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October 2013- Constantly hungry and counting down to maternity leave.

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GTbaby Thu 13-Jun-13 11:47:42

Right off to finish the last thread smile

Quick then GT or someone will do it for you grin

roofio87 Thu 13-Jun-13 11:59:30

beat u to it GT!!! grin

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Jun-13 12:01:39

Another very pertinent thread title! I'll repost my post from the end of the last thread as it's made me happy:

I just booked my annual leave and maternity leave - my last day in the office is the 10th September - 3 months to go! Which given actual working days and holiday is 26 days grin

Smitten1981 Thu 13-Jun-13 12:05:21

I never notice that a thread is near ending, rubbish.

I dreamed that I left the baby in a car with no nappy on and no food while I went out for the night with Khloe and Lamar from the Kardashians. DH said he dreamed that the baby flew out last night.

Glad It's not just me having the crazy dreams now.

After seeing yours Pseudo I worked mine out, last day 15th sept (although have 2days hol left so might change!) and count up of days left is 33 shifts! Not bad smile

legallyblond Thu 13-Jun-13 12:07:20

Marking place!

Because the twins are likely to arrive around 37 weeks, I am starting mat leave ridiculously early, either on 9th or 16th August!!! I will be happy if they arrive anytime from 1 Sept.....

Another story if they were singletons... due date is 28 Sept technically... DD was due on 27 Sept 2010 and arrived on 11 Oct!

roxvox Thu 13-Jun-13 12:19:37

pseudo that's amazing! I have just worked mine out and I have 51 more work days. We've got 2 weeks holiday booked for the last 2 weeks in August, then I am going to go back to work for a week, then 2 weeks holiday again to lead into my maternity leave (which will then start at 39 weeks). That's the plan at the minute anyway, but I may omit that week back at work if work will allow me to start my maternity leave with 4 weeks holiday!

I can't believe your DD was 2 weeks late legally! My due date is 2nd October, but I know when I ovulated (and we conceived) so I know that 9 months will actually be closer to the 10th/11th October.

Smitten1981 Thu 13-Jun-13 12:20:40

I can't work out when mine should start but I'm going to see if I can work from home from September until I pop, I want to wait as long as I can before I have to go back grin

Warlin Thu 13-Jun-13 12:36:27

Just worked mine out and I have 38 days left!! Finishing on the 6th Sept...wow that really doesn't seem that long! smitten love your dream! I am going to do some home working too nearer the time but 38 working days left in total.

DS came at 37 weeks and on the day I finished work last time so I will def be more cautious towards the end and will finish a few days before if I get any signs at all. Last time I sort of ignored the signs as I just wanted to get everything handed over and sorted....ds had other ideas though!

I'm struggling today. I just feel horrible....swollen ankles, uncomfortable trousers, heartburn, excessive thirst, need to pee but can't actually go much...the list goes on. I feel the need to walk around the office but there are so many stairs here that it exhausts me. Think I just need to man up smile (who came up with that expression anyway!) Wonder if I could slip off early and say I have the dentist or something.....?!

Thanks GT for starting the new thread, can't believe we have chatted through another 1000 posts!

roofio87 Thu 13-Jun-13 12:38:55

my last day is 6th September, got 2.5 weeks of holiday to take (if I don't have any until then!!) and then start mat leave at 38 weeks!! I cannot wait!! working with little kids over summer holiday at least so looking forward to that. can't wait till youth club is finished for the summer!!

roofio87 Thu 13-Jun-13 12:41:53

also dp is spending the day poking a stick into the spider's layer to try and entice him out to capture him!! Haha. he's under instruction to do it while I'm at work and not tell me if it escapes him and he looses it!! I have visions of getting home and him being upside down tangled in a web!!
umlauf how did u get on with the lizard?

Wickedgirl Thu 13-Jun-13 12:52:44

I will leave work when I'm 29 weeks. The SPD is too much to stay working much more than that. At the moment, I don't know if I will even make it that long (6weeks).

My car seat was delivered yesterday so I now have everything ready.....I've even packed my hospital bag and coming home bags. I'm not insane am I? grin

Haylebop12 Thu 13-Jun-13 13:21:51

Checking in, will catch up this eve.

Gutted I missed the end of the thread... Really wanted to finish it sad

HotSoupDumpling Thu 13-Jun-13 13:27:02

Checking in! (I won't feel like a proper bus passenger until I have started or ended a thread)

GTbaby Thu 13-Jun-13 13:33:02

Thanks for finishing the thread rox n roo. I got distracted by food. Lol

Natalieand Thu 13-Jun-13 13:35:31

Thanks for your support ladies, i really appreciate it. the spidered coat has now been dealt with. half way through the washing- haven't even started the packing yet but I just had a salad cream and cucumber baguette too cheer myself up lol. And dh is sorting dinner so I don't have too tonight!

I am going to the haven devon cliffs the address says exmouth, so any outing ideas will be greatly appreciated :-)

Very exciting how quick maternity leave is coming round for u all :-) and for thread number 9 that's means we'll be on 17/18 threads by the births if we carry on at this rate lol

GTbaby Thu 13-Jun-13 13:43:53

The race is already on to finish this thread! wink

Wkd. Your not crazy. Just organised. I'm going to start a hospital draw. So I can chuck bits in as I remember them.

I'm working tomorrow, on a phased return to work after mat leave with DS1. So I'm doing 3 weeks full time in july before summer holidays, and a few days between then and now. Then aiming to do 2weeks in sep but more likely to do one.

I think I have 24days in work? shock Whoop n I'm not being given any classes! Bigger whoop. So I'll spend my time office based doing planning work for next year.

Shirehobbit Thu 13-Jun-13 13:48:34

I have 17 days of this term left, then will do 8 days in September. Which makes 25 days left!
Whoop whoop grin

Been to Devon Cliffs a few times grin it's lovely and plenty to do, there's an indoor play area with balls/slides etc for little ones and lots of clubs and activities and a nice pool so u won't be bored, the beach is nice and sheltered (although steep to get down to) Right next door is "the world of country life" bit of an old school park/attraction but that's part of the appeal, again inside play areas and petting area with rabbits etc, our highlight there was "walking" a goat grin crazy little buggers, it was quiet and the worker just left us and the goats were running and butting at each other lol! You will have a fab time and I'm a bit jealous! There's also a spa if u fancy some pampering smile

Natalieand Thu 13-Jun-13 13:55:48

Pampering? Say no more I'm there lol!

Just thought i would check in smile have a fab time in Devon Nat I am sure you will have a fab time xxx

You have inspired me to go camping this weekend now Natxxx

Smitten1981 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:21:31

Urghhh, just popped to the dentist as it's below our office and thought I'd best book a check up due to the amount of sugar I've been munching lately. I was planning on them saying there was a two month wait, like usual, so I could psych myself up for it as I HATE the dentists.

How lucky was I that a space just came up for this afternoon, argh! I have no excuse now. Slightly terrified of that thing they use to scrap off the plaque at the end of a check up, it kills.

Sniffle, sniffle, sniffle

Flyer747 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:39:42

Have lovely holiday Natalie, I have my fingers crossed for you that the weather reports are all incorrect and we have a heatwave starting tomorrow. I'm with you on the spider issue, I hate them! My dad used to chase me around the house with the tops off the tomatoes pretending it was a spider when I was a child, thanks to that I now have a life long phobia....

After a unhealthy lunch yesterday I've redeemed myself and just had grilled halloumi and salad.

My cleaner came today and has knitted me a lovely cardigan in pink!!! She thinks I'm having a girl, however she said she is working on a blue one at the moment just in case, so lovely...it's so tiny and cute.

Flyer747 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:41:17

Good luck at the dentists smitten, not my favourite of places either :-)

Umlauf Thu 13-Jun-13 14:43:19

Thanks for the new thread! Marking my place.

I've just discovered chocolate covered Oreos in the local supermarket so munching my way through a packet of those!

My maternity leave starts a week today, very early as my contract expires then and I can't exactly go back in September! I'm looking forward to being a lady of leisure all summer but worried about getting bored.

Enjoy your holiday Natalie it will be lovely!

Flyer747 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:47:31

Umlauf, you'll be spending all summer in Spain wearing your swimming costume, chilling by a pool getting a tan!!! I'm well jel now...can we swap lives please?! :-)

Slippysnow Thu 13-Jun-13 14:59:58

Thankyou for all the congratulations. Yes it was my 20 week scan. But I am 20 +6 due 25/10. I think I am second to last to scan.

He had a slight jelly baby appearance. V cute.

Thanks for making the new thread.

Flyer747 Thu 13-Jun-13 15:04:45

Congrats slippy, and another boy....x

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 13-Jun-13 16:14:36

Hi all, sorry you're feeling down natalie, but your holiday will be lovely whatever the weather. A change of scene is always good.
Just back from my consultant appt. I'd decided I really want a vbac as can't face another c section recovery with a 14month old and a newborn but he is strongly recommending cs as my scar won't have healed properly and it may rupture. sad. Going to ask for a second opinion and ultimately its my decision but I don't think I'll risk a vbac against a dr's wishes. Hated being sliced open so much though and felt like it took weeks to be me again whereas all the other ladies with normal births were running about in no time.

Umlauf Thu 13-Jun-13 16:30:02

That's if I can find a swimming costume flyer haha! But yes I'm very excited. Ill have no money at all, not entitled to any form of maternity pay or help or benefit or nada, DH still on starting salary so its a struggle. Swings and roundabouts! Tefl jobs run September-June so ill be unemployed for 15 months or so, but luckily its cheaper to live here so hopefully we'll be ok, no choice really!!

Congratulations slippy, another boy to join the gang! Have you thought of names? I love having a gender attached to my bump now it helps me feel like he is real, up until my gender scan I had no attachment to my little parasite, now I do :-)

claphammama Thu 13-Jun-13 17:09:08

Super behind on the thread so just checking in for now!

claphammama Thu 13-Jun-13 17:40:01

have a good holiday natalie and congrats on your boy slippy! can't believe we have another boy...!

warlin re your active baby. DS was the same - it felt like having a built in washing machine inside me! and I'm afraid he is still pretty much the same :-) I remember midwife asking me if I felt 10 movements each day. More like 10 per minute!

pseudo love your way of thinking -
67 working days left for me... seems a lot to be honest but still better than thinking about it in terms of months. so jealous you have so little left umlauf!

MrsO27 Thu 13-Jun-13 17:46:44

Think I have 48 working days left but might need to recount when I'm back in the office tomorrow.

Haylebop12 Thu 13-Jun-13 17:47:21

warlin I too have an extremely active baby, he is on the go near enough constantly. I'm glad I can feel him but my god it's like my stomach is turning all the bloody time.

textbook Thu 13-Jun-13 18:17:23

Thanks for the new thread GT - very accurate title!

I'm full of cold and miserable today, but on the bright side am working from home tomorrow then off to Greece for 2 weeks early Sunday morning. Don't feel too jealous though - I have spent today sorting out VPN and filestore on my iPad as I have to do some critical work while I'm there. Oh well... I'm sure it will be less stressful working with a (weak) Mythos shandy lying on a sun lounger by the pool grin

Right - I'm off to count the exact number of days I have left at work after I get back!

textbook Thu 13-Jun-13 18:20:43

38 days! And I will have some TOIL to take too, so even less really grin

BreeWannabe Thu 13-Jun-13 19:02:11

Hi ladies! smile Wow, I'm now worried that I've put my mat leave start date as a little late after seeing when you're all finishing up... I'm a teacher (in Scotland-2 weeks til the summer holidays!!) so was planning on going back after the holidays for 5 weeks, which means I will finish up on 20th September for a due date of 3rd October... 13 days between finishing and due date. This is my first baby-am I crazy? Should I start it earlier? Have been feeling pretty good so far but I know that could all change!

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Jun-13 19:36:11

I should clarify that my ML starts on the 1st October; I'm taking annual leave from the 11th September.

Haylebop12 Thu 13-Jun-13 19:47:07

33 working daytsssss yay!

bree i dont think its too late to finish work, plus if you go into labour whilst technically still at work they will start it automatically.

Having dd at 37+5 i wanted to ensure I had a few weeks before arrival. Dont reckon i'll be early with this one though!

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Jun-13 19:54:26

I had DS at 38 weeks, I had one week off beforehand.

rubytwosday Thu 13-Jun-13 19:54:27

So glad you asked this bree! I am a teacher too and was thinking of doing 4 weeks after summer hols and finishing a week before my due date. Is this very naive? I do not have many friends with babies but 3 out of 4 of them were over a week late with their first. I want to work as late as possible so that maternity pay lasts longer but would appreciate advice on whether working til 38/9 weeks is really tough?

Shirehobbit Thu 13-Jun-13 20:06:18

I'm a teacher too, Bree and Ruby but am having to finish earlier than I'd like because I haven't been timtabled for September, so my replacement will be in post from the start of term. I'll do two weeks to help start the year off, but can't justify staying longer than that with no classes.

rubytwosday Thu 13-Jun-13 20:31:45

I am hoping not to have any classes either shire but the head has said I can start maternity whenever I want to. Unfortunately decent science teachers seem to be a rareity so no one has been appointed to cover me yet ......!

GTbaby Thu 13-Jun-13 20:34:11

For teacher folks. Last preg I arranged to leave 2weeks before due. I was exhausted by 5/6 weeks before due date. Teaching is a hard job! I ended up leaving earlier.

warin YOU start mat leave when YOU want. It's the schools choice to start your replacement at the start of term (as my school are doing). Do t feel pressurised to start early.

GTbaby Thu 13-Jun-13 20:35:44

SORRY I meant shire not warin.

legallyblond Thu 13-Jun-13 20:40:29

Bree I finished work 6 days before my due date with DD. She was 2 weeks late, so all was fine! I was supposed to finish a week earlier, but just kept going as I felt totally fine.

favellio Thu 13-Jun-13 20:46:59

Hello shiny new thread grin
Just sorted my maternity leave. I'm due on 9th Oct. I finish on 6th sept, taking 3 week A/L then starting mat leave on 30th Sept and going back to work on 30th June 2014.......wow, it seems like a crazy long time when it's written down blush

PseudoBadger Thu 13-Jun-13 20:58:35

Yes Shire - you choose the date. If that means you work alongside your replacement, even if that means there's no work, it's still your right.

I am a teacher too. I haven't confirmed when my maternity leave will start yet. I initially thought of stopping at 36 weeks or even not going back at all in September. But I am not sure now, particularly as I will have had the summer holidays to rest and get things ready, I wonder if working as long as possible to get more money would be a good idea. Also DH won't be able to take the time of to spend with me so if I am overdue it would just be up to 6 lonely weeks.

Shirehobbit Thu 13-Jun-13 21:18:13

I appreciate I could stay longer, but I suspect I will feel useless, like I am wasting time, and in the way if I kept going in beyond two weeks into the term.
Also, as I am going to be battling for p/t work for when I return, I don't want to annoy them unnecessarily. Yet wink

BreeWannabe Thu 13-Jun-13 22:22:29

Hmm... Thanks ladies. Perhaps I'll reconsider and go a little earlier. I'd rather have more time with the baby which is why I wanted to try to go on as long as I can. My replacement is already in post actually as we have lots of staff changes happening at the moment, so they're happy for me to do what I like. I suppose I can always go earlier if I'm not feeling up to it...?

I'm in a similar position to shire. We start back at the end of August so I'm planning to go back for 2 weeks and leave as teaching starts (teach in a 6th form college so we enrol etc for a week or 2). My cover will start straight away but I know I would have to take on classes- or worse still, team teach- if I stay once students are in. If I go up to due date I will have a long sounding 6 weeks at home, but my journey is 1.5-2hrs each way on the tube and I'm fed up with it already!

moonblues Thu 13-Jun-13 22:54:38

I've worked until 38 weeks with both my DCs and planning to work til 38 weeks again this time, though very jealous of you ladies who are finishing earlier. Probably will only be able to take 6 months off so wanting to save most of it til after the baby arrives. I did get tired towards the end, but coped ok.
Might be eating my words in another few months! Might take another week holiday to finish at 37wks, but will see how I get on.

moonblues Thu 13-Jun-13 23:05:19

shootingstars you have my sympathy. I wanted a VBAC too, but my DD was breech and they wouldn't try to turn her because of my previous section. My second section was easier than my first, but it was a pain not being able to lift my DS up, though he got very good at clambering up on my knee.
On the plus side at least my pelvic floor is still fairly intact smile

With DD1 I was due to finish at 34 weeks but as I felt so well spread my holiday out and went part time till I finished at 36+4, had my daughter 3 days later! Finished at 36 wks with DD2 and had her on my due date, this one I'll finish at 35-36 wks as DD2 starting school, and baby will come at some point grin

JethroTull Fri 14-Jun-13 06:55:06

I think I'm planning to work as long as possible. My due date based on the IVF treatment is 7th Oct but the hospital have given me 30th Sept based on the baby's size. I've also joined a medical trial for women over 35 that may mean I get induced at 39 weeks. I find out in August so am keeping my mat leave date flexible until then.

Sanjifair Fri 14-Jun-13 07:05:05

Hi all, back from my holiday and catching up on the thread. I stopped work at 38 weeks last time, DS came at 42 weeks. Finishing at 38 weeks this time too. Hoping this baby won't be quite so late, but I was fine working to 38 weeks last time and this pregnancy seems to be similar, so fingers crossed it'll work out.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Fri 14-Jun-13 09:28:06

I went on Maternity Leave pretty early with DD (34 weeks and she was a week late too) and it was truly fabulous!! DD is a Christmas baby so I got to potter around doing bits of Christmas shopping, leisurely write my cards whilst watching films etc.. It was one of the nicest times of my life and I'm so glad I had that chunk of freedom before DD well and truly exploded into my life.

It's making me smile to hear all the teachers looking forward to the summer holidays - I'm the opposite - dreading being increasingly heavily pregnant with a lively 6 year old to entertain for weeks on end. Thankfully we've got a holiday planned and various bits and bobs lined up, but it's going to be a loooonnng summer.

claphammama Fri 14-Jun-13 10:28:48

I'm with you on the summer holidays bridget. We have holidays in Greece planned for early August but it's only 11 days so have to figure out what to do with an active 5 year old boy otherwise. Planning holiday clubs etc... only delivering him to these holiday clubs, having to get the car and drive in London at 8am and then 6pm on top of my tube commute, is going to be a nightmare. Plus, DS is an August baby and I remember how swollen I was in July (it was a scorcher)... puffy feet, buying shoes two sizes bigger than my normal size etc...

I'm also with you on early maternity leave - with DS I stopped working at 36 weeks and had him at 39 weeks. I had 3 lovely weeks for myself, just pottering around, meeting friends for lunch, preparing the house, buying last things, reading in the garden... I loved that time. I really recommend it if people can afford it. This time I'm planning to finish 27th September and I'm due on 22nd October, 2 weeks will be the remaining annual leave and then maternity. I want to work as long as possible as I don't think I will be going back so we are trying to sort out all the decorating now and pay off our mortgage as much as we can while I still work. I know being a SAHM may have its lows but at least we won't be sinking under dirty laundry like we do right now!! I find doing things in the evening practically impossible now and our weekends are busy.

So this is my exciting weekend planned! Laundry, more laundry... but also delivery of the changing unit (can't wait!) and our decorator is coming tomorrow to paint our bedroom and dressing room. We are going to flip the colour scheme and going for coffee walls and white blinds... hope it's going to work...

Hope everyone has lovely weekend plans and hopefully less laundry than me! :-)

HotSoupDumpling Fri 14-Jun-13 10:36:29

Clapham - newly painted walls are really exciting (I think!). But then I'm getting much satisfaction from clearing out my cupboards.

I have been an eating FIEND this morning. Two slices of buttered toast (50% brown bread, 50% butter sliding all over the top), smoked trout, hummus, plum, yoghurt. Feel a bit sick now though...

claphammama Fri 14-Jun-13 10:46:24

oooo... clearing out cupboards sounds equally exciting... basically, anything that satisfies the nesting instinct and gets the house "ready"!

I also had a relatively big breakfast (at 10am!) and am planning to have a substantial lunch at 12pm - sod it!

roofio87 Fri 14-Jun-13 10:51:36

I'm also busier in the summer running a play scheme for 30 5-11 year olds!! Eek!! should be fun though!confused

roofio87 Fri 14-Jun-13 11:15:05

I just read that baby can now hear me (24wks today!) so picked up one of the books I've bought for him and read it out loud and he started kicking away like mad, my tummy was bouncing all over the place!! Haha. complete coincidence I'm sure but still made my heart melt!!smile

Flyer747 Fri 14-Jun-13 11:24:02

Sat in work feeling very down! I have the worse manager i've ever had the dissatisfaction of working for...She is truly awful, all her team keep leaving she is a bitch and a bully. I so desperatly want to leave, however my only other option is to be placed somewhere at heathrow. I am currently 30 mins from where i live (liverpool) however as my base is heathrow this is the only option if i were to leave here! I dread coming into work, although I only do 3 days per week. The other week my manager only spoke to me at 4.30pm she ignored me all day until then. She is like Jekyll and Hyde....The icing on the cake came today when one of the girls informed me we have an instore snitch (the shop is based inside debenhams) who is keeping a check on what time we arrive, leave and take lunch and reporting back to our manager! It feels like i'm at school again. Sorry for the rant, i'm just not used to this bitchy, childish behaviour in my job before starting here. I'm truly lost for words...

NotYoMomma Fri 14-Jun-13 12:09:46

Hi everyone, been away AGES!

Had my 20 week scan on Monday and its a girl! So I'll have 2 girls and thats my lot!

havent caught up on all the threads, are you on facebook yet?

had a problem with a bully at work but as of this week (thanks to my persistance and manager) he has been demoted and removed from my work environment completely! Yey

ComtessedeFrouFrou Fri 14-Jun-13 13:17:44

That's funny Roofio because I was at a do last night and there was lots of talking etc then music and lots of kiccking from the sproglet. Seems he or she liked it!

I am also getting these weird tight feelings in the evenings - those of you who've had DC before are these Braxton Hicks?

claphammama Fri 14-Jun-13 13:52:56

this sounds awful flyer! But sounds like she is like this with everyone so it's not at all personal? And you don't have to go back there after your maternity leave right? You are back to flying then? Have you tried to count how many working days you actually have left? pseudo's inspired idea from yesterday which made us all feel much better! It feels so much more manageable when you think about it in terms of days. And I went through similar spying when I worked for Samsung in the past... every Friday afternoon President Kim got a print out showing when everyone came in, left etc... it felt terrible. I left after 6 months! So count these days :-)

congrats on your girl notyomomma! very few girls on this thread! And yes, we have a facebook group. gtbaby is our facebook specialist so PM her or me with your real name and I will try to add you! I'm sure I will manage to figure it out.

comtesse yes, this is how they felt for me - like my tummy turned into a stone, very tight and very hard for a few minutes. I started getting them about 3 weeks ago.

Flyer747 Fri 14-Jun-13 14:34:53

45 days in work!! The sooner that comes around the better....Yes claphammama she is like this with everyone, infact i probably get treated a bit better as I used to fly with her so i actually know her, she has changed somewhat over the years though! Thank goodness I can return to my former job pre pregnancy where none of this bitchness happens on my flights....I just like a nice easy work life, no stress or hassles! Roll on day 45 woohoo

claphammama Fri 14-Jun-13 15:01:07

by the way, can you balance this spreadsheet a bit with your girl please notyomomma?

anyone else who is not there?

I am having a very productive day in the office as you can see... :-) I am actually so bored today that I'm considering re-arranging all entries by due date... exciting...!!

pinkmoonlight Fri 14-Jun-13 15:19:56

I'm a teacher too and cannot wait for the summer! I'm working until 27th September (management jobs on a laptop somewhere rather than having a class) and due on 25th October. Sneaking back for the last 2 weeks of July before being off for the summer on full pay grin I too am getting far too much enjoyment from sorting out the house and chucking all the clutter out!

Smitten1981 Fri 14-Jun-13 15:20:04

Flyer It's a bit like that where I work too sometimes, there's an office mole who snitches you up to the MD, it's ridiculous.

We went to Ikea last night and got a great chair and footstall in place of a proper nursing chair, it's so comfortable. I'll link it up!


Haylebop12 Fri 14-Jun-13 15:49:35

I had a same chair with dd smitten but a cheaper version. It's currently in my bedroom collecting clothes but will be pulled back out for night feeds. Good idea about footstool although I wouldn't fit one in my room.

Jealous of all you's painting your nurseries! Baby will be in with us until we move which will either be march/sept next year!

Sorry to hear about you work situ flyer but at least you got the "counting down till mat leave" game grin

hello all - haven't posted for ages but have been trying to keep up with everyone's news (though have forgotten most of it!).

Have 50 days left at work - which as I'm finishing 23rd August seems a lot compared to some of you! Am preferring to think of it in terms of Monday's - only 10 Monday morning's left! This thread makes me want to be a teacher - very jealous of your summer hols then going to straight to maternity leave!

Had managed to motivate myself slightly at work (hence not posting for a bit) but after having a disagreement with my boss on Monday (resulting in me crying and walking out of my review - not my most dignified moment!) am back to can't be arsed again smile.

I was looking at that chair earlier smitten - think I may be investing in one shortly. Didn't bother last time, but was frankly rubbish at staying awake during night feeds when in bed I'm going to give a chair a go this time.

Have to go out tonight and can't be bothered - although sunshine has just come out in West London so feeling slightly more motivated.

Trying to work up the energy to nest - you ladies are putting me to shame with your decorating, purchases and hospital bags!

Is anyone planning on a cheeky private scan in the last few months?

Far too many ! in my post - apologies grin

cazboldy Fri 14-Jun-13 16:05:38

just added myself..... have put in in the ? column rather than the girl column though..... still not convinced grin

MrsO27 Fri 14-Jun-13 16:18:49

I got the Boliden chair smitten, just because it was a bit narrower and the foot stool was smaller. It doesnt rock, but kind of bounces a bit!

cazboldy Fri 14-Jun-13 17:01:17

literally just bought my pushchair (travelsystem so carseat too) to be delivered to mum and dad's as we haven't much spare room for a massive box! hope they won't mind!

mothercare have 15% off online until tomorrow when you spend over £100 if anyone is interested, and the pushchair was already in the sale at £99, so, bargain!! grin

HotSoupDumpling Fri 14-Jun-13 17:21:25

Oooh loads of my friends have the Ikea Poang.. pity I have no space for it... I always fantasised about having a rocking chair, but no luck.

TheCatIsUpTheDuff Fri 14-Jun-13 18:17:53

DH had a rocking chair for his 21st birthday! At the moment it's in my mum's garage due to lack of space, but I'm hoping to reclaim it once we get rid of the spare bed.

Mum has been rootling about in the loft and found stuff from when I was a baby; beautiful little cardigans and blankets that Grandma made for me and a few pretty little dresses that don't seem to have suffered from 30-odd years' storage, and we've had loads of clothes and random bits of baby stuff from family and friends. There's a LOT more pink than if I'd chosen it. I keep having to tell myself that I don't have to like it just because it's free!

I'm planning on finishing on 26th September with a due date of 22nd October. We're hoping to go away for that weekend, which is our first wedding anniversary. DH and I were both a week or two early, so I won't be surprised if this one turns up a week or two either side of the EDD. Work are being lovely, so if I'm enormous and not coping, I don't think they'll give me a hard time for finishing earlier.

Sorry to hear work is rubbish flyer. At least you know you won't be going back there.

The man we booked to do our painting yesterday and today was in a car accident. He is ok but not able to do the work. (Not the one you suggested Clapham, the man that fixed our floorboards also does decorating and is cheap). So DH is doing the decorating himself tonight and this weekend while I write reports. We have already moved everything out of the bedrooms and want it done soon so we can finally get things ready for the baby. We also have a dinner tomorrow and a picnic on Sunday with friends so going to be a very busy weekend!

My petite maxi dresses have arrived today which I am excited about trying on. They are not maternity, I was very uninspired by the selection of maternity dresses I tried on Tuesday. Hopefully one of these will fit to wear to a wedding next weekend. Lots of people commenting this week on how big I am getting. Whoever said "sod it" to eating lots, I have also adopted that frame of mind. Not eating rubbish, but eating as much as I feel like of normal good foods.

I read that having low placenta can be linked to anaemia in the baby. Not sure why that would be the case other than the increased risk of bleeding (which thankfully I haven't had so far), but sounds like a good reason to eat lots of iron rich nutty cereal bars yum yum.

Flyer747 Fri 14-Jun-13 19:17:39

Orange the selection of maternity wear is pretty lame isn't it! I'd like to open up an online shop selling nice affordable maternity wear, I've mentioned it to DP and he thinks it's a good idea....One thing from being pregnant is I've noticed what terrible choice in maternity wear there is. And that seems to be the general census on here. It'll probably come to nothing but you never know.

claphammama Fri 14-Jun-13 20:00:52

oh... so sorry about you painter orange (is your DH good at decorating?) and, very selfishly, so glad it's not our guy as he is supposed to come tomorrow morning to do our bedroom! We have an old Victorian house with lots of cracked walls so could never do the repair work ourselves.

love your new chair smitten! may have to invest in one too

He is ok, we decorated our hallway and a bedroom before, but it takes ages, lots of swearing and not always a perfect finish. And we won't be doing any of the filling cracks or plastering over old rawl plugs that a decorator would have done, just whacking on a lick of paint so the rooms aren't orange and purple anymore (the previous owner had interesting tastes!) I am sure it will be fine though and have resolved not to moan at any imperfections as I am not helping do it. I have just spent an hour washing down the walls and hoovering the edges with a mini vac which is a bit DH doesn't like doing. Knackered already! Come downstairs to make dinner and avoid paint fumes, just in case they are bad for the baby. Probably over cautious but just don't know.

Flyer definitely I think there is a market for better maternity clothes. It is a time when you HAVE to buy new things and want everything to be nice. Especially for larger/smaller/taller/shorter people. We are wondering about me setting up my own business too if i decide not to go back to teaching for a while. Selling "free from" wedding cakes, cakes, sweets, biscuits etc online. I have looked into registering with the council, ordered a booklet on food safety regulations etc from food standards agency but got no further than that. Not sure how much resolve I will have with a new baby and have only done three wedding cakes so might need a bit more practice with the big jobs but might be a good project for me.

Shootingstarsandcomets Fri 14-Jun-13 20:34:36

Wish your shop was open now flyer! I've spent the last hour searching for nice maternity stuff online and anything decent is also expensive and I just refuse to pay so much for clothes I will never wear again.
I'm in bed now feeling a bit achey and rubbish so hoping ds sleeps through and I get 11 hours sleep- this is unlikely!!
Have a good weekend all. Good luck painting orange

JethroTull Fri 14-Jun-13 22:33:20

I'm with you all on the lack of good maternity clothes. I got one nice jumper from Mamma&Pappa's and a maxi dress from Top Shop. Other than that am living in Mothercare jeggings and men's shirts!

Flyer your boss sounds like a right bitch. Hopefully you can get by with your last few weeks without too much stress.

Haylebop12 Fri 14-Jun-13 23:00:08

Also think maternity wear is a nightmare! I was 20 when I got pregnant with dd and everything seemed so grown up! Not too bad now and I found eBay pretty useful but I've come to the conclusion I won't particularly feel good until I'm back in my old clothes smile

Soupqueen Sat 15-Jun-13 08:38:14

I'm exceedingly envy of all the mat leave countdowns and holidays coming up. I started counting my days left but when I reached 50 with plenty to go, I stopped in a grump!

I'm due 14 October, planning to start mat leave at 38 weeks, 1 week holiday before that at 37 weeks but no other holidays planned so I'm working full time until end September. I'm sure it'll fly in, just seems like a long time just now.

Has anyone else not really started getting organised yet? I don't really know where to start and it's all a bit daunting. I thought we still had plenty of time but my father in law is horrified that we've not started and doesn't think we have enough time left hmm

favellio Sat 15-Jun-13 08:41:37

I got some lovely maternity clothes on the New Look website. Lots of maternity leggings and long vests really cheap and also a couple of lovely dresses :-)

pinkbuttons Sat 15-Jun-13 09:03:12

Just checking in to the new thread. Have had a mad last week at work so not had chance to keep up.
Sorry to hear about bullying boss flyer, very exciting to hear days till maternity leave.
I guess Im on maternity leave as of now, were moving house next week so hve left work early, I ended up being signed off at 35 weeks with DS and got very bored, but luckily will have him to keep me entertained this time grin am thinking it will give me a better idea of whether I will want to be a SAHM after this babies born. Any money I earn will go on childcare so it isnt financially helpful at all.

We havent got anything organised at all soupqueen all of our stuff from DS is spread around the country with various freinds so were going to have to travel round to get it all. the only thing weve bought is a pink vest smile
24 weeks today and have reached my first goal, any tips on what the next goal should be? 38 weeks seems so far away still.

favellio Sat 15-Jun-13 09:03:24

We're not particularly organised yet either, soupqueen. We've got some small bits like baby grows, nappies and teddies but haven't got any of the big things like cot, buggy etc yet. We live in a tiny 1 bedroom flat, so leaving the big things til as late as possible to save on storage space.

GTbaby Sat 15-Jun-13 09:44:44

Soup dont worry! Nothing a trip to mothercare won't fix. Babies don't need much.

Somewhere to sleep - Moses basket/cot. Blankets and sheets.
Something to wear - 7 baby grows and vests. Buy more once baby is born and you know what size you need.
Something to eat - very easy if bf. if not you get starter kits with steriliser and bottles included.
Car seat to get home in.

EVerything else can be bought after baby is here. I'm not saying buy everything at the last minute. I'm just saying its daunting, you think you need loads. But really you don't NEED much and everything CAN be bought in one day.
Eg I'm still finishing up decorating DS1 bedroom, 8 months after he was born. Lol

TheCatIsUpTheDuff Sat 15-Jun-13 11:15:55

Can anyone recommend good and not too expensive maternity tights?

Soupqueen Sat 15-Jun-13 11:22:05

I'm really struggling with tights too. The best I've found so far are John Lewis but at £9 a pop for something I'm likely to put my thumb through the first time I use them......

I got some Seraphine ones, slightly cheaper at £8 but the fit is dreadful, the crotch makes its way to my knees between hoicking trips to the loo. I wish I worked somewhere where bare legs was appropriate!

I bought some tights from John Lewis but put a hole in the crotch the first time I wore them and found they fell down after the first wear, though that may have been I because I was wearing them with a small bump at 12ish weeks. Now I just wear normal tights in a bigger size. They were about £6 I think they were the seraphine brand.

Four of the 6 maxi dresses dresses I ordered are nice, guess what I will be wearing this summer! So nice to have a splash of colour, I seem to live in black or navy stripes at the moment.

Soupqueen Sat 15-Jun-13 12:12:21

Where did you get them orange? I love the idea of maxi dresses for summer.

Smitten1981 Sat 15-Jun-13 12:22:55

I just got a great maxi dress from Primark @asos. I ordered it in a size bigger and it's fab for a tenner.

char1eston Sat 15-Jun-13 12:47:53

Hello ladies
I seem to have managed to miss the last 2 threads so will be making an effort to keep up to date from now.
25 weeks now and 3 months til I go on mat leave but I do have some time off in between and only work 3 days a week grin
Got a migraine at the mo and am in bed feeling sorry for myself.
Hope you're all doing well

I got them from wallis and debenhams soup. In a size or two bigger than pre-pregnancy to accommodate bigger boobs mainly.

ComtessedeFrouFrou Sat 15-Jun-13 13:44:55

The Debenhams maternity tights are good, 2 for £10, but they do creep south a bit.

Shootingstarsandcomets Sat 15-Jun-13 14:09:27

We're going over to some friends for a late lunch afternoon thing today and I have squeezed into a pair of non maternity jeans! Feeling rather pleased with myself!!

How the hell have you managed that Shooting? I can't even get my jeans over my hips.

Shirehobbit Sat 15-Jun-13 17:16:06

I won't even try - it's bound to depress me!

My ten minute nap just lasted two hours. Oops blush

Smitten1981 Sat 15-Jun-13 18:45:38

Hurrah - I bought the buggy today which means no more obsessing.

We went for the Mamas & Papas Sola in the end. Also found the Maxi Cosi Pebble carseat in John Lewis for £127 instead of the £167 it was as Mamas & Papas. Feeling thrifty now!

Slippysnow Sat 15-Jun-13 19:48:08

Good thrifty savings smitten I also bought the pebble, we got it with the family fix base, dp found a bargain (as always) but I can't remember the specific price. The family fix base goes with the cabriofix seat which we bought for £80, but now a friend has offered her one and its too late to take ours back... Teach us a lesson for being overly organised

Slippysnow Sat 15-Jun-13 19:52:08


Has anyone bought anything for their bumps dads? I spent ages (last min) shopping for a baby gro with something to do with loving dad or another cute slogan, found nothing being sold individually and didn't want mum all over it. I was really surprised considering tomorrow was Father's Day. In the end I found a tshirt for 6-9 months saying daddy's little side kick.

Shootingstarsandcomets Sat 15-Jun-13 19:57:12

Ha ha well jeans are undone now we've eaten so didnt last long!!

Sparkeleigh Sat 15-Jun-13 20:30:04

Hey all, I think I've missed a few threads, I was away for a few weeks so I've a lot of catching up to do!

My bump is properly out now and I've got only 2 pairs of trousers that fit me, I need to go shopping! I've got my 20 week scan on Monday though I'll be 21 weeks, I can't wait to see the baby, he or she has been kicking like mad, DH thought I was exaggerating until he felt it too!

Hope everyone is keeping well smile

PenelopeLane Sat 15-Jun-13 20:59:18

I am leaving work at 34 + 1 but tempted to leave earlier! I probably won't for money reasons but it's very tempting as I have quite a full on job and want to have some time at home while I'm still productive. We'll see - I have 10 weeks left which isn't that long I suppose.

With DS I hoped to leave work at 37 weeks but due to high blood pressure got sent off by the MW at 36 weeks. I thought I'd go barmy at home but ended up having 5 weeks at home as DS was late and loved it. I'd always been a bit busy and focussed career obsessed before so it was good for me to spend that time getting into the rhythm of being at home. That was just me though, everyone's different. I know people that worked till 38 weeks, had baby at 39 weeks, and would so it all again.

But, maybe I just want to go off early as work's been full on recently and I want a break! I've booked in some leave for about 3 weeks away (and booked them for DS's creche days as well) so am hoping that a couple of days at home will recharge my batteries.

PseudoBadger Sat 15-Jun-13 21:22:54

Gah I've had a headache all day sad

MrsO27 Sat 15-Jun-13 23:11:59

Struggling with maternity jeans/jeggings. Got a pair of "on the bump" ones which were fine for a while but now my bump is bigger it makes the elastic flip over and roll down. Got a pair of "over the bump" ones now and after an hour or so they're about round my knees! Don't seem to have any grip around the hips, if that makes sense. They're both from mamas and papas so wondering if its a fit thing with their clothes. Can anyone recommend a good stockist of maternity jeans? If I can just get one pair which are a good fit I'll be happy! Either that or I'm going to need to wear braces hmm

Smitten1981 Sat 15-Jun-13 23:18:54

The only decent ones I've found have been the New Look under bump maternity ones with the wide elasticated band at the top.

PseudoBadger Sat 15-Jun-13 23:23:03

Can I be really patronising and make sure that you've got the adjustable waist done as tight as you need it MrsO?

PseudoBadger Sat 15-Jun-13 23:23:32

Because I love my M&P jeans

Flyer747 Sat 15-Jun-13 23:40:05

MrsO the only ones I liked were Topshop maternity Jeans..

CocktailSausage Sat 15-Jun-13 23:54:47

Hello Ladies,
I completely missed the last thread as I've been very busy. Well I'm no longer working. This means I get to spend some time with ds before the baby arrives and he starts nursery - So not a bad thing really.

The headaches have returned though. It could be iron deficiency. I had this last time.
I haven't been getting heartburn as such but I do find if I've eaten a big meal it seems to sit in my gullet (nice) So I have been back on the old friend Gaviscon.

Baby is always moving and the nesting instinct has fully kicked in. I'm forever being annoyed by dirt, I can't seem to stop cleaning.

I've added myself to the spreadsheet.grin

CocktailSausage Sun 16-Jun-13 00:07:47

Btw don't buy the Primark maternity jeans - they go baggy very quickly and you'll forever be hoicking them up.

ComtessedeFrouFrou Sun 16-Jun-13 05:00:00

I've got three pairs of maternity jeans - a M & P pair of straight leg, a Debenhams pair of jeggings (horrible word) and a Debenhams pair of skinnies. All are under the bump.

The Debenhams skinnies are the most successful - the M & P pair need hoiking up constantly, despite the adjustable tabs, but are comfy enough.

What I have worked out is that if my knickers are too small, that encourages jeans (and knicker!) creep so that I have to hoik more frequently.

The jeggings are good - I never had a pair before pregnancy, but they are comfortable.

I am 5'4" though and they are all too long.

HotSoupDumpling Sun 16-Jun-13 06:28:48

I love my Topshop skinnies - they came in several different lengths and colours. They are supposedly under the bump, but at this stage in pregnancy they sit in the bump - there is a bit of an un flattering ledge where the elasticated bit ends though.

Tights - H and M ones are great, no falling down so far!

Has anyone else got an itchy belly?

PseudoBadger Sun 16-Jun-13 07:57:47

I've never managed to find tights in h&m sad

MrsO27 Sun 16-Jun-13 08:15:53

Thanks all but I think pseudo may have hit the nail on the head. Didn't even notice those sneaky, but amazing, little waist adjusters! Can I blame baby brain so I don't look as thick? wink Will give the (adjusted) jeans another try today and fingers crossed that works.
P.S. No issues with the knickers comtessed, I've been in big pants for weeks now! It's the best thing I've done.

MrsO27 Sun 16-Jun-13 08:18:06

P.S. I get an itchy belly hotsoup, now and again. Think someone mentioned before it's related to the skin stretching.

ComtessedeFrouFrou Sun 16-Jun-13 08:32:08

Trouble is MrsO is that my usual glamorous and oh so sexy Marks and Spencer high legs tend to roll down a bit against the irresistible force of my swollen tummy, so the low ride ones are nicer, just not with jeans!

I have gap maternity jeans which are under bump and nice quality.

I too need to get bigger knickers, keep buying the next size up but they dig in and in and in tight maternity jersey material clothes the bulges looks awful. On 10-12 and was previously a 6. Not looking forward to my first 14-16 purchase. sad Much happier about growing boobs and tummy and I guess I would topple over if I didn't balance it out at the back but doesn't seem necessary for growing the baby.

I have a really sore throat with spots all over the back of my throat including one where my tonsil used to be. I will be so upset if I still have enough tonsil tissue left to get tonsillitis after the pain of getting them removed. Just having honey, lemon and ginger and hoping it sorts itself out soon.

Still working on writing school reports. They tske so long! Head sent an email this morning asking me to send them to her as soon as they are ready but not sent to whole staff and the deadline is not until next weekend so ignoring that one. Got a picnic this afternoon with some good friends which has been moved to one of their houses as will probably rain. Quite pleased as it means I can have a seat. My coccyx has been quite sore and my back stiff the last few days. Generally just falling apart...

MrsO27 Sun 16-Jun-13 10:14:42

I bought M&S 'full briefs' (yep, you heard me right!) in a size up and for now they cover my belly and give me a bit of support. They are passion killers, but oh so very comfy and secure! It won't be long before they start rolling down though with the ever increasing bump and I'll have to go back to ones that don't sit under my armpits sad

roofio87 Sun 16-Jun-13 10:22:24

I like my primark maternity jeans, I wear a belt with them though!! I have a couple of pairs of Jojo mamen bebe jeans my sister gave me and I've never had such good fitting jeans in my life!! they are a size smaller than.I would normally go for so I was surprised they fit but they're perfect!!

Flyer747 Sun 16-Jun-13 10:37:49

I'm with you all on the passion killing full belly smacker knickers! I don't care though just like comfort these days.

I've just ordered my first Fruit & Veg box from a company called able&cole and I have to say I'm impressed. I went to my friends the other night and she has them delivered to her door weekly, and the quality was really good, all organic and the carrots were so sweet, much better than supermarket fruit & veg. They also do a baby box for £12.50 per week so when the baby starts on solids you can purée the fruit and veg, knowing its all organic, I'm sold on the idea...probably loads of you have heard of this already.

They sell meat and loads of other stuff too and we had burgers for dinner 100% organic and they were so tasty, and all the prices worked out roughly not much more than you'd spend in the supermarket!

TheCatIsUpTheDuff Sun 16-Jun-13 10:45:43

I like my Primark skinnies too! I've tried various others but they all fall down, so I think I'll be mostly in leggings. My thighs now rub, which they never did before, so my pretty floaty skirts and dresses are a lot less appealing.

rubytwosday Sun 16-Jun-13 10:51:06

I have some Asos maternity jeans which aren't bad but do need hoicking up if I bend down. OrangeI know exactly how you feel! Was staying with friends last weekend and they have a full length mirror in the bathroom so saw full length naked me for the first time in quite a while. My bum is massive! At least as big as my belly - definitely need bigger knickers!

cazboldy Sun 16-Jun-13 11:01:02

I hate all maternity clothes! just buy stetchy in the next size up!

Expensive tat that makes you look horrible!

claphammama Sun 16-Jun-13 11:31:53

I also have maternity wardrobe issues and fail to feel even vaguely attractive most of these days. Big pants only, my jeans crotch somewhere near my knees and the elasticated band keeps rolling down... can't remember having so many issues when pregnant with DS1. Luckily my company's dress code is such that I can live in my jeans or even shorts and flip flops if I wish. No idea how I would manage formal wardrobe right now... still, would like to look and feel better.

flyer lots of people in our area get abel & cole and we also do it quite often. I love it - such an easy way to eat healthily and I also find that I get to cook and experiment with different veg I wouldn't buy otherwise. Also hooked on organic meat. More expensive but tastes so much better... the problem is - once you get used to food tasting like this, there is no going back!!

Just about to go for a walk in the common and get some caffeine for the baby. Stopped feeling guilty about it - one thing I can't give up... need some energy as DS has been a nightmare the last couple of days, probably because the weather had been crap and he hasn't been out. Boys really are like little dogs - need to be walked whatever the weather or go crazy otherwise.

Shirehobbit Sun 16-Jun-13 12:11:53

Off to the in-laws for lunch.
Give me the strength to rise above all the inappropriate comments, no matter how well intentioned...
<deep breaths>

Flyer747 Sun 16-Jun-13 12:17:25

Can I ask a stupid question. I have seen a swinging crib for sale on eBay it comes with bedding and a mattress it has been fully assembled and states it has never been used. I want to bid on it but it's worrying me why it hasn't been used, (is it jinxed, silly superstitions) would any of you ladies on here buy it?

Smitten1981 Sun 16-Jun-13 13:05:52

Flyer - yes. People probably get a lot of things that they think they will use but don't. Probably a case of that rather than anything that might jinx you!

HannahLaRouge Sun 16-Jun-13 16:14:09

Wow, these threads move quickly smile hope all are feeling well. Had our 20 week scan on Monday (now 21+1) and we're having a boy, so excited!

Haylebop12 Sun 16-Jun-13 16:34:42

Congrats ok your boy hannah they really are taking over the thread.

My pram chassis came today. It's the same push chair I had with dd but I've ordered the two handled chassis as I previously had the one handled version. Didn't find it very practical for shopping. I also didn't have the carrycot with dd but considering getting it as we walk to school and back most days and until 6 months ill be using the car seat on the frame. As they don't make this push chair anymore I have had to order on eBay but got a chassis for £30 and can get the carrycot for around £50. Bargain!

Haylebop12 Sun 16-Jun-13 16:35:55

I feel like all the big spend items are sorted and everything else needed is small. Trying to get as much now before I got on mat leave and drop in wages!

Wickedgirl Sun 16-Jun-13 17:11:20

I am finishing work in 6 weeks when I'll be 30 weeks although my boss has said that if I need to leave earlier that's fine. I can't wait.

Shootingstarsandcomets Sun 16-Jun-13 19:25:55

Yes flyer we do Abel and cole in this house and I love it! Also we do graze boxes - get invoked with those! Healthy snacks delivered to your door! Hope everyone's had a good father and father to be day!

Had a lovely indoor picnic at friends house today with a bit of outdoor time when the sun came out. Really tired after two socialising days in a row. My best friend is trying for a second baby, it will be lovely to have ours close together.

xuntitledx Sun 16-Jun-13 19:37:06

Just catching up on the new thread, lots to update on!

My maternity leave will also be starting on 6 September (using annual leave until the end of the month) and I'm due on 6 October so imagine I will be glad of the break before baba comes.

Hubby and I have been nesting ALL week as we've had a weeks annual leave and we've managed to clear the spare room and decorate. Still have a few touch ups to do but that can wait until next weekend.

Planning on booking a private scan also but thinking of waiting until around August time to break up the wait!

For those of us with anterior placentas, I'm really starting to feel strong kicks and squirms (24 weeks) so if you're still early and not feeling much yet then hopefully it won't be much longer for you either.

In regards to maternity wear, I've bought some fab jeans from Next - had to hem them but they fit really well and make me feel less of a dumpy pregnant lady and more like myself.

Finally, very TMI so forgive me but does anybody else have crusty nipples?! Google suggests colostrum (dried) but just wanted to check that I'm not alone!

ComtessedeFrouFrou Sun 16-Jun-13 19:46:40

Yes to slightly crusty nipples.

You lot are so organised! We have an early Oct due date and I've picked up a few things (and we've bought the buggy) but the nursery is still being decorated so I haven't really started buying yet. Picked up a bargain second hand change table on eBay for about 6 quid, so that's in the garage waiting for the decorating to finish.

Yes on the nipples untitled. I have white/almost orange bits in the cracks and then they are also dry, white, cracked and crusty. I am not sure of it is early colostrum or not as I have had it for weeks and that seems early for it to start but perhaps. Have never seen any wet liquid. I am just putting facial moisturiser on for the moment until I get round to buying some nipple cream.

Too much sharing?!

roxvox Sun 16-Jun-13 20:44:44

Evening ladies.

I am supremely jealous of those of you nesting! I've got the in-laws (DH's parents, brother and sister in law, plus niece) coming to stay the last weekend in July, and will need the 'nursery' to be a double bedroom until then. It's killing me not being able to buy stuff, but we need to save room until early August.

DH and I visited the new Kiddicare near us today and I got to show him the britax affinity. We both love it, and I like the idea of the Britax car seats, so it's perfect for us as it's so easy to clip the car seat in and out etc. The only colours we liked were the blue and the purple though... So we've decided that that's the pram we want, and DH will order the colour choice in October when we know whether we have a boy or girl! I have an image in my mind of DH being already on the phone to kiddicare when I give the last push that delivers our baby!

claphammama Sun 16-Jun-13 22:15:32

roxvox be careful and ask how long you will have to wait. My friend ordered her buggy 4 weeks before her due date and it was supposed to arrive in 3 weeks. She had her baby 2 weeks early and the little girl is now 6 weeks. She is still waiting for the buggy... something went wrong with her order, things got lost, noone notified her etc...

I need to wash bits from DS's buggy to get it ready for the new baby (it's bright orange!) but procrastinating as really scared to take them off and not be able to put them back again... there are so many!

Sunday blues thinking of being back at work tomorrow... DS has been a nightmare the whole weekend. Exhausting battle of wills!

roxvox Sun 16-Jun-13 22:38:48

Thanks for the tip clapham, that's a good point actually. We can always use the second hand silver cross that Mum and Dad have bought in the meantime, but I would quite like to have the buggy straight away really. I think we'd better look into this some more smile

Haylebop12 Sun 16-Jun-13 22:49:56

clapham I also need to wash covers, mine is dead easy mind. I'm worried about washing the hood though as I don't want to break the plastic bits inside...

CocktailSausage Mon 17-Jun-13 00:34:37

Where did you get a belt from roofio? I can't seem to find one to fit blush. I also have a pair of jojo jeans and they are rather big in my current size but I bought them knowing I will gain weight and I may not be able to fit in to even my maternity clothing as pregnancy progresses (like last pregnancy)

LittlePeaPod Mon 17-Jun-13 05:20:49

Hi ladies. Great to see you are all doing well. Not sure you will remember me but I was on the Oct thread but mc in Feb. as some of you will be aware I am now lucky enough to be on the January 2014 thread.

Just came on for a little bit of advice. We are heading into our second trimester and some of us need to start thinking about maternity wear. Can you ladies recommend anywhere? Thank you.. smile

Didn't sleep and throat much worse today, painful to drink/swallow. Taking the day off work as usually I would just dose up on paracetamol and gargle hydrogen peroxide mouthwash but both those are not a good idea now I am pregnant. Will try to get a drs appointment today as have to be in school for important tests the next 3 days. I am not sure if school have got my messages as no reply. Hopefully someone will arrange to cover my class... I find it stressful, not used to being off!

cuillereasoupe Mon 17-Jun-13 08:18:05

I'm scanning tomorrow, so I think our spreadsheet will then be complete!

LPP, people are getting maternity clothes from all over, from hand-me-downs and ebay to high street shops. THere seems to be an agreement that there's a gap in the market for quality, affordable stuff though! I was lucky, I went with a jumble sale yesterday with a friend of mine (I love a good jumble sale) and came away with a bag full of summer maternity wear at a euro a piece. Not to mention a pair of never-been-worn Dries van Noten heels that are filling me with joy grin

notsoold Mon 17-Jun-13 09:02:05

Hi there!!! I missed the last two threads but here I am 21 weeks and expecting a boy!!! Ds is very happy and so are we....
Right... Off to read the older posts and to the statistics...
Have a great Monday!!

HotSoupDumpling Mon 17-Jun-13 09:22:18

Congrats notsoold!

LLP - firstly, huge congratulations and glad you got onto another bus. As cuille said, there hasn't been unanimous agreement about great places to buy things. I wear a mix of stretchy non-maternity stuff, a couple of maternity dresses, and some basics such as maternity tops (gap) and jeans (topshop). My biggest regret was that I bought a belly bump band from topshop far too late, and would have used it loads if I'd bought it earlier.

orangeblossom - hope you feel better. According to my doctor, paracetamol is fine. (Don't know about the mouthwash)

Wickedgirl Mon 17-Jun-13 09:36:18

i got loads of maternity clothes from New Look (on line) and it had been very comfy so far and washes well.

i also have a couple of cheap maxi dresses from primark that will be fine over summer.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 17-Jun-13 09:45:31

Just thought I'd pop in and say hello before walking the dog...

Smitten - I thought you were going to wait for the bugaboo buffalo? I was rather selfishly hoping you'd get one first so that you could report back on whether it was any good off-road! Was the wait just too long? I can't decide what to do on the pushchair front. Lots of people nearby seem to have one of the mountain buggies but I'm just don't know how important having a parent-facing option is to me.

I'd be really interested to know what pushchair other dog-owners on the thread are going for?

Good luck for tomorrow Soupe - I hope it is a lovely experience with a friendly sonographer and co-operative baby. Congratulations on the little boy notsoold.

No crusty nipples here but lots of other delightful bits and bobs happening. Yesterday's joy was terrible wind! Poor DD didn't even want me come into her room to say goodnight (DP was on bedtime stories duty) in case I stank her room out blush

LittlePea - no maternity clothes advice from me I'm afraid - I'm just making do with a few items from Next. Glad to hear you are on the Jan thread and all is going well. I hope you are not feeling too anxious. This is my fourth pregnancy after DD, a miscarriage and a chemical pregnancy, and it's been hard not to worry.

Flyer i really like Abel & Cole as a company. There is a scheme at DD's school whereby, if you order and collect your fruit/veg box through the school, the school gets to keep a proportion of the money. I help out at the school's Eco Club every week and over the years it has raised a fair bit of money for our gardening equipment etc.

Well, after that epic post, time to tackle a walk. Hope everyone has a good Monday..

Umlauf Mon 17-Jun-13 09:57:21

Hello everyone! Have you all had good weekends? My sister and Dd came to visit bringing maternity goodies from the UK! So, swimwear aside, my summer maternity wardrobe is now complete! Jeans wise, I LOVE my zara maternity jeans, they are really comfortable and flattering and fashionable.

Spain doesn't seem to do maternity and I wonder where all the pregnant ladies go! I found one specialist maternity shop in town, it was all cheap t shirts with awkward logos on like "I love mummy" etc, costing just shy of £100 each!!!

Lovely to hear from you littlepea and so glad you're travelling smoothly on the January bus! Have you tried asos for maternity wear?

Its my last week at work and I'm feeling sad! I changed career completely in September going from crappy office work to teaching english and I love my job so much!! Feeling gutted!!

Slippysnow Mon 17-Jun-13 09:59:57

bridget i have a dog and will be buying the baby jogger city mini gt, as it is good for off road it also folds compact so great for our small car.

littlepea lovely to see you back again. I'm trying not to buy too many maternity clothes as I feel like it will be a waste, but my formerly pregnant friend said she wore maternity clothes for a while after pregnancy so it is probably a good investment. My budget permits: Asos new look and next at a push. I'm trying to find long non maternity tops that can be worn after pregnancy without making me look to frumpy. Leggings are good too.

Morning not checked in for a few days.

Nice to see you again LPP I have not bought much mat wear I have a dress and leggings that I wear most of the time. Really need to buy more leggings they are a God send smile

25+1 now times flying in but I really can't wait to meet her im so impatient grin

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:13:20

morning all. just back from my 24 wk mw appointment. all good with me and baby. Heard heartbeat briefly, but have one very active baby so was squirming all over the place!! mw was very pleased with that though!! bump measuring 25cm, no idea what that means really, but mw said it was good!!

we're going to put off buggy buying for now as we aren't getting a car until august when dps shares come in so won't know what we're working with there yet!! but I do want a parent facing option as I feel its important for baby to have as much interaction as possible!! but that's just me!!

I'm another that loves new look maternity, but it is pretty casual and young. I live in jersey dresses and leggings anyway so its perfect for me!!

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 10:15:24

umlauf I don't think Southern Europe does maternity or newborns... which is ironic when you consider how amazing they are with children otherwise. When I lived in Italy, pregnant women were nowhere to be seen and neither were small babies. I really think they tend to stay in. My Italian friends say it's not really "normal" to go out a lot with newborns. I remember when we went to visit my in laws when DS was 2 months old - how much attention he got and how surprised people were when we walked with him around Florence. Florence - this very dangerous and highly contagious place? And, apart from one single department store in the main square, there was nowhere, absolutely nowhere with baby changing facilities... is Spain better in this department? And then there is this "recommended weight gain" obsession - you are not supposed to put more than 9kg... my friend was put on diet when she crossed the 10kg mark. I put on 19kg by the time I gave birth so they would probably put me on starvation diet! I was happy to have DS in the UK and he went everywhere with us, including a smart restaurant when he was only 3 weeks old and we wanted to celebrate. He slept happily through most of it in his car seat as I fed him a lot before we went in. Unthinkable in Italy. Saying this, they are absolutely amazing with him now that he is almost 5. I still don't understand why these countries are like this...

congrats on another boy "notsoold'!

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:18:20

just looked it up out of interest if anyone else is interested; according to the tommy's website your fundal height measurement (bump measurement) should be within 3cm of the number of weeks you are. so at 24 weeks it should measure between 21 and 27cm. so 25cm sounds about right!!smile

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 10:22:48

cross-post - good news roofio! From this point in your pregnancy, the cm measurement of your bump should correspond with the number of pregnancy weeks (or thereabouts). Ie. 24 weeks pregnant - about 24cm bump, 25 weeks pregnant - about 25cm bump. I completely forgot about it actually - you reminded me!

and yes, slippy - most people wear pregnancy clothes for a while after giving birth as your tummy doesn't disappear overnight. I'm ashamed to say I wore mine for about 6 months... blush... mainly because they were so comfy... blush...

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 10:23:29

another cross-post roofio - you found it yourslef! :-)

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:25:47

Hehe, thanks clampham!! grin

Umlauf Mon 17-Jun-13 10:45:36

Blimey clapham no thankfully its not quite like in Italy then. They do like to parade their newborns here (which is useful for me as I'm staring at all the new mummies' flat tummies and hoping ill look that good with that small a baby!) but they are very unhelpful in pregnancy. They have the weight gain obsession too (I've had a horrible time over that!) so perhaps they don't need maternity wear due to being so slim?!! I've seen a few heavily pregnant ladies but the rest of them is so tiny!

Its a great country for babies so I'm looking forward to having him here and being able to meet DHs workmates at the pub with baby there and no-one caring at all.

Stupid question alert, but where do you measure the bump from? And how?!

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 10:51:40

umlauf, the midwife measured mine, but I think its from the top of ur bump where the top of ur uterus is to your pubic bone (when she was trying to find mine I swear she nearly felt far too low done!! wink) not sure how easy it is to do it yourself!!

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 11:21:43

Bridget I was going to get the Buffalo, but once I started thinking about how I would use they buggy it seemed a bit silly to get something so rugged when I'll probably only end up using it on pavements and in shops.

I made the woman in the shop do a full demo on the Cameleon and the Sola and for my needs the Cameleon seemed excessively bulky and a faff to fold down, having to take the seat off and collapse it all down in carrycot mode, etc.

I think if I lived in a city and walked a lot I would have hung on for the Bugaboo, but for what I will use it for the Sola seemed to be really good and the price was excellent.

I was sick of obsessing over buggies, so I'm kind of glad to put an end to my madness!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 17-Jun-13 12:43:04

Smitten - your reasoning makes perfect sense and I know what you mean about the obsessing over buggy madness - I wish I could reach a decision.

It probably sounds rather ridiculous when there are so many makes and models out there, but there doesn't seem to be one that quite matches what I'm after.

The bugaboo buffalo seems a huge amount of money for something that will inevitably end up covered in mud and no doubt pushed through cow pats, rabbit droppings and other yucky stuff on numerous occasions!

roxvox Mon 17-Jun-13 12:44:36

I am just sat here at my desk trying to measure my bump using a 15cm plastic ruler... I don't think I am getting a very accurate result! MW did feel my tummy the other day and was happy with the position of the top of my uterus, so I am guessing she didn't feel the need to measure. I find it odd that in all of my MW visits I haven't once been weighed or measured. I am just hopeful that they are happy with how I appear to be coming along and so don't measure anything.

LittlePeaPod firstly congrats on your pregnancy! That's fantastic news. As for maternity wear... If anyone on your bus is struggling with finding trousers for tall ladies then I would recommend New Look. I bought a couple of 36" leg jeans online from them for a reasonable price, and they are good quality and seem to wash well. I did also buy some 'tall' maternity jeans from Next, but they are uncomfortably short for everyday wear (I can get away with them if I wear flip flops though). I have bought a couple of maternity tops from H&M, but generally I find I am wearing normal (but with a decent length in the body) tops (also from H&M, or Primark, or New Look etc).

Back from the doctors. I have laryngitis probably caused by too much talking at school/acid reflux and a virus. Also have an inflamed gum. Luckily I don't have to take antibiotics as I am hoping to not take anything at all while pregnant. Gp prescribed rest and no talking. Paracteamol of i want it but as that just takes away painand doesnt cure it I would rather not. Not too bad at all, I was worried it was a return of the strep bacterial infections and tonsillitis that I had constantly for years.

Glad to hear things are still going well for you Peapod.

Slippysnow Mon 17-Jun-13 13:51:23

Forgot to say earlier. Tommy tippee electric breast pump 1/3 off in tesco. Got mine for £66 smile

roxvox The rules seem to have changed in the 5 years since I was last pregnant. I haven't been weighed apart from at booking in either. In previous pregnancies I had blood taken each time too but not this time.

Flyer747 Mon 17-Jun-13 14:24:17

Sorry to hear you are under the weather orange, I hope you make a speedy recovery asap.

My back is absolutely killing me at the moment, I just can't get comfy at all, it's been this way on and off through my pregnancy but it's getting worse. I have private company health care and called them, they are sending me the forms for my doctor to full in and hoping to get a physio appointment within the next 5 days.

Little pea pod glad to hear your pregnancy is going well and I bet you are excited about the second trimester.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 17-Jun-13 14:24:35

Glad it's not too serious OrangeBlossom and I hope you are feeling much better soon. It is really tough deciding which medicines, if any, to take whilst pregnant.

I had really bad headaches earlier on and did end up taking the odd paracetamol. The Dr did prescribe codeine too, but I ended up not needing them. I have also avoided taking anything for my hayfever but have had to resort to using steroid cream for my eczema. Pregnancy has made my skin much drier than normal and triggered a very nasty flare-up on my hands. I tried to control it with the usual emollient creams but it just wasn't improving and I didn't want to run the risk of it becoming infected.

I just find it really hard to weigh up the potential risks to the baby against my own health and well-being. No point in being a martyr and suffering needlessly but don't want to feel guilty and worried either.

Orange - are you learning to drive at the moment? If so, how's it going? I'm learning too <whispers very quietly... I have been for over 2 years and my instructor informed me today that I've filled up all the record sheets they allocate per pupil! blush >

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Mon 17-Jun-13 14:28:44

Sorry to hear about your back Flyer and fingers crossed for a quick appointment.

Just wondering whether anyone else is due to have a test for Gestational Diabetes at 27 weeks due to being over 35? Anyone have any idea how common it is for it to be positive?

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 15:01:33

hope you feel better soon orange and flyer!

orange I guess he's signed you off for a few days?
flyer are you getting any pregnancy massages? They make a big difference

bridget I'm also over 35 (actually 38 next month.... no!!!!!! I'm in denial...!!) no word about any testing for gestational diabetes. Was your BMI over or under 25 at booking? I thought it depended on BMI more than age...

MrsO27 Mon 17-Jun-13 15:05:06

slippy do you know if that pump is a good one? The review section on mumsnet gives it some poor reviews, but it does seem good value for money and gets some better reviews on other sites.

roxvox Mon 17-Jun-13 15:05:17

Thanks MoN, glad it's not just me who isn't getting measured! And I guess I thought I would be having more blood taken too.

Flyer my back seems to be progressively getting worse too. It feels as though my spine is trying to bend inwards, but when I try to correct it (i.e. stand/lie/sit straight) then it hurts my stomach. It doesn't sound as though it is as bad as yours though. I hope you get some physio help soon.

cuillereasoupe Mon 17-Jun-13 15:05:26

Could be worse clapham, I'll be 39 by the time the baby is born shock

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 15:11:54

haha you win cuille! But how did it happen to us...? I have no idea... I still feel about 25 (or more like 15 some days...) It's totally sneaked up on me!

Thanks all. Clapham she said to rest my voice completely if possible but didn't actually mention not going to work and I will be administering the year 1 phonics test over the next few days which I don't want to miss so have said I will be in. Shouldn't involve too much talking and only teaching the whole class in the afternoons when not testing. It feels worse at night so I should cope. I went to boots to get advice on lozenges. Lockets are ok as basically just sugar. The rest all say ask pharmacist, she suggested the honey strepsils are ok but to only take if really needed which is what I will do.

Bridget yes I learnt to drive and got a manual licence 7 years ago but then only drove an automatic since then which is about to break down any moment and isn't suitable for a car seat. I had 10 hours of refresher lessons paid for by insurance after a car accident which I took in a manual car. Lessons went really well but first drive in DHs car didn't. I stalled three times, panicked and cried when the man behind kept beeping his horn at me and haven't tried again since... I really need to and will be forced to once mine conks out for good. Good luck with yours! Are you able to practise outside of the lessons? I needed loads too because I didn't have anyone else to take me. I think I did about 20 2 hour lessons which seems a lot. I passed first time though.

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 15:35:22

Bridget I'm having a glucose test too, but not because of age (i'm 31) but because I have (had?) PCOS which increases the risk apparently.

I had one at 12 ish weeks too and it was fine.

My baby is really active today because I am just lying in bed I am not rocking it to sleep. It is lovely to feel it pottering around in there. I wonder how long until it reaches my ribs and I don't like it so much!

Slippysnow Mon 17-Jun-13 15:55:46

mrs0 I saw it had mixed reviews but took a gamble on it. I put it together the other night and the suction seems scarily strong. Easy to assemble unlike some reviews stated, it looks like my friends madela swing. This is my first baby so can't give a real review until baby is born, but for the price it seemed like a good deal, if it doesn't work I'll be writing for my money back.

Bridget I'm having a GTT next Thursday as I'm mixed race- a bit weird though, they didn't mention it at my booking then put me in for it during my 16wk app with a different midwife. Seems to be different rules depending on who you see! Not looking forward to it though, too long to be going without food!! I'm feeling ok though, will go and google symptoms in a bit...

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 16:24:58

I'm supposed to have a GTT, but not sure whether to bother, surely they can tell if you have Gestational Diabetes from a urine test?

I can't be bothered to sit in a hospital for hours waiting about.

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 17:08:09

did they tell you why you should have it smitten?

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 17:17:52

She said that it was because by the time I get to 29 weeks my BMI would be over 30. It wasn't at booking in though - sigh.

I have a second booking appt Wednesday at the new hospital, so I'll ask if it's really necessary then.

I'm fed up of tests that make me worry for no reason.

I have the GTT at 28 weeks but for BMI of 30 - no idea how common Gestational Diabetes is though to be honest. Smitten they can't tell from urine test, as glucose needs to be tested at fasting, and then later to see how your body processes the sugar. To be honest I wasn't going to bother, but have student midwife and didn't want to upset her smile.

Re breast pumps, haven't tried the Tommee Tippee, but didt try a couple, and the Medela is excellent - I would say for any ladies planning to express as main part of feeding, or when going back to work etc to invest in one, as they are SOO much quicker and more efficient than others I tried.

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 17:28:25

I don't think I'm going to bother.

DH's mum's best friend said her daughter had gestational diabetes (she had twins last month). She didn't have the GTT as she was under the weight/age limit for it.

It's just random whether you get it or not, I'm sick of being risk assessed because 'computer says no'.

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 17:44:43

"She said that it was because by the time I get to 29 weeks my BMI would be over 30. It wasn't at booking in though - sigh."

That's shocking! All assessments are meant to be made from your bmi at booking I believe. I'd tell them where to stick it at your next appointment x

Natalieand Mon 17-Jun-13 17:51:18

Evening all, just caught up on my phone on way back from Devon had a nice 4 day break away despite the weather not being the best :-/ so excuse me if I miss someone or something

Congrats on the pregnancy littlepea I have brought maternity clothes from simply be as I am plus size I am about a size 24 but new look size 18 maternity tops fit me so have brought some of them too. Xx

bridget I had a GTT with dd at 28 weeks and this time I had one about 2 weeks after booking in as my blood sugar was high but the GTT came back clear and I will be having a other one at 27 weeks but they come to my house to do it. I think I have to have mine as I am significantly overweight.

Congrats to those who have scanned while I was away and on the boys!

Always best to take fundal measurements with a pinch of salt as a friend measured 5 weeks less than she should be and her baby weighed 8.9lbs. And I always measured 10 weeks ahead and dd weighed 8.8lbs lol

Dh felt the baby kick yesterday which was nice for Father's Day :-)

Think I've covered everything?lol

Natalieand Mon 17-Jun-13 17:52:33

Oh and also I have only been weighed once and that was when I went to see the consultant but as I worked in ante natal clinic when I used to work at the hospital I know that is standard there regardless of what u are seeing the consultant for x

Haylebop12 Mon 17-Jun-13 17:55:24

My bmi was 30 at booking in, nowt mentioned about GTT to me. I have my 25 mw appt a week on Friday so maybe something will be mentioned then?

slippy so far I've bought the TT manual pump as i have the bottles (really good deal) and hope to express 1-3 feeds a day eventually (probably the night ones so dh can help when he's off, but also daytime ones so my mum "gets a go"). Wanted to invest in the electric one but the price was a put off. My brother also
Works for tesco so that's another 10% off... Ill have a look when the offers on till as baby money has been spent for this month smile

Can they do anything about gestational diabetes if you get it anyway?

Haylebop12 Mon 17-Jun-13 18:28:25

Pump offers on until 1st July and I'm sure dh has £10 in club card vouchers :-)

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 18:32:00

I think I'm going to wait till baby is here before investing in breast pump. I'm worried that I'll fork out for one now and struggle with bf and have wasted the money. I won't be expressing straight away so think I'll wait and see how I get on first!

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 18:46:26

Orange - I think they just ask you to cut out sugar or carbs from your diet to keep your insulin/glucose levels stable.

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 18:50:32

roofio they do say wait until bf is established before expressing anyway.... I have with all of mine form about 6 weeks onwards, always used an avent hand pump no probs..... but need to get a new one this time as the rubber seals have all perished and it's gone a bit yellow!

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 18:51:24

not that i can complain....... it's nearly 17 years old, and done 5 dc of mine, and my sil used it with my nephew too! grin

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 19:00:50

Ah bugger! Carpal Tunnel has just reared its painful head sad
I hope this isn't the slide into numerous pregnancy related conditions that I had last time...

Soupqueen Mon 17-Jun-13 19:04:27

I'll be 37 in a few short days when this baby is born but haven't had a GTT mentioned. I was weighed and bloods taken at booking in and will have blood taken again at next midwife appointment at 28 weeks. They have measured the bump at each appointment.

A friend has passed on her breast pump. It's a dual electric Ameda or something? It looked frankly terrifying so went straight back in the box for now!

I have finally bought something baby related! Ok, so it's only a pack of nappies, but it's a start. I hope to use cloth nappies, but not for the first few weeks, so need to get some disposables in.

For fellow heartburn sufferers, I was googling natural remedies (the thought of gaviscon makes me nauseous) and apparently coconut water is good - got to be worth a try!

Sanjifair Mon 17-Jun-13 19:19:10

Cuille, I'll be 39 when baby is born too. Are we the oldest on the thread?

I had the GTT last time and am having it again this time. Think it is standard at my hospital. I like drinking lucozade so not a problem!

Re maternity wear, I have only really bought maternity trousers, otherwise I buy normal tops in a 'floaty' style, e.g. Fitted round boobs then flare out. Fat face and white stuff both have tops like that.

Flyer747 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:44:20

Just won a John Lewis white swinging crib on eBay £43 quite pleased with that!

Had a massage claphammama at about 13 weeks, DP and I are going on a spa break this weekend I intend to have a massage courtesy of him....oh and a pedicure, facial and anything else that takes my fancy :-)

JethroTull Mon 17-Jun-13 20:08:45

I'm think

peusdo sympathy for the carpal tunnel, I had it really bad with Ds, but have got away with it so far. Was recommended wrist splints, which didn't really help me but might be worth a go.

JethroTull Mon 17-Jun-13 20:15:39

I'm thinking of expressing & didn't know where to start. Brilliant to read other people's advice / comments on here.

I've finally started to organise my mat leave today. I was sticking my head in the sand a bit but have given my boss a date - 12th Sept. EDD is either 29th Sept or 7th Oct depending which consultant I talk to so I figured that gave me plenty of time to sort some stuff out as I don't think I'll have much time before.

Soup I'll be 37 by the time the baby's here. Well, possibly. My birthday is 6th Oct - maybe it will come when I'm still 36 grin

Oh dear pseudo sorry to hear that sad

The head teacher covered my class herself for a few lessons today now I have a list of things they did wrong to deal with! Why did I take the day off?!

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 20:20:54

Thanks Bowl, I have splints but can only find my right hand one and of course it's kicked off on the left....

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 20:22:19

Thanks Orange, it's my day for a bit of a moan I think as I have bad round ligament pain and I can feel my PGP starting off too grrrrr!
Sorry about your head teacher sad

GTbaby Mon 17-Jun-13 20:52:04

In terms of pumping. I used a TT manual and medela electric. Both good.
However pumping is hard work. My pumping 3 times I would just about get enough for 1 feed.
Def advise to BF mainly and offer expressed milk maybe once a day. Only because its such hard work.

When lo refused to latch on I thought I'd be able to express enough for most his feed confused but it doesn't quite work like that sad

If you can get a manual pump on offer during a baby event I'd say buy it and give it a go before investing in an electric one?

claphammama Mon 17-Jun-13 20:55:20

sorry to hear this pseudo... moan as much as you need! what can you do to make it better?

orange your work environment sounds really toxic. Get out of there as soon as you can.

flyer your weekend sounds amazing! Have everything you can think of! Are you going anywhere nice? I had a massage at work today but the therapist wasn't very good... the one I really like is not pregnancy certified so refuses to touch me. You just reminded me - also meant to book a facial and hair for next weekend to treat myself when DP abandons me for a stag do. First jobs for tomorrow!

Saying this - I have a two days offsite at work tomorrow and Wednesday... really dreading it. I'm sure there will be some dreadful team building exercise or skill building workshop included. Or, knowing my team and management, probably both. Adding some boring evening entertainment on top of it. Alcohol usually gets me through this type of events...

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 21:18:41

Ah clapham well if someone else could walk my dogs for me that would be fab! DP is in a competitive patheticness stage right now so he's no good grin

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 21:32:03

GTbaby I never had much trouble expressing - could get a 9oz bottle in 5 mins grin so it must vary person to person. It's much easier if you can do it off one side while the baby is on the other (though of course both boobs need to be full!) as I think that helps with the let down.

maybe best to do it first thing in the morning (so keep pump ready!)

Freezes well - I used bags (and ended up with a whole shelf full in my freezer! shock)

You can also sometimes donate to your local SCBU if you have too much. I did this with ds2, but they wouldn't take it frozen, so couldn't run up there very often.

roofio87 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:34:19

thanks gt, yeah I was thinking of seeing how I got on with a manual and then seeing what happens!!
one of my very best friends is getting married next year and her sister has just sent me a message about her hen do. its the beginning of march next year, lo will be approx 5 months old. I don't think I'm going to be able to go, I'm hoping to exclusively bf for first 6 months so feeding wouldn't work if I'm away for a weekend. I also don't know for sure that I'll be wanting to leave the baby that early for a whole weekend. am I being unreasonable? I'm worried she and the other girls will think I'm being a precious first time mum. id normally do anything for this friend and feel awful not to be going sad

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 21:37:38

don't think YABU at all roofio - if she is that good a friend surely she would understand?!

could you go just for the evening or will it be a long way away?

Smitten1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:41:43

Sorry if I'm being a bit thick here, but can you breast feed and formula feed? I kind of want DH to be able to feed the baby too.

PseudoBadger Mon 17-Jun-13 21:42:50

You can but your milk supply may suffer. Many people express for that reason.

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 21:44:39

i tied it with ds1 when I had to go back to school and he started needing 2 bottles while i was gone sad

but it upset his tummy - badly, so we ended up FF when he was about 13 weeks.

However, this is 16 years ago, and I think formula now is probably more palatable!

cazboldy Mon 17-Jun-13 21:45:01

tried it

JethroTull Mon 17-Jun-13 22:02:17

That's good to know Caz, about trying it first thing. What pump did you use? My husband wants to do some feeds so I think expressing will let him have more opportunities.

Don't think YBU at all Roofio. 5 months is still very tiny baby territory, if you don't think you'll enjoy it then don't go.

Haylebop12 Mon 17-Jun-13 22:09:58

roofio yanbu, everyone is different. Dd was ff and I had a night out when she was 12 weeks. I too have a Jen weekend coming up in march and as of now I'm going... But in driving so if I want to come back I can.

We also have a wedding between Xmas and new year. (Another reason i want to express) Though the children are invited I wanted a child free day but unsure how ill feel about leaving baby... Might just take him and leave dd <bad mummy>

Haylebop12 Mon 17-Jun-13 22:11:44

I wouldn't have left dd for a wknd at that age, and I didn't until she was 2yo.

Flyer747 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:00:15

Claphammama I'm off to a place called ribby hall spa hotel in the north west...They do elemis and dermalogica facials, I love dermalogica as I use their skin care but elemis always smells lush....go and pamper yourself this weekend whilst your oh is away.

Sorry to hear of those unwell folks on here too. I hope you feel better soon.

Flyer747 Mon 17-Jun-13 23:03:28

I'm invited to a hen do in April it's gonna be in Madrid from what I'm hearing, although nothing booked/confirmed yet and it's a good friend plus I want to go as I've just missed one this month...I feel really selfish after hearing you ladies won't be leaving your babies.

I went on a hen do 2 hrs away (newquay) when DD2 was only 5 weeks old, I'd expressed lots (blessed with great supply) and checked she would take formula in an emergency, I was uncomfortable and had to express a few times, was probably only gone 24hrs in all but it felt like more! Wouldn't have done it with DD1 but 2nd time round was a lot more confident, I went on to bf till she was 20 months so definitely didn't ruin it grin

Natalieand Tue 18-Jun-13 07:30:23

Dd1 was born in November and I went to a show in London in the march. It was a 2day/1night thing and dh looked after her and although I did miss her very much I still had a good time. This time around dh and I are hoping to have a mini break in August/sept time and leave dd and baby with my mum something which I would never have done first time round but i think I'll book it before he's born so I can't change my mind lol xx

JellyCurls Tue 18-Jun-13 08:16:29

Morning ladies, not posted on this thread yet but have been following.

According to phone app baby is now measuring approx 30cm and fundal height should be 2.5" above belly button. Checked mine last night and feels like mine is only just at belly button, will see if I can measure tonight with a tape measure. Wonder if mine is lower as I am tall roxvox fellow tall person can you feel your above belly button yet when you lie down?

Hope everyone else is keeping well

JellyCurls Tue 18-Jun-13 08:18:54

Oh and looking for swimwear for holiday in July. Is there a reason we should cover our bellies in sun as I can't get a swimming costume long enough in body and tankini offer no boob support what so ever. Now measuring a 34G so do need quite a bit of support so was thinking normal bikini with bump band to cover, would this do?

Haylebop12 Tue 18-Jun-13 08:56:31

flyer don't feel like that, ill probably stay all weekend at the hen do in match and drink so much I won't remember my name smile I could have left dd but didn't have anything that meant I did.

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:03:06

Had a massive row with DP last night ended up in tears etc, shortly after I had 2 excruciating pains low down on my right hand s

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:07:00

Sorry posted early....

Had 2 excruciating pains low down on my right side, and have not felt the baby move since. I have been feeling it quite constant now, especially after breakfast. Anyway went to work hoping it would move but started to worry, called the midwife who wants to see my straight away. Walked into work and burst out crying on my boss (the shame) so now on the train home to go and see the midwife...fingers crossed, I can't stop crying wtf are these hormones doing to me.

Smitten1981 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:08:45

Jelly I got a tankini with support from M&S in the sale last week. I ordered in a size bigger and it's fine, and my boobs need a lot of hoiking at the moment.


cazboldy Tue 18-Jun-13 10:14:29

sorry you are so worried flyer sad sure everything is fine xxx

Umlauf Tue 18-Jun-13 10:15:30

Jelly I'm a big size too and need underwires for shape. I've ordered some bravissimo bikini tops in bigger sizes (trying 32g/34g/32gg/34gg- i was 30ff pre-preg!) and some cheap asos cotton strappy maternity tops to wear over.

Tbh the pregnant ladies here in Spain don't cover their bumps they all just wear bikinis so as long as you are sensible with sun cream I don't see why you'd need to cover it.

flyer sorry to hear about the pains, sounds really scary for you. I'm glad you're seeing the midwife. Don't worry about your boss, maybe she'll stop being so mean, and cry away and release those endorphins! I'm sure your baby is fine and just changed position awkwardly and is snoozing, but I'm thinking of you. flowers xxx

HotSoupDumpling Tue 18-Jun-13 10:23:49

Flyer good luck. Don't worry about crying, I've cried plenty of times in front of colleagues/bosses (and not when I was pregnant either!).

If anyone's on the lookout for dressing gowns for hospital or late night feeds in October, M&S ones are on sale at the moment.

I wouldn't mind wearing a bikini but I do feel a bit self-conscious about my linea negra and the increasing hairiness... so might stick to my black swimsuit.

PenelopeLane Tue 18-Jun-13 10:27:45

I expressed with ds from 2 weeks which was fine for us, and made sure I did it at least once a week from then, which gave me a sleep in a week! I was lucky with supply though and have an electric pump. Ds took to it fine. The pumps are pricey though, was lucky to have been given one

roofio87 Tue 18-Jun-13 10:46:09

thanks for ur support ladies. I might be totally up for leaving lo in march, I think its just the fear of the unknown getting to me. I explained all to my friends sister and she sent me a lovely message back saying that we can arrange some way of me being there nearer the time, I can even bring him if I want! its in sheffield and dp even offered to go over and stay at my friends for the night one night and chill with my friends husbands while I go hen do with my mate and then I can get back to lo quickly! so sweet.

flyer hope you're feeling ok and baby is just hiding. let us know how u get on xx

I've been feeling very emotional and down the last few days but for no real reason!! lovely hormones!

Smitten1981 Tue 18-Jun-13 11:19:01

Good luck at the midwives Flyer. It's worrying when you don't feel movement.

textbook Tue 18-Jun-13 11:26:50

Hope everything is OK flyer - I'm sure baby is just hiding and keeping my fingers crossed for you. I'm in Greece atm and baby has been very quiet for the last 24hrs so was starting to feel a bit anxious, but just had some good big kicks in response to tapping on my bump. It's easy to get really worried when patterns change, and you are absolutely right to get it checked out.

Hope everyone else is doing well - I've not been able to check the thread much as I'm away from wifi most of the time. I'm having a lovely holiday and eating my bodyweight in Greek salad smile I'm off to have a good catch up of all your news...

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 18-Jun-13 11:36:07

Flyer - I really hope you are doing ok and getting the reassurance you need from your midwife. It's a scary business having a little life on board and so difficult to know when to worry or not.

Don't worry about the tears at work - totally understandable and as Umlauf said it might make your boss question her recent behaviour.

Hopefully relations with DP will be back on track soon too - I bet he is feeling horrid about last night's row too.

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 11:40:48

oh no flyer... hope you are OK... don't worry about tears - it happens. and you won't see this manager and these people again once you go on maternity leave xxxwine wine

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 11:45:59

Hi jellycurls - I tried to measure my fundal height last night too, but I couldn't seem to feel anything above my bellybutton that I could suggest was the top of my uterus... The midwife had a feel of my stomach the other day though and said that my uterus was 'good' and 'in the expected place', so I am not worrying and just assuming that it is just that I am unable to feel it myself. Could this be the same case for you?

A few weeks ago I was on a lovely evening out with DH, and after eating I got some excruciating pains in my stomach (I could barely walk with it). I didn't feel baby for any of the next day, and it took a couple of days to get back to normal in terms of the number of kicks I was getting back then. I hope this is the same for you flyer. It seems very strange that our body's react in this way, but I wondered if because of the bad pains I was getting baby moved away and hid for a little while. I have my fingers crossed that everything is ok for you though.

As for bikini/tankinis - I wondered the same thing jelly as all 'maternity' swimwear covers the bump. I think it's just because you could wear a standard bikini, but you couldn't fit into a standard tankini so they have to produce those seperately. I would say though that I didn't find the tankini at all supportive, so I went for a bikini (which was a bit small tbh) and then when I got quite hot I decided to cover up my bump. Glad I did because I burnt everywhere else, and my stomach was itching from stretching anyway so sunburn would've only made it more itchy!

PseudoBadger Tue 18-Jun-13 11:59:53

Thinking of you Flyer x

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 12:00:39

Hi ladies, thanks for your kind messages, just back from the midwife and all was ok, a little heartbeat chugging away like a train....she was so sweet and measured my bump (measuring 24 weeks) and did the usual bp and urine test. I said I felt silly for panicking but she assured me that she would rather me come in than sit and worry. She said probably ligament pains.

DP came with me, he is still a twat though, pardon the language!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 18-Jun-13 12:23:15

Roofio - your friends and DP sound really lovely and understanding. I left DD with DP for 2 full days/1 night when she was about 12 weeks old to go to a friend's 30th birthday 'do' back in Manchester.

It was really strange being away from her but the sense of freedom was absolutely intoxicating. To be honest, the best bits were the train journeys there and back. For the first time since she was born, I had a few hours of uninterrupted peaceful solitude with just my own thoughts and a good book. I deliberately stayed sober and left the party early-ish so I could get my first full night's sleep in three months too!

I do remember feeling very odd though, being 'out there' amongst friends and strangers just as me not as DD's mother - I can't really explain it very well but I felt like I needed a sign around my neck saying "I know I look like a complete person but this isn't really all of me - the rest of me is miles away."

Slippy - I like your pushchair choice. I've seen a few in the playground and the seat looks very spacious and comfy.

Clapham - my BMI is on the higher side but from the paperwork I've been given it looks my age alone would have triggered the GD test in my area. Interesting the range of different approaches out there. For various reasons, the logistics of the test will be a pain in the bum, but I will do as I'm told.

Orange - yes, I definitely think one of the reasons my learning to drive is going so slowly is that I don't get any opportunity to practice in between lessons. I nearly passed back in February but failed in the dying seconds of the test as I tapped a post in the test centre car park when I was parking up. Up until that point, I only had a couple minors.

Getting used to using the clutch again won't take you that long - it's coping in traffic, spatial awareness, positioning, rules of the road etc that are so much harder and you've got all that totally sorted x

roofio87 Tue 18-Jun-13 12:26:15

flyer so glad ur little one is ok in there, I'm sure he'll be giving u some swift kicks later to make up for it. glad u have a nice understanding mw too!!x

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 18-Jun-13 12:26:52

Great news Flyer x

Glad to hear all is ok flyer - don't worry about work, like others have said maybe she will be a bit more thoughtful now, FX.

I just can't quite get my head around tracking babies movements. This one has a few quiet days, and then has a few days kicking the life out of me, and was the same with DS. Think she has changed position as I am getting squirming and she seems to be having a good root around in my groin, but no real kicks - last week was all kicks that could be seen from the outside above my belly button. I understand why we have to monitor movement, but I would be seeing the midwife every 2 or 3 days if I went with every change of pattern confused.

cazboldy Tue 18-Jun-13 12:50:57

so glad everything is ok flyer xx

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 18-Jun-13 12:59:34

I was helping in DD's class for a couple of hours this morning and, when they were lining up ready to go to assembly, one little girl asked me in a very serious voice if there was something wrong with my tummy.

I told her there was a baby growing in there and she looked so horrified I had to stop myself from laughing.

Can I pick the brains of the primary teachers on this thread? I think DD had her Year 1 phonics test yesterday (came home with a "good effort" sticker and told me about reading a book 1-2-1 with her teacher with real words and 'alien' words). Do parents normally get to know how their individual child got on? Or is it more of an assessment of the school's teaching/year group as a whole?

Bit worried as DD finds reading much harder than we expected she would. I think she is doing ok in comparison with the national average but there are a surprising number of very talented children in her class (ORT stage 10 already) and I think it gives the impression she's behind.

So relieved for you flyer I had sharp pains low down on my right side last night that panicked me a bit then I dreamt I was in labour and woke up with sore stomach muscles. I think I was just tensing them in my sleep because of the dream.
These babies are too much worry inside where we can't see them.

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:01:14

I hope you feel a little less down soon roofio, it's all these raging hormones. Does your DP know you are feeling low? X

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:02:30

Very true MoN they are a worry aren't they just! I never thought having a baby on board would fill me with such worry and anxiety.

JellyCurls Tue 18-Jun-13 14:07:11

Flyer glad your baby is ok and just being a wee monkey!

My concern over bikini wearing is mainly did to fact that I tan very easily and wonder how awful a tanned crinkly post birth belly will look against my white bits. i have a vision of the old woman out of something about mary in my head

On a more annoying note the underwire of my bra has popped today and has been having a look at my pc over the top of my top hmm how could I not have noticed that happening?

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:09:34

Haha jellycurls magda off something about Mary! My friends call me her because Iove sunbathing....I know what you mean though.

roofio87 Tue 18-Jun-13 14:31:03

yes flyer I've told dp all about it, otherwise he'd think he'd done something wrong!! have explained there is no reason behind it. I'm sure I'll pick up soon.
just had two mini apple pies and custard for lunch, it cheered me up so why not!!smile

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:08:44

Hi everyone! Haven't been on for a while as away visiting my brother but all caught up on thread now.

Good baby is ok flyer

Hope the laryngitis and carpal tunnel improve orange and pseudo

As for the GTT very variable who they test! In the states they test everybody! Main risks are bmi, family history of diabetes, measuring large for dates, previous GD and other related conditions like hypothyroidism and PCOS. AFAIK being mixed race is not a risk factor feminist. Do you have a fam history? Maybe in your area they have a high number of mr people with diabetes?? Also decision based on bmi at booking but obviously things can change during course of pregnancy.

Meant to ask on last thread clapham how was anniversary dinner? Did you get to meet Michelle Roux jr? He's yummy smile

I'm sure I've forgotten something............

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:10:51

clapham, cuilles and soup I'm also in the geriatric mums group smile

Today is my 38th birthday smile

I can't believe it

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:11:38

Michel not Michelle doh

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:14:37

Congrats on pregnancy LPP

No great maternity clothes advice here. Maxi dresses a good idea. Have top shop mat jeans but live in leggings mot of the time.

Have a bra phobia at the minute. Cannot bear wearing them at all. Not very big maybe 36 B or C have to go get measured sad

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 15:15:24

Ok will stop talking to myself now lol

cazboldy Tue 18-Jun-13 15:34:40

Happy Birthday chick

cuillereasoupe Tue 18-Jun-13 16:17:50

Do you have a fam history?

I read that as "ham factory" for a moment and thought WTF?

Anyway I can report one more boy for the list! Bang on size and weight, and everything fine. DP's granny (94) is delighted to have a boy to carry on the family name, which is about as common as Smith, but never mind wink

cuillereasoupe Tue 18-Jun-13 16:18:38

Oh and happy birthday Chickien!

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 16:19:57

Glad all is good Flyer!

I wish I could remember what my assumption of what pregnancy is like was before now. I am pretty sure that it was very different to this though!

Happy Birthday Chickieno1! Are you up to anything nice today?

Umlauf Tue 18-Jun-13 16:25:13

Happy Birthday chick hope you're having a lovely day!! Definitely go and get measured. I'm waiting on a 32g push up bra at the moment as my current massive bra makes me feel dowdy as it pushes me down and out, minimised style!

I'm feeling pretty good about myself at the moment. Its all down to the zara jeans and flowy maternity vests I reckon! As soon as my bikini is delivered and I have to try it on the self-revulsion will come flooding back. Grr pregnancy does not sit well with me!

flyer so relieved for you, and lovely to hear the heartbeat again! Absolutely better to check things over rather than worry.

Does anyone else live in rental accommodation? Are you doing anything about a nursery? How are you decorating? I'm feeling the guilt about not having a room for our son to call his own, especially as everything feels so temporary wrt how long we'll be in Spain. I keep seeing amazing ideas on Pinterest and I can't do anything for my little man :-(

Happy Birthday Chickie
Maybe just measure yourself for a bra using the method on the bra threads. It all gives me the same measurement as a Bravissimo fitting so it's pretty accurate.

Shirehobbit Tue 18-Jun-13 16:39:10

Glad you and the LO is ok, flyer

I too am a hormonal nightmare today - kept it in at work, but I am a seething mass that is dangerously close to exploding in a rage or flood of tears.
It's not fun.
I should probably hang a warning notice around my neck, so DH knows to tread on eggshells tonight...

cazboldy Tue 18-Jun-13 16:42:17

Umlauf we are not rented as such, but tied accomodation ( rent and council tax and water/sewage rates free with dh's job!)

I can't do much anyway as baby will be in with us for at least the first year, but need to change the room layout so there is room for the crib/cot and want some new curtains (i hate the old ones, but they were all i had that fitted when we moved in!)

then depending on boy/girl it will go in with it's brothers / sisters.

We have always lived in tied accomdation though, and with previous babies i painted walls and used those sticker/transfer things to brighten things up - but you can just peel them off if you have to leave!

roofio87 Tue 18-Jun-13 16:53:35

yes umlauf and caz we rent and am planning on making baby's room a bit nicer with re peeling wall stickers when he gets in there too. a nice room for lo is nice but I'm not going to get too worked up about it, he'll have the most loving home and a roof over his head so I'm sure he'll be just fine!

The wall stickers are great - some of DS's are still up after 2.5 year and moving house.

Happy birthday Chick - are you doing anything nice?

Congrats on the scan cuillerea - sounds like out little girls are going to be spoilt for choice in a few years!

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 17:04:59

I am finding it so hard to focus at work. I am counting down the minutes to 5.30 every single day it seems. It's bad!

Natalieand Tue 18-Jun-13 17:11:21

Glad everything is good with baby flyer

Sorry so many of you ladies are feeling peed off/upset etc. sounds like we're all feeling similar maybe its cos were past the highs of 20 week scans and half way marks and now its just the long countdown of the last 15-20 weeks

We rent a 2 bed property umlauf and it is unlikely we will be in a position to move anytime soon ATM dd (age 2) room is pink pink pink but I've brought some lilac and some aqua type colour paint (it sounds bad but I've seen it in a magazine it looked nice in there lol) and hoping to paint the room those colour and do one end a little boy theme and one end for dd so she still has a little space for herself .xx

Umlauf Tue 18-Jun-13 17:19:22

I don't knowif its worth my while painting as we may only be there for one year, maybe 3, and if course the baby will be with us for a few months anyway! I was considering a circus theme and I want to do the ceiling like this!!!

Soupqueen Tue 18-Jun-13 17:37:36

Happy birthday chickie, hope you're doing something lovely to celebrate.

Vey glad everything is ok, flyer.

We're renting aswell and aren't doing anything about decorating. We hope to move in about a year and the baby will be in our room anyway.

I do have to get a grip every time I look at beautiful nurseries though and remind myself that, of all the things this child will probably hate me for when it's a teenager, not having a nursery for the first year of its life will not be one of them. It will neither know nor care!

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 17:50:39

congrats on your boy cuille! Is the world going to be taken over by men...? How scary is this thought??? Haha - do you mean you don't have a ham factory...? Doesn't everyone? :-)

and happy birthday chickien! Hope you are being spoilt rotten today? Anything exciting planned? And yes!!!! I saw Michel Roux at our dinner! He came out and talked to all the tables. He asked me about my scallops and I got very excited - so not cool. As you can see - still able to act like a teenager despite my geriatric age. I also have a photo with him which will hung in my kitchen. Saddo!

Sorry you feel low today roofio and shire you are not alone - I almost bit one guy's head off yesterday.

My "4 and three quarters" DS asked me last night, very casually, if I would miss him if he died... in response to my shocked look, he then told me that actually I will die before him "but not very soon as I'm still very young"... in case it's any consolation to other geriatric mums..."not very soon"...

Natalieand Tue 18-Jun-13 18:00:12

Is anyone else's boobs leaking? Was just sitting here and my nipple itched a bit and as I touched it to itch it it was wet so I inspected further and with a little squeeze possibly milky colour but more clear fluid comes out! Already? I'm only 23+1

pinkbuttons Tue 18-Jun-13 18:04:13

Happy Birthday chick! Hope youve had a great day.

Congrats on having a boy cuille

and glad all is ok flyer hope youre feeling better now.

Another one here that will be renting when baby arrives, were moving on Saturday and not all of the redecorating the landlord said hed do has been done including in both childrens rooms. Hoping it will work in our favour and we may just decorate one wall nicely in each room, so wont be too much effort but still look nice. Not that the baby will notice, think it will be more for DS' s benefit smile

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 18:16:54

Happy Birthday Chicken.

Am I the only one who doesn't know who this Michael Roux is?! A chef I'm guessing, I'm clearly so behind on the times.

Flyer so glad all is well and that they could check you out straight away.

Congratulations on the scan cuille. Is that the last of our scans now?

Bridget, I am a year one teacher and did some of the phonics test with children today. Schools have to tell parents whether children have passed the screening check or not so you will find out, but they won't do so until all children have completed the test, which will be happening all this week. Don't stress about it, it is mainly a measure of the school and teachers and won't have an impact on your dd at all really, other than to flag up if she needs some extra support in year 2 which can only be a good thing. Her score will have no impact on her future and if she doesn't pass, she will have another chance to do the test next year. It is not a test of her reading abilities in terms of understanding books, it purely measures whether she can sound out words. It was a new test introduced by the government for all year ones last year.

Thanks for whoever said get well soon. My throat was a bit better today and managed without drugs. I had a very scary night though. At about 10 o clock I started to feel really really sick, my eyes wouldn't focus properly and the room started spinning like I was very drunk, my urine smelt funny and I kept switching between hot and shivery. I put my symptoms into the nhs symptom checker after 4 hours of feeling awful just in case and it said I might have pre-eclampsia and to get in touch with my delivery suite immediately. This sent me into a panic as I am only 22 weeks, too early to deliver, and that made my heart race, another pre-eclampsia symptom but caused purely by anxiety. So I called the 24 hour maternity triage at my hospital in a state at 2am. They said it is all probably due to my laryngitis and that the drs wouldn't do anything until morning anyway so to lay down in a dark room and try to sleep it off. I did and although I didn't get much sleep the room had stopped spinning by the morning and wasn't sick any more.

I wonder if the nausea was caused by a sore throat and I messed up my blood pressure by hanging my head over the bed into a bucket for hours.

I wasn't really fit for work today after that but had quite a chilled morning doing the phonics test with one child at a time and relied on TA to help me in the afternoon. Knackered now. Going to do a little bit more work on reports then get an early night to try to catch up on sleep.

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 18:55:05

natalieand mine aren't leaking, but one of my pregnancy apps had something on it the other morning about buying some breast pads now and keeping them to hand, just in case they leak. So I am guessing it's relatively common!

MrsO27 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:02:46

Glad baby is ok flyer and happy birthday chickie!
Natalie, your post scares me!! I'm not looking forward to leaks!

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 19:05:37

orange that sounds like a very scary night. I am glad you're feeling better today.

clapham I am so glad you got to meet Michel Roux Jr! That's brilliant that he came around to everyone's tables. I can just imagine how you must've felt when you saw him come out of the kitchen and start talking to people smile ... I met the lead singer of a band that I have loved for years last year, and I swear I just stood there open mouthed. I muttered something about being a fan and asked to have a photo taken with him and for a hug. He didn't chat to me for very long because I was incapable of 'chat' and basically made a muttering fool of myself. I still have the photo as evidence though, and had a big smile on my face for days after grin

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Tue 18-Jun-13 19:07:14

Gosh Orange last night sounds like a very scary experience - how horrible!

You deserve a medal for managing to drag yourself into work after all that! Definitely have an early night, you must be completely shattered.

Thank-you for the info on the phonics test. I really appreciate you taking the time to reassure me when you probably just want to sleep x

No problem smile

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 18-Jun-13 19:11:42

Glad baby is ok flyer. Pregnancy is amazingly stressful, its a wonder we get through it in one piece!
I am so happy, my friend has just told me she is pregnant! grin. They've been trying since before we had ds so a long time and I am thrilled to bits for her. Also it's nice to have a pregnant buddy in rl to whinge to!!!

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 19:29:22

this sounds so scary orange... and yes, gold medal for making it to work despite feeling like this! Glad you feel better now. Hopefully a more restful night will get you back to normal!

Michel Roux is a famous chef flyer. And yes roxvox - this is exactly how I behaved! Other people are into film stars, footballers and musicians and I'm into chefs! I always thought this would be my alternative career if I could live a parallel life - I absolutely love cooking. However, I actually have a friend who is a chef (although not famous or brilliant at all) and he keeps telling me it's a terrible life working all evenings and weekends, in terrible heat and making the same dishes over and over again until you are sick of seeing them. This is not what I had in mind!

Also was talking to my GP about my concerns as I was so worried my stress would harm the baby. She reassured me that they are very strong and resilient little things, and placenta protects them from stress to a great extent. So stress can't harm the baby, only me. Thought I would share it in case other people have similar worries...

Haylebop12 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:30:26

natalie no leaky boobs here... Yet. Was around 28-30 weeks with dd.

chickie happy birthday!

flyer glad baby is ok. Can't imagine how you must have felt. And you orange. These babies like to give us a fright don't they!

umlauf like natalie were also in a two bed, however dd's room is too small for baby so he will be with us until we move. We are looking at moving march next year when our tenancy is up. I'm gutted we aren't decorating like we did with dd but thinking about all the money and time I'm saving grin

Going up to mcr the weekend to dh's house he still owns but rents out as our Moses basket, cot and baby toys are in the loft.

Natalie I've leaked colostrum from the 17wk mark in all of my pregnancies.

Shirehobbit Tue 18-Jun-13 19:37:47

I'm seriously jealous of your Michel encounter, Clapham envy wink

After a small cry, big nap and nice pizza, I'm much calmer.

PseudoBadger Tue 18-Jun-13 19:50:52

It's possible I might see Michel tomorrow at work.... And a few other chefs wink

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 20:02:52

wow!! what do you do for work pseudo??? Want to swap?

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 20:03:13

ps. which other chefs?

PseudoBadger Tue 18-Jun-13 20:05:46

I'm an EHO for Westminster council, tomorrow we are doing food hygiene inspections at Taste London

PseudoBadger Tue 18-Jun-13 20:08:54

Basically any of these chefs grin
I know Alexis Gauthier quite well as I helped him with elements of his kitchen when he opened his soho restaurant.
/end name dropping

PseudoBadger Tue 18-Jun-13 20:10:47

Oops I lied its Thursday....

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 20:13:14

WOW! Enjoy and please never hurt Michel or Le Gavroche in your job :-)

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 20:57:37

Thanks for all the birthday wishes ladies smile. Was treated to a pedicure and foot massage earlier and dh is making dinner tonight! My sister is visiting and a friend is coming over too so it'll be a nice relaxing evening.

I think having a ham factory might increase chances of gestational diabetes grin

Yay for picture with michel roux! Missed him at taste of London last year but my friend got a picture and signed book and gloated about it for ages!!

Thanks umlauf and MON will start of by measuring myself for bra. Do you have to get maternity ones or can you use regular ones??

We re renting at he minute and won't be doing up baby's room. I agree once they're fed, clothed, cuddled and loved that's the most important thing! He or she ll be in with us for at least 6 months anyway (found it very difficult to move ds1 to his own room)

Congrats on boy* cuillerea*

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:02:15

Orange your night sounds horrid and scary like everyone else said good for you still going to work! You must be a real trooper.

Any ladies here due before 22nd October we should have Libra babies, and they are known for being quite easy to deal with....any born 23rd Onwards will be a Scorpio baby, and supposedly a tad more challenging!! It's only a bit of fun though, as you probably can tell I like astrology. Saddo hey :-)

That's lovely news about your friend shooting I bet she's chuffed to bits.

Normal well fitting bras are fine Chickie

I'm a Scorpio Flyer and not at all challenging. Dp might say different though. 10yr old dd is a Scorpio also and is very challenging.

JellyCurls Tue 18-Jun-13 21:09:39

My dd announced today we are having a harvest baby so should use that to plan a name. She wanted to call ds either twinkle star for a girl or porridge for a boy before he was born as she loved them both, wonder and dread to think what her harvest name will be

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:17:42

Ooh I hope I don't offend anyone with my astrology! It's actually a bit more than just your sun sign, other rising signs etc....I actually get on with scorpios v well MoN my best friend is one, I'm a pisces so like me you are a fellow water sign. I'm gonna shut up now I sound like some crazy astrology lady!

Haylebop12 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:24:22

My nan and sister are both libras and both hard work!

Smitten1981 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:30:22

Mine will be a Scorpio then, I get on we'll with Scorpios. I'm a typical Taurus.

claphammama Tue 18-Jun-13 21:31:28

perfectly harmless and good fun flyer! I'm Cancerian so also a water sign like you, honestly should have guessed :-)

My ex was a Scorpio (24th October) and was a very easy going and gentle person (although there were obviously things that made him an ex...) His parents, however, both also Scorpios and both born on 28 October (weird!) were an absolute nightmare. So I will try to avoid 28th October if I can help it! Hayley you are not 28th October right? :-)

I may have to post this photo with Michel on Facebook.... not to gloat, simply out of excitement that still doesn't fade...!!

Sanjifair Tue 18-Jun-13 21:35:18

Hi all,

I mentioned on a previous thread that my CEO had told me he was going to choose someone else over me for promotion because I was pregnant.

Well, I can now report a happy ending for my tale of woe. I am now going to get the promotion to head of department and will also be deputy section head.

Very pleased as it had been playing on my mind. Thank goodness he saw sense. But at the same time I am not over the moon as I would have been, because his previous behaviour has just really taken the shine off it. Hey ho. At least I can stop stressing about the situation now. Phew.

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 21:48:29

Claphammama another fellow water sign I did have my suspicions...we are emotional (well i speak for myself) but very loving and kind with big hearts.

DP is a Capricorn/Aquarius no wonder we rub one another up the wrong way!

Excellent news on the promotion sanji well done x

Natalieand Tue 18-Jun-13 21:57:22

No idea about star signs but they do intrigue me so if anyone wants to fill in the blanks for me then go ahead
I'm June 28th so a cancer
Dd is November 1st (no idea what her sign is)
Dh is march 1st (no idea what his sign is either)

Congrats on the promotion sanji xx

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:01:25

Natalie wow you got a full house of water signs...you are cancer, dd is a Scorpio and DH is a pisces! You couldn't get any better match/compatibility (according to astrology if you believe it, lots of people don't) then you should have harmonious relationships with them both.

Haylebop12 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:08:20

I'm due 13th clapham so possibly another libra!!

I'm a Virgo, dh is a Leo and dd is Aquarius. Ok interested in it but don't know how to work out all the compatibility stuff tbf. Baby will probably be a libra...

Wonder how that'll work out?

I never payed too much attention to astrology until I read that certain star signs were more prone to certain ailments because every body part was ruled by a different sign.
Scorpions are more prone to thrush and uti's. (I always seem to have one or the other)

roxvox Tue 18-Jun-13 22:09:10

I am not very good at star signs either... My sister loves it all, and I do find it intriguing, but have no idea how compatible DH (Sagittarius I think - 16th Dec) and I (Taurus) are, and how much a libra is going to impact our lives! Can you enlighten me flyer?

My little one will be a Libra. The only other Libra I know iss my dad and we can't stand each other.

chickieno1 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:21:56

My dh is a Scorpio and a lot of people who I seem to click with are scorpios too. One of my best friends has the same birthday as dh (as does mil)

Baby will be a libra though as due 17th oct. another of my best friends is a libra though so should be ok.

I'm Gemini so not sure how that all fits.

Ds 1 early sept what does that make him?

I am a libra and a complicated mess but I was always good to parents, cant always say the same back..

Your ds is a Virgo chickie

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:33:04

Mystic meg will be back shortly to give you the low down on your signs...I have to dry my hair firstly :-)

JethroTull Tue 18-Jun-13 22:35:35

Oooh I love a bit of woo astrology Flyer. I'm a libra, my husband is a Sagitarius & baby will be a Libra - possibly even with the same birthday as me!

OrangeBlossom hope you feel better tomorrow, last night sounded horrid. Amazing that you managed to make it to work.

Is anyone else suffering from hay fever? Mine is awful at the moment & not being able to take anything is breaking me. Any ideas / solutions would be very gratefully received.

roofio87 Tue 18-Jun-13 22:42:03

jethro yes I get hayfever too
my Dr prescribed me some eye drops and a nasal spray that are working well for me and totally safe in pg!

JethroTull Tue 18-Jun-13 22:45:39

Thanks Roofio. I just assumed it wasn't worth going to see the doctors but will make an appointment now.

I'm a Libra and I'm lovely grin and I was a lovely baby/child/teenager! in fact all of our family are quite stereotypical of our star signs, DH is a typical extrovert Leo, DD1 is a quiet Pisces and DD2 is my bossy little Aries!

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 23:15:00

Ok Hayle you are Virgo which is an earth sign, and supposed to be a perfectionist, very sensitive underneath but tries to cover up the sensitivity, you like routines and things done a certain way, very hard working this is one of your finest qualities.

Your DP is a Leo, usually very much a proud person, likes to be the centre of attention and in the lime light, they like to have their ego stroked and made to feel special, romantic and very loving, ambitious individuals , they are after all king the jungle.

DD is an Aquarius, usually non conformists and have quirky little traits, Aquarians are very friendly people who love to be different and stand out from the crowd. An air sign so not as emotional as what say a water sign would be, they are more logical and do things on a mental level. However she is a child so the above is probably more meant for an adult.

In terms of compatibility you actually are all quite different, you are an earth sign and typically go well with fellow earth signs (Taurus, capricorns, Virgo) you also mix well with water signs cancer and Scorpio, your polar opposite is pisces, usually not the best for relationship terms.

Your 13th oct due date libra is also like dd an air sign, so in terms of astrology they should get along very well indeed.

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 23:20:37

For anyone wanting to know better about their natal chart (this is your full personality) there is a good website which is alabe.com if you google free natal chart it's usually the top of google search and just put in name, dob, time of birth and place of birth (no need to put in email address) it will give you a full break down. You could be a Virgo sun sign but your rising sign can determine your personality quite a lot!

Glad baby is fine mystic meg grin I'm an Aquarius by one day, DPs birthday is 3 days before mine and he is Capricorn. Don't know how 'on the cusp' stuff works though?!

Happy birthday Chicken my GTT is more about having Caribbean in me than being mixed race iykwim. Apparently it makes me high risk. I was a bit hmm when she said it tbh. Likewise when I was given my blood results back and she said I didn't have sickle cell or the trait as if I should be really relieved- I already said that no one in my family has it at my booking in app, sometimes they get a bit hung up on the risk factors I think. A bit 'computer says no' lol. All of the midwives I've met have been lovely though, just one of those procedure things to cover backs I guess.

Natalie last week I was on the sofa wearing a vest with no bra, DP says 'what's that?' I looked down and my vest was stuck to my nipple- crusty nipple AND vest. I can occasionally squeeze some not that I attempt to every other day or anything out but it's clear. Belly button is well and truly out now, can see a bump through a vest and top. Not impressed.

Landlord gave permission for us to paint but we're in a 1 bed so its more about me getting stressed out looking at no longer white woodwork and wanting to feel more cosy. Nesting and all that jazz...

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 23:30:58

Roxvox you are a Taurus so another earth sign, your are loyal, have great strength, you can be quite stubborn and although usually very calm and chilled it takes you a lot to lose your temper but when you do then people certainly know about it. Usually very patient too and often conservative.

Your DH is a sagi a fire sign, they like their freedom very friendly folk, although they can be honest sometimes to the point of being brutal. A lot of sagis are sporty, they can come across a bit flirtatious but it's simply their friendly nature. Often restless people who like to be on the go a lot trying new things out. They are very upbeat people who like adventure and quite a charmer too.

Your libra baby is an air sign...air and fire signs mix very well :-)

My god father is a sagi I love him to bits he's like my second dad...he never fails to make me smile

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 23:33:01

Jethro a perfect combo....libra/sagi/libra it'll be a house with no dramas and fun.

Flyer747 Tue 18-Jun-13 23:41:02

Feminist the cusp is 5 days + - of the change over of star signs. So you'll both be influenced by Aquarius and Capricorn traits. Although a proper astrologer would say you are a aqua and he a capi...my DP is 20 jan right on the cusp and def has a mixture of both traits.

Finally on the astrology thing (you'll all be thinking I'm a weirdo) there is a really famous astrologer who is dead but she writes a piece on each sign, so the Virgo woman, man, child, boss etc. she gets it to a T her name is Linda Goodman (I have her books) her pieces are on the Internet. Google your sign with woman or your partners sign with man after her name and you can see what she says.

Sorry for the mega long posts! Over and out...

Congratulaions on the job Sanji. will you take up the post before or after mat leave?

Thanks flyer, we wondered this week what sign bean would be.
DH is libra and very indecisive, wanting to please everyone. I am Leo but not at all extrovert. Determined and maybe bossy though! DH would love our wriggly little one to be sporty.

I am feeling much better for being back in my own bed after a few nights on the sofa bed for decorating (DH did a really good job) and the laryngitis continues to improve. The curtains are still in the wash and is nice to wake up naturally with the sun and a tummy full of little kicks. Hopefully today will be a feel good day.

Natalieand Wed 19-Jun-13 07:01:08

flyer if me dd and dh are air signs and this baby is due oct 14th does this mean technically we aren't compatible?

HotSoupDumpling Wed 19-Jun-13 07:13:44

Sanji, huge congratulations! That is great news.

I'm watching the progress of my tummy button with interest. No an outie yet... But getting there!

PseudoBadger Wed 19-Jun-13 07:18:49

Well done Sanjifair!

No carpal tunnel yesterday so feeling a bit happier. I've got a busy couple of days at work now in terms of walking and standing so I expect to be worn out....

I'm an Aries, DP is Aquarius and DS is Capricorn I think. No idea how a late Sept/early October sign will fit in with us grin

Haylebop12 Wed 19-Jun-13 07:38:53

So interesting flyer some of the traits match but as for dh wanting to be centre of attention that is the opposite for him really. Mine is fairly true. I do tend to keep my sesotivity in amd just quietly seethe about stuff! Glad dd and baby will get on
Though :-)

cuillereasoupe Wed 19-Jun-13 07:53:44

I'm a libra, DP is a taurus and the baby will be scorpio, but I don't believe in any of it anyway so it's immaterial. I'm just hoping he doesn't decide to put in an appearance on my bastard ex's birthday, which he may well if he goes a few days overdue. Still, not much I can do about it I suppose!

I've decided to go for an African savannah theme for the nursery. I grew up there and I'd love to pass a bit of that on to my wee boy.

cuillereasoupe Wed 19-Jun-13 07:54:33

^^I have yet to run the idea past DP by the way but I'll make sure I get my way grin

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:21:20

Natalie you and DH are water signs (pisces, cancer, Scorpio) you baby if born on the 14th would be a libra which is an air sign.

However it goes a little deeper than just your star sign, because as orange pointed out (she is a Leo, fire sign) she doesn't like the limelight or the centre of attention. You have a rising sign which heavily influences your personality. For example I'm a pisces but my rising sign is a Sagittarius, usually a pisces is very laid back, non argumentative. However as my next strong sign is a fire sign (sagi) then it hugely dilutes my pisces nature and adds that firey side I have to my personality. That's why hayle husband and orange say they aren't typical Leo's it's because they'll have other influences that dilute those traits...hard to explain on here.

It's too hard to lump people into 12 category's (for the 12 zodiac signs) and unless you have a full natal chart done there is no full way of knowing your true personality according to astrology....if you had a full chart done I'm pretty sure you'd find it 100% accurate about your character.
DP a is a sceptic as are most people, however I did him a full chart and low and behold he couldn't believe it's accuracy....long post again.

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:26:39

Glad you are feeling more human again orange.

I'm late for work after writing that mammoth post before oops!

Wickedgirl Wed 19-Jun-13 09:20:26

Yay......I too have reached 24 weeks!

It's also my birthday today so I am sitting eating peanut M&Ms for breakfast. Yummy

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 19-Jun-13 09:29:19

Soupe - I didn't want DD to arrive on my Ex's mother's birthday (very annoying woman) and, bless her, she missed it by 12 hours. Fingers crossed your little boy avoids that date for you.

Your nursery theme sounds lovely and nice to have that connection with your childhood. I can't see how DP can object. Like some others, we won't be doing any decorating as the baby will be in with us for a good while. Then we'll have a hard decision to make - whether to move or have a loft conversion etc. <not sure how we'll finance it but ho, hum>

Technically we are in a three bed property but the third bedroom is really tiny. I can't see DD wanting to share and, even if we move all DP's books out of the little bedroom, it still leaves the problem of what to do with his 'sacred' massive book collection. According to DP they are far, far, too precious to be boxed up and put in the loft.

DP is a wonderful chap in lots of ways but his hoarding side does drive me mad at times.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 19-Jun-13 09:30:32

Have a fantastic day Wicked - Happy Birthday flowers

Haylebop12 Wed 19-Jun-13 09:38:09

bridget how old is your dd? Mine is 4.4 and said only this morning that she wants baby in her room... I swiftly told her he wouldn't fit!

I'm due 13th, my nephew is the 1st, nan the 10th and my sister the 14th. At least I know I'll have him before Halloween, can dress him up then haha!

Haylebop12 Wed 19-Jun-13 09:39:08

Happy birthday wicked

I've had my toast And marmite but HAD to finish off the Terry's chocolate orange grin

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 19-Jun-13 10:06:08

Haylebop - Your DD sounds very sweet; my DD is 6 (she'll be nearly 7 when the baby arrives). I think her bedroom will probably end up being her refuge away from a marauding toddler determined to taste all her choke-hazardous tiny toys and 'share' whatever she happens to be playing with at the time.

Most of DD's plans for the baby involve teaching it say rude words as soon possible and getting it into trouble. I made the big mistake of telling her that the baby can already hear, so she has taken to pretending to cuddle my bump and then whispering "fart" down my belly button when she thinks I'm not looking.

A few people (who don't know DD that well) have commented, along the lines of, how wonderful it will be to have DD as a little helper and how maternal she'll be. I tend to just pull a very doubtful face in response.

I can't wait the dress the baby in some sort of ridiculous Halloween outfit.

Wickedgirl Wed 19-Jun-13 10:22:22

My DD will be nearly 15 when this baby is born and she is so excited, bless her. It is lovely though. This baby will be cuddled so much by its siblings.....poor little thing will never be left alone to sleep in its own bed!

roxvox Wed 19-Jun-13 10:26:49

Thank you for the description of us Flyer! All seemed very accurate (especially about DH). It's good to know that he and baby will get on well... I hope there is room for a Taurus to share love with them!

I became seriously fed up of my under the bump maternity jeans over the weekend, so went on a mad hunt for some tall over the bump jeans (quite hard to come by by all accounts). I didn't want to spend more than £30, but ended up begrudgingly spending £48. They arrived yesterday and oh my word - over the bump is so bloody comfortable! I swear I could sleep in these jeans. The only downside is that baby used to kick the band on my old jeans (where it dug in to my stomach) so I am actually feeling less kicks in these jeans!

roxvox Wed 19-Jun-13 10:31:52

Bridget that made me laugh that your DD is trying to teach baby rude words already!

The only child in either of our families is DH's niece, who is 10 this year. She was super excited at first when we told her about us having a baby, but then she soon worked out that by the time the baby was her age she would be 20, which lost the spark for her unfortunately. She's always been saying that she really wants a cousin who she can play with, so I think that he initial thought was excitement at the prospect of having someone to play with, but then the age difference ruined it for her. Also, she is the only child of her parents, and the only grandchild of her grandparents, so I think it will be strange for her to have to share one set of grandparents with another child.

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 10:42:50

happy birthday wicked and congrats on 24 weeks!! flowers Are you doing anything special today?

And massive congrats sanji! I'm so happy for you! grin With your victory you've vindicated so many of us on this thread! And don't worry how it feels now, if it feels a bit "tainted" by his earlier behaviour. Long term it won't matter and a few months off will blur this memory a lot.

bridget my DS (almost 5) seems to be going through the same stage with "bad words". He says he wants to call the baby "poo poo baby" and thinks it's really funny. Poo poo is as bad as it gets these days but I'm expecting worse any time soon. Thankfully he goes to a really good school and I've never heard any kid swear there so hope this will help slow it down a bit!

soup my due date is 22 October although by my own calculations it's 24th. 24th Oct is my very very long term ex's birthday so really trying to avoid it too. He is actually a really good friend now but still, would be far too weird!!

flyer I'm also sort of skeptical when it comes to astrology, mainly because I think I should be. However, reading my horoscope is always like reading a book about me, accurate to the point of being spooky... and the same goes for my DS who is a Leo, dominant, proud, needs attention and limelight all the time, bossy, confident. We have daily battles of wills. The most incredible horoscope I've ever had put together was my vedic horoscope - my Indian yoga master insisted on it when I studied there. It was incredibly detailed - including things like "an illness at the age of 16 that interrupted my education for a year" (I even forgot about it myself!). So, apparently I will live to the age of 91, have two husbands and two children grin

Umlauf Wed 19-Jun-13 11:22:21

Happy birthday wicked what are your plans?!

I´m off to check out your link flyer as although I´m quite un-woo, my horoscope is rather accurate for my personality (Aquarius!) and I'm curious.

Hayle that story about your dd is so cute! I can't stop giggling imagining it!

I am having MAJOR stresses today!

Our moving house date has been confirmed. It is SEPTEMBER 30th. Baby is due on... SEPTEMBER 30TH.

We can't stay later (already begged!) and forfeit our €2000 deposit if we leave earlier. We can't even look for a new place until the end of August as there is such demand for houses here that no landlord will reserve a house for longer than 2-3 weeks. Also due to changes in renting conditions in my part of Spain I need to find a €5000 deposit by then. And tomorrow is my last day of work and ergo, salary.


roxvox Wed 19-Jun-13 11:36:14

Forgot to say Happy Birthday to Wicked - I hope you have a lovely day! Have you got any nice plans?

Umlauf that sounds super stressful. It's a shame your landlord can't be just a tad understanding and allow you to stay an extra month or something.

flyer I had a look at that site you recommended; for me it was 90% accurate (had quite a bit about loving being the centre of attention - which I actually hate, but the rest was bang on). It was also pretty accurate for DH when I put in his details! I do find it fascinating, but don't follow it quite to the same level as my sister who seems to live by it.

Natalieand Wed 19-Jun-13 11:49:06

Ouch! That does sound stressful umlauf hope u manage to get everything sorted and find the perfect place xx

Happy birthday wicked xxx

hayle your dd sounds a bit like mine even tho she is only 2.9 years she says she's gunna share her toys with baby and baby is gunna share her room and she talks about nappies and wet wipes for the baby and tried looking through my belly button at him but when I ask her what name shall we give baby I just get told were gunna call him 'baby' lol it's so cute isn't it!

Just done the food shop on a very empty stomach.... Now I can't decide what to eat first. Think ill start with a donut lol

favellio Wed 19-Jun-13 12:11:51

Happy birthday wicked grin
I'm 24 weeks today too. Starting to feel a few more movements but not what I'd call proper kicks yet (damn you anterior placenta!!) has anyone else had a weird numb/tingly patch on their bump occasionally? I went Pilates last night and every time I bent forward I got this weird feeling, like a mild electric shock, on a 50p sized patch at the top of my bump!
Apart from SPD, everything appears to be going swimmingly. I can't wait to meet our little surprise now smile

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 12:55:57

Roxvox I don't live by it, like your sister i have heard of people not dating someone because they aren't a good match...A bit silly hey.

Wow clapham your yoga master sounds amazing. I love a bit of clairvoyancy, although again it's just a bit of fun. I've only ever had one accurate reading. When i popped to my friends last night funnily enough we were talking about having a night with a medium/clairvoyant.

Happy Birthday Wicked, I hope you have a lovely day and get spoilt rotten.

My baby likes fruit pastilles very much so it seems, it got rather excited after i ate a huge bag!

roofio87 Wed 19-Jun-13 13:19:02

Haha thanks for the tip roxvox id been thinking that my baby's movements had felt softer and less noticeable today, but also have a big over the bump maternity skirt on, rolled it down and now feeling lots, funny how that affects it!!

Wickedgirl Wed 19-Jun-13 13:24:11

My plans for today are: relaxing with my book while the children are at school and then Chinese for dinner tonight. As this is my last pregnancy, I intend to make it as relaxing as possible. grin

Have a lovely day Wicked Relaxing with a book sounds very good. The last time I read a book was last summer. I never seem to find the time to read now.

Smitten1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 14:37:50

Happy Birthday Wicked.

I went to book in at my new hospital today and it was amazing. So professional and the midwife was so through and friendly. I was only there an hour, unlike the three hours it took at the last one.

I was told that as my BMI was OK at my first booking weight that I don't need a glucose tolerance test at all - hurrah!

I'm SO glad I swapped hospitals, I feel much more happy now.

I woke in the night last night with the worst stomach ache/period like cramps. I've never had anything like it, luckily it had stopped by this morning, but I went into a bit of a panic in case it meant the baby was coming. Luckily it stopped after a while.

Maybe I ate something dodgy/too much food before bed.

roxvox Wed 19-Jun-13 15:37:37

I have known my sister to write off a date in advance after finding out the guys star sign, so I know what you mean Flyer!

Wicked sounds like a lovely, relaxing day. I am jealous sat here in our incredibly toasty office!

I have had a couple of days now where I want to be constantly eating. I wouldn't say that I am 'hungry' asuch, more just that I feel continuously peckish! Am trying to surround myself with fruit, but that doesn't last long and isn't what I am craving (not really sure what I am craving). Anyone else feeling the same?

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 16:21:15

umlauf this sounds so stressful... do you have any family or friends to help you with the move or in case something doesn't go according to plan? And glad you are feeling better in your new clothes, I know you were quite down about it for a while.

smitten so glad you like your new hospital! It's so important to feel comfortable and have trust in new midwives. Makes so much difference.

favellio congrats on 24 weeks! never had the numb / tingly patch sensation you are talking about... perhaps others have had and know what causes it

roxvox this is how I feel most of the time. I want to eat something but not quite sure what. And I'm quite fussy about my food, very unlike me as I can usually eat anything. It's hot in London today so I think I will make pasta with cherry tomatoes, mozzarella and capers... appeals at the moment but may well change by 7pm!

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 16:24:11

by the way, I can no longer do my toe nails... bump is well in the way now... I've just tried bending in all possible directions and no, doesn't work... (I'm off and home today). Do you have any advice? I remember painting my toe nails when pregnant with DS so no idea what I'm doing wrong now...

Natalieand Wed 19-Jun-13 16:39:53

Glad u are pleased with hour new hospital smitten xx

Clapham No advice on the nail painting? Could ask dh to do it and if he says no then make him pay for a pedicure lo

Textbook just looked at the uaername thing on facebook i didnt realiase u lived near me :-) I live in littlehampton (few minutes east of Bognor Regis) and having baby at st Richards in Chichester where r u hoping to have baby?

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 16:40:30

Roxvox i'm the same with food, the fruit isn't doing it for me. I have found cooking a chore since being pregnant, i'm not a very good cook at the best of times. Clapham your tea sounds yummy, i can imagine you are a really good cook, I had avoided scallops during pregnancy, however after you were talking about eating them last week i'm gutted i've deprived myself.

Why not going to get a pedicure with gel polish on your trotters that way it will last about 4 weeks other than that get dp to do it for you, or get a friend round, i was forever doing my best mates toes for her in her last two pregnancies.

I'm struggling to see my lady bits over my bump now, sorry if that's tmi.

Haha yes me too flyer, can't see above my upper thighs any more. I think I may treat myself to full leg and bikini wax for the summer soon. My friend suggested it before birth too as makes stitches easier and easier to keep clean with all the sticky gunk afterwards (nice).

Eek Umlauf. I would suggest hiring a removals company like Pickford in the UK to box everything up, move it and unload at the other end. You and DP may be a bit busy!

Very hot and sticky here today. Glad it should be slightly cooler by the time we are at our biggest.

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 17:24:45

I like your thinking natalie and flyer! I absolutely don't trust DP in this department so it will have to be a professional pedi. Unless you fancy a weekend in London flyer? :-) very welcome!

And my tea is dead simple - Jamie Oliver style 15min job. Like most Italian dishes it's mainly about good quality ingredients and proportions, not too much skill required. I believe scallops are perfectly fine as long as they are properly cooked, same as prawns etc... I draw the line when it comes to mussels, oysters and sashimi... OMG I miss proper sushi and sashimi so much... I think it will be my first meal after I give birth... with a baked camembert for dessert...

Umlauf Wed 19-Jun-13 17:27:51

I really don't know what we will do, we can't really afford to be paying 2 months rent at the same time for an overlap. Maybe a week or so but no more, and we don't really have people here we would feel comfortable asking as its such a massive job sad Just hoping the little one will be a bit late! We don't actually have that much stuff as we chucked so much out before moving and only had a carload, so its not so much the stuff, its the unpacking, and if our new place is unfurnished then that will be horrific! Urgh I don't wanna think about it!!!!

That's great news about the hospital smitten it sounds reassuring! Is it closer to home aswell?

clapham will you come and cook for me?!! That's made me feel very hungry! Ill do your toenails in return!!!!

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 17:38:33

umlauf this is a great deal - checking flights to San Sebastian right now!! :-)

Can you perhaps ask someone from your family in the UK to come for a couple of weeks? In your situation it may be a blessing and, in case you have the baby earlier, they could do all the running around with your DH?

PseudoBadger Wed 19-Jun-13 17:41:39

Favellio I'm still numb after my emcs so can't really help you I'm afraid grin
Smitten are you sure it wasn't heartburn? The first time I had it was agony and I had no idea what it was.
Clapham I had sushi for lunch today (mainly salmon based), it was yum! The fish all has to be frozen before it's served if you buy it from a reputable supplier. Do you have any Wasabi chain near you?
My meal plan for tonight is either pasta bake or filled potato skins, both too hot for this weather sad
My bump extends further than my ample boobs now!

legallyblond Wed 19-Jun-13 17:53:45

Hi all! Just checking in really! Still in one piece (phew!) and the operation has worked as at my follow up scan (last week) my cervix had doubled in length thanks to the stitch... Hooray!! I now get scanned / monitored every two weeks, so I am seeing these babies lots!

Poor you Umlauf. I reckon you can manage though. Book a removal firm to do the move for you (in the UK there are firms who will pack and unpack as well as move the stuff) and have a couple of suitcases on hand of essentials as if you were on holiday, plus a suitcase for the baby...?

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 19-Jun-13 18:15:39

Legally that's great news - what a relief.

Obviously it's a very personal thing, but I think I read some research once which came to the conclusion keeping your nether regions hairy actually slightly decreases the risk of postnatal infections down there. I guess sometimes mother nature puts hair in places for a reason.

Wow legally great news. Have you been uncomfortable with that rapid stretching?

Hmm interesting Bridget, I will research! (Have to be careful what I type into google! blush )

cazboldy Wed 19-Jun-13 18:40:43

Great news Legally smile

Happy Birthday Wicked flowers

Umlauf - pack everything up, if baby is on time (unlikely) leave it all to dp while you have a few days in hospital while he sorts it all out!

Bonus! grin

(Although I would hate doing this, as I am a control freak, and he wouldn't do anything properly!!!)

claphammama Wed 19-Jun-13 18:48:27

amazing news legally! grin

yes pseudo they seem to have two in oxford street! smile should check it out then! they have sushi regularly in my office but no idea where they get it from.

orange I read the same thing as bridget about the hairy nether regions. And I choose to accept this theory also because I'm so busy that struggle to be as groomed as I used to be before DS... poor DP smile

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Wed 19-Jun-13 18:55:51

Orange - I reckon it's probably one of those things whereby you just have to do what you are most comfortable with and the statistical difference in outcomes is tiny. My poor old foof is so swollen these days there's no way in the world a beautician is going anywhere near it!

First time around I didn't go into hospital to give birth until I'd finish shaving my legs - much to DP's annoyance as he was convinced we'd end up stuck in the morning rush hour.

Smitten1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 19:15:11

Umlauf - the hospital is a little further away, but it only took half an hour this morning and that was during rush hour so all should be ok.

Pseudo - no, definitely not heartburn, I've had enough of that lately. I just woke up feeling like I was about to have the worst bout of diahorrea ever but nothing was forthcoming. It was a cross between stomach cramps and period pain. So weird.

Hopefully it won't happen again tonight.

I'm other news the pram was delivered this afternoon so we'll be building that later! Fun times.

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 19:24:49

Orange I laughed at your comment about searching in google.

Claphammama I miss sashimi, Camembert, Brie, rare fillet steak, goats cheese, shropshire blue cheese, all washed down with lots of red wine, oh and I almost forgot a runny egg! I can't wait for Xmas DP is on baby duty whilst I have lots of the above, pay back for his recent partying and upcoming stag do's.

That's really good news legally and how lovely getting to see your babies every few weeks.

I went for a Brazilian once some Vietnamese lady caused me much pain, she was so rough I thought she was gonna rip me in two, it put me off ever having it done again, so I've always shaved, however as I can no longer see what I'm doing and I wouldn't let DP lose down there with a razor I will have to try waxing again.

ComtessedeFrouFrou Wed 19-Jun-13 19:50:18

I have been eating sushi since day one without any problems - as Pseudo says it's all frozen before they serve it which should kill any nasties. There is a (very small) listeria risk, but no more than eating ham from the deli counter etc. The book Bumpology is really good on stuff like this - it helps to actually assess the extent of the risk, rather than just saying "don't do that".

In other news, DH has just stormed out because I got cross with him - I was on the phone to internet banking people and they wanted some information for security, only he felt the need to tell me I was doing it all wrong while I was trying to answer the woman's questions. I wasn't, he just assumes he always knows better hmm. So I told him off and now he's taken his pizza out of the oven and taken the car off somewhere.

Oh. He's back. To be honest, I'd rather he pissed off and sulked somewhere else than hung around the house being an arse.

I know I'm snapping at him, but I'm fed up with him watching me struggle with things (like levering myself up out of our low-slung sofa or lugging the shopping in) and then saying, all surprised, but you should have let me help you?! Or he'll listen to me wince bending to get something out of the oven or getting up from a chair at a funny angle but not express any sympathy and just keep talking about something else hmm

It doesn't help that I'm not sleeping very well (two nights of waking up at 4 am or waking drenched in sweat having had weird dreams) but, honestly, I'd like a bit of consideration.

ComtessedeFrouFrou Wed 19-Jun-13 19:51:16

On the plus side, I bought the fabric for the curtains in the nursery today. That made me happy smile

Natalieand Wed 19-Jun-13 20:14:20

contessede tell me about it! It must be national knob head husband/partner week my dh has had a face like a slapped arse for days and can't stay awake half hour after getting in from work which is causing major arguments between us I sent him a series of texts today when he was at work laying it on the line and he's been home an hour and a half now and isn't asleep yet and just trimmed the horrible bush in the front garden that attracts the bees (my major phobia)

Men have no idea how difficult tiring exhausting everything becomes when being pregnant not just physically but emotionally too!

GTbaby Wed 19-Jun-13 20:23:18

Omgoodness. Im exhausted. I've got a cold now. Did a pile of ironing. Which has really stretched my tummy. I feel like I felt at 8months lady time hmm

Nappy change time

Shirehobbit Wed 19-Jun-13 20:31:53

On the personal grooming topics, I had, coincidentally, planned a bit of an indulgence/self-pampering evening tonight while DH is off playing football.

It turns out I can still reach my toes to do the nails grin and, as I can't face waxing at the moment, I've experimented with a bit of Veet for my bikini forest line. Have to report the Veet seems to be a god compromise. It took some contortions and use of mirrors, but it's better than before IYKWIM blush

Hello everyone! Happy birthday wickedgirl!

I've got 52 days of work left, and that's with having Wednesdays off from 17th July, then Tuesdays and Thursdays off from September... I'm working up to 38 weeks. My commute is very easy (10 minute walk) and I guess I can leave earlier if I need to?

Anyway, I'm currently on holiday in Nice and today we've had a very nice Michelin starred lunch in Eze (a town up the road), and I'm not thinking about work! I really needed a break, work and decorating was really getting too much.

Flyer I'm quite into astrology too (I have a friend who's obsessed with Linda Goodman, she's ace isn't she). I've been feeling a bit apprehensive about a Libra as the ones I know really struggle with expressing their wishes clearly and get so caught up with trying to please everyone. I find it quite frustrating! Ah well, I can only hope baby's rising and moon signs are a little more dynamic.

Smitten I'm glad your new hospital is better for you. Could your pain have been trapped wind? If you don't get that regularly you might not know how surprisingly painful it can be, and it does fit your description. I'm super parpy since being pregnant blush

I've been really liking mamas and papas maternity clothes, they were fairly reasonable anyway and now have a 50% off sale on. The jeans do all fall down but if they were much tighter in the hips I think they'd cut into my stomach. The under bump ones have belt loops and I've been tying a silk scarf through them to keep them up, that helps. I also got a couple of tankinis (they didn't have bikinis) and they are unexpectedly supportive on the boobs, and I'm currently a size 36g. Their sizing is extremely generous though (I've gone down 1-2 dress sizes). Also new look cropped leggings are good for short ladies to wear under dresses, stops your thighs rubbing.

favellio I've got a numb left thigh, I think it's meralgia - a blocked nerve thing? Should pass after birth apparently.

legally hurrah for your lengthening cervix!

umlauf goodness me that sounds stressful! You seem to have a good attitude about it - and it sounds like you're doing everything you can. These things always come together in the end, even if it's a bit if a hairy journey.

Sorry for the marathon post!

chickieno1 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:42:52

Happy birthday wicked your day sounds lovely.

Congrats on the job sanji it'll be good to have everything sorted after mat leave.

Good news legally

About grooming, still able to shave which is good as really don't like waxing. Will go for one bikini wax just before baby arrives though.

I bought a bra today! Yay! It was 34C in a specialty maternity and bf shop so fit well. Expensive though sad . Now I have to find a strapless bra........

chickieno1 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:45:16

Sounds stressful umlauf maybe some friends might help you with packing/unpacking? Sometimes people can surprise you if you ask.

Good you're feeling better orange

Smitten might it be Braxton hicks you are feeling? What I am having that I think is BH is a cramps tight feeling that also feels a bit like I need a poo that goes away after a minute or so. But mine is at the bottom of my bump, did you say yours was at the top?

Struggling to get my school reports finished before Friday. At lest DH is working late tonight so no distractions. I am usually so organised but have got really behind with illness and tiredness and have to et them all done by tomorrow night. My coccyx is killing me today as I forgot to sit on my special chair and have been on a small, hard chair for most of the day. It aches to sit and aches even more to stand up. Oh dear.

Sorry those of you having arguments with partners. DH is still being good, although when I was in bed feeling sick and calling for a bin/bucket/bag this week he got cross because he was up a ladder at the time and practically threw it at me, by which time I had already made it to the bathroom, making me jump and then feel even worse. I then cried. Other than that top man points so far.

Smitten1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:52:15

No, it was at the bottom of the bump and did feel like I needed to poo. It did pass my mind that it might be BH. I was thinking 'I can't take hours of this' ha ha.

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:54:56

Panacotta Linda G is fab isn't she, her write ups are so accurate. Another astrologer I like is Susan Miller her monthly horoscopes are pretty good (although a tad American)

What star sign are you?

Ooh I've not heard of her. I tend to read more the personality stuff rather than horoscopes, but if she's good maybe I'll check her out? I'm Leo, with Virgo rising and Pisces moon. My dp is Scorpio, and won't let me find out his rising and moon (but I'm sure there's some Taurus in there!)

Flyer747 Wed 19-Jun-13 21:39:01

That's a good mixture I'm your chart panacotta. I'm pisces sun, sagi rising, cancer moon, cancer in Venus no wonder I cry at the drop of a hat with all the water signs!

Sneakily Ask DP's parents what time he was born so you can find out. My DP has loads of Aquarius in his chart, so cool and detached compared to me!

Enjoy your holiday not envious at all :-)

Thanks Flyer, yep it does help to balance some of the extremes out - Virgos do my head in normally, I was a bit gutted when I saw that to begin with, but frankly it's probably good to have a bit of earthiness to temper that Leo narcissism and Pisces hippiness! I'm more loving of earth signs in general than I used to be. And nice for you to have that fire in there too. I think it's the elements that I tend to think more about than signs (and never got my head around houses very well yet). I do like Aquarians tho, I have a soft spot for them.

Yep it has occurred to me to ask his mum - have to do it on the down low... And yes holiday is very lovely thanks! smile

GTbaby Wed 19-Jun-13 21:58:42

Thanks for sharing veet experience shire. I'm considering this option. Extremely swollen down their and SPD won't let me get into waxable positions. Lol.

Sanjifair Wed 19-Jun-13 22:01:37

Thanks all for the congrats. Hopefully it will all get sorted before I go off, which will be late September.

Legally, good news on the stitch doing its job.

Smitten was it Addenbrookes you moved to? I know someone was talking about moving there on an earlier thread but can't remember if it was you?

Umlauf that sounds like a stressful time to move, hopefully you can plan everything well in advance to make it as stress free as possible.

Clapham nice pic of you and Michel on FB!

Smitten1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 22:15:21

Yes, I moved to Addenbrooke's. It's a hundred times better than the one I was at before.

I feel much more confident about giving birth there.

chickieno1 Thu 20-Jun-13 04:30:41

Yes lovely pic clapham

JellyCurls Thu 20-Jun-13 06:48:04

Great news legally keep those twins baking as long as you can.

Flyer you now have me completely engrossed in my star sign and have googled both your tips. That Linda woman is scarily accurate for me (a very typical chatty Gemini) but your other link confused me. Too many symbols on chart for me, a mere mortal, to fathom out but summary is a Gemini with a Gemini sun and a gemini moon! Must be either really lucky or really unlucky

Shirehobbit Thu 20-Jun-13 07:37:06

Morning all smile

We're off to our local NCT annual meeting, tonight. I get nervous in new social situations, as I'm really quite shy in RL. But it's too good an opportunity to miss with the sling library and loads of other groups giving presentations/offers etc, so I need to just deal with my anxiety and get myself there.
I know it's ridiculous, as I'm finally beginning to look pregnant, but I still half expect people to look at me and wonder why we're there! blush

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 07:38:39

morning all
long day for me today, doing a pediatric first aid course 9 30-4 then youth club 6-9 30 so will be out the house 8-10!! oh well, off tomorrow and finally going to get to spend some time with dp as we've barely seen each other this week!!
legally so glad the stitch has worked for you smile

Ooh who are you doing the first aid course with? I did paediatric first aid years ago with work but would like to do a refresher based on baby first aid.

Having my repeat scan at 12 so I hope little Eliana behaves today. My sister is going to cone along and wait in the waiting room with youngest dd so I've got some support if we do get any bad news but I'm feeling pretty positive. That doesn't mean that you lovely lot can go uncrossing your fingers just yet.

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 20-Jun-13 08:06:13

Morning! orange think nct do baby first aid courses or try ringing your local sure start centre, ours run them occasionally.
I've been feeling Braxton hicks! In bed last night and really felt them quite strongly and so much earlier than with ds.
I bought some mamas and papas maternity stuff in the sale, it arrived yesterday and I'm really pleased with it. Have also been buying normally clothes in my normal size to wear for next year!!! Anyone else doing this?! I'm just sick of having clothes I hate and I figure it'll be an incentive to get back to my pre- pregnancy size if I have a wardrobe of unworn lovelies to wear! It's all summer stuff in the sales.

HotSoupDumpling Thu 20-Jun-13 08:19:44

Legally, glad it's going well!

Umlauf, that sounds super stressy. There must be a solution. Someone here or in RL will think of it! How can your landlord not be flexible at all? Is there any way to offer a slight financial incentive (say slightly increased rent) to stay a few months - would still be cheaper than paying double rent? Or do you really want to go early? Surely s/he can't penalise you for moving early as long as you can find someone to take your place... What's his/her loss in that situation?

Have also hit the sales recently, picked up a few naughty but reduced (so less guilt) cute bits for the baby. Might go again and try and find some stuff for me (maybe breast feeding friendly stuff I can wear in autumn).

I would love sashimi and steak right now. Particularly sushi. But I have researched and Itsu and Yo Sushi (and all the posher sushi restaurants we like to got to) use fresh unfrozen salmon apparently. The tuna is pre-frozen but I'm not a fan. Will check out Wasabi!

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:19:55

good luck with scan today Mon hope they see.everything well this time
orange I'm doing the full on 12 hour course for work, but I've seen a couple of smaller courses on, one in our local kiddicare store. I think that was 2 hrs at £7 which is good. I am glad I have to do this now anyway (hoping to set up as a childminder after mat leave) as it'll be nice to feel prepared when baby arrives!!

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:23:12

thanks for mentioning that hotsoup have been avoiding sushi anyway, but would have assumed chains like that were probably ok!! still feel sorry for my sis who went to visit my other sister in Tokyo and found out she was pregnant the week before she went!!

PseudoBadger Thu 20-Jun-13 08:38:08

Just to clarify that a restaurant can ONLY not use frozen fish if they are using farmed salmon which is certified. So there is no risk of parasites, as they will have to be meeting this safety requirement in this way - they can't just merrily litter the population with parasites grin

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 08:47:13

good luck today MoN!

yes, I also did it shooting! I bought a summer dress in sales for next summer. It was a great price and just too nice to leave it there. The dress is my pre-pregnancy size 8 and very unforgiving in the tummy area so not sure how it's going to work... I'm quite confident I can lose the baby weight, much less confident about getting my stomach muscles back... so it's there in the wardrobe to incentivise me after October...

shire don't worry about it. Just think that most people will feel the same and no one can see how you feel inside. The same way you can't see how they feel inside! I bet you will be OK and chatting away after 10min!

I think DP forgave me for enforcing a doctor appointment on him when he heard this morning's news of James Gandolfini's death... I scheduled it for him without asking for next Monday and he's been in the mood with me about it for two days... but I'm so concerned about his weight, blood pressure and the junk I sometimes find out he eats for lunch... he doesn't listen to me so I thought it needed someone else with more credibility to give him a wake up call. Although now I think this news did half of the job already...

JellyCurls Thu 20-Jun-13 08:49:45

Good luck with scan today MoN

I have just been to canteen for some much needed food. Asked for some toast but was told that they can't make toast as against health and safety to have a toaster in building but if I wanted they could make me a panini. Asked if they could put the bread in the panini grill but got told no as thats cross contamination of food. baffled to say the least! First and last time I go there for breakfast.

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 08:56:32

Haha jelly h&s really has gone mad!!

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 09:00:34

jelly do they mean your slice of bread would contaminate their toaster...???

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 20-Jun-13 09:33:52

Just logging on for my daily post-school run catch-up...

Best of luck with your scan MoN - fingers firmly crossed for you.

Gosh roofio that is a long day! Definitely put your feet up tomorrow.

Jelly that sounds utterly bonkers. I'm sure toast is on the menu in cafes and canteens up and down the land. Is a toaster significantly more of a fire risk than a panini grill?

Shire - would be very interested to hear how you get on with the NCT sling library. I had a structured baby carrier/sling (like the BabyBjorn ones) with DD but didn't get on with it very well (DD soon felt too heavy and it hurt my back) This time I'd like to try on of those stretchy fabric wrap types but - to a novice - they look awfully complicated to put on.

Just a quick question...is anyone else struggling to sleep on their side? All my "morning" sickness has actually been in the evening/night and, whilst the hellish first 16 weeks of vomiting every night is over, I find lying on my side (especially the left) brings back the nausea. I'm feeling guilty I'm putting the baby at risk but sleeping on back (sort of propped up on 2 pillows) is the only position I don't feel sick in.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 20-Jun-13 09:45:39

Jethro - if you are out there, how's your hayfever getting on? I was really suffering yesterday and my eyes (which aren't usually too bad) are very itchy today. Can't wait for some rain to dampen down all the pollen again.

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 09:46:30

Good luck today MoN hope everything runs smoothly for u!

Ok now this is a little tmi and grosse but I need to ask, is anyone else 'wetting themselves' when they sneeze its happened to me a few times before but this morning I sneezed twice in a row and leaked pee! Seriously I'm only 23+3 I'm gunna need a nappy by 40 weeks at this rate lol

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:04:28

Jelly, that lady is very good isn't she, I love her work. Genimi sun and moon, so a true gemini. Your moon is your inner person if you wish, how you react emotionally to things. Look at your rising sign (this forms your true personality along with your sun sign) then your Venus sign tells how you are/act in relationships and love, these are the main ones really.

No toast?! How bizarre hey.

It's the 20th which is payday so it can only mean one thing....clothes shopping v excited as my wardrobe is so limited at the moment.

Bridget why is it bad to sleep on your back? I l always sleep on my back.

Also tanning on holiday, this sounds really silly but I was thinking last night (I obviously have too much time on my hands) I won't be able to tan my back, backs of legs etc. I'm going to have a brown front and white back! Trivial I know

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:06:29

Good Luck MoN I'm sure all will be well and you'll get you see your little girl again. Fx x

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:09:02

I haven't wet myself Nat but have felt like there was something pressing on my bladder and I had to dash to the toilet. I'm sure it's really common.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 20-Jun-13 10:11:53

Yep Natalie, I'm well and truly in that glamorous club. Unless my badder is empty, when I sneeze I have to make a conscious effort to clench my muscles/cross my legs or without fail I'll leak a bit of wee.

I have started buying tena lights blush and DD is now very used to me having to quickly nip upstairs to change my knickers after a hayfever sneezing attack. Bless her, she even reminds me to cross my legs when she can see a sneeze brewing.

I even started occasionally wetting myself when I was violently throwing up with morning sickness way back in the first trimester. Truly delightful!

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 20-Jun-13 10:18:44

Flyer after the first trimester, as I understand it, you are meant to try and sleep on your left side as your growing uterus presses on some major vein or something when you are on your back.

I think the theory is that lying on your side helps blood flow to the placenta.

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 10:20:38

Same here Natalie, it accompanied a massive sneeze on my way back from work on Monday. I actually found it quite funny for some reason and started laughing. This pregnancy makes me so glamorous and sexy...

your DD sounds so funny Bridget!

Smitten1981 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:29:31

I've been sleeping on my back and my front. I do notice that the baby kicks a lot more if I'm on my back though, maybe he doesn't like it.

funkky Thu 20-Jun-13 10:34:43

ooooh Natalie. My most embarrassing pregnancy issue is the pee. Being doing those Pelvic floor exercises with a vengeance but every time i was sick in first trimester, I literally have to rush to take off all underwear as I feel it coming otherwise I wet myself.

My proudest moments are also the days I successfully take everything off before peeing and puking starts grin.

It happens sometimes with very heavy sneezing but glad the being sick phase is pretty over.

Im also in the tena club! Definitely not alone nat grin

I have a scan to check willows oxygen levels today at 2.10 was in hospital yesterday got her hb but she never shifted, she has today though so hopefully all well

Haylebop12 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:42:30

natalie its happened twice to me blush I also have to make the effort to cross my legs. I think I was just in the wrong position when it happened yesterday!
Congrats on the job sanji

I'm generally a side sleeper but finds back the most comfortable at the moment...

Got the estate agent coming to do their inspection of he house today so tbh I'm
Glad as its given me a kick up the backside to get every room clean and tidy and not just downstairs! Except, my backs gone today. Bending over is a nightmare but I'm
Sure with a good nights sleep ill be fine tomorrow.

Went to bed at 9pm last night (anyone else finding hte heat exhausting?) and slept until 8 this morning. Tossed and turned a fair bit so don't really feel much better for it!

roxvox Thu 20-Jun-13 10:43:55

High five to all those in the Tena club... I am wearing a panty liner every day. Part of the reason for that was that I only own black pants (I am strange like that) and I found that I was struggling to work out if a mark was something to worry about (red) or not, so putting a white liner in means I can see more clearly if there are any problems! Bit ridiculous, but it makes me feel more comfortable knowing that I can check. Definitely feeling a bit 'weaker' down there, so it's a good reassurance for that too!

Flyer my sunbathing intention is to dig a hole in the sand to put bump in so I can tan front and back! I have no holiday plans, but just in case I find myself on a hot beach somewhere that is what I visualise doing smile

As for lying on your back - it supposedly can crush the vena artery or something, which reduces blood flow to your uterus. Lying on your right side is ok, but not as good as lying on your left side which is meant to give the vein the best flow. I read that if you wake up on your back not to worry, but to turn back on to your side.

It looks like doing pelvic floor exercises every day since my early teens has pages off then because I've never had any leakage issues and this is my 5th. I suppose that's an added benefit of needing to have c-sections too. The rest of my body is anything but toned and looks like jelly though.

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 20-Jun-13 11:11:01

Glad I'm not the only one clapham!
I'm always waking up on my back just can't seem to stay on my left. Must dig out my dream genii pillow, maybe that will help.
No knicker wetting here yet but expect I will be soon! Isn't pregnancy great!!

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 11:42:42

Roxvox that made me laugh so much, just envisaging a large hole in the sand and a pregnant lady lying on her front!

In first aid training we were always told if we had an ill pregnant lady to lie her in the recovery position left hand side down, so now I understand why, blood flow. You learn something new everyday.

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 12:15:51

Just enjoyjng a cappuccino in a lovely local cafe before moving on to buy some big pants in M&S. More glamour!

shooting I'm sitting next to a skinny mum with a flat stomach and what looks like a 2-3 months old baby. That's us next year right? :-)

Another relaxing day at home. I actually got signed off for 10 days for stress on Tuesday... had a major meltdown at GP including 10 min of uninterrupted crying. Simply felt I couldn't cope with life so went to see GP out of sheer desperation. She was lovely and assured me it happened quite a bit and perhaps I only needed some breathing space. 2 days of this breathing space and I'm feeling better already. Also ordered 2 books and 2,000 pieces jigsaw puzzle for next week - nothing helps me relax more. Can't wait for them to arrive!

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 12:17:30

flyer, roxvox I will have the same sunbathing problem on holidays. A large hole in the sand it is then!

roxvox Thu 20-Jun-13 12:27:54

Glad it made you laugh Flyer! I do reckon it would work though grin

Sorry to hear you've been having a rough time clapham. That's great that a couple of days rest has helped you to breathe a bit, and nice to think that you've got more time yet and something to keep you entertained as well!

roxvox Thu 20-Jun-13 12:38:00

I have just posted my first bump picture on Facebook at 25 weeks. I still have bump envy of all of you girls who are noticeably pregnant! A new girl started in the office 2 weeks ago, and she only worked out I was pregnant a couple of days ago when someone asked me if I was feeling any kicks yet!

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 12:41:08

Claphammama sorry to hear about stressy time chick. The best thing is to be off work if you feel this way. Do you have an occ health department at work you could be referred to? I have been signed off twice with stress from work in the past and went to occ health and they were so kind and put me on a reduced working roster for 6 months on both occasions. Would reduced hours help you maybe?

Glad you are feeling a little more upbeat though, I hope the weather stays nice down south for you so you can enjoy some sun (I always find the sun puts me in such a better mood)

It's hard when you feel stressed over things, always here with an open ear. X

Shirehobbit Thu 20-Jun-13 12:58:37

Hope the de-stress time helps, Clapham

Good luck falcon and MoN

My baby girl has a hole in her heart. I've been sent up to The Southern General to see a fetal heart specialist. I'll keep you updated.

PseudoBadger Thu 20-Jun-13 13:23:50

Oh MoN sad Are you seeing the specialist today?

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 13:30:26

:-( oh no MoN everything crossed for you. Thinking of you xxx

Just waiting to be seen now. On my own as I sent my sister home with dd. She had my neices graduation ceremony to go to and I didn't want her to miss it.
I've been told it will need surgery and was given the termination talk again but there's no way that's an option at this stage.

BridgetandtheHairyBrigands Thu 20-Jun-13 13:31:43

MoN - Huge unmumsnetty hugs, hope you are bearing up ok. I hope the specialist can give you reassurance and answer your questions.

Wickedgirl Thu 20-Jun-13 13:46:28

MoN.......I hope everything works out for you both x

Sorry to hear that MON hopefully the meeting with specialist is positive, and you are not on your own, we are all with you in spirit xx

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 14:07:36

oh no MoN... hope they won't make you wait long and will reassure you... thinking of you and sending you a big hug xxxx

GTbaby Thu 20-Jun-13 14:15:37

Angel care monitor is on sale £74 on kiddicare. Very good price if your considering it.

MoN I'm sure this is very scary for you. a neighbours son was born with this and he has gone on to be a very healthy young man and just had his 2nd child.

roxvox Thu 20-Jun-13 14:22:34

I hope everything goes well with the specialist MoN, so sorry to hear that your scan wasn't all good news. Got my fingers crossed for you.

It us a serious heart defect and there is poor blood flow to the kings also. They want to check the sample taken at my amnio for a genetic disorder called 22Q as a heart defect can be a feature of that. I don't know too much about it but I get the feeling that they're advising termination if that's the case.
They think if 22Q isn't present it may be treatable but will take a series of operations. I don't think I can cope with this.

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 14:38:06

Oh my goodness MoN do you have someone there with you? I'm so sad for you hun, sending you a huge hug. I really really hope it's not this 22Q and it's something treatable. Xxx

roxvox Thu 20-Jun-13 14:40:14

Sending massive hugs from me too MoN. How soon will they be able to get the results? Really got my fingers crossed supremely tightly that there's no sign of 22Q and that they can do something.

I'm on my own Flyer. Just waiting for the bus home with my face all puffy from crying.
I get the results back tomorrow roxvox. I feel sick.

Flyer747 Thu 20-Jun-13 14:51:34

:-( everything crossed v v tightly for those results. I cannot even begin to think how you are feeling..puffy eyes totally allowed and acceptable at the current moment. Biggest of hugs xx

Soupqueen Thu 20-Jun-13 14:55:30

All my thoughts and best wishes are with you MoN
I can't think what to say but I am thinking of you.

tuckingfits Thu 20-Jun-13 14:58:28

Oh MoN. I am so sorry. You've had a really shitty tough time of it & it's just not fair. Really seriously hoping it's not 22Q & that your Eliana will be perfectly well after a couple of operations. I know that prospect must be horrifyingly daunting,but Glasgow has such excellent heart specialists/Yorkhill etc.

Thinking of you. Mentally sending you big full body squeezes. I truly hope that there is no genetic condition to be found.xxxx

Umlauf Thu 20-Jun-13 15:00:26

Oh my god mon I'm so sorry to read your updates. She has been a little fighter so far defying odds and I hope so much the specialist has good news for you. Is your DH there with you? You have been amazingly strong the whole way through and you will cope. I'm thinking of you and your family xxx

legallyblond Thu 20-Jun-13 15:08:16

I am so sorry MoN. This is a post 20 week scan isn't it? Didn't they see it at all at 20 weeks? Thinking of you x x

Thankyou everyone. 23 wks today. They couldn't get a clear view of the heart at the last scan but they didn't seem too concerned. I thought today was just them being cautious.
I need to get myself together before I go and collect Linah from my sister's and go home to the others.

notsoold Thu 20-Jun-13 15:34:15

MoN thinkung of you!!! So sorry!

legallyblond Thu 20-Jun-13 15:41:20

I've been googling 22q (obviously it might not be that and if it is, will be getting much more knowledgable advice than google). It seems its a spectrum disorder, so there is always the hope of being at the less severe end if it is that. I guess try not to worry until you have to worry... If it is a hole in the heart only, there is a lot of hope. A cousin, now 4, had 5 ops to fix hers and throughout was full of beans and bubbly! She had (now all fixed) blue finger tips and lips, but that seemed to be it!

claphammama Thu 20-Jun-13 15:44:12

I don't even know what to say MoN... just that I'm thinking of you and hope tomorrow will bring better news. Tomorrow can't arrive fast enough for all of us now xxxxx

cazboldy Thu 20-Jun-13 15:55:44

Oh MoN so so sad to read this....... really don't know what else to say, except that I'll be thinking of you, and have my fingers very tightly crossed for you xxxxx

Re wetting yourself....... I honestly have never had this happen - even after 5 normal births! I can go on a trampoline, run etc with no probs...... I think it might be because of horse riding.

I really must post a bump pic too, as mine is actually still quite neat! I thought with number 6 it would just give up and all hang out, but I guess that could be due to riding too smile

On the down side in some clothes I just look a bit on the chubby side hmm

Shirehobbit Thu 20-Jun-13 16:19:47

Massive hugs, MoN and everything crossed for some positive news tomorrow xx

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 16:30:37

So so so sorry to hear your sad news MoN hopefully it is the less serious of the two situations. Sending lots of virtual love xxxx

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:43:31

thinking of you, baby and all your family Monthanks

Smitten1981 Thu 20-Jun-13 16:45:42

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow MoN, best of luck.

HotSoupDumpling Thu 20-Jun-13 17:03:16

MON, fingers crossed for you. Well be thinking of you tomorrow.

MoN, so sorry you didn't get the all clear today and that you are not able to fully relax and enjoy your pregnancy as we all hoped.

I don't know if it is at all helpful, but my very fit and healthy friend had a stroke in his 20s recently due to a previously unknown about hole in the heart that needed repairing after the stroke. He is now fully recovered. It is good in a way that they have found your baby's hoke now so they can fix it early.

We also asked my friend why they don't scan for it at the anomaly scan if it can cause such problems, and he was told by his dr that many babies have holes in their hearts in the womb that sort themselves out before birth or close on their own as babies.

When will you get the next update about the 22Q?

You and your family have been so strong so far, I have no doubt that you will be able to cope with this latest piece of news.

pinkbuttons Thu 20-Jun-13 18:09:06

Im so sorry to hear everything didnt go to plan today MoN just wanted to pop on and send you more virtual hugs.
I will be keeping my fingers crossed for your resukts tomorrow and thinking of you and all of your family.
lots of love x

Haylebop12 Thu 20-Jun-13 18:26:21

More hugs from the midlands MoN I really am hoping and praying for the best. You have had to deal with so much already. Did they say that's its what may have caused the excess fluid at your 12 weeks scan?

Will definitely be thinking of you tomorrow.

JethroTull Thu 20-Jun-13 18:44:19

Thinking of you MoN & hoping for the best with tomorrow's results.

rubytwosday Thu 20-Jun-13 18:57:58

I am so sorry you are having to go through this MoN. Praying for you and your baby girl.

JellyCurls Thu 20-Jun-13 19:27:44

MoN my heart is truly breaking for you, hearing of problems during pregnancy is the worst thing in the world.

I have no advice to give you other than stay strong. Your little girl is a fighter and has proved the medical world wrong so far.. When you had amnio, did they not do a full chromosomal analysis?

Sending you the biggest hug that I can over the Internet and hope and pray you get good news tomorrow.

juniper9 Thu 20-Jun-13 19:38:12

I've only read the first page, so apologies if someone has said this, but re teachers and maternity leave...

We get 39 weeks' paid, so if you start your leave by 7 weeks into the new term, then the paid period will end just before the summer holiday. Then you need to go back for a day or two, and you'll get the holiday pay too. So really 45 weeks' leave.

They wanted me to go to hospital tomorrow with Dp at 3.30 to discuss the results with the cardiologist but he can't get the time off work. They've let him take the morning off so he can take dd into nursery while I laze around feeling sorry for myself.
Jelly They said they don't routinely test for 22Q. I'm going to have a hard time keeping myself busy whilst waiting for the results.
My friend phoned me and revealed her little bit who's just turned one has a hole in his heart but they haven't told anyone. I don't know how much more complicated the small pulmonary artery makes things. I've been told the first operation will be performed at around 3 days old.

Big hugs MoN so sorry you are going through this. As has already been said, your little girl is already a fighter and I hope that the news tomorrow is that it's treatable and she can go on to live a healthy happy life. It's ridiculous that your DP can't get time off for this, is there anyone else that can go with you? flowers

Shootingstarsandcomets Thu 20-Jun-13 20:15:36

Oh mon, I am so sorry to hear your baby girl has a hole in her heart. Fingers crossed for you. We are here for you whatever the outcome.
clapham hee hee! Yes that's us by Christmas back in size 8 super sexy outfits and heels and generally wowing the world with our glam!
Baby bump got his/her first gift today. A lovely swaddle, I loved swaddling ds when he was a newborn he looked practically edible.

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 20:16:47

MoN am I wrong for thinking u would think they would screen your amnio sample for everything they possibly could have seen as your NT measurements were way above the scale. I tried googling about 22q but it all seemed a bit confusing what exactly does the syndrome entail?

MoN I agree, awful that your DP isn't being given time off work for this. He cant be feeling much up to work either. I will be away over the weekend but will be thinking of you and keeping my fingers firmly crossed. Nice to know you have a RL friend you can talk to who has been in a similar situation. Your little bean is strong and a fighter, an operation will be horrible but she won't even remember it.

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 20:18:06

I second that shooting I always swaddled dd too. I keep debating whether to buy a swaddled blanket for bump or save my money until he is born to see if he actually likes being swaddled lol. Am I right in thinking generally babies do like it? Especially if u do it from the word go kind of thing

He's only been in his post a couple of weeks. He's a support worker for people with mental health issues and it involves a lot of home visits that nobody else can cover.
The hospital said if Dp can't come they will just speak to me over the phone tomorrow. I've got another scan on the 25th.

favellio Thu 20-Jun-13 20:27:14

Thinking of you MoN thanksthanksthanksenvy

RE: peeing your pants.......yep, I had a coughing fit in Tesco fruit and veg section, wearing grey leggings and leaked!!! Needless to say i'll be wearing liners and black all the time now lol

MrsO27 Thu 20-Jun-13 20:39:42

Thinking of you mon and fingers crossed for tomorrow.

roofio87 Thu 20-Jun-13 20:40:15

excuse me if I sound stupid, but what exactly is swaddeling a baby? and what are the benefits of it?
sorry your dp can't be there Mon I bet he feels rubbish about it x

Swaddrling is just wrapping in a shawl roofio . It makes the baby eel enclosed and secure just like in the womb and stop their limbs jerking in their sleep and waking them.

He's threatening to walk out if they create problems with all the time off he'll need when the baby arrives. I imagine she'll be in hospital for quite some time after she's born.

They must have a compassionate leave policy? Will he be entitled to paternity leave or is it like mat leave that you have to have been there a certain time?

I think that there are so many possible conditions that the sample just wouldn't be big enough to screen for everything Natalie. I skim read one article on 22Q but don't want to scare myself by reading too much.
Something to do with a chromosomal defect. 200 possible symptoms including heart defects, kidney problems,hearing difficulties, personality disorders and autism. Facial deformities are common too.

Same as mater ity leave Orange but they've agreed to discuss it with him. At this rate he'll be needing the help of the association he works for.

He's only on a 6 month contract so maybe that's why they're reluctant to help.

Sanjifair Thu 20-Jun-13 21:05:19

Oh mon I am so sorry to hear your news. After all you have gone through already. Fingers crossed for you, and more virtual hugs.

Still you would hope human decency would prevail. He could always go off sick... stress and depression not unlikely in those circumstances I imagine and they should be aware of that.

Right I must get off the Internet and finish my reports.

Well done for staying away from Dr Google, you have greater willpower than me!

He works for the Scottish Association for Mental Health, so yes you would expect they of all people would understand he'd need time off given the circumstances.His line manager was quite understanding but not all decisions are down to her.

Shirehobbit Thu 20-Jun-13 22:13:20

MoN flowers

Just back from the NCT meeting - DH and I were so bemused and obvious newbies!! It's made it all a bit more real for us.
The sling library people were awesome. This particular one has only just been set up, so they're really just sorting themselves out. But they are holding weekly social meets to try slings as well as have a coffee/cake. They've taken my details and are actually going to do some research on my behalf to see if they can help me with any issues I might have with my hypermobility/dodgy back.

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 22:39:56

I've just spent the last hour consoling dd whilst dh emptied her bed

Natalieand Thu 20-Jun-13 22:40:46

I've just spent the last hour consoling dd whilst dh emptied her bed of sick now everytime I get in bed she shouts she's guna be sick. Then when I get there its a false alarm. If there is a god up there please let us all get some sleep tonight lol

ananikifo Thu 20-Jun-13 23:12:57

MoN I'm so sorry to hear the results of your scan. I hope the genetic test is negative and her condition is as mild as possible.

I've been off MN for the last few weeks. I've read somewhere that the most stressful events in life are having a baby, starting a job, and moving house. Well I'm here, my new job starts 1 July, and after a few weeks of believing our first house purchase is likely to fall through DH and I have scrambled to find a short-term lease and get everything ready to leave our current apartment this weekend. We'll be staying further fr

ananikifo Thu 20-Jun-13 23:19:00

Sorry posted too early

We'll be staying further from my work likely making my commute and hour and a half or more. At least there's hope we'll get to buy this house after all. I'm dying to buy baby things but the extra expenses with this move and the fact we have to pack and m

I've been extremely stressed and can feel the tension in my body but so far baby Joshua seems ok. I panicked last Friday (21+3) when I didn't feel him move but the midwife easily found his hb and if course he kicked as soon as she put cold gel on my belly. She said they get tons of women in at 24 weeks for this reason bc amniotic fluid increases and that can make you feel baby less.

ananikifo Thu 20-Jun-13 23:20:16

Ugh got cut off again. Just wanted to say umlauf I have so much sympathy for you in your situation and would help m

ananikifo Thu 20-Jun-13 23:21:12

Move you if I could!

(Going back to the MN app as obviously the mobile site is not for me)

Oh MoN, sending you all best wishes and good luck for tomorrow. And that's ridiculous they won't let your hb attend such an important medical appointment! What would they do if he were sick? The drs have scheduled it in at short notice because it's obviously urgent and serious?! Hmm.

Smitten1981 Thu 20-Jun-13 23:59:28

Urgh, waiting for DH to call me to pick him up from the station. He went to London for a meeting at 1pm and still hasn't told me when he's coming back. I'm so tired. hmm

JellyCurls Fri 21-Jun-13 06:51:48

Good luck today MoN will be thinking of you and sending all my positive thoughts your way x

Checking in to wish you luck today MoN.

Oh dear Ananikifo, sorry to hear you are having such a stressful time.
I dreamt I was in hospital learning how not to be stressed. The dream nurses advice was buy a bug to stroke or do dances with cats. hmm going slightly mad...

My baby has been really going for it inside me yesterday and this morning. I have been stressed with exams at school and trying to write reports to the deadline late last night (failed - more to squeeze in at lunch time - decided I can't do past midnight anymore) I think it gets worked up by the adrenaline. So wriggly I could hardly concentrate and it woke me up this morning. Hopefully it can have a nice rest as we are off to a wedding in Anglesey this weekend. Although VERY pleased that I can feel it moving and don't want that to stop obviously!

pinkbuttons Fri 21-Jun-13 07:09:57

Thinking of you today MoN and agree with others its ridiculous that they wont let your DH come to appt.
ana also wanted to send you hugs, I have just left work as were moving this weekend too, have been so greatful for the time off as moving is so bloody stressful and Im exhausted so you have my complete respect for managing both. fingers crossed that the house sale comes through and your settled in your new house before baby arrives smile
one more night to clean the entire house and DS finished nursery yesterday, has suddebly hit me that Im going to have to entertain a very energetic 2 year old all day everyday confused
Hope your DH wasnt much later smitten!

juniper9 Fri 21-Jun-13 07:20:37

Wishing you luck today MoM. Hope you get the good news you deserve from the cardiologist. flowers