuff' I'll be too far into labour to care! Baths have really helped me relax during my pregnancy so I'm hoping a birthing pool will do the same.

Wickedgirl Sat 17-Aug-13 17:55:35

I too would like a water birth this time. Having warm baths really helps with my SPD so I'm hoping that a water birth will help with that too. I love baths so I should be happy to birth in a pool.

roofio87 Sat 17-Aug-13 18:38:13

haha, dp keeps putting his head on my bump and talking to baby and every time baby kicks him in thr head!!!grin

AnythingNotEverything Sat 17-Aug-13 19:01:17

Anan and Bronze - I bought a purply brushed cotton checked nightshirt from tesco today, somewhere between the first two links Anan put on. I was a 14 pre pregnancy, tried in a 16-18, and there's a couple of inches space now, and space for when my bump drops (currently almost 32 weeks).

I wanted the black one but they didn't have it in my huge tesco. Think I'll order it online. Will be good for those middle of the night feeds too.

They did go up to a 20/22 but they we're really roomy.

TWavre Sat 17-Aug-13 19:05:25

Thanks SeriousStuff - I'm doing exactly the same as you this weekend, washing all the clothes I've managed to buy so far @ folding it neatly in drawers.

My other half has just started looking at baby stuff on amazon & keeps showing me the most adorable (but horrendously expensive) outfits!

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:19:38

Feeling rough, banging headache and feel very sick hmm

Back from NCT and it's still fair to say our instructor is possibly one of the most opinionated people I've ever met....

Soupqueen Sat 17-Aug-13 19:25:05

flyer are you getting any spots in front of your eyes? Any swelling? Is it worth a call to the midwives?

We had our NCT breastfeeding class this afternoon, really useful. I've found the classes very good and informative, and not experienced any of the horror stories I'd heard about thankfully.
I have now got a hospita bag list and worked out what I still need to get, so feel a lot more organised (even though I'm not actually organised at all)

Absolutely shattered thinking of going to bed!

Prisci Sat 17-Aug-13 19:28:52

I don't know how but I always end up completely naked, just don't like having anything on during labour, but with ds1, I kept my socks on since I was cold, very sexy indeed. It is not like me but I figure that the MW and the Dr have seen everything by now. I start with front oppening nighty just in case, so I can have skin to skin/ try breastfeeding after the birth but DP is briefed about covering me up after birth if I get naked again blush. For post birth/home, I bought a couple of those from vertbaudet:
www.vertbaudet.co.uk/maternity-cardigan-top-trousers-outfit.htm?ProductId=008000001&t=6#
Not the cheapest option but the outfit is very comfy, washes well and the elasticated part of the trousers goes really high, so ideal in case of a c-section and can wear them already prior to birth. The only downside is that there no opening for breastfeeding for the top.

I am not sure if anyone as seen, but I have been looking for padded breastfeeding bras, any suggestions? I often forget the pads, I usually don't leak but I don't like having my nipples sticking out.

Soupqueen Sat 17-Aug-13 19:29:40

And thanks for the reassurance re movements. I know this makes me sound a bit like a spoiled brat, but does anyone else feel a bit cheated with the anterior placenta? I'm constantly worried and would love to feel the things I'm hearing about. Also means DH hasn't really felt anything and I really feel for him.

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Aug-13 19:34:05

Flyer please call (broken record again) as PE doesn't have to have all symptoms to be there.....

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:36:28

No soup my vision Is crap at best of times I'm blind as a bat haha, luckily no swelling and had my urine checked for protein the other day, and bp was 100/60. So just a pregnancy symptom I guess.

I might bring my maternity leave forward I'm feeling so rough these days.

We were talking about hospital bags at Nct today opinionated instructor told us don't even bother packing a phone charger hospitals won't allow you to use them in their electrical sockets ..I presume she is talking crap?!

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Aug-13 19:39:01

BP can rocket at any time.....

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 19:39:37

She's talking crap flyer xx dh was in hospital for ages when he had his appendix out no one even batted an eye lid about him using his charger plus when I worked on maternity briefly I never knew of anyone being told not to use their charger x

roofio87 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:40:43

when I was in hospital I had my phone charging, laptop on, mini dvd player you name it!!!

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:41:41

I love it though as one of the ladies on the Nct course is an intensive care doctor so on medical things she keeps correcting opinionated lady instructor who doesn't like it one little bit (DR woman is lovely) I sit there and chuckle to myself gringrin

Pinkforboys Sat 17-Aug-13 19:46:39

Ooh- I'm liking this exchange of shopping links!
Just to throw in another twopenneth, I found vest tops really good last time when bf in the autumn/winter worn with a loose top- I hitched the top up and the vest down (if you get what I mean) and that kept my tummy and chest warm and kept me pretty covered- good if you're a little shy about the bf in public part. I found it easier than draping a scarf around me.

Can I appeal to other weak PF sufferers- are you just using big pads? I thought delicate liners would cut it but they just ain't enough! blush

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:46:41

Good DP got a shock at the mere thought that he couldn't charge his iPad, iPhone, MacBook (which if he insists on using on the throws of a contraction might just get chucked out of the window) grin

Pseudo I will see how tonight goes if I still feel like I've been exhumed in the morning or I get worse I shall indeed give the maternity assessment a call. I've felt this way for a few days now, still awaiting blood test results back.

Pinkforboys Sat 17-Aug-13 19:49:31

My msg overlapped- flyer hope you feel better, but it's always worth calling m.a. if you're feeling odd. xx

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sat 17-Aug-13 20:01:00

Such a shame Flyer that you've had a less than positive experience. Doesn't the instructor realise that she's weakening all the messages she gives if she's so negative about this sort of stuff?!

We've been really lucky and I was worried about what we'd get in terms of instruction.

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:09:12

Comtesse I just take her opinions with a pinch of salt. I've picked up some good tips from the course (birthing balls, facts on inductions, positions for labour etc) and the breast feeding workshop was really good.

She is big into home births, which I have to say sound quite appealing, however as its my first I think I would panic and worry in case there was a complication. She was saying about getting better attention as 1 on 1 with the midwife, where as a hospital birth the midwife has probably 4 women to look after.

She was also saying cot bumpers are dangerous, I have absolutely no idea when it comes to this kind of stuff being inexperienced, so what do you ladies who are mums already think?

Pinkforboys Sat 17-Aug-13 20:14:59

Cot bumpers dangerous? I think they need to be well fixed/fitted to the cot, but I was worried about DS getting his arms stuck through the bars of the cot without one!

And as for midwife- when things got going my mw stayed with me through from transition to delivery. Surely the other factor when considering a homebirth is your proximity to hospital should anything (heaven forbid) go awry?

I'll be interested to hear other Mum's experiences...

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:19:14

Yeah she was saying cot bumpers are dangerous because If the baby rolls over and presses his nose against it or underneath it, then a danger of suffocating, also she aid about getting his/hers hands or feet caught up in the strings. All sounded a bit far fetched to me quite honestly.

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 20:19:18

Wrt to attention from a midwife- once I got to 4cms I wasn't left alone at all in the room and before that I was on the maternity ward with my mum being checked on at intervals and u wouldnt get a midwife with u at home until u were in established labour anyway

I used a cot bumper for dd and she's still alive. She used to head but her bars all the time where she would thrash around so a cot bumper was essential for us

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 20:20:10

flyer cot bumpers are very thin anyway and also the strings are only a few CMs long so wouldn't even go round their neck

AnythingNotEverything Sat 17-Aug-13 20:22:38

I don't think cot bumpers have been recommended for years. SIDS advice is that there should be nothing in the cot but the baby and their blanket for fear of an incident.

I think they're one of those things that the shops push and look pretty but are actually unnecessary.

Sanjifair Sat 17-Aug-13 20:24:53

I think the cot bumpers being dangerous thing is for when they are older and start climbing. They can use it to climb up the side of the cot and then plummet down the other side.

I'm not sure why they would be dangerous before then.
I might buy a nightie this time, had a catheter last time so ended up with just a t-shirt on top.

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:25:22

I think she is full of rubbish as well grin. DP told her we were getting a video baby monitor and she practically jumped down his throat saying it was not necessary and we'd end up watching the baby constantly and you can't live life like this (her exact words) felt like a right pair of idiots haha! We had a laugh about it in the car on the way home though. grin

PseudoBadger Sat 17-Aug-13 20:30:35

Balanced report on cot bumpers.

Shirehobbit Sat 17-Aug-13 20:41:47

My mum gaffer taped pillows around my cot as I was a proper nightmare for damaging myself without them - earliest form of cot bumper? blush

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:46:47

Haha shire that's funny grin

The birthing suite at liverpool womens has a disco ball in there and different colour lighting, does someone think labour supposed to be a fun occasion shock

MrsO27 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:48:11

prisci The bravado silk nursing bras have pads. I bought 2 after they were recommended on here and they're great.

Natalieand Sat 17-Aug-13 20:50:24

These r a good alternative too cot bumpers to provide some padding against bumps but not a suffocation risk.

hippy chick bumpsters

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Sat 17-Aug-13 20:51:25

Pinkforboys - I'm using tena lights long liners and they are doing the job ok. Doubt a regular panty liner would cut it though.

Thanks Clapham for the info on post-birth sweating - makes sense as it seemed more than just a reaction to being a bit hot....I was pretty grim tbh!

On the midwife attention topic - DP and I were pretty much left alone until the pushing stage...worked out quite well though (made for a relaxed, private atmosphere) and think I'd now find too much attention intrusive. I'm trying not to let my past experience shape my birth expectations too much but it's hard for them not to.

Hi all, I'm not pg but I was on the October 08 thread for my PFB, now approaching 5, so I thought I'd come on and wish you all the very best of luck. I can't believe 5 years has passed so quickly, she's starting school in a few weeks! Anyway, interruption over, as you were smile

monkeytree Sat 17-Aug-13 21:02:47

Congratulations Pinklady on the birth of baby Josie.

Another breathless individual here. When it was really warm I had a few scary breathless attacks in the middle of the night - I'm wondering if I had rolled onto my back. GP can't find anything wrong. MW suspected low iron but that came back O.K too. I suspect the breathlessness will be with me until I give birth in 10 weeks! I'm even limiting the number of journeys I make up and down the stairs now! Achy legs particularly when tired which is often these days due to poor sleeping patterns. Trying to take each day as it comes and resting as much as possible but that is sometimes easier said than done. It's a shame to wish time away and I don't usually like doing it but have found myself doing it often lately as I feel so restricted and cant wait to meet DD2.

Back to work in a couple of weeks. Work can be a good thing as my mind is absorbed and time passes quickly but also worrying about how I will cope with tiredness and concentration on my not so good days

Re labour - Previous labour in dim and distant pass but seem to remember wearing a hospital gown and having a bath with a couple of drops of lavender oil after birth- could be totally wrong about the lavender oil it just seems a blur. Really enjoyed the tea and toast they brought round I remember that though!

GTbaby Sat 17-Aug-13 21:34:55

Pricsi bravado seamless bra also has padding. I haven't tried but look at them online.

I took a long vest for last labour. Kinda the style that was around last summer, almost dress like, long at back n shorter at front. Covered my bum. While I was being induced I wore DH pjs for walking around ward.
When they cited my epidural I had to put on a hospital gown. Which I then kept on. Which was fine n comfy n I didn't have to worry about washing it.

After labour and shower I put on yoga pants n nightie (from mothercare but very similar to tesco one linked to earlier)
At home I wore yoga pants with nighties for first few days. N a big black "waterfall" style cardigan (I think that's what it's called where they deal down kinda like a shawl style)
I then progressed to yoga pants n t shirts when popping across road to the shop or when ppl came over.

Blood results came back. Bile acid is normal. But me still wants to check me weekly hmm I think it's proof that its in my head. But she said no its not.
On the good side is my iron level is back to normal grin woop woop. I'll continue to take them , just incase , as it dropped after my last birth.

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sat 17-Aug-13 21:43:04

Thanks Honeymoonmummy I think we're going to need it grin

I was wondering the other day whether MNHQ err look at these threads and say to themselves "ah yes, they are all approaching 32 weeks, we'll have our first baby soon and then they'll all start panicking about their hospital bags". Does all this sound very familiar to you?

legallyblond Sat 17-Aug-13 23:32:36

A couple of things....

I didn't give birth in the water but, almost unintentionally, laboured for the most part in water. I was induced and was having mild contractions at 2cm dilated. A lovely midwife (I was still on ante natal ward at this stage) ran me a big bath with lavender oil and said it would be relaxing... Anyway, after about 45 mins / an hour in that bath, I was 9cm dilated and DH was called and told to arrive pronto!! DD was born just over 3 hours later though as I had almost 3 hors of pushing stage... Not sure I would have wanted to push in water - I liked the stability of the different positions "on dry land"! I would day go for it though - you can always get out for the final bit..

Re post birth/post hospital clothes, last time I lived in either long black jersey dresses from H and M (they still do them now - non maternity but they fit me now!) with the kind of chunky strappy sleeves, with a drapy cardigan or huge scarf or loose jumper for bf (the dress neck line could easily be hooked down under my boobs, but I am not huge on top); or black maternity leggings (over the bump so fine post cs) also from h and m plus the vest top/loose top combo I've mentioned before for bf. Personally, I really hate being in my pyjamas in the day,and that was just as comfy.

Flyer - poor you, hope you feel better tomorrow.

GT, that's good about the results.

MoN - are you any closer to getting your cs date...?

Can't remember who asked, but I did get guesstimate weights yesterday - twin 1 is 5lb5 and twin 2 is 4lb9... Not bad for 34 weeks (actually 33+6 then). My goal is to get both to 5 and a half, or even 6lbs.... Both are breech (and unlikely to budge) and are giving me painful kicks in my groin and throwing the craziest shapes. I am ALL tummy and sometimes its literally like a triangle outwards!!! So unlike DD which was much more "all over" and rounded.

AnythingNotEverything Sat 17-Aug-13 23:41:59

Legally - funny you should mention the shape of your bump. I find that baby is either on one side or the other, leaving me distinctly lopsided! I don't remember being like this with DS. I think this baby might be the kids who sleeps curled up in the corner of the cot!

Flyer747 Sat 17-Aug-13 23:44:44

Legally it's so exciting not only are you having twins but they will be here very soon and you don't know the sex either. I bet you can't wait to meet them now. smile

legallyblond Sat 17-Aug-13 23:53:29

I know Flyer, I am getting excited... But also worried as I so, so want them to be alright (I was also irrationally worried about DD) and I really want to get to the c section date.... Y'ouch - daggers in my cervix from tiny heels right now...!

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 00:03:17

Aww so cute, they'll be just fine I bet, they have fab birth weights already for twins and another 3 weeks to go. A friend of mine from school had her twins at 25+3 and they are 2 now and really healthy little kids...you'll be just fine smile

favellio Sun 18-Aug-13 07:11:37

Whoop whoop!! Just managed to go an entire night without leg cramp!! I think I may have cracked it! I realised that I was drinking gallons of water a day and it may have been upsetting my natural mineral and sodium balance by diluting it too much. So yesterday I ate lots of salty things, drunk a couple of lucozade sports drink, that claim to replace lost electrolytes etc, had a dyralyte rehydration sachet before bed and...........no excruciating leg cramps!
I hope to god that is wasn't just a fluke that I didn't get them coz they were waking me 3x a night and affecting my walking throughout the day.
I hope everyone is ok?thanks

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sun 18-Aug-13 07:25:45

Wow Legally they are a great weight already! Bethan's for the water birth tips. My boss told me that his wife had planned a water birth, got in and loathed it so she got out within 10 minutes. I think that's what appeals - much more than something like diamorphine where, if you don't like it, you've got another 5 hours til it wears off.

The movements I am feeling now are a lot more swirly (I don't know how else to describe it) and are more obviously baby shifting position than kicking as such. I have to say that it's not always an entirely pleasant sensation - I've heard having a CS described as someone washing up in your stomach; well that's quite like what this feels like too!

Shootingstarsandcomets Sun 18-Aug-13 07:57:42

Just quickly popping in to say hot milk bras are on sale with zulily this morning. I've just bought two and matching bottoms woo hoo!

Pinkforboys Sun 18-Aug-13 08:41:07

Thanks shooting, just invested in a pretty bra- makes a change from my 6yo Elle Macpherson numbers that are looking rather grey tired.

It's amazing hearing about babies weights in-utro already- makes it all sound so real and imminent! With DS he seemed to always have something slightly amiss so I had buckets of scans, but this time I'm being left well alone. Scan this Weds though, so hope to hear that all is still ok & she's still a girl! For those being told you've got a 'big head' to deal with, they said that about DS and his was perfectly normal size when he came out.

I'm in the low-energy club too. Time to hit the iron?
Anyone else suffering from acute sense of smell? Body odours and marmite are really getting to me.

MrsO27 Sun 18-Aug-13 08:52:53

favellio Fingers crossed you've cracked it with the cramps! Calf stretches before bed seem to help too I've found. And pulling my foot/toes up towards me and stretching the calf if I feel the earliest sign of one coming on.
What's everyone's experience of diamorphine and pethadine? I've been reading up about them and don't really like the sound of pethadine as I hate the feeling of being out of control, like when you've had too much to drink; but I've had no experience of either drugs.... Like you say comtesse it can take a long time for them to wear off.

ComtesseDeFrouFrou Sun 18-Aug-13 09:00:59

MrsO that's exactly how it was described to me - like that stage when you're really drunk and you know it, but you just have to wait to sober up. Apparently it can make you feel quite sick too.

My mum had it and said that it helped her sleep. I think my sister and a friend of mine also had it, but they both had forceps deliveries because of shoulder dystocia.

I might see what my sister thought - I'll report back.

HotSoupDumpling Sun 18-Aug-13 09:06:33

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for the shopping links! Really really useful, as I've been angsting about hospital wear and breast feeding wear. I have very few breast feeding friendly tops.

Clapham - you asked ages ago, but I'll hopefully be at the Royal London.

Honeymoonmummy - thanks for popping by!

MrsO27 Sun 18-Aug-13 09:09:05

I absolutely hate that feeling comtesse which really puts me off! I also found a really old thread on here which discusses pain relief which is quite useful- www.mumsnet.com/Talk/childbirth/4291-pain-relief-in-labour-pethidine-or-diamorphine/AllOnOnePage

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 09:36:13

In nursing bra sizes do you buy the size you are now? As my rib cage seems huge I was a 32C pre pregnancy now a 36E but wondering whether to buy a 34E as my rib cage will hopefully go down after giving birth?

Sanjifair Sun 18-Aug-13 09:49:22

Diamorphine - well it depends how you feel about hard drugs. The other name for diamorphine is heroin...
I've no experience of either pethidine or diamorphine myself, had an epidural last time.

pinkbuttons Sun 18-Aug-13 09:55:39

I had pethidine with DS and made me so so sick will be avoiding at all costs this time. Saying that it took me a good few hrs to just get the hang of using the gas and air properly (I wasnt taking direction well) so hoping will cope better with that this time, and also hoping for a water birth if am allowed at the MLU. Hadnt even thought about taking a sieve though!confused

Pinkforboys Sun 18-Aug-13 10:05:12

flyer I was wondering the same thing. I seem to remember hearing that you go down one in chest size but up one in cup size so most maternity bras roughly fit you both pre and post birth. I gambled and bought a bra based on my current size anyway. Will probably have to send it back confused

Shirehobbit Sun 18-Aug-13 10:06:34

I have a bra-fitting question too, Flyer - also about rib cages...
My bra is riding up at the back, which is meant to mean the back size is too big, but it feels tight and uncomfortable under my boobs confused
I do have a very short back (hip to shoulders), I'm under 5'2" with a 30-31" inside leg, so my bump is very much squished into a small space, right up to my boobs, meaning bra is practically on bump and has been for weeks.
Only really comfortable option is bra free (impractical) or bandeau strapless ones - which give a mono/square boob look.
Help?!

Natalieand Sun 18-Aug-13 10:09:33

sanji I think I had diamorphine when in labour with dd (can't fully remember) and I have to say I wasn't aware it is the same as heroin and the thought of that has really put me off having it this time round, I wish someone would tell u these things when offering them to u instead of just would u like some diamorphine to take the edge off!!

Soupqueen Sun 18-Aug-13 10:33:12

I think your back size might go down when the baby drops, so they recommend shopping for nursing bras at about 38 weeks. I've just ordered a couple of the bravado ones (not the lovely body silk ones which don't come in my size sadly) in the hope that they are stretchy and forgiving enough to wear now and also afterwards.

shire, I feel your discomfort. I'm 5'1 with 29" inside leg so similarly proportioned. Bras are not comfy just now but the bravissimo lady reckons I've got the best fit I can just now. I'm placing a lot of hope in these bravado ones that are winging their way to me!

I'm grumpy this morning. Suffering acid reflux and feeling a bit queasy so had a battle with myself about whether to go to yoga or not. Decided to (wo)man up and stop moaning only for the sodding bus to sail right past me because it was full. Bloody Edinburgh festival! No way for me to get there on time so I've come home.

To be honest, there is a tiny part of me that thinks I'd quite like feeling a little drunk, but most of me would prefer to avoid diamorphine and pethidine as I don't want to make breastfeeding any harder than it already will be and am keen to avoid medication as much as I can.

TWavre Sun 18-Aug-13 10:35:51

ShireHobbit- have you tried sleep bras? I have a pack of 2 from Mothercare that work really well when my maternity bras are in the wash. A lot if people have said sports bras are really good too- but if I remember correctly there is a mono boob issue!
Re pethadine, I'm a first timer so I can't offer a personal experience but my sil who is a student midwife & my NCT teacher have said one thing it's good for is getting you some sleep if you've been in labour for a really long time but aren't even close to being fully dilated yet.

Shirehobbit Sun 18-Aug-13 11:42:22

Thanks twvare, I have been wearing my pre-pregnancy sports bras as they are quite comfy, only their is the mono-boob issue, and they are a bit small given how much I've grown.
Glad it's not just me, soup grin - I've found myself looking enviously at taller pregnant ladies with long backs, who have that glorious scoop/slimmer bit below their boobs and before bump blush

Shootingstarsandcomets Sun 18-Aug-13 12:20:00

Re nursing bras your ribs will go back in once baby has come out. I'm normally a 32d but am now a 34dd so have bought 32dd so my normal back size and one extra cup size- same size I was when I was feeding ds so hopefully they'll fit.

Tarlia Sun 18-Aug-13 12:43:36

legally amazing weights!! Bigger than my singleton smile

Flyer how are you feeling today?

Sweating post birth- yes, yuk! I woke soaking at night after about a week. Lasted quite a while, however not as long as my friend who was still suffering almost 2 years later! Apparently it's all hormones (from pregnancy and more if breastfeeding) and excess fluid.

Bras- my suggestion is, unless you need bras now as you've grown again (in which case buy a nursing bra but nothing too extravegant as mostly likely wont fit after for a while) then buy these I leaked buckets at night so having something comfy and could hold pads was a must for a good 8 months! Yes, hello mono boob but when you are engoreged with milk all you want is comfort. Then you can sent DP out to buy a selection of sizes in the bra you had your eye on if you are not up to going out after a couple of weeks, but you probably will.

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 13:10:36

Feeling much better thanks Tarlia, just in work, bored to death. Roll on 5pm

Shirehobbit Sun 18-Aug-13 13:14:36

Did you say your eyesight isn't good, Flyer? Can't remember if it was you who said it was, but if you do wear lenses/glasses, could that be the cause of the headaches? Pregnancy can cause eyesight prescription changes. Just a thought.

Umlauf Sun 18-Aug-13 13:18:35

From my bravissimo training, nursing bras should be purchased as near to the end as possible, making sure that you have hooks to tighten the bra not as your ribcage shrinks after the birth. Its not possible to predict the growth as each woman and pregnancy is different, but as a rule allow about a fists room in each cup for the early breastfeeding days for when your milk comes in. The breast pads also take up room so allow a cup size for them if you're planning on wearing them, otherwise they can show through the bra and look like enormous nipples. Bands should be fairly firm, so if they feel tight now that's good as you're not going to get wider around the back.. The best thing to do is only buy one for the first few days and the rest when your size settles.

Obviously I have no personal experience of this, as this is dc1! When I was in the uk I bought a 32j as it was the biggest cup size they did, and I'm wearing a 34g now, so it is much bigger. I'm terrified of mastitis and am going to be really careful with bras! The only one I think ill be able to wear is the Panache Sophie (I hate the Royce and the lovely Elle McPherson/bravado won't give me support)

tuckingfits Sun 18-Aug-13 15:24:05

Umlauf - at the risk of sounding like a Hot Milk sales person... I am currently in a 36G am a 32f/g when not pregnant/feeding. Last time around I wore the panache Sophie because it was the best I could find in terms of support,not particularly hideous etc. however,it didn't support me very well,the fabric by the drop cup clips tore & frayed quickly & I just wasn't that impressed. This time I have found hot milk bras,they go to big sizes,they are more supportive for me,they feel stronger & better quality & although I obviously haven't used them for feeding yet they aren't fraying or looking tired yet as the sophies were by this stage. They are also a bit cheaper than Sophie from www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk. Am sure they can be found cheaply elsewhere but that's where I got them from. I know they do international postage but didn't pay attention to rates... Might be worth a look just so that you don't feel you have to go with the Sophie ones. I know I didn't like the Royce ones & whatever the name of the other large cup panache feeding bra is,just looked awful on me...

Umlauf Sun 18-Aug-13 16:58:03

Thanks tucking I just looked and they are beautiful but when I put 32J in it just brought up the horrible beige Royce ones and the panache Sophie!!

I guess its my back to cup size ratio that is the problem, I'm clearly a booby freak!! Damn them! Maybe when/if they settle and get a bit smaller ill fit into the hot milk ones, I hope so because they are better value.

Umlauf Sun 18-Aug-13 17:00:10

Only £1 international delivery!! That's a really good site! Oh damn my boobs!!!

Sparkeleigh Sun 18-Aug-13 17:00:24

Woohoo! I'm just back from putting down the deposit on the pram grin I was so sure I was going for the Baby Jogger Versa but then we went to mothercare to look at cots and saw the Britax Affinity and loved it. It's quite bulky in the boot when it's folded with the seat on, but they'd not removed the label from an expired offer to get the carrycot free, so we got the lot for £408 grin

In case anybody isn't on the fb page and is interested in mothercare vouchers, this link has all of the ones available in the mothercare baby and me club. My phone won't let me paste it in the right place in this reply so I'll put it in the next one...

Sparkeleigh Sun 18-Aug-13 17:05:26

http://www.mothercarebabyandmeclub.com/vouchers/

If they didn't want people to use them they should have designed their website better... grin

Legally They won't give me a c-section date til I'm 34 weeks, I'm 31+3 now.

Flyer Are you absolutely sure you've been measured correctly because a pre pregnancy rib cage measurement of 32 is unusual in anyone under a size 12. I think I might just buy the bravado ones you've all been talking about. I'm quite saggy and need a lot of lift so they probably won't do very much for me but atleast they'll be comfy.

legallyblond Sun 18-Aug-13 17:27:53

For me (prob 34D or so right now, so not huge) the Bravado body silk ones are amazing and no mono boob smile

Haylebop12 Sun 18-Aug-13 17:38:55

I'm just dealing with the monoboob!

I think the uti the midwife predicted is here. Although there's no pain when going to the loo I am weeing a lot today and its getting rather annoying. sad

Another shift down today, just four to go. Thurs, sat, sun and Tuesday!

tuckingfits Sun 18-Aug-13 17:41:12

Oh no um sorry to have tantalised you & then have you left disappointed. Can't even suggest a way around that sad.

sparkeleigh what a great deal you got - well done!!

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 18:16:47

My eyesight has gone worse since I've become pregnant. I don't think it's what is causing my headaches. I was always quite headache prone pre pregnancy, especially around period time, I suspect it's hormone related.

Mon I was a 32c pre pregnancy clothes size 8, I'm now a clothes size 12 shock

Natalieand Sun 18-Aug-13 18:30:10

I no theoretically she's a nobody lol but Katie price had a baby boy today 8 weeks early which means she would have also had an October due date x

Haylebop12 Sun 18-Aug-13 18:46:14

Yep and he was 5lb 3! Big baby for that early!

Where were you measured flyer beccause at a size 12 I was a 32 back. At a size 8 28 seems more likely. A lot of stores still measure the outdated way by adding 4 inches I onto the rib cage measurement.
Try googling "the bra guru fitting guide" and measure yourself.

Evening,

34 weeks today!!! I am so ready for her to come though the crippling fatigue is back, anyone else??

flyer I too recommend the bra guru

Hope everyone has had a good weekend Ds is looking forward to school again tomorrow so that's worked well, hows DD mon has she settled in?

She was fine on Friday Falcon. I was so busy tabbing away to my sister I didn't even notice her go in when the bell rang. I just hope that going back tomorrow after having the weekend off doesn't set her back again.

Shirehobbit Sun 18-Aug-13 21:28:51

Whoa! I've just read that bra guru site shock - according to that, I've never been wearing the right size!!

Pinkforboys Sun 18-Aug-13 21:36:28

bridget thanks for the recommendation. Just added to my Ocado order...

I'm sitting here painting my toenails as I fear it won't be long before I can't reach them. Oh for a pedicure and full body massage....

I'm 31+2 now and feel like her ladyship's head has moved down into my pelvis, movement are definitely lower and less pronounced- would that be about right for 31 weeks?
My Mum's worried she'll come early as I've been clearing out cupboards all week (her idea of nesting).
x

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 21:48:00

Me neither shire grin I'm gonna go and get fitted this week, might try bravissimo.

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 21:54:56

In fact Boux Avenue seem to get better % on the fittings, so may try there. There is one in the Trafford Centre I think you are Manchester way shire?? I'm meeting my sister there on Tuesday evening so will pop in for a fitting! I'm shocked 34 years old and I'm wearing the wrong bra sizes all these years shock

I tried telling you all but would you listen?.... grin.
It'll change your life... Well your boobs anyway.

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 22:00:16

Omg MoN I know I just couldn't be told gringrin thanks for the tip. Have you been measured and if so where do you recommend?

Boux avenue still use the old add 4 inches method but if you try a bra on in the size you got from your own measurements they are ok at checking the fit for you. John Lewis and Debenhams are hit and miss. Run a mile if they bring a tale measure out. A good fitter never uses one.

Bravissimo probably the best and as I said sine fitters at Debenhams are good. I've just been measuring myself lately and try on at boux avenue and get them to check the fit.

I was wearing a 38 B for years because of ubbish fitters and their add 4 I ches nonsense and when the cups see ed to gape I thought I would try an A cup but that didn't fit right either so decided to go to Debenhans for a fitting and couldn't believe it when the fitter put me in a 32 E.

Flyer747 Sun 18-Aug-13 22:09:29

I will give bravissimo a whirl then and report back with my new and improved breast sizing. Thanks for the advice.

You're welcome. Even Desperate Dan noticed the difference when I came home wearing a bra in my new size. You won't believe the difference it makes

Shirehobbit Sun 18-Aug-13 22:22:31

I just wonder what back size I'll end up, post baby, once bump and ribs recede.
I'm still shock !

Thanks grin

JellyCurls Sun 18-Aug-13 22:28:52

I'll vouch for bra guru I was wearing an M&S sized 38 B that fitted nowhere and following the new way to measure I am now a 34G and result is look slimmer and more in proportion. Getting bit tight round ribs now but at 34 weeks I figure my bump will drop soon so ribs will recover a bit. Will get measured properly at about 38 weeks if can face a trip to Glasgow.

SeriousStuff Mon 19-Aug-13 02:50:55

Anyone still up?! This insomnia is killing me. Luckily I have the day off tomorrow but come Tuesday, uh-oh...

Tarlia Mon 19-Aug-13 04:33:49

Serious hope you managed to get to sleep in the end!!

5.30, I'm awake again! Urg! It seems the less sleep I get in the day, the less I can sleep at night..!?

Hope you lovelies are all fast asleep. Monday again, another weekend closer to D-day!

funkky Mon 19-Aug-13 07:19:45

Hope you ladies had a good weekend. Congrats to 34 pink lady for our first Oct. baby. I think we had the same due date of 25 sep? so this has really brought it home that we are nearly there.

Off for scan this morning at 34+5 cause I had anterior low lying placenta, also baby was breech at last MW appointment so been humping my preg ball and hoping for some good news today!

Has anyone had their hosp tours, had one last week and quite enlightening how basic the maternity/ delivery wards are, on the other hand it made me feel a bit relaxed that the rooms were not too complicated, just go in pop baby out and get out again......

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 07:31:28

U late September lot really don't have long to go! Especially if u end up with 37 weeks deliveries xxx

I have been up all night it feels that way anyway we've a terrible toothache. I can only hope they have appts today or I make breakdown in a big crying mess.

I haven't really given bras much thought tbh as I won't be breast feeding I will only need something suitable for a few days while my milk reduces after coming in, so ill probly go for an asda type sports bra or something along those lines

Hope u manage to get some sleep serious x

pinkbuttons Mon 19-Aug-13 08:00:56

Hope you managed to get some sleep serious and tarlia, I seem to be exactly the same, if I make myself not nap in the day I cant sleep at night. its like my brain is on overdrive.
Just had a look at the bra guru site and its amazing how wrong places get it. I always though m&s were reliable! Really hoping if I measure myself I'll br able to get rid of the back fat situation ive developed atmblush Ive always been a soze 8-10 and been measured as a band 34-36 but that doesnt sound right from what theyre saying.
Going to measure myself today, thankyou for enlightening me ladies!
Hope scan goes well funky and placenta and baby have bith moved. Enjoy seeing little one again
Oh no for your tooth ache natalie! Hope youre able to get an appt today. will keep my fingers crossed for you x
Anyone else with toddlers struggling to keep up? Im 33+2 and feeling guilty that DS is going to have a day just playing with his toys and colouring. After a busy weekend I just cant muster the energy to walk to the library or park etc. plus Im not sure my painful hips would allow that and sorting out the babies room. Hope everyone had a lovely weekend.

Warlin Mon 19-Aug-13 08:49:40

Ah, I miss a few days of MN and miss our first baby!! Massive congrats 34pink how scary but so glad little Josie is here safe and well flowers. Hope she doesn't have to stay too long in hospital. How exciting!!!!!!!! Wow, unbelievable!

Will grab a coffee and read back over the pages of gossip I've missed in a minute but just wanted to check in.

DH had a dinner date booked for Friday night and ds was staying with my parents. SO annoyed as I started feeling really strange on Friday and developed a V&D bug whilst out for dinner so we came home early and I spent most of the night awake feeling rubbish sad Was worried it was the onset of labour at one stage. Feel better now though...typical.

On the good news front, we picked up our bugaboo donkey yesterday and I really like it. It fits through the front and internal doors which I wasn't sure it would so I'm pleased about that and it seems to nice to push. Feel a bit anxious about having it there and no baby yet so it's in the spare room until needed!!! Makes it very real once the pram is sorted!!

pink I'm the same on the toddler front. I love ds to bits but he really exhausts me at times. I think my bump has dropped a bit as I noticed out with the dog that I wasn't as breathless as I have been. Fingers crossed baby has turned too.

I'm thinking of finishing up a week early in work as I really can't face it any longer. That would mean finishing the end of August.

Anyway sorry for the me me post, will be back later

roofio87 Mon 19-Aug-13 09:03:22

I'm definitely going to try bravissimo for measuring and getting some nursing bras. after all this talk im sure im probably wearing the wrong size too!!

our new bed just got delivered! ! can't wait till dp puts it together. delivery driver was hilarious. asked him if he would put it upstairs he said he would seeing as I am 'about to pop' but anyone else he would tell to 'do one!' haha, defo some advatages of being pregnant! !

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 19-Aug-13 09:13:57

Me! I'm struggling with a toddler well he doesn't toddle yet, crawls, but he was up all night with his teeth and I'm shattered. We have our first settling in session at nursery today, can't believe he's nearly one!
Am going to try the bra guru but am now worried the bras I ordered are going to be totally wrong............

When are people getting fitted for nursing bras? I was thinking about doing it at 34 weeks but not sure if that is too early?

roofio87 Mon 19-Aug-13 09:31:05

I'd heard 38 weeks is best as bump is likely to have dropped and so rib cage is a bit more back to normal size. That's what I'm going to do, but some might feel that's leaving it a bit late!! I know that was my sisters plan with dc2 but she never made it to 38 weeks so was stuck with no bras after the birth!!

GTbaby Mon 19-Aug-13 09:53:26

Pink and shooting I'm the same with my 10month old crawler. He learnt to crawl last week and has now become very hard work. He is also going through a clingy stage it seems. Which is made worse by the fact he can now crawl over to me and will pull at my dress/trousers struggle to get up until I pick him up.

I do feel bad as I don't take him out as much as I would have has a not been preg. With morning sickness n now SPD we spend most our time at home hmm.

Are you putting/keeping your toddlers into nursery. Unfortunately with another year on mat pay means ill have both DC full time. My mum may be able to have DS a few days a week so I can give bump more attention which will be good.

Just had my WC injection. Gosh it hurt! Nurse did it to high I think where my arm isn't as fleshy.

Bra I got fitted at 37weeks last time. Which I think was a general recommendation. If your going to buy and use the bra now and your fitted with a smaller chest. Buy those extender hook things so you can use the bra now and after birth. Also it took a while for my ribs to contract back to normal size.

Ok I'm off to watch the rest of wright stuff lol
Enjoy your monday

Thanks roofio I was only planning to do it a bit early as I go back to work after the summer holidays on the 4th but don't finish for my maternity leave until about 5 days before they are apparently going to try a sweep at 39 weeks! So thought I'd make it the last thing I do before going back to work.

I'll give shop a ring and see what they say too but I wondered if it might be too early smile

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 10:05:25

Just an update in my flea situation to those that offered advice. After a little research we discovered that the council offer a 'pest control' sounds a bit extreme service for £32.50 (we would have paid near in £20 for Nother shop brought house hold spray anywy) so decided to opt for that and brought some front line drops for the cat and the plus side to this is I won't have to move all the furniture out the way as 1. It isn't required apparently 2. Its in Wednesday (dh's day off so he can do any lugging about) .

Also managed too get a dentist appt for 12.45 yippee

Off too argos today too buy a little storage type thing I've seen to keep nappies etc in in the living room and to buy a giant sized indoor airer as my washing amount is about to dramatically increase.

As for toddlers. Dd is a bit hit and miss ATM, she usually does 15 hours a week at pre school but as its the holidays she's home full time ATM but I've managed to get out with friends most days although tbh she's happier at home doing noting her lack of iron makes her so tired. Add to that the tantrum she has at getting dressed time each day as its not summer dress weather and she wants to look 'beautiful'

GT if your ds is 10M does that mean he will be turning 1 Around your due date?

I've just discovered our dog has fleas Natalie. We treat him regularly with the drops you put behind the neck but I noticed one jumping across my phone screen yesterday and have noticed him scratching a lot.
Also he seems to constantly smell lately despite been washed every week. Anyone any ideas on what might be causing it?

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 10:16:58

MoN apparently its the heat we've had recently? According to the pets at home advisor anyway lol. The cat only got them because I accidentally used the wrong flea treatment about 8 weeks ago and now were having a nightmare getting rid of them. I haven't actually seen any fleas in the house but I have had a few bites and the cat is scratching like mad the cat is white so if u look into her fur u can see the horrible flea droppings (bleurgh) so now u also have to delightfull task of de fleaing your house :-( which is the worst bit if u ask me!

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 10:18:18

Also MoN if u are flea treating the dog and washing him weekly would that not be washing off the flea treatment? As the flea lady I spoke too said the drops work by spreading through the animals coat and then when the flea lands on it cat to bite the treatment poisons said flea x

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 10:20:20

Have you looked in your dog's ears, MoN - ear infections can produce some pretty awful smells.

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 10:21:59

I feel like someone has taken my batteries out today! Listless and contemplating a nap already shock blush

Quick hello, I will catch up properly later. I am back from France and celebrated my first wedding anniversary yesterday which was lovely. DH is back to work today sad

Going to visit my best friend now who just had an early miscarriage. Hopefully my big pregnant bump won't rub it in. Feeling very lucky that our little bean has stayed put so far.

pinkbuttons Mon 19-Aug-13 10:46:28

Glad you had a lovely time away orange and Congratulations on your anniversary, hope your able to comfort your friend am sure she will be grateful your there for her.

Glad to here Im not the only one warlin, shooting and GT This morning I have tried playing dominos and snap cards with him just to do something sitting down, both lasted approximately 2 minutes... but really I think hes quite happy playing by himself doing his 2yr old thing. Were just trying to keep weekends busy so he has some fun before baby arrives.
GT we took DS out of nursery when we moved a couple of months ago, and were planning on keeping him home although hell get free nursery hrs from April next yr. Now thinking we might pay for him to go from January just for a couple of mornings a week so I get some time with baby but will see what funds can afford.
Glad flea situation seems more copable natalie and the dentist can see you!
shire DS has just begged me to go down for his nap early literally said "please mummy bed" so Ive just climbed into bed too and am going to have a cheeky nap after being awake 4 hrs blush Its safe to say Im making the most of it while I can.

GTbaby Mon 19-Aug-13 10:47:52

Nat ds is 1 on 16th oct. I'm due 30th sep. so I think even if I'm over due ill have the baby before his 1st baby. Although I think I'll be induced at 38weeks so will end up with 3/4 week gap.

Sry no advice to pet owners. Although you are giving me another reason to not get a pet!

I must do that Shite . I remember ready g a while ago that spaniels are prone to ear infections.

I use the treat.ent on bath day Natalie so the treat ent still has a week to work and if I'm honest probably more lately as I keep hanging on Hoping Dp will bath him .

Haylebop12 Mon 19-Aug-13 10:51:03

Crappy sleep here too. We're at mils so dd and I are on an air bed. She's been up since 6am. I want to curl up and sleep. Dh is off to a funeral later so will definitely be putting the tv on for her and relaxing.

She starts school 9th September so leaving some preparations until then when I should technically have nothing to do between 9 and 3!

I think I'll get measured at 36/37 for nursing bras since dd arrived at 37+5!

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 10:58:42

sounds like you had a lovely break orange and congrats on your 1st anniversary! sorry about your friend...

good luck with your scan funkky. I'm very anxious to hear your results as also have a low anterior placenta and a scan booked for next week... they say most of them move up as your uterus grows but I feel very nervous about it.

warlin move it forward by a week. I've moved mine forward by two weeks as also couldn't face being at work until end of September. This one week will mean nothing in the scheme of life but will make you feel so much better now!

pink I'm sure your DS won't be damaged by a day of TV, colouring and playing with his toys. Don't feel guilty. We can't be super mums all the time. I struggle with my five year old so don't know how you do it all ladies with toddlers... must be so much tougher.

natalie good luck with your dentist appointment, the last thing you need right now!

and flyer, shire and others who feel rough today - brew for you

Also sorry to hear some of you have really opinionated NCT ladies. Mine was lovely, wasn't judgemental at all and always told us that different things work for everyone and we need to be flexible as things rarely go 100% according to plan.

I also didn't have a chance to weigh in re: pethidine yesterday. I had one shot 5 hours before giving birth and it worked for me. I was induced so in a lot of pain and didn't want an epidural - pethidine was a good alternative for me. I asked for a small dose and it was hours before I actually gave birth so DS wasn't drowsy or affected at all. I believe your reaction to pethidine depends on your individual tolerance and how you react to alcohol is a good indication (this is what our NCT lady said). I can drink a lot before I feel even slightly drunk so pethidine didn't knock me out at all. It just made me pleasantly tipsy - it didn't take the pain away at all, just made me care less about it for an hour or so. It was a relatively short but helpful (sort of) respite from relentless pain (you don't really have any breaks between contractions when induced). So don't discard it and see how it goes. Think about your alcohol tolerance and I know the timing is very important as well

textbook Mon 19-Aug-13 11:11:35

Just seen another consultant and have a definitive diagnosis of placenta praevia grade II hmm

Section date being moved forward a week (so will be w/c 23rd Sep) and I'm to keep my phone on me at all times in case of sudden bleeding. Can't go too far from home either, and need to keep hospital bag and notes on me. Section will be carried out by a consultant also as increased risk of heavy bleeding during the op.

I have another scan next Monday to check placenta, and am seeing the consultants again in 2 weeks. Fun and games - but I definitely feel like I'm being looked after.

Hope everyone else has a slightly better day!

Warlin Mon 19-Aug-13 11:14:25

GT that sounds tough. I can't stay in the house with ds as he drives me nuts! He gets bored and he is still crawling and I spend the whole time chasing after him as he crawls at lightening speed to tip the dog's water bowl over. I find it much easier even to go to soft play or somewhere where he can't wreck the place.
He currently does 2 days a week in nursery and 2 days with my parents. I was planning to drop him to 1 day in nursery to save money but then I'm not guaranteed to get the same day back again and my mum can only do 2 set days so I have decided to keep the 2 days. I don't have to send him all the time I suppose but I reckon I will be very glad of the peace smile Plus he loves it anyway.

clapham you are so right. A week is nothing but seems so much more bearable than the thought of another 3 weeks. That will mean finishing next Thur and since Monday is a bank holiday and I have booked next Wed off as I have no childcare, I will only have 5 more days of work...yippee. Should I tell them sooner or wait until next week and say I can't do much more. I would much rather slip away than make a big deal out of it.

shire my batteries are dead today too...I have really bad heartburn too which isn't helping...ahh not long to go now ladies........

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 11:28:24

I tried recharging my batteries with cake and now feel stuffed blush.

I have been calling the Drs surgery and community midwives to try and find out when they want to see me, as I have missed the 31 week app. Despite leaving messages on the community midwives answer machine last week, as directed, where we are reassured we will be contacted within 24 hours, I have heard nothing.

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 11:28:36

oh no textbook... what does "grade II" mean? And how many weeks are you now? At least you are looked after xx

do it warlin! You know best when to tell them. I would probably tell them this week so you can relax and know it's done. Otherwise you will be going over and over it again in your head hundreds of times and stressing about it (at least this is what I know I would do! :-)

Just had 31 week midwife appointment although I'm 31+5. Bubs heart good and still moving well, apparently he'd down which is good but midwife was surprised by how bump is all baby and reckons I'm looking at a 9lb er. Was kinda hoping that she'd be smaller as had emcs on ds because he was big, had a big head and got stuck. Was really hoping to not have a repeat performance this time as had rubbish recovery last time and this time also have ds who is 3 to run around after.

Anyone else meant to be having a vbac? Or had a vbac with big baby? I'm usually only a size 8/10 and obviously must produce big babies! Not sure whether to give it A go or just go for elc which was an option but didn't want the horrendous recovery now confused.com sad

As for fleas - the warm weather and long grass really play a massive part in the problem and once they are in the house it is a nightmare to get rid. We had a can of spray from the vets - it was about £30 a can but it did kill them and other than having to leave the house for bout 3 hours after spraying and then continuously hoovering for days it worked!

Hope everyone manages to get rid of the fleas and then enjoy brew and cake

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 19-Aug-13 11:52:04

gt my ds went through a super clingy phase once he'd started to crawl. It didnt last long though. His sleeping also went terribly wrong and he was to be found at all hours of the night crawling round his cot. Settled down after a few weeks only to be interrupted by more teeth.
We are going to put ds into nursery for 2 days a week for as long as we can afford it will really help me bond with the newborn I think and be good for ds as he is very attached to me so think he needs some more people in his life!!!

SeriousStuff Mon 19-Aug-13 11:59:34

Tarlia and Pink it was around 4.30am in the end...I could hear birds singing!

Spent the morning putting baby stuff in the nursery, finally. No I'm ready for another nap...it's a vicious circle.

Shire and Blues I'd love some cake now.

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 19-Aug-13 12:14:12

bluesnow I'm having a vbac but consultant has said he will only allow of baby isn't too large as I'm petite too. I hate the idea of anther cs so am really hoping my vbac is successful

Sparkeleigh Mon 19-Aug-13 12:23:21

tuckingfits thanks! grin I was so chuffed!

Warlin I'd go for it if you can. The two days I'm getting from Christmas have made such a difference for me. You'll know best how they'll react to choose your method of telling them though!

orange congrats on your anniversary! flowers Sorry to hear about your friend though, it's very sad.

textbook they really sound like they're looking after you well, it's good to know you'll have a consultant at the birth too.

Shirehobbit - could you just ring a book an appointment for this week with the midwife without waiting for an answer on when they want to see you? They sound a bit useless...

I think I'm probably one of the least organised people on the thread, but does anyone have any advice on cotbeds vs cots? I'm leaning towards a cotbed but my mum has told me that there's no point because if I have another baby before the first has grown out of it, I'll have to buy another anyway. I don't know which to go for confused

funkky Mon 19-Aug-13 12:35:28

clapham good news! Low lying placenta is now further up and out of the way... MW had been hinting that as I had no bleeding so far, its most likely to have moved so hope that allays your fears a bit.
Baby also head down but even at 34 weeks, this can still change unless he is engaged, only MW can confirm if baby is engaged so will keep humping ball to make sure.
Sorry to hear text, but good to know you are being looked after, they do take placenta praeveria seriously. What does grade 2 mean?

Warlin Mon 19-Aug-13 12:38:13

Spark we got a cotbed last time and I've gone for another one this time. They are a good bit bigger than a cot so will convert into a bed. I had planned to hand cotbed down to second child but with the close age gap we decided to jsut get a second. There isn't much difference in price so at least you have the option rather than having to go and buy a toddler bed at an early stage.

My boss is on annual leave until next Tue (this is the one who asked for a business case for finishing at 37 weeks). I think I'll just submit a leave request to finish next Thur and see what happens. She prob wont see it until the Tue but I'm not sure what they can really say. I've left my diary clear for Sept and am trying to hand things over (despite there being nobody identified for my role). Will just do it and get it over with...arghh

I have the mw tomorrow for my 34 week apt. Last time I went was at 28 weeks and they told me I was measuring small and to come back in 2 weeks. I never did as a) there were no apts and b) we had the private scan which showed all is ok. IMO they are really bad at following up though and it shouldn't always be left to us to arrange everything. What if I hadn't been for the scan and hadn't been back and the baby had been small for some reason? There just seem to be very few apts throughout the months..if this was my first pregnancy or if we hadn't had a few extra scans I would be really panicked. Don't think they'd care if you never went in to see them. Need to ask about Strep B as nobody has mentioned this to me. shire your experience confirms this.

orange congrats on the anniversary and sorry about your friend. Will be hard for her to see your bump I'm sure.

Had 34 week appointment today and got my referral to the birth centre, yay. Baby is head down and back out, so in a nice position - just hope she stays there now. Also measuring just under 6 weeks, but the midwife and I are not concerned - DS was a chunky 8lbs 6, so am expecting another on the larger side.

I'm very much struggling with the toddler - he is just a nightmare if I don't get him out of the house and tire him out, but too much walking keeps bringing on painful braxton hicks and bad back - lord only knows how I will manage once I start mat leave next week.

Sorry to hear about your PP textbook - but at least you are well informed and can plan around.

36 weeks - 6 week would be a concern

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 12:45:12

There are no available appointments Sparkleigh this week or next (due to bank holiday) which is why I'm chasing.
Totally agree Warlin - how many women must just fall through the net? This is my first, I'm now 32 weeks, won't be seen til 34 and haven't been seen since 28. I've measured big since 20 weeks, but no one seems to be bothered. I've never seen the same mw more than once.
So much for bp/urine monitoring too.
Feel a bit out on a limb tbh.

Pinkforboys Mon 19-Aug-13 13:01:45

I'll echo clapham's sentiments and say I really admire those of you with toddlers. DS is 6 and thankfully happy to watch endless tv play lego/draw/paint happily whilst I take things lightly. That said he did have a whole week of soccer school last week that truly wore him out. But a toddler is more like having a dog- they usually need a daily walk. Do you have a nearby playground where you can sit on a bench whilst they run riot?

Orange happy first anniversary! A very special one, especially with bump on the way. I hope things go well with your friend- always a mixed emotion post mc- you are both a reminder but also a symbol of hope.

textbook that all sounds so scary, but also sounds like you've got good consultants. another e.g. that we're really lucky to live in the time/world that we do. Take things easy x

This lack of mw appts is really worrying. I'm sure I was seen a lot more 6 years ago. I last saw mine at 27w and next appt is 34w. I also remember routinely having 5-7vials of blood taken on every visit to UCH, and this time I've had about 1 bt. Anyone else having different experience?

ps- all this talk about fleas is making me scratch...wink

textbook Mon 19-Aug-13 13:20:05

clapham and funkky - grade II praevia refers to how close the placenta is to the OS (cervix opening). From what I understand, grade I means it's close, grade II touching, grade III partially covering and grade IV completely covering. Obvs grade IV is the most serious in terms of potential problems. One silver lining is that placenta is posterior, so this is much safer with regards to the section as they won't need to cut it to get to baby. I feel like an expert on PP already!

Really hoping not to have a bleed, have (touch wood) had nothing so far and am 33+3. I'm going to use this as an excuse to take things as easy as possible after this week. Only 4 more days at work until Mat leave grin

xuntitledx Mon 19-Aug-13 13:39:45

textbook - not sure if this will be helpful or scare you (if it's the latter, apologies in advance!)... my sister had PP and ended up having quite a serious bleed at 34 weeks followed by an emergency C-Section and blood transfusions however my niece absolutely thrived and was only in SCBU for a few weeks.

One year on, my niece is still absolutely thriving and no issues with being delivered early.

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 13:49:02

Oh gosh DS is driving me insane. He's in a 'no' phase and I just haven't got the strength or mobility to manhandle move him/dress him/change his nappy/brush his teeth. I'm shouting lots which is just horrible for us both. I'm a bit at the end of my tether and am wondering what the hell I've done getting pregnant sad

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 14:00:41

textbook fingers crossed for you and good it's at least posterior. And lucky you with only 4 more days to your ML!

funkky yay! Great news on both fronts. You can relax now. And yes re: them not necessarily staying in place. My little bugger was head down last week but yesterday I felt again that he went sideways... now I think he is head down again but not 100% sure. I wish he just stayed there... I'm 30+6 and have had no bleeding so far - hope it's good news then although textbook also hasn't had any... I guess I will just have to wait until next Tuesday to know...

good news bowlfull!

pinkforboys I agree, I had many more appointments last time I was pregnant, 5 years ago. I think I had them every 4 weeks from 16 weeks onwards and then every 2 weeks after 32 weeks, finally every week after 36 weeks. I'm pretty sure...

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 14:01:27

pseudo it will be worth it!!

pseudo, this may be very unhelpful and induce a 'fuck off' type response but I am finding the more impatient and shouty I am with DS at the moment, the worse he is. If I take some time to gather myself and calm down we are getting on much better. Not always easy though when you are knackered and in pain I know. cake? or wine?

roofio87 Mon 19-Aug-13 14:13:40

I seem to be having lots of appointments. this is my first and so far seen mw at 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 28 and 32 weeks. apps will be every 2 weeks from now, although next one not till 36 weeks as im going away and everything is going so well so mw felt there was no need. I guess it depends on pregnancy and area!!

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 14:20:33

cake please! I think I'm being as measured and balanced as possible but when he has flipped over mid nappy change for the millionth time for example a small shout may escape from my mouth sad

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 14:21:53

Roofio - that's close to the schedule I'm meant to be on, as are most first timers according to the NHS website. But the problem is appointment availability, here.
Clearly the service is totally over-stretched.

I'n probably just projecting my own shouty parenting smile - I've had to really take myself in hand a few times over the last few months when I've realised I've just defaulted to shouting.

I have just sent out my company wide email about maternity cover grin - 4 days left, and about 4 hours of work to complete in that time - roll on Friday.....

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 19-Aug-13 14:48:01

Oh textbook fingers firmly crossed for you - glad you are being closely monitored and it's been detected.

Another one feeling guilty here - I'm doing my best to keep DD entertained but know I am relying far too much on the iPad and i'd be doing more activities with her if I wasn't pregnant. We are currently at the park, but it totally wore me out getting here and I'm plonked on a bench with ghastly heartburn. Getting it all times of day now, not just evenings.

I totally agree with Clapham and Pink and really admire those of you with toddlers to manage.

Orange congrats on your anniversary. I hope the visit to your friend goes ok - a hard situation.

I am finding relations with one of my friends difficult. She has one child the same age and we both struggled with the decision as to whether or not to try for a second. As far as I know, she has decided against but is not totally "at peace" with it yet.

Initially she seemed really pleased for me, but as my bump has grown a definite awkwardness has developed between us. I try not to talk about my pregnancy but she keeps raising it and - I'm sure she's not trying to be mean - making lots of negative comments (how DD won't react well to the baby, how difficult life will be etc)

I do understand how hard it maybe for her to see me pregnant (after my mc I couldn't bring myself to congratulate one of my neighbours and used to cross the road to avoid her and her newborn) I just feel sad about it.

I felt sidelined when my NCT & toddler group friends went
on to have a second child and I didn't. Now it feels another friendship is suffering but be because I am pregnant.

Haylebop12 Mon 19-Aug-13 14:54:49

You definitely see mw less in second pregnancy. I saw a sheet of paper on the mws desk on Friday which had a lost of appts for first/second baby. Every 4 weeks from 16 weeks with number 1, then every two weeks from 32. Mine have been 8,15,25,31,36,38,40,42. It does say 34 in my green book also but she's not seeing me on that one. Not too worried as things are going relatively smoothly. However, no mention of WC jab yet and i forgot to bring it up. May just call her about it tbh. Not rung her at all yet.

Sorry to hear those will little ones are struggling. Dd (4.6) is being ok but being out of school isn't coping with the lack of routine and keeping her entertained is getting hard work!

sisteroutlaw Mon 19-Aug-13 14:56:00

I've been increasingly shouty badger and jelly with DS1. Am trying so hard to be fair, firm and consistent with a view to continuing it when DS2 comes... but am too often exploding with rage.

I dangle the carrot of 3 TV programmes and 3 stories before bed, and him losing one each time he resists getting dressed, stalls/stops when we're off somewhere. Problem is when I've finally said, "That's it! NO programmes later!", I'm screwed too!

DOUBLE BUGGIES know of one that could accommodate a 16kg toddler who still favours a nap and a newborn? Would be looking 2nd hand, no doubt. Fear the max is 15kg but I've got a big old post-lunch sleepy-sleeper. Tis tricky.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 19-Aug-13 14:57:03

Oh MoN - very cute little girl at the park called Eliana* - never heard it in rl before. Hope Linah went into school ok this morning.

Pseudo - you have my sympathies - uncooperative nappy changers are a nightmare especially when you are at a physically disadvantage.

People jeep screwing their noses up when I tell them the name we've chosen Bridget. EvUS the second my best friend said "What is it with all these new fangled names". She really wanted me to call her Murren because that was the name of one of her aunts and she'd always liked it.

Linah went into school happy this morning thankfully but I rushed to the loo just before going to collect her and noticed some blood. Further investigation revealed it was coming from my urethra so I took a urine sample to the nurse who has sent it away for analysis.
Ive had uti symptoms for months now but the dipstick test keeps coming back clear. This is the second time I've had blood from ny urethra this pregnancy.

Around 2 and a half years ago I had similar at Lyons but no infection but you. examining myself noticed what looked like a polyp at the urethral opening and was referred to a urologist but I missed the appointment and the symptoms settled down so I never made another one so don't know if it's just pregnancy making it flare up again.

Bloody auto correct made a mess of that post but I think you get the jist.

Pinkforboys Mon 19-Aug-13 15:48:11

Bridget I feel for you. It's really hard when you want to get pg and others are doing it around you, and equally hard when you go on to get pg and not others that you've commiserated/bonded with.
I've got a couple of really lovely friends who've been amazingly supportive as I've tried for no.2, bonding over having just 1 child when so many others have dropped DC2 & 3, and now I feel a little awkward that we've finally succeeded in being pg when they can't for various complicated reasons. It's usually me proffering the negative side of being pg tho!
Hopefully your friend will be much easier on you when your bubba arrives and she'll be won over by him/her and stop being an idiot.

You've all guilted me into some activity time with DS- he's armed with cotton buds and paint and doing some 'pointillism' (!) whilst I've got leg up to ease the varicose veins [sigh]

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 15:59:04

It sounds really sad and unfair bridget but it looks like her problem and, hard as it is, you can't fix her problem... my guess is that she may have problems in her relationship that stop her from having another child and she may be really hurting because of it. Or she may have been unable to get pregnant again. And some people can deal with their own pain only through negativity and hurting others. I remember feeling really broody when DS was 18 months but my relationship wasn't right and I felt that I couldn't have another one. I remember seeing all my NCT and other friends getting pregnant again and it hurt like hell. I was depressed for at least 6 months just because I felt I couldn't have another baby and I would just go home and cry all evening. I may be totally wrong of course as there are some plain nasty and petty people out there too. But, in general, I find that this kind of weird behaviour often comes from some hidden pain or some complex. Try to give her some space and time and it may all change. Time really heals a lot! But I understand how upsetting it must be. x

MoN hope it's nothing serious...

I know how you're feeling Bridget. One of my good friends cut contact with me after I got pregnant with Linah. She was desperate for a second child but had discovered her fallopian tubes were blocked.
I've seen her once since Linah was born and only because I bumped into her in the supermarket. She promised to stay in touch and I know she goes for a massage every week across the road from my house but she never pops in.

monkeytree Mon 19-Aug-13 16:15:04

Rubbish night on the sleep front last night so I commiserate with all those who did not sleep well either. It appears I must have slept awkwardly(propped up on pillows) and woke up at 2.30 am rolling about in pain with my left neck and shoulder. Could not get a physio appointment today so dh has been having a go at rubbing my shoulder blade and neck. Finally burst into tears with frustration of it all. DH says I'm like a bear with a sore head which is an accurate description today.

Bridget. Perhaps your friend has some issues she has not resolved with having just one child. I vowed for a long time that I would just have dd and then when 5 years later I decided to try for dc2 I discovered that I have low ovarian reserve and hence problems conceiving. Luckily now 30+2 days with dd2 but I was told I 18 months ago it was highly unlikely I would be having a second child. Do you know for sure that your friend isn't having issues? I have a friend who experienced a miscarriage when she was trying for dc3 and then did not try again. She was very supportive with my infertility issues but things have not been the same since I found out I was pregnant so sympathies. Likewise when I was experiencing infertility I did everything to avoid pregnant ladies etc - not easy when you have a dd already!

Can totally relate to the guilt issues of entertaining dc(s). I have felt very guilty about dd (age 7) these summer hols and not doing quite as much and relying on others - ballet workshops etc. Total lack of grandparent support etc. Also often grumpy and tired and concerned it will effect her. I kind of feel that I am winging it a bit. Really feel for those with toddlers don't know where I would find the energy. It's easier said than done but please don't be too hard on yourselves, you're attempting an extremely difficult job at the moment.

Warlin Mon 19-Aug-13 16:18:26

Oh bridget that sounds so hard re your friend. Hopefully she will come round once the baby is here. I had a friend for years and she was struggling to conceive/ having IVF etc while I was on clomid but once I got pregnant she couldn't deal with it. She has come off fb and I have text her about getting a walk with the dogs (I wouldn't even mention babies) but she doesn't want to. I haven't seen her since before ds was born. It's so sad sad yet I understand how hard it must be if you're grieving.

MoN def get checked out. Is it painful to go to the toilet? Hope it settles down again.

pseudo very familiar with the escape attempts mid nappy change. It really takes 2 of us to change a nappy at the minute. We had our first real tantrum yesterday at the shops when ds refused to go in buggy (backarching etc) than wanted down to crawl through the shopping centre and went mad when I wouldn't let him..purple face, almost choking screaming fit blush. It's so exhausting! He is normally good but it getting molars through which must be hurting.

Everything crossed for you textbook

monkeytree Mon 19-Aug-13 16:25:09

Warlin You hit the nail on the head when you say people grieve about infertility. I definitely went through a grieving process as time to have dc2 was not on my side.

chickieno1 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:25:52

I'm also in the challenging toddler/preschooler camp! Ds will be 3 next week (can't believe it's gone so fast). Woke up at 540 this morning to go to the loo and tired and grumpy all morning. Refused to put on any clothes and wanted to go out in his underwear! Took off his clothes after I put them on and I'm afraid I shouted at him sad I really try hard not to shout at him esp when I know he's tired. He also has a bit of a runny nose so isn't too happy. I'm also feeling emotional as his little world is about to change and I feel bad for him sad

textbook fingers crossed everything works out ok and you make it to your CS date without any excitement. Ae you on mat leave already? Try and take things easy. And to clapham (and I think orange) hope your placentas move up at your scans!

shire could you ring your gp and at least get your blood pressure and urine checked? They'll also be able to check foetal hb?? If you can't get an appt with mw soon you should be checked!

Congrats on your anniversary orange! Glad you had a good holiday and hope your friend is ok.

bridget it can be really difficult with pregnancy and the people around you. Just see how things go, she might have to take her own time coming to terms with your pregnancy.

sister how old is your dc? We re still not sure about double buggy as ds will often fall asleep in buggy after lunch if we're out? I know he's big but we don't have a car and I walk everywhere and don't want to be stuck indoors. He still needs a nap though and won't sleep at home in bed. Maybe I should encourage him to drop nap now before dc2 arrives??

mon hope everything ok.

Mega post!! And I ve still forgotten stuff

To everyone else cake and flowers

Yes Warlin. I'm bracing myself every time I go. It startedbefore I got pregnant and has got progressively worse but uti tests keep coming back negative.

roofio87 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:48:52

This whole thing does definitely change things. I'm the first of any of my friends to have a baby and most of my closest friends are still single so while they've been great our lives are heading in very different directions.

I've suddenly gotten obsessed with sorting out my and dp's wedding!! haha. we got engaged in March and thinking about getting married next winter so there is time to get organised but I'm suddenly feeling the need to get things booked. I think its a weird form of nesting haha!!!

Pinkforboys Mon 19-Aug-13 17:09:36

Congratulations roofio- so exciting to be planning a wedding. best day of your life, especially with your little one toddling down the aisle with you! x

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 19-Aug-13 17:35:33

Arrggghh - wrote out a long post only for mumsnet to go offline when I tried to post it.

Just wanted to say thank you for everyone's wise words - I shall redouble my efforts to be sensitive to her situation (it is complicated: health, finances and relationship stuff).

MoN - I hope the lab result gives you some answers, it must have been a horrible panic filled moment when you saw blood.

Roofio - I think it's really sensible to try and get as much planned as possible now. It'll be easy for weeks and months to fly by once baby is here.

I'd love DP to propose but I know in his heart he wants a big 'do' and there is always something else more pressing we need to spend the money on.

shootingstars glad I'm not the only one although consultant said I'd be monitored more closely this time and that I can opt for a cs at any point I really didn't want another one. I'm almost hoping for slightly early labour as then she might not be so big but have horrible feeling after today that she is going to be like her brother and be later rather than early and big and it'll all end in emcs like last time sad

Here's hoping for feeling more positive morra and that I can kinda put it behind me for a while. On the upside I'm seeing mw again in 2 weeks so guess ill know then if she is still growing at a rate of knots!

I really hope that the vbac is successful for both of us shooting smile

mon hope it eases and you manage to get it sorted soon wine

And to everyone else wine and or cake to keep you all going for the evening and fx for a good nights sleep for all grin

So exciting roofio. Me and Desperate Dan got engaged at Christmas but I think we'll need to see how things are with Eliana's health when she's born before we think about wedding plans.
I don't want a particularly big wedding it I would like it to be better than my last one that was booked and arranged in 2 weeks.

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 17:44:27

Weddings don't have to cost the earth to be special (and still have all the trimmings) - ours cost well under £2000.
Instead of presents, friends helped create the day; one made the cake, another did the flowers, another did the table centres, a friend's band did the music etc, etc...
It made it a really special.
But I know that wouldn't work for everyone smile

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 17:55:25

pseudo I said those exact words to dh last night ''what the hell have we done having another one' dd is almost 3 and despite being a little argumentative tearful Madame ATM she is easier to pop in the car to the shops with and easy at the park and entertains herself alot compared to a baby! Hope you r feeling better this evening xx

I've had quite a few midwife appts too. At weeks 5,13,18,22,26,28,31,32 and every 2 weeks from now until birth as well as 3 consultant appts xx

Will catch up with everything else when dd is nicely tucked up and I can do it in peace lol

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 19-Aug-13 18:55:51

pseudo it will be worth it, it really will. Not to sound smug but to make you want another ds and I have had the most wonderful day. He has been a true delight in every way. Just a normal mundane Monday really but he has been such a delightful baby I just feel blessed. Wish I could bottle days like this and open it when we're struggling! Expect he will be horrendous tomorrow!
Fingers crossed for us bluesnow
I have another scan next week to check growth and then one at 38 weeks and one at 40 weeks too.

Thanks for the congratulations everyone. My friend is ok and I think was glad not to be alone as her DH went back to work today after their holiday. He is of the opinion that it wasn't a real baby yet which doesn't really help her.

Congrats roofio. Like shire, my sisters wedding cost around £1000 and everyone did something for the wedding as a present, I made the cake, did the food and had two similar ball gowns to use as bridesmaid dresses, grandparents hired the hall for reception, in las. Bought the. Rings, mum bought the dress etc. They had my niece on the way and didn't want to spend much.

MoN did they say how long you can expect to wait for results? Hope all is ok.

Blues do they suggest vbac or c section or do they just leave up to you?

Thanks chickien - good memory! Yes I have a growth scan for. Low placenta next week too. Hoping it has moved. I haven't had any bleeding so it is nice to hear that that is a good sign. Take it easy textbook, no lifting or straining. I hope things continue to be ok.

Natalie I am worried about fleas on the breastfeeding chair I bought from ebay now. The lady had cats who clearly sat in it as it had lots of hairs. I have hoovered it and will wash the covers but all this talk of fleas has got me itching too!

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 19:29:00

Thanks everyone, toothbrushing has been good tonight so I praised him lots and lots (my inner dog trainer comes out....!) and it's DP's turn to put him to bed thank goodness grin
I know that lots of you understand so thank you flowers and I also feel so bad that his whole little world will change very soon sad

MoN I'm sorry to hear you may have a uti and hope they get back to you soon.

Sorry about your placenta textbook and I hope that the rest of the low placenta gang will have better news.

I've had more appointments with this pregnancy than with my first - however only 2 of these have been with a midwife! Gotta love consultant care and extra scans eh?

I've got my GTT this Friday, and another scan. These who have had the GTT have you all eaten right up until midnight, or just had a late dinner?

orange they've left it up to me so we opted for vbac rather than recovery from cs. But apparently going to monitor me more closely this time.

shooting I haven't had any scans apart from normal 12 and 20 week ones. Should I/can i be asking for one?

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 19:47:20

Congrats in your first anniversary orange xx

If u wash the covers in as warm as wash as u can without it shrinking it should be fine. X

Good luck to all those having scans checking on placenta positions, I guess I should be great full for having a boring anterior placenta even if it does effect feeling baby's
movements sometimes x

I admire those that managed too get hitched on a small budget dh and I's wedding cost approx £9,000 but we only paid about £3,000 of that our selves the rest was done cos wedding presents from parents sisters etc but when we started planning it as had hoped to spend as little as possible its so easy too get carried away though isnt it?

Dentist was half a success half not, can't find anything wrongn with my teeth that except a wisdom tooth pushing through at the back (which isn't the tooth that's hurting) but he thinks it must be pushing them forwards making my other teeth hurt but as it would need me putting to sleep to remove it he can't do anything until the baby is born, he couldn't find any sign of infection of anything but then gave me a prescription for anti biotics which to me seems rediculous taking them if he couldn't even see any infections? Silly man!

32 weeks today, 8 weeks to go! X

Hope you are ok MoN and the bleeding has stopped asked your results come back speedily (if that's even a word)

I no we've discussed previously but now were a little further on I just wondered what people's sex lives are like? Mine is virtually non existent ATM and I'm hoping its not just me lol x

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 19:49:40

pseudo with mine I had to not eat/drink from 9pm then at 7am drink 410ml of lucozade original then bloods taken at 9am xx

roofio87 Mon 19-Aug-13 19:53:37

My parents have very very nicely offered us £5000 for the wedding. which is more than enough for what we want. We're very lucky. trying to write a guest list and im up to 69 with just our immediate familes!!! confused

AnythingNotEverything Mon 19-Aug-13 19:59:49

Pseudo - with mine I had a big bowl or spag bol and a late snack, and honestly felt fine not eating until after. I was surprised as normally I've had breakfast and a snack by then! I arrived at hospital at 8.45 for. 9am appointment, blood taken at 9.15, solution drunk, then bloods taken again at 11.15. I was in Greggs for a cheese sandwich by 11.30!

Natalie ... We're still DTD at 32 weeks! Not very often, maybe fortnightly, but mainly because I'm tired and we're busy getting the house finished. We're down to one position, but it's still working for us. Hoping we can keep it up ..

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 20:08:31

Thanks Nat and Anything - I have to not eat after midnight and then go to hospital for 9am. I'll have a cheese toastie at about 11pm I reckon....

And sex.... Not so much. Dp would love to but I'm so tired and my body isn't really playing ball fluid wise

AnythingNotEverything Mon 19-Aug-13 20:11:10

I meant to add - I woke at 3am with indigestion and didn't know if I was allowed a rennie! Might be worth checking if you're likely to suffer.

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 20:13:03

That's a very good point, I'll ring them, thanks

nat sex is good when we have it prob average 2 a week atm which is fairly normal - have to get a bit more bendy or try different positions than normal but ok grin

GTbaby Mon 19-Aug-13 20:18:40

Sister. I've been looking at doubles. My 10month old is quite big for his age. When we tried the oyster max out he seemed to fill the chair already. Looking at phil n ted verve which shows the bigger chair is for up to 6yr olds. So going to check it out soon hopefully.

Shirehobbit Mon 19-Aug-13 20:18:55

Natalie - remind me, what is sex?! blush
Does that answer your question?

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 19-Aug-13 20:27:45

gt we've decided on the verve, not bought it yet but 99% sure we will.
natalie we don't dtd very often at all these days, I am just not in the mood. I feel sorry for DH hit I just can't get into the mood when I look so completely hideous. I am totally unsexy!
bluesnow not sure if you should be asking for more or if its just nhs luck of the draw. My consultant seems keen on scanning rather than the measuring tape, plus ds will only be 13 months when this baby is due so perhaps extra caution due to closeness of pregnancies? Not sure.
I've got his letter that details my last appt with him and it doesn't say why I'm being scanned again it just says that he will at 33 weeks when he sees me next. Sorry can't be more helpful.

chickieno1 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:31:19

Agree with shire what is sex?????

ananikifo Mon 19-Aug-13 20:35:31

pseudo good luck with the wedding! So exciting!

anything rennies say on the box that they are safe for pregnancy. One of the indications for using them is pregnancy-related indigestion.

nat I have dtd once since conceiving. I had morning sickness and exhaustion, then DH became worried about hurting baby or it being weird. I've tried to bring up the subject again this week. I'm so jealous of people still doing it.

If anyone missed the 20% of m&s codes last week, clothing is 20% off on the website until tomorrow.

Also I'm sure I registered for the aptamil baby club at least 3 months ago and today I finally got my first post from them: a little bottle of mum to be bath soak. Nice! I had signed up just for the toy polar bear but ticked all the boxes to say I didn't want info on formula feeding do I assumed I just wasn't getting anything.

Wickedgirl Mon 19-Aug-13 20:41:44

natalie dtd only about once a week now as SPD has made everything too sore

orangeblossom we have 4 cats here but have never had fleas so your breast feeding chair should be fine

I have seen a midwife at weeks 12, 16 and 26. My next visit is next week at 34 weeks and will then be every 2 weeks.

legallyblond Mon 19-Aug-13 20:44:22

Gosh. Exhausted. We are doing a huge favour for a friend who has a childcare emergency and looking after two boys, just 4 and 18 months, as well as DD (2.10) from today until Weds, until 6.30pm.... Phew. And me 34 weeks with twins... Thankfully DH is mostly around too.

Still, to those thinking of doubles... Road tested our brand new bugaboo donkey today with DD and the 18 month old on seats (DD is tall - she's in a group 3 car seat) and the 4yo on the buggy board.... Its a dream!!

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 20:48:05

I have to say I admire u legally I wouldn't want to use my pushchair outside until I had my real new born baby to test it with lol x

PseudoBadger Mon 19-Aug-13 20:48:43

I'm not getting married Ana - 8 years engaged no sign of a wedding grin

Legally you are a great friend!

ananikifo Mon 19-Aug-13 20:52:39

Sorry I meant roofio.

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 20:54:40

Baby has hiccups hehe dh can even see them.

And ah Jesus Christ my toothache is killing me I definately can't take 8 weeks of toothache until I can have my wisdom tooth removed!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one not getting any sex lol I like the idea of getting it but when dh comes on to me I just give him the brush off cos I then don't feel up to it then regret it later hmmpphh

claphammama Mon 19-Aug-13 20:57:22

legally you are an angel... this is a huge favour. Hope your friend appreciates and I'm sure it will all come back to you. I do believe in karma!

re: sex - I'm afraid I'm like a rabbit blush. Never exactly suffered from low sex drive but this extra blood flow and hormones are doing something to me... I'm trying to comfort DP telling him that last time I went off it completely for 3 months after birth so the end is in sight. Also running out of positions though

We also got engaged in March so will have to think about the wedding at some point. To be honest, I would love to elope... and do it just the two of us plus DCs somewhere lovely abroad. DP has a massive family and my family is complicated (to say the least) - it would be so much stress and I want it to be just about us and I want it to be a happy relaxed day. Would only take MIL as she is lovely and could babysit!

Congratulations on your anniversary orange

Dp said last night that I'm getting to big for sex now. When I looked offended he said that he feels like he might hurt the baby if he's on top. I'm reluctant to go on top because apart from being really lazy now it irritates my urethra. I should get the results back from the lab in 3 days so hopefully I'll get some relief soon.

AnythingNotEverything Mon 19-Aug-13 21:03:01

Sorry Anan - I should be clearer! I meant that I wasn't sure I was allowed a Rennie because of my fasting glucose tolerance test.

I'm getting through so many I probably ought to buy shares ...

ananikifo Mon 19-Aug-13 21:07:33

Lol I messed that post up, big-time!!

HotSoupDumpling Mon 19-Aug-13 21:11:07

Rennies! Completely forgot they existed and suffered really badly in the past month. Now they are my best friend...

Lots of news to catch up on today. Textbook, glad you are having consultant care. Amazed by the number of engaged ladies we have on the thread - how lovely!! Would love to hear the wedding chat. Had a very small wedding myself, but am fascinated by all weddings, big or small!

Flyer747 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:14:18

Evening All, what a dog of a day...dp had all his tyres slashed on his car, no idea who or why but mega peed off....4 new tyres that are mega expensive ones as well, just what we need when we have loads of stuff still to buy....

Test results came back ok so my symptoms are obviously all in my head.

Off for a long soak. I need chocolate.

Congrats on the anniversary orange.

Text I hope all keeps going ok with the placenta previa, my friend had one earlier thus year but it was never picked up believe it or not, she had to have emcs at 28 weeks, her wee boy is doing really well though. It's good that you are being closely monitored.

Flyer747 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:18:02

Sorry textbook I just re read that post and I don't want to put the fear of god in you....what I meant is its good you are being monitored as unlike my friend who wasn't that you'll go full term because they are keeping a close eye on it.

Did you go for your bra fitting Flyer?

Pinkforboys Mon 19-Aug-13 21:29:33

pseudo I was told to fast 24hrs pre GTT, which was from 9pm the night before. Only water after that. They made us drink foul sugar solution before the successive BTs. Not pleasant but i really enjoyed the late brekkie afterwards.

I'm envious of those rabbits on the thread. I've had more in my dreams than in reality the last 9mths! But DH and I are waaaay over the honeymoon period. Oh to be engaged again....

Natalieand Mon 19-Aug-13 22:00:41

Where's our resident dentist when u need her? Lol rachel r u here? Xx

Evening had a strange and hectic day.

Nat sex is not on the cards here dtd about 4 times since conception just too tired in all honesty.

As for weddings me and DH got hitched at gretna green our whole wedding cost just over 2 grand which my folks paid most of. The package we paid for to have the actually ceremony over the anvil, a piper, a photographer was only £595 lol we arranged it in 6 weeks when we realised the "dream" wedding we had already put a deposit on was going to cost us about 10,000 we did not have! I got married on the winter solstice it was beautiful!

PseudoBadger Tue 20-Aug-13 06:35:50

I think that all the physical effort that DS demanded yesterday has taken its toll - I've woken up with bad PGP. I've checked my work diary and I'm going to phone in sick and do nothing all day (DS goes to childminder).

Bleugh a very bad nights sleep here. Couldn't get comfy. Very wriggly baby, hurting up my left side and hips, dry lips, thirsty, needing toilet every hour, hungry, too cold, too hot... I am not sure i got much more than a couple of hours. Moan moan moan.

Has anyone else started making meals and freezing them? I really want to get started on that. Waiting in for a parcel today but as soon as it comes I am going to buy some cheap foil trays from the pound shop and start with some lasagnes.

Good luck with the GTT test and flyer glad tests were all ok for you.

Flyer747 Tue 20-Aug-13 07:28:37

Lousy night sleep here as well orange. Feel like I've been dug up.

Another horrid headache, I'm averaging 3 per week in this last trimester. confused

Supposed to be in work too, luckily as I only do 3 days I have just texted my boss asking her to swap my day to another.

Orange that's very organised of you, I wish I could be so disciplined by preparing meals in advance. Just cooking dinner is a mega chore for me these days. grin

Natalieand Tue 20-Aug-13 07:59:46

Morning all. flowers to those they didn't sleep too well xx

I woke twice for a wee and my tooth pain is a little less severe today thank god I didn't chuck dd's teething gel away lol

I'm with u flyer I put cooking dinner off till I really have to do it and dh is like what's for dinner?... Hmm whatever u get out the freezer for yourself lol

Hope your day of rest helps ease your pain pseudo

ananikifo Tue 20-Aug-13 08:08:15

I think once my kitchen in the new house is useable I'll start batch cooking. I'll be almost 37 weeks when I leave work so it's quite possible that I may not get a lot of time at home before baby comes to do things like that.

We found out that one of DH's best friend just had a bfp and will be due exactly 6 months after us! She texted me to ask if it's normal to feel tired, and it made me realise how far we've come since we were asking those kinds of questions. Almost at the end, now.

And sympathies to the insomniacs. I had the worst night's sleep on Sunday but last night DH brought home a really special bottle of wine he'd been given at work. I had my first half glass of wine since February and I slept like a baby! I found myself thinking I should do that every night, and then remembering that it wouldn't be a good idea...

I am glad the tooth pain is a little better today Natalie. I case you were thinking of it, don't take adult bonjella without checking, I read the info leaflet when I had a mouth ulcer a few months ago and I seem to remember it not being good in pregnancy.

I am on summer holidays for a couple more weeks so want to get as much done as possible now, then I am working to 38 weeks and could potentially have no free time before the baby arrives. I enjoy cooking much more than cleaning too - a much more interesting form of nesting.

I am a bit scared of the baby name boards MN... What do you think of our name choices (we don't know what we are having yet). Our surname is 3 syllables starting with W.

Sophie Katherine (My mums middle name as middle name)
Sophie Matilda
Sophie Elizabeth (My grandmothers name as middle name)

Amelie Katherine
Amelie Charlotte
Amelie Florence

Thomas John (both our grandfathers names as middle name)
Thomas Oliver

Natalieand Tue 20-Aug-13 08:32:23

Love Amelie Florence and Thomas Oliver out of those orange all of them are lovely but that would be my choice from the list xx

Names are a minefield in my house we don't even have a short list and were having a boy. We chose quite early on what dd would be called and its stressing me out being no where near choosing a name x

ananikifo Tue 20-Aug-13 08:34:04

Orange I like all your names, especially an combination with Sophie because I really like Sophie.

And I hope your tooth feels better, nat.

Flyer747 Tue 20-Aug-13 08:40:00

Orange I like all those names. Sophie Katherine and Elizabeth go well together, I also love the name Sophie (friends already have it though)

I also love Thomas it's my boys name of choice, however dp's best friend had a boy in jan and called him Thomas! Boohoo hmm although they live miles away and we see them twice a year tops so I don't see why we can't use it also!

Pinkforboys Tue 20-Aug-13 09:23:05

orange all those names are lovely. Good grandparents' names to choose from. I love both Sophie and Amelie, with either of those she's got to be a beautiful and gentle girl (fx)

I've just done a mega-shop online at GAP- 25% off kids & baby wear til Thursday with BTS25. Their babygros are so soft and were my fave for DS. Having said I wouldn't be a sucker for pink I've succumbed! But not for the royal theme stuff tho, cute as it is!

Sorry to those who slept really badly- here's to a good nap...x

Smitten1981 Tue 20-Aug-13 09:54:57

Hi everyone, haven't been posting for a while but have been reading. Sympathies to those with aches and pains and insomnia - not long to go now though!

We had a 4D scan on Sunday and got some good pics, he looks like his dad for sure. He's measuring 2 weeks ahead at a slightly big 5lbs already, but he's still within the percentile curve so that's a blessing. He spent the whole scan trying to reach his foot with both arms out, so that was cute to watch.

On the name front we're still really stuck, the only name we can agree on is Felix, but DH is going off it and we were out Saturday night and were talking about names and someone who was out was like "Don't listen to anyone about names, it's up to you", blah blah, and then 5 mins later said "I really like Felix, but my husband says it's really gay". Thanks for that!

I guess we're just going to have to wait and see what he looks like.

Orange I love Thomas for a boy, It'd be high up on our list if it wasn't my ex's name - grr! My neighbours have just had a Thomas too. Sophie and Amelie are lovely as well, I especially like Sophie Matilda, Matilda was on our list for a girl.

SeriousStuff Tue 20-Aug-13 10:04:56

Orange Sophie Matilda is a very nice name.

We've had our name agreed for the last 5 months, but the last couple of days, I've started to doubt it. To the point where DH and I started going back through the baby name book last night. We drafted another list, then decided maybe we just stick with what we chose initially as it will become the baby's name after a while, even if it feels weird now. Anyone else having this problem?!

Permission to moan too! Had another awful night's sleep. Managed to stop myself from napping yesterday, hoping it would help, but didn't get to sleep until after 3am and had to get up 4 times to pee! I've done an hour's work and now I'm ready for my bed!

PseudoBadger Tue 20-Aug-13 10:15:25

I would have loved Thomas if we were having a second boy - but not sure you can have a Dylan and a Thomas....?
My best friend's DS is Felix and I love the name.

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 10:17:21

I agree with everyone orange - these are all lovely and classic names. I think you can't go wrong with either combination. And I know what you mean about MN baby names board... or other boards. I sometimes click on Mumsnet Discussions of the Day if something piques my interest and am shocked how nasty and opinionated some people can be!

smitten I love Felix. It was one of my favourite boy names.

sympathies to everyone who had a bad night... fellow insomniac here so feel for you

flyer what an awful day yesterday... hope you are feeling better and the long soak helped? Take it easy today. And DP's car tyres... shocker. Why would someone do it? Envy? Is it a nice car? Tyres can be so incredibly expensive... we changed ours two months ago I and couldn't believe how much they cost...

pseudo good for you! A day off without DS should make all the difference and things will look better by 5pm :-) Make sure you don't guilt yourself into doing something at home (this would be me!) and you really take this day to rest and look after yourself. You don't have long before your ML right?

natalie glad your tooth feels better. Why on earth would your dentist prescribe antibiotics to a pregnant woman without an obvious and valid reason...?

I am also planning to cook and freeze as soon as my ML starts. I love cooking anyway so not really a chore and will need to fill my time anyway as DS will be at school (I miss him so much this week... sad)

DP has a man flu and is really annoying. It's really just a runny nose, no cough, no fever, no sore throat. But he is dying... and cannot be cured. Ever.

Warlin Tue 20-Aug-13 11:02:31

Morning all

flyer what a rubbish day so far. How awful re the tires.

legally you are either a brilliant friend or a lunatic smile That's a lot of kids. We have the donkey too and it's currently sitting in our spare room and I keep nipping in to push it around. It fits through all our internal doors which I'm delighted with as I wasn't expecting.

Just back from mw apt and baby has turned woo hoo! He is head down, well positioned and measuring spot on. Had lovely mw (who I remember from last time). I was asking her about cord blood storage but she didn't know if it can be done here. She is going to bring it up at her regional mw meeting and get some info for me.

I'm working from home today. Told work I will be finishing next week although my boss won't be back until next Tue.,,,just feel better knowing the end is in sight. DS in nursery and the house lovely and quiet....getting some quality time with the dog.

Feel so bad for ds too that his wee world will change forever soon sad

cuillereasoupe Tue 20-Aug-13 11:20:31

Hello everyone, been a while since I checked in! off to catch the Eurostar to London in a bit. I'm having trouble sleeping too - terrible restless arms and legs. Turns out nookie is the only thing that stops it grin

It's taken a lot of wrangling, but we're more or less settled on Alistair Tobias.

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 11:41:15

yay - such good news warlin! And good you are finishing earlier - nothing they can do about it. I've just been excluded from another meeting - so obviously and shamelessly that I'm going to work form home tomorrow or just take it off sick as it's too upsetting and too stressful now. Not my style and have never done it before but I can't take it anymore. The end is in sight indeed!

I don't feel bad at all about giving DS a sibling. I feel great about it! Your DS will have a richer and better childhood not being the only one. DP is an only child as his mum had fertility problems and couldn't have more and he says it's sad to grow up on your own, not matter how many friends you may have outside home. My DS is 5 now and totally excited about the baby, he was so jealous of all other children with siblings. I know you will have a smaller age gap which may be a bit challenging to start with and you may get some initial jealousy etc (I bet I will get it too once DS realises that I'm no longer just his!), but it will be so nice for them to grow up so close together, do the same activities and share memories later on.

Umlauf Tue 20-Aug-13 11:47:24

I hope its not so terrible to be an only child seeing as my DS will be one!

Has anyone seen Prince George's first photo? He is gorgeous, and I have the Seraphine dress Kate is wearing! Wondering how much I could gt for it on eBay now...!

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 11:56:30

oh umlauf sorry, really didn't intend to upset anyone who is planning to have just one! flowers DP is just one of millions of people who grew up as single children and everyone will have a different experience. Was just responding to mums who are worried about inflicting a sibling on their little ones. These decisions are so personal - there is no right or wrong. I was only talking about pros. x

Umlauf Tue 20-Aug-13 11:59:47

Don't worry clapham, I think he'll be fine, if not we can always reassess the decision! There are pros and cons to both, my own sibling is terrible so I only ever wanted one. I think people often want what they didn't have. My mother thinks I'm terribly cruel for only wanting one!!

Children love the idea of siblings so I think it is lovely to have more than one child :-)

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 12:08:40

My sibling is not terrible at all but very weak personality and totally brainwashed by my mum who is controlling her and using her as her messenger so, sadly, because of my mum we are not close at all... I often feel like I don't have a sister. That's why I think I'm subconsciously trying to create what I didn't have, a happy loving family with siblings who grow up close together and support each other... probably easier said than done but I will do my best :-)

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 20-Aug-13 12:16:00

Interestingly we were talking about birth order and family size at my NCT class last night. Such a wide range of experiences - for example I am 1 of 7 and, although there were some positives, overall I didn't enjoy being part of such a large family. Whereas another lady there was 1 of 6 and loved it.

Sounds a bit bonkers given that I'm expecting DC2 but I'm a big fan of one child families. Our decision to have another was very driven by my personal feelings of wanting another, rather than any desire to give DD a sibling (if that makes sense).

Umlauf - I think you are right about people often wanting what they didn't have.

PseudoBadger Tue 20-Aug-13 12:19:06

I'm an only child, and DP is the oldest of 3 boys. He definitely doesn't want 3 based on his experiences grin; we both thought we'd be happy with one and then I surprised us by wanting a 2nd DP will come round to having 2 I'm sure

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 20-Aug-13 12:23:53

Arrrgh, did get rather annoyed last night though when one of the husbands was raving about how a small age gap is best.

I couldn't believe he was saying all this stuff not knowing the size of other people's age gaps or the reasons behind them.

Im in the slept awful club too my legs are throbbing and my hips keep hurting on my side so i am constantly moving blueh.

I am a only child and hated it a lot I was devastated at the thought i might not have another Then this wee miracle came along but equally i know people who have/do hate there siblings its defo a personal choice.

I bought DS new books today The tiger who came to tea and mog the forgetful cat. I am trying to get him to branch out from nick sharrat and the hungry caterpillar!

Great news warlin

orange I like all those names but sophie elizabeth and thomas oliver best smile

PseudoBadger Tue 20-Aug-13 12:25:30

Absolutely Bridget. However people don't understand that you get the gap you're given until they experience problems themselves sad

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 12:28:48

agree bridget - ideally, I would prefer a smaller age gap but it didn't happen this way and I can totally see pros and cons for both scenarios. So I'm not stressing about having 5 years between DC1 and DC2.

JellyCurls Tue 20-Aug-13 12:31:20

We also having moments of panic about bringing another child into the world, think its completely normal. DC1 has special needs so takes up a lot of our time. DC2 gets the rest and its his time that will be impacted more by baby coming along as DC1 needs almost constant 1 to 1. First years will be hard I am sure but somehow we will all muddle through and hope to come out other side smiling.

34 week mw appointment tomorrow, will be good to hear HV again.

For those packing hospital bags still remember the arnica tablets to help heal the internal bruising. Oh and if you have dc already who will be visiting you in hospital after baby born remember to look them out clothes before you go in. That way you won't be like my friend who's DH brought their son to hospital in trousers too short taken out the charity bag, odd socks and a dirty t-shirt

Haylebop12 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:34:38

Dh is 2/4 and I'm 3/4. I didn't mind having brothers and sisters tbh and dh would like 4. I'm happy with 3!

My age gap is 4.9 years, not through choice. It would have been 3.11 had I not had mc. Although I definitely wasn't ready before then. Neither was our relationship tbh. We had dd very quickly and were living 100 miles apart until 34 weeks when I moved in. so actually spent time after she was born getting to know each other fully etc.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 20-Aug-13 12:35:07

Oooh good book choices Falcons

Was going to say that if he likes Mog you could get 'Mog and the baby' but remembered the baby is very annoying, keeps crying and ends up in the road.....so maybe not!

Have a big soft spot for children's books...if money was no object (lottery win or mega rich hubbie) I'd set up a specialist children's book shop and not care two hoots if it made a profit.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 20-Aug-13 12:40:38

Jelly good tip about the clothes for older DC. 36 years on my mum still hasn't forgiven my Dad for bringing my older siblings into hospital looking like urchins when I was born.

My DP is awful at getting DD dressed - if I ask him to pop upstairs to get a pair of socks or something you can bet he manages to find the one and only pair in drawer that no longer fit. It's like some weird talent!

roofio87 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:42:48

haha jelly sounds like when I was born and my sister turned up in younger siblings clothes and shoes on the wrong feet!!

this is dc1 for us and we'll definitely have at least one more. im starting up as a childminder so will be at home but probably won't be able to afford to have two spaces taken up by our own kids so will probably be waiting until this one is at school until number 2. if money was no issue I'd have them closer but I don't really think age gaps matter. I have 2 older sisters and loved it, they're my best friends now! !

Haylebop12 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:43:55

My mum is worse than dh, she brought Amelia to hospital (when I was in with HG) in a pair of pyjama shorts!! Apparantly dd convinced her they were normal shorts!

Flyer747 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:44:47

I have one sister who is 4.1 years older than me, we fought like cat and dog growing up but i can honestly say she is my best friend, I can't imagine not having her around. We are chalk and cheese though. Whenever I have any news to tell my sister is the first person I call...We've lived together at various points throughout our 20's and 30's, I realise how lucky I am having a good relationship with her.

Clapham yes we wonder if it was a envy/jealous thing with the tyres, it was done outside our house on the driveway shock and we live in a decent area of Liverpool....either this or we have upset a neighbour after only 2 months living here (not that we've actually spoken to any of them other than a brief hello)

I'm only set on having one but am open minded to the fact I may change my mind later on.

Shirehobbit Tue 20-Aug-13 12:49:30

Children's illustrated books are just so beautiful these days (though the more minimalist Mog and the Albergs Funny Bones are still firm favourites of mine). I love the sumptuous colours and drawings.

Just back from my antenatal yoga - with each week I get more and more out of the sessions (I was a tinsy bit skeptical at the outset). Feel so much better for going smile

We're still having name anxieties too! Keep going off whichever was top of the list and having to revisit. Though we have been keeping it a closely guarded secret, I think I may need to consult you all soon as it is driving me mad!!

It's funny, we have swung from saying we can only just afford one DC to planning siblings and back again. We're obviously waiting to see how this one goes (and after a difficult time conceiving, we can't forget how much of a miracle it is) but I think if money were no object, we'd be trying for number 2 pretty soon. This is all subject to change after this DC's arrival of course!!

Flyer747 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:50:08

Hayle have you heard any news on the house yet?

Shirehobbit Tue 20-Aug-13 12:53:16

We're both 2/2 btw, with the exact same gap between us and our elder brothers. Both of our brothers are quite difficult (but in different ways) and we spent a lot of time talking over the challenges of being a sibling to someone with issues/special needs.
But we also remembered the good times. And we have good relationships with our brothers now, too.

Flyer747 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:53:25

Speaking of children's books I had one when I was a child which I loved called "The Jolly Postman" it was so cool, I hope my mum still has it in the loft.

Also I don't know if anyone remembers topsy and tim books? These were my favourite books as a small girl I loved them grin

Natalieand Tue 20-Aug-13 12:54:10

Very interesting to hear people's views on number of dc and age gaps etc. dh and I were both adamant we only ever wanted one dc and then when I found out I was having a girl I was even more adamant I would stick to the one as I had been desperate for a girl then as she got to 1yr+ months I started getting broody and it took me a good 9 months to talk dh into letting me have my implant removed and even then I had to agree not to get obsessive like last time with ovulations tests etc as dh has problems with his sperm so took us a year to fall with dd but only 3 months this time round and although I think long term dd will enjoy having a brother my immediate concerns are like those of others....feeling guilty for turning their little lives upside down. My age gap will be exactly 3 years give or take a week or so depending how close baby comes to due date . I am 1 of 6 and dh is 1 of 2 but they have 13 years between them so he is 24 and his sister is only 11

PseudoBadger Tue 20-Aug-13 13:06:10

I had the Topsy and Tims! I loved them and my mum hated them grin

Thanks for positive comments on names!

Me and DH were both the eldest of three growing up (Mum then had a 4th when I was twelve but we didn't play like siblings) and we both want either 2 or 3 depending on finances, we couldn't fit 3 in our current house. Also I think if we had two boys we might be more tempted to have a third, though I am not sure.

Teaching year 1 for the last few years means I have collected lots of beautiful picture books, I can't resist buying them and always justified it by saying I could give them to my own baby one day, and now they on the shelf in our babies nursery propped up by very cute hedgehog bookends. I have kept some from my childhood too like five minutes peace.

xuntitledx Tue 20-Aug-13 13:29:40

Another one joining the terrible nights sleep party! Hubby couldn't sleep so was awake watching crap TV till 3am which kept waking me up. At 3am I lost my temper though and made him turn it off, at which point he promptly fell asleep within 5 mins and then kept me awake which his loud snores, grrr!!

Re. books, Bridget I'm with you on wishing I could open up a bookshop. The 'Shop around the Corner' from the film 'You've got Mail' was my ideal - it just looked so cosy and comforting in there smile

I was also a massive bookworm growing up but unfortunately my parents were always broke so I didn't own many books and had to borrow from the library. Due to this, we've gone a bit mad with the books for the baby and have already set up his bookshelf and have got lots on there already such as:

The Hungry Caterpillar
The Jolly Postman
Dr Seuss
Spot the Dog
Funny Bones
Rainbow Fish
Alfie
Dogger
Threadbear
Kipper
Babar

Slightly obsessed!

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 20-Aug-13 13:46:37

Love love love childrens books, there are so many wonderful stories. Ds has loads of books already and I insist on reading to him even though all he tries to do is rip the pages out grin
We wouldn't have planned this small age gap but I think it will be good in the end. We always wanted more than one but I think we'll stop at 2. We are both one of 3 but DH was a surprise baby and is 10 years younger than his siblings so they aren't so close whereas as my brothers and I are as we are closer in age.

Shirehobbit Tue 20-Aug-13 13:51:22

Oh, Dogger always makes me cry! blush

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 13:57:48

So good to get your tips on children's titles. DS loves books and has lots of them but I see I'm still missing some classics I've never heard about. Will check them out! I didn't grow up in the UK so we didn't have some of these books. I grew up on Moomins and loved them. Anyone else? I've bought a couple of Moomins books for DS but he is not too keen which I find very disappointing. I also remember loving Pippi Longstocking when I was a bit older.

claphammama Tue 20-Aug-13 13:59:32

still on the subject of books - feeling a bit low at work today so just bought myself Rick Stein's India to cheer myself up. For some weekend cooking

Pinkforboys Tue 20-Aug-13 14:06:44

Ah, children's books- a wonderful obsession