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January 2014 (thread 8) Half way there just about! Finding out pink or blue

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BuntCadger Tue 13-Aug-13 11:13:23

New thread for us, can't believe another one filled! Half way there girls smile on the homeward stretch smile xx

Holly94 Tue 13-Aug-13 11:19:37

Can't believe how fast it's going! Feels like yesterday I was staring at that faint, pink line!

BuntCadger Tue 13-Aug-13 11:25:02

Lol holly it is flying! Is this your first? Congrats and welcome xx

Naturegirl82 Tue 13-Aug-13 11:26:45

Just checking in smile

Holly94 Tue 13-Aug-13 11:33:16

Yes my first... A very, very unexpected, surprise baby (I'm probably the youngest on this thread at 18) but very much wanted. Although I spent the first trimester in a complete state of shock I think it's finally starting to sink in, I'm having a baby in January.. Or February, whenever he/she decides to make an appearance smile
Congratulations to you all grin

Reporting for duty!

Yorkiedodah Tue 13-Aug-13 12:13:03

Hi everyone Bit of a mamouth post with tmi warning.

Been quiet for ages and just wanted to share my scary weekend wiv u and get sum virtual hugs.

A friend of mine had invited me and dp to her wedding reception in Herts on Sat so we made the journey down from west yorks on the train.

Went for a pub lunch as the reception didnt start till six and sat down.30 mins in I felt like what was the start of a period.

Freaked out so decided to head to our hotel room and decide what to do there.
Called my mum, by this time it looked like a full type period and she said I should call an ambulance.

Now the hotel was the wedding reception and guests had started to arrive.
Paramedic came in a car and when DP asked what the outcome could be this 'professional' turned around and said it was miscarriage!!

I was totally freaked and was crying and when the ambulance came I was whisked away to the local hospital.

Im about 17 weeks and they said I was too early to go to the mat unit so went to the gyn ward where I was admitted.

Doc examined me with what looked liked a plastic smear test thingy. I was still crying thought this would harm the baby even more.sad sad

Blood was everywhere cramping had just kicked in and I really thought it was all over.

They admitted me in over night put me on a drip- Dp was not allowed to stay with me so went back to the hotel room.Doc said the placenta could have come away. I was desperate for a scan but was reassured with hearing baby's heart beat.

Bleeding subsided over night and was discharged the next day.

The bride texted me to see if I was okay which was lovely.

Now im at home hav mw appt tomorrow and Im terrified that this could happen again.

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 12:29:27

Marking my place - thanks bunt!

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 12:36:11

yorkie blimey hun! What an absolute nightmare for you! You must have been so scared! Did they work out what had caused it or is it inconclusive at the moment?

Yorkiedodah Tue 13-Aug-13 12:52:40

Sultan It really was. Doc said there was no 100 way of finding out what had caused it. He did say phaps the placenta had come away from the lining. But then he said ' I couldnt care less where it came from just that it stops'
At the time that was exactly what I wanted to hear although doesnt help much with reflection.envy envy

Holly94 Tue 13-Aug-13 12:56:41

Yorkie hope everything's okay flowers
One thing I've noticed on mn is there's lots of ladies who've bled through pregnancies and gone on to have perfectly healthy babies.

Yorkiedodah Tue 13-Aug-13 13:05:51

Hi Holly welcome to the thread
One of the nurses said something similar. This pregnancy malarkey is not easy -going through random bleeding ... i just dont know. sad sad my 20 w scan couldnt come soon enough (29th). Have you got a date for yours yet?

BookTart Tue 13-Aug-13 13:13:33

Crikey yorkie, that sounds terrifying, you poor thing. I hope everything goes okay tomorrow. Could you ask for a scan maybe? I can't believe they didn't scan you in the hospital angry

Hiya holly!

BuntCadger Tue 13-Aug-13 13:20:04

Yorkie - that sounds terrifying and sending virtual hugs to you. I hope your midwife manages to reassure you and that it doesn't happen again. With ds1 I had a bleed which was a bit of placenta as it moved up. With ds2 I had post coital (post shagging) bleedblush was told that they had another woman in who been using a vibrator and had a bleed! Suffice to say I am rather paranoid about and naughty business at the mo.

BuntCadger Tue 13-Aug-13 13:21:20

Wow holly was a lovely surprise and it is the most amazing thing and greatest privilege being a parent. I wish I'd started much sooner. I'm 38 now and this is number 4 x

MissTink Tue 13-Aug-13 13:21:50

Hi, I'm 19 weeks today with my first, super excited and a ill bit scared just thought I would say hello.
Sorry to hear you are having such a tough time yorkie big hugs xxx

MrsVDB Tue 13-Aug-13 13:25:38

yorkie that sounds awful hope you're ok

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 13:30:54

Holly and MissTink Welcome aboard!!!

Mrsv another boy! Hurray! Was beginning to think I would be the only one! wink What a little monkey hiding his bits!

yorkie fingers firmly crossed - I have known several friends who have kept having bleeds throughout - some really quite heavy - and all has been well. Hope they scan you tomorrow for reassurance....

MrsAVB Tue 13-Aug-13 13:32:44

Checking in...
yorkie hope you're doing ok, sounds horrible but so glad everything turned out ok. Hope you are managing to rest up.

Holly94 Tue 13-Aug-13 13:41:23

yorkie just think you're this far now.. With each week the chance of anything happening drops even lower. I had a random bleed (spotting) the other day and panicked and it turned out to be nothing at all - they had no explanation for it other than 'it sometimes happens'! My scan date is 12th September.

MrsVDB Tue 13-Aug-13 13:51:53

Posted this on other thread as didn't realise we were so close to end but had my gender scan today

So after being 99% sure it was a girl it's a boy!! Now id better take back the girly stuff I bought!!

He's going to be stubborn. Had his little legs stretched out but crossed so couldn't see anything. Then had to jump about with pants around my knees and he curled his legs up but still crossed but eventually gave us the money shot!!

Yorkiedodah Tue 13-Aug-13 14:13:29

Thank you all for your positive messages. It'd be lovely to get a scan tomorrow but dont think I will. Just taking it easy as Im still on holiday and have plenty of time left till school starts again.

A boy! such good news xx

I cant wait wink wink x

MrsGSR Tue 13-Aug-13 14:15:07

Welcome Holly and MissTink!

flowers yorkie. Fx for your midwife appointment. I've mentioned before that my SIL had a bad bleed at 17 weeks, she's now 30 weeks and baby is perfect.

Mythreeknights Tue 13-Aug-13 14:42:18

Checking in grin Sounds like lots going on today! Yorkie, fingers X that the bleed was one of those 'random things'. Mrs VDB, did you FEEL that you were having a girl and it turned out to be a boy? Was it gut instinct? I'm sort of thinking I'm having a girl as this feels so different to my last 2 pgs (boys) but I'm also expecting a boy as that's more likely...but I want to know who FELT they were having one thing and found out they were definitely having that gender, or other?
I think I felt a kick yesterday, but not getting too excited as was probably wind. My 20 week scan is still DECADES away (10 Sept...I'll be 21 weeks) Other than that, all good. Had wierd sex dream about the carpet fitter last night, that was definitely not good. Got to the point where he was about to hop into bed with me and saw that I had a bump and I was like, HANG ON, you are NOT my husband, I'm NOT sure about this, but mmmmm it would be nice. hmm what's going on there??!

lovelilies Tue 13-Aug-13 14:53:00

Marking place grin
So sorry for your ordeal yorkie fx all ok thanks

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 14:53:51

Mythree my gut was boy and it is a boy (unless two sonographers got it wrong!) Lol - loving your dream! I have never had so many naughty dreams in my life! Thankfully my Jude Law dream is a distant memory and I am back to feeling indifferent towards him! Phew!!!

lovelilies Tue 13-Aug-13 14:56:03

I'm pretty sure this ones a boy, based on nub theory and dp's hints (did obs and gynae last year) but we're not 'officially' finding out on wed at the scan, unless it's obvious! grin

Holly94 Tue 13-Aug-13 15:00:39

I've got a question, can anyone feel kicking yet? I'm 15+5 and think I've felt a few flutters but desperate to know when I'll feel those proper little kicks!

MissTink Tue 13-Aug-13 15:03:54

Thank you sultanajo and MrsGSR happy to join the group and have a bit of a sounding board in the weeks ahead.

MrsVDB Tue 13-Aug-13 15:05:06

mythree yes I just felt it was a girl, I was so sure. Also nub theory pointed to a girl but obviously not! Does explain my hairy belly though ha ha.

I also had a weird dream last night that the baby was a mouse and was in clothes and in its cot ha ha. Probably because stupid cat bought a mouse into the bedroom though. I need to have some of these randy dreams your all having!!

Blimey yorkie you poor duck. Sounds horrid. Hope everything has settled down a bit now.

TobyLerone Tue 13-Aug-13 15:42:49

Hi thread 8 smile

yorkie, that sounds scary. Fingers crossed for no repeats of that.

Welcome newbies grin

I wish I had a date for my 20 week scan!

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 16:47:55

Grrrr Toby! That's just ridiculous that you are past 19 weeks and they haven't sorted themselves out! Cuntpuffins! angry I feel so lucky to have at least had a date in good time so I could count down to it. I can only imagine how frustrated you must feel!

TobyLerone Tue 13-Aug-13 16:57:32

Ah, at least I won't have a long wait when it arrives... Silver linings and all that!

And I have until 21+6, don't I?

flowersfortea Tue 13-Aug-13 17:30:16

hello everyone, marking place

yorkie what a horrible scare, hope all settles down again and that the scan goes well

Frizz1986 Tue 13-Aug-13 17:57:07

Just checking in.

Sorry youre having a tough time yorkie Huge fx that all is ok.

Welcome to the newbies!!

sultana i am fully expecting a boy (we wont be finding out tho) Will be a surprise if its a girl tbh.

Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 17:59:39

Toby it seems to vary depending on the website you look at. The private clinic I used for the NT scan says between 20-22 weeks is the optimum so structures can be seen more clearly....


Sultanajo Tue 13-Aug-13 18:01:05

Ekkkk Frizz. Can't wait to find out what everyone is having - and for some we will have to be patient and wait for them to pop out in Dec/Jan! she says impatiently drumming her fingers

Toothfairy78 Tue 13-Aug-13 19:44:37

Hi all, Toothfairy reporting for duty. Sir!

Can't believe how busy you've all been today!

yorkie that sound really distressing. FX that it's just a random thing and that it works out fine.

Just thought I'd share an update on eejit colleague that I shouted at a few weeks ago for telling me to "calm down". Had a lovely chat with another colleague who had to explain to him that what he said was condescending and patronising. Then he had to explain what those words meant! He's still ignoring me. Eesh, can't help some people!

Anyway, it has just dawned on my dept head that I'm going on mat leave just as a major factory transfer project will start. Erm, I didn't do it on purpose. Honest!

In baby news, tiny decided to have. squiggle while I walking home from the shops last night. It was tickly I nearly had to stop!

Sleepthief Tue 13-Aug-13 20:35:19

It's standard at Kings to have the anomaly scan at 22 weeks. HTH Toby.

MrsVDB Tue 13-Aug-13 20:38:51

This is quite interesting, shows ct scan of baby inside at 17 w


TobyLerone Tue 13-Aug-13 21:53:19

Thanks for the info, sultana & sleep smile
I am giving them until Friday and then I will call again.

sarahleanne Tue 13-Aug-13 22:01:41

hi everyone just marking my place.

MrABC Tue 13-Aug-13 22:57:43

Hi all. Just checking in...

Fingers crossed you get a date soon toby. I believe it's up until 22 weeks from what I've read.

Went to kiddicare at the weekend which was COMPLETELY overwhelming! How can there be so many different car seats and prams! Think it was a good starting point though and we've now managed to get a short list. Just need to go and try out the ones we are interested in now.

Fx for all those worrying at the moment. thanks

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 06:41:29

Did you go to the Lakeside one, MrA? Mad, isn't it?

Spacefrog35 Wed 14-Aug-13 07:26:14

Sending virtual hugs to yorkie, fingers crossed all is ok.

Welcome new people smile

Very jealous of everyone's dreams. My dreams are much more vivid at the mo but for the last 3 nights they've consisted of being licked on the face by a cow! Mmmmm lovely, wet slobbery cow kisses. Where's Jude Law when you need him wink

Mac2014 Wed 14-Aug-13 07:45:10

Marking my place.

Fx for everyone worrying and going through horrid times.

Good luck for all imminent scans (& hope dates turn up soon!!)

Waves at newbies!

sanityisamyth Wed 14-Aug-13 08:22:41

Checking in here too! Exactly 20 weeks today and have my scan on Monday - can't wait to find out if it's CESH or WJH in there!!

Can't believe how quickly it's gone TBH - doesn't seem that long ago I was on a beach in Barbados ;)

Hope everyone is happy and healthy and their pregnancies are going according to plan xxx

enormouse Wed 14-Aug-13 09:04:45

Hi all, New thread (wooo!)
I'm back to studying in the next week or so and am really excited. Am a bit stir crazy at home. Am almost 17 weeks and everything seems well.

Nice to some newbies! smile

dreams oh yes. Last night I dreamed DH and I went to NCT. It was a bit like a fete hmm with little stalls to teach you how to do baby laundry, how to paint with your child, jewellery making etc. <stop sniggering>

I couldn't make DH leave the iPad stall long enough to do our required 'one adult, one child' activity, and then I lost our daughter, and forgot her name (it may have been Hannah, although in the dream I didn't seem sure that was right), and ended up picking up a tiny weeny baby the size of a tiny doll instead, who did a strange hand-waving thing.

I am weird. grin

Penny31 Wed 14-Aug-13 09:50:02

Hi everyone,

Just reading the strange dreams and had to tell you the one I had last night! I gave birth to a huge baby with lots of hair and he was Chinese. Very cute, but me and my partner are both British. He was born very early and had to spend 12 months in hospital and they wouldn't let me take a picture of him. I woke up crying hysterically.

I found myself having a nose on the November thread yesterday and a lady on there had given birth to her baby boy at 27 weeks! I think my dream was somehow linked to that....

My heartburn is still really bad, I'm waking up in agony every 2 hours. The doctor gave me a bottle of something on Monday and its almost gone already and isn't workin at all. sad

Good luck for all the upcoming scans!

Mythreeknights Wed 14-Aug-13 09:55:36

Penny: wierd, I'd just found this article: www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2391879/Our-little-miracle-Baby-born-just-23-weeks-given-just-1-chance-survival-defies-doctors-expectations-live.html
Fingers crossed we keep ours inside until at least 30 weeks!

Penny31 Wed 14-Aug-13 10:12:23

Oh wow, little miracle!

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 10:18:48

I had rotten heartburn this morning. Someone on twitter said she swears by Love Hearts to ease heartburn! Gotta be worth a try, right? Far more delicious than Gaviscon grin

MrsGSR Wed 14-Aug-13 10:35:22

Love hearts?! I've been getting heartburn really bad when I lie down to sleep, have been using rennies but I'm not keen on the taste! Will have to try love hearts.

I've been having some strange dreams, mostly involving my mum, which is nice as I miss her a lot.

Penny31 Wed 14-Aug-13 11:29:26

I have been sucking love hearts. They may work temporarily. So far everything I have tried gives me relief for an hour and then the heartburn comes back! It smacking me really grumpy. Boooooo

Frizz1986 Wed 14-Aug-13 11:34:25

No heartburn here yet but had a horrific night sleep due to hip and thigh pain.
Woke up every hour to turn over in bed and my hips and thighs ache so much. Midwife gave me number of a physio at 16 week app so i could call to see what they offer (not sure if I would get referred or have to pay). Haven't phoned yet as wanted to wait until 20 week scan (a week fri) to make sure all is ok before wasting people's time.
Feel rather yuk today and had some cramps over night. Not for long so assume they are just stretching but am beyond worried about the scan. Just want it to be here. (even tho I know that there will be something else to worry about after that)

No weird dreams either, am feeling like I am not getting the full hilarious pg experience.

Looking proper fat at the mo although really it does look like a pg bump but think I look too big. Hoping that is a good sign for the scan as I shouldn't be growing this rapidly if bubs wasn't growing inside.
Really should be working but just wanted a quick catch up.

Good luck for any scans or results.

Doctorbrownbear Wed 14-Aug-13 15:02:32

Got my 20 week scan tomorrow... I am very excited (and nervous) I definatley want to find out the gender. It looks like there are alot of boys on the thread so far. I don't mind what I have, already have a DD, just want to know either way!

Doctorbrownbear Wed 14-Aug-13 15:05:21

Oh and I have evil heartburn too, a banana can cause some temporary relief as well as gallons of stuff from the doctors and rennies. Must try love hearts!

Mythreeknights Wed 14-Aug-13 15:07:02

It's wierd; this pg so far I've had no heartburn and no hip pain - things that plagued both my previous ones. Feeling lucky considering what you are all going through and delighted that last night I had a sex dream FINALLY about my husband (as opposed to random tradesmen). Whoppee :-)

Doctorbrownbear Wed 14-Aug-13 15:09:00

oh... and I have been having dreams... dreamt last night that I got drunk at my work party and was about to have sex with my friends son (he is 23 it's OK!) He realised I was pregnant and didn't want to know!

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 16:04:53

Finally got my scan date! It's next Weds 21st. Yay grin

Mythreeknights Wed 14-Aug-13 16:05:52

Ha! doctor someone else having sex dreams, brilliant! wink

MrsVDB Wed 14-Aug-13 16:34:14

Woo toby what a relief!

Yorkiedodah Wed 14-Aug-13 17:05:07

toby good news!

Thanks everyone for your support. Went to my GP today as got a call from mw who had rearranged it. Waited 30 mins past appt time but got to hear babys heartbeat grin grin very happy.

Had a dream I had sex with a woman yesterday night. lol. Woke up bursting for a wee too so explains the pressure I was feeling 'down there'. For once dp actually looked thoughtful while i told him what had happened! envy envy

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 14-Aug-13 17:49:49

Checking in too.

Glad to hear you got your appointment finally Toby

Sure I am having dreams, but not remembering them as dd2 has a cold and woke 4 times last night between midnight and 6am. I am a wreck.

Why is it they always get sick when you are on holiday? Last time we went away she got D&V. Made it to the seaside today, but it has rained all day here in Dorset, just my luck.

Still feeling lots of movement from the baby and dd1 held a starfish today, so life is not all bad smile

TarkaTheOtter Wed 14-Aug-13 18:31:40

Just checking in on the new thread!

yorkie just wanted to offer some reassurance as your bleed sounds very like mine at 11 weeks and although I bled (quite heavily) for a few days haven't had any bleeding since (now 18weeks).

Toothfairy78 Wed 14-Aug-13 18:35:12

Nice to hear you got your scan date toby. Yay, Same day as mine!

Just found out someone else at work is pg too due Christmas time. It's gonna be a very male office come winter with 6 out of 8 ladies out (3pg, 3 leaving). Imagine 2 women in an office of 45!

I have parked my car on DH side of the drive, as my space means the drivers door is next to a wall. Just trying it on for when I get too big. It'll be fun to see how confused he is when he gets home! grin

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 19:07:14

Glad to hear you got to hear the hb, yorkie smile That must have been lovely and reassuring for you.

BookTart Wed 14-Aug-13 19:25:44

A hb and sexy dreams yorkie? Blimey, things are looking up.

I've got my scan next Wednesday as well toby - all our nagging of the ultrasound department finally paid off grin!

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 19:28:45

Ha! I wonder if they'll be running almost 2 hours late again hmm

BookTart Wed 14-Aug-13 19:44:05

Best not be, or I will unleash my not-inconsiderable preggo rage!

sarahleanne Wed 14-Aug-13 20:28:55

I also have my scan next Wednesday toby , toothfairyand booktart
although I am keeping the gender a surprise for January grin

TobyLerone Wed 14-Aug-13 20:35:23

Same here, sarah smile I'm worried we'll find out by accident.

Toothfairy78 Wed 14-Aug-13 20:57:11

Yeah, we're letting it be a surprise. DH parents want us to find out and were dropping hints and DH was feeling a bit pressured. But we're agreed now and I just don't feel the need. It's not going to affect how we'll decorate the nursery or anything.

Mac2014 Wed 14-Aug-13 21:05:16

Yay toby glad you've got your date through.

frizz I've got my scan next Friday too. I'm doing the same and am holding off doing lots of things until after that. Just want to be certain all is ok!!

toby and book hurrah at last! Also, now you have hardly ANY waiting for it!
Mine is a week yesterday, and I feel like frizz, no idea why I'm worrying so much, but I am. I think it was not hearing the heartbeat at 16 weeks, I've felt in limbo ever since.

tarka your bleeding hasn't recurred has it? Also, I keep meaning to ask, are you a mw? You sound really knowledgeable when people have concerns.

Was v naughty today and took day off to go for lunch with a friend and then shopping with my stepmother-in-law (FIL's 2nd wife? Is that the right term?) - she is Russian and a DEMON shopper! Three hours and she was already £800 down - I was just there for the ride! It was ace fun though, and she very sweetly bought me a bottle of perfume.

sarahleanne Wed 14-Aug-13 21:12:13

tobyand toothfairy im glad i'm not the only one not finding out on that day grin and toby what I did at my last scan with second baby is when the sonographer scanned down the lower half of body we asked for warning and looked away. That way we knew that we wouldn't accidentally see something and then be convinced that we know.

SarahJayne321 Wed 14-Aug-13 22:00:59

Just checking in smile my scan is next Weds too, so many of us!

We're going to find out, if no legs are crossed that is...

Mac2014 Wed 14-Aug-13 22:07:28

We're not planning on finding out either. It will be something to think about other than it's health or the mind boggling pain I'm anticipating.

Also got the dates for our NCT through. They run from 29 - 38 wks for me, so i hope we finish before it arrives!

BuntCadger Thu 15-Aug-13 07:24:37

Lol at the sex dreams. I had lots when preg with dd but none this time around as yet. Off to France today and am very excited smile hope you all a a fab couple of weeks.
I'm still torn on finding out gender tbh as did with 1st 2 and 3rd had legs crossed so was a surprise.

BookTart Thu 15-Aug-13 08:08:36

Ooh, have a nice holiday bunt!
We aren't finding out either, DP is dead against it and I'm not fussed either way.
Still no movement here, which is starting to worry me a bit. I think the scan next week will be great, but I am a bit nervous about it!

extracrunchy Thu 15-Aug-13 08:51:04

Hi everyone! Just checking in to say hi after a bit of a disappearing act (things at home and loads of hectic stuff meant no time/energy to think about anything on top) - hope you've all been well!

We had 20 week scan yesterday, all good and definitely a girl. Feels good to be on the home strait! Though still feels like AGES...

Have you all started preparing in earnest?! I had a bizarre and intense weekend of nesting! Didn't have the urge with DS particularly, but this was compulsive! Have been given lots of little girl bits and sorted through reusable boy bits, and they're all washed, new chest of drawers bought, assembled and filled, cot's up, pump/sling etc out of the attic... Feel very organised, if a bit mental!

Also wondering... DS was a spring/summer baby so wasn't a huge issue, but keeping a newborn warm - are you all going with a heavy duty snowsuit or lots of layers?

TarkaTheOtter Thu 15-Aug-13 08:57:24

Haha humpty not a midwife just a self-confessed know-it-all. I was a (non-medical) researcher before my dd and have found it hard to switch off so tend to do loads of reading into things/ask my consultant about things. Also l seem to have quite complicated pregnancies.
No, luckily no more bleeding despite them saying they could see there was still blood at my 12 week scan. I guess my body must have reabsorbed it.

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 09:00:06

Snowsuits are quite annoying. They're kind of stiff and super padded and get in their faces when they're in the car seat etc. It's also hard to make sure they're cool enough when you're going in and out of shops and cars.

Layers are where it's at. I think we're going to get one of these instead of a snowsuit. Much easier to open to cool them down, and to get them in and out of.

TarkaTheOtter Thu 15-Aug-13 09:00:30

Wow extra that's incredibly organised. We recently got all our baby stuff down from the loft, cooed over the tiny baby clothes, got scared and shoved it all back up there.

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 09:04:09

I'd like to be more organised! My sister (who is giving us loads of baby clothes) has just been made redundant, so I'll have to get her to get all the stuff out so I can wash it and see what else we need to get.

After the scan I'll try to be more on top of things. New car is top of the agenda. We've been procrastinating, but it really needs to be done. If I want to order a brand new one, it could take 3 months, so we really ought to get on with it soon.

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 09:56:26

humpty not being able to tear your DH away from the iPad stall - that sounds about right! The iPad is coming with us to the spa - couldnt possibly be parted for 24 hours! grin

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:04:21

toby hurray! Finally a scan date! What a relief!!! How did the dentist go by the way?

Good luck for scans the rest of this week everyone! Fingers crossed all go well!

After walking round town for two hours yesterday, but the end my lower back was agony and I was wondering if I would make it back to the car. It was affecting my legs too and my walking. All seems ok today thankfully!

Also had really bad shooting pains in my right boob last nighy radiating out from my nipple. Really odd. Again none today....

Heartburn still starting around early evening and continuing over night....really annoying! Will try some love hearts instead of rennies....wink

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:06:51

Great stuff yorkie! So pleased things are settling down again. grin

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 10:08:45

Oh, the dentist was fine, thanks. In and out and back in the car within 5 minutes!

I know what you mean about the pains. I stood at the kitchen counter making a bit of a convoluted dinner the other night (vegetable cobbler), and it must have taken about an hour and a half by the time I'd double-podded the broad beans and made scones etc. I was almost crying by the end of it because my back hurt so much!

And I've totally had the boob pains too! I thought it was just me. It must be normal if we're both having it grin

Heartburn here too. Last night I took a Rennie Extra for the first time instead of normal Rennies, and they're VILE! I will get some Love Hearts later.

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:13:28

extra you are a girl after my own heart! We are starting to sort the nursery this weekend and hoping to start buying the furniture soon! Soooo excited! grin

Toby that star wrap looks awesome! I was having the snowsuit dilemma, so think the star wrap is the way forward! So cute too!grin

Penny31 Thu 15-Aug-13 10:17:37

Eeeek I thought I was too early to start on nursery but obviously not smile we bough paint yesterday and DP is off next week so is going to do all the painting smile haven't ordered the furniture yet though. Just need to clear the room out first of all. So exciting.

Have felt my baby move this morning like normal. I suppose 22 weeks is still early days for very regular movement??

Penny31 Thu 15-Aug-13 10:18:11

toby that star wrap looks so cute and snugly! What a fab idea

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 10:19:56

I know! I saw it on another thread and it looked so much better than a snowsuit. I remember vividly trying to wrestle DS (October baby) into and out of snowsuits and it wasn't fun!

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:26:12

toby glad the dentist went well! If you can do it, I can do it! wink

Yeah the shooting pains are weird but nice to hear you are getting them too. smile

I can absolutely imagine how much pain you must have been in. The walk back to the car had a slight incline and it was just unbearable. Then got stuck in traffic for two hours and when I finally got out of the car I was so stiff I was walking like I was 100 years old! blush

I so wish we could replace my car but think it will have to last us a few more years....think it will turn into a money pit at some point though....

VeryHappyMama Thu 15-Aug-13 10:27:25

Hello haven't posted for a while can't keep up lol.
Had an amnio last week rapid results came back clear and it's a boy smile
Can't wait for my 20 weeks scan now though have ages yet. Was sad to find they don't listen for the heartbeat at 16weeks anymore but I have a Doppler so I guess it's not too bad.
Fx for everyone with concerns

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:29:59

penny I am 21 weeks tomorrow and have still only felt the very odd movement, certainly not every day, although the fact my placenta is at the front will be cushioning a lot of it at the moment which is disappointing. So pleased I have the doppler to keep me sane until I start actually feeling proper movements! grin

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:30:42

Yay congrats happymama! grin

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 10:50:49

Great news, Happymama!

Re movement, I had loads over the weekend. DH managed to feel it from the outside a couple of times. And then quieter (although still there, but I'm only noticing it because I'm looking for it) for the last few days. It's normal at this sort of stage. I believe it's usually around 24 weeks they expect you to notice it every day, and that it's something to get checked out if you don't.

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 10:57:18

24 weeks doesnt seem very far away when am barely feeling anything at 21. I can see this being the new worry in the coming weeks....hmm

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 11:09:14

It doesn't, but a week ago I still wasn't sure if what I was feeling was actual movement. Now DH can occasionally feel it from outside.

And I don't know if the 24 week thing counts with an anterior placenta.

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 11:24:49

Well I have midwife again in 4 weeks and have the doppler for reassurance, so will see what happens. Maybe will be pleasantly surprised....grin Not stressing just yet and I guess it gives me something to really look forward to. grin grin grin

Penny31 Thu 15-Aug-13 11:42:46

I also have an anterior high placenta, that might explain it! My midwife appointment is also in 4 weeks time and I've been using my Doppler smile

Tarka well you sound v knowledgeable! grin

star wraps MASSIVE SQUEEEEE! They are gorgeous. I am taking snow suit off the list to buy and putting that on.
We have a few odd clothes, and a changing bag, so far. Nothing else - trying not to accumulate too much until we move.

So - question:
Properly supportive/cushioned sole shoes. My feet are in AGONY today - I only wear flats anyway, but I wondered if there were any recommendations of shoes that support/cushion the feet? I feel like I've been running barefoot on concrete, it's a pressure kind of ache. I know the shoes I usually wear aren't that cushiony (cheap ballet flats/flip flops/converse), so any thoughts, ladies? Please don't say trainers, as I really can't bear to wear them to work - I live in skirts/dresses and LOATHE trainers with them.

sultana I am 20wks tomorrow, pretty sure I don't have an anterior placenta, and pretty sure I've not felt anything either! Maybe not reassuring, but at least you are not alone.

enormouse Thu 15-Aug-13 12:01:45

humpty what about fitflops? I also love Dr martens boots as they have a lovely cushioned sole. I can't wait for Autumn so I can wear them again.

curlywurlyllass Thu 15-Aug-13 12:07:40

Thanks those who wished me luck on the last thread
Amnio failed yesterday after consultant tried a few times with each needle-was very sore sad
Waiting for them to get echo tip needles to do another tomorrow--posted on the testing forum--
Feeling very scared n stressed and petrified of the now doubled chance of m/c
good to hear of those with positive amnio results-but i just know i will be THE ONE that gets the sad results so trying to prep for worst case scenario

Yorkie hope you have no more scares

Good luck to all those with scans coming up and congrats to those with happy pink/blue news

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 12:10:37

Oh, curly, I'm so sorry you're having such a worrying time. Good luck for tomorrow, and rest! flowers

Frizz1986 Thu 15-Aug-13 12:51:24

Good luck for those who have had good results and yay for scan dates finally coming through.

Sorry your still in a worrying place curly Got my fx that all is ok and try not to overly worry yourself!

Still not sure of movement at this end (18 + 6 today)
Keep thinking i feel wiggles when i relax on the sofa at about 8-9pm, so I am led out like a look every night now to try and see if i can feel it again! Not sure if it is movement but scan is next Friday so hoping that will put my mind at rest. Had a massive crying breakdown last night with all the worrying about the scan. There is no reason I should be concerned but its that not knowing at the moment.

More experienced ladies, when did you feel your first baby properly move and know it was the baby?? Have thought I have felt wiggles for the past 3 weeks here and there but still not sure, I assumed that I would at least know if i was feeling something at this point, again I guess I am just worrying over nothing.

Had some crazy dreams last night which included my house being broken into and burgled and I woke up sweating buckets!!!
Would def rather get some of these sexy dreams you lot seem to be having smile

Yorkiedodah Thu 15-Aug-13 12:53:09

Curly sorry for all the worry your going through. All my best for 2moro x

Naturegirl82 Thu 15-Aug-13 12:53:36

Flying visit, sorry to hear your news curly fx everything turns out ok.

We now have a ton of baby stuff, nearly everything we need thanks to my dsis. Just need to wash and sort it all.

So I just had my 18 week appointment. Very quick but I'm having no problems so not a surprise but she did listen for heartbeat which we heard and a few kicks. grin Just a few weeks till scan now yippee.

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 12:55:04

Snap penny! grin

Sultanajo Thu 15-Aug-13 13:01:35

curly huge virtual hugs! So sorry you are having so much stress! You must be beside yourself. sad Will keep everything tightly crossed for you for tomorrow and then your results. thanks

humpty how about Hush Puppies? They are meant to be soft and cushioned.....some are a little bit "old ladyish" but I have seen some quite funky ones too....

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 13:04:38

Frizz, it's a long time since I had my first baby (he's almost 14!), but I am almost certain I didn't feel movement until just before my 20-week scan.

MrsVDB Thu 15-Aug-13 13:29:33

toby we've just ordered a new golf which is actually bigger than it looks, good reviews and fuel efficient

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 13:43:11

Oh, MrsV, if only we could get away with a Golf envy

I am yet to find a car, any car (including 4x4s), which will fit 2 teenagers and a child seat across the back. We've tried. I drive a Fabia at the moment, which I adore, and I can get 3 adults easily and (relatively) comfortably in the back. 2 teens and a baby seat? No chance!
And not to mention the Stokke Xplory, which isn't exactly small and portable...

So it's 7 seats for us. And a great big NO to people carriers or anything of the sort (including the Ford S-Max everyone seems to think will be the one which changes my mind!)
Which leaves us with not a lot. I realise I'm limiting myself slightly grin
And that's not to mention the other list of requirements I have (NO automatics, no leather seats, iPod connectivity...).
I'm waiting on callbacks from a couple of dealers who sell 7-seat 4x4s, but who don't seem to hold any in stock which are manual. I can't find one to test drive at all.

Woe is me grin

babycakemumma Thu 15-Aug-13 14:28:52

Hi, room for another? I'm expecting number five on 15th January. We're team yellow!

Saw the mw this morning and heard baby's heartbeat. grin All seems ok. 2 weeks until my 20 week scan.

Look forward to chatting.

enormouse Thu 15-Aug-13 14:56:34

Ooh I'd love a golf. DPs sis is refusing to sell her fiesta to me so it's back to the car search (fiesta would be a wee bit small anyway). I'm thinking a golf, ford focus or skoda fabia. Having another lesson tonight and I'm enjoying driving again, I feel comfortable with my instructor who isn't a complete tosspiece.

frizz I don't think I felt movement till 5 ish months.

Thinking of you curly

hi babycake and welcome. smile

Hope everyone's scans and appointments are going well.

Things are going suspiciously well here. Got my asda delivery and my subs were all lovely, essentially upgrades of things I wanted. Toddlermouse took his first nap in weeks so I put my feet up and had a cup of tea. My phone which had been on the blink for the last week has been fixed and university of ulster got back to me saying that they may accept my qualifications after all.

It's all a bit spooky.

hi all, wrote a big old post earlier which failed. Boo.

We're having pretty regular pokes now, once or twice a day. Starting to feel more like tiny kicks than wriggles, I think.

Second scan on the 2nd sept - we'll be keeping the sex a surprise, so no peeking for us!

I'm procrastinating a lot about buying things, as we're moving house. However, we might not move for another few months, which will mean that we don't leave a lot of time. Might need to pull my head out of the sand a bit...

oh, and yay enormouse! I love good days smile

MrsRApilot Thu 15-Aug-13 15:28:55

Our puppy has smashed her leg and they've been undecided about whether surgery is a feasible option so i've only had a quick skim but toby I have an S class merc and can comfortably fit 2 adults in the back alongside DD's very large car seat (cybes pallas). I have the long wheel based version and it is absolutely mahoosive in the back. 2nd hand you can pick them up for really reasonable money so def worth a look if you're struggling to find one. DH has a lexus ls400 and it also will fit three in the back easily but cars wide enough are getting harder to find as everyone wants compact.

Will be back on later ladies for a proper look - hope everyone is doing well. Heading down to vets now - wish me well!

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 15:43:59

Aw, thanks, MrsR. I just can't see me driving such a grown up car! It's lovely, though smile

I'm sorry to hear about your puppy sad How did that happen? Good luck at the vets!

toby the qashqai (sp?) +2 is a seven seater that doesn't make your eyes bleed?

Buying a car is such a nightmare. My partner just bought a 3 door ford ka in January, but we're just going to squeeze! (I have a proper size car, so it's not a massive problem, except he does afternon pick ups so it will need to fit two car seats in somehow...)

Sorry about the puppy MrsRApilot, poor little mite sad

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 16:52:39

I'm actually waiting for my local Nissan dealer to get a Qashqai +2 in for me to look at. I went there a few weeks ago, and they had a million Qashqais and no 7-seaters. Apparently they're so popular at the moment that they don't manage to keep them in stock any longer than about a day!
They emailed me the other day to say they'll be getting one in in a couple of weeks if I was still interested in looking at one. So it's definitely on the list, and more like the sort of thing I'm after, thanks smile

I had a Ford Ka for years with 2 small children. It was a bit of a pita sometimes, but definitely manageable.

MrsAVB Thu 15-Aug-13 17:33:24

Hi all..
Am going to have a rant, (featuring lists) apologies in advance.
I am SICK of people giving me grief/ having to have a long boring conversation where the other person pities me about the following:
1) bringing up a baby in London
2) living in a 1bedroom flat for the next year
3) renting not owning
4) not owning a car
I consider myself very fortunate in my circumstances; DH and I could change any of the above if we wanted to, we are both in good jobs, it's not a money issue, this is how we choose to live and what suits our circumstances. And then people give a patronising "oh... you'll soon change your mind when baby comes along" comment. Well, yes, we might, but I don't consider myself to be missing out because of any of the above. Everyone I tell I'm pregnant wants to talk about these things and its none of their damn business!
My boss is doing my head in too.
She is badgering me daily for handover notes/ plans, despite the fact I won't be going til mid- December. She seems to think I have nothing else to do, and the fact that around 20% of my job will be covered by someone on a much much lower grade and the rest by someone new, means that for a lot of tasks I need to produce a dummy's guide style doc. And I need to leave everything in a really good state before I go.
Still no mat policy, no RA, and she has said things like "oh you should wear something that makes you look less pg when X client is in", and "there's no point in you doing X training as you won't be here", and "so what you're telling me is you're going to need a considerable amount of time off (for antenatal appointments) -no else does for medical appointments" I could really get them for pg discrimination if I was minded to.
Anyway sorry for ranting when some of you have much more serious stuff going on. curly FX for the echo tip needles, will be thinking of you tomorrow. Hope you manage to get some rest tonight.
humpty, I think next do some pump type shoes with extra support in the soles, similar to the fit flop idea, not tried them though. M&s foot glove shoes are v comfy but 99% of the designs are only suitable for over 80s, I do have some comfy black heels though. Birkenstocks are good but still have quite hard soles, so depends on if its the sole hardness or thickness in relation to pavement etc that's making your feet sore, if that makes sense.
Sorry for mammoth post!

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 17:44:49

Oh, MrsA sad Sorry you're having a hard time.

We would absolutely be bringing up this baby in London if DS weren't already at a really good grammar school. DH works in central London and it makes sense, but I really don't want to move DS. When he leaves school in 5 years, we'll probably move then. So we'll be bringing up a small child in London, including trying to find a decent school place. And I dread to think what everyone will say. I'm sure they'll all have to give their opinions!

We also have one fewer bedroom than we need, with nowhere to put the baby. We were supposed to be moving this year and everyone keeps banging on about it. We will likely be here for at least the next year and everyone who has a problem with that can BLOW ME!

I can't believe your boss is trying to tell you what to wear! shock
I'm pretty sure they're not allowed to stop you having training because you're going on maternity leave, and she is absolutely not allowed to give you a hard time for needing time off for appointments. I don't know who you can contact to complain about that, but there has to be some kind of comeback for that, even in really small companies with no HR department.

MrsA JESUS WEPT, you totally should be doing them for pg discrimination. Christ on a bike, what a total cuntpuffin!
"so what you're telling me is you're going to need a considerable amount of time off (for antenatal appointments) -no else does for medical appointments" - they're NOT MEDICAL appointments, they're ANTE-FUCKING-NATAL ones, dickhead. I'm not SICK, I'm pg, and this is what I have to do to have a healthy baby so, as toby so eloquently says: BLOW ME. Or, you could pick an NCT class that's during the day and force her to give you that time off as well (she has to grin). Then explain you would have gone to evening ones, but for her attitude.

And as for the training one, that's blatant discrimination. I am appalled and so angry on your behalf. Do you belong to a union? Can you contact CAB for help? I would not let that stand, sorry. Utterly unreasonable. A few well placed 'I BEG your pardon's and 'Did you mean to be so unreasonable/rude/discriminatory' might help too.

As for the other ones, fuck 'em. You do it your way, they can go jump. No one will EVER agree 100% with your way, but that's why you're not them...

Frizz1986 Thu 15-Aug-13 18:53:22

mrsa how very rude and awful. I wouldnt stand for that sort of crap. You should def investigate complaning and such!!
And you can live and do what you want. As long as baby is happy and fed etc then it really doesnt matter.

mrsa a golf is my dream car. My dad has one and i want it. I currently have a crappy, always breaking, far too much wrong with it 52 plate fiesta which will be got rid of (prob cant even sell it as its that rubbish a car) come mat leave and we will be surviving with dhs small 3 door clio. Would love to get a bigger car (was looking at a kia ceed as pretty decent size and 7 year warranty) but with dh out of work now we will be lucky if we can even afford to keep the clio let along get something bigger. We will cope i am sure, just a bit concerned as bubs will end up sat by our crazy westie as the buggy fills the entire boot! All luggage, shopping etc will have to go in footwells.

toby i know u dont want a people carrier but my sister has a vauxhall zafira and loves it. She has 2 teen stepsons (18 and 16yr olds), a 3 1/2 yr old and a 6ft something husband (her step sons are tall too) and it fits them in well. I dont think it looks too massive either. She got a second hand one in good condition for just around 6k I think so it suited them well.

1 week tomorrow until my scan and I cant wait!! (She says through the sheer nerves)

I do think it's amazing that people haven't got the imagination to accept that children can grow up and do very well in anything other than a 2.4 children, leafy suburb magazine life.

Go back one or two generations and one bedroom per child was unheard of, and London is our capital city - why on earth wouldn't you live there?


Also, your boss is not only being an arse, but a discriminatory arse. They would do well to have it pointed out to then sooner rather than later, i.e. before they get sued!

TobyLerone Thu 15-Aug-13 19:24:43

Yep, still don't want a people carrier grin

Penny31 Thu 15-Aug-13 20:30:15

I have a Golf and really love it. It's nippy and has plenty of room for buggy etc. it's my house that's the problem! It's teeny, I think we will manage for the first 6-8 months while I'm on maternity but I'm hoping to move after that. At least my mortgage is small and manageable while I'm off I suppose smile

MrsRApilot Thu 15-Aug-13 23:05:01

Gosh mrsa your boss sound terrible and as for living in London why on earth is it anyone elses buisness. Babies are extremely tiny and don't need their own room. Plus there are lots of parks etc with loads of space for them to run about as they get bigger.

toby Your comment about a grown up car made me giggle. I'm 26 and quite short. I look absolutely ridiculous driving it but it's so comfy :-D

Our pup was playing (hyper puppy) and jumped up to catch a toy and landed awkwardly on her back leg. Specialist vet orthopedic surgeon has said he is happy to operate as our own vets won't/can't. He said she would hopefully get to about 5 or 6 before she gets arthritis/pain from it so at least she'll still have a few good years of living. She's getting it pinned on Monday and we're on holiday so it's a blooming nightmare trying to liaise with vets/kennels. But anyway, could be much worse.

Hope the amnio goes ok tomorrow curly will be thinking of you

humpty I'mhaving problems with foot pain as well and at the minute the only shoes I can stand to wear are crocs which look ridiculous. I also could wear uggs but I refuse on principle to wear them in the summer. I don't actually particularly like the look of either shoe but I have stupidly broad feet and, even though they don't look swollen, they won't fit into my converse or pumps atm. Not good.

I'm 19 weeks and only feeling tiny flutters and of course panicking massively about it so it's good to here there are other people in the same boat. Hopefully proper kicks will start for us soon!

I have an anomaly scan on Saturday so ridiculously worried and feeling sick looking forward to that. Will be good to see Alexander again :-)

MrsGSR Thu 15-Aug-13 23:42:16

flowers curly

humpty I bought some memory foam insoles from the £1 store, they are amazing and I can move them between shoes so I'm comfortable and still have loads of choice smile

I can't remember what else had been said, I don't even know why I'm up this late! We have a gender scan booked for next week (we weren't finding out, but now DH really wants to!) and I bought a doppler, which I said I wouldn't but then gave in!

MrsVDB Fri 16-Aug-13 07:11:45

Good luck today curly

I had an awful dream last night. I was with my parents and I could feel the baby moving and my whole tummy was vibrating so I put my hand on it to see if I could feel it from outside and a foot pushed against it so you could see it through my skin but it was huge and green. I said I didn't like it so my mum put her hand there then a couple of seconds later the baby just fell out of me. No blood and no pushing. It had the placenta attached but baby was green and dead. I thought about CPR but decided it was too early. My mum put it in the fridge. Then when we took it out the fridge to look she bought out the chicken as well as she couldn't tell what was baby and what was for the roast. Sounds funny but it was awful.

MrsV you poor thing, that's horrid. I dreamt last night that I was about to go to prison, and I had to pack hmm. I kept saying that it wasn't fair, and I'd much rather go to Thorpe Park, but noone was listening. I hope I'm not prophetic grin.

So: Birkentocks, Hush Puppies, memory foam insoles, Next pumps, M&S footglove (shamefully I already have a pair of nan sandals, which are BLISS), DMs. Thank you ladies, those are all much better than trainers. I shall get investigating.

MrsAVB Fri 16-Aug-13 08:46:59

Oh mrsv what a horrible dream! I had what I thought was a rom-com style dream where I got the guy at the end, but on reflection it seems it was more like an adult game of kiss chase as two of my friends were chasing the same guy round a room. Still, I got the guy! No sexy stuff though, just cuddling, damn alarm!
curly lots of love and positive vibes today.

TobyLerone Fri 16-Aug-13 08:51:32

MrsR, I'm 35 and should probably grow up soon, but I just don't want to! Good luck for your scan.

Thinking of you today, curly flowers

MrsV, that sounds horrendous! You poor thing sad

curly good luck for today. We're all thinking of you, and here if you need us.

lovelilies Fri 16-Aug-13 16:34:05

Hope you're ok curly thanks

I've just bought a load of maternity things on eBay, a dress, jeans, 3x leggings, and 3 tops for £48 so quite chuffed smile normal clothes just so uncomfortable now that bump is growing by the day, I'll be the size of a house by January!! cant wait to go on maternity leave... only 17 weeks to go sad

TobyLerone Fri 16-Aug-13 16:36:53

Maternity leggings are AWESOME. Even though sometimes I have to tuck them in my bra to make them stay up grin

MrsAVB Fri 16-Aug-13 16:54:55

Haha toby I was thinking the other day about inventing some kind of braces/ suspenders for attaching tights/ leggings/ trousers that won't stay up to my bra. But I think all it would achieve would be pulling my boobs downwards. Which is not needed.

I've been called massive by two colleagues today, and DP told me I was 'much bigger this time round', with a bit of a head tilt yesterday. Maternity clothes all round here.

I may well kill the next person who comments on my enormous bulk, however.

flowers for curly - hope all's well.

Toothfairy78 Fri 16-Aug-13 17:03:28

Happy Friday Folks!

Soooo, foot pain eh? Been there!

I have a few sets of orthotic insoles which I use. They support my feet and I have ones that go in slim shoes and ones that go in trainers/boots. I have 2 sets of custom ones which I love but I also have some off the shelf slim 3/4 ones from Footmedics which work really well and fit discreetly in most shoes. For high heels Scholls do some really good ones that make heels bearable!

Obviously get some advice first, but generally if your foot is aligned/supported correctly you won 't need cushioning. In fact cushioning can make it worse by introducing instability to your feet.

Here endeth the sermon!

Toothfairy78 Fri 16-Aug-13 17:10:06

Oh, and I just wanted to send a supportive hug to curly.

Also, if anyone is experiencing comments about being big/massive/huge, just tell them to go fuck themselves! How rude of them!

Toothfairy78 Fri 16-Aug-13 17:20:12

MrsAVB there's these things called BellyUps which are like those clips on strap for holding bed sheets in place. They clip onto your bra and your waistband. Unfortunately only sold in the USA sad

Frizz1986 Fri 16-Aug-13 18:00:21

I have 2 pairs of mat leggings as my sister said they were a must as can just pair them with big tops but my bump is not big enough to keep them up yet sad

Very glad it's Friday! Am getting my hair chopped off tomorrow and so am hoping that my energy levels have gone up enough to be bothered about straightening it every day.

Def getting a bubble feeling in my belly every now and then. Hoping it's baby finally saying hello but possible just gas lol.

Only a week until the scan tho so not too long to wait to see how all is going.

Hope everyone has a fun weekend planned!!

TobyLerone Fri 16-Aug-13 18:09:35

My bump is fairly big, but most of that is sadly not baby! It does make me wonder what will happen when the baby and other malarkey run out of room upwards. The top of my uterus is already about an inch above my belly button. I'm only 5'3"!

My underbump maternity jeans are still annoyingly slidey-down, but the overbump ones are fine because if they start slipping down I just tuck them under the underwires of my bra grin

Hope it's movement, Frizz. It's very exciting!

extracrunchy Fri 16-Aug-13 19:31:27

Curly hope today was ok. Thinking of you x

Sultanajo Fri 16-Aug-13 22:30:09

curly keeping everything crossed it all went well for you today....

mrsra hope you get your pupster sorted quickly - these things always happen when you are about to go on holiday!,

toby cant remember if this one has been mentioned, but there is a new 7 seater Kia that doesnt look like a people carrier from the picture I saw this morning in the magazine....

Soooo am back from a blissful spa break and even managed to stay awake going out for a lush indian meal this evening. Gutted its back to reality now. Spent half our time there in the pool, the rest of it spent eating yummy food and chilling out! 1.5 days was not enough! wink

Got back tonight worried I had overdone the pool activities so got the comfort blanket doppler out and straight away heard the heartbeat and lots of movement (wish I could feel it) so can go to bed happy and pray the heartburn doesnt ramp up after the raw onion and Indian! hmm

TobyLerone Fri 16-Aug-13 22:45:53

The new 7-seat Kia (Carenza or something I think) is basically a Ford S-Max. Still too people carriery for my liking! I am waiting for them to get a manual version of their big 7-seat 4x4 in for me to test drive but they're taking their time!

Glad you had a lovely break, sultana smile

curly, I hope it went ok today flowers

MrsVDB Fri 16-Aug-13 23:00:04

toby we had that 7 seated qashqai as a rented car for a few days, wasn't too comfy but was big. We've got a Renault scenic estate at the moment while we wait for golf and its actually a lot nicer than it sounds. It's huge in the back and very kid friendly as well as lots of gadgets. Might be worth a look

TobyLerone Fri 16-Aug-13 23:08:59

Renault is a definite no for me. I loathe them!

Still waiting for the Qashqai to come in so I can look at it. I'll definitely bear the comfort thing in mind, thanks!

Toothfairy78 Fri 16-Aug-13 23:42:21

OMG guys my belly button's starting to feel shallow!

TobyLerone Sat 17-Aug-13 05:42:07

Ha! Mine too. And more on one side than the other, oddly.

Sultanajo Sat 17-Aug-13 09:02:56

Lol! You just made me poke about in mine too and yep, shallow here too! Ekkk! grin

Toothfairy78 Sat 17-Aug-13 10:25:57

Of all the weird shit that's been happening to my body so far, this has got to be the most freaky!

Inny or outy could be the next new thing on the vital stats list grin

Any reckoning on how many weeks before it pops out?

extracrunchy Sat 17-Aug-13 10:43:10

Speaking if weird shit - first timers, if you're moisturising to avoid stretch marks DON'T FORGET INNER THIGHS! Seriously - I did last time, and the ones I have there are by far the worst. Like deep ridgy scars! And was no sign of them till about 2 weeks after birth when they were suddenly really extreme!

BookTart Sat 17-Aug-13 10:43:13

Mine's pretty close tooth, but it varies depending on the trapped wind situation grin. I'll be surprised if it hasn't popped in the next fortnight though. DP is totally freaked out by the idea, which is a bit annoying!

Ooh, mine's shallow too! Always had a v deep inny, that's reassuring! Something is happening, even if I don't really have a bump still and still don't think I've felt movement (had some flutters last night, followed by a resounding fart, so think it may have been a false alarm grin)

Off to a wedding today, v glad I have a maxi dress to wear, it's practically gale force winds outside! Hair up, I think...
I also have a fantastic pedicure (went to a place in Spitalfields last night, can highly recommend) and nails to match, feel the most glam I have since getting pg. Is family wedding, so this is essential - close family are ace, my Dad's brother is a dick, the groom is worse, so I need armour!

curly still thinking of you, hoping all went okay.

enormouse Sat 17-Aug-13 12:46:24

Hope you have a great day humpty , you sound very glam.

My belly button is getting very shallow too and I'm getting proper movements in there, which DP can feel too. Very exciting as I was starting to think there was nothing in there.

Ergh, I do need to rant. I love my DP but my God he is lazy. He needs to take his driving test too but we decided I'd go first as I'm closer to passing than him and have a very determined nature. He has now decided that as he's going to do his post grad he can just take the train straight to the campus and off learning for a YEAR or two. The station is about half an hour away from where we live with an extremely unreliable crap bus service.
'Oh, you or mum can drop me off there and pick me up again, mouse'. This would involve leaving at 7.30 in the morning and 5.30ish in the evening. So before breakfast and disrupting dinner/bath/bed. I'll need to point this out to him again I think.

It seems I've been booked as a taxi service before I've even passed my test. hmm. No pressure.

AnotherStitchInTime Sat 17-Aug-13 12:56:43

Sorry to hear about your puppy MrsRA. My BIL's bullmastiff broke his leg as a puppy, he had it pinned and a cage to stretch it. He walks with a slight limp and they have to watch his weight, but he is 9 now and still going strong.

Have a good time at the wedding Humpty smile

Maternity clothes and a mahoosive bump at only 16 weeks here. I have to wear a belt on my overbump jeans to stop them sliding, but maternity leggings and tops are doing it for me.

Backs from hols now, it took 8 bloody hours to drive back from Dorset yesterday confused.

itsonlyapapermoon Sat 17-Aug-13 13:01:14

Hi ladies! Haven't posted in awhile but just jumping on to say we found out on Tuesday that we're having a little boy! Over the moon! DD5 was a bit put out until I explained that it makes her extra special now as she's the only girl lolsmile The boys are thrilled! As I type he's kicking away and even DH has felt him now!

Sultanajo Sat 17-Aug-13 13:01:43

extra thanks for the tip!!! Ekkk!

You ladies are cracking me up with the freaky shit! Mine is normally a deep inny too humpty & am still feeling the odd thing now and again which must be bubs moving, but I still dont have that "well that was definitely bubs moving" feeling and definitely no chance of feeling anything from the outside yet.... Hope u have a fab day and shake your glam ass on the dancefloor!!! grin

enormouse grrr thats not on! I would be really miffed! Think u need to explain the realities of the situation to him....sad

Feeling really virtuous as despite it blowing a gale and threatening to piss down with rain, DH and I walked to the shops and post office rather than driving. My god my thighs were itching by the tip we got there and sweated my way back, but feel really good for an hours walk and some fresh air!

Got to tackle the mountain of crap bits and bobs and paperwork that we have been dumping storing in the spare room/nursery. Will be awesome once it is done, but currently procrastinating....wink

Sultanajo Sat 17-Aug-13 13:05:44

another omg 8 hours!!! Thought it was bad enough being stuck in traffic the other day for 2!

papermoon yay another boy and great you are feeling lots of kicking!!! grin

TobyLerone Sat 17-Aug-13 14:47:17

enormouse, I take DH to the station every morning at 7.15am and collect him again at 6.15pm. It's not so bad really, and it means we don't have to run 2 cars/pay £5 per day station parking. But then again the station is only about a 10-minute drive away, so much less hassle than half an hour.

Hope you have a lovely time, glam Humpty!

Congrats, Paper. Boys are awesome!

We have definitely, definitely decided not to find out the sex of the baby on Wednesday.

Re belly buttons, mine never popped out in either pregnancy so far. I still wore a piercing in my navel until the day I was induced with DC1. But this time I have a feeling it'll be right out, which makes me sad. It's almost flat on one side.

babycakemumma Sat 17-Aug-13 14:57:56

My belly button is doing ok. It always goes flat but never pops inside out.

Talking 7 seaters we have a C4 grand Picasso, we love it.

Frizz1986 Sat 17-Aug-13 15:59:17

I didnt think my belly bttuon had really changed that much but after mentioning to dh he turned round and said when he poked me in the belly button the other day he thought it was shallower!
Just had a lovely hour long nap in front of the tv after getting my hair chopped off this morning and i am almost convinced that i felt something kicking away in there.
I dont want ro believe it just yet in case i get bad news on friday at the scan and then ill wonder what the hell ive been feeling lol.
Going to go and make me and dh a oovely hot chocolate in this miserable weather.

Congrats on the boy paper
What are we on now?? I have lost track of who is having what!

Naturegirl82 Sat 17-Aug-13 16:39:41

Congrats to those that have found out what you are having. I'm very jealous but still got my resolve to not find out.

I had to go and check my belly button after all the talk and think mine is shallower. I hate touching inside my belly button though so not sure.

I hope the pup is ok mrsra must be worrying for you.

Dh and I were meant to he tackling a lot in the house today. He was good and did a tip run and I had a four hour nap! Oops. Not as productive as I would have hoped.

Puppy has settled in really well. Love having her. Although she has mastered the stairs today so may have to get a stair gate!

I'm sure that I've been feeling bubs move. Some days lots but none so far today. Still 2 weeks until my scan.

Have a fab time at the wedding humpty you sound very glam. Hoping I can pull off the same thing at the end of the month.

Hope everyone else is having a fab Saturday. smile

Penny31 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:00:05

Oooooo we ordered a Moses basket today! So exciting smile also bought some sleepsuits and little cardy smile trying to do a bit at a time to spread the cost but at this rate I will be sorted by the time I am at the end of my second trimester! Must restrain myself otherwise the next 4 months will really drag!

Hope everyone is having a nice relaxing day, the weather is rubbish and makes me want to hibernate.

Penny31 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:01:03

Re belly buttons, mine stings a lot. Sometimes it is shallower but usually only after I have stuffed m face!

Sultanajo Sat 17-Aug-13 19:38:12

Get you lot napping away! wink I nearly napped but always feel worse afterwards so I made myself start sorting paperwork. 3 hours later and have got through two thirds of it, but started feeling super nauseous with horrendous heartburn - just like in the first trimester! Then got worried in case I had squished bubs too much with the way I was sitting, so promptly cried and got the doppler out! Heartbeat there so now feeling a bit better about things. Feeling super stressed all of a sudden. Was feeling really chilled yesterday! Hoping a good nights sleep will sort me out.

Got to brave ikea tomorrow and find DH a suit, plus lunch out with my mum and dad. Its gonna be another packed day!

penny how exciting! I know what you mean about pacing yourself! Such a temptation to get it all now! grin Am hoping DH will paint the nursery tomorrow and then I can start cot shopping! I realise he isnt gonna need that straight away, but I just want it all to be ready! grin Am hoping to take my mum with me rather than DH so we can take our time browsing, rather than rushing around! Although I am going to drag DH to the baby department in John Lewis tomorrow (if I can find the energy) so I can show him all the cute things I have seen. grin grin grin

Penny31 Sat 17-Aug-13 19:48:30

sultana my DP is painting our nursery next week smile I will order the furniture in September because its expensive and I could do with another payday first smile I need to have somewhere to put away all of the stuff I am accumulating!

I will probably order the pram in September too.

Sultanajo Sat 17-Aug-13 19:58:32

Its so exciting penny! I expect I too will have to wait until next pay day, but at least if I can get my fix by choosing the stuff I want then its still exciting!

Think I have also narrowed down the choice of slings/baby carriers. Between the caboo dx and the Stokke mycarrier....need to try them both....grin

sarahleanne Sat 17-Aug-13 21:01:53

I have just showed DH your posts just to PROVE that napping in pregnancy is totally normal grin he keeps calling me lazy (in a jokey way).

I think I have also chosen my pram, a Gracco Trekko duo stroller sport in Black. I basically chose it because I saw it in toys r us and it seems light and manoeuvrable, and trying to decide on a pram is pissing me off now so i'm just going to go for that one.

my 20 month old decided to launch herself onto my stomach earlier and have a little bounce on her bum whilst I was singing ' the wheels on the bus', she's so cute I couldn't bring myself to chuck her off grin

is anyone else suffering from SPD already? I saw a few posts somewhere saying hoe they were like 16 weeks with SPD and I thought nooo surely not, then the last few days I can feel it coming on in the evenings...great!! I'll never make it to 36 weeks at work now, i'll be bloody lucky to make it to 30 weeks (had bad spd last time).MOAN OVER.

glad a few more of you are feeling kicks now, so exciting.19 weeks on Monday,hurry up scan.

MrsGSR Sat 17-Aug-13 21:02:07

I haven't noticed a difference in my belly button yet (although I've recent realised DH always had fluff in his!)

MIL and sister are very excited about the scan on Tuesday. I'm panicking about it, but for no reason!

Wedding was lush, thank you all. The maxi was this Asos one which I can HIGHLY recommend. Gives excellent boobage, glam enough, and stretchy like nothing else, so comfy! Wore with gold sandals, and a pashmina.

Too tired now for more, will catch up tomorrow. Hope all well with everyone.

MrsGSR Sun 18-Aug-13 07:27:31

Glad you enjoyed the wedding humpty

My left shoulder is killing me. I don't remember injuring it. I took a paracetamol last night and was able to sleep but the pain woke me up about 6ish. I had a bad headache all day yesterday and when I tested my bp its was higher than normal so now I'm panicking about pre eclampsia. Still in Devon so can't go to my GP or midwife, we've run out of paracetamol and no where is open. I don't know if I should be going a&e but we don't have enough petrol anyway so would have to wait til the petrol station opens. I've just sat and cried for about an hour as I wish I could talk to mum, she was a nurse and very wise so she'd know what to do, I really miss her.

Sultanajo Sun 18-Aug-13 08:08:24

Hey mrsg. Poor you freaking out in the countryside. Offering hugs and a hand to hold.

Ok, firstly I have never read about left shoulder pain being associated with pre eclampsia....although I am not an expert on the subject. Do you have sudden swelling in your hands and feet?

Could you at least call your midwife for some advice? Dont worry about bothering her - thats what she is there for. Did you bring your numbers to contact urgently with you?

sarahleanne Sun 18-Aug-13 08:35:03

Mrsg, I had pre eclampsia with my first. My blood pressure went through the roof , bottom number was over 100 but they say anything over 90 is classed as high. What was your bp?
I also swelled up to the point I had no ankles left. It's also more common to get pre e in the third trimester .
I had high blood pressure with my second and was induced , they wouldn't diagnose this until the bottom number on my bp went over 90 xx

TobyLerone Sun 18-Aug-13 08:35:22

Poor MrsG flowers

I've never heard of shoulder pain being associated with preeclampsia either. Any swelling? I should think it's very rare to get preeclampsia at or around 20 weeks. Yy call your mw. She will advise you.

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 18-Aug-13 08:51:37

MrsG that must be worrying, but as others have said it doesn't sound like classic pre-eclampsia so call your midwife for advice.

As relaxin increases your ligaments get softer and it is possible to do yourself an injury whilst doing something quite normal, even sleeping when pregnant.

Drink lots of water and try and do some lying down with slow, deep breathing to help yourself relax. A pulled muscle or ligament in your shoulder can cause tension in your neck resulting in a headache. A nice warm bath or a hot water bottle on the area might help too.

That dress is gorgeous Humpty, glad you enjoyed the wedding smile

itsonlyapapermoon Sun 18-Aug-13 09:05:46

Anyone else suffering lower back pain? I'm hobbling around like an old bloody woman at the moment-maybe a pinched nerve? Just to the left of my tail bone I feel like I've got a knot there, can't lift my left leg properly and can't bend down. Chiropractor this week methinks! Never had any back trouble with the other 3 confused

Sultanajo Sun 18-Aug-13 09:21:04

humpty meant to say the dress is gorgeous!

papermoon yy lower back pain, but its only after I have walked for a significant amount of time. After yesterdays hour walk I was again in agony and hobbling around. All loosened up again this morning thankfully! wink

extracrunchy Sun 18-Aug-13 10:02:09

Papermoon it's your sacral/pelvic joints - they loosen and shift when you're pregnant and it SUCKS.

MrsGSR Sun 18-Aug-13 10:04:07

Currently in A&E, my bp was 146/96 but they think that was just due to the pain as since taking paracetamol its been measured as low (which is normal for me). There is a pre eclampsia website that lists shoulder pain as a symptom, but now the pain has lessened I can tell it's sore to the touch so it probably isn't displaced pain. Thank you for the messages, I'm a lot calmer now! 5 hours sleep didn't help!

extracrunchy Sun 18-Aug-13 10:05:19

Aw MrsG sending hugs sad

AnotherStitch has nailed what I would have said! And I'd call MW too just to put your mind at rest. It's what she's there for!

extracrunchy Sun 18-Aug-13 10:05:54

Oh cross posted! Glad you're feeling calmer smile

MrsG you poor love. I have woken up with a sore arm/shoulder, I assumed it was from sleeping on it badly. I hope you feel better soon.

paper yes absolutely. First thing I have to hold my back with both hands to make it to the loo! So SEXAH!

sarahleanne Sun 18-Aug-13 20:31:17

glad you are ok now mrsg,you did the right thing getting checked out grin

ok ladies I have just had this horrible realisation that DH is going away in 2 weeks time for THREE WEEKS starting a new job, shiiiiit , and its bang on back to school time which means its back to hectic mornings (school runs) and no help for 3 weeks. Im allowed to moan about that right? hmm

papermoon back pain over here too and pelvic pain, yippee oh the joys of pregnancy... good job we all get a gorgeous baby at the end of this 9 months!!

Penny31 Sun 18-Aug-13 21:48:34

Urgh back to work tomorrow after a lovely relaxing week off. I really like my job and usually don't mind going back, this time I could do with a few more days.

Had a productive day washing, cleaning and sorting. Early nesting? Lol

Hope everyone had a lovely weekend

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 09:43:09

Really not feeling the love for work today. sad

yy to back pain (or anywhere around the general pelvis region). I had SPD from around 30 weeks last time, and I've been feeling it from about 16 this time shock

It's utter shit, but I'm hoping to get a physio referral pretty soon, and have been doing lots of yoga and trying to be aware of how I'm standing and moving around to keep it under control. No idea if it will work, but beter than doing nothing smile

I'm not really feeling work today either. I'm looking at applicants for my maternity cover, and some are awful, and some would be much better than me. I don't want them, obviously. wink

nature oh dear, sounds like you need cake at lunchtime.

enjoying oh god, no, you don't want someone who leaves piles for you to do when you get back, or someone who makes themselves too invaluable <bastards>. Someone nice and average!

Off to spend a day with a friend and her 6mo son, cannot wait for snuggly cuddles and playing.

Think I felt my first movement yesterday evening - it was really weird, sort of scraping/fluttering/flickering, like something was (v gently) scratching from the inside. Which sounds creepy and I don't mean it to.

MrsGSR Mon 19-Aug-13 11:22:18

humpty thats really exciting! I can't wait to start feeling movements but still nothing yet.

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 11:35:09

enjoying definitely don't want someone better!

humpty luckily Dh packed me a very tasty lunch today which included key lime pie grin

Exciting you are feeling movements. I'm getting quite regular movements now which is very nice, mostly when I'm curled up on the sofa which I have been doing a lot!!!

Mythreeknights Mon 19-Aug-13 11:36:17

Well, I'm now 18+3 and I can say I'm definitely feeling movement at LAST smile Only when I'm in bed about to go to sleep or in the morning when I wake up, but if I lie quietly with my hand on my tummy it isn't too long before I get a gentle poke. It's such a relief especially given I was one of the non-dopplered at 16 weeks, so this is first indication that everything is ok since the 12 week scan. it's been a LONG 6 weeks I can tell you.

Feeling v sympathetic for all unmotivated peeps today - my client has been on leave for 2 weeks and I'm still waiting to have a catch up call today and I've just done everything I can think of. Might go and hoover upstairs (I work from home). Ug.

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 11:37:37

MrsG so pleased you got yourself checked and you are back on your feet. Definitely the right thing to do!

Enjoying oh blimey - what a choice! Won't get applicants for mine until mid-September and really praying we get some and they are good!!!

Penny I feel your post holiday blues - did NOT want to go in this morning! Had a rough start to the morning but it is suddenly looking up - had two really excellent meetings in a row which is AMAZING and felt I really made leaps forward with both! Hurray! That, like, NEVER happens! Hoping the rest of the week continues that well!

Feeling for you ladies with pain. I am thankful that currently mine comes and goes and I can figure out usually what triggers it at the moment! SPD must be horrendous!

Humpty how exciting! grin Here's to feeling many more! I THINK I have been feeling some sitting at my desk this morning. Had a listen with the doppler again last night and could hear a super active bubs flipping about in there but couldn't feel it. Did think I felt a few bubbles popping this morning when I was lying in bed and that's how it felt again just now.... I am thinking it must be bubs. Really can't wait until I can feel something that I can say "that was definitely a kick"....

Mythreeknights Mon 19-Aug-13 11:38:04

Has anyone heard from curly? Still crossing fingers that all ok brew

Mythreeknights Mon 19-Aug-13 11:39:33

Whopee Sultana - thats the first POSITIVE work related update you have posted - here's to it continuing all the way to Splat Date. grin

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 11:56:41

No nothing from Curly I don't think. Keeping everything crossed!

Mythree I KNOW! I couldn't believe I walked out of both with a massive smile on my face! Incredible! If that continued until I go off on mat leave it would be soooo much more enjoyable! However, I am under no illusion, but will bask in the feelgood feelings for as long as I can! grin

Frizz1986 Mon 19-Aug-13 12:44:52

Good to see some nice work stories.

I think my mat cover will be someone else in the office stepping into my role for the year. Although not sure when it will happen as the girl my boss wanted has turned it down and is now looking for another job (wants more money and she is all about the money) and then someone else on the team is leaving too so they might need to not only sort my cover but get some newbies in and trained to replace the ones leaving.
Might mean that I don't start training for my cover until v late, which sucks as the last girl who went on mat leave had trained her replacement and was able to sit around chilling for about 2 months. Unlikely to happen to me as don't even know if we will have started training by that point and my stuff is way harder to learn!

No more movement felt since I was convinced I felt it. Think I don't want to say for sure in case I get bad news at the scan on Friday and then I will wonder what the hell I have been feeling!
Am so desperate for the scan now as am looking proper pregnant so want to be sure it is not just me getting fat!

Hope curly is ok

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 13:53:30

Feeling distinctly like a space cadet at the moment. Been outside for fresh air, took time away from the computer and turned the air con on max but still feel light headed. Really don't want to go home as I'm getting concerned about taking too much time off sick (all ready used half my allowance this year because of a chest infection right at the start). Any suggestions anyone?

Mythreeknights Mon 19-Aug-13 14:24:52

Eat something?

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 14:27:28

Tried eating and drinking but neither seems to have helped. Currently just staring at my computer screen pretending to work!

TobyLerone Mon 19-Aug-13 14:31:59

Did you sleep ok last night, Nature?

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 15:08:43

Yep slept fine, only woke up when dh came to bed which is normal and he got up with the puppy this morning as well. Bit worried it's my blood sugar going a bit heywire. I was on metformin before getting pg but was told to come off by gp when got bfp so just wondering if it's that.

TobyLerone Mon 19-Aug-13 15:09:39

Can you nip out to a chemist? Often they can take your blood pressure?

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 15:16:21

No chemist near here but may be able to stop at one on way home. Would they be able to do anything if it was low?

TobyLerone Mon 19-Aug-13 15:22:08

No, but they'd be able to suggest things you could do (drink plenty of water, rest) until you can see a doctor.

Penny31 Mon 19-Aug-13 15:26:21

I hope curly is ok too......

Well now I'm at work it isn't so bad. My boss wants to get someone in to cover me because if they don't he is worried that if they just spread my work out then then senior management might not see the value un keeping me on! They are cutting heads at the mo so I understand. My role is hard to fill in just a couple of months though I and do know my role is much needed but I can't help but worry about the future. My boss will fight for me to the end but even so.... I am the main earner and its good money, we would be screwed without my job sad only planning on taking 7 months off so hopefully all will be ok.

Sorry that turned into a me me me ramble!

MrsAVB Mon 19-Aug-13 16:23:05

Ugh... Maternity cover.
In addition to my previous comments about my employers' crappiness around maternity stuff, I've found out that my mat cover (well the 80% of it that's not being covered by colleagues) - who is someone I suggested and will be really happy to have covering me - will be paid at a consultancy rate - ie. much more than I am. Which sucks sad.
My boobs seem to have done a growth spurt - am already growing out of the new bras I bought since being pg, damn body!

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 16:52:51

MrsA that really is galling! Makes you feel like shit doesn't it! Just remember you are invaluable and they don't know what they have in you!!!

Penny how can it be so stressful going off and having a baby - the most amazing thing ever? The run up is crazy anyway, trying to train someone up to do a job that you have probably taken a long time to know inside out and perfect, without having the concerns of the powers that be thinking your position isn't warranted! That would make me soooo mad! I am glad your boss is on your side and is fighting your corner and is thinking of ways to try and ensure the worst doesn't happen, which is definitely something to cherish! Will keep everything firmly crossed for you!

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 16:54:29

nature hope you start to feel more normal soon. Definitely get checked if no better....

penny that's the same as me - without my wage we're fooked. It does make me feel incredibly defensive about my job.

MrsAVB with the above in mind, they won't want to keep a consultant wage on for a second longer than they have to. It sounds like they will make it easy for you to return! The money thing is annoying, but I'd rather have the security of employment (holidays, pension, sick leave, not having to do a tax return) in the long term.

Hope you feel better soon nature flowers

Spacefrog35 Mon 19-Aug-13 17:07:15

Just got back from my 16 week appt (which was actually at 18 weeks because I forgot to book it blush). Yay for my midwife who listened for & found Pootles heartbeat straight away. It's a bit irregular apparently but sounded like a train, couldn't believe how loud it was! Midwife also said she's 99% certain the 'feelings' I've been getting are a somersaulting small person so feeling very happy grin

Penny31 Mon 19-Aug-13 17:55:28

enjoying it does make you defensive doesn't it! That's exactly how I feel. I dread someone coming in to cover me in case they are better than me! I wish I was one of these people who is confident that they can't get rid of me while I'm on maternity cos I have rights etc. some people really take advantage and come out smelling of roses.

space it's amazing isn't it! Wait until you see the small somersaulting person at the 20 week scan. It really was the most amazing thing I've ever seen! You will be sped happy smile

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 18:19:41

space how exciting! Its just so amazing and I echo what penny said!

penny I too am worried that despite me working my ass off taking all the shit and doing more than one persons job for the last couple of years, someone will come along to cover me and they will prefer the way that person works. However, I also feel like I may want to change my working hours/contract if possible financially when I go back, so am trying to think of this as an exciting opportunity, rather than a super ball of stress....however, if its not financially viable then I will be in the same defensive boat as you and enjoying! sad Am currently burying my head a bit as I am doing all I can currently to keep things as secure as possible and trying to think happy thoughts....a lot can happen in a year though and things change very quickly at my place....just praying DHs job is safe. We find out more again in a few weeks..... palpitations start and wonders if opening that tub of ice cream would be a good idea

On the plus side I either have wind (which is possible as had my first diet coke in ages this afternoon) or I have been feeling bubs jiggling around on and off for the last half an hour! grin

MrsGSR Mon 19-Aug-13 18:23:11

flowers for all those having trouble with work and maternity leave, I hope it all gets sorted soon!

nature I hope you feel better soon. There's not much that can be done for low bp, make sure you don't get dehydrated and nap of you need to. My bp is usually about 100/60 but sometimes drops. I went to my GP last year and it was measured at 80/50 but apparently there's no drugs licenced in the UK to raise bp, so she just told me to drink lots and try not to spike my blood sugar as when it dips it can lower bp with it.

All of you who are panicking about Mat Leave, don't forget:

Your right to return to work is protected under employment law. They might like your replacement more, but it's tough tittie. Unless you decide not to come back, they are under an obligation to let you return to your role, or provide a closely related one if yours has changed/vanished.

In terms of training a replacement, I'm sure it would be lush to have a fully trained replacement doing your job for the last month or so, but if you don't, the people who suffer from an undertrained replacement are your employers - who should have started the process earlier so are getting what they deserve. Mine hasn't even advertised for my cover grin. Not my problem - I'm leaving when I leave, they'll have to come up with something.

nature I took half a day off last week feeling like this. Don't forget in terms of "allowance" (hmm to sickness being only within allowances) any pg illness related absences are not counted against your whole year tally. See here for details.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 19-Aug-13 20:05:08

I think your specific job is only protected if you return after 9 months, if you return after a year it just has to b at the same level. At least that's how it was when I left a couple of years ago before I had dd.

nature Humpty is right, pregnancy related illness does not count as part of your sickness allowance.

Tarka is quite right. The wording is:

"If you return to work during or at the end of the first 26 weeks (ordinary
maternity leave) you are entitled to the same job on terms and conditions (eg your salary, hours and the seniority of your job) as if you hadn’t been away. If you take additional maternity leave you are entitled to the same job on the same terms and conditions but if your employer cannot give you the exact job back for good reasons, you are entitled to a suitable job at the same level with terms and conditions at least as good as your previous job."

So, if they simply decide to 'prefer' another employee/your replacement, they'd be hard pressed to justify that as 'good reasons', if you took it to a tribunal!
Direct Gov leaflet on pg working rights & SMP etc

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:34:06

Thanks everyone feeling a bit better now I'm on the sofa curled up with the puppy.

I'm a bit confused by pg and sickness allowance. My understanding was that pg sickness can't be used for disciplinary purposes but I'm only entitled to the same allowance in terms of paid sickness. And if I've used up all my allowance and take time off sick in the mat leave qualifying period it will affect my mat pay. confused

nature I don't know - but I am still shock that you can have a 'sickness allowance' - what if you are sick more than the 'allowance'?? It makes no sense. You get SSP when off with pg sickness, so maybe that helps?

Penny31 Mon 19-Aug-13 20:42:13

I feel better that I'm protected by law even of they like the person who covers me better. I just don't want them to be disappointed when I return! I have no good reason to feel like this, Im well liked at work and my reviews are always good. I've been rewarded with a pay rise every year except this year. I think my salary is about where it should be now though so not much more room for a rise. I think it's just that times are tough and they are having to make redundancies and I am scared that I'm making myself an easy target. What will be will be I guess. All that matters is that my little family stays healthy and we will deal with whatever life throws at us smile

TobyLerone Mon 19-Aug-13 20:43:35

Paid sickness allowance (SSP notwithstanding) is not a statutory right, so they can basically make it up as they go along.

Are the SSP rules any different when you're pregnant, then?

toby really?! Wow. I spose, but still - it seems harsh. Our place has an AMAZING sickness policy - 6 months full pay, 6 months half pay if needed.
It makes me almost wish I were going off sick instead of mat leave grin

EAPM Mon 19-Aug-13 21:49:33


I'm new to the forum so wanted to say Hello!

I'm due on the 12th Jan and I have my 20week scan on the 29th August, can't wait to find out if its a boy or girl!

Hope everyone's pregnancy is going well looking forward to talking to you all.

Em xx

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 21:51:20

Thats really interesting. We dont get any sickness allowance - it would just be SSP.

I'm with you penny. No good reason to think they would prefer someone else and be gutted when I am back, but cant help thinking that way - think its partly that I am really comfortable with how I run things now and so much will have potentially changed when I go back, I will feel a bit of a crash in confidence as I try to pick things back up. Am sure all will work out in the end....it will be totally worth it to have a healthy happy little boy running around! grin

Sultanajo Mon 19-Aug-13 21:52:20

Welcome eapm! grin

Monty99 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:53:48

Hello smile

Thought I would say hello, am 17 weeks and thought it might be nice to join in! But, have a couple of questions, what is DH, dp, dd, dd2? I get what they are in the context of the sentence but can't figure out what they actually stand for!


Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 22:18:14

Wow humpty six months full pay! I get two weeks full pay! sad

Welcome to everyone new smile

FidgetPie Mon 19-Aug-13 22:58:28

Hi all

We had our 20 week scan today. It was fantastic to see the little one. We had wanted to find out the gender, but baby had other ideas - so it will be a surprise instead!

Monty - welcome - the 'D' stands for dear / darling so 'darling husband' is DH. There is a link to acronyms guide at the top of the page.

Naturegirl82 Mon 19-Aug-13 23:14:23

Just woke up and started vomming! Really don't know what's up with me today sad

Spacefrog35 Tue 20-Aug-13 07:06:27

Ohh poor Nature, hope you feel better today. flowers

MrsVDB Tue 20-Aug-13 07:06:50

Was a bridesmaid on Sunday and just about managed to fit into it! Was a lovely but very long couple of days. Couldn't stop being sick for last hour of evening do but made it worse that lots of drunk people with beer breath kept trying to ask if I was ok/ offer me water etc.

Also my bump looked huge which was nice as people kept touching it but it was huge and hard so I didn't really mind. Not even 18 weeks yet but pretty big.

I did notice when I was rubbing my tummy there is a small bump/ nodule on both sides about 1/2 way between belly button (also shallower!) and boobs a few inches from centre line each side. Worried me a bit but all my drunk friends said it was the foot/ hand etc which obviously it can't be

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 08:12:35

At 18 weeks it can't be anything baby-related that high up, MrsV. Don't panic smile Maybe mention it to your MW next time you see her.

Welcome, newbies smile

Are you feeling any better today, nature? flowers

Naturegirl82 Tue 20-Aug-13 08:21:13

Still feeling rough, very queasy and a headache so it's a day trying to do as much as I can from the comfort of the sofa today.

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 08:42:04

Must be a bug, then, Nature. Hope you feel better soon.

Naturegirl82 Tue 20-Aug-13 08:59:54

Thanks toby more vomming this morning so good decision not to go in. Curled up on the sofa with a sleeping pup. Just going to take it easy today.

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 09:15:52

You poor thing sad

sad nature

Hope the rest does you some good.

I'm so looking forward to the 20 week scan now. Seems like an age away!

nature feel better, poor you.

Hello to monty and EAPM

20 week scan this afternoon for me - probably I am just a worrywart, but I am as scared as I was before the 12 week scan. That whole 'we don't listen for heartbeat at 16 weeks' thing has freaked me out.
Actually, I'm not as bad as I was on 12 week scan day. I didn't vomit breakfast straight back up grin [looking on the bright side]

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 11:17:53

Good luck, Humpty grin

Mythreeknights Tue 20-Aug-13 12:30:27

Good luck smile are you finding out the sex?

Frizz1986 Tue 20-Aug-13 12:40:45

good luck for all the scans today.
Am very jealous!! Got mine on Friday first thing and I am wishing the days away!!

Sorry for poorlyness nature

MrsVDB Tue 20-Aug-13 12:46:08

Good luck humpty still 2 weeks to wait until mine

MrsGSR Tue 20-Aug-13 12:47:18

Good luck humpty!

We've got our private gender scan this evening, I'm also pretty scared! I'm glad DH is able to come to this scan though.

I hope you start feeling better soon nature sad

Ta all - am just about to set off (oh the joy of London travel, where it takes 45 mins to go 2.6 miles).

Mythree we're in the surprise flavour camp. Just as long as there's a heartbeat, and no huge problems, I'll be happy. Fingers and toeses crossed.

Penny31 Tue 20-Aug-13 13:40:21

Good luck humpty!

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 15:30:47

Good luck tonight, MrsG!

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 16:34:00

Sorry to hear you are feeling rough Nature. I guess at least the reason you were feeling dodgy yesterday was the start of some bug - hopefully it will go away as quickly as it arrived.

Good luck this afternoon humpty and this evening mrsg! So exciting!!!

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 16:37:21

MrsV that's great you managed to fit into the bridesmaid dress, despite the last hour of vomming! Bless your drunk friends with your nodules! I am sure they thought in their slightly dishevelled state they were making you feel better! As Toby said, check with your midwife or if you are really worried then get in touch with your GP....

MrsG good luck!

Well - PHEW. All fine, v wriggly, and it turns out I have an anterior placenta, hence the not definite movement feelings. All measurements good, and we didn't cave and find out sex.
Bean was, however, HIDING with head tucked on top of my bladder hmm and would NOT let the poor lady check how fat abdominal circumference. Already disobedient and not even born yet...

Pic on profile. Blowing bubbles (chewing own hand, but it looks like it!)

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 16:45:56

Lovely pic, Humpty smile Glad it all went well.

Naturegirl82 Tue 20-Aug-13 16:57:14

Glad it went well humpty

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 17:07:16

Yay humpty! That's great news and another anterior placenta chica! Welcome aboard! Loving the pics! So cute!

If it helps, I am 21 weeks and 4 days and finally think (still not 100% sure) but think I felt definite kicks last night on the sofa - only a few, but much stronger than anything I have felt so far. Still not super strong, but enough to make me think it definitely was kicks, so hopefully in a few weeks we will both be feeling them!

Thanks all.

sultana awesome - that's reassuring. I'm so glad (in some ways!) that it is AP that's meant i haven't felt anything. I shall wait another couple of weeks and hope for the best.

MrsAVB Tue 20-Aug-13 17:24:44

Yay! Gorgeous pics humpty! How long was your appointment? X

MrsGSR Tue 20-Aug-13 19:21:06

Congrats on your scan humpty!

We're having a girl! And I think I'm another with an anterior placenta (I wasn't completely listening as I was so pleased to see baby wiggling around!) DH is very excited, but a bit annoyed to be proven wrong!

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 19:58:37

Ekkk mrsg! A girl! How exciting!!! grin They didnt actually tell me my placenta was anterior - I read it on my notes....

MrsA bloody ages grin about 45 mins scanning, lots of turning onto my sides to make the little bugger shift about. Meant to be quicker than that, I think.

MrsG yay a girl! How lush!

sultana I read my notes too - that's where I found 'image obscured by adiposity' blush. No wonder she had to push so hard [ouch]

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 20:15:36

Ouch indeed! shock I too had to turn on my side and also go and pee before the little monkey would get onto a good position! wink

Mythreeknights Tue 20-Aug-13 20:46:29

Waaah, two happy scans that is brilliant, well done humpty and Mrsg. I am v jealous as my scan isn't for another three weeks (when I will be coming up to 22 weeks) (which on the flip side means I will get to see more detail perhaps). I have totally convinced myself that this baby isn't a goer...somehow I just don't 'trust' that its ok. Call it gut instinct. It sounds totally mad and paranoid but I am basically expecting either no heart beat at the scan, or to be told that there is a major abnormality and baby won't survive. Damn that midwife who wouldn't do the Doppler at 16 weeks. Damn her t smithereens. Does anyone else feel as paranoid?

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 20:55:27

Yay for scans smile

I'm quite afraid that there will be an abnormality tomorrow at mine, Mythree. I can easily feel movement, so I'm not so worried about the heartbeat, but I'm a bit scared about what else could be wrong. I've felt a bit 'abstract' about the whole thing so far, so with a bit of luck tomorrow will go well and I'll actually start doing things (ie buying a car/pram/crib/car seat etc).

Will we ever fully relax again?! grin

BookTart Tue 20-Aug-13 21:07:12

Lovely news from today's scans smile
I'm ridiculously worried too mythree. I haven't felt any definite movement (20 weeks today) and I'm just so anxious about the whole thing. I've been strict with myself about reading things on the internet as well, after I really upset myself doing it on Saturday blush DP won't tell his parents that we're expecting until after the scan either, and we're driving down to see them at the weekend. They might be getting a bit of a shock when I get out of the car - I'm huge! Haven't bought a single thing yet either, I'm waiting until at least after the scan, if not 23 weeks. hopefully the scan will be okay and then I can start being a bit less tense!

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 21:08:50


Frizz1986 Tue 20-Aug-13 21:31:29

mythree i am petrified! Watching midwives on bbc 2 is not helping me. Am now blubbing like a complete baby.
Just feel i need to keep my fingers and toes and everything crossed for the scan on Friday. Glad its first thing so I am not waiting around all day.

mythree I was downplaying it, but I was absolutely and exactly as paranoid/convinced that something was wrong - and it was fine. I can totally sympathise, and I can't convince you, I know. Massive hugs. And a time-turner to make the two weeks go fast.

Toby once again, you make me snort with laughter. I'm assuming it's... appropriate stuff? Not, like, snot?

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 21:36:19

We're watching Midwives too. It's terrifying!

Sorry for making you snort, Humpty grin My boobs have been super itchy and I've taken my bra off because it's more comfy, and then all of a sudden I was like "DH, THERE IS STUFF COMING OUT OF MY BOOB!"
That made him put his laptop down!

Pretty sure it's appropriate stuff grin

MrsAVB Tue 20-Aug-13 21:48:37

shock toby! What kind of stuff? grin
Congrats humpty and mrsg
I am feeling big today although people keep telling me that I'm not showing yet...

MrsAVB Tue 20-Aug-13 21:49:31

Haha snot... grin

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 21:50:32

Colostrum, I assume. Clear, whitish stuff. Just tiny bits. I don't remember this happening so early before, but then again it's been a million years since I had a baby.

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 21:53:43

toby thats frickin hilarious! grin Just the one boob?

Ladies I too was ridiculously worried and paranoid and honestly every day I still have moments of serious worry and paranoia, despite a pretty good scan. I think it must be normal to worry this much she says with a manic grin grin

I made it half way thru midwives and nearly switched off with the girl being induced due to previous experiences and managed to keep going until they started talking about bereavement and I just had to stop as it made me want to grab my doppler and tie it permanently to me! Dont think I will be able to brave it again!!! At least with one born you tend to get warning when something potentially distressing is coming up. This flicked too quickly for me from one thing to the next - put me in a bit of a tailspin....confused

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 21:55:30

Good luck for all the scans coming up this week and toby for tomorrow! Have you got some breast pads? wink

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 22:00:17

Yep, just the left boob grin I think I'll have to shop for some breast pads tomorrow. Like these beasts need any padding hmm

We persevered with Midwives and a lady has just had the most beautiful twins. Seriously the most perfect newborns I've ever seen!

Good luck Book for tomorrow too smile

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 22:03:14

Oh book you are tomorrow too? Sorry, missed that! Really hope it all goes ok!

toby dare I ask how the diabetic lady got on? hmm

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 22:08:56

She had a CS in the end and everything was fine. Baby in special care for a bit, but normal considering it was 7 months.

book and toby woop for tomorrow - will you be seeing each other (you're both WHH, aren't you?) hope it goes brilliantly!

Phew that the 'stuff' is appropriate. I had Exorcist-boobs visions.

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 22:13:40

It's meant to be bright green, right? wink

I'll be the fat one with the pretty husband, if anyone's at the WHH tomorrow grin

Sultanajo Tue 20-Aug-13 22:24:41

Phew! Was in two minds whether to ask....grin

No, toby you will be the one with a wet t shirt around the left boob area! wink

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 22:31:26

Hahaha! That I will grin

littlealien01 Tue 20-Aug-13 22:38:43

the twins on midwives had me in floods of tears, both when she was rushed to theatre and when they were ok. think id have been inconsolable if it had been a sad ending.

no leaky boobs here just yet but they dont half seem to be growing (& getting disturbingly droopy), im a G cup to start with so really dont need or want the growth. worried ill look like jordan once i get milk and jump sizes.

is anyone else getting really low stomach pain/discomfort and a rock hard abdomen? from googling im fairly sure its just gas and stretching but id feel better if someone else had it too.

19wks today and still nothing i can say is definite moving. cant believe im wishing to be repeatedly kicked but it would be reassuring. on the plus side i can say my morning sickness has now been gone a week, and ....drumroll... i can now eat (& look at) chocolate without being sick for the first time in months, woohoo. enough rambling.....ill be in the corner eating all the chocolate x

TobyLerone Tue 20-Aug-13 22:49:26

Could be braxton hicks, little? I'm fairly sure I've been getting them for weeks.

Glad you're feeling better smile

Right. I'm off. DH has googled the itchy boobs and offered to moisturise them "because the internet says so" grin

BookTart Wed 21-Aug-13 06:48:58

little' I am a G cup and they haven't grown at all, just changed shape and gone weirdly saggy and pointy I have gone up a back size though.

I will be scrutinising the people at WHH tomorrow for wet chest patches and pretty husbands. DP usually looks like a vagrant, so we're fairly easy to spot grin

MrsVDB Wed 21-Aug-13 06:51:26

Woo on the good scans! And good luck everyone today/ tomorrow

Less woo for leaky boobs!

I missed midwives is it like obem?

alien I've had pain under my bump/ gut for the last couple of weeks, especially if I'm walking around a lot or stretching etc. I've just assumed its stretching pains. My tummy goes through rock hard stages too but all over

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 08:09:26

Mrsv yeah a bit like OBEM, but I didn't like it as much and I felt there was more chance of unhappy endings, hence the switching off! Good news only please! wink

little yes I have had some pain in the lower abdomen on and off - in fact I freaked out because I had some sharp pain on Sunday walking around Ikea (probably bubs telling me to get out of there while I still could!!!) - hadn't had that before. Was fine by that evening and not come back since. The top of my abdomen is quite often rock hard by the evening and it's usually related to what/how much I have eaten and how quickly I have eaten it! Saying that, it was mahoosively rock hard last night (because I ate my dinner in two seconds flat) and this morning and it's still pretty big and hard. Having one of those "I just feel uncomfortable and fat" mornings!

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 08:09:48

Meant to say good luck for the scans today!

littlealien01 Wed 21-Aug-13 08:27:15

ooh good glad its not just me. relaxes

booktart that sounds similar actually. im still just about in the same bras (albeit now tighter fitting & with back extenders) but finding they look totally different so it feels like theyre huge. must be a shape thing.

MrsAVB Wed 21-Aug-13 08:40:06

Morning all! Good luck today toby and book, hope there's no more incompetence at WHH.
Have stretchy pains in my bump too, but think its just growing stretching pains. Boobs and tummy feel pretty solid and not in a very comfortable way... But maybe preferable to saggy! Have gone up from a c cup to a g cup with no band increase, stupid boobs!
Have a good day everyone x

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 09:22:52

Ekkk! Just bought one of the star wraps Toby suggested from Amazon in turquoise! Looks sooooo cute!!!

MrsGSR Wed 21-Aug-13 09:54:48

Good luck toby and book!

We paid extra for a dvd of the scan so I'll be watching that for the next few months!

Mythreeknights Wed 21-Aug-13 10:48:41

All the best toby and book brew ENJOY seeing your little ones and I can't wait to hear how they are perfect and all went well.

I'm still worried we haven't had an update from curly - has anyone noticed any posts from her on other boards?

Thanks for all reassurance that my paranoia is not mine alone. I know exactly what you mean about 'abstract' feelings and my other problem is I continue to have these massive muscle spasms in my tummy - which feels like I've been pushed by someone or have just walked into the side of a table. I was on the phone yesterday and cried out because it came out of nowhere and I had to pretend it was a kick sad. I've googled it and I see some women have it in pg, but I'll also mention it to the GP as it does seem a bit rare.

Loving the boob leakage story, and OPs DH's reaction to it.. grin

TobyLerone Wed 21-Aug-13 10:53:27

mythree, are you sure it's not a kick? Sometimes in the past week or so I have had such a sharp jab from inside that it's made me wince.

No further leakage this morning, luckily! Breast pads on the list to buy later grin

Thanks for all the good wishes, lovelies smile

TobyLerone Wed 21-Aug-13 11:01:41

I searched for other posts by curly and she said the amnio had gone fine last week but she hasn't updated since. I hope she's ok.

I had to trawl back through the thread to find curly's full name to search and while I did I noticed that both Sarahs and toothfairy also have their scans today. Good luck, ladies!

TarkaTheOtter Wed 21-Aug-13 11:02:47

mythree, I remember with dd that every so often I would get a "twang" or "electric shock" feeling, is that like what you're experiencing? I wondered if I had a sensitive spit somewhere (like the womb equivalent of a funny bone) and the baby was kicking it.

Good luck to all the scanees today! Mine's tomorrow but I have to go to the hospital today anyway for an antenatal clinic with my consultants. Wonder how late it'll be running today...

Mythreeknights Wed 21-Aug-13 11:32:52

It's definitely not a kick as I've had them since about 11 weeks pg. It also feels too violent to be a kick (even at 35-40 weeks they are not like this). Finally, the difference is that it feels like someone is pushing 'in' to me, rather than a baby inside kicking out. So, definitely not kicks!

Yes, good luck to sarah and toothfairy too smile

TobyLerone Wed 21-Aug-13 11:36:46

Ah, ok. Weird.

Like Tarka, I've been getting quite strong twangs - like someone has pinged an elastic band inside by stomach. It's been enough to make me make a weird noise when it happens, and double over for a second, but then it's gone. I've put it down to ligaments. (I put everything down to ligaments).

Does that sound similar?

Hope today goes ok for all the people being scanned!

mythree ouchie. That sounds yuck.

I just discovered what my pain was - thought I had a kidney infection, on and off dull pain in the back of my waist at the right hand side. Turns out it's constipation grin. Ohhhh the GLAMOUR.

sarah and tooth good luck today too - hope all is lovely and wriggly and good.

Naturegirl82 Wed 21-Aug-13 13:25:06

I too have had a pain, but mine is on my right hand side (where my appendix is) since the weekend. Sometimes a dull ache other times quite sharp.

TobyLerone Wed 21-Aug-13 13:37:05

Back! All good. V small head, apparently, but sonographer wasn't worried. The circumference was within normal bounds but the diameter was below 5th centile. She said she sees it often and it's nothing to worry about. Doesn't help that there's a fibroid of the same size right next to its head, poor thing!

I have to go back in a couple of weeks because it turned to face my back when she wanted to look at the heart. Typical!

MrsVDB Wed 21-Aug-13 13:45:35

As if my hairy, stretch marky, shallow belly button situation isn't bad enough I now think I'm getting varicose veins on my tummy!! 2 weeks until Bali and I was planning on bikinis!!

Doctorbrownbear Wed 21-Aug-13 13:53:51

MrsVDB I have dark thread veins on my legs, they look lovely, however, I had them in my last pregnancy and they dissappeared as soon as DD was born. I hope so this time!

I'm starting to sprout skin tags and new moles in amongst the hair Mrs, so I'll join you in the super sexy corner over there.

Thankfully, the only place I bare anything is our local swimming baths, and I honestly think that even with the hair/veins/moles I'm still comparing favourably to some in there. It's shit tattoo central most weeks.

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 21-Aug-13 14:54:10

Hello everyone smile

Congrats on your girl MrsG and glad all well well with your too Humpty.

Toby Glad your scan went okay, despite baby not co-operating. I had little white blobs from both boobs last pregnancy from early on, I took it as a good sign that my milk would be there when baby arrived smile

Hope your scan went well Book

Mythree I had something like that last pregnancy when my ligaments were stretching.

I still have stretch marks from the last pregnancy and my belly button has well and truly popped out. Plus I am shedding a ridiculous amount of hair from my head and it has gone into overdrive. At this rate I will look like cousin IT by the time the baby is born.

Mythreeknights Wed 21-Aug-13 15:29:07

Whooppeee - I have just heard my baby's heartbeat! Just had an impromptu doppler session with a friend and all is OK :-)

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 15:42:48

toby thats really great to hear! Poor little thing with its fibroid companions, but am sure its not fussed! grin

mythree hurray! What a relief for you! grin

Loving the sexy comparisons! Fingers crossed so far hair is my main issue and it could be so much worse.....really hope I havent just jinxed myself!,wink

Just felt a few little kicks while sitting at my desk - yay! Am loving them! grin

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 15:46:04

humpty ohhhh the glamour of it all!

I braved watching the rest of midwives and as some of u said, the twins had me in tears!

MrsVDB Wed 21-Aug-13 16:40:42

Ah I'm jealous of outie belly buttons and kicks. I just have the rubbish symptoms (although no leaky boobs yet touchwood!) only 18w And always get offered seat on train now so at least I'm showing. Shouldn't complain really smile

anotherstitch grin Cousin IT is COOL.

mythree hurrah for reassurance!

toby bloody fibroids getting in the way, but well done baby for accommodating them.

Am now getting busy - planning to see a whole bunch of friends over the next few weeks, and going away, since I can feel myself getting slower/more tired already, and I want to thoroughly nest in my third trimester! Also: is it just me, or is it BOILING today?

Go AWAY heat. I am not enjoying you.

MrsAVB Wed 21-Aug-13 16:54:38

Yay toby and three!
Have recorded the midwives programme but after your comments I'm not sure I'll watch - I can't bear obem, but that's more because the people on it are always annoying.
I have thread veins on my tummy too, at the top just under my bra. Have had them on my legs for a few years now but they have definitely become more prominent since being pg.

Frizz1986 Wed 21-Aug-13 16:59:41

Congrats people. I am mega showing! Just kinda popped out the past week or so and an a bit worried I might be too big. Think I look about 7 months and am only 19+5 with number 1. Oh well. Belly seems to be rather hard so it's mostly baby (i hope)
Got my scan on friday tho so hoping that all is ok and they don't tell me that baby is huge and oversized lol.

Just asked my boss how her neices pg was going and she had to terminate after 12 weeks due to abnormalities. She hadn't said to me in case it scared me but I said I am already terrified something will be wrong at the scan but trying to be realistic and remember that there is nothing I can do if something bad is going on. Hoping that most major things will have been seen or half noticed at 12 weeks.
Good luck to anyone with scans tomorrow. Only 1 more day for me to wait!

BookTart Wed 21-Aug-13 18:38:44

Congrats toby and mythree smile

Just got back from scan and all is well. DP had a sudden change of heart, so now we know it is a girl grin He has wanted a girl from the beginning, so is pleased. It does now mean we have to have the name conversation. The only name on his list is Persephone, which would be fine if his surname wasn't so very plain. Think Persephone Blogg and you'll see my problem...

Good luck for Friday frizz. I'm only a few days further along than you and I'm HUGE already. Suspect mine is mostly cake rather than baby though blush

extracrunchy Wed 21-Aug-13 18:43:46

Lovely to hear about the good scans - toby if MW says it's normal, small head can only be a good thing - DS's head was so massive he got properly stuck!

Can't wait to hear about everyone else's. Hope curly's ok.

Sharp pains - either ligaments or possibly early ish braxton hicks? One sided ones sound like ligaments to me though.

extracrunchy Wed 21-Aug-13 18:44:51

Aw Booktart that's lovely! Funny your DH changed his mind grin

extracrunchy Wed 21-Aug-13 18:45:42

I've been using "lovely" a lot today. Clearly everything is lovely! (If a bit hairy and veiny and spotty here too)

sarahleanne Wed 21-Aug-13 19:11:11

thanks for the thoughts this morning grin
scan went well, the sonographer was great and I was In there fr about 25 minutes. She said the head was measuring big, then checked it again and said it was ok but now im convinced I have a baby with a big head. dh is convinced he saw a willy but ive been staring at scan pics and im convinced its a girl, there's no visible willy and the forehead is curved at the front not flat which apparently means girl?

looks like its been a good day for scans!! congratulations toby,book and anyone else that's had scans today.
mrs congrats on your girl!

Toothfairy78 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:39:36

Evenin' all!

Glad to hear of good scans today!

Had mine too today. All looks good and we're team yellow! Apparently tooth jr thinks sitting still is for WIMPS! Little monkey managed to second guess the sonographer at nigh on every move and get an arm or leg in the way each time.

I have started feeling even more kicks today too and DH it's possible could faintly feel a kick too, though we're not sure. Very exciting!

Right better go scan my pics and send to the rellies...

sarahleanne Wed 21-Aug-13 19:45:22

congratulations tooth glad all went well

I forgot to say in my post that I found out my placenta is at the front which would explain why I havnt felt as many kicks as I did with my other 2 at this stage. The baby was non stop moving and I couldn't even feel it.So I think it has to properly kick out for me to notice.

Mac2014 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:11:57

Yay for the all fantastic scans. I'm with frizz on Friday and have everything crossed.

It's bonkers how paranoid this whole thing makes you... Midwives & OBEM really don't help. We had to turn midwives off when the lady who'd had to terminate at 21 weeks was talking about it. DH & I ended up having to watch QI as a distraction.

I too have weird pains that ended up being constipation ... Nice!!

SarahJayne321 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:19:46

So glad it's all been good on the scan front today smile

Ours was all good, although once again baby was led face down and we had to go for a walk to get him, (yes HIM!!!) to turn round to she could get measurements. Then he wouldn't sit still long enough! Managed to get then eventually and she said everything looked fine.

Oh and if you didn't guess, were team BLUE! OH over the moon and had a little blubber smile

Sultanajo Wed 21-Aug-13 20:26:28

mac that was the point I turned off too! blush

Fantastic scan news ladies! Loads of scans today! I am so surprised how many of us have anterior placentas.... Woop woop!

Penny31 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:45:13

So pleased for everyone with the great scans! Also pleased that we are forming and anterior placenta club too smile is the norm actually to have the opposite??

Toothfairy78 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:46:07

Oh yes may I be a member of the anterior placenta club too please?

Mine's high up though so until this afternoon only feeling low movements.

Seriously we saw Jr really kick hard and I didn't feel a thing this morning. This afternoon though I started getting pokes all over!

TobyLerone Wed 21-Aug-13 20:58:12

Congrats on all the good scans today and so far smile

Book, Persephone is on our list too. We may have to liaise if I have a girl and make sure we're not so close to each other that they'll be attending the same school grin We have a bigger girls' list than boys' list, and Persephone isn't the frontrunner, so it's probably fine wink

Congrats scanners! Hurrah for lovely wiggly beans.

frizz pompoms for you for the wait, if only to distract you with my inability to jump, kick, do the splits or even really wave my arms about convincingly

Sultanajo Thu 22-Aug-13 08:38:53

Good luck for any scans today!!!

tooth how cool is that? My kicks are still coming today which I am super pleased about, although they are still low down, which is fine with me. As long as they continue and get more frequent and stronger I will be a happy bunny! wink

Loving the distractions for frizz humpty! Will join you!

Penny I didn't think anterior placenta was so common, but apparently we are proving that theory wrong.... At least they all seem to be high which is good!

I had bizarre freaky dreams all night about soooo many things, but the main thing I dreamt is that I was at a water park and I was told I could go on all the water flumes, so long as I didn't get pushed by anyone. Well, you can imagine that I spent a very stressful night trying to avoid everyone else in the pool as I made my way to the entrance of each flume. The midwife was also meant to be there at the bottom to help me get out of the giant rubber ring I was using to go down the flume on and she invariably wasn't there! Other people also kept jumping down the flume behind me before I was at the bottom, so I kept worrying they were going to bash into me! I kept saying I would go and get changed and just watch everyone else, but the midwife insisted this was the perfect exercise to do in pregnancy and I was just being a wuss!!! grin

Frizz1986 Thu 22-Aug-13 08:46:38

Arghhhhh why am I so freaked out about tomorrow! Feel like a nervous wreck, even worse than before the 12 week scan. Need to keep telling myself that the chances are small but then I just think to myself that something bad happens to someone otherwise there wouldn't be that small percentage of something going wrong.
Must keep telling myself that what will be will be and there is nothing I can do to change the outcome. Hope that tomorrow all this freak out will be a distant memory and I will wonder why I was such an idiot getting myself so worked up. (sorry if my freak out is causing other freak outs-am sure u lot are much more sane than I am)

Already feel better for getting it out in the open!

Anyone got scans today? Good luck and enjoy seeing ur little ones. So jealous that mine is still 24hrs away!

TarkaTheOtter Thu 22-Aug-13 09:04:35

frizz I have my scan today and I'm really nervous too. I'm really starring to worry about not having taken folio acid past about 8 weeks as I was just throwing the tablets up. Turns out because of the diabetes I should have been taking double. sad.
On a happier note, dh now agrees with me not to find out the sex of the baby which makes life easier. Didn't want to have to throw a strop about it.

TobyLerone Thu 22-Aug-13 09:07:41

Good luck for your scans, ladies. I'm certain everything will be fine flowers

If it makes you feel any better, Tarka, I haven't taken any vitamins since 12 weeks.

MrsAVB Thu 22-Aug-13 09:12:31

Morning all...
Good luck for scans today! Mine isn't til next week when I will be 22 weeks.
And I don't have an anterior placenta (or at least didn't at 12week scan...can it move?) - I feel left out!
Have a good day everyone

TobyLerone Thu 22-Aug-13 09:15:51

I don't have an anterior placenta either. Perhaps we ought to have our own club grin

Sultanajo Thu 22-Aug-13 09:37:32

Frizz totally normal to feel so freaked out! I was a total wreck and didn't sleep the night before! Deep breaths! Will be keeping everything crossed for you that you are worrying for nothing!

Tarka good luck for today! Just think of all those girls out there who didn't even know they were preggers and were totally fine. Taking the vits is the gold standard - but ultimately you did everything you could and they are hardy little monkeys! wink

frizz and tarka massive hugs ladies, I worried for EXACTLY those reasons ("well, it has to happen to someone") and that I'd forgotten the stupid horse sized tablets since week 12 (not every day, but not been regularly taking them). It was fine and I am sure everything will be fine for you too.

MrsA but you have HG/still have morning sickness, right? So you're still in the club grin.

Had such a headache when I woke up first thing - this changeable weather really sets me off. I want the pressure to STAY THE SAME (preferably whatever is needed to keep it cold) and stop fecking about.

Naturegirl82 Thu 22-Aug-13 11:09:57

Grrr just come on for a moan. A work colleague's wife is pregnant as well (further along though) and he has just made me feel bad that I've not yet really done any baby planning. I've still got time to look into nappies and things and I do have everything else apart from a pram sorted. Please tell me I've got time. confused

Oh and I'm another one worrying about the 20 week scan. Especially as I know someone who was that one person where there was something wrong. But I'm consoling myself with the fact that it is perfectly normal to worry.

TobyLerone Thu 22-Aug-13 11:29:08

I had a headache this morning too, Humpty. Must be the weather.

Nature, we will start a 'we haven't done anything yet' club of our very own. We've got loads of time. I have just washed a load of my sister's baby clothes she looked out for me at the weekend. That is it. I was waiting for after the scan before I did anything, just in case. Now I have to have a repeat of the scan, so I'm procrastinating until after that. There will always be an excuse!

MrsGSR Thu 22-Aug-13 11:36:37

Good luck for the scans today and tomorrow, I'm sure they'll all be amazing. I almost cried at mine.

I think I read that we've got another team Blue, one team pink and a team yellow, I can't remember who is who but congratulations on all the good scans!

Me and DH looked after our nephew yesterday. He's 2 and a half and very cute. DH had an appointment at the bank so I took DN to the park, and then came over really dizzy. Luckily DH wasn't gone to long, he got back just as my vision started to blur so I was able to sit under a tree and have a rest. I have a new found respect for all of you doing this with full time toddlers!

MrsGSR Thu 22-Aug-13 11:42:40

nature I haven't done anything since the 12 week scan. Before the scan I bought a moses basket (as it was £14 new at asda!) and a few packs of white babygrows. I'm not really planning on doing much more for a few months, I'm hoping the pram we want will go on offer in the next few months, so I'm waiting hopefully! I'm expecting most of our Christmas presents to be baby related so I'm leaving most of the small bits until the last minute! As baby will be in with us for 6 months I've not done anything to the spare room that will become the nursery. Kiddicare do next day delivery so I plan on ordering a cot when she starts to outgrow the basket!

nature if it helps, my Mum keeps telling me I'm too organised ("why are you buying baby clothes already <martyred sigh at world's most profligate daughter>") and saying I should wait until October/November 'for the sales' (hmm) and that we don't need anything apart from a Moses basket until the baby is here...

toby stupid weather.

Naturegirl82 Thu 22-Aug-13 12:23:19

Thanks everyone, that makes me feel better. He did just make me feel bad because I've not started pregnancy yoga either yet (was planning on phoning about it at lunch). We do have nearly everything we need thanks to my sis so I'm slowly working through sorting and cleaning it all.

Congrats on all the good scans and good luck to anyone today. Still 1.5 weeks till mine as it is at 21 weeks.

Frizz1986 Thu 22-Aug-13 12:48:24

nature a friend of mine only has 10 weeks to go and hasn't got anything yet.
I only have things because my amazing sister has loaned us all of my nephews stuff and as we live 180 miles away we have to fill the car every time we visit as we only see my family once every 2 months or so and there is a lot of big stuff to fit into the tiny clio with our dog!

Thanks ladies for helping to relax me. Starting to feel a bit calmer again now, but am sure I will be a mess again in the morning.

Good luck for todays scans. Can't wait to hear about them and what the baby was up to in there smile

TarkaTheOtter Thu 22-Aug-13 12:49:31

nature I haven't done anything either yet. That's what paternity leave third trimester is for.

I've done close to nothing - bought one pack of vests and some scratch mitts, and that was mainly because DS wanted to buy some baby things while we bought his school uniform.

Need to buy a crib and clothes, and find all the pram bits and bobs. Also thinking about getting isofix bases this time round. Plenty of time for all that yet! I don't think I'll feel validated in buying anything until after the scan, and preferably not until we move house.

<buries head in sand>

Naturegirl82 Thu 22-Aug-13 13:42:06

You are all making me feel soooo much better grin . I think we should all just bury our heads in the sand. What's the worst that could happen??!!

Naturegirl82 Thu 22-Aug-13 13:43:39

Tarka that made me laugh. If I left it to Dh there would be a disaster. This is the man that packed 1 shirt (and that was all he packed!!) for a weekend away!!

Sultanajo Thu 22-Aug-13 14:16:25

Nature that's hilarious! DH is sooooo last minute with everything - if I left it to him DS would have popped out and on then would he be saying "so what do we need to get?" wink

Can't wait for the NCT classes to start, so hopefully it will jig him into actually thinking about things more, although he did say out of the blue last night "just over 4 months to go.....!" which then freaked me out a bit and made me want to run out and buy everything NOW! wink

Still, we are in the process of sorting out the office as DH has we have changed our minds about which room to use as the nursery. So that means moving EVERYTHING out of the office and putting into the other room! Joy!!! Wonder what we will be doing this weekend.....!

TarkaTheOtter Thu 22-Aug-13 14:33:25

Scan went really well. Turns out I too have an anterior placenta.

MrsGSR Thu 22-Aug-13 14:35:48

Congrats on the scan tarka!

TarkaTheOtter Thu 22-Aug-13 14:51:48

Thanks mrsg feeling very relieved.

tarka yay for scans and welcome to the AP club!

Frizz1986 Thu 22-Aug-13 16:06:07

Yay tarka do you think there was something in the water when everyone conceived as never seen so many aps. Won't be surprised tomorrow if I am the same as so many seem to be in the club.

MrsAVB Thu 22-Aug-13 17:08:22

toby yay for uhm... posterior? confused normal placentas.
humpty no HG as such but still on the cyclizine, although FX haven't vommed since Sunday. But still nauseous, especially in the mornings.
I have bought... A grand total of 1 t shirt. Which is 6-9 months. grin
Congrats on scan tarka
nature I am starting yoga next week, I have been procrastinating a lot as it is not something that I would generally enjoy and I am v uncoordinated/ unspiritual and will probably fart or laugh or something.

Mac2014 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:04:44

nature I've bought nothing at all.

I'm thinking an online Tesco order might distract from the pain of contractions grin

Seriously though I'm with frizz - scared shitless about tomorrow's scan. There has to be one that goes wrong to prove the rule. Trying to remain calm but the high hormone levels found at my combined test and additional growth scans they've already booked in are adding to the fear!! Big hugs to all waiting for scans and huge wine to all those fab scans!!

Percypiglet Thu 22-Aug-13 18:15:54

Well, did anyone else's bump totally pop out between week 18 to 19? Mine suddenly seems to be growing overnight... the last week it definitely grew overnight on Sunday night and last night. It feels a bit disturbing!! But glad it is growing as I assume this must mean baby is okay. 13 days to our scan.

Sultanajo Thu 22-Aug-13 18:47:06

Tarka hurray and welcome to the APs! So weird yet another one!!!

MrsA that comment cracked me up! I have been twice to "normal" yoga - the first time I just got the giggles! The second time I fanny farted and then couldn't stop laughing, so that was the end of my relationship with yoga!!!! wink

Mac and Frizz good luck for your scans tomorrow (and of course anyone else I have missed!). It could be my "baby with a large abdomen" that is the one that went a bit wrong, so don't worry!

Percy yep - around 19 weeks I suddenly noticed the bump. It didn't seem to happen overnight, but I just suddenly noticed it and it has continued to grow since! I have been taking a photo weekly since the bump appeared and you can really see the difference that way! In fact I actually took a photo side on at 16 weeks when I just felt fat and bloated (and effectively looked it too!!!) and looking at the pic just 3 weeks later is so incredible!

BookTart Thu 22-Aug-13 18:59:57

percy - same here! At 18 weeks I suddenly looked BIG. Now I'm 20 weeks people are starting to be shocked by the size of the bump smile

Good luck for tomorrow mac and frizz

I tried to sign up for the NCT yoga but they never replied to me. Last week I signed up for aquanatal classes which I'm a bit scared about because I can't actually swim. Apparently this isn't a problem, but I'm still a bit unsure about the whole thing. Brilliantly, they are only £20 for 10 classes!

For all those that think they aren't prepared enough, I've bought NOTHING at all so far and I don't have anyone to pass stuff on to me either. There's going to be a hell of a shopping spree over the next couple of months!

Penny31 Thu 22-Aug-13 19:15:37

Good luck for the scans tomorrow!

I've been feeling very guilty because I haven't really been eating much veg. So I've eaten vegetable lasagne with side veg too smile

I'm just so busy with work and stuff and get starving so usually grab the quickest fix I can find which is usually carb related with not a lot of healthy stuff. Must try harder.