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January 2014 (Thread 7) - more excitement to come!

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Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 09:07:28

The one where hopefully we are feeling less nauseous and knackered (although we develop hippo hands and feet due to the heat!), we are entering or are in our second trimester (phew!), we continue with 12 week scans and test results (ekkk!), we have 16 week midwife appointments and hear the heartbeat (OMG - aw!), we potentially see the beginnings of bumps and feel the first flutters of movement (wow!) and the 20 week scan for some is just around the corner! grin

Oh and we try to improve our diets after surviving on one food group during the first trimester!!! wink

Bring it on thread 7!!!

(pod hope I did you proud)!

Bluecarrot Sun 21-Jul-13 09:33:04

Yay! Thanks for setting it up smile

TobyLerone Sun 21-Jul-13 09:34:10


MrsVDB Sun 21-Jul-13 09:38:52

Checking in smile

TarkaTheOtter Sun 21-Jul-13 09:44:49

Ooh nice new thread Sultana

Is anyone else starting to feel like they might have a bit more energy lately?

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 09:48:41

mrsv I am now itching to buy something after the 20 week scan and with DH off on his summer hols its the best time for me to persuade him to come looking with me! grin I really wanna either get or know what I am gonna get ready for the little one, although I weakened yesterday and bought a jelly cat toy monkey which is soooo soft, and two baby grows with Tom and Jerry on - they were on sale!

Had another quick listen with the doppler this morning to calm the sudden paranoia and found the heartbeat straight away and it sounded as though the little monkey was doing flips in there! Literally listened for 30 secs and then stopped, but it put a massive smile on my face! grin

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 09:51:05

tarka if I dont go out in the heat then yes! Finally! I am going to bed at 10pmish and getting up by 7am wanting to do stuff! grin

TobyLerone Sun 21-Jul-13 09:57:05

I'm still quite knackered, and sleeping badly at night. But I'm so grateful for not feeling sick any more that I don't mind smile

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 10:19:18

Toby I try to remember how lucky I am to finally be over that horrible nausea for the most part every day! At the time it felt as though it would never end, but now I feel like a different person! grin Such a relief!

enormouse Sun 21-Jul-13 10:22:39

Hi everyone, checking in. Great to see you all. Feel like I haven't seen Toby in a while.

sultana where are your Tom and Jerry gros from? Are they h and m?

Still not much energy tarka. I've been told to stop taking my multivits by the consultant as if there's a possibility I have the thalassemia trait it'd send me into iron overload. So am worse than usual atm.

Sleepthief Sun 21-Jul-13 10:48:29

Deffo go for a phil & teds or other pushchair/travel system that can convert to double if you're planning any more children smile

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 11:29:11

Thanks for the advice sleep. Too many decisions! grin

enormouse they were from Tesco. They had muppet show ones too and the hungry caterpillar!,grin

Fuls Sun 21-Jul-13 11:54:59

Hi ladies
Its been such a long time since I posted anything on here but I catch up with all the goss most weeks. But today I need your advice. When I woke up yesterday and went to the toilet when I wiped there was brown discharge quite alot initially then throughout the day it got less but its still there today. I have also been having mild period type pains spoke to a midwife friend of mine who said this can be quite normal and only worry of it turns red! Im now 15 weeks and absolutely terrified. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Im going to ring my own midwife in the morning but im so scared.

Hi all, checking in! Just back from a festival with DP and DS. Loved it, but so glad I took ear plugs to sleep in.

Pram wise, we've got a Quinny buzz from last time which I hope will be alright, given it's five years old. I need to check if the maxi cosi seats you can buy now still fit the old adaptors. Really don't want to buy a new pram, they cost so much money and I loved my old one!

penny we're in the middle of selling the house at the minute, hoping to be out mid October depending on how things go. The market is moving pretty fast ( we were on the market for a week before accepting an offer) so it might work out if you know where you want to be?

I think I felt a little wriggle yesterday! Felt DS at 16 weeks so not a million miles from that!

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 12:03:59

fuls I had brown bleeding for 10 days around 8 weeks and mild cramping. All was fine - no explanation for the bleeding on exam. I was told its not normal but its very common. Try not to worry too much at this point (easier said than done I know)! Can u contact your own mw tomorrow?

Apparentlychilled Sun 21-Jul-13 12:04:09

Tarka I think the model changed it about 2007. I had DD in late 2008, so got the newest model then. It's not that they won't fit in the Quinny, more that after 15 months or so, they want to walk so I ended up driving the Quinny one handed while also chasing after a small child. So I kind of stopped using it most of the time around that age. I think if you had a more chilled child, they might well use it for longer.

MrsRApilot Sun 21-Jul-13 12:13:16

Hi all. Hope everyone is doing ok and starting to feel a good bit better. I've been hibernating due to some bleeding. Is anyone still waiting for test results? Feel like I have completely lost track of everyone.

Fuls I'm 16 weeks and started to bleed last week. Went to hospital (our local unit is very good) and they scanned me and said my placenta was lying over my cervix and that was probably causing the bleeding. I was advised if it happened again to head back up. On Thursday I started bleeding a small amount again and went back up. They again scannned me and baby was fine and there was no sign of blood in my womb. They took a good look at my cervix and said I have ectropian - the lining of womb grows on cervix- and that could also be causing some bleeding. So at the minute they're not sure why I'm bleeding. I've also been having some cramps which is terrifying.

Have you tried phoning the hospital emergency obstetric unit to see if they will see you. They told me if I start bleeding larger amounts to be worried but if it was just on wiping/small amounts to just take it easy and monitor it. FX you get some answers!

On the other thread someone was talking about sickness. I am still vomiting every morning as soon as I eat my breakfast - like literally just making it to kitchen sink - but I them feel completely fine after I'm sick and can eat normally for the rest of the day. Strange... hmm

Fuls Sun 21-Jul-13 12:30:44

Thanks for the replies. I will ring mw in morning. You think when you reach 12weeks everything ok and you will sail through! How wrong! My local epu are only open in the week I either have to go to A&E or walk in centre! MrsRApilot scary times xxxxx

Frizz1986 Sun 21-Jul-13 13:33:33

Just checking in.

fuls I have had brown discharge for 24 hours when wiping at 8 weeks and 12 weeks so half expecting it at 16 weeks too. Am wishing for my 16 week midwife app to arrive so i can hear the heartbeat and know everything is still ok in there. Although I did think i felt something the other night but wonder if it's still too early for a first timer (15 weeks).

I still lack energy and motivation and still getting lots of waves of sickness. If i dont eat first thing then I am running to the bathroom half being sick.
Really want my energy to return but I am def more open to different foods now. Getting more excited about more and more meals so hopefully making some progress.

Buggy/pram wise we are having a travel system. Have no idea what one as it's from my sister, but it's free on loan so we will take it.

lovelilies Sun 21-Jul-13 13:37:26

Eek. Put a bid on a Phil & Ted on eBay...grin

lovelilies Sun 21-Jul-13 13:38:23

Fx all ok fuls we're due date buddies I think? I remember you from the may bus!

bugsyburge Sun 21-Jul-13 13:55:47

thanks for the new thread

BuntCadger Sun 21-Jul-13 15:18:03

Just popping in too. Thx for new thread xx

good luck lovelilies

Just marking my place really, i'm too tired to type sad

Spacefrog35 Sun 21-Jul-13 15:26:26

Fuls, when I had my first major bleed at about 8 weeks it was at a weekend & I actually phoned the labour ward (which is the emergency out of hours number in my notes). I apologised for "panicking" but explained to them I just needed some advice as I wasn't sure what was happening and what I should be doing. They couldn't have been sweeter and just knowing who I should contact when really helped, so if you're worried give your emergency number a call. I'm sure they won't mind.

I'm definitely feeling better. The constant nausea has subsided although I've now started wretching when I bend over (which is nice) but I had a whole uninterrupted 8 hours sleep last night for the first time in 9 weeks and it felt amazing! Hoping for the same again tonight grin

Hope you're all doing ok. xx.

BookTart Sun 21-Jul-13 15:50:45

Nice thread sultanajo I have hippo feet sad It had to take my footsie tights things off the other day, because they were digging in and leaving marks. I fear I will end up looking like a Hobbit!

I've got my fingers crossed for you fuls and mrsrapilot - bleeding is scary and I hope you get answers soon.

I'm 15+5 but still don't have a 16 week appointment or a 20 week scan date. In fact I haven't heard from my midwife since booking in over a month ago, even though I've tried to phone her and have sent her a text a couple of times. Getting a bit fed up with it. Also haven't heard either way about my 12 week combined test yet - toby, have you had anything from WHH yet? Can't tell the in-laws until I have the results, as DP's brother has Downs and we'd like to be able to reassure them a bit when we announce it. Also don't feel comfortable telling my dad and brothers until a bit further along.

MrsAVB Sun 21-Jul-13 16:44:35

Checking in...
Thanks for the new Fred sultana! Hope pod is ok?

Pop2014 Sun 21-Jul-13 17:07:28

Yay, new thread, thanks Sultano.

Fuls hope you get to relax soon!

Its so nice that its cooler today.

Re prams, with dd we had a bugaboo chameleon but it was a bit of a nightmare. Its so big and dosnt fold down properly and takes up so much space in the car. This time were going to try the bugaboo bee which is much smaller folds down in one go and you can attach a maxi cosi to it which we already have from dd. also you can attach the little skateboard things that dd can stand on.

Feeling loads better too, still have some bad days but hooray for second trimestergrin

Pop2014 Sun 21-Jul-13 17:08:11

Was going to say too anyone heard from keski re her call for her results? Hope shes ok and pod too.

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 17:19:25

book if you start to shrink and get pointy ears its time to worry!,grin

mrsa I hope so too. Hopefully she is just chocka and dealing with her house problems....

fuls & mrsra fingers crossed for both of you! Bleeding is indeed scary and unexpected - really never expected for it to be so stressful!

So pleased it has been a bit cooler today! Hurray! grin

lovelilies Sun 21-Jul-13 17:21:50

Not heard from keski, however I didn't come on with our results straight away, it's such an emotional time.
In other news, DP and I keep rowing ALL THE BLOODY TIMEangry
honestly, he makes my blood boil. He acts like a spoiled kid, as long as he's happy, sod the rest of us. Anyone want to swap? He does have some good points, I think, just struggling to remember them right now sad

TobyLerone Sun 21-Jul-13 17:24:06

I saw Pod post on another thread yesterday so I think she's fine smile

No way, love. I'm not swapping. It seems I am in a small minority of people who actually like their DH!

Mac2014 Sun 21-Jul-13 17:33:31

Just checking in...

Hope all are well and everyone's surviving the heat.

love I too am constantly rowing with DH. Last night I was told that his life doesn't change til Jan and I just needed to get on with it... Didn't know why that would piss me off. They are just oversized children.

lovelilies Sun 21-Jul-13 17:37:34

They are mac. But I don't love him unconditionally, like my children, wherein lies the problem. I expect certain things from him, he's great at promising stuff, but sucks at carrying them out.
And in giving all my attention to him, and allowing myself to get upset by things, I'm being a crap mum to dd (not his dd).sad

curlywurlyllass Sun 21-Jul-13 17:47:55

Checking in, thanks sultana for this lovely new thread :D

Mrsra and fuls hope your bleeding worries end soon

I really need to look at prams for going out shopping etc- it feels like you are all talking a foreign language with names/makes! Ive so far avoided thinking of anything as I've never dreamed i could get this far before sad
I do have a pram tho- dp's navy mint condition silvercross pram from when he was born so 34yrs old! His parents kept it immaculate (2x boys) and it even has the origional canopy smile

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 17:56:36

toby glad to hear pod is still posting elsewhere. I am also not swapping my DH - we have our moments, but I feel very lucky I have found such a good un! grin

Bought another friends three week old bubba some really cute outfits and a super soft jelly cat rabbit shaped rattle! Just could not resist. Managed to not go with the "one for her, one for me" somehow, although did make a mental note for later....wink

MrsGSR Sun 21-Jul-13 18:33:18

Just checking in smile

flowers to those who are spotting or still waiting for results, mine haven't come through yet but the scan was only last Monday so I'm not expecting them for a while.

DH has just gone away for another week, so I've set myself up in bed with loads of bottled water and some snacks, and plan to spend the rest of the evening watching Netflix smile I'm 14+4 ish today, and DH finally convinced me to put it on facebook! Everyone has been really sweet, and as most of my friends are on there (and those who aren't live in my home town where gossip gets around very fast) I can stop worrying about who does and doesn't know smile

I'm not sure if anyone is still waiting to have to dating scan, good luck to anyone who has it this week smile

Checking in - my laptop is currently kaput so I am on DH's and won't be on in the evenings until mine is fixed. Grrr.
Have been quiet for a few days as doing wedding cake - I'll put a pic on my profile in a sec. Slept most of today as was SO tired after all that work.
Haven't even thought about prams, or anything else - we don't have space even for a cot here, so need to move house first. Fun. We're probably going to have to rent again, as DH won't have a job until Sept earliest, so we wouldn't be able to get a big enough mortgage until then. Which leaves us with rented as our only option. I may just decorate a nursery and say sod the landlord! If I did and then slapped magnolia back over when we left, that'd be okay, wouldn't it?

MrsGSR Sun 21-Jul-13 18:47:48

humpty talk to your new landlord about it, we're aloud to do what we want as long as when we move its back to how it was when we moved in. But I'm probably just going to put some of the wall stickers from eBay up, I've found a set of pastle jungle animals that are really cute smile

Frizz1986 Sun 21-Jul-13 19:15:39

mrsg we are going to get some jungle animal things too. We decided that as we arent going to find out the sex we would either go for a jungle theme or a space theme as we are both science and nature people. There seemed to be lots more jungle things so we have found some lovely removable jungle wall stickers and a changing mat etc. Even dh is very excited about decorating the room.

BuntCadger Sun 21-Jul-13 19:44:46

Not swapping mine either, he's had his bachelor moments but with 3 dc (eldest is mine from prev relationship but no diff to other 2) he's absolutely amazing and helps with them, works 40hr week but starts early so we all have dinner together and always helps bedtimes. We're lucky I think as he's so involved. This is the guy I've know for 20 years and was never getting married or having kids.. Lol

Penny31 Sun 21-Jul-13 19:57:42

Hi everyone.

Sorry those who are bleeding, just when you think you are relatively safe. I'm sure it's nothing, but I understand that you can't help worrying.

I've chosen my pram, an icandy peach smile think I've also chosen nursery furniture, but all I've bought so far are some vests!

I wouldn't change my DP either, he has his moments but he does his best!

Can't believe it's Sunday night already, where has the weekend gone!?

BookTart Sun 21-Jul-13 20:08:11

I know penny, I soooo don't want to go to work tomorrow!

I hve just had to shave my tummy blush I was prepared for my body to go to pot, but I wasn't expecting to turn into a primate! WAIL!

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 20:10:05

penny I have just been looking at the icandy apple! The reviews of the apple seemed slightly more favourable but for the life of me I cant remember why and suspect if I looked on another it would be the opposite! I think thats why I am finding so hard to decide on one as each time I think I have found "the one" I get put off by a review.... Have discovered a massive pram store near us, so in a couple of weeks will go down there and try a bunch! Very excited by that! grin

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 20:14:45

Oh book that made me giggle! My tummy is also getting furrier, but luckily its pale fur at the moment.... However I have developed a whisker on my cheek which I have to keep cutting! Wtf!!! DH has been taking the piss out of it - you can only see it in certain lights when its long so I will walk around with it for days before I realise and hack it off again!!! grin

MrsAVB Sun 21-Jul-13 20:19:54

Pram talk just makes me want to put my hands over my ears and go "la la la!" There are way too many to choose from and buying something that big still feels weird.
Also have the Sunday night blues, boo!

Sultanajo Sun 21-Jul-13 20:28:29

mrsavb I know what you mean. Just suddenly got the urge. I dont wanna rush it and DHs hols are my best chance of getting DH to spend the time I think its going to require and also indulge my need to browse for baby bits! All my mates popping babies out and seeing all their cute things suddenly makes me want to go hunting. I like to be organised and am a bit of a control freak and this is something I CAN be in control of, after feeling helpless for weeks! grin

MrsGSR Sun 21-Jul-13 20:53:49

I have a furry tummy to. It's blonde, but still very annoying. I have some exfoliator hair removal mitt things I'm going to use if it gets any worse!

BookTart Sun 21-Jul-13 21:07:07

Exfoliator hair removal mitts are a genius idea! Sadly, mine is not blonde. I am not officially hairier than DP. And he has a moustache/beard!

Toothfairy78 Sun 21-Jul-13 22:07:01

Ooh, hi everyone! Thanks for the new thread sultanta.

Have just got back from weekend in pleasantly cool Yorkshire seeing friends and their sprogs extracting as much intel as poss from friends on prams, car seats etc and seeing DH enjoying himself entertaining the little ones. Also had a good 6 mile hike on the Moors followed by some superb ice cream in Slaithwaite. Yum!

And things are starting to feel tight n stretched down there now.

Do not want to go to work tomorrow!

MrsRApilot Sun 21-Jul-13 23:15:31

Thanks ladies

Frizz love the jungle or space theme for the nursery!

As far as prams etc go I've had everything picked for 3 and a half years smile We're going for either the bugaboo cameleon or the buffalo. I have close friends with the cameleon and I LOVE it. We have a big car so size isn't really an issue. My best friend has the donkey and it's brilliant but I would never buy it for just one child so I'm thinking maybe the buffalo as it seems to be just a single version of the donkey. My local pram shop is going to phone as soon as they get the Buffalo in so that we can go and test drive it. It's pathetic how excited I am about it!

I'm also a complete control freak and I plan everything meticulously so we've had bumps name picked for years as well. Sad I know!!

On the plus side we have a sexing scan arranged for Thursday night so we will soon know who it is I am growing in my belly! Excited wouldn't begin to describe it!!

SarahJayne321 Sun 21-Jul-13 23:17:23

Thanks for the thread sultana

book I've had to shave my tum too, how glamorous!!

About the swollen feet, mine haven't yet but my frigging legs are driving me insane!! Every night I get into bed and they feel like I need to stretch/massage/move/saw them off!

flowersfortea Sun 21-Jul-13 23:22:17

Checking in on the new thread.

Fuls- I hope you are feeling better now and please do ask your mw tomorrow, lots off people have had similar symptoms by the sound of it so hopefully all will continue to be well.

tooth- also feeling tight and stretched here in my lower tummy, and now have a firm mass there that must be the womb, feels really strange to lie on my front as it presses in!

Big news though is that tomorrow we have the dating scan at last! Am excited but also increasingly anxious to know all is hopefully well. Am I the last one for a dating scan?!

Naturegirl82 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:07:22

Morning just checking in. Back to reality and work this morning. So wish I'd booked today off. 5 hours sleep is most definitely not enough sad

MrsVDB Mon 22-Jul-13 07:13:14

Good luck flowers

MrsR wow how exiting! How early can you get that done? I'm only 14w this week but would love to know!

Frizz1986 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:34:21

My belly is def more hairy and not blonde either. I had slowly noticed it but the other day Dh just yelled "wow belly hair alert!" Well thanks for pointing it out.

Def think my bump could be arriving. There is more of a solid mass appearing and i really like it. I think it makes me feel more maternal and protective as something visible is starting to appear. (i hope it's bump anyway as don't want it to all just be fat!) My sister said that it won't take long to be a proper bump once it starts as baby will be growing pretty fast.

Anyone else feeling a bit emotional with the duchess of Cambridge announcement? I saw it on the tv before leaving for work and was welling up like a loon. Think it just makes me think that in less than 6 months time it will be me going into labour and i get proper happy (cue waterworks!)

Good luck for what should be the last of the scans coming up. How exciting that we are all so far along now. Can't believe how quick it will fly by (although I expect that it will go much faster after 20 week scan is done and we are half way)

TobyLerone Mon 22-Jul-13 08:40:31

Hairy bellies? confused

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 09:06:23

Flowers yeay! Really good luck for your scan! grin

MrsRA well that's putting MY organisational skills to shame!!! How amazing you know which pram you want - how cool is that? Really hope it comes in soon so you can road test it ASAP! AND you are finding out if it's pink or blue this week! OMG! Am excited for you!

It's weird - time suddenly sped up between 16 and 17 weeks, but all of a sudden it is dragging again! Think it will probably drag now until the 20 week scan....Wish I could go browsing for baby stuff today rather than going to work!!! wink

Good morning! I slept well, not enough, but feeling better.
I'm beginning to feel a hardness where the baby is, which is nice, and I'm pretty sure I can feel it moving which is lovely! Its not all the time, but enough to reassure me a little. I'm 14+3 today.

we got the quinny zapp second hand when ds was born, I think we're gonna stick with that. I was debating getting a new one, but I'm really not sure.

I'm watching Lady and The tramp with ds at the moment, he's transfixed! Makes a change from the Gruffalo

keskiviikko Mon 22-Jul-13 09:29:47

Sorry to keep you waiting ladies. I got the results late of Friday, and Bob has the all clear. Only 2 of everything. Spent the weekend fixing the kitchen after puppy got himself locked in there and destroyed the place and sorting out the bedroom that is going to be Bob's. A huge relief now hopefully I can start enjoying this pregnancy milarky. I am however thinking of writing a book 'the truth about being up the duff'. Why is everything such a big secret? I thought in month 4 the bladder control of a small child would improve, supposidly not it's for ever now! The all day sickness would clear, nope get shares in ginger biscuit. And don't even get me started on the top secret of all top secrets, the wind! grin

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 09:53:23

Keski that's great news! As you can say, you can move on now and start to enjoy things..... Liking your book idea! I think it should start with "from the moment you start TTC you will start to worry and this will continue and heighten once you receive your bfp and will not stop, so you need to find coping strategies NOW or you will drive yourself insane!" grin

enormouse Mon 22-Jul-13 10:23:46

fryingpan I had to watch the gruffalo on a loop. I love it but no one needs to see it that much. We've now moved onto puss in boots.

keskiviiko great to hear from you and fantastic you've got the all clear. Hearing you about the wind!

sultana the tescos clothes are fantastic. We're getting the cookie monster and hungry caterpillar gros. I wish I knew if the little one was a boy or girl as the clothes are cute. Dp says believing nub theory saying it's a girl isn't enough. Thanks for passing on the link

I'm getting buggy envy of those of you buying new ones, have to keep reminding myself that ours are fine. I'm still having a little spotting so I feel for the ladies still spotting.

BuntCadger Mon 22-Jul-13 11:11:04

MrsR - I love my bugaboo smile def a great choice there.

The hairy belly bit...... I've had one since ds1 and it never went away! blush

15 weeks today and feeling wriggles often like a little fish. Zom is clearly having fun lol

keski delighted to hear your news!

furry bellies this is not something I was warned about. I would like the address of the customer complaints dept to write to - I do NOT want a hairy belly. Someone should do something about it...

Back at work today, but no boss, so MNing and baby browsing all day. My Casabu order has been dispatched - first baby things on their way!

MrsRApilot Mon 22-Jul-13 11:39:16

MrsV 'Babybond' will scan from 16 weeks for £79 but if you have the patience to wait another 2 weeks they do a 'justgender' scan for £39 which is a really good price I think. With the problems I've been having we wanted to find out who asap. Patience is definitely not my virtue.

sultana it's not so much organisation as obsession lol but I am sooo excited anout finding out who baby is. smile

Frizz I'm the same - really wanting my bump to be an obvious baby bump rather than it's current appearence of too much chocolate and I think it is slowly starting to change. Woohoo!

frying my kids love the Gruffalo as well and I must admit that I have a bit of a soft spot for Julia Donaldson books/animations.

Haha keski love 'the truth about being up the duff'. That's fab news about the test - so pleased for you.

bunt that's so cool you're feeling baby often. I can feel him/her occasionally but with my DD I felt her far more frequently/easily at this stage and second time around you're supposed to feel it earlier. I wonder if it has anything to do with the placenta being at the bottom and towards the front hmm

flowers good luck for tomorrow!

keskiviikko Mon 22-Jul-13 11:51:08

Hairy Belly! By the Gods, this actually happens? stares at navel. Nope, no fluff yet. I can't do extra hair in this heat. That is definately going in the book!

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 11:58:19

Really pleased for you keski smile

Good luck for tomorrow flowers!

I dreamt last night that there was a problem with my blood test and a doctor rang me up to tell me I must be a lot further along than I am. Took me a few minutes when I woke up to figure out if it was a dream or had actually happened.
Still no movements here, I'm getting a bit impatient!

MrsVDB Mon 22-Jul-13 12:29:42

mrsr thank you for that. My explorer at work doesn't show the website well so can't see the 16 week scan but I'm tempted by the 18w scan as my nhs one isn't until nearly 22 weeks

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 12:32:43

MrsGSR I too am getting impatient! Trying to remember "good things come to those who wait". I know it will happen and probably in the next few weeks, but I still really want to be able to feel movements NOW!!! wink. I think the bubbling feeling I had the other day must just have been wind. How disappointing!

Frizz and MrsRA I too am impatiently patiently waiting for a true bump. For the last two days I have looked properly preggers and I was getting really excited and then this morning the constipation moved (TMI!!) and am back to looking like a fattie again!

Must learn to be more patient and as long as everything is as it should be and I have a healthy happy bubba that's all that matters! Stupid heat is just making me grumpy! Grumble grumble!

MrsVDB Mon 22-Jul-13 12:37:15

mrsr looked it up on my phone. I'm too impatient! I'm going to go for 16 week scan too. Only 2 weeks to wait!!

MrsAVB Mon 22-Jul-13 12:53:25

Oooooh... crown!
Whoever was talking about wall stickers earlier (sorry I've forgotten...)...Are they really removable? Or do they leave marks? They have some nice ones on casabu on sale til weds, although they are prob still more expensive than eBay.
Although my voms are getting less frequent, it seems like when they do come there is far less warning and they are nasty ones. Ho hum. Am definitely glowing - but in a red sweaty way rather than a lovely pregnancy way.
Have a good day all

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 12:55:44

sultanajo It's so frustrating! DH keeps putting his hand on my stomach and concentrating really hard, I've told him he won't feel anything until a few weeks after I do but he's determined to prove me wrong! It's quite sweet!

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 12:58:46

MrsA I've never used them before but according to the seller on eBay they don't leave any marks. I figure even if they do it'll be easier to touch up small bits of the wall rather than repaint the whole room.

Mythreeknights Mon 22-Jul-13 13:08:54

Congratulations Keski - what a relief and well done you for holding it together all this time. This bellyfluff idea is making me chortle a lot - mine is all clear (although the muff maintenance is going to get harder as the bump gets larger...in fact, will probably be non existent.

I think a Truth about Pregnancy book is a GREAT idea - you can put it up as a thread on MN and collect everyone's ideas. Other than still being tired, I am sooooo hungry all the time. Anyone else?

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 13:28:49

In starting to get hungry now nausea is pretty much gone.

Just saw the headline 'Royal baby to be introduced to world with a 41-gun salute and a proclamation on an easel', I'm going to have to rethink our birth announcement idea, seems a bit too understated now...

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 13:46:49

Mrsavb how annoying is that? Difficult to know if that's an improvement or not, but I guess it is if they become even less frequent. Not much warning isn't fun though!

MrsGSR bless him! It gives him something to focus on I guess and he obviously wants to be involved! How lovely! I too was getting mega hungry once the nausea passed, but now it seems to have regulated itself a bit, although am still grazing as small waves of nausea will hit if I don't, but I can live with that! Hmmm, yes, baby announcement re-think definitely needed! At least an announcement on the TV I would think!

Can't remember who said they now retch when they bend over, but that is happening to me too, especially when leaning over the sink brushing my teeth. Have managed to postpone my dental appointment until Friday 13th (!!!) of September, so am hoping by then I won't gag and retch at the dentist!

Mythree my muff maintenance is hit and miss at the moment as it hurts to bend over long enough to do anything about it and belly fat that is being pushed out by bubba is getting in the way! It ain't gonna be pretty once the bump properly pops out and I can't see anything at all down there!

Mythreeknights Mon 22-Jul-13 15:02:26

Anyone watching the Royal Baby thread? It's v entertaining and MNers keep being quoted by the press (well, the Daily Fail/Mail) (does that count as 'press'?)

enormouse Mon 22-Jul-13 15:58:50

mythreeknights with interest. I really should be doing something productive but I seem to be addicted. smile

MrsVDB Mon 22-Jul-13 15:59:56

Link please!

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 16:59:28

I have to say, I feel a bit sorry for Kate. She will be an emotional wreck and have to potentially deal with the public and looking good for the cameras.... I hope they are shielding her from what is going on outside so she can concentrate on the important job of squeezing the bubba out! She must be sweating buckets!

I find all the hype a bit ridiculous to be honest! Bah humbug! Will be cute to see pics of the baby, but I am happy to wait until they are ready to do a shoot in OK or Hello! grin

Yorkiedodah Mon 22-Jul-13 17:43:50

Hi all

Nice new thread! And HG is dying down thank God. Definitely going back in to school this week after 5 weeks off. Not sure if I'm looking forward to it- not everyone knows why I was off.. or perhaps they do...

Who mentioned hairy bellies? Got a bad case of hairy-bellies-gonna-getcha.

Yorkiedodah Mon 22-Jul-13 17:45:17

Hi all

Nice new thread! And HG is dying down thank God. Definitely going back in to school this week after 5 weeks off. Not sure if I'm looking forward to it- not everyone knows why I was off.. or perhaps they do...

Who mentioned hairy bellies? Got a bad case of hairy-bellies-gonna-getcha.

Yorkiedodah Mon 22-Jul-13 17:46:14

Apologies for double thread.. back to the app methinks.

Frizz1986 Mon 22-Jul-13 18:31:22

mrsg I am hoping that they do a lion king moment and get some dude to hold the baby aloft out of the window while Elton John sings circle of life.
I am v excited about the birth, just because it's so lovely that she will get to be a mum, sod all the royalty stuff (although it would be nice if it was a girl as what a thing to be alive for, the first female born who will def be queen regardless of if they have a boy next)

Can't remember who mentioned hunger but my belly rumbles every hour regardless of what I eat. Have felt v v sick today but know I need to keep eating of i will actually be sick.

When has everyone started feeling movement? I thought I felt something a few times last week when I went to bed, but not sure now. Seems a bit early (only 15+3 today) and it's my first so would think it would take longer to notice. Really want to feel something as then I won't be so panicked about the midwife not being able to find a hb at 16 week app (don't know why I am so worried)

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 18:39:39

frizz I've started watching modern family this week (as dh is away and if I watch my usual murder mysteries I won't sleep...) and when the gay couple adopt a baby one of them presents her to the family with 'circle of life' playing. I found it really funny. DH loves lion king, if he sees that he'll suggest we do similar!

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 18:43:52

frizz I too was ridiculously worried for the 16 week appointment and now of course worrying about the 20 week scan! Would love to just chill out and be excited!

mrsgsr I love modern family! Phil is my fav! The lion king moment was hilarious!,grin

Penny31 Mon 22-Jul-13 18:48:28

I think I felt movement! smile I have actually thought that a few times over the last week but today it was definite. It was so Cute. It was like a little mouse running about in my womb for 3 seconds.

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 19:03:29

sultanajo I love it, there's only 2 seasons on Netflix, I'll probably have watched them twice by the time he gets home!

penny thats so exciting!

My 16 week appointment is next week, do they always check the heartbeat? I go back to Devon (again!) 2 days later so it would be good to be able to tell everyone its going well smile

Penny31 Mon 22-Jul-13 19:11:29

They checked at mine, I think most do check. You can always ask if they don't offer?

TarkaTheOtter Mon 22-Jul-13 19:20:53

In my last pregnancy they said they no longer listen to the heartbeat as standard, but they would if I wanted to (I did). Not sure if it varies by area though.

sarahleanne Mon 22-Jul-13 19:26:28

woa a late check in for me...hello everyone

who mentioned about it dragging now? trust me if you think its dragging now, wait until you get to about 32 weeks, then it seriously starts dragging and everyday feels so long haha.
This time is going quicker for me so far woohoo.

Currently looking on tinternet for a picture to hang on my kids rooms wall ( boy and girl unisex pic).hmmmm.

finally getting my energy back, so pleased.Really trying to enjoy this pregnancy as its my last one.

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 19:28:54

penny thats so exciting! A little mouse! How cute!

mrsgsr they did at mine also which was just awesome so fingers crossed they will for u too. Netflix really need to add the rest! I really want to watch them all again! Just been watching it on sky....grin

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 19:31:19

sarahl that was me who said it was dragging. DH just put a countdown in days - 158 days seems much longer than 22 weeks!!! Hopefully will be leaving work at 34 weeks so thats my first countdown date.....grin

Penny31 Mon 22-Jul-13 20:25:25

Nooooo DP just pointed out a massive stretch mark on my boob! Damn

Sultanajo Mon 22-Jul-13 20:46:33

penny dont worry! It will fade and you wont notice it....

Well despite drinking four pints of water today I am still thirsty, have a headache and havent peed much! Am guessing mild dehydration and water retention! Dammit! Stupid heat! Must ensure I keep my fluids up! blush

MrsVDB Mon 22-Jul-13 21:35:54

Jumped on the royal baby hype and announced on Facebook!!

MrsGSR Mon 22-Jul-13 21:48:49

Me and my MIL have been getting very excited about the royal baby!

flowersfortea Mon 22-Jul-13 23:02:42

Thanks for all the good wishes. The scan was BRILLIANT and w e both loved every minute of it. Measuring 13+6 so due on 21st january.

Still grinning!

FidgetPie Mon 22-Jul-13 23:22:13

Hi all - checking in a few days late!

On the pram conversation, we got a Loola Up with DD and will be sticking with that for this one. It faces front or parent (how I tended to use it) is easy to fold away and not to heavy. It works with a maxi cosy car seat. (It also has a bar rather than two handles so can be pushed one handed and is adjustable height so works for taller dads as well). We loved it can you tell?!

shobro Tue 23-Jul-13 00:39:25

I've had some brown bleeding and pink too. Scares the life or of you eh. No idea why I have it but have bleed advert I have been busy. I think that although I don't feel I have been lifting to much that maybe I have? Fingers crossed everything is on.

shobro Tue 23-Jul-13 00:40:17

We are due jan 21 the well flowersfortea. Really can't wait now.

MrABC Tue 23-Jul-13 08:08:02

flowers Congrats on a great scan! That grin will be there for a while!

All the pram advice is great! Although can't believe some are £800+!

Frizz1986 Tue 23-Jul-13 09:03:05

Omg feeling worse than sick today. Haven't slept well, back aches, icky belly and loose stools this morning and just feel sick all the time plus the horrible taste in my mouth has returned. Have tried eating various different things that would normally help but they are making me feel worse.

How do I tell if it's just pg related or a bug? Really don't want to go home from work because I feel sick due to getting pregnant, but if it might be a bug then I wouldn't feel so bad. Plus my boss just seems to just say to take it slow when I say how awful I feel. When will this bit stop?? Am 15+4 today and it's been so much worse since 12 weeks sad

Just needed a moan.

MrsAVB Tue 23-Jul-13 09:05:58

Congrats on lovely scan flowers!
mrabc, some of the prams are ridiculous (sorry if I offend anyone...) - we saw a "robotic" pram the other day, with a computer screen to tell you the temp, what speed you're going etc. It also had headlights!
Am feeling crap today. Massive vom during which I realised it might be time for the tena ladies... sad, tummy is crampy, am shattered from not sleeping well due to the heat. But at least I don't have a furry tummy yet grin.
Have a good day all x

sarahleanne Tue 23-Jul-13 09:41:03

Nearly just had a heart attack push

sarahleanne Tue 23-Jul-13 09:42:15

Woops stupid fone, meant to say nearly just had a heart attack pushin my 20month daughter up a steep hill to the park. When did I get so unfit . Starting to get a proper bump now woohoo

MrsGSR Tue 23-Jul-13 10:36:02

flowers glad your scan went well smile

MrsAVB if my husband sees that, he will want it :/ maybe I'll go pram shopping on my own...

frizz hope you feel better soon!

I'm panicking today because my bump seems to have disappeared! I've been waking up with a noticeable bump when I lie on my back (stood up I still just look fat) but today its a lot smaller. I'm telling myself baby's just changed positions and I don't need to get another private scan, but I'm not sure how long I'll last!

flowers yay for your scan! Lush.

MrsAVB and Frizz oh poor you(s), how rubbish. At least it's a bit cooler today? Does that help?

MrsGSR I have the beginnings of a bump when lying down, but it comes and goes. Some mornings I think it's ready to 'pop out' but others it's gone. I was going to write 'flat', but my belly has never in its life been that. grin

So, is everyone excited about the wee Prince? I am! A few people on Fb are being all cool and 'oh I don't care, they're just scroungers' about it, which is making me VERY CROSS. It's lovely, and they should stop being horrid.

Mythreeknights Tue 23-Jul-13 11:20:45

If anyone wants to buy a second hand Bugaboo Ghecko, let me know...it's red / black and I used it with DS1 and LOVED it. I then had DS2 16 months later and needed a double buggy so the bugaboo (which is by far the best buggy IMO) has been sitting in our study since then. It is in great condition and you can switch the handles so baby faces you or out, fits maxi cosi car seat, has rain cover / parasol, shopping bag etc. Wheels are super. I bought it for £600+ and tried selling on ebay but refused to sell it below £250, so didn't. But if anyone wants it for £230 ono + delivery cost, then get in touch.
Are sales pitches allowed on MN? Apols if not...!! shock

Mythreeknights Tue 23-Jul-13 11:23:45

Humpty I couldn't agree more - it's brilliant and they are brilliant and all these too cool for school (or should it be '2 kool 4 skool') types who arch their brows and say how bored they are by it all, can't be human.

MrsGSR Tue 23-Jul-13 11:41:44

Humpty thats reassuring, thank you. I'm a massive worrier!
I'm really excited about the royal baby, even if you don't care about the royal family any excuse for a celebration is a good thing!

Mythree whereabouts in the UK are you? I'd possibly be interested, but would want to try it out first, if at all possible!
Also, yes, they are way '2 cool 4 skool' and should stop pissing on peoples' parades. I've just defriended two (online only) FB friends over it. I'm so not interested in people being all mealy mouthed and unpleasant. If you have nothing nice to say about a nice event, shut up!

MrsGSR of course you are - we all are, aren't we? Worrying = first lesson of parenthood, apparently grin

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 12:30:48

MrsGSR my bump is also fecking with my head! One day seems to be there getting me excited and then next it seems to have deflated! Today it seems to be back....not sure if it's back for good or if it's gonna go up and down again a few more times! You would have thought that at nearly 18 weeks I wouldn't be worrying any more. WRONG!!! Come on 20 week scan, you are taking too long!!! grin

I am not a royalist at all, but did definitely get excited when it was finally announced and ultimately it's a new squishy baby! What's not to love!!! Did get annoyed a bit by all the hype (ducks while gets things thrown at her), but that was purely the press I was annoyed at! The press really just piss me off! They write so much tosh and get away with it, that you don't know what to believe half the time and that gets right on my tits! There are some that don't, but unfortunately those that do ruin it for the rest of them and give them all a bad rep! But that's another matter entirely....

Yeay for a healthy happy little bubba for Kate and Wills! grin

sultana yeah, totally with you - the press are insane, it's like rabid dogs tearing a carcass apart! The posts I've got cross about aren't about that though, they're all 'oh I'm way too COOL to care about something as INSIGNIFICANT as a baby'. I agree the media coverage has been pathetic, but that was to be expected!

Yay for a happy healthy royal bean indeed!

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 12:52:15

Here here Humpty!

Meant to say - great news on your scan "flowers"!

keskiviikko Tue 23-Jul-13 13:23:31

I must admit I am a royalist, but the coverage on this birth is horrible. I really feel for Princess Kate, can you imagine going through labour and child birth knowing that the media from the whole world is camped outside the hospital waiting for you to come out. I've never had a baby, but I can imagine that after something like that all you want to do is slope off home in your jogging bottoms and old baggy t-shirt and put your feet up, not to have to get dolled up to the nines and look fantastic waving on the steps of the hospital.

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 13:26:40

That's exactly how I felt "keski"! I guess they are used to it and know what they have signed up for, but it really shouldn't be like that in the first place. Poor lady! Bad enough having her HG splashed all over the press....

keski oh god yeah - I cried yesterday when they announced she was in labour, not because I was sad/happy, but because I feel for her, poor love. It's lovely news, but we don't need EVERY IMAGE POSSIBLE. Just a nice one of them and the baby when they're ready. It's possible to report on an event without a reporter and live footage.

MrsVDB Tue 23-Jul-13 14:46:21

Just tried to book my babybond scan ... mrsr how did you do it? Lady on the phone was bloody useless and couldn't really understand her so gave up!!

MrsRApilot Tue 23-Jul-13 14:56:49

mrsv I've booked 2 scans with them through the website. The mobile browser is a bit lacking so if you have a computer it's way easier to do it on the full site, however I did book one on the mobile site so it can be done. You select whichever scan you want and it makes to enter your due date etc to check that particular scan is suitable. There's 2 different options for the gender scan, the one from 16 weeks is more expensive than the one from 18 weeks so make sure you pick the right one. (I nearly made that mistake!)

Let me know how you get on :-)

MrsRApilot Tue 23-Jul-13 14:57:28

D'oh forgot to add link!!!


Toothfairy78 Tue 23-Jul-13 15:27:49

Afternoon' ladies,

Just checking in on my way to my 16wk appointment with the mw.

We have streaming 24 hr news on at work and people are just gawping at the royal baby news. Feel really sorry for Kate and Wills and the other patients at that hospital with all the paparazzi getting in the way.

MrsVDB Tue 23-Jul-13 15:33:19

Ah yes that's much easier thank you smile

TobyLerone Tue 23-Jul-13 16:12:04

I've had my mw appointment today too. Sadly it's looking more and more likely that I'll have to have an ELCS sad But we heard the heartbeat and saw a different mw, who was lovely.

She also gave me some tips for the headaches. Last night's was so awful I actually wanted to chop my head off. It started yesterday morning and just got worse and worse. It woke me up before the storm did!

Toby is that because of the fibroids? Is it not something you wanted? Sorry to hear it if not. I think you need a nice cup of tea and some cake to cheer yourself up.
Also please to share headache tips - mine are INCESSANT!

tooth hope it goes well - can't wait for mine on Monday!

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 16:50:42

Oh Toby what a shame. Great you got to hear the heartbeat though! Now, don't keep em to yourself, what are these headache tips. Mine started yesterday afternoon because I clearly didn't drink enough, but then carried on, got worse and then woke me up at 2am behind my left eye! It was AGONY! It was still there when I got up this morning - it has eased a bit, but I can still feel it and think it's gonna strike again tonight, so am desperately drinking as much as possible!

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 16:52:50

OMG just scared myself stupid looking at the NCT advice on baby slings and what position the baby should be in. It didn't actually give a "this is the best type" but said most on the market don't support where they should which is just great!

How can EVERYTHING be so complicated and you need to research and almost gain a degree in baby stuff in order to feel happy with your purchases! This is supposed to be fun and it's turning out to be really quite stressful! Am sure I will chill out more if we have a second, but as it's the first, really want to get as much as I can right!

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 16:54:06

Good luck Tooth! Let us know how you get on ... x

BuntCadger Tue 23-Jul-13 17:08:10

Sultan - there are some good sling threads on here with recommendations. The outward facing ones (crotch danglers) don't offer the support to baby. The traditional wrap slings are good and many different types of holds. I've got a preformed but like a wrap sling called 'closer' which was fab for dd and very comfy. I only used it whe she was small and never outward facing. Then I got ergo baby sling (be careful of fakes). This is brilliant and I still use it on my back with her in (it rests on hips) in hindsight I could of used this from birth with insert

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 17:17:07

Thanks bunt. I was just looking at this one and thought - that looks nice and secure and relatively easy to use and DH would probably wear it also. Then I saw the price....however, I guess if we use it it's worth it...


Toothfairy78 Tue 23-Jul-13 17:59:21

Hello, I'm back!

Toby ELCS doesn't sound ideal, but must be nice to hear the heartbeat, though. After the first scan, I kinda missed seeing them and was wondering what they've been up to, so it was nice to listen to them chugging away like a little train today!

Oh yes, so mw appointment was today and everything was tickety boo. Got given a bunch of appointments, forms etc, to do/remember. Just what my preggo brain needs! I'm so hopeless, I didn't even realise the hospital had already kindly scheduled by 20 wk scan for me! Duh!

Humpty good luck with your mw appointment!

BuntCadger Tue 23-Jul-13 18:07:25

Sultan - that looks like a comfy one. Def worth checking reviews and doing homework. Also depends on how long you want to use it for, for me I still use one for dd and she's 21m, often easier that buggy and great for beach etc. I'm also a bit of a 'hippy mum', baby wearing, reusable nappies, bfing natural term, blw, cosleeping type. wink Re cost, preloved ones on eBay can be great depending on how much use they've seen I guess. As I said I hindsight I should've of gone straight for ergo sling but as I couldn't 'try one' in the shop, I was nervous of spending that much straight off. I may try the traditional wrap slings with Zom but not sure yet.

Mac2014 Tue 23-Jul-13 18:14:44

Hi ladies,

Hope you're all ok.

Just had a call from my midwife. Whilst my downs results say I'm low risk it came back 1 in 220, NT measurement was 1.6 - absolutely fine, my bloods bought the odds up. I had got my head round this, but on the phone she mentioned that my hormone levels were higher than normal so they want to book in extra scans. This is to check the size of the baby as there is a chance the hormones could affect the placenta and cause the baby to grow less (fat wise not development in general). I now have a 20 week consultant appt and a 32 week scan with a consultant being booked in. I just wanted to ask if any of you had been booked in for similar?

I never seem to think of positive posts ... at the moment I just seem to be worrying madly about everything. I spose my high hormone levels might explain that one!!

Hugs to all x

TarkaTheOtter Tue 23-Jul-13 18:20:48

Hi mac - I had exactly that with dd but because my nt measurement was higher my risk was 1/160. In the end I moved across the country and never had the extra scan as new hospital weren't bothered by it. As it happened I was diagnosed with gd anyway so was in the lucky position of being equally worried about low and high birthweight at the same time! In the end she was 7lbs exactly and perfect.

TarkaTheOtter Tue 23-Jul-13 18:25:35

sultana I have a moby wrap which is great for newborns and an ergo which we still use comfortably on long walks with our 17 month old. I can recommend both. The ergo is pretty foolproof whereas the moby took some practice but lots of videos on YouTube. In terms of safety just need to make sure that babies chin is not pushed down towards chest and you have them nice and high so you can kiss the top of their head.
Also had a bjorn for a while but found it uncomfortable once dd was about 4 months.

TarkaTheOtter Tue 23-Jul-13 18:27:03

Ps NCT shop is not very competitive on price so shop around.

BookTart Tue 23-Jul-13 18:33:09

Oh god, I haven't even got the courage to look at pushchairs yet, let alone slings! Is there is a sling library near you toby, maybe you could try a few out before you buy?

Sorry to hear about the extra worry mac, but at least they are monitoring the situation for you and should be able to nip any problems in the bud hopefully.

Can I ask how often everyone hears from their midwife? I'm 16 weeks today, and haven't heard from her for 5 weeks now, and that was to cancel my last appointment. I've tried calling and sending texts, but she hasn't replied to either. I've got no 16 week appointment or 20 week scan booked yet, and more worryingly I still don't have my combined test results from a month ago. Is there anyone else that could help me with all these results and appointments, or do I just have to wait for her? It is making me quite stressed now, and I sort of feel that she should be making more effort as she wrote that I have ante-natal anxiety in my notes. Am I being hormonal and unreasonable?

TarkaTheOtter Tue 23-Jul-13 18:44:53

booktart can you contact the hospital directly about your results and scan - that's how it works round here anyway.

Is your midwife based in gp surgery? Can you ring up reception and make an appt that way. If not, can you get gp to chase midwife?

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 18:50:02

Hey mac - wish I had some words of wisdom for you. Its good they are keeping tabs on you though....fingers crossed its just all precautionary. Very natural to worry! HTH.

book it seems to depend on the area. I dont hear from my midwife (actually havent met my actual midwife yet), but my 20 week scan was booked at my 12 week scan at the hospital and my 16 week midwife appointment was arranged at my booking appointment. Is your midwife based at the hospital? Can you call their main number and ask?

MrsVDB Tue 23-Jul-13 18:50:52

book if you look on your notes there should be a few numbers on the front. I would call antenatal clinic as well.

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 18:51:48

tarka thanks very much for the sling tips. Great to hear others experiences! Will definitely be checking out reviews and shopping around! Lots to keep us busy me thinks!,grin

BookTart Tue 23-Jul-13 18:56:28

Cheers everyone. Midwife is a community midwife, so she moves from place to place but I saw her for booking in at the childrens' centre up to road. I'll try the hospital for the results tarka, that's a good idea and I can hassle them about my 20 weeks scan at the same time. The only other numbers on my notes are the other community midwives. I could try one of those, but I'm a bit scared of making her cross (wuss!)

Naturegirl82 Tue 23-Jul-13 18:59:01

Probably completely mad but I'm about to view a puppy. Everyone keeps telling me I'm mental but I'm so excited! Still not managed to catch up since hols but hoping everyone is ok.

Sultanajo Tue 23-Jul-13 19:03:47

book I would be the same, but I think you have patiently waited long enough! Nothing wrong with asking the question of one of the others. Yours may be on holiday....

nature ekkkk, a cute squishy puppy! What type of puppy? Where are u going to see it? How old? grin

BookTart Tue 23-Jul-13 19:09:23

nature A PUPPY! I will be requiring pictures, obviously.

sultanajo I will commence Operation Nag tomorrow. I can't tell people until I at least know that the NT results were okay, so I need to know really.

shobro Tue 23-Jul-13 19:31:58

I don't think we get a 16 week appointment here. I got my 20 week scan at 12 week one but was told then my next appointment was the 20 week scan unless we had any problems.

TobyLerone Tue 23-Jul-13 20:11:54

Humpty yes, because of the sodding fibroids. They're pretty big. The top of my uterus is above my belly button already, when it should be about halfway between belly button and pelvis. And one of them is right over my cervix and she doesn't hold out much hope for it moving much.
Deffo did not want a section sad Still, we don't always get to choose! I'll also have scans at 20/28/32/34/36 weeks. I just wanted a quiet home birth!

Re headaches, she suggested those cool packs you stick on your head. And some 4Head, which is a stick you rub on your head which is meant to help. We'll see. But apparently I wasn't the first patient to complain of headaches today.

My DS risk was 1:650 and the risk of the other 2 was 1:52000. Book, apparently the WHH still haven't sorted their issues. The mw called while I was there to get my results because I hadn't heard anything either. I never had my proper scan report through the post either, like they promised. Mw told me to call the ultrasound dept and that they might give me a 20 week scan date while I'm on the phone.

sarahleanne Tue 23-Jul-13 20:53:00

reading all this stuff on prams and slings has prompted me to write my baby list. ive spent the whole evening researching on the internet and making notes, sad I know.
ive worked out the total spend for baby no.3 will be £505.92.... whyyyy did I give all my old baby stuff to the charity shop dammit lol.

sorry to hear about the elcs toby!!

Hi :-)

I have a Kari-Me sling, used it with ds since he was 3 days old. Still use it now and he's 2 in September smile

Anyone else finding their appetite is totally off? I've still not put on all the weight since my sickness bug, I only put on 2lbs since then. DH is starting to worry.

I don't have a 16 week appointment, as we have DS, I get seen less. I had my bloods at 10 weeks at my booking in. My scan at 12 weeks, next appointment is at 18 weeks, then the scan 2 weeks later.

MrsVDB Tue 23-Jul-13 21:30:46

frying I'm obese so it might be a bit different but I've nearly lost a stone and half and still losing it slowly. 14w tomorrow

Bikey86 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:31:05


I really have sympathy for MrsA and Frizz as I too have had a day of feeling awful, lots of nausea, dry stretching and I just feel exhausted. Dh and I had a silly argument over a window and I then proceeded to cry all the way through my tea. I just could not stop, dh kept asking what was wrong (which made me worse) and looking at Mr strangely. He thinks I've gone mad and to be honest, I feel like I have gone mad. I just don't feel like myself!!!

As a first time mum all this talk of prams makes me glaze over, I have not got a clue what sort of pram we will need and there are so many makes and models out there!!! So confusing!!


Naturegirl82 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:57:45

Puppy was adorable, just over 7 weeks old. Cavalier King Charles, I've wanted one since I was little. Dh loved her as well. She will be 8 weeks at the weekend, hoping we can pick her up Sunday if not it will be Monday evening. I absolutely adore her but am petrified about the commitment and responsibility. Will be good to have her trained before bean arrives though.

I too am part of the headache crew. Hoping an early night will help.

Mac2014 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:58:52

sultana book tarka thanks my dears!

This is just the start of years of worrying, bump had better be worth it grin xx

mrsvdb I'm obese too. I weighed 14 stones 8 when I got pregnant, now I weigh just under a stone and a half less. I figure the baby is ok, well, I hope. I heard the heartbeat again with the Doppler this morning, it was kicking it! That made me smile

Bluecarrot Tue 23-Jul-13 23:10:12

Hello everyone smile

I had the first Ergo with my DD and liked it, but sold it on a few years back and will try other types before buying another! My first sling is likely to be the Moby or Boba. DP v nervous about using one so might have a good excuse to buy 2 slings! We have a sling library meet nearby so will go to a meeting or two before bubs is due.

We plan to use cloth right from the start and Im still researching them. With DD I used Motherease and Nappies By Minki. Will def use Minki again, but will be going to a cloth nappy meet later in the year and renting a few types for the main nappies at the start before investing.

For car seat Im thinking of a lie flat one that baby can also sleep in overnight when we go to visit the in laws.
Im also liking the Cybex Sirona - its an extended rear facing seat and it swivels so you can turn it to face you when putting the child in the seat. Unfortunately, our current car (which may change before baby comes) doesnt have isofix.....

Im wondering what books people are reading atm? All my pregnancy info comes from online and DPs pregnancy for men book. For the birth Im doing Natal Hypnotherapy CDs and reading Maggie Howells (The Natal Hypnotherapy lady!) book plus one by Shelia Kitzinger (recommended by a friend).

Fuls Tue 23-Jul-13 23:30:22

Hi all
I had an emergency scan last night (thank god I work in maternity hospital) everything was fine! Baby looked like they were sitting and waving at me lol they couldn't see where I bled from and there was no active bleeding phew the relief was overwhelming. Hopefully I can enjoy my pregnancy now (that is until I get my quad test results lol)

TobyLerone Wed 24-Jul-13 06:48:00

Good news, Fuls smile

Blue, I'm thinking about cloth nappies too, but probably not right from the start. There are so many types! My brain gets easily confused blush

HabitualHobbyist Wed 24-Jul-13 08:57:29

Good morning, it's been a while since I last posted but RL has kind of taken over. I'm currently 15+2 (I had my dates put back by 10 days after my first scan) so felt like I was stuck in limbo for ages. The good news is I got a 2nd scan out of it.

Wishing my nausea would kindly sod off as mornings are a pain in the backside (although in a stange way it's nice to be reminded that everything is ok).

I had to smile at the comments about hairy bellies. I'm (unfortunately) rather hairsuit at the best of times, so it's nice to welcome other people to my world wink !

On a really positive note, DH is being fab, DM has turned into a one-woman knitting factory (so no chance of bump going cold for first 3 years) and DMiL (who has just broken up for summer hols) has offered to help around the house whilst we're at work as she knows I'm still quite tired and struggling with heat.

littlealien01 Wed 24-Jul-13 09:01:45


who else is still vomiting? i seem to be getting worse rather than better. couldnt keep anything down this morning and am currently feeling sorry for myself and wondering how ill get through the day at work. another 25 wks seems a very long time. its probably just punishment for pigging out on chinese last night when the nausea finally subsided but still.keep trying to tell myself its just baby telling us theyre healthy.

pram wise we spent last wkend hunting and learning. i really like the joolz day, hoping to have another look at it this wkend. has anyone else looked at this one? havent started on slings yet tho so reading with interest.

Sultanajo Wed 24-Jul-13 09:35:42

MrsGSR thought you would be comforted to know my "bump" has done a deflating act again this morning, after being massive last night. Of course I am trying not to freak out and panic calm and collected because it has happened before and know it's probably normal. grin

Nature Cavi's are sooooo scrummy! Very jealous of all the puppy cuddles you are going to be getting. Just get it socialised at puppy classes as soon as you can (normally OK to start after first vaccination) and you will be well on your way to having a happy pooch!

Great news Fuls - really hope you can start to relax a bit now...

Really sorry some of you are still really nauseous/vomming. Hoping you all feel better in the next week!

Wow - it's really interesting reading about all your experiences/thoughts on prams and slings. I am kind of sold on the caboo DX sling which I have found £10 cheaper on two websites, so I think we may well go for it! Just need to talk to DH about it....

We have workmen round this morning and I have shut myself away upstairs. Really want to go downstairs to get another drink, but I look shocking as they arrived before I had even bathed, let alone tackled my scary hair and face! Gonna have to wait until they have gone I think... feeling very wussy today!

keskiviikko Wed 24-Jul-13 10:04:31

Nature we got a puppy weeks before I fell pregnant. I believe that every child should have at least one animal to grow up around. They are good exercise, you don't look so silly walking the streets at 6 in the morning or 9 at night with a dog! Think he's why I haven't gained any weight.

I'm still retching, but the stress headache has gone. Mac I know how you feel, but you are going to get to see baby a lot more than some people. I had a month of seeing Bob every week and getting updates on his growth. I've been told I have to have them regularly after 28 weeks because I am such a mahoosive fatty (obs doctor in a nasty bitch). on that note I'm going to munch on a satsuma while still wearing my pre pregnancy size 16's! grin

book Def phone and chase - as I found, care in your area may not be totally joined up. Don't feel bad for chasing, you need to. Everyone I've spoken to when I've checked things (v politely) has been lovely!

Mac no advice, I'm afraid, but a hand to hold if you get too stressed, lovely. I'm SURE it will be fine.

Toby Grrrrrrr to stupid cuntpuffin fibroids angry. Shall we reassemble the hormonal flash mob grin? Headache wise, the cool packs work (I have a wheat one you can freeze as well as microwave) as does the 4Head stick (I was v sceptical, but it 'cools' somehow and helps, also smells very minty and refreshing). Also cold foot baths, and icelollies. Freeze that headache out.

frying I'm still eating less, for sure. Haven't been weighed again since 12wks, but I'm pretty sure I've put on v little weight. I was BMI of 32 at booking in though, so I'm pretty sure the bean can live off my flubber grin. My MUM is starting to worry about me, which is unheard of - I've been pleasingly rounded since I was 15, so she's always gone the other way, if anything (very gently, I hasten to add!) It's weird having her say 'well, you will have to put on weight'!


Bikey I have no idea about prams either. Planning a day in John Lewis trying them all out at some point soon, I think! Or Mothercare, or similar.

blue I want to go cloth as well - have read something somewhere <helpful face> about the different kinds, see if I can find it. It's quite instructive. Are you in an area that gets a grant/similar for using cloth? Some do see?

fuls yay for waving babies!

Hello everyone else! Phew!

Had a shitty day yesterday - fell out with a good friend who posted on fb that she 'didn't care' about the royal baby, took it WAY too personally. Hopefully now resolved. Also DH had what is probably trapped wind all night and was impossible all evening. He's such a bitch when he's ill, I can't be around him. He answers all my questions like 'do you have a temperature' and 'would you like some painkillers' in such a martyred tone of voice you would think I was sticking pins in his eyes which I quite wanted to do by the end of the evening. Serves him right for drinking all my caffeine free diet coke <mean emoticon>

BuntCadger Wed 24-Jul-13 11:31:48

I've lost appetite too most days, esp at tea time.

Blue - I only used cloth from about 6m with dd and wish I'd used them sooner. I use pocket ones as don't need a wrap (I'm lazy). The ones from little lambs one size fits all and my fave from pixie pants (lots of cute designs). I'm a little lost on what to use on newborn as tho the pockets are meant to adjust they'll still be very big on a little bottom. Saved so much money with reusables and dd loves them

16w appt tomoz (can't wait!) not quite 16 w yet tho am 15+2 but Way next week at camp bestival smile)

BuntCadger Wed 24-Jul-13 11:33:43

Re royal baby (how cute he is!) I do wish the media would back the fuck off now and let them get on with their amazing journey in private

TarkaTheOtter Wed 24-Jul-13 11:49:54

Humpty if you have one near you, Kiddicare is great for checking out all the different prams. They have hundreds.

MrsGSR Wed 24-Jul-13 12:32:21

Aww, I want a puppy! Unfortunately it's not practical for us, but I did spend yesterday evening round a friends house playing with her 16 week old cock-a-poo!

Glad your scan went well fuls!

I really want to use cloth, although I've bought some cheap newborn nappies as I doubt I'll be up to doing much laundry in the first few weeks! Been researching the different types but it is very confusing, and annoyingly our local council stopped giving grants a few years ago sad

alien My BIL has the joolz day, it does look quite nice smile

Sultana Thank you, I think it is very normal for the bump to change sizes in the first half of pregnancy. I spoke to my friend who is a nurse yesterday and she agreed!

I plan on going to kiddicare to look at prams, although I think I've decided on the Jane Trider, with the Strata seat and Transporter 2. I've done a stupid amount of research (DH ignores me when I try to explain how wonderful I think it is!) but I want to try out them all before making a final decision smile

Mythreeknights Wed 24-Jul-13 12:37:22

This is an odd question, but so far this pg I've had 4 or 5 wierd experiences that I wanted to see if you had had too. Basically, on occasion, but in particular when I'm resting something on my tummy (hand / book / arm / small child etc), it literally 'punches' out at me. Each time it happens I cry out as it's fairly strong / violent and sore, and I end up with an acheing muscle afterwards. Yesterday it happened twice, the second time I was thrown back by it, as though someone had reached out and pushed me back. It must be muscle spasms, but has anyone else had this? Either that or there's some sort of alien growing inside me...

Mythreeknights Wed 24-Jul-13 12:38:19

Humpty I live in Scotland...but can PM you photos if that helps?

Tarka thank you for the tip, I will have a looksee.

Mythree If we go to Kiddicare and can try one out (won't be for a couple of weeks though) then pics might be enough! I don't want to stand in the way of someone else who might be interested though. As for the alien punches, no idea, but ouch!

bunt oh totally - leave them alone now. We saw the baby, it will be quite dull for a while now, no need for more pics until it is 6 mo at LEAST. And let her lose her baby weight (all 2lbs of it!) in private.

Sultanajo Wed 24-Jul-13 15:56:52

MrsGSR that is indeed reassuring! Again, why does it not tell you this in books???

Mythree that sounds a bit violent! Not sure apart from a super energetic bubba perhaps??? Perhaps the second/third/fourth time mums will be able to explain?

Great tip about Kiddicare - never heard of them before, but there is one within half an hour, so may well take a trip at the weekend!!!

Humpty men and illness do NOT mix!!! hmm Really hope you have made up with your mate!

MrsGSR Wed 24-Jul-13 17:35:50

Exfoliating hair removal mitts on the stomach sting! Although my skin is very soft and smooth now... I think I'm going to have to use them in small amounts.

There's a kiddicare almost exactly half way between here and my dad's, we're going next Friday smile I don't think DH knows what he's let himself in for!

enormouse Wed 24-Jul-13 17:40:57

blue is the sling library you speak of in Carrick or Belfast? It sounds great, I'd love to take a look. Really want to go sling and cloth nappies for this bubs but have been informed that I'm going way too 'hippy-art-teacherish' by my lovely OH.

humpty the royal baby is so cute but I wish the media would leave them alone now.

I'd love a puppy but we already have 2 dogs - my big lug of a samoyed and DPs collie.

been away for a few days trying to sort things out wrt my course and going back to uni next year. Have found out that my science and language a levels are now redundant (despite doing them in 2007) and I need to tack some science modules onto my current access so I can apply for the full time course I want. No skin off my nose but it's a pain to organise.

Also have a driving lesson with a new instructor tomorrow. Am pretty nervous considering what a cuntpuffin/cockwomble/all round knob my last instructor was. I almost cancelled tbh.

Sultanajo Wed 24-Jul-13 17:51:43

Teehee mrsgsr! Hope u have a fab time dragging him round looking at baby stuff!

enormouse what a pain in the ass about your a levels not being enough! Go for it with your driving lesson! You have bubs with you to keep you company so you wont be alone! Fingers crossed this one is lovely!,grin

Penny31 Wed 24-Jul-13 17:54:10

I too have a hairy belly! I read that it would disapper after the baby is born. Will removing it not make it grow in stubbly?? I'm scared to do that....

Is anyone else suffering from a stinging belly button by evening time?

Enormous good luck with your driving lesson. Stick at it it will be worth it in the end I promise! It's just a means to an end, don't let cuntpufffins bother you! You won't ever have to see the instructor again when you have passed, you are using him smile

I'm v excited DP has an interview for a better job. It's only a 3k rise but it might g somewhere where as his current one is a dead end. I am such a control freak I'm trying to tell him what to say in the interview! I'm sure he will do just fine without my help.

MrsRApilot Wed 24-Jul-13 18:03:11

enormouse what course are you wanting to do at uni? I've just done a 2 year access course and got my acceptance letter from Queens today to do Law with Politics this September. Eek!! I would check about the A-Levels though as there is no time limit on them - they're life-long- but the access course is only valid for 2-3 years which is a bit of a pain in the arse for people who don't want to/can't go to uni immediately. Good luck!! :-)

enormouse Wed 24-Jul-13 18:51:35

Thanks penny and sultana, I am so close to passing so I will keep going. I'm just sick of PITA instructors

MrsRA congratulations, you must be so chuffed. Were you studying at Belfast met or the NRC? I'm at Belfast met and am doing combined social and behavioural sciences and was looking into doing speech therapy at Ulster. But according to Ulster I need to do an extra science module to complement the psychology. basically I can't combine my access with my a levels (biology, chemistry and Spanish). my other options are straight psychology or linguistics and psychology at queens. Am also looking into doing cognitive psychology at Edinburgh.

MrsGSR Wed 24-Jul-13 18:52:29

penny goods luck to your DP!
The mitts have never made my leg hair grow back stubbly, so I figure it should be fine!

enormouse thats so annoying!

Penny31 Wed 24-Jul-13 19:01:46

I might try the mitt thing on my legs, I've never thought about trying that method before!

MrsRApilot Wed 24-Jul-13 19:13:21

enormouse that's so irritating that UU won't accept that. Although at least you can add a module. I was at SERC Bangor campus. I was doing combined Science (Biol, Chem, American lit, Sociology) found the course brilliant and loved the teachers. Those are all brilliant choices - I don't know how you'd ever decide between them all. :-)

TobyLerone Wed 24-Jul-13 19:53:18

Re Kiddicare, there is a big one in Lakeside, apparently. We might go next week because they have all 3 of the prams we're interested in.

I looked at a Stokke Xplory today, which wasn't even on my radar, but which I fell madly in love with! The other 2 I am interested in are the Babystyle Oyster (my sister has one and it's great) and the Jané Trider Matrix. I'm also planning to get a Moby wrap.

I am jealous of the puppy talk. DH says no!

And I'm sorry for those who are still feeling/being sick. It's rubbish sad

enormouse Wed 24-Jul-13 20:28:03

Toby I'm getting buggy envy again! smile

MrsRA I have to admit I've found UU slightly arsey to deal with (not answering phones, emails, generally unhelpful switchboard) but I'm keen on the course as it looks really interesting and practical for commuting etc. Though I may change my mind a lot before then.
Are you going into year 1 or year 2 of your degree? Your access sounds like a great mix of subjects.

Ooh toby the stokke is so pretty, isn't it.

On the topic of slings, we used a calin bleu (one piece of cloth wrap sling thing). It looked complicated at first, but I loved it so much once I got the hang.

I see all of your hairy bellies (which I also have) and raise you pube migration halfway down your thighs. Seriously, if this carries on I will look like a gorilla by January.

I haven't bought anything at all yet. I feel weird about it this time - maybe I'm still in denial! Will do a shop after the 20 week scan I think. I need to sort out all of DS' old things too (which will make me cry for hours, so I'm putting it off as long as possible).

Mythreeknights Wed 24-Jul-13 20:47:16

Humpty that's fine - no pressure at all!! It's been sitting around in my study since 2010 so a few more weeks or months won't matter. And no worries in the slightest if you are worried about buying second hand and prefer to buy new - I won't be in the slightest bit offended. I wouldn't have contemplated buying second hand for my first child but ironically I wouldn't contemplate buying new for DS2 or this baby!

MrsGSR Wed 24-Jul-13 20:48:19

My stomach is a bit red, I'm glad DH is away until Friday, hopefully by then it will be normal colour or I'll have thought of an excuse that doesn't involve me turning into a werewolf...

BookTart Wed 24-Jul-13 21:32:15

penny I do have a sore belly button, but I think it is because I have a horrible scar in mine where they removed my gallbladder.

Good luck for your lesson enormouse!

I finally got my combined test results and they are much better than I could have hoped for. DP is very relieved, his brother has DS and it was pretty much his worst nightmare I think. I also called midwife liaison and they made my midwife promise to call tomorrow, so things are looking much better.

Oh, and now I have a bad upset stomach as well. Not sure if it is better or worse than the constipation yet!

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 24-Jul-13 21:35:39

Hello all, can I join please?

Found out a week and a half ago that I am pregnant with my third child.

After an emergency booking in appointment and scan today they have worked out I am 13+1 weeks and due on the 28th of January.

TarkaTheOtter Wed 24-Jul-13 22:04:33

Wow Another, what a surprise! Congratulations and welcome!

My antental clinic appt at the hospital was delayed by over an hour today and I'd stupidly taken my toddler with me. I then had to wait in the hospital pharmacy for 30mins. Was disastrous - I went through a whole pack of rice cakes and two boxes of raisins as bribes. And they wonder why my blood pressure was raised!
On the plus side the appointment went ok, heard the heartbeat and was prescribed metformin to lower my blood sugar so should be able to eat more. Also told I'll have monthly growth scans and will be induced at 38 weeks again. I'm 38 weeks on New Years Eve so will aim for first baby of 2014!

TarkaTheOtter Wed 24-Jul-13 22:06:01

ooh and I just bought loads of colourful asos clothes as all my old maternity clothes look like I was dressing for a funeral.

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 24-Jul-13 22:18:39

Thanks Tarka, a New Years Day baby perhaps? Has ASOS got some good maternity clothes in then? Mine need an overhaul.

The joy of dragging other children to endless maternity appointments wore very thin today with me too.

Dd2 (17 months) is teething with a temperature, so very miserable, she had fallen asleep just before my scan appt. Good timing I thought. It was not to be. Another small child had a meltdown and woke her up. She then sobbed uncontrollably for the whole scan and kept crying on and off until we finally managed to escape after my blood was taken. Raisins were thrown on the floor, nothing helped sad Luckily dd1 (4 years) was exceptionally well behaved otherwise I might have had a meltdown myself.

MrsGSR Wed 24-Jul-13 22:33:46

Welcome another!

I've been looking at maternity clothes this week, trying to compile a 'capsule wardrobe' for summer. I have a habit of buying impulsively and then finding nothing looks right together angry

TarkaTheOtter Wed 24-Jul-13 23:24:18

Asos had a large selection which makes a nice change from the three or four things most other places stock. Lots of promising things but never bought from there before so not sure about quality. Was quite cheap though for maternity.

Toothfairy78 Wed 24-Jul-13 23:40:07

Evenin' all,

Just having a swift catch up before bedtime.

another welcome! What an amazing surprise!

So you ladies are feeling hairy, headachey, dodgy in the tummy today?

Can I add rage and intolerance to the list? I seem to have been surrounded by morons at work today. Have felt like a beacon in a sea of idiots! It hasn't helped with the dull headache/ head cold thing I've got going. Glad my boss is sympathetic!

In other news, it looks like there's a kiddicare opening up near me in Hayes.

Anyway, think I might chill down with some knitting before I go to sleep...

Good luck with the driving lesson enormouse!

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 00:20:18

enjoying, I haven't bought anything yet either.

book, glad you finally got your results. What a relief smile

Hi another grin What a lovely surprise!

Tarka, I'm looking likely to have this baby in 2012, rather than 2013. If things continue as they are, they'll make a call on whether the baby has enough room to grow and probably CS me accordin

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 00:22:52

FFS stupid fat fingers.

...CS me accordingly. Latest will be 39 weeks, which is about 29th Dec. Bloody crap body!

I do not have a hairy belly. I have never had one in my life and I don't plan on starting now. I know my sister did, though.

MrsRApilot Thu 25-Jul-13 00:22:58

enormouse gosh they don't sound particularly nice at all but if it's the course you want then go for it. I'm just starting in September, not the best timing but after 3 years of trying for this baby and being told it would never happen it was the beat surprise. Will just have to try and juggle as beat I can lol.

Welcome another :-)

AnotherStitchInTime Thu 25-Jul-13 06:38:30

You might have a Christmas baby Toby, how exciting smile

I am also due to be studying this year. All booked to do an MSc in Environmental Geology. Luckily they have a distance learning version of the course so I can fit it around being a SAHM. It is going to be hard though, juggling it all.

leelteloo Thu 25-Jul-13 06:50:22

Hello everyone;
Do you mind if I join? I have been staying away from anti natal threads until I was sure everything was ok.
This is my 3rd. I have dd nearly 4 & ds 10 months. Baby is due 27th January and I have had scan and score back and all looking good.
I have been terribly tired and feeling sick continuously for the last 5 weeks but just starting to feel better now. I am also starting to retain water, lovely, so fingers like sausages & wedding rings put away.
I will be having a c section as last two were breach due to pelvic disproportion. Not looking forward to it already and have no idea how I will manage my massive ds after the surgery, he already weighs 25 lbs! I think this is another ds.
Look forward to taking this journey with you all.

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 06:59:19

Hi leel smile Welcome to the thread!

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 07:22:27

Hi to all the newbies.

Tarka have you taken metformin before? Did they warn you about the side effects? I usually take it for my pcos and insulin resistance but came off it when got my bfp.

So we are definitely getting the puppy, picking her up on Sunday, eek. smile

TarkaTheOtter Thu 25-Jul-13 07:39:51

Hi leel glad everything's ok and you're starting to feel human again.

Nature I took it with dd and didn't really get any side effects so hoping for the same this time. Will be very annoyed if it brings the nausea back when I just escaped it though! TBH my sugars are so high at the moment that I think I will progress to insulin pretty quickly.

extracrunchy Thu 25-Jul-13 09:32:46

Hi everyone! Just dropping in to say I'm back from hols and will catch up shortly. Hope all's well.

DH seems a bit more steady for having had some time away.

ALSO we went for a cheeky private scan while in the US so my dad could be a bit involved (we don't see him much as he lives there and it seemed like a nice idea) and found out we're having a little girl smile

BuntCadger Thu 25-Jul-13 10:27:39

Welcome back crunchy grin yay at little girl! How exciting.

Just had 16week appt (and 15+3) heard heartbeat 150bpm for first time as felt little one squirm away like a fish flipping over! My blood press is generally lower that average but mw commented on it being esp low at 80/50 and asked if I ever feel dizzy. I do but not at mo so I guess it drops a bit more.

Discussed some birth stuff as I want delayed cord clamping and she was very supportive

MrsRApilot Thu 25-Jul-13 11:17:32

crunchy that's so exciting!! We find out tonight (providing baby plays along). :-)

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 11:26:50

Welcome leel!

extra thats so exciting! We're hoping to get a scan in August that my MIL and sister can come to, but still can't decide if we want to find out!

bunt glad you're appointment went well smile

MrsR good luck for your scan! smile

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 11:33:11

Yeay bunt thats so cool you felt flips!!! extra omg a girl! How exciting! Really glad u had a worthwhile trip and there is some improvement in your DH. Nice to have u back.

Welcome another & leel! grin

Hmmm...there were more things I was gonna comment on but cant remember who said what.

I too ordered a bunch of maternity stuff online - from jojobebe, debenhams and another place beginning with S and some of it arrives today! Really hope it fits and looks good or a mini meltdown may occur! DH said it will be nice when I start showing - well yes it will rather than looking like a bloated whale! sad

Had a moment of paranoia yesterday night so grabbed the doppler to just check all is ok and got the shock of my life! I found the heartbeat no problem, heard it squirming around and then it moved into a different position which gave a really loud heartbeat that sounded EXACTLY like a galloping horse! I have read about it sounding like that, but never heard it before! It was surreal, amazing and so cool! grin

In other news the nausea has returned to some extent and am going off certain foods again......WTF!!! angry

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 11:33:55

Ekkk! Good luck mrsra! grin

enormouse Thu 25-Jul-13 12:07:27

Congratulations crunchy, that's lovely news. On all counts.

And I hope your little bubs hasn't got his/her legs crossed, MrsRA
I sent in my request for extra science and maths modules btw, it looked slightly ridiculous next to 'I already have a level biology and chemistry' but I don't mind doing them.

sultana I'm still fitting into my own things, just. But I feel icky and bloated as opposed to blooming and glowing. Can't wait for a real bump. I'm sure you'll look lovely in your new stuff.

Thank you everyone, for your words of encouragement re my driving lesson. My instructor sounds very relaxed and take things as they come as opposed to the cuntpuffin who was very high energy and obsessed with his pass rate. So I'm going to take that as a good initial sign. It's at 5.30 so I'll let you all know how it went this evening.

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 12:25:41

Ekkk enormouse! That sounds much better! Thats what you need in an instructor! grin

Almost none of my clothes fit - they are all mega tight and almost at the point of indecency! I have quite a few social events coming up, so I HAVE to find something that fits and looks ok! Desperate times..... Not sure going out in just a baggy t shirt is acceptable! grin It seems to happen every week suddenly that something I wore without any problems last week is shockingly tight this week! I dont see it in the mirror, but my clothes dont lie! wink Havent seen my mum for a few weeks but am seeing her tomorrow and I can always rely on her being honest about how I look, so am just preparing myself! shock

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 12:38:04

Good luck for your driving lesson enormouse smile

I've just had my letter through and its very low risk for downs, which is reassuring.

I was lying in my back earlier and baby seems to have finally moved to a more central position, I don't look quite so wonky! When is it we're supposed to stop lying on our backs?

enormouse I am waving pom poms for you to get a good instructor at last and pass!

extra a wee girl! Yay! So glad your DH is feeling less low. Hurrah for an excellent holiday all round then!

book (?) and MrsG and ohgodsomeoneelseIcan'trememberwhorubbishbrain yay for excellent test results!

Busy today, when all I want to do is sit at my desk and MN work on the newsletter. GO AWAY WELL MEANING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND STOP BOTHERING ME.

Frogcatcher Thu 25-Jul-13 14:17:58

Checking in on my phone from sunlounger in Portugal on hols so not been able to catch up very well.

I've managed to bring clothes in hols that fitted when I packed last week but now don't fit blush. Luckily I bought a pair of maternity shorts in the sale so whilst they're a bit loose at least I will have something!

DP & I also arguing loads mainly about DSS. I think we're both a bit scared now that its becoming physically real. I'm also struggling a bit with food out here as I'm pescatarian but a lot seems to involve blue cheese or goats cheese. I have found some alcohol free beer tho & a couple of cheeky white wine spritzers. blush

Frogcatcher Thu 25-Jul-13 14:22:07

Oh & yesterdaywhen I was lying down on the lounger I swear I could see & feel my tummy pulsing. Baby's heartbeat if it was close to surface (I'm pretty skinny) or just my own? It was weird but DP not there at time to see it. I'm 15+5.

Bluecarrot Thu 25-Jul-13 15:42:48

Humpty - no schemes here for cloth nappies unfortunately. I used to volunteer for a non profit that promoted cloth nappies and more natural lifestyle and campaigned for more help. Might be worth taking it up again now!

Enormouse - there are meetings in Lisburn and Carrick. Look at www.slinglibraryni.co.uk/

Bluecarrot Thu 25-Jul-13 15:54:36

There's also mums market NI this Saturday in Carrick ( and last Saturday of every month) I plan to go this week and see what it's like.

I was in ikea today and spotted the Stuva wardrobe frame which is small enough to fit under the sloping eaves in the nursery ( first ive seen!) Took a leaflet to see what DP thinks then spotted the frame for 40% off with v minimal damage in bargain corner... Plus a matching table also 40% off. Snapped them up and had an audience while dismantling them but think they will be perfect.

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 16:05:31

Frog I can see my heartbeat in my stomach, I was hoping it was baby this morning but it's at the same pace as my pulse.

I'm getting really impatient wanting to feel baby move!

frog sorry to hear you're arguing, but hoping it's still a relaxing holiday.

MrsG me too - COME ON BABY, KICK!

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 17:27:48

mrsg awesome test results! I read its around 16 weeks to stop lying on your back, but my midwife said not to worry too much.

frog well jel of your sunlounger in portugal! Thats typical clothes issues! Amazing how things change so quickly!

Well we made it to kiddicare and it was amazing!!! Loads of things cheaper than I have seen them elsewhere AND we have decided on a car seat and pram! Going for the maxi cosi cabriofix car seat and the uppababy vista travel system, which has £100 off in certain colours!!! grin

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 17:28:41

mrsg & humpty I am with u! Come on bubs, give us a kick!!! grin

Frogcatcher Thu 25-Jul-13 17:43:34

Thanks mrsgsr I thought it must be as it didnt seem that fast but you should have seen me trying to check! Other people round the pool must have thought I was mad!

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 18:04:34

sultanajo thats really exciting smile the cabriofix had the joint highest Which rating (Yes, I signed up to Which purely to check ratings on car seats and prams...)

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 18:15:39

All the talk of prams and car seats is scaring me! I have decided I want to use cloth though and that's as far as it gets! Does anyone have advice about using real nappies from the start? A few people have told me I won't be able to use them straight away.

I have had the crappest day. Wasn't feeling well anyway and had THE most stressful day in work. Not helped by the fact I warned people the shit would hit the fan and today it well and truely did. sad

Also my midwife told me to go to the hospital and pick up my blood test results so I popped in today but they don't have the facility to print them off apparently, which seams a bit ridiculous! They are going to post them out to me so just as well I didn't need them in a hurry!

Toothfairy78 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:05:57

Hi all,
I've had a crap day too!

I had a ding on my way to work, it was slight and in extenuating circumstances, I.e. making way for an emergency vehicle at an already packed accident scene.

Moments later I arrived at work upset and told my colleagues and one of them said (with a smile and THE hand gesture) "Oh you're upset. Calm down Tooth".

Like no, really? I'm upset? Well done captain fucking obvious, great detective work! And genius idea telling me to calm down, cos that's a really useful thing to say you stupid patronising twunt. This is the guy who goes around saying he's really into management and likes playing politics. Dickhead. He's lucky I didn't throw anything at him.

OK rant over. I'm gonna go eat something.

Thank you!


runs in
Hugs for nature and tooth.

runs out again to finally go home

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 19:15:44

flowers to tooth and nature

I'm annoyed that I can't get hold of DH. I sent him a text with the results but he hasn't replied and his phone is going through to answerphone angry he's supposed to be coming back home tomorrow but he's left his keys here, so really I need to know what's happening! I've ordered some maternity clothes from asos to calm me down smile

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:24:42

Ooo MrsGsr I like your idea of ordering clothes to calm down. I text Dh earlier to tell him I was feeling rubbish and was having a stressful day and haven't heard back from him. sad

I cheered myself up looking at pictures of my puppy smile

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:26:43

Thanks humpty smile I'm vegged on the sofa now so feeling a bit better. Just wish today was Friday!

Hugs to tooth your colleague sounds like one of mine!

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 19:32:45

Rant alert!

My sister is a cuntpuffin. She got engaged the week of my wedding to someone shed only been with a few months. No surprises they broke up after.

Told her I'm preggers 2 weeks ago. Guess what she just text me saying she is 2. She hasn't even got a bf and 2 kids already. I know I should be happy but I'm not I'm fuming

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 19:42:37

Why are you angry, MrsV? What she does is her business. You know your life is a million times better!

Sorry you've had crappy days, Nature and Tooth sad

Which Kiddicare did you go to, Sultana? We dropped in to a big Mothercare on our way home from shopping this morning and they had the Stokke Xplory in stock, in the colour I liked. DH thought it was great, so we're definitely going to go to Kiddicare next week and compare it to the others we like.

We're off camping tomorrow, with my sister and her DP and her 2 DC. I don't know why I invited them tbh. We don't always get on like a house on fire, so it could be disastrous! We may fall out the first time she tries to bribe asks my DC to look after hers/take them to the park. I have already told the DC that they don't have to say yes. It is a very regular occurrence and it gives me The Rage.

Grrrrrrr @ cuntpuffin sisters.

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 19:49:10

nature & tooth grrr for both your days!!!

Bugger - forgotten everything else. Will have to be lots of little posts!,grin

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 19:50:00

Toby it was the southampton branch of kiddicare. Its a new store and made everything look sparkly, shiney and new! grin

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 19:50:47

toby its just typical of something she would do. I'm being selfish and I know that but we tried for this baby for 18 months (incl a mc) and she doesn't even know who the dad is. I'm sure ill stop being such a bitch soon but all my family were so happy for us and I now feel the attention will all be on her (she's a lot more dramatic than me!) . I'm more upset than angry

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 19:51:11

Sorry, MrsV. I didn't mean that you couldn't rant or be angry. Of course you can. Just remember that you're better than her and you don't need to be an attention-whore grin

God, I'd love it if one of my sisters announced a pregnancy. It would stop my mum being so insane and would massively take the pressure and attention off me. This will be her 6th grandchild. You'd think she'd be used to it by now!

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 19:52:16

You don't need their attention. You have your own little family to concern yourself with. You don't need to upset yourself with her antics.

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 19:54:27

mrsv sorry your sister is jumping on your bandwagon. Are u further along than her? Nothing can take away how special your little one is and when it finally arrives you wont care because you will be sooo smitten!

After seeing all the baby stuff today (& some scrummy babies being pushed around) I just cant wait to meet this little one!!! Come on December/January!!!! grin

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 20:04:36

sultana she said she's got scan in 2 weeks so probably 4 weeks behind me. I expect she's not as far along as she's saying as sounds awful but I expect she got preg when I told her. It really is the type of person she is

BuntCadger Thu 25-Jul-13 20:09:53

MrsV - when I was preg with dd a few friends and neighbours became quite broody.. So there are a few more little cuties around now. I do reckon that a pregnancy often leads to other women feeling the urge

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 20:11:17

Now she's saying 8 weeks so story's changing already

BuntCadger Thu 25-Jul-13 20:18:02

With ds1 my sis was preg (4 weeks behind me) and initially it annoyed me as was my 1st and her 3rd but it wasn't an issue in end. When babies born (exactly 4 weeks apart too) was lovely meeting up and stuff. Also baby shopping together was fun.

Weirdly we aren't at all close now and she pays no attention to my other dc really.

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 20:22:44

mrsv that means you will have tons of attention for ages when your little one pops out and by the time hers comes along you will hopefully feel much better about things.

I found it really hard people announcing their pregnancies, especially the unplanned ones, when I felt desperate to make an announcement myself, especially after the mmc, but I am more at peace now and I know once the little one arrives I will just be so happy! grin I definitely believe everything happens for a reason....

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 20:34:26

I'm hoping so. I questioned her on how come her scan is in 2 weeks if she's not even 9 weeks yet And she said the hospital does the scans between 10-12 weeks. That can't be right? The nt measurement has to be after 12 weeks yeah? I'm starting to think she's lieing for attention!

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 20:48:41

MrsV I know how you feel, my SIL decided to start trying after we said we were, and then annoyingly got pregnant first (sounds really petty out of context!)

I keep reminding myself that once baby is here I really won't care!

sarahleanne Thu 25-Jul-13 21:12:49

Oh dear ladies u r all sounding a little ummm , I can't think of the word.
Babies r blessings in any circumstances right? That is if u r going to be a good mum etc.
My sister is due in October with her first, she is older than me and I announced I was pregnant with my 3rd she was so pissed off and I felt gutted. I never got pregnant to take the limelight off her but that's how she felt . It was such a shame as I was excited we will have babies close in age. She was also pissed off I got married first, even though she wasn't even engaged yet. Is it just sister rivalry? I suppose I have been the one on the other side and I'm definitely not an attention whore haha. I've also never tried to compete with my sister in any way.

Try and be there for your sis , u may feel like she's stealing the limelight but trust me I've been in a situation similar to hers ( years ago) and in all honesty I could of done with her hand to hold ( despite all the mean things I said at the time) I just wanted a hug from her and for her not to be mad at me cus I was having a baby before her . This time around though I kinda can see why she's pissed off but at the same time It pisses me off she can't be happy for me. Am I making any sense? Lol.

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 21:17:14

sarah I understand what you mean. When we mc in October we were due within a week of sil. It hurt but I wasn't angry. The situation is completely different. My sister does things like this on purpose (sounds mean but really us true). It's very hard to be happy for her when I know she's not done this because she wants a baby but because I am. Her getting engaged the week of my wedding shows what she's like

sarahleanne Thu 25-Jul-13 21:18:24

Sounds like she's insecure and trying to follow in your footsteps, take it as a compliment lol

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 21:24:35

Thanks sarah I'm sure ill calm down soon and stop being such a bitch smile

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 21:30:13

sarahl makes total sense! Weddings and babies are two huge things in a girls life and seems to sometimes bring out the worst in us! I know a friend of mine was pissed off I got married before her, because she had been in relationships non stop and felt she had put the time in, whereas I had taken a 6 year time out before meeting my hubbie. However, you have to do what is right for you and ultimately I was happy for the people who announced before me, but it just made me stress out that it wasnt gonna happen for us. Ridiculous really! I have learnt to try and get into a bubble and just concentrate on what is happening with us - not a fool proof plan, but certainly helps....grin

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 21:32:23

mrsv it sounds rough! <sends over a stressball to squeeze>

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 21:39:52

Sounds like today has been a bit rubbish for a few of us.

I get how your feeling Mrsvdb I've felt like that before and it's horrible and not logical, but it's really hard to shake the feeling. thanks

MrsRApilot Thu 25-Jul-13 21:44:22

mrsg <<hugs>> i'm sure you're ready to thump him!

mrsv can completely understand that!

Well had my gender scan and found out we are having.......a boy!!! Absolutely delighted. DH has 2 boys and we have a little girl so I was kind of hoping for a son of our own (although would have been delighted with either).

MrsGSR Thu 25-Jul-13 21:46:18

Aww, congrats MrsR!

sarahleanne Thu 25-Jul-13 21:59:51

Congrats mrs R!!

MrsVDB Thu 25-Jul-13 22:00:29

Wow mrsR how exciting!

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 22:01:16

Congrats extra and mrsr. Very jealous you know what you're both having. I really want to know but I want it to be a surprise! Logical I know!

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 22:02:47

Lol nature! That cracked me up! Know what u mean completely!

Yeay mrsra! How exciting! X

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 22:08:37

Really not sure why I just did this after the day I've had but I just went on the scales! shock I've put on more weight since bfp than a friend did the whole time she was pg [cry] confused

Naturegirl82 Thu 25-Jul-13 22:11:03

My helpful insulting pg app says I've put on 3x the amount I should have by now sad

Sultanajo Thu 25-Jul-13 22:16:25

nature! Step away from the scales wishes she could take her own advice! Everyone is different! My friend is super fit and skinny and 4 weeks behind me and I just KNOW everyone is gonna compare us and it will be really obvious I have become a whale!!! sad

Frogcatcher Thu 25-Jul-13 22:18:44

Hugs mrsvdb. My DP's 18 year old niece got accidentally pg when we were trying & I was furious. I felt like she didn't deserve a baby when we had been trying for 6m. I've got over it though & she's due any day now. I can't say I'll be hanging out with her though given I'm twice her age!

Congrats mrsr & a little bit envy as we're not finding out.

Frizz1986 Thu 25-Jul-13 22:18:53

nature i am the same about finding out. Everyone i know has had boys and due to dhs boy filled family i predict ours will be too but no doubt i will have everyone telling me that they want me to have a girl (i coudnt care less, as long as its healthy). Knowing what we are having would shut everyone up either way but i really want the surprise!

TobyLerone Thu 25-Jul-13 23:01:37

Congrats, MrsR smile I am envy that you are having a boy. Boys are awesome!

MrsRApilot Thu 25-Jul-13 23:45:07

Thanks ladies

Hehe toby a friend of mine has 2 boys and swears they're the best as 'all you have to do is feed them and they're happy'. Made me giggle especially when I think compare that to my extremely high maintenance daughter.

TobyLerone Fri 26-Jul-13 07:12:35

My boy is almost 14 and I'd say that's pretty true grin

Whereas I spent half an hour trying to coax 12yo DD out of the world's biggest bitchstrop yesterday. I was largely unsuccessful.

We're off camping for a few days today. I really wish I'd bought my bigger car already! There is soooooo much stuff to take.

I can't scroll back up because I'm on my phone, but congratulations on finding out the sex! A girl and a boy, how lovely!

I'm just plodding on. 15 weeks today and our baby moves a lot! It's nice to feel, it's reassuring every time.

3 weeks until my next midwife appointment, 5 until the scan. smile

Penny31 Fri 26-Jul-13 10:44:55

WOW some of you know the flavour! Congratulations! I have my 20 week scan a week on Mon so will find out then. eeeeeek!

Been travelling with work this week and Im knackered. Currently sat in a hotel room wishing the time away. Trying not to give in to an urge to have a nap when I should be working on my laptop!

MrsV aw, love, that's hard. I know you know you're being a bit irrational, but I am NOT going to tell you you shouldn't - I sobbed over a friend saying she didn't care about the royal baby. FFS, it wasn't my baby - hormones are a bitch. Also, my sister is a bit like this, she seems to think everything's a race (she's younger) and was very envy that I got married first (I repeat, I am 3 years older).

MrsRA woohoo for that! How lush, now you can buy all the gorgeous baby clothes in the world!

Toby have fun camping, hope 12yo DD doesn't pack her bitchstrop as well...

TarkaTheOtter Fri 26-Jul-13 10:54:01

Very exciting that some of you know the sex of the baby! I can't decide whether to find out or not. DH wants to but we didn't with DD and I liked it that way.

AnotherStitchInTime Fri 26-Jul-13 10:59:00

Hi leel, try not to worry too much, by 16 months your ds will be much more mobile and able to climb on and off things, you can get around the lifting part. Can your DP/DH get some paternity leave and tack on a weeks holiday. Anyone else who can visit to help! After 3 weeks you will be in much less discomfort.

Congrats on your girl crunchy, glad you had a good holiday.

Good news book and mrsg on your test results.

Congrats on your boy MrsRA

Sorry to hear of bad days nature and tooth, I always find chocolate helps.

Hope you are managing to enjoy your holiday frog, even with the arguments.

Have a good holiday Toby, hope your journey is ok.

Tired today, came to stay at my Aunt's yesterday. Her house is not toddler proof and dd2 found it hard to settle last night in unfamiliar surroundings. Luckily DH will join us after work tonight so that I not be run ragged chasing dd2 around the place.

Can't wait to feel movement, still sinking in here. Until I saw the scan on Wednesday I wasn't 100% convinced that there was really a baby in there. I heard the heartbeat in the scan as the sonographer put it on to try a calm dd2. I haven't had any symptoms, no sore boobs, maybe because I am still breastfeeding dd2. Nothing like my last two pregnancies, I was sick as a dog.

keskiviikko Fri 26-Jul-13 11:07:21

I am tempted to find out what Bob is. But there again it doesn't bother me and I think it would be nice to have a surprise. Also not doing pink or pastels it isn't like I have to buy a specific wardrobe for it. My mum has found somewhere that sells unusual colours of baby wool, so she is in her element knitting black and orange and black and red stripey jumpers, a little black cardigan with ears on it and a multi coloured pair of trousers. She was really excited when I showed her the pram we are thinking of buying as she had a pattern and some black and grey wool to knit up a blanket. Good thing Bob is coming in winter and will need to be warm for our trip to northern Finland in February (booked before I got up the duff!)

MrsV it can be a bit irritating when a sibling copies you, especially when it's something as exciting as this. Let's hope she ballons, while you glow your way through this pregnancy.

Toby have fun camping, at least it will be cooler in the tent at night!

sarahleanne Fri 26-Jul-13 16:22:08

im on the 'not finding out ' team too but I am sooo tempted and you lot are making me worse haha grin

enormouse Fri 26-Jul-13 16:54:46

I think I'm for finding out.smile I'm trying to resist temptation but it's so hard to wait to buy things. I did suggest that we buy things for both genders and return the gender bubs isn't. But have been told that's 'ridiculous' and 'impractical'.

congratulations MrsRA

Also thanks all the well wishers for my driving lesson, you lot are so lovely btw. It went well and he appears not to be a cuntpuffin. I'm quietly optimistic, yet cautious (a bit like the early days of a relationship grin but with a driving instructor).

I'll need to go back through this thread now and see what's been going on.

Toothfairy78 Fri 26-Jul-13 17:04:24

Gosh, I'm hoping things have improved since yesterday for you ladies...nature MrsV mrsG

And thank you for the sympathy and hugs. Most definitely appreciated.

Yesterday's debacle has escalated with colleague totally blanking me today. Another colleague reckons it may be a combo of loss of face and having been bollocked by a woman. Pathetic really.

Anyway day was great as I told head of dept I'm preggers. Hugs all round followed by a "you are ONLY going on leave? You're not leaving are you?". Which was nice.

Also nice was one of my littler projects somehow getting into our corporate newsletter. Go meeeeee!!!!

Right, the in laws have arrived to coo and ah at my belly. See you later!

qumquat Fri 26-Jul-13 17:21:22

Hello everyone. I've been a major lurker but very rarely posted as I'm not sure what to say really! Just wanted to say how lovely it is to hear everyone's news and updates, it's made me feel so much less alone especially through the endless vomiting! Might be able to post a bit more now it's school holidays and I'm not permanently attached to the toilet bowl..,

I'm a definite no to finding out the sex, although for the first time I've been tempted reading this thread! I can't see any practical issues as babygrows are unisex (I assume!), and I don't plan on going down any pink/blue route for the nursery. Mainly if I know I'll be disappointed I only have one name to plan, I love thinking of names!

Am starting to get addicted to eBay looking for bargains. The time runs out on my fave buggy this afternoon, ridiculously excited that I might own a buggy by the end of the day!

MissTink Fri 26-Jul-13 18:53:57

Hi, new to the site I am due on the 7th jan with my first child. I am super excited about my next scan although they can't fit me in until week 21 which is a little frustrating. Sickness is starting to pass but got a terrible pain on my left side ribs and back has anyone else had this??? X

BuntCadger Fri 26-Jul-13 19:43:03

Anotherstitch - my boobs haven't been sore either and ok still bfing dd. when I was pg with dd I was still bfing ds2 although only once a day really. I did notice I'd get sore nipples at times.

Off to camp bestival on Thursday! Eep

Naturegirl82 Sat 27-Jul-13 10:01:20

Hello MissTink.

I actually managed to have a lie in this morning (although dh came to bed at 5 after a night out, woke me up and was snoring like a train so I moved to the spare room), so I'm pleased with that as have been exhausted this week.

So I'm going to be good and do some housework before we go out shopping to look at baby stuff, maternity clothes and buy everything we need for the puppy grin . I'm surprised I slept at all I'm so excited. This time tomorrow she will be home with us eek! grin grin grin grin

Hope everyone has a lovely day planned.

Sultanajo Sat 27-Jul-13 10:48:43

nature omg! Baby stuff AND pupster stuff! Feel like I am going to explode at the cuteness!!! grin Have a fab time buying all your bits!

Am proud of myself - got up early, bought a bunch of fruit to snack on and took some maternity clothes to the post office to return them. Now however I feel as though I could go back to bed. Mum is popping over in a bit though so nap will have to wait....grin

MrsVDB Sat 27-Jul-13 11:36:32

So Doppler arrived today. Don't think I could find heartbeat. Found one but timed it and then timed my own and think it was the same. Anyone else had issues? Any tips where to press etc?

Penny31 Sat 27-Jul-13 11:43:59

MrsV I found my babies heartbeat by follow belly button down to hair line and then moving left a little. You have to press quite firmly and move it about a mm at a time! Sometimes baby is behind placenta or moving about so you can't hear it. I watched a YouTube video on how to do it. Good luck!

Penny31 Sat 27-Jul-13 11:44:44

Has anyone else got swollen feet? My right one has doubled I size and I'm a bit worried?

BookTart Sat 27-Jul-13 12:16:04

Mrsv, mine is always still right down by the hairline, even though I have a massive bump it could swim around in. Aim lower than you think, and like Penny said move a tiny bit at a time. Your heartbeat will be about 80ish, the artery nearby will be 120, and baby's will be even higher.

penny, yes! by the end of the day my feet are massive and swollen. I'm quite the catch right now, with my giant feet and hairy belly smile

nature PUPPY!

Frizz1986 Sat 27-Jul-13 12:19:16

nature very exciting. Puppies are awesome, although glad mine has grown up a bit (she is 4 but still acts like a puppy lol)

Did well today and got up, did the weeks shop for £26 (major budget now Dh has finished work) and then we spent 2 hours cleaning the house downstairs to get rid of clutter. Gonna have the rest of the day off then tomorrow we are going to sort upstairs so we can get the nursery clear of everything. Thankfully I am on a long weekend so have Monday off work and then midwife is on wed. Soooo excited to hear the heartbeat.

penny no swollen feet for me yet, but i have massive size 7-8 things anyway so not sure how much bigger they can get.

Anyone else finding that their boobs and bellies are wobbling as their heart beats? My heartbeat is v loud these days, proper thud like (i assume because e volume of blood has increased) but wondered if anyone one else was finding the same thing. It's rather weird.

Penny31 Sat 27-Jul-13 12:42:34

Only one foot is swollen, it's huge, like twice the size of the other one. Should I be worried?

Penny31 Sat 27-Jul-13 13:05:43

Frizz I think sometimes I seem to wobble! I know what you mean!

Sultanajo Sat 27-Jul-13 14:03:48

mrsv mine used to be right down by the hairline but at 18 weeks its midway between hairline and belly button - usually find it slightky to the left but this morning it was more central bad sultana for checking several times a week after saying I would only do it once a week.

penny both my feet swell when its hot - they are relatively swollen now - not sure about just one being swollen....does it hurt? Have you injured it in any way?

Sultanajo Sat 27-Jul-13 14:04:36

frizz not all the time, but I have seen my belly pulsing with my heartbeat sometimes....

MrsGSR Sat 27-Jul-13 15:39:56

frizz I can see my heartbeat in my stomach and my left boob. It's quite strange, especially as my boobs are currently huge so I wouldn't expect it!
I'll have a proper catch up later smile

lovelilies Sat 27-Jul-13 16:02:21

penny I'd go to docs/a&e with one swollen foot - might be nothing but if it's just one I'd be concerned about cellulitis/ DVT. Don't mean to be alarmist, but it needs checking smile

On another note, heard Pip's heartbeat up at the antenatal clinic at hospital, was just ringing up about 16 week apt and midwife was lovely and said just to pop up whenever and they'd have a listen! grin
Especially reassuring after the CVS to know all is ok as not felt any movement yet. BTW she found heart about 5 cm up from hairline to the right smile

Toothfairy78 Sat 27-Jul-13 16:37:47

Yay! Baby shopping all round!

Have been out with MIL and bought first baby things! Some babygros with grey elephants on and some with other animals. And some mitts and a sleepsuit with little bear paw prints on the feet! The in laws also brought down DH's Chinese dressing gown with dragon on the back, which was intended for him as a baby. It's soooooo cute! And one of their friends sent a knitted teddy down from oop north!

In laws are now downstairs painting and sewing us some nice new curtains, while I finish knitting an elephant toy for friend's bub.

Not bad for a Saturday, eh?

Sultanajo Sat 27-Jul-13 17:56:16

Yay love - very reassuring hearing the heartbeat! grin

tooth how exciting! We are hopefully going to get our pram tomorrow while it is still on sale! grin

MrsVDB Sat 27-Jul-13 18:09:28

Thanks everyone. Found it! 160bpm smile

Sultanajo Sat 27-Jul-13 18:23:01

Woop woop mrsv! grin

Naturegirl82 Sat 27-Jul-13 19:37:23

Well the puppy shopping went well. Everything we need for her arrival tomorrow.

Baby shopping was just confusing. No idea about travel systems vs prams/buggies. Think I'll just stay in denial about the whole thing for a while longer. We did buy the baby's first clothes. A cute little set.

sarahleanne Sat 27-Jul-13 20:25:22

just been browsing through other threads and it looks like we have a mention from I think the December thread saying how our thread is on number 7 already lol,we are famous for are talking!! and endless rambling grin

was feeling baby move the other week and then this week,nothing!! it doesn't matter how still I lay and for how long this baby will not prod me confused

congrats mrsv on finding the heartbeat. I have my 16 week midwife appointment on Monday .

had a few days of feeling awake, not just feel exhausted again...something to do with the school holidays maybe and DS is at home and DD,someone help me please!

Frizz1986 Sat 27-Jul-13 20:41:59

So jealous of all those heartbeats. Have to wait until wed for mine. Really hope they do the heart beat, will they def do it or will i need to ask??

I def think i felt movement last week a few nights running, but now nothing. Def bump appearing, just above from the hair line there is very much a hard slope outwards so am sure it wont be long before the belly gets hard too. Eeeeekk!! Cant wait to look what i call 'proper pregnant'

Naturegirl82 Sat 27-Jul-13 20:47:05

Jealous of all the 16 week appointments. My next one isn't until I'm 18 weeks sad

Frogcatcher Sat 27-Jul-13 22:31:39

frizz I had a massive pulsating tummy moment with my heartbeat when I was lying on the lounger on hols. It looked so freaky! My midwife also only does 18 wk appts nature but she's on hols when mine was due so I've managed to sneak in wk after next but it will be 17+4 then anyway.

Naturegirl82 Sun 28-Jul-13 08:11:11

It's puppy collection day. Oh my god I'm going to burst with excitement! 1 hour to finish getting the house as puppy proof as possible!

Glad I'm not the only one with an 18 week appointment frog. At leasr it won't be a long wait afterwards until our next scan.

MrsVDB Sun 28-Jul-13 08:28:25

Woo nature how exciting!!

Frizz1986 Sun 28-Jul-13 08:55:15

nature it is impossible to puppy proof. They will always find a way of getting where you dont want them to go and then they will just do the cutest face at you so you cant tell them off lol.

Enjoy bringing home your fluffy bundle smile

MrsVDB Sun 28-Jul-13 08:55:48

Asda has 20% off all baby clothes this weekend and they have some cute bits. As we will be having winter babies are you getting mostly long sleeved baby grows or a mixture? I have no idea when they wear all the things? Just buying cute things at the moment and figured I'd work it out ha ha. Although I did resist a cute dressing gown yesterday as it was the fleecy type and I couldn't figure out when baby would ever wear this??

MrsAVB Sun 28-Jul-13 09:19:25

Morning all!
So this morning my "bump" (I am also waiting to look "proper pregnant" rather than a bit fatter than normal frizz) was lopsided, definitely bigger on the left side. Anyone else had this?
Am still ignoring all decisions re buying prams etc, far too scary. Went to a big kiddycare and it was like being in hell... I think I need to man up and get with the programme!
I forget what everyone else said, but re. heartbeats at 16 week appointments, my maternity notes book from the hospital lists all the appointments and what they do and fetal heartbeat is listed for the 16 week appointment and they did it at mine. My next scan isn't til 22 weeks though boo...
penny how is your foot today?

Sultanajo Sun 28-Jul-13 09:50:53

nature you are gonna have the best day!!! Give pupster a huge hug from auntie Sultana!!! grin

mrsv at the moment I am trying to think logically, but in all honesty I have been winging it a bit when looking at clothes, probably why I have hardly bought anything....

mrsavb there is still tons of time for you to find your happy place in kiddicare! grin I got ridiculously excited when I went, but it made me impatient because it feels like such a long time before we will be using the bits and bobs we are gonna be buying!

Just under two weeks til 20 week scan! Seeing my mates 4 week old baby last week made me really broody! Cant wait til dec/jan to meet our little bundle! grin

penny how u doing today?

BabyshamBambi456 Sun 28-Jul-13 11:25:34

Hi everyone! Not been on for ages as was off on me hols in Dev

BabyshamBambi456 Sun 28-Jul-13 11:56:24

Hi everyone! Not been on in ages as we were on our hols in dev

BabyshamBambi456 Sun 28-Jul-13 12:04:02

Sorry about the two above! I don't know how to get rid! Anyway holiday was lovely. I'm freaking out now tho with all I have to do! I've never even heard of Kiddicare! Plus we've got a house to sell which dh insists needs more work before we put it on market. When I found out I was pg I said I wanted it on market by August which he said was totally doable but now it turns out that was only if we spent every weekend there thus not doing any jobs in the house we live in or actually seeing friends and family! I'm really worried as with mortgage bills etc on both places his whole wage will be used only leaving my smp to live on sad it also makes me worry about buying baby stuff as I don't even know where to begin. Sorry to come back ranting!

sanityisamyth Sun 28-Jul-13 12:07:39

Can I join in? I'm due on the 3rd January with my first. Can't wait!!

Penny31 Sun 28-Jul-13 12:24:51

nature that's so exciting!

Well my foot is fine today thanks. I elevated it last night and its done the job. I rang the midwife unit last night and the midwife was really nice, asked lots of questions and said it is unusual that it's just one foot so recommended that I rang a different hospital where there is an obsetcrician(sp?). Took her advice and rang the number she gave me and got a really unhelpful midwife who asked nothing and basically said everyone's feet are swelling in the heat, and if I'm still worried to see my GP in Monday.

So anyway since there was no pain I went to bed and its all ok today. If it happens again through the week I will go to the doctors.

It's pouring today, hoping to get on top of the housework and declutter. We have decided to hold off on the house move until this time next year, so I'm on a mission to clear as much space as possible for the baby stuff smile

Hope everyone is well today!

Sultanajo Sun 28-Jul-13 13:40:42

Welcome sanity!

Thats great news penny. Sucks you ended up with somebody unhelpful at the end! Grrr!

Has anyone else experienced this - am 18+2 and the last couple of days, but particularly today I have been experiencing what I can only describe as a bit of pressure in what I imagine is my uterus. It keeps coming and going. Not sure if its a tightening, but it feels as though something is moving, pushing out on my abdominal wall and then releasing. I am a little constipated too. In my head I have thought "is it wind", "is this baby moving" or "is this braxton hicks, although it seems too early for that". Have also had the odd sharp pain too, but these have been really few and far between....

Just wondering if any of the experienced mums or indeed any of the first timers can shed any light. Am started to get a tiny bit worried as am away overnight with work. --is sure its all normal, but being a few hours from home on my own is making me overthink things and really dont want to google it!!!--grin

Penny31 Sun 28-Jul-13 14:20:04

sultana I think it's baby moving smile I have had similar, like a sort of wave of pressure, I don't think it's anything to worry about.

lovelilies Sun 28-Jul-13 15:23:53

I'm getting all sorts of weird pressure/cramps/ niggly pains. all normal from what I can remember last time, plus I'm constipated too grin great fun isn't it?!

Sultanajo Sun 28-Jul-13 16:46:27

Lol love! Absolutely! Yes thats exactly it penny! Waves of pressure! grin

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 28-Jul-13 17:07:53

Hi everyone,

We are definitely in the finding out camp. We have two girls and a family where all the children bar one are girls. If it is a boy we need to know so we can buy some outfits that are not pink!

I had dd2 in Feb 2012 so can remember what I bought for having a winter baby if that helps.

Short sleeved vests for underneath sleepsuits (you can buy long sleeved ones if your house/flat is particularly cold or if having to go outdoors a lot in sub-zero temperatures).




Booties (you can slip on over sleepsuits if really cold).

Fleece all-in-ones

Snowsuit with mittens and integral booties

Footmuff and a blanket for the pram/buggy.

Blanket or baby snug hoodie for the car seat.

Mythreeknights Sun 28-Jul-13 17:15:28

Nature girl, don't worry, my app said I had put "excessive weight"!!! But i was probably underweight to start with (bmi at 21 at 12 week scan once I had gained this excessive weight) so I say eat healthily but frankly if I'm starving I'm not going to fall about fainting am I...I am going to get me a mars bar, he he

Frizz1986 Sun 28-Jul-13 17:58:17

I wouldn't worry too much about weight. As long as you eat a healthy varied diet (once you can) then it's fine. As soon as the sickness goes and i don't need to eat every 2 seconds I will be reverting back to lots of nutritious meals plus fruity snacks.

My sister put on 4 stone with her baby but he was just fine (although would have been big if he had made it to full term) It's just taken her a lot longer to lose it.
Midwives never know how much is fluid, or you and how much is baby. Everyone I know has either been told their baby will be big and it's come out tiny or told it will be tiny and come out big. Just eat the right stuff for u both to be as healthy as poss and all will be good.

Hope that everyone is a nice enjoyable Sunday.

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 28-Jul-13 18:13:13

Useful guide to weight gain during pregnancy.

Just eat healthily with the odd treat snack and do moderate exercise and you will be fine.

sarahleanne Sun 28-Jul-13 18:44:52

dont worry too much about weight people honestly.
I put on 4 stone with my first , I was 9 stone and ballooned to 13 stone I really was huge and had a scan for placenta previa at about 36 weeks and was told my baby would definitely be over 9lbs.... he was 12 days late and 8lbs 5 ounces .
although I do believe that every baby you have gets bigger, my daughter was 8lbs 7 ounces and was bang on due date so god knows what she would of been if I wasn't induced and went 12 days over lol.
heres to giving birth to a 14 pounder this time haha grin

sarahleanne Sun 28-Jul-13 18:59:50

oh god cant find a sitter for midwife appointment tomorrow so I have to take the kids.is the midwife gunna look at me like im mad?anyone else been taking their tribe to the appointments?

TarkaTheOtter Sun 28-Jul-13 19:08:00

Just wanted to second anotherstitch's list of winter baby clothes.

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 28-Jul-13 20:08:56

I took my 4 year old and 17 month old to my scan and blood appt the other day sarah. The hospital are used to it, many people haven't got childcare options.

BuntCadger Sun 28-Jul-13 20:22:53

I'm wondering if this is the stage we generally feel fat, as I'm feeling bleurgh and like a frump. No jiggy with dh either as I feel so unattractve.

Re mw appt, I took all 3 to my last ds1 looked after dd and ds2 played on iPod.

Re baby weights, I agree the little blighters get bigger. Ds1 8lb12 born 38weeks, ds2 8lb14 born 4 days before edd, dd 9lb3 on edd. Dd was by far easiest birth and 2/3 hrs in total! Boys were back to back.

sarahleanne Sun 28-Jul-13 20:23:26

Thanks another, that's very true and made me feel better about taking them. Now I just have to hope they behave!

sarahleanne Sun 28-Jul-13 20:26:17

Bunt I'm glad I'm not the only one whose babies are getting bigger.i reckon this ones going to be my biggest for sure.

Sultanajo Sun 28-Jul-13 20:45:58

bunt this is definitely the time to feel frumpy! Some days I make my peace with it and others, when I am going to see people I havent seen in a while it gets me down. sad However, the end goal will be totally worth it!!! grin

MrsGSR Sun 28-Jul-13 21:14:00

I've read everything, but can't remember much!

MrsA (I think) my bumps been lopsided for a while. I can only tell if I'm lying on my back but the right hand side was a lot bigger (which was where baby was at the 12w scan), more recently its been the left side a few times to!

Frizz1986 Sun 28-Jul-13 21:34:23

Ok so I need some help from the more knowlegable ones amongst you. I know its too early to ask such things but I am an organiser so needto be planning away lol.

I have made my big list of things for baby and most things are being donated by my lovely sister, other things like cot bed, baby monitor, breast pump etc are things that me and dh want to buy ourselves as we will want to choose the right one for us.
This really only leaves muslin squares, nappies, baby wipes and other boring things that we require.
Now I am very aware that there are a few people we know who have said they would like to buy something, but we will have nothing to give them as dont feel we can say we want this specific baby monitor etc. Anyone have any ideas for things other people can get us that are not necessities (so wouldnt be on our list) but that would be nice to have as i already have one person who has said once I have made my list, to let her know something we would like and I dont want loads more clothes as my sister is donating about 10 boxes full!!

leelteloo Sun 28-Jul-13 21:51:17

Hi Frizz, it's hard to suggest gifts with out knowing people's budget. Could you ask for vouchers and then put them towards baby monitor etc? John Lewis or mothercare?

Penny31 Sun 28-Jul-13 22:03:49

Ooo we just bought a car seat and isofix system! There was a good deal online. Just need to get adapters for icandy peach which is the pram/buggy we are getting. First purchase - tick!

MrsVDB Sun 28-Jul-13 22:05:06

Thanks another and tarka stupid question but is a sleep suit a baby grow with feet? Thanks

AnotherStitchInTime Sun 28-Jul-13 22:29:44

Yes MrsV, sleepsuits are the ones with feet. If you can get ones with integral scratch mitts like the ones from Mothercare.

Frizz1986 Sun 28-Jul-13 22:57:30

Hi leelteloo i did think of vouchers, but so many people dont like to give vouchers as they want to give actual things. Makes it all v tricky as i dont want to start asking people how much they were planning to spend. To be honest I dont really want them to buy anything as we are borrowing enough to keep us going, but people are already starting to ask (theres still 24 weeks to go!)

BuntCadger Sun 28-Jul-13 23:52:46

Frizz - a nice baby record book? Photo frame? Something handmade for baby? Nice toiletries for baby (like posh organic range), bath tot for whe baby a little older, books (my fav gift to receive), comforter for baby, little handprint memento set, donation to trust fund. Tbh with ours we said we had lots of clothes, but it was lovely getting little cute outfits as gifts too. We didnt give a list, said that we've got main things sorted and family and friends just got us what they wanted to give.

Only specific request we made was to my mum who made a lovely liner, bumper and grill for Moses basket. It's now 46 years old! Done all my sisters and all our children so it needed a bit of tlc smile

enormouse Mon 29-Jul-13 08:49:01

MrsV you might need to shop around a little to get the right babygros for your baby. My DS has long limbs and a shorter body and his legs would poke out in the gaps between poppers with the gros from asda. (But the vests were a great fit, oddly). Mothercare were a bit to short in length. I found the best fit to be Sainsburys, which do come with the integral mits.

frizz have you thought of doing a babylist with John lewis or mamas and papas and putting it online?

I feel absolutely shattered today. We did a barbecue yesterday and I spent most of the time on me feet and am really feeling it today. Although toddlermouse was adorable and in his element and was busy demonstrating his clapping skills to a wide audience (he has just learnt how to clap this weekend). I am finding him very full on and tiring right now. Lots of jumping on me and clinginess and wanting carried about.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 29-Jul-13 08:56:04

enormouse toddlermouse sounds like my dd. She's 18months and seems to need a constant physical connection to me at all times at the moment. She is also completely incapable of remaining still for more than a second so mostly that means clambering all over me. I keep thinking about how lovely and immobile newborns are.

sarahleanne Mon 29-Jul-13 09:05:07

Frizz maybe ask people to buy clothes in bigger sizes as you will have loads of newborn? I asked people to buy 3-6 months with my first and second and it came in really handy as they are out of newborn stuff in a flash!!

Frizz1986 Mon 29-Jul-13 09:45:37

Thanks. I knew you lot would have some ideas smile

About to get up after the most fabulous sleep and i will be finishing de-cluttering the house. Only the bathroom and our bedroom to go so it shouldnt tak too long. Then its only 2 days until midwife app and next weekend I am off to visit my parents. Very excited for this week!

Hope others have got some nice plans

enormouse Mon 29-Jul-13 10:33:40

tarka it's a magical age isn't it? Toddlermouse's favourite thing is waiting till I'm lying down and crawling on top of me and sitting there.

Btw just got the h and m catalogue and there are lots of lovely baby things there right now (im keen on the grey and animal themed things )and lots of discount codes on vouchercodes.


hi all! Hope you all had a great weekend. enormouse the H&M stuff looks really sweet. I like their sleepsuits, so will need to stock up again!

I'm hoping to take DS to my midwife appointment tomorrow - he can wait outside with DP for the first bit but I'd really like him to hear the heartbeat if she can find it. With him being a bit older I'm keen to involve him as much as he wants to be involved. At the minute, he keeps talking to the baby by shouting loudly into my mouth, which is lovely but a bit weird!

I feel fat as a cow at the minute. The childminder told me I was 'massive' this morning, which didn't help. I hate the fact my body is now open to comment. Rah.

MrsGSR Mon 29-Jul-13 10:59:33

frizz kiddicare also do a gift list. I've made one just so I can remember what I want to buy! I'm just asking for clothes or toys as we haven't got many.

I weighed myself this morning and I'm still lighter than when I found out i was pregnant. I'm trying not to worry as I was a bit heavier than normal anyway. I keep reading about how some people put on almost all their weight in the first trimester whereas others don't put much on until the last. Hopefully I'll be able to hear baby's heartbeat on Wednesday and reassure myself!

keskiviikko Mon 29-Jul-13 11:06:48

Mrs G, I'm still lighter than my starting weight. But as the obs made it quiet clear that I needed the side of my house removed and to be craned out of bed in the morning I'm not too worried! The little parasite baby will be taking everything it needs so I don't think there it any reason to worry.

MrsAVB Mon 29-Jul-13 12:37:37

I have zero motivation at work today. Roll on mat leave...
That is all...

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 13:05:21

Hi all, we're back! Working my way through the Mount Everest of laundry we brought back with us, while also attempting to catch up on the entire internet.

I've read everything and then promptly forgotten it. IIRC it was mostly puppies and prams grin

toby welcome back, how was camping? Did DD leave bitchstrop behind?

Yay for puppies and baby purchases.

Cannot remember anything else.

Had my 16wk appt today, they didn't listen for heartbeat as they said it can be hard to find, which was disappointing. But my 'stored iron' levels are excellent, so that was nice grin. DH has agreed we will brave Kiddicare in Croydon next weekend and test drive some prams. Looking forward to that!

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 13:22:05

Thanks smile

Camping was lovely, thanks. I had stupidly invited my Most Annoying sister and her family, and they got on my nerves a bit (well, her DP and her DD are ok, but her DS is a 9 year-old gobshite and my sister is tres irritating and drinks too much), and DD was Bitchstrop Central all weekend, but DH, DS and I had a great time!

Shame about them not listening for the HB, Humpty sad It seems quite common for them to say that now.

I came home to my consultant appointment letter, but it's not until the middle of September. No idea when my next scan is yet. My MW said to ring the ultrasound dept just to make sure they're actually going to send one, as apparently my hospital's entire x-ray/ultrasound system is still FUBAR hmm

Toby glad it's not just me - <pity post klaxon> I was all excited and then when she said they don't I got a small tear in my eye. A cynical part of my brain thought 'if you cry, maybe they will'... grin.

At least I have the next appts booked - 20 week scan is in 3 weeks, 24 week appt is in 7 weeks! GTT booked for end of Sept as well, joy of joys...

Glad you had fun despite World's Most Annoying Sister, and DS & Bitchstrop DD!

Oh, that's a bit rubbish. I'll have to see what they do here tomorrow.

Is anyone else getting headaches? I've had a shocker of a headache at around lunchtime for the last week, and it's getting really very annoying. I thought I was maybe dehydrated, but I'm drinking loads and it doesn't seem to help.

Silly hormones.

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 13:55:15

That really is rubbish, Humpty. I'm sure there was someone upthread whose MW said that and she asked if she'd try anyway. I may have dreamt that and also it doesn't help you now. But I would have been upset too.

YY headaches, enjoying. Paracetamol sometimes takes the edge off a bit. And the 4Head stuff seems to work temporarily. My MW also suggested the gel cooling pads you can put on your head/the back of your neck.

Penny31 Mon 29-Jul-13 15:27:59

Yy to headaches here too! Paracetamol does the job but I don't like taking it too often.

Heartburn is a killer at the mo for me.

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 17:36:42

Glad u had a good time toby despite everything!

Headaches not been too bad the last week but am currently in pain with frickin heartburn penny that just will not feck off! Meant to be going swimming tonight but not sure I will if this continues!!! angry

humpty how disappointing they wouldnt listen to the heartbeat! How exciting you are going pram test driving though! grin

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 18:17:41

Omg! Ok, just found something that relieves heartburn even better than drugs! Mint choc chip ice cream milkshake!!! Delicious, refreshing AND heartburn relief in one! Does it get any better??? grin

BuntCadger Mon 29-Jul-13 18:47:33

Headaches here too and dizziness.

sultana that sounds amazing! No heartburn here yet but I might pretend and have one of those anyway wink

Sorry others are suffering with headaches too. I'm going to get some of that 4head stuff tonight and see how it goes. Boo.

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 19:10:37

I'm not a fan of ice cream, but it definitely helps with heartburn.

We've all been making a baby names list this evening. Boys' names are hard!

MrsVDB Mon 29-Jul-13 19:25:02

toby we were opposite although we had chosen George but couldn't have that now! We have 1 boy name and 2 girl names. It's tricky though isn't it!

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:26:03

enjoying! You never know when it will strike, so definitely worth having a few trials! wink

Toby how funny! We arent having problems with boys names as it happens. In fact the two names on the lead are unisex which is quite exciting, although we both prefer them as boys names. Bound to be a girl now! grin

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:27:44

mrsv George was one of mine, as is Alex! Gonna keep Alex on the list, but George is obviously off now! smile

SarahJayne321 Mon 29-Jul-13 19:29:52

I've picked my names, Jack or Holly smile

Pretty sure I've just felt a proper little thump, from the outside! Felt flutters led down so had my hand there, then thump! Thought I may or been imagining things but then it happened twice more! 17 weeks today. Am I going mad?

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 19:31:59

We want something a bit unusual. We've got a much longer list of pretty, unusual girls' names than we have for boys. But we've got a fair few, and there's plenty of time yet!

AnotherStitchInTime Mon 29-Jul-13 19:53:36

I went through tubs of mint choc chip ice cream with dd1 sultana, it works.

With dd2 I preferred cucumber and yoghurt raita.

Headaches and flutters here too.

Both dd's have very unusual names so we have to find something equally unusual that suits their very mixed heritage. Easier for a girl than a boy , also you have to make sure whatever it will get shortened to won't sound strange, get them picked on or be rude.

enormouse Mon 29-Jul-13 19:55:42

We're decided on a girl's name - Renee after DPs much missed granny.
But can't agree on a boys. I like Felix which is apparently 'too cat food' and Aiden. DP likes Rory and Craig which I find a bit meh. I'd put it up for debate on the names forum but I'm too chicken.

Its a shame George is out atm as a name though, I like it.
also like Jack and holly sarahjayne quite classic and not too trendy.

Before we knew what gender toddlermouse was we unanimously decided on a boys name without debate but couldn't settle on a girl's.

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:56:36

Lol another! Plus the initials may spell something dodgy! So many considerations!

MrsGSR Mon 29-Jul-13 19:56:40

DHs stepdads kids are Jack and Holly! We've got a favourite girl and a favourite boys name, and another 4 boys names we like but no more for girls! Hopefully we'll have 1 girl and 2-3 boys smile

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 19:58:32

mrsgsr if only u could plan accordingly! grin

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 19:59:10

I like Felix and Rory <helpful> grin

I'm thinking of making a post on the names board. Sort of a 'if we like Sebastian, Tristan and Evan, what else might we like?' thing.

We're not finding out what it is, and we probably won't give it a name for a couple of days anyway, just to see what 'fits'.

Percypiglet Mon 29-Jul-13 19:59:14

I would also agree with my body being open to comment by everyone. Likewise, I have noticed now everyone at work knows I am pregnant everyone feels the need to comment on what I am eating. Seriously tiresome.

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 20:00:52

I think my lot have got the message about what I'm eating. I have had goats' cheese twice this weekend and nobody has batted an eyelid grin

TarkaTheOtter Mon 29-Jul-13 20:11:22

sultana I like Alex too, for a girl or a boy. I'm not really bothered about names being too popular. Dd's name is prob top 5 and her nickname is quite high in its own right. As is my name.

MrsGSR Mon 29-Jul-13 20:22:23

I love goats cheese! I couldn't resist buying some last week, but was too chicken to eat it on its own so cooked it into some scrambled eggs. It was amazing!

lovelilies Mon 29-Jul-13 20:24:54

Another Felix over here! And India for a girl grin

Penny31 Mon 29-Jul-13 20:26:26

Arghhhhhh boys names are really hard. We can agree on one. Got 2 girls names though.

sultana where do I get those milkshakes? I'm really suffering!

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 20:31:09

tarka I would like something not too unusual but not so common that every other kid has the same name....

penny we made them. A few scoops of mint choc chip and vanilla ice creams blended with semi skimmed milk. Lush and am still heartburn free 2 hours later!!! grin

Penny31 Mon 29-Jul-13 20:38:28

Oh wow I'm going to try it! Thanks!

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 20:47:44

Good luck penny! Hope they work for u x

MrsRApilot Mon 29-Jul-13 20:54:26

Hehe our little boy is called Alexander Matthew. We've had that picked as a boys name for about 3 years so we were soooo glad the Royals didn't choose Alexander as a first name for their baby.

Feeling so sorry for the people with heartburn. I haven't had any yet but I'm sure that'll come (boke). Went out with DH for dinner tonight and couldn't eat my steak. Now, I LOVE steak so this is extremely depressing. All I could taste was raw meat even though it was clearly cooked fine (and I usually like raw meat). It seems like such an insignificant thing but it's horrible to me as my favourite hobby is eating

We've had a child free weekend so haven't been on much - will have to try and read back to find out the craic.

Naturegirl82 Mon 29-Jul-13 21:10:04

I've been lurking but been too busy playing with the puppy smile .

We are really struggling with boys names. We had two on our list but figured we couldn't use one as it's the same as a lot of friends boys. Not struggling with girls names at all.

Sultanajo Mon 29-Jul-13 21:39:19

Ohhh nature I was just thinking about u and the pupster! How's it all going?envy

sarahleanne Mon 29-Jul-13 22:01:42

im struggling with names too... my sons name is Callum James and my daughter is called Paige Olivia.
so far we have Maizie Rose for a girl and either Zachary or Tommy for a boy but im not set in stone in any of them and have a feeling this baby will be nameless for 6 weeks lol. DH keeps telling me t chill out as we have loads of time to think of names but im far too impatient.

had 16 week app today, heartbeat was 146.

BuntCadger Mon 29-Jul-13 22:10:33

I'm a bit eek about sharing names lol. I won't tell anyone in RL tho. Boys name is likely Isaac or Zachary both can be shortened to Zak. Had this picked for dc3 but ended up a girl. Girls names I'm still undecided but current fav is Eleanor Mary. I'm tempted to try something a bit different tho like Cassieopia, Juno or Erik. Have to think how names go with siblings tho, we we talking about Thor the other day.. But saying hi this is Tom, Samuel, Jessica and THOR doesn't quite flow lol

Naturegirl82 Mon 29-Jul-13 22:16:40

sultanajo it's going really well. She has settled brilliantly. Few mins of whining when she went to bed last night but slept through till 6.30. Settled much quicker tonight so going in the right direction. She is just so much fun smile

TobyLerone Mon 29-Jul-13 22:18:53

We're not telling anyone IRL any of the names we like until the baby is born and named.

MrsRApilot Mon 29-Jul-13 23:14:45

Ok ladies is anyone leaking colostrum yet??? I've just started tonight...

BuntCadger Mon 29-Jul-13 23:34:14

MrsA - I'm still breastfeeding dd so I don't think mine will come through till later

MrsRApilot Tue 30-Jul-13 00:35:00

It's really odd. Definitely don't recall having this with DD, but I breastfed her for 21 months and wondering if that is making them 'start up' early this time. Or maybe second time around it always comes in faster? Pregnancy can be both weird and wonderful!

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 06:54:49

MrsR I think I started leaking at about 7 months with my second, I read on a website though that by 16 weeks you can start to leak colostrum .

MrsRApilot Tue 30-Jul-13 09:05:39

Fair enough sarahleanne Thanks :-)

I had a bit of a wobble ridiculous crying fit where I was convinced I was going to give birth now when I first noticed

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 10:35:13

Loving the names you are thinking of - I also love Juno for a girl, but my son is called James, so it might be a bit odd. (I'm not one for name alliteration). I'm thinking Fergus for a boy.
I am SOOOO DEMOTIVATED. I really cannot be bothered today. I really really can't.
No colostrum for me but I'm only 15 weeks, no kicks either, nothing. Slightly wondering whether they mw will find a heart beat at the 16 week check, but it seems that's what everyone wonders. Meh.

Headaches - yy, so so badly last night. I think it's air pressure related, as I'm fine today! Cold flannel, paracetamol, 4Head, lie down are my remedies, but none of those work too well at work, which is where I get them worst. Have had eyes checked, so it's not that.

No flutters yet - BOO HOO for poor me, no heartbeat listening and no flutters. I might have to cave and buy a Doppler if the mw is going to be a meanie grin.

We've got a few names, but we've agreed on Evelyn for a girl (years ago) - Evie is in the top five, I think, but we like the longer version, and Evie as a nickname. It's so elegant! Possibly Owen for a boy, as I am obsessed with interested in the Tudors and he founded the Tudor dynasty, doncha know! Also it's slightly Welsh, like me, which is nice.

My mum is driving me mental - she's always been v needy, but it's ramped up recently. I know (I really do) that she's sad that her pig of a father died, but she is calling me three times a day. She doesn't have many friends, and has always used my sister and I as a support system, but I want to say to her 'Mum, in five months' time, I won't be ABLE to talk to you for an hour three times a day - I WILL HAVE A BABY'. I don't understand her need to talk over the same thing, in the same words, time after time after time, but I don't know how to tell her to bog off (nicely). Anyone got any suggestions?

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 10:49:34

Humpty, can you say "Mum, I'm busy, it's not a good time" and then call her when you are ready / prepared to have a long conversation? I tend to find in pg, I am much more direct / prepared to stand up for myself / not put up with shit, (less patience perhaps). I'm sure in 5 months time she won't be doing the same (if he has just died?) but also you could suggest she goes and has a lovely time with her friends?

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 11:05:32

Is no one else bored and on mumsnet right now??

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 11:09:56

Anyone else just not feel pg at all? I didn't have many symptoms anyway but feel perfectly normal now which is scaring the crap out of me which I'm obviously trying not to worry about!

On a positive note ILs are buying us our cot and a friend is giving us a brand new baby carrier so I think the only things we need to buy are the dreaded car seat/pram smile

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 11:10:28

Waves at mythree grin

Mythree I could try. I suspect I would get a week of sulking - she CANNOT understand 'this is not a good time' - she's retired (from not working since I was 14) and spends her time pleasing herself. The idea that I cannot pick up the phone when I have a visitor in the office/am on the phone at work etc is alien to her! She gets all huffy and 'well, if I'm such a burden to you'. Gah. I'll try saying 'sorry, it's not a good time, I'll call you when I have a spare sec' and see what happens. Sorry for the whinge.

Also, yes am bored - watching two doddery types browse our booksale, which essentially means I can't do anything that I can't drop instantly (to sell them books) until they clear off.

nature I still feel a bit meh first thing, and have the odd twinge or two, but no real bump (hardly at all), no flutters, so I totally hear you. It's hard, eh? How far along are you again? Yay for cot and baby carrier!

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 11:38:44

humpty That sounds really tough to deal with! Does she live near you?

I've got my midwife appointment tomorrow, when I'll be exactly 16 weeks! I'm really hoping she listens to the heartbeat.

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 11:38:54

Humpty, is sounds like she likes playing 'child' to your 'adult' ("If I'm a burden to you" etc). If she says anything like that, behave like an adult talking to a child, and say calmly, "you are not a burden, this is just not a good time right now". I had a really good CBT session years ago which explained how to deal with people who behave like children and it has really helped. Good luck.
Nature, HIIIIII!!!!! Yes, still bored. Also not feeling pregnant.

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 11:54:47

Humpty I'm 15+6. Two weeks till my next mw appointment and who knows if she will listen for a hb or not. Hope you manage to sort things out with your mum. I have no advice I'm afraid, my mum is the complete opposite, never phones, occasionally emails! I have to phone her if I want to talk to her!

That makes me feel a little better if others are feeling ok as well.

Pop2014 Tue 30-Jul-13 11:54:52

Mythree i'm bored today, constantly lurking on mumsnet. Such a dreary day, should be under duvet infront of the tv��.
MrsGSR i have my 16week midwife appointment tomorrow at 2, where I will be exactly 16 weeks ( due date buddies grin) can't wait, hope to hear heartbeat! And then only 3 weeks until 20 week scan (at 19.2) on the 23 August, yay it all seems fast approaching now.

MrsG no, fortunately not too near!
Fx for heartbeat listening tomorrow.

Mythree You're right, I know - I have had therapy, and I do know this, I just let her push me into my child... Right. I am a GROWN UP and I will deal with this. Thanks love! grin

MrsVDB Tue 30-Jul-13 12:05:25

I don't feel to pregnant but a really slim lady at work who sits behind me is 19 weeks with a nice round bump. I'm 15w and look at least 7 months! I had a belly before so it all just seems to have pushed out up and down. I quite like it but I feel silly as its much bigger than hers!

humpty I'd definitely recommend a Doppler. I used it again last night so dh could hear. I'm not going to use it more than 1 a week though just in case.

Booked private gender scan for 2 weeks today. I'm 99% sure it's a girl but want confirmation as its getting harder to pass off girls clothes I'm buying as unisex to dh!!

Looking to go to Bali in September but my typhoid vaccine has run out. Waiting for call back from doctor to see if its safe to get it. Hope so!!

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 12:07:59

MrsV just out of interest what makes you think you're having a girl? I've told dh I think we are having a boy but I have nothing to base this on!

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 12:12:40

pop I'm so jealous of your earlier 20 week scan, mines right at the end of when I can have it, 3rd of September, I think!

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 12:16:02

MrsG how far along will you be when you have it? I hadn't realised there was a cut off. Mine is also the 3rd September but I will be 20+6. My mw wasn't keen to book it in before the 20th week.

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 12:40:49

also lurking on mumsnet..so tired today. I have given in to DS and hes playing games on my phone ad DD is currently smearing cheese spread sandwiches all over the kitchen table. pyjama slob day today grin

the midwife appointments seem really spaced out this time, I know theyre the same as the last times but for some reason I swear I had them more offen last time. strange

MrsVDB Tue 30-Jul-13 12:41:20

nature I just had that feeling as soon as I got bfp. Also the nub theory (google it- it's about the angle of the willy they all have at the 12 week scan). Dh thinks boy so well see smile

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 13:06:09

my scan photo is from 10 weeks and I don't think I can see a nub sad

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 13:19:42

I've looked at a copy of my scan pic and think I can see a nub. I'll have to check the original when I get home. Although I'm a little doubtful on the scientific rigour behind this theory!

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 13:25:51

just had a row with dh over his lack of interest in prams. I still don't know whether to get a single pram or a double or use a sling to start with and keep middle child in the buggy on school runs etc and just wait and see if I need a double buggy a few weeks after baby is born. im starting to lean towads waiting and seeing how much I really need a double buggy.
she will be 26 months when baby is born.
dh keeps saying 'you decide, your the one that will be with them 95% of the time on your own' yes thanks for your input and reminder that you are working out of the country 3 weeks out of every friggin month!! argh stressss .

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 13:37:42

Sarahleanne - brilliant, if it's up to you then have fun with his credit card get a double, over/under buggy. I tried soooo hard to cope with one buggy and sling with my two (16 month gap, so younger, but still a 26 month can't walk as far and likes sitting) I gave up when the baby was 6 months old and bought a double, I just wish I'd done it sooner. My youngest will be 3.5 when this one arrives, so he's well out of pushchairs thankfully.

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 13:39:03

PS if it makes you feel better, I said to DH on email: if you bloody well helped more with tidying the house etc then you might get more BJs. He shot straight back: if you gave me more BJs then I might help you tidy the house. MEN!

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 13:46:27

Ughhhh! What a feckin day! Work has made me cry twice so far with utter frustration and anger! Roll on frickin mat leave when I won't give a toss any more!!! angry

Humpty that's really tricky! I really hope as time goes on your Mum clings to you less.....

Nature so pleased your pup is settling well and great to hear about settling overnight! That's fab!

I too don't feel preggers at 18+4 and am trying to keep calm while shitting myself ! MrsV I hope you stay strong and only use your doppler once a week! I said that and then every time I have a moment of paranoia I get it out! Have had to literally tell myself "NO" outloud this morning to stop myself having a quick reassuring listen again! My "bump" also seems to have reduced again and I really don't think any of it is actually what I would class as baby, despite me knowing the uterus is nearly level with my belly button at this stage! The work stress is making me stress more about this little one! Desperately trying to take deep calming breaths as the stress can't be good for baby! Really wish 20 week scan was this Friday instead of next Friday! Am sure once I start feeling proper movements I will start to chill out a bit although then of course I will be worrying about the amount of movements I am feeling blush

Wow! Really being a moany stressy biatch today! Sorry ladies!

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 13:56:15

Sultana, if you are crying at work, something (other than the hormones) is wrong!! You need to take a break, have a kitkat, tell your boss to back off, have some time off, write a blog secretly that outlines all your idiotic colleagues and get it published into a best seller. Mat leave is too far away to be in sight just yet - I used to find doing pelvic floor exercises whilst in REALLY dull / upsetting situations really took my mind off things (and allowed me to feel smug at the same time). brew you poor thing.

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 13:58:44
sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 14:07:11

Mythree you actually made me laugh out loud then with the bj comments . Question- ok I'm convinced now to get a double, should I still get a sling for short school runs or is there no point? Baring in mind I have 11 steep steps to my front door and can't imagine lugging the double up and down them every morning. Thanks for the advice. Dh finally piped up and reminded me our eldest was in a pram until gone 3 on day trips.
Oh another stupid question- with the doubles, does the biggest or the smallest go in the underneath chair?

Mythree MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSS! Where is the bleach. That child... Oh my. That is one... unique looking baby. I am SO NOT skipping the GTT. Please please please no one let me forget it. I cannot have a baby like that.

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 14:15:17

nature I don't know if there is an official deadline for the scan, or if it's just policy in this particular hospital. When I had my dating scan they have me a note to take to reception saying my scan needed to be between sometime in August and the 5th of Sept, so they booked it for the 3rd of Sept. It seems like such a long way away!

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 14:19:05

Mythree WHAT!!?? I have to have the GTT due to my dad being diabetic, I've been told the test is really annoying, but no way am I skipping it now!

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 14:20:11

Thanks mythree! Pelvic floors! Good idea! grin

Omg!!! How the hell did she deliver him naturally!,shock shock shock

Mythreeknights Tue 30-Jul-13 14:30:18

Sarahleanne - get a sling too - you will need a sling/baby bjorn for about 18 months, although I hear the Ergo baby is a good (US) model that can be used until they are much older (e.g. 3 yrs old). With 3 kiddies, you'll need all the kit you can get your hands on. With 11 steps I'd imagine you'd either put baby in car seat inside and carry out to put in car, carry baby without car seat and put in car, or just sling to school. Biggest baby/child goes underneath in a Phil and Teds, not sure about other buggys.

MrsVDB Tue 30-Jul-13 14:33:18

Apparently it's 99% accurate

Penny31 Tue 30-Jul-13 14:37:23

sultana chin up and try not to get frustrated. Does your manager know how you feel? Can you take a couple of days off?

Penny31 Tue 30-Jul-13 14:43:25

Uh oh now I'm worried about an abnormally huge baby!

TarkaTheOtter Tue 30-Jul-13 14:59:53

Please do get the gtt - it's really not that bad. Uncontrolled gd doesn't just cause large babies there are lots of potentially serious consequences including an increased risk of still birth.
Gets off soapbox

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 15:00:56

Thanks mythree that's really helped alot smile

Gah! Had delicious chilli con carne jacket potato for lunch and now have the MOST appalling heartburn. I'm going to have to force down a Gaviscon tablet aren't I?
<boaks at thought of minty chalkiness>

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 15:22:06

Oh no humpty! What u need is one of sultanas extra special,mint choc chip milkshakes!!! grin

penny yep - another thing to worry about!,grin Was meant to be having a catch up with my boss today, but as usual other things came up for him so postponed until tomorrow.... No chance of time off just yet - have a couple of days booked in two weeks and had to just bite the bullet and take them! Basically been doing two peoples jobs for 1.5 years and its all coming to a bit of a head now that I am trying to get everything in order for when I go off. Everything feels out of control and I hate being disorganised! It will all get sorted one way or another am sure....will just make me appreciate my time off with bubs all the more! grin

Gobbolinothewitchscat Tue 30-Jul-13 15:31:00

<slinks back onto thread>

No one will remember me <wails dramatically> bit I was on the thread way, way back in the early days. Have one DS, 8 months yes, DC2 was a BIG surprise and due on 10 Jan

Hope everyone is well? I'm starting to feel a lot better. Although got a hiatus hernia so terrible acid reflux meant an emergency dash to A&E at 4:00am at the weekend - the sights you see grin. Omeprazole is now my friend! If anyone ends up with bad reflux, do not be fobbed off with ranitidine - tis shit. Omeprazole is the way to go!

I'm off to try and catch up on this thread.

Naturegirl82 Tue 30-Jul-13 15:45:43

I am in the most boring meeting right now. Only good thing will be it will be nearly home time when it finishes smile

sultana oooh YES PLEASE. I loves mint choc chip, me!
Also, I hear you on the doing two people's jobs - when i started, I looked after: news (online stories, print newsletter, e-newsletter), archive, library, events (planning and management).
I now do: news, archive, library, events, membership and bookselling.
My payrise for taking all of this on? Less than cost-of-living increase in the past 12 months.
They are gonna have fun replacing me!

gobbo I remember you! Welcome back, hiatus hernia and all. Sounds grim.

Oooh, talking of such, where is littlepeapod? She MUST be back from hols now?

nature I am pretending to work everytime boss walks past, but really MNing incessantly. I have to teach tonight from 6.30 - 8.30, so may disappear out for a (decaff) coffee before then I think or I will lose my MIND. Just calculated, I have 98 more working days to go (excluding bank hols, and rest of my leave for this year). 98. I can do it.

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 16:02:10

gobbo I remember you as well smile

I saw pod on another thread this week, so she is around. I hope she's ok.

Gobbolinothewitchscat Tue 30-Jul-13 16:15:59

Oh you are all kind [grin

I had a GTT test due to my uncle being diabetic. Was fine - if slightly puke inducing. Top tip - do not sit next to
WRVS cafe bit whilst waiting for test. The smell of toast is not good when you've been fasting for 12 hours!

Not having it this time due to NHS cutbacks but not too worried.

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 16:16:27

humpty yep sounds familiar! I cant work it out in days but sjould have 3.5 months left which seems manageable, although working until 1am sunday morning isnt gonna be fun!,sad Ah well, shit happens! Roll on 20 week scan for some excitement (hopefully!)

gobbo how could we forget u! Nice to have u back and great to hear u r feeling better despite the horrible reflux!!! grin

Oooh, gobbo I have the GTT test end of Sept. Luckily our waiting area is not by any kind of cafe... However, I may still vom - I HAVE to eat first thing or I feel like Satan all day. I might book that day off work...

Also - not having 'due to cutbacks'? WTAF? That's pretty appalling, I thought everyone at risk had it? You can have mine <generous face>

TarkaTheOtter Tue 30-Jul-13 16:46:42

NICE guidelines don't recommend the GTT for family history only unless it is a first degree relative so an uncle wouldn't count.

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 16:50:33

I'm not having the GTT until 28 weeks, which seems really late! Going down to visit my dad this weekend so I might get him to check my blood sugar levels just so I have an idea of weather or not I should worry! My stomach seems huge so I'm already panicking about having a baby like the one in the article!

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 17:23:56

Good luck humpty! I would book the day off too! Not worth risking a crappy day at work made worse by feeling like satan!

Finally the work day is over and can now get ready to go swimming with DH! Got to "de-feather" everywhere and cut my toe nails before we go! Is anyone else finding their finger and toe nails are growing at a ridiculous rate? I am having to deal with them both weekly which is unheard of - normally they last at least 3 weeks before they need any maintenance!

tarka oh, I see - gobbo is that your only risk factor? I have a 'slightly raised BMI' grin according to my very tactful mw, which is why I'm having one.

MrsG it seems late to me too - I suppose if it only affects things then, fair enough. God knows, if they tell me to stop eating cake, I'd rather they do it later than sooner...

sultana SO FAST. My fingernails are like a witches. I cut them off on Monday so there was no white showing, they are now about 1mm of white on each nail. In 36 HOURS.

Bluecarrot Tue 30-Jul-13 17:50:31

Yup- my fingernails are growing stupidly fast ( like cutting twice a week!) plus my body hair is growing v fast too sad I had to give up and bleach facial hair yesterday. I know its potentially not good for baby, but I figure all the stuff that I'm absorbing or breathing in ( car fumes etc) then one go of bleach every few weeks will be fine. I don't have the patience for plucking literally over 100 dark hairs from face and neck sad

Watched a fascinating TED talk yesterday about what babies learn while stil in the womb. See linky...


Bluecarrot Tue 30-Jul-13 17:50:48
MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 17:51:30

sultana I hadn't thought about it before, but my fingernails are surprisingly long considering I break them by being clumsy quite regularly!
humpty I've been craving mainly savory things, but I made some really nice biscuits this weekend, don't want to have to give them up!

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 18:01:09

Hmmm, my bmi is raised and they dont seem fussed on testing me, but then I have no family history of diabetes....

Glad its not just me! My body hair is,too! Actually having problems seeing my bikini line properly without a mirror due to bloat and massive boobs! Its a revelation and made me realise how nice it is normally to be able to see it! Wont ever take it for granted again! grin

Frogcatcher Tue 30-Jul-13 18:08:19

Ridiculous growth of everything here too. I found an eyebrow hair that was (I kid you not) at least an inch long! My fingernails have always been strong so could pass for falsies right now if I painted them!

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 18:34:47

gobo I remember you too. my daughter had bad reflux as a newborn, literally couldn't keep milk down for more than 2 minutes and was eventually admitted into hospital for losing so much weight!! ranitidine is SHIT, omeprazole was the only thing that helped her I don't know why they didn't give it to us straight away!!

im hairy too and ive lost my tweezers dammit!! stupid eyebrows!!

on another totally serperate note, were getting the keys to our new house tomorrow and I cannot bloody wait. I am going to be working the rest of the week and trying to move house which will be great fun not

hope everyone is having a lovely evening grin

Frizz1986 Tue 30-Jul-13 19:15:22

Wow its hard catching up sometimes.

pop we are appointment date buddies. I have my 16 week app tomorrow at 1:30pm (really hope they do a heartbeat as I am not convinced that all is ok in there - think the coming and going half hard half soft bump doesnt help) and I have my 20 week scan on 23rd august (although i will be exactly 20 weeks that day)

Had a crazy thought. Me and dh got engaged on 24th august last year and the day before the anniversary of our engagement we are exactly halfway through our first pg. What a year!! (Think he knew we would be married and have kids fast though, thats why it took over 6 years to propose)

Names wise i cant remember who liked evelyn but i love that name, doesnt work with my surname though, well evie/eve doesnt.

Think someone else mentioned eleanor which is one of our girls names along with aurelia (its from pans labyrinth movie). However we cant pick a boys name at all (and we are convinced it will be a boy) Not telling anyone in rl what names we have. Think we will have joyce as a middle name for a girl (after my nan) or maybe jocelyn (after dhs granny). I feel rather naughty telling you lot but dh need never know wink

Exciting about the house sarahl hope they leave it clean for you and you enjoy all the unpacking (i love unpacking and always have everything unpacked and in its place within a few days)

Gobbolinothewitchscat Tue 30-Jul-13 19:17:35

I don't think I should have had it in the first place. The GTT lady looked a bit surprised when I said who the relative was. I had a very over zealous midwife at my first booking in app. I had her again for the second and she booked me back in. However, I'm now going with one2one midwives and they cancelled it - said due to cutbacks they were only testing if it was parental.

However, apparently some regions are trialling everyone having it <boke>

humpty - you are too kind grin

TobyLerone Tue 30-Jul-13 19:25:45

Ha, Frizz smile Fast is good! We got engaged on 11th Aug last year, married in January and the baby is due a week before our first wedding anniversary.
Aurelia is also on our list.

Good to see you back, Gobbo smile

Lovely news about the house, sarahl! Congratulations.

I feel like wet string tonight. Like my arms are too heavy to even lift. This is the 3rd time this pregnancy that this has happened. The first time I thought I was having a stroke!

lovelilies Tue 30-Jul-13 19:34:49

frizz please come and live near me! Will need your unpacking skills in a few weeks grin
Just packed up 8 years worth of belongings crap (Renting our my house from Thursday) to love in with DP, we're renting somewhere together. So most of the stuff is in storage til references etc come through and we're offered a tenancy (fx) and in the meantime we're holed up at my mum's! Her and DP do not get on plus he's allergic to her cat sad

lovelilies Tue 30-Jul-13 19:39:04

Hows this for fast?
DP fancied me from afar for a few months but I had my heart set on migrating to Oz with DD... finally succumbed to a date... 1st kiss on Christmas eve grin ... fell madly in love...decided to have a family began TTC in April, BFP in May!
Everyone thinks we're nuts grin grin but I'm 32, he's 41, hardly a pair of teenagers!

TarkaTheOtter Tue 30-Jul-13 19:46:36

mrsgsr 28 weeks is normal for GTT they only tend to test earlier if you have glucose in your urine or have had gd in a previous pregnancy. In normal circumstances it doesn't materialise til towards the end of the second trimester. If they do happen to discover it earlier they often say it is pre-existing type 2 diabetes not gd.

Although it is very upsetting not eating cake, I'd rather have gd than other complications because it is 100% treatable. If diet doesn't work, the prescribe metformin, if that doesn't work insulin. It is only causes problems if it is untreated, if treated (good glycemic control) your risk of complications is the baseline risk.

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 20:09:44

just looked at the stats thread for January...there are 88 ladies on there!! where is everyone?!? don't be shy ladies haha

BuntCadger Tue 30-Jul-13 20:28:11

Re GD I had it with ds1, had some abnormal bloods with ds2 but not bad enough to be GD, same with dd. never had GTT with dd and not having one this time either as I monitor bloods at home. Bloods been fine so far but bmi was normal which had impact. I'm under consultant led care but he isn't seeing me now till 28 weeks and said I only need test once a week.. I've been crap and forgetting. Ill test tomoz.

Was me with name Eleanor. Paranoid it'll be in top 10 or something, I keep picking names that are popular. Quite likes Merida too but perhaps to Disney ;)

Penny31 Tue 30-Jul-13 20:36:46

So the car seat arrived and we couldn't resist trying it out, even though its still super early. Well, it ended up in a domestic on the drive, followed by uncontrollable laughter! We just couldn't figure the damn thing out. It's not supposed to be this complicated?! We are clearly useless.

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 21:13:49

frog I kid u not, discovered an inch long hair on my cheek and another on my upper arm! Must remember to cut them off!!!

sarahl how exciting! Really hope the move goes well!

Good luck for your appointments tomorrow ladies! Fingers crossed for happy heartbeats! grin

Well made it swimming and came back with heartburn from hell! Cue Sultanas magic mint choc chip ice cream milkshake and again it has worked a treat within seconds! Need to be careful I dont pack on the pounds but its so worth it for now to not have the horrible reflux and burn!!! grin

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 21:16:16

penny that cracked me up! I can just imagine! Kiddicare do free fitting so think we will go there to buy our car seat and get someone who knows what they are doing to fit it, especially as my car doesnt have isofix points.....

We are hopefully going to get the pram tomorrow as its on sale! grin

Penny31 Tue 30-Jul-13 21:19:40

Ooooo exciting! We sold have gone and got it fitted, I guess we probably can still go somewhere to get it checked. It was more getting the seat in and out that's the problem!

MrsAVB Tue 30-Jul-13 21:20:54

Oh penny, am glad you could see the funny side! And at least you have some time to practice.
DH is doing my head in. Since out BFP I've been sticking to a budget for food, toiletries and other household stuff. This means every week, things I'd like get knocked off the list so that essentials stay within the budget, making sure i use up what goes off first, shopping around to get best deals, all of which is fine and normal for me. But he keeps on waltzing in with extra bags of stuff from the supermarket... "I just fancied x". His argument is that we don't need to budget, but the budget is not a tight one, and he often ends up throwing stuff out. I know I'm being way over sensitive, and probably making him feel like im the shopping nazi and he can't buy himself a mars bar but ITS DOING MY HEAD IN!!! We both work full time so it's to like I have extra time on my hands to meal plan, budget and shop around either.
Sorry for the rant ladies.
Was wondering as well... When is everyone planning on taking their mat leave, and for how long?

sarahleanne Tue 30-Jul-13 21:29:20

ms avb I was wondering the same thing about mat leave...im going to try and work upto 36 weeks and take Annual leave before my mat leave.I only have about 3 weeks of annual leave though as I am part time.

MrsVDB Tue 30-Jul-13 21:32:09

I'm going to leave work at Christmas so around 20th. Due 22nd jan.

Sultanajo Tue 30-Jul-13 21:35:50

mrsavb that sounds really frustrating! Can u explain how you feel and why you feel what you do - is there a compromise somewhere?

I am hoping to go off at 34 weeks - start my mat leave two weeks before am due and tag four weeks holiday on before the mat leave. Also really hoping to take a year off.....grin

I'm leaving at christmas - we get the christmas break off as company holiday as site closes, so it won't eat into AL or mat leave. That should take me up to the 4th Jan ish, then a couple of weeks of leave til I'm due. I'm hoping to take 10 months, but it depends on childcare etc. getting a place in september is a lot easier than getting one in November, so that might make a difference.

Penny your car seat drama brough back memories - we did the exact same thing with DS's seat. Thank god we tried before we had to take him home from hospital ;)

Had 16 week appointment today - she did have a listen to the heartbeat grin. We took DS into the appointment, which the midwife was lovely about, and he was so chuffed to hear it. Really lump-in-throat family moment.

Frizz1986 Tue 30-Jul-13 21:56:40

Wow love that is speedy, but I guess if you ditched a life in the great land of oz (coincindentally where I got engaged!) then he must be something alright smile

I am hoping to leave on 20th dec (i will be 37 weeks so might be a bit late), take the 6 days holiday I have left over xmas and then mat leave can start in jan. i really want a year off too, but dont think that will happen as dh is still out of work. Will def take normal mat leave though (my boss has been pondering to one of my collegues that she thinks ill be back after 3 months with dh not working. If she thinks I am going to miss the opportunity to be home with my child for as long as possible so I can come back to a rubbish job that I dont like she needs to think again!)

Obv i wont say that to her face as i will need my job kept available in case i return. You would think it would a sure thing with dh out of work but we will be getting rid of my car to save money so to go back to work would mean buying a new car so i can take bubs to childcare, plus paying for childcare, so might turn out that i dont earn much money at all so isnt worth going back to my job as hopefully dh will be back teaching by then. Might be better getting a part time job elsewhere or something.

qumquat Tue 30-Jul-13 22:19:41

I'm planning on taking 6 months then DH taking two. We're so chuffed that you can now share leave! We wanted to do 6 months each but we won't be able to afford it. When I tell people we're sharing leave they generally look at me like I've just landed from the moon, which is pretty depressing. Is anyone else planning on sharing leave? My dad worked from home for most of my childhood and I had such a close relationship with him, I am determined my kids will have the same. When my dad died so many of my friends commented, when they saw how close we were, that they barely knew their dads.

Planning on working up until the end of term (teacher), but with bub due on the 1st it might not be possible!

MrsGSR Tue 30-Jul-13 23:31:43

Toby I got married on the 11th of August! We were going to wait until our anniversary to announce it but weren't patient enough!

Tarka I did some research (after panicking for a while) and read about it developing around 28 weeks, so I'll try to calm down! Although I probably will still get my dad to check my sugar levels...

FidgetPie Tue 30-Jul-13 23:56:32

qumquat we are doing the same and sharing the leave- I'll take the first 6 months then DH between 4-6 months after that. It means he will be at home in Sept when DD1 starts school, which will be lovely for her too. We figured now you can we should, he'll never get the chance to do it again as we aren't planning on more DC after this one.

It will be tough financially but as I earn more than DP, if either of us are going to take more than 6 months off then it is better if we get my salary.

AnotherStitchInTime Wed 31-Jul-13 00:32:51

I think sharing the leave is a great idea. DH was a SAHD with dd1 from 7 months old until my mat leave when I had dd2. They have a fantastic relationship, it made it so much easier for dd1 when dd2 was born. She called him 'mummy-daddy' when she was little.

MrsVDB Wed 31-Jul-13 06:52:29

I hadn't heard about sharing leave I thought they just got 2 weeks. How does it work?

sarahleanne Wed 31-Jul-13 06:52:31

I got married on the 10th August!! Few of us have anniversary coming up soon then smile

BookTart Wed 31-Jul-13 07:45:32

All this talk of maternity leave made me laugh - I had my annual appraisal yesterday and my manager asked if I was planning to take any maternity leave! Err, no, I was planning to just pop the baby out during a coffee break in a meeting and then get back to my desk!

At the moment it looks as though I'll be staying at home, possibly for a few years. If I don't like it I always have the option of going back to work if I want to, which is great. I'm planning to finish around the 14th December to get ready for Christmas, my due date is the 6th.

Lovely to hear about all these fast weddings smile We booked ours yesterday and will be getting married on Halloween! We've only been together for 8 years..!

Working for home today as midwife is visiting for 16 week appointment. Very pleased as have had awful shooting pains on and off since Monday. Hopefully just round ligament though.

TobyLerone Wed 31-Jul-13 07:56:26

I know someone else who got married on 11th August smile It's quite the popular time!

Congratulations, Book grin It's easy, planning a quick wedding. Where are you doing it (if you don't mind telling!)?
What a knob your boss is! Have a lovely midwife visit.

MrsAVB Wed 31-Jul-13 08:41:21

Might be wrong, but I thought shared leave didn't come in til 2015? I mean on the same basis as mat leave, rather than if you're taking additional pat leave or taking it unpaid and/or have super flexible employers?
Like enjoying, my office closes for Christmas, so that's when I'm planning on leaving. I don't know if this is a bit silly/ optimistic to finish on the 23rd when I'm due in the 1st, but a lot of my friends have worked up til their due date, my job is not very physical, and if I'm not managing or not well, I'm sure I can negotiate to leave earlier or start mat leave early by going off sick. We haven't decided how long I'll take yet - employers are supposed to presume you'll take a year, then you can give notice to return early if you want to.

Frizz1986 Wed 31-Jul-13 08:42:22

book congrats. I would agree that it is easier planning a faster wedding. You just get on with it and keep doing things. Someone at my work has been engaged for a year and has another year until the wedding. She is already fed up and bored of the whole thing as there is so much she is having to plan but she has to drag it all out and its too soon to finalise lots of things.

16 week midwife app today smile Very excited to hear the heartbeat. I am going to ask if we get to hear it, just in case they don't do it in my area. Am going to play the 'dh didn't get to come to my 12 week scan so this will be his first opportunity to see there is something there' I won't tell them about the sneaky 9 week scan we had, but technically that was still so early that it was just a blob so doesn't count!
Have warned him of all the questions I will be asking so that he doesn't get all embarrassed when I start talking discharge etc lol.

Frizz1986 Wed 31-Jul-13 08:48:39

mrsa my sister said that they are supposed to assume you take a year unless you tell them otherwise, but I wasn't sure as my friend from work finished in december and work have told her that she has to decide by end of August if she wants to come back or take a year.
I think that they are proper pressuring her to decide. If they assume you are taking a year then it is probably less pressure as you just have to give a certain amount of notice to come back don't you so you can kind of leave it until you are ready to choose.

I plan to tell my work that I will be taking a year unless they hear from me otherwise.

FidgetPie Wed 31-Jul-13 08:59:02

MrsVDB - I'm on my phone but hopefully the following explains it:

Basically after a certain point (6 months I think) mums can transfer the rest of their year to dads and the dad gets the same rights (stat mat pay, job held open etc). Mum has to go back to work (for at least a day, before using any annual leave etc).

They are bringing something even more flexible in at a later date (can't remember the difference - maybe it can start sooner than 6 months or not have to be taken in one big chunk).

We would have done it with DD1 but it hadn't come into effect yet and we were worried DH's work wouldn't keep a job open for him so it seemed a bit risky, so I took 8 months off then DD started nursery (which luckily she loved).

MrsRApilot Wed 31-Jul-13 09:03:48

Shared parental leave doesn't come into play until April 2015 as far as I am aware... :-(

Hubby and I got married in April so this was a honeymoon baby - after over 3 years of trying it was such a nice surprise.

Have my 17 week midwife appointment today so we'll see how that goes as I was consultant care the last time so don't know what to expect.

Going out afterwards to get DD's school uniform. Where did the time go!?! I keep having to remind myself in a few months she won't be my baby anymore :-(

BookTart Wed 31-Jul-13 09:31:24

But then you'll have another baby AND a big girl mrsRA smile

toby, it will just be us and two witnesses at Ashford Register office. It is in the library building, which is a bit tragic as I am a librarian myself (although not there)! Partner is only doing it for legal reasons (how romantic!), but I've wanted to get married for ages, so I'm still pleased. I had a BIG wedding last time, so am happy with it being just us. What the hell am I going to wear to a Halloween wedding when I'm 30 weeks though?! Partner is saying he might do fancy dress angry

TobyLerone Wed 31-Jul-13 10:52:12

Ah, it'll be really easy then, book! The registry office in Ashford is a bit uninspiring but it does the job wink
We had to go there to do the pre-wedding formalities.

BuntCadger Wed 31-Jul-13 11:06:05

Book tart I got married 2 September 2 years ago and had dd on 22 October. Was also registry office, small affair with meal at lovely Italian after. Then had a hogroast BBQ at country park following day for friends and family, very informal and fun for all (they played rounders!). Anyway I wore a purple maternity maxi dress from next, lovely rich purple colour almost Grecian in style. I had a little tiara and a pretty crochet jacket/cardigan to cover my shoulders. So easy to dress up for ceremony and then next day easy to dress down too. Congratulations xx

BuntCadger Wed 31-Jul-13 11:09:39

Oh and I have anomaly scan on our 2nd anniversary. Hoping to get sister to look after kids so me and dh can sneak off for lunch after scan. May ask if we decide to find gender out, if they can pop it in envelope and we can open it at lunch...

BookTart Wed 31-Jul-13 11:26:33

I like the sound of your outfit bunt, I may shamelessly copy you smile Lovely idea about the gender reveal as well!

Mythreeknights Wed 31-Jul-13 11:42:01

I've just seen this and thought how amusing it is that whilst we are here analysing every single aspect of our pgs, this girl had no idea until the baby popped out www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2378995/Doctors-said-IBS-stress--I-actually-PREGNANT-Mother-Sophiia-Marie-Faia-Southampton-didnt-realise-having-baby-arrived.html
(sorry - am such a daily mail freak!)

BuntCadger Wed 31-Jul-13 11:50:30

I did look at maternity wedding dresses etc book but really seemed crazy spending £££££ on a dress. I'd be flattered if you did similar. smile

Ooh, am I the only winter wedded lady? We got hitched Jan 7th last year, so if bean arrives 4 days late, he will be born on our wedding anniversary!

book congrats, how lush! Have you started looking at wedding dresses?

Meant to say, I am starting Mat Leave on 8th Dec (working the Sat 7th), so at 36 weeks ish.

Does anyone here have loads of knowledge of mat leave/annual leave arrangements? I have a couple of technical questions...

Just popping out to meet some friends for lunch, hurrah!

MrsAVB Wed 31-Jul-13 12:07:34

humpty the Valuing Maternity website is quite useful for the technical stuff. With annual leave, I think aside from being entitled to exactly the same as you would if you were in work, which is statutory, soe of the other stuff (ie when you have to take it) is at employers discretion in the same way as it is for non preggos.
We had a winter wedding too!

MrsGSR Wed 31-Jul-13 12:13:46

Waiting at the doctors to see my midwife, keeping my fx that I get to hear the heartbeat!

enormouse Wed 31-Jul-13 12:19:12

Hi everyone, hope you're all well. loving the wedding talk and the mint choc chip milkshake sounds fantastic. I'm really craving McDonald's chocolate milkshakes and the deep fried Apple pies.

Could you hire a dress bunt? I'm pretty sure there are lots of maternity wedding hire companies.

Have had some great news re my car/driving woes. DPs parents have offered me the car that used to belong to their daughter. Almost FIL has done a grands worth of work to it and it's been sat in his yard for nearly 2 years. Unfortunately, the problem is DPs lovely sis, who is likely not to sell it to me, despite never using it. It's an almost 10 year old fiesta that I'd be willing to pay around £300-£400 for. (Is that about right? I'm not very clued up on car values). If not a-FIL said he'd help me find something.

Still going to put in for my driving theory test as it ran out last March. And get ready for my practical test. Non cuntpuffin instructor thinks I should be ready by September or earlier.

Have downloaded the highway code and the latest theory book to my kindle, so best get on! smile

enormouse Wed 31-Jul-13 12:19:59

Oh good luck MrsG . Hope your appointment goes well x.

BuntCadger Wed 31-Jul-13 12:22:18

Mouse - not me getting married its book smile I Got married whe heavily preg with dd

Gobbolinothewitchscat Wed 31-Jul-13 12:24:47

humpty - I'm an emoyment lawyer and there's an argument that you should also get contractual leave too - the law is not absolutely clear. Most large law firms accept this which is indicative of the fact that they accept that to not allow that contractual leave to accrue and be taken (irrespective of whether the policy is " use it or lose it" in the year it accrues), would be unlawful and open to challenge. Therefore, I would politely inform (not ask) your employer that you expect to be able to take all annual leave accrued pre maternity leave before you go. - If that's not possible, it shoukd be carried forward. Whilst on mat leave, you expect your contractual (not just statutory) annual leave entitlements to continue to accrue and you will take that at the end of your mat leave. If that's not possible, (for a good reason), it needs to be carried over for you. If it can't be, there are some arguments that you should receive a payment in lieu but the situation is not black and white. Therefore there is no absolute argument that your emoter should make a payment. However, if not, you need to be able to take it

If you need more info, I'm happy to discuss by

I'm off on mat leave ATM and not going back to work. My next mat leave would have started 3 weeks after going back!

My job is totally unfamily friendly so I'll take a few years off and then decide what to do. I'm lucky in that Ive got various contacts who have potentially offered me a role when I want to return so that's helpful. But not sure how things willow to out as both going back to 20 hour days even when 8months pregnant on call to clients at anytime of day or night

I loved my job before I went on mat leave but priorities have totally changed

Gobbolinothewitchscat Wed 31-Jul-13 12:28:14

Apols for all the typos. Not going to change them but just wanted to clarify - when I said "large firms", I meant "large law firms" who are usually the nastiest bastards about ensuring emotes get the bare minimum such as mine and paying whacking chunks of enhanced mat pay only when you return. So if they accept it, it's tacitly acknowledged that they accept that they would not be able to successfully defend any claim lodged

Gobbolinothewitchscat Wed 31-Jul-13 12:28:35

"Emotes" - employees

enormouse Wed 31-Jul-13 12:37:19

Oops sorry bunt and book, I must learn to read and remember things properly! smile. (Congrats btw book)

BookTart Wed 31-Jul-13 13:53:04

Midwife has been and all is well. Got to hear the heartbeat, and the baby kept getting the hump with the doppler and hiding smile She said the pains I'm having are fine, and not to worry unless I have bleeding at the same time. So all good. I totally failed to wee on demand though, which is ridiculous as I'm spending all my time on the loo!

3-400 for a 10 year old Fiesta sounds about right to me enormouse. I worked for Ford years ago, and Fiestas were great and hardly ever went wrong. If it is 10 years old it might need a cambelt though, I can't remember the interval for those but they can be a bit of money to have done.

Mythreeknights Wed 31-Jul-13 14:04:48

I'm so distracted today, must focus!

Sultanajo Wed 31-Jul-13 14:37:37

<flounces in, slams door and throws toys out of pram - stupid work!>

Very interesting Gobbo - I think that's what our company does anyway which is something, but good to know it's actually pretty much meant to happen that way....

Yay Book really pleased all went well and you heard the heartbeat! And relax.....

Hope everything has gone OK today for you MrsGSR and anyone else with appointments today - am sure I am missing someone.

Nice to hear of others with quick weddings. Everyone thought we were weird last year for getting engaged and married within 6 months, but if you can afford to have the wedding you want I really don't see the point in hanging around. I too would have become bored of it all if I had to hang around for things - it was bad enough after the initial flurry to then not be able to do the final touches until a few weeks before! We were married in October, so we will have one anniversary before little one comes along which will be nice! I am trying to persuade DH to take me back to where we got married for a night - am hoping he will give in soon! grin

Mythreeknights Wed 31-Jul-13 14:49:17

Hi Sultana how are those pelvic floor exercises going grin I hope work wasn't too bad / isn't too bad today.

Frizz1986 Wed 31-Jul-13 14:51:38

Just come back from midwifes and got to hear hb. How awesome! Dh had a lovely smile as it was galloping away. I took a load of pee and they just dipped it. So have the tub still in my bag!

enormouse I have a ford fiesta, 52 plate (new model) and although I would say ford's are normally top notch and cheaper to fix than others, get someone to check it out. I got mine 5 years ago 2nd hand and it has been a nightmare!
Rusting roof that someone had painted over, computer monitor needed replacing as kept failing and shutting down the engine, airbag fault light is now on and no one knows why, 3 new steering racks and faulty rear door. I will be glad to get rid in Dec.

Sultanajo Wed 31-Jul-13 14:55:56

Yay Frizz that's awesome! So exciting!!! I too had to take my bottle of pee home with me, so was a tad concerned it would leak in my bag! I double wrapped it in sandwich bags!

Mythree it has been another frustrating, sucky day. Just getting my lunch break, although I actually finish early today. Meant to be getting the pram when I finish but DH had to go into work last minute and still isn't back, so if he isn't back in time we won't be getting it today. However, I am knackered so could quite happily chill on the sofa instead, so it's win win! wink

enormouse Wed 31-Jul-13 15:00:38

Thanks frizz and book. It should be ok, it's not brand new but was only used by DPs sister (for occasional trips into town every few months) and a previous lady owner before that. And it's been lovingly repaired (Inc New cambelt) by DPs dad. I trust him as he used to be a rally driver and has spent a fair bit fixing it up. Though, I don't expect to get it unless the sis is feeling especially charitable.

Ick I will never lose the feeling of disgust when they hand the jar back to you.

What happened at work sultana?

TobyLerone Wed 31-Jul-13 15:01:01

Humpty, I was married in winter too. January 12th this year. Baby is due on January 5th next year smile
If things continue as they are, though, I will be having an ELCS at 39 weeks at the latest. So not only will we likely not get a baby-free 1st wedding anniversary, we might not get a baby-free Christmas!

Sorry you're having a crappy day, Sultana.
We got married 5 months after we got engaged, too. We'd started TTC last summer, then got engaged and decided to get the wedding out of the way first. So January it was. Then TTC was back on!

Glad you had a good appointment, book smile

MrsVDB Wed 31-Jul-13 15:11:51

Bali booked for when ill be 21 weeks woop!!!

TobyLerone Wed 31-Jul-13 15:25:27

Ooohhhh, how lovely envy

MrsGSR Wed 31-Jul-13 15:54:28

I heard the heartbeat! It does sound very like a train! Turns out I'm not immune to rubella, dispite having the mmr, so I'll have to have it again after babys born and be careful to avoid anyone who has it until then. There were also done abnormal results with the first urine sample so they've taken another. Possibly an infection but she didn't really explain it very well.

BabyshamBambi456 Wed 31-Jul-13 16:37:44

Had my midwife appointment today and got to hear the heartbeat! The wee one ways moving around loads which could be heard too so that was awesome. smile but wanted to let those who've not been yet know, I had to ask to hear it and MW said guidelines have now changed and they don't routiniely listen for it until 36 weeks unless you ask. She also said if you ask they won't refuse, just something to bear in mind. DH and I got married April 2012, by my due dates we concieved on our first anniversary smile
Has anyone started a birth plan yet? My DSIL and her husband saw us for the first time since we told them and it was the first thing they asked me about. As a first time mummy I'm a bit at a loss and I'm not planning to go to NCT classes (DSIL did them and loved them, but I've talked to loads of friends and looked at NCT and it's just not a good fit for me personally) so I'm not too sure how best to make the decisions. DSIL out things on hers like 'I will ask for pain relief but I don't want it' how can you even know that??