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October 2013 - only 3 months to go!

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roxvox Thu 11-Jul-13 12:27:40

Baby due dates/sexes/name choices here

roxvox Thu 11-Jul-13 12:38:44

clapham I liked your thread name suggestion on the last thread! I couldn't get my brain to work in a panic that I would miss the end of the last thread - hence the boring 'only 3 months to go'!

Haylebop12 Thu 11-Jul-13 12:42:48

Oh my god, another thread, checking in... I have so much to catch up on from previous thread!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 12:43:34

Just failed my driving test for the second time and now sat sobbing like a baby into my lunch sad sad Feels like I'll never pass....

xuntitled he does clean but he's just going over what I've already done, shouting and swearing the whole time or screaming at the kids to do it.
He expects too much from them too. All I want is for them to keep their rooms reasonably tidy and to clear their plates away at meal times. He had them scrubbing the doors last night.
He'll be massively pissed off that I've collected quite a few likes on my facebook status.

Aww Bridget Have a big slice of cake after your lunch to help you feel better.

Thanks for the new thread roxvox

sad bridget - I'm sure you will! Did you fail on anything major or stuff that is easy to put right?

Umlauf, congrats on the house! Just to let you know, we had the Hemnes day bed - which was great in DS's room as a spare bed/somewhere to read bedtime stories - but I wouldn't have liked it as my sofa, it's not the comfiest!

Re names - I had to think of a new one to re-register just after Christmas, and DS and I had been reading the Night Before Christmas everyday for about a month - with him finding it hilarious to wobble my belly at the 'bowl full of jelly' part. Very random - I'm not a very creative person!

I'm now worrying that I am not an emotional wreck confused. Apart from the bump and kicks I would forget that I am pregnant at the moment.

Thanks to everyone for the grocery spend insight as well. Seems we are pretty average, so will forget about budgeting and tell DP he needs to earn more commission grin.

Soupqueen Thu 11-Jul-13 13:11:11

Just heading off for scan, armed with my list of questions, will post properly later. Just wanted to give you a hug, bridget, I failed first 2 times too, but passed on the third. I wasn't pregnant at the time but also cried my eyes out both times I failed. You will pass!

Soupqueen Thu 11-Jul-13 13:12:12

And bowlful, what are we like? I'm also worried that I'm not an emotional wreck, and also that I don't need to go to the toilet during the night. These are good things, why do we worry?!?

Umlauf Thu 11-Jul-13 13:19:18

Hurrah, checking in! bowlful tell me everything about the hemnes day bed!!! Would it be ok as a toddler bed/guest bed? Shame it doesn't make a good sofa, why was that, down to the hard sides/back or the mattress itself? We'd have loads of cushions but don't want an uncomfy sofa.. Flat has tiny bedrooms and big lounge, not actually sure whether it would fit in the baby's room as well as his cot.

I'm so relieved, the flat is fab! Its a block away from the English school (I don't want the baby learning Basque and every other school teaches in Basque instead of Spanish, English school teaches half Spanish half english) has a children's play park just for the children in the flats, south facing, two balconies, really modern, dishwasher! Just rather tiny. Can't wait to move!

Currently covered in paint trying to hide from the sun making little keepsake boxes for Xmas pressies (I know, I'm crazy - DH thinks I've got christmas fever instead of nesting but I get it every year about this time!)

Oh yeah clapham so it does, I was thinking. "Che cazzo fai" and translating it to "what the fuck are you doing?" There was a lot of stronzo, palle, schifo etc in there as well. It says depressing as I've forgotten so much of my Italian and couldn't quite get the gist of his phone call, but the swear words were most definitely understood! I think he is angry because of the fucking people of this city being so fucking cold and not like in Italy and the fucking food is fucking shite! I'd complain but he scares me and were leaving in 2 weeks. The Internet went down the other day and he hammered on our door demanding to know why!! Like I am The Lord of the Internet! Grrr... The annoying thing is you have to be phd level or above to live in our residence so you'd think he would have a shred of intelligence to realise how to live communally (I'm wife of phd rather than phd!)

(Waves at hayle ) how are you doing?!

How was legoland natalie ? I love theme parks soo much and am wondering how long I should wait to take the baby to disneyland! Really quite annoyed I can't go to the Spanish ones this summer.

clapham what a scary thread title! Thanks for creating it.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 13:20:32

Thanks MoN - believe me, if there was any cake whatsoever in the house I would have already gobbled it. Tempted to go into town and cheer myself up with some retail therapy.

I'm sorry to hear of the DP/cleaning situation - it sounds really tough.

Bowlful - I would have passed but I made one serious error - needed to go from 5th gear to 3rd in a hurry as suddenly there was a lorry slowing down ahead and I accidentally put it into 1st instead. The examiner had to knock it into 3rd for me, so that was that. Arrrgggghhhhh....

On the question of names..mine is adapted from one of my favourite children's books by Margaret Mahy. Also makes me smile because my dear Mr Hairy is actually going bald.

Umlauf Thu 11-Jul-13 13:25:22

Ah x post bridget, so sorry about ur test, that is gutting. My brother has just passed on his 4th try. Its so frustrating as so much depends on where you live, when I did mine there wasn't one other car on the road but bro was having to negotiate snaking traffic etc.

I was wondering about your name!

Shirehobbit Thu 11-Jul-13 13:26:48

I'm impressed you are even trying to pass at the moment, Bridget - it will happen for you, but have a consoling brew in the meantime.

xuntitledx - I think we're very close! We're ten mins drive from the airport.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 13:30:33

Thanks soup for the words of comfort; I've dried my eyes and calmed down a bit now. I got so nervous beforehand that I think some of the tears were just a release of all the built up anxiety and tension. Bless him/her, baby hated the test too and kept kicking me.

Fingers crossed for the scan: hope you get a lovely long look at your little one.

Got home to find I had left the front door open - so I suppose I should be counting my blessings that nothing has been taken.

Congratulations on the flat Umlauf. It sounds fab.

HotSoupDumpling Thu 11-Jul-13 13:36:29

Bridget - the more tests you fail, the better and safer driver you will be. Someone said this to me once, and I really think it's true!

Umlauf - glad house is sorted!

MOST importantly - how did I miss finishing a thread AGAIN!

HotSoupDumpling Thu 11-Jul-13 13:36:58

Oh and P.S. my DP hasn't 'stepped up' really yet, apart from back rubs. I'm still doing all the cooking, housework, lugging stuff etc.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 13:50:49

Mr Hairy is far from perfect (gosh, neither am I) but I have to say he has never once criticised or commented on the state of the house (even when DD was tiny and I thought I'd really done well if I even managed to put the dishwasher on). Nor has he ever expected me to iron for him (he prefers to do his own) or to having an evening meal waiting for him.

He works such long hours that I think he's always just happy to be home, and I guess you can't see dust very well when it's dark!

I like that saying HotSoup

PseudoBadger Thu 11-Jul-13 13:52:09

Hello new thread. Sorry about the driving test Bridget sad

Oh how frustrating bridget!!! Something that would only be an issue in a test when you are panicking about mistakes. It will happen!

Umlauf it's great as a guest bed - plenty of room as a single or pulled out into a double. Also has loads of storage underneath - we were storing 3 spare kingsize duvets and all of the spare pillows under there. And I think it's a nice bit of furniture, I like that range and didn't look cheap. We did use it as a toddler bed for DS when we started to move him out of his cot, and probably would have happily kept him in it - but because this one will be sharing we decided to sell it and get a toddler bed as needed the space

But honestly it's a bit hard - it was in DS's room so got used at bedtime for stories, a little bit during the day, but can't imagine snuggling down for an evening in front of the telly on it. We did have cheapo mattresses so maybe would have been better with better quality ones. However knowing the hours I would have to spend on it breastfeeding, I would not have it as the main sofa. But then I am a lazy arse who likes spending a lot of time on the sofa!

Not sure I've helped confused.

Good luck with the scan soup - and I don't know, maybe just to feel included haha.

roofio87 Thu 11-Jul-13 14:16:27

Hello everyone. checking into new thread. sorry people's other halves are being annoying. I have to say dp is being good and very helpful today and cleaned the whole house, mostly because his.mates are all coming over for a bbq on Saturday!! smile

Natalieand Thu 11-Jul-13 14:17:56

Checking in x

roofio87 Thu 11-Jul-13 14:26:07

now dp is in a bad mood because we've had a letter from our lettings company saying that our front garden is too messy and needs to be better maintained!!blush it is.looking pretty scruffy but dp is fuming about it, personally I think they're right!! unfortunately we know nothing about gardening and no tools!! oh well!!

roxvox Thu 11-Jul-13 14:34:08

I am back from my 28 week MW appointment. Fundal height was 29cm which she was happy with. Heard baby's heart beat and she even had a feel and told me he/she was lying across my tummy. She gave me a leaflet on the whooping cough vaccination but said that it is new and they're not sure how effective it is/what the side affects could be. So I will have a read of that and see whether it seems worthwhile having done.
I also asked her about weight gain and she said that they do not have any standards in our area... You gain what you gain basically!

Man I want some cake now that I've seen you all talking about it. Mmm... cake. But none in the house sad

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 14:37:41

checking in!

sorry hotsoup, we will let you finish this thread promise! It should be in the next few days considering our chattiness

bridget sorry about the test. Of course you will pass! It will be third time lucky

and good luck with your scan soup

Smitten1981 Thu 11-Jul-13 14:38:39

Wow, I take a morning off and there's a new thread! Fast workers.

On the name front my cat is called Smitten Kitten and I was born in 1981. No great story there.

I have my 25 week midwife appt in half an hour, had three attempts at leaving the house at lunch as I managed to forget my folder and then the wee sample pot - good start!

checking in wow new thread again lol.

I have been into town and done the no 7 foundation checker thing its came up with three different ones and i ended up with a totally different colour that matched much better grin

Since my iron transfusion i have went from the palest yellowy white to deeply beige!! I also bought some cheap niva cleanser and moisturizer till i can afford the clarins stuff 2 for £4 in boots when its £4 each not bad i thought smile

Oh bridget I have failed 3 times now no real idea why as its different every time driving instructor has said i am a great driver must just be nerves on the day so i have given it a rest till baby has arrived which means my theory will have run out and i will have to sit it again but i dont mind. We will get there try not be too down on yourself remember tests are a money spinner too they are a lot harder than they would have been if i sat it 10 years ago at 18 that what driving instructor says anyhow. brew

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 15:52:01

just confirmed my maternity leave start date as 2nd October and will be taking the remaining 12 days of holidays before it kicks in, so 13th September will be my last day in the office. 35 working days left...

Wickedgirl Thu 11-Jul-13 16:06:39

My DH hasn't really stepped up yet with the housework either. He is going to have to soon because the SPD is just getting too much. DH grew up in quite a messy house though so he doesn't see any of the mess and chaos that I see. With 3 children and 4 cats in the house, there is always something that needs doing.

I so couldn't sleep last night. Bed at 10. Awake at 12 but not for long. Awake again at 2. Still awake at 3 so I woke DH up too for a bit of "adult fun". Sleep at 4 feeling much more relaxed (sorry to lower the tone of the conversation!). grin

Congrats on the new house......that will be a weight off your mind

Thank you for the new thread........we got though the last one really quickly

JethroTull Thu 11-Jul-13 16:43:31

Ooooh a new thread. Thanks Rox

Clapham your mat leave date is the same as mine, 35 days sounds good!

roxvox Thu 11-Jul-13 16:49:08

Sorry to hear about your driving test bridget. I can remember how sad I was the first 2 times I failed, but I do think that I am a better driver than friends who passed first time! Nerves just got to me. I passed third time because I was more relaxed and pretty convinced that I was just going to fail again.

The second time I failed because I turned left when the instructor told me to turn right. Whilst that isn't a reason to mark someone down at all, I spent the rest of the test messing things up because I felt so stupid and angry with myself!

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 16:51:51

bear in mind I've taken off 10 days for my holidays in early August so it would be 45 days if you work full time and are not planning to take any time off in the meantime

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 16:52:48

ps. when are you due jethro? I'm 22nd Oct

tuckingfits Thu 11-Jul-13 17:02:33

Hi all. I've got to go & get ready for work sad but I thought I'd have my first post on new thread first & say it was www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk that I found my reduced price hot milk bras at. Hope that helps people. Oh also,I have been given some second hand but good condition Elle MacPherson nursing bras in 36d that will not fit me ever. If it would help anyone I would be willing to send them for postage costs. Not much I shouldn't think & I think there are 5 or 6...

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 17:07:52

thanks tucking. I couldn't help but notice... some of these models' stomachs and waists... this is a joke. One of them seems to have a six pack. Is she really "nursing"??

JellyCurls Thu 11-Jul-13 17:20:00

tucking had a look at where kilbitnid is and it's fair to say we won't be meeting at that aqua natal class. Also 8.30 is too late for me as I'm up at 5am for work.

Hello new thread, thanks Roxvox

Interesting reading MN names stuff, Bowlfullofjelly made me laugh, the innocence of kids!

And Clapham I looked at the link just to see the six pack. Obviously that will be us by November grin

Soupqueen Thu 11-Jul-13 17:24:48

Scan all good, measurements and blood pressure bang on. I've to go back in 4 weeks for another scan but my fears of having to deliver at 26 weeks have been allayed. I'll worry again about doing it at 30 weeks of course but every week inside is to the good. Also, there is every chance that I won't have to deliver early and will go to term, so lots of good news.

tuckingfits Thu 11-Jul-13 17:25:20

Yeah,it's not exactly handy unless you live in Kilbirnie,Beith or Dalry!

As for the models - I think it's unlikely most have ever held a baby,let alone had one & breastfed it!!

My username comes from the fact that I have a filthy mouth,ridiculous boobs & thought it was clever to turn one of my favourite double barrelled swears into a non-sweary username. It doesn't take much to amuse me :D

GTbaby Thu 11-Jul-13 17:31:11

Woop. We have a new thread. I noticed we were near the end last night but then couldn't get Internet at work today.

Better feed the lil man before catching up on thread.

ananikifo Thu 11-Jul-13 17:43:47

Bridget I'm so sorry about the test. I last failed a driving test last September and am taking a long break from it. I'm hoping I could pass during mat leave. You are brave and amazing for persevering with the driving tests through pregnancy.

roofio87 Thu 11-Jul-13 17:55:50

well ana I'm even worse, my last failed driving test was 8 years ago, oops!! I know its rubbish Bridget but do keep going, I regret giving up now!!

pinkbuttons Thu 11-Jul-13 18:24:56

Thankyou you for new thread roxvox 3 months to go makes me think I really nees to get my arse in gear, but also how exciting!!
tucking if bras havent been snatched up then Id be more than happy to pay postage cost. they would be a great help if they dont fit you.

Sorry about driving test bridget I have been working up the courage to take mine, but havent been brave enougg since being pregnant. Hope either retail therapy or cake have helped this afternoon xx

char1eston Thu 11-Jul-13 19:19:05

Sorry about the test Bridget - you will pass. I can't imagine how off putting it is to have someone kicking you in the tummy while you are trying to concentrate on what you are being asked to do.

Thanks for the new thread roxvox.

Bowlfull maybe if we talk through the night you could get to finish a thread?!

They occasionally sell hot milk nursing bras on Zulilly. It was definitely my favourite bra I had last time and would love to get another couple. I agree with M&S being a bit shite with measuring. I was wearing 36C pre preg and got measured as a 32E at Bravissimo post preg. I can't remember how long it took my ribs to go back unfortunately but if you get some bra extenders and buy the bras on the smaller side, they will help with making them last a bit longer. I think I was in 36E whilst BF but can't really remember. I'm sure i was told that 38 weeks would be a good time to be measured for nursing bras too.

Sorry your DP is being an arse MoN. Makes me appreciate my DP for getting up in the night when DD wakes up, doing most mornings and tidying (he's not so good at cleaning but you can't have everything). Umlauf, sounds like I'm a lot like you - I'm definitely the untidy one in the house but neither of us are good at cleaning. I do no ironing at all and it hadn't even occurred to me that I will have to iron school uniforms - blimey!

DD just came downstairs to say goodnight (DP has done bath/bedtime as I've been feeling rubbish today) and she said she wanted to stay with me all night. Very cute but it was a bit of a delay tactic as I can now hear her upstairs complaining about bed.

umlauf - can't believe your deposit is sooooo expensive but glad the funds came through in time.

Have a splendid holiday flyer - make the most of the relaxation time - holidays will never be the same again!

For those looking for videos, they used to give this DVD out at the MW but I don't think they do now. Might be useful for some...

PseudoBadger Thu 11-Jul-13 19:22:09

I had a definite waddle to my walking today - anyone else?

Oh no Bridget! D you think you will leave it until post baby to try again now?

Hooray on the flat umlauf!

Glad you are feeling and looking better falcon.

MoN I hope you don't have any trouble for your strike today, although probably wouldn't be a bad thing if you did to get things sorted out.

Super hot and sticky today. DH is making a delicious smelling coriander noodle dinner. Mmm making me very hungry.

That's interesting, a couple of. You have said midwives were lukewarm at best about whooping cough vaccine. I imagine it is probably best for me to get it as I work with germy young children who seem to get everything but will definitely research it now. Thanks.

We have an HMI inspection on Wednesday next week so super stress getting everything ready at work. I really can't be bothered!

Thanks also for. The new thread and for putting the spreadsheet link at the top.

Me again. Orange Blossom was the main smell in my wedding scent and its flower meaning is fertility.

Soupqueen Thu 11-Jul-13 19:44:47

I got an email today about the Bravissimo sale - good timing if anyone is needing to go bra shopping.

Shirehobbit Thu 11-Jul-13 19:46:36

I can't believe they're inspecting you in the last week of term, orangeblossom?! shock

ananikifo Thu 11-Jul-13 19:47:04

As a late October due date, I'm always behind in this thread, but my 25 week mw appt is tomorrow. She'll take a fundal height, right? They've put a growth chart in my notes that seems to be customised for me, and doesn't exactly follow the 1 cm= 1 week pattern. Does not every hospital do this? What I'm fascinated by is this growth chart seems to equate the fundal heights to foetal weights. I'll definitely be watching this over the next three months, although it seems really dubious as lots if women see to be sent for scans and go on to have large babies.

cuillereasoupe Thu 11-Jul-13 19:52:17

My ex before DP was a complete neat freak (to the point of tutting if I wrinkled the tablecloth hmm) and I have to say having the same housekeeping standards was one of my top five criteria for a new partner!

I have been walking like an old woman today. Ouch.

Natalieand Thu 11-Jul-13 20:04:16

U ladies so like to chat, but I only ever mumsnet from my phone and I cannot remember for the life of me half of what was read so I'm not being rude by not joining in the discussing

Hope u and your dp manage to resolve everything MoN
For me dh says he doesn't mind what I do house work wise bit I like it to be neat and tidy for when he gets home even if that means rushing round for the last hour before he comes home lol but tbh I'm more of a tidy freak than him, he never cooks but if for some reason I'm not well or not up to it then he is happy to pay for a take away his idea of him doing dinner

After my busy lego land day yesterday and rushing round town to resolve a bridesmaid and pageboy disaster for my sister then having to do the food shop and tidy the house my back hurts my bump hurts my feet hurt and now my wrist hurts... Thinking maybe carpal tunnel syndrome as I had it last pregnancy

Excuse my rudeness but I can't rember who failed their driving test today but commiserations to you, I passed third time too to be honest third time seems to be a very common number to pass on just keep going and don't give up failing the driving test is no reflection on your driving skills as I bet 99% of ppl on the road today couldn't pass a driving test now if they had too xx

Glad everything went well at the scan (whoever it was that had their scan today)

According to me several weather apps on my phone its gunna be hot like this up until Wednesday (as far as my forecast goes)

Smitten1981 Thu 11-Jul-13 20:09:49

Ananikifo - I had my 25 week appt today. She didn't measure anything, just said my uterus should be just above my belly button and felt it and said it was. That's as far as checking anything went.

Shirehobbit Thu 11-Jul-13 20:18:37

I have no appetite tonight, but have just discovered Fruit Pastille lollies - so gorgeous grin

Smitten1981 Thu 11-Jul-13 20:20:36

I'm obsessed with those lollies Shire. We get through 2 packs a week.

I didn't really go on strike Orange. I just let him think I had. I wad sitting in the garden when he came home and he sat beside me and tried to start a conversation with me but ad he's not yet apologised I just muttered one word answers.
He asked if I'd felt the baby move today ad he always does and I was really cruel and told him she hadn't moved since last night.
It's like getting blood out of a stone but I'm determined I will get an apology. He does know he's in the wrong because there's been no shouting at all tonight.

roofio87 Thu 11-Jul-13 20:33:33

anyone else watching the great British budget menu on bbc 1? its very interesting re our.conversations about food budgets. these people have so little money for food, but Its giving good tips about how to.eat well cheaply. we definitely over spend on unecessary treats!!

I am now that you've mentioned it roofio.

claphammama Thu 11-Jul-13 20:56:52

I'm watching it! can't believe the poor old man who has the budget of 1 pound for his dinners... or the woman who skips breakfast and dinner and saves the best bits for her daughter...

First Dates start in 7min too. Hope there will be some outrageous people tonight!

I'm totally exhausted today after today's total of 3 hours commute. So DP is on bedtime duty and all I can do is veg on the sofa and watch TV...

textbook Thu 11-Jul-13 20:59:09

Thanks for the new thread roxvox smile

Congrats on the flat Umlauf, and commiserations on the driving test Bridget - if it makes you feel any better, I failed my first test for driving the wrong way on a one-way street, and the test was "terminated in the interest of public safety"! Oops...

Sorry to hear about all the twattish dp/h's - mine was on fine form yesterday evening (birthday) when asked to help me clean some milk up that I had spilt on the floor. I have SPD so am finding getting down onto the ground difficult (and getting up again impossible!), and was told "all the other pregnant women I've known have managed - why are you so useless?" shock They have no idea. Sigh.

Love hearing about all the names. Mine is just a random word I thought of - was doing my degree at the time and remember looking around the room desperately for inspiration!

Have my GTT tomorrow morning, so about to have last snack grin. Dreading the blood tests as my veins are crap and I'll end up with both from my right hand, which will then be agony. I'm going to ask if they will put a cannula in instead so at least I'm only punctured once... I'm going to spend the waiting time doing baby shopping online to cheer me up!

Shire it isn't ofsted, but we got requires improvement in October, then HMI inspected us as well shortly after and they said we should be "good" soon if not already, now they are coming back to check we are, and that will trigger another ofsted, probably at the beginning of next term now. I may still be there by then bleugh.

Shirehobbit Thu 11-Jul-13 21:11:28

I hope it goes well, orange
I found myself offering to delay my maternity leave if my school gets the call in the first couple of weeks of the autumn term.

Natalieand Thu 11-Jul-13 21:21:18

Tips for seriously aching feet ladies ?

Have put first dates on to record series now as I keep missing it! And will have to catch up with the food budgeting one on Iplayer tommorow as I intend to do absolutely nothing because I've really overdone it the last two days and am feeling it so bad now x

PseudoBadger Thu 11-Jul-13 21:42:01

I soak mine for a while Nat and then put them up until bed smile

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 22:03:57

Just wanted to pop back on to say thank-you so much for all the kind words and encouragement re: my driving test - it's really helped cheer me up smile

Not really sure of my next steps as I'm going to struggle fitting in lessons over the school summer holidays and then I think I'll be getting a bit too big behind the wheel...

Off to have a relaxing bath. Oh, not sure who mentioned it but I'm definitely starting to waddle too.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 11-Jul-13 22:09:35

Oh, completely agree that fruit pastille lollies are gorgeous. M & S do a similar Colin the caterpillar lolly that is also scrummy. My current craving is for strawberry and tropical flavour calippos - they are divine.

PseudoBadger Thu 11-Jul-13 22:25:31

That was me Bridget, just had a lovely waddle with the dogs grin

They are my favourite calippos too!

Well Desperate Dan took Linah to the park with the dog earlier and came back with a big slab of chocolate for me so I think that's my apology.
He's just told me that he took my house keys to work with him this morning as he thought I might lock him out.
I really want to learn to drive. Summer holidays would be so much easier if I could drive. I think it's a mini bus we need though.

I've definitely had a growth spurt, moving, bending etc all getting more difficult! 26 weeks tomorrow, didn't get measured by mw on Mon, she said I will do at 28 weeks. I'm leaving work at beginning of sept, 4 weeks hol then mat leave 2 weeks b4 due date! 20 shifts! (disclaimer I only work 3 shifts a week and I have 2 weeks hol planned b4 then too)

I had a customer at work today say "Ooh u can't have long left!" ummm yes 3 months! In contrast I had another customer say I looked fab and a mum at pre school said I was tiny, love how people's views can vary so much!

We know all about your relaxing baths *Bridget grin

I hate people asking when I'm due threeblondies as they can never hide their surprise when I tell them I'm not due until the middle of October. Everyone thinks I must be approaching my due date.

tuckingfits Thu 11-Jul-13 23:57:01

No problem pinkbuttons,you're the first to voice an interest so they are your's! Can you pm me your address & I will attempt to get to post office tomorrow. I'll be back but am just home & need to chill out & cool down. Work is disgustingly hot & I need a cold shower.

Blondies, yes I had a stranger in the loos on the boat trip last week say ooh the baby's due then, and she had to back track when I said I was only just 6 months. Most people say I am small though. I look massive in some clothes and not in others.

Had a lovely shoulder massage from DH last night, I rolled my maternity cushion into a circle with a hole in the middle for the bump to hang into so I could lay on my front. Still achey shoulder this morning, think the big boobs are making me hunch over and it is along an old car accident injury, I think I will always ache there if I ache anywhere.

How are you feeling this morning Tarlia?

Haylebop12 Fri 12-Jul-13 08:46:25

Morning ladies!

Finally back with the land of the living, well the oct

Haylebop12 Fri 12-Jul-13 08:56:42

Morning ladies!

Finally back with the land of the living, well the October thread. Been working all my shifts together and I find it difficult to keep up when I'm not off work.

Can't remember who it was but I also didn't get measured at 25 weeks. She felt where stuff was and seemed happy with that but I too feel like I've had a spurt. I won't see the mw now till 32 weeks, should be 31 but with me on holiday then her its getting pushed back. Do feel like getting in touch to get measured though?

bridget hope you enjoyed your bath wink there's always next time for your test smile

MoN that would be my dhs way of apologising too!

I'm also getting the "wow you've really grown" to "your bump is so neat" I definitely feel bigger then I am I think

threeblondies I'm finishing around the same time as you (28th aug) as I'm also adding holiday on. Also have two weeks still to take upon my return so its turned out to be 43 weeks altogether.

6 shifts lefts till my holidays then 12 when I get back before mat leave starts. Wow sounds so close now!

Going to fetch the Moses basket tomorrow and any other baby stuff I've forgotten about in our old loft oop north. I want to wash it all while the weather is nice too but I realise its a little early!

Anyone else getting inpatient? I think because we talk about him using his name, as a real person type thing it seems like he should be here!!!

Happy sunny Friday to you all!

Wickedgirl Fri 12-Jul-13 09:38:32

Hayley......I am so impatient! I hope the next 13 weeks fly by. I can't wait to meet the little person growing inside me. It will be nice to be able to walk again too!

Haylebop12 Fri 12-Jul-13 10:19:46

My friend is 6 weeks behind and I swear her pregnancy is going faster then mine hmm

Umlauf Fri 12-Jul-13 10:25:44

Morning everyone. orange I am sooo jealous of your shoulder massage! I never get massages, DH is crap at them and his thumbs get sore hmm

charleston* I couldn't believe how expensive rental deposits were either, we were panicking because a lot of places insist on 10K in a special bank account, which acts as an insurance in case you can't pay rent (it is really really difficult in spain to evict tenants) So in a way we were lucky ours was "only" 3k plus 1k estate agents fees and then first months deposit. We've learnt a lot very quickly!

Hayle its so lovely you are talking about him with his name! I have sort of started to do the same but it feels slightly strange to do so, DH hasn't yet. Was it Isaac? I'm really impatient too now, the fear is subsiding and I just want to meet him! Dh says he wants to meet him so he can have someone to talk to when I mumsnet on my phone/ipad in the evenings...

Blimey shirehobbit that is so nice of you to offer to go in for the inspection! What do you teach? I really want to train as a 'real' teacher if we move back to England as I love teaching TEFL to teenagers so much.

blondies so funny how people's bump reactions can vary! I think a lot of the time they have no ieda and just pick something to say out of the pregnancy phrase bank. I wish someone would describe me as small though, I keep being told how HEEEOOOUUUUGGGGGEEE I am, although I think I'm looking small - average in the bump region, going by everyones FB photos.

I may be being a bit silly here, but would anyone else be really put off from using a name if it was used by the royal couple? We've decided on Albert (Bertie)and have been for ages, but then someone on another thread said it was a contender for the royal baby name and I thought that if it was, I don't know if I could go ahead with it, everyone would think we were staunch royalists and had copied them!

Hope you're feeling better today bridget

I'm off to blightly this afternoon! Got my shopping list for Boots to get all the napopies/lanisol etc. Any recommendations??!

roxvox Fri 12-Jul-13 11:25:07

Umlauf same goes for us re baby names. James is the top name on our boys list, but it is also the bookies favourite for the new Royal baby! DH and I discussed it last night and agreed that, if they do opt for James, then we will probably use it as a middle name instead. DH's family love the Royals, and so I think people would assume that that's why we chose the name and not because it is an old family name.

TheCatIsUpTheDuff Fri 12-Jul-13 12:59:22

Bridget - another one sending commiserations for the test. I passed on my 7th. Keep buggering on.

I feel like shit today, light-headed and dizzy. Good job I haven't got to achieve much. Baby is wiggling about quite happily, thankfully.

Have most people got pretty good ideas about names? We have not got a scooby. DH really wanted Mia, which I like, but seems to have gone off it, then I came up with Hazel, which grew on him, but then I remembered that someone I used to know and really dislike had a very badly-behaved daughter called Hazel, so I'm not so sure. He likes Alice, but I don't think it goes with our surname. She's going to be called Babything or Kitten at this rate!

roofio87 Fri 12-Jul-13 13:01:02

oh my ladies, those who.already have dcs I do not know how you do it!! I have my 3.5 yo nephew and my 10 month old niece today and I'm shattered!! nephew is watching toy story as I needed a break from his 10 000 questions a minute and niece is still happily playing despite supposedly always having a nap straight after lunch!! she just wont go down!! I'm guessing she'll tire herself out eventually!?!?

JellyCurls Fri 12-Jul-13 13:02:20

Am sitting here at work and I swear I can feel my feet puffing up as every minute passes. Can't work out what I can put them on to raise them up a bit. Making for a bit of a grumpy Jelly.

Got a pre-natal pamper day to look forward to tomorrow so that should make me feel better. Never had a massage before so a bit nervous

Haylebop12 Fri 12-Jul-13 13:04:12

Yes umlauf were going with Isaac. Funny because when I was of with dd her name was also decided from 20w scan and when people used it, it felt weird! And wow, that's an expensive deposit! Ours was same as our rent. However some did want over £1k for a house that was £575pm! Tbh they needed the thousand to get that one livable!

I think the royal name would put me off tbh. Not long to wait mind. Just like anyone with kids calle Brooklyn, suri etc you automatically think they've copied celebs.

claphammama Fri 12-Jul-13 13:13:18

Feeling like shit today too... positively lifeless and shuttered... perhaps the air pressure is lower or something? can't wait to go home today... should actually achieve something today but can't see it happening.

I know what you mean about names. DS's name is Leonardo and when he was born, 5 years ago, Leonardo di Caprio seemed to be the flavour of the year. So many people asked me whether we named DS after him. And I don't even like him as an actor! Thanks God we don't seem to be getting it anymore...

Natalieand Fri 12-Jul-13 13:18:14

Its been so quiet on

thecat we haven't decided on a name ATM I like dexter and theo but it seems to change every week to be honest so god knows what it will be by October 14th saying that dd referred too the baby as dexter the other day and its made me sway more towards they name now lol but if by some miracle the royals chose a name I had planned on using I would definately discount it

Got such a headache/migraine behind the eyes but its quite over cast today so I think its probly the air pressure making it worse

roofio its a bit different when its your own kids kind of- lol its easier to tell them to shhhhh for a start and like u say usually the little one would usually be having a nap right now x

I'm shattered as well today - interesting theory about the air pressure clapham, although I think for me it's because I've actually had to use my brain and do some work this week, which is the first time for a while blush

roofio don't assume she will tire, she will certainly probably get over tired and have a melt down - helpful!

Can't decide whether to spend this afternoon listing what I need to hand over for mat leave at work, or listing jobs to do at home before baby arrives.....(or have a little snooze under my desk)

chickieno1 Fri 12-Jul-13 13:33:43

Sorry about the test bridget. I'm another one who gave up after two very frustrating "tests" probably about 5 years ago. Will have to do the whole process again which I'm not looking forward to. Keep going as you'll probably get it next time.

We have no names here yet.......

Congrats on getting the apt sorted. Must be such a relief umlauf. Enjoy boots smile lansinoh is pretty good stuff as was kamillosan for baby's bum.

Impatient for baby to arrive but also bit apprehensive. Feeling q unite down at the moment. Just worrying about everything family, finances, career (lack of at the minute) ..........feel like I want to curl up somewhere and not come out til oct. I know that'll make things worse but just feel crap sad

Sorry about me me me. Feel like don't have anyone to talk to at moment and don't want to worry dh sad

Maybe some sunshine will help

claphammama Fri 12-Jul-13 13:44:52

sorry you are feeling down chickien - these are very normal worries and, as you can see, we all have days like this. The good thing is that they don't last! You can always talk to us and indulge in me me me posts here X

bowlfull I'm so tired pretending I have a brain... and they expect me to use brain every day here... I don't have it - I put my handheld hoover in the fridge yesterday...

DS felt the baby kick for the first time last night - got so excited, he was squeaking with joy. The most excited big brother in the world

Just got an email from our Parent Teacher Association about end of year and teacher gifts. And realised that our secretary's surname is Careless... isn't it a perfect surname for a secretary? Currently the highlight of my day!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 12-Jul-13 13:50:56

Lots of us seem to be feeling rather crappy today, flowers and brew to anyone feeling rough.

chickie so sorry to hear you are feeling down - I think pregnancy is such a tough time because although there are, of course, lots of lovely bits it's also so worrying - not only about baby's health, the birth etc, but also all the other stuff you mention - finances, impact on career etc. (I've not got one either!)

Perhaps it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a chat with your DH? Is he generally pretty supportive about things? Perhaps a little TLC and reassurance from him is just what you need right now?

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 12-Jul-13 13:57:58

Ah clapham - your DS sounds a real sweetheart. I'm not sure if DD has really felt our baby or not. A few times she has put her hand on my bump and insisted she could feel kicking, but I'm not convinced as I've not felt anything at the time confused

DP hasn't felt the baby yet (he gets very squeamish) although he has seen my belly twitch from a distance.

Love the secretary's name too.

Shirehobbit Fri 12-Jul-13 14:28:20

umlauf I currently teach KS2 at a girls independent day school.

chikenio - I feel very much the same, a lot of the time. Finances in particular, keep me awake at night. Not helped by todays's events: Catastrophic toilet leak - looks like seals at the bottom of the cistern are shot. Cue dripping through the kitchen ceiling.
We're off to Wales this afternoon, so have switched off the water, drained the cistern and will ignore/forget about it for a few days.
DH's patronising tone on the phone when I called to consult about it though, I will not forget so easily. Gggrrrrr angry

LostMySocks Fri 12-Jul-13 14:30:22

No Real idea on names yet. DH wouldn't take things seriously until my bump started showing properly and he felt it kick at about 24 weeks. We m

LostMySocks Fri 12-Jul-13 14:32:56

Wretched phone. We move into a new house in 2weeks so maybe that will get us more focused. Otherwise the poor thing will continue to be called baby bear after it arrives

On a different topic. Anyway else getting really bad calf cramp? I've woken up screaming several times and DH finding it quite stressful as his first assumption is that there is something wrong with the baby

roofio87 Fri 12-Jul-13 14:36:26

yes to the calf cramp, always getting it in the night!!

niece finally gone to sleep, just put her down and thought I'd let her cry for 2 mins and she was asleep after 30 seconds!!

PseudoBadger Fri 12-Jul-13 14:42:33

I'm worn out today, took DS to the farm this morning and then we took the dogs for a walk. My back and tummy are sore and I feel quite PGP-like today.
DS has never really just let me rest, he loves to have me play with him or I have to follow him up the garden or something -"Mummy come and see..."
I've managed a quick sit down by getting him to paint the steps with water grin

TheCatIsUpTheDuff Fri 12-Jul-13 15:28:31

Thanks for the brew and flowers , Bridget. Same to you. I dragged myself into town to get some tailor's chalk and feel a bit more alive now. My job for the afternoon is to make a start on my baby blanket - got some cream fleece and some cotton fabric with cows and flowers - just need to attach one to the other and turn inside out. Keeping it simple as I haven't got a machine and I'm not very skilled.

DH felt the baby wiggling for the first time the other night! His response was "there's definitely something in there, then. Not just toffee crisps!" Charming and delightful man. He then did his best snoring walrus impression all night while the baby did star jumps in my belly. I REALLY don't want to lose the spare bed, but we have nowhere else to put any baby stuff, it's all in my mum's spare room now!

Had a long lie today as i felt pretty rotten in the morning i think its all the up and down to the loo in the night hmm

I am sorry you are feeling down chicken but as clapham this is exactly the place where you can let off steam about your worries, we all get days like it!

Umlauf congrats on the apartment i quite like working to tight budgets for things (not that i have a choice) I Do love a bargain though, do they have like freecycle or that over there??

Dollybird86 Fri 12-Jul-13 15:48:41

Hi can I join Im due on October 24th & having a girl!

Natalieand Fri 12-Jul-13 15:58:48

Sorry to all those feeling crappy today xx

dolly always room for one more on our ever growing bus :-) and baby girls are a rare bread in this neck of the woods xx

roofio87 Fri 12-Jul-13 17:14:39

phew handed my niece and nephew back over to my sis!! just starting the 4 hour trip home now!! I'm gonna be so tired by th time I get home!!! also, I think I might actually be melting!!

PseudoBadger Fri 12-Jul-13 17:29:38

Hope you enjoyed it Roofio! Long trip though sad

The house is a bloody tip and my pelvis is so painful it feels like it is fused into my lower back, I can't really stand up straight. So the house is staying a tip.

House is a tip here too pseudo I would rather spend time having fun with the family :P

Where can i buy a nice dress its my cousins 21st at the end of the month and I really don't want to feel fat and frumpy

HotSoupDumpling Fri 12-Jul-13 18:09:17

orangeblossom, I know you said this ages up thread, but that's a bloody good idea to roll up my Theraline into a circle and put my bump in it for back rubs. I've been kneeling forward in cushions (following directions from the What To Expect book) but your way seems much better!

What's the budget Falcon? And what styles do you like - Empire line or more tight bodycon-ish?

LostMySocks Fri 12-Jul-13 18:28:40

If you just want pretty sundresses there is a sale at Jojo maman. I've just bought 2. Not to everyone's taste though

Prob more empire line hotsoup I have up to £100 I am a size 18 in dresses if that helps! I saw the wrap in jojo its definitely up for consideration. I now it sounds ridiculous but this section of my family see me as the poor, low class relative. I want to look fab so I have a bit of confidence!

HotSoupDumpling Fri 12-Jul-13 18:51:17

I don't think that's ridiculous at all - feeling good about yourself is so important especially in pregnancy! she said, buying more and more maternity clothes

Isabella Oliver and Seraphine have dresses in your budget and size (although IO only have 'size 5', which is size 16-18). Asos have some more interesting and fashionable styles although they won't be the same quality.

a bit too casual maybe
if you don't mind wearing black to a wedding

Natalieand Fri 12-Jul-13 19:14:39

Also these two falcon, not maternity but a maternity style - my bridesmaid dress isn't maternity but is a similar style to this and accommodates my bump and I'm bigger than u xx

royal blue

And I no someone who has actually got this themselves to wear to a wedding xx

I really like the seraphine one! coral is my favorite colour goes with my dark coloring (I think) Thanks for the help hot soup and nat and lostmysocks you are so helpful!! Its just a 21st birthday but I really want to feel good thank you so much!

Shootingstarsandcomets Fri 12-Jul-13 19:54:25

Ooh busy day. We won't be using our names if the total baby gets one of our choices. Quite excited about the royal baby though, I bet kate middleton is so hot!!
I've been in the countryside all day with ds' godmummy having a picnic and good long chat, I boiled and melted even in the shade. Am now exhausted and treating myself to a glass of wine. Happy days!

Shootingstarsandcomets Fri 12-Jul-13 19:55:47

Oh and meant to say I bought some jeans in jojo maman for only £10. They aren't amazing but they are good value for a tenner I think. They come up big though I ordered a 10 and they were huge and I would say I'm normally in between 8/10.

Yes I wouldn't want the same name as the royal baby either. Charlotte is/was front runner for a while which we are thinking of (known as Lotte). It has probably put me off the pushchair colour I would have chosen knowing they have it just because I wouldn't want people to think I was copying (silly I know).

Glad to help with cushion hotsoup, I don't think it would work once I get much bigger but worked well for now. Going to try for another one tonight.

My feet and legs are swollen too, my leggings have dug lines up the sides of my calves. Nice. I also worried my wedding and engagement ring had got to tight this morning, but they loosened again after washing in cold water. I will keep an eye on my chubby fingers as may end up having to take rings off eventually sad

Also welcome Dolly and sorry you are having a down day(s) chickien. biscuit

JellyCurls Fri 12-Jul-13 20:03:31

Falcon I got a very pretty maxi dress from primark. It has a halter neck top and it ties round back just under boobs so is very flattering. Not maternity though but looks like it is

GTbaby Fri 12-Jul-13 21:12:14

confused My feet hurt. My legs ache. Feeling a bit poop actually.

But woop woop. The weekend is here. 8 days left at work grin

Bk to a topic from last thread. Rox u were asking about changing nappies at night time.

My situation wasn't a choice but ended up beneficial to me. Mil hadn't cleared out the nursery so crib went in our room.
It was right next to me. I get a travel changing Mat wipes and nappies next to me. So I literally didn't leave bed to feed and change. Can't imagine leaving the room.
I changed ds1 nappy before every night feed. So he was wide awake and took a decent feed. Sry A bit gina ford. Lol.
But some ladies on my antenatal thread changed nappies more frequently at night... One lady changed before AND after a feed as lo wouldn't feed with a wet nappy. N then would always poo during a feed.

So really varies from baby to baby.

Really want a massage. But SPD means I can't lay on my side hmm last time I was 8months and they did my massage while I was on my side. It was bliss. But now can only lay in my back. So wondering what they could do? Anyone have experience of this? Have been considering just a leg massage. But ideally want a full pampering day at the salon.

Someplaces do on yr frontons cushion GT.

Agh what happened there!

Some places do on your front on cushions GT.

Natalieand Fri 12-Jul-13 21:17:53

GT I did the same with dd I used to change her before a feed so she was wide awake enough,, funny isn't it they wake up screaming for a feed and few mins later there too asleep to drink it all little monkeys x

Right ladies I'm off to bed got the early shift for Next sale tomorrow 5am!! There's quite a bit going in neutral and coloured babygrows 3pks for about £8, fair amount of outfits too but might be a bit summery for our autumn babbas, older kids stuff there's a fair amount but nice weather has meant we have sold a lot in last few weeks. To be honest I think as usual all the decent stuff will get grabbed by the die hard sale customers queuing from 4am, people who come later in the day think we have rubbish stuff on sale but the shops are full first thing till they literally run down and get as much as they can carry! I've been doing this for 16yrs and I love first day of sale, love people watching! grin

monkeytree Fri 12-Jul-13 22:00:43

Can I join you ladies? Due October 25th, expecting a little girl. I have a dd who is nearly 7 and is very excited about having a sister!

Welcome monkey! smile

JellyCurls Fri 12-Jul-13 22:19:59

Welcome new ladies to a very chatty bus.

Lets talk bumps and baby positions. My bump is very low and baby still all seems to below belly button. Carrying very low this time, is anyone else,

monkeytree Fri 12-Jul-13 22:22:51

Thanks Orange Blossom. So nice to have somewhere to share the ups and downs of pregnancy especially as dd recently nicknamed me 'Moody Margaret' - a character out of her Horrid Henry book!!! They say children say it as it is but honestly, I hope that nickname doesn't stick with me!!! Hormones everywhere but at least I have learnt to laugh at myself over the past few weeks!

chickieno1 Fri 12-Jul-13 22:48:24

Thanks everyone for kind words after my wobble! Feel bit better. Haven't been sleeping well which of course doesn't help. I will chat to dh about things too.

Falcon I thought asos weren't bad for dresses esp if for night out etc.

Yikes about plumbing issues shire. Hope you can have a nice time away despite the worry.

Clapham your ds must be so excited. It must be nice he's old enough to really be involved smile

Gt some places have holes in the beds for bump and boobs, some people find this comfy. Also you could go for preg reflexology which is really relaxing too?

chickieno1 Fri 12-Jul-13 22:49:56

Welcome dolly and monkey!

pinkmoonlight Fri 12-Jul-13 22:51:46

Welcome monkeytree- you are my due date buddy!

And yes to the leg cramps- my DH also panics when I shout out in pain, but then quickly laughs at me attempting to manoveure myself out of bed to deal with it!

chickieno1 Fri 12-Jul-13 22:55:01

I ll try and remember stretch for leg cramps. Learnt a few at prenatal yoga when preg with ds. Magnesium also good and bananas although these not so good for constipation!

Plenty of fluids too esp as its so hot

chickieno1 Fri 12-Jul-13 23:00:43

Standing facing a wall with one leg bent and the other leg straight a bit behind you with heel flat on ground and then push down to stretch calf muscles. Switch sides then. Used to do this before going to bed. Haven't got cramps as yet but might start exercises

rubytwosday Fri 12-Jul-13 23:18:36

Wow, still had a page from last thread to catch up on and 6 pages on new thread! Welcome Dolly and monkey. umlauf I am paranoid that the royal baby will steal our name. We want to call her Alice and don't have a second choice that I like nearly as much but don't want to constantly explain that we chose it before royal baby was born.... jelly I am also carrying low. Have seen friends and on tv bumps that people can use as tables - high and flat at the top but mine is like a ski slope! Could use some advice but is a bit tmi..... I am struggling with sore and swollen lady bits. Is this normal? I get quite a lot if rubbing from walking about and it is not pleasant!

Smitten1981 Fri 12-Jul-13 23:45:03

Best tip for calf cramp is to flex the foot upwards and it stops it before it cramps up. Works a treat for me!

Smitten1981 Fri 12-Jul-13 23:46:56

By upwards I mean in a towards the front of your knees direction so your rear calf muscle is stretched.

Soupqueen Sat 13-Jul-13 02:42:42

Welcome dolly and monkey!

DH and I were talking about the Royal baby and he made the very good point that we're the lucky ones as, although they may "steal" one of our names, at least we know. Much worse to be expecting now, have the baby maybe a day before, announce the name and then it's the same!

I'm ridiculously tired but was up an hour ago to go to the toilet (so much for me saying I wasn't being woken for toilet trips!), managed almost an hour and then woke up with a raging thirst so I'm up again and will no doubt experience the consequences of all this water in another hour or so.

I was in Bravissimo today, got yet another big ugly bra, and picked up their leaflet on bras in pregnancy and breastfeeding. I'm probably ridiculously naive but it hadn't occurred to me that nursing bras are all non wired. I'm a bit worried about my hopes to breast feed now. I can just about resign myself to months of less than flattering bras, but I'm very short in the body and they all look like they come up really high, I will have literally nothing to wear! Does anywhere do nursing bras with a plunge front in large sizes? It seems like such a vain thing to be worried about, and maybe I won't be as worried in the morning.....

There was almost a fight when I was in Bravissimo! Next cubicle to me was a mother and daughter. The mother was being very vocal about how rubbish the fitter was and how badly the bras fitted - daughter (the one being fitted) was more than happy but Mum was having none of it. I tho k the hot weather is affecting everyone's tempers.

Natalieand Sat 13-Jul-13 07:22:01

Seriously I went to bed at 10pm and woke up for a wee at 1-3-3.30-4.30-5.30-6.30-7.10 I feel like I haven't even been to bed how can in actually wee that much when all I had was a drink of juice with my dinner at 8pm

Argh I'm so tired!!!!

HotSoupDumpling Sat 13-Jul-13 07:33:55

Welcome monkey and dolly! Join in as much or as little as you like, you do not need to be a regular or old poster just to chip in with rants/advice etc!

Falcon, I thought that one was lovely too, as I love coral.

Soup, you're right - if we gave birth slightly before Kate then we might inadvertently choose the same name and people would comment that we copied her!

What colour is her bugaboo?

roxvox Sat 13-Jul-13 08:23:48

That's a very good point soup. That would be pretty gutting!

hotSoup my Gran has informed me (many times) that it's a baby blue Bugaboo. I don't think anyone has seen it yet, but apparently that's what she told some ladies she met, who then told the press.

Another lovely day and we are at my parents house in Cornwall for the weekend, so off to the beach today and then have one of DH's friend's birthday party tonight. So I think I'll be shattered tomorrow!

Hope you all have a lovely day today!

pinkbuttons Sat 13-Jul-13 08:41:48

Morning ladies
Welcome dolly and monkey

Have a lovely weekend away roxvox
Sending my sympathies to all not sleeping well, I hve been waking up to wee but managed just the once last night thank goodness because I was horrendously grumpy yesterday. Hope you manage to find time to nap today natalie

ruby Im not sure if this will help but after giving birth to DS I was very swollen and was advised to wrap up an ice block or peas in a tea towel and use that to reduce swelling. Make sure uts not too cold obviously but just might help a bit, if not might be worth going to Dr just to check no infection or anything?
Cant remember who mentioned it but I have taken off my wedding ring this week, think the heat has made the swelling worse and couldnt get it off on Wednesday night. Feels very odd not having it on.

28 weeks today and also carrying very low this time. Think is makes my bump look smaller.
Enjoy the sun everyone.

char1eston Sat 13-Jul-13 08:42:13

umlauf - sainsburys had 1/3 off lansinoh breast pads the other day - if you're stocking up on things

Flexing my foot helps me too smitten.
This morning I started leaking white milk from my nipples rather than the clear stuff it has been recently. Is this still colostrum?

roofio87 Sat 13-Jul-13 09:27:30

thanks for that charlston my sis recommended trying lots of different makes of breast pad and when you find one you like pay for it, not an item that its worth just getting cheaply!! I've heard the lanisoh ones are good though. my sis was bf my niece while I was staying and she made me have a good old inspect of how it all works, we were laughing cos she.is usually a very reserved person but was more than happy for me to just be closely looking at her boob for a while! was good to see it being done properly in rl though as its the one aspect of looking after a baby I still feel pretty clueless on!! got an appointment with a bf support worker at 30 wks too, a 2 hour workshop so that should be good!

ruby not quite the same but after this heat and a little weight gain I had some rubbing on my bottom yesterday, had to get my free sample of sudocrem out!! god pg is glamorous!!

I managed so well last night, only weed once at 6 30 then straight back to sleep till 9. I needed it!! baby is getting rewarded today with a vast amount of bbq food!!!

roofio87 Sat 13-Jul-13 09:29:35

also, definitely noticed that I can no longer lie on my back without feeling really out of breath and tingly, like I'm not getting enough oxygen round my body, its weird!!

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 09:30:34

Definitely Roofio, I had that issue on the sofa yesterday. I think it's the Vena Cava being squished.

monkeytree Sat 13-Jul-13 09:45:44

Morning Ladies
Another night of walking back and forth to the toilet, think I may soon wear the bedroom carpet out with all my night time treks! Feels like I've been to an all night party but without the alcohol! Hope to catch up with a nap later. The disturbed sleep does catch up with me particularly when I'm at work - my memory and concentration are really affected but break up for the summer hols next week.

Re breastfeeding pads. I think I previously used the Lanisoh pads and remember them being quite soft (dim and distant past of previous pregnancy with dd)

roxvox Cornwall is very lovely hope to visit with the family during the Summer hols, have a lovely time.

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 10:08:32

Lanisoh pads are lovely

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Sat 13-Jul-13 10:20:00

Morning ladies, on my phone so only a short post (makes a change from my epic ones!) but just wanted to say hello to Dolly and Monkey.

Monkey - I'm due DC2 on 7/10 and my DD will be 7 in December so we have a very similar age gap. It will be interesting to see how are 'big' girls get on with being big sisters.

Think DD may have caught impetigo from school - spent the morning frantically googling info on pictures and 'impetigo and pregnancy'.....I'm a bit of a worry wort anyway but having eczema always makes me feel more vulnerable to catching stuff like that. Going to be on the phone to the Doc first thing Monday morn.

Have a lovely day one and all x

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Sat 13-Jul-13 10:22:19

our not are - sorry x

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 10:34:40

roofio I feel the same way and I have a lot of difficulty getting comfortable lying down.

DH is on a rafting trip today. I'm not sure what to do with my day to myself. I had ideas of going to the Next sale but after seeing what's already sold out online I don't see the point. I don't have comfortable enough shoes or clothes right now to just go out for a walk in the heat. My mw told me yesterday that lots of pregnant women need to buy bigger shoes because of the foot swelling.
Hence the need to go shopping. It's a vicious cycle!

I may end up sitting at home watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer and eating ice cream, doing chores in between.

Anyone have nice plans?

Yes Orange it's still colostrum. You'll notice it's a cutard yellow sometimes too.

Hello to Dolly and Monkey. Glad there are more of us expecting girls now.

GTbaby Sat 13-Jul-13 11:06:04

I used tesco own maternity pads. Identical to boots ones. Good and cheap. Sainsbury worse I tried!
Brest pads I used lansol. I didn't really leak much as I didn't seem to have much milk. So couldn't really test them.
Def get lansol nipple cream.
Whitch hazel to put on maternity pads. And lavender for soaking in bath to help stitches heal.

Sry. I know random advise post. Lol grin

JellyCurls Sat 13-Jul-13 11:24:55

Bridget if she has impetigo it's very contagious. Make she has her own face cloth and towel and wash after each use, don't let her touch it or it could spread. Keep washing your hands if you near her too. Dd has caught it a few times from school, you get two kinds. The common one can be treated with fucidin cream but keep applying after rash has cleared. Dd had the streptococcal type which is rare but meant md and DH both ended up with bad tonsillitis this type wa cleared with antibiotics.

Off for my prenatal pampering now which I think I deserve after standing outside ironing for 2 hours. Have a nice day everyone x

roofio87 Sat 13-Jul-13 11:45:31

GT I love random advice posts, it all goes down in my pregnancy notebook!! <geekalert>

GTbaby Sat 13-Jul-13 12:40:17

Argh. Got a letter about blood tests. All clear of GD side. But am anaemic. So need to take iron and frolic acid.
I hate taking iron. I'm rubbish at remembering taking pills and they bung me up confused

Better go find them hmm

chickieno1 Sat 13-Jul-13 13:36:57

Gt baby I m on iron. I put them in my room and take them as soon as I wake up as empty stomach helps absorption. Try and take with juice as the vit c helps absorption too. Plenty of fruit and veggies, I try salad with every dinner, and not majorly bunged up this time. I was with ds which was awful.

chickieno1 Sat 13-Jul-13 13:41:14

For those feeling dizzy when they lie down pseudo is right. It's the growing uterus pressing on your inferior vena cava which is the major vein that carries blood from your legs and pelvis back to your heart. You should lie on your left side to avoid this. You can lie on right too. If on back you have to be pretty propped up but can still feel rubbish. Also stay well hydrated esp in the heat.....

chickieno1 Sat 13-Jul-13 13:46:08

And last one smile

Bit of a random tip, used tea tree oil shower gel from about 37 weeks on til well after ds was born. Meant to be good to reduce infection from any possible stitches etc. I used a paraben and sulphite free one. Can't remember name but got it in whole foods on sale at end of summer. Was a big bottle and lasted ages.

Also used almond oil on my bump and legs as skin was soooo itchy and flaky after gave birth.

Hope everyone having a nice day despite poor sleep due to loo runs (ditto here)

GTbaby Sat 13-Jul-13 14:02:52

Chick - dr letter says to take iron with a meal?

Put all my pills in a bag next to tv. Spend enough time looking in that direction, should remember! Lol

cuillereasoupe Sat 13-Jul-13 14:04:40

I like the idea of frolic acid GT. Where can I get me some? grin

chickieno1 Sat 13-Jul-13 14:30:51

I liked the frolic acid too smile

Gt I take it before breakfast but def at least 15 mins before go downstairs. I took it with meals with ds and was terribly constipated. Also some things compete or inhibit iron absorption like tea and dairy so if you're having those at meal won't help.......

Sometimes you have to try what's best for you. Also depends if it makes you feel sick? My main issue was the constipation at later stages not sickness.

Now I better go take my iron before brekkie smile

GTbaby Sat 13-Jul-13 15:22:38

My husband would love me to take some frolic acid.

Umlauf Sat 13-Jul-13 18:57:42

Oh flip. Just spent an hour changing in and out of outfits to go out for dinner with DHs mates in England. He says to wear what I'm comfy in. I'm now in his t shirt and jogging bottoms. But it'll be fine with heels right?!

Shootingstarsandcomets Sat 13-Jul-13 19:46:42

Frolic acid me up!
I'm so hot. That's all really just hot and feeling like a big moo cow. Ugh. I love the sun but really if it could just be a few degrees cooler that would be so nice.

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 20:13:34

Chicken thanks for the tip about tea tree shower gel. Did you find it drying to your skin?

I have had an absolutely lovely day, with some Buffy and a nice bath in the morning, and Trafford Centre in the afternoon, and minimal chores. DH is in a wonderful mood after his rafting trip.

Normally I'm an Internet shopper but it's so nice to see things in person. Turns out Mamas and Papas makes a HUGE baby bath which I hope will be a solution for us because the house we'll probably get has a shower cubicle, not bath tub. Hopefully baby can use it for a long time. They also make a cheaper footmuff that will match our pushchair well enough, so we don't have to get the £££ one designed for our model. Score!grin

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 20:21:05

Also do I need a room thermometer? Gro eggs are on sale at tesco.

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 20:30:32

Not if your baby monitor has a thermometer on it. I hardly used my Gro Egg.

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 20:34:03

So you need something with a thermometer then?

And I assume I need a baby monitor, even if I plan to have baby in my room for 6 months, right?

Natalieand Sat 13-Jul-13 20:45:25

I've spent the day in my sisters back garden cooking myself now rediculously red and regretting it lol I did have sun cream on but only factor 20

I never had a thermometer for dd's room and she lived to tell the tale x

roofio87 Sat 13-Jul-13 20:53:43

I'm getting a room thermometer just because our house can be quite cold in the winter and I want to be sure its not too cold at night!!

dp's mates are all round for a bbq tonight, its been nice but I'm shattered and cba anymore. there's also a lot of smoking going on which I hate beige round at the best of times but now I really can't stand it. we're outside and everyone is doing it away from me but I'm still getting it. making me feel dead grouchy now!!

Shootingstarsandcomets Sat 13-Jul-13 21:31:50

We have a gro egg but I got it because DH always wants to turn the thermostat to tropical setting- I now have the excuse of saying oh we have to turn the heat down the babys room is too warm!! I'm hot blooded he's cold blooded obviously!
I'm doing some more ridiculous shopping for when I normal size again- anyone know if all saints comes up big or small? I don't know what size to buy.

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 22:30:26

Well thinking about it ana whilst DS was in our room I used the cardboard thermometer bits that come with Gro Bags.

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 22:35:02

Thanks. I actually didn't know that baby monitors have thermometers in them. (Haven't looked at any yet.) I also didn't know gro bags come with cardboard thermometers. I guess we don't need the gro egg then.

Thanks MoN. My boobs are leaking several times a day now. Time to wear pads probably. Will definitely get some lanisoh ones as so many people reccomended them, and maybe try some of the washable cotton ones too. The ones I bought are hot, sweaty and smell like hospitals/sanitary pads.

A very hot sticky day today visiting friends in Southampton then lunch and a little walk in the new forest. The traffic was awful on the way down so I sweated away for 2 and a half hours in the car and have an achey coccyx now. Tying to catch up with friends before I get too huge/busy with a newborn. Next weekend is free though to have some time just the two of us. Not many weekends left for that.

Other friends coming round for a Peruvian themed lunch tomorrow which will remind us of our honeymoon smile

Gro eggs now sold out on tesco direct. Thanks for the tip, though.

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 22:41:03

The cardboard ones are more of a 'ball park' idea of the temperature, ideal if you're not too stressy about things like that. If you prefer accuracy you might want something else!
However bear in mind it's unlikely to be boiling before our babies are 6 months old so if you went for the monitor option that could wait until baby goes in their own room.

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 22:46:01

I have the magic touch. Everything I look at online sells out before I decide if I want it or not.

ananikifo Sat 13-Jul-13 22:57:12

I don't know if we'll be able to delay getting a baby monitor. A friend visited this week (same one who got me panicked about getting a place in nursery) and told DH about baby monitors with sensor pads. He's quite excited about getting one.

PseudoBadger Sat 13-Jul-13 23:07:20

Well we got one of those at about 2 weeks as DS would only sleep on his front..... They are fab.

MrsO27 Sun 14-Jul-13 00:00:34

Hi all, can't remember who mentioned leg cramps but I got struck down with one yesterday when having a nap, and when I say struck down it was honestly like I'd been shot in the leg!! Please someone tell me child birth pain is not as bad?

GTbaby Sun 14-Jul-13 00:15:59

I have a monitor thermometer and fro bag cardboard one. Tbh I pay no attention to it. If I feel chilly I give lo a blanket. When it was snowing I put him in a thicker sleep suit.
I can tell if its cold or not. Don't need 100% accuracy. IMO that is.
I go by the "one extra layer rule". And apply to bedding as well.
Also I check how his back feels. As everyone is different. Clammy or hot I take a layer off.

Wickedgirl Sun 14-Jul-13 06:50:39

I don't bother with baby monitor. When the babies are tiny, they are always close to mums anyway and by the time they are old enough to sleep in their own room, they are very loud and will wake you up just with their shouts

Flyer747 Sun 14-Jul-13 07:41:00

Morning all. I think it's hotter back in the uk than it is here, there is a lovely breeze keeping me cool however my bump has a horrid itchy heat rash on it.

Shooting I find all saints usually comes up smaller than normal, I love their clothes and shoes, I'd say their sizing is similar to Reiss, you are brave shopping now, I love the optimism though grin

I. Have bought an angelcare monitor with sensor pad on ebay. They are £90-£100 new, sell for about £40 on ebay used and there are always 2 or 3 on sale at a time.

Hope you are still having a lovely time flyer.
I was wondering yesterday what I wear in the months after the baby is born when i amnot back to normal but hopefully not enormous either. I guess the same clothes that fitted early in the pregnancy as it will be winter again. If I haven't stretched them all beyond use!

Shootingstarsandcomets Sun 14-Jul-13 10:27:02

Thanks flyer I've ordered a 10 and an 8 so hopefully one will fit and the other will be incentivising!!
I wish there was a breeze here.........
Ds has just finally crawled! He's 10 months so he's quite slow some of his mates have been zooming about for months. He looks so pleased with himself now he can finally do it!

claphammama Sun 14-Jul-13 10:48:31

oh shooting... and so the "fun" begins! :-)

flyer there is absolutely no breeze in London... none. zero. So hot. Make sure you don't overcook your bump as babies can't sweat and regulate their temperature. So keep cool. I will have the same challenge in a couple of weeks!

I didn't really use any monitors for the first months (used them later when i would leave DS in another room) and didn't have a thermometer apart from our thermostats regulating heating. I have the same approach as gt, if it feels cold, dress them, if they feels hot, undress them. I generally think our world is over-engineered and don't like too many gadgets. Unfortunately, I live with a man who adores all kinds of gadgets...! He wants to buy a web cam monitor, also so his mum in Cheltenham can see the baby in his room. SIGH. Planning to oppose it violently if needed!

No plans for today thankfully so planning to do very little. Perhaps go to the Nightingale Lane fete later to see what's happening and bump into other children / parents.

Empress77 Sun 14-Jul-13 16:42:16

Hey all, I dont post much as I cant keep up with you all, such chatterboxes! But just wanted to say -Mrs027 - I too had leg cramps the other day -one after the other - and screamed in panic for my dh to save me - crikey they were awful! And set me off panicking that if I cant cope with leg cramps how am I going to cope with labour! Epidural all the way foe me!

Natalieand Sun 14-Jul-13 17:15:31

I need a moan

I feel like this has been my hardest pregnant week so far! So hot, dh is annoying me, no energy what so ever,I feel like I can't breath properly half the time, I'm tired, I'm up countless times a night for a wee, my backs been sore. 13 more weeks? Really ! sad.

Moan over x

MrsO27 Sun 14-Jul-13 18:34:50

Empress, I am genuinely worried about birth pain. Friends have told me its like period cramps but more intense, which doesn't sound nice, but does sound 'manageable'..... Leg cramps however, holy cow! I'm not sure I've had worse pain before! If child birth is that bad/intense, I'll be taking every type of pain relief on offer! I know I must sound like a wimp blush
Moan away natalie, we all need to at times flowers

MrsO27 Sun 14-Jul-13 18:38:47

Clapham, would the web cam have the ability to pick up sound too? Would not be happy at the prospect of my MIL being able to eavesdrop on conversations in our house!

LostMySocks Sun 14-Jul-13 18:40:35

At least birth pain is worthwhile. Leg cramps just hurt.

natalie I am the same as you at the moment and I just hit 29 weeks today its not getting any easier for me i'm afraid to say flowers

Empress77 Sun 14-Jul-13 19:05:46

Im definietly worried about my pain threshold now i know how much screaming and panic there was with my leg cramps-im sure labor will be far worse so will be begging for all the drugs they can give me as soon as i get there. Altho fearing they may not come quick enough.
I too am super moany - it is waaay to hot, and there are too many flies, and I cannot get comfy ever, my backs broken, I get worn our climbing the stairs.... dread to think how ill fare as I get bigger and bigger. But so so happy the sickness has gone, the extreme itchyness has gone, and I havent yet any of the far worse symptoms im hoping to avoid.....so probably shouldnt complain too much! preganncy does suck. But then its also super awesome chatting to this little man in my belly!

Sparkeleigh Sun 14-Jul-13 19:12:34

I've been reading a book from amazon called The Good Birth Companion by Nicole Croft and it describes labour pain as exertion pain not illness pain which makes it seem a bit more manageable to me. I'm hoping it'll be something like the end of a race or weights session where it feels like everything hurts but the end is in sight. It's quite a practical book so far, I like it.

I went pram shopping with DH yesterday and I really liked the Baby Jogger City Mini, though I'd probably get the GT version because I'm short and the handle was too high for me. The only thing I didn't like was that the pushchair bit was forward facing only, but I think the other advantages outweigh that and I'm planning on using a sling too. I did see a bugaboo something or other which was amazing, but then I saw the £800 price tag grin I liked it less after that!

flowers Nat I soaked my feet in a bucket of cold water earlier and it was blissful, really helped me keep cool if that's any use to you...

roofio87 Sun 14-Jul-13 19:26:28

I'm hoping I'll cope quite well with the pain. I may well regret saying that, but I do have quite a high pain threshold. me and dp were talking about it last night saying it can't be as bad for either of us as after I had a.major op to remove most of my tongue and have it rebuilt with ny leg as well as a neck dissection!! those days afterwards were truly horrible and I remember thinking at one point I wouldn't have minded dying right then just to not feel so bad!! Haha, sounds so over dramatic, but true. if I can endure that followed by months of chemotherapy and radiotherapy then I can take child birth!!
saying that I don't in any way mean to imply that we should all therefore just get on with it, it will be tough and painful so we all have the right to be anxious and complain about it!!!

Soupqueen Sun 14-Jul-13 19:55:36

That's a great way of looking at it, sparkle, I feel I could cope with exertion pain, I've done a lot of physical things.

Sorry people are suffering, hope you all feel better soon.

Natalieand Sun 14-Jul-13 19:56:07

I'm the exact opposite roofio when I had my first ever tonsillitis (although a severe case) last year I would have happily traded death there and then for that, or infact gone through child birth again rather than that lol. My pain threshold is terrible I discussed with my midwife the other day that I was hoping to try not having an epidural this time and she swiftly informed me that I may not have a choice as with dd although I had wanted an epidural she said I most likely would have been asked to have one as my bp was out of control and an epidural can bring it down a little so if that happens again then I will have to have an epidural even if I don't want one which is a little disappointing.

That idea sounds amazing sparkleigh but I'm not sure i have the energy to get up and prepare a bowl of ice water, do u think its just the heat making everything so much more dramatic for me? Like the exhaustion etc? In having bloods done on 22nd July and testing for iron at the same time.

Heat wave is set to continue all week.... Oh the joys- usually I am a sun worshipper!

Roll on school holidays!

monkeytree Sun 14-Jul-13 19:59:58

Natalie you are not on you own feeling that way. Sleep deprivation really makes everything else seem a whole lot worse. I keep trying to remind myself that these feelings will pass but I'm very short on patience and like you I'm counting the weeks ahead.

I've just stuck my feet in a bucket of cold water and I'm sure my hot feet have warmed the water up by quite a bit!

roofio it sounds as if you've been through a lot. I have friends that have been through chemo, surgery etc and I think this kind of experience does make you more resilient to the things life has to throw at you

ananikifo Sun 14-Jul-13 20:50:44

Thanks for the opinions on baby monitors everyone. I was initially thinking I wouldn't get one till after baby was born, to see if I thought I needed it. DH is quite gadgety and may get one himself, sooner rather than later. If/when we get one eBay seems like the way to go.

On the topic of pain in childbirth, here is a list of things that mothers in a survey say are more painful than childbirth. link. It doesn't help me much because I haven't suffered from any of things on the list, apart from a mild UTI which wasn't painful. I do worry about the pain if I think about it but my attitude is that there's nothing I can do about it now so I try to put it in the back of my mind.

claphammama Sun 14-Jul-13 20:55:53

Natalie and everyone who feels awful today - hope you have a better evening thanks

roofio thanks and you will be OK, it's a good productive pain, not like the pain you had in the past. Your body will know it. I too have a high pain threshold and I was OK, despite being induced. I'm also not saying everyone should just get in with it but only that it can be done and it's very important to think about it as a positive productive pain. I also get occasional leg cramps - not very positive and not very productive!

I'm also beginning to experience later pregnancy discomforts... all started very recently, I'm only 25+5 today. All of the sudden I can't find a comfortable position on the sofa, I can't face doing the stairs... and we have 3 floors, DS's bedroom is on the bloody top floor... I wish we lived in a bungalow these days! I wake up countless times for wee and have zero energy... haven't done much today - still in my nighty actually! In and out of the garden all day and it honestly looks as a perfectly decent little black dress as far as neighbours know! :-) I honestly don't know how I survived today without a glass of cold wine...

falcon can't believe you are already 29 weeks!! soon 30...! WOW

PseudoBadger Sun 14-Jul-13 21:03:56

So hot! My feet have swollen every time I've sat in a chair without my feet elevated and I'm fed up with that now.

claphammama Sun 14-Jul-13 21:11:16

how do you feel about the lovely tube journey tomorrow pseudo...? dreading it already...

PseudoBadger Sun 14-Jul-13 22:23:03

Well I don't work on Mondays (or Fridays) so I'm able to delay it for one more day.... In my pregnancy risk assessment it says that I should consider working at home if a heat wave occurs, so I'm pondering what to do this week. I was meant to work at a concert last night but managed to get out of it thank god.
Where do you go in to Clapham?

GTbaby Sun 14-Jul-13 22:50:32

Shit. I just wrote a long ass post which I then lost before posting.

Jist as CBA to write all again.

Express don't worry about being scared. So was I. I wanted an epidural from start I was so scared and wouldn't consider anything else.

Pseudo my feet r ridiculous swollen. Hate it. As others I'm struggling with heat n getting bigger. 7more days at work!

Roofio. Sounds like you've been thro alot. U do not sound dramatic. Just honest.

Sparkeleigh Sun 14-Jul-13 22:56:35

Wow roofio flowers I think you're right, it can't possibly be as bad as that.

Nat I didn't even think of ice, that's a good idea, I just filled it from the outside tap. Sounds like you're having a rough time from heat and general exhaustion, and I know I'm not feeling like eating much in the heat so I'm trying to remember to take vitamins to give me a boost...

Oh, forgot to mention, my mum says its fun to take a bath and put a rubber duck on your bump and watch the baby kick it off grin currently filling the bath to see if baby will cooperate!

Natalieand Sun 14-Jul-13 23:18:48

Went to bed and dh came up to see if I was ok and I had a little hormonal cry he was as supportive as u can expect off of a bloke.... Lol I feel better just for crying I guess he says he's gunna give me a back rub tommorow but we shall see... Then pregnancy cravings kicked in and I've just demolished a cheese and pickle sandwich mmm it was delish!

Hope every one manages to get some sleep tonight it is rediculously humid down here on the south coast of the UK no breeze at all xx

Wish u posted that about the duck earlier sparkleigh bump has been no. Stop wriggling and jiggling today he even done some kicks for dh to feel which is rare he usually stops moving whenever a hand approached my bump lol

Night everyone xx

JellyCurls Mon 15-Jul-13 00:40:26

How can I get DH to stop bloody snoring? He was on his back so I nudged him he rolled onto his side and he started snoring even louder.

Sorry you all struggling with heat issues, we have a nice breeze in Scotland so cooling the house down perfectly for sleep (if only DH would shut up)

Eugh neither me nor husband got much sleep at all.

Put some DVDs on amazon last night to clear clutter and make a few pennies and 6 of them sold in minutes. Pleasant surprise, that makes room and money for a few baby grows!

claphammama Mon 15-Jul-13 07:48:05

I go to Tottenham Court Road on Northern Line pseudo. From Clapham, so a really busy stretch... going through Waterloo, Leicester Square etc... far from amazing and usually struggle to get on. And now tourists and European school trips add to this havoc. Lucky you not working today!

Mrs O forgot to answer last night - I think this web cam he read about has sound too... anyway, it's not going to happen. Far too weird to know his mum might be watching every time I enter the room...! and it violates my baby's privacy :-)

OK better get on with the day... hope everyone had some decent sleep (sorry orange about your sleepless night!)

And I also worry about my snoring DP... I wear ear plugs every night so it's not a problem now but obviously can't with a little baby... and for a long time. I expect he will be banned to the guest room for a year...

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 07:59:20

Don't even start me on snoring dh's!!!

clapham I have visions of myself jumping out the shower going into the nursery to attend to an upset baby and the towel dropping down or adjusting itself in-appropriately whilst on cam to MIL haha she may as well just install CCTV right? Poor u xxx

Morning all - hope everyone is ok and hasn't melted. Am I the only one regretting considering baby's school starting age, and not how pregnant I would be in summer? Had crappy nights sleep, so hot, and thirsty - was pretty much awake every hour to either have a drink, or have a wee because I had a drink sad.

Need to get motivated today to start sorting out Mat leave handover, so I can chill out for the last few weeks. 29 weeks today, and 6 weeks left at work grin.

Hope everyone has a nice day - so wish I was enjoying this weather instead of looking at the forecast and wanting to cry...

PseudoBadger Mon 15-Jul-13 08:57:28

Sounds like we do similar journeys but opposite clapham as I come in from Woodside Park and either go to Embankment and then district line to St James park, or if I'm feeling suicidal change at Euston to the Victoria line to Victoria. I only do that if I can be at Euston by 7 though as otherwise it's just too mental.

PseudoBadger Mon 15-Jul-13 08:59:14

I was thinking the same this morning Bowl about how that benefit is outweighed by the heat! But I think we are unlucky that it's a great summer as its very out of the ordinary right now isn't it? I hate that I'm wishing the summer away when I could be enjoying it!

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 09:07:57

I find it interesting u like about the school year thing cos I would prefer to have had a baby a little earlier as it means a whole extra year before they start proper school for the sake of a few weeks.

I'm not melting yet but I got up 10 mins earlier so I didn't have to rush around as much and that seems to have helped x

Morning all, sorry there are lots of people feeling rubbish. flowers to you all. I am definitely feeling like a wind up toy that needs winding up- if I get any slower I will be in reverse. I'm now off work for 6 weeks so back the day after bank holiday weekend for a couple of weeks. Sorry to those of you still suffering with commuting and work, the timing for me in relation to school holidays is amazing so I don't feel like I'm in any position to moan about pregnancy in the summer! Those of you with other DCs to look after in the heat- I don't know if I could!

A friend has let me borrow her baby name book (40,001 names!) so hopefully we can find a girls name by October... Up to D with no luck so far. Today is tidy up day as I've been putting everything off until the holidays. DP is at work for another week and I'm determined to get the place in a decoratable condition so he has no excuse not to start painting next week grin

Baby seems to have set itself into a routine where it wakes up at 11pm each night. DP decided to start tapping my belly last night (playing with the baby apparently) and jumped when it kicked back. Kicks are getting quite strong now, one made me say ouch this morning. What was I saying about pain thresholds again...!

Can't remember who mentioned pregnancy massages in Dulwich, I meant to say before that I can recommend Neroli in Honor Oak Park if that's not too far. £45 for back neck and shoulders on the special bump hole bed sounds good. DM and I (pre-preg) have both been there and they're lovely.

Natalie it's because of the studies that show that the autumn babies tend to do better academically. But I think it's more of a factor during the first few years of school and I'm sure there are many anecdotal stories of people who were born in the summer and are academically successful. Saying that, a teacher I work with wanted hers in the summer so she didn't have to pay an extra year of full time childcare!

Haylebop12 Mon 15-Jul-13 10:04:55

Morning ladies.

Hope everyone has enjoyed their weekend as much as possible. Agreed its too hot. I never thought that being pg over summer would be so hard. I've preferred to be in work where there is air conditi

Haylebop12 Mon 15-Jul-13 10:12:58

Morning ladies.

Hope everyone has enjoyed their weekend as much as possible. Agreed its too hot. Sorry to veryone thats feeling rubbish. i think your definitely allowed to moan! I never thought that being pg over summer would be so hard. I've preferred to be in work where there is air conditioning. Three days off now so lots of housework to catch up on. Trying so hard to keep on top of it all as we go on holiday a week on say and I want it all lovely to come back to :-)

27+1 today grin and 6 weeks left to work.

Re- monitors. We had a video one with dd, used it about 5 times slas it never held charge and our house isn't big enough for us not to hear. So, this time were going to wait until baby is here before we decide if we need one. Same with thermometer. We never really used it.

clapham CCTV, no chance... I think video calling is enough! At least you can pick and choose your times ha!

Agreed on labour pain, there's an end. With very contraction your getting closer to meeting your baby. I had dd with has and air and although yea it was painful and awful, the moment she was placed in my arms it all went away. I'm a bit of a trooper and don't really
Complain or moan, just get on with it but I would definitely go for n epidural if I felt I wasn't coping. Everyone is different.

Haylebop12 Mon 15-Jul-13 10:16:15

feminist I'm 29th August! Saying that though I think I was quite mature for my age and back then they had jan/Easter intakes so I didn't start in the September. But, anecdotal as it might be I didn't really struggle as school, just lazy, don't think that has much to do with being Born late august though!

grin Hayle no I don't think laziness is a characteristic of summer babies, just most teenagers in my experience! To be honest, I really cant see how it would make a difference after the first year or so. In reception a year is a long time so I can imagine some older kids being at an advantage- but then you could argue that the young ones get stretched more as they want to keep up with the others.

Disclaimer: I did not plan my baby around the school year, was originally due in August before MC!

CCTV thing sounds scary. Would be a bit too much like the BB house?! I would prob walk in wearing just my undies without thinking...

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 10:39:23

Both my babies will be autumn babies as dd is nov 1st and this one is obv due October, maybe I'm destined to have intelligent children :-) lol

cazboldy Mon 15-Jul-13 11:16:11

28 weeks today smile and seeing the mw this afternoon - only appt I could get was 4.10, so hope she won't mind me taking the 2 youngest terrors with me!

Labour pain IMO is not comparable to any other kind of pain - it's so different. I think the key to it is just to accept it's gonna hurt, but know it will end, and each contraction is one less!

When i had my ds1 my mum had (rather helpfullyhmm) terrified me! Then in hosp the woman next door was screaming.........

she was still screaming after ds was born, and I actually said "is that it?" as I had convinced myself it would practically be a near death experience or something grin

That said, each and every labour is different, and it is weird how you do forget, but then when you feel that first major contraction the next time, it hits you, and you think "Oh no, I don't want to do this again!!

I think I am the kind who just gets on with it, though I was terrified at the thought of having an epidural - and would need to be seriously in agony before i would let anyone near me with one of those needles grin
and likewise, the only thing that ever worries me hugely when I'm pg would be if I needed a caesarean! Why anyone who didn't medically need one would choose one is beyond me - the thought scares me to death!!!!

though, not wanting to offend anyone, we are all different, and cope with things differently, so each to their own! I am not one of those women who sees childbirth as some kind of ritual you have to go through to make you a "real woman" - It's just a necessary evil!

cuillereasoupe Mon 15-Jul-13 11:19:19

Just back from my glucose test. God it was revolting, and so hot and airless in the waiting room I had to go and have a little lie down. Arse now firmly back on sofa for as long as possible.

claphammama Mon 15-Jul-13 11:21:29

I don't really believe in this summer babies / autumn babies thing... I think there are so many other factors at play... I'm a July baby and did very well academically, DP is 3rd September and, given the choice, his parents sent him to school a year earlier (it was an option back then), so he was a whole year younger than everyone else, and DS is an August baby and just finishing his reception year, and doing really well... the guy sitting next to me in the office is born on 29th July and has a PhD from Oxford... On the other had, my long term ex was born on 24th October and was far from academically brilliant... So I struggle to see any evidence to be honest. The only thing we noticed with DS is that he was emotionally much younger than some other older children. So he behaved like a baby in the first two terms and struggled to wait for his turn, focus on things for a longer period of time, or sit still when needed! This changed in the summer term though and he acts much more grown up now. Saying this - I think he has an amazing teacher and I'm sure it means a lot. And now I will have an October baby - so the opposite! I wonder how different it will be with this one.

pseudo we are opposite sides of London :-) And don't envy your commute either - Euston is a nightmare!

feminist so jealous envy in a nice way grin How lovely to be off right now! And my baby is also an 11pm baby - always wakes up and is most active at this hour! Good luck going through your baby names book!

Wickedgirl Mon 15-Jul-13 11:22:51

I already have 2 autumn children (October and November). My 3rd is an April birthday as I tried to spread his out a bit from everyone else's. this baby was a surprise so we didn't get to "decide" when to have it.

My nights are up for a wee, have some gaviscon and a drink and repeat hourly all night. Grrrrr. I am so tired but the SPD means that I can't get comfortable at night anyway so I am just getting more and more tired and grumpy.

Pain in labour is painful but its a "positive pain" and each contraction brings you closer to meeting your new little person. I am nervous about labour (who isn't?) but the baby at the end makes it all worthwhile. In my last births, I had gas and air. This time, I think I might try a water birth. The only thing that puts me off is having "gunk" floating in the water.

It will be so lovely once the babies all start arriving......I guess the twins will be first?

claphammama Mon 15-Jul-13 11:23:36

crosspost - good luck with your MW appointment caz!

Has anyone seen legally lately - hope her and the twins are fine!

I'm not sure how much I believe it either Clapham - I'm a late May birthday, and did much better at school than my November and Jan sisters. But then I think most of the research suggests it's a maturity thing - ie child starts much younger than everyone else, lacks confidence, which can set a precedent for the coming years at school. But frankly there are so many other things to worry about as a parent this ranks quite low for me.

Completely forgot I have a Active Birth Class tomorrow - am not doing a full ante-natal class this time, but thought I'd have a little 'refresher'.

I am really quite nervous about the birth as had a pretty dreadful time last with DS. Am just doing my 'ignore it, it will be fine' head in sand defiance at the moment, but will see how I get on as the time gets closer. I'm actually most nervous about what to do with DS when it all kicks off - we have a friend on standby, and other less close friends as backup, but not 100% comfortable.


I was also wondering where legally was hope she and babs are well.
Been on the the phone to tax credits but i had no idea of all are in and outs last year will have to call again confused Or wait till DH comes back without baby brain to help!!

feeling rubbish atm its too humid and everything is stressing me out!

Just searched bowlfull and anyone else wondering she is on the short cervix club in antenatal threads she posted yesterday so at least we know all is well smile

favellio Mon 15-Jul-13 13:07:16

Hi everyone, just caught up after a busy weekend. Dear god this heat is immense when you're pregnant. I literally feel like I'm melting hmm
Made a trip to Kiddicare at Lakeside retail park yesterday and came out £700 lighter but that was because we bought our pram/buggy (maxi-cosi Elea in purple), foot muff, parasol, car seat, car seat base, Gro Egg and some toys. Nice to know we're pretty much sorted now. I finally feel organised lol grin

roofio87 Mon 15-Jul-13 13:21:09

just looked in the mirror and I officially have an outy belly button!!!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 15-Jul-13 14:08:12

Congrats on the outy belly button roofio and hope your midwife appt goes well Caz

Well, DD does have impetigo (only a tiny patch on the back of her leg) but it means she's now off school until Wednesday. Our doctor was happy for her to go back in tomorrow provided the sore patch was completely covered (it's only about the size of a 10p), but school are having none of it.

Sod's law that school has special end-of-year events planned for today and tomorrow (picnic, play, leavers assembly) that DD will miss out on. Feeling rather sorry for her and for myself as now my plans are shot to pieces too. I was so hoping to make the most of my last 'child-free' week before the summer holidays.

Dog is also under the weather and threw-up this morning.

We certainly weren't planning it that way (and after 1 miscarriage and 1 chemical pregnancy a take-home baby would be a blessing any time of year) but I am pleased to be having an autumn baby as far as schooling goes. I know there are lots of other important factors at play but DD was emotionally much readier for school at nearly 5 than she would have been at just turned 4.

Right, I'd better go and stick some washing on..

roofio87 Mon 15-Jul-13 14:13:04

Damn it Bridget I'm on my way to work and that just reminded me that my washing is still in the machine!!!

HotSoupDumpling Mon 15-Jul-13 14:18:31

Congratulations roofio! I was so scared about getting an outie that I have decided to celebrate it when it happens, and treat myself. So far it's half out and half in, so on average I've decided it's flat.

favellio - I'm jealous! We have lots of bits and pieces (all sweetly bought for us by relatives...although it means I can't do what I like to do and spend hours on the internet researching the best brands etc) so about a 10 different weaning spoons (!?) but no actual furniture e.g. cribs, car seats, pushchair etc.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 15-Jul-13 14:24:37

Sorry for the reminder roofio grin at least you know you've got some more good drying weather ahead.

Oh, could really do with some advice from you lovely ladies - do you think it would be bonkers to book another driving test at about 36/37 weeks pregnant?

It's the earliest I can get another test slot and thought it wasn't really viable (not fitting comfortably behind the wheel etc) but then a mum at the school gates said I was being silly and she was driving right up until she gave birth.

Do you want to do it Bridget, or asking because this mum suggested you were being silly? Frankly I would not put myself under the pressure of preparing for and sitting a test at 37 weeks - when you might be feeling fine and really up for it, but probably will be pleased if you can simply get your shoes on in the morning smile

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 16:07:24

I would do it bridget besides look at it like this if it gets closer to the date and u don't feel up to it If your area is like mine u can re schedule it xx

roofio87 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:10:18

just be sure you can cancel/re arrange if u need to. my friend broke her collar bone 2 days before her test and they wouldn't give her her money back!!!

textbook Mon 15-Jul-13 16:15:31

Re Summer/Autumn born babies - my dd was born on 26 August (and was 3 weeks early too) so started Reception when she was 4yrs and about 8 days. She absolutely loved it, was totally ready for school, and is now doing very well and performing above expected levels at the end of Year 1 in pretty much everything. I really think it depends on the child.

I'm very interested to see how this (hopefully) Autumn girl compares, as she will be nearly a whole year older when she starts school.

Also - it's bloody hot shock

My preggo massage at Champneys today was INCREDIBLE. I recommend you all book one immediately grin

textbook Mon 15-Jul-13 16:17:18

Bridget - I think it depends on how much the thought of the test stresses you out. If it will be making you anxious, then leave it. No point in adding extra stress when you're nearly at term.

Wickedgirl Mon 15-Jul-13 17:04:59

bridget......... The baby could be here at 37 weeks. I think that's leaving it too close to your due date. What does your instructor think? Are there no other test centres close by that could offer you a better date?

cazboldy Mon 15-Jul-13 17:38:27

Mw was all good - had a student mw there who was a bit worried about taking bloods in front of the dc, but was very lovely.

Measured 28.5 cms, gtt back all fine, BP fine, slight glucose in urine, but she said not to worry as gtt had been fine.

all looking good, and heard the heartbeat again smile, bloods taken, and see her again at 34 wks.

PseudoBadger Mon 15-Jul-13 18:12:13

I would not Bridget personally, by 37 weeks with DS I was going to the hospital every day for my BP to be monitored, and he was with us at 38 weeks exactly.

Wickedgirl Mon 15-Jul-13 18:19:51

Cazboldy......was it worth the wait? It's silly how long the gap is between appointments isn't it? My last was at 16 weeks and I have my 28 week check tomorrow. I'm rather excited. grin

Feeling really down today house is a tip im a mess too feel hot sweaty and tired although i slept okish last night and was only up twice.
I am so upset as I think i will have to rehome one of my dogs she is only 10 months but she is a constant barker at any little noise and frequently wakes us and DS up not sure i will cope one wee one is here with her too sad I should not have took her on but I had no idea i would be pregnant and i kid of hoped she would get better with the noise (I live in a downstairs garden flat)
I have had to rehome dogs in the past and i hoped i would not ever have to do it again but i really don't have the time to train her out of it
I give up sad

tuckingfits Mon 15-Jul-13 18:37:15

hi everyone smile. I've been reading but not contributing I'm afraid as I have been a combination of extremely moody/bad tempered - Thursday night - Saturday morning & feeling rubbish/ill/lethargic since then.

If I had had a machete on Friday I think I would happily have decapitated my partner,not that he did anything particularly heinous,rather that he didn't do anything while I was at work Thursday night,so I came home to a messy kitchen,washing needing to be done,blah blah blah.

Anyway,fortunately I couldn't lay my hands on any large & sharp objects so he is still in one piece. Lucky for him.

Since then,I have just had no energy (might have had a tummy bug that's been doing the rounds locally,really wasn't a very happy tummy on Saturday).

Dp is out collecting our nursery furniture as we speak. It is second hand but in great condition & a bargain I found on a local fb buy & sell group. £95 for cot bed with large drawer underneath,chest of drawers with a changing unit bit on top & a three quarter height wardrobe. I am so excited! It is going to have to live in my parents' garage for a little while as the bedroom hasn't been built yet... They are away (I still have their dog...) and hopefully our room will be sorted before they need the car space in use again. Or if not we have a load of kingspan to sell that should free up some room in our own house...

I can hear the van coming up the driveway,so I'll go & drool over my new furniture. Perhaps be back later if I can summon the energy. smile

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 15-Jul-13 19:27:53

Oh Falcon sweetheart, sorry to hear you feel so down flowers The dog situation sounds really, really difficult - I can totally understand the worry and stress about how you'll cope once baby is here too.

I wish I had some wise words but I find dog ownership hard work too sad

Don't feel bad about the messy house - I think there are pregnant women up and down the country struggling to keep on top of things in this heat.

Glad all went well caz and thank you for all the driving test opinions - I'm still very torn over what to do..

pinkbuttons Mon 15-Jul-13 19:28:22

Also been keeping up but not posting, feeling ridiculously lethargic in this weather and all of my energy is spent on entertaining DS.
Glad midwife appt went well caz and that you got the all clear on your GTT.
Exciting about furniture tucking but sorry youve been feeling ill especially with tge weather how it is.
Also sorry to hear about your dog falcon but am sure youll be able to find somewhere lovely for her to go to with someone who is able to train her and give her the attention she needs, is so difficult but it sounds like your doing whats best for you as a family and her.
Nothing exciting to report here, just ticking along and being hot. also have ridiculous tan lines thanks to sensitive pregnancy skin. might have to try and squeeze myself into a bikini just to get rid of them.

pinkbuttons Mon 15-Jul-13 19:29:52

Also bridget I am planning on booking my driving test for very close to due date too. im able to reschedule on my area if I give them a certain amounts notice though so think if Im struggling will just do that. may be worth checking firstsmile

Read everything then made dinner so forgotton who said what, sorry!

Glad to hear legally is ok, I have been thinking of her too.

Thanks for the massage recommendation in dulwich. I have booked "the dulwich touch" but will keep in in mind.

Re summer born babies, the government did some research about 6 years ago that said even up to GCSE it makes a difference, and teaching year 1/reception children for the last 6 years I definitely notice a difference in children's levels at this age both academically, maturity/attention levels and physically in PE/handwriting etc. A year's difference is a big chunk of their life at such a young age. However I agree it isn't good for predicting how well a particular individual will do and there will always be exceptions. It is just a general trend and one of a few factors that impact on performance. Clapham I too am 30th July baby but was always top of my class and have a first from Oxford (really hope that doesnt sound like I am boasting, I deleted it but then remembered it will be on my Facebook page anyway). We planned to start trying for an autumn baby but knew it might not happen straight away and would have been happy with whatever we got!

Bridget I agree, I would only book it if you can cancel and get a refund. How important is it to you that you can drive before baby comes? Could you get by without?

Glad today's appointments went ok.

JellyCurls Mon 15-Jul-13 19:47:33

Sorry about my early morning / late night post about DH snoring. Got so bad that ended up sleeping on sofa last night so have been a tired grump all day. Trying to pack for our holidays on saturday now that dc are sleeping but have zero energy. If I hadn't laid clothes all over my bed I would be leaving it for another day.

Now to decide a relaxing bath not at all like Bridget's baths or suitcase packing......

JellyCurls Mon 15-Jul-13 19:52:32

School debate is different in Scotland and we try avoid winter babies but dd (jan baby) started school the youngest in her class and finished top in P1 and this year, P2, got class prize for most progress in all subject areas so I don't think it has a huge academic influence. She is emotionally a lot younger than her peer group though and tired easier at the start, partly due to her having SN but mainly because she was a year younger than some of the kids.

Tarlia Mon 15-Jul-13 20:09:11

I've caught you all again, sorry some pants days with bp and headaches. However great scan today, the computer says baby expected to weigh 1.1kg, so that's fab as they can be smaller with high bp etc. discussed CS and epidurals etc as last labour was out of control (not me I was perfectly calm, coping and ignoring everyone with a lovely cold wet cloth on my eyes) but the staff were running in and out.

Here's a test of pain threshold - lean against the wall and crouch to sitting on a chair height and see how long you can do it, used breathing to get through it. My antenatal woman swore that those who could go the longest would cope better, however I have up first and was the only one who coped with a drug free labour haha. Think my joint hyper mobility helped, but it's really not an ouch i feel so poorly, my legs dropping off sort of pain, it's a steady pain that gets more intense the closer you are to meeting that gorgeous new person and is forgotten in an instant. You CAN all do it, use which ever means you have to, but really, you'll be fine!

Marathon on labour, sorry I still have more to say :P

Re washing baby stuff, I've started and I'd suggest others do too. So long as you have draws or cupboard to palace it into it'll still be lovely.

Uml I personally wouldn't use the royal baby name, but saying that after naming my son heard a very famous singer used the same. Typically they've recently had second and have used another name I like!! I still love my sons name, and nobody has even mentioned the person. I think this is more likely if its not a mainstream name - call him Apple or Pixie etc then might be different.

Roo we had to change nappy at each feed during night of he would leak. Marathon pee'er.

Ana we only have a shower too. DS still fits in his Flexibath at 2.4, but from 1.5 (standing steadily so could be put down) has enjoyed a shower with one of us, now he often goes in alone too (obv us in the room).

Nursing bras - ladies with big boobs, fear not www.nursingbra-shop.co.uk/ sells underwired which are fine so long as properly fitting (no wire on breast tissue) and in my opinion much better than having a poor supporting non wire. I used wires throughout pregnancy and breastfed DS (with wire bras) for 2.3 years.

Phew, hope you are still awake!!

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 15-Jul-13 20:11:41

I'd do your test bridget if you don't think it'll stress you out. You will fit behind the wheel, don't worry about that! I drove right up to having ds at 36 weeks. Maybe make sure you can cancel it though as others have said.
Ordered a chest of drawers for bump today so that's all the furniture bought now as we've least got a changing table, the cot has arrived and they will share the wardrobe which is in ds' room. Slowly getting there!

Tarlia Mon 15-Jul-13 20:12:27

falcon sorry to hear about your noisy dog sad

Jelly you crazy lady ! Def boot DH to the sofa tonight, you need comfortable rest. My DP was the same Friday night, I don't think either of us got much sleep as I spent the night poking him and rolling him about the bed haha. Needless to say, nothing worked!

Oh yes falcon, sorry to hear you might have to give up the dog. Did you get it from a rescue centre?

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 15-Jul-13 20:35:59

sad sorry about our dog falcon, I did read though that noises babies hear in utero won't disturb them when they are born. I don't know how true it is though. Our dog isn't too noisy but he does bark loudly when DH comes home, drives me insane but it never wakes ds, you might be ok?
I find having a dog hard work but DH took him to work with him today and I missed him confused

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 15-Jul-13 20:36:29

Our dog?! Your dog obvs!

Thanks everyone going to discuss it with DH tonight. I have 2 dogs an older jrt that barks at postman etc and daisy who i got as a rescue but at 12 weeks who is a smooth collie the jrt will stop barking but she does not she cant help herself i know its just because she wants to protect us she is very loving sad

Looking at stupidly expensive baby items in harrods to cheer me up lol not that i could afford it but I might buy one expensive keepsake hand me down item!

PseudoBadger Mon 15-Jul-13 21:09:49

Falcon my youngest dog is a terrible barker, I mean really really bad. He's a collie too. It's part an attention seeking thing, part being scared (of DS, noises and life in general). DS heard him barking in the womb and has heard him constantly for the 2 and a half years since! It has never ever phased him, he has been startled awake about 5 times over his whole life and 2 of those have been firework related.
He pisses me off no end but I couldn't rehome him as I love him and he loves us so much. This isn't meant to make you feel bad, i'm just trying to reassure you that your baby is unlikely to be worried by the noise. Feel free to pm me if you want to chat x

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 21:12:24

Sorry to hear about your dog falcon hopefully u can work something out or find her a perfect new home xx

Sorry you are struggling too falcon do u think being over weight contributes to it? Like the lethargy and over heating-ness as being 'obese' myself I often wonder if it contributes too how much we struggle in pregnancy but I've never done pregnancy in a skinny body so I can't compare lol

claphammama Mon 15-Jul-13 21:13:46

sorry about your dog falcon - this must be so upsetting... biscuit

jelly agree with tarlia - definitely DH on the sofa tonight! I kick and poke but it rarely helps. As mentioned before, I survive with ear plugs which is OK now that DS is almost 5. If anything, he comes to our bed in the night or DP is usually first to wake up if DS (very very rarely) calls in the night. hehe. Really worried about the next year though when I can't wear them... I see I'm not the only one with this problem. I'm definitely going to ban red wine (the main culprit). And he needs to lose weight. Sigh

tucking you really made me laugh with your post! I had a similar argument with DP about a week ago and also wanted to chop off his head (or something else...) I think most of us feel moody or lethargic with this heat. Heat has definitely killed this thread a bit.

Can't remember who suggested the pain threshold test. Is this the position you meant? ChairPose My least favourite (read: dreaded) yoga position...

bridget don't think I would have a test so close to due date... I was really swollen the last month of my pregnancy. Water retention etc...

Glad legally is OK. I've also been thinking about her a lot, wandering how she is getting. I think twins will be first! And her due date is end Sept so she was going to be one of the first ones anyway

Thanks psuedo The insight does help, She does have attention issues she will poo even though she has just been out and things if she is not getting as much attention as she needs/wants she also eats the wallpaper I may just not have the time to give her the life she deserves but I adore her as does DS and DH, complicated one.

natalie I was overweight last time too but i can't think it helps with this heat at all I am going to make a real effort to try and not get pregnant whilst in the middle of losing weight next time!!

Really thank you for all your support everyone I would be lost without this thread xxxx

Natalieand Mon 15-Jul-13 21:32:37

falcon with dd we were ttc for a year but dh has sperm issues so I thought I would try slim fast diet too give us a head start on ttc and fell preggo straight away and this time we had been ttc and so I thought ill try slim fast again see if that helps like last time and fell pregnant within the first 2 weeks of being on it, must be something in the milkshakes lol

Smitten1981 Mon 15-Jul-13 21:41:42

I've got a 10 month old Bichon/Shih Tzu cross and she has done all of the above. She's dug holes in the kitchen wall, pulled the paper off, she runs upstairs and poos in DH's office whenever she gets a chance and she barks manically whenever anyone walks past the house. We're waiting for her to grow out of the wall scratching and we'll patch it up when she stops. It's not a big deal.

I'm confident she will grow out of this though, she's only a baby still. She is a pain in the arse sometimes but she is also very loving and I put her barking down to her trying to protect us and her house from strangers. I could never part with her and I'm confident the baby will be used to hearing her bark by the time he is here. I could never get rid of her, she's my first baby, it would break my heart.

I think that the baby will love her as much as we do and look forward to them being best buddies when he's older.

Are you sure it's not something that your puppy will grow out of? They tend to get less enthusiastic as they grow out of the young dog stage and stop with the chewing and yapping. Of course if you really can't cope then finding a new home might be more suitable, but I'd wait and see if it stops as they get a bit older.

We had been trying since I had Ds so 4 years with a few losses it never occurred to me i would fall pregnant before i got to a sensible weight and fixed my thyroid iron issue but i did so I have to live with my body as it is for now.

smitten by no means am I heartless just to see it as "getting rid" I have worked in rescue for a few years now this is why I have her and my older dog for that matter. Dogs do grow out of there issues as time goes on if the get the right training and attention they require to do so, this is where i feel i might not be the right person to give her those things I struggle as it is without the mix of a new baby. See above falling pregnant was certainly not something i could have expected so i thought i would have the time needed unfortunately I find myself falling short.

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 01:34:44

Dogs are tricky. falcon you have my sympathy. We have a young Springer who we got as a pup last April,I was able to spend time every day training him while William napped. Fast forward to this summer & we have my parents' paranoid android dog staying with us while they bugger off sailing for weeks at a time. He is having some behavioural issues around barking incessantly when left without a human in sight. He has also peed randomly in my house a few times in the last month. I'm not impressed.

Anyway,my point is that if this were last summer I would have the time & energy to devote to trying to sort him out. As it is,I am struggling with him. I have a toddler,a young dog,a part time job,a small business I am trying to expand a bit,a house in a permanent state of disrepair/building project etc & I don't know how the heck to fit in trying to sort Rufus out as well!

I'm sorry you fond yourself with a difficult decision to make. I will agree with others who have said that babies become used to/immune to noises they hear regularly whilst in the womb. I am sure i have read this. It doesn't help you with your worries about training it out of her,but perhaps it might help put your mind at rest that her barking might not disturb your little baby & that once you get into a new routine after your baby arrives,you might be able to find the time to help her with whatever the issue is that causes her to bark.

Very very long & rambling & probably pointless but i hope something in here makes you feel better! My excuse is that i have just finished a sack of ironing for a customer. God knows what time it is...

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 01:59:56

Whilst I'm at it,banging on randomly that is,I just wanted to say that I have bought a new cot bed mattress for the second hand cot bed. It was originally £119,I found it reduced to £45 on a website called www.4babyonline.com or co.uk can't remember sorry! It is a better "model" than the original one I was looking at,but at that huge a saving I thought it was a great idea! DS's mattress was as high a standard as we could afford at the time too,but this bargain has eclipsed it! I'm really pleased with how much I have managed to save on things we have had to buy this time.

Got an isofix base for our existing group 0+ car seat,from eBay for £82 instead of £125 new. Have bought a whole bedroom furniture suite for as much as I had expected to have to pay for a second hand cot bed & chest of drawers if we were lucky. I haven't bought our baby girl any new clothes yet. I have plenty of neutral stuff from William for the first few months & have been promised lots of loans of baby girl clothes. I want to buy something pretty & girly for bringing her home - like a keepsake for her. I'm actually itching to go baby clothes shopping,now I've mentioned it.

I still don't feel her regularly. Sometimes she's quite active,most of the time she's not. I am trying to think that this means she will be a more chilled out baby than DS was (non sleeper pretty much from birth to about 16/17 months). He was constantly on the move inside me,booting me frequently & with such force that it often room my breath away. I'm sure i could feel which bit was his bum/head at this stage. No idea at all this time. Don't know if this is because i just have less time to concentrate on being pregnant this time or just that she is less active than my son was.

Have midwife appt on Thursday - 28 week one. I will see what she says. I think i am over cautious at the moment because a woman i have known since we were little girls,gave birth to a stillborn daughter two weeks ago. It has shaken me quite a lot & i can barely begin to imagine how horrendously devastating it is for her. I know her terrible time doesn't have any bearing on my pregnancy,but it's put the shits up me a bit. Roll on Thursday...

PseudoBadger Tue 16-Jul-13 06:38:14

Morning everyone! Well to try to beat the heat today I walked the dogs at 4.45 and got on the tube at 6.30..... I wonder when I'll fall asleep at my desk? grin

Natalieand Tue 16-Jul-13 07:57:29

Talking of troublesome pets, dh was up at 6am with the carpet cleaner as the cat had lovingly covered our carpet in diorhea, dd was the one who informed us that 'there was something downstairs' (she means downstairs hall way) lol one of the perks of being pregnant means I had nothing to do with the cleaning up process

Looks as though it may be cooler today as its rather cloudy down here in the south but who knows as its not even 8am yet

Have a lovely day all xx

Warlin Tue 16-Jul-13 08:33:43

Hi All

Haven't had a chance to post for a few days as I was visiting my sister...don't how all you London ladies are sticking the heat...it is seriously hot and ds just couldn't sleep so for once I was glad for it to be a bit cooler at home.

Bridget sorry to hear about your driving test. I would say go for it and you can always cancel if you don't feel up to it or if baby comes early. I did find however that I couldn't really turn very well or be comfortable behind the wheel at that stage. Also I think you'd need to do a good bit of driving before baby comes, otherwise you may not feel confident enough to drive with baby anyway. It def would be easier to get it out of the way though...it there no way you could try another test centre or get a cancellation? There are bound to be loads of cancellations within the next 10 weeks.

Falcon sorry about the dog situation. Must be stressful if he/she is a barker. Do your neighbours complain? What breed have you got? It would be wortk advertising at local vets and asking them for help, rather than just dropping at a rehoming centre as that is stressful for the dog. At 10 months though, he/she should be able to find a new home ok. Alternatively, there are some great dog trainers that come to the house and advise how to cure these things..you can also get those scented collars that release a smell that dogs hate whenever they bark which is supposed to prevent them barking as much.

Is anyone else getting really strong kicks now? Either I've got a footballer to be in there or he is just getting really big and strong! Either way it's a bit disconcerting at times.

I'm also really anxious to hear what the Royal baby will be called. If she has a boy and calls him Edward I think I will cry sad It's the only name we agree on, yet I wouldn't use it if they do. I do think it will be a girl though.

Re washing baby clothes, I might do a few but not going to really stress. I washed everything last time but stopped very quickly and all the presents that were bought went straight on. I never had a problem but guess it's different if they have sensitive skin.

Congrats on the house Umlauf will be nice to get settled before baby arrives.

I want a Boori cotbed as we have one for ds and I love it. They aren't cheap though so I had a bit an ex display on ebay but lost out sad

Hi to everyone I've missed

GTbaby Tue 16-Jul-13 09:11:56

Feeling anxious about growth scan today. I'm sure it will be fine. and I've avoided thinking about it all week. But now it's so close getting knots in my tummy.

Bit distracted to comment on everyone's posts. Sry! Will try later.

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 16-Jul-13 09:22:35

Good luck gt
Just had breakfast outside in the garden, boiling already! Going to be another unproductive day with me and ds in the park I think!
Re movements could you just be too busy to notice them? I definitely think this baby moves less than ds did but that's probably because I'm so much busier than I was last year so less time to notice him/her.

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 09:29:03

Good luck gt. Will be thinking of you & hoping for a good news,phew,all clear type of update.xx

Oh,we have one of those spray collars for problem dog. It's ok but not as effective as I had hoped. However,this dog is older & more set in his ways than your's plus he is a setter so a lot dimmer generally. Certainly worth looking at the collar to see if you think it is worth a go. I'll have a look at ours later to let you know the name.

PseudoBadger Tue 16-Jul-13 09:30:38

Good luck GT xx

tucking - I'm certain I feel less this time as I just don't have the luxury of time to indulge myself in looking for them. Also I have an anterior placenta this time (like so many do on here!)

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 09:35:53

Hi shooting I am considering that I am just busier than last time. But I honestly feel as though she just doesn't move as much as DS did. This could be a blessing as he did prevent much sleep or comfort happening in last weeks of pregnancy & was a very difficult baby. I am sure there'll be nothing "wrong",it's just playing on my mind as unusual after having such a strong & active baby inside last time. Perhaps this one will not climb & launch herself off furniture/windowsills etc. One can only hope!!

GTbaby Tue 16-Jul-13 09:45:32

Men are so stupid. Im at hospital. Waiting room full of pregnant ladies. No seats. You would expect one of the 3 men to offer their seat!
NO. a pregnant women gets upshock shocking.
I have my crutches. You'd think these men have enough sense to think of others. But NO. Poor ladies whose partners they are.

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 09:47:50

Yes low anterior placenta here too. Am sure you're all right & she is moving about fine,it's just that the combo of being busier/different placental position is disguising it.

I have appt for another scan at 32 weeks to see if placenta has moved away from my c section scar. Then I will have to start seriously thinking about how to deliver shock as long as I still have options that is. If it hasn't moved up,I will be stuck with another section. Last one was a crash emergency though so I would hope recovery might be less difficult. I had a pretty horrible time with ds & as such have been booked onto the hospital's hypnobirthing course,which I can't wait for. It is four evenings for three hours each in august & I am really looking forward to it. I want to stay in control this time which didn't happen last time. I hadn't slept on days,the midwife was awful,gas & air sent me doolally - please be aware it's not for everyone,I wasn't & just expected to feel pleasantly pissed! Anyway,the relaxation techniques taught should hopefully help me lots. I don't want to bang on too much as I know these things are different for everyone,just want to try & help at least person to be prepared for things not to go according to their birth plan. I had covered many eventualities in mine,but never really thought that c section would happen to me. Try not to rely too much on your birth plan,I think the more ready you are to roll with the punches,the better.

GTbaby Tue 16-Jul-13 09:48:07

Growth scan all ok. Baby must have been in a bad position.
But is feet down ATM. Should I be worried about this? At what point should they be roughly in correct position?

JellyCurls Tue 16-Jul-13 10:08:06

Tucking, do AMU run hypnobirthing classes? How do I find out about this and how much are they?

GT glad scan went well. Not sure about breech monitoring where you are but here they don't concern themselves till after 34 weeks. DS was transverse till 33 weeks and nobody was concerned at all, this baby lying weird too with nothing to feel above belly button and all kick low down in my lady bits. Still plenty of time for them to turn x

A planned c-section is a much easier recovery tucking so relaxed and you know what to expect.

I think 34 weeks is around the time they think about moving I to final position GT. My baby is still turning somersaults in there. Quite uncomfortable now that she's getting bigger.

I'm finding it really hard to sit comfortably and feel dizzy and breathless unless I'm lying on my side. It puts me off getting out of bed in the morning as when I get up I end up having to lie down on the sofa anyway.

roofio87 Tue 16-Jul-13 10:31:24

GT don't get me started, the other day on the train I was the only one to give up my seat to a woman on crutches, everyone else just kept their heads down. me and this lady then proceeded to discuss how people have no manors very loudly!!

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 10:33:31

Hi jelly yes they are at AMU. As far as I know they are limited to people who have a fear of childbirth/difficult birth previously. They have decided I had PTSD after DS's birth & that's why I got referred - that & the fact that I mentioned that I was looking into buying a dvd/book on it as couldn't afford classes I think.

I have no idea if you fit the criteria but if you wanted to contact AMU direct & ask to speak to a midwife called Donna Burns,I'm sure she would be able to discuss it with you. It is an award winning concept,the two midwives who set it up have won awards (astonishingly enough ;)) and limited in numbers because it is provided free of charge.

MoN thanks for the reassurance - I had such a difficult time last time that I think I'm starting to just panic randomly. Ended up with infection after infection & didn't feel like me for months. However,to hear that an elective makes for a better recovery makes me feel better! Even though I know it's logical that it should do!

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 10:37:01

Great news gt but sorry you didn't get a seat. If I was one of the pregnant women sitting already I would probably have offered you my seat even though I have pgp - I'm not on crutches yet so would have just assumed your need was greater than mine! However if I were there with DP & he didn't take it upon himself to stand up,I would have prompted him to remember his manners. Ridiculous.

cazboldy Tue 16-Jul-13 11:06:41

good point about the gas and air tucking - It makes me sick!

Wicked hope all goes well for you today. I was quite excited too, and now there's another long wait for another 6 weeks until 34 weeks for the next appointment.

Had a lovely phone call this morning. The mw who was my mw with the last 2 saw my mw's case file yesterday when they were in the office and was thrilled that I am pg again - said she has been waiting for it grin
she missed ds3's birth as she wasn't on shift, and was running upstairs as dd2 arrived. She said 3rd time lucky she wants to deliver this one grin

Dc 4 &5 were arguing last night about what the baby will be as the mw said if it's heart beat sounds like a train it's a boy, and a horse a girl - very sweet, bless them smile

We also have a difficult dog Falcon.

She is a JRT - nearly 5 now. Hates all other dogs since getting bitten as a pup, by a random dog - now think she will get in there first iykwim, but had always been alright with our collie, but a few months ago, they decided to have a proper bust up - I yelled, collie stopped but JRT didn't and had to hit her with a broom to get her off shock then had a £200 vet bill for stitches to other dogs leg sad - vet said it may have been because the collie had been recently speyed?!

anyway, we now keep them apart - which can be tricky.

Also, she is fine with my kids, but really wouldn't trust her with anyone elses.

I think the problem is we got her from the local hunt, so she is a proper working terrier with that killing instinct and we just don't do enough of that kind of thing with her. She does go ratting occasionally, and then is no bother, and will just come home and sleep.

What she really needs is a home with a gamekeeper or something - but as soon as I mention she is bad with other dogs, no one is interested. sad

it's a shame, cos she is a sweet little thing really.

cazboldy Tue 16-Jul-13 11:07:24

oh and glad all is well GT some men are arses!

Smitten1981 Tue 16-Jul-13 11:07:37

Jelly I'm doing Hypnobirthing classes, two left to go. To be honest you only need the book and CD if you can't get on a class. The woman just goes over what I've already read in the book in class really.

You can get the book and CD from here:


xuntitledx Tue 16-Jul-13 11:14:44

I am dyingggggg sad

Swollen glands, woolly head, no energy, headache etc and I'm feeling very sorry for myself.

Had to take an actual sick day for the first time in about a year so laying in bed watching TV and drinking lucozade, hoping it'll help!

Booo hoooo

The spray collar sounds like a good idea! She is obedient dog wont run away etc which is much more dangerous she has the basics of training its just Barking and separation she has deep rooted issue with which is no surprise as she was abandoned by the breeder as a pup in an Irish 5 day kill shelter Thus me rehoming her she is a smooth collie and its probably all because her ears are not tipped they stick up which i think is adorable she is adorable I am just scared that she may not get what she needs from me and I wont cope when Willow is here. I think we have decided to cross that bridge when we come to it. She may feel more settled when there is a baby around I suppose i just cant speculate atm. Thanks for all the help and understanding flowers

Back to babies is anyones movements changed I think i still get as many but they are definitely less strong wondering if thats normal for being in my 30th week?

shock at the men Gt rude!! Glad scan went well

Sorry x-post caz That sound very difficult flowers

untitled get well soon hun xxx

roofio87 Tue 16-Jul-13 11:19:32

just back from 28 week mw app. all good. bump measuring bang on 28cm and heard a good little heartbeat. She said he's breech with his back to my front which is why I feel a lot of movement all over the place. didn't do bloods as will be having them with anti d injection at 30 weeks. seeing my mw again at 32 weeks, you do seem to see people lots in ur first pg!!!

claphammama Tue 16-Jul-13 11:20:16

great news gt and yes, I also remember that they are supposed to turn around 32-34 weeks. So you have lots of time for this.

tucking I also have a low anterior placenta and a scan at 32 weeks to check if it's moved... I'm absolutely petrified of C section and I'm such a believer in a natural birth. I know from my last experience that you should be flexible and go with the flow - I was planning a nice water birth but ended up with meconium in waters and being induced. I was so upset when they told me they would need to induce me to speed up the birth that I cried for an hour, but managed to avoid epidural or the dreaded C section. I really hope it moves... I've been reading a lot of online articles and some claim that it moves in 95% of cases, as the uterus grows. I also feel less movements with this one and I think my anterior placenta has a lot to do with it. Some days I feel a lot of strong movements, and some days hardly any. I think it depends what position the baby is in so I don't worry if it's just one day I don't feel much. When is your 32 weeks scan? Mine on 27th August so still a long wait...

And don't even get me started on people and seats on public transport... This morning I was almost pushed under the train by a teenage Italian school trip group on the tube as they were rushing to get on. They pushed everyone aside and then took all the available seats. None of the little bastards would get up for me but, thankfully, someone else did. I gave them a mouthful.

Warlin Tue 16-Jul-13 11:31:22

falcon I def wouldn't worry about the dog wakening the baby....ds1 never ever wakes when our dog barks as he has always been used to it when in the womb. Your collie is so young still and I def think it would be worth a shot at consulting a trainer for ideas. If you can work through it your LO and he will be great friends and grow up together. It makes my heart melt when I watch ds1 and the dog together as he just loves her and she often goes into his room and lies beside the cot when he's there. smile My biggest fear is that dc2 will have an allergy or hate her (which I know is unlikely) but he'd have to just learn to live with it as she's my baby too grin

GT glad growth scan went well. We are having one next Sunday (at 31 weeks)...trying not to think about it at the moment. The baby can turn any time so I wouldn't worry about it being feet down at the moment...maybe if he is still like that at 38 weeks but I think it's normaly for them to get into position around 32- 34 weeks.

Tarlia Tue 16-Jul-13 12:27:31

GT glad scan went well. Echo everyone else, baby is still moving all over at the mo. what's gestimated weight?

Re giving up seats, I went in to be monitored the other week, small waiting room, 2x2seater sofas (and hard chairs) taken up by 1 preg lady(not the preg lady of the others on sofa), a husband, a mother and a sister. Husband gets up to use the mobile, a preg lady walks in, goes for sofa, no free hard chairs, wife tells her that the seat is taken!!! Seriously?? I thought I'd explode. I was glad when this family of four trooped out when called!

I wish we could have a pet, but it's a blessing we didn't before DS as would have had to get rid because of his excema and asthmatic bronchitis. I do wonder if a balcony rabbit would be ok though, guess the problem may come in the winter time- do they need to be inside?

textbook Tue 16-Jul-13 13:06:56

Glad to hear the growth scan went well GT - I have one at 35 weeks (end of Aug) and I'm trying not to stress about it until nearer the time.

Had 28wk appt today, had anti-d (ouch), heard heartbeat, and had GTT results back (all fine). Next appt is at 31wks to see consultant, and hopefully get c-section date!

Oh, and I think we have finally settled on a name for dd2 - Thea. What does everyone think??

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 13:33:49

Tarlia my sister had severe asthma & regular hospitalisation due to bronchitis whilst growing up. We had cats,dogs,hamsters,guinea pigs,a rabbit eventually (although I think he did set her off asthma wise). I'm not saying it's worth attempting to have a pet unless you can try it out by borrowing from someone to see if your son reacts badly,I'm just giving you an anecdotal story that my sister wasn't affected adversely by the pets we had & she would agree that she gained from having animals in her life smile

clapham funny how we are terrified of opposites! Actually I think I am terrified of both options of giving birth but I guess she has to come out one way or another! If it weren't for the trauma last time we might be on number three by now not number two. I have my scan on 15th August & then a consultant appt on 22nd to discuss results. I only hope I'm not left wondering what's going on for that week... I also have to see the labour suite manager again in August as she wants to help.me write my birth plan so that it suits me & is sensible for me & the staff who will deal with me. I was basically ignored the last time & I am not prepared yo have that happen again. I had drips put in that I wasn't told about,various other things too but don't want to scare anyone! I've had pretty close to an apology & have been told that with a more senior staff none of it would have occurred.

falcon the collar we have is called "spray commander". It has a citronella refill. I'm going to investigate & find out if there are other scents available because citronella is not as effective on Rufus as I would hope.

claphammama Tue 16-Jul-13 13:47:25

it is funny tucking! A couple of my friend were absolutely petrified of natural birth, one had a terrible experience with her first 18 hours labour and 10.8lb baby (she is only 5'2'' and size 6... so you get the idea...) that she refused to have a natural labour with DC2 and had such a breakdown that they agreed to do selective CS on the grounds of her mental / emotional wellbeing. And then I also had a couple of friends who, like you, had awful experiences with CSs, infections that lasted for months etc... So I guess everyone is different and scared of different scenarios. I really hope the sonographer will tell me during the scan whether it has moved or not... even if he can't comment on me being able to have natural birth etc, I guess he can at least tell me if it's moved? I'm so anxious, I want to know NOW!!

I love the name Thea textbook - was also on my list before we knew it was a boy :-)

claphammama Tue 16-Jul-13 13:58:50

OMG - I really didn't mean to scare anyone with my post!! I was so preoccupied and engrossed in my exchange of comments with tucking, didn't mean to sound scary! I can testify that, despite being induced, I found birth to be a beautiful and amazing experience. The best thing ever! Honestly xxx

Wickedgirl Tue 16-Jul-13 14:11:46

Back from my 28 week check......all good. For the first time ever, the anti-d didn't hurt at all which was a pleasant surprise.

Next check with be at 34 weeks.

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 14:51:44

Aww clapham I don't think your post is scary. I know I had read & read about birth stories/experiences first time round. I knew things didn't always go to plan & I'm sure the other ladies on here are the same.

I contracted for 18 hours,six of them on syntocinon,didn't dilate past 3cm,thought the registrar doing my epidural was going to paralyse me because of the shooting pains down my legs as she attempted to do it & ended up with crash section.

That might sound scary & it was throughout the labour part but once they decided c section was necessary it was still a bit scary but also a bloody enormous relief that they were finally going to do something proactive with regards to getting my distressed baby out. The operation itself wasn't scary & was the most positive part of my experience,the recovery was difficult because I am bad at not doing anything (housework etc) & my partner had to go back to work after a day or two so there was a lot less help than I could have expected if we could afford for him to take paternity leave. I also ended up with several infections which slowed my recovery.

I appreciate that I probably just sound like a scare merchant today,it's not my intention. I just wished I had been more prepared for the ways things could go. I felt there was a vast amount that my friends who were already mums could have told me but didn't. Like it was some huge conspiracy! But I really wasn't me for some time after the birth so perhaps that's the reason behind that particular paranoia! Can't be that bad since I'm doing it again & can clearly remember my mind boggling at the thought that anyone would choose to go through it all again.

Really sorry if my post upsets or scares anyone. Am in two minds about posting it,but I think I will & just hope I don't get flamed for being a doomsayer...

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 15:17:41

Sorry dudes...

Umlauf Tue 16-Jul-13 15:34:22

Hey everyone, just catching up, lots happens when you log off for a day or two doesn't it?!

Congratulations on your bargains tucking especially the isofix, they are bloody pricey and I think we've been priced out of getting one. That's so sad about your friend's little girl, there are no words :-( It's good to hear your birth story, it's important to keep an open mind about labour I think. Having no idea what to expect is quite comforting for me, at least!

GT sorry none of the blokes gave you a seat, I don't think they think at all do they? Glad your scan went well. I think feet down is fine at this stage, are you feeling kicks low down? Mine are all very low so I suspect the same!

Thea is really pretty textbook I was at uni with a Thea pronounced Taya, would it be pronounced that way or theee-uh?

I'm really sorry to hear of the pet issues as well. It must be very hard to make those decisions.

I'm back in the UK and have been so busy preparing bits. BLIMEY it is hot here, I was hoping for some respite from the heat, but no!

I went to Boots yesterday with no list (stupid!) and got 3 packs of 10 maternity pads, 1 pack of 50 breast pads, lanisoh nipple cream, a medela swing hand pump (reduced!) and 2 packets of pampers newborn nappies. Also some big black knickers in M&S. I know I need loads more so what else should I buy? I haven't a clue about babies!! Do you need to buy the same brand bottles as the pump?!

Other new bits are the Maxicosi Pebble (picked up from FILs) and we used our wedding vouchers in M&S finally to get a new rug for the new place. And then the car broke down and cost us a fortune!! Grr!

Warlin Tue 16-Jul-13 15:46:33

Loving the different fears everyone has! I was induced with my first (as waters broke but no contractions for 24 hours) and I loved it as I'm a control freak.! I wanted to jsut get on with it and am terrified this time that it could happen at any time and take a long time. I was 7 hours from being induced to birth so quite quick for a first baby. I have a total fear of epidurals so def wouldn't want that and I'd be terrified at the thought of a section. Eek! I'm praying for a quick birth at around 37 weeks again grin.

umlauf I would also get some nice comfy (dark coloured) pjs for afterwards....prob a couple of pairs! Blood stains and visitors can get embarrassing! Also think about what you want to wear during. I had bought a maternity gown but ended up just wearing the hospital gown which was just as well as it gets pretty messy. A friend of mine wore one of her husbands' shirts which she keeps as a reminder hmm

Tarlia Tue 16-Jul-13 16:00:04

tucking I agree, there does seem to be a conspiracy. I think those that have the real stories to tell keep them to themselves as there are so many others who like a whinge. My labour was pretty manic and I think had I not been open minded then I would have freaked, but as I said yesterday, I got on with my induction with an open mind and ignored them all with my cold cloth.

Um def get some calpol, nurophen(baby), bonjella (though boots own brand great). Anything like here and they won't give under 2s pain relief :/. There is a nappy cream in a yellow box but I can't for the life of me remember the name - has a heart on too - hopefully someone else will come along and say or remind me to look later. It's a magic cream, apply to nappy rash at bedtime and you can almost be sure it'll be gone by morning.
Dairy milk, marmite etc the weird foods you crave when living abroad that you never do at home.
Mothercare packs of vests - wash fantastically. Here they don't sell at a decent price, good quality in bulk like that.
Happy shopping!

I'm terrified of going into labour because of the risk of rupture. It was agreed that I would have my c-section at 38 weeks to avoid this happening but according to my dates I will be closer to 39 weeks by the time I have my c-section.
I am certain my dates are right as I know when I ovulated and pregnancy test was positive the day before my period was due.

To clarify I think I am due on the 12th October. The hospital have given me a due date of the 17th.

Tarlia Tue 16-Jul-13 16:09:55

MoN how far are you from the hospital if you were to start early? I think in your case, having had so many previous CS and a baby who potentially may need help then if it were to happen you'd be we'll within your rights to call an ambulance. I'm the last person to think this btw as the system is often abused, but def think you should.

cazboldy Tue 16-Jul-13 16:14:17

textbook Thea is my god daughters name - very pretty smile

MoN have you told them that? Have you/they ever been out on your dates before with other pg's?

Wickedgirl Tue 16-Jul-13 16:44:12

tarlia do you mean metanium nappy cream? It is amazing stuff for sore bottoms but can stain clothing

Around 20 mins by car Tarlia but neither of us drive. I've read that in the case of uterine rupture they only have between 10-20 mins in which they can intervene to save the life of the baby and there's the risk of maternal death too.

I've tried telling them and they agree that the scan may be out on the dates but are unwilling to change it. They've said that since I've not gone into labour before c-section date before that it's unlikely to happen this time but surely the weaker the uterus is (as mine will be due to multiple ssections) the higher the chance of early labour.

Every "heart baby" case I've heard of the baby had been born at least 4 weeks early. I don't know if this is just coincidence as I couldn't find any correlation when I googled.

tuckingfits Tue 16-Jul-13 16:53:39

Phew,glad I didn't kill the thread dead!

The best thing any of us can do (those going into labour) is to enter it with an open mind I think. I was devastated also not to be allowed my hoped for water birth due to lack of fluid around baby,I came to terms with that but from that point on,every plan I had had went tits up. Anyway,I really don't think I need to drag on about that. Open mind,stay as relaxed as possible & all will be marvellous!!

textbook I agree Thea is a lovely name. I think it allows her a lot of room personality-wise - it will seem "her" whatever she grows up like. If you see what I mean?

We seem to have narrowed it down to probably being between Merryn,Rebecca or a couple of others. I am rather taken with Thea though... Hmmm. I really love Merryn but can't decide if it is a bit too unusual.

I think the nappy cream being thought of is Metanium. Yellow box,purple writing/heart outline. It is brilliant. umlauf I think you'll want more nappies,pads, etc. I'm not sure on whether you need the bottles to fit the pump but I'd say probably. I breastfed ds,but after 4 weeks ended up expressing for two solid weeks. I used a manual avent pump & avent bottles,but stored it in the freezer in lanisoh breast milk bags (another who was extremely proud of her freezer stash & might have counted it somewhat obsessively to marvel at her milking cow abilities). I'd say probably easiest if you do have the same brand bottle because makes sense to express into a bottle that attaches to the pump.

Really ought to get ready for work. CBA.

Tarlia Tue 16-Jul-13 16:56:55

wicked Yes, Metanium. Um you need to take some of that.

MoN can you print the 4 week early evidence and show them? Ask for second opinion? How long ago did you have L? Perhaps they think you'll be healed enough that you are low risk for that complication? Also, if you were to go into labour and called for help it may be that they'd seen a bleep (doctor) car with ambulance anyway.

claphammama Tue 16-Jul-13 17:01:57

MoN doesn't uterine rapture usually happen during the pushing stage? I didn't think it could happen during early or even later contractions? The initial contractions are not that bad so it should give you 30min to get to the hospital after you feel the first one? I would check though and I would go to the hospital the minute you feel anything!!

tucking haha, I was also so proud of my breastmilk freezer collection! Like it was a stash of gold in my safe!

Clapham with multiple c-sections you don't even need to be in labour at all for it to happen.

I'm going to ask about the risk of premature labour at my next appointment Tarlia just incase there is a link that they've neglected to tell me about.

Meant to add that a rupture is most likely to happen in early labour. I'm going to be panicking at every little twinge as my due date approaches.
I don't want to tell Dp how much this is worrying me as he's a real worried anyway and is already stressed about everything. We've had so much bad luck I feel like I'm just waiting for the next lot to hit us.

roofio87 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:28:15

urgh. as I've said before I'm a youth worker in an evening youth club. I'm at work at the moment but currently in the office upstairs as we had an incident of some young people we don't know coming in trying to start a fight with some of our kids and one of them had a knife on them. generally things like this don't happen, but have been known to on occasion. I only have till the end of next week to do youth club before our work with younger kids starts for the summer. I'm going to have to tell my boss I'm not working at youth club anymore as I don't feel me and baby are 100% safe. I know its the right thing to do I just feel bad as we're so under staffed as it is!! but its a very reasonable request to make considering right??
sorry, just wanted to get that off my chest, i would ring dp but don't want to cry!! Haha

Natalieand Tue 16-Jul-13 19:28:30

Sorry to hear about your worries MoN sounds like them mucking u about with dates is the last thing u need especially with all the extra worries u already have hopefully the consultant will sympathise with u and consider doing the c section a little earlier xx

I'm have a preggo moment and can't actually remember anything else I've written

I was one of the lucky ones with my first labour and everything went as per my birth plan couldn't have asked for more and what I like about my area is u have one midwife care for u for all your appts and then when u are in labour they attend the hospital to deliver the baby and I have the same midwife this time as last time not that I specifically run the hospital and hunted her down when I got BFP or anything lol

Jacket potatoe and beans for dinner and OMG am I excited sad hey lol

Bit TMI but is this hot weather making anyone a little smelly in the downstairs region? Probly just where I'm hot and sweaty but don't think its thrush as I'm not itchy or dis-chargey if that makes sense xxx

Natalieand Tue 16-Jul-13 19:31:21

Sorry roofio cross posted with u, sorry your having such a horrible time at work! That sounds very very scary! I deffo don't think you are being unreasonable by asking not to return to youth club especially as like u say its only one week left of the older children its not like your dropping your boss in it for a long period of time. Xxx

ananikifo Tue 16-Jul-13 20:15:17

Tarlia is this the flexibath you have? I'm just surprised because the dimensions don't look that big. I'm hoping to shower the toddler as well but we'll see what works.

I had the dumbest moment today that I trying to blame on baby brain but I don't know. My new team in my new job (my first day working unsupervised!) was discussing the Apprentice and I could have sworn that I watched the final last week. I was telling them I saw it and the Irish doctor won. The conclusion was I must have fallen asleep and not seen the end properly. blush They were nice but I could have died.

Also my new manager explained how I get a bit more annual leave because of the bank holidays that fall during my mat leave, and I get to carry one week of annual leave into the next year, both of which are great news. It looks liked can stop working the last week of September like I planned, and still have an extra week at the end of my mat leave next year.

Agree roofio that I wouldn't want to be there either. We have an agressive parent at school and I was furious that she was not banned from school property after throwing a chair at a member of staff's head (it missed). I asked for senior leader back up at the door the next day. I also did not go to the door to let children in or out on a day when she had been complaining (loudly and swearing) in the office the night before about me not letting her daughter do PE in unsafe shoes. You need to protect yourself.

Great news for me, our inspection due tomorrow has been cancelled, yay!
We are going to do "cooking" instead, fruit kebabs. I've bought £60 of fruit but drove round three shops over the last hour looking for skewers and nowhere has any, argh. It will probably have to be boring fruit salad instead.

Glad today's scans and appointments went well.

JellyCurls Tue 16-Jul-13 20:36:05

Came home from work early today as i felt rubbish but arrived to a house full. DH knows i came home feeling rubbish but he still away out drinking with his dad and brothers tonight, hmpfh! So I am now sitting on couch with back ache, strong braxton hicks and a baby that thinks its funny to kick me in my lady bits feeling very sorry for myself. I swear he will be a battered DH if he even thinks about snoring tonight.

Sorry for moany me post but need to grump to someone

claphammama Tue 16-Jul-13 20:48:46

jelly mine is also out drinking tonight and my first thought was - drink induced SNORING!!! At his own peril...

roofio sorry to hear about your experience. Must have been quite scary...

ana this is so funny! You must have dreamt it :-)

I'm really struggling with heat today... it's the worst day for me. Is it hotter today than ever or is it just me? I could hardly breathe on the tube, even this morning, and felt so hot that had to have a cold shower as soon as I came home, to cool down. My face feel so hot... Also - rings are off, struggled to put them on today so didn't want to risk it

At least Luther is on tonight so I can watch him and lust after another man when DP is out drinking

I'm sure you're making the right decision roofio.

Natalie not smelly but an finding underwear very uncomfortable in this heat and have taken to going commando blush much to Desperate Dans delight.

textbook Tue 16-Jul-13 21:13:30

Thanks for all the name feedback - tucking how strange, Merryn was on our shortlist too smile we obviously have very similar taste. If you like Thea you should totally use it too - it's a good'un (although so is Merryn). I think they are both lovely. Names are so hard!

Hmm just noticed I have two missed calls from my gp surgery at 7.30 tonight. I am not waiting for any test results and I haven't missed an appointment as far as I know. Want be able to call them back until tomorrow, I wonder what it is about? I wish they had left a message.

Natalieand Tue 16-Jul-13 22:34:25

How frustrating orange. Hopefully be nothing serious to worry about xx

Tarlia Tue 16-Jul-13 23:42:54

ana that's it, but of course from about 9 months they are sat up in it. Hair washing is done with the shower head or cups. Over here a bath tub is very rare, much to my despair so all toddlers shower without a problem.

roo doesn't sound nice. How are you feeling now? Must have been worrying.

orange what a crazy mother :/ Didn't they take any action at all when she threw the chair??? How about cocktail sticks and a couple of foil covered baking potatoes? Make 80s style fruit hedgehogs ;)

textbook and tucking like both Merryn and Thea, both very pretty.

No smells here, Nat. I think you can get thrush without the itch and a watery discharge too, so..

Granny pants are most certainly being worn with delight though, proper up past my belly button size with my pretty new bras. Last time I wore normal undies throughout pregnancy but learned granny pants rock after giving birth, so any excuse.

chickieno1 Wed 17-Jul-13 01:33:17

Hope you're feeling better falcon. Don't have any pets but can imagine its another individual you feel responsible for. I'm sure you'll make the right decision for your family.

Roofio that work situation sounds unsafe for you at the moment. I don't think your boss will blame you for taking care of yourself and little one.

mon try and have all your concerns/questions written down for your next consultant appt. that way they will have to try at least to give you answers or options. Also is there anyone that can go with you to act as another set of ears? I know your dp finds it hard to get time off work?

Textbook Thea is a lovely name. Haven't heard it in a while. Still no name ideas here ..........

Thinking about the heat and underwear situation hadn't considered thrush tarlia but you're right. I'm very sweaty at the moment as its hot and humid here. Bump is rubbing and even thighs rubbing together boo. Using loads of baby powder. How glamourous!

orange could you try and ring gp practice first thing??

jelly and clapham hope the snoring isn't too bad.

Chat tomorrow

tuckingfits Wed 17-Jul-13 02:04:27

textbook I may be confusing you with someone else (very likely) but did you once say you liked Thomas for a boys name? I have a William & before we knew this one is a I,Thomas was a frontrunner. I just seem to remember having similar boys' name taste to someone on this thread too! Hoe funny that we both like Merryn - I have never heard it before,saw it on a thread on here & fell in love with it. Because I have never heard anyone called it in real life I am wondering if people will think I made it up! But I don't want her to be one of 3 or 4 in her school year,just don't want her to be too unusually named either. You're right - names are hard!

roofio sorry to hear of your experience at work. You're not unreasonable I don't think,to want to keep yourselves safe. In my old job when I was expecting my son,I used to have some very unpleasant customers,you don't need the stress of wondering who's carrying what & what might kick off. You're sensible to remove yourself from the situation. I wish I had had the balls at the time to do the same.

jelly & clapham hope your fellas had the decency to not snore and allow you decent sleeps in between loo trips. Mine snores every sodding night. Drinks nearly every night too,a few cans. Does my head in but what can you do? I prefer him having a few cans at home,to him going to the pub & getting stocious. Which happens rarely but is bloody bloody bloody annoying when it does as he is 6'1 & built like a brick sh!t house & therefore not easy to roll when comatose & unresponsive to hissed/shouted warnings to stfu or die. Luckily he doesn't drink to excessive often at all,or he would no doubt be thoroughly dead several times over. Do love him even though I know I don't sound like it very often!

orange I hope you get an answer from gp early doors. Perhaps they need to rearrange your next midwife appointment (if you see her at the surgery...). Fingers crossed for you though that it is nothing important. Pretty inconsiderate of them not to leave a brief message.

MoN I think you & Desperate Dan have had enough bad luck & to-Ing &fro-Ing to do you for this pregnancy. I think you would feel better if you could share your concerns re c section/early labour. Doesn't seem fair that you should have to shoulder all that worry yourself. A worry shared & all that...

tuckingfits Wed 17-Jul-13 02:13:43

Blimey,can you tell I'm tired & should be in bed?! Terrible typos,must really pay more attention or preview before just merrily posting a load of old drivel! Hopefully most of previous post is understandable!

natalie I would consider the thrush possibility but not discount the idea that it could simply be a whiff due to the heat. I know from working in a hot environment on.my feet all the time that my knickers haven't always smelt divine by the end of a weekend night shift in a busy pub/club. the things that are divulged & admitted on this thread,so glamorous!

PseudoBadger Wed 17-Jul-13 02:50:14

Night from hell! 1am - Bloody neighbourhood cats fighting outside over who gets to sit under my car. My dogs go insane and wake DS and the whole street probably and then because it's so hot DS wouldn't go back to sleep for over an hour and wouldn't let me leave his room either.
He finally fell asleep and I can't get back to sleep so I've come downstairs and put the fan on and may have a snack and watch TV. So annoyed sad Oh, and it's 21 degrees outside!

Thanks Tarlia, may well do hedgehogs! I have cocktail sticks.

Such a hot night, hottest so far I think. Really hard to get to sleep. I thought some cool moisturiser would help so I opened a free sample but it was actually body oil which just made me more sweaty. Mistake! What really helped was a pack of frozen peas. Mmm. Had the biggest ever kick when I rested it on my tummy!

The drs don't open until 9 but I will try to call them at playtime. No I don't see midwife there but maybe they want to book whooping cough? Only thing I can think of.

Natalieand Wed 17-Jul-13 07:37:39

Hope they put your mind at rest soon orange

psuedo hope u got some sleep in the end I had a total of 8 toilet trips last night most rediculous amount ever for only 27 weeks especially as I never even had a drink all night!! And i was up 4 times with dd being a little Madame as well as her being awake at 5.45 someone kill me now cos I'm not sure I'm going to survive the day!!

roxvox Wed 17-Jul-13 08:58:33

Morning ladies. I have been around, reading every post and checking out things you're all discussing (have added Metanium and Lanisoh breast pads to my list!) but have not posted for a few days.

I went to a friends birthday party on Saturday night, and on arrival the barmaid handed DH some Presecco and then turned to me and asked if I would like one of their fruit juices. Totally made my evening to be noticed as pregnant! Think I am starting to look it now too.

ananikifo do you know if adding bank holidays to our maternity leave is something we are all entitled to?

tucking I believe that Merryn is a Cornish name. There's a small village down here called St Merryn, and I know a few people with the surname Merryn. Not heard of it as a first name, but I really like it!

I am 29 weeks today. Still only getting up for one wee in the night (but needing to go a lot more during the day), but feeling super tired and I get progressively less mobile throughout the day with my lower back and the pressure on my rib cage.

I hope everyone is coping with the heat!

Wickedgirl Wed 17-Jul-13 09:15:21

Last night was definitely too hot. I am really lucky and have an air conditioning unit above my bed so that was on for most of the night just to help me try to get some sleep between the toilet visits.

I know ages ago some of you were thinking of hiring a bed nest....... I stumbled across the snuzpod in a magazine yesterday and thought that it looks lovely

Morhulin is another fantastic nappy cream. If you ever get nappy rash, morhulin or metanium will definitely clear it faster than any other nappy cream. Bottom butter from waitrose is a nice everyday nappy cream.

claphammama Wed 17-Jul-13 09:27:57

First night of decent sleep in ages and not one toilet trip for a change!! Makes such a difference. Sorry to hear about your nights pseudo and natalie. Hope you will manage to get through the day somehow...

I'm working from home today so in a pretty good mood. It cuts out the atrocious tube journey and I can work on the sofa in my underwear. I can wear pretty much everything in my office but, still, don't think they would appreciate just underwear. And it's not particularly attractive these days. Thanks God for big pants! I'm waiting for the delivery of DS's passport (obviously leaving it to the last minute before the holidays!) It's supposed to be delivered between 9am and 5pm so it will be 5pm exactly right?

orange hope it's nothing and they just want to schedule or reschedule something!

roxvox I think most companies add bank holidays to your maternity entitlement... I think they have to. I know all my friends had it added. My company doesn't but they give me 6 months full pay maternity package plus 300 quid new baby gift so I can hardly complain about these few days...

thanks chickien snoring wasn't too bad last night! DP didn't drink a lot at all. I think my health tirades are gradually paying off!

Shirehobbit Wed 17-Jul-13 09:57:00

Morning ladies - just completed an epic read back after spending a few days in south Wales, minus reception.

Hope everyone is surviving this new heat onslaught. And that you get reassurance from the doctors soon, orange

We're just off to visit a couple of nurseries. We need to factor in cost/logistics in to our musings about what might happen after Easter. But I am finding the concept quite challenging/stressful sad
Wish us luck!

Flyer747 Wed 17-Jul-13 10:04:39

Morning all,

Well last day of my holiday and DP and I just had a row because he informed me he wants to go to Las Vegas to wet the babies head?! Wtf does anybody else think this is totally ridiculous or am I being overly hormonal!! Wanker grin

roofio87 Wed 17-Jul-13 10:16:11

hi ladies. thanks for your support last night. don't think it had quite sunk in yesterday but was pretty scary. both the other members of my team were hurt in the incident so although I feel bad I'm glad I took me and baby away from it. have had a meeting with senior managers and they've agreed I can stay off youth club from now on.

flyer it does sound a little mad to me, does he mean you all go? I wouldn't want to take a little baby to Vegas! and if he means without baby then I wouldn't want to be so far away!!

PseudoBadger Wed 17-Jul-13 10:16:43

It is completely ridiculous. Get him to speak to friends who have actually been new dads and he'll probably realise it's ridiculous.
DP likes a drink with his mates and there were mutterings of wetting the baby's head before DS was born. He changed his mind afterwards!

Empress77 Wed 17-Jul-13 10:29:21

Roxvox are you from St merryn?! I love the name Merryn. I really really wanted my ds to be called Harlyn but my dh said no. My cousins going to go for Harlyn though! Some beautiful names in Cornwall!

Slippysnow Wed 17-Jul-13 10:34:54

Hi everyone. I haven't been on for a while, to be honest I haven't had much to say or been of much use to anyone that has needed advice.

My app told me there is 100 days left, very exciting. I've been very lucky throughout pregnancy, I just hope it continues and I deliver a happy healthy baby.
Baby is pretty active, his kicks seem to follow a pattern but he is deff more active when he's around his dad.

I'm currently nagotiating my work (I nanny) and how much time to have off and when to start leave. I'm not entitled to any benefits or allowances because all my timings and tax was cocked up. (I was 10 days under the maternity allowance limit) so I'm planning on working until my due date and returning after a month. I know it sounds pretty extreme but dp can look after baby for the 3 hours I work, that's the plan anyway. It's very hard to organise with all ifs buts and maybes

Wickedgirl Wed 17-Jul-13 10:42:58

I am 28 weeks today....... Just 84 days to go if baby comes on due date

roxvox Wed 17-Jul-13 10:49:00

Flyer that sounds crazy to me! How can he expect it to be ok to leave you alone with a new born whilst he goes off galavanting to flipping Vegas! I would be annoyed if my DH intended to spend a night away from me to wet the babies head, let alone a longer period of time (I assume he wouldn't fly there for one night and then fly back the next day) in an entirely different country. Plus the cost of the trip right when you need money!

Empress no I am not from St Merryn, but I am from a small village just outside of Perranporth which is a bit further West on the North coast of Cornwall.

Thanks clapham, your maternity leave package sounds amazing! I get statutory so I think that I might have to try and reclaim those BH days seeing as I will be getting paid bugger all for them!

I am working from home today too. Much more relaxing than the commute into work (to be fair it is just a 30 minute drive, so not as stressful as the tube), but we have less parking spaces than we require daily so it's always a bit of a race to get a space and then if you miss out you've either got to park a mile away and walk in (which I point blank refuse to do at the minute for obvious reasons) or ask around the other companies to see if you can borrow one of their spaces. There are loads of people in the office today, requiring 11 parking spaces, and we only have 6, so I thought I would just stay at home instead of guarantee myself to be out of a space.