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September 2013 Babies-the Glowing Trimester

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JammyTummy Sat 27-Apr-13 18:48:47

New thread! May it bring lots of good news, funny stories and happy bump mummies!

jennimoo Sat 27-Apr-13 19:14:24
BinarySolo Sat 27-Apr-13 19:16:47

Marking place!

HettySunshine Sat 27-Apr-13 19:18:42

Marking my place.

We're in the pregnancy bit rather than the antenatal clubs - doesn't matter does it? smile

CharlW1 Sat 27-Apr-13 19:38:55

Marking place also.

Have give OH the task of getting the baby monitor as he loves all the gadgets so no doubt he'll be reading everything about them.

Binary I was told the same about bleeds and going straight to a&e. It does make sense to be more sensible, though won't be laying off sex just yet - though not sure if anyone else's OH is the same but he is not into sex as much as he is nervous about hurting the baby.

CheeseStrawCraving Sat 27-Apr-13 20:39:21

Hi all, great scan news! Just marking place. Shall we add boy/girl/surprise to stats list?

KamikazeeKid Sat 27-Apr-13 21:25:19

Just marking spot :-)

MammaGnomes Sat 27-Apr-13 22:18:06

Marking spot also and yes to OH not wanting sex as thinks will hurt baby! He might have to get over that doubt I can hold out till sept/oct l

MammaGnomes Sat 27-Apr-13 22:21:30

Want to add myself to the stats list what is EDF????

Creamtea1 Sat 27-Apr-13 23:13:02

Marking spot

frogchops Sun 28-Apr-13 00:06:30

Marking my place ;)

SGJ Sun 28-Apr-13 00:56:57

My sister has the Angelcare monitor with mat and says its amazing, though you must make sure to turn it of before you pick up the baby or it let's off the loudest alert noise! We have a BT monitor which is great. It's the only one in their range that displays the temperature on the parent unit, which I have found to be the most useful aspect of a monitor, ie so you can see whether it's too hot/cold in their room without having to go in and disturb them.

Dorita75 Sun 28-Apr-13 05:21:42

Wide wide awake at 5am ... I'm searching for a dress online and getting nowhere! This wedding is quite fancy so I need a dress that goes below the knee or to the floor, and I have a budget of about £65 yet am having real trouble finding anything. Best I've found are black and that's not good for a summer wedding. Thinking of just trying a normal dress a size bigger....might work if the style is right, bump's not too big....yet!

CharlW1 Sun 28-Apr-13 06:28:59

Dorita I was wide awake by 5:30 - I have to get up at that time in the week and struggle, yet today when I can lie in I am wide awake!

If you can't find a maternity dress for the wedding I would look at the normal dresses in t k maxx - I went last week and they had some lovely summer maxi dresses in stretchy fabric - I know it can be a bit hit and miss and not every store has the same thing but maybe worth a try.

flipflump Sun 28-Apr-13 07:45:35

My DH is the same, I haven't been told to avoid sex but he's nervous of hurting baby (in the nicest way possible, I explained he's not a horse, if you know what I mean) he's now even more concerned knowing the placenta is low. He's gone off it but I'm hoping to sway him soon.

Think I over did it yesterday, I'm a bit uncomfortable this morning and woke with a sore hip, I was being good and stayed on my left all night, now paying the price.

We're going for the Angel care too. I've been a nanny/mat nurse for years and have woken so many babies unnecessarily, just to check they're breathing. If its the one this that will let you relax, then it's got to be worth it and so reassuring. My sister used one and loved it. Her son was born with a heart defect and after major surgery, they were very nervous taking him home. The monitors gentle click reassured them that little man was safe and well.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend! Looking forward to more scan news this coming week.

flipflump Sun 28-Apr-13 07:46:52

Cheese straw, I agree on adding the sex/unknown to the stats. Would be great to see percentages.

JammyTummy Sun 28-Apr-13 08:04:41

Ooh Kamikazee I didn't realise we had the same EDD! We'll wait and see what it amounts to!

Dorita why don't you just type in 'maternity maxi dress' into google shopping? Lots of stuff is bound to come up.

frogchops Sun 28-Apr-13 08:30:03

I read a whole thread about sensor pad monitors (can't remember where now) and it scared me into not having one...lots if people said it made then worry unecessarily as baby can just move and roll off sensor parts setting off loud noise. Cue major panic and woken baby! But then others think they're great. :-/

Wincher Sun 28-Apr-13 08:45:06

Hello! One more day till Scan Day...

andadietcoke Sun 28-Apr-13 09:11:05

An alternative to the Angelcare pad is the respisense clip - they clip on to nappies and seem to be my only option with twins if they're sleeping together. They're also a lot more portable than the mats (although DH and I did have a little giggle at the cattle prod tummy tickle that the baby gets if it forgets to breathe!!)

www.respisense.co.uk/

andadietcoke Sun 28-Apr-13 09:11:47

Ooh wincher how are you feeling? I was a bundle of nerves before mine. Are you finding out the sex?

andadietcoke Sun 28-Apr-13 09:15:33

flipflump we haven't had the sex since before my BFP (poor thing). Re being hung by a horse though - poor DH suffered an extensive round of pub banter on Friday night when someone decided that to get a girl 'you had to go in deeper'. DH is now known as whelky (apparently the whelk has the biggest penis to body ratio!!!) given his capacity to produce twin girls. I was mortified. DH seems quite proud hmm

jennimoo Sun 28-Apr-13 09:44:00

No DTD here either, but I've not had many days without flu, sickness, cough etc either!

CatherineHMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 28-Apr-13 09:46:08

Hello - just popping in to say we'll be moving this shortly into our Ante Natal Clubs section.

KamikazeeKid Sun 28-Apr-13 09:46:50

jammy oh yeah!

Regarding monitors I was put off the pad ones due to friends stressing unnecessarily so bought a colour monitor one - its brilliant! It picks up slightest sound very easily so for those first nervy days in his room alone I turned up the volume and could hear his every breath! Useful for when they need monitoring in the lounge if you are in kitchen etc

badguider Sun 28-Apr-13 09:49:23

Hi Folks,

As with most things I am going to wait and see about the monitor. I know I won't want my wee boy away from me for the first few days so after that I'll see where he's sleeping (planning on getting a slidealong cot for our bed and getting a 2nd hand moses basket for daytime) and how big he is and how wriggly and also how noisy he sleeps anyway and how paranoid I am before deciding what's necessary.

Also, I think a friend is going to lend us a whole travel system! She's somebody I know well enough to trust she wouldn't lend us a carseat that had been in an accident, she's keeping it for her possible/not-decided-yet third. The pram is very small wheeled but we'll try it on our local pavements and see.
And another friend has all her stuff in the loft in case her twin sister gets pregnant so we can borrow any of that at any stage we want it, her's includes more of an 'off road buggy' suitable from 3mo and a bigger cot suitable from about 6mo - what lovely friends, this will save us a fortune! smile

Today I'm off out for a forest walk. I moaned on fb yesterday about my dh and friends all going mountainbiking without me today and an ex-colleague said she ise in exactly the same situation (she's due aug) so we're meeting down there for some walking and a coffee smile

frogchops Sun 28-Apr-13 10:15:07

Kamikazee, which monitor is that?? Sounds like the kinda thing I'm after. wink
No Dtd here either since bfp (embarrassingly jan 15) DP doesn't seem tooo bothered and did say before bfp that I wouldn't incase he poked baby. I duno who or what he thinks he is/has!! grin

JammyTummy Sun 28-Apr-13 11:10:11

Oops sorry re thread in the wrong place! As long as we have everybody that's fine by me though.

My DH was worried about poking the baby for precisely two minutes (concerned face and all), then I suppose he thought about it and decided that for his own benefit he will take the advice that it can't cause any harm. Selfish sod.

LexyMa Sun 28-Apr-13 11:21:44

checking in to mark my place!

kimjayne Sun 28-Apr-13 12:04:50

Gosh, anyone else had days where they feel as though baby has swiped every single scrap.of your energy? Today Im like the walking dead. Very similar yesterday too. Think long hours at work are starting to get the better of me.
Re baby monitors, I know 2 people who used the angel sounds monitor with sensor pad. They 100% loved it and luckily we have been offered one of them smile I also got given some really cute baby all in one jackets yesterday and some ru fab maternity clothes, mat bras and nursing bras yesterday. So that's a few things to Rick.off the list.

fl0b0t Sun 28-Apr-13 12:16:36

Oooh also, just posted on last thread: head angelcare monitors v good! Hurrah for moving to Ante Natal (though not sure the difference with here!).

Also, burning mumsnet question- why do people "mark their place" on threads when you can click the "watch" button and go straight to the thread from the "threads I'm watching" tab? I just wondered as I often see the first three plus pages of threads littered with "marking my place" posts!

JammyTummy Sun 28-Apr-13 12:26:38

I often think of all the ladies who left out thread since December. I do wonder if they managed to get on a new baby bus!

andadietcoke Sun 28-Apr-13 12:32:48

jammytummy yes, some of them have grin

Sorry flobot, sometimes particularly on a quiche thread it's just to say hello although you've nothing to 'report' smile

I have nothing to report other than have just had a name change. I will go and update the stats thread now too...

frogchops Sun 28-Apr-13 12:53:50

Flo.... I'm never on a pc I post on my phone. There's no threads I'm watching button on my phone app (its a 'threads im on' button) so I have to post something random so that it knows which threads I'm part of! That's my excuse anyway!

Creamtea1 Sun 28-Apr-13 13:47:27

Yep same as frog - I'm on iPhone app so you have 'threads I'm on' in your settings - you don't see a thread in there until you have made a comment, hence marking place - sorry ladies!

EmmaDee Sun 28-Apr-13 14:36:24

Hi all, hope your weekends are going well. I thought I'd just pop in to say my bump size worries have been alleviated! Woke up this morning with a proper pregnancy bump!! Yipee!

Weighed myself yesterday, first time since week 10 and I've put on nearly 1 and half stone!!! Is this normal,.I'm 19 weeks tomorrow?

fl0b0t Sun 28-Apr-13 15:21:11

Ah ha, that makes more sense. I couldn't get the app to work on my ancient htc, so I use the webpage on my phone which does have a "watch" button!

emma Everyone had different start weights and we're all gaining at a different speed! If you're eating ok, don't worry! Glad you have a proper bump though now smile

jennimoo Sun 28-Apr-13 15:35:19

I'm on iPhone and didn't get on with the app, so also wondered why people 'mark their place'!

weebarra Sun 28-Apr-13 15:48:55

Morning all!
We have had the same BT monitor since DS1, it's not a video/motion one but it worked fine. It is getting a bit tempramental now though so might have to invest in a new one.
Went out for dinner and to a comedy club for a friend's birthday last night which was really nice, except for the fact that the comedy club was standing room only. It's a very small, hot venue and after two hours of getting my bump bumped I was ready to keel over so had to wimp out early!
Hard to believe I was going to gigs until two weeks before DS1 was born - although I suppose I am 5 years older now...

emma I'm 19 weeks too, have put on 8lb since the start. My 'Im expecting' app says 4-8lb is normal range for 18 weeks.

Just checked the stats thread & we're due the same day! Hope ur enjoying ur new bump :-)

JammyTummy Sun 28-Apr-13 18:14:12

We are getting through our baby shopping list incredibly well. Have all our furniture and quite a lot of the general baby kit. We now have the cot bed mattress, breast pump and car seat base to get, out of the 'big items'. Getting the baby monitor was a satisfying tick on the list!

Creamtea1 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:33:09

Emma and ready - therein lies the problem with comparing weight gains and using apps. Emma if you started as a bmi of healthy (19-24.9) then my app says the recommended weight gain at 19 weeks is between 7 and 12 pounds. If your bmi was over 25 then the recommended is 5-8 lbs.
bottom line is dont stress, it will come off after I promise smile

EmmaDee Sun 28-Apr-13 18:43:50

I'll hold you to that creamtea!! I was pretty shocked, I didn't think I'd put on any, up until this morning I didn't have any bump!! And I'm still in my own jeans, crazy!

EmmaDee Sun 28-Apr-13 18:44:31

Ooh and yip ready same edd! Let's see if that happens!

CharlW1 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:45:14

Creamtea I agree about not comparing weight gain - I have put on a stone and a half but not stressing about it.

Dorita75 Sun 28-Apr-13 21:20:23

It’s nuts isn’t it charl I hope you got back to sleep? I missed 1.5 hours sleep, yet been busy all day – few hours trying dresses on in town, 3 loads of washing on, tidying the house, hovered and even made soup and chilli to be frozen, and only just sat down – feel full of energy but know that tomorrow I’ll probably be knackered!

I bought a non-maternity dress in TK Maxx, lovely cornflower blue lacy one that isn’t right for the wedding but will be for few other things I’ve got on in next few weeks. I did get a normal dress from Bhs just in a size 14 instead (usually a 12). Bhs was my last resort and I’m amazed I found what I needed there! Just hope I don’t grow too much in the next month... wink

jammy I tried that, you know what’s it like though, you think there’s plenty of choice around until you start looking and nothing is quite right! Sorted now anyway.

Didn’t know about the watch thing, thanks *flobot

I’m feeling little flutters now (right now!!) I love it!

KamikazeeKid Sun 28-Apr-13 21:55:08

...decided to weigh myself. ..1stone on at halfway point. ... More shocked by the sudden addition of stretchmarks....I had some appear during week 38 last time now they have new buddies :-(

KamikazeeKid Sun 28-Apr-13 21:58:30

Frog the brand was "summer" got it on amazon. Can't recommend it enough and the signal range and pic is brilliant.

Its usually on offer I'll see if can post link

Ooh, that makes me feel better creamtea, thought I was at the upper end of the spectrum but if theyre basing that on my bmi then I'm not too worried! Don't believe the whole bmi thing as I've got v.large boobs/hips & (used to have) a tiny waist/ankles/wrists so don't believe it can accurately say whether you're a healthy weight or not given there is no accounting for body shape!

frogchops Sun 28-Apr-13 22:24:05

Thanks kami, that would be good.

Really boring day in the frog house today, haven't been out, and haven't really achieved anything in the house either. Work tomorrow, weekend went too quickly confused
Oh and the dogs got bloody fleas. hmmMeh.

PurplePoppySeed Sun 28-Apr-13 22:53:30

Wow new thread! I'm on scan and holiday countdown this week. Scan Thursday then off to Portugal for 2 weeks on Friday grin think we've finally decided not to find out the sex, so another 20 week wait to find out, but hopefully it will be an extra thing to get me through labour.

btw has anyone had sicky symptoms return recently? I seem to feel really sick all day if I've eaten too much or too late the previous night, it's getting to the point where I'm thinking I shouldn't eat after about 4/5pm very annoying!

Wincher Sun 28-Apr-13 23:13:22

I finally persuaded Dh to let us find out the sex, so yes we are finding it out! Hooray, am so excited. But nervous in case there's anything wrong.

I keep meeting people who are about as pregnant as I am who have barely any bump at all, whereas mine is huge... and they aren't all first timers. I'm going to be huge by the end!

're weight gain, I think I've put on about half a stone which is about right as my bmi was about 27 beforehand. Not sure exactly what I weighed though so hard to be sure!

juniper9 Mon 29-Apr-13 00:00:15

I'm worried because I haven't put on any weight. In fact, I'm lighter than I was at my booking in appointment. My bump seems to be growing and I think I can feel movement, but still worries me! To be fair, everything worries me...

SGJ Mon 29-Apr-13 04:12:44

Grrrr, it is 4am and if bloody DH doesn't do something about his hacking cough soon I am going to lay on top of him and let the baby kick him in the nuts. GET SOME COUGH MEDICINE AND GO TO SLEEP!!

weebarra Mon 29-Apr-13 11:07:05

I've put on 4 lbs but my bmi was 31 before I got pregnant so I'm happy with that.
And yes, am feeling generally queasy again sad .

CharlW1 Mon 29-Apr-13 12:09:13

Purple I have had the return of feeling sick today which is the first time in weeks! Just on my way back home from work - I couldn't bear it in the office as people sniffing and coughing was making me feel so much worse so thought I would work the rest of the day from home- thankgoodness I'm able to do that.

frogchops Mon 29-Apr-13 12:18:47

I don't know why but I'm feeling considerably less pregnant than I was a few weeks ago. I'm still bumpy although I think growth has slowed as I was huge from quite early on. I just all of a sudden feel 'normal'. confused Am dreading g Fridays scan. hmm

Wincher Mon 29-Apr-13 12:29:01

Had my scan, all's well and it's a boy! It's so nice to find out now rather than at birth like I did last time. I'm maybe a tiny bit sad about not having one of each but two boys will be just lovely.

Creamtea1 Mon 29-Apr-13 14:54:51

Wincher - 2 boys are lovely (I've got a set if them smile) and especially if the age gap is small ish they will grow up as best friends.
(wont mention the fighting wink)
And I may not be the first - you are going to get this at least once a week forever now - 'there's always a third one..'

Wincher Mon 29-Apr-13 16:04:43

I think two's definitely our lot! Two boys will be fab and I just know if I had a third it would be a third boy as well! I certainly wouldn't have another just in the hopes of having a girl though.

fl0b0t Mon 29-Apr-13 16:15:11

purplepoppy we're scan buddies for thurs! I'm not til 3pm ish though. Not holiday buddies though! Boo!

My nausea returned a few weeks ago int the evenings in particular, and feel horrible whether I eat or not. Still on my medication from the first bit of sickness but not sure what good it's doing (too scared to stop taking it just in case!).

Baby took all of my energy this weekend (though we did go out fri and sat) and I've spent today literally in bed. Still here now sad feeling a bit better though so may get dressed in time for husband to get home from Work.....

JammyTummy Mon 29-Apr-13 16:24:08

Went to look for a bikini today, as we are away to Greece in two weeks time. Bikini shopping isn't the easiest task on a good day, but it's a bloomin hassle with a bump! Thought I'd get a nice cheapy one from primark as chances are it will never be used again. Turns out that my boobs have graduated to a size 16 and that I have a whole lot more ass now than I used to! Slightly disheartening but fairly successful trip to good ol' primark!
Although- they for some reason didn't have a maternity section but only maternity jeans?! Is that normal? I was so sure they had a fairly good mat department!

weebarra Mon 29-Apr-13 16:43:46

I think Primark have only just started doing mat wear. I'm way too fat for a bikini but I got a nice cossie from jojo maman last time which is still going strong.
I'm also a member of the two boys club and I would be very happy if #3 was too. There's 2.8 yrs between my two and they are like a mini gang.

Creamtea1 Mon 29-Apr-13 18:51:05

In further news, may have accidentally ordered a cameleon today..worried that Kate Middleton all over the news getting one will make the price go up! (Well that was my justification anyway)

RunningBear78 Mon 29-Apr-13 18:52:07

Can't believe it has taken me three days to find the new thread ...

Scan news, all good and it is a boy! Quite surprised at the size of the willy in such a tiny baby! Great sonographer, gave me a pic of a little foot, soooo cute. Did anyone else 'just know' what sex the bub was before the scan, and prove rift? I was convinced it was a boy from the 12 week scan.

Sickness and exhaustion returning here too, even after a week of loads of energy.

Also, lacking the bedroom activity, slightly relieved to hear we aren't alone, although main problem being I fall asleep as soon as I lie down whether in bed or on the sofa!

Girraferama Mon 29-Apr-13 19:41:44

Hi all just checking in. Had our scan today...it's a girl! Super surprised as hubby is from all boy stock and my sisters have so far had 6 boys! Super excited. I had no instincts but hubby has been convinced it was a girl from the word go.

Baby was awkward to say the least - ended up being there 3 hours and scanned 3 times as they couldn't get a proper view of the heart. Finally got there, all ok but barely got a glimpse of the baby 'the right way up'! Never mind, the main thing is she's all ok. Such a relief!

juniper9 Mon 29-Apr-13 19:55:13

I've just been to primark and quite a lot of their stuff can accommodate a growing bump, even if it isn't technically maternity. Lots of elasticated skirts (which fit under bump) and summer dresses that fall from the boobs.

frogchops Mon 29-Apr-13 20:06:03

Eeeee! Good scan news girls! We def need a blue/pink addition to the stats. Interesting to know the boy girl ratio! Thinking back, all the takes about predicting sex told me I woul have a girl. Only the wedding ring and hair thing said boy!

flipflump Mon 29-Apr-13 21:21:38

I've just finished a good book on the kindle, called Mummy diaries by Louise Hamilton. It's only 77p and a very honest account of pregnancy and labour. I enjoyed it but I'm enjoying all things pregnancy/baby related!!

JammyTummy Mon 29-Apr-13 21:44:32

I'm still getting through Jools Oliver's preggo book- I've had to ration it out as I'm a little sad at the thought of not having it to read any more! Thank you to whoever it was that originally recommended it, SUCH a lovely read.
Love me a baby and preggo book. Also quite enjoying the magazines, cause they're full of kit/ clothes/ decor/ books inspiration.

KamikazeeKid Mon 29-Apr-13 21:50:56

Frog it was the summer digital zoom one search on amazon or eBay. ...the new models waaaay too pricey forwhat it does but the previous versions available on eBay new still and it did what you need just not got flash curvy edges or buttons like newer version ...

BinarySolo Mon 29-Apr-13 21:54:31

When does the third trimester start? I know I should know this!

PurplePoppySeed Mon 29-Apr-13 21:54:38

Charl and fl0b0t so glad it's not just me - I was worried I may have eaten something bad last week!

fl0b0t I'm at 11.20 but won't be able to report back in time for yours as I've got to get from Guildford to Canary Wharf for 3 - not entirely convinced it'll work out if baby doesn't behave, but I'm going to show willing to get there!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Tue 30-Apr-13 06:43:18

binary this table at the top may help. http://www.baby2see.com/development/week23.html
From about week 27ish it seems

jennimoo Tue 30-Apr-13 06:53:05

I think it's when you hit 28 weeks you're in third trimester. I find the 27th / 28 weeks thing a bit confusing though!

BinarySolo Tue 30-Apr-13 07:24:15

Hmmm, Tommy.org says 29 weeks. Glad it's not just me being thick and that there is actually conflicting advice!

jennimoo Tue 30-Apr-13 07:40:56

I think the 1st / 2nd trimester is the same, in that there's several different interpretations of when you change. I like the maths/ symmetry of 12 and 28 weeks so will go with that. And you get there earlier ;)

JammyTummy Tue 30-Apr-13 08:53:22

I'm with jennimoo on that!

flipflump Tue 30-Apr-13 09:15:21

Has anyone used bump bands? I feel like I need something to hold it all together and make me feel secure. I'm a size 16, so have bump and wobble. I've been feeling a bit uncomfortable the past few days and wondered if these might help? I was going to order from mothercare today, being a 16 do I need large?

andadietcoke Tue 30-Apr-13 09:24:14

flipflump I have one but haven't used it since I bought some Massive Knickers from Tesco as they seem to hold everything in and are less hassle when going to the loo etc. I'd say a large, yes.

flipflump Tue 30-Apr-13 11:06:08

Thanks dietcoke, I'll get large and give them a go. Some massive knickers wouldn't go a miss either, I'll get those too.

andadietcoke Tue 30-Apr-13 11:43:40

flipflump mine are indeed mahoosive. £3 for 5 pairs at Tesco - they're great (if a little embarrassing - they'd sail ships) but they come half way up my bump and I'm much more comfortable as a result.

jemimahpuddleduck Tue 30-Apr-13 11:44:41

Hi all

Been a bit quiet lately was away last week but kept up with all your news!

It's so exciting seeing who's having boys and girls, we had our scan a week and a bit ago and all was well, we didn't find out the sex although DH nearly persuaded me!

Off on relaxing holiday with my mum in couple of weeks and it can't come quick enough really looking forward to feeling the sun on my skin! I need the Vitamin D ... That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it grin

fl0b0t Tue 30-Apr-13 12:10:04

purplepoppyseed Oh you're not far from me either! I'm at Frimley Park. Will keep everything crossed.

Jemimah- take it easy- I got horribly burnt this week in the UK- my skin has become super sensitive to the sun since pregnancy!eek!

jemimahpuddleduck Tue 30-Apr-13 12:15:56

Thanks for the heads up re sun burn Flo I will keep an eye on it. I'll be just as happy under a brolly if need be. Hope you have recovered now.

LCR77 Tue 30-Apr-13 12:42:16

Well ladies I am officially fed up. 21 weeks and still no flutters or kicks. I'm putting it down to low-lying anterior placenta. Even more annoying is everyone keeps asking me if I've felt anything including the cleaner at work (on a daily basis no less!). I know the little monkey is fine from my scan but I'd really like to start bonding properly with her.

Also, anyone else experiencing neverending wees??! I seem to be going a lot but if I hang around a little longer on the toilet a second and sometimes third wee will come along!

Totally agree on the Jools Oliver book (thanks for the recommendation) I raced through it though as it was such an easy and enjoyable read. Really helped me to start thinking about motherhood rather than focusing on my pregnancy. Am now on the 'What to Buy for Your Baby' as really need to pull my finger out and get organised.

Just realised I appear to have had a bit of a rant!

PurplePoppySeed Tue 30-Apr-13 13:00:53

Flipflump I'm wearing a bumpband from H&M today for the first time and it's brilliant. I've got under bump maternity work trousers that I'm always worrying will fall down, the bump band is holding them in place and making my tummy look better under my top + looks like another layer I'm wearing, without being too hot!

Fl0b0t I've got 2 friends who have just had their babies at Frimley park & one due in June smile

JammyTummy Tue 30-Apr-13 13:05:45

LCR I'm just reading the funny bit about Jamie trying to karate chop a photographer! Ha!

badguider Tue 30-Apr-13 14:19:09

LCR I'm nearly 22 weeks and still not feeling anything. I have an anterior placenta (though not low). It doesn't actually bother me (hasn't since the scan), I know some people have found theirs quite distracting/uncomfortable so I'm happy the placenta is like a wee cushion. Also, my wee boy is pretty mellow in there and hasn't moved a lot during my scans so I figure he's just snoozing smile

kipsonline Tue 30-Apr-13 14:48:31

Hello everyone! We're just back from my extra scan at 23 wks to check growth (due to me being on enough scary meds to fuel a whole army now)!!

Anyway, the good news is that the baby is growing fine despite all of that and v v active, pretty much everyone I know has felt a kick now??!

And we are expecting a 3rd boy. I had a v good inkling this was the case from a few dreams/ images etc in the past few weeks but it has still shaken me a little I think to have it confirmed in his full glory, so to speak. I genuinely love being a mum to my 2 adorable little men and am sure it will be just as lovely 3rd time around but a small part of me can't help being a little sad that I will always be completely outnumbered, and never get to do girly things together and never use my girls' name... I think I might need to have a little moment to get it out of my system then move on swiftly....

RunningBear78 Tue 30-Apr-13 15:07:15

kips have your moment, it will make you feel better! i was convinced we were having a boy, and super excited about it, until the moment it was confirmed and i spent the rest of the day really down and terrified about it. I ended up in tears by bed time about the whole thing, but after a cry instantly felt better.

also, we had some really lovely girls names, one of which would have been dh's mum who passed away when he was little, so feel a bit sad not to be able to have a new Daphne in the world.

i'm planning on borrowing dietcoke's girls, she has two so surely one will be going spare now and then!? wink

Creamtea1 Tue 30-Apr-13 15:58:22

Kips/bear - perfectly natural to feel like that and you have your moment (or moments)
And don't forget all the stories about 'I was told it was a X and our popped a Y!'

weebarra Tue 30-Apr-13 16:23:27

kips I know exactly what you mean! I adore my boys and am not sure I'd know what to do with a girl, but if I do end up with another boy I will be a bit sad for my daughter that I'll never have.
So, you have your moment!

andadietcoke Tue 30-Apr-13 16:25:46

Runningbear yep, absolutely, as long as I can borrow babybear for stu occasional trips to the rugby club.

JammyTummy Tue 30-Apr-13 17:32:11

A bit off topic, but does anybody know what a good birthday present for a 4 year old boy would be?! Nephew's birthday soon and I always feel stuck for presents for him!

weebarra Tue 30-Apr-13 17:41:40

Last year DS1 would have liked anything to do with the Octonauts! Lego is also good.

Creamtea1 Tue 30-Apr-13 18:22:18

Second the Lego vote, also anything batman related was good at that age for mine - he was really into dressing up then too - super hero costume? Good ones in bigger sainsburys, asda, Disney store

kimjayne Tue 30-Apr-13 18:39:41

Jammytummy - Im with the other ladies on Lego. I have two nephews around that age and they love Lego. Especially the emergency services sets that include police cars and fire engines. smile hope that helps.

Had my maternity chat with HR at work today. It's the first time in years that anyone has taken mat leave at our company so it's like the blind leading the blind. Not sure that's a good thing. Anyway, it's all pretty standard from.the sound of things. Still shocks me that statuary mat pay isn't slightly higher. It's just lucky I havr some 'rainy day' savings to fall back on. I'm gonna have to.work my ass off in June and July in order to push my commission up as much as poss.

Dorita75 Tue 30-Apr-13 20:52:32

Same here LCR I felt what I think was movement last Tuesday when I wore maternity pants that were actually a bit tight and I think the band was pushing the baby up a bit. I think I felt some 'bubbles' on Sunday but other than that, nothing. Am trying not to worry as I'm sure it's all okay. I'm 20.5 weeks..

I've got bump bands, given to me by SIL, wore one on Sunday, was great!

flipflump Tue 30-Apr-13 21:04:13

Bump bands ordered, thanks ladies. Will report back!

ION my husband won't go to the shop to buy me a strawberry split. Unsupportive!!!!!! wink

CharlW1 Wed 01-May-13 06:45:55

Dorita don't worry about not feeling movement - I'm 22 weeks on Friday and have only just started to feel movement like bubbles popping and flutters.

jennimoo Wed 01-May-13 06:58:17

So, digestive system is very 'slow' and need to find a while to sit still for anything to happen in the toilet department, not easy with a toddler! Is it fybogel I need from the chemist?

Kittenkatzen Wed 01-May-13 07:18:24

Morning!!!

I'm back from a lovely week away in the Canary Islands - we had brilliant weather all week so my vit D levels have been well and truly topped up and I'm all chilled out and relaxed which is nice (what's the betting this mood won't last all morning at work!)

Haven't a hope of catching up fully but will take a flip back trough the shiny new fred now so I'm vaguely up to speed.

Hope everyone's ok! smile

Kittenkatzen Wed 01-May-13 07:41:19

Congrats on all the lovely scan news ladies! We had ours yesterday, all well and we stayed team yellow grin. Baby was a little pickle though and it's head buried in my pelvis so the sonographer had to jiggle and poke quite a bit to get him/her to move...after which it wouldn't sit still for the measurements gringrin. Oh yes and apparently my baby has a "fat little tummy" - its off the end of the waist measurement chart thingy on the printout in my notes shock so it appears I have a little chunk in there!

Oooh dietcoke you have two girls? Congrats! Are they identical? (Sorry if I've missed that somewhere...)

Someone was after kids dress up costumes - TK Maxx are also pretty good on that front.

I second the vote for bump bands with trousers - mine is from H&M as is soooo comfy. Also like someone else said, I find it gives you a nicer shape if you have a bit of chub as well as bump like I do (sorry for my name checking am on phone)

Ooh and ladies looking for swimsuits/bikinis - I got a nice one piece from M&S online, and a tankini from Next Directory, both really comfy

JammyTummy Wed 01-May-13 08:40:48

Thanks all for your advice! Will be sure to have a look for a good costume. I actually saw one in a magazine and I thought it was AMAZING- it was a proper astronaut suit from the science museum shop. Went on the website to have a closer look/ buy it and it didn't include the helmet! What good is an astronaut outfit with no helmet?! So it's back to the drawing board for me.

Is anybody finding that their bump is moving higher? Mine has definitely moved and looks almost a bit pointy!

LCR77 Wed 01-May-13 11:03:34

Good to know I'm not on my own on the no movement front badguider and dorita not worried as such just a bit frustrating. Keep thinking I might be feeling something though so hopefully not far off...

Been getting quite a few bargains on ebay including a brand new Mamas and Papas tankini which fits brilliantly as does my good as new Jojo Maman Bebe denim skirt.

If anyone is buying a lot of stuff online it's worth joining Kid Start which has money back and discount codes for loads of major retailers (some in-store too) https://www.kidstart.co.uk/Users/PageView.aspx?p=myhome&k=1 It all starts to add up especially for bigger item baby stuff

I am 24 weeks now and boy am I feeling the kicks. Quite comforting at the moment as it's all low down and gentle, but past 30-35 I remember well the jabs under the ribs which we all have yet to endure enjoy!!

Think my feet are fatter/spread out now, but strangely my hands are suddenly skinny - my wedding/engagement rings are sliding about.

Met up with a friend last night who works overseas and is back for a couple of weeks. Typical unobservant type of bloke, didn't notice I was pregnant till I pointed it out while ruefully drinking lime and soda in the pub. I was particularly enjoying what I was wearing yesterday though, a grey cotton dress from Mamas and Papas (sale, £22!) which had a fab asymmetric gathered style at the hips. I'll see if I can find a link...

EmmaDee Wed 01-May-13 14:16:30

Hi all, just calling in to catch up and to ask......is the emotional wreck stage nearly over or does it last the full 9mths??

Last night when I got home from work there were a load of sheep in our garden (we keep sheep so I dont mind) but one of them was in a really bad way and I thought it was gonna die. Obviously in my condition I cant go near sheep especially ones that look close to death! But I was SO upset I cried for over an hour about the poor thing.

fl0b0t Wed 01-May-13 14:26:42

kimjayne know what you mean about maternity pay. In laws not helping by saying "they understand" when they're basing knowledge on SIL who got an AMAZING package where she works. I'm only going to get statutory and whilst I'm extremely grateful to be getting something.... I'm sad it's not more!

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Wed 01-May-13 14:29:01

jennimoo there's one more which I can't remember the name of which did wonders for my constipation. Will check when home after work and let you know.

fl0b0t Wed 01-May-13 14:32:27

Kitten hope you had an amazing holiday smile (suitably jealous!)

Jammy my bump is still quite low, but if I lean back by even about 5 degrees, I look like a toblerone! So pointy!! (my friend said it was my muscles separating??)

Had a bit of a nightmare with Next Directory online (including them randomly "refunding" me £122.99, then phoning me to tell me I owed them £150 after I bought my swimsuit! Nightmare sad

Went to a MASSIVE mothercare in Oxford yesterday to grab a gorgeous stripey jumper some more bras (this time feeding ones) in a slightly bigger size but seems I'm still a c-cup having been a d-cup for years! Ah well! Comfy bras are good! I was a bit overwhelmed by the mothercare tbh, it made me want to buy everything. Oh and was in a big tescos this morning and there were all these gorgeous soft cotton babygros for £1.50!! bargain. I bought none (long story, I was buying breakfast for 50 people and had to carry it on my bicycle....)

Eeeknumber3 Wed 01-May-13 15:42:56

Hello all, sorry been quiet, was my best mates wedding all weekend and I was bridesmaid...am getting too old for that, surely that's the last bridesmaidly duties!
ION had scan yesterday and everything is fine, apart from having leg length 3 weeks ahead of the due date, long legged! We are having a baby boy (I am a little sad I cant get pretty girls things, shallow admission), really had no preference already having boy (7) and girl (5), DS is thrilled, DD remains totally nonplussed/indifferent!

If anyone's still not feeling their baby then I can recommend doing a Pilates bridge....very weird sensation but soo much more fun than when there wasn't a baby in there!

kimjayne Wed 01-May-13 18:48:12

Fl0b0t - as this is our first kiddy I've never done much research into maternity pay before ... But needless to say I was highly disappointed when I found out how much we get! sad Thank god I saved some emergency money after the wedding. Fortunately we have bought or borrowed most of the big stuff for baby now (cotbed, pram, changing unit, car seat, isofix and even hot a breast pump given to me). How are we expected to live off the pennies that they call maternity pay whilst bringing up a new baby? angry it really annoys me.

Kittenkatzen Wed 01-May-13 19:01:30

Ohhhh fl0b0t I had a complete nightmare with next directory a few weeks ago where they kept setting me up with a credit account that I didn't want every time I placed an order, even after having assured it wouldn't happen again when I called to complain. I got so annoyed with them that I closed my account and now just order stuff on my bf's account grin

Kittenkatzen Wed 01-May-13 19:02:10

Oh and emma sadsadsad did the sheep make it??

What gets me is that all my public sector friends (teachers mainly) get enhanced maternity packages. If the government think that smp is sufficient why do they give more to their own workers?!

flipflump Wed 01-May-13 19:47:44

Is anyone else suffering with twitchy legs? In the evenings, I lose all control of them. It's driving me mad!

badguider Wed 01-May-13 19:49:57

ready - Try being self-employed sad I get maternity allowance for a bit but it's very low and I have to keep my clients and keep my hand in so I have any work to go back to!
Also, no pay while I'm at maternity appointments. And nothing if I'm sick either.
Hopefully in the longrun the flexibility will be family-friendly but right now it's not great. I will have to be doing some work again from 3months.

jennimoo Wed 01-May-13 20:02:30

Zombie - would love to hear your recommendation for other remedies for the slow digestion. Getting fed up of having to sit on the loo for 15 mibs every day or having stomach ache...

Flip flop - I'm getting a bit of restless legs, again in the evening. Feels like the beginnings of leg cramps though, which I've so far avoided but had last time around...

I sat at my desk on hold today watching my bump move smile and DH felt his little boy kick did the first time today too!

frogchops Wed 01-May-13 20:06:54

Oooooh thank god it's not just me with uncontrollable legs!! Very annoying!!
Can't even imagine how I'd cope on just smp so I really feel for those having no other option or are self employed. I'm lucky I suppose in that I get 90%wagr for 6 weeks and then half pay for 12 weeks. Even that's not a lot, but I feel much luckier than some.

SGJ Wed 01-May-13 20:16:21

Frog, I get practically the same package as you, though it's contractual mat pay, not statutory, meaning that if I take the enhanced amount I'll be contractually obliged to go back and stay there for 13 weeks before I could leave without having to pay back the enhancement. So that's why public sector workers get more - they need to ensure that we come back!!

HettySunshine Wed 01-May-13 20:18:08

Yes yes yes to weird restless legs in the evening! What is that - it's driving me crazy. The only thing I can do is have a bath, try and get DP to give them a bit of a massage then go to bed.

Speaking of bed, is anyone else really tired again? I'm in bed as I write this (albeit with the curtains open)! I just can't seem to get enough sleep. I guess growing a person is a tiring business. sad

frogchops Wed 01-May-13 20:20:19

Yes sgj that's what I have to do, boooooo! Am trying to work out if I can afford to extend mine to 12 months off. Have also asked that my 12 weeks half pay can be spread over 24 weeks instead so its less of a drop. Might be worth asking if its something that might benefit you too?!

Dorita75 Wed 01-May-13 21:39:19

Restless legs yes! Feels like they'll go numb but sometimes when I flex my feet I get a cramp feeling in one toe!

I get same package as you frog SMP only after 18wks. I'm trying to save as much as possible now but it's not easy. Might buy a lottery ticket on Saturday!

MammaGnomes Wed 01-May-13 21:54:15

I've been told to get luck legs it's a Mama mio lotion from mamas and papas supposed to work wonders for restless legs which I suffered from pre preg too gonna pick some up at the weekend so will report back for you fellow sufferers

SGJ Wed 01-May-13 22:30:10

Oh goodness, our HR department couldn't cope with that kind of innovative thinking! Last time I asked if I could carry over 3 weeks' holiday to the next year (rather than take the money up front) and they were very much 'does not compute!!'.
Fortunately due to timing this time around I'll go back to work in April and have my total year's 8 weeks' holiday accumulated so though I'll be off still, I'll be paid for the last 8 weeks - I'll need it by then!

flipflump Wed 01-May-13 22:32:41

Dreading smp, I'm not entitled to anything else. Never mind, I'm trying to save as much as possible just now. We'll stop eating out and spending money on the house for a few months. We're fairly organised, don't have much more to buy. We'll have a frugal few months and hopefully all will be ok.

Spoke to my sister about the twitchy leg issue. She's my pregnancy guru and also a nurse. She suggested tonic water, forgotten what it contains but apparently it works. Worth a try anyway!

Kittenkatzen Wed 01-May-13 22:43:10

It's quinine I think in tonic water isn't it? My ex's nan suffered horribly with restless legs and that was recommended to her too. The only other thing that helped was having someone sit on them for her (seriously!)

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Thu 02-May-13 00:30:46

jennimoo it's lactulose.. Worked wonders.
Nowadays a few prunes in the morning and an apple in the day are doing the trick, but any sign of constipation and I'll be back on two teaspoons of lactulose in the morning. Was having two tsp in the morning and one tsp after dinner during the worst patch.

CheeseStrawCraving Thu 02-May-13 00:45:42

Ooh so so far I have restless legs, constipation and I'm self employed so get bum all in maternity pay. I was told it would be 90% of my pay, and as we only set the business up six months ago that doesn't bode well... ION had a lovely spa day today and managed an hour and a half body massage, albeit sitting up but it was luverly! Loved Jools Oliver book, but don't have kindle, only ipad and seems to be more expensive to buy books on their istore. Someone mentioned a book for 99p, it's 2.99 on ipad! Boooo.

CheeseStrawCraving Thu 02-May-13 00:47:31

Did someone mention you could bookmark where you were up to in a thread somehow?

jennimoo Thu 02-May-13 06:39:05

Cheesestraw - there's a kindle app fit iPhone so I guess for iPad too, so you aren't stuck with iBooks if kindles cheaper smile

RunningBear78 Thu 02-May-13 07:55:11

Just wanted to join the moan about smp. I had the added fail of being told I wouldn't have a job to go back to as I've been working on 1 year contracts for the past 3. Sigh, time for a change me thinks! Starting to worry as we haven't done any baby shopping yet. For those that have everything, how much do you think you have spent? I haven't really looked into it, but hoping eBay will save me.

Also another one here feeling absolutely exhausted again, so exhausted I have dreadful headaches and can't work. Fell asleep for two hours yesterday morning, and was asleep most of Friday last week too. Struggling to keep on top of work.

Derpess Thu 02-May-13 08:10:57

Hi all
Anyone really struggling with hip pain? Can barely walk today and have had to go sick. Last time I mentioned to midwife she said it will just get worse. Now it is worse is there anything I should push for or do I just need to put up with it? Don't know if its just painful cos of the extra weight or the start of pelvic girdle pain... Seeing midwife on Tuesday after scan (can't wait...) hope she has something more useful to say this time!

I'm not feeling any kicks yet but I do have a but of extra padding for them to get through so am hoping that's why.

We haven't got any baby stuff yet. Have just moved so been concentrating on that, also just waiting for scan to confirm everything is good then we will start getting everything at the end of this month.

Derpess Thu 02-May-13 08:16:16

Also someone asked about still bring emotional/ hormonal... I am big time - walked into a meeting last Weds and started to have a hot flush was so embarrassed I walked out and into the ladies where I was crying uncontrollably while a senior manager was saying dont worry its just your hormones- sooo embarrassing.

Then on Sunday spent the entire day sat on the bed crying whilst watching my husband put furniture together. Just couldn't pull myself together at all!

running have u been working for the same employer for 3 years? If so, you're probably still entitled to redundancy as they have to treat you the same as a permanent employee...

Derpess I'm suffering from pelvic/lower back pain, exercise tends to be uncomfortable when I do it, but helps afterwards (I do Pilates, yoga & swimming). I also see a chiropractor every few weeks who re-aligns my hips & sticks a few acupuncture needles in which helps massively but unfortunately it's not on the nhs! For me, anything that keeps me at work is worth the extra cost as I don't get much paid sick leave...

kimjayne Thu 02-May-13 09:03:44

Runningbear - you should check out the AWR regulations for temp workers. I'm pretty sure you should be covered as long as you've worked there for more than 12 consecutive weeks since October. I hope that helps?

Wincher Thu 02-May-13 10:12:48

I get the same as the NHS package, which is 6 weeks at 90% of full pay, then 18 weeks of half pay plus SMP, then 12 weeks of SMP, then three months unpaid if I want to take the full year (which I think I do). I was worried about the unpaid time this time round as I'll still be paying nursery fees for DS, but in fact they have to carry on giving you childcare vouchers on top of your SMP as they are a benefit. I emailed payroll to check this and had a slightly oddly worded response saying 'it has to be your decision to stay in the scheme, but note the money will come from your departmental budget' <guilt guilt>. Ah well, I'm entitled to it and I'd be a fool to turn down an extra £250 a month for six months! Plus DS will get his free 15 hours a week by then which will cut down the bill. I'm planning to settle DS1 into reception and DS2 (first time I've used those terms!) into nursery in the first week or so of September 2014 and then back to work.

Derpess Thu 02-May-13 10:43:03

Thanks Ready- I will look into seeing a chiropractor privately if my midwife can't help. I'm also hoping to find a local pregnancy yoga class so that might help too.

Creamtea1 Thu 02-May-13 10:44:29

Wincher I've been looking into what happens to childcare vouchers when I cut over to smp too - my work (private sector, global company) still give your childcare vouchers and take the money out of your smp (which doesn't actually leave much smp left over each month) and any other benefit they pay for it on my behalf, and when I go back they take everything I owe them for said benefits out of my first months pay!

RunningBear78 Thu 02-May-13 10:52:50

The advice I have had (admitedly from work) is that they 'might' have work for me after my maternity leave and therefore take me back, but that they aren't obliged to. Things possibly are not helped by the fact that my current contract ends at the end of September, so I guess that means I'm not really being made redundant, just finishing off my contract. I am tempted to just run through things with the local Citizens Advice, although the gov.uk website seems to agree with work.

I get the equivalent 'benefits' as a permanent staff member which is the smp - 90% of pay for 6 weeks and the £136 for 33 weeks. God I wish I still worked for government envy

Interestingly, apparently I'm technically still on the payroll during mat leave, and after 4 years of rolling contracts we are supposed to be made permanent. So, 3 years of working on rolling contracts + 1 year of mat leave = 4 years right? Might raise that one ... or trot off into the sunset and become a part time yoga teacher instead grin

I don't earn a lot, but the thought of £136 a week is a little scary. Feel very grateful for a cheap/affordable mortgage and husband in work.

Will definately follow up the suggestions though! Thank you flowers

RE hip pain, can you get a referral to a physio, that seems to be the standard practice. definately ask the mw.

ION ... I think Pip had hiccups last night! If felt like he was jumping inside at regular intervals, not like the odd one sided nudge I've felt before.

badguider Thu 02-May-13 11:22:13

Derpress - ask about physio. I'm going to a general talk by the maternity physios tonight at 5:30 at the hosptial. It's offered to all pregnant women in my area and we're advised to go along before we have any issues. Then if you need proper physio it's also 'self-referral'.
Try contacting your nhs board direct and ask what the process is for referral to antenatal physio.

A friend of mine is a month ahead of me and has hip pain caused by an overly loose sacro-iliac joint (spine to pelvis at the back) and she's been measured for and fitted with a sort of girdle thing that she finds really helpful.

badguider Thu 02-May-13 11:25:46

Mat Allowance for the self employed is only the £136 a week right from the start!!
Luckily as I am self-employed I always have a decent wodge of savings to tide me over a good few months... I also try to over-estimate the tax I am due to pay so when I get my next tax bill shoudl find i've saved more than I need.
So long as I stay fully busy over the whole summer then I'll still have that money to tide me through 3-6months post birth (going to do a tiny bit from 3months, first as my 10days KIT, then i'll give up MA because even working one a day a week earns me more than MA).

Wincher Thu 02-May-13 12:09:41

Creamtea1 they aren't allowed to do that! See this link: www.hmrc.gov.uk/employers/sml-salary-sacrifice.pdf. I've read various MN posts where people have had this battle with their employers, but the legal position seems pretty clear. The above document says "Therefore any SMP payable must be paid in full and in cash, for up to 39
weeks, regardless of any contrary contractual arrangements. In particular, the
SMP payable cannot be further reduced by the terms of a salary sacrifice
arrangement"

I'd have to pay the money back if I didn't return to work, but that's fair enough. I can't find anything from a quick google about the legalities of having to pay it back even after going back, but it's worth checking out. This link is also helpful: www.payingforchildcare.org.uk/data/files/Childcare_during_maternity_leave_April_2012.pdf

You do have to weigh up (and it's a decision to be made now, before the payslip nearest to 25 weeks), whether it's worth leaving the scheme now in order to make your pay when on mat leave higher, but then not receiving the vouchers through mat leave. If you don't have the appetite for a legal battle with your HR department right now you might well be better off leaving the scheme now so that your pay is higher, and rejoining when you go back to work.

Wincher Thu 02-May-13 12:15:01

I've just done the sums for myself and it's actually a closer decision than I thought. Based on my actual entitlement which I've just checked (8 weeks full pay, 16 weeks half pay plus SMP, 15 weeks SMP, 13 weeks unpaid) I will miss out on £1,376 less tax etc by staying in the scheme, but gain £1,568 by staying in it. So it is worth staying but not by a huge amount.

Derpess Thu 02-May-13 12:59:27

Bad guider- thanks I was wondering about physio. Will ask the midwife and if she can't help I will get on to the NHS board for my area.

Anyone having their scan today?

Creamtea1 Thu 02-May-13 13:09:14

Thanks wincher that's invaluable info - I didn't know that at all and shall be taking that up with HR - that in itself will take weeks as our HR is off shore in India I think so everything is via email and takes days..

jennimoo Thu 02-May-13 14:45:34

Runningbear - I agree with others: take advice on this. I think you are still entitled to redundancy process and payment even if you are just working out the end of a contract. I've done lots of employed contract work over the years and I'm pretty sure that's how they have to do it. The law changed to stop employers getting out of their responsibilities with rolling contracts. Good luck!

Derpess I used to be a hr bod (at the time when the temp worker regulations were introduced), am a bit rusty but am pretty sure that although they can terminate your contract fairly easily by saying it has an end date etc. technically they are still making u redundant- it just means they can skip the consultation process. I'm pretty sure you'd still be entitled to statutory redundancy & then additional if they offer it to perm staff. Definitely worth checking out with the CAB as a lot of businesses get this stuff wrong.

Our HR policy is legally wrong on quite a few points & you just have to go away, check the net or other sources then resent them with the correct info. Amazing how quick they are to back track! I think they hate dealing with me now cos they know I have a fairly good idea of when they're bs-ing.

Creamtea if ur benefits involve cars/bonuses then pm me as I've had to do battle on them so am fairly clued up

Sorry that one about contracts should have been to running not derpess! Getting confused now....

LCR77 Thu 02-May-13 16:01:00

I'm a little bit confused about SMP. Any HR bods who can advise...?
My maternity package is 8 weeks full pay, 16 weeks half pay then SMP after that. Would I be entitled to SMP as well when I'm on half pay or is this dependent on the employer?

RunningBear78 Thu 02-May-13 16:13:58

Thank you Ready will definately take some advice, it is such a minefield! It would be nice if this was made simple for preggo ladies (and you could genuinely trust employers), I don't know about you but I find making a sandwich complicated these days, so HR legislation feels waaaaaaay beyond me at the moment!

LCR you're not entitled to both ordinarily. Just the public sector being generous again! It's more likely that your employer will claim the smp on your behalf to help fund it, much like they do with sick pay.

LCR77 Thu 02-May-13 16:51:57

Thanks ready I thought that might be the case. I'll ask the question as my boss said there were some changes to the staff handbook although we've not seen it yet. It's still quite a good package considering I work for a charity so can't complain.

weebarra Thu 02-May-13 19:46:00

Had my cardiac scan today and looks as though all is well, although baby in rubbish position! They're giving me another one at 29 weeks, two days before we fly off on holiday.

PurplePoppySeed Thu 02-May-13 21:22:38

Derpess both Fl0b0t and I had our scans today. Mine went well, we didn't find out the sex, so another 20 weeks wondering smile

it was amazing seeing it again and how much it has grown.. I'd been worrying as the bump & my weight gain were so small, but all looks on track and measurements put me at about 20.5 weeks, which is half way between my EDD by dates and EDD by my 8 week scan - so good news all round!

Off to Portugal for 2 weeks tomorrow, so I can relax and enjoy now!

CharlW1 Thu 02-May-13 21:37:07

Glad the scan went well Purple have a fantastic holiday smile

Derpess Thu 02-May-13 22:07:37

Pleased you had a good scan purple. Hope you have a lovely break.

badguider Thu 02-May-13 22:08:49

Congrats on the good scans ladies smile

I went to the open antenatal-physio talk tonight at my local hospital. It was lots of stuff I already knew about relaxin and the anatomy of the pelvis but it was interesting seeing the model pelvis and the joints and ligaments and pelvic floor muscles and how they all work together.

Also, very interestingly, the physio said that the whole 'you must lie on your left side after 20weeks' shouldn't really be that strict. She says if you're comfortable on your back or right or moving around in bed then don't worry about it. It's only if you're getting circulation problems or sore hips/knees in bed to worry about proping yourself with pillows on your side.

But... what she really did emphasise was shoes - your relaxed ligaments mean that you're likely to get dropped arches which cause your knees to fall inwards and then hurt and also hurt your hips. You should only wear shoes with arch support - particularly coming into summer, birkenstocks, fitflops etc are good, flat flip flops or ballet pumps are really bad.

The other thing she really emphasised was lumbar support when seated to keep your pelvis in line. She rolled a hand towel and put it in the small of our backs and said we should do that whenever seated or driving for more than about 20mins.

frogchops Thu 02-May-13 22:56:48

Thanks for the info on shoes badguider, I'm a ballet pumper in the summer :-/ I can't wear flip flips tho as I hate the toe posts. Wonder if my toms might be better?

Creamtea1 Fri 03-May-13 08:28:56

I've been wearing converse the last week, I wonder if that explains why I'm so achy (back etc) all of a sudden?

badguider Fri 03-May-13 08:43:44

I was planning to buy converse this summer but maybe I won't. They are very flat sad

badguider Fri 03-May-13 08:47:59

Toms are flat as a pancake inside too aren't they?
I have some shoes by kicker that have a moulded footbed and birkies. Still need to find something like cons though...

RunningBear78 Fri 03-May-13 08:49:11

Ooh interesting stuff from the physio.

I've been struggling with lying on my side and regularly find myself on my back. I read somewhere that lying on the back after 20 weeks can make some women pass out from the pressure of the baby on one of the main arteries, but that did sound a little drastic. Although did worry DH one evening when he came home to find me fast asleep lying on my back!

Don't think I have any shoes with arch supports ... ho hum more shopping grin

badguider Fri 03-May-13 09:23:27

She said lying on your back could make you wake up feeling dizzy and ill and with cramp in your legs, but passing out without waking up is very unlikely.
She also said that the vein in question that can be crushed is the return blood coming back from the legs to your heart - somebody had previously told me it was the blood supply to the baby but this isn't true!!
If you cut off your own blood circulation for long enough and don't move, it can in extreme circumstances stress the baby into producing a meconium poo before birth (but i'm guessing it would have to be very late in pregnancy for this to happen).

badguider Fri 03-May-13 09:25:09

Even wikipedia says "Symptoms of late pregnancy inferior vena cava syndrome consist of intense pain in the right hand side, muscle twitching, drop of blood pressure, and fluid retention". - It's unlikely you'd be happily snoozing unaware through that!

flipflump Fri 03-May-13 09:37:40

Thank you for shoe info, I've been in pumps and cons for the past couple of weeks. Come home every evening complaining of sore feet. Time for some birkies, had some years ago, so comfy!! If anyone finds shoes, like cons, with support, I'd love to know more.

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Fri 03-May-13 09:48:32

I'm wondering whether ballet pumps with gel cushions might do the trick? Ie the arch support gel cushions?

frogchops Fri 03-May-13 16:16:34

Just had scan, everything is fine, baby weighs 332g apparantly and all measurements are normal. He is def a he and was lying the opposite way to last time I saw him with his arms up. Was amazing, I want to go again! X

CharlW1 Fri 03-May-13 16:33:10

That's great newsfrog smile I can't wait until next scan - 10 weeks today, when I am 32 weeks - so a bit of a wait yet!

ION I just get stat maternity - where I work has no enhanced maternity - they are currently reviewing it but not in time for me - may be next time though smile.

Great info badguider I am off to Cornwall later today - have parked the cushion to put in the small of my back.
I am finding it difficult to get comfy shoes - when I am not pregnant I have small fat feet and now even M&S extra wide fit can be a bit snug - so far comfiest are a pair of New Look sandles about 3 years old and a pair of long boots from the Next Sale 2 years a go!

frogchops Fri 03-May-13 16:48:16

Just noticed on my notes it says I have anterior placenta.... What does this mean again??

JammyTummy Fri 03-May-13 16:56:00

If I'm not wrong, anterior placenta is fine as long as its not low lying? Does that also mean you might feel baby a bit less?

jennimoo Fri 03-May-13 17:07:47

Bad guider - thanks for sharing info. I have orthotic insoles for my shoes anyway but end up wearing old lady shoes or boots most of the time, so it's trousers only. Was so hot this week I had to wear a skirt for work and got out my Birkenstocks which definitely work well although rubbed slightly as I've never worn them in properly!

I folded a cardi up to go behind my back in the car today on your advice and it definitely seemed more comfortable (was a 2.5h journey!)

Just SMP for me, although I was working for the council last time around and got extra and saved that money up so still have enough to 'pay' myself my normal (2/5s...) salary, so not too bad. Thankfully DD gets her free 15h child care from January, so that will help!

CharlW1 Fri 03-May-13 17:34:05

frog it just means your placenta is at the front so you won't feel baby as much.

frogchops Fri 03-May-13 17:55:27

Oh, ok thanks! Will it move or is it there for good?

CharlW1 Fri 03-May-13 18:05:38

It will move up as your bump grows butility it will stay at the front.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Fri 03-May-13 18:21:29

My fit flops were amazing in my last pregnancy as I started to get heel pain so I'm wearing them rather than be barefoot in the house. I think a lot is about varying heel heights too so I have some (sensible) heels for work but don't wear them consecutive days. The fit flops were great support.

EmmaDee Fri 03-May-13 18:22:09

Hi all great scan news everyone, am I the only one left? Mines next Friday afternoon, feels like an age away!!

Has anyone else been getting pains in their bump, well more like on it? Last night it felt like I'd pulled some muscles or something, then this morning it was ok, but it'd coming back again now, is this normal?

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Fri 03-May-13 18:23:58

I had my scan today and all is great! The placenta is at the front which explains the lack of movement. The downer is that the sonographer wrote in my notes that the visibility was poor due to high maternal BMI but it's all true, just makes me feel guilty. Baby seems spot on though so I just need to stay nice and healthy now. Went to pregnancy yoga this morning which I'm going to make a regular event.

Kittenkatzen Fri 03-May-13 18:51:30

Evening ladies, congrats on all the good scan news! Interesting to hear about the anterior placentas corresponding with people not feeling too much movement - I'm feeling loads of movement, and the sonographer on Tuesday did say that my placenta was against the back wall so I guess that must make a big difference then.

Interesting stuff from the physio class, not sure what the other people on the train would think if I started stuffing a towel behind my back for my 90min commute though.....that said, I've seen stranger..! So are birkies good or bad, I'm a bit confused - they have moulded footbeds but does that count as arch support? Please say good, I live in my birkies in summer!

emma I've had the pulled muscle pain across my bump too, especially if I stand for too long. I've assumed it's maybe the muscles starting to separate?

Is anyone else getting odd reactions from non-pg friends/colleagues about their decision to drink/not drink alcohol whilst pregnant? I'm in the not drinking at all camp, and have had some very strange sideways looks and kind of eye-rolly oh she's being a martyr type vibes from people who have asked. I'm always perfectly polite and just say "no thank you I'm not drinking at the moment", and if pressed explain that I just don't really miss it so I'm quite happy to not drink (completely true btw, I have no negative opinion at all towards ladies who do have the occasional drink, it's just a personal choice). I guess I just think it's a bit weird that other people care either way really confused Anyone else had similar experiences from either side?

JammyTummy Fri 03-May-13 19:04:21

Kitten I think that it is so not anybody's business, particularly as you aren't pushing your opinion on anybody! I still have the occasional glass of wine/ fizz but it would never occur to me to get judgy with anybody else! I really don't know what it is pregnant women that gives people the impression that they can get all up close and personal! Make your own!

Sorry... End of rant hmm

Kittenkatzen Fri 03-May-13 21:55:26

Well exactly jammy, why do they even care?! It's so weird confused

fl0b0t Fri 03-May-13 22:27:47

Bit behind.sorry!
derpress sounds like spd?
Re: shoes... I get so stressed when people don't wear proper shoes! Ballet pumps etc are so unsupportive. I'm in my granny walking sandals and blissfully comfy smile

Scan yesterday went great (bar grumpy sonographer!). All well but baby has a big head, big tummy, short legs! Mum and dad are tall and slim! Doh!

Baby is moving so so much. Was head down at the scan and about 11pm it decided to turn 90 degrees so it was lateral across my tummy and Kick for 15mins, then squirmed 180 degrees and kicked my other side. Today my bump shape changed and freaked me out, there was a hard small round lump.above my belly button for about half an hour. In the bath now and actually saw some kicks! I'm only 20 +3 today!

Love the kicks but its Making me v nauseous and uncomfy already! Anyone getting serious wriggling and bump shape changes and weird stuff? :s

fl0b0t Fri 03-May-13 22:30:46

Ps wish I hadn't mentioned mat pay, I'm feeling jealous of you lot with more than smp and jealousy is unlike me!

mantra I love my job

flipflump Fri 03-May-13 22:34:17

I've had this too!! It's not up to anyone else what you do and don't choose to do. I haven't had a drop and like you say, don't miss it. Why should I then force a drink down? My (childless) SIL told me a little alcohol was good for you during pregnancy. I asked for the medical papers on that one!!!! I've also had to use the excuse of booze giving me heartburn just now. Why should we even need an excuse?! I know DH would be disappointed if I did have a drink ( really don't want one) and its his baby too, do his opinion would count.

kimjayne Fri 03-May-13 23:18:13

I know.what u mean about the unwanted opinions and dissapriving looks re drinks etc! I went to an awards party this week with work. I decided to wear my pumps to and from the venue but I slipped on my (reduced) Kurt Geiger heels for during the event. My boss actually called me 'Amanda Holden' Coz of my decision to wear heels. But I'm only 5,4 in height so felt stupid in flats.

CharlW1 Sat 04-May-13 00:02:41

I know what you mean about the drinking but then I think when you're pregnant everyone feels they have a right to express their opinion on all sorts of subjects - without any thought on how it makes you feel - from drinking to non drinking, to exercise or not, to what food you eat and how much, what shoes you buy or even how you feel in general.
I went home from work on Monday as I felt exhausted and had the return of nausea - cue my boss gave birth to her son 20 years a go so obviously knows everything about pregnancy saying that it was highly unusual that I was feeling ill at this stage when I had felt well the last few weeks. Obviously I know from you guys that symptoms come and go and it's nothing to worry about. I wouldn't have been so bothered but I haven't had 1 day off work yet and when I did go home on Monday - after a lie down, I carried on working again!

Feel better for that rant now blush

frogchops Sat 04-May-13 05:12:36

Oh charl that actually made me mad!! I had one day off in feb with sheer knackeredness after not sleeping due to heartburn. I was told that 'you just don't get heartburn' until the third trimester and to take more responsibility for what I eat! I've had it everyday since but now I know what triggers it and can sleep. Was just unexpected so early at 8 weeks! I've even been told that my sickness record (I had another week off in match due to actually not being able to walk no less!!) is not going to look good if I have even one more day off in this pregnancy so j should probably use holiday if I'm Ill. Grrrrr.

Good to hear the scan went well Fl0
. Am impressed that u can tell exactly what the baby is up to already! I'm feeling lots of movement & when I get the hard kicks I know where it's feet are but I tend to always feel them in the same sort of place (maybe less blubber there?). Maybe I'll get more of an idea what's going on when I see the scan....wait is nearly over as it's on weds!

Re: drinking, I mostly get disapproval/eye rolling because of my decision to drink (a lot of my friends were t-total for there pg's). But I'm very aware of units so mostly just stick to 1 drink & DH has always been very 'pro' me having a drink- i figure it's his baby too.... Only one person was rude enough to come straight out & ask me why I would do anything that might put my baby at risk! My response: this is just one of many risks I'm taking every day, along with flying, driving, crossing the road etc. but they're all calculated risks & as a parent you will always find something to feel guilty about as u strive for a perfection that is not possible. One of my colleagues has an 18 yr old said, 'well you're right about that, I feel guilty every day for something'. That seemed to shut her up! As ever, it seems that no matter what decision u make in pregnancy someone, somewhere will disagree....and then feel the need to inform u!

Dorita75 Sat 04-May-13 06:40:00

frogchops Your work have made me so mad! How dare they, bloody cheek. And people who think they're experts because they've had children, everyone is different so less of the stupid comments from them would be good!

My hormones are making me really feisty, before I've even finished a thought the words are out there....whether it's someone jumping a queue, walking 'in my way' or just poor DP & family getting sarcastic or narky responses to things, that's when it's not tears...... It's nuts!

Still no movement here so can't comment on that, the odd bubble when I think 'was that one?' Can't wait for it to start smile

frogchops Sat 04-May-13 07:32:05

Had the strangest dream that I was feeling baby move in bed. In the dream I told DP to feel it too. It was so real I'm wondering if it actually happened!

KamikazeeKid Sat 04-May-13 09:04:07

Ouchy ouch ouch!
Seems spd has kicked in here...I actually think my fanjo is going to fall off...

Anyone had physio or support for spd ir pgp?? I got it so late last time it was too late to do anything about it....I can't imagine another 18 weeks of this!!!!

Going back to childcare vouchers conversation. ...does anyone know if you can opt out if leaving for maternity? I thought smp couldn't be touched by things like pensions and childcare but I paid pension contributions throughout my smp last time??? Not at my request I should add????

flipflump Sat 04-May-13 09:44:16

Frogchops, this little fish woke me for the first time last night. The kicks are getting much stronger. Maybe it wasn't a dream smile DH still can't feel them but there is a layer of blubber and my placenta is anterior.

Dorita, hormones are crazy things!! I used to be a calm, considerate driver. If anyone dreams of pulling out in front of me, cutting me up etc, they get a mouthful!!! Must be the protective instinct kicking in!!! wink

RunningBear78 Sat 04-May-13 10:22:16

On the drinking front, I don't drink, not even a little when I am not pregnant, neither does dh, but people always comment and find it really odd, I don't really know why. I just don't really like the taste of alcohol and much prefer Ribena! Seems to be a thing everyone feels they can comment on, adding a bump just makes it worse!

I'm pretty sure employers can't make you take leave if you feel unwell during pregnancy, they just have to suck it up. Id you are worried, get yr midwife to sign you off or something. I've ended up having a few odd days off work now and then for headaches, tiredness and yesterday as I have a stinking horrible cold.feel very lucky to be working with ladies who recently had babies so symptoms are all very recent for them and they know how different everyone is. Mum was less supportive, v confused as to why I was ill now as she never was with me, bloody superwoman!

RunningBear78 Sat 04-May-13 10:22:35

On the drinking front, I don't drink, not even a little when I am not pregnant, neither does dh, but people always comment and find it really odd, I don't really know why. I just don't really like the taste of alcohol and much prefer Ribena! Seems to be a thing everyone feels they can comment on, adding a bump just makes it worse!

I'm pretty sure employers can't make you take leave if you feel unwell during pregnancy, they just have to suck it up. Id you are worried, get yr midwife to sign you off or something. I've ended up having a few odd days off work now and then for headaches, tiredness and yesterday as I have a stinking horrible cold.feel very lucky to be working with ladies who recently had babies so symptoms are all very recent for them and they know how different everyone is. Mum was less supportive, v confused as to why I was ill now as she never was with me, bloody superwoman!

SGJ Sat 04-May-13 11:59:31

Frog, I was under the impression that any sickness during pregnancy doesn't count, ie, you're pregnant, not sick. It shouldn't be part of your SIL days for the year... anyone else heard that?
I can count one one hand the total number of units of alcohol I've had since being pregnant, I've now decided to stick to Becks Blue and found alcohol free Koppaberg cider in Tesco this morning, so I'm set for summer! You can also make non-alcoholic Pimms by mixing 2 litres of lemonade with 2 teaspoon of balsamic vinegar - with all the fruit/cucumber/mint added in too, it tastes virtually identical! (Slimming World trick!)

SGJ Sat 04-May-13 12:03:00

Oh, just Googled quickly and it seems that sickness during pregnancy does 'count' but should be recorded separately as it must not be used to influence the outcome of any disciplinary actions, redundancy or dismissal.

JammyTummy Sat 04-May-13 12:06:07

Just wanted to share that I've discovered Red Herring at Debenhams maternity stuff- it's really cheap and cheerful and has some lovely basics (I ordered a few long sleeve t's) with lovely cuts.
As I'm quite small, I've been struggling to find tops that for nicely and don't break the bank, these are brill! ordered a couple in the post a few days ago and they came today, yay!

JammyTummy Sat 04-May-13 12:07:19

Sorry, tops that fit nicely.

SGJ Sat 04-May-13 12:08:44
fl0b0t Sat 04-May-13 14:41:15

Kammy sounds great! I found a mentally huge mothercare the other day which had some nice gear in! I really need to stop buying thigns for me now! Had to buy dresses for the weddings etc, and didn't really plan to buy much at all!

Just been out for an epic 9 mile walk for fun (husband at a stag do) and now I think I'll go to homebase and buy some "nesting" things to make the house look nice! smile

Creamtea1 Sat 04-May-13 15:29:50

Typed long message re gender scan which has gone!

Creamtea1 Sat 04-May-13 15:31:30

Essentially - have booked private gender scan for weds, no one knows apart from DH and no one will know the result apart from me. Still wont take word for it after all the stories I've read on here!

juniper9 Sat 04-May-13 16:44:59

My scan isn't for 2 and a half weeks still! Feel very behind. I'm 19 weeks tomorrow so my scan it as 21+3, which is hospital policy.

Is anyone else suffering from low blood pressure? I saw a cardiologist consultant the other day (as my heart beat is nearly always over 100, and goes as high as 150!) and he told me to eat more salt. So I'm lying in bed with a bag of pistachio nuts. Such a hard life!

That's exciting Creamtea, can't remember why u didn't find out at 20 weeks? Was it not possible or have u changed ur mind?

frogchops Sat 04-May-13 17:27:49

Have had no cravings as such up til now but I must say that I've been very 'see it an want it' since the beginning. Even just hearing about stuff makes me feel like I need it! Such as whoever mentioned fruit pastilles in the early days??!!, banana yazoo (was on the tv), cheesecake (after a lengthy soft cheese debate), jacket potatoes (after smelling them in town), cheese tuc biscuits (someone else mentioned those!), mcflurrys, haribo, and now pistachio nuts! Thanks juniper!!

Ooh, cheese tuc biscuits....would it be too cruel to ask DH to pop out when he's cooking the dinner?

Creamtea1 Sat 04-May-13 18:11:08

Ready I just changed my mind! but I am adament that no one else will be told, not even that we know - so to everyone else outside mumsnet the answer to the standard 'do you know what you're having' remains as 'no' or 'a baby' depending on what mood I'm in smile

Creamtea1 Sat 04-May-13 18:12:23

Also I would go to great lengths for jam roly poly and custard right now

Dorita75 Sat 04-May-13 18:26:09

creamtea I've just come back from afternoon tea for my friend's birthday - small sandwiches, mini cakes (including mini battenburg!) and gorgeous scones with clotted cream and jam. I feel like a rolypoly but it was lovely.

I'm also a bit like you frogchops if someone mentions something I want it. Someone in work mentioned fishcakes this week and I had to get them for me tea that night!!

Creamtea1 Sat 04-May-13 18:52:22

Oooh dorita now you've done it! Scones with jam and clotted cream...mmm drool...my ultimate favourite thing smile (hence user name!)

fl0b0t Sat 04-May-13 18:59:16

Mmmm I do want a cream tea most times I see your name creamtea :-)

Husband is out at a stag do tonight, getting a lift home from London about 2am. Bless him he's even set up the spare bed so as not to wake me up :-) I'm pleased he's out as I've made an epic fish pie with butternut squash and cheese topping! And I'm going to watch something really trashy on telly :-)

kipsonline Sat 04-May-13 22:07:56

We are in the peaks this w/e with a lovely group of friends and have spent a day cycling, swimming, playing rounders and sardines with all the kids! I have just woken up in bed with DS2 after getting in to give him a nighttime cuddle over 2 hours ago...argh! The lodge is now silent so I guess the others are down the road in our other lodge drinking wine....leaving me with 5 kids!! Am feeling v un rocknroll contemplating getting into my pjs and taking my magazine back to bed!!

kipsonline Sat 04-May-13 22:08:48

And now I NEED a scone too!!

CheeseStrawCraving Sun 05-May-13 00:21:17

So creamtea, the question is, will we all be kept in suspenders suspense too, or will you let us know??

Kittenkatzen Sun 05-May-13 01:01:54

Ahh fl0b0t enjoy having the house to yourself tonight, I love it every now and again too! Impressed at your fish pie for one - I always end up with an enormous bowl of pasta and some chocolate buttons in that situation grin

Dorita75 Sun 05-May-13 06:49:16

I love being pregnant for so many reasons, but being able to treat myself with lovely food and nights in with trashy tv, completely guilt free that I should be doing something more worthwhile rate highly on my list!

frogchops Sun 05-May-13 07:51:23

Tuesdays are my night alone and I love them. I always end up with macaroni cheese as DP hates it.

I dreamt last night that I waited at home while DP went to fetch baby from the hosp. (If only it was gona be this easy!) he bought him home and he was huuuge!! He was very cute and blonde! But I put him on our scales and he was 17lb 1!!! That two dreams of massive babies I've had confused

frogchops Sun 05-May-13 08:48:05

Have just looked at a site that mentioned a baby wishlist for you to link to things you'd like for baby or yourself (I suppose incase you have a baby shower or something) for friends and family to browse if they're thinking of buying a gift. I'd never heard of this before but then searched and found a few threads on forums about how rude and crass people think it is. What does anyone here think? I'd never even thought of it and I duno what I think really!!

jennimoo Sun 05-May-13 08:53:12

DHs family do birthday and Christmas lists so I do that but not sure i would with a baby. Although you can always make the list for yourself and if anyone asks what to get you point them to the list...

I've just told the GPs what they're allowed to get. It's DC2 so hardly need anything!

frogchops Sun 05-May-13 09:10:13

Yes that sounds a better idea. I wouldn't want anyone to feel obliged to buy anything! One set of GPs are buying our pram so I'm very grateful for that. I suspect there'll be some knitting goin on too!!

Creamtea1 Sun 05-May-13 09:26:33

Cheese of course I will let this gang know smile
Quite excited about the scan now, it was only £60 too

MammaGnomes Sun 05-May-13 09:38:21

Frog I am so pleased you have brought this up!! My mum is throwing me a baby shower (she's v excited) and a few people have suggested I do a list - John Lewis do one that is similar to a wedding list!
I'm rubbish at asking for things at birthdays etc i always say suprise me and end up with stuff I would never use!! So for that reason I think it's great however part of me still feels cheeky about expecting people to buy us gifts! It's a hard one

andadietcoke Sun 05-May-13 09:49:53

My SiL had a JL gift list when she had her first 8 years ago. As she was the first person I knew having a baby I thought that was completely normal. I've never known anyone do it since. We have a list, but it's for us, and for budgeting purposes only, and then DH's parents have given us money towards a buggy. If anyone asks what to get us (if everything continues to be okay) then I think we'll ask for the things we'll need lots of eg sleepsuits and vests.

Kittenkatzen Sun 05-May-13 10:43:30

Hmmm yeah it's a difficult one, I can see why people find it useful and don't tend to bat an eyelid at people having wedding lists. Wouldn't occur to me to do one for a baby though, and I probably would raise a passing eyebrow if I'm honest. Can't say it particularly offends me to the point of some of the other threads frog mentioned though - I mean, it's still personal choice as to whether anyone buys off it right, nobody's being held to ransom! smile

ION we have woken up to a gas leak this morning....we rent our house and have called the agency's emergency number and left a voicemail, but no response yet after 45 mins so far hmmangry

TripleRock Sun 05-May-13 10:46:45

Hi everyone!

Been off MN for a couple of weeks, so it's been lovely to catch up with everyone's news.

Ended up having a bit of a tumble down a slope on Friday night, and although all seems fine, hospital MWs gave me an extra anti d injection just to be on the safe side.

Anyone else rh- ?

jennimoo Sun 05-May-13 11:31:44

Hope you're ok after your tumble triple. I was talking about anti d to DH in the car on Friday (after a rather hard bit of breaking) and was reminding him of the fact I'd need it if i had an accident from about now but couldn't remember exactly when from.

badguider Sun 05-May-13 11:42:22

Frog - i'm all for a basic list that has things we still don't have yet on it but I wouldn't take a list with a specific shop or with specific brands on it because of so much stuff coming 2nd hand or borrowed (I believe in re-using as much stuff as possible, no idea if we'll have a second baby so this reduces waste and - even more importantly - clutter).
If something we borrow or are given 2nd hand turns out to not really suit us (e.g. pram has small wheels and we usually walk on rough surfaces) then I'll try it for a bit then pass it back/on and get something that does suit.

Triple I am rh- (O-) but so far luckily no mishaps. I have a bit of a bump but it's nothing like enough to affect my balance yet or get in the way if I were to fall so I am not too nervous yet. Unfortunately DH doens't know his blood type so don't know if baby could be +ve or not (if father is -ve too then baby will be and it's not such a worry).

jennimoo Sun 05-May-13 12:02:25

I think even if your bumps small you should contact MW if you knock it badly or have even a small car accident (seat belt can cause bleeding inside...) so you can have an extra anti d, although you get a couple of shots at various points in pg anyway. I've got my first at 28 weeks this time.
DD was tested as being -ve at birth so I didn't need another shot then.

badguider Sun 05-May-13 14:05:03

Yes, sorry for any confusion jennimoo i didn't mean i wouldn't but what i mean is that because my bump is small i can't really 'knock' it - it's protected by my ribs and hip bones.

even at 22 weeks it'll be a while longer before my seatbelt doesn't mainly sit across my hip bones too.

[by the way, i am not super-skinny, my hips and ribs are just expanding with my torso smile]

fl0b0t Sun 05-May-13 15:23:39

triple I'm rh neg too, did I miss something about needing extra anti d injections if you have an accident?

I think that a baby list makes perfect sense! I try v hard to buy practical pressies for friends with new babies (with strict instructions to exchange it if they want) but I know that lots if people just buy an ugly plastic toy or 0-3 baby grow which isn't necessarily helpful.

CharlW1 Sun 05-May-13 16:01:42

I'm rh neg and have to gave the anti d at28 weeks but was told if I have a bleed or a bang (from 16 weeks onwards) that I will get it too.

Re. Lists - I have been to some great baby showers and I think lists are really good if someone asks what to get you but I don't think I'd be putting the lists in with the invite as it can seem a bit cheeky.

badguider Sun 05-May-13 17:12:33

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Rhesus-disease/Pages/Causes.aspx

Rh- info above.

I have a card from the Scottish blood service to keep in my wallet in case I'm in a big accident.
Basically they inject you if there's any chance the baby has bled as your body will take against the +ve blood. They also inject you before birth as your blood and the baby's blood will likely mix then and you will make antibodies that will still be there if you get pregnant again.

badguider Sun 05-May-13 17:13:01
frogchops Sun 05-May-13 17:15:14

Forgot to say that I booked a meeting at work the other day when some fool pipes up and asks if I'll have finished work to have the baby by then. I wouldn't mind but we booked it for June 25th! I wish! She then told me I was massive for 20 weeks and she looked like me at full term. Thanks for that. :-/

CharlW1 Sun 05-May-13 17:26:33

Great link badguider I have anti cw in my blood to and have to carry a card around wIth me that says I am rh neg and have anti cw. I got the anti cw from having a miscarriage last year when mine and the babies blood mixed. I just need extra blood tests and the consultant is keeping an eye on me but he said to me it is just one of those things and both me and baby should be fine, although she will be more susceptible to jaundice when she is born.

CharlW1 Sun 05-May-13 17:30:57

frog with that and them saying about pregnancy related sickness - the people at your work sound delightful! hmm
I was told by someone I hadn't seen for ages 'God you are going to be massive' I was stumped at what to say in response.

frogchops Sun 05-May-13 17:43:50

My manager is actually very nice, but is still my manager and has a bit of a hidden agenda in making sure work stuff will be fine when I've gone...but everyone else (45 other women) are vile. A good 85% of them I wouldn't pee on if they were on fire are really horrible people. At least 5/6 haven't even acknowledged my pregnancy let alone congratulated me, 3/4 of them refused to help me carry something down the stairs and one even suggested I'd be ok to carry a microwave (!!) on my own downstairs (she had a back she said). This of course has nothing to do with the fact that she's a horrible, fat, nasty piece of work.

KamikazeeKid Sun 05-May-13 18:34:26

charl my response would be...well im pregnant whats your excuse?? Obviously not going to work on a skinny person though...

I have learnt well from my previous pregnancy about witty or cutting come backs...after all its the only time you can use hormones as an excuse if needed!

Worst thing I'm getting at moment is - oh u r pregnant? But you've only just returned to work and you'll be off within a year??

Amazingly that comment is voiced by managers. ..I always say oh I guess what you meant to say is congratulations! !!!

Drives me mad as I had such heartache ttc-ing for ds1 and dc2 was always a question mark I feel do lucky but these manager's make me feel awful.

When pregnant with ds1 I was repeatedly told by one lady that I needed more checks due bump size...im exactly same size with this dc and she tells me im fine. ...[rolls eyes!] everyone either turns into a medical expert or a serial gropper....

I was always told to try bursting into tears with unwanted medical advice as usually throws the person and gropers? Grope them back.... I've tried that and it works a treat. [GRIN]

KamikazeeKid Sun 05-May-13 18:35:45

Excuse typos and grammar - speed typing on phone!

herewego2 Sun 05-May-13 21:09:15

Hello, first time for typing on here, though I have been reading for a bit. I think I'm really lucky to be in same group as you guys as you are all rather top. As for these people who can't say anything nice, I just don't know what's wrong with them. Surely 'congratulations' with a big smile is about right? My boss asked me if it was planned! Though I am married and this is my second child, I did feel like saying that it was from a terrible mistake of a one night stand.... just to see what he said. As for size of bump... they can all go take a hike ladies. Bump size is going to be as individual as our glorious babies are. Feel better for that.
Anybody else starting to feel a bit grumpy when deep down they know they wouldn't usually?

KamikazeeKid Sun 05-May-13 23:08:04

Welcome here we go!

I keep getting really short with DH and know thats just hormones as very laid back usually. He's not dealing with pregnancy well as last time - I had no urgent cravings, bodily complaints or temper issues!!

My biggest regret was not attempting to pretend I was suffering as this time I'm suffering with my back, pelvis, hormonal outbreaks with a short fuse, am emotional wreck etc etc!! Ha ha so my advice to anyone on dc1 is - milk it a little even if you are feeling great as it may bite you in the bum when it comes to dc2! Hubby thinks I should be the same again even though I have a toddler, full time work, a bump and an annoying husband to contend with..... grin

CheeseStrawCraving Sun 05-May-13 23:14:30

Welcome herewego2! I think we're all rather ace on here, open minded and friendly! Frog your work sounds awful, I'm dying to know what you do for a living now! People have been making lovely comments to me about giving birth, notably because we are both fairly tall that I will be giving bIrth to a giant child and that it will hurt like hell... Ok so we have already been told baby is large by mw but really no need to comment on the labour part, trying v hard not to concentrate on that part myself so anybody else bringing it up can go away. Ooh ranty pants, sorry!

CheeseStrawCraving Sun 05-May-13 23:15:52

Ha, great advice kamikazee, have just asked DH to get me more water as v comfy in bed!

herewego2 Sun 05-May-13 23:28:49

Funny that CheeseStraw, as I get comments as I'm 5'1'' that I wont be able to 'carry it as well'. We must all just trust that our bodies have sorted it it all out. Have never had a Cheese Straw and will get one tomorrow.
Kamikazee, that all sounds very familiar. How much sleep I get is becoming vital, speaking of which I'm off to bed, night!

redandyellowandpinkandgreen Mon 06-May-13 07:16:38

Morning! My toddler seems to be waking at 5.30am every day now, that's pretty hard going. I feel constantly exhausted.

I'm 20 weeks today! So happy to have reached the halfway point....and only 2 more days til my scan...can't come quick enough! :-)

Fozziebearmum2b Mon 06-May-13 08:14:31

Welcome herewego, I've had the same people asking if its planned-what an unbelievable personal question blush I've recently got married and people seem v interested and like to quote back to me how many months it took me....cheek!

Congrats on 20 wks-I'm a couple of days off and have my scan on Thurs. Dh and I have always said we won't find out the sex, but I'm starting to crack! It'll be hard to think that me and him won't know but the sonographer prob will and not sure how I'll not ask! I don't really want to know-would rather the surprise and Dh doesn't so we'll wait....I think smile

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 08:35:47

We are coming to the final few scans!! Exciting! I have my consultant appt on thurs and I think I get another scan at 28 weeks (or is it 30?) due to high downs risk. Luckily the nhs dismiss any private tests and so still treat me as high risk.

ION DP and I are trying to think of something to do for my 30th at end August. I know I'll be huge by then so might be worth planning something for 2/3 weeks before. I'm thinking going away somewhere as it will be our last as a twosome! I. This country tho, I think as I'm unsure about flying that late on and cost is obviously an issue! Any ideas?

They won't let u fly that late even if u wanted to frog. Perhaps a nice spa break instead?

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 08:51:54

Interesting story about how our bodies adjust to giving birth regardless if we are big or small (or in this case, the bodies of ponies and horses):: scientists carried out a research to see whether having big (in our case read 'tall') parents means big foals. They found that if both mummy and daddy horse were big, baby horse came out really big. If daddy was a pony but mummy was a big Clydesdale for example, the baby again comes out XL, but and here's the trick, if the daddy is a Clydesdale but mummy is a little pony the baby comes out really small to allow for good birth and no damage to mum, but then grows at an increased rate to its peers to catch up with daddy size!

Mother Nature is looking after us smile

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 08:53:56

Do mentioned centre parcs as their spa is lovely. But most of it I can't do, most massages are out, steam rooms are out and I couldn't have anyone touch my feet! Plus the activities don't really lend themselves to heavily pregnant ladies :-/

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 08:57:27

Haha jammy I love that analogy! Both DP and I are ponies....what happens then?! My mum is a pony too, I was only 5lb 9 born. DP was 8lb 1. I'd rather push a 5lber out!

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 08:58:26

frog I think we're going to have a little break about july/ August time somewhere in the uk too. We're thinking of taking the dogs and going for a road trip up to north of Scotland. We did it two years ago and it was really fun!

I'm going to be 6 months next Tuesday! I cannot believe it. Not long to go now!

Creamtea1 Mon 06-May-13 09:23:43

On the baby size front, I'm 5 ft 6 and DH is 6ft - I've had an 8lb er and an 8lb 4 so far... Hoping this one doesn't crack the 9lb barrier! Although I suppose if you have a 9lb and not a 5lb baby that's 4lb you don't have to diet away wink

Creamtea1 Mon 06-May-13 09:37:34

And on that front..have done my weekly weigh in - another 2lbs on! Which makes 23lbs on at nearly 23 weeks...gah..good job sept - Xmas is wintery clothes and good for covering up post baby fat!
Therefore I retain the weight gain crown grin

CharlW1 Mon 06-May-13 09:48:34

I nearly joining you creamtea with the weight gain crown - I'm at 22lb and coming up to 23 weeks! As you said at least we can cover up over xmas!

Last minute hols in this country - I love Cornwall (me and OH are just on our way back after a lovely weekend) or the Lake District. I love going to a place in the Lakes called Troutbeck and an old traditional inn called the Queens Head - ithas 4 poster beds, is very relaxing and does the most amazing food - it's fairly near Windermere. Haven't been for a couple of years but is worth a look up.

Fozziebearmum2b Mon 06-May-13 10:54:10

Aww love Windermere! So beautiful :-)

We've just come back from Cornwall (St Ives) first proper holiday in UK since I was about 10 (other than weekends away) and loved it! Cream teas almost every day which lo loved -kept wriggling away. So lovely and relaxing def recommend it if anyone fancies a relaxing break in UK pre baby smile

badguider Mon 06-May-13 11:05:38

I've put on 20lbs at 22+4 weeks so it looks like there are loads of us at about that point.
Interestingly about 8lbs of that went on in the first six weeks when I had a massive hormonal bloating and boob growing phase and it's been far more steady since then.

badguider Mon 06-May-13 11:06:56

oh and having not felt much movement at all (anterior placenta), went to see Ironman3 last night and the wee boy wriggled like mad through all the loud bits!
hope i haven't done his hearing any harm but i guess it must be muffled in there - maybe it was more the vibrations from the massive dolby sound system?

ZombiesAreClammyDodgers Mon 06-May-13 11:19:30

By the way I got something called the Clippasafe Bump Belt off amazon. It keeps the belt off the bump and especially is quite useful when driving.
Just thought I'd share smile

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 11:37:02

I don't get this weight gain lark.... Since bfp I've put on about 9/10 pounds. But I'm huge. How does that work?

Cornwall sounds good, just hope wether will be....any suggestions of where to stay?

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 12:16:00

badguider I read recently that buba's hearing is quite well developed by now, and that they can get startled by loud noises and give you a good kick for it, however, I don't think there's any way you've done it any harm!

My baby has been doing this new fun thing whereby it kicks me right in the bladder hmm. Strange sensation, almost like someone squeezes it for a quick second from the inside!

I've put on 11lbs at 23 weeks, and thought I was doing really well given original weight/ height until I looked at one of those daft weight calculator charty things which claims I'm over my limit. Sod it I say!

Creamtea1 Mon 06-May-13 13:24:33

Jammy dont worry about it, I'm 7lb over my recommended limit too and I was getting so stressed about it but have just started to accept there's nothing I can do aside from keep active and eat healthily as best I can. I'm certainly not eating anywhere near as much as in my first 2 pregnancies so that in itself is a good thing. Having lost 3 stone in about 8 months doing low carb prior to getting pregnant I know I can do it again if necessary - infact will probably be that same 3 stone! Am still wearing a lot of my usual clothes, or a size up (my fatter clothes smile) so telling myself it can't be too bad!

Fozziebearmum2b Mon 06-May-13 13:36:07

Frog-we stayed in a little place called Hayle which is about 10 mins in the car from St Ives (beautiful fishing port town). Went to Padstow too (Rick Stein country) which looks lovely too-and had lovely fish n chips! smile

juniper9 Mon 06-May-13 14:19:37

Quick panic on my part... has anyone else knocked their bump and then had pain afterwards?

Last night my 'D'P grabbed me from behind for an impromptu cuddle, and ended up whacking me across my bump with his forearm. It was quite hard and made me lose my footing.

During the night I've had a dull ache on my right side. No cramps and no bleeding, but it's still worried me. I don't want to call my midwife if I'm just being neurotic over nothing... sad

Kittenkatzen Mon 06-May-13 14:52:38

juniper are you feeling movement yet? If so has it changed/slowed at all? I'm sure everything's fine, the baby is pretty well protected in there - maybe you've bruised yourself though? I think you should call the midwife for reassurance anyway, a worried mummy isn't good for baby either smile

Oooh frog what about a nice country house hotel in the Lakes/Cornwall/lovely place of choice! Somewhere with a yummy restaurant and maybe a spa (float in the pool, a nice facial, manicure) and some nice gardens to wander in...or if you fancy the lakes I can recommend a really lovely B&B right by Bassenthwaite lake between Keswick and Cockermouth smile

jammy that's really interesting about the foal sizes. Although I am slightly bricking it now as both DH and I are 5'10" and we've already been told our baby is a chubster! confused

On the weight gain front, Ive put on exactly a stone at 21+4, I think it's been pretty steady gain though so I'm not too worried yet!

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 15:26:45

juniper I would not hesitate to call the MW, that's what they're there for, and they never tire of tellin me that if I'm at all concerned to call rather than worry (although I'm sure that your little person is absolutely fine).

CharlW1 Mon 06-May-13 16:34:18

Frog there are list of lovely places to go in Cornwall - I love St Ives - although just outside of St Ives there is a little place called Lelant which is lovely. As Fozzie says Hayle is a great place too. Also I love Falmouth, Padstein (Padstow) and Fowy. My parents live in Cornwall (although we are originally from the Midlands) and I just love going down to see them - it completely feels like you're getting away from all the stress of everything - even if I just go for a long weekend smile

Hi all, think it has been ages since I last posted ... Nothing going on really! We went out for a bike ride today, I'm thoroughly exhausted! Did about 12 miles along canal path, really pretty but quite bumpy and narrow - and I am not your most proficient of cyclists! grin I gave myself a bash in the fanjo (not deliberately!) when trying to get back on the saddle after push/waddling over a bridge. Ow!

Bump has been wriggling since I have been back and relaxing in the garden, off to have a bath later so hope I won't have too achey legs/back tomorrow.

Bit late perhaps but juniper yes I would call if you have any pain or noticed change in movements. Hope it is nothing though.

And welcome herewego!

Dorita75 Mon 06-May-13 17:47:32

Welcome herewego2 Lovely to have you with us grin

Anywhere down south Frog for most chance of sunshine and warmth!! We're going to the Isle of Wight for a week at the end of May (from Liverpool) and I can't wait!!

Anyone having trouble finding out how much maternity pay you'll get? There's loads of info about SMP (which I could say in my sleep) and work have told me how much I'll get each month gross, but were 'too busy' to work out the tax and NI deductions, so the info is pretty useless. Luckily I've got a friend who works for HM tax who I've asked for some help but I think it's ridiculous that there isn't a simple guide to understanding tax and NI for maternity pay (and I've googled a lot!!!) Am I missing something?

ION, been outside a lot today and have very pink arms and chest, true that we pregnant ladies get sunburnt more easily!

Kittenkatzen Mon 06-May-13 18:53:32

dorita I am feeling your sunburn pain - I have properly roasted my lower legs and upper arms this afternoon, ouch sad

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 18:56:42

Thanks for all the Cornwall advice! Am thinking of somewhere pretty central to 'stuff' as I'm not the best at walking places now let alone at 30 + weeks! As long as there's something to see and lovely places to eat I'm happy. Thought about haven park type thing but worried it might be v expensive as its still school hols, but then I'm guessing everywhere will be :-/ lovely country hotel sounds nice too, I'd love a facial, manicure etc.

I recommend st. Ives if you like dining out frog...loads of restaurants & lots of little art galleries/ jewellery shops to poke about in. We stayed at blue skies b&b last summer and it was lovely! Beaches are gorgeous too.

herewego2 Mon 06-May-13 19:44:49

Thanks for warm welcomes! CharlW1 I've been to Troutbeck and the Queens Head and really agree, its some of the best food I''ve ever had and the whole area is gorgeous.
Jammy Tummy, loving the horsey info.
Gorgeous day today, just right for pregnant women.

Fozziebearmum2b Mon 06-May-13 19:46:44

Dorita-I work in HR (thankfully not payroll!!) but find it difficult for anyone in payroll to work out tax/NI deductions at work as it takes a while (the tax calculation depends on your tax code and this may change between now and when your mat leave starts so any estimate may be outdated so they're probably reluctant to commit to anything).

A quick calculation is your (gross pay for the month / 3) x 2. As if you're on a normal tax code (ie under the lower earnings limit) then your tax/NI comes to around a third of your gross earnings. It's not exact but will give you a pretty good idea.

Obviously after April you'll get a new tax allowance for the new financial year and as maternity leave is pretty poor hmm then you should get more of your gross pay.

Hope this helps smile

CharlW1 Mon 06-May-13 20:26:31

So glad someone else has been to the Queens Head in Troutbeck herewego it really is such a lovely part of the wotkd send agree the food is amazing!

Really wish I had the rest of the week off to relax - have had such a lovely bank holiday.

Though bit worried about bump movements - yesterday I had some really strong kicks but today hardly anything. Hoping I get some kicks later - I know it's completely normal but I'm such a worrier.

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 20:56:47

I've never been to St Ives and thought from all your descriptions it sounds lovely. Typed it into google map to see if maybe DH and I could maybe go there for our little uk break. Turns out its the single furthest away place in the uk to get to from Edinburgh. Cancel that plan!

frogchops Mon 06-May-13 20:59:44

Yes jammy its not a short hop! I'm in the midlands and I'll still have to beg DP to go that far!

JammyTummy Mon 06-May-13 20:59:52

Ps I ordered that book 'The Antenatal Group' that was getting advertised at the bottom of our thread. Looks like a good trashy chick lit book to take on holiday. Will report on whether its any good!

astroming Mon 06-May-13 23:03:44

Happy bank hol everyone! Not posted on for ages but im 20 weeks today too Readytosettle. And my scan is on Wednesday the same as yours...9:00am. Have been given the 23rd sept as my edd does that tie in with yours, it would be nice to have a buddy.

I love all this talk of Cornwall, off to Hayle on Saturday and already dreaming of the lovely boutique shops i can visit in St Ives now!

CheeseStrawCraving Mon 06-May-13 23:05:29

Re holiday stuff, we were given The Sun codes by a friend for booking a holiday for cheap, we've managed to get a week in July (mon to fri) for £90 for the two of us and puppy in a static caravan right on the beach in North Devon... DH can roll out of bed and surf, I can chill with some chick lit and walk the dog. Not bad for £45 each! Might be worth a try? Ps have got the codes if anyone wants them. Can pm them! Don't know what's left but there were hundreds of options around the country.

KamikazeeKid Mon 06-May-13 23:42:01

Out of interest my fellow low lying placenta mums. ... Have you had a previous section or a d&c? Was reading up on it today and didn't realise there was a link... I've had emcs and had to have a d&c following a mmc a couple of years ago.

astroming my edd is 23rd too & my scan is at 9am! We are indeed buddies :-)

CharlW1 Tue 07-May-13 06:00:22

Kami I had a d&c following an mmc lastyear! I had no idea of the connection with a low lying placenta - that's really interesting.

kimjayne Tue 07-May-13 07:20:47

It's funny you should all be talking about st ives. I've been trying to find a nice b&b around that area for a few days in July. I've never been to Cornwall. I don't suppose anyone knows a nice b&b near the centre?

frogchops Tue 07-May-13 07:43:04

Cheese. Those codes would be great please, I'm looking at stuff and realising that some if the places we just can't afford (or rather we could, but could probably get a week in Spain for the same price!!)

Just checking in and caught up. Just back from a wee holiday at bowness on Windermere and I agreed that its a lovely part of the country. Dd turned 1 when we were away so it was special.

It's a bit late but thanks for all the comments about having another DD, I'm feeling a lot better about it. I only have a brother and don't know what it's like to have a sister but I'm very close to my mum. She has 3 sisters and mil has 2 and they are both really excited as they know what it's like and how they'll grow up together etc.

I've been feeling lots of kicks and movement now for weeks and can see it when I'm lying flat on my back. Makes it feel more real as this baby was a bit of a surprise!!

flipflump Tue 07-May-13 08:17:50

I've woken up on my front this morning, now in a major panic that I've hurt baby. Can someone reassure me? I usually only feel movement in the evening (anterior placenta) and need a bit of reassurance. I've been so calm since my scan and got over worrying about everything, now I'm back to being a stress head!!! hmm

We spent the bank hol in London (we moved from London to the midlands last year) catching up with friends and visiting our usual haunts before baby arrives. It was so humid, I really struggled on the tube. Made me realise how much easier my life is now and how much harder it would be, being pregnant in London.

badguider Tue 07-May-13 08:43:00

flip - the antenatal physio talk I went to said don't worry about how you sleep unless it gives you pain or pins and needles. Front sleeping is fine all the way through if its comfortable and back sleeping can give you poor circulation in your legs and feel weird but if it doesn't then that's ok too. She said only worry about propping onto your left side if you're having problems with feeling comfortable and getting dizzy or if you're getting signs of poor circulation - swelling, cramp etc.

Fozziebearmum2b Tue 07-May-13 08:45:13

Flip-I keep waking up on my back with horrible pressure feeling in my tummy. Think it's my bodies way of waking me up when Im in a position baby doesn't like. Reckon if you'd hurt your baby your body would have woken you. Do you have any pain or anything else?

flipflump Tue 07-May-13 08:52:40

Thank you ladies, that is so helpful and good to hear. I can get on with my day now and stop worrying. I've not had any pain or discomfort, so I guess my body and baby were quite happy. I love mumsnet and having all you wonderful ladies to talk to!!!

Flip I sleeping mostly on my front with a leg up and did a large part of the way through my last pregnancy and everything was fine.

I wonder if this is restless leg or not, maybe you ladies can advise. It's a dull achey pain which is in my right leg at the top of my thigh at the back, like behind the bone. It sort of radiates down past my knee sometimes. I don't have it all the time and it feels like when you've been sitting in one position too long or if you'd been sitting on something like a toy or remote!

I've not got the midwife till the 23rd and wasn't sure if I should be doing anything about it or if it was even pregnancy related confused

Creamtea1 Tue 07-May-13 11:23:21

I am still in shock from 8.35am - one of the school mums said to my face that I 'definetly looked like a beached whale now' shockshockshock

JammyTummy Tue 07-May-13 11:28:37

Creamtea noooooooooooooo! That is outrageous shock

Creamtea1 Tue 07-May-13 11:35:16

The shame of it!! Feel like I need to cover up in baggy floaty numbers all over now to hide away! So glad of the summer holidays though so it's 6 less weeks to endure of such comments near the end..

Fozziebearmum2b Tue 07-May-13 12:05:16

Creamtea-I can't believe that someone has said that!! That's the rudest thing I've heard so far angry how on earth do you respond to that!

Some people are horrendous blush

astroming Tue 07-May-13 12:35:43

Oh creamtea thats horrendous, how dare people be so rude. Dont fret over it, i often find the people who make comments like that have 'issues'...with themselves.

Thats brill then ready best of luck for tomorrow then. I'm undecided on finding out the sex...already have a four year old girl, we are struggling for names we agree on tho so it may be a way to help us aling:-)

JammyTummy Tue 07-May-13 12:41:34

Creamtea I completely agree with astro. I don't mean this in any nasty way but maybe she is just desperate for a bump and can't have one, and seeing you pregnant just made her say the first nasty thing that came to mind. That sort of comment is just pure malice, rather than constructive/ reflecting the truth.

jemimahpuddleduck Tue 07-May-13 13:09:34

creamtea I can not believe someone would say that to you!! Don't feel you should cover up over one silly cow though from what I remember of your bump pic you look lovely.

ION I ordered the angel care monitor over the weekend and a manual Tommee tippee breast pump for a total of £79.19 I really recommend joining amazon family you get such great discounts taken off when you go to pay!

On the 9 day countdown until my holiday now, I'm off to Turkey. I'm another one who loves St Ives i live in Somerset so not too far a journey for me.

Creamtea1 Tue 07-May-13 13:57:15

Ah thanks ladies you have all made me feel better smile I do wonder about the issues thing, and will try to avoid her in future!
Scan (private spur of the moment one) tomorrow so that's cheered me up. Good luck to all the last few of us having hospital scans too

Kittenkatzen Tue 07-May-13 15:25:11

shockshockshock creamtea I'm bloody outraged on your behalf!! What a horrid horrid woman! Issues or not, that's just a horrible thing to say to someone.

Hope everyone had a lovely bank holiday weekend. We started sorting out the spare room that will become the nursery, including putting the pram up (mostly just to check it was all in working order as we've had it sat in the box for a while already) so that was all quite exciting grin. I've also ordered a baby carrier - we went for the mamas & papas Morph, which works on a funky "pod" system and got really good reviews.

afrikat Tue 07-May-13 16:45:06

Hi ladies, hope you don't mind me jumping in mid-chat but I have been posting over on the pregnancy boards and was advised to make my way over here.

I am 20+4 today (had the scan last Friday) and it would be good to chat to others in the same place! Due September 20th so over halfway now...

First baby so starting the rather overwhelming task of figuring out where to start with prams / cots / etc and slightly freaked out about having to keep another human alive in 4 months time or so!

Nice to meet you all smile

fl0b0t Tue 07-May-13 17:01:31

RakeABedOfTyneFilth Hope you enjoyed your bike ride! We did 25m a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed it, but not been out and about too much recently on the bike :-( Hope to ride to full term if my balance is ok :-)

afrikat- hello and welcome! we've been blabbing on for about 6 chat threads now about all kinds of things, so if you feel you've missed out please feel free to ask! Also, there's a stats thread someone (link anyone) which you can add yourself to if you'd like :-)

This week I have already found out that my baby likes chanting! We were at a Muslim wedding yesterday and baby loved the whole 10 minutes of Imam chanting that it kicked me so hard I had tears (mostly good ones) in my eyes and the husband jumped when he felt it :-)

I also found out that I am emotional and hate being "told off". Guaranteed to have my blubbing. I was having a lovely morning, picked up a lush sorbet at the station between meetings and sat eating it in the sun. Then the train changed platforms, and I rushed to get it. It was really busy, and the guard told me to get on and sit in first class when he saw my bump. I felt a bit uneasy about it, but went into first class just to get on the train, then the lady with the trolley came through so I sat on the luggage rack to get out of her way and she had a go at me for being in 1st class!! I tried to explain that I'd just been told to get in first class and wasn't necessarily planning on staying there. What a complete bitch. I was only sitting in the fsking luggage rack! I did find a seat (a foldey downy one) in the vestibule and sat there and cried half way to Oxford. Bah. sad

Derpess Tue 07-May-13 18:13:21

Welcome Afrikat!

Flobot - she sounds like a cow, hope you feel better soon.

I finally had my scan today, 2 very wriggly babies and everything is as it should be. One is team pink and one is team blue, the girl was kicking the boy in the head at one point! I guess she's letting him know who is boss from the start!

My midwife thinks I do have pelvic girdle pain and have to see the GP for a referral to physio and/or an osteopath. Will try and get an emergency appointment tomorrow.

Good luck for any last scans over the next few days.

frogchops Tue 07-May-13 18:21:09

Afrikat! Welcome! I'm also due my first on 20/09. Be my due date buddy! My scan was Friday too.... ;)

afrikat Tue 07-May-13 19:15:17

Thanks for the welcomes ladies and nice to have a due date partner frogchops! How did your scan go? Our baby was showing an early stubborn streak, refusing to get in required position for one of the views so I have to go back for another scan next week. They weren't at all concerned tho so I am viewing it as a bonus - I get to see another scan!

Off to yoga tonight - I am usually too tired to do anything in the evenings (that first trimester exhaustion never really left me) but doing ok today so trying to make the effort while I can.

Sorry you are in pain derpess - hopefully you will manage to get some help ASAP

frogchops Tue 07-May-13 19:35:19

Scan was great...revealed a lovely little boy! He was chilling with his arms up behind his head. All measurements were average too. Good that u get another scan though!!

weebarra Tue 07-May-13 20:24:34

Welcome afrikat and congrats on the scan frogchops.
Are there any ladies on here who've had an elective section previously? I've got an appointment with my consultant next week and was wondering if she'll give me a date then.
Nothing exciting to report here, feeling fine and enjoying the sun.
Can't believe how rude people have been to some of you - they'd be feeling the wrath of my hormones!

Dorita75 Tue 07-May-13 20:39:23

Thanks fozziebear yes that helps thank you. It’s just something that is completely new to me and I need a really simple guide to the basics of tax!! That’s useful info though.

jammy we went to Robin Hoods Bay last year, was lovely and nearer to you than St Ives!!

kamikaze I had an ERPC last year, interesting that you’ve found a connection between the two.

kittenkatz we got our room sorted too, so exciting isn’t it!! Can’t believe it’s going to have a baby in it before Christmas.

Welcome africat hope you find lots of answers to all the questions here!

My friend lent me her angelsounds doppler today, OMG it's amazing hearing the heartbeat!! Put my mind at rest seeing as I'm not feeling much yet. The baby obviously doesn't like being poked in any way as it moved away so I won't be using the doppler too much but great for reassurance.

JammyTummy Tue 07-May-13 20:50:57

DH just finished building baby's new wardrobe! He did a swell job although he couldn't figure out how to attach the handle at the end...
Our nursery is almost done and all painted now, just need a little shelf for for books (harder to find than expected) and a nursing chair which I quite fancy. Really feel like we're getting there now!
Yesterday I was feeling a bit hormonal so I went and sat staring into one of my drawers of little baby clothes and felt happier after a few minutes! Definite therapeutic effect.

Kittenkatzen Tue 07-May-13 21:21:02

Welcome afrikat, hope you've had an easy time of it so far!

Awww fl0b0t she sounds like a miserable old witch, you should have flicked sorbet at her grin

derpess congrats on the scan, one of each how lovely!!

jammy wow you're organised with your nursery! We have decided on a theme and started picking up bits and pieces but there's no paint or anything in sight yet!

So excited about my scan 2moro...really hoping baby plays ball & shows us what flavour it is! Baby seems equally excited...been kicking like crazy today :-)

Fozziebearmum2b Tue 07-May-13 21:27:47

Is anyone else struggling with hayfever? I'm sure the mw said it doesn't normally bother preg women, but mines awful despite taking eye drops hmm

Fozziebearmum2b Tue 07-May-13 21:28:52

Ahh-enjoy your scan tomorrow smile Mines Thurs can't wait!

frogchops Tue 07-May-13 22:16:13

Good luck with scan ready!! Oh and finding out the flavour too, how nice! I feel like the blue team captain willing everyone to join my team!!lol
I've had dodgy hayfever too, and there's not a lot we can have for it. Ended up paying a tenner for some spray from boots.... And can't say its really helped :-/

herewego2 Tue 07-May-13 22:48:15

Creamtea and Flo really, really feeling it for you both there.... Jammy Tummy has the right idea, keep your eyes on the prize! (or on the reminders of why we're doing this). Creamtea, def keep away from the woman with the issues. XXXX

CheeseStrawCraving Tue 07-May-13 23:41:48

Ok need to catch up, but sun news codes for hols are duke, undo, hush, cuff, buzz, wren, jinx and yoga. Enjoy!

kimjayne Wed 08-May-13 07:58:26

I've hit an emotional stage and feeling a bit teary today. The smallest things are setting me off and my.boss isn't helping matters. He was being fab about my pregnancy until about a month ago when the novelty seemed to wear off. He now seems to blank my comments regarding pregnancy and today he's making me meet him outside his house before a client meeting coz it's easier for him this way. He could easily pick me up as he drives and I have no car. So Im getting a bus for an hour and then a tram to get to his. Also had to get up an hour early in order to.get there for 8:30am. Im shattered!

Kittenkatzen Wed 08-May-13 08:19:01

ready good luck for your scan today, looking forward to pink/blue news smile

kimjayne your boss sounds like a nobber, how mean of him. I guess some people just like the power trip hmm. Hope he gets over himself soon and bucks his ideas up - stop doing anything "over and above" until he does.

Kittenkatzen Wed 08-May-13 08:23:41

Meant to also say that I agree about feeling teary and a bit pathetic at the moment. DH went out last night so I deliberately watched a One Born and the last Child of Our Time that I had recorded and had a good blub in front of the TV whilst shovelling ice cream and feel a bit better this morning! grin

Am also ridiculously clumsy and forgetful at the moment - the stupidest most simple things just seem to be completely beyond me! Good job I work as a PA where I basically get paid to be super organised on behalf of someone else confusedhmm (so glad my boss has a sense of humour.....and twins!)

kimjayne Wed 08-May-13 08:25:42

Cheers kitten. My DH was so angry at my boss last night that I had to stop him calling him. Quite nice to see his protective streak smile

Derpess Wed 08-May-13 08:47:56

Sorry to hear your boss is being a tool kimjayne, what goes around comes around though...

Good luck for your scan ready and anyone else today.

JammyTummy Wed 08-May-13 09:28:21

Yes I woke up all emotional today. I also keep having really crap night sleep as am woken by excruciating back pain! I think it's from bump pulling down on back muscles. This happens in every position other than lying on my back, which in itself is not really very comfortable/ good for baby sleeping! Amazingly there is never a sign of the pain by morning time.

Has anyone else been given a GP apt on top of their MW apts? I'm just on my way to mine and its only just occurred to me that I haven't heard anyone else mention anything about this before!

frogchops Wed 08-May-13 09:33:46

Thanks for codes cheese! Have seen st Ives holiday park and seaview park and tolroy manor that look like they are in good locations..,,anyone been? Or any other parks you revommend?

CharlW1 Wed 08-May-13 09:56:55

Just waiting in a Pret shop for a 'coffee morning' with my boss and a few others from my department - I'm first here and have just had scoffed a pain au raisin and debating that when everyone arrives if it would be rude to have another as no one would know I'd had the first smile

frog is the St Ives holiday park a John Fowlers one? If it us I have been there and it's a great location.

astroming Wed 08-May-13 10:24:25

Had scan this morning and everything was perfect! Also....am on team blue:-) Hope yours went well too Ready.

I'm team blue too! So happy as DH was a first born & I have an older bro so it feels like the natural order of things :-) plus all our friends have had girls so it's nice to be different! Probably explains all the kicking, and the permanent hunger....

Feels a lot more real now, just went to Sainsburys and was checking out all the baby boys wondering what ours will be like...

Jammy in my area they do the 24wk apt with the gp instead of the midwife.

JammyTummy Wed 08-May-13 11:15:08

Ah I see. Well the GP was fine, just routine check up. I did arrive without my notes or my pee sample though, having had a bit of a scatty morning! I then proceeded to drop the disposable cup she gave me to catch the pee into the loo, and ended up having to aim into one of those little narrow plastic pots instead. Och. One of those days. So happy to be home with my cup of tea!

frogchops Wed 08-May-13 12:17:38

Woohoo for more recruits to team blue!! Congrats girls! Charl I think at Ives is a John fowlers but some of the tripadvisor reviews are a bit worrying!! Any other recommendations appreciated!!

Creamtea1 Wed 08-May-13 12:47:30

It's a girl! Shocked!! smile

JammyTummy Wed 08-May-13 12:52:12

Yay creamtea team pink!!!

flipflump Wed 08-May-13 13:18:23

More fantastic news, congratulations everyone!

weebarra Wed 08-May-13 13:46:44

Congratulations on the scan news everyone!

Derpess Wed 08-May-13 13:55:12

Congrats astroming, ready and cream tea! Lovely news.

There seems to be lots more blue than pink around or am I not paying attention? Is anyone keeping tally?

I think start of the month was more pink & us later ones have been more blue....am going to update the stats with mine! If others do the same we'll get a better idea..

Derpess Wed 08-May-13 16:45:55

Good idea ready, I'll do the same...

Derpess Wed 08-May-13 16:53:31

My phone is not playing- I'll update my stats when I get a chance to get on a PC...

I did it for u derpess...

afrikat Wed 08-May-13 18:20:37

Eek am I the only one not finding out what we are having?? My willpower is fading!

Fozziebearmum2b Wed 08-May-13 18:22:14

Anyone else got a scan tomorrow? Wondering if I have a buddy? smile

Kittenkatzen Wed 08-May-13 18:24:51

afrikat I'm team yellow and staying that way, too much fun keeping everyone guessing! grin Dont lose our resolve!!

kimjayne Wed 08-May-13 18:27:02

Lovely scan news ladies! Definitely seems like the blues are in the majority recently. Wonder what the ratio split will be like. And whether all the sexing scans will be 100% correct? Eeek.

Apologies for being dumb. But can I check how we use the voucher codes that Cheesestring kindly posted? I'm gonna give it a go when I get home? Is it just part of the Sun website? Not used them before.

Also, does anyone have any idea the general rule with holidays at work whilst on mat leave? Am I right in thinking that any hold accrued after August when I go on mat leave will get carried into next year? I've been told one thing by HR and another by my manager. I would normally just trust HR but shockingly this is the first time our HR manager (or my boss) has had a pregnant member if staff (in the 10 years they have both worked at our company). So it's a bit like the blind leading the blind. Any general thoughts would be much appreciated.

JammyTummy Wed 08-May-13 18:29:54

I think we are going to go for a 3D scan in a month or so, so I will definitely be confirming what is due to pop out! Otherwise if buba turns out to be a little boy he has an awful lot of girlie outfits to get through!

It depends on company policy...some let you carry it over or be paid, some make you take it all before you go off. Just get it in writing if they're letting you carry it over!

JammyTummy Wed 08-May-13 18:32:24

Also, has anyone considered cord clamping? Can you tell me a bit more about it please?

jennimoo Wed 08-May-13 18:45:21

Kimjayne - I think if you google breakfree sun offer you'll get the page where you tap in the codes. Do read the ts and cs carefully. Ours came to just over £100 for 3 last time, once you've paid for entertainment passes, linen and all the people to make up the minimum of 4! Still really good value though and we loved our park dean hol.

Jammy - do you mean delayed cord clamping? We planned to delay a little but DD was too chilled after her water birth to breath so they snipped and took her into the corridor (cooler) and she breathed right away.

I planned (and do again) to hang on a bit for the clamping and snipping but still having the injection to help the placenta come away.

andadietcoke Wed 08-May-13 19:11:44

kimjayne at my company we get paid for them at the end of the holiday year if they're accrued during maternity leave, or some people use them to come back part time for a few weeks. I'm planning to use a lot of mine before my maternity leave starts so I can finish work early.

CheeseStrawCraving Wed 08-May-13 19:20:03

Yep Kim, Jenni is right, i just googled sun newspaper holidays or similar, you can either post it off or fill it in online. Once we had booked we got a confirmation from the sun, then a receipt from the holiday park we booked with, but beware, in order to complete the booking you do have to call the holiday park and add in the extra bits, for example we paid extra for service charge (non-negotiable) and for the beagle pup, so there is always something extra to pay. if you don't call up within a certain time frame you lose the booking - so make sure you read the emails properly!!

We have so far opted for delayed cord clamping (well birth plan says would like a water birth and would definitely like to delay cord cutting) obviously this is the ideal for us (fx!).

Congrats on all the scan news, if anybody could update my stats (still under CarrieJayne I think) could they add me to team blue please? V interested to see completed stats list with this - does seem to be blue heavy!

jemimahpuddleduck Wed 08-May-13 19:20:25

afrikat and kitten I'm team yellow too. Love hearing about everyone elses gender though!

MammaGnomes Wed 08-May-13 19:36:55

Hi all had scan today were team yellow!! Was v tempted to ask but didn't eek!! The lady doing the scan did refer to baby as her and then again she so thinking we
May have a Girly that and my gut feeling grin

Also team low lying placenta hmm but was told that there is a 92% chance that it will move! Have to have another scan at week 38!

Also have to go back in 3 weeks for a bonus scan as they couldn't see the face as baby was being camera shy and had hands over face so they couldn't check for cleft lip!!

Anyone else with scans today!

weebarra Wed 08-May-13 19:46:20

We're team yellow too! Very tempting to find out though!

Derpess Wed 08-May-13 20:02:08

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frogchops Wed 08-May-13 20:08:49

My leave year runs from jan-dec so all of this yrs leave has to be taken before I go off. Cue excited 'finishing 4 weeks earlier than I thought' face!!

herewego2 Wed 08-May-13 20:19:47

frog - I bet that's quite a face!
I am in team yellow too.
I definitely disgraced myself this evening dancing to "I'm sexy and I know it" at 21 weeks pregnant in my Zumba class..... the side view in the mirror was, quite frankly, ridiculous!

KamikazeeKid Wed 08-May-13 23:37:00

Team yellow here too...next scan at 32 weeks so just 7 weeks to go! My moneys on my placenta still being low. Once I looked into low lying placenta I found loads of references to the link between previous ops and sections and funnily enough most people I know who've had it had had ops!

Had a horrid dream about bleeds last night :-( damn you sleep time! Im suddenly ballooning too - weeble alert!

People at my workarestill only just finding out I'm pregnant - its obvious I thought!

EmmaDee Wed 08-May-13 23:58:49

Hello all, so glad to hear everyones good scan news. Mines on Friday afternoon, wish it would hurry up! Anyone else still waiting?

I'm a tad anxious about it but also excited to see wee bub again!
Just found out my friends preggers too so that'll be two tea totallers over the summer months!!

Kittenkatzen Thu 09-May-13 07:38:09

jammy I'm also planning to ask for them to wait before cutting the cord if possible. Seems logical to me and the evidence suggests its a good idea....interesting study www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d7157

kimjayne at my company normal carry over rules apply (up to 5 days), so I'm tagging mine on to the beginning of my mat leave so I can finish a couple of weeks early. Don't forget you'll accrue holiday whilst you're in mat leave too so you should be able to tag that to the end if you want, or they might offer to pay you in lieu instead.

Is it wrong that I'm mildly envy of you ladies with low lying placentas - I want an extra scan dammit!!! grin

JammyTummy Thu 09-May-13 09:17:18

Thanks all! The delayed clamping does seem completely logical! Is it not common place simply because its quite a new thing?

Last night was my third awful back ache night on the trot, starting to get used to feeling perpetually tired now!

Fozziebearmum2b Thu 09-May-13 10:25:23

Had 20 wk scan this morning and all is well smile had a bit of a panic as the sonographer did a massive pause whilst looking at the heart, but Dh said that she was trying to get a good pic of the heart and kept pressing the button at the wrong time so had to try about 4 times. Phew!!!

Team yellow too grin

Manoodledo Thu 09-May-13 10:39:31

I haven't been on for ages, so it's nice to catch up on all the scan news. We're still team yellow, but have randomly been sent to the consultant regarding a problem that DS1 had, which no one worried about with DS2 and even the consultant thought was unlikely to reoccur with DC3, but still they thought they would monitor me confused. It's good to know that NHS money is being well spent! Anyway, it won't hurt to see the baby again and we're hoping we can persuade the consultant to tell us the sex. Not least because we're going to be moving house and if it's going to be a girl then I won't need to cart the mountains of boys clothes I have with me.

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 10:44:28

Have just been for consultant apt which was a complete waste of time. Consultant was extremely good looking blush which threw me a little! Turns out that although they should dismiss private tests etc (harmony in my case) that he decided that They wouldn't this time and so wrote a new downs figure of 1:10000 on my notes. Now this means I won't have the extra scans :-( men....they just don't understand!!
Otherwise, mw listened to heartbeat which wasn't as loud as last time but she said she was having to chase him as his was wriggling so much. Some loud kicks though which are concurrent with the wriggling I felt at 4am this morning! hmm

JammyTummy Thu 09-May-13 10:54:04

In case anybody is looking for a nice dress/ top- Isabella Oliver have 41% off everything today! Usually quite expensive but almost half price today and think 36% tomorrow.

Kittenkatzen Thu 09-May-13 11:27:04

Ooh thanks jammy will take a look. Meant to say earlier that I've bought and ordered a few bits from New Look in the last couple of days - they have a massive selection online, and I'm finding their vest tops in particular really well fitting and comfy. Have also got a lightweight knitted sleeveless top for work, and a pair of under bump knee length denim shorts which are sooooo comfy smile

JammyTummy Thu 09-May-13 11:32:30

Sorry forgot to say, the code is MAY41 at the checkout. Just got a couple of tops and a dress, super super chuffed. I do rate Isabella so highly- the quality and cut of their mat clothes is absolutely fab! What a nice treat on a Thursday morning smile

LCR77 Thu 09-May-13 12:58:35

thanks [jammy] for the Isabella Oliver code. I've been looking for a dress for a wedding next month for ages and finally managed to find one that's affordable with the 41% discount. Cheers!

kitten would gladly swap my extra scan to have some movement and kicks smile Feeling flutter envy every time I read someone's active baby. I know just need to be patient...although am pleased get to see if she is still a she at 32 weeks as sonographer wasn't convincing!

Creamtea1 Thu 09-May-13 13:26:22

I'm not one for advertising but would just like to recommend Premier Scans in Lichfield. The lady was really nice, so thorough and for £60 we were in there about 20 mins and got a DVD of scan, printed out 2d and 3d pics (saw both during scan) all in a nice folder with a printed out report of measurements and the sex. Scan room was spotless and modern with a massive screen to watch the whole thing on. Couldn't believe what I got for my money as 6 years ago with ds2 I paid 3 times that to a place in Solihull and got nowhere near as good service or experience.

Peabody25 Thu 09-May-13 14:10:09

hello all, not posted for a while! Had my 20 week scan last week, all good, and still team yellow!

Just wondering whether anyone else has one almost permanently swollen (double in size) foot, and one slightly swollen one? Also, got fat fingers in the morning!

Been to see docs last week and this week and they've done urine samples and blood pressure, and all good, he just seemed to think it was quite early to get it this badly. It's really making my back and legs hurt as well.

fl0b0t Thu 09-May-13 14:22:29

herewego- One of my current pleasures in life is doing the MOST innapropriate dance moves whilst pregnant. I find it hillarious (no-one else does).

Peabody I get swollen fingers now if it's hot and I'm walking/ exercising

Also "team yellow" though I dislike the pink/blue thing on principle so I might call myself team "rainbow" :-)

kitten agreed about New Look. I don't ever buy stuff there but maternity stuff is great!

In terms of HR- policies may vary but I had an email stating this today:
“Your annual leave entitled can be used before the start of your maternity leave - you can use annual leave right up to the day of the birth if you wish / have enough. The latest maternity leave can start is on the day the baby is born. If there is any annual leave entitlement for 2013 left at the end of the year, it will be paid with your December salary.”
(Our holiday year is Jan==>Dec)

I plan to take 27th August to 6th Sept as A/L, then start mat leave 9th Sept (EDD is 17th). I think that makes sense and if my maternity leave starts early as baby comes early, I can always claim back the holiday that I've booked. For everyone, but particularly those of us on SMP, this is a wonderful blessing!

fl0b0t Thu 09-May-13 14:27:16

Question- at what point are we expected to have written a birth plan? Do we get any assistance with writing it (midwife etc)? Has anyone already written theirs?

I'm a bit hmm about it in some ways as I guess baby will do whatever baby does and the mw and hosp staff will have to do what they have to do and anything positive around that is a bonus! (I'm trying to set myself up for disappointment as I know the wards will be busy)...

jennimoo Thu 09-May-13 14:32:42

Flobot - are you doing any antenatal classes? If so I think you'd get info there on birth planning. Otherwise I expect there are templates online to help you know what should go in. I didn't write one, just discussed scenarios with DH.

badguider Thu 09-May-13 14:37:58

I've got a page in my notes to fill in with a load of different questions that makes the 'birth plan'.

I'm guessing we'll do it after the first ante-natal classes (the first two are labour and birth, next two are breast feeding and going home).

Creamtea1 Thu 09-May-13 15:03:57

The midwife will fill in the birth plan page in your green notes around 30 weeks, warning - dont expect too much! It's a 5-10 min discussion and a few notes/boxes ticked in the notes. I don't remember anyone much taking note of it at hospital on birth day anyway. Main thing is to get straight in your head what you want, and try and get your other half to remember too!

EmmaDee Thu 09-May-13 15:15:32

Hi all, thanks for the Isabella codes, very tempting!

Today I have been having these weird sensations very low down, almost painful, quite quick and sharp at my lady bits. Could this be kicking?? I havent felt antything yet?

Roll on this time tomorrow I'll be on the way to my scan! Yippee!

flipflump Thu 09-May-13 15:57:32

Emma, I had pains like that a few weeks ago. It has disappeared now, think it must have been muscles and ligaments stretching. It's hard to describe kicks, it's almost like a twitch or muscle spasm. Then gradually they are getting stronger. I call mine the little fish as it feels like a fish wriggling around. The kicks are definitely not painful though. Not sure how it feels for everyone else.

flipflump Thu 09-May-13 16:03:30

How long before the due date is everyone starting mat leave? I was thinking 4 weeks but I'm just really keen to stop. Is that too long? I have an active job, I spend a long time on my feet and I find it quite exhausting. I know I'm going to struggle as the weather get warmer. Not sure if my boss will think I'm mad going off that early!

I'm finishing the week before my due date...lots of people think that's mad, but I think I'll go mad if I'm twiddling my thumbs at home for weeks on end waiting for the baby! I don't have a physically demanding job, commute by car & am able to work from home etc which means that I should be ok for longer. I'm also using my annual leave a bit creatively to work part time for about a month before I go off, that should help ease me into the whole not working thing!

fl0b0t Thu 09-May-13 16:38:04

flipflump I described kicks as "you know when you're on an escalator with your hand on the moving handrail, and then there's a bump under the surface..."

Ready I'm with you about not wanting to sit about too long twiddling thumbs, but as I travel quite a bit for work, I'm not sure I want to be doing that. Gone for a compromise (being on holiday from 27th Aug, then mat leave starts 9th Sept, due 17th). I still feel it might be too long!

I'm not doing NCT, but hoping to find out more about antenatal classes in general. I guess the ones the hosp offer will be my best bet??

Fozziebearmum2b Thu 09-May-13 17:10:41

I'm planning on having quite a bit of time off :-) not due until 26th Sept, but taking 3 wks holiday before so finishing at end of Aug.

This is first baby and someone said to me that this is the last time you get to spend alone doing your stuff. So I've got the sex in the city box set and ready for a relax!! smile

Also we will have just moved house so imagine Ill still need to do some baby stuff

jennimoo Thu 09-May-13 17:43:28

I'm finishing 10th July! I am due 26th Aug though... I only work 2 days a week (that is only get paid for that, I have DD the other days...) so don't think I'll find filling 2 days 8-3pm only that difficult. And the childminders away the last 2 weeks of August, when I'd probably have asked for extra days!

I'm taking mat leave from 38 weeks then 4 weeks annual leave before that. DD arrived at 38+5...

Kittenkatzen Thu 09-May-13 18:08:08

Yep I have the page in my notes for a birth plan to go on too. I think I'm going to put some bullet points down and then discuss scenarios with DH in advance as jennimoo said. Bullet points will be along the lines of; water birth if poss/active birth if not, avoid epidural, immediate bf, delayed cord clamping, DH to decide if he wants to cut the cord or not (he's a bit squeamish!). Not sure about the vitamin k injection as I've not researched it yet - anyone know anything about it? I don't even know what it's for! blush ditto the injection to bring out the placenta...

emma I agree with flips description of kicking - to begin with it felt like I had a goldfish flopping around in there! Now though they are definite pokes and prods. If you open your mouth and poke the inside of your cheek, it's a little bit like that!

My mat leave is booked to start on 12 Aug and includes a couple of weeks leave first. I feel like that's a bit too early tbh (EDD is 12 sept) but my train commute is almost 2hrs each way, and DH is convinced i'll be grateful for it by that point! jenni I am envyenvy at your July finish date!!

On antenatal classes, if you're not already booked on the ones at your hospital then I recommend you check your paperwork - I dug mine out the other day to find I'd missed the registration deadline by nearly 2 weeks shocksad. Have sent it off anyway, hoping they can squeeze us in! Not doing NCT I don't think.

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 18:22:16

I'm not worrying about finishing too early.... I've previsionally said I'll be going off 6 weeks before Edd at 9th aug. my manager has suggested that I finish 3 weeks prior to Edd just incase baby comes early and I wouldn't want birth to happen in the middle of my holiday cos then I'll lose the holiday that was left. So she added my three weeks holiday on to this which has me finishing 6 weeks before Edd. Works for me! wink

I wasn't told about antenatal classes, spotted a notice on the wall at my consultant apt with a number to call to book. Then, when I came out to book my next consultant appointment, there was a couple in front of me (whose baby is due 2months after mine!) booking up all the various classes. At which point I thought I'd better get involved, only to discover that things like the physio led session were already fully booked so I couldn't get onto one until after the 26 wk cut off! I felt like saying 'can't you just bump one of these eager beavers to a month later'

I don't really blame the early birds, was just a bit miffed that no one had informed me about all these things earlier.....and that i only found out by chance! Anyways, they also had breast feeding sessions (which I've decided against as I think this'll be well covered by NCT) and a half-day antenatal which I will do just to see what they have to say.

badguider Thu 09-May-13 18:37:26

I'm self employed and going to ask for Mat Allowance from 1st September (due on 5th). That gives me freedom to work as many days as I can in August - even one day a fortnight would be the same as MA so it's worth me doing a bit.
Right now i've not got a lot booked in and I'll have to be careful about committing to things but i reckon doing a bit right up to end august will keep me sane... i'm not sure i'll be very good at that waiting bit at the end grin

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 18:39:19

I've booked parentcraft at my hosp today and although I'm not sure what it covers I know there's a tour of the maternity unit so I'm going to just be nosey. blush
I'm also doing relaxed birth antenatal classes at work, its a colleague that's running it so I'd be silly not to go.
I'm also lucky that nct classes are run at work too so I'm going to do those in July. By then I'll be all classed out!!

I just bumped into a twat ex line manager between my office and tube station. He made my life a bit of a misery two years ago when he came and threw his (puny) weight around over the job I had been almost single handedly delivering for the previous two years. Within a couple of months I was looking for a way to leave and so I found a post which turned out to be a brilliant springboard to the promotion I got three weeks ago! When I moved though, he really tried to screw me over with an absolute hack job of an appraisal. I got it mostly overturned but still would never want to be in the same area as him again... I couldn't trust him.

Anyway, he was all smiles just now, I sort of kept walking, all he said was "oh hello... got another bump I see!" and couldn't raise his eyes any higher than said bump! Yep, a social graces free zone... nothing else to say to me other than a physical observation. I wish I'd said "still got a pin head then!" or something. I bloody hope he looks me up on the system and sees I got promoted, the twatbadger.

Midwife appointment for me on Monday! 24 weeks I think, I've lost track. I need to send my Statement of Intention in at work next week so I hope I get my MATB1 from the MW - they haven't exactly been a model of efficiency with forms etc but they are nice and kind and give a good vibe that they know their stuff medically. I will be asking for Mat Leave to start on the 2nd Sept, although my scan-based EDD is 28 Aug, so I will have to ask the MW to use the EDD by LMP. I will be working from home almost all of August anyway, and if baby comes a bit early the Mat Leave just gets adjusted. I just need to hang on for the training course I'm doing at the end of July, then I have a week on hols at my parents' place. It's a brilliant plan, max time making my mark in new job, DH is a house husband from June so I have no domestic responsibilities almost at all, and then max time with baby.

flipflump Thu 09-May-13 19:09:10

Fozziebear, that is so true and I'd never thought of that before. I'll never get this time back again, there will always be someone else to occupy my time. I could spend all day at home, I never get bored and always find the days fly by. On that note, I'll stick to 9th Aug being my last day, due 10th Sept. both my mum and sister had their first 3 weeks early, best be prepared! No doubt I'll go 2 weeks over grin

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 19:24:17

Rake.... Twatbadger really just made me lol!!
I'm never going to be a non-mommy again so Im certainly not going to feel bad about going off early.

Kittenkatzen Thu 09-May-13 19:32:21

Am definitely stealing twatbadger for future use gringrin

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 19:46:24

I've already used it. On the dog. blush

CharlW1 Thu 09-May-13 20:15:43

I'm taking 5 weeks off before - 4 of those are holiday. I have a ling commute on train and tube into London so will need the time before hand to relax - though OHsaid he would like to see the day I truly relax!

I have been having terrible lower back pain - it's like at the end of my spine - I only get it at work because the chairs are awful - I am going to remind HR yet againthat they need to do my risk assessment.

Creamtea1 Thu 09-May-13 20:27:28

I'm finishing August 15th and am due on 5th/9th sept - cant wait, counting the days smile last two times I worked right up to 39 weeks and sort of regretted it - even though I went over due. This time am going to enjoy the time. Will also be handing over work at end of July so those last 2 weeks working should be pretty quiet and 'skivey' !

weebarra Thu 09-May-13 21:01:28

Had mw appt today and got my MatB1 so have to get that off to HR.
With DS1 I had pre-eclampsia and was advised to stop work 6 weeks before, which was a bit dull tbh!
With DS2 I stopped 4 weeks before but was only working 3 days a week. Planning to finish just a couple of weeks before with this one -I'm due 7th Sept but imagine it will be the week before as I'm having a section.

frogchops Thu 09-May-13 21:13:37

Thanks for the codes cheese, have just booked my holiday at st minver near padstow ;)

Wincher Thu 09-May-13 21:58:14

I think I'm finishing on 16 august, edd 11 Sep. Should be about right... am planning to use annual leave for as much of that as possible. Next year I want to be able to settle ds1 into reception before starting back at work so I'll need to use holiday that end too.

Dorita75 Thu 09-May-13 22:21:04

I'm stealing twatbadger too!

I'm starting maternity leave on 1st Sept, due date 14th. Having 2weeks annual leave so finish on 15th Aug. As I have to use all but 5 days before I go I'm having one day off a week from now on!! Someone suggested having Wednesdays off in the last month or so, so I'm never working more than 2 days without a break, I like the sound of that.

Team yellow and low lying placenta here too.

juniper9 Thu 09-May-13 23:51:41

My maternity leave works out really well. We break up for summer in late July (48 days left, not that I'm counting...) when I'll be 30+3. I have six weeks' holiday then have to go back for a day as a token, so officially starting my maternity in the first week of sept but in reality it'll be July.

Well times baby!

juniper9 Thu 09-May-13 23:53:29

Incidentally, thanks for the reassuring words the other day re my bump to my bump. I didn't contact the midwives but have had no symptons since so I reckon I'm ok. Not had definite movement yet (19+4) and ended up buying a Doppler this morning blush so hopefully that will ease my general anxiety that something has gone wrong every moment of the day.

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 07:25:45

Glad you're feeling better juniper smile I've really loved having my Doppler, it really did reassure in that gap between the 12 week scan and feeling proper kicks. I've also found that lots of family and friends love to get involved and have a listen too - my dad thought it was the best thing ever! grin

jemimahpuddleduck Fri 10-May-13 09:03:15

wincher I'm leaving on the 16th aug too due date also the 11th. going to take two weeks holiday and officially start mat leave wk com 01 Sept.

I'm not at all worried about being bored I can busy myself for hours around the house.

Creamtea1 Fri 10-May-13 09:10:29

Looks like there is a mass exodus of us from work on 15/16 August then - the thread will be busy that day! grin

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 10:43:31

Maternity bra update!

I've resisted the call of the maternity bra up to now, but after measuring myself the other day and discovering I've gone up two cup sizes to an E shockshock I thought I'd better get on it! So I ordered from Figleaves the Anita underwired maternity/nursing bra, and OMG it's soooooo comfy!! Not at all attractive of course, but right now I don't care haha! It does still give a nice shape though , and no monoboob happening. The nursing straps are really easy to open one handed too which will be good (DH thinks they're hilarious obv hmm). So highly recommended if anyone is looking!

JammyTummy Fri 10-May-13 11:09:43

Kitten they do look quite nice! I've also had a nose at the Amoralia maternity bras, they look like good ones also. I think I'll try and stretch mine out for a little while longer- I always feel obliged to buy the matching knickers and also a dark set and a light set. It's like an investment every time!

LCR77 Fri 10-May-13 11:29:31

Think there will def be a lot of us starting mat leave mid Aug. EDD is 9 Sept but with holidays I'm finishing 13 Aug. fx for lots of sunshine and lounging around in the garden with ice cream grin

Speaking of sunshine not long to our hols in Rome and Amalfi Coast at beginning of June - cannot wait!

Also stealing twatbadger to add to the insult library!

TripleRock Fri 10-May-13 12:19:46

All of you are making me feel very disorganised with your talk of dates to start mat leave. I've barely given it much thought... ! EDD is 15/9 so maybe late August?

fl0b0t Fri 10-May-13 12:47:32

{speaks to breasts} HURRY UP AND GROW ALREADY! and catch up with the nipples
Looks like my midwife will let me know about classes, and I want to get the tour of the hosp too. It's so confusing how different it is everywhere- I wish so many of these services weren't localised! kitten husband also likes the "peekaboo bra" :-)

I'm technically still on mat leave but back at work on 21st of may for 32 days and finishing on 11th of July. Taking 5 weeks holiday then 4 weeks mat leave, due 11th of September. Going back full time so I get another 6 months full pay. I'm lucky smile

Creamtea1 Fri 10-May-13 13:42:04

Quick boob survey - all those that know they are having girls, massive noob growth? I've read old wives tale that boobs grow more when you are having a girl. Certainly true here as do not remember them being this big when I had DS's

RunningBear78 Fri 10-May-13 13:49:05

Oh squeak, may need a re-think. I was planning to start my mat leave as late as possible, is the Friday before edd on the Sunday, and two weeks of hols before that. I think I was assuming Pip would be late arriving, but no idea why. Is two weeks leave enough before arrival? I work from home so feel like i should keep working as long as possible (esp if i won't have a job to go back to!).

I think we might investigate a private scan, don't think dh can wait another 20 weeks to see Pip again!

Very much looking forwards to a week in Nice at the start of June, except i have nothing to wear. Also quite shocked to have started buying clothes from New Look, their maternity stuff is nice!

badguider Fri 10-May-13 13:49:15

kitten - i've been looking at the anita bras on figleaves, which one did you get and does it have soft cups even though it has underwire? I can't decide between 'jacquard' 'smooth' and 'microfibre' here 'smooth' is the only one in nude but I don't fancy the moulded cups as they'll surely be really obvious and flap about if you open it for feeding? but then somebody else said that the moulded one hides breastpads better....

I'm really worried that i'm going to spend the first few months of breastfeeding in my maternity clothes.. I was previously a 12 on the bottom and 14 on top but I'm already a 16 on top and people say you are bigger in the first months of breastfeeding sad I'm worried also that my winter coats won't fit next winter sad

RunningBear78 Fri 10-May-13 13:52:50

On the boob front, have grown from a little 32C to a 36E - having a boy.
M&S t do quite nice, very soft t-shirt bras. Can't bring myself to buy anything other than underwired with such huge boobs.

TripleRock Fri 10-May-13 14:07:08

Creamtea I'm bucking the trend then as with DD my boobs didnt change at all, but this time round with a blue bump I'm up to FF cup!

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 14:46:18

badguider I got the smooth one in nude. The cups are lovely and soft & silky and I find the underwires really comfy (I only ever wear underwired anyway though so that might contribute). The cups on the smooth one aren't moulded, and they peel down and sit nicely under your boob for feeding. I had the same concerns about the moulded cups as you - surely they'd get in the way a bit? Agree that, as the material on this one is so thin, breast pads might be visible - but I figured that as I'm likely to be double-topping it for bf hopefully that would help disguise it a bit. And after not long of course the cardis/jackets will come out for autumn anyway smile

HettySunshine Fri 10-May-13 14:48:41

Kittenkatzen, did you say you measured your own boobs? How do you do that?

I went to M&S but I think they got it wrong as they said I had gone from a 34d to a 36c but I had some bras in that size and none of them fit.
Squeezing myself in at the moment but they're not very comfortable. hmm

fl0b0t Fri 10-May-13 15:00:50

*running bear*- I wouln't panic. If you go into labour at work, your maternity leave officially starts! I also expect my baby to be late!

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 15:26:55

hetty it's easy to do at home - you just need a soft tape measure (like you get in little sewing kits).

1. Measure (in inches) around underneath your boobs where the back strap would to get you number/back size. Round down if you're in between sizes. E.g I measure almost 37", so I round down to a 36 (as I can let the back strap out a notch if needed)

2. Then measure again around and over the fullest part of your boobs and subtract your first number from this second number. E.g I measure 42" so 42-36=6

Each inch you're left over with = one cup size, so

1 = A
2 = B
3 = C
4 = D
5 = DD
6 = E

Etc....

Hope that helps! The trick is to make sure you're tape measure is straight and don't pull too tight (or too loose!)

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 15:28:27

badguider forgot to say make sure you don't get caught out like I nearly did - the Anita bras are sized in USA sizes, so you need to order a cup size up from what you think you want (I ordered a 36F which is equal to a UK 36E)

jennimoo Fri 10-May-13 15:29:24

I was working at the council last time and they were adamant that if I went into labour before mat leave started the annual leave I would have used after that date (due to mat leave automatically starting instead) couldn't be paid to me or carried over to the next leave year.

I'm still not convinced this sounds legal, but I asked several times and thankfully brought finish date forward a week so was just into the mat leave period by a day when DD arrived early.

Do get confirmation from HR of what will happen if you do go into labour early when you're still on annual leave, just in case.

SGJ Fri 10-May-13 16:48:16

Zzzzz, tired today. DD has horrendous cold (possibly chest/ear infection?) and we all only got 3.5 hours sleep last night... Probably have to visit the doctors later if her temp doesn't drop...
My last day of work will be 25th July as I have 4 weeks leave and due on 28th August. Holiday at college runs from Sept - August so another well timed baby! Means that I'll accrue holiday again from September, so can officially return to work in May next year but be off on leave until the end of July and earn 8 weeks of full pay without shelling out for childcare, thank goodness!
I'm about the same boob size as last time, but don't know the sex - we'll have to add this old wives' tale to the stats list too!

badguider Fri 10-May-13 17:44:46

Kitten - thank you! Are the sizes on figleaves US ones or UK ones do you know? Is that where you ordered yours?

I.O.N - Nurseries!!! OMG - we went to visit the two nearest us today looking for a space for two days a week from March 2014 and they've both got full waiting lists till July 2014!
We've gone on the lists just incase and we have a third very close option to see next week but I think we're going to have to start looking further afield to - I really want to have a place in walking distance as I work from home and DH walks to work sad

frogchops Fri 10-May-13 18:33:39

Going to attempt a boob measure in a while.... They don't feel much bigger and am having a boy. Whereasy friend had a girl and was huuuge. She just had a breast reduction to take her down from a H to a D.

Kittenkatzen Fri 10-May-13 18:48:19

badguider yep it was Figleaves I ordered from so go for the size up. Although double check if you go with a different type as I'm not sure if the US sizes are a Figleaves thing or an Anita thing iyswim

frog H cup shock my back aches just thinking about it!

frogchops Fri 10-May-13 19:08:10

Yea kitten, and she's only skinny! She gained less than a stone during whole pregnancy!

CharlW1 Fri 10-May-13 20:22:19

My boobs have grown 1 bust size so not too big really and I'm having a girl. My sisters went from a C to G and had a boy.

Today a woman at work was saying to me 'you'll be off soon won't you - how long have you got left?' Her eyes popped out of her head when I said I was only just over 5 months pregnant - she did try and redeem herself by saying that I hadn't put on weight anywhere else other than my bump my arse and thighs don't think thats the case

Creamtea1 Fri 10-May-13 21:15:22

I sympathise Charl - I regularly have people saying 'your face doesn't look any different' which I take as meaning everywhere else does!
My bladder feels battered today from non stop kicking, this baby has gone from a no movement worry to a non stop wriggler. Have been really tired this week despite some good sleep so hope that's not going to last the whole rest of the pregnancy!

jennimoo Fri 10-May-13 21:21:56

Yesterday, my dad asked me (on the phone) if I'd finished work yet! And my mum thought I must be nearly 30 weeks already (again on phone, thankfully) but was surprised to hear its only 24. I think their excited about another grandchild...

TripleRock Fri 10-May-13 21:40:37

Hi everyone, just wondered if anyone else's wee tests have shown positive for protein?

Wed and today showed positive, and been asked to do another sample on Monday.

Also had unwelcome return of some sickness, fatigue and dizziness.

Made the mistake of googling and now worried I've got something nasty brewing... Has anyone got any experience? Never had this with DD

jennimoo Fri 10-May-13 21:52:51

No protein but I haven't been tested since 16 weeks (24+4) but I do find any bit of stress or busyness and ill have some queasiness and fatigue. Coughing really bad at the mo and its making me feel quite sick.

Hope all is well for you.

Creamtea1 Fri 10-May-13 23:18:33

Triple - yes two experiences of this. First time- protein in urine, normal BP, nausea and sickness, general unwell - turned out to be urine infection which had got to my kidneys and caused a 3 day stay in hospital. Was first pregnancy around 20 weeks.
Second time, in second pregnant around 38 weeks. Protein in urine plus high BP and some headaches. Was induced a week later because of pre eclampsia worries.
Also, you can have a trace of protein from a contaminated pot (have you used the pot before and rinsed out?) or just from mild urine infection. Did they test your BP too? Has your sickness/fatigue just come on recently?

TripleRock Sat 11-May-13 08:03:03

Thanks for the replies Jennimoo and Creamtea

I did wonder if UTI but no other symptoms like pain when weeing, however first sample has been sent off to lab and awaiting results back from that, fingers crossed.

Sickness and tiredness have suddenly come on, but I've also not been sleeping great and been a bit weepy so I'm thinking maybe I've been overdoing it a bit. BP is normal.

So I guess something to just keep an eye on. Going to try take things a bit easy this weekend

frogchops Sat 11-May-13 08:30:39

Triple I had a uti at 8 weeks only detected by urine test. I was suprised as I had no pain when weeing, no burning, nothing. Sometimes you can only tell by the test or having cloudy looking wee...

EmmaDee Sat 11-May-13 10:40:33

Hi all,

Had my scan yesterday can't believe how nervous I was, I was physically shaking in the waiting room! All good baby is the wrong way round and my placentas at the front so that explains the no feeling!

The sonographer said that in a few weeks when baby gets bigger I should be able toeel it.

Team yellow here too, hospitals policy not to tell

Triple hope all is ok and they get it sorted.

herewego2 Sat 11-May-13 11:20:07

Emma, nerves before the scan... can relate to that. Am pleased everything is ok.
My bump is now starting to make me feel out of breath, its like my lungs have shrunk, I keep huffing and puffing....

KamikazeeKid Sat 11-May-13 13:07:05

Oh no..ds has full blown chickenpox today!!!

I'm now of course in google hell reading complications and effects on me or baby :-(

Anyone else had this....this just weeks after slapped cheek scare too! Being a first time mum was definitely easier than this....ive got those worries and dcs illnesses and effects stressing me now. I've had chickenpox but even NHS site is scary reading

fl0b0t Sat 11-May-13 14:46:54

badguider- yikes..... as my husbands work is moving to a new office we thought we'd put off looking at nurseries until we know for sure where it's going to be (moving in Sept).

Emma -I was only nervous when we got grumpy sonographer! She didn't smile and I started to realise that it's a serious job and things could go wrong and..and...and... :-S

So we did our first actual baby stuff shop today! SIL and 6 month old baby visiting from tomorrow for the week (well 5 days) and we've just been sorting the bare minimum to get things sorted. Had to get sheets for the cot, some muslins, a changing mat, some blankets for the cot and a few other bits and bobs (oh and picked up a second hand baby bath for £3 today), so our first £80 properly spent. Room looks so cute with the cot made up- some VERY cute things in the sale in store including some "team yellow" Little Circus fleece blankets and changing mats reduced www.mothercare.com/Mothercare-Little-Circus-Fleece-Blanket/375025,default,pd.html

jennimoo Sat 11-May-13 15:06:41

Kamikazee - If you've had the pox just keep an eye out in case you do get any spots in the next 3 weeks, but I'm pretty sure the chances are low. I was glad DD got it (when I was 20 weeks) as now shouldn't bring it home when I've a newborn to catch it at the same time!

frogchops Sat 11-May-13 15:15:40

Just tried the kitten method of measuring my boobs. I'm confused. Round my back I measured 31... But I've not been a flippin 30 since I was 11! So I rounded up to 32. And round my boobs I was 38. 32 BLOODY E?? surely not? My normal bras are a 36B?!? Help!

KamikazeeKid Sat 11-May-13 15:17:01

Jennimoo that's what I was thinking! Glad getting out the way as I know its not good around birth or newborns - plus dealing with 2 outbreaks at once is not appealing!

Thanks for info, more than I've been told!

fl0b0t Sat 11-May-13 16:28:58

frogchops- you'd be surprised! Where and when were you last professionally measured? I was wearing a 32C for years (kinda fit) and then got measured at bravissimo (I think it was) as a 34D. M&S measured me around 32DD/34D also. I think some bras just fit differently, also there's a squillion people wearing wrong sized bras. I know I often do as my weight fluctuates a little!

frogchops Sat 11-May-13 17:31:29

I've looked at the la senza chart on their site and it reckons I should be a 36C which makes more sense. I'm sure my back is not a 32, that's tiny. And my boobs are surely not an E they seem so small!

jennimoo Sat 11-May-13 18:02:04

Kamikaze - luckily I'd asked MW at the 16 week appointment what the risks were as thought about vaccinating DD, so at least had a fair idea when it arrived! Hope your DC doesn't suffer much: DD didn't seem bothered in the slightest, just annoyed at having to stay home!

I think a lot of people find that despite wearing a 36b they're really more of a 32e, but aren't used to wearing it so tight. I find that at some times of day my bra feels too tight though so would recommend looser. As the baby grows I think you expand round the middle there anyway.

I've cheated and am probably not wearing quite the right side: just got the bag of ones from last pg down from the loft and found something roughly right. I do miss under wires though: as I was bf when I got pg it's well over 3 years since I've worn a proper bra.

Don't know if any of that makes sense as despite a nap I am totally exhausted this afternoon. And DD is trying to evict me from the sofa so she can run up and down and jump.

badguider Sat 11-May-13 18:31:05

That bra measuring doesn't work for me. i measure 35" round underneath but i'm in the last hook on my 36 bras and they're getting tight so i think i need a 38.
i measure 43" round the boobs, which with the 35 measurement would give me a FF but I'm ok in E for now and only considering going up to F to 'grow into', definitely not FF yet.

My current 36E bras are a bit tight in the band and ok-ish in the cup, I think I'll wait a bit to see if I go up a bit in the cup then order one anita maternity in 38F and see.

frogchops Sat 11-May-13 18:42:33

My 36 still leaves lines where its dug into my back a bit so I'm thinking a 32 is way too small?? Maybe I do need to go get measured, which is crap as I much prefer online shopping!!

Dorita75 Sat 11-May-13 19:19:42

I used to work in Boots baby department and measured pregnant women for bras. Although you do the method below, we'd always give a few either side (e.g. if 34C we'd suggest also trying 36B etc) as they always fit differently! I measured myself and was a 36D but have bought a 38C as that fitted better (M&S) and looked better....just trial and error I think.

DP bumped into my stomach in bed this morning (bummed me in the stomach!) so got the doppler out and all okay though more movement than usual, but so far have only used in in evenings so could be the baby just moves more in morning anyway....

I'm also feeling tired again but think it's because I wake early (before 6) even though am up till 10:30pm again these days. Also taking it easy this weekend. Have a good one everyone, hope it's not too wet where you are!

kimjayne Sat 11-May-13 23:08:28

Just lay in the bath watching my tummy move. Our monkey seems very.active this evening. It was such a peculiar sensation. I saw what looked like little kicks and then more obvious ripples when he turned over. Really weird! I called the hubby to see but he missed it all. sad our little performing monkey must have got tired.

juniper9 Sat 11-May-13 23:30:57

My Doppler turned up today and found baby's heart beat very quickly. Don't know why I held off buying one!

CharlW1 Sun 12-May-13 09:49:29

Morning all - hope everyone is having a good weekend.

I'm having a girlie day today - having made up done at Bare Minerals and then off for afternoon tea.

I know we have talked a lot about bras but is anyone wearing maternity knickers? I have been buying knickers in bigger sizes but I am alarmed at the size I am having to go up to so they are comfy!

I seem to have got my first stretch mark...on my boob! An wondering whether this is down to lack of support as my boobs have always been big & I've always worn underwired up to now...

ION went to jojo maman bebe yesterday & picked up some denim shorts and cropped jeans for the summer. Soo comfy and really very reasonable (under £30 each).

Charl, i bought a pack of m&s bikini briefs in size 18 (I normally wear a size 16 in knickers as I like them roomy, but 18 is even comfier so went for that), anyways they're perfect & i've cut the labels out so I can forget what size they were!

frogchops Sun 12-May-13 10:08:59

I bought tesco pants, the ones they call shorts. I bought a 14 which is my normal size but might have to buy some 16s. They're dead comfy tho... £4 for 4or 5.
ION its our anniversary today, 6 years together and after DP has said for the past five that cards are crap, I didn't bother this year. Of course now he's bought me one and I didn't get one for him. :-/

flipflump Sun 12-May-13 10:22:19

I could sail a yacht with my new knickers, they're huge but comfy! Glamour is out the window and comfort is in. I am a tad shy about hanging them out on the line though!!! Didn't bother with maternity, they're Tesco and do the job.

Going shopping today, I'm finding I'm much more comfortable in dresses or leggings now. Has anyone seen nice, jersey dresses. Was in mothercare world (looking at prams) yesterday and was very disappointed with the clothes selection.

ION, what pram/pushchair/buggy is everyone going for?

CharlW1 Sun 12-May-13 10:38:37

Think I will just go for comfort now and just cut the label out as Ready says smile

Congratulations Frog on your anniversary!

Flip I am the same that I find dresses and leggings a lot mire comfy now. I bought I a lovely jersey dress in Primate just in a bigger size - I have had that many compliments about it. I also got ssome little cardigans from there that I put over it.

jennimoo Sun 12-May-13 10:47:02

I need new knickers, starting to dig in sad believe but it not last time around I wore my normal ones throughout, no idea how I managed that! I guess I'm carrying more weight on my bum this time, totally goes against the theory though, had a girl last time and boy this time!

We have a Phil and teds: was from eBay so cheap but is heavy and awkward. I did (and will this time) use a sling / baby carrier mostly when I was alone as couldn't manage the buggy in and out the car! At 6 months ish it was abandoned for a lightweight umbrella fold maclaren, so I'd recommend saving some money as you'll probably want one of those while still on SMP ;)

frogchops Sun 12-May-13 11:31:27

Flip I've bought the britax bsmart 4 travel system. Was a bargain at 279, they are discontinuing it due to bringing out a three wheeled version (britax bsmart 3) hence the sale price. Was the easiest and nicest to push around kiddicare anyway! I bought it in blue (before I even knew I was team blue!) but they have it in red which is lovely.

Fozziebearmum2b Sun 12-May-13 11:43:26

Was just about to ask whether anyone could recommend a travel system or what they were going for? Seems like a minefield!

weebarra Sun 12-May-13 11:58:34

I've got a 5 year old icandy cherry from DS1. It needs a repair to the chassis but should be fine. DS2 still uses his maclaren for the school run but I'll get him proficient on his scooter before september!

I went for the Uppababy Vista...hasn't arrived yet, but reviews are very good & it includes all the extras like car seat adapters & rain covers....basket is huge so I'll have room for the shopping ;-)

JammyTummy Sun 12-May-13 13:52:23

We're getting the iCandy Peach (at least I think it's the Peach), plus the carrycot as the pushchair is only suitable from 6 months. Have already ordered the MaxiCosi pebble car seat to click into it.
I also quite liked the SilverCross Surf when we were researching, it was the one we were originally going to go for, but DH moaned about the folding mechanism (I thought it was fine), a lot!
We're incredibly lucky to have DH's parents be buying the buggy though, as buba would've been travelling in a shopping trolley otherwise, these things are so bloody expensive!

flipflump Sun 12-May-13 14:32:10

Charl, thanks for the primark recommendation. I've had an update and hopefully have enough to get me through the summer, although today feels like winter!

I'll check out the britax. Love the iCandy peach too, we're getting the pebble and base, great that they're compatible and so easy. Such a hard decision! Think we're falling heir to a McLaren, so don't need to worry about that and will be handy having an umbrella fold.

andadietcoke Sun 12-May-13 16:47:37

If everything continues to go okay we'll be getting a Bugaboo Donkey Twin which comes with carrycots, and then the MaxiCosi Pebble and the FamilyFix bases so we can use them with a higher group car seat.

MammaGnomes Sun 12-May-13 17:09:34

We're getting the icandy cherry too have admired it from afar and then went to have a look and totally love it!! Mum and step dad are buying it for us were so lucky otherwise ours too would be in a shopping trolly ha ha

Fozziebearmum2b Sun 12-May-13 17:17:41

Tried to look at the icandy, but can't find any stockists...where are you buying it from?

JammyTummy Sun 12-May-13 17:26:12

I don't think they give any details online, they only like to deal with shops. I know John Lewis have it, not sure where else though.
The FamilyFix took me by surprise, I didn't realise we needed a base so was pretty disappointed we need to buy that as well as the seat, and it costs just as bloody much!

Creamtea1 Sun 12-May-13 17:57:03

Bugaboo cameleon here, will get an m&p umbrella fold stroller type whenever we finally afford a holiday next year probably.
I did like the uppababy one too but discovered it too late after already sorting the bugaboo

RunningBear78 Sun 12-May-13 18:01:39

I am obsessed with the Out n'About Sport, but probably won't get it until after Pip arrives. Haven't really looked at anything other than off-road/running buggies. Don't think we'd really use anything else. We have been offered a couple of slings/front carriers to borrow from friends and I hope to use that primarily at the start.

On the pants front, I've jumped from a size 10 to 14 - they are sooooo big they hardly fit in my pant's draw! Love them though, super comfy.

ION I discovered (and spent a small fortune) in Decathlon. They have super supportive, and quite pretty soft bra's in sizes up to 40E. They are only £19 so quite cheap too. Also, their yoga clothes are really lovely and soft, with wide waist bands which are super comfy under the bump. Nice shorts and 3/4s.

Final shopping discovery of the day was shopping in shops for sizes 14+ = lovely things that fitted much better than maternity dresses.

Lucky it is Sunday night, no more opportunities for shopping!

badguider Sun 12-May-13 18:18:29

Hi runningbear - do you know anything about running buggies?
We've been offered a pram by a friend which I hope will do us for the first six months (plan to use a sling/carrier a lot to start with as prefer that for buses and the city I live in is all steps) and then we are looking at combined running buggies / bike trailers but they are expensive and i'm not sure which is best.... I'm the runner,and DH wants to use the trailer off-road.

RunningBear78 Sun 12-May-13 19:09:44

Badguider I've been doing a bit of research on the running buggies and have a friend who uses hers daily - and doesn't have another buggy, just slings. The main thing I've sussed is that the bigger the wheels the better they run, which is also true for walking off road. The Out n'About Sport has 16 inch wheels I think, as does the BoBgear Ironman and Baby Jogger which many on Runners World forums recommend. There are others, but most are from the US, and occasionally turn up on Ebay - my friend has a Kool Stride which she loves.

Just found this www.running4women.com/road-test-jogging-strollers/

The other alternative is one that can be used for running and as a cycling trailer, Chariot make a good one I think, but not sure about anyone else. I love the idea of these, but realistically I don't think we'd use one www.chariotcarriers.com/en/gb

Hope that helps?

I've gone for the baby jogger city mini double after much faffing about. Looks at the city select, donkey and the icandy peach but I hate the thought of one baby underneath and the donkey was £££. Plus I heard that its a bit of a donkey to expand. You'll need to report back dietcoke.

Having the small age gap means a double is a must for me.

Weighed myself at my friends and I appear to have lost weight again in the pregnant too. Didn't expect that to happen the 2nd time.

I've been so bagged up that I've been feeling sick and sluggish all weekend. Don't want to eat as I feel full to the eyeballs hmm

badguider Sun 12-May-13 20:09:54

The chariots are beautiful but i think the croozer is more our budget.

Our friend has offered to lend us a mamas and papas pramette cityscape (black) with carseat etc, which means we can save our money for the bike trailer/jogger smile

Obviously I don't know for sure how much our lives will change but right now we spend all our weekends outside in forests or parks and usually on our bikes (the kind of smooth and easy paths i'm riding now while pregnant will be rideable with a trailer).

HettySunshine Sun 12-May-13 20:16:03

I've gone for the britax b-smart 3. We're hoping it'll be nice and sturdy for nice long off-road walks. It was a recommendation from a fried and managed to get it with a bit of a discount from kiddicare.

CheeseStrawCraving Sun 12-May-13 20:29:32

We've gone for the Britax B-Dual as although this is our first we're planning on two so it seemed like good economy to buy a double now. It doesn't look like it's missing stuff as a single though IYSWIM. Got it in red from Kiddicare as it was the cheapest.

Yay frog for booking your holiday!

Rake, also pinched twatbadger. Brilliant. Shall replace my usual knobcheese/knobjockey/arsewipe. I know, I'm extremely eloquent.

CheeseStrawCraving Sun 12-May-13 20:31:55

www.baby2see.com/timeline.html

Also, this is fab for seeing how many weeks vs months pg you are. Exciting!

I like that Cheese

Just got a great deal on my changing bag ....on amazon for £15 cheaper than John Lewis & DH likes it too :-) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00B18ZFJG

That didn't work...it's the babymel satchel in boathouse teal

CharlW1 Sun 12-May-13 21:44:25

Ready that is such a lovely changing bag - very tempted myself!

I ordered a doppler today - have been umming and arring for ages as I thought Imight get quite obsessive but now I can feel baby move I don't think I will feel the need to use it all the time but it will be so lovely to hear her whenever I want too.

Manoodledo Sun 12-May-13 22:30:51

Does anyone give any credence to the idea that different shaped bumps might reflect the sex of the baby? This will be DC3 and the bump is so different from DS1 and DS2. It sits much higher and is more out the front and less all the way round. I find a small part of me is hoping that this might mean it's a girl this time...

MammaGnomes Sun 12-May-13 22:48:01

Fozie if you go on icandy website and put your postcode in they give you your nearest stockist! Most places won't give you a price online so ring round and get quotes and most places will match your lower one!
We are getting ours (chassis pushchair carrycot and a maxi cosi car seat and adapter) for £550

flipflump Sun 12-May-13 23:02:55

Ready, that's a gorgeous bag. I've gone for the PacaPod Napier in driftwood. Can't wait to fill it!

Think we've finally made a pushchair decision, Bugaboo is the favourite! Time to get ordering - exciting.

Hope everyone is feeling well. Apart from aching hips in bed, I'm loving this trimester, long may the feeling last.

Oh dear, I fear my baby spending may be escalating. Have just discovered the eBay app (soo much easier than the actual website!) and have managed to acquire the Tiny Love Classic Mobile that I've had my eye on for weeks at a bargain price...must not get addicted, must not get addicted.

OMG flip a nappy bag that holds a laptop!! Dare I ask if the laptop is for u or the baby?! Very nice tho ;-)

flipflump Sun 12-May-13 23:16:25

Ha, there won't be a laptop going in there. Just more paraphanelia!! Unless of course we have a child genius and then baby will NEED its own laptop wink

CharlW1 Mon 13-May-13 03:45:12

Having read in a lot of the various booklets about pregnancy impacting sleep - I know now how this feels. I have been wide away since 00:15 and I'm now lying on the sofa still wide awake - very frustrating.

Thankgoodness I bought new make up yesterday - I hope the anti fatigue promises of the foundation work its magic today smile

charl, I'm not sure if this is coincidence or not but I recently bought some Mum&Me Relax and unwind sleep mist and have slept like a log ever since.

Kittenkatzen Mon 13-May-13 07:33:35

Morning ladies, hope everyone had a lovely weekend smile

In knicker news, I'm still in my regular size 14 ones but may have to buy a few 16 before the end I think - I e never been a fan of big pants though tbh. I have heard rumours of over-bump knickers - the thought of which, quite frankly, scares me!!

We've gone for the Mamas & Papas Mylo in lime jelly/welly green. It's sitting in what will be the nursery at the moment with a little Pooh bear keeping baby's place warm! It's suitable from birth so we didn't bother with the separate carrycot, and we're going to pick up the adaptor that means you can click the car seat into the buggy base for short trips which will be handy. It also collapses with one hand which we though was brilliant.

cheesestraw that link is great - baby is 55% cooked grin

I've not looked at changing bags yet but will definitely be checking out some of your links!

charl hope you managed to get some sleep!

Kittenkatzen Mon 13-May-13 07:43:44

Oh, and a weeny hijack with a message for frog......can you pop over to the JSing grads fred when you get a sec please - you are being missed grin

kimjayne Mon 13-May-13 09:03:19

well, I had lots of lovely rest over the weekend in the hope it might fill me with some energy in time for Monday morning! sad no such luck sad I feel knackered today. Blleeuugghhh. I want my bed.

JammyTummy Mon 13-May-13 09:04:18

Ooh I'm going for a PacaPod too, can't wait to get my mitts on it!
Our next big purchase is a nursing chair for the baby's room, thinking of getting one of those gliding ones.

flipflump Mon 13-May-13 09:38:37

Jammy, the gliding ones are fab. I've used them lots at work. They are very comfortable, the pockets are great for stories etc when baby is a bit older. The foot stool makes them super comfy.

Just had my first major emotional outburst. Dr's appointment was at 9.10 to try and get a letter authorising me to fly whilst pregnant. Dr turns up late so have to wait until 9.50 to see her. Arrive in room and she has a go at me for not having my contraception reviewed (err I'm pregnant!) and then refuses to write letter as she doesn't deal with pregnant women!

Normally I would have got angry, instead I fled the room and ended up sobbing uncontrollably whilst trying to book a new appointment. Still crying whilst writing this....now need to control myself so that I can re-do my make-up and head to work. Easier said than done!

frogchops Mon 13-May-13 10:52:35

Oh. Im never missed! I'll head over there if i can find it!!
I love the pacapod thing... But thinking about how unorganised I am and how I throw everything in my big work bag and root around In The bottom of it for stuff I'm thinking who am I kidding about keeping that all tidy.

Wincher Mon 13-May-13 10:53:57

What does she mean she doesn't deal with pregnant women?! That's mad! I don't blame you for having a hormonal outburst!

It's a mystery to me, I didn't even have a medical issue! All I needed was a letter stating the bleeding obvious! The airline won't know that she's not a specialist.

Have made myself feel better by crying again/laughing at myself to the receptionist at work and then to the other pregnant woman in the office. Fortunately there aren't any 'important people' in the office today!

JammyTummy Mon 13-May-13 11:52:20

Omg Ready I think I may have actually trashed her office in a fit of rage confused... That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! How are you to know who she does and doesn't bloody deal with?!? Nasty cow!

On that note, do you have to have a GP note to fly? We're away to Greece on Wednesday and nothing like that had ever occurred to me.

I think at this stage it's just to prove you're not past the 32 week cut off, as you could get refused travel just cos someone thinks you look 'too pregnant'. Worth checking with your airline definitely- maybe taking your notes with you would suffice. My airline stipulates a letter from the gp before 32 weeks so I'd rather have it than risk being rejected at the plane door!

weebarra Mon 13-May-13 12:28:06

I'm going to Mallorca in June and will be 29 weeks going and 31.5 coming back. We're flying with jet2 and I need a letter if I'm over 28 weeks. My mw will do it at the 28 week appt.
I needed one with DS2 as well but no one ever asked to see it.
Btw "doesn't deal with pregnant women"?? Don't blame you for bursting into tears!

jemimahpuddleduck Mon 13-May-13 12:33:37

I'm off to Turkey on Thurs flying with easyjet and they don't need a note until 28 weeks either although I an going to make sure my green notes are in my flight bag just in case.

Out of interest is anybody who is going to fly or has flown in pregnancy wearing flight socks? Mine have just arrived and they won't fit right over my calf... Are they supposed to?

badguider Mon 13-May-13 12:37:15

I do wonder about the airlines saying they want a 'gp note' - my gp hasn't seen me since i got pregnant so would only be writing based on reading my notes which i'd have with me anyway. I don't think i'll be flying again now (and can totally get away with claiming to not even be 20 weeks right now) but i think the airlines are the ones in the wrong here trying to cover their asses - gps have much more important things to be doing! (NOT that that excuses your horrible gp taking it out on you ready angry)

jennimoo Mon 13-May-13 13:33:43

Ready - I'd write and complain!

I think it's a good plan to try and have a note / proof of how pg you are as there's always a chance they'll decide you look too pg and won't let you on the plane! I had one last time for a holiday at about 27 weeks and my (eccentric) GP was happy to do it but I did feel it was a waste of his time!

I tried asking the midwife to do it last time I saw her but she told me it had to be the gp.....Just neglected to mention that I couldnt see just any old gp!!

I'm a bit annoyed with myself for getting upset instead of angry, but the receptionist did offer me an evening appointment for tomoro so maybe the emotional outburst helped get me some pity points! Maybe I should turn on the tears more often....

Kittenkatzen Mon 13-May-13 13:59:31

Awww ready don't e annoyed with yourself - I'd have definitely done the same even without being upduffed! She sounds like a witch anyway thanks

Anyone else suffering with back pain? For a few weeks now I've not been able to stand or walk for long periods of time (like over an hour or so), which i had assumed was pretty standard being as my bump has popped out now, but in the last couple of days I've been getting shooting pains down the right side of my back, almost in my bum - it's really painful and makes me gasp out loud (which is embarrassing on the train!) am wondering if i might have trapped a nerve or something. Anyone else?

Runningbear/badguider I have the BOBgear Ironman and it is great. DS will still fit it for ages yet - it takes up to 30kg - but you can't use it before five months as the seat doesn't have the right back support for littlies. It is also properly huge, most car boot sizes won't fit it easily, but it has quick release things to take the wheels off. We didn't have much of a problem with its size because I used it daily to walk to work so no need for car boot transfer (but on that point, Skoda Octavia is the way to go if you want people-carrier level of boot capacity without paying people carrier price or feeling like a minibus driver...!)

Had 24 week MW appointment today, all good. The doppler wasn't working very well, so she had to listen with the trumpet thingy first. Prodded around to find which way baby was lying, and managed to get me in a really painful spot at the top right of my bump. It felt like poking a very ripe bruise. Twice! Anyway, she found heartbeat at last and it was 140-145. I have anterior placenta too, but have been feeling loads of movements in the past couple of weeks - getting quite predictable like ten/twenty minutes after eating, or after I sit down on the tube and relax after my walk to the station. Nothing since the appointment though. Might have to eat some chocolate...

Didn't get weighed but did get my bump measured, spot on 25cm. I have ridiculously low blood pressure (99/58 today) which is quite normal for me, but she said next appointment at 28 weeks needs blood taken so to make sure I'd had lots to drink as it will help it not be a tedious slow trickle. I asked when we start talking about birth options, as I would like a home birth and it's already the choice ticked on the front of my notes, and she says at the 36 week appointment they do a sort of 'final booking in' and also someone comes to your home to check it's not a crack den see where you would put the birthing pool and the Entonox supply. They even provide a pool (allegedly, although I've heard sometimes they cut it a bit fine and it might not be there in time) but they "don't let you" give birth at home before 37 weeks.

Oh and she wrote a MATB1 form that states my earlier (scan) EDD not LMP, so I will have to declare Mat Leave from 28th Aug rather than (theoretically!) work up to the bitter end...! I will probably still have some work to do from home but whether I am officially on leave or not doesn't really matter. I have a very generous Mat Pay package so I want to maximise the value I am giving to work before disappearing for a while.