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December 2013 part 2.

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TakingTheStairs Thu 25-Apr-13 08:57:26

Just starting a new thread as we're starting to run out of room on the first. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/a1716486-December-2013#38680515

QueenofWhispers Thu 25-Apr-13 09:28:35

Hi!!! I've come in again because I'm avoiding work.

inkymomma Thu 25-Apr-13 09:45:34

Off for the next 4 days :-) woop. Attending my dads wedding tomorrow. Had to resort to buying a new dress as all my others are either not dressy enough or do not fit my pot belly that has suddenly appeared blush

LadyMedea Thu 25-Apr-13 10:16:02

I think this is the latest list and updated my due date!

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 2nd December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

katemeister Thu 25-Apr-13 10:53:27

Hello, thought I would say hi on the new thread. My EDD is around 7th Dec - bit unsure of exact dates as I got pregnant straight after coming off the pill, before having a period. Scan is on 8th May!

NomDeClavier Thu 25-Apr-13 10:59:37

Place marking.

Someone add me to the list please? I'm on the app and can't copy.

NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2

Thankfully my clothes currently seem ok. I just bought 3 new pairs of jeans as well! But I didn't show until 24 weeks with DS (not that I'm expecting to be so lucky this time) so I might get some wear out of them!

Anyone else having weird dreams? I dreamt DS had measles last night, and I cooked a bottle of Dior perfume in a bolognaise....

Hey everyone. I'm sorry for those who've had bleeding I've got my fingers crossed all is well. I am still being sick at least once or twice a day and feeling sick constantly 24/7 which is fun not am keeping some food and drink down but still hungry and thirsty a lot.
Got my booking in on tues so will see what happens.

QueenofWhispers Thu 25-Apr-13 12:10:30

I've been having some amazingly erotic dreams lately.

I am SOOO excited about getting new baby gear. I was totally craving a new stroller this year but my son is a bit too old for one. I want twins so I can get the bugaboo donkey---it looks soooo cool.

QueenofWhispers Thu 25-Apr-13 12:12:28

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 2nd December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

updated list with NomDeClavier xx

b0nker5Mum Thu 25-Apr-13 12:18:57

Hi all

Just marking my place...

Fingers crossed for those having bleeding....

b0nker5Mum Thu 25-Apr-13 12:20:08

Whoops... Pressed send too early....

I'm still getting rotten cramps and feeling queasy but thankfully no actual sickness yet! Hope you all feel better soon....

astonvanilla Thu 25-Apr-13 12:52:57

Hello! Can someone add me too please? I'm expecting baby #2 on 26 December. Seeing the gp tomorrow- does anyone know if I have to take a urine sample with me as I'd rather do it at home than try and do it with my 2 year old in tow! Thanks and congrats everyone!

featherbag Thu 25-Apr-13 13:55:45

General rule of pregnancy - every HCP you see will want a urine sample, every time!

2Labradors Thu 25-Apr-13 15:00:16

Hello, shiny new thread!

Just updating, as I had a scan at EPU this morning following a bleed yesterday morning. Little prawn was there, looking good and heart beating away. They couldn't explain the bleed but said it could have been bruising around the uterus. Has been a very scary few days for us but we're so relieved.

They measured the baby and gave me a new due date of 1st December but proper due date will be confirmed at 12 week scan.

I got my letter through yesterday confirming my booking in appointment this Tuesday which I can get excited about now that I know everything seems ok.

Hope everyone is well x

2Labradors Thu 25-Apr-13 15:08:28

feather I just popped back to the old thread to see if there was any news. Glad the bleeding has stopped and hope all goes well next week. It is hard to do nothing. My GP said the same yesterday and I did spend a lot of time lying down yesterday but the stuff that kids & DH kept leaving around was doing my head in. Have you got Netflix? Maybe watch a box set on there to keep you entertained for a bit. I've just rented The Hobbit through virgin and going to watch it later or tomorrow. I don't do sitting around either though.

TakingTheStairs Thu 25-Apr-13 15:43:30

YAY 2Labs that's wonderful news xx

kyz1981 Thu 25-Apr-13 15:47:57

Thats Fantastic news 2Labs- So pleased x

MildredH Thu 25-Apr-13 15:54:42

Marking place on new thread..

Great news 2labs must be big relief..

Feather- it's a tricky one. In common sense terms of course you should be fine to do that but sometimes they could be very funny about it. Could you call up HR and ask semi-anonymously? Or are you in a nursing equivalent of BMA- just to get advice?

Maybe overeacting. Quite possibly fine..

violetbean Thu 25-Apr-13 16:02:28

Hi, just updating the list...

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
violetbean EDD 5th December. Baby #1
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
astonvanilla EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

PistachioTruffle Thu 25-Apr-13 16:13:23

Hello all, hope everyone is doing ok. Scan tomorrow, relieved its nearly here at last but getting quite nervous too.

Ganetgob Thu 25-Apr-13 17:28:45

Excellent news 2labs.

Hope everything goes well tomorrow for you pistachio! Everything crossed!

I am so tired. More tired than I have ever been. I have been going to bed between 8 and 9 but it hasn't helped. I'm struggling to concentrate at work so I'm struggling a bit. I also know its going to get worse before it gets better. Trying not to moan about it too much, but it's just constant. Who knew baby-growing would be so exhausting!!

Hope everyone is alright today! smile

Gooseysgirl Thu 25-Apr-13 17:48:17

Marking place..
Still struggling on with nausea here but have managed to eat a bit more today. Had a vomiting bug Sun/Mon which I thought was MS but then turned out loads of people at work had it!! Deepest sympathies to those who have vomiting on top of nausea, it is not funhmm

b0nker5Mum Thu 25-Apr-13 18:01:16

Ganet.... I'm the same.... By 5pm I'm almost asleep standing on the train...

Pistachio... Everything crossed for you... x

Ganetgob Thu 25-Apr-13 18:31:52

I'm glad it's not just me b0nker5! I feel really useless. I have no idea how I'm going to cope when I'm this tired (or more) and have to look after a baby at the same time. Is it too early to go for a bath and start getting ready for bed?

On the subject of baths, I love hot ones. I have tried to tone down the heat, but I'm not sure what is too hot! Any ideas anyone? (I think I asked this ages ago but then more interesting conversations came up)

weechops Thu 25-Apr-13 18:34:20

Marking place. Has anyone seen any nice maternity jeans? I usually wear high waisted skinny jeans (because of c section overhang) so thought I could maybe fit maternity ones now. I am so bloated come the evening!

ccsays Thu 25-Apr-13 18:52:16

Horrible day symptom wise; nausea, sore back, constipation AND diarrhoea (wtf?), breathless and generally tired. And we're moving into our new house tomorrow (first time buyers. Great timing, right?) and for some bizarre reason the smell of packing tape makes me want to vom. Bleurgh. Generally feeling a bit sorry for myself, hope everyone else is holding up ok!

GinSoaked Thu 25-Apr-13 19:07:21

Hello ladies! Room for a small one? We've just had an early scan, which confirmed I do in fact have a bean onboard smile Due date is 14 Dec and this is baby #1. I think there are a few others with the same DD? It's an ivf baby, the result of a frozen embryo transfer, after 2 failed fresh ivf cycles, so feels very precious and I am exceptionally nervous about things working out!

I've been discharged from the clinic to my gp and am thinking I'm going to have to choose a hospital for scans etc fairly soon! I have no idea which one to pick. Is anyone else in south London? Any recommendations?

Anyway waves to all. Sorry about the MS. Lots of dry wretching in the gin household. In fact even typing the word gin makes me feel a bit sick...

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 25-Apr-13 19:19:13

Hello all, lovely new thread !

Queen my friend has the Donkey for her toddler and now 6 month old. I was/am very jealous. Even for one baby, just having the extra bucket thing at the side to store child paraphernalia is good (eyeing up my knackered old Bee for a trade in)

NomDeClavier Thu 25-Apr-13 19:39:39

Ganet I usually aim for around 38C. Your core temp needs to stay around there. As long as you don't get overheated (which if you're not fully submerged you won't) it's okay.

13loki Thu 25-Apr-13 20:11:45

Evening all. Hope everything is OK featherbag and 2labs

Still nauseous all the time, but better than my pregnancies with DS and DD, where I was sick about 5 times a day from 5 weeks to about 25 weeks.
So tired.

Holly1977 Thu 25-Apr-13 21:06:08

Hey guys, great news feather. Fingers crossed for you and everyone with any worrying symptoms. what's the earliest i can expect to see a midwife do we think?

I've had a great day off work, had my hair done :-)

Re something to do with enforced time off (I hate this too) I'm hopelessly addicted to The Simpsons Tapped Out game. You may regret ever starting it but it definitely takes up a lot of time! ;-)

Having been horribly constipated, I've just had a rather dramatic episode of diarrhoea. (sorry!) slightly worried it's something I ate but given that I have colitis, it could just be my body being awkward as usual. or maybe i overdid it with the lactulose, oj and fruit! honestly after so many days of constipation, it's quite a relief!

what do we think about eating pre cooked chicken from a supermarket?

quite tired today as once again i was awake in the night from 1 hour +. I wake up for a wee at 4 or 5am then can't get back to sleep. it's very frustrating. good job i didn't have to get up for work today, though my plans for doing loads of stuff around the house obviously fell through. though i must say i'm quite enjoying lazing around, listening to the radio, reading, playing my stupid game and generally being a lazy bugger. i've only got 8 or so months left to do this EVER so i'm going to enjoy it!

Dasie Thu 25-Apr-13 21:07:31

Feather I work in A&E too, a Clinical Sister, can't get away from the dreaded nights though sad

Hey all - just checking in on this shiny new thread

I have my first lot of nights starting Sunday - dreading it as I feel worse at night . Will just have to see how I go!

Dasie Thu 25-Apr-13 21:32:59

Baby I wasn't too bad on my nights as I just felt as bad/knackered as I would normally have felt smile

harry78 Thu 25-Apr-13 21:51:15

Hi all...just coming over from the other thread. I'm just asking about internal scans. I have one tomorrow at 6wks + 5 because I have had some brown discharge. For those who have had them, did your partners go along? I'm wondering what I will see because the midwife doesn't think they will be able to tell me much...

FluffyDucky Thu 25-Apr-13 22:07:19

2labs, yaay!
Weechops, I gave in yesterday at 7 weeks and bought some from New Look (jeans and trackie style) The jeans are full mat throusers, over the bump and I got a size up to allow for growth. My normal jeans were so tight it was painful. I've been living in my pjs in the evenings, may try out the jeans next week when we go our for dinner and to see Bill Bailey, no doubt the bloat will be full on!
I'm so glad I've got maternity bras, so much comfier!

Soopermum1 Thu 25-Apr-13 22:10:06

Hi Harry

I had an internal scan a week or two ago, was absolutely fine. Got a really clear picture. I was about 7 weeks, but suspect tubby tum was hindering visibility blush

It's not as bad as a smear, they put latex or something on the probe thing, push it on up and then keep it in and move it around for a few minutes. Not painful at all.

I ddin't have DH with me. I'm rather an unsentimental sort. See scans as medical things, so figured I would treat this just like any other appointment but I have to say when I saw the bean I shed a little tear. The image was v clear, could see where the head was and where the legs were starting, and the heartbeat was very clear, so at about 7 weeks there was plenty to see.

At the 12 weeks there is so much more to see, little hands etc. Think the staff are more geared up for having partners at that scan, there's more time to coo over the pics are the sonographer has to take some time checking things out. For the 7 week scan it was a quick check it was there, that there was a heartbeat and how long it was. They also checked out my ovaries while they were there, a bit random, but heh, good use of the opportunity I suppose

Soopermum1 Thu 25-Apr-13 22:15:39

Got an event to go to this weekend and been trying on clothes, it's depressing.

I instantly went up a cup size in bra, no problem, boobs hurt a lot so know that's just boob bloating or whatever...

However, I have become really thick waisted but in reality the baby is tiny and my womb is about the size of a lemon, so I can only assume I'm piling on the pounds from having given up smoking.

Got offered a seat on the underground, I'm only about 8 weeks or something like that (lost count a little)

Last time I was preg I ddin't show for ages, my weight barely changed and I certainly didn't growp such enormous boobs so early on in things.

Weescottie Thu 25-Apr-13 22:42:33

Hi all, just checking my place. Fingers crossed for everyone with spotting.

I'm still cramping and bloated. I've also been exhausted this week. I've not had a decent night sleep in a the last week due to overtime in evenings and weekend. Also been feeling a bit nauseous but that might just be the mixture of stress and tiredness!
Hoping to go shopping this weekend as desperately in need of some new bras and more flattering work clothes. Not sure whether to go up a size or for maternity...Also, what have you guys done in terms of bras- just got a 'normal' bra in s bigger size or gone for maternity bra? Just figure I'll want something I can grow into!

QueenofWhispers Fri 26-Apr-13 03:30:46


I do like the Donkey--but I can't justify it unless I have twins. I'm pretty sure it's not twins. I wish it was though, that would be perfect...and painful.

readyornot2011 Fri 26-Apr-13 04:15:50

Ok first of all fingers crossed for all those with bleeding and scans coming up.

I realise this is trivial in comparison

but can't sleep and need to vent. MiL and Fil have just arrived today from England for a last minute break. Which is nice, MiL and I have had our ups and downs but have been getting on well recently and no doubt they'll treat us to some nice lunches out.

As far as I was aware the plan was they were here for 2 nights then off into Paris for 4 nights including their anniversary then back here for 1 night then we were all booked on the same ferry back to England as we have longstanding long weekend with them planned for nieces christening.

This evening over dinner they casually tell us they have booked a hotel in Paris for Tuesday and will be with us the rest of the time!!! I don't know if DH got it wrong on the phone or they just changed their mind but I could have cried there and then. I don't know how I'm gong to cope catering for and entertaining them, I'm barely coping just with DH & DD. DH does help but from Sat (when we thought they were going into Paris) he is on lates at work so will barely be here. DH's lates are usually my recharge time, I don't bother to 'cook' just have jacket spuds or pasta and slob front of west wing(once DD's in bed). Now my 5 days of much needed slobbing has turned into damn exhausting hard work. Even when they go, we're going with them!!! But at least she'll do the cooking at her house and she's very good.

Also gutted but once we found that they were staying we had to tell them about the pregnancy, we maybe could have hidden for 2 nights but not for what.... The next 11 nights!!!! (Apart from Tuesday) didn't want to tell anyone until after the 12 week scan after what we went through last time. Now I should really tell my parents but I just don't want to, not yet.

Hopefully now they know I'm pregnant I'll get a bit of help and maybe some chance to rest if they take DD. I won't bet on it though, siL (their daughter) is also pregnant with #2 and gets terrible morning sickness and MiL was saying tonight 'she's not coping even now so god knows what it'll be like when the baby comes, she keeps texting to ask me over to help but so far I've always been busy'
I said 'so she is coping on her own then, she is just finding it difficult, WHICH IT IS!' Yes.. This is the kind of conversation we have....

Now ive barely slept because its too damn hot. DD will be awake in a couple of hours and i just want to cry. How I am going to get through the next 11 days sob sad

johnnycomelurky Fri 26-Apr-13 07:51:31

Oh ready that sounds awful! It's horrible feeling so trapped in your own home sad Can you be blunt and say that you need them to pitch in as you feel rubbish? Doesn't sound like they're very sensitive though.

NomDeClavier Fri 26-Apr-13 08:01:06

Not trivial at all ready. ILs are exhausting at the best of times and my MIL is super helpful. <narrows eyes> I'm trying to work out where you are. Ferry to the UK and Paris being worth it for a night sound like you might be near me, but hot isn't really a word in our vocab. Except yesterday in direct sun!

Hats off to all you nurses! It's a demanding job even when you're not growing a whole new person and fighting back waves of sickness.

I find internal scans really weird but my DH would probably kill me if I didn't have him come along to hear the heartbeat and for emotional support.

You keep missing me off the list! My EDD is 21st December smile baby #2.

Use a baby bath thermometer for baths. Can't be too hot then :p I can't relax in the bath any more though!

I'm going to be working on an integrated care team with district nurses from June. I hope nurses are nice ;)

readyornot2011 Fri 26-Apr-13 08:08:30

Nom, I'm SE of Paris not too far from Fontainebleau. DH has just taken DD so I can have a lie in and I'm on MN, very naughty!

readyornot2011, your MIL sounds like a bit of a pain! It's only 11 days though and hopefully it'll go quickly.

I was in two minds about telling anyone about my pregnancy too but I figure that if I had to lose another baby I'd probably need the support so it's easier to let my close family and friends know now. Just hope it doesn't come to that!

b0nker5Mum Fri 26-Apr-13 09:11:34

Harry... Sorry I didn't reply, I was in bed asleep by 8.30... My partner did go with me... And I was about 6 weeks +5 days, heard the heartbeat.

Today my daughter noticed my fingers have swollen.... Is that normal??

featherbag Fri 26-Apr-13 09:16:17

Hi Dasie! I'm off nights for the foreseeable, although not due to the pregnancy, others who really like nights have gladly taken them off my hands as my DH really struggled while I was doing nights. He usually copes fine but has had a lot to deal with affecting his own health recently, so didn't want to put more pressure on him as he's very isolated when I'm on nights.

Mildred, I did ask the union but they were less than useless and on further thought, this is an interview for my dream job which I'm applying for with my boss's blessing (they'll even keep my old job open for 6 months in case I don't like it), so there was never really any chance of me not going unless actually physically unable. Going to go looking for a suitable outfit at the weekend - tummy seems to be expanding rapidly so need something forgiving yet smart!

featherbag Fri 26-Apr-13 09:18:30

Just got my re-scan appointment through, it's next Thursday morning. All I seem to do lately is sit and worry and wait for scans. My lovely parents have taken DS off my hands until tomorrow morning, so I really can rest for a bit. Although I just fell over trying to save a box of soap powder tipping over my kitchen floor, and now have a very sore back and a vacuum cleaner full of Surf confused

TakingTheStairs Fri 26-Apr-13 10:17:06

Michelle Pop yourself on the list if you keep getting missed off it, then you'll be there forever more smile

kyz1981 Fri 26-Apr-13 10:40:45

Feather - I have done that so many times - rice is a favorite of mine to knock over- My DD also likes to make Snow out of polystyrene - the static makes hoovering it up a mission- Enjoy the time to yourself - my two are both at nursery of Friday - Really enjoying the peace.

Good Luck for all those being scanned today.

I went and got my maternity notes from the GP today and got my bounty pack- Full of really useful information recycling but did get a sample of decaf tea- can't stand tea. I finally feel PG now I have my notes - a bit strange since I have horrible MS and have had 2 scans, but seeing the trusty notes brought it all back..

Going to go and try and find some maternity jeans soon I look like a balloon already - any ideas? I hated the New look ones and Next were an odd fit on me!, has anyone tried Gap maternity Jeans before? - Gap did not really do much maternity stuff when I was Pg with my DCs.

Hope everyone has a lovely Friday.

I liked H&M jeans last time and they often have sale items in the maternity section.

Bonkers, that sounds like water retention maybe? I don't think it is anything to worry about. Body temperature also causes swelling hands sometimes too. I don't know about anyone else but my body feels like a hot water bottle!

Got a automated call to confirm my reassurance scan next week and I was shaking just at that. I'm going to be a nervous wreck through this pregnancy! It doesn't even feel 100% real yet and I'm shaky with nerves!

b0nker5Mum Fri 26-Apr-13 11:22:03

Thanks Michelle, I thought it was too early for water retention but I guess not!

I'm out for a work lunch today.... And I'm vegi... Not sure what to eat as most vegi options are full of goats cheese or other soft cheese... Haven't told a sole yet... (Apart from daughter and partner!) one of the other girls at work keeps looking down at my belly... ! Not sure there is any reason why she would guess... But making me paranoid!!!

Hope the scans are going well...

PistachioTruffle Fri 26-Apr-13 11:39:03

Hello all, happy news this morning! Healthy little bean seen on scan with a heartbeat, measuring about 6+4 and looking good for this stage grin

I know there's a long way to go yet, but I'm feeling much more reassured having seen it!

kyz1981 Fri 26-Apr-13 11:48:06

Yay - So pleased Pistachio. x

kyz1981 Fri 26-Apr-13 11:49:54

Thanks Michelle, I'd completely forgot H&M - I may have to pay them a visit this afternoon.

b0nker5Mum Fri 26-Apr-13 11:54:24

Great news pistachio... xx

MildredH Fri 26-Apr-13 12:25:02

Brilliant news Pistachio! It's so reassuring isn't it..

I saw an interview with Karen Brady who said she had a scan every Monday in her pregnancy for reassurance! ( I guess that's what 9 million squidules buys you!).

I've just had date through for 12 week scan on May 23rd which suddenly makes me feel like I'm finally getting there..

Think we're going to pay for another early scan in a week or so. I know it seems bonkers but I think the 75 quid is worth the reassurance that alls still well.

TakingTheStairs Fri 26-Apr-13 12:55:32

Pistachio, fantastic news. Hoorah!

Mildred If another scan is in your budget then go for it! I know I like the reassurance. My consultant is scanning me every week until week 12 just so I can see how the little bean is progressing, it's great!
(and that really wasn't meant to be a stealth boast, I'm only seeing a consultant because I've a decrepit back & luckily have health insurance. I would not have the funds personally!)

featherbag Fri 26-Apr-13 13:54:28

Great news Pistachio!

I really need to have a word with myself, I'm getting so anxious and stressed and I'm usually literally THE most laid-back person you could ever meet so it's affecting me badly. The doc I saw yesterday told me that I'm very likely to have another prem due to the shape of my uterus. I've worked so hard to lose weight and improve my fitness levels before TTC thinking it would help my chances of carrying to term, and find out now it was likely all for naught, as soon as baby is out of room (which was at 32/40 last time), it'll push the eject button. That's if I even have a live baby in there any more. I'm finding it so hard to stay positive, I'm really struggling.

NomDeClavier Fri 26-Apr-13 14:53:53

Feather surely they know you're at risk of prem labour and will consider meds and bed rest the minute you have any kind of contraction? It may not stop things, of course, but it's something any decent doc will be aware of?

Hurrah for early scans and beans with beats.

I have an appt for next week with my GP, so hopefully a scan not long after that and referrals. I'll feel better once I have them in hand. Kind of in limbo at the moment, which is a new experience because with DS I found out much later.

featherbag Fri 26-Apr-13 15:21:18

It's a question of space - my uterus is bicornuate, so baby grows in one 'horn' or the other, essentially halving the normal amount of room it has to grow in. So when there's no further room for growth - eviction. My last labour was very, very badly managed and then lied about by a consultant when I complained, so although its written in big red letters all over my notes that if that consultant comes near me I'll go to a different hospital, I'm afraid I have zero faith in being looked after, although I really can't fault the NICU that looked after DS.

2Labradors Fri 26-Apr-13 15:27:56

Feather sending you some positive vibes. Hopefully you will be able to ask lots of questions between now and then and you're midwife/doctor will get a plan in place an reassure you.

I've been bleeding again this morning. Trying not to have a total freak out. I went back to the GPs, as per the advice given yesterday. It was a different GP from Wednesday but he's advised to watch & wait over the weekend and call back on Monday if there's been more blood so that I can be referred back to EPU. My heart stops each time I see blood, and even though there was a heartbeat yesterday, and baby was measured correct for dates, I convince myself of the worst. It's just awful. I'm just hoping & praying that its stopped. I thought that maybe the internal scan yesterday aggravated whatever bled on Wednesday which is the reason for a bit more blood. But, that's self diagnosing to make myself feel a bit better.

featherbag Fri 26-Apr-13 15:33:57

It's crap 2labs, isn't it? I, like you, just want everything to settle down so I can try and enjoy being pregnant!

MildredH Fri 26-Apr-13 16:07:00

Feather & 2labs: I know I've posted this before but will again as I've found this massively helpful especially at times when I'm feeling less hopeful..

Research has shown that if you see a heartbeat at 6 weeks of pregnancy, the chances of the pregnancy continuing are 78%.

A heartbeat at 8 weeks increases the chance of a continuing pregnancy to 98% and at 10 weeks that goes up to 99.4%.

So things could still go wrong and sadly sometimes do, but as long as there is a heartbeat, the risk of miscarriage decreases as the weeks go by.

From Miscarriage Assoc website.

Hope it helps..

harry78 Fri 26-Apr-13 16:16:58

Hoorah! Scan today and there was a bean with a beat! grin

lisbapalea Fri 26-Apr-13 16:47:48

Yay - congrats to Pistachio and Harry for your early scans - lovely news to have before the weekend!

2Labradors Fri 26-Apr-13 18:12:31

mildred thank you so much for posting that. It really has given me a boost, 98% is good odds.

I've totally changed how I feel about this pregnancy. I was at weight watchers before I fell pregnant and very near an ideal weight for me. When I fell pregnant, and I'm being very honest here, I felt upset that I would be gaining weight again, it bothered me quite a bit.

After having these bleeds I don't give a sh*t about my weight gain, the piles that I expect, possibly more stretch marks and the real possibility that my boobs will reach my ankles after breast feeding for a 3rd time. I just want this baby to stick and be healthy.

Congratulations to those who have had scans today

Penguinita Fri 26-Apr-13 18:48:00

Hi all, I'm a newbie here, can I join you lovely ladies? I've really enjoyed reading the thread, it is great to know there are others out there in the same boat that I can obsess over all my pg worries with.

My EDD is 7th Dec, baby #1. I'm pretty clueless about it all really. Looking forward to being 8 weeks exactly tomorrow, it feels like a milestone, 20% of the way there!

I've been pretty lucky so far, I've had a range of symptoms but all fairly mild. Sometimes I wonder if it's all in my head and I'm not really pregnant at all. But one look at the ginormous melons straining to escape from my shirt reassures me. Apparently my mum had no symptoms and didn't even realise she was pregnant with me until 3 and a half months! What?! shock

Hi everyone I'm so pleased at all the little beans with heartbeats. I'm still muddling along being sick and feeling sick. Just getting thru each day. Ds told his key workers at nursery that mummy has a baby in her tummy, inevitable really as we've not hidden it from him and he knows I'm not well.
Hi penguinita <jealous of your lack of symptoms>

FluffyDucky Fri 26-Apr-13 19:36:28

Has anyone else had any food aversions? Normally I love sandwiches (even just bread & butter*marg) but over this week the smell and taste of marg is really off putting and bread is maiing me even more bunged up, I have been struggling to eat my lunch!
Just bought some posh pot noddles style things for lunch to try tomorrow.

Hit the bran flakes big style this morning. Farting like a trooper all day lol but still feel full and bloated/slow.

I've just realised I moan so much here about being constipated! I'm sorry but so much easier than to others

QueenofWhispers Fri 26-Apr-13 19:36:31

I am every soo very hungry.

QueenofWhispers Fri 26-Apr-13 19:39:28

ever so hungry

weechops Fri 26-Apr-13 20:14:32

I seem to be having the same craving as I did with Ds, I wonder if this bean is another boy hmmm. Philly on hot buttery toast btw yum smile

QueenofWhispers Fri 26-Apr-13 20:31:15

i couldn't find toast...had to settle for a low calorie croissant+ salted organic butter (heavenly) + Smuckers Grape jam---

it tasted like my child hood -the croissant.

inkymomma Fri 26-Apr-13 20:51:24

I've just got a craving for scrambled eggs on wholemeal toast so DH is kindly cooking it for me

inkymomma Fri 26-Apr-13 21:06:35

That may be my new favourite thing to eat smile

QueenofWhispers Fri 26-Apr-13 21:10:47

i hate most men during pregnancy, but I really love my dh+ds ridiculously more.

i'm having a baby!!! yayayayayayayayay!!!! we all are. woohooo!

SadPander Fri 26-Apr-13 21:13:44

Hi Ladies, hope you're all doing okay, could I join please? I'm expecting no 1 on the 31st December (according to my calculations). No idea what I'm doing really, have filled in some forms at GP surgery and called the hospital to book my scan and 1st appointment as instructed, only be told its too early and I can't book till 7 weeks! Guess I'm getting a bit ahead of myself?! The GP receptionist said I need pack from them but they can't find any to give me -love my Doctors!

dutchyoriginal Fri 26-Apr-13 21:51:46

Mildred, ooh thank you for that info! Called the midwife this week and have a first interview/intake in two weeks (at 8 weeks). My dating scan is planned for two weeks later, at 10 weeks.

She also calculated an EDD of 17th Dec. My mum's bday is the 14th, so a present for her. :-)

Does anybody else have heartburn (just skimmed posts)? With DS I had it in the second half, but over the last 2-3 days, it's already started. I also feel bloated, just like most of you.

PistachioTruffle Fri 26-Apr-13 21:58:12

Thankyou everyone, and hooray for harry78's beanie too!

Taking, a scan every week sounds brilliant! Slightly envy though! grin

Feather and 2labs, I'm sorry you're still having to go through this sad I'm keeping my fingers crossed things settle down soon.

Welcome penguinita and sadpander !

DaisySwann Fri 26-Apr-13 22:40:35

Hi - brilliant news on all the happy scans! I've got mine booked for Tuesday, feeling excited/nervous. Sickness has totally kicked in this week and hormones have gone crazy. Cried at Masterchef this evening!!! Hope everyone's had a good evening xx

Frenelder Fri 26-Apr-13 22:46:30

Don't think my 1st post saved & can't see it sorry if I'm on twice though.

Hi All,
I'm PG with #1 & EDD is 8th Dec we have our 1st scan on 3rd May & very excited especially DH so he can feel a bit more involved & connected to DC.
Very happy to be PG but a little shocked its no where net the romantic idea of it in my head - flourishing? I think not.
I'm feeling really ill, tired & nausious about 80% of the day. All I want to do is sleep & can't manage my full hours at work hoping things get easier after 12 weeks.

Penguinita Fri 26-Apr-13 23:03:00

Thanks for the welcome!

Sadpander my doctor was pretty rubbish too, just checked my blood pressure and gave me a post it note with a scribbled phone number for the midwife. The midwife's receptionist was very vague as well, she didn't even take my due date and said my appointment would be "a good half hour". So I have my first midwife appointment next week, but no idea if it is a proper booking appointment (hope so!) or just a pre-booking.

So I'm sitting here on a Friday night and missing my usual glass of red. Does anyone have any good recommendations for non-alcoholic replacements?

musiceverywhere Sat 27-Apr-13 00:02:12

Hi everyone, been a busy few days so no posting but have been keeping up to date with you all. Hi to new ladies! [waves] Congrats to all the positive scans and heartbeats. Feather, I really feel for you. The anxiety is so hard, did you look at the 'mindfulness' stuff that someone mentioned on last thread?
I'm also a healthcare professional in v busy hospital aren't they all?
My spotting continued, so have spoken to our EPAU and am having HCG levels checked and quick scan tomorrow morning. eek!
I just hate this 'limbo' feeling. I have such a lack of symptoms, having trouble really believing I'm pregnant at all. I know I'm really lucky for them to do this, but I was going to end up going to GP anyway and at least this way I don't have to take any time off work.
I've already arranged my first midwife appointment for a day that I'm off work so I'm doing my best not to be too inconvenient. I agree that they can be some of the least understanding employers when it comes to sickness!
Anyway bed time! Hope everyone has a peaceful night.

harry78 Sat 27-Apr-13 07:50:49

Hi all,just wanted to check in. Feeling v grumpy at the moment and more than a bit sorry for myself. I need to snap out of it! Any hints?

SorryMyLollipop Sat 27-Apr-13 08:37:14

Harry, I am also quite grumpy, it's like constant PMT combined with tiredness and nausea. Not surprising really!

I had a scan on thurs, 8 weeks and saw the heartbeat, I got very emotional! After 10yrs TTC this is finally starting to feel real smile

inkymomma Sat 27-Apr-13 08:40:53

I've got terrible tummy ache today. Feels like period pains. Is this normal? I keep running to the toilet to check for bleeding.
Didn't have this with my first pregnancy

musiceverywhere Sat 27-Apr-13 09:54:09

Sitting in EPAU waiting room, waiting to speak to Drs. Well there's a baby in there! With a heartbeat (at 6+2) so that's good. But they've spotted a cyst.. Won't know anymore until speak to Dr. Stressed hmm anyone had experience of this?

kyz1981 Sat 27-Apr-13 10:25:30

musiceverywhere- I had a cyst on my ovary in my first Pg - it was found during an early scan for light spotting and pain, they told me it was normal and should go by 20 weeks- It had- not sure of your type but it could just be one like mine which is very common in pg I am led to believe.

FluffyDucky Sat 27-Apr-13 10:58:02

Harry I know how you feel, just take each morning as they come.
I'm so bloody tired this morning, felt like hubby woke me up from sleeping, I don't feel like I gently woke up. Really don't feel like taking to anyone this morning, which off just great as I'm at work!
Feel very dizzy & pretty sick this morning, doing my best to get through it. Gonna be a long day!

musiceverywhere Sat 27-Apr-13 11:02:31

Seen dr, just called DH in tears. hmm
Apparently it's a dermoid cyst, which is more solid than the more common fluid filled ones. It's just outside my uterus and is quite a substantial size.
They need to remove it, as risk of contortion and then affecting uterus, but as pregnancy so early they won't do it yet as too risky. Need to wait until about 5 months gone then will need proper surgery as its too big for laparoscopic procedure.
Totally in shock, never had surgery before. Said I'll now be under a consultant for rest of pregnancy.
Just want to talk to my mum now! Am supposed to be working all weekend, going to see if a colleague will cover as my brain is a mess.
There goes a straightforward pregnancy!

Ganetgob Sat 27-Apr-13 11:16:57

I'm sorry you've had rubbish news music. However, they know what the problems and risks are and you are going to be well looked after! Your baby is fine too, so that's great news.

Good idea to have your shift covered. Go and see hubby and mum. Have a cry if you need it and try and relax as much as you can.

Hope everyone is ok. I'm pottering along. I'm grumpy and emotional. Had a huge argument with dh yesterday because he dared to give me an extra sausage! That bastard! (Crazy lady!)

Have a lovely weekend all! grin

PistachioTruffle Sat 27-Apr-13 11:42:51

music' I'm sorry you've had such worrying news, I agree with Ganet though, it sounds as if you will be well looked after and carefully monitored during your pregnancy. Fingers crossed you can get your shifts covered, look after yourself and try to take it easy this weekend.

weechops Sat 27-Apr-13 12:57:35

Inky I'm still getting period type pains occasionally and I'm 7+2 today. Its just everything stretching, try not to worry.

Music sorry you've had worrying news but you'll have the best of care, and definitely talk to your mum.

FoxyRoxy Sat 27-Apr-13 14:11:24

Cooee! Sorry I've been AWOL again both ds's have been poorly! Will catch up and have a quick read through now smile hope everyone is doing ok and welcome to any newbies!

FoxyRoxy Sat 27-Apr-13 14:13:27

music so sorry to hear you've got to have surgery sad must be a really worrying time for you. Sending you (very un-mnetty) hugs.

AbiElizabeth Sat 27-Apr-13 14:58:11

Hi just thought I would say hello smile

My EDD with baby #1 is 20th December. EEK christmas baby!

NomDeClavier Sat 27-Apr-13 15:35:38

Hello to the newbies, especially those on baby #1!

Music I'm so sorry you need surgery sad Do take care of yourself and bean. It's a lot to come to terms with but do ask the HCPs any question that comes to mind. They are there to reassure you as we'll.

Ganet sorry but that made me laugh!!! Trying to feed a pregnant woman? Leave the bastard wink

lisbapalea Sat 27-Apr-13 17:24:22

music sorry to hear your news but am sure the consultants will be keeping a close eye on you and the baby,so you're in the right hands from the earliest time which is a positive.

I saw my best friend today who lives miles away so we hardly ever get to meet. Was just about to tell her the news when she beat me to it saying she's 9wks with her dc3!! So excited that we've managed,to synchronize our pregnancies! Somehow makes it all feel so much more real.

I am still unbelievably tired - was desperate for a nap by 9am today but no such luck! Also cheered by hearing about other people's irrational,unreasonableness (is that a word?!) towards their partners - was worrying it was just me!

harry78 Sat 27-Apr-13 17:34:08

Hi music the surgery news sucks but as others have said at least its on their radar now and you will get VIP treatment. Thinking of you...

Im feeling less grumpy now. My partner is pleased. Apparently its our 13 year anniversary today (I forgot!) [BLUSH]

kyz1981 Sat 27-Apr-13 17:49:51

Muisc- so sorry you have to have surgery - I am glad they will be looking after you closely. Hope you have managed to find someone to cover your shifts x

pyromanicat Sat 27-Apr-13 19:44:51


New here, EDD with baby #1 is 3rd Dec. Feeling excited and a little freaked out! (Oh and sick!)

Got my booking appointment on 12th of May and 1st scan on 24th. Can't wait for it to feel a bit more real and to tell people... don't like keeping secrets.

Looking forward to getting to know you all. Congrats everyone! smile

Onesliceortwo Sat 27-Apr-13 19:53:27

Hi there,
Introduced myself a while ago and have 'lurked' for the past week or so! Can't believe we're onto the second thread already. Is anyone else getting horrendous headaches? - don't remember this from last time - wondering if it's normal?!

Onesliceortwo Sat 27-Apr-13 19:56:08

Oohh - just added myself to the list!

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
violetbean EDD 5th December. Baby #1
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
Onesliceortwo EDD 25th December Baby #2
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
astonvanilla EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

Penguinita Sun 28-Apr-13 08:04:35

Added myself to the list too. What a lot of us there are!

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
violetbean EDD 5th December. Baby #1
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
Penguinita EDD 7th December. Baby #1
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
Onesliceortwo EDD 25th December Baby #2
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
astonvanilla EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

Penguinita Sun 28-Apr-13 08:14:33

Sorry to hear about the surgery music, it must be quite scary. But focus on the positives - you have a cute bean with a beat, and they have identified what the issue was and they can fix it. Plus you should get lots of extra care and attention from the professionals.

We're going to tell the in-laws today. DH wasn't keen to do it so early, as he thinks they will totally overreact and start knitting booties and buying teddies immediately. But I had to tell my future new boss on Friday, as I got a promotion that starts on 1st June and he wanted me to go on a business trip to Switzerland in November (err... don't think so). So now poor DH is having a guilt trip as a virtual stranger knows our news before his parents!

I keep worrying they might change their mind about my promotion now they know I'm pregnant, but I'm pretty sure they can't do that?

FoxyRoxy Sun 28-Apr-13 09:13:22

I had to tell my parents at 5 weeks as I went to visit them in the uk with ds2 (was booked before I got pg) and there's no way I would have escaped not drinking for a week without them guessing. We also then told the inlaws. Last time we didn't say anything to even family until about 9 weeks and didn't do a FB announcement until 18 weeks! I know as they're so close together people are going to comment on it, maybe I won't say anything until he or she is born!

FoxyRoxy Sun 28-Apr-13 09:14:21

penguin no they can't do that.

musiceverywhere Sun 28-Apr-13 10:25:39

Hi all, thanks so much for the positive words, really helps.
Lovely collegue that knew situation saw my face when i turned up at work, and once I'd explained, she just told me to go straight home and she would sort it all out. smile Really nice of her.
Am in bed at parents house, really wanted to tell them in person so we drove over last night. I knew how much my mum would worry but I needed to tell her. She's been great, her main concern is that the Drs actually want to remove cyst sooner but are waiting (and risking my health) because of pregnancy. Think she's worried it's malignant.
I told her I didn't get that impression at all and my close friend (a doctor) told me that if i even if i wasn't pregnant I would have just been 'listed' for surgery which would have been about two months wait anyway.

I'm so happy bean is ok, and really thankful that I had the scan and this was seen. Who knows how long this thing has been there. If it suddenly twisted at 6 months and I was rushed to A&E, they could have spent ages trying to find problem, then rushed to theatre completely unprepared for going through surgery and worrying about baby. At least this way, I have all information and can get my head around it and am under the care of best people.
As surgery will be at the hospital where I work, I jokily asked nurse if they can nab me a side room ;) (but of course not at expense of someone that really needs one!) Also was seen (but not examined thank god) by one of the junior docs that I already know. Mortifying, talking about discharge and pads! Suppose there's worse yet to come!
Sorry for long post, just wanted to update. Thanks for hugs, sorry for lack of individual replies, hope you're all well. x

FluffyDucky Sun 28-Apr-13 10:33:07

Music, glad to hear you are sounding positive smile

Oh I felt like I slept so well last night and I actually have some energy this morning, which is good as I have huge mountain of housework to catch up on! Feel like I can actually get some done!

How is everyone's skin doing? I have definitely noticed mine has become drier and more oily lol!

zebedeeandthefunbags Sun 28-Apr-13 10:43:04

Hiya everyone my EDD is 25th Dec and this is my first pregnancy and post here. I'm having an early scan tomorrow as I have PCOS and have had cramping and discomfort but no bleeding. We were totally shocked to get a BFP as I had been told I wouldnt be able to get preg without help and this was our second month of trying. We both can't believe it is true and I keep frightening myself that it is ectopic or chemical preg. Hopefully fears will be allayed tomorrow.

NomDeClavier Sun 28-Apr-13 10:56:48

Music, it's not great when you have to see people you know professionally! I keep worrying that I'm going to have to see (or even worse be delivered by) one of the MWs I've taught in the past. Definitely specifying no students unless I've pre-approved them.... Glad you got your shifts sorted out though. Lovely colleague smile

I slept allll morning. DS was a monkey from 5am so DH got up at 8 and then they tried to wake me half an hour ago but I was in one of those half awake but sleep paralysed states.

Penguinita they can't discriminate because of your pregnancy. If they given you the promotion it's yours. Are you in a union or professional association who can back you up if needed? If not I'd consider joining one on Monday. That goes for anyone else who's concerned about how their boss will react. I'm not the unions' biggest fan but when it comes to discrimination it's well worth having someone in your corner.

LadyMedea Sun 28-Apr-13 14:45:13

Ooh just completed my first maternity sewing project. Converting jeans to maternity jeans. Not for me yet but for my friend who is a couple of months ahead. It was really easy and I would encourage anyone with a sewing machine to have a go.

Also finished a cute baby blanket for a friend who has had a little boy. Managed to sew the furry side of the fleece on the inside (doh !) but it is still cosy and covered in giraffes.

katemeister Sun 28-Apr-13 16:53:25

Just added myself to the list, suffering with a fair bit of nausea at the moment.

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
violetbean EDD 5th December. Baby #1
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
katemeister EDD 7th December. Baby#1
Penguinita EDD 7th December. Baby #1
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
Onesliceortwo EDD 25th December Baby #2
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
astonvanilla EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

Hi there can i join smile

I'm due 26/12/13
Hope this bean is a sticky one

raven6666 Sun 28-Apr-13 18:10:13


Expecting my first on December 19th.

I am feeling rather insecure, anxious and grumpy. Does it not seem suddenly as though the world is full of mortal danger? And that bad things are incessantly happening to children? If this has always been the case I guess I was an insensitive idiot and didn't notice it before.

For some reason the whole not telling people thing is really getting me down. I guess I just don't like the social complexity. It reminds me of my wedding when I was forced to order all my friends and family in terms of importance. I didn't even want any table numbers but then the venue just put them on anyway so how do you think it felt to the people on the last table? Then they called them up to the buffet in table order just to emphasize the point. The whole point of of having a buffet was so it would be casual and friendly. Anyway so now I keep wondering if so and so will be offended to only find out I am pregnant after the first scan rather than being one of the special chosen few confidantes. But then thinking about telling people makes me think about miscarriages which makes me upset.

I am such an emotional wreck, not to mention nauseated and exhausted, that I feel singularly incompetent to take responsibility for a child. It's all I can do to make it through the day. My dissatisfaction with myself is equalled only by my dissatisfaction with the entire rest of the world, which it seems to me is dangerous, hostile, irritating and generally lacking.

Anyone else having a grumpiness issue? Any advice for snapping out of it? I'm sure all this doom and gloom can't be good for the little bean.

katemeister Sun 28-Apr-13 19:32:10

I am also finding the not telling people getting me down as well raven6666 - I want to tell people because I am excited and also because I am feeling really rough a lot of the time at the moment, but then am scared that at any moment I will become unpregnant! Hoping after my scan on 8th May I am going to turn a bit of a corner. Not sure I have much advice right now just sympathy. I have ended up telling my best friend and a couple of people at work who I needed help from when sick. Feels weird to have told them and not close family but I really wanted to wait until the scan - its almost easier telling people you don't know so well at first!

NomDeClavier Sun 28-Apr-13 19:51:52

It sounds like you're having a really tough time, raven. Pregnancy can do very strange things to your hormones and brain chemistry. I had a panic attack earlier because I convinced myself I'd have to choose between DS and this baby because I wouldn't be allowed to keep both. Totally irrational. There are loads of people with more than one child who've obviously been 'allowed' to keep them.

I'm not telling anyone just yet. DMiL keeps dropping hints so I know she's be thrilled if we told, I'm seeing my DM next month so she may find out, DH wants to tell the nanny so we can explain my slightly irrational behaviour but like you I just can't choose!

Do take time to talk about how you're feeling with your DH/P. It's a lot to handle.

weechops Sun 28-Apr-13 20:25:51

Katemeister I understand what you mean about telling people who are not so close. My inlaws don't know yet. (Long story regarding my mc and a toxic sil!) We are telling next week as I think they're suspicious. But I found it easy telling a couple of the mums at school, mainly as I know they'll help me out if I need it when dh is working away. And some of my oldest friends know. Can't wait til everyone knows I'm awful at keeping quiet smile

inkymomma Sun 28-Apr-13 20:33:56

I've told the people I work with due to the fact I work in a rest home so I'm now not allowed to lift anyone or pretty much do anything. Close family know and my two best friends know. I can't wait to do the official announcement on facebook. Got my booking in appointment on the 17th May so scan should be around the beginning of june

QueenofWhispers Sun 28-Apr-13 23:24:41

I've told the people I see everyday and for significant chunks of time. The homeless guy infront of starbucks. My best friend pregnant neighbor, my gym buddies, my sisters and my sons' tutors (of which he has 4 and each spend around 12 hours with him a week).

Mil,Mother,SIL and Fil and Dad all found out at the same time with a surprise scan email saying "hi, i'll be joining you for xmas".

QueenofWhispers Sun 28-Apr-13 23:25:20

the rest of the world will find out when baby is born most likely.

LadyMedea Mon 29-Apr-13 12:58:50

I'm enjoying the telling strangers i.e. woman who was buying the same pretzels as me in the supermarket, saying they were great for morning sickness.

I'm terrible at keeping my own secrets so I've told a few people as I've seen them. Nine weeks tomorrow so I'm more hopeful that this bean is sticking around. Nothing certain until the scan though.... eeek!

b0nker5Mum Mon 29-Apr-13 13:24:38

I'm actually enjoying keeping it a secret as are my dp and dd... We are staying with my parents temporarily until our house completes and came home from a weekend visiting DPs family to find someone had been "snooping" in our room! I can only assume my mum has been going thru my personal things to find out what's been going on... She is incredibly nosey! Nearly opened my letters from the midwife etc... We were even tempted to leave the bfp in my daughters room because we know she can't help herself!

It's quite frustrating!!!

FluffyDucky Mon 29-Apr-13 14:18:27

Bonkers, that is truly bonkers! How do you stay calm?
I'm also partly enjoying the secret. I know people mean well but it will be the only topic of conversion for the next 7 months when they find out. When we got married last year, I got bored of talking about how I was feeling & the wedding! But saying that, it wil be nice to share things too.

astonvanilla Mon 29-Apr-13 14:25:45

We are having work done on our house at the moment and the smell of paint and plaster is making me nauseous. Can't wait for it to be all over and to get to 12 weeks for reassurance. Hope everyone is ok.

b0nker5Mum Mon 29-Apr-13 15:37:36

It's tough fluffy! I have no idea how I have stayed sane! Just looking forward to each milestone with the house.... Once we have completed we have loads to do so wont even be able to move straight in!!!

We try make sure we are busy at the weekend so as not to spend too much time there but that opens up our room to searches!!!

I feel sorry for my poor dad.... He is the only one not looking forward to us going!!! He loves having us there if not for company also as it gets mum off his case!!! smile

I've told quite a few of my close friends and family, more than I intended to tell. Everyone else wont be told until after the 20 week scan though.

Does time seem to be going fast or slow for people? It's going reasonably fast for me I think. Hopefully it'll stay that way!

5ammy Mon 29-Apr-13 15:45:38

Hi all,

I'm Sam, been a bit of a lurker. I'm expecting #3 mid Dec (ish) - but it'll be my DH's first.
Is anyone else gaining weight at an alarming rate? I don't weigh myself as I have had 'issues' in the past. But, seriously my jeans are so tight! My tummy is huge! I've been really nauseous so am certainly not pigging out, it's not normal to be so big at 7 weeks surely?

I'm far from skinny at the best of times (12/14), anyone else struggling with the bulge?

Nice to 'meet' you all. Hope everyone is enjoying their journey.


PistachioTruffle Mon 29-Apr-13 15:52:24

5ammy, welcome aboard! I've got terrible bulge, which I'm putting down to bloat. My jeans are getting really tight, I can't do up the top button! I'm torn between getting a couple of inexpensive interim pairs in a bigger size, or getting a pair of the under bump ones I can hopefully wear for a bit longer.

We've told my parents and DH parents, and one friend. Not telling other family or friends til after 12 weeks though. The time is dragging!

I had my booking appointment this morning, so I'm all official! I feel like I've hit a little milestone.

b0nker5Mum Mon 29-Apr-13 16:13:21

I have opted for the cheap ones in a larger size... Irronically I have a pair of size 8 jeans which (ahem... Just) fit me, I am not normally a size 8 more like a 10 but short! All of my other size 10s won't even closely do up...! I'm too scared to buy maternity clothes yet (even tho next had a sale and really cheap mat clothes!)!

Welcome and congrats 5ammy...smile

Welcome 5ammy!

I've not put on any weight yet but I comfort ate when I lost Poppy so I am already overweight anyway. When I was pregnant with her I lost weight and my weight evened out a lot so I looked thinner than usual even with a 20 week bump! Hoping for similar to happen this time, just with a different ending to the story!

5ammy Mon 29-Apr-13 18:43:41

Thanks for the reply!

I feel so much better! Maybe I will opt for some maternity ones - just to try and hide it. We've not told anyone yet really - I had to tell my therapist, but I tell her everything, also told my GP and had to tell management at work (I'm not allowed to do my normal job when pregnant, I also couldn't bear doing it with the nausea and fainting).

We're waiting to tell anyone else. I'm desperate to tell the kids (they're 7 and 9), but my eldests dads gf had a miscarriage at 5 mths earlier in the year and he's really funny about pregnancy at the moment, so we're trying to keep it quiet - at least until the scan.

Penguinita Mon 29-Apr-13 18:49:02

Hi and welcome to the newbies!

We told the in laws last night, they were very happy. MIL cried buckets at the thought of her first grandchild. I tried my best not to join in - I'm trying to remain emotionally detached and not let myself believe this is anything other than my body playing a cruel trick on me until the 12 week scan. It isn't easy though!

I asked DH if he thought my body looked any different. He said he thought one boob looked bigger than the other and my bum was getting larger! Cheers darling.

Weescottie Mon 29-Apr-13 18:59:10

Hi to all the new people. Congrats! flowers

Nausea has caught me up big time...and I'm away for work all week sad Serves me right for thinking I'd escaped it as had nothing at 6 or 7 weeks! Ugh. Don't know how you lady's who are actually being sick as well cope. Hats off to you!

FluffyDucky Mon 29-Apr-13 18:59:58

I got stuck in my top trying to take it off, boobs got in the way! Hubby is loving them, I wasn't loving them when I was cold today & felt like I had two mini torpedoes stuck on the end of them!

zebedeeandthefunbags Mon 29-Apr-13 19:17:31

Aoifen. EDD 29th November. Baby #2
Vocalista86 EDD 30th November. Baby #1
Vixjane EDD 30 November. Baby #1
clare8allthepies EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Kyz1981 EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Popscene21. EDD 1st December. Baby #1
DonnaMoss. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
Jamina. EDD 1st December. Baby #2
2Labradors. EDD 1st December. Baby #3
Aoifebelle. EDD 2nd December. Baby #1
MamaBlue4. EDD 3rd December. Baby #5
Gooseysgirls. EDD 3rd December. Baby #2
SorryMyLollipop. EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
LadyMedea EDD 3rd December. Baby #1
Dasie EDD 3rd/4th December. Baby #2
TakingTheStairs. EDD 4th December Baby #1
Discogeek. EDD 4th December. Baby #2
MildredH. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Oroonoko. EDD 4th December. Baby #1
Leonas EDD 4th December. Baby #?
Gosh2ndTimeRound EDD 4th/5th December. Baby #2
PistachioTruffle EDD 5th December. Baby #1
13loki EDD 5th December. Baby #3
TryDrawing EDD 5th December. Baby #2
violetbean EDD 5th December. Baby #1
QuietNinjaTardis EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Rosebelle EDD 6th December. Baby #3
Soopermum1 EDD 6th December. Baby #2
Featherbag EDD 7th December. Baby #2
katemeister EDD 7th December. Baby#1
Penguinita EDD 7th December. Baby #1
FoxyRoxy EDD 8th December. Baby #2
CJ1981 EDD 9th December. Baby #3
FluffyDucky EDD 10th December. Baby #1
B0nker5Mum EDD 10th December. Baby #2
Weescottie EDD 11th December. Baby #1
LadyGranulomaFortesque EDD 11th December. Baby #2
OrbisNonSufficit EDD 12th December. Baby #1
WeeChops EDD 13th December. Baby #3
Yogafan EDD 13th December. Baby #2
BabyIwantABump EDD 13th December. Baby #2
Readyornot2011 EDD 13th December Baby 2
Harry78 EDD 14th December. Baby #1
AirDuster EDD 14th December. Baby #1
StyleManual EDD 14th December. Baby #2
Ganetgob. EDD 15th December. Baby #1
DaisySwann. EDD 15th December baby #1
TheBeanpole. EDD 15th December Baby #1
CCake79. EDD 15th December Baby #2
Inkymomma. EDD 17th December. Baby #2
MadBannersAndCopPorn. EDD 18th December Baby#2
Ccsays. EDD 18th December. Baby #1
musiceverywhere EDD 18th Dec Baby #1
Thanksforthat EDD 19th December. Baby #2
Lisbapalea, EDD 21st December, Baby #2
Holly1977 EDD 21st December Baby 1?
Misspositivity. EDD 23rd December. Baby #2
Johnnycomelurky EDD 25th December Baby #2
NixiD EDD 25th Baby 1
Onesliceortwo EDD 25th December Baby #2
zebedeeandthefunbags EDD 25th Dec Baby 1
QueenofWhispers EDD 26th December. Baby #2
astonvanilla EDD 26th December. Baby #2
2beornot EDD 27th December Baby #2
Sorelip EDD 27th December Baby 2?
NomDeClavier EDD 28 Dec(?) baby #2
Katie2702 EDD? Baby #4
Somethingcool. EDD early Dec. Baby #?
Rylea EDD ? Baby #?
Iris1 EDD ? Baby #3
Olive2012 EDD? Baby #?
Dutchyoriginal EDD? baby #2

zebedeeandthefunbags Mon 29-Apr-13 19:20:02

Added myself to the list - hope I've got the idea. Had a scan today they arent sure on my dates now as baby was v wee 2mm but it was pulsating and all seems good so fingers crossed and rescan week Thurs. In even better news after a 10year belief that my right tube didnt work the technician told me it was that side I was pregnant from. The mind boggles but very happy...panic over for now, was getting really annoying feeling scared all the time. Can't believe what an emotional rollercoaster the last 2 weeks since finding out have been.

violetbean Mon 29-Apr-13 19:52:27

5ammy, I have bought some maternity trousers already as I'm so bulgy bloated at the mo. Slightly concerned about the wedding I'm going to be bridesmaid for in a few weeks' time - dress may end up being a lot tighter than it was at the fitting!

Welcome all the new people and sorry to hear the difficult news about your op, music, hope all goes well.

Holly1977 Mon 29-Apr-13 20:14:51

Hi guys. I've completely failed at not telling people. So far I've told 5 of my friends, his 2 best friends, all our parents, his aunty, uncle and cousin, my yoga teacher, my hairdresser (who immediately told everyone in the salon!), my osteopath, a random stranger at the gym, at least 3 random people in shops, and that's me holding back! I have to tell my business partner tomorrow and may tell one of my other colleagues as I need cover for my first midwife appointment next week. Which I'm quite excited about... If she says I definitely can't have a scan on the NHS til 12 weeks I'm going to pay for an earlier one, no way can I wait another 6 weeks to find out how our bambino is doing!

I am feeling very grumpy a lot of the time. That's putting it mildly to be honest. I keep trying to wean myself off the nicotine patches then I have another meltdown and decide it's the lesser of two evils. I'm weepy, grumpy, prone to massive bouts of irrational rage. It's kind of useful for tearing strips off my stupid mobile phone provider but not so great for our relationship. And it's hard to tell when I'm angry cos he's being an arsehole or because I'm crazy hormonal.

I'm finding the tiredness quite hard to adjust to also. The simplest of physical tasks absolutely bugger me and I have to lie down for ages afterwards. Which is frustrating, especially cos it's so early on. Both my best friends have said that's completely normal and it'll get better but it's hard to manage around people who don't know. I'm REALLY bloated, which may be partly due to constipation. I had to wear my old size 8 jeans today for an hour and have been in discomfort ever since. Wish I could just wear tracky bottoms for the next 7.5 months! I've ordered some high waisted jeans from next which are really comfy, they might be worth a try for you all. Sadly my old pair are worn round the crotch so really can't wear them!

The constipation continues if I forget to take Lactulose all the time. The flatulence just seems to be a permanent feature now.

Phew, moan over. I did have this amazing moment today where I thought "wow, i'm growing an actual whole person in there". Glad I've got somewhere to moan about all the annoying symptoms where people understand cos I am obviously delighted to finally be pregnant but it's good to have a moan!

2Labradors Mon 29-Apr-13 20:17:13

5ammy I'm also expecting #3 and my other DC are 9 & 7. I would love to tell them too but I had some bleeding last week, scan seemed fine but we're going to wait until after the 12 week scan.
I'm also feeling big already too. I'm a 12/14 (was actually in a few size 10 dresses at Xmas) but wow my tum feels big already. I'm 9 weeks now and actually had to give in and put some maternity trousers on for work today. I could still just about get my normal work trousers on but with my bloating getting worse throughout the day I just imagined how uncomfortable I would be by lunch. Oh wow the maternity trousers were comfortable. They're under bump ones and there's no way they're going to be fitting when I do have an actual bump but the elastic waist part was so comfy today.
Cannot believe I'm wearing maternity trousers at 9 weeks, it's insane. I was 12 weeks with DS so I suppose I was to expect it to be earlier. It is bloat though, not baby. I just look fat. Who cares though so long as this little prawn sticks.

5ammy Mon 29-Apr-13 21:19:05

That's it!

I have a huge break between lectures tomorrow so I'm going to go look for a pair of maternity jeans (as long as I can dissuade anyone from coming into town with me)! I've had to take off the size 12 Levi's and climb into a pair of track suit bottoms! So unsexy.

Has anyone else not seen, heard from a midwife?

I called my doc' to ask about some medication I'm on, she told me I had to go into the surgery and fill in a form to register with MW. I went to the surgery and they had no idea what them procedure was (I'm sure I'm not the first pregnant person ever!).

In the end they told me I had to see a nurse to have height, weight and BP checked before I could be referred - I offered a urine sample (thought that may be more apt), but no.

I asked the nurse what happens now and she said 'I dunno, I don't know why I had to see you, I'm sure the midwife can check all these things for you...'.
Guess if I haven't heard in a few weeks I'll chase it up. I keep thinking maybe I've made a mistake and I'm not pregnant after all.

Hope you are all well. I've just done another load of ironing - this behaviour is very unlike me! My husband is living the new 'stepford wife I've become'.

5ammy Mon 29-Apr-13 21:19:41

Have everything crossed for you that baby is OK. X

TheBreastmilksOnMe Mon 29-Apr-13 21:29:58

Hello! Could someone please add me to the list as I am unable to via my blackberry and have been unable to log into minute on my pc for a while now tis very frustrating but I'm in the process of resolving it with minute towers!

TheBreastmilksOnMe EDD 17th Dec DC#3

TheBreastmilksOnMe Mon 29-Apr-13 21:31:22

Autocorrect has corrected my abbrv for mumsnet to minute it appears!

SorryMyLollipop Mon 29-Apr-13 21:55:59

Hi again, had a scan last thurs, I was 8 weeks then and saw the heartbeat!! Got very emotional.

NomDeClavier Tue 30-Apr-13 03:37:04

Hi all

Just checking in from the hospital. I'm fine, I'm assuming bean is fine, but DS has pneumonia. Pregnancy tiredness not helped by extreme sleep deprivation.....

Hey all and welcome to all newbies . Just checking in - am on night 2 of 4 night shifts and feeling increasingly sick with each one :-( meh hope everyone's ok

Gooseysgirl Tue 30-Apr-13 05:48:17

Nom.. Hope your little one is on the mend soon!
I've not gained much weight yet, completely different to my last pregnancy when I almost didn't fit in to my bridesmaid dress for DSis wedding at 12 weeks. I had a vomiting bug 10 days ago (not MS as I suspected!!) and didn't eat for about 4 days after, it was awful.... I would not cope well with Hyperemisis and feel so sorry for all the ladies suffering with it. Anyway I'm over it now and definitely back on food again so I'm sure I'll be digging out the maternity jeans before too long...

MildredH Tue 30-Apr-13 06:04:10

Baby- I just did my first set of nights over the weekend.. The first one was horrendous but found with number two & three I felt only slightly less horrendous than I normally would at 4am sad. My cheese & pickle roll "lunch" repeated on me horribly though so had to beg a lovely nurse for gaviscon! I presume you're also working in hosp? Have you had any thoughts about how long you'll carry on doing nights for?

Nom- poor you. How is DS?

Hi everyone.
I'm sorry you have to have surgery music, at least you'll be getting the right sort of care.
Still struggling with sickness. Going to Docs this morning to get more anti sickness meds. Got booking in later as well so that'll be fun!

Mildred - I have to carry on doing nights all the way through as I am rotational and it's part of my contract . I don't normally mind nights I think it's just the morning sickness seems to be worse when I do night shifts so far!

Doesn't help that now most of my colleagues have guessed because I'm feeling so rough! I suppose that's what you get for being a midwife! It's harder to hide it - we can smell pregnant women a mile off im sure!

5ammy, I can't book in with the midwife until I'm 11 weeks apparently because she has no appointments. I would chase it up today because they can be really busy and you need to see the midwife to get the appointment for your first scan.

I'm quite frustrated because I had been promised to be given plenty of care with this pregnancy. I've not even had a counselling appointment yet and it has been 6 months. Nobody has seen me in person to talk me through everything, it's all been over the telephone.

Bananas apparently help morning sickness people :D they're all I can manage to eat for my breakfast.

Out of interest did anyone do the Clearblue trial of OPKs? I did and got pregnant doing it so I have to keep sending off urine samples for another 10 days, at which point I'll have peed in 60 urine pots by then!

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QueenofWhispers Tue 30-Apr-13 11:21:30

i love your mn name Thebreastmilksonme love it!!!

5ammy Tue 30-Apr-13 11:36:50

Burst into tears in MK as no where sells nice maternity clothes and I'm too fat for my Levi's :-(

Hormonal (fat) pregnant woman alert.

QueenofWhispers Tue 30-Apr-13 12:37:40

whats 'MK' ?

fear not, asos has a not to bad selection and so does topshop.

QueenofWhispers Tue 30-Apr-13 12:40:11


and theres gap and HM. If you live in London I'll go maternity shopping with you. I'm a 14 too.

5ammy Tue 30-Apr-13 13:12:37

MK is Milton Keynes - I'm sure I'm just getting fatter as each day goes by.

Vocalista86 Tue 30-Apr-13 15:09:14

Queen that's a pricey website!! Looks nice though!

readyornot2011 Tue 30-Apr-13 15:48:45

Hello all,

Music, sorry to hear about your surgery, must have been a terrible shock. I'm glad they are looking after you so well though and like you said, best to know now.

Well the PiL's visit has been much better than I feared. They have helped out loads with DD and given me lots of time to rest. I even had the house to myself for a whole afternoon, which NEVER happens.

MiL is one of her own though, took her to see a house we are seriously considering putting an offer on:
DH: the floors upstairs are really nicely done
MiL: hmmmm
Me: come on now DH you know your mother hates laminate (yes ok I was teasing)
MiL: I DO NOT hate laminate, As a matter of fact I have it in my shed!

Brilliant! Made me smile for days.

TheBreastmilksOnMe Tue 30-Apr-13 18:43:48

Michellephant thanks for adding me (smile)

QueenOfWhispers loving your moniker too (smile)

Anyone tried accupuncture for ms? I've heard it helps so might give it a go.

TheBreastmilksOnMe Tue 30-Apr-13 18:46:37

New Look have decent looking maternity clothes that are cheap and won't last longer than a season but who wants them to last any longer?

FluffyDucky Tue 30-Apr-13 18:56:44

Well I had my booking in appointment today. Pretty boring but got a bounty pack with various bits in it! I'm quite pleased I call to arrange the 12 week scan, means I can arrange it on my day off.
Trying not to think about money though, especially when mini moo comes along and I'm off on maternity leave. Hoping our P60's don't take too long to come through, can then start to see what help we can get!

Penguinita Tue 30-Apr-13 19:23:12

Fluffy and others that have had their booking appointments, what did you think of the bounty pack? I was pretty shocked by this article a couple of days ago that suggests the pack is just a folder full of adverts putting consumer pressure on vulnerable new mums-to-be.

I have my first MW appointment tomorrow, quite excited grin Although if they take blood I will definitely faint.

2beornot Tue 30-Apr-13 19:26:19

Hi ladies. Just poking my head in to day hi!!

Had anyone told anyone yet? I haven't yet but have been thinking about telling my mum on her birthday next week. I'll be 5 wks then.

It feels like I've been pregnant forever already! That's what you get for POAS at 7dpo!!

featherbag Tue 30-Apr-13 20:26:09

Hi all. Sorry I've been MIA the last few days, my head's been up my arse. Still waiting for scan on Thursday to hopefully confirm all ok, but - I woke up with a definite bump this morning, prominent and noticeable! I'm only 8+3! DS was 5lbs 3ozs when born at 32/40, so looks like I'm growing another elephant. Made things rather difficult for my dream job interview this afternoon, had to make a few wardrobe adjustments, wear an extra-floaty top and make sure the panel didn't get a side view! Going to try and catch up on thread now, but will probably fall asleep hope everyone's ok.

weechops Tue 30-Apr-13 20:40:43

Oh I have had the most horrible 2 days. Poor ds has gastroenteritis. He's only 21/2 and has been sick all yesterday, and pooey all today. Poor wee guy sad he's usually so full of beans so to see him listless on the couch is awful. Dh not home til Thursday night and I just feel so alone with everyghing. Can feel a big sobbing session coming on. Holding it in til dd falls asleep.

5ammy Tue 30-Apr-13 20:46:08

Sob away Weechops - I'm hoping crying constantly is just hormones, if not I'm going insane. Sending hugs.

yogafan Tue 30-Apr-13 21:20:34

Aw weechops, hope you both have a good night sleep and feel better in the morning. Is he eating/drinking anything? My 2 year old DD was sick a while back and I gave her stock to drink (crumbled a stock cube in hot water), plain rice, as many little sips of liquid as possible. It is heartbreaking seeing them so feeble.

Featherbag - good luck for the job! When do you find out? Sorry to hear doctor has made you worry about this preg, hopefully scan will put your mind at rest.

Music - really sorry to hear that this isn't a super easy laid back uncomplicated pregnancy. Bummer. But as others have said, you know what it is and how to fix it. It's a pain but it can be dealt with. Hope you are getting all the looking after you need from your mum and DP.

I've just got back from France - no wine or stinky cheese for me, gutted - and have been looong absent from the chat. It's nice to be back.

MildredH Tue 30-Apr-13 21:33:31

Hey Feather- how'd the interview go? When will you hear?

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 30-Apr-13 21:46:16

Weechops - hope your DS is better soon, i really hate it when mine is ill as feel so powerless to help him. He's had a few D&V episodes and GP keeps suggesting sodding Dioralyte - the one thing I couldn't bribe him to take!

Have booked an early scan for 18th May, now just counting the days to then...

If anyone hasn't already looked, Isabella Oliver is fab for maternity basics - the jersey tops and dresses are ££ but they wash well and last even post birth as the jersey justs pings back into shape. Hold their value pretty well on eBay too. I still wear the ruched t-shirts now and DS is 2.5

LadyMedea Wed 01-May-13 07:06:16

Ok the boobs are now just ridiculous. Already gone from 36f to 36g ( two cup sizes as there is ff). Now the twins are busting out of those bras. Reckon I'm another two cup sizes now up to an h. God knows what will happen when I'm breast feeding. I'm scared...

Anyone else with ever increasing boobies?

MildredH Wed 01-May-13 07:31:17

Slight increase Lady but to be honest, at a 34b you're grateful for any extra you get! What's more, it's slightly helping to balance my burgeoning gut! I imagine its much more of a pain in the arse for you.. My sympathy!

Penguinita Wed 01-May-13 07:46:26

That's quite a jump Lady! My bras are really hurting now, I can't wait to get them off when I come home from work. So I'm off to M and S to get some bigger, comfy, frumpy, non under wired scaffolding this weekend. I'll get measured up to assess the degree of expansion!

featherbag Wed 01-May-13 08:03:07

Think it went ok Mildred - with baby brain + tiredness + nerves I did actually forget what I was saying halfway through a sentence but think I covered ok! You can never tell with interviews though I find. Will find out next week, trying to put it out of my mind for now, which obviously isn't going to work!

MildredH Wed 01-May-13 09:12:27

Glad it went ok- hope maybe gave you distraction for a day!

Are you being re-scanned soon? Hope the enforced leave not driving you too bonkers and that you've seen a bit of sun!

TakingTheStairs Wed 01-May-13 10:27:07

weechops sorry your DS is so poorly, and with your DH being away too that has got to be really tough sad Poor you.

featherbag Wed 01-May-13 10:49:51

Re-scan tomorrow morning, can't wait, kinda feel like I'm stuck on 'pause' til I know everything's ok!

Holly1977 Wed 01-May-13 12:28:26

Just confirmed my first midwife appointment for next Friday which I'm insanely excited about now! I'll be nearly 8 weeks by then. I've decided to definitely pay for an early scan if the NHS won't give me one before 12 weeks, there's just NO WAY I can wait that long!

Re clothes, I'm really digging high waisted trousers and jeans at the moment. They seem to be working for me, I feel it's way too early for maternity clothes. I don't want to tempt fate and I don't want to have to buy more than one set, though I don't know if that's realistic or not. I found some great trousers which are massive now but will be great later on in a charity shop. Got a nice top too which will be great for later and one which will fit me for about another 2 weeks but was too nice to resist. All for about £10! So why not try charity shops ladies? You can get some great stuff for next to nothing and if they don't fit you for long, no problem!

Anyone else farting a lot?! Not sure if it's the lactulose that's causing it, being pregnant or my colitis but I am farting ALL the time now! DF is just going to have get used to it because there's no bloody way I'm getting up and leaving the room every time I fart for the next 7 or so months!

Finding it quite weird having to eat regularly, including breakfast. I've never bothered much with breakfast and have skipped meals in the past, just out of laziness really. But I've definitely noticed that I have to eat and drink regularly now.

Anyone having cravings yet? I haven't particularly apart from crisps but I think it was probably just the salt I wanted as I don't have much salt in my diet normally.

readyornot2011 Wed 01-May-13 12:58:25

Good luck with the job and the re-scan feather.

I'm craving salt too, but that's nothing unusual tbh.

DH and I had a conversation about anti-natal depression last night. He brought it up, sad

I'm hoping its just one of those vicious circle things. Super-tired so naturally a bit glum, feel sicky and rubbish all day so don't achieve much, then feel even more miserable about not doing anything. Anyway, I know I'm not myself. I know I wasn't like this last time, maybe because I was working (which was tough) but kept me occupied.

Doesn't make sense we have been through so many things over the years to get to here and I've been the strong and positive one and now we are finally 'living the dream' and I can barely motivate myself to get off the sofa.

Anyway we are off back to England for the weekend so we agreed to see how things were when we get home. DH is a star (mostlywink).

QueenofWhispers Wed 01-May-13 13:33:10

So I had a bit of a scare yesterday.

I went to the bathroom and quite a lot of bright red blood was seen by me.

I decided to stay calm (which just means I was in shock) and had lunch before I went to A&E. Went there--no one cared. The doctor told me it was either an MC or not. (well, I could have guesses as much). I really just wanted to be referred to the epu but wasn't....

Then I texted my mother, mil and the rest of our family who all happen to be doctors...and within minutes of speaking to A&E doctor I was taken upstairs for a reassurance scan.

Then later I met with my consultant and I think I'm going to be kind of happy with her--she does look exactly like my mother...only she seem's to be far more tactful and has a better attitude. (my mother--as much as I love her--is also quite evil).

Holly1977 Wed 01-May-13 14:17:07

Well done for handling it so calmly Queen, I take it the scan was ok then? I despair of the NHS these days, I really do. So glad I've got insurance if anything goes wrong.

Sorry to hear things are crap at the mo ready. Be kind to yourself. You're growing a whole new person inside you, don't beat yourself up because you're not doing as much as you "should" be, whatever that is. This is something I've only just got the hang of recently. I always used to set myself loads of tasks then give myself a hard time if I didn't get them all done. I'm really grateful I've kicked that habit now cos being pg is bloody knackering! Do what you can, bollocks to the rest :-)

readyornot2011 Wed 01-May-13 15:12:03

Thanks Holly, I do usually write myself a to do list over breakfast and usually I enjoy ticking (almost) everything off but the past few days even getting out of the house has been a struggle.

Anyway today DD and I went for a lovely mayday walk and picnic with some friends and now I'm 'being kind to myself' (watching box set) before picking in-laws up again. I'm hardly put upon workload wise! So mostly a good day.

Whispers, sorry you went through that, I take it the scan was fine?

NomDeClavier Wed 01-May-13 15:35:24

Ready if you do have AND, or suspect that you do, seek help sooner rather than later. Having suffered horribly last time (and PND as well) it's not worth burying your head in the sand over. Do you have a good mutuelle? One of the few things I love about the French system is how easy it is to access specialists as long as your mutuelle covers you and they take depression seriously.

Still at the hospital but DS is doing better, despite getting annoyed with all the tubes and wires. He was pleading with me to get out of bed at 6 this morning hmm I was much less keen.

I've definitely noticed and increase in morning bleurghness this pregnancy. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping it doesn't get too much worse!

Holly1977 Wed 01-May-13 16:00:49

Then make getting out of the house an achievement. I've got a big DIY project on at the mo and have had to had a major rethink about my capabilities. I took some boards and lino to the tip the other day, filled the car up so quite a lot. But I took my time with it, was careful etc. And was absolutely frigging knackered for the rest of the day when I got back. Normally I'd have done something like that in an hour then cracked on with some other stuff when I got in. Things aren't normal cos we're pregnant :-) I have ideas about what I'd like to get done but if I don't, that's fine too. God knows who people who already have kids cope with being pg!

Am being a right pig today, haven't stopped eating. Just eaten 2 chocolate bars back to back. Actually had to leave the office to go buy chocolate cos I couldn't stand the craving any more! Grapes just aren't the same. Am slightly worried at times about getting fat as exercising has all but disappeared too (my yoga teacher won't let me go to class for the 1st trimester and I never seem to find the time) but 99% of what I eat is healthy so hopefully it'll be ok...

I have done no work today, can't concentrate at all. My brain seems to be stuck on a "baby, baby, baby" loop!

5ammy Wed 01-May-13 16:05:13

My Doppler came today! I had I have ago. No baby heartbeat yet - although I'd have been shocked info had heard him so soon.

ccsays Wed 01-May-13 16:27:03

Got my first scan tomorrow at seven weeks (think I said before, they think I'm further along because they don't seem to believe that I could not have a twenty eight day cycle). Know I should be excited, but I just feel worried about everything being ok. blush

ccsays Wed 01-May-13 16:33:15

Also, I might have resorted to doing free online tarot readings about my pregnancy for reassurance because I am a crazy person.

MildredH Wed 01-May-13 16:39:11

Ooh 5ammy- I've thought about a Doppler.. Have you hired or bought? Do you mind me asking where from?

5ammy Wed 01-May-13 20:19:16

Mildred - I bought one off eBay - was less then £25 inc delivery.

LadyMedea Wed 01-May-13 20:26:12

Is it weird that I got my appointment letter for my 20 week scan but not one for my 12 week scan?

Seeing midwife for booking tomorrow so will find out what's what. Still think its odd though.

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 23:03:27

Just popping in from the conception boards to say congratulations to weechops smile

And to all of you too smile

twinklestar2 Wed 01-May-13 23:09:28

Wee I just realised I congratulated you already at the beginning if last month. Seems so long ago! Sorry for threadbutting!!

featherbag Thu 02-May-13 08:27:53

Well, back in EPU waiting room. Again. This is like Groundhog Day.

PistachioTruffle Thu 02-May-13 08:35:25

Thinking of you feather, hope it goes well x

weechops Thu 02-May-13 08:38:54

Hey winkle thank you again grin

Thanks everyine for asking after ds. He is on the mend at last smile

Feather thinking of you today x

Holly1977 Thu 02-May-13 09:16:04

Just noticed a tiny bit of blood when I went to the loo. Absolutely NOT going to panic. I work with doctors so am going to ask my colleague what she thinks when she gets here. If it carries on I might go up to the hospital after work this afternoon, should finish around 3pm today. Got some tummy twinges but nothing different to what I've already been having for the past few days.

featherbag Thu 02-May-13 09:29:40

Holly, I'd see about getting referred to the early pregnancy unit for a scan, even just for reassurance, but no point heading to the hospital without a referral as you'd likely just spend ages sitting waiting.

All ok here, 8+3 which puts my due date back to 9th December. Still have a haematoma behind the sac which may bleed more, but at least I know and can be slightly prepared!

Holly1977 Thu 02-May-13 09:35:25

Thanks feather, how do I get a referral then? Should I phone my midwife?

That's good news :-)

Hey weechops, I'm glad your ds is on the mend. Hope everyone is ok.
I'm still the same, booking in took ages. I forgot how many questions they ask. Midwife seems nice though which is good.
Dh is being very grumpy with me and lost his temper with ds and took away half his toys yesterday. Really getting me down. He's doing a lot as working (from home) and we have sold our house so he's dealing with all that but my god I wish he'd stop taking it out on me. I'm useless at the minute but there's a damn good reason for that and he's too used to me being able to do everything. Really fed up.

featherbag Thu 02-May-13 09:45:47

Holly give your MW a ring, she should be able to sort it for you. Ninja I know what you mean, my DH seems to either be super-helpful and attentive or super-grumpy and bad tempered. I doubt I'm the easiest person to live with at the moment but I do wish he'd pack it in!

Holly1977 Thu 02-May-13 10:10:53

Right, my GP has arranged for me to go to the hospital tomorrow morning for a fanny scan... Think it was touch and go whether they'd see me cos I'm only 7 weeks ish but sounds like she talked them round. No idea what I'm going to do about work yet but don't really care. Just been for a wee and no blood so I am going to be positive, I'm sure it'll fine. So what can you tell from a fanny scan?

5ammy Thu 02-May-13 10:34:29

'Fanny Scan'? Is that a technical term? I have all sorts of images in my head - last time someone scanned my fanny I ended up in this state! (Sorry).

I have fingers crossed it'll all be fine whatever it is Holly.

kyz1981 Thu 02-May-13 10:38:54

Holly -I have had quite a few in previous PG and at 6.5-7 weeks you stand a very good chance on seeing something- They may even try abdominal first - so make sure you drink a bit - I had both they started abdominal found the baby then went vaginal to hear the heart beat and get measurements.

Feather - so pleased you have had good scan.

Quiet - I am really really fed up of being sick- I really wanted to enjoy this pg as all going well it will be my last, but feel rough as hell and am fast running out of drinks that don't make me gag, that coupled with tiredness and a 2yr old and 3 yr old - has tipped my hormones in to the pregnant women from hell- my DH has just kept very busy and brings me home foods/drinks every day in the hope he can find something that I can keep down.

Managed to get some maternity stuff from H&M and then went and got some pretty tops and a cardigan in a bigger size from white stuff - That cheered me up- but was shocked at how little maternity things the high street had.

Going to have to chase up my Midwife she only works and Tues/Weds - not really bothered about my booking appointment atm but I want my 12 week scan booked in as need to have it done by 13 weeks 4 days and I will be 10 weeks on Sunday.

Really starting to show now thanks to weak muscles and bloating - keep getting really odd looks from the nursery- Just waiting to see who has the guts to mention anything!

Hope everyone has a good day x

Holly1977 Thu 02-May-13 11:25:03

yes, fanny scan is the technical term and that's what the gp said, honest! Thanks guys, hopefully this will turn out to be a blessing in that I'm having an early scan and bean is absolutely fine. So glad I've been meditating recently and doing self work on controlling anxious and panicky thoughts. I suspect tonight will be a long night though!... Feeling a bit achey and periody but that's not the first time that's happened so I'm staying positive.

FluffyDucky Thu 02-May-13 11:38:59

Having a crap day today at work. Nearly puked in front if a customer, & feel like blurgh. Nobody helped me with the delivery until the manager asked me how I was (staff dont know) but I know it won't be done. Feel like crying today & just giving up. Can today be over phrase?

ccsays Thu 02-May-13 12:55:01

Had my first scan, I'm much less further along than they thought (in your face, patronising midwife!) which puts me at 6 weeks and 1 day. It also changes my due date to Christmas Day! DP wants to call the baby Jesus 2 hmm

Sorry you're feeling so rubbish FluffyDucky. I had a day like that about a week ago, burst into tears at my work and got taken off shift, very embarrassing. Any chance they let you go home a bit earlier today?

toni1bump Thu 02-May-13 13:06:54

Hellloooo!!!! Thought id invite myself into the thread! ;).. Im Toni, due 2nd Dec with first baby smile x

13loki Thu 02-May-13 16:04:21

Arrrgh. Took a class to the sexual health clinic for a talk, sat in a coffee shop for half an hour then went for a quick walk. Ended up vomiting into my hands in the middle of town. Luckily before I picked up my class.

FluffyDucky Thu 02-May-13 16:04:30

Thanks cc, I felt a bit better after I'd eaten. Just in a but of a grump today. Sadly I help close up the shop so no going early for me! And it's so beautiful outside sad

Iris1 Thu 02-May-13 16:09:07

Hi sorry haven't posted on here for ages.
Had a stressful time recently with DS being poorly and a few trips to A&E.
Wondering if anyone can tell me how long it was after they saw gp/local midwife that they received scan date from hospital? I had a gp appointment 9 days ago and she did paper referral that day - really hoped I would have heard by now especially as gp agreed OK could now be anything between 9-14 weeks and need to see someone sad

featherbag Thu 02-May-13 16:13:36

Well I'm sitting chuckling at myself after crying at a bus driver. Decided to walk halfway home with DS in buggy, then go to the park and bus home from there. But first bus had a buggy and a wheelchair user on, fair enough. Second bus had 2 buggies on. Third bus pulled out as I got to the bus stop (I was having to run between 2 stops as there are 2 buses I could catch, main road between the stops), and there was loads of room on that one and the driver definitely saw me! Fourth bus had school kids stood in the buggy bays, and the arsehole of a driver wouldn't ask them to go and sit in the many empty seats, but just shrugged at me and drive off. By the time this bus pulled up I was in tears and cried at the driver when I saw there was room for me and DS!

violetbean Thu 02-May-13 17:52:18

Argh feather how frustrating! Sounds like you're amazingly strong, I would have been crying at the second one!

Iris, it took at least 2 weeks, if not 3, for my letter to come through. I've had to rearrange the scan as the first one was due to be on a day when I have 2 unchangeable work meetings which will take up the whole day and my DFIL is having a major operation that morning. The clinic were really nice though and it's now booked for a much calmer day!

Anyone taking DHA/fish oil capsules? Do you find they make you feel more nauseous? Any advice?

FluffyDucky Thu 02-May-13 20:21:10

I like eggs normally but there is something very satisfying about munching on a hard boiled egg, filling too. Think I might boil a few & stick then un a tub in the fridge for a quick snack grin

yogafan Thu 02-May-13 20:55:30

I like pickled eggs...

AuroraOrtiz Fri 03-May-13 07:19:25

Hi there, please could I join? My dd is 21st December ( it's my first). Am bit nervous as mc'd last summer - the doctors advised me to get a scan when I'm 7 weeks so will go to the Epu next week. Bit scared, but am trying to think positively!

froubylou Fri 03-May-13 07:24:17

Morning ladies. Newbie here!

Have been luring for a few days and decided to join, mainly to have something to do at 3am when I am wide awake. This is my second pregnancy and I think I am due on 24/12 so a christmas baby! My eldest daughter is 8 so been a while since I was up the duff.

I am thrilled and terrified in equal measures lol. Its taken us 3 years to get pregnant and we had more or less given up. Now I am I have found Google my friend and my foe. Last time I didn't have t'internet access and just had the usual books from the docs. Now I know allsorts of terrifying things that can happen. Wish I had never read anything.

Due to see midwife on 14/05/13. Not sure if I am a bit further on that 7+3. I am huge. My boobs are huge. My lower tummy feels like cement whilst my upper tummy sticks out a mile. And I wasn't a skinny minnie (size 14) before I got pregnant so its not as if I had a washboard tummy (except in my dreams) before I got pregnant!

I also have a craving for anchoivies, prawn cocktail crisps, huge plates of pasta with tomato sauce and anchovies and chips and gravy. No wonder my tummy is sticking out! Its not bubba its blubber.

I was so hungry at 3.30am I got up and had a mini roll.

Anyways have a good day all. Off to M & S for some new bra's this morning, Matalan for some more stretchy jeggings in a size 16 and Morrisons for the Big Shop. Which is getting bigger every week!

LadyMedea Fri 03-May-13 07:34:22

Hey violet I take DHA as I'm vegetarian and don't get much otherwise. Make sure you take them with food but I'd be surprised if that was making you sick unless you take them by the handful.

I've got annual leave today as my parents are visiting. I have a cue of cats trying to sit next to me in bed!

yogafan Fri 03-May-13 08:01:32

Welcome newbies!

Violet, I take fish oil and it definitely makes me feel sick. I always take with food, and try to be relatively still while it goes down and settles (jiggling on a bus makes me vom). I find lots of liquid seems to make the sicky feeling worse so I don't drink loads until it's settled. Hope that helps...

harry78 Fri 03-May-13 08:47:41

Morning ladies! Can I ask you a question about weight? How much have you put on so far?

weechops Fri 03-May-13 09:24:26

I haven't put any on yet harry which I'm really quite surprised about. I lost a stone before getting pg (which I needed!) So I've still been weighing every week, but no change. And I've been eating loads! It'll all change soon though smile

toni1bump Fri 03-May-13 09:28:04

About 8lbs.. 9+4wks xx

Holly1977 Fri 03-May-13 09:29:16

Bean all present and correct including heartbeat. So happy I burst into tears! Didn't even need a fanny scan, clever doctor managed to see it through my tummy. Only 6 weeks approx so they said they can't date it accurately yet. Thank fuck for that! :-)

TakingTheStairs Fri 03-May-13 09:57:38

Hoorah Holly that's fantastic! I've another scan today, looking forward to when they're external scans!

Does anyone know is the 12 week scan an external scan?

Harry I've put on 7lbs. I'm 9+2

harry78 Fri 03-May-13 10:14:32

Yay holly!

harry78 Fri 03-May-13 10:16:02

I'm 7+4 and I've put on 5lbs. I've recently lost 2stone and can feel it creeping back on. It's not just baby though because I can't stop eating! Any tips on curbing the munchies?

Holly1977 Fri 03-May-13 10:34:03

Thanks guys :-) not sure about external scans, I would have thought 12 weeks would definitely be external. I might be wrong but think your weight can affect how easy it is to see. Don't quote me on this but think I read somewhere that being overweight makes it harder to see.

re munchies, get yourself really worked up about a tiny bit of blood, definitely curbed my appetite today! Seriously though, how about stocking up on munchy fruit like grapes and strawberries and other healthy crap and get rid of chocolate etc so you can eat away and not turn into a whale?!

weechops Fri 03-May-13 10:55:43

Taking - 12 weeks is definitely external

Harry - banana chips work for me if I need something sweet to nibble, and I have pretzels for savoury. Not that I've been eating them, I prefer cheese n onion golden wonder crisps smile

I've noticed today that my boobs aren't sore at all any more, and I can't remember if thats normal? I'm 8+1 today.

Still haven't heard anything from midwives with booking in or scan date and getting a bit edgy now. Think ill chase it up if I've heard nothing by Wednesday as that'll be 4 weeks since I told gp and he said it may take 4 weeks.

Holly1977 Fri 03-May-13 11:35:04

I'd definitely chase that up Wee. Obviously all services are different but I got my appointment letter within 9 days of first seeing the GP. Stuff often gets mislaid in the weird and wonderful NHS...

Just told a colleague and had the most wonderful reaction. She's so excited and gave me about 5 massive hugs! It's so lovely to get that kind of reaction after my business partner's reaction (we've worked together for 10 years) who was distinctly meh about it all. In fairness she apologised about it yesterday which was lovely. She said it was because she'd had a bad experience in the past with a colleague who had 6 months off full pay and nearly bankrupted the practice. I've shown my scan pic to 3 people already! Really need to calm down, it's only 6 weeks, still got a looooong way to go.

Someone posted much earlier in the thread about statistics of the pregnancy continuing once you've seen a heartbeat, could that mysterious someone post that again please? Sorry, I'm sure if I read the whole thread twice I'll probably still miss it.

More healthy munchie ideas; rice crackers, dried fruit (high fibre), nuts. I buy my chocolate rations daily so I can't pig out too much.

So proud of myself for getting through last night and today without caving in and having a fag, particularly since I stopped using the nicotine patches on Wednesday. :-)

FluffyDucky Fri 03-May-13 12:01:09

Yaay just booked my 12 wk scan (although I booked it got when I'll be 13wks) much prefer being able book it myself than having the appointment come through

harry78 Fri 03-May-13 12:01:58

Hi wee I had my nurses appointment over a week ago who told me the midwife would be in touch. Still no word. I'm 7+4

TakingTheStairs Fri 03-May-13 15:33:25

Well done on staying off the fags Holly

I'm so excited, just had a scan (9+2) and the little jelly baby was waving his/her arms!! So wonderful to see, it made it a bit more real than see the heartbeat grin

b0nker5Mum Fri 03-May-13 17:34:24

Not been able to contribute this week with it being hectic at work and finally exchanged on the house today... Yey! Won't complete until end of may but at least it gives us something to look forward to in the coming months... And a massive project!

Still not really had many symptoms! If I get too hungry I lose my limited appetite... I have terrible wind when I eat (burping!) and still loads of cm... O and sore boobs and clothes too tight... Actually I guess that's quite a few!!!

Congratulations on the new bfps and seeing beans on scans...

Got my checking in appt on tues... And still not told a sole...

Iris1 Fri 03-May-13 19:21:01

Congrats to new BFP's And all of you getting your scans how lovely

Must say im pretty relieved to see im not the only one who hasnt heard a peep from the midwives. Its been nearly two weeks since I saw the gp and she said it wouldnt take long.
I had a miscarriage prior to this and judging by the clear blue digital I took over 4 weeks ago im about ten weeks now. Although the gp said the midwife should get me in for a scan soon as theres a chande I never miscarried and she mentioned disapearing twin syndrome. So stressed out wish my appointment would just come.

I havent told anyone either just my mum and shes piling on the pressure to tell my sister (who is getting married in 3 weeks and will b v suspicious when I dont drink).

oh and ive put on a crap load of weight despite being unable to eat hardly anything feeling like shocking crap and being sick alllll the time. Booo ive had two kids already and never felt this bad, oh and 12 week scans are always on he tummy.

Penguinita Fri 03-May-13 19:31:49

So my first MW appointment turned out to be a bit of a disappointing experience. It wasn't a booking appointment after all, just a pre-booking. The MW herself was lovely and gave me lots of info and my maternity notes, but my proper booking appointment won't be for another 3 weeks. I'll be 11+5 by then! And the worst bit is they won't even book me in for my first scan until I go to the booking appointment. So I'll be nearly 12 weeks before I even find out when my scan date is! It just seems like AGES and I got myself all worked up about it, thinking stuff that I know I shouldn't, like what if I'll be carrying around a silent bean for the next month without knowing it. Stupid, I know.

So I totally sympathise with those of you stressing out over lack of communication from midwives. Waiting for information is enough to drive you mad. It's so hard to know where the line lies between waiting a reasonable time before chasing them up and being a crazy obsessive pregnant lady harassing them!

Reading some of the positive stories on here about BFPs and beans keeps my spirits up though smile

violetbean Fri 03-May-13 19:44:09

Hi all, TMI / self-pity alert, sorry...!

I'm completely terrified. Yesterday had quite a bit of brown discharge. Today don't feel nauseous at all. Boobs don't hurt any more. I'm so scared the bean will have stopped growing or something. Yesterday DH tried to get me to tell him why I looked so glum, I blurted it all out and he was lovely and supportive but it felt like nothing he could say would make it better. Can't face idea of looking into early scans. Will just have to wait 20 more days until 12-week scan. Seems like an eternity.

Sigh. sad

mumoftwoboysS Fri 03-May-13 20:28:49

Hi there,

can I join please? EDD Dec (?) I'm 7 weeks (this will be DC3)

Violet- I had something similar a few days ago and the next day didn't feel sick at all and got really worried. But now the nausea has returned a bit. Try not to worry- it's a horrid waiting game. OH doesn't understand why I don't want to tell anyone yet....I just need some sort or reassurance. I can't remember from prev pregnancies if you listen to the heartbeat at 1st mw apt? If not it's going to feel like an eternity till the 12 wk scan....

NomDeClavier Fri 03-May-13 20:39:36

MW won't listen for heartbeat until 16weeks at least and many don't do so until 20 weeks.

Iris I had disappearing twin syndrome with DS. Had it not been for the thoroughness of the sobographer it probably wouldn't have been detected until much later. I would really push for a dating scan and if they won't do that then a series of quantitative HCG bloods to see what the rate of doubling is as that can be an indicator of length of pregnancy if you have a rough idea.

I'm guessing that all you people who have midwife appts before scan dates are given live in areas where they don't do the nuchal fold test? If not then they must get your scan dates out pretty quick!

I had my first bloods done yesterday (courtesy of the nice nurses on the paeds ward who saved me a trip to the lab) so know they know I'm upduffed wink Plus they came back with all the ward bloods so nice and quick! Another set tomorrow - I'm paranoid this is twins or my dates are out because my HCG is high.

harry78 Fri 03-May-13 22:20:59

Hello all. Today topic of angst is breast feeding. What are your thoughts on it? I want to breast feed but am having real concerns about the prospect of doing it from of other people; not just strangers in public places but my family too (not DP he will be cool) I know they won't be comfortable. Is it possible to breast feed in private moments and feed expressed milk from a bottle when out and about?

MildredH Fri 03-May-13 22:33:38

Hey Holly- 'twas me.. Have hung onto this for reassurance during wobbly times.. From Miscarriage Assoc website:

If the scan does pick up a heartbeat and the baby appears to be the right size according to your dates, this can be very reassuring, even if you are still bleeding.

Research has shown that if you see a heartbeat at 6 weeks of pregnancy, the chances of the pregnancy continuing are 78%.

A heartbeat at 8 weeks increases the chance of a continuing pregnancy to 98% and at 10 weeks that goes up to 99.4%.

So things could still go wrong and sadly sometimes do, but as long as there is a heartbeat, the risk of miscarriage decreases as the weeks go by.

Hope it helps..

Holly1977 Fri 03-May-13 22:54:10

I'm really surprised by how crap some people's mws are being. It seems like 12 weeks is the absolute latest you should be having your first scan so taking that long to see you for the first seems really rubbish. The only reason they wait until 12 weeks to scan you is for cost reasons, i.e. most mcs happen before 12 weeks so it's just a cost saving exercise. There's no clinical reason to wait that long. The fact that I had an external scan today that showed a heartbeat and I'm barely 6 weeks kind of proves that really. I probably shouldn't say this and this is absolutely NOT what I did but if you were desperate enough for a scan and can't afford to go private, you could always say you'd had a bleed. I know that's probably a bit immoral and I'm not saying you should, it just occurred to me after today's carry on. I'd encourage anyone who hasn't heard anything to chase it up. I don't think that's unreasonable at all. I deal with the NHS all the time through work and it's astonishing how much correspondence never arrives at its intended destination.

That's not stupid at all Penguin, it's totally understandable. And not nice at all, it's what I was worried about last night and this morning. I chased mine after a week (!), the letter came the same day. I don't see anything wrong with keeping on top of them.

Sorry to hear that Violet, get yourself booked into the EPAU for an early scan if it'll set your mind at rest. All I had to do was phone the GP and she did everything else.

Nom, can you explain what you mean about the nuchal test? I've heard of it and know it's to do with Down's but not sure what you mean.

Harry, I am going to breastfeed and anyone who's got an issue with it can leave the room as far as I'm concerned. Since my friends have had babies and told me about it, I'm gobsmacked by how few people breastfeed and how weird people are about it. I've already played out the scenario in my head where some idiot in a pub or restaurant complains and I point out they're breaking the law in discriminating against me, make a big scene and strike a blow for feminism and breast feeding! Obviously this is just a fantasy, but all being well I will breast feed.

Thanks Mildred :-)

musiceverywhere Fri 03-May-13 23:13:21

Hi all, hope you've all got nice peaceful bank hols planned.
Sorry for long post-
I do check thread everyday, will try and get better at posting. I've had to go back over all written since I last posted so I didn't miss anything!

ladymedea intrigued on sewing project, how did you do convert jeans?
Violetbean thanks for your comment, hope you're feeling a bit calmer, glad your DH was there for you. The wait is so hard, would you not consider a private scan if the wait is too long? Or contact EPAU if discharge continues. Thinking of you.
Holly1977 VERY impressed with smoking success. From your prev posts I also agree I'm a bit more 'windy' at the moment, but if you're on lactulose that's notorious for it. I am also craving salt/crisps/junk food even drank a glass of full fat coke the other day which I hardly ever do. Was laughing at 'fanny scan'! Pretty sure your GP meant 'intravaginal'. That's what I had, got a scan photo from it too- sure child will be delighted that its first photo was taken from that angle!
Nom,weechops , iris1 sorry you've been stressed with DC being poorly. Hope all better and you're getting some rest.
Quiet really hope your sickness settles down, yes I'm glad I'll be getting looked after closely
Michellephant hi! I'm sorry to hear about Poppy, hope you start to get somewhere with the extra support you were promised.
5ammy hope you've made some progress with maternity wear. I hate that 'tears in the changing room' situation. And I can't believe you have a doppler! Was it expensive?
readyornot lol at your MIL, they can be 'hilarious' sometimes. Glad you survived the visit.
Taking- scan sounds lovely, nice to be excited rather than nervous.
Yogafan thanks for kind words. I don't think any pregnancy is ever super easy or laid back, but having major surgery halfway through is definitely not something I was prepared for!
Feather glad interview was ok- when do you hear about job? I've carried on spotting, but they also saw a small haemorrhagic cyst on my scan so I'm guessing thats it. And was so sorry for you reading your 'bus' post. I know the feeling when you're just so cross/tired/fed up that all you can do is cry!
Queenofwhispers sorry you had scare, is everything calmer now?
froubylou- hi! I'll fight you for the last prawn cocktail crisp!
13loki ick at vomiting in hands. Hopefully that's the low point of your morning sickness.

Ok enough from me, will post update on my progress tomorrow. Am being distracted by Fox Mulder....

NomDeClavier Fri 03-May-13 23:30:23

I'm another one with strong opinions on BFing. Heck I'm still feeding a 2yo! But I'm also a trainee BFC with the LLL so not exactly objective wink Tbh I wouldn't go for feeding EBM when out and about. Expressing is a faff and boobs are much easier. Once you get the hang of it BFing is very discreet. I've lost count of the number of times people have just not noticed I've been feeding in public. If you are worried what about a nursing cover?

The nuchal fold test is a measurement that they take at a scan which must be done before the end of the 13th week. It measures how much fluid there is in the baby's neck. After that 14 weeks fluid at the base of the skull is no longer reliably visible. A lot of fluid indicates an increased risk of Downs' syndrome. Ideally the test should be done at 11 weeks (because then if the little bugger doesn't cooperate DS that would be you you can rebook) but most Trust policies don't take that into account.

info http://fetalanomaly.screening.nhs.uk/testsabout

violetbean Fri 03-May-13 23:30:34

Thank you so much for the lovely messages! Evening relaxing in front of TV and then having a bath has made me feel a lot calmer.

Impressed by your individual messages music! I'm on the app and can't remember the names of the people who've posted (or the content!) once I'm writing a post! blush So tend to be a bit vague in my messages to others...confused

NomDeClavier Fri 03-May-13 23:33:49

Oh and from experience family, if they're not supportive of BFing, are harder to BF in front of. My MIL makes passive aggressive comments about how she never had enough milk for her babies (subtext: don't you be denying my previous grandson anything). Even my mother who BF all 3 of us for what was a the time a really long time was a bit weird about me BFing in front of her. I found it easier just to retire when at home/other people's houses to feed. Friends are much easier to cope with!

LittleBells Sat 04-May-13 00:44:49

Hi, I've been lurking unti I felt brave enough to join! I'm around 9 weeks now, due Dec 4th, I think, not exactly certain on dates so waiting for scan in a few weeks to see!

Have felt so nauseous recently, consequently I've been eating everything and anything in an attempt to find something to make me better! I really have to try to reign things in a bit!

musiceverywhere Sat 04-May-13 00:51:24

violetbean I could pretend to have a great memory, but... really I'll admit that I'm on the laptop this evening (instead of phone which usually read thread on) so I could open a separate document to write post in while reading comments. Cut and paste and voila! grin he he.
May be a bit OTT but figure if we're going all the way to December I need to make some effort to keep up with everyone! Makes much more sense to do short posts more often, really will try harder. Glad you're feeling calmer now.

re: BF. It's on the list of baby details that I'm not letting myself really think about yet as still feel its too early on (7 weeks) but in general, am in favour, hope I'm able to do it and everyone with a problem has to get over it!

Penguinita Sat 04-May-13 07:47:17

Thanks Holly, that makes me feel better.

I think they are maybe delaying the scan so I can have the combined test for DS at the same time. But I'm a bit concerned that if I have to wait until 11+5 before they book my scan then if they are busy I might not get it within the recommended window.

Should I chase it up I wonder? Who should I call (midwife or hospital antenatal unit)?

About BF, I went to a party the other week and my friend managed to BF very discreetly in the lounge in the middle of the party. She just took a chair into a corner and wrapped a shawl around her. Hardly anyone even noticed and nobody seemed to be bothered by it. I was impressed - its a personal thing though, and you should just do what you are comfortable with IMO.

Is anyone else waking up really early? It's been between 5am and 6am for me all week. I'm shattered!

Featherbag Sat 04-May-13 08:14:57

Nice to see you back Music, so sorry you're having to go through all this worry but sounds like you're in good hands!

Re bf - after becoming obsessed with making it work to the point of ruining my first few weeks with DS (he was over 4 weeks when we brought him home, had been expressing milk which was tube-fed to him until shortly before that), I'm not worrying about it. DH is already worrying about how I'll cope if it doesn't go well again, but given that most of the problems, and the eventual failure, last time were down to me going against my instincts because they didn't match the professional advice, I'm going to have a totally different attitude this time!

If it doesn't work for me, dc2, or our family, I will ff rather than work myself up into raging PND. I will not feel guilty. I really want to bf, but I'm going to keep at the front of my mind that it really isn't the most important thing in the whole world, and isn't worth any price. However, if I can do it, I will bf where/whenever I need to!

LadyMedea Sat 04-May-13 08:29:11

Hi music. Tutorial fr converting jeans is here although I did them without the additional elastic and they are fine. Anyone with basic sewing skills should be able to do it.

Means you can get jeans you know will fit. You cold even redo them from narrow band to over bump as bump gets bigger.

PistachioTruffle Sat 04-May-13 08:34:49

I tried some under bump jeans on in topshop yesterday, they were so comfortable it's unreal! The effect was quite extraordinary though, I went from looking like I had just put on a bit of podge around the middle, to looking like I had a proper, fully formed baby bump! I realise the bump is entirely made of bloat as baby is still raspberry-sized, but it gave me quite a shock. I'm not sure I'm quite ready for that yet!

My boobs have stopped hurting though, which I find slightly worrying confused

harry78 Sat 04-May-13 08:35:41

Thanks for your thoughts on Bf. I just think in front of my family it will be a no go. Maybe I'll just reserve EBM for those times. Strangers will probably be easier in some ways!

The reason they do the first scan at around 12 weeks is because that is when it is most accurate for a dating scan . The nuchal scan can be done up until 13+5 and still be accurate .

The reason they do the first scan at around 12 weeks is because that is when it is most accurate for a dating scan . The nuchal scan can be done up until 13+5 and still be accurate .

Oops sorry for double posting

Soopermum1 Sat 04-May-13 09:43:18

Sympathies with all those with clothing issues, feel your pain. Am going shopping for some leggings one size up and hopefully really soft ands stretchy to combine with some of my baggier clothes to see me through to maternity wear.

Got first part of the Harmony test on Tuesday, will be 10+1 then. Will get results back and have nuchal scan done at same time 2 weeks later.

Recently got a permanent contract at work after freelancing there a while and boss has put me in a key role in a big 2 year project. I feel like such a cow re the timing sad people will probably think I cynically timed it like that, but I didn't, I'm an old bird and knew I couldn't hang around and try to time things so we started TTC when I had no idea what my job propsects were going to be. Hope boss believes me, he's a nice guy and has been very fair to me.

musiceverywhere Sat 04-May-13 10:28:15

Thanks ladymedea, looks tricky but maybe worth trying if will save lots of cash!
Pistachio! Nice to see you, trying maternity wear sounds strange, I've had a 'bump' for months, now suspect it was due to this 8cm cyst they've found (and a few doughnuts I'm sure!) but will be weird when I start to 'dress' for pregnancy...
Had first midwife appt yesterday, total anticlimax. She wasn't particularly 'warm', didn't feel like I could ask her anything personal. Her main concern was where I wanted to have baby. I explained story so far and that it'll prob make more sense to have baby where I work (as will have had surgery there etc) and she said she can't refer me there herself, the GP has to do it! So I have to waste an appointment (telephone) to ask the GP to refer me sad Receptionist was not v impressed when I said the MW wouldn't do it herself. So I got a few leaflets, but basically felt that as I wasn't going to one of 'her' hospitals, she wasn't interested. Ah well, mainly waiting for consultant appointment at moment, have so many questions!

Iris1 Sat 04-May-13 12:22:46

Hi everyone. Theres so many on here is hard to keep up.
After worrying about my referal my first appointment has just come through. It is very vague though just says antenatal general so dont think its a scan. Pretty annoyed as its nearly 3 weeks away and by then i may be anything between 12 and 16 weeks. So peed off just want a scan so I can know my dates sad!!!

Ive only ever bought few maternity items with previous pregnancies. I find it easier to live in jersey maxi skirts, leggings and longgg vest tops. Baggy jumpers in winter smile

FoxyRoxy Sat 04-May-13 13:35:56

I have got no bump or bloat yet, I compared a pic from the same time with my last baby and the difference is huge! If I hadn't seen the wee bean and heard the hb and if I wasn't feeling so sick constantly I would be worried!

2Labradors Sat 04-May-13 13:58:49

Hi lovely mummies.

I've not posted for a while. I'm 9 weeks 5 days today and had my 1st proper midwife appointment for booking in last Tuesday. In my area, you have a pre-booking appointment too which is a group session called early bird at around 6-8 weeks pregnant.

My actual booking in appointment was a joke. Another midwife came in half way and swapped with the midwife already doing paperwork. Neither of these midwives were my midwife. The scales I was weighed on weren't on 0 so my starting weight/BMI is slightly higher than reality. I pointed it out so the midwife's idea of checking was to get on the scales herself and say 'yeah, that's about my weight so they're probably right'. I had to explain about my bleeds twice (as I had 2 different midwives during the appointment). I asked advice on what I should do if I bleed again and should I contact my midwife. She said no and that my hospital would just arrange to see me. I've had another bleed since and after leaving a message on the hospital answer machine and waiting for a call back, I was advised that they will only see me once a midwife has referred me again!!
I had glucose in my urine and the midwife said it needs checking again next week but as I don't see my midwife until 16weeks now there's no way it could be checked.

Luckily, I work in a GP surgery and one of our practice midwives will check my urine for me next week. I also got advice regarding my bleed from the midwife at work. But, otherwise, what would I have done?

I asked the first midwife in my appointment about joining slimming world as it had been mentioned in the pre-booking appointment and I was very interested. She said there isn't a plan for slimming world. The second midwife said she'd just completed the slimming world form for another mum and to go for it!

On a cheerier note: I took my ultrasound form to the hospital myself and I have my 12week scan booked on 23rd may, I will be 12 week 3 days. I go for all my bloods on Tuesday. And I've joined slimming world grin

mumoftwoboysS Sat 04-May-13 14:26:17

Does anyone have any tips for morning sickness?? I had it pretty mild with my first two. Feel sick as a dog today sad and yesterday visited a friend who's suffered horrendous hyperemesis- I don't know how she coped! I'm being pathetic but I'm finding feeling sick makes it really hard to do anything and even harder to look after my DS's!

so far salt and vinegar crisps have helped a bit, orange squash... couldn't finish my cup of tea this morning or my chocolate biscuit! (so unlike me) I eat pretty healthily usually, but now thoughts of healthy stuff also make my stomach churn.

sorry for the moan...

I had my reassurance scan yesterday and everything was all looking good smile got another one in two weeks that they offered me without even needing to ask and then I'll have the dreaded harmony test at 10 weeks. Not sure how I'll feel if history repeats itself sad although everything was good yesterday I cried waiting to be scanned because they scanned me in the room that confirmed my first baby had a heart defect sad I got through it though but I was drained after visiting my baby's memorial tree afterwards so I've only just got onto the computer to update you all smile

Oh and my dates are two days out, I'm now due (temporarily no doubt) on 23rd December. I bet the dates will change again next time knowing my luck :p

Penguinita Sat 04-May-13 16:12:51

So I just put a batch of chocolate chip cookies in the oven and then realised that I can't lick the beaters or bowl because the mix has raw egg in it. Gaaaaa - torture!!! shock

Dasie Sat 04-May-13 16:40:12

Hi ladies,

I've booked to have a harmony test too due to my age (I'm 39) next Sunday when I should be 10+4. I'll have a dating scan before the blood tests so I'm looking forward to finally see the bean. Also got my 12 week scan on May 23rd and my consultant appt on the 24th so I finally feel like things are moving on

For the ladies who are having delays seeing their MW I think there seems to be a definite postcode lottery on the time scales. I had my gp appt on a Friday and the MW telephoned me the following Tuesday to arrange my appt, I was exactly 8 weeks when I had my booking in appt.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend smile

Penguinita Sat 04-May-13 16:43:33

By the way, sorry if my last post seemed a bit flippant after yours Michellephant, I didn't read the thread first. Sounds like yesterday was a real emotional roller coaster for you. Congrats on the good scan result.

Also sorry to all the people with MS for whom cookies are the last thing you want to think about... smile

mumoftwoboysS Sat 04-May-13 16:56:47

Dasie- I am 7 weeks and phoned to get a mw apt and they can't give me one till I'm10 weeks! Bit rubbish...

I know I'm a newbie so sorry if I haven't read any former threads/don't know where the conversations are going but if anyone has any tips re my morning sickness moan I sure would appreciate it.

musiceverywhere Sat 04-May-13 17:06:59

Hi Mumoftwo! I haven't had it badly (so far) just felt a bit nauseous, but all the advice I've had says eat 'little and often' and that seems to help. I'm the same with not feeling like eating healthy stuff, don't think I've ever craved junk food so much. Hopefully some ppl will have better advice soon!
Michellephant, glad your scan was positive, it must have been v emotional. At least now they're giving you the extra care you need.

TakingTheStairs Sat 04-May-13 17:22:43

Michelle glad to hear the scan went well, though I am sorry that it was so tough for you.

Mumoftwo My nausea started at 5+3 and it took me until 7 weeks to figure out that I felt way worse after dairy products. Maybe see if there is a connection between when you feel at your worst and what you've eaten prior to that. I didn't cut it out completely, still have butter on toast & milk in my tea but not much more than that. No bowls of cereal, yoghurts, cheese etc. It made a MASSIVE difference to my nausea levels.
As music said. Little & often. Don't let yourself get too hungry as that made it worse for me.
The evening vomiting started for me about 8 weeks but after a week of that, suddenly my nausea levels are much better. Maybe only one or two little bouts of nausea a day. Vomiting has stopped too. I'm 9+3 now.
Just letting you know that it mightn't last as long as you think. I presumed I'd feel rubbish right until the end of the first trimester, and don't get me wrong, the nausea may come back again, but for now I seem to have a break from it.

LittleBells Sat 04-May-13 17:42:46

Can I ask, for those having Harmony tests, are you all in London or is the test available outside London too?

Dasie Sat 04-May-13 18:50:04

Little I'm in North Yorkshire. Found a couple of private clinics near me that offer the test so guess it will be available countrywide. They send the bloods to the USA for analysis.

QueenofWhispers Sat 04-May-13 19:02:20

Hi guys,

as far as the harmony test, I was going to have one (yes, I do live in London, but I think you can have them done most places).

However, as I'm looking for something specific I've been told to just wait and do the CVS--not exactly sure why.

I am having terrible anger problems...I don't recognise myself.

Today I went to lunch with friends from out of town and we decided we would go out for Indian food. When I got to the restaurant I specifically asked if it was 'true indian food' or if it was the fake british fusion stuff they make for the general public. I was assured twice by management it was only Indian...so Imagine my disappointment when the dish I asked for came to my table soupy and full of sugar. I could have blown a gasket. (I never care about food this much, I really don't)--what's worse is I demanded to speak to the 'chef' to ask him why what I was looking at was being called the dish I had ordered.

oh, the anger...why is it here?

QueenofWhispers Sat 04-May-13 19:03:48

And the reason I know indian food-- is because I am actually Indian. You cannot lie to an indian woman about indian food. We can smell the lie 600 yards away. Why I gave them the benefit of the doubt--I will never ever know. AHHHHHHH

weechops Sat 04-May-13 19:20:10

Can I have a wee grumble? Told the children last night that mummy has a baby in her tummy and they were so excited, especially dd.

So we said she could tell papa today when we saw him (dh dad) He was really happy which was lovely and gave me a hug, asked loads of questions etc but then my bil turned up with his 2 boys (dh brother) Dd told him and all he managed was 'well done' and nothing else.

I may have mentioned before that bil and his wife announced their pregnancy at 3 weeks only a couple of weeks after my mc in January. Then I was made out the bad guy when I said I may find it hard to talk about it with her for a while. I apparently ruined her good news with my disappointment!

So now I haven't had so much as a text from sil and I don't actually know why I feel so bad about it. Maybe she thinks I'm stealing her thunder of something? Ah I don't know. I've been so nice to her, always asking after her etc. maybe it's just my hormones smile

Thanks for letting me moan, I know it's petty smile

mumoftwoboysS Sat 04-May-13 19:43:09

TakingTheStairs interesting about the dairy- I don't actually have proper milk due to feeling bloated/nausea when not pregnant and have a mix of rice milk and lactose free milk (you should try it if you crave dairy/milk) but will cut down other dairy -cheese etc and see if it helps! I thought it was evenings I felt worse until today! Maybe week 8 is the worst and it'll tail off...hopefully!!....

OH loves curries and I've warned him I won't be partaking for a while! He can have the curry, I'll have the rice!

thanks for the tips- will try little and often.

TakingTheStairs Sat 04-May-13 19:48:48

weechops that's very annoying. How selfish is your SIL , you "ruined" her good news about being pregnant by daring to be sensitive because you'd had a mc only weeks before? I want to shout at her! How rude!
Poor you xxxx

mumoftwoboysS Sat 04-May-13 19:56:09

oh and Queenof -sympathise- although I can't stomach curry now I LOVE it normally and hate the sugary soupy Brit stuff some places serve up too. They do the same with Chinese. I grew up in HK and authentic Chinese food is nothing like the stuff they sell in takeaways here- it's all greasy and sweet. Proper Chinese food is light, healthy and not at all greasy.

LittleBells Sat 04-May-13 20:04:58

Thanks dasie and QueenofWhispers re the Harmony test.

I had a little look on the internet and found the nearest city to me that does it, it seemed to be £750 or £850, but I wasn't really sure what I was looking at as the layout of the price page was so bad, so that might have been for something else (or a lot extra as well as the Harmony test!) If that's the real price, I'm just working out if I can justify it money-wise, or if I should just wait for the normal scan.

Re dairy, I went right off milk and cheese too! anything liquidy especially milk put me off so much! Maybe there is something in the dairy thing about contributing to nausea. I have felt so very nauseous for weeks, but it's worn off this week (week 9) now I am worried that I don't feel as sick any more! Can't win!

QueenofWhispers I know what you mean about the rage! I have definitely got a shorter fuse than usual. I just feel like I won't put up with any nonsense!

weechops that's really petty of your SIL. Imagine not sending you a congratulatory text, especially after your mc in January. Let's hope she comes round in time. Perhaps she is a little bit jealous that you've got pregnant again, so she's having to "share" her pregnancy attention with you. Maybe she feels that her baby will have the limelight for less time because yours will be born shortly afterwards. What a shame she can't just think it will be nice to have cousins born close together. Hopefully she will come round before long smile

weechops Sat 04-May-13 20:39:18

Thanks taking and littlebells I guess I just wish I had a close relationship with my inlaws, but heyho I have plenty of fab friends to celebrate with smile

Hi everyone, had a few days of feeling right as rain, then yesterday and today have felt sick as a dog again. Also feel faint everytime I stand up, hope this doesn't last too long!

PistachioTruffle Sat 04-May-13 21:21:12

Music Thankyou smile I have been around, just lurking and reading rather than posting. I've got SO much work to do over the next few weeks I daren't find yet another reason to procrastinate! The tiredness really isn't helping either, all I want to do when I get home is sleep! I've given myself a day of doing nothing today though, and feel much better.

Weechops, sorry your SIL has been funny, she doesn't sound like a particularly nice or understanding person to be honest! How lovely that your kids are so excited though grin

Excellent news about the scan Michelle, good to hear they're looking after you.

It's funny about the dairy/nausea thing, I actually find it really helps! Eating an apple and a babybel cheese is my current nausea cure wink

QueenofWhispers Sun 05-May-13 14:32:12

eating apples, vanilla yogurt and walnuts--it's like heaven to me.

i'm still angry about the non indian--indian food yesterday. I really need to calm down.

inkymomma Sun 05-May-13 16:32:24

Feeling a little fed up today. For about 5 days now I have just felt completely exhausted (even afternoon naps and early nights aren't helping. Any pressure on my tummy makes me feel sick (this includes cuddles from DH) and just been feeling nauseous all the time. Been eating little and often but nothing seems to be helping. Sorry for the moan

Featherbag Sun 05-May-13 17:04:26

Back to work tomorrow, 13 hour bank holiday shift and I haven't been awake at the time my shift finishes for over 3 weeks hmm Please God let me be in triage - my hips have started hurting today, happened much later last time but led to me being on the sick and fairly limited mobility-wise for the last 5 weeks of the pregnancy.

FoxyRoxy Sun 05-May-13 18:56:18

queen please don't hurt me but your story made me laugh! I know what you mean about disproportionate anger though!

I cannot eat enough cheese please don't tell me it's making me feel worse I'll cry!

I had the harmony test as standard here last pregnancy (I am in Spain and have private insurance though). Just as well as I didn't get my 12 week scan until 14+2 so was too late to measure the nuchal fold.

weechops your sil sounds awful! You poor thing sad

FluffyDucky Sun 05-May-13 19:54:08

Inky, sorry to hear you feel so rough. I'm often finding when my tummy hurts & I feel sick it's because of constipation. I've got IBS so am used to it to a small amount but it can really make you feel down.
Sorry if tmi, but do you go regularly to the toilet?

inkymomma Sun 05-May-13 20:27:22

My DH says my bowels are abnormal anyway. I usually only poo once every 2 days or so. I think everything is just slow in my body :-s

yogafan Sun 05-May-13 20:31:55

Poor you inky, can you manage coke, crisps and as much lying down as possible? Hope you feel better soon x

Soopermum1 Sun 05-May-13 21:52:22

feather, good luck with your shift. sounds a nightmare. I get tired just with my eight hours a day behind a desk!

successful shopping yesterday, some lovely soft stretchy leggings.

I'm a bit moodier than usual, broken sleep probably contributes the most.

going to get back to running tomorrow. I suspect my less defined waistline is more about the extra crap I've been eating since I gave up smoking rather than baby.

musiceverywhere Sun 05-May-13 23:55:28

Hi all
Queenofwhispers your lunch story made me laugh! Hope your rage has subsided a bit.
weechops ah the trouble that is the ‘in-laws’. Bit rubbish of her not to say congrats, especially as she knew you had a mc previously. Hopefully you’ve heard something from her by now. I find it really hard to suddenly have a 'close' relationship with people who are almost complete strangers in some cases.
inkymomma hope you start to feel better soon. I’m the same with being tired all the time and then when I finally get to bed my mind won’t stop whirring and I can't sleep!
feather hope you get through your shift, I know its particularly hard to do when you work in healthcare but remember to look after you also, don’t run around too much.
Not much new here, v sleepy. Just waiting for hospital appointment so can get answers to my many questions! Had letter from clinic summarising scan results. My cyst is really quite large... if I wasn't pregnant and had it removed, would be instant weight loss! Obviously don't care about that now, just need it out of the way so baby can grow. Hope you'll all be here to chat to in the coming months. Obviously as recovering from surgery can be quite a tedious affair, we've decided to push ahead with house extension over the summer, so that I have some builders to keep me company.....hmm

2RedEars Mon 06-May-13 09:20:33

Hello all I'm new. I Found out i was pregnant 2 weeks ago so about 7 weeks according to the doc but I think I'm a week behind so calculating my cycle. EDD is 28/12/13Can I ask when u went to the dr did they do a preg test to confirm mine didn't?? Just gave me my Mat exempt form & booked me for my first midwives appointment - what happens at this appointment will be 11 weeks then is that scan date??? It will be at my gps not main hospital.Sorry for the Qs

PistachioTruffle Mon 06-May-13 09:39:33

Hiya 2redears, congratulations grin

As I understand it, GPs don't actually do another test to check, as the home tests are so sensitive and accurate nowadays.

If your midwife appointment is at your GP then it sounds like your booking appointment - they will go through your medical history, take some blood, do your blood pressure, give you your notes and some information about pregnancy. I think some areas the midwives will organise your scan, and others you get an appointment through the post. Hope that helps!

Hey everyone, haven't posted for a while and its so hard to catch up.
Violet I hope everything is ok.
2labradors my scan is the 23 rd as well! Got a letter the other day. They've booked me in for the risk for Down's syndrome test (can't remember what it's called) which I declined so will have to tell them when I get there that's its the dating scan only. You can buy scan photos at £4 a pop!
I'm still feeling sick as a pig and being sick normally in the late afternoon/evening. Not managing to eat a wide range of foods and obviously dinner Normally comes back up. Feeling shattered too. Can't wait til I feel better and can take ds out and bout and be normal again!

2RedEars Mon 06-May-13 18:05:25

Thanks Pistachio! 1st pregnancy so all new to me. My DH wants to come to the appointment, just incase they do a scan. I was told by my Gp that I would have my 20 week scan at the surgery. So may have one when I go.

dutchyoriginal Mon 06-May-13 20:16:11

Hi all, haven't posted much, but lurked mostly. Tomorrow, I should be at 8 weeks. I'm very worried now. My booking appointment with the midwife is next Friday and my dating scan on de 23rd, just like quietninjatardis.

However, I noticed some brown CM/discharge yesterday, several times during the day. This morning, I thought everything was normal again. Then, during lunchbreak, I noticed actual blood and something that looked like a little blood lump/clot. Called the midwife and fortunately, I can have a scan tomorrow afternoon. She said that clear red blood is a bad sign, but also said I should have cramps/pain and I haven't! I had a MC a couple of years ago and remember the pain. I feel some strange twinges, like something is moving or something, but definitely no pain. confused

FX that it's nothing and that I'll have a safe and healthy pregnancy, but right now, I'm def worried. sad

2Labradors Mon 06-May-13 20:21:24

feather really hope your shift went ok, 13 hours is a long time

quiet how exciting. We're not having the downs test either, just dating scan. 2 weeks on Thursday, I hope it doesn't drag.

redears welcome and congratulations. That sounds good about the scan at your surgery.

We've had a lovely bank holiday weekend. I've been drinking shloer which tastes quite nice actually.

I've got my booking in bloods tomorrow so have avoided sugar all day today (no shloer today) as my urine had showed glucose and I'm hoping my full blood count won't show a high glucose.

dutchyoriginal Mon 06-May-13 20:23:31

Music, have you had continued spotting due to your cyst?

FX for all of us to have lovely healthy babies!

Ganetgob Mon 06-May-13 20:32:45

I haven't post for ages, but I've been reading everyday, so am up to speed with everyone I think!

I'm sorry you're going through a worrying time, dutchy. Lots of ladies on here seem to have experienced similar worrying things and loads have had scans and it has turned out to be nothing serious. Their babies are still going strong, so try and keep as positive as you can! smile fingers crossed for you tomorrow!

I have a scan tomorrow too. It's just a reassurance scan booked privately. Was only £45, which I thought wasn't too much to put my mind at rest! I'm feeling really nervous about it to be honest. I know other people on here have genuine things to be worried about in terms of bleeding, cramping and all sorts, but I just can't help it. I'm a worrier.

I hope everyone has had a lovely long weekend. Don't forget to turn your alarms back on for tomorrow!

Ganetgob Mon 06-May-13 20:35:43

Don't you hate it when you read your post through twice before you post it and then you see a mistake just as you've pressed send!?!? Grrr!

Holly1977 Mon 06-May-13 20:50:50

Hope everything goes ok tomorrow Dutchy, let us know.

For those of you feeling sick, crackers can be quite good.

The only issue at the mo seems to be an achy low back, particularly if I don't take it super easy which I'm just not capable of doing! Went for a long walk today then did some gardening and was on my feet all day on Saturday supervising my friends doing DIY which I'm no longer capable of doing.

I'm finding it sweet and annoying in equal measures how differently people are treating me. I'm getting extra special hugs from mil, people ask how I am more and are generally more solicitous and kind which is nice. But I am finding it a bit annoying when people tell me what I can and can't do, particularly when it's stupid. I know they mean well but honestly, I can mow the bloody lawn! I'm pg, not dying or crippled!

I am a little bit resentful sometimes of the fact that df can still smoke and drink and eat whatever he wants and not be constipated and windy, and a bit annoyed that he hasn't stopped smoking. I know there's no point in nagging him about though it and hopefully he'll stop soon. I have told him that he can't drink once I'm nearly ready to pop and he definitely needs to have stopped smoking by the time bean arrives. Am already thinking about the fact his family and best friends are all smokers who smoke in the house and the arguments I see coming about my not taking bean round there because of it. They all seem to think that smoking in the next room to children is ok... Anyway, that's all a long way off. Midwife appt this Friday, really looking forward to that and getting some questions answered.

LadyMedea Mon 06-May-13 21:22:39

holly if I were you I would nag on the smoking. Passive smoking is not good in pregnancy. Is been linked with higher risk of stillbirth, behaviour problems, cancer in kids... And the list goes on and on. Not meant to scare you but it should be taken seriously. They've got to smoke outdoors at a minimum. I'd just print off some articles and leave them lying around if I were you.

musiceverywhere Mon 06-May-13 21:45:04

Hi 2redears welcome to thread, v impressed that your GP surgery does scans! Its all new to quite a few of us I think, I reckon there’s no such thing as a silly question, people seem happy to advise when they can.
quietninja sorry you’re still sick, must be awful. Hopefully it will pass soon. Good to have a scan date to look forward to.
dutchy sorry to hear about your bleeding, you must be worried. I have carried on spotting most days, but its almost always brown and the dr at my hospital appointment said it was prob due to haemorrhagic cyst that they saw. (the other, larger cyst is outside my uterus) Good that your midwife has sorted a scan so promptly for you. Thinking of you.
ganet glad all going well. I was going to get a private scan too before all palava with cyst etc. That’s a great price btw. Hope it goes well.
holly I share your frustration at the not drinking, it’s been a perfect day for a gin & tonic. Yesterday DH ordered pate as a starter (which he hardly ever eats and I love) and sat next to me while I looked longingly at it and ate his salad instead envy You’ve done so well not smoking, make sure you ask midwife/pharmacist/GP for support with it if you need some. It would be even better if your DF could give up also, especially once ‘bean’ arrives. Can your midwife help to explain to him how important this is? Hope appointment on Friday is helpful.
I’m either full of a cold or have developed hayfever for first time ever. Also developed craving for salty chips and still falling asleep all the time. But on the plus side…I have taken tomorrow off work grin

dutchyoriginal Mon 06-May-13 22:14:16

Thank you for all your good wishes! Really hope everything will be fine and I'll let you know tomorrow.

Salty snacks really helped with the nausea in my previous two pregnancies, especially later in the day.

Goodnight, I'm off to bed, because I'm an hour ahead of all of you. Also need to teach two classes before going to the scan, that is, if everything goes ok tonight (WHICH IT WILL!).

violetbean Mon 06-May-13 23:15:57

Hey all,

Thanks again for the messages and thoughts. Much appreciated!

Dutchy, hope scan goes well, keeping fingers crossed for you.

Had a lovely long weekend, quite chilled, involved clearing out shed and a nice bbq. My scan date is 23rd May too, am counting down the days smile Feeling better than last week, had a great counselling session today when I realised that I'm really my own harshest critic!

I'm teetotal so thought I'd share some of my favourite non-alcoholic drinks, inspired by the schloer in a previous post. Share back if you have any faves!

Pineapple juice and lemonade / soda
Elderflower cordial and water / soda / lemonade
Raspberry lemonade
Lychee juice and lemonade /soda
Any flavour J2O with dash of lemonade /soda
Ribena, orange juice and water
Blackcurrant cordial and soda (very cheap in pubs!)
Lime cordial and soda (ditto)
Apple juice with crushed ice, lime juice, sugar, soda, mint and lime wedges (virgin mojito)

Have a good night everyone!

Featherbag Mon 06-May-13 23:22:43

Well that was hell. My lower back hurts so much it took me 25 minutes to get to the bust stop instead of 15, then after waiting 40 minutes after the bus was due, 3 go past together but all full as the match had just kicked out and the bus company was operating a Sunday service. So I had to call a taxi from the pub over the road, which I can't really afford. I'm in agony, exhausted and starving, but can't take any painkillers other than what I've already had, I have no energy to eat anything and can barely summon the motivation to crawl up the stairs and take my makeup off!

On the plus side, told my colleagues today and they're all really pleased for me. And work itself was great, thoroughly enjoyed myself even if I did feel after 3 weeks off like I didn't have a clue what I was doing at first! Right, must start making my way to bed. DS had us awake and up at 5am, if he does the same tomorrow he may have to sleep in the shed from now on, with the spiders. Sorry I don't have the energy to catch up on posts, hope everyone's ok x

b0nker5Mum Tue 07-May-13 06:30:45

Awrr feather sounds a horrid journey home, hope you managed a good sleep?

My scan is 23rd as well! Seems a few of us on that day!!

Featherbag Tue 07-May-13 07:00:57

DS decided sleep was once more for the weak and woke us with 'nappy presents' at 5am. I am not a pretty sight this morning. But the sun is shining, it's going to be a scorcher, and (gulp) I should hear about The Job today!

yogafan Tue 07-May-13 08:43:53

Good luck for the job!!! We were up at 5 today as well, grrrrr....

b0nker5Mum Tue 07-May-13 09:07:37

Fingers xd it's good news feather, hope you manage to get some rest today.

13loki Tue 07-May-13 10:19:45

Good luck with the scan Dutchy
featherbag good luck for the job

Well,#2 vomited in the car on the way home from nursery. Then she had so much diarrhoea she needed a shower and I had to clean the rug. Then she went back to sleep, crawled up on me and vomited again! Finally got to bed just after 12, then she was sick again. She woke up for the day at 4:30. So I had 4 hours sleep, but that was broken with me changing her bed. I've been to the health centre (2 buses and half an hour away) for my blood tests for the combined Downs test, during which the receptionist refused to speak to me in English, so I had to stumble through with my ridiculously bad swedish, then the nurse didn't speak english, so we just mimed what we were doing.

Featherbag Tue 07-May-13 10:37:02

Didn't get it. Wounded.

yogafan Tue 07-May-13 10:50:03

Oh bum, that's crap. Really sorry. It's their loss I'm sure. Maybe your REAL dream job is just around the corner...

TakingTheStairs Tue 07-May-13 10:53:55

Oh Feather that's very upsetting, sorry you didn't get it.

Holly1977 Tue 07-May-13 11:57:01

Sorry to hear that Feather, rubbish news.

DF is not allowed to smoke in the house. I think the best way is to give him the info and let him make his mind up. He's really stubborn and the more I go on at him, the more he'll dig his heels in.

Hay fever has kicked in hugely today. I've sneezed like 50 times already, it's really doing my head in. GP originally said no to steroid nasal spray. Doctor colleague not so sure and says I may be able to use steroid anti histamines. NHS website says it's ok sometimes. Confused.com! Should I go see the GP again before Friday? Can midwives prescribe and/or give medication advice? I can't go all summer like this, it's exhausting and will only get worse.

mumoftwoboysS Tue 07-May-13 12:14:36

I wish I knew when my scan was! Glad a lot of you have a scan to look fwd to. My mw apt is on 23rd so mine will be another 2 weeks after that I guess...

I'm finding snack a jacks salt and vinegar rice cakes are helping with my morning sickness. After eating a whole large bag of M&S salt and vinegar crisps I thought it was time to find an alternative- then at least I won't put on 4 stone eating all those crisps, maybe just 2!

woke at 4am on sunday morning feeling sick and hungry -so last night had the snack a jacks on my bedside table just in case. Anyone else waking feeling sick at night?

Harmony Test is available outside of London but it is a lot more expensive so it is worth looking to see if you'll save money by travelling there. Nearest place to me that I've been recommended is just outside of York but it is £600 without train fares. Going to London with my OH will cost us £380 WITH travel costs. That's from Manchester. Personally I won't go anywhere for it that I haven't been recommended anyway.

Fetal Medicine Centre puts the money back into research. It's the same clinician who developed the nuchal fold measurement test in the first place so definitely reputable. They're pushing for Harmony to be available ASAP on the NHS but to back it they'll need the positive research. I can't wait to be a part of it.

Those who aren't having the down's screening, just thought I'd add that I didn't with my first baby either as I was 23 at the time and suffering from anxiety (I was in a difficult job at the time and always at risk of harm) and the midwife talked me out of it because she thought it'd just make the anxiety worse. I didn't think I'd mind about DS but I hadn't researched it thoroughly at the time. Once I got the diagnosis at the 20 weeks scan of her heart defect (half of babies with DS have heart defects and require surgery of some description) they recommended amnio and that's when I got the diagnosis.

I wouldn't go back and have the screening and change things, but I do think it is probably harder to decide what to do once you have felt your baby moving around, seen it several times etc. Even her 16 week heartbeat sounded absolutely fine. I'm not saying you should change your minds but it is worth researching DS thoroughly because they don't tell you enough when you're pregnant (because there just isn't time to warn you about these things). A huge number of babies die before term or before they are 1 year old with DS, males will never have children (only 2 recorded fathers with DS), females have an extremely high miscarriage rate... early dementia, 1 in 100 will have leukemia, unknown severity of learning difficulties, gastrointestinal problems... for me there were too many things to put my baby through. She would definitely have needed open heart surgery if she'd have ever gotten strong enough for it.

The only reason I wouldn't go back and change whether I had the screening or not is because I got far enough for my OH to feel her kick (sadly after the diagnosis) and that was a very special moment to us.

Your whole life would change whatever you decided to do if your baby had DS, or any disorder for that matter. There isn't an easy option. My friend got 1 in 330 at her screening and they nearly talked her out of the amnio because she was 22. She insisted and she was the one and had her baby 4 days after I had my baby. 2/3 of babies with DS are conceived by younger mums (this is because younger mums have more babies in general, so older mums are still more likely to have babies with DS but they just have less babies in general).

On a final note, people think I didn't want my baby because I'm young and didn't want the lifestyle change. I'm a student social worker and passionate about disability rights. I know all the available support avenues. Nothing in this world would allow me to keep her knowing it was for my benefit rather than hers though. It hurts having to sign on the dotted line to end your baby's life. I never thought I would do it. I was Catholic and lost huge parts of my life in those two weeks. My baby and part of my identity. It wasn't worth keeping them and hating myself if she had died in pain though for the sake of being able to keep her a bit longer.

I feel like I'm such a killjoy! I probably shouldn't be in this group because I know it is going to get to the point where people refer to "gender scans" and I'm going to get mad!

Good luck everyone :D and may the odds be ever in your favour!

rylea Tue 07-May-13 12:53:25

Morning, is anyone else concerned about a lack of symptoms? I felt sick around weeks 6-7 but now nothing, I’ve felt starving too and now I’m just back to normal! Got my scan booked for the 15th and had awful dreams about it last night, I feel like I’ve been waiting desperately for a scan date and now it’s near I’m terrified! My partner works away and he doesn’t really understand why I’m so nervous but it’s all I seem to do to occupy my time, Google is my nemesis!

Holly1977 Tue 07-May-13 13:01:31

Thanks Michelle for such an honest and helpful post. I'm going to have all the screening I can for ds. The honest truth is I don't know what we'd do but either way, I want to know as early as possible.

There's a new nasal spray out that's definitely safe for pg ladies. It's canned Prevalin and is basically a kind of barrier, so neither steroid nor anti histamine. Thank God!

StyleManual Tue 07-May-13 13:50:21

rylea - Yes! No symptoms here. I had a bit of nausea at weeks 6-7 and now I just feel normal. I'm 9 weeks now and no nausea, boobs feel normal and the same size, no bump yet obviously, feel quite energetic. I dunno. I feel so much different to last time round. Maybe I don't have as much time on my hands to think about it now I have a toddler in tow.

Can't wait to get my scan date through so I have something to look forward to.

Not long till 15th though - good luck!

QueenofWhispers Tue 07-May-13 14:40:00


I was quite young when I had my DS (I was 23) and I too wasn't in the right place for all the screenings. I was finishing up a dissertation and applying for a specific masters.

Our Dear Son was born with Autism and although there is nothing that can check for ASD; we really should have been less naive about younger couples having perfect babies. sad I truly am sorry for your experience.

Having a child with a disability is the hardest thing to deal with--bar none...believe me, I know.

As it is, I have to find out what our options are as soon as possible because having a second child with a disability would be horrific. The implications it would have on our current child and his future...the future of my marriage too would depend on the stress generated by another child with needs.

I know how selfish I sound....but my first child came first...I have duty to give him the best I can. (The guilt truly kills me).

rylea Tue 07-May-13 15:10:25

StyleManual- Thanks for that! Yep not too long! No one knows either so it’s hard not having anyone to talk too, think I need to make myself busy smile

MildredH Tue 07-May-13 15:24:06

Ladies I could do with a bit of hand holding this afternoon .. Had our private scan yesterday for reassurance. All great, measuring 9+5, matches dates.

Just now had some pink spotting. Am on a train hundreds of miles from home. Meeting my mum for a few days by the sea. Don't know what to think. Waiting half hour or so, will go back to the loo and see if its stopped or still going.

Could I be that unlucky? I want to believe all those stats I keep posting but this morning stupidly read a thread where some posters said they'd mc after having seen the fetal heart on scan. Gah. sad

Sorry for such a self indulgent post.

Michelle the reason I'm not having the screening for ds is because A I won't have an amnio if my risk factor is higher so pointless spending my pregnancy worrying and B I wouldn't ever terminate anyway unless the baby had a problem that meant they wouldn't live. It is something I've thought about and I cannot see the point if I would refuse further tests. I can see your point of view but I feel differently. I am sorry you had to make that decision is must have been very hard.

Feather I'm sorry about the job, that's pants.

<holds Mildred's hand>
If you keep spotting see if you can go the local epu for a scan. Do you have your notes with you?

nannynome Tue 07-May-13 15:29:53

hey, thought I would join in too. I found out I am pregnant last week with my first, still getting used to the idea! Think I am about 7/8 weeks. Came off pill after 16 years thinking it would take ages and it happened instantly. First midwife appt tomorrow, hoping to figure exact due date soon as everything is a bit haphazard because of not having a period after coming off the pill. Have had hideous period type cramps for the last 3 nights, no spotting or anything so having read up am presuming it is normal. I used to get awful period cramps so am guessing I am just annoyingly sensitive sad belly is soooo bloated too. DH has multiples in his family so also nervous about that, i used to work childcare and nannied several sets so at least i have a bit of an idea!

still sinking in though smile

Dasie Tue 07-May-13 15:42:40

Michelle that was a very moving post. I can not ever begin to imagine the pain you went through with losing Poppy, but I also really need to know if my baby has any medical problems ASAP which is why I've opted fro the Harmony test. In my book informed is empowered but I don't know how I'll handle the situation should any problems be found. I'm going to the clinic at Stamford Bridge (which I assume is the one you mentioned)

Feather commiserations on your bad news

Mildred Here as another cyber hand holder, fingers x for you.

Welcome all the new ladies to the bus grin

MildredH Tue 07-May-13 15:51:00

Thanks Quiet & Daisie.

Haven't got notes yet- collect them at 12w scan but will go to EPU if it gets worse.

Popped back to loo. Just v light pink when wipe.

Just wish I was at home now sad

kyz1981 Tue 07-May-13 16:38:21

Queen - it sounds like we are in a similar situation my DS is Autistic , he is my second child and we thrashed out the options of having a third - telling Family and some friends is going to be stressful for us as they will only focus on What if's... We have enough of those ourselves. I am also having the Harmony and not finding out the gender as I don't want to spend this Pg worrying. My Ds is only 2 3/4 so I am hoping he will meet some milestones with this baby all being well.

Feather So sorry about the rubbish news.

Mildred Fingers crossed for you and def go/call an EPU if only to speak to a midwife.

My MS has eased and I finally feel a bit more human, so I am torn between relief and worry that its stopped- also been stupidly emotional crying at adverts and even Peppa Pig blush

Welcome to all the newbies x

QueenofWhispers Tue 07-May-13 17:36:54

hi KYZ1981

having a child with ASD is hard, but thankfully Ds is progressing well. How is your DS doing? I'm sure you've got everything sorted regarding a program and stuff but if you ever need help, I am here. smile

My DH has ASD too, and managed well enough. His parents didn't know what they were doing, but inadvertently did a VB program with him until he was 6. He ended up going to Westminster School (the one at the Abbey) from under school to secondary and then off to Oxford for Math.

By the time I'd met him I just thought he was hot, handsome and knew what he wanted. (Me). The sad thing has been, because of our respective cultures; ASD is seen as a mental illness and not a developmental disorder so he was to keep it a 'secret' so he wouldn't be judged.

Olive2012 Tue 07-May-13 17:39:08

Thanks Michelle also for such an honest post. It is so hard to get information from doctors and the hospital and there is so much conflicting info on the Internet. I can't imagine what you and your partner went through. I called the hospital antenatal unit today as am about 8.5 weeks and haven't heard anything from them, even in respect of a midwife appointment.. They told me they were still on due dates at end of November so to hold tight! I am worried though because the provisional date they gave me for the 12 week scan would be when I was 12.5 weeks and isn't that problematic for the nuchal fold scan?

Olive2012 Tue 07-May-13 17:45:19

Ps hope all is ok Mildred. Fingers crossed that it stops soon x

northerncakequeen Tue 07-May-13 17:50:48

Hello :D
Anyone mind if I join you?
I found out a few weeks ago that I was pregnant for the 5th time...bit of a shock tbh and just getting used to the idea.
Struggling with generally feeling rotten but it's a feeling I've grown to know well over the years and just hanging on in there at the moment until I hit the 12 week mark.
Am about 7wks 3 days I think...edd 20 Dec but will be CS so baby will come a bit earlier :D

MildredH Tue 07-May-13 17:59:30

Thanks Olive. Seems to have stopped.

Sorry to be a panic pants.. Just felt very alone on this train hurtling into Cornwall! Don't want to panic my mum, who I'm meeting.

Fingers crossed is a blip. The roller coaster of emotion is exhausting.

kyz1981 Tue 07-May-13 18:12:51

Queen- He is doing well - we have him on an ABA/VB program and are starting to statement, he is verbal but has no functional language yet- but we have seen so much progress from VB- I am hopeful it will come. I guess the only thing that worries me is how I can get him through the education system with his self-esteem in tact and some form of education, also starting the Gaps diet soon to see if that helps his bowels.

My DH has several ASD traits and my Dad was clearly a classic Aspie so I know it is genetic in my DS case - but my DD is pretty typical so the odds are still on our side according to the genetics team.

I am hoping ASD is a bit more understood by the time DS is an adult and he can take pride in who he is.

We entered in to this knowing that this baby would have a higher percentage of being on the spectrum or at least having traits, however with the interventions we are using with DS - I hope that if that was the case we could start them earlier - I am also not afraid of Autism now I understand it - But I also know how restrictive and hard work it can be.

But me and Dh are in no -doubt that having a sibling will be a great benefit to DS and allow him an accepted social circle.

Olive you are fine for the NF test until you are 13 weeks 4 days, but you could tell them you are a bit unsure of dates and they may try and get you in a bit sooner.

QueenofWhispers Tue 07-May-13 19:09:12


it's lovely to hear about your DS. I totally agree with ABA/VB programs. I really feel it's the best choice we have made. Having patience is what has really done terrible things to me,(I am the least patient person in the world) but our VB program has worked wonders and I am ever soo confident that DS will do well. When he was 2.5 he was selectively mute--verbal only around myself and my youngest sister. He's 4.5 now and he is such a gentleman! He still has his quirks, but he says some of the sweetest things; he is ever sooooo excited about the 'baby'

Also, I'm pretty sure he will not be a drug taking, over entitled snot that I see on TV. (I think I'll be using ABA VB forever). x

froubylou Tue 07-May-13 19:18:06

Good afternoon everyone.

I hope we all enjoyed the lovely long weekend of sun. I know we did. Had a pony show on sunday and a bbq yesterday afternoon. Felt a bit odd not drinking but have very much taken the moral highground this afternoon as DH is feeling very, very hungover lol.

I got my days wrong last time I posted. Im not actually 7 weeks until today lol. Just wishful thinking on my part I think! Got midwife next tuesday.

Symptom wise I've been lucky so far. Felt a bit sicky first week but nothing major. Got sore boobs, big swollen tummy and need a bit of a nap mid afternoon if I can get away with it but other than that am feeling pretty good. Big hugs to all those that are struggling with sickness etc.

MildredH hope things work out OK for you. If you are worried you must tell your ma and go to the local hospital/walk in centre or whatever you have where you are.

I really can not wait until the 12 week scan. I'm pretty sure I am only 7 weeks but am going to get midwife to have a feel of my tummy to check. Have really ballooned tummy wise and as we have been trying for so long (3 years) it is possible I am further on. My mum didn't know she was pregnant with my youngest sister until she was 12 weeks gone and I'm the oldest out of 6 so you would have thought she'd have known! Last period was 16th march and nothing extraordinary though the last couple have been quite light and short when I think back.

I thought my periods getting shorter and lighter were a sign of some serious issue that was preventing me from getting pregnant TBH. Had just decided to get properly checked out when I got my BFP. Aint that always the case lol.

Olive2012 Tue 07-May-13 20:41:48

Thanks kyz and glad to hear its stopped Mildred. Its my first so not quite sure how it all works and dont want them to leave things too late so that we cant get all the info we need. Congrats frubylou- my stomach has also absolutely ballooned - can only fit into two work dresses now which is a bit awkward!

Soopermum1 Tue 07-May-13 22:47:22

hi all. had viability scan and got bloods taken for the harmony test at the fetal medicine centre.

so far so good. they're so thorough there, she took ages and measured all sorts. baby jigged around quite merrily, probably because I was late and power walked there.

new edd is 1st december it keeps creeping forward. any more and I'll be part of the November thread.

can I ask anyone who knows about the harmony test. will they record and tell you the sex if you ask? have decided to find out this time.

FluffyDucky Tue 07-May-13 22:51:46

Fanbloodytastic, it's started already, I think I have some piles! Like I dont have enough trouble from my arse. blush

QueenofWhispers Tue 07-May-13 23:38:46

Going to FMC next week to do the harmony test anyway---theres a deal (I think it's a deal) where if you book to have harmony test and book for nuchal scan you can do both for £180? I just have to figure out how pregnant I am.

At the early pregnancy unit at chelsea and westminster hospital I am due on December 6th

At the Women's Wellness centre I am due on November 28th

At the Birth Centre on Harley St I am due on December 26th.

I am inclined to think that I am somewhere between November 28th and December 6th---I just wish I could just get one consistent date.

any one else ever have the case of Benjamin Button Bean?

DaisySwann Wed 08-May-13 07:00:15

Hi all. Bit worried this morning and need some advice/reassurance... I've had really bad ms the last week and really sore boobs. Have woken up this morning and nothing ... Not even a twinge or hint of sickness. Am 8 + 4 and had an early scan a week ago and all was good ( heard heartbeat).

Has anyone experienced anything like this before? Sorry to be such a worry but am really scared something is wrong, am 34 and this is #1.

dutchyoriginal Wed 08-May-13 07:13:57

Well ladies, I guess it's back to the buses for me. The next bit might be TMI.

Yesterday morning, I woke up with quite a lot of blood loss, so I already knew it wasn't good. Midwife scanned anyway and thought the bean must have stopped growing quite early, because she couldn't see much anymore. :-( I've called in sick and my boss is fortunately very understanding. He really sounded sad and upset for me. He said to call on Sunday evening to see how I feel and whether I'm up for work again. I feel a bit guilty towards colleagues for not going in today and them having to pick up my work, but on the other hand, I'm tired and crampy and can def use the rest.

After the scan, went to get pate and soft raw French cheeses. We also ordered sushi for dinner. What really helps me now, is the thought that MCs mean the fetus wasn't viable. Because we already have several inlaws and friends with serious and less serious disabilities, both mental and physical, we know how big the impact is on our lives and, more importantly, on our DS's life. If we can avoid, that would be better (but also heartbreaking).

dutchyoriginal Wed 08-May-13 07:17:42

Hi Daisy, (((hugs))). Call your midwife. It might be nothing, it might be bad news. My first pregnancy at 33 ended in a MC, but my second at 34 gave me my lovely DS!

froubylou Wed 08-May-13 07:19:23

So sorry to hear this dutchy. Biggest hugs.

Make sure you get plenty of rest before going back to work. Xx

dutchyoriginal Wed 08-May-13 08:01:42

Thank you! Best wishes to all of you!

yogafan Wed 08-May-13 08:14:18

Oh Dutchy, so sorry. Rest up, indulge in previously forbidden treats and take good care. Pleased your boss is understanding, don't feel bad about taking time to recover. Big hug xx

Holly1977 Wed 08-May-13 09:53:28

So sorry to hear your news Dutchy, big hugs. Gorge yourself on forbidden pleasures and take all the time you need off work xx

I'm feeling very sorry for myself today. I thought the usual hay fever had arrived but I'm thinking it's more likely to be a cold now. A friend who I spent Saturday with has it and df says he's feeling bunged up and crap. So cold it is, bollocks! I was awake for ages in the night so bunged up even mouth breathing was a challenge. I ended up having 2 wee squirts of Sudafed otherwise there's no way I'd have got any sleep at all. Spoke to colleague this morning and he says it's no biggie. Not ideal and not to do it every night but not to worry about it either. So I'm not looking forward to the next few days at all. Normally I just power through colds by taking shed loads of day and night nurse tablets but obviously I can't do that now. Paracetamol, olbas oil and the trusty old neti pot are all I'm allowed really. It's just really annoying and I'm getting really irritable and pissed off now. My nose is just streaming, reckon I've blown it (no exaggeration) about 50 times already this morning and am counting my sneezes, up to 8 in the past 5 minutes already! Sorry for the moan, it's just so fucking annoying!!!

Olive2012 Wed 08-May-13 09:56:31

Also really sorry to hear that dutchy. Please look after yourself and treat yourself to all the things you enjoy xx

Olive2012 Wed 08-May-13 10:16:51

That's rubbish holly. There is a natural remedy you can try which some of my pregnant friends have used : 1 teaspoon ground turmeric in warm milk with honey. Probably not as fast working as lemsip but hopefully helpful ;)

I am also contemplating the harmony test but I spoke to my GP about it and she said she would stick to the normal NHS tests as DNA tests (like harmony) can show up abnormalities which may not be noticeable or which can be treated in the womb. I was quite positive about it before but this concerned me - did anyone else's GP say this? Also for those ladies having harmony tests, will you also get the NHS scans done? I think I would probably get both as don't want to "fall out" of the system somehow!!

Holly1977 Wed 08-May-13 10:27:09

Thanks Olive but I can't drink milk, lactose intolerant! Do you think soy milk would work? I do quite like honey with lemon and ginger tea, might give that a go. Just a shame I can't put a big slug of whisky in it!!!

Ganetgob Wed 08-May-13 11:19:17

Really sorry to hear your news dutchy. I hope you are doing lots of relaxing and resting and best of luck to you in the future smile

Sorry to hear that you are feeling rubbish, holly. It's bad enough with lots of tablets! I don't really have any advice. Just keep telling yourself that by this time next week it will have buggered off!

I had my scan last night, was great. All is as it should be, we heard the heartbeat and it was very exciting. I have my booking in appointment today. I'm looking forward to it, just hope I can answer all the questions I'm asked!

Hope everyone is ok today and that symptoms aren't too bad!

Iris1 Wed 08-May-13 11:24:31

So sorry to all those with bad news and those with worries sad

I went to EPU yesterday as id been cramping and after miscarrying 9 weeks ago I'm not taking any chances. They said they didnt think I could be more than 4 weeks (I knew they were wrong but hey ho!) So they did my bloods - well they came back very high so im off for a scan today. So relieved just want to know whats going on, did I even miscarry? Was it disapearing twin? And above all is baby ok.

To those talking about asd my eldest has aspergers and my youngest is neuro typical. It hasnt put me off extending my family because I think the odds are in our favour, another sibling would benefit both my children, and if we come across asd again we can handle it. My son is quite high functioning but struggles terribly with structured sitiations, social situations and sensory processing - we have made the decision to home educate him and haven't looked back.

Holly1977 Wed 08-May-13 12:10:50

Good advice Ganetgob, "this too will pass" is my favourite saying. I need to take my own advice sometimes! I should buy shares in Kleenex, it's soooo annoying! Great news on your scan :-)

QueenofWhispers Wed 08-May-13 12:55:00

I'm sorry to hear of your loss Dutchy hugs and comfort to you. x

b0nker5Mum Wed 08-May-13 12:55:09

So sorry to hear that dutchy, I wish you well in the future and take care...

Daisy I feel like I am not having many symptoms, although I do feel nauseous and boobs still hurt... Apart from that nothing...

Had booking in appt yest, which was ok, the midwife seems lovely but didn't really ask about the progress of the pregnancy or symptoms.... She didn't even want to look at my scan pics!

They advised that I should think about a home birth as my previous labour (16 years ago!!!) was very quick! Eeek!

I have also a lot of (tmi) leaking down there, I wonder if its my pelvic floors not working or cm! Anyone else got this?

Iris best of luck with the scan...

weechops Wed 08-May-13 12:59:16

Dutchy so sorry to hear your news sad

I'm now onto day 4 of diarrea! It's torture. Ds bug cleared up fine but obviously passed the shits to me! I've been drinking water and lucozade sport and can only manage to eat toast. It wouldn't affect the baby though would it? Hate being ill.

Featherbag Wed 08-May-13 13:45:11

So sorry Dutchy, take care x

StyleManual Wed 08-May-13 13:58:50

Sorry to hear your sad news Dutchy. Hope you're taking it easy and being looked after xx

violetbean Wed 08-May-13 14:02:43

Dutchy, so sorry, thinking of you. sad thanks

Holly, hope cold clears up soon. Take it easy if you can. Be kind to yourself!

I've been feeling very odd today. Completely lethargic and just... well... sad. Can't face doing any of the stuff I wrote on my 'must do asap' list!

Am going to eat some lunch and then force myself to do one thing on the list. Then maybe reward myself with a treat...

Hi to all you lovely people out there, so nice to be able to share stuff with someone rather than feeling so alone.

Holly1977 Wed 08-May-13 14:04:55

I don't really have many symptoms either other than sore boobs and being slightly more hungry than normal. The mood swings have settled down as has the constipation. I am getting noticeably more discharge than normal though. Nothing too gross or indicative of an infection, just normal pregnancy stuff apparently.

Weechops, apparently you can take small amounts of codeine safely in pg if you've got very bad diarrhoea. It's not as effective as Loperamide but should slow things down a bit and give you some respite. I think the only effect on the baby could be if you get dehydrated. Yoghurts or yoghurt drinks with friendly bacteria are good to help you replace the gut flora that can be lost with long bouts of diarrhoea. I'm new to pregnancy but not to bum problems! ;-)

weechops Wed 08-May-13 14:12:38

Holly that's really helpful, thank you smile

kyz1981 Wed 08-May-13 14:59:45

Dutchy so sorry to hear your sad news- Thinking of you x

TakingTheStairs Wed 08-May-13 15:21:47

Dutchy, so sorry to hear your sad news flowers

PistachioTruffle Wed 08-May-13 16:10:42

I'm so sorry Dutchy, look after yourself flowers

Dasie Wed 08-May-13 16:49:42

Really sad to read your post Dutchy I'm thinking of you x

2Labradors Wed 08-May-13 18:21:39

dutchy I'm so sorry to hear your news

readyornot2011 Wed 08-May-13 18:51:22

Duchy, so sorry, be kind to yourself. You sound very strong in your post.

Violet, I think I know how you feel, some days I seem to waste the whole day just sitting feeling crap desperately willing myself to get even the slightest thing done. That's so not like me usually, I can be a whirlwind of efficiency when required. Didn't feel like this last time.

Any tips on neutralising smells. We have a big open plan kitchen/dining/living room which I love. However it is a nightmare since I became pregnant, my nose could detect a fart from 60m at the moment, the cooking smells and soot from the chimney when it rains make me feel dreadful. Last night I burned about 6 matches before bed which helped. Don't want something that will mask the smell with another sickly one just want the smells GONE argh!!!! Rant over blush

mumoftwoboysS Wed 08-May-13 22:26:30

Holly sorry just read advice re a drink with tumeric above- be careful, I read (when looking up why parsley should be avoided during pregnancy) that tumeric is also on the avoid list as it is a uterine stimulant (i.e. could potentially cause miscarriage) I'm sure it'd need to be a really high dose but just fyi. I was surprised that parsley is a no no as people don't really link it with those other dangerous things like smoking etc.

mumoftwoboysS Wed 08-May-13 22:31:52

So sorry to hear Dutchy - only just read back far enough to read your post.

musiceverywhere Wed 08-May-13 23:23:43

Dutchy- so sorry to hear your news. Take care of yourself, don’t think twice about work, I’m sure your colleagues will/would understand (depending if you’ve told anyone). Just do what you need to do and work will cope without you for a while. Hugs. (enjoy the pate and sushi) flowers
Michellephant- thank you for being so honest (and informative). I think no one can really say what they would do in that situation until they find themselves there. Again I’m sorry for all you’ve been through and send you all the best wishes/hugs/positive vibes for this pregnancy
Violetbean- thanks for the drinks suggestions, I LOVE mojitos, so may be trying the virgin one. Am currently trying elderflower cordial and soda water, can’t stand J20 and too much pure fruit juice can’t be good for anyones tummy!
Daisy- my ‘symptoms’ come and go a lot. Some days quite nauseous, then nothing. I think it varies so much for everyone. It’s so hard when its #1 isn’t it, you don’t know what you should be feeling.
Feather- sorry about the job. Obviously your perfect job is still out there waiting for you. Only one life changing event at a time maybe!? Glad your colleagues were pleased, hope DS has let you get some rest.
MildredH- great news on scan, hope you’re feeling a bit calmer after your train stress.
Glad scan went well ganet
Weechops If you’re still only managing to keep toast ‘in’, I would speak to GP. It isn’t good for you or baby to get dehydrated. Lucozade won’t replace what you’re losing in diarrhoea, need something like Dioralyte, but would chat to GP first. If it’s a tummy bug (rather than IBS) then I also wouldn’t take codeine to slow it down. Those bugs should be self-limiting, in that the bug is passed out of the system eventually and codeine might interfere with that. Hope you get some relief soon!
Hello to all newcomers!
Things not too bad here, STILL spotting. Checking post everyday for hospital appointment and starting to get daymares about surgery. Need more information! On the plus side I now have new toilet installed upstairs so no more 3am trips to downstairs loo. Still no shower though....

Holly1977 Thu 09-May-13 09:53:46

Never heard that about parsley and think it's probably bollocks tbh.


I grow all my own herbs and often chop fresh parsley and add it with lashings of real full fat butter to cooked veg. I'll still be doing that, it's certainly never caused any uterine contractions that I've noticed! If you added up all the advice out there and all the things you're not supposed to eat, I reckon you'd be living on bread and water for 9 months! Bad enough not having any booze, fags or pate for 9 months, never mind all this extra stress as well.

Midwife appointment tomorrow, very excited!

Cold's much better today, though that's a strictly relative term. Think I've actually pulled a couple of muscles in my back from sneezing so much yesterday! Had a relatively good night's sleep thanks to vicks inhaler, olbas oil infused tissues in my pillow case and vaseline smeared liberally all over my poor dried out lips and nose. Hot bath tonight I think. (not too hot! i don't cook myself like i used to!)

Not sure if this is a genuine craving or just a passing fancy but I'm obsessed with sweet potato mash at the mo. Could happily eat it every night.

Ridiculously excited about a trip to Nando's and the cinema on Saturday. This is as exciting as Saturday nights get now I suppose...

mumoftwoboysS Thu 09-May-13 10:02:21

yeah you're probably right that it's bollocks- I just find it annoying that once you read this stuff it's yet another thing you think you should be avoiding. I certainly didn't avoid parsley, tumeric or any other herbs in my last two pregnancies.

btw- anyone else eating like a horse?? I know you're not supposed to eat more calories till 3rd trimester (another load of big brother nonsense to make us feel guilty). I've put on 4lbs already and I'm only 8 weeks! I've got a little pot belly but sure it's mostly bloating! I just find I'm eating constantly to keep the nausea at bay...

sweet pot mash-not a a bad craving at all- very good for you!

TakingTheStairs Thu 09-May-13 10:11:49

Mumof2.... 4 lbs!! 4 lbs!!! I'd be delighted if I'd only put on four pounds!!
I'm 10+1 and I've put on 9lbs so far.
For the same reasons as you; non stop eating to keep nausea at bay. Screw it!
I'll happily take a few extra pounds rather than feeling like shit all day.

QueenofWhispers Thu 09-May-13 10:35:56

I've gained 7lbs.

Gooseysgirl Thu 09-May-13 12:00:30

Had bloods taken at FMC this morning for Harmony Test and quick scan to check for heartbeat, thankfully all was well. Baby measuring 10 weeks which is about right for our dates.

Very sorry to hear your news Dutchy

Holly1977 Thu 09-May-13 13:27:37

I read that you are meant to eat a bit more, 200 calories a day. It stands to reason you've got to eat a bit more, we're growing a bloody person in there! If you consumed the exact same number of calories as before, you'd lose loads of weight surely? I've gained about 3/4 lbs I think but my belly is noticeably bigger, I went up a size almost immediately. My colleague just commented on how big my boobs are! We're meant to put on weight, we're pg! As long as it's not too much too quickly I don't see the problem.

QueenofWhispers Thu 09-May-13 13:47:31

how many calories do you think our bodies are expending during gestation?

i heard it was something like 3000 calories a day? I would be losing tonnes of weight if that was the case...so I don't think it's accurate. Anyone know?

Holly1977 Thu 09-May-13 13:56:09

So apparently I read it wrong. No extra calories are required until the 3rd trimester, apparently.


I'm going to go ahead and call bollocks on that. How can you grow a person with no extra calories?!! Anyway, I've lost loads of calories through not drinking so I reckon I'm entitled to a couple of extra pies! ;-) I am actually eating really healthily though, seems to be what my body wants. I think as long as your BMI remains within the healthy range, you're fine. Let's not give ourselves yet another bloody thing to stress about!

mumoftwoboysS Thu 09-May-13 14:21:24

yeah I don't get that we're not supposed to eat more till 3rd tri either. If we naturally feel more hungry then surely we shouldn't ignore that!

I'm not worried as my BMI is borderline healthy- just over the underweight mark so I'm welcoming the extra pounds (I'll actually have boobs for once!!)

And like you say Holly- as long as BMI is healthy. I say eat! (she says tucking into a babybel.... and waiting for some yummy flapjacks to come out of the oven!...)

froubylou Thu 09-May-13 15:19:23

Im 7+2 and permanently starving but have lost 2lbs mainly due to no beer.

Though I seem to be constantly eating when I actually add up the cals it still only about 2000 on average. My df commented this morning that if you ignore my huge boobs and cement belly I actually look slimmer.

And speaking of boobies my word my girls are bloody huge. Was a big girl anyway 36e or f but just bedn and bought more non wired non sexy non cleavage monstrosities. In a 40g!

Ffs. Was the biggest size. Owt bigger is special big boob shops instead of debenhams. AND they had some beautiful fantasie sets in my size. AND had to ignore them because wires are driving me mad.

froubylou Thu 09-May-13 15:49:57

Im 7+2 and permanently starving but have lost 2lbs mainly due to no beer.

Though I seem to be constantly eating when I actually add up the cals it still only about 2000 on average. My df commented this morning that if you ignore my huge boobs and cement belly I actually look slimmer.

And speaking of boobies my word my girls are bloody huge. Was a big girl anyway 36e or f but just bedn and bought more non wired non sexy non cleavage monstrosities. In a 40g!

Ffs. Was the biggest size. Owt bigger is special big boob shops instead of debenhams. AND they had some beautiful fantasie sets in my size. AND had to ignore them because wires are driving me mad.

froubylou Thu 09-May-13 15:50:53

And repeating myself it seems. Lol.

yogafan Thu 09-May-13 16:10:12

I've just been for my booking in appointment - I've put on half a stone! And the midwife agreed I look at least a month more preg than i actually am (9 weeks) - I have a very pronounced pot belly, there's no disguising it. Was kind of hoping she'd send me for an early scan to check, but no luck. I'm pretty sure of my dates anyway, but would have jumped at the chance of a scan...

I'm sorry dutchy, I hope you are ok x

I don't think I've put weight on yet but I am still being sick several times a day and can only eat certain things anyway. My tummy is definitely starting to poke out a bit. I really cannot be arsed to care. I'm just really hoping the sickness eases soon as I am fed up with being useless.

QueenofWhispers Thu 09-May-13 19:30:56

mil just visited and is upset with me for the garden+dog and dog poo in garden and has said i look 'extra puffy'...

hiding in bed till the visit is over. sad

weechops Thu 09-May-13 19:41:20

Queen what a nasty cow she sounds! You're probably doing the best thing staying out her road so you don't get stressed. Hope she leaves soon for you smile hang in there!

yogafan Thu 09-May-13 20:24:20

Yes, stay away! Don't let her stress you. If she minds the poo so much she could help out and clear it herself!

LittleBells Thu 09-May-13 20:40:58

Sorry to hear your news dutchy x

LittleBells Thu 09-May-13 20:47:04

I won't have my booking in appointment until I'm touching 12 weeks! shock this is despite going to the doctors at 6 weeks! Everything takes so long. I will only be able to make a scan appointment once I've had the booking in too. Well envy of ladies with scans! wink

I am lurching between eating healthily and eating really badly ie sweeties and cakes. Although I feel puffy, and my tummy is getting quite hard to disguise, there's a distinct bump shape forming already! It must be true that second babies make bumps pop out sooner!

5ammy Thu 09-May-13 21:16:53

Hey ladies,

Sorry to those suffering :-(

Is anyone excercising? I like running, but husband Is really nervous about me going out 'and jiggling baby around'. I've just seen yoga classes advertised in the village - is this ok to start whilst pregnant? Anyone know?


If you already run then I think its ok to Carry on 5ammy but don't start a new high impact exercise when you're pregnant. I think you should check that the yoga class is suitable for pregnant ladies and if not then I'm sure you could find a class that is.
I have done zero exercise because I can barely move without wanting to throw up so whatever you do you're doing better than me.

mumoftwoboysS Thu 09-May-13 22:08:11

5ammy you could see if there's any pregnancy yoga in your area? I don't think a yoga teacher will accept you if they only do regular yoga as they have to be certified for pregnancy. I do pilates regularly and my pilates instructor seemed a bit reluctant for me to carry on in her class as she'd have to bring loads of extra stuff (like a wedge so I'm not flat on my back) and she has a busy class. Not sure if I'll continue or do it at home (I've got a pilates in pregnancy book) Run if you've been running previously to pregnancy- you can do it as long as you feel comfortable I think.

I'm going to keep swimming and cycling (when I stop feeling sick!)

5ammy Thu 09-May-13 22:20:16

Thanks guys!

Before I realised I was pregnant running helped with nausea. Now my husband gets all agitated when I suggest going for a run - think he thinks it'll cause some damage.

Will keep away from yoga class as the chances are I'll know people there and don't want to share my news yet.


QueenofWhispers Fri 10-May-13 00:29:10

I run! running is fine as long as you do it only until it stops being comfortable. (that's what my doctor told me).

yogafan Fri 10-May-13 06:46:41

Most pregnancy yoga classes won't let you join until you've reached 12 weeks. If you're feeling full of energy you might want to do a regular class for a bit (again, after 12 weeks) - some teachers are fine with this, others not. Pregnancy yoga can be quite slow, which is great when you're feeling knackered or are huge, but if you are glowing with energy to spare you might want something more energetic. Also, some preg classes focus in birth preparation, which probably feels miles away. If you already run, it sounds fine to continue. Hope that helps!

inkymomma Fri 10-May-13 08:10:48

Been working a lot recently. Only just catching up with all the posts.
dutchy so sorry to hear your sad news. Hope your managing to relax a little.
I'm feeling a little better. Nausea seems to appear when I'm hungry so seems like I'm constantly eating. Had a bath last night and DH said I deffo look pregnant. Apparently my tummy is pointed! People at work have started to touch my pot belly too. They think its funny as I've always been quite slim.
Got my first midwife appointment on Monday when ill be 9 weeks. Can't wait for my first scan :-)

Holly1977 Fri 10-May-13 10:35:16

Running is fine if you're used to it. Really kicking myself now for getting out of the habit before I got pg. My yoga teacher won't let me go in the first trimester but that's ashthanga yoga which is very physically demanding and hot. Though another asththanga woman said it was fine. If I ever get round to it, i'll do some at home. Pregnant yoga is usually just for 12 weeks plus. You could do hatha yoga I reckon, that's pretty much for old people anyway. Though whether an instructor would be ok with you joining is debatable. I've done no exercise for 2-3 weeks but mainly just cos I don't seem to have been able to find any time. I'm going for a swim today and am going to start cycling again next week. The good thing about yoga is it teaches you to breathe properly and have more control over your breathing, I am hopeful this will help come the big day!

Really giddy about seeing the midwife this afternoon! Feeling full of the joys at the mo, suspect this is mainly due to being on a massive detox, no longer having constant colitis induced diarrhoea and eating more healthily than normal :-)

Holly1977 Fri 10-May-13 10:39:42

Oh and is anyone else have problems concentrating at work? I just can't seem to motivate myself to give a shit about anything non baby related!!

MadBannersAndCopPorn Fri 10-May-13 11:23:03

Hi! I'm quite new to mumsnet, I don't know how these threads work blush
I know it sounds silly but do I need to read the whole thread?
I'm due 17th dec with babba number 2. Babba number 1 is going to be 18 months when I have new baby (ouch!)

Iris1 Fri 10-May-13 11:30:53

Hi everyone. Had a scan wed morning and everything is great. Im now almost ten weeks and officially due 9th December. So glad to finally know what is going g on and that everything is ok. Because I'm so far they have used as dating scan. Seeing midwife in just over aweek for booking in.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Im massive too. Really obvious pregnant but im on baby number 3 and have massive babies so that might have something to do with it xx

b0nker5Mum Fri 10-May-13 12:02:07

Iris, glad the scan went well.... We are due on the same day....

Madbanners, welcome and congrats, there are so many threads you'll probably get the gist... I'm pretty new to forums as well...

Holly... I am finding it almost impossible to concentrate... Hence posting on mumsnet!!!

FluffyDucky Fri 10-May-13 12:13:32

This is where having a flabby tum is helpful! I'm small and av a size 10 but my tum had never been flat or really toned. If I push on my flab I can feel the firmness under but I dont think you would know to look at me (apart from the boobs!)

Tamof4 Fri 10-May-13 12:20:01

Hello. I'm getting all mixed up with these threads, and don't know if I've already posted on this one!
Found out last week that I'm expecting my 5th child. 'twas a bit a shock!
My two anxieties with this pregnancy are : Telling my parents /mil and the other is hoping its not multiples this time. As much as I adore my twins, I don't think I could go there again!
I'm due 28th dec. Have the semblance of a bump already so not sure how much longer I can hide this ;-)

Tamof4 Fri 10-May-13 12:25:44

Haha, I've just read my post back. Erm, I do have more than two anxieties! Could someone add me to the list please, I'm computer illiterate.

MadBannersAndCopPorn Fri 10-May-13 12:32:32

Thank you bonkers! I've been a member for a while but not really posted until recently.
Am feeling pretty sofa ridden and have zilch energy, nausea, you name it! I really, really forgot what the first stages are like. Bring on 2nd tri! It's great to know everyone is more or less in the same boat!

Are there any multiples out there? Lots in both our families so may be a possibility for us!

Iris1 Fri 10-May-13 12:34:23

Thanks bonkersmum. Its exciting to think here will be a gorgeous newborn at xmas time.
Welcome to those who are new and conrats. You will soon catch up these threads mive pretty fast just join in where you can thats what I do.

I have my sisters wedding in two weeks and if I don't fit in my bridesmaids dress she will go ape!! Its pretty stretchy round the tum but is very fitted so im gonna look very pregnant. Just glad ive had my scan now so dont mind everyone at the wedding knowing instead of trying to hide it.
Should prob cut down on the crap food but cant healthy foods make me nauseous and i was so healthy normally! But i need to eat - chippy for dinner in a min :/ x

Holly1977 Fri 10-May-13 12:44:03

I've been thinking about the whole food thing. On reflection, I don't think I'm eating LOADS more than normal. It's more that when I'm hungry, I'm really fu**king hungry and have to eat immediately whereas before I could always put eating off and used to skip meals when I couldn't be arsed and stuff. I'm definitely eating better though, more fruit, veg, fruit juice, fewer takeaways etc. Still eating the same amount of chocolate as ever but that's been a life long thing! We're going to the pictures and for a Nando's tomorrow night. I am SO excited about this, about as excited as I used to get about going out on the piss or clubbing! Don't think I'll be having any booze at all as I know it'll just make me want a fag and another drink so probably best to just not bother.

inkymomma Fri 10-May-13 13:02:04

Madbanners. I think we've spoken before as we are due on the same day :-)

Dasie Fri 10-May-13 13:29:38

Morning ladies,

I have bought a doppler from Amazon and it arrived this morning. They blurb says it works from 12 weeks but I'm 10+3/4 and I found the babies heartbeat, it was so bloody lovely to hear and I've had to move myself away from the doppler or I could have laid there for hours listening to the heartbeat. Very very reassuruing!!

On the eating topic I cannot stop! I'm starving constantly!!! I've gone from eating a very strict no carb, no fat diet pre-pregnancy to eating everything in my path!!!

b0nker5Mum Fri 10-May-13 14:42:06

That's good to hear daisy, I was going to ask when you are likely to hear as I could only see from 12 weeks on the amazon ones... Maybe I shall invest in one now because I'm too impatient and now I know they work (I'm 10 weeks on sun/mon so if I ordered one now I'd be roughly at the same stage (which one did you go for??)

b0nker5Mum Fri 10-May-13 14:48:14

Sorry, dasie!

Dasie Fri 10-May-13 15:30:01

Bonkers I got the Sonoline B, it was around £50 but there are ones alot cheaper than that. I chose that model as I wanted the LCD display with the heartrate counter. I only got one small sachet of gel with it though but luckily had ordered an extra bottle of gel at the same time (anticipating a lot of use over the next few weeks!)

Dasie Fri 10-May-13 15:31:59

Oh and it took me ages to find the heartbeat so don't panic if you struggle. Seems I was aiming a little to low down to begin with!

5ammy Fri 10-May-13 15:46:50

I thought I heard my babies beat yesterday - very fast, certainly wasn't my heart beat, but it was higher up then I expected.

I tried again last night with the husband there, but he was so impatient, when I couldn't find it within 30 seconds he decided it wasn't going to be found! Typical

I'm really tired today, feel sick, fat, and cried because my husband is telling me we can't go on holiday anywhere long haul - he then decided that even Greece is too far when I'm pregnant and I shouldn't be on a plane for that long....

I wouldn't mind so much but I'm cabin crew - not like the bump has never been on a flight before.

Think it's my hormones!

Holly1977 Fri 10-May-13 18:54:17

Had my booking in appointment with the midwife this afternoon. She was absolutely lovely, I'm really pleased. She said she'll send the fax off today for the scan and I should get a letter through with a scan date next week. She said it'll happen between weeks 10 and 14 and that they do do the nuchal scan. I'll wait and see when the date is and then decide about getting a private scan.

She gave me a huge pack of stuff, a lot of which was just advertising crap which I've chucked! But lots of good stuff too.

But the big thing we talked about which I'm really excited about is the possibility of having a home birth! She said I'm low risk and you can have a water birth, gas and air and even pethadine at home. You get 2 midwives once you're in active labour apparently. She also said that there's a brand new midwife lead birthing centre at my local hospital (bradford) which sounds great and has 2 birthing pools. Initially I said no way to a home birth but after talking about it for a bit, it sounds great. I HATE hospitals. I'm not scared of them, I just hate them. I hate the noise, all the sick people (!) the lack of privacy, the crappy linen, everything! I've never actually had to stay in hospital and it's literally one of my biggest fears. I take my own pillows with me on the rare occasions I stay at a friend's house, I'm a bit of a princess when it comes to where I sleep. So the possibility of being able to give birth in the comfort of my own home is really wonderful. She said you can change your mind whenever you want and if anything goes wrong, they call an ambulance and the hospital is about 10 minutes away. She also said that labour can be a lot easier at home because you're less stressed. I think you have to buy the pool yourself but that's ok. Imagine all the stress you'd avoid by not having to go to hospital. Then you could all just be in your own bed together rather than some horrible bed on a ward other people there. I've always said I want to get home asap after the birth so giving birth at home means I don't have to go anywhere potentially! Am going to read up about it on the website she told me about and discuss with DF. Also going to talk to doctor friends and people who have had babies. My 2 best friends have had pretty horrendous experiences giving birth in hospital, for different reasons, but they both said one of the worst things was the other people (chavs particularly) screaming and shouting and swearing. Maybe that's just what you get for living in Yorkshire?! ;-)

Also, you're guaranteed to have a water birth if it's at home unlike in hospital where it's a bit of a lottery cos they've only got 2 pools and it's obviously pot luck when you go in. All my friends wanted a water birth but none of them got it.

So has anyone here had a home birth or know anyone who has? Thoughts?

b0nker5Mum Fri 10-May-13 19:11:48

Holly, my midwife said we should seriously consider a home birth as my previous labour (16 years ago!!!) was very quick (and a little easy but I think I have a high pain threshold!), I'm not so sure but will think about it.... Sort of burying my head about that far down the line...!

NomDeClavier Fri 10-May-13 19:19:23

Oh gosh yes to home birth if you can holly

If we were in the UK I'd be booking one like a shot. Some friends have had amazing experiences, as did a couple of ladies on my thread with DS.

I have a dating scan the 27th May. The woman on the phone practically had a heart attack when I said my last period was January but various biological impossibilities mean I can't have conceived before mid-March....

13loki Fri 10-May-13 19:20:14

I had an (accidental) home birth. My 2yo decided that a 4 day first stage of labour would be fun, followed by waking me up at 5:15 with contractions, and me telling hub to call hospital and say we were going in. While he talked to the midwife I had to say we weren't going in as I could feel the amniotic sac bulging between my legs. The fast response paramedic got there about 5:40, as she was crowning, and I had her at 5:45. The ambulance made it about 5:50 and the midwife got in about 6:15. It was quite nice as no one else got to hold her as the cord wasn't cut and the placenta wasn't delivered until the midwife got there.

Apart from the paramedic bring an empty canister of entonox, it was better than I expected. Needed to buy a new mattress topper, though. And I am still waiting for the paracetamol I asked hub to get me just before I told him we weren't going anywhere.

I'm actually getting a little bit stressy about it now, they don't do home births here (middle of Sweden) in the bigger cities there are some private midwives who do home birth, but not in my town, and we will be living 25 minutes from the hospital with no traffic, 35 minutes in peak hour. As if having a child in the wrong language isn't hard enough!

Holly1977 Fri 10-May-13 19:34:44

Thanks guys, that's lovely to hear. I'm starting to love the idea and the midwife seems really keen. I was thinking about protecting my bedding, carpets and sofa when I went for a swim earlier! Lots of old towels and a plastic sheet on the bed I reckon!

That does sound worrisome loki, hope it works out. Have you learned how to say "give me the fucking drugs" yet?!! ;-)

Just treated myself to fish and chips AND scraps. Been craving it for a week and finally relented. Soooooo amazing! Nearly peed my pants with excitement on the way home!

NomDeClavier Fri 10-May-13 19:44:35

13loki any recently trained MWs should have enough English to cope with emergency births - or at least someone on the service should. Most European courses have a compulsory English component now. My current cohort have to write a summary of their dissertation in English and pass the TOEIC. It's well worth establishing which of the MWs do have the necessary skills and getting the hospital to arrange the rotas around the time you're due with that in mind. Does your DP speak Swedish? I know even with fluent French I was incapable of forming sensible utterances but luckily DH was on hand to translate.

What are medical services in your area like? Would someone be able to get there if you have another quick birth?

My nearest home birthing midwife is an hour away sad I would so love a home birth sad

FluffyDucky Fri 10-May-13 20:01:33

There was a lovely baby grey dove just on our window, must have been the first time from the nest as mummy & daddy dove were flying about and trying to land. Baby dove flew off the window towards the bin shed opposite to its mum, aiming for the roof but didn't get the height and flew inside.
Husband doesn't understand why I'm upset, it might be stuck in there! I went to look but it's so full of shit (old mattress, massive old boxes) I can't even step inside. Worried it won't be able to get out and it might die sad

13loki Fri 10-May-13 20:02:46

DH is not one to rely on in Swedish at the best of times, let alone when he is stressed. When we went to hospital after DD was born, he had the home phone in his pocket! I can do a bit of Swedish, but I can't ask my Swedish teacher because my lessons are at work and we're not telling anyone yet.

I'll have a proper chat with the midwife on Monday, I know they all speak basic English.

readyornot2011 Fri 10-May-13 20:04:38

Holly, I had a water birth with my first. At hospital though, not at home. I have nothing to compare it too and it was still blooming painful but it all went very calmly and smoothly. As far as these things go it was a positive experience.

The main downside was the water turned into a total blood bath after she popped out (TMI) and I was desperate to get me and her out of it. So had to cut the cord and hand her over almost straight away and didn't get her back for 90 mins while they stitched me up. So didn't really get that 'yeah my baby's arrived' moment. Think I had more gas and air in those 90 mins than the entire birth, just trying to control the overwhelming urge to hold her.

Would do it again, particularly because I really felt the contractions in my lower back and it took all the weight off that area but I don't think it'll be an option in France.

Anyone who can't get enough baby talk at the moment, I recommend a blog called the-mothers.co.uk its fascinating to read other people's experiences

yogafan Fri 10-May-13 21:30:33

Oh my god, I love that website readyornot I've just spent half an hour absorbed by it, will def go back and read more later. Thanks for the recommendation!

yogafan Fri 10-May-13 21:31:57

I really wanted a home birth for DD but had to go into hospital for an induction in the end. I'm booked in with the home birth team this time round too, so fingers crossed!

NomDeClavier Fri 10-May-13 22:25:36

ready you may be able to labour in water but there are only 8 hospitals in the whole of France equipped for water births sad Sadly none are near me or you, but I'm hoping my local hospital is overbooked so I can go to the next nearest which has a bath in one of the delivery rooms even if they'd make you get out for the birth itself!

That said DS's birth was a pretty positive experience (thank you stroppy birth plan) and I'm working on brainwashing a whole new generation of midwives grin 5 are going for placements in England so I've told them they have to see a water birth, a home birth, delayed cord clamping and tons of other things.

But birth is waaaay ahead. There the whole yucky pregnant bit to get through first.

MadBannersAndCopPorn Sat 11-May-13 09:25:07

Hi inky! I'm due 17th, when are you?

I am really hoping to have a home birth this time too as I had my first at at midwifery unit as you describe Holly. It was lovely and couldn't fault it. No maternity ward, my own room, as many people as I wanted in, home 2 hours after the delivery, brilliant!

The only issue is that when giving birth to dd1 I have done something to my tail bone which has made it very tender to touch and uncomfortable to sit down. Of course GP has been fobbing me off with "That always happens after birth, give it six months..." etc etc

Anyone here had a successful no drugs birth with back problems/ pain?

inkymomma Sat 11-May-13 10:13:54

Also due the 17th madbanners going off my dates anyway. I'd love a waterbirth this time round. Last time I gave birth there was someone in the pool. I ended up having an emergency c section anyway. Hopefully can have VBAC this time round

LadyMedea Sat 11-May-13 13:21:09

Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap! Just been to the loo and a streak of bright blood on the toilet paper.....crap! 10+4 today and was beginning to think I was out of the woods. Also not helped by the fact that we are flying to Zakynthos tomorrow. Just bought the travel insurance (as I realised today it wasn't an autorenewal like DH said, doh!), will feel like a scammer if we have to cancel. If it stops or just stays like this with no pain I think we should go... guess if its going to happen its going to happen at this point. crap, crap, crap.

yogafan Sat 11-May-13 16:34:41

Oh no lady - can you go in for a reassurance scan before you go on hols? Thinking of you, good luck xxxxx

LittleBells Sat 11-May-13 17:17:01

Hope everything's ok Lady - Fingers crossed it's just nothing and doesn't appear again x

Ganetgob Sat 11-May-13 17:22:38

I'm sorry too lady. I agree with yoga - could you phone midwife perhaps?

I could do with some advice. I'm 8+5 and for the last few days have felt very dizzy and lightheaded. This is those kind of blackouts when I stand ( doesn't matter how slowly I get up) and a constant dizziness. (Although the room isn't spinning) It has got progressively worse this week but became really bad yesterday at work. I got home last night and went straight to bed, sleeping on and off all evening and night. It was no better this morning and is still the same now. I phoned my mum to ask her what she thought and she suggested phoning nhs direct. Their advice? Don't do anything which makes me feel dizzy! Great!

The only time it stops is when I'm chewing - It comes back between mouthfuls. It has got to the point that I'm struggling to do anything but lie in a dark room.

I'm just wondering if anyone is going through anything similar, or if anyone has any advice for me. I would really appreciate it.

Sorry for long post smile

LadyMedea Sat 11-May-13 18:31:06

No more bleeding so far. Don't feel any better about it but if nothing else happens before tomorrow morning I guess we go on hols. I haven't rung anyone, not sure how weekends work anyway. Just trying not to worry and crossing fingers and toes.

5ammy Sat 11-May-13 19:14:55

I have fingers crossed lady.

Ganet - could you have low BP? Have you tried increasing your fluid intake and possible sodium?

FluffyDucky Sat 11-May-13 19:35:39

Ganet it could be blood flow, when you are lying down, have your feet elevated (preferably above your heart) and feet up when sitting down. It could also be low iron, that can make you light headed and short of breath.

Got my NHS maternity exemption through today, dentist here I come!!

Does anyone else find their feet swell? It could be because I stand all day but I get to about 4 and they feel like they are squeezing in my shoes

Ganetgob Sat 11-May-13 19:45:25

Thanks guys, I'll try those. Much appreciated! smile

violetbean Sat 11-May-13 19:51:37

Readyornot, great website, thanks for recommending!

Lady, keeping fingers crossed for you xx

Ganet, definitely get it checked out, sounds like low iron or another mineral deficiency? Or low BP as someone suggested.

Hope everyone well. I'm hoping for a midwife-led centre birth. Seeing midwife on Tue so will see what she says.

Nauseous today, all day. Bleurgh.

froubylou Sat 11-May-13 20:08:27

Lady thinking of you. Hope its just that. And hope you can enjoy your hols.

Ganet get your bp checked hun. Could be too low or too high and make sure you are eating enough.

Im eating plenty enough lol. Havent stopped eating for 2 days lol.

mumoftwoboysS Sat 11-May-13 21:20:27

Does anyone know if you get to listen to the baby's heartbeat at the first mw appointment? I've got mine in 2 weeks - I'll be 10 weeks then. I can't remember with previous pregnancies if you do.

For some reason I'm starting to freak out about mmc- I read something about people's experiences -probably shouldn't have and now I'm worried (for no reason other than I read too much and my brain is working overtime!) It just seems really scary that you can still feel pregnant but the baby might have died. It's not quite the same as a mc where you feel the pain and see the blood. I don't think I was even aware of mmc in my previous pregnancies so was blissfully unaware.

(and really sorry to anyone who's been through either, I don't mean to upset anyone, just trying to get my head round it)

FluffyDucky Sat 11-May-13 21:48:27

I was told by my midwife we will listen to the heartbeat at the 16 wk appt.
Whats mmc?

PistachioTruffle Sat 11-May-13 21:48:55

mum, you could ask but i think they generally don't - some will try and listen at around 16 weeks but others won't even then. I know what you mean about the mmc worry though, Although everything was fine at the early scan and I felt reassured, that has now worn off and I'm really worried again. Especially as I've been feeling so well, my symptoms seem to have tailed off. I have had some slight twinges in my lower abdomen this afternoon though confused

Hope all is well lady xx

NomDeClavier Sat 11-May-13 21:50:36

Usually MWs won't try to listen until at least 16wks. I don't think it's recommended until 20wks because it just worried you if they can't pick it up and at this stage it's pretty difficult to track even for someone with training and experience.

Lady keeping fingers crossed for you. At this stage there's nothing you can do really sad but hopefully your travel insurance covers medical treatment if you need it (which I'm obviously hoping you won't)! Anyone planning to travel abroad you need to check that your policy covers pregnancy related conditions and after 24 weeks make sure or would cover a baby born prematurely as well.

Gannet could it be low blood sugar? Dehydration? Or as others have mentioned low BP or a vitamin/mineral deficiency?

DH has gone to a housewarming tonight. I was supposed to go but I'm just tooooooo tired. Plus our moving date has been pushed forwards so we have less than a month to organise (and get rid of lots of crap). Thankfully the current tenant in the new place is moving out next week so it's available if we need it. Our current landlords are being somewhat challenging to deal with...

NomDeClavier Sat 11-May-13 21:52:12

Mmc - missed miscarriage. It's where the baby has stopped developing but your body doesn't recognise it and maintains the pregnancy.

5ammy Sat 11-May-13 21:52:42

Hi mumof2,

I haven't seen a midwife yet, I'm 9 weeks ish and bought a doppler. Husband and I got babies heartbeat earlier today. Maybe its worth investing? Husband has been grinning like a Cheshire Cat since! But we haven't told anyone about baby yet so he can't tell anyone he heard it!

From what I remember the first midwife appointment she says 'hi' takes personal details and that's it! But last baby I had is now 7!


violetbean Sat 11-May-13 23:09:02

Hi mumof2,

I have had a lot of anxieties about mmc since hearing about a close friend's experience of it and reading a lot online. I've been feeling quite low since around 2 weeks ago when pregnancy symptoms started easing up. Today is the first day I've felt nauseous again but I am still terrified in case it's my body tricking me.

The only things that keep me going are:

1. Being busy at work (but am part-time so not a great help the rest of the week!)
2. Counting down the days until my scan
3. Knowing there's nothing I can do to avoid a mmc except try my best to avoid toxoplasmosis (eg by avoiding cat poo!) and that if it happens, it's just fate and completely out of my control.
4. Thinking about how my friends and family might react if I do mmc and hoping that they would be kind and let me grieve for a while.
5. Reminding myself that I could grow and develop through such experiences and maybe could become a support to others going through a loss.

Hope this doesn't belittle anyone's experiences. I have been having bereavement counselling for a year and a half due to the sudden death of my best friend and have found it helpful to talk to my counsellor about these anxieties and fears too.

I have considered buying a doppler but I think it would make me even more anxious if I had one and couldn't find a heartbeat, and I'd quickly become addicted if I did find one and spend all day checking it!

Hand-holding all who feel similarly. We'll get through this, with each other's support.

musiceverywhere Sat 11-May-13 23:36:57

Hi all,

violetbean that was a lovely post. Think we're all hand holding at the moment.
ladymedea hope all stays settled and you have a lovely holiday. we're supposed to be going away at 13 weeks but need to wait and see what consultant says. Fingers crossed for you.
After checking the post for a week I found my appointment letter today buried in a pile of papers on floor. It was sent 2 weeks ago, the next working day after my scan which is a good sign that they're organised! Same can't be said for my house! is all DH fault
Appointment is just before 12 weeks. It says I need to take a wee sample with me, but also try and have full-ish bladder for scan... confused

13loki Sun 12-May-13 06:14:15

Lady fingers crossed for you.

I have my booking in visit with the midwife tomorrow, and then I don't see her until 25 weeks! I do have 2 scans in between though. I've just read I should take a urine sample, but I don't have a proper pot for it, so I think I'll just have to do it there.

mumoftwoboysS Sun 12-May-13 09:21:38

thanks violetbean thats a very calm and rational way to deal with your anxieties- the counselling is obviously useful for such thought processes! Thanks for the food for thought - you're right when you say there's nothing you can do if it did happen anyway. I guess my fear is finding out baby died and I didn't know till a month later or something...

Hence why I'm nervous about telling people (only told close family and 2 friends)

I like the idea of a doppler- I'd buy one right now if I thought DH would think the same way- but I know he'd say it's a waste of money (he's very practcally minded!) as thats what going for appointments is for and also since I don't work I have to be careful with money. I think it's a great idea if you can justify the cost and it eases anxiety. I can see that it would be addictive and also worrying if you couldn't find the hb!

As I don't work I find myself thinking about this stuff a lot....have the kids to keep me busy but there are still times when I obsess over it a bit. Bring on the 12 wk scan!!

mumoftwoboysS Sun 12-May-13 09:37:26

on a lighter note, those of you who dye your hair regularly, are you holding out till after 1st trimester?

I wanted to but I've got a month to go and I'm starting to look like a witch with all these grey hairs hmm I use the home dye stuff and I don't know if it's worse than the salon stuff- I've heard semi-permanent can be safer but it probably won't even last a few weeks with my brown hair....

any opinions on this? I know it's a bit like the nail varnish debate- some people avoid it, some think the risk is pretty low and just carry on as usual...

Holly1977 Sun 12-May-13 10:17:38

Mumoftwoboys, I had my hair dyed at the hairdressers at about 5/6 weeks, really can't see why this would be a problem. I also had a tattoo done the same day. The only potential problem with that is shock if it's very painful but it's my 5th and I knew exactly what I was letting myself in for, no problems at all! Your body is exposed to all kinds of chemicals and pollutants every day and is capable of protecting you and bean from them. There's so many things we definitely need to avoid I don't see much value in adding even more stuff like nail varnish and hair dye to the list, neither of which enter your blood stream.

Re mc and mmc, I guess it's an anxious time for all of us until we get to the magical 12 weeks mark. And even then there's no guarantees, ever really. So I'm just trying not to dwell on it basically. If anything does happen, it will be out of my control and will almost certainly be because there's an abnormality of some kind.And worrying about it serves no purpose other than stressing me out so I'm just pushing any negative thoughts like that away. But I feel strongly that it is going to be ok, my boobs are permanently sore, my jeans don't fit and my bowels are different so they're my symptoms! Statistically we'll probably be ok and with every passing day the chances get better. I have told loads of people which I may come to regret if anything does happen. There again I'm a very open person and the people I've told, I'd probably tell them if I had a mc anyway. I imagine I would be utterly devastated, would want people's support, would need time off work and it's not something to be ashamed of or hide. And I also imagine that telling people and what they thought would be the least of my worries at that point. I'm tempted to get a doppler but potentially I think that way madness lies. If you can't find the heartbeat, you're going to freak out and I could just see myself doing it ALL the time. I'm going to wait and see when my scan date is next week then decide about getting a private one.

Have pretty much decided to have a home water birth. The more I think about it, it's a no brainer really. My doctor friend isn't keen, neither is DF. But I expected that reaction from both of them tbh. And since it's me that'll be going through it and not them, it's not up to them is it?!!

FluffyDucky Sun 12-May-13 10:36:19

Ahh, I just slept for 12 hours. Bliss, I actually have some energy! (for the moment..)

ccsays Sun 12-May-13 12:10:40

Hi all, been lurking throughout this thread, but just wanted to say hello. I had my first scan a week and a bit ago and they put me at 6 + 1, though I was sure I'd be 7. Have any of you with kids already ever had a dating scan that turned out to be out a bit later on? We saw it's wee heartbeat (just a few pixel flickers) so that's a good sign, right? Been worried sick with nerves confused

Also, found out that someone at my work (I'm a support worker for adults with learning disabilities) has taken it upon themselves to tell service users I'm pregnant, which I'm seriously pissed off about angry

2Labradors Sun 12-May-13 12:45:21

violet that was a really good post. My 12 week scan is a week on Thursday now. When I got the date it was over 3 weeks away and I felt like the day would never be here but time does actually keep going, I find it so hard to keep rational.

mumof I had my foil highlights done on Friday evening. I had been putting it off due to fear of risk but the roots were getting a bit silly, the previous time had been when I didn't know I was pregnant but I was. I discussed it with my hairdresser and she reassured me. Also, with foils the dye doesn't touch the scalp. I feel so much better after having it done. She told me that pregnant ladies come into the salon for all sorts of dyes all the time.

holly I had been thinking about getting a Doppler and even had a snoop on eBay. Then, when I was sitting outside the midwives office waiting to be called for my booking-in appointment I saw a poster outside saying midwives advise you don't purchase your own Doppler and that if you have concerns you should contact the midwife and when further along monitor the kicks. I haven't bought one but am still debating it as my current concerns are normal I think. I don't have pain and signs of bleeding has stopped but I'm concerned there will be no baby at my scan. But then if I couldn't find the heartbeat with the Doppler it would add to my worries. Maybe I should just hold out now until the scan.

fluffy ooo bliss.

Welcome ccsays

yogafan Sun 12-May-13 13:25:55

Welcome ccsays and thanks violet and others for such thoughtful and supportive posts. I find them really helpful - I'd really like to relax and enjoy this pregnancy as much as possible and the handholding really helps!

yogafan Sun 12-May-13 13:28:39

ccsays I can't believe your colleague has been telling service users! Outrageous! Guess there's nothing you can do now it's done... What were they thinking?!

FluffyDucky Sun 12-May-13 14:01:49

Does anyone know if a massage is ok? I will speak to get when I book it, but I read it can make you feel sick (I've had no morning sickness) I've got a few days off next week, going to ready myself to a pedicure too. Shoulders feel tight &i love a good massage!

Olive2012 Sun 12-May-13 15:05:35

Hi fluffy, I think you do need to tell them you are pregnant before you go and I also think some places do special pregnancy massages so perhaps you can opt for that?

Thanks for the posts re mmc. It's good to know others feel the same. Am also worried but trying to stay positive and calm and focus on all the exciting times ahead (although that's easier at some times than others!) we decided to do the harmony tests so am going for a viability scan in a couple of weeks and will be worried until then I think. It also hasn't helped that my NHS appointments are quite late - 11 weeks 5 days for my MW appointment which seemed late to me but apparently is normal in my area (SW London).

Holly1977 Sun 12-May-13 17:09:07

I think massages are fine as long as you're comfortable on your front. And I suppose later on you could sit in one of those forward facing chair things. I saw my osteopath about 2 weeks ago and he said it's fine to continue going as long as I can lie comfortably on my front and if not you can work round it and lie on your side etc. He said other than being a bit more cautious with the manipulations, no problem at all. Since osteo (mine anyway) is mostly massage, I imagine that applies too. Tell the therapist you're pregnant though.

PistachioTruffle Sun 12-May-13 17:36:16

A massage sounds wonderful Ducky! A friend recently told me that Clarins do pregnancy treatments, so I might treat myself to one of those after i've got through the next few manic weeks grin

Dasie Sun 12-May-13 18:12:35

Mum I've dyed my hair twice now since falling pregnant. The advice is generally that hair dye is ok in pregnancy. I just make sure it's washed off in the shortest possible time!

I've been this morning for my private scan and my Harmony blood test. It was sooooo lovely seeing my little bean 'in the flesh' so to speak. They have put my EDD 2 days earlier as well, at 10 + 6, so every little helps grin

Gooseysgirl Sun 12-May-13 22:09:50

CCsays.. re dating of scan, yes that happened me on my first pregnancy but I was fully expecting it as I had been charting and was sure I had ovulated very late. That could be what has happened to you, but there's also probably a +- few days margin of error with scans anyway so try not to worry!

MildredH Mon 13-May-13 00:39:20

Hi all,

Sorry to have gone to radio silence- been in deepest Cornwall with no hope of t'Internet on phone!

Thanks again for the support last week.. Fortunately the spotting settled the same day. Still felt worried though. Spoke to GP who refused referral to epu & whose solution was to come in Monday for her to listen for fetal heart with Doppler. I know some people have joy this early but I just thought I'd end up super anxious if she couldn't find it! So we trotted back to private scan place. Second time in 5 days! They must make all their money from people like us!

Anyway- all still well in there. Mini-Mildred waving and doing somersaults.. Was fab to see. Ah to be a squillionaire and have scans whenever you fancy envy.

Hope all well with you all.. Lady- sorry to hear about your scare. I hope you've got off on your hols ok and have a lovely relaxing time.

Back to work tomo after a week annual leave sad.

FluffyDucky Mon 13-May-13 07:49:57

Mildred so glad everything is ok, what a relief!
Well for the first time in the pregnancy I'm phoning into work sick. I feel dizzy & woozy when I get up, feel spaced out. Not much fun, had to abandon buttering my toast to lie down earlier! I felt so good when I first got up angry

mumoftwoboysS Mon 13-May-13 09:32:02

fluffyducky I had a massage a few weeks ago- spoke to the massage therapist (she's more of a massage therapist/sports massage person rather than one of those in a beauty salon) as I wasn't sure about massages in 1st tri and she said the reason a lot of places say they won't massage pregnant women is to avoid legal action if someone was to miscarry and blame the massage. She said she's done her research and there is no research that says it's dangerous though if you're worried keep it shorter. I had a voucher for an hour and only used 1/2 just for my own peace of mind. And it was LOVELY so go do it! (going to claim the other half soon!)

like the others said- just make sure you tell them you're preggers as some salons use various aromatherapy oils and some aren't suitable during pregnancy.

I had massages throughout my previous pregnancies and just used that special chair- so good when you have backache. She even said she had one client that used to lie on her massive bump as she felt comfortable!! I couldn't do it as soon as I had any form of bump, felt I was squashing the little bean...

Glad all is ok Mildred.

Dasie I'm going to go get some hair dye!! Its bad enough that my face is one big spot fest, I can't cope with awful hair too!! As they say, a happy mum means a happy baby grin

MildredH Mon 13-May-13 19:52:36

Thanks girls.. Fluffy this may be stating the complete obvious but are you drinking enough? Sounds a bit like your BP maybe on the low side.. I felt shocking all weekend even vomiting for the first time ( had eaten half a block of Brie!) only really started feeling better when I drank plenty. I know it's awful for me but full fat coke is my friend at the moment. Limited to one, two max a day and have cut coffee but its a lift, a little bit of sugar and fluid all in one. Wouldn't have touched it pre-pregnancy!!

FluffyDucky Mon 13-May-13 20:01:14

Mildred I think so. today I haven't felt like eating or drinking much. Felt better about 6 but feeling woozy again. I think my iron is low as I can feel my heart fluttering (I've been anemic/had low iron before) but I'm hoping its just a funny day. It's weird it feels like a cloud of woozyiness comes over me.
I have been so bored today, I hope maternity leave (before little one comes along) isn't going to be like this, I'll be climbing the walls.

kyz1981 Tue 14-May-13 07:54:22

Fluffy - Have you tried Spartone - its a liquid Iron that is so much better on the body then tablets, you can mix it with orange juice to improve the impact too, it was a life saver both in 1st & 2nd Pg, and especially important after birth as I found my self low on iron both times.

Mildred - I am also on the full fat coke- but not only that I am eating things like fast food that I would never of touched before Pg - yet all my lovely fruit and green veg just makes me sick.

Starting to have the odd day of feeling better so hoping it continues.

QueenofWhispers Tue 14-May-13 08:21:11

I'm on full fat sprite. It's amazing.

I've been soo very ill for the past few days. Harmony Bloods today at 4:30. I think theres a viability scan involved...

QueenofWhispers Tue 14-May-13 08:22:57

oh, and for anyone in the greater london area

I have an amazing massage lady who comes to your home; her hands are amazing. Let me know if you want/need her number. She specialises in antenatal massages. I've been using her since 2007.

lisbapalea Tue 14-May-13 08:24:04

Hi all,
Haven't posted much but have been lurking! Hope everyone's doing ok this week?
I'm still not feeling like it's quite real although various symptoms tell me it is! Queasiness has kicked in properly now and I have some strange food preferences. I can't get enough apples (the sourer the better) and raspberries, but have gone off coffee. Also desperate for steak so I am wondering if I am low in iron as I am still crazy tired. Might look into the spatone but am a bit nervous of,the constipation side effects!

It was my birthday yesterday and I decided that a birthday in the first trimester sucks! Dh took me to a posh restaurant and hotel on Friday night - I got a wave of nausea during my main course so just felt rough, and then was so knackered I really just fancied my own bed! I felt so sorry for Dh who'd planned it all before I was pg, but it ended up being wasted on me! Took yesterday off work and spent it with my mum which I do every year but spent most of the day feeling sick!

I still haven't had a mw appointment but popped into my GPs last Friday to chase up and ended up speaking to a midwife there and then! Apparently my booking in appt is likely to be 25th May when I'm around 10wks with the scan approx 2 wks later.

Just found out that the maternity unit of the hospital I'll be using has just had a massive revamp and makeover so I'm quite excited to see it! Love the idea of a home birth in lots of ways but it's out of the question for me as DD was a c-section (she was breech, which we discovered very late on so turning wasn't possible which meant the birth plan went in the bin and it was a very calm and collected elective c-s, which was very different from the unpredictable natural birth that I'd been hoping for). I keep hearing lots of differing opinions over whether to go for elcs again, or a vbac. Pro's and cons for both, so I am hoping I get a nice midwife to help me make the right decision!

Sorry this is so long - I got very rambly there!

hope everyone else is doing Ok and managing to keep sickness and anxiety at bay as much as possible.

violetbean Tue 14-May-13 09:23:22

Fluffy, look after yourself, doesn't seem good to be feeling so dizzy.

Lisba, happy birthday for yesterday! Sorry about the nausea, that sucks.

Midwife appt this afternoon, looking forward to meeting her. smile Slightly concerned that she may not be able to take bloods. Have the thinnest veins ever and even the blood donation service couldn't get any out of me...! (told me to bugger off and not come back) hmm Wish the rest of me was that thin, haha. grin Ahh well, just have to wait and see...