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Graduated elderberries - 30+ and looking forward to DC1! (Thread 5)

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Alexandra6 Mon 17-Jun-13 09:40:50

Hi everyone, hope you had good wkends, I'm looking forward to my holiday next Saturday (although won't be the usual sunbathing with wine flowing!), still can't wait just to relax especially as I'm feeling a bit rough and sick today! Work are piling on the pressure ahead of my hols but who cares, in one week I will be off for two weeks woop!

Just wondered when the really preggers people started to get lightning crotch/cervix pangs? So I can be prepared and not go into cervix panic!

Morning all, this will be the thread where we finally get to meet some babies! Exciting!

Fist day of maternity leave and I had to get up at the crack of sparrow because the joinery company are fitting the stairs today. Asked OH to walk the dogs before he went away on his 3 day jolly and he took them out for about 10 minutes without even a ball to chuck for them then buggered off so I'm stuck in all day trying to stop them barking at the workmen with no idea how I'm going to handle the two of them for the next three days. Not quite what I had in mind for the start of my leave!

The new hospital just phoned as well and said I've got to go in tomorrow morning (no lie in again as its an hour away and got to try to find my way around a massive unfamiliar hospital on my own eek!) to meet my new consultant as they need to re-do ALL of my bloods right down to blood type as my local hospital who already have this information apparently can't just share it...how stupid is that?

AND his bloody dog ate the sky remote so he's buggered off and left me with no tv!

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 10:10:52


Voila stats:
Hazle - EDD 21st of June.
Cavort - EDD 26th June - Aaarrgghh!! Convinced baby will be late.
Purple - EDD 2nd July, will be induced on EDD if baby doesn't make an appearance before!
Janey - EDD 9th July, although pencilled in for 28th June.
Brave - EDD 22 July
Mother - EDD ?Early Nov
Alex - D-day 28th Nov
Quodlibet - EDD 15 Dec.
Frog - D-day 13th Jan 2014

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:13:52

Oh purple not an ideal start BUT for us the stairs and spindles going in we're the turning point really, when the house went from an absolute tip to starting looking like the building work was nearly completed. Hope it's the same for you!

Alex - I think about 32 weeks or so, but could well be completely wrong. However have had weird feelings for ages - like pressure when having a pee since 20 weeks and a rather horrible occasional scratchy feeling from about the same time when the baby pushed on the cervix from the inside that made me feel a bit sick Basically there have been loads and loads of weird, unexplained feelings along the way...

Still feel rough so am not going to go to the baby massage class one of the NCT girls is kindly doing for free. Am gutted but think it would be incredibly selfish to go and spread all my germs amongst lots of very heavily pregnant women....hmm

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 10:29:47

And... I hope all is well - have been incommunicado all weekend as our internet at home has busted, and then we've been away on a 'see as many of my family as possible in three days' epic.

But that's all good.

Glad to hear all good Alex - and sorry to hear of cold-related misery and lightening crotch. Alex I've had sporadic lightning cervix, and I think from fairly early on, around 20 weeks maybe? Not had any for a while though.

Good luck with the joiners, dogs and no TV Purple eek!! And on times like these, the NHS is baffling. But I guess it's an arse-covering exercise.

The comedy highlight of the weekend was getting wedged between a chair and a table in a very busy restaurarant that resulted in me nearly pulling the table over. Comedy lowlight was my nan cheerfully dropping into conversation that she was in labour for two days with her first (my dad), and ended up with forceps. Was a bit shock by that!

All else ticketyboo... And thanks for the money thoughts (old thread) and encouragement - definitely feels like the end is in sight and the better DP and I are working on other stuff, the easier that side will be too.

Any baby movement news? I hope everyone knows that any lengthy silence on here will be considered a significator of impending labour lol grin can't wait for us to get grads with full honours soon!

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 10:33:44

Sorry you still feel rough Janey is paracetamol helping at all? Am strangely glad to hear I'm not the only one with weird toilet issues - have been suffering with need-to-go-right-now on and off for weeks to the extent that I've been expecting anti-biotics from every antenatal appt recently - but apparently all fine.

Have also perfected the art of needing-to-go, going, but only a teeny bit to show for it. Was paranoid about UTIs but think it's just normal hmm !

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 10:41:55

Good morning ladies with no babies yet but hopefully soon!

Very envy of your lovely holiday Alex. You will be sunning yourself while some of us are pushing babies out. wink
I think my cervical shooting pains started about 34 weeks but I have read threads where other pg women say theirs started much earlier, so if you do start getting them don't panic!

Oh Purple, you poor thing. I feel your dog pain as I had to try to contain/entertain ours for 8 long days while the decorator was in and it really wasn't easy. My SPD has worsened but I am still managing to take the dog out, albeit at a snail's pace, which is the only way I can stop myself from being in agony for the rest of the day. The dog obviously doesn't understand this and looks at me as if to say 'FFS, why are you so damn slow?' And after 2 weeks of ML I haven't managed a single lie in yet. angry

Rubbish that you have to travel an hour just to do stuff you've already done, but it will be nice to see where you'll be giving birth and know where you're going when the crucial time comes.

Is everybody stepping up their rubbish old wives tales proven baby eviction techniques? I am eating loads of fresh pineapple (although not the 6/7 all at once shock required to supposedly trigger anything off), and TMI alert we finally managed to DTD last night, which went much better than I thought it would. I found myself struggling to relax previously as I was concerned the Big O might trigger premature labour, but now baby is fully cooked and I would actually quite like it to trigger labour I found it so much easier. I have told DH he had better start having an extra shredded wheat as we are going to shag this baby out! Gotta be better than Castor Oil! grin

MotherOfCleo Mon 17-Jun-13 10:43:32

Hi guys. smile
purple that doesn't sound fun, the dog walk is obviously a man thing as my OH is the same. He takes pooch out for about 10/15 mins and then wonders why she is a pain, I take her out for 30/45 mins and then she is knackered. So worth the extra time to get some peace! I feel for you with the barking at the workmen, mine has developed a total hatred of the postman, she goes mental.....stupid dog.

Can't believe we have babies due this month......eeeeek. So exciting! My evil ex friend had her baby last week. Alice Elizabeth Rose - still not sure what I think of the name, quite like Ali for short though. I saw my friend who is one week ahead of me at the weekend, geez she has a lovely bump, nice and pronounced, mines just chubby confused although it is getting bigger and more bump like I think. Also saw my little cousin Edward, he is about 8 months and god he's gorgeous, could just eat him up smile

Added my dates to the stats:
Hazle - EDD 21st of June.
Cavort - EDD 26th June - Aaarrgghh!! Convinced baby will be late.
Purple - EDD 2nd July, will be induced on EDD if baby doesn't make an appearance before!
Janey - EDD 9th July, although pencilled in for 28th June.
Brave - EDD 22 July
Mother - EDD 7th Nov (although I think more like the 14th)
Alex - D-day 28th Nov
Quodlibet - EDD 15 Dec.
Frog - D-day 13th Jan 2014

Try 'needing to go every 5 minutes' when you can't because there are workmen blocking access to the entire upstairs and the only toilet <sigh> it's going to be a long day! I was also very envious when cavort said she has to get up twice in the night to wee - 8 times I got up last night, EIGHT and this is nwhere is it all coming from? Surely I don't drink that much and tmi I know but I'm bit talking about a pathetic dribble every time I'm talking proper normal amounts!

MotherOfCleo Mon 17-Jun-13 10:46:10

Oh and yes alex I'm also very envious of your hols!! We have a week in Tunisia booked in a months time, but geez a month seems sooooo far away! Can't come soon enough, I am currently so tired I could sleep at my desk.

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 10:47:42

Oh, and Alex if your baby is breech (I assume with all your scans you will know this?) I had a sensation of what was presumably baby's foot kicking my cervix and feeling like it was going to break through all through the second trimester.

Gah fat fingers posted too soon before I could edit out the mistakes, sorry, was trying to say it's not an uncommon occurrence, I have a 4 bathroom trips a night minimum but its usually more like 6-8. is it just sleep deprivation training? Because I can't even remember the last time I had a decent nights sleep.

Oh and Bear, if it makes you feel better I got wedged in a picnic bench yesterday and had to be rescued by my OH grin

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 10:50:53

8 times Purple? Bloody hell!! <suddenly feels much better about nocturnal toileting>

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 10:52:30

It's wayyyy too hot outside. Boss dragged me over to another office for a totally useless meeting I could have easily joined over the phone. Not amused. as compensation, will go home early.

As for crotch/cervix pains, I haven't had any. Wonder if that's weird and means that baby will be overdue?

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:55:40

8 times? Wow. I average about four these days - and I usually stop drinking at 7pm to try up minimise it!

V jealous of all the holidays in the offing. I've got an exciting day ahead if me washing babygrows....

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:56:44

Cross post hazle. I suspect the lack of cervical pains are yet further proof of your superwoman status!

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 11:01:07

I second what Janey said Hazle. You will inevitably be reporting back to us following your birth saying how you didn't even realise you were 10cm as you were doing a crossword. grin

Am very envy at you DTD! I haven't even mentioned it again since the last failed attempt! I'm on the raspberry leaf capsules and have the occasional bounce on the gym ball to try to encourage things along but I've not quite reached the desperation of trying to eat curry etc yet (don't like spicy food) and too much pineapple makes my mouth feel all funny.

The Dozy bugger I live with got about 40 mins away and realised he's forgotten his binoculars and is having to drive all the way back - he should be half way to Surrey by now the useless oaf.

I don't think I've had those pains either Hazle, I get SPD pains and sometimes shooting pains in the underside of my bump when I roll over in bed but I wouldn't describe any of them as 'lightening crotch' I don't think.

...could be because baby's head isn't engaged for me maybe? (As mine definitely isn't superwoman related!)

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 11:08:44

Can I just say that I am SICK of heartburn now? Constantly feel like I could vom from it and an getting through bottles of magnesium trisilicate like it's going out of fashion. Totally over it.

I thought as baby got lower it might ease a bit?! Apparently not...

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 11:48:13

Boo to heartburn, nocturnal toileting and builders/useless dog walkers.

Seriously. It'll all be worth it right <rolls eyes> grin

Purple that does make me feel better, thanks grin tho hope you/picnic table both emerge unscathed from your incident lol

Don't envy you in the tropics Hazle youch. It's vaguely warm here today and I'm sat here with a short-sleeve top on - couldn't bear the thought of it being any warmer confused

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 11:55:26

Just a few days, should go back to more manageable temperatures from Thursday. But it is roasting at the moment. If I ever have another DC, I'll plan the due date around February.

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 11:59:30

Fingers crossed Hazle

Oh meant to ask, anyone do anything for father's day for their OH?

I brought him a cup of tea in bed and revealed big bump with 'Happy father's day! on it in biro. Think he found this amusing. Fortunately the biro has mainly come off, after a double soaping effort in the shower blush

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 12:18:01

Brave that's brilliant! Nope didn't do anything - crappy fiancé I am hey hmm

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 12:29:04

Brave that's a great idea. grin
I got DH a gift from DSD so I just got DSD to write 'From Scarlett and Baby' on the tag. blush

Nope I'm crap as well - I didn't do anything and DSS only sent him a message on Facebook so Father's Day was a bit of a flop here!

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 13:06:01

Sigh saw some photos taken over the weekend. Only hope is that they were taken from a really, really bad angle. The other alternative is that I'm massively fat. Must be the angle.

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 13:10:34

I feel your pain hazle. I think because when I look down my belly only sticks out an inch or two more than my boobs, I don't think I'm big. Then I catch sight of myself (in a photo, or a reflection in a window) and am horrified. Because I'm tall too I just feel HUMUNGOUS hmm

BraveLilBear Mon 17-Jun-13 13:24:32

Definitely the angle Hazle. Feels weird to me cos when I look down at my bump, it's sort of square-ish. But if I look in a mirror or catch myself from the side it's very very round. My sister said 'beachball' this weekend.

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 13:32:30

Not just the bump, face is also definitely puffier and chin is nowhere to be seen. This breastfeeding better be a bloody miracle diet..

Quodlibet Mon 17-Jun-13 13:47:11

Oh I haven't had a satisfying wee for weeks! I can't get any force behind it, if you know what I mean.

I'm just a walking belly, little legs, enormous bump, no boobs, then a little head on top. Even good friends and OH have started making comments about how enormous I am and that I can't possibly get any bigger. The 'are you sure there's only one on there' comments, never get tired of those either hmm

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 16:48:32

Oh, absolutely the angle Hazle. What else could it possibly be? wink

Quod I'm sure you already know it but it will get much worse. I have forgotten what it's like to do more than a dribble.

Ok, so I have just taken this week's bump picture (uploaded), hoping that after all these bloody shooting pains it would be noticeably lower than last week. But no, it seems to have got higher if anything. My baby seems to be going the wrong way! shock The pains must be her head unengaging. angry Has anyone ever given birth through their mouth before because that seems to be where she's headed? confused

Alexandra6 Mon 17-Jun-13 18:38:21

cavort I really want a bump like yours when I'm that far along, it's so cute!! Like your mat outfit in that pic too. I keep forgetting to take bump pics, I meant to do a weekly photo diary and have forgotten all about it! Might start from now.

I bought DH strawberries, meringue and ice cream on Father's Day and told him bump had told me to get it for him. then I scoffed most of it

Been a right grump at work today, I was really busy and felt so tired and headachey, need to remember to be nice even when I'm tired and stressed!

Just realised I'm towards the end of the due date list - that's a lot of birth stories coming up first wink although hazle's superwoman story will give me hope! Someone on my cervix group has had a baby before and she found having a new baby in her life nowhere near as stressful/anxious as pregnancy and said it's lovely so that was reassuring! Especially as I'm enjoying pregnancy most of the time when I'm not moaning or worrying

Oh and yes to unsatisfactory wee's here too!

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 18:55:05

Have put a 39+3 photo up as well, just to scare you wink

janey1234 Mon 17-Jun-13 20:03:58

Agreed cavort. It gets much worse. I can't wait to have a proper pee again.

Both your bumps look lovely smile

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 20:14:38

Hazle you look fab! And not fat at all. Your bump looks like it's all baby so i'm sure you'll pop back into shape in no time, especially with your gym routine. grin

Thanks Alex, that skirt is my one decent maternity purchase (£35 from Seraphine,) but I have worn it to death and have definitely got my money's worth out of it. All the rest of my maternity stuff I tried to buy as cheap as possible and I reckon they will all fall apart soon after the birth, if not before grin

You don't have to be nice at work when you're upduffed and feeling terrible. It's your prerogative to be a grump!

Alexandra6 Mon 17-Jun-13 20:23:16

Ah thanks cavort that's exactly what DH said too so he got brownie points for being a supportive dad to be!

I was thinking that about mat clothes - I'll invest in one or two nice outfits and wear them to death, and then just use my stretchy stuff/hand me downs the rest of the time!

hazle your bump is great!

HazleNutt Mon 17-Jun-13 20:27:10

alex you'll need some trousers and skirts, but otherwise it's way easier to buy regular stretchy clothes - more choice and cheaper too. I'm still wearing mostly normal dresses and tops.

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 20:35:34

Alex I have been surprised by how much of my non-maternity stretchy stuff still looks ok now. Like Hazle said, it's stuff to wear on your bottom half you will need to buy. I seem to remember normal tights cutting into me quite badly before the bump was even very big. Maternity tights are sooo comfy!

Well seeing as we're all in a sharing mood I've added a photo too. 38 weeks tomorrow. Believe it or not, that's actually quite a flattering photo, I look even bigger in real life shock

I think it depends on what shape you end up being with the maternity wear though because although I've worn the same few maternity trousers/jeans all the way through I've had to buy proper maternity t-shirts/tops and have had to re-buy a bigger size a couple of times as I suppose everyone ends up a different shape <see dodgy beached whale photo>

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 20:44:19

Purple what a lovely perfectly round bump you have! It doesn't look as big as I imagined but I can see it sticks out gravity-defyingly far so no wonder you have a bad back.

Yes it does tend to enter rooms a few seconds before me! It's because I'm so short, the poor baby has had to push outwards for any space...either that or it's a monstrous 11lb baby or something <shudders>

Cavort Mon 17-Jun-13 22:22:08

I think I have changed my mind on having a big baby as I have realised it means I will have less weight to shift afterwards. I am curently tipping the scales with a 25lb gain so I would like most of that to be baby fat chance of that. And my friend who had two very fast and easy labours/births had two big babies. I think the gravity must help!

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 07:25:10

I like your thinking cavort but I was a ten and a half pound baby and my mum says otherwise eek! They brought my due date forward again on Friday so wonder if the scans aren't that accurate or if my baby is big for it's dates already!

Have a cervix scan today and stupidly I'm feeling a bit vain about the fact I'm not having my bikini and leg wax until Saturday before my hols - the consultant will think I'm a hairy monkey! grin oh well bet they see it all the time and clearly it's not my priority at the scan!

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 08:35:04

Whoah, 10.5lbs Alex? Are you worried yours will be the same? Your poor Mum! I was thinking 'big' along the lines of 9lbs. Not that I will get to choose. hmm

I really don't suppose sonographers/midwives/consultants care about personal grooming, but I would feel the same as you. It gets much harder as the bump gets bigger - mirrors are your friend. FX for a nice long cervix at your scan. grin

This morning I looked at my dull but healthy fruit museli in the cupboard.... and then glanced across at the flapjacks and 'accidentally' ate 2 flapjacks for breakfast. blush I am a terrible mother already.

Well it can't be helped if they just fell into your mouth can it? And you have got baby brain after all, you must have been confused wink

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:42:15

Lots of midwives say that the bigger the baby the easier it is to push out, makes sense if you're in a position using gravity however that doesn't take into account the state your bits are left in afterwards My dad was the same size as Alex - ouchy - and my Nan always says it wasn't his weight that was the problem in her 48 hour labour before she was knocked out whilst they pulled him out but the size of his head shock Alex can vouch for the fact that it is indeed still massive!

Alex - weird they're still changing your dates. My consultant told me that past 12 weeks you can't date the baby as they grow at such different rates after that stage. Also weird as you know exactly when you conceived! You need to remember that for later - if they bring it forward they might try to induce you before it's necessary IYSWIM

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:53:40

On a positive note, I was just thinking about how happy I am not to have any stretch marks yet, especially as my mum had loads and I know it's down to genetics. Anyway I stumbled upon this:

women who have their first child before the age of 20 have an 82% risk of stretch marks- while those over 35 have a 13% risk of them.

The study claimed that age was the single biggest factor determining whether you get them, not genetics. I really hope that's true and I stay stretch mark free for the next few weeks!

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 08:56:29

Yes Purple that's exactly what happened. I just saw the word 'oats' and ate the wrong one. wink
Are you off to see your new consultant this morning?

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 08:58:12

Oh Janey I haven't heard that but I really hope it's true! You would think it would be the other way around wouldn't you? Hurrah for old age. grin

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:00:10

I agree janey I ended up seeing a lovely student midwife the other day as my usual midwife was busy and I explained it to her. I said I don't care if they have wrong dates down as the baby will come when it wants to (and I'm more worried about not baking it long enough) and she agreed it's only an issue if I do go over and need to be induced. She said I can refuse to be induced until it makes sense by my dates.

My mum doesn't like talking about my birth much! Poor her! Funnily enough I'm preferring good birth stories anyway now I'm preggers! wink

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 09:07:38

Yet another conflicting report on booze during pregnancy.

For a start, the dramatic headline doesn't reflect what this report is actually saying.

I think because most of the advice on pregnancy drinking is based on anecdotal evidence, I think the official advice from the NHS/government should be to abstain altogether. I see too many pg women drinking too much (way over 1 or 2 units in one go) because, 'the NHS says it's ok,' and reports like these don't help.

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 09:17:25
MotherOfCleo Tue 18-Jun-13 09:20:23


In other news I just bought a swimsuit.....look like I need rescuing by greenpeace grin eeek.

None of us need to worry about the birth, surely they just slide out with no fuss, just like shelling a pea. wink

Quodlibet Tue 18-Jun-13 09:24:36

Maybe the no-stretch marks thing is because by our mid-30s we have baggied up our skin nicely all by ourselves slowly over time and so baby isn't doing it quickly and ripping it?!

Alex fx for your cervix scan.

I am still unsure where I stand on drinking...haven't done so (or really wanted to) so far but can't guarantee I'd pass up a glass of nice bubbly at one of the many weddings I am attending, for example...

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:28:29

My view on booze is it's probably absolutely fine to have a glass now and again but I just wouldn't enjoy the idea of it preggers so I'm not risking any at all. Will miss it on my holiday but now and again I have a cheeky sip of DH's drink and that sip is soooo good! Can't wait for a nice chilled drink post birth!

Yes to shelling a pea birth! mother I don't think we're far apart in the birth line up smile

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:29:16

That's what I've done quod. Although I miss it like hell! But on special occasions (when I got engaged, new year, wedding) I've had a small glass. Plus I had a very weak spritzer the other day when we had a BBQ as the sun was out - for the first time this year!

Have finally uploaded a bump pic. Looks weird as I have a towel around my bottom half but gives you an idea of -how bloody huge I am how things are coming along.

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:30:06

Cross post, thanks quod smile

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:31:23

Oh and cavort - I really want a flapjack now. This is like fanta-gate all over again hmm

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:34:30

Oh and good luck Alex!

Also - am I the only one who assumes hazle is in labour if we don't hear from her for an hour or two? When in reality she's probably just in some high flying meeting at work whilst I lie on the sofa watching TV

HazleNutt Tue 18-Jun-13 09:36:17

I've taken a day off told the boss I'm working from home. It's already 30 degrees and rising and the only place where I'm not sweating like a pig, is the pool. I really hope the baby can wait a couple of days, it's uncomfortable enough, I don't think contractions would add anything.

MotherOfCleo Tue 18-Jun-13 09:55:59

Janey I think your pics are set as private so I can't check out the bump. smile

You all seem to have gorgeous bumps, mines coming along but its not all out in front, it spreads round the sides making me look like a bit of a chunk.

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:02:31

Oh I'm useless. Have I changed it now?!

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 10:11:26

Janey your bump doesn't look too big at all, but I suppose it's difficult to gauge as you are about 9 foot tall!

Good call Hazle, it must be awful coping with that temperature.

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 10:44:29

Morning all - what an impressive set of bumps in the rogues gallery! Hazle you definitely look all-bump to me, Purple yours is really neat (but totally see how it's straining your back), Janey yours is tiny! And Cavort I am forever in awe grin

Am tempted to put one up later if I manage to snap one...

Good luck for the scan Alex and hope your new consultant is nice Purple. Great work on the skive work from home thinking Hazle grin

As for me, I'm sat at my desk, struggling to breathe - there's just so much bump! It's basically now wedged between my not done up trousers and my ribcage, and is solid so I can't bend forward.

And there's five weeks to go. Gulp.

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:05:31

It is big, Alex will vouch for that. I think my boobs - which are massive - put it in a weird perspective?

Brave poor you. It's so annoying not being able to bend forwards - every time I do now I seem to get BH. Hope the day doesn't drag too much. When are you finishing?

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:56:41

Who was it who made the off side joke early on? Wasn't it when your belly sticks out more than boobs? Well I'm there already I think! grin although my boobs were never going to put up much of a fight! DH and I are fascinated with my bump already, absolutely love it!

brave hope you're not too uncomfortable at work. Can you work from home so you're more comfy?

Have serious baby brain. I nearly put a dirty glass in the fridge instead of the dishwasher, I spilt cereal all over the floor and I nearly left for the hospital an hour earlier than I need to!

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 11:56:46

I'll live! Has eased off a bit, and helps if I lean back slightly. Finish the day at 5.30pm, finish here in just under three weeks. Am starting to give serious thought to taking some holiday days to go off earlier though, but I know I'll regret it if I cave in to my laziness (as will have to go back sooner on the other side).

Could well be a perspective thing I guess... I like the fact that everyone keeps telling me how I've only put weight on on my bump, whereas really, my hips and thighs and bum are huge compared to normality. I think the belly is making everything else look small.

Am teetering on the brink of two stone weight gain already, so I know it's not all on my belly! (Tho I suspect having normal size boobs for once is contributing to some of that at least lol).

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 12:38:54

Meant to ask earlier - anyone else get weird worries from time to time? My latest worry is, if it's a boy, will I treat it differently as a newborn to how I'd treat a girl? Ie would I talk to him differently, handle him differently...


Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 13:38:18

Boo to work discomfort Brave. Don't beat yourself up if you want to go part-time or finish earlier then planned. It's not laziness, just listen to your body. flowers

Curry for dinner last night, DTD again, pineapple and flapjacks this morning. I've just taken the dog out for three hours which I will doubtless pay for with SPD later and now i'm going to cut the lawn and do some gardening. Operation baby eviction is well under way but completely fruitless so far. sad

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:29:53

Agreed cavort - if you're struggling brave just finish sooner.

Cavort - sounds like you're doing all you can and am v jealous re DTD. Is completely off the cards for us now I'm so huge DP finds it a bit weird, and if I have an elcs I can't even bully him into it to help bring on labour! Damn it...

Just watched the last episode of the sopranos for the first time. It's actually made me a bit emotional, am all teary about it?!

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 14:51:48

Janey that happens to me non-pregnant! [weird emoticon]

Also jealous of DTD, though my desire is now synced up with DP's and has done a runner so we're both blissfully unfrisky for the timebeing.

Working from home might be an idea, but our internet connection is currently knackered so not an option til that's fixed.

Besides, there's a weird frisson about being the hot topic of gossip... one friend's machine had an email on it enitled 'BraveLilBear's leaving card and collection', and then I walked into the main office and three people literally stopped talking.

Anyway, think I've figured out why I feel so meh today. Constipation. blush

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:14:59

janey I'm just envy about you watching box sets when I have to work! Can't wait for mat leave! Also glad you said that about your DP not wanting to dtd when you're heavily preggers as I'm sure that's how my DH will be when eviction time comes! Will have to tell him to man up if I get desperate and sick of pineapple!

My cervix scan went well, it measured up longer than the one 3 weeks ago, don't think it can get longer but is just difficult to scan accurately - either way it's great it doesn't look like it's shortening/opening. He said my placenta is low but still time for that to go up and they'll keep an eye - nothing to do with the cervix though, and I get scanned again for my cervix when I'm back from hols. Really pleased he thinks it's looking ok grin

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 15:47:42

Great news Alex Must be a huge relief! Now you can party lie out in the sun with more reasons to relax. So pleased for you! grin

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:53:21

I will second that brave - tis brilliant news alex. Bring on the holiday! smile

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 16:01:25

Oh and Alex I'm not just watching box sets - have been doing so much since I started maternity leave - has been harder than working! Bloody loft conversion. However getting there now so am hoping next week is box-set-tastic!

I won the biggest bump competition didn't I? <sigh> oh well, I did know I was enormous, my back had been telling me long enough! Janey your bump is lovely too envy everyone else apart from me seems to look in proportion, i blame my stupid hobbit genes.

Saw new consultant this am, seems very nice and much more flexible than last one. Had an internal exam which I wasn't expecting (un-groomed doesn't even cover it, bye bye dignity) and cervix is still posterior so no imminent arrival in the purple household. Their plan is to get my midwife to give me as many sweeps as possible before I see the consultant again next Friday to try to urge things along naturally rather than inducing me when my body isn't ready for it and risking the induction failing and leading to a section which I'd really like to avoid if possible.

So all in all, aside from a bit of mild embarrassment (midwife merrily threw back the sheet totally exposing my wild and woolly nether regions to the air and in front of my mother too! Good job I'm not shy eh!) and discomfort it was a very positive appointment and feel much more comfortable with the new hospital and their policies than the old one.

Glad your appt went well Alex, hopefully you can relax and enjoy your holiday now.

MotherOfCleo Tue 18-Jun-13 16:43:31

So pleased for you alex!

We find out the gender tomorrow, I am so excited! Any predictions? smile

HazleNutt Tue 18-Jun-13 16:58:44

alex great news and indeed it's very exciting mother. Do you have a preference? I'm sure you'll love either the same, but you can tell us here.

Oh how exciting Mother! I have to say I think that was my best/most exciting bit of pregnancy so far, do you or DP have a preference?

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 17:04:47

Purple - that really made me laugh (sorry blush)! I would be mortified if someone did that in front of my mum! In front of doctors, nurses, midwives etc i have no shame at all. And DP obv. But anyone else in the world there to see and I'd be bright red! So glad this consultant was more flexible though, sounds like you've absolutely done the right thing.

Re induction - and please tell me to mind my own - but I've kind of decided that if they say no to elcs upfront, but still want to get the baby out soonish (what they're still saying) I think I'd be happy with sweeps, waters, pessary etc. But if none of that was working, and my cervix were still hard closed and posterior, I think I'd ask for an elcs at that point (that was actually a suggestion from our NCT leader). Not sure I fancy the drip really... Although that's just me - know it works very well for lots of people so really not trying to put you off!

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 17:05:44

Oooh and how exciting mother!! Do you have any inclination what it might be? smile

BraveLilBear Tue 18-Jun-13 17:10:00

I will always forever be grateful to the friend who told me that her 12 week scan ended up as an internal because her DS wasn't playing ball - meant that I'd had a precautionary groom ahead of both scans... which was lucky as they pulled the dildocam routine on me at 20 weeks.

I would have been mortified in your shoes! Least it seems they're sensible and listening, which is something.

Good luck for tomorrow Mother - what does your instinct say?

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 17:23:13

That's great that you like your new consultant Purple. Let's hope the change gives you the relaxed experience you want. And I wouldn't worry too much about unkempt nethers, I'm sure they've seen worse. But if they're sweeping you regularly for the next few weeks it might be worth having a go with some hedge trimmers or something. grin

Woo hoo for longer cervix and therefore more relaxed holiday Alex. It's only a shame we can't all have a wine <-- Sangria to celebrate.

Ooo exciting Mother. Also exciting that you're half way. Hmmm, prediction? Well I suppose I've got 50/50 of getting it right so i'll go boy!

Re DTD, I think DH is torn between finding my enormous belly a turn off, but finding my newly bigger boobs a turn on. And I don't think either of us can contemplate thinking about where the baby's head is in relation to all this going on or it would definitely be game over! But needs must an all that....

Nothing so far so maybe I possibly need to eat a pineapple curry while DTD and tweaking my nipples?

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 17:26:24

Trouble is, I can't even see my lady garden so how am I supposed to perform topiary hmm? I did try with a mirror a few weeks ago but nearly did myself an injury both trying to get in a position to see and with having sharps in sensitive places. Do I blindly veet and hope for the best or seek professional help? Luckily I've never been shy around my Mum and she said she didn't look anyway!

At my care trust they use a pessary rather than a drip for induction Janey which isn't supposed to be as bad. My main fear is being in hospital for a few days so the idea of a section holds far more fear for me than induction (even if they do eventually have to resort to the drip) because of recovery time though I'm aware I run the risk of having to go through both! Hopefully all the prodding will work anyway and they said my cervix is soft (wonder if that's the raspberry leaf working?) but posterior so too tilted for them to do a proper sweep. That's why they want me to keep going back as often as possible so as soon as it moves they can get to it and have a good old rummage.

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 17:51:22

If it's soft already that's v good news purple. You hear of people a week or so overdue who haven't reached that point so hopefully that's a sign you're already heading in the right direction. smile Certainly got everything crossed for you.

Oh one thing, Alex and I have a friend who just had an elcs and was home within 24 hours. I know this is relatively unusual but I guess it's nice to know in the back if your mind that it could happen if anyone has to have a c section but wasn't planning it...

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 17:51:48

Oh and also heard the pessaries are much nicer!

That's very reassuring to know Janey, thanks, I don't know quite why I've got my head in such a pickle over staying in hospital anyway, I'm not too nervous about the actual birth but I've for this real thing in my head about wanting to bugger off home as soon as I can once I've actually had the baby. Might change my mind when knackered having just given birth and they're trying to turf me out though hey?

janey1234 Tue 18-Jun-13 18:00:48

I don't know, I'm stressing too and want to be home ASAP. Also keep worrying about poor DP being home alone - god knows why, he'll just be having lots of lovely sleep!

I couldn't give a flying squirrel about him being home alone its all about me me me I just want him suffering with me holding my hand grin I don't play nicely with others (only child) so being on a ward full of strangers sounds very bad to me.

HazleNutt Tue 18-Jun-13 18:16:24

I don't like hospitals but thinking that it might actually be quite nice to stay for a few days and have all possible help and assistance available. After all, I have no idea really what to do with the baby..

See that is a very sensible and logical reaction Hazle, whereas I fully expect to be incompetent but rather than wanting help, don't want anyone to see that I'm a useless bumbling idiot and want to muck it up figure it out on my own without witnesses rolling their eyes at my utter stupidity. I am very aware that it doesn't make any sense at all!

Cavort Tue 18-Jun-13 19:06:03

I am hoping to stay in hospital until I've seen the BF Consultant and got BF established so hopefully just one night. I told DH that our Maternity Unit are trialing allowing fathers to stay over and the cheeky bastard actually looked gutted at the prospect of having to sleep in a chair rather than coming home to our nice comfy bed. angry He is however not stupid and could see I was clocking his expression and was about to start on a rant about what I am about to go through, so he tried to pretend that he wants to stay, which is a blatant lie but I don't really care, he's staying anyway. I'm not bothered at the thought of staying in alone but I would much rather ask him to do things for me rather than pestering the Nurses and I think after growing him a baby and then birthing it I will deserve a skivvy.

Hmmm Purple, yes that is a quandary if you can't see and mirror not working. I think I would either book in for a wax at a Salon or Veet it all off so you don't need to worry about where you're putting the Veet. This reminds me of the story of the woman who was going for a smear so she had a shower, tidied herself up and finished it off with some Femfresh Spray. When she got there she assumed the position and the Nurse said, 'Oh there's no need to have gone to this much trouble!' She looked down and had picked up her teenage daughter's glitter spray instead of the Femfresh. blush

MotherOfCleo Tue 18-Jun-13 19:14:48

Im pretty sure my OH will be little use in the hospital, my mum would probably be a better bet. I've always been happy enough on my own, fingers crossed I cope ok. Its annoying that my best friend works in a different hospital, Id feel better knowing she would be looking in on me.

I kind of want a girl, only because I thought from the start that it might be a girl, so have that in my mind, my OH wants a boy though so we will be chuffed either way grin

Alexandra6 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:52:34

So exciting you find out tomorrow mother!

I'm glad I'm not the only one turning up unkempt for these scans purple! I'm sure they see 70s style bushes all the time haha! Mine isn't that bad really but def looking forward to my pre-holiday wax on Sat! I'm sticking to salon waxing when pregnant as weirdly I shaved my legs a couple of times and my legs really hurt afterwards?! And like you say, it's tricky to manage yourself when the bump gets bigger, and I'm not a fan of Veet.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who won't have a clue what they're doing with a newborn baby! Someone told me not to worry, so much of it just comes to you as instinct. I think she meant you stumble along until you get it right but was too nice to say!

janey1234 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:01:18

Good luck today mother - let us know his you get on!
Finally feeling better from this bug, but had yet another terrible night's sleep. My bump is getting really sore now, it seems to ache all the time now. Felt like I had really bad period pains in the night, and this morning I have shooting muscular pains across it. I can see now why people moan so much about this stage now...

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 08:27:36

I'm still here. Working, actually have some meetings today and office is more or less airconditioned. Asked DH to drive me though, so I don't have to get into a car that has been standing in the sun the whole day.

The Blackberry was acting up yesterday, some emails came through only a couple of hours later - and of course there has been total panic here that I'm probably in the hospital, as I didn't reply in an hour confused.

Cavort Wed 19-Jun-13 09:09:09

Janey I have read that many women's first sign of labour is period-type pains, which ordinarily would be good news but maybe not if you want it to hold off until ELCS! It would be sod's law for you to go into natural labour when you don't want it while we're all desperate for it! grin

I hate to boast, but I managed 9.5 hours sleep last night with 2 loo trips. <polishes knuckles on lapels> [

Hooray for air conditioned offices Hazle. A sunny 23 degrees here and it's way too hot for me so I can't even imagine the pain of ten degrees higher. sad

Hazle you really are amazing!

I'm off to wallow in the local pool looking like something from a nature documentary with my friend and her toddler and lunch time. My bump is testing the stretchy properties of Lycra to its very limits on my maternity swimsuit so I'm just hoping the seams don't go ping and I end up naked hulk style - that could make yesterday's naked embarrassment seem tame grin

Impatiently waiting for mother's news <nosy>

Alexandra6 Wed 19-Jun-13 09:32:56

For the fun of taking a bet, I'm going to go for boy mother!

Was so hot, muggy and packed on the tube this morning and I felt quite dizzy, and none of the lazy buggers offered me a seat. I've been lucky lately with people offering. Should have just asked!

Good luck with the Lycra testing purple! DH says he's going to get me a huge inflatable lilo for floating around our pool in Spain. He didn't have to add the 'huge' bit wink

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 09:37:40

Honestly I'm not a superwoman or otherwise amazing. I simply don't have any of the aches and pains and issues - starting to feel guilty, reading the threads here about late pregnancy and how miserable it is for many women. I've just been lucky - not like I'm suffering and dragging myself to office anyway like some kind of a hero.

Some if it might be down to luck Hazle but some is also bound to be down to your amazing levels of fitness, healthy diet etc. I'm still impressed! And don't feel guilty, just enjoy it.

...and don't listen too much to the whiners either, even with the few issues I've got, it's certainly not the out and out misery fest some people make it out to be. Or maybe I'm just lucky too - have to remember some people spend 40 weeks throwing up - it puts the ages and pains into perspective!

BraveLilBear Wed 19-Jun-13 10:28:13

Morning all - also eagerly awaiting news of Mother's bump. <nosey>

Meanwhile, in the Brave Bear house, DP and I have had a falling out after I told him how unimpressed I was with his behaviour at the antenatal class last night.

He sat there, for the whole second half, with his phone out, kept checking it (unlocking the screen) and flicking the screen, while also yawning and tapping his foot.

We were sat in a semi-circle, so it was hardly discreet, and it was excruciatingly embarrassing and frankly came across as very arrogant. I told him afterwards that, I don't care how bored he is, that is not socially acceptable behaviour - and he basically said he doesn't care. He was 'bored, annoyed and irritated by it, and didn't care who knew'.

I said that he should have at least had the decency to lie say he was expecting an important call and would anyone mind if he kept an eye on his phone. He said that he didn't need to do that.

I would be appalled if a child of mine acted like that, let alone the father of my child and the supposed love of my life. Am I being hormonal unreasonable?

I'm really really annoyed by this - tho strangely calm. I have asked for an apology, but he says he has nothing to apologise for. In fact, he's making out like I should apologise to him for bringing it up.

What say the jury?

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 10:30:14

Brave you are not being unreasonable. That was disrespectful and rude.

Not at all unreasonable, he was being a childish arse and I'd have hit the roof if mine had been so rude shock if you need any help with body removal once you've justifiably murdered him, let me know.

Alexandra6 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:00:25

Ooh my DH would be in trouble for that bear! No you are def not being unreasonable!

hazle you've done so well in the pregnancy symptom lottery! It's so funny how some pregnancies are harder than others and so random, it's a shame there aren't rules to follow!

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 11:12:15

alex I know - am worried that to compensate, I'll have a really horrible labour and/or non-sleeping colicky baby..

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 11:21:40

Gossip pages are speculating over Kim Kardashian's baby's name. I quite liked the suggestion Kash Kow grin

janey1234 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:27:05

Oh brave, I would have gone nuts too. Having said that, and I promise I'm not making excuses, at one of our NCT classes there was a 'big game' on at the same time (spurs vs arsenal) and I saw every sodding man in the group checking their phones. DP was obv in trouble but annoyingly just pointed out he wasn't on his phone as much as others! Anyway I think the leaders are very used to it. Bloody men.

Purple - also feeling nosey and also weirdly going with boy. No idea why!

Cavort - I've also got an upset stomach. Weirdly I wouldn't mind at all going into labour now and having a go naturally. Can't explain why but feel relaxed about that happening?! Anyway period pains seem to have gone now. They were pretty uncomfortable for a while though.

Hazle - don't feel guilty, it's almost certainly down to you being super fit and healthy unlike me, lazy old pig that I am

BraveLilBear Wed 19-Jun-13 11:32:13

Lol at Kash Kow grin

Thanks for backing up my annoyance. I'm still quite shocked by it, but I know I was in the right, and was in the right to say something afterwards, that I'm amazingly calm about it and therefore refusing to back down.

Similarly, DP's continuing petulance is an indicator to me that he knows he was out of line but isn't admitting it. Am now slightly worried that I'll have two babies to look after in less than two months, not just one.

Thing is, he'd been doing so well - ie making an effort at the weekend around my family and friends to be engaging and civil - something must have triggered him, and I have no idea what.

Anyone know what time mother's scan is so I can stop obsessively checking my phone? grin (is it stupid to be excited about someone else's scan?)

Brave - maybe he was just having a moody/off day? Who knows what makes them suddenly be an arse. Your DP always seems to have been a bit reluctant about ante natal classes hasn't he? So maybe he just directed his grump at that.

MotherOfCleo Wed 19-Jun-13 14:16:32

haha, purple, I'm sat waiting now.....want to know so badly....eeeek. grin

Frogcatcher Wed 19-Jun-13 14:25:35

Afternoon all. I'm back from being AWOL. I had to change phones due to leaving work & our Internet at home was on the blink plus I've just not been feeling v chatty with the stress of it all I guess. Wow to all the bump pics tho! I could post a pic of my flat tummy in size 8 jeans but you might report me to MN for emotional cruelty grin. I'm actually a bit jealous esp as PIL seem to have started bump watch & MIL accused me of losing weight!
Has my booking in appt with midwife today & it was all quite dull. I threw the student midwife doing it into a tiz as I don't want either of our local hospitals & she'd not done the forms for the other one before. First question & she has to call the midwife back in! As it wasn't at my drs I have to traipse off to the hospital to get my bloods done tho which is annoying.
I'm dated at 11 wks today (tho i think i'm less than that) so they better send me a scan date sharpish.

janey1234 Wed 19-Jun-13 14:30:54

Hi frog! Good to see you again. And yes, booking in appts are totally underwhelming!

Urm where is mother? I too can't stop poking my nose into other people's business wondering how she's getting on...

janey1234 Wed 19-Jun-13 14:31:24

Oh and frog - you can keep your stomach away - think I would cry!!

MotherOfCleo Wed 19-Jun-13 16:06:04

Sorry, I'm back grin Its a little boy, currently named Harvey Sebastian grin the scan was amazing, 10 fingers, 10 toes, eveything where it should be, slightly large head (gulp) and very very long legs, which he said were doing a merry dance on my bladder as he's currently breech.

I agree re booking in appointments, found mine very underwhelming, think I expected a fanfare or something wink

janey1234 Wed 19-Jun-13 16:20:44

Hooray mother!!! Alex and I were right! <smug>
Gorgeous name as well. Harvey is the middle name we'll use if we have a boy so I might be a teensy bit biased wink

BraveLilBear Wed 19-Jun-13 16:24:23

Ooh another boy Mother great stuff! Glad to hear he's got everything where it should be grin

Hello Frog! Welcome back grin Hope things are easing up... Don't worry about losing weight - I lost nearly a stone in first 13 weeks or so tho you wouldn't know now to look at me

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 16:38:32

Congratulations Mother!

Quodlibet Wed 19-Jun-13 18:49:11

Congrats Mother! Does anyone else know what they are having?

Brave I am joining the YANBU chorus - your DP was being really rude. Not only in the context of the group, I think it is really unsupportive of what you are going to have to go through (birth) - he should be trying his best to pay attention for your sake, whatever his opinion. I wonder what is causing him to 'switch off' and mentally opt out. Is he worried about the birth at all?

Cavort Wed 19-Jun-13 18:50:12

Congratulations Mother. Glad it's another member of the blue team to even up the numbers. And love name! smile

Brave I would have been most unimpressed if DH had done that. Who knows how men's minds actually work? I hope he sees how childish he's being the error of his ways and apologises.

Hi Frog, good to see you! I hope you're feeling less stressed now you've left work? And yes, you can bloody well keep your slim toned abs to yourself! grin

I have been with some friends and their toddlers to an outdoor paddling pool today. It was only after I had been paddling in it for about 10 minutes trying to get my cankles to go down that I realised I was the only adult in there who wasn't supervising a child. blush Oh well, I thought, it's too feckin hot and I don't care that the attendant is giving me funny looks.

My mate from work has text me to tell me she's 12 weeks pregnant. Another woman from my department is 20 weeks and then there's obviously me. I would have LOVED to have seen my boss's reaction to news of a third pregnancy! I bet he's secretly thinking to himself that he's never hiring a woman ever again unless she's 50+ grin

Cavort Wed 19-Jun-13 18:51:06

I'm having a girl Quod. smile

Frogcatcher Wed 19-Jun-13 19:42:14

Ooh go team blue mother! I am officially still employed till Fri but not been in today & only intend to go in on my last day to hand my IT stuff back & say goodbye to people. I've been enjoying my afternoon naps too much when I start to feel a bit yucky around 3pm!
Totally unimpressed with my NHS antenatal care so far on reflection. What is the point at 11 wks at asking me how long I've been taking folic acid for? What if i had said folic what?! Midwife didn't actually ask how I was, whether I'd had sickness or any problems. And they didn't even have scales so I had to give my own height & weight! There was a leaflet in the pack about an NCT early pregnancy class offered by my hospital but I'm too late for it now.

Paddling pool sounds good cavort with or without child. It was so muggy out today. Am almost glad I'm going to be at my fattest in Dec/jan and will gloss over all the parties, photos, nice frocks etc where I will be a walrus not to mention sober.

HazleNutt Wed 19-Jun-13 19:49:29

Quod I'm having a boy.

The temperature has gone down a bit, bliss. Well, it's currently still 30, but after the 36 earlier, it feels quite pleasant. Pool is 27. Frog your timing is certainly better - if I'm having another one, I'll plan the last trimester for winter time.

Still no signs that anything will be happening any time soon.

Congratulations Mother!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 08:43:06

checking in, still here. Nothing happening. Have made plans with some friends to go to a nice restaurant on Saturday, in the hope that according to Murphy's law, the baby might decide to mess the plans up, but I have a feeling he'll be later than that.

Quodlibet Thu 20-Jun-13 09:00:09

I did know you were having a boy, Hazle, and that Cavort had a girl on the way. Is everybody else waiting to find out?

Janey, is it you watching Sopranos at the mo? I am so gutted about James Gandolfini - what a genius.

Hazle do you have a formal work stop date or are you just playing it by ear?

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:01:19

So tomorrow is your official d-day hazle? How exciting. Seems like yesterday that you got your BFP - the first of us elderberries!

Seeing the consultant midwife today. My consultant is happy to do my elcs, but as part of nhs paperwork she needs to give her approval. Hilariously the consultant said he completely understood all my logical reasons for wanting one, but said his advice would be to not discuss them with the midwife. He said my best tactic was to just say I was really scared of natural labour?! I'm a shit liar as well so wish me luck...

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:04:07

Cross post quod.
Yep, I'm having a surprise. No gut feeling either way really!

And yes, I have been watching the sopranos. Watched the last episode yesterday and was sobbing about it. Met a friend for lunch yesterday and we were both saying how much we loved tony, despite him being a Very Bad Man. So gutted this morning when I saw he'd died, oddly feel genuinely a bit upset about it.

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 09:14:32

yes, due tomorrow. How did this happen? The last weeks really flew by.

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 09:14:59

Are you getting fed up yet Hazle? I have been getting increasingly fed up over the last few days as I am keeping active but end up hurting all over from it. I wonder if it's our body's way of getting us past the fear of labour by making us so miserable we can't wait for the pain to start?! I am not relishing the prospect of another possible 3 weeks of this.

Purple when are your sweeps due to start? My MW is going to offer me one next Wednesday, which is my due date, but if you have one before then and report back that it's really painful I can see me saying definitely no! I already have the fear about it!

I think my baby has changed position from where she's been for the last 8ish weeks with her back on the right hand side of my bump and her limbs battering the left, to what I can only conclude is back to back. sad I am no expert, but I can't feel her back at all now and seem to have limbs at the front making odd shapes. I really really hope I'm wrong as back to back labour is supposed to be much more painful. When I get to hospital in labour, if they say she's back to back I might just tell them to take me straight to the CLU because I WILL be having an epidural.

DH says he had a dream last night that the baby was black when she was born. I asked if he has subconscious concerns that he's not the father, to which he replied, "Not concerns, it's more like hope." shock grin Always hilarious, my DH not.

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:27:58

quod ahh congrats on having a boy! I'm having a surprise. Weirdly everyone keeps calling it 'he' accidentally, even me, I bet that's just because the name we call it in real life sounds a little bit masculine.

Spoiler alert on box sets next time please!! grin

Had a terrible night sleep, woke up at 4am stressing about a potential loft extension disrupting things but we need to get it done at some point especially if we're going to try and have two kids and we only have two decent sized bedrooms at the moment. Problem is, I was hoping to work from home as much as poss during my pregnancy and it's bound to disrupt that (noise/electrics for wifi), also hate the idea of dust everywhere and breathing it in. But if we wait, means I'd be doing it at some point with a child or potentially two, can't decide if that would be better. All doesn't seem as bad as it does when I'm thinking about it in the middle of the night! Don't think DH understands why I'm hesitant, to him it's "just a bit of building work".

Good luck with the midwife consultancy janey - if it makes you feel better, I don't think you're lying that much actually, as being worried about the down sides of natural birth being more likely for you would make you more anxious about it!

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:29:40

There wasn't a spoiler! I was careful not to give anything away! Plus you know I cry about everything...

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:30:53

grin at cavort's ethnic surprise baby! And good luck to hazle!

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:32:09

Oh I see, did he die in real life, that's not the end of the sopranos? grin making me laugh, I thought that was a character and the ending!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 09:38:06

cavort, on the one hand - yes would be nice to see my toes again and not to be out of breath whenever the dogwalks have uphill parts. But then again I am still terrified a little concerned about the labour process.

I would not worry about the back to back at this stage, I read that most babies in such position tend to turn around when labour starts. Mine keeps moving his butt from left to right and has moved even lower, but otherwise not even a Braxton-Hicks here.

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:39:46

Oh and I meant mother congrats on the boy earlier! Sleep deprived...grin

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 09:40:51

alex I totally understand the stress about renovations! I find them massively disruptive, not "just a bit of building work". We did our kitchen and living room last year and I wanted to do the downstairs bathroom before the baby comes, but the kitchen renovations, all the mess and inconvenience, put me off the idea for a while. So it will have to wait til I go back to work and leave DH home to deal with it all. grin

Quod - I'm having a girl, I was too impatient to have a surprise!

Cavort - I had an attempted sweep on tue though my cervix was too tilted for them to do the full jiggery pokery. I'll be honest it was pretty uncomfortable but not the utter agony that some describe but maybe that's because they couldn't do a proper job of it?. My community midwives said they're 'probably too busy' to do the additional sweep the hospital requested for tomorrow so my next one will be Monday. I'll report back to you then!

I can hugely recommend going and wallowing around a swimming pool if you're achey, it made a massive difference to me, could have almost wept when gravity re asserted itself when I got out of the water but still had the least painful day I've had in a loooong time. Go, walk, fl

Float, no swimming required.

Also, my feet/cankles reached epic elephantine proportions last night, I reckon I could have given Janey a run for her money. Ended up driving to mums with my feet half hanging out of the back of my biggest set of flip flops as I couldn't even get them on, went through all her sandals and found one pair I could just about squeeze my feet into and borrowed them. Only thing is, her feet are TWO AND A HALF sizes bigger than mine!

Frogcatcher Thu 20-Jun-13 09:57:45

LOL at cavort's 'humorous' DH!

Did anyone else have the stage when they really regretted getting pg for totally selfish reasons? It's not his fault but SS was rummaging around in the DVDs when DP was out last night & found an old photo CD. He put it on & there were a load of photos of DP's trip to Oz with ex before SS was born. Just made me realise that we won't be doing amazing trips like that together for a v long time & I felt bad that I was rushing to have a baby cos of my age. I was quite upset by it all when DP got home. God I can't wait for these first trimester hormones to bugger off!

Frogcatcher Thu 20-Jun-13 09:59:17

Am a bit disturbed by cankle stories - hopefully they're not as bad in cold weather as I can hardly wear flip flops in January?!

BraveLilBear Thu 20-Jun-13 10:09:59

Morning all!

DP hasn't apologised but I've moved on. Life's too short. Will tackle next week if needed. Something's definitely triggering him, but the reaction is still childish. Will see.

I'm Team Green/Surprise, like Janey... Think it's a girl, DP thinks boy.

Can't believe your due date is tomorrow Hazle - is that 40 weeks or 41?

Today I have my replacement with me for two days. She's very slim and pretty and she's a doctor (PhD). So if I go quiet, I'm not in labour, just looking busy grin

Have a fun day y'all!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 10:19:02

That's 40 weeks Brave. So technically, as it's a French baby and they apparently cook longer, I'm due next Friday only - but being due here also means that I'm supposed to show up at the hospital for induction.

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 10:20:59

Hazle that's reassuring about the back to back. Like you, I am scared enough about labour without having that to worry about as well.

Purple I might have said this before, but I think my irrational fear of sweeps comes from having a coil fitted about 4 years ago. They have to insert it via a tube through the cervix which involved forcing it to dilate to half a centimetre and I have quite honestly never experienced pain like it. The nurse had to peel me back down off the ceiling. My rational side keeps telling me it was so painful because the cervix wasn't supposed to dilate at that time, whereas with an impending baby it's supposed to be soft, effaced and possibly semi-dilated already and therefore not painful, but then I think about my MW's fat fingers and remember how painful half a cm was and I go to pieces. blush I know I am being a total wuss and just need to man up about it. DH hasn't been to any appointments with me (apart from scans) but has offered to come along to hold my hand I will probably break his fingers. Oh well, serves him right for his wise cracks

2.5 sizes bigger then normal? Wow, that's impressive! I reckon mine are hovering around a size bigger than normal at the moment but if I stand still in one place for too long they go huge and I have to elevate them to get them to go down again.

Hmmm, floating around a pool like a Manatee does sound tempting...

Ah yes Frog, I remember the 'oh my god what the hell have I done?' Phase if pregnancy, I'm sure it's just the stupid hormones, it passed quite quickly for me. I think it's only natural to freak out a bit, it's a pretty big change in your life!

You're not nearly as disturbed about the cankles as I am, they're still massive this morning, I genuinely don't know how I'm going to go out later as at this moment I can't even get the two sizes too big sandals on.

Oh and just for your amusement, I forgot to tell you that yesterday while I had my nice relaxing float around the pool I stupidly left OH's weapon of mass destruction dog free to roam the whole downstairs. Came home to utter carnage, she'd eaten cushions from the sofa, DVD box sets, paperwork and...my maternity notes. That's right, I have to turn up to the midwife on Monday and hand her a half chewed bundle of green papers that used to be my notes and tell her the dog ate my homework.

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 10:24:40

One less thing to worry about - they don't do sweeps here.

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 10:34:06

Frog I have regular battles with my own guilt at my reasons for getting pregnant. I am having one at the moment because Glastonbury is coming up and I would love to be going rather than sitting around in pain feeling like a whale wondering if I will ever go to a festival ever again? I have been to one or two festivals every Summer since I was about 20 as well as 2/3 decent holidays a year, weekends away, regular gigs, etc., all of which will have to come to an end, at least for a while. And then there's the work-related guilt... we could afford for me to be a SAHM but I want to work for the sake of my own sanity and because I don't want to live off DH, so it makes me question if this is selfish that I don't want to stay at home with my child? People keep telling me that all this worry will disappear as soon as I hold DD in my arms and she makes me melt <soppy> so here's hoping I can enjoy Glastonbury on the TV without any regret while holding my baby. grin

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 10:36:07

grin at dog eating homework. Mine ate my work BlackBerry, but they're too cute to get annoyed at.

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 10:47:56

I need to have a talk with my dogs, they are refusing to eat the work Blackberry grin

I'm not feeling gulity about going back to work though. Sure, if I was still living in Estonia, I certainly would take more time than those pesky 14 weeks here, but I could not be a SAHM for years and years. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, if that's what you want, but it's not for me. This would not make me a good mother. My own mum always worked and she loves her career - she would have been a very bored, frustrated SAHM and in no way better for us.

Quodlibet Thu 20-Jun-13 10:48:56

Alex we've got a load of renovations still to do too. On the long-term list is kitchen overhaul and possible loft conversion, but before baby arrives we've got living room and small bedroom to decorate, storage to build, doors to hang, two windows to replace, loft to insulate (possibly involves asbestos removal) and maybe bathroom floor to retile if I can work out a way to do it cheaply. Having only just recovered from all the work we had to do when we moved in I am dreading getting all the DIY stuff out again.

Hazle - send the phone here, wolf dog would happily munch it for you, she's rather partial to

Phones. Must have fat fingers as well as fat feet - keep hitting post before I've finished!

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 11:09:23

Eek quod we've also found out we've got to do damp proofing downstairs (as they didn't do it properly 5 years ago) which apparently is major building work and will mean moving in with MIL for a couple of weeks! hmm Then redecorating! I think with the loft, it's the length of time, the dust (can't be good to breathe that in when preggers) and also the fact it might get in the way of me working from home as much as poss! But would that be any easier with a child if we're going to end up doing that anyway?!

Wonder if my cat can eat my work laptop so I can put my feet up today? wink

I'm feeling guilty already about the fact I might need to be a SAHM unless I can work out a good way to work alongside it, financially and work hours-wise. It's more the fact I would feel bad not bringing in money and DH being the only breadwinner.

BraveLilBear Thu 20-Jun-13 13:23:24

Ahhh Glastonbury... Am so gutted we're not going this year - especially as Vampire Weekend are playing (worth entry price alone, almost) but then aside from the whole being 37 weeks pregnant thing, the forecast is for horrendous mud again, which makes me feel a little easier. Will properly bawl my eyes out when I watch it on telly tho i can blame hormones as all my family are there again!

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 13:54:03

Me too Brave sad <sighs, repositions black Glastonbury arm band and eats another massive comfort cake>

Quodlibet Thu 20-Jun-13 14:06:14

They have midwives at Glastonbury you know... You have to check in with them and give your tent location if you are over a certain gestation, as they get the occasional festival birth...don't fancy it? grin

I don't mind a few years off the festivals (DP and I both do a lot of festivals through work so they've become a bit of a busman's holiday) but the loss of potential to head off backpacking somewhere exotic is beginning to make me feel a bit glum.

On that note - we still haven't booked our holiday for September. Where can I go at 26 weeks? What do I need to think about?

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 14:07:20

at 26 weeks, you can go anywhere. Just get proper insurance.

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 14:20:14

I might be tempted Quod if I wasn't so bloody knackered! And I haven't got a ticket - I would have to get one off a tout and take a big bag of wigs, glasses, etc. to make myself look like the person on the ticket. grin A friend of mine is a Dental Nurse and always 'works' at Glasto for about 2 hours a day then gets pissed for the rest and she has told me about women giving birth there. She said one hippy women carried on dancing while in labour then just wandered off to see the midwife to get the baby delivered, popped the baby on the boob and went off to carry on dancing. shock

Re holiday, just go wherever you want to go. I felt absolutely fine at 26 weeks. I guess the only things you need to think about is feeling too uncomfortable if you get too hot, or getting tired easily if you choose an active holiday. And if you're flying back past 28 weeks many airlines will ask for a fit to fly certificate. And I second what Hazle says, get good insurance as soon as you book as if you need to cancel for any reason relating to pregnancy you should get your money back.

MotherOfCleo Thu 20-Jun-13 14:45:56

We are going away when I'll be 24 weeks, we have travel insurance through our bank (although I need to check the fine print). I am considering getting the european health card (new e111) just incase too. You have to call them to apply though which is a pain.

I plan on veging out for a week.grin

MotherOfCleo Thu 20-Jun-13 14:47:53

Oh and re glasto our council are showing it for free on huge screens on the main lawns so anyone can go down and watch/eat/drink/sing along/picnic as they want. Sounds good to me grin

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 14:50:52

So somewhere in Europe? September is a good time, still warm enough but not too warm. Portugal or Spain?

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 14:52:17

Hi mother my European health card has just arrived and I only had to do a quick form online. DH says my pregnancy is also covered on his Barclays insurance so am hoping he's right and has checked properly!

I'm not missing festivals that much but am going to really miss my exotic holidays! Although when I went to the Maldives in Feb I was praying it was my last exotic holiday for a while as ttc was really getting to me so have to remind myself of that!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 15:02:19

I'm not planning to miss exotic holidays, babies are portable. My niece has been travelling all over since she was about 2 months old.

BraveLilBear Thu 20-Jun-13 15:08:25

September - head to Greece! Had the most amazing holiday there last year in Kos. Temperature was perfect 24-28 every day. Not too hot but lovely. Am jealous grin

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:12:38

I'm with you. By the age of two my nephew had been to California, Borneo, Singapore, Thailand, Sydney, France and Langkawi. Money permitting I fully intend to ensure baby Janey is well travelled!

Just got back from seeing consultant midwife. She was a bit of an old boot. Outrageously told me some stats about elcs which were wrong/outdated so we ended up having quite a discussion! Just seen she wrote in my notes that I am "extremely well read" blush She clearly hated me for being a know it all having done my research

Anyway decision for cs isn't up to her but she agreed I shouldn't go past term with BP issues, and said it sounded like the consultant has already made up their minds if I'm
booked in. She did say to ask about putting it back a few days just to get past 39 weeks so will ask about that next week...

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:16:55

Oh and re travel insurance, I had it included with my bank acct (HSBC premiere) which covered everything BUT I had to be able to prove I'd asked the doctor if I was ok to travel for the insurance to be valid. That was an interesting appt - crazy doctor asked me if I was planning to drink lots or take any illegal in Thailand blush

Anyway check the small print on your policies - Alex I would def make sure you have private insurance too, I saw in the news last week that some hospitals in Spain have (illegally) been refusing the e111/ehic and only accepting patients with private cover. Sure you won't need it but worth knowing you're covered!

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:18:50

Going mad...

When I said "I'm with you" I meant to say "I'm with you hazle". Doesn't make much sense without saying who I agree with!

HazleNutt Thu 20-Jun-13 15:25:58

janey that sounds like my anesthesiologist - nooo, of course the labour won't be slowed down with an epidural! No, no higher chance for interventions.
And I was sitting there like hmm beause obviously there's plenty of research telling otherwise.

How far along are you now, what would just past 39 weeks mean?

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:32:21

It means instead of next Friday, it would be the Monday or Tuesday instead (1st or 2nd). Selfishly wouldn't mind another weekend at home beforehand!

What I don't understand is why they say these things? Are they just misinformed (worrying) or do they think we're all idiots (also worrying).

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:34:27

DH says he spoke to the bank and explained and they said I am covered (apparently covers both of us) and for pregnancy-related stuff too. So he's saying I don't need private. He didn't say anything about getting doctor's approval but then I guess they wouldn't mention it! I might call my doctor tomorrow and ask if she can easily just do me an approval note.

Depending on my work situ, I think it's cash flow that might hold us back rather than the baby not being able to travel. There definitely won't be any luxury Maldives holidays for a while! There will def be holidays though, in fact where I'm going in Spain will be perfect when we have a baby/toddler.

Frogcatcher Thu 20-Jun-13 15:41:40

Oh dear. I've just been to my hospital for my bloods & it took me 10 min to find somewhere to park as the car park was full. You also have to pay in advance & have the right money as no change is given or cards taken. WTF?! That's going to be interesting when I'm in labour & DP has thrown me out at the door. <adds lots of change to hospital bag essentials list>. Guess it might deter visitors though which I'm still not keen on the idea of.

Alexandra6 Thu 20-Jun-13 15:47:27

My hospital is a nightmare for parking too frog (MIL is constantly bringing it up as we chose that hospital over another which is closer with better parking). I've put some cab numbers in my hospital bag so if it's a busy time of day, we might just get a cab if I'm in labour, we'll see. MIL keeps saying I might end up giving birth in the back of a car (it's only a 20 min drive!). Well if it's that speedy, maybe I won't mind! wink Def agree about the change in the hospital bag.

janey1234 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:29:19

Alex - you'll never struggle for parking again now I've told you about those two secret streets - they were empty again today! smile

BraveLilBear Thu 20-Jun-13 16:45:00

Two things about parking - one, most hospital car parks, in the middle of the night, are next to empty. Two, most babies come in the middle of the night.

The other thing is we heard at our antenatal classes that we can get a month-long ticket to park for a tenner - we just have to go to a special office to get it signed off. There might be something similar there?

Also, our hospital are moderately sympathetic to dads-to-be abandoning parking car right outside, telling security they'll be back in half an hour and then re-parking when mum is somewhere safe.

We're definitely planning future holidays... if/when money allows. When we were in Kos last year there was a German couple with an 16 month old who was fab. They had a great time, and still managed plenty of chill time when he napped in a special kiddie sun-protector tent/cot by the pool. I also think she was pregnant again as her hubby kept rubbing her tummy. Was very sweet grin

Cavort Thu 20-Jun-13 16:47:31

Mother your council sounds ace putting on a mini Glasto! Ours would never do anything like that. They think we should count ourselves lucky that they bother to empty the bins.

Frog and Alex I think that every hospital is shite for parking. In fact it must be one of the prerequisites when building a new one. Ours in no exception despite most of it being newly-built so I could be another one dumped at the door with my bags in labour while DH drives around for hours looking for a space. I have got parking change in my labour bag but keep dipping into it and the high energy snacks.

I am so glad I haven't got a Consultant to argue with, they all sound so infuriating! angry Janey and Hazle I am glad you are clued up and in a position to argue back with them.

I also have no intention of cutting down on holidays. I just feel a little bit sad that they won't be the easy, carefree booze-fest that they once were, but we will definitely still be going with baby in tow. We are still planning to go to Florida in October but I have read that the law is changing on 1st September meaning that we can't take DSD out of school during term-time, and we need a few extra days as the week-long half term isn't really long enough to go to Florida. Children can currently have up to 10 days authorised absence during term-time for holidays or whatever. So we're holding off booking anything until this is clarified as nobody seems to know exactly what is going on.

I knew I had spoke too soon when I said I have had an illness-free pregnancy. I've had a dull toothache for a few weeks so I finally went to the Dentist today. He can't see anything wrong with the tooth so he thinks it's an infection and has prescribed antibiotics. I know these are safe to take during pregnancy but with the due date so close I am going to hold off taking them until after the birth and just put up with the toothache.

Ah yes, change for parking, that's something else I really need to pack into my still empty hospital bag...I really am a bit of a failure at this pregnant lady thing aren't I grin

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 08:19:06

40 weeks and all quiet on the western front. Except all the texts and messages asking if I've had the baby yet. Considering sending this link to my whole mailing list: haveyouhadthatbabyyet.com/

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 08:52:17

Ha Hazle, do people think you are sitting on the sofa with your bag on your lap looking at your watch and wondering what time the first contraction will be? Happy due date day and FX Master Nutt puts in an appearance soon. grin

Happy Due Date Hazle!

janey1234 Fri 21-Jun-13 09:12:29

God, due date already. This is suddenly starting to feel very real!

Am feeling very chirpy this morning. Had the best night's sleep I've had in ages, with only ONE loo trip. Amazing. Feel like a different person today which does make me worry how I will cope with the sleep levels that come with a new baby, am going to be crap!

So hazle, any news? You had the baby yet? winkwink

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 09:16:11

Happy Due Date Hazel, hope you're a mummy soon grin

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 09:30:11

Our first elderberry due date! Happy due date hazle! janey got there first with the "have you had the baby yet" joke hehe grin

I just got the train a couple of stops an forgot my badge, was funny overhearing two guys talking about whether I was pregnant or not. Probably didn't want to risk offering me the seat in case I just had a belly! wink

Bless my mum, really excited that she's just bought her first baby presents, I asked her what they are - toddler books wink hmmm that will be useful for a newborn haha! She's big on education, I was the first one reading in my nursery class (smug)

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 09:46:11

Haha, it is hard for guys, if they get it wrong they pay for it big time.

I've uploaded a pic of my unimpressive 20 week bump, although I feel like it's finally grown a bit overnight, I am having to sit further from my desk today as I can feel it. smile

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 10:05:15

That's a nice cute little bump Mother smile

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:05:54

It looks like my bump mother! And Cleo is ridiculously cute!

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:06:49

Oh and does your bump get bigger as the day goes on - my bump is always bigger in the evenings! Must be bloating.

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 10:18:39

Cheers ladies, it feels very small for 20 weeks though? Thought I'd be bigger. Poor bubs looked so cramped at the scan. Even the sonographer said he was bent at some funny angles. smile I know I should be careful what I wish for! Remind me of me saying I want a bigger bump when I'm huge and uncomfortable. grin

Yep Alex, after I eat I seem to get bigger, especially when my food baby and actual baby join up, then I just look chubby! Oh and cheers re Cleo , she's my little pickle.

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 10:20:18

Alex my bump still does that now. It is much bigger/more uncomfortable at the end of the day than it is in the mornings.

Eeeek midwife and student coming to my house to do sweep in next hour - cue frantic tidying up. Oh Christ and I haven't selotaped my dog eaten notes together yet either, aarrgghh! Wish me luck!

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 10:36:28

Good luck purple thinking of you!

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 10:39:53

Good luck Purple! Just gather everything up and throw it in a cupboard! grin

Let us know how bad it is how you get on.

Thanks! Will do!

janey1234 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:51:45

Good luck purple!! Blimey this really is happening for us all now.

Forget tidying up, midwife will be too busy fiddling with your bits doing her job to notice how tidy the house is.

Hope it goes ok!

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:53:13

Good luck purple!

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 11:07:15

purple so you might have the first berry baby!

Now do you think my neighbours would think it's weird if I asked to use their trampoline? grin

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 11:09:48

Do it Hazel, worth it just to see the look on their faces!

Definitely worth a go Hazle! No double back flips though hey superwoman

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 11:27:37

grin at trampoline bouncing.

My friend took Castor Oil at 5pm and was in active labour by 7pm. She did have 2 solid hours of projectile vomiting and explosive diarrhoea in between though which is not that appealing, but I might reconsider this view if induction is fast approaching. Getting labour started with a dose of the Brad Pitts still sounds better than some of the stories about that drip! grin

"A small study of 100 overdue women found that 58 per cent began active labour after a single dose of 60ml of castor oil. This was compared with four per cent who started active labour after receiving no treatment.
Taking the castor oil did no harm to the mums or babies, but all the women who took it felt nauseous. However, bear in mind the study was not large enough to be conclusive.
If you want to try castor oil, Talk to your GP or midwife at your next antenatal appointment. The usual dose is 114ml (4fl oz) of castor oil mixed with orange juice."

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 11:31:15

Hm I might try the trampoline before castor oil..does not sound very pleasant. It's probably just the laxative effect of the oil, so maybe some lactulose could do the trick?

BraveLilBear Fri 21-Jun-13 11:38:08

Good luck Purple! Hope it goes well and doens't hurt too bad... everything crossed...

Lactulose works in a different way I think - it breaks down the ahem waste, whereas I think castor oil and other laxatives irritate the bowel (and other organs ie uterus).

I've seen midwives on here warning against it - it can make you very poorly and if you lose too much fluid, could hinder labour because of dehydration etc...

Think I'd prefer the drip tbh confused

Well I can report back that it wasn't at all painful, less so than last time and that was only uncomfortable, this was genuinely no pain at all and it was a student who did it. Cervix still posterior but thinning and approx 1cm dilated so they managed to 'get a finger in and give it a good jiggle around' (their words, apologies for the rather graphic image)so fingers crossed things are at least heading in the right direction!
So on my experience, sweeps are nothing to be afraid of unless you're phobic about being naked from the waist down spread eagled on your bed with two women looking at your bits! Hope this helps with your fear Cavort if you do have to have one but I suppose everyone is different and maybe it does hurt for some people.

I'd rather have a sweep than castor oil from the sound of it anyway!

BraveLilBear Fri 21-Jun-13 11:53:24

sweeps are nothing to be afraid of unless you're phobic about being naked from the waist down spread eagled on your bed with two women looking at your bits!

That'll be me then! blush I'm not very brave at all really.

Glad you found it ok though - next stop, gym ball bouncing??

janey1234 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:58:56

Good work purple! Reassuring for everyone I'm sure that it wasn't too terrible

Going for a 'swim' (waddle around the pool) first then yes, I think gym ball bouncing and eating ice cream might be in order. Not that I expect anything to happen but if I can at least encourage things along it means if/when they do have to induce me it's less likely to fail. Next sweep Monday. I really really am going to get around to packing my hospital bag this afternoon. Someone give me a kick me up the doodah if I don't! I can't KEEP putting it off!

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 12:07:27

That's really reassuring purple! With my clomid and cervix scans, I'm getting quite used to being spread eagled with strange people looking at my bits, it's usually male consultants so two women would be a step up embarrassment wise! grin I didn't like the idea of sweeps so good to know it wasn't too bad.

Thanks for the castor oil warning bear!

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 13:37:07

Ah that's reassuring news then Purple or you are a good liar. wink No, i'm not at all bothered at the thought of strangers going in elbow deep, it's just the pain I have issues with. My MW said she will have a look to see if my cervix looks favourable and let me know before proceeding, so if it's still closed I will be saying no but FX it's already effaced and dilated a bit.

Enjoy your swim and make sure you let us know the very second you have a sign of impending labour. <stern face> And pack your bag! grin

No lying I promise although maybe it's your ideas about elbow deep that have made you worry, I'm not a cow! (Visions of vets with those big gauntlets on up to the shoulder!) wink

You can be assured that I'll be on here announcing every twinge though - after all, I told you lot about my BFP a good 6 hours or so before I even told my OH!

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 14:27:36

I think we told someone about their BFP before they actually took the test, because they had the symptoms - who was it?

janey1234 Fri 21-Jun-13 14:29:23

We did, was it mother?!

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 14:34:20

And I'm with you re: twinges purple. Reminds me of pregnancy symptom spotting, now we've moved on to labour symptom spotting-knicker checking. Pretty much the same, except 'are my boobs sore' I now have 'hmm, is that backpain?'

Alexandra6 Fri 21-Jun-13 14:34:49

grin at elbow deep vet treatment! That really made me laugh!

cavort, purple and hazle just wanted to wish you all lots of luck as I won't be online out in Spain so I'll be missing out! (although very glad work can't reach me!) janey has promised to text me exciting news, including hers! janey feel free to lie edit the news and tell me how easy child birth was for all of you grin only joking, I want details! I'll be back soon to congratulate you all! x

Cavort Fri 21-Jun-13 14:40:44

I think it was Brave who we bullied into encouraged to POAS. grin

Is that the sound of a bag being packed Purple? wink

Yeah yeah! Alright I'll go and do it! <...contemplates another cup of tea first but cavort has got her STERN voice on...>

Have a fabulous holiday Alex - I hope you have a lovely relaxing time.

BraveLilBear Fri 21-Jun-13 15:11:32

Twas me indeed who was cajoled into POAS. Was adamant AF was on her way. But eventually left work on time, sprint-walked to get to Boots on way home, made them keep the shop open while I grabbed the cheapest pack (so unconvinced) and then waited until the next morning to test.

Went positive in about three seconds flat (before control window even full!)

<Sigh> Feels like a million years ago!

Have a fantabulous holiday Alex grin

Funny isn't it because BFP does feel like a long time ago and yet pregnancy seems to have flown by, can't quite figure out where the time has gone!

Right, I think I've done all the packing I can do, I think everything else will need to be last minute. Don't know what all the fuss was for, only took 5 minutes wink (have probably forgotten half the stuff I need and that's why it was so quick)

janey1234 Fri 21-Jun-13 16:00:09

Oh yes brave sorry, 'twas you! I think I privately bullied mother via PM's. blush

MotherOfCleo Fri 21-Jun-13 16:03:27

haha, yep janey I remember your messages, I was terrified it was a chemical and you were sure all was fine and I was being daft. Turns out you were right! grin

Frogcatcher Fri 21-Jun-13 19:41:14

Well I missed all the sweeps, veterinary discussions & bag bullying due to my last afternoon at work!
Got your car park change Cavort?

I am now officially a lady of leisure or unemployed depending on whether you are a pessimist or optimist. My colleagues got me some lovely flowers so I felt quite touched but luckily the hormones stayed at bay so I didn't blub. A leaving present is also on its way by post apparently as there wasn't time to organise before.
Just worried myself with reading about another MMC on the Jan 14 thread. Still no date through for my scan so think I may get another private one to reassure me.
I swear I feel better today too which doesn't help tho obviously at almost 11 wks I guess that's normal.
Any news hazle? You do realise that we are going to ask that at 2 hour intervals don't you?! grin

Frogcatcher Fri 21-Jun-13 19:42:18

Or even purple with the bag?! Sorry!

HazleNutt Fri 21-Jun-13 21:46:22

I think it's pretty safe to say that DS is starting his life by being late. hmm

Frogcatcher Fri 21-Jun-13 23:16:29

You might have said this hazle & I missed it but is your due date the French or English one? I heard from a French friend how they have an extra week so French babies are rarely late. If it's a French one then you really are late according to Anglo-Saxon medicine!

HazleNutt Sat 22-Jun-13 08:03:53

It's the 40-week one that's considered a normal length for a pregnancy in all other countries in the world except France. Here I am indeed due only next Friday - but will then be induced as well, they won't give you any extra time after that.

Morning all, anyone running odds on who is going to produce the first berry baby then? Hazle, Cavort or Janey are the front runners, don't think it will be me, not even a twinge.

It's obviously my OHs turn to be an utter wanker this week. He was moaning last night about how very inconvenient it is for me to have the baby midweek so he has to miss work and why can't they just induce me on a Friday afternoon so
He doesn't have to take time off? Because he's already had to miss three days work (for his bloody jolly with the boys!) and he needs to catch up and really the fact that my due date is a Tuesday is just massively inconvenient to him. KNOB HEAD.

Frogcatcher Sat 22-Jun-13 09:21:58

Oh dear purple I could say he's just scared & that's what's making him like this but I think your analysis is probably correct. Over on the Jan 2014 thread they invented a new word for OHs acting like this: cuntpuffin. I think that covers it. One girl over there has left her OH already. They rowed & he seriously asked whether he was the father & a lot of other awful things.
Have also just remembered that my old boss (who was a lovely bloke in every other way) was really annoyed that his wife's hospital wouldn't give her an elcs so he could fit it round his work either. Men!

Yep he's just being an arse I'm afraid, it's bad enough that because he's self employed he doesn't get any paternity leave and it very much seems like his plan is to drive me home from hospital then feck straight off to work and leave me on my own and that was bad enough but now he's complaining that the actual birth will take up too much of his time I actually want to strangle him.

MotherOfCleo Sat 22-Jun-13 09:54:29

They are incredibly stupid (and quite brave) we are horrmonal women for gods sake do not anger us. wink

Why dont they think before they open their traps, mine lacks tact at the moment but hasnt entered the realm of the complete w@nker yet. I feel for you purple, why cant they actually open their eyes to the fact their priorities need to change, screw work, they are going to become daddies. I would say that was more important?!? Can you plat devils advocate and say you dont want him at the birth and will ask your mum/sister/best friend etc instead? Maybe that would make him think?

Cavort Sat 22-Jun-13 09:56:43

Oh no Purple I was expecting to log on this morning to find overnight updates of how your labour had started and even possible news of a baby arrival this morning. grin

But your OH does sound like he's being a bit of a dick about it. If time off work was an issue he should have cancelled his jolly. Bloody men! angry

Mine also 'hasn't got time' to have a baby now, and the little spare time he has got is mainly this week so if I go overdue we are screwed apparently and he will probably have to work via a wifi dongle while I am in labour. confused I am thinking of changing my birthing partner to be the dog.

HazleNutt Sat 22-Jun-13 09:57:11

I'll help to hide the body, Purple. If he had time for the bloody jolly, he should not complain about his child being born during work hours.

Not a twinge here either. Have to make some complicated and expensive to cancel plans, maybe this would encourage him to move.

Changing birthing partner to the dog...now there's an idea! He certainly wouldn't believe me if I said I wanted mum there but he knows I prefer my dog to him anyway grin

Trying to invoke the law of sod doesn't seem to work Hazle, I've tried everything, being woefully underprepared, letting OH bugger off all the way to Surrey, not packing my bag...nothing.

The bloody cat just burst my gym ball as well so I can't even bounce to encourage baby out although I'm not sure I would today anyway what with it being the weekend knobhead

HazleNutt Sat 22-Jun-13 11:18:43

i'm on my second birth ball for the same reason. Evil cats. Found one sleeping in the bugaboo again as well - and I have the rain cover over it, no idea how they even manage to squeeze in.

Evil cat slept in the Moses basket last night <sigh> got to have words with these naughty cats. Thankfully it hasn't got the mattress or anything in it yet so hopefully nobody will feel the need to call social services about it.

...and anyway, didn't we decide all these germs and cat hairs would be good for a newborn's immunity?

Cavort Sat 22-Jun-13 12:29:07

Hazle it bodes well that your pram is going to be super-cosy for baby if your cats are choosing to kip in it. It's not that hard to hoover off cat hair.

Another one here whose dog burst the birthing ball with a bit of help from a drunken DH. Trouble is, he (the dog, not DH grin) thinks the new one is a toy for him and is constantly trying to swipe it from under me while I am on it so I wouldn't be surprised if another one bites the dust before baby arrives.

I cunningly seduced DH this morning with the phrase, "Do you want to put some prostaglandins on my cervix?" He replied saying he would take one for the team if he must. The romance in our relationship really is on fire at the moment. grin

We're off to our friends' posh Wedding this afternoon. They are both Solicitors and he is one of the Partners at a big firm. I am sure I will fit right in among their high-flying guests while sober and waddling around in a non-maternity dress which I have shoe-horned into and flip flops because none of my shoes fit.

Quodlibet Sat 22-Jun-13 14:20:47

Oh Purple that is knobbish. Clearly it hasn't dawned on him yet that a baby is going to mean a shift in priorities and having to put work second sometimes.
Mine is also self-employed and also earned minus points last week when he 'didn't have any time' (even though he was working at home all morning) to empty the bin and wash up despite me not being able to use the kitchen without retching because of the bin smell. I think I might have slammed the door on the way out to my 1.5hr commute.

HazleNutt Sat 22-Jun-13 16:11:30

Mine dared to sigh dramatically when I said I want to go to the market to get more cherries. Apparently he has been buying me cherries every day this week. The statement could be correct, if I now think about it. But I kindly reminded him not to argue with a heavily pregnant woman and cherries are healthy, I could be eating cookies instead.

Frogcatcher Sat 22-Jun-13 17:34:28

Boo to all the rubbish OHs. Mine is being quite sweet at the moment & mega excitable about being a dad as I have temporarily stopped yelling at him hormonally. I think my DP can take a month paternity leave which did cause a minor panic as to whether I would actually want him home for that long!

Is a birthing ball just the same as a gym ball? I have one of those deflated in a cupboard somewhere.

Come on berry babies - I want some labour news by the time I come back from the pub later. I'll need done excitement after a night on the Becks blue!

Frogcatcher Sat 22-Jun-13 17:37:54

Oh except not sweet enough to clean up the small animals guts that one of the cats left under the kitchen table last night. He has no idea how lucky he is that I'm not really sick as it was gross. Annoying how as two cats are mine & one is his he claims it must be my responsibility on the balance of probabilities!

HazleNutt Sun 23-Jun-13 10:15:11

frog due to toxo risk, you absolutely have an excuse not to clean up after the cats during pregnancy. I don't think dead mice are a risk, but you don't need to tell OH that.

Actually mine has been totally spoiling me, I barely do anything any more. Hoping to milk the breastfeeding the same way, pun intended - "Honeeeeyyyy, would you bring/take/do..."

janey1234 Sun 23-Jun-13 10:19:09

Hazle - surely your job post-birth is to sit feeding whilst issuing instructions to DH? wink

Just got round to opening and constructing the pram. Bit more complicated to put together than I'd expected! Quick question though - did you all was the "soft furnishings" on your prams / carrycots? I wasn't planning to but have just realised I've pre-washed everything else, including bedding - which I guess is as close to the baby? Seems like a PITA to do it but feeling like a bad mum-to-be if I don't?!

HazleNutt Sun 23-Jun-13 10:28:44

Yes, that's the plan. If this baby ever arrives, of course. hmm
I know you were just teasing me, but I am actually about to do some Bodycombat here, the more challenging tracks. slow walks are not doing the trick.

As for pram, I had to wash the pram mattress cover after cats had been sleeping there. If you have washed everything else then yes, would make sense I think.

janey1234 Sun 23-Jun-13 10:53:41

You're what hazle?! Hats off, truly, am properly impressed. I'm too tired to have bothered getting dressed yet blush

MotherOfCleo Sun 23-Jun-13 11:17:41

wow Hazel, impressed!!! Hope it works!

I just got back from an hour dog walk and am now totally knackered blush I am now off to a picnic with 2 friends and a 2 year old.....going to be even more knackered later then confused

Frogcatcher Sun 23-Jun-13 11:43:53

Oh yes hazle I abdicated from kitty litter as soon as I got my BFP! Unfortunately DP is a total wimp about dead or live cat 'presents'.
shock at the bodycombat too. I'm not yet dressed either & having shaken off the cough I've had for 10 weeks have now got a snotty nose so not really feeling up to swimming despite my new non-boob squashing supportive & allowing for tummy expansion tankini having arrived & wanting to try it out.

HazleNutt Sun 23-Jun-13 12:19:15

No it's not because I'm terribly fit and full of energy. And am about as flexible and light on my feet as an average hippo.
Just that this baby needs to get out at some point and even the easiest birth ever won't be exactly a walk in the park. I hate waiting and worrying about it, so the sooner the better.

This darned baby doesn't seem to want to move, no idea how people cope with going two weeks over due, I'm impatient already and I'm not even at my due date (though I've got a deadline to keep to!)

So from what I remember, Hazle, you've got until Friday to give birth or they will want to induce you as you'll be 41 weeks (that right?)

I've got until Friday then the consultant will book me in for induction, I'd guess Monday or tue?

I think Janey was possibly looking at Friday as her date for elcs?

Cavort needs to give birth this week so as to not inconvenience her DHs work schedule...

Busy week for the berries! I'm not as dedicated to the eviction process as Hazle though, no body combat for me! We're taking DSS bowling, that's strenuous enough for me I think.

HazleNutt Sun 23-Jun-13 12:25:37

Yes they said to go to hospital on Friday if nothing is happening. Not sure if that would also mean immediate induction or if they would wait til after the weekend too.

Cavort Sun 23-Jun-13 12:40:42

The very fact that a late baby will be inconvenient for DH's work means that's when our baby is destined to arrive. sad

My friend is 41+2 with no signs so is booked in for induction on Friday, and you lot will all have your babies before me. envy I really would like to get my lodger out now.

I did just have what I thought might be contractions while huffing and puffing up a big hill with the dog, but it turned out I just needed the toilet blush so still no signs here.

Pictures all over Facebook from yesterday's wedding, mostly front facing and wearing a dark dress so you can't really tell i'm pregnant and just look massively fat. angry The Bride & Groom left about 10.30ish in a helicopter, the flash gits so luckily not too late as I don't think I would have lasted much longer.

Janey I'm hoping to wash my pram bedding but it's all currently tightly wedged into a cupboard until baby arrives so will have to do it after she's born.

I am so impressed that you are trying some Bodycombat Hazle. I really hope it works for you.

janey1234 Sun 23-Jun-13 14:49:41

All washed and hanging out to dry. I think I knew I ought to do it but was being lazy thought it was worth checking.

Yes busy week indeed for us all. Think we're all reaching the point we wouldn't mind evicting the bumps. I'm fine, but it's really not that comfortable being knocked up right now...

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 07:01:04

No news here. Not a sign.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 07:36:25

Oh hazle hmm

How are you feeling? Well? Fed up?

So impressed with you doing body pump still. I walked for 20 mins yesterday, and had to keep stopping due to shooting pains and braxton hicks. Hats off.

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 07:53:15

Physically, I feel fine. Fed up with all the "I assume you've had the baby by now, yes?" messages and I don't like the wait.
Pains and increased braxtons are also a signs of labour starting, so I wouldn't mind some right now..

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 07:54:00

Are you at work today? Or allowed a a day off due to being past your due date...?

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 08:14:14

I'm working from home now, boss really should not complain.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 08:26:36

Again, hats off. I've forgotten all about my job already blush

Upset stomach this morning. Wouldn't it be ironic if I went into labour before Friday!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 08:29:02

Has anyone else seen today's report on Daybreak on Midwife care? Just what you need to see when you are about to have a baby. Some shocking statistics. I think this emphasises how important it is that we are really assertive with out MW to ensure we get the care we need.

I can't believe you are still working Hazle!

Nothing to report here either. sad The only thing that has ramped up so far is the number of dreams I am having that I have gone in to labour.

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 08:30:34

Sorry Janey but I hope you do go into labour... I just want one of us to have some baby action! grin

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 08:37:39

Don't worry I'm honestly not doing much, just a few emails and stuff.

janey what would they do then, would you still get your CS?

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 08:39:20

I think I would, depending on how quickly things were progressing. To be fair though, if I went into labour naturally before my due date I'd prob just give it a go. Weird hey.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 08:50:41

Although still no sign of leaky boobs so perhaps it's not around the corner after all. I think my boobs are broken confused

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 08:58:25

Mine haven't leaked for weeks Janey, so my one previously functioning boob also appears to be broken.

I've had breakfast followed by Chocolate Hobnobs. I really hope this baby hurries up before my sensible weight gain is ruined in these last few weeks. hmm

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 09:02:45

I haven't stepped on the scale for the past couple of weeks. Appetite has returned with a vengeance and I was gaining weight even with not eating and working out, so don't really want to know at the moment. Will deal with this afterwards.

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 09:08:11

I haven't been on the scales for a few weeks either, but I am just hungry all the time now so I guess it wouldn't be pretty if I did dare to hop on. I am still forcing eating healthily but I can't seem to stop eating crap as well. blush Fruit alone does not satisfy the sweet craving. It makes me feel guilty when I am munching on a Hobnob but obviously not guilty enough to stop. blush blush

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 09:20:53

Is it me or does Myleene Klass think she is some kind of parenting messiah? She is so patronising!

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 09:21:49

Will go to supermarket and get some pineapples now. Just read the thread about waters breaking in inconvenient places, supermarket seems to be quite a popular one, so fx grin

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 09:28:00

FX for supermarket flood Hazle. grin

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 09:43:00

Pineapples and cherries, I presume?

Cavort - hate myleene too. Waaay too perfect and know-it-all.

Frogcatcher Mon 24-Jun-13 10:08:12

Aaaah. Do not need to know about midwife issues. I think I've made an error in choosing my hospital & not even been to the maternity unit yet. We told DPs friend who works there & she said we should switch. She had both her children in our closer one as it has paediatric intensive care whereas its 25min by ambulance to that one from where we're planning to go. I knew I shouldn't have relied on DPs view as it was biased due to SS having been born in the bigger one & him wanting a different experience this time. Research time methinks!
In good news I don't have a UTI which the midwife picked up on the dipstick. Could have told them that as I'm not crouched on the toilet in agony!
Good luck with a supermarket labour hazle!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 10:38:55

Hmmm, has anyone seen Purple? <turns on labour radar>

Knowledge is power Frog so get Googling! You have plenty of time to decide yet.

Morning all, sorry to disappoint but I'm here with nothing to report but the odd twinge every now and then yesterday. OH has taken to asking me where it hurts and is the pain coming and going virtually every time I wince (which given the state of my back is really very frequently) like I'm going to go into labour and not mention it to him. It's getting annoying very fast!

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 10:56:16

Morning all - Purple, where are you? Sending happy labour thoughts... grin

Very busy week ahead for the berries, though don't think I'll be threatening any timescales with an early arrival... Just had a totally underwhelming midwife appt (36wks) with another different mw. She weighed me, and wrote me as 71 but it was clearly 70 cow couldn't work out where baby was lying so thought 'maybe it's a bit back to back' (little monkey has now come out of hiding and is sticking its back out to one side just to spite her, ha!)

And didn't write anything on my notes about fetal heartrate (I'm a geek, I like seeing it), position of baby or whether it was engaged or not. I assume not, but she didn't tell me either!


Had some snuggles with our friend's baby yesterday, who's now 3 and a half weeks old - and still less than the weight of an average newborn (6.10oz ish). This was worrying when I realised the size of him. And his head confused

Discovered two things - one it's very difficult to cuddle a baby with a big-ass bump in the way, and two, I need to build up my arm muscles - they were aching after just 20 minutes!!

What news elswhere?

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 10:58:04

X-post Purple you had me all excited then! Sounds like OH is trying to be caring (however annoying it comes across lol). Hopefully BabyMonster won't keep you waiting too much longer grin

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 10:59:32

Talking of UTIs, I have had cystitis on and off for 10 days now, just when I think it's gone the burn is back....grrr. Getting annoyed now. The chemists who had been telling me it would clear up on it own have now finally given me stuff for it so hope I see the back of it soon. Will please my OH as DTD was becoming less and less likely.

Also in other news I wish baby would move around, although its nice to feel him kicking, being kicked in the bladder is less fun. It's odd as after having the scan I now know what bits I'm being kicked by, basically the little nudges I feel are his little feet dancing on my bladder...little minx! smile

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 11:05:46

No, supermarket visit to induce labour didn't work either.

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 11:06:39

oh and I've decided I may not start an exercise class but do swimming instead....lame I know. But I took the dog for an hour walk yesterday and was knackered afterwards, plus I had a really sore muscle down one side of my bump so figure I don't want to push it too hard. Perhaps I should find an aqua aerobics class or something? Is that me being really feeble and over cautious?

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 11:15:03

Brave - I think the tip is to always sit in an armchair or with pillows at hand - is amazing how tiring holding a teeny baby can be!

Shame it didn't work hazle. Maybe you ought to get your DH to get smashed or go an work miles away for the day to invoke the law of sod?

I'm cooking up a load of food for the freezer today. By the end if the day we should have enough home made frozen meals to last us a good ten days <smug>

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 11:15:47

Mother - swimming isn't lame at all. Is apparently very good for you, plus I think any exercise has got to be a good thing!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 12:00:46

Purple how very dare you not be in labour!

Brave I agree cuddling a little baby a big belly combo is practically impossible!

Mother is your baby currently breech then? Mine was until 32 weeks and that feeling that a foot is about to break through your cervix is horrible! And swimming is a great exercise. I was swimming and doing Aqua-natal until my SPD got a bit too painful but it was really enjoyable while I could still do it.

Janey well done you! I considered batch cooking briefly and concluded that I will stay alive on DH's cooking and sandwiches when he's not around. I hate cooking at the best of times.

Sod's law didn't work for me at Saturday's wedding. DH asked how many drinks he should have and I told him to go for it in the hope that I would go into labour while he was plastered. I have also stopped shaving my legs for the same reason. Maybe when I am really overdue and fed up I will stop washing as well. grin

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 12:05:09

Janey that's a good tip! I fessed up to my tired arm on the way home and DP reassured me that it's actually a lot easier when it's your own - I suspect it's partly down to the fear of dropping him/getting it wrong that you're a lot more tense.

Was quite funny though as managed to rest him across my bump - which BabyBear thought was a fair cue to start kicking its soon-to-be playmate! Fortunately, the baby didn't seem too bothered by this!

Am impressed at batch cooking - I don't think we could even hold that many meals in our freezer!

Sooo supermarket didn't work Hazle what about a nice long train journey? Or a visit to a furniture retailer that sells lots of white sofas...?

Swimming is a good idea Mother - am hoping to do a bit once I finish work (two weeks and counting).

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 12:08:57

Lol Cavort that's hilarious! Wouldn't work for me alas - have already practically stopped as my leg hairs have almost stopped growing all by themselves and can go two weeks without needing to shave them (this is miraculous, I'm usually a hedgehog by day two).

I know Cavort, I'm not only letting myself down, I'm letting ALL of you down, I'm disappointed in myself grin
Sweep number 3 in half an hour <sigh> so fingers crossed...again. Trying to invoke the law of sod, OH has got a customer's car in pieces today and needs to be around to put it back together again so me going into labour would be really inconvenient <clutching at straws>

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 12:13:52

Yes Purple, fingers but not legs crossed. grin Come on babyMonster!!!

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 12:17:47

Yep Cavort the little beast is breech, the foot is getting rather persistent and feels like he is tap dancing, especially after I've eaten. As I'm typing he is giving me a few hefty kicks.

I have quite a strong right arm from holding onto a pulling mutt when dog walking so I'm fine for a while, the left arm however is feeble so I'm in trouble when I swap arms.

How about sitting on the washing machine while it spins Hazel....could be fun and might work (in more ways than one) wink

Nice work Janey, I plan on doing some batch cooking too, we have a freezer in the shed so I'm hoping to gradually build up the reserves, I need to buy lots of tupperware first though! I was thinking of just cooking twice as much spag bol, chilli, casserole etc over a couple of months so ideally we have enough for at least a week or 2. Other wise my OH will have us living on takeaway pizza!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 12:22:18

Mother mine always used to wait until I was talking to someone important at work and would then start trying to force her foot through my cervix while I had to try my best not to wince.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 12:23:27

That's exactly what I do mother. Every time I've made a meal I've made double and frozen one, so got lots of chicken pies, bolognese and chicken tagine in the freezer.

Good luck purple - really really hope it works this time!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 12:25:15

I am so glad Kim and Kanye have given their baby an unfortunate name. I keep getting asked if we have a name yet (have refused to tell anyone in RL) so I now say that we had decided on North and are having to have a rethink. grin

Well I'm doing my best, cervix has gone from 1cm on fri to over 2cm today and thinned out but mini monster's head is still merrily wiggling about all over the place not helping things so it doesn't seem like she's in a hurry to move so direct your impatience at her!

For those who like the gory details: this sweep made me wince slightly but still wasn't too horrid and midwife had a good two fingered, ouch poke which resulted in bleeding which is apparently a good thing. Off to walk up and down the stairs as many times as my hips will allow to try to bounce this babies head into the right place.

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 13:59:13

I really really thought that was a wind up but internet says it's true so it must be. Thing is, I quite like the name... (for a boy)... but with a surname like West? Get real!

Go Purple's cervix <possibly the weirdest thing I've ever typed...>

Hope the sweep and stairs combo gets things going a bit for you.

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 14:15:47

FX Purple!!!

Odd questions, but does anyone else hate their new enlarged boobs? I just think mine are so ugly now, I'm up to a 36E and the are just so heavy and look yucky. My OH tells me they are awesome but I just don't like the size, shape or odd coloured nips. By the way the only reason I am mentioning this is because I had the misfortune of going bikini shopping at lunchtime. Got one full bikini and 2 new bikini tops which should coordinate with bottoms I already have, I will be feeling in no way like I am blooming when laying around the pool, I currently imagine I will feel like a walrus! Or an elephant seal sunning itself on a rock? God I'm a grouchy bitch today. Sorry.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 14:34:25

Mother, I hate my new boobs. They weren't small to begin with (34E) and are enormous now! My nipples are a funny colour and bigger (sorry if tmi) and my DP isn't even a boobs man, and I'd put a lot of money on the fact he preferred then before (and even then would have been happy if they were smaller).

I do console myself by reminding myself this is what they're made for if mine ever start working but I still bloody hate them hmm

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 14:36:03

Oh and purple - isn't 2cm really good? I'm sure I've seen episodes of OBEM where women have been in labour for hours to only get to 2cm? Really hoping it's a good sign for you!

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 14:41:50

Thank god I'm not alone Janey, yep my nips are a darker colour now with a distinct dark line around them, not nice. Plus as you say the are far bigger than they once were, feel like I've got saucer nips! blush Does not make me want to get them out for my OH! Plus they are big enough to actually be a barrier between us now. confused
I'm wishing for my 34c/d's, at least they were manageable! Once these go down I think I am going to be left with big saggy nan boobs. Sorry, really am a grump today.

Yeah I agree Purple, 2cm is really good! Here's hoping it is the start of something! grin

My boobs are still small but just horrid and veiny now, doesn't seem fair. I wouldn't have minded them getting bigger!

FYI, if you have a sweep and they tell you 'not to worry if you bleed a bit' it turns out 'bit' is equivalent to things hurting 'a bit' and actually means quite a lot hmm better be worth it!

P.s I love the fact that my cervix has a fan base cheering it on grin

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 14:52:23

I think your cervix is fab - am impressed with 2cm!

Hope the bleeding stops soon. Although I think we're all about to have the period to end all periods. Gosh, so much to look forward to.

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 14:52:29

everybody is driving me nuts now. Is the baby here yet, is the baby here yet - I fecking told them I will let them know if he is, therefore if I have not, it means he is not here. Honestly, is it so difficult to understand? angry
Are you getting the same or is it just my friends, relatives and colleagues?

How's it going Hazle? Is the baby here yet? grin
Nobody has bothered me yet but then I'm not actually due until next Tuesday. I can imagine it would drive you mad though!

Cavort Mon 24-Jun-13 15:59:38

Hazle I'm not really being pestered for news, but I think that's because 1) I am not overdue yet, and 2) I have spent the last few months telling everyone how annoying it will be if they keep asking all the time so now nobody dares ask. Either that or nobody actually cares, it's one or the other. grin Can't you just tell them all to fuck off and leave you alone? I'm sure that would sort it. grin

Mother my boobs have only recently grown so I'm still quite liking the novelty value of them at the moment, although I'm not too keen on their new shape and the fact that they seem to have big blue veins close to the surface... they still don't look like Kelly Brook's boobs. sad angry My actual nipples have got bigger but the areola hasn't, it's just gone brown. I just hope they work when they are called upon to perform. And if you think your bigger boobs are a barrier between you and your OH, just wait until your space-hopper belly overtakes them!

Purple, by the time my Sister had got to 2cm she had been in painful latent labour for 2 days, contracting every 8 minutes and hadn't slept. 2cm pain-free is an achievement! Although I still demand more - your cervix needs some kind of ball-bouncing hip-rotating boot camp! Although I am doing this and it isn't bloody working.

MotherOfCleo Mon 24-Jun-13 16:16:34

Fair point cavort, yeah mine don't look like Kelly Brookes either, what's that about huh? wink

Do we think Purple is leading the pack then? Come on baby purple, get your head in the game literally grin

Frogcatcher Mon 24-Jun-13 16:17:16

Go purple cervix go purple cervix ra ra ra!

And hazle cervix too as it has some catching up to do.

My boobs have gone from 32C to 32D so far. I'd quite like maybe a 32E so I'll take some of yours mother. Is this likely or has all growth happened now until I get closer to actual breastfeeding?

BraveLilBear Mon 24-Jun-13 16:35:11

All bets are off re boobage Frog mine are a lot bigger than they were, but no idea what size right now as waiting til payday to get measured for a new bra (and now think there's probably not much point). But mine have gone from 30DD to 32D (maternity) and the 32D is definitely too small.

Fortunately, they've stopped growing for now. Have found the cure to leaky boobs btw - wear an old sports bra in bed. DP requested this after getting leaked on one night, and seemingly no leakage since! They do still work on demand though can't help myself

Had an interesting tip from antenatal class last week - they said not to get measured for nursing bra at 38 weeks as is often recommended. They said it's too unpredictable and you can spend a fortune only for them not to fit. They said to invest in a couple of those magic stretchy bras as they give enough support to get you through until the milk comes in, when you can get out and have a proper fitting.

Not sure if I buy this or not (and whether I'll be willing to flash my heavily swollen norks to a stranger 3 days postpartum) but an interesting tip nonetheless...

Well who knew? Finally something pregnancy related I'm good at? Wonders will never cease! <joins purple's cervix cheer leading squad>

...although I'm still not actually in labour so let's not get carried away...

HazleNutt Mon 24-Jun-13 16:52:02

Well there is something I'd like to do tomorrow - the airline next door to my office is selling their tax-free stuff really cheap, like a third of the retail price, and they only have this sale twice per year. Therefore there could be a chance that BabyNutt decides to ruin this for me.

As for boobs, mine actually look small now, compared to the belly. And I'm a G-cup at the moment. Perspective is everything.

janey1234 Mon 24-Jun-13 17:37:36

So I haven't had any nesting feelings at all. But today have been cooking up a storm. As well as making enough beef ragu to feed a small army, I've just knocked up a batch of 24 scones. Heaven only knows why I made so many. Might have three one now with some strawberry jam as a nice little afternoon treat.

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 07:34:59

Just in case somebody is wondering - no, still have not had the baby yet. 40+4.

janey1234 Tue 25-Jun-13 07:44:27

Oh hazle, I'm sorry hmm

Maybe today is your day, with that sale and everything? Fingers crossed for you.

MotherOfCleo Tue 25-Jun-13 09:10:41

Oh Hazel, feel for you! Hope baby nut appears soon!

I've not started nesting yet, I've also managed to control my OCD tenancies too. The babies room is currently a shit tip, we need to decorate, get new carpet, new furniture etc but neither of us show any signs of doing anything.....oops. At least it is clear of all my OHs gaming rubbish so we have a blank canvass, now just to put the plan into action! Normally all of this would panic me, but every day I walk past this messy messy room and it doesn't even cross my mind. I figure we will think about it once we are back from holiday.....perhaps. wink

Morning all, just signing the 'haven't had a baby yet' register.

Mother, if it makes you feel any better, I'm STILL living in the middle of a building site with a not even nearly finished attic conversion meaning I'm missing thing like actual walls and ceilings in my house! Your nursery decorating will be a doddle (and actually finished by the time baby arrives unlike the shit tip I'm living in) and if the baby is going to be in your room at first you've got ages to do it - well this is what I'm clinging to anyway grin

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 10:23:15

went to the sale, still nothing. Got some nice stuff though.

Now what would be the most embarrassing and inconvenient place for the labour to start? I might just try that.

janey1234 Tue 25-Jun-13 10:23:49

Oh purple you poor thing. Ours is nearly finished now - we're at the point of wallpapering and painting now. Has cost us a small fortune mind, so maybe you've got the right idea despite how chaotic it is.

Oh, and I say "we're" wallpapering. Clearly I'm not. My lovely dad is currently whilst I sit on the sofa watching crap TV

MotherOfCleo Tue 25-Jun-13 10:39:20

Purple I feel for you, my OCD would not do well with those surroundings. Baby will indeed be in with us to start with but I want the room to be ready before too, just to add a bit of extra pressure. Hope yours is all finished soon.

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 10:57:18

Damn all you stubborn Elderberry babies!! I can't believe there's nothing so far... nada mucous plugs... zero waters breaking... no contractions... just impatience and misery all round. Surely something has to happen soon? angry

Bugger-all happening here also. I have just been uphill speed-walking with the dog this morning, even though I'm knackered and my SPD hurts. I have to wait in this afternoon for shopping delivery and Dial-a-Dog-Wash so I am going to unpack my hospital bags in the hope that labour will start while everything is everywhere. <takes another sip of rasberry leaf tea>

Well my attic isn't going to be finished any time soon, OH hasn't done anything to it in weeks and he's just phoned me to say he thinks he's broken his finger at work hmm being the tough guy he is, I've taken him some co-codamol and he's getting on with it and refusing to get it checked, silly sod, so I'm guessing heavy duty DIY isn't going to top his priority list.

Re: these mucous plug jobbies does anyone know what they're actually supposed to look like? Because if they look like a giant mutant blood clot, I lost mine yesterday but I google images it (stupidly, yuck) and Dr Google didn't seem to think so - enlighten me oh wise ones!

MotherOfCleo Tue 25-Jun-13 11:40:19

I googled it too purple, wish I hadn't yuck. Some of them do look like blood clots though so perhaps that is what it was?

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 11:41:50

I obviously haven't got a clue first-hand, but I've heard they're a bit like clearish jelly with streaks of blood. Some women lose theirs weeks before labour starts so I don't think it's necessarily a sign of imminent labour.

MotherOfCleo Tue 25-Jun-13 11:43:29

Oh and re injured OHs, mine came back from his mates 3 day stag do which he went on this weekend with a sprained knee....again! He has weak knees and this is like the fourth or fifth time he has sprained one or both of them, it is so annoying as he now takes ages on the stairs so I can't ask him to nip up for anything, plus all dog walking duties fall on my shoulders. Oh the joys. He's not being to dramatic about it thankfully, think he knows I am well and truly sick of his damn weak knees!

Hmm dunno, like you say, they all seemed to be yellowy mucusy yuck according to google but this was a properly revolting massive 2 inch round dark red blood clot so possibly completely unrelated. Sorry, I do seem to be lowering the tone with gross things this week! It's not glamorous this pregnancy lark!

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 11:48:21

Purple I think the plug can come away in bits so maybe the clot was just part of it and the rest will follow?

Ah well, time will tell <and it better be by Friday> I'm still waiting for this glorious burst of nesting energy which miraculously turns me into a cooking, cleaning domestic goddess. I keep looking at the kitchen cupboards and thinking I should clean them then I go and lie on the sofa instead. I just can't be bothered to do ANYTHING.

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 11:58:32

I lost some pieces of mucous plug some weeks ago, I think. Look and texture like Haribo gummy bears, the white ones.

No nesting happening here either, day mostly consists of laying on the sofa, eating and occasionally glancing at work Blackberry and muttering that "oh for fuck's sake can't you people do anything yourself.."

janey1234 Tue 25-Jun-13 12:06:36

No nesting here really. I am cooking again, but to be fair it's my favourite 'hobby' of choice, plus I'm bloody greedy and can't stand the thought of eating sarnies for the next fortnight.

A friend had a baby at 4am this morning. No need to discuss the labour but in her text she said that every single second of it (let's just say it wasn't short) was immediately worth it the second she met her son. She's not a soppy type AT ALL so it really must be worth it or she's riddled with hormones and not thinking straight wink

janey1234 Tue 25-Jun-13 12:07:08

Oh and hazle, I now think I've eaten my last ever gummy bear winkgrin

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 12:18:47

sorry grin

See, I knew one of you would know!

Janey, you might enjoy cooking but it still counts as nesting/domestic goddessness so you can't join my lazy loafing in the sofa club as you're doing something productive with your time, whereas I'm sighing about being bored then still wandering aimlessly around the house doing nothing and eating all the crap snacks I bought to take to hospital.

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 13:21:38

I have unpacked my bags, put some necessary bits in the wash to freshen them up and haven't had a shower yet today, so right about now would be an inconvenient time to have the baby. <looks at watch and drums fingers on table>

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 13:40:37

Haven't had a shower and a bit sweaty from dog walk. Don't have snacks for hospital. DH has not packed anything (change of clothes etc) for himself. Wanted to dye my eyelashes and eyebrows (look like a rabbit without make up), but cba. Car almost out of petrol.
That should be inconvenient enough?

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 13:58:37

Yeah I think we both must have it in the bag now Hazle. wink

I wandered around the supermarket for an hour yesterday and that didn't work. Perhaps I should dye my hair? I mean your waters breaking when you're covered in hair dye would be massively inconvenient wouldn't it?

HazleNutt Tue 25-Jun-13 14:37:04

Hm might not be enough - early labour usually takes ages and you would have time to wash it off. Even though the half-developed colour could be interesting.

Should send DH out for a long drive somewhere without network coverage maybe? That should work in my case, as I'm still quite helpless in french.

True and it doesn't have the necessary embarrassment factor that being out in public provides. Maybe I should book into a salon and get a professional to do it, that would be much more humiliating.

Do you think we're all getting a bit obsessed? Perhaps we need some of the berries who aren't giant desperate baby evictors to come and slap some sense into us?

Frogcatcher Tue 25-Jun-13 19:59:52

<collective slap of overdue & imminent berries>

Annoyed with people saying it will come when it's ready yet?! wink

Had another scan today & a v wriggly bubs there. [Grin] Dated 11+5 but I know I can't be more than 11+1! Still waiting for a date for my NHS scan but sonographer said that the nuchal fold looked fine though she wouldn't measure it in case I got a different measurement later.

Yay! Congrats on a nice scan Frog, it's a really magical thing watching them wriggle about isn't it!

Frogcatcher Tue 25-Jun-13 22:24:58

Yep I think I could have stayed all day & watched it. DP was just enthralled which was lovely tho he did ask whether I could feel it! He has so obviously not got beyond conception in his pg for men book where he was when I checked the other day!

janey1234 Tue 25-Jun-13 22:35:30

Aaah congrats frog. Having scans is such a treat, especially early on when you're not sick of being kicked in the ribs not as aware of the baby.

Right I'm hoping that tomorrow is a lucky day and I wake up to find that someone has gone into labour but not me just yet thanks

Cavort Tue 25-Jun-13 23:30:06

ME! ME! ME! Janey I wholeheartedly volunteer to be the one who goes into labour tomorrow. I desperately want to get this alien out be one of the 5% who have the baby on their due date!

Yay for wiggly baby Frog! grin It's such a relief that the nuchal fold looks ok as well isn't it? We had a private gender scan at 17 weeks as I was too impatient to wait and the Sonographer also did some of the checks that they do at 20 weeks, which really made me relax much more than I otherwise would have done on the run up to the anomaly scan.

I am seeing MW at 11.30 tomorrow so it's crunch time on the sweep decision. I hope I wake up feeling particularly brave. confused

Honestly cavort, if you do decide to have one I'm sure you'll be fine. I would elbow you out of the way to be the one who goes into labour tomorrow but it seems a bit churlish since you're actually due before me so you can have tomorrow and I'll have Thursday ok? grin

I think I must be pretty much the only berry that only had the two standard NHS scans, I'm very envious of everyone getting all these extra looks as nice scans are definitely the best bit of pregnancy!

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 07:06:08

And what a surprise - I'm still here.

SIL helpfully stated that I must wash the windows to induce labour. I rather believe that you simply get the nesting instinct and start scrubbing everything if labour is about to start anyway. But then again, the windows could use some cleaning, couldn't hurt..

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 07:13:22

Oh hazle hmm Sounds like the window cleaning can't do any harm?

Woke up at 5am with bad crap in my calf (ouchie) and think I scared DP a lot, as I woke him up shouting "ow ow ow ow ow". He sat bolt upright saying "what is it, what is it?" with a look of absolute panic on his face. Try it if you fancy a laugh wink

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 08:35:05

I'm starting to feel like a pregnant woman, got up 5 times to pee, a few times to change side (as I'm the size of the truck and shoulders start to hurt) and once to have Gaviscon for heartburn. Fun.

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 09:07:25

Ah, the joys.
Only two loo trips for me last night - excellent - although had to take magnesium trisilicate (nicer version if gaviscon) at 3am, 6am and just had another lot now. I am totally over heartburn.

So impressive that you've only just feeling preggers though hazle at what, 40+5?

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 09:11:55

Finally some baby action! Though not for any of you lot or me it would seem yet. sad I woke up to a picture of my friend's new baby who arrived at 1am weighing 8lb13oz. shock She was 41+4. I haven't spoken to her yet about how horrific labour and birth was but I was talking to her yesterday afternoon so I am guessing labour wasn't too long. She had a sweep on Monday afternoon and was told she was 1cm so I think this gives me the motivation to have one today.

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 09:12:57

Are you definitely having CS on Friday Janey?

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 09:13:16

yes, 40+5. Which really isn't terribly overdue, but I've still had enough of it.

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 09:14:15

I was 1 cm like a month ago envy
OK, window cleaning it is then..

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 09:20:23

I don't know cavort. I'm booked in for Friday apparently, but am seeing the consultant tomorrow for a final decision. Odd to be booked in before they've confirmed it?! But am hoping so, and the consultant said last time he had no issues with it and would do the same in my shoes. Bit worried that they won't have time to do all the Pre-op checks in time for fri but I guess they knew what they were doing when they booked me in...

There are eight of us in my NCT class, and now it looks like three of us will be having elcs. Me through choice (esp due to blood pressure) but two because their babies have suddenly turned from head down to transverse?! One really didn't want a cs but understands why she needs to. She's due on 13th July but going in today for elcs. Not much notice for her, bless. Very interested to hear how she gets on!

Aww, I absolutely HATE cleaning windows, do I have to? The bay window is a particularly disgusting mass of smeared doggy nose prints though so it does need doing...but then the dogs mess it up again within minutes and I lose the will!
I'm genuinely starting to give up on the idea of this baby turning up on its own, I'm going to end up being induced, it seems almost inevitable now.

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 10:09:29

hmm Purple

What's the plan now then? How long will they wait before induction?

Quodlibet Wed 26-Jun-13 10:11:42

Come on Berries! One of you has got to beat Janey to it before Friday. I say we want at least two Berry babies by the weekend. <slams fist on table authoritatively>

In other news I am pretty sure what I am feeling is regular movement now - or rather, I've had it several times over the past week or so and it's pretty distinct. I am of reasonably 'slight build' so it's possible I could be feeling things a little early (15+2 now). I can't wait til it gets more definite - the realisation that there's something in there is quite mindbending although I'm sure it stops being so amazing when you've got someone booting you in the ribs

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 10:25:06

Ah quod it is an amazing feeling isn't it smile Without doubt my best part of pregnancy. My favourite point was at about 25 weeks when the movements are really really strong, but the baby has loads of room to move around. My whole stomach would lurch from side to side -DP and I would just lie watching it, astounded. It is mind blowing.smile

Aww Quod that's so exciting! I could definitely feel movement by 16 weeks so don't doubt that you can feel little movements already, it's so nice when your DP can feel them too but you'll have to wait a few more weeks for that!

Janey - I'm seeing my consultant Friday morning and if baby isn't moving out on her own he'll book me for evictioninduction and i'll be given another sweep Friday too just in case but the stubborn little one doesn't seem bothered about moving as her head still isn't engaged.

I guess they will prob induce Monday or Tuesday? Due date is Tuesday and I know they don't want me to go over that and given that my cervix seems ok with the idea they've no reason not to induce so by this time next week I hopefully should have a baby but that still doesn't seem soon enough! It's really looking like you might win the race!

BraveLilBear Wed 26-Jun-13 11:55:45

Morning all <dashes in, breathless, for a belated slap for whingeing overdue berries wink >

Was incommunicado yesterday as off work with a cold and my internet at home was busted. Still feeling rough today, but have to had to haul myself in because I'm training some senior management types this arvo and my boss would panic if I wasn't here because she is incompetent

Yay to wiggly bean on scan frog and getting wiggly feelings on the inside quod - it is totally the most amazing feeling ever - even when you are getting booted in the ribs (honest)

I've started playing games with mine... Sometimes it'll stick its foot out of my side and I'll push on it. It moves away, then gently pushes back! tho could be coincidence

Other times, if I rest something warm on top of my bump, it'll push its bum up (towards the warmth) and stay there! It did this the other day when I was resting friends 3-week-old on my bump. Baby seemes surprisingly unbothered by this despite the fact he was getting booted in the back by his 'friend'!

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 12:05:38

Wow next weekend and beginning of week sounds busy! Would be fun to have at least some berry babies sharing a birthday.

MotherOfCleo Wed 26-Jun-13 12:25:13

Yep, fingers crossed we have a busy week next week with lots of new little faces!

I felt my little man the first time at 14 weeks, I was in a hot bath a felt him squirm, then a week or so later I ate my body weight in skittles and he was dancing around lots. He moves lots at the moment (21 weeks) but nothing big enough for my OH to feel yet, plus it all seems to be his feet, he is breech so all the movement is very low down. My OH can't wait to feel him move though. Fingers crossed he can feel it soon.

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 12:40:46

I think I was about 21-22 weeks when DP could feel movement - shouldn't be long! smile

Ha yes and after weeks of me saying 'can you feel that?' and OH saying 'no', the first time he did feel it I put his hand on my stomach and baby obliged by booting him really hard and he jumped like he'd been bitten! It was so funny. I'm ever so slightly envious of the berries that are in the sort of 12-20 something weeks bit, it really does seem to be the nicest, most exciting bit of pregnancy.

MotherOfCleo Wed 26-Jun-13 13:28:28

Oh exciting Janey, FX it happens soon! Haha Purple, hope the same thing happens to us that would be really funny smile

Frogcatcher Wed 26-Jun-13 13:39:30

Yes, can I stay at this stage till 40 weeks pls? I don't feel pg at all now that nausea & tiredness have gone except for the hideous indigestion I got from pepper sauce last night, boobs are bigger than stomach & clothes still fit.

I do want to start buying stuff though & feel a bit of a fraud in the shop without a bump!

Sounds like next week is d-day(s) then!

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 14:06:25

So.... sweep was uncomforable but fine. Cervix still fairly posterior but is effaced and 1cm dilated so heading in the right direction and she managed to get a finger in. Plug came away all over her hand, which looked like something from a horror film when she took it out. blush

BUT (and it was all going so well) baby's heart rate dropped immediately afterwards so MW sent me straight to MAU for a trace. Been hooked up for about 40 mins snd everything looks ok, but because MW observed low H/R they say I might have to give birth on the consultant unit instead, or they mught even suggest induction now. Just waiting for the Registrar to come speak to me.

And as birth trial runs go, this has been really helpful as DH is still not here, can't find a parking space and has not got any change for parking. Bloody men!! angry

MotherOfCleo Wed 26-Jun-13 14:18:55

Oh Cavort, thinking of you and hope all is ok!! Try not to kill your OH when he does arrive, bloody men! 1cm is a damn good start, hopefully all is good with bubs and everything moves along nicely from now on.

Frog I have a very low bump which makes me look a bit like a lard arse. Not how I imagined myself looking. Also not helped by the bosses daughter saying this morning, I saw you at the other end of the office and thought 'wow she's really let herself go', then dad reminded me that you were pregnant, oh thanks love, glad I look like the cookie monster. sad

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 14:32:48

Oh cavort, you poor thing. It's never simple is it?!

I put £8.70 in change in DP's car this morning for that very reason. He would never have thought of it!

So you may be induced today? Exciting - you might win the race! Thinking of you and really, really hope all goes smoothly for you. And I guess consultant unit not all bad as it does mean epidural on hand if need be... Good luck!x

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 14:41:32

Fx for you cavort

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 15:38:52

Thanks guys. I am back home again and FX everything is ok. smile I quite fancied a bit of stress when I woke up this morning, I find it really adds to my day. hmm grin

They were considering moving me to definite CLU but have agreed to just assess me when I turn up in labour, which means there's still a chance of having the MLU. I obviously want what's safest for baby but I feel more comfortable with the thought of the MLU if possible.

And DH is getting some change to put in his car. smile

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 15:40:43

Regarding the home induction project here, we have - very clean windows. We don't have - contractions. Unsurprisingly.

Frogcatcher Wed 26-Jun-13 16:22:16

Glad to hear all ok cavort even if it was stressful. I have started a Tupperware pot of silver already for hospital visits! My DP is in the police & I've asked if he can bring home an unmarked car with lights or at least a stick on light when we get to EDD. No one is going to argue with that driven fast or parked illegally!

Boo cleo I want one of those football up jumper ones pls. My mum cheerfully told me yesterday that even when I've lost any baby weight some of my clothes such as nice dresses with zips may not fit again as my ribs won't go back again. She's really looking forward to me being fatter than her & being able to borrow clothes I can't wear I think!

BraveLilBear Wed 26-Jun-13 16:44:02

Crikey Cavort what a drama. So glad bubs is okay though and that a lesson has been learned re car park change every cloud and all that

Fingers crossed you still get MLU - but CLU's aren't the end of the world either. I know I'm saying that because I don't have a choice, but really, people do have normal births there... even if the environment is not as nice.

Glad to hear your windows are shiny Hazle - what next... floors? Surely a shiny floor will guarantee gush of broken waters....??

That's mean Frog sad as it happens, I apparently have a football up jumper bump (tho the word beachball has been used) - at least I have so far. Apparently it's not just stretchmarks that come after 37 weeks, sometimes that's when puffy face and lard arse kicks in too hmm

Oh my gosh! I go out for a couple of hours to avoid cleaning my filthy windows and miss all the drama!

Glad you're ok Cavort, it sounds pretty stressful. Thinking back they didn't monitor the heartbeat after my sweeps though they did it first so it sounds like your midwife is a bit more thorough which is good.

I got on my Mum's scales today and despite everyone telling me I don't look pregnant from the back and that although I've got a big bump I'm still thin everywhere else I appear to have gained a whopping two and a half stone - what a porker! I am NOT looking forward to trying to lose all of that after the baby - I know some of it is baby, fluid, placenta etc but not two and a half stone! Eeek! I'm actually FAT!

BraveLilBear Wed 26-Jun-13 17:31:10

Purple - good for you! Actually that's a standard weight gain - not a porker at all. Plus you have an actual end date.

I've whacked on 2 stone already but could have up to 6 weeks to go. Dreading the final tally confused

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 17:52:51

Ditto purple. Annoyingly I had piled on a stone over the 12 months before getting pregnant too, so I've got three and a half stone to get to the weight if like to be - and a wedding dress to get at some point too. Big old fatty that I am.

The midwife however is always reassuring me that the weight gain if fine and very, very normal. She said last time I would have had to put on more than a stone more than I have before it even vaguely concerned her, and that my BMI is v healthy for my height. I of course don't believe her and just feel obese.

Glad you're home cavort and all seems fine. Fx the sweep does something now apart from just cause you stress!

Decided to try to have my first nap of mat leave this afternoon, as I was up at 5am this morning. I did sleep for an hour, but now I just feel dazed, confused and a bit sick - and more tired than beforehand. This sleeping when the baby does thing is going to take done getting used to!

janey1234 Wed 26-Jun-13 17:54:54

Cross post brave. Weirdly I haven't put on any weight at all for the last few weeks which is odd given I just sit at home all day eating now so you won't necessarily put on much more! I haven't put on even 1lb in the last five weeks.

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 20:23:04

Frog your ribs won't go back where? I didn't realise they moved? I might be wrong because I obviously haven't managed to expel baby yet, but I don't think mine have moved. Kicked to death, yes, but not moved.
And good idea about the Police car, although I wouldn't want unmarked, I would want the full monty riot van with lights and sirens shunting other motorists out of the way. grin

Brave it's not the thought of the CLU that bothers me, it's that if I end up there I will have to have constant monitoring to keep an eye on heart rate which means I will be mostly stuck in bed on my back, whereas if I am deemed low risk enough to be allowed to go to MLU I should be able to keep mobile which I would much prefer. I guess I will just have to see when I check into the baby hotel.

Ahh the weight gain <sighs> It's so hard to get your head around isn't it? Even though I know it's healthy and for the greater good I still hate seeing the scales going up and feeling like a whale. I haven't been on the scales for a few weeks and have been eating loads of crap, but last time I checked I had put about 26 pounds on so I wouldn't be surprised if that was about 30lbs now. I might be brave and get on the scales in the morning. I have been using this weight tracker to reassure myself that my gain is normal

I wouldn't say today has been particularly strenuous, but I got back from the hospital and passed out for 2 hours, and I still feel knackered now. I got a reasonably good nights sleep last night as well. I hope the sweep works but I think I am too tired to go into labour tonight! hmm

HazleNutt Wed 26-Jun-13 20:27:48

hmm that's another idea, get really tired so you're too knackered for labour, that might work..

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 20:33:29

I can't imagine you ever getting too knackered for labour Superwoman Hazle grin

Frogcatcher Wed 26-Jun-13 20:46:59

cavort my mum was v skinny & her ribs had to separate slightly & expand outwards a bit to fit baby in apparently. I'm also slim but I don't think I'm as thin as she was back then (think twiggy fashion I guess). I wore her wedding dress for fancy dress when I was a teenager & it was tight then!

Nope, forget being too tired, I've come up with the ultimate Sod's law plan...I've washed the covers from the car seat, they're sopping wet and can't be tumble dried <sits back smugly and waits for labour>

My midwife has never once mentioned my weight so I only checked out of interest, it just sounds like such a lot but then I reckon I'm carrying a few extra pounds just on my fat bloated feet!

Oh and Cavort - if you do need constant monitoring ask if they have wireless monitors, I would have thought they will if its a big hospital, that way you can still move around (this is exactly why I've transferred to a different hospital rather than going to my local one)

Cavort Wed 26-Jun-13 21:17:30

It's a big hospital and only a couple of years old Purple so hopefully they do have wireless monitors but I will definitely ask.

Good plan re car seat washing. FX it works! I wouldn't even know how to get the covers off ours, and it's still precariously wedged into a cupboard with the pram at the moment. blush

I am not holding out much hope of this sweep working... I haven't had so much as a period pain since and no bleeding apart from the horror that came away on MW's hand.

Yeah my car seat was second hand though and it only occurred to me today that I should maybe wash it, oops!

My sweep clearly didn't do anything either and I did bleed all bloody day after it. Starting to think that these babies only come out when they want to no matter what you do (unless you go for eviction via sunroof).

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 07:08:08

40+6. Nothing's happening, not even a twinge.

janey1234 Thu 27-Jun-13 08:04:37

hmm Hazle

I've got a consultant appt at 11am in which I find out if I'm having an elcs. Weird it's all happening so late - find out today, booked in for tomorrow.

Starting to feel very real and suddenly am overcome with jealousy over Alex, who's sunning herself in Marbella right now. Lucky cow wink

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 08:20:24

Well just called the hospital and they said that oh no, they probably won't induce tomorrow. Just have to show up for appointment and if everything is ok, will have a check up every other day.

I'm never having this baby, will be pregnant for 2 years like other elephants..

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 08:37:16

<logs in excitedly in anticipation of labour news>

NOTHING??? Bugger!

Nothing at all here either. angry Baby decided to try and make a bid for freedom through my bellybutton between midnight and 2am so I'm still quite tired but that's about it.

Ooo Janey how exciting that this time tomorrow you could be gowned up and heading for theatre! grin

I thought that yesterday about Alex but her time will come.... <evil cackle>

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 08:45:06

Apologies in advance for the Daily Fail link, but WTAF??

I was considering having a bath and that's about it!

Oh ffs, that's ridiculous! Not only that, it wouldn't even work for me, I could have all the beauty treatments in the world (not that I would, not my thing) and know that within minutes of any sort of exertion (let alone hours of labour) I'd have a bright red blotchy face and mad frizzy hair - these must be those women who come out of the gym looking serene and groomed rather than a sweaty mess, they're clearly robots.

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 09:22:13

Hm I could actually go get some beauty treatments I guess...not that they would make much of a difference, like planting flowers around a nuclear plant, but just because I'm so bored. I have no idea how those women manage who stop working months before due date.

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 09:31:08

I couldn't wait to finish work but it is boring isn't it? I can't wait until I have a baby filling up my time.

I am going to drag the dog up big hills this morning and then I am going to spend this afternoon cuddling my friend's newborn and getting details of the birth.

I think my DH may be having some kind of pre-baby stress crisis... he's usually up and out about 7.15 but he's turned off his alarm this morning and is still in bed, despite spending most of last night telling me how busy he is and how there aren't enough hours in the day. confused This is very unlike him. confused confused

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 10:14:48

I see your point about the CLU = monitoring, I hadn't thought of that babybrain

Enjoying the Operation Eviction commentaries - it really is a race! I bet you all three turn up with babes in arms within half an hour of each other grin

FX for your consultant app Janey You nervous? or excited?

Had another weird dream last night/this morning - I was at my mum's house, DP nowhere near, and suddenly felt a head 'down there' so decided to push, with the help of a metal shoehorn (!). Produced baby in a matter of minutes with no pain, and it was a girl with brown eyes (a bit like Dora the Explorer) - but despite being distinctly human (she needed rubbing on her back to make her breathe) she then turned into a weird doll, so I wrapped her up and put her in a box with a cellophane front (plus small airgap) to keep her warm.

So weird.

Quodlibet Thu 27-Jun-13 11:09:34

Ew that DM article is grim! The woman in the first pic doesn't look like she's been anywhere near a birth - I think it looks scarily like she has stolen a newborn.

I have realised here that despite no bump yet, my abdominals have already separated and I've got a weird bulge down the middle of my (not very visible) six-pack when I lean backwards sad. Not good news for either vanity or back-problem related reasons so I have been googling 'Tupler technique' and have booked a preventive appointment with my osteo for next week.

Do you think these babies are hanging on until we've all had our makeovers done then? Because I could be in for a long wait, it will be a cold day in hell when I willingly let someone Oompa Loompa me.

Right, I refuse to sit around the house bored and weeping and wailing about my back (which incidentally is getting so bad I keep eyeing up the carving knives in the kitchen and wondering if a DIY section would make the pain go away) so I'm going swimming with my friend and her toddler then off to a lovely local deli for lunch. I thought feck it and bunged the do not tumble dry car seat bits in the drier on cool - I'm totally past caring if the damn things melt <rebel>

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 11:51:39

not planning to get tangoed, but have actually booked an appointment to get lashes and eyebrows tinted - they are blonde, I look like a rabbit without makeup. took one of the cats to vet for vaccinations, will take the dogs for a long walk and..then can't think of anything else to do. Still not even a hint of any kind of signs that anything might be happening any time soon..

janey how did it go? Are you having a baby tomorrow?

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 13:04:13

Just read that link. Feel mildly depressed by it! How on earth are we ever going to educate the manfolk on this planet that we are not here simply to look good for them?!

I am planning to get my hair nicely coloured and cut once I go on mat leave, one as a preventative measure as won't get a chance for months afterwards, and two as I'll finally have the cash to splash out on a professional colour after eons of tight budgeting tho should really buy more baby stuff

But that's about the maximum I can justify! Would love a wax but don't think I can get a bikini line done again after my abscess experience (not caused by waxing, but waxing makes them more likely)


What news Janey??

Frogcatcher Thu 27-Jun-13 13:24:47

Ugh makes me hate the DM even more! Makes me feel better that I'm refusing all photos till I've been passed a hairbrush & mineral powder tho!

Desperately need some waxing now let alone later but go on hols on 20th so am trying to hold on! It's so hard being a woman even without being pg!

Come on berry babies. Can't you hear that your mummies aren't doing makeovers so you might as well come out now?!

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 13:28:30

I take all my smugness back about not being pestered. Now I am officially overdue I seem to have the world and their dog asking if I'm having any signs. angry

I have just been reading that you can laugh yourself into labour so need to find something funny to watch. I might wax DH's chest tonight ready for skin to skin, that might just do it. grin

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 13:39:58

Why would you wax for skin-to-skin?! (Or are you just taking revenge for all the pregnancy angst you've been through) - surely the hormones would still work with hair there, may even be better with hair there so they get trapped and 'linger'!

Am very keen for DP to have skin-to-skin but there's no way I'd suggest he waxed I love his chest the way it is!

The 40-year-old virgin once had me in tears on a flight from Oz, and can thoroughly recommend 'tucker and dale vs evil' if you don't mind a bit of gore. Honestly the most surprisingly hilarious film me and DP have ever watched!

Or could just go for tickling grin

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 14:02:22

Janey should be back by now, do you think they just booked her in for a CS immediately?

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 14:05:29

DH hasn't got a particularly hairy chest, but what he has got feels quite wiry when I put my head on it so I don't want it giving baby a prickly rash, and yes there is an element of my wanting him to suffer a bit after my 40 weeks of unpleasantness I am a cow. I have waxed him before and it's definitely good for a laugh so I will tell him he's helping the baby along. grin

Any news Janey?

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 14:06:33

Yeah that's a thought, maybe she's in hospital cuddling her new baby. envy envy envy

janey1234 Thu 27-Jun-13 14:48:35

Sorry, nothing that exciting, back home after a staggering four hours in hospital (most of it waiting to see various people, rather than actually being seen).

So elcs was approved on maternal request alone and is going ahead tomorrow. I asked if I should be worried it was before 39 weeks as I'd heard that was best for baby's breathing, and they said good point, and sent me for a steroid injection. Glad i asked! Have to go back for another at midnight tonight <convenient>. Then as I was leaving they said they wanted to just check baby's heartbeat, and the consultant used a small ultrasound to do it rather than a Doppler. Anyway turns out baby is breech!! So I would have had to have a cs anyway - elcs if anyone had noticed, or I guess emcs after hours of failed labour if they hadn't. Anyway feel weirdly happy that it's out of my hands now as I kept wondering if I was doing the right thing or not. Now I don't have a choice (she didn't even suggest ecv and I would refuse it anyway).

Have to be in at 7am tomorrow, elcs start from 9am onwards but obv emcs take priority. But hopefully this time tomorrow I will have met him/her - eeek!!

Feeling very guilty for constantly moaning over the last week about baby's feet killing my right ribs, and pushing them back in - was actually the baby's head I was trying to shove out of the way!! blushblush

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 15:01:16

Wow Janey how exciting! And what a relief that everything is as it should be and that you definitely made the right decision. Really wouldn't feel guilty about the feet/faceplant thing - I would totally have done the same grin

How are you feeling about it all? Excited for you! grin

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 15:02:39

Janey how exciting!! It's all really happening isn't it? And how strange nobody has noticed breech until now. Have they been feeling baby's position at checks or not bothering due to probable elcs?

I really hope you're not too out of it tomorrow to get on MN and tell us the crucial info! <selfish and nosey>

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 15:05:37

And I am sooo jealous that your pregnancy misery is about to come to an end. envy <wonders if it's too late to ask for elcs>

janey1234 Thu 27-Jun-13 15:07:24

No they have been - said I was 4/5 engaged last time. So it's either moved or they just got it wrong - guess bums and heads feel similar? Mind you at 35 week scan was def head down.

Feeling strangely calm. Just doesn't feel real. Also bit guilty for jumping the queue - I feel uncomfortable enough at 38+2 let alone at a week overdue <sorry hazle hmm> I'm hoping that somehow my new arrival triggers a load more?!

janey1234 Thu 27-Jun-13 15:08:44

Oh and Alex just sent me a text. She's lying by the pool whilst her DH makes her lunch, then going to a lovely restaurant in the mountains she took me to once before. Very bloody jealous!

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 15:40:44

Me three for holiday jealousy, not helped by emails from the holiday company we booked with this time last year, plus my mum texting me from Glastonbury (our holiday of two years ago - in the mud) and my sis Facebooking pictures of how amazing the weather is!

Heads and bums do feel similar, tho apparently mine has 'a very hard head' according to one midwife who seemed rather tickled by this. Have now realised of course that it could be a bony bum like it's pre-pregnant mother so who knows grin fingers crossed 'a very hard head' isn't sadistic code for 'ouch that's going to hurt on the way out! hmm

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 16:10:14

very envy
and of course now worried mine is in breech too. there's something quite round under my ribs that I've thought is a butt, but not sure now. well guess they'll check tomorrow.

Oh how exciting Janey, it must be so strange knowing you're having a baby tomorrow for definite!
Now who fancies going into labour tonight/in the morning and giving her a race? wink

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 17:05:25

Me! I have booked cinema tickets for tonight - the most expensive VIP seats like armchairs ones in the hope it starts labour off. No signs so far but I have had a definite increase in cervical stabbing pains which I am hoping is further dilation. <hopes for waters breaking embarrassingly all over VIP cinema seats>

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 17:09:43

Ooh good plan Cavort - which film?

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 17:13:15

Man of Steel - please don't tell me it's crap if you've seen it! DH wants to see it and keeps going on about how it might be our last chance for a while. I wish! I will be partaking of the biggest ice cream they sell at the Ben & Jerrys Bar smile

BraveLilBear Thu 27-Jun-13 17:21:27

If you don't enjoy it, take comfort in the fact that Henry Cavill is pretty damn hot... I enjoyed it, but it could have done with being half an hour shorter. Won't say more than that til you've seen it, but defo a good plan with the VIP seats (me and DP were both sooo uncomfy we could hardly sit still)!

And a large B&J makes everything worth seeing grin

I'm counting down to Despicable Me 2 as I loved the first. Tomorrow, weeee!

...how can I trump a cinema trip so it's me...nope I got nothing, I played my ace last night with the car seat moment if genius thing and even that didn't bloody work. Off you go Cavort and leave their VIP seat in need of some serious cleaning grin

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 19:13:54

eating pineapple and googling reflexology to induce labour. Sigh.

MotherOfCleo Thu 27-Jun-13 19:24:27

my god Im in a bad mood. sad I got home only to find that OH had left a bag of plumbing spares, (pipe connectors etc) in the lounge which the dog had emptied everywhere, told him, only for him to get annoyed at the dog. Whereas is he had fed or walker her she wouldnt have had time to fet bored and be naughty. Then he says hes been waiting for me as we have to go to halfords to look at car radios, which we neither need (nor do I want to waste 80 quid on). All the while Im trying to arrange how I get to and from the coach which is takeing me and a mate to saturdays robbie williams gig, he was taking me but now cant as he is out on the lash (priorities you see). Get back and have to bully him into taking dog for a walk, while I make a cake for a woman at work whos bday I forgot (she bakes for everyone else so I felt I should make the effort). He finally goes out an says he'd put the dinner in the over before leaving, comes back saying the dog slipped her lead and ran into the main road, again, dogs fault, nothing mentioned about the fact eveytime anyone else walks her she wears her harness not just her collar....for that very reason! Check on dinner to dicover he put sausages an bacon in together, bacon is burnt beyond belief and nothing else is cooking, what on earth does he think we are eating? Grrrr so much for a relaxed evening. sad I know Im hormonal but god he is useless at times! sad angry

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 19:28:20

Wow mother is he actually trying to piss you off? Good job in this case.

Have fun at Robbie, I went to the gig in O2 arena, was great.

Gawd he sounds as useless as mine, no wonder you're cross with him Mother!

MotherOfCleo Thu 27-Jun-13 19:52:53

Afraid not Purple, this is just him being his usual self.

Im now slightly calmer but god he is such a usless child. What worries me is he finds is hard to cope with a fairly low maintenance dog, how will he cope with a high maintenance baby?

MotherOfCleo Thu 27-Jun-13 19:53:28

sorry that should have said afraid not hazel.....doh. wink

MotherOfCleo Thu 27-Jun-13 20:14:44

Oh and I should mention his idea of a dog walk is taking her around the block, that takes about 5 minutes (10 at a push) when I walk her we are out for 30-45 minutes, then he wonders why she is still energetic. Men huh, cant live with them cant legally kill them.sad

HazleNutt Thu 27-Jun-13 20:40:27

Now my mouth hurts from all the pineapple..

Mother, it all sounds depressingly familiar, mine left his shoes in the kitchen again this week, his dog ate them... Again. He NEVER LEARNS! I worry about his capability to look after a baby as well since he appears to be totally incompetent at so many basic tasks. It's worrying.

Hazle, I wimped on the pineapple for that very reason, makes my mouth all sore like I'm allergic to them and they reckon you need to eat 7 whole ones to make any difference anyway so I haven't got that desperate yet.

Cavort Thu 27-Jun-13 23:02:22

No joy at cinema starting labour. angry

Brave you are right about the Superman bloke - ding dong! Now I wouldn't mind waxing his chest!

Enjoy the gig Mother. envy I wish I wasn't far too pregnant to go to a Robbie Williams gig, or any gig for that matter. I haven't met many slebs but I did meet Robbie Williams years ago and he seemed like a thoroughly nice bloke and it seems like he always puts on a good show.

And there's nothing better than a good rant about men. They really are a different species sometimes. Mine is generally a good egg but I also do quite often find myself wondering why I am breeding with this man? He seems to keep all his common sense in his little finger smile

Frogcatcher Thu 27-Jun-13 23:17:30

Ugh mine has been a grumpy bugger all week as he's dog tired from night shifts but also ended up going in yesterday during the day too. So instead of being sensible & catching up with sleep tmrw he's getting a few hours then playing in a cricket tournament!
Bet he won't be that willing to be tired if I ask him to do night feeds...

Enjoy the gig mother. I saw one of the Take That reunion ones he played at a few years ago & it was great.

Oh & Henry Cavill you so would. He's not good for a pg lady's blood pressure.

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 08:28:27

Thinking of you today Janey. Can't wait to hear all about your little bundle xxx

Today's inconvenient labour attempt is brought to you by my idiot DH, who has gone an hour away to work in my car with my labour bag still in the boot, despite several reminders last night that he needed to take it out. No TENS for me if labour starts. confused

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 08:29:17

So the big day has arrived!
Just met the anaesthetist and consultant doing the c section (one I've met before who I loved) and hopefully will be taken down at about 10am. Still not nervous, just excited!!

Good luck to you other berries - really hoping things start happening for all you lot as well smile

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 08:32:09

I am sooo envy envy envy Janey but so pleased for you. Yes, bring it on for all of us! smile

Good luck Janey! I'm so excited for you x

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 08:47:52

Good luck and can you take the phone to the theatre and give us live updates?

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 08:54:20

Ha the worst thing is that I would if I could hazle! DP despairs of me and my mumsnet addiction blush

Will update when I can but am really hoping I start a barrage of arrivals, just as you started a run of BFP's hazle!

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 08:56:30

Oh and in my absence you might like to ask brave about her loved up placenta wink

Sorry brave - couldn't help myself!!

Quodlibet Fri 28-Jun-13 09:01:36

Good luck Janey!
So exciting - today's the first Berry baby. What shall we all do to celebrate?

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 09:03:55

Oooh we could all get smashed!


Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 09:07:30

Ha I also saw Brave's 'loved up' thread. grin

Janey my BIL took his mobile in to my Sis's CS. He did a sneaky video at the end when they took baby over to be cleaned up and weighed and the medical staff all had their backs turned. The video ends when one of them turns round and angrily shouts, "Turn that off!!"

Quod I think we should all get pissed to celebrate in our dreams. wine

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 09:08:46

Great minds cavort hmm

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 09:09:49

Can't you just tell I have been really fancying a wine grin

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 09:21:14

Ohhh so excited for you Janey! Can't wait to hear you're a mum grin

My day started as badly as the last one finished, I was doing the washing up with my OH didn't do last night, including the grill pan, only went and spilt all the fatty water down my work outfit so had to go and change, only problem is I had no other clean maternity trousers so I'm in non maternity trousers which are unbelievably uncomfortable, especially when sitting down. Not great when I work at a desk 8 hours a day! sad

Oh and he has also tidied the office which means my camera is not where I left and he has no idea where he put it. May have no camera for Robbie Williams....grrr. Cavort I am beyond jealous that you met him!!! Although to be honest I would have nothing sensible to say to him and would no doubt end up looking very silly if I met him face to face. I have a slight Robbie addiction, I saw him at knebworth, at a hyde park concert, at the Hero's Concert, at the Take That reunion and shall be seeing him tomorrow. I also have a thing for Take That who I've seen 3 or 4 times.

I need to snap out of this mood, I just feel sad and stressed all the time. sad I think I kind of hoped he would support me more but all he does is say I shouldn't worry about things and tell me I'm hormonal and annoying. 99% of the time I'm not he just uses it as an excuse. Last night he told me 'I' was annoying 'him' with my mood, he caused the bloody mood! Plus last time I asked my mum for help she told me I was hormonal and stupid. Not got many options left really. Sorry just having a pit party for one over here.

Lot's of berry babies would cheer me up. grin So get cracking girls

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 09:31:59

Aww Mother I am sorry your OH is still being an arse. It may well be the case that you are hormonal and extra-sensitive, but that is your prerogative when pg and as you have surrendered your body over to growing him a baby I think he needs to acknowledge this and start being a bit more considerate.

Camera or no camera, the Robbie gig should cheer you up. smile I stood next to him at a Sunday League football match and just talked bollocks made small talk. It was just before he left TT the first time so was absolutely ages ago and he was probably pissed/off his face.

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 09:51:10

Cheers Cavort, yeah I think I'm just expecting more of him.....stupidly. Should know better really. Just wish he would help round the house rather than spending the evenings playing on his iPad or kindle.

Ohhh, I rather liked him at that age, if I could meet him how he was in the 'everything changes' video that would be awesome, although actually I would be way too old for him...doh.

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 10:00:16

Dashing in with red cheeks from my loved up blunder to say good luck Janey! Was thinking of you this morning when I was getting up <random>

I'm also going down at 10... to a team meeting. Yawn. One week to go though!

Sorry to hear about DP being an arse Mother - I struggled with mine for a long while this pregnancy, but the bigger I got, the easier things got. They just don't realise how difficult it is, until they can see it.

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 10:11:47

Cheers Bear, on the plus side we ordered the nursery furniture last night. Less than half price from Argos.

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 10:13:56

So went to hospital as instructed for check up and they probably want to keep me here for monitoring overnight. Nothing serious but baby's heart rate went a bit low at some point. Boo. That's no fun. I could tolerate the hospital if I was in labour but to just hang here is no fun at all. Only 2 cm dilated so not like there is anything happening soon either.

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 10:20:33

Hope all ok hazle. 2cm is ok though? Let us know how you get on?

I'm still waiting - yawn

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 10:24:25

Was 1 cm a month ago so at this rate, I will have this baby in 2 years or so

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 10:41:30

Boo for hospital admission Hazle, but I am sure you are thinking the same as I was that it's better to get it checked out.

2cm dilated sounds like things are heading in the right direction. Have you any idea when they will consider inducing you if you draw a blank on spontaneous labour?

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 11:39:20

So it's nearly 11.40 and we now have two elderberries in hospital... fingers crossed all is ok Hazle and boredom doesn't send you doolally in the process (I sense this must be hell for you...)

Berry Baby love to all!

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 12:13:02

Nothing happening here, they will monitor a few more times in the afternoon and want to keep me here for the night. But if everything is fine I will insist on going home, can always come back early morning. No reason to stay if they aren't doing anything.
Yes, already going nuts of boredom, especially as I only came for check and didn't even take my kindle. Midwives are all very nice and friendly at least.

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 12:31:58

I am guessing the silence from Mum means baby Janey has probably arrived. smile

sad Hazle. I really hope they let you out for the night, it will be so nice to sleep in your own bed.

At the risk of sounding sad, did anyone else see Frankie from The Saturdays on This Morning? 4 months pregnant my arse, she must be having quads if she is only 4 months gone! And she has put a Kardashian amount of weight on what a bitch I am. Her footballer boyfriend will have to have all his door frames widened if she really has got until November before giving birth.

Sounds rubbish Hazle, hope they don't keep you there too long.

I'm afraid I made a bit of a tit of myself at my consultant appt this morning, after only getting an hours sleep due to being in constant screaming agony with my back and then waiting well over 45 minutes past my appointment time because they had lost my notes/forgotten me, the consultant asked how I was coping and I'm afraid I'm promptly burst I to tears blush

The upshot is they're getting this baby out of me ASAP, induction booked for Sunday 10.00am which was the first slot they had free.

Hope everyone else is doing ok, especially Hazle and Janey.

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 12:43:08

I knew it, first baby has started a waterfall effect! grin Please let this theory work on mine!

I am both over the moon and envy Purple, but I think you've had a rougher ride than most and deserve for it to come to an end pronto.

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 12:44:06

Gosh Purple poor you - but sometimes tears aren't a bad thing.

Exciting news though for Sunday!

And Hazle you went for a midwife appt with no Kindle? You have my sympathies... <shakes head at error>

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 12:48:10

How cool if baby Janey has indeed arrived! grin

Oh god, I just googled her and she is much bigger than me, if she is only 4 months I am the queen mother! Plus I see what you mean about the weight, someone has been eating for 2 I think.

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 12:50:15

I know, I know.. Usually iPhone is enough for just an appointment. DH will be back in a few hours either to bring stuff or hopefully go home.

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 12:54:20

WOW, cross post. Oops.

Geez Purple, hope you're ok. Exciting times ahead though! Heres to lots of berry babies arriving before next week! come on babies get a wriggle on!

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 12:56:10

Lol Hazle I learnt early on that Kindle was a must-have for all appts... Average wait for MW here is 30 minutes - even with a booked time!

FX DH comes up with the goods (first choice golden ticket home, second choice Kindle and other goodies)

Frogcatcher Fri 28-Jun-13 13:30:31

Ooh exciting times! Berry deliveries galore ahead!

I just googled Frankie too & OMG! No way is she only 4 months - if I'm suddenly going to pop to look like that in the next month then I'm going to have nothing to wear on holiday!

Well they would have been inducing me Tuesday anyway I think so it's only a couple of days early but every little helps at this stage. Just a bit concerned that If the pain doesn't ease off enough to let me sleep I'll be so knackered by then I can't push a baby out anyway. Shame I can't self medicate with wine, an alcohol induced mini coma would do me the world of good right now!

Just waiting for a student health visitor now who is coming to bombard me with bloody leaflets meet me. After that I'm hoping everyone will bugger off and leave me alone to writhe in pain in relative peace <grumpy>

So Janey will have taken first place and I'm racing Hazle and Cavort for second, come on babies!

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 14:01:46

On the one hand, I am fed up being pregnant and baby does not want to come naturally, it seems. But I would prefer to spend as much as possible of the early labour home and that would not happen if they induce. So at the moment I'm seriously grumpy and not thrilled with either option.

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 15:14:52

Quick update. Miles Harvey was born at 11.39 am. C section was absolutely fine. He was transverse breech so took a lot of wriggling to get out. All was going well but the his breathing became laboured and oxygen levels fell, so he's been taken to intensive care with DP and I'm waiting for my folks to come and cheer me up. Sick with worry obviously but am sure it's very common.

And for anyone who needs an epidural or spinal, it was easy and painless. So if you want one in labour, don't worry about that bit - was the easiest part of the whole thing!

flowers congratulations Janey! I'm so thrilled for you and I'm sure he'll be absolutely fine (though it's understandably worrying) and you'll be having lots of newborn snuggles soon.

Well done for producing the first Berry Baby! waits impatiently for a photo

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 15:38:28

Ahh HUGE congrats Janey!!! What a lovely name, bet little Miles Harvey is absolutely gorgeous! <joins the cue to ohh and ahh at a photo>

Hope the little man is all good and is back with his mummy soon.

flowers flowers flowers oh and lets not forget the wine wink

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 15:42:48

He's now had to be incubated and I can't be with him. Grrr this sucks!! So worried and missing the newborn snuggles hmm xx

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 15:56:21

Ahh poor little man and poor you, thinking of you Janey.

I'm sure once his oxygen levels come back up he will be fine. He is in the right place.

Sending get well thoughts to little Miles, feel better little man, mummy wants lots and lots of cuddles!

Frogcatcher Fri 28-Jun-13 16:07:00

Woo hoo congratulations janey! Welcome to the world Miles Harvey! As Purple says I'm sure he'll be out of IC & back with you in no time. I know a lot of people who's babies went there first & then were absolutely fine. Hope your RL support has kicked in now. flowers

Not that I'm trying to steal Janey's thunder or anything but...my waters just broke...and OH isn't answering his phone.

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 16:21:35

Massive congratulations Janey! Sending lots of love and flowers to you - you must be worried.

He'll be with you soon enough and til then, DP will be making sure he's not alone. Hope your folks come and cheer you up soon - but we're all sending hugs and happy thoughts in the meantime even though my DP thinks I talk to fake people

Welcome to the world Miles, and welcome to motherhood Janey grin

BTW... am I right in thinking Miles was a TeamGreen surprise? 1-0 to the boys if so!

Frogcatcher Fri 28-Jun-13 16:21:51

Eeeeek purple! I take it home birth was not on the plan? Answer the phone Mr Purple!

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 16:22:38

OMG Purple - total cross post!

Don't panic... you'll have loads of time to yell at reach him.

How are you feeling? Was it all clear? Exciting times!

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 16:30:35

Congats Janey, I'm sure baby will be with you for snuggles soon! And Purple don't panic, you don't need to rush to hospital straight away. What was it like, like in movies? No changes here, but everything is fine according to monitors.

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 16:37:21

Good news Hazle - I think... (the everything fine bit, rather than the no change bit) - was slightly worried that you'd gone a little quiet.

So by this time Monday, we'll have, what, maybe 3 Berry Babies? grin

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 16:53:08

whoop whoop, check out baby purple, all this talk of babies being born is obviously catching. Hope all goes smoothly for you purple!!!

Thanks everyone, well I can honestly say you wouldn't want your waters to go in public! It's is NOT glamorous. Sitting on the sofa with just a pair of pants and maternity pad on and towel wrapped around me like a nappy and every time I try to move get gushes of fluid.
It's pretty gross but not as gross as the dogs trying to lick it up when they first went and I was incapacitated sliding around on laminate flooring trying to stop them as I leaked everywhere

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 17:27:49

I am out visiting family and have sneaked a peek on my phone for news but I can't read and run with all this exciting stuff going on!

Huge congratulations Janey what wonderful news. I am so thrilled for you and your DP and what a great name! Not so great about the separation but hopefully he will be back with Mummy very soon. The HCP's really know their stuff and will sort him out in no time. thanks

And check you out Purple!! Woop, woop! Have contractions started yet? I hope you have managed to get hold of Mr Purple. My mate who gave birth this week waters broke at 7pm and she was holding her DS by 1am. FX for you and keep us posted if you are not in too much pain.

BraveLilBear Fri 28-Jun-13 17:28:28

Is it wrong to snigger at that image Purple? One must keep a sense of humour about these things, I always think grin

Least it wasn't on your shiny clean car seat covers! Any word from missing DP yet?

Do you know I was just about to start speculating about where you were Cavort - I'm a bit disappointed that you're not in labour I was feeling hopeful for you!

Got hold of Mr Purple, he was very casual about it all and is still at work, oh well, he's probably got a point, no pains yet (aside from the usual backache natch) so I think I could be sitting here dressed like a sumo wrestler for a while yet!

Janey - Keep us updated as and when you can, we're all rooting for the little guy to hurry up and be in Mummy's arms ASAP.

Laugh away Brave - it will be you on your hands and knees desperately trying to mop gloppy bodily fluids off your kitchen floor while you're still leaking more everywhere soon enough wink

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 17:48:02

How exciting purple! Got everything crossed it all kicks off soon - and is a lovely short labour!
Did smile a lot about your dogs - first smile for an hour or two so thank you!

Fwiw my DP thinks you're all men pretending to be knocked up women. Quite why anyone would do that (let's face it out chats are v pregnancy focused and not that exciting to anyone not knocked up!) I don't know confused

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 18:26:14

No such luck I'm afraid Purple sad Have you phoned your MW or MAU? What did they say? I thought they like you to go get checked after waters going even if there are no contractions?

Janey I can't believe your DP has rumbled me. Did my prosthetic bump give it away? wink

Nipping in to say congrats to Janey and good luck to purple

They said to phone again in the morning if nothing had happened by then Cavort.

I'm starting to think my rapidly deflating giant bump was all water and it's actually quite a small baby in there. Still leaking everywhere in quite significant quantities. They just don't cover how to cope with these things in ante natal classes so I've had to improvise. After soaking through maternity pad after maternity pad (buy more than you think! I'm seriously short now) have resorted to wearing a pair of OHs pants with an entire hand towel stuffed down it and have gone through several of those. Janey's DP - do you seriously think a man could make this shit up?!
It's not glamorous but it's also not scary or painful yet either before I scare anyone! grin

Frogcatcher Fri 28-Jun-13 19:41:48

I'm sorry purple but you're just making me laugh at the comedy picture you're painting!

grin I aim to please, don't see how you can take anyone seriously that's got towels stuffed down their knickers!

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 20:23:10

How's it going with little Miles Janey?

Hilarious mental image of the newly small-bumped Purple on sofa with hand towels stuffed down mens pants although I am taking all this in for reference. grin
When my mate's waters went she was home alone and said she just went an sat in the empty bath with her phone until she could get someone to come and help her. Oh, it's just all so glamorous daaahling! wink

Hazle have they let you escape for the night?

Just wanted to run it by you guys... an absolutely mahoosive piece of Millionaires Cheesecake with double cream is another natural method to start labour, right? Well nothing else is bloody well working.

MotherOfCleo Fri 28-Jun-13 20:34:35

Purple your image of dogs licking your waters as you do a bambi on ice impression on the laminate made me laugh out loud. Hope you have some more news soon and baby gets the memo thats its eviction night! wink

Hope Miles is ok Janey, sending lots of love your way.

Hi Merkin, hows everything with you? Good I hope!!

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 20:48:32

Yay I was finally released. They were grumbling but as they were not planning to do anything overnight then I figured I'd rather sleep in my own bed. Was warned that they will probably want to induce tomorrow.

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 20:53:18

Good news Hazle. Everybody will have their babies by the end of this weekend except me! envy

Oh that's good news Hazle, you'll get much more rest at home.

Mother - it made me laugh out loud as well! It's a very bewildering thing being in the house on your own leaking everywhere and not knowing quite what to do about it.

<waves> thanks for the well wishes Merkin.

Come on Cavort's baby <waves Pom poms>

janey1234 Fri 28-Jun-13 21:42:03

Hi merkin! Hope all is ok with you and thanks for your thoughts..

Hazle - glad you're home, sounds like an exciting day ahead tomorrow. Good luck and get lots of sleep.

Finally allowed out of bed. Persuaded them to take cathatar out and walked round to see him. He looks so teeny, knocked out on morphine and hooked up to machines. Can't stop thinking about wires by athlete, making me want to cry... No news really, except I don't think he's any worse, which has got to be a good thing. I just wish he was able to breathe for himself hmmHe is totally gorgeous, will try to post a pic of him later, before he was whisked off to nicu, when we had our two hours of snuggles

Oh and tried to express spome colustrum for him. Unsurprisingly my shitty non-working boobs failed to produce anything... hmm

HazleNutt Fri 28-Jun-13 21:56:12

janey I think it could take more time after a CS for the boobs to start working? Definitely good news he's stable.

cavort when they were monitoring you, did the machine show contractions? Apparently I'm having small ones quite regularly according to the reading, but can't feel a thing. Of course hoping for the labour to start naturally, so I could stay home for as long as possible.

Cavort Fri 28-Jun-13 22:07:43

They never said anything about contractions Hazle so I guess not. That's good news if you are, FX things kick off soon naturally. smile

So for the second night running I've had no sleep whatsoever, yesterday it was backache, today it's contractions, I'm very tired. WIBU to smother the snoring smug fucker that I live with for sleeping thorough it all again when I'm awake and in pain?

HazleNutt Sat 29-Jun-13 05:59:32

Totally reasonable, Purple.

But at least you have contractions. None here, at least nothing I can feel. Let's see what the hospital says.