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The spring grads are settled in, now BROOKING NO ARGUMENT for new summer grads and quick sneeze births!

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One last thread from me, Sparks hope you're ready, you're sneezing on this one smilesmilesmile

Withalittlesparkle Thu 16-May-13 15:44:01

Thanks Boo, Ive been busy today so havent been able to log on properly to start a thread!! I'll sneeze on this one as long as we dont get too chatty all of a sudden!!

cautiously marking my place, save me a place on the sofa! I shall hopefully be moving back here in a couple of weeks time.

Consider it saved Cartoon

I think this will be your sneeze thread Sparks you can make the next one, I thought I had better do one, the last thread was at 999 posts wink

ControlGeek Thu 16-May-13 17:45:11

Marking place ready for sparks' sneeze smile

Geek don't you mean you're marking your place ready for your BFP winkwink

ControlGeek Thu 16-May-13 18:07:35

Absoferlutely, but the length of my cycles I'll probably have to stim for a record 365 days and you'll be onto a new fred by then wink

Place marking for Sparks's sneeze!

SweetieTime Thu 16-May-13 18:38:41

Evening all thanks for doing the new fred boo

Sparks you have a few watchers ready for the sneeze. How are things?

I will share this link here too. It was the story the nurse was telling us about a single embie splitting into quads shockshock

I have my booking appointment tomorrow, so what do I need to ask? Do you get nuchal scans on NHS? or is it like IVF postcode lottery? I am not sure what else I need to consider really. Any tips gratefully received.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 16-May-13 19:02:48

Calm down ladies we have a few weeks till I'm due to big sneeze!!

Sweetie you should be offered the nuchal on nhs! The midwife should go through everything with you, when your appts will be, where you can give birth, what tests you will be offered etc etc I'd consider asking about special support for twins, antenatal class etc

Keep how you doing?

Marking place until I can think of something to say

sweetie depends on your area for twins. I couldn't here, they only do the blood test which is no use for dcda twins. Yours are dcda aren't they? Separate sacs separate placentas? If they do nuchal scanning its less accurate as can't be combined with the blood test so easily, I think.... On my twins thread I think almost noone had it. Ask for a good consultant if there's one you want in particular, as 60% of twin births are c section due to positions etc (LOVED my section, if i have another I'll not go vbac, much better than my vb!). Think that's it for twins at this stage...?? I have a book I can send you if you like? I'll look at title tomorrow, by an American obstetrician so a bit OTT but about twin pregnancy. and we have a secret twin mum sanity saver fb group of my mn twin mum friends we won't mention at this point . Can you tell I'm ridiculously excited for more Brooking twins?!

Anyone sneezed yet?

Oh, its hospital birth only for twins as its considered high risk, and you'll be consultant led care. In most places anyway. You need to be able to have help for twin 2 if needed. In our trust a consultant now HAS to attend a twin vb too after some bad outcomes.

Sorry sweetie that should be a doctor, could be a registrar not a consultant. Not that any of this is important yet, but it'll be a bit more restrictive than singleton pregnancy.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 16-May-13 23:21:16

The horror, I just broke the toilet sear!! Literally made me cry! I'd gone to the bathroom because I felt really sick, so sat on the loo seat, leaning over the sink and it just cracked under my apparently humungous ass!!! So mrS had to bring a stall into the bathroom so I didn't have to sit on the floor being sick hmm just feel rotten tonight

keepitgoing Fri 17-May-13 01:31:53

Oh poor sparks...

Sweetie are you OK?

I had some brown cm yesterday morning, so was/am v worried, though I know it's normal, and have had no more. Argh, 12 weeks today, was hoping to relax now. Maybe after next Sat's scan...

Dh got the job!! V excited.

I am on hold till next Friday but checking in when I can x

sparkle. I say blame the toilet seat. My 23 week ish pregnant friend, who's normal sized not overweight, just shattered a toilet seat. Faulty I say ;) . However hers was way less traumatic as not at home so not her problem...

Withalittlesparkle Fri 17-May-13 06:27:38

Keep that's amazing, so glad he got the job! Another local Brooker woooooo

A little bit of brown cm is normal, but if you're worried speak to someone

Withalittlesparkle Fri 17-May-13 06:28:29

Dream there was a crack on the toilet sear anyway.... MrS assures me is was breaking anyway

SweetieTime Fri 17-May-13 08:12:54

Sparks don't worry about the toilet seat, it is an excuse to get a new one. Have a look at this one I want one of these for my new house. It is lovely well as lovely as a toilet seat can get and I think it might be right up your street. Sorry you are feeling bleugh, hope DH is looking after you.

Keep well done DH on getting his job, at least you and kip won't go hungry now. 12 weeks OMG where does the time go, how is the bump coming along? Did you have a nice time away with parents?

Dream thanks for that, I have a feeling I will be classed as high risk due to my age, twins, first DC etc. Watch this space ladies as OBEM is filmed at my local hospital!!! As if, I am joking before you all go getting excited. I think I will be pushing ignore the pun for a c-section too. I have always been terrified of the giving birth bit and I think knowing I will be more likely to have a section has made me more chilled, if that makes sense. DH is keen to do as many tests as possible bloody men so I think we will try for the nuchal scan, even if we have to go private. I have ordered the book (Keep the one you recommended) but I think it is just pregnancy so if you no longer need your book I would give a good home or just let me know the title, there are a few twin ones on Amazon but not sure which to go for. Also did you have to take any additional supplements? I will ask the midwife today what she suggests too.

Hope everyone else is ok and ready for the weekend. Yeah!!!

GreenOlives Fri 17-May-13 08:37:53

Marking my place!

DinoSnores Fri 17-May-13 14:59:21

Marking my place too!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 17-May-13 19:39:44

Sweetie how was your booking in appt?

SweetieTime Fri 17-May-13 20:41:56

Well I am booked in, the midwife was nice enough but not very knowledgable on twin pregnancies. She did say as community midwife she deals with the majority normal pregnancies and I don't fall into that category. She has referred me to Multiples Clinic as Dream says for consultant led care. I was weighed and given loads of leaflets to read, no blood or pee tests though. She did write me a prescription for calcium & Vit D supplements as I don't drink milk. I have to go back at 12 weeks, she also ordered nuchal screening but didn't know if they do it for twin pregnancies so will ask the screening team to ring me hmm So that is it really, pretty much as I expected.

How are you feeling? Are you still feeling off it?

Withalittlesparkle Fri 17-May-13 21:03:52

It must be difficult to do a booking in when they know this early on that its twins but you're officially a mwepp, how very exciting!

I feel ok, I went to work today but now I feel sick again! I guess it could just be one of those things, like its my body saying its tired!!

We have our crib now too, so that's exciting! It's the one MrS used when he was a new born so its a real family heirloom, it just needs a bit of a wash down because its been in sils loft for 3 years! I'm only using sheets and cellular blankets so I'm literally ready for anything baby to arrive now, well the nursery isn't ready but at least he has somewhere to sleep if he does arrive early!

sweetie I was prescribed high dose folic acid when I first saw the consultant at 15 weeks which i took until 21 or 25 weeks?? I didn't know it was twins til 12 week scan though. I was high risk and i was 28 with one normal singleton pregnancy so you definitely will be. I have "everything you need to know for a healthy twin pregnancy" and I read the "double trouble" book too. If you want either give me a shout. With the nuchal scanning, unless your twins are same sac same placenta (mcda), if the blood test came back terribly, or one of the scans, you don't get an accurate picture. Especially if its the blood test, as you don't know which baby is causing the poor result iykwim? Then you'd have to go amniocentesis route which carries a miscarriage risk, then if you find one has a big problem and decide to terminate one you risk losing the other. Therefore most of the twin mums I know didn't go for it as noone would risk one healthy baby anyway, so why have an inaccurate test? Does that make sense? I'm vair tired so possibly not the most lucid smile I may have misunderstood something along the way despite extensive research so ask away properly yourself but I'd not bother. If they're mcda they'd both be affected so that's a bit different.

A crack you say sparks? Totally not your fault then!

<waves and scoots back to carry on sorting out the day's carnage to my house>

Withalittlesparkle Sat 18-May-13 07:37:04

More parenting classes for me today, by the time this baby arrives ill be the most experience/qualifies parent ever!! Fingers crossed for mummy friends... But what on earth shall I wear?!

SweetieTime Sat 18-May-13 09:21:38

good luck with the class Sparks wear something comfy. weren't you told to wear slippers? Hope it goes well.

Dream again thanks for the info. I am going to see what they say as I am not sure what we would do if we got a high result. it is a tough one.

Sorry I have been a bad brooker lately, I have lost the last 2 week's staring at K blush

Sweetie sorry the mw didn't have any better advice for you, hopefully the referral to the multiple birth clinic will come soon for you. Nice to see Dream here too. Let me know when you're up to lunch at M'hall smile

Sparks I'm dying to know why you had to take slippers, and what you ended up wearing wink Am I right in thinking you're just about to start your last week at work??
Keep hope you're having lovely holiday, I also hope there has been no more cm issues!!

K is still being dreamy, she is an actual person now, we have finally registered her, but she has caught a bit of a cold and decided today that any time spent not attached to mummy must be spent crying. I think I will be a sling expert by tonight!!!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 18-May-13 21:47:43

Oh bum what happened to my last post?!


Withalittlesparkle Sun 19-May-13 16:45:14

I hear by declare that the world must start to fit in to my napping schedule! It's no good if I go for my afternoon nap and the neighbours start to fire up the BBQ!!!

SweetieTime Sun 19-May-13 19:00:25

boo how is lovely little K settling in? Is it still a massive love affair?
We should defo do a lunch meet up at M/hall, I would LOVE that. Do you want to PM me some dates that are good for you?

Sparks how did your class go? Were the slipper critical to the course? BTW I have always loved a nap, so at least I have an excuse now wink

We have had a lovely day at Ripon races today, it was family fun day so very relaxed I drew the line at having my face painted DH won about £50 too so a very successful afternoon. It was a club trip but we decided to drive to we could leave early if we needed to but were having such a good time didn't need to.

Hope everyone has had a lovely weekend too, it has been a glorious day here today.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 19-May-13 19:16:24

Glad you had a good day sweetie!

Yes you're absolutely allowed to nap! In fact you're allowed double naps, you'll find your midwives will actively encourage it!!

Class was good, really interesting group of people! Have another session tomorrow but slippers aren't required at this session!! The slippers were because its held at a yoga centre which is an outdoor shoe fee zone, but the floor was laminate so really rather chilly on the old feet!

We now have our vintage crib, it's in the nursery but when Twinks arrives it'll be moved in to the bedroom, our main furniture is coming on Thursday as is the buggy and car seat!! Then I can spend some time putting things away and generally making everything look pretty smile

Only 4 more days left at work! It's all really exciting but also rather scary at the same time

Boo you have the best excuse for not posting much smile I'd be exactly the same!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 19-May-13 21:33:51

I'm on organisational fire.... Or am I starting to nest? Ive sorted all the washing out (clothes and plates) started tidying the garden and now I'm ironing enough outfits for me and mrS, I'm on a 4 day week and he is on a 3 day week!

NESTING gringrin it sounds like everything is coming together for twinkle to arrive, how exciting!! I loved the getting ready bit smilesmile

Sweetie I will pm asap (lots on with teen boo the next few weeks), can't wait to meet smile naps are actually prescribed for the diffed and yes Sparks your neighbours should definitely be working around your nap schedule wink your day out at the races sounded brilliant Sparks.

K is settling really well, and we are all completely in love and bessoted smilesmile I have just been sorting the clothes she has been bought, lots of pink shock I'm so not used to all this pink in the house!

Wow!! I used a lot of smiley faces blushgrin

Woo hoo 4 days and counting Sparks smile enjoy your last week.

SweetieTime Mon 20-May-13 08:05:09

Sparks counting down those last 4 working days with you. Nesting is good, not long now.

Boo I love baby girls in pink. My sil used to get reallyangry when random strangers used to say things like "what a lovely lad" and "how old is he" about her DD. Bit of pink goes a long way to avoid confusion.

I think all the fun and games over the weekend have caught up with me. I feel like I have been run over by a couple of buses! I was supposed to be on a day off today as I thought I might be hungover when I booked it. But I forgot to tell anyone on Friday so I might see if I can just have the afternoon and go back to bed.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 20-May-13 09:17:00

Sweetie defo work a half day if you feel rubbish! It's surprising how tired this old pregnancy malarkey can make you!! Don't forget you're growing TWO teeny tiny people, apparently your body is doing more work than it would if you were doing a hardcore gym session (I've never put that much effort in at the gym)

Boo I love little girls in pink too, not just pink but I don't see a reason why people get all bothered about gender stereotyping, putting her in a pink baby grow is not going to turn her automatically in to a bimbo barbie (I realise that's not what you were talking about but it really gets my goat) and it must be lovely to have a change (even though you'd have have happy with a boy)

Sweetie hoping you are tucked up under your duvet and having a rest!

Sparks you're down to 3.5 days grin have you got lovely relaxing plans for your leave?

I am finding looking at girls clothes has become a real guilty pleasure, I'm sure the novelty will wear off but I just can't resist blush I have never really been a pink girly girl but I'm really enjoying it now grin

SweetieTime Mon 20-May-13 16:21:59

I am up and at 'em now!! I had about an hour of duvet rest and feel so much better for it.

Sparks I am not a gym bunny, I don't think I have EVER been to a gym blush I do own some trainers though if that counts???

Boo I am not a girly girl either and wouldn't dream of wearing pink myself although I wore a pink wedding dress but would happily dress a DD in pink. I can imagine it is a pleasure, doesn't even have to be a guilty one, to look at all the lovely stuff that is out there.

The NHS nuchal screening woman rang me this afternoon as the midwife didn't know much about it for twins. She has put my mind at rest that all will be ok with my meds and the fact it is twins. She did say we should think about possible outcomes if one is high risk etc. I said we will cross that bridge when we have to. Like everything we have already been through we will deal with it a step at a time. She even gave me her mobile number in case I have any more questions. How nice is that?

And my pregnancy book has arrived from Amazon, I went for one Keep recommended before I knew it was twins. But I might take Dream up on her offer of borrowing the twin specific ones too.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 21-May-13 06:46:25

Sweetie that's the point even if you haven't been to the gym that's how hard your body is working!!!

Glad the nuchal test thing is sorted, I agree though take everything one step at a time! I had no idea what I would if I'd been high risk and figures I'd make that decision when the time came (obviously it never did)

Keep do you have a scan today? Not sure why I think that

I had another class last night, all about breastfeeding, just not sure I like how it's pushed!!! And the little smug look on the trainers face when she kept saying bf milk is truly terrific stuff! Bleugh!!

sweetie, yes, can post the twin books. I think a normal one is good too though, it talks less about normal pg stuff so I'm glad I had a normal one I'd borrowed with dd. I found it an exhausting pregnancy. I had one near miss for admission for hyperemesis, vomited it all bar about 9 weeks and struggled as my dd was so little and needed carrying so much, inc up and down stairs. I'd have loved a chance to rest, you must make the most of it. It's really important I think. If your cardiac output is up 40% growing one baby, imagine two!! I am a runner, and cycle (pre twins anyway, no time now with a non sleeper sad ) usually pretty fit, & I got so breathless on stairs and hills by the end, as you will be pretty huge smile

sparks, squee for all the nesting!!

boo glad k is doing so well, I agree, enjoy the pink!! I don't like the whole concept of girls in one colour boys in another so I bought clothes I liked, pink, blue and other colours too for my dd if we needed them though we've had loads of hand me downs so not bought much at all. Bit of a shame really, but can't justify buying when we've stuff she can wear, even if its not to my taste particularly... I bought her a lovely blue snowsuit, so every Tom Dick and harry thought she was a boy, but I don't care, I just corrected them and never found it an issue. It really irritates me that DT1 has a very soft cerise pink blanket he loves, that was never dd's, a hand me down for my boys, and if he has it in the pushchair people say 'oh, a girl and a boy!' without looking at him, he's not very feminine looking angry

SweetieTime Tue 21-May-13 12:25:49

Sparks in my midwife pack there were loads of leaflets and guides to breastfeeding too. So I would imagine the pressure will be on here too. You just do what is right for you and twinks.

I still feel remarkably well, hardly pregnant at all but I am still only 8 week. Am not sure if or when serious sickness should kick in. I really hope I continue the way I am but had expected to be worse by now.

Got intense one to one dog training this evening. Our pup is so naughty she just ignores everything we say to her. It is now at a point we cannot let her off lead on walks as she doesn't come back and terrorises other dog walkers. My DM is already hinting we wont be able to cope with her when babies arrive sad We have to give her every chance while we can.

sweetie Im sure you'll managed to have pup all trained in time ur starting now so there's plenty time. with morning sickness etc you'll be cursing it when it comes! but maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones who doesn't get it. I've know people who've had none and others that had it bad.
I'm still symptom free but what did I really expect at 5 and a half weeks. even my favorite the pregnancy spot as never arrived. not one single twinge in the womble or anything. slight lower back ache a couple of times but that's it, none of my usual 'symptoms'.
boo how are you and k?

sweetie maybe you'll escape the dreaded morning sickness? I was throwing up by 7.5 weeks with dd, bang on 5 weeks with the dts. 8-9 weeks I was on anti emetics in both pregnancies, also diarolyte with the boys, it was pretty awful with them. Fx you escape!! I know a couple of twin mums who had no ms. I hope the pup training goes well, good luck!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 21-May-13 22:42:25

Sweetie you'll be fine, pup just has a bit of growing up to do!! Fingers crossed you'll got through pregnancy with minimal symptoms!!

Twinks seriously needs to get off my bladder, I have a sneaky suspicion that he may be trying to engage, simple because of how much pressure is focused 'down there'

Last day at work for you Sparks smilesmile have a fabulous relaxing day.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 23-May-13 07:08:39

Thanks boo smile can't believe it's here already!! Feels like a big step in preggo world!!

SweetieTime Thu 23-May-13 07:54:58

good luck Sparks hope it flies by. Do you think they will get you some flowers or something?

Nothing much to report preggo wise. Everything else hugely kicking off. why does life have to be such a soap opera at times?

Withalittlesparkle Thu 23-May-13 07:59:18

Oh sweetie that doesn't sound very good, anything you need/want to share?

Sweetie sorry to hear that, we're here if you need to talk.

It is a big step Sparks smile he will be here before you know it!

SweetieTime Thu 23-May-13 09:16:36

it is bloody DH family, they are all like one big soap opera and I am not exaggerating. Earlier this week FIL who is an arse was arrested, his wife threw him out and other family members also washed their hands of him and rightly so. So he turns up at our house at 12.30am with no where else to go. DH allowed him to stay that night and then moved him to a hotel, but his bail is still to our address even through I won't have him back in the house either. DH is torn as it is still his Dad but he has done very wrong, what he has done is unforgivable. I am sure things will sort themselves out but it is such a nightmare at the moment. You really can not choose your family and I feel so sorry for DH.

Oh gosh Sweetie that sounds awful, but yanbu the way you are handling it, it sounds like the best idea to keep it away from your door step, especially now! Your poor DH though sad

Sparks feet up time, how did your last day go? Did the cake get eaten or is there some left <hopeful emoticon grin>

Withalittlesparkle Thu 23-May-13 18:00:33

Oh sweetie what an awful position to be in! I think you're handling things very well considering!

Feet are well and truly up while MrS sorts the nursery! There was cake but I left it for work to finish off!! It's a weird feeling cus at the moment it just feels like a Friday evening

SweetieTime Thu 23-May-13 20:14:13

Sparks hhmmm cake!!! Glad you have your feet up. Was your last day ok?

Withalittlesparkle Thu 23-May-13 20:49:36

It was good sweetie hardly did any work though!!

Nursery furniture Taking a break, poor mrS is knackerrd

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 00:35:18

Has anyone heard from keep lately?

No, is she still on holiday? I think it is her scan this weekend. If you're lurking Keep brooking for your scan and hope you're having a good holiday.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 08:28:29

Ah maybe she is still on holiday!! I just don't remember hearing from her since she said she'd had a little bleed!

I'm still in bed!! On a Friday!!! Amazing!!!! Although baby has been rather quite last night and this morning but then yesterday was the first day I'd not had to guzzle caffeinated coke to keep me awake at work so I was wondering whether that had anything to do with it?

I have heard that to encourage a baby to move you should have something sweet and cold so that could be right. Loving that you're relaxing already smile

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 09:31:04

Oh he has moved just not as much as he normally does! I'm not overly concern will just keep an eye on the movements and see what happens

I'm so relaxed already I'm contemplating a day without make up shock this is shocking for me on a week day!! But we do really need to crack on with the nursery!

Only one more school day till half term smile

keepitgoing Fri 24-May-13 15:31:22

Hi all, sparks am so pleased you're on mat leave now! Thanks for thinking of me - I've been in the jungle... No more brown cm since that one time, so fingers crossed that all is well. My scan's tomorrow - eek.

Sweetie I never really felt too bad, just queasy. I have a bit more energy the last couple of weeks. Sorry you're having a tough time in other areas.

Boo - glad all is loved up with you.

Brooking for tomorrow please, am quite nervous. But agree with sweetie, one step at a time.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 15:58:39

Yay keep!!! I totally forgot you'd told us you'd be AWOL, how was the jungle? Your scan will be amazing tomorrow

Brooking for your scan tomorrow Keep I'm sure it will be fine though and kip will be waving back at you. What time your/our time is it?

SweetieTime Fri 24-May-13 20:08:35

keep lovely to see you. Good luck for your scan tomorrow. Will you be done by the time we get up?

sparks did you have a nice first day of mat leave?

anyone else having problems with the mn site? I can only post from my phone at moment.

I'm having problems with the mobile site - when it's not off line sad

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 21:32:17

Nope no problems here but then I'm on the mobile site so that doesn't count!

Doesn't really feel like any special sort of leave at the moment! Just feels like we're on a long weekend!!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 21:43:20

Oh and for the record Twinks has been quite allllllll day, I decide to head to bed early and BOOM he puts on a show!! Now he appears to be trying to burrow out via my bladder

Bwhaha that twinks is brilliant grin

Withalittlesparkle Fri 24-May-13 22:00:11

Is this pay back boo for that time I said toddlyboo was a legend?!

<innocent face> grin

morning, just checking in for news from keep, do we know what time the scan is?

Keep brooking it has all gone well.

keepitgoing Sat 25-May-13 15:05:32

All good!!! Still need blood results for DS but all physical signs good. Was amazing. Will write more tomorrow as parents are off

Can I start to believe it and relax now??

smile smile

Yes, relax and breathe. So pleased for you Keep smilesmilesmile

SweetieTime Sat 25-May-13 15:23:51

Keep that is great news thanksthanks I have been lurking all day waiting for news. Can not wait to hear the full story tomorrow. I am so pleased all is looking ok.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 25-May-13 18:52:29

Oh keep that's wonderful news smile so pleased for you!!

You can absolutely start to relax now BUT you probably won't, or at least I didn't!! I had a couple of days of post scan euphoria, telling everyone etc but then my brain flicked on to focusing on getting to the 20 week scan!! Now it's focused on getting to 37!!

keepitgoing Sun 26-May-13 03:11:45

OK, so a bit more detail - sorry for the rush yesterday, but I just wanted you all to know all was OK and not worry.

I was super nervous, and so relieved to hear the 'very strong' heartbeat by Doppler soon after we arrived. Dh made them do some extra blood tests and made sure all was done - v glad he was there. We then had to wait ages for the scan as the doc had an emergency. I had to send dh out for chocolate biscuits... Anyway, we were in there for 30 mins, as Kip wouldn't get in the right position to see the nasal bone. I had to jiggle around lots to try and move him/her around. Kip is v active, twisting, turning, waving. It was just brilliant. Then they did some 4D stuff at the end and gave us some lovely pictures. smile

The blood tests for Downs will take 1 or 2 weeks, but she said all physical markers are fine, and predicts all will be fine. So I think we'll tell good friends now...

I am really going to try and enjoy now, and not stress about the next step. I think I've been trying not to think of it as being a real baby yet, just a pregnancy if that makes sense. I had a moment of surrealness during the scan - I've imagined so many times. So many steps to get to here over these last few months...

Ooh, and Kip was measuring 13+6, at 13+1, so we may have us a tall baby...

Thank you all so so much for you support over the last too-long xxx

keepitgoing Sun 26-May-13 03:18:11

Ooh, I have an anterior placenta, so guess I won't feel anything for a good while. Any other brookers?

Oh Keep that sounds amazing smile I am really pleased it went so well. I loved the telling everyone part, enjoy it!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 26-May-13 07:42:47

Keep that's amazing, so happy for you!! Geek and I decided the other day that she's getting diffed this cycle and then when you move locally we're going to have the most epic mummy lunch dates!!

As for anterior placenta I have no experience BUT I do know people who have had that, you may not feel proper kicks as early as with a posterior placenta but they'll be there! And as baby grows chances are your placenta will move smile

keepitgoing Sun 26-May-13 10:07:09

Ooh I didn't think it could move! Let's hope...

Sweetie how are the twins?

Face, are you doing ok? Have you told your mum? I know you're on the steroids, is it just a waiting game now?

Sparks, not long till 37 weeks. How are you feeling about it all? Will your mum come and stay after the birth?

Boo, lovely, hope all is still wonderful with your brood. Guess dh is back at work now?

Withalittlesparkle Sun 26-May-13 10:53:14

Keep I'm really lucky that most of my family (or at least those that will be my primary support network) live relatively close so no need for anyone to stay over as such! My mum is about 20 mins away, and my sister is the same in the opposite direction! Then mrS has family that live 10 mins away smile

SweetieTime Sun 26-May-13 13:07:43

We had a lovely evening at 80s tribute last night. It was a real throw back to our youth with Rik Astley, Belinda Carlisle, Fine Young Canibals and Go West. It was a really good evening but it did get a bit chilly later on. I was very proud of myself as I didn't really miss having a drink.

Keep twins I am still in denial are ok I think. I am counting down to 12 week scan when it might seem a bit more real. I know I am very lucky to be so symptomless but it is a bit of a worry, you worry if you do and you worry if you don't. I wish I could have a window in my tummy so I could see what is going on. I also got a pregnancy booklet from TAMBA which has put the fear of God into me shows how big a twins pregnancy tummy gets.

We are having a barbecue in the garden this afternoon which I am really looking forward to. DH says he is going to cook everything in the house before just finishing off on barbe.

Anyone else making the most of the glorious Bank Holiday weather?

keep wonderful news on your scan. have u announced to the world yet?
we've told both sets of parents and my bf I'll always tell them straight away for the support. after ny intial panic that this was just destined for failer and that I'd ruin our holiday by miscarrying whilst we are away I've calmed down a lot. no where near as nervous as last time. it seems a fair few ladies started their meds from bfp rather than ovulation and have been fine so I've stopped worrying about that, I'm doing all I can. touchwood no spotting or cramps so far. I've usually had some by now. the only time I hadn't was with my blighted ovum so me being the crazy person I am thinks its that again because I havent bleed. I'm sure there's been a faint Yukky sick feeling kicking in the past few days thoughsmile. not much longer to wait my scan is on Wed.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 26-May-13 13:14:45

No ray catching for me I'm afraid!! Instead I've decided to sit in the nursery and cry because the curtains I've just put up are a smidgen too small and I think it make them look a bit naff! Flipping preggo hormones makes everything look/feel rubbish!!!!

SweetieTime Sun 26-May-13 13:27:39

Don't cry Sparks I am sure it is only you that will notice and twinks won't care at all. I bet it looks lovely in the nursery. Are you pleased with it on the whole?

Try to get out and enjoy the sunshine, it will cheer you up - FACT!!!

Trix that is your new name I have decided, we can not keep calling you face time has to move on. I really feel for you counting down those days until Wed. I think it is wise to tell those closest to you as you need their support at this time. I have always told close family what we are going through so they can be there for us. Faint yukky sicky feeling is defo a good sign, even though we could do without it.

Gawd, I can't keep up on mn, not enough time! But always lovely to hear of good scans keep, sounds fab.

Are any of you on <whispers> fb? Should go n check the names doc I suppose, but I find that easier. Shameful confession for mn I'm sure smile . I was vast BTW sweetie, but i carried big with dd, 96th centile bump and she was 7lb 5.5 a bit overdue....

SweetieTime Sun 26-May-13 19:56:17

<whispers> I can be found on the brooking fb group. have been loving the cute off. <resumes normal conversational voice>

Dream what about your DT? How many weeks were you when they arrived? What weight were they? <nosy emoticon>
I know what will be will be but am just curious for any info I can get.

Well I think last night has caught up with me as I am feeling shattered this evening. So glad of the extra day off tomorrow.

Sparks a month ago I would have cried too and I'm sure they look fine.

Sweetie take it easy tonight and tomorrow, the gig looked really good though! I'm so excited about next weekend smilesmile

Dream I'm also on FB smile don't think I'm hard to spot with the latest brooking newbie smile

K has been a bit hard work today, I think she has my teen boo's cold, really blocked nose and has decided she needs to feed every hour to feel better, also must be with mummy at all times, hopefully she will feel better tomorrow.

SweetieTime Sun 26-May-13 21:03:38

boo sorry to hear k is under the weather. hope she is a bit better tomorrow. excited about next Saturday too.

keepitgoing Mon 27-May-13 02:59:18

What's happening next weekend?!

sparks that's so great you have family near by though is ten mins perhaps a bit TOO close... Both sets of parents'll be 3 hours+. But hey, that's better than now.

sweetie I think my tiredness got a bit better from about 10 weeks, though yesterday I was exhausted after my parents went, and did nothing. Have you any tummy yet? I have a slight high up rounding, but that's it, not noticeable with clothes on.

trix not long till Wednesday now! Will that be 7 weeks? You are doing so well at being calm x

We told our families after the 7 weeks scan. I am now thinking we might wait for the blood results before telling friends. Not sure why - we are obviously far away, I am nervous, I don't know.

sweetie I was very happy to get to term, 37+6. Dt1 6lb9, Dt2 5lb 10 . He stopped growing at the end, they'd been the same size the whole way through though a placental doppler said all was ok hmm he's way bigger now than his brother but his brother is a vomiter :/ . Planned cs. My consultant said outcomes are far better at 38 weeks than 37 so I struggled on but found it very hard compared to my first pregnancy. Could put a bump pic on fb if you have any interest?!

Couldn't miss your beautiful baby boo grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 27-May-13 09:50:21

Dream I'm on Facebook too, my kittie was the first fur baby to enter the cute off smile

Yes what's happening on Saturday? Did I miss something?

Feeling better today about the nursery, curtains be damned the rest of it is pretty damn cute!! When it's properly finished ill Facebook a picture!

Not sure what else I was going to say I'm
Still half asleep

Happy bank holiday ladies smile tis sunny here, hope you're as lucky.

Dream K is pretty darned cute ain't she smilesmile

Keep DH has been back at work for 2 weeks, it's going quite well, I was really worried about doing the school mornings but it is going quite well really.

Sparks looking forward to seeing your nursery pic. Your fur baby was beyond cute with its little paws and fluffyness smile

Next Saturday is the first brooking meet up for me and Sweetie, I can't wait! We should do an eastmeets west (Midlands) meet up too!

K seems better this morning, only fed twice (so far) and napping well.

keepitgoing Mon 27-May-13 10:19:03

Sweetie/dream - this may be a silly question but do they/how do they keep track of which twin is which through pregnancy. Do they not move around too much and confuse things?

Ah, wish I could join you guys, and meet gorgeous K! Ooh sparks you'll have twinks by the time I move home and I'll get cuddles smile

SweetieTime Mon 27-May-13 11:03:32

keep my nurse said T1 was nearest exit and T2 was the other one hmm she also said at C section they may come out the other way around at the one nearest exit is bottom so usually brought out second. I am sure they know what they are on about. Maybe the position of the placenta is less likely to move so they use that as reference point. Dream will know I am sure.

Yes me and boo are having a meet up on Saturday. I am very excited to be meeting another real life brooker. We could do a midlands one when keep is back too.

boo glad lovely little k is a bit more settled today. Must be a worry for you when you know they just aren't right.

Sparks I am looking forward to nursery pictures too.

Dream I am a bit scared of twin bump pictures after the one in the Tamba booklet. Your DT were a great weight and well done for getting so far on. I will wait to see what my consultant says when we get that far.

I don't have a tummy, I keep asking DH if he thinks I have but no. I really hope all is ok as I am getting nervous that more should be happening. I think I am going to cave before 12weeks and pay for a private scan but I am holding out as long as possible. I haven't had any bleeding or anything so nothing to say anything is going wrong just all in my stupid head.

Of course you're worried Sweetie we have all had a complete breakdown before the 12 week scan and again before the 20 week too blush I can't blame you for wanting private scan before though, I would have if I had thought of it.

keepitgoing Mon 27-May-13 12:35:32

Yes, I think they're not all that expensive compared to ivf!! but see my post to gin on the other thread - odds are v good. Do a scan if you want, don't fret about that but the not-worrying won't last long. No reason for you to have a belly yet. Nearly 9 weeks! When are you stopping the progesterone? I stopped at 9 weeks exactly but I think most go on to twelve. X

keep don't be nervous about telling people I'm sure you'll be fine now. your virtually 14weeks now! besides don't they phone you pretty damn quick if you get a bad result? they did me, I knew like the next day. anyway what they could see looked great and measured big so I think you can relax your baby is coming! I think we will hide it for as long as possible this time. ill be 6+4 for ny scan I think, which I hope is ok. I was 6+6 last time so I hope those couple of days don't make a huge difference. I told the clinic my dates and that's when they wanted to see me so I guess they know what they're doing.
sweetie I would be so tempted by a private scan! I think they're a couple of hundred quid though! how are the symptoms coming along? will you show quicker with twins?
sparks glad you feel better about the curtains today I'm sure it all looks gorgeous. can you instragram a pic so I can have a nosey once its finished grin .
boo pleased k is feeling better today.
hope everyones enjoying the bank holiday!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 27-May-13 13:44:28

Oh phone so excuse if I miss something!

Sweetie I caved and had a scan at 10 weeks, early 'viability' scans are cheaper than 4D scans, I paid £99 for my early scan and then £200 for my 4D scan! That reassurance for those extra couple of weeks was just what I need to stop me going completely bonkers!!!

Boo/sweetie jealous of the brooking meet up but yes I totally agree we should totally do an east meets west brookers meet up!!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 27-May-13 13:51:32

Face 2 days won't make much of a difference on a scan, at this stage they're just looking a heartbeat really rather than anything else!

As for bumps, I don't think I was properly showing until 15/16 weeks, and half of that was Christmas weight!!! I felt a lot bigger than I actually was, at 12 weeks I was just starting to get a little uncomfortable but still in non maternity clothes so don't start stressing about bumps! Don't forget at this stage babies, even two of them are so very tiny

Withalittlesparkle Mon 27-May-13 13:56:22

Oh and boo glad k is feeling a bit better

SweetieTime Mon 27-May-13 16:56:28

Trix I think it is just a heartbeat check after 6 weeks. I think they can see it from anytime after 6 weeks.

There is a place near me that does viability scans for £80 so I have that if the stress gets too bad. I will take it a day at a time as I think you can get appointments really quickly if I need to.

Keep I am still on all my original dose meds until week 10. So that is 4 x 200mg progesterone pessaries a day for another week. Then I start to ween off the meds so I will be meds free by the end of week 12.

the heartbeat us what I'm worried about. I think 6+4 could be hit and miss as to whether they can detect it. plus 6+4 is just a good guess at how far along I am. based on an average 28 days cycle and how early I could poss get a bfp. but the one cycle I had in between was 33days so..... but the whole thing really messes with your cycle so there's just as much chance that I had a really short on and could be a day or 2 ahead. I just really don't want to be stuck in a waiting game because they couldn't find a heartbeat yet.

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 03:54:10

Trix, I think you are highly likely to see a heartbeat, BUT if you don't it's not necessarily something bad, and they'd prob give you a scan a week later. Remind me the date you got your bfp? Let's call that 8dpo at the Very Earliest. sparks 2 days can make a difference at the point. Lots of ivf clinics scan at 6+1, so they must assume they'll see a HB then.

sweetie I didn't realise you were on 4 fanny candles a day... Will be a relief to get rid, hey!

SweetieTime Tue 28-May-13 08:14:10

keep i will not be sad to leave them behind. They are so messy. I just hope they aren't hiding the trutg and when I stop then I start bleeding or something. I don't dare Google that sort of thing for fear of scaring myself further.

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 08:47:57

Nope, when I stopped cold turkey I freaked out on the doctor but he didn't even do blood tests. Once the placenta's there, there's no need.

Yep, they are gross, and make you feel gross. But hey, if they helped then I love them!

keep ny bfp was 8th may. do your maths grin. x

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 10:21:08

That makes you minimum 6+1 tomorrow, if you'd got bfp at 8dpo. This is unlikely, so i'd think you will be more like 6+4, minimum, so bfp at 11dpo. I think it'll be fine... What time is the scan?

4.50pm! we are seeing the NHS consultant in the morning, it was to get our test results, obviously I already have them now as I got them to give me them over the phone as soon as I got bfp. but we are still going along to discuss things further. I'm thinking of trying to talk them into scanning me, worth a shot and will save us waiting all day and having like a 3hr round trip plus my private clinic is always at least 20mins behind!
the nervous are kicking in a bit now! I'm trying to focus on the positive things like strong preggo lines and no blood. theres no reason why it shouldn't all be fine. plus my bfp was with evening wee grin so would have been diluted which surely means I'm less likely to have had a v.early bfp right?

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 10:35:59

I think so! You may have been 14dpo. I hope you get a morning scan as otherwise I'll be in bed by the time you can tell us
No reason it won't be fine! We are Brooking No Argument.

oh no I forgot you would be sleeping by then! rubbish time of day for a scan I think! fingers crossed I can sweet talk the morning consultant.
4 bum fanny candles a day sweetie good grief! they are yuk aren't they.

SweetieTime Tue 28-May-13 10:50:38

Trix it is so bloody hard waiting all day for the scan. I hope they look in the morning for you. like keep says you are more likely to be further on than you think. especially if you got a strong line with afternoon pee.

I think they don't take any chances with old birds like me at our clinic. Dh says if we were on so many meds on our own ivf cycle would we have stood more chance of getting a bfp. but we will never know.

I am full of cold today and had a really annoying cough in the night. as a preggo what can I take?

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 11:10:23

Only take things if you really need, is the rule. Paracetamol is OK. I'd try lemon and honey first.

Are you used to saying 'as a preggo' yet? grin

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 11:11:38

And no point looking to past cycles. Dib and Dab are where it's at! smile

sweetie I think its best to be on all medication possible! worth it in end isn't it.
as for cold remedies sorry I've no idea, whats your midwife like can you send her a text or something to ask?
thanks keep and sweetie for reassuring me. obviously I'm using the first day of full flow (that's right isn't it?) as my lmp but actually I spotted a bit the day or 2 before that which I never get. so I guess that could affect my dates a little too.

keepitgoing Tue 28-May-13 11:13:49

I always feel queasy in the evenings. What's that about, huh? One, it shouldn't be called Morning sickness. Two, I'm 13+4 - I shouldn't be feeling queasy at all! This is meant to be the 'glowing' stage.
<looks at spots, rash, unglowing skin>

Withalittlesparkle Tue 28-May-13 11:22:13

Sweetie just stick to paracetamol and rest, I'm afraid it's all you'd be allowed to take if you asked your midwife or dr unless its really really bad!

Keep I absolutely agree it shouldn't be called morning sickness, it should be something like all day, sent from the depths of hell sickness!!! I'm afraid I have no positive stories about MS and the glowing stage as I went straight from projectile vomiting to tired and haggard completely skipping the glowing energy boosting stage!

I've just blitzed the down stairs house work and now I've moved upstairs! Sil is coming round in a bit to bring some baby things and have a look Arthur nursery so I really should make everything up here look half decent!!

SweetieTime Tue 28-May-13 11:36:13

Keep I am still in denial apart from on here with you guys.

Any queasiness, more watery mouth, I have had is usually late morning or in the evenings. It seems worse if I am tired or hungry. I have learnt to eat my normal meal then a snack crisps between meals. I am really lucky as it hasn't been head down to loo situation at all. And I have never woken up with it even though overnight is the longest I go without food. Bizarre but I am not complaining.

I will stick to lemon and honey for now, having cold is rubbish as it make you feel so crap but everyone gets it so no sympathy. Does anyone know if I can put vick on to help my breathing?

just realised the massive x-post there!
my sickness is always evening too. morning sickness is a lie!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 28-May-13 19:25:34

I'm not sure about Vicks, I know used olbas oil but then found out you shouldn't use that! I did live on menthol throat sweets at one point though!!

Everyone gets colds but they are 10 times worse when you're pregnant cus your body is too busy creating life to fight illness!!!

I'm having a rather indulgent double nap sort of day! smile

I have an appt about my SPD tomorrow, I wasn't going to go because things have eased off a bit after 5 days away from work but mrS thinks I should in case it gets worse again as baby descends in to my pelvis!!!

SweetieTime Tue 28-May-13 19:38:49

sparks nothing wrong with a double nap day, in fact I am quiteenvy I would go to your appointment as it might get worse but if not bonus

Withalittlesparkle Tue 28-May-13 23:34:33

Sweetie double napping was lovely, however now it's time for real sleep I simply can't do it!!

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 29-May-13 05:09:35

Just popping in to say goodluck with the scan today cartoon

SweetieTime Wed 29-May-13 08:11:34

Trix good luck for today. I know it will be a difficult day but hope all is well and you get to see the heartbeat. Brooking for you

Good luck Tricks brooking for you.

keepitgoing Wed 29-May-13 09:00:58

I've been brooking all day already...

Exhausted after teaching, so having a lie down in the air con. Maybe a nap?

well no joy getting a scan this morning at the hospital. I did think they would say no anyway. she said that it could just cause me more stress as its so early and they can't be sure. she has a point but it won't stop me having my private scan later. she also thinks that the medication I'm on is pointless and that there's not enough evidence to back the theory up. shes mire if a believer in positive thinking and can't see why it wouldn't work for us.

keepitgoing Wed 29-May-13 12:47:55

I know its controversial, trix, but it seems to work for you. It doesn't harm. Keep the faith and stick with the plan.

SweetieTime Wed 29-May-13 13:44:40

Trix you have to go with what works for you. all medical science is about trial and error. hope the private scan goes well later.

well exactly. if I feel like it helps and keeps me a bit more able to think positively, which it does as I feel like I'm actually doing something, it can't be a bad thing.
times dragging! I've had a short nap but was hoping I wouldn't wake up till 3pm when we need to leave.

Nearly 3 now Trix brooking it goes well for you.

Hiya Keep, Sweetie and Sparks hope you're all ok.

Sparks how did your appointment go? Hopefully it was useful. Maybe try not to nest so hard?? wink says the woman who was building a new wardrobe at 36 weeks cos nothing elite would fit in the old one and it looked really messy blush

we have a heartbeat people! 6+4 exactly right.

Woo hoo!! Brilliant news Trix smile

SweetieTime Wed 29-May-13 17:48:27

Trix that is brilliant news, I am so pleased for you. Is it just the one heartbeat?

Our appointment has come through for our NHS scan and NT screening. It isn't until 24th June, so I will be 13 weeks. There is no way I can wait that long so I have decided to go for private scan/screening. This can be done week after next when I will be 11 weeks so not that long to wait. I will still have the NHS scan too as reassurance.

thanks boo
haha yes sweetie u just have one on board!
gosh that is a long time to wait I'm not surprised your going for a private one. where/when will you have it?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 29-May-13 18:22:56

Great news face, hope it helps you to relax a little bit!!

Sweetie if booking a private one for reassurance will help then its well worth it! One of my friends was a very nervous pregnant woman that she had several private scans purely on the basis of reassurance, the difference in her after a scan was amazing!!

I'm afraid my physio appt was a complete and utter waste of time, it was a group session, she spent most of the time talking about how to cope at work and when I told her I had finished work and was 37 weeks she just laughed, shrugged her shoulders and carried on, turns out theses sessions are mostly for woman between 20 and 30 weeks!!! Then she went on about breast feeding and varicose veins which I couldn't see the reason behind it was a session about SPD!!!!

TheLittleFriend Wed 29-May-13 19:18:51

Great news trix smile

Well that's pants Sparks we will just have to brook that it doesn't get any worse when twinkle gets lower. I don't get why they were discussing bfing, it seems a bit pushy!!

keepitgoing Thu 30-May-13 03:27:23

grin trix!!! Fantastic news.

sweetie I'm pretty sure they need you at 11+4 for the nuchal scan. You could get an earlier one just to check things are progressing well and check on numbers then use the NHS one for NT.

Ah well, you could sneeze any day now sparks. Does SPD resolve right after birth?

SweetieTime Thu 30-May-13 08:26:39

keep I think that is what I am going to do

well I think the hormones have caught me up. I felt so sick most of yesterday. I had to dash to grotty work toilet but fortunately wasn't actually sick. feel shattered too even though slept well and had an early night.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 30-May-13 09:04:10

Sweetie might be time to deploy some ms remedies just in case, try sucking on a mint or something it helped me! And keep your fluids up while you can

Keep SPD is something that should resolve immediately after labour and providing I keep doing what I'm doing it shouldn't get any worse!!

Spent this morning contemplating what labour actually feels like and how ill know its started!! Largely because I feel gross this morning, like I have a stomach bug

Sweetie I'm sorry to hear you're feeling poorly, but also pleased for you to wink

Sparks we love a labour symptom spot, what is happening today?

Withalittlesparkle Thu 30-May-13 09:26:22

Boo I doubt it's labour, but apparently ttc has left me unable to ignore any symptoms for anything!! I'm just feeling really crampy this morning, it's not constant but like ive got a bit of a dicky tummy (tmi when I go to the loo I haven't) I also feel a bit lightheaded/weak so spent all morning lying on the sofa!!

Sofa is good! I wonder if it is twinkle on the move and everything getting ready? Take it easy and keep us posted on the symptoms. Make sure you manage to eat and drink!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 30-May-13 11:15:28

Midwife just been as part of planned appointment, have to go in to day assessment unit tomorrow morning, increased blood pressure, sugar in urine, static baby growth and possible breech position! Oh the joys!!! So I get to sit around all day and worry now hmm

Oh love, that's pants, but if there was any major concern you would be in today! How did she measure the baby growth, Is it your bump that hasn't grown?

I know it's hard but try not to worry, do spend the day sitting though!!!!

SweetieTime Thu 30-May-13 12:27:46

Sparks that is rubbish but keep is right they would have you in today if huge concerned. Try to take it easy today. Sofa is best place to be. anything good on tv?
is MrS with you?

Another sicky dash to the grotty work toilet again this morning sad I have always said I have weak hormones. Obviously they just take longer to kick in than normal people. Am off to work from home go home for a nap soon wink

Withalittlesparkle Thu 30-May-13 13:20:07

Nope it's all rubbish on telly, but that's ok cus I might just nap! I have however just finished the icecream off so I might need to wait for the sugar rush to pass lol!! I'll just wait and see what they say tomorrow!!

Sweetie a nap is a must!! It's horrid when the sickness actually kicks in, it really knocks it out of you! Take it easy

How many weeks are you now Sweetie, lots of napping and eat/drink what ever keeps you going. Sucking on a mint really helps too.

Sparks at least you have control of the tv, I'm in Tom and Jerry hell at the moment sad hope you enjoyed the ice cream smile

sweetie hope you get a nap in soon. I'm gradually feeling worse and worse too! really headachey and just exhausted as well as a pretty constant sickly feeling. even the thought of a glass if water makes me want to vom. went slowly with the tin of soup for lunch felt slightly better whilst eating, but that didn't last long!

SweetieTime Thu 30-May-13 18:10:09

Sparks I hadn't realised napping was a rule, but now I know I will make sure I indulge regularly. I am a bit of a dormouse at the best of times.

I know it is slightly more reassuring to be having symptoms even though they are a bit bleugh. I am 9+2 today so suppose it is a bit late for getting sickness but hopefully it won't be for too long. I tried sucking on a mint earlier and it didn't make much difference as I had to run to the loo to retch.

Trix good to hear you are getting symptoms too. Too much liquid also makes me feel queasy even though I am thirsty. I think dry toast or bread seems the most appealing. It is all worth it in the end.

I have booked for a private NT scan but it isn't for a few more weeks as they would prefer I am nearer to 12 weeks. They are going to send me a blood test to have done at my GP and send back to them so I can have the full results on the day. I feel much better knowing I have got it booked, although I wish it was a little bit sooner.

I know its hard sweetie but at least its booked. there's a window for when they can do the nuchal not sure if its any different for twins. have you thought about the harmony test its a bit more in depth. its something I'm thinking about.

SweetieTime Thu 30-May-13 18:42:34

I am going to see how we get on with this test before I think of any other tests. The harmony test can be done at any stage but takes a couple of weeks to get results. I can understand you wanting to go down this route though.

yes that's right. I think I would have the NHS nuchal done and then go on to have the harmony if necessary, especially since they don't need that particular 'window' to do the harmony. I was under the impression that you got the harmony results really quickly though.

SweetieTime Thu 30-May-13 20:30:20

maybe waiting time for results vary depending where you have it done. Where would you go for it?

What is the Harmony test? How is it done? I've never heard of that one.

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 02:58:42

Sweetie you can't do the harmony test with twins. Sorry! Glad you've got a test booked. Also dildals said the normal blood test is a bit less accurate too as you have extra hormones. Btw I think 9 weeks was my worst for sickness.

Trix I think it was FMC in London has a special offer on harmony £180 if you do blood test at ten weeks, NT scan at 12. Otherwise its like 600 I think. I'm not sure where you live.

Hope all goes well today sparks!

I'm 14 weeks today! Still awaiting phone call re bloods. They said 1-2 weeks and its 6 days. Impatient.

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 02:59:23

As in the 180 includes the NT.

I've dug out ny leaflet now instead of trying to remember all the infoconfused .
doesn't mention twinshmm . actually it doesn't say much about anything. just a general price list.... not helpful.
yes keep that was the offer I got told by the midwife but I phoned them as I was thinking of having it done for pebble but I didn't qualify can't remember why, to far along it must have been.
I think for me I would have it at fmc not sure where else they do it.

how do you make it clicky on your phone?!
anyway from what I remember that 'deal' was for research purposes and stopped running now.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 08:27:16

Thanks Keep, will update as soon as I can!

Sweetie I think you're making the right decision waiting until after the NT results to make any decisions! I think you need to just take one step at a time, think too far a head and you risk become really overwhelmed and more stressed!

Face I'd try and just concentrate on growing baby, keep positive

SweetieTime Fri 31-May-13 09:24:12

Sparks how you feeling today? Any more signs of twinks arrival?

Trix you should just take it a step at a time too, it is so difficult

keep 14 weeks!!! where has the time gone. If the measurements were ok i think the blood only back this up. Are you are young spring chicken?

I seem to have developed a little tummy now, sort of rounded from under my bust. It is only noticable to me and in clothes I don't look any different. I also got weighed this morning and haven't gained any weight at all which is a bit strange. Must be all the healthy eating and no booze.

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 09:25:16

Ooh and I think you're officially at term today sparks. Congratulations! And come on twinkle!

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 09:36:14

I'm 'only' 30, sweetie. But have of course read 'my nt was fine but bloods put me as high risk' stories. Naughty me.

Isn't it weird, I've gained no weight either yet have a small tum. And why so high up?!

keep sweeties right. I wouldn't worry too much about the bloods. everything on the scan was fine. I'm not sure about over there but here they literally get back to you within days if its a high result.
sweetie how have you managed not to gain weight! mind due I don't seem to have yet but I have still been doing a few gym sessions. I think they'll be pretty much stopping now though as I feel too rough. yay for the beginnings if a bump! how many weeks are you.
sparks so excited! any stirrings?

ive often wondered the average age of a brooker you know. I get the feeling its quite a wide range.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 09:47:27

Keep if your measurements were fine your bloods will be fine too, your a Brooker fact!! I did the same though, first thing I did when I got home was check my measurements on google!!

No more signs of Twinks arriving, I'm still crampy though so may have a tummy bug!!

I am indeed 37 weeks today so full term gringrin Twinks may come whenever he wants to now!

sparks do you have a name picked out?

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 09:57:16

I plucked up courage and rang. Low risk!! grin

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 09:57:51

Yep we have a name, we've had a name since before we conceived smile but its sort of a semi secret! Only family and close friends know at the moment! And it will be that name because my Nan knew it and one of the last things she said to me before she passed away was "how's is *" she was already losing her marbles a little so when she came out with that so clear me knew it was 100% his name!!!

keepitgoing Fri 31-May-13 10:02:54

Close friends know? Did I miss it? wink
That is lovely about your nan.

yay keep that's great!
ah sparks that's a lovely story. very special.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 10:08:00

Oh keep that's fabulous news grin. Now you need to try and stop worrying and start getting excited that Kip is on its way smile

Ah yes I really should've sent the name memo to all the brookers but I've become sort of precious about the name, so I didn't want to over share! The only reason why family know is because it was announced at Nans funeral! Don't worry you ladies will be the first to know what it is when he arrives!! But you'll need to be on Facebook as I won't say it on here so off you pop to create accounts (keep and face)

SweetieTime Fri 31-May-13 10:09:13

keep very brave of you!! Great news that kip is low risk.

Sparks it is really nice that your Nan knew too. I can not wait for you to share with your close friends on here too

Trix I will be 40 when I am 36 weeks, my twins could come on my birthday how amazing would that be? I think there is a pretty wide age range of the Brookers which makes a nice mix of different experiences. How old are you? You are a real youngster if I remember correctly.

Well done Keep that is brilliant news.

Sparks I was really precious about names too, hardly told anyone before the event! I love that your Nan knew him though! Can't wait to 'meet' him! I will be glued to FB more than usual grin

Trix I am 35 not for much longer though wink

ok I may have to reactivate my fb for the day when you make the announcement!
sweetie that would be amaze! yes I'm 27. 28 in august thoughgrin . I love the fact that were such a mix it definitely helps with advice and experience. am I the youngest brooker?! sparks your 28 aren't you?

SweetieTime Fri 31-May-13 10:32:21

I think Cup is quite young too she looks young on fb

Trix I'm 31

ah I think you maybe right! I'm going to investigate. because I'm nosey

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 10:43:03

Yep I'm a whipper snapper as well! Maybe is the same age too!

Right off to the hospital, update you all later

rubber nice to see you. how are you?

Ok thanks. I've got a scan this afternoon to check that everything has gone. Fingers crossed that all is ok.

fingers crossed, have you stopped bleeding?

Yes, it was just about finished before we went away luckily.

well I hope everything looks ok on your scan. will you try again? hope its ok to ask.

Good luck with your scan Rubber

SweetieTime Fri 31-May-13 13:42:44

Rubber hope all is ok at the scan

Scan was ok. Everything has gone and my lining was 6mm. Ok to try again after my next period. I want to as this is around the time I wanted to try anyway but dh not keen.

that's good news rubber. why us he not keen, do you want to talk about it?

GreenOlives Fri 31-May-13 14:17:41

Hello ladies! What's new over here as I haven't had tinternet whilst on my hols? smile

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 14:39:17

Rubber glad everything going ok, maybe give DH a little time, it's all been a bit of a shock to the old system!!

My scan went well, Twinks is measuring perfectly on 37 weeks smile def head down and partially engaged, so relieved!!

Am now spending the day doing the baby washing! He has so much stuff and I'm a bit baffled as to where it's all meant to go!!!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 14:43:58

Hey olives!! Depends what you've missed

We currently have 4 graduates, but hoping more are on their way!

I'm 37 weeks today
Keep is 14 weeks
Sweetie is 8 weeks (I think) with twins
Cartoon is 6 weeks and a bit

TheLittleFriend Fri 31-May-13 15:36:15

Rubber, I'm really sorry to hear what happened, I must have missed the news before you went away. X

Rubber I am pleased that it went well for you today, I can understand Mr R being hesitant, hopefully he will come round soon.

Enjoy your baby washing Sparks but don't over do it! wink

Hiya olives the holiday looked amazing! Hope your little chap feels better soon. Teen boo had almost the same thing at the same age.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 16:32:17

Boo I can't seem to stop! Although I have now moved on to adult washing because baby washing was stressing me out as I can figure out the best place to store everything!!

SweetieTime Fri 31-May-13 16:32:58

Rubber glad all was ok. just give dh time to come to terms with what has happened

Olives how was holidays? apart from DS1 nasty fall obviously. How did DS2 cope with it all?

no sickness today. Think I was overtired earlier in the week which made me more sick.

<whispers 9+3 time flies>

hi olives hope you had a nice time.
I'm 7wks tomorrow, going much quicker this time!

Oh Sparks nesting is more like ocd isn't it, besides old man pants washing isn't nearly as fun as baby washing!

Sweetie I am pleased you're feeling a bit better, see you tomorrow smilesmile

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 31-May-13 17:22:50

Just popped over to tell Rubber I'm really sorry to hear your news. Hope you and DH are doing ok.

I'm glad I'm came over as I've learnt that Sweetie thinks I look young which has cheered me up no end!

37 weeks Sparks shock

Keep glad to hear little kip is doing well

Munxx Fri 31-May-13 19:53:01

Also popping over to say so very sorry to Rubber there's sadly quite a few of us who understand only too well what you are going through. You and your DH are in my thoughts.

Sparks so excited for you! Any day now?! Both mine came at 38 weeks....

Keep and Trix and sweetie I am still grinning from ear to ear for you.

Rubber, I'm glad your scan was ok and I'm brooking DH feels like TTC soon. My DH was the same after each of my mcs.Didn't want to try again, worried the same thing would happen.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 31-May-13 23:14:06

Munx don't say that I have at least another 2 loads of washing to do yet! And then I need to find homes for everything!!!

Oh and am being rather terrible and not bothering to iron everything! I'm hoping it'll stretch!!!

SweetieTime Sat 01-Jun-13 08:38:40

Sparks lovely day for another day of baby washing. Finding homes for things is a much tougher job.

Munxx lovely to see you lurking, how are things with you?

I am so excited as I am off for newborn snuggles with the most recent Brooking baby this morning. I think boo might be coming along too winkgrin our Meadowhall meet up is finally here - woo hoo!!

gringrin oh go on then, I will come too. Can't wait Sweetie see you later x

Withalittlesparkle Sat 01-Jun-13 08:58:09

Oooooh have heaps of fun sweetie and boo, how very exciting!!

It's a bit windy here to be honest, but still warm so I guess it's perfect drying conditions! I worked it out last night reckon I actually have 3.5 washes to do if I'm to do it all in colour batches!! I think I'm rather lucky to have so much to be honest because with all the stuff I have at least I don't need to worry about doing any washing in the first couple of weeks/months!!! The washing I did yesterday has now been put away though so everything's starting to look a little more organised!!

I still have loads of baby clothes in bags hidden around the house blushgrin

keepitgoing Sat 01-Jun-13 12:16:04

Ooh, v jealous of the meet up. Can't wait to meet some of you.

Thanks munx we are still grinning too... any chance of another for you...?

Right, have told all good friends now, and of course it was great. Crazy keep...

Well done telling people Keep did you enjoy doing it?

I can confirm that brooking meet ups are the best!!! Sweetie is lovely and I had fabulous time smilesmile

SweetieTime Sat 01-Jun-13 18:42:22

Really enjoyed this afternoons Brooking meet up. It is official Brooking babies are the cutest. As I am sure you can all image baby K is ADORABLE. Thanks for a lovely time boo and letting me have newborn snuggles with your gorgeous daughter.

GreenOlives Sat 01-Jun-13 21:41:20

Aaww! Brooking meet up sounds fab, glad you had a nice time ladies smile

And yay for going public keep smile It's lovely being able to share such great news.

GreenOlives Sat 01-Jun-13 21:45:58

Meant to say that lots of clothes is a very good thing sparks as if your DS is anything like mine then the combination of dribble/vomit/poonamis means that the smallest person in the house definitely gets through the most outfits and creates the most washing! wink grin

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 02:56:32

Keep so glad you've started to tell people, it's great isn't it? But slightly nerve wrecking at the same time!

Glad boo and sweetie had such a lovely afternoon

I've had a lovely day, but now am struck with terrible insomnia, just can't get comfy at all, and every time I move mrS tuts which is grating on me slightly!!! He has also really started to complain about being tired and I'm thinking he is going to have such a shock to the system when Twinks arrives!!

Aah, that's why your up! Yeah, Mr S might want to rethink his sleeping expectations in a week or 2! looks at the snoring Mr B at the side of me

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 04:22:37

And now as mentioned he has started snoring and the birds outside are simply chirping too loudly and giving me a headache!! wishing the cats would go eat them all

Mr B has started with a nose whistle wonders if punching him in the face would cure it? half joking obviously! grin wink

Right, K is back in bed! Catch you in a bit.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 13:31:47

Ok so I'm down to three more baby washes, one already on, two more ready to go! Then I have to get back on top of the adult washing but it's all starting to look rather tidy and organised!!!

Woo hoo wonders if sparks will do my washing too? all sounds good Sparks, hope you're taking it easy between loads.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 13:47:46

I'm eating cake grin boo bung your washing over n I'll do it!!! But only when the sun is shining and if you don't expect anything to be ironed!!! I hate ironing!!!

SweetieTime Sun 02-Jun-13 20:25:57

Sparks is all the baby washing done now? I saw on FB that you had a baby shower too, all seems very real now I am sure.

boo I think you and little K wore me out yesterday, I have been like a wet rag all day. I had an early night and sleep in and still felt like a zombie all day.

This might be a bit TMI but I think my bump must be coming along as my knicker elastic feels very tight on my tummy today. Just thought I would share that with you all. As you were grin

Ooh Sweetie SYMPTOMS gringrin !!!!

Sparks just seen your bumps and balls pic, you really can pick Mr S out of a crowd wink

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 22:07:16

Hahaha boo yes he does stand out slightly doesn't he?! Bless him!!

I have half a wash left to do, then I can sit back and wait for Twinks to arrive smilesmile tis all getting rather close now

Sweetie you need to invest in granny pants, not sexy at all but you'll be so very grateful! Or I find the short style ones from asda in a size bigger really comfy!! Remember style is key BUT comfort is much more important, as soon as something starts to feel tight stop wearing it, I found trying to squeeze in to things just made me feel sick!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 22:08:31

Oh and pregnancy is making me soft!!! I actually have to turn the TV off when the advert for the purge comes on!!'

I'm hoping after all that nesting you will get some sleep tonight! I did enjoy our stupid o'clock chat but you need to get some decent rest!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 02-Jun-13 23:00:38

Just getting in to bed now! I purposely avoided napping today to make sure I was super tired

keepitgoing Mon 03-Jun-13 04:12:55

How can you possibly have that much washing?!?! dreads not having a maid when we get home

keepitgoing Mon 03-Jun-13 04:14:58

Ooh I looked at mrK's weekly photos. There's a definite difference between 4 and 14 weeks, so I'm v excited, even though an unknown observer wouldn't see a tummy.

When should I stop sleeping on my tummy? I don't want to stamps foot

Ooh, little bump smilesmile very exciting! I would have thought you will stop yourself when you get too uncomfortable to do it Keep.

Oooo the beginnings of bumps very exciting!grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 03-Jun-13 08:01:23

Keep it's because we had so much baby stuff donated to us, it's literally every item of baby clothing and bedding we could possibly need in the next 3 months vests (short/capped/long sleeve), baby grows, romper suits, tshirts, jeans, bibs, hats, socks, muslins, towels, sheets, blankets... It's all been up in random lofts so it all needs washing! And because we don't have a tumble drier we tend to get a backlog of normal adult clothes until we get some sunshine then I just go washing crazy!!

Agree with boo on the lying on the front thing! At some point it'll feel uncomfortable and you'll become a side sleeper like the rest of us, your bump will simply stop you rolling over on to your front

Sparks did you manage to sleep better last night?

keepitgoing Mon 03-Jun-13 08:34:23

trix how's dh since your scan? Are you allowed to mention being pregnant yet? smile

sparks get all the rest you can, it won't be long now. How are you feeling?

keepitgoing Mon 03-Jun-13 08:35:46

Ooh and that's so amazing about all the free baby stuff. I'll get my sister's things, but if kip is a boy will he object to wearing pink? grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 03-Jun-13 08:45:20

Yes thanks guys had a much better night, struggled to get to sleep but when I did I got about 5 hours straight which is pretty good! MrS woke me this morning to ask if I wanted breakfast but then finished getting ready in the bathroom so i could go back to sleep!

I'm finding I'm doing what I swore I wouldn't and becoming quite preoccupied with labour, every twinge or cramp and I just can't concentrate on anything else! Reckon these last few weeks may drag ever so slightly!!!

Keep kip will wear whatever you him/her in! We got donations from both sides, a lot of the really Girly stuff we discounted but there's some vests and baby grows that def have a pink theme to them but I'm not throwing them away! I'm sure in the middle of the night when Twinks has gone through a gazillion vests I won't care what colour he is in!!

Keep are you going to find out what you're having? Or will Kip remain a UBB?

Boo how are you getting on with night feeds?

We're doing ok thanks Sparks, K has settled into her own routine that has been quite reliable for a couple of weeks, I wish she was that good in the day hmm

keep he's slightly better! I still have to be the positive one while he's a bit more cautious. I guess really he hasn't had enough time to heal after last time, where as I would rather keep ploughing on. I think there are lots of positive things this time. I think though he doesn't really want anyone to know until at least 16wks. his bro and sil may have guess when I didn't drink wine at yesterdays BBQ though. very unlike me! I suppose I forget how delicate men can be. to me although I'm scared its more scarey a thought to give up and not have kids.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 03-Jun-13 21:48:18

Face you just have to take every day as it comes, no need to make those decisions just yet! People can wait

I've had a lovely afternoon with some new mummy friends grin tomorrow will be far more chilled out because I just have to wait for shopping delivery, then I reckon I'll sit out in the garden reading smile I could get used to this lady of leisure malarkey

Ooh your afternoon sounds fab Sparks are they NCT approved mummy friends?? smile

Face I agree with Sparks one day at a time. I know it feels like forever but you can't rush perfection!!

Off to do another milky time smile Sparks I do not expect to be chatting to you before a decent time tomorrow wink hopefully you can get another good night.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 03-Jun-13 22:34:23

Boo you may see me sooner than you think on account of having a late nap, 7-9, I then got up had a bowl of cereal and now back in bed arsing around on my phone!

Ooh got all excited then, the preview on my phone just gave me ...... Boo you may see me sooner than you think on account of having ...... I really wanted the next word to be contractions grin a late nap will have to do wink well just trying to get M'lady off to sleep, the little minx only woke up as soon as I moved sad

Withalittlesparkle Mon 03-Jun-13 22:57:36

I'd kill for a contraction!!!

Little Madame milk machine certainly has good timing smile

keepitgoing Tue 04-Jun-13 02:36:08

OK why did I have a little cry when I found out my lovely friend is pregnant? I think it was fairly instadiff. Dh just says I'm crazy and he's happy we'll be close in dates. Does anyone get it? I think it just reminds how easy it is for most.

Brooking for your labour, sparks

Withalittlesparkle Tue 04-Jun-13 02:47:18

No keep perfectly normal, I was like at the beginning!!

keepitgoing Tue 04-Jun-13 02:56:38

Oh really? And now?

You should be sleeping, young lady!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 04-Jun-13 03:37:17

Now I get annoyed when I hear of instadiffs but then just focus on my own forth coming bundle of joy!!

I've tried to sleep honestly it's just not happenings

Well you had better be asleep now!!

Keep I was like that too, the news of an instadiff is hard to hear even when you're already pg.

keepitgoing Tue 04-Jun-13 06:29:40

OK, glad it's not just me! Have written her a nice email anyway, and it will be fun. But. But. But.

Boo, how much sleep are you getting?

sparks I'm jealous of the relaxing day you've got planned!
I know one step at a timesmile but that's why I think we should see how we feel rather than him saying nope no one else is to know before 16wks. maybe we'll feel confident enough a week or to sooner maybe we still won't. there will never be a massive announcement to the world (neither of us have fbgrin ) but there will be a few friends that will get a text. some of my old friends won't know until they bump into me, probably pushing a pram round the shops. I just wish he wouldnt put a date on things it makes me impatient even though I know theres no rush.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 04-Jun-13 09:18:55

Boo I think I crawled back to bed at about 4.30 now I've only just woken up! Stupid late nap!!

Keep, I went through a phase as well were it would annoy me well people would congratulate me on being pregnant and I wanted to shake them, just a congratulations?!? That is not enough!!! Do you know how long it took? I deserve medal!! Completely irrational obviously!!!

I also got annoyed seeing people who's bumps were bigger than mine (doesnt happen often now though) cus in the early stages I was horrendously jealous of anyone further a long than I was, and now I'm jealous of anyone with a new born!!

It's all to do with crazy baby brain!!

Face putting a time on it may just be his way of coping, he's been through a lot as well so make allowances and review the situation after say 12 weeks

oh god I'm so jealous of anyone who's more pregnant than me. thought it was only me being completly crazy though.
your right sparks I should try and be a bit more understanding of his way of coping. everyone deals with things differently don't they.

keepitgoing Tue 04-Jun-13 10:48:09

Just one milestone at a time face. See how he feels after the 12 week scan. Do you have a date yet?

One friend goes 'ooh that's well timed with your return to the UK'. Grrr we were trying FOREVER.

no not yet. I'm avoiding booking in with the midwife. but I have a NHS scan on the 10th and have been told to arrange a scan with the fetal med consultant while I'm there for around 11wks. but I'm on holiday between 10+5 and 11+5 so I guess ill have it after then. but I'm not sure if that's my official 12wk scan or if its an extra one.
my first milestone I set myself was getting through to 7wks. passed that now smile
haha keep well done you for that perfect timing! what an odd thing to say.

Keep you mean you didn't plan it all along like that?? people are stupid, except brookers!

How far are you now Face? I can understand DH giving himself a time/limit, something to aim for, I couldn't do it personally, he might feel different after the scans though.

Meant to add Sparks, don't late nap again you numpty wink

7+3 boo grin . I know its still very early. but I said to myself just get to 7wks as calmly as possible and hope you don't spot. well I've done that now so I'm aiming for 10wks now. for me I find small chunks best so I don't count everyday how far along I am but 12wks seems to much of a chunk.

That sounds like a really good way of doing it, smaller targets is the way to go, well done!

keepitgoing Tue 04-Jun-13 11:59:31

Ooh I think sweeties 10 weeks today, Congrats! Is that the equivalent of 20 weeks as you have twins? Btw we could end up with ours due at the same time if yours come at 36 and I'm s bit late! Awesome.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 04-Jun-13 13:02:50

Sweetie is never 10 weeks already?!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 08:06:04

Yay I had normal sleep last night!! 11-3 3.30-7 smile

so you know in avoiding booking in, I've had a thought. should I do it so as I have my notes to take on holiday at the end of this month or will I not really need them being so early still?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 08:36:54

Surely you're better off getting booked in sooner rather than later?

keepitgoing Wed 05-Jun-13 08:45:19

Don't you need to be booked in before they send your Nhs scan through? Do it, lovely, there's no harm

well I've got an NHS scan booked on Monday and was told to book an 11wkish one with the consultant while I'm there. so I can't think that the midwife needs to arrange anything. I just find booking in stressful and upsetting now.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 09:07:50

It's not about arranging anything, it's about creating centralised portable notes for everyone to use and discussing your options! You shouldn't find booking in upsetting or stressful, midwives deal with women in your situation frequently, they're trained to support pregnant women in all situations

its poss she may ring me this week anyway. I had an appointment with my gp on Fri, he said he would leave her a message and she call me if she wanted. don't they prefer it to be at like 10wks anyway?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 10:10:34

I was 8 weeks at mine

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 10:36:22

I completely understand your wanting to be cautious but it won't make any difference. tell the mw how you feel about these appointment given your history. I am sure she will be very understanding.

I am 10 weeks and 12 weeks for my scan still feels a long way away. I think it is just the way this journey goes.

Sparks woo hoo for a good nights sleep. Do you feel like a new woman?
Saw your link on fb about the new preggo guidance. How bloody ridiculous. makes my blood boil as it is a real worry. I am just going to carry on as before within reason. imagine the stressing you would go through if you followed every piece of advice BONKERS

I guess I will at least go and collect the forms after Monday's scan.
I just can't shake the fact that I took an instant dislike the very first time I met her, she was a right grumpy old bag. she does seem to have become nicer after every time I've seen her and was perfectly lovely last time.

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 11:38:33

You should try to remember that about her rather than the negative. Is there a choice? Could you see someone different this time?

Well I feel very fat today. I might pop to matalan after work see if I can find any skirts or trousers with elastic waists blush I have worn leggings and tunic for work today which really isnt appropriate but think I can get away with it as it is so hot in my office. But at least I am comfy grin

keepitgoing Wed 05-Jun-13 12:05:07

Have you tried looping a hairband through the button sweetie? Then you can leave button undone. Just wear a long top...

I know, I guess everyone has off days. plus at that time I was weaning of my anti depressants and my moods where awful if I wasnt tearful it was the red mist of rage so it was probably just me being silly.
sweetie is your office quite smart then? hope you find some bits you need to be comfy. luckily its really casual here. leggings all the way for me. I am so bloated its unreal. I've not gained any weight yet my belly is huge! I've never had anything close to a flat stomach but its not usually this bad. sever case of muffin top going on even in leggings a size big for me! doesn't feel uncomfy just looks awful!

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 12:30:43

I discovered that most of my work clothes dont have traditional buttons but those hook and eye clips. I have one elastic waist skirt which I wore yesterday with my only comfy tights. it is not mega smart more business casual but leggings and jeans are a no no.

I haven't gained any weight either but have a bit of a tummy now. I have been eating super healthily apart from the kfc when I met boo and obviously no booze, not that I have fancied a glass of wine bizarrely hmm

SYMPTOMS!!! grin I am going to keep shouting that for you Sweetie! Are you any good with a needle (sewing not jabbing? You could add a bit of extra fabric/elastic in a discreet place on the waistband or if you have a habidasher get a set of hooks like your trousers and put them on some spare fabric and use it as an expander until you're ready for maternity clothes.

Trix I would see the mw too.

Sparks lovely news about the sleep, hope you feel better today! Any more movement?

hmmm sounds like you defo need some new clothes then smile that's good about the wine, I think ill miss my alcohol when I go for a curry on Saturday! I'm eating constantly healthy stuff and not so healthy stuff so I'm not sure how my weight doesn't seem to have changed. I really wanted to continue on at the gym but I feel Yukky after work so its the last thing I feel like doing.

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 12:56:09

Trix could you go swimming? I have been thinking about going if my sports centre has ladies only sessions which I think they do.

boo ok I get it wink I might take things around to my mum she is very good at this sort of thing. Great idea. How are those new born snuggles going down? you lucky thing am so jealous

I will look into swimming, its probably safer than pounding away at the gym.
sweetie ull have two to snuggleenvy I so hope they're one of each! how are you feeling now about it all? is it still a bit surreal that there's two in there?

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 13:41:28

yes my book recommends swimming. I think keep does a lot of swimming so she may be along to tell you how great it is

I still cannot believe it is happening to be honest. We have our next scan a week on Monday so may have to believe it then if there are 2 still in there then. We are both really excited about it though. DH did ask how I will go to loo when they come along. I said I would have to take them with me. Glad he is thinking of the important things grin grin

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 14:32:50

Sweetie try new look for cheap mat wear! Anything stretchy will last you so much longer

keepitgoing Wed 05-Jun-13 15:59:18

Yes, I swim lots, it's great. The best thing for stopping me feel queasy. I'd do an aquaerobics class if I could but nothing like that here, so I just do lengths and a light work out. But I am vvv lucky in that we have a pool at our apartment so it's v easy to go most every day. We also have a running machine, and I'm doing a fast 25 min walk each day. I've ordered a DVD too which should arrive tomorrow, as I want to step it up a gear, but safely, now in the second trimester. It is american though...

sweetie I think you'll just have to wait for dh to get home to go to the loo - you won't have time... You should get double ML for twins!

BTW * sweetie* do you think you'll find out the sexes?

haha sweetie I love that! I actually asked my mum what the heck you do with the baby if you need the loo or want a shower while dh is at work.
keep that's impressive! I'd love a pool at home. I hate the gym really but its necessary I tend to gain weight very easily. I am by no means over weight but you may have noticed I'm very concious of it.
at the moment I walk to work every day which is about 35min and I still eat a lot of ww and low fat food. which I guess is how I've managed to not gain weight. I just need to be popped I'm pumped up like a balloon! I've not been to the gym for just over a week because I assume it will make me feel worse, might it actually make my nausea better?

A baby bouncer is very handy to put them in for loo trips. Although for twins it may be easier to just have adult nappies grin

argh gross rubber grin .

I use the baby bouncer, car seat if we have been out and I come home desperate for a pee, in emergencies she is put on a towel on the floor while I 'go' it's all do able grin

But yes, adult nappies would also be useful sometimes grin

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 19:33:33

I am not worried about the loo situation but I bet there will be times when I wish I had more than one pair of hands. I intend to get a playpen/travel cot for downstairs so will put them in there and they will have to carry on <naive emoticon>
Trix what was your Mums reply when you asked her?

I called at Matalan and bought 2 jersey tube skirts with no waistband so I think they should see me through for a while. They were only £10 each so quite a bargain.

she said take the baby with you!. my Downstairs loo is right opposite the lounge door so I guess if I leave the doors open and position baby so I can see it while I go that would be ok? I know nothing about babies! I've not met manygrin

Unless you plan on taking a book in with you, a baby will be fine waiting for you to go to the toilet. If they cry the whole time then it doesn't matter, it's only a couple of minutes and you can pick them up straight away afterwards.

We didn't get a moses basket for dd, she went in her crib if upstairs and her baby gym or bouncer when downstairs. As long as they are in a safe position then I wouldn't worry too much about it. She spends most of the time smiling, even though she turns into a screaming snot monster when I put her in her cot while I have a shower smile

thanks rubber. I'm sure ill have many more dumb questions. obviously its very soon for me to be worrying about these things yet. I read a Fred earlier where the woman ess panicing that she didn't have the faintest idea what to do with the baby once its here and I realized I'm the same!

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 20:26:29

I think it is normal to feel like that. I feel exactly the same and I will be getting double trouble.
We have a dog so I wouldn't leave the babies on the floor while I am out of the room. I am sure we will work it out.

I have a cat who avoids her like the plague grin

I have a teenager, if we're comparing animals gringrin

SweetieTime Wed 05-Jun-13 20:41:01

grin grin grin boo

haha grin boo
I'm quite detached at the moment from the fact that this might turn into an actual baby that I have to look after. ill prob get a huge shock when I begin my mat leave and realize I can't change a nappy.

Trix make sure you tell dh about the tradition of the dad changing the first nappy. The meconium ones are grim and having gone through labour you won't want to deal with tar like poo.

SOrry, phpone has stopped loading mn- what's that all about?! Brief laptop session here, but as I am still the proud owner of the Amazing Non-Sleeping Baby it'll be brief. Not been here for ages, but babies on the floor when tiny (and no dogs) is fine, I've not got a playpen or travel cot as my two howl the place down, and as the Amazing Non-Sleeping Baby is also a vomiter that creates a LOT of mess. He comes with me now. Toddles after me, and tried his hardest to peer down the toilet to see what's going on <grim emoticon> The other comes if I can be bothered to bring him! If not, i's fairly baby proofed, and believe me, the art of a speed wee is one you learn fast with 3 children under 2, I'm a master now!! Oh, and I have to rmember to shut the door if anyone is here, it's second nature to have a semi-public wee if its dh and I at home with our brood now grin . And don't worry about nappies, that's a;piece of cake you'll have nailed within days... It's the sleeping that's the Ishoo wink

Oh, last thing I read was knowing which is twin 1 and twin 2- the one nearest the exit/cervix will be labelled T1 on all your scans. It is always the same baby, orr they can't measure their growth. my t1 was also born first at my (very lovely) ELCS, and is now dt1 aka the Amazing Non-Sleeping Baby. If anyone is good at sewing, while you're at adjusting things, me and my fellow multiple mummies all reckon you need handles/ loops on the back of babygrows grin . You WILL be dragging a baby with poor head control onto feeding pillows, up the feeding pillow into a better position, into cushions, onto the floor from somewhere unsafe while holding the other. They will probably be crying. You will need a good hold, and they don't get this lovely supported cuddles business as much as they should. Fact grin . But you'll get Madonna ars from lugging two about!!

ANywya, said DT1 is up. As usual, so best dash before he wakes DD and dt2...

I'd not finished my rambling either

As you were with the glowing and baby growing ladies smile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 05-Jun-13 22:43:43

Quick post from me, if you want baby education I 100% recommend NCT classes!

Am off to bed now, shattered after being out all day!!

Will catch up properly tomorrow

rubber ill be sure to tell him!
thanks everyone.

SweetieTime Thu 06-Jun-13 09:07:24

Trix I know you are not on FB anymore but there is a great picture doing the rounds of a puppy with a 'tash and I know how much you luffs a cute puppy picture

Dream you will have to let me know more details of those babygro handles I need to get sewn on all baby clothes. I can imagine they will work a treat. I saw on FB you mentioned using a sling, this is something I think I will have to embrace. Can you let me know more details of what type you use etc. I am just thinking it might be easier to use a sling then my hands are free. I might be being a bit hopeful of course.

Sparks any twinges? How are you feeling today? How many naps do you have planned I love love love a nap

Bullets I will also be telling DH that it is tradition that he does first nappies. I am sure he will love that won't he.

Off to give my blood for my NT screening this morning as they need a week to process it so I can have the full results on the day of the scan rather than the anxious wait.

keepitgoing Thu 06-Jun-13 11:41:56

Ooh that's a better way round to do it sweetie.

Just woke up from my daily nap, going for a swim. But I'm not working, face, that's how I manage it...

keepitgoing Thu 06-Jun-13 11:49:47

And the only a good thing about dh being a doctor is he doesn't mind bad smells AT ALL. So I may dodge nappy duty a lot, I hope. At least those nasty first ones smile

SweetieTime Thu 06-Jun-13 12:27:20

my dh is a real wuss but he picks up dog poo so I am sure he will cope. I did work out we would be changing about 140 nappies a week shock shock shock so we better get used to it

keepitgoing Thu 06-Jun-13 12:57:15

God, you won't have time for anything else!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 06-Jun-13 13:39:22

Sweetie 140 nappies?!?! You might want to start buying them now!! Although I’m pretty sure as dib and dab get older you’ll use less. It’s a case of getting used to nappies I suppose.

Keep How are you going to cope when you move back here and you don’t have a pool? Or do team keep plan to buy a super posh pad with heated pool included?

I have zero naps planned for today because I didn’t get out of bed until gone 10. I am trying to keep active to be honest, operation eviction needs to get under way pretty sharpish.
I think I had my first proper false alarm yesterday (thanks Boo for coaching my through it via text) I had a horrendous cramping sensation, like nothing I’ve ever felt before. It started low and then radiated to the rest of my bump and round to my back, took my breath away. It didn’t last very long, maybe 45/60 secs and then I was just left with a bit of back ache and feeling completely shattered. I sat on the birthing ball waiting to see if anything else happened but zilch!! So I went to bed and slept through till 6 when MrS left for work. Once he left I went back to sleep till 10.

I’m totally ready for him to arrive now but I have this feeling I’m going to get Braxton hicks for ages and wont actually go in to proper labour until I’m overdue. I don’t think that Twinks has read the brooking memo about babies arriving whenever their mothers are ready for them.

oh and its actually law that partners change the meconium nappies!!!

keepitgoing Thu 06-Jun-13 13:53:13

Ooh sparks!!! Was that a BH? Brooking he comes v soon.

Ha ha to buying a pool. I don't even have a job, and its looking unlikely I'll get one at six months when we are home... I was just saying to dh how will I cope with Birmingham public pools...

SweetieTime Thu 06-Jun-13 13:53:21

Sparks I can not believe you have kept that episode from us, it sounds like a practice session to me. Twinks is obviously giving you warning that he is on his way. I think he has read the Brooking manual on the sly, but is just testing you. I really hope he comes soon.

I am just enjoying some loads chocolate raisins, well my book says raisins are a good source of iron and surely they count as at least one of your 5 a day, especially if you eat enough of them grin nom nom nom

Munxx Thu 06-Jun-13 13:58:00

Hello ladies!

Just popping in to see how you all are.

trix you sound exactly like I was! I actually kept putting off my early scan/booking in appointments as I was so frightened of actually being pg. losses do that you. Small milestones, you're doing well. Remember, a heartbeat at 6 weeks is a very good sign!

sweetie ten weeks wow! That's flown in. I second the hair band technique. I was into mat clothes at 8 weeks with ds!

keep again it seems like yesterday you had your bfp! Hope you are well.

boo, bullets, dream great to hear your news. I also just stick ds down while I go to the loo, dd follows me however.....

And hello to all other brookers!

keepitgoing Thu 06-Jun-13 16:31:40

munx it feels ages to me... I'm 15 weeks tomorrow though smile how old are your two?

Just brushed my teeth, and bleeding gums, first time for this. Is it to do with pregnancy?

SweetieTime Thu 06-Jun-13 17:07:51

keep i think it is a preggo thing. Do you have a dentist over there? Not sure there is much you can do other than switch to a softer brush

Withalittlesparkle Thu 06-Jun-13 17:20:36

Feds a preggo thing! Your gums get inflamed with hormones, get yourself to a dental hygienist for a proper scrub

omg sweetie how cute is that pup! thanks for sharing.
hi munx I'm glad its not just me being stupid! thanks for understanding, its very hard.
keep its a preggo thing gums bleed more easily in pregnancy, but I can't remember why. mine are getting bad but I'm starting to gag and feel suck when brushing and flossing. preggos get free dental care, I must sort mine. but don't know if they do that where you are.

Yes, gums can bleed more easily while pregnant. Make sure you visit your dentist and hygienist regularly and that you take good care of your teeth. Plenty of flossing to help your gums.

Corsodyl mouth wash can help with the gums too. As the others said, it is a pregnancy thing.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 06-Jun-13 18:30:45

Boo you'll need to book in before you get your free dental treatment

Withalittlesparkle Thu 06-Jun-13 18:30:56

I mean face

I know sparks I will defo drop by the docs after my scan on mon and get the ball rolling. sorting out the dentist is another thing that scares me. anything were I have to tell people I'm pregnant basically terrifys me.
do I really need to tell the girl I'm pregnant when I go for my bikini wax?!

Your skin can be more sensitive while pregnant so it may hurt a bit more than normal Trix

oh really, shit as if us ladies don't have to suffer enough already! god I'm such a wimp with waxing.

Take paracetamol before you go

Sling is invaluable imo smile . I love my Boba 3G, they all still use it too. I used to have a baby in by 8am every morning when mine were smaller and crankier... I also had a moby when they were little, but didn't get on with it so well, wanted to tandem sling but couldn't fathom it out, though musical loves hers. jaggy has a manduca and I'm tempted by one of those. I used to have an ergo (borrowed). Anything like that is ace and will see you through to toddlerhood. I can now take a single buggy, baby on my back, dd on buggy board for ease of access. Plus they fight, scream, writhe, are wrestled into the damn buggy but happily sit on my back- for a bit at least... Never a fight to sling them smile

I epilated in pregnancy and didn't think it was much different trix hope the waxing goes well... Eek!

Y y to bleeding gums. The trials of pregnancy...

keepitgoing Fri 07-Jun-13 03:13:32

Thanks all, I only went to the dentist ten days ago, he said a slight gingivitis but nothing to worry about.

I have put on 1.5kg! Hit the 60 kilo mark today smile

Gosh dream you sound like a super mum!

Withalittlesparkle Fri 07-Jun-13 07:50:06

Keep if you only went to the dentist 10 days ago then you're fine, mine just said I had to be careful because of swollen gums! Just keep those teeth well brushed

I dread to think how much I weigh, although I think until recently it's been all bump, now the weight is safely lodge around my face with major hamster cheeks going on but that's ok I'll worry about it post baby!!!

Another beautiful sunny day! I'm still in bed, but thinking its a garden sort of day! In fact it must be because MrS has set the parasol up for me already (he has now gone to work) if I got up now I could water the green house plants before it gets too warm..... But I don't think I can be bothered

SweetieTime Fri 07-Jun-13 09:24:46

Sparks MrS is really looking after you. Just take it easy and just do what you feel like. Make sure you put plenty of sun cream on as it is going to be a warm one!!

Keep sounds like the weight is going in the right direction. I was weighted earlier in the week and still the same, not sure how much longer last.

Dream thanks for all the sling info, I am making notes of slings and buggies for future reference. I have also found a sling library really near where I work on a Wednesday. So I am thinking of popping along there at some point. I defo think I will be investing if it helps me out.

I have to go to hospital this afternoon about my non clotty blood. I am hoping it will just be a case of giving up more blood for testing. I will see what they say. I must remember not to drop my pants as this is a different sort of Dr than the one I am used to seeing. You sort of just get into the habit wink

Withalittlesparkle Fri 07-Jun-13 12:09:53

Yes im very lucky to have someone like MrS he's rather special, can be annoying sometimes but then what man can't be? But on a whole he is a good egg!!

Out in the garden, covered in suntan lotion but I don't think it's enough so am retreating to the shade!!

Sweetie let us know how you get on at the docs

Withalittlesparkle Fri 07-Jun-13 22:30:08

Wondering whether nesting is restricted to just tidying the house...

Suddenly HAD to repack my hospital bag! Just need to chuck my phone, kindle and iPod in when the time comes! Even snacks and drinks are packed and ready!!

Then got MrS to give me a citrus foot rub (gets rid of dry skin) and remove my nail varnish, I've then had a shower and scrubbed every part of me that I can reach without falling over! Intensive conditioner on hair etc etc

So come on Twinks let's me having you!!!

Ooh Sparks you sound just like me 6 weeks ago, (except the foot rub, can't stand having my feet touched hmm) I was buffed, polished, trimed, conditioned, packed and ready for booby to arrive grin

Now come on twinkle, we need to meet you and know your name, stop messing about and just get on with it young man!! wink

Withalittlesparkle Sat 08-Jun-13 09:28:28

Boo I only had the foot rub because my feet are vile at the moment and I suddenly worried that the midwife was going up be spending an awful lot of time by my feet!!!

Off to the local shopping centre today, have been told walking can help get babies moving so decided the best way to do this was to combine it with a bit of shopping as well, and not even baby shopping this time, shopping for me!

Anyone else have nice weekend plans?

grin she won't be looking at your feet! Did you get anything nice on your shopping trip? It was Tesco for us this morning then the afternoon in the garden smile I word K in the sling while shopping for the first time, it was great.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 08-Jun-13 18:50:46

I bought a pack of baby towels... I wanted a sun hat but apparently have a giant head!! I did however enjoy a fruit smoothie and lunch at Burger King!

What sort of sling do you have? Want to buy one but not sure

Munxx Sat 08-Jun-13 19:09:47

I have an ergo, and I love it!

Getting exciting now sparks....... I too did the beauty routine just before I had ds. However, dd took me my surprise when she was born. We were building the crib and packing my bag while I was in full on labour. So I was very untended blush

I have a Joy and Joe sling, it is a stretchy one, lovely to wear and cheap too, under £20 if I remember right. I'm looking at ring slings next smile

Good luck finding a sun hat.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 08-Jun-13 21:24:00

Munxx it doesn't feel exciting, it feels like I'm just back to waiting now, like ttc, just another period of waiting (but obviously a much nicer one) how is it that the last 38 weeks seem to have flown by but now everything dragging?

(Can you tell I'm fed up and uncomfortable tonight?)

Busy week ahead though so hopefully keep my mind off things!

Oh Sparks don't be fed up, he won't be long now. What have you got planned next week?

Withalittlesparkle Sat 08-Jun-13 22:05:44

Midwife appts and having my hair cut! Plus I might get myself in for a mani/pedi and lunch with my sil OR I may nap some more lol

Definitely get a mani/pedi AND nap some more smile while you're out with your SIL don't forget to let loose with your hormones if she starts with that smelly boy stupidity!!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 09-Jun-13 14:34:09

Oh don't worry boo I have the perfect line prepared for when Twinks arrives, it will involve me lowering myself to the smelly boy level but I reckon I just need to say it once and then she'll reevaluate saying stuff like that in front on me!!

Do share ................. I love a good comeback line smile

keepitgoing Sun 09-Jun-13 15:29:50

What, she says boys are smelly?

Unbelievable isn't it Keep it is something like 'all girls together no smelly boys' shock in front of sparks with her smelly brooking baby boy on board shock

Withalittlesparkle Sun 09-Jun-13 15:46:49

Exactly right boo! Although let's hope the in laws aren't stalking me on here cus it'll rather out me as I've never heard anyone else ever say that, it's sort of said with a bit of a sing songy tune!

Well as this is anonymous they will never know it's you for sure wink they might just take the hint how wrong and childish it is though!

Withalittlesparkle Sun 09-Jun-13 19:52:52

Am I meant to be wildly bouncing on my birth ball or just gently rocking?! I want Twinks out now!!!

keepitgoing Mon 10-Jun-13 07:50:58

sparks what a ridiculous comment from your SIL. She'll see how awesome little boys are soon enough, and be green with envy. but let's be honest, teenage boys are not sweet smelling, eh boo

I really hope that twinkle comes soon. If not, I'd just lie in the sunshine, watch DVDs, etc.

sweetie i think it's just a week till your scan now! Nearly there, my lovely. I must say I am so much calmer about things since the scan, and time is going faster (not that that's hard!)

can i ask sparks, boo and anyone else lurking with babies about bonding with the baby. When did this happen for you? I am 15+3, and obv can't feel anything yet, so it all feels a bit abstract. I am over the moon to be pregnant, enjoying pregnancy and everything, but I don't feel bonded to the baby. Does that make sense? Is that bad? Normal? I think it'll be easier once i can feel movement, but as i have an anterior placenta I understand that can not be until 22 weeks or so.

That makes perfect sense Keep I felt distant from booby until after my 20 week scan. I think it is because until then it is a worry, you worry until your 12 week scan then you start again before your 20 week, I think it was after that, I could feel proper kicks and moves had a proper bump and you know that baby is ok you can relax and enjoy it the bond just happens.

Boys do smell a bit lot when they get to 15!! But I will just add that K is no sweet smelling princess, the sounds and smells that come out of her are amazing grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 10-Jun-13 09:18:05

Yes I think it was at least 20 weeks for me as well, until we started actually preparing for him! And I think when I started to look pregnant as well, I remember in the early days I just felt sick and fat like I was suffering from the worlds longest stomach bug!!after the 20 week scan we knew what he was, he had a name and everyone started talking about him as a baby rather than something really abstract

Oh and don't get me wrong I know ALL babies smell lol

That's the point though isn't it Sparks ALL babies smell, girls are no better than boys until we marry one and it becomes clear we are clearly better grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 10-Jun-13 10:39:13

Ah yes, when we live with a fully grown one we realise how truly bad they actually smell!!!

Keep I had an anterior placenta and didn't feel anything until about 22/23 weeks. It made me worried going into the 20 week scan as I wasn't told it was anterior at the 12 week scan. Once you start feeling movement then it really does make you realise that there is an actual, living person growing inside you.

Sparks bounce up and down and also rotate your hips in as wide a circle as possible. The rotating helps to push Twinks' head down on your cervix to encourage dilation. I think it stimulates the release of the hormones that start labour.

SweetieTime Mon 10-Jun-13 12:52:24

I am a bit worried about feeling the movement and kicks. I hope it doesn't freak me out. I have visions of Alien in my head.

<hangs head in shame and leaves>

It is strange at first but lovely, honest.

keepitgoing Mon 10-Jun-13 13:22:59

Thanks rubber, I'm glad you felt sth, some ladies say they feel almost nothing.

sweetie yours will be kicking each other playing doubles tennis

I think all babies smell yummy yummy yummy (spot who's never changed a nappy!)

Keep I've just changed a rather fragrant dd. If you ebf then the nappies smell sweet rather than stinky.

I'm currently washing the sweet smell and sight off of K's clothes and car seat cover shock


hi ladies, just checking in to say scan today was good, 8+2 today. big relief as I havent got much sickness.
sweetie when is your scan?
sparks are you over due now?

That's great news Trix really pleased for you.

thanks boo

SweetieTime Mon 10-Jun-13 15:33:13

Trix that is great news, so pleased things are progressing well for you. What happens next? Try not to worry about the lack of sickness, you might get lucky and not have any.

You lucky ladies with your fragrant smelling DDs. With the way my nose is at the moment I bet I could sniff them out from here wink

Sparks how is the bouncing doing?

My next scan is a week today, I am already starting to fret about it a bit. I suppose that is only normal to worry that all will be ok. Other than that all is well with me. Nothing much to report.

Sparks you do realise that any lack of posting on your part will have us deciding that it is because you are in labour? grin

Withalittlesparkle Mon 10-Jun-13 15:59:33

Quick post to confirm I'm NOT in labour!!

Just back from midwife, baby only 3/5 engaged so turns out no amount bouncing will encourage Twinks in to action!!

sweetie I have another private scan in 10days. then I don't think ill have another till the beginning July. when I will have my official 12wk and also a more indepth 12wk with the fetal med consultant.
we briefly saw a midwife at the hosp this morning who mentioned other tests. I said I'd have one now if there was something they could test now to see if this will be successful or not. no such thing unfortunately, I must start researching so I can make a break thru in med sciencehmm . anyway didnt really know what she ment as the can't do anything till approx 12wks. she did mention something where they take a bit of the placenta to test I forget what she called it. not something Id heard of, not CVS or amnio. but I dont want anything like that done its too risky.

actually maybe it was CVS, what's the full words? she used the full proper medical words for what ever it was anyway. but I don't get why I would choose it have that before I've even had a scan to see if there is any problems.

Chorionic Villus sampling

ah right yes I think that was what she said but confused me by calling it that rather than the abbreviation.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 11-Jun-13 04:03:54

Can't sleep AGAIN!! Bah!!

keepitgoing Tue 11-Jun-13 04:09:24

trix great news on the scan! I think she'd have mentioned cvs for a few reasons
-NT scanning is not diagnostic, ie it does not say one way or the other, just stratifies risk. Something like 30% of downs foetuses won't have a physical marker so wouldn't be picked up on a scan. Cvs would tell you for sure
-some people who've had a previous issue would want to know for certain. I don't know if or how much risk increases if you've had a prev positive, and can't remember if it was DS for you last time
-cvs can be done from 11 weeks, and I think results are fastish.

Of course, whether you choose to have this, amino, or nothing depends on what you'd do if it was positive, I guess. And how much you want to know for certain.

Are you still considering the harmony test? It was in the news the other day - great stuff.

Make sure you talk all this through with your midwife, or AN screening counsellor, as you need to know the options, risks, etc. Don't feel bad to ask them again if you don't understand, or need more info. It's their job. X

sweetie I won't tell you not to worry about Monday, but at least it'll be here soon. Odds are v good, as you know.

Thanks to all for nappy reassurance..........

sparks sorry twinks is not yet ready, but at least you know now. He's just too comfy!

I think I was very suprised they were asking about something they can't do for another 3/4wks. I've been trying to put things like that out of my mind so I'm not constantly worrying. I almost felt like she was saying there was something wrong. of course she wasn't, just giving us our options really. last time wasn't downs, it was a random chromosome as far as I know there's no name for it. the consultant certainly didn't call it anything other that a random chromosome issue that was unlikely to replicate.
I guess really I still don't know what I would actually do as pebble died before we needed to make any tough decisions.
CVS and amino terrify me so I think I'd always rather scrape the money together for a harmony test.
I guess I hadn't really thought about the fact that there may not be anything physical they can see on the scan.
its just the consultant seemed so positive that we didn't need to worry and there wouldn't be a problem this time.

keepitgoing Tue 11-Jun-13 07:56:14

Yes, but that's true for all of us. You just have to weigh up risks and benefits. That's great that they say last time shouldn't affect this time. The harmony test I think is brill, I'm not sure how many chromosomal issues it looks at, but as you're having the in depth scan that should be plenty?
One step at a time. You're doing so well. How is dh now, talking about the pg yet?

I feel confident enough at the moment that the scan and normal nt test will be fine.
dh was awful all weekend he started worrying about Monday's scan right from Sat morning. he was so moody I couldve killed him he was doing my head in. its understandable of course but I don't allow myself to get in those states about it especially not 2days before hand. theres always a high after a scan and he'll be fine for a week or so. the worrying will kick in again a day or 2 before our next scan which is in 9days so not long to wait.

Morning, not a lot to say today but thought I had better bump our thread up a bit smile

How is everyone feeling today?

keepitgoing Wed 12-Jun-13 08:14:22

Fought with dh about births this morning, ended up telling him I wouldn't have him there if he wasn't careful. He was being too doctor-y, all that matters is a safe baby. Yes, that's the most important, but not the only thing... We've made up now and he's promised to read around on women's experiences etc.

SweetieTime Wed 12-Jun-13 08:57:12

keep sorry to hear you have been having words but the birth is a long way off. I am sure dh will come around to the idea given time.

Nothing much to report here. I am getting really tired in the evening which makes me feel a bit bleugh. I am hoping this will pass in a while. keep do you still feel tired?

Sparks how you feeling? any signs of twinks moving into place?

Withalittlesparkle Wed 12-Jun-13 09:06:23

Keep I've had some issues with mrS so I can imagine being with a doctor is even harder but it's important that you do what's right for you, if you're not calm and relaxed then labour could be harder!

Nothing happening today, apart from getting my hair cut and replying a couple of emails! How boring!! I did dream about Twinks last night though, I had to change his nappy in the middle of a field! Random!!

keepitgoing Wed 12-Jun-13 09:27:42

Sorry, sweetie, yes I'm still tired. Nap after lunch, bed at 9.30/10 most days... But it is v hot here which doesn't help. I'm better than I was.

I don't want to even think about the birth till 20 weeks!

Come on twinks!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 12-Jun-13 09:40:13

Sorry sweetie we cross posted

That initial tiredness will go away eventually, but unfortunately it comes back! Anyone I speak to about being tired insists on telling me that's it, I'll be tired for the next 18 years! Oh the joy!!

SweetieTime Wed 12-Jun-13 09:55:32

you guys have made me feel a bit better. I hate it when random people take pleasure in telling you all the negatives. why not tell you all the lovely things such as newborn snuggles, cute toothless smiles and baby gurgles when they talk to you. You never seem to hear about the good bit only the whinging.

Ignore them Sparks people seem to delight in other people's misery and forget what is it really like.

Sweetie your placenta will be taking over some of the work after 12 weeks so your body gets a bit of a break, you will start to feel a bit better soon.

Keep better you have discussions about your labour and expectations now and not end up having a massive row on the day, looking at you Mr B cause problems later smile

I did have a lovely long post written then MN ate it, greedy MN!!

Withalittlesparkle Wed 12-Jun-13 10:17:45

Greedy MN indeed!!!

I'm generally ignoring everyone! Anyone who says 'he'll come when he is ready" gets a telepathic smack!!! I'm ready now, end of discussion!!!

Oh Sparks it is so frustrating isn't it! Come on Twinks, stop messing your mother about and come and meet us and your future wife grin

Withalittlesparkle Wed 12-Jun-13 10:52:57

We should probably point out that Twinks is marrying Booby, I have not betrothed my first born to boo herself lol

keepitgoing Wed 12-Jun-13 10:55:00

Kip can have one of sweeties twins then smile

You know what Sparks? Twins will come when he's ready grin

keepitgoing Wed 12-Jun-13 10:56:01

Boo, what did you row about on the day? Tell all.

I am v nervous for solars.

Or even Twin k s grin

Well what didn't we row about!! Firstly he went to work, told me he would be home by 3 then went off called and t

Oops, posted too soon!

Told me they had him on shift till 7.30 and would I mind calling them and telling them I was in labour (basically he didn't sort his shift out and wanted me to do it) my reply was very 4 letter worded!

When he got home I found out he hadn't packed himselfhimself hospital bag even though he said he had/would so we were nearly late.

While we were at the hospital in the full throws of labour every single time I went to grab his hand he was asleep! actually very nearly punched him in the face, only thing stopping me was the drip in my hand wouldn't let me reach blush

That's the short version.

SweetieTime Wed 12-Jun-13 12:23:29

boo I bet they put short drips in for that very reason. I think men are doing well if they don't get a slap during labour wink

So exciting looks like we will be getting a new graduate very soon. I am so chuffed

gringrin maybe they do Sweetie

Right, pop your feet out of the way, I had better run a Hoover through this place ready for the new grads -- which is more than I do at home-- wink

Virtual house work is much more fun than the real stuff'

SweetieTime Wed 12-Jun-13 14:24:51

dumb question of the day - can I still eat prawns as a preggo?

keepitgoing Wed 12-Jun-13 16:06:24

Best not sweetie because risk of food poisoning.

Ah boo I remember now.

Beaming for solars!

Look here. and here Sweetie both are pro prawns smilesmile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 12-Jun-13 20:51:34

Prawns are fine IF cooked

GreenOlives Thu 13-Jun-13 08:19:43

You fell off my TIO! blush Now I can keep stalking you again grin

SweetieTime Thu 13-Jun-13 09:51:06

definitely don't feel like prawns today. Just been really sick in grotty work toilet blush I just hope I don't smell of sick now as I have a meeting with a supplier.

keepitgoing Thu 13-Jun-13 09:59:34

Oh no poor you. Well, you're 12 weeks soon, the magic moment...

Oh Sweetie that's good/bad, I'm sure you don't smell of sick at all!! Hopefully you can make it through your meeting with out vomming! SYMPTOMS grin

SweetieTime Thu 13-Jun-13 10:05:41

I would have thought proper sickness would have kicked in ages ago. I wonder if it has been delayed due to the meds and now I am weening of they are showing themselves.
I bet I have a bit of a wiff of sick and I caught the edges of my hair and pebble dashed my tights

sweetie poor you! I thought u were going to get away with ms. mind due I always thought ms hit its peak at around 10wks. can't remember if I read that or someone told me it.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 13-Jun-13 19:04:09

I think MS gets worse at the point when the placenta takes over and then it should in theory start to die down BUT please please don't pin your hopes up on 12 weeks being the magical feel good marker, it's just not always the case

Sweetie keep a mini travel bottle of mouthwash in your handbag just in case! I found it just made me feel more human to be able to swill my mouth out after any vomming occurred!!

No news with me hmm I have a growth scan tomorrow, pretty standard after the one I had two weeks ago, it's because my fundal measurements just aren't that accurate! Anyway it's the last scan (and Mondays appt was the last midwife appt) until I'm officially overdue! 39 weeks tomorrow!! Spending a large portion of tonight on my birth ball just to see if I can kick anything off!!

SweetieTime Thu 13-Jun-13 20:13:34

Sparks fingers crossed for the scan tomorrow, hope it shows Twinks has got his head down and is ready for arrival. Get bouncing, swivelling and rotating or whatever it is you do in the birth ball lovely

Fortunately I had some extra strong mints so wasn't too bad, but I will get some mouth wash. Am going to work from home tomorrow in case it happens again. Also being sick in the work toilet was pretty grim, thank goodness none of the other cubicles were occupied. I have felt surprising well for the rest of the day so maybe it has done me good.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 13-Jun-13 20:31:17

You do a combination of all three but not sure how effective it is!

I always felt better after having a vom!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 13-Jun-13 23:29:05

Ah superb, after spending all day being really quiet Twinks has decided that now is the perfect time to spin himself round on my bladder, meaning that I literally have to pee every couple of minutes for constant fear of wetting myself!!!

How was your night Sparks? Hopefully you managed some sleep.

Sweetie are you going to try and work from home? Hopefully yesterday was a one off.

Keep how are you? Making plans for the big move back?

Well not much to report here, K is still being dreamy but toddly boo is poorly so no Playgroup for the 2nd day, not sure whether to call the Dr for an appointment, if I don't he won't get seen till Monday hmm

Oops used wrong face, should have been confused

SweetieTime Fri 14-Jun-13 10:31:12

boo hope toddlyboo is ok. I would try get him into drs if you are worried

sparks did twinks settle down? Must be all the birth ball action getting him all active

well another puking session here this morningsad at least I was at home. it came on really suddenly and went away just as quickly. Again I feel fine now confused is this how things are going to be now?

I called the Dr, they will pop him in as an extra so they call later to see him.

Hopefully the sickness won't just you too long Sweetie.

am now a mwepp!

Well done Trix, what's next for you and treats??

thanks boo only had a small cry. I have a private scan on the 20th then just need to wait for my nuchal 12wk scan appointment to come through.

SweetieTime Fri 14-Jun-13 15:26:43

woo hoo Trix that is great news. You are bound to be a bit sad too. was the midwife sympathetic to you?

I mentioned to my mum that the elastic on my knickers was getting a bit tight around my forming bump. So bless her she called around this afternoon with 6 pairs of the biggest knickers I have ever seen blush blush Both me and dh could comfortably fit in them together. I suppose they will be comfy if they stay up shock shock shock

yes sweetie she was lovely. I just get teary going over all the previous mcs but I know she has to ask.
you've made me laugh about the knickers! hopefully they are more comfortable for you though!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 15-Jun-13 02:42:19

Well done for finally booking in face

So last night I managed to get some sleep, I had a dream about going for an operation and appear to have spent the whole night dreaming I was under general anaesthetic, woke up rather refreshed! went shopping with mil and poss over did it slightly! So now my SPD has flared up and I'm stupidly uncomfortable!

Also had my scan, probably the final one until he arrives! All fine, perfectly average in fact (never thought I'd be so happy to be average) he has a chunky belly smile midwife said the head is 'well down' although wouldn't give me a estimate to how engaged he is!

Just a waiting game now then!! Come on Twinks 30% of full term babies are born before their due date, time to stop being average and start bucking some trends!!!

SweetieTime Sat 15-Jun-13 09:22:07

Aw Trix I am so glad it went ok and she was understanding. She has to ask those tough questions too. Hopefully now that is out of the way you can concentrate on this one.

Sparks sorry to hear you are feeling uncomfortable with the SPD, can you rest up today? Such good news too that Twinks is getting himself ready for his arrival. He needs to buck that trend and get himself here pronto!!!

DH has booked us a night away to Lincoln to take our minds of Mondays scan. Neither of has been before so it will be nice to go somewhere different. I hope it does the trick although I am sure the nerves will still be there when we get back. It is very sweet of him to be so thoughtful though.
Hope everyone else has a lovely weekend planned, and boo good luck with the open day your are running.

GreenOlives Sat 15-Jun-13 09:28:08

sweetie What a lovely DH you have! smile Lincoln is really nice too, enjoy and try not to worry about the scan, I'm brooking no argument that it will be perfect and a great opportunity to see both your little babes again grin
Come on twinks! grin
boo Enjoy the summer fayre, sounds fab (and very well organised!) smile

GreenOlives Sat 15-Jun-13 09:29:04

Waves at trix and keep too smile

Withalittlesparkle Sat 15-Jun-13 12:33:43

Am resting as best I can today, was meant to be taking the cats to the vets but mrS is going to have to take them on his own (only for vaccination boosters anyway) plus I've started being rather violently sick, twice today now hmm so don't want to vom on my kitties!! Hope I'm not coming down with something!!

I loved Lincoln, such a nice little town! The cathedral is stunning!!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 15-Jun-13 12:35:09

Oh and don't worry about your scan (like I'm not a bundle of nerves before each scan, even my later growth ones)

Morning smile wow yesterday went so well, we raised well over £650 grin I was absolutely Knackered last night though.

Sweetie what time is your scan tomorrow? I am sure, given your symptoms this week, that it will be absolutely fine.

Sparks just keep bouncing and rotating smile Twinks get a bloody move on!!! wink

Keep how are you doing? Getting ready to come back?

<cleans up a bit ready for Solars>

Well our big plans today involve a car boot sale and a visit to my brother. What you all up to?

TheLittleFriend Sun 16-Jun-13 10:32:15

Just checking in so I'm on the thread for when the next brooking baby arrives smile

Withalittlesparkle Sun 16-Jun-13 11:22:15

Thanks for the vote of confidence little but have a sneaking suspicion that a new thread may have started before I have my sneeze!!! Turns out I'm an elephant and have the gestational time scale to match!!

^^^^^ said every pregnant woman ever grin

SweetieTime Sun 16-Jun-13 15:32:43

Aw Sparks I was hoping to have come back to new born snuggles!! So sorry Twinks is taking his time. He is obviously VERY happy where he is.

boo well done with the fund raising, I am not surprised you were shattered. Hope you have managed to take it easy as you can with a teenager, toddler and new born today.

We are back from our weekend away which was lovely, just what we needed. Sparks you could have warned me about the steepness of the hill up to the cathedral. I really though I wouldn't be able to make it but I think I was more scared coming down again in case I fell. We are going to my Parents shortly for big Sunday dinner, homemade Yorkshire puddings with three bird roast and veggies followed by apple and rhubarb crumble or profritta (sp) rolls. My Mum is a great cook and loves putting on a spread for the family. I will be rolling home later grin

keepitgoing Sun 16-Jun-13 15:55:48

Ooh I adore apple crumble!

We too have been away, in a nat park. Steep steps down to a waterfall, I am also paranoid about slipping... So shattered now.

Five weeks till we go home. Tomorrow I get organised and start writing lists!

All good here, I have a doctor's appt on Friday for heartbeat listening, bloods, urine etc.

Ooh sweetie huge good luck for the scan tomorrow. Hope its early?

sparks am brooking for twinks to show before your due date...

Sweetie lunch sounds fab, hope your scan is early so you're not hanging about. Brooking for you.

Keep are you excited or will you miss your maid, pool and wall to wall sunshine life over there grinwink

Sparks also Brooking for a nice early and fast sneeze.

SweetieTime Sun 16-Jun-13 19:39:39

my scan isn't until 5.40 so I have all day to stress about it

That's pants Sweetie it will soon come round though. Have you told anyone in Rl yet?

Munxx Sun 16-Jun-13 22:32:08

Just popping in with some brooking for sweetie for tomorrow will be thinking of you

keepitgoing Mon 17-Jun-13 06:21:14

What?! I'll be long in bed by then sweetie. How thoughtless of the Nhs...

I leave five weeks today! Am v excited really, boo, though there is a scary amount of things for me to sort both before and after... I can't wait to set up house, settle in, etc. And see friends and family. New niece due mid July as well.

Jtrix which day this week is your scan? How are you holding up?

Now, where's that solars??

Oooo Oooo! have you seen! where is everyone! get arses over to conception!
good luck for later sweetie.
I have a scan on thrus at 7.35pm.

Amazing news over on conception!!

SweetieTime Mon 17-Jun-13 11:27:25

<wizzes around with the vac>
<plumps the cushions>
<spreads out selection of magazines>
<fills fruit bowl and leave plate of muffins>

Just thought I would make the place acceptable for all the new arrivals. It is so exciting around here at the moment.

keep what is the first thing you are going to do when you get home? Do you know where you will be living yet?

Time is passing sssssoooooooooo slowly today. It is my own fault as I booked the scan for when DH finishes work as we have our NHS scan next Monday so he didn't want to have to pop out twice. keep this is a private scan so I could have booked it for anytime - lesson learnt!!

keepitgoing Mon 17-Jun-13 11:35:29

Good, now don't do it again young lady. Before work would have been better!!

The first thing I'll do? Visit new niece then go rental househunting... Hmmm. We will be moving to Birmingham, or somewhere nearby, I don't fancy the city and my kitty wouldn't like it either

It's super exciting here@!! Ivf is just amazing. Hope they come over soon, as sparks will be sneezing later today. Hear that twinkle?!?!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 12:23:52

Today I actually don't want to sneeze I feel completely rubbish, I don't think I'd have the energy to push if anything were to happen today!!

Sweetie can't wait to hear about the scan, it's going to be perfect!!

It's very tidy in here grin

Sweetie you chose the time, what were you thinking shock Brooking for 2 lovely little waving babies smilesmile

Sparks make your mind up, you want him out, you want him to stay .... wink are you poorly or just tired out?

Keep good luck with the preparations, remember you must be in charge and watch everyone else doing the bending and lifting!

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 12:59:28

I know boo I'm sending totally mixed vibes!! I was really rather sick again while eating my crumpets this morning sad

Oh love smile that's all you need on top of being pg but you know what I think about vomming at 39 weeks wink hope you feel better soon and twinks doesn't make you wait much longer thanks

sweetie its so awkward trying to book these things around work isn't it. I've got mine so late because of dhs work. thurs will be a looooong day.
hope your days not dragging.

TheLittleFriend Mon 17-Jun-13 13:47:17

Good luck for later sweetie, hope the day isn't going too slowly smile

Solars Mon 17-Jun-13 15:18:03

<tentatively sidles in> I was going to wait until I am about 6 weeks and see something on the scan as it still feels un real but couldn't resist making my way over and checking out the place, it looks lovely ladies!!

Also want to add my brooking for Sweetie got everything crossed for you, lovely.

Sparkes I'm brooking for an imminent sneeze!!

I thought the 2ww was nerve racking enough but waiting for the blood tests and scans has brought the nerves onto a completely new level! How have you ladies managed??

Waves to everyone else x

Welcome Solars, take a seat and settle in smile we managed by coming here and having a complete mental breakdown grin. I am so happy to see you over here.

Solars Mon 17-Jun-13 15:29:15

I'm sure I'll fit in nicely with the mental breakdowns then Boo grin

Solars Mon 17-Jun-13 15:29:48

<awaits Geeks arrival>

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 18:18:19

Eeeks no news from sweetie?

Sweetie news on FB smilesmile

Munxx Mon 17-Jun-13 20:23:31

Who do I pm about the fb group? Beginning to think I may need to rejoin!

SweetieTime Mon 17-Jun-13 20:25:19

Sorry all for keeping you waiting. I have been frantically telling friends and family. I thought I was good at multi tasking but this evening has tested me to the limit.

All was well at the scan. They were both still in there!! They were both measuring a week ahead of my 11+6, I am sure she said one was 13+1 and the other was 12+6. The downs risk came back at 1/17000 so that was such a relief to us both. The twins were wriggling around loads which was really weird to see on the screen but not feel. It is all starting to feel very real now. We have told both our families and close friends so that is it now until 20 week+ scan.

TheLittleFriend Mon 17-Jun-13 20:28:43

Sweetie this is just the best news smilesmilesmile

Was us brilliant to be able to tell people? And what did they think about twins!!

Munxx Mon 17-Jun-13 20:28:53

grin sweetie congratulations! I bet your family and friends were so excited too!

Aah how did they all take it, being told about the pg would be thrilling enough but adding on the twin news must have been amazing for them smilesmile

Withalittlesparkle Mon 17-Jun-13 20:31:46

Yay sweetie I'm so stupidly happy for you!! My cousin has twins, it's hard work but they're so very cute!!

I know what you mean about watching them wriggle and not being able to feel it, i always found that really weird, in the most amazing sort of way!!!

Munxx if you want to join the FB group, pm someone who is in it, I will do it if you want, tell them your name and what your profile pic looks like and tidy can add you. It is totally top secret, it pops up in your news feed but no one else can see it at all smile

Still gringrin for you sweetie

musicalmrs Mon 17-Jun-13 20:54:01

Aww Sweetie yay for getting to tell everyone - how wonderful! I know what you mean about the wiggling and not being able to feel it. It won't be long until you do though.. smile

Lovely to see you over here Solars smile

(I lurk here lots but never get round to posting from my phone - sorry lovely brookers! Rest assured I'm brooking that all grads are having lovely, symptom free, trouble free worry free pregnancies, gearing up for their sneezes)

keepitgoing Tue 18-Jun-13 04:18:42

sweetie amazing, fabulous, news!! Gosh, they're big... Actually mine was five days ahead at my 13 week scan. How was telling everyone? Did you have any of my weird reluctance, or was all just good fun. Did you drop the pregnancy first, then the twins bit, or all at once?

Congratulations smile

Argh I have just started writing a to do list and it's massive.....

keepitgoing Tue 18-Jun-13 04:25:39

Hey solars!! So good to see you. I imagine you'll get scanned mid next week - you don't want it too early or you may not see the HB. Your clinic is so full on!!! As for tiredness, I've taken to having a one hour nap after lunch lady of leisure though but even so I'm in bed by 10. We're going out tonight with friends and I'm having a minor panic I'll fall asleep.

As for the mentalling, for the first two weeks I was trying to tell myself I was just happy it had worked and not get too attached yeah right. I had a bit of bleeding at 7+3 and freaked out till I was scanned the next day. I think the truth is there's nothing to make it better except keep your mind off it, and remember each day that goes by is good news.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 18-Jun-13 07:22:54

Oh now come on this seriously isn't part of the deal!! My morning sickness is well and truly back sad I'm meant to be going out with some friends today but I think I'm going to have to pass!!

That's awful Sparks I hope it doesn't last long, just make sure you try to drink plenty, it is too easy to get dehydration. I hope you got to meet your friends. Do you think it is worth mentioning to your mw?

SweetieTime Tue 18-Jun-13 10:20:05

thanks for all your good wishes and brooking yesterday it obviously worked. I am quite sore, feel bruised almost, across my tummy. The dr was quite firm with the probe especially as one twin kept turning over and was camera shy. keep did you feel like this after your scan?

sparks sorry your sickness has returned. I would say it is worth a call to the mw. hope it goes off a bit and you can meet your friends

Solars lovely to see you over here. Have they told you when they will scan you? I was so nervous at first as I had womble aches for ages and was convinced af was about to arrive. The nurse said it could be the progesterone or everything stretching to make room. so try not to worry if you get the odd niggles. hope it is starting to sink in. I am still so pleased for you.

Withalittlesparkle Tue 18-Jun-13 10:46:38

Thanks both but I feel a bit better after having a bit more sleep! So I'll keep an eye on it today if tomorrow I'm the same then I'll call my midwife. I've not had to call her for anything yet and I'm so close to be done I sort of dont want to (some idiot pride thing)

Sweetie all my scans (2 nhs, 2 private and 3 growth) have been quite uncomfortable, and left me feeling quite sensitive the following day. Especially my 20 week scan because Twinks was wedged in my hip, so the sonographer had my low on my side and kept jabbing me with scanner thing! I felt like a glass ketchup bottle!!

keepitgoing Tue 18-Jun-13 11:00:07

I don't think I did sweetie, but then you've got two in there. I suppose it depends where they are. I was so pleased not to have a dildo cam, my first tummy scan!!

I think I've mildly pulled something low in my groin. It's a bit twingey but only one side so I don't think its ligament pain. Will lay off exercises till its better.

Poor sparks.

Solars Tue 18-Jun-13 11:47:41

That is fantastic scan news Sweetie I bet you're breathing a big sigh of relief! I am very nervous. They haven't given me a date yet for a scan but assume it will be sometime next week. I'm getting a few twinges here and there but so far so good.

Sparkes you poor thing, hope you feel better soon and are able to meet your friends.

Keep we're cautiously happy at the moment but I tell you these blood tests every other day is a little nerve racking to say the least. Thankfully I've a bit of work today to keep me busy until they call later. Have fun and try to stay awake this evening!

SweetieTime Tue 18-Jun-13 17:09:17

Solars hope you are getting used to posting in here!! Twinges are very normal, I had strange cramps near my hip bones for ages. I was convinced I was having an eptopic but obviously not. How is MrS coping with the news?

Sparks did you perk up this afternoon? I am keeping my fingers crossed for a sick free day tomorrow for you.

Keep light swimming might help with the ligament damage.

Sparks I think I must have had a similar experience to you on the scan front. At least with fanjo scans they are quite gentle. I am sure I am bruised on my tummy, every time I rolled my chair up to my desk today I could feel in on my sensitive tummy. I hope it hasn't hurt the twins.

sweetie glad your scan was so amazing! how cute seeing them both wriggling about.
strange that you feel so battered, I've never had that but I've had some fairly rough fanny cams!
so when u have my scan on thrus ill be 9+5, will we see movement?

Withalittlesparkle Tue 18-Jun-13 18:06:00

Sweetie it won't have hurt the twins, they're still rather tiny at this point and well padded by your stomach and waters etc!!!

I managed to get some rest today and feel so much better for it!! Didnt make it out today though but hoping to catch up with the same group tomorrow evening!!

Getting heavy feelings when I stand up, am reading that as Twinks being fully engaged! Am going to try and stop stressing about when he is going to arrive and just take every day as a chance to rest!

Hope everyone is doing ok today

Withalittlesparkle Tue 18-Jun-13 21:05:19

Oh and face you may very well see movement but don't forget baby is rather small still, so you may see small amounts of movement or full of somersaults! What sort of movement did you get before when you were at this stage?

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 03:11:05

Face I had a scan at exactly 9+4. It looks quite baby like, and there was lots of movement, more like dancing and boxing than somersaults. They measured and we heard the hb. It was lovely.

Have also had some rough fanny cams. My worst was maybe that 9+4 one as they maneuvered to see the baby!

Good news on the heavy feelings sparks! He has two days to be early, better get started!!

keep they did fanny cam at that stage?!
I remember my 8+6 scan last time looked quite baby like I thought more so than the 8+2 I had this time. Didn't see movements at either. I remember seeing the first little movements but I was over 10wks at that scan. I always think that whilest their still so small and growing and developing constantly that a few days could make a big difference. I really hope we see a bit of a wriggle!

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 08:01:59

I hope so too! But if not don't worry. Tbh if he hadn't pointed it out I'd have thought it was just being moved, rather than moving.

Yes, they did fanny cam. Maybe they just prefer it here, I think you can see more? Maybe also as they were checking my giant ivf ovaries had gone down, don't know.

they've changed my scan I'm having it today at 3.10pm so dh won't be able to come angry .
I guess its just the preference of whoever's doing it I was suprised my scan last time was a belly one she just said she prefers it that way and that luckily she could see mine really clearly I was 8+2 so really expected fanny cam.

SweetieTime Wed 19-Jun-13 12:10:55

good luck for the scan Trix can your mum go with you?

my dads coming because he'll drive me so I won't be alone. just feels strange that dh won't be there.

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 12:44:18

Oh that's sads he can't be there. But good luck!! Enjoy.

SweetieTime Wed 19-Jun-13 12:44:59

at least you will have someone there with you. hope it all goes well and you see treat moving around in there

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 12:50:47

I have dullish pain v low. What is this? Ligaments stretching, have I pulled sth, or is it worrying (it doesn't feel like uterus, too low).

Withalittlesparkle Wed 19-Jun-13 13:03:58

Keep it's probably ligaments, I'm afraid that's how my SPD started!!!

keep hope it gets better soon.

I would say ligaments too, tis Kip making a bit more space smile

Trix sorry your DH won't be there, but good luck for the scan.

K has got a cold but has also now stopped feeding, I called for a Dr appointment and got told no, the hv would come, she came, said there is nothing wrong and decided she was more concerned about me as I looked a bit upset shock no shit Sherlock, my baby is not feeding, my boobs are about to explode, I want to see the Dr and you tell me there is nowt wrong! angry luckily she did say if K doesn't feed by 2 she will get us seen. And breathe ........................

god boo I'm suprised you didn't smack her. how stupid! hope you get to see the doc. well actually hope k perks up smile

SweetieTime Wed 19-Jun-13 13:57:50

boo oh goodness what a nightmare. I thought it was a given the new baby are given priority appointments at Drs. I would ring regardless of k feeding to get her seen. in the meantime I think you should have a nice cuppa and a biscuit or chocolate.

I forgot to tell you all that I was chatting to dh about the twins measurements being so ahead. so he pipes up maybe they are going to be big babies. oh and as an after thought that he was 10 pounds when bourn. omg I am having jumbo twins!!!

Loopyaboutmy2boys Wed 19-Jun-13 14:42:02

Boo...hoping its not the same, but my ds2 stopped feeding at 11 weeks, also had a cold and we ended up going to out of hours gp and was immediately admitted into hospital for 5 days with him being tube fed and on oxygen as he had bronchiolitis. Definitely don't let them fob you off.

Oh Loopy that's sounds awful, I won't be fobbed don't worry about that, I will be calling at 3 (was told they would call me after 2) and demanding she is seen!

scan was all good. there was a tiny bit of a wriggle! grin

GreenOlives Wed 19-Jun-13 15:45:09

Hope you've got the doc appt sorted boo and brooking that K is right as rain very soon.

Lovely scan news trix grin

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 16:06:39

grin trix you're doing vv well. Try and talk to dh about your pregnancy today, lovely, You Are Pregnant smile

keepitgoing Wed 19-Jun-13 16:09:30

grin trix you're doing vv well. Try and talk to dh about your pregnancy today, lovely, You Are Pregnant smile

sweetie I can't believe dh just tells you now that he was a giant baby!! Two giant twins, gulp. How's the bump...

Thanks for the reassurance sparks and boo. Hope it doesn't get worse.brooking for k to get better ASAP but if not then that you see the doc.


its so hard. dh was quite upset he couldn't come. not helpful when he worrys so much as it is. I took a video of the whole thing on my phone. its not always very clear but you can see the little legs really well.

SweetieTime Wed 19-Jun-13 20:00:09

Trix I am so pleased all was ok at your scan. It is a shame DH couldn't come with you but well done you on recording it on your phone.

boo any news on K? Hope you managed to get sorted at the Drs.

Trix great scan news! Hope your DH enjoyed his footage.

We got K to the Dr, she has a respiratory viral thingy. Hopefully she will be better soon.

keepitgoing Thu 20-Jun-13 09:40:15

Oh trix it is hard, I can't imagine really what you're going through. But I think you are doing amazingly. You know that your chance of miscarriage is really low now you're at just about 10 weeks. Have you started to wean off the steroids? I hope that you will start to feel better when you do, though I imagine that is scary in itself, I know I was v nervous when coming off the fanny candles. And I know that you're terrified that they'll find something wrong at 12 weeks, but the chance of that is really really small. You just had awful luck last time with Pebble, but that was a one off. You are in no different a position to anyone else for that, in fact better than most of us as you are v young. Anyway, I hope you know that all I mean by this rambling is that we are all brooking for you, and here to hold your hand for the next couple of weeks.

boo glad that K is diagnosed - she'll be on the mend now, poor little thing.

keep you've made me well up a bit there. thank you for your kind words. I'm actually happy to be weaning off my steroids! but I'm on everything else till 16wks. I was actually saying to dh this morning that its so unlikely we will have the same problem again. its gotta be 4th time lucky right!

Withalittlesparkle Thu 20-Jun-13 17:50:10

Oh god this muggy heat is going to kill me!!!

SweetieTime Thu 20-Jun-13 17:54:16

Boo glad you got the see Dr yesterday. Hope little K is on the mend now.

Trix hope you feel a bit better today after seeing the HB yesterday. It is such a reassuring sight.

I wore maternity trousers for work today, get me, but they were a bit big as I don't have much of a bump so I kept having to hitch them up. Not long til I will be filling them I am sure.
I have also very kindly been offered a couple of baby bits by my line manager who has 2 grandkids but have grown out of them. She has offered me a vibrating bouncer chair and play mat with soft sides and mobile toys hanging over the top. She says she doesn't want any money for them but I feel I should give her something, what do you suggest?

I am off to see dinkMW tomorrow, I have to take a pee sample. Should this be FMU? Or am I thinking too much about pee stick pee IYSWIM.

Withalittlesparkle Thu 20-Jun-13 18:07:55

Sweetie accept the stuff and then buy her a bottle of wine as a thank you, trust me if people are offering stuff you should just accept, babies are expensive... Never mind buying stuff for two of them!!!

Your pee sample can be from any time in the day but I think they prefer 'fresh' so I always try to go just before my appts

Booby is much better smile

keepitgoing Fri 21-Jun-13 03:15:10

Sweetie I agree a bottle of wine should be fine. I can't believe you're in mat clothes already - overtaking me!! I am just wearing the loose clothes I have/unzipping slightly, and bought a couple of long tops to hide that fact.

Sparks - not much sympathy here on the heat front... It can't be that hot? I was out with some ladies here last night who were all moaning about late pregnancy in the tropics. I'm glad I'll be home and miss that i'm sure I'll whinge about how freezing it is

Boo, so happy baby boo is on the mend.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 21-Jun-13 07:26:23

It's just really rather muggy, we're in desperate need of a good thunderstorm! And my internal thermostat is well off so I'm mildly overheating at the best of times!!

SweetieTime Fri 21-Jun-13 08:17:23

boo did you just call the delish K booby? shame on you grin grin grin so pleased she is getting better

keep i am still in normal stuff really. I wore my normal work trousers earlier in the week and have my normal jeggings on today. It is just nice to be a bit comfier around the middle when sitting for most of the day

thanks for the tips for giving my boss for her baby stuff. I have told DH to accept anything we are offered. he is a bit of a snob so might not but I am more realistic and know how much it will cost <eyes water at the thought>

keepitgoing Fri 21-Jun-13 09:10:53

Heard heart beat this afternoon after 30 secs of searching and me fretting. It was quieter than last time so I fretted till dh said they'd just have had the volume lower!! blush I bought some baby socks, my first purchase. Super cute.

sweetie I think you'll out-bump me at the meet up if its in August! smile

I think I'm gonna have to restrain dh. He wants to get amongst all else a super duper video long range baby monitor for hundreds of pounds. I have to keep reminding him I Have No Job!! smile bless, he's just excited.

SweetieTime Fri 21-Jun-13 10:45:17

woo hoo keep great news on the hb, after an anxious wait I imagine. How many beats was kips little heart beating? Do you agree with the thought that different sex babies have different speed hbs? Or is it another myth?

I think there will be no way my bump won't be massive by Aug. I might be only fitting into tents by then. I don't really care as long as everything inside is growing as it should.

MW, it wasn't dinkmw but a stand in who seemed much more switched on, thinks I have a UTI so she has sent my pee to be tested, the glamour of it. Apparently very common in pregnancy, bizarrely I don't have any symptoms again I really do think I must have weak hormones or something.
I got home to find a parcel addressed to me, so I opened it to find a Radley changing bag - have I mentioned I proper luff my DH. So this is our first baby purchase. It is very large so I am sure it will be plenty roomy for all the twins needs. boo or Sparks can you list what goes in a changing bag? I am really that clueless but it would be nice to know for when the time comes.

Apparently after our scan on Monday I will see the twins consultant at the same time. So I better go prepared with all my questions. I might send Dream a note of what she thinks I should ask as she is the Brooking twins expert.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 21-Jun-13 11:22:06

Keep fab news about the heartbeat, it's only natural to worry! The first time they used a Doppler on me it took then ages to find a HB cue panic, then she found it, phew!! Only to loose it seconds later, I actually cried because I thought Twinks had literally died while we listened!!!! Preggo brain makes you think crazy things!

Sweetie, a lot of Utis are symptom less and that's why they take them seriously, it'll probably be clear but if not you'll be bunged on a course of antibiotics to clear it right up!!

I have absolutely no idea what goes in a changing bag!! I'm planning to work it out trial by error!!!

Oh and we're the proud owners of a super duper video monitor (mrS picked) let mrK pick it but under the conditions you get to pick everything else

Munxx Fri 21-Jun-13 13:34:56

Chocolate is essential for your changing bag.

If you are BFing really just nappies, wipes, Muslins and spare clothes!

If FF then your gear for that.

Sorry totally butting in but so excited for all the pg brokers!

SweetieTime Fri 21-Jun-13 13:41:16

Munxx you may have noticed we need alk the help we can get. I will be able to fit a hell of a lot of chocolate in this bag. I reckon I could fit both twins in it when they are small. wink I do know you are not really supposed to do that.

SweetieTime Fri 21-Jun-13 13:44:18

Sparks Dh has been eyeing up those camera monitor things too. I think he secretly goes looking for stuff. Apparently he has seen them in babies r us and Costco. I have been to neither of these places recently so he must go in his lunch hour. at least he is showing an interest

Withalittlesparkle Fri 21-Jun-13 13:44:33

Sweetie my bag is so big I think I might need to put Twinks in the basket of the buggy and my bag in the actual buggy!!!

Munxx Fri 21-Jun-13 13:48:13

The truth? I used a changing bag with DD but with DS I just chuck a few bits under the pram or in the pocket of the sling.

But with teeny little gorgeous newborns you need a few changes of clothes, lots of muslins and lots of wipes and nappies! It's so much fun looking through all the catalogues though! Thrilling times sweetie enjoy them!

And more chocolate advice.....put a few bars next to your bed and in the nappy change box for midnight changes and feeds ;) I used to bribe myself out of bed that way.

Now we co sleep but that's another very long boring story......

Withalittlesparkle Fri 21-Jun-13 14:24:27

Sweetie we've bought the Motorola one, its rather good, although mostly I've used it to spy on the cats haha! Men and their gadgets!!!

I had a very over full practical changing bag the first few weeks. It had -
Nappys, wipes and Nappy bags (in case you change her in the car it doesn't stink the car out), Couple of muslins, change of clothes for baby. That's about all she needed. For me I made sure I had spare maternity pads, nip pads, nip cream, couple of paracetamol and a bottle of water. That is while I am bfing. When I ff toddly boo there was no nip stuff and I took enough bottles/formula for whatever we were doing that day

As she is getting older I have just changed it to meet our needs.

SweetieTime Fri 21-Jun-13 17:03:59

I am loving the changing bag tips. I am sure mine will be full of crap like every other bag I own.

Munxx last night I discovered Kiddicare website and you can add things you spot onto a virtual list. OMG I wasted a couple of hours on there I can tell you. Do you have any suggestions of things I can make a note of that were good or useful for a new baby?

Those nappy boxes where do you get those from? I have seen them mentioned before but so far have not seen any in the shops.

I know I am going to end up with loads of stuff we don't use so I need as much advice as possible. Hope you all don't mind pointing me in the right direction.

Don't bother with a top and tail bowl, just use anything to put the water in if you're doing a top and tail, just make sure you wash their faces before their arses grin. And think about the season you're dressing for, I got K some vests and she has never worn them cos it's been too warm blush

Ooh and accept gifts/donations/hand me downs, you can always re donate to a charity shop if you don't need/use/want them.

I will let you know if I think of anything else smile

Sleeping bags. No faffing around with blankets and wondering if they are going to throw them off in the night.

We don't have a nappy box. All you need is a change mat of some description, nappies and a wipe of some sort. We change her on the floor in her bedroom and her wipes and nappies are in the wardrobe. I find it easier to change on the floor than up high so a changing table would have been no use to me. As they get older there is no chance of rolling off and hurting themselves too as they are already on the floor

Nappy box?? What's that then? Definitely a big yes to sleeping bags, K has just moved into hers, she was swaddled but started to kick out of that, the bags are amazing!!