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December 2013 - part 3

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Holly1977 Wed 05-Jun-13 14:06:11


Starting yet another thread as us chatterboxes have filled up 2 already!

Jucy, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Big hugs, wish there was something more I could say. flowers

Frouby, if you're feeling crap just fuck the housework off, I do! It'll keep.

I'm scared and excited in equal measures about the scan on Friday. Looking forward to seeing bean and being able to get on with things. But obviously scared of getting bad news like Jucy... 2 days, 1 hour and 50 minutes to go!

My friend has offered to be a birthing partner too. I may well take her up on it, I suspect she'll be more help than OH. And as I'm planning on having a home water birth and OH has already invited his bloody mum (!) think it'll be good to have a friend there. I'm not private at all, have zero issues with people seeing me naked (as my neighbours will tell you) and she's seen me throw up enough times from our party days (though never shit myself to be fair) that I'm not too fussed about that.

TakingTheStairs Wed 05-Jun-13 14:50:31

Juicy, so sorry to hear your news. You must have gotten an awful shock. Take care of yourself.

Holly Your OH has asked your MIL to the birth. Wow!

Supersesame Wed 05-Jun-13 14:57:21

Hi, I'd like to join please! I'm 12 weeks today and like Holly, have scan on Friday. Although I have kind of cheated and have had 4 scans already!
At 6, 8, 9 and 10 weeks! My GP has just got an ultrasound machine and is using me as a guinea pig. Its fab free and very reassuring.
Althouh I'm still nervous about the official hospital scan on Friday.
Have had 2 mcs before this pregnancy so I'm hoping that I can get to the 2nd trimester next week.
My main complaint is horrible acid reflux. Gaviscon is my friend by it seems to appear if I haven't eaten for an hour. Which means I'm eating a lot to make it go away and feeling heavier already.

FluffyDucky Wed 05-Jun-13 15:12:35

Jucy my thoughts are with you, I hope you are letting yourself grieve. Take care of yourself xxx

Holly1977 Wed 05-Jun-13 15:17:54

Err yeah, it's a bit mad really isn't it? My MIL is lovely, like her more than my own mum if I'm being brutally honest. But in hindsight, maybe not...!

Welcome Supersesame and aren't you lucky to have had so many scans! Sorry to hear about your mcs and reflux. I'm feeling fatter heavier too sad

TwickyWoo Wed 05-Jun-13 15:47:18

Hi - great to see so many others expecting at the end of this year! I'm expecting my first (EDD 23/12/13). It wasn't planned, but me and the OH are over the moon. I had a dating scan at around 7 weeks as I had no idea on dates at all :S so I should be around 11+2 now. I'm waiting to be booked in for my 12 week scan and am excited and nervous in equal measures... each milestone at a time I guess!

Reading the boards has been a real eye opener, but also a really nice experience to join in with everyone and their journeys!

It is nice to meet you all waves

Featherbag Wed 05-Jun-13 16:29:34

Juicy I'm so sorry hmm

I'm ill, sore throat, temp, cough, think I'm getting an upper respiratory tract infection. Have still been to the gym today though and then for a long walk, ending at the park to tire DS out as I'm on a long shift tomorrow and NEED him to sleep! Reckon if I ignore illness it'll go away, it has to, I just don't have time to be ill! This month and next are the qualifying months that payroll will use to calculate my average wage for mat pay, so I've been doing as much in the way of overtime and weekends as I can. So not only do I not have time to be ill, I definitely can't afford it!

Got my 20 week scan appointment through, 18th July, can't wait!!

2Labradors Wed 05-Jun-13 16:51:30

jucy I'm so sorry and my thoughts are with you

kyz1981 Wed 05-Jun-13 17:05:23

jucy I am so so sorry to hear your sad news- please take care.xx

I had my scan a few weeks ago and they changed my EDD from 1st Dec to 28th Nov - but I'm going to hang around here if that's ok - Baby seemed so big compared to my memories of DS/DD- also had a cervical scan for some unknown reason but all was fine.

I am being monitored due to the fact my DS was born on the 7th centile so will have growth scans- I had no idea he was considered small - only found out when I had my scan - so that was a shock and means plenty of appointments after 28 weeks.

My MS has finally gone and I have been feeling much much better - it only seemed to get better at around 14 weeks and not the promised 12.

Hope all the scans go well this week xx

violetbean Wed 05-Jun-13 18:15:10

Jucy, so sorry, thinking of you. Hope you have lots of RL support as well as the amazing people of MN. Hand-holding. xx

Gooseysgirl Wed 05-Jun-13 18:56:26

Marking place.

So sorry Jucy to read of your losssad

Sorry to hear your news Jucy thanks

Hope everyone is ok, time is going so slowly, 15 weeks today, feels like I've been pregnant for eternity! Still nearly 6 months to go!

Is anyone else suffering from backache? Had it last time but only right near the end!

LadyMedea Wed 05-Jun-13 19:54:58

Marking place

Jucymyname Wed 05-Jun-13 20:06:35

Thank you everyone for kind words. I'm a bit numb but ok. sad

Take care of yourselves x

yogafan Wed 05-Jun-13 21:14:16

Hugs for you jucy - take good care. So sorry this has happened, so unfair. X

weechops Wed 05-Jun-13 21:30:26

Ah there you all are smile forgot to say I got my 20 week scan date from the midwife today. It's Friday the 19th July and ill be 19+4 seems like ages away! But it's only 5 days after we come home from holiday, so hopefully that'll perk me up when I'm unpacking smile

MildredH Wed 05-Jun-13 22:52:21

Aaaha.. Now I get it! Tried to post three times on old thread and kept "disappearing".. Then realised was because had got to 1000 posts!

Jucy- I'm really sad to hear your news. I hope you're doing ok. It's tough. Give yourself time to get over this. The threads on mc are helpful if you feel like looking in terms of what to expect. thanks

Holly- completely get you. Esp trying to find stuff to wear. I get my clothes ready the night before- just looked for something for tomorrow.. NOTHING FITS!! FFS I'm only 14+4 and shouldn't be in mat clothes yet. It's really frustrating. Thought I'd done ok with an outfit today but at lunchtime caught sight of myself in full length mirrors sad not a great look!

Going to have a look online for some looser dresses for work!

Hope everyone well.. X

froubylou Thu 06-Jun-13 07:26:44

Here you all are. Lost you all for a minute.

Jucy I posted last night on the other thread but obviously its gone. I am so, so sorry to hear your news. Please be kind to yourself and your DP. Biggest, biggest hugs.

Holly I did fuck the housework right off lol. Did my paperwork, had some soup and watched another episode of One Born Every Minute on the Iplayer thing instead lol. So I have it to do today instead. Sigh.

Still Im stuck for doing anything else thats not within walking distance of home. Car went for its MOT on saturday and still there. Bill so far is £400 and there is an oil leak to find and mend still. FFS, thats my stash of cash wiped out.

Does anyone else find that they have no patience with friends at the min? Some of the schoolgate mums who I usually chat to are getting right on my nerves at the min. They irratated me immensley yesterday for no other reason that talking about Florida and holidays. Now we love our hols and usually go away at least twice, sometimes 3 times a year. We love our beach hols and tenerife is one of our regular destinations. We shop around and book late (OH self employed so a bit flexible on dates) and spend between £600-£1000 for the 3 of us and that could be either S/C or AI.

Now these mums that were discussing Florida all have 2 or 3 kids each. All the mums work at least 3 days a week and instead of taking a holiday each year or even 2, they all go to florida every couple of years.

Now I'd like to take DD at some point just so she's been. But for me I'd rather her have a couple of hols each year that 1 every few years and once you have been somewhere like that I would imagine you can tick it off the list.

Each time they go you are talking about 4k. It just seems a huge waste of money to me and I think the kids are missing out by not having beach holidays as well? For what it costs to do florida they could have 3 nice holidays for the same money?

Or is just me being a hormonal bitch lol.

I tried a pair of leggings on yesterday. Size 12's that I usually end up pulling up all day. Fecking things didn't fit. I looked like a sausage in a skin that someone had squeezed in the middle pmsl.

So thats me managing with 2 pairs of jeggings and various tracky bottoms that I usually wear for the stables. Oh, and a pair of OH's combat shorts with a hair bobblehrough the button.

Still don't think I am fat enough for maternity clothes though. But don't want to keep buying the next size up as the arse is starting to look baggy and at the rate I'm growing I won't be in them long enough. Dunno what to do. Just live in PJ's til I'm really fat I think lol.

PistachioTruffle Thu 06-Jun-13 08:35:56

I'm so sorry jucy flowers

I tried to post on the last thread too, and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work.

Frouby, I think you might be a tiny bit hormonal, yes grin I find myself in moods where everything/everyone is really irritating, even stupid things that normally wouldn't bother me! I'm putting it down to hormones, rather than me being a grumpy cow haha.
A holiday just about anywhere sounds amazing at the moment, there won't be any for a good couple of years unfortunely due to finances. I just want to feel the sun on my skin!

Does anyone else feel reluctant to tell people? Most of our immediate family know, but the rest I feel a bit strange about telling. I'm not sure why, but I just feel a little uncomfortable ringing them and saying 'I'm pregnant'. It's odd.

QueenofWhispers Thu 06-Jun-13 09:16:10

Guys! i started another thread by accident--when I didn't see this one. Got to delete that one.


Hey everyone. I'm sorry to hear your sad news juicy.

I've just had a barney with dh, he's such a dick sometimes nothing whatsoever to do with my hormonal unreasonableness oh no so cross. My sickness seems to have cleared up a bit thankfully. Still taking medication but might call doc and see if I should start to cut down a bit. Can eat a bit more normally which is nice.
Have also ordered some maternity clothes for summer wear as have no shorts that fit me and only one dress. Also some tops as most of mine are too tight now. Eek!

Holly1977 Thu 06-Jun-13 10:03:51

Mildred, I'm in mat clothes and am only 12 weeks tomorrow! I've finally found some under bump mat jeans, they're amazing. Just as comfy as mat leggings and not nearly as unattractive! I always thought you could just wear baggy clothes or a size up when you're pg but obviously not. Now I've accepted it and started wearing proper mat clothes I feel much better. They're tailored differently I think. It's just depressing and PISSING ME OFF how many clothes I'm having to put in my "too fat for these now" bag(s) on a daily basis. I can just see by the end having like 3 things to wear on a rotating basis. V worried that knickers are getting too tight too. I had taken to being mostly naked at home but I've got a friend staying for a couple of days (he's had a barney with his wife, don't know details yet) so am having to wear fucking clothes! angry

I think you may be a bit teensy tiny bit hormonal yes Frouby! (ducks for cover). Though that doesn't mean those women aren't massive bitches and that you're not right about everything. Pg women are right about everything, always. End of. Especially when they're hungry. I think my partner is starting to get this now.

Yeah I'm kind of wondering about that Pistachio. We've told most people who matter already (and a few who don't) and I've been wondering whether with the remaining people if I should ring them individually and tell them before we put the scan picture on Facebook or whether that seems a bit ego centric. On the one hand I am looking forward to everyone knowing but I also feel a bit weird about it becoming public knowledge cos I get the feeling once it is, I'll be like public property. I haven't had too many people giving me advice and telling me what to do yet but I'm sure that will change.

Got steroid nasal spray and eye drops from doc today, along with physio referral. Once I'd got through the initial 20 sneezes that always go with nasal spray, I feel better now. Swam 40 lengths last night (felt like wonder woman!) and am cycling home tonight. Maybe the mythical 2nd trimester is here...

Anyone else see that thing from the royal college of obst... bla bla.. and just think "what a load of total and utter fucking bollocks" ?!! I spent most of Sunday spraying my hedge with insecticide due to a massive and weird caterpillar infestation. Luckily I don't do a right lot of cleaning so that's alright. Frouby, you'd be amazed how long you can get away with NOT doing house work you know. Try it! wink

froubylou Thu 06-Jun-13 10:27:04

Am trying it this morning Holly lol.

Its amazing how little you can achieve just by replying to (not very) important worky emails, eating jam on toast and scouring around the internet for suitable unmaternity fashion ideas. So far I can see smocks and wrap around tops and maxi dresses are perhaps suitable for some but won't suit me. I spend most of my time in very casual wear as I work from home and play with ponies so anything slightly formal makes me feel as though I should a) schedule a meeting with someone and b) dig out my make up bag which is somewhere in DD's room having being 'borrowed' about 3 weeks ago.

I am being a bitch arent I lol. Its just schoolgate politics. They all seem to think tenerife and greece and majorca are for plebs and fecking florida is the place to go. I hate rides as does OH, I can't think of anything worse on holiday than travelling to different theme parks and queueing for this, that and the next thing and being miles away from a beach. For me holiday is about sunbathing, relaxing and getting mildly pissed every night. Waking up late and staying up even later and having a siesta in the afternoon if you fancy it. DD loves her holidays too and although every kid wants to go to bloody disneyland she understands that if we did that 1 year we wouldn't be going on a 'proper' holiday the year after either. She wants beach holdiays too lol. We'll compromise I think when this bean is old enough and do Eurodisney.

I have a suitcase on top of the wardrobe I keep chucking things in that don't fit. More in that than in my drawers and TBH most of whats in drawers and wardrobe doesnt fit and I won't wear. Just can't bring myself to store them all yet incase this belly is just bloat and will miraculously disappear.

mumoftwoboysS Thu 06-Jun-13 10:44:28

Just found part 3- was wondering where it was!

Well bleeding stopped -only had it for one day in the end. I phoned mw, she said to take it easy?? Then texted her and said I wanted my scan moved fwd a week for peace of mind, she told me to call hosptial but said they may not move it without a doctors authorisation. She was right. The lady I spoke to was downright rude (despite me saying I was worried and there was blood) and said my scan could NOT be moved. Its not like its my body or anything, and I have any say in the matter??!! Sooo, I went to my doctor, she was nice and sympathetic but said the hospital wouldn't move my scan for a small amount of blood. Seems you need to be bleeding bucket loads before they feel it necessary to do anything around here! As a compromise she said I could have a blood test to check HCG levels to make sure baby is progressing ok. I agreed as I thought it'd be better than nothing (and hopefully will rule out a mmc and put my mind at rest a bit)

So blood test today, and results tomorrow. So fucked off that I can't get my scan moved. My friend had EXACTLY the same thing and got a scan within 48 hours.

Jucy so sorry to hear your news. xx don't know what else to say really but hope you're ok.

Holly1977 Thu 06-Jun-13 11:08:20

I've figured it all out. When you don't feel like doing anything, don't. Sit on your arse, eat chocolate, read, sleep and fuck the housework off. When you do feel like doing stuff and have some energy (like today in my case) make the best of it cos it won't last! smile

You're not being a bitch at all. And if you are, so what. A good bitch is good for the soul. And I totally agree. Holidays are for sunbathing, sleeping, eating, drinking, eating, reading, eating, drinking, eating, sleeping, shagging, eating, drinking etc (can you spot a theme?!) Bitch colleague always bangs on about how she simply can't be inactive and always had to "do stuff" on holiday. She has property in Chamonix (bitch!) and spends the whole time doing house work, DIY, going for long walks, skiing, doing more house work and pussy whipping her husband. She's horrified when I tell her I spent 2 weeks doing absolutely fuck all. Difference being of course I'm not mental (...!) like her and can sit quietly without having to keep busy all the time.

yeah, I was going to put stuff in a suitcase but am still holding out the vain hope I might go on holiday this year. Plus if I clear too much stuff out of my wardrobe, OH will think that entitles him to half which it bloody well doesn't. I've tried to explain. I'm a girl, I have more clothes, you don't get half. And no I'm definitely not being petty, territorial or hormonal! I've lived on my own for a couple of years now, I'm finding it hard to share my space. Must remind myself how lonely I was sometimes before and that I'd better get used to it cos there'll be 3 of us soon. OH has got nocturnal hyper hidrosis though which is awful. Especially with my new super smell, the sheets are wringing wet sometimes and stink. And I've only got 2 sets and no washing machine! I've hung the duvet on the line today and Febreezed the rest of the bed to within an inch of its life.

That's rubbish, sorry to hear that mumof2. I know this won't make you feel any better but statistically it's probably fine and the bleeding probably doesn't mean anything sinister. I don't see why they couldn't move your scan forward a bit. Well I do, cost saving exercise. Bastards. Fingers crossed for the blood test, let us know the results asap xx

mumoftwoboysS Thu 06-Jun-13 11:16:11

Oh and forgot to say -told my mum and she pretty much said it was my fault for doing too much! I've been cycling - only every other weekend with the family and she reckons thats too much! I told her that these days exercise is encouraged during pregnancy as long as its moderate. She didn't get that at all. And MW saying i might have 'over done' it is making me feel like I've put this on myself!!?

I thought exercise during pregnancy promotes a healthier pregnancy and birth or am I wrong??

we're going on holiday to france in a few weeks and will be doing a bit of cycling (just leisurely cycles along cycle paths to some chateaus) and she said combined with the heat, it could be detrimental to me and my baby! She was pregnant overseas with my brother and it was so hot she sad so many women didn't go to full term because of the heat. Now I'm feeling really negative about it all....

mumoftwoboysS Thu 06-Jun-13 11:18:50

I mean 'brought this on myself'

Holly1977 Thu 06-Jun-13 11:48:58

That's bollocks, you haven't brought it on yourself at all or done too much. It's not like you've been running marathons ffs. Yes exercise in pg is a good thing. Of course you need to be careful about overheating, especially when exercising in hot weather but that's always the case pg or not. If you're going to go cycling, do it first thing when it's cool, take lots of water, take it easy, you'll be fine. I cycled 12 miles twice in a week with no ill effects so I think every other weekend is fine. Don't listen to those negative nellies!

froubylou Thu 06-Jun-13 11:57:19

Mumof2, take no notice of you ma. She probably means well but you will know yourself if you do too much. Our bodies are better than we think at telling us off. When I was last pg I had a very, very demanding physical job and tried to keep going as normal. Was fine most of the time but occasionally (usually about once a month) it just said 'no, not today' and I literally couldn't have gotten out of bed if I had tried.

I was probably doing too much with hindsight and I should have listened to my body earlier but my point is you will only do as much as you feel you can. My garden is a mess this year. DP done his best but its not really his domain and it would take about a week of full days to sort it out. Cant find the energy. And my kitchen is screaming out for redecorating. Cant be arsed with that either lol. So thats my bodies way of telling me 'no, not now'. OR I'm just being lazy and blaming PGy. Either way it can all wait.

Done my upstairs cleaning. Holly you will need a washing machine love when the bebo comes lol. And I know what you mean about learning to share space. I lived on my own from being 19 until I met DP about 7 years ago. DD1 is from a brief and bizarre relationship with a frog and I lived with her for 2 years before DP came on the scene.

He also invaded my wardrobe as he gradually (intruded) moved in. I lost the plot 1 day and bagged all his stuff up by the door. When he came home he was a bit puzzled until I pointed out that he didn't actually,officially live here. And if he wanted wardrobe/drawer space and a TV in every room he could bloody well go and buy new furniture and redecorate the bedroom.

He did to give him his dues.

But I still find it hard sometimes. I like it when he is at work. He can't make a mess/need feeding/make a mess/bug me/make a mess/want to have TV on in day (pet hate until recently)/make a mess.

Best crack on with housework.

Holly1977 Thu 06-Jun-13 12:22:53

I know Frouby. I have got a washing machine, it's just that the room it goes in has no floor at the moment! I picked a right time to start a major DIY project didn't I?! The floor's getting started this weekend so we'll see. Am probably going to get a tumble dryer too, everyone says I'll need one once bean arrives.

It's difficult with OH cos he doesn't officially live there, doesn't pay any board and rarely contributes towards groceries. He treats it like his place when it suits him (remote control is "his", when football's on etc) but when it doesn't (when cleaning needs doing, builders need paying) it's MY house. So every now and again I get really territorial and pissed off when he wants half my fecking wardrobe when he doesn't pay a bean or do much around the place. The fact I earn a lot more than him doesn't help this whole dynamic, and the fact that I own the house (well the mortgage deeds anyway, actually in negative equity!) I told him last week that when he moves in properly he needs to go out at least once a week and give me some space!

Argh, men are so annoying! He told me he'd arranged to get off work early tomorrow so we could get to the scan on time. He's just told me that he can't and he's leaving at normal time. Which means there's no way we'll be there on time and I'll be even more stressed about it than I already am. I hate rushing for stuff, especially when the stakes are high. Then he bloody hung up on me for "having a go" at him about it. Naturally I've just left him a long shouty vm and told him that I'm leaving for the hospital on time and if he's not at mine by then tough. God, I've made the decision to take the afternoon off so I can take my time and not rush there and now he's done this, what a fecking idiot!

13loki Thu 06-Jun-13 17:36:59

Afternoon. It's national day here, so à public holiday, and because it's à Thursday, we get Friday off, too! Warm and sunny, so we walked into town and took part in some festivities. Beds delivered to the new house tomorrow, so spending the afternoon there, probably having a BBQ. 2 days of not being able to keep food down (I thought I'd actually skipped the worst of morning sickness this time) have left me tired and dizzy. Swimming tomorrow, hopefully getting a membership so I can do aqua aerobics open Tuesdays (and get work to pay for it)

AbiElizabeth Thu 06-Jun-13 18:21:59

Hello all. Just had my 12 week scan and seen Peanut for the very first time. Everything is fine and it was magical.

I'm really sorry for everyone who has had bad news/having a rough time.

FluffyDucky Thu 06-Jun-13 19:27:15

Hi Abi, that is lovely! Its so nice seeming it for the first time smile

Holly, you are SO right about knickers! I was only saying to husband yesterday mine are getting tight and uncomfy. Not sure if I see the point of mat pants (yet, maybe) may just get a size up. I wear hipster/shorts style anyway so luckily dont get in a the way of the bump fat

This weather is so nice but by 'eck my feet are sore and swollen today! I had my risk assessment at work today so I've asked if I can sit on the tills for a while each afternoon to help

harry78 Thu 06-Jun-13 19:53:55

Hi all I had my scan today and little boo was wriggling, kicking and waving away! So much so that they couldnt take the nuchal measurements sadly. They saw a nasal bone though and have referred me for a quad test. Does anyone have experience of one of those?

LadyMedea Thu 06-Jun-13 20:37:50

Ok I've cracked and ordered some maternity tops (and a sundress) from H&M and New Look. I just don't have enough longer tops to keep me going while bump catches up with boobs and ordering the size bigger considering how much bigger boobs are just resulted in tents. We shall see if they fit and are well made enough to be worth keeping when they turn up. I do like both shops, but I don't like clothes that fall apart on the first wash. These may only have to last a few months but still....

Anybody else feel slightly odd spending money on things that will last such a short time? I'm lucky and most of my work clothes are jersey dresses so will last a bit.... dreading the day when those don't fit.

PistachioTruffle Thu 06-Jun-13 21:38:23

Lady, I know what you mean, and I'd been trying to hold out until after the scan to buy anything. I've just ordered two pairs of jeggings from mothercare, they have buy one get one half price on all clothes until, the 13th of June. I felt so frumpy and uncomfortable in my current jeans I had to do something!

Does anyone know if it Is the done thing now to ask couples if their baby was planned or a surprise? We haven't finished telling people yet, but quite a few have asked this! I think it's a little rude to be honest, and wouldn't dream of asking, but I'm not sure if I'm being oversensitive. Has anyone else had it?

If anyone asked me that id be surprised pistachio. That's no one else's business!

mumoftwoboysS Fri 07-Jun-13 08:48:18

Never heard of a quad test sorry Harry Why didn't they just rebook you to do the nuchal test again?

Yeah I don't like buying clothes for such a short time but as I've had 2 before I've got a big bag of maternity clothes that I got down from the loft so should be sorted- apart from a few pairs of shorts I'll be needing as the waistline on my current shorts are not forgiving at all!

I have bought a few bits off ebay in the past (second hand) and found it a good way to buy tho was a bit disappointed by one dress as it was so washed/worn out. I'm going to put my stuff on ebay after this too as maternity clothes always sell well.

I have found H&M good for value for money and a bit better quality than New Look. Next good quality too but a bit more pricey.

Pistachio I find this an awkward question to answer and wish people didn't ask as it is none of their business!! But for some reason -esp with a third, I think they assume it must have been an accident- almost like -who would want another one?? strange....

waiting for my HCG results today....hoping they mean all is ok. One person on Mumsnet said that one blood test for HCG levels doesn't tell you anything as you have to do two to see if it's dropping or not. Bit annoyed as I'm putting my trust in the doc and wanted reassurance, now I'm not sure if the test will be telling me anything or not! Oh well, I have nothing else to go on....

NomDeClavier Fri 07-Jun-13 09:20:26

So this is where you've been hiding!

I think with the first DC people do ask, pistachio. By the second they assume you planned it unless they're v close together or v far apart. My mother asked me!!!! DS is 2 - you'd think that was a fairly normal time to be thinking about another?

Harry a quad test is like the triple test, but includes inhibin-A. I'm pretty sure I had it last time as the triple screen and NT measurement were right on the borderline for accuracy.

Mum you'll be fine. I was pregnant overseas with DS and went to 40+4, excercisobg for at least an hour every day even through what was summer there and I was at the gym the day before I went into labour so yes, you can exercise! Drink plenty, stop of you feel tired, dizzy or breathless and if you're really worried get a heart rate monitor. I'm still cycling lots, with DS in the bike seat, in France and it really isn't too hot!

I'm still in normal clothes and was to 23w with DS so I'm not worried about getting my mat clothes out yet. I do have a retroverted uterus though so baby tends to grow backwards and upwards before my body realises there's a whole ton of space to go forwards! Gives me killer backache. Proper 1st trimester scan next Thursday. Despite having had one scan and seeing baby and heartbeat I'm still bricking it. And DH can't be there sad

Holly1977 Fri 07-Jun-13 09:39:38

Lady, I don't feel odd spending money on clothes that will last 6 months at most. I feel totally and utterly pissed off and very feminist about it all! It's not fair how much we have to spend before the baby even comes.

Fluffy, I didn't even know there was such a thing as mat knickers! Are they really necessary?! Some of my knickers are bigger than others so I'm going to have a too tight knickers cull this weekend and see what I'm left with. Hopefully just buying some slightly larger ones will do.

Pistachio, I think that's really rude and totally overstepping the mark other than from a good friend maybe.

I've bought quite a lot of mat stuff from ebay, bit of a gamble that it'll fit but a LOT cheaper than new.

Scan in 6 hours 10 minutes... Slightly less nervous today, trying my best to be positive and look forward to it...

readyornot2011 Fri 07-Jun-13 10:51:57

Ok CVS done. Slightly less traumatic than last time, except when the doctor shouted NO NO NO! Just after the needle had gone in then left it a good 10s to tell me it wasn't the baby it was the material/sheet covering me that was the problem. Got a few more grey hairs from that one I'm can tell you. Now to wait until Tues for the results by which time I'll probably be totally grey.

froubylou Fri 07-Jun-13 11:19:05

Morning all

Readyornot, good luck for the results. I bet you are glad that bit is over though. Did anyone see on the news this morning about the 'new' screening for downs etc being made available on a trial basis at a couple of hospitals? Assume this is the Harmony test they are talking about that you can currently only access privately?

Holly try and be excited rather than scared hun. What wil be will be in the end and look at it as an opportunity to see bean for the first time rather than anything awful. A lot easier said than done I know. Got my scan next thursday and already scared.

Knickers. I gave in last week and bought some HHHHUUUUGGGEEEE ones that go right over my mini bump lol. They are about as sexy as wet squid but you don't get that rollydown sensation with them. Went up 3 sizes (!!) and got full briefs rather than the bikini brief or hipster shorts I usually like. Have to admit they are very comfy and cheap enough (5 pairs for a fiver I think from Morrisons?) to chuck in the bin when they no longer fit.

Or use as spare curtains pmsl.

I was hoping my sister who is roughly the same size as me and who's little boy is 5 months was going to pass some maternity clothes on but apparantly she thinks shes thrown them away as she was trying to loose her weight and didn't want the temptation to slip on something comfy in her wardrobe lol. Can understand but she could have waited a bit longer. After my scan next week I think I am going to buy a couple of longer tops, some more leggings and maybe a long cardi for the summer. Really don't want to buy maternity summer stuff as it summer could be gone anytime now lol. At least if I try and wait whilst august/sept for jeans and stuff I'll know they should fit until the end.

Just had a strop at myself. Really wanted a cheese salad sandwhich. Made myself wait until 11ish so it could be an early lunch rather than a snack. Buttered bread, put my salad on and went to open cheese to find it was just turning that horrid whitey mouldy colour. Hmmmppphhhh.

So had a quavers salad sandwhich instead lol. Not quite the same and the salad creme (new fetish, its nice with chips and on jacket potato) made the quavers a bit soggy.

Car back later though so will be able to do a big shop. What I really ought to be doing now is cleaning the fridge out whilst its nice and empty. What I am planning on doing is waiting for this last lot of clothes to dry, taking it upstairs to put away and 'just having a min' on the bed. Which will probably end up being a good hour. But in my defence I really didn't sleep very well last night and was up from 2am until about 4.30am, then OH's alarm went off at 5.30am and got up with him.

FluffyDucky Fri 07-Jun-13 12:32:22

Ready well done & thinking of you x
I think the test they were talking about may be one I was told about, there is one they can do in america & it's availble here but costs about £600!

Gannetgob Fri 07-Jun-13 13:46:15

I've just got back from my scan and I'm just feeling a bit fed up and down.

Everything is fine with the baby but they weighed me and I've put on 8lbs in 4 weeks. It's really depressing. My bmi is nearly 32. I can't afford it to get much higher! It's just made me think about how hard I've had to work to lose weight in the past. I went from a size 22 to a 14/16 and I can see myself getting back up to that stage again.

I haven't been doing any exercise, but now I'm past 12 weeks I can do a couple of the antenatal classes I wanted to do. It's just food that's the issue for me. The thought of healthy stuff just turns my stomach at the moment. So I'm eating crap all the time and having to eat often because I feel sick so much.

Moan moan moan.

Please tell me I'm not alone in thinking this!

readyornot2011 Fri 07-Jun-13 14:08:26

Frouby, I hear you on the salad cream! I've got through nearly a whole bottle since I fell pregnant.

froubylou Fri 07-Jun-13 14:34:19

Gannet my bmi was just normal when I got pg. Dont panic at numbers and figures and measurements.

Mine will go over I know BUT until they develop a seperate bmi for pg women Im not interested. For mine to stay normal I could only gain about 3lb. Which I dont think would be healthg for me or the baby.

Now we are moving on in our pgs we should start to have more energy. So eat what you want but increase your excercise. Lots of walking does the tricn for me personally.

But brilliant news about your scan!

Holly yours must be soon. Dont worry if your dp doesnt make it. We are all there with you!

Holly1977 Fri 07-Jun-13 15:02:54

It's just under an hour. Just waiting for dp to arrive, he's promised me he'll be on time. he'd better be cos I've just had a series of massive technology related tantrums / screaming fits. Usually a good indicator that I'm feeling stressed! Trying not to be but... anyway, figured out a better way to get to the hospital and just realised it's where I had my colposcopies so I know exactly where I'm going now. Just want it over and done with. Started drinking my pint of water, still not convinced my body can hold that much so I'm drinking it slowly for now!

Agree with Frouby, try not to worry too much Gannet. Try and eat healthily, get some exercise and don't worry about losing weight in the future, there's just no point in fretting about that now. Easier said than done I know!

Right, ipod fired up with some relaxing songs for the car, ready to go... wish me luck!

Holly1977 Fri 07-Jun-13 16:25:37

Bean present and correct and jumping round like a loon! think it had hiccups actually! Amazing, there's a flipping baby in there! Wow, so happy. Please excuse all the meltdowns!

mumoftwoboysS Fri 07-Jun-13 16:47:00

Good luck Holly hope it all goes well!

Just got my HCG results back- she said it's high (45,550- whatever that means!) and is a good high number for a healthy pregnancy. She said that after 8-9 weeks they can't use HCG levels as an accurate way to date the pregnancy as hormone levels naturally decrease after that. I guess I have to be happy with that (and the fact that there's been no more bleeding) and hang on another 10 days till my scan....

Ganet I've put on 6lbs from eating loads too due to needing to stave off the nausea and also not fancying healthy stuff (she types whilst eating a currant bun-yum!) so you're not alone. I don't have a high bmi but it just shows whatever shape or size we are it's normal to gain that much weight due to trying to stop being/feeling sick so don't beat yourself up about it. I'm sure it will level off in 2nd/3rd tri. And its easier to exercise after the 1st tri when energy returns and we stop feeling quite so shite.

inkymomma Fri 07-Jun-13 17:38:29

Finally found you on. Only having internet on my phone is becoming a problem.
Finally having my scan on Monday. Bit nervous. Just want to make sure everything is ok etc.
Saw my MIL today after having lunch with my SIL and DH...she looked at my tummy and said 'gosh it looks like you are having triplets' I bloody well hope not! I don't think I am that big but she's got me worried now!
(it was quite a big lunch followed by an ice cream...that my excuse anyway)

froubylou Fri 07-Jun-13 20:20:11

Brill news holly. Does it feel real yet lol.

I painted my toe nails today and struggled to reach them pmsl. And have felt heavy all day. Am slightly breathless just doing normal stuff.

Anyone else feel the same or is it the stopping smoking and hayfever and asthma? Nasal spray and piriton seems to be doing trick though.

FluffyDucky Fri 07-Jun-13 20:44:31

Frouby I feel quite breathless too and quite easily (going up stairs etc) I've been anemic before, it feel similar to that! Glad you are starting to feel better!

Has anyone thought about fathers day and cards? I am tempted to get my husband a card from mini-moo for fun lol

Holly1977 Fri 07-Jun-13 21:53:13

Not really, it all still seems a bit unreal. I keep looking at the picture over and over trying to convince myself it's an actual baby! I'm sure I'll get there eventually!

I get quite breathless and apparently huff and puff at really stupid things but then manage to cycle 12 miles including a solid mile up hill at the end without feeling too tired. All very strange.

Is anyone else having problems fully emptying their bladder? Don't know if I'm imagining it but it feels like I have to go all the time but when I do it's not really that satisfying. Not as bad as cystitis or anything, just annoying.

FluffyDucky Fri 07-Jun-13 21:55:46

Holly, it will begin to feel more real now smile When you pee, try leaning forward a little, it helps to empty more. You won't fully empty it (ever really) but it does make a difference x

Alyssa1978 Sat 08-Jun-13 07:27:55


When I was pregnant with my first i sent a card from moon pig with a pic of the scan on the front, now I have 2 running around I'm just gonna add bumps name on my sons card.

I am really breathless just walking up stairs but my lungs are fine and I'm getting 98% oxygen to my body so apparently its a wonderful side affect of pregnancy smile

froubylou Sat 08-Jun-13 07:48:09

Glad its not just me than lol. I remember being breathless towards the end with DD but not so early on. I was anemic last time as well so will mention it to the midwife next time. Been taking pregnacare vits though so shouldn't be I wouldn't have thought?

Anyone else a bit pissed off that it looks like we are in for a scorching heatwave? We'll all be fat and waddly and sweaty for july and august. And we can't sit in beer gardens with a nice cold Bulmers either. Though I did try an alcohol free kopaburg last night and it was a reasonable compromise. Better than lemonade anyway lol.

Bizarre dreams have returned. Last night I was swiimg with DP in a pool I learnt to swim in as a child. Robson Green tried to chat me up, so DP sacked him cos he worked for us. Then when I went to get changed there was an illegal rave in the changing rooms and no one would let me in a cubicle to get dressed. Then me and DP and Robson went to my nans for sunday dinner. But my aunty deb was supposed to be cooking it and she was very late and my strange cousin took over and turned the leg of lamb into a roast chicken. WTF!!!!

abcdemma Sat 08-Jun-13 17:14:37

Hi ladies, back again. Scan went swimmingly and bambino even turned to wave at us. Defo needed the old kleenex lol!
On the flip-side, sorry to read the couple of bad news posts on part 2 thread, I just can't imagine....
Bought the OH a card from 'the bump', it'll prob freak him out but hey ho smile
Frouby I'm loving the sound of alcohol-free cider since I'd kill for one in this weather, do any of the pub chains sell them or is it just supermarkets? At least we'll only be 5-6 months in the heatwave and not ready to pop haha!
Sorry to anyone eating right now but is anyone else ridiculously bunged up (and not the nose...)??

MildredH Sat 08-Jun-13 17:56:54

Abcd- yes, horribly so although had some action yesterday which made me more comfy.

Keep meaning to drink some prune juice but been too sicky over last few days to want it.

Another GLAMOUROUS side effect! Must work out what's safe to take apart from lactulose which I'm not keen on as my patients always complain it makes them windy and can give gripey pains..

Alyssa1978 Sat 08-Jun-13 18:36:57

Just got my results back from nuchal test... Low risk, 1 in 34774.

5ammy Sat 08-Jun-13 19:47:30

Just got our Downs syndrome probability back as 1/100,000.

Went out last night - had a great night, but kinda wished I could have had a drink and acted a bit recklessly, instead of just tap water.
On the plus side I didn't have the sore head! Nor did I embarrass myself.

lisbapalea Sat 08-Jun-13 20:26:51

Hi all!
Lots of good news on here with all these scans, so congrats to everyone! I still have more than a week to wait which is very frustrating as by my reckoning I am already 12 wks! I am currently feeling a bit paranoid and anxious as DD has come down with chicken pox which I know can be very dangerous for pregnancy. I had chicken pox just 5 years ago for the first time so my immunity should be nice and strong but I am still feeling a bit worried - I keep convincing myself I am itching but I know I have no spots!! I think I will try and see the GP on Monday anyway, just so I can let them know, and hopefully put my own mind at rest.

musiceverywhere Sat 08-Jun-13 23:34:38

Hi all, so glad to hear of all positive scans. Had mine Tuesday, all well. Couldn't do NT measurements though so they managed to squeeze me in for another one the next day so saw the baby again! Can't remember what I've posted, but am STILL waiting on a decision re: cyst so going for another scan in 4 weeks. But going for a week in the sun (hopefully!) first. To those who have given up smoking, well done! I'm definitely missing a cold g & t at the moment!
And I can't check who it was on my phone, but the poster whose midwife suggested they smoke to reduce their hayfever/asthma symptoms?? (instead of being a professional and finding out what treatment they CAN have) shock I think the theory might be cigarette smoke paralyses the 'hairs' in your airways (making you at greater risk of chest infections etc) but on flip side when you stop smoking they must be super sensitive when they 'wake up' again! Anyway, hope you've got some relief now.
Went to charity shops for summer clothes today and got a lovely purple stretchy maxi dress from Monsoon! Bargain smile
Does anyone fancy a new list of updated due dates??

froubylou Sun 09-Jun-13 12:32:42

Hello all

ABC, I got my lovely cider from one of the big pub chains local to us. Its a HungryHorse I think? Does food as well as drink and quite a big pub really. My local doesn't have them though. But have requested some to be ordered in as we know landlady quite well.

Mildred I've been the same all way through. In fact constipation was one of the reasons I actually suspected I may be PG a week before AF was due. I find a big glass of orange juice usually does the trick. With plenty of water throughout the day as well. Nothing worse than that bloated achey feeling.

Music it is me that has had an interesting time giving up the evil weed lol. Stopsmoking midwife was pretty useless when I saw her last week. At first wouldn't have it that asthma/hayfever was worse by stopping smoking, then had to have the theory behind why explained 3 times and then consult Dr Google on her laptop herself before she'd believe me. Anyhows shes back on tuesday and was planning on doing some of her own research and consulting with the GP's. Bet shes dreading coming back to see me pmsl. But I did buy some Piriton and been taking that last thing at night and first thing in the morning, which combined with the nasal spray seems to be keeping the worse of the symptoms away hayfever wise. Very chesty at the min though. Fed up of coughing and piddling a bit. PMSL, literally.

Good news about all the results coming in as well. I decided against having any TBH. Because I am a wuss lol. But glad everyone elses are good.

And no one go into the part of the board that has 'testing/choices whilst PG' I think its called. I had a browse through and although there is an awful lot of knowledge and support, its just given me a load more things to worry about pre-scan lol.

Ignorance is bliss sometimes. Last time I was PG 9 years ago I had the usual books from the Midwife and that was it. Now I know loads more stuff that TBH I wish I didn't. Google is a double edged sword!

Just added to my weight gain and had a KFC on the way home from the Big Shop. Yummy yummy in my big fat tummy lol.

Futterby Sun 09-Jun-13 19:43:35

Hey, can I join in? I'm actually due on the 30th of November (St Andrew's Day grin) but I'm expecting to go over but a bit. Kind of taking part in the November antenatal thread but I'm just so far behind everyone that I'm feeling a bit left out!

merr Sun 09-Jun-13 21:43:25

Hello all,
Just been reading through the first bit of the thread and starting to catch up!

Edd 25th Dec with number two, feeling pretty awful all the time which never happened with no1, so feeling more nervous. scan on Friday and hopefully all will be well.

Going to try and catch up with part two now, whilst eating random rubbish, as usual.

MildredH Sun 09-Jun-13 22:31:30

Welcome Merr & Futterby..

Futterby we share an EDD.. smile

Futterby Sun 09-Jun-13 22:50:15

Hi Mildred smile that's pretty cool, there was nobody else in the November thread with the same edd smile

MildredH Mon 10-Jun-13 07:07:27

Wouldn't it be amazing if baby H actually turned up on Nov 30th?

I'm utterly determined to get on top of this constipation problem naturally.. Sliced kiwi & dried apricots in the packed lunch today. Lurvely!

Is it really Monday again already? hmm

Alyssa1978 Mon 10-Jun-13 08:44:35

November 30th is a great birthday, it was the day ds1 was born grin
Wasn't due until December 19th but I guess he just wanted out.
Ds2 born on July 17th and this one is due December 2nd.

froubylou Mon 10-Jun-13 09:55:38

I've just had a ham salad sandwhich for breakfast pmsl.

It was what I wanted. My salad cream fetish is alive and well. And I'm usually a salad dressing kind of girl.

Problem is the ham was for tea tonight and now I will have to nip out and get some more. The best place to buy ham without going into town is the little village bakery/sandwhich shop. Which does a mean homemade sausage roll.

Feck. Am going to be ginourmous! I usually put on about 7lbs when I stop smoking. Add that to the fact that I am permanently hungry and cooking a small person and I bet I am waddling in another month.

I have some grapes and strawberries in the fridge for healthy snacks when I feel the urge to smoke (which has been very strong the last day or two) but I haven't even opened them yet.

Baby likes winegums!

mumoftwoboysS Mon 10-Jun-13 10:14:44

One week today I'll be sat in the scanning room (is that what it's called??) can't wait!.....

felt sick this morning and I'm 12+4 I thought it was supposed to subside by now hmm

frouby I like salad cream at the moment too but for breakfast??! (what does pmsl mean btw? I'm just not up with the lingo!)

good luck to those having scans this week

lisbapalea Mon 10-Jun-13 11:15:25

Mumoftwo - I am in the same boat! 10am next Monday for my first scan - feels like I have been waiting forever as I am also 12+weeks. What EDD are you estimating? I have calculated anything from 21Dec to 28Dec so am quite interested to see what the scan tells me!

I called the midwife team this morning just to ease my paranoia about DD's chicken pox and they have confirmed that I will be OK as I have had it already. I got myself a bit worked up about that with stories of people catching it multiple times etc, but am taking the midwife's word for it now.

I have eaten appallingly over the last week as have been utterly knackered because of DDs interrupted nights, as well as having a stinking cold of my own, so I am going to do everything I can this week to improve my nutrition. Well, after dinner tonight as that is a pizza that I found in the freezer....

Futterby Mon 10-Jun-13 11:22:33

Mildred, a great big glass of orange juice always sorts me right out smile

Mumoftwo, my morning sickness was still going strong at twelve weeks but I was fifteen weeks on Saturday and haven't been sick in forever it seems smile hopefully you're feeling better smile

FluffyDucky Mon 10-Jun-13 11:27:23

Pmsl = pissing myself laughing...

Just bought a new pair of work shoes. I'm finding my feet are so uncomfy & swollen by the end of the day my current ones are almost cutting into the wide bit of my feet (always a red mark) luckily clarks have a sale, got a new pair for £20. My feet will be pleased

PistachioTruffle Mon 10-Jun-13 11:55:03

Hello all!
We told the rest of family and close friends this weekend, and had some very positive reactions, so pleased its done and out in the open!

I've also started signing up for baby clubs to get vouchers and money off codes, and got the Emma's diary freebie pack too (I've put made up phone numbers in though, I didn't fancy phone calls from them)

mumoftwoboysS Mon 10-Jun-13 16:18:44

Ooh lisbapalea mine's at 9.40am! Yeah it does feel like forever, feel cheated as I know someone else who's 12 weeks and she gets her scan this week. Oh well, good to know I'm not the only one. MW said my EDD is 24th but I got 22nd (and 19th if I go by date of conception) and like you say, I'm interested to know what date the sonographer gives me. With my previous two they were both on their due date (well one was 3 hours late) and it was the date the sonographer gave me so I tend to believe them!!

flutterby I think I felt so sick this morning because I ate dinner so early last night and just left it too long before eating. But yeah, hope it goes away soon.

so bloody tired today -feel like I'm dragging myself around the place and DS's are really tiring. Thank god my mum came round and even took them to the park (a rare occurence) I must look like crap- lol!

pistachio lovely to tell people- makes it all seem more real doesn't it? Can't wait to tell a few more after the scan, might wait till after our hols to tell more- I'll be showing by then if not before so won't be able to hide it!

Dasie Mon 10-Jun-13 16:29:09

Futterby and mildred I share the same EDD too, lovely to have some birthing buddies on here!!

I've told everyone now that I'm pregnant, being 15 weeks now its actually pretty obvious!! I've put about 10 lbs on and really trying not to stress about it but failing miserably

Good luck all you scanners coming up, I'm counting down to my 20 week scan now which is 12 July grin

MildredH Mon 10-Jun-13 19:17:35

Dasie you're lucky to have your 20 wk date.. Mines not come through yet. Will be fab to be able to count down to the next milestone.. Mind you I don't want to wish it away and it's already going by far faster than the early weeks!!

Ha ha I know what you mean Dasie my 20 week scan is the 15th of July, 5 weeks today not counting or anything grin

MildredH Mon 10-Jun-13 19:45:48

Having a maternity shopping spree on ASOS..

K Middy has been seen in one of the dresses on there which is now reduced and I had been thinking of buying.. Going to buy now as bound to be sold out by tomo!

They seem to have nice bits.. Far nicer than I've seen in Gap or H&M maternity so far.. Hope the quality is ok. Previous purchases from there have gone back as turned out to be a bit too synthetic & shiny..

Fingers crossed.

Futterby Mon 10-Jun-13 19:53:40

I don't know if it's just my hospital that does this but I don't actually get a letter for my scans, they just write it in my notes at my appointments. My next one is on the 17th of July, I'll be 20+3 smile totally can't wait to see if my gender prediction is correct! :D

13loki Mon 10-Jun-13 20:01:29

Finished teaching for this school year. 3 more work days and I'm on summer holidays. Then about 1.5 weeks of inset and 10 weeks of lessons until I will go on maternity leave. 180 teaching hours. Not that I'm counting!

I bought quite a bit from zalando and it seems better quality than I expected.

LadyMedea Mon 10-Jun-13 21:27:07

Saw my boss today after she's had two weeks out of the office. She is a nice person but has a tendency to not think before speaking (and has never had kids) so I got a 'you're so big, your going to be enormous'.

I have a small bump which looks like all the pictures for 14+4 weeks.... What is she going to be like when I actually get big....? I don't think I'd realise quite how inappropriate comments like that we're until I was pregnant.

MildredH Mon 10-Jun-13 21:59:57

Everyone has an opinion don't they LadyM!

You've just prompted me to google pictures of "15 weeks pregnant" and it's reassured me I'm quite normal!

I'm sure if I could get on top of the flipin constipation my "bump" world reduce! Kiwi & apricots did not do the job so I'm investing in some nice OJ tomo!

LadyMedea Mon 10-Jun-13 22:10:51

mildred have you tried benefiber? I think it's a miracle product! No taste in water and so easy to up your soluble fibre and get things moving.

MildredH Mon 10-Jun-13 22:23:26

I haven't no.. I have got Psyllium husk capsules though which I think are along same lines?

To be honest, I'm just rubbish at remembering to do/take anything regularly.. I always wait til there's a problem and then try and resolve..

Maybe need to get in habit of taking one capsule with brek in the morning or something!

What a lurvely problem! sad

musiceverywhere Mon 10-Jun-13 22:31:45

Stressed in our house tonight. Neighbour has been contacted by Planning Office at the council with details of our planned extension and came round today to tell DH that they would be objecting to it sad Really didn't need this. It's going to hold things up massively and absolute worst case scenario is we won't be able to make this house what we need and we'll have to move... They reckon it will 'box them in' and 'block daylight'. (I don't want to speak to them as I'll end up blurting out 'you'll be in a nursing home in 5 years anyway' which is partly true!) Going away on friday, but now this is what we'll have to come back to. And can't get remortage done until plans approved which means credit card debt sits there for even longer.... sad
Stay in there little bean- real life too stressful!
Couldn't make it to work on time today, was exhausted. Hope everyone had a nice Monday- nice to have kids back at school?? smile

PistachioTruffle Mon 10-Jun-13 22:51:21

Ah Music, that's rubbish! I'm sorry they are being obstructive, what are the chances they will be successful?

AuroraOrtiz Tue 11-Jun-13 05:00:50

Hello everyone, am just catching up - moved house recently - from renting a furnished one bed flat to a house that needs a lot of work and has nothing in it so have been a bit stressed! It's now 4.50am and have been awake last two hours - have got my scan this afternoon (12 weeks, due date 21st Dec). Really scared as this is my first - last year I mc'd at 13 weeks - so freaking out it might have happened again - feel like crying!
Music - someone told me the planning rules have changed and 'obstruction of light' can't be used anymore to object planning, so maybe worth getting independent advice? Don't know for sure though.
Was hoping that, if scan all ok, can start telling people (haven't told a soul except dp) but am sure midwife said will take a week for results of the nuchal test thing to come through - is that right?

LadyMedea Tue 11-Jun-13 07:45:13

aurora we had our results by letter after 9 days but after taking advice here and talking to th ultrasound technician we were told we be rung quickly if it was a high risk result, so after waiting nearly a week we decided we were in the clear and we were. It was still nice to see it I'm black and white though.

FluffyDucky Tue 11-Jun-13 07:58:24

Aurora, the results take about a week you are right. We got a phone call due to our results, we had the scan on the Wednesday and the call the following Tuesday. Funnily enough the letter for the 2o week scan arrived first lol!

TakingTheStairs Tue 11-Jun-13 09:58:58

Music just because they object doesn't actually mean your application will be rejected. It is annoying but at least they were decent enough to tell you to your face rather than being sly about it.

froubylou Tue 11-Jun-13 11:27:43

Morning all

My first scan isn't while thursday. EDD is 24/12. Will be 12+3 when I go. Feel sick with nerves and excitement. DP can't make it (finishing a big contract off and as its morning would mean a full day off) so BF is coming instead.

Lady, my mum told me I was fat the other day lol. And my sister too. She sent me a txt message asking about something and when I confirmed it replied 'cheers fatty'. Nice lol.

Stopsmoking midwife coming later for round 2 lol. Poor woman will be dreading it. Hope shes done her research as I requested!

Should really be chucking hoover round living room and maybe even dusting but can't be bothered. Housework day is tomorrow so shes being inconvenient coming today.

Anyone else have really itchy boobs and especially nipples? Dear lord I'm driving myself mad scratching away at them. Look like I've been mauled. Keep smothering them in E45 and the other day even sudacreme (which DP thought was most amusing when I came out of the bathroom in a towel and dropped it to put PJ's on) but still they itch! And itch. And itch.

QueenofWhispers Tue 11-Jun-13 11:51:15

You should tell them "what light?" there isn't any to begin with.

You guys I think I'm withering away on the inside, it was just too cold yesterday. Even my poor puppy wanted to wear a jacket to the park. Waaah.

FluffyDucky Tue 11-Jun-13 12:08:50

Frouby, itchy tits here too lol! I've taken to using my bump lotion on them but I do get odd looks at work when I need to give them a good rub! Thank god for padded bras though, christ it looks like I'm permanently cold!

Roselau Tue 11-Jun-13 13:08:30

dang I just posted in the wrong thread! nice to find this one... Here is what i posted on the other thread. looking forward to reading everyone's experiences.

I am 12 weeks today, due on December 24th. talk about timing.
I'm going for my scan in 3 days on Friday morning, and I'm so impatient. I lost all my symptoms at 9 weeks, and have been really anxious since then to know that everything is ok. I have no bump, fit in all my clothes no problem, barely any weight gain, and the little there is can be 100% attributed to my pigging out. I've been reading all of this stuff about missed miscarriage, and I know they are uncommon, especially since I got a scan at 7 weeks and saw a heartbeat, but still can't help but think about it. I've had very light pressure / cramps in the past couple of days but may just be imagining them or uterus finally deciding to grow?!
ARG bring on this scan - I can't focus on work or anything else at the moment!!

Alyssa1978 Tue 11-Jun-13 13:21:23

Yep I had the itchy boobs too, stopped about a week before my dating scan, I put my palmers cocoa butter on them ever since my bflp just like with other 2 pgs and on the up side I still have no stretch marks grin

Roselau Tue 11-Jun-13 13:30:47

froubylou - same due date!!! good luck with your scan. you're lucky you get it a day earlier than me! I had itchy boobs for a while. it's gone now. It was awkward when I had to itch at work... but didn't last for too long so I just dealt with it...

Alyssa1978 Tue 11-Jun-13 13:35:11

bfp I mean lol

My symptoms stopped before my scan at 12 weeks and I still worried even though I saw the heartbeat at 6+5 weeks, everything turned out fine, I still panic now as every symptom has stopped.
I'm never happy, complained about the morning sickness, now I want it back with the ore boobs that have also gone hmm

PistachioTruffle Tue 11-Jun-13 13:45:00

Roselau, I had very few symptoms originally, then none from around 8-9 weeks. I had my scan last week, and sure enough there is a very active baby in there grin. I too was worried about missed miscarriage, but I came to the conclusion that worrying wouldn't help and just tried my best to relax. Interestingly, I spoke to my mum and she had barely any symptoms in any of her pregnancies either! Good luck for Friday.

I now have The Hunger. I made a huge bowl of tuna sweetcorn pasta, thinking that I could have some tomorrow for lunch too. I've just eaten the lot, and I'm STILL hungry. I can feel my tummy rumbling.

Oh, and yes to the itchy boobs too. I think they've grown again as well hmm

Roselau Tue 11-Jun-13 13:54:58

Thanks PistachioTruffle & Alyssa for the reassurance!
glad i'm not the only one with few symptoms. it would all be much easier if i 'felt' preggo.
But I feel for you on the hunger - my stomach feels empty every 3 hours, no matter what I eat. I cannot believe the amount of food I can ingest in a day, and still barely put on 1/2 pound since week 1.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 11-Jun-13 14:10:03

only 1/2 lb Roselau! I've put on about 6 and my stomach looks like i'm about 4 months pregnant already- and I'm not a big person so it's pretty obvious- I'm beginning to think I got it all wrong and I'm a month further along!!

I don't have any symptoms now apart from the hunger... and tiredness. Secretly worried about mmc too but like you say, they're pretty rare, and we should try and stay positive smile

6 days till my scan. Why...is...time....going....soooo...slowly???.....

Kerfuffled Tue 11-Jun-13 17:04:32

I had my scan yesterday. I thought I was 11+4 but scan had me at 13 weeks giving a due date of December 16th. I was another one who was worried about the scan as I had lost all symptoms except for bloody constipation however everything was fine and now I'm just waiting for blood test results. Then I can tell everyone which can't come soon enough as this bump is taking some hiding now!

Roselau Tue 11-Jun-13 17:23:03

mumoftwoboysS yes I know I should count my blessings. I was not feeling good weeks 5 - 9 and lost 4 pounds which I have gained back. I think it will catch up to me at some point though as I just had 3 massive cookies today...
I'm 125 lbs, 5'6' so as soon as it starts, it will be pretty obvious.

Right, Tuesday is almost done getting me a day closer to scan day!! I literally have a sheet at my desk where I count the hours... LAME I know. 66 hours to go.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 11-Jun-13 18:32:10

FFS somehow just deleted my message!!...

Kerfuffled great news that you're further along - not so much of an Xmas baby now! Hope I am too but I doubt it!

Roselau I wasn't feeling great either but the only thing that helped the nausea was eating so I reckon I packed the pounds on pretty quickly!

God, can't find a pair of maternity shorts ANYWHERE. The only ones I've found are either denim or smart/city type and I need them for holiday -so need some cool/cotton comfy ones. Why doesn't anyone make them?? The ones i have found are over the bump which will just fall down at present... Grr....

yogafan Tue 11-Jun-13 21:02:14

mumoftwo - I've seen some shorts for sale at mamanjojobebe, not sure how much they cost, probably lots...

yogafan Tue 11-Jun-13 21:05:15

Gap do some v. short shorts, not over the bump - £30 though

mumoftwoboysS Tue 11-Jun-13 21:13:17

thanks for the info - may have to look in Jojo tomorrow. Like the gap ones (tho they all seem a bit on the short side) but just can't bring myself to pay the £4 delivery charge (I think only London stock maternity clothes in store?)

may try New Look too...

AuroraOrtiz Tue 11-Jun-13 21:54:08

Had scan and all ok - although hard to take a photo as it kept standing on it's head!! Think I've got a little acrobat in there! And due date now at Christmas Eve!!

Roseau - try not to worry too much - having seen the heart beat at 7 weeks means there is a good chance will be ok. I haven't got a bump yet either and was worrying about that, but I think everyone is different.

Soopermum1 Tue 11-Jun-13 22:07:41

I seem to have transitioned to looking like I've eaten all the pies to having a more defined bump now, thank goodness, was getting fed up just looking fat with a barrel like torso rather than a bump.

Got my baby on board badge at the ready too, but only using it for longer journeys that I know will be really crowded, don't mind a few stops on the underground.

Placed a rather large online order at New Look for maternity clothes so will feed back when I get them. Already have a couple of bits from Red Herring at Debenhams, which are lovely but currently too big.

Still in the 'larger' end of my normal clothes, looking forward to fitting into my new stuff!

AuroraOrtiz Tue 11-Jun-13 22:15:48

Soopermum - how do you get the baby on board badge? Do you have to apply for it?

Futterby Tue 11-Jun-13 22:31:25

Don't think they do them in Scotland sad

Futterby Tue 11-Jun-13 22:32:09

And congrats aurora!

PistachioTruffle Tue 11-Jun-13 23:02:21

mumoftwo, I got some cotton shorts from primark for £5. They aren't specific maternity wear, but the waistband has a strip of soft elasticated fabric like under bump jeans do. I got a size bigger and they are still a little big, but there is also a draw string so they are adjustable and very comfy.

My mothercare jeggings arrived today too, very comfy and not too long either.

I forgot to say earlier, thanks for the replies about the nosy 'was it planned' questions. I really felt quite uncomfortable, but because it happened quite a few times I wasn't sure if it was now commonplace to ask. I'd start at AIBU thread about it if I was feeling brave grin

MildredH Tue 11-Jun-13 23:14:18

Ok, so my big haul of dresses arrived from ASOS.. 9 of them and ONE FITS!!!
Argh.... They're all bleddy humungous. Ordered size 12's- now got to return a few for 10's. I've not been a 10 since getting married 2 yrs ago.
They are nice- just suggest anyone ordering sizes down!

violetbean Wed 12-Jun-13 00:02:44

Aurora, I got mine by going to Charing Cross tube station and asking at the ticket office. Very quick and didn't have to present any evidence even though bump wasn't showing yet.

DH tried to get hold of one as a surprise birthday present for me a few weeks ago and every tube station he went to they refused, saying they'd run out! Maybe guys aren't allowed to pick them up... can't imagine why not though if they are doing it as a favour / present for a partner!

AuroraOrtiz Wed 12-Jun-13 05:37:18

Thanks Frouby! smile

Thanks violet - might try and get one next week - although bit scared I'll get dirty looks when I'm not really showing! That's funny they wouldn't give your guy one - it's not as if he could use it instead!!

AuroraOrtiz Wed 12-Jun-13 05:39:35

I meant thanks futterby! Argh sorry - I can't look back at the messages when I type - sorry!!

QueenofWhispers Wed 12-Jun-13 06:54:22

marking my place!

Roselau Wed 12-Jun-13 07:37:14

thanks aurora. congrats on your scan. hopefully it's a good sign as I'm also due christmas eve smile I know it's stupid but I can't wait to go get maternity clothes. i'm not getting anything right now because a) i dont need it but b) i feel like i'm jixing it. ha.

2 more days to go until scan day!

inkymomma Wed 12-Jun-13 08:00:01

Finally had my scan on Monday. Was lovely to see little figgy pudding. Good head circumference, good spine, lovely little heartbeat.
13 weeks today. Due 18th December. I guessed the 17th so only a day out. Got my 20 week scan on the 30th July when ill be exactly 20 weeks. I feel like its a boy but my 2 year old thinks its a girl as so does my DH.
Has anyone else been suffering terribly with back ache? Past couple of days at work its felt like my back has been on fire. It only happens at work as I'm on ny feet a lot (work in a care home)
Going to buy some maternity skinny jeans from New look as mine are now digging into my tummy and I pretty much live in skinny jeans and jumpers.
Hope everyone else is ok

froubylou Wed 12-Jun-13 08:25:49

Morning all

My scan is in 25 hours and 16 mins lol. I really am excited and scared all at once. EEEEK. Once thats done and everything is fine I am going maternity clothes shopping too. I bought some jeggings from matalan weeks ago in a size bigger Inky. Were only a tenner each and so far they are still comfy enoughy to wear to doss around in. May be worth a looksee if they are for work? Cheaper than maternity ones at any rate and will hopefully be useful when I'm going back down through the sizes.

Inky I had backache last week when we mooched round a shopping centre for a couple of hours (looking for clothes that were non maternity but would do for a BBQ) so I would imagine walking lots does hurt, especially if it is for work.

Theres a couple of us now with EDD of christmas eve. I really hope mine comes a week early. Will be so much easier to have DP off for Christmas anyway and no school run with DD to think about with a very newborn. Bet I go over though and the little bugger wants to come 3 Jan or something.

I had really bad heartburn all day yesterday sigh. Suffered terribly with it when I had DD from being about 5 months but if its starting now I'll definatly slow down with the weight gain. Its why I haven't worried too much about what I have eaten so far. With DD for the last 4 months I lived on cornflakes, Yop yoghurt drinks, oranges and chicken soup. Hoping it was just a one off or I'll be on the gaviscon pretty soon!

Just had some toast and can feel it starting again.

Oh and I had the stop smoking midwife back yesterday. She couldn't believe the difference in me lol. Said last week my face looked totally different, puffed up and blotchy and if it hadn't been for the fact I greeted her by name she would have thought it was my younger sister answering yesterday. Did admit to using Piriton (only at night as it does knock me sideways) and the nasal spray has helped a lot.

Do feel like I am being checked up on though. Blew into her little machine to keep her happy and got a non smoker reading (which I think surprised her but not me). Shes going to have a word with one of the consultants at the hospital this week to discuss hayfever remedies and asthma symptoms when stopping smoking (especially in pregnancy). Due to the conversation we had last week and looking back through her old cases she feels pregnant women in particular are being let down by the service as they aren't addressing or helping with some specific and real issues they may face. So that sounds quite a positive outcome to my suffering lol.

DP still struggling to quit though. Hes down from 20 to 10 a day along with an Efag which is better but still not good enough. Not nagging him over it though. Its banned in the house full stop and if he wants a ciggy has to go outside. Which is fine just now but by the time bebo is ready to put in an appearance it will be cold and wet and a good incentive to stop altogether I think.

Housework today. Sigh. Hate housework day. But feel much better once its done and to be honest seem to have more energy this last couple of weeks than before. So not a major chore now. Except the bollocking, bloody ironing lol. Can watch 1bornevery min though on Iplayer whilst I do it. Its like watching a horror film watching whilst PG! Want to get them out of the way now though before I'm tempted to go back to them when the birth is that bit closer!

Futterby Wed 12-Jun-13 10:51:58

Pistachio, I feel your pain about the "was it planned" question. I'm 18 and due on the 30th of November and every time I tell people I get asked "oh my god was it planned?!" I don't understand why people think it's their business! I've also been asked if I'm "getting rid of it" and if I "know who the father is".

Congrats inky smile

frouby, congrats on the reading! I was on 20 a day when I fell pregnant so I understand how hard it is smile

Featherbag Wed 12-Jun-13 11:08:34

A woman at the gym's just asked when I'm due and looked HORRIFIED when I said beginning of December!!!

MildredH Wed 12-Jun-13 11:28:02

Oh god- high five feather for even being at the gym!

I'm currently lying on the sofa eating crumpets with dairylea squished into them!

Featherbag Wed 12-Jun-13 11:37:21

A woman at the gym's just asked when I'm due and looked HORRIFIED when I said beginning of December!!!

NomDeClavier Wed 12-Jun-13 11:38:35

Loads of Christmas Eve now! Second scan tomorrow and I bet the due date changes again.... I don't really want to have an eviction date before January as if much prefer baby to arrive in Jan for schooling reasons! Although DH is being headhunter so we may not be in France anyway, which opens up homebitthing possibilities too, possibly involving water. I'm trying not to get too excited.

Tis my birthday today though smile and we're going out for dinner grin

PistachioTruffle Wed 12-Jun-13 11:46:21

I've just got the letter from the combined screening, risk of Down's syndrome less than 1 in 50,000.

inky figgy pudding is such a cute nickname for a Christmas bump grin I've been getting a lot of backache too, it feels like I want to stretch it out but it doesn't improve when I try.

I'm now worried because I weighed myself this morning and haven't put on any weight yet. Surely I should have? It's not as if I'm not eating crap either, mini pistachio seems to have a liking for Jaffa cakes!
Good grief, if I'm not worried about one thing it's another.....I guess this is is for the rest of my life now, if my friends who are already parents are to be believed wink

PistachioTruffle Wed 12-Jun-13 11:47:24

Ooh happy birthday Nom! flowers

Featherbag Wed 12-Jun-13 11:57:36

And if the gym incident didn't make me feel huge enough, I've just had my first offer of a seat on the bus, from an elderly lady with a walking stick! AND she was in the buggy-bay seats, they NEVER give up those seats, especially if you've got a buggy, as I have!

Featherbag Wed 12-Jun-13 11:58:23

Pistachio, don't worry and don't weigh yourself! That way lies madness, believe me!

Featherbag Wed 12-Jun-13 12:08:53

Futterby, how insanely rude! I would say tell them to eff off, but that would only reinforce the stereotype they seem to dump you in shock

abcdemma Wed 12-Jun-13 12:18:21

Pistachio I'm the same, in fact I've lost 4lbs since my first midwife appointment and scan (about a month) but appetite comes n goes so it'll prob creep back on... sadly sad
Happy Birthday NomDC smile

Roselau Wed 12-Jun-13 13:04:23

Pistachio and abc so happy to hear more people with no weight gain.
Every morning i ask hubby if he sees a difference and the answer is no. I tell him it's the only time in his life he's allowed to call me fat so he should be honest, but nada (she says as she's stuffing her face with cheese, crackers and chocolate).

44 hours to go until the scan!

froubylou Wed 12-Jun-13 13:21:39

Happy Birthday Nom!

If anyone is really worried about not gaining any weight they are welcome to some of the 6lbs I have gained. If you'd like to message me your address I'll get it posted out to you all ASAP.

It consists of Salt and Vinigar Crisps, salad creme on everything, wine gums (my new Nicotene replacement therapy!) and lots of pasta. Could also have the odd bit of cheesecake chucked in too.

Its mainly belly so will enhance those bumps. Cant help with arses though I'm afraid. Mines still the same.

Be warned though, if you accept this one off, no obligation to buy or keep offer you will be inundated for the next 6 months with pregnancy lbs, followed for another 6 months by the 'baby weight' I will be desperate to shift for another 6 months!

No need to say thanks, payments accepted in winegums!

mumoftwoboysS Wed 12-Jun-13 14:31:33

frouby Lol- I've got an extra 6lbs to give away too! (also mainly salt and vinegar crisps, cheese and salad cream....- oh and cakes!)

pistachio thanks re shorts in Primark- unfortunately there isn't one near me but after hunting round the shops today I came to the conclusion I'd be better off going to Sainsburys and getting some causal stretchy waisted shorts -like the ones you found that aren't maternity but will fit comfortably under the bump. Tried some on in JojoMamanBebe and it was hilarious- they are over the bump ones and as I have no real bump to speak of they didn't even stay up! I said to my mum- maybe they'll sell me the fake bump (a cushion with ties) that they have in the changing room so I can wear that with them!

now feeling like I've jinxed it after reading about you others not buying maternity clothes till after the scan- picked up a few pieces from New Look and H&M.....but only 1 was actually a maternity top, the others just baggy enough to use.

I've worked out I'll be 13+4 when I have my scan- what is the cut off for the nuchal test??

mumoftwoboysS Wed 12-Jun-13 14:32:28

oh and Happy Birthday too Nom!

mumoftwoboysS Wed 12-Jun-13 14:33:02

anyone getting quite a bit of pain around the bump- low down? I'm assuming it's stretching pain but ...ouch!

Roselau Wed 12-Jun-13 14:55:29

mumoftwoboysS I was told the window for the scan is 11 to 13+5 so you should be ok
And don't worry you didn't jinx it. I'm just paranoid like that. I'm trying to not let myself think too much about the next step, until I know that everything is ok. I get overly excited about things, which means that when I get disappointed, I fall really really low... so i'm trying to be cautiously optimistic. let's see how that works out.

Also the past two days I have been getting mild pain down low and sometimes to the left. It's not super painful but enough to make me wonder what the heck is going on down there. all the answers in.... 42 hours!!

frouby LOL will you take smarties in lieu of winegums as I had a mad craving for them and sent hubby to get me 10 packs the other day smile Don't worry, it will catch up to me and I know I will complain soon enough of being a whale. I have never eaten this much in my life.

ccsays Wed 12-Jun-13 17:29:50

Just marking my place. Got my 12 week scan tomorrow at the same time as you froubylou!

Also been getting a lot of the “so, was it planned?” pistachio So rude! It's basically like saying to someone “so, did your contraception fail?” Half tempted to say “No, it wasn't planned. We tried the hot bath and a bottle of gin but it just kept clinging on for dear life!” followed by a manical laugh.

2Labradors Wed 12-Jun-13 17:32:04

I think I might be gaining weight for all of you. I managed to put 7lbs on in a 2 week period! The scales had stayed the same prior to that but wow, was a bit of a shock. Am nearly 16 weeks now though, so it is 7lbs in 16 weeks, although technically only took me 2 weeks to gain it lol!

I think baby had a growth spurt, and he/she is addicted to subway, nothing to do with me grin

Clairea82 Wed 12-Jun-13 18:41:19

Hi! Mind if I join you?

1st baby due 3rd Dec.

Bit surprised at just how rough I have felt for the last three months and had CVS test at 12 weeks, but results all back ok, feeling a bit better and expecting a little girl smile

merr Wed 12-Jun-13 18:52:34

Hope your scans go well tomorrow ccsays and frouby (and anyone else thats tomorrow!) can't wait to get through mine on fri so I can hopefully buy some maternity jeans, all my clothes are stretching precariously...

2Labradors, I did the same put on 6 pounds in 2 weeks, seems to have settled down a bit now, also doesnt help that there is a subway at the bottom of my road ;)

MildredH Wed 12-Jun-13 20:15:52

Am glad other people are having pains/ stretching feelings. I get a bit panicky when they happen. Also still a bit nervous every time I go to the loo in case there's blood. Coming up 16 wks- will I ever feel like I can relax?

I've ummed and ahhed about getting a Doppler.. Could be great for reassurance but I know I'll drive myself beserk if I can't find the heartbeat..

MildredH Wed 12-Jun-13 20:32:29

Sorry- re-read that. I'm not glad other people having pains.. Just relieved its not just me and hopefully perfectly normal!

b0nker5Mum Wed 12-Jun-13 20:40:26

Been lurking a bit last few weeks as been busy with the house and holes in floors ceilings and walls!! Lots to do!!

Mildred, I am exactly the same as you... I bought a cheap doppler on amazon for about £25 ish and although the display isn't great we do use it a lot so I'm not sure it was a great idea but its lovely for dp to listen to the heartbeat... And actually if I don't find it I just assume its laying with its back to me.. So i don't panic as much as I thought I would!

Not really sure what I'm saying really! grin

Glad scans are all going well... I am putting on weight but too scared to see how much!!! Still fit in usual clothes even if the zips don't go up all the way and buttons are nowhere near the holes...!

I'm 14 + 3 and haven't told any of my colleagues except management so I'm sure they must all just think I'm getting fat!!!

AuroraOrtiz Wed 12-Jun-13 21:40:22

I too am getting some stretching sort of pain. I also keep sneezing because of hayfever and that sometimes really hurts.

Has anyone else started singing Christmas songs?!! Every time I take shower I break into a Christmas song medley!! Or is that just me?!! Have definitely decided to put a positive spin on the whole Christmas birthday thing - I mean at what other time of year is everyone so up for parties and celebrating?!! Plus if it does fall at Christmas, it means I can always spend its birthday together and not have to go to work. Haven't told anyone yet, but am already rehearsing what I'll say to any negativity - no one's dissing my Christmas acrobat!!

MildredH Wed 12-Jun-13 22:08:44

Thanks bonkers.. I'm definitely going to give it more thought..

I got really excited at the mention of Christmas while we were out with friends last night.. Just knowing- all being well- baby H will be with us!

Argh- to Doppler or not to..

abcdemma Wed 12-Jun-13 23:19:34

I also get tummy pains when sneezing, which is now quite often due to hayfever season sad
When people mention anything 'next year' I keep thinking "bambino will be -- months old by then!"... scary!
Doppler is a nice idea smile

Mogz Wed 12-Jun-13 23:42:42

Hi! Joining in, due date is December 2nd, seems like ages away yet scarily close a the same time. This will be baby number 1.
Had two scans, at 9 and 11, waiting on the invite to the 20 week scan and then some extras as I've got hyperemesis, sludgy gallbladder and fatty liver disease and managed to lose over 2 stones between week 4 and now (about 15) ... Oops!
Also getting stupid muscle pain when I sneeze, glad it's not just me! It's a bloody nuisance!

Futterby Wed 12-Jun-13 23:50:26

Happy birthday Nom smile welcome Mogz!

I get the sneezey pain, I've taken to holding onto my belly whenever I feel one coming on. I look a right tool when I'm walking down the street because I just don't look pregnant, at all, so it just looks like I'm grabbing my chub. So jealous of everyone I know that's preggo right now with lovely wee bumps and I'm just like envy

Mogz Thu 13-Jun-13 04:05:09

I feel your pain Futter, I really want a cute little bump but I just look bloated and a bit chubbier than normal. Mind you I am a slightly more, ahem, cuddly lady than some of the other pregnant women I know.

AuroraOrtiz Thu 13-Jun-13 06:48:33

Glad it's not just me getting a pain when sneezing! I shouted out at work after I sneezed the other day - got some funny looks. Hayfever is such a nightmare - keep sneezing on the middle of the night - DP not happy!

I'm jealous of all these bumps too - I want a bump! Have been eating continuously so have probably put on weight but no cute little bump.

Featherbag Thu 13-Jun-13 07:52:55

There's nothing cute about my bump, honest! I look ridiculous for 15 weeks!

Roselau Thu 13-Jun-13 07:57:16

Morning all!
I feel the uterus pain too - well I hope that's what it is. I feel it more in the evenings for some reason.
So this morning I woke up with a very full bladder, and I figured before I got up I would try to feel for my uterus, and I felt a really hard ball about 2 inches below my belly button. But I read that's way too high for it to be my uterus right now because i'm just 12.2 weeks. Then I went to pee and tried again and it was gone... So I'm guessing it was just my full bladder??? but I've never felt something like this before. weird.

Also I'm ready to punch in the face the next person who tells me that when they were pregnant they found it really easy to not drink because they just didn't feel like it. After a long stressful day at work, on my walk back I pass a few pubs and I keep dreaming of stealing someone's drink from a nearby table and running away. Am i crazy? What I wouldn't do for a nice glass of cold white wine in the evening....

On that note, I am 25 hours away from my scan - I just have to get through the day.....

Roselau Thu 13-Jun-13 07:59:15

oh and I feel all of you wanting a bump... weighed myself this morning and still 0 weight gain...

Featherbag Thu 13-Jun-13 08:21:30

Rose, you can have a glass of wine every now and then if you want to! From 12 weeks (same with last pregnancy), on a Friday night DH makes a big deal of going and selecting a really nice bottle of red, and I have precisely 2 units, whatever that works out as in ml. I look forward to that treat all week, especially as pre-pregnancy we'd just buy whatever was cheap!

ccsays Thu 13-Jun-13 08:38:18

Well, an hour till the 12 week scan and I keep throwing up, mostly due to nerves I think. Aieeeeeeeee, wish me luck! (And good luck to you froubylou!)

Roselau Thu 13-Jun-13 10:17:42

Featherbag I think you're right. It's one of our best friend's birthday on Saturday, and if all is good on the scan, I think I will allow myself a couple of celebratory sips. after 3 months with no alcohol, I think one sip will get me wasted!
I'm no alcoholic, but I like my daily glass (ok occasionally bottle) of wine. My mom's theory on the fact that I'm not gaining weight is that booze used to be such a big part of my diet and I cut out a lot of calories by not drinking. hm she knows me too well.

Holly1977 Thu 13-Jun-13 10:54:40

I've been getting a bit of pain when sneezing too, and also just random pains. I think some of that is because my constipation is back with a vengeance. I've tried to avoid using Lactulose because of the hideous farting but have had to the last 2 evenings with the expected results. Can't even use it during the day as I'm at work! The other problem is it makes me thirsty so I have to drink more which means even more night time trips to the loo. And sometimes the farting wakes me up too! blush I know drinking more water is good but then same problem re peeing in the night. Not sure fibre sachets are advisable because I have colitis so I guess I'll just have to put up with the farting. I actually don't mind so much but OH gets a bit shirty about it which I think is VERY unreasonable. Should I post about it in AIBU?! I'm told farting becomes almost uncontrollable later on so he's just going to have to get used to it isn't he?!

I'm jealous of people with proper bumps too, glad that's not just me. Was starting to think I'm a horrible person. When ttc I was jealous of all pg people, now I'm jealous of people who are more pg than me!

Went to pg yoga last night. It was amazing, can't recommend it highly enough. A bit hippy dippy I suppose but I like all that shit and it was just soooo relaxing, felt wonderful afterwards. Though all the "connect with your baby" stuff seemed a bit odd and I kept wanting to cry. I think because I STILL don't really think I'm having a baby. Really hope reality hits home at some point before it pops out! So yeah anyway if anyone's in my area, happy to recommend my pg yoga woman. If not, find someone local to you. Honestly, it's brilliant. 1.5 hours just for you and baby to relax and do some gentle exercises, all sitting or lying down. Mostly pelvic floor and arse.

Also went back to my proper yoga class on Monday which was brilliant. Bit frustrating as I'm not allowed to do a lot of the asanas but really enjoyable too.

Don't know if I mentioned but our nuchal scan measurement was 1.1. Should be getting the combined blood results in the next few days. Must say I'm impressed with our hospital. They just book you in for the 20 weeks scan when you're there and were even able to offer me a 5.30 appointment so less stress getting there next time!

OH wants to find out the gender now and I must say I'm leaning that way too. Maybe it'll make it more real and my mum is just desperate to know so she can go properly mad in the shops. She has a properly serious shopping addiction, she buys stuff for people's kids she's never even met. So we all knew when this day finally came she'd go bat shit mental and if we know what flavour it is, she can really go for it. Plus maybe it'll make it more real for me knowing if it's Sebastian or Isabel in there. I just feel a bit embarrassed cos I was so adamant we wouldn't find out...

Futterby Thu 13-Jun-13 11:06:38

I declined the screening for down's syndrome (I'm having the baby either way and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference whether it had down's )which means the ultrasound tech didn't measure our lo's nuchal thing but I'm wishing I had asked now, I'm just so curious!

Aurora, just be glad it was only your sneezing waking him up! I woke up last night going "AAH FUCK" because my DP had elbowed me in the face while he was sleeping shock

Holly you could get the tech to write it down and fold it up or something, that way you would be able to not look if you wanted but it would be there if you really wanted, iyswim?

ccsays I know you'll be finished by now but good luck anyway!

Featherbag Thu 13-Jun-13 11:30:22

Oh my god I am SUCH AN ARSE!!! Just sold all of my old maternity clothes on eBay to fund buying new stuff as I'm 2 sizes smaller than last time. Thought I'd transfer it to my bank account on way to the gym as the transfer takes 2 hours and I thought after the gym I could go on a shopping spree. I've only gone and transferred it all to the wrong sodding account! I've sent it to my old student account, which is still heftily overdrawn and I have a payment plan on. So I can't get it back, and now after all the hassle of selling and posting loads of stuff, I still have zero money for new maternity clothes. I'm having to wear yoga pants and DH's t-shirts when I'm not at work as nothing else fits, and now it's going to be at least another month before I can afford to buy anything. And the worst thing is it's my own fault, although I have no idea why PayPal reverted back to that account as the default, I haven't used it in nearly 4 years. I'm really, really gutted hmm

ccsays Thu 13-Jun-13 11:35:39

Morning all! Scan went fine, but they weren't able to do the down's screening as the baby was upside down and no amount of star jumps (seriously) would convince it to move! Got a blood screening test at sixteen weeks though.

Also I just put it on Facebook saying I'd like to put myself forward for the new Doctor as I have two hearts. [geeky] blush

Futterby Thu 13-Jun-13 11:43:28

Glad it went well ccsays!

Aw Featherbag that's so unlucky sad I feel your pain with the leggings and dp's tops though. I can't afford to buy maternity clothes and I hate hate hate being stuck in leggings all the bloody time. I have a massive arse too so I must blind a few people when I go out in public.

Gooseysgirl Thu 13-Jun-13 11:47:50

Hi everyone, keep losing the thread as I access it from my phone!! The button on my work trousers would not close this morning so I've dug out my bump band... oh the relief grin Got it in Topshop during last pregnancy and found it great for the in-between stage of not being big enough for mat clothes but normal clothes getting too tight. We will be finding out the gender again this time, I loved knowing last time but this time wouldn't mind a surprise - however DH says he would like to know so we are going to find out hopefully at 20 week scan. I say 'hopefully' as I'm not sure what our hospital's policy is on letting parents know the gender. Some hospitals are a bit funny about it... Am sooo wrecked at the moment, poor DD is cutting her molars so we are having busy nights!! Chicken pox is doing the rounds at her nursery so we are on the look out for the spots at the moment, oh the joys!!

Gooseysgirl Thu 13-Jun-13 11:50:10

Featherbag what a NIGHTMARE!! Get a bump band if you don't already have one..

TakingTheStairs Thu 13-Jun-13 12:24:11

I am so jealous of those of you that have only put on 6 or 7lbs.. and even more jealous of those that have put on nothing. I am up to a stone now sad
Though I am 15 wks. Thankfully feeling well enough to not have to eat in circles anymore, so hopefully it will all even out.
I have my 16 (+3) scan on Sat of next week and my consultant thinks she should be able to tell me whether we're having a boy or a girl. YAY! I will be VERY surprised if it's a boy, I'm so convinced it's a girl.

Alyssa1978 Thu 13-Jun-13 12:29:51


Me and DF are not sure about finding out the sex, so we are getting the tech to write in onto a piece of paper and seal it in an envolope we are taking, that way if we decide later we want to know, then we can open it together.

froubylou Thu 13-Jun-13 12:34:07

Morning all


Scan was brilliant. Little baby dancing around in there. Put me at 12+6 which gives me a new DD of 20/12 not that baby will know though lol. BF started filling up bless her. She doesn't have her own kids and no partner and is 40 now so probably missed her chance but shes heavily involved with my DD so will be with this one too I expect.

Futter, I haven't had the screening done either hun. The sonographer (is that what they are called?) did ask me about it and asked me why but not in an aggressive sort of way. When I explained that I wouldn't have any invasive tests done either way so no point being given a number he was lovely and said it was 100% the right way to be. But he did do a sneaky measurement in the Nuchal fold thing and said it was all absolutly normal and no reaosn for him to recommend any further tests so feel very reassured. I presume if they see something alarming (like a missing nasal bone or very thick fold) they would be obliged to point it out to you.

Feathers what a nightmare hun. I've done stuff like that before and you really could bloody cry. Is there any chance you could ring paypal and ask them to recall the payment? Might be worth a try if you do it today.

Ccsays, glad all went well at your scan too. Not long now for yours feathers xx

Holly, I was in denial all way through with first PGy. Though I knew and accepted I was pregnant it was a shock and I think I just blanked it out. You'll get used to the idea but make sure you do enjoy this PG too. I feel like I missed out on some of mine.

And the farting thing. I'm at it too lol. OH very shocked and disgusted that I do fart. But its tough. I wouldn't mind if he held back but he had a stoma fitted 18 months ago (long story) so in effect, farts through just left of his belly button. So no need for anyone to be prudish in our house lol. With regards to the constipation now I'm over 12 weeks I think its the prenatal vits that make me backed up. Am going to miss a couple of days to see if that gets things moving now we don't have to worry so much about the first 12 weeks and the folic acid thing.

If we are all constipated it will slow us down eating and digesting food properly which will mean that all the vits in the world we shove down our necks won't make any difference if we aren't absorbing them properly.

I'll probably miss 2 days and shit my pants lol. http://cdnmn.com/emo/te/9.gif

froubylou Thu 13-Jun-13 12:34:27

Dunno what that random link is?

ccsays Thu 13-Jun-13 12:40:46

I'm 12 + 6 too, froubylou smile

Roselau Thu 13-Jun-13 13:16:18

Amazing news on the scans ladies! i can't help it, i need to get the nuchal done. i just need to know. i'm so bad, i would probably do the invasive test as well even with the risks. I just don't like uncertainty.
Anyways, let's hope it's a non-issue. scan is 20 hours away and this has already felt like the longest day of my life.

on a side note - any thoughts on where to get a proper maternity bathing suit in London? my boobs, which are already large, have gotten way bigger (we're talking 30G) so none of my bathing suit fit even with no weight gain. I have a really small frame so it's really hard to find anything even when i was not pregnant. I would like something that will stretch to last me the summer - a one piece preferably. Any ideas?

mumoftwoboysS Thu 13-Jun-13 14:04:04

wow, lots of catching up to do so sorry if I don't mention all personally.

but Roselau I got my maternity swimsuit from Mamas and Papas and it's washed really well through 2 pregnancies and I'll be using it again. Not sure re big bust tho as I'm the opposite!!

Finally got some shorts! Found some in Matalan, good cheap ones (a tad on the short side) with stretchy band and tie. Now looking at the forecast in France, thinking I probably won't need the bloody things anyway!

question about maternity/bump bands- are they to cover your tum if your t-shirt is too short or to cover the top of trousers etc? Ive never used them before- do you use them so you can undo buttons/zips on trousers but cover them up?

annoyingly I've got 3 pairs of maternity jeans but all are over the bump ones so i've got nothing that I can wear in this inbetween stage, so it's either buy an under the bump pair to wear for a month or so or have my zip undone which I think it going to look pretty unsightly?? And the risk of showing the world my knickers...

great news on all the scans!! So happy/jealous grin 3 1/2 days to go for mine!!....

Dusty04 Thu 13-Jun-13 14:34:42

Just came back from our 12 week scan, alls good. Baby was really wriggly moving around loads and took ages to get measurements! Sonographer had me turning on my side, to try to make baby turn the way she needed.. Eventually had to empty my bladder to get the measurements. Such a lovely feeling to see it all on screen. Now the wait for the screening results!

abcdemma Thu 13-Jun-13 14:45:04

Lovely news on all the scans and tests smile
Definitely considering one of those maternity bands to put in my jeans, having to undo top button when sitting down is a right nightmare! Never even thought of them till reading the bounty mag this morning (which, by the way, is scary! All these things to consider when buying prams/cots etc is just too much!)
16w appointment next week to get bloods done & hopefully heartbeat :D

Holly1977 Thu 13-Jun-13 15:02:54

Mumof2, the band things are to cover up and keep closed the tops of trousers that you can no longer fasten. Much less of a faff than bobbles and extenders. Apparently they're also good for when your bump gets big as a support. But yes I suppose they'd be good for that too. Unless it's the EXACT same colour as your top though, you'll be able to tell. Have you tried folding the over bump bit down on your jeans? That seems to work ok as long as you've got a long baggy ish top on. Under bump jeans were the best thing I ever bought and I flukily got a pair of like £4 on ebay. Worth a try.

Fabby news on the scan Frouby, congrats! grin

The annoying thing is that he farts loads and they stink. Which is fine, everyone farts and shits, even the queen. What bugs me is that it's one rule for him and one rule for me. Oh well, he's just going to have to deal with it cos it's only going to get worse. I suppose it doesn't help that I make such a big thing about it when I do fart but it's often SUCH a relief I can't help but groan with pleasure!

Must say I'm not enjoying pg too much at this point, it just feels like a big restriction on what I can do for no reason. I know there's a reason, obviously. But for whatever reason my brain can't come to terms with the fact I'm having a flipping baby so I just feel put out at all the things I can't do, eat and drink! Maybe I need to start knitting. Or maybe all the connecting with my baby at yoga will do the trick. Fuck knows! I cried at an advert the other day about mums or something and freaked out about the fact I'm going to be a mum! I think I still see myself as a carefree 21 year old rather than the responsible (erm..!) 35 year old that I actually am, or should be anyway!

Didn't know the pg vits can cause constipation, bloody hell. Right, giving them a rest for now. Thought they were pointless after 12 weeks. I eat a balanced diet, I don't need more vitamins imho.

TakingTheStairs Thu 13-Jun-13 15:03:22

GAp have up to 40% off some of their maternity range if anyone is interested.
Lovely shorts (which I bought 2 wks ago at full price and haven't even worn yet) are reduced to £14.99
Jeans reduces to £24.99 and they have vest tops & t-shirts for £6.99 smile

Hi everyone <grump coming up>

just had my 16 week midwife appointment, first she didn't listen to heartbeat, said they don't do that until next appointment at 22 weeks but then I've also been moved from the green pathway to the amber one as DD was small when she was born. Have to have an extra scan at 28 weeks to see how baby is growing then they'll decide after that if I can still give birth in the midwife led unit or whether I'll have to go to the main hospital bit.

Sorry rant over, glad to hear about everyones scans!

mumoftwoboysS Thu 13-Jun-13 17:33:01

thanks Holly may try bump bands- or see if my over the bump jeans work folded down. Thing I found in my last pregnancies was that as soon as I had a decent bump the under the bump jeans weren't comfy- they dug in so I could only wear the over the bump ones - but they're useless for now! Tried those extenders and find they just keep popping open, rubbish.

clare has the change for listening to the heartbeat been done across the country? I thought it was definitely the 16 week appointment, how rubbish.

must be frustrating moving to the amber pathway but look on the birght side, at least you get an extra scan? and just because your last baby was small doesn't mean this one will be.

both mine were on the small side (6lb 8 and 6lb10) but I don't know what is classed as too small? Some people just have small babies! (or maybe I had too much caffeine as I couldn't kick my coffee habit grin

2Labradors Thu 13-Jun-13 17:37:00

Lovely to hear about the exciting scans

We were going to pay for a private scan around now to find out what sex baby is, but my 20 week scan (will actually be 19 weeks +3) is just over 3 weeks away and I can't justify spending £80+ which seems to be going rate around here. Bloody car's got to go in the garage tomorrow as it's sick so expecting a hefty bill!

If they can't tell at 20 week scan though (as happened with my DD) then we will invest in going for a sexing scan. Will have had another pay day by then.

clare sorry they didn't listen for heart beat today, maybe it's because they don't want to worry you unnecessarily if they can't find it. I've got my 16 week midwife appointment tomorrow.

My mum & daughter have bought a Doppler from a friend for me but I've been too scared to use it, I'm scared I won't find the heart beat and then worry about it. If the midwife does listen tomorrow then I might give it a try myself.

LadyMedea Thu 13-Jun-13 17:43:08

Arse. Forgot my keys so sat in porch waiting for OH to get home. Probably another 30mins at least. My coccyxis killing me and I really need a wee! Please let the nice neigjbours get home soon!

kyz1981 Thu 13-Jun-13 17:48:52

clare8allthepies I am in a similar situation - under consultant care due to problems in 1st Pg had none in my 2nd but they still feel the need to give me loads of appointments.

Because my DS was born on the 3rd centile (small being 6lb 6 oz at 40 weeks so not tiny)- I am having all the growth measurements taken, However I am pretty certain I will have a good shot at being able to deliver in a Midwife unit- I will be choosing one that has the medical ward on the same site as in both my previous births I have needed my waters breaking by Drs, as I was fully dilated but both dd and dd were to high up for the midwife to do it. Small is classed as any baby born under the 10th centile.

Featherbag Thu 13-Jun-13 17:54:11

The MWs here never listen for hb at the 16 week appointment, when I asked why last time I was told its because of the stress caused to both mum and MW if they can't find it, which happens often at that early stage. So they stopped doing it altogether, which I can understand!

Thanks everyone, I'm sure it's nothing to worry about, extra checks can't be a bad thing and you're right it does mean an extra scan! Think I just had the hump this afternoon! blush
DD was 6 pounds and half an ounce, didn't think it was that small (me and my siblings were all 6 pounders) so was a surprise to hear that she was just the 2nd centile.
Right off to bid on maternity gear on eBay so none of you lot better outbid me! grin

Dasie Thu 13-Jun-13 21:25:51

Lady hope you made it to the loo in time!

Congrats on all the happy scans grin

Anyone else experiencing Braxton Hicks yet? I'm 15 + 5 and have noticed over the last few days I get a very tight tummy from time to time! Don't mind a bit of practice but didn't realise it could happen so early on! shock

MrsShrubs Thu 13-Jun-13 22:32:32

Hi everyone, is it ok if I join? Brand new to mums net. I'm 13+5 due 14th December.

violetbean Fri 14-Jun-13 05:10:47

Welcome MrsShrubs!

Woke up hideously early with scan nerves today. 6 hours to go.

I'm going to try to get a bump band too, they sound great. Currently surviving on a pair of black under-bump trousers and a pair of over-bump jeans, both from New Look. Generally roll down the over-bump bit and they are ok. Tops are becoming a problem so definitely need to get the bump band asap.

Bought a v-shaped pillow in Argos for a tenner the other day and have been using it to feel more comfy in bed (sort of hugging it). Totally brilliant!

Hope all well. Thinking of you.

AuroraOrtiz Fri 14-Jun-13 05:41:17

Good luck with your scan today violetbean!

froubylou Fri 14-Jun-13 07:25:13

Hello MrsShrubs.

Violet it will all be fine lovely. You will be transfixed by the little moving picture of your bean and won't be able to take your eyes of it. Let us know when you are back.

Claire, Im having extra scans too. yay! Only because DD was small at 5lbs 12oz. I know why she was small and it was because I didn't eat enough and I didn't rest enough whilst I was carrying and was also very stressed. Not the case this time but it will be very nice to see baby at 28 weeks, 32 weeks and 36 weeks. Long time I think between 20 week scan and the actual birth. And at least if baby shy at 20 week scan we should still be able to find out sex at 28 week one.

Glad I had my scan yesterday though as this morning my 'bump' seems to have disappeared. Could be the eyewateringly big poo (TMI? sorry lol) I managed to part with yesterday afternoon. Think its a combination of dropping vits for a couple of days and the relief of the scan being fine. So holding off on maternity clothes for a week or 2 I think. Jeggings are my friend lol.

Roselau Fri 14-Jun-13 07:35:23

Violet I'm with you. Scan is in two hours, I woke up overnight every half hour. Still no sign of a bump, still not budge on the scale. my mom was worried over the phone last night that I STILL haven't gained an ounce (i'm 12 and a half weeks) so she got me even more freaked out.
Please cross fingers and everything!!!

Alyssa1978 Fri 14-Jun-13 07:48:53

Good luck on your scans everyone.
I have a consultant appt Monday to see if she wants to throw in any extra growth scans as ds1 was 5lbs 6oz but there was a lot going on and I was very stressed etc with really bad sickness throughout entire pregnancy, ds2 was completely different however weighing in at 7lbs 5oz lol.

I caved yesterday and ordered a Doppler.

MildredH Fri 14-Jun-13 08:36:53

Good luck violet & rose- hoping all is fine then you can enjoy the magic of watching your bean bounce around on the screen!

Alyssa- which one did you go for? I'm still undecided ( tho will almost certainly cave too- just a matter of when!)

I'm seeing the gp about my reflux this morning - thinking of asking him to use Doppler.. Don't know if he'd be happy to?

merr Fri 14-Jun-13 08:55:28

Morning December ladies,

Good luck today Rose and Violet, mines at 11 so bit longer of feelling terrified... Fingers croseed and hopefully all will go to plan for us all.

Regarding bump bands, I buy the cheap (£1.50) cami tops from primark, they are super streachy and at the moment at 5' 6 come down to my bum covering up the big gap forming between my tshirts and jeans! I used them last time as well in a load of different colours and it worked a treat

mumoftwoboysS Fri 14-Jun-13 09:46:17

Good luck on your scans today violet, rose and merr!

So regarding small babies- I don't know what percentile 6lbs 8oz is (I could look in the little red book I suppose) just wondering if my first ds was classed as a 'small' baby then- they certainly didn't mention anything to me and I didn't get any special treatment for my 2nd?

tried on my over the bump jeans and surprised that one pair fit me despite my lack of bump- yay! will save a few pennies being able to wear them already then.

only 3 days till my scan...yay!...

mumoftwoboysS Fri 14-Jun-13 09:47:40

seeing old school friends on saturday that i haven't seen in a year...2 days before my scan. Don't know whether to tell them (probably won't see them for another year!) I'll probably be showing a bit so they'll probably wonder anyway....bit of a dilemma...

Gannetgob Fri 14-Jun-13 10:16:02

Good luck everyone with scans today - hope they all go well!

I am furious this morning. I'm not teaching so I'm hiding in a little office which is never used to calm down a bit.

A woman I work with is a twat. She thinks she's the dogs bollocks. She knows everything about everything and is so patronising because she has been teaching longer than me (by a whole 2 years!)

She has been really off with me this week and I didn't know why. I've found out its because I was asked to do something and she wasn't. (I don't particularly want to do this thing - it's having a student in with me for 3 lessons next week - i am more than happy to share the student!) However, she doesn't teach in the lessons the student is coming in because she normally has year 11 but they have obviously left now.

She has gone to our line manager to complain that I am hogging the student. Obviously, I'm not. I was asked because I will be teaching. I also heard her moaning to a receptionist about it all this morning. She has also blanked me this morning then went on to tell another teacher in the same room that she is ok but she's angry with something but the person will be 'dealt with' this morning.

So I've been called in to explain myself. It's so ridiculous. It's school girl stuff. She's nearly 60 for fucks sake!

To sum up, my line manager agreed that I wasn't at fault and my head of dept knows she's a crazy bitch so there's no worry about anything in that respect.

It's just a pathetic situation that could have been avoided if she had spoken to me or the head of dept about it rather than getting SLT involved.

It's just the latest in a long line of things. Someone left at Easter, without another job to go to, because they couldn't put up with her anymore.

On the bright side, I'll finish at the end of October and then we think she's retiring in feb so I won't have to put up with it for long!

Sorry, such a long moan. Reading it back it seems a really pathetic thing to be annoyed about. Sorry!

kyz1981 Fri 14-Jun-13 11:21:13

mumoftwoboysS When my DS was born, I was never told he was small and we were home in less than 24hrs. I had a big discussion with the head midwife about DS being small as it came as a shock. It is quite a new thing they have introduced.
Since my DS has been born 33 months ago, things seem to have changed a lot. With this Preg, I have had to have a cervical scan due to laser treatment at the age of 18- despite having two full term PG after the treatment, I have to take low dose asprin due to high BP and other PE symptoms in my 1st PG. Its completely shocked me how many consultant appointments I have to attend because of the new policy's.

violetbean Fri 14-Jun-13 11:55:21

I'm in the hospital, scan good, baby there with clear heartbeat, only thing is, he/she is facing the wrong way! Am sitting in the waiting room drinking tonnes of water and eating chocolate to try to get baby to move round so they can get dating measurements. Hope other scans going well.

violetbean Fri 14-Jun-13 11:58:16

PS, gannet, your colleague sounds awful, lucky she's off soon! Well done for keeping calm.

Gannetgob Fri 14-Jun-13 12:21:17

Have they managed to get what they need yet violet? Glad everything is ok otherwise.

Sorry for completely off topic rant earlier. Hubby wasn't answering his phone, so you lot got it I'm afraid.

Mum, I think you should tell your friends - it's great to talk about and if you aren't going to see them for some time it might be nice!

I caved and bought some sleep suits for the baby yesterday. We weren't going to until 20 weeks but I just wanted to. Just a little thing but I such a big grin buying it. Anybody else bought anything else recently?

Alyssa1978 Fri 14-Jun-13 12:33:53


I went for the £39.99 one from costmad-UK from the Amazon website, it comes with 25ml of gel but I ordered another 250ml for only a couple of ££. I ordered yesterday but then went for express delivery and its being delivered this afternoon, I can't wait lol grin

NomDeClavier Fri 14-Jun-13 12:36:44

Hope scans all go well today. I can't believe some of you are up to 16/17 weeks. That seems aaaages away. And reminds me I need to sort out MW appointments.

Mine was fine yesterday except they couldn't get the NT measurement so I have to go back Tuesday again. 2nd trimester scan is August 12 and pud had better behave because it's sandwiched on the one day we're here between visiting PILs and my parents! Still have 24/12 as the EDD...

For those stressing about no weight gain I have none either. With DS I didn't gain until 24 weeks, he was 8lb4 so not small by any measure! I know I'm not going to put any thing on my boobs cos I'm still BFing DS and the blood volume and tiny amount that is baby is probably offset by the fact I've not really wanted to eat half the time.

Roselau Fri 14-Jun-13 13:04:15

Hi all! thanks for all the well wishes. the scan went really well. they actually just made me wait an hour and got me all the results of the tests / downs etc with the blood test results. all of it came out very good so we wont be going for further investigations.

baby was swimming around happily and technician was getting annoyed because she couldn't get it to stop moving. it was so cute.

we are over the moon and finally can tell all our friends. it is such a good feeling. i hope all of you still waiting on the scan get the same experience

doctor didn't seem worried that i have not yet gained weight. so i treated myself to another croissant and stopped worrying about it for the moment smile


MrsShrubs Fri 14-Jun-13 13:08:42

I was going to wait until buying things too Gannetgob but after the scan last week I got excited and bought 4 onsies! The MIL has been buying things in for the last month, everytime I see her she has bought something else - abc blocks (already!) a teething rattle, sleeper suits, shampoos, travel cot! It's safe to say as it's the first grandchild she has gotten a tad carried away. I might have to try and reign her in at some point though as there are things we'd quite like to pick out ourselves. Anyone elses in laws or parents this way too?

Hope everyone's scans go well today.

Roselau Fri 14-Jun-13 13:21:22

my mil bought kiddie boots 2 years ago as my wedding shower present........ so she's been already buying stuff for the last 2 years (pressure, much?), and now that she knows i'm preggers, she's gone completely nuts

MrsShrubs Fri 14-Jun-13 13:31:43

Glad it's not just mine then Roselau, I think yours is probably worse if it's been going on for 2 years! I get on with her really well and she's lovely but I think the excitement has most definitely gone to her head, which I can understand but I hope she doesn't take it too far and buy us a pram or moses basket or something without talking to us first. Babygrows and bibs and bits like that are great because you will fly through so many of them but there are things you'd like to pick out yourself.

froubylou Fri 14-Jun-13 14:32:01

Wish my mum would buy loads of stuff lol. Shes not very well off and I think this will be the 10th grandchild so the novelty worn off by now.

Anyone who thinks their mums or MIL's are going to be a bit silly should suggest a shopping trip together to 'research' prams and stuff. That way they get to be involved but you can tell them which one you want. and if they offer to buy it thats fine as long as it is the one you have chosen. And if not at least they will have been involved and hopefully know a bit more about what sort of stuff you like.

And if anyone wants to send an overexcited granny my way who wants to buy things feel free lol. It is nice to buy things though I agree.

Glad all the scans went well.

Had my hair coloured today for first time since being PG. Its gone a bit ginger at the roots lol and it doesn't usually. Hairdresser reckons its the hair thats grown since I got PG that has reacted funny. I don't think its too bad TBH so am going to see how I get on with it over the weekend and if not happy she'll do it again. .

I want to start buying stuff too lol. But really need to sort out all the crap the 3 of us have littered around the house before I start buying for a 4th person!

PistachioTruffle Fri 14-Jun-13 15:10:23

My sister was so excited when she found out that she got us a really cute card and two sleep suits, it was so sweet of her! My mum has bought a little hat and cant wait to find out what it is so she can get more, and PIL have offered to buy the pram, which is really kind of them. I'm similar to Frouby though, we need to clear some space before we start bringing more stuff into the house! I think otherwise buying in earnest will start after the 20 week scan, though I want to get it done quite soon as I don't fancy battling Christmas shoppers with a huge bump!
I could never be one of those people who breezily says 'oh, I just bought a pack of sleepsuits and nappies at 39 weeks, I didn't see the point in doing it before'. I need to be organised grin

FluffyDucky Fri 14-Jun-13 15:34:26

Hi all. We had our amnio test this morning and got very bad news sadly. There is something very wrong with our baby, there is a lot of fluid around the brain, bowel and ribs and it is not going to survive, although there is a heartbeat at the moment. Apparently this often gets detected at 20 weeks when there is no heartbeat. We had the test done and will get the results on Tuesday to find out a bit more but we are likely going to have a termination as I could miscarry tomorrow, next week or next month, they just don't know.
It could be downs, a chromosome problem or a virus that was somehow transmitted. For some reason my bloods that were taken after the booking in never made it to the lab for the virus checks etc so they have done them again.
We are both really numb and pretty cut up, the consultant and midwife were amazing. Just got to get through the weekend now and Monday.

Holly1977 Fri 14-Jun-13 15:38:36

I caved and bought an adorable hungry little caterpillar 4 piece set from TK Maxx. Was in there buying stuff for my goddaughter's 1st bday tomorrow so couldn't resist! Also randomly bought my friend who I'm seeing tomorrow something for her wee boy. The thing I bought is for 3-6 months but it was too perfect to pass up. It's made my mind up though, I'm going to find out the gender after all. Make way for a massive u-turn! Thing is, there's not that much gender neutral stuff out there and buying baby clothes is just too much fun, it's really cheered me up today after being on a bit of a downer. So yeah, that's decided. Might let OH stew for a bit longer and see if I can get him to give me any massages or do any other favours as incentive to "change my mind". And yes I am evil, I know. Serves him right for giving me a hard time for farting!

I think my mum will probably buy us the big stuff like bedside cot, pram etc. I have no problem with this though would obviously like to be consulted ideally. Though not if it means spending more than a couple of hours shopping with her, she's a nightmare!

Congrats on the good scans everyone, we'll all have had them soon.

Am planning a major pamper session tonight as I'm feeling a bit frazzled with work and some other stuff. Normally on a Friday I'd get stuck into a bottle of something alcoholic but as that's no longer an option, a Lush pampering session will have to do.

Oh, I also bought a teddy bear "for the baby" definitely not for me and won't be in bed with me tonight or anything

Featherbag Fri 14-Jun-13 15:41:30

Oh Fluffy, I'm so, so sorry to hear your news. I don't know what else to say, but I'll be thinking of you.

yogafan Fri 14-Jun-13 15:47:12

Oh fluffy, I am so so sorry to hear that. I would love to give you a hug right now, I hope you and your DP can take the time you need to process this and be there for each other. Be kind to yourself. Life can be so cruel, but there will be brighter times around the corner. Sounds like you gave a rough week ahead of you, come here for support as much as you need, and have you been directed to any other groups for info/support for women who are going through similar? Big big hugs for you, I am so sorry xx

kyz1981 Fri 14-Jun-13 16:01:34

Fluffy, so so sorry to hear your news. you are in my thoughts xx

TakingTheStairs Fri 14-Jun-13 16:03:57

fluffy I'm so sorry. It must have been very difficult to hear that news.

violetbean Fri 14-Jun-13 16:28:37

Fluffy, I'm so sorry. I hope you have lots of support and can give yourself some time to grieve. thanks

Thinking of you.

b0nker5Mum Fri 14-Jun-13 17:24:38

So sorry fluffy, take care of yourself...


NomDeClavier Fri 14-Jun-13 17:48:25

I'm so sorry fluffy sad I can't imagine how you must be feeling now.

Do look after yourself and take it easy - don't feel guilty about just blocking the world out while your process it all.

I hope the bloods give you some answers and the hospital staff continue to be supportive and helpful.

mumoftwoboysS Fri 14-Jun-13 17:54:27

fluffy I'm so sorry, how awful to have to go through this. You said amnio, I tried looking back through the posts but couldn't see, did you have a scan that showed up something previously then? So sorry, is this your first? It sounds like you're just very unlucky sad take care of yourself and don't think for one second anything you have done could have caused this (us women are good at putting blame on ourselves) it sounds like just one of those unfortunate things that is out of your control. Take it easy and make sure you take all offers from friends/family to help you through this

13loki Fri 14-Jun-13 17:55:48

So sorry fluffy

Roselau Fri 14-Jun-13 18:42:06

fluffy I'm so sorry to hear your news. It's so sad. Take care of yourself xo

PistachioTruffle Fri 14-Jun-13 18:55:55

Oh Fluffy, I'm so, so sorry. Take good care of yourself. flowers

Dasie Fri 14-Jun-13 19:32:13

Fluffy that is such very sad news. I hope you have lots of support and your loved ones around you to help you both get through this. x

Futterby Fri 14-Jun-13 19:48:56

So, so sorry to hear that fluffy flowers take good care of yourself flowers x

2Labradors Fri 14-Jun-13 19:58:26

fluffy I'm so sorry to hear your news. Take care of yourself x

merr Fri 14-Jun-13 20:25:03

Fluffy, I've tried to type something about 5 times, but just can't find the right words.
Take care of yourself and your dp, I hope you get some answers. x

froubylou Fri 14-Jun-13 20:54:06

Oh God Fluffy. How shocking and awful for you. Biggest, biggest hugs to you and your DP.

I don't know what else to say other than be kind to yourself and your DP and make sure you get all the help you can get. xxx

Alyssa1978 Fri 14-Jun-13 20:59:48

Fluffy, I'm so sad to hear that, take good care of yourself xx

AuroraOrtiz Fri 14-Jun-13 22:11:36

Fluffy, am so sorry to hear such sad news. Take care of eachother. xxx

MildredH Sat 15-Jun-13 00:26:17

Fluffy- so sad to hear your news. I hope the coming weeks are as ok as they possibly can be. You're in my thoughts. X

Gooseysgirl Sat 15-Jun-13 07:22:08

That's very sad news Fluffy, I'm so very sorry sad

weechops Sat 15-Jun-13 09:09:14

Fluffy I'm so so sorry to hear your sad news. I'm thinking of you. Big big hugs my love xxx

abcdemma Sat 15-Jun-13 09:52:08

Fluffy so incredibly sorry to read your news, thinking of you both xx

QueenofWhispers Sat 15-Jun-13 10:17:39


I am terribly sorry and sad to hear your news. I hope you and your dh/partner are surrounded by comfort and warmth through this tough time. x

confused123 Sat 15-Jun-13 20:45:08

Fluffy, I'm so sorry to hear your news, hugs xx

violetbean Sun 16-Jun-13 08:37:42

Happy fathers' day everyone, are you mentioning to DP/DH? I said it this morning when getting up but think DH was fast asleep :-)

QueenofWhispers Sun 16-Jun-13 09:10:28

Happy Fathers Day smile

I was going to mention it to DH but he's been not so nice to me lately.

We've been arguing more and more lately and I just don't know what to do.

having said that, he's just brought me breakfast in bed.

QueenofWhispers Sun 16-Jun-13 09:20:35

i feel like the ultimate douche.

LadyMedea Sun 16-Jun-13 09:21:43

Don't feel like douche

QueenofWhispers Sun 16-Jun-13 09:49:30

I'll try not to. So whats happening girlfriends? (saying this with my texan accent)

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 10:26:15

I have a bump! It's loud, it's proud and it's demanding a seat on the bus. Love it! Now to get DP to help me paint my toenails...

musiceverywhere Sun 16-Jun-13 10:54:52

So sorry to hear your sad news fluffy, must be an awful shock. Hope you've got lots of support and look after yourself. Thinking of you.
I need some hand holding ladies, just arrived on holiday yesterday, this morning had episode of quite heavy bright red bleeding. No pain though. Am terrified. DH gone to find any shop that's open on a Sunday (in France!) as haven't brought any pads. We're 40 mins from nearest hospital. Am sat writing down key words from French dictionary in case we need to go. Was so happy last night, now so scared. Why here/now?!

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 11:29:29

Holding your hand music flowers

musiceverywhere Sun 16-Jun-13 12:21:21

Thanks. He's back, not a single shop, petrol station, pharmacy open within 40 mins drive hmm Have to 'make do' with loo roll for now. Bleeding hasn't continued after that one episode, so just have to hope for best. And spend first day of holiday obsessively knicker checking.

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 15:48:18

That's awful sad hopefully it stays off, how long are you on holiday for?

MildredH Sun 16-Jun-13 16:00:36

Sorry to hear that music.. The fact it's stopped must be positive..

Are you able to see someone tomo for reassurance? Even a GP who could doppler you?

I hope you're able to relax a bit and enjoy despite the worry.

musiceverywhere Sun 16-Jun-13 16:17:49

We're here for another 9 days, my parents joining us tomorrow. I don't know how healthcare system works here- would a GP be private and therefore I wouldn't be covered by my EHI card? Keep hoping it was just a small blood vessel that's burst. I've had lletz treatment on my cervix before, not sure if that could be related. If anything else happens we'll go to hospital. If worst case scenario and it is a miscarriage, is it going to require medical intervention at 14 wks? Not sure if they would recommend just managing it on own at home? Wasn't there a poster on here from France? I am just trying to relax and rest, reading in sunshine (and going to loo to check every 30 mins) hmm

Roselau Sun 16-Jun-13 16:45:25

music have you tried calling your travel insurance provider to see how / if they will cover the medical visit?

i hope everything works out keep us posted!

Holly1977 Sun 16-Jun-13 19:09:35

Sorry to hear that music, I'm sure it'll be ok. The occasional spot of blood is normal I think? I've had a tiny bit of blood this weekend, once after sex and earlier tonight when trying (and failing, sorry tmi) to do a poo!Literally just some on tp but no pain or different sensations at all. I read somewhere that being pg can kind of change your cervix or something. Anyway I'm genuinely not worried and from what you've said I don't think you need to be either. I know it's as anxious time though so hugs xx

I've been getting low back ache quite a lot n my right hip's hurting a bit. Have injured it many times in the past when I ran a lot so it's probably that. Don't know what excuse my stupid back has got though! Got physio letter through on Friday so hopefully can see them soon. Bit worried about having back ache for the next 6 months...

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 19:14:01

Was just about to say exactly that Holly smile if it helps, I had debilitating back pain from 7 - 11 weeks (couldn't walk some days) and one visit to the physio sorted me right out smile

Sure it's nothing to worry about music flowers you might want to relax and avoid dtd though, just in case flowers

AuroraOrtiz Sun 16-Jun-13 19:30:48

Fingers crossed for you music.

Am feeling really grumpy - spent the entire morning in A&E - got an eye infection - I woke up looking like I've been punched in the face! Am having to take antibiotic tablets three times a day for five days - I told the doctor I'm 12 weeks pregnant so he looked them up and it said 'not known to be harmful' - which doesn't sound as good as 'no risk' - what if 'not known' just means no one pregnant has taken them?! But I suppose they will be ok.

Also had the worst heart burn yesterday evening - at first I thought it might be my bra but I took it off and was still in agony for hours. I don't normally get it - is anyone else getting it? I thought it was something you got late on in pregnancy - not this early?

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 19:52:05

[Aurora], sometimes that happens because they can't test medicines on pregnant woman because it's unethical, but they wouldn't give you it if it was unsafe. You'll be fine smile I had heartburn early on but not now, I got this gloopy white liquid from the docs that smelled lovely and minty but actually tasted like phlegm so I gave it a bye confused

AuroraOrtiz Sun 16-Jun-13 20:05:57

Thanks futterby - am a bit scared now! Guess I have to take it though. Sodding hayfever!!

Yuck phlegm medicine doesn't sound so great - maybe I'll see how it goes.

My sleep is all cocked up. Slept all through the tennis this afternoon. Keep sleeping in the day or early evenings when I'm at work, then I wake up at 3am. I try to keep awake but it's impossible. I am a terrible sleeper though anyway. Feel shattered.

abcdemma Sun 16-Jun-13 21:18:44

I'm the same sleep-wise, tossing and turning and waking up with a blocked nose. Trying not to sleep on front so am balancing on one hip to relieve the pressure on tummy but then hip hurts... can't win lol.
Wish I was big enough to shame people into giving me a seat on the train though. Had to stand up for an hour in the cramped entrance bit which was really warm and I felt awful sad Then when I got a seat I had to heave my bag onto the luggage rack above and felt my stomach pull a bit... not impressed. Looks like I've eaten all the pies at the mo. so me rubbing my stomach when I pulled it probably looked quite odd lol.
Rant over.
No heartburn just feel bloated and am burping like nobody's business, much to the dismay of my parents wink

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 21:56:45

Try a pillow between your legs and underneath your bump abc, works for me smile Mothercare sell long pillows that I've heard are awesome but I've not tried them myself :P I'm so farty instead of burpy (tmi, sorry wink), poor DP grin

PistachioTruffle Sun 16-Jun-13 22:18:20

I'm going to have fun now imagining all of Queen's posts in a Texan accent grin

I hear you on the sleep issues. I just cannot get comfortable. I've tried lying in my side with my top leg on a pillow, but my hip gets uncomfortable and my lower back is really sore. I feel like I need some sort of support at the back as well as the front.

Does anyone know about when the next MW appointment should be? She did tell me but I can't remember! Is it 16 weeks?

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 22:21:02

16 weeks pistachio smile got mine tomorrow grin

Can you tell I have no life? Never off mumsnet blush got a break between college and uni so I'm bored bored bored.

QueenofWhispers Sun 16-Jun-13 22:23:54

smile you should my accent is amazing...no one ever understands why an Indian Woman has a Texan accent. Especially when I'm really angry about something.

*so guys, I have some good new*

I had another scan yesterday and it turns out that the dx for a Single Umbilical Artery was a mistake and I've got a perfectly normal umbilical chord....they were also able to tell me the gender!!! I'm having a little girl!!!! I am ever soo excited.

Now I just have to pray that Kim Kardashian+Kanye West don't name their child anything normal before I start worrying about Kate Middleton stealing one of my chosen names. I honestly wish they were all having boys so that I wouldn't be worried about names.

PistachioTruffle Sun 16-Jun-13 22:24:00

Thanks Futter. I've got a serious case of pregnancy brain at the minute!

PistachioTruffle Sun 16-Jun-13 22:27:16

Queen congratulations! That's fabulous news, on both counts! flowers
Are you the first on the thread to find out the gender? I think you might be!

PistachioTruffle Sun 16-Jun-13 22:27:53

Ahh that should have been flowers!

Futterby Sun 16-Jun-13 22:28:14

Congratulations Queen!! You must be so happy! grin

I hear you Pistachio! Earlier on today I came out the shower and flushed the toilet. God knows why. I was also walking along the street earlier just - walk walk walk walk SKIP walk walk walk. I skipped. I really skipped. In public. In front of people. WHYWHYWHY?! Blaming baby brain grin

Featherbag Sun 16-Jun-13 22:33:37

Oh fabulous news Queen, 4 weeks and 4 days til we (hopefully) find out if DS is getting a baby brother or sister smile

LadyMedea Sun 16-Jun-13 23:12:30

Hey aurora you can get heartburn earlier as the progesterone causes the muscles at the bottom of you oesophagus to relax letting acid out. Most treatments that seek to neutralise acid are fine in pregnancy. Rennes are my friend at the moment but may have to move onto gaviscon soon.

AuroraOrtiz Mon 17-Jun-13 05:41:36

Thanks Lady, if it strikes again I'll go to the chemists.

Queen - congratulations!! So exciting!

Abc - I'm sure someone who was pregnant told me a while ago that if a train is rammed you are allowed to sit in first class. She used to commute in to London, and got to sit in first class but not pay any extra! Maybe check it out?

weechops Mon 17-Jun-13 06:34:35

Queen that's so exciting! I'm so looking forward to finding out on the 19th July smile

Great news Queen must be a weight off your mind! Counting down to my 20 week scan, 4 weeks today. Hopefully if everything is good there I'll finally be able to relax and enjoy it a bit more.
Still undecided whether to find out sex or not, DP wants to I think so probably will as I got my wish of a surprise last time.
Am going to have to move into maternity stuff soon, my tummy is massive, can feel b

Oops, can feel bump underneath but just looks like a huge gut sad

violetbean Mon 17-Jun-13 08:07:26

Congrats Queen, great news!

Can't wait to find out gender, hopefully in early August!

I have the burps too. DH is super-embarrassed when I burp while visiting my parents grin

Felt weird yesterday, so tired, woozy and over-heated for most of the afternoon, then after dinner felt a bit better. Hope don't get that feeling too often over the summer! Was horrible.

Rest of scan went fine, baby eventually cooperated and turned the right way after I'd drunk my weight in water and eaten some jaffa cakes. Spent the whole of Friday afternoon going to the loo. confused

Have been writing emails to tell friends and relatives abroad that I'm pregnant. Hard to know how to phrase it!

mumoftwoboysS Mon 17-Jun-13 08:23:09

got my scan in just over an hour...bricking it. DH is convinced it's twins, I'm convinced there's something wrong.... hopefully we're both wrong!!

Congrats Queen! I would love a girl after 2 boys, would really be the icing on the cake but DH doesn't want to find out so I may have the long wait till he/she is born to find out!

oh god, I hate this anxious waiting- and I've also lost my scan letter and worried about that though I know the scan time and have my notes- I'm such a disorganised cow. I looked EVERYWHERE last night. I have no idea if I need to drink water first though I'm sure I didn't for my last two nuchal scans??...

QueenofWhispers Mon 17-Jun-13 09:19:12


you'll be fine. I didn't drink any extra water for my nuchal scans however they didn't ask me to pee before hand.

Alyssa1978 Mon 17-Jun-13 09:32:36


I had to drink a pint of fluids an hour before my nuchal scan.
DF doesn't want to know sex either and a girl after 2 boys would be nice here too but I feel very boyish wink just like with my 2 boys.
Guess I'm also in for a long wait lol. X

NomDeClavier Mon 17-Jun-13 09:54:15

Music I'm in France if you need anything.

Go straight to the hospital or your nearest maternité if you're worried. They should have a gynae A&E, emergency treatment will be free with an EHIC.

PM me if you need and I'll help with translating. Any recently qualified midwife should have enough English to help and if there's a current student midwife or doctor around they have compulsory English, although not all courses have specific medical English. Whereabouts are you? If its near me I apologise for the crap weather.

MrsShrubs Mon 17-Jun-13 09:58:19

Aurora I've had heartburn on and off for a few weeks now, I carry rennie everywhere at the moment with me. I've had to stop eating anything even remotely spicy, and I love my spicy food, because it just aggrevates it.

Is anyone else getting headaches quite a bit at the moment? I seem to be getting them really often recently no matter how much water I'm drinking confused

Due to growing bump I've had to start looking at new work clothes and newlook in their regular section have got some great dresses that are just elastic at the waist and flow out a bit like a skater style dress, smart enough for work and only about £15.99-19.99 which I didn't think was too bad. I'm wearing mine today and am finally comfortable again in work clothes smile

froubylou Mon 17-Jun-13 10:58:00

Morning all

Heartburn here too but had it all way through with DD so was expecting it TBH.

DD currently on sofa with poorly blanket. We had tears over a tummy ache went we got to school so brought her home with me. I have a feeling something is bothering here TBH. Think its because she is worried about being moved down a group in reading. Little git in her class has looked at the records of all the kids and told her she is on level 3A for reading and the rest of her group are on level 4. Its just the kind of thing that would upset her. Going to have a word with teacher tomorrow and try and suss out whats happening.

I've had my date through for my 20 week scan and it says I have to drink 2 PINTs of water 1 hour before my scan. WTF? I'll piddle my pants before I get there lol.

Music, big hugs hun. My sister had a huge bleed at 20 weeks with my nephew. Woke up covered in blood to the point they needed a new mattress and they were talking about a transfusion. She went on to have a healthy baby boy at term so try not to worry. And like Nom says go and get medical help if you need it. xx

I bought some leggings from Topshop the other day. Everso comfy and supportive. Went up 2 sizes and they fit my tummy nicely and because the waist is quite big, go right over my budding bump.

I'll be glad when I am showing properly TBH. Just look fat at the minute. Though we did go to the seaside for the day yesterday and I had a huge plate of fish and chips, followed by ice cream. Yummy. Could eat it now. Though the indigestion on the way home wasn't so good.

lisbapalea Mon 17-Jun-13 11:41:59

Hi all!

Finally had 12wk scan today and all looks good. Baby was jiggling around a fair bit but was quite unco-operative for decent pics but we got a few to share with people.

My new due date is 22nd Dec (meaning I am 13+1), which is earlier than I feared so am happy about that! Am likely to be having an elcs which would prob be a week before due date so that takes me to 15Dec,which is also good as it's closer to the Swedish 'name day' which is inspiring a potential middle name if baby is a girl!

Not that I am over thinking or anything....

Hope everyone is doing ok - thinking of you in France music and hope you get to see someone who can reassure you soon, although like many others have said, there are lots of stories of people having bleeds throughout pregnancies and everything being perfectly healthy so I hope these stories help in some way.

Roselau Mon 17-Jun-13 13:50:09

Hi all
great to see good news scans still coming through. congrat lisbapalea

how exciting Queen that you were able to find out the sex. I can't believe some of you are so close to your 20 week appt already! i have 8 more weeks to wait since I'm due late december (they changed the date to the 21st now) but I'm ok for now having so recently seen the little one swimming happily smile
I think I gained a pound, which would be great news, although I have to validate tomorrow as it could just be constipation........ but I'm still eating like an ogre, so that must be going somewhere!
I am SO excited to be able to start telling friends and people in general. I have just told my boss this morning, which was very stressful for some reason, as he just promoted me to a new role with tons of responsibilities and now I'm putting him in a tricky situation. but he was nice and supportive. I will tell my team next week. I've had a permanent smile on since Friday - it just feels like it's finally real!!

mumoftwoboysS Mon 17-Jun-13 13:57:14

lisb that's the same EDD as me!
Well the scan went well, (much to my relief!) there's only 1 in there and he/she seems to be doing fine! I asked the sonographer what the nuchal measurement was and she said its 2.4 which is fine and within the normal range. I've since looked it up as it seemed high, and it seems its at the higher end and some hospitals even have the cut off for normal at 2.0! So of course I'm worried now... I know that it doesn't mean much until they get the blood results to give an overall risk factor but I just wish it wasn't a niggling worry now. I'm 36 so wondering if that'll put the risk up too..

lisbapalea Mon 17-Jun-13 14:19:11

mumoftwo ah congrats on your scan too - good to have a due date buddy (and we're the same age too!). I was also freaking out that there would be more than one in there (we have twins in the family) so it was a relief to see just one little person bobbing about!

I just had the dating scan and no nuchal screening so don't have any info to compare regarding nuchal measurements but I am sure that if the hospital said it was withim normal range you will be fine. I know it is impossible not to worry over stuff though; our little one had its legs crossed underneath it so we didn't get a full view of its legs - the songrapher was fine with that and said she could see two knees etc so it was nothing to worry about, but I keep worrying that maybe its legs aren't quite right because we couldn't see them. They don't really warn us that pregnancy is 9 months of worrying about the unknown do they?

Try to focus on the hospital's reassurance though; I am sure they wouldn't have told you it was normal if they weren't comfortable with it.

merr Mon 17-Jun-13 14:48:49

Congrats Mumoftwo, lisa and queenow! (and anyone else thats had good news i've missed).

Music - I had a bout of bleeding early in my last pg (oh called an ambulance and we mass panicked) but all was fine, they said it just happens sometimes.

Regarding my scan, baby was too small to measure by 2mm, so have to back in two weeks for another, so hoping my dates are just out and theres not a growth problem.

kyz1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 14:51:44

Queen Congrats thats lovely news.

Music Thinking of you and hope that the bleeding has stopped.

I had a consultant appointment today and had to have my cervix measured again, but it means I got to have a sneak peak at baby!
I have 4 weeks and 4 days until my 20 week scan.. not that I'm counting. We have decided not to find out what we are having.

Went to try and find some maternity jeans today and H&M and Mothercare had none in my size, really wanted to try some on as the ones I have ordered online all went back, really fed up now of having nothing that properly fits.

MrsShrubs Mon 17-Jun-13 15:20:06

kyz have you tried Next at all? I had a quick nose the other day and they seemed to have quite a few different styles/colours. Hadn't even thought of looking in H&M though so will be keeping an eye out in there from now on!

Merr fingers crossed all is fine and it just means you get to have another look at little one.

kyz1981 Mon 17-Jun-13 15:48:28

MrsShrubs My local Next does not stock maternity sad I ordered some from Next online but they did not fit well so returned them, but I may take a trip out to one of the big retail park ones - I'm sure there is one somewhere near me.

mumoftwoboysS Mon 17-Jun-13 17:33:42

lisb it's ridiculous how much we worry but understandable too! It's like I'm looking for something that could be wrong! I did read that nuchal measurements increase week by week so could explain why it's high as I'm towards the top end (13+1) for measuring it. I think they take dates into account with the measurements so it evens out. I guess once my combined results are back i'll be happier - tho we'll be on holiday and now I'm worrying if they'll be able to get hold of me if they need to!!

And I just burst into tears earlier for nothing at all really- hormones!!!!

mumoftwoboysS Mon 17-Jun-13 17:42:18

Meant to say great news Queen! Must be such a relief to know all is fine and bonus finding out the sex! I (secretly) would love a girl but of course tell everyone I don't mind either way!
alyssa yeah I'm used to our all boys household I just sometimes could do with a calmer influence and was thinking a girl could be calmer! My boys are so loud and boisterous!! It's exhausting sometimes but I think it's amplified ATM with me feeling tired and emotional!!

2Labradors Mon 17-Jun-13 17:58:52

Congratulations on the lovely 12 week scans.

Queen how exciting that you found out the sex. We were going to pay for a private sexing scan but 20 week scan is 3 weeks today so we're going to wait now.

mumof I think we're wired to worry all the time. My 12 week scan was just a dating one but little one didn't move around much. The sonographer poked my tum a bit and we got a little wave but that was it. She said its normal for them to have active times and quiet times but it hasn't stopped me worrying about it.

I had a bit of a drama queen moment today. My BP was raised at Friday's midwife appointment and I've been worrying about it. Got to work today, someone was off and I end up doing part of their work as well as a huge pile of my own and was feeling mega stressed. Came over all funny, shaky, sweaty & dizzy so went to find the midwife (I work in a GPs) and just burst out crying on her. She's not 'my' midwife and now I think they may have me down as slightly mad! My BP was raised again when she checked. She's booked me in for me to see my own midwife again next week. I'm usually not a cryer, but I can't help it, when things get tough I cry at the moment.

I have all these great plans about working until 37 weeks, that's another 20 weeks to go aargh

PistachioTruffle Mon 17-Jun-13 18:24:10

2Labs, I hope you're feeling better now! I had a dizzy spell this morning on the bus, I felt really dreadful until I self medicated with ribena!

Congratulations on all the good scan news grin

I think I'm going to have to start getting some longer and maternity tops. I wore maternity jeggings and a regular to today and kept getting drafts on my tummy!

lisbapalea Mon 17-Jun-13 18:37:02

I just got back from the GPs and am now on antibiotics which is adding to my list of pregnancy worries!!

Have had a really sore finger (I think it is from a hangnail that went wrong) since last Thursday and it's been really swollen and hot, with a red line seemingly travelling down the finger. I called 111 on Saturday and they told me to go to A&E which I thought sounded a bit over the top, so I continued to ignore it.

Thought it was getting better but since lunchtime it's totally swelled up and is throbbing like mad. Managed to get emergency GP appointment and she has given me some antibiotics that she said are ok for pregnancy but it still freaks me out.

Alyssa1978 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:07:27


I'm 35 and my risk was in in near 40 thousand so try not to worry, your household sounds just like mine, loud loud boys smile.
Secretly I would love a girl but I don't honk it's meant to be lol.

Just been to see my consultant today with ds1 being small and I have to be scanned at weeks 28, 32 and 36 also to check growth. X

Alyssa1978 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:08:16

1 in nearly 40 thousand i meant to say

Alyssa1978 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:09:13

think its meant to be..... Can't type tidy grin

Alyssa1978 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:09:54

today not tidy, oh my gosh I'm just gonna shut up blush

mumoftwoboysS Mon 17-Jun-13 22:24:28

lol Alyssa! Will you be finding out the sex then? With all those scans its going to be hard not to be tempted!....

ouch Lisb I remember reading somewhere if you ever get a red line going up a finger or toe from an infection its a bad sign (means the infection is starting to travel) so its a good job you got it looked at. Hope its better soon.

Pistachio I need more long tops too- Just feel like the only comfy clothes are leggings and they need long tops (I'm not comfortable showing my bum in leggings!) so I may have to get a few more- bought a lovely stripy one in NL -a bargain too.

2labs so true- mine didn't move much either- a bit at the beginning- I guess they could be sleeping hence being more still! I'm trying not to worry about it all tho won't be happy till test results come back ok

Futterby Tue 18-Jun-13 00:22:14

Is anyone else exceptionally hairy? I feel like Chewbacca.

MrsShrubs Tue 18-Jun-13 08:12:12

Not hairy but I've noticed my hairs stopped getting greasy or needing dry shampoo on in between days, just washed my hair for the first time since Saturday morning and normally I would have to wash it every other day. Not a bad pregnancy side effect to have!

MildredH Tue 18-Jun-13 08:40:17

Hairy? Yes! Usually shave my legs so infrequently that I can't find where I've left the razor from last time but now it's twice weekly ( well, would be if I wasn't just ignoring them). On the upside my head hair is looking nice and my skin seems better- need less make up to make my face look awake in the morning!

QueenofWhispers Tue 18-Jun-13 08:58:45

speaking of good skin and hair.

hair is fine---it's the skin! I've never had to battle any acne. I may have had 10 zits from the start of my life until this pregnancy; but now you could play connect the dots on my face. it's horrible.

MrsShrubs Tue 18-Jun-13 09:14:42

Queen put sudacrem on your face, do it in the evening or put a layer on before you go to sleep and you should hopefully see an improvement. That always works for me when my skin gets bad.

Featherbag Tue 18-Jun-13 09:39:01

Argh, someone PLEASE talk me out of walking out of this hospital and booking in elsewhere, I'm so close to doing it but this hospital is the one I work in and it's near where I live, I have no access to a car during the day and it would be inconvenient to go somewhere else!

Sorry if this is long - had an appointment to see obstetrician this morning to discuss previous pregnancy/birth and plan for this one. Arrived on time - no appointment booked. I've got a letter confirming the appointment so they 'kindly' agree to fit me in. Not with the consultant I was meant to be seeing, but not the one I've refused to see, so I agree. Kept waiting half an hour, no big deal. Consultant breezes in, announces he doesn't see why I need to see him and he will 'bounce me back' to Evil Consultant (EC from now on). Oh no you won't, say I. He then answers his mobile and has a long chat about the predicted cost of having his car headlights repaired. Doesn't apologise. Says I'll have to see EC's clinic mate, but he'll recommend I'm given steroids at 30 and 32 weeks in case of another prem labour. Then leaves.

I think I need to ask my midwife for referral to someone to help me deal with my emotions regarding DS's birth, as I'm now sitting sobbing again. I just want someone to take the time to talk to me and allay some of my fears, and it's becoming clear that I can't rely on doctors to do this, although it's doctors who will deliver my baby, seemingly with no input from me if it can be avoided.

QueenofWhispers Tue 18-Jun-13 09:43:35

but won't it make my face a bit oily? I'll give it a go. x

QueenofWhispers Tue 18-Jun-13 09:45:33


I'm sorry! would PALS be able to help?

MrsShrubs Tue 18-Jun-13 11:11:52

Queen not at all, I've been using it for 10 years and it's never made my skin oily. If you look on the tub/tube of sudacrem it actually says it is for acne & spot related problems. You can either put a dot on each one or put a layer over the area.

featherbag that's awful especially when they are the ones who have made the mistake with the booking. Can you complain and ask for another appointment this week since they've messed up so you can have a proper sit down and chat?

froubylou Tue 18-Jun-13 11:36:50

Morning all

Belly has popped lol. Look defo PG now. Or its the remants of the dirty great big lamb biriyani I scoffed last night with a huge dripping with garlic, garlic nan. Paid the price though and was up most of the night with heartburn and wind lol.

Feathers get in touch with Pals. And demand another appointment with either the head of midwives or a different consultant. Write down your concerns before you go and make sure you get every question answered properly before you leave.

Had a new niece born yesterday. Brothers first baby. And I'll tell you something. When I go in labour I don't want my family knowing until baby is here if I can lol. Was like a bloody hotline yesterday with everyone and anyone calling for and with updates.

And then to top it all my mum called at 5.30pm for a lift to the hospital. I wouldn't take her on the basis that baby was born by forceps at 4pm and perhaps sis in law didnt want in laws all piling in so soon. Mother went anyway as DB had asked her to. I did point out that DB hadn't just had a 22 hour labour and a forceps delivery but it fell on deaf ears and she went in a taxi.

FFS. If my DP invites my FIL to hospital to see baby an hour and a half after delivery I swear to God he will need surgical attention when I've done lol. FIL a waste of skin though to be fair. Have a feeling he will turn up like he did when OH was poorly the other year. Outside of visiting times (visiting times clash with the horseracing on TV and pub opening times), hungover, stinking of fags (nothing as sanctimounious as an ex smoker lol) and asking if I have £20 to 'lend' him til his pension is due in. And a couple of quid change for his busfair home even though he has a pass.

You can pick your friends and even your OH's but you are fecking stuck with your family lol.

TakingTheStairs Tue 18-Jun-13 12:42:51

queen I use sudocrem overnight on spots when they pop up. Takes the redness out of them and dries them out a bit.

Feather You poor poor lamb. You really are having a shit time aren't you. sad sending you un MN (((hugs)))

abcdemma Tue 18-Jun-13 15:49:39

Feather that sounds awful. Would it be best to go back to the beginning and chat to a midwife? You should be given your choice of doctor, and since you work there would your colleagues have any advice?

Also incredibly hairy, if I didn't keep on top of it I'd have a beard like Gandalf by the end of the week!

Queen just dab it on the affected patches, it's not an oily cream as such.

Gannetgob Tue 18-Jun-13 17:55:43

Sorry it all seems so crap for you feather. Not sure what to suggest, but talking to your midwife again can't do any harm.

I'm not hairy (not looking forward to that!) and my hair is looking ok too but my skin isn't great. My hormones seemed to have settled a bit but yesterday the crying came back with a vengeance. The worst was when I was watching long lost family and I was crying because I don't want to give my baby up for adoption! It's never even been mentioned or considered!

I have what I think is a silly question - I saw my friend and her baby today. I was having a munch with him and he started crying. I tried to calm him for about 30 seconds then passed him back to mum. Then it dawned on me very soon I'm going to be the one who people pass a baby to after they have made them cry. So, wise mums of the December club, do you just get to know how to calm your baby over time? Is there often a sure-fire thing to do to get your baby to stop crying, or is it very much trial and error each time they cry? Sometimes can it be enough that its you holding them rather than someone else? I know it's a silly question, but I've never really had to deal with a crying baby. They have never been my responsibility, or I've only had to calm them once or twice, not over a long period of time!

QueenofWhispers Tue 18-Jun-13 19:15:57

Thanks everyone, especially mrs schrubs for the suggestion. Will Sudo cream it up.

I bet I've never looked as attractive.

Alyssa1978 Tue 18-Jun-13 19:47:15

I think sometimes it was enough that it was me holding ds1 and 2 but with most babies they either want feeding, burping or changing lol, it's trial and error Hun and it'll all come naturally don't worry.


I'm gonna try very hard not to find out the sex......wish me luck. X

MrsShrubs Tue 18-Jun-13 19:47:50

You're welcome queen me & my housemates used to sit around with it on when we had nights in, such a funny sight! Hope it works for you!

gannet I think it's something you get the hang of quite quickly and that your own baby instantly feels calmer with their mum because they know your smell and you're the one looking after them. Also I think people panic slightly when a child that's not theirs starts crying on them and just want to hand them back as soon as possible whereas mums persevere with calming the baby down because they're yours. That's what I'm hoping anyway, or for some secret mum knowledge to automatically kick in on birth that no one tells you about!! In 6 months time us first timers will soon be finding out!

mumoftwoboysS Tue 18-Jun-13 20:08:17

Oh my god, mrsshrubs 6 months time... It doesn't seem like long- I'm still getting my head round the fact that I'll have another child by Xmas (or soon after) yikes!

gannet the others are right- you'll soon learn/develop a natural instinct to sooth your baby. The only piece of advice I can give as a mum already is that sometimes babies just cry and even when you've fed, burped and change them they can still scream the place down- sometimes you just have to let them! I wish someone had told me that as I used to get so stressed/anxious when my first cried and I couldn't calm him. Sometimes there isn't a solution. I used to find sometimes DH would have more success calming them (mostly when I'd had enough and DC probably sensed my stress. Funny thing is they pick up on it so I believe I had an easier DC2 because I was more chilled.

Btw, anyone still waiting for results of combined test/ risk ratio from nuchal scan? I'll be on holiday when it comes thru :-( I guess if I don't get a call then all is well...

FluffyDucky Tue 18-Jun-13 20:48:38

Hi ladies, I just wanted to come back and say goodbye and good luck to you all with your pregnancy's and babies. You are all going to make wonderful amazing mummies smile

We saw the consultant again today, it has been confirmed after the initial amnio test baby has downs and possibly a heart problem. We had another scan today and there is loads more fluid around baby now, if you imagine a side view the fluid is now going all around the skull and down the spine, there is a lot around the lungs too. This has confirmed to us baby will not survive.
We have taken the decision to terminate and I took the first set of drugs today, we go into hospital Thursday to continue treatment and termination. I am happy (possibly not the right word but I am sure you know what I mean!) with our decision, I just feel knowing baby will die sometime in the next 30 days is too much to bear, at least this was it is our decision and we have some control.
We are feeling strangely ok atm, in fact last night I slept really well after getting the result! But I know it's going to be once it's done it'll be worse.
Thank you all for all your kind messages, it was lovely. Love to you all, hopefully by the end of the year I'll be on another anti-natal chat smile xxx

yogafan Tue 18-Jun-13 20:58:47

Take good care fluffy, lots of love to you. Good luck for the next few days, and for the rest of the year and journey into motherhood. Pop in and say hi and let us know how you are xxx

violetbean Tue 18-Jun-13 21:10:58

Take care fluffy and thank you for your lovely wishes. Thinking of you. xx

b0nker5Mum Tue 18-Jun-13 21:18:35

Take care fluffy... Look after yourself!...xx

QueenofWhispers Tue 18-Jun-13 23:02:12

Lots of love to you Fluffy. I wish you all the comfort in the world. x

Roselau Wed 19-Jun-13 07:40:15

Take care of yourself fluffy. I admire you for being so strong and positive. xoxo

kyz1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 08:19:45

Take big care Fluffy, you will be in my thoughts. xxx

Holly1977 Wed 19-Jun-13 09:30:26

Take care Fluffy, thanks for updating us. I'm sorry it's such bad news, hope the both of you get through it ok.

I've been having little spots of blood here and there since the weekend and am trying not to worry (and follow my own advice to Music!!). I have a feeling it's fine and it's just something going on with my cervix as they've all been after certain events, namely sex, straining for a poo and (sorry tmi) an erotic dream early this morning (clearly I'm not getting enough sex!!). It's not a lot of blood at all, just a bit when I wipe after the loo. There's no pain and I feel fine. In fact, like you Frouby, I've suddenly started looking pg in the last couple of days. Though that was partially constipation related which has now resolved itself after a rather dramatic time on the toilet last night (sorry, tmi again!). By gum, being pg is fun isn't it?!

I phoned the midwife and she was rubbish and completely non committal. So I phoned the GP but couldn't get an appointment until tomorrow morning which will also mean being late for work which will mean explaining why I'm late to bitch colleague which I don't feel like doing cos she's such a doom monger. She had piles the other year and was convinced she had late stage bowel cancer! AND the stupid fecking GP have changed the rules about how and when you book appointments but when I said "oh have you changed how you book appointments" she said no and made me feel like some kind of loon. Urgh, NHS are so annoying.

Anyway, I do think it's probably fine but would like to see the GP for some reassurance and discussion of what it might be. I've had 3 colposcopies in the past and on the last one they cut a chunk out of my cervix. I remember reading something at the time about pregnancy and child birth but can't remember what it said. So I'm wondering if it's hormonal changes making my cervix behave a bit strangely. Trying to make myself step away from the keyboard and stop googling it now!

Rant over!

We got our combined results in, 1 in 6027. smile

Feather - might it be worth making a complaint? If only to make them buck their ideas up a bit and start treating you with a bit more professionalism? Hospitals have dedicated complaint departments now and in my experience take it seriously if you make a formal written complaint. It's very poor form for any professional to take a phone call in the middle of an appointment, especially when it's not something that actually matters or couldn't have waited. And they fucked your appointment up, where's your apology for that? And I think what you need is a decent professional team of caregivers rather than shower of shite it sounds like you've got now. Though I'm sure talking to a counsellor or similar won't do any harm.

Ganet, I was holding a brand new prem baby on Saturday (soooo tiny and cute!) and his dad told me to tap his bottom as it reminds them of your heartbeat. Totally worked! But also agree with what everyone said above. I'm sure it's easier when they're yours and you're attuned to them and them to you.

OH has started taking pics of my bump to make a bump diary!

Finally, sorry for such a long post (!) H&M have got a brilliant maternity range and all quite reasonable too. Only at their larger stores (like Trinity in Leeds) but I got loads of stuff yesterday including a swimming costume. AND I managed not to punch the stupid smug girl when she wouldn't give me the hangers cos they're trying to be more environmentally friendly!!

TakingTheStairs Wed 19-Jun-13 10:00:28

Fluffy take care of yourself xx

kyz1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 10:12:27

Holly def tell your midwives about the treatment to your cervix and if your midwife is rubbish call the antenatal department, you will probably need to have a cervical scan to check length and be under consultant care- most trusts will do this at booking- as some ladies who have had a cone biopsy/funneling to the cervix need a stitch around 23 weeks.

I only had a laser treatment and still have to be under a consultant just so they could scan my cervix- this is despite having 2 previous full term pgs. I would phone your midwife now and focus on the cervical questions - you will probably be seen much quicker and be listened to and should be quickly reassured.

Holly1977 Wed 19-Jun-13 10:32:09

Thanks Kyz. Right, spoken to an actual mw this time rather than what I think might have been the receptionist before! She said not to worry, it could be that now's the time I would have had my period so it could be that. Also my history might mean my cervix is more sensitive than normal or might have scar tissue. And that there's loads more blood to the whole area during pg and it's quite common to bleed a bit, especially after sex and bowel movements. She said as long as it's just a small amount on wiping not to worry and see the GP tomorrow. He may do a visual inspection of the cervix (really looking forward to that!) and/or arrange a scan, either of bump and/or of cervix. Either way the mws can do bugger all basically so def need to see GP. Hope it all settles down, really don't fancy having a cervical stitch at all!

kyz1981 Wed 19-Jun-13 10:52:18

Holly Good I'm glad you have spoken to someone, You will probably need a scan as I'm not sure how much a GP would be able to see and how he could measure- I would request a scan anyway, It is internal though but does mean you get to see baby, the cervix can change and grow on my 1st scan mine was the normal end of short on my second it was long.

abcdemma Wed 19-Jun-13 11:05:25

Fluffy take care and look after yourself, will be looking out for your name popping up around here in the future xx

Holly it's good that the mw was able to reassure you and that you get to see GP so hopefully you'll be properly monitored.

Just come back from 16w mw appointment and got to hear Archibald's heartbeat smile He kept moving away so the mw kept having to chase him lol but feeling elated smile
Meant to ask her to prescribe me some safe antihistamines though, and just realised I never got bloods done for Down's... I'm only young and scan was all fine so dunno what to do about that now...

Holly1977 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:10:21

Thanks Kyz, will do. I can cope with an internal, it's not like I haven't had enough of them over the years with my stupid cervix! Never had one by a man though, used to have a MAJOR phobia about them so that would be a big deal for me. Only got through colposcopies with a friend holding my hand and lots of valium! But I suppose now's the time to get over all that once and for all.

That's lovely ABC, congrats. I want to know what flavour we're having more than ever now so I can start referring to it as Isabel or Sebastian!

Don't think you can take any oral antihistamines safely (or that they can be sure are safe anyway). I've been given Beclothemathasone nasal spray (steroid) and eye drops. Which seem to be working quite well. Not as good as proper antihistamines but it's bearable now I'm using them daily.

froubylou Wed 19-Jun-13 11:12:36

Morning all

Fluffy, take care of yourself. And come and find us all again when you get your next BFP and let us know how you are getting on from time to time. And don't be too brave about everything. Give yourself permission to grieve. Its easy for people to say 'oh its for the best' and 'at least it was early' but it is a baby to you and your OH and loosing a baby must be devastating. xxxx

Holly I'm sure its something and nothing hun. My sister had some surgery on her cervix a couple of years ago. In fact she had a tiny part of her womb removed I think. Anyhows, she now has an 18 month old 'miracle' baby. They thought her new OH was infertile due to him TTC with a previous partner for 3 years. Previous partner then when and got pregnant within a few months of seperating. And then added to it sisters recent op they assumed they were safe. Obviously not lol.

She did have a little bleeding from time to time too. Once at about 12 weeks I think, then later on. And I've mentioned it before but she had a massive bleed when she was carrying her son at 20 weeks.

But its very easy to sit and worry and worry and worry isn't it. I've got a niggly pain in my pelvic area to one side today. Think its with pushing a trolley round 1 handed for half an hour whilst I listened to my BF witter on about not very much lol. How is it that woman can be on the phone for so long and talk about so little? Baffles my OH that I can have spent 2 or 3 hours with her, then speak again at teatime and still be on the phone for ages.

Been looking at baby clothes today. Was tempted to buy a pack of sleep suits reduced to a fiver in neutral colours but trying to hold off until I have re-decorated. I also desperatley want to move. We only have 2 bedrooms here and although baby will be in with us for at least 6 months, probabaly 12 I still think we need more space. Well we don't actually. We need to de-clutter and de-crap all the things we have and get a bit more organised.

Anyone started looking at prams and stuff yet? Any thoughts? I had seen some bargains on Amazon (new) but OH watched a programe (watchdog type thing) the other night where they were testing unbranded or copies of branded prams and he is now insistent that we go to one of the highstreet shops like Mothercare.

I did think I wanted a pram with a carrycot and carseat. However having looked at some reviews and descriptions I think most of them (in my price range of £300) you have to either have the pram on, the car seat or the carrycot. My pram for DD didnt have a carrycot but the carseat just slotted on top of the pushchair bit which seems much easier than faffing around. I will use the car probably at weekends and in the week I can walk (and intend to, to shift the lbs). But I will sometimes want to use the car in the week, but that would mean swapping to the carrycot bit all the time for the school run, which is much easier on foot.

Its a bloody minefield lol. And I know as soon as baby is old enough I will swap to a Maclaren buggy so its probably only for the first 12 months or so, then big pram will be used to take to horse shows as they are great for stashing stuff in the basket underneath.

And speaking of hairs and embarrassing problems whilst you are PG I have an ingrowing hair. Right on my flue. Don't half bloody hurt. I don't usually get them so am blaming being PG. Its very, very sore and am hoping it pops tonight in the bath! Its the second one I have had since being PG so instead of shaving from now on I will be getting OH's clippers round it for a short, back and sides lol.

abcdemma Wed 19-Jun-13 11:20:10

Not sure what we're having yet, the nickname Archibald has just stuck lol, and we're convinved it's a boy anyway wink

lisbapalea Wed 19-Jun-13 11:35:40

Just got the post and received two letters for hospital appointments with absolutely no info about what they were for which was slightly alarming!!

I called the hospital and eventually deduced that one is an appt with a consultant to discuss my previous c-section and plans if I do go ahead with a c-section again (which I think I have decided I probably will).

The other one is for the VBAC clinic in case I decide to go the natural route.

Wish they could have made the letters a bit more self explanatory - the lack of info scared me and meant I ended up wasting their time with double checking stuff.

Our nickname is currently 'plum' based on the fact that's how big we think it is! Not particularly imaginative....

QueenofWhispers Wed 19-Jun-13 12:17:42

we call her beanie. I was really worried about Kimye using one of our names for their baby as our preferred name starts with a C. Our name is quite tame though...

We are thoroughly scared that our names will be taken by the deluge of children being born within our family this year.

We went to a family wedding on Monday and literally everyone is pregnant. I honestly hate being from an Asian family sometimes because pregnancy is often kept a 'secret' until you can't hide it; especially from family members you particularly don't like...and not many people in this family (in-laws) are keen on me. I really do try with them but a few of them just act like they eat old crusty ass blisters (piles) all day long and somehow it makes them better. I really hope that in the next few weeks they can see the assholes they are and calm it down enough for me to not accidentally slip up and say how I feel about them infront of DS.

I would hate for DS to repeat that back at the next family function.

Holly1977 Wed 19-Jun-13 12:19:40

Thanks Frouby, I'm sure you're right. I am feeling reasonably calm, glad I've got pg yoga tonight which is very relaxing and calming.

It is very easy to worry about every little sensation, niggle and pain. I hurt my hip yesterday turning round too quickly in a shop, wtf?! And OH wonders why I worry more than him?!!

I'm not looking at prams or anything at all yet. Am hoping the big stuff like that will be given as hand me downs or gifts. But I think a pram with a detachable car seat is probably the way to go.

ha ha Frouby, that's so funny. Not for you I know but your posts do make me laugh. Nothing worse than an ingrowing hair on your lady garden that you can't sort out. I'm definitely having to shave more often, least I would be if I gave a shit! Noticed how hairy my pits were in the shop yesterday so had a quick sesh this morning.

We were all convinced we're having a boy too but I'm not so sure now. We'll find out in a few weeks I guess. Some people have freaked out when we said we might find out the gender. Err, fuck off, really not your choice is it?!

MrsShrubs Wed 19-Jun-13 13:55:05

I started having a look into prams online and got slightly overwhelmed with the sheer amount of them and all doing completely different things confused I've been speaking with a couple of friends and 2 bought quinny's and have said that they are quite wide and getting them through doors isn't the greatest task in the world. Another recommended the iCandy range and another the babystyle oyster and two girls at work really recommend the bugaboo prams so I think it's a case of putting a day aside and pushing as many around the shops as possible! I have been told mothercare will price match amazon (I'm guessing not second hand but brand new) in store and kiddicare pricematches too so is worth having a shop around price wise and seeing what they might do cost wise.

Holly my OH works at a hospital and is able to read scans so we will be finding out - if he knew and I didn't it would drive me mad - but my Dad is adament he doesn't want to know the gender even though we will so I'm not sure how that will work when my mum & the in laws want to know!

wickedwitchNE Wed 19-Jun-13 14:02:37

Hi everyone! Finally brave enough to join in, this is my first baby and official EDD is 16th Dec (2nd scan showed it to be 13th but they don't change it apparently).
Love being in 2nd trimester, sick of feeling generally rubbish and a bit pathetic for not blooming yet! Off to catch up on the start of this thread, might give the first two a miss...!

NomDeClavier Wed 19-Jun-13 14:31:15

Hello wicked!

Prams: oh I love prams. We have a baby jogger city mini with a hard carrycot and maxi cosi pebble that clips on instead of the carrycot. It's fab and I love it BUT I also have a beast of a Silver Cross carriage pram I inherited and am dying to use. DS was born overseas so lightweight and practical were the buzzwords. You can't fly easily with a lot of the Bugaboos unless you get a travel bag and the fold is a bit of a beast but otherwise they're very good prams. Quinny prams are massive! I'll probably end up using a sling 90% of the time anyway.... Tbh unless you have a pita school run that means you're going to be in the car, out for 10 and in the car I wouldn't be too fussed about the detachable car seat. It's not good for babies to spend a lot of time in there and they're pretty easy to transfer over from pram to seat when you get used to it (so about 2 weeks old!) without waking. So if I were buying now I'd get the bjcm with soft carrycot and sod the car seat.

For settling inconsolable babies I swear by boob. Even I'd you don't think they're hungry they probably are for the first few weeks!

Had bloods done this morning for Downs and various other things. 8 little tubes. 8!!! It's a wonder they didn't just suck me dry and finish the job.

Need to call my GP to get a ridiculous form signed and find a MW now. Plus actually work, and move house, all with 2yo underfoot. Argh!

froubylou Wed 19-Jun-13 15:47:23

Dont envy you Nom. I really, really want to move. But really, really can't be arsed lol. In fact I can't be arsed to do much at the minute.

I'm normally a busy bee but at the min I cant be bothered with housework, paperwork, cooking and did I mention housework lol. OH praying that the nesting will kick in PDQ I think.

Am ultra knackered today. Done school run this morning, been to tescos for a little shop, put shopping away, had some coco pops, had a banana, went to ponies and took one for a walk, done school run again including going long way around for the dog and could now sleep for a week. My hips ache, my back aches and my feet ache. Normally I could have done all that, plus worked for a couple of hours, done some housework and perhaps done an hour in garden as well.

DD has to be back at school for a concert for 6.45pm and then collected at 8pm. Think I'll go in the car, can't face anymore walking today.

Oh, and my bump is called Jesus due to the fact that my original EDD was 24/12. DP hates it lol.

NomDeClavier Wed 19-Jun-13 16:50:13

You don't want to move, frouby. The idea of moving is nice but the reality is a PITA. Unfortunately we have no choice as we're in military owned housing and despite us saying that we planned a baby this posting they gave us a quarter that was suitable for us when we arrived. Upshot we are now moving....to somewhere with less space overall! Our bedroom is tiny and a weird shape and we can't actually fit our wardrobe and bed in without cutting off half the room so I'm not sure what we're actually going to do!!!!

mumoftwoboysS Wed 19-Jun-13 17:35:13

Take care fluffy I hope it goes as well as can be expected and wishing you a happy healthy future pregnancy x

holly hope it settles down - I had exactly the same a few weeks ago so know how it feels. My mw wasn't that helpful and I couldn't get a scan for reassurance but I did read that if its not a lot of blood like a period then it's probably fine. Interesting you mentioned your cervix- I've had cervical erosion in the past-wonder if we just have a higher Chance of them being irritated and hence the blood?

Just tried on trousers for my hols and they don't fit! My bump has just popped out the last few days- another trip to H&M to look for some lightweight/linen trousers!...

Featherbag Wed 19-Jun-13 17:53:09

I moved house while pregnant with DS, and even though I had A LOT of family support it was a pita!

I've decided I'm going to pour out the whole sorry tale to my MW next week and see what she suggests, she's meant to be my first point of contact and my advocate after all. Had my GTT this morning, and they said I should hear this afternoon if the results were abnormal - and I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING!!! I'm chuffed, taking it that the results were normal and keeping my fingers crossed that GD won't raise it's ugly head again. Just in case though, I've had a piece of each of the 3 types of cake on offer on the tea trolley today, in case it was the last I got til after DC2 is born smile

inkymomma Wed 19-Jun-13 18:13:13

We are also moving to a house (currently in a flat) in about 3 months. So ill be nearly 7 months pregnant. Luckily all our family have said they will help. Also going to look into hiring a cleaner to gut our flat for us when we move. I doubt ill be able to scrub the floors and bleach everything within an inch of its life. Hopefully hiring one won't cost too much. I know its going to be a PITA but at least we won't be in a cold flat again over winter

violetbean Wed 19-Jun-13 18:18:10

Argh just wrote a long post and my phone crashed and lost it. Second time lucky...?

Feather, great news re the results! thanks

I'm getting so annoyed with the extra body hair, am considering getting one of those expensive evil-looking epilator things (for my legs mainly). Anyone have experience with them - are they excessively painful / slow to use? Any advice?

Wicked, we have the same edd, yay! Welcome to the thread. smile

I'm so tired at the mo, am waiting for the fabled second trimester energy to kick in... Afternoon naps have become a necessity but I generally feel gross afterwards. Meh!

AuroraOrtiz Wed 19-Jun-13 21:31:34

Violet - I've never used an epilator but someone at work did and she said it was very painful - put me off trying! I am not noticing extra hairs - although tbh I am quite hairy anyway! But I am getting spots, and I don't normally get them, on my face and on my chest!

I just got my results from the combined nuchal, blood test thing, and it said low risk, no further tests needed, but the odds it gave are 1 in 300. That sounds quite high? Or is that similar to what others got? I have a memory like a sieve and can't remember what you all said!

LadyMedea Wed 19-Jun-13 22:00:52

violet I've used an epilator on and off for years. The real pain (literally) is starting out. I'd recommend paying for a professional leg wax and the using the epilator once a week to maintain - then you aren't using it on too many hairs at once and you stay pretty hair free all the time. Otherwise you'll need an ice pack to numb the area the first time. I'm imagining OH doing it for me as the bump gets bigger!

abc on the antihistamines and ladies in general don't be afraid to see your doctor for stuff, they are the only ones who can prescribe or often refer. BTW some oral antihistamines are prescribed in pregnancy, the old school drowsy ones, but mainly it's just the local acting stuff that they stick to.

lisbsa those letters are crap aren't they. I'm assuming the ones I've had are for a consultant for my blood pressure but who knows. I also got invited for a scan the week before, which as its the right time for 20 weeks I'm assuming is just the normal one.... But as it came before I had my 12 week scann again who knows for sure!

LadyMedea Wed 19-Jun-13 22:04:04

aurora I think the high/low cut off is normally around 1/150. How old are you? The age based stats are here. Then you can see how you compare on age alone. In any case remember that's 299 chances out of 300 that everything is fine.

2Labradors Wed 19-Jun-13 22:15:00

lisbsa I got a letter for my consultant appointment through, the date being the day after my 20 week scan. I thought it was routine (as it was routine when had my other 2 children) but apparently, due to cut backs, it's not routine. I hadn't even realised until my MW questioned it at my appointment on Friday, she thinks its because I had a big bleed after having my DD. Wont actually find out until the appointment. Really wish they would clearly state the reason.

NomDeClavier Wed 19-Jun-13 22:39:19

Hurray for good results! Or rather no results.

I have an epilatod and I've not been using it much lately. If you use it regularly then it's fine, or in conjunction with another hair removal method, but if you try to do it on longish hair then oweweewwwww.

Someone tell DH he can't name pud Serenity if it's a girl? We've been looking at names again and <massive geek alert> in the top 5 middle names for girls we find Serenity, Prudence and Temperance. It's only a matter of time before he mentions how nice a name Claudia Jean would be. Or Cordelia. Oh no, wait. We already have that on the list of first names... I already have a hard enough time explaining that DS wasn't named after a character in CSI without having to actually admit a DD really was named for geeky reasons.

QueenofWhispers Wed 19-Jun-13 23:25:34

I had to use an epilator today--it was agonising to the point of me thinking labour is most likely easier to deal with.

QueenofWhispers Wed 19-Jun-13 23:28:21

I love Cordelia.

Our names are:
Olivia Hero
Camilla Eleanor
Eleanor Camilla*
Helena Scarlet

AuroraOrtiz Thu 20-Jun-13 01:44:19

Thanks Lady, that's really useful. I'm 35 - will have just turned 36 by time bump is born. I'm a bit higher than the 35 year old stats, but I guess should be glad am still classed as low risk.

froubylou Thu 20-Jun-13 07:01:18

Morning all

Aurora, you are low risk hun, thats all you need to know. I'm 35 too and haven't even had the screening done as IMO even a 1 in 2 chance is still a 50% chance of everything being fine and I wouldn't have amnio done so would just drive myself mad thinking 'what if?'.

Nom we used to have a pony called Serenity. No one could be bothered to stand at top of field and shout Serenity so she ended up being called Moo as she was a bit of a cow lol. Good enough reason for me not to call a baby that.

I like:

Sebastion (but OH hates that lol)
Jacob (OHs Fave)


I moved house last time I was PG, 2 weeks before I had DD lol. But to be fair it was from a fully furnished apartment to a fully furnished house so not a great deal to shift. Unlike if we ever move again. I really do need to sort some shit out though. Otherwise this poor baby is going to end up living in a drawer with all its stuff.

OH and DD are terrible hoarders. OH has more clothes than me and won't part with anything. His token clearing out his side of wardrobe last week was to make 2 piles. Stuff that needed re-ironing as they had been shoved in because he has so much stuff, and stuff he didn't want to throw out but didn't fit him but 'Look love, this shirt/t-shirt/hoodie will fit you and the bump, save you buying maternity stuff'.

Told him to feck off lol. Apart from the hoodies which I hung up.

Anyone else been too hot the last couple of days? Its tipped rain and thunderstorms next few days so am hoping it freshens up a bit.

Featherbag Thu 20-Jun-13 08:14:30

I've woken up in a scandalously good mood for some reason! Maybe it was being woken by DS standing in his cot shouting mam-mam! Usually he just shouts hi! Or howay! DM taught him that one cos I am classy and never say slangy things like that honest Back/hip really painful today after work yesterday, but determined to go for a nice long walk and get some fresh air. Will walk to GP to get new prescription for crap hay fever remedies after DS's nap.

How's everyone else feeling today? Officially 16/40 today! smile

Featherbag Thu 20-Jun-13 08:19:05

Frouby I don't want to start even considering names, but I can't wait to once we know what we're having! I know it's daft but can't help thinking if I come up with the perfect girl's name, it'll be a boy! I'd love a girl as we're definitely having no more after this one, but 2 boys would be ace too - house full of mischief and slugs! It's odd, by this stage with DS I KNEW he was a boy - no doubt at all, although we didn't find out. If the MW had told me I'd had a girl I wouldn't have believed her. No vibes at all this time though!

Roselau Thu 20-Jun-13 08:39:16

wow a lot to catch-up on.
had to come in early to work for a meeting that just got cancelled, so was able to catch-up on everything.

I'm also still very tired. I really envy all of you that can take a nap in the afternoon. I catch myself looking under my desk and thinking 'the rug looks sooooo comfortable'. But I have a busy job with lots of meetings and need to not lose face in front of the senior boys club. Now that I'm pregnant I feel like I need to prove myself even more so that they don't think I've become soft and can walk all over me. Welcome to corporate London... anyone else having to deal with this?

aurora you are low risk - I think the cut off is indeed 1/150. Think about all the less favourable odds that your little bean has already beaten. it will be just fine smile

well I have to say that the dress I'm wearing feels really tight, but more in the chest than anything. it feels like not just my boobs have grown, but my whole torso / rib cage has expanded. Am I imagining this? I'm still only +1lb on the scale, but can definitely see and feel a bump under the blubber. I will need to figure out what to do from a clothing perspective because I'm not big enough for maternity clothes. Thanks for the suggestion on H&M. I think I will pay them a little visit next week.

ccsays Thu 20-Jun-13 08:58:03

Morning all, have been away for a few days and lots to catch up on!

We ended up paying through the nose for a NT scan because the baby was on its head at our NHS one and they couldn't get the measurements. They don't offer a rescan apparently and the said we would get a blood test for it at sixteen weeks which seemed miles away and to be honest I wouldn't want to be at possible baby kicking stages and then be faced with horrible decisions if the results weren't good.

Anyways so went to a private scan with try Mum, got LOADS of scanning time, saw baby jumping about and it even did a wee backflip! Got lots of photos for the proud grannies too, NHS would only give me one. The nuchal measurement was 1.3 and the combined results came back today with a risk of 1 in 5500, so looking good so far!

MrsShrubs Thu 20-Jun-13 09:42:19

Has anyone started going off things or smells? This morning I put on a perfume that I've probably only worn twice since finding out we're pregnant, within 30 seconds I was spinning from the smell and heaving so straight back in the shower to scrub it off! Don't think I'll be wearing it again for a while!

So confused with the combined results, I thought they only went to 1 in 2500 (which I am) or are those just the examples the NHS give?

Roselau Thu 20-Jun-13 10:34:07

mrsshrubs i think those are only examples, because I was 1 in 16,000

ccsays Thu 20-Jun-13 10:44:35

MrsShrubs The woman at he clinic said to me it could go up to "something like 1 in 50000".

MildredH Thu 20-Jun-13 11:41:45

I'm 1/40'000. I think there's two numbers though- your age related risk and then your actual risk based on the NT and your blood results.

Changing the subject slightly- has anybody felt any movements yet? I know it's possibly a bit early ( I'm 16+5) but I just can't wait! Firstly for the reassurance, but also to start feeling like its a reality that I'm growing a small person and not just getting podgy!

mumoftwoboysS Thu 20-Jun-13 12:01:47

ccsays that's good odds. I can't help thinking my results won't be good- nuchal fold 2.4 and I'm 36 - just clicked on the link and with age alone my odds go down to 1/400. I'm healthy, don't smoke and have really low bp- hope that helps even it out!! Now I'm really nervous about the results- I'm sure my previous DS's results were both 1/ thousands.

Roselau Thu 20-Jun-13 12:06:26

mum didn't you get your test done a few days ago now? I seem to remember that those that didn't get results on the spot they told them that if it's bad news you would get a call really quickly. so I would take no call as a good sign?
I understand you're nervous though. I don't understand why some hospital give you the results within the hour and some make you wait ages. It's not very fair. I got really lucky that my hospital was the former, because I would be like you.
Let us know as soon as you hear - crossing my fingers for good news.

b0nker5Mum Thu 20-Jun-13 12:09:08

Mildred, I swore I felt movement on Tuesday, right where the heartbeat is usually heard on the Doppler almost like a twitch which was on and off all day (and felt almost bruised inside) not had it since though so I'm not so sure....

Finally got my scan date which went to the wrong address, I have very little faith in our local NHS trust... they have a combination of details for my DP on my notes and the only correct one was his name so the scan letter went to a previous address which luckily my ex doesn't live at anymore!

The scan date works for us but unfortunately my daughter is away so I have booked in for a private reassurance scan so she can come along as we want her to feel involved... It is literally just a 15 min appointment where they check the heartbeat etc and take a pic so wont look for any anomalies but it will be good to see bub again!

abcdemma Thu 20-Jun-13 12:15:47

Great news on all the test results
Not sure about movement, felt something when I got home after mw yesterday but bambino's gotta fight through blubber to be felt so not sure if it was. Mw described it as 'fluttering' which was similar to what I felt.
OH was gutted he wasn't there to hear the heartbeat so got a Doppler off eBay as a surprise for him smile

MrsShrubs Thu 20-Jun-13 12:19:22

Blimey 1 in 50000, you do look at the results and just get blinded by figures and other things which are a bit like - I've no idea what you are?!

I had flutterings around week 11 or 12 when they say the baby can get the hiccups from the amniotic fluid, it was like having nervous butterflies but much lower down but after that I haven't felt too much. So exciting people are nearly reaching the points where you can feel things for sure!

froubylou Thu 20-Jun-13 12:40:23

Well I'm sure I've felt jesus move. I know at 14 weeks you shouldn't but I distinctly remember when dd began to move and it is the same fluttering sensation. Felt it first at about 12 weeks and feel it when I am laid flat or in the bath.

My placenta is to the front though and apparently you feel it more in your back but this is quite low down but quite deep inside if you know what I mean.

It's either jesus or my bowels moving lol.

Not be too many weeks before we start complaining that our bumps are fidgeting around all night and keeping us awake lol.

AuroraOrtiz Thu 20-Jun-13 13:52:49

Thanks frouby and rose for your reassurance, although hearing the others talk of such low odds like 1 in 50000 makes feel a bit scared again! Although maybe you guys are younger than me. Oh well, will just have to hope the low risk works out.

QueenofWhispers Thu 20-Jun-13 14:13:29

I want to go here:

I want to go right now. I can't though, because the UKBA has my application for permanent residence and I have to wait for them to give my passport back. I'll go back to day dreaming of vacation.

musiceverywhere Thu 20-Jun-13 14:13:33

Hi all, glad of all good newsscans. Fluffy, I'm glad you've had good support from drs and you've made a decision. I can't imagine how hard it must be, but at least you've been able to take some control at this point. Thinking of you, all the best for future.
On my phone so sorry can't check all posts in more detail.
We're all ok over here I think. Bleeding became brown discharge which has now stopped so I'm going to go with my theory of tiny haemorrhage somewhere that's stopped now. Doesn't completely stop the worry though and thankfully have scan already booked the week after we get back (to discuss cyst) so hopefully get reassurance then.
Thanks for your message Nom, was good to know I had support if needed. Am having a lovely relaxing holiday now. Gutted I'm missing out on all lovely wine and cheese though hmm Have told DH I'm having Brie/pate/red wine/prawn cocktail for Christmas dinner! (EDD 13th)

violetbean Thu 20-Jun-13 16:09:39

Thanks so much for the epilator advice everyone! Will have a good think before committing.

Music, so glad your holiday is going well, have a great time relaxing!

I am getting unreasonably annoyed with my pregnant friend who is due in November. She is really slim and her bump is poking out neatly, but she seems to make a big deal of this every time I see her with other friends. eg yesterday, she said 'it's so nice having a firm, neat bump, it means I can really feel it when the baby is moving around'.

I am so envy as mine is just flab caused mainly by overeating! (and can't feel any movement yet, although wouldn't expect to!).

Don't think she means anything bad by it, she is a lovely person, I just can't help comparing her slim to my flab and feeling down about it! Sigh.

ladymalfoy Thu 20-Jun-13 16:16:41

Hello all! Had 12 week scan yesterday and I'm 13 weeks! So my due date is now 27th Dec. I'm an Xmas eve baby! What a Birthday present! DH spoke to the tangerine last night in bed! He's gone all protective and soppy since he saw mini lady or lord wriggling and bouncing!
Hope you're all doing well with your squiggling ones.

violetbean Thu 20-Jun-13 16:18:25

ps, Rose, sounds like a tricky situation. I feel similarly on the days I'm at work (I work part-time and am trying to finish my PhD the rest of the week). Thing is, if you work yourself too hard you might be forced to take more time off, which would look just the same to the 'old boys club'. At my work there is a sick room that I know I could ask to access if I needed a lie-down, although I haven't yet. It's nice to know it's there if I need it though.

Afternoon naps are becoming problematic on my PhD days though, as I'm just using longer naps as an excuse not to study! Managing my own time is sooooo hard at the mo... shouldn't complain though, everyone has their trials in life and hopefully they make us stronger in the long run!

Dusty04 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:17:33

Just got in from work to a letter saying my screening results were 1 in 17,639.. smile I've been jumping everytime my phone rang all week incase tests came back high risk (said they would ring within 5 days if high risk and if low risk letter would be sent within 10). We'd held off telling people until we got the results, guess its real now!

MrsShrubs we got long awaited for new wooden flooring and carpet in hall/living room.. 2 days letter found out I was pregnant and about 5 days later I hated the smell, it made me wretch constantly! Got over the wrenching now but still don't like the smell!

MildredH Thu 20-Jun-13 17:18:17

For those still feeling wiped out I'd like to offer hope! ( as you'll all know from my moaning!) I felt like my batteries were half empty for the whole first trimester and wondered if I'd ever feel "normal" again!

Magically, and fairly suddenly about 15-16 wks I now feel 100% better.. Although I'd never turn one down, the afternoon nap no longer feels like the holy grail!

I definitely have bags more energy, rarely feel sick and am back to eating pretty normally. grin

Just pudgy as hell.. I blame the potato addiction of trimester one ( and the preceding 32 years of my life)

MrsShrubs Thu 20-Jun-13 17:34:52

MildredH I'll be clinging to that ray of hope, the tiredness is really starting to wear thin now especially when you can't really hit the caffeine to try and balance it back out confused

dusty so glad the smells thing isn't just me!! Also discovered today I no longer like the taste of decaff coffee - yuk!

Dusty04 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:41:13

Yeah I've off coffee completely ! I work in an office where everyone drinks it all day - bleurgh!!

MildredH Thu 20-Jun-13 17:54:17

MrsShrubs.. You're so right it's the endless nature of it that just makes it hard.

I really did wonder if it'd ever end. When I started to feel better I got so worried I went to the GP to get him to check for fetal hb.. Can't win!

There's definitely light at the end for anyone still really suffering!

On another note- I got some fab maternity jeans in Primark of all places yesterday.. Super soft skinnies with a nice soft band at the top. A touch too big but ooooh- the comfort of wearing something that's not tight!! grin

2Labradors Thu 20-Jun-13 18:52:50

violet I have 2 pregnant friends, both not quite as far along as me but already I feel like a hippo compared to them. One is very skinny, which I'm not, and I know we're all different, but I do wish I looked like one of those people who don't look pregnant until you see the bump. I look pregnant all over. I do feel blessed to be having this baby though, and I banged on tonnes of weight in my other 2 pregnancies and lost it all again, so I know I can do it again.

Well, I've had a horrible horrible sickness bug. Lots of V&D and didn't eat for nearly 24 hours because of it so was worried sick about baby.
Still feeling little rumbling kicks though so hoping everything is ok in there. I got in the bath which usually makes little one shuffle loads and it did but I can't help worrying that the bug may have caused some damage.
Dragged myself back into work today but had a banging headache by the end of the day and still not feeling good, just drained.
Wondered if the headache is due to not eating much so I'm sat eating chocolate digestives at the moment grin

Got 20 week scan (19 and a bit actually) 2 weeks on Monday and looking forward to that, hoping all is ok then too

Featherbag Thu 20-Jun-13 19:19:14

Mildred, do I understand you correctly? Are you telling us Primark have started doing maternity clothes?!

MrsShrubs Thu 20-Jun-13 19:36:20

What featherbag said!! That would be amazing!

2labradors hope you feel better soon & everything is okay

violetbean Thu 20-Jun-13 19:46:42

Mildred, so good to have some hope! Thanks smile

2labs, sorry to hear about the sick bug, yuk! glad you can feel wiggling little one - so reassuring.

I have to stop feeling envy and start feeling smile - I wanted so much to be pregnant, and I need to reinforce the positives, not the negatives, in my over-anxious brain! blush

QueenofWhispers Thu 20-Jun-13 20:50:40

I'm quite big on a normal basis but I think people can tell I'm pregnant. I'm carrying quite high, it might as well be a new low boob. I do feel beanie moving tonnes. Lots of kicking and poking going on. I think I'm further along than I originally posted, I'm due Dec.6th.

QueenofWhispers Thu 20-Jun-13 20:51:52


Does anyone know of a primark that isn't full of crazy people and frenzy? My closest one is oxford circus and I avoid it just because of the crowds.

QueenofWhispers Thu 20-Jun-13 20:52:25

i genuinely want to go to primark like I used to, but I need one thats a bit more tame

Roselau Thu 20-Jun-13 21:48:19

queen that's my closest one too and just the thought of the crowds makes me anxious. i think the only solution is to go at the second they open in the morning. but we'll see if i make it. I didn't know they made maternity clothes, that's exciting!

MildredH Thu 20-Jun-13 22:09:01

Sorry to raise hopes.. Pretty sure it's only the jeans.. Which is odd in itself but am glad as their super soft skinnies are the jeans I wore pre-preg so I'm v happy!

On a bit of a roll this week.. Got two pairs of mat/nursing pjs and a mat swimming costume in the M&P sale.

I'm not quite big enough for proper maternity bits but just so fed up of being in uncomfortably tight clothing!

Futterby Thu 20-Jun-13 23:14:25

I've popped! Totally popped! Oh god, woke up this morning and there it was, my belly! Finally grin

QueenofWhispers Fri 21-Jun-13 07:01:55

yay futterby

froubylou Fri 21-Jun-13 07:08:50

LOL Futterby. We are all excited so little bellies popping up aren't we? Wait till we can't bend down properly or get off the sofa without help!

Saw my new niece last night. Gawd, she is gorgeous. Like a little doll. Only 6lb 2oz, dark hair and little turned up nose.

DD was smaller than her though, 5lb 12oz. And I can't imagine being responsible for someone so tiny again. Been having nightmares all night about not being able to find baby, or leaving them at home whilst I nip out somewhere and not being able to get back. Not that I ever would lol.

Didn't know Primark did maternity wear either! We have a big one near us so will try that. I looked in mothercare last night and there maternity wear is really vile lol. Especially the tops. So not me. Going to try H & M and Primarni next weekend I think then.

And failing that good old Ebay!

Featherbag Fri 21-Jun-13 08:04:12

You forget how tiny they are, don't you Frouby?! I met my friend's little girl last week, she was so weeny, but she was DOUBLE the weight of DS at birth, and he weighed even less (4lb 12ozs) the day we brought him home at 4wo! I'm sitting looking at him sitting on his toy bike, trying to steer with his feet so he can carry on stuffing half a banana into his face, and I just can't reconcile this enormous toddler with the teeny tiny soft helpless bundle (that mewed like a kitten instead of proper crying) I brought home just 20 months ago! I can't wait to do it all again without the month in NICU this time though please

MrsShrubs Fri 21-Jun-13 08:27:36

queen and roselau have you been to the one at Tottenham court road yet? It's fairly new and hardly no one knows about it, I went on a Saturday afternoon and it felt like walking around a normal shop not the normal primary chaos! As soon as you come out of one of the exits- on the road opposite the dominion theatre- it's there. 3 floors!

MrsShrubs Fri 21-Jun-13 09:13:26

Also going to apologise now if this is way TMI but is anyone else having a lot of discharge?

Holly1977 Fri 21-Jun-13 10:01:34

Saw the doc last night, he's referred me to the EPU for another scan tomorrow morning there goes my lie-in Trying not to worry and rationally I know that bean is probably fine but judging by how little sleep I got last night and how many nightmares I had, the emotional part of me doesn't agree. It's still just spotting when I wipe, particularly after a poo. urgh, oh well, at least we'll get to see bean again.

My belly has totally popped out too, I look enormous today smile, nothing to do with wearing leggings or anything! I think I felt a little flutter this morning too but was still half asleep so not sure. OH has taken to kissing bump as well as me when we see each other which is very sweet.

MrsShrubs, yes, totally! Been meaning to say for a while. Apparently it's all normal and part of the joys of pg. Argh, hope it all settles down soon and I can start enjoying being pg instead of being a bag of nerves and being annoyed at all the constipation, bleeding, discharge, back ache and no booze!

MildredH Fri 21-Jun-13 11:04:52

All the best for your scan Holly.. Hope you get reassurance and can start enjoying!

It's so annoying to be anxious isnt it.. I envy ladies who float through not thinking about what can go wrong..

After a few lovely weeks of feeling quite relaxed I'm now starting to panic about the 20w scan in 3 wks!


Holly1977 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:33:52

Thanks Mildred. Yes, I envy those chilled out folks too. Though I suspect a lot of people don't let on when they are worried. It doesn't help that I work with doctors who are all doom and gloom. I mentioned to one of them that we're thinking about finding out the gender, one reason being to start bonding earlier. He said that was precisely why he didn't want to find out and that he didn't really relax until his dd was born and he knew she and his wife were ok. Miserable git! I appreciate that being a doc and seeing all the bad stuff that can happen colours your world view but really! He said his wife was the same. I feel like the bonding has already started, I'm always rubbing my belly and think about it almost 24/7! I don't think any amount of trying to detach would make it any easier if the worst did happen. For me anyway. Not that it matters cos it's all going to be fine and come Christmas we're going to have a lovely wee DD or DS smile

MildredH Fri 21-Jun-13 11:42:04

Haha Holly- I'm a doctor too! Lol. Am sure that contributes to my anxiety!

Don't even get me started on the delivery.. I've done a stint on labour ward a few years back. Seen lots of high risk & difficult ones. Hoping only to see midwives myself..!

Holly1977 Fri 21-Jun-13 11:56:11

My friend's an anaesthetist in obs and gynae. I went round to hers for dinner one night. I was the only non medic round a table full of medics, who mostly worked in obs and gynae. They all started comparing notes and horror stories about difficult deliveries etc. I must have gone green because my friend told them all to pipe down, pointed out that I didn't have any kids yet and was unlikely to if they carried on like that!

Right, I'll blame my anxiety on having too many doctor friends and colleagues then!

yes, I want a home birth with no bloody doctors around at all, no offence!

QueenofWhispers Fri 21-Jun-13 11:56:55

you guys, is anyone having really random cravings? I'm craving tonnes of mexican with hot sauce.

MildredH Fri 21-Jun-13 12:04:38

No offence taken Holly wink I definitely don't want to see any doctors either if I can possibly help it ( although, on 2nd thoughts maybe a small friendly anaesthetist as I haven't ruled out epidural!).

Not quite brave enough for a home birth though, although I've heard lovely stories from friends who've had them..

abcdemma Fri 21-Jun-13 12:05:09

Think I go through stages of rubbing belly and talking to bambino then panicking about how I'm gonna provide for him and how OH feels etc etc. Luckily my mum's been a massive help and is already buying little bits n pieces. Always knew I wanted kids but now it's actually happening it's surreal!
Still waiting to not look like I've eaten all the pies and to have a bump-shaped bump lol

abcdemma Fri 21-Jun-13 12:08:33

Just been craving crunchy nut cornflakes since day 1.
And thinking of birthing pool since the hospital is gonna have a new state of the art one just before I'm due smile

MrsShrubs Fri 21-Jun-13 12:20:05

I've been freaking out at various different points, around week 10 when I suddenly stopped feeling nauseus all day every day I panicked and thought something must be wrong but then on the 12 week scan little one was there and wriggling all over the place. So now just trying to enjoy the feeling fully human days while they last!

Haven't had any cravings as of yet, just hope I don't get a weird one - someone I know craved the smell of brand new catalogues?!

Holly1977 Fri 21-Jun-13 12:32:08

My only real craving so far has been for really cold fizzy drinks. Not coke particularly, loving flavoured water from Morrisons at the mo. And their virgin cocktails, mojito is my favourite. Lemonade, bitter lemon, you name it. Friend said she was the same. Also crisp sandwiches. And just generally, when I'm hungry, I'm frigging hungry and you better get out of my way. And when I set my heart on eating something, I have to have thing and nothing else. That may just be cos I'm stroppy demanding cow rather than pg related though! smile

Glad I'm not the only worrier, thanks guys! Might show OH this part of the thread so he can realise I'm not the only one!

froubylou Fri 21-Jun-13 12:33:21

I have craved

1. Anchovies. And admit I have eaten them straight from the tin on toast. Dropping a few straight into my mouth without them even getting to the toast.

2. Tomato based pasta sauce. With anchovies and olives in.

3. Oranges. The big ones that are a ball ache to peel.

4. Sunday dinners with cauliflower cheese on.

5. Milk. I rarely drink milk.

6. Salad creme on everything.

7. Crisps. Especially quavers and bacon fries. And those vile ones that smell like dirty ladies, Scampi Fries. Yummy pmsl.

8. Cheese on toast with relish on. And salad creme to dip into.

So lots of random things none of which are any good for you. Thats why I have a fat belly.

Holly good luck for your scan hun. You see the thing is, we worry and fret about something and want someone to do something. And then when they do we worry because if they are going to do something then something must, must be wrong lol. We can't win.

I'm taking this view with this PGy. I will enjoy it. There will be times when I worry and fret. But what will be will be. As long as I do everything I can to look after me and jesus then there is a 99.7% chance I think it was that I will have a normal pregnancy and give birth to a healthy baby. Thats the stats I read somewhere if you have seen the heartbeat at 12 weeks.

So I am not going to ruin my PGy by worrying about the 0.3% chance that something could go wrong. No point.

Then I get a twinge, or some discharge, or an ache, or my symptoms go, or I feel worse, or better and panic lol.

But generally I am trying to stay relaxed and focused on enjoying this PG. It will be my last one I am pretty sure and I didn't get to enjoy my DD's so am making the most of this one.

ABC I want to use the birthing pool as well. From the stories I have read it seems a lot more relaxed and private in there than on a bed. Though things can change lol.

Futterby Fri 21-Jun-13 12:38:56

The only thing I've really craved is beer. I had half a units worth and didn't crave it again. Weird O.o

Oh, and sprite but that's not as bad a craving as my beer one.