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October 2013, anomaly scans, boy, girls and little surprises :-)

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Natalieand Sat 27-Apr-13 22:08:21

Welcome to thread number 7 (of many) of the October bus xxx

Natalieand Sat 27-Apr-13 22:11:32

Oooops I meant to type boys not boy in the title sorry to those ladies with little boys :-) my first ever attempt at creating a thread x

Haylebop12 Sat 27-Apr-13 22:15:15

Checking in!

Flyer747 Sat 27-Apr-13 22:21:35

Marking my place....V excited about the buggy I've seen, my goodness how my Saturday nights have changed!!

roofio87 Sat 27-Apr-13 22:22:10

thanks Natalie you never know,maybe we'll have some sort of freak occurance and only one person will have a boy!!wink

Natalieand Sat 27-Apr-13 22:24:21

Hehe that made me chuckle roofio don't we already have one boy confirmed?

Checking in smile

Umlauf Sat 27-Apr-13 22:38:52

Checking in, love the title! Thanks natalie

Shirehobbit Sat 27-Apr-13 22:47:42

I don't think this thread will last to my 20wk scan on the 22nd, judging on how quickly the last one filled grin

JellyCurls Sat 27-Apr-13 22:58:45

Found you all, checking in for the next leg of the journey x

Bronzemoth Sat 27-Apr-13 23:01:56

Yes I've got my boy bump confirmed. Just back from meeting friends and found out they are expecting to. I'm thrilled for them and so excited to have a pregnancy buddy offline and on a bus only one month behind.

Also thanks for the feedback the midwife appointment times. I now have a plan for dh's big 3-0 on Monday.

ananikifo Sat 27-Apr-13 23:04:44

My scan is on the 5th of June, and there's no way this thread will last till then! Thanks for the thread, Natalie!

I've signed up for Bounty and now they keep emailing me discount codes. I did order from vertbaudet this week and got some cute stuff with a huge discount. (Babygrows with bum flaps! So cute!) Since then they (vertbaudet) have sent me at least five different discount codes, plus they're having a huge sale. Then there's the asda sale and other offers I've had from places like mamas and papas. I'm starting to think that the reason baby stuff looks expensive is because all the companies just send out discounts all the time. I'm such a sucker that I need to constantly remind myself the discounts will still be there when I need them.

I think this month's baby budget is best spent on maternity clothes but they're so boring. hmm

Flyer747 Sat 27-Apr-13 23:06:35

Congrats Bronze xx

GTbaby Sat 27-Apr-13 23:47:04

Thanks for new thread!

My scan is at end of month as well.

Becoming a little concerned about sleeping arrangements for two babies. At 11 months LO will be too small to go into a bed but we don't have space for another cot. hmm

FYI asda and all supermarkets have baby events every few months. So buying nappies just yet isn't needed! Although I admit to buying some at 7 months (to get the free boots baby bag). However some of the bigger items can be one offs. I know last year a camera baby monitor was in the asda event but not the nxt one. Sign up to the groups so you know about events before hand as some things run out fast.
In dec toys r us had BOGOF (best deal I've seen on nappies n has never been repeated) on boxes of pampers new born nappies. Ran out by afternoon!
Also on nappy front. Kiddie care have a brand of nappies which they sell for £20 a box enough for a month. My SIL tried them recently n likes them, so I may be switching to those.

Can I offer one bit of advice if you are hoping to breast feed. - please do lots of research before hand. As much, if not more Research then you do into the birth! Find out n have a note of lll or any support groups phone numbers (in hospital in case the support is shit, based on personal experience), work out what problems you might have, boobs to big or to small. Big nipples, small nipples, flat inverted nipples. I really thought breast feeding is natural n it will happen.
I didn't buy steriliser, bottles or formula as I was convinced I didn't need them. This caused me lots of stress when leaving hospital n DH had to run around and get everything. Find out where your local sure start centres are and when their drop in feeding clinics are.
I really wish someone had said this to me last year as I feel if I was more informed I would have been more successful.

Right onto positive things grin
Who's having a baby shower!?

Someone did have a sexing scan tonight though did they not?

notsoold Sat 27-Apr-13 23:52:40

Marking my place....
I will have a baby shower as it is very big in my country and my friends are already talking about it! But nothing expensive on the list and loads of yummy food!

cherrycherry41 Sat 27-Apr-13 23:54:41

Just checking in.
Had a reallyyyy long phonecall with my best friend tonight- shes just got a BFP! Totally unexpected as she was on contraception but nature got the better of her! I reckon shes only 4/5 weeks making it an early 2014 baby smile
Shes shell-shocked but happy and excited nonetheless!

Smitten1981 Sat 27-Apr-13 23:55:41

Oooh, shiny new thread!

I'm back in from my night out. All my friends wanted to see 'the bump'. Quite pleased I lasted till 23:50 - whoop!

ananikifo Sun 28-Apr-13 00:03:00

Thanks for the advice, GT! I did have a look at the Asda event for anything really special and didn't see anything. I'm planning the use cloth nappies but with all the sales and discounts on disposables it'll be more of an ethical/environmental decision than a financial one.

I'm not planning on having a shower but isn't it something your friends throw for you, anyway? A few friends have hinted at it so who knows?

Hi ladies, marking my place. Got a stinking cold. Head ache, runny nose then blocked up etc sad. Can i take anything other than paracetamol as need relief!!!
H2b offered to sleep on sofa to let me suffer in peace in bed (as i am preg too) bless him. Can hear him snoring through the floor. Jealous as i cant lay down without my ears filling with snot.

My friend gave me some maternity clothes and they are all black confused

terrifiednewbie Sun 28-Apr-13 01:42:41

marking my place although think i've missed about 4 threads. Hope everyone is well. I'm absolutely shattered-middle of a night shift and trying to pack during the day (as we will essentially be homeless as of Tuesday as our new place still hasnt come through but landlord in our temporary rented flat needs us out by 1st May-arghhh!)

Will try to skim back through the posts i've missed. Unfortunately paracetamol is pretty much it when it comes to meds pinklady-hope you feel better soon though x

GTbaby Sun 28-Apr-13 02:10:39

Pink lady I had same last week.
GP advised over counter cough medicine n said strepcils are ok.
Make sure you keep fluid intake up as pregnancy can cause dehydration very quickly.
Try honey in warm water with lemon. If you don't want to take anything. And my mums tips are. Boil water in pan with cut up ginger. Then make tea with this water. Or my fav. Boil water with liquorice sticks. Makes a yummy sweet tea. Both meant to be good for sore throat. Best of all. Rest as much as you can or like me go stay with my DM for a few days so she can spoil me n look after my 6m old grin.

Iheartcrunchiebars Sun 28-Apr-13 06:43:51

Don't discount paracetamol pink lady it will make you feel a lot better.

Soupqueen Sun 28-Apr-13 06:46:12


terrifiednewbie, hope you find something soon. What a worry.

I had a lovely evening with friends last night and was passed on a maternity dress for work and a breast feeding vest top. They also have a loft full of baby stuff they're going to dig out and give me, which is great. What isn't so great is that I've woken up feeling hungover. Think I might be getting that cold.

It's my first pregnancy yoga class this morning, really looking forward to it.

My "20" week scan is on the 16th when I'll be 18 weeks. They think there might be problems with the placenta so checking early, I'd much rather everything was fine and wait longer to be honest!

Have a lovely Sunday everyone.

HotSoupDumpling Sun 28-Apr-13 08:02:15

Marking place! Welcome Labrador, and thanks for the boob advice GT. Have taken note and will do a bit of research.

P.s. Atticus is a great name! Spartacus is HEE-Larious!

legallyblond Sun 28-Apr-13 08:05:45

Morning all. Checking in! Less than 2 weeks until 20 week scan on 10 May.... Starting to worry a bit... In my experience with (lots of!) friends with babies, this is the "big one" in my opinion where lots can be discovered to be wrong.... Eeek!

Trying not to think about "stuff" too much till after that. Obviously didn't think I'd need anything - thought i would use all DDs stuff - but need new "twin" things like a pushchair....

Morning all, thanks for the new thread Natalie. It was me who went for the scan yesterday - we have another girl on the thread! Had to stop myself referring to the hamburger HA HA. Quite a suprise, have a ds and was sure this was another boy. Ds has named her do Rosie, which I quite like, but dp not keen. We are toying with Emilia. Measurements all good, bpm 160 - mayb we there is some truth in the old wives tale 

Oh and baby shower, best friend is insisting on throwing one. Had nearly managed to convince her it wasn't necessary, but now I have a different flavour she is back on it. Have agreed on the condition of no pink, and no expensive gifts

Shootingstarsandcomets Sun 28-Apr-13 08:50:07

Hi all just checking in quickly. Am in Paris and the only one awake after a night out last night- I came home at 1 the others who knows! This is probably the most expensive place in the world for baby stuff- 75e for little shoes!!!! Desperate to buy something for ds and for little bean but I just can't justify it at that price.
I have two massive spots on my chin- disgusting! Never had spots with ds. I feel minging and also bloated and windy! Really hope glowing starts soon!

ananikifo Sun 28-Apr-13 08:50:22

Congrats, bowlful! Emilia is very nice but I have to admit I love Rosie but DH isn't keen. Your DS has great taste!

Flyer747 Sun 28-Apr-13 09:03:22

Congratulations bowlful great news for you and your family x

Morning all. I am not sure liquorice is safe in pregnancy whoever recommended it for colds. Something about passing stress hormones onto the baby and interfering with the placenta? I can't quite remember but have been avoiding liquorice all sorts since ttc just in case (mmm I do like them!)

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 09:25:49

Congrats bowlfull! I like both names and funny that my DS also wants us to name the baby Rosie if it's a girl! Rosie or Charlotte - his clear requests.

I also worry about the scan legally. I'm a born worrier and until I'm told all is good, I will worry. Scan not until 4th June... :-(

GTbaby you are so right about breastfeeding. My NCT classes saved me here. I had one flat, practically inverted nipple. It was so hard with one boob at the beginning. I also forced midwives to help me! It was all worth it. But no, it's not always perfectly natural and straightforward.

Also windy and bloated and nursing Mother massive cold... This pregnancy is so much harder than the first one...

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 09:28:04

Meant another massive cold not Mother massive cold...

GTbaby Sun 28-Apr-13 09:30:22

Liquorice isn't safe! I never came across that before. Better look into it shock thanks orange.

And yes usually someone throws the baby shower. My sister keeps insisting I gave another. But I feel bad as I had one less then a year ago n don't want ppl buying more gifts.

I am sure if you eat it you would be fine gt. I am just über cautious about any possible risks.

Umlauf Sun 28-Apr-13 09:57:57

I have a Mother of a massive cold clapham! Very bad of me but I've thought sod it and had nasal spray, strepsils AND lemsip. Feel too terrible to feel guilty.

Congrats bowlful on a daughter! Emilia is beautiful and I LOVE Emily. Rosie gorgeous name too and all its long versions, ESP Rosalind. We find out on Friday!!!

Any other literature lovers? The RSC shop has amazing baby grows!

pinkbuttons Sun 28-Apr-13 10:21:54

Hi all, just checking in after another mad week and glad to see your all as chatty as ever and were on a new thread.

Congratulations bowlful very exciting and lovely that DS is excited too.

I also had no idea liqourice isnt safe and have been craving red liqourice for the past two weeks confused Cant see it on the nhs website but thank you for the heads up orange will have a look around.

2 more weeks to wait for 20 week scan on the 16th and were not going to buy anything till after then I think, even though am desperate to. Wont be having a baby shower here, have never known anyone to have one but sounds lovely.

I want to ask those of you with toddlers are you planning on getting a double buggy for October? DS will be 2.8 when bean arrives but worrying about not getting one because we walk everywhere (I dont drive) just not sure at what age children are able to walk long distances? Any advice greatly appreciated. Have been eyeing some up on ebay just incase but not sure if its worth it.

Hope you're all having lovely relaxing weekends xx

Thanks all, very exciting. Sorry to hear loads of you are feeling crap - I've now had 3 weeks illness free, and am feeling pretty good at the moment. Going to try and enjoy these couple of months before I get massive. Am a short arse so by about 30 weeks there is no room left and rib cage fit to burst. What's everyone up to today?

LabradorMama Sun 28-Apr-13 10:29:52

Thank you for the welcomes grin it's so nice to know there are so many other ladies out there expecting babies at around the same time - that will give me something to hang onto whilst I'm in labour!
My '20wk' scan isn't until 12th June and we're not going to find out if we're having a boy or girl, I want DP to tell me at the time.
Anyone else up at 6.30am this morning making toast to feed sudden ravenous hunger?? Just me??

Haylebop12 Sun 28-Apr-13 10:37:11

Thank god I don't like liquorice anyway! Can I ask, what's the deal on prawns? I went out with work yesterday and had a tandoori mixed grill. So chicken, lamb and some prawns. Three people commented that I shouldn't be eating them. Now I don't stick to the rules too closely but thought prawns were ok?!

Wonderful news on a little girl bowlful dd has a dolly called Rosie and since I have an Amelia, them Emilia is beautiful too smile

Permanent cold here too! Not bad enough to require drugs though so I'm putting it down to the increases blood flow etc.

This week I have found out 4 people are pg. 3 from school who one of which I'm still really good friends with. And a girl at work whose midwife reckons she could be 5/6 months and only found out Monday! They found baby's hb and she has a scan Wednesday. Can't believe she could be a whole month ahead and I've known for months!

Dh had looked at my names and crossed out Maisie and Hannah. He has put 20% ect to Harriet and Lydia an he thinks they may possibly grow on him! Result (I think). he added amber and faith but faith really clashes with our surname. And also added jack onto the boys but the popularity is a serious put off. I have to be pleased though he's finally taking it seriously.

Has anyone got anything nice planned today? I'm cooking a dinner later for the parentals smile

cuillereasoupe Sun 28-Apr-13 10:50:03

I ate a ton of liquorice the day before yesterday and then had horrendous squits last night blush. Coincidence? You be the judge.

cuillereasoupe Sun 28-Apr-13 10:51:03

Oh and the plan for today is to go bra shopping.

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 11:14:22

hayle i've been told by my GP prawns are perfectly OK if cooked well. I actually read it on the NHS website too! and they are a great source of lean protein and omega 3. were the people who told you not to eat them ever pregnant? some people think all seafood is bad full stop but this is not the case. I actually checked with my GP as I don't like meat so prawns and fish are my main source of protein. He told me to avoid oysters, mussles and cockles - more potential for food poisoning.

it's a lovely sunny day in London so planning to drag myself out for a walk after the whole day spent on the sofa yesterday... energy levels today - zero

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 11:16:39

PS. I also have Lydia on my list hayle!

ananikifo Sun 28-Apr-13 11:48:35

I think there was once advice not to eat prawns because some of my coworkers assume they're banned and they had children in the nineties.

Shirehobbit Sun 28-Apr-13 11:49:54

Sorry to hear so many of you have colds. I had one last weekend (started Friday lunchtime, felt vaguely human again at 6pm Sunday - not impressed!) and it was horrible.

Don't know about anyone else, but it is as if my bump has 'sprouted' in the last couple of days. No hiding it now!

Congrats bowlfull another little girl smile

Im chilling having breakfast in bed just now and its nearly the afternoon shock

Hello ladies! I've not been around for a bit - dp and I completed on our new flat and have had last week off work trying to sort it (well, it turns out I'm fairly useless so it's been mostly him). It needs quite a bit of work - we've had an electrician round hammering the walls, I've been stripping wallpaper and cleaning, dp has been sugar soaping, keying and painting. But we are going to have have to move in while it's unfinished. At least it's much bigger than our old place, and got a garden.

I was getting very grumpy and anxious about not having any clothes that fit me, so dp sent me off to go shopping (I am not a happy shopper normally, and I'm a 5"4 hourglass size 18 so not easy to find clothes anyway) and I managed to spend £260 in mamas and papas at Stratford Westfield, so that was a triumph. I highly recommend them. They are very generous in their sizing for the chunkier lady - I could barely get into h&m size 20 jeans, but was between a 14 and 16 at mamas & papas. And they weren't too expensive.

Also we had the 16 week midwife appointment - there was a nice (older) student midwife who asked if we would be part of her caseload, which means she comes to all our appointments, attends the birth and aftercare - I'm very happy about the extra support! And we mentioned home birth, they were interested and will look more into it for our next appointment.

Hope you are all well x x

Shirehobbit Sun 28-Apr-13 13:37:29

Talking of maternity wear - I braved an ebay bundle (50 items) which has just arrived. Talk about bargainous - with delivery it came to about £75, but this lady and I clearly have very similar tastes/colour preferences and it's all in a fantastic condition. I only need to buy some work trousers, jeans and leggings and I'm more or less sorted.
I thought it was a bit of a risk, but I'm dead chuffed with my armchair shopping.

We just got back from carpet right having put down a deposit on getting whole house recarpetted. Eek! Been meaning to for ages as the previous owner had no underlay and really cheap, very stained carpets which I hate and wouldn't want to lay a baby on. It seems sensible to do before the baby comes but it is another dent into our dwindling savings even with big sale on.

I had a pregnancy meltdown in the car. I drove DHs car for the first time, stalled three times at a junction then panicked when a man beeped his horn at me so insisted we swapped places. DH was annoyed as really not a good place to stop and get out. I then cried all the way to the carpet shop. blush

Had a productive morning in the garden first. Sometimes not being able to sleep much anymore is a bonus as my weekends seem longer. Feel like I have had a busy day and still time to do my school work before an early night.

Just got a text to say my sister, bil and niece are coming to stay with us for a couple of weeks while they find a new house nearby. (We did offer!) Should give me a bit of an idea of what life with a small child is like!

cazboldy Sun 28-Apr-13 16:40:34

just checking in x smile

All my sqirums an flutters have stopped for a few days, I know I should not worry but I am sad

cazboldy Sun 28-Apr-13 18:11:02

falcon have you been busy? I only notice mine when i lay still just as i get into bed.

Been in bed all day today have been busy last 2 days and all my joints are aching, hope I feel her later xx

cazboldy Sun 28-Apr-13 18:26:39

sure u will xxx

pinkbuttons Sun 28-Apr-13 19:40:46

Sure all is ok falcon I seem to feel it more on certain days and then not for couple of days, have assumed it depends on their position. Hope your feeling better soon xx

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 20:24:46

Hi girls. Another day spent on the sofa. Can pretty much write off this weekend... a combination of terrible nausea, muscle aches and shivers, incredible weakness, coughing and lost voice. Confusing as none of these many symptoms belong together! Not sure how I will manage to drag myself to work tomorrow...

sorry for the moan but honestly feeling terrible and wish I could put this pregnancy on pause just for one day. Shall I go to GP with these symptoms or do you think it's just a nasty virus I have to endure?

ananikifo Sun 28-Apr-13 20:36:48

I'm do sorry you feel so bad, claphammama! Your symptoms found like the kind of thing where a GP would counsel you on home remedies and preventing dehydration. I went to the doctor with the flu about a month ago and felt a bit silly because they didn't do anything. It felt like the worst illness I've ever had but in retrospect I can see their point.

It does however sound like you should stay home tomorrow if you can, and take care of yourself.

Umlauf Sun 28-Apr-13 20:39:28

Hi clapham. Sorry to hear you're still feeling rough. Have you tried taking anything? I'm the same, it started Friday morning and has been a tiny bit better today! I can't take the off work though so its better on a weekend. I'm dreading tomorrow as if I can't work ill have to take all the lessons again or lose pay as my boss will have to give the students their money back.

I'd say to go to the GP, if only to see what you can/can't take. You need relief!!!

Natalieand Sun 28-Apr-13 20:41:13

claphammama sounds to me like something your going to have to endure :-( just try and take paracetamol every 4 hours keep fluids up and hope it passes sooner rather than later. If its still persisting in a few days you could see your gp then possibly?

I'm a happy girly tonight for two reasons
1. I'm almost 100% I felt a kick/punch of some kind today low down just once though I'm 15+6 with dc2
2. I finally made it to my upgrade date on phone contract and currently typing this off my shiny new iPhone 5 :-)

Is anyone having anatomy scans or private gender scans this week? Xx

falcon perhaps have an ice cold drink and lay down for a bit sometimes that can encourage movements but then they do say not to expect to feel them regularly until like 24 weeks or so its quite possibly baby has turnt to face the opposite way or something? What's your midwife like? If she's nice/understanding would she perhaps mind squeezing u on to try and listen on for the heartbeat if it will put your mind at rest?

Claphammama Sun 28-Apr-13 20:49:38

Thanks for your support preggo friends! Taking only paracetamol for aches and shivers. And drinking lots of ginger and lemon tea for nausea.

DP happy I've lost my voice. He shall pay for these comments when my energy returns!

Exciting about the first kicks Natalie! such a special moment

JellyCurls Sun 28-Apr-13 21:11:15

Hope all you sick ladies feel better soon. Sickness has returned today but think its to do with eating too much home baking and not to do with pregnancy.

18 wks tomorrow and still no movements to report and only got a bump when I relax tummy muscles, when I lie down there is nothing there. Can anyone tell me if they can feel anything if they lie down? I refuse to stress but sometimes it can't be helped

ananikifo Sun 28-Apr-13 21:51:01

Jelly curls I'm only 14+5 but my little bump disappears when I lie down, too. When I lie down and press my lower abdomen/pelvis I do feel something but it could well be my bladder.

roxvox Sun 28-Apr-13 22:34:23

Sorry to hear that so many of you are feeling rough. I kind of need to join you because, whilst I don't have a cold, I have had horrific headaches of late and have only been out of bed to eat food today.

JellyCurls I am 17w 5d tomorrow and haven't felt any movements yet either. This evening is the first time that I have noticed a bump, but I can almost breathe it in with a bit of effort (not that I want to)... When I lie down it disappears and I just look a bit fat! I am still fitting in normal clothes.

I cannot wait to feel kicks and punches! Congrats to those who already can smile

roxvox Sun 28-Apr-13 22:44:22

jellycurls what sort of body shape are you (if you don't mind me asking)? I am 6ft and whilst I wouldn't class myself as 'slim', I am not overweight. Loads of people have told me that they think it will be a while before I get any sort of bump because of my height, whereas other body shapes may notice their bumps sooner/get bigger bumps overall. I am not sure how much truth their is in it, but interesting that at least 3 or 4 different people have said the same thing to me.

roxvox Sun 28-Apr-13 22:54:53

Oh, and one more thing, just make sure I completely occupy this thread!

Thank you to those who offered me advice regarding sleeping on your back in the last thread. I too been trying to sleep on my left side. In fact I bought a dream genii on eBay (it has a padded bit that goes behind you to stop you rolling over) but I often wake up with the pillow out of bed, and me flat on my back. Good to know I've still got a while to get used to it though, thank you for all of the advice!

SeriousStuff Sun 28-Apr-13 23:46:02

anan and jelly I've noticed that in bed in the morning, if I tilt my pelvis up, my stomach is a large cone shape! But as soon as I go to the toilet it goes away again.

For the last few months, my stomach has been really warm but tonight, it feels freezing to the touch. Anyone else noticed this? I always liked it feeling warm, as it felt like all my energy was focused on that area, but now it's cold, I'm a bit worried...

GTbaby Mon 29-Apr-13 00:00:01

Wrt sleeping on bk. I've always slept on my side. But last pregnancy, particularly towards end could only get comfy on back! N would often wake up on my back despite pillows. Someone on that antenatal thread did mention u always have scans on ur bk. women if being monitored often spend hours in there bk. due to epidural I spent over 14 hours on my bk. so can't be that bad for odd hours sleep on ur bk. wink

My head ach is killer today. Maybe it's a 17 wk thing? My cold isn't helping.

In terms of bump. I didn't really notice mine till after 20 was last time. I'm a lil thick around the middle wink n often it looked bigger/smaller and it will happen until the baby is out.

Tip for ur wish lists. Grow bags are brilliant. However do not buy full price! eBay or tkmax! Just realised I'm on my 4th one in 6months at full price that would have cost £120! And I only have one per size. So if I had multiples Incase of night time accidents and leaks it would be very expensive.

Ps sry if my random tips r patronising or annoying blush

Just giving my lil gorgeous baby his last feed of the night so I can hit the sack in peace. DH has agreed to do the 7am feed grin

Night night

JellyCurls Mon 29-Apr-13 06:25:16

Thanks ladies, you'd think I would know all this with me being on dc3 but was showing more last time hence the stressing.

roxvox I am 5'11" so a tall bird like yourself with a "normal" build. Went out on sat night with own jeans on but my bust has grown so much my own tops don't really fit. I remember from last time my bump used to vanish sometimes and midwife told me its cause I had more room for baby between pelvis and rib cage. Hey ho, its Monday morning again so better get to work.

Have a good day everyone

Natalieand Mon 29-Apr-13 07:00:04

Wrt gro bags Asda tesco etc do their own gro bags and they are around £10 each which I used with dd and they were perfect too. Xx

roofio87 Mon 29-Apr-13 07:03:39

Gtbaby I love all your tips and everyone else's. getting advice from those of you who've done this all before is amazing!!grin

PseudoBadger Mon 29-Apr-13 07:06:40

Checking in as I missed the whole last thread.... grin

Iheartcrunchiebars Mon 29-Apr-13 07:19:21

Morning ladies! Hooray it's sunny! I start a new job today and am super scared. Wish me luck. The contract is till December so not really sure how that works pregnancy wise. They have said I can work from home as my pregnancy progresses which is brilliant, now just got to find a smart (and comfy) outfit!

Have a good day everyone.

Soupqueen Mon 29-Apr-13 07:23:05

crunchie, vey best of luck, you'll be great.

I need luck today too, it's the amnio this afternoon. Barely slept last night. First step is to get it out of the way and then worry about the results!

Natalieand Mon 29-Apr-13 07:25:38

Best of luck today soupqueen will be thinking of u xxx

Good luck crunchier.

Crunchie even grrr auto correct.

And good luck soup. Will be thinking of you.

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 07:37:59

jelly and rovox I'm just under 5'2" with a disproportionately short torso, so that would make sense that I have a bump at 16wks?

Good luck soup and crunchie

My 16wk appointment this afternoon. I do hope she has a doppler.

Smitten1981 Mon 29-Apr-13 10:01:13

Soupqueen try not to worry too much, it will be fine and then it's over and done with.

Good luck with the new job crunchy.

After boasting of only gaining 1lb last week I weighed myself this morning and have whacked 5lbs on in a week!!! How can this be? I feel like a whale now - bleurgh.

Seems my body has finally caught up with the pregnancy, starting to feel it now!

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 10:02:53

good luck soup and crunchie! Let us know how it goes today!

roxvox Mon 29-Apr-13 10:05:58

Good luck today Soup, Crunchie and ShireHobbit!

That could explain it, ShireHobbit, as the people who have mentioned it to me have always referred to my height, so perhaps shorter people show sooner/show more because of their being less space (like JellyCurls said). I woke up this morning and the 'bump' that I felt was coming on last night appears to have disappeared again! Must've been bloat or something blush

Smitten I weigh myself every Saturday morning, and up until this Saturday my weight hadn't changed, but this time I had put on 3lbs which shocked me a bit, but I guess that if I didn't put any weight on up until now then maybe my body is now making up for it?!

2 weeks tomorrow until my 20 week scan. It can't come soon enough!


Good luck soupqueen and crunchie

I called Maternity triage this morning who said not to worry re movements but she said have something really sugary and see if you get a movement I literally just got one typing this. I will still get the consultant to check tomorrow when i get my bloods done.

My Bump can look huge and then non existent when i lay down and i am 18+2 and im 5'7 but I think i have got used to my shape now and possibly dont notice it as much as others, like gaining or losing weight, just a thought??

Umlauf Mon 29-Apr-13 10:40:22

Good luck today soup, crunchie and shirehobbit! Make sure you ask for one if she doesn't offer shirehobbit, no harm in asking.

Does anyone know how much of your midwife you realistically see? Only mine is awful and I want to change to the other one at the practise, but not speaking excellent Spanish its a massive kerfuffle if its only a few appointments, iykwim. I know another lady who had the same one, complained and changed, but she was Spanish so much easier for her. I can handle a few appointments, but if she's going to be there in the hospital and judging me for months afterwards I'm not sure i want to continue with her...

4 days until the big pink/blue reveal! So excited! I'm trying to keep baby stuff off Facebook so here is my only excitement outlet. I was a bit hurt that our Facebook announcement only got 20 something comments and so I am assuming people aren't interested as we are one of the first to have a baby, so don't want to go on about it!

How's the cold today clapham?

Flyer747 Mon 29-Apr-13 10:47:30

Good luck today Soup and crunchie...xx

Warlin Mon 29-Apr-13 11:10:24

Wow another new thread...I look away for a few days and you've talked your way into another thread!

DS has a V&D bug so my weekend has been mostly washing, cleaning up and cuddling sad He has now given it to my mum who is minding him today which isn't good. Praying I don't get it.

Is anyone else getting very sharp pains in the stomach/ abdoman area? I remember getting streching pains last times but these seem to be very sudden and more painful. It may be because I am carrying around DS a lot who is heavy but I'm starting to get a little concerned.

legallyblond Mon 29-Apr-13 11:11:08

I have a really proper big bump! I'm 18+3... But I suppose there is two of everything in there (they each have their own placenta etc).... TBH, it is nice and "neat" - def a smart little bump and no plump! Only felt a could of tiny movements so far and nothing regular... With DD I didn't feel her until 26 weeks, but I had an anterior placenta. I don't think it's time to worry yet....

When is MoN's amnio?

Soup - good luck for yours x x

Natalieand Mon 29-Apr-13 11:18:10

legally if I remember correctly MoN amnio is tommorow x

legallyblond Mon 29-Apr-13 11:23:39

Warlin - I've not had pains (I did have them c early - around 8 weeks). I do get a sharp twinge if I get up quickly from lying down. I expect it's all totally normal but you could always call your midwife? The reassurance is nice!

cazboldy Mon 29-Apr-13 11:32:51

thinking of you today Soup

and good luck also to crunchie and shirehobbit

Warlin - 2 of mine had that last week, and i was really worried about getting it too - so far so good touch wood, but everytime i feel i bit icky i think "oh no - here it comes" but not so far!....

Flyer747 Mon 29-Apr-13 11:37:25

Warlin, yes I've had pains in fact got them now as I type! It's uncomfortable....I have a midwife appoint tomorrow so gonna ask her...how far are you? I'm 16+1

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 11:40:54

Falcon.......I had 2 days when I didn't feel any movement and was starting to feel upset. On day 3 I had a slow day at home and that evening felt little squirms again. I hope you start feeling them again....I drank lots of sweet juice and ate some biscuits and jelly sweets. Poor baby had a sugar overload!

Good luck soup and crunchie

Smitten.......I put on 3lb in the first 15 weeks and over the last week have out on another 2. I don't want a weight gain of 2lb a week!

roxvox Mon 29-Apr-13 11:49:21

Bit of a random one for those looking to buy some baby wipes (in bulk) already; Boots baby wipes are selling at £7.00 (normally £12.99) for 12 packs of 64 wipes - Link

And if you wanted to be like that lady in the Asda advert (surrounded by packs of wipes) then buy 9 packs of 12 (108 packs in total) and use discount code BABY15 for £15 off. So you'll get 108 packs for £48 delivered (about 44p a pack).

Got a good few movements after eating a choc biscuit and half a bottle of irn bru wickedgirl sugar overload must do it hehe

roxvox have images of you surrounded by wipes smile good deals though and you will get your 10 points in the pound at boots too xx

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 12:27:29

Thanks for asking umlauf! Felt slightly better this morning so dragged myself to the office although I'm completely voiceless.

Don't get upset about the number of likes you had on Facebook! As you say, you are really young and most people probably don't relate to it just yet. I bet you would have 50 if you posted a photo from a crazy drunken party :-) People go through stages. I have the same in my office. I work for a very young and ambitious company - most people are in late 20s, early / mid 30s and don't have children yet, focusing on their careers. I'm really friendly with most of them, we go for lunch every day, and can laugh and talk about anything but noone asks me how I feel, if I'm getting ready for the baby, if I want to find out what sex it is etc... sometimes I find it upsetting and, when I fee sick, wish someone asked me how I was. But I know it's because they just don't get it yet. Your friends are probably in the same place. They will change soon trust me!

On the bump front, I'm 5'4'' and size 8, plus it's my DC2 so I have a definite bump that doesn't disappear at any time! The baby has nowhere to hide I guess :-)I can just about hide it depending on the clothes although not trying anymore.

I'm only 14+6 today so can't feel any movements yet. Can't wait though :-)

cherrycherry41 Mon 29-Apr-13 12:32:52

You can never have enough wipes!!
Go easy on nappies though as you dont know how big/small your baby will be!

Good luck soup thanks

To those gaining weight- I believe the little ones have a growth spurt in weeks 16-18 so i really would worry as long as you dont gain more than 4 stone by the end of this journey its all perfectly healthy weight gain! smile

Warlin Mon 29-Apr-13 13:13:18

flyer I'm 17.5 today. On the bump front, I am big. I def popped out earlier this time though I remember being big last time at this stage too. It is obvious but I was still surprised when the check out girl in M&S asked me was I having cravings when I bought a sandwich....! Cheeky cheeky!

Let me know what your midwife says...I think I will just wait and see if they get worse. I'm sure they are probably ligament, stretching pains.

Good luck today soup

And good luck tmw MoN

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 13:19:51

I'm waiting for my appointment - how nervous?! I wonder if this gets easier?

I've been very achy/sore in the last 48hrs or so too, so will feedback anything she says about that to me warlin

pinkbuttons Mon 29-Apr-13 13:49:24

Good Luck today soup thinking of you,
Hope appt. has gone well shire and your not so worried.
Good luck with your new job today crunchie sure you'll do great.

umlauf dont be disheartened by people liking or commenting on fb I always think its up to you what you want to share and if people dont like it then thats their problem. I had similar feelings when I was pregnant with DS about announcing it and what not, we were the first of our friends to have children and people just didnt get it. 3 years on and our friends from uni and school are having kids as well as our new friends that have been made through having DS and my newsfeed is forever made up of gorgeous babies and status' about funny things children have done (as well as photos of crazy drunken parties from some of them) My point is just because people didnt comment doesnt mean theyre not excited for you. Sorry for ramble smile

Definite bump here at 17+2, still not put on any weight but as DH said last night "well you certainly know its growing" its quite a nice reassurance, but also only 5" 6 and a size 8-10 normally. maybe the height thing has something in it.

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 14:08:46

I am 5'4 and normally a size 10. This is baby 4 and I clearly have no tummy muscles left at all as I have quite. A large baby bump already (I am 16+5). None of my others were small so I should have known that I would be big again and expecting a good sized baby at the end.

I'm glad the baby is moving again falcon......it is hard to not worry when you stop feeling those little wiggles isn't it?

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:10:10

What a waste of time and energy that appointment was; waited half an hour to be seen for 5 mins.
BP and urine only, when I asked about the doppler she was very dismissive, saying that she'd written on my notes it would only be BP and urine, they don't do dopplers. So disappointed.
She said she wouldn't look at the scan pic because you can't tell placenta position from a picture, so I'm no further forward in finding out if it's anterior or not so don't know if I should be feeling any flutters yet.
Oh and if my pain gets worse I should call triage.

I'm trying not to cry, but not really succeeding sad

roxvox Mon 29-Apr-13 14:15:03

Oh ShireHobbit that's rubbish. Sounds as though she was keen to process you as fast as possible. Do you think your appointment may have been right before her lunch break?! I had some pretty severe stomach cramps a couple of weeks ago (twice I struggled to get out of bed with them), and tried not to panic. When I next visited the MW she did a doppler and all was fine in there. I think mine came down to constipation (but the pain seemed worse than just that). Could your pain be anything like that?

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:18:25

Thanks, but I'm pretty ok digestion-wise at the moment (touches wood).

I just don't understand why some people are getting dopplers and some aren't. I really need some reassurance and there is no way we can afford another scan.

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 14:23:37

that's terrible shire, sounds like she just couldn't be bothered. They can be like this sometimes. Forgetting they are talking about our baby and it's a big deal for us!! I'm sure all will be good. Are you planning to ask for another appointment if you are worried? If yes, I would go for it and ask. As we talked before, sometimes NHS really has to be pushed to do their job properly!

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:31:23

But who would I call/go to?

I guess it's not like anything is pressingly wrong. The discomfort could just be growing pains.
I'm more cross at the doppler rudeness and the placenta confusion - I've just scoured my notes and there's no mention of it. Does anyone else have their placenta position recorded from the 12wk scan?
I just want to know so I don't become anxious if I can't feel movement.

HotSoupDumpling Mon 29-Apr-13 14:34:41

Good good good luck soupqueen. Hope it's gone we'll so far crunchie - it's a bit like the first day in a new school, isn't it!

Umlauf, don't worry at all re Fb response. If I got 20 comments on anything I'd feel like little miss popular!

Shire, if you feel worried then you could perhaps ring midwife services and explain the background and say it is making you feel very anxious and affecting your enjoyment of the pregnancy... Sometimes you'll get someone sympathetic who will help, e.g. A midwife who understands that a stressed mother also affects baby development and bonding. It has worked for us.

HotSoupDumpling Mon 29-Apr-13 14:35:30

Shire, not sure whether it's the same for you, but do you have a general midwife number to call on your pregnancy notes?

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 14:39:49

I guess you could call your surgery again, quote the symptoms and say you are very anxious so would love to see someone again as you can't sleep, eat, worry etc...? Perhaps not right now but in a week or so? I haven't used it yet myself but know from friends and colleagues that they react quite well to the whole anxiety / can't sleep pregnant woman talk.

I can't remember - are you on your first one shire? I'm on DC2 and told myself I won't worry if I don't feel movements until 18/19 weeks. I felt them around 18/19 weeks with DC1, know they tend to be earlier with DC2 but won't panic if it doesn't happen. I'm on holidays next week anyway so will have my 16 weeks appointment when I'm actually 17+2. Will try to force her to use doppler but no idea what they do here...

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 14:41:48

ps. and no, no idea where my placenta is!

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:43:09

I do, but they only have two people answering the phones. On the three occasions either I, or DH, have called, it's taken over 30 attempts and a minimum of three hours to get a response. And I don't think this warrants calling Triage, really.

I need to calm down a bit now - swinging from anxiety to righteous indignation is not good for the stress levels wink

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:45:54

Yes - it's my first clapham after a long time trying, can you tell?!

Maybe I need to accept I am amongst the well majority (at last) and that no flapping from midwives means they expect that everything is progressing as it should.

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 14:52:22

haha, yes I can tell now :-) how exciting!!

And yes, they are usually all over you when things are wrong. So try to take it as a good sign. And please don't worry if you don't feel any movements - far too early for DC1! As I said earlier, it was about 19 weeks for me and some of my friends didn't feel anything until 21 / 22 weeks. I remember they were surprised I felt them so early. So too early to worry! :-)

Soupqueen Mon 29-Apr-13 14:56:24

That's me home now, glad that's over!

MoN, if you're reading, it doesn't hurt. Uncomfortable but no more so than getting blood taken. I'm now on the sofa with my feet up and don't intend to move. Results by the end of the week, thats a phone call I'm not looking forward to receiving at work.

shire, that sounds like a terrible appointment!

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:57:33

Thanks lovely.
Going to take a calming walk, followed by a sneaky nap as work told me to take the whole afternoon. May as well make the most of it.
I hope your cold is getting better.

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 14:58:48

Fingers crossed soupqueen

cherrycherry41 Mon 29-Apr-13 15:01:48

soup fingers crossed for you xxx

Smitten1981 Mon 29-Apr-13 15:06:14

Soup can you take the time off work? I did that as I was a state when they called the first time.

The midwife that called with my results literally just went : "Hi, it's the screening midwife here. Your results are fine, nothing was picked up. I'll pop the letter in the post, bye."

I was like, "errr, no. Hang on a minute..." Make sure you ask any questions you might have a make a note of them to make sure you remember.

The woman was really rude and obviously just wanted to get me off the phone, it quite took me by surprise after all the worry that I'd had waiting for the results. When I said that I had been so worried she said "Why? Don't be silly" as if I was abnormal. Of course I was worried sick, stupid woman!

I think you need to be quite firm and bossy with these midwives as they forget that you're very concerned and you don't work with pregnany-related things day in day out.

Smitten1981 Mon 29-Apr-13 15:07:23

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you soup and for you tomorrow MoN. Let's hope for some good luck all round.

Soupqueen Mon 29-Apr-13 15:10:15

Unfortunately I can't take the time off work. My boss is lovely though and I'll be able to leave straight away if I need to.

I know what you mean about the midwives, I'll make sure to have thought of my questions in advance.

The good thing about going through this is that I saw the baby again, and the heartbeat. I'm 16weeks exactly and, as it's my first, no movements yet so it's good to know its still in there!

pinkbuttons Mon 29-Apr-13 15:30:37

Glad amnio wasnt too bad soup will be keeping my fingers crossed for your results.

shire I just wanted to add that I didnt feel movements with DS until I was 24 weeks! I had an anterior placenta but was also running around and didnt really know what I was feeling for. Sorry your appt. was so frustrating, my midwife was like that in my last pregnancy, have been lucky this time round but it seems wrong that its luck of the draw when they are in a caring profession for people at one of the most worrying time of their lives. Hope your walk helped xx

Slippysnow Mon 29-Apr-13 15:50:22

Wishing good results for everyone and exciting scans. I really want to post something about my pregnancy but things are going very smoothly (hope it stays that way) and no movements as of yet. 14+. 3 so still early days I don't even have a bump. Ah well can't complain. It seems so silly to be wishing my life away so am making a promise to myself to try and enjoy it and not let impatience dominate my life.

Thought of something I could share... We bought car seat new born and older baby maxi cosi cabriofix and pearl with a family fix base. Very very impressed with the easy installation it can be transferred to other cars, we had a major car crash in November (hit randomly by a drink driver) so we have really looked into this.

Also bought our Moses basket- we have a dog so are doing all we can to get him used to the changes. Any one else thinking about their dog and the baby?

Bought a gro egg so I'm more aware of room temp- I'm addicts to watching it now haha smile
Got a baby bjorn from eBay for £20 (used)

We also got bought a cotbed and matress

Can you tell this is my first smile

Soupqueen Mon 29-Apr-13 15:54:14

Great shopping slippysnow!

No dog here, but a very spoiled cat.

Natalieand Mon 29-Apr-13 16:03:17

Glad everything went smoothly soup fingers crossed for u, remind me what was your initial risk level?

slippy seeing you say all the things u brought is making excited! I can't buy anything until I no the gender (Wednesday at 12.20pm eeeeek)
With regards to pets an babies I don't have a dog but I have a cat and I'm seriously panicking my cat is gunna break into my bedroom at night and get in the babies basket cos sometimes now she manages to get in my room(how she does this is beyond me) lol

Currently sat on the sofa waiting for 30 minutes to pass (the time I have to leave the oven cleaner on before I get scrubbing boohoo!

Some good shopping there slippy grin.

Soup glad amnio was ok, keep those feet up and we will all be keeping our fingers crossed for you. Good luck also for tomorrow MoN.

Shire your appointment sounds crap - it makes me so cross that some midwives have no empathy at all. And I hated all of that FTM stuff - ok, maybe I haven't done this before, but thats a reason to be more supportive, not dismissive and make me feel stupid! Grr - really indignant on your behalf! Don't worry about the no movement though - as lots of other have said it unusual to feel at 16 weeks esp on 1st - I didn't feel anything until 20 weeks, and then wasn't definite movement until about 21/22 weeks, and that was with a posterior placenta. Have you thought about buying your own doppler (think they are about 30 quid), or if you have an iphone download the stethoscope? They can be hit and miss so can stress people out, but I used the iphone all through my last pregnancy and could normally pick up the HB.

Slippysnow Mon 29-Apr-13 16:13:51

Cats are amazingly crafty they slink in unnoticed you can hear our soppy dog a mile off. My best friend has a cat that loved beds and sleeping anywhere she wasn't meant to so was terrified of when the baby was born the cat sharing the cot and sleeping on their face!! But the cat has avoided the baby and cot so she's very impressed. The 6month baby on the other hand has started reaching and yanking the cat, gratitude for you

Haylebop12 Mon 29-Apr-13 16:29:19

shire I'm angry for you about your midwife. At my 16wk she did The Doppler and said if I was ever concerned and wanted the Doppler again she's here every Friday morning and its no problem. I'm not trying to rub it in I just want you to realise there are brilliant mws out where and if your not happy or receiving the care you should then something had to be done!

I'm 5'4" and a 14/16. Definite bump here at 16+1 and had a little spurt last two weeks.

No pets here! Also back at work now boo!

shire that sounds awful sad you are entitled to change mw if your not happy xxx

I need a bit of advice from others on here who are choosing to Formula Feed how have you coped with the docs and mw telling you your not giving the best if you don't breast feed. I find it really difficult as Ds was ff not through choice but is so happy and healthy sad

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 16:37:47

When I had my first, we had a Newfoundland (huge dog). When we bought dd home from hospital, we introduced them to each other and let the dog smell the baby. We obviously watched him but he just accepted the baby and there was never a problem. He was fine with numbers 2 and 3 as well. My 3rd loved the dog so much that if the dog was asleep on the floor, my ds would crawl over and fall asleep on the dogs tummy. It was very cute.

We now have 4 cats so I am a little worried that one of them may try and nap with the baby. We will all have to be extra vigilant about where the cats are.

Soup......will you find out the sex? We did when we had an amino with our 2nd (now a strapping lad of almost 13).

Shire.......does your drs surgery have a midwife there at all that you can try to visit? My drs has one visit every Wednesday afternoon. Maybe it's worth calling your drs surgery?

Do you all have your notes with you? At my booking in (12 weeks) I filled in some of the bits and left it with them for the blood results etc to be out into it. I done get it back until next week when I have my next checkup (18 weeks). It feels like I haven't seen a midwife in ages! I am hoping to hear the heart beat and finally pick up my notes!

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 16:39:41

Falcon.......tell them that your mental health is just as important as the physical health of the baby. Don't let any tell you how you should be feeding your own baby

roxvox Mon 29-Apr-13 16:41:35

Haylebop my MW said the exact same thing to me. She was completely willing in every way to reassure me should I have any concerns. Shire I know you said that they are a pain to get through to, but I think it might be worthwhile to challenge them and hopefully they will offer you a doppler.

Bowlfull I read your post and immediately downloaded a stethoscope app and ran to the office toilets to test it. Unfortunately there is a fan in the toilets that doesn't turn off and that was all it seemed to pick up! Will have a try later when I can get some peace and quiet at home. Is there any particular app you would recommend?

Slippy I am a bit jealous of your shopping spree! So far I have a huge list and loads of stuff I am watching on eBay... Roll on the 14th May when I will be ready to get shopping!

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 16:42:30

Millions of babies are formula fed and are very healthy.

I breast fed my 3 and am hoping to Breast feed this one too. My dd has allergies, my 2nd has always suffered with ear problems and my youngest is asthmatic.

So don't let any tell you that breast fed babies are healthier than formula fed babies!

Warlin Mon 29-Apr-13 16:42:34

Glad everything went well soup. Rest as much as you can.

Oh the midwife stories are making me angry on here now! grrr. Def be pushy shire, it's your pregnancy, your baby and don't let them treat you like a number to process.

slippy we have a black labrador who was my original baby so I really wanted her not to feel left out when ds1 was born.Your dog will know at this stage that you are pregnant....they can sense the hormone changes. My dog knew before I did this time as she got super clingy and kept lying with her head on my stomach. She also knew when my waters were about to break with ds1 as she stuck to me like glue and was acting really strangely when all of a sudden they went!

We just really included her from the start. DH brought a baby blanket home from the hospital with the scent of DS so when we got home she had a quick sniff and then walked off. I refused to push her away at any stage when she was showing an interest but for the most part she ignored him. Now she really likes ds but is having to get used to him stealing her toys! She is really gentle round him. Obviously I don't leave them alone but his wee face lights up when he sees her and she just acts like he's always been there. I have made a real effort to still walk her on my own and spend time with her though obviously it's hard as I don't have much time! DH has been a big help but I still feel guilty. Hoping dc2 will love her as much. Dogs are so good for children, as long as they are good natured ones!

Sorry for the ramble!

I managed to BF so didn't have to deal with that, so don't have any advice as such falcon, other then to tell them to bog off. I think you just have to be firm and confident about your decisions and then they get the message. I went to talk to HV about early weaning with DS, and they told me I couldn't, no solids until 6 months, proper lecture. I smiled nicely and said thanks for the advice, but I have researched and made my decision, so could they give me some inofrmaiton on how to do so safely

Thanks wickedgirl I will keep that in mind when i see the consultant tomorrow. XXX

posted too early...

and then they were fine and answered all my questions. It's entirely up to you how you look after your baby, and you are not harming your baby by FF

I think this is were the NHS lets us all down I know they have a duty to tow the company line and promote bf but lots cant do it and there is not a lot of info on how to do formula feeding safely either from them now 4 years ago when i had Ds there was a lot more and they did not seem as pushy as they can be now!
I will try to stand my ground as i have valid reasons HCP are not always understanding or as nice as you would expect xx

bowlfull you seem like a strong woman i need to harden up really grin

Roxvox I think it was this one but can't remember https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/istethoscope-pro/id322110006?mt=8.

Do it when you are home and laid down in the quiet. It can take a while to find, and also make sure you are getting the baby's and not your's or the placenta - should be very fast and sound like a galloping horse! Unfortunately neither me or DP now have an iphone and can't find one for blackberry or andriod sad.

Hmm, I think petulant may be a more suitable adjective. I get even more determined when I am told what to do. Downside is DS seems to have inherited this problem with authority - my mother keeps citing karma and laughing hmm

roxvox Mon 29-Apr-13 17:01:20

Thanks bowlfull I will check it out! And will try not to get too impatient if I cannot find it smile

My parents have 2 dogs (both soppy as anything golden retrievers who wouldn't harm a fly) and we will be staying with them for a couple of weeks after the birth (they live approximately 200 miles closer to my hospital of choice than we currently do!) so I too will need to work on getting the dogs used to the idea of a baby. The only thing I might be cautious of with them is that they sometimes paw to get attention, and I wouldn't want them trying to paw the baby (obviously I am not going to leave baby lying around on the floor for them to paw or anything stupid). I reckon they will love him/her when he/she is a toddler though! A person at their own height will be super exciting for them I reckon.

My mum said the same as soon as we found out bump was a girl. I t was oh well your getting all the trouble you caused your mum back then hmm

I have just agreed to buy a silver cross 3d second hand has anyone had one? I am a bit impulsive but its in good condition and only £45 could not pass it up really smile

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 17:06:14

Just wanted to say thanks again, everyone. Much calmer now, 2hr sleep nap helped.

I'll chat to DH tonight and monitor the discomfort. See how we are in a couple of days.

We have a dog too (had two, but my beloved greyhound passed away last May). I am a bit worried about our collie-x. He's a rescue, initially we fostered him for the RSPCA because they were desperate and thought he may needed to be put to sleep - we were his last chance at rehabilitation. He was such a damaged soul, rescued at 8kg (he's 21kg now) and unable to move. As he regained his muscle and strength, he became manic and stressed, which is when he came to us.
He's unrecognisable from that broken scrap of a thing we took in nearly two years ago. But he is very (possibly too) attached to us and still gets stressed by change. And he's noise sensitive.
You see my concerns....

I am 80% sure he'll be ok. We've worked so hard with him and he trusts us. I think he'll just glue himself to my ankle and follow me and DC everywhere, glad I'm around more! But we'll have to manage it carefully. Biggest thing is the calmer we are, the more settled he is, so if we're calm* and relaxed with the new arrival, he should hopefully take his lead from us.

We'll have to see how it goes, though. However, it's interesting that I would have been 99.99% sure the greyhound would have been fine - nothing phased her at all.

*today's episode is not a good example of me doing this grin

Ok i have not bought it grr rage she is now selling it to someone else who can pick it up tonight hate people like that sad

SeriousStuff Mon 29-Apr-13 17:15:17

slippy the dog is on my mind constantly! We got him as a rescue puppy, coupled with the fact he's a border collie, he has a few issues...he can be very anxious in unfamiliar situations, he hates new items turning up in the house and detests wheels! We're buying our pram early so he can get used to it...

Having said all this, he is a wonderfully loving and playful dog, and as long as he is allowed to adjust to the changes in his own time, he will be fine e.g. when new people come to the house, we always advise them to ignore him - he hates being greeted and smothered and will come to them in his own sweet time!

We don't spoil him but it really feels like he's the eldest child, waiting for a sibling to arrive and turn his life upside down. He really doesn't know what's coming...

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 17:15:49

hahaha - my mum said the same and my dad went a bit further saying "hopefully, it's another boy". How should one take this....???!! They did have two difficult girls though. Bless them.

Judging how I've been feeing the last few days though, I'm convinced this one is a girl. Only a woman could be so nasty to another woman :-) My little boy gave me nothing bad for the entire 9 months - making up for it now though... So adorable but a little monster.

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 17:18:21

ps. thanks for helping me get through this boring day at work! Chatting about bumps is definitely better than talking about "synergies", "objectives", "planning" or, the worst of them, "leveraging"... nausea is back

SeriousStuff Mon 29-Apr-13 17:19:36

shire just read your post - your dog sounds very similar to ours. I think collies are prone to anxiety anyway, but when they've had a bad start in life, it just exasperates it. We've had ours for nearly three years now (since he was 9 weeks) and he still won't go straight for his food bowl, for fear of being bullied away. He was definitely the runt, and had been kept in a shed for the first 8 weeks of his life.

The farmer had no use for him, and I assumed he'd managed to sell the other pups on as working dogs. He was just skin and bones when he came to us, so when you see him having a good day, chasing a ball or howling in excitement as he waits for me to put shoes on to take him for a walk, it feels it was all worth it.

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 17:25:41

serious there is lots in common, isn't there?
I swear the greyhound had a fundamental role in helping him get better - she was a zen master in the art of chilling and he tried to copy her wink
It's been so hard not to get another, especially with each disappointment ttc or mc, but one slightly damaged collie +baby will be easier to cope with than a whole pack of hounds.

takingachance Mon 29-Apr-13 17:30:20

Talking of pets - our dog was fine with dd1, but the cat was so funny! He didn't really bother when she was asleep, but if she was crying, he had to jump up and lie next to her - he just couldn't help himself. The interesting thing was that obviously when dd was tiny I had to keep putting him out of the room - plays havoc with trying to do nappy changes! But as she got older, maybe 6 months plus, the cat would soothe her by lying next to her (not allowed in the cot, but if getting her dressed or changing or something).

doobeedee Mon 29-Apr-13 17:34:06

I have a doppler. About £20 from Amazon and I love it. Some people advise not to get one as it might stress you out if you don't here heartbeat but I've found it every time I've tried since I got it at 11 weeks.

Shootingstarsandcomets Mon 29-Apr-13 17:45:56

My ds is 8 months and loves our big soppy dog. He kicks his little legs and squeals whenever the dog moves- also loves tail and ear pulling grin. The dog is incredibly good natured and seems not to mind at all, his payment is getting the scraps from the high chair!
I had my own home Doppler last time too- rented from anawiz- until I felt movements and then I sent it back. It was great for reassurance but there were a couple of times I couldn't find it and I did panic! Had to go away walk about and try later and then I did find it but I got quite stressed by it. I'm not getting one this time as am hoping ill feel movements sooner as its a second.

Iheartcrunchiebars Mon 29-Apr-13 17:54:06

Thanks everyone! Had a really great first day. People are really lovely and the job is brilliant. Bit frazzled now!

Slippysnow Mon 29-Apr-13 18:28:33

smile so pleased to hear such lovely dog/baby stories.

JethroTull Mon 29-Apr-13 19:02:54

Hello ladies. I know I don't post very much but I lurk read every day & wanted to say how great it is to have so many other stories that make me feel I'm not on my own. We got a boxer puppy last summer thinking we were never going to have a baby. Then we were suddenly able to afford to go for private IVF treatment & it worked grin. Ever since my BFP I've been worried about how I'll cope with a dog & a baby and reading your posts today has made me feel more confident so thanks!

I heard the heartbeat last week at my 16 week midwife appointment. It was amazing! It made me cry. I'm still amazed every day that I'm actually pregnant & I guess that's why I don't post much, I'm almost worried that talking about it will jinx something.

Thanks again.

Glad amnio and first day went well.
Shame you can't take time off work soup, do try to rest as much as you can.

A girl in the class told me today that my tummy is getting really big so I definitely have a noticeable bump even in the mornings now to an unbiased observer. Another drew a picture of me at home saying I was beautiful. Others were asking if and how the baby moved and if it hurt me. 5 year olds have been the most interested and nice. Several people at work told me I still look really slim today and this week, not that I was asking or saying anything about my size. I don't want to be told that as it isn't true and presumes I am getting upset about growing bigger. Or that they genuinely don't notice any changes. I am proud of my bump! Quite annoyed about all the unsolicited comments about what I am eating and whether I should change it several times a day from various people (I am vegetarian so I presume that is what they are asking about), how slim I am, where the fat is distributed and what they think I will look like over the next few weeks. People aren't asking how I feel and whether everything is going ok.

I weighed myself yesterday, I have continued to put on 1lb a week since 10 weeks so 9lb in total now at 15+1. Also measured myself, hips grown about 6 inches (maybe I am storing the baby there...), boobs about 5 inches, waist no longer exists, it is the same as under my boobs, and tummy I don't know what it was before but now very prominent.

ananikifo Mon 29-Apr-13 19:18:52

I just bought a baby heartbeat listening app for my iPhone, and I think I've spent the last half hour listening to my bowel sounds. blush No heartbeat though.

Umlauf Mon 29-Apr-13 19:23:26

Which one did you get ananifako ? I bought the babyscope app on ipad months ago and have NEVER had success with it. The reviews were really good, but then I got an email from them asking me to review it, and the email said 'some of our competitors leave bad reviews, saying our app doesn't work.' Not competitors!! Grr...

The dragon midwife allowed me all of 2 beats before she whipped the Doppler away.

But scan on Friday yay yay yay!

I am very intrigued by a Doppler app but not sure it would work on me yet. Investigating anyway!

ananikifo Mon 29-Apr-13 19:41:44

Umlauf I bought the stethoscope one that was linked to upthread and then I bought baby scope. It makes me sad to say this but I'm wondering if I have too much belly fat to get a good sound. I'll try again early in the morning when my body might be quieter, but I don't have much hope. I can barely find my own heartbeat in my chest.

Wickedgirl Mon 29-Apr-13 19:45:38

I have a Doppler but it can't pick up any baby sounds. I have given up as I can feel the baby moving anyway

ananikifo Mon 29-Apr-13 19:55:54

I'm not going to spend any more money in this as I hope to feel the baby in the next month and a growing bump (plus other symptoms) is enough of a sign that there's a growing baby there.

It would have been really nice to hear it tonight though.

Shirehobbit Mon 29-Apr-13 20:14:26

We've taken a similar decision ananakifo
I maybe a bit wrung out over it, but maybe it's time to believe the best rather than the worst.
3.5wks isn't that long to wait, is it? I mean I coped so well with the long wait for the 12wk scan hmm!!

Iheartcrunchiebars Mon 29-Apr-13 20:20:52

Hi Jethro that is lovely! Congratulations xxx

ananikifo Mon 29-Apr-13 20:37:51

Hi jethro I missed your post in a crosspost. Congrats!

Shirehobbit the wait for my next scan feels like forever! Mine is on 5 June.

Claphammama Mon 29-Apr-13 20:50:58

What a lovely post Jethro! Really happy for you. Hope you will be posting more often now :-)

I am trying not to be impatient and remember that our mums had nothing. No scans, no dopplers, no phone apps, no blood tests. My scan is on 4th June - feels like next year!

The lergy is back with full force now so I'm back on the sofa, DP had to cook and put DS to bed again

Sanjifair Mon 29-Apr-13 21:13:27

A tip for those worrying about cars getting in Moses baskets and cots, we bought a cat net that you put over the basket and protects the baby. We did this until DS moved to his own room, where we just kept the door shut. Couldn't shut our bedroom door though as they would have dug the carpet up!

I hadn't heard of those heart rate apps. Off to download now!

Sanjifair Mon 29-Apr-13 21:13:43

Cats! Not cars!!!

Sanjifair Mon 29-Apr-13 21:44:02

Just tried istethoscope app. Couldn't even get it to find my heart beat, let alone baby's! Oh well :-(

Hope you get some reassuring news soon Soup glad today wasn't too painful.

I tried the stethoscope app, heard my own heartbeat and then briefly one that sounded the same in my belly (must be placenta I guess) but no baby. Lots of bowel noises though hmm Trying not to panic, this is why I didn't buy a doppler! 16 wk app tomorrow, hope I hear it then...

SeriousStuff Mon 29-Apr-13 23:00:45

Congratulations Jethro! The whole process we're going through is pretty unbelievable isn't it, and just think, now you have a gorgeous boxer and a baby on the way. My DH is desperate for a boxer as a second dog...maybe we see how the baby thing pans out first!

CocktailSausage Mon 29-Apr-13 23:53:02

Marking my place. Wow! Thread 7 already. I can't keep up.

roofio87 Tue 30-Apr-13 04:48:42

damn it cocktailsausage its 5am and I can't sleep and after checking on here all I want is cocktail sausages and ketchup!!! wink

pinkbuttons Tue 30-Apr-13 07:00:09

haha roofio that made me laugh. i should have come on at 5 o clock when I was up for the third time for a wee. couldve done with a smile then.smile
Morning everyone, Good luck to everyone with appts today.

only 1 more sleep till your gender scan natalie is it wrong Im excited for you grin

think ive got a bladder infection or something. have been having niggly pains the last few days much worse when I need to wee and after I do. and when I go dont think im emptying properly (sorry tmi) because Im feeling desperate within a minute again. this is more than just hormones right? going to call GP today but wanted to check that it wasnt normal first?

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 07:03:28

Haha pink be as excited as you want I no I am :-)

I've got the challenge on my hand of buying somewhere kind of allergy free sun cream. I sun creamed dd face yesterday and ever since her face is blotchy as anything and poor little darling can't stop scratching so hopefully that will pass my time lol

Best of luck today MoN u are in my thoughts x

ananikifo Tue 30-Apr-13 07:03:34

Pink buttons it could be a uti so it's best to get checked out. Pregnant women are at higher risk. It's normal to go more often when you're pregnant but if it suddenly gets worse like you describe I think I would just go to the GP to be safe.

Check it out, pink.
Good luck today MoN.

Soupqueen Tue 30-Apr-13 07:06:03

MoN, keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you today.

natalie, my risk was 1 in 57. wickedgirl, we've said no to finding out the sex, but we can change our mind at any point which we may well do!

sanjifair, where did you get the cat net? That sounds like the solution for us. I love the idea of cars trying to get in! grin

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 07:10:17

soupqueen I googled the nets last night mothercare sell them for £5.99
Bargain :-) thanks for the tip sanji

LostMySocks Tue 30-Apr-13 07:14:25

Shire saw my midwife yesterday. I've had a pain on and off at the side Iy tummy. She says it's normal and is just ligaments stretching and only to worry if it's very sharp or bleeding. Mind you I think I'm lucky. See her at the local children's centre and she has plenty of time to chat. Heard the heart beat but not for long as the baby moved so actually quite hard to find so we shouldn't worry if we cant find them ourselves

Flyer747 Tue 30-Apr-13 07:18:22

Natalie my sister suffers bad allergic reaction to sun cream. We go on holiday together all the time and she swears by piz buin allergy cream, they even do one especially for the face!

Good luck today mon...
I have my 16 week check up today.

JellyCurls Tue 30-Apr-13 07:27:58

Good luck with appointments today ladies.

MoN keeping everything crossed for you, like soup says amnio is not sore more like a scratch but do rest afterwards.

soup I hope you are well after your amnio yesterday and managing to keep occupied x

Good luck with your appointment mon xxxxx

Ds goes away for a weeks holiday today with my mum and dad I am going miss him so so much!!

HotSoupDumpling Tue 30-Apr-13 08:05:39

Good luck MoN

Soupqueen, hope you are taking it easy.

Lost, that's v reassuring. I was going to mention to my midwife today that I also have been feeling stretchy pains in my stomach side/front muscles when I use them. Seriously it felt like they were just stretching apart and gong loose! Ugh.

Pink, like the girls say, it's almost certainly a UtI. Until you get your hands on the right antibiotics, the best thing to do apparently, counter-intuitively, is actually to drink a lot and go to the toilet whenever you feel the need. Don't try to hold it in. (This comes from someone who has had a LOT over the ears!)

pinkbuttons Tue 30-Apr-13 08:05:49

Thanks ladies will check it out.

Thinking if you today MoN, hooe all goes well.

natalie my DS has sensitive skin too and had a reaction to suncream while we were away last month. have had to get him specific one for childrens sensitive skin but there was lots of choice at boots. we had to avoid any with colouring in it like the blue ones as it seemed to be that made it much worse.

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 08:06:34

Morning all! Marking my 15 weeks milestone today with another day off sick. Feeling guilty as always when I have to take a day off but going to the office yesterday voiceless and feeling rubbish was pretty pointless. Feel like I've been I'll for weeks now...

MoN thinking about you today!

soup hope this waiting is not too tough!

By the way, anyone else have been having vivid weird dreams? Is it a pregnancy thing or just my own messed up brain? :-)

Umlauf Tue 30-Apr-13 08:18:36

Thinking of you mon when do amnio results come in? Hope its not too long a wait.

I have the stretchy pains too, especially after a cough or sneeze. I'm not worried..

Clapham sorry you're still feeling rubbish. I'm feeling a lot better but dreading my 12 hour day today. Thank god its a bank holiday tomorrow so I can glue myself to the sofa!

terrifiednewbie Tue 30-Apr-13 08:22:10

just a quick note to say good luck with the amnios MoN and soup (just flicked through and realised youve had yours already soup).

And wave hi to everyone!

Haylebop12 Tue 30-Apr-13 08:52:22

clap yes strange dreams... Dd(4) won £6m on the lottery. We must have given her a £1 to put on a lucky dip. Dh wouldn't let her claim it as she's too young. When I finally talked him round I suggested we buy a house as we rent and he said no its her money. What 4yo needs £6m!!! I was fuming. So we carried on living in a small two bed house with two children!

Good luck today MoN

Not in work until 1pm so just dropped dd at school and come home for toast and marmite grin!

Slippysnow Tue 30-Apr-13 08:57:01

Good luck mon.
natalie try simple sun cream they do a kids range.
Re urine infections or possible ones. I read advice that during pregnancy you should lean forward whilst weeping as it helps to empty your bladder smile- don't know whether a big bump will get in the way of this but until it does worth a try.
Any one having scans today?

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 09:11:22

Good luck today MoN.

Clapham - yes to the vivid dreams. I had my first baby-related anxiety dream last night that I'd had it and was asleep, then woke up and realised it hadn't cried all night and I hadn't fed it at all so tried to shove some baby food in it's mouth and slapped it on the back.


roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 09:23:28

Clapham I have been having very vivid and bizarre dreams. I think it's why I am always so tired; because my dreams are so active!

Haylebop I am feeling ridiculously jealous of you right now. How much I would like to be at home eating Marmite on toast!

SlippySnow whilst I haven't read that about leaning forward to empty your bladder, it is something that I have noticed that if I do then I tend to wee a little bit more out!

I too had no luck with the doppler app--s--, so am kind of relieved that I am not the only one because I know not to let it concern me now.

It's been 2 weeks since my MW did the doppler, and it is 2 weeks until my 20 week scan. I am seriously tempted to ask the midwife for another doppler this week (she did say to just text if I had any concerns and she would fit me in), but I don't really have any reason to be concerned, so I shouldn't do it really. 2 weeks isn't really that long to wait so I just need to man up and be patient!

Soup I hope you are feeling ok today.

MoN I know you haven't been on in a while, but we are all thinking of you today! Best of luck.

Haylebop12 Tue 30-Apr-13 09:39:03

rox I keep trying to find ways of getting it into other food. Nice of steak! I've had two rounds so far and contemplating another couple of rounds of toast grin don't be jel, I'm at work at 1pm :-( at least I got 3 days off then!

Haylebop12 Tue 30-Apr-13 09:39:51

On* steak!

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 09:42:17

Oh, haylebop, have you ever tried Marmite on banana? So good. I buy the squeezy Marmite and squeeze a little dap on each bite of banana. Marmity and one of your five-a-day wink

Warlin Tue 30-Apr-13 09:42:55

MoN good luck today, fingers crossed for you.

shire and serious our dog is a nervous dog too but at the start the only real difference she noticed was that I was home all day! Its not as if a toddler turns up and newborns sleep most of the time so the dogs have plenty of time to get used to the smells etc before they start being pulled and grabbed! Dog psychologists say that if you have a strong bond with your dog, the dog will see that you love the baby and will love it too. I think as long as they still get their walks and one to one attention they are fine. But yes, best to get used to the wheels!

I have had such a stressful morning. DS still has V&D and we woke this morning so poo all over his bed. He then threw up his entire bottle over me, our bed and my newly washed hair...grr....so had to go back into the shower, strip the bed, get the washing machine on and still get into work for 8 shock

Then to add to my stress this morning I noticed some brown staining.....trying not to overly stress as it's not red but I have had some mild cramps. Google seems to mention cervical erosion (harmless) or DTD (we did it last night for the first time in over a week...sorry tmi!) so I'm trying not to panic. It's making me feel a bit uneasy though. Going to just keep an eye on it and phone the mw if it gets worse. My mw isn't great and I predict she will just fob me off so I'm not rushing to make the call. Anyone else had this?

soup hope you are getting lots of rest and coping with the wait

favellio Tue 30-Apr-13 09:47:05

Hi everyone,
Just marking my place.
Still in Italy, until Friday. Having an amazing time. Weather is glorious.
I'm very proud of myself after yesterday. It was over 30'c and I walked 3km from hotel to train station, sat on a hot, crowded dirty train for an hour, walked for 2hrs around the ruins of Herculaneum, then Walked up to the crater of mount Versuvious (which was 2km of very steep, gravel terrain!), then walked back down, back on train and walked back to hotel.
Glad I done it but feel like death today. I'm 29, 16w5d and have hypermobilty syndrome, effecting the joints, mainly in my lower back, hips and pelvis. Looks like I'm a likely candidate for SPD :-(

Had a brief catch up of the end of last thread/beginning of this one. Loving the advice of baby items coz I'm clueless!! I have a few items of maternity wear from H&M and mothercare, which is a good job coz my bump seems to have shot out since being in Italy (must be the olive oil!)

I might use the wifi to order some baby bits while I'm here in the bar :-) 16wk check up on 8th may (even though I'll be 18wks) and 20wk scan on 24th May. Baby is fluttering away right now, so must know I'm talking about him or her smile

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 10:06:00

Warlin I had some spotting a couple of weeks ago (on 2 seperate occasions) and when I asked the midwife she said that it was nothing to worry about, brown is old blood, I should only be concerned if it is red etc etc. I had been having some really bad stomach cramps as a result of constipation and she said that that was most probably the cause, but not to worry. She did also say that inserting anything could loosen the old blood (i.e. an internal examination or DTD etc).

favellio sounds as though you are having a lovely time! I am not sure I could have done all of that yesterday, so good on you! Sorry to hear you're a candidate for SPD though.

We've just got through our Down's Syndrome risk and it's 1 in 785. I know that's low risk, but is it good? I find it really frustrating that they don't do the nuchal fold here (our risk is based solely on 2 blood samples).

Wickedgirl Tue 30-Apr-13 10:41:53

Good luck for today mon.......make sure you get plenty of rest

Soup....how long until you hear back from them with your results?

I hope everything is well for both of you. It is a very emotional time, I cried a lot after my amnio with DS.

Feel bad that no one can find the heartbeat with the iphone app - it worked really well for me last time (and am not skinny), but can't remember when I started using it, so maybe it's too early? Anyway, sorry for getting people's hopes up blush.

Jealous of all of you with dogs! Those with cats, we have two and they never went anywhere near baby when he was in moses basket - although they did sleep in it when he wasn't in it hmm. Also, my cats did not like children - weren't viscous with them, just used to hide or disappear outside whenever we had children around. Was a bit worried how they would react, but when we brought DS home, we put him on the floor in his car seat, they went and had a sniff, and then just accepted him. I think they must know when a child is yours, maybe the smell or something.

Good luck today MoN.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 11:15:27

Don't feel bad about the apps bowlfull! It was worth a try, but I didn't really expect to find anything. I might have another go later, but I would be quite (pleasantly) surprised if my phone could pick up the heartbeat of a tiny baby buried somewhere deep in my tummy!

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 11:21:52

I am still doing my window shopping in my work cough break cough and I was wondering if anyone had any sense of time for how long a moses basket will be big enough for baby? I appreciate it changes depending on your baby's size, but would roughly 6 months be about right in your experiences?

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 11:32:38

Three months more like. And my DS was 6.8 when he was born so not big at all. Really not worth buying if you can borrow for 3 months from a friend. This is what my friends told me and really happy I didn't have to get it. Saying this, had to give it back as she had another baby!

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 11:43:47

I was having this dissussion yesterday with DH. Think we're not going to get a moses basket and buy a Stokke Sleepi mini for the bedroom, which looks about the same size as a moses anyway, but converts into a proper cot at 6 months, and then just put the baby in the pram carrycot while downstairs.

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 11:44:14

*discussion, I wish you could edit posts - grrr!

JellyCurls Tue 30-Apr-13 11:53:30

roxvox 6 weeks ours were in Moses baskets as had long babies. Guess this might happen to you as we'll seeing as you are a tad tall. Go for a crib would be my advice, wish we had done that but not buying one for this baby as is last

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 11:57:00

I wish you could edit posts too smitten! It is very frustrating...

I am not really interested in a moses basket itself either smitten, but one of those mini cots for the bedroom (I want to be able to see baby through the bars). However it seems to suggest that you just use moses basket bedding, so I assume they are the same size, hence the question!

Thanks for the advice claphammama and jellycurls, perhaps it isn't worth the extra money for the first 6 months (we would have a full size crib for the nursery as well, but it would be awkward to fit in our bedroom as we have a huge bed ourselves). DH is 6'6" and I am 6', so we keep joking about having a tall baby...

Unfortunately none of my friends/family have had babies in the last 12 years or so, so there is no chance of borrowing anything! Thanks for the advice all.

Soupqueen Tue 30-Apr-13 12:00:12

wickedgirl, results could be tomorrow or Thursday. I'm feeling fine today, cramps have gone and have had no bleeding so, fingers crossed, the test itself hasn't caused any problems.

Thoughts with MoN

I've been having crazy, vivid dreams too and think its why I'm so tired. Thanks for the cat net heads up natalie, good price!

I've just been looking up the NCT nearly new sale and the next one in my area is 1st June, might hold off on buying anything big until I've had a look there.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 12:14:32

I may have been being nieve in my last post... Perhaps this is bigger than a moses basket as it doesn't offer a time frame, except to say 'Perfect for use from birth until your child can sit up or kneel' (although to be honest I have no idea at what age babies can sit up or kneel...)
link here

are you all having the flu jab? i can't decide if i should get on eor not, im 14 weeks now, but we kinda have gone past the flu season really

what sre you all doing?

Warlin Tue 30-Apr-13 12:15:39

rox thanks for the advice. I tried ringing the surgery to talk to the midwife but was given another number, where the receptionist acted totally confused as to why I'd be ringing there and gave me a third number...sigh. I just feel it is bloody difficult to get hold of anyone and will prob be told I'm over-reacting anyway sad

We got 9 weeks out of our moses basket. DS was 6lbs 13 when born so wasn't a big baby but he started hitting his hands off the sides and that would waken him. We moved him into his cotbed at 9 weeks and he slept so much better. I know others who have managed 12 weeks but I think anymore is unusual.

JellyCurls Tue 30-Apr-13 12:18:11

roxvox my dc were 56cm and 57cm at birth so think realistically you could have a child that long. We are 5'11" and 6'4"

Soupqueen Tue 30-Apr-13 12:22:26

iris, I'm not getting the flu jab just now but will get it at the start of autumn/flu season.

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:22:58

I'm really trying not to buy all the things that you're told that you should have, like a changing table and a moses and a load of other stuff that will probably be used for about a month then you have to get rid of. Otherwise we're going to end up spending a fortune.

I had enough of that when we were planning our wedding last year, half of the stuff that you supposedly must have was a complete waste of money.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 12:25:05

Warlin have you not been given a direct number for your midwife? Seems quite bad that, if something really bad happened, then you wouldn't be able to get hold of anyone easily. Sorry to hear your having problems getting through.

whiteandyellowiris I haven't had the jab, and it hasn't really been mentioned to me. I think I would have it if the midwife mentioned it. I've not had the flu before though (whether that means I am less or more susceptible to it I am not sure).

JellyCurls sounds as though you have a tall family! DH keeps commenting about how he's going to get a basketball hoop and try to encourage our children to get interested in the NBA hmm

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 12:30:05

smitten I am trying to do the same. Apparently if you go to Kiddicare they will give you a huge list of all the things you must have, but most of them are supposedly OTT. Perhaps it was because of this list that I recently read that first children cost approximately £10k in the first year! I am looking to get most of my stuff off of eBay, including this crib for the bedroom, which I have found on there for <£20, but only if I know that I will have more than a few weeks use out of it! Basically I want it to be big enough for the first 6 months, and then I will look to resell it and put baby in their own room with their full size (also eBay purchased probably) cot.

At what age do babies start to sit up on their own? I am very very nieve to all of this as I have spent next to no time around babies/young children.

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 12:30:19

smitten I disagree on the changing table. You use it for at least two years until you are done with potty training, it's safer and it really saves your back!

cuillereasoupe Tue 30-Apr-13 12:31:34

We are 5'11" and 6'4"

Both 5'4" here, though DP claims 5'6" hmm
My nipples are like bullets at the moment. Probably because it's bleeding freezing.

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 12:32:41

roxvox babies start to sit up when they are about 6 months

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:34:51

Clapham We've got a large chest of drawers from Ikea that are about changing table height, so I think I'll just shove a mat on there and use the drawers at the top for extra storage!

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 12:38:58

ah makes sense smitten. i remember some of my friends tried to change on bed or carpet and it didn't work!

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 12:44:28

I also realise how naive I am in how to spell 'naive'... Apologies for the spelling; I am going to blame it on baby brain.

Thanks claphammama, sounds as though this crib might be a good idea then (not that I am buying anything yet!)

I managed without a changing table - I wanted one because they are pretty, but we didn't really have room so didn't bother, and I never missed one - just did it on floor or bed. Mind you, rarely used a changing mat either, maybe I'm just slovenly?

Don't buy a bloody nappy bin - complete waste of money. Thought it was really good for the first few weeks, then the cartridges ran out and so got some 16p for 100 nappy bags from Sainsburys, and realised how bloody pointless and expensive the nappy bin was - although the nappy sausages it produces are quite amusing!

Turned up at the hospital 40 mins early that will be fun. I am clad I have the consultant though I had a lump of greenish mucus on wiping hope its nowt to worry about sorry for tmi!

Hi everyone. I'm back, I thought it was best not to post when I was feeling panicky in the lead up to the amnio. I didn''t want to bring anyone down.
On my way back home now, all went well and I should have my initial results tomorrow or Thursday. I'm really thinking it's Turners as the consultant said the growth is on track and right for my dates and babies with the other conditions tend to be smaller.
The fluid is only visable behind the head now and not right down the spine like at my first scan so I suppose that's encouraging

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 13:22:29

Haha some of the things I lived without/didn't buy/wish I never bothered buying
Nappy bin - big fat waste of money
Changing table - didnt buy one and never thought 'aw if only I had a changing table'
Changing mat- good for the messy ones lol
Moses basket - I borrowed off my sister and dd used it for 8 weeks
Baby bath - deffo a waste of money
And clothes in new born size pretty much a waste of money specially for a October baby they r much cosier in baby grows until they can fit properly in real clothes like 0-3

Dd was 8.8lb if that makes any difference to any of those things lol

Gender scan tommorow i can hardly contain my excitement

How you feeling about it being Turners mon xxx

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 13:25:33

Sorry I cross posted with u MoN
Glad everything went as well as expected and baby is looking good in all other aspects. How would u feel about turners syndrome? And how would dp feel about it? Hope tommorow comes round quickly for u and brings u some re assuring news xxx

Turners itself doesn't worry me too much but many Turners pregnancies don't make it to term and that's what's worrying us. If I lost the baby very late in the pregnancy that would mean having a cesarean thus ending any hope of having a baby with my partner.

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 13:40:13

but is there still a chance that everything is absolutely right MoN?

Smitten1981 Tue 30-Apr-13 13:50:21

At least you don't have to wait very long at all for your results MoN, keeping my fingers crossed for the best possible outcome for you.

I suppose there's always a chance Clapham I'm just preparing myself for the worst so that anything else is a bonus.

Thankyou Smitten I really hope all the prayers and crossed fingers work.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 13:59:49

Pleased to hear you've had the test done now MoN. I've got all my fingers crossed for a good outcome.

Warlin Tue 30-Apr-13 14:02:34

MoN yay that it's over and at least you will get the results soon. Make sure you rest and get plenty of TLC. Fingers crossed for positive results. flowers

rox I'm sure there is a number in my notes which are at home and I'm in work. Must get round to putting it in my phone! Think I'll just leave it and ring if it gets worse...can't be bothered trying to track someone down and then being told it's probably nothing. Will ring tmw if it hasn't gone away.

smitten I (or rather my back) couldnt be without the changing table. I didn't buy one initially with ds1 but then MIL wanted to buy us something and I asked her for one. We now have one upstairs and one downstairs. People will want to buy you things so I would hold off in the meantime.

We splashed out and bought a lovely Boori cotbed (can't remember how you spell it now!) for ds1. I feel too bad to buy a cheaper version for dc2, and yet I paid more as I thought it could be used for 2 kids...doh!

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 14:05:25

hoping for the best outcome for you MoN!

We came home via the Chinese supermarket so Dp is busy in the kitchen making lunch while I lie on the sofa.

Soupqueen Tue 30-Apr-13 14:20:21

Glad the test went ok MoN. Fingers crossed for good news.

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 14:32:38

Another set of crossed fingers, toes and hopeful thoughts here for you MoN. Good luck.

Natalie good luck for gender scan tomorrow!

Had my next MW appt today at 17 weeks with the same midwife that came out for DS when we started off as a homebirth. It was lovely to see her again and hear the heartbeat and the baby kicking away smile

We did the same as smitten and put a wedge-sided changing mat on top of a square of non-slip carpet pad that we laid on top of an old desk which we use instead of a changing table and also to store DS's clothes in the drawers. Nappy pail and folded clean nappies go in the knee hole of the desk smile

I must admit we didn't use a baby bath when DS was small - just bathed in the sink or in the tub with him - but now he's a toddler and can sit in it by himself we do use it every night as it's got a non-slip bottom and is so much quicker to fill than the entire bathtub. We should have waited a year till we bought it though. We got this one from Ikea which is only £2.50 with the Ikea Family discount.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 14:40:55

I like the look of that baby bath Xiaoxiong! My SIL sent me this picture that I thought looked like a pretty nifty idea too - laundry bath

Shootingstarsandcomets Tue 30-Apr-13 15:02:22

Glad amnio went well mon fingers crossed for you.
warlin I'm the same I went a bit crazy for ds and spent a small fortune in his nursery and bought a sleigh cot too thinking it could do for future babies- oops! I'll feel so mean if I don't do the same for baby two but not sure where the cash is going to appear from confused!
Has anyone thought about a bednest? They are amazing, we bought a Moses basket but turns out ds was a Velcro baby and would not sleep in it at all but I borrowed a bednest and t worked like a dream. More expensive than a Moses but they last longer and its well worth the spend. Also no problems stopping cosleeping at 6 months we night weaned ds and put him in his own cot and he sleeps beautifully in there.

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 15:03:58

rox that is really cute! You'd still have to fill the whole bath though to the right depth and with ours (extra long) it seems to take an age.

It would corral DS though when we take a bath with him. When he's with me all he wants to do is lunge at my boobs and breastfeed.

Xiaoxiong Tue 30-Apr-13 15:06:35

Shootingstars jealous of your bednest success! We couldn't find one to borrow and they seemed so expensive, so did the DIY sidecar cot thing with an Ikea Gulliver cot which worked brilliantly. DS was a velcro baby too smile

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 15:11:33

Xiaoxiong our bath is the same actually, whenever I go to take a bath I always forget and end up sat in ankle deep water feeling very cold whilst waiting for it to fill. I didn't realise you could get one so cheap from Ikea so I think I will just go for that!

Re sleeping arrangement, I personally am looking to get a cotbed. I like the idea that I can use it for a good few years. I intend to buy it off of eBay or gumtree or somewhere else second hand (obviously I will buy a new mattress) so don't intend to spend the earth.

shootingstars I really like the look of those cot nests, but unfortunately it won't work in our room. If I am right, I think you can hire one of the basic ones from NCT for about £99 for 6 months.

What i have learned from my consultant is -

GOOD NEWS: downs risk was calculated at 1-100000

BAD NEWS: tsh levels at 3.9 which can cause m/c early or late all this time i have been at risk yet they want to check this blood before giving me meds :'(

And my platelets are super super high meaning I have a huge chance of clotting considering the trauma and blood loss the last time I want to crawl into a ball and cry right now

And my HG levels are still really low despite taking iron religiously since week 6 or something, really really down and scared now.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 15:30:20

Hi falcons sorry to hear you had a bad appointment. Hopefully they will check your bloods pretty quickly and will get you some meds if needed. It is good that they are looking to do something about it, and also that they have all of this information now so they can best help you.

pinkbuttons Tue 30-Apr-13 15:50:49

Glad amnio went ok MoN will be keeping my fingers crossed for your results tomorrow

falcon sorry to hear about your bad appt. Have they put you on thyroxone and did they take your other thyroid levels? i have an underactive thyroid normally and am under consultant care for it though havent seen them yet. risk of mc is higher in 1st trimester which you are past so they just need to get you on meds before 3rd trimester. can also affect growth of baby but now that they know your levels they can keep an eye out. overall would say is good theyve found out now. sorry to hear about platelet levels is there anything they can do to prevent that?
Glad nuchal results are low for you though. sending you hugs.

I am sat in drs surgery after being told it was closed all day, ended up phoning emergency line and the computers are down so it is madness. apparently is an"emergency" though as have been given an appt. Felt like a bit of a fraud at the time.

Thanks roxvox and pink meds should sort thyroid issues will be on them if bloods today come back the same.

High platlet not sure there is anything to help just emotional with it all xx

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 16:53:53

sending you a big virtual hug falcon!!

Thanks claphamama I need virtual hugs right now not getting many in rl!

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 17:01:43

RL sucks. I've abandoned Facebook for Mumsnet. another hug :-)

favellio Tue 30-Apr-13 17:25:00

Fingers crossed for you MoN. Sending lots of good vibes your way thanks

Shirehobbit Tue 30-Apr-13 17:43:37

Busy day on here!

Good to hear from you MoN just keep everything crossed for you and Soup

I cannot imagine the stress that's caused Falcon - when will those stats change for you?

Hope you feel better soon, Pink and Clapham

Massive hugs for you all (and anyone I've missed)

In other news - don't forget it's round one of the masterchef finals tonight grin

I hope everything works out alright Falcon. Why can't this bloody pregnancy lark just be easy?

roofio87 Tue 30-Apr-13 17:57:08

Mon glad it went well today and fingers crossed for the results.
falcon sorry about your appointment today. hopefully they will be able to monitor everything closely and all will be fine.

re:bump, mine is now huge!! I'm loving it Haha. 17+4 today.
re:movements. I've still not felt anything. thought maybe I had but nothing since and nothing when the mw was poking baby with dopplerand and they were squirming away so just can't feel it yet. however I can tell when it has moved. sometimes my tummy is very hard and sometimes softer so I think that's when the baby is in different positions. it is also sometimes definitely sat on my bladder so I know its movjg about in there!!

been having a rough week, had dp's cousin's funeral yesterday, was very difficult. he was only 17 so very sad. then rang my dgran today and she had no idea who I was. she has recently been diagnose with alzheimers and is deteriorating rapidly. I think this is all why I have bought so much baby stuff already. it just makes me happy and reminds me of the good things written have to look forward to.
sorry for the ramble but felt good to get that out!!

HotSoupDumpling Tue 30-Apr-13 18:00:19

Roofio - that's rough. My grandpa doesn't recognise me and it's really hard at first, a sort of slow mourning process because their old self has gone. You sort of come to terms with it.

Falcon, sorry for the bad news, but glad there's some good news too.

mon - hope you are resting, glad this bit is over.

Have not forgotten about Masterchef! Looking forward!

Thinking of you mon hope you aren't left waiting too long for results- and soup . Sorry falcon and roofio are having a tough time, sending brew

Don't feel sorry jelly I really wasn't expecting to hear anything, and to anyone concerned I just had my 16wk app and midwife found the heartbeat using the doppler straight away- despite having no luck with the app! She even said before that it might take a while and that if she really couldn't find it she would pop round and ask the sonographer to have a look. I was v impressed- good thing about appointments in the hosp. I will disregard the fact I was finally seen an hour after my appointment time

Kiddicare do own brand nappies- usually £50 for a month (200) but £20 at the moment. Seems silly not to, they seem to have good reviews. Someone on the thread might have already said this, maybe that's where I heard it! hmm

Sorry to hear your appointment was worrying falcon. Hope they get back to you soon about whether you need the meds.

MoN goos to hear from you. I hope you also hear back soon. Do you have sky TV? There was a program on the home and health Chanel a couple of days ago that I caught a bit (they have baby program's on pretty much all the time!) about a girl born with turners and I thought of you. She had swollen hands and feet and a possible heart problem that put her in the special unit but looked a lovely little thing and the parents were able to take her home at the end. I wonder if you can get it online?

The combination of cheap maternity wear fabric and a stuffy hot room sent me into whole body sweating overdrive all afternoon. Disgusting. It's not even summer yet!

We are planning on buying a cheap chest of drawers and putting a changing mat on that too smitten, the changing tables seem very expensive and all except maybe one were a bit too high for me anyway when we tried them at John Lewis (5ft 3 so probably made for taller people). DH made me bring a doll that was in one of. The pushchairs to have a go! my nappy changing technique will need some work! blush

Shirehobbit Tue 30-Apr-13 19:53:18

I am really achy and sore this evening. I've had to get out the hot water bottle that I keep for period pains.
This is normal, isn't it?

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 20:17:20

shirehobbit I too have achy days when I end up going to bed early... Pretty sure it's just growing pains and things moving around to make room for baby!

How are people's diets? I am concerned that I am not eating healthily enough, but I can't picture many vegetables that wouldn't make me urge. I try to eat a bit of fruit during the day, and have a bit of salad with my lunch, but I have this horrible feeling that everyone else is doing really well with their healthy eating and it's just me who is struggling?

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 20:19:36

I should point out that I am normally fine with veg, but for some reason it has become one of my aversions that I really struggle to eat.

Shirehobbit Tue 30-Apr-13 20:22:10

Glad it's not just me feeling ouchie rovox

As for diet - I have very good days, good days and then I have those less than virtuous days (ahem). But are you taking a pregnancy multivit, too? Surely that helps.

Flyer747 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:23:41

Rox I'm totally the same, thinking everyone else is eating healthy and here's me eating too much white bread etc! One of my food aversions is also vegetables, I usually love them however in this pregnancy I've not been able to stomach them.

I eat the same as you with a bit of salad with lunch and some fruit. I'm sure we will be fine.

Shirehobbit Tue 30-Apr-13 20:24:57

I've found my appetite is really up and down. As are my tastes/desire for certain foods. I'm just trying to roll with it - I'm not starving or overeating and I don't think I'm neglecting any food groups for more than a day.

Flyer747 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:25:56

And I take pregnacare daily so hoping that makes up for any vitamins I'm missing out on....

Had my 16 wk appoint, midwife found the HB straight away 150 bpm, whats the old wives tale regarding HB rate and gender?

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 20:28:58

If the wives tale is to be believed then you're having a girl flyer! I am glad your appointment went well.

I am taking pregnacare daily too, as I was worried that I may not get all of my vitamins in my diet. I seem to only really want to eat carbs! Glad it's not just me though smile

Shirehobbit Tue 30-Apr-13 20:32:16

Mmmmm...carbs. Particularly 'white' carbs or 'empty' carbs...bread, crumpets, biscuits, crisps...
Definitely had days when I could have eaten a household's worth of them!

Flyer747 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:33:24

Oh also sorry for loads of posts. I handed my wee sample to the midwife and she asked if I was taking pregnacare vitamins, the reason she said she knew I was taking them was due to the fact my urine was bright yellow almost luminescent , has anyone else noticed this strange side effect?

Flyer747 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:36:07

Oooh a girl rox, I'd secretly love a girl (although I'm really not bothered either way)

Yes I'm like you canna get them carbs in my gob quick enough :-)

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 20:46:01

I've just eaten pizza for tea and that's what got me feeling guilty! It was all that I fancied though, and buying something I don't want will just mean that I eat a forkful, gag, and bin it. I haven't had any MS at all, but my gag reflex seems to be very sensitive when brushing my teeth/trying to swallow food I am not enjoying the taste of.

I've just had a quick google and a few people mentioned V8 vegetable juice. Sounds horrendous, and is probably supremely expensive, but I might give it a try just to try and make myself feel a bit less guilty!

I have to say that I haven't noticed any vibrant wee!

Not got sky Orange but I'll have a look online.
I can't stop eating I've had two plates of chiken with ginger and spring onion and noodles and could easily eat more. I've just had a second chocolate filled donut too. I feel like I'm constantly thinking about what I can have to eat next.

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 21:02:43

Just dragged myself off the sofa and cooking a massive portion of chorizo and prawn pasta - all for myself as I'm on my own tonight. Still feeling so sick and sorry for myself (although I know I have no right as people here have some real worries!) but I do believe that pasta solves most of minor problems.

Umlauf Tue 30-Apr-13 21:03:35

Ooooh I've just won a bugaboo travel system on eBay for £200!!! How can I spin to DH that the bargain makes it ok that I've been shopping?!

Umlauf Tue 30-Apr-13 21:04:10

Pasta is good clapham but chorizo can cure ALL AILMENTS!

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 21:06:50

agree umlauf and congrats on your purchase!

OMG - they are in Italy and Florence on Masterchef and talk Italian. Now I just feel nostalgic and sad and crying into my pasta sauce...

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 21:14:41

My pizza was topped with chorizo. I am loving spicy at the minute it seems.

Congrats umlauf! I haven't bid on anything yet for fear of winning something and then having to tell DH about it (we have agreed not to buy anything yet though)

Oh claphammama don't be sad! I take it you are from Italy?

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 21:21:21

not born in Italy but lived there for years! Florence specifically. Feels very much like home!

roxvox... I'm so excited in a perverted way!! Brushing my teeth is a traumatic moment every day. I gag and the only times I actually threw up was during brushing! I've told so many people about it - dentist, midwives, friends who've been pregnant. Everyone thought I was a weirdo! And DP thinks the sounds I emit when brushing are hilarious. So glad (again, in a perverted way) that I'm not the only one!grin grin

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 21:27:50

I'm glad you said it Claphammama because I am pleased, also in a perverted way, that I am not the only one! I think DH gets a bit hmm when I am urging whilst brushing my teeth or trying to swallow vegetables... I think I must look like a petulant child who is trying every excuse not to eat veggies/get out of brushing my teeth!

I bet that living in Italy was amazing! I have only ever driven just over the border into Italy, but DH used to holiday there with his family and always speaks fondly of it.

So, Masterchef, who do we want to win?

Claphammama Tue 30-Apr-13 21:34:05

I like all of them but perhaps Natalie... she is so young and shy and seems so sweet. I love Larkin's Asian dishes though...

roxvox if you are desperate try to use strawberry or other fruit children's toothpaste instead. I had the same with DS1 and it helped a lot. it was actually worse with him so strawberry toothpaste was better than no brushing. Need to buy some now too...

roofio87 Tue 30-Apr-13 21:36:37

watching this is badly making me want an Italian feast but I'm having to settle in a hand full of cherry tomatoes and a bag of quavers, not quite masterchef standard!!blush

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 21:40:00

claphammama I haven't had strawberry toothpaste for years! Mum refused to buy it for us but I used to use it at my friends house... Might have to buy some just for eating blush - thank you for the tip!

Roofio I am sure the Italians would applaud your ingenuity smile

I am a Natalie fan too, and I also like Dale. Not so keen on Larkin anymore but I am not really sure why!

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 21:41:58

Congrats on the bugaboo purchase! Are u gunna keep it at a relatives/friends house until the big arrival?

I'm not into master chef so ill just step aside on that front lol

Dh and I had Indian for dinner as it was payday naughty. Even tho I only have rice and the sauce from a curry lol

Now I need u to be honest, brutal if neccssary as my
Head could be well and truly in the clouds but dd is called honey what do u think of the name blossom for a second little girl? P.s I won't be offended if u all hate it lol

YES to the yellow wee! Not just me! The pregnancy pre conception vitamins especially, but pregnancy ones as well sometimes my wee is a really unnatural yellow.

Wickedgirl Tue 30-Apr-13 22:04:07

I went off Larkin last week. I think he really messed up but they asked Saira to leave and not him which I think was wrong.

I really hope Natalie wins.....she has really charisma and comes across so enthusiastically. She's great.

roxvox Tue 30-Apr-13 22:31:11

natalieand I really like the name blossom, I think that's lovely and that it goes well with Honey too.

wickedgirl I am the same, Natalie makes me laugh with the things at come out of her mouth, and she can cook really well too. I always feel as though Larkin tries too hard and doesn't get it right often enough.

Haylebop12 Tue 30-Apr-13 22:33:20

I honk I'm going to have to give up work... Only been there 8 hours and you have chatted for 3 pages! All caught up now (I think)

Pleased today wasn't too bad MoN and hope you get the results we all so wish for you.

Sorry to hear your concerns falcon I too am having monthly blood tests to keep checks on thyroid. I was unaware it can cause mc and I now wonder if that's what happened when I had my mmc last year?

IRT cots, we still have dd's cot (not a cotbed) so it's not huge. We are fortunate our bedroom is a decent siZe. Dd was in Moses basket or 9 weeks but she too was 56cm born and at 4.2 is 114cm. She's very tall and was a fairly big baby. Her dad is 6'3" so it's not a shock she gets mistaken for a 5 1/2 yo!

I second the idea of using drawers with a changing mat. We got a chest of drawers and put a mat on top. The top drawer was full of Nappies/wipes/cream then other drawers housed vests/babygros and socks etc.

Dh and I both worked till 9 tonight so we had Chinese... Naughty! Few days off now so with mil coming to stay the weekend I got lots to do!

HotSoupDumpling Tue 30-Apr-13 22:34:25

I'm on pregnacare and my pee is luminescent...

Natalieand Tue 30-Apr-13 22:37:11

Had some amazing news today a friend of mine had a miscarriage at almost 12 weeks in December and I found out today she's due October 21st one week after me! I'm so pleased for her :-)

cherrycherry41 Tue 30-Apr-13 23:06:19

Natalieand ill be honest, and you have every right to hate me for what im about to say... iirc your DD is called Honey? (i love this name btw) Honey and Blossom? Honey Blossom..? Im sure thats a candle scent blush I also think theres such a thing as Blossom honey too. I just think its too much...
But thats my opinion! Thought id be honest as thats what id want with my name suggestions, well on the internet anyway!
Im not horrible i promise! hmm

PseudoBadger Wed 01-May-13 06:21:53

Morning all!

Well I had heartburn last night, which is horrid - but I was pleased actually as hopefully it means all is still ok, as I've been a bit worried.

Natalieand Wed 01-May-13 07:15:02

Definately don't hate u cherry I wanted honesty as sometimes ppl dont be honest to your face cos they r too polite lol. I love both names individually but wasn't sure on them together that's why I asked so your opinion is much appreciated thank you :-) x

Gender scan in exactly 5 hours whoop!

Hopefully you get to hear your initial results today MoN

Shirehobbit Wed 01-May-13 07:36:19

Good luck today, Natalie - exciting!

Pains woke me up at 2am but seem better now, maybe the wee hobbit is doing some gymnastics in there?!

Big function at school this afternoon for all the parents, and my Head still doesn't want the news public until my cover is appointed, so cue some outfit anxiety this morning! Looks ok at the moment, but by 4pm, who knows blush

Flyer747 Wed 01-May-13 08:19:42

Can't wait to hear what you are having Natalie xx

Umlauf Wed 01-May-13 08:42:04

natalie yes my Dad´s going to collect it and will keep it at his until I visit in July for my mammoth baby shopping trip.
VERY excited to see what you are having, are we going to update the stats list with sexes/surprises?
How about Bluebell for a name, like Geri Halliwells daughter? Similar to Blossom but there isn´t a honey bluebell afaik! Just popped into my head reading your post!

clapham I lived in Siena for a year when I was 19!! I really miss the food! Spain can be hit and miss buut Italy was incredible!!

Shootingstarsandcomets Wed 01-May-13 08:47:56

So jealous of you living in Italy clapham, I love Italy, if I lived there I don't think I would ever return! Totally carb crazy here too was the same last time. Have made a huge bowl of prawn pasta salad for lunch. Am in maternity jeans today soooooooo comfy why haven't I worn these before now?!
Gorgeous day out there. I have my citizens advice appt today to talk about work and mat pay etc.Really hope I'm going to qualify for some sort of pay. Good luck for all the scans/results today.

pinkbuttons Wed 01-May-13 09:11:40

good luck with appt today shootingstars hope its good news for you.
very excited to hear your news natalie enjoy your scan and I.hope baby behaves itself grin
Also in maternity clothes here, was fed up yesterday of constantly having to pull tops down to keep my bump covered, now so comfy!

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 09:51:26

Morning all! still no better so gave in and booked myself an appointment with GP today. All I can feel apart from feeling sick is guilt about not being at work as we are so busy right now and I'm on holidays next week. Crazy. DP gets annoyed with me.

shootingstars nothing to be jealous about. Italy is amazing for holidays but it's not a great place for day to day living. No jobs, impossible to buy a place, everything too expensive in relation to salaries, corruption, favouritism... so many things that are wrong. That's why Italy has negative population growth and most educated young Italians are emigrating. It's a very sad and aging country falling apart. The grass is always greener!

Natalie I agree with cherry's comments on the name.

Was in hospital for 5 hours in agony last night. It was locaised to my left groin area shooting pains baby is fine got my bloods back fr yesterday still terrible so I will be getting put on meds I think

I hope I never have another yesterday in this pregnancy sad

natalie good luck at gender scan xxx

roxvox Wed 01-May-13 09:58:33

Oh no Falcon, that's not good! I am glad that they are sorting you out though and that baby is ok. I hope you're feeling better today.

Sorry to hear you're still not feeling well claphammama. Glad you're going to see the GP. I get what you mean about feeling guilty about not being at work. If you're not well then you're not well, and you have to do what is best for you and your baby.

Good luck today Natalieand. Fingers crossed you'll get a clear picture of a hamburger or a hotdog! I still like the name Blossom personally, but I can see what cherry is saying!

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 10:00:05

Oh no... It sounds like a nightmare night falcon. So sorry to hear this...
At least you know the baby is fine - most important. Will the meds fix everything? What worries you most?

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 10:01:37

ps. thanks roxvox!

Meds should help I think I missed the phone call this morning hmm

yesterday they think it could have been a hormone surge as my boobs went rock hard too

Think I was having sympathy pains last night falcon - shooting pains down from my pelvis through groin - not nearly as bad as yours tough by the sound of it. Sounds like you had a really shit day yesterday - hope you can put your feet up and enjoy the sunshine today.

Looking forward to hearing whether we have another boy or girl Natalie - hope baby performs for the camera!

Clapham I understand the guilt, but like roxvox said, if you are not well, you are not well. I always feel like I am skiving whenever I phone in sick though, even if I literally cannot get out of bed.

Also please no Masterchef spoilers ladies - we are catching up on Broadchurch at the moment (which is awesome!) so will be having a mammoth MC catch up on Thursday. Is it very sad that I am excited by that already? blush

roxvox Wed 01-May-13 10:46:36

I think I might be having some sympathy pains too. I just sneezed and it felt like baby swung a flail around in there!

Shootingstarsandcomets Wed 01-May-13 12:01:26

That sounds awful falcon but what a relief that your baby is ok. Back from appt and I will qualify but only just. Phew! Now got to go into work and tell them I want to return full time not 3 days a week as I originally planned to! I don't have to tell them why just yet so hope they don't notice bump and then I'll tell them once 20 week scan is all done and dusted. Hate doing this but just have to remind myself that its a multi million pound organisation and they can afford it whereas I cannot afford to not be paid.

Good news shootingstars - good luck with hiding the bump!

Have foolishly just stuffed my face at lunchtime, and am not wearing maternity trousers. Am now sat at my desk with my flies undone. Classy! Good job my meeting this afternoon is conference call, not face to face grin

JellyCurls Wed 01-May-13 13:36:48

Strange question ladies, does anyone else have or have experience of a sore coxyx when pregnant?

Every time I slouch bad for me i know no lectures please or get up from sitting mine feels so under pressure. Never had it before and I wonder if its SPD related. But had no SPD pain since I visited a Physio and got realigned.

I get that Jelly, also when I have been slouching or after being propped up in bed. I assume it's just the additional weight on the bottom of your back, plus everything being relaxed and pushed into weird positions. Luckily I haven't had SPD though...

I get that pain in my coxsix too. Had it a few weeks now and it's mainly when I've been sitting up in bed and try to get up, or if i'm laying on my back with me knees up and try and roll over that it hurts (slightly to the right, not in the centre). Been wondering if it's Preg related or just coincidence..? First preg and not entierly sure what SPD is blush...

20 week scan this time next week! eeeek!

pinkbuttons Wed 01-May-13 14:12:06

jelly coccyx pain can be part of spd, its part of the reason theyve changed the name to pelvic girdle pain as people get pain in lots of different areas.
we advise people to use cushions to try and stop your coccyx from being on a hard surface, there are special pregnancy cushions you can buy to help. and ideally not to sit in the same position for more than 20 minutes. sorry so many of you are suffering, hope it doesnt get too much worse xx

Racheld33 Wed 01-May-13 14:15:33

Hello all, been missing for a while as holidaying in the lakes.

MoN and soup fingers crossed for your results
Falcon, sorry you're having such a rubbish time

Definately also getting pain in bottom of back, especially after a long day, I assumed it was extra pressure down there (and did get it in my first pregnancy but luckily never got SPD)

Natalieand Wed 01-May-13 14:27:43

Baby no2 is a baby boy xxxx

roofio87 Wed 01-May-13 14:32:16

congrats Natalie how do you feel,I know you were picturing another girl! no shame if you feel a little disappointed. everyone keeps saying I'm having a girl and I know it'll take some mental re adjusting if its not!!

Congratulations Natalie!! How are you feeling - think you had a preference towards a girl didn't you?

Think we are two boys and two girls confirmed now then, unless I have missed some......

Umlauf Wed 01-May-13 14:34:10

ahh congratulations natalie!! one of each!

Natalieand Wed 01-May-13 14:43:47

I have to say I am a little disappointed in truth. When I left the place dh said to me I'm so pleased it was a boy I wanted a boy but didnt wanna say and I literally felt like bursting into tears I've managed to hold back so far. I no it sounds cruel and heartless as so many ppl on here have had losses or bad news and I sound selfish I just need a few days to adjust to it I think xxxx thanks ladies

Aww natilie thats great my ds is amazing you will love having a boy but I can understand it might take some getting used to xxx

Feel free to let it all out here Natalie - it's not really the done thing in real life, is it? I would have preferred a boy - and was a bit, um, shell shocked for a few days when found out it was a girl at the weekend. Disappointed isn't the right word - just had to rethink what I had imagined my life would be like.

And I know this won't help - but boys are fricking awesome!

roofio87 Wed 01-May-13 14:58:02

Aww don't worry Natalie you can be totally honest here. like bowlfull says its just going to take some getting used to and once their here you won't be able to imagine having any other baby!!

pinkbuttons Wed 01-May-13 15:11:23

Sorry your feeling a bit down natalie and definitely dont feel bad, I was convinced DS was a girl when I was pregnant with him, luckily finding out at 20 week scan gave me time to get used to it, and he is gorgeous and loving and you will have the best of both with one of each smile Congratulations and I hope your feeling better soon, Glad your DH is excited. x

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 15:21:44

congrats Natalie!

and likewise - with DS I was convinced I had a girl and we both really wanted a girl. We were really disappointed when they told us it was a boy. We got used to it after a couple of weeks and now... I have no idea why we wanted a girl... so I know how it feels to be disappointed but, trust us, boys are the most adorable, cheeky little monkeys. My DS is currently in love with me, thinks I'm the most beautiful woman in the world and wants to marry me.

So this time I really don't mind but I think I'm slightly more comfortable with the thought of a boy - mainly because I already know what it is and how to handle it (I'm probably being naive though :-)

Smitten1981 Wed 01-May-13 15:24:38

I just typed this message and then the site crashed - urgh!
Natalie, I know exactly what you mean. I'm sure I'm having a girl, I can picture what she'll look like and do, etc.

I'll be mega peed off if it's a boy (probably only for a day though). We find out next Saturday!

roxvox Wed 01-May-13 15:46:20

Oh natalieand sorry to hear you're feeling a bit down about it. No need to feel guilty, I am sure after a couple of days (and some boy clothes shopping) you will start to love the idea.

Racheld33 Wed 01-May-13 15:48:33

Congrats Natalie,

Our DS is the loveliest, cuddliest bundle in the world (which is probably why I can't imagine having a girl now). I think you love your first so much, you can't imagine what your going to do if you have the opposite sex second time around. You'll love it!

PseudoBadger Wed 01-May-13 15:52:48

Little boys are amazing! They really do love their mummies, mine is permanently attached to me at the moment grin

I've just had my preliminary results back.
Everything looks fine so far and it's another bloody girl. I would have loved a boy as would Dp and Ds but we're just grateful that so far everything looks normal.
So happy but don't want to get too complacent just yet. Keep up the prayers and crossed fingers because it's obviously working.

Oh my god MoN - that's bloody amazing news! Really happy for you flowers

cherrycherry41 Wed 01-May-13 16:14:54

MoN so happy for you!!
Fingers crossed for the rest of the results! thanks

Smitten1981 Wed 01-May-13 16:15:45

Yaaaayyyy MoN, that must be SUCH a weight off your mind from such a grim outcome at the start. What a relief!

roxvox Wed 01-May-13 16:19:11

That's fantastic news MoN! Do they tell you what the preliminary results cover or is it not as specific as that?

I really want some wine now to go with those flowers Bowlful and Cherry.

Preliminary results have ruled out Downs,Edwards,Pateaus and looked at the sex chromosomes so have ruled out Turners.
I need to do some more research because I'm not sure if the mosaic forms of these are ruled out.

wine - enjoy smile

cherrycherry41 Wed 01-May-13 16:22:27

wine just a small glass though haha grin
Not had a glass of wine in agesssss, or coffee for that matter- baby just doesnt like!!
Must be a boy and like his dad!

I'll be on this soon enough boring you with all the details of stuff I've bought for the baby, and discussing names. I can't wait.

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 16:32:12

wow - what amazing news MoN!!! You so deserve a glass of wine tonight! Must be such a relief!

Does it mean it will be your 4th girl...? Or do you already have a boy too?

Feel feel to bore us with all the baby stuff and baby names now. We will reciprocate for sure grin

Soooo happy and relieved for you MON that must be a massive weight off of your mind. I will keep my fingers crossed for you, as it must still be a bit daunting until you see it all finalised in black and white- but I have a big smile on my face, surprising how involved we feel with each others pregnancies on here!

Natalie I'm echoing others in saying don't feel guilty, this is the place you're allowed to say what you can't in RL! Me, DP, my mum and gran have all dreamt I'm having a girl and all I can picture is a girl! We're not going to find out, so thinking whatever we have I'm going to be so overwhelmed and exhausted I probably won't care by then!!

I agree with Jelly no MC spoilers please, this is the first ever series I've got into, albeit only in the last few weeks (please can someone explain how many times a week and for how long the episodes come on for as I have it on series link but am a bit confused about the format- 30 mins then 1hr feeling a but dim )

Falcon and Clapham hope you both feel better soon flowers

3rd girl Clapham My eldest is a boy. He's none too chuffed but beggars can't be choosers.

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 16:39:08

Thanks falcon! x
Just got back from GP - signed off for this week. Official note in hand and already sent to my manager. It changes nothing in how I feel but somehow helps manage the "not going to work" guilt.
Was also told NOT to talk... sorry... HOW?

takingachance Wed 01-May-13 16:56:18

That's fantastic news MoN, so pleased for you smile

Well I finally got my work Risk Assessment done and I am about to be 'signed off' from my normal duties as they are too risky and I will be offered 'alternative work'! Not exactly sure what they can offer - has anyone else been given alternative work due to pregnancy? x

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 17:00:22

what kind of work do you do takingachance? are you perhaps a spy or a stunt woman? smile
Office job here so no chance of an alternative work... my main risk is boredom or tripping over my handbag

grin @ Clapham I wondered the same thing... a student told me the other day he wanted to be a professional bungee jumper (he's 17 and doing A levels) maybe takingachance does that?!

takingachance Wed 01-May-13 17:04:57

he he, Claphammama , I could quite fancy being a stunt woman! But no, I'm a helicopter pilot..... not sure the vibration and noise is doing much for the baby!!

Ooh that sounds really exciting (better than our suggestions IMO wink
What could they ask you to do instead- could you be a controller or does that require additional training? V naive here at a desk with a red pen...

Umlauf Wed 01-May-13 17:08:54

ahhh MON just seen your fabulous news!! SO happy and relieved for you! So today we have had a boy and a girl revelation.

If no-one else has a scan before Friday looks like by the laws of probability mine will be a boy!

Soupqueen Wed 01-May-13 17:13:36

I'll catch up when I get home but a quick update from the bus - amnio results all clear! Feel like I can breathe again

Woohoo Soupqueen The luck on this thread is changing for the better. About bloody time. We just need some good news for Falcon now.

cherrycherry41 Wed 01-May-13 17:22:07

Oh Soup what a great day for healthy babies!
So happy for you both!! wine all round! grin

Yay Soup, flowers and wine for you too x

So pleased for you ladies smile.

Let's hope the tide is turning and it is all good news from here!

Claphammama Wed 01-May-13 17:24:15

Amazing news soup! today is another big and good news day! A glass of wine for you too!

takingachance you exceeded my expectations! This sounds great but yes very shaky and noisy. I know you are not supposed to be "shaky" when pregnant.
Also - no idea what else you could possibly do... will be interesting to find out!

takingachance Wed 01-May-13 17:35:39

Fantastic Soup - such a relief for you flowers

Yes, it will be interesting to find out what I'm offered. Feminist I'm not trained to be a controller, I suspect there will be some office work heading my way, so a bit different from my usual view. But the important thing is keeping baby safe.

textbook Wed 01-May-13 17:49:06

Such good news today everyone grin

Shootingstarsandcomets Wed 01-May-13 17:49:45

Woo hoo! Congrats on great results.
Sorry you're feeling down about a boy Natalie. I agree its probably because you love your first so much you can't imagine having one of the different sex. I'm hoping for another boy as can't imagine a girl! I'm sure you'll come round to it though and love him just as much as your dd. personally I think boys are the bestest grin

Haylebop12 Wed 01-May-13 17:53:51

Congrats natalie I too think being told its a boy will be longer to get used to then being told its another girl.

MoN wow, I was telling dh about your journey and how at your nuchal scan you received the news that was completely awful. Have just updated him and he's as pleased for you as I am. smile definitely treat yourself tonight. You deserve it.

Getting up off the sofa last night after work wa a struggle. Only worked 2 days and I ached, especially my legs. Really hoping this isn't the start of spd. I worked twice as many hours when pg with dd in an almost physical job (head waitress) so not sure why I seem to be suffering this time?!

Haylebop12 Wed 01-May-13 17:57:27

soup so pleased for you too, and such a relief I bet!

I've still not had results from quad test, afaik I'm expecting a letter so giving then till the end of the week.

Slippysnow Wed 01-May-13 17:58:30

Yayayayayayayay!!! What great news! I'm so pleased smile

Natalieand - I love the big sister / little brother dynamic - big sisters are so caring towards the baby boy, and they tend to adore her in return. I'm not so sure you get the same effect the other way round...

And as for having two girls, I am very close to my sister, more so than to my mum - so with two girls the mum can get squeezed out! On a purely selfish level, you'll always be the most important female in your daughters life now x x

pinkbuttons Wed 01-May-13 18:15:30

Fantastic news on here today, Congratulations to you both MoN and soup
I hope your both able to celebrate tonight, what a stressful time. so happy for you both xx

Xiaoxiong Wed 01-May-13 18:21:58

Oh MoN and soup what wonderful news and such a relief!! flowers to both of you this lovely evening.

hayle fingers crossed it's not SPD!! My sciatica has started in earnest already. First time around it didn't really kick in until past 20 weeks and then turned into full blown SPD around 30 weeks. I need to find that support belt around here somewhere...DH used to call it my "girth" to wind me up.

Just read - that is brilliant MoN and Soup! I'm so pleased for you! What a relief! MoN do they have any explanation for the high nuchal figure? Are they going to do more tests, or do they think it was just an unusual reading that won't cause any other issues? Hope I'm not being too nosy.