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June 2013 - thread 9 - not many babies left to arrive now :-)

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MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 08:37:03

New thread as we appear to be talking a fair bit!

Lets hope we've all given birth by the end of this one :-)

HappyGoLuckyGirl Sat 15-Jun-13 08:56:37

Thanks for the welcome everyone smile

Steff, we had the same due date! And appear to have very lazy boys.

MrsBri, is this your first baby? Everyone keeps telling me its more than likely that firsts go over.

And if I get one more "have you had him yet" text, phone call or fb message I may just have to punch someone in the face scream.

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 09:06:17

Yes, it's my first. And I know quite a few do go overdue. I'm really hoping I don't, but am preparing mentally to be induced on 1st July!

And I concur on the messages. And I'm not even late yet. Do people really think they won't be told? No news = no baby, so bog off. Grrrr!

AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 09:07:09

I jinxed myself! Cannot get back to sleep now- grrrr!

Thanks for the new thread mrsbri!

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 09:29:01

it's not that im.awake at that point, it's that I've gone to the loo or woken up feeling sick and eaten a biscuit but then am really alert and can't get back to sleep,

yy to the messages, felt like turning around to someone who looked at my humongous belly and went no news yet, I nearly said no I had the baby weeks ago, I've left him with the dog to be looked after, the dogs technically 21 in dog years so an adult, mum said id get in trouble...

farmers market should be good, im banned from helping mum she thinks it'll make the baby shoot out somehow? but she's got an extra stall today doing crafty bits with kids to make and take home for fathers day, she's really creative and crafty so I hope it's busy

curlyclaz13 Sat 15-Jun-13 09:32:13

Lost count of feeds since last night but must be around 10 + just had 3 feeds in an hour. How do our bodies cope with so little sleep ? Only had about an hour and still feel human OH can not keep awake and is asleep now. I would quite like to punch him but know that's mean. Oscar does not really like his crib so far he is fast asleep on me but if I put him down he will wake up again, bit tricky as co sleeping is out as OH still smokesin the evenings snd we sre wriggly sleepers.
Waiting for mw and hope she has some suggestions.

ginauk84 Sat 15-Jun-13 09:33:44

38 + 2 here so still waiting, have been getting period type cramps most nights which wake me up. Bed isn't overly comfy with SPD so I end up getting up early too.

First week of maternity hasn't really dragged, been doing some batch cooking & sorting out our broken laptop as well as washing and grooming dogs. Where is the sun though - want to be back out there sunbathing, was getting a nice tan.

Still not had any BH.

Marking place, back later as I currently have all 3 kids on my own as DH is working this morning.

Welcome Happy!

learnermummy Sat 15-Jun-13 09:37:04

Thanks for the new thread MrsBri.

Welcome Happy, hope you get going soon. My first wasn't really late but my second was 16 days late shock. Hoping this one is a bit earlier than that!

DH has taken the kids out to tennis so am enjoying lazing in bed watching Saturday kitchen!

Thanks for new thread Mrs Bri.
Welcome Happy.

Nothing overnight here, couple of contractions this morning but now stopped. Fingers crossed something happens today, I know i can't really complain as not yet 40 weeks, but my body is playing proper mind tricks. Contractions since tues, lost my mucous plug (again and again), had a good internal clear out (sorry tmi). How much longer can it possibly take?!!! Sorry for the moan, as you can probably tell getting very fed up here, but I know I'm not the only one on here.

Hope everyone has a good Saturday. Don't think I'll be going for a walk today, forecast rain all day so I might get on my ball and watch the tennis.

curiousgeorgie Sat 15-Jun-13 09:51:14

Those 'did you have the baby yet' messages are very frustrating.. Especially as actually I'm only 38+4 (but I'm allowed to be impatient wink)

I also get... You've been pregnant forever / my god you're massive and are you sure your dates are right??!

Managed to be convinced yesterday afternoon that the weather would be nice today and we should throw a BBQ for everyone so been out in the freezing cold under grey skies pressure washing the BBQ and spent a fortune in sainsburys last night only for it to surely pour and everyone to bail on us. My first DD was born in October 2010 and it was a lot warmer than this!

SunnyL Sat 15-Jun-13 10:13:46

In breaking news, UN weapons inspectors discovered a new source of weapons of mass destruction in a white cotton bra somewhere in southern Scotland. Aka mu milk came in last night. Holeeee sheeeet. Cant decide between popping to mothercare for some nursing bras or the local builders merchant for some scaffolding because i'm not convinced there is enough cotton in this world to cover these bad boys.

Lily took a looooooonnng time to settle again last night. We're moving one step closer to teaching her that it is possible to sleep in the moses basket and not just on peoples chests. Swaddling was very much the key word last night.

Got the in-laws and SIL's family descending on us today. Theyre even bringing our dogs sister along so likely to be carnage. Still a free pub lunch will be appreciated.

Sarah2506 Sat 15-Jun-13 10:20:27

sunny that made me laugh. Mine are so frickin huge I think I'm going to topple over. DH keeps staring at them but has correctly determined that touching is not the way to go. Busting out of nursing bra. I'm lead to believe they will calm down. Better bloody well do so quick.

If anyone wants to burn money but get a semi decent nights sleep then get a Baby bay. Absolutely the best money we spent. Co sleeping without the co sleeping. Polly has no interest in sleeping in boxes and without this I reckon she would have stormed out.

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 10:21:10

I had Theiya at 40+1 so there's hope ladies and she's my first so could be on time

Hope everyone's got something nice planned for the weekend I'm just waiting in for the midwife today and having a photographer friend round on Monday night for a newborn shoot so excited and we don't pay unless we order which is even better grin

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 11:05:58

Stupid auto correct I just noticed it should be Theiah how rude! Hehe

forgetmenots Sat 15-Jun-13 11:14:25

Marking my spot to follow the new arrivals more closely smile

Sorry I havent been on other threads, I have been trying to keep up but they're moving so quickly!
I'm 41 weeks today with first baby, a girl. I'm booked for induction on thurs if nothing happens and I'm bloody scared. Nothing at all has happened in terms of bh or show. Sweep failed on Wednesday. Trying again tomorrow. sad
Totally agree about people asking 'any news?' angry fuck off isn't the acceptable response tho.
good luck all the other overduers!!

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 11:44:26

hi coffee the way im trying to go into the thought of the induction is it's only a day, 2 at most of pain then thats it, what is 2 days out of your life? it's nothing, a lot of my friends look at me like hmm when I say that im calm about how he gets here and dont believe me but I really am just trying to channel that in, - and I have an est 10lb5 ish baby give or take a few oz
just dont ask if im freaking out about pain just before or during transition

rrreow Sat 15-Jun-13 12:04:25

Marking place!

Day 8 and my boobs seem to finally have calmed down. They were like rocks for a while. I only have one nursing bra that semi-fits! My nursing bras from last time are all too small!

rrreow Sat 15-Jun-13 12:05:38

That is not a complaint by the way, I'm usually a large B/small C so to actually have boobs for a change is excellent grin

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 12:37:39

Gina, the period cramps will be BH if your bump also goes tight.

Littlemiss, I can relate to the (TMI) clear out as my body has been assisting me that way since last week at some point.

No show / plug here yet though, but that's not important.

Hi to coffee :-) Here's hoping your sweep tomorrow will work rather than needing an induction.

Sunbeam18 Sat 15-Jun-13 14:40:08

Marking place! Sitting in Bravissimo waiting to get fitted for a nursing bra...

Withalittlesparkle Sat 15-Jun-13 15:06:23

Marking place

Zero movement here, bit crampy but have been for a few days!!

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 16:02:22

mrs bri if your bump doesn't go tight does that mean it isn't BH?

a day of walking, pain in my back and the bottom of my tummy and little bits of mucous/show, but only tiny bits of it, nothing to write home about

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 16:06:49

Apparently not Steff. More likely to just be stretching pain.

Anyone had pain at the bottom of their bump, travelling downwards? A bit like lightning crotch, but further up? I'm in a bit of pain here but not sure if it is normal or if I should be ringing somebody. Bump is tight at the same time.


AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 16:14:10

Welcome coffee! smile

I'm finding it really encouraging that you ladies with babies haven't jumped ship now that the babies have arrived! I'm really loving your updates on the other side of the waiting game and had also started to worry that I'd be the only one posting in a week or so! Thanks!

How was the farmers market stef?

Sunbeam let us know how the fitting goes. I was really disappointed with mine there last week but have always been really pleased in the past there. It probably cos I didn't have an appt and they just squeezed me in but I didn't end up buying as I wasn't certain of what I was being told and that's never happened there before- I always end up buying loads after a fitting!

Just waiting for my mum to pick me up to go to Tesco. DH and DS have fallen asleep and I just mentioned on the phone that I was planning to pop there but she's banned me from driving!

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 16:15:30

Problem solved...emptied my bladder and pain has gone!

AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 16:15:43

Oo mrsbri! Exciting! I'm not sure sorry- you could phone someone to check and be on safe side. Fingers crossed for you that this is the beginning!

AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 16:16:05

Double cross post! Sorry!

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 16:19:05

Ha ha, AmI, I was briefly excited too! Boo.

Maybe it was a BH combined with baby faffing around my bladder?!

pinkbear82 Sat 15-Jun-13 16:43:24

welcome to those who are just joining us smile hope the waits not too long for you!

have I missed any arrivals?! I tried to keep up but we're a talkative bunch plus my memory is like a goldfish at the moment.

lovely having dp back - altho emotional and I'm blaming hormones for making it even more so wink a real plus point? I'm enjoying my first post pregnancy bath while daddy and little lady spend some time together.

those of you still waiting....... are you positive you got your dates right?! wink grin

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 16:46:51

ami farmers market was good when I got there, went to the carnival too in the hopes that walking helps things start, but im just sore.

in bad news came to see my mum for some bits to mend our roof and found my mum in tears, she has 4 chickens named after me, my sister and 2 cousins, well my namesake wasn't well this morning which she didn't say when we were helping at the market, well 20 minutes after she got back from the market steffy chicken died in her arms sad she's always been a bit of a sicky chicky but it was a bit of an unexpected death and dealing with it alone upset her a lot I think cause dad would usually deal with it with her and the chickies are all our family, sad times

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 16:51:40

god sorry that was a bit of a downer,
pink bear glad you're getting to relax smile

ginauk84 Sat 15-Jun-13 16:53:47

No don't think my pains are BH as it is more like a continual ache through the night rather than actual cramps.

I went to tesco yesterday and discovered that having a 4x4 and being heavily pregnant doesn't go together when you are trying to park! No matter how far I parked close to the car on the passenger side I still couldn't get out! So had to park miles away & take up two spaces then the walk didn't do my SPD much good - was thoroughly fed up!

I can't wait to start to get back to normal again and lose some weight, those of you that returned to your pre-baby weight that within 3-4 weeks, how much had you put on during pregnancy? I have put on quite a lot - 3 stone so don't expect to lose it that quickly so was intrigued how much you had got to lose?

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 17:13:51

people having trouble with bras have you been onto the s&b threads, you measure under your boobs then lean forwards and measure your body + boobs and tell them, then voila they tell you your bra size they're very magic ladies over on the bra threads,

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 17:24:19

Pink, I definitely conceived on 30th September. Excruciating OV pain tells me that! My due date is 23/24 June based on that. I'm only 20 June because of the scan. Sigh.

And that's so lovely re your DP. You must be so pleased to have him back.

Steff, I'm sorry about the chicken. Is your mum ok now?

forgetmenots Sat 15-Jun-13 17:25:11

Just want to second the bra threads recommendation - those ladies know their stuff...

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 17:59:40

Mrsbri mum will be ok, think it's just cause of how much we are all attached to them, she got them just over 2 years ago after her mum died, we've had some good luck over the last 2 years,

have been planning an early birthday tea and present giving for me just incase we get to the induction date and im sat in hospital bored shitless waiting for it to work

SunnyL Sat 15-Jun-13 18:03:32

I've got my crippling headache back again. Did any of you ladies Who had an epidural or c-section get told what to do re the headache thing. I remember being told that in some cases post-spinal block you might need to get a blood patch to fix it. I was so out of it when the anaesthetist spoke to me I can't remember.

pinkbear82 Sat 15-Jun-13 18:30:43

another one to say the bra threads are well worth a look at - I actually have a nursing bra that fits and is comfy!! wish I'd found them sooner!

it is lovely to have him back..... but by God is he untidy!! and my washing basket is full again...... and as for sharing the bed again....... grin

best go change the millionth nappy of the day.... boob munching poop machine has struck again!

arlandria666 Sat 15-Jun-13 18:44:01

I keep popping on to see how the babies are popping out :-) mainly catch up during the night feeds!
DS got diagnosed with reflux yesterday so now i have to try and get 15ml of gaviscon down him! I am sure after previously cup feeding now this is will soon dislike me :-(

Withalittlesparkle Sat 15-Jun-13 19:17:32

I think there's a bit of a baby lull

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 19:29:47

We need to start another surge, Sparkle! :-)

learnermummy Sat 15-Jun-13 19:43:03

Mrs Bri how do you calculate due date from conception date as I know mine too - also from awful ovulation pain!

Think I've overdone it weeding the veggie plot today, think have pulled muscle at top of bump hmm

MrsBri Sat 15-Jun-13 19:53:58

Sounds painful, learner :-(

Use this website for due date calculator:


pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 19:58:48

Sorry about the chicky steff sad

And the lack of baby news hopefully someone else's bundle will come along soon fingers crossed it will be one of those who are wanting baby to be here not those needing to keep them in (not sure how many of those left)

Baby Theiah is doing ok midwife happy today I'm not sure she didn't cry when she came out (a nice sign I thought) but its like as she didn't she has some mucus left on her chest and every now a then she appears to choke and i pick her up and pat her back but she never brings anything up I kind of wish she'd just sick it up makes me worry ill miss it if it happens when hubby and I are asleep at night sad

AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 20:08:03

Aw pink I'm glad things are so nice with your dp home!

Oo I'll have to have a look at the bra threads- any one in particular good for nursing bras?

Sorry to hear about the chicken Stef and that your mums upset. I hope that the birthday tea cheers you both up.

Like you mrsbri I'm convinced that my dates are wrong and that I'll be waiting around long after the 25th! Can't remember my date that I worked out now but am pretty sure it was more like the 30th. Please little one, don't leave me waiting that long!

AmIGoingMad Sat 15-Jun-13 20:10:11

Aw pink that's scary for you. Nag the midwife about it so that she understands that you need a solution or at the very least some reassurance. I'm sure that your little princess will be fine but you need that reassurance for your own sanity.

pinkbear82 Sat 15-Jun-13 20:11:57

ami - I plumped for a nursing bra from eBay - it's pretty yet functional, lupo if I remember rightly. brand new but much nicer than a lot of others I've seen.
I might just be fussy tho!!

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 20:25:23

Yup midwife coming again tomorrow so will ask her even a bit of suctioning or something might help to clear it fingers crossed they do something

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 20:28:33

ami, if in doubt just ask on the active thread and explain what you need, they're some very wise people!

took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to get out of the bath, my bath is quite thin!

mum will be ok, will just take her a few days, thanks guys

and FYI if theres a baby surge please take me with you!

DontmindifIdo Sat 15-Jun-13 20:31:14

SunnyL - I'm glad it's not just me who has a non-moses basket loving DD. She also has taken to wanting to sleep on people. She's just about tolerating sleeping between us in bed, although right now is swaddled in the basket by my feet in the living room, no idea why it's so offensive when same moses basket is relocated to our bedroom <sigh>

I'm afraid I didn't pay attention either about headaches, can you call your midwife team if you're not sure?

<self indulgent whinge about feeding>
I've been having a rather hellish few days, midwife said DD hasn't regained her birth weight so they are coming back tomorrow to weigh again. I've been feeding constaintly, and snapped and introduced some formula - I can't keep this hourly feeding up, I feel wiped. It's ok in the day, but last night it was from 1am - 3am just feeding and feeding (she's feeding for 5-10 minutes, then falling asleep, then waking up again about 10 minutes later and wanting to latch again). DH gave her formula at 6am because I wanted to cry when she woke up again.

Realistically, I'm not sure this is practical once DH goes back to work next week - I've got him at home Monday - Tuesday and Wednesday DS is at nursery so I've got all day to just sit and feed, but from Thursday next week, I've got a toddler and a baby to deal with, I need to have some sort of routine in place, it's just not fair on DS, if I can't go more than 45 minutes with her off the boob, how am I going to do anything for him? Feel terrible that I fed DS until he was 5 months, feel like it's unfair on DD to give up too soon. sad

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 21:21:17

I have a possible tmi but just wondered... All those with new baby girl babies is there anything coming out of them down there? Theiah seems to have some discharge sometimes what I'd consider normal and then there appears to be some slime that I can't get have cleaned it and will show midwife tomorrow but just wondered

redwellybluewelly Sat 15-Jun-13 21:22:02

pink we're dealing with mucus issues too, it panicked me the first few timea but now keep bubs a bit on her side which seems to help. Our issue is projectile vomit when she feeds from one breast!

Re the headache I'd contact your ooh MW team.

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 21:41:51

Don't mind that feeding sounds hard luckily Theiah seems to feed for 30-45 mins and then sleeps till the next one (normally between 3-5hrs) no cluster feeding for me yet have you spoke to anyone about feeding?

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 21:42:16

it's totally normal with little girls, they mentioned it at our ante natal classes

Sarah2506 Sat 15-Jun-13 21:50:04

Polly has it too. Totally normal.

She also has projectile poo. It's remarkable. The speed and force with which it leaves her is quite something.

Olimoss Sat 15-Jun-13 22:04:10

Nursing bras - might I recommend the Anita? I've got the underwired one, is aces. Think it has a non-underwired version, got mine from Rigby & Peller. Totally like a normal, proper bra, v comfortable.

Projectile poo does not sound fun at all! So far Joe has been expelling as normal, hope it stays that way. There've been a couple of near misses, where poop as reached near the back of his nappy. He pees every time we take the nappy off, though, a glorious arc of yellow piss, so we have to cover his wang with a cotton pad or similar.

The glamour of new motherhood is off the scale.

Olimoss Sat 15-Jun-13 22:09:09

Don'tmind - feed her in a way that suits you. Your life is different now, you have two kids, not one, so the demands on you have really changed.

I didn't really have much choice with Joe in regards to how he fed, he had to be bottlefed in NICU, never learnt to breast feed and now refuses to even countenance the boob. I also have to top up what boob milk I can express with 1-2 formula feeds a day as I do not make enough milk to keep up with him.

I'm sad I never got the opportunity to breast feed but figure that he's doing fine and I'm doing the best I can. Same with you - both kids will be fine, and better, even, if you find a way to care for them both that doesn't leave you utterly ragged.

Sarah2506 Sat 15-Jun-13 22:14:54

Oli too true. I think my favourite moment so far was when a wee and poo combined and we ended up with runny shit absolutely everywhere. And then she threw up. On clean clothes, ours and hers.

Sarah - maybe try having a selection of special toys/books/films or whatever that he's only allowed to access when you're feeding DD? I did something along those lines when DS1 was small, it did help keep DD occupied during feeds well that and a LOT of cbeebies

Oli - I have an underwired Anita too, it's fab.

Oh and the ability of small boys to piss on their own heads never ceases to amaze me! grin

Mind you, DH last night managed to have a 5 minute period where M not only pissed on his own head, he then threw up on the clean vest before it was even on him properly, then threw up again over the 2nd clean vest. The 2nd clean vest just got wiped and left on, since it wasn't too bad. And so the horrible truth of the new baby smell is revealed... grin

Steffanoid Sat 15-Jun-13 22:24:59

oli it's because the colder air than.inside their nappy causes the bladder to contract, with my sisters ds you kinda open the nappy close it dead fast and make sure you've got some cotton wool close, but I've found by the second opening he doesn't lee as much fyi dont use baby wipes, as they're already wet they just divert per to all over the change mat instead

pinkapples Sat 15-Jun-13 22:26:28

On the poo front Theiah hadn't pooed today so I changed a wet nappy about 8pm picked her up and the dog came over smelled her bum (through nappy and baby grow) and ran back to the sofa... Turns out she'd pooed loads! Some dogs detect cancer mine can apparently identify baby shit!

SunnyL Sat 15-Jun-13 22:32:55

Been at the out of hours service re the headache. They were really lovely. Basically they expect you to have a headache but if it is so severe you feel like you can't cope or lift your head off the pillow they will do the blood patch. They've given me the number for obstetrics triage and said if I still feel awful in the morning to call them and they will do it. They also told me not to worry about wasting anyone's time.

They've given me super duper paracetamol and ibuprofen and recommend I step my fluid intake up to insane levels.

Re projectile poo. Just changed a nappy only for her to start another poo part way through. Like a tube of toothpaste this kid being jumped on by a fat man! Still it's no surprise given how much she has fed today. In laws were here for 6 hours (despite saying it would be 3hrs max hmmmmm) and she fed for at least 3 of those.

learnermummy Sat 15-Jun-13 22:42:10

Another vote for underwired Anita bras - have worn all pregnancy.

All this nappy talk - its been over 18 months since I changed one and have never changed a girl before - getting nervous!

kiwi5 Sat 15-Jun-13 23:37:46

Goodness. I go away and have a baby and then cant find u. Or rememember who was in the same boat as me on wed night! Brain seriously impacted by labour!
Congrats to all new babies.
Barnaby was born thurs eve. 7lb5oz. 2 days early.
Labour was ok. Waters broke thurs morn and then Took a while to get dilated. But then went from 0 to 60 very quickly.
Bubs doing ok. Tongue tie but appears to be feeding ok at the mo. Will see how he goes when my milk comes in!
Hopefilly will post more now i will be sat around feeding!!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 01:12:47

Awww congrats kiwi gorgeous name he shares with my little one also born Thursday... Glad he's doing ok feeding and hope your enjoying cuddles! grin

Any tips re attachment my boob is quite sore on one side my right she feeds fine from good attachment chubby full cheeks milk round mouth etc but my left she always seems to have less boob in her mouth not so many swallowing sounds (although she is feeding and does swallow) and slightly pinched in cheeks? It is quite sore so will slide my finger in and try to reattach her but she goes back on the same way? I'm holding her to the side as boobs are mahoosive and midwife recommended its be easier for her to feed that way just wondered any ideas? Midwifes coming tomorrow so something else to ask hehe grin shell love me!

I wonder what's going on tonight any stirs keep us posted when not pre occupied obviously wink

AlohaMama Sun 16-Jun-13 01:19:51

So much to catch up on. We came home from hospital Wednesday lunchtime then spent next two days getting our house ready to sell. Today is the open house and then we can relax!!

Evie is doing well, hasn't regained her birth weight yet (though only 4% down) so we still have to wake her up every 3 hours to feed. I'm just looking forward to sleeping longer, like everyone, and now we're done with the house, hopefully having dh be able to helps bit more.
Yyy sunny on the boobs. Goodness me like two rock hard watermelons. My nursing bras are all too tight and I can't even lie on my side as it hurts for them to press against the bed. Can't wait for them to settle down. Its ridiculous.

Sorry for all those bored with waiting. Congrats kiwi and anyone else I've missed.

Congrats Kiwi thanks

(Not at all jealous your labour progressed....)
Still on and off contractions here loads of discomfort tonight so I've given up trying to sleep. Custard cream or Bourbon biscuit anyone?

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 03:59:22

Ohhh ill take a bourbon brew hubby's got a thing with chocolate hobnobs at the minute that's all I can find in the bloody cupboards grin

Just having a 3.30 cuddle as Theiah's been up I think pretending to choke although her beautiful song in the basket beforehand tells me I think she's fine and after coughing up nothing she's fallen asleep on me grinhave collected some brown stuff that she sicked at the last feed smallest amount ever! To show midwife might help

Slept better tonight tho think I managed 5 hrs not including anything I get after her next feed so that's nearly double yesterday

pink how do you pronounce your baby's name?
stef very good point about it hopefully being quick...

....if I get that far. Had a good walk around the park and fed the ducks in the pouring rain this afternoon, and its definitely started something....I think....maybe. bloody first-timer!

Started getting bad period type pains sat afternoon. Things started to get regular, 15 mins or so about 5 pm.Two hour long bath was required. Tens machine went on. Got to about 11pm exhausted, took tens off, pain was quite bad, but didn't want to sleep with tens machine on. Worried about having a massive shock. Slept for what feels like 10 mins. Got up at 3.30. Pains 10 mins apart. Been back in bath since then. Need to get out as my feet are awful crinkled.

Listening to husband snore is really pissing me off! He's woken up a few times, due to my mooing grin but is now fast asleep. I wish we could swap places!

So lots happening i hope. If I get to see midwife tomorrow and she says nothing is happening with my cervix I may be sending my next post from prison! angry

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 05:32:33

Coffee that sounds awfully promising fingers crossed grin

Its pronounced thee-a it's meant to be spelt thea but we had a baby book that his alternative spellings (which I think is quite nice if you want something a bit different) so we chose a different one grin

She has finally stopped screaming and given in to a feed took 20 mins to latch on this morning she was having a serious moment! But all done and now feeding

massagegirl Sun 16-Jun-13 06:52:36

Pink makes me feel better as my Thea took about 10 mins to latch on at 3am, it was hard going! Also when she was born she had the mucus thing and bought up quite a lot. I was shown to turn her on tummy or in a sitting up burbing position and rub/pat her back. Didn't last did long. Looking forward to all the babies arriving then we can entertain each other when feeding in middle of night!

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 07:24:23

Congrats kiwi!smile

And fingers crossed this is it coffee!smile

Don'tmind- I think oli said it really well. You should do whatever's right for your current situation and not give yourself a hard time about it. I should imagine that life with 2 is very different to life with 1 little one- especially at the beginning when you're trying to figure it all out. I'm sure that people will have lots of helpful suggestions as to things to try out. If you feel it will benefit you as a family then you could try them but please don't feel bad if you ff. bf didn't work out for my DS and he is a bright, bouncing healthy bundle of energy at 2.5 yrs!

Learner- I'm also nervous about making the change to changing girl nappies from being used to boy ones! With boy nappies I found cotton wool pleat thingy amazing- I'd have one at the ready as soon as I opened the nappy and funnily enough DS only seemed to pee everywhere on DHs nappy changes!grin

Aloha- how did the open house go? Bet you're relieved that's over with!

A question for you lucky ladies with babes in arms- what did you actually find useful from your hospital bags? And what did you realise you really could have left out of it? I can't remember from last time!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 07:25:18

Definitely massagegirl that's what I need hehe have been picking her up when I hear it and either having her over my shoulder patting her or sitting her up luckily she stays asleep most of the time

Very impressed she's still asleep and adding it all up she managed to wake up for 2 feeds since I went to bed at 10.35 after her feed and slept the rest (minus the 1/2 hr screaming spell which I looked at as her clearing her chest hehe) then hubby and I managed more than 6 hours woohoo! She's still asleep now and I've got up had a shower and am airing my stitches for 10 minutes before I get dressed ready for the day grin proud newborn mummy moment

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 07:32:09

Aml my drinks were a god send especially when pushing with the gas and air (if you do it naturally obviously not for c sections) as your mouth is really dry I'd puff push then swig repeatedly till baby was here

Also relied on my knickers and 2 pairs of loose trousers/bottoms after (we stayed in one night) but didn't need the tshirts/jumpers as I bf so was shirt off most of the time just had one baggy one of hubby's for visitors and then one to go home also didn't need all the baby clothes just a baby grow and sleepsuit took a hat but we brought her home in the bandage one and then a blanket. Mat pads obviously but our birthing centre provided them so double check as I took a whole pack and didn't use them (could have saved space) we also took whole small bag of nappies but only used 5 in 24 hrs so could have saved space there too

cupcake78 Sun 16-Jun-13 07:39:13

Well I'm also waiting (impatiently).

Been getting all the relevant signs but nothing hurts enough or sticks around long enough for it to be labour. Only 38+4 and have a feeling there's no rush from the baby, its just pottering about instead of any commitment hmm. His big brother did a similar thing but took 4 days and nights to fully get going.

Congratulations to those of you who are experiencing sleepless nights due to baby snuggles!

I'm looking forward to being done with being pregnant. Finally having my baby and stopping all this waiting about and not knowing! Being able to walk and not in constant pain (spd). But for now its hormone hell, constant niggles, back ache, sleepless nights mainly due to ds1 (he's 6 in 3 months fgs!). How I'm going to manage him and a baby I don't know but I will have to.

Longing for childbirth must give the men folk some idea if how hard pregnancy is.

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 07:40:59

Thanks pink! And well done! That's impressive indeed at this point- don't think I was showered before midday for ages!grin

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 07:42:35

X post cupcake- I'm with you! Will miss feeling baby wriggle around but am ready to have my body back and to start adjusting to life as a family of 4 now!

pinkbear82 Sun 16-Jun-13 08:10:01

're hospital bags - I have to say I hardly used anything I took!! (apart from the essentials) should have packed some flannels to help keep me cool as we ended up using babies muslins!
maybe if we had stayed in longer more of it would have been useful.

little lady did amazing last night woke up for her feeds and settled right back down again. she was so good at one point dp woke me to ask if I had fed her - he is right next to me and slept thru it all smile

with the latching on - does anyone seems find they latch on better on one boob compared to the other? violet almost self latches on my right but my left takes forever and she never seems to feed for long from

forgetmenots Sun 16-Jun-13 08:21:49

Hospital bags - I ended up in hospital for ten days so I used everything! Big pluses for me were disposable changing mats, breast and mat pads (the ones provided were a bit thin), primark knickers multipack and nightshirts.

If you've got a Kindle, don't leave without it smile

massagegirl Sun 16-Jun-13 09:18:41

Yep Thea latches on MUCH better on the right boob, and seems to be more efficient feeding there too.
Hospital bag... Muslins,cooling water spray, snacks for energy after labour were all really useful, blankets and vests for baby not as much as the hospital was unbelievably hot!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 10:01:24

Yup theiah prefers the right but its a bit sore now going to speak to midwife today as not sure she's got enough boob in or not far enough in as its quite stabby when she's on im not giving up as it is just bearable but obviously dont know what to expect. anyone else got pain or is it completely painless?

learnermummy Sun 16-Jun-13 10:01:32

Congratulations kiwi gringringrin

AlohaMama Sun 16-Jun-13 10:38:27

.Pink it's definitely not painless here. Tbh even if bf-ing is going well and you have a good latch etc I think it can take a good couple of weeks for your boobs to get used to it. Even then the let down can be momentarily painful.

AmI the open house went great I think. House looked sparking, we hid out at our friends all afternoon. I think there were 10 appointments, 4 so far have said hey will be making offers so we're hoping for a bidding war!!! I like the system here where if the market is good its all over in a day. When we sold our house in 2008 it took 18 months!!!!

Things I'd forgotten about bf-ing since ds-1. Blood blisters on nipples, 2. Remarkable ability of babies to suck while apparently fast asleep, 3. Milk fountain when they pull off (milk all over the clean bed sheets, sigh)

AlohaMama Sun 16-Jun-13 10:48:01

And 4. Ridiculous gargantuan size of milk-filled boobs, and paired with that, 5. Ridiculous comedy look of said boobs when lo has only fed on one side!

Mawgatron Sun 16-Jun-13 12:16:09

Arrrrggghhh! Stop talking everyone! Gonna take me ages to cath you all up!

2nd day home, still over the moon. Dh's parents over later bringing us everything to cook us roast dinner. Everyone has been amazing, and although we have had lots if visits, they have all been mini and everyone knows when to fuck off!

Community midwife has been, Baxter is doing brilliantly, feeding well (also constantly! Very greedy little man!), nappies looking good. Managed to be a bad mum initially- totally weed in his own face when I changed his nappy blush. Got to grips with that one now though thank goodness. Also, stitches healing well. Have yet to brave a poo yet. Will cross that bridge with trepidation.

Hoping all of you waiting don't have long now, I can imagine how frustrated you must be. And actually, I think fuck off is an appropriate answer for annoying is he here yet questions...

Promise to catch up properly soon, inevitably when I have a tiny person hanging off my boob! Loves x

pinkbear82 Sun 16-Jun-13 12:39:45

pink we have a sharp pain when first latching on and then it goes - turns into more of a tickle on the nipple. I do have a few bruises a) from fingers pinching and b) from being distracted and the sucking being mis guided!

dp's two girls are with us today and are adoring their little sister. having more than just a newborn in the house is quite exhausting! I don't envy you lot with more than one on a permanent basis!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 13:08:25

Maw I'm 3 days post delivery and no poo yet I can't bring myself to mind you it helps that I don't actually need to go

Midwife been here to mentioned slime all normal grin choking on saliva normal grin attachment good and she said the damage was probably from the first few feeds grin Theiah has lost 9% of her birth weight but she wasn't concerned as poos/wees normal wakes for feeds and good attachment so all good she said she should put it on when milk comes... No milk yet so dreading hoping that comes in soon so she can have a proper feed

Pink I'm still getting pain when latching on, mostly that goes fairly quickly (not atm as I have blocked ducts AND thrush, gah). The technique I was taught in NICU with DS1 helps, it's a deep latch which means you put more boob in their mouth to start with by kind of pinching your boob in a C or a U shape depending on which hold you're using - there's a fairly good video on YouTube showing it here.

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 13:51:45

still waiting, oh got his fathers day card with a note saying sorry I'm not there in person but mummys tummy is comfy, I'll come to meet you soon smile
ohs parents are here Tuesday -thursday then his dad is France for a week and his mum is back at work so hoping Tuesdays sweep helps somewhat so they get to meet him, have resorted to pineapples but juice not tge actual thing cause I cant stand pineapples so tge bottle I've got has the juice of 6 pineapples in it, im thinking I can down that quite quickly and if it doesn't make baby arrive it'll make me ill, entertainment either way
oh did think of thrown up luminous pink last night as I spilt gaviscon and didn't manage to clean all of it

im bored of waiting now, I want to meet this baby

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 14:49:04

Rue that video is fab makes sense too hehe still getting a pinched nipple so not there yet but will keep trying its not to painful so that's good and she got on almost straight away she's had 20 mins so she's sleeping now grin time for a brew

ella0 Sun 16-Jun-13 14:49:26

Don'tmind, I could have written your feeding paragraph almost word for word. I'm having exactly the same problem; my baby is usually ok during the day, but at night she's feeding for 5-10 minutes, falling asleep (we've tried all the usual tricks) but then crying out to be fed 5-10 minutes later. And this can go on for hours and hours and hours. I'm breastfeeding, but have started expressing so my husband can help out during the night. We have formula as back-up too as there are some days when she feeds so much I literally don't have time to express enough (I'd love to build up a stock but I've no idea if that will ever happen!). She also hasn't regained her birth weight yet (she's a big baby).

Pinkbear, my baby is good at latching on to both sides, but she has had a lot of practice (see above!)!

I don't get pain; I've been told if you do it means the latch is wrong. I'm still on painkillers after the c-section though, so maybe that's why! I do feel a bit sore after a lot of feeding though. I do what Rue mentioned, and pinch my boob into a shape so she can fit lots of it into her mouth (deep latch).

Regarding bras, I'm loving my Bravado bras. No worrying about the correct size (other than S/M/L) as they stretch and shrink to size, and they are so comfortable.

I definitely took too much to hospital. We were told to take a few packs of maternity pads, which half filled my bag, but I didn't need any as the hospital provided them while there, and also my lochia was virtually non-existent after my c-section (I didn't need the mats I'd bought for waters breaking/ lochia at all!). I bought way too many pads after reading stories on here, I'll have to keep them for the next one!

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 16:15:27

Thanks for the hospital bag feedback ladies!

Pinkbear I've just realised that your dp got home just in time for his first Father's Day with violet- cute!

All of these feeding comments are making me worry a bit as to how difficult it is I have to be honest! But then its also good to see the tips and have a few of them in mind ready!

Has mrsbri been around today yet? Wonder if there's some progress there?

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 16:19:12

Hello! No, no progress. I've been catching up on sleep by napping on the sofa while DH is off working.

I'm resigned to a July baby :-/ Though I'm hoping baby surprises us!

DH loved his card from bump :-) Just a shame baby didn't pop out in time to give him baby as a present!

Hope everyone is OK and that everyone manages to resolve feeding issues soon. It makes me appreciate the support I'll get up here, to be honest.

AlohaMama Sun 16-Jun-13 16:26:56

Bf can be difficult at the beginning its true, but then for a lot of people its a few weeks of difficult then months of easy, so don't any of you get put off if it what you want to do.

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 16:29:10

I was all excited for you then!

And I didn't mean that I'm not liking the comments in feeding- just read it back and realised that's how it sounded! I just meant that they're putting it into perspective that its not something that is easy by any stretch!

Mawgatron Sun 16-Jun-13 16:51:30

I am not finding it too bad! Not trying to be annoying and rub it in, more to reassure worriers that not everyone finds it hard. He doesn't hurt when he latches, he is just a little tuggy for the first few sucks and then settles into it. The only problem I have is he get too relaxed and falls asleep every 8 sucks so I have to tickle his feet to wake him. He has big feeds every 2-3 hours roughly, but will feed for a good 20 mins/half hour per breast. It is definitely a long process, but I am not finding it painful and he is def getting plenty as he is doing loads of wet and dirty nappies. His poo has changed already too even though he was only born on Friday. So don't despair, not everyone has a hard time!

pinkbear82 Sun 16-Jun-13 17:09:13

ami - I know! I was over the moon smile luckily had forward thought and got him a card, present didn't arrive in time but think he was more than happy being home and being with his girls.

with the breastfeeding - it may have niggles at times but 99% of the time I love it. even those middle of the night feeds where my heads rolling more than a newborns would and I fight to keep my eyes open!!

I'm still slightly amazed at how many things violet's managed to accumulate!! how can such a small thing have so much stuff?!

redwellybluewelly Sun 16-Jun-13 17:29:43

Re hospital bag, I had a CS and was in four days.

We used all three sets of vest/babgro and both blankets, probably about 20nappies but they supplied wipes and cotton wool. I used 8 pairs of soft big knickers keeping comfortable, and quite a few maternity pads but first two days they wanted me to use the hospital ones (?), I didn't use my PJ bottoms but both nighties, came home in what I wore in, toiletries wise I used shampoo/shower gel / Deodorant/Toothbrush /lipsyl. Did use muslins and also a water face spray.

Biggest thing for me was snacks (fruisli bars and apples/banana) and flat lucozade drinks. Especially after I started being sick and keeping hydrated was an issue.

Baby welly is a hungry but windy baby. Also very dry, skin is peeling all over. Oh and sicky. Oh boy is she sicky!

Sarah2506 Sun 16-Jun-13 17:57:21

My solution to the bf problem = nipple shields. They are amazing. I was at point of tears with both nipples macerated. How people manage without is beyond me, and Polly doesn't seem to mind them at all! Buy immediately!!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 18:08:43

I've bought some nipple shells to wear under my clothes so nipples can heal when not feeding she's been beautiful this afternoon and despite tug when she latches is all good during the feed have tried the deep latch and is coming on which is good just would like the nipple damage done on the first day to heal as its quite sore right nipple is hard sad

No milk coming in yet will be 4 days tomorrow so hopefully soon and she can have some proper feeds

Another quick one how often are you top/tailing and/or bathing? Theiah was born Thursday and we've done neither yet

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 18:09:07

Oh and I didn't think you could have nipple shields yet?

Olimoss Sun 16-Jun-13 18:28:09

Gosh, although I'm sad I didn't get the opportunity to breast feed, and am getting quite sore nipples from all the hardcore expressing, I think maybe it's still a lot less painful than what you're all going through!

Bathing - Joe's been home 9 days and has had 3 baths (all in the kitchen sink!!) - he loves it, so I'm tempted to do it every day but he came home from NICU wi v v dry skin so really we are doing every 2-3 days and moisturising him afterwards. Dreading when he grows out of the sink and have to break my back leaning over the bath! We do have one of those Angelcare bath chairs but J loves being immersed in the water and it'll mean running a v deep bath for a v small baby! I think I might just bri g him in a shower with me, actually.

Hospital bag - after a Csction, in for 2 nights - pack of Boots maternity pads (the best ones), nappies, 2 babygros, 3 singlet vests, lots of muslins, some yoga-type trousers and couple biggish tshirts for me, giant undies, toiletries, heaps of fresh fruit. I found I craved salads and fruit mostly, on the tropically hot ward. Didn't eat the hospital food at all, bar breakfast toast (which, incidentally, didn't arrive till 9am - I was ravenous!). Obv didn't get to use everything as J was rushed away but seemed a good amount of stuff. My Mum also brought in my V pillow and another from my bed, but that's my preference. I need a heap of pillows! V pillow was aces actually.

forgetmenots Sun 16-Jun-13 18:43:01

Just wanted to link to my thread on breastfeeding where I got some lovely reassurance and great advice (thanks massagegirl!)

You're not alone. I'm mixed feeding at the moment, hoping to increase supply and get DS back on the breast more regularly. He has an apparently perfect latch and technique but think he did quite early damage to my nipples when he was poorly and not latching on so well. I would howl every time he fed (which was constant).

It isn't as easy for everyone as all the books say, I felt like a total failure, but feeling more positive now especially seeing the change in my boy smile

forgetmenots Sun 16-Jun-13 18:45:11
Hawkmoth Sun 16-Jun-13 18:52:44

Just checking in on the new thread. Have come out of my pit today following three consecutive migraines. I had to go to OOH because the pain was breaking through making me cry an hour after taking painkillers. Fifty hours of hell. Low point would be sobbing my heart out in front of DD, labour is bound to be better than this!

On the plus side, my mum reckons it could be a sign as hormonal migraines run in the family. A quick google seems to back her up, so I'm hoping a bit more than before with every twinge!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 19:17:23

That's like me forgets midwifes say latch and feeding are good I think the damage has already been done will get shields though sounds good idea to me

pinkbear82 Sun 16-Jun-13 19:28:57

hope the migraines stay away for you!

're bathing violet has probably been every other day. and midwife came up with wonderful solution to breaking back over bath - have baby in bath with you! have someone hand to u/to hand back too - but it's wonderful, and means you can have it that bit deeper but feel confident!
good luck!

redwellybluewelly Sun 16-Jun-13 19:40:30

forget our DD1 was also very sick at birth but we couldn't feed her until day 10 so it was a case of ng then combine feeding to start with and very hard work - I'm pleased we did get there eventually but wish I hadn't felt the awful guilt about formula to begin with.

My tummy feels really bruised and swollen still, ten days post op, I am trying to reduce the painkillers but wondered if anyone else the same?

forget - like redwelly's DD1, DS1 was initially on TPN (nutrients straight into the blood stream) then NG tube fed for nearly a month, then finally got to try BFing - we mix fed until he weaned as he needed a prescribed formula to help weight gain for the first few months. I gave up feeling guilty about it, and would totally recommend going with whatever works for you smile

Re baths, M has had precisely 1 bath in the kitchen sink so far (4 weeks old! blush) and gets top and tailed twice a day. DS1 didn't have a bath till a week after he came home from hospital, he was in there for 5 weeks and the nurses said they didn't recommend bathing tiny babies very often as they can't hold their body temp well enough so get cold very easily. A good excuse... grin

massagegirl Sun 16-Jun-13 20:27:02

No worries forget smile I m totally

massagegirl Sun 16-Jun-13 20:28:03

I'm totally over the guilt! Just happy to see a hungry eating baby! Hope the feeding is getting better for you too.

Olimoss Sun 16-Jun-13 20:29:08

I don't get baths! They're hot, horrible things....might be a cultural difference.....! I love a good shower, though. As an Aussie I'm v v keen J loves and is confident in water so maybe I should just get him swimming ASAP....

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 20:41:28

Oil, I want Baby B to be an early, confident, swimmer too as I almost drowned as a toddler so am not a strong swimmer at all (I have an aversion to going under water, funnily enough!). I can swim distance but haven't been able to do life saving stuff etc.

I'm going to make sure baby goes swimming ASAP, probably with DH as he's a much stronger swimmer than I am.

pink ahhh I see. It's very unusual. I like it. Theres some lovely names on this thread.

Well I went in for sweep. 2.5cms. Midwife had a good go of it. Ouchy! Unfortunately blood pressure was abit high, so they sent me over to labour ward. Things still going ok, contractions getting more intense, but after about 4 hours everything sort of stalled. sad
Contractions suddenly much less painfuL and further apart, i turned tens machine turned down.
I suggested I go home, midwives agreed.

So I've come home, taken codeine, just about to go in bath and plug falls out in one big lump. Oh ma gawd!! Why doesn't anyone tell you how hideous it is?! shock i thought I was birthing a slug. Why does no one tell you that part?

So i feel like im back to square one. envy

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 20:44:57

Ha ha, coffee, clearly the contractions loosened it for you!

Fingers crossed it all starts up again soon and baby arrives ASAP. :-)

Olimoss Sun 16-Jun-13 20:46:32

Baby swimming might be a good way for you to get happier in the water MrsBri - the classes are usually in shallow pools, etc....

learnermummy Sun 16-Jun-13 20:52:21

Baby swimming is great, have done it with both of mine and they're both confident swimmers. DS2 could swim unaided just after he turned 3. From memory babies have to be around 4 months old to start.

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 20:54:26

No chance, Oli, that boat has sailed! I'm perfectly happy to swim and used to regularly swim a mile at a time before work. But I detest going underwater and won't swim in the sea. I just don't want to pass my aversion onto baby.

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 20:56:38

had a lovely 2 hour nap while dp walked tge dog and made dinner, felt like id dented my knees and bruised them being on my knees in the bathroom cleaning,
one good thing has come out of today, lost a big chunk of my plug, does it always have blood in it? actually looked like id got a cold and sneezed in it while I wiped, only lost bits of it till now
come on baby we dont want to be induced!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 20:56:43

We plan to take baby swimming too just have to a wait a while and see where the local pools/ sessions are will also be going to the post natal aqua classes run by same person who I did the aquanatal classes with but have to wait till they start up again can't go till after 6 weeks check anyhoo

Out to tesco for boob cabbage tomorrow hehe

Oooh the thread moved on to swimming by the time I posted.

I got a good lungfull of water when I was about five in butlins. My parents then went mental for me to have swimming lessons. I'm so glad they did. It's such an important skill to teach a child. It's up there with manners and learning to read for me. It's always one of those things where you could imagine the worst happening and the what ifs.

My husband just learned to swim on our last holiday at the age of 32. I told mil it was like child abuse not teaching him!!!

MrsB Olis suggestion is brilliant I think. It could be a nice activity you learn and get confident at together.

Sorry MrsB thread is moving to fast for me. I'm on my phone in the bath, making mooing noises again. Sorry for suggesting rubbish!

steff my plug was huge and vomit inducing, it came out earlier. Was like a big blood stained fanny bogie. traumatised for life

curiousgeorgie Sun 16-Jun-13 21:06:11

I took my DD to Aquatots from 12 weeks, and she absolutely loved it... She has so much water confidence now and we got great underwater shots of her along the way.

I'm definitely going to take this baby too, we do absolutely loads of activities and its by far one of the best.

redwellybluewelly Sun 16-Jun-13 21:19:36

Will try baby swim again with baby welly but DD1 hated it as she couldn't maintain her body temperature and just got too stiff when cold. Not doing the expensive ones though, those days are over! Both girls need to be able to swim well as we spend most our summers messing about in boats, and although they'll be in life jackets I want to prevent any accidents.

Never lost a plug - no idea what it looks like! Sounds delightful though.

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 21:28:17

coffee im hoping the rest of.mine shifts soon, then tge baby, oh didn't look too impressed at me declaring it when I left the bathroom

I think I've spent more time on the gym ball than anywhere else this week, not convinced it's doing anything, still comfy though.

im really hoping we dont have to be induced but if it comes down to it this time next week I should have the baby in my arms, if I can get a hold in over dp grin

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 21:50:43

Ha ha, no worries coffee. My parents' mistake was then waiting 5 years before sending me to swimming lessons. I think if I'd had them ASAP after the pond incident (ironically falling into it while it was being drained so I didn't fall into it and drown!) I'd have been able to get past it.

Ah well, Baby B will be taught as early as possible. :-)

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 21:51:52

Oh, and yay to plug, Steff!

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 22:10:17

I know it can mean nothing but im trying to keep in.high spirits
and really debating drinking the pineapple juice in the fridge, I cant stand tge stuff and am plucking up the courage, the litre bottle has either 6 or 7 pineapples worth of juice in it, just need to pluck up courage to drink it!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 16-Jun-13 22:30:41

Steff what's your actual due date? I'm due in 5 days, but don't have a midwife appt to even discuss induction for another 2 weeks!!!!

AmIGoingMad Sun 16-Jun-13 22:32:08

Coffee it sounds like things are moving in the right direction! And stef too!
Hopefully the same for you hawkmoth which would at least explain the evil migraines.

With swimming we took DS lots when really little then not as much when I was back in work. We've started to take him weekly again now though and will get him to lessons as soon as he's 3 ( I think that's as early as they take them around here). It'll be nice for the 4 of us to go as a family to build their confidence together ( when little miss decides to arrive!). I'm similar to you mrsbri in that I'm not the most confident. Didn't learn to swim til I was gone 10 and whilst I can swim now, I'm not comfortable if I can't put my feet down if I need to and hate the thought of my head being under. I really am determined that my children will be far more water confident as I agree its such an important life skill.

Oo- someone mentioned really dry baby skin. DS was the same and HV suggested using regular olive oil on him. Seemed a little odd at the time but did the trick in no time at all. Just be sure to wear old clothes!

Sounds like everyone's doing really well with resolving feeding issues. Mn is such a great place for advice on things like this. smile

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 22:41:13

sparkle I was due on Tuesday just gone, had a (failed) sweep on Thursday, my cervix is posterior and another sweep.this Tuesday where I'll be 40+7

have mixed my pineapple juice with lemonade, it's minging sad

steff your oh is lucky. I was talking to my dh before going in the bath, so was nudey bums, and felt it on the back of my leg. So of course I had to show him, and describe it in detail. and threatened to throw it.

Pineapples are lovely, go for it. At best, it might work. At worst it might make you poop too much, which might also get you going. Win win? confused

redwelly its not nice. probably not as bad as I'm making out, but I was so shocked!

learnermummy Sun 16-Jun-13 22:56:25

My OH must be weird - he was annoyed I'd flushed the mucous plug without showing him last time shock.

Baby swimming lessons are pricey but bonus is they're in warmer pools so baby doesn't get too cold - our local pool isn't the warmest!

Good luck to those hopefully on the way tonight! Used that calculator MrsBri and that puts my due date 3 days later so hopefully I can get my busy week out of the way first!

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 22:56:33

oh no way! my oh looks at me like hmm when I try to get out of tge bath as it is cause it's narrow and I have to flip over, it's not graceful!

im hoping crippling myself on the bathroom floor may have helped, if it does I'll watch Jeremy Kyle a very intellectual programme in the morning kneeling on.the sofa/ with my hands on.the gym.ball and hope it's that.

I really really dont like pineapple so am having a few mouthful then a jelly worm, am dreading the heartburn aftermath in bed, think I'll dose up on the rennies before I go to bed smile

curiousgeorgie Sun 16-Jun-13 23:06:58

Steff- don't do it to yourself! Pineapple is awful and it so doesn't work, I had so much with my first DD and still went two weeks over and needed a c section! My friend is a doctor and she said its a total myth, you'd have to eat about 50 of them for it to even cause a ripple wink

MrsBri Sun 16-Jun-13 23:14:02

So what's your due date now, learner? I was wondering if you'd used it or not. Fingers crossed for your busy week :-)

My DH would probably be fascinated by the plug too. Men are grim!

And my TMI clear out continues! I wonder how long it needs to continue until it has caught up from being sluggish?!

Oh and Baby B is burrowing hard too. Lots of lightning crotch tonight. Ouch.

Final MW appt tomorrow. She will book me a sweep for a week on Tuesday while I'm there. Scary stuff!

pinkapples Sun 16-Jun-13 23:14:35

I seem to be the font of all questions tonight hehe but when did you all start pooing again after baby it's been 3 days today and nothing yet although I feel I need to so tried and my stitches killed! I even held a pad like I'd read but it didn't do anything

Steffanoid Sun 16-Jun-13 23:19:06

curious im gonna see about putting some orange in it and making it tropical but might just donate it to my mum, the weirdo likes pineapples, it's got tge baby jiggling about so I think he likes it! I heard it was like 5 of them which when this bottle said it had 6 worth in it I thought it was worth a go.
like someone else said it may upset my stomach and help things like curry is supposed to

redwellybluewelly Sun 16-Jun-13 23:40:09

I ate two pineapples and rhe heartburn was horrific afterwards, I think sex was what triggered slow labour though first time round.

Get signed off tomorrow by MWs, need to remember to ask about patches of numbness on my.leg and stomach. Debating taking a card and chocolates into the community MW team ro say thanks for their support

ella0 Mon 17-Jun-13 00:15:10

There's some great advice on here.

Regarding feeding, our baby has always had plenty of wet and dirty nappies (on average 8 dirty nappies a day even though we've been told one every couple of days is still normal for a bf baby, and plenty more wet ones!), so it appeared she was feeding enough, however she was still losing weight (she was still within the acceptable 10% though). I think that may be because she was such a big baby at birth though. She's starting to catch up now though.

I can't wait to take baby swimming!

I was dreading using the loo after giving birth after reading stories on the net. I had a c-section, but had read that it would still be painful. I was pleasantly surprised when I had no pain and it was business as usual the day after having the baby.

We gave a card both to the team at the hospital and our community midwife, as they have all been incredibly supportive and lovely.

AlohaMama Mon 17-Jun-13 00:22:57

pink, I almost think it's the fear that makes it hard to go!! This time, I went within a day, but as soon as I had given birth I started on the prunes. Last time I was given codeine as a pain killer which can cause constipation (I didn't know at the time) and it was terrible. I nearly had to go to hospital to get it sorted sad. This time, I'm eating lots of prunes every day till everything has healed. I don't want to take any chances!!

So, no Father's Day babies today then?

I know this has been said before, but post-natal wardrobe selection is a nightmare. Different size every day and it takes ages to find something that fits and doesn't make you look 4 months pregnant. On the plus side, my spongy-belly is noticeably smaller every day so at least hopefully in a week I'll be back to normal clothes (apart from the mahoosive boobs!).

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 02:10:24

I'm awake feeding think we definitely need an entertainment thread when this is all over see how many of our babies are in. Sync with the forum hehe grin

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 02:37:24

5 minutes! 5 minutes who thinks that is sufficient! Not me! But I'm to tired to be bothered I offered and she refused to go again so now soundly in basket asleep night night world... For now anyway

ginauk84 Mon 17-Jun-13 07:47:11

I love pineapple, usually have it as part of my 5 a day so nothing new for me. I heard it was only if you eat the core it can work and that's only because it probably gives you a funny tummy, the same goes for a spicy curry I guess.

We're on the waiting list for water babies in August, have been for ages so I hope we get in! Hubby will have to take her to start with as I expect I will still be bleeding.

On that front, how bad is the bleeding in reality?

Midwife at 39 weeks on Thursday, she said I could book a sweep for 40 weeks but I don't know whether I will as 9 times out of 10 they just seem to be painful and not work.

Put blackout lining on the curtains yesterday and haven't had any effect as we have curtain poles - thought they might have had some effect but nothing! Really not keen on a blind idea as they can be dangerous, have seen them with the safety clasp but still scares me especially as cot is right under window.

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 08:13:46

I guess it depends in terms of bleeding mines not to bad now literally not even half a pad and I had vaginal delivery with 2nd degree tear

Stitches sore if I do to much walking about buy braved asda yesterday mayb tesco today as completely forgot what I went for grin

Sicky baby at the moment last night was rubbish and washing is in now as she's sicked on sheets and grows!

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 08:21:35

Pink have you been taking lactulose? That combined with bran flakes sprinkled with benefiber and grapes, accompanied by a big glass of orange juice helped me the first time with DS. I was terrified because of third degree tear and agree that the fear didn't help. Getting that first one out the way was quite a milestone! Ate dried apricots supposed to be as good as prunes? Does anyone know?

Bleeding wise I really can't remember but think I went through quite a few packs of pads- agree with whoever it was that said boots ones are the best ( those and Tesco one actually).

Still no signs at all here hmm granted I'm not 39 wks til tomrw and that's on my dodgy scan dates, I'm later on my dates. All those people who kept saying I'd be early have a lot to answer for at the moment- grrrrr!

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 08:28:07

AmI, I feel your pain. Everyone at work was convinced I'd go early. Not much chance of that now though. Boo!

And yes, dried apricots work very well for relieving blockages! I've found that Brussels sprouts also work for some reason. No idea why!

I've taken lactulose the whole way through as well, which doesn't exactly stimulate it just makes it easier to go!

I'm rather tired after getting up just after 6.30 to make bacon sandwiches for DH as we didn't have them yesterday, as he was working all day. I've also sorted the clean washing and done the washing up, so it's time for a little nap now, I think.

Sarah2506 Mon 17-Jun-13 08:41:05

Where has my sleeping girl gone? Awake from 430pm till half midnight, from 730pm onwards screaming. What have I done to break the baby this time? Finally passed out at half midnight and slept till five then refused to drop off again. I blame DH. He kept her up in the afternoon to play and keeps administering daddy cuddles to calm her down. Today is going to be ROUGH.

MadameJ Mon 17-Jun-13 08:41:28

3 nights of what I think are contractions only to materialise into nothing, you would think as this is my 2nd I would know better but clearly not!!! In my defence dd was 7 weeks early and it all happened quickly so I actually feel like a 1st timer!

Maybe something will happen soon??

Steffanoid Mon 17-Jun-13 09:03:02

oh no Sarah! hope toy get your sleepy girl back soon, gonna go drink pineapple juice while alternating between bouncing on.tge ball and cleaning tge floor before and after I get taken out foe lunch, I think I'll call it operation body give me my baby?

Mrs Bri I was convinced I would go early, not sure why. If this lo arrives today or tomorrow I was right, but not looking likely!
MadameJ I've had contractions on and off since tues, still no 'active' labour. Is a quick earlylabour as bad as they say?

MadameJ Mon 17-Jun-13 09:15:09

Littlemiss, my first labour was indeed a difficult one but I was in complete shock the whole way through as there really was no build up and I was 7cm before I even got checked out so I suppose I was quite lucky, it did end up with forceps due to dd being back to back and in an extremely dodgy position, the outcome however was very positive :-)

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 09:15:20

I had myself convinced too, Littlemiss! It's a bugger, isn't it?

I've been told that a fast labour can be quite brutal / traumatic for your body to deal with. I'll go for a nice mid-length labour then please!

Madame, these false starts are all a pain in the arse, aren't they? :-/

We seem to have stalled on the baby front now. I wonder who'll be next? Could be any of us!

Hawkmoth Mon 17-Jun-13 09:16:14

MadameJ, I was SO convinced last night, and this is my third! I couldn't keep still, had to keep walking round with the pain, but then everything stopped. It was all on one side as well, so now that I'm slightly more rational, I'm telling myself it was positioning.

Still not a hundred percent right from my migraines. It's like a kind of sensory bleedthrough where I'm seeing and feeling things that aren't there. All very weird.

learnermummy Mon 17-Jun-13 09:32:09

MrsBri that calculator brings me to Sat 22nd rather than Wed 19th. Have a meeting at school tonight, one on Thurs night, thurs am my son's class is presenting in assembly and Friday Toby's new reception teacher is doing a home visit! Please hang on baby!!

SunnyL Mon 17-Jun-13 09:38:31

Sorry Sarah - i certainly havent swapped my non-sleeping girl for yours. Mine just feeds and feeds and feeds. 8-10.30pm then 12.30-2.30am then 4.30-6.30am then 8.30-9am and back on again now. DH thinks its more for comfort than sustenance and wonders if we should get a dummy. The guidance reckons a month but if she is already latching on wonderfully for the sake of our sanity do we try it??

On the plus side we tried her with a bottle of expressed milk which she took no bother. Unfortunately DH had to wake me after as it wasnt enough to fill her up.

Sarah2506 Mon 17-Jun-13 09:53:18

Sunny I read somewhere that after 45 mins or so it's just for comfort. I got a dummy out last night and she sucked on it like the world was ending. I've just been letting her daytime sleep till she wakes and feed her when she sqwaks. Maybe today I will actually wake her up to feed in the day to try and prevent a rerun of last night. Neighbours probably think we have abandoned or starved her. Or both.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 09:54:19

I have a question, did any of you have sickness before you have birth? Twice now, once on Saturday, once this morning, I've been rather violently sick, no warning, i feel fine in myself! Just wondering if its something I need to tell my midwife about?

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 10:04:07

Sparkle, are your bowel movements loose also? We were told that sickness and diarrhoea are signs of upcoming labour.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 10:10:11

Well it's not constipated that's for sure, been loose for a couple of days, crampy feelings on and off but nothing really noticeable unless I'm focusing on it!!

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 10:12:16

You could be next then!! :-)

I've felt really sick, but not been sick. I am definitely having a clear out too. I reckon half of my baby weight is blockage! :-/

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 10:15:52

That would be rather nice!

Odd thing is I don't feel sick at all, just comes without any warning!!!

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 10:16:27

Sparkle that sounds promising- a few people I know had sickness as their first sign of labour.

Hawkmoth that sounds terrible and the last thing you need right now!

That's some hours of feeding there! I know that we went for the dummy fairly early on with DS and were happy that we did!

I meant to ask earlier too- nipple shields- do you sterilise them like with bottles etc? Thinking about having some in my hospital bag as my destroyed nipples were a large factor in my giving up last time. Would the tommee tippee antibacterial wipes do in hospital in the absence of steriliser as such?!

peppinagiro Mon 17-Jun-13 10:22:41

Hello everyone! Sorry - I've been lurking lazily and nosing through all your posts, but thought it was about time I said hello. My DD is due on 25th, so I still have 8 days to go, but i'm at my wits' end already. This pregnancy has been horrendous - SPD, sickness right through, and that annoying irritable uterus thing that means I've been having contractions since 28 weeks sad it's landed me in hospital twice with them flapping that a baby might be imminent, so I think it's the least she can do to actually get a wriggle on now.

I'm feeling pretty crazy tbh. Am blaming the hormones, but I do feel sorry for DH having to live with me at the moment.

I've been bouncing on my ball, forcing DH to dtd, and walking as much as is possible with a pelvis that's falling apart. Read somewhere that swimming can help - trying to motivate myself to go, failing, feeling guilty for being so lazy.

Right, pity party over. Going to go chug down some more raspberry leaf tea and have a reverse psychology pep talk with baby giro.

Congratulations to all of you whose babies have arrived! X

Sarah2506 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:43:40

AmI I bought a pair beforehand, sterilised them and had them in bag. Thank god. I do think you can go mad with sterilising everything that moves though. As the midwife said, your boobs aren't sterile!

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 10:58:27

Wow that is lots of feeding is that constant for 2 hours or every 2 hours food a certain amount of time?

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 10:58:56

Oh and is there a sure fire way to see if your milka in or no?

Steffanoid Mon 17-Jun-13 11:06:42

giro I bet after all that you'll go over now! grin

my mum is being my pity party and taking me out for lunch, I got her far too excited by telling her I lost a big chunk of plug, I actually thought she was going to scream, think she's more excited than.me!
right gonna get back on the floor rolling back and forward with my gym ball, come on ladies, the eviction notice has been served!

oh re throwing up, I keep heaving if I leave it 20 mins or so between getting up and breakfast or eating, it's meant many biscuits at 3 am so I dont sit heaving in bed!

peppinagiro Mon 17-Jun-13 11:31:48

Ha, yeah I've been living with biscuits by the bed too! Though secretly I'd quite like an excuse to keep that going post-pregnancy....

Have fun with your mum! I've been losing bits of my plug over the last week too, and on Sat we genuinely thought things were kicking off when I got a dodgy stomach and was having contractions, but it all stopped a few hours later sad I called my parents halfway through specifically to tell them nothing was happening, to buy myself a day or two from being bothered by them if I was about to go into labour! Otherwise I have no doubt they'd have been just as het up as your mum smile

rrreow Mon 17-Jun-13 11:38:02

Oh my god. Pretty much non stop feeding last night! 30 minute feeds on an hourly cycle. I am knackered (and he's on the boob again now!).

Re pooing, I went 2 days post birth. I'd been given both codeine and iron so was really worried but had been eating dried apricots since the birth (about 6-8 a day I think) which made it easy. Remember to drink plenty of water. I have a second degree tear and found it helped to wait till you really need to go and then just let your body do it, don't strain.

Re sweeps, mine didn't hurt at all. So it's possible! Fwiw I have a low pain threshold especially when it comes to down there (my smear last year was agony).

My 6 hour labour (DS2) was more traumatic than my 3 hour labour (DS1).

Some stuff about breast feeding that I've experienced:

If you have blocked ducts it can really hurt to feed (the breast itself, but also the nipple). I thought DS had a bad latch on the right side but as soon as my milk supply calmed down a bit the pain went.

A bit of pain is normal while your nipples gets used to things. I mean your nipples haven't had a baby suckling on them 8 hours a day before, it's no surprise that takes a bit of getting used to. It takes practice to get things right, for both mother and baby.

If it continues to hurt, GET HELP!! Not from midwives, but from a proper lactation consultant or breast feeding counsellor. DS1 had tongue tie, feeding was excruciating. I wouldn't have been able to continue if it wasn't for the bf counsellor who came to my house and the tongue tie clinic.

If you can stick with it through the difficult first bit, it's well worth it. Personally I love breast feeding, both the physical and emotional aspects of it. And I'm lazy, I don't think I could do all the bottle stuff all the time, especially in the middle of the night.

However, and i think this is the most important bit that often doesnt get mentioned: Your mental health is more important than any benefit breast milk can offer. If bfing is making you crazy, unhappy, in unbearable pain, unable to love/bond with your baby, then use formula. It's there as an alternative and it's awesome that it exists and gives us a choice.

HappyGoLuckyGirl Mon 17-Jun-13 11:54:01

I'm so jealous of those of you that have or are losing their plug! I've not had the slightest bit, waaa sad

Someone needs to have their baby so all the rest get the idea!

Babybeann Mon 17-Jun-13 13:07:05

happy i havent lost anything either sad 39 weeks tomorrow.

i neeeeeed this baby to come out now i cant sleep at all and tmi but been having a clear out for a while now.

also was going to ask those of you who have had there babies and already have young children, how are your toddlers coping in the night? i worry that when baby comes it will wake up ds. is this the case for you or do they sleep though the crying?

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 13:13:05

I've not lost anything either, ladies. I'm just relying on the fact that you don't actually have to lose anything to go into labour. Would still prefer to see something though!

Babybeann - my 3 yo sleeps through the baby in the night. I did wake up to discover he'd climbed in bed next to me and fallen back to sleep one night though grin DH had to put him back to bed! Equally the 6yo slept through the 3yo when he was first home. I don't think there's cause for worry there smile

Steffanoid Mon 17-Jun-13 13:51:02

am feeling some weird pressure when im moving about, feels like things are really low down if that makes sense, im hoping when I get to the docs tomorrow for the sweep it might help and tge spicy curry I just ate too, the eviction notice has been served!

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 13:58:27

Welcome giro!

Rreow that was very well put! And great tips- thanks!

Babybeann- I'm concerned about sleep for DS too when this little miss comes along. He's still waking once a night on average at the moment anyway but am hoping that all the nighttime noise won't be too much for him. Am generally panicking a bit about how he'll cope with another little person needing us and how I'll cope with two after paternity leave ends if I'm honest!

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 13:59:00

Oo fingers crossed stef!smile

rrreow Mon 17-Jun-13 14:25:41

DS1 sleeps through the crying. However he does seem a bit more emotionally needy since DS2 arrived and sometimes now wakes up in the night calling out for us & needing resettling, whereas he slept through before. I think it's only natural though, big adjustment for him, and hopefully he'll start sleeping through again soon.

Sunbeam18 Mon 17-Jun-13 14:31:48

No signs at all of anything impending here, and due date is tomorrow

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 14:41:47

Someone mentioned using a nipple shield I've just bought one but how do I use it? Nipples are v sore and flat have expressed a few drops to soften them

Also what does the break milk look like when its come in? I can't decide if mines in or not? Breasts. Feel heavy but don't know if that's the nipple problem or the boob

Steffanoid Mon 17-Jun-13 15:12:57

oh dear my mother is now very worried, just had a load more of my show felt a bit funny at tge garden centre, mum hightailed it home with me, thought id wet myself, just more show I think, a lot of it! mums gone very pale and jeeps looking at me weird, she doesn't appreciate me laughing and is convinced my waters are gone, oh has told me to stop picking on her,
I dont think it's anything, just a bit crampy

Pink if your boobs have gone hard and bigger then I'd say your milk is in smile it just looks like semi- or skimmed milk tbh, then as LO feeds it gets fattier (the fat sticks inside you to start with, but as the milk flows it kind of forces the fatty bits out too). Re nipple shields, ideally wash it and sterilise it, then place it over your nipple so that it's right in the middle of the pointy bit (iyswim), latch LO on and see what happens. I used them a lot with my previous 2, and have used them on and off this time for a break when things hurt too much. I like the avent ones fwiw.

Also if you're cracked/bleeding then get some lansinoh, apply it after every feed so that no scabs form - scabs can block the milk flowing, and LO will just suck them off anyway (OUCH!) but the lansinoh stops the scab forming but still lets you heal. You don't have to remove it before feeding, so it's nice and easy to use.

Olimoss Mon 17-Jun-13 15:51:04

Definitely another rec for dried apricots from me. Ate 3-4 every morning for 5 days or so after, pooed easy every time.

Also big yes for the dummy at our place. Finding Joe only wants it to settle, doesn't suck it to get to sleep, spits it out before he actually falls to sleep. Also helps strengthen those sucking and swallowing muscles.

Finally we don't feed Joe to sleep - he wakes, then we feed as he wakes hungry, change him, have a little p,lay and then settle him to sleep again. I felt it a bit of a slippery slope, for me, to feed him to sleep.

He's def going through a growth spurt though, feeding like a demon every 3hrs. Bye bye to our nice regular 4-hardly feeds!

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 15:51:19

I've got some lansinoh and have been using that but scabs still forming sadshe's feeding off the bleeding on at the moment she was screaming have a carton of formula that is in a syringe as I nearly caved but she wouldn't take it

Anyone not on the breast but expressing into bottles? Any ideas whether I could do this for a couple of days to heal nipples?

Olimoss Mon 17-Jun-13 15:51:55

* 4-hrly

melli Mon 17-Jun-13 15:55:26

Hello ladies, thought I would join in the fun. Due today...sweep tommorow. Good luck to you Steff. Oh how I would love a "show" Getting lots of pressure also.

Olimoss Mon 17-Jun-13 16:01:39

Pinkapples - I express all my breastmilk. It's not comfortable but I think prob way less painful than early breast feeding.

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 16:24:46

Good luck Steff :-)

I'm just back from the midwife, Baby B is 1/5 and pushing down hard! Ouchy.

Booked for a sweep a week tomorrow at 40+5. Here's hoping I don't need it!

Steffanoid Mon 17-Jun-13 16:27:21

think my waters broke, off to hops, update when I can

learnermummy Mon 17-Jun-13 16:30:46

Ooh exciting steffanoid, good luck!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 16:32:17

Wow Steff, good luck!! Are you having contractions as well?

peppinagiro Mon 17-Jun-13 16:33:38

How exciting steffanoid!! Good luck! X

forgetmenots Mon 17-Jun-13 16:33:45

Good luck steff! And fingers crossed for no sweep for you MrsBri.

Pinkapples I'm expressing all my milk at the moment (I did try a breast feed earlier and it wasn't quite as bad now they have healed slightly), I basically express after each feed and top up with Aptamil (usually I don't need much formula).

Thanks everyone for being supportive about the bf issue. As I said on my other thread I really didn't expect it to me an emotive issue for me, I've always been quite matter of fact about feeding... But it's become something else and the advice on here was great.

Hawkmoth Mon 17-Jun-13 16:45:02

Good luck Steff!

curiousgeorgie Mon 17-Jun-13 16:55:01

Good luck Steff! Very exciting grin

MrsBri Mon 17-Jun-13 17:08:51

Ooh, hope you get baby soon, Steff :-)

AlohaMama Mon 17-Jun-13 17:12:27

Great news Steffy, sounds like all that bouncing has finally paid off! Good luck.

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 17:15:38

Good luck stef! How exciting! I'm off to find some spicy food now!smile

Mrsbri- could you be next?! Fingers crossed for progress before the sweep!

Coffee hasn't been back on either/ maybe there's something happening there!

Welcome melli!smile

Thanks for the advice re nipple shields too.

And forget its good to hear that you're feeling a bit better on the feeding front.smile

pinkbear82 Mon 17-Jun-13 17:23:49

good luck steff!

had a day of sorting things today - got our appt for Wednesday to make Violet official smile going for both our surnames with mine first. dp and I are engaged and plan to marry but kinda like the idea she has both our surnames - I might actually do the same when we get married as dp is divorced So there has already been a Mrs him - I quite like to be individual!!

fingers crossed for some more arrivals!!

SunnyL Mon 17-Jun-13 17:29:36

Good luck Stef.

Just had the midwife round. Lily is clearly getting enough to eat as she has only lost 5% birth weight and is producing plenty nappies. The midwife had a look at how she is latching on though and thinks that might be the reason we're having to feed for so long. I've not been getting enough boob in her mouth so she's not getting enough milk so is having to feed for longer. She also said to use our common sense re the dummy and the 'guidance' can bugger off. If baby needs a dummy we will know basically. Think we've got quite a good midwife really.

Good luck Steff.
More contractions here, every 4-6 mins, and surprise surprise they have now stopped. Very annoying! Got loads more back and hip ache so hoping they are good signs. Might get the tens out and see how I get on. DH is being very good but starting to annoy me by asking if I have had any more (contractions).
Has anyone's mw performed a sweep or a cervix check before 41 weeks? Got an appt tomorrow and tempted to ask her as I've now been having on off contractions for a week.

SunnyL Mon 17-Jun-13 17:31:13

Ooh also her suggestion to improve chances of baby sleeping in Moses basket was to get a hot water bottle to warm it. It's possibly that by transferring baby from nice warm humans to cold basket is part of the proeblm. Of course you have to take the bottle out of the basket when you put baby in!

redwellybluewelly Mon 17-Jun-13 17:32:51

Good luck steff

I also had night sweats the night my milk came in, and your boobs suddenly change (well mine do). All that comfort sucking stimulates milk production - particularly night feeds - by releasing prolactin. Tis all scientific reasoning! Babies also have mini growth spurts and boost production around 10days, 6 weeks, 4months and six months. The four months nearly broke me last time as DH was away and DD1 fed non stop for four days. Kellymom.com has some great links. I used nipple shields last time for the first few weeks and they were great, sterilised them in a cold water steriliser.

I was discharged from MW today, my scar is healing well but my stomach is still very bruised and swollen. Baby welly has gone from 7lb 6oz last Sunday to 8lb 7oz today so has regained birth weight and then some, so different from failure to thrive label we had for DD1.

rrreow Mon 17-Jun-13 17:53:12

Oohh redwelly that explains last night & today's constant feeding then, today is day 10!

Good luck steff hope things are going well.

Littlemiss I had a sweep at 38+5, midwife very happy to do one at my regular appointment. If your baby isn't ready to come out, it won't work anyway so no harm done. I believe it works in 1 out of 7 cases.

Just got myself an ice lolly at the shop and sat in the park with baby in sling. Blissful!

HappyGoLuckyGirl Mon 17-Jun-13 18:58:35

Ooo, good luck Steff - hope you're on your way to holding your LO.

Littlemiss - I had a sweep last Thursday at 40+2. It was only very slightly uncomfortable, no pain at all. My cervix was soft although slightly posterior and was around 1cm. The sweep didn't work as I'm still pregnant angry

Got another this Thursday then induction date for Sunday 23rd. Hoping he makes an appearance before then, would love to go naturally.

Sunbeam18 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:02:20

Good luck, Steff! Hope this is it for you!
I have sweep booked for 40+2.

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 20:04:40

Great weight gain red!smile

And rreow- which sling are you using? We've got a baby hawk and a Moby wrap from ebay to try. Didn't use one with DS but thought it would be handy with 2 to look after!

Have been really good about sitting as upright as possible for months now with an eye on baby not ending up back to back but I've just noticed how swollen my calves and ankles are. So now I'm sat here with my feet up as I'm really not sure how its physically possible to put your feet up whilst also tilting your hips forward, all with a huge tummy!!!

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 20:05:40

Littlemiss I hope that things get moving for you!

Pink - you can def express and feed that to LO if you want to while you heal, I've done it a fair bit the last couple of weeks, usually in the evening when cluster feeding kicks in - I feed for a while, then DH takes M and I express, for DH to bottle feed it straight to him!

Steff - good luck, hope things are progressing nicely smile

Red - that's brilliant weight gain, wow. M is being weighed on Wednesday for the first time since we were discharged, will be interesting to see how heavy he is now after all the not-gaining-malarky!

Welcome melli too.

AmI - I've been using a Close baby carrier, and because M is so massive I've already moved onto the Ellaroo Mei Tai instead. I had a Moby to try that I borrowed from someone locally but never had the chance - the stretchy material doesn't work now.

M has grown out of his newborn clothes sad I need to pack them all up and get rid but I don't want to! I'll never have a baby this small again sad

pinkapples Mon 17-Jun-13 20:46:12

Ok rue thanks :-) may do feeding in the day and bottles for the evening so dh can help so the next question is do you feed then express straight away from the other breast

learnermummy Mon 17-Jun-13 20:58:34

AmI can you lie on your left side on the sofa - that should help with positioning but also get your legs elevated?

rrreow Mon 17-Jun-13 21:22:44

AmI I have a KariMe. It's taken about 4 uses to really get to grips with how to tie it and make it comfortable, but I'm good with it now and I love it. We had a BabyBjorn for DS1 which I really hated, it gave me back ache. The other day I used the KariMe for about 4-5 hours in total (mostly sitting at my desk & some cooking) and I wasn't uncomfortable. I'm also hoping to try a canvas wrap from a sling library as they're supposed to be even better for weight distribution, but they're rather pricey so want to try before buying.

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 21:56:54

Learner thanks I'll try that tomrw. My legs won't be above my hips but them being at least level with them should help a bit I reckon.

How are you all doing with the sleeping on the left side thing too? I'm trying to mostly but have to switch to the right a few times in the night as my shoulder aches otherwise. It's weird though that sometimes my bump aches when I turn into my right, as if the baby is telling me to turn back! I listen to the baby and think that this could be a sign of things to come!grin

I was going to try a sling library rreow but there's very little of that type thing around here. Looking forward to trying both of the ones I have out and hoping it gives me done hands free time for DS. Especially at bathtime when DH is working away.

I'm having a wobble tonight. Swinging between wanting things to happen right now as am fed up of bejng pregnant, and wanting to be pregnant forever so that I don't have to do birth. Aaargh!

redwellybluewelly Mon 17-Jun-13 21:57:21

We use a close until big enough for a small connecta, from 16months ish I use a custom wrap conversion, I wore DD1 until about seven months pg.

Can recommend sling libraries, often do good cake as well

learnermummy Mon 17-Jun-13 22:24:00

I've bought a new close carrier so hope that will be good for a while. Must get it out of the box to try! Have used an ergo in the past for 4/5m onwards.

AmI, I'm more of a right sided sleeper generally - do try to start on left but always end up on right. Doesn't seem to bother baby though.

Thanks to whoever suggested the antenatal group book, am really enjoying reading it smile.

AmIGoingMad Mon 17-Jun-13 22:31:40

It's probably more down to having a full stomach still when going to bed than baby being bothered I imagine!smile

redwellybluewelly Mon 17-Jun-13 22:46:09

We have a seriously unhappy baby welly tonight, screaming and crying - mucous seems to be bothering her, and I think its too hot as well. Anyway DH is convinced she hates him as she always calms down with me. Poor dh.

HappyGoLuckyGirl Mon 17-Jun-13 23:35:44

Aww your poor DP, bless.

Baby probably just feels calmer when near Mummy.

Pink - depends! M normally has a long sleep in the morning from abt 9.30am so I try and express abt 10.30ish and store that, then express in the evening while DH gives him the morning lot.

With dd I used to express one side at 7am as she always woke up at 7.30 like clockwork, and she'd them feed on the other side. That worked brilliantly smile

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 04:44:49

Well that was successful grin after 4 feeds half an hour apart scabby and bleeding nipples last night I have just fed Theiya 4.25am wake up a bottle of expressed breast milk which she drank all of beautifully and now fast asleep in under 15 minutes no pain and no crying gringrin

Think I may express all of it and do it in bottles as that was so much easier and expressing is nowhere near as painful as she is.... Might start to enjoy feeding

AlohaMama Tue 18-Jun-13 06:42:55

sounds good pink. Maybe once you have a chance to recover and heal you could mix it up. I have to say, after doing alot of pumping with ds due to going having to work at 12 weeks, I got fed up of the faff of it, even with a double electric. bf-ing seemed so much easier- no washing up for one grin. I expect this time to do a bit of both, thankfully after 1 week it's hurting a lot less now, my nipples must have toughened up!

How is everyone with a toddler and a newborn getting on? I'm worried that the baby is not getting as good naps as she should as she seems to be sensitive to noise but I don't really want to leave her in another room. Trying to get a 2 year old boy to play quietly is not that easy, especial with metal trains and cars and wooden floors. On the plus side it does mean she is awake more to feed so hopefully will gain weight quickly. Oh and ds has developed a cold out of nowhere, so also having to try to stop him coughing all over her.

MrsBri Tue 18-Jun-13 08:01:38

Aloha, any good house news over there? I hope it has sold.

And we need news from Steff and coffee now! We need more babies. :-)

No movement from Baby B overnight, sadly. I think he's having far too much fun within. We've just spent the last hour playing with him and tickling his feet! He typically got a bit excited and gave himself hiccups for a while. Come out, Baby B, we really want to meet you now :-)

We've also just tried the, ummm, more efficient method of home induction too. Nice treat for DH. This had better work!

Just wondering how long I have to leave it before eating to ensure it is ingested properly?! Nice. :-/

Sarah2506 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:26:19

Have to say MrsBri that's put me right off my bran flakes:-)

Question- does anyone else feed and then settle back to listen to what can be an hour of grunting, choking noises? She sounds really distressed but I'm sure she isn't. We burp her but that doesn't help. She's such a gaspy feeder- loads of air ingested. Wonder if expressed milk would be better??

pinkbear82 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:37:22

Sarah have you tried infacol - it's helped loads here. I don't use it every feed but certainly by the evening we find it helpful in releasing the wind, especially as she gets more tired and just wants to sleep.

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 08:53:38

Sometimes Sarah I do not so much last night hehe but that was expressed I'm sat expressing now 2.5oz in 10 mins woohoo! grin That's just one boob too so will have enough for two feeds after this sitting grin happy mummy

In other news she had a newborn photo shoot last night awwww the photos are amazing there are some on Facebook but she's bringing me a cd later woohoo if you want to see (I never could get on the secret page) go to red rabbit photography she's the 4 days old newborn :-)

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 08:54:25

Oh and aloha that is the plan to go back to breasts once they've healed grin

Mawgatron Tue 18-Jun-13 08:59:02

Right, here we go for a mammoth post after FINALLY catching up with the thread so far. This will be probably all out of order in terms of the conversation but I will try and plough through all of the bits and pieces as I remember them...

Lets do the rank bits first... Plugs. I had a tiny bit on Wednesday morn, then a quite a bit at about 2.30 in the morning on wed night/thurs morning. Lost the rest completely in the bath when I was labouring in the bath in the hospital. It was MASSIVE and rank, got my mum to fish it out of the bath as I was high on g+a and couldn't handle it floating about. It was sitting in a jug on the edge of the bath when DH arrived, and the look on his face was pretty priceless tbh!

Poo. Baby Baxter was born late thurs/early fri morning. I did my first poo yesterday morning. Another fan of apricots and prunes and generally lots of fruit and nuts. Pressed a pad against my stitches and it was fine. I think the fear of it was worse than the actually doing of it, although trying to wipe around my enormous piles proved a little challenging. Like my friend said, I feel a little bit like a baboon at the moment. Sort of linked to this, I think it helped that I was completely empty- someone was asking about being violently sick during labour (Which I was), and could barely eat anything during my hosp stay.

How are everyone's stitches doing? Mine are pretty stingy, and I think they may be getting a little more painful. They have been checked three times since fri, and they have said they are fine but I am so worried about infection. It will make things so much easier once I can sit and stand without wincing so much, particularly as I am doing the lions share of everything a s DH has to work.

Think we have sorted how to settle Bax in a carry cot, whoever it was who mentioned the hot water bottle, it so works. Mum was hanging out with me tomorrow and I had said when she arrived that I was determined to try and get him settling in a cot so I could actually start to get on with things. We managed to get a bit of a routine going- change him, strip him down to his nappy. Fill mini hot water bottle half with cool water, had with boiling so it is moderately warm, put that in cot under blanket/ in sleep sack. Feed little man. This takes fucking ages as he gets so contented that he dozes off all the time! Check nappy, put a little top on him and give him a cuddle/wind. Pop him in cot and bingo. 2 hoursish of feeling human again...

Right, gonna have some breakfast, will return for more later (and hopefully to some new arrivals! Eeeeeeep!)

AlohaMama Tue 18-Jun-13 09:00:00

Funny you should ask about the house .MrsBri. I was all set to go to bed at 8, but we seem to be involved in a bidding war! Open house went great, we had 6 offers and now two are trying to outbid, but I think it's all settled now so I can finally go to sleep till I have to wake up in an hour to feed dd

On other good news, the ridiculous rock hard boobs have finally settled down a bit. The relief!

MrsBri Tue 18-Jun-13 09:05:52

That's good news, Aloha. :-) What date do you move here?

And it didn't do much for me to be honest, Sarah! But desperate times. I'm envious of you ELCS bunch who didn't have to get to being this pregnant! :-)

ginauk84 Tue 18-Jun-13 09:06:06

Hubby and I DTD last night and soon after I was getting severe crampings. I realised I wasn't sure what was happening and how do I know what a conraction feels like? I did the old google thing and it seems like it really varies and my 'symptoms' seemed to tie in with some of the descriptions. Lasted a good couple of hours off and on and have woken up this morning but nothing. So am not sure?

Felt like really painful period cramps/needing a poo with lower back pain, also felt really sick and almost was a few times. They seemed to last varying lengths of time from 10-30seconds and were probably varying between 5-10mins apart - hubby said too frequent for start of labour? So I really don't know, haven't had Braxton hicks before but these were painful. I sat on my ball a bit, had a walk round and then lay down in bed. Also bump didn't seem up go tight really. I see midwife Thursday so will ask her but just wondered what your contractions felt like?

Olimoss Tue 18-Jun-13 09:19:05

I did have an elective CS but I was also 39+4 so pretty damn close to EDD abd getting lots of the uncomfortable things you're all describing!! The trace they put on prior to section actually showed mild contractions so they said I was only having him a day or do earlier than he'd have come anyway.

I was just thinking actually that although I really didn't enjoy being pregnant I do kind if miss my big belly, a d J being all safe inside it. I'll never admit that to anyone in real life obv!!

Here's good wishes and speediness to all you on the verge of or waiting for labour....

MrsBri Tue 18-Jun-13 09:32:32

Goodness, Oli, I didn't realise they'd let you go that close.

I surprised they don't book them earlier than that. I think they do here.

It must be a strange feeling once they're no longer within!

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 09:39:11

Maw baby theiah was born Thursday to and my stitches are starting to hurt more they were ok but are now like you say they are starting to hurt

Had my first poo yesterday and I agree again with the fear of it more than doing it

Mawgatron Tue 18-Jun-13 09:45:34

Obviously I meant yesterday, not tomorrow!

Mawgatron Tue 18-Jun-13 09:54:28

Gina, that sounds like what mine was like. Started as lower back pain, then moved round the front, turning into period type twinges. These got progressively more painful as the eve progressed. Hopefully things are getting started for you.

Pink, I wonder if pooing has aggravated them a little? I didn't strain but obviously movement may have had an impact? Also, I was a little more mobile yesterday so that may have pulled them about a bit.

Right, so feeding. Starting to be a little more painful during latch but like someone says, they have gone through a bit of a bruising since thurs. got me lansinoh with me at all times and I do have a manual pump if things get desperate!

Mil just arrived so will continue later!

redwellybluewelly Tue 18-Jun-13 09:56:39

Oli I was given a planned section at 39+4 by their dates and was also having signs of imminent labour so I guess its not that unusual?

The 39th week is the best week for babies to come out by elective (as long as there are no other issues) as lungs are most developed and weight should be pretty good. I was given option to wait for natural labour until 41weeks and if no sign to have a planned CS then but we opted out of that because of other concerns.

learnermummy Tue 18-Jun-13 10:13:32

My (corrected) due date is tomorrow and I've run out of raspberry leaf tablets today hmm. Tesco only had a blend of tea containing 50 percent leaf so I guess I'll have to drink lots of that as nearest holland & Barrett is 10 miles away and I can't be bothered!

MrsBri Tue 18-Jun-13 10:24:13

My niece was born by ELCS at 37 weeks and was 8lb 14oz! God lnows how big she would have been at 40 weeks. And given that 37 weeks is classed as full term, I'm still surprised that they leave it so long.

But all hospitals are different. Even hospitals within the same Trust round here have different policies for everything, including sweeps, induction, painkillers during birth and how long they leave you after your waters break before induction. So it doesn't surprise me if there are discrepancies around the country about ELCS dates too!

And the 39th week is from 38 weeks, as after that date you're in your 39th week.

I would think it's still psychologically different as at least you have an end date to focus on, rather than the 'when on earth is this baby coming?!' of waiting for natural labour!

pinkbear82 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:01:11

ladies 're stitches - my mw did say as you heal more the stitches can get tighter and start to 'pull' a little more. she said if I found it got too bad theyeels could snip a couple to ease the strain a little - luckily mine all seem to have settled and have been much better since about day 8 post birth. but something to keep in mind or bring up with mw if you find it gets too much!

had problems with violet latching onto left boob yesterday - she seemed to hate it! but think we have over come it during the night. thankfully.
hv coming tomorrow so will see how much weight she's gained (its been 8 days since last weigh, so I'd imagine we'll see a nice improvement!)

SunnyL Tue 18-Jun-13 11:33:23

Had a rather rough night last night which involved me wandering round the village in my pj's at midnight crying. I was so full of hope that the advice the midwife gave me would work and when they didn't I had a bit of a melt down so DH said he'd take her for a walk in the pram. Cue me falling asleep then waking up feeling so guilty that I'd banished my baby and DH so went off wandering round the village in my pj's trying to find them.

So we still can't get her to sleep in the Moses basket. Something that did work though was DH feeding her a bottle of expressed milk - she went straight to sleep after it. When it's me she's suckling at the boob for hours before she drops off which is killing me. Going to pump like crazy today andgive up on the Moses basket. Instead we're going to try the crib. Thank god DH is here with me though - couldn't have coped without him.

redwellybluewelly Tue 18-Jun-13 11:38:40

I'd have given just about anything (except a healthy baby) to have had this second child naturally, I hated having a CS and ironically it was the mistakes of professionals that meant I had to.

I'm genuinely very upset that CS ladies are seen to have it easier, it seems that attitude still exists and so I bid you adieu because quite honestly having been to hell and back over my first daughters birth and also my second I can do without it.

rrreow Tue 18-Jun-13 11:43:49

I think 37 is only classed as term if the baby makes an appearance of its own accord. DS2 spontaneous labour at 38+6 vs DS1 induced labour at 38+1 and there was a world of difference between them. DS1 was very skinny, sleepy, trouble latching, didn't feed for first 24 hours. As if he just wasn't ready to be born yet. DS2 looked more healthy not just skin & bones, latched by himself, very alert from day 1 and has a much stronger cry. Makes me feel sorry for DS1, especially knowing what I know now about being able to decline an induction.

My stitches started to hurt a few days after as well. It's when the skin starts to heal so it gets all tight around the stitches. Day 11 now and I think they're starting to dissolve as it's incredibly itchy now!

rrreow Tue 18-Jun-13 11:49:45

Sunny have you considered co-sleeping? Or was it you who mentioned DP smoking? We co-slept with DS1 and this time we didn't even bother buying a crib. Apart from the growth spurt feeding the other night I actually feel I'm getting enough sleep as DS2 is only awake to feed. It makes all the difference to your mental state of mind when you've had adequate sleep.

learnermummy Tue 18-Jun-13 11:50:55

Red I'm sure no one is suggesting CS mums have it easier, I know it would be my worst possible outcome. Hope your baby girl starts to settle with your DH - have you tried stuffing a muslin in your bra then giving to him so he smells like you?

Sunny sound like an awful night hmm. Does baby wake up if you break the latch with your finger after a decent feeding time? Or break latch and replace with a clean finger for a few minutes to settle?

SunnyL Tue 18-Jun-13 12:03:15

We'd been trying to avoid co-sleeping as DH works shifts so if he gets in at 3am we'd like to have baby in her crib. However I'm swiftly coming to the conclusion that what we would like can be worlds away from what baby would like. I'm really struggling to sleep with her in the same bed though as she just wants to suckle on me for hours. We tried a dummy last night - worked for about 10 mins then would be spat out with a fury. She sleeps lovely on DH's chest though. We're tending towards me doing the first 3 hours, then DH taking over so I can sleep and then me taking back over.

kiwi5 Tue 18-Jun-13 12:26:33

redwelly- i think cs is a way harder route. u have just had MAJOR abdo surgery on top of carrying a baby for 9 months and then have to deal with trauma of surgery plus the whole nrwborn stuff and general family life. i really hope that u realise that u r a rock star and dont feel disheartenef by comments. take it as easy as u can. very best wishes x

Withalittlesparkle Tue 18-Jun-13 13:01:17

I've only had a quick read back but I don't think anyone was suggesting that CS was an easier route, just a very different experience!

Natural births can be difficult too, everyone's experience is completely unique, it's important to accept that

AmIGoingMad Tue 18-Jun-13 14:06:26

Oh sunny I hope you have a better night tonight!

Which pumps are you ladies using?

I think that both cs and 'natural' birth have their positives and negatives which differ for everyone depending on their personal circumstances, and I'm sure that the only positive being referred to there was having a more specific end date in sight, certainly not that it's the easier option.

With the stitches I found last time that daily baths with either salt or tea tree oil in we're great. I also found witch hazel stored in fridge and then applied to pad to wear in your knickers very effective in healing and helpful in keeping more comfortable. I also used the wet toilet wipes for the first couple of poos. Please though do not flush! Put them in nappy sack and dispose of with nappy. Slightly grim but very helpful and gentler on you than toilet tissue. ( I flushed them for first two days and we had major toilet blockage incident that we could quite frankly have done without at that point!)

AmI - my pump is an Ameda Lactaline, it's great - the same technology as hospital breast pumps use and SO much quieter than the Medela one I had before (mini electric). I've used the Avent manual one too, which I found pretty good but I was perma-pumping for DS1 and it just didn't cut it, I was getting RSI from using it every 3 hours day and night.

rrreow Tue 18-Jun-13 14:41:50

I've got the Avent electric which also converts to manual. It works really well for me. Agree with Rue the Medela Mini sounds like it's going to take off grin Also that one just couldn't get the milk out for me (and I have no problem with the Avent, could get 125ml in 10-15 mins with DS1, haven't tried yet this time). Horses for courses.

ginauk84 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:59:22

No I don't think CS is an easy option at all, would be my worst possible outcome also as I want to be myself again as soon as she's here and would hate the recovery period after a CS. Think hubby would faint if I had one too lol!

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 15:03:56

I've got a avent electric to and its great can get 2/3oz every 10 mins so enough for a feed in 10 mins

arlandria666 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:48:59

wahoooo finally discharged from the midwife Elliott is 6lb now, 6 oz more than birth weight and 9 oz more than he was last week! such a relief!
i haven't got anything to compare my c section with as Elliott is my first but the recovery was much better than i thought it was going to be (not saying it was easy by any means)
i hired an electric pump after struggling with manuel its the ameda lactaline be sad when i have to give it back

Sarah2506 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:53:50

red I took the comments simply to mean that it must be nice to have the certainty over the date. I personally did like that aspect of it- glossing over the fact they actually only confirmed mine the day before! I've never thought of it as an easy option. My personal experience was that the first 24 hours were rough and now I have some pain every day, contrasted with natural birth ladies who have it all front loaded and then less after the event- massive generalisation I know, but probably true of straightforward births with no complications.

I hope you don't take it to heart and leave the forum. I feel like I know those of you who have been posting for months and it would be a shame for you to leave us now as we get past the births and the early days and firmly into discussions of wee, poo, nipple ache and sleeplessness:-)

AmIGoingMad Tue 18-Jun-13 16:47:40

That's great news arlandria!

And thanks for the pump recommendations! smile

No news from stef or coffee? Hopefully they'll be enjoying newborn hugs!smile

Hawkmoth Tue 18-Jun-13 17:18:42

Time for a hot curry...

curiousgeorgie Tue 18-Jun-13 17:43:01

I'm sitting now sniffing clary sage and debating massaging my bump with it.

Anyone know anything about Black Cohosh? A friend has bought it for me...

learnermummy Tue 18-Jun-13 17:48:27

I've been massaging my bump with diluted clary sage at night. Not heard of black cohosh

Steffanoid Tue 18-Jun-13 17:54:53

ok, hi guys, thanks for all tge god luck messages, I'll try to explain everything thats happened in tge last 24 hours while om high on drugs!

so my waters did go at 3:40 yesterday, came to triage and there was a tiny bit of meconiun in tge pad but thats just cause of his maturity, I however had protein in my pee and high BP, so they sent bloods off, contractions were coming, got assessed and they said I was 2 cm but were gonna keep me in cause they were getting stronger, ended up till 4 am with paracetamol and codine, had a shot of morphine stuff, which gave me 2 hours of sleep cause it's an opiate, oh had gone home at about half 12 cause I was on the induction bay, que lots of horrid contractions and oh came back for half 8 when they were ramping back up,i had been for a bath, and had more codine and paracetamol, got to 4 cm, o came through to labour ward, being constantly monitored cause of the BP and protein,

got some.lovely gas and air and more of tge morphine injection, got to 9 cm in a short space of time, gotvhooked into everything, saline, magnesium, cathetar epidural etc

because of my BP tgey actually suggested that it would be. better for me with tge epidural as it can help keep.it down, am fully dilated, waiting to push, cant feel a thing, but should meet my boy in.the next couple of hours grin

Steffanoid Tue 18-Jun-13 17:56:55

sorry about typos and nonsensical sentences, think im rather loopy on drugs

pinkbear82 Tue 18-Jun-13 18:00:40

wow steff! high on anything and u make perfect sense! hoping u are now pushing and are soon enjoying snuggles.

HappyGoLuckyGirl Tue 18-Jun-13 18:43:41

Ooo...now that is what you call a live update! Hope all is going well, good luck!

Sunbeam18 Tue 18-Jun-13 18:52:38

Fantastic, Steff - our first update from the heart of things! Sounds like you are doing great. You will be stealing my due date - jealous! X

ginauk84 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:08:48

My babycenter app says this about cohosh:

Blue cohosh (Caulophyllum thalictroides) and black cohosh (Cimicifuga racemosus) are herbs which are thought by some to be useful in bringing on labour. However, we can't be sure that they are safe to use, or that they are effective.

Blue cohosh, in particular, has been linked with severe complications for the baby at birth.

Given that there is a question mark hanging over them, you may decide that it is better to steer clear of these herbs entirely.

learnermummy Tue 18-Jun-13 19:29:34

Wow exciting Steffanoid good luck x

AmIGoingMad Tue 18-Jun-13 19:49:09

Oh my goodness stef! That's certainly a live update! I hope you're cuddling baby by now! Good luck!smile

massagegirl Tue 18-Jun-13 20:08:31

Good luck steff!
That's a shame red, I've found this a supportive group and don't think anyone thinks cs is easy option. Think it was more it would nice to have a date when baby is coming rather than waiting for due date not anything to do with cs being easier!

peppinagiro Tue 18-Jun-13 20:26:40

Wow, so impressed that Steff managed to put such a lucid update together right in the thick of labour! Good luck, and hope your little one gets here safely! X

forgetmenots Tue 18-Jun-13 20:35:40

Oh steff, good luck, wow that you were able to update from the labour suite!! Hope you're enjoying snuggles by now

Good luck steff!

Mawgatron Tue 18-Jun-13 21:38:57

Sunny, Baxter hates the Moses basket too but he settles really well in our carry cot which is fine for overnight sleeping. It might be worth a try if you have one?

Impressed with your dedication to the thread steff, at nine cm, all I was capable of was demanding more drugs and shouting 'I'm gonna poo!!' repeatedly! Hope you are snuggling now, it's the most amazing feeling!

Another milestone today- I have left the house! Just a quick 10 min walk to boots with DH and tiny baby for nipple cream, maternity pads and apricots but get, I got to put real clothes on and everything! It has also meant that I can sort out my breast feeding bags. One for bedroom, one for lounge. I have out everything I need in them so I don't have to fuck about moving stuff from room to room, or sitting down and realising I don't have something. In each bag I have put the following: lansinoh, paracetamol, ibuprofen, chewable vit c, dried apricots, nuts and raisins, pen and paper, nipple leakage pads. Sorted!

Have breast feeders out there tried Savoy cabbage yet? Oh my, it is heaven!! My poor nips have taken an utter beating since Friday, but mum bought me some nipple shields so I may give those a go tomorrow.

Stitches feel a bit better today, although they bled a little after my jaunt into town. Midwife coming tomorrow for heel prick test so I will ask her to check them out...

Right, going to get a couple of hours kip till this feeding monster wakes up again.

curiousgeorgie Tue 18-Jun-13 21:54:43

Steff you're amazing providing a 9cm update!!

Hope you're cuddling your little one right now smile I'm eagerly awaiting an update!

AmIGoingMad Tue 18-Jun-13 22:38:21

Off to try to sleep now and hoping stef has babe in arms!

Have had one or two cramps feelings but nothing to write home about.

AmIGoingMad Tue 18-Jun-13 22:38:21

Off to try to sleep now and hoping stef has babe in arms!

Have had one or two cramps feelings but nothing to write home about.

pinkapples Tue 18-Jun-13 23:08:06

Yup I've tried the cabbage I got white cabbage tho although do have a savoy in the fridge grin

Have to say a day of expressing and my nipples are starting to look and feel normal still tend but much better will express for a couple more days then make the decision but this seems to be working well just need to express every couple of hours Theiah's been a pickle tonight taking 2/3oz every 2 hours ish maybe 2 and a half if I'm lucky but earlier she went 5 hours hmmm not sure what's going on!

Nothing planned for tomorrow just a little walk with hubby and dogs probably grin then the in laws on Thursday

Can't wait for news on some more tiny babies being born tonight :-) as not heard from a couple of people in a while

MadameJ Tue 18-Jun-13 23:18:11

Good luck Stef (& anyone else still waiting) im having lots of pains tonight but it seems to be from movement rather than anything else, I thought babies were supposed to become quieter but maybe this baby wasnt listening as his kicks are actually taking my breath away tonight!!
I was hoping for some sleep tonight but its not looking likely again but hey ho at least im getting some practice in for all the night feeds :-)

AlohaMama Wed 19-Jun-13 00:21:33

Wow Steff I can't believe you are able to update us mid-labour!! Hope you've got your little baby in your arms now.

Sorry for those of you all waiting and bored...won't be long now! I'm impressed by some of the measures some of you are going to to get things going...MrsBri hmm

SunnyL Wed 19-Jun-13 04:50:43

Oooh Steff - cant believe you have the presence of mind to post an update from the delivery suite. Thats dedication to the cause!

Have had 4.5hrs sleep tonight and i feel fantastic! Expressed yesterday which meant DH could do a feed and she sleelps wonderfully for him. Gave up completely on the moses basket for now at night. Will continue trying to get her to use it in the daytime - she slept in it for 2 hrs yesterdaydaytime - i have photographic evidence on facebook!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 19-Jun-13 07:28:40

Still no sign of baby! Two days to go.

How many of you that went in to spontaneous labour were early? I love a good statistic!!

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 08:30:52

Morning all. MrsBri's been quiet - maybe the 'ingestion' method of home induction was successful!

AmIGoingMad Wed 19-Jun-13 08:39:59

Hi all! Glad you had a better night sunny!

Still nothing here!

Hope mrsbri is ok?

I'm having problem with the mumsnet app at the moment so might be a bit quieter than normal today. I need to get it fixed!

peppinagiro Wed 19-Jun-13 08:49:07

Still nothing here either sad also, one of my NCT group just gazumped me on my baby name. Feeling a bit (unreasonably, I know) miffed.

Off to try some acupuncture later this morning to try and kickstart labour. Desperate times...

Can't wait to hear about steff's little bundle! X

Withalittlesparkle Wed 19-Jun-13 09:03:56

Pep will you not use the same name? We've had our name picked out since before we conceived so we will be using it whether someone beats us to it or not

Mawgatron Wed 19-Jun-13 09:09:16

All quiet on the steff front so I am hoping she is 'relaxing' and recovering with her lovely little bubba.

Bloody hell, my smugness re breastfeeding is slowly dissipating- hello latch on pain!!! Going to bust out the nipple shields today and see if that helps.

Baxter slept for about 3 and a half hours straight yesterday eve! DH and I were able to eat dinner, watch tv and get into bed and have a cuddle and a conversation! We almost felt normal! And he only woke once in the night but oh my, it was a beast! He was up at one, and finally went to sleep again at 4.30 after 3 nappy changes and 4 pretty much back to back feeds off my poor nips. I think that's why they are so painful. Managed to get another 2 hrs sleep after that though so not feeling too horrendous.

First day on my own today. Having the day five checks at some point so I will get her to check my stitches. I know they weigh him and do the heel prick but is there anything else they do?

Friend is dropping off 2 slings for me today as well which is good as I suspect they will be a lot less of a chore than getting a pram up every time I want to nip out for milk...

Any sign of red? Feel bad for her, I am sure no one meant to upset her, and I certainly feel lucky not to have had a cs. She is prob really finding this hard and could do with the support from this thread more than most! sad

peppinagiro Wed 19-Jun-13 09:13:49

Withalittlesparkle - yeah, we're still going to use it. It's not like it's a really close family member or my best friend or anything, and they won't be in the same school or nursery. So I know logically it doesn't matter, but pregnancy hormones sent me into a bit of a tailspin about it. Even the middle name is nearly the same, and the same NN! Feel like I should apologise to her when we announce the name tho, and explain that we've had it picked for months and were definitely not copying her...

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 09:41:50

AmI my mumsnet app isn't working today either, wonder if there's a problem.

Peppinagiro, I've had 4 acupuncture sessions so far. Am 40 weeks today!

Babybeann Wed 19-Jun-13 09:54:19

wow steff thats dedication!! hope your enjoying lovely cuddles smile

still nothing here. had some cramping last night so got bouncing while eating a HOT curry and.... nothing ;(

starting to feel i will be pregnant forever.
any movement baby makes is so painful like shes trying to get out.
ds is teeting so waking up a few times a night. poor babe his gums are so sore and he just wants cuddles.

anyone eles due 25th and getting very tired of waiting?

peppinagiro Wed 19-Jun-13 10:11:55

Babybeann - yep, 25th is my due date too sad so, so, so sick of waiting now. Think it would be easier if I didnt feel so constantly hounded by family and friends texting/calling/'happening' to find themselves at a loss near my house. I know they mean well, want to see if she's on her way and probably think I need the company, but actually I'm grumpy and antisocial, want to be left alone, and they're making me feel like a watched pot! If one more person sends me a jovial 'have you popped yet?' I might actually lose it.

And learnermummy - don't tell me that! Maybe I'll ask her to use extra needles just to be sure the baby really gets the message ;)

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 10:19:02

Peppinagiro, I've not had an acupuncture induction yet, just the birth prep type, which gets slightly more vigourous each week. It's supposed to make labour easier. Had it last time and although was v late, labour was v quick and easy!

pinkapples Wed 19-Jun-13 10:21:04

No news is good news on the steff front :-) hopefully far to busy cuddling to update

Exclusively expressing is going well although im thinking I need to get a double pump may speed up the process a little grin just had a shower and am now sitting down for my 2nd express of the day I think every 2 hours ish should do it very time consuming tho

Not sure how my nipples feel about the whole thing I wonder how long they take to heal hmmm hopefully the expressing isn't doing to much more damage

It does seem like the ladies still pregnant are pulling out all the stops to get their babies out good luck girls hopefully it'll start to work soon brewanyone?

SunnyL Wed 19-Jun-13 10:23:02

Mawg - the heel prick and weighing was the major highlights of my 5 day visit. Actually my midwife also gave me some useful tips on breast feeding and generally made DH and me feel like we were the most amazing parents in the world because we'd walked the dog and done some ironing that day.

We started with the sling yesterday and it was amazing. Once I got over the feeling that I was going to drop her because it wasn't done tight enough (it was I was just a panicky mummy) . We went to the post office, walked the dog, cooked the dinner and played on the Internet in ours!

Steffanoid Wed 19-Jun-13 10:23:14

hey guys, things really slowed off at 9/10 cm, he decided coming out wasn't a good idea, my BP was high and was on a magnesium drip, fluids, had tge epidural cause they said it would be good for my BP, he decided out wasn't a good idea so ended up on hormone drip too! gave me contractions but nothing really, on call doc last night said tge drip being ramped up probably would do nothing and id end up having the emcs,
so we eleccted for it, baby Ethan was born. at 2;37 19th June 2013 weighing 10lb 1oz! hes gorgeous
im sat in a bed with high temp and a bit infected, I blame the 4 drip sites, catheter and multiple spots they took blood from!
have had no sleep so gonna try for some now

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 10:27:01

Congratulations Steff, sounds like you had a bit of a time of it. Hope you're feeling better soon. Love the name smile flowers.

Babybeann Wed 19-Jun-13 10:43:03

congratulations steff you must be so happy its all over and have a beautiful healthy baby boy.

pep- im with you on the text/calling/drop ins/emails and every other form of comunitation getting very boring. i get a call from my mum everyday at the same time to 'check' im still pregnant!!! considering she has to watch ds whem the time comes you would think she'd no. she calls it her welfair check!!! i call it pissing annoying.
have midwife later going to beg for a sweep!!

Hawkmoth Wed 19-Jun-13 10:43:32

Congratulations Steff, but sounds like quite an ordeal. Love the name. Hope you're recovering well and going to be looked after.

massagegirl Wed 19-Jun-13 10:47:39

Congrats steff!
I second the greatness of a sling... Thea slept loads in hers yesterday and meant i could actually do stuff around the house.

peppinagiro Wed 19-Jun-13 10:55:30

Congratulations Steff! Though so so sorry you got put through such a horrid ordeal. Ethan is a beautiful name and sounds like a lovely chubby little thing! Hope you manage to get some rest.

Babybeann - glad it's not just me smile I genuinely think my parents must suspect I'm going to have the baby and hide her until she's 5 or something. Though they may have a point, as my DH did jokingly say we weren't going to tell them when she was born, and teach her to lie about her bday, just because they were all being so sodding annoying and pestery.

And i had no idea that you could get acupuncture to prep you for labour! What a good idea. Hope it works for you learnermummy x

AmI - app now working smile

Steff - congratulations on baby Ethan grin

M got weighed this morning, he's 5 weeks tomorrow and now weighs 11lbs 8oz / 5.22 kgs. Little chubber grin lovely and sunny here so we're spending the day outside when possible.

SunnyL Wed 19-Jun-13 13:02:59

Thought I'd share my shock face with you. Just did the whole bra measurement thing that's on another thread. They're suggesting I need a 34GG!! FRICKING heck. Is there even enough cotton in the world to cover these bad boys? Course it does explain why the 34F in mothercare didn't fit the other day. I came out grumbling that they clearly make small bras in mothercare. No - they don't but my baby makes mahoosive boobs!

pinkbear82 Wed 19-Jun-13 13:05:34

congrats steff - hope you are now resting up.

just had health visitor round - violet has put back on the weight she lost and more! she's now 6lb11oz so very pleased with her.

Mawgatron Wed 19-Jun-13 13:22:42

YAY STEFF! Sorry it was so traumatic, wishing you a speedy recovery, but I but meeting your little man takes the edge off how awful you must be feeling wink

Baxter has been weighed, he only lost 150g so he knkw weighs 7lb 11. He was really bdave for his heel prick, very proud of him. Stitches are fine, no infection and they actually feel a lot better today. Also, she had a look at me getting him on the boob, and it was the way I was getting him on that caused the pain. She showed me how to do it properly and it hurt loads less and he can hopefully get milk more easily and therefore feed for less long each time! Over the moon!

Have managed to do washing, put shopping delivery away, have a shower and eat nice food all on my own! I feel like superwoman!!

Hole you all have as great a day as me!

AmIGoingMad Wed 19-Jun-13 13:47:34

Well done you stef! So happy that you've now got your gorgeous boy here safe and sound after such an outing too! Love the name too (not at all biased!). Get as much rest as you can now!smile

Baby and pep- another one due on 25 th here! And another one getting those textshmm I know people are being nice but its bugging me! Mw said they usually wait til 41 wks for sweep here but as I have consultant appt next wk on the thurs she's not sure if they'll decide to do it then anyway. One friend had her sweep at 40+2 though so not sure there's any rhyme or reason to it! Fingers crossed something happens this week!

Maw it sounds like you've got this motherhood thing sorted! Well done you!smile

Yey for app working again!smile

melli Wed 19-Jun-13 14:53:57

Nice to read about all these babies and mums getting into.the swing of feeding, and weight gain. Well done steff, having just joined the thread I didn't expect to get a live labour update, hope you heal well and get some of the rest you need. Well my sweep went well. Bishops score is 6...and today there has been the kiss of plug/show. Not getting too excited as I know the sweep can merely dislodge it. I will be delighted if I can avoid induction and this is the start of something .

ginauk84 Wed 19-Jun-13 15:24:39

Sunny - I am up to 34H so I dread to think what I will be after birth!! Don't think will be breast feeding though, my back struggles carrying these around let alone anything bigger!!

Am 39 weeks tomorrow and nothing last night or today. Scared me the other night and think I am quite happy for her to stay inside a bit longer lol.

Wow Steff, congrats bet your glad it's over now though.

pinkapples Wed 19-Jun-13 15:27:27

Anyone expressing or FF how much are you giving your baby?

MadameJ Wed 19-Jun-13 16:54:42

Well this baby of mine does not appear to want to come out, he is less engaged than he was at 34 weeks. After having dd 7 weeks early it looks like this one will be waiting for the eviction notice!!

curiousgeorgie Wed 19-Jun-13 16:55:47

Congrats Steff!! Hope you're feeling better now and having an amazing first day as a mummy grin

Not doing it yet but with my 1st DD we used to make 6 2.5oz bottles of formula a day and give them every 4 hours... About 6 weeks in I think she started to finish them so we upped it by an ounce and so on..... Hope that helps smile

pinkapples Wed 19-Jun-13 17:34:12

Thanks curious that's about what I thought figured its be about 2/3 as that's what the side of the formula boxes say can't be different for breast milk

Babybeann Wed 19-Jun-13 18:10:05

well mw refused a sweep said she will only do it if im overdue sad she did say have sex but the thought of that makes me want to hide im so sore down there.

iam- i have a consultant appointment next thursay also and hope at 40+2 they will offer me a sweep. if not i will refuse to leave haha

give me my baby!!!!!

Olimoss Wed 19-Jun-13 18:34:52

Pink - Joe feeds 8 times a day, round 3-hrly, between 80-100ml per feed, expressed milk and formula.

It's quite a lot, but on average you want them to feed between 120-180mls per kilo of body weight from now to bout 3 months. So I'm told.

I think J is just making up for some lost feeding time from when he was in NICU. He seems to have put on nearly 500g in 8 days!

peppinagiro Wed 19-Jun-13 18:48:00

Babybeann - I was considering going in and asking for a sweep this week too, as my friend was allowed one at 39 weeks. Guess it depends on the hospital. Might just wait it out, since you had no luck. I've also got an appointment next Thursday so will be staging a sit-in unless they give me a sweep there and then!

Had the acupuncture earlier - caused some contractions while the needles were in, but nothing since then sad

ginauk84 Wed 19-Jun-13 18:57:02

Our MW routinely sweeps at 40+5 but you can ask for one at 40wks, they won't do any earlier than 40.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 19-Jun-13 18:57:53

My friend was allowed a sweep on her due date! I've been told I can have one on Monday (40+3) but it'll be a different midwife so I won't hold out much hope!!!

I've actually sort of gone passed the anxious to get baby out phase, and a zen sort of calm has sort of settle on me!!

pinkapples Wed 19-Jun-13 19:12:33

Oli Theiah is feeding probably 6-8 times a day every 3/4 hrs normally about 3oz so hopefully this is ok just would like my nipples to heal now

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 19:32:55

Around here I think they offer first timers a sweep at 40 weeks, but non-first timers not til 41 weeks for some reason. Don't know why as my first was on time but second late!
I wouldn't be begging for a sweep too early as it is still an intervention.

AmIGoingMad Wed 19-Jun-13 19:53:27

So baby and pepp we're due on the same day and have our consultant appts on the same day! Given how different I've noticed that policies are depending on where in the country you are, it'll be interesting to see what they say. Of course it would be much better if we could get going for ourselves before then!smile

I might need to look into acupuncture .... smile

learnermummy Wed 19-Jun-13 19:58:43

Pepp I've not experienced any contractions during acupuncture hmm - she told me that its the needles in the fleshy bit of your hand that stimulate the oxytocin - perhaps I should sit and press those bits really hard!

pinkbear82 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:14:31

Learner - acupressure works just as well as acupuncture! So go for it. Might be worth asking your acupuncturist if there's any home techniques you can do as well.

Reflexology can also be a good way of getting things going and relaxing for you too!

forgetmenots Wed 19-Jun-13 20:15:20

Congrats Steff on baby Ethan smile

Hoping that mrsbri's silence means her unorthodox method of induction worked ;-)

ginauk84 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:37:30

Withalittlesparkle - I am the same after the contractions I had the other night it sort of hit home what was happening so now am thinking am quite happy she stays there for as long as she wants lol. Plus now she's got her head further down my SPD isn't as bad so am not in much pain, just uncomfiness.

AlohaMama Wed 19-Jun-13 21:57:10

Congrats Steff - glad the waiting is over for you, but sorry the birth sounds quite hard going. Hope you're all on your way to recovery, and enjoy your newborn snuggles.

AmIGoingMad Wed 19-Jun-13 22:41:49

Why do I live in a house which only has a downstairs toilet?! Aaargh!!!! So fed up of peeing every two minutes!

Sorry- rant over. As you were......

curiousgeorgie Thu 20-Jun-13 00:21:57

When your friend actually rings you at 10 past midnight because you haven't replied to a text sent an hour ago and she's sure you're in labour... It's a little bit annoying!!

If I ever actually have this baby I may just keep it to myself wink

SunnyL Thu 20-Jun-13 02:26:37

Eh? Your friend rang a heavily pregnant woman at midnight because you didnt reply to a text?? Even if you were in labour did she expect you to be giving her a minute by minute update? Flipping nora Curious!

Anyway i'd just like to thank whoever it was that recommended Ewan the dream sheep ages ago. He's so magic Lily has just done her first nocturnal stint in the moses basket. Even if she now screams all night it is a step in the right direction. Of course DH and i are now thinking we'll need to get a second one for us when we finally move her out of the bedroom. Not sure how we'll sleep again without the sound of Ewans heartbeat.

Mawgatron Thu 20-Jun-13 03:05:00

I feel your pain ami, we also suffer the curse of the downstairs toilet. Those last few weeks of traipsing downstairs five times every night were awful.

MrsBri Thu 20-Jun-13 05:07:20

Congrats, Steff :-) I saw Ethan's photo on Facebook posted by your DP and he's gorgeous!

I wish I could say my silence meant I had a baby but it doesn't :-( DH had the last couple of days off unexpectedly (no supplies to allow them to work) so we've been spending time together while we still can as a twosome. The weather has been amazing too. He's off til Monday now so we really need baby to arrive before then!

40 weeks today by scan. I'm still hoping he appears by his real due date of Sunday though!

And I have elephant ankles :-( I swelled yesterday. My bloody fingers are massive too. Hoping it is just late pregnancy. I'm not seeing a midwife again until Tuesday for a sweep, so hopefully it's not blood pressure.

Bored of waiting now.

AlohaMama Thu 20-Jun-13 06:32:29

So who else has a toddler and a newborn and how are you coping? I'm finding this hard. DS having been fairly angelic (compared to other similar aged kids) started being more toddlerish a week or so before dd was born. Now I feel like I'm having to spend all day telling him no. All his behaviours are typical toddler so I can't work out how much is him being upset by the new arrival versus just him being a toddler. So I don't know how much to try to discipline him and correct behaviours versus making allowances. Arrgh. He's suddenly turned into this bossy ("mummy don't do that") little boy, who ignores any instructions, gets into everything, gets really frustrated/angry if we say no, and even physically tries to pull things away from us if we tell him he can't have something. At least he's sweet with his sister, but man is it exhausting! Also now feeling bad for neglecting the newbie, as I feel like all I can do is feed her, and put her down to have to attend to her older brother. Any tips???!

learnermummy Thu 20-Jun-13 07:14:25

Morning! MrsBri, was convinced you'd beaten me to it! My sweep not til Wed - the race is on smile. Nothing to report hear but at least I'll make DS1's class assembly this morning.

Sunny, so glad to hear that Ewan the sheep is helping! Mine is still in the box waiting!

Aloha, sounds like completely normal behaviour to be honest. Plus he's got all the moving vibes/stress to deal with, in top of new baby. Are you able to keep any of his routine the same, ie nursery/child minder? I think the second baby does get a bit ignored though really as they do just need you for food in the beginning! It will get better smile.

Mawgatron Thu 20-Jun-13 07:37:23

Although I don't have another one, when I was at midwife last there was a lady who I am guessing was in for her 6 week check. She was trying to breastfeeding little one and her toddler kept trying to grab the baby off her and telling her to stop it. When I was leaving they were coming out toddler decided to lie on the floor in that classic tantrum banging floor with hands and feet screaming sort of way. Mum was coping really well with it but I remember feeling like I wanted to give her a big cuddle.

I do want more than one, but Jesus. This is hard enough with one! Sending you some massive hugs!

Oh dear. Had a massive row about not a lot with DH. A full week of no sleep and being trapped in a house is starting to take its toll I think...

AlohaMama Thu 20-Jun-13 08:13:11

Mawg, at least ds doesn't have tantrums (yet). Not looking forward to that scenario!

Learner - sadly of all weeks his Childminder has been on holiday this week, so its just been us. I think I just find it hard as I want to make allowances for him having a hard time but don't want to end up being too lenient then subsequently have to try and correct lots of bad behaviours iyswim. I sometimes wonder if I expect too much, partly because he is so good at talking you tend to assume he has the comprehension and emotional maturity to match. But he is only two, just a baby really.

Babybeann Thu 20-Jun-13 08:23:00

iam and pep- crazy we all have our appts next thursday. dont no about you but dont fancy still being pregnant then 40+2 sounds to far for me im so inpatiant. im from nottingham and have heard people getting sweeps from 38-42 weeks but my mw was not entertaing my idea of a sweep yesterday sad
are you having boys or girls? im have a girl.

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 08:37:33

Girl here babybe- although I still dont think I'll truly believe it until I see her! I'm really hoping that having the appt already booked will tempt my body into going before! Fingers crossed for us all!

Aloha our sons sound very similar. DS is big for his age and his language skills are really good. I do think that sometimes I forget that he's still only a baby really at 2.5. He's been so placid and so well behaved since birth pretty much ( I think it's to make up for the birth!) and I'm really not sure how he's going to cope and how I'm going to cope with how he copes if that makes sense?!

Mrsbri- could you pop to practice nurse at your gp or a lloyd's/boots pharmacy and ask them to check your blood pressure just to be on the safe side? I'm convinced its to do with the combination of general end of pregnancy/ crazy changes in air pressure with the delightful British weather but can't hurt to check. It's nice that your DH has some time off do you can make the most of some time for the two of you before the madness!smile

I need to get a Ewan! Maybe I'll hint to my sis in case she doesn't know what present to buy!

And I think that sleep deprived arguments are perfectly normal. I know that DH and I had quite a few in the early days. It came as a shock as we never used to argue really but really helped to talk about our sleep deprived state at better moments so that we could cut each other some slack.

curiousgeorgie Thu 20-Jun-13 08:42:45

Sunny - yes, how ridiculous is that?? My DH wasn't best pleased...

I'm so happy to hear good reviews of Ewan! I've got mine ready in the crib and am hoping it will be the miracle it promises to be grin

I'm going in for pre c section bloods today in preparation for Tuesday! I haven't told anyone in RL that I've been given a date (except for my parents who are going to look after DD and our dog) so hopefully I'll get some time with just the baby and DH before everyone starts messaging me!

Aloha - I'm not there yet but my friend went through a little rough patch with her DS1 when DS2 was born and now at about 8 weeks in he is just besotted with him, things are a lot better, and she says she feels a lot less guilty and uses naptimes to be with the other child.

MrsBri Thu 20-Jun-13 08:43:08

AmI, I have to call the hospital anyway in a bit as while Baby B is moving he isn't as active as normal, so I imagine I'll end up going in to see what he's up to. If not, I'll look at having my blood pressure taken.

My fingers are so fat I can't even get DH's wedding ring on! I'm glad that I took my rings off even though I miss them!

Learner, the race is really on, isn't it? Really want baby now, it has to be said.

curiousgeorgie Thu 20-Jun-13 08:44:15

I'm having a girl too babybe grin

Sarah2506 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:50:57

Top marks for Ewan here as well. Polly loves him and he really settles her and I like it as well. DH made me laugh the other day. Ewan was on and he said ''Polly must have turned him on'. Yes. 13 days old with no control over hands and head and she managed to crawl down the bed and turn him on. Do you think it's more likely that I turned him on?!

pinkbear82 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:51:26

aloha - I've only violet but have heard others say having a 'special' box of toys for older dc that comes out only when feeding/needing to do something with baby can be really helpful - but has to be put away when not feeding etc.
I'm sure it is just toddler behaviour and exploring boundaries and adjusting to everything. maybe with the move and changes focusing on the good behaviour may be the route go take. DO what ever feels right for you.

As for dp's and biting their heads off...it's ok, mine hasn't been Home a week yet and I've had to bite my tongue on several occasions... and when he moans he's tired I have to resist picking up closest heavy object and it making contact with him and resist reminding him he's sleeping thru the night just fine!

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:53:05

We're tempted to buy the tommee tippee perfect prep machine as getting so much conflicting advice about bottles and don't fancy spending hours over one in the middle of the night! Trouble is I found out today it had been on offer for £69.99 and now it's back to £99 so am loathed to buy it as it had been so much cheaper!

pinkapples Thu 20-Jun-13 09:00:58

Not relevant at all but very pleased with my 8oz expressed this morning

No other DCs here either so can't help I'm afraid but I'm sure it will get better

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 09:03:06

Good tactic curious! It should buy you some time. Unfortunate side effect will be 'those' texts but I reckon the pay off is worth it!smile

Good luck with hospital mrsbri!

Gina I've heard about that thing and it does look very clever but isn't something if ever manage to convince DH is worth the investment unfortunately. We found last time that buying the ready made cartons of formula was a life saver! It was a bit more pricy but worth every penny. ( I also think that the smaller costs spread over time were easier for DH to accept than a big outlay in one go!smile)

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 09:03:32

I'd not if!

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 09:04:01

Well done pink!smile

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:13:13

AmI - yes we had priced up the cartons and thought about doing that for first couple of weeks, we worked them out to be double the cost of powder formula. Hubby thinks just go for perfect prep, could probably sell on afterwards and get about half of the money back so price perhaps work out the same as if had just used cartons, I would go for it if I could find one for £70 - hate when thugs have been on offer you just don't want to pay full price then!

SunnyL Thu 20-Jun-13 09:16:41

When we opened the Ewan box it said 'say goodbye to sleepless nights'. DH and I laughed uproariously at this and wondered if we could ask for our money back when it didn't work. Well I'm now sat downstairs having breakfast with the dog in silence while DH and Lily sleep upstairs each in their respective beds. I feel AMAZING!! Think I might buy shares in the company.

forgetmenots Thu 20-Jun-13 09:28:10

Definitely getting a Ewan - in fact may take a walk with DS into the shops and spend some of my lovely gift tokens smile

forgetmenots Thu 20-Jun-13 09:29:35

Ps 8oz is LOADS pink... I've never managed more than 2.5!

massagegirl Thu 20-Jun-13 09:41:15

Wow am jealous of how much you can express. Mi e is rubbish. That said she's on the boob A LOT. Even upped the formula intake yesterday and was still hungry. She won't be put down much do expressing opportunities are rather limited. Have heard that the amount you express doesn't reflect how much baby is getting but I can't help worrying esp as her weight gain is sooooooo slow. Got my nct girls coming for lunch, should be interesting to see how I can prepare anything with baby who just wants to eat and decided yesterday she no longer liked her sling! Little pickle!

pinkapples Thu 20-Jun-13 09:41:42

I get about 2.5 maybe 3 on the rest of my expressions during the day but the morning one... Even I impressed myself grin

Babybeann Thu 20-Jun-13 09:46:17

aloha- sounds like hard work. its something ive always worried about my ds is 16 months and very much a baby still. im a stay at home mum so no going to nursery/child mimders. hoping i can keep him in the same routine as its taken so long to get him in one. hope things get better for you being a mummy is hard work!!

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 10:57:44

That's true gina I'm always the same when I've seen it at a lower price then it goes up again. So frustrating!

And I really need to look into Ewan don't I?!

pinkapples Thu 20-Jun-13 11:05:06

Ok so baby starts crying literally an hour after her feed... Mummy refuses to feed so soon... Daddy suggests trying out the sling see if it fits/baby is ok in it (we have a outdoor trek one as doing a dog walk later with the in laws and don't want to take pram... Baby gets in sling and instantly calms ahhhh peace hehe thinking may need to invest in one of the fabric ones for around the house grin

Oh and all this talk of a Ewan? What is this magical thing I am have never heard of?

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 11:24:05

Well we bought one, £10 off discount code for toys r us and 6% cash back through Quidco so not so bad, should make life easy and stop anyone moaning about how we make bottles up lol!

Ewan - looked at it on eBay, are you playing the womb sound to them and does it not keep you awake while they're in your room?

We have a Moby wrap ready for her when she arrives so hoping can use that to walk dogs (got so many stiles round us going to struggle with pushchair) and do housework. As long as it doesn't hurt my back and shoulders too much is my only worry.

Sarah2506 Thu 20-Jun-13 11:40:26

Ewan the Dream sheep! Google him, or find him on the John Lewis website:-)

Anyone else finding babies drinking madly now it's hot? I refused to believe she was hungry but then midwife reminded me that its drinking as well as eating and that she might just be more thirsty in the heat. She feeds just for a little while to get the watery milk at the beginning.

SunnyL Thu 20-Jun-13 11:40:34

Yes we're playing the sounds of the womb. The twinkly music is way too annoying, Believe me Gina you'll prefer the sounds of the womb to the sounds of a screaming baby!

Pink here is a link to Ewan. We got ours from the NCT online shop as couldn't find it in an actual shop round here.

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 11:56:55

Well done on finding a cheaper way if getting it!smile

We have a Moby too- washed it ready yesterday and can't believe how much material there is! We also got a baby hawk to try a bit later on. Fingers crossed baby likes at least one smile

pinkbear82 Thu 20-Jun-13 12:49:50

grrr today is one of those days. everything seems to be against me and I'm going round in circles.

also have the dsc from tonight until Sunday. which would be fine if dp ex hadn't already been on the phone reminding us the girls need equal times with the baby or its not fair. the fact we are helping her out this weekend so she can go out seems to have escaped her.

I could rant for hours but won't! might try a nap instead.

good to here ewan is a big help... might have to go sheep shopping myself!

peppinagiro Thu 20-Jun-13 13:06:36

Babybeann - I'm having a girl too smile and I'm with you - really can't face the thought of still being pregnant in a week's time. Also driving myself a bit demented thinking about how, by my ovulation dates, my due date should actually not be until 28th. Scan brought it forward 3 days. Worried that the later date is more accurate and I've got even longer than I thought to go sad

Intrigued by this Ewan the dream sheep. Am off to investigate! X

Sunbeam18 Thu 20-Jun-13 14:19:01

Well, went for sweep at 40+2 and the midwife couldn't do it as his head is still too high. More waiting...
Might research Ewan the sheep now!

rrreow Thu 20-Jun-13 14:56:23

Tip: don't drink a cup of tea while you have a baby strapped to your chest. Cue profuse sweating!

Does anyone else's baby do a massive poo as soon as you've changed them into a fresh nappy? Anyone else on this thread using real nappies?

Aloha DS1 has been alright so far. Quite caring actually. What we've done is be really casual about the baby. So we're not 'selling' the concept to him (not saying "come to look at your brother" or "do you like your little brother" or stuff like that), but rather letting him adjust to it at his own pace, and let him approach the baby at his own pace.

We've kept his routines (nursery, DH and I alternate bedtimes, his weekly bath with DH, dinner as a family) and are not compensating for the baby's arrival in the way of letting him get away with more stuff or anything like that. We're trying to be really consistent and maintain the same boundaries as before.

What we ARE doing consciously is giving him more one-on-one attention. Sometimes I'll specifically put the baby down in his car seat or something so I can get on the floor and play with DS1 or give him a cuddle. Also something he loves is when I cradle him in my arms, shower him with kisses and tell him he's my baby. When he approaches DS2 and acts gently (stroking him or something like that) I'll praise him and tell him he's being really gentle. Also when I've had a good night (unlike last night, awake between 3.30-6am!) then when DS1 wakes up DH will get him and put him in our bed and we'll have a family cuddle. When I'm feeding DS2 I can't do much in the way of playing with DS1 but I encourage him to bring me books and I can read them to him (I can feed hands free due to awesome nursing chair and good placement of nursing pillow).

Hope some of the above helps! I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop and DS1 to turn into a defiant nightmare...

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 15:35:12

Pink sorry to hear your having a rubbish day.

Rreow thanks for those tips!

Pepp- I'm the same. My dates have me closer to the 30th than the 25th. Hope the scan one is more realistic !

Sunbeam- sorry that sweep couldn't happen!

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:16:14

Yep I'm the same, reckon am actually due 1st July but scan said 27th June so we shall see

Rrreow - just got my cloth out, need to bung it in the washer but M will be in it tomorrow or over the weekend grin got to love a fluffy bum!

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:23:46

Re Ewan the sheep I have just discovered an iPhone app called Sound Sleeper with womb sounds on it and it's free so have just downloaded that smile. So anyone thinking of buying a Ewan might want to try that first see if it helps?

Sarah2506 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:58:18

With Ewan it's not just the noise but the fact he glows red which is also comforting, and provides a handy night light!

ginauk84 Thu 20-Jun-13 18:02:51

Yep have got a nightlight, it projects a rainbow, I love it, have the room thermometer too which is a nightlight. Might have too much light lol!

Midwife apt didn't go too well she measured me the same as I was at 34 weeks so has referred me for a growth scan tomoz or Monday, hoping I get in tomoz as don't really want to wait weekend. Said my bump was very twitchy so hopefully means she's getting ready! Fingers crossed! Just hoping fluid levels are okay as she has felt very hard but then hubby has just measured me and am fine on that measure, it was a different midwife so am hoping her measure is just out!

Olimoss Thu 20-Jun-13 18:38:25

OMG the mythical witching hours of late afternoon/evening are true. A tragedy.

If I have wine that'll definitely help J go to sleep, yes?

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 18:46:47

Ha oli! Hope the witching hours improve!

Gina I think the measure thing is a little crazy at times. I don't think it takes into account those who are tiny to begin with and the measuring us hardly scientific! That said at least you'll get another peek at baby!

Any news mrsbri?

MrsBri Thu 20-Jun-13 18:57:51

No, AmI. The midwife wasn't concerned and kept referring me to the old guidelines of 10 movements in 12 hours which wound me up a bit as I wanted to talk about change in pattern. She said to have a cold drink and see what happened. Thankfully Baby B perked up then and has been a loon ever since!

I didn't make it out to have my blood pressure checked either, but will see about that tomorrow. I've slept for a good deal of today :-/

Any sign of more babies anywhere yet?

AmIGoingMad Thu 20-Jun-13 19:04:47

I'm even more tired than usual today too- must be something in the air!

It is frustrating about the 10 movements thing- that's what my mw always focuses on too.

Just getting DS sorted for bed and can't see me being far behind him tonight.

MrsBri Thu 20-Jun-13 19:15:47

I think it's a lack of air as it is so stuffy, AmI.

I just want baby to come along now...it's a reasonable request, surely?!

Officially (even if not really) overdue tomorrow.

It's interesting that those of us bringing up the rear mostly feel our scan dates are wrong and we are due a touch later. Bring on Tuesday's sweep!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 20-Jun-13 19:19:46

Nothing here either just a bit of cramping but nothing to get excited about! I think my scan is pretty accurate, only bought my EDD forward by one day so I'm not going to quibble!!

Sunbeam18 Thu 20-Jun-13 21:45:46

Just ordered Ewan the Sheep with my gift vouchers from work! Hope he lives up to expectations!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 08:20:17

Morning! I'm still pregnant. 40+1. Boo!

And on that note I shall go and eat breakfast.

Mawgatron Fri 21-Jun-13 08:45:09

Sorry mrs bri sad I am also about to have breakfast. And in breaking news, I have been able to shower, cleanse tone and moisturise this morning. I feel like a new woman...and I was able to walk into town for an hour while DH looked after baby yesterday. Is it wrong that it made me happy inside when I returned and I asked him how it had been and dh's response was 'he's been a nightmare'. He hasn't had to cope with him alone up to this point, so hopefully that hour has helped him to see what it is actuall like...

Withalittlesparkle Fri 21-Jun-13 08:53:45

MrsBri I'm still pregnant too!!!

AmIGoingMad Fri 21-Jun-13 08:54:38

Having breakfast still pregnant here too! Today I'm 39+3 which is the day I was induced on DS but my blood pressure is behaving this time so I should definitely be happy that I'm still pregnant! Just getting fed up of the waiting and unknown that's all!

Well done maw! smile And I do think that it does put things into perspective a bit that first time that daddy and little one get some one on one time. That hour just to be also does you the works of good- even though you feel like you've got a limb missing!

peppinagiro Fri 21-Jun-13 09:07:45

Still pregnant here too sad I genuinely wake up every morning with a sinking feeling when I realise that another night has passed with no end in sight. 39+3 here too. I know it's far too early to give up hope and I haven't even reached my EDD yet, but I do genuinely now feel like it's not going to happen and I'm certain to be here at 40+14 fending off drips sad

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 09:10:41

That's a good lesson for your DH, Maw :-)

A bit of TMI here...the pressure I've got down below is immense. I now can't shut my legs. Ladylike :-/

I need to reach baby how to open the exit now he's found it!

It's good your blood pressure is behaving, AmI.

Shame we are all still pregnant though!

ginauk84 Fri 21-Jun-13 09:14:16

Another night full of contractions and now theyve stopped! Started at midnight and were every 3-4mins for 30-40seconds, they stopped for a bit then started every 5 minutes lasting for about 50-60seconds. At 6am they had stopped so I went for some sleep, not had any more am shattered and really painful pressure low down but no more contractions - grrrr! Why does she keep teasing us!

Hawkmoth Fri 21-Jun-13 09:15:32

Still pregnant here too. Also finding it very difficult to imagine anything happening spontaneously. I don't feel any different and I'm just accepting the hours of BH every day as part of my new, crappy, routine.

My sister is visiting this weekend, was sure I'd have birthed by now.

MadameJ Fri 21-Jun-13 09:43:52

Yup still pregnant here as well (due tomorrow), had absolutly no sleep due to lots of things and can definatly relate to the pressure down below. Its my bfswedding tomorrow so I hope baby doesnt decide to make its grand entrance whilst we are in church although im also dreading having to sit for long periods of time (sorry for all the moaning!!)

Babybeann Fri 21-Jun-13 09:46:09

still pregnant here too sad im so grumpy. i want to sleep and watch dvds all day but have ds to look after. anyone eles find cbeebies a life saver? feel guilty hes watching it so much but wont be foe long and weekends are always packed full of things for him to do.

i saw my big nan yesterday shes 93 and she said 'why havent you just had that baby already' my response
'sorry nan' haha bless her.

noooo ran out of tea bags!!! day just got worse sad

peppinagiro Fri 21-Jun-13 09:55:55

Ugh, poor you babybeann! At least i don't have another DC to look after. But i do have a backlog of relatives who have left me voicemails checking up on me, and can't avoid calling them back any longer. So an afternoon of calling each in turn and trying not to tell any of them to FO. I had a bit of a hormonal strop last night after two more of these messages and got DH to call Sky and have the voicemail on our landline deactivated. HA! That'll teach them.

peppinagiro Fri 21-Jun-13 09:56:54

And sorry to those of you also still suffering - hope the babies get a move on soon (tho maybe not at the wedding ceremony...)

BumbleBee2011 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:00:57

Hello ladies, long time no see - still pregnant here (39+5), just spotted the thread and thought I'd see if anyone else is also waking up annoyed at still being pregnant - quite reassuring to see there is!

The irony of course being that the moment the baby's born you wish you'd had one more proper night's sleep grin

Thought I was getting somewhere the other night when BH was keeping me awake, but it's all calmed down since. They do like to tease don't they!

Yesterday we received the parts to turn DD's pram into a double pram (awesome deal on eBay, woohoo!), so now there's a double pram parked in the kitchen just mocking me. Grrr.

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 10:01:39

That's funny, giro! Thankfully people aren't ringing me to ask. I do get quite a few texts / messages on Facebook though, despite having clearly told people we will announce it, so no announcement = no baby.

I hate having to deal with others' excitement. :-/

peppinagiro Fri 21-Jun-13 10:26:08

Oh yes, the FB messages are the worst! I got one saying 'have you popped yet?', and when I replied no, got 'But why not? I thought she was due in June?'. I replied 'IT'S STILL F**** JUNE'. Possibly not the most diplomatic reply I could have found, but hopefully it's put a few others off asking me the same thing ;)

And bumblebee, I know what you mean about the pram! Our bouncy chair is sitting emptily opposite the sofa watching me.

learnermummy Fri 21-Jun-13 10:31:46

40 + 2 today and still pregnant. Off out to dinner with PTA tonight though so baby can stay put a little longer!

curiousgeorgie Fri 21-Jun-13 10:38:24

Yes, still pregnant here too and my DD had the worst night ever hmm

She was so hot, wouldn't go to bed at bedtime, stayed up and crashed out finally at 12.30, only to wake up at 2 throwing up, finally got her to sleep in my bed at 5... Then she woke up at 6 and has been awake clinging to me ever since. For a girl that has slept 13 hours a night since about 2/3 months old it has been a shock to my poor pregnant system and I'm shattered!!

DH also seems to have some kind of bug so hoping that it doesn't get me next!

Bright side though, Only 4 days till my c section!!! grin

curiousgeorgie Fri 21-Jun-13 10:39:05

And Kim Kardashian has named her baby North West.

That's hilarious wink

learnermummy Fri 21-Jun-13 10:42:16

North West shock - wasn't on my list....

ginauk84 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:53:27

MW said sounds like I am in prelabour, I didn't even know there was such a thing!

Growth scan booked for tomorrow but they won't allow me to deliver at MLU until am signed off okay from that, so hoping nothing happens tonight as would have to go to hospital an hour away. Be tempted to stay at home and then be too late to get to hospital lol!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 11:10:57

Damn! North West, you say? Looks like back to the drawing board for us, ha ha!!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 11:16:29

Ooh, thanks for that Gina. Looks like I'm having pre-labour signs too. I have dull cramps in my thighs, lower back and lower abdomen. Usually in the evening.

That is interesting to know. Doesn't help with my impatience though!

Babybeann Fri 21-Jun-13 11:22:10

north west!?!? how strange. each to there own i guess.

curious- poor you. i know what those nights are like. ds was also very hot last night and we had to take his sleeping bag off, hes never slept without one before so que nightmare night of crying and messing around in his cot!! he passed out at 11.30.in the end.

i am dying to use my double pram which is also looking at me in the kitchen.

BumbleBee2011 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:58:36

Pepp you FB response made me lol grin

Ppl haven't been too annoying this time, but I am prepared to ignore the same individuals when they start pestering (who incidentally are always mothers themselves and should bloody well know better! hmm)

Curious that sounds awful for you sad Hope it's a quick bug and everything settles down again for you. Our DD was waking quite a bit last week, possibly due to a growth spurt, possibly the weather, but seems to have settled down again thank goodness.

bunglecat77 Fri 21-Jun-13 12:16:48

I'm another one in the still pregnant gang. Due date tomorrow - so same as you, MadameJ

I'm taking it in my stride so far, (although having real trouble sleeping at the moment), but DH is finding the waiting around very stressful. And now that our first choice baby name has been taken by Kim K.... wink

Hopefully at least one more baby from this thread will be born today or tomorrow smile

AmIGoingMad Fri 21-Jun-13 15:47:02

North West?! Different I suppose!

I hope that your dd and DH are better soon curious.

And you really must stop sitting on the fence and say what you mean pepp! grin That fb response made me chuckle!

My sis text earlier asking if my waters had gone yet. Do they really think that I won't tell them?!

Been out for lunch with DH and DS which was lovely but I am so tired now and although DS is very tired there's no sign of a nap. I can see me being in bed by 8 latest tonight!

Sunbeam18 Fri 21-Jun-13 16:12:36

I wonder how Steff is getting on?
I'm bored now - 40 + 3 and no sign of anything starting. Any tips on getting the baby's head engaged? Mine is still free!

SunnyL Fri 21-Jun-13 16:13:37

The curse of a clingy baby coming soon to a living room near you!

After feeling like we'd turned a corner the last couple of days, Lily has refused to sleep on anything that is not human for the last 24 hours. She has also spent 2 out of the last 4 hours on the boob. DH was trying to be helpful by taking her off me for a bit but she just screamed the place down until I took her back which made DH sad that he hasn't got the goods to calm her down. Thankfully he bought me New Scientist magazine in the shop so I wouldn't have to spend another afternoon watching crap daytime TV while tied to sofa and baby. Honestly there are only so many property programes you can watch where rich people get all arsey over the size of the ginormous kitchen not being good enough!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 16:31:39

Have you got a birth / exercise ball, Sunbeam? Get bouncing to try to encourage engagement.

cupcake78 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:04:57

You all seem to be coping with your new babies really well. Especially considering the weather has been so sticky at night time!

I'm still pregnanthmm 39+2. I think I've been in pre labour since 36 weeks. Pains are worse each night in my back, front and over the last 2 days my inner thighs. Plug been shedding for weeks now but I'm sure its more to do with increasing pressure on my body rather than anything productive. I long for bad rhythmic pain (which is just wrong).

Have recurring dreams each night of giving birth. Last night it was a girl. I then wake up excited only to find i'm still a beached achy whale desperate for a pee but unable to move without huffing and puffing.

The FB messages have started here as well. I've ignored so far. Ds and dh are desperate for baby to come as am I. I'm so immensely bored but trying very hard to make the most of the peace and rest.

Wonder who's baby's will come over the weekend!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 17:09:21

I'm with you, cupcake...bring on the bad rhythmic pain please! :-)

ginauk84 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:10:41

Cupcake - have you had any contractions? I hope this pre labour isn't going to be like that can't be doing with these contractions all night every night!

Sunbeam18 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:21:11

Thanks, MrsBri - yep, got birth ball and trying to sit on it as much as poss.
Are those of you who are still pregnant (and post or around due date) still allowing your partners to go out (and also to drink alcohol)? We just had a row about it as mine has been at band rehearsal 3 times this week, with a drink afterwards. I think it's a bit much considering something could happen at any moment, and we may need to urgently get to hospital. He's good in other ways, making all the meals etc, but I got tearful this afternoon that he's not taking the imminence of this major event seriously enough.

learnermummy Fri 21-Jun-13 17:27:17

Sunbeam my DH is very panicky and getting home as soon as he can. Think he wants to work from home if we get into next week too! It's me going out tonight at 40+2!

MrsBri Fri 21-Jun-13 17:29:54

Sunbeam, my DH would rather not go out at all, I think! He doesn't go out at night at the moment at all.

With regard to drinking, I've said he can still drink but only one drink. He's not allowed to be over the limit at any point.

It's difficult for them to get their heads round it I think.

ginauk84 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:46:49

I thought about that the other day if we need to get to hospital and hubby has had a drink. However he only normally has a small can of shandy and home, never been a drinker or one for going out so were safe there. Think I would be banning drinking otherwise lol wink

pinkapples Fri 21-Jun-13 17:46:49

Sounds like my household sunny after a good week last night and today has been rubbish constantly feeding and no sleep for her or us! Tired is not the word!

bunglecat77 Fri 21-Jun-13 17:49:30

That's brilliant, learner. Wish I had planned something exciting to do now!

Sunbeam - mine is still going out places - I think it helps him to try and stay in a calm frame of mind, but he's taken himself off the sauce for the time being.

I'm also feeling pretty teary today - anyone know if that's a sign...? It's not something I've had at all up until this last week.

learnermummy Fri 21-Jun-13 17:52:24

It's prob not v sensible of me bungle as I'm v tired but then again could be my last chance in a while! As long ax my waters don't break in my friends car!

cupcake78 Fri 21-Jun-13 18:47:20

gina - had a few weak ones more like painful braxton hicks with major downward pressure. I get about 3-4 every night between now and 8pm. Its nothing to get excited about because it never all comes together. DS was latent labour for 5 days, day and night contractions every 10-15 mins until I insisted the hospital admitted me. I was there for 12-13hrs and they decided to break my waters, ds came 4 hours after that. I understand your frustration its exhausting. I think its just the way I seem to labour. I niggle on forever. I would love nothing more than spontaneous labour!!!

Sunbeam - My dh is still going out at night and getting increasingly late coming home from work. The work thing is just his way of coping and getting ready for 2 weeks at home. As annoying as it is especially when I am stuck in the house. I have put restrictions on him. He has to be within an hour of home, agree to leave as soon as I tell him I need him and he has to be in a fit state to drive! Ive basically said he can do what he wants as long as he feels he is capable of getting me to the hospital, sitting through labour for possibly days and being of use and then looking after ds on very little rest while baby and me are working our way through a few weeks of feeding.

He was actually going to book the car in to get the brakes changed on monday until I asked how he intended to get home in an hour with a car in bits and an hours commute back home! He has stopped going on bike rides at the moment as he could be hours away from home.

MadameJ Fri 21-Jun-13 19:45:22

Well after my original post this morning I thought we might have had some action.....stomach and back ache, lots of toilet visits, extreme pressure down below so I kept active, cleaned every bit of the house, bounced on my ball and now absolutly bloody nothing. THIS IS TORTURE!!!!!

Hawkmoth Fri 21-Jun-13 19:49:03

Torture is right. Contracting every two bloody minutes for a couple of hours... But just uncomfortable. What's the point of that?!

Sunbeam18 Fri 21-Jun-13 20:52:28

Having moaned about OH earlier, he phoned about ten mins later to apologise for being thoughtless and full of praise for all the sacrifices and indignities I'm going through. He's coming straight home after the gig tonight at 9pm and not going out again before bubs arrives. Feel much better! He's with me all day as works from home so it's not like I'm spending a lot of time alone, it was the lack of engagement with reality that was bothering me. Think he's taken it on board though. Thanks, ladies!

MadameJ Fri 21-Jun-13 21:04:55

Have the contractions stopped now Hawkmoth?

Hawkmoth Fri 21-Jun-13 21:17:07

Yup. I got in the bath and it was like flicking a switch. Few twinges since getting out, but nothing in earnest!

SunnyL Fri 21-Jun-13 21:23:09

I have been attached to the sofa for approximately 10 hours today. As soon as I put bubs down she screams, if DH picks her up she screams. DH tried to do us a nice dinner since we missed our anniversary last week when I was in labour. I tried to eat it standing up with bubs in the sling. Managed half my starter before she kicked off again. She just wants to be asleep in my arms or on my boob the WHOLE day. I know it's lovely having your baby but god I'm getting cabin fever. The dog has been giving me such looks as well.

Sarah2506 Fri 21-Jun-13 21:54:46

sunny have you tried expressing? During similar moments we think she doesn't feed that well hence the screaming for more. By giving her expressed milk after a feed we tank her up and knock her out. Wow. We sound like really good parents.

Steffanoid Fri 21-Jun-13 22:22:43

hello hello, im still here, got released today after moving from.the labour ward to maternity yesterday morning, am surprised and pleased they're let me out, am waking Ethan ti feed ,4 hours after each.feed, he's such a sleepy monkey!
can't believe we're at home the 4 of us in the morning when tge dog comes back from mums tomorrow, my little complete (for now) family smile

had a lovely shower when we got home, am sat awaiting next feed at 11 with my feet raised and trying to make a sitting wedge so I can sleep without being too uncomfortable

hope everyone's ok!

HappyGoLuckyGirl Fri 21-Jun-13 22:45:20

Hi everyone smile

Just thought I'd let you know that I'm in labour grin

Contractions started at 5am this morning, got to 3-4mins apart and 50secs in length then they stopped around 12pm.

They started again at roughly 7pm and are now coming about 8-9mins apart. In for a long night I think!

Sending labour vibes to everyone smile

SunnyL Fri 21-Jun-13 22:46:45

Yeah Sarah - trouble is I've only managed to express 100ml today because she's been on me the whole time - we reserve that for the 3am period when DH takes over to retain my sanity. We just caved and tried a bottle of formula which she only took a bit of before screaming. Current thinking is she might have reflux. DH and a lot of his family all suffer quite badly from reflux so it could be it. We've got the midwife tomorrow so will ask her.

Hawkmoth Fri 21-Jun-13 23:25:38

Hope all goes well Happy! And welcome home Steff.

AlohaMama Sat 22-Jun-13 00:58:24

Good luck Happy! And am feeling very sorry for everyone else being teased by pre-labour!

E got weighed this morning - put on 13.5oz in a week so more than regained her birthweight. Which means I have official go-ahead to leave her sleeping at night. Hurrah. Hoping for a few longer stretches of sleep now.

DS is still being a handful though has been slightly better today. It is tiring for sure. Thanks for all the tips everyone. I think I'd pretty much done most of the suggestions I guess we just have to wait for things to settle down. I think when you're tired it is just so much worse, and dh is behind with work, and tired too, and seemed to be blaming me for not entertaining ds sufficiently, which didn't make me feel great. Not sure if that was how he meant it but still...

And have just realised it's only just over 8 weeks till we move back to England. Slightly panicky and sad. I'm hoping we have some time to enjoy our last weeks here as I'm not sure when we'll ever come back.

MadameJ Sat 22-Jun-13 03:19:03

Well I think im in labour ladies, being having contractions now since about 12 (and boy had I forgot what they r like) will keep you updated!!

SunnyL Sat 22-Jun-13 03:41:09

Oh good for you ladies having contractions. Its been a bit of a new baby desert the last couple of days. Looking forward to hearing new names and labour stories.

Welcome home Steff - your new one sounds rather perfect. Wake them up to feed???!

AlohaMama Sat 22-Jun-13 03:52:18

Good luck madame. Hopefully you will start the ball rolling again for everyone!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 22-Jun-13 06:36:36

Mega contraction jealousy here!! Any news?

peppinagiro Sat 22-Jun-13 06:55:21

Good luck Madame! Hope it goes well smile I'm jealous too. Been awake most of the night again for no good reason. Fecking sick of it. Either let's be awake because there's a baby here/on the way, or sodding well let me sleep. Still, at least I'm less keen for her to arrive today - too tired for it.

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 07:27:01

Good luck Sunny and Madame. Very jealous here as Baby B is showing no sign of exiting at all :-/

Wish I could stop feeling sick just for one day if he's not bothering to come out though. Sigh.

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 07:32:22

Not Sunny, Happy. Not awake yet!!

Steffanoid Sat 22-Jun-13 08:08:43

aloha are you planning on doing some sight seeing/ really touristy things before you come back?

my oh lived in Australia and came back the summer he was 10, that summer tgeybdid all the things that were 'sightseer

ginauk84 Sat 22-Jun-13 08:20:17

Fab stuff with the contractions hope they carry on for you. We had a contraction free night last night so got a good nights sleep, quite happy for things to kick off again now am rested & hoping they sign me off back to MLU today and we will be well away lol.

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 08:46:02

Good luck happy and Madame!smile

Welcome home stef! I think you named your son well as ours was just the same- crazy birth but so chilled and great at sleeping straightaway! Although we did end up ff so that might have eased my view of the sleep thing as DH did every other feed!smile

I'm still in the fed up camp! Woke up around 3 to go to the loo-again- and then when trying to get bk to sleep I had 2 period type cramps in lower stomach. Just as I was thinking ' oo could it be?' Nothing else happens and still hasn't!

Hope you have better days today sunny and pinkapples!

learnermummy Sat 22-Jun-13 08:57:06

Nothing here either but had a good night out and a good nights sleep so can't complain smile.

Good luck to happy & Madame. Glad u made it home steffanoid.

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 09:10:11

AmI, I get BH after every loo trip. It's frustrating!

I've just made a lemon drizzle cake to kill a bit of time. Helps that it tastes amazing! :-) DH loves it!

A bit crampy now too. No doubt it's nothing!

pinkapples Sat 22-Jun-13 10:12:44

Sorry for all the ladies feeling frustrated hmm it won't be long now June's nearly over grin

Theiah must have know mummy was tired last night as she fed twice and slept for 4 hours in between each so we have a happy mummy today!

Good luck today ladies maybe have some more births

pinkbear82 Sat 22-Jun-13 11:08:16

ooo ladies waiting to hear some arrivals... kinda glad I ended up being induced and didn't have the waiting game - you have my sympathies.

I think violet is getting too long for her tiny baby sleep suits but the next
size up is massive everywhere else on her confused mind you her hands tucking up inside the arms means her hands are actually warm!

weekend with 3 children 4, if we include dp going ok so far. dsds still don't quite get that at 16 days old their new sister can't really do much!

SunnyL Sat 22-Jun-13 11:10:16

I also had a bit of a magic baby last night. After a monster day yesterday where she just wouldn't leave me alone she slept for 4 hours straight then 2 and another 2 which would have been longer if it wasn't for postman ringing the doorbell. Mind you that was to deliver another batch of parcels of lovely outfits for our lovely girl. Taking photos of her in them and posting them on Facebook until we get thank you cards sorted out seems to be a popular choice with folks.

pinkapples Sat 22-Jun-13 11:27:44

How do I get on the Facebook group? Would love to see all these little beauties

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 11:46:15

Pink, PM me your name and the email address you use for Facebook and I'll add you. :-)

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 12:04:34

Bouncing on ball watching the lions now. Am hoping the bouncing and excitement might combine to some movement! Then I start panicking about actually giving birth and stop bouncing quite do vigorously!hmm

AlohaMama Sat 22-Jun-13 12:12:24

Steff, yes to some extent. There are some touristy things we never got to do but now aren't that bothered about. We'd rather go back to our favourite places again. Once our stuff gets shipped we'll have 3n/2d in Waikiki before we fly so that will be like a little holiday at the end if we're not running round doing last minute errands

Pink bear, isn't it scary how fast they grow? They end up getting through each size in weeks! No wonder some people say they end up with clothes that never get worn! So far E has worn each newborn onesie at least once so at least I can justify that I haven't wasted money. so far

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 12:31:42

Ha ha, AmI! I keep having a bit of panic about birth, even though I'm so uncomfortable that I really need baby to exit.

I can't close my legs when seated any more. Nice.

Had a surge of energy / enthusiasm this morning, so I've done some cleaning as well as making the cake. I'm making DH sort some of his shit out too. It's good prep for a child having him around :-/

pinkapples Sat 22-Jun-13 12:56:59

Thanks mrsbri just added some photos :-)

rrreow Sat 22-Jun-13 13:22:32

About to have bra fitting but DS wasn't interested in left boobs after he was done with right, so my left is about twice the size

rrreow Sat 22-Jun-13 13:32:45

Also after talking about DS1 coping so well during the day, he's been having serious meltdowns at night. Waking up crying inconsolably, really worried that we're going away or not there. Feel really sorry for him.

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 14:15:30

As poor DS rreow! It must be really hard for them to adjust - dreading that with ours to be honest.

Forgot to say that yesterday evening was eventful- bathtime for DS and he did huge poo in bath, then when he was stood on bathmat as we cleared it, he peed in mat. I kind of thought my waters should've gone to make it a hat trick!

Baby has been quiet today but I've been really busy pottering so I'm going to lie down now to try to concentrate on movements.

ginauk84 Sat 22-Jun-13 14:17:01

I wonder if we have two new arrivals yet.

Growth scan showed everything fine she was a bit arsey to start with saying stuff like am not going to be able to scan at this late stage, we won't get any measurements etc. we thort oh joy but as it happens she did manage to get every measurement and everything is fine, measuring 7lb8oz plus or minus 20%. So we've been put back under the care of MLU - phew.

Also said prelabour contractions hopefully have been thinning membrane so will be helping things a long but don't always mean I won't need induction - hopefully we carry on though and can make her move naturally!

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 14:17:03

Mrsbri- I too cannot close my legs when sitting down- so ladylike! And sitting in the loo is also very uncomfortable (sorry tmi!)

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 14:28:13

Poor DS rrreow :-( I hope he settles soon for you. It really must be difficult to get their heads round when they're that young.

AmI, that is funny of your DS. Not at the time though, I imagine?!

And yes to being uncomfy on the loo too! Everything's a mission now. I'm not even sure I can face another bath due to the utter mission it has become to get in and out. :-/

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 14:28:59

Oh, and excellent news re the scan, Gina.

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 14:35:27

X posted gina- great news on the scan!smile

Yes it was hysterical after the initial shouts of 'code brown' were dealt with!grin

ginauk84 Sat 22-Jun-13 14:36:55

Lol yes the loo thing isn't easy lol!

Sarah2506 Sat 22-Jun-13 17:04:15

On the not shutting legs thing I still sit with my legs wide open two weeks after the event. It's not attractive. It's like my body forgot how to be ladylike...

cupcake78 Sat 22-Jun-13 19:18:32

Well today I've had lots of bh. A bit of period pain. Hot flushes and I've just had to do the ironing and mop two floors!

I've been very restless and still feel like I can't sit still. I'm not sure if this is all because of cabin fever, frustration or if its hormonally influenced. I'm in a horrible mood. Poor dh has been nagged at so much he's done very well not to snap at me.

I really want this to be over now hmm. I'm so extremely ready for my baby!

AmIGoingMad Sat 22-Jun-13 19:33:31

Aw cupcake not long now! It's such a frustrating emotional roller coaster of a time isn't it?! I'm the same and randomly bursting into tears. Although only a couple of mild period cramps so have a feeling I'll be playing the waiting game for a while yet. I hope that this is it for you!

Sarah ha! It's going to be interesting trying to get out bodies back to at least behaving as they did before, let alone looking as they did!

I'm still having the whole swinging back and forth thing. One minute I'm all ' come on! Lets get this going now!' And the next needing to deep breathe to calm myself down about what I've got to do soon! My poor body can't win!

Babybeann Sat 22-Jun-13 19:44:33

snap on the sitting like a man front dp thinks its very funny.

had a good walk round mother care and kiddicare today got awful back ache now but no dout its nothing. got up at 4 last night for some water felt like id not drank in weeks extream thirst not happensd before.

cant wait to hear more baby news!!!
good luck everyone

curiousgeorgie Sat 22-Jun-13 20:01:24

I'm such a mess today... Realising that one way or another (either labour before or a c section Tuesday) its my last weekend with DD as my only child I just kept crying this morning! blush DH found it hilarious.. (Very sympathetic!!) suddenly I feel really unprepared to have another baby and can't imagine I can love her like I love my DD... I know it's probably just hormones but they've hit me hard today.

I've got period pain and backache too... Also feel hideously nauseous... Is that anything?

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 20:27:26

Georgie, my DH was contemplating whether this will be our last Saturday as a twosome earlier. It's quite a weird feeling.

And crying at the drop of a hat is very normal right now, it seems.

I've had really bad nausea for a week or so, as well as the extreme night thirst for a bit longer.

I've also had period pain cramps on and off all afternoon. Don't think they'll come to anything though.

Hope they do though as it's my real due date tomorrow!

MadameJ Sat 22-Jun-13 20:35:00

I had a gorgeous little girl at 6am weighing 8lb 3oz, very quick straightforward water birth. Home now enjoying lots of snuggles. Thanks for all your good luck messages x

rrreow Sat 22-Jun-13 20:52:55

Congrats MadameJ! Water birth sounds nice.

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 20:59:04

Congrats, Madame :-)

learnermummy Sat 22-Jun-13 21:53:26

Congratulations Madame flowers

cupcake78 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:10:51

Congratulations thanks lovely news

Withalittlesparkle Sat 22-Jun-13 22:20:15

Congrats Madame

Ladies I'm not being funny but can I have mine next? Plllllleeeeeeaaaaassssseeee

ginauk84 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:23:41

Congrats Madame, sounds like everything went smoothly smile

Hawkmoth Sat 22-Jun-13 22:25:59

Congratulations MadameJ x

pinkapples Sat 22-Jun-13 22:27:57

Congratulations Madame grin

peppinagiro Sat 22-Jun-13 22:52:54

Congratulations! Glad you got out and home again quickly x

MrsBri Sat 22-Jun-13 22:59:53

As long as I can follow close behind, Sparkle! :-)

Withalittlesparkle Sat 22-Jun-13 23:28:35

Bri, I wouldn't even mind if we went tandem smile unless I have a quick delivery in the next 35 mins I'll be 40+2 and as there isn't even the hint of labour it's really really not likely to happen!

Am a little tired of people saying corny lines like 'he'll come when he is ready' 'you can't rush these things' 'you obviously got your dates wrong' 'have you tried...' Yes I totally understand I have to be patient but it's hard work and I feel 100% entitled to moan as much as I bloody well want!!!

MadameJ Sun 23-Jun-13 01:13:07

Well this is a shock, nearly 24 hours with no sleep as DD2 has being feeding all evening and shows no sign of stopping but being completlt honest its still better than being pregnant!!

DontmindifIdo Sun 23-Jun-13 07:19:14

Curious- I had that the weekend before I had dd (elcs). So worried about ds. He's had a few jealous moments (and it's soon much harder with two!) but he's also loved being my "little helper" - told me off last night for changing dd without him helping!

Try to carve out some time when dc2 is asleep or just not feeding to give dc1 some attention.

Mawgatron Sun 23-Jun-13 07:30:33

Ahh, congrats Madame, that is amazing news!

Still keeping fingers crossed for all of you ladies still waiting. And walking round mothercare was when I first realised I was contracting so you may be in luck!!

Feel a bit sad this morning. I had 4 tickets to see Peter Doherty (I know he is an absolute fuckup but I live in a small town and he was playing in a small venue - it was a big deal round here), which I let DH have so he could wet the babies head. Gone on fb this morning and it seems like EVERYONE I know was there and had a great time. At the moment I am exclusively breastfeeding and my midwife advised me not to pump yet unless really necessary so I don't fuck up my milk production. This means that I now feel like any kind of escape night out is far too long away for me to get my head round. I am aware that I possibly sound like a bit of a selfish cow but it is making me feel sad and jealous of DH in equal measures sad

Prob just feeling tired as Baxter slept for four and a half hours in the afternoon yesterday (which was lovely), but punished me for it withe massively long feedings in the evening/night.

Oh and DH finally had a look at my downstairs mix up yesterday. Apparently it looks 'a bit sorry for itself' hmm. I should fucking think so, thinking about the beating it has taken over the last week or so! Stitches were giving me jip yesterday, but it seems to have turned into more of a dull ache than twingy- anyone else had this?

Oh, and mrsbri, I have pm'd you about the Facebook thread! Let me know if you can't find me and I will temporarily relax my privacy settings.

AmIGoingMad Sun 23-Jun-13 08:09:50

Congratulations Madame! That's lovely news and also very encouraging news for those of us still waiting!smile

Diddly squat here as far as movement to report hmm

I have my friend's baby shower this afternoon so that's something to look forward to- just hope I don't get too many ' I thought you'd have had the baby by now' !

Curious-I keep looking at DS and feeling guilty about how much things are about to change. I also feel bad for how fed up he must be with my lack of energy and ability to play like I want to. Not long now tho hey ( hopeful face!)

Lets hope that today's the day for some of us! Especially as it'll prove that we have more idea of our dates than the measurements hey mrsbri!!!

And maw I don't think you're selfish at all! After a tough 9 or so months it suddenly hits you that no matter how awesome your other half is ( and mine really is amazing!) there are some things only you can do and it does affect your lives slightly differently. And it makes perfect sense that you feel like a night off/ time to celebrate!

BumbleBee2011 Sun 23-Jun-13 08:42:26

Congrats Madame, that's lovely smile I'm hoping for a home water birth, so let's see how that goes...

Due date today, plus we are celebrating DD's birthday with a friends/family lunch out (her actual birthday is Thursday which I thought would be a bit of a stretch to organise). I've made her a birthday cake to take along out of maternal guilt for what is to come, even spent 1 hour yesterday stood in the kitchen icing the thing! DH's response when I said I was tired afterwards was "why didn't you just buy one at Sainsbury's"...I don't think they get it do they...

I have a feeling I'm in for a few more days of waiting, my original due date based on cycle dates etc was the 26th, so I'm thinking that's more accurate than the scan.

Anyone trying any weird baby-eviction exercises? Funniest one I read was nipple stimulation, apparently 3 times a day for an hour each time - I mean who has that kind of time?? grin

0pumpkin Sun 23-Jun-13 08:43:42


I have just discovered this thread, I was due on the 14th so in the overdue club also. And getting fed up of it, my responses to friends asking if I have had the baby yet have become increasingly sarcastic then quickly followed by an apology message.

It's been lovely reading about all the birth's and newborn experiences... Congratulations!! This is my first and I'm also the first out of my friends to have a baby so I thought I would jump on the thread and introduce myself as it looks like a great place to speak to others in the same situation!


BumbleBee2011 Sun 23-Jun-13 08:52:54

Welcome pumpkin - my DD was 8 days overdue so you have my sympathy wink

I'd imagine being the first of your friends to have DC is probably a bit of a lonely place at first but I imagine you'll be the expert when your friends start having theirs! I recommend going to baby/toddler groups, bit scary at first but now I know lots of other mums in my community who I can moan to share experiences with smile

pinkbear82 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:04:10

congrats Madame - hope the first night was good.

welcome pumpkin - the ladies here are a fountain of knowledge and it's a great place to share everything.

I hit a real tired wall last night - was feeding violet and knew her nappy needed changing too, clearly wondering around looking for the nappies (I have a basket next to the bed with everything in to save this) and cursing because I couldn't find them work dp up an impossible task normally and he asked what I was doing. not sure what I replied but he jumped out of bed took violet and the basket and changed her and settled her while telling me to sleep. he woke me at 5 for her feed and did everything again. don't think I've ever been more grateful to him!

now just need to motivate myself for today and get going - dsd's go home tonight - it's been a long 4 days!!

Steffanoid Sun 23-Jun-13 09:40:02

good morning,

theres so.much to catch up on here when you dont have a bf free minute!

congrats madame thanks

Ethan has figured milk out now, he fed and slept on me literally th e whole day 9-9 yesterday, slept in tge night and has started again today, started a thread on here that said it's him sorting my supply out, just hope it doesn't last tge 10 weeks they suggested it could do...

AmIGoingMad Sun 23-Jun-13 09:43:15

Welcome pumpkin!smile

Bumble I hope you have a lovely day celebrating dd birthday!

And Pinkbear I hope that you manage to get a bit more rest today!

AmIGoingMad Sun 23-Jun-13 09:44:21

X post stef!

Glad that he's feeding so well but I hope it settles down soon for you! How's your recovery going?

Steffanoid Sun 23-Jun-13 09:54:52

recoverys fine, just a bit tender, midwife was really impressed yesterday with us both, back tomorrow dir heel prick and stitches out, my sadist midwife is looking forward to taking them.out!

SunnyL Sun 23-Jun-13 10:03:41

Steff i'm having days like that too. Thankfully we also have days where she feeds for 20 mins then goes to sleep for a couple of hours. Last night was tiring though - 9.30-12.30 when i just wanted to sleep.

Mawg i'm also feeling a bit of cabin fever. Im missing out on 2 hen weekends this weekend and getting so jealous of all the photos they are putting on Facebook of them having loads of fun. I love my little girl but really wish i could havea couple of hours alone. I really see whysome people switch to formula at this stage.

learnermummy Sun 23-Jun-13 10:29:51

Welcome pumpkin smile

Bumble I'm also hoping for a home water birth, am 40+4 today. DS2's birthday is next Saturday and I caved in and ordered a cake for him, which doesn't seem right - I always make them hmm. Just hope baby arrives before his birthday as I don't really want him to have to share! My mum's coming today to stay for a week, so come on baby!!

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 10:47:58

Congrats Madam!!

Mawg - not sure why midwife would say jumping will stuff up your milk production?! Mine has said to keep at it (pumping)....despite ongoing efforts Joe just will not accept milk va the boob superhighway so I am relant entirely on the pump and I get milk....will be increasingly unable to keep up with his feeding needs via breastmilk alone but that's to do with what my boobs are able to produce rather than case I'm pumping.

Joe's milkzits got so rank I was loathe to take him out of the house! Thankfully they are receding. Either way we leave the house couple of times most days, our NCT group meets every Thursday, I've booked in baby swimming from 6 weeks....desperate not to get stuck at home.

Csection scar is just a purple line now, whole thing is amazing. And Joe's last hospital checkup was A+ so that's so brilliant. I find I can't even look at the phots of him in NICU at the moment. Too awful.

Right - am attached to the pump as we speak and must get on. God luck and speedy labours to these of you still left. You're all amazingly patient!

Oh - will there be a postnatal thread on here once all the babies are born, or will you on FB just be using that?

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 10:50:34

Oops forgot to say I recommend leaving your pre iOS bundles with partners & heading off for a facial or massage for couple hours. Is VERY good education for the partners! I dd it yesterday.....

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 10:51:56

Sorry (yet again) for shitty iPad spelling errors....gah!

AmIGoingMad Sun 23-Jun-13 11:08:52

Good to hear you're recovering well stef!

Great news that joe is doing so well oli!smile

And please say that there'll be a post natal thread here and that you won't all escape to Facebook- I'm not on Facebook!

Baby is having a major acrobat day here today! Those of you who already have your bundles of joy ( and sleep deprivation!) did you notice that labour started after a busy baby day or a quiet baby day?

I also don't understand when me said that head is well and truly down, I keep feeling hiccups up by belly button?!

Sarah2506 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:29:09

I have a bit of cabin fever too. In some ways the section recovery is good for me in that respect; without that I would want to be in the gym or heading out for long walks. The need to recover kind of compells me to take it easy and so it's not Polly stealing my freedom, that is. There is no way I could physically go out for hours at the moment. Though how I would love to go to a gig or something!

I assume we just start a thread in postnatal for late may to early July babies once they are all here?

Anyone else's beautiful tiny baby grown into a mini leper leaving piles of dead skin everywhere? It's super grim. Peeling face, hands and feet are the worst, but front and back pretty nasty as well.

oli at what point are you going to take joe to aus? We are loosely contemplating a trip to New Zealand in spring next year- good use of maternity leave I reckon and nice for DH to have some extended time with her. Wonder if long haul travel will just finish us off!

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 11:55:22

Sarah - I'll be going sometime Sept, prob late, and into October, if not a touch earlier. Cause of his oesophageal repair I will need to start him on baby rice bout 4 months or soon after and want to be here with support of his specialist nurse for that.

I reckon is good time to travel with them - in a routine but they don't care if it's day or night so less of their body clock to mess up!

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 12:15:26

Sarah - yes to the skin! J came back from hospital v snake-like. Grim. As his zits improve his face is drying. Still grim.

forgetmenots Sun 23-Jun-13 15:35:09

Yes yes to postnatal thread, even though I have been rubbish at updating!

Got a Ewan, the boy loves it...

Mawgatron Sun 23-Jun-13 15:59:42

Baxter is really dry too, flaky skin all over the place! We have given him in a bath with some olive oil which I think is helping a little bit. Shame he absolutely detested it! Screamed so much that his entire body went bright red!

Going to order a Ewan on Thursday when I get paid, so he had better be good! I'm going on your recommendations ladies!

And ditto yes to the postnatal thread xxx

Sunbeam18 Sun 23-Jun-13 16:06:42

I feel like I'm the only person still bloody pregnant - 40+5 with no head engagement....

curiousgeorgie Sun 23-Jun-13 16:10:37

Sunbeam - I'm still pregnant too! Annoying, isn't it wink

Withalittlesparkle Sun 23-Jun-13 16:30:49

Sunbeam and George another here still absolutely pregnant

peppinagiro Sun 23-Jun-13 16:39:00

And me sad sad sad

Actually spent most of the afternoon sobbing in despair about still being stuck in this miserable, painful, rotten state.

Steffanoid Sun 23-Jun-13 16:52:35

dont worry guys you'll get there! by tge time I went into labour I was 40+5 and Ethan arrived at 41 weeks I can't believe my waters went a week tomorrow!

Hawkmoth Sun 23-Jun-13 16:53:31

I've not even bothered getting dressed today. Pfft to being a whale. Have pulled a muscle sneezing with a BH in place. I'm going to have to go to GP tomorrow as my chest is really bad. I can't wait to have Sudafed and proper drugs again.

MrsBri Sun 23-Jun-13 17:00:45

Quick update.

Waters went at 6.20 this morning but had poo in. Straight to hospital where labour started very quickly. Went from 2-10cm in about 3.5 hours!

Ended up with c section as baby not happy. Amy Alicd born at 13.11 weighing 9lb 7oz :-)

She's been in special care as she swallowed some poo, but has just been given the all clear and is on the way up to me now.


Very happy and tired. Will catch up later on. Xx

MrsBri Sun 23-Jun-13 17:01:14

Alice, not Alicd! :-/

Sunbeam18 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:05:59

Congratulations, MrsBri! A girl! Lovely name. Hope you feeling ok after section xxx

Olimoss Sun 23-Jun-13 17:07:34

Big congrats Mrs Bri!

pinkbear82 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:08:52

congrats mrsbri - wonderful news. hope you enjoy snuggles with Amy now she has the all clear - and hope you are doing ok too after the c section. congrats again - enjoy x

AlohaMama Sun 23-Jun-13 17:10:45

Congratulations MrsBri - you must be thrilled. Glad Amy is doing well.

Hawkmoth Sun 23-Jun-13 17:23:39

Congratulations MrsBri. Enjoy those first cuddles x