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January 2014 - Thread 4 - Heading towards our Second Glowing Trimester...... Roll on 12 week scans, gorgeous bumps and baby buys...

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LittlePeaPod Sat 01-Jun-13 08:06:34

My god ladies we can talk! Thread 4 of 6000 at this rate. grin

lovesbakingcupcakes Sat 01-Jun-13 08:20:57

Checking in! Good luck with your scan today pod , enjoy seeing your little chickpea.

TobyLerone Sat 01-Jun-13 08:34:57

Thread 4 already shock

Sultanajo Sat 01-Jun-13 08:36:20

Marking my place. Imagine what number thread we will be on at the end????!!!!shock

Thanks for the thread pod

enormouse Sat 01-Jun-13 09:28:40

Making my mark on the spanking new thread. Good luck with the scan pod

I hope everyone has a great weekend. smile any nice plans for this sunny/ or not so sunny day?
I think we might go for a walk in our local forest and then for ice creams by the harbour. My DS wants to show his new trike off to granny and grandad.

lovelilies Sat 01-Jun-13 10:26:50

marking place smile

MrsGSR Sat 01-Jun-13 10:43:10

Just checking in smile it's nice and sunny here too but dh is on duty so we have to stay close to the car sad

Toothfairy78 Sat 01-Jun-13 10:49:53

Checking in! Thread 4 already? Time's flying!

rosalux Sat 01-Jun-13 13:19:56

Wow! Thread 4 already! No way I can catch up on everyone's news (by the time I finished the post the thread would have doubled in size) but very best of luck to all those with imminent scans and virtual holding-hair-away for those still all to familiar with the toilet bowl.

No vomiting for me (as yet), didn't get any at all last time, but I appear to have sprouted a food baby after last night's double yogurt coated banana chips escapade blush. That didn't make for a good's night sleep, nor did the student house party that only ended at 5am!!! It wasn't even on my street and I could still hear it. sigh.

Am really fighting the temptation to go out and buy some more sticks to pee on as 13 days seems such a long time for a scan. I may cave (on both fronts). Anyone who has had a 7wk scan, what could you see/hear? Should I just book one now (at 6+3) for next Thursday (7+1) or hold out an extra week? Aaargh!!! The second time around was supposed to be so much easier.

LittlePeaPod Sat 01-Jun-13 14:35:58

Rosalaux. I had my first scan at 6+4. If you have a look on my profile pictures you can see read what we saw. smile

rosalux Sat 01-Jun-13 15:41:30

thanks LittlePea the pictures are so cute. unfortunately this hasn't made my thinking any clearer at all confused

Marking place. pod your scans are ACE!

Marking place smile Been on a long walk this afternoon, and boy am I tired! Zzzzzzz.

farmersdaughter Sat 01-Jun-13 18:21:00

Marking my place.

I can't keep up at all. It's moving too fast.

Today I have been mostly eating salt and vinegar crips! Haven't been sick, but I have that horrid feeling that I'm going to be sick. It will only get worse i'm sure. Also had a funny tummy today. Marvellous confused

How is everyone else feeling this evening? We have spent a large amount of today messy around in the garden or running to the loo blush We brought DD a sandpit a few months ago and this sunny weather has seen it used loads. Sadly quiet please I have been able to get 2 loads of washing done and air dryed too. God I'm SAD.

I was wondering how many of you who are on DC2 + will be finding out the sex at 20 weeks? We didn't find out with DD and I was utterly delighted with a girl secretly would love another girl not sure if we should find out or not?

Not sure who puts the info list together but for cut and paste purposes:

Farmersdaughter, 31, DC2 EED: 24th Jan

BlueEyedLass Sat 01-Jun-13 19:15:45

Hi, am expecting dc3 at the end of January grin grin grin

Its good to share the news actually as there is no one else I can tell. I haven't even told H yet, as after 13yrs together he decided to leave a couple of weeks ago, so I am a single parent for the first time in my life.

I am trying not to get too scared by the thought of how I will cope as that may mean I lose the plot!

I need to phone the doctors as I am 6 weeks to sort out the booking in appointment. I don't want to though as it involves all sorts of tricky questions and talking about being a single parent will make it all very real.

I did very much want a third child so I am determined not to let his actions spoil this pregnancy and my happiness. I have two little girls who will be very happy when I can finally tell them!

I am already thinking about names - and this time I get to choose with no compromise every cloud and all that

TobyLerone Sat 01-Jun-13 19:39:34

Good news, pod. I'm so glad everything was ok. I was thinking about you (and a bit worried when you didn't update), so I'm really pleased for you smile

I've read everything, but I'm getting confused with 2 threads and I feel horrific today! Really sick. I'm desperate for clothes that will hide my belly a few more weeks. It's getting ridiculous now. And my boobs have grown 3 cup sizes. So we had to go into town and do some shopping. I tried on a million bras in Debenhams and eventually bought one. Then couldn't find a maxi dress anywhere which would fit over my enormous 34F boobs and not swamp the rest of me, so we went to Matalan instead. On the way there, I started to feel horribly sick. Grabbed the first elasticated-top dress I could find, made DH carry it, paid and left. I've no idea if I even like it! Made dinner (DS did most of it) and ate some because I was starving and was sure I'd feel better if I ate, but I still feel really pukey. I've had to give in and take one of my tablets, but they knock me out so I don't like doing it.

So anyway, commiserations to those feeling crap.

Hi Blue. Sorry to hear about your slightly crappy circumstances sad You'll be fine, though. And you're right -- now you get to make the decisions!

Toothfairy78 Sat 01-Jun-13 22:25:24

I went shopping on a rare trip to Westfield today and bought a bunch oh belly bands. Reckon I'm gonna need them in the not too distant. Also invested in comfy Geox shoes, bra extenders, waistband extenders and those cunning buttons with the stretchy loops on. I also want some Belly Ups but they don't seem to sell them in the UK. May buy some cheap braces and modify them...

I'm getting ready!

And fat, yeah, I know...

And for the record:
Toothfairy78, 34, DC1, EDD 6th Jan

farmersdaughter Sat 01-Jun-13 22:28:07

blue oh my gosh. You must be gong through a whole sack of emotions. How old are your girls? I am sure they will be utterly delighted when you tell them! Something for you all the look forward too. Don't worry about the booking app, I'm sure the MW has heard lots if stories.

toby I hear you. Clothes are already starting to become a issue and I'm only 6 weeks {ekk} Need a sleep bra as its getting very uncomfortable and heavy.

MrsGSR Sun 02-Jun-13 00:26:43

Blue Congrats on the pregnancy, sorry to hear about your H. I think there is also a lone parents section on here you could have a look at if your feeling overwhelmed, stay with us too though smile

I'm having a nightmare with Bras, I hold all my weight on my lower body (I have a massive butt and thighs!) so have a small back size, I'm currently trying to find shops that stock 30GG sad Will have to look for a non-underwired bra soon as it's getting really uncomfortable. I've given up on jeans, bloated and a tight waistband were making ms worse so in joggers or maternity jeans!

Laura1408 Sun 02-Jun-13 08:19:35

Can't believe I'm having to work today! Tired and mega sore boobs, plus with no sickness yesterday I can tell it will be an all day sicknesstoday...again.
As for the bra situation ladies, the new jml bra is soo ridiculously comfortable I wish I'd brought more!
Time to get ready and go work this gorg day away, good luck all, hope everyone wakes up feeling a bit better smile

bluecarrot Sun 02-Jun-13 11:31:52

Blue - congratulations on your pregnancy. If you don't think reconciliation is on the cards, the lone parent section on mn is great for support ( or bitching about xp if needed) you should check it out. I was a single parent from the day I told DDs dad I was expecting and I had lots of support from midwives etc and was put in antenatal classes with other single parents. Hope you have plenty of RL support too x

Sad to see a few have left the thread since I was last on sad but also lovely to see the scan pics of others.

I got my letter through and the 12 week scan is actually at 11 weeks which will be perfect timing for us to announce the pregnancy at my birthday party smile

I've been craving some salty food too - chippy chips with salt and vinegar mainly. Though mostly I've wanted and enjoyed healthy food. Nausea and fatigue still strong and I want to weep at everything. DP said yesterday I was extremely quiet which was "nice in a way but also worrying" I think he was joking.

TMI. Alert : I have thrush and haemorrhoids sad feel too embarrassed to tell dp. Mixed with weeping, exhaustion and puking I'm not really feeling much of a good catch right now!

enormouse Sun 02-Jun-13 15:08:31

blue welcome to the thread and congrats on the pregnancy. I hope we can offer you as much support as we can x. MrsGSR totally get where you're coming from. I'm usually a 28D which is impossible to get at the best of times, I dread getting any bigger. Have you tried bravissimo?

bluecarrot I got my booking appointment too - it's at the moyle on 1st July. When's yours?

ladymalfoy Sun 02-Jun-13 16:34:38

Hello there. 9.3 here and MW ap on Thurs. Had early scan and saw and heard heart beat. Sore boobs here and tired and floopy but no real morning sickness. Just get the heaves if I lean over or down.
Anyone else having trouble sleeping? I just can't drop off despite the usual remedies. I'm finding my energy rockets at about 8pm and can't drop off til 3 or 4am.
Good luck all of you.

lass welcome and congrats, and sorry to hear about your 'D'H, but you seem admirably chipper about it.

MrsG I hear you on bras. Mothercare are ridiculous! Half their ranges only go to E cup FFS - these are 'MATERNITY' bras! I found one 38F (I am up from 34DD) and that was it. Same online. Fucking insane. Have you tried Bravissimo?

carrot ouch, poor you. DP will have to hear/find out much worse, I'd just tell him if I were you. That way he can have the shame fun of buying Anusol and Canesten grin

MrsGSR Sun 02-Jun-13 17:27:50

I'll have to try bravissimo smile I usually like boux avenue but they only go up to 30G

Hekkie Sun 02-Jun-13 18:37:33


9+4 here with my first. Feeling pretty good except for slight food aversion (mainly sweet things), tiredness and sore boobs. No sickness yet.

Feeling a bit weepy / sad this afternoon. Only our parents, my sister and my best friend know we are expecting. However, today I was congratulated in front of friends by my best friends business partner. I kinda did a weird look/shake of head and she swiftly changed the subject but I just know at least one person twigged. I feel like I now have to tell this friend as she's a very close friend, but DH really wants to keep it quiet until we have the 12 week scan. I also want to keep quiet too...

I also feel a little sad that my bestie revealed our secret - even to someone so far removed from the group. I guess she didn't think we'd all see each other so soon. I'm really confused what to do. If I tell the friend that overheard, my DH will be really cross. There's also a risk she doesn't keep quiet and our news becomes common knowledge. Do I just ignore today's blunder and carry on as usual?

Sorry, a much longer post than planned.

Ps I don't dare tell DH about the premature congratulations. He only wanted parents to know for this very reason.

Madratlady Sun 02-Jun-13 18:44:08

Having much less symptoms today, no real nausea, nipples not hurting. Still super emotional but now I'm worrying that I don't have the nausea or sore nipples today.

This pregnancy thing is stressful!

carrotcakecupcake Sun 02-Jun-13 20:24:01

Checking in; very excited as had voicemail from midwife today to schedule my booking appt! Finally starting to feel more real (and I'm not just getting fat from eating too many cakes...) smile

Mythreeknights Sun 02-Jun-13 20:26:20

OMG I disappear on holiday for one week and you guys notch up a 4th thread! Good on you chatterboxes. I just wanted to log my place as otherwise it'll be thread 5 before I know it, and say hi to all, esp Blue who sounds amazing and v strong. Is anyone else feeling basically completely floored? Too tired to move most afternoons, zero energy. Not much fun and I don't remember pg1 and 2 being like this. But hats off to those of you doing DIY / moving house / being active! Your posts make me feel better smile I'm 7 weeks now and with the appetite of a wolfhound, but still fitting into my normal clothes just for now....those stretchy bump band things look quite appealing...noooo, too soon!

MrsAVB Sun 02-Jun-13 21:50:33

Marking place... (There's still 65 posts to fill on Fred 3!) xxx

TarkaTheOtter Sun 02-Jun-13 22:03:00

Hi Everyone - nice shiny new thread!
I have my booking in appt tomorrow. Trying to find my notes from last pregnancy as I'm sure she'll ask me stuff and I've blocked it all out.
Hope everyone has had a nice weekend in the sun.

Frizz1986 Sun 02-Jun-13 22:48:28

Omg just done the most epic catch up of all time!

Congrats to the scans that went well its lovely to see that everything is moving along nicely, it seems to help make time feel faster for me.

Am back from my Beijing honeymoon and can eat (kind of). Feeling sick most of the time now but no vomming still so at least that is something. Travelling has really taken it out of me tho!
Beijing are 7 hours ahead and after only sleeping for 4 hours before our flight home, being awake for the whole 10 hour flight and then only having a 2 hour nap before bed and the 3 1/2 hr drive home today (thank god dh drove and i had a 45 min nap) i have napped for about 3 hours today but am dreading going back to work tomorrow sad

Def craving more savoury foods atm. Have no idea what that indicates but both me and dh are adamant we will have a boy as it seems to run in his family. We wont be finding out tho as want a surprise.

Have been lacking a lot of other symptoms other than sickness. Boobs are still fairly sore but think i am imagining them getting a bit bigger. I am one of those women who doesn't have a properly fitted bra so its hard to tell whether anything is growing lol.

Have my booking app on Friday smile at which point I will be 9 weeks. Still waiting to hear about my scan (was hoping i would have had something when i got home) Not sure when I should hear something which is frustrating. I really wish they didnt just tell you when the apps would be week wise, but also when you should find out about them.

Epic post after what feels like forever away and i def need to sleep now ready for my early morning tomorrow!

Hope people manage to find ways to control the nausea and sickness and that everyone waiting for scans soon get to see the beans bouncing around!

MrsVDB Sun 02-Jun-13 23:41:55

Just marking my place...

BuntCadger Sun 02-Jun-13 23:56:38

Hi again, fell off first thread and only just found my way back smile

Also feeling very sicky and having some cramps at times. Got booking appt Friday when ill be 10 weeks. Ill be under consultant led care again but hopefully be straight forward. This will be our 4th child, and based on last period of 27 march, edd is early jan.

My other 3 are ds1 13y, ds2 5y and dd1 1y

TobyLerone Mon 03-Jun-13 08:31:21

Bra fitting advice for those who want it. I've gone from wearing an awful, badly-fitting 38D to a really supportive 34F. It does feel a bit tight around the band, but I can already feel that my shoulders feel less like they're bearing all the weight, so the tight-ish band is obviously helping the weight to be distributed across my back.
Plus my boobs look better and my clothes sit nicer.

Welcome back, Bunt smile

Glad you're back safely, Frizz. Hope you got a decent night's sleep.

Monday is my most hated day. I clean for an elderly lady every Monday morning, and then go to my Grandad's to change his bed and hoover/clean the bathroom/mop the floors. It knackers me! And the elderly lady, lovely as she is, will NOT STOP TALKING. I'm not one for small talk at the best of times and she yaps for the entire hour about her son-in-law's kidney stones, TOWIE, politics, her friend who is blind...etc etc.
I am aware that I am an evil, antisocial cow, but I try to nod and smile. All the time, in my head, I'm saying 'SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP'.

God, I'm horrible!

It's lovely and sunny, though. I know that'll be her opening line grin

bluecarrot Mon 03-Jun-13 09:27:38

humpty I went to dr for advice/meds as I was freaked by symptoms. And there began the embarrassing exposed feeling I remember so well from last pregnancy! Think I'll keep quiet about it re DP unless absolutely necessary.

enormouse I'm 17th June at the royal. 2 weeks from today. V excited.

frizz definitely get fitted for a bra now. You will need good support! For maternity you should buy one that fits well when on the tightest hooks so you can loosen it as your rib cage expands.

Sammieantha86 Mon 03-Jun-13 10:03:21

Hi All, can i join this thread! I had a BFP last week and from the due date predictor i will be due 15th Jan 2014 :D!! First Drs appointment tomorro, exciting times!! Congratulations to us all on our bundles of joy to be!!xx

hi all! Not sure if should be posting here or filling up the old one. Too confusing!

Back from holidays, and to celebrate, have started vomiting. Hurrah hmm

Agree above with the well fitting bra comments. I went from a 32B to a 28DD when I was properly fitted, and it makes such a massive difference. With my fairly small boobs, it's not so much about having lots of support, but it still felt a million times better!

Booking in tomorrow. Had to sheepishly ring the midwife this morning to find out where it will be, as I forgot to ask when I booked! Oops.

Hello to new people smile January is a busy, busy old month!

Frizz1986 Mon 03-Jun-13 10:51:48

So getting all excited for booking app on friday and have just gone to the loo at work and there is a pinky shade to my cm sad
I know it's probably nothing as so many people have already had it but have just had this feeling from the start that something might go wrong and just have this horrible feeling that this is the start. Trying not to freak myself out but as u all know that is easier said than done. Will keep monitoring thru the day and hope it doesn't turn heavier. Won't bother worrying dh yet.
Just wanted to post as i know u guys know how I feel right now.

Laura1408 Mon 03-Jun-13 12:18:59

So today is the day I am plucking up the courage to tell OH that I'm preggers. This was an unexpected pregnancy as I was on the pill, and last time I got paranoid that I could be I told OH and did a pregnancy test which was neg at time, and he said that now wasn't a great time, etc etc.
This was at the beginning of the year, and so now I'm crapping myself telling him that this time I'm NOT paranoid, and three pt have got BFP on them.
My two worries are that he will want me to abort, which is soo not happening, or that we will split up, which isn't great but I know I could do this on my own. Oh my other worry is he doesn't make me get an abortion, but resents me for all time for not getting one.
God this is gonna be hard.....
Any advice ladies? Or am I just being overaly paranoid about the whole thing?

TobyLerone Mon 03-Jun-13 13:12:29

So how did you get pregnant, Laura? Were you both using contraception? Because basically, if you're having sex, there's a chance you'll get pregnant. Your OH needs to man up and take his share of responsibility.

Of course, fingers crossed everything will be fine and he'll be thrilled smile

Laura1408 Mon 03-Jun-13 14:55:39

Thanks toby no one else knows but you girls here, so just need some hard talk from someone! (Slaps face and gets real) smile
I'm prob worried about nothing an he'll be fine, but I know he won't like it at first, but as you say it takes two to tango, and I did my part, it just obv went wrong somewhere, especially after last time I was super careful about taking it.... Oh well, I have a super nice lunch to make him - late I know but he's on hols this week - and just go 'so I have something to tell you' and see how it goes. I'm sure he'll be as shocked as me at first but then hopefully he will get excited like me smile
(Crosses fingers, toes and anything else that can be crossed)

TobyLerone Mon 03-Jun-13 15:17:39

He is just as responsible for contraception as you are. If he wanted to make sure you didn't get pregnant, he'd have worn a condom. So don't let him blame you.

Good luck!

Laura1408 Mon 03-Jun-13 15:23:10

Thanks, ill update when the deed is done and the storm questions have died down smile

Apparentlychilled Mon 03-Jun-13 15:29:24

Hi all, I'm kind of scared to check in here.... I got my bfp on friday (due on 28 jan), so I'm nearly 6 weeks pg, and going for an early scan tomorrow morning as I had an ectopic last October. DH is away w work, so I'm going by myself and every twinge is making me worried (even though I know it's all normal). Feeling v emotional today. Roll on tomorrow morning.

Apparentlychilled Mon 03-Jun-13 15:32:32

ps I kind of feel like I want to tell someone in RL (only DH knows), but I know it's too early, and I really don't want to deal w someone else's feelings if all is not right tomorrow. So maybe that's why I feel weird today.

TobyLerone Mon 03-Jun-13 15:49:55

Hi, Apparently, and good luck for tomorrow!

Hekkie Mon 03-Jun-13 18:59:37

Apparentlychilled - good luck for tomorrow.
My advice - only tell people in rl if you 100% trust them to keep quiet.

Apparentlychilled Mon 03-Jun-13 19:05:05

Yep, those who I could trust (friends) have enough on without me bothering them right now (when my scan is only 14 hours away) and my DM and DSisters can't be trusted.

Laura1408 Mon 03-Jun-13 19:29:17

OMG! That went massively better than expected! After a lovely lunch I told OH and as slightly shocked as he was he was happy! Even wanted to tell his mum straightaway....so all my paranoia was for nothing, and wish I'd told him sooner now.
Thanks toby for helping me, am soo relieved now, and super duper excited about being pregnant now I can share it with OH :D xxx

Toothfairy78 Mon 03-Jun-13 19:45:54

Just booked morning off work as my mw appt is mid-morning. Boss'll probably think I'm on an interview! Pay reviews are in July so wondering if I can hold out announcing til mid July, when I'll be 14 weeks. Being pregnant makes you worry lot!

Toothfairy78 Mon 03-Jun-13 19:53:34

Oh gosh just realised I dozed off before hitting POST.
And a bunch of you ladies posted in the meantime!
laura glad to hear the announcement went well!

TobyLerone Mon 03-Jun-13 20:12:06

Oh, I'm so glad, Laura smile Brilliant news!

farmersdaughter Mon 03-Jun-13 20:48:05

Hurrah Laura brilliant news. Phweee. Men a funny lot, aren't they grin

So today has been much better for me, super tried however I haven't really felt sick at all today. Yah.

Very tried today, spent a large amount of last night awake due to a nightmare, in which DD and I where being attacked by a dog whist walking in a wood. Got myself totally worked up and in turn freaked myself out go and proper. I had the stupid horrid feeling the house was about to be broken into. Seriously what a utter muppet I am, didn't have any of this with DD hmm

Anyone else nipples standing too attention? I feel they could pick up a signal from Japan. blush

Need to re back through the rest of the days news, before coming back to everyone.


farmersdaughter Mon 03-Jun-13 20:49:22

*good and proper...

good lord!

sarahleanne Mon 03-Jun-13 20:59:27

marking my place on new thread smile

congrats laura, im glad he took it well,i was in a similar position to u smile it took dh a few days for it to sink in and then he was happy and looking forward to it .

evening to everyone else...i'll be going bed soon bloody shattered!!

BuntCadger Tue 04-Jun-13 00:02:47

Just popping in while I'm dreaming dd. had some horrible cramps today and very queasy again, got a mild temp too. Bah

Frizz - how are you now? Has discharge stopped? I remember spotting with ds1 and ds2. With ds3 it was because of dh and I having shenanigans blush. Hope it all settles down for you.

How did you all tell your oh then? Reading today's posts. I got dd and ds2 to hand dh a preg test each. Obv showing +ve. He is happy but said he feels a bit cheated as thought he had at least 6m of shenanigans lol! Can't believe how quick I fell as I have fertility issues (PCOS) and I'm still bfing. Only had one period and bfp. smile

Laura1408 Tue 04-Jun-13 08:18:19

Thanks ladies, I am so relieved! Now I can full on enjoy the sickness, sore boobs and itchy skin that has appeared lol smile
I will catch up with everyone's news later, have to face a 10hr today with little sleep first.
Have a great day all xx

sarahleanne Tue 04-Jun-13 09:57:39

morning- just popping in....whoever mentioned those kids sour sweets the other day THANKYOU !!!! theyre so amazing smile

Bikey86 Tue 04-Jun-13 11:17:47

Just catching up after a lovely weekend away. Went for first app with the midwife Friday...who had incidently called in sick so I had to wait 1.5hours for her cover...we were packed up and ready to set off on our hols. Anyway...all went well. I'm 6+3 today and really feeling the nausea now. Also, I went for a run with some friends last night and I just couldn't keep up...kept having to stop and felt so sick. It really worried me as I just thought I'd be able to carry on as normal but maybe I will just have to go on my own at a slower pace next time. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this or any advice. I would like to continue exercising during my pregnancy as much as I possibly can. X x x

Apparentlychilled Tue 04-Jun-13 11:50:45

Hey all, scan went well, but it looks like I might be less pg than I thought (due date is now looking like 1 Feb), so I'm going to mooch over to the Feb thread. Good luck to everyone and here's to easy pregnancies and babies who sleep through!

Mythreeknights Tue 04-Jun-13 12:14:14

I have my GP booking in appt on Thursday (am 7 +1 I think) so bring on the scan date...envious of all of you who have a 12 week scan date firmly in the diary. Does anyone else think there's nothing inside your tummy? Sure I am exhausted and feel sick most afternoons, but I still can't believe I have a baby growing.

Frizz1986 Tue 04-Jun-13 12:47:30

I very much think there is nothing in there! Feeling more nauseous every day though.

Spotting is still going but slowed a lot and cramping seems to be going too. Gone to a bit of a pale pink but can hardly see it so am assuming it's just that there isn't so much anymore so u can't see the colour as strongly (really don't want it to properly turn pink/red)
Called the midwives this morning anyway as hardly got any sleep due to worrying. They said if it continues call the gp and they might refer me for a scan just to double check.

I told dh by bounding onto the bed yelling if he could see a line or was i imagining it. I had also convinced him that it would prob take 6 months and bfp arrived month 2 (altho he sees it as month 1 as he didn't want to know when i ov'd so he didn't actually know that we started ttc in time for the previous month)

Really want this 12 weeks to be done with now. Can't believe I have only known for 4 weeks yet it feels like a lifetime.
Dont think it helps that i really wanted to chat with my sister about being pg (she has a 3 yr old) but telling her made her upset as they have decided they cant afford any more even tho she wants more. It's like I am rubbing it in her face so we haven't actually talked about it all sad as i don't want to make her upset.

frizz glad things seem to be settling down.

laura yay that it went okay, and DH is happy.

Hello newbies!

Oh, and bra fittings are a massive yy from me. I got remeasured as a 38F from 34DD, and the non-wired (hideous) bra I have on is the comfiest thing in the entire world! Ugly but worth it.

carrotcakecupcake Tue 04-Jun-13 15:20:41

Bikey Everything I've read about exercise says that its fine, just don't overexert yourself (easier said than done sometimes!) I'm having a hard time listening to my body and figuring out what is best. At the moment everytime I go for a swim I come home and fall asleep!!

Frizz1986 Tue 04-Jun-13 15:20:42

I think I should get myself measured for a bra but am trying to put off any and all maternity wear until I know that things are ok.

I know that is prob really stupid but so far am not popping out of what I currently own and they aren't uncomfortable yet (i think half my bras were too big before so that might explain it)

How is it that everyone's boobs are getting big and mine seem to just be a bit sore but doing nothing!

carrotcakecupcake Tue 04-Jun-13 15:24:23

frizz Don't despair smile I went up a cup size not long after my bfp but have maintained thay size for the past four-ish weeks with no signs pf further growth (and was never all that sore either).

marking my place on the new thread

Bikey86 Tue 04-Jun-13 16:25:40

Thanks carrot think I am just going to go steady then...and make some excuse to my friends (last night I said id eaten something dodgy!!

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 17:51:02

Ahha, this is where u all are! Thought the other thread was quiet! Ok, got some catching up to do....

Got my last private scan tomorrow at 10 weeks - excited but very scared as if we see a happy wriggly 10 week old bean with a strong heartbeat it will mean we have got past the point it all went wrong last time! Ekkkk! blush

TobyLerone Tue 04-Jun-13 18:03:24

Good luck tomorrow, Sultana!

Frizz1986 Tue 04-Jun-13 18:04:37

Good luck for tomorrow [sultana]

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 18:05:15

Thanks Toby! Feels as though it has taken a lifetime to get to this point! grin

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 18:06:34

bikey I would just pace yourself and listen to what your body is telling u....its frustrating, but hopefully in a few weeks the nausea will pass and u will have more energy again! grin

TobyLerone Tue 04-Jun-13 18:08:00

I've got mine on Sunday, when I should be 10 weeks exactly. Although I don't have much faith in them, TBH. They measured me a week behind the measurement the EPU got, and the woman at the EPU was very hmm that they didn't give us any kind of report. We're only going because it was already booked and we've paid a deposit.

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 18:08:28

frizz what a shame u dont feel as though u can share your excitement with your sister. Its not fair that you feel bad, although I totally understand where you are coming from. hmm

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 18:10:56

Thats not great toby. At least u will be able to see your bean progressing and I guess take any dating with a pinch of salt....x

Notsohorriblefeeling Tue 04-Jun-13 20:10:19

Sarahleanne, I am glad the kids sour sweets worked for you too! I normally Hate sour flavours.

First midwife appointment this Thursday (though have already had a scan due to bleeding, thankfully now stopped)!

I haven't told my mum yet, and think I may leave it until I see her in person, on a beach holiday in a few weeks. I am wondering how long it will take her to realise I have breasts for the first time ever, and understand why. Or would this be mean?

Frizz1986 Tue 04-Jun-13 20:57:54

Anyone else finding v frustrating all these celebs announcing they're pg?
When will it be our turn??

It seems every where I look these days there is either someone I know announcing they're pg or some celebrity! So frustrating! Lol

flowersfortea Tue 04-Jun-13 21:19:18

Hello everybody,

Marking my place on the new thread and trying to have a mammoth read to catch up!

So nice to hear about the scans beginning to filter through. I told my GP last week so hopefully should hear from midwife sometime soon and first scan presumably a few weeks later? By my dates I'm 8 weeks, although I suspect at the scan they may find I'm a couple of weeks behind as my cycles were irregular.

Telling OH - for me luckily was fine, a week previously had had a negative test on about cycle day 40 so then on the Saturday we agreed to wait till the morning. So having woken up really needing a pee it was great news to start the day! Quite fun keeping it a secret that day although our parents now know. Had a nice chat with my dad on the phone today (he's not normally very chatty over the phone!) and it was sweet how he was asking after me, any morning sickness etc and telling me to tell my boss in secret in case I need to go into work late!

Had a horrible weekend busy at work and feeling rubbish due to a virus. I was completely exhausted, so much more than normal and now a bit better so I think I can firmly place the blame on my sore throat and cold and not on the little one!

Is anyone else gobbling up the 'week by week' pictures/descriptions in the books? I'm trying not to allow myself to read too far ahead so I don't 'spoil' the surprise each week!

flowersfortea Tue 04-Jun-13 21:20:49

PS Completely went off prawn cocktail flavour crisps yesterday when, half way through a packet of crisps, I found the smell reminded me in a completely revolting way of some nasty body fluid smells I'd come across at work.

However, someone said last thread about going off tea - OMG - I think you win.

Sultanajo Tue 04-Jun-13 21:32:41

Hey flowers yy! I love seeing my bean progress - I was in Tesco earlier and saw some prunes which is apparently how big my bean is at the moment.

Ok, TMI alert. Note to self - must be more consistent with my pelvic floors. Allergies really kicking in - cue uncontrollable sneezing sessions, the last one ended with a little bit of pee coming out! That has only happened before when I need to go, but I had only just been, so where it even came from I have no idea! May have to start asking for Tena Lady for birthdays at this rate! Omg! blush

Gabbyj Tue 04-Jun-13 22:33:36

Hello all. Have just found out I am pregnant, which was a complete surprise as both my OH and myself have had fertility issues and after 8 years of no contaception didn't think pregnancy was an option! Am in shock! Excited and petrified at the same time! Will be 42 when baby due on 28th Jan and can't wait to be past 12 week stage...

extracrunchy Wed 05-Jun-13 00:31:49

Hi everyone! Only just got my act together and moved across. Hope you're all well. grin

MrsVDB Wed 05-Jun-13 07:40:24

Welcome gabby and congratulations!

Sultanajo Wed 05-Jun-13 07:54:06

Welcome Gabby! Mahoosive congratulations! How amazing!,grin

cosmickitten Wed 05-Jun-13 09:57:21

Welcome Gabby,congratulations what a lovely surprise :-)

Toothfairy78 Wed 05-Jun-13 10:06:40

Wow congratulations and welcome gabby!!

I have just got back from my first mw appt, to find dh still loitering about getting ready for work. So yapped at him about how it went.

Found out I put on 4kg in 5 weeks. Oops. blush

Need to stop hogging out so much!

Mythreeknights Wed 05-Jun-13 11:03:55

Congratulations Gabby that is amazing news - I can't imagine how overwhelmed you must feel right now!! smile 8 years is a LONG time to wait so this pg will zip by for you and you will have a bouncy fat baby in your arms in no time.

MrsAVB Wed 05-Jun-13 11:43:37

Congrats and welcome gabby - what a super precious bean! Not that the rest of them aren't...
Hope everyone is doing ok today

MrsGSR Wed 05-Jun-13 11:48:48

congratulations gabby!

Going back to what we were saying on the last thread MrsAVB I know what you mean about being compared to, she is about 20 weeks and only has a teeny tiny bump, I'm pretty sure I'll overtake her soon! I'm just trying to remind myself that during her first pregnancy she put on a lot more, and as this is my first pregnancy I don't know what to expect so shouldn't really compare.

Gabby what a lovely surprise - welcome!

MrsAVB I am sure no one will compare you to them - and if they do, you have the 'I AM PREGNANT' excuse when you slap them grin
Also, isn't every pregnancy exciting? I think they are - like every wedding being awesome. You don't gotta do it first to do it brilliantly...

Feeling sick (plus ca change) today, but yesterday was a killer - one slice of toast, some strawberries and a cheese sarnie. Food was the devil yesterday. Today, my sour Watermelon Slices sweeties are making me feel much better. What? Watermelon is a fruit.

Penny31 Wed 05-Jun-13 12:12:16

Just catching up on everything!

It's really exciting to see the conversation changing now to worries about weight, sickness etc from cramping and bleeding. Hopefully as we are getting closer to the 12 week mark we are becoming more positive and excited and over the truly worrying it time. There will always be things to worry about, don't get me wrong! Im now worrying about the test results that go along with 12 weeks. Just want everything and everyone to be healthy!

Now that I'm feeling much better I need to start eating better. I'm feel guilty about the lack of fruit and veg I've eaten!

Frizz1986 Wed 05-Jun-13 12:23:55

Wow congrats gabby. That's a long wait, you have more patience than I do. You must be beyond excited!

My belly is feeling very large today. Think that water retention had finally arrived as i feel very heavy.
On a positive note my spotting seems to have stopped and the cramps have gone. Juts need to hope it stays that way now. Fx!
Also had an excellent nights sleep so am feeling a million times better today.
Only 2 more sleeps (plus naps lol) until my booking appointment. Really hope I get some details about my scan date too as would love to be able to aim for another date milestone!

I agree with everyone else regarding every pg being amazing. I don't think there will be any less excitement. In my family I think there would be more as it would feel lucky there being 2 pg at the same time!

enormouse Wed 05-Jun-13 12:51:51

How lovely for you and your hubby gabby congratulations!

Agree with you penny I can't wait to have a proper bump. I put on my favourite summer tea dress and I just look bloated/ like I've had a massive bowl of pasta. I'm going to have to buy maternity clothes for this pg a lot earlier than my first, I think.

I feel much better today and the rage has completely gone. Might be something to do with the sun shining and my washing machine being fixed. smile

Had a garden picnic with DS and pushed him round on his trike. am a bit worried actually cos he's still not walking (19mo) and I'm dreading carrying him and having a bump. There's nothing wrong with him, checked with gp and hvs, he's just stubborn. Toddles and pulls himself up all day long. Am also sick of 'is he walking yet?' From everyone in sight.

hello all! Are we all on the same thread now? hope so. It's too much for my brain otherwise.

Welcome and congratulations Gabby! You must feel like you'[ve landed on another planet! (though a very nice one smile)

Had my booking in yesterday, all very boring, but the midwife agrees I should go for homebirth and seemed really lovely, so yay! Just got to keep healthy and low risk for the next 7 months now.

Ended up telling a colleague at work today when I accidently cried during a chat with her about something really minor/boring blush. Felt like such a twat. Thankfully she saw the funny side.

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 13:11:32

Congratulations, Gabby! How lovely smile

enormouse -- my nephew wasn't walking at 18/19 months and my sister was getting a bit worried. She walked in to the living room one day and he was literally running around! He saw her and sat down immediately. He'd obviously been doing this for ages grin

enormouse Wed 05-Jun-13 13:34:07

Toby that made me giggle. Almost every time his granny sees him she says something along the lines of 'oh toddlermouse, are you going to walk today?' Even if he's been standing up he'll plonk himself down on his arse pointedly and shake his head no. I'm pretty sure the non walking is for grannys benefit. I've come to accept that he'll do it when he's ready but I've been so tired lately it's been making me panic.

MrsGSR Wed 05-Jun-13 13:37:44

Glad the spotting and cramping has gone Frizz Fx it stays away smile

enormouse My cousin didn't walk until he was a year and a half, he didn't even crawl. All my aunts and uncle used to put toys just out of his reach and he would just look at them! He's now in his 20s and just got back from skiing in France, does gymnastics and various other sports so it hasn't had any long term effects!

enjoying I'm crying at everything and DH thinks it's very funny :/

That's so cute Toby! Although probably a bit annoying for your sister!

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 14:09:07

It was funny smile And my other nephew is 19 months and has only been walking a couple of months. He never crawled properly either -- just did this weird bum-shuffle thing. He did exactly the same thing -- just sat down whenever anyone mentioned him walking. My grandad kept banging on about it, but luckily my sister wasn't in the least bit bothered. She and I just kept telling my grandad "he'll do it when he's ready". And he did.
He was much steadier much sooner than my DS was when he walked before he was 1.

Penny31 Wed 05-Jun-13 14:12:19

YY on the crying. I old my boss yesterday that I am pregnant and cried! How embarrassing. Fortunately he is very understanding!

rosalux Wed 05-Jun-13 14:22:32

Well, I have totally caved and booked an early scan for tomorrow morning when I will be 7+1 by my calculations. I am both relieved and insanely nervous. FX.

Toby this happened to a friend of mine too. Her son is 20mths now and only just starting to take some tentative steps, so she thought. Then she went into the kitchen one day and returning to the living room a few seconds later, saw him quite happily toddling about. Busted!

Toothfairy I've put on about 6lb in the 3 weeks since I got my bfp (just under 3 weeks actually) blush. I don't know what I put on last time since I threw the scales away shortly prior to my booking in appt (which was around 11 wks I think) and didn't step on any again for over a year. Don't stress though: 4 months after DS was born I was back to my pre-preg weight (9st 7) and size 10 jeans (then I fell of the wagon spectacularly, but that's a whole other story).

I bought a huge amount of salt and vinegar snack a jacks today on the basis that this craving is clearly not going anywhere fast and they are marginally better than the actual crisps i have been stuffing myself with (among other things).

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 14:53:25

They're sneaky little buggers, aren't they? grin

Good luck for your scan tomorrow, rosa.

chocoloulou33 Wed 05-Jun-13 17:20:25

Sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick SICK. That is all sad

MissMedusa Wed 05-Jun-13 17:31:17

Hi ladies, unfortunately I have to leave the thread sad

I had it confirmed on Sunday that the embryo stopped growing at between 6-7 weeks and we no longer had a heartbeat. The doctor said the embryo was an odd shape with extra parts so suspects it was twins which hadn't separated properly. Another doctor didn't see it that way so who knows. I've been spotting for over 2 weeks, just a small amount and always brown but it has started to get a little heavier now. Now I just hope to be able to pass it naturally as I had to have a D&C last time and I really don't want to do that again.

It has been nice chatting with you all and sharing this (brief) experience with you.

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 17:36:14

I'm sorry, MissM sad

I'm so sorry MissM Most of us have been in a similar situation, so if you need to talk, we're here xx

chocoloulou33 Wed 05-Jun-13 18:13:44

Oh missM so sorry to hear that xxxx

MrsGSR Wed 05-Jun-13 18:18:44

So sorry MissM sad

Gabbyj Wed 05-Jun-13 18:47:52

Many thanks for your lovely welcome. This is all very overwhelming! MissM, I am so sorry. Xxxx

extracrunchy Wed 05-Jun-13 19:12:35

MissM I'm so sorry to hear your sad news. Thinking of you and crossing my fingers for a sticky one the next time xx

Toothfairy78 Wed 05-Jun-13 19:18:52

Argh! So, I'm 9+2 pregnant after over a year of ttc. Been stuck in a rubbish job for yonks and resigned myself to staying after maternity leave plus a bit, then rethinking my career...

I have suddenly started getting headhunted, quite persistently. Why now??

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 19:23:38

Take the job, toothfairy!

sarahleanne Wed 05-Jun-13 19:23:49

so sorry medusa xx

sarahleanne Wed 05-Jun-13 19:29:36

just took my bra off expecting to have that achey heavy feeling and NOTHING.theyre a little sore when I press the sides but apart from that they feel ok.and I havnt felt sick today,....so this is where the paranoia sets in :s

Toothfairy78 Wed 05-Jun-13 19:29:38

Really sorry to hear that medusa

Sultanajo Wed 05-Jun-13 20:22:47

missm so incredibly sorry. It royally sucks! Really hope it passes naturally for you soon. Take care! thanks

Sultanajo Wed 05-Jun-13 20:25:34

Sarah its so hard not to overthink everything isnt it! It has cettainly turned me into a neurotic nightmare!!! X

Sultanajo Wed 05-Jun-13 20:29:36

Well had the final private scan today and it was like nothing I had ever experienced before! In just two weeks bean has gone from a blob to a proper little person who wriggled, kicked and punched most of the time! Absolutely gobsmacked! They have put me forward by 5 days too so am now 10+5 & due 27th December! However I will be sticking around with you lovely lot if thats ok? grin

Yonionekanobe Wed 05-Jun-13 20:40:16

Hi everyone - thread four shock

MissM so, so sorry to hear your news. thanks

Welcome to all those who have joined. Blue, what inspiring and brave posts, Gabby what a wonderful surprise and Laura so glad your OH is excited and Hekkie, Sammie hope you are both well and enjoying these early weeks.

I've been offline a bit as everything including scrolling through threads is making me feel sick! I'm also getting round ligament pain when I stand up too quickly which seems earlier than with DD. At ten weeks now and need to look through my maternity clothes already! I seem to have all the symptoms including some attractive spots this time round. All worth it in the end though.

Pod how are you? Any better? choco sorry to hear you're still suffering too.

sarahleanne symptoms fading in and out can be really worrying but is normal. I'm constantly prodding blush

Toothfairy if the finances work (ie not being eligible for full mat leave pay) take the job! Sounds like a good opportunity to move.

Penny, enjoyingscience. I'm another one who cries on my boss! Luckily he was great and very supportive.

Toby love that story about your nephew - toddlers are so cunning!

Sultana your prune story made me laugh - I did similar today with a date!

farmersdaughter Wed 05-Jun-13 21:13:03

MissM I am so sorry. Xxxx

TobyLerone Wed 05-Jun-13 21:35:53

Brilliant news, sultana smile

Penny31 Wed 05-Jun-13 21:57:00

missm I'm so sorry to hear your news. Take care of yourself xxx

MissM I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you are okay and that we see you soon on another thread. Take care of yourself.

Fucking shit day today. I hate my job, I hate my boss, I kind of hate my DH who is being a fucktard. I'm going to bed. Hope you're all okay.

chocoloulou33 Wed 05-Jun-13 22:04:16

Thanks yoni hope u feel better soon too.
Sickness 2day been rly bad. Struggling to get thru the day. Work 2moro so am dreading it!
Hope ur ok pod not heard from u in a while.
sultana lovely news to hear your scan went well. Of course u will be staying on this thread with us smile as if we'd let u move to dec grin

FidgetPie Wed 05-Jun-13 22:28:12

Hi all

Only just moved over from the last thread - I can't believe you are already on page 5 of this one!

We've got our 12 (well 13) week scan date through now for 2 July.

MissM - really sorry to hear your news, take care of yourself.

MrsGSR Wed 05-Jun-13 22:31:49

sad humpty I hope tomorrow is a better day

Mac2014 Wed 05-Jun-13 22:33:06

missm the biggest of hugs. So sorry to hear your news. Xx

extracrunchy Wed 05-Jun-13 22:47:10

Sultanajo you're ahead of me now!! Lovely to hear re scan. So exciting!

I still haven't had 12 week scan appointment and am now 10+4. Should I be worried...?

curlywurlyllass Thu 06-Jun-13 05:56:15

Im still petrified to post here in case things go wrong.
My heart goes out to those ladies that have sadly left us already- I've been in your shoes 3 times n its so hard

im counting the sleeps till my next scan with fear-was dated much later than i thought last week and i hope my next scan goes better (c'mon monday!)
So good to read that lots of you have had positive scans

Ive chuckled at some posts these last few weeks cuntpuffin awesome!!! and those sneaky not walking till busted toddlers! Cant wait to have stories of my own smile

Im trying to be more positive and look past the next few days, ive even watched a few OBEM's as ive never let myself watch them for fear of jinxing things over the past few years. Tuesday night tv is such an education/eye opener!!!

hope those with M/all day/sickness are managing to find some respite and edible foods

And those with job stress have an easier time. My nightshifts have just become easier as the client thats always high and challenging has been moved- next stress is coping with those pesky seagulls pregnancy rage that take joy in nesting on the roof (thought it was an intruder till one slid down the open window, i needed a tena lady!!)
Never been so exhausted in all my life!

Anyways, thinking of you all and look forward to chatting more

Curly x

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 08:11:42

Thanks toby and extra. When did u have yr booking in appointment extra? My scan date came thru around a week after booking in....x

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 08:15:02

curly I know what u mean about not wanting to jinx things, but like u I have started to do a few things I wouldnt normally. I bought some under bump maternity jeans, because even my "fat" jeans hurt me at the moment and these are soooo comfy! So now I can wear jeans again! Did worry I was jinxing things, but decided to try to put those thoughts out of my mind.

Fingers crossed for your next scan on Monday! grin

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 08:16:18

Yeay fidget! Scan date thru - how exciting!

humpty what a cuntpuffin!!! Really hope today is a better day for u xxx

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 08:35:28

I bought some underbump jeans, too. But sadly they're too big for me. And all my other clothes don't fit. So I'm stuck!

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 08:37:02

Hmm had booking appointment at 8 weeks but still no scan letter..?

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 08:41:00

Curlywurly I got under bump jeans too! Thought I could buy in the lower size of the two I'm in between since the tummy's elasticated anyway. Turns out I couldn't..!

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 08:42:05

(Cos of my newly bodacious bum, which is mostly made of peanut butter)

bluecarrot Thu 06-Jun-13 09:22:31

Crunchy- I'd get in touch with the hospital. I think all scans at this stage are between 10-13 weeks and you will need to arrange time off work so I think you are far enough along to warrant a call. smile

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 09:28:51

Carrot I think you're right...
I'm just conscious of being a pain - last time was at a midwife appointment and saw her write VERY ANXIOUS MOTHER across the page. I wasn't aware I was being at all anxious blush

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 09:59:24

Morning all!
rosa FX for your scan this morning, let us know how it goes!
choco how are you doing today? Just want the vomming to stop! Have to travel for a family thing this weekend and am dreading the vomming and hiding the vomming. Especially since everyone will be talking about the other pg person...
medusa so sorry... Hope you are feeling ok and that a d&c won't be necessary. Lots of love, take it easy xxx flowers
tooth good luck with thinking about the job(s) you've been offered. I was offered a new job a couple of weeks back and it was really hard to come to a decision (I decided to stay put), and made me feel really GRR about being a woman and having to make these kind of decisions. I'd say if it works out financially and you think you would be happier there, and not too stressed out during pregnancy, then go for it! Or use the headhunting to negotiate something better where you are?
humpty CUNTPUFFINS and COCKWOMBLES! Hope you have a better day today and DH is behaving.
sultana lovely scan story, very exciting! Holly or Noel? wink.
I still weigh less than I did when I got my BFP. Lost 5lbs in the first few weeks but have put on a couple in the last 2. But I do feel like some lard has migrated from my love handles to my tummy... Everything still fits but had to undo the top button of my tightest work trousers yesterday (although have had to do this before I was pg too blush)
Have a good day everyone!

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 10:11:48

toby the jeans are a big for me too but am hoping a belt will take up the slack. Gonna try them later today....

Just discovered the most refreshing ice lollies EVER! Tesco Finest Pink Lady Apple and Elderflower! Gone down very nicely!

Have put on 2lbs in the last week - hoping some of that is pregnancy related rather than mini cheddars related!

mrsavb I really feel for u. We have family evening gatherings for the next two werkends and evenings are when I am at my worst. However, at least I am not actually vomming - I think u r very brave!

extra I would definitely call up to check on your scan date just in case. I think its very much warranted now!

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 10:14:22

Oh, MrsAVB, I wouldn't go. I am a big wuss. I'd say I had a bug.

Sultana, you keep tempting me with these apple flavoured things! They sound delicious and I may have to break my Tesco embargo to get some.

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 10:19:29

Those lollies sound yum!!

Just rang ultrasound - apparently scan is between 12 and 14 weeks and they send letters out the week before. LAME.

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 10:19:59

sultana those lollies sound great.
I am really tempted not to go this weekend. It would be ok if ppl knew, but I just don't feel ready to tell yet... X

extracrunchy Thu 06-Jun-13 10:40:02

I wouldn't go MrsA... Tummy bug or something!

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 10:41:33

Sultana - those lollies do sound fab! and MrsAVB - I would also be a coward and say I had a bug - good luck!

Have got proper pregnancy grumpymones at the moment - not helped by my line manager "announcing" my news in passing at a meeting at work. Am struggling very hard not to have a complete stampy tantrum. She actually said beforehand, this is a secret, but... Honestly, she's a nurse - you'd think they'd know about blooming discretion angry - I only know because one of the managers came and gave me the heads up afterwards!

Sorry - bit ranty!!!

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 10:50:48

Gabby grrrr! Thats really out of order! Not surprised you are grumpy! angry

mrsavb I too would wimp out! Am such a wuss!

extra that is totally lame but I guess at least u know they havent forgotten you!

Toby the lollies are really mildly flavoured! May have to go and get some more today....grin

MrsMLB Thu 06-Jun-13 11:00:08

Hey all :-)
Newbie here - EDD 27th Jan....not seeing midwife till the 18th and this is my first so here to do some good reading :-B

MrsG thank you.

extra that is lame. Very lame. Also 12-14 weeks - isn't there a test you have to have before 13 weeks? The NT? Or am I misremembering? Bloody NHS. So late with everything.

curly hello! Welcome.

underbump jeans hmmmm, yes, I think I could go for those. The old hairband 'expander' trick is starting to be too little extra, so I might go for that. Do you get your normal (!) size?

MrsAVB hope you get through the weekend okay, I don't envy you that. My lovely mate (who already knows) invited me for Sunday lunch, I turned green, she hastily retracted the invite! It's not easy (being green...)

sultana those lollies sound amazing. Mmmmmmmm.

DH is still being a cockwomble. He came home pissed again last night, after not bothering to let me know he was going to be out. I'd been to see a friend, and would have stayed for dinner if I'd known he was out, but he didn't bother to let me know.

This happens constantly. He claims his phone died - it didn't because a) I rang it and it rang (i.e. not straight to voicemail) and b) after leaving him a shitty 'where are you' message, he coincidentally five minutes later borrowed a colleague's phone to call me and let me know he was out. hmm

He then woke me up when he got home, and I stormed off to the spare room in a huff to get some sleep - when he's pissed, he snores and groans and thrashes all night.

Then today he sends me a lame 'oh, yeah, sorry I've been a bit rubbish email with a link to a Telegraph story about pregnancy. I am so not impressed. I deliberately woke him v early this morning by crashing about. I intend to ignore and torture him for the rest of the week. Bastard. Next week is my most stressful week of the whole year and I don't need a week of being knackered in the run up.

Gabby that's a horrible thing to do, I would be angry too.

rosalux Thu 06-Jun-13 11:23:02

Just got back from my scan and all is well smile. Bean2 (DS was Bean) is in the right place and there is a heartbeat and he/she is measuring 11.2mm which is about right for the dates I gave. Feeling much more positive and have made booking in appt for 27 June (you self refer to our midwives), so am going to try to hold off on another scan until 12wks+.

Off to make some breadsticks for DS (who is at childminders today - joy) and move boxes around the house again so the decorators can start on DS' room next week.

Humpty really feel for you with your DH. When I found out I was pregnant with DS it was shortly before xmas and my DH went out to his work drinks the next day and got steaming drunk and rolled in at 2am with a cut face (he claimed to have fallen in the snow!) and I had to take him to A&E the next day. I was so cross I just left him there and he had to make his own way home. I then spent the rest of xmas on the sofa watching Downton Abbey and demanding back rubbing. I think he's just about been forgiven.

Frizz1986 Thu 06-Jun-13 12:41:55

So i booked an early scan. After almost booking one the other week and then deciding against it we have changed our minds again.
I know the spotting and cramps were prob nothing as they only lasted 2 days and now seem to have gone but it seems silly not to when we have found a place about 40 mins drive away that specialises in scans and they are only £50. It's only a 10 min app so a lot of money for the time but if it just confirms that as of now things are ok or not then I should feel a bit less neurotic!
Got my booking app tomorrow first thing (thank god as didn't want to have to carry a tub of pee with me all day) and then scan on Sunday pm when i will be 9 weeks so hopefully if there is something in there we should get a heartbeat!

I am still fitting into all my clothes but the bloating is getting bad! Am wearing a floaty dress at work that has elastic just above the belly so think it is covering it ok. And if anyone asks why I am all of a sudden changing my work attire I can point out that I haven't done any ironing as was on holiday lol.
Really want some mat jeans. The elastic waistband looks so comfy!
Hope everyone else is coping ok. Not too much further until the 12 week milestone has passed.

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 12:49:12

Rosa congratulations, am so pleased for you! smile

Humpty how childish of your DH and how difficult for you angry - I hope that things settle down soon...

Extra can't believe that your midwife wrote "Anxious Mother" across your notes - now you're anxious about being anxious! smile Hope your scan appointment comes through soon...

I am still in the slightly hazy shocked shock stage at present. It really doesn't feel real and certainly does feel too good to be true! My DD is 15 (from my first marriage) and I thought that she was a miracle (I have issues with ovulating), so 2 miracles seems slightly greedy! I am completely paranoid about this pregnancy and lots of people at work knowing (and not knowing who knows!) is not helping!!!

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 12:50:48

MrsMLB hello and congratulations! smile

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 13:34:30

Great news, rosa smile

Gabby, I would make a complaint about that. But then I am an arsey cow grin

Humpty, I would be furious about your 'D'H's behaviour. In fact, I'm furious on your behalf. How dare he be such a dick? Please give him a kick in the nuts proper bollocking and tell him to sort his life out angry

Frizz, I have my scan on Sunday PM, too. <holds hand>

I have been busy today -- I've sorted out our wardrobe, changed the bed, mopped the floors, hoovered the whole house and done 4 loads of washing. I've just had a big plate of couscous, potato salad and coleslaw and now I feel a bit sick, so I'll have to sit on my arse for a bit. Shame...

rosa yay! That sounds like a brilliant scan! I am also impressed at 'making breadsticks'. I can't make bread, let alone breadsticks. Your DH sounds like he was a cockbadger too - at least he made up for it with backrubs. What is wrong with men?

frizz good decision if it brings you peace of mind. Oh, and I just ordered some mat jeans from JojoMamanBebe outlet (only place I could find that does tall straight-leg ones) for £15. Can't wait to wear them!

Gabby that's lovely - so long-awaited, and so exciting for you!

Toby I will kick him in the nuts AND bollock him tonight. Oh, no - tomorrow night. Tonight is his leaving drinks at work, he told me a week ago and I agreed to him staying out v late, coming in steaming and sleeping in spare room. He really does need to sort his life out though - he's acting like a teenager. Now he's going to be on 'gardening leave' for 3 months (notice period) he needs to grow up and pull his weight and stop being a child.
Also, you def DEF need a sit down after all that. I did a massive pile of washing up last night and had to sit down after just that! Although I am envy of your potato salad. Mmmmmmmmmmmm potato salad.

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 13:52:47

gabby that's totally out of order
Humpty do what I did with my DP, be furious and tell him exactly what you need/expect. Ended up with him booking me a massage and apologising for being a cuntpuffin/cockwomble/similar
toby are you me?? Woke up at 6, did 3 loads of washing, cleaned the house. Ate some couscous with veg, watched DS distribute his about the place. He did eat most of it though. Now he's down for his nap and I'm veged out on the sofa.

Btw does anyone know if Mr whippy ice cream from the van is safe to eat?
Am dreading this weekend, housesitting for DPs parents and attending to their 3 cats (and 2 dogs and miscellaneous assortment of chickens). Can't refuse without outing myself.

Good luck to all those with scans. A little bit jealous but I love hearing about them

keskiviikko Thu 06-Jun-13 14:00:11

Humpty I second Toby's kick him in the nuts! Hopefully it's just that he's getting it out of his system before he settles down to being a dad.

My tiredness and sickness seems to have gone, only had it for a week, but that was long enough. At the moment it does seem to have been the only symptoms. The sore boobs went at about week 5, they haven't grown (thankfully, I'm 34GG as it is!). Belly is sticking out a bit, but I am on the rotund side anyway. All my clothes still fit and I haven't gained any weight. If I hadn't had 2 positive tests I would think I'd gone through peri-menopause!

The midwife has me at 9+2, due on the 7th January. So only a couple of weeks to my dating scan.

Vatta Thu 06-Jun-13 14:00:19

Just wondering, is anybody else really itchy? Is this a pregnancy thing or just random?

keskiviikko Thu 06-Jun-13 14:03:25

enormouse I was told yesterday at my booking appointment that I couldn't eat Mr Whippy ice cream.

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 14:09:41

Ah f**k. I shared a small whippy with my DS a few days ago. Thanks keskiviiko, you've just saved me from buying one today. I'll have to buy some tubs of ice cream tomorrow.

vatta yes, my eczemas flared up but it might be to do with the heat here.

MrsGSR Thu 06-Jun-13 14:44:43

humpty sorry your dh is being so unhelpful, he should be making your life easier sad

I might have to go out and buy some ice cream now!

MrsGSR Thu 06-Jun-13 14:48:00

Rosa really glad your scan went well! Good luck to those having scans over the next few days smile

farmersdaughter Thu 06-Jun-13 14:52:56

Hi all,

I'm read the whole thread and already can't remember half of what has been said. 7 weeks too early for baby brain? wink

It's a wonderful sunny day and hiding inside, feeling sick. DD and I are watching Peppa bloody pig. Must drag ourselves outside shortly.

How is everyone else?

Vatta Thu 06-Jun-13 14:58:06

Thanks enormouse - this is my first so I'm panicking over every weird change!

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 15:15:15

grin enormouse. Aren't we productive today?

I bought some gorgeous Sainsbury's fake Magnums (chocolate brownie flavour) the other day -- 2 packs for £4. And lovely DD went to the Co-Op last night with her own money and bought some fake Magnums for everyone, so we're fairly stocked for ice cream. I don't really like ice cream usually, but now and again it's nice to have one.

keskiviikko Thu 06-Jun-13 15:31:53

enormouse don't worry about it. It's only a guideline, if you told women in other countries the list of stuff we are told not to eat they would look at you like you were off your trolley! Can you imagine trying to tell a French woman not to eat soft cheese or half of Europe not to eat cured meats!

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 15:35:50

Hello! I'd been busy filling up the other thread to find that everyone was already chatting away over here!!

Gabby I would have been furious about that.

Keskivikko what?! No Mr Whippy? All summer?!! Did they say why? I thought you just had to avoid ice cream that could have raw egg in it & I would have thought that Mr Whippy was pasteurised to within an inch of its life.

Waiting to hear today if we've had an offer accepted on a new house. It's got a children's slide built into a slope in the garden & two rooms with little ladders to loft playrooms, next to a park & near an excellent junior school. Just our perfect family home so I'm on tenterhooks!!

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 15:45:19

It's to do with the nozzle I think - for Mr Whippy ice cream - can't have McFlurry's or any of that malarky for the same reason - my dh told me yesterday when I got excited about the ice cream van coming round! - he's been researching A LOT! Anyway, apparently germs gather in the nozzle and that's why!

Frog fingers crossed about the house...

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 15:50:16

I stopped eating Mr Whippy when I found out it's made up from powder. I try not to eat anything which is reconstituted from dust.

House sounds lovely, frog. Good luck!

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 16:06:05

gabby you just made me very sad. The nozzle germs would never have crossed my mind in a million years. I guess that means milkshakes should be out too.

Mind you i'm getting v v annoyed of being told every day about something new that I shouldn't do or eat! All that stuff about cleaning products & stuff yesterday made me cross. I use "green" stuff wherever possible as I don't believe chemicals can be good for anyone but it's hard to avoid everything. It's starting to sound like pg women should be in Victorian-style confinement!

I'm not going to start eating dodgy kebabs or drinking loads of alcohol (as logically that is a poison so reallly can't be good for baby) but if I fancy something & know the origin & trust how it has been prepared/stored I'm just going to eat it I think. I went to a really nice restaurant the other week & dutifully switched out the goats cheese course on my tasting menu only have it replaced with a white chocolate mousse that had probably been made with raw egg! But DP & I had been looking forward to the dinner for ages so I just thought fuck it & ate that, a very small amount of octopus and a runny quails egg. I also had a teeny tiny taste of each of DP's tasting wines. Had my 8 week scan on Tues & the Froglet is fine with a good strong heartbeat. Life is for living ffs! Rant over grin

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:09:40

Hi ladies

Glad to see you finished the other thread... Choco bet your happy.. wink.

Congratulations to all new ladies flowers

Congratulations to everyone with happy scan news and my thoughts with everyone feeling shit.

As for me, well just been released from hospital following passing out a few days ago due to dehidration and lack of food because of my HG. On meds now and hopefully the will help with the food aversion and sickness.... Chickpea is perfectly happy though which is a relief and jiggling away.

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 16:12:27

Welcome back pod. Hope you're feeling better - so sorry that you had to be hospitalised but good that chickpea is fine.

Sorry about the rant. I bet you would probably donate a kidney just to be able to eat anything at all & wouldn't care whether it was allowed or not?! Hope the meds work wonders for you flowers

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 16:15:26

I was wondering about you earlier, Pod. I'm glad you're out of hospital now and will hopefully feel much better soon.

I'm totally with you, Frog. I've been eating prepacked salad, goats' cheese and the odd runny egg. I've had to give up all the good shit, so I'm allowing myself a few 'bad' things if I want them.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:17:13

Ahh Frog don't worry about the rant.... If I could bear to think about food I would probably be pissedoff too.... grin

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:18:42

Thanks Toy... 9+2 so keeping everything crossed. Am one of the lucky ones that stop feeling shit at about 12 weeks.....

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:20:36

Begeez. I think the same person that said no mr whippy probably wrote that stupid article that came out yesterday. I know others will disagree, but I am just going to be sensible in moderation. Being pg has been miserable enough as it is already with all the vomming without having to avoid absolutely everything that might have a risk factor. And I need to eat the things I can stomach! I think bean has had an intimate relationship with toilet cleaner too by the amount of time my head has been down the loo. Am avoiding all the things NHS tells you too but not going to worry too much about the rest.
Welcome mrsm, and congrats!
humpty, your DH needs a smack. Maybe tell him that for every night he does it, you're having an equally lengthy and drunken night once baby is born (obv after BFing) and he will be babysitting. And your mobile will be "out of battery". I'd be even more pissed off if he's on gardening leave!

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:21:44

MrsMedusa just read your news... I am so sorry or your lose. flowers

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:22:31

X posted. pea have been thinking about you too. Sorry to hear you had to go into hospital. Are you taking some time off work now? Lots of love xxx

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:25:47

Thanks MrsAVB... Well if working from home counts then yes. wink. I know you are going to tell me off but I can help it.... Ha a ha

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 16:25:55

Frog I'm sad I made you sad. I totally agree that the number of things you have to avoid / not do / not eat / do eat is totally mental and I am guaranteed to want everything I am told I can't have because that is the law... Incidentally, the meal you had sounds fab - yum! Anyway, I am consoling myself with Cornettos! smile

Toby prepacked salad? is that not ok? The world has truly gone mad if that is on the list of things to avoid!

Frizz1986 Thu 06-Jun-13 16:27:01

Wow pod that sucks. Glad ur out and all is getting better.
toby I really want a choc brownie ice cream now! Will think of u Sunday too. Fx we both have happy news (am trying to stay positive but also being logical that things might not be ok so hopefully I can handle whatever happens)
As for all food things I am currently stuck eating crackers with cheese. Am a total found hound and hate not wanting things. I can't even stand the idea of pasta at the mo and i am a complete care fiend!

Frizz1986 Thu 06-Jun-13 16:27:52

At should have said carb fiend lol.

Thanks lovelies - I won't namecheck you all - I will be avin a word with Mr Humpty tomorrow. And over the weekend.

Mr Whippy is out due to temperature of storage not being constant, I thought - the bacteria might form if temp fluctuates? I don't mind, I'm an ice-lollies girl. Also - reconstituted dust made me grin.

vatta I am itchy like an itchy thing. No eczema (sp?) but I just itch. All the time. Including in unladylike areas. I can't develop crabs as a symptom of pg, right? RIGHT? I use Aveeno body lotion with almond oil, which helps (and sinks in without being gloppy). I've heard olive oil (neat) is also good.

pod welcome back, sorry to hear you had a rough time, hope you're feeling better!

frog don't apologise! It's fecking ridiculous - esp as advice changes. I would rather a list of 'these things are properly risky, e.g. liver (Vit A), pate, soft cheese. These things are a tiny bit risky, e.g. Mr Whippy' and I could make my own choices.

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:30:27

I'm not going to tell you off pea. I know I'm nowhere near as bad as you, but I refused a 2 week sick note too... to me it seemed a bizarre suggestion. But as I said you are much more poorly than me, love, and I hope WFH = WFbed in your pjs, and that your employers are being sensitive.

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 16:30:41

Apparently there is a risk of listeria with pre-packed salad. Yep. And there's also a risk of me getting run over by a bus next time I cross the road.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:31:09

Fizz. Thanks not had a chance to catch up properly. I assume you have a can on Sunday? Hop all goes well..

Just to add to the food debate (if you can eat that is). Did you ladies know we are ony allowed two small tins of tuna a week because of the potential mercury content?

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:33:49

I think if you have crabs humpty, that's something else to be having a word with DH about! grin.
Forgot to say I am itchy too, especially my hands. But I think mine has started since I started the meds.

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:35:09

Shit, does that mean I can't drink the thermometer too? grin x

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 16:35:49


LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:36:58

You a probably allowed the thermometer but not eat more tan two small tins of tuna a week.. grin

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:38:24

The drugs have one to my head.. I meant you are probably allowd to drink the thermometer bu you can't eat more than two tins of tuna a week... Ha ha ha ha grin

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 16:39:06

Oh, and I heard jumping out of windows is bad for you too. But can I do that if I don't eat the tuna and mr whippy?

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 16:44:53

If you jump out of the window whilst eating a Mr Whippy, you probably won't notice the listeria.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 16:46:00

Ha ha ha... Yeap, perfectly safe to do that. BUT no pineapple or papaya or fruit salads contenting either fruit.... And only two portions of salmon a week.... Aahhhh its the potential vitamin A this time..... grin

Bikey86 Thu 06-Jun-13 16:59:13

Don't forget ladies...that you must not eat shark!!! Because that is everyone's fish of choice!!! As for Mr whippy...its just getting out of hand. Also I heard 4 time of tuna a week...not two!

You lot are grin today. You are making me snort with laughter.

I heard you can die from guns and knives. If I don't do this, may I have some Brie? With a pineapple and papaya (pre-packed) salad, from a tin, in a New Car, with tuna, wrapped in one of those New Things Made of All Chemicals Which We're Not Allowed Now?

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 17:02:00

grin thanks for putting my worries into perspective and for helping me decide what to have for dinner. Tuna and jacket potato. BUT if I spontaneously combust/keel over/God knows what I blame all of you! I may live dangerously and have a small coffee after dinner (my first of the week)

Frizz1986 Thu 06-Jun-13 17:02:03

I knew about the tuna and am gutted as i enjoyed my tuna mayo potato on Tuesday.

It's because tuna are higher up the fish chain so the small fish tuna feed on slowly start to build mercury as they eat (because of what they eat) and as the tuna are eating fish that have eaten fish etc etc the Mercury content is much higher in them as they get all the Mercury that the fish they eat already have in them!
Its one of the few things I understand about random pregnancy no nos!

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 17:02:20

Damnit... <throws the shark back in the pond>

No SHARK? sad

That's dinner scuppered.

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 17:03:03

Don't forget to shower and moisturiser after humpty!

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 17:04:01

Damn I think the dr forgot to issue me with my fish portion tracker so I can be sure to keep track of the number of times I've eaten salmon/tuna et al during a 7 day period. grin

As a pescatarian they can just go jump as I have to get my protein from somewhere and I have been craving it like mad.

Oh & I'm probably not supposed to pick up the dead birds/mice that the cats bring in am I but until the midwife assigns someone to do that for me (as my DP was out last night & is too squeamish anyway!) I guess I'll just be carrying on as normal!

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 17:06:17

I'm sure you can get an app for that frog haha!
I thought shower gel and moisturiser were out according to yesterday's report too? hmm

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 17:07:29

We're having tuna baked potatoes for dinner tonight, too. With pre-packed salad grin

I know how to live.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 17:10:07

Ahhh. Is it two or is it three tins..... Not confusing at all.... Has anyone mentioned that we also can't eat........ Salami, prosciutto and other cured meats..... And nibbling on the odd human is also a big no no too... ...

Ohhhh just realised, I am one of the few people that is currently adhering to all the advice not that she has much of a choice What's wrong with you all.. grin

TobyLerone Thu 06-Jun-13 17:12:31

I bite DH on a regular basis grin

MrsGSR Thu 06-Jun-13 17:12:39

pod sorry you've had a rubbish few days (well, extra rubbish!) hope your feeling better soon

Good luck on the house frog, it sounds really nice.

I had a Mcflurry the other day, oops. there are far too many rules! Was anyone given anything by the doctor telling them what not to eat? I'm not seeing the midwife until next week and was just thinking that if I didn't have access to the Internet/wasn't so crazy I wouldn't have even thought about half the stuff they say to avoid

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 17:13:02

Everything's out. I'm just going to build myself an all natural organic hut at the bottom of the garden and spend the next 9 months there

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 17:14:26

Yep I've just checked MrsAVB & you can pay £1.99 a pop for either Preg-Plus Pregnancy Nutrition or Expecting Nutrition to become totally paranoid as you note down everything you eat.

Woah steady on Toby. You're living life right on the edge there. I think I'm going to have Quorn sausages & mash because as yet no one has banned Quorn but obviously it's only a matter of time.

Can you tell I'm in a grumpy mood today?! Woe betide Mr Frog if he's not on good behaviour tonight grin

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 17:14:32

<passes the halo to pea>. I hope you know mobile phones are out too? Oh and going to work when you've been advised not to? grin.

MrsAVB Thu 06-Jun-13 17:17:19

Ahh... But does it have a fish count clicker though frog? smile
I think cutting out shark has made me a little crazy today...

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 17:21:52

Not that I can see but it does give an example page like this:

Today your Zinc intake is 5.5 mg.
You still need 5.5mg to reach the standard today. Zinc is very important, come on!

I think I would end up throwing my phone at the wall.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 17:25:27

everythings out. I'm just going to build myself an all natural organic hut at the bottom of the garden and spend the next 9 months there. Ha ha ha ha ha grin

Frog I just banned Quorn... Quorn is bad for you..... grin

passes the halo to pea. I gratuitously accept the halo and put it next o my medical tag for ward 14.... grin

MrsGSR MW gave me something as part of the pack.. Never looked at t as I have not really struggled with not eating... grin

Vatta Thu 06-Jun-13 18:02:52

Humpty thanks for the tip, I am just heading to shops so will pick up some olive oil, the itching is driving me crazy (especially in the unladylike area!)

I have proper hormonal RAGE today, have been unreasonably rude to lots of people. Am thinking I should start a list so that if I get far enough along to tell people I'm pregnant then I can go back and apologise for being bitchy in the first trimester.

(Hello commuter I often see on my train. I'm so sorry about stamping on your foot then tutting at you a few months ago, it was the RAGE that did it....)

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 18:14:28

Vatta am right with you with the rage! I'm sure that the commuter totally deserved it grin

Everything's out. I'm just going to build myself an all natural organic hut at the bottom of the garden and spend the next 9 months there - so funny!

Toby I'm feeling daring too - am totally going to open the pre-packed salad - consider caution thrown to the wind! Have gone right off tuna though, so only halfway to rebellious... grin

Percypiglet Thu 06-Jun-13 18:39:06

Hello all. Loving the rantiness of you all. Glad it isn't just me.

I was also v annoyed by the stupid report yday, they will practically forbid us from wearing deodorant soon so we'll all be smelly, unwashed and sunburnt pregnant women with dirty homes, old cars and no nursery prepared.... What a load of old crap.

On that note, I am having a rebellious tuna and mayo jack pot tonight and salad....mmm. My DH is sorting it out after I've expressed serious pissed offness for him going out too much and spending money in the pub when we need to save it...

what is wrong with men and responsibilities? They have no clue. Surely he is meant to obviously drop everything from now on to make sure I, the mother of his child, am absolutely fine....!!!!! How can he think anything different?? My bollockings never work so not sure what to do next....?! Any suggestions!

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 19:02:21

Ahha, I bet the reason I had the shits in M & S this afternoon was because of the shark burger I had at lunch! Bugger! Not just the shits, but M & S shits! grin

Pod its great to have you back! So sorry u have had such a rough time! Really hope the drugs sort u out!

Penny31 Thu 06-Jun-13 19:03:42

Hahaha you are all hilarious! Pie and mash for tea here smile must improve my diet after today. Instead of my usual double chin I now I have a treble chin.

toby welcome back, sorry you have had a miserable time x

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 19:08:38

penny I had a sausage roll because thats all I wanted. Am just going with it for now because at least its something to eat....wink


I've seen the report, biggest load of tosh i've ever read. I think i'll join you all in a hut at the bottom of the garden!

I had the scan this morning, everything is fine with Bug mk 2 (not got a better nickname yet) they've dated me as 7+1, which is 4 days behind where my dates put me, but she says not to worry about it, by the time i get the 12 weeks it'll prob be more like the date it is supposed to be.

They've also said that the cyst has slightly decreased so just have to keep an eye on it. They've said that i'm supposed to have heard from the midwife so to chase it

Frizz1986 Thu 06-Jun-13 19:11:24

I am totally gonna use the advice to stay away from paint to ensure that dh does all the nursery decorating. Does it say anything about staying away from dust and heat cos I could really do without having to hoover or iron!

percy unfortunately my dh can be rather childish and irresponsible at times which is excellent considering he teaches science to 14 year olds! He can be pretty nice and look after me at times but when I am rushing around trying to sort tea as i need to eat before the sickness arrives and he mutters from his leather chair in his room (whilst watching game of thrones) 'do u need a hand?' Hell yes I could do with a hand! Lol

Penny31 Thu 06-Jun-13 19:15:47

My OH must've read the article, he has decided to clean the bathroom!!??? In the 7 and a half years I've lived with him he has never done that!

Sultanajo Thu 06-Jun-13 19:30:11

Hey frying thats great! Loving the name!

Well thats a turn up for the books penny! Cleaning the bathroom is my least favourite job!

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 20:14:34

We have a cleaner as I hate cleaning we are both so busy all the time but not sure I'm going to able to carry on justifying that when I'm unemployed! I need to wave the report in front of DP perhaps.

FFS. Just after I read all of your posts on everythiung being banned, I accidently ate a small brie and leek tart. Honestly didn't cross my mind until the last crumb went in.

I also ate 4 onion bhajis and now I have terrible indigestion.

Ah well.

Should make it clear, I'm still at work and that was a buffet. I don't normally make a dinner out of tart and bhaji grin

bettyboo83 Thu 06-Jun-13 20:23:54

What are the rules on crispy duck?? I've just had a yummy Chinese grin

vatta I was really itchy during my first pregnancy and my GP prescribed Doublebase gel which worked really well. You can buy in pharmacies if you didn't want a trip to the docs.

When are we allowed to wear maternity jeans?? It's def nothing to do with the huge takeaway I've just scoffed...

Frogcatcher Thu 06-Jun-13 20:32:48

Sure the tart was fine enjoying as the Brie would have been cooked right? I'm starving but waiting for DP to get off the phone to see whether he does want sausage & mash for dinner. Just eaten chilli crisps to tide me over blush & a chunk of cheese blush blush. No wonder Froglet is already appearing bigger than its dates.

chocoloulou33 Thu 06-Jun-13 20:34:16

Awww pod was wondering where u'd got too! Hope ur feeling better soon & the meds help. Still vomming here. Soo fed up of feeling shite. Am looking v pregnant so struggling to hide it as don't want everyone knowing in the whole school yet!
Lol at the list of things we can't have. I would just like to eat something & keep it down!!
OH at darts 2nite, gonna attempt little by little to sort out my clothes. Pointless all this stuff in my wardrobe that no longer fits! X

sarahleanne Thu 06-Jun-13 20:41:05

well ive been eating runny eggs,accidentally took ibuprofen today because I forgot I wasn't supposed to have it, and my sister whispered to me at a dinner party "should u be eating those prawns",she is pregnant with her first baby...I just answered her with "trust me by the time your on your 3rd you wont be so paranoid about what your eating".

Notsohorriblefeeling Thu 06-Jun-13 20:44:45

I saw the doctor today and one of the first things she said was to ' absolutely ignore the absolute rubbish in the press at the moment, RCOG should be ashamed'.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 20:55:07

Ohh Chocco its shit... Sorry you still feel pants... I am hoping meds help but just took sone and threw them back up.... Brilliant....

Heres a little light (funny as f..) entertainment for you ladies grin


MrsVDB Thu 06-Jun-13 21:26:38

Is anyone else not feeling broody about any one else's baby yet but really broody about MY baby?

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 21:28:13

bettyboo I might pull out my maternity jeans just to accommodate a Pringles induced tum

pod grin great video
Have you managed to keep anything down?

Well I showed DP the 'pregnant women must avoid everything' article and it didn't have the 'my God! I'll do everything from now on! You rest and put your feet up, you precious flower, you' sort of effect I was aiming for. He looked slightly blank and said "so how exactly have women conceived and given birth for the last 30 years?"

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 21:30:09

This is one that always makes me laugh

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 21:31:41

Crap, if only I could copy links properly

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 21:33:06

youtu.be/3cwYh3Qb4rc that should work (fingers crossed)

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 21:36:42

enormous I managed some plain pasta with a little cheese early this afternoon.. Sick later though but held it down long enough I think... Drinking some liquids again though so that's really really good... You DP reaction made me laugh out loud..... Ha ha.

Which video there a number of links once you click through? grin

enormouse Thu 06-Jun-13 21:39:23

The second one I've posted should work.

LittlePeaPod Thu 06-Jun-13 21:43:41

enormous. Brilliant grin

chocoloulou33 Thu 06-Jun-13 21:53:56

Just had a right giggle at those vids. Thanks pod & enormouse :D x

Toothfairy78 Thu 06-Jun-13 22:31:56

Thanks for lovely supportive comments and OMG ladies, you have been busy!

I sneak off to send my cv to the headhunter, go to work, cracked and told my bestie workmate I'm 1 scoping out a new job and 2 pregnant, went to my karate class (don't worry it's safe) and get home and...

You have put the world to rights on what we can or can't have, started wearing maternity jeans, managed to eat something, found some amusing videos which I shall check out shortly, cleaned your entire house, ate some brie and invented the word cuntpuffin

Which is completely awesome. I like this new word.

Right, onward to the YouTubes!!!

MrsGSR Thu 06-Jun-13 22:33:01

I'm already in maternity jeans! Normal jeans were a bit tight due to bloating and were not helping morning sickness so I've given in early. There underbump and a bit lose but I've been wearing long tops and pulling then up every few minutes!

Gabbyj Thu 06-Jun-13 22:39:14

Just had a complete mental moment as its my dh birthday tomorrow and I couldn't remember where I'd put his present, which I bought on Tuesday! Found it after turning the house upside down (which is difficult to do discreetly, but he didnt notice!) and then put it down to get a drink and forgot where I'd left it again! Is this pregnancy brain? Or just a very senior moment? Or both? Argh?!

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 05:32:38

Morning all....
Been in bed since 7pm last night, sick as a dog. The whole room is turning and I'm not really able to sleep properly. Unpleasant. Want to be sick, not being sick. Have forced myself to get out of bed and have some food, I've been awake since 3am...and I'm already just a bit feed up of feeling crap. We have visitors staying the weekend and our having a huge Sunday lunch with other friends at home, at this rate most people will guess I'm pregnant.

Hopefully it will be a nice sunny weekend, already looks nice outside.

What are everyone's plans?

Apologies for the self iIndulgent post but DH has fled to the spare room and I have no one to complain too about my lack of sleep and spinning sweaty head grin


farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 06:03:55

Forget last post, just thrown up 7 times. Yuk.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 07:15:58

sad farmers that sounds like a nasty bug. Keep sipping water if you can't manage anything else. I hope you feel much better soon.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 07:17:16

You might want to tell your friends you've got this -- they might want to cancel.

extracrunchy Fri 07-Jun-13 08:30:19

Farmers sounds horrible! Hope you feel better soon x

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 08:41:20

Thank you all, you think I have a bug really? I just thought it was morning sickness blush

Had a few hours sleep, feeling better but pretty tried. Will speak to DH.

Tummy hurts, would quite like breakfast but chucked up toast and several glasses of apples juice at 6am. Might if been the juice, no doubt I had too much.

MrsAVB Fri 07-Jun-13 08:48:50

It could be either farmers, or food poisoning? Do you have a temp, or diarrhoea (you don't need to answer that haha)? I'd call NHS direct. 7 times in half an hour is a lot.
Today my app very helpfully told me "be prepared for week 10, it will probably be your worst week for morning sickness". Thanks app, much appreciated hmm.

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 08:51:25

DH is working from home today. He's taken my temp, it's fine.j

Apart from feeling sick and a dizzy, I don't have any other bug like symptoms. DH remaindered me I had this with DD, and said not to worry too much 'as it will pass in a few weeks' that's for that darling!!! wink

Can't cancel our weekend guest but might cancel lunch. The smell of food even onions makes me want to throw up. Hopefully a shower will make me feel better.

Thank you everyone xxx

Frizz1986 Fri 07-Jun-13 08:51:47

farmers that sounds horrible.

I am just waiting at the day care centre for my booking app at 9am. Had some more cramps and more brown discharge last night and have had some sharp pains this morning along one side so have been rather worried. Be glad to mention it to the midwife so she can give her expert opinion instead of my speculating etc.

Hoping it all goes ok and the cramping and spotting stops and doesn't turn red. Am feeling stupidly nervous!

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 08:54:21

Mrs, Food poisoning highly unlikely. No Diarrhoea.

Lots of hand washing today. Will also change all the towels / hand towels too.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 08:55:47

The dizziness and sweating sounds more like a bug or food poisoning.

Good luck, Frizz.

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 08:56:43

Oh Frizz, Hopefully the MW will put you at rest about it. Try not to worry, if you can do this! Tell me how....

Before you know it, it will be scan time smile

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 08:58:26

Very hot here, think I got too hot last night. I'm a bit of a duvet hog and like to wrap myself up.

Take your point through. We see how I go.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 09:03:59

If I were your weekend guest, I'd appreciate a heads-up, just in case.

keskiviikko Fri 07-Jun-13 09:24:28

Farmers take care of yourself.

I'm glad you lot are as bemused by the list of things we 'can't' eat as I am. Needless to say I had sausage, egg and chips last night and dipped my chips in the runny yolks. Yum. I think the chances of getting listeria from most foods is horrendously played up by the medical proffesion. Told my French Mother-in-Law the list of things we are told not to eat and she was horrified.

MrsAVB week 10 is the worst for morning sickness?! good to know I have that to look forward to next week! hmm

Bikey86 Fri 07-Jun-13 09:30:27

Oh dear farmers that sounds awful. I have thought I had started with nausea last week but that was nothing compared to what I experienced at 5am...it felt like sea sicknesses. I wasn't actually sick and eventually managed to get to sleep but I feel rough, just managed some dry toast. I'm 6+6 today, when did everyone else ms start. Did someone say dry biscuits and sour sweets are good for ms?

Frizz hopefully the mW will be able to put your mind at ease.

Also has anyone experienced pain in their pubic bone area...I think it is muscles or ligaments stretching but would be nice to know if this is normal.

Sorry for the long post, feeling very anxious today for some reason. got another mW app today (at home). I'm worried about this because I live in a small village and someone is bound to see her car and tell everyone...wondering if we should tell our parents just in case.

Vatta Fri 07-Jun-13 10:24:54

bikey - the stretching/pains are very normal, it's the ligaments around your uterus stretching as it grows I think.

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 10:29:44

So sorry farmers - that sounds really rough! Hope its not a bug....

bikey my nausea properly kicked in around 6 weeks.....for me it depends on the day as to what works - recently it has been mini cheddars and ice lollies....haribo helped me last time but cant touch them this time..... I had stabbing pains behind my pubic bone for two days around 8 weeks....

Loving the youtube vids - thanks pod & enormouse! grin

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 10:30:27

frizz so great u have your midwife appointment. Let us know what they say....

Frizz1986 Fri 07-Jun-13 10:42:14

Mw app went well. She confirmed that I should just monitor the discharge and cramping and if it continues book to see my gp to get a scan (didn't say I had booked a private one for Sunday as I am a crazy worried loon)
She said it can be totally normal but if it goes bright red then get seen ASAP.
She reminded me that they can never be sure all is ok until the 12 week scan (which I was allowed to book and is 1st july)
You can have problems galore and then at the scan all can be ok so u just have to fx and remember that the majority of people are ok.
Thankfully dh is v positive about the whole thing!
Oh and mw was really lovely too!
Thanks for everyone's kind words of support. It's really helpful as it's not like we have many people to talk to in these early stages!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 10:45:48

Thats great frizz and as u say u have a reassurance scan on Sunday so only a couple of days to wait..... So pleased you have a lovely midwife - makes all the difference! grin

Naturegirl82 Fri 07-Jun-13 10:47:39


I've been lurking since getting my bfp a few weeks ago and thought it was finally time to introduce myself. According to lmp dates I am 10+3 with a due date of 31st December but I could be anywhere from 8 weeks+ (due to PCOS and stupidly irregular cycles and my thermometer broke so I wasn't charting after the first two weeks of that cycle!). Timing couldn't have been better as DH and I just moved into our new house.

I've been lucky so far, no ms just a bit of nausea, tiredness and a constant hunger for a few weeks (and chest expansion- and they weren't small before!). Booking in appointment and scan booked for the 17th so not long to wait now. smile

Anyway just thought I would say hi.

MrsVDB Fri 07-Jun-13 11:04:27

Not got any symptoms today so text my dh saying I was worried I got a text back saying its because I've eaten unhealthily and I need to 'pull my finger out'. I text back saying he should try having a constant hangover and I've eaten the same as him. I got this back "I'm not pregnant you dick! I'm only harming myself. If you can honestly say that you have done everything possible to give the baby it's best chance then I will apologise but I think you could have done more! I don't force you to eat crap! So fuck you" sad

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 11:10:19

Hi Nature, and welcome smile

shock MrsV. I actually wouldn't put up with that. That goes way beyond any kind of normal conversation. How fucking DARE he?! Are you ok? What are you going to do?

MrsVDB Fri 07-Jun-13 11:15:01

toby I'm fuming and sad. We had a mc last year and it feels like he thinks it was my fault when he says things like that. Yes I've not eaten very well but that message is out of order!

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 11:20:43

I think that at the very least you need to tell him that it is entirely unacceptable to talk to you like that, EVER. You're not a child, and you don't need him to tell you what to do.
You do know, don't you, that the baby will take what it needs regardless of what you eat? Many women (especially those with HG) survive on crisps and Coke for months, and their babies are perfectly healthy. Your miscarriage will have had absolutely NOTHING to do with what you ate or did not eat. And whatever happens this time, what you eat will have no bearing on the outcome.

How DARE he? I am furious on your behalf. What an absolute wanker. He's either woefully stupid or very misinformed. At least you might be able to do something about the second thing.

I'm sorry sad What a douchelord.

MrsVDB Fri 07-Jun-13 11:23:47

Thanks toby. I told him all that and he has apologised and just said he's sad and wants me to be healthy. I bought him a book to explain pregnancy to men so hopefully that will help. What a cuntpuffin

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 11:25:55

An apology wouldn't be enough for me if my DH spoke to me like that.

How about he cooks all the meals? Wanker

MrsVDB Fri 07-Jun-13 11:32:06

Yes I'm still not happy and ignoring him. I'm away this weekend so will let him stew (and clean the house!)

Bikey86 Fri 07-Jun-13 11:40:47

MrsV that is so awful. I cannot believe he has said that to you, especially at a time when we feel so vulnerable. Who does he think he is? A bit of support would be nice. Sending you a virtual hug...you do not deserve to be spoken to like that x

Vatta Fri 07-Jun-13 11:46:42

MrsV that's terrible. I honestly think if my DH spoke to mr that way I'd leave ( I would probably then reconcile if he was apologetic enough, and it never happened again), but he wouldn't even go an hour thinking he can be that disrespectful and still keep me in his life. Hopefully once he's done some reading he'll realise what a cockwomble he's been.

Bottom line, we're busy growing whole new humans - the men should be supporting us whatever we need!

MrsV fucking hell, I thought my DH was a cuntpuffin. That's atrocious. I'm shocked - esp using the mc as a reason. Maybe he is 'worried' but that's not okay. Are you alright?

You lot are still making me grin a lot, esp with your rebellious eating habits.
I think it's a v fair point that you don't actually get told any of this until the end of the first trimester ish (booking in appointment).

It's pretty hypocritical of the NHS to obsess over healthy eating/living and have all these guidelines, but then not bother to actually see pregnant women until nearly the end of the first and most risky trimester! I don't understand it, tbh, but I suspect it's a 'lack of resources' issue - my GP gave me no advice, no handouts, nothing except the referral, and I won't see anyone until nearly 11 weeks, by which time if I hadn't eaten carefully, taken folic acid etc, if those things were going to cause a problem, it would already be caused! Yes, I am intelligent enough to read up, and find out for myself. But there are plenty of women who can't read English well enough, or who don't understand the implications, or who don't have internet access, and they are the ones at risk.

Why don't you get a midwife appointment as soon as you find out? I know why, really, it's their cold 'oh well, you might not make it to the end of the first trimester, let's not bother' attitude, but that sucks. I'm hoping my midwife will prove to be ace, but right now, I feel as if there is no support offered by the NHS at all. I have no number to call (other than GP/101/999) if there's a problem, and I had to find the NHS baby emails myself, they weren't suggested by my doctor. I don't even have a list of local EPUs. Not that I can't find all this stuff - I can, and have, but I think it should be offered.

Rant over. I might have a runny egg for tea. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.

flowersfortea Fri 07-Jun-13 12:13:33

Afternoon all.
Mrsv I'm very shocked and sad for you. I hope you can have a wonderful weekend away and come back to a reformed man (with sparkling house and dinner on the table).

Nausea here is upping its frequency a bit but so far manageable if I keep my stomach full! So far my weight has been stable but this could be the start....

We're going away for the weekend too, posh country house hotel then not so posh travelodge tomorrow! Painting my nails and dusting off a summer dress in an attempt to look the part (ie a proper laydeee)...

Welcome to newcomers, and de-lurkers!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 12:14:46

Welcome nature congratulations! Nice to have u on board!

OMFG mrsv! The word cuntpuffin doesnt even begin to describe that! He may be worried and lashing out, but that is soooo unbelievably out of order! How does he think babies survive in third world countries FFS! Good he has apologised, but I would want to let him stew and then sit him down for a big talk! He needs to be supporting you, not treating you like a piece of shit on his shoe! Are you ok? sad

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 12:18:44

humpty I completely agree! My GP welcomed me with telling me 1 in 4 will end in mc and just checked I was taking folic acid. Then did my bp as an after thought. However, nothing further, so if I hadnt been reading up in advance I wouldnt have had a clue about anything!!

Gabbyj Fri 07-Jun-13 12:24:11

MrsV hugs. Maybe if your dh is so keen for you to be ok and healthy he could stop stressing you out? Idiot!

Sorry to hear you're so ill farmers. Hope you feel better soon.

Welcome back pod! We missed you! Hope you feel much better soon.

Glad the booking in appt went well frizz.

MrsV, as others said, cuntpuffin doesn't even begin to cover it. My dh is no angel, comes from a culture which, to say the least, is not exactly renowned for women's rights, can be very emotionally abusive but he'd be out on his ear if he pulled that one. Perhaps you could not so gently remind him that the rate he's going, it won't be any of his business whether the baby is healthy or not (which I'm sure it will be) because he'll have fuck all chance of seeing it.
Also, I think he should be referred to only as "the cuntpuffin" for the remainder of your pregnancy.

Vatta Fri 07-Jun-13 12:54:32

Had my booking in app today, and they've given me an A4 set of maternity notes that I'm supposed to keep with me ALL THE TIME.

Is that really right? She said I should take them to work with me in case anything happens while I'm there, but maybe she was meaning if I went away for work or something?

I've never noticed pregnant women suddenly carrying A4 bags everywhere so am hoping I misunderstood....

Frizz1986 Fri 07-Jun-13 13:01:12

vatta yep u really are supposed to take them everywhere. I got mine in the post with my booking and and completed it with mw today. She has kept it so that all my details can be put in the system and I get it back at my 12 week scan.
As i drive I am ok as can keep things in the car ready and available.

mrsv can't believe what that message said. That is totally unacceptable. Am thinking maybe he has just over freaked out and it taking it out on u which is a big no no!

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 13:27:17

Frizz - brilliant news about your appointment. Glad your MW is lovey makes all the difference.

Toby - I called my friend who's coming this weekend and explain everything. She going to call later and if I'm not better she won't come.

Nurture- bigs waves. Welcome. I this your first baby?

Mrs - holy cow, what a truly horrid thing to say to anyone. I am shocked and quite crossed on your behalf.

Humpty - eating habbits I hear you. Had a dippy egg last week, didn't even think about it until I'd finished the 2nd egg grin whoops!

Yesterday whist feeling sick I had a large amount of salt and vinegar Pringles and a can of coke. Felt so much better for several hours. Today, trying to be a bit healthier I had brown toast and a glass of apple juice and promptly chuck whole bloody lot up! So frankly I will eat that my body tell me to eat. Will be stacking up on the salt and vinegar crisps. Too bad if its not good for me, Permanent nausea is bad for morale.

Vatta - hell no, I didn't. Do take them if you go away, just in case. And carry them in the later stages too. I certainly didn't carry mine around my handbag. Lots of people do, up to you.

On a wonderfully positive note my darling friend had a baby this morning, 3 weeks early. Brilliant news to get. And I've stopped throwing up too. Woohoo grin

Thank you for all being so sweet to me earlier, made me feel much better thanks

rosalux Fri 07-Jun-13 13:27:34

vatta yep you really do have to take your yellow book everywhere with you (within reason). It's because everyone who sees you during your pregnancy will make notes and then all your info is collected in one place and easily referred to. I assume they make copies though, but if you go on holiday etc you should take it with you. Also, it's not actually yours to keep and after the baby is born they take it back (and hide it) so if you want a reminder you should make a copy before you go into labour.

Am loving the DH names - cuntpuffin is my favourite, possibly because I was hugely disappointed when I saw some on the isles of scilly recently - they are so small! I was expecting penguin size sad

rosalux Fri 07-Jun-13 13:28:04

I should clarify, I saw some puffins on the isles of scilly - not cuntpuffins blush

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 13:34:38

How are you doing now, farmers? Feeling any better?

I don't carry my notes everywhere with me. I take them to appointments, but that's all. Maybe later on I'll keep them in the car.

MrsVDB Fri 07-Jun-13 14:42:36

Thanks everyone. The cuntpuffin is now grovelling and I'm diverting all his calls.

Carrying round an a4 folder from 10 weeks seems ridiculous !!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 14:49:41

I was told to carry my notes with me everywhere as if I needed a scan they wouldnt do it without my notes. Well so far I have forgotten to take them anywhere, but I may put them in my car so most of the time they will be with me....

MrsGSR Fri 07-Jun-13 15:04:02

farmers sorry you're feeling crap, hopefully it won't last long!

MrsV I'm glad he's grovelling, the text was massively out off order! I hoe he does all the housework for the next year to make it up to you!

humpty I agree about not being given enough information at the start. Just a print out of a few of the nhs pages would be better than nothing, especially for teenage mums who might not think to look that kind of thing up.

I can't remember what else had been said (did we decide it was to early for baby brain or can I use that excuse?) we just went to asda and saw moses baskets reduced to £14, we weren't planning on buying anything till the 20 week scan but there were only 3 left so we bought it! I figured we could probably sell it on for what we paid if we decide not to use it smile

4athomeand1cooking Fri 07-Jun-13 15:18:52

Hi Everyone. I have been seriously quiet lately but good to see most of you still here.

Can you believe it has taken me all morning to catch up on the old thread and then this one.

We are just in Limbo here waiting for our next scan. Had a great MW appointment on Tuesday but came home to the smallest amount of brownish discharge. I have had pain all week in my right side so went to EPU.

The scan shows I am one week behind my dates. I know when I DTD and the date that I got my BFP would have been 6 days past. They have put me back 1 week to 5.6 days but I found out with BFP 3 weeks ago.

Because of this consultant thinks pregnancy might be slowing down and need to go back on the 18th.

We did see the HB though although Sonographer didn't say much. Thankfully they have found no reason for the pain and I have had no spotting since.

Re notes. I cant believe how much paperwork the MW's have to do now. I had to take a smoking test and everything!!!! I normally carry my notes once I get into my last few weeks.

MrsV what an utter dick. You poor thing. I hope he apologises from the bottom of heart.

Nausea feeling a bit better today. I'm thinking bhaji overload last night might have reset my system somehow <hopeful> Hope everyone else feels alright! Farmer yours does sound a lot like a bug. In the nicest possible way, I hope it is, as it might be gone in a day or two.

I take notes to appointments, but not everywhere. Maybe from 36weeks they might live in the car, but not before because my car is an unholy tip

((hugs)) to 4athome - what a shit situation. hope the 18th shows everything is as it should be.

Frogcatcher Fri 07-Jun-13 15:32:36

MrsV def cuntpuffin! My DP can be a bit of an arse sometimes but has been better about pg related stuff since we had our scan & I got my bad news about work.

Rosa LOL I really thought they existed for a moment there!

DP's niece aka feckless teenage mother forgot to take her notes with her to a mw appointment & they just wouldn't see her. shock at both how useless she is & that fact.

My GP hasn't even seen me & they had run out of Bounty packs so I have had no official guidance at all on what to do. I only know I'm not making it up cos I paid for a scan.

Oh & I managed to get another £10k settlement out of my employer after I told them I was pg & the offer wasn't enough.

cosmickitten Fri 07-Jun-13 16:21:43

Frog fab news about getting a better settlement from work.

Re GP I got a tiny bit of advice no raw egg, no raw meat, maybe less coffee. Then told to check NHS website.............not all that helpful. Then no booking in until over 10 weeks pregnant. Not great.

LittlePeaPod Fri 07-Jun-13 16:31:01

Farmer hope you feel better soon.

Bikey I started with complete food aversion at 6 weeks which progressed to full blown shitty HG (Hyperemesis Gravidarum) by the end of the week... Sorry cant help on what to eat be ause i generally struggle to eat anything. nothing works for me. So it could be your ms starting. FX its not too bad for you. With regards the public area pain. I had that, it's just your uturus stretching. It comes and goes..

Fizz lad our MW appointment went well and good luck for Sunday?

MrsV I am utterly applaud by your DH message regarding your food. There is no justifiable excuse for speaking to anyone like that. sorry i understand its not my place to judge. If my DF said anything like that to me, we would not be together and he knows it. It's unacceptable for anyone to be so nasty and rude particularly when you are feeling vulnerable. That's real disrespectful and shitty behaviour. I hoe you are feeling better flowers. Toby is right, I have HG. And I will eat whatever I can keep down. I don't care if its a fried mars bar or choc ice.....

Humpty I Am sorry you are having such a shitty experience with MW support. It shocks me that things are so different in different areas. I have seen my MW 3 times and first time was in week 4 just after we found out, even though she could not officially book me in till week 8. She did all my bloods at week 4 and went through food dos and donts then.. She then booked my 16 week in at my 8 week appointment and I have her mobile number and and emergency number if I can't get hold of her.

Well this working from home murlarky is pants.. Not doing much really. Sat in the garden drink (yeap actually drinking) vimto and not yet hurled it up. Also had 5 baby new potatoes (boiled with lots f salt). For me that's a real achievement. grin

welcome and congratulations to all the new ladies with BFPs flowers

Yonionekanobe Fri 07-Jun-13 16:37:36

Hi everyone.

Great news frog!

Hope you're feeling better and you have received a huge bunch of thanks MrsV.

Just back from my booking in. Bizarrely it took even longer this time despite the fact it was a case of checking over notes from last time. 'No, DP and I are still not blood relatives.' 'Yes, my paternal grandfather is still dead from a heart attack.' confused

My favourite bit was when the midwife refused to believe I am not, not ever have been, a smoker because their computer said I am...

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 16:51:15

4athome being in limbo is just awful. Will keep everything totally crossed for you!

pod what a massive achievement! So pleased for u! Long may it continue! Boiled new potatoes are something I quite fancy today....not sure I have the energy to go out though....

Having quite an emotional day today - nausea is +++ which is probably the route of it! I burst into tears because I dropped a knife on the fucking floor and felt too sick to bend down and pick it up! Also am now getting paranoid about the downs testing and am seriously considering forking out for harmony testing..... www.innermostsecrets.com/left-menu-items/Pregnancy/Testing-for-Down-Syndrome/harmony_blood_test.aspx

I just cant bear the thought of going thru all this and then getting a high risk nuchal result and ending up with an amnio which could result in mc and all could have been fine anyway! Worry, worry, stress, stress! Going to talk to DH tonight and see what he says - am really hoping he agrees with me. Will probably be a crumpled heap on the floor if he doesnt the way things are going today..... Wow, pity party much? Sorry ladies....blush

cosmickitten Fri 07-Jun-13 16:58:48

4athome sorry to hear you're having such a worrying time. The not knowing must be so hard. THinking of you x

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:01:16

I'm with you, Sultana. I'm worrying about that stuff, too.

TarkaTheOtter Fri 07-Jun-13 17:01:31

Sultanajo I've been reading up in the harmony test too, but I'd have the nuchal screening first and then consider harmony instead of cvs/amnio.
I had a risk of 1/160 (so borderline but technically low risk) from the screening with dd and it was quite stressful for a while. I was only 29 and most of my friends had risks like 1/10000. I'd almost completely forgotten about it by the end of the second trimester.

LittlePeaPod Fri 07-Jun-13 17:02:16

Sultanajo so sorry you feel so poorly today.. flowers

I know what you mean about about the downs testing. I am frightened that the tests may come back right. DF and I have already agreed to of for the ha money test because there is no way I am risking another mc.... It's worth every penn in my opinion...

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:04:50

When can the harmony test be done?

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:05:46

It has suddenly taken hold toby now I am starting to believe this little one may just make it. My main concern is if I wait for the nhs results I will be 15 weeks. If its high risk I then either go for amnio or go for harmony at that point which takes me to 17 weeks for results. It then seems very late to make any sort of decision as I know DH has reservations if it comes back positive. I would rather know sooner rather than later! (Actually would rather bury my head in the sand but as thats not an option.....)

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:08:44

I know exactly what you mean!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:08:55

toby it can be done any time from 10 weeks, but they apparently look at the harmony results in combination with nuchal testing which the clinic I am looking at using also carry out in greater detail than the nhs do. So if my dates are right and I am 12 weeks next friday that is when I would want to go ahead, which is a full week before the nhs scan.....

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:11:59

My midwife knew nothing about harmony testing, but I have been looking into it since last time.....

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:12:12

I think I will do the nuchal scan and see what we make of that. While we're waiting for the bloods results we can google discuss what we'd do.

sarahleanne Fri 07-Jun-13 17:12:42

mrsv his reaction was so harsh...but (and not excusing him) sometimes when men r worried about things they bottle it all up and then take it out on us.he is probably worried about another miscarriage or something like that.blokes can be totally irrational wen confronted with a situation they cannot control. im not excusing what he said, im just suggesting maybe he is worried and doesn't no how to channel his thoughts properly or in a nice way?

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:16:33

I have gone over and over it in my head toby and was very much on the same wave length as you until yesterday when I was chatting to my mum, who can be very straight talking, and it all suddenly became very real! shock

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:17:22

I could go for that as a bit of an excuse, sarah, but the "so fuck you!" on the end is utterly inexcusable. That takes it from 'worried and not sure how to channel it' to 'nasty fuckwit'.

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:17:57

Thanks Tarka and pod. Like u say pod, just dont want to take risks if I dont have to. blush

Toothfairy78 Fri 07-Jun-13 17:21:43

I made a discovery today, Craghoppers ftw! Mine are comfy and stretchy and I can get away with them for work! Wish I had more of them though!

And why are our folders so freaking big? If they made them A5 size that'd be loads better. Can we start a campaign?

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:24:53

tooth you are so right! Am sure more of us would make the effort to carry them around if they were smaller.....

sarahleanne Fri 07-Jun-13 17:31:24

haha yes toby I agree,althpugh I have told dh to get fucked on several occasions when he's pissed me off lol.
with the whole testing thingy, ive never had one of these tests before, I turned it down. I think if I was s far gone i wouldn't be able to abort anyway, so it made no difference to me. although it would give me time to prepare, but can u truly prepare for something like that happening? I don't know. I think maybe the risks are higher if you are older, is that right?

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:35:40

Hey sarah yeah the risk increases with age. Am 35 so getting on a bit.... Its very much a personal choice if a) you want to know in the first place and b) what you would do with the results.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 17:38:12

I'm 35 too. I still don't know what I would do with the results.

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:49:05

Harmony also checks for other chromosomal defects which are potentially incompatible with life (havent looked into this side of things in much detail as can only cope with one thing at a time), but have been looking at the mumsnet thread on harmony testing and everyone sounds really positive....

Its so difficult isnt it, as knowledge is power, but ignorance is also bliss!

My DH seems to have stronger feelings about the results than I do, which is why I feel I need to know asap, so I have time to get my head around things if needed....

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 17:56:34

Ok, have made the thread deep and heavy, so lets lighten it up....


Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 18:00:08

This one will be appreciated more by the "experienced" ladies who will know who michael bolton is!!! grin


TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 18:01:07

I <3 the Lonely Island.

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 18:03:31

Me too toby! Have u seen the "dick in a box" they did with Justin Timberlake?

enormouse Fri 07-Jun-13 18:21:43

Love the cats. I might have to do something creative with DPs parents cats whilst I babysit them. At least I'm reprieved from cleaning out the litter box this weekend. And thank God they don't have their 23 year old cat that looked like it was at deaths door for the past 3 years.

Sounds like you ladies are having a tough time of it. flowers for you MrsV and sultanajo

vatta my mw and gp said I only needed to carry my notes around towards the end of the last trimester.

twiddles thumbs whilst trying to remember whether I know who Michael Bolton is

Am off for an advanced driving lesson (pass plus in other words) in a bit and I can barely remember which pedal is which. Beware motorists driving on the coast road in Antrim tonight.

Bikey86 Fri 07-Jun-13 18:27:49

Thanks pea really hoping i don't end up with hg, it sounds like your having an awful time.

Well the midwife app went well today, she has been off sick for a month so wanted to catch up with everyone before her hols. We went through family history and she booked me in for bloods on 3rd July and 12 week scan booked over the phone on 17th July...brilliant service! On the subject of the nuchal test...I would rather not know but dh is adamant so I have to respect his wishes too. I think I will also look at the harmony test (should it be necessary) although I'm hoping age is on my side and reduces the risk...I'm 26.

Vatta Fri 07-Jun-13 18:37:01

Thanks all for your advice on the notes - I'll definitely take them to appointments and if I go away overnight, but otherwise I'll wait and hope to get further along before lugging them everywhere.

If NHS really wanted us to have them with us constantly, surely they'd be smaller to fit in a handbag! A4 is just too big! Maybe we could add this to the long list of problems mumsnetters will correct one day (after war, and poverty obviously).

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 18:38:28

Lol enormouse. A friend of mine was obsessed with Michael Bolton when we were growing up! Good luck with your driving!

bikey thats exactly it - when there are two of u and one of u feels strongly you have to respect that and go with it so you are both happy....

Toothfairy78 Fri 07-Jun-13 18:46:38

Awesome vid sultana!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 18:57:38


Frogcatcher Fri 07-Jun-13 19:08:52

My DP used to be obsessed with Michael Bolton blush He's seen him in concert 8 times. Not with me I hasten to add.

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 19:16:34

frog thats hilarious! My DH has had some dodgy choices in recent years, but he would probably say the same about me!

farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 19:23:32

Evening all,

Just checking in. Have spent all day feeling rough as shit. Had a few hur went I felt able to drag my sorry butt off the sofa to see a friend and get our nails done. had to put cotton wool up my nose to block out the smells. not such a great look grin
Till bang on 6pm this evening I threw up, 3 times.
DH said I went from a pretty shade of green to my normal colour in 30 secs. DH came and held my hair as as I cried down the loo. blush This time it was half digestive biscuits that made me run for the loo.

Oddly I was sick at 6am this morning too.

Wonder if this is a patterned.

Hope everyone is having a good evening, this thread is making me laugh. Funny lot. wink


farmersdaughter Fri 07-Jun-13 19:24:47

Bloody iPad.

I had a few hours....

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 19:29:40

"Dick in a Box" was my first foray into the joys of Lonely Island, about 4 years ago grin

Sorry you're still feeling crap, farmers sad

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 19:37:29

Toby my sides are hurting from watching them! Had forgotten how good they were! Class act!

farmer so sorry you are still feeling so rough. Must be something in the air today! Bless your DH holding your hair back! So sweet it made me cry <rolls eyes at self - what a sap>
Hope the vomming stops! Its so horrible! Can feel my dinner (pathetic as it was) thinking about making a reappearance....hoping I am wrongenvy

thatstoast Fri 07-Jun-13 20:04:56

This is my first pregnancy (and first post on mumsnet).

Currently 8 weeks with Booking Appointment/Scan booked for 26th June. At the moment the whole thing feels completely unreal, the only signs I have are lack of periods and, obviously, positive pregnancy tests (x3). I've not had any sickness, which I know I shouldn't be complaining about, but at the moment I feel like I'm going to turn up for my scan and get told that I must have made it all up. Has anyone else experienced this?

sarahleanne Fri 07-Jun-13 20:05:52

i like willies

sarahleanne Fri 07-Jun-13 20:11:27

oh my god ladies please excuse my dh's comment above,he has the mental age of a 5 yr old...as do most men blush

Vatta Fri 07-Jun-13 20:32:18

sarahleanne - none of us would be on this thread if we didn't like willies, so don't worry about it!

Sultanajo Fri 07-Jun-13 20:34:28

Welcome thatstoast & huge congratulations! Very natural to worry nothing is in there, even when u have tons of symptoms! Sounds as though u may be one of the lucky ones who escapes the horrible nausea and ms! grin

sarah had a little inkling you didnt write that post! grin

sarahleanne Fri 07-Jun-13 20:49:27

haha vatta that made me laugh. sultan thankyou,it means a lot haha. bloody men!! do they ever grow up, I think not grin

thatstoast Fri 07-Jun-13 21:35:43

Thanks SultanaJo. I know I'm lucky to avoid all that stuff, just want know everything is ok. Can't wait for the scan and hopefully I'll be a bit calmer, although possibly I'll just find something else to worry about.

sarahleanne do thank your husband for that message. I thought it was some kind of initiation for new posters. grin

MrsGSR Fri 07-Jun-13 22:39:54

I haven't caught up yet, and I know it's late so most of you will probably be asleep, I have a temperature of 38, no other symptoms of illness, should I be worried?

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 23:11:42

Why did you take your temp, MrsG?

MrsGSR Fri 07-Jun-13 23:15:34

My husband reckoned I felt hot, but I've just sent him out for a digital thermometer (I love 24 hour asdas) and the digital one is reading normal, so possibly a false alarm. I took 1 paracetamol but I doubt it would have an effect already, and I retook with the old thermometer and is still reading high so I'm guessing the old one is just broken (its one that you hold to your forehead and the Square changes colour)

I'm now officially a paranoid crazy pregnant woman.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 23:15:36

This says see a dr if you have a temp over 37.5 without symptoms as it could be a sign of infection.

Call MW/111 in the morning maybe? Just to check.

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 23:16:46

Oh god. They are super unreliable. If the digital one says you're fine, stop being insane paranoid and go to bed! grin

MrsGSR Fri 07-Jun-13 23:20:27

Yeah, I've literally took my temperature 7 times in the last half an hour. And then cried when it came back as normal. I'm going to sleep now and hoping to wake up a normal person again!

TobyLerone Fri 07-Jun-13 23:21:36

I like all your stories of crazy paranoia. I relay them to DH and then he thinks I'm normal grin

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 06:23:19

Sulanajo you are welcome. you need to do what's right for you and what helps keep you least worried. I was speaking to SIL (20 weekish with DC 2) about downs test etc. and she did what DF and I are doing. She says she felt so much better having had the extra testing (downs/everything else etc.) and she felt the private testing gave much more detailed results. She was in the NHS screening for about 10/15 minutes for downs where as the private screening was about 30/40 minutes and much more thorough for example. Interestingly the results were different! We are now booked in on 6th July when we will be 13+4 for private screening (downs and everything etc.) and we have the NHS screening on the 24th June when I will be 11+6. On a lighter note,loving the Jack Sparrow vid... grin

Sarah I am with Toby on this one. There is no excuse on earth that justifies MrsV or anyone else getting that kind of verbal battering.. It's bang out of order. He has has behaved like a total dickward.. Hope you are feeling better MrsV flowers and good on you for sticking to your guns. I told DF about it and he was really shocked and couldn't understand why anyone would think that, never mind say it. He sends flowers too.

Bikey hope you feel better today and with you on the respect issue btw....

Farmer sorry to hear you feel so pants... Hope you feel better soon..

Thatstoast congratulations and welcome flowers. It's normal to worry about every little thing... grin

MrsGSR hope everything is alright with you and you were jut having night sweats. My temperature levels have gone mental since falling pregnant. One minute I am freezing cold and the next i get night sweats.....

As for the MW notes.. No way Am I carrying that massive bundle about. My MW said I only need to take them to all appointments.... So today I have my wedding dress fitting/choosing appointment at 12..... grin. So looking forward to it... she says hoping she doesn't hurl on the dresses grin

MrsVDB Sat 08-Jun-13 07:04:10

Just posted this on another thread but have you ladies got any experience of this?

Over the last couple of days all my symptoms have gone and I just don't feel pregnant anymore. I'm also having thick white/ cream discharge only since my symptoms went. I had a miscarriage last year at the same stage and knew it had happened before it actually did if you know what I mean. I just felt it.

I've not had any bleeding or bad cramps so I don't know if I should go to epu/ a&e but I just know. I'm 7w. Any experience of this please?

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 07:21:56

MrsV sorry you are worried. I started getting the discharge at about 6/7 weeks and I still fe it now. In fact woke up with a load this morning (tmi). The is charge is normal unless you start spotting red blood. I ave also read lots of women have had thir symptoms come and go. But if yo are orie I would contact your EPU... I had a ms last time so completely under an how worrying changes like this dan be...

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 07:23:06

Sorry about missing words and miss types - bloody IPad pretext.... Grrrr

MrsVDB Sat 08-Jun-13 07:29:56

Thanks pea. I'm hoping the discharge is normal. Just can't shake the feeling that I don't feel pregnant any more. I don't suppose a&e would scan me on the weekend and epu is closed so ill wait to Monday and see how I feel. Meant to be going away with friends for the night but worried in case the worse happens when I'm there

Bikey86 Sat 08-Jun-13 07:33:34

Mrsv if it helps at all I have had a lot more discharge than usual and I'm 7w today too. I hope that's a little reassurance.

Pea so exciting about the dress fitting, when's the big day??

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 07:33:51

Honestly I wouldn't worry... I am sure all is well. No spotting and no cramping is a really positive sign. But it's so understandable to be worried following your previous experience. I remember been really edgy until I got to 9 weeks but even now I still get panicky... Try not to worry too much. flowers

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 07:34:42

We get married in 23rd September this year... Yeeaaaa. grin

Frogcatcher Sat 08-Jun-13 07:38:08

I get loads of discharge (tmi!). I'm also one of those lucky ones without many symptoms but I had my early scan & everything was fine. I can understand how you must be worried esp if you had a mc before but try not to flowers. Call EPU on Monday if you want the reassurance or if you can afford it you could always see if there is a private clinic near you open today.

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 07:39:48

MrsV. Here us a link that may help a little... www.health-and-parenting.com/yuck-vaginal-discharge-during-pregnancy/

MrsVDB Sat 08-Jun-13 07:49:00

Congratulations on the wedding pea what an exciting year!

I'm worried about the discharge as (tmi) it's thick. Normal pregnancy discharge is thin according to dr google And thick discharge can be a sign of mc . It's all so worrying.

enormouse Sat 08-Jun-13 07:55:31

MrsV I'm having loads of discharge atm and have had no ms and the hormone induced rages seem to be subsiding. but if you need reassurance I think you should contact nhs direct, if not your epu. Hope this helps a little.

LittlePeaPod Sat 08-Jun-13 08:08:45

MrsV. It's normal to have thick discharge.. Mine is and creamy white. In the first 5 weeks it was thin and watery but then changed to thick... My MW said that's perfectly normal bless it starts getting smelly (tmi)

Sultanajo. What's the pregnancy advice line again? Give them a call ^MrsV* They are really helpful..

MrsVDB Sat 08-Jun-13 08:11:04

Thanks everyone. Feeling a bit more positive after all the messages smile

Sultanajo Sat 08-Jun-13 08:32:35

Hey mrsv my discharge is also thick creamy and white. Google the Tommys pregnancy line - they are fab for advice, but are only there monday to friday I think...

pod its reassuring to know I am not the only one thinking along those lines. Other people have also had differing results with nhs and private. I will probably change my nhs scan to a purely dating scan if I go ahead with the harmony, who also do the nuchal as part of the package.... Jack Sparrow vid is hilarious!!!

toast you are welcome and yes, there will always be something to worry about it would seem!!!grin