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January 2014 - thread 5 - getting excited as we all start getting 12 week scans and move into our second trimester....

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LittlePeaPod Mon 17-Jun-13 18:42:22

Here we go again....

MrsGSR Mon 17-Jun-13 18:56:42

checking in smile

Toothfairy78 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:00:28

Reporting for duty! smile

TobyLerone Mon 17-Jun-13 19:02:08


Naturegirl82 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:28:36

Just checking in. smile

LittlePeaPod Mon 17-Jun-13 20:13:13

Best check myself in....

quackojuliet Mon 17-Jun-13 20:18:56

checking in


Checking in...

enormouse Mon 17-Jun-13 20:36:25

Here I am. Hopefully, I won't post this 20 times.

farmersdaughter Mon 17-Jun-13 20:40:27

Evening all....

Goodness what a chatty bunch we are!

Farmer, Reporting for duty, present and correct yet armed with plenty of sticking chat for you all gringrin

carrotcakecupcake Mon 17-Jun-13 20:43:35

Checking in smile

sarahleanne Mon 17-Jun-13 20:46:30

Heeeeeere!! smile

MrsVDB Mon 17-Jun-13 20:49:16

Checking in

chocoloulou33 Mon 17-Jun-13 20:50:21

Here miss. I filled up the other thread yey lol.
Am in bed, have given up. Been sick 7 times 2day. Work sent me home at 4pm. Am 11 weeks pod am I the only one still vomming? X

Mac2014 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:01:48

choco you're not alone!

Reporting for duty on thread 5.

Vatta Mon 17-Jun-13 21:06:12


Bought my first maternity trousers today - I think my bulge is more bloating than baby at this stage (I'm only ten weeks), but OMG the trousers are comfy!

Penny31 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:07:39

Hello I'm here too!

Can't believe some of you are till vomming. You have my deepest sympathies. I didn't enjoy it but it was reassuring. Now I feel fine I'm really worried that its a bad sign!

farmersdaughter Mon 17-Jun-13 21:08:53

I am so sorry for all of you who are still feeling burgh.... And those of you still having a good old vomit. It's such a drag. Sending you lots of positive non burgh vibes and hope it passes soon.

Can't believe so many of us have now had scans. My isn't till the 15th July, ages yet! Very exciting for you all.

Welcome all newbies! Hope everyone is feeling good.

Right, need to go back to the old thread as I've forgotten anything already blush

enormouse Mon 17-Jun-13 21:11:00

Farmers I think my scan dates are about the same time as yours. Around mid July with an edd of 24th January.

Hi to the newcomers smile

farmersdaughter Mon 17-Jun-13 21:17:43

MrsV - hope you are looking after yourself. x

Today has been interesting, super tried and grump and my DD picked today to start potty training! 'No nappy mummy, big pretty pants' 4 accidents and 2 hurrah potty moments. It's times like this I could really do with a large G&T grin I'll just stick with pepper tea instead smile

farmersdaughter Mon 17-Jun-13 21:18:31

Yeah a scan and EDD buddy grin

farmersdaughter Mon 17-Jun-13 21:21:32

I'll be having a ELCS so my due date could be any time from the 6th Jan, which I think will make me 38/39 weeks give or take.

I have big babies grin

omama Mon 17-Jun-13 21:24:53

Checking in too

Sorry to those of you still being sick! Hopefully things will change soon.

& good luck to those having scans in next couple of days! mrsV I'll keep fx'd for you.

I'm on countdown to my scan now, 2 wks today should hopefully know if everything is ok.

Those of you mentioning maternity bras, has anyone looked at/tried Hotmilk nursing/maternity bras? I got one last time & it was fab, would def recommend.

Is everyone buying maternity clothes already? Been trying to hang on as long as poss before buying as all the new season stuff will be in the shops soon, but just realised I'll prob need to be wearing it before its cold enough for autumn/winter clothes. I feel a shopping trip coming on.....

BabyshamBambi456 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:47:15

All over the new thread smile got 2 weeks 2 days to wait until my scan, very excited.

omama I got a Bravissimo one today - not maternity (underwired) but comfy as anything, and I think it was Toby who said you don't have to have non-wired/she didn't (I am 38F, so non-wired look like parachutes..)

Xmasbaby11 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:49:48

Consultant said he would recommend c section after birth from hell, 10lb baby and severe prolapse last time. Hurrah!

TobyLerone Mon 17-Jun-13 21:57:27

sad loulou. I'm exactly the same as you (11+1) and still awful nausea. No puking, luckily, but it's still horrid. I feel your pain.

TobyLerone Mon 17-Jun-13 22:02:55

Yes, it was me re the non-wired fallacy. As long as your bra fits properly (many places, M&S and department stores included are apparently fitting bras according to a now-obsolete formula), you can have wires. Google bra guru fitting (am on phone and is a pita to link) and have a read. See also the Bra Intervention threads on here.

I followed this advice and went from a 38D to a 34F. It has actually changed my life. My boobs now actually fit in my bra, and because it's tight round the back, my shoulders aren't bearing all the weight any more. My clothes fit better, too.

If you can find a non-underwired bra which fits like a wired one in all the places it should, let us know! It would be a rarity indeed!

Sultanajo Mon 17-Jun-13 22:04:42

Congrats on all the fabbie scans and welcome to all the newbies!

Toby I am with u! 12+1 today and nausea and knackeredness have been as bad as ever. In fact its worse than it was a week ago - it was kicking in at 5pm and is starting 30 mins from waking and lasting until I go to bed! Whats with that??? No vomming thankfully but it still really sucks!

Cant properly catch up tonight - so tired can barely see straight! Cant believe we are on thread 5!!! grin

MrsGSR Mon 17-Jun-13 22:06:59

My issue is that I'm a 30GG, which is pretty impossibly to find (especially on the high street), so having to wear a 32G so going unwired for now!

TobyLerone Mon 17-Jun-13 22:07:02

Sultana, you'll be pleased to know that I finally bought some apples today wink

MrsAVB Mon 17-Jun-13 22:15:04

<me landing on the new Fred, FYI>
choco well done on filling Fred 4... smile
Today has been a baaaad vomming day. And I was hoping I was done after 3 vom free days. Sigh...
A (slightly tmi) question ladies. Hair removal. Err... Down there...? One of my stupid apps told me that hair removal cream chemicals are bad for preggos. I am a wax-pain-aphobe and shaving down there is just a baaaad idea. Any ideas? I want to go swimming without frightening any children, also I know at my 12 week scan this week I am having an internal too as my hospital does some extra scans of the foofoo to measure cervix length to identify risk factors around premature labour. And I would like them to be able to find my foofoo. blush.
Sleep well ladies, hope that hasn't given you any nightmares smile

Naturegirl82 Mon 17-Jun-13 22:15:21

mrsgsr I would really recommend bravissimo, they have quite a lot of 30 gg bras (wired and nonwired). The staff in their shops are lovely and helpful, or if not one near you I think they have free returns if you order online. I've not looked back since shopping in there.

MrsGSR Mon 17-Jun-13 22:18:15

I keep saying I'll look on the bravissimo website and then forgetting! I'll go on there now smile

MrsMLB Mon 17-Jun-13 23:22:16

Hi all :-)
Got first midwife app tomorrow....not sure what to expect...anything a good idea to ask?

BuntCadger Mon 17-Jun-13 23:31:01

<pulls up comfy chair> marking place

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 00:20:22

Boo grin

Yonionekanobe Tue 18-Jun-13 00:22:56

Hi everyone. Scan tomorrow - eek! Flying to America after it so hope all is well. Will probably be offline for best part of three weeks so wishing you all well for the 12 weeks and by the time I get back we may all have stopped puking and be blooming! x

chocoloulou33 Tue 18-Jun-13 00:49:34

Have reached an all time low. Vomming at night. Think this is worst day I've had so far :'( x

curlywurlyllass Tue 18-Jun-13 02:09:53

Checking in with a lack of symptoms

hope those of u still being sick can get a break soon

nightshifts and tiredness are a lethal combination, ive just banged my leg in the dark grr thats gonna bruise for the next 3-4 weeks sad


flowersfortea Tue 18-Jun-13 04:03:38

morning all, marking place.
Woke up at 3 nauseous and unable to switch off about work.

Off to find a midnight snack to see if it will help both!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 06:51:03

Good luck, yoni, and have a good trip!

Poor loulou sad I hope you have a much better day today.

MrsA, can you trim? The only reason I can think that hair removal cream might be bad is because your skin is more sensitive during pregnancy. Perhaps do a patch test to see whether you react?

omama Tue 18-Jun-13 06:59:45

toby I didnt know the advice had changed re underwired bras - thought it was to do with preventing your milk ducts forming properly or something?

Anyhoo thats great news as most maternity & nursing bras are bloody awful! I will say tho, the hotmilk ones are very very supportive, I'm not small in that department either & I was pleasantly surprised.

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 07:31:55

Morning ladies!

choco and MrsAVB so sorry you guys are having such a rough time! It royally sucks! Perhaps it's the storm before the calm (she says crossing fingers and toes).....?

yoni best of luck! Really hope it all goes well and you have a fab time in the US! We will miss you while you are away!

Thinking of everyone with scans today - Penny deep breaths (and pack the tissues ready for your pre-scan meltdown)....wink

Could not switch off last night so tossed and turned the whole time and then couldn't get up this morning - zombified!!! Roll on 5pm!

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 07:32:51

Toby that's awesome! Hope they help you - I bought some Royal Gala yesterday (normally get Pink Lady) - for something different, but haven't had the guts to try them yet....will suck it up and try them today! grin

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 07:41:28

OK, a bit of advice about sleeping positions. I have managed to train myself to sleep on my back rather than my front, which is a massive achievement, but I struggle to stay on my side to sleep - I don't find it as comfortable, whereas I could stay on my back most of the night. I have read after 16 weeks you should ideally be sleeping on your LHS - to do with blood flow and oxygen to the baby. I ordered a dreamgenii pillow last night in a moment of desperation to try and get myself sleeping on my LHS by the time I get to 16 weeks, so there is no pressure to suddenly change.

Anyone else struggling with this and perhaps ladies who are on DC2+ how did you manage? A friend of mine ended up sleeping almost upright propped up with tons of pillows....

Frizz1986 Tue 18-Jun-13 07:52:55

Just checking in. Have just caught up on all the posts and now can't remember anything anyone said!

yoni have a fab time on holiday. Am sure it will be amazing!
I am still in normal trousers I just went for my bigger size. Need to get some mat ones I think but just can't be bothered.
Still no book growth this end. Am filling all the bras that i think used to be too big for me so I think something happened at some point.

Sorry to all those still ill. Still not been sick yet but have too much saliva in my mouth these days and it tastes horrific. Nothing will shift it even sour sweets!

Congrats on the scans too. Just under 2 weeks til mine and I can't wait. Need to get stage 1 over with as am v stressed financially with Dh about to be out of work and no one at work really knows how hard the situation is and keeps saying u'll be fine u are good at budgeting (all the while I know come Jan I will be earning next to nothing on mat pay and it will nowhere near cover our monthly outgoings)

Anyhow people go thru it harder than me so just gotta suck it up and go for it.

Best get ready for work as am already running later than normal.

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 08:09:20

MrsA your hair removal question made me laugh! I had the same concern last time. Thing is... Not too far from now you won't even be able to see down there and you really really won't care!!

MrsVDB Tue 18-Jun-13 08:12:13

D day. On the bus. Keep your fingers crossed for me pleased. Feeling very sad that this is probably my last hour or so being 'pregnant'

BuntCadger Tue 18-Jun-13 08:15:18

Fingers crossed for you mrsv xxx

Consultant appt for me today.

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 08:15:57

Good luck MrsV. Don't lose hope just yet xx

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 08:17:50

mrsavb I think trimming is the way to go - my books say I shouldn't use hair removal creams in case the chemicals somehow harm the baby, so I'm just trimming now. Am sure the doctors can cope with seeing a messy bikini line!

sultanajo I just bought a dreamgenii pillow as well, will let you know how it goes. I'm still waking up on my front, I move around lots when I'm asleep!

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 08:20:49

Good luck mrsvdb, thinking of you.

Gabbyj Tue 18-Jun-13 08:22:43

Sultana from what I remember when I had DD, when you get bigger you won't be able to turn over in bed! I had a V shaped pillow, which was under my bump and this helped quite a lot too and I used this from quite early in to get me used to it!

Hope all of you vomiting feel better soon. I have been lucky so far, just the constant nausea alleviated only by tons of carbs and sleep! So much for healthy eating!

Thinking about having a private scan to alleviate anxiety. Only 7 + 4 and pretty sure I can't wait another 4 weeks without having a nervous breakdown - how did I do it last time! I can't remember!!! With all the hormones at play I can't tell if I am just being extra precious? blush

Gabbyj Tue 18-Jun-13 08:24:16

Thinking of you MrsV xx

MrsAVB Tue 18-Jun-13 08:34:59

FX for today mrsv, will be thinking of you. And I think there are at least 2 ladies with 12 week scans today? Preggo brain is rubbish but am going to guess penny and sultana? Hope all goes well xxx
Is anyone else blaming bump for everything? Eg. "Who ate the last of the ice cream?" Bump did. "Who flooded the bathroom by forgetting to check the shower screen was in place?" Bump, of course!

Frizz1986 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:38:05

mrsvdb have got all fingers and toes crossed for u

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 08:38:56

So....advice please.

Over the last few days I've had small amounts of pinkish/brownish CM. I didn't worry about it because I've read before that so long as it's pink or brown it's old blood and not a problem.

This morning I've just seen a small amount of clear red blood in my CM. it's a tiny amount - I wouldn't have noticed at all if I hadn't been checking like a paranoid loon. I'm only ten weeks.

Wondering if I should call my midwife or if it's just a teeny tiny bit of blood should I just stay calm and ignore it?

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 08:41:51

Will be thinking of you MrsV. Virtual hand holding! Really hope you have a nice surprise!

Good luck with the consultant Bunt.

Thanks Vatta - fingers crossed for the dreamgenii! Good tips there Gabby - thank you! I know what you are going through - scans are becoming an addiction and I can't believe after this Friday's it will be at least another 7 weeks before the next and then that's it!!! How do you go from 20 weeks to birth with no scans! I guess hopefully you start feeling the movements and that gives the reassurance, but it all feels like a long time!

Frizz I really feel for you - what a shitty time you are having! DH's job has been in question for the last few years and he will find out more in September - marvellous timing that would be - 3 months before baby Sultana makes an appearance! I am currently in denial and trying to be positive that he will still have a job! In fact I have convinced myself so much that it will be fine, that I will be in mega shock if it's not!!!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 08:44:01

Info re underwired bras in pregnancy.

Page 6 here.

Like anything else, there are different opinions. Do whatever you prefer. I don't think there's a right or wrong.

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 08:46:20

MrsAVB it is Penny, but mine is on Friday.... OMG yes - DH came home the other night and saw I had eaten something he was leaving for his dinner and I blamed it on the bump to be!!!

Vatta hopefully it's nothing, but to put your mind at rest I would contact your midwife and get her advice. I had browny/pink spotting for 10 days from around 8 weeks and it got really heavy one day and I was convinced it was game over, only to go for a scan and see a happy little bean with a strong heartbeat and no explanation for the bleeding. However, I would always check with your midwife - she may say to monitor it for now, but if it's now red blood (although tiny amount) I would just call her for your own peace of mind...

Naturegirl82 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:48:17

Good luck everyone with scans today. Fx everything is ok for you all.

I'm about to start three really tiring days at work and I've got a sore throat and generally feel under the weather. Not good timing. At least it gives me a reason for not joining in with the drinking tonight.

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 08:48:27

Good luck, MrsV flowers

farmersdaughter Tue 18-Jun-13 09:00:18

For everyone who is feeling pants, worried or just generally burgh...
this is for you Enjoy

farmersdaughter Tue 18-Jun-13 09:13:33

Don't judge me on the Daily Fail link blush grin

Vatta easier said than done I know but try not to worry not helpful but maybe call your MW if you are still concerned. Maybe worth having a scan to your mind at rest.

Nature look after yourself. If you can, early nights.

Toby bra links..amazballs [winks]

Who ever suggested Hot Milk, looks really good. Will get measure and get some. I'm a 32FF so lords only know how big I am going to get this time around...{ekkks} Not a fan of bravissimo, but might give it a shot since you lot are all raving about it.

Choc Boooo, hope you're feeling better this morning. I'm started on fresh ginger tea in the morning and peppermint tea in the evenings to settle my tummy. It's just shit, hugs for you.

Good luck to everyone who's having scans today.

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 09:23:42

Hot Milk looks really good but the name makes me want to barf. Something about it really grosses me out and I can't quite bring myself to investigate further!

Frizz1986 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:29:30

vatta I would call ur midwife. It's what they are there for after all and it will probably be something that they regularly get calls about. I had brown spotting for a few days at 8 weeks and was told to monitor it. I obv was still freaked so paid for a private scan as knew nhs won't scan just cos i am a paranoid loon.

sultana I am very much prepared for no job for Dh. Hes a teacher so should be able to get some supply work but it might be random weeks with work and then weeks without. Think it will be our savings that keep us going next year as I really want to be able to take a year off. More feel for him as this is the 2nd time in 2 years that he has lost his job (he is a really good teacher but the schools have had lower child intakes and it's last one in first one out) and i think it kills him as he has such long hours preparing for class and he just wants to feel needed.

Anyway less sad talk and more happy stuff. Good luck for scanning people!

LittlePeaPod Tue 18-Jun-13 09:31:56

On my phone and just a quick one to say MrsV good luck and my thoughts are with you. Crossing everything.

Chocco its awful. I had one of those nights the day and felt dreadful yesterday. If it helps I can totally empathise with how you are feeling. I hope it eases soon.

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 09:36:17

Oh, and here is the bra fitting advice I CBA to link last night!

I'm with extra on the Hot Milk thing. Boak.

MrsVDB Tue 18-Jun-13 09:43:50

Omg. They did a pregnancy test which was very faint so I thought it was all over but when they scanned me.... 8+3 so back to my proper dates and heartbeat and all is good!!!!!!! Soooo happy!!!!!!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 09:47:22

Yay! That is excellent news, MrsV grin I'm so happy for you.

MrsVDB Tue 18-Jun-13 09:53:49

Thank you toby sobbed like a loon so much they had to ask me to stay still so they could take the photo. And when I came out the room the nurse in the hall asked if it was ok so she obviously heard to!! Off to work now but think ill be randomly crying all day!! Such an amazing shock!!

Naturegirl82 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:05:43

congratulations mrsvdb so glad it was good news for you.

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 10:35:46

Yay MrsV!! I had a feeling you'd be ok smile

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 10:45:57

MrsA, choco, flowers and anyone else still feeling rough, I hope it starts to fade soon!

Yoni Good luck for the scan! I hope you enjoy your time away smile

Re Bras, the shop assistant in mothercare (they didn't have my size) told me I shouldn't wear underwired bras as it will affect milk production. Worried DH but kind of annoyed me as I'd already said I was just looking and didn't need any help!

Frizz and Sultana I hope things start to look better money wise, you don't really need extra stress at this stage!

Vatta Hopefully it's nothing, but if you're worried in the pack the midwife gave me there is a card from Tommy's Pregnancy line (I know someone posted the number on a previous thread too) Saying "For expert advice on healthy pregnancies, talk to our midwives from Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm on 0800 0147 800" I haven't used them yet but it might be worth giving them a call if you don't want to ring your midwife?

I'm blaming bump for things blush mainly eating, but I have also been saying 'baby doesn't want me to do the dishes' as I've been getting really light headed due to the heat!

MrsV I'm so happy for you!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 11:04:16

Well, MrsG, you can now tell them that according to the NHS there is no evidence to support their sales pitch view grin

farmersdaughter Tue 18-Jun-13 11:07:19

Mrsv woohoooooo thanks

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 11:08:30

Ok can't get hold of my lead midwife but after various calls to maternity helplines, some rather frantic googling, and a nice calming call with my mum, I've worked out that if I wasn't pregnant I'd be due for my period right now - apparently light trace bleeding at the time you would have had a period is fairly common.

I've been told to keep an eye on it - if it gets heavier, there are any clots, or I get abdominal pain I have to go to a&e or epu. If it stays just light spotting then I'm supposed to stay calm and not worry (am trying!).

Thanks all for your advice above, I really wasn't sure if I was being loony for worrying about it.

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 11:09:35

And well done MrsV, great news!

Bluecarrot Tue 18-Jun-13 11:10:06

Can anyone interpret this bit of my scan? Baby was in awkward position for scan so midwife said its hard to get accurate size readings.

One pic says 11wk 4d 75.4% and another says 11wk 1d 34%. Are the percentages to do with accuracy? I thought on scan day I was 11wk exactly.

As for bras, I used to work for a large online lingerie company. The most popular bras were Emma Jane, then Elle macpherson (though have size restrictions) and hot milk was new just as I was leaving, but I was impressed with the ones I saw. I plan to order lots an pretend I can afford to keep them all. ;)

Bluecarrot Tue 18-Jun-13 11:13:13

Toby - Pmsl at "squidgy of torso" in that link.

MrsAVB I don't do waxing/creams etc, just a trim normally, but I'm sure the advice is: waxing hurts, hair removal creams are a no (?) and therefore it's epilation/lasers/shaving or jungle. Good choices, no?!

Yoni have a fab trip - how exciting!

loulou I'm so sorry - I really hope things start to improve in the next few days.

sultana I sleep on my side naturally - have you tried having something to 'hug' (a pillow/DH/duvet) - it keeps me balanced, somehow. Also a good mattress helps.

MrsV SO glad for you! Hurrah! I was worrying all morning, now I can relax. Phew!

Everyone else, I am rubbish and cannot remember anything for more than two seconds. I hope you are all well and happy!

I am much less nauseous today - only a bit sick feeling on Tube. Now of course, I am panicking that something is wrong. hmm Someone hand me a grip. I have my booking-in tomorrow - do they check hb there (if you ask?) perhaps? I hope so! I might cave and go private if not. Somehow the worry has really kicked in today. Maybe cos it all feels more real now it's 10+4!

Vatta Tue 18-Jun-13 11:28:35

Humpty they didn't check hb at my booking in, I think somebody said on another thread there was a concern about using the Doppler to check heartbeat too early in case the heat it generates causes a problem for the baby.

So it's either waiting till the 12 week scan or going private I think (although like everything else in the nhs they may do it differently in your area)

Naturegirl82 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:30:41

Humpty I thought we couldn't have laser when pg. Something to do with skin reacting differently and could cause permanent damage. Whenever I go for laser treatment they always ask if I'm pg so assume that must be for a reason. I'm gutted we can't, means I'm going to turn into a hairy monster! blush

chocoholicalcoholic Tue 18-Jun-13 11:32:53

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd come out of hiding, have been lurking on and off to see how you're all doing. Sorry to see a few ladies leave, if you're lurking I hope you are all doing ok.

Sorry to hear you are struggling choco I hope you start to improve soon. I'm still chucking most days and have constant nausea still. Not fun throwing up in the night either, you have my sympathies.

I'm pleased so many of you have had happy scans, very jealous of you all. My first scan is next Tues which will be 13 weeks. Cannot actually wait now - time is going sooo slowly!

Those of you on third pregnancies, how many of you are showing? I feel like I look 4/5 months already!

Really can't wait to be able to enjoy food again. I'm running out of foods that I haven't thrown up or just completely gone off. Baby is going to come out looking like a mixture between a chip butty and gravy and mash if I'm not careful!

Have a good day all smile

chocoholicalcoholic Tue 18-Jun-13 11:48:33

sultana in previous pregnancies I have stuffed extra pillows around me. One at my back, one under bump and one between knees when bigger and it helped most of the time. I did occasionally find myself flat on my back in the middle of the night and once I woke up to find myself splat on my front (at about 5 months) totally freaked cause thought I'd squashed the baby, but all was fine!! You'll find as you get bigger you can't really move and if you do it wakes you anyway, so you'll know what position you're getting yourself into.

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 12:00:38

chocoholicalcoholic sorry to hear your still being sick!

I had really bad back ache during the first few weeks (seems to have faded for now!) and putting a pillow between my knees when lying on my side really helped smile

As we're coming up to 12 weeks, is anyone going to do a pregnancy announcement? I'm telling close friends and family first but was thinking of putting something on facebook on our wedding anniversary (we'll be 17 weeks) but I want to keep our scans private. I saw some cute idea on pinterest, I'm leaning toward the rhyme 'First comes love, second comes marriage...' across a picture of me and DH when we first got together, followed by a picture of our rings from our wedding day and then a picture of our shoes by the back door with our dates of birth written in chalk next to them and some baby shoes with 'January 2014'.

But, possibly due to being hormonal, I began to worry yesterday that it would look like I'm judging people who have kids before getting married? Am I being silly or do you think people will be offended?

MrsVDB Tue 18-Jun-13 12:01:29

humpty I'm proof no symptoms is fine!! So try not to worry.

The best bump excuse is 'bump farted....'

Penny31 Tue 18-Jun-13 12:03:25

Wow there really is a baby in there! Scan was amazing and I'm on cloud nine. I can't believe how lucky I am!

They have changed my EDD to wait for it......20 th of December!!! Meaning I'm 13+4 which doesn't add up to me. I need to look into it. I hope I'm still welcome here though sad

BuntCadger Tue 18-Jun-13 12:04:31

Back from consultant and he's lovely. After speaking (being nagged and berated) to dietician I may be stopping 5-2. Consultant gave me a quick scan :-))) and I finally saw baby. Dates are different, makes me 10w rather than almost 12 so edd changed to 14th. Saw heartbeat and only the one baby. Thrilled to of seen it as was starting to wonder if I was imagining it all! Lol xxx

4athomeand1cooking Tue 18-Jun-13 12:05:01

MrsV that makes two of us.

Scan thus morning puts me back at 8+3 with a very strong HB

I was so sure it was over

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 12:07:59

MrsG, I certainly wouldn't be offended by that. I would think it was a bit sickly if I saw it on my news feed, if I'm honest, but I'm sure lots of people will think it's cute.

Congrats, penny! Of course you're still welcome grin

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 12:10:02

Yay for all the scans! Penny of course your still welcome smile
Bunt I'm glad you finally got to see baby!
4athome Really happy for you smile
It's all getting so real and exciting!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 12:11:09

Excellent news, 4athome smile

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 12:12:23

Toby it is very sickly! Separately me and DH are not at all cutesy, but for some reason together we make people want to throw up!

penny and MrsV and 4athome and Bunt
MrsV did your symptoms stop, or did you just not have any? God, I just know I'm gonna cave and get a private scan at this rate...

choco sorry you're still pukey. Hope the gravy and mash help!

MrsG agreed - a bit sickly, but otherwise fine. You are allowed to say the order you've done it in (and if people get offended, stuff 'em!) - you're not saying any other order is wrong...

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 12:27:04

Yeay mrsv 4athome penny & bunt awesome scan news!!! Woop woop!

Thanks for the sleeping tips - I tried hugging things but got too hot, so hoping the dreamgenii is going to be the compromise....grin

enormouse Tue 18-Jun-13 12:27:15

I like the shoes idea MrsGSR. I wouldn't do it myself as I'm really private and fb irks me. But it's a sweet and novel alternative to scans.

It's lovely to hear everyone's news btw. I'm having trouble remembering it all though by the time I scroll down. Am feeling a bit less sicky today but generally can't eat till early afternoon.

Am in the process of applying for the toddler's first passport and booking a family trip away (most likely to Edinburgh). Is anyone planning on having a pre New baby holiday/babymoon?
(My bump brain is terrible btw - I temporarily forgot my own sons middle names and one of them is my surname)

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 12:30:33

mrsg its very sickly but actually brought a tear to my eye! Stupid hormones!!!blush

choco sorry u r still rough. It feels like its never gonna end doesnt it?

humpty! arghhh! I was determined not to have any scans before 12 weeks and ended up with 4, so I certainly cant talk u out of caving. It saved my sanity!!! blush

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 12:33:33

I won't be doing a fb announcement. I've asked everyone else to keep it quiet too.

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 12:38:05

I have taken myself off facebook for now because I want to tell people myself and not have people announce it for me.....

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 12:39:12

Thanks, I think I will do some version of it. My sister is the opposite of sickly so I'll get her to check is not too vomit worthy before posting! I don't think I'd put anything on Facebook if it wasn't for the fact I have family and friends all over the world, close family are coming to the uk for my uncles 50th at the beginning of August so I can tell them then but I don't want any of the extended family getting upset I didn't tell them! And DH had lived all over the uk and in Germany because of his work so he's got friends everywhere!

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 12:45:54

I totally get it mrsg. Luckily most of our family have just been over from abroad so were able to tell them face to face. grin

BuntCadger Tue 18-Jun-13 13:00:09

Choc, I'm on 4th preg now and starting to look chubby on the tummy. Interesting for those on 3rd, consultant said 3rd deliveries are usually the easiest and quickest... I then said so what about 4th? And he said that more chance of baby being in awkward position :-/

Frizz1986 Tue 18-Jun-13 13:01:35

Yay congrats for all the scans. So nice that you have had reassurance and you can be more excited now.

mrs with regards to fb I will be announcing after an and after I have personally called family and told friends. I am a keen baker so will be putting a photo up of a bun in my oven with a sign on it saying Jan 2014. Seemed appropriate for me and there is no way I can tell everyone I want my news without the assistance of fb.

I really want to start blaming baby for everything now. My boss came over today to let me know I need to be careful as I had priced a job as £40 instead of £400. Oops! Thankfully the customer noticed and actually advised my boss that they had been charged to little. I know being pg is no excuse but it's hard to concentrate sometimes when u feel sick and have an awful taste in your mouth. Boss has never had kids so i don't think she understands the distraction of all the symptoms and the stretching inside!

Frizz1986 Tue 18-Jun-13 13:02:43

That should have said announcing after scan (stupid phone)

BuntCadger Tue 18-Jun-13 13:07:35

Frizz, that's a lovely way to announce it smile I'm trying to think of clever way to do same, but mind is mush.

Can someone link stats thread, as now I have seen baby I'm more confident to actually join smile)

Edd 14-1-14 baby 4. (2xDS 13&5 and DD 19m)

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 13:25:06

Frizz thats a really nice idea smile

Bunt there are so many ideas on pinterest!

I am slightly worried that people will put it on Facebook before I have a chance to tell everyone I want to tell in person. Telling everyone to keep it quiet until we mention it online.

Penny31 Tue 18-Jun-13 13:36:11

I hate big announcements, I'm letting my parents tell their brothers and sisters because they are bursting to tell them. I will send a scan pic to my cousins and most of my close friends know already. I am dreading announcing it at work. I hate a fuss!

Mythreeknights Tue 18-Jun-13 13:43:46

Hi all, just checking onto this thread. Congratulations toall happy scanners esp Mrsv and 4. I can't remember everyone's news and questions apart from two things, hot milk (i love the name! only discovered post delivery of ds1 when my boobs were very pamela Anderson esque and FULL of hot milk so i thought it a v appropriate name). secondly this is my third pg and (9 weeks) still in normal clothes but feel the weight is going on ALL over rather than growing s nice round bump. Especially waist, hips and arms. Am on a train so can't scroll, but sympathies to co

Mythreeknights Tue 18-Jun-13 13:45:28

Hi all, just checking onto this thread. Congratulations toall happy scanners esp Mrsv and 4. I can't remember everyone's news and questions apart from two things, hot milk (i love the name! only discovered post delivery of ds1 when my boobs were very pamela Anderson esque and FULL of hot milk so i thought it a v appropriate name). secondly this is my third pg and (9 weeks) still in normal clothes but feel the weight is going on ALL over rather than growing s nice round bump. Especially waist, hips and arms. Am on a train so can't scroll, but sympathies to chocco for continued vomming...you poor thing. My nausea seems to have lifted in past few days. Wanted to also ask Gabbi how u are getting on?

Bluecarrot Tue 18-Jun-13 14:04:50

Mrs gsr - I'm not married and would not be offended. Better than those Cringey ones of the mum with was down the loo and the dad grinning in the foreground, with text to side saying " guess what we are expecting?!"

I announced it to dp with the text " the <surname>-< surname> family are extending by two feet. Est completion January 2014."

It's a bit cheesy but would maybe use it for announcement to others too. By card in the post. Cause I can't cope with attention!

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 14:13:44

I was going to announce it to my mil by giving her a framed scan photo, but I couldn't wait that long!

BuntCadger Tue 18-Jun-13 14:29:35

I don't mind the attention grin lol. This is very likely out last pregnancy and going to make most of it (well the good bits anyhow). I got married when I was preg with DD so had attention overload. This time tho, most people will be, again?! I've already been asked by a few people I've told... 'So is this a good thing? Are you happy?' Wtf! Of course I'm delighted else I wouldn't be sharing such amazing news. But it appears as this is adding to our brood its ok to imply its unwanted/unplanned.

MrsVDB Tue 18-Jun-13 14:42:28

humpty I was never sick but was very nauseous, sore boobs, knackered, etc but this all just went at 6+4 which is why I was so worried!!

4athome that's amazing news! Congratulations! Due date buddies!!

enormouse we are thinking of going to Thailand but nothing booked yet as don't know if its a good idea

Mythreeknights Tue 18-Jun-13 15:01:10

burnt i know how you feel...like having more than two kids is 'greedy' (perceived by some) and everyone i have told so far has asked 1. was it planned (eg are you mental, who would want three of the little horrors?) 2. have you told your dh? (as if i would be telling anyone before him anyhow!!)

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 15:41:22

I'm with you, Penny. Big announcements make me shudder. I really hate them. I'm really not telling many people. Definitely not doing a FB thing. Anyone I care that much about I'll see at some point anyway and then they'll know! FB acquaintances will see a pg photo at some point, or a photo of the baby. My friend managed to keep everything about her pregnancy off FB until she posted a photo of her huge belly about a week before her due date. It was amazing. I'd love to be able to do that!

I saw my mum today and she was already trying to make me choose a pram (which she wants to pay for, which sounds nice but just means I don't get to say "I hate that!" when she suggests something) and nagging me about whether we're going to put the house on the market and move now.

Yay! Congrats on the lovely scans news and relief all round smile

Not sure about fb. There's a lot of people I would want to know, who because of distance (we live 300 miles away from family and most of our friends) are probably likely to find out that way. I just CBA with a big announcement though! Probably will just write a little 'I'm up the duff' status. I'm such a technophobe I hardly ever post on it, so people won't expect much.

Poor DS has been throwing up all morning and much of last night, so any nausea I feel today is a lot more ominous than normal. Fingers crossed I escape his lurgi.

curlywurlyllass Tue 18-Jun-13 16:00:23

Congratulations on those happy scans!

Ive too have been thinking about a quirky way of telling people. since we found out our news on return from a family holiday i think i will say to them "not going on holiday with you lot again..... 10 of us went, 11 of us came back!"
It might take some of them a while to work it out lol
Might put a similar post on fb, but might not say anything there. My 2nd cousin's son was born sleeping 2 years ago and its still very raw for her and that side of my family so will need to b sensitive for them

Love some of your thoughts on announcements!!

sarahleanne Tue 18-Jun-13 16:09:16

Had my scan this morning , all ok and babies bouncing, just the one thank god!! They put my date forward a week so I'm now 10+1 and due on 13th jan if anyone would like to change my edd, I can't do it on my phone.

Choc- this is my 3rd baby and I'm getting big already , I hate that inbetween stage where you don't look pregnant but you just look chubby.

Got told by the hairdresser yesterday that I didn't look old enough to have 3 kids , and she gasped in the mirror when I told her my age, how bloody rude. I actually said well I work and my husband works so I don't see a problem, and then wondered why the hell I was trying to justify myself to a total stranger !!!!

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 16:17:09

Glad your scan went well sarah smile
Some people are so rude!

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 16:34:58

Was she being rude or trying to compliment you, sarah? Good news on the scan, btw grin

4athomeand1cooking Tue 18-Jun-13 16:49:41

Thank you so much to all of you for your well wishes.

Bunt and Mythree so with you on that. People think we are mad. I have been lectured on the use of contraception on numerous occasions, the most offensive, just after I gave birth to DS4 and the discharging nurse asked me if I had "learnt my lesson" and "did she really need to do the contraception talk". I get the funny ones like "have you got a TV" but I just say "yes it's on my bedroom ceiling"

Bunt my 4th was by far the easiest. He practically slid out grin although so was three so I hope to have five in my sleep and wake up and say "oh I have given birth" grin

I think any way you choose to announce your baby news is lovely. It's one of the few times that you can be fully self-obsorbed and do it your own way.

sarahleanne Tue 18-Jun-13 16:53:47

No I'm only 24 so I think she was being a bit bitchy, stupid woman haha

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 17:23:30

Yeay great news on your scan Sarah! Ignore bitchy idiots! They are just jealous!!!

Toby I am with you - would love to shock the world on FB a week before am due.... I hardly ever post on there anyway and to be honest since I have been off it it has been a relief not to have to keep checking to see what everyone is up to. I feel free! Lol!

Love that idea curly "went away as 10 and came back as 11"! My mate told me by saying "there are three of us in this room" and my first thought was "OMG it's haunted!" grin She patiently waited until the penny dropped (a bit like Joey in friends - it too a while) and then she had to clamp a hand over my mouth as I couldn't help shrieking in excitement! She was trying to keep it quiet!!!

Well, after the most shocking shite day at work where I ended up in the toilet in tears this afternoon thinking "what's the fecking point - I am only one person, I can't physically do any more than I am and things still cock up" I am going to snuggle on the sofa and feel sorry for myself while trying not to heave! Bought some ready salted crisps yesterday as that is what got me through the party on Sunday, but low and behold today I can't face them. Fecks sake! Looks like July is gonna be unbelieveably hectic at work with loads of people off and me trying to do everything and tons of unplanned overtime. Just hoping I feel less like vomming by then! Pity party over! blush

Toothfairy78 Tue 18-Jun-13 18:27:26

Nice to see you ladies have had nice scans and getting ready to announce!

I would like to have small huff at being told by my very dear friend that I'm not allowed to run in my condition. I only broke into a trot to catch up with her In the car park FFS! I think once I announce at work there will be increased incidence of me telling well meaning people where they can stick it...

And I'd like to thank peapod for the maternity clothes tip. My trousers from Gap arrived in the post and they are a revelation! They are so comfy and material despite being an easy care synthetic feels quite nice. Very generous on the thighs too. Can't all office clothes be like this?

extracrunchy Tue 18-Jun-13 19:06:01

Toothfairy Gap were lifesavers for me last time - glad they work for you too!

Sarah - ignore the hairdresser idiot. Some people...

Congrats to all the lovely scans today!!

I've had some spotting the last few days, so booked for a private one tomorrow. Fingers crossed...

DS is also poorly today so pretty crap day all round confused

chocoloulou33 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:23:07

Hi everyone, HUGE congrats on all the scans 2day smile all very good news so that's lovely to hear!
chocoholic oh no another poorly choco like me! Hope u feel better soon xx I've only vommed twice 2day so that's a big improvement on yestrday & also managed a full day at work xx

Yonionekanobe Tue 18-Jun-13 19:24:49

Fabulous to hear all the scan news! Especially MrsV after the worries.

Thanks for all the holiday good wishes. Off soon!

My scan went well, although I am now technically an imposter on this thread as due date revised to 30 December.

Have a wonderful few weeks and I look forward to hearing all your news!

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 19:28:28

extra fingers crossed its nothing to worry about! Will keep everything crossed for you for tomorrow!

yoni so pleased for you! Now you can relax and enjoy your hols! grin

LittlePeaPod Tue 18-Jun-13 19:48:37

Congratulations to all the fantastic scan news. MrsV I am so delighted for you, it's fantastic.

Hope everyone still feeling pants starts feeling better soon. I seem to have taken a step back on that front this week. Also have my first MW appointment next week from the trail NHS system which provides a one to one MW service from your home and they see you as often as you want them too. It will be interesting having two MWs. Feel a bit greedy..

Sultanajo that's exactly what DF and I are doing. Thought we would put a picture on FB of chickpea (not the scan) when he/she is about a week old. People will have heart failure as no one ever expected me to have children.... Lol. Always been a workaholic and never got broody till this January when we first started ttc. How are you feeling? Hopefully a little better than the other day. Sorry to hear about your pants day. Stressful under normal circumstances but even worse when you feel sick and tired anyway..

Tooth you are welcome.. smile. Ohhh people telling you what to do and not to do.. Annoying.. My close friend (no kids never been pregnant) rang me up a week after finding out and said "you should not be going on a long haul flight to get married in September. I thought and when did you get a MW qualification What if the food makes you ill? What are the hospital facilities like? What if you give birth etc. etc. etc." I know it was well intended but I felt like saying "feck off I have spoken to MW and doctor and they are fine with me going". It really irritated me... angry

Extra sorry to hear that. Good luck for tomorrow. flowers

With regards announcements we have decided not to tell anyone expect those that now know (very close friends, family and work-only those that need to know). Everyone is sworn to secrecy and I trust them not to say anything. Plus they would only tell each other anyway. We are just going to wait and see what people say as bump gets bigger.. grin. With regards work, i am planning on hiding bump till after the wedding in September hopefully and then go into work with something that totally shows bump off first day back... If I have a decent sized bump otherwise I will wait a bit longer. Walk in, sit at my desk, not say anything and just carry on like normal... grin

Sultanajo Tue 18-Jun-13 20:05:31

pod so sorry you have taken a step back! Its unbelievable isnt it! How exciting about your second midwife! Thats really awesome and how reassuring! You will have to let us know how you get on. grin

What an awesome idea about work! Would love to see their faces when you walk in all non-chalantly! grin One of my friends told me by revealing her bump, which she had covered sneakily with a long scarf up to that point! I was totally shocked. Thats the sort of thing I want to do with a few friends, but am sure I will see them soon and wont be able to keep it from them.....hmm

TobyLerone Tue 18-Jun-13 20:26:04

I was 5 months with DC2 when I told work. It was winter, so big jumpers!

LittlePeaPod Tue 18-Jun-13 20:31:19

Sultanajo I can't wait to see their faces... Ha ha ha. I would struggle with close friends as 1) they would guess as I love a few glasses of wine normally and 2) I think I would burst...

Toby great idea.. By the time i am back at work post wedding, it will be October so it may be cold then so I could get away with some jumpers... Great tip grin

sarahleanne Tue 18-Jun-13 21:19:02

I am already in bed feel drained today, maybe cus of the anticipation of the scan this morning!!

Night everyone

GL for tomorrow extra and anyone else having scans in the next few days.

Penny31 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:31:50

Phew what a crazy day. Think I've managed to tell my whole huge family now and I'm shattered. I sends a lot of them a text with a scan pic and then they rang. It's lovely how excite everyone is.

Great news from others who have had scans today and best of luck to those with them over the next few days.

So I'm 13+4 and my nuchal fold test was 2.2mm which seems quite high? I'm now panicking about the downs results. They said they will let me know by Thursday if its high risk. When will we stop worrying and start enjoying this!!??

omama Tue 18-Jun-13 21:39:05

Ladies am having a little panic....

Just went to the loo & there was a tiny bit of brown blood/discharge (sorry tmi) when i wiped. Am now having a wee bit of tummy ache/cramps but don't know if I'm worrying myself into imagining symptoms or if they are real.confused

it took 15 cycles of trying for us to get this lil bean, & am 10+5 today, i can't lose it now. sad

Keep everything crossed for me that things dont get worse overnight.

Penny31 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:45:25

omama try not to worry, it is normal to get a bit of brown discharge. Brown is old blood I think so not a major worry. If you are still worried in the morning, go to the EPU and they will give you a scan for reassurance.

LittlePeaPod Tue 18-Jun-13 21:51:44

Omama really sorry you are worrying but Penny is right brown is old blood. FX it disappears soon but if you are worried call your MW or EPU. There have been lots of ladies that have had brown spotting on the thread and everything turned out alright...

Evening all. After a day of fear because I wasn't feeling so nauseous on the way into work, I felt DREADFUL on the way home grin. It's perverse to find that reassuring, I know.
Booking-in in the morning, am v excited/nervous.

MrsGSR Tue 18-Jun-13 22:12:22

Thinking of everyone who's having scans over the next few days and those who are spotting, fx is nothing, but it's so another worry you don't need!

MrsAVB Tue 18-Jun-13 22:22:24

Congrats on lovely scans everyone! How exciting! sultana we are scan buddies on Friday! I can't believe it's finally time for me to see the bean! And then telling people!
Commiserations to my vom buddies. The three days non-vom seems to have totally changed my vom pattern from 3/4/5/6 average sized voms mainly in the morning to one massive vom after dinner of my entire stomach contents the last couple of days. Nice.
Thanks for the hair removal advice - I think I will have to go for a trim and buy a less revealing swimming costume!
I am hoping to avoid a Facebook announcement. I don't really want any of my scan pics online and would rather just tell people as I see them...
Sweet dreams ladies x

chocoloulou33 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:46:44

omama hope ur ok hun. I had brown spotting at 6 weeks & also got into a panic but was fine. Let us know how ur in morning xx

MrsVDB Wed 19-Jun-13 06:41:52

Talking of announcements, have you seen those awful we're prego ones where they are holding a jar of sauce?! Yeah it says 'prego' but that's just awful!!

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 07:02:34

Penny it's so hard isn't it! My nuchal read 2.0mm and overall results were low risk thankfully! I am 35. Deep breaths - not long until Thursaday (although I bet it feels like an eternity!!!)

omama how are you this morning? Brown blood is old blood - the doctor at the EPU said it can be from as long as two weeks ago. However, you should monitor it and if you experience pain with it or are just worried I would contact your midwife for some reassurance....

Humpty I know exactly what you mean about being reassured by feeling like shite! I am sure I am going to freak out when this nausea finally lifts!

MrsAVB my scan buddy!!! grin I bet you are mega excited! Poor you with your mega vom now. It's just so rough! What time is your scan?

Extra and anyone else with scans today - good luck! xxx

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 07:13:00

Omama hope the spotting has stopped.

Extra, MrsAVN and anyone else good luck with the scans today

Humpty enjoy the booking in.

Sultanajo & Penny how does the 2mm and 2.2mm results work. Sorry to sound dim but what does that mean? I am 37 and dreading scans next week. Also dreading blood results for Edwards and Patua.....

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 07:50:14

Ugh, I know what you mean about the tests. I'm panicking already. My scan is next Thursday. It should have been today until I put it back.

Hope the spotting has settled down, omama.

Good luck with scans, whoever has them today!

I have a real muscular-type pulling pain in my left side, where my hipbone is. It's driving me nuts!

MrsVDB Wed 19-Jun-13 08:09:40

Good luck everyone with scans today smile

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 08:09:53

Toby my main tests/scan s next Thursday too. Thanks for sharing that muscular pulling thing. I have it on my right side just above my hip bone. Hoping its te baby growing. Also I had some lower back pain yesterday.

Vatta Wed 19-Jun-13 08:21:40

LittlePeaPod - after your scan they'll give you a risk rating for downs, which depends partly on the NT measurement but also on various other factors. The NT scan by itself can't tell you the risk, so it's probably best just to wait for the full results.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 08:30:29

Vatta thanks.. Starting to worry about tht now.... When will the worrying end... grin

Frizz1986 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:35:41

Good luck to everyone with any today and hope those with sickness have minimal bouts of it today!

Those with spotting just keep an eye on it and def call if u are worried.

Why am I prodding my boobs so much today. Why are less sore and less hard lumpy boobs a sign for me to become a loon and randomly prod them at my desk. Roll on 1st July to get out of this 1st trimester madness! And onto trimester 2 madness lol.

Frizz1986 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:36:52

Why do I have this inability to write the word scan properly in any of my posts. This time I just missed out the word completely. Good luck again to those with SCANS!

Vatta Wed 19-Jun-13 08:40:39

I suspect we'll be worrying every single day until we have our babies to be honest! I've had anxiety problems in the past so am really trying to stay calm but it's easier said than done.

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 08:50:37

Vatta, you're probably right... Every time I have a good scan and get a bit comfy it takes me less than a week to start stressing again. Tsch.

MrsAVB Wed 19-Jun-13 09:12:14

Good luck with booking in today humpty, hope you have a lovely midwife!
sultana I am 12 noon on fri. You? Counting down the hours. Although I'm kind of convinced something is going to go wrong at some point. If all ok at scan then I will either develop some horrible preggo condition, or have a terrible labour, or something will be wrong at birth. It's not so much that I'm worrying all the time, just that I'm resigned to not being so lucky that everything will go ok. But I think old age has given me a comfortable resignation that whatever shit life throws at me, I will get through it! Girl power lives on hmm!
Have a good day all x

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 09:15:04

I hate to tell you, but the worrying doesn't end! My youngest child is 12 and I still worry.

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 09:59:41

MrsAVB mine is at 9.45am. You sound like me! A couple of my friends have had a really easy time of it and I said to DH "that won't be us - can't see me being that lucky to have a 5 hour labour that just slides out...." If I do it will just be a nice surprise, but if I don't I have prepared myself....

Extra I am the same - I get comfy for about a day after a scan then the worrying starts again!

Pod the measurement is the fluid at the back of the neck. They then combine this with the blood results and your age etc. and you then get your risk result....

Toby yes, the fact that I will never stop worrying about it from this moment on also worries me! grin. No wonder the grey hairs are coming through thick and fast!!!

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:18:59

Good luck to everyonen with appointments comeing up, and fantastic news about scans! My 12 week (where by my calculations I'll be 13) is on 2nd July, I've never wanted time to pass so quickly!!

Me and the oh had a terrible row last night, in which he has accused me of all manner of things, and said that he hopes the baby isn't his. A fantastic start I must say.

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 11:21:47

shock Sarah. Are you ok? What a cock!

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:31:53

Thanks Sultanajo and yes ladies you are right... The worrying is never going to end now.... Ha ha

SarahJayne. I am shocked and applaud that your OH would think that never mind say it. What on gods earth would make him say that? What a nasty twat! How are you? I would be so hurt! flowers and hugs...

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:34:18

So I bought my first baby book as recommended by my SIL who used the tips with her first... It's called 'The New Contented Little Baby Book' by Gina Ford...... smile

I don't think we're allowed to mention GF on Mumsnet pod wink

Sarah what an arse! has he been like that previously or is he freaking out about the baby (not that that is an excuse).

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:37:53

Enjoying really... Why? Is she hated on MN? Ooopppss grin

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 11:48:19

Pod - GF book, just be careful... There's useful stuff you can take from it, but for most people (and their babies) sticking properly to her insane rigid schedules is a recipe for misery or PND! That said, broader points are sensible grin

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:48:40

Thanks so much everyone. I'm not ok in the slightest but there's not much I can do. It's all just so childish, especially when I'd never do anything of the sort and he knows that. And you're right, he is 100% twat, amongst other things!

I don't think it's that he's freaking out, hes just took a tiny argument and completely blown it out of proportion, and started saying things like that.

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 11:49:12

(The woman is a lunatic who's never had her own children so to be taken with a pinch of salt!)

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 11:49:59

Oh Sarah, cross posts - hope he comes home very apologetic and all is sorted xxx

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 11:50:30

Omg and my post in brackets refers to GF, not you!!! Haha

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:55:28

I just googled GF vs MN and read about the lawsuit. Doesn't surprise me as MN can get heated. I must say my SIL stuck to her advice in the book and her little boy who is now three is perfectly well adjusted, loving and has a very close relationship with both his parents... And SIL didnt have PND or get depressed. She swears buy it and is using it with the second baby. I guess it's one of those each to their own situations... Take what you want out of it and leave what you don't want.

Anyone on the hated MN black ball list that I should be aware of? smile

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 11:55:29

Sarah, that doesn't sound good. If he's saying things specifically designed to hurt you, he doesn't sound like a very nice person in general.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:56:30

I didn't think you meant me Extra although it wouldn't be the first time someone called me a lunatic. grin. Ha ha ha

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 11:58:57

I am nt surprised you are nt alright SarahJayne. The is no excuse for that kind of hurtful behaviour...

I think GF is like any parenting method - it will work for some and not others, depending on the personality of the mother and (this is important) the baby. Like extra says, it can lead to feelings of failure when a baby doesn't take to a particular routine or method, but in reality it's just because it doesn't suit them.

Buckets of salt needed! I feel the same way about strict BLW, strict puree weaning, strict attachment parenting etc etc etc. Go with the flow is the best advice, but would make for a very short and vague book.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 12:01:31

That's really sensible Enjoying, do what's right for you and baby... What does BLW stand for? That's a new one for me...

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 12:03:41

BLW = 'Baby-led weaning'.

It's basically what we used to call 'giving the baby some food'.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 12:04:42

Ahhh... Thanks.. First timer!

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 12:07:27

I was wondering that too pod. By the way tried pming and it keeps erroring so will try again later.

sarah what a cock! How dare he! I hope he realises what he has done and comes to his senses! Sending you hugs and a punchbag for stress relief!!!sad

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 12:09:52

I have been concentrating so much on pregnancy books that I havent even thought about when the baby is here! I started looking at antenatal classes yesterday evening which apparently get booked up really quickly, so will get us signed up I think.....that will make it feel more,real! grin

Vatta Wed 19-Jun-13 12:14:25

pod - I'm a first timer too so no actual advice, but there's a mumsnet thread on the books people have found helpful


SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 12:17:02

Thank you again everyone!

I've not bought any books yet, I'm so paranoid I daren't buy anything until the scan, although we had one at 5+ weeks and saw a little heartbeat, I'm just far too superstitious.

Will not be surprised if I cave and get a private scan, even though nhs one is less than 2 weeks away!

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 12:33:27

Thanks ladies and thanks for the link Vatta

Sultanajo have had problems with pm. Tried to respond earlier.

SarahJayne I totally understand where you are coming from. I felt exactly the same and its the first purchase I have made. But I am now 11+1 and I have had 3 scans already so took the plung... But DF and I have agreed no baby staff until after next Thirsday if all ok after next weeks scans.

Frogcatcher Wed 19-Jun-13 12:49:38

Oh sarah that's an awful thing to say. Not excusing him ar all but my DP has also said some hurtful things in the last couple of months when he's more stressed than he's realised about the baby. He's in the doghouse today as he forgot it was my booking in appointment this morning & couldn't come with me as he had a work meeting. I've bought him a book called Pregnancy for Men which will hopefully help him understand what I'm going thru & why I'm so tired & moody.

Frizz1986 Wed 19-Jun-13 12:52:31

Thats awful sarah Sending hugs. I would be so so mad!

I have only got 1 book and I think it's the dummies guide for pregnancy. I only got it as I know I'll have a kid at some point so even if this bean doesn't stay around I'll eventually want something. It only really does a week by week guide for the pregnancy and has some things to think about. Am not too worried about a book for when baby arrives as I plan on just relying on my own thoughts and instincts and advice and thoughts from my mum and sisters. Am sure it will take some trial and error but I'll find something that works.

Dh chose a book too which was a bit of a fun guide to what is going on so hope he feels a bit more involved by having it.

sarahleanne Wed 19-Jun-13 13:04:45

That's bloody awful sarah!! I'm sure he didn't mean it . Hope ur ok.

For ladies on 2nd or 3 rd babies.... Is anyone not very excited about the thought of the amount of stuff you have to buy? I got rid of all my baby stuff and am avoiding buying anything at the moment . Just can't seem to get excited about buying things yet, I just feel like it's money we havnt got and we've been trying so hard to pay off debts and save for a house deposit. God I sound really selfish . Am I the only one who can't b assed to buy things yet?

chocoholicalcoholic Wed 19-Jun-13 13:09:04


Crikey you ladies can talk!

MRSGSR I'm a bit late to the conversation about announcing but as someone whose had children before marriage, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest. Yeah it's a tad sickly but who cares - you're having a baby and can be as sickly as you like! There's no right or wrong way to announce, do what you want to do and enjoy the moment.
We haven't told anyone yet and don't plan to. We are interested to see who dares say anything when the obvious bump appears! I hate the attention of announcement and the interrogation questions that follows as I find it quite a private thing but I understand other women love it.

Buntcadger My midwife said 3rd deliveries tend to be very fast if the 2nd was quick. Guess whose 2nd flew out in just under two hours!? Shitting myself slightly that this one is going to fall out on the school run... What were your previous labours like?

chocoloulou Bless us poor chocos! Well done on a full day at work and minimal vomming yesterday. I have quite a selection of foods that I now know are NOT COOL to throw up. Some fly up quite smoothly, others like bread, pasta, scones HURT and tend to get stuck on the way. Tea is a bitch as is marmite on toast grin. I hope you start to improve very soon. Same to you fellow vom buddy MRSAVB and anyone else struggling. It's horrible and relentless but strangely reassuring isn't it?

Toby Lots of stretching and pain here too the last few days, I kinda like it though, shows things are happening in there!

sultana Hugs for your bad day yesterday, hope today is better.

enjoying and extra hope your DS are feeling better and that you don't catch it!

FX for scans coming up today and this week.

Excellent news for those of you who've had lovely scans, very jealous!

So glad some of you on 3rd pregnancies are chubby! I feel so conscious of it especially as we haven't told anyone yet. I'm normally a size 6/8 so the bulge is really obvious, well to me anyway. Argh!

Have a good day smile

Gabbyj Wed 19-Jun-13 13:15:18

Hi all. Excellent news on all the lovely scan results! Mine seems an age away...

Still enjoying the constant nausea - I must admit that I do find it quite reassuring though! Struggling to keep awake at my desk! Fun times!

Sarah - hope that your dp recovers his senses very soon xxx

chocoholicalcoholic Wed 19-Jun-13 13:16:09

sarahleanne I hear you. We got rid of everything baby related so it's back to square one buying it all again this time. It does feel like a huge expense. They need so much for such tiny babies! We plan on looking secondhand on some things or borrowing from friends/family. If we buy something new we know we can sell it again after to ease the cost a bit. At least third time round we know what products are pointless and what to avoid buying!

sarah your DH needs a good kick in the goolies. What a prat. I'm sorry he was so hurtful.

Booking in went v well - lovely LOVELY midwife, the Royal London's antenatal unit is shiny and new and lovely, i have my notes and Bounty pack and I'm eligible to consider the Barkantine MLU for birth, hoorah!
Scan is 2nd July - only 13 days away!!!

Oh, and I vommed for the first time this morning. Apparently I am going to systematically experience ALL the joys of pregnancy. I can't wait for the excess body hair and swollen feet ones. hmm

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 13:56:15

Thanks chocoholic - today has indeed been a bit better so far - it was definitely shit yesterday but I think hormones made it even worse and pushed me over the edge!

Well today so far I haven't felt perfect, but have felt better than I have for a while and have also eaten a small amount of pasta which I haven't done for AGES because it normally makes me heave. Sooo, without jinxing myself and worrying that it means something is wrong perhaps I may be coming out the other side finally? It's probably just today and by tonight I will be feeling like shit again, but I am feeling a tiny glimmer of hope along with the obvious panic! OMG!

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 13:57:38

Yeay! Great stuff Humpty (not about the vomming) but exciting you have a lovely midwife and the location of your choice! Woop woop! Only 13 days until your scan too - it's all happening!!! grin

Oh, and I have lost 4kg since my GPs appointment 5 weeks ago... Which isn't to say I couldn't lose another fourty but still! MW said not to lose any more. Easier said than done - i managed half a salad (no carbs) at lunch. Half. Of things made mainly of water, FFS.

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 13:59:01

Meant to say - thanks for the link Vatta. Will dip into that when I get a sec...

sultana sounds like your placenta is taking over! Pasta! Yay! I know what you mean - WAY too heavy at the moment. I hope this is the turning point for you - where are you up to?

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 14:00:14

Arghhh humpty! It's so hard isn't it and I have been thinking "why couldn't I have eaten like this BEFORE I got preggers - would have been super skinny by now!!!" wink

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 14:01:15

Humpty, unless they change my dates AGAIN on Friday then I should be 12+3 today. Can't actually believe it! So happy to have made it this far this time....

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 14:06:00

Thanks Humpty. I've completely cut him off as it stands, Its hard to just blank him but he needs a taste of his own medicine. Looks like I'm finally growing some balls... Possibly literally if it's a boy!

Taking my little cousin on a girly day soon, I say little she is 17! Sure it will keep my mind occupied for a few hrs at least.

Out of interest where is everyone from? I remember a London majority a few threads back?

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 14:21:00

I am in Yorkshire SarahJayne

Great to her yor feling better Sultanajo. FX this is the start of the glowing trimester or you....

Humpty lovey to her you had a great booking in session.

sultana I know - easiest diet EVER. No desire to eat, certainly no desire for much apart from fruit, salad, crunchy veg and salt and vinegar crisps.

Sarah glad to hear it, he deserves it. I hope you have a fab girly day out!
I'm London (East).

Rubberstamp Wed 19-Jun-13 14:29:19

Hello all - just saying hello. Due 1st jan by dates. Had nuchal on Monday and everything looked fine with very small measurement but have to wait for bloods. That dated me a little earlier but apparently they don't change it where I am, so still due 1/1.
Structurally everything looked ok which is good as last time had to have a termination after the 12 week scan because of incompatible with life prognosis. Bizarrely didn't really worry about it too much - these things happen but this time I get lots of extra scans because it could happen again, 1 in 4 risk.
Next scan at 16 weeks so hopefully all still be good then.
Good luck everyone.

I found you all! Yey!

I dropped of the planet for this thread, when it gets really big it takes ages to load on my phone and I didn't have my laptop for a while smile

Today I realised I couldn't have coffee. It made me sick sad I love Coffee! I'm also counting to my scan, 2 weeks on Saturday smile

I also seem to eating loads of sweets. I'm a crisp person normally, and I've not been bothered with them, but haribo type sweets are amazing!

alteredimages Wed 19-Jun-13 14:43:29

Wow! Up to 200 messages all ready! You guys can really talk. grin

Hope everyone is having a happy Wednesday.

sarahleanne I have no baby stuff from DD so will be buying a minimum of stuff second hand. Husband has nixed putting baby to sleep in a cardboard box, so will have to buy a Moses basket. Also looking to buy a sling, nappies and clothes. Think that's it. Baby can have a bath in the sink, old towels will do in place of muslin squares. Flat is on the third floor with a narrow spiral staircase so a buggy would be useless and we don't have a car. Might get a carrycot to take baby home in. Will buy a new mattress for the moses basket and a couple of sheets and blankets. Hoping to keep total spend under €250. I learned having dd abroad how little of what we regard as essential is actually necessary and in any case will be moving continents when baby is about 6 months so will have to leave most things behind anyway.

I wouldn't buy anything new except for car seats and mattresses. And breast pumps and bottles but hopefully won't need any. I am completely shameless about accepting/soliciting hand me downs. It's amazing what people have lying around that they don't want any more. I don't understand how babies have become so expensive since we were young!

Vatta Wed 19-Jun-13 14:58:40

Hi sarahjayne I'm in east London

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 15:10:49

Hi all,

I'm a newbie here as my EDD was moved today, following an early scan (due to previous ectopic last October). My EDD is now 24 Jan, though I'm expecting an early arrival, as my first arrived at 37+1 and 36+1.

Booking in appointment is next Wednesday and I guess scan will be in around mid July.

MrsAVB Wed 19-Jun-13 15:54:43

Welcome and congrats rubber and apparently!
sarah I think your "D"P warrants reuse of COCKWOMBLE and CUNTPUFFIN!
humpty glad your midwife was lovely, exciting stuff!
Altered I found your post really interesting. We also don't have a car and live up two flights of stairs so I've been saying to DH - do we really need a buggy/ pram and car seat? Did you manage without for your first? And totally agree re. getting as much as possible second hand, there's no way I'm spending more than necessary!

MrsAVB Wed 19-Jun-13 15:55:12

Oh and I'm in SE London.

enormouse Wed 19-Jun-13 15:55:27

alteredimages really admire your controlled approach. I will try and follow your teachings and not be seduced by the mothercare catalogue.

apparently hi and welcome. My edd is provisionally the 24th but might change when I go for my booking appointment/scan. I'm expecting a late arrival, went almost 2 weeks over with DS. I'm hoping the baby might arrive on my DPs birthday (31st)

is anyone else having lower back pain? I've been suffering with it since last night but I'm not sure what to do. Is it a bad sign?

Hope everyone's having a good day x.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 16:06:00

Welcome and congratulations to all the new ladies flowers

enormous I have had lower back pain and the stretchy pains in my uterus. I think it's all growing pains.... grin

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 16:08:58

has anyone else been utterly exhausted, only for it to improve? My DH says I was pooped throughout with both of ours, but I'm hoping against hope that things improve....

MrsGSR Wed 19-Jun-13 16:11:59

enormouse I've had some lower back pain, mostly in the few week weeks but it comes and goes. I have a bad back anyway due to a childhood accident so I might not be typical!

SarahJ I hope your OH realises he was out of order and starts to spoil you!

Talking about buying baby stuff, I've made a list of the essentials and then we're buying them as and when we find them on sale! We got a moses basket for £14 new from asda, we weren't planning on getting anything this early but couldn't resist! We're keeping it in its plastic wrapper and figure if we don't use it we could probably sell it on without losing any money.

MrsGSR Wed 19-Jun-13 16:13:13

apparently I really hope it improves! I'm having to have a nap each afternoon and when I'm awake I'm completely useless!

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 16:17:27

MrsGSR- with my DD (who is 4.5), I clearly remember feeling great in my 2nd trimester and even the beginning of my third trimester (up till about 30 weeks), and even enjoying weddings (we had about 4 that year while I was pg), as long as I got to bed by midnight (ha! These days 10pm is an achievement!). With DS, I don't remember enjoying pregnancy- I just remember being exhausted the whole time and feeling awful.

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 16:19:16

Been a while since I posted, thanks to all the ladies kind words re clutch-gate (thread 4) that driving instructor has been replaced.

Had an awful last few days. Tried to get a GP appointment on Monday as I fainted in the morning - called in work sick. Got one for later in the day and the useless knobjockey DR told me and DP that this was something that was just normal with ms. I had not managed to keep any food or water down all weekend and and could barely walk. He gave me some anti sickness tablets the appointment lasted for about 2 minutes!!. Got a taxi home - GPs is a 5 min walk from the house. sad

So I'm back home and I fainted again. DP called ambulance and they were great. Took blood sugar, and some other tests - I think a heart trace. Taken to hospital where after a urine sample was told I was severely dehydrated and suffering with hyperemesis. After several tests I was put on two bags of drips for about 3 hours! Doctor said food wasn't the upmost importance for me but water DEFO was. The meds I have been given make me drowsy and I'm likely to be off work for the next few weeks.

Called the school and spoke to the Head about the pregnancy. I know she doesn't need to know now as such but the school's going through major staffing issues and she's been soo supportive previously. Told me kids were blessings and I should rest up and get better.

Feeling a bit better but woosy. Anyone else really suffering? Or better yet - felt totally let down by their GP???

Right need to catch up on thread 5 x smile

curlywurlyllass Wed 19-Jun-13 16:21:12

mrsavp u took the words right out my mouth about sarahjayne's man.... cuntpuffin seems appropriate!

enormous back pain here, along with that hip pain others were talking of having. Im quite glad as the last few days ive been para my symptoms were non exsistent....

fryingpan my work have a sweetie jar filled to the brim with haribo and aero bubbles chocs mmmmm its horrendus walking by it all the time occasionally dipping my fat wee hand in it

Im in scotland (west) and struggling with the midgies already, roll on wintertime smile

Not bought a thing yet- terrified of jinxing things, might feel less anxious by january and start looking around then lol but when i do im thinking like altered i would have thought a cardboard box cot an excellent sleeping solution... But i suppose there are health and safety issues!

Hi apparently

Congrats to all those with positive scans and appointments, hope they continue


enormouse Wed 19-Jun-13 16:23:58

Thanks pod and MrsGSR I have quite a bad back anyway. Still hefting around a non walking toddler so it's probably that with stretching pains. If it gets worse/lasts I'll get it checked with the gp.

apparently I am absolutely shattered. I don't remember being as bad during my pregnancy with DS. I thought I'd be fine again (more fool me) but it's completely different this time.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 16:24:46

Apparently I have been exhausted since 5 weeks and still exhausted at 11+1.... MW has told me at past appointments that for most women, ms/tiredness etc. start to disappear in the second trimester (which we all know). But she said the reason is the high levels of pregnancy hormones which contribute to sickness and tiredness start to diminish. The higher your levels the worse you feel.

curlywurlyllass Wed 19-Jun-13 16:26:01

yorkie thats awful! Hope u feel better asap x

enormouse Wed 19-Jun-13 16:29:24

For all advocates of babies in boxes (myself included!)

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 16:32:00

Yorkie sorry to hear that. I have HG and have spent time in hospital and its awful. Your dr sounds like a total dick... The meds do help even though you feel tired....

Expectans Wed 19-Jun-13 16:33:03

Hi all! Can I join you?

Just had my first scan today, and all is well, so finally I thought I can join in (lurking for a while!).

I can't believe I'm actually having a baby! (My first) It was jumping around on the scan - weird that I couldn't feel anything.


Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 16:33:41

Welcome Rubber - that's so great for you this time! So pleased for you!

Frying glad you found us! Last time Haribo was all that helped me but this time I can't go near them...

Altered the trouble is (especially for a first timer) everything looks so tempting and cute! I KNOW I will end up with crap I don't need, despite me being determined not to. When I see it all I am sure I will just melt.....so weak!!! However, I am going to be as sensible as I possibly can - not getting baby baths or anything like that (she says now.....) wink

Welcome Apparently! Congratulations!!! Yup - struggling big time this afternoon! Still got 3 hours of work after my break! MUST STAY AWAKE!!!

Yorkie OMG! Your GP IS a knobjockey! That's unbelievably negligent! Talk about assuming and not paying attention! Thank goodness you go the treatment you needed! Bless you! Not surprised you are feeling rough now!

Well I definitely spoke too soon earlier (just flippin knew it) but I guess at least a few hours of feeling better is better than nothing. Back to mega nausea and unbelievably exhausted! Doh! blush

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 16:35:43

Welcome Expectans and huge congratulations. So great to see how excited you are! It's incredible isn't it and really weird that you can't feel the active little monkey leaping about inside! Some days I still wonder if it's real, despite having had scans and feeling like shite! wink

Penny31 Wed 19-Jun-13 16:37:41

Wow busy today ladies! I will catch up properly later but I'm looking for help. I'm so confused about my EDD.

So the first day of my last cycle was 24th march. I had an unusually long cycle that month and period was a week late. My ovulation stick was positive on the 4th April. Based on these facts I thought my EDD was 28th December.

Yesterday at my twelve week scan they said I am 13+4 and I thought I was 12+2. They have out my EDD as 20th December. But this means I conceived before my last period.

My head hurts!!!

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 16:39:21

Sarah - I'm the same re buying stuff. Not if I can help it!! Hope you're feeling ok.

I'm in West London.

Scan was fine! Wriggly little one with good hb now dated 26/12 (!!) no obvious cause for blood. Woo hoo!

Penny31 Wed 19-Jun-13 16:39:56

Ps my baby was not active on the scan, midwife made me cough to make it move! Lazy bugger. Hope its nothing to worry about.

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 16:43:07

Ummmmm, Penny I can't figure it out....hopefully someone on here can....

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 16:43:30

Penny - could last "period" have been implantation bleed? Dates on scan are better indicators than LMP generally but still might change at next one! Mine were changed 3 times last pregnancy, then DS arrived 3 weeks early weighing just under 10lb so they must have got something wrong... (Either that or I'm going to have to squeeze out a 12lber if I carry to term this time. Eek.)

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 16:44:17

ps I'm in West Yorkshire.

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 16:44:19

Penny they aren't active all the time so perhaps you caught it having a nap!!!?

Extra that's great news! What a relief!!!

extracrunchy Wed 19-Jun-13 16:44:56

Ooh and welcome Expectans and Apparently! grin

Penny31 Wed 19-Jun-13 16:46:12

Hmmm maybe it was having a nap I guess awwww.

My period was pretty heavy so could it really be implantation!?? So strange. Maybe we have an extra huge baby!

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 16:47:23

Apparently there re a few of us on here from Yorkshire.. Well there was a few threads back... grin

Expectans Wed 19-Jun-13 16:52:18

Penny31, no it doesn't (I think, anyway). Because they add on 2 weeks so your baby is already 2 weeks old when it is conceived, it means actually if you are 13+4 you conceived on about the 6th April. You can't have conceived before your last period.

Congratulations on your scan!

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 16:58:19

Welcome Expectans - Congrats on your news

Thanks Curley, Sultanajo and Pea I'm relatively new in the West Yorkshire region (originally from SE London) but this and other issues with the GP has made me wonder about down south....

Has anyone felt any weird vibrations in their bumps? I swear I have today DP thinks its gas - but I'm convinced its baby flutters!!! I'm only 10+3!

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 17:00:15

Hey Yorkie and LittlePea- waves across W Yorkshire. I'm about 15 miles outside Leeds- where are you?

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:04:00

Yorkie welcome to Yorkshire. I moved here about 15 years ago. I am in West Yorkshire too. You may be interested in this. I have applied and got a place. A friend is on it and she says the MW are brilliant. It's a trail the NHS are doing for one to one MW services for pregnant women. You get to see MW as often or as little as you want. Plus they come to your house anytime from 8am till 8pm.... This is in adition to the MW via your GP. Have a look..


LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:05:55

Apparently I work between Leeds (City) and Manchester. I am about 30mins outside Leeds...

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:06:37

Apparently you may want to check this out too.


Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 17:08:36

Thanks LittlePea.

And I meant to say welcome to Yorkshire too Yorkie. I moved from East London 6 years ago, before having DD. It was a bit of a culture shock from Hackney, but we're all happy and v settled now.

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 17:12:13

Hey Apparently and Pea I'm on the cusp of Halifax and Bradford. More Bradford lol. Its different up here - still getting used to it...

Pea I was told about one to one before and emailed. Got an email back to say that funding was cut in my area and it was no longer being commissioned around here... sad

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 17:13:54

Aww Apparently I moved in September to teach up here and be with DP. Lived in Waterloo - which I miss alot sad

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:18:52

Ohh sorry about the funding.... Yorkie

I am on the outskirts of Huddersfield... Just off junction 24.... Easy access to Manchester and Leeds for work. grin

I don't know Bradford that well but coming from London I am not surprised its a shock to the system... wink

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 17:20:32

I'm on the north of Leeds and Bradford. Yorkie- having DD was the thing that settled us in Yorkshire- till then we talked fairly regularly about moving "home" to London and for ages I got homesick for London when we visited. But now I love Yorkshire and wouldn't live in London again (not dissing anyone else's choices- I've just learnt to appreciate the good things about Yorkshire and no longer get the things I used to love about E8). Have you joined an ante-natal class? We made lovely friends through NCT, who we're still in touch with.

MrsGSR Wed 19-Jun-13 17:31:08

yorkie sorry your feeling rubbish, and that you have a crap GP! Glad to hear you got rid of the driving instructor though.

I'm in West Midlands, I think it's just me around here!

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 17:37:00

Hmm maybe I'll be a little more settled when babbie makes an appearance. Most of my family and friends still live in London so I do go down and catch up every once in a while. smile
No -I haven't joined an ante-natal class but then again I haven't even had my mid wife appt yet. Its a booking appointment with no scan!!! Boo impatience. ..grr

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 17:38:54

My experience is that they get booked up early, so if you're confident of your dates, I'd start to make enquiries about availability.

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:43:29

Thanks Apparently I am going to look at NCT now...

Yorkie how many weeks are you?

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 17:44:05

cool i'll look into it - thanks apparently x

LittlePeaPod Wed 19-Jun-13 17:46:58

Yorkie not sure when you moved here but if you need tips on anything Yorkshire (places etc.) just give us a shout. I am sure we will happily help.. smile. I remember what it was like moving to a new city and not really knowing anyone.... [smie]

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 18:05:01

Yy to what littlepea said.

sarahleanne Wed 19-Jun-13 18:19:05

I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't frantically rushing out to buy new things then, phew! That's made me feel better smile

sarah I'm not buying much - three bras (essential as boobs are GINORMOUS) and a pair of mat jeans. I have had the free Aptaclub polar bear toy and the free Cow & Gate fuzzy cow, but they don't count. I plan to buy something small and cute if 12 week scan is okay.
Otherwise, 2nd hand all the way. I am already compiling mental lists of who will not need newborn stuff so I can borrow! No sense spending on stuff they won't remember/wear for long/use - I'll save that for something like upgrading our first family holiday/flights etc, much more useful IMO.

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 19:21:23

Thanks mrs GSR yeah a proper idiot doc. I used to live in Coventry in the west mids too x

Cheers pea and apparently. I do need to get out and explore a bit more x

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 19:22:32

Thanks mrs GSR yeah a proper idiot doc. I used to live in Coventry in the west mids too x

Cheers pea and apparently. I do need to get out and explore a bit more x

Yorkiedodah Wed 19-Jun-13 19:28:27

sorry about double post....envy envy using mobile

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 20:33:47

Wont be rushing out to buy at this stage - will crack on after the 20 week scan - cant wait! Lots of people have said they have things they can lend us, such as moses baskets, so feel very lucky that we wont need to buy that much. grin What we need and what I want are two separate matters tho! wink

Sneezed a few times just now and now noticing some intermittent sharp pains in my lower abdo by my pubic bone, but am sure its normal stretching or something. Always something to worry about! shock Its now reassuring that I feel like shite! wink

My dreamgenii pillow arrived today so looking forward to trying that tonight! grin

enormouse Wed 19-Jun-13 20:35:41

Let us know how you get on with the pillow please sultanajo. I want one myself but unsure whether to go for it.

omama Wed 19-Jun-13 20:40:36

Thanks for asking after me this morning everyone. No bleeding overnight but had a bit more this aft, although its still brown & only when I wipe. However been bit crampy too, so been to see gp at teatime bc i can't stop worrying that something is wrong.

She's gonna check my hcg tomorrow & friday & has referred me to EPU but earliest they can see me is monday, so its a waiting game til then.x

Toothfairy78 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:41:27

Evening all, am I the only one hailing from Berkshire then?

I'm in Langley near Slough...somebody has to!

SarahJ shame about what your DP said. What a dick! Has he calmed down yet and said sorry yet?

No tooth. I'm Berkshire too, in newbury. Originally Northumbrian though, hence the lack of ready babysitters.

Toothfairy78 Wed 19-Jun-13 21:03:47

enjoyingscience excellent to hear! I grew up in Norfolk so same issue as you, no ready babysitters too!

In other news I just emailed by karate instructor to tell him I'm preggers and is it OK to carry on training? Sort of neglected to mention I'm 11 and a bit weeks and have been getting away with it for a while. There's hardly time to talk before class hence the email. I wonder what he'll say? I feel like I did something naughty!

alteredimages Wed 19-Jun-13 21:09:09

MrsAVB I'm afraid I cheated with DD because I was in Egypt where there isn't nearly as much baby stuff and no maternity clothes/nursing bras. I also wear a headscarf and loose clothes so it was only the last month I was down to my last two blouses really. People also sent lots of clothes from the UK and good quality cotton is cheap there, though apt to have comically bad English on it. I once saw a toddler wearing a t shirt with "pussy magnet" written on it, with a picture of a cat and a magnet. hmm

This time not succumbing to baby buys is mostly because we'll be in a tiny flat in paris and can't spare the cash. I do feel better though knowing that things really are perfectly fine without the extra stuff. We also travel a lot so it isn't practical to have lots of stuff anyway.

Having not bought anything nice for DD when she was small I will be splashing out on this however. Will try to find one second hand, but I love it and it's totally impractical to transport but I don't care!

Trousselier Magic Lantern

sultana will be interested to know how the dream genii works too. Hope it's dreamy grin

tooth I'm sure he'll say it's fine, unless anyone kicks you in the abdomen? Aren't you basically allowed to carry on whatever exercise, with caution, if you already do it?

enjoying I went to school in Newbury!

omama fx for you that it's old blood/cervical erosion. What do you think your dates are? Are the cramps mild, if so, I've had those - I think they were all fine. Sever cramps are the things to worry about apparently, and I remember from mc'ing before that you can't mistake the pain, it's not 'niggly' at ALL. You know, honestly. HTH.

bugsyburge Wed 19-Jun-13 21:19:26

hello all, would you mind if I join you?
I thought I was a February child but Dr thinks I'm more likely a January but will confirm at my first scan....

thought I'd get the prep in early though & join you all now so I know what I'm letting myself in for grin

its lovely hearing about you all having your scans, I have my midwife appt on July 2nd so my first scan will be a while off yet

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 21:23:47

omama well its great they are referring you (although the wait is always stressful)! Sorry you are going thru this but hopefully its nothing to worry about. I had very similar symptoms for ten days from 8 weeks and things were ok. Will be thinking of you....

enormouse & humpty I will indeed update on the hopefully dreamy sleep I am about to have. I tried it briefly earlier and it felt quite comfy, so fingers crossed! Its particularly hot tonight so it will be a good night to test - if it works tonight then it should work on any night....grin

bugsyburge Wed 19-Jun-13 21:24:35

ps mtsgsr I'm in west midlands (waves!!!!!)

Sultanajo Wed 19-Jun-13 21:24:37

Congratulations bugsy & welcome aboard!

Apparentlychilled Wed 19-Jun-13 21:29:44

Hi bugsy I've just joined from the Feb thread too! [waves]

MrsGSR Wed 19-Jun-13 21:44:10

Welcome bugsy smile glad I'm not the only one around here!

sultanajo I'm another one considering buying a magic pillow to help me sleep, will be very interested in your opinion of yours smile

bugsyburge Wed 19-Jun-13 21:50:28

mrsgsr I seem to have given you a new name

thanks for the welcome, I am absolutely knackered, in bed already!!!!!

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:02:20

Hope you're all well, and not too vommy. Just the once for me this evening.

With regards to him, he's decided that I'm all the terrible things you could think of, and that he wants nothing to do with me. He's ended our relationship completely. Needless to say I'm devastated, but I've tried even after what he said and he's doing nothing but ignoring me. Says he wants to be there for the baby, to which I said that's fine but he cannot just walk in and out of my/our lives when he chooses.

Sorry for the depressiveness!

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:03:07

Oh and welcome to everyone!

enormouse Wed 19-Jun-13 22:18:54

sarahjayne flowers and hugs. We're always here if you need a chat. Make sure you get plenty of rl support.

sarahJ God I'm so sorry to hear this. You poor love. Do you have anyone nearby you can talk to irl? What can we do? Take care of yourself.

Penny31 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:21:32

expectans thanks for clarifying, how have I been so thick! I seriously couldn't work it out!

Penny31 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:23:02

sarahjayne I'm so sorry. Are your family nearby? We are all here for you xx

SarahJayne321 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:27:35

Thank you so much guys. Yeah I'm staying at my mums, stupid as it sounds I just wish I was with him. Love eh!

TobyLerone Wed 19-Jun-13 22:30:04

Sarah, horrible as it seems to you now, it sounds to me like this is the best possible outcome. He sounds like a nasty piece of work and you're well shot of him.
I'm sorry you're having to deal with this sad

sarah you poor thing. I hope your mum's giving you lots of love!

Like Toby says, it's better he's shown his true, shitty colours now, rather than when you're much further along or when baby is here. You really are best rid, what sort of a dick treats people like that? (answer: massive ones)

Toothfairy78 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:41:50

SarahJ sorry to hear that, but you'd be better off without that kind of toxic attitude around you right now. Let's hope things improve for you now.

extracrunchy Thu 20-Jun-13 00:00:21

Sarah so sorry to hear that. What a bastard... Like others have said though, better now. Hope you're holding up.

Omama fingers firmly crossed for you. I also had a similar experience and all is well, so I'm hopeful for you!

Sultanajo I expect a full report on the pillow in the morning! Hope it's lovely...

Bugsy - welcome! smile

sarahleanne Thu 20-Jun-13 03:05:38

Hi ladies, it's 3am and I've been up for an hour now with really painful stomach cramps and bleeding. Light pinkish bleeding but a fair amount. I blead with other pregnancies a bit but never had cramps like this before . So worried. I've took tablets and have got a heated wheat pillow on my belly but nothing is easing the pain and I've been doubled over in agony in and off . The pain was so bad it actually woke me up. I've no idea how to contact my epu in the morning or a number for midwife when she's not in the office and I'm pretty sure she's only there Mondays and Wednesdays. Really hoping things are ok with baby, I only saw the heartbeat 2 days ago , really hoping it doesn't all go wrong at this stage.

Sarahleanne id just go to a&e. Because your bleeding and in pain they'll want to see you anyway. So just go in hun x

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 05:56:33

Oh, you poor thing. Is your EPU at your local hospital? Call the switchboard and get them to put you through, if so. If you have a mobile no for your midwife, you could call it anyway. If she's like mine, she's only in the surgery 1 day a week, but she's still working the other days.

LittlePeaPod Thu 20-Jun-13 06:20:57

SarahJayne. I am just catching up. I am so sorry to hear your news. Go straight go A&E they will see you because you are bleeding and you are in pain. flowers

With regards your OH, I am sorry to hear the news. The other ladies are right, you are better off without him. Any man that can say the things his said to you is not the sort of influence you need in your life. There is no justification on earth to what he said about the baby. I know it's really painful and I hope you are doing as well as can be under the circumstances....

Sultanajo pillow report please. smile

Welcome and congratulations to all the new ladies flowers

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 07:53:08

SarahJ you poor lass! What a total cuntpuffin! As the others have said, much better you find out now and get yourself sorted out, but it's going to be a stress when it comes to sorting out access etc. Soooo what it shouldn't be like - talk about taking away the excitement from you! So pleased you have your Mum there with you. If we can help in any way, even if it's just to be an ear to bend, just let us know. xxx

SarahL really hope you popped yourself down to A & E. Am thinking of you - hope you are OK. flowers

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 08:01:47

OK, after popular demand wink here is the Dreamgenii Pillow first night update! grin

Well after a sweat filled night (my god how hot and humid was it???) and a morning of nightmares about the world tipping and having to climb cliffs to get away from the rising sea and sharks (OMFG!!!) so far the pillow has been positive. I had to chuck it half way through the night because I was just too hot and couldn't cope with anything touching me, but when I was using it it was really comfy and felt supportive lying on my side. smile

So far so good. I am going to sleep downstairs on the sofa tonight (where it is about 10 degrees cooler) and try it again and hopefully will be able to keep it with me all night.

It was certainly a massive improvement on the Mum E Pillow I bought a while ago, which is HUGE and bulky and took over the whole bed and gave me neck ache!!!

Will update again tomorrow after hopefully a cooler night's sleep....

Frizz1986 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:42:49

sarahj that's a pretty s@#t deal, but the others are right, if he's gonna be like that life will better without him. You don't want to be dealing with 2 babies in the new year!

sarahl hope you got seen and all is ok. I wish they told told how common things like this were right at the start.

On another note I am loving nectarines at the moment. I am not really a fruit person either but they are delish.
My food today at work currently consists of: rice krispies, 2 nectarines, a vanilla yoghurt, a bread roll, some marinated artichokes and an innocent noodle pot. Plus the selection of bourbons and digestives in my bag. Hoping that i will still want to eat it come lunch. Def find I feel less sick if i continuously eat, but that means that the podge is def growing. Can't wait until I can blame my belly on a baby!

Frizz1986 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:53:38

Oh and I am loving chocolate milk. It's like I have turned into a kid lol. For some reason a cloud has lifted this morning and am even feeling happy through the nausea. Maybe it's just because it's only 11 days until the scan!
Really hope everyone else is perking up slowly.

MrsVDB Thu 20-Jun-13 09:03:39

sarah pregnancy can be stressful and confusing for me too. As my dh has proved they can say some pretty nasty things as they don't understand what we are going through. I bought mine a pregnancy for men booked and it has really helped ( he now doesn't even mention it if I only have Doritos for dinner!). But he sounds like he's gone too far in my opinion. Hope you're ok.

sarahl I couldn't find epu details on hospital page so googled it and got the details that way. I'd definitely recommend popping in, just to give you reassurance.

Right ladies I need your help please. I have a black tie work do to go to next week and have been so worried about how to not drink I'd not even thought about the menu (3 courses and will be fancy). Now they have asked about dietary requirements and I can't really say no soft cheese, no rare meat etc and list everything out. Would it be easier to just say I'm pregnant? If so ill have to tell the lady at the company who's hosting as she's sorting it out...

bugsyburge Thu 20-Jun-13 09:09:23

oh the sickness has begun.....envy

extracrunchy Thu 20-Jun-13 09:21:15

MrsV how far along are you now?

SarahL did you go to A&E? Hope you're ok. Thinking of you!

SarahJ hope you have a better day today. Glad you've got your mum around!

extracrunchy Thu 20-Jun-13 09:21:42

Bugsy bleurgh poor you! Good sign though - strong baby grin

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 09:27:01

MrsV, you could just say you don't eat cheese or meat.

chocoloulou33 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:29:52

Hi everyone just checking in saying hello. My phone rly playing up & can't read all the other posts. They are all muddled. But sending hugs to those who need it xx
Breaking news, I wasn't sick yesterday!!!! First day in weeks. Is this the start of me feeling better?! Still feeling sick & rough but hey an improvement. Let's hope it lasts! Am 11 & half weeks now smile x

sarahleanne Thu 20-Jun-13 09:32:10

Hi everyone, thanks for messages. I rang epu and apparently I can't self refer so am waiting for a call from the doctor, which will probably take all day. Still no change with me either. Will let you all know how I get on later.

Vatta Thu 20-Jun-13 09:45:54

Sarahleanne - to be honest I would just go to a and e. If you're in pain and bleeding they can check you out. I've had a little bit of bleeding the last couple of days, and been advised that if it gets heavy or I get cramps I should go to a and e.

Vatta Thu 20-Jun-13 10:02:19

MrsV - I think just say no meat, no dairy - that should cover you. If anybody queries it you can just say you're on a health kick.

Expectans Thu 20-Jun-13 10:11:11

SarahJ, I was in a similar position. My thinking was that the worse-case scenario would be me on my own with my lovely baby, with my mum to help. Which actually is not so very bad. Thinking like that really helped me, as it made me see that the only person who would lose out would be him, and that I could be strong enough for my baby on my own. Hope you feel better soon!

MrsV, I am pretty certain that you will be safe from rare meat at a big work do. Even if it is a roast, you can always ask for the bits from the end which will be well-done. It is really hard to serve rare meat to large groups. Any chance you could get the menu ahead of time from the venue just to see? The one possible problem might be a pate starter, because you shouldn't eat a veggie one either. As to not drinking, carry a glass around with you but just do not drink it - most people are really unobservant, then make sure you have something to actually drink on the table.

sarahleanne Thu 20-Jun-13 10:19:53

Epu won't scan me so soon after my scan on Tuesday so I've been booked in for another scan on Tuesday. They said they have to leave a week between scans so they can tell if the baby is growing as it should be . Thanks for all your support, I'm staying positive xx

SarahL I think go to A&E too - if it's nothing, they won't mind, and if it's something they need to treat, better you're there. I shall think of you all day and hope everything is okay.

MrsV I'd go for veggie options (even if it's, e.g. goat's cheese, it should hopefully be cooked, so fine). And yy to carrying a wine glass about, but sipping water/softs. If it's even vaguely warm you can pretend you're hot/dehydrated if you have to order more water/something soft. Good luck

sultana pillow sounds ace, but it was horrifically muggy last night. I woke up all cross from being hot and sweaty.

choco yay! Maybe this is the placenta kicking in? Hope so!

No more puking (yet?!) today, and less nausea, but still feel off, so not worried much. Appalling hayfever though. Miserable.

I would just let the lady know you're pregnant, but that it's early and you don't want to broadcast it. Caterers we work with know well what's safe and not, so it's easier than giving them a long list. Alternatively, going vegan for the night might be interesting!

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 10:43:44

Humpty, you could try Prevalin for your hayfever. It's new and it is antihistamine- and steroid-free and is safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding. The DC are using it and say it's definitely working. I'm not finding mine too bad at the moment as long as I steer clear of grass being cut etc, but I managed to get some BOGOF in Sainsbury's so I've got one in the drawer in case smile

alteredimages Thu 20-Jun-13 10:50:57

SarahJayne I'm sorry you're in this crap position and I'm sure it feels like the worst possible timing. flowers I would however echo other posters in saying that you don't need his instability and antics in your life an especially not when your kid is involved. From experience, emotional abusers are great at using their relationship with children and extended family to make you the bad guy. However much you love him, don't give him this leverage. If in the end you do get back together then it has to be on your terms.

Sarahleanne if you're in pain please do get checked out at a&e. You shouldn't have to put up with being in pain and anxious for days.

Vatta Thu 20-Jun-13 11:00:33

toby thank you so much for the prevalin tip, I get terrible hayfever (usually on prescription extra-strong antihistamines) and am really struggling at the moment without my normal drugs! Have just ordered some, will report back for anybody else struggling!

toby thank you! I shall go to Boots at lunchtime and find some. Oh my, the idea of not sniffling is BLISS! Also the sneezing. Gah.

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 11:27:33

DD says it makes her a bit more snotty for a while afterwards (because you squirt it up your nose), but it had a definite effect on her yesterday. She got home from school and her eyes were streaming, she was sneezing, her throat was itching and she was all rashy on her arms. By about an hour after she'd used the spray, she was feeling much better.

Worth a go, anyway smile

Madratlady Thu 20-Jun-13 11:55:38

13 pages into thread 5 already? wow I'll never catch up with what's happening with everyone!

I've just had my booking in appointment and have been told I have to have shared care with a consultant as well as the midwife and will need extra scans because I have a low BMI so I'm at risk of having a low birth weight baby. I'm taking that as a green light to eat whatever I want!

Sorry to hear about everyone suffering with hay fever, this heat is exhausting even without that!

bebsy75 Thu 20-Jun-13 12:31:26

I'm here. Feeling a lot better now and have 3 sick-free days. Woohooooooo! Needless to say that has set me off on a worryfest about the babe being OK. Hopefully it's just hormones levelling off. Am 11 weeks. I think! Desperate for the scan. Do hope everything's OK as I'm throwing in the towel after this pregnancy.

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 12:56:02

SarahJ everyone else had said it better than I could but just wanted to say I'm thinking of you.

sarahl it might be worth going to your a&e even if they can't scan you until Tuesday, when I went they did bloods and checked my hcg levels again 2 days later.

sultanajo thanks for the review, I may have to buy one! I've been sleeping loads but it takes me a while to get to sleep as I'm so uncomfortable.

It's DHs birthday on Saturday so I'm off out to buy him a present (and a cake as I'm not up to making one this year!) I'm buying him a massive, heavy tool box so hoping someone will carry out to the car for me!

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 12:56:45

Glad to see sickness is beginning to fade for some! Hopefully everyone else won't be far behind!

MrsAVB Thu 20-Jun-13 13:29:32

Yo yo yo!
I am at a conference this afternoon, so blissfully not in the office til Monday. S-day tomorrow - please please please let everything be ok! This will be my first ever scan, eek! And then we are travelling to see my family. I think it's all going to be a bit overwhelming!
sarahj, so sorry you've been through all that shit, hope you are getting lots of tlc, we are always here if you need to offload! And shout CUNTPUFFIN!
sarahl FX for a swift and good outcome... I second the others; go to a&e or minor injuries unit if you are in doubling up type pain.
Re. books for blokes - I've just been to the library so far and they had a good selection. Got one for DH which was more a memoir/ funny accounts of fatherhood. Plus radio 5's bump club podcast has been brilliant for him (and me), especially in terms of understanding how tired/ shit I've been feeling, and cos its radio 5 it's man friendly!

MrsAVB scan tomorrow!! Ooooooh exciting! Mine is in TWELVE DAYS (and one hour... not that I am counting...)

Enjoy your conference (hope it is one you are just attending and therefore can snooze through). x

Penny31 Thu 20-Jun-13 13:45:10

mrsa good luck tomorrow! You will feel anxious and nervous but its sooooo worth the wait! It's the most amazing thing that I have ever seen!

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 13:47:40

MrsA are the podcasts on the bbc website? I bought DH the bloke's guide to pregnancy and babies, it's by the loo so he's slowly reading through it!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 13:55:17

MrsV I would try and find out what the menu is if you can or otherwise tell them so they can sort something out for you.... Nightmare when they just plonk stuff down infront of you at the best of times....

Great to hear some of you are getting vom free periods! Hurray! Fingers crossed you are coming out the other side!!! Will give the rest of us hope.... wink

MrsAVB yeay for your first scan! Can't believe you have held out for so long! I am well impressed! Will be thinking of you as I lie there hopefully seeing my own wiggly little fidget bum! My best mate is having her 20 week scan tomorrow too - ekkk! Feels like a long way away, but we are nearly at the end of June already which is incredible (although it has really really dragged up til now....)

Bit the bullet and booked onto an NCT antenatal class - runs October-November for December births. That will make it feel more real!

Was also looking into antenatal aqua classes and there is one close to me but it's a Thursday morning, so I would have to change my hours which would be a little annoying. Will give it a few more weeks until I am hopefully feeling better before thinking about whether to do it or not.... I definitely want to get back into swimming (when there is no risk of me vomming in the pool)! blush

carrotcakecupcake Thu 20-Jun-13 13:55:23

Hi all, haven't posted for a while as just been feeling so so so very tired and can't seem to do anything but exist at the moment! Fortunately I seem to have avoided any and all ms (she says while ducking as others throw things at her) which is a relief as it was something I was really worried about. Dying to tell my mum and compare with her pregnancies as I think we're very similar.
Had my booking in last week and v pleased with my MW, feel v comfortable with her which is nice.
Have also (most exciting) just ordered first pair of mat jeans, after spending past two days with waistband digging into bump (bloat) I finally succumbed to Gap website! Down here in deepest, darkest Cornwall our shop options are rather limited!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 13:56:16

I bought DH "pregnancy for men" which arrived today and after having a quick nosey through it, it looks quite good. Just need to persuade him to read it now!!!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 14:10:14

Carrot it's rough enough feeling knackered so won't throw anything at you! wink You have very strong will power having held off telling your mum! I was going to hold off too as didn't want to worry her after it all going wrong last time, but as soon as I saw her I blurted it out and actually I am glad I did as she has been really supportive and is coming to my scan tomorrow - hopefully a much more positive scan than the last one she had. It's a bit nerve wracking as am finally going to be going back to the same place who scanned me in January and told me I had a MMC and it was my Mum who was with me that time too, so I am hopeful that this time I will break the bad memories and replace them with good! If I hadn't had a good private scan last week I don't think I would be taking my Mum tomorrow, as I don't want to put her through that again! However, I really want her to see my little bubs wriggling around, so it had better be active when we go!!! grin

Mythreeknights Thu 20-Jun-13 14:46:16

good luck sultana for your scan tomorrow smile, I am sure all will be well.

I have been having sharp pain in my right boob for two days now...so have finally switched to my old hotmilk mat bras. Feels better but i do keep finding myself rubbing it so not 100%.

My scan isn't until 9 July when i will be 12 weeks...first one this pg so v exciting. Nausea has lifted but boy I am knackered...totally understand the poster who said she is 'existing'.

Can't wait to hear all new scan news. hope everyone is doing well.

quackojuliet Thu 20-Jun-13 14:48:42

Ooo scans so exciting! Mine is on monday,nearly there now!
I've had some relief from all day and night nausea now and starting to feel more human... My latest synmptom though is drooling! Its disgusting!! Need to wipe with a tissue to stop it dribbling down my chin ha ha!

enormouse Thu 20-Jun-13 14:53:13

Have any of you flicked through the books for men? I'd like to get my DP one but he's an insufferable know it all as he 'did the whole birth thing' less than 2 years ago therefore he doesn't need to read up.

carrot I sympathise, I'm having to make a trip into Belfast to pick up some things next week.

I indulged in a little retail therapy myself today. Bought myself a pair of wedged trainers which are amazing - give me the height I desperately need yet are so comfy. Had a bit of a meltdown when I saw the maternity wear as it didn't feel very 'me'. But a very sympathetic friend pulled me back from the ledge.

sarahl fx for you. Let us know how it goes x.

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 14:57:57

Thanks mythree - hope your boob gets better. Really need to get measured myself! Just have to summon up the energy to go....

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 15:00:35

quack omg that made me laugh! Drooling! Bless ya! That sucks!

Glad u got brought back from the ledge enormouse! All the dresses I tried on at jojomamabebe made me look frumpy and mumsey! Not the look I was going for! grin

carrotcakecupcake Thu 20-Jun-13 15:37:20

sultanamy mum lives in the States so its been pretty easy keeping things from her...except when we have out weekly phone catch up and I'm constantly racking my brain to talk about things other than me! Think I'm really going to miss her over next few months but glad shes been talking about coming over next year smile hope your scan goes well, yous so lucky to have your mums hand to hold!!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 15:56:36

carrot ah yes, that makes it a little easier to keep it a secret! She will absolutely be coming over next year when she finds out your news! Yes I feel extremely lucky to have my mum around. She is coming up 75 so I really cherish all our moments together and feel really blessed I can share this with her. blush

Penny31 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:53:08

Well my blood tests for the platelet issue the doc thought I had have come back normal smile phew. Just the results of the combined test to come back now. The hospital said if I was high risk they would ring me by the end of today so hopefully everything is ok! I can breathe a sigh if relief and I might even buy a little something baby related at the weekend smile

When are you all going to give in and start buying the odd thing? I know some people wait until after 20 weeks, just don't think I have the willpower!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 16:58:56

Thats excellent news penny. Really hope you dont get a phone call! grin

I am very tempted to start getting bits and bobs - I want to wait until 20 weeks but I may weaken beforehand, especially once I start feeling better!!! wink

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 17:21:12

Fx, Penny!

I will start looking at stuff after the combined test results. I don't really need to buy much, tbh. My nephew is 19 months and a winter baby, too, so most of his stuff will be perfect for ours. I'm not having her pram because I don't like it! <brat> But she has a swinging seat, a bouncy chair, all the clothes in the entire world, steam steriliser, electric breast pump etc etc. I used to have a swinging crib and lent it to someone and I'm not sure where it is, but she has my cot, which has so far done my DC and my niece/nephews, so I can have that back. She has a moses basket, but I have a hatred of them, so won't be having one of those!

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 17:43:06

Sounds good penny smile I've already weakened and bought some little bits!

DHs nephew will be 18 months in January so hopefully we can get some second hand clothes and toys smile

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 17:52:24

Trouble is, MrsG, once it's out of babygros you'll be out of luck for hand me downs because your DH's nephew will be a summer baby sad

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 18:12:29

Yeah, hopefully they'll be a few things we can use, summers in Devon are still pretty cold!

Naturegirl82 Thu 20-Jun-13 18:16:16

Just coming on to rant. Had a mega hectic three days of work, whilst feeling rubbish because of a sore throat, and my flight has been delayed by 2 hours sad. I just want to get into my own bed!

I'll have a scroll through and see if I can catch up. You ladies have been chatting loads! smile

BuntCadger Thu 20-Jun-13 18:47:17

Got proper dating/nt scan next week but We have decided not to have blood tests as if they cane back high we wouldn't want invasive tests and wouldn't change wether we continued with pregnancy. It was my consultant who said, prob best not have not have blood test at all as if it cake back high risk, it would play on our minds and that I should just enjoy pregnancy. So that's what were doing. I had tests with other dc so remember waiting for results. Ill know from scan if any obvious markers or concerns.

Re buying stuff, I still have all the baby bits from others and all autumn/winter babies. Still have slings, bugaboo, carseats, Moses basket (45 years old now!), cot etc. we have reusable nappies but I may get some extra for newborn. Poor baby gonna have everything almost preloved! Think we have names decided now too smileX

Bikey86 Thu 20-Jun-13 19:25:22

mythree I have also been experiencing pain...but in my left boob!!! My Bras are all far to tight. My dh is laughing at me coz as soon as I walk through the door after work I take my bra off!!! Such a relief. You also mentioned that your nausea had stopped. I haven't felt sick since Sunday and its started to concern me, I'm 8+5 today. Really worried coz one of my friends keeps saying the sicker you are the better. Is this true? Both my mum and my MIL say they had no sickness during their pregnancies.

Am I worrying unnecessarily??

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 20:10:22

bikey everyone is different. My mum had no sickness at all whereas I have had constant nausea. Lack of symptoms doesnt necessarily mean anything is wrong. Have u got any private scans planned?

Well I left it too late before eating tonight and felt really bad right before eating and now I have eaten I feel even worse! Blerghhhh!

On the plus side just catching up with celebrity juice which is making me giggle a bit thru the nausea, but when I laugh the pressure on my stomach makes me dangerously close to losing my dinner! shock

Percypiglet Thu 20-Jun-13 20:10:59

Hello all.

Had my booking in appointment today at 9 weeks 2 days. It was a male midwife! That surprised me, I've clearly got drawn into all the stereotyping. When he called my name I actually looked around the GP surgery to check it was me he was after!! Anyway, it was all fine. But seriously, does anyone from the medical profession ever say congratulations or are they always straight down to business??

Now just waiting for our scan (20 days). These 12 weeks are DRAGGGGGING....

Best wishes to all having sickness, bleeding and general bad time. x

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 20:14:05

I think I would have done a double take too percy. When u have an idea in your head of what to expect it can be surprising. I had a picture in my head of what my midwife would look like and was really taken back when I saw her.

Bikey86 Thu 20-Jun-13 20:15:54

sultana no private scans planned...1st scan at 12 weeks is 17th July. Its my first baby so i guess I'm just feeling anxious about everything

percy mine congratulated us - but I didn't expect it! People sort of forget, don't they?

My nausea is much better today - still there, but manageable. I made mac and cheese with asparagus for dinner, yum. 11w tomorrow, so I am very hopeful that the placenta is taking over for me and my HcG levels are dropping, hence the ms easing. I hope it happens for everyone else soon!

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 20:30:05

Me too humpty! grin

bikey you are in very good company with the worrying! Am sure there are other ladies on here who can give you reassurance from their experiences. In fact I have a feeling penny's symptoms eased off a little while before her scan and all was well. grin I do totally understand your worries.....

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 20:39:16

My sister had a male midwife when she was in labour with my nephew (he's 9 now). He was lovely.

My midwife doesn't look like a MW either. She's all blonde and glam and Slavic.

chocoloulou33 Thu 20-Jun-13 20:39:56

Ooh you ladies have all been chatty 2day. Well I spoke to soon this morning! I vommed at work 2day! Am already in bed too which is very early for me but urgh I need it x

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 20:46:33

Feel for u choco I wont be far behind u....yawn!,shock

Sultanajo Thu 20-Jun-13 20:48:46

Toby - blonde and slavic! What a morale booster! That would make me feel like a right scruff (although it doesnt take much these days!!!)wink

TobyLerone Thu 20-Jun-13 20:56:34

I know. She's gorgeous!

MrsGSR Thu 20-Jun-13 20:57:32

Bikey my MIL had no nausea or sickness at all throughout her pregnancies and had 3 healthy boys smile you hear stories of people not knowing they're pregnant for months so I guess most of them probably don't have many symptoms either.

MrsAVB Thu 20-Jun-13 22:32:53

Night night ladies! sultana FX for tomorrow x

Toothfairy78 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:39:35

It's just about bedtime but just wanted to share...

So I survived my karate class tonight. Bonus!

Had fun telling my training buddies. Best one was the guy I caught in the car park on the way in;
Me: Hi how you doin'?
Him: Evenin' alright thanks. Y'alright?
Me: yeah good thanks. Pregnant!
Him: er, huh, wot?

Tee hee. Guess you had to be there!

Nighty night!

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 06:56:55

Thanks mrsavb! You too - will be thinking of you. Absolutely bricking it this morning! Ekkkk! Please be ok baby Sultana & leap about like you have before. Deep breaths and must not have a meltdown as I walk in the room this time!!! confused

LittlePeaPod Fri 21-Jun-13 07:04:36


Just nipped on to say good luck Sultanajo and anyone else having scans....

MrsGSR Fri 21-Jun-13 07:56:43

Good luck sultanajo!

tooth that does sound pretty funny! I'm getting really nervous about telling people this weekend.

MrsVDB Fri 21-Jun-13 08:10:43

Good luck sultana

bikey I have hardly any symptoms (although have started feeling generally shit again), hence my major panics. Bfp was even very faint at epu on 8+3 but saw heartbeat and everything is fine. Just hoping my placenta started kicking in extra early. Think ill have A private scan in the next week or 2 as real scan not until 16th

TobyLerone Fri 21-Jun-13 08:12:44

Good luck, sultana!

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 08:36:19

Good luck to all those with scans today! Looking forward to hearing lovely news smile

Penny31 Fri 21-Jun-13 08:38:12

sultana good luck!

bikey my symptoms only lasted a couple of weeks and then 2 weeks before my scan I felt totally normal! Had my scan on Tues and everything is absolutely fine, so try not to worry. I was actually later on than I thought. 14 weeks today! I'm technically an imposter on this thread but you are all my pals now so I'm staying!

Frizz1986 Fri 21-Jun-13 08:51:48

Good luck sultana and anyone else with scans today.

After feeling very chuffed with my happy mood yesterday and my limited nausea, today karma has come back like a b#@#h!
I feel the most rotten that i have felt for the whole pg so far. Am forcing some rice krispies in and have some strawberries to munch on but the thought of anything is currently making me want to throw up! Pity party today I think.

Dont know how the rest of you have managed for so long! You have my ultimate respect!

chocoloulou33 Fri 21-Jun-13 09:12:41

Ah no frizz feel better soon. Yes its rly rubbish. I have the odd day where I'm not feeling too bad & think I'm getting better then wham it comes back to haunt me.
Good luck with your scan sultana how exciting for you. Anyone else got their scan 2day? I can't believe mines still over a week away x

Yorkiedodah Fri 21-Jun-13 09:54:47

Just woken from an anti sickness tab induced sleep. Havent been at work all week and am likely to get signed off next week too as Im still staggering around the house.

Frizz its rubbish isnt it? envy sad

Good luck sultan so exciting and nerve wracking at the same time.grin grin

Beginning to feel a bit left out re scans. sad I have my booking appt next week ill be about 11+2 and no mention of a scan as of yet..... why is everything so slow up here? envy envy

sultana and MrsAVB massive luck for scans today!!

frizz aw, you poor love. Take it easy - can you have a sick day off work? I felt a bit grim this morning, all heartburny and nauseous, but I think it was because I recklessly had jam on my toast instead of marmite. Foolish.

yorkie Poor you too! Re scan - mine got booked at my booking in appt (we were off on hols for end of week 12 and until after 13+6 which is end of window for NT, so they had to get us in quickly) - got it booked for 13 days after booking in, i.e. 11 days from now, so it can happen pretty quickly - hope that cheers you up!

I am 11w today, yay! I have been looking forward to today, as bean is now size of a fig, which is my favourite fruit (when not feeling grim)! Yay for figbean!

omama Fri 21-Jun-13 10:38:30

I'm out ladies sad. Been for scan this morning, should be 11+1 & measuring only 3mm, sac & pole but no heartbeat. They won't officially confirm its a missed miscarriage til I have a repeat scan in 2 weeks, but am 100% certain of my dates so I know deep down its all over. Still having brown discharge so guess its the beginnings of miscarriage. Feeling pretty heartbroken esp as we'd been trying so long & waiting for something to happen is agonising.sad

Good luck to the rest of you in your pregnancy journey.xx

omama oh shit, I'm so sorry. You poor love. That's a horrible piece of news, and a horrible thing to happen. Look after yourself.

TobyLerone Fri 21-Jun-13 10:51:15

Oh, omama, I'm sorry sad What a nasty shock for you.

lovelilies Fri 21-Jun-13 10:59:34

omama so sorry for you sad

MrsVDB Fri 21-Jun-13 11:05:18

Sorry to hear that omama hope you are ok, as much as you can be

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 11:08:39

Omama I'm so sorry. Thinking of you xx

chocoloulou33 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:21:35

omama am so upset about your news. I can't believe it. After chatting to u all these months on the ttc buses I know what this meant to u. Am gutted for you honey. Rly don't know what to say. Take care & I'll look out for you on the other threads xxx

Penny31 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:29:14

omama I'm so sorry. Hugs xx

MrsGSR Fri 21-Jun-13 11:50:32

I'm so, so sorry omama sad

bugsyburge Fri 21-Jun-13 12:01:36

so sorry omama

Oh no, omama. How devastating for you sad. Do look after yourself x

Yorkiedodah Fri 21-Jun-13 12:17:35

Omama really sorry to hear about your news ... please look after yourself.

alteredimages Fri 21-Jun-13 12:23:13

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news omama and I really hope you get your sticky bean soon.

Frizz1986 Fri 21-Jun-13 12:46:18

omama I'm so sorry to hear your news. Hope there is a sticky bean waiting for you in the not too distant future.

enormouse Fri 21-Jun-13 12:59:25

Omama so sorry for you. Thinking of you and your partner. flowers

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 14:27:36

omama I am just so sorry! Thats just awful - even worse with them making you wait two weeks.....My thoughts are very much with you. thanks

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 14:31:44

Never like posting my good news when someone else has just received such horrible news, but scan went well this morning thankfully! smile The bad news from last time has been replaced by good this time. Phew! They bumped me forward so am 13 weeks today. penny I thought of you as they made me cough to get the little monkey to wriggle around! Scared the life out of me as the last two scans it has been really active so was filled with doom until it kicked out a leg! So unbelievably relieved! grin Next scan not until 9th August. Feels like a long way away!

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 14:34:52

yorkie how frustrating you are still waiting on scan dates!!!

Frizz feel for you feeling so rough. Not nice!

humpty I can empathise with the recklessness of your breakfast change and feeling shit after. Did that last night when I really knew better! Only myself to blame!!!wink

MrsAVB Fri 21-Jun-13 14:41:40

so sorry omama xxx sultana yay for a good scan! mine was perfect. have also been bumped forward, edd now 01/01! have a good day all x

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 14:56:14

Yeay mrsavb! So pleased for you! grin

sultana and MrsAVB WoooHOOOO for perfect scans! That is ace news! Also, MrsAVB, you are now going to be a New Year's Day baby (mother)! How cool is that? My loveliest aunt is a NYD birthday.

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 15:06:12

Brilliant news, Sultana and MrsA! smile

Penny31 Fri 21-Jun-13 15:26:03

Excellent news sultana and mrsa.

All the good people are born at new year, I should know ;)

sultana I also had to cough! But it didn't appear to make a difference, lazy little thing. Sonographer didn't seem worried though.

Frizz1986 Fri 21-Jun-13 15:27:14

Congrats on e

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 16:21:53

Thanks ladies!

penny the leg kick seemed like a token gesture and I had to cough several times to get it. I expect the ton of coughing I did this morning when my water went down the wrong way, followed by the dry heaving, probably properly disturbed it, so by the time I had the scan it needed a nap! grin

Frizz1986 Fri 21-Jun-13 16:24:17

Stupid phone posting as I type!

Congrats sultana and mrsa

Unfortunately no chance of a sick day for me. My boss finishes today for a week and as I cover all the invoicing while she is off (i am still in training) I need to be here to make sure we are up to date and for hand over.
Then next week I am in charge of it all! Holy crap. Means if i feel horrific next week I am just gonna have to power thru!

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 16:34:17

frizz that sucks! There is nothing worse than knowing you dont have the option of going sick if you need to. I am in a similar position for July and it makes me nervous, - got a lot of travelling with work coming up in July also which I am dreading....just praying we start to feel better soon! Thinking of you frizz! sad

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 16:45:31

Is anyone else getting really crippling headaches?? Not sure if it's pregnancy related. Feels like early stages of migraine and been hanging around since Tuesday! Starting to get me down...

MrsVDB Fri 21-Jun-13 16:50:58

Congratulations sultana and mrsavb it must be such a relief!

So when I initially went to the doctors I got given blood test forms, so went and got my bloods done at hospital now have to go to doctors to pick up results prior to booking in apt tomorrow. Is this normal? I thought they normally arranged bloods at booking in?

sarahleanne Fri 21-Jun-13 16:55:43

Currently sat on wet grass at my sons football practise , well that's one step closer to getting piles haha .

Really sorry to hear your news omama

Congrats to all if you who have had positive scans today, woooo!!

I have stopped bleeding ( for the minute) I had one spot of blood this morning but apart from that, nothing more.
Im staying positive as the doctor said the fact I had seen a heartbeat at 10 weeks is great and it's really rare to have a miscarriage after that, plus the fact I blead with both of my previous pregnancies. Docs told me not to worry to much although she did say how hard it is to stay calm. No more cramps either.

Cheese and potato pie for tea, it's my new craving! Shame my cravings not salad lol. Totally gone off chocolate and I'm normally such a bugger for eating crap. I went off it with ds aswell so I reckon this ones a boy ( fingers crossed ) smile

Sultanajo Fri 21-Jun-13 17:23:04

extra have had a few headaches, but not had one for a while. They can be a symptom of pregnancy apparently but if they are persistent perhaps worth getting advice from your gp or midwife?

mrsv it seems to be different in different areas. Sounds like you are having to do a lot of running around!!!

sarahL Lol - wet grass and piles! grin Thats great your doc has given you reassurance and your bleeding has stopped! Hurray! Hmmm cheese and potato pie sounds interesting....smile

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 17:25:14

Cheese and potato pie sounds bloody amazing...

Frizz1986 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:46:43

Ill be thinking of you too sultana
At least next week should go quickly as it will be busy and then my scan is 1st july so hopefully it will just make the scan arrive faster. Can't wait to hit the 11 week mark!

curlywurlyllass Fri 21-Jun-13 18:35:13

omama thinking of you, so sorry to hear your sad news x

sultana and mrsavb congratulations on your scans smile

Im here for a grumble sad booking in today and midwife was lovely, on her second try to get blood out of a stone me the fire alarm went off so my vein gave up its dribble. after an hours wait in the sun she got the head midwife to butcher my other arm so im sporting some nice bruises smile
But im most gutted i wont b allowed any possibility of a birthing pool coz im so fat bmi 38 :'(
so just a room and a bed for me when the time comes -_-
Wish i was slimmer to get a bit of choice
Sorry needed to vent!

hope you all have a nice weekend

MrsVDB Fri 21-Jun-13 18:52:28

curly sorry to hear of your rubbish day. I have a high bmi too and also want a water birth, did they say what the cut off is? This morning my bmi was bang on 35 and got my booking in tomorrow

chocoholicalcoholic Fri 21-Jun-13 18:55:31

Cheese and potato pie sounds delicious mmm mmm save some for us! Glad you're staying positive sarah

extra I've been getting bad headaches that quickly develop into migraines. The only way they go is by having some paracetamol and sleeping them off - not always convenient to have a kip halfway through the day! They are indeed a pregnancy symptom but if you're worried ask you're midwife. Are you drinking enough? I think lack of fluid contributes to mine sometimes, along with the crazy hormones going on inside. All good fun innit!

So glad for the happy scans! Very exciting! I can't wait for mine now, 4 days to go eeeeeek!

omama I'm so so sorry to hear your sad news. Please look after yourself. Sending a virtual hug x x

extracrunchy Fri 21-Jun-13 19:05:29

Choco exactly. Thing is with DS (who is also charming but loud) it's impossible to nap. I'm probably not drinking anywhere near enough so will work on that!

I'm having cheesy mash for tea I think...

Percypiglet Fri 21-Jun-13 20:17:34

Omama, so sorry for your sad news.

People, I need advice. How do you tell someone you love dearly that you are pregnant when they have just lost their very much wanted baby due to horrific circumstances? Any ideas welcome. I just don't want to upset them given the trauma they are going through... but clearly at 10 weeks I can't hide it for too much longer.

sarahleanne Fri 21-Jun-13 21:00:52

Just been toilet ( sorry tmi) and it looks like I jinxed myself earlier , spotting bright red blood now, great. It was pinkish mostly the other day and now red. Dammit!!!!

LittlePeaPod Fri 21-Jun-13 21:10:55

Omama just read your update. I am so sorry you are going through this. flowers

Bikey86 Fri 21-Jun-13 21:12:15

omana so sorry to hear your news.

Thanks to everyone for their support regarding my symptoms...the funny thing is I started feeling nauseous again last night and its lasted all day. Relieved but feeling rubbish. Double edge sword!!!

LittlePeaPod Fri 21-Jun-13 21:12:56

SarahL sorry to hear your update. Can you call EPU or your MW. I know scan was only other day but they may be able to provide some reassurance. I hope you are as well as can be under the circumstances...

LittlePeaPod Fri 21-Jun-13 21:14:26

Sultanajo and MrsA congratulations on the fantastic scans.. smile

sarahl fx it's nothing serious. Are you cramping? If not, it can be okay, even if v red blood, from what I've read.

sarahleanne Fri 21-Jun-13 21:23:41

Thanks for all your support. No cramps today. Everytime I see blood it makes me worry then my dh has to rationalise the situation and remind me that we had all this last time. Still doesn't take the worry away 100% though.

LittlePeaPod Fri 21-Jun-13 21:30:12

Its just awful to worry so much but totally understandable SarahL Keeping everything crossed that it stops quickly. flowers

curlywurlyllass Fri 21-Jun-13 21:38:55

Mrsvdb they said cut off is bmi35, good luck!!!

SarahL keep the faith

MrsVDB Fri 21-Jun-13 22:14:21

curly that's what I thought which will be even worse if I'm just over! Will try and stand very tall when they measure me!!

BuntCadger Sat 22-Jun-13 00:02:39

Percy - re your friend, I think you need to prepare yourself that she may wish to avoid you till she feels ready to be around baby related life again. It's so hard knowing how To broach and I think I'd perhaps say that you are unsure how to share your news but you value her so much you wanted to tell her yourself. My best friend lost her baby in pregnancy and was devastated and didn't want to be around me and my baby (who was older). Though we kept in contact is text/phone. T only became easier after shed had another baby.

Ona sad so sorry to read about your scan. I hope that the dates are just totally wrong for you xxx

Apparentlychilled Sat 22-Jun-13 02:59:12

Anyone else suffering from insomnia? I've tossed and turned since DH came to bed about 11.30 and just got up for some cereal. Bit of a pain as I've to get up at 6am and have a long day ahead of me (travelling to a family funeral for distant relative).

LittlePeaPod Sat 22-Jun-13 04:32:34

Percy sorry to hear about your friend. I can only speak from my experience. If it had been me post our lose then I would have appreciated my friends telling me in private before lots of others found out. Just to give me a chance to get my head round it. My SIL and I were due at the same time when I suffered our lose. She was really sensitive to my feelings and didn't go on about the baby in front of me even if people were around and asking. She always let me lead the conversation. She would talk about it if I asked but never got all excited (if that makes sense). Eventually I got stronger and talk to her about not feeling guilty that she was still pregnant but I wasn't. Bunt is also right there was a short period of time when I could nt see her as it was too painful. She was really understanding and I love her so much more for her kindness and thoughtfulness. Everyone is different but I would definetly speak to her in private, just the two of you. Good luck.

LittlePeaPod Sat 22-Jun-13 04:35:13

Percy one more thing. I would o it sooner rather than later. You don't want her to feel like everyone knew except for her because of their lose. Good luck, its such a hard position you are in.

LittlePeaPod Sat 22-Jun-13 04:37:19

Apparantly not normally but I seem to ave woken up at 4am this morning. Thank god it's Saturday.....

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 08:20:14

sarahL until you see for yourself at the scan all is well its so hard not to worry. As u say no cramps and you had this in previous pregnancies, fingers crossed all is well!

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 08:31:12

Ok, getting to 13 weeks and having a good scan yesterday u would think I would be more relaxed. Wrong! I have never got this far before so its brand new territory.

Since yesterday I have been having lower abdominal aches, like mild craps, on and off, which I have just about managed to convince myself is everything stretching as the uterus prepares to move higher up in the abdomen. Was quite proud of myself for calmly rationalising! wink

However, this morning I am a bit panicky and potentially need a slap or someone with rational thinking!

When I got up to pee this moring (tmi alert) I did the usual knicker checking and along with my normal whitish discharge towards the front of my pants, there was a lot more just watery clear discharge further down. It hasnt completely soaked thru my pants, but its significantly more than normal. Of course because its watery I am freaking out that it could be amniotic fluid....

Ok, so I know discharge is meant to increase now, but thought it would be more of the same type I have been used to. It had a mild smell to it but cant tell if it could be a bit of pee that leaked out.

Am obviously going to monitor and see what happens today, but perhaps there is someone out there who can give me a bit of reassurance? sad

TobyLerone Sat 22-Jun-13 08:53:54

sultana, I'm 12 weeks tomorrow. Yesterday I started again with the really mild cramping on and off. Exactly like really mild period pains. I also had a bit more discharge yesterday. I hope my humiliating myself by talking about discharge to strangers on the internet makes you feel better grin

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 09:00:56

Thanks toby! grin All the pregnancy books are useless when it comes to this sort of thing. It says useless things like "by now you should hopefully start feeling better" and "nows the time to start trying to up your intake of healthy foods if you havent been able to face them til now" why thank you captain fecking obvious you patronising twot but what I need it to say is "you may notice an increase in discharge, which may be watery and you may freak out that its leaking amniotic fluid. But dont worry because its likely to either be an increase in normal discharge or you have just peed yourself a little!" grin

TobyLerone Sat 22-Jun-13 09:01:56

And this is why I don't read pregnancy books!

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 09:03:14

You are so wise toby! grin

Morning ladies grin

Off to a hen do today (last thing I feel like, but hum ho) - the bride and my close friends know so at least I don't have to fake drink etc.

Managed scrambled eggs for breakfast, which is definite progress. Normally toast is my limit and that is forced down.

Oh, and sultana I have LOADS of discharge too [proud emoticon] - I also smell different <mouths it> down there, not unpleasant, just different.
Also, talking about such stuff is, I believe the second stage on the road to total loss of all dignity. Stage one being discussion of cervical mucus when TTC. Next comes constipation/haemorrhoid chat grin Something to look forward to!

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 10:41:57

humpty that absolutely cracked me up! grin Dignity will be well and truly gone I am sure by the new year!

Good luck on your hen do! As u say, at least you dont have to fake drink! Hope it goes better than u expect. Great progress with your breakfast! grin

MrsVDB Sat 22-Jun-13 11:06:44

sultana when I was worried before about my discharge (yes tmi but think we may have to get used to it) I read watery discharge is very normal and can continue on through pregnancy. If you read many other threads they suggest panty liners so I wouldn't worry

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 11:20:42

Thanks mrsv - think it was just the shock this morning - wasnt expecting it!!! I google searched and came up with similar results to what you are saying, along with some that fuelled my panic! So far fingers crossed it has gone back to normal.....roll on mw appointment in 3 weeks! smile

Frizz1986 Sat 22-Jun-13 14:06:11

sultana i am not even 11 weeks yet and for the past week my discharge has gone crazy. I half think i might just be peeing myself but think its normal. Most things I have seen say that in pregnancy your body can go a bit crazy discharge wise, but as long as it doesn't smell and isn't a funny colour there probably isn't any need to worry.

Today I have ordered some trousers and jeans from next. My first maternity attire. Really wanted to try some stuff on as i am between 10-12 size wise but nowhere has anything. Have had to get dh to attempt to measure me with a tape measure and we will see what happens tomorrow when i pick them up. At least if they are wrong I can order the other size tomorrow night and get it del to store to pick up on monday.

I swear that before i was pg there were maternity lines everywhere to try on but now there is nothing. It almost feels as if shops don't want pregnant people to come in.

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 14:18:19

Thanks Frizz! Feeling much better about things hearing all your experiences.

I too am between sizes and have ended up having to risk online because there is almost no where who stocks maternity wear any more! Its so weird! I dont understand why they would get rid of them in shops! I have just been lucky the jeans I bought fitted ok, but suspect am gonna struggle with tops when I need them! Good luck frizz hope your bits and bobs fit! grin

extracrunchy Sat 22-Jun-13 14:52:58

Guys... Go up a size whatever you do!! You're going to fill out in places you didn't know you had...

Discharge - last time I had so much I went to hospital and demanded to be on a monitor cos I was convinced it was amniotic fluid. Embarrassingly, they had to convince me actually I was just oozing normal pregnajuice.


Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 15:08:25

Pregnajuice extra! grin Brilliant! grin

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 17:05:25

The only thing I want to eat/drink right now is a kfc strawberry Krushem. Typical - would be something we shouldnt have. I was considering trying to replicate it but we dont have a blender.....why cant I want something we actually have in the house....?wink

MrsVDB Sat 22-Jun-13 17:05:47

Just had booking in apt and midwife just took my word for weight and height so I may have taken a couple of pounds off but still said bmi 34 and the midwife was shocked at how heavy I am as said I don't look it so that was nice! Even with my high bmi she said I can go for mlu and birthing pool woo hoo! I was dreading the appointment as thought I'd be 'high risk' but all is ok yeay smile

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 17:08:00

Yeay great stuff mrsv! My bmi was 32 at booking in and my mw said they would only consider high risk above 35. Phew!

enormouse Sat 22-Jun-13 17:16:39

Fantastic news for you MrsVDB
sultanajo I'm the same. I want kfc hot wings and gravy. I seem to ha e regressed to a 9 year old in terms of what I want. (Curly fries, potato waffles, fried chicken, kievs). Feel so sorry for my DP -
him - "I'll make you whatever you want but can it be something we have at home?"
Me - "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" angry "I want a McDonald's Apple pie!!!"

Am currently eating chips with baked beans and cheese.
On a positive note, I feel less hit by a bus today and managed to do breakfast for toddlermouse for the first time on a week. I hope this is the end of the feeling crapness.

alteredimages Sat 22-Jun-13 17:20:13

Hi everyone. What is it with us all freaking about discharge at exactly the same time? I had a freak out this morning about it too.

Last night was the fête de musique so random music all over town. We went for a wander and squeezed the buggy between loads of really happy drunk people. On the way I managed to not see a step and fall over. Now I have a sore swollen left knee, a sore right ankle and a sore left wrist. Oops. I woke up this morning with a runny nose and a sore throat too. Hmmmph.

Yesterday had another appt and all fine
Had lots of blood tests and results next week. A bit of a shocker though: I have managed to gain between 6 and 7 kilos and bmi has gone from 28 to 31. Argh! No more salt and vinegar crisps or pizza as morning sickness cure for me. Back to salads and lean meat!

DH also helped when he suggested I only hurt myself when I fell because my weight has increased so much...thanks!

I knew I'd put a bit on, but I still fit all my clothes so I am surprised the increase is as much as it is. Stretchy fabrics?

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 17:52:09

Lol enormouse! Bought some potato waffles the other day when I had them they were minging! grin Glad you are improving at the mo - hope it means you are on the road to recovery!

Altered omg - that must have really hurt! Poor you! What wonderful helpful comments about falling and weight gain! wink Bet that made it all better! grin

Very odd freaking out at the same time but also comforting!

MrsGSR Sat 22-Jun-13 18:27:50

sultanajo I've been craving just about everything other than whats in the cupboards! DH hadn't been impressed. I also made him by some potato waffles and then couldn't eat them.

altered ouch!

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 18:40:36

Lol mrsgsr I really wanted the waffles too, but as soon as I tried eating them I knew it was a mistake! I tried asking DH to go and get some hot dog sausages earlier (normally cant stand them). He said he would get some later, but now the thought of them fills me with horror! Glad he didnt get them now - he would have been super pissed off!,grin

Penny31 Sat 22-Jun-13 19:11:24

I've wasted the whole day by sleeping! I got up at 10am had some toast, had a shower and got dressed. Nephews came round and then I went to bed and I've only just got up. I feel wrecked! I thought I was meant to be full of energy at 14 weeks??? Humph

Toothfairy78 Sat 22-Jun-13 19:12:54

PREGNAJUICE can I just say, that's GENIUS! grin

Sultanajo Sat 22-Jun-13 19:15:24

penny I am only just having a bath. Spent the day vegging on the sofa and I too feel wrecked! Ridiculous! Have booked a bra fitting for the morning so I have to go out!!! grin

Naturegirl82 Sat 22-Jun-13 20:54:26

Penny and sultanajo I've been the same today. Mega four hour nap today. What a waste. Just forced myself to have a walk down the beach to feel a bit better.

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 07:41:10

Yawn! Morning ladies! Right, am getting up, getting showered, getting dressed and going out this morning! No more sofa vegging for me until this afternoon! Have a fab Sunday y'all! grin

chocoloulou33 Sun 23-Jun-13 07:51:04

Hello all. Have a fab day whatever you get up too sultana
I'm 12 weeks 2day eeeeek. Can't believe its finally here. Just wish I didn't have another week & day to wait for my scan!!! X

TobyLerone Sun 23-Jun-13 08:42:17

Happy 12 weeks to us both, loulou! How are you feeling?

Have a good day, sultana (and everyone).

It's mine and DH's 3rd anniversary (of meeting) today, so we're going out to lunch.

Toothfairy78 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:10:53


I have just had the most exciting news ever!

I just told my bestest set of buddies that I won't be going on a USA road trip with them in August and that I'm pg.

Turns out one of them in Oz is also pg AND has the same due date!!! I have my scan on Tuesday, she has hers Thursday.


Happy days!


Penny31 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:31:47

choc and toby happy 12 weeks!

Today is already better than yesterday, I'm up, showered and dressed. Going for a walk along the beach and for some breakfast and intend on doing some housework when I get back.

Have a lovely day everyone!

FreddieBubble Sun 23-Jun-13 09:40:14


Hope you don't mind me checking in from the land down under. I'm the friend from Oz that Toothfairy78 just mentioned. I can't believe that we are due on the same day!!

Toothfairy78 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:43:21

Aaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!! Hey Freddie!!!!!!

Toothfairy78 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:46:14

I'm too excited to do anything useful today!

Certainly beats fatigue though.

You'll be pleased to know I'm cooking pancakes.

extracrunchy Sun 23-Jun-13 09:49:39

Freddie and Toothfairy that is beyond exciting grin

FreddieBubble Sun 23-Jun-13 09:56:30

It is the most exciting day I've had in a while!

I was totally thrilled when I got Tooths news this morning but because we're 9 hours ahead, I've had to wait the whole day to tell her that I was pregnant as well.

And pancakes are good - but even better with bacon and maple syrup!

chocoloulou33 Sun 23-Jun-13 10:00:34

Ah toothfairy & freddie that's soooo lovely! I'm good thanks toby I wasn't sick all day yesterday but not gonna jinx it thinking that's it as I said this a few days ago lol. Still feeling rough but seems to rly help reaching the 12 week point. I want my scan to confirm all is well. When is yours again? X

chocoloulou33 Sun 23-Jun-13 10:01:38

Omg pancakes!! I want!

extracrunchy Sun 23-Jun-13 10:22:05

I had pancakes yesterday with my little sis after we found her dream wedding dress smile good day!

TobyLerone Sun 23-Jun-13 11:11:22

My scan's on Thursday.

I should probably get dressed for lunch. I doubt they'll let me in in my dressing gown!

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 12:42:28

choco & toby happy 12 weeks! Glad you are feeling slightly better choco, without jinxing u! wink

tooth & fred thats beyond exciting! Woop woop! Bet you are both buzzing!,grin

penny well done! I too have been out shopping and had my bra fitting - 40DD. A far cry from the 34DD I was in my 20s! blush Also invested in larger knickers today too as my normal ones are starting to feel uncomfy....confused

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 12:49:50

Well I proved once more that I am a marketers dream! Saw these limited edition apples in m & s called "baby rockitt apples" that come in a tube and couldnt resist buying not one, but two tubes! blush Hope they taste good!

Tigglettchic Sun 23-Jun-13 12:54:42

checking in, 8 and 6days. horrid gagging since wk5. Up and down eating i.e nothing for days then today: peanut butter and banana sandwich, melon, yoghurt, frankfurters and buttery pasta!!!!!!

due on the 27th jan 2014, dc1!!!!!

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 15:51:05

Well I've just caved and bought a pair of under bump jeans. Figured as I've spent half this week sat at my desk with my trousers undone it was probably time. grin

vix206 Sun 23-Jun-13 15:57:15

Can I join? I'm being a floozy as I'm also on the February thread but I'm due 27 January with DC2. DS was 15 days late which is why I'm expecting a February arrival but you never know!!

MrsMLB Sun 23-Jun-13 15:57:52

Ohhhh tiggletchic we are twins, I'm as also due on 27th with my first! Although as I'm quite expecting my edd to change after my scan!

Toothfairy78 Sun 23-Jun-13 16:15:13

Ooh, now feeling a but tired from all the excitement! And having painted the stair rails, laundry, the shopping, cooking...

Glad to see peeps are vomming less and eating more by the way!

Am gonna have a lie down followed by some knitting...

carrotcakecupcake Sun 23-Jun-13 16:27:03

Sounds like a good day all round, especially tooth and Freddie! Thanks btw for the new craving for maple syrup and bacon (preferably on blueberry pancakes) - must be the American coming out in me!!

Naturegirl I was the same all last week - had to keep checking when I stood up that I wasn't exposing too much blush Desperately awaiting a package from Gap to arrive!

So even though I haven't been near my running shoes in, ohhh, I don't even know how long, I decided to try and run the Race for Life this morning. Managed it all and in a good time, but boy am I sore now!! Currently reclined on sofa stuffing my face with some rather sore legs!! That'll teach me smile will stick to the swimming pool from now on.

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 16:46:40

Welcome Vix & Tiggle!

Nature you have to give in at some point and I for one have never looked back! Ahhh holy realms of comfort batman!!!grin

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 16:50:34

carrot well I take my hat off to you! Just walking round the shops earlier had me wanting a nap! What a sense of achievement! Hope u arent too sore tomorrow!

Well apart from the horrendous trapped wind that just wont bugger off, am having a pretty good afternoon. Am about to try some hot water with lemon....already tried stretching, squats, lying flat and Rennie Deflatine. Never had it so persistently! sad Come on hot water - do your thang! wink

enormouse Sun 23-Jun-13 16:52:51

Everyone seems to be a lot better today, which is great to hear. What is it with the pancakes today?!? I manage to wake up earlyish and make some egg free ones (I'm allergic) with yoghurt and berries for the family. I feel almost normal again. Even managed to put on a load of laundry and clean up the house.

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:02:11

I don't think I will look back they are so comfy. smile

Well done carrot on your run. I ran the London marathon in april and haven't run since sad. Had IT band problems but really need to get out there again. I miss it. How did you feel when you were running? I'm a bit scared to go out after so long!

Penny31 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:15:17

Well I managed a walk and some breakfast then my and DP wandered around mothercare, mamas and papas and John Lewis. Got home and had a nap. Nota bad day all in all! I caved in and mad my first purchase. Some vests and Muslins smile had a sneaky look at prams too!

carrotcakecupcake Sun 23-Jun-13 17:20:18

Naturegirl It was nowhere near as bad as I expected. My hips were a little sore but they've been aching this past week and I'm chalking it up to hormones? (or something preg related?) I say go for it!!

Penny31 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:25:22

Good on you carrot! I have done no exercise other than walking. I feel huge. I get a pain low down in my belly if I exert myself too much.

Frizz1986 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:51:55

Welcome to all the newbies and glad theres so much talk of food and doing things. Looks like some people are almost over that sickness hurdle.
I managed to actually do housework today. Cleaned, ironed, did a small shop (only buy as we need atm as was buying food for teas on a weekly basis, but by the time it came to eating them i didnt want them anymore)

Well my next maternity wear arrived today and thank god i went for a 10 (am norm a 10-12) as the jeans (over bump) are currently falling down as i need a mega bump growth to fill these things. Was hoping that it would be tight enough around my hips to stay up but not looking good. Am sure in a few weeks theyll be fine but not yet. They feel fab sat down tho!
The work trousers (under bump) are much better. Have pulled the elastic tabs in almost as tight as poss so they stay up, just need to try them on with my shirts now to make sure you cant see the elastic panels.

Well i am on countdown until the 12 week scan. Its a week tomorrow and I am beyond desperate for it to arrive. Cant believe in 8 days i will know if i have made it through the first trimester. Having the scan at 9 weeks and seeing a heartbeat def makes me less nervous but I know that doesnt always mean all will be ok so just really want to know.

farmersdaughter Sun 23-Jun-13 18:34:49

Hello, Just check in wink

Bluegh bluegh......I really am getting horridly feed up for feeling so ill. However this week I have mange to potty train DD, get her into a big bed and lose 8lb.

Need to read the thread and catch up.


Evening gorgeouses,

Well, hen do was AWFUL - really badly organised (I turned up to one branch of a cafe, eventually they realised they were in the other, despite email tot he contrary); we stayed in a YOUTH hostel (av age of our party: 31) where we had to sleep in bunk beds which were too short, and with a filthy bathroom that stank of wee. Then we got lost on the way to brunch today. I was murderous when I got home. It was nice seeing the hen and my other mates, but the rest of the hen's friends are beyond wet. I could cheerfully have slapped most of them. Now I have to get through a wedding a) pretending I remember any of their names and b) not slapping/insulting any of them.

Apart from that, I am still plagued by hayfever. The Prevalin works (thanks toby) but not all the time, and I get sneezing fits, particularly on the Tube and my nose is like a tap. It's driving me insane. I want to scream at the pollen and the stupid wind for stirring it all around <irrational preggo face>

However, no longer feeling so dreadful, just occasional nausea, and my appetite is recovering at last! Upsides to everything.

Glad to hear nice news, good luck for any scans tomorrow and hope everyone is well and happy.

Apparentlychilled Sun 23-Jun-13 18:49:55

Hey all. I had a 14 hr journey to a family funeral yesterday and today I'm totally exhausted, despite an early night last night and a nap at lunchtime. I guess it was too much for me, esp as I didn't sleep well the previous night. Hmm. Poor DH was in charge of the DC yesterday and again most of the day today- I think he's looking forward to going back to work tomorrow! I'm now 9+2 so am hoping my energy levels pick up in about 3 weeks, and that nausea subsides.

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 19:14:06

Ekkk frizz not long now! grin

penny well I am not surprised you weakened! I nearly did today but just stopped myself!!! wink

farmer that is a massive achievement! Well done!

humpty omg! A bit like a carry on film then! Well done for getting through it and am sure you can ignore the wet ones at the wedding....what a nightmare!!! Great the nausea is easing and your appetite is returning! Yippee!

I am noticing subtle improvements like coping with food smells better and I managed to eat some chicken yesterday which I couldnt face before, so despite the nausea, ridiculously sensitive gag reflex and exhaustion things do seem to be slowly getting better which is great! Finally at 13 weeks 2 days! grin

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 19:15:55

apparently so sorry about your funeral and what a trek! Not surprised you are now wiped out! Stamina isnt a word in my vocab at the moment - dont know how these super human ladies are running races! confused

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 19:32:41

Grrr currently cooking a roast for me and dh (which I never do as he does most/all of the cooking). He was meant to be home at 7 but I thought I would have it ready for 8 just in case he was late and now he won't be home till half eight. angry I'm in a huff now!

Apparentlychilled Sun 23-Jun-13 19:57:32

naturegirl- there must be something in the air- I'm so annoyed w dh and just had a big row.

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:01:08

Oh dear apparently hope it wasn't too bad. I'm quietly festering at the moment. What's annoying though is dh is training leaders for a camp for kids from disadvantaged backgrounds so don't know how annoyed I'm allowed to be as he is doing something to benefit others. Grrr.

Mac2014 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:04:56

Ladies just checking in...

11+5 at the mo and willing the nausea to stop, although haven't vommed for a few days, yippee!

Glad to hear people are starting to feel better and scans are on their way! I haven't had my dating scan dates through yet. Tried to phone on Friday, but the numbers my MW gave just rang out. Will be trying again tomorrow.

Was up til midnight last night at a comedy night... An now I bed, exhausted.

Night all xxxx

Mac2014 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:08:01

nature & apparently just read your posts. I'm exhausted as I've cleaned the house, cooked dinner and done loads of washing, whilst DH lay on the sofa like a sloth and watched the cricket. Have been in a foul shouty mood. Talking loudly to the dog about the laziness of DH! Why are they so useless?

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:24:45

Dh is usually so good but when it comes to these camps nothing else matters. I have 3 weeks of it in the summer as well. Just burnt my finger trying to rescue the chicken before it burnt to a crisp sad . But on the plus side my Yorkshire puds have turned out a treat! smile

MrsGSR Sun 23-Jun-13 20:29:33

I've read everything but can't remember who said what, very impressed with all the talk of exercise though, I've had a go on the exercise bike and been on some walks but feel tired just thinking of running!

I'm 10+1 today and nausea is slowly fading, still have some food aversions but I only feel nauseous when I think about them, whereas before I felt sick all the time and it just got worse thinking about food! I'm still exhausted all the time, and panicky about nausea fading so not feeling much better!

Good luck to all those having scans over the next few days, and welcome to those who've just joined! smile

enormouse Sun 23-Jun-13 20:44:33

Oh God I take it back, thought I was ok but am not. Was afflicted by baby brain whilst having a driving lesson.
Luckily my instructor is lovely, let me take a few breaks and when my concentration completely lapsed (luckily in the last 10 minutes) drove me home. Feel completely crap about it as I'm a perfectionist and like to get things right, especially something I know I can do.

nature just enjoy the lovely dinner you've made. Am jealous you can make yorkshires.
Mac someone previously said we're superwoman. I agree totally.

Mac2014 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:56:00

Lol!! Thinking we should all wear our pants over our trousers tomorrow to show the superwomannyness of us all!

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 20:58:29

Well luckily dinner wasn't ruined and I'm now stuffed! smile Just about ready for bed. Wish it wasn't Monday tomorrow though.

enormouse Sun 23-Jun-13 21:47:35

Mac I'd do that but I think I'd scare people with my giant granny panties.

Sultanajo Sun 23-Jun-13 21:57:20

Ughhh! It's Monday tomorrow! Telling my boss tomorrow hopefully! Looking forward to him knowing but things are so crazy goodness knows the arrangements it will take to get someone to cover me for a year....ah well, what will be will be....

Night all. Sweet dreams! grin

mac me too - what enormouse said. My pants are too large to be seen by other humans.
sultana I hear you. This week is the last full one before I can tell work. I may have to pull a sickie to get through it all. Time is draaaaagggggging at work, cos I want to tell and talk about it, so I just sit there in silence cos I can't say anything.
I'm for bed too, night lovelies. x

Naturegirl82 Sun 23-Jun-13 22:21:43

Good luck tomorrow sultanajo fx it goes well.

Sultanajo Mon 24-Jun-13 06:48:42

Arghhh humpty. Its so hard not saying anything! Hope this week goes quickly for u!

Thanks nature - getting nervous now!

Pidgy Mon 24-Jun-13 08:29:56

Hi ladies,
Boy, you move quick! As soon as I find a thread then I lose it!!

Congrats for all the positive scan stories! Exciting to see that little heart beat for the first time.
And my heart goes out to omama. Sorry to hear about your sad news.

We've had an eventful few weeks to say the least. I got taken into a&e with stomach pains on right hand side. The doctors thought it could be an ectopic so admitted me and did a scan the next day. It wasn't thankfully and I saw a blob with a flashing heart beat! :-)

I then couldn't stop being sick and just felt terrible. The doctor was convinced that I had severe morning sickness and that the pain was 'pregnancy related' because he said I'd be a lot iller if it was something like an appendicitis. They were planning on sending me home with some anti sickness tablets. Luckily they referred me to a surgeon who took 1 look at me and I was on the operating table 1 hour later to remove my appendix.

Thank god as it was black and leaking out gunk (I've seen the pictures!). Had to call the consultant to do the op as was a lot more tricky than they thought. Result of the delay was that I then had an infection and my bowels stopped working. So 5 days of vomiting everything and anything that passed my lips followed.

But, I am now fully discharged from the hospital and on the way to recovery.

Can't help but worry what this could have done to my baby. :-(
I've had 2 more scans post op and all looked well, but all they could check for at this stage was the heart beat

Worry, worry, worry.

TobyLerone Mon 24-Jun-13 08:34:45

Wow, pidgy, eventful and scary times for you! Glad you're recovering now.

Good luck today, sultana!

Mythreeknights Mon 24-Jun-13 09:03:59

Blimey Pidgy that sounds like a horrendous experience and yet you are so matter of fact about it...good for you! FWIW, a friend of mine had to have an ovary removed whilst 8 weeks pg with triplets. The op was a success and the trips were not affected by it at all. But get well soon! Sounds like an awful lot to deal with whilst pregnant and worrying in general about everything else!

Pidgy Mon 24-Jun-13 09:13:30

Thanks girls.

Bluecarrot Mon 24-Jun-13 09:21:24

Hi everyone smile I'm so cheap at keeping up with this thread- it moves too fast!

I'm 12 weeks today and we are telling my daughter and parents on Thursday night, then travelling down (100 miles) to tell DPs parents on Saturday. We then go on a holiday to Donegal for a week ( just dd and me) with friends of mine and their kids. Will be spilling the beans to them that week.

It was my birthday on Saturday and I struggled with the attention of 7 people (inc 4 kids) singing happy birthday to me. I'm terrified of the attention ill get when I tell about the baby. I want them just to know and not be excited - how weird is that?!

I'm needing to carefully lose a few lbs. my eating habits have been appalling recently and other than a few long walks, I've been v sedentary. I feel bleugh because if it. Need to get motivated!

Penny31 Mon 24-Jun-13 09:29:47

pidgy sorry you have been through such a tough time! I'm pleased you are on the road to recovery now. I'm sure your baby is fine, they are tough little things smile

chocoholicalcoholic Mon 24-Jun-13 10:14:25

Bloody hell pidgy! You've had a crazy time of it! Hope you're recovering well. I'm sure the baby will be fine, they're strong little things. Lovely that you've seen the heartbeat.

Can't remember anything else. Oooops. Good luck for scans, mine is tomorrow. Finally!

Glad sickness is easing for some, I think it is easing for me although am still chucking. Just not as frequent. Beginning of the end I hope!

Have a good day ladies.

MrsGSR Mon 24-Jun-13 10:37:09

pidgy sounds very stressful! Sorry you had to go through that, fx baby is fine, they are very well protected and having seen a heartbeat since is a very good sign smile

Good luck sultanajo and anyone telling work or family this week!
blue I know what you mean about attention, DH had been laughing at me as I keep sneaking out the room just before he tells people!

Bloody hell pidgy!

I've nothing to add to the thread, I'm 10+2. Ds was really sick on Saturday so spent the day in bed with me holding my hand. It was really hard because i wanted to sleep but just couldn't.

he seems ok now, so mil is taking him for a few hours so i can sleep because i feel awful now!

lovelilies Mon 24-Jun-13 10:44:36

pidgy thats quite an ordeal, to try and reassure you,I looked after a lady not long ago who had an ischemic bowel at 12 weeks so had a lot of bowel removed and a stoma formed. a couple of months later she had that reversed, got an infection, was v poorly, but all through this (lots of time in ITU) ops etc, the baby is fine, she's about 30 weeks pg now... grin

chocoloulou33 Mon 24-Jun-13 10:58:16

Morning all. pidgy bless ya, uve been thru hell. Glad to hear ur now getting better, hopefully will be all good from now x
Good luck telling work sultana
Hope everyone else has a good day. Down here in kent the weather is still like winter brrrr! Bring on the summer already!! Day off for me 2day where housework & watching wimbledon awaits me smile x

Naturegirl82 Mon 24-Jun-13 13:24:11

pidgy sorry to hear you've had such a hard time. fx you're fully on the mend.

Just thought I'd pop on to say I'm sat at my desk in utter comfort in my under bump jeans and non-wired bra! Feel silly for having put it off for so long! smile

TobyLerone Mon 24-Jun-13 15:28:32

Is is just me finding under-bump jeans really uncomfortable? I've got mine done up as tight as poss and am having to wear a belt (I may have bought the wrong size), and the buttons on the elastic are really digging in. But none of my proper clothes will go near me, so I'm really struggling to find stuff to wear. I'm tired of looking fat!

I've done all my Monday chores and now I'm painting my nails and watching Wimbledon. I love being a SAHM grin Got to go to DS's parents' evening later, though. So it's not all fun!

Naturegirl82 Mon 24-Jun-13 16:02:33

I've found mine really comfy today tobylerone but I'm not wearing a belt with them so don't know if that is making a difference.

Penny31 Mon 24-Jun-13 16:03:22

I want to be watching Wimbledon! I have no chance of being a SAHM sad I'm the main earner I'm our house grrrrr

Pidgy Mon 24-Jun-13 16:04:25

Aw, thanks lovely ladies. Ive got fingers snd tors crossed that this one will be healthy. It's weird, I did really want a little girl as i have a DS, but now I just want this baby to be healthy. I think it's a fighter though!

I'm sure the worst is certainly behind me. I really was thinking for about 2 weeks before i got admitted that I was soooo exhausted, bloated, just feeling weird etc. that I could never do this again, and how much worse this pregnancy was compared to my first. Think it was just building up as except for the soreness, feel a whole lot better than even then. :-)

I really should invest in some under the bump jeans or something. I do have a few over the bump trousers and leggings, but even during the winter these felt too warm with that little radiator growing and growing!
I'm trying to get away with my normal maxi dresses and skirts but my wardrobe is very limited at the moment!
Lucky I'm not actually up to leaving the house yet!

Where are people getting their maternity clothes from?

I found the next website pretty good with my DS. If you search under 'maternity' on their sale page quite a few bargains came up. Must remember to take a look.

Oh, and need to get DH to get my clothes back down from the loft. Only got him to put them up there about 3 months ago! Oops! Little did we know. Just hoping and hoping all is well.

Good few weeks to be resting at home - tennis!!

Penny31 Mon 24-Jun-13 16:04:32

I find my jeans really comfy too, there aren't any buttons though, just stretchy elastic. I am struggling to find work trousers though

bugsyburge Mon 24-Jun-13 16:21:36

afternoon all

well I feel dreadul today.... had a busy weekend but I thought I'd combatted that with 8 hours sleep last night. however ive felt tired & run down all day.... that combined with massive bloat & work makes for a pretty grumpy bugsy!!!

anyone else feel pants?

Apparentlychilled Mon 24-Jun-13 16:38:25

I felt awful yesterday bugsy, after a really busy day on Saturday. A nap yesterday for an hour and an early night means that I feel OK-ish today.

Weirdly, I don't feel that sick today. So, of course that means I'm worrying something is wrong, even though I saw the heartbeat last week (at 8 + 5). Hmm. Must not worry

Wow pidgy, you've really been through the mill!

I'm off sick today after spending all of yesterday throwing up. (Including in the leisure centre car park. New low). Trying to rest and rehydrate!

I've bought some black under bump jeans from asos, which are comfy, but my god they fall down a lot. Over bump ones are so much better, but given I have no bump, just extra lard, I can't do that for a few months.

MrsGSR Mon 24-Jun-13 16:51:07

pidgy I've bought a few maternity bits from new look, and I've got my eye on some from next, gap and ebay!

Sultanajo Mon 24-Jun-13 17:05:42

Pidgy blimey! You have been properly through the mill - so glad you are now out the other side and it's great you saw your LO heartbeat! They are amazingly resilient!

Blue I hear ya - I too need to get moving soon before my ass doesn't fit in the bath any more!!! wink I also know what you mean by attention - I have started telling people at work today and as much as it's a relief to not have to hide it anymore, I am cringing and finding myself changing the subject very quickly after mentioning it! What is WRONG with us??? blush

Toby no, my mat jeans are actually really quite comfy - much more comfy than my regular jeans - I can sit down in them without being cut in half, which is my main issue at the moment! These are the ones I got - www.amazon.co.uk/Pink-Pixie-Boyfriend-Maternity-Stretch/dp/B00AJJNOSW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1372089476&sr=8-2&keywords=pink+pixie+maternity+jeans

Still have to wear a belt with them, but a huge improvement!!! Am well jel about your wimbledoning/nail polishing/SAHMness today! Would LOVE to do the same, but sadly without a lottery win I don't think it will happen....

Nature so pleased you are comfy! I too am in full mat attire today (well new bra and jeans) and feeling happier!

Bugsy and enjoying so sorry you are feeling so rough. Throwing up in public places is never fun *enjoying". hmm It really sucks when it hits you! I (touch wood) am not feeling too bad today, although I can feel it getting worse as the day goes on - am training til late tonight so really hoping it doesn't really decide to rev up...

Well, told my boss today and it feels like a weight has been lifted! He didn't ask details, so didn't feel I could say "soooo, let's organise when my last day will be so I can start counting down".... but am sure that will come in time.

MrsAVB Mon 24-Jun-13 17:09:07

Hey y'all!
Have had a mad weekend so haven't been around much. How were your weekends?
So am going to bore fill you in on my wonderful scan on Friday as didn't post properly. It was AMAZING how much they could see and measure! Blood flow to all the major organs, chambers of the heart, feet and hands, spine, eye sockets, pallet, infra-red showing the blood flow in different directions and in the umbilical cord. Am so thankful that everything is "normal" (although of course, any baby of mine is going to be EXTRAordinary!). Screening (combined blood and nuchal) decreased my background risk, based on age etc. from 1:600ish to 1: 19000 for downs and other trisonomies so although I was really unsure about having that done, am really happy I did. Foofoo scan showed (tmi) I have a long cervix and good blood flow which are both good things! And bean was dancing/ turning/ waving - so exciting to see! We were there for about 2.5 hours in total.
In other news, am still being sick which is a bit of a bore! Can someone please memo bean to let him/her know that I'm past 12 weeks now?
Travelled to tell family; no tears as yet damnit!
Belly is definitely pronounced now, although still in my normal clothes. Have employed the hair band over button trick today on my work trousers and don't think it'll be long before I have to start stealing stuff from friends with babies splashing out. Am finally back up to my pre- BFP weight.
Anyway, sorry for the me me me!
enormouse and others with baby brain, I am sympathising. Yesterday I put face cream on my hair hmm
pidgy so sorry to hear you've been so poorly. Am sure bean is fine; concentrate on resting up.
humpty hen do sounds like a nightmare, poor you. And with no alcohol to numb the pain.
pea, chocco and my fellow vom club members, how are you doing?
Lots of love all... X

Apparentlychilled Mon 24-Jun-13 17:19:54

pidgy- I'm sure that your little one is indeed a fighter, and that having made it this far, and through major surgery, the danger time has passed. Enjoy resting and the tennis!

Penny31 Mon 24-Jun-13 17:38:38

Got my combined test results back 1:3981. Happy with that. I'm 33 and nuchal measurement was 2.2mm so I'm assuming that's why it's not even lower risk...

pidgy blimey missus - you take it easy now! That sounds awful!

MrsAVB is that your 12 week scan then? Sounds ace! 2.5hrs? is that usual? Mine is next week, have to book time off work for it, I was assuming 20 mins grin...

Yay for good/low risk numbers, that's ace.

I spent today teaching bunches of 15 year olds - great fun. They were lovely and v enthusiastic. A bit sore from all the standing, but otherwise, feeling pretty much okay (a bit nauseous first thing).

toby my Mamas and Papas under-bump jeans are comfy BUT they are seriously lowrise. As in bumcrack on display (or would be except for granny pants) at ALL TIMES. I do not like this. I need longer tops. They also feel a bit 'loose' at the top as if they need a bump to hold them up.

TobyLerone Mon 24-Jun-13 18:14:37

Great news on the test results, Penny and MrsA grin

Frizz1986 Mon 24-Jun-13 18:27:58

Wow pidgy thats a bit mental. Am sure baby will be fine. They are so resiliant! They must get knocked around like anything in there but it doesnt seem to bother them.

I couldnt wear my mat trousers to work as you can see the elastic panels so theyll have to wait until everyone knows but as scan is apin a week it shouldnt be long. Really cant wait to havea bump to fill over bump clothes. I think i just want to actually look pregnant!

mrsa is that long normal? I was assuming more an hour. Am using my car breaking down as a reason for being late as scan is at 8:30. Boss knows but need an excuse so the rest of the office isnt suspicious and my car is a well known disaster (a side panel on the door blew off in the wind overnight) so i thought it might be believable!

I am being piggy tonight and having chinese and i dont care. Dh had an interview today and didnt get the job as they went to 2 nqt teachers instead (nqts are cheaper so prob the only reason they got the jobs) Dh is pretty upbeat but i know he wouldnt tell me how he is really feeling and am worried he is really upset deep down. There is only 4 and a half weeks until the school year ends and i really want him to get something as he works so hard all year and has been messed around by every school he has worked for.
Am sure we will survive whatever but its really hitting his self confidence and he so shy normally so...... just hope the pressure of a baby as well doenst make it worse for him.

Have no idea what any one else has said......sorry. My mind is mush! Good luck for scans, hope people are feeling less sick and also good luck anyone telling work/family/friends etc.

Now to put some plates in to warm.....

flowersfortea Mon 24-Jun-13 19:24:59

Hi everyone,
Just catching up on all the news.
Pidgy - hope you're feeling more on the mend now. Baby will be all tucked up safely and cosily in your womb.
I'm 11 weeks now by my dates and still no word from midwives or anything. So I was ringing around today (passed from a few departments) and eventually spoke to someone who promised to ring me back today but no luck! Even if we miss the deadline for NT screening, I just want to be in the system all booked in, bloods checked, and see baby on the scan to know it's all ok.

Started to tell a few more family members and close friends now. It's lovely telling them but I also feel a bit cagey about it in case things go wrong and I've got them all excited for nothing.

BY the way, thank you whoever said PREGNAJUICE, made me laugh out loud and made my day!

Toothfairy78 Mon 24-Jun-13 19:34:07

Crikey pidgy that sounds a bit scary! I hope things improve soon!

Sounds like some awesome scans took place today too!

Today I feel like a right hog. I came home absolutely hank marvin' and had a whole carton of chicken soup, some snack-a-jacks and a mini samosa. Dinner will be later when dh gets in...

It's also my 12-week-a-versary today! First Scan tomorrow morning, which will help crystallise the mind for writing our wills in the afternoon...big day ahead!

Penny31 Mon 24-Jun-13 19:57:20

Good luck for your scan tomorrow tooth

sarahleanne Mon 24-Jun-13 20:02:41

havn't had time to read through any posts yet but just had to come on and screaaaam as im so happy.
dh has been offered a job today on the oil rigs (we were seriously starting to panick as he is leaving the navy in 3 months) just feel like such a weight has been lifted..phew!!

scan tomorrow at 9:50 to check why im bleeding, i hope its good news and not bad cus that would totally piss on my fire haha.

will catch up on posts later when i have dragged my ds up to bed for the fifth time tonight!!

hope everyone is doing well , could do with a glass of wine lol

quackojuliet Mon 24-Jun-13 20:12:35

Good luck for your scan tooth!
We had our dating scan today, all was fab! dated me at 11+3 which is just one day off the LMP date. Baby was bouncing around, wriggling little arms and legs, it was wonderful!
seeing the midwife for booking-in on weds, which seems very late and the sonographer was surprised we hadn't been asked about tests etc already, since she was doing the down's measurement without our having opted, or discussed it with a doc/midwife. anyway measurement was just 1mm which is good.
still not sure whether to go for the combined tests etc...i worry it would make me anxious if we were told high risk and then didn;t want the diagnostic tests. i am a worrier!
felt sick again today, after a few good days i'm hoping it;s just a one off down to spicy slightly greasy meal out last night.

MrsGSR Mon 24-Jun-13 20:40:40

Good luck for your scans tooth and sarah! and anyone else with scans this week smile

and congratulations sarah on your DHs job!

MrsAVB Mon 24-Jun-13 20:45:06

Re. scan - it said in my appointment letter to expect to be there for 2 hours, also that there are sometimes delays because of emergency scans etc., although we were only about 10 mins late being seen. It's a research centre so I think maybe it took longer than average as they measure more things than at other hospitals, also I don't think everywhere does the foof scan bit at 12 weeks? Some of the research stuff, the screening, and the foof scan were optional but we said yes to everything, and glad we did as it gave us more screen time. And they processed blood tests for combined screening straight away (I think other hospitals call you in a few days with the results?) so there was a small wait for that too. But I haven't had a scan anywhere else so don't know how it compares really.
penny congrats on results!
tooth and sarah good luck for scans tomorrow!
quack congrats on lovely scan! If its any consolation, when we booked in just over a week before scan, the midwife didn't ask us anything about screenings, it was only when we came to our scan we were asked.

extracrunchy Mon 24-Jun-13 21:03:25

Just catching up and can't for the life of me remember who said what... Except Pidgy - I'm sure baby is snuggled up safe.

Congrats on the good tests/scans and good luck to those having more tomorrow.

SarahL great news re your OH's job!

I just got offered a second interview for a job I applied for before we knew about number 2... Don't know what to do! I'm going a bit mad at home with DS, and he's ready for some nursery, but would be 3 full days at nursery 8-6, which seems a bit much given we're together all the time atm. Also how does maternity leave work when you start work while preggers? And should I tell them at the interview?? Argh! (This is all assuming I get it - hah!)

TarkaTheOtter Mon 24-Jun-13 21:19:35

Hi everyone, just catching up after a weeks holiday then a week with awful sickness where I haven't had the energy to catch up on you chatty lot.

penny congratulations on the test result. Think 2.2mm is quite normal for 13weeks (the later the bigger it is). I googled a lot with dd as had 1:160 risk.

I also have a scan tomorrow. Caved and booked a private one as big family event on Saturday and the constant vomiting is a bit of a giveaway. Just want reassurance that everything is going well before extended family find out. Will be 11weeks 3days. NHS scan is next thurs so not that far off either!

Anyone else already classified as high risk? I have so many appts booked already because I had gd with dd. I'm having the gtt at 14weeks, then a consultants appt at 15weeks, then midwife at 16 weeks. They don't even know if I have gd yet. Good job I'm not working!

MrsAVB Mon 24-Jun-13 21:24:15

extra, I was offered a job a month or so ago and chose to turn it down for various reasons. With maternity leave, you have the same entitlement, it's maternity pay that's slightly different, and unless you have a very generous employer who offers more than the statutory minimum, you won't get SMP - the first 6 weeks at 90% if you are already pg when you start a new job, but will go straight onto MA at £130something a week. this factsheet from Valuing Maternity is useful. I wouldn't tell them at interview. They can't withdraw an offer on finding out you're pregnant, but they could have ways and means of not offering you the job if you did tell them.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 24-Jun-13 21:25:15

extra that's a tricky one. I wouldn't tell them. By law they are not allowed to use it as a factor in their decision (i think) so they have no legitimate reason to know before they make you an offer.
I don't think you'd get any mat pay but you would accrue holiday and have the same mat leave rights as anyone else.
Might get maternity allowance, can't remember what the criteria are but it is on the direct.gov website.

TarkaTheOtter Mon 24-Jun-13 21:26:31

X-post with the much better informed mrsavb smile

sarahleanne Mon 24-Jun-13 21:38:25

tarka- im classed as high risk as i had pre-eclampsia with my first and was admitted ad high blood pressure with my second and i also have group b strep.Therefore im also under consultant care as well as the midwife.

thankyou for the congrats on the job front.
extra i say go for it smile but thats just my personal opinion.

MrsVDB Mon 24-Jun-13 21:42:31

extra I interviewed and took a job when I knew, didn't say anything in the interview but told them in my acceptance email. I expect all companies are different but my hr dept said I don't officially have to say anything until 6 months but I did to start relationship on right foot. They couldn't take offer back just because I'm pregnant. Mines at same company just different division so not sure about pay I'm afraid

MrsAVB Mon 24-Jun-13 21:46:10

Ooh look tennis!

Apparentlychilled Mon 24-Jun-13 22:25:55

Feeling a bit freaked out- all my symptoms seem to have gone: not felt queasy all day, boobs not sore and ocerwhelming exhaustion gone. I know I shd be grateful (esp as I've had no cramping or bleeding), but after my ectopic last year, I'm really scared something is going to I wrong w this one.

Anyone else symptom free but all ok?

Frogcatcher Mon 24-Jun-13 23:18:13

How far along are you apparently? I'm 11 wks & my queasiness, fatigue & sore boobs have gone in the last few days. I'm now panicking & not been sent a date for my Nhs scan yet so have booked a private one tmrw at the place I had my 8 week one. Is that an option if you're really worried?

I'm going to be job hunting but I'm planning to be totally upfront from the outset & offer to work on a temporary contract to maternity leave. This is partly because I work in an incestuous industry where you never quite know who will turn up again where & am getting referrals through people i know as well so I don't want anyone to feel I've deceived them. Obviously if that wasn't the case I'd be keeping schtum!

MrsGSR Mon 24-Jun-13 23:33:13

tarka I'm not high risk, but having the blood test for gestational diabetes as dad is type 2, and had to have some extra blood tests as I've got Mediterranean ancestry.

I'm 10 weeks and nausea seems to be fading, I know someone down thread stopped having symptoms but had a scan that showed everything was fine smile

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 05:05:28

I went to bed at 8.30 last night. So obviously I'm wide awake now sad

extra, what everyone else said. Don't tell them yet, but tell them when they offer it to you.

tarka, I'm potentially high risk due to fibroids, but there's no way of telling what will happen with them, so it's just a case of 'wait and see'. I'll be seeing a consultant, but my mw is hopeful that I'll be mostly mw-led.

LittlePeaPod Tue 25-Jun-13 06:27:44

Morning ladies

Wow can't believe how quickly this thread moved since my last post. Sorry not been on much. We are starting work on the house and internet keeps going up and down. Also got caught up in a heated debated on the AIBU threads regarding the teacher that got five and half years for abduction and sexual offences... Those threads really do get heated. hmm. And last but not least not really had much news to give.. Still really sick, still got food aversion but come to accept ths is probably it for me in this pregancy. So my thoughts with everyone still suffering. MrsA Chocco, Sultanajo etc. how are you feeling now?

Read through the thread but can't remember who sai what. So big congratulations on all the great news regarding scans and tests. Also congratulations to everyone that has reached their 12 week milestone.

Pidgey your experience really puts things into perspective. So glad to hear you are doing well and I am sure your baby will be fine and snuggling away..

A couple of questions ladies

1) had my NHS 12 week scan yesterday and they thought I measured 12+4 rather that 11+6. Sonograher stuck with 11+6 on notes though as she said the earlier in pregnancy you are dated the more accurate. So its my 12 week celebrations today.. Don't understand but went with it. Chickpea looks amazing, is still wriggling about and has grown so much. I got the down scan results and she said Chickpea was measuring in the normal range 1.6mm. What does this actually mean? We get NHS blood results back in a couple weeks.

2) has anyone else noticed that your tummy seems to grow and expand through the day? Or am I just imagining this?

Enjoy your day ladies and good luck to all those with scans, tests and due test results this week.. smile

Apparentlychilled Tue 25-Jun-13 06:57:00

9 +4. So surely too early for symptoms to ease?!

vix206 Tue 25-Jun-13 07:16:21

Apparently, I'm 9+2 and my symptoms eased last week. All is fine here, I just picked up baby's heartbeat with my home Doppler grin

I was the same with DS, please try not to worry. Symptoms do come and go.

MrsVDB Tue 25-Jun-13 07:25:17

apparently I posted a couple of weeks back that symptoms went at 6+4 and was sure it was mmc even though no bleeding or cramping. I've had 2 scans, last one last week at 8+3, all was fine. I'm 9+3 today and still hardly any symptoms. I'm just hoping my body is defying text books and placenta took over really early. Either that or I'm really lucky! Try not to worry. Midwife did say to pop back to epu if I'm worried. Maybe you could do that?

MrsVDB Tue 25-Jun-13 07:30:20

vix wow I didn't realise you could do that so early?! Must put your mind at ease. At epu they said to me they don't listen for heartbeat this early due to the heat (I think like ultrasound heat rather than hot heat) that they create. Have you heard anything about this? I'm starting to get very tempted!! I also have a podgy belly so would this make it harder?

pea I get much bigger through the day. My mac does up easily in the morning but by the evening I struggle to do the buttons up!! I even indulged in a pregnant lady waddle the other day at the station even though I know it's only bloat ha ha

vix206 Tue 25-Jun-13 07:38:48

Yes the midwife etc. will tell you not to try and find a heartbeat before 14 weeks or so but I knew I did it with DS last time round. It is possible with a full bladder and a lot of patience. They don't like you to do it because a lot of ladies can't find the hb and then go into panic mode which is understandable. After my MC in March I just wanted the reassurance.

I am very slim (except for bloat!!) which apparently helps this early on to find the heartbeat.

vix206 Tue 25-Jun-13 07:39:27

Ps I've never heard anything about heat being generated. My Doppler doesn't generate heat.

Vatta Tue 25-Jun-13 08:19:11

vix I think it's not real heat but ultrasound heat if that makes sense? The nhs don't use dopplers early because there's a concern about risk. I think in pregnancy everything seems to have some risk though!

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 08:24:22

My ultrasonographer also said something about Dopplers perhaps being harmful in early pregnancy, which is why you don't hear the heartbeat at most scans. It puts a lot of pressure on the baby's heart, apparently.

Congrats on your scan, Pod. I'd want to stick with the earlier date, too. So far I'm 2 for 2 on going to 42 weeks, so anything which makes that (and therefore induction) less likely is ok in my book!

I've just booked my NCT classes. Bit nervous because the scan's not until Thursday, but today was the deadline for reserving my place. They're not taking the payment until the beginning of August, though, so I can always cancel.

vix206 Tue 25-Jun-13 08:31:20

Yes there are some views on dopplers like this but I looked into it very carefully and am satisfied (and my gp agreed) that my little handheld home Doppler is not harmful when used infrequently for short times. It's something you can only decide for yourself once armed with facts.

For me the reassurance I've had this morning is priceless. I won't be using it again now as I'm just happy to know there is a baby in there this time.

MrsAVB Tue 25-Jun-13 08:44:12

pea sorry to hear you're still feeling grotty. Have things improved at all? Hope you are managing to eat a little. I am still vomming regularly, have had I think 5 random days when I haven't, but then it's come back with a vengeance! But I think my appetite is better and am able to eat a bit more healthily. Am still on max dose of meds. Re. scan dates, my notes have two EDDs on; one is EDD by ultrasound (01/01) and one gestational by LMP (06/01). Interesting about earlier scans being more accurate though, although I didn't have any before 12 week. Personally am going with the earlier date as this fits better with when I am likely to have conceived... Although I guess it doesn't really matter as its not likely to come on the exact date either way! My belly definitely feels bigger at the end of the day, but not sure whether it actually is, or if its just more uncomfortable then.
Have a good day everyone!

TarkaTheOtter Tue 25-Jun-13 09:22:00

Yes I have a bump that magically deflates over night every night.

Penny31 Tue 25-Jun-13 09:50:36

I have that type of bump too. Although today it's big already this morning! It's more like rolls of fat over the top of trousers when I sit down though, so not attractive! I also have developed a hideously dry scalp. When will I bloom please?

BuntCadger Tue 25-Jun-13 10:19:50

I don't get on here enough to fully keep up and by time I do it's often late at night and I'm exhausted.

Just marking place again, scan on Thursday so ill try and update on that. Re dates lmp puts me at 1/1/14 but sneaky scan by consultant put me 14/1/14 so going to see what scan on Thursday says. I doubt ill go past edd or that they'll let me as my babies have been large for my size. They'd booked me for induction with dd for day after edd but she arrived on due day by herself! 9lb3

LittlePeaPod Tue 25-Jun-13 10:50:12

Glad to hear I am not the only one with an inflatable/deflectable tummy. grin

MrsVDB the pregnant lady waddle just made me laugh out loud. Brilliant!

Toby good point on the earlier date. Thanks for that I didn't even consider it! I too have booked DF and I onto NCT classes. Ours start Oct/Nov.

MrsAVB No change here really however over time I have found some foods that I can eat if I get them down as soon as I have an urge. Like you I am still vomming as well. So basically carrying food (carrot sticks/certain fruit/ dairylea breadstick dunkers/Bombay Mix I know strange selection and a couple other things) around with me all the time. I am so pleased to hear your appetite is coming back. That's brilliant news even if the horrible vomming wont do one just yet. You are right about dates not mattering by the way… NHS Sonographer just said to me"this baby will come when it's good and ready. Not before and not after"

Penny ohhhh the dry scalp sounds unpleasant. Is it itchy too? My skin is starting to dry out but I have started lathering on Bio Oil mixed with Coco butter and E45…. Not that I am paranoid about stretch marks or anything grin

Stretch marks OK a bit of shallow vanity time now…. Has anyone else started lathering on oils/creams to try and reduce/stop stretch marks? I know this is probably down to genetics and locations/ oils apparently don't hit the dermis which is what is damaged but second/third etc. time mums what did you use that you swear by? I will try anything just so I know I tried… Mental, yes I know I sound totally mad and vain!!

NCT has anyone considered/historically done the post-natal NCT classes? And were they any good?

With regards the doppler I didn't get one because MW told me she would not advise it as there wasn't enough research to be able to say whether dopplers are safe to use in early pregnancy when the baby is at it's most fundamental development stage. She said that this was one of the reasons they stopped using it as well as the fact it can cause more concern when a heart beat is not detected. The other thing that scare the bejesus out of me was learning that the frequency concentration levels of dopplers are great than the general ultrasound machine because it has to penetrate deeper into the baby's little body. Apparently one minute of Doppler exposure equals 35 minutes of real-time ultrasound. That seemed a little intense for me. But like someone said earlier there are risks to everything we do/eat whilst pregnant so it's about how averse to risk each individual is as to whether or not the use the Doppler or eat stuff (tuna, shell fish, have a little wine/bubbly etc.)

MrsGSR Tue 25-Jun-13 11:08:41

pod I'm using bio oil in the hopes of avoiding stretch marks! I know it probably won't do anything but it makes me feel better. Although it helped some scars disappear so I guess it must do something. Celebrities never seem to have stretch marks and it would be a big coincidence if they all just had good genes!

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 11:25:11

That's basically what the sonographer said to me, Pod about the doppler (including hearing the heartbeat during the ultrasound). I hadn't realised it was any more than just turning the sound on during the scan!

Re stretch marks -- I really don't think it makes any difference. If your mum has them, chances are you'll have them. If you have them anywhere else, from just normal growing, chances are you'll get more during pregnancy. And celebrities do have them! There are entire websites devoted to it!

Morning grin.

apparently give it a day or so. I've had the same panics, around the same time as you. Nausea came back with a vengeance a couple of days after. Quite reassuring!

pea I also swell and deflate during the day. In certain dresses I look 4 months gone, in some clothes I am not bumpy at all.

Re first scan - I'm allowing about 2 hours, but mainly cos at the Royal London, they do bloods in Phlebotomy, so you have to go and queue. No idea though, have told boss my 'physio' was running late 'last time' so I'll keep him updated. Have booked three hours total (incl journey time). Cannot wait to be done with all the deception!

Felt appalling again this morning, gah. I did vary my breakfast again (^foolish Humpty, bean only likes Marmite on toast^) so that may be why. Appetite is recovering though, so that's nice.

MrsGSR Tue 25-Jun-13 12:07:07

toby I'm glad I'm not famous then! Me and mum both had them on our hips and thighs from puberty, but mum didn't get any in either of her pregnancies so I'm hoping I can avoid them, I quite like my stomach!

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 12:36:29

Afternoon all - lots to catch up on <takes deep breath>...

MrsAVB that sounds like a fab scan! How amazing the detail they went into with you - that's really special!!! grin Loving the "can you pass a memo to bean...". Plus your discovery of the tennis ball! How cool!

Frizz will keep everything crossed for your DP. Bless him! Awful having your confidence knocked, especially when you try so hard!

Flowers they really are keeping you in suspense - hope you get some answers and dates out of them soon!

Tooth happy 12-week-aversary for yesterday and really hope your scan today goes well!

SarahL what fabulous news about your DH! What a relief! Really hope you have equally good news today at your scan...

Quack another fabulous scan story! So exciting!!!

Extra I have no advice but really good luck with the interview. I also wouldnt tell them unless they offer me the job.

Tarka good luck with the scan - hope it goes OK!

Pod really sorry you are still so rough - great you have identified a few "go to" snacks, but how exhausting! For me the last couple of days were much better and I thought I was coming out the other side, but today is back to ++nausea. However, I am able to tolerate more smells and am slowly getting a wider range of food I can eat which is definitely an improvement! The 1.6mm is the fluid at the back of the neck. They normally are particularly concerned about a measurement of 3.5mm or over, which can be indicative of certain condtions, such as downs.

And yes, my stomach definitely inflates as the day goes on (with some trapped wind to exacerbate it over the last couple of days too - joy!)

Humpty can't believe you varied your brekkie again! Have you not learnt from the other day??? wink

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 12:38:52

I too would be interested to hear anyone's experiences of NCT postnatal courses as they are currently trying to get me to book one....

Shit, forgot to say: extra on the job front. Don't tell them (IMHO) - employers have every opportunity to screw you over, and they will. SMP is shit enough already (6 WEEKS at 90% followed by £130 a week - insulting), don't let them take more away from you!

Naturegirl82 Tue 25-Jun-13 13:12:49

Well I feel rough today. Thrown up twice at work. I've not had ms at all (I'm now 10+2) so think I might just be ill. Don't want to be a wuss and go home if it is pg related though sad. Meant to be going out for dinner with work people tonight as well.

Naturegirl82 Tue 25-Jun-13 13:36:08

Realised that sounded a bit bad. I meant if it is pg related I would feel a fraud going home when a lot of you ladies have had it so bad and managed to carry on.

MrsVDB Tue 25-Jun-13 13:44:16

toby that explains why the lady said she doesn't normally put the sound on when scanning (but did on this occasion as I was so paranoid sobbing like a crazy lady ) I thought at the time why doesn't she just turn the volume up so you can hear it every time!!

Pidgy Tue 25-Jun-13 13:46:04

Afternoon all!

pea, Naturegirl and anyone else feeling sicky, sorry to hear it. Hope it passes soon.
And those not, don't worry! Someone I know NEVER felt sick and had no symptoms (except for bfp) and her baby is now 2!

I'm keeping mine under control by eating, eating and eating! I've lost 8lb so I don't feel guilty at all! Any other time I'd be really pleased as I'm now almost back at my wedding weight, but now is not the time for weight loss.

We've got cheese and marmite sausages tonight - my ultimate craving food! Just hope they live up to my expectations! Might take a smell or a bite and could go wrong. We will see!

Re: stretch marks. I lathered bio oil, then boots own stretch oil (cheaper but thinner), and was given some meals yard mothers balm (doesn't smell of much but v moisturising) during my last pregnancy. I got 1 tiny stretch mark where my belly piercing was, and nothing else. My mum and grandma didn't either so not sure if that has anything to do with it.

I'm not sure the creams work but worth a try. If you get them tho, try to think of yourself as a tiger who earned her stripes! ;-)

Penny31 Tue 25-Jun-13 13:51:58

Arghhhhhh just had my lunch and I'm bursting out of my trousers! They are a size bigger than normal too! Desperate to find some nice maternity ones now.

I wish I hadn't used my Doppler now. I haven't used it for weeks and did use it a lot anyway. Scan showed heartbeat was fine, I just hope I haven't done anything to baby's ears!

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 13:56:03

It's more the pressure on the heart they worry about, as far as I understood it, Penny, and your baby's obviously looks perfectly healthy on the scan so I'm sure it's fine. I think it's more that they don't know exactly what the effects are, so they err on the side of caution.

I only know, MrsV, because I asked at my private scan about hearing the heartbeat. I remembered Pod(?) and someone else saying that they'd heart the HB and knew the rate from v early scans, so I thought it was just a case of turning the volume up, too!

stretch marks I'm already getting one just above my fanjo. SEXAH. I had loads as a teen, so not surprised and my Mum has millions. I don't mind them. I am v itchy, so use an oil to ease that, but have no illusions of it helping with stretch marks!

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 14:08:00

I have them too. Mine are very old, though, and practically invisible. My mum has loads, and my sisters. I was never going to escape that.

toby my old ones are invisible too now. Just sort of a different texture in places (boobs, mainly). I don't think they're ugly, just part of human existence, tbh. Not in a earth mother woo kind of way, I just think you have to accept them. It would be like trying somehow not to have a bump whilst pregnant!

TobyLerone Tue 25-Jun-13 14:36:47

I only have them on my belly. A couple on my hips, but none on my boobs. I used to hate them. Now I kind of love them.

I got a load of stretch marks when I was a teenager - all over my hips, thighs and some on my boobs, but not a single one when I was pregnant with DS. Weird.

I honestly think it's pot luck, but a bit of nice moisturiser never hurt anyone, did it wink

farmersdaughter Tue 25-Jun-13 16:22:13

I am here, but I'm not here...it's Wimbledon and i'm glued to the sofa whist trying very hard not to throw up.

Sending best wishes to everyone. x

Vatta Tue 25-Jun-13 16:23:25

I've bought burt's bees belly mama - don't know if it will do anything to prevent stretch marks but it's helping with the itchiness.

vix206 Tue 25-Jun-13 16:41:00

My last word on dopplers but Penny don't fret. As I say my DS, my friends children and tens of thousands of other children are all absolutely fine after the use of a doppler.

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 17:19:02

My skin and scalp have suddenly gone dry - never normally an issue. I already have a few stretch marks on my boobs, hips and thighs from puberty, but they are all mostly silver now and not very noticeable. Hope I wont get too many more in pregnancy, but what will be will be. They arent high on my list of worries, but will probably need to start moisturising purely to stop myself turning into a scaley reptile if this dryness continues! grin Bought the bodyshop chocomania lotion and it smells lush!

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 17:26:19

penny although there are obviously concerns re the dopplers and nobody is sure of the effects, I cant help thinking if there was a really serious risk it would be plastered all over the internet/midwives would ensure we dont use them/warnings would be all over the main pregnancy websites. When I bought mine I wasnt made aware of anything and a lot of my friends used them throughout without any issues. I will think twice about using mine now just in case after hearing what everyone has said, but not going to stress about using it a few times already....--well going to pretend I am not stressing about it anyway--wink

MrsAVB Tue 25-Jun-13 17:31:37

Oof... Just had to run for the train in heels, geez... It's tough being a woman!
Stretch marks - I have a few on my hips due to university diet/ lack of portion control but they are mostly invisible unless you were really looking. Have bought some of the palmers cocoa butter stretch mark cream (it's on 3 for 2 at sainsburys with other toiletries ATM).
Does anyone know anything re. annual leave and maternity leave? Is it at employers discretion or is there legal guidance? Basically my office closes for Christmas anyway and we all get additional leave (on top on a/l). Ideally (and if im well) i want to work up til then, then start mat leave when everyone else goes back in jan. Annual leave year finishes at end of march and we are not allowed to carry over, does this mean I have to take it before mat leave (and therefore before Christmas closure), or is there a way of taking it in jan/ feb/ march so I get maximum time off with babe? Or is this all up to my employer?

Not sure MrsAVB but I know you can add AL onto mat leave - I think (with reservations) at your discretion. I know several friends who have added an extra week or two on that way (at the beginning).
You also accrue it whilst on mat leave, so can extend the other end too if wanted.

Bluecarrot Tue 25-Jun-13 18:00:07

Might depend on employer avb. Mine made me take it at the start of my maternity leave. I was on the last day oft holiday leave the day dd was born ( early!)

I've been looking for offers on palmers-I love the smell of it! I have masses of stretch marks on belly and boobs already. Wonder if it means in unlikely to get more unless I am bigger than last time ( hope not!)

Where I work holidays go Jan to Dec. You are only allowed to take a week over if you have a baby. Normally it's nothing.

I'm going on mat leave the sat before Christmas and then I'll have loads of holidays to take when I go back in sept

Frogcatcher Tue 25-Jun-13 19:52:37

Evening all. I'm just back from my second private scan and everything fine. Was amazing to see bubs wriggling around so much. They dated me as 11+5 when I'm sure I can't be more than 11+1 big baby alert! confused. For all those whose symptoms have gone I have been feeling fine for almost a week now & all is still good despite my panic.

Sympathy to those still feeling rubbish. I know I have been v lucky to get off so lightly.

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 20:12:05

Yeay frog thats awesome! So pleased for you!

Mat leave wise, our holiday year is may-april, so saving all my hols for this year to hopefully tag onto the start of my mat leave, meaning hopefully I can go off mid november and then hopefully can tag what I accrue on the year off to the end, so hopefully will be off approx 1 year 2 months. Will have to see if they let me, but from others who have had mat leave they seem to prefer it all taken in one chunk, rather than broken up, which works for me! I think tagging on holidays is down to who u work for....

Frizz1986 Tue 25-Jun-13 20:49:58

My hols run jan to dec and i still have 6 days to book (already have 4 on the board). Am hoping to finish the friday before xmas then have my 6 days hol before my mat leave starts in jan. Then from jan to dec next year i will accrue my normal 25 days hol plus all the bank holidays.

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 21:01:32

Warning! Just because you start feeling a bit better, does NOT apparently allow you to indulge in a Burger King craving at lunch without some seriously shite consequences! Omg the heartburn and nausea! Am completely averse to all fluids again now and yet I am gagging (literally) for something todrink! Having to suck ice cubes which seems to be least of all evils. Feel like I have just taken a massive step backwards!

Remember this feeling Sultana! Apples and celery from now on you complete idiot! That will teach me to start to relax a bit! confused

alteredimages Tue 25-Jun-13 21:10:33

That's rubbish sultana. So sorry you're feeling bad. I have also sworn off junk food, though for other reasons entirely blush.

Need advice from you lovely ladies, especially those who've been through a miscarriage. My SIL had an ectopic pregnancy about two months ago and had the exact same due date as me. I didn't get round to telling her before she miscarried and after I have been reluctant to broach the subject. I will be seeing them in ten days time so want to call her tonight to let her know my news. Any things I should do/absolutely shouldn't do? Obviously will not go on about pregnancy and pregnancy symptoms etc. She will be the first to know in my family.

Thanks for any advice!

Toothfairy78 Tue 25-Jun-13 21:14:03

Evening all,
Thanks for all the well wishes. I have jut been woken up after a 2hr nap! Well I did go for a good long walk this afternoon scoring myself 2 bargainous maternity shirts at the local H&M (£7 Ea). The day was improved by getting a call for the boss saying I don't have to schlep out the West Mids tomorrow, nice people but a long way!

More importantly, we had our scan today, and it was awesome!! We saw one baby, having a very good wiggle about, waving their arms and stretching their legs!!! NT was fine and scan places me at 12+4, whereas lmp would say 12+1, so looking good so far! This was followed by well over an hour of cursing Apple devices and their crappy not talking to windows devices when trying to get scan pics onto iPad for the purposes of emailing! If they had been any other o/s we'd ve had the job done in under 10 freaking minutes! Grrr!

Was thinking I would pop over to egham tonight and tell the aikido club why I've been away so long but have inadvertently slept most of the evening. Oops.

Anyway, nice to see we're thinking ahead to stretch marks and mat leave. And I do love the smell of cocoa butter!

And pidgy nice to hear you are contemplating good solid food today these marmite sausages sound delicious. Are they something you make or buy?

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 21:22:41

tooth thats just awesome and you totally deserved the nap after so much excitement!,grin

Apparentlychilled Tue 25-Jun-13 21:25:08

altered I had an ectopic last October so maybe I can just tell you the things that DIDN'T help that people said?
- be grateful for the children you have (so not the point)
- not meant to be
- best just get on w it

The things I found helpful that people said were to say they were so sorry for our loss and to ask if there was anything they cd do. Anyone who had their own good news after my EP didn't really feel connected to my EP (my sister had a bfp and told me her news about 2 months after). I'd tell her that you appreciate it might be hard for her and that you're happy to talk about your pregnancy as much or as little as she likes. And maybe be aware that your EDD may be a tough day for her, for her own reasons. Even acknowledging that at the time would be lovely- I can't imagine she'd expect any more than that. You sound like a lovely SIL- I'm sure it'll be ok.

Sultanajo Tue 25-Jun-13 21:30:23

altered, its certainly tricky with it being so fresh and you having the same due date. I would just do as you are going to and be sensitive to her. I would let her know that what you have to tell her may not be easy to hear right now, which you completely understand, but you wanted her to be the first in the family to know and then take the lead from her....

Good luck - I hope it goes OK, but dont take it personally if her reaction isnt great. Everyone handles things differently and what she has been through is just awful, but you must also try not to feel guilty about your mini bump. I feel for you both.

MrsVDB Tue 25-Jun-13 21:34:54

altered we were due same week as sil but it was us who mc. Was very sad time. Told them about mc (hadn't told them about pg yet) so they could understand why we weren't as happy for them. Her husband was nice and said all the right things like if there's anything they can do etc but sil never said anything and when we said this upset us age said its because we had said we didn't want to talk about it. This upset us as we obviously wanted her to axknowledge it. Mil was also a total cuntpuffin and said that we and dh were up ourselves because we weren't excited for sil. Still not made up with them properly. I think just say you understand if she doesn't want to talk about it but you wanted her to know first.

Toothfairy78 Tue 25-Jun-13 21:48:25

Thanks sultana! And sorry to hear about the crap Burger King experience today. That totally sucks balls!

littlealien01 Tue 25-Jun-13 21:58:51


Been lurking for a while but first scan is on thurs so thought id join in. very excited to finally see baby but paranoid of there being something wrong/it not being real!

Im 11wks2d (i think) & quite fed up of the nausea now (although compared to the poor hg ladies i really havent got it too bad)

been in bed since 21:30 ( as is now normal for me) & am just exhausted...have any of you ladies found yourselves getting some energy back yet?? please give me hope that an end to this constant tiredness regardless of hoirs asleep is in sight!

Frogcatcher Tue 25-Jun-13 22:20:56

alien I'm about the same as you & actually feel normal again so it will end. I saw my mum yesterday for first time in about a month & she said I looked 10 times better. Although she didn't say anything last time she said I'd looked sallow drawn & awful. Cheers!
My miracle recovery may also have something to do with the fact that I finished work on Fri & not done anything about getting a new job yet so am mega relaxed & hadn't been working that hard for 2 wks before I left either. Pls don't throw things at me from envy those of you struggling with work.
I do have a stinky cold tho so not everything is great.

alteredimages Tue 25-Jun-13 22:44:56

Welcome littlealien!

I am 13 weeks tomorrow and I'm definitely feeling more full of energy this week. I was lucky that I only had nausea for the first 7 weeks or so but even so I'd been feeling pretty crap up til now.

Thanks apparently, sultana and mrsvdb for the wise words. In the end it was just DB home and SIL came in at the end knackered so decided to wait for a calmer day. I think things will be all right because we have been talking a lot about her loss and these past couple of weeks she's been very upbeat but of course this could bring things flooding back. Will definitely acknowledge her loss with something on the due date.

We live very far apart and I will be giving birth in paris so this should help as it won't be in her face and she'll only be as involved as she wants to be. I won't have any relatives with me either and they're not the clucking type so she shouldn't hear too much about it from them either hopefully.

Once this is done it's just the small matter of getting up the courage to tell my dad!

Sultanajo Wed 26-Jun-13 07:26:50

Welcome alien! Congratulations!

Glad you are feeling better frog despite the stinky cold! grin

Sultanajo Wed 26-Jun-13 07:30:24

altered it really sounds as though hopefully everything will work out all things considered - without clucky family and being in her face she can take the space she needs and as you say, be as involved as she wants!

Soooo...the burger king hangover lives on it would seem! Also humpty I tried changing to a more healthy brekkie of porridge this morning, hoping it would help, but now my stomach is making ominous noises so think I may be about to regret it! Ah well! sad

extracrunchy Wed 26-Jun-13 07:54:42

I have official NHS "12 week" scan today (13+5)!! DH hasn't seen Smudge in the flesh yet so exciting smile

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 07:59:15

altered, could you perhaps tell her a slightly different due date? Or even just say 'january'? It won't help much, but it might be a little less painful.

Good luck, extra!

Sultanajo Wed 26-Jun-13 08:10:46

Good luck extra! How exciting for your DH! grin

MrsAVB Wed 26-Jun-13 08:36:07

Welcome and congrats alien! I (very tentatively) think my energy is starting to one back up. Am 13 weeks today. But this might be more because I've resigned myself to having an hours nap after work, then going to bed at 9ish, and trying to avoid all after work evening socialising. I'm on meds for sickness and these make me tired too, so hopefully soon I'll be able to wean off these and then will feel even better. Bring on the bloom!
sultana commiserations on the BK fiasco. Changing breakfast is risky business... I think I am resigned to 1 slice of toast indefinitely.
extra good luck for scan today!

Pidgy Wed 26-Jun-13 09:03:05

Morning all.

tooth - I think we might live close! If you live near Egham anyway! I'm not too far away. The sausages are from a local farm shop (Lyne). Cheese and marmite - they are lovely!! Need to stock up on some more. I think they made them as a joke but they are now one of the most popular ones they sell!

alien - welcome!

My memory is so useless I can't remember specific names and stories. Sorry!

For all those positive scans- yay! Such a lovely feeling seeing them for the first time!

Who here is planning on finding out the flavour at 20 weeks?

I really want a surprise but I just know we'll find out again. We did with our first and for me it really helped me bond with him before he was born. There were no regrets. I did plan on keeping it secret too, but I'm useless at keeping secrets and I think everyone knew within a few days as I let slip by saying things like 'he'.

Have a good day everyone. X

extracrunchy Wed 26-Jun-13 09:29:21

Pidgy we're definitely finding out - same reason.

Forgot to say welcome alien!

Welcome Alien!

I'm 10+4 today, just over a week until the scan. I really want to go and see Bug 2 today just to know everything is ok. I'm holding onto the fact we saw the heartbeat at 7+5 so everything will be ok

Morning ladies,

altered (it was you, wasn't it?) I'd second toby's suggestion of being vague about EDD. Unless you are in the minority, you won't give birth on your EDD anyway.

I am off sick today, woke up with a chronic headache, felt dizzy and woolly and awful. Hope it's just from hayfever and a stuffy night.
Nausea pretty much gone (she says, from bed...) but still small appetite and tiredness, so I think at 11+5 I am starting to see the end in sight. Phew.

MrsAVB Wed 26-Jun-13 11:24:37

Hotmilk bras etc are on 70% off on casabu til 8am tomorrow. www.casabu.com/hotmilk.html

Penny31 Wed 26-Jun-13 11:28:36

Good luck to those with scans today!

I feel dreadful today. Can't keep my eyes open and I'm so tired I can barely speak! Sat here staring at my computer trying to look busy. Want to be at home on sofa watching Wimbledon sad

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 11:32:04

Dammit. I've just bought a bra and a dress thanks to you, MrsA!

I am so suggestible.

MrsAVB Wed 26-Jun-13 11:39:12

Haha grin. Did you buy the black dress toby? I was looking at that...
now... What else can I make toby do...? [evil genius face]

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 11:49:34

Yes grin

Percypiglet Wed 26-Jun-13 11:53:48

Pidgy and Tooth I think I might live near you both as well!!?

Have a good day all. DH and I are off work this week, so chilling out. Tonight we plan to tell DS and BIL who just lost their baby, not looking forward to it but we don't want them to feel excluded from the news either. Very difficult. Good luck altered with the same difficulties.

MrsVDB Wed 26-Jun-13 12:25:31

Ooh I'm tempted by that dress toby

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 12:32:48

I'm so bored of nothing fitting me. I'm certain that will fit and be comfortable!

keskiviikko Wed 26-Jun-13 12:49:37

I have my 12 week scan tomorrow. Hopefully then I will start to feel pregnant! I've had a bit of nausea and the bladder control of a small child but that is it. No weight gain, no mumsy feelings, tho I did buy some cute t-shirts at the festival I was at at the weekend. If it wasn't for the 2 positive tests I would think I'd just sailed throught the peri menopause! Reading the stuff that most of you are going through I guess i should just count myself lucky!wink

MrsAVB thank you for spending my money too. I now have a new white maternity bra.

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 12:59:40

Good luck tomorrow, keski! I have mine tomorrow, too.

keskiviikko Wed 26-Jun-13 13:03:11

Good luck to you too Toby This is my first pregnancy so I have no idea what to expect and have never been the maternal type, so this is going to be an experience!

TobyLerone Wed 26-Jun-13 13:10:42

Expect to really need a wee by the time it's finished!

keskiviikko Wed 26-Jun-13 13:17:19

Oh that should be fun! I have the bladder control of a small child at the moment. I need a wee at the drop of a hat and start hopping around like a loon grin

MrsVDB Wed 26-Jun-13 13:18:35

Dress bought, lets hope it's nice smile

MrsAVB Wed 26-Jun-13 13:35:15

Aaaaah... I should be getting commission, damnit! smile

Apparentlychilled Wed 26-Jun-13 13:37:20

Hello all, and thank you to Humpty- the morning sickness has indeed returned with a (reassuring) bang! Also had my booking in appointment today, which was good. Got lots of reassurance re PND support (i've had it both times) and not worrying about ms going (apparently it peaks around 8-10 weeks, and I'm 9 + 5 today. And also, though my SIL only found out at her 12 week scan that she'd had a miscarriage, apparently this is very unusual, so I'm going to try not to worry, in the absence of pain and/or bleeding.

Sorry- I've not caught up with the whole thread, but hello to everyone!

LittlePeaPod Wed 26-Jun-13 14:13:42

MrsAVB Our annual leave runs Jan to Dec. Our Mat Policy allows for annual leave to be accrued in full (as per any other employee). However our Mat Policy states that annual leave must be taken prior to Mat leave starting. However, our policy is flexible so in addition to enhance Mat leave benefits, each division can authorise annual leave to be taken after Mat leave. Do you have a copy of your companies Mat Policy? It should hopefully be in there.

Frog and Tooth congratulations on the scan..

Sultanajo thanks of the information on the 1.6mm scan results. Also sorry to hear about your Burger King experience.. Ohhhhh that must just have been awful. sad

Alien congratulations and good luck for the scan tomorrow. flowers

Altered Not sure if you have spoken to your SIL yet. My SIL and I were both due a few days apart (this Oct) before I had a mc earlier in the year. What really helped me was the fact she was so sensitive to my pain. However I really appreciated that she didn't go on about the pregnancy and she allowed me to raise it (which I did). Also she didn't get all giddy about it in front of me when others where around even when they instigated the giddiness. She didn't avoid me, when we spoke about her pregnancy she was open , honest and continued to talk to me about our loss. She just approached everything in a really sensitive way. Everyone is different but if I was in that position again I would really appreciate been told before lots of others found out. It may be good to speak to her about it in private so that it's not a shock when it's announced to everyone. That way there is no possibility she may feel that maybe it was been hidden from her whilst everyone else knew because of her lose. It's a hard situation you find yourself in and so much respect to you for been so considerate to her feelings. Good luck

Pidey We are definitely finding out. DF and I are way to impatient.. ha ha ha. So 20 weeks at latest or if we go ahead with Harmony on tomorrow then will find out in the next couple of weeks. The Harmony test can also tell you the sex of the baby at 12 weeks..

Good luck to anyone I missed due to have scans and tests etc. My thoughts with everyone worrying and still feeling sick

As for me, I managed to eat a BBQ chicken wrap and drunk a Lemon & Ginger drink at lunch without been sick today. she says keeping her fingers crossed it won't come up in a couple of hours For those that know, that is a real achievement for me. grin DF and I are going on holiday on Friday so I am now counting down the hours. Really need a holiday and to sit / sleep in the sunshine and not worry about work , deadlines and bleeding projects….

Hope you are all doing well ladies

apparently glad it's reassured you, but not that you're feeling sick again!
I just had a wee meltdown at DH. Made some lunch, which involved washing up first (my fault, i didn't do it last night when DH cooked dinner). By the time I'd done that, I felt too sick to make/eat anything myself. So so sick of being hungry yet nauseated by food/the thought of food. I confess I had a little cry.

We had a chat (sometimes I love him being on gardening leave!) and realised it's always carbs and fatty foods that provoke that reaction in me. Dh thinks this is a common aversion in pg ladies? I can usually always stomach grapes, melon, strawberries, iced water etc, just nothing 'heavy'. What do we think, ladies?

pod we're off on hollibobs next week, i cannot WAIT! South of France (not the posh side, the right hand side bit somewhere) for a week of novels and sunbathing. Not usually my thing, but I have saved about 10 Kindle daily deal books in anticipation of glorious idleness.